Pardon My Take - Jay Cutler, Suns In 4 Guy, Kevin Durant Legacy Game, And The Boy Will Compton FAQ's

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

Kevin Durant's legacy has finally been cemented (for now). A great Game 5 recapped and some other NBA talk (2:11 - 25:15). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Bryson vs Brooks and MLB fucked up again (25:15 - 42:57). Jay Cutler joins the show to talk Father's Day, his favorite throw ever, his least favorite interception, being used in the wildcat and tons more (42:57 - 86:46). Suns in 4 guy joins the show to talk about his fight, the Suns, and new t-shirts we have with him in the Barstool Sports Store (86:46 - 99:13). We finish with the boy Will Compton who joins the show to do some FAQ's and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Kevin Durant's legacy as a very good basketball player cemented. That's big of you, but what happens big cat if they lose the next two games? At that point, this could be a legacy series. Yeah, so that's the beauty of the legacy game. It just keeps going. So it's a rollover minute. We got legacy games next game. I think this is an indictment of the Gen Z culture.

Everything is in 15 second sound bites. You rush to judge everything. This was never a legacy game. This has always been a legacy series going up against Giannis. I would say it's a legacy playoffs. It's a legacy year for KD because he's coming back from an injury. We were told at the start of the season, big cat, we were told on last week's part of my take by ourselves that the Nets would not lose another playoff.

So really, this is a legacy year for him. It's really, it's championship or bust. I actually think now that I'm saying it out loud, I think it is a legacy decade because think about it. The first decade in the pros, he came in before 2010, but that 2010 to 2020 or 2019, however you do decades, I don't know how to do decades. That was him cementing himself as, okay, you're a top 50 player of all time. Now, you know, top 25 player of all time.

Now this decade, sky's the limit. This is where his legacy is made and it started tonight. My favorite fun thing to do with being dishonest with stats is to play the decade game, which is to say like now Kevin Durant has scored 30 points in a game in three separate decades. Yes. And it makes it sound like he's 60 years old. Yes. I like that.

It's just like 11 or 12 years. He's probably the greatest player. If you look at the totality of it, he probably averages out to be the best player in three separate decades. Yeah. In certain statistical categories. But yeah. Shout out KD.

I have a quote for you. Okay. You ready for this? You can tell me who wrote this. If you're waiting for the KD game, it ain't happening. Durant has never imposed his will ever. LeBron, Steph and Russ can impose their will on a team. There's also nothing quotes Brooklyn about his game.

I'm going to go with Russell Westbrook. Oh, fuck. Yeah. He's sick. Yeah. Nothing. What's Brooklyn? Nothing Brooklyn.

Nothing Brooklyn. What is a Brooklyn? Who's got who do you think is the most Brooklyn NBA player? I would actually say it's probably like a hipster like Joe West. Oh, man. This is a very Brooklyn game on Joe West. I listen. All I'm going to say is thank God Joe West is a recurring or Joe Harris is a goal.

You just said Joe. Joe West. Joe Harris is a recurring guest. Otherwise I'd be forced to say he forgot how to shoot a basketball. Yeah. Joe Harris tonight. He's playing like Joe West. He absorbed James Harden's game seven energy tonight.

This was it's you know what instead of talking about James Harden who also had a legacy game tonight too. He's stunk because I hope he's injured because he had five points. He proved that he could go out there and play while he was injured. Yeah. Joe Harris. We need to ask is Joe Harris healthy. Yeah.

Because this was a decidedly on Joe Harris like performance. I actually think Harden did like him being out there actually helped because he did have a bunch of assists and he played well like defensively when they needed him to. He obviously can't shoot right now like he had no legs in his shot. I just I just would like to pretend that he's fully healthy so that because there's nothing more fun than when James Harden no shows a playoff game. So let's just you know in 10 years we can look back and be like wait he went one for 10 and 0 for eight from three point.

What a bum. We'll totally forget the context of this game entirely. Very hurt. In fact he had like a pulled hamstring and you could actually see the ball. The lack of explosiveness when he was trying to jump into fouls. He didn't have the same like lateral movement where he could like jump four feet to the side hit somebody and then shoot a shot. It actually surprisingly affected his game that way but he wasn't comfortable is missing

everything short. It was also legacy wise a Jeff Green game because this Jeff Green cemented his legacy as being a guy that always shows up every single year in the playoffs for a different team and has one good game seven for eight from three. He was awesome. Number three he missed was he was just too open which can happen. He started seven for seven from three but let's talk about Durant real quick because the Durant three so Durant ends up with forty nine seventeen and ten.

If you don't think that that is just an insane like put the team on my back. They need every point every rebound every assist for me. It was incredible and that that shot that three that he made to basically win the game and that look he gave where he was like oh I am so fucking good at basketball. That has to be an all time feeling like you could see it in his face. He said visibly oh I am so fucking good at basketball. Was that on the play where James Harden took the shot clock down to like two seconds and then passed to Durant James Harden.

He was just James Harden when he saw he saw the shot clock and he did the mental math and said he's like I think my hamstring is twenty five seconds away from feeling OK. Let's see if I can get in shape by the end of this one possession. It didn't happen. Put Durant in the shitter with a bad pass and then Durant kind of off balance hit it and it's like there's nothing that you can do at that point unless maybe you're Mike Buddon holds your but bud bud in just say Buds Michael but sorry he goes by Michael Buds coach Buds who got thoroughly out coached by whoever happens to be coaching the Nets

tonight. I don't know if it's Steve Nash or not but at some point when Kevin Durant is going off you have to try something different. I don't know if you if you try something that you think is going to work or not but nothing is going to work any less than what you've been doing for the entire game. I think CJ said CJ McCall did he say that like put put John is on him for a second. See what happens. Yeah I mean it's when he's like that though he I mean you you know it Kevin Durant when

he's on fire and he wants to do what he did tonight. He basically has like an unstoppable game because he's so fucking tall. He elevates above everyone he can get his shot off at any point like it's just it was a joy to watch. Imagine how tall he'd be if he could grow hair. Yeah another inch and a half or if he just was honest about or if he stood up straight. Yeah had better posture. Yeah right.

Slim reapers back. We need to bring the slim reapers. I was actually going to say I think tonight we I only saw easy money sniper references. I have not seen a servant reference. I think the servants dead. Serving is dead. They killed the slim reapers back. That was a slimmer.

Durantula Durantula I'm cool with that. It did feel though. I mean like the Nets needed to win this game. I know that sounds crazy because it's now they're up three two but when they came all the way back and they were up with like three or four minutes left by a point or two it felt like all right the Nets win this game. It's most likely going seven because I don't know I mean maybe Durant can do this again in game six on the road.

I guess well that's the thing it's like it took this type of performance to win this game and they they sucked in the first quarter. They were really really bad and for a lot of the first half so I don't know. Well yeah magic Johnson will point out to you that games three and five. I think he's the first person I ever heard say that are the most important games in a seven game series and they are up three to two so they have a couple chances to close it out like I'm not as a Nets fan long time who definitely did not call them frauds tonight several times.

So I think I am concerned. I'm concerned about the Nets ability to close it out. I feel bad for Bruce Brown where Bruce Brown podcast he got pulled pretty quickly in the in the start of the game. I was like oh shit he can't. We need someone else and Jeff Green saved him and I you know if you're Milwaukee obviously this game was you should have won this game like you should have found a way to win this game especially when you were up and you felt like you could we said it out loud.

The Nets were down I think 20 points at some point in the second quarter and I was like if they can be down 10 halfway through the third they will like have a very legitimate shot at winning this game and they that's exactly what they did. They like chipped away chipped away chipped away and it was right there in the third quarter and then Kevin Durant was able to do what he does and it's just awesome it was just an awesome game. I we we stay here late and sometimes it sucks. Tonight was one of those nights where it was awesome because it was like this game was

fully worth it. That was great theater and Kevin Durant's legacy. It was life affirming basketball. We need to give a little bit of credit to maybe an unheralded hero on the Nets and that's the whammy guy underneath the basket. The whammy guy the old guy yeah who put the whammy on anyone that was shooting a foul shot and if the kids out there don't know what the whammy is the whammy is it's a force you just you hold your hands out and then you start wiggling your fingers you put a curse

on the other guy. The whammy is undefeated especially if it's an old person doing it. Yeah. Yeah I think by the way Yanis who he wasn't like bad tonight he had 34 and he shot well and you know like I do think the Bucks are going to win the game six I think it's going to go seven. I think Yanis at this point should try free throws one handed or go fast pitch the minute he gets the ball just throw it up there.

So we were timing him and at towards the end of the game I think he got to the line three times and two of those three times he was over the 10 second limit one of the times was eleven and a half what do you think the grace period is because you can't blow the whistle as they're in the act of shooting right although I guess no they did that. They did that to him. You should be able to because it's it's 10 second rule it's not a 10.7 second and if Giannis is shooting the ball then you call the violation it's a 10 second rule. Right.

He's a serial violator of the 10 second rule. I'm going to be I'm going to be using stopwatch every time he's on the line I'm just going to keep stats how often does he cheat at the foul line. I like it. Other games let's talk about him real quick. Kauai is incredible Paul George playoff he has shown up that series goes to 2 2. Did you see that Kauai dunk. Yeah I was insane.

Kauai's I like I think it's because he never feels like he's moving super fast. We talked about that I think last week but his like his arms are so long and his hands are so big he was so far from the hoop when he dunked that but he just can reach over everyone. Yeah. That dunk was it's surprising when you see Kauai do it because he doesn't show any motion ever. So anytime he acts with aggression on a basketball court you're like holy shit where that come

from. It was violent but it was sweet. It was like his violent poetry but it wasn't like the cool factor of that dunk was when you usually see a poster like a big dunk it's someone you know it's a nice pass and a guy getting an open look and then a help defender moving over you know what I mean like and it's a wind up and it's it's it's a nice like little sprint head start Kauai just he just fucking yammed on that guy. You know what the difference is between a good no wasn't go bare between a good dunk

and a great dunk differences and this is why LeBron James is not a great dunker in my opinion. You have to hang on to the rim for just like a split second you got to make the rim move you have to make it seem like the rim might come off. Yeah and so when when LeBron does his like you know he'll go he'll do like the rocking the cradle and then go over his head do like a 180 dunk and it yeah sure I guess in theory it's something I couldn't do maybe if I practice for a while I could but he doesn't even like grab the rim at all he just like he barely touches it sometimes he acts like the rim

is like a hot oven rack he just like taps and pulls his hand away Kauai grabbed it and pulled it down for a second it's and that makes all the difference. It's the snapback sound the spray is incredible yeah what did you think Jake your guy your guy's dad iron eagle what what was the one I'm gonna pull up the dunk I'll tell you why like Kenny Albert is a Kauai like it was amazing a Kauai like yeah I didn't mind it honestly Kauai like it's amazing okay you think that was amazing yeah okay great no I wanted your take on it yeah the only major Kauai like the only problem I had with that dunk is it happened in the flow of play and there was another whistle for about two minutes of game time after that

and I kept waiting to see the replay of it because I was like I think I just saw one of the best dunks of all time but I can't be sure and it took so long to get the replay there should be a time out that the television overlord should be able to like buzz one of the referees and force them to make a bullshit call or like a media timeout yeah it should be a highlight timeout a Kauai like timeout in case anything like that happens because I didn't think imagine imagine Big Cat would have something even crazier than that had happened right after that dunk would have been lost to the ages yeah well Kauai like sorry Kauai like that was ah man it was awesome all right other series I like I love watching Joel and bead play I don't like that Joel and bead

um feels like he's like always gonna die on the court because he's out of gas that was tough and I know he's injured as well but that felt like a very winnable game for the Sixers feels a bit of a flop artist too so there's an element of like he just heard a lot but he also yeah he he has a floor routine he falls down the Olympics he's got a he's got a nice floor routine but that that that felt like a very winnable game and I think the Sixers will kill them tonight which I know Phil I felt I think I know what you've been going through Philadelphia Twitter I felt I feared for my life it's crazy all because I said they were very very good and then they all said I jinxed so but I do think they're gonna win tonight and but that one

felt god forbid if you say anything around Philadelphia they're gonna come at you it's gonna be confetti the crazy sixes are good these things are considered like sins I actually like like I like Joe Embiid when he's on and not out of breath and going over 12 and he was your star player and he missed a wide open layup at the end of the game you would be furious yeah no the 0 for 12 is a tough thing to come back from the second it was uh eerily reminiscent of the Patrick Ewing missed layup that's a buzzer yeah it's just I mean let's see what happens tonight maybe he caught his breath I think the problem with Joel Embiid is and if he's in making the Acero Conference finals he's gonna be dead he's like he has he has no embarrassed no shot of making

it to the finals he's just so freakishly big and athletic that there's something wrong with him and so the human body was not meant to do the things that he's able to do it's like in Jurassic Park we you were so preoccupied with thinking if you could you didn't stop to think whether or not you should and with Joel Embiid he's able to do these crazy things but he's also how tall is he's like seven two seven he's massive seven three he's a big dude and he moves seven one he moves so incredibly well and he can jump so well but like the human body at some point it's just gonna be like dude it's tired chill out like sit down play some video games for a while yeah and then Ben Simmons no one's really talking about the fact that he also choked at the line again

he's well yeah he's a pimp candidate yeah he is a guy that could absolutely deal with maybe learning the underhanded foul shot yeah did you think Giannis started to go back to the box do you think he's gonna change his routine this summer he has to he has to go fast has to has to go fast like the last thing you want to do and I do think that for Simmons and Giannis obviously they're not great shooters regardless but I do think it's a lot mental and they just have to change something that they do some routine that they do to change up the mental aspect of it like if I were Giannis the minute I got past the ball I just fucking shoot it right away well what about this what's the rule in terms of foul shot you're not allowed to step your foot can't land on the line or you know

you can step back no I'm saying like when when they're calling a violation in front of you oh it's where if your foot lands before the ball goes into the hoop or hits the backboard or the rim or whatever right no I think you could if you step back away from the line you can do it as a jump shot so that's what I'm saying I like you could in theory have him take a couple steps back sprint towards the basket oh and dunk it run almost dunk it I don't know if you're allowed to touch the rim probably not never been an issue I would imagine in the past that might be a lead can you jump lay the ball in and if it goes into the basket before you land I don't think so I think that you can because it's when the foot lands I don't think you can go past the line though

with the ball in your hand Jake can you look that up I mean there's no what yeah in the air in the air the ball would be in your hand across the line do you think you're the first person to think but if you have really long arms and you just stand but flat footed and lean over I'm sure that when they're doing the pimp grip the underhanded shot why would you say jump you're saying jump in the air yeah but he's then holding the ball over the line but I think it's only if your feet touch the ground I think you have to be behind the line when you release the ball I think so I'm just making that up but that sounds right that sounds that does sound right so you can't release the ball in front of the line also Trey young needs a shout out because he was terrible shooting

and he made up for it by being incredible with the sis so no I mean it was it was like that's that's the mark of a really good player when they you know when they don't have their a game shooting the ball and they find another way to basically take over the game and that's kind of what he did um do you have a force the shooter shall be above the free throw line and within the upper half of the free throw he shall attempt the free throw within 10 seconds of controlling the ball in such a way that the ball enters the basket the ring the first thing you just said was what it is you have to be in that area which is it again the shooter shall be above the free throw line and within the upper half of the free throw he shall attempt the free throw within 10

seconds of controlling the ball in such a way I don't know that but that's it right there I don't know if it is or not with their language because he is he would technically be in that area while attempting it he would just be in midair when you have the ball yeah but he would be in midair the attempt starts when the ball is released not when you jump it's part of the active shooting I think there's shooting it's but like if you if a shot clock violation if you jump but you still have the ball in the air that's a shot clock right but that's a question about time not a question about space sorry to interrupt this riveting conversation but we got to take take quick Reggie Miller just just prompted this on twitter threw this out there to the people on on the on

the bird I'm just going to throw this out there to see what the responses will be if you're Steve Nash in the nets would you sit James Harden and Kevin Durant in game six because of the heavy minutes tonight and push all of your chips to the center of table for game seven no James Harden maybe maybe James Harden I like where Reggie says that but why would you just like what just not try what never played the game you don't know what it's like yeah but yeah I never played the game but I know you you got to play the game but I you I'm I just googled it can you dunk from the free throw line says no you cannot dunk from the free throw line maybe you are rules in place forbidding you to cross the free throw line until the basket hits the rim what website is that

sounds like bleach report I mean you're acting like they like there's someone who's entire job thinking about basketball there's so many tall basketball players that suck at free throws so this is not something that's like you just came up with okay here how about this big cat can you lay up from the free throw line yes it's where you jump from players end up inside the three point line all the time when they shoot and it still counts all right rule number one rule number nine the free throw shooter may not step over the plane of the free throw line that's until the ball touches the basket it's a live ball backboard or what doesn't that just for like the live ball what do you mean that's not about the violet the time violation the ball you can't cross the free throw line until

the ball touches the basket ring right right so that means you can't jump over the free throw line but they don't measure on your they don't they don't judge the air they judge lines like out of bounds they do big yet you can jump out of bounds with the ball but as long as you don't touch the ground but don't you think someone would have done this if you could do this no because they're not as brilliant as I am uh okay okay you know what this this sounds like a question for the NBA reddit community that asks those questions like can you just surround uh Steph Curry with all of his players holding hands you're right uh there's rumors that wilt chamberlain dunk free throws there's no actual footage of wilt dunking from the free throw line I think you run into trouble if you

touched the backboard or the rim or any of the apparatuses I think the move would be to take a couple steps you cannot do this there's no like you are just there's no way I just like the idea that you think this is the no one's ever thought no one has this very I've never heard anybody ever discuss it and certainly not because it's a stupid topic um all right can you legally dunk a free throw in your I didn't say dunk as an it well I mean but you jumping like across the free throw line is this it's the same no I'm an advocate for laying the ball into the basket before you hit the ground but it pretty much says that you can't do that you can't cross the line you're just saying air doesn't count air doesn't count man airspace does not count in basketball

it's where your foot is parallax effect it could be this also sounds like it would be harder for Yanis to basically jump he has to get the ball to hit the rim before he lands yeah every time it's almost physically impossible to do but it's not impossible okay we need a rules official to to hit us up Jake you got anything else you just got the rules you found the rules I got the rule book I'm pretty sure it feels like illegal either way it's only illegal until it might be one of those things where it's legal until someone's stupid enough to try it and then Google that has anyone tried it has anyone tried to jump across the free throw line for a free throw in a game um all right anything else uh the islanders that series went one one

the canadiens finally showed up to america places play in front of some real fans and it was a rave vegas is all the way back um let's do some hot seat cool throne yeah yeah wait what do you guys think um real quick do you think that the net's box goes seven or do you think six I think it goes seven it depends if they sit durant and hardly you can't step on or over the line until the ball touches the hoop yeah over meaning you can't step over the line meaning your foot can't land over the line it says the word step this might be they probably don't even have this hypothetical hey in there no one's thought of it yeah right so there's a he's ahead of everyone here all right let's do a hot seat cool throne brought to you by kors seltzer kors seltzer summer's finally here

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12 31 2021 kors will purchase services from change the course to restore 500 gallons of fresh river water max 5 billion gallons through 2021 details at korsselter.com hank hot seat cool throne my hot seat is guys who eat pussy oh box munchers yeah oh so i mean throw a junior soprano yeah i feel like you know i feel like in the past 10 20 years there's kind of been a rise it's been having a moment if you will eating pussy yeah but uh batman so there's there's the harley quinn movie which is the girl and there is a scene where batman was eating her pussy and she shot it down they're like we can't have that he's a superhero we can't you know is this directed by troops he he said you can't do that you absolutely cannot do that heroes don't do that and they said

are you saying heroes are just selfish lovers and they said no it's what we sell the consumer toys for heroes it's hard to sell a toy if batman is also going down on someone i disagree i disagree everyone looks up to heroes everyone wants to be a superhero yeah and if you want to be a superhero you can't eat pussy no it's like no all the all the kids with all the dreams everyone loves marvel the avengers batman all those kids are going to grow up not going down not eating pussy well i i also think that in the last couple years it's been a moment for eating ass i feel like ass eating has kind of overtaken eating box in our national discourse and so maybe you think i bet you batman would eat some ass mm-hmm i i don't like this move i think batman should let's be able to eat

anything i'd walk out of the theater what oh really well wait wait batman's not a superhero is he oh yeah technically he's not he's just a rich guy and i bet yeah rich guys don't eat pussy that's i agree with that superman michael douglas yeah yeah that's true he got cancer because he ate so much poon tang he's the poon hound of the millennium it is it's true what happened uh but yeah i i feel like a billionaire doesn't eat pussy and that's what batman is he's just a billionaire with a belt right bezos and then got divorced yeah good call and and bill gates yeah bill gates isn't going down on bitches no no superman would eat the fuck out of a clit where's bill gates benny's you gotten hot yet probably do i'm waiting to see him pop up just ripped i can't wait till jeff bezos

leaves and then comes back and we all pretend not to know him my cool throwing is girl scout cookies nice transition thank you okay that now that's a box i would eat hank oh got him i i mean that's a you meant to do that that's a five head transition that i totally meant to do um there's a huge shortage because of coronavirus i know there's a huge uh there's 11 million bonus boxes that they didn't sell oh it's like surplus surplus this year there's gonna you know two for ones oh a lot of bang for your buck if you're a girl scout cookie fan i love it i love it too i'm a tag along guy 15 million boxes of unsold cookies due to the stupid coronavirus what's the uh what's the peanut butter chocolate that's tag along yeah those are fucking six those are amazing tag along tag along

tag along tag along tag along is a language yeah yeah tag in the thin mints in the freezer tag alongs and samos that's all you need so what they should do is they should just burn the overstock right don't some companies do that whether if they have a surplus they just destroy it so it doesn't devalue the rest of them bring it here big maple syrup i always respected by the way loud shawn because i think his daughter's a girl scout and he never really took advantage of the fact that this uh entire office is full of like fat stoners so he could have easily just taken advantage of us he always hit me up for like a decent amount but he he knows deep down if he's like hey do you want 400 boxes of like yes thank you let's go that's it that's it okay all right good job thanks uh

great job you took my hot seat with the pussy talk over there Hank but that's fine i'll adapt i'll evolve my hot seat is the u.s open and more specifically the ratings for thursday because they have declined to group brooksy and Blake together wait they didn't decline brooksy did correct but they actually not no no hank hank that's fake news hank it's my understanding you're saying our guy barstle banks was lying well he he merely saw a tweet and he reported the tweet he talked to the agent he saw no the agent talked to i don't think the agent talked to banks you blow up the blog maybe i'm wrong i might be wrong i've been wrong before not about the free throw thing but about other stuff and i think that um the word coming out oh wait so you're saying

we should just blindly trust what bryce and de shambo's agent says about it there i it's mine it's my understanding that they were both asked and that bryce and de shambo turned it down because he didn't want to turn it into uh basically brooks was going to live rent free in brooksy's head and so he he turned it down by the way that's a little life hack for all the kids out there if you ever want to say something without sounding stupid about it instead of saying like i heard or i thought say it was my understanding that so it's my understanding as a reporter that bryce and actively turned it down because he's a pussy and batman wouldn't eat him i uh the entire thing just proves the point that like it's good for golf because they clearly wanted this to happen

the us open wanted to happen i mean it led sport center like all these things so brandy chambley and all these people like oh this is bad for golf dude people are gonna watch because if you put them together people would have tuned in on thursday and friday that normally wouldn't have tuned in and you can say oh that's not the type of fan we're trying to track i i think if you're not if you're any sport besides the nfl any fans a good fan do you think that active like die hard old school golf fans i'm talking 50s 60s would not tune in because brooks and bryce and were playing together no because they thought it was no they'd still watch yeah you'd be gaining fans of course you'd be gaining massive amounts of media coverage which is money for everyone

including brandy chambley so way to hurt yourself bro yeah all those all those guys screaming nice shot brooksy at bryce and they pay your salary brooks police look at marv albert's getting a little what a what a guy what a class act a career career well spent class act jake and he got the jersey with the microphone or is that handcuffs landing ovation that's a mic up yeah and then the what's on the front the ball gag the front is just a it's a brazier it's just no front of the blazes bite marks lace yeah all right your cool throne if my cool throne is the narrative that alabama quarterbacks are busts in the nfl oh because two uh there are varying media reports but he threw approximately 300 interceptions in practice yesterday and so now it's a case of uh looking

at the sidelines and seeing do you know who the backup is the backup josh rosin yeah maybe jacoby brissette oh and jacoby brissette guys everywhere he's the ultimate guy where you look on the sidelines and you're like maybe he's gonna look fat in that uniform no he's good for a few starts yeah he's not gonna look good in that uniform no i'm just gonna say that out loud but what we're seeing here is like because he had that one bad game at the start of uh of minicamp or whatever they're calling this this set of workouts um there's going to be reporters that fire up a tweet every single time he throws an interception in training camp everyone is going to be dying but it's going to be like of course the rg3 year in in cleveland where they were reporting on the various barnyard animals that is accidentally

hitting with throws over a fence that's what happens so this is going to it's going to snowball and then that's going to feed right back into the alabama quarterbacks can't play and as just a fan of narratives in general i'm i'm here for it very much uh hank is matt jones wearing 50 as a joke i guess it's a thing it's like a earn your number thing ah every time i see it i'm like what's going on here okay that makes sense i thought it was like how many duis have you had fifth came in we've got a great nickname for him though so they're they're what is it mac and cheese that's pretty good yeah because it's mac mac yeah where's the cheese well like mac and cheese is a food but where's the cheese mac jones mac jones macaroni okay um all right my hot seat is uh

mlb they've done it again the uh spider tack controversy that they knew about forever and decided hey we're gonna uh now start punishing people they went zero paul zero tolerance policy eliminated all substances and now tyler glas now uh incredible pitcher for the tip they raise is basically saying he got injured because of it because he went from being able to use a bunch of different stuff including sunscreen which i guess is i think you darvish used sunscreen sunscreen and rosin it's a mixture yeah when you combine them together but he he is blaming his ucl injury on this which might be a reach but i also could kind of see that if you just completely change how you uh throw a baseball in the middle of the season it you might overextend

and try to do things that you're not comfortable with so good job emma b you really fucking did it again you idiots they're finding a great way to stay relevant in the middle of the season which is it's very much majorly baseball to have everybody focused on the sport for something that is we're really just talking about how badly they've mismanaged and it's something about the sport and it's very it's been pretty bad so they're saying like you're allowed to still you can use sunscreen during day games you can't combine it you can't use sunscreen if you're playing a game indoors with roof close which i i guess i understand that one that kind of makes sense but they're saying like if it's an evening game if you're in a transition period where the sun's going down

try to get all the sunscreen off your body before it gets totally dark out there that's gonna be a just a treat to watch umpires try to police that yeah so i don't know what they're gonna do they're just gonna like make them show their hands every time they go out make so like tight go out and like rub the back of their arms so all i know is that if i were the Yankees they're the Yankees are looking for a reason to fire Aaron Boone at this point i if i'm the Yankees ownership i'd be like uh yeah we're gonna fire Aaron Boone because uh he was he was the one that was in charge of teaching our players all the cheating so now he's out and then they can hire whoever it is they want to hire but it's just it's a good way to have a scapegoat if you've got somebody you want to fire

tie it into this narrative it's just so stupid MLB is so fucking stupid they're just so goddamn stupid they've known about this forever and then it became a story because they ignore it and then when it becomes a story they basically go swing the pendulum as far the other way it's just so so dumb just wait till the offseason Trevor Bowers said this but it's like you just just deal with it for the season and wait for the offseason right drastic changes but just do this be like all right Monday you can do this Wednesday if you do this you're suspended right yeah but whichever hour insane like take what Trevor Bowers said he's like maybe you guys should wait until i'm a free agent again to start policing this but it's so stupid to do this like in the

middle of the season like to go from maybe just play maybe just say no spider tech you know the sunscreen the rods and all this other shit find a different way i mean guys doctor their bats and their grips and shit it's just so dumb i think they're just pissed because you know i think home runs are down right jake home runs might be down so they're like hey we gotta take a little bit you gotta figure out a way to get home runs back which because they you know they had the juice baseball then they had to unjuice the baseball MLB is just so dumb and incompetent and they always get in their own way well they're responding they're responding to the controversy of like too many no hitters and a big reason for that is because they did change the baseball so

they're kind of in two different ways responding to their own fuck ups so stupid all right my cool throne is Andy Dalton he's qb1 matt nagy wow way to go dude only the bears only matt nagy would name his qb1 before you even have training camp he said he can't envision a scenario in which justin fields would start i don't i'm actually okay with justin fields not starting week one what i'm not okay with is being like there's no competition well how do you every every like successful football team ever basically is like yeah it's always a competition the best guy like you know iron sharpens iron you think bell bellichick would be like oh yeah there's zero percent chance that mac jones could ever beat out cam newton well he probably came in it's probably

qb1 right now but if mac jones killed cam newton in camp he would you'd play the best guy yeah it's also shows a real lack of creativity on matt nagy's part to not even be able to think of a scenario where he might start yeah how about it all and gets hit by a bus no not saying he won't no i don't want him to actually like candy doll it's a really nice that's what i'm saying but what if that happened like kyle shanahan can envision seven different scenarios in which jimmy grapolo won't be alive tomorrow right matt nagy can't even think of one where he's you know his ticker's going to give out before september what tenth fucking idiot all right uh jake quickly hot quickly hot seat is mullet gardener minchew cut his off yeah but dana blowjobs still has his king of blowjobs if anyone's

looking for one dana beers he's now transitioned to being king of blowjobs you think wonder woman gives head yeah the misogyny is just off the charts over at dc cool throne is madden codes we're getting a cover of two goats that's all they said on uh thursday tomorrow what all right they are announcing two goats i quickly quickly what are you gonna say what your your idea that john madden should be on the cover he wants to kill john no no i actually did no we should go visit i know he wants to kill oh hey after he's trying to kill john madden i'm not you are i'm saying we need to go we need to go visit death over john madden because a picture came out of ronnie lot visiting john madden it looked like at a retirement home no but he's looked that old since the day he stopped

announcing it looks different no he's very old it looks different different this time and the fact you're trying to kill him no i'm not the fact that ronnie lot had to post a picture saying like look who's still alive it's john madden can you believe it like i don't know i i'm a big believer in honoring those amongst us while they're still alive yeah give the roses to the living is what they say it's name of video game after him put john madden back on the cover of madden so who's gonna be who do we think it's gonna be tom brady and my my guess oh did you see by the way uh erin rogers saying i'm offended mm-hmm but i think that people were linking it to the gm saying he's a complicated fella which pretty much means he's a dick you don't say he's someone's

complicated like if you ask like hey how's that guy is he cool well he's complicated he's got a great personality that's that is the nicest way to say he's an asshole yeah and again i want erin rogers to be happy so i'm not saying he's an asshole but other people are your gm is calling you an asshole just think about that your gm called you an asshole uh all right let's get to our interviews we got j cutler sons and four guy will compton to end the show uh remember the feeling you got as a kid of getting tucked into bed or the feeling you get now in the arms of somebody you love safe and secure it's a feeling of security that only comes through a human connection and that's why the people at simply safe home security are so important of course simply safe has an award

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ship but we also gotta talk a little father's day you've got uh cuts the new you're doing a new i mean i i guess it's a line it's a line of meat yeah it's a meat yes with pat lafritas and you sent us some delicious so what's the deal how could people do it and what what are they looking for for father's day yeah thank you so father this is coming up you're you're you're a father so you know the importance of the day um not to take away from others day and uh cuts you can go uh you can log in uh on the website uh by jmpat.com and we've got a new uh new box our subscription boxes we got one month three months and six months and then we're doing a gift box on father's day with a 40 ounce tomahawk in there gonna get some steaks you're gonna get some hot dogs you're gonna get

gonna get all the stuff so it's uh i've been lucky really lucky to team up with pat i mean him and his crew are phenomenal yeah we had one of them i cooked a tomahawk the other day can they can people out there order the tomahawk that's got like the engraved name in the bone um that was just special for you oh it was nice thank you i don't think i can eat another animal that doesn't have my name laser cut into it i know it's pretty cool the father's day one has number one dad uh engraved in it so that's cool yeah we're doing that hopefully i don't never i said this last year like i think it's bullshit that everyone gets number one dad like rank me appropriately what do you think you land i'm like somewhere i don't know if you did every how many dads are there in the world

i mean let's just i mean i 150 i don't know i'd say i'm in the top i'd say i'm in the top 20% of dads top 20% yeah i think i'm top 20% of dads yeah why i don't know i think i do a pretty good job i'm not saying i'm top 10% you have a pretty good job that's like top top 40% top 20% is elite what do you think i don't know i feel like i feel like it's easier than you think to be in in the top 10% oh okay just yeah like be around a lot be around be attentive you know don't hit them i mean there's i mean there's i feel like there's some i feel like there's unfortunately some absent dads out there right and those guys are getting like number one dad engraved tomahawks and it's not fair yeah right totally but if you're an absent dad sometimes

that's better than being there and being a shitty dad if you're yeah right if you are yeah that is like less is more addition by subtraction i just wish they would rank us like i wish we would get a power rankings that's what they should do for father's day they should just have a selection show and rank all the dads who's like not everyone gets one number one i think the rock probably gets number one well yeah if you were to see dads like who are the who are the four number one seeds of dad i think the rock is up there the williams dad no he's bad the williams no he's a helicopter dad yeah but they won multiple majors that's true that's true who's why is rock why is rock one i don't know he just a fucking always posted these guys little i think it's just

the i think it's the like how big of a human being he is and then he has like a tiny little daughter so he it's almost like a uh disney movie come to life well yeah all of his movies yeah i love the rock but i mean i'll play devil's advocate maybe he's compensating because he's gone so much and he's just posting some you know uh huh yeah so i if you had to go by that then i would say probably the best dad in the world is someone we never hear from yeah ever probably what about uh mr long what about how we long yes how we long i mean chris and and and kyle and and how would you know you're all pretty good yeah and tonio chromati yeah has to be up there he's up there for sure top top 10 for sure yes just by numbers if you're going just numbers game he's

yeah he's a compiler he puts a lot of garbage time if you if you can have kids that many kids that close in age like you're you have you have to be doing something right yes yes and you're just yeah they all don't hate you that's you get a lot of credit for that all right so father's day we got on a little tangent there i was thinking about this um vanderbilt they just hired a new coach did they reach out about coaching them yeah no um i talked to them um briefly uh and then i don't know who's on the committee that makes that picks the coach i have no idea um i talked to the ad um once and then they kind of just didn't contact them anymore so i don't know i don't know what happened wait so that sounds like they did reach out or did you reach out i'm

basically no no no they they reached out just to get my opinion like you know who i thought what they needed not for me to actually coach i would never coach there but oh you would coach somewhere else then no i would never cook period interesting that's a shitty profession yeah it is it honestly seems miserable like that it has to be miserable even if you're the greatest at your job and you're winning national championships you're allowed to be happy for about 30 minutes and then it's back to my miserable yeah and i think i feel like your dad ranking just plummets when you're getting the coaching yes for sure big time although you let your kids run on the field after the game true there's i mean there's perks they get swaggy cool stuff yeah they just never see you they just

never see you right right i like that they at least asked you though they they came and they kissed the ring a little bit for jay cutler but like in terms of your future uh professional aspirations last time we talked i think that there was there was talk about you getting in the booth you were gonna you were people forget you were actually hired by fox for like a week and then you were like you know what i'm gonna go back and play football again first of all i guess we should ask are you are you officially officially retired from football yeah officially officially retired um i've been owning owning some of the friends here in pool games this week so my arms my arms warming back up but i don't think i'm ready for the big time yet so are you gonna get in the booth

though um i don't know um we i had conversations about it two or three months ago um you know my problem with that is every away every game's an away game you travel every week and you know whenever you're playing saturday afternoon you're gone play sunday in your back like this like you have to be there friday saturday sunday monday and you travel 16 straight weeks i mean i'm not opposed to it um you know just right now it's not something that i'm 100 fired up to do if there was a home team that played all their games in the bahamas you consider it oh yeah 100% okay all over it wait this sounds to me like you're kind of making a running here for number one dad because you're essentially saying my job right now is to be a dad um i'm trying to break in the top

what can you actually just be a dad like is that enough in your day no no no no no no yeah you need to find out no i would hate my kids by that point you gotta find something else to do yeah if i hear if i hear daddy or dad one more time i'm gonna kill somebody yeah so wait what what are you gonna do then tell us give us break us some news um i got i just signed a podcast deal got that happening okay nice awesome yeah welcome to the terror dome yeah um i'm not sure how that's gonna go i mean it can't be that hard you guys just sit there talk to people yeah so easy it's the easiest you're gonna be great at it yes yes um so that we have the cuts thing and then i'm working with some guys in um dashville on a company uh that we're getting close to it's kind of a media

company type of thing so we're getting close to doing some stuff with that you're going to invent a media company i'm not a veteran i'm coming up with some guys that have a media company huh interesting does his name start with clay travis um no but clay knows about the the media program so it's jay cutler and ben Shapiro oh no Ben oh is that Tommy in the background tell her i say hi how all right so it is a real question how weird is it to be retired but everything you say or do becomes news like i don't know what it is about you but you have something about you that people just want to talk about you is it is it annoying that everything you say becomes news or do you kind of like the fact that hey still got it yeah i mean kind of

like the fact still got it you know you can make some money um now it doesn't bother me now because you know i'm not playing football so you can say whatever you want like i can care less um and i don't have to i get to pick and choose who i want to talk to when i want to talk to him and i'm usually talking about stuff i want to talk about anyway so now it's it's it's fine with me yeah yeah when you work i mean i think i think i'm kind of on the parcel train like you know all publicity is good publicity at this point yeah well be careful i could end up in a sex tape yeah just don't let it cross state lines you'll be good yeah it was already like when you were doing

publicity in the in the NFL after a game you'd be like talk to the reporters or like the people that you had obligations to talk to would you know in the middle of an interview like this is what i just said a couple seconds ago that's going to suck because that's going to be taken in a certain context and my week is going to be tough or did you just not care i don't think i didn't care um you know i think i got to a point where it's like they're gonna write like most of time i get to a point like these guys have already written an article like they're done they've already written it they've got what they want to say you know they're just looking for one thing out of me um and you know depending on the mood sometimes i gave it to him sometimes i would

literally be as big as humanly possible and then sometimes my favorite jay move would be if he didn't feel like talking to the media he'd just send kyle long in his place to waddle in sylvie show and then it was like seven in a row where it's like he just doesn't want to do this anymore i think he yeah yeah he was like wait what the hell i'm just doing this now every single week i'm jake kyle was like do i gotta rename the show like what's happening here because you just put on like a wig and worn one of your jerseys and pretended to be you mega j uh he takes me a couple days ago that's that's a shame about his legs i know i know he heard his leg he got he got injured he got rolled up on apparently he might be back for the regular

season yeah like he said yeah he's gonna keep i think it's three four three four months he should be back so and not to to not to toot his horn because he can you know he's he's his own guy but apparently he was dominating in practice i'm just gonna say that oh really well that's what he told me so i i'm i'm gonna i'll be i'll happily for a friend i'll happily say that he was definitely dominating um it doesn't surprise me i mean he's a big show yeah yeah he is like he puts his hands on you it's it's game over yeah yeah do you feel uh like 100 physically healthy now um yeah you know i i don't i didn't have any knee problems anything like hips i just shoulder surgery um so physically i think i i feel good i've lost weight um i would say memory and stuff like that

that ct's it's coming at some point you think so oh without a doubt because how many concussions did you end up happening you think oh i mean since i've been playing in a high double digits i've seen shit that's one of those things where it's like almost waiting for it can be its own personal type of injury where you're just like you psych yourself out for it enough and you think every time you forget something like oh what if this is the start of it what if it's sort of to degenerate are you able like is there anything that has been whispered to you or is kind of like floating out there just under the surface of ways that you can try to prevent some of that stuff from taking onset um you know i'm doing a thing about nad now which i don't even

know what it stands for you have to google it but uh it's an iv drip um and it kind of goes it starts like the the mitochondria like the the basis of your cells power starts regenerating from from that side um you know fish oil heavy amounts of fish oil you're supposed to help the brain um you know i'm i think diet you know less less sugar less carbs you know as much as you possibly can do but um you know concussions are i mean they're scary what was the worst one was it i have an idea of what might have been but what was the worst one like that you were like holy shit i don't remember any of it um i would say the texans one but you you obviously texans one texan was bad like texan was bad um we were playing i think we were playing washington

and i got it was a db i forget who it was and i just got slung around he just slung me around and like threw me down at my side of my head hit and that's kind of that's like the one of the only times i was i was out out i was out for you know a second and got up and walked off um i don't know i think you know if you play long enough it's gonna happen to you yeah what uh so speaking of of guys who are who are still playing and uh weird situation but i think you're kind of friends of them now erin rogers have you like what do you make of that it's it's it's like it's weird because it's it just feels like it's not going to be resolved and they're just kind of sitting there like all right who's making the first move here well he's not i mean i haven't

talked to i haven't spoke to him on this i mean i'm kind of letting him be i don't really want to bother um but i doubt he's gonna break yeah i think this i think this has been brewing for a long time yeah yeah i've got a theory that he might just disappear he seems like the kind of guy who at least has had those conversations where he's like i don't need to be around sports i don't need to be in the spotlight that much what if we just like ran away and went off the grid together i feel like if any quarterback's gonna do it he is the one that would have the personality type oh i totally see i totally agree with that you know he's he's in love he's engaged life's in order he feels at peace i mean i couldn't see him rolling out but he's also competitive as hell too so i

mean i think that's gonna be hard for him just to walk away um the year after he wins the MVP i mean i mean he's on fire i mean green bay green bay needs to figure it out they need to do whatever it takes literally whatever it takes yeah they i mean it seems like they they are gonna just sit there and be like all right you're either playing for us you're not playing for anyone but one of the teams that he's been rumored to go to your former team which i know you loved it there denver like that's a really just you know talk up denver real quick for erin if he's listening like it's an awesome place right awesome place yeah fans are awesome stadiums awesome facilities is awesome um the weather i mean it's it's an unbelievable city happiness yeah everyone i mean

sunny you know there's 300 days of sunshine a year out there you get off four seasons i mean it's it's a great place great place for football too um i don't know who they have they have anybody on offense got uh teddy bridge water no no but rock no they actually have good receivers they got uh fuck what phanta the the top no a fan no fans they've got um phanta jerry judy yeah really fast receiver he can he can go yep who else did they get they got a couple other guys they actually have some good weapons yeah i mean it doesn't matter i mean they're just gonna run around to figure it out yeah right so and but might as well figure it out with 300 days of sunshine when maybe you know you're not so happy in green bay absolutely i mean why why didn't green bay go after julio

i mean they gave them to tennessee i mean i i think i don't i think maybe because the falcons might not want to have traded him like within the it's not like within the conference yeah but it's not like itlanda was going to be competing for a super bowl this year yeah no not at all i don't i don't really get that either they should have at least at the very minimum done what the celtics do all the time which is say that you're going for somebody and then when you don't get them be like we tried to get them so that way that way at least Aaron knows yeah some sort of peace offering hey we're trying to get you somebody yeah what um so justin feels do you like him do you think that he's going to be successful in chicago i don't know i haven't you know i mean i saw him in college this

year i haven't studied him or anything um are they gonna play him i mean is that the word up there i don't know it feels like they're not what would you do like if you knowing everything that you had in your career do you think that there's are you land on the hey just put the guy in because he'll either figure it out or he won't or let the guy sit and learn how to be a pro for a little bit which one would you side on uh hundred percent let him sit really hundred percent i mean that used to be what everyone did back in the day like you know very few i mean dammer you know kind of started being a lot of those guys you know they sat and watched for a little bit um and i think there's a lot i think it's very valuable i think you you you you get settled in um you know i think guys now

are a little bit more tuned and ready for nfl than they were you know 10 15 years ago when i came in um but it's just a different game you know and these guys are coming from these programs that they've had one loss or two losses an entire career they play with the best kids in my country on their team competition isn't really that that's great i mean they play a few games a year that are tight but you get in a fell it everyone's good everyone's good and also uh i know this is basque my own team but if you had to like say it like ohio state runs better as a franchise in the bears just for like a football ops situation they are they do they have a better culture they have probably just as good facilities like all these things i was probably better yeah the only the only thing

going against justin fields right now is he's so he's been told that he's going to be back up that they wanted to sit they wanted to watch but oh yeah they haven't told that well they've they've said yeah and he's a star going into the season yeah depending on what justin fields is going to be your number two but once you get through the second preseason game and it's become very obvious to everybody not just in the games but in practices that justin fields is a better player they're at some point this year going to be like we got to put him out there like especially if they start losing a few games in a row matinee he's going to be like yeah we got to save our jobs let's put justin fields out there for a little bit um but yeah yeah yeah you can tell

that in a locker room right like if you if the coach isn't playing the best player guys get pissed right oh absolutely absolutely i mean quarterbacks a little bit different because um you know offense defensive guys you know they're cycling in and out of practice or the quarterback is a backup he might get two reps so you're not going to see that much of him in in the regular season if they can get him to that point but if he's head and shoulders better um yeah it's going to be a problem at some point what but i mean i think i think andy's i don't think he's going to go in there and just blow andy out of the water he's not not awful by any means yeah i mean i not that all you don't have to tell me yeah we have history with that 80 14 tell me that isn't that weird

that that i ended up happening that he i know i know i i would take you over andy dalton right now i would i would wait wait who's a better dad you for sure well i can't speak to you don't i've seen you with your kids you're a good dad i haven't seen any kids yeah he's got a bunch yeah wait um so i have a this is kind of like uh i don't know where i i i i don't think that they should plan they shouldn't plan to start see how the season goes if they're starting if they start losing a bunch of games you know i'd wait until week 10 or something if they start off on fire even better you know they don't they don't have to plan yeah well how quickly when you start a camp how quickly can you tell the new guys the rookies like they got it or they don't like can you tell

like all right this guy's gonna be a pro or this guy i don't know what they saw but he does not have that it factor oh i mean i i think i think players know before scouts and coaches do you know scouts and coaches they're all on potential and you know we can we can we can grow them you know he's gonna do whatever it is like as a player you don't care either you either you can step in the huddle and make some stuff happen for us we can't that's it um so a couple practices and you know mostly guys know who you play and you can't play was there ever a guy who surprised you who you're like right away you're like oh he can't play and then he's like oh he actually can play i was wrong no no i mean nobody that jumps off the page like that because i mean you just know like

i mean we've been even playing with playing football with guys since we've been five so it's it's not lost on anybody mm-hmm what about but unfortunately you know not many people not many gms not many coaches listen to their players that often so that's where they get screwed i think they know more than we do right are you still a gunslinger yeah like day to day life how do you maintain a gunslinger lifestyle when you're not playing football um you're the Bahamas just gonna hang out yeah pool games slings of meat you know are you throwing like papers into the trash can from across the room just recklessly oh yeah always throwing stuff around we were playing uh we're trying to we're with some some guys here and we're trying to come up with new pool games

because one guy with us literally hasn't won one yet there's a great game called dimmy yeah hank tell him tell him about dimmy hanks got a game hanks got a game for you uh you drop a one person puts a golf tee at the bottom of a pool i don't know if he's talking about pool i think he's talking about pool no he's talking about Bahamas you drop a golf tee into the bottom of the pool and then everyone stands around and you just have to like spot the golf tee and the first person to grab it wins it'll float up slowly and kind of drift up and you have to just you know first person to see it jump in and grab it and if someone misses it then it kind of floats around its chaos that's a good game it's essentially the same game that you would play with like six golden retrievers yeah it's

good game it's a good game with a stick yeah that's a good game i don't you're not i'm not sold on this game all listen get get your guys around just stand them on the edge of the pool one guy goes to the bottom of the pool with a golf tee and you'll you'll see what happens it's fun okay i'm gonna we're gonna try it yeah okay i'm curious hank so when it when they let it go at the bottom you can't see it right no so it's totally invisible and then eventually it'll float up high enough where somebody will spot it yes okay what's the guy then so the one person will see it first but then other people will jump in reactively and then if someone doesn't get it like right away like if they don't get it on the first jump then it's all the people are in the pool now

and it's floating around you can't see it anywhere like you just can't see it it's like where is it and then someone will eventually get it so the guy that has to go into the water first is he just kind of out then or he has to get back out he's gonna get up get up stand up oh oh the guy who puts it in the dimmy yeah has to get up he puts it down down on the bottom and then he gets up out of the pool and then everyone stands around yeah but he's got an advantage because he knows where the t is i don't know what you guys are trying to like you guys are trying to like game break the game to me it's a fucking pool game like i don't i don't know what you're playing this really bad yeah it's we're playing it's too far you guys are trying to like here's a good way jay you ever do the one

where you just jump off the diving board and then have one of your friends like toss a tennis ball to you in midair oh yeah that's great that's the best that that's a classic wait that's a great guy so wait so so this t has to be white i take it right yes well right here it could be a brown one probably not blue yeah we've got plastic wood i i don't know you're fucking off t and fucking put it at the bottom of the pool we're trying to get some rules here you know yeah is there like is there is there like points do you like you know first person first person making game first person to 10 first person to 10 first person to 10 yeah that's a long that's a war of oppression this is a this is a workout now afternoon a full afternoon going after could you imagine watching this from

a far be like why the fuck are these guys keep jumping yeah like i haven't really played it since i was like 12 or 13 so i don't know how it will be with like full-bodied adults but you know big ass board board set up you can report back oh my god should be an olympic sport hank yeah that's a good sport uh we talked to uh brett farve another gunslinger a couple months ago and he actually had a really interesting answer to a question we asked him what his favorite interception was and he told us to a t what his favorite pick off was do you have a favorite interception yeah it wasn't in the game it was in practice it was my rookie year in denver and champ bailey picked me off in practice and he had like champ swag was like through the roof and he had on this

blacked out visor looked like darth vader over there scared to death and throw it his way because i mean he was a intercepting machine and uh it was a hitch and he was he was like eight yards off he was like eight yards off and i was like just don't look his way just take your three bang it out there you get a completion we can move on next bike just don't look over there some kind of peek in that way snap it i'm like i eyes are straight through one two three and i literally just do with a missile i was like just beat him just get the ball there as fast as possible and this dude i don't know how he did it but he was eight yards he might have taken like two steps back and then like literally just bam gone picked it off high steps like 80 yards down the field and i was like well okay well

i guess this is the NFL don't throw champ bailey yeah he was that dude um he was he was so good it was unbelievable how good he was and he tackled like he did everything yeah everything i mean he'd mix it up i mean he was he was he was phenomenal what about what about a what about a touchdown you threw that you were like fuck man my arm is awesome oh um that was my rookie year too i think um it was to uh javon uh what you went to a receiver um javon walker javon walker yep and it was it was a boot it was a bootleg so fate right now is rolling left and he was on the left side too and it was a double move and he ended up back in the post um and i was going left and someone someone was coming at me and i flipped my hips real fast and literally just i mean

lasered one like 65 yards hit him and strided like a five and i got smoked after it i'm watching it right now yeah are you week 14 against uh the cardinals it's a 54-yard touchdown you got smoked at the end and that throw is fucking sick holy shit and you're like damn i got a fucking cannon i was like all right we can do this that's awesome do you that's a great throw do you have any throws that you made that maybe didn't count during the game maybe there was a hold a throw that time forgot that you still remember like damn i wish that wouldn't count it no i don't know there's a couple like there's a couple like little like loft throws that i made like in the tight stuff i was like yeah that was really good that was a really good throw dude this throw is sick

it is pretty good this throw is sick you put it right out in front of him i mean that's great that that was the one that came right in your mind because it is absolutely up there yeah that was nasty yeah there's some dude there's some dudes out there they can just throw the football now though you know i mean erin's erin has a cannon staffer it's underrated he's got a cannon and brady somehow his arms got stronger interesting uh with matt stafford going to los angeles i feel like that's the move that we haven't really talked about that much this off season but like is he good enough to bring the rams back to the super bowl right now i i think so i think he's gonna blow it up coaching staff's good um he he's gonna have

some of the best play calling he's ever had in his life um and he's still talented he can throw it he's competitive yeah i think he's future hallfamer people get mad at me for that but he is gonna have i don't know how they'll judge this era for quarterbacks because it's gonna be difficult because obviously the numbers are so inflated but if he plays for another i don't know four five years he will be like numbers wise up there with with everyone else yeah um you're a hundred percent right his numbers are gonna be ridiculous but i mean what's he if he doesn't if he doesn't if he doesn't want to play off game rest of his career is he still in right that's the problem i think he has to go what i've said is he's gonna be a hallfamer if he can get a deep run which means

he's got to get to a championship game or a super bowl i think that would be because then then you have the stories that are written about him everyone's like oh matt stafford's so underrated he needs that moment that everyone starts to like kind of wake up to him like oh yeah like he actually hasn't had a nice career in bad situations yeah and he's made a ton of money it's incredible how much money he's made there and they're winning like two games a year yeah yeah it is it is actually crazy and he's tough as hell he like i feel like he's one of those guys that gets beat up all the time and never misses games except you know he broke his back but yeah i was doing some and he also he had like some shoulder issues but i'd say like the only time he missed the game he literally

broke his back yeah it's like yeah that's fair that you can miss those games he missed that game yeah i was uh i was doing some research on your stats here jay you never caught a receiving touchdown no it literally bothers me yeah that's tough did you ever lobby to get yourself put in all the time all the time i was like someone like can we not have a fake play can we not throw me like something give me something um yeah never did well you didn't really you did you didn't get that chance to be a receiver with the dolphins and you just gave no fuck like you you just were standing out there with your hands on your hips i mean i'm not doing anything they told me and they said hey just take a step back that's what you need to do i was like okay fine and you certainly

took a step back you're like yeah i can do that i'll i'll do that i want to lift my hands up yeah i'll nail that role watch this you do you think maybe after that experience that would have been the perfect time to throw you pass yeah i'm running running again in the fourth quarter but this time boom yeah after there's a little bit of film out there of jay like literally looking like he wants to bury himself underneath the turf instead of playing wide receiver maybe next time just have him pretend to do that and then run a go around you well here's my thing with with with the wildcat situation like that just put somebody else in the game like like at least make it legitimate like put somebody like that you want out there like why are you why are people put that

quarterback out at receiver yeah no that makes no sense you literally have your hands on your hips though yeah well it's 11 it's 11 on 10 like i wouldn't even i wouldn't even send a corner out like that this is this isn't happening is a cornerback allowed to come up and block you and just like knock you on your ass in that play yeah you can get hit that's why i take a step back i if you step i don't know i don't know what the rule is yeah i mean you yeah like your your hands on the hips like if someone came and hit you like you'd be a real dick like come on man you're essentially saying with your body language like i'm here but i'm not here yeah they're just paying me to stand out here they're just paying me to stand out here guys and literally they're not throwing

me the ball they don't care what i do did you ever think about blocking somebody though yeah for sure but then you then you're setting yourself up for failure yeah if you instigate then it's like that way now the other person can respond yeah or if you instigate it doesn't go the way you think it's gonna go then you're just a jackass yeah yeah and i feel like also the like all the defensive players they they like the thing they're looking for more than anything is to have a chance to go at the quarterback like freely and be able to light you up absolutely the rules now so i mean it's you can play quarterback forever now yeah yeah yeah it is ever it is you play for 30 years yeah with these new rules as a dad are you gonna let your kids play football it's a really good

question um thank you and camden wants to play so bad it's not even funny um he wants to play flag football now you know he watches it 24-7 memorizes everybody um i don't know you know it's gonna be one of those things it's gonna be hard to hard to keep him out it's gonna be hard to say no um i think i'm i will get to a point where if i don't think he's been enough to you know to play high school or to play college if you know he's just out there just getting his head beat in just for just cause i'm gonna i'd be like hey like why don't we play but if he's competitive can take care of himself and you know has it has a chance of going to school or college or something like that i'll i'll support it we should you know what i was thinking about this just popped in my head

because you're talking about like being good enough the um we should put a calendar jake put in a calendar once a year we got to make the jay cutler uh basketball mixtape go viral because you got to love that when everyone's like dude jay cutler was sick at basketball it's like well he was a fucking nfl athlete like i wouldn't i'm not shocked and also you were playing against like no one that was over six feet no they were six feet in weight they were like five five ten in weight and you're just dunking on everyone they uh it's kind of a little known fact how athletic most quarterbacks yeah it's true like they're sneaky athletes well you know what it is it's i think that there's i mean now it's totally different but you know like 25 30 years ago you'd have a bunch of quarterbacks that

were you know uh like almost cement shoes like you know it was it was always a classic like no mobility now all the quarterbacks they i would imagine there's some of the best athletes like overall athletes on the team oh for sure i mean good hands you know they're smart they could run i mean like just the position has changed but you know some of some some dudes that play quarterback like josh mctown like get him on a basketball court see what happens yeah dude can just straight fly yeah dude you're just jamming on people oh jam is that all little kids is that your only move you only dunked though yeah that's all i did didn't have a jumper i you haven't taken a single jump shot on this on this it was i think it was it was that was in you know that was we made that

they made that tape and it was that was vhs back then and that's what you were sending off the colleges so you know i had all my football highlights and then at the end we just threw a bunch of dunks in there just to kind of try to sell the sell the athlete part and then yeah you had the um i don't know i've seen this a few times on uh twitter but like the was it trick play that one you state title in indiana at the rca dome yeah yeah it was a trick play at the to win the whole title what was the trick play we went into uh we went into overtime we were up we were up big not big we were up 21 something um 21 nothing 21 7 and then they came back and uh no time left there and they i had i played safety too so i had like 21 tackles and the other safety had like 22

tackles like we couldn't stop this dude like this guy was just running through us like butter um and they drove down to the i don't 20 yard line i don't say it's a 30 yard kick um freshman kicker they had and uh no time left the two seconds three seconds left missed the kick they missed the kick the win we go to overtime um i think they kicked the field goal we got the ball first first first play um i must we i must the snap end up diving on it second play they call it was like i forget what it was like ace of spades right or something like that and we had four guys out we had four four receivers out to the right i kick it out there backwards pass and then kind of to walk off to the left a little bit we had lineman pulling the left threw it back to me

walking at touchdown you did get that's way better than any nfl touchdown to win state title as a quarterback to catch a touchdown so i knew that i thought like i yeah i have i have a vague memory of seeing this on twitter there it is that's better than yeah that's the best touchdown catch you can catch and i'm watching this kick from from this guy at the end of regulation it looks it's about a 30-yard field goal and i think he lands it five yards short he kicks it 25 yards i think i think i think that kicker was actually really good too like he just i don't know what happened on that one but then he uh he nailed the win over time but yeah that was my last play in high school my last play in college was a touchdown throw to url bennett and then my last play in nfl was just a

incompletion to nobody's hand or nose in week 17 yeah yeah yeah and you played like one set of downs and that was it on set of downs yeah and gay she's like hey you want to take another run at this i'm like for what oh like i hope it's like we're like we're like six and whatever like uh we need to follow up on what we talked about last time which was your chickens how are your chickens doing ah we're struggling oh no we're struggling you got another had another raccoon problem um man i've learned that everything basically on the planet can kill a chicken like they're just they're just worthless i can't defend themselves you don't have a brain like it's just i don't it's just tough yeah anything that anything that looks bad at a chicken can kill it yeah so i

feel bad getting more it's like these bastards are probably gonna die too what am i doing it's just a slaughterhouse at this point yeah but all chickens kind of do die like you know that's a great point yeah i mean at least i'm giving them a little bit of a fun life for a couple months you're adopting chickens you're fostering chickens until they get killed by nature yeah it's better than being like what like a fast food restaurant chicken true yeah i mean you know they live in cage this big lights on 24 seven right yeah those chickens that you're getting you're you're really saving their lives in a way you're giving you're giving them a life and yeah they might it's like chicken fantasy camp they get to live out like the the biggest fantasies that a chicken could ever have

until they get slaughtered by a fox yeah and a horrific horrific death but i would take that bargain as a chicken yeah i would i'd rather get mauled by like a badger after living outdoors for six months and living in a pen yeah then some fat ass like coming in being like all right now it's time to slit your throat so you can go be some chicken tendies yeah you're right yes so you're good a fast food chicken a fall dude fast food chickens by far the worst life like they overgrow their breasts right they can't like me sitting in a fucking cage with big ass titties just waiting to die i am a fast food chicken although i would i would like to be a chicken that gets killed and then gets shipped to buffalo wild wings that would be cool during march madness during march

yeah that would be i think that's the greatest like chicken yeah yeah week 10 and what rivalry week college week 10 and iron bowl being an iron bowl chicken would be amazing that would be sick oh man um all right last question so uh go to cuts right now um get get the box for father's day give us your number one grill tip because i'm trying to get better at grilling okay um get the grill as hot as you possibly can okay hot hot hot hot hot and then if you've got to take it off off the hot and just kind of put it in the corner and just let it cook the rest of the way there do you have a meat thermometer i i i am buying one i bought one it's on the way okay i gotta get a meat thermometer yep because the temperature is is key how do you eat your six uh medium uh rare

plus perfect okay i know it is so then the next key is once you once you hit your temperature take it off and let it rest 10 15 minutes till it's almost you don't want it a little bit cool i mean you don't want to eat cold meat but it shouldn't be hot see that's my problem that's where i always fuck up because as soon as i finish i want to eat it gotta let it rest yeah you gotta let it rest because all those juices soak back up in there if you just cut it right then everything's going so one thing i i learned recently was when you sear it you can sear it at the end you can start it in the oven and then you can sear it after it's all like mostly all the way cooked somebody had had told me like my whole life that searing locks in the juices that's actually not true but

it just sounds cool to say so people have repeated it but you can sear at the end that's called a reverse sear yeah yeah we're gonna reverse sear all right everyone go check out j cuts.com check it out we had the tomahawk steaks they were incredible um j great to talk to you hopefully see you soon we might see a grit week i'll let you know nashville might be on the stop um but enjoy enjoy the rest of the afternoon in your games at dimmy let us know how it goes yeah i mean i'm going to the pool right now to play this dimmy game i mean i i i don't have high hopes for it i'm just gonna throw that out there i think hank should have said hey we played it when we were 12 not two weeks ago that probably would have been helpful for me to know that but yeah give a shot

give a shot you never know do you have a golf team how deep is the pool that's the real that's the big question i mean i you uh i bet it's probably places it's eight foot i mean i wish it was 10 or 12 i mean that seems like more fun but we'll make it work yeah all right better yeah i need an update give me an update after you play dimmy well do appreciate it boys all right thanks j talk to you later j color was brought to you by our great great friends over at roman swipes most guys have tried different ways to last longer but thinking about baseball doesn't always work the folks over at roman an online men's health company are changing the game with roman swipes it is the secret to longer lasting sex roman swipes are a clinically proven way to last longer

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is that right yeah you got it he is the sons and four man we have some shirts out right now sons and four fire shirts go check it out at the barstool sports store we did it with nick um first of all i don't know you your head must be spinning because you went was this friday night you beat up the murray brothers and then all of a sudden you got debon booker tweeting at you you got shirts up on barstool sports store i'm assuming you have tickets now to the game how is like the last four days bet yeah i mean it's been a roller coaster for motions obviously it's been pretty wild so i'm still trying to process everything the last thing i thought was me being viral in a video you know so um yeah i'm just trying just trying to take it step by step

you know just being chill with it um but yeah you know debon booker reaching out his team reaching out was it's pretty epic so yeah it's amazing congratulations i i the first thing that i thought when i saw the fight that you were in was this guy is kicking somebody's ass but he's doing it in a very chill way like the uppercuts were chill and i think that everybody that watched that you were fun to root for in that situation so can you walk us through um like what led up to that fight what were they saying how long had you guys been going back and forth and at what point did you realize okay it's time to chuck some knocks yeah um well let me take you back i mean i'm a phoenix fan that's been living in denver for 10 years so just having this opportunity to see a playoff game um was just

a dream so after having it come into fruition i'm just i'm ecstatic to be there i'm in section 106 i'm right behind the away team and uh you know like i'm i'm having fun like i'm making the whole atmosphere just a fun uh environment for everybody's nugs fans phoenix fans anybody and so everybody's on my side before this fight even happens but you know cut to the fourth quarter there's two three minutes left in the quarter suns are up by 15 i'm doing a little chirping at the crowd but it's all lighthearted it's all in fun nature like bye safe trip home see you tomorrow or see you next year just all in for fun and these two guys are walking up from the lower section and they took offense to this they didn't like what i was saying clearly so you know homey with

four watches is is coming up to me and flaunting his fake jewelry clearly fake fake as fuck jewelry and uh i gave him shit about it so we were talking shit back and forth he pulls out a lot of cash like it's going to change my opinion on you and so it's just it's just a wild time to be like wow people like this really conduct themselves in an environment like this it was pretty gnarly to go um and witness so you know i turned my head for a second i hear uh you know watch out there's beer being poured on my head my jersey's being tugged and once someone puts their hand on my and my body like i feel threatened and instincts kick in so i'm starting to to just defend myself and i'm pushing them back telling them to leave like get away from my face um and

you know then obviously you see the video of of edgar is what they people like to call him eager edgar uh you know throw the sloppy ass um sucker punch and yeah i mean the rest is pretty much history you know just because i had the crowd initially on my side made everything just so much more perfect because yeah i would say that's the part where it's like you you can tell that you were not in the wrong and it you were probably doing just like very uh like generic chirping having fun in a way stadium yeah and not pissing people off because it seemed like all the nuggets fans were rooting for you i actually saw a another angle from up higher and the guy was a nuggets fan he was like yeah fuck him up fuck him up so you had nuggets fans rooting for you that's how much

these guys sucked yeah yeah i mean it's uh you know when i got escorted out by the cops i had four other nuggets fans come out to me and talk to the cops but like i have a i have a lawyer giving me his card i have other people saying it's all self-defense like so i mean it was pretty cool like i'm obviously not banned from the nuggets stadium and uh you know i i the most important part is that i and the people that i love are you know are safe right so and and the guy one of the murray brothers i maybe this was uh you said his name is edgar edgar did like a uh snapchat video right after have you seen his recap of the fight because i have i have seen his recap of the fight doesn't really square with the video evidence that we were presented with i think he said that he

beat your ass yeah and he was like showing his like bloody fists um did you right after you were escorted out who was the first phone call you made and did you hop on instagram live to tell everybody that you just got your ass kicked well my buddy was at the game and he was sitting nose bleed and uh i called him immediately when i was escorted by the cops and i told him i just got into a fight um i never thought it would be in a viral video i didn't think the cameras were out like i was just focused on one thing um and the following morning he hit me up and he said i you know you told me you got in a fight i didn't know you get him like this and so i just saw this video go from 1000 views to you know a million in less than a day and it's just it's a it's a it's just a crazy

time to be living in right now i think honestly uh the the video doesn't go viral if it weren't for the sons and four the sons and four as they're walking off was such a perfect thing to say where it's like not malicious it's just hey buddy i'm in your stadium i just beat your ass sons and four now was there any nervousness on sunday night because i think we all knew the sons were going to win the series but if they didn't sweep if it wasn't sons and four that video becomes kind of forgotten because it's like hey you didn't do it like i bet on the sons because of that video because of you i was like this guy was a spoiler he basically told us what was gonna happen so you must have had some extra nerves going into sunday night being like i god damn it the sons better

went in for oh yeah they have to win or this is dying down real quick and and i swear jokic or jokic saw this video somewhere because he got in booger space like he wanted to do something yes yes yes but oh man so have you made contact with devin booger uh his team reached out yeah okay are we can we expect to see you in one shape or another at the next round we're we're in talks uh there's nothing set in stone right now i mean my my goal is like if i can go to the game which would be epic is just to shoot around with the boys like that's all that's kind of a big ass i'm gonna say like i just want four seats for me and my friend like no dude i just want to i just want to warm up with the boys i want to hang out in the locker

real quick fucking get in the layup behind like that's a big ass i love that that's that's a true fan you're like i just want to shoot around with the boys yeah hell yeah maybe get invited to the team hotel beforehand oh who knows yeah we'll see where it goes all right so i heard from shady she goes down i don't know what you're talking about now all right interviews so so nick i i told you beforehand that uh the only thing you had to prep for was we we actually had one of the only times that we've ever uh predicted something correctly by going we were a nuggets podcast during the regular season and then we flipped to the sun's podcast before this series started and then they swept suns and four so we are uh i would say actually the

numbers don't lie we're the number one sun's podcast in in the world it's just a fact uh it's just a fact but for grass tyson maybe maybe maybe but for people who are like um hey you guys are real suns fans like i like you guys don't really know sun's history like what should we know what should you know yeah as a sun's fan like if we're if we were like these are the true things like callback jokes or hey this is how we're feeling you don't need to know anything history historically just know that suns and four and maintain that energy the rest of this playoff series i like it so they never lost another game well i think suns and four is more of like a mentality than it is prediction so right now yeah we're a suns and four podcast it doesn't necessarily

mean they're going to win in four but that's the energy that we're bringing to the next round they might win in six right might win in seven but it's still that same suns and four like drive that we're going to have hundred percent so it's a big dick energy you bring yes there you go so do you want to do you want to give a prediction depending on who they play in the next round uh well yeah i mean obviously i'm hoping that the clippers win uh because we really want homeport advantage and i'd rather play the clippers than the jazz i think jazz are just a terrifying team for us uh and you know if it does go to clippers versus suns i think we have a real chance of suns and four again okay i love that we do i fucking love it what about campaign do you love him

campaign six man of the year yeah he's so bad but he's somehow good it's crazy it's crazy man i've watched simply a lot of basketball i don't know what he's doing he's like he's someone that everyone should aspire to be like just find your moment and just become incredible for for a small stretch and people will just change everything they know about you yeah for sure he gives us that second boost of energy that we need off the bench so he's a he's crucial partner team what about the gorilla do you think that there's any chance maybe you could get on the court and i don't know like hold the ball over your head and have the gorilla jump over your head and dunk it i think we need a new mascot like i don't even know

where the gorilla comes from like i'm thinking maybe try to employ me or commission me yeah i like this i like this okay well yeah i mean i'm gonna do something like first home game for playing the clippers i i have to be there just for that energy you know like apparently i haven't been back to arizona for you know a decade now and it's just like legendary status apparently around there for me so i don't know what the fuck is happening but i need to be there for the game dude you are i don't think you fully realize like how funny that will be when you show up and everyone's just taking pictures with you and shit you gotta enjoy your moment yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah i mean get get a custom jersey made and it just says on the back your name will be sons in and

your number four yeah it's like really i love it yes um all right well go buy the shirts we're doing it with nick so he gets some of the money as well sons and four is a lifestyle and uh we look forward to being the number one sons podcast we'll have you back on when the sons win the title there you go although play griffin we're taking a leave for that right what you get a ring yeah yeah you get a ring right i'd say you get yes absolutely you get as many rings as that guy was wearing watches that's what that's what what's the deal with that by the way what was and their hair cuts what was there uh they were rich big head no idea that is not a denver native that i'm aware of so these are hooligans that may be out of state out of place yeah this is like denver you gotta be

chill right menver yeah well yeah i mean you were calling them nugs i like that that's all that's just a great chill way to refer to the nuggets there you go yeah is it true about menver uh i'm sorry what do you mean by member like there's just a bunch of dudes a lot of men yes a lot of guests uh i would say in specific uh yeah i mean in some areas like lodo is like all bro there's a brodo so lower downtown is like all guys pretty much and like a lot of women don't go in that area just because of that i like that brodo we could hang out there yeah fuck yeah kings bro all right well nick thanks so much man and we'll talk soon thank you boys for sure see you see you man sons and four guy was brought to you by our great friends the chevy silverado

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okay let's wrap up the show we got a very special guest in studio this is three guests on one show Jay Cutler ever heard of him yes big fan uh he lives down the street from you i want him to come on bussing with the boys i can have to help me out with that and then we had sons and four guy sons and four the guy that beat up the Denver Nuggets fans oh you guys go buy a shirt right now barcel sports names ever but the biggest name we have is will Compton currently he's figuring it out with what team he wants to sign with next um free agency hasn't started right well i think will is just he he's in a very good position right now where he has his pick of whichever team he wants to join right that's right so i i mean

if you want to do like a commercial for why you should sign will Compton i mean right off the bat you're the only player in NFL history with 357 tackles one sack two force fumbles four fumble recoveries three interceptions and 12 past deflections and a podcast and a podcast and i appreciate that pft yeah you got a pretty good stats i think what you should do will we talked about this a couple weeks ago you should just get as fat as possible because it's very clear that mike rabel respects girth and he just respects mass he's just trying to build the the biggest football team of all time so if you put on like 30 pounds i think he'd be forced to sign you potentially i love your guys's view of coach rabel is it wrong no it's not wrong it's just

another view you know i mean he's the best yeah there's a thousand ways to skin a cat and you guys have your view yeah of him and i love it he's he's the best but i love how you think he's a guy's guy like it's just as easy as putting on 30 pounds and that's it rave's gonna sign correct i if i put on 30 pounds rave would probably sign me last year when he asked if i was ready to go he asked hey are you in shape or have you eaten too many rib eyes so if i gain weight i don't know if i don't know if i'll be going to tennessee but that's him just like busting balls he has to have something to back of his head like normal guys we say hi to each other he's like what's up fat ass yeah making no question there's you guys are not wrong about that one he's always got one

of the chamber on you how old are you 31 young 31 young 37 you're 27 you just turn 27 okay uh pft does that so you can do it how are you pft i'm 26 yeah oh you're younger than heck yeah what about the washington football team what's the deal there yeah bring the boy on can we not get a reunion going let's get the boy let's you know what sometimes you got to go backwards to go forwards go back to where it all started i agree are they doing nfl europe again i don't know are they going to do that yeah you can do that oh you're talking about go playing the league yeah yeah and i feel you're gonna need you to stop disrespecting me on the yak you talked about a practice squad and now you're like oh i always thought practice squad was a good deal and then i come on here you're

trying to introduce me i like i noticed i love getting big-catted by the way why what i do what you're like you know he's figuring it out your pft god bless him yeah he's great i hate the boys you got scratched by the cat that's what we're gonna do it we gotta do it all right no you are gonna get signed on the team i i actually i we had this conversation will and i had a conversation earlier today i and this probably says more about like my will to compete but i've always thought practice squad would be sick because like you get paid a hundred k and you just hang out in sweats and we'll even admit it that during when he's on practice squad watching football team he didn't even watch the games he just played grand theft auto on sunday that's sick that's like sounds

like a great job it's a solid job what do you mean by your will to compete like like i i would be i always swatch like if i'm watching a big moment in like a basketball game right i'm not like man i'd love to be out there like this would be my moment like i'd love to be the dude on the bench who's like damn let's get him next time guys good try yeah you don't like yeah you're not risking your body on sundays at least right that's one less day that you have to get injured you're just you know are you really going to get noticed if you know you suck at practice for one week yeah really oh really that's gonna get noticed that's that kind of scratches off a couple times oh uh mike shane a hand would uh would recognize me i probably just to keep our heads in it for having to practice

like three different positions a day but yeah you get you get cut off a bad week of practice squad what i think it goes back to is i've always said that like my dream job would to be uh working on a mlb coaching staff where i don't really have to do anything i just kind of hang out with the guys that would be a great life yeah just like fucking do a couple you know do a little towel whips every now and then like couple pranks like yo hey oh how's your wife like oh hey i'm here for you buddy yeah and then you towel up him in the dick and it's like ah just because even losses they don't matter as much right like you have to lose like 16 games in the mlb to have like one loss in the nfl right i think that would be a dream job i think i'd do pretty good at it just being one of the

guys in the locker room but never actually be asked to like perform or come through in any moment what he's describing is basically the job that we have now in media which is to just like hang out and talk to people and be friendly but we think that that exact job should occur in every field correct in sports mathematics science engineering you name it there's always be a guy that just like hangs out and makes everybody else feel cool about their jobs right i do agree with that you do you need it's essentially a glue guy hang out in a different in a different way i i think i would excel at that and i don't want to put you down will because i do think that you should get signed immediately like just look when you've gotten into games you've performed that all i see when i'm

watching football when will competence of the game i mentally circle you when you're on the field and you're always making a play now you guys don't win anything but you're still always out there making plays not putting down no no no no no gas this is already he already he already yeah so i think will comp the league is a better place when will comp then isn't it you can't tell the story of football without will comp or buses or buses yeah you're one of the old-time bus guys yeah i would agree with that i trust me i felt it since i said that's why i've kept my legs yeah that's why i'm kind of like i was so scared to ask him to adjust the mic to i was like hey do you play ping pong please do this for me do you not play ping pong no okay good answer good answer

tress way i would i am on record saying tress way is the best ping pong player in the nfl we need to get him in this office we need to have jake first are you are you are you the man are you the best one here well is that a real question are you the big swinging dick in this office holy shit what a question i want to see jake compete against tress way i want you to dominate the entire nfl too jake so you'd be yeah i mean he's your guy you'd definitely be rooting hard for jake oh yeah uh yes all the toly hank has questions so everyone go uh download busting with the boys it is will will's podcast do you have a co-host yeah um what is that taylor louin who did who said his name wrong and i don't know people

i i think it is tough if you know it's biz biz we had to give member when biz was here he knew you he was like yeah will compton i'm good friends of them and then we're like who's the other guy and he's like tyler which is good because rich eisen won't say my name when he talks about our podcast really he says taylor wants podcast from michigan oh they have like a little yeah they have like a little side no shake let's not say let's be real proud of michigan taylor does a great job as well so go check it out taylor and will in the bus busting with the boys uh so we asked our people to hit us up and give us questions about being in the nfl or questions about being a boy um what was it is that right take it that right yeah yeah so ask a boy question will what do you

have to say about de kwan jones actually causing the fumble against the choy this year on the one yard line instead of you seems like stolen valor is that true that's true he did he did you were you were credited i was credited at first but they switched it right after the game they switched it actually during the game and de kwan listen i gave him the credit right after the game i i tweeted i said the i gave him the credit and the next day he was just upset because he just knew that it would look like i got it and like everyone on twitter is just going to make it seem like i did it but i don't know what to do right i gave you credit but you should you should be honest like guy to guy here like you just start taking credit for more things if you want to stay in the nfl

like you should have kept the credit well i have the fumble recovery and okay and the plays right there you know what i mean yeah but did you cost anybody their fancy game like if somebody had will copton started a linebacker like your admission that you didn't cause that what are you got to i got the recovery i think that's true i think you would have gotten his hand got there right before my head did my head was still it was very accurate accurate head placement what do you have if he wasn't there would you have caused the fumble yes all right so i believe yours he did a great job though he did a great job you're taking credit for it no no no no my guy de kwan jones awesome player he's out in carolina now okay but de kwan if you're listening to this which i'm sure

you are because everyone listens to this podcast uh that is your credited fumble you made that play i just happened to fall on it i was trying to take it 99 to the house but nobody wanted to block for me hey will i noted your listed height at unl as six two while the titans listed as six one are you a lying be a fraud or c really under six feet like that height fraud pft just a weird shot a lot of weird shots in that question six two i yeah i'm six two okay for every coach in gm listening nice is that two and a half shoes or no shoes i'm six two right six two good answer who who has been your favorite six two who has been your favorite coach to play for and why is it bo palini also do you think frost can turn it around and how long is it going to take oh boy gbr what is gbr

being go big red go big red raska bo palini yeah bo bo is my favorite coach i would i would i was going to say i would die for that man but i wouldn't go that far um bo's the best dude scott frost his leash is getting shorter we've talked about it um i'm rooting for i mean obviously i'm rooting for him but i how can you find a much better coach for the job than scott frost coming out of ucf what he did at ucf right gold yeah gold prodigal son yeah he's part of the 90s i know being there like nebraska lives in the 90s championship world they want it to be back in the 90s like we were 10 and 4 like every year but it was never good enough obviously we had some painful losses big 10 championship game was the most 70 to 70 do we put up 70 yeah the most pain damn three

running also when melvin gordon had like 450 yards against i was not part of that one oh okay melvin gordon had over 200 james white had over 200 and um money ball had over 200 it was a bad hard to do but scott man like you got a guy in there that everybody wanted he is a very good coach it's just tough man i think we made a bad move going to the big 10 i agree with you there why do you think we did well i just think that you have a recruiting base and you kind of lose what you were now you have to compete against you know iowa and this you know there's not a ton of talent in some of those states there's not a ton of talent within nebraska also i read this really long article that was very good about nebraska kind of lost their way because

they lost their ability to you know the 90s nebraska teams were great because of like the walk-ons and building them up and making them a five-year program and finding the hidden gems within nebraska and they basically the whole article was like like look at a guy like danie woodhead like the fact that danie woodhead wasn't like a fifth year like you know grind it out star at the university of braska means they kind of lost what they were what their ammo was i mean that's that's one example i i like i under i like i see the validity in that but also it's like the way recruiting is now like you can go to a smaller school and be a starter and go to the league now yeah back then you're you're finding nebraska versus oklahoma mechkin wisconsin like all this it was it was

yeah the the the crux of it was the coach the coach and i sure scott frost has kind of rectified this a little bit because he's from nebraska but the coaches that came after like the 90s they didn't have the same uh like a pipeline with the high schools and it didn't mean as much to be like it used to be if you're a kid in nebraska you play for nebraska no matter what and like you go there and you get better in the weightlifting program that might have been a steroids program whatever i'm not gonna say allegedly it meant something and they kind of lost their way there but it's a tough fucking like not to crack for nebraska to come out i i think the recruiting stuff that you were hitting on is is where it's at because like you have texas right like when we're in the big 12

you could sit in a kid's living room right and say and tell the parents you're gonna get to watch your kid play two to four times a year i mean you got baler texas texas texas texas a and m they were we were all in the big 12 and then you make the longest trip to nebraska maybe see their kid play you know that extra time of year now you don't have that you're not playing in texas right how you gonna get these texas kids like their family's not gonna you know send their kid to nebraska when that's like the farthest trip for them and now your demographic for recruiting is like the northeast where why would you go all the way out to nebraska when you can just stay close and go to like oh how state was in michigan michigan crushes that yeah right that's what i'm saying yeah even michigan

some of these teams that aren't as good still in the big 10 but why would you go much farther and go all the way out to nebraska so i just feel like we kind of i do love those 90s nebraska teams i do want nebraska to be good again i know people don't think i'm being like real when i say that but i think it would be great for we almost got we almost got dugs there last year yeah it would be great for college football yeah it'd be fun i do man i do miss it i wish we were more competitive yeah i think we will be i'm still holding our hope there we go we so right now if you could pull if you pull like the escape lever you go back to the big 12 yeah 100 yeah if they could make equivalent money in some other job how many players do you think would still choose to play in the

nfl just thinking of taylor luan being getting paid 20 million dollars a year to be used car salesman or erin rogers quitting to start a blowjob podcast and go to spotify yeah that's true yeah i mean i would assume that a lot of players would not play in the nfl would you no you don't love football yeah i mean hang on hang on hang on let me back six two i do it for free i mean if you could yeah i mean if you made the same amount of money doing whatever you wanted to do like you would i would retire from football sooner because i would still play football i love football yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah you love playing games that's what you gotta say like i love being out there on sunday

practice is a competitor man yes love being a lunch pail guy yeah well loved watching you play for washington i always wanted to know this answer is this pfd perspective back in the bruce allen washington days did you believe the culture was damn good or was bruce allen mental for saying that love to hear pft's and put on this from fans perspective as well yeah i mean sure you can watch that clip when he says the culture is damn good but our culture wasn't damn good it just is i mean it just is what it is it wasn't that great you know it top floor bottom floor all of it it wasn't you know it wasn't that good people have read stories people see all the all the legal stuff going on right now where there's smoke there's fire and we it wasn't the best culture

that's pretty much from a fan perspective like yeah dan snider as long as he's in charge it's going to be tough because he has to stay out of his own way and he's not really able to do that and uh when bruce allen was there was like he was basically a puppy on dan snider's lab and and would do whatever he told him same thing with vini serato dan snider like attracts guys like that i think the new regime in washington is a lot better i think that they have changed a lot of stuff around i just don't know like it's just a matter of time before snider he's like he can't stay away he can't stay out of his own way for that long well if you were a player on the on the washington football team when it pits you off that you didn't have a mascot if i was what follow up

yeah this is a follow up also ps if you were on the washington football team wouldn't bother you as a player that you don't have a mascot and you're just a football team not really yeah i mean come on hang yeah come on come on we're a football team we play football i think it's actually yo hey so so this is a good little story here i don't know if my fiancee minds me telling this or not but we actually had a pi show up at our house not too long ago on behalf of dan why yeah uh all the stuff going on charo my fiancee she was a cheerleader so all the stuff that was coming out on the washington football team cheerleaders how they've kind of clean house and a lot of that stuff um and you know better you were a player yeah and she was a cheerleader isn't that against

law it's against the rules not not for the player it is for the cheerleader but we didn't date while she was a cheerleader gotcha she was on the other side so it sounds like dan cider was smart to hire after your ass well the the belief is i i love the i love the little joke right there but the belief is like all the stuff that they're coming after dan for with all the cheerleader stuff from what i hear rumor all speculation all alleged this is incredible that um it was bruce coming after him so now he's trying to you know was wanting to come after dan's wanting to come after bruce sends a pi now that's all speculation sounds like a great culture yeah so that's what i'm saying basically what bruce alan's been doing for the last couple years he's like starting blogs

over in india publishing his own accusations against dan cider like throwing the worst possible allegations at him like he was flying on epstein's plane and things like that but it's bruce alan he like started a blog and he's trying to fuck dan cider over basically it's not the sign of a team that had good culture when they were working together if after they split up you've got one accusing the other being a pedophile yeah that's that's a pretty pretty key moment and just basically the washington football team is like succession hey it's like the world's dumbest episode of succession quick that's a great show by the way in this room we all work together if any of us ever leaves we promise not to call each other pedophiles no no what never i'm never going

to call anybody in this room so you say yeah to the promise i do you say are you promising that i would never call you guys pedophiles yeah i don't know man this wow statistically takes one to no one that's where you wanted to go with that i mean that's just where we ended up i don't i never know where i'm going with any he said wow i mean i don't know i don't know everybody in here like that wow but to wrap things up you would go back to the washington football team if they gave you contract right oh absolutely under cover yeah yeah money's money's still great yeah yeah yeah and i i mean i loved i love that locker room obviously it's not the same locker room but yeah i mean there's a lot of there's a lot of moving parts in an organization to make a

a culture bad yeah absolutely i would play for the boys again all right last one will what would your reaction be if hypothetically pft was the kicker while you were on the titans but doubled going to 30 yard yarder usually in his wheelhouse to lose a game do kickers who lost the game get bullied in the locker room and if so who's the most brutal towards them oh good question i'll just say like right off the bat if that were to ever happen you can kill me like just honestly going to the locker room he's walking straight to his car and you can just that's a little extreme you can execute me that's extreme that's extreme you know i'd say that on youtube yeah so you're saying like just missing a uh missing a game winning kick sounds like a double you want that

double doing yeah never heard of it well i know it's never gonna happen this is one of the times where i can actually like make a promise knowing that i'll never have to fulfill it yeah i mean it would be uh it'd be tough but does the kicker get chirped in the locker room yeah no not really but the kicker knows he knows based off the vibe like uh like uh deaths on hopkins we were in london one year and we tied and he missed an easy kick dude i mean we should have won that game you might remember um and it was like you didn't know whether like should we be happy i mean we didn't really lose the game the kicker pretty much missed missed the easy kick and uh you know he the kickers those dudes beat themselves up heavy so you don't want to add onto it yeah you

know they feel it like of course you're mad but you're also thinking about the plays you probably could have made i know that's a way more of a political answer than probably what the the listeners would want but like you know you're thinking about plays you miss as well and you know the whole spiel where it's a team game not one play wins or loses the game does anyone make a joke because like as as glue guy guy hanging out in the locker room i would i would come in after you know knowing i'm not playing i'm just part of the coaching staff i'd wait a nice beat of silence and be like sick kick bro and then that breaks the ice everyone's like ha ha yeah we did lose that game the kicker's still ready to you know do a pft so i'm like off himself yeah well

what about that was it a monday night you kind of give a nice little ass lovey that's tough man yeah keep your head up yeah you get another chance are you step but probably not step over him to offer him a hand up off the ground as you're stepping over yeah that sort of thing yeah yeah so what about uh what about that money night game didn't the kicker miss like four field goals which money night game was it this year oh the titans kicker remember this kicker yeah when they when uh was it gazowski yeah gazowski no he kept on missing the short ones and hitting the long one yeah yeah boys look we all know what happens when you play football for a while right you lose a little you lose a little savvy up top oh okay so you don't i can't remember what game you're talking

about i know there was a game where he missed one um a couple of us hugged him and he ends up making the game winner yeah that's the one so your numbers we're doing lottery numbers to end the show you you want to pick one 55 do i get up let me put these no no just pick a number let me put these back in so everything's in say 18 garret you want to pick a number 26 what's your number pick a number 51 51 six okay is that your is that your number 51 you guys start calling yourself area 51 it's no fly zone across the middle hey buddy all right 99 i don't have that kind of confidence 46 six

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