Pardon My Take - Jeff Saturday, Week 15 Picks And Previews, And The Chargers Quit On Life

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

The Chargers have quit and we have a Mark Davis theory about Thursday Night Football (00:00:00-00:11:29). We then get into Week 15 picks and preview and it was a loopy one taking detours to talk about PFT's facial hair, a 105 year old Bengals fan, the Cowboys tackling dummies and more (00:11:29-01:41:44). Fantasy Fuccbois (01:41:44-01:45:26). Jeff Saturday joins the show to talk about the NFL, playing with Peyton Manning, team defense and fixes for the Lions and Eagles, sweaty asses and more (01:45:26-02:28:07). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week (02:28:07-02:36:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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He might be fired overnight. He might be fired right after this game because we're taping the rare taping in the third quarter of Thursday night football. It is 42 to zero the Las Vegas Raiders versus the Los Angeles Chargers PFT. He's gone. He has to be gone right now. Either that or we learned today that maybe the Minnesota Vikings defense is just awesome for holding the the Raiders scoreless for an entire game. But this is this is like as bad a performance as I've ever seen. And I'm a fan of the Washington football team Redskins commanders.

Like I've seen teams quit before. Fick it. You've seen teams quit before. This is this is quitter. This is quite quitting right now. They're just not even playing anymore. Brandon Staley. I guess there's worse places to be fired than Las Vegas. True.

Seems like if you get fired in Vegas, at least do it before I have to go to bed, wake up early, get on a flight back the next day. Like, just tell me right now, you get a free night in Vegas, you've got checks coming in, you're going to get paid for the next several years no matter what. Just let the boys have a fun night in Vegas. I actually think if he got fired in Vegas, I think you could probably interview for the Raiders job tomorrow and be like, Mark Davis, I don't know if you know this, but I went to the playoffs last year.

Like, did we play you last night? No, no, that was a different guy. Don't worry about it. You bring up an interesting point, Peacat. What if there's a little handshake deal going on right now between Mark Davis and Brandon Staley? Like, I want to hire you as my next coach as a show of good faith. Yeah. Just let us beat the fuck out of you for a full game. If you go along with that, then you can just stay.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll make that deal. I'll unload on the Raiders and I'll get to go to P.F. Changs for life. There you go. So Mark Davis puts a fuckload of money on the Raiders and I'll get to go to P F Changs for life. There you go. So Mark Davis puts a fuckload of money on the Raiders to cover tonight. Brandon Staley, you'll be my next coach. He then has enough money to pay off John Gruden. Yes. And Josh McDaniels.

And then he's got a little bit of money. And there's some clown shit going on right now. The Raiders just did a trickeration play for another touchdown to Devonte Adams. It's, it's there. They're, they're, I've never seen a team quit as much as the charges are quitting right now. I know Justin Herbert's out, but this is like a full on quit. It was, it was so bad that they were showing, I think it was who's tattoos. Was it Max Max Crosby's tattoo? I like with like 10 minutes left in the second quarter, Alan Kirk were already in garbage time. Like they started burning their garbage time material.

So goddamn fast. I'm actually worried for out like, I don't know what I don't know what he's saying this fourth quarter. That might be the only reason that you need. He shouldn't even be on the broadcast anymore. Let let Al go out to the steak house. Let him start with the Scotch. We don't need announcers anymore in this game.

I think just, just having a close up of Brandon's daily, we don't even need to watch the game. Yeah. Let's just watch Brandon's daily for the rest of this game. It, it's crazy. And guess what? The other thing we buried the lead here, uh, PFT, you were up first with Shake Shack. So Raiders minus two and a half. I'm going to call

it right now. I think we can call it 49 nothing. Yeah, I'll allow that. We'll call it. Yeah, you were you, you, I tweeted like I was like, great job. PFT. Thanks. PFT. Thanks, Shake Shack. And you're like, don't moush it. It's like, it was 20, nothing at the time. I think the Raiders, the chargers, I quit so fast in this game. It was like almost instantly and Max is really enjoying the Shake Shack right now. He's a big boy. That's a big sandwich for a big boy takes it takes a lot of

food to fill my big boys build big belly up. And yes, that Shake Shacks to the trick. Listen, if for nothing else, I'd like to be remembered as the man that got free chicken sandwiches for America. Yes. So, so starting Monday, free chicken shacks on PFT because he got Raiders, but we have

more coming. I'm picking the Lions minus three and a half. Yeah, I got a good line for this for this deal. Everyone, you know, don't worry about it. Let's try to get the Lions minus three and a half. If that one hits free bacon cheese fries on top of the chicken shacks on Monday, and Hank, what's your Sunday pick? Rams. Rams minus six and a half, and that will be a free classic shake on top of this.

We're trying to go three and a half for the people. If all of those hit, you get all three, but right now, PFT's got you the free chicken shacks starting Monday. So it's the three for free promotion. You're welcome, everyone. Lunch just got decided on Monday because the Raiders want the charger. So a couple of other things about this game, shout out Shake Shack, Shake Shack cam with Max. So root for the Lions, root for the Rams, and then we get all three on Monday, which we we're going going to do boys, right? Our Monday lunches planned on the set. We had, we had some of those chicken sandwiches today. They were so good. Uh, and thank you for shake, Jack for bringing them by and the woman who brought them by. That was, it was like, Oh, free, free chicken jacks. Great. Yeah. She was fast. So yeah, and they are really, really good chicken sandwiches. Yes. Uh, so a couple of things, PFT. I have

a couple of questions for you. First, so Aino Connell didn't throw that touchdown pass. Correct. No, they should have. These are the games that like just go for records. Like Aino Connell had four touchdown passes in the first half. The record is seven, which is tied by a bunch of people. These are the gate. Like the everyone's been in this game in Madden or like college football, like just go for records. I want to see it get so much worse if it's going to be a bad game. I want the worst things to possibly happen. So yeah, I want the charges to keep fumbling.

I want the Raiders to keep doing fuck shit on offense. I want Adonoconl to throw for 10 touchdowns. I want Mark Davis to come down on the sideline shirtless, just dancing around. I want Brandon Staley to get like assaulted by his own team. I want a complete shit show if this is off the rails like this. Give everything to us. So my question, the other question I had for you, PFT is I got old takes exposed tonight.

Our friend, old takes exposed, is going back for Brandon Staley tweets. And I said, I think it was that press conference where Brandon Staley was talking about his like, fourth down, you know, thoughts like I want to be aggressive. And I was like, Chargers, you know, got it right with Brandon Staley. He is from 2021.

Brandon Staley was a good coach for a year. His brain melted, something happened in the last two years where everything changed. But remember when Brandon Staley came on the scene, like he was a breath of fresh air. We had him on this show. I was, I was jealous of the chargers. Everything. So, so I guess my question is this is Brandon Staley a bad coach or did the chargers just get into his brain? Like poison. I think he's a great coach right now because they're tied seven seven and a second half. the charge is a score touchdown. So don't write, don't write the charges ahead of me. It's insane.

Don't write saying. I get that. I hate it. I streaming streaming has somehow made it so that everyone in America watches games at different times. Yeah. Only goes one house that's the exact same. There should be one.

There should be one like how they have Grinich meantime and like big Ben is the clock that everybody goes off There should be one computer that's playing the game and that's like this is the the actual time try to sync up as close as possible to it But yeah, the chargers are now seven seven second half so don't write them off just yet Brands saline mounting a furious comeback, but he was a good head coach Like don't let don't let what's happened recently for you. He was a good coach that first year. But always has talked about him, though, is his defense, which is weird. He's a, he's a defensive coach. And he, his defenses are always in the bottom like five of the NFL. If that's some bad injury, luck, more, I will say that the chargers seem to be more injured than any other franchise, but with maybe the exception of the Ravens.

But they always get guys like banged around. They never have their best players out there. But Brandon Staley is not a good off, he's not a good defensive coach at all. The fourth down thing, that is great if you're winning, but if your defense is such shit that you don't even have an opportunity to flex your fourth down analytics muscles,

then it's a big issue. Plus, really, you could say, brand stale is set the analytics community back like 40 years. Yeah. Because he's known as the analytics poster boy, the wonder kid of the analytics movement. And the fact that his team's have fallen apart so terribly. He really makes you think like, I don't want my head coach ever look at a number again. Yes, you're absolutely right. He's ruined it for everyone else.

This game is so bad though, it's so bad. It is giving me flashbacks. You mentioned at the start PFT that we've seen this before for our teams. It gave me a flashback that Hank's gonna have a chuckle for. Remember that, Hank? I'm pretty sure the Packers were up 42 nothing on the Bears, and it was like Aaron Rodgers was playing a video game, and I was sitting in a hotel room in Arizona, and Dave and Hank

were with me, and they just sat next to me and just laughed in my face for an entire half. There's been some bad ones. This is, you know, you just got to regroup. Maybe you can stick, we'll get hot in a second half. And then you can trade them to someone for like a third round pick. Well, that's the thing.

You can't even, you can't even say we should take our starters out because neither team really has starters that they're playing right now. Right. It's great. Like, eight in an O'Connell, he's gonna stay in the game. Although they keep showing eight in an O'Connell, doesn't he look a little bit like a really bad

video game rendition of Derek Carr? He's like, they don't get the pixels just exactly right. And then they've got Eastern stick and what are you gonna do? Sit Eastern stick down, put Max Duggan in. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just like, it's, I don't know what you do. I don't know what you do.

So it's a shit show for the charges right now. It's an absolute shit show. Yeah, put in Max Duggan. If I were a player, I'd want not want to come out. I'd want all the stats. Yeah, although like the way the chargers are playing, that's a lot of, you probably fumbled a ball a lot. Everyone's fumbling on the chargers. They, they should just call it a game. They should just a lot of rule it. Say mercy rule, take your ball, go home, shut up the Indian at Pacers.ors it's just there's no point in continuing this yeah yeah it's uh... it's it's bad bad bad i had one other thing before we kick it to ourselves

and we're gonna we're gonna talk all the games on uh... saturday and sunday and Sunday, I had some breaking moves. Okay, so Travis Kelsey was noticeably absent during Taylor Swift's 34th birthday celebration in New York City. This is from entertainment now, but for a good reason. A source tells ET that he remains committed to playing his best and doing his best on and off the field. The team practices are critical, mandatory to attend, and something he takes very seriously. So it's no surprise he stayed in Kansas City

ahead of this weekend's game. Selfish, selfish boyfriend. This is, I tell her to serve somebody that will take, that will make time for her. The this is, um, I really, I really wish I could talk to the author who, who spent all day trying to find sources, uh, to, to see if practices are mandatory. Be like, wait, so could he have skipped it? Could he have gone to the party?

Like, I'm going to double check this. Let's, let's really find out. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, he, he probably could have, it's another boyfriend that won't miss work for whatever. She puts him first. She shows up all the time to his games. He can't make time to visit her.

I did see a picture of her birthday party. So I've got a picture right here. She got a big, it looks like a cookie cake. And in the background, there's a guy that looks a whole lot like Jeff Darlington back there. Oh, I don't know if I don't know what's going on. I've been putting the pieces together with Jeff.

She has a thing for him. I don't know if Jeff's swooping in on Travis Kelsey. Jeff and Taylor sitting in a tree. By the way, the Chargers team account, I like this. They just posted the touchdown and just said we scored period. All lowercase. I like it. Yeah. Like lean into it. This is a shit show. Everyone should have fun with this. I know people like when these games happen, it just becomes a roast. Let's just have fun with it. Like, yeah, have it. Just do weird shit. Dude, there's actually a perfect time for my fake

punk, punk. I like that. Yeah, the fake punk punk would be good. No one would see the fake punk punk coming. Break out the downfield ladders. Yes. We really get experimental with it. I, the more I think about it, it's not, it's not the craziest thing that we've ever said. That Brandon Staley is giving this game to Mark Davis.

Yeah. No, I, I, it will, if he was able to get some action on it, he could pay off all his debts and then start fresh and Brandon Taylor would be like, listen, I'm such a good coach. I will make sure this game is never in doubt that you win. Like you will never even have to sweat like for a second this game. That's how good of a coach I am. Yeah.

You think he could you think if a coach was good enough, they could give you the final score of let's just say 55 to seven and hit it perfectly It'd be pretty tough that would be like a perfect perfect score be pretty tough, but Maybe brand sale is that good. He's a savant. Oh, Chargers are starting to come back This would be the funniest thing ever. It actually someone had a perfect tweet. I can't remember who it was. I apologize, but they're like this. This won't be a real Chargers game until they tie it 42, 42, and then lose on a safety.

Yeah. So yes, that's always in play with the Chargers. That was good. Should we should we talk a little bit about the Yannis ball controversy? Yeah, sure. The Pacers in the box have a, have a rivalry now talking about getting their licks in and everything. Yeah, it's good.

This is good for basketball. Yannis dropped 64, I believe. And the Pacers took the game ball because Oscar Toshiba had his first point. He scored a point and they're like, we need to save this ball for him. And then Yannis stormed into the locker room, like sprinted into the locker room to try to get the game ball back. My question is,

wait, yeah, the best part is he had the game ball. What do you mean? So a worldwide wild I think broke it down. I'm pretty sure the bucks trainer got the ball that he had that last dunk from so he had the actual game ball. He just didn't see it. Oh, so it was a miss it is misunderstanding. Yeah, like they had the original game ball and I think the Pacers then took the next ball or like a ball around there. And so the whole thing started and it was like they actually had the ball the whole time. Well, that was going to be my question is, aren't, isn't there more than one ball? There is more than well, no. It's just one ball. There is just one ball, but you almost got me there.

Just one ball. Actually, no, it was a serious question because in, in football, you've got a bunch of different game balls and baseball. There is, obviously, tons of them. But in basketball, do they, do they just keep the ball for as long as it stays relatively inflated? I know they have backup balls. The pictures of the hallway is so funny. Like Yannis being like held back and everything. So I'm watching right now.

It's a complete misunderstanding. The game ends and the box trainer literally runs right out and gets the ball from the wrath, the original game ball. Yannis is kind of a psycho, huh? That's so good. I didn't know he had that in him. He always seems like a mild mannered guy, has fun with the media.

Like what a psycho to go, try to storm into the locker room to steal a ball. He needs his ball. Give me the ball. What's he gonna do with that ball? He basically was no different than like a Labrador. They're like, I need my ball back. Give me the ball. What's he gonna do with that ball? He basically was no different than like a Labrador. They're like, I need my ball back. Give me my ball.

Just like completely focused on the thing. They should, my theory was they should cut the ball in half and give half of it to Oscar, half of it to Janice and then see which one says, no, don't cut the ball in half. I'd rather see the full ball go to the other person than you destroy it and split it between us. Yes. I mean, let's do it. It's worked in Biblical times. Which one is that? Solomon. Solomon. Which one of Samson's is the hair, right? The hair. The hair thing. Yeah. Yeah. We also have an into or long national nightmare. We know what

what Shohei Otoni's dog's name is. Oh, I didn't say yes. I got a very important push notification from the athletic on that one. His dog's name is hangingly pulled this up, so I don't mispronounce it. His dog's name is Decoi, but in Japanese, I think it's decopin. And that means to flick one's forehead. So he named his dog Boop.

Ooh! Well, no, Flick is not a Boop. I think like Flick tap probably the same thing. Yeah. Chohay is gonna be a villain now, by the way. Because I'm pretty sure the Dodgers have traded for a glass now from the raise, and they have like all this money to operate. Chohay is gonna be hated if the Dod and they have like all this money to operate.

Shohei's going to be hated if the Dodgers win like 120 games in the world series. Oh, he's going to be hated. And for sure, like we, we hate everybody that's successful. That's kind of what we do. But the flip side is what's going to be very funny because it's more realistic to happen. Is the Dodgers are going to win 120 and then get bounced into five game series and everyone's going to be like the playoff structures wrong. The format's off, yeah. I actually look, I'm looking forward to that moment. Well, that's gotta be a great day. That would rock if that's what happens. But if they win like four world series in a row, then everyone's gonna be like, fuck this, break up the LA Dodgers.

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Boys. Week 15. We're in the fourth quarter of the football season. Well, here's a thing, PFT. We have this discussion. We cherish it. The minute Saturday football shows up, it's, it's usually like in your head, you're like, Oh, yeah, NFL Saturday. I love NFL Saturday, but it is a Pavlovian response of like, I shouldn't be watching this NFL Saturday. I should be doing holiday shopping. To me,

it's more like you get a football weekend of NFL. Yeah, which is nice. Like the NFL and bull game. For their credit, they stay off Saturdays for the most part until college football is over. They stay off Fridays for the kids that are playing high school football. Yup.

But then once college football goes away for the most part, they're like, okay, let's fucking just take over the entire weekend. Yup. And so we go three Saturday, seven early Sunday, three late Sunday night, Monday night, should have given us two Monday nights. Did you see that next year,

or maybe not next year, but they just announced that they're gonna start doing eight games overseas. Eight in a year. I know this is, I say, I love this. It's a lot of international games. It's America's game.

Again, we are, we are the only ones I think talking about this they are trying Like damn hell to get a Super Bowl overseas and we have to stop it. So Let's all not watch the first quarter next year of all these games. So yeah first quarter Ma maybe no pregame. No pregame. I'm not watching any pregame in the Brazil game. We're probably ill Yeah, there's a Brazil game. Come on. Yes, there's a Brady out of retirement. Woo back, Giselle. I like that idea. Bellicitorial. Get on that. Bellicic loves big asses. Yep. That's facts down there. We're about two years away. I'd say from our first Saudi Arabia game. Yeah. Probably the, I would imagine the bills

would be in that. That will be that will be a prime tournament. That will be a private game though. Yeah. No one can watch pay per view. It would just be for for some You know, Sultan son. It'll just be for MBS and yeah, yeah, he'll just be hanging out. All right, so let's get into the games week 15 We're gonna this is the week what like last week was crazy because we had a lot of bad teams on paper beat good teams And win games, but this is the week. I think that we're gonna get a very clear Here is what the playoffs their shrink. They're gonna shrink down to maybe eight teams instead of right now in the AFC. There's like 11 teams, NFC, there's eight or nine teams. Once we get through this weekend, I think it's going to be pretty clear who's going to be most likely in the playoffs because it's all in

the three games left. There's a great graphic out there of it. Visualizes it for you. I love that of visualizations because I'm dumb. I need a chart to tell me what's going to happen. It shows you how much your chances improve if you win this weekend versus how much they decrease if you win this weekend. So it looks like the Broncos have the most to gain this weekend with a win. And there's some teams at the top that obviously doesn't really matter or not. I'd say Broncos, Packers, Bucks. That's going to be a good game, the Bucks and Tampa Bay.

Yeah. Because whoever wins that one, I think you should be in a good spot. So about like 75% or more. I like that you said that the visual stuff because that is one of the greatest cop outs in the world being like, I'm more of a visual learner. It's essentially saying, I don't want to hear you talk anymore. I also like, it's a close neighbor of, you know what, I have time blindness.

So that's why I'm not, it's a disability that I have. Yeah, that's why I'm not ever on time. It has nothing to do with the fact that I was playing Candy Crush while I was taking a ship for 45 minutes where I should've been getting ready. Definitely not, but I will look at any chart and I'll pretend to understand a chart, but if you put numbers in front of me,

then I'm like, this is, it's too close to math. Yes, okay, first like, this is it's too close to math. Yes. Okay. First game Saturday afternoon Vikings Bengals this game is actually kind of a fun game because we have the backup bowl Jake Browning has been playing well Verse Nick Mullins Josh Dobbs is now QB3 Probably for the better probably for the better the Josh jobs. It was fun I think that if you want to tell the story, the Josh jobs. It was fun. I think that if you want to tell the story of the 2023 season,

you can't leave out Josh jobs, but it was time. I was time to move on. I would say, I would put him at QB2 because if something happens to Moans and he gets hurt, Josh jobs might be good coming in his back up. But they did not. But they did. But they did. But this game is fun to me because it is two backup quarterbacks. So you say on paper, ooh, that's

kind of gross. But I would argue that the Bengals and the Vikings are top five in terms of weapons on either side. So the backup quarterbacks are set up pretty well. Justin Jefferson's back. So Justin Jefferson, Jordan, Addison andison and Hockinson and then on the other side, you know, T Higgins, Boyd, Jamar Chase, Joe Mixin, and this new guy Chase Brown's brown. He was on the IR. Yeah. Yeah. The season. Yeah. New guy to this season.

Fastest fuck. Yes. A new name that everybody should know. Yes. Uh, yeah, talk to us about this game. What are you thinking? Okay. So is Jake Browning? Is he really a backup at this point?

Because I feel like Jake Browning has played his way into being like This team has a chance. This team has a chance. I think the I think the Bengals actually have a chance They could make some noise in the playoffs. How about that? I don't think that they have a chance to win the Super Bowl I but I I could see them winning a playoff game with Jake Browning I'm at the point now with the AFC that I Everything's on the table because everyone's gotten injured and no team has looked dominant that it is going to be the most wide open AFC playoffs. And when I say that,

it's probably gonna be the chiefs getting the one seed somehow. I kinda like the Vikings in this game though. And I like them because Brian Forrest, we touched on it on Sunday that he is doing stuff that people can't even figure out with his defense. Zone blitz is just, you know, multiples.

You gotta say multiples when you talk about this stuff. It's doing a lot of multiples. You got guys at every level. Every single level. So yeah, I think that this is going to be Jake Browning's first test, true test, because the cults and the jaguars aren't great defenses. The Vikings have been playing like a great defense. That's gonna be tough and you're getting points.

Yeah, I kind of like the Vikings in this game. Probably gonna be confusing for Jake Brown. But counterpoint, it's a Jake Browning revenge game. It is true. He almost quit football. So he was actually think the story was he was like driving to go coach high school football when he took one more shot. So with the bank. Thank God he did. He was actually think the story was he was like driving to go coach high school football when he took one more shot.

So with the bank thank God he did. Yes. This is also a big game for one particular Bengals fan. Florence Hackman, she goes by flow. Okay. She's turning 105 years old on Saturday. Okay. And she's celebrating with her three favorite things this girl can party.

Firefighters watching football and whiskey. She's drinking fireball, having a bunch of firefighters over to Berkthayk, she's horning for firemen. Wait, how old is she? And watching the bank. She's turns, she turns 105 years old on Saturday. Oh yeah. And she's having a, let me see a picture. Okay, I'll show you a picture. You want to see it? Thank you. I put on the bonclist. Florence Hackman. When are we doing the bonclist? We do it next week. It's the end of the year. I don't think Hank's It's not ready. That was it not ready. Tell me she doesn't look good for 105. Oh, she's hot She's real hot. Lawrence Hackman having a big firefighter whiskey party drinking fireball. Yeah, this is a party girl right here

Florence and root for bangles. Don't make a lot of Florence is anything. I'm rooting for this floor. I know what would do the bonclest one No, no, you cannot save it for your set. I'm I'm rooting for this floor. I know what would do the bonclist one No, no, you cannot save it for your set. I'm going to know that's bullshit You're robbing the people the bonclist the bonclist was a all-time moment last year and it will be an all-time moment No, I need fucking materials. No, you could that's not you can't do that the bonclist Make your own Boxless buddy. No the bonclist you can replay you know what you could know here's what you can replay it on the show after I do it No, no, you can replay it on that you can do a visual bonk list in the in the set That's fair. So yeah Hank how much cross AWL's tell Hank to release the bonklist tweet him and say

I'll release the bonklist out no, but you have to do it on the show. I will no I will this is bullshit How much crossover is there between the bonk list and the no fly list Hank? That's just That's a good one. You're picking up when I'm putting down. Yeah, well you're you're fucking Jeff Nidu. I got it. Oh There you go Jake You will figure out something to do, but I will help make you, you know what, what if I do this? Okay, you release the bonk list,

and I will make you a slideshow for the show with the bonk list. Deal? I'll make you a slideshow. We have to be very careful about what we say to Hank over the course of the next. I know, and I have to be farming. Ever everything is just gonna,

well, I'm not gonna do that now. I'll put that in the... Yeah, he's just doing future Hank. He's not gonna talk that now. I'll put that in there. Yeah, he is just doing future hank. He's just far, he's not gonna talk for the next, like, month and a half. Yeah. Save it for the show. He's not even talking like that.

Oh, every word that he uses right now is wasted. That could be in my set. I am an hour to do. Okay. It's the perfect, that's a perfect, perfect time for it. Actually, what about all the people that go to the show that aren't part of my take fans that are going there for a nice evening of comedy,

and all of a sudden you're doing this very inside joke about the bonks. All right, I'll do it at the end. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day.

They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. They're not going on this day. Oh, you just spilled on yourself. You're two for two.

Two for two. Yep. Two for two in the last shows. Spilling Jake, remind us when we go to Vegas, when we PFT and I need to buy somewhere between, I'm going to say a thousand and two thousand tomatoes that we can pass out to the crowd. Just full tomatoes. Yeah. Yeah. There'll be a second. That's what it is. Well, I mean, you should, if you're doing bad You should get tomatoes thrown at you or or I'll start throwing them back. Oh, I'll bring a fuck. Here's done Here's a here's a fun compromise. I'll do no tomatoes. You can't do the bonkless. No fine

All right tomatoes on I if you don't think I'm throwing them back out directly at you and I'm not gonna throw them Other people are gonna throw them you can't throw them at me. I will okay. Well, I'm not even gonna him. Other people are gonna throw him. You can't throw him at me. I will. Okay. Well, I'm not even gonna be there. Speaking of reminders, happy yogic day. 15th. Respect yogic. Every other month now. Okay.

That's too much of a... I was just following you guys. I'm not ready. Did we do that following you guys? No, you were. You were. That didn't count for this month because we just... We just respected yogic last week.

I was gonna say tennis ball gun. I just didn't say tennis ball. I'm not gonna bring a gun. That was a little no you said gun. Yeah, we'll clip that and send us the FBI. We got it. By the way, we have a bad ratings if you murder our audience. This has been a long week. We've we've been in the office a lot. This we got full on goofy Hank today, which is my favorite Hank. He's goofy brain. Also, if you're in Las Vegas, I'm pretty sure that Nevada

is a standard standard ground state., if you're in Las Vegas, I'm pretty sure that Nevada is a standard ground state. So if Hank does have a gun, you're welcome to produce your own firearm. Yup, that's a fact. All right, nerd nugget. In the 14 meetings between the Vikings and Bengals, the road team has won just one time. The series has tied 7-7,

but the Bengals lead 7-1 since an ADI, while the Vikings are 6-0 in Minnesota. Okay, this is to decide the ultimate NFL rivalry. The Vikings are the bangles. That's that means nothing. Home teams won 13 of 14. I mean, the ones last time they played four years ago. Probably.

Yeah. These two teams don't like each other very much. Yep. Well, no, they actually like them a lot when they come visit. True. Because they win. Yeah. All right, Steelers at Colts, Next Game.

I'm going off vibes in this game, PFT. I got stats for some games. This one's a vibes game. I got some stats for this one. Okay, you wanna go stats and then I'll go vibes? That's the Colts are six and 26 against the Steelers all time. Ooh, Ursa tweeted that out himself. He's thinking about it, he's thinking about it hard.

He does have the power to open up the roof, which is probably the one piece of power that Ursa has to affect the game It's only gonna be 50 degrees. You can bring a gun. We might get yeah, you could well, I don't know if he's legally allowed as His charges But it's gonna be 50 degrees outside the roof could be open and indie this weekend So that's what I'm hoping for another stat TJ what has been cleared by an independent neurologist Probably in Pittsburgh, probably

with a terrible towel framed above his medical degree. Wait, no, the Steelers have never done anything with bad doctors on the team, right? They've never done that. Yeah. Was it, was this, uh, toe to truth? Toad to truth. Toad to truth. Because that guy is Pittsburgh, right?

Yeah. No, that was what I was alluding to. Yeah. That was all the Steelers team doctor. Toad to truth. Yeah. Um, and then there was another thing that happened this week where Big Ben went on his podcast and said, maybe the Steelers tradition is over at this point.

You've lost Big Ben. And I don't know what Big Ben thought the Steelers tradition, what I think in Big Ben's mind, the Steelers tradition was Big Ben playing quarterback. Cause that's what I think about when I was in the house. I went on our, if for everyone who's listening in Pittsburgh, you probably know this, but PFT and I trade off. We do Thursdays with our guys at WDVE, Randy Bauman and Bill Crawford, and they are, they

are down. I'm sure it was, it was down. It's a tough time. It was, it was not, they, they were talking to me about Mitch and like, they, now they, they also are, I guess there's a rumor that the Steelers could be in the running to get Justin Fields in a potential trade. So it's essentially like it couldn't it's the shittier version of the Packers and Jets pipeline. Yeah, this is going to be the Steelers. They're not going to be bad enough to draft a good

quarterback. Correct. And I still believe in Kenny. They could make the play. I kind of believe in Kenny Picket too, just because you look at the change between Mitch and Kenny, and the offense looks entirely different. So here's the vibes, ready for the vibes. The Steelers just lost to the Cardinals in the Patriots, two of the worst four teams in the NFL. Yep.

Um, Mitch looked really bad. The Steelers have looked really bad. You have to bet the Steelers. That's the vibe. That is kind of how it goes with that team. That is the vibe. The harder they bounce back. Mike Tomman is not a, not a favorite anymore.

He's a favorite the last two games. That's the vibe. There's no Jonathan Taylor. No Jonathan, Colts do run a lot of cover three. Mitch does do well historically. That would be the one defense he would pick. Yeah, I don't, yeah. Wait a while.

Are we sure Jonathan Taylor's out? I want to double, I want to cross check that. I know that it doesn't look likely that he's playing, right? Yeah. We made this mistake with Tank Dell and then he's out. But no, no, no. Oh, yes, rap sheet. Was that the at the royal we we as a podcast. Yeah, we all you didn't stop me We made this mistake as a group we are collectively responsible for tank del no, you get to just don't want to do that again

With Jonathan get to expand the circle when you're wrong It's a whole made a mistake about tanked out sports journalism. Yeah, yeah the industry Let's go 10,000 10,000 foot or you know what our generation made a mistake about tanked out saying Well, like we'd rather be first than right about it. Yes, we don't want to do this as millennials Yeah, no, it's it's like you know the greatest generation is you know who fought World War two our Generation is just the generation that got the tanked out news wrong. Yeah and it's a black eye that we're never going to recover from as a whole. Unless we try to make steps as a group and yeah, a fact check things.

So yes, Jonathan Taylor's out per Jake Marsh. So if Jake's wrong, it's all his fault. Yep. Okay. Jake nerd nugget. Saturdays are for the Steelers. No team has had more success on Saturdays and the Pittsburgh Steelers. There are 36 victories on Saturday for the most in the NFL since 1940. That's pretty good.

I like that stat. Fives. I like it a lot. Mike Tomlin, I heard some rumors and I think this went along with Big Ben's characterization of the Steelers tradition being over. I think this was Big Ben kind of calling for Mike Tomlin's job, probably for not bringing him back. That's my guess on it.

But you have the conversations in, was it Steelers Country, Steelers Nation? Steelers Nation. They're talking about like, is this the last year for mediocre Mike? I won your left-hand contract. That would be such a sweet job if you just got hired by the Steelers because you know you've got 20 years. Yeah, actually, that was another to reference WDV. Again, they asked me about Bella Check and they're're like what do you think's gonna happen there?

And they're like wouldn't it be so weird? They fired them. I was like you guys you guys of course to be weird for you guys You never get new coaches. Yeah, like the the Steelers can't what what's that? There's been no follow up from that. We'll get to the page. Yeah, we'll get to the Patriots Okay, but yeah, the Steelers they they they have what three coaches in the last like 50 years. Yeah, it's like being a Supreme Court justice. Yeah, best job security in America. Either that or like Ben Ments. Yeah, job for life.

Job for life. Um, Mike Tom, I can say that. He can. Yeah. Uh, Broncos at Lions. I'm excited for this game. It's gonna be a good one. I am excited for this game. I've a spin a good one. I am excited for this game. I have a spin zone for the Lions.

And we talked to Jeff Saturday in a little bit, right? You're getting CD-Duse back. Yep. On defense. The defense that the Colts had when they sucked and then they ended up making a Super Bowl run was that the same year where Bob Sanders came back? Yeah.

Changing to our defense. Just tell yourself that CD-Duce is a missing link. Is Bob Sanders? He's Bob Sanders. Dan Campbell says that he's an X-man, the way that he's recovered. I love that. Which is just a great term to say about somebody,

unless you're a female swimmer. I think that he's been, should we edit that out now? No, no, no, let's keep it in. We're loopy. He's been medically cleared to play football, which no doctor should ever medically clear somebody to play football. If you're a good doctor, you should never be like,

okay, you can go play NFL football. Yeah, here's, that sounds safe. Yeah, here, take two footballs. Yeah, take two football games and call me in the morning. I'm sure you'll feel better after you play football with these injuries. Yeah, but you can talk yourself into your defense improving if you get a big missing

park back. Yeah. I think a lot of people thought that he would be a big upgrade on defense. So just tell yourself that I'm still rooting for the Lions. I want them to succeed. I want to Troid fans to be happy. You got it. You just have to have some form of hope right now. And I feel like that might be the one to zero and I think the Lions are going to win this game. I think they're going to cover this game. I the lines at home indoors have been different. Jerrogoff indoor. He's a indoor cat is, you know, 5% better completion percentage, 14 touchdowns, six interceptions, seven and four outdoors. Everyone's been shooting on the lines. I've been really bad. I was thinking about it more. The bears are kind of in line. So we'll agree with this. The Bears kind of are, uh, do have the lion's number in the fact They don't win all the time, but they they play them really tough. Yeah, and so the lions have played three out of the last four games

Have been division games which are tough games to play especially later on in the season. Teams know you so well They went, you know, Packers bears, Saints, then then bears again Now they get to play the Broncos. The Broncos can't, aren't great against the run. I also, I have a stat for you. This is a nerd stat. Maybe it's my nerd stat of the week. I like that. I like that name. Should nerd stat of the week? Yeah. Nerd, nerd stat of the week. Do, do, do, do, do. I hate that. Ah, yeah. that was bad. From from my guys at sports info solutions, they have like all the all the charts and stuff. The bra or the Lions play middle of the field open defense. Six modes in the NFL. Russell Wilson is the third worst in the league against that.

Okay, throw over the middle. Two short. So I counterpoint how much of that has to do with Jerry Judy not being able to catch a football also true Also true, but I think this is the spot to buy back on the Lions like they they're gonna get home They've they've not looked good and I also like I know that Broncos are a really good story It's incredible how they turn their season around I still think there's a little bit of smoking mirrors going on I like the Lions think they're gonna run the ball. I think you're mere Gibbs. I think it's gonna be a big, jameer Gibbs game. Yeah, so since week six,

the Broncos defense is first and third down percentage, first and takeaways. Second and points allowed per game. Take aways. Take aways is part of it. Second and points allowed per game. Second and touchdowns allowed per game. Those last two stats have a lot to do also

with the takeaway factor. Take a lot of points. What week was that from? week six weeks six. So that's when they kind of turned it around became these Broncos, not those Broncos. I do like the Lions indoors. I think anytime you see your quarterback wearing two gloves when it's outside. Yeah, you have that feeling like I don't think he's ready for this. Yeah, unless you're Teddy Bridgewater. But I do like the Lions at home in the dome.

I do think that the Broncos are still gonna make the playoffs even if they lose this game though. I think they're back. If they win this game, and I've been fucking around with the playoff machine on ESPN all week long, it's the best piece of technology that's ever been invented.

And yeah, if they win this game, they are in the playoffs as of right now. Wow, which is crazy. Crazy to think that about the Broncos. So I just looked at the schedule that turned around on their defense. It's been very good. I mean, Josh Allen, they played Josh Allen, they played Patrick Holmes, he did have the flu. A couple of other games, they played DTR and Smushdom and they played Easton stick and

Smushdom. So, but that's why I think the Broncos are a great story. I think this is where the lines get right. It could, yeah, I tend to agree with you. I think the Broncos defense, I don't think that it's all luck. I think that they've actually turned it around Sean Payton. Well, they got a year?

Yeah, come back coach of the year. He might be. But they have to turn the ball over, which Jared's got to do better. He's had a couple rough games where he's been throwing picks. I feel like they're gonna run the ball a lot. Maybe some some easy passes to Jameer Gibbs get him out in space. I'm going I'm going lines. Uh, all right, nerd nugget reminder about the baby bump Russell Wilson. Okay, having a baby. Okay, for the first time. I know he was pregnant. Why the buddy pregnant. Yeah.

What? Russell Wilson. He played pregnant? That's really impressive. That's like Serena winning whatever. All right, maybe I'm on the Broncos now. They've turned around all this time. He was in his like third trimester. Pretty impressive.

Serena Williams won an Australia Open. Siara had a baby. Yes. My show respect to the mother. What was that look for Hank? Hank, Siara, She had a baby. No, it's Serena Williams. Oh, wasn't that an unfair advantage?

Oh yeah, so that was like, that was one of the first examples of us being so wrong that we were actually right about it take when we said that being, her being pregnant was a competitive advantage because when a woman's pregnant, they don't menstruate anymore. So they hang on to all that blood, keep all that blood for themselves.

And then actually a study came out, there was like a legitimate article that said that their red blood cell count increases when they're pregnant, making oxygen travel around like more efficiently in the body. I don't know if that has anything to do with a period or not, but we were technically right about that. Yeah, we were, we nailed it. We know combo.

We nailed it, we nailed it. We know combo. We nailed it. We nailed it We're combo Kings For the first time in a double combo. Yeah, two for one for the first time in a L history a team has had a rookie running back and rookie tight down each previous 700 plus scrimmage yards In a single season running back to mere gabs and tight Sam LaPorta. Okay. All right, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Box first Packers, which we were just saying was a very big swing game in the playoff picture. Box it Packers.

Hmm. Hmm, hmm. I like the box in this game. I like the box in this game. The Packers are missing AJ Dylan. He broke his air Jones might be back. He could be back. Yeah, you could be back. AJ Dylan's been pretty good. And he has a pretty much broken thumb. Laflour won't confirm or deny how broken his thumb is meaning it's probably broken. Okay. That play? I don't know. So here's my case for the Packers. The Packers, the Bucks defense is pretty banged up. They've had a ton of injuries.

I think some guys are coming back, but they've had a ton of injuries. And I think that there's something that LaFour can do in the middle of the field, because they've had a bunch of linebacker injuries. I also think that the weakness of the Green Bay defense is the run defense and the box aren't the best running game. And then here's the big one for me. I went back and I looked and I was like, let me just look at what the box have been doing this season because I know

you know they started out hot and then they've cooled off. So they have three wins outside of the NFC South. Three wins outside of the NFC South. Weak one against the Vikings who remember started what, Oh, and three, on four, week two against the Bears, that's September Bears, one of the worst teams ever, and week nine against the Titans. Not exactly the best teams. No. So I don't know, they that like the so this is going to tell us what green Bay is. Right. It will tell us what green Bay is. And my guess is that green Bay is better than the week one Vikings, the week two bears, and the Titans.

Well, their defense stinks. Yeah. They have to carve them up. I know. They need to put, they, if the packers are going to play well because they, they had that two game stretch or they were playing well for a while, but the lion's chief stretch. Yeah. I think that's right. Was it lion's chiefs back to back?

They were getting, their defensive line was playing really well, like the guys in the middle, Kenny Clark, who I think Packers fans don't like because he's the classic all hype and then pay him a lot of money and then he'll have like a couple really good games than no show a bunch of games. But that's gonna be the key,

is like their defensive line has to get after Baker Mayfield, because you saw it on Monday night, Tommy DeVito, like they weren't doing anything. He had no sacks, he had 80% completion percentage, and I think he ran for 75 yards. Right. He might have been the first quarterback

to like ever do that. Yeah. And as a rookie who's undrafted, so the defense, I think the defense is sus to me, very sus. La Flore against bowls is another thing I'm thinking of. I think La Flore is a much better coach. I would agree. Much, much better coach.

But I still, I think. I could really do anything against bowls. I think I like Tampa Bay in this game. The Battle of the Bays. Yeah, this is the classic Mike Sherman, Warren Sap, put a jersey on yeah When it when Warren sap blindsided Chad clifton and broke his leg and then afterwards Mike Sherman was like that was bullshit More and sap just stood in the middle of field like put a jersey on all time come back

It's also the the mat Laflora fuel goal game. Yes might get some PTSD on that Yeah, let's keep it. Let's keep it to football numbers Matt. Yeah, let's go sevens and threes Please do the whole time. Let's keep it to football numbers Matt. Yeah, let's go sevens and threes. Please do the whole time Let's never get to eight. I had thought about this about this whole division with the NFC South Obviously, I think we we still agree that the coach every coach that does not win the division will probably be fired Correct next year Baker mayfield is he has Baker mayfield played good enough this year to earn himself a spot as a starter moving forward Yeah, I think he might be.

Yes, I think there's not enough talk about Baker Mayfield being come back player of the year. Yes, that's not happening. Yes, do you think it's Demar? Well, yeah, Demar, remember, he got in for that one special teams play. Yeah, but it's got to be to a Russell Wilson to a demar fingers. Yeah, it's harder to have. I mean, why I guess it happened in the

playoffs, Brock party. Yeah, I mean, that's that's legit. Yeah, it could be, but with with the player like Russell Wilson, you're just giving him come back player that you're because he sucked last wait, we were wrong about all this. Did you guys see Aaron Rodgers practice today? Yeah, that's basically a game. Yeah, I agree. Not actually we should give it to him. I've got a juicy little future on him. Embarcil sports tweeted that Aaron Rodgers is not even human. Okay, I'd actually say missing the entire season

because you got injured is the most human thing ever. Well, was he injured? Seen. That was, I mean, he's literally showing that he's human. Was he actually, he hasn't's literally showing that he's human was he has been playing was he actually injured to begin with yeah it's a good question okay nerd nugget for bucks Packers V. A Greg Alman Buckeneers quarterback Baker may be giving out credit now well sometimes sometimes I get him from the

notes sometimes I get him from actual people oh okay yeah Buckeneers quarterback Baker Mayfield has played at Lambo field in each of the last two years, also booked in December with the Browns on Christmas Day in 2021. He lost throwing four innerceptions. And with the Rams last year, he lost and was sucked five times. Yeah, unlike Lambo.

So that was Greg Alman's Nerdnugging the Week. That might be my Nerdnugging the Week this week. Well, it's Greg Alman's because he always won right. He covers the box. How do you spell his last name? Is it Greg Alman? A-U-M-A-U? Oh, A-U. Oh, okay.

It's Alman. Alman. It's actually Birdna G of the week. Does he have a Tutsi pop in his hand? No. Okay. I was probably dated me really bad. No, I get it.

Yeah, well, I mean, how many lists that thing? Yeah, only one day older than you. Yeah, you are fucking old. I know what Tussi Pop is. No, I know the commercial. The hour is one, two. You know what a good joke could be if you said Greg Alman and then we said who?

Yeah, you say Alman. Who? That would be a good joke. Follow that away from you. Lupi episode, Lupi episode, folks. Hank, you writing this shit down? That was a bit that you could use. Yeah.

Dude, hey guys, we got any outman out there? Ooh, ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Dude, I was rock. I was like, what if you did an hour of just straight up like anyone here from Detroit?

Anyone here from Sacramento and just did every city in America. That's actually not a bad idea. I like it. No, I'm from Sacramento. Cut this. Let's try San Jose. We'll cut this. Albuquerque in the house.

All right. Next game. Bears of Browns. I've dubbed this Gateway Game, which makes me very nervous because I think I'm 04 in my life in Gateway games. And when I say Gateway game, it's not only a Gateway game for the Bears in like what the rest of the... Because like, they win this game, they have the Cardinals and the Falcons at home, and you can start thinking, oh, you know, they're getting spicy. It's also a Gateway game for my happiness. I am very, very excited for this game. If the Bears win this game, I will be a very, very happy boy. It is a gateway game. And again, my record and gateway games,

oh, for lifetime. Yeah. I don't know. I kind of like the Bears this weekend. I really do. The there's another guy they got banged up on the Browns. DeFace. They've lost. So this week they lost Grant Helpert, who is their leading tackler and the Noroncoe, who's their second in sack. Nooron Quo was great, there was actually a great quote from Jim Schwartz about the injury that he had, because he had a pectoral there,

and he played through it on one arm, and Jim Schwartz said, I went back and watched the film, and almost threw up. Oh, wow. You almost puked, that was a step. That would have made him football pussy the week of Jim Schwartz puked.

Make your coach puke. Yeah, that's actually a bad ass move Though to make your coach puke and then Denzel wards been out for a few weeks now And it feels like he's playing the game of Izzy back. Is he not every week? Yeah, I kind of like the I like the bears this weekend I know it sounds crazy to say the Browns have looked okay the last couple weeks. Flacco just got that contract He got paid he gets paid for every win. He gets a $75,000 bonus per win, and then the playoffs, I think it goes to like $100,000 to $50,000, $500,000, and then, I think it's $2 million.

If you want to- They should have made that a billion. Yeah. Like Jimmy Haslam should have been like, you now own what is a pilot? A flying J. Flying J, you own flying J if the Browns win the Super Bowl.

That would be a great- That would have been a great incentive. Also a great nickname for Joe Fl A flying J. Flying J. You own flying J if the Browns win the Super Bowl. That would be a great. That would have been a great incentive. Also a great nickname for Joe Flacco. Yeah. Flying J. Yeah. Okay. I'm nervous about this game because I have flashbacks.

We all watched, I think we watched this game together. We were in, it might not have been everyone here. We were in Aurora for a deal with Penn where we did a watch party and we did a, remember we did a promo. It was 1985, last time the Bears won the Super I don't know if anyone knows that year. We did a promo that if you bet $1 on the Bears

against the Browns, you would get $1,985. And it was a promo that was like, I remember it was one of the first big promos to do with Penn and they're like, so many people have bet this that if the bear is covered, like we might all be out of jobs. It was the game that Justin feels, I think got sacked seven times.

It was his first start and they scored six points and he looked absolutely miserable. He was six for 20 for 68 yards. So yeah, the Bears had 47 total yards in that game. So yeah, I'm a little nervous about this game. I have that flying in my head. Like the last time I saw the Bears on this field, it was the worst game I've ever watched.

You do have full permission though to just be like Bears are back if they win this. Oh, if they get to six and eight. If the bears win this game, they they don't control their destiny, but the fact that they play the Falcons and Cardinals at home and then the Packers week 18, like they they could be in a similar spot to what the Lions were last year. I want you to do a visualization technique with me here. Imagine it's the last week of the season, Justin Fields beats the Packers, you get into the

playoffs, then you get smoked first round of the playoffs. I mean, by the Eagles, oh, yeah, think about that. The Eagles can't run the ball in the pairs. You get smoked. No chance. You can run the ball in the game. And then Max gets the biggest revenge of his entire career on you. It wouldn't. So if that happens, I don't actually think it would be the biggest revenge because one,

the Eagles would still have to win three more games to win the Super Bowl. And two, if that happens, I will be playing with so much house money at that point that Max will be in a spot where like if he loses, his life is over. It'll be terrifying. It's not a win. Yeah, there's no win for me. And if he wins, it's like, well, dude, it was the Bears.

They were fucking four and eight a month ago. So I will sign up for that. I would not sign up for that. Yeah, he mat. That would be a hundred percent pressure on Max. Like maybe one percent pressure on me. But there would be zero. Like zero.

It's house money. If they were in the table. You would be like, all right, we made it to the playoffs. It would beat the Packers. And if you fucking beat me, I, that would actually be a moment. So now I'm not where I wouldn't come into work. But if you don't, you wouldn't be able to, but yeah, also, I wouldn't be able to after math to that game. We'd already be at work. If you made the playoffs, if you lose in the playoffs, you probably keep

Justin Fields next year. I still think it's on the table that I listen, we had a we had a debate yesterday on on the old xvideos.com. The financial still makes sense to start with a rookie and build a defense and everything. So what about this? What about keeping Justin Fields around next year as a backup? I don't think that makes much sense. You don't think so. He's still cheap.

No, I don't think so because I think you have to decide on his fifth year options. Like this spring. You would have to decide, yeah, this year. So you decline the fifth year option. You keep him as a backup. You keep him as a backup. And then maybe his value grows in the year where he doesn't play. Either way, this is a gateway game I'm very nervous.

Yeah. It's the first, it's the first Bears game since week one against the Packers this year, where my hopes are as high as it could be and the potential for disaster are as even higher. Yeah, I'd be concerned about Flacco getting beaten up by the Bears defense. Well, well, we'll see. I don't want to hurt him. Now, he, he, you can't hurt Flacco. Sure. You can't hurt him. Uh, nerd nugget. The Bears are a juggernaut on the ground when it comes to big runs. Chicago is 57 rushes of 10 plus yards this season, which leads the NFL. Oh, all right. I also think there's going to be a big DJ more and just some fields with his legs. Man coverage, browns are heavy man coverage. DJ Moore's a beast man coverage. So if you want it, if you're looking for something, that's that's my thoughts. Okay, next game, a game that no one should bet,

but it's happening, because no one knows what's gonna happen with all these injuries, Texans to Titans, is CJ Stroud gonna play probably not? I mean, we should have learned from our mistake with the Texans last time as a group. My guess is that he's not gonna play because he's in a pro-to-practice today.

So it could be Case Keenum. Yeah, it's Davis Mills or practice today. So it could be case, Keenam. Yeah. It's Davis Mills or case, Keenam. Can't believe case, Keenam still around. Yep. Nigel Collins probably out. I would assume I think so. I think you're officially out. Yes.

Are you sure? Yes. Okay. Matchy playing. This is one of those games where I would love, love, love to take the Texans because you have the Titans coming off a big Monday night win. The Texans coming off a horrific game against the Jets. It's a clear like, hey, just swap them.

But without CJ Stroud and the Titans are wearing the oilers uniform. That's the thing is they're wearing the throwbacks. We said at the start of the year, the winner of this game should get to where the Houston oilers go. No, no, no, no. Taylor won actually tweeted that. Oh, he did? Yeah, yes.

He tweeted that before me yesterday. Yes. Damn. Did he really? It's a good take. Good take, Taylor. Yeah. He did it.

Was that on the bus? No, he tweeted it. Okay. Yeah, he tweeted it. It's a good take. Sometimes you gotta take your hat off and say it. He also though, I felt bad for him because Titans fans went, jumped out of his throat because they're like, fuck that.

We know that they're not actually gonna play for a jersey. We're just speaking in hypothetical. So I backup Taylor and that respect. We're speaking as fans. And we understand what happened with the franchise moving and the franchise that moves gets to keep all the history intellectual property and the Texans spring up as an expansion team. I'm just saying there's nothing to Tennessee about oil.

No, that's Houston. And also you had so many iconic players that played in those uniforms in Houston. It feels like it should be Houston. The Texans should just like fight fire with fire. And when they come to Tennessee and they wear these order uniforms, they should just wear like a guitar on their helmet. Taylor Swift. Yeah, bluegrass. We're the Houston bluegrass. Yeah, the country boy is from Texas. Okay, nerd nugget. Titans running back to Eric Henry

has scored two touchdowns in each of the last three games and can set the franchise record by recording his fourth consecutive game with at least two rushing touchdowns. He'd become the eighth NFL player since the 1970 merger to accomplish that. Wow, tractor season. tractor seedle season. you can touch down. So you'd become the eighth NFL player since the 1970 merger to accomplish that. Wow. Tractor Seato season.

Traceto season. All right, next up, Chets at Dolphins. Dolphins offense of lines of mess. Could this be a get right game for the dolphins? I don't think so. Their offense of line is banged up. I think they're down three starters, right? Yeah.

And the Jets defense. Of four maybe. The Jets defense is good. Very good. And I think they might be looking at this game. So if you're the Jets and you. Of four maybe. The Jets Defence is good. Very good. And I think they might be looking at this game. So if you're the Jets and you've had a bad season, you've lost a lot of really shitty games where your offense could do shit.

We've talked about how the defense at some point has to be like, I'm tired of this shit. I'm sick of this shit. I'm tired of this shit. Yep. Will you play against a good team that's got all the accolades and a team that people are talking about

as being possibly super bowl contenders? I feel like that's a all the accolades and a team that people are talking about is being possibly super bowl contenders. I feel like that's a good natural shot in the arm for the Jets defense to go out there and have something to prove. Also, I think the Jets defense got a little bounce back in their step last week when Zach Wilson showed to be competent. Yeah, he's really good now. Like, date, you get at least, maybe the play is actually Jets first half because the, they're going off of what Zach Wilson look

like in the second half last week. So they're like, oh, he's going to be good. It might take a half for them to be like, no, he's still Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson again. Yeah. It might be the play. I, I, I like the dolphins in this situation. I feel like Zach Wilson coming back to earth. That's a safe bet. Yeah. Uh, means historically a very safe bet. Memes, jets win this Rogers. If jets win this, Rogers. If jets win this, we're all the way back. I've created a path to the playoffs for the jets. Okay, go on. The worst part about me asking memes this is that I'm laughing at them,

but it's no different than when I talk about the Bears. We're both five and eight. Yeah, the NFC's more. What max? Every team in the AFC is seven and six. every team in the AFC is seven and six. No team in the NFC is seven and six. Oh, yeah, they're what? Six all six and seven.

Six and seven. Yeah, you're right. You have a game. Clothes means that memes is there's a point. Oh, five percent chance that the jets make the playoffs. And memes. It would is acting like it's 50. Okay. So you're right.

Thank you, Max. So I'm crazy. I'm crazy. We have a lot of six and seven teams. I'm crazy, but I'm not as crazy as memes. Thank you, Max. So I'm crazy. I'm crazy. We yeah, but there's a lot of six and seven teams I'm crazy, but I'm not as crazy as memes. Thank you, Max memes give us the path So if one of the does any team have to get hit like like have a plane crash No, I literally said that this

Good good good good. All right, so we We went through all the iterations and it's like, and the cheese have to like all get kidnapped. If the Buffalo Bill's flight runs into a building. Yeah. So the third playoff spot needs a finish, would have seven wins by the end of this week. So the Jets have to be the dolphins.

OK. The winner of Steelers Colts will be eight wins. So hoping the Colts win that one. OK. Lions beat the Broncos. OK. Vikings have to Colts will be eight wins. So hoping the Colts win that one. Okay. Lions beat the Broncos. Okay. Vikings have to beat the Bengals.

Okay. Bears have to beat the Browns. Wait, are we doing this for every week? Yeah. Well, no, no, no, just week 15. Okay, all right. Let's play what's in front of you. Yeah, Titans beat the Texans.

Cowboys beat the bills. All right, send me that because I'll put it in as a parlay for you. Okay, and then teams most likely to fuck up this path are the bangles and the jets. I'm looking at that graph that I talked about. You really kind of buried the lead there. When it comes to the graph on how your playoff percentage is increased or decreased based on this game, it looks like with the win,

the jets playoff percentage increases by this looks like 1%. Oh, yeah. So you're taking baby steps. Actually memes, you know what you should do. Just say like if the jets make the playoffs and Aaron Rogers starts, you'll do Iowaska. And okay, it is funny. I just looked up the standings and the jets are in 14th place out of 16 team best best team in the NFC. It's boiler season and could be back season. Oh man. in the NFC. It's boiler season and could be back season. Oh, man. Okay. Next game up.

Oh, nerd nugget. This is the first time in dolphin's history that Miami's recorded a pick six and three consecutive games. If they can do it again on Sunday against the Jets, they joined the 2000 two bucks as the only teams in the NFL since 2000 have a pick six and four straight games. Wow. Okay. All right. Next game, chiefs at Patriots. Bell check. Yeah, Bell check news. So as a Patriots news or reports. Well, you reported on Wednesday show, people heard that. I reported on the report.

Did did get a lot of tweets about that? I don't know. Oh, okay. Okay. As a Patriots fan on this podcast, I'm just gonna say that, oh, okay. Okay. As a Patriots fan on this podcast, I'm just gonna say that seems like fake news to me. Seems like a fake news media report from Tom Kern And you know the media has been out to get us since 2000 it feels like at the start. Why did you do the report on that? At the start. Oh, yeah, we should have BFT do the report. At the start. It was okay. Going back to the beginning It was like, oh, you're videotaping your's practices illegally and then using that material to game plan for them.

The fake news media was wrong about that. Then there was, Oh, they were right about that. No, they hate us because they ain't us. Oh, hang, you're, you're doing fanfishing right? Listen to them. They weren't right about that. Okay, Bell Check didn't do anything wrong. What, I can't believe that you're going

against my Patriots like this. So they were wrong about that. Then after that, there was the tuck rule, right? The tuck rule, everybody knows that was bullshit. That was a great call by the refs. After that, benefited the Patriots. No, I'm just saying, but then people complained about the tuck rule and said, oh, the Patriots are cheating again. I'm just saying, like, the news media has been against us for so long, like what you're saying right now. Everybody hated the Patriots after that call. They thought that it was bullshit. It wasn't, it was a good rule.

Was it after that call? After that? Or after they won the second and then third super bowl? Okay, well then yeah, that went right along with the whole videotaping practices thing. That was hand in hand. Then there was Aaron Hernandez killing a bunch of people and people were like, oh, the Patriots are back

at the organization for that. Then there was Julian Edelman getting his drinks spiked by something and everyone came at us and said, oh, the Patriots are running a real loose ship around here. Okay. What's going on with that? Then there was messing with the injury report and like Brandon spikes and being like, oh, you guys are cheating that way.

And then after that, it was, oh, you're fucking with the in-game communications between Mike Tomlin and his players on the field on the satellite. That was also fake. That was fake news. Then there was deflate gate. Oh, Tom Brady's cheating by deflating all these balls. Then there was Robert Kraft getting sucked off at the day spa.

No jerked off. Allegedly. Okay, there was mouth contact. It might have just been a tongue. But then that was a bunch of bullshit too. They were just coming at us for that. Then there was the fake lighthouse thing that everybody got upset about.

I don't care. Now, wait, we forgot one. Then Bella check had that booty call at that girl's house. Oh yeah, Bella check shirtless walk of shame slut shaming our head coach Bill Bella check. And then now this is just another brick in the wall. And we're brick by brick. We're defending the wall.

This is our Patriots. They hate us because they ain't us. And this is just a normal report that I would expect from the fake news media. Hank, as a Cowboys fan, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, some of those things have dollar facts. Some of them I agree that they're rumors and speculation and nonsense, but what about the mouth

versus hand situation with craft? He's probably doing it all. Okay. Yeah, it's a guy. That's a Jerry would do. That's a guy. That's what Robert Kraft, Mr. Positions. That's what Jerry would do. That's just a kind of a great owner. Yeah, that's true guy. That's a Jerry would do. That's our guy. That's Robert Kraft, Mr. Positions. That's what Jerry would do.

That's just a kind of a great owner. Yeah, that's true. You're got Jerry. He definitely would. Jerry would go anal. Yeah, for sure. He goes anal. You wouldn't get the massage.

Yeah, the report that came out on Tuesday night was that Patriots expected to move on from Belicechek that had been reported or had been discussed after the Germany game. We all remember that one. We're Mac Jones through like the worst interception of all time. And yeah, Mr. Craft was embarrassed. Bellic Check said, okay, well, then we're done here. Do you believe it? No, as a Patriots fan, there's no chance.

Zero? Zero percent chance. I don't think Bellic Check would leave. I think the Patriots might win this game. Spoiler. Spoiler. Spoiler, spoiler for the chiefs. And then, oh, it'd be kind of crazy too, because then... Well, remember when the Patriots beat the Chiefs opening night

and they called... No, the Chiefs beat the Patriots. But the guy was out of, they called him out of balance when he wasn't. Oh, I thought you were talking about the time when, was the Trent Delphur, was like, it's over? Yeah. That was good, That was good.

Good. Good. Down night. The kill Harry. I was Monday night game. The kill Harry was recently. The, I believe that was the night everyone had the cadel towels. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was when Dave cried.

And Fatalberg was like, enjoy your heirlooms or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. PFT knows all that. Yeah, yeah. This is like, I've lived in a breather. It's like same, they run the same playbook against the Patriots every year.

Oh, here's another story just to make us look bad and then guess what we do. We respond, we win Super Bowls. I don't think they're gonna win this week. Well, yeah, you're a hater. I agree. I think the Chiefs are gonna win. I think the Chiefs're gonna win this week. Well, oh, I agree. I think the Chiefs are gonna win. I think the Chiefs are gonna get right. The NFL needs the Chiefs to win.

Oh, and so I think that's gonna play a factor as it usually does when these two teams match up. Sometimes the Patriots overcome, sometimes they have no choice but not to, but I think if it's close, Chiefs are winning this. The, they might lose my 30. I, the chiefs are winning this. The, uh, they might lose my 30. I think the chiefs are going to win this game because that Patriot Steelers game, like, Bailey Zappi was incredible for two

corners. Mm-hmm. And then they went right back to the Patriots offense, not good. They just built up a big enough lead. Right. So, okay, but we forget that we're like, Bailey Zappi played good last year. Yeah, right. So I, and I think this is like everyone in the chiefs, you know Locker rooms like this we have to win this game easily because we this is time It's time how sick would it be if Travis Kelsey did the lateral again this week. That would be sick It'd be great get that ball to can yeah, that's a highlight. Could there is strong probably be offsides again

Keteris Tony, where's he gonna line up? Is he gonna line up in the backfield every game? They should yeah, they should tell them do not you're never on the line of scrimmage You might line up it you know in Kansas City because they won't bring them on the plane. That would be a smart move. Yes So you think the pages are gonna lose? Yeah, the loose clothes. Oh, so hungry dog Hungry dogs for winners. Oh, okay, so have you won it a lot? Yeah Historically All right revenge game too. Yeah, did you revenge game? So have you wanted a lot? Yeah. Distortly. All right. A revenge game too.

Yeah. Did you revenge game? Tucked back the back. Still waiting for his knee to explode. Yeah. At any second, you should get that knee experience. It's a revenge tour. Yeah. Yeah.

It is. Okay. Nerd nugget. I actually have a theory to Hank's point. I think that I see all. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, nerd theory. Okay. Theory.

I think Stephen Hawking. I think if the NFL wanted anything, they should want the chiefs not to get the buy because that's one extra game of ratings for the Swifties. Super wild card weekend. Good point. Good point. Well, that would explain why they didn't ask L Michaels to do that game.

Because on Thursday night football, you remember L Michaels was against Taylor Swift. He was like, listen, we're gonna show her, but we're not gonna make her the main story because she's not the main story. Football is the main story. I thought it was because Al Michaels and Taylor Swift can never be in the same building otherwise they'd fuck.

The attraction is too high. I don't wanna say how. Yeah. But they would. They would. They would. But yeah, Al Michaels, there's a theory out there that Michael's was asked to step aside because he wasn't playing ball with them asking to put Taylor Swift on the broadcast. I'm not aware of that. Okay. Yeah. But theory, where

you're going theory for theory. Yeah. That's fair. Theory of chief swatter, receiver, Ashirai says six receiving touchdowns this season with one more he can break the tie with four other former chief for most, most touchdown receptions and a player's rookie season. Rice has got to be the best receiver last name. Yeah, ever. Yeah. Yeah. Did they did that?

Nernugget come directly from the chief's wide receiver locker room. It was from Chief's game. Yeah. I mean, they're wide receivers stink. You're pretty bad. Well, here's the one one who's wide receivers are worse in this game. The chiefs are the Patri. You're pretty bad. Well, here's the one one. Who's wide receivers are worse in this game, the chiefs of the Patriots. Whew.

Both pretty bad. I, it's got, it's Devante Parker on the Patriots though. Is he playing? Yeah. I think he caught some balls. I forgot about him. He's probably the best receiver on the field, right? Yeah.

He's a few former dolphins. They have Gassicki. Devante. Yeah, Henry. Okay. He's tied in. Next game. Giants and Saints. Is it catch the ball? You don't know anything about a roster?

Giants and Saints. I'm in back because I know that Panther Saints game was hard for you with every touchdown bet. That was a 14-6 game. Yeah, no. The Panthers outgain the Saints by a hundred yards. That's what was so frustrating because they had every chance to score a touchdown and they just wouldn't. Right, so then you look at the box score and you're like,

oh, they beat the Panthers, 28-6, they killed them. Saints are right. No, no, the Saints are not right. There's nothing right about the Saints right now. And you're gonna lay six points. Yeah, they're Tommy DeVito. They're broken. Yeah, broken franchise.

Yeah. So yeah, I'm, you have to. I, you can't root against the Tommy DeVito moment that's happening right now. The only way you, if you're a Saints fan, and I honestly think that a lot of Saints fans would rather them not win these games because it delays an inevitable explosion of the team.

But if you're, if you're anybody but besides a Saints fan, you have no excuse to be rooting for the Saints this week and extend the Tommy DeVito story. It's fun. Let us have this fun little blip. The only people who can root against Tommy DeVito are Saints fans and then if you are late to the Tommy DeVito party because like I was talking to Dave, he had the Packers on Monday night football

and he was like, I want to take the Giants here, but I'm late to the party because you can't switch. If the train starts going, if the narrative train starts going and you missed the first two stops, you jump on that, that train crashes off the bridge. Yeah, this would be a bad game to introduce somebody to Tommy. Right. You don't want to do this. There's a great chance that it does to reel and things go haywire. But keep enjoying it. Like let us enjoy our Tommy DeVito moment.

You I want this to extend. If you can't if you can't handle your Tommy DeVito at what was it like 17 yards or it was like minus negative cards. Yeah, and you don't deserve them on this three game winning streak. No, he and he might be good. He might be good He's going he's going you know he's going next week. What he's got a permit To what Eagle on them. Oh shit. Yeah. Uh-oh Yeah, do we know any Italian Eagles fans? It would be really really upset with that be torn You should do a split jersey next week. No shot Eagles in the title. I'm not Oh, do we know any Italian Eagles fans? It would be really really upset with that. Be torn.

You should do a split jersey next week. No shot. Eagles in the Italian flag. I am not born in the slightest. I am not born in the slightest. Yeah, Ciriani, Ciriani rocks in the Italian flag. And Dom, and Dom. We'll get back to the, we'll get to Dom in a minute.

Yeah, I'm all giants here. Probably a mistake, but once you're on the train, you don't get off. Just watching, I'm a prisoner of the moment. So on one hand, I'm rooting for Tommy DeVito on the other. I'm full in on the Saints offensive line and don't like Derek Carr. Yes, I agree with that. And we will talk more about that with Jeff Satter because he had some good insight.

We asked him a specific question about that. Uh, okay, last early games, Falcons at Panthers. Oh boy. Who boy PFT? I don't know how you can bet Desmond Ritter as a favorite on the road. But I also don't know how you can bet the Panthers. Couple things. Couple little facts from this game. One, that really cool camera that they have at the Mercedes-Benz dome, where they've tracked the ball. They released a highlight of Desmond Ritter throwing a pass of Drake London. It was like the worst pass ever. It so our colleague Big T had a very good

Observation from that. Yeah, even Desmond Ritter's highlight throws look like they're being intercepted by his own Wibers. That was exactly what happened. He threw it to a cornerback and Drake London dove in front of him at the last second to catch it made a great play on the ball It was it was crazy. Uh, all this is a great camera though. It is a great camera. Other fact about this game, if you would like to go this game, use the game time app, but guess what? Ticket, get in price? Seven dollars, 45 cents. What? That's like 1950.

You get a free shoe shine with that. 45 cents. that's crazy Tapers got a piece off about that 45 cents if I was David Tepper I would buy every ticket for this game just so you didn't have the embarrass 45 cents of the 45 Yeah, oh man, that's tough. That's tough. I'd trip to chirp, bird nugget of the week. Let's go. Love it. For the falcons. For the falcons, bird fact, did you know

that you can tell which way the wind is blowing by how birds are standing? Well, that makes sense, right? Birds always stand facing into the wind. Oh, they like the adversity. Yeah, they don't want to get blown away too, because if the wind kind of gusts, then they just take off and fly away.

And they're all of a sudden flying. Birds, if you can tell, if you're ever stranded in nature and you see a bird facing east, then you can be like, actually that wouldn't really work. You just know which way the wind's blown. Yeah, because the bird, if you're on a golf course and there's a bunch of asshole Canadian geese next to you, you know, those aren't birds.

Which way is this deploying, the golf ball in this shot, you're like, well, the birds are facing that way. That's where the wind's coming from. That would make sense though, because if they had their ass to the wind, it'd be like a car neutral. Yeah. You just roll away at any moment.

Yeah. It's like dogs when they're in a car, dogs will always put their face in the wind too. They won't look backwards. Yeah. Birds like the adversity. That's a fact. Yeah, I just, I, I, I like bedding,

Desmond Ritter, minus three on the road is a very scary proposition, but I don't know how you could bet the Panthers at this point. And I've tried, I've tried to bet the Panthers a few times the last few weeks. I think I might double down on my start, Andy Reed tape, or Andy Dalton take. Yeah, for the Panthers. I don't like it. Because I've, I've talked to some Panthers fans. They don't, they don't hate the idea. A lot of them Actually like the idea because I think that you're doing more harm than good to break they want they don't want to give up the first pick Yeah, well when a couple games and not give up the first pick so I like brace young you got to let the kid learn Yeah, I just I think if you're a panthers fan you want you want to save Everything that brace young is doing you want the real coaches to come in

You don't want him to learn anything else that he's gonna have to unlearn over this off season. You don't want his confidence to get killed any more than it already is. You want him to get hurt, God forbid. So just put any Dalton in. Yeah. Yeah.

No. I need Bryce Young to keep losing. I like that he's losing. Okay. Take a quick break. Oh, bird nugget. Yeah, I a quick break. Oh, bird nugget. Yeah, I got a reverse. No, nerd nugget.

I'm going to reverse course quickly and let you know that, giants have 14 takeaways in the last five weeks, including a week 13 by. Wait, oh, I missed the last one. Yeah, but I didn't want to interrupt. Okay. Uh, take Jake. Very cool. There are 14 takeaways in the last four games are the highest in a four game

spans since 2012. So the giant's defense. That's actually good. Yeah, all right. All So the Giants defense. That's actually good. Yeah. Alright. Alright. I like that. That's a good one. The Panthers are wearing black helmets for the first time this season. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. That changes my calculus. Well, the last time they wore them, it was at home against the Falcons as well. They won 25 to 15. Black helmet game. Yeah. Okay. I

think I might take the Panthers pulling out all the stops. They can't their offense can't be as bad as it was last week, right? That's like impossible. No, it's been really bad for a long time. Oh, it was so bad. Yeah, it's been really bad for a long time. All right, before we get to the afternoon games in the Sunday night game, quick word from our friends. Apple take over the family plan. Now streaming on Apple TV plus plus starring Mark Wahlberg as Dan Morgan who has many things a devoted husband, a loving father, a celebrated car salesman. He's also a former assassin and when his past catches up to his present, he takes his unsuspecting family on a road trip unlike any other. This is a you got it. There's a must watch put a must watch tag on this. If you have to have Apple TV Apple TV has everything.

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This is a perfect time of year to, you know, sit down on the couch on a Friday night. It's cold out. Apple family plan now streaming on Apple TV plus. Okay. Afternoon games 49ers at Cardinals, the sneak them in 405 305 start. I'm gonna do something dangerous. Pft. I think I'm gonna bet on the Cardinals take the birds. I think this game is gonna be over by the time the real afternoon game start. That's what I think the lead lead starts. Okay, the only reason I'm going to take the card is they're coming off a buy.

And I know that look ahead don't really exist in the NFL, but if they did, the Niners are looking ahead to a huge game against Ravens Monday and football that will decide both conferences one seed's most likely. Yeah, I don't know if the Niners can look ahead though because they have those three losses in a row. I know. They're fighting for the one seed right. I they're gonna win. I'm saying could this be that weird game, you know, it starts it. The fact that it starts 305 405 that weird game that like you don't really pay attention to and you're like,

Oh, wow, the four diners are only on three in the fourth quarter. Just saying maybe the Cardinals defense is tough. I said it. I said I was gonna do something dumb. Yeah, it might be dumb But I guess in conferences. You don't know what's gonna happen between the two teams. They know each other Yeah, they know each other a lot well really well. I still like the Niners. I think the Niners are on they've got a mission Okay, yeah, okay All right You're getting high. This is a C4. Oh, okay. I love that. Yeah, you are. You're getting high on new tropics. Life.

Okay, Jake, nerd nugget. Since 2019, 53% of the 49ers receiving yards have come after the catch. This yak percentage ranks first in the NFL during that span. That's the D-Bo stat. It's the D-Bo stat. That's your song, guys. Yes, that was good.

Yeah. We'll have to get a new song now. So awesome. It's hot in here. It. Yes, that was good. Yeah. We'll have to get a new song now. So it's hot in here. It is. It's very hot. OK, next game, Commanders at Rams. I have a question for PFT that will decide you want me to bet on you.

OK. PFT, we know each other for a long time. We're good friends. We have a great working relationship. Did you dye your mustache? Yes. Okay, all right, all right, all right. I just wanted to be honest.

Hey, could he turn me last thing? He's like, I think PFT dye the mustache. I gotta make this bad boy pop. Gotta make it pop. Oh, happy you're honest, okay. We were thinking about it. We didn't want to break it. Yeah, I was watching.

So we were doing the survival and martial arts for now, we show last night, and I was stationed behind PFT diagonally, and I wasn't really involved in any of the conversations, so I was just looking around, and I just got fixated on your mustache. Yeah, I looked it up, I was, I'm happy you admitted it, because I pulled up the receipts

from a picture of you last night, and then the YouTube episode from Monday's show. Yeah, all this was dyed mustache all the time. Well, let's not act like this is the first time seats from a picture of you last night and then the YouTube episode from from Monday show. Oh, this was guy mustache of all time. Well, let's not act like this is the first time. No, no, I know. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we Looking like a mix between Joe dirt and Mario. So it's just like right now Mario I look like Tom select mixed between Tom's like and Joe dirt Many people are saying the mustache looks great. I would agree with them. No, let's talk about the sideburns

I need to I need to I did not die the sideburns are bad Sideburns are bad. Like I think the, wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, we were just saying, hang on, hang on. Sideburns are bad. Hang on, so patch, all right? So when I, I lost a bet, you're doing this by choice. I said, yeah, so here's my thing, right?

If the sides of the mustache kind of grow and blonde sometimes, so if I grow the whole operation out, it looks like I'm doing a little H-man action with my facial hair. This looks like a Confederate revolutionary war soldier. You're going to write a letter to Andrew Luck, many great people on both sides. Yeah, listen, okay, the mustache might not be the best look in the world, but just something I'm trying out. I think it looks fine. It's just, Hank and I was weighing on Hank and I, because we were like, did he die? Oh yeah, yeah, millions. I also just said Confederate

revolutionary war. I want to address yeah. Yeah, Million. I also just said, can you put better at revolutionary war? I want to address that. Oh, you don't have to stress that. Yeah. Civil war. Million percent died. 100 million percent died.

We're not expecting any real facts. Yeah. Oh, Max messed up a history fact. This whole credibility, the entire tie-tack. Candlest, and war. Show me, show you to stand for something. For this game, I think the Rams are going to win. Yeah, they're going to win. I think there's going to be a lot of points scored, which is nice.

The defense on the commander side can't really do anything. I'm just looking for good stuff out of Sam. How yeah, continue to be the guy. You're in the good stuff time. We're like, just give me some stuff from the quarterback. Yeah, give me some good stuff. No injuries from Sam. How I'm full in on tanking right now. I'm sure once the game starts, I want the commanders to win, but I do not want them to win right now. I've got pre-nut clarity and it would be bad if they won this football game. Make sense.

Yeah. You want pre-nut delusion. That I want them to lose this football game. You don't get clarity, pre-nut. I do. I think my clearest right perform about to have sex. The best delusion. No, it's literally exactly what I did.

I know, I'm focused. You get tunnel vision on the koochi. I'm like, the clearest right before about to have sex. The best. That's the illusion. No, it's literally exactly what it is. No, focus. You get tunnel vision on the, on the kuchi. Yeah. Delusion. The, um, yeah, you, you, a perfect scenario for you is that Sam Howell looks really good in the 49ers, or sorry, the, the commanders stay like,

like 10 point deficit the whole time. Yeah, that'd be great. It's like, if you ever take the lead in the second half, then you're gonna be like, ah, we're winning. It would be nice if they threw the ball to Terry McClure and once. Yeah, the coach is cardio after the last game, where he's like, I'm basically just doing cardio out there,

not catching any balls. It's tough. But I've reached the point with this team where, you know, we lost Chase Young, lost Montess, what the way that Josh Harris operates is it's probably going to be a clean rebuild where you just get everyone out and bring in entirely new. Turn the page entirely. It might be time to say bye to Jonathan Allen.

I know he's sick of this shit. I know he's fucking tired of this shit. He's fucking tired of this motherfucking shit. That's famous quote. He's a great player. He's a captain, love him, wish him nothing but the best. Might be time to just be like, okay,

even our good players like Jonathan Allen, Terry McClure, and we might just be starting over entirely next year. Yeah, just get everybody that's had a whiff, anyone that's been in a room with Dan Snyder should not be on this team moving forward. Yes. That's kind of the position that I'm in right now

because he will get his stink on you somehow. Yeah, burn it all down. Burn it all down. Restart next year. Turn the page. New coach, maybe, maybe my Patriots could Simele check down there. I don't know what that would look like. It would be funny if the commanders like petition the league to be like, can you guys, we're going to change our name again. Can you just make us an expansion franchise? Yeah. Well, I, I'll take that. Yeah. I would even, no, I don't want to say that. I mean, in the heat of the moment, if we didn't have a season next year and then we came back entirely new, that would be good for the future of the organization.

Right. But I do obviously want to see the commanders play football on Sundays and Josh Harris might turn around. Yeah. This is the team that he's focused on more than any other team that he owns. That's a fact. That's a fact. Okay.

Uh, last afternoon game, the best game Cowboys at Bills Henry, your Cowboys. The Crown Jewel. The Crown Jewel. Can I be honest? Yes. Kind of what the bills are in this game. Why? I like their story. I think it, they have a, they have a long road ahead of them. Dolphins fans are annoyingly cocky and and and bills fans I feel more of a connection to. Obviously we like Josh. We were kind of rivals but we never really overlap too much in the rivalry era. Like the Patriots were really good. The bills are bad. Then the bills got good when the Patriots were bad. And I like bills bills mafia. Dolphins fans are insufferable. Like they're super annoying, they're super cocky, they have in one shit and seeing...

Is that just because you work around Nikki Smokes and Frank the tech? No, I mean, they've always, like Nikki Smokes is definitely a good representation of it, but, and I like Frank, but he's just, you know, doom and gloom. Seeing him melt down is very funny, like watching that game unfold and knowing he's gonna have these clips of him freaking out

It's good seeing them blow a season and somehow lose the AFC East would be funny. Yes. Yes. Hey, you'd be smiling. I would be smiling. It would be awkward would be smiling. The bill would be spinning. The bill's story is yeah, I mean, it's they've been through Going even back to last season. It feels like everything that could go wrong for the bills has gone wrong. For them to maybe run the table. Josh, I'll maybe win MVP. I mean, if you ran the table, you don't want to win the AFC East, you would have a chance. You don't want to play the bills in the playoffs. Yeah. I'm hoping they get to the playoffs. The Cowboys put bills, players on the on like the tackling dummies this week. So I don't know what bowl game they're playing. Is it cheese at bowl or something, but that's

a weird move. It's on the robotic ones that move around. Yeah. Like I don't know if those robotic ones, but it was weird. That is that's a strange move to do. That's a really strange move to do for an NFL team. That's like that's McCarthy just like making it look like he's busy. Yeah. During the week. I also, um, the Cowboys road wins this year. You think you know this. You can actually want you to tell us right? Um, Eagles.

Nope. Remember to step down. Commanders. Nope. Giants. Yes. Wow. Did I heard Cowboys? All right, I should have put you on the spot. The Cowboys Road wins this year. Even beat the Giants on the road. No, you said yes.

I'm a man. No, yes. No, you guys played a shot on Thanksgiving. Chargers, Giants, Panthers. Those teams stink. Yeah. Those are the three road wins. Oh, we thought they're win over the chargers meant something. Yeah, they they are completely different team away from home. Um, I like to bills. What's the line in this game? One and a half? Yeah, I like to bills. It's a good test. If we lose this game, it's like a good wake up call before the playoff. I also think the bills like they are kind of memory. We had Orlovsky on his like put

Josh Allen under center. He they're doing that more now. Yeah James Cook is electric like I'm worried about the bull bills defense in this game But I think that they'll I think it's gonna be kind of a shootout So I like the bills the line moved to two now. Oh, that's probably because we talked about the tackling right now Yeah, yeah, they're listening. They're listening. Okay, Nerdnugget. First up, Ram is running by a car in Williams. He needs 10 more scrimmage yards to hit 1000 on the season. He'd be the first Ram's running back and it's Todd Gurley in 2019 to reach that mark.

He's good. Next up, dude, dude, dude, nerdnugget of the week. Sack attack. Oh, the bills have a lot. I made up that name, I wasn't in the notes. Yeah, man. Thanks, Jake. The bills have a bills for a second. I thought that was not your creation. If you're just, if you're listening to the podcast and not the YouTube, you'd be like, who just walked into the room and punched big cat in the stomach.

Yeah. Maybe now I know why you accidentally skipped two nerd nuggets. No, that wasn't why. I just, the problem is in reality is that we are now no buy bill. So there's 16 or 14 games. That's fair. It's a shitload of games. Yeah.

Sack attack. The bills have allowed the least amount of sacks in the NFL with 18 tied with the chiefs and are tied for third in the league and sacks themselves with 42. Yeah. And I mean, this is the the Cowboys, not only the the road thing that I was talking about how they're very different on the road, the Cowboys defense, while very good has also beaten up and eaten up really bad offensive lines. Yeah, they're very, very good against bad teams. What was that? Did I have that stat?

It was like, they've given up like two, it was last week, 220 points and 40 of them were against like the the giants jets giants twice jets patriots like all these terrible teams, but they did beat the Eagles. Pretty convincingly. Yeah, they did. No, they looked awesome. But that was at the Cowboys Super Bowl. He goes good. We don't know. He goes good. Max, do you want to give us any thoughts about the Monday night game? Oh, no, sorry. We'll do Sunday night and then you give us some thoughts about the Monday night game? Or no, sorry, we'll do Sunday night and then you give us some thoughts about the Monday night game You know we don't usually do it. Ravens Jaguars finishing finish finishing us off. Lupi I

Think I like the Ravens. I don't fucking know. This is a tough game. It's it's weird with a primetime So the Jaguars are gonna have a lot to play for they have the national stage They're gonna have a full house people are pumped. have the national stage. They're gonna have a full house. People are pumped. This is almost a must win for the Jaguars. Yes. If they wanna keep thinking that they're gonna be like a factor in the playoffs,

I think I would like the Jaguars to be three and a half at home. Really? Yeah. Okay. Three and a half at home. It's probably a field goal game either way. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. Cause like the Ravens played an awesome game last week against the Rams, but they also very easily could have lost that. Easily could have lost that because like the Ravens played an awesome game last week against the Rams But they also very easily could have lost that easily could have lost and if they had happened to lose that game last week If or tie even if they don't return that punt for a touchdown. Yep. They get stuck around midfield kick it back Tie is in the realm of possibility. Yep at that point if they had tied that game We wouldn't be thinking about the Ravens going into this game as being like world beaters. That's true.

So I like the Jaguars at home. Okay. Mac or Nerdnugget. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, the only quarterback in NFL history to produce six seasons of 600 plus rushing yards. Yeah, 644 right now. No other quarterback has more than four such seasons. Yeah, really, really fast.

Max, thoughts real quick. I think, I think we can talk about it Sunday. Okay, let's do it Sunday. Well, no, just give me a thought. It sounds like he's not ready. Give me one thought. I am, I have thoughts, but this is a little teaser in the, in the biz, you know?

Give me one thought. You want to talk about it on Sunday? Yeah, that's your thought. His thought is you want to talk about it on Sunday? Yeah, that's your thought. His thought is he wants to talk about. I don't like how Max jumped down my throat about the mustache thing. That seemed perfect. You know, he went, he, he, he, he, I have no, I think the mustache and the, we don't have to replay it. You know, we're, we know what you're saying. It's the sideburns. I don't like the sideburns.

I've had sideburns for 10 years. Hank and I, Hank and I came in very soft on that. And then, yeah, I was very excited. I was talking about in the show, Max came in with a camera, and I was like, what the fuck is on your face? Yes. And then Max just jumped over the top and was like, yeah! I think that looked classy.

I think that it needed that though. I think that it looked super classy. What setting would it be considered classy? Like, Mertle Beach? Super classy. I look, well, Jack, if you're at the slot machine, like, yeah, that's his fuck. Feel like life is a slot machine for me.

Every day I wake up and I hit the slot machine and I've been on a fucking heater. If you're in a bar in like, Destin Florida, you are classy. Yeah, I'll take that. Well, we also, we have a big interview coming up and I was just looking at, I was like, what is this guy thinking

when he's looking at your face right now? What are you talking about? Man, Max. He's doubling down. That's mean, Max. I think I look good. You know what, like haters everywhere. Haters everywhere.

He's like, listen. He's supposed to be hair brothers. I think I look good. I think I look like the perfect example of an American male. Do you die that under the chin beard? No, I don't die that. Match the color. I think it would look good without the sideburns. And I truly mean that.

So lay the fuck off my sideburns. But I think the rest of it will look good. No, get off my boy's sideburns. I think the rest of it will look good. All right, I realize I've had sideburns for the first time. No, but it's like the way that you like shaved it. It's like very purpose. Stop it. I was. I did. I did. I did. Like the line up on the sideburns is. I lined up. I did. What I did last night when I was shaving, I was trying I did, I did like the line up on the sideburns is I lined up. I did last night when I was shaving. I was trying to have it so that the sideburns connected all the way to the mustache, right? That'd be a good look.

Literally like exactly like the civil war continued. Like the civil war. Yeah. And I accidentally nicked part of this side of it and and disconnected it. So I'm like, fuck, now I just got to make it pointy on the sideburns. Keep the mustache as is. But yeah, it would have make it pointy on the sideburns. Keep the mustache as is. But yeah, it would have looked so much cooler if the sideburns connected.

Yeah. It was just like very, it was very zen. Yeah. Okay. Let's do our picks. You're a piece of shit, man. He's just, if you just keep asking questions and you keep going harder, so you know,

layers sort down. Picks. Who's picking first and what are the standings? Memes who's picking first? I think Jake. Okay, I'm picking first. So in the warm up category, the opening act, I have 17 and a half.

Memes has 15. Max has 15. Head to head. Heading into it. And right now, main event one hour. Big cat 19 and a half. PFT 18.

Hank 12 and a half. Hank is five and a half back with eight points remaining So if my math is correct if PFT outgains Hank this week. I believe it would be over because then you'd be six and a half up with six supply Okay, okay, who's who's who's picking first? I'm going to take the dolphins minus nine and a half against the jets. Okay. Um I am going to take the bears Okay plus three against the brains. Okay memes Ravens Jaguars over 42 and a half. Oh Knights

Hey quick announcement here. What what's it called? Hand announcement. I saw that. Hank? Quick announcement here. What? What's it called? Hand announcement. I just saw that. Whoa, I like that. Oh, there you go. You got to get rid of that, Hank.

We're doing at Barzwe River, North in Chicago on Wednesday, a talent show. We're going to have a bunch of people, five minutes, some comedians, some food people, some magicians. Whatever you want to do, we'll put out the link for the submission form, send it in today or tomorrow, we're gonna pick them on Saturday. There's a chance some of them might be going up there for five minutes, test it out. Oh, dude, we'll stay up, nice.

So show up, come Wednesday night seven, parcel over North. Love it. Submit if you want. Town on you in 500 bucks and it gets bought in the Yacht. Yeah. My pick, I think it's gonna be a nuclear nuclear missile whale. Oh first of the year. Oh mega mega lock. Oh mega bomb Chart oh no, it's gonna lose that's tough range. It's gonna lose ramps. Okay cool. Okay minus six and a half against the man I'm gonna lose now It's shit. Who's now that was bad. You want to take the chargers? Yeah. No, I was thinking LA. Uh, okay.

My first pick, I'm going to take the Cowboys bills over 50 and a half. Okay. Yeah. I like that. Points, points. That's a fun game to this for. It's points. Uh, I'm going to take Commander's Rams over 50 and a half.

Love it. Big over. Lander's defense stinks. Sam Howe is going to put up some points. a half. Love it. Big over. Lander's defense stinks. Sam Howe is going to put up some points, I hope. Love it. And. And. I'm going to take.

I'm going to do some crazy. Yeah. Am I new England Patriots? Oh, seven and a half. Oh, oh. Lighthouse. Could be a backdoor. Yeah., lighthouse. Could be a back door. That's a piece. Lighthouse.

Could be back door. OK, I'm going to go Thamadavito plus six, Giants plus six, and the dome, which is not a real dome anymore. Because I crunched so many numbers for this game, I looked at it deeply in depth. I'm going to go with the commander's Rams under. Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh, you see what you're doing? I wasn't familiar with your game! That could be the clencher. It could be, yeah. Or it couldn't tighten the gap. Wow! That could be the clencher. Yeah, I'm committed to it, but I might as well fight.

Yeah, I might as well fight. I'm gonna fight head on. Yeah, you might go fight. Jon Smell, battle the bastards. Yeah, Yeah. Okay. Memes. Eagles minus three. Okay. Three and a half. I see. I see three. I see three. Three it is. Let's go memes. I'm going to go Saints Giant's over. Ooh. Okay. We're looking at, I think, I had a first. Max is sneaky way of letting us know he loves his pie zone. That's not true.

That's not true. Yeah, it is. All right. Jake, finish off. I'm going to go with Bucks Packers over 42 and a half. Okay. Can I change my pick? Nope.

Okay. Also, pancake update. Hank 47. Jake 42, shot on my team, 11 pancakes. Whoa, whoa, what? We're doing personal shout out to them team. Who's near the one doing the stretch? Okay, that's interesting. That's an amazing week from Jake.

That's interesting. As I've said, very interesting. Very interesting. By far the biggest week of the year. Oh Wrong I gave you access to the sheet if you look You know we don't click links. You know we don't do she's not the all of this. No, you know, we don't do sheets I'm gonna keep in track. Yeah, okay Personal shout out just put put it in the record books The referee of this is literally shouting out his own team. So wait, are you in first place Jake? No, yeah, that would be talking to shout out for second place. Yeah, I team for a big week. What are you Max?

Oh, nice. He lost the panther. He's all say the sideburns. Okay, you guys are more than welcome to double check my work. I will not. I know. Okay, you guys are more than welcome to double check my work. I will not I know Hank 47 Jake 42 max 34 PFT 32 big cat 30 memes 27 Tyres so memes are looking memes looking 24 pancakes right now in 24 hours Well, it's 24 hours or 24 pancakes combo. I'm looking 18 It's like an hour for you. You fuck. The announcements today have been on fire. This has been a mean episode. Yeah, it's a loopy. Yeah, we're all low on sleep. Okay, let's do some fantasy Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum I might fucking start him so don't you can't use him people might think you want to sit him But you want to start if you want to pick him up. He's gonna be back real soon I don't know how you get suspended indefinitely what the fuck does that even mean indefinitely

He's out. He's just doing that shit. So it's most stuff to talk about our podcast my Sittum Josh Gady. Oh, he's not playing too well. You have money fantasy team. I want to sit him out. Oh Our handcuff him. He's a little distracted And my sleeper is draintals. Oh, oh, okay that time of year get the draintals out happy on a guy Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, no, draintel, draintel, I made it out of clay. Hey, hey, I'm not ready. I'll draint off. I'll play Yeah Hey, hey, I'm starting ready. I'll trade off a plan. Yeah. Hey, hey, what's up?

Hey, what's up, my Zanz? It's Sean Stalato right here coming at you. Talking to you about my son, Sid and Slipper. I'm starting out, Michael's, because he got fired because of Taylor Swift, respect to Al, respect to the game, Swifties off a cliff with care. I'm also Sid and Drey Montgomery this week. It's been indefinitely and definitely is a long time.

You do not fucking hear me when I said to start them. It's a very, very long time to be suspended. What are they even do? I just attacked a Turkish guy. That's almost like an Italian tradition, huh? My sleeper, I am sleeping, Jerry Judy, and Ju-ju Smith-Ju-sta to let's put together a little Hanukkah. Yeah, L.A. Yeah with Juju and Judy How about that? Oh like it? Oh my Jewish friends out there Jerry Judy up your booty

Muzzle-muzzle. What's up guys? It's Guido DeVito Guido DeVito my stodem is dickie V for no other reason than I missed it But I missed that Paison I missed that fucking guy can't so free good to see he's coming back soon My sit-em Dremon green. Oh good sit-em. Yeah, why would happen with Dremon? He's suspended indefinitely Yeah, that's also what Dremon would say hey, I'm gonna go fight a Turkish guy. You want to come in? I'm gonna go fight a Turkish guy you want to come in Definitely who's caught we taking you know why you got suspended indefinitely? Why he spoiled surviving bar stool on his early show every morning Disgusting yeah indefinitely

My sleeper my sleeper is gonna be Tommy DeVito He's this is it this is gonna be he might be president something. That's a good. I could see it in VP Italian in the in the off in VP most valuable pies on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. You don't like that, Max? I mean, you weren't even doing that. You were just like two fingers. You were just like two. The air. That's also an Italian dancing. Not all Italians are perverse. No, just Italian.

Yeah, but all perverts are Italian. Okay, let's get to our great interview. Jeff Saturday, forward to that PFT. Yeah, Jeff Saturday is going to be brought to you by Apple TV. Mark your calendar. The family plan starring Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Monahan is now streaming on Apple TV Plus and Assassin turned suburban dad takes his unsuspecting family on a road trip to save their lives.

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Talking Ball. It is Jeff Saturday. Jeff, thank you for joining us. We're excited to talk ball with you. Let's start. We have a million questions, but let's start with today, what we're looking at with the NFL and the stretch run because you obviously playing for the Colts, playing deep into the playoffs, you know, many, many

times. What, what is it like right now in the locker rooms around the NFL for some of these contending teams, rolling into December, being, here's where we gotta be with our head at and like how we can finish this season's strong going into the playoffs. Yeah, you know, it's always funny when people talk about like, must wins, like these are the, these as a player are when you feel like must wins

because you wanna have that momentum going into the playoffs, right? So irrespective of the team, or the team that you're playing or where they are on the playoffs, you're really not doing a ton of looking around. You really want to focus on you, understanding that the best ones are going to be there, right? If you're doubtless, you know Philly is going to be there. You know, San Fran is going to be there, right? Detroit is probably going to be... So you already kind of know in your head who the big ones are, you're going to have to be. But you're always a little fearful of... I'll use an example when I was playing Pittsburgh, right?

Like Pittsburgh got hot right at the end of the season. He's named up winning the Super Bowl that year, kind of like a Buffalo this year. That's not the team. If you're in the AFC, you don't want that team getting hot the last four weeks of the season. So from your perspective, hand of your business, try go in with some some mo but you know, and again Hope hope for the other ones to kind of eliminate themselves. You don't want to see again Yeah, I feel like your cold teams were always ground zero for the the rest verse rust debate Yes, you guys would always start out so hot and you'd have your division locked up

You would be the first team that would you get the one seed congratulations And then every year will be like are the colds gonna sit there guys? Are they gonna play there guys in late December? And you probably experienced both sides of that. In your opinion, where do you stand? Like you are the ultimate arbiter, in my opinion, of rest versus rust. What's more important?

Yeah, I think playing is the most important. I think what I learned throughout was timing and rhythm matter, right? Like, and it's one of those things where so many times I thought we had the better team, but not playing up to those points. You got back up, you kind of had to find the rhythm. And it's not that you, the plays are, you know, it's not that you can't execute it. You're not flying around in practice, but when you hit the games, there's just something about being in and out

of the huddle the way you are, in and out of plays the way you are, the transitions that happened during games, flips, turnovers, all those kinds of things. And so I was one of those, as we went on, I was much more about playing. I mean, even the year that we lost the Super Bowl to New Orleans, we had a chance to go undefeated, right? But we pulled our guys

against the jets. We ended up losing that game. But even then, I know we made it to Super Bowl. I still, in my head, I wanted to keep playing because I saw how many times I felt like it hurt us. There's certain guys, obviously, you got to rest, right? Like the guys who are banged up, you don't want to play and you want to make sure that they're ready to roll come playoff time. But for the majority, I would say playing is the way I would want to go. So you mentioned the Saints. They're not really a team that's being talked about right now, but I had a question specific to them that I would love to get your take on. We saw it last week, offensive lineman yelling at Derek Carr coming off the field. I know that they tried to say,

oh, that wasn't a big deal, but my question is, Derek Carr has been injured so much this year. When you're in the locker room, and a guy gets injured as much as he does, and he doesn't want to sit down, is there ever a tipping point where it's like, dude, we're not playing well, you're hurt, like you gotta get healthy,

I know you're tough, but you have to get healthy because you're hurting the team now. For sure, and the problem is is that you're new to that organization, right? And so he wants to show all the, you know, it's kind of that balance, right? It's like, am I the tough guy that everybody believes I am

or people are gonna think I'm soft, so there's this fine balance where guys wanna push through injury as opposed to, I hate fellas, I need two weeks off. If you've been there, right? If you're a paid man, you've been there for 20, you know, 20, whatever it is, right? You've been there forever.

Guys are gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. I think for car, he's trying to build that reputation at the same time, but to your point, guys get frustrated, right? Because if you're not playing to the level that we need you to play to, you are hurting us. And it was always interesting, Bill Pollywood, who's in the Hall of Fame, was our general manager.

And I remember him saying, Saturday, I've been around this game 50 years or whatever it was at that point. He said, I've seen a handful of players that I would tell you, I would take an 80% of this player to 100% of their backup. And you know what, that's factual. There are just few people who are that freaking good that if the guy behind them could play at 100, you're at 80 or 75, man, you're just not adding value.

The game is played in the margins. And there's too many good players. Like it is too many dudes who are that good at 70 80%. Man, you're just, you ain't cutting it. You saw it with Joe Burle a little bit at the beginning of the year when they were struggling. And then in terms of the offensive line, then quarterback, you, you, you've had moments where they've shown you on the sideline, yelling at Peyton. How much of that is like really when you get back in the locker room, you're like, all right, that was in the game. Or does some of it, can some of it linger from time to time?

So for, for a P and I, 100% ended on the field. That was us in practice. There's lots of people all the time, man. If they had cameras in practice, you know, because he was one of those guys that was always trying to push you, right? So he used, and you know, we used Audible's at the line of streamage. So it'd be a freaking Wednesday, bro. We're in seven on seven or not on seven, which is our time to really like run block.

And he's using some arbitrary call that we end use its training camp. Right. You know what I mean, they're always looking around like what? You know what I mean? So then we would get pissed and everybody's having words and, you know, it's going that way. But game time, man, it was always you're in the moment, the minute you walk off the field, you're hugging, there's no there's no issue. I will say that the problem for me is that it's happening as quick as it's happened in with the saints. And so like when you're talking about those experiences, relationships take time to develop.

And it's already happening and dudes are popping off on each other and frustrated with each other. You just begin to wonder, hey, how much of that needs to be calmed down in a lot of like, let's have a real sit down. Let's really get to it. The only time I will tell you as a player, when you're seeing guys at each other in repeated weeks, that's when you know something's really there. If it's timing again, no big deal.

If it's happening in week after week, and you see dudes pointing and yelling across the bench and all that kind of stuff, that's real. Yeah, I was just so on that same play, they didn't help Derek Carr up off the ground either. They walked away from after he got hit. To me, that's a, that's a, like kind of a red flag. You want to help your buddy up? Is it possible for a coach to go back show the team that film

be like, Hey, you didn't help Derek up. You got to help him up next time. What are we doing out here? Like, well, the offensive line actually see that and be like, yeah, you know what, you're right. He is our guy or is that something where like that bridge has been burned already? And if a coach tells you to help him up, it's like, okay, now he's like a charity case where I'm going to go help him up.

This coach told me to. Yeah. No, the coach will definitely say that. And the O-line, I can assure you, the coordinator, the O-line cook, they have had those conversations, right? Head, you know, Dennis Allen's looking at it like, hey, fellas, like we got to get this solved, you know, especially in our division where we can still go win this thing and go make, you know, go make some, hey, fellas, like we got to get this solved. You know, especially in our division where we can still go win this thing

and go make, you know, go make some, hey, he is trying to fix that. Whatever the problem is, rest assured, that is a highlight in their meeting of making sure, hey, O'Long guy, go down and sit down with him and figure this thing out. Like we can't have, cause to your point, everybody picks it up, right?

Media picks it up, fans pick it up and they pick up that feeling. And the last thing you want to know is everybody airing your business. If you do have an issue, let's handle it in-house. Let's not have everybody in the world chatting about us because people see it, man. And that cold shoulder, whether you like it or not, it's pronounced when you're on the field. Does that go both ways? If you fell down on a play, would you, would you hope that Peyton would come over and pick you up? Uh, uh, not Peyton, you know what I mean? Like, but my, like, Edgerton, you know, like those dudes are picking you up, like, you know,

Peo picked you up if he's kind of mixed up in it, but he's got other things to do. But the other all, all I mean, you know, listen, quarterback sank the same, right? I mean, like, like, we don't, I don't need them worrying about picking me up. I'm going to be on the ground every play. We'll get each other up. The other channel, take care of each other. But it is a big deal.

Like it's a big deal when he's not getting picked up. That's your leader, man. I mean, whether you like it or not, on Sundays, he's got to be the dude. Yeah. And everybody's got to be behind him and and riding with him offensively, especially because it matters. They'd all it all starts from there. So, you know, he was mixed up and won. He'd pick you up, but, but he, he, he running into a pile to come get a guy. Let's look at that way. Yes. All right. So one of the biggest stories right now,

when you're looking at the playoff picture is is the Kansas City Chiefs, and they've lost two straight, and they've looked bad offensively. So maybe you could draw on your own career, but the wide receivers are bad. They have not played well. How much, I don't think it gets really talked about because everyone's like, oh yeah, the other bad patch from home is good.

How much pressure does it end up being on that wide receiver room, knowing they have the best quarterback in the league Like if that happened with the cults and patents like get the ball there But guys are dropping it because I think that's an element that we're not really talking about that They have not performed well, but there's also so much added pressure because everyone's like hey Patrick Well, it's the best you guys got to figure it out It's enormous listen, I can assure you,

those dudes go back every Monday after that Sunday game and they're stomachs hurt. Like it, because it is a, to your point, it is a significant amount of pressure coming not only from internally,

you know, in the building, everybody knows, right? But people, you know, I heard everybody go, or they screaming at Tony after that play. No, man, because everybody knows, like, he don't need to be screamed. And he knows what he did, right?

And so it's, it's the, it's the, it's the elephant in the room. Everybody already knows it's there. Now the outside perception of, and you're seeing, and we used to talk about, like, drops or contagious. Because again, as you're thinking about it so hard now, instead of just letting your athletic ability take over, you're like trying to find hard now, instead of just letting your athletic ability take over, you're like trying to find focus on, don't screw this up. And you see guys get tense, all of a sudden,

they're not making the plays, they should make or they normally make. But it's deeper than that for the cheese for me. Like, for whatever reason, and I know they played together last year, minus Smith, Schuster, all that kind of stuff. But the routes, like how, you know, you think about how precise Andy Reed

and that offense is and the West Coast offense is in general, right? I mean, everything is scripted out. I mean, you know, everything, a slant is a disslant. You know, you're gonna hear it this time. Everything is timing in that offense. And that's why, like a couple of years ago, when people were playing two high safeties,

everybody's like, what's messing up the rhythm? It's messing up the timing, right? You can't figure it out. But the receivers aren't where they're supposed to be. And I think that part to me is the most frustrating to my home. I think that's why he had to blow up is because when the guys aren't there, it doesn't matter

how good you are as a quarterback, you're gonna be pissed, bro, because that's like, that's like job one. And his frustration showing the way it is, hopefully it lights a fire under them that they all connect or they shrink the playbook down so they can all die a little on the same page. But there is an enormous amount of pressure right now, because everybody, nobody's going to blame this on Patrick Mahomes and nobodyomes and their defense is playing lights out. So when all the lights get shine, it's going to that receiver room

and unfortunately they haven't met the challenge as of yet. But it's definitely fixable, but it's bigger than just the drops. This thing is getting out of hand a little bit. Yeah, sounds like it's mental a little bit. So put on your head coaching hat. If Jeff Saturday the head coach stepped into the Kansas H.E.S. locker room, what do you do to fix that?

I'm asking Patrick and I'm asking receivers, what do you guys want? Like, are we overdoing this? Are we putting too much in? You know, what, tell me what is the problem? Why we can't all get on the same page. Do we need to shrink it down? Do we need to shrink the package down at times in a season.

And I would tell you this for, yeah, I was one of the best offenses for, you know, for 14 years, right? Like we were always good. We were always in the top, whatever that was. You know, top one, five, whatever it was, we would have these conversations about sometimes you keep adding so much that you forget to fall back to the fundamentals and And at some point that might be what they're talking about now is hey, let's dial this back, man Let's run this play. Let's run our favorite five instead of running those two times a game

Let's run them three times a game, or come back to that play. Another part too, let me just say it this way, like the enemy not being there, it matters. Like I'm not saying it. Andy Reed and NGD's guys aren't great coaches, but the enemy had some, he had some nastiness about him, right? Like he had some significant conversations with their players, whether that's my homes

or other people. And with him not being there, it does get into a place where maybe some things have been allowed or tolerated to a different degree. I don't know how to frame it, but I do think the enemy not being there, you know, hurts because those players in the room, but ultimately the guys who have to execute it.

Yeah, yeah. All right, I told you, I'm a Bears fan, I had to ask one question, you were like, oh yeah, ask me all the questions about the Super Bowl. I know you want, I know you want to hear all the questions about the Super Bowl, but it's a two-part question. The first will be about the Super Bowl,

the second will be about today's game. When you guys were doing the meeting, you know, Super Bowl meeting before the Bears, was there like a whiteboard that was like Rex Grossen's gonna give us at least this penny turnovers? You guys have it like penciled in like don't worry about it like we don't have to be perfect because he will give us a few. You will actually you will actually love this. No, Tony Dungee was like this with every, I tell people all the time, I think God I've never heard Tony Dungee like,

talk about me in a, in a early week hoppet, you know, competitive manner. Like who knows, he would have said, I was the way I'm a bottom center. You know, like, like, he's one of the worst in our game. Like, this dude talked about Tom, right? He'd be like, yeah, he'll give us two or three chances to make some plays.

We just, you know, like, he never, he be like, yeah, he'll give us two or three chances to make some plays. We just, you know, like he never, he never like pump dudes up. So to your point, let's just say we weren't really scared of roast. Yeah. We're all gonna have it on the outside with the bears at that moment. Yeah. That. All right. So that leads me right next one.

I knew that was the answer. But I had to ask anyway, give you, give you a win there. Um, the, the cold Super Bowl run that year. One of the craziest parts was you guys weren't a good defense. And I kind of put it all together at the end stretch run. Two teams right now that have Super Bowl aspirations, the Eagles and the Lions are in that category

where their offense is great, their defenses look bad. Is there, what is the fix this late in the season where it's like even if we can go from a C minus to a B minus We now have a real chance to win this thing. What yeah, how does that happen? Yeah, the devil's in the details. I mean, I can literally remember this conversation of that year I don't know if you guys remember this we played the Jaguars man And I think it was like MJD and Fred, I think both of those dudes ran for like a butt 50 or 200 yards each. I think we gave over 300 yards.

Like literally they both pulled their hamstrings because they were so fatigued from how many freaking yards we had given up, right? And we get boat raced. And I remember we go back and it was Monday and we're going back. And Tony gets in front of the whole team. And he's like, man, we just didn't really line up correctly. And I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, what are you talking about? Like this cannot be an alignment issue, right?

Like we got freaking boat raised. And he's like, man, it's, it's so simple. We can fix all these problems. And if we do this, this and this, and it was like, he was prophetic. He's like, if we line up correctly here and we put our will here and our Sam turns the ball back inside and he went through the whole thing, y'all. And it was, it was like, we started doing that. And when they started, they shut down Kansas City in like an incredible rushing attack. I mean, it was just, it was like a light bulb switch went off and it completely changed.

And it was such a great lesson in life because it really all comes down to the details. And if you look at the Eagles, right, and you look at Detroit and the mistakes that they're making, all of them are correctable. And it's not, you know, because you always see people go, oh man, this player can't, yeah, he can't.

That player's there for a reason, they got two great corners. They got good, you know, that they have it played well in the back end. They're, you know, their, their linebackers have been banged up. They haven't gotten sacks when they should, but again, all of those things are in the minutiae, right? And so, um, to your point, both teams have problems that are definitely fixable. This is not a necessary scheme problem or a, but this is two new

coordinates, especially for the Eagles, two new coordinators figuring this thing out on the run. Offense hasn't run it as well as they did last year. So that puts more pressure on the Eagles defense. Like there's so many different things, but as far as fixing it, man, absolute, like, I said this on TV that a day, man, it drives me great. Like we've written the Eagles off. Really? Like they beat some freaking great day. I had two bad weeks.

San Fran lost three in a row. You know what I mean? It's like, how do you, I just don't write teams off like that. There are too many, they're too good. You know, these players can fix it. And I think the Eagles over these next four, you know, get right games, we'll get right and figure this thing out. The problem, I will say this, the problem for both teams, Jaylin, you know, he's got

15 turnovers already, like he had eight last year. That is a problem. And the same, and you look at golf, that's killing the, that's killing the Lions. Like the Lions don't have the same margin that the Eagles have And that's the biggest difference for them right is like at the lions make mistakes They're probably gonna lose the Eagles can make mistakes and still win. It's just a tougher way of going about it Yeah, it's good points because we I mean we're the number one culprits of writing teams off I write a team off on Sunday night. I have figured out the whole league and I've decided how everything's gonna go.

It's really whoever lost the most recent primetime game. Yeah, it's like the one that's on national television. It's like they're done for the year. I don't see them making it come back. We were very much prisoners at the moment in that respect. On a recent primetime game, your former teammate Peyton Manning, start talking about your butt a little bit. He did some ass talk with Jeff Saturday, and he said that he could tell your ass apart from other centers based on how it felt. So I want to give you the opportunity to respond to that and say,

could you tell Peyton Manning's ass, if you were blindfolded, could you tell Peyton Manning's hand in your ass apart from Aaron Rogers' hand in your ass? So, you know, I like what you're framing that. Yeah, but I, so nothing's, I don't, I like what you're framing that. Yeah. But I, so not, nothing's in, okay? It's placed on.

All right. So no, no, no recognize the way that he would take a snap as opposed to everybody else. It is, and so I don't know the softness of his hand. I don't any of that. None of that. And you know, this is my, this is, this is what he does every, by the way, he does this every, he loves to take a little shot and just leave it out there. I mean, I've answered this question a thousand times this week. And he just sits back since a little text. Hope you enjoy that right. I think holidays, you know, I mean, that's he and Eli, but they love doing it. They just they set it up as well as anybody. Yeah. So another thing with, you know, you get your hands in or on guys got a hands in or on your ass. I don't know if you saw this clip but CJ Stroud a couple

weeks ago made his center changes jersey in the middle of the game because he was too sweaty. Did you did Peyton ever do that with you? It's like such an emasculating thing to be like, your gross go change. Yeah, no, listen, you like, especially early in the season, when I first started playing in NFL, we were in the ASEE, so we had like games in Miami, right? And even when we started doing the Jacksonville games late in the season, and dude, you're sweating. And so it does, it'll mess with the snaps, it'll mess with everything.

And so you got a couple pair of pants, you can run in and jog in or they have a towel, they'll throw around you, you'll strip your pants. Now I've never had to change my jersey. So obviously whoever this is, swampy. I wasn't swampy like that, but I did have to change my pants, but not the, not the jersey thank God. Yeah.

I did see Tom Brady had his center. He would have like two towels. That was just wedged up there the entire time. Did you play with the towel? Yeah, I had to, I kept a towel on my side, just for my own hands and, and he kept, Peyton always kept a towel in his, in his his in his belt so he can wipe his hands But we you know listen, then we we would talk about I would ask him I mean, you know like you can't help the sweat, bro

Like it like figure it out. You know what I mean? And listen, they don't bother me a bit I don't worry about the sweat I don't worry about the smell. We're about none of it. I got I got a job to do you figure the rest of it out That's why you get paid the big bucks. Yeah. So from your expert opinion, who would you say right now as the best offensive line in football? Ooh, good question.

Thank you. Oh, man, that is a great question. Great question. Thank you. You don't even have to answer the question. That was perfect. That was a perfect answer. Yeah, I'm sure.

I'm honestly, I'd listen, because the cults were ballin'. They were offensive line was playing really well. Um, the Eagles, I would say the Eagles have to be up there. They played excellent. Um, those are probably, those are probably the best that I would put in the group right

now. But here's the thing like Buffalo has actually had a really good O line season. Like they played good ball. There's been some teams that have been kind of beaten up, you know, in years past about their o-line play that have really made some improvements. I thought,

I think Dallas as the season has progressed, they've gotten better. Like they've, you know, smith on the inside has become dominant. Like he had a freaking whale of a game against Philly, man. I mean, Robin dudes tossinging Dudes out the club like he's getting physical. But yeah, so probably the Eagles to me are probably the best. And you know, but the problem with the Eagles is everybody's always hating in Johnson always gets criticized about, you know, jumping early and the push push everybody gets pissed about that. But I like the way they play. I think they're I think they're're freaking, and I, Kelsey's Hall of Fame freaking, you know, one of the greatest to ever do,

and I love watching that do play. I would say like it's not, it's not off-size unless they call it. If you're an offensive lineman, you take every single inch that they give you until they start throwing the flag, and then you adjust, but yeah, if they're gonna let you get away with it,

then yeah, I want my tackle to do that same thing. Heck yeah, how stupid, this is what it draws to be crazy about. It's like, well, it's cheating. So is holding, I held every play. I'm not holding. If I'm being caught, but if you think I'm not going to, like Howard Mudder, our O'Line Coach, God rest his soul,

he's like, God gave you thumbs for a reason. Use a right, like, make that guy do it. Like, you know, don't be stupid to get it, but if you're inside, you grip those guys, same thing for where you align. I mean, imagine this, I'll tell people, tell them, go for your job. Go line up and go block miles, Gary.

And tell me you're not gonna try to back up this fast. You can get the fastest. This dude is 290 pounds running a four five and can bench press every bit of 500 pounds. You wanna go lock up with that dude? Like give me a freaking round. I put him on his ass. I'm cheating until they catch me, too.

But I got no shame in saying it. Yeah. I play hat to hat football. I put them on his ass. Yeah. I go forward, not backwards, but I was scared. Did you actually, would you adjust what color gloves you would wear?

So it would be harder for the referees to tell if you were holding? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You'd go wider dark, depending on what you had. For sure. Yeah. You're going to wipe love on a, you know, a poem in a way you always make sure.

You didn't want, now some dudes didn't because they use like the, they take their gloves and they would put like the little cast in their gloves for their fingers. So if their fingers are all mangled, you know, the booger ball and you know, fingers go everywhere. So they put that stud, their splints in their gloves.

I changed, I hated the way the glove smelled. So I was one of those guys, I'd change them. So if I was gonna get some white jerseys, you'd white them up and vice versa. You wanna give the referees any advantage of seeing what you're doing. That's very smart. All right, we're big gamblers on this show.

And we like narratives. So there's a roundabout way to ask about your time with the cults last year. We're big interim head coach guys. And you saw it. You obviously won your first game. Wasn't, you know, season one great after that. But as you step in that room, can you feel the energy?

Can you feel that guys are like, oh, yes, this is new, like they're running harder. They're going to the ball harder. Like everything's crisper because we love it. Whenever an interim head coach comes You know that you got a couple games where guys are gonna be flying around and everything's gonna look different No doubt so my so we so we so from my experience we go beat Vegas in Vegas and the dudes play lights out and we had the Eagles at home Then they were I think they either lost one or been undefeated.

And we really, we lost it on the last play of the game. Herch runs it in and we made a mental error on defense and herch runs it in. But it was a tight game. We had to lead until the very end. But 100% energy changes when an interim coach walks in. Because at list list, and I like, when coaches get fired, players get fired.

That's just reality, right? Because the next guy's coming in, he's bringing his guys. He wants bigger ol' laminor, smaller ol' laminor, you know, pass rushers on defense, not run stoppers, different corners, whatever it is, right? He's going to have his own way. So it has definitely gotten, you know, the player's attention. I would tell you, the hardest part is managing the other coaches, because this is their lives and think about what they're going through.

I felt awful for the, like I can't tell you how, I mean, it would keep me up. It literally gutted me thinking, I mean, these guys are going to lose their job at the end of this year. And it wouldn't have mattered how well, like, they weren't keeping their jobs if I did a good job or not, like, I'm not saying it that way, but it's still, it's a weight. And you, you know, man, and it's like, guy, you just, you, you feel the, it's, it's a, it is a difficult situation to go through. And in my situation, and I guess it would be most others, like whether it's an assistant coach who's been on the staff, like, I love Frank.

I think Frank's a hell of a football coach. Man, I think he's a smart dude. I think he's one of the best play-cars have ever been around. And I like him personally, as a human being, and as a man, he's one of my favorite people. So, those other coaches went to work for him, and those players came because of him. You know, so yeah, you're working with a lot of emotion. And it was one of the atlas and I love

I love doing it. I love the opportunity. I can't I can't tell you how much I appreciate Indianapolis and and what I got from that that organization as a whole. I knew it was not going to be good. Like you don't go in thinking I I'm going eight no, right? Like if you wanted to win games, Frank should have stayed there because he, you know, he would have given you the best chance. They wanted to make a move and so they decided to go that way.

Yeah. Was there like one percent of you this year when the colds fired Frank Reich that thought or the Panthers, yeah. I started the Panthers fired Frank Reich where he thought, my phone, Maybe I'm gonna get a call. Maybe let's see if we can run this back for one week. I would not have answered that call either way,

but I would tell you this, I went about three days and I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't on Twitter or X, whatever it's called now. And I bring up my phone and there was a thing, Saturday, the Panthers have signed Saturday as the coach or something like that. And I actually went back at the guys,

like this is well played, sir. And it blew up. It was good, it was, you know, it was well played, well timed, but no, I had those calls would not have been, I'll answer for one team, and that's the one I did it for last year, the rest of them, bro, they ain't for me. I do like to link you to every possible opening job being like just Saturday. Probably getting called to come back to the interim to bring him in

for one week and let him work his magic. When Jim Mersey called you, we're big Jim Mersey fans on this program. He got Dan Snyder out. We think he's entertaining, engaged, unique individual, like a very, very unique owner. When he called you, did you at first think, like, is this a joke? Is he serious? Or what was the pitch like that he gave you? No, there was no joke. I, to your point, if you, you know,

I'm sure you've interviewed Jim or been around Jim, he is a fun and entertaining guy. That conversation was not fun and entertaining. It was, it was as fun and entertaining guy. That conversation was not fun and it was it was as demanding and forceful a conversation as ever had with Jim. Like he was, he was, we're gonna do this, you know, now let's let's get this figured out. I remember my wife looked at me go, are you, my wife was like, are you crazy? I miss midnight or one o'clock at whatever time it was super late, you know, it's Sunday night. I had been hunting with my youngest son in my wife.

Like, we were hunting. I just come out of a field. I was in a, like, it was, it was, it was a surreal as it gets. And he's like, you know, I want to get this done. And, you know, what, what is this house that's going to look? And it was, but no, there was no playing around. It was, this is, this is what I expect.

Here's what my ask is. And I told him frankly, I was like, Hey, man, we're gonna go O and A. And you know, just just know, like whatever your thoughts are, like this ain't. And I mean, I don't know, you know, I had helped with Frank talking about the old line. But I know, I don't know, Matt, I don't know I don't know any of those guys, right? Like it's so this is gonna be, but but Jim had made up his mind. and it was, it was a serious conversation as I'd ever have with Jim. And, and, you know, again, you never have another one like that,

but it was, he was, he was for real. He was, he was as locked in as I had ever seen him. Did you last question about coaching last year? Did you ever have a moment because whenever we have an interim head coach, the team is bad out of the playoffs. Did you ever have a moment down the stretcher, you're like, fucking, I'm gonna go for it. Who cares?

What's the worst thing that happened? I'm an on-site kicker, who cares? Listen, bro, I had that moment a lot. I mean, it was like, what was the, I never felt like, hey, whatever I'm gonna do is gonna be this massive. And this is the part that kills you is the Minnesota game, right? Where everybody comes like it's a record setting.

You had this lead and we blow the lead and do all this kind of stuff. And everybody, I said, they were like, what did you feel like at halftime? I was like, I was scared of death at halftime. And they were like, what? I was like, man, we had gotten the ball four or five times. We didn't score a touchdown on offense. We had to kick long field goals. scared of death at halftime. And they were like, what was like, man, we had gotten the ball like four or five times.

We didn't score a touchdown on offense. We had to kick long field goals. We couldn't move it. And I felt like everything had been, you know, bounce star away. And in the second half, it started going their way. And I said, the best feeling I had was it was fourth and inches. And or a 57 yard field goal.

And Bubba and I, the special teams coach, who's not Cleveland, I was like, Bubba, what do you think he's like? I was like and I, the special teams coach is not Cleveland, I was like, Bubba, what do you think he's like? I was like, I'm thinking of Go and he's like, I would too. That's a deep one right now. And so I was like, I perfect. And we don't get it, right? And the next play they throw a screen to Justin Jefferson

or to Dalvin Cook, it's freaking yard, right? And now that's two point conversion, it's time, it's whatever. And everybody's like, you regret it. I'm like, heck no, I don't regret it. I'm gonna put it all on the O-line every time. And so I never felt like that. The only time I ever felt like this was meant to be,

one in seven was the Houston game. When we have them down like fourth in 20 twice, and they throw these bombs at one time, time my DB jumps like at the five yard line It goes over It's just you know you can't it's like angels and outfield bro. You can't script it and you're like well sometimes you're saying meant to be Yeah, and that's why the bears. Yeah, they're number one overall pick. Yeah, yeah, and that's what we flipped it It was a but I was one of my favorite games of the season. I probably was the best Bears game in the season. And they weren't involved.

It was. I was happy. So I've been all year. My favorite part is the Texans fans and all love me because of because of a few things that have happened. So that's true. Whatever I can do to take that take that negative alternative positive. I'm all I'm here for it.

I love it. So give us your your official prediction here. Give us the AFC NFC championship games and your Super Bowl winner. Oh, we're gonna hold you to it. Oh, I'll go. I'll go I think it's gonna be Hmm. I hate writing Kansas City off, but I'm and I'm gonna say I'm gonna say KC in Baltimore in the AFC I think Baltimore is gonna go and I think I think San Fran Y'all gonna make you pick right I'm picking way early. I don't like doing it. I'll say I Know I'm taking San Fran and I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Philly

I'm gonna take San Fran and Quillie and I'm gonna take San Fran walking through it to play so it'll be it'll be San Fran and and Baltimore in the in the chip. Ooh, all right. And who you got? That would be great Super Bowl. I'm going to San Fran. I mean, if it helped wise, I'm just telling you, if they stay healthy, they're a tough out.

I feel like, so yeah, you know what, y'all like this. The one thing I learned that I would tell you, I did not put nearly enough emphasis on as a coach or really as in the last 10 years that I hadn't been playing is explosive plays. Like if you look at any trend that really direct, even more than turnovers, that direct games, wins and losses, it's big plays.

And right now San Fran leads the league offensively and defense. It's a fact. I think they win a dood off. If you just sit down and name dudes that they have, yeah, I think San Francisco has more dudes per capita than yeah. Yeah. It was yeah, we talked about it on Sunday.

They they had four guys go for plays over 40 yards. That's what they have. They have these guys that every single one of them can break a huge play on you and go and they fight for each other to you. Like if you go back and watch like Kittle block downfield, Iute blocks downfield, Debo is leveling people downfield. Everybody's put McAfrielle push the pot like like these dudes are about it for each other. And and when you get when the ball has to be dispersed as much as it is on their offense, like to get all those guys to buy it, I think Debo Samuel, like no one

to I think he's an MVP, right? Because if you see the way he plays and like look at their team when he's not on the field, it's as reflective as Tyree Kill. Like this dude is, he is a freaking grown man, bro. And he is about it in all phases. He ain't afraid to lay his hat in there and make somebody hurt. Yeah, I respect that guy.

All right, a couple last questions. This one's a little weird. I was lucky enough, I was down in Minneapolis for the final four, I think in 2015, I was lucky enough to go to a dinner. I think it was at St. Elmo's, we sat downstairs in a private room and they said it was Peyton's room. And they told me that Andrew Luck ordered chicken usually there.

That made me concerned. I was like, oh, nervous person. Sure. Yeah, what was the private room like after, after a win? Because I would assume you were there a bunch and what did Peyton usually order? Oh, stellar. But, you know, it was funny.

He, he, he actually has a couple places there. Downstairs and upstairs, but it was, uh, yeah. It, it, it, it always was like a, um, um, uh, more like apps being passed out, right? Like, like, like, everybody's gonna kind of be passed out, spread around. It's always gonna be a fantastic affair. You know, adult beverages would be flowing, celebrations going on.

And then he had an apartment down there that we all would go to and enjoy. So, yeah, man. We won a lot, we had a good time, man. We had a great, I tell people, we had, it was so much more about the relationships than anything else. That's why we were as good as we were.

We all enjoyed each other, man, our wives, and significant others all got along, and we all hung out. And that was, you know, that's what made it so much more fun. It wasn't like one guy went one play, but we all hung out,, that was pretty special. The winning an NFL game on a Sunday and then going to dinner with the boys has to be a top feeling. No doubt.

Yeah. It is not listen. There is nothing better. Like when you, because you think about it, like you only, you only get at the time it was 16. And so eight of them are at home. Your families are there and everybody understands that. So like, yeah, man, you know, bring Nana and Paul Paul, right? Bring, bring Mimi and

Grabby, whatever it is, whatever, whatever you call your people, right? It's like, bring them, listen, and so your family gets to experience situations and people they would never, you know, I remember the first time, you know, Kenny Chesney is chillin' and I remember my family, they love some country music and they're like, holy crap, like that's Kenny Chesney. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, but the situations that they get a chance to be a part of that kind of become, you know, normalized for what you're doing for this short stint in your life, man, it is an incredible feeling.

You get the chance to share it with everybody. It's, there is not a better feeling of winning in a NFL, like you said, and celebrating, man, it does not get better than that. Yeah. My last question was gonna be about Joe Flacco and the job that he's done with the Browns. Coming in almost like an interim quarterback,

like three quarters of the way through the season, stepping in, I would imagine that as an offensive lineman, he's a good guy to block for, because you he's not going to be moving around in the pocket. You know he's going to take his drop back. He's going to get rid of the ball. Would you rather block for a guy like that or for a guy like a russ a Wilson who moves around a little bit. Don't really know where he's going to be. Like Joe Flacco. I think what we're seeing is actually like sustainable in a weird way for this Brown's offense. 100%. I'll take the Flacco model all day.

Like I have no problems design roll outs. Like what San Frayton, you know, you're trying to get the quarterback out of the pocket or you're moving him to a certain place. We used to call it like waggle. Where the quarterback's gonna line up, you know, maybe out or on where the attacker would normally be. I do not wanna do those to back their float and around.

Like, I want to know he's six yards right behind where I started that snap, man. We can all function and play understanding where he is. And also from the quarterbacks perspective, knowing that he understands timing of when the ball has to come out. That's the part that Flacco does that I think people don't give him nearly enough credit is he's not a holder of the ball. Even some good ones there in a fight, they'll hold that thing an extra second.

Man, he manipulates the pocket extremely well and the ball is coming out. And from an O-line perspective, you, not only do you fatigue the D-line because they get worn out having to charge you, but they get pissed off. Like I can remember, I mean, if I heard it, I wanna heard it a million times, You fatigue the D line because they get worn out having to charge you, but they get pissed off. I can remember, I mean, if I heard it, one, I heard a million times, guys will be Russian

Manning and the ball would come out so fast, they would have to turn transition and go chase the ball, right? The pursuit drill on D and they're exhausted, man. And they're like, are you asking kid me, brother? Go chase this again. Like I gotta, and even if it's a five year old little pop pass, they gotta turn and run. And man from an offensive line, I love it. It's as good as it's a good as a run game to me.

Those dudes are getting tired, they're getting aggravated, they're yelling at each other, do this, get this. You can't run games nearly as well. All of that happens because of a pastor knowing where he's supposed to be in the pocket. And all the great ones do it, man, whether it's my homes, whether it's Drew Breeze, Tom Brady,

Pete Manning, like Aaron Rogers, two of the, like all those dudes get it. Ball has got to come out, man, on time. And he's making, he's making a great offensive line, look even better. I've never really thought about it from that perspective, but yeah, that would suck if you were defensive player. And you just had, you rushed for like three seconds,

and then no matter what, you were going to have to stop and then turn around and run again. Oh, listen, I loved it. So, Bonnie Holliday, I played against him. All right, I played with him at North Carolina. He was a first round pick. I think he played 17 years, but he played in Green Bay in a bunch of defensive linemen. And I used to tell Bonnie, hey, Bonnie, you never got a sack on me, bro. I locked you up.

He'd be like, Saturday. It's because he throws a bowl in two seconds. I'd be pushing your last back, but I can't get that. I was like, Hey, man, it all goes together. No sacks. Zero made 100 for me. Zero for you. That's how we win. Yeah. It's where those dudes get hot because they make money on sacks. Yeah. So they can't freshen or get a sack, dude. They get frustrated and it fatigues them for sure. Yeah. All right. Last question, rowback question. You're wearing rowback right now.

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it's just fuck Duke. Absolutely. Yeah, reach that. Right, all right, yeah, that's all I wanted to say. Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, I mean, they're losers, right? Losers. Losers.

Muckeys. Losers. Losers. Losers. Doorkes. Losers. Just the worst. That's it.

Yeah, wasn't even a question just a state That's the greatest thing we've said all day Well Jeff, thank you so much. We love to have a neon man We'll definitely have you back on and love watching you and talk about ball and and so thanks so much man Let's do it again soon. I'll appreciate y'all have a great one again soon. Felt's appreciate y'all. Have for the holidays The family plan now streaming on Apple TV+. Okay, let's wrap up. We got fire fest of the week The week boys. Good week. Thank you

You don't know what you're gonna say I was I Know the announcement was actually gonna be that. Oh you you cooked yourself cooked myself. Yeah um I'm gonna guess the the dump button I kind of got yelled at by Dave this week using the office To be a threat fair though Nobody thought that Ben Mence would need any sort of delay on a broadcast he was doing well We all knew we we needed a dump button. I was discussed. Today was like, you can't go on without a dump button and conversations, I thought there was gonna be a dump button.

But the mistake was that when I found out there wasn't a dump button. You asked about it. All right. Yeah. In hindsight, it was a mistake. Which a job title. But in double hindsight,

which you're looking back on your hindsight, it was actually a great move because the content that came out of it was fantastic. So, in a weird way, it was actually my best producing of ever done. It also wasn't great when the VP of content was being asked about the lack of dumb buttony chuckled as he was getting warmed up for his morning 18 for us to play all simulated. You're playing golf. It's like, yeah, you know, there's not really any time to fix that. So are we done here? Well that we were But that was a T time that was a work. Yeah, that was work. I was good. I thought that I thought that your fire fest was gonna be that I beat you in golf.

That happened as well, but that was work. So it was kind of just like, you know, you know, you try not to bring the works of home. Yeah, and let it You try not to bring the works of home. Yeah, and let it weigh on your mind. Yeah, but I did beat you in golf and you owe me what $190 with a chili. $290. $290 with a chili. Yes, can I go with you? Yeah, absolutely. Take it right, Hank's pain.

Love it. Love it. It's my announcement. OK, PFT, your finance. Announcement slaps. Yeah, it does. It slaps. Big fan.

For sure, Jake loves it. I had a pretty clean week, so I don't really want to complain too much. I shave and weak. Yeah, what's don't really want to complain too much. I- Shaving week. Yeah. What's that? Like you shaved your face out. Yeah, no, that's definitely out of fire fest.

My fire fest and I look too good right now. I look awesome and it's making the haters jealous. That's fact. I have one final question. No. No. Because again, I was so not bored, but I was just like, have a dd I just get I get distracted I can't sit still I was just hyper focus on the on the beard the mustache the color I was trying to like double check is it I was pretty competitive. It looks great. Yeah

Did you even it out today? No? Yesterday it looked very heavy on the left side and on the right side was a little bit lighter. Maybe that's the lighting No, I did not I did not touch it today., I might have been my angle. I did not touch it today. I dyed it a few days ago. I reapplied yesterday and I think that it got darker. So I think the longer it's darker. Is it, is it, is it die? But I was like, it's so dark on the left side

and it's not as dark on the right side. That was the tell. No, that's actually because on the right side, I don't think I have as much facial hair. Again, I am face bald. I have the facial hair of... Please be nice. Like a 14-year-old, this is medical condition.

Be kind. So, I'd appreciate it if you just stepped off. Maybe it's jealousy. Yeah. Sounds like it. It could be jealousy. But I've had a pretty good week overall. My fire fest is that I am into a weird corner of TikTok recently.

So I was golfing with the beef and Jake last week. And sorry, he couldn't make it Hank. You were working, were. Golfing. But I got into magnet fishing. And I've been watching TikToks of magnet fishing for the last like five days. Do you know what magnet fishing is?

I do not. So you take a magnet and you throw it into a river. And then you just bring up whatever metal is at the bottom of the river. And it's usually guns, you find a lot of guns. Oh yeah, I've seen this. And you do it in Amsterdam, it's sick. Yeah, it's pretty cool, you can find bikes.

Yes, yes. So I've been watching that because the beef put me onto it, and me and the beef just invested heavily in magnet fishing magnets. Love it. And so we're gonna go out and try to do, try to find some guns.

Do you think there are any guns in the Chicago rivers? Might be. Maybe one or two. Dave Matthews poop Dave Matthews poop is that metal? Yeah, it's too soft to be metal. I think it's gonna. Oh, no stop this You're putting up pictures civil war chair. That looks nothing. It looks nothing max. It's yeah, it's resemblance Listen, I did mention I did mention blackbird early in this podcast, and if you've watched it, you probably are connecting some dots about the sideburns. But Max is being a hater right now,

and there's nothing that you can say to make me feel less good in my own body. Yeah, I love this body. Yeah. So yeah, I'm into magnet fishing right now. That's good. And I think it's important to have hobbies, and so my hobby is gonna be finding guns.

Nice. I like that. I'd like to come along one time. Now that's good and I think it's important to have hobbies and so my hobby is gonna be finding guns nice I like that. I'd like to to come a long one time. Yeah, it's magnet fishing. Okay my fire fest I Live with terrorists not the not the shaman dermits kind My kids are just like the the for all the out there, putting your kids to bed at night is like, it's a war. And I'm losing bad. Yeah, so my four and a half year old son the other night,

there's no locks on the doors, but I, he was not going to bed and I was like, listen, I'm locking your door. He's like, you can't lock my door. I was like, oh, I can lock your door. I'll find a way to lock your door. And so he, like, it, I'm locking your door. He's like, you can't lock my door. I was like, oh, I can lock your door. I'll find a way to lock your door. And so he, like, it was actually kind of scary because he matter of fact,

look me in the eyes, he goes, if you lock that door, I'm gonna scream so loud that no one is gonna sleep. And I had, I immediately was like, all right, listen, the door thing, that was a lie. I was lying about that. I can't lock your door, but like, this is my night to night where it's like, I'm helpless. What can you do against that?

No, that was the scariest thing I've ever been apart was like, I will scream so loud that everyone's gonna wake up. That's actually a genius move because you have no defense against that as a parent. You can't cover his mouth. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad to do anything.

He also, every morning, I take him to school, I pick him up from school, and the only thing he wants to listen to is Taylor Swift. So, yeah. I like it. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of, listen, a lot of shake it off. It is funny though, because he was like,

is this the song about the bad guy? And I was like, yeah, that's every Taylor Swift song. Yeah, the guy that wronged. Yeah, the bad guy. The bad guy in every song. But yeah, I'm going Taylor Swift song. Yeah, the guy that wronged. Yeah, the bad guy. The bad guy in every song. But yeah, I'm going through it. We're gonna figure it out the night time. I think everyone's listening to his parent knows.

It's a new adventure every night. So I've got a puppy that's pretty much the same thing as raising a child. And when Blake is getting barky, what I like to do with him is I take either a bully stick, which is just like a treat, which I actually, this kind of sucks, I made the mistake of googling with a bully stick. Oh yeah, it's bull penis.

It's bull penis. So you're just feeding your dog a bull's penis. Yes. Or I give him like a bone to chew on. Is there any way that you can just give your son something to chew on? Yeah. And then he won't scream.

Yeah. Maybe. Just take it for a walk. Yeah, take it for a walk. Yeah, a little poop outside. You can jingle the keys in front of him. Yeah. You wanna go for right in the car? Throw a little toy, squeaky toy. Yeah, little poop outside. You can just jingle the keys in front of you. Yeah, you wanna go for right in the car? Throw a little toy, squeaky toy.

Yeah. All right, Jake, wrap us up. Pretty clean week for me as well, but my streak of not having a bathroom emergency during the show came to an end on Sunday night. Yeah. I had to run out right before the lottery draw. Was it P? No. It was... I can hold the P.

Lamar's Jake's in again. Yeah, so reset the counter. Okay, we'll reset it. All right, great show, boys. That was fun. Yeah, so reset the counter. Okay, reset it. All right, great show boys. That was fun. Yeah, it was really fun. Thanks to all the boys for being supportive. It's good having you guys in my corner.

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