Pardon My Take - Jim Harbaugh, Grit Week 2024, Olympics + The Mt Rushmore Of Things Were Too Old For

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

Grit Week 2024 is here and we’re live from the RV to kick off the week. The buy new clothes every day plan has already hit a snag (00:00:00-00:17:07). We talk Olympics, the incredible 100 meter dash, Scottie Scheffler and more. NFL Top 100 makes no sense (00:17:07-00:32:48). Who’s back of the week including the White Sox 20 game losing streak and RFK’s best story (00:32:48-00:52:07). Coach Jim Harbaugh joins the show live from Chargers Training Camp to talk grit, football, being back in the NFL, the time he created a made up rivalry trophy, getting into the cold tub with his khakis on and tons more (00:52:07-01:51:03). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of things were too old for (01:51:03-02:29:49).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Football is so back to like going to training camps and just smelling football, hearing football. Hearing football I think is the best. It was so awesome being at Chargers training camp today. We have an awesome interview with Jim Harbaugh coming up. We also got to interview Ben Herbert, their strength and conditioning coach, which will release probably next week. But it is grit week. It feels good to be back around football. We've got some awesome interviews coming this week for the AWLs, some big time training camps we're going to, and we all are dressed ridiculous.

You are? Most of us. Most of us. We're all dressed pretty ridiculous right now. Everyone is. I realized the mistake we made was, so PFT was traveling all last week and we had the idea, he was like, I don't know what to do because I'm going to be traveling and I'm going to have no new clothes.

We came up with the very genius idea of like, hey, let's just buy new clothes every day while we're out on grit week. So I did this, I don't know if, Max also was in Europe, so he needed new clothes. I packed a single clothes. I packed a single backpack. I love it. Hank maybe cheated a little. He packed full clothes, but he's wearing the bought clothes by Huey today. It dawned on me though that this-

They have full suitcases as well. Yeah, that's true. They should have dirty clothes. I have a suitcase full of dirty clothes. I brought just a backpack. Max's clothes smell like France right now You don't want that looking at us right now though. It dawned on me that This only hurts me max and Hank It doesn't hurt PFT at all cuz he's just dressing like he always dresses if he has matched a thousand times better than he was Earlier today when he's wearing like a striped. Oh, oh, oh hey short

Oh Hank when I was wearing the part of my take branded polo shirt with the blue mountains. It's a great shirt. It was just, no the outfit was horrible. You can have a nice shirt and just like if it doesn't match, like you look like you got dressed in the dark. It was a, listen, this is green shorts with a green shirt. Yeah you do look, you look sick. I do, I'm the first to admit, there's usually two days a week where I look like I accidentally dressed like a six-year-old.

I'm going to like kindergarten basically. I look like Bryce Young walking into barstool. That's today. I get it. That was... It was my last set of clothes that I had available. Actually what's messed up is last night I set that out. I had two options of what to wear. I was like, this is my better outfit. So I'll set this out for tomorrow. Oh, you went with your winner. I went with my better outfit. Yeah. The other was a, a, a

limmy from motorhead t-shirt pink shorts. So this was the winner. Either way, if we all walked down into it and like walk down and saw each other first thing in the morning, everyone'd be like, what the fuck are you wearing? Max? What the fuck are you wearing? Hank? What the fuck are you wearing? Big cat. And everyone'd be like, Oh, PFT is dressed. I'm just wearing a John Cena shirt. I actually do own these shorts. I have these same shorts But they're well those are just normal shirt darker than all shorts the Where for the between me big cat and Hank verse pft is insane say max looks like I'm wearing

I'm wearing the Super Bowl pants who look like you're We're fine Generic football jersey I don't even know what this is. I actually like Max's outfit He looks like this looks like something that you would wear Oh, you know you look like it you look like a guy that runs a disco in Scooby-Doo Yeah It looks like a cop He looks like a cop from the 70s like a movie about a cop from the 70s and they cut to a scene where they're having

A barbecue. Yeah, he know and he but he also looks like a guy who just was in Amsterdam and he was like, oh, I'm back and I'm not doing this American dressing anymore. That's where you are. You look like a drug dealer in, you look like a guy in Amsterdam, they'd be like, hey, five bucks, she'll give you the best night of your life.

Look like Euro Max right now. You're standing on the street corner. Euro Max. So Huey's dressing us. This is day one. So the nice thing about, I knew that when I walked out here you guys were gonna say well PFT doesn't look any any different than he normally does it's better. Yeah, I look better maybe but The the thing that you don't notice here that I thought somebody would bring up is they got me a crop top shirt

But the crop top it looks like a normal t-shirt on me. And I thought that you guys would bring that up. Yeah. But fortunately, I guess just my normal ridiculous look covered up for the fact that I'm short. And we're going back to Chargers camp tomorrow for another interview dressed like this. Mm-hmm. Rep and Johnson.

And we have some other big interviews coming up that we're going to be dressed equally as ridiculous. I stand out the most in my outfit for sure, correct? Yeah, I mean Hank does have child pornography on his shirt. Dude, I'm wearing a football jersey, what are you talking about? But it's football, you're a football guy,

you're wearing football. I look like I'm going to a NASCAR event, well the top half of me does, the bottom half, I don't know what I am. PFT said I'm wearing a bell bottom. I just look like a couch. I can just say that I woke up late and had to run out to the RV and like,

didn't have time to change. Yeah, you just woke, you were just like oh, man. I'm a little groggy This is what I wear where my where my Snoopy This is what I wear to eat breakfast and I got changed for the day that is on brand for Hank Hank looks like he's still In bed right now. Hmm Do you want to hear the funny Hank story? I do more than anything you want to hear it? Yeah Yeah, no, this is a funny Hank's only the funny Hank story? I do more than anything. You want to hear it? Yeah. Yeah, whatever.

No, this is a funny Hank story. I want to hear the funny Hank story. And we'll talk about sports in a second. Can I tell you a funny Hank story? This is vintage. This is going to be vintage. Hank, Hank, Hank, I don't want you interrupting, trying to gaslight the audience.

I want to hear what actually happened. You stop me when I'm wrong. I'm on Hank's side for this, though. But you stop me when I'm wrong. But it's just funny coming from Hank, but I'm on Hank's side. Just to set the stage What so? The stage with like this is what we do all the time, okay?

All right, all right back to the time the timing on your schedules all the time, but the timing of it was very fun Let's tell the story and then the timing of it was very funny So we last week was vacation Hank just got back from the vacation and the week before Hank just got back from vacation Saturday Saturday he techs flew Saturday Saturday night. We're lying. I tell the story And the vacation and the week before Hank just got back from vacation on Thursday Saturday Saturday he takes flu Saturday Saturday night. We're lying out the story. Sorry you ain't text me Work trip I'm pulling up to a hair and I get a text from Hank and he goes I want to get ahead of something I'm really hating. I'm really I'm really drunk right now ahead of something I'm really I'm really I'm really drunk right now it's like 6 p.m. I just want to get ahead of this I'm really drunk right now I was like I don't care whatever

so then he shows up we're about to board he walks up again we just got off vacation first thing he says to me he goes not very yeah It was pretty much the first, not long after it was, it was like, Hey, what's up? How you feeling? And then he said this. He said, I was looking at Christmas week and how many days we can have. No, I was thinking about the show schedule. That was the first thing he pulled up his calendar. He's like, look at the Christmas week. week I was like we just got done with the vacation. What are you planning? Hank yellow trip? No, I mean I was sitting at my house on Saturday doing nothing just wondering about Christmas vacations looking at the calendar I'm just curious looking at the calendar and again like part of obviously I do love vacations I'm a huge vacations supporter. That is you know a vacation week

But I was thinking about the show and like, you know, obviously depending on when Christmas and New Year's is, how we do the shows differentiates because of... I understand. I was just looking at, I was throwing out ideas because there's a world where we could get two weeks. Yeah, it was like it's the perfect Christmas, New Year's, we get two weeks off.

That is sweet. I'll get Hank's back on this. When you're in school as a kid and you see that Christmas and New Year's lines up magically where you get mad, that's great. The difference is we're not in elementary school right now. And football is our job. Yeah. And there's a lot of football being played in those two weeks, including the entire college football playoffs. There's Christmas day games.

I had it all planned out and Big Cat won't even let me get, you know, get, get out my words. I was like, it goes through two Sundays, college football play-offs. I wasn't saying we're taking those weeks off. There's a world where we record Sunday. I'm not going to get in there. No, no, I'm on Hank's side here. I'm looking at it now.

We always have to record on Christmas Eve and Christmas, which sucks that we have to do that. This year, we don't have to do... There isn't going to be Christmas Eve games, right? There's gonna be Christmas day games. Yeah, but that's a Wednesday. Yeah. So we would record on. So we'll record on Thursday. Like that does rock. And I'm on, but again, it's just a funny of like, Hank was trying to get two weeks off. We're in the first week of August and he's just like, I've been looking at the Christmas schedule. Well, it's also very fitting. The, the start of grit week, the hardest working week of the and he's just like I've been looking at the Christmas schedule. Well it's also very fitting the start of grit week the hardest working week of the year

he comes in hot with planning a vacation six months from now. Or in LA. Well drunk. Yeah. Oh you're gonna do that? Go ahead be Franny Lydon for a second. This is our second grit week in LA that we've done. So we yeah I'm sure there'll be people like why didn't you go to the rust belt again although there was a lot of people who were mad that we did Buffalo in Detroit last year again We go where the interviews take us it's like if you build it they will come and we are going to three different training camps and have

Six unbelievable interviews coming. So that's what we're doing in and we also are gonna find ways. What's grittier than the Pacific Ocean? Nothing, maybe there's a lot of things but we're gonna try to surf tomorrow and I'm very worried about yeah That's where the Mariana trenches lowest pad level on earth Yeah, we asked Huey if he knows how to swim and he said I haven't drowned yet. Yeah shout out Huey. I've swam within seven to eight years ago within the last Within seven to eight years ago. Within the last seven or eight years. What the hell? In a pool, in a controlled environment, I'm good.

Yeah, he's done. This is the Pacific Ocean. So, who knows what's gonna happen. We said, Hughie do you know how to swim? And he goes, I think so. Which is not the ideal answer. I mean, I want to. We gotta get, we're gonna get you in floaties tomorrow.

Yes. In the ocean. Either way, people, there'll be haters for anything. I can just trust us that we have some awesome interviews And we've also been on an awesome interview kick. Oh, yeah forever. We were going through the takies I went through I was going through like episodes To think of stuff that happened last year, and I went through our last summer Episodes and we were we were just scratching and clawing for anything. Yes. Yes

No, I know. It's just it was funny when I, you know, you didn't think about it. But I was looking back and I was like, oh, wow. Like, if you compared last summer's guest to this summer's, it's nine days. Yeah. Yeah, it's way different.

It's crazy. Big guy, you do look funny, though. You look like a cop. Look ridiculous, yeah. Like showing up undercover in an ICP concert. No, I'm a cop at Alpine Valley, where there's just all the undercover cops go. Yeah.

I'm at a fish concert being like hey Yes, good balls. Yeah We should say by the way We need an AWS house for hard knocks. So Tuesday night is the premiere of hard knocks bears hard knocks. I'm very excited AWL Costa Mesa give us Costa Mesa. That's where we'll be in that approximate area. So where are they going to, who are they going to contact? Huey? I don't know about that. Who are they going to reach out to? It's got to be Huey.

It's got to be Huey. I'm impressed, Huey. Our usual criteria is if it's always better if it's a couple. Yep. We need a male, female. Male, female. Or male, male. Or female. Or female. Or female. Oh, Oh Hank. Yeah get freaky with it Hank. Oh baby. Okay. How many extra massage do we need Hank? I said male male first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah we'd like it to be a couple generally less creepy that way and preferably a dog. Yeah dog. So there it is

those are our criteria or we would we would make an exception if Rebecca Romaine Stamos. Excuse me, Rebecca Romaine O'Connell wanted us at her place. Yes, so and include a picture of your watch set up, because that will take out a few people who just don't follow directions. The email is PMTHardknocks at gmail.com. OK, so PMTHardknocks at gmail.com. Costa Mesa area. We want to come to your house and watch hard knocks on Tuesday night. It's

one of our favorite things we do every great week. It's awesome. Remember the time we went to a house in Milwaukee and the girl was a big fan and her boyfriend was like who are these dudes that are invited into our house mm-hmm that was wild yeah she was like I'm a huge fan and the guy was like didn't want anything to do with it I'll be upstairs yeah it was crazy it was crazy and for some reason she asked us to show up just bringing a bunch of pineapples. Yeah. It was really strange. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, guy, girl or Hank would like to fuck girl, girl. Uh, no fucking, no fucking guy. No. Yeah. Yeah.

Guy guys is first choice. You did the guy guy. Well, I wasn't trying to make your choices. Rank your choices. Rank your choices. You look like you're doing now. What the hell? Just say it. Are you counting holes? Go rank your choices. Guy Guy would be honestly hilarious. It would be very funny Girl Girl would also be hilarious. Yes. And then Guy Girl. Okay. Okay. Okay. And dog. We want a dog. What about Guy Girl Guy? No that's that's not that that never works. Yeah. Okay. Uh, what about, uh, all right. So yeah,

Tuesday night we're going to watch coast to Mesa area. We'll be down there. Uh, we'll bring the bus. It's going to be great. What else do we have? Grit week is, we're ready to go. It's upon us. Chargers training camp was awesome. We did. We'd be remiss if we didn't say how nice the facility was on the building. We interviewed the building today. Yeah, I think that building is worth five wins at least just on building alone. Yeah, chargers. Yeah, we got our next strength tested by coach Ben Herbert. Yeah. Yeah,

I got the strongest neck out of the three of us. Yeah, no great. Great. Next wrong. Big cat. Great neck. Great. Uh I think he thought we were all pussies. Yeah of course. Of course. Well we are. Yeah. Well yeah that's true as well. All right let's talk some sports. Should talk some sports. Should talk some Olympics. Let's talk Olympics. Where do we want to start? What? 100 meter dash. 100 meter dash. 100 100 yard. No 100 meter. 100 meter. 100 meter. Noah Lyles with painted fingernails. Could it be the year of painted fingernails? Wins by.05 of a second. We all watched it and we still don't really understand. We're like, this looks like the Jamaican guy won. The announcer said that as well. Completely ruined the moment by saying and Jamaican Jamaica the Jamaican takes it

But Noah Lyles backed it up because he was talking a lot of shit He was talking a lot this week if that Jamaican guy had been a French pole vaulter. He would have won Yes, that's how close it was. It was his head Crossed the line. I think was point zero zero zero five. Mm-hmm It was a period of time that doesn't exist yes ahead of the Jamaican guy and yeah I guess no allows big like anime guy he's big you geo guy yeah he's he's he's he called a shot too because he was there was a big deal he finished second in his first in the first like quarterfinals whatever

it was and he and he fit he was like 12th overall, ran real slow, over 10 seconds. And everyone was just bashing him, being like, this guy sucks now. He even said, he was like, yeah, it's the Olympics, everyone's gonna give me my best shot, I should probably run a little harder. And then he went and won the 100 meters

and USA's on top in gold medals, I think, and total medals. We just dominated. We're tied with China for gold. China. We're smoking them and everything else. Yeah, that's true. It's a big, big day for just declaring people to be on Mount Rushmore. Mm-hmm. And apparently before Noah Lyles went over in an interview, he said,

I'm envisioning myself returning home as a gold medalist, and that puts me on Mount Rushmore. Hell yes. Him and Joe Biden. A lot of people. A lot that puts me on Mount Rushmore. Hell yes. Him and Joe Biden. A lot of people, a lot of people going on Mount Rushmore these days. Nancy Pelosi is literally trying to end Mount Rushmore season. It's tough. We won't let her. Yeah. She probably shorted Mount Rushmore's and then talked about it. Now she's going to buy. She's going to buy. You did mention the French pole vaulter who, if everyone missed it,

he had, he basically got disqualified or whatever the bar came down because his dick was too big. Which kind of the best way to lose? Because everyone's like, oh, your dick was too big? I'd say- Now everyone knows your dick's too big? It's without a doubt the best way to lose. And he's from France, so if he was from another country where they circumcised, he probably

would have been fine. Yeah, that's true He I think it was actually his balls more than anything. I think it was his hog. It was whole package I think it was the dick. Yeah Djokovic is the goat one gold wasn't on TV couldn't watch it. No big deal on on clay Beaten doll beat beat the whole country of Spain. I was there. You were there? I was there. For the winning?

No, you said he'd beaten the doll. Oh yeah, he'd beaten the doll. We had also John Rahm with an all-time choke, and Scottie Scheffler is Captain America, so he won gold. John Rahm was plus five on the back nine, Scottie Scheffler was minus six on the back. He shot a 62 today John John minus 600 with eight holes if John Rahm had shot par on the back nine He would have won by a stroke and he ended up losing he kept him in the metal. Yeah. Yeah, Scottie Scheffler What a beast he also I think he won thirty eight thousand dollars. I think that was the purse for today. Really? Yes

And he won like a caddy won 3800 dollars sponsored by live No, no, I'm picks. No got the gold medal and they gave him like a Cube a gold cube. Yeah, is that everyone that's getting that or is that just golfer? That's a very first time I saw someone holding it It looked like something that you would a villain would steal and die hard and like bury underneath the Statue of Liberty It was like a piece of gold from like Fort Knox that he got to go home with. Good for Scotty. Where was the course today, Hank? Do you know? I think it was the same place that the Ryder Cup was at. Oh. Oh. So it is actually right next to Versailles then, which is the original Louisville. Mm-hmm. So. I might have just made that up.

Yeah, I think you did. Okay. But that's okay. Sky Scheffler is the man. He is the man. Captain America. Le Golf National. It's called Le Golf. Le Golf National. People were trying to make the Olympic gold as the fifth major. We, I mean, it's that one in Connecticut, right? They were giving Joe... Travelers? Travelers. Oh, the road to Dubai. Yeah, that's true. But Djokovic, they career grand slam. Yeah. So if it's the fifth major for tennis

But what about but they don't have the travelers in tennis true, but they probably do They might they might also team USA lost to Mickey Mouse in the mixed. I didn't even know they did mixed Relays pretty cool, but we lost to the Netherlands and Mickey Mouse. I don't know if you guys have heard this woman's voice. Nothing will prepare you for it, but here it is. You know exactly what to do indoors. How was that for you?

Oh, it was amazing. That's her real voice. It sounds like one of us doing a girl's voice. Yeah. It was amazing. It sounds like one of us doing a girl's voice. Yeah. She's amazing. She also looks exactly like Pete Holmes' wife in Crashing. Yes.

Lauren Lapkus. I saw her. Yeah, she does a lot. It's weird to hear, even weirder to look at. We should not be losing. I feel like for as long as I've been an adult person watching the Olympics We always dominate the four by 100 except for Jamaica that one time Yeah, but I feel like that's our thing that we should dominate right? It's sad to see yeah The US women's soccer team won. That was a great game. No, they beat Japan

Trinity Rodman Trinity Rodman scoring goals all over. Where are we in the tournament? I think semi-finals now, okay Our basketball teams and win. Our draw is insane. Yeah, pretty good. Like everyone good is on the other side of the bracket so that's a wrap. And MB dominated. Yeah he did. He had a good game. Yeah he did. I told you. He had a good game. He scored an easy bucket. It was a match up. You didn't tell us because you released a video that we had you were addressing all these things that we just didn't say. Well, you were going to know we weren't. I went I went back and listen. You guys just wanted me to get mad first, but you were going to make fun of them.

But I thought you were going to make fun of them and then kick it. I think if we're doing though, like, let's look at I was mad. Let's look at the team as a whole. I would say that Embiid is having a much better Olympics than Tatum. I didn't say that. They both have one did not play. Max, do you want to address- The country, where's your patriotism? Well, you're saying that because you know I'm right.

No, I'm saying- If you thought I was wrong, you would be fighting. No, all that matters isn't gold because we already won gold. We're playing for basically who can be the best on Team USA. It was the Ryder Cup course. It was?

In 2018. Okay, nice. Oh, 2018. Okay. Max, would you like to address the fact that the Phillies suck? They won today. Okay. And they lost six. I actually was thinking- You're only as good as your last game. I was thinking about it. Is there a chance that you, uh, like curse? You were, you took a week off, you were off on vacation and the Phillies didn't win a game for the entire time you were off. That's crazy. So

I know that sometimes you think that like this show is a curse to you because you just keep finishing second. What if in a weird twist of fate, if you ever left PMT, you actually would lose everything. I thought about that. Like be a loser like us. And also, and B didn't play. Yeah. There was a lot of bad things that were happening to Philly Sports while I was gone. And there were a couple moments where I was just like sitting thinking and getting angry. And I was like, I can't be angry right now. Like I can't, I can't let this bother me. You can't, you can't be angry while you're holding a baguette. Yeah. So many baguettes, so many baguettes, so many cheese, so much cheese. Uh, you forgot

one important team. Your Philadelphia water dogs have been eliminated from the playoffs. They fucked. I think, I think it's fire. Everybody. They they suck dude, they were down 11 to nothing on Saturday They suck. I it starts with us. They're turning me into Dan Snyder Yeah, but it actually I hate it does start with max because they are the Philadelphia Water Dogs We never were this bad when we were just the water Well before we got max we won a championship then we got max they came in second But yeah max you might be Matt like on this show they came in second. But yeah, Max, you might be like on this show, the series of heartbreak that you've had for Philadelphia sports, you might be completely like maxing out Philly's

ability. This is like as good as it gets. Right. So Philadelphia should be thanking me? Well, you're not winning anything still, but you can just never leave us. Okay. Is what we're basically saying. Also I'd like to, uh, to apologize to you guys if I could. When we went into this- You're not texting me after my big horrific

fall and seeing if I was okay? Would fall. Would fall. When I fell on my ass. Did you fall? Yeah, I felt really bad. I felt really bad. Are you okay? Thank you for asking. Are you all right? I am. Okay. Yeah. Did you break anything? I almost broke my wrist Well, am I tell you basically have a broken hand pretty much like LeBron? But yes, I know but I'd like to apologize because going into baseball season We were trying to figure out which team to bet against every single day. Oh, there's my who's back. Okay Yeah, my who's back. All right. Yeah, my who's back. It's we got it. We'll talk every day. I have some stats every day I think about it. Well, that, cause that team was actually mentioned,

but yes, my who's back. Do you guys want to get mad about a list? Yep. Okay. Tyree Kill was named number one NFL player. And Patrick Moeums is number four. Yes. I'm insane.

And Tyree Kill won't even race speed. That's true. He's a coward. Yeah, he is. The, I don't understand this list I mean I get I get it because they're trying to make people mad but no because voted on it I think the players voted on it. So this is just hater I think yeah, it's it's because there's a lot of teams that despise Patrick Mahomes because he beats them

You can't have a top one three Lamar and Christian McCaffrey. I think it's Christian McCaffrey then Lamar You can't have a top 100 list of NFL players and not have Patrick Mahomes number one. Correct. Right now. Mahomes should be number one. Tyreek should be anywhere between two and four. Fine, but Mahomes is number one. But the gap between one and two is significant.

Right. It makes no sense. Yeah, it's just people that have lost to Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, and it also opens up, like if I were a Dolphins fan, I actually wouldn't want to have Tyree kill be the number one player because it just opens up chiefs fans to be like, all we care about is rings. Yeah. And then they could just do that to everyone. Well, hypothetically, what would happen if the chiefs ever played against the Dolphins in the playoffs? What would the weather be? Uh? Pretty cold. It wouldn't go well for the Dolphins. OK.

It would not go well for the Dolphins. It would be helmet-breaking cold. Yes, it would not go well for the Dolphins. All right, what else in the sports world? Hall of Fame inductions were this weekend. Devin Hester, that was pretty cool. He said, I'm hopefully the first of many to get in. Yeah, and he said, I'm the best of all time.

And he is. He is the best, yeah. That's not even a question. Steve McMichael, obviously battling ALS, very sad, but great that he got the recognition. Yep. Julius Peppers, who else? Patrick Willis? Is it basically gonna be impossible

for another kick returner to get in? I think he was talking about Josh Cribbs and- Brian Mitchell? Yeah, maybe Dante Hall. Dante Hall, human choice. to get in. I think he was talking about like Josh Cribbs and uh. Brian Mitchell. Yeah. Maybe Dante Hall. Dante Hall, he enjoys it. I feel like he was, the career was too short for Dante Hall. Yeah, he was. But yeah, it was very fitting that Devin Hester went in on the weekend that like started the new era of kicks. Although the new kick is supposed to allow for more returns. I think we've been thinking too much, myself included,

about how teams are going to take advantage of it on the return. I think it's going to be a bigger advantage for the kicking team to do it than the returning team. I feel like a smart special teams coach is going to be able to pin them with a fucked up kick every kickoff. Yeah, a really high kick.

Wait, you can fair catch, though. I'm not sure. You probably can, yeah. You can fair catch basically anything. It is the second show in a row where we don't know these rules. That makes sense. You can fair catch anything, but I- There hasn't been more games. Yeah, true. We haven't, we haven't seen it enough.

Yeah. My prediction for this NFL season, I think people are going to really hate the kickoff because we hate new things until like we just get used to it and then we're like, oh, it's fine. It's basically the same. We're getting the same amount of returns. Yeah, exactly. It does. Technically, if you go to the NFL website, it says promotes more returns. Okay. Well, that's so we'll believe them. You're saying they'd lie. I think eventually it'll be better. I think overall it's going to be better, but because it's safer game, because it's new, people are going to hate it. Correct. We hate everything. Yeah, that's a fact.

Um, okay. Any other sports stories? I've got one thing I want to get ahead of. Yeah. I alluded this to Hank earlier. Over the course of the weekend, we were in Nashville, Pup Punk played at the Barstool Nashville bar and it was a great time. Had a blast before the show. I was getting my guitar tuned up. I was setting up the amp, all that stuff. And a lady came up to me on the side of the stage. She was probably, I'm going to guess 45, maybe 50 years old. She was very obviously there on a bachelorette party, which is the number one reason people go to Nashville.

And the beer games. And the beer games, of course. And she came up to me and she was saying something. I walked over to her. I was like, what's that? And she was like motioning over. She's like, I'm on a bachelorette party. It's a scavenger. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Got finished setting some stuff up and she was still there like, come here, come here. So I walked over to her and she was like, put your number in my phone. And I said, I can't do that. I was like, I'm not gonna give you my number. And then she was she was like I just needed for scavenger hunt. Please just give me your number

I was like, I don't know. I can't I can't check this off like you're gonna have to find somebody else to ask Then she's like just put in any number I don't care so I can just check it off and say that I did so I reached over and just hit in ten random numbers There were people that had cameras out at the time 10 random numbers There were people that had cameras out at the time Mmm, you should have played it might one one and it might look like I gave a 50 year old woman my number Want to just get ahead of this? That's not what happened. So in case that video comes out, I'm ahead of it. That's good That's what we call getting ahead of a story. That's smart. Yeah, this is the national bar still bar. Yes any other

Videos want to get ahead of? What? At the Nashville Barstool Bar? Alright, no, I think we're good. Huey? Anything? No. Okay, we're good. You should have put in 9-1-1. I should have put in 9-1-1. And then just hit dial. Yeah. Was she hot? I think, uh. Why'd you give her my number? Yeah. Your number? Well, Hank, I thought you'd be busy busy There was another crazy plane lady that went viral this weekend. I thought maybe you're reaching out to her You see you see the naked plane lady. Yeah, totally nude totally nude. What was this one? I I think maybe maybe back in her day. Okay. Yeah cannons I

Don't know respectfully. I did not look respectfully yeah respectfully Nancy Pelosi should have just done a press conference being like my cannons are on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah, then like okay Yeah, just just put them like underneath Abraham Lincoln Yeah, put these cannons on okay, let's do who's back the week then coach Jim Harbaugh Who's back the week's brought to you by our friends at Mountain Dew. I've been drinking it right now because you know what we all need to get more of? Off our ass with bold flavors and refreshing citrus kick. Mountain Dew will get you off your ass and have you feeling like you're on an

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Hank, your Who's Back of the Week. My Who's Back of the Week is the Chicago. No, I'm just kidding. You don't have one? Oh, no. You don't have one. He was planning his vacation earlier. He was planning his vacation. No, I was talking about League of Disgrace. Oh, okay. Our three on three basketball team got eliminated. He sucked. Disgraceful. So bad. Jimmer was hurt, right? I'm going to blame this on Jimmer being hurt. I think he played. No, Jimmer's hurt. He did not play against Lithuania. I don't know if

he played the last game. We were owned to then he didn't play. Then we lost again. I think we won one game. I don't even know how the fuck is this possible. Also, why don't we just send our, why isn't Jalen Brown in three and three? I think it's like a different type of training. I don't know. It's just great. No, it's basketball. Like Peyton Prichard. Like just send our next three guys. Wait, once we're over there and we got guys like Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid, they can't get minutes. Why don't we just put them over on the three on three? That's what I'm saying. Joel Embiid, it's a fast paced game. That's true. He's too fat to go all the way to the three point line and back. It's insane that we lost this early. We didn't even make it to the knockout stage. No disgrace absolute disgrace. I

Why isn't Gouki on the team? Good question. There's a lot of there's a lot of people I think they're gonna have to do some you know bring coach K and and you know save our country again. Yeah Yeah, we should take our best basketball playing football players. Mm-hmm The women's team does have WNBA players. So why the fuck don't we have NBA players in our three on three? Yeah that's not good. All right what's going on? What's going on? Max? I just thought it was funny. Huey like loves talking about WNBA. Oh yeah. No matter what. If who's backs coming up, Huey's talking about WNBA.

All right PFT who's your who's back? My who's talking about the WNBA fact force. Alright, PFT, who's your who's back? My who's back of the week is John Gruden. John Gruden was at Chief's practice today. He's also a beast on cameo. Really? What's he doing? Let's get a cameo. How much is he? We should actually try to do a full interview with him on cameo.

Yeah. Oh fuck, that would rule. Yes. Yeah, let's get John. Let's just do a full, full interview. We'll run it. Yeah. Full. All right. Okay. We're going to do that. Let's write like 15 questions. Can we just be like under $30 is the most expensive interview we've ever done. Let's let's one of the questions should just be, are we write his answers for him? Right. So what if his answer should just be the text of one of the questions should just be are we write his answers for him, right? So one of his answers should just be the text of one of the emails a question Yeah, thanks good question. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, he was he was at chiefs practice today

He was wearing a chief's uniform and he was advising chiefs coaches Whoa, so I think John Gruden might be secretly on the chiefs coaching staff nip in his toe I think he's dipping he He's dipping more than that. Wow. He's like mid shaft right now with the Chiefs. And he used to work with Andy in Green Bay, right? I believe so. So I feel like Andy Reid would be the guy.

If there's any coach right now in the NFL that does not give a fuck what the league office thinks about them, it's probably Andy Reid. Yeah. He's too successful. Yeah. Touchable. John Gruden would be fun to have back. I thought you were going to maybe do your who's back RFK Jr. Can

you explain the bear thing? Oh, the bear thing. Yeah. So this doesn't make any sense. It's kind of a fun story. And he got out ahead of it, just like I got ahead of the old woman story. But so from what I understand is RFK Jr., back in the day, he was driving behind his friend, they were going on a hunting trip. The car in front of him ran over a bear, a bear cub, like a young bear. And then RFK Junior pulled over, picked the bear up, put it in the back of his van.

It's not very Kennedy like of him. He actually- Yeah, he's going back to help something. Yeah, yeah, so stepping out a little bit on that. So he put the bear in the back of his van, because he was going to skin it and then take the meat later. Naturally. Well, because he had a bear license, as one does. So he then proceeds to go back to New York. He forgets he's got a steak dinner at Peter Luger's. So he's like, okay, I'll just duck in for the steak real quick. I'll leave the dead bear in the back of my van. No big deal. Go inside, eat the steak dinner. Then the dinner ran a little bit long.

Okay. So he goes back and he's like, oh crap, I got to get to the airport. I don't know what I'm going to do with this dead bear cub that I've got in the back of my van. So then he drives with his buddies that he was just drinking with, or they were drinking. He drives with them. Now it's getting more Kennedy-like. Yeah, yeah, so they get in the car and they have a great suggestion

that he says he played along with, which was to take the bear to Central Park and stage it and make it look like a bicycle ran into and killed the bear cub. Okay. It's a pretty common prank. And many, many bear cubs in Central Park. A lot of them, yeah.

So this is going to be a funny thing they were doing with the boys. This actually is like a guys being dudes moment. Yeah. Like somebody has a bad idea, all your friends are hammered, and then you think that it's a good idea for some reason. So then he drives the bear, the dead bear cub to Central Park, stages it to make it look like it got run over by a bicycle, which I guess would kill a bear. But at the time there were a bunch of like bike related fatalities in New York City. Okay. So

they were doing that as a joke about like all the bicyclists hitting people. They're like even they're they're hitting bears now. Oh, it was a comment on on site. It was satire. Yeah. Yeah. so they they put the bear there and then The next day on the news they wake up and they turn it on and it's like national news That a bear cub got run over by a bike and it's a crime scene and for the last I don't know What's the date on this? Can somebody look that up like when it happened? But ever since then it's been like a big mystery Why how did this bear cub die in Central Park? Turns out that RFK Jr. put it there.

And how do we find this story out today? So we found out today because RFK Jr. was doing a podcast with Roseanne Barr. And so he found out that the New Yorker was going to write a story about it. So he was getting ahead of the story by telling Roseanne the whimsical story about how he ran how he hid the bear carcass in Central Park. Oh my god. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. So like for the last 10 years New Yorkers have been wondering what happened. What happened with this bear turns out RFK jr. What if you find out that RFK jr. had a hand in Flacco the owl. It's a possibility. It could be a possibility. Yeah. Let's not let's not put

anything passing this close that case yet So get ahead of that one insane headline. Yeah, pretty well. I Think I don't care at all. Yeah, but it was it's still a cool story Yeah, like here like I I actually appreciate what RFK jr. Is doing in this in this political season where like everything has been very intense and He's just like coming out with stories left and right about being a weirdo. Yeah I mean there was the famous when when a reporter asked if there was any more sexual allegation

things coming out about him he just said we'll see. Yeah. Which is a hell of an answer. He's had he's been on a heater too like the brain worms thing. Wait do we think he we don't think he killed the bear. He claims that he didn't. That part feels... He says that there was a. Cause that part feels... He says that there was a car in front of him that... Sounds like Billy football, the way he's like, yeah, this dude killed a bear and I got it. They both kind of believe a lot of the same things, politically.

But like, this... If you hit a bear, and you kill it, and I'm assuming you're going to notice that it's going to hit your car and probably cause some damage, right? Do you just keep going or do you pull over and you're like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, I don't know. Okay. That's why that part doesn't really and I don't really I don't think you see a bear get hit and then

Pull over immediately being like ooh, I want this bear. I want this bear meat and I want to skin a bear cub I want to skin this bear cub. Yeah, that doesn't feel like a lot of meat And I want to skin it. It's a bear cub? I want to skin this bear cub, yeah. That doesn't feel like a lot of meat. That's also a valid point. And would you want like a bear cub's skin? In your house? Like if you're gonna... There's nothing cooler than having like the bear that's standing up looking like it's gonna kill you.

A little baby bear. But like a tiny little bear is kind of a fucked up thing. Yeah. That might be a bigger red flag than putting in the back of your van. Then you put it in the back of your van like it's a hostage for 15 hours and you're like, oh, I can't leave it in my van because it'll smell. Let's drive from Brooklyn to Central Park to drop it off. This story doesn't really make sense anymore.

It makes all the sense in the world to me. Yeah. Okay. My who's back, I got two of them. First is, we were alluding to it, the Chicago White Sox, who are on a 20-game losing streak. Now, PFT, you've mentioned it, but we did have the debate before the season, should we bet against the A's of the White Sox?

Yeah, it came down to those two teams. And we chose incorrectly, because we are betting against the A's every day, and I think we're down eight units, which isn't disastrous, but the White Sox have lost 20 games in a row. They have also have a streak of 14 losses in a row. They're 16, or sorry, 60 games under 500.

If you just erased their 14 game losing streak and their 20 game losing streak, they would still have the worst winning percentage in baseball this year. And we'd be rich. And we'd be rich. If you took their 20-game losing streak and 14-game losing streak and magically made them a 20-game winning streak and a 14-game winning streak, they would only go up one spot in the AL Central. It's bad. That's how bad they are. They are so, so bad. It's, I mean, here's another one. The last White Sox win was closer in time to the Celtics winning the NBA Finals than to right now.

That's bad. That's really bad. I feel bad for White Sox. Part of the reason why we didn't bet against the White Sox every day, or at least me, why I didn't really want to do that was because, new in Chicago, I'm trying to enjoy the city. A great way to make enemies here is by hating all their sports teams. But it turns out we should have done it because White Sox fans hate the White Sox more than anyone at this point. I know. Because Jerry Reinsdorf has completely made, like this, it's a joke.

The, here's another one. This is from Jay Kuda. Only two managers in baseball history have at least 200 games managed for the same team and a winning percentage under 333, which is insane winning percentage. Pedro Grafall and a guy named Dr. James Prothrow, who was a licensed dentist who managed the Phillies during World War II.

Love that. That guy had to manage the team because everyone was playing, was fighting the Nazis. Yeah. And then it's Pedro Grafall. That's insane. I'm not the step coach. I'm the coach that stepped up. Yeah.

It's one of my great regrets in life. Yeah. Not fading the white socks every single day this year. What would you, if you, at the start of this losing streak, if you had bet a hundred bucks on them and then you let it ride, what would that total be? I don't know if someone's going to have that. We're not math guys.

It's going to make us really bummed out. Yeah. 21 I think is the record. Yeah. So what are they at? 19 now? No, they're 20. They're at 20 now.

Yeah, they're at 20. Every time I see this app and I just think of how much more money I would have. They're so bad. It's like getting to a point too, where, uh, they're basically circling the, uh, the rotations where I think they played the twins. I think they just finished playing the twins or maybe they were playing. Yeah, they were playing twins this weekend or maybe it was during the week. But, uh, there was a game August 3rd where the last time they won a game was against

Bailey Ober on the twins. And then they were facing Bailey over again, like, Uh, there was a game August 3rd where the last time they won a game was against Bailey Ober on the twins and then they were facing Bailey Ober again, like you know, three weeks later. And 60 games out of so many games. So many games out. It's ridiculous. 27 wins, 27 wins and we're in August. It's insane.

Um, and then my other who's back is, I don't know if you guys saw this. Uh, it was, I'm setting myself up for some insults, but there was a account called Brooks gate that did a thread of all of the most retweeted and liked Or yeah retweeted and liked tweets of all time by NFL teams Did you guys see this? So? There was some good ones in there. The Bears, the Bears one was welcome to the Chicago Bears, Justin Fields. That hurt a little. The, the Bills

and the Bengals had, it was all about Jamar sending thoughts to Jamar. Cowboys one was Jerry Jones taking a knee, which we forgot that he did that. Oh no, it's so great Yeah And then the one that really hurt me Hank you'll get a laugh out of this the Packers one is actually I think the oldest One on this yeah, and it just says it's 42 to nothing Packers with 14 seconds left in quarter two That was a game we watched together where Aaron Rodgers house before they juiced Twitter numbers. Yeah. That's from 2014. I don't know what the commanders want. Oh, the commanders was when you guys broke the Steelers undefeated season. That's right. Yeah. That was a pretty good one.

So that was the worst 11 and 0s team of all time, those Steelers. Yeah. What about the Chargers P.F. Changs? Oh, I don't think the Chargers P.F. Changs was on there. Patriots has got to be a 28 to 3 31. The Patriots was something about Tom Brady. Oh, the Eagles one was a big time cuck one. Said times yours Andy after he won the Super Bowl in 2020. Oh no. That's brutal. The number one liked favorited tweet by the Eagles is celebrating someone else's Super Bowl. We respect Andy. I love Andy. I'm happy that he won the Super Bowl. You can't. You can't. Sorry. No respect. Yours, Patriots, was congratulations to the greatest of all time. Oh, that's another one. That was after the Bucks won the Super Bowl.

Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. That just pieced that together. Big time cock energy over there. I thought the Patriots one would be when they accidentally tweeted out a race to slug out of six Super Bowls. Yeah. I was just backing up. I was like, they don't know anything about respect. The saddest one. There's all these organizations and you're

just trying to be an asshole. That's big time ACC congratulating Katie Ledecky. Yeah. Stanford University. Yeah. The saddest one besides, obviously, the one I mentioned about the Packers just shitting on the Bears was the Dolphins. Can you guess what the Dolphins one was?

It has to do with their new quarterback or their new contract for their quarterback. Noctua. No. It says, Tuah has been taken to a local hospital for further evaluation. He is conscious and has movement in all his extremities. Okay. So that was probably also big prayers up. Yeah. But that was the most likely retreated was when I think it was after he got, I think it was the Bengals game when he had, what it got really concussed.

What would the, uh, the Panthers be? Oh, the Panthers. Let's see. It's fun. It's a fun little trip down memory lane. Oh yeah. The Jack Wars. Happy Jeans Friday, everyone. Jaguars had a good one about just like shitting on the Steelers. I'm looking for the Panthers. I'm looking for the Panthers. Someone give me a line. Oh, Panthers.

It was Lou Keekely retiring. Okay. Thank you. There's a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that. And then obviously Demar had a lot. Okay, Huey, your who's back. Yeah, my who's back is Ohio State fans back on their bullshit after all the allegations coming out today of Coach Moore. Findings? Findings? No, it's allegations. What were the findings?

He deleted a couple text messages in regard to Connor Stallions and his possible knowledge on the... 52 text messages That's not as much as 200. Mm-hmm. And so, you know, he's just doing his job is due diligence I don't think anything and I know this is gonna be any it's not gonna be a big deal pass today Yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna talk about this in a week from now. Yeah Yeah, thank God nobody's talking about it today. They also confirmed that Conor Stallions was on the Central Michigan sideline. That's good for them.

That program, the MAC, needs a lot of help. Yep. That program's going to be a powerhouse with this kid. It might have been just Michigan sharing one of their assistants. Yeah. With CMU. Yeah. Nothing inappropriate going on.

We interviewed Harbaugh a couple hours after this. We weren't going to ask him about this. I don't know. I'm sure there'll be after this. We weren't gonna ask him about this I don't know. I'm sure there'll be people like why don't you ask him? I We have a relationship with coach Harbaugh. I really didn't feel like being like hey putting on our big J hats going on with Sharon Moore. Yeah, listen, we're here to talk about his team right now Yeah, right also suck his dick a little bit about Michigan. Also, it was an awesome interview So I I am still as crazy as the Connor Stallion story is I still think that everyone was doing something similar and they were just mad that Michigan like this

This all comes from Ohio State being jealous that Michigan was beating them Yeah, and Ryan Day create like having that firm that was wasn't his brother created a firm something about his brother and worked up in New England Somewhere. Yeah, it's the best college football story of all time. It is something about his brother and worked up in New England somewhere. Yeah. It's the best college football story of all time. It is. And Connor Stallions is just a hilarious character. Yes, he's an American hero. He's like the American dream. Hank, what are your thoughts on this as a veteran of someone who's been accused of spying on teams and as a veteran of a fan of a team who's deleted a lot of text

messages? Yeah, I think you got to get every advantage you can. I think if you're not going to do it and other teams going to, and to P-F, I mean, to Big Cat's point, the only reason they got caught is just because people are mad they were doing it so well. Mm-hmm. They were winning. I mean, there's a chance if Ohio State beat Michigan in the last two years,

we don't even know Conor Stallion's name. That's true. Good point. Good point, Huey, if you acquitted yourself quite well. Okay, should we get to our interview? Let's do it. Yeah, before we get to our interview with Coach Harbaugh, he's brought to you by Coors Light, the best beer in the world. Grit Week is presented by Coors Light. College football is never short on intrigue, especially when they're iconic rivals, but you can add

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, recurring guest. It is our Grit Week, starter Grit Week presented by Coors Light. It is Coach Jim Harbaugh, national champion back in the NFL. Coach, you know how Grit Week works, so you've given us this answer before, but it's been a while. How would you define grit? I would define it as that gravel in the gut and even that you personally have that overcomes that situation when you doubt yourself, those pressure moments and the guys that have it, athletes who have it, men or women, whoever has it, then they

are able to give their best when their best is needed most. Yeah. I like that. Overcoming a little adversity from time to time. Yeah. Do you enjoy a little bit of adversity just so you can get a nice little W, a nice win over maybe your inner demons or whatever the case may be? Um, well, I mean, there's like the level of the W would be, yeah, I mean, you just love a W no matter what. I mean, you win. But yeah, there's something, there's like even better levels. Like,

if you have to overcome something, yeah, that makes that even, even better, right? Um, you know, for example, yeah, that come from behind, come from behind win is even, you know, nothing makes you feel better than that. Or that win where you did it in an opposing stadium, you know, and you, you feel like you know, your team walked in there and, uh, you know, the fans were against you, you know, your team walked in there and, you know, the fans were against you, you know, it was just you overcame that. Some tough environments that there's just no better feeling than coming out of a with a win in a place like that. Yeah. And then if you can throw the elements in, you know, there's some like, you know, real, real cold or real, real hot or, uh, you know, some, some rain coming down sideways and you feel like you

overcame the elements as well. You know? Yeah. To overcome an opponent, overcome them in their stadium and overcome them in their stadium with the elements. Then I would say, yeah, there's nothing that would make you feel more like a man than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All three, you know, beat them all. It's great to see you back in the NFL. I wanted to ask you though, like how hard was that decision

to go come back to the NFL leaving Michigan? You, you went there, you proved everything you, you set out to prove. Took a while, but it did. You did it beat Ohio state three years in a row national title. But was it was it tough? Because that is I assume your dream job, but to then be like, I got to leave this and come back to the NFL. Was that a tough decision? Yeah, it was. I mean, I mean, I love, love these guys. You know, I mean, this was, you know, all the, all the players there, all the guys are recruited, the coaches, just everybody. I mean, it's like, love you guys. And there's another thing where,

okay, here's a challenge. Here's somebody that likes what you do and how you do it and presenting you with this challenge and whether it's a blessing or a curse, I mean, that's, you know, kind of always what's been in me is like, yeah, let me see if I'm up to that. And so that was the overarching. There's only so many sayings left in the hourglass, you know? So yeah, I want to chat at that. I want to see if we can stand up to that.

So yeah, it's been hard, you know. Man, this is my two great loves that I have in my life is my family at home, you know, and my family at work. And there was that Michigan family. And also my dad lived right next door to me in Ann Arbor. And maybe the toughest thing of all has been that all has been that they haven't moved out here. And hopefully they will. Mom and dad, I hope. Please, I need you living next door to us here in Los Angeles. But I gotta say, this family I have here at work, I love these guys. But I gotta say, this family I have here at work, I love these guys. I love these guys.

And that's players, that's the coaching staff we put together. I mean, just tremendous all-star staff. I know it. I know that. And the entire organization, I mean, equipment room, the ownership, you know, the trainer, the doctors, the grounds crew, I mean everybody here, John Wiedemeyer, Christina, Marco, on and on and on. And I finally put my finger on it, which is why do I love these? Why do I love these? Everybody here's so much so fast. And it's, if I had to say one thing, it's just that everybody here treats their job like it's

the most important job in the entire organization. They are just double-check it, triple-check it. They want to be so good. I just love that everybody, players and to be so good. Um, that, you know, I just love that everybody players and all are doing everything, anything and everything in their power to, to try to make this team win and be successful. I love that. Love these guys. And now one thing you didn't mention, which I would assume was part of it is, uh, your brother has a super bowl. Did that, did that get in your head a little like I gotta go

get a Super Bowl? Yeah, I think people would automatically think that. I think it's been said and yeah, that's part of it, yeah. We know you, we know you all. It's gotta be a life part. I'm not denying that, yeah. But yeah, I got to say that, and maybe, maybe, but you know, I know everybody says you got to do one thing first. You got to make the first birdie before you can, you know, do anything else.

But yeah, it's so good here. This entire organization, the Spanos family, Joe, Joe Ortiz. My brother said I would love Joe. That's what he said. Oh, you're gonna love Joe. You're gonna love working with Joe. He undersold it. He undersold it. I, I, he's one of the best evaluators in the game. I don't think there's anybody better after going through this off season and draft with Joe Ortiz. And he's, he. And he is who he is every day. And he pulls the best out of people. It's just been spectacular.

He could, those draft meetings we had, I mean, there could be like a Ted talk of, just the leadership style that he has. He's a normal guy. He's a football guy. He's a football guy. He's a grit weak guy, you know? So my brother, he did say I love him. Maybe there's, to me it's like he's still undersold it.

You know what I mean? How much I'm gonna love Joe Hortiz. So, you know, that's been amazing. Just everything's amazing. If it goes good, it's gotta be because there's everything is in place and the players that we have and we can start talking about those guys too. But, uh, and if it goes bad, it'd be because I'm a bad manager. But, uh, yeah, we're, we're chipping away at it and getting

after it every day. Listen, I wanted you, I was very publicly wanting you to coach the bears. Uh, I was reading it back. The, the, I sent you, I made you a video, a hype video, trying to be like, Hey, maybe I can get some kind of old flame going in coach hardball's heart where he's like, I gotta go back to Chicago. Your response was the nicest. Like I don't care about this video ever. Could I read it to you? It was the nicest ever.

You wrote back, I sent you the video of you high old highlights, you and a bear's uniform, all this stuff. And you said, thanks. Cool. All glory to God sure do value our football and family relationships and good times cherish them thanks for caring and supporting there are enough doubters and haters in the world much respect and gratitude for you and yours those the nicest I don't care about this no I appreciate you both I mean big, big cat, PFT commentator.

I mean, there are, there's so many, there's so many young people, and I don't know everything you do and say, but what I do know is like people, there's like a whole young generation of people that like, oh, you're a football guy. You're a football guy. We know you. And I go, and I like, I asked a couple of like, oh, you're a football guy. You're a football guy. We know you.

And I go, and I asked a couple of like, you know, like, do you know me? I mean, what do you, well, we watch, you know, we watch big cat and PFD comedy. So I appreciate, I appreciate all the wonderful things you said about our family. Yeah, so I meant every word of that. And I know my brother, John feels the same way. All the wonderful things you said about our family. So I meant every word of that.

And I know my brother John feels the same way. And my dad Jack, Jack Harbaugh, who's doing great. I mean- He'll be out. He'll be out. Move to LA, Jack. Yeah, come on. Are you sending him like links to houses?

Are you looking at real estate and you're like, hey, look at this basement. This one's got a pool. Yeah, you know, it's a great question. I mean, it's just a question. What the what the what the you know, there's there's there's strategy. I'm always thinking of the of the of the way to do this. Now, when when I went from San Francisco to Michigan, one of the last things I said, dad,

you know, what do you think I should do here? You Dad, what do you think I should do here? What do you think I should do? And he thinks, I think you should go back to Michigan and coach Michigan. And I said, okay, well, if I do that, you're gonna come, right? You're gonna come to Ann Arbor and you're gonna help me coach.

And he said, the last thing he said is that he would. And I got him, you know, I got him saying that. And then it took a full 12 months before he actually did. You know, so I'm hopeful, I'm hopeful that, you know, that that that will find a way here in a year. And yeah, I'll do anything. I'll just buy a house next to next to my house. I got this new facility. Just get him a house in the facility. Just get a whole, you know, find an apartment, find a role for him here. Yeah. Like special, special advisor. It sounds like I,

it's a really cool relationship that you have with him and it's awesome. And my mom, it's my mom too. I mean, my mom's the greatest ever. And between my mom and my dad, yeah, just in the relationship they have with our kids, I mean, there was, there's so many times, well, I mean, living right next door to their grandparents, I mean, my kids would be down there and my dad would take kids to school. He would go to their games,

the conversations, driving my son Jack to his baseball games, me and my dad watching baseball games, like we were at the church of baseball in the summer time, watching games on Sunday. I mean, that was just priceless. I mean, I just got to the point where I'm taping those conversations.

That's my favorite part, is the ride to the game and the ride back. You know, just talking to Jack or to Addie or to Katie or to Johnny. I love those conversations. I really don't even care that much what happens during the game. I mean, the best time for me is the ride to

and the ride back. And my dad would be right there. Yeah. You know, so often it's just the three of us doing that. It's just, it's priceless. It's completely priceless. Well, unless you catch a foul ball at the game, that's probably better, right?

That's good too. Are you still wearing a glove? Oh yeah, absolutely. You gotta wear a glove when you go to MLB. Yeah, yeah, I always wear a glove. I mean, that's like, your chances improve dramatically if you have a glove at a baseball game.

There's no question about it. Success is when preparation meets opportunity, right? Yeah, I just gotta change. I mean, it's just, I've only gotten one foul ball. I've got 22 career foul balls, like legitimately in a game, a foul ball, a home run, but it happened like during the game, not batting practice before, don't count those. So, but, and I really don't probably,

I've only gotten one in the last 10 years. Oh, so people are saying you've fallen off. Yeah, yeah. It's, I've done it to myself really. I mean, I get, I've gone to a lot of games. Bob Melvin's a really good friend of mine, played on the same, you know, team. What's the American Legion team when we were in high school? He was a couple years older, but, and he was the star player and I wasn't. But, uh, anyway, he's been great to me and, uh, it just went to the angels game. I mean, they were great to me, you know, Padres, I guess know some people there. They get me, the tickets they

get me are too good. They're too good. They're in a spot where you just, I mean, your percentage of getting a foul ball is, I mean, it would have to like, it would like have to, yeah. And the nets now, yeah. The nets, it would have to hit off and then bounce back. So you got to ask for worse tickets. I got to get worse tickets. Yeah. I got to get like left field. You got to be out in the bleachers. I'm in a suite and the only chance I got is if the,

if the ball were to come through the suite, you know, just over, just over the screen. Are you bringing it up to the suite? Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. But I mean, I'm just not, I'm not putting myself in position to be in position.

Yeah, we got to get that. We got to get that fixed. 22 and then only one in the last 10 years, that's fallen off. I know, I got to get to some better, I got to get to some better spot. When you said that you tape your conversation, were you being literal?

Do you record your conversations that you have with your family? Yeah. Yeah. And I don't even, I don't even listen to them right afterwards, but I'm just keeping them, When you said that you tape your conversation, were you being literal? Do you record your conversations that you have with your family? Yeah. Yeah. I don't even listen to them right afterwards, but I'm just keeping them. I'm just keeping them. I'm going to start doing that. Yeah. I just want them for maybe just some time down the road. Those rides to the car, listen to them talk about the game or, you know, what they were doing or

the excitement of, you know, like that they had. It's the best. Yeah. And I always got to get my, now I got to call my dad and I got, you know, to be taping it and which is I can do because it comes through the comes through the car. Yeah. But yeah, that was just, that's just priceless. Those are, that's just priceless moments. And my mom too, she's, I mean, she's just, they just give this wisdom and stuff that if, yeah, if I don't write it down, I'm gonna forget it. But my mom's, my mom actually has given me the best advice

I've ever gotten as a player or a coach. And that is, you know, it's one play at a time, one game and that is yes one play at a time one game at a time One day at a time and she texts me that every before every single game like the morning of every game I mean, I need that text. Yeah, that's a reminder There's one play at a time one game at a time one day at a time Yeah, a football question here. Obviously, it's new you guys just got started not too long ago here in LA But is there anything that's changed anything big that's changed in the NFL? question here. Obviously it's new. You guys just got started not too long ago here in LA. But is there anything that's changed, anything big that's changed in the NFL

from the way that you did business back on the Niners compared to now? That's a great question. I've been asked it a few times by lots of people. From the time I played, from the time I coached at the Niners to now, I would say probably the biggest change is 2013-14. I didn't think the NFL could get any bigger than it already was. I didn't think it could be any more popular than it's doubled. It is, it is two X at least in popularity. And, you know, you can see in what the, what the, the salary cap is twice as much. And just the popularity of the game of football. I mean, it's, it's, it's awesome.

And right around that time too, just at the reception of football too, and the fun that everybody has and the popularity. I saw it firsthand. And back then, there was a, football had a little bit of a, I mean, it had a bit of a crisis back then, you know, with, you know, is it too dangerous? Is it too much of a sport that, you know, that a mother wouldn't want their son to play. And then I went into college ranks in 2015. And I saw just growing from there and everywhere I went around the country, it's like, well,

football, football is popular. It's never been that popular. It's still king, yeah. And a lot of the rule changes have been good. I mean, it's definitely a safer game. The horse collars out, the blows to the head. I mean, some of these rules of engagement are so good and so much better.

And player safety is the most important thing. But I just see it coming back and they're doing all the right things. And you know, Commissioner Goodell has done a fabulous job. Brian Rolap, I don't know if you know him, he's another great guy at the NFL. You know, very high up, I had a chance to coach his son Will at Michigan. And I mean, there's just fabulous people that have made this league and everybody's made it. And the players, there's no question they're bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, no question about that.

Us older players, guys who played a long time ago, we still maybe say, are they tougher? Are they tougher? I don't know. I have no, you know, it's all subjective. We probably aren't as tough as these guys are because they're, you know, they're just so much more harder to break, you know, because the way they train, you know, and Coach Herbert, and others, you know, just their passion, love and desire for the game is at an all-time high as well. I'll tell you a quick

story. Zion Johnson, who is our starting left guard, he had a root canal at two o'clock. I think he got done at like 2 to 2.30, you know, and was out to practice, practice, you know, didn't miss a rep. And then we do we did conditioning at the end, you know, we say, hey, if you're a lead condition, go on the sideline A. If you're in good condition, you know, go on sideline B. If you're in average condition, you know, go on sideline B. If you're in average condition, you know, go on sideline C. And he went to A and, you know, led the group, led the offensive, excuse me, led the offensive linemen. It's just like, okay, who would have done that? I mean, most normal human beings probably would have taken a week off. Most football players, you know, most all football players would have at least taken a couple days, you know, of their Ruka now.

And just about all would have at least taken that practice off, you know, an hour or so after. So, I mean, I can't even say that we were tougher back then. So what's really changed, and the equipment's changed, and the equipment is much better. But I think, you know, still the same as the work ethic and, you know, the passion to be good and, you know, get really good at what you do. Get good at football. Get good at your craft. So a couple of things have changed,

but I think more things are the same. Yeah, you left out one small detail about, the game has grown so much since like 2015, 2016. A little podcast called Part of My Take started in 2016. Came on the scene. We had the mission to grow the game. How much did that rise? Roger's got a check. We always say grow the game. That. Mission to grow the game. How much did that rise?

We always say grow the game. That's the big thing for us. So yeah, good. Well, take a deep bow. I believe that there's no doubt. I mean, no, we're on the next play. We're on the next play. You guys are, that's good. Yeah. We don't, we don't, but sometime, you know, you can't say it, but let me, let me to say it. There's no question about it. There's, you know, yeah, like I said, I mean, all of a sudden I got, you know, like, got kind of popular. Where, you know, people that are, you know, late teens or twenties and- And-

Football guy, yeah. No one knew what football was until part of my take started. That's exactly right. I can personally vouch for you, cause I asked like several people and players, my own players were like, starting to look at me like I was cool. You know, like I started calling myself cool Jim.

Like these guys think I'm cool Jim now. And I, in big part to, to you too. We appreciate that. I appreciate, I appreciate, I appreciate you. Yeah, I love that. So what about the new kickoff rule? Are you ready for it? Now, your former player, Sam Schwartstein,

was the one who came up with this idea with the XFL. Yeah, Sam. My man. Yeah. He created a creative mind. Sam actually sent me. I asked him, because we've known Sam for a really long time. And I think he actually helped us the first time we had you on

back in Michigan in 2017. So I asked him if he had any training camp, uh, stories. He said that you have three rules. I don't know if you still have these three rules for training camp. So you can tell me. He said the first rule was no cupcaken, which is talking with your girl on the phone during bed check. Uh, number two is never cut the chow line. And number three is never bare ass another man's stool. Those are three rules still in existence. Yeah, that's a rule. We had to make that a rule. He also said that you once told him that you...

It's amazing about that is that the guys were listening. Yeah. But that Sam remembers that. Oh, yeah. That's cool. He told us... Because sometimes you talk to him and you're like, are they even listening?

Yeah. Are they even getting any of this stuff? He told us a great story that when you first got to Stanford, you stripped Stanford of all the traditions and everything because like, I, you guys are losers and I have to figure out what makes you losers and then we'll build you back up. I don't ever, I don't, I, you know, I can't, sounds like you might've and you then built them back up. Just trying to find the common denominator of what, what is, what is wrong with

this? So we have to make, make it better. Yeah. I mean, mean, just the traditions that weren't helping us win is the ones I remember. How is that helping us to do that? And one of them, I mean, one of them was like, if they had like, you know, I always have this, I mean, there's no fighting, there's a no fighting punch, punching, you know, rule, you know, one, it's going to get us a 15 yard penalty

to ever, to ever punch another man. But like, I mean, let's think about, I mean, the intelligence of punching a guy who's wearing a helmet, or, you know, a face mask. I mean, you will do nothing to him other than break your own hand. So yeah, that was a rule. Then the ingenious Stanford guys, they decided that they were going to,

since they couldn't fight and throw punches on the field, that they would take it into the locker room and they would make a circle and they would make the two guys fight in the locker room. So yeah, I got wind of that and that tradition ceases to exist. And some of the other South Moor things that weren't helping us.

Yeah, we had, the Stanford Walk was another one that I took off, which was kind of like it right the last minute before like team warmups. We were walking kind of like a half a mile in full equipment. And yeah, let's not do that. Yeah, yeah. How about we do this? We make our locker room at the stadium better and we walk over in the sweatsuit, kept the walk. We walk them by the grove there and shaded nice, leisurely stroll instead of being in

full equipment for a 15 minute walk. I think that's a better idea. Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that, no. And the other one I think had changed too was, you know, we were playing UCLA, my first game ever at Stanford, and we're on the visitor sideline, you know, staring right into the sun.

It was the least, I'm looking at this going, that's about 20 degrees cooler on that other side where the press box is. And we're here in the sun for a good solid three quarters until the sun goes down, until we got any relief. So, well, we couldn't do that because the band had to be in the opposite side and that was the thing. We just moved the, here's what we do.

We just moved to the band, to the other corner. And put us, just get us in the shade. Well, the season ticket holders, they're gonna love having their own team on their sideline. Yeah, and they love winning football. Yeah, those were the traditions I remember. Some of the silly, there was some silly stuff, and then there was some just good practical stuff to, to try to help us win.

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$25 or more on sell blue coffee.com and save some dogs. Okay. Back to Jim Harbaugh. I also, I had never heard this story and I'd love to hear your telling of it, but you created a rivalry flag against when you were at San Diego with Dayton. Cause we love this. This is, UConn and UCF had this where Bob Diaco just created a trophy out of thin air and UCF never said, like, hey, we're playing for this trophy. You kind of did the same thing with San Diego and Dayton where you just created a flag and you're like, this is what we're playing for. Any other coach was like, what? What are you talking about?

Yeah, yeah. That happened. Yeah. What made you do that? What did the other coach say when you told them like, hey, we're actually playing for this? We hadn't beaten Dayton in 10 years. And we were like, man, this is the team we got to be.

If we want to win the championship, they're winning it every year. We better set our sights to get, and if we can get playing at their level, then good chance we'll be able to beat the other ones. So that was kind of the idea. And I was just like, hey, we don't have any like trophy games. There's no trophy. I mean, you come from the Big Ten where there's trophies. Every week's a trophy game. Stanford.

Yeah. I mean, you have the Axe. You know, it was just a cool thing. So we didn't have that and I said, by golly, we're going to make a trophy here for the USD Dayton game. So I just, I don't know where it came from. It was just one of those ideas. It came up with, let's make a flag, a big old flag that was half SD and half Dayton. So we made it and we had won the year before so I said hey we made we I just told our own guys hey we

made this trophy flag you guys won it. So that whole week of practice we had the flag. So cool Tim Drebno, who's our offensive coordinator at the time. You know, we took our bus to the San Diego airport and he had the great idea of, he was on the curb, you know, waving the flag. We were flying commercial, you know, at USD. Anyway, fast forward to the game, we're at Dayton now.

And yeah, we had the flag like we had put it right behind our bench you know secured it with some some tape and stuff and it's flapping back there and yeah so we won the game and run across and hey Mike you know good game and you're probably wondering what that flag is that they're, that our guys, now our guys are out like carrying it around and doing stuff with it. I said, I said we made this flag out of respect for the rivalry between USD and Dayton. Since we just won this one, we'll keep it. But next year if you guys win, then, you know, it'd

be, it'd be, uh, yours. I should have called you about this, but then you want it again. You never, you never gave up the flag when you were there. No, no, no. We, we, we, we want it. If you had lost that game though, that first rivalry game, the flag, would you have given him the flag? Oh, I didn't make it till after we won the first one. Then he made it and then really used that as like motivation for the next year. But then you go to Dayton and you've got the flag. He doesn't know

that you've got the flag. If you lose. He doesn't know I had the flag and I guess for our own purposes we were using it. We didn't want to motivate them to think that there was a flag. They didn't know it was a flag game. Yeah. They didn't know it was a secret flag game. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, so I would love to know where that flag is right now. Yeah. Maybe you do. If somebody has that, I would buy that. I would buy that flag. What I read was Dayton won it the year after you left, and they took it, and then it never came back. And then, yeah, I think the two coaches after that got it.

Does this mean anything? No, it didn't mean anything to you. I think it ended up in Coach's garage. Somebody said that it was like he was... We gotta find this. I think I read an article where Mike was using it to rake leaves onto his... Maybe... As a leaf collector. Somebody out there probably has this flag.

I would be interested in buying that flag. Maybe we make you a flag here. You got a rivalry against Kansas City. Kind of like what Dayton was doing. They've been on fire. We do a flag game. We do a Chargers Chiefs flag game. Maybe we'll do it in our studio.

We'll just flip it over and pack it forward. You guys have done cool stuff like that. Yeah, we can meet the flag So but PFT asked a good question if you had lost that second game, would you have given them the flag? They didn't even know existed. I would have yes, okay Yeah, we made this flag you won now it's your it's your flag, and we'll play for this. We'll play for this every year. Yeah, I love it. I would have, I would have done that.

I love it, I love it. Last time we sat down and talked to you. And there's no tougher thing than having to give. Yeah, it's the arrival. Yeah, that feeling of giving the brown jug, you know? Fortunately, I didn't have, well, as a player, I did. When I was playing, but coaching, we didn't have, well, as a player I did when I was playing, but coaching, we didn't have to, we didn't have to give that up.

And the, uh, yeah, the, the Paul Bunyan, uh, we had to give Michigan state that, uh, yeah, that time. Oh, that one, that was not bringing up. How long did it take you to, I mean, that was just not fully over that. I'm not fully, I'm not fully over that. Um, yeah, we got a punt blocked with 10 seconds left in the game. It's left a indelible bruise there. Yeah, that was, I mean,

one of the, I mean, top five worst thing has ever happened to me in my life. You know? It's good life. It was that. That's top five. We carry those scars with us, top five. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it led to some, you know, yeah, led to, uh, you know, limiting that, eliminating that, that pro that the college

punt, you know, that spread. Yeah, that's, yeah, it looks like every time they do it, like how are they going to block this? We're not going to do this spread punt ever again. We'll go back. We're going to back good old fashioned profashioned pro style punting from here on out. Yes. And our, yeah, punter's got to be at 14 yards. He can't be at 16 yards. You can tell this one bothers you. Yeah. I mean, you think of all the, yeah, I play that scenario out quite a bit. Yeah. But it helps you get better. You evolve. One thing you evolved on was you used to be anti-chicken. Yeah. But it helps you get better. You evolve. One thing you evolved on was you used to be anti-chicken.

Yeah, so that's a fact. You changed your tune on chickens. That's a fact. Because it was a nervous little bird and when I heard you talk about it, I was like, you know what? He's right. You are what you eat, right? So you gain the energy of the animal.

If it's a nervous bird, that's going to be bad for my fast twitch muscles. But then you change your tune on it. Change back, yeah. Because you admire, you change your tune on it change back. Yeah, because you admire you respect chickens now, right? Correct. So what flipped the switch for you? Getting chickens, raising chickens from chicks and, and the respect I have for chickens. I mean, I really the I'm almost put I mean, you probably got to put bees a little bit above yeah

above chickens yeah but I mean they're in the same ballpark huh why bees above chickens because they pollinate right what 80% of the world's food yeah anyway people are gonna look at this and go this guy's guys weird or something no no no but here's the whole, the entire thing was Brian Jennings, who I love dearly. He was our, he was our long snapper at the San Francisco 49ers. And he was one of those players I just had to talk to every day, got to be around and just, you know, get his, get his insights on life and things. He had this great breakfast that he would eat and it was just steak on toast and protein and getting his carbohydrates and it really tasted

good and I started doing it that way. And then one day I was eating a chicken something, chicken sandwich or something like that and he goes, yeah, you really shouldn't eat chicken. And then he was the one who explained to me that chickens were a nervous bird and it was part of their immune system and their nervous system was just, you know, you could probably make that case, you know, with the pecking and things. But, yeah, I kind of maintained that, chicken's a nervous bird, and kind of really bought into what Brian was saying. He had this whole thing documented how

when the United States went from meat eaters, meat consumption mainly, to a higher rate of chicken consumption that, you know, nervousness went up. You know, you have to get to Brian. You got to talk about correlation and causation. Just a little bit. Get to get with Brian maybe and maybe he could explain it. But I bought into it up until the point where it was the pandemic. It was Easter, and I went to Tractor Supply, got eight chicks right in the box, and we raised them. And the kids loved them

for about a month. And then after that, it was me exclusively taking care of them. And yeah, just taking care of them and yeah, just the production that they have. I mean, it is an egg every 26 hours, you know, and you know, they're low maintenance. I mean, they're not high maintenance. I mean, it's low maintenance and high production with the chicken. And there were some times in there, you know, where, you there where I actually felt like the chickens liked me and liked seeing me and I went to a lot of, you know, to make their life better and kept their pen, you know, like good. And yeah, I enjoyed working with them, with the chickens. And yeah. It was a huge relief for us because we got to eat chicken again.

Yeah. Because we stopped eating chicken when you told us not to eat chicken. Go back. I was wrong. I was wrong. I think I was dead wrong. I like that.

Yeah. You evolved. So what are you on now? What's the latest thing that you're fascinated by or something that you think you're ahead of the curve with and insight into life or nature? I just like living that strenuous life of like you know you just always trying to think and always trying to trying to have an idea or work or you know just feel like you know you just

you just got to go and you know love being on my feet love love doing stuff you know I mean I'm love thinking of something and then doing it. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. I'll let you know if something works or if it doesn't. But yeah, just I don't know, just just that feeling that you just gotta you can't slow down and, you know, in a moment's notice, you know, something, something could change. So just kind of keep going about it that way. Are we still watching Spongebob and respecting everything

Spongebob does? Yeah, not as much not as much because you know, my youngest guy. Yeah, my youngest guy is, you know, he's, he's more on the, he's evolved more to the YouTube and, you know, the different, different daredevil things that are on that. Are we worried that he's evolved more to the YouTube and, you know, the different, different daredevil things that are on that. Are we worried that he's screaming? What are we worried his work ethic is going to be a little off that he hasn't have SpongeBob

as a someone he can look up to? Because you told us when we I think it was maybe the second time you're on that SpongeBob like he's a he's a hero. He's a hero. There's no doubt about it. I mean, um, when you talk about attacking each day with an enthusiasm, unknown to mankind. Yeah, that's, that's, that's SpongeBob. Uh, and it's, it's a, it's a, it's unknown to mankind, you know, it's not of mankind.

It's right. You know, that's sponge. mankind. It's, you know, that's... It's sponge. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm, yeah, I think that enthusiasm comes from, you know, from God. It's like that Jesus juice, you know, and I just, I had that, you know, something you'd get at a good sermon, you know, where you feel it, really feel it, you know, and I feel it in a good sermon at church. Um, but also from football, I get that kind of, that kind of juice, you know, that kind of, that love of the game as well. Like training camp being back, like just the pads being on, is that something that like the first

day where you're like, man, this is, this is where I should be. This is, this is the feeling that I need. Yeah. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, I always get that feeling. As a player, I got it. And it's not as good as a coach, but it's the next best thing. But I get it as a coach. Yeah, I mean, and I don't know. Some people say it's not worth to find you

and you know, it shouldn't be. I understand that difference, you know, that case, but I actually like myself better, you know, when I'm, you know, like, when I played, you know, like you put on that armor, you put on that helmet, you put on that jersey, you know, you look in the mirror and go, Jim Harbaugh, football player, you know, armor, you put on that helmet, you put on that jersey, you look in the mirror and go, Jim Harbaugh, football player.

Today's the day. I mean, great things are gonna happen. Somebody says, have a nice day, and I say, well, that seems a little risky. I think I'm just gonna make it a great day. Take the try out of it. When I put on that uniform, it felt like putting on a Superman cape, if you will. And I still get some of that from coaching.

Put on my outfit and my hat and get my whistle and coaching football today. Yeah. You got to rise to that. Put on my outfit and my hat and, you know, get my whistle and. Coaching football today. Yeah. I mean, you got to you got to rise to that. You got to, you know, rise to that challenge. We had a debate when we were watching you in the national title game, seeing how jacked up you were on the sideline before the game. Yeah. We thought that if they if the NCAA allowed it,

you could have put on pads and probably played that whole game. Do you think you could could have gotten out there and been like, you know what, I'm just going to quarterback today. I'm ready to go. Now, now and even the even the feeling of like winning that game. I mean, it was it was so it was so good. But it's, it's not even it's, it's long past being for myself. It's like, I can see J.J. McCarthy or Blake Corm or any one of those players,

this is their opportunity to be a champion, to go undefeated, for them to know that. And for their mom and dad, for Jim and Megan McCarthy to know that their son is a champion. For each of those parents, uncles, grandparents, like that they get to feel that joy of their son or their grandson or their friend, whatever it is, and for themselves to know, like, you did that. Yeah. Pull it down

or pull it in, but you did that. And that's where all the joy, as well the joy comes from, is them experiencing that. Yeah, and that game was an ass kicking. That was a beautiful thing to watch. At what point in the game did you realize they're not stopping us? I mean, that's my goal.

My goal is that, you know, we get ahead, we stay ahead, you know, we get so far ahead that I can't screw it up. And I guess when Mikey Samherstel picked off that pass and returned it 50 yards, we're going to win this if we don't screw up this. If we don't give a kickoff return here, you know, and that kind of thing or we don't. So yeah, I guess you never really feel that until your team has taken a knee in victory,

you know. But I don't know, somewhere along the line I felt it and that's one of those feelings you know that's not going's that's one of those feelings, you know, that's it's not going to wash off in the shower. You know, that's that's that stays with you. It's that stays with it was crazy watching Michigan this year. It was just like the like the tackling the physicality, the running the football. It was just it felt like it was a perfect team built in your mold. Like even we were talking to Coach Herbert about the Penn State game, which I know you're watching on TV, but like, you know, running the football down

their throat and being like, you can't stop this. We're going to keep running it. Had to have felt like everything I've wanted in a football team. Yeah. I mean, this is the only part that I'm uncomfortable with is like that. That team was in my mold or something like that. I mean these guys were so much better than I was and so much more connected you know than just about any any team I'd ever been on. So unselfish you know I mean talk about adversity I mean you know the they overcame it at every point. I mean it got to the point where you know, they overcame it at every point. I mean, it got to the point where, you know,

it was white noise, you know, and then to the point where you couldn't even hear it, you know? And that all came from their parents and their families that had poured all that into them. And it came from them, you know, who they were and they just kept getting better at being them, you know, and they never got a big head. And it was tremendous and, you know, to the extent of like the other thing people say

is like, oh, you've won everywhere you've been or this and that kind of stuff. It's only because you have good players. I mean, there is no good coaches with bad players. Yeah, I mean, it's all about the players. And I learned that from from Dave Adolph when I was a young coach. The great David Adolph, when I put up a rush, Mount Rushmore of, you know, coaches, I mean, if I'm going to the very tip top, it's Jack Harbaugh, it's John Harbaugh, it's Dave Adolph, Bo Schembechler.

Those four are right at the very top. And he said that, I said, Dave, how do we make this team USD? How do we get better? He goes, he goes, you got to get better players. And he said, there's only two ways. There's only two ways to do that. I mean, you got to coach them better or you got to recruit better players, you know, pro football, you got to you got to coach them better.

Or, you know, we got to you got to, you know, you got to got to acquire players, through the through the draft, et cetera. It's just But yeah, there's there's no There's no you can't be a good coach without without great players Yeah, and I see left Tom Kreen off your Mount Rushmore of coaches Tom Kreen is is right there Yes, there's no question about it. Tom Kreen, Jack Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Dave Adolf, Bo Schembechler. And I said those four football coaches, coaches, now we're going to just straight coaches. Yeah, Tom Kreen is is standing

right there next to those four coaches that I met. He would look great on Mount Rushmore, Tom Crane. Yes. Yes. Got a good tan. And we'll put you on there too. Yeah, you can be on there. Because you can't be far away from your dad.

Or your brother. Well, you got to win a Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. That hurt a little. It's good. It motivates me. There's more you got to do. There's more you got to do.

Absolutely. You got them on Thanksgiving week this year, right? It's good, it motivates me. There's more you gotta do, there's more you gotta do. Absolutely. You got them on Thanksgiving week this week, this year, right? What's that? Thanksgiving week this year. I think Monday football before Thanksgiving. November 25th.

You know the date, exactly. Yes, absolutely know the date and there's a little back story why I know that date so well because that's going to be my parents' 63rd wedding anniversary. Oh wow, that was mean by the NFL. 63. No, I think it's great by the NFL. It's just, they're so good at stuff like that. The last time John and I played a regular season game was 2011. It was a Thursday night game.

It was on Thanksgiving and the date was November 25th. Wow. They know what they're doing. In 2011. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. It's all there. Yeah. Are mom and dad going to be at the game? Yeah, they'll be at the 2011. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. So, um, yeah. Yeah. Are mom and dad going to be at the game? Yeah, they'll be, they'll be at the,

have to be God willing. And the Creek don't rise. Yeah. Jack and Jackie. Harbaugh will be there. Yeah. I got a couple, uh, uh, factor fiction real quick rapid fire because you didn't, uh, speak to the media in Indianapolis for the combine, but you had so many players at the combine. So there was a story I read where they asked players for stories about you as a coach. Did you ever get a haircut during a recruiting visit

in the players' living room? Yes, Samaj Morgan's house. No, wait, no, it was Brady McGregor's house. His mom was a hairstylist and you just were like, hey, I need a, what happened there? Yeah, I got a haircut, I needed one. I needed one, I've been on the recruiting trail for, I'm sorry about that, yeah, that was Braden's mom.

And yeah, it was a great haircut. Yeah, they also was a story from Michael Barrett that- Braden also got me the the tattoo. Oh, yeah That's right. Do it but his guy did yeah that uh, you were on the recruiting trail and hungry And you went to Michael Barrett's house and you ate an entire pizza yourself I I might have been pretty hungry. I mean Yeah, okay and then the last one was uh, Yeah. Okay. And then the last one was, uh, Josh Wallace said that he came in one day and you were in the ice tub full khakis and polo. Yeah. That, uh, these are great stories.

I don't, I don't see the problem with it. No, you just finish your workout, get in the ice ice bath. Yeah. Yeah. and these are I mean these are they're they're almost like I mean they're athletic like athletic pants yeah are you are you getting away from the khakis or would the khakis be regular? Just the color I just wanted to change it up sometimes and not be you know what's gonna happen when the regular season they're the same pant as the khaki okay but I just but is this gonna be the color during the regular season I've gone darker lately yeah okay, it's the new me.

These are things we need to know before, because these are important things. I've gone darker the last three years. The last three years, I've gone to the blue. I mean, they're still khakis, but they're just the colors. It's the new me. It's the new me. That's your big change.

I don't want to get like, you don't want to get stale. Yeah, you've got to change your khaki color. Yeah, you don't want to be like, over- you don't want to be like burnt meat or overripe fruit. Yeah. Then people expect it and then you got to, you got to change it up because then they'll start game planning for the khakis. You got to change it up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind you wearing them in the cold tub either. You're going to wash them at the end of the day. Right. Like those pants, they've outlived their usefulness for that day.

Might as well just get them wet right then. Yeah. I mean, I don't see the problem. Yeah. I don't see the problem at all. There's no problem. They're pretty good at the, I mean. Yeah. I've loved how you're discussing players and the health concerns with the media because you've got a phrase that you go back to. They're working through something, which I think is a very, you can use that for anything.

So I'm just going to start saying that about myself. Yeah, we're all working through something, right? Because it's like a game of poker that you have to play sometimes where you don't wanna give up too much to the media. But if you say we're working through something, then they're working through something. It's just a matter of I'm not qualified.

I'm not qualified to say anything more than they're working through something. I mean, there's, I don't have a medical degree. I mean, I look at my office and there's a lot of stuff in it and some things I've accomplished, but I mean, there's no medical degree in there. I mean, I didn't even take biology or any of those in college either.

I mean, it's just, I don't think I'm even qualified to relay what the doctors say, I mean, or the trainers say. It's just a question of what you're qualified to do and I'm not qualified on that. Yeah, that's HIPAA. You can't discuss the matter. That's what I would say.

Yeah. It's against the law. Yeah, I mean I mean Is or isn't I mean we're gonna I mean definitely comply with all the I mean every it's pretty transparent when it comes to the to the games Yeah, but no, it's just a it's just a matter of of How is he feeling how's big cat feeling today? well, I'm not qualified to search his feelings. Yeah, I'm always looking through something. Yeah, the cats working through something.

That's that's really a report. When I look at it. That's that's all I'm really qualified to. Yeah, yeah. Alright, so this has been unbelievable. We love we love having you on. I had one last question. It's the Chevy.com question for grit week. Chevy Silverado, best truck out there. So my last question for you is you've told us, when we first interviewed you, all you cared about was I want to play football for as long as I can play football, then coach football, then die. Has there been any change in that or is it the same of- No, still on track. Still on track. Coach football, then die. Has there been any change in that or is it the same of now? Still on track. Still on track. Football than die. God willing.

Yeah, we're, uh, we're on track. That's it. It's just the love. That's, that's, I think like, cause you are for us, one of the ultimate football guys for that quote and for everything you do for the game of football, but it's football means that much to you. Love it. Love football. Um, and I thought it was really cool this week, Tony Jefferson, who's played for the Ravens, played for my brother John, and now he's playing here. And somebody asked him the same question, like, what's the difference in them? And a lot of people go to like, whatever they go to, you know, whatever their perception is. But I really like what Tony said. I mean, Tony said, you know, they both love football. And, you know, that's, that's, I think it's

really accurate and, and, and, and true. And yeah, that meant a lot. I think that's somebody who's seen both of us and I know my brother loves football. And yeah, it was a very nice compliment for him to say that. Yeah. And Coach, we got to ask you about the RV because we drove up here. We have an RV, it's Grit Week. We're going to be staying in the RV. Yeah. We don't have a great spot for it. I know that you had a good spot. I don't know if you're still in the RV there or you, you moved out.

Um, but we're looking for a spot for the RV. Yeah. You got to tell us where to bring it. Where to put your RV? Yeah. Yeah. About 150 yards. That's where you were?

The South is where you could go. Yeah. Yeah. I was in Huntington Beach. I was right across the street from the beach and the great ocean and Big Blue, you know, was right there. It was great. So I love RVing.

I wish I could do it more. That was a great four month window to be in the RV. It's a simple life. You know, that's the best life. Right now it's not in the cards for me. With a whole family, four kids at home and a full-time job. But yeah, someday I think about that. That would be.

Yeah, just traveling around in an RV. I just hopped on that opportunity. Yeah. And I was a big fan of the Rockford Files growing up. Jim Rockford living in the trailer at the beach in Malibu. I mean, that's the way I grew up. That was my favorite TV show. And you're just sitting there laying on your stomach in front of the TV, watching the cars

and the palm trees and that his trailer. Yeah, someday I want to live in California. Someday I want to live in California. And if I ever do, that I'm going to live in California and if I ever do that I'm gonna live in a trailer like Jim Rock that's like yeah cool memory yeah your old gym you know ah well coach Harbaugh best of luck thank you well you know we're the biggest fans and we appreciate you anytime you come on the show and go win some football games amen Amen. Yeah. Appreciate that. And right back at you. Yeah, love that. Right back at you.

You guys are the best. Just keep doing you. Keep doing you. It's working. And piece of advice, wanna get a little bit better at something, just work a little bit harder at it. And whatever you do, don't get a big head.

Yeah. That's a trap. That's a deep, dark, lonely trap. And we also I should just say, because I don't want you to think that we're scumbags, we might have offered. Greedy guys don't get big head. Yeah, no, they don't. We might have offered Coach Ben Herbert $10 million. Come be the Barstool sports trainer.

So I just want to let you know, we might try to poach. We're going to try to poach him. I don't have the $10 million, Pam, but we'll find a way because we want to let you know we might try to poach him. We're going to try to poach him. I don't have the $10 million to pay him, but we'll find a way because we want him to make us tough. Yeah, I have to counteract it somehow. I can't lose him. I don't think he will. I don't want to ever be forced.

I'd do it if I mean, if I absolutely had to, but I don't ever want to coach a football team without Ben Herbert being our strength coach. Yeah. I don't, I'll tell you, I think you're safe cause I think he liked us, but I don't think he really liked us. Cause we, we told them that a lot of our day is sitting on the couch

eating like, you know, chicken wings and hanging out. And I love Ben Herbert. Yeah. He's the best. I love he's the best. He's a man All right, we'll keep you keep him. We'll let you keep him. Yeah I'll put him on Mount Rushmore. I mean, he's really Yeah, that's it done Tom Kreen Ben Herbert John Harbaugh, John Harbaugh. There it is. So that's the new Mount Rushmore.

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wish you weren't too old for. Max is running away with it. Max, you're running away with Mount Rushmore season. I was. The first time you ever ran away with it. Yeah. I also just had my notes up on my phone and Hank definitely tried to look at them. Hank, I got a question for you because we just had to switch out cameras so we had to take a quick break and you said the stock market is crashing

I wish maybe we knew anything about Econ mmm, and we could actually know what's happening. Yeah, Hank. That's a good point. What's happening black Monday? But we don't we're economically illiterate because we've never been taught in the airport. That was actually the first thing I said, what'd you say? I said Black Monday's coming get ready. You understand we don't have the December We don't have the building blocks to understand this because you never taught us right? What is black Monday? It's when everyone loses all their money that they've saved up On a Monday is it always have to be on a Monday no just this Monday so you Tuesday in theory yeah okay be a Friday it could be yeah why is it why is it doing a black

Monday people are just panicking and selling stocks everyone's just panicking I have no idea why can't they just turn it off like they did when everyone was making money off GameStop can't they just turn the stock market off? They're going to stop selling shares. Of the stock market? Yeah. Just don't turn it on tomorrow. I want to buy hope that Tuesday's better. But now is a good buying opportunity. True. I'm going to invest in a share, one share of the stock market tomorrow. This is when we get rich, boys. Yeah. This is the greatest. Buy the dip. This is the greatest opportunity of our lifetimes Hank are you gonna ever explain to us econ go I will okay not

today okay but not tonight you kind of just did with with black Monday I'm no he didn't say all he said was black Monday he didn't say anything else he said that it's gonna be bad right but he just read that he told me earlier that Warren Buffett sold so that means other people are gonna sell you did Monday was what that this was gonna were hammered so I didn't know what you're saying You did say that I mean yeah, we're gonna have to buy the dip. Wait. Hey you called this He did he's been talking about it since I've seen him you called the recession he did on Saturday Yeah, you're a fucking genius when it comes to the economy. You're the new Warren Buffett. So teach us. Okay, things that you,

things you wish you weren't too old for. Max is running away with this. I'm in second, PFT is in third, Hank is in fourth. How are we feeling, Hank? I feel great. I feel relaxed. I was able to, you know, get in the right headspace over vacation I'm ready for a big second half of the year max also did say let's just put this out there There's not gonna be any more food drafts was like what Friday food draft hold on hold on I am gosh max also did say I'm trying to figure out my magic number. Oh, that's too early Yeah, this has this has potential be heartbreaking I Mean it would be this would be an all-time blown lead if you ended up in fourths because it doesn't matter if you're second I know and like all the Philly teams are kind of doing that this year, you know, it's impossible. It's impossible It's not gonna happen. Let's say WL's can let me be the first to congratulate max winning Mount Rushmore season

Congrats max. You're the one who said you're winning Mount Rushmore season. Congrats, Max. You're the one who said you figured out your matching number. I actually don't think it is possible. No, I don't either. So you have nothing to worry about. Hank would just have to go on a heater. Heater, yeah.

Yeah, so you're good. Hank, have you figured out where your tragic number is? No, I mean, you're close. I'm losing you by like a point. I'm only up like five points, and you're up two points on them. Who goes first? BFT. And then who goes second? Me. And then who goes second?

Me. And then who goes third? We're in the correct order right now. We're in the correct order. Let's go boys. We're good. We're good. Things you wish you weren't too old for. I like this. This is open-ended. All right. Things I wish I was not too old for. First pick, uh, going to three day long music festivals. Good one. And Lala was all over the timeline this weekend the chap show the chapelle rhone uh concert when she's spelling out h o t t was it h o t d o g s is that what max was saying yep um it looked

like the best time ever but it also looked like the last place on earth that i would want to go right now at my age. Yes. Max just got that. You got it? No, I'm trying to think. Say it. You get it? H-O-T-D-O-G-S. I love hot dogs, they're the best. Nice. I saw someone on TikTok saying that. Shout out that person. Shout out that person. Shout out that person. Okay, good pick because I agree with that. Yeah, I had that on my list. The one thing I do appreciate, I think we can still participate in when it comes to these three day long music festivals, is seeing old school awesome NBA jerseys and then just buying those and wearing those around.

Like when I see a Bryant Reeves jersey at Lala, I'm like, damn, that's sick. Yes. Do you think you're too old to go to one day? No, one day is a concert. I can do a one day. I can do a one day music festival. I'm going to do that at Riot Fest this year, I think. So I've got a concert. I can do one day. I can do a one-day music festival I'm gonna do that right fest this year

Yeah, so I gotta pick out either Friday or Saturday for that but three days in a row just feels like crazy What do you do on the third day? Yeah, it's part of your face off all I would I mean it's four days now Really? Yeah, I was just on Thursday. I would show up and just complain all day on the third day Okay, good pick my first pick sleepovers. Sleepovers with your friends. OK. Too old for it.

Would be cool, though. Those were the best when you were kids. Aren't we doing that this week? We're not sleeping in the same room. And it's also work. And also Hank's not anyone's friend. Yeah. But sleepovers were the best.

I wish it was socially acceptable to just every now and then be like, let's just watch some games, play some video games, have a sleepover. I had sober sleepovers with your boys because sometimes, you know, I guess maybe not you with the family and stuff, but I'll still have, I'll still have sleepovers with my boys sometimes. Yeah. Drunk. Yeah. But that's like you were too drunk to go home. Yeah. They're like staying over for like a night or whatever. Yeah. It's also like the little things like, you know, being a little too loud, then the dad

comes down and yells at you. Yeah. And like, you know, oh my God, what's going to happen? Sneaking out. Who's going to go to sleep first? Sneaking out for a second. Yeah. Sneaking upstairs to get some snacks.

Oh, yeah. Sleepovers. Pretty good. Max and Hank did a sleepover at the Super Bowl a couple years ago. That's true. Yeah. We also did a non sleepover Oh So you regular day?

No, but we we spent well Hank's life spent a night together, but today Yeah, that was kind of sleepover vibes. Yeah, like video games. Yeah, we tried to do a thing That was Hank was the worst puzzle puzzle doer I've ever seen that was sleepover Yeah, but we didn't yeah Cuz you don't really sleep at sleepovers either. Yeah, right. Okay, Hank. Uh, that was gonna be my one one That's a good pick. I will go with not paying bills You miss not paying bills. Yeah, don't you? Yeah, but you you're not too old for that You could do that. You do do do that

Intentionally, you don't pay your bills. You do do that. Not intentionally. You don't pay your bills sometimes. I do pay my bills. But sometimes you don't. No, I mean, there was a grace period when I moved where some stuff was like not getting sent to my condo and whatever, but... That's the only one though, like, I guess... That was your first week when you moved in. Half the lights in your apartment weren't on. You don't even think about it when you're a kid though, but yeah. Yeah, that'd be nice. Uh, Max. The guy who clinched Mount Rushmore.

Yeah. You only need to go. Meatballs. Battling through a bad hangover. Like drinking through a bad hangover. Yep. Hank does that all the time. What?

You don't do that? I'm saying like, waking up, you're not getting hungover. The sleepover that we just talked about, you woke up and just fought through it. Went to the Eagles game. Well, I mean that wasn't by choice. Like waking up- No battles by choice choice I'm thinking like when you're in college Friday night you get absolutely yeah what you're trying to say

is being able to drink with no hangovers yeah that would be the because you get old and then you have hangovers yeah that makes no sense that makes no sense battling through hangovers that's what you do that's what everyone does. What do you mean that you didn't have a choice when you were at the Super Bowl? I mean, I had to go to the Super Bowl. No, but like battling through with like the next day like partying. Okay, I guess like being hungover, yeah. No, actually I'll take it that you had to drink that day. Yeah.

That was the only way you were going to make it, yeah. Being hungover, yeah. I just used to like not get hangovers and that's basically what I'm saying. So what is the thing that you're going to make it. Yeah. Being hung. Yeah. Like I just used to like not get hang hangovers and that's basically what I'm saying. What is the thing that you miss? Yeah. Not being hungover? Yeah. Like drinking without getting hungover. Right. Okay. That's the answer. Okay. Whoa. We're just giving him that? Throw a flag Hank. Throw a flag. Your first answer was battling through hangovers. And then we just gave him an infinitely better one. I just didn't understand. Hank's right.

I mean, I'll just not take like. Battling through hangovers. No pick meatballs. No, well that's not happening. Battling through hangovers. That was what you picked. All right, fine. Fine.

I don't care. I think that somewhat makes sense. Yeah. I think it's starting to see the punishments like closer and closer. I mean, let's also say that I also get the most shit for all of my picks and always have to get my picks changed. Take a deeper. What I couldn't get bulls eye. I mean what pick you guys made me do bulls eye. What pick got changed? You guys made me do bulls eye. What pick got changed? Uh, no, not pick that got changed. Okay. You said you always made me do bulls eye. You're still mad about Fortnite season OG Fortnite. No, there was another one recently. No, what made you change a pick? No, there was, oh, dragons. People were pissed that I didn't get dragons. That's not a fucking animal. He got fucking Patrick Mahomes. That's

literally an animal and it was a terrible pick. I'm just saying. You're awfully upset for a guy that's in first place by a significant margin. Oh yeah. You clench your mouth and rush me. I also think that's a fine pick. People are going to... Yeah it is. Whatever. Okay.

Just think about what you're saying before you say it this time. Playing competitive sports. Okay. Okay, yeah. Yes. What do we do on Thursdays? Is that okay? What? That is not competitive.

If you have a, if you can have a beer in your hand, that's not competitive sports. What do we do on Friday at the office? That's not, you guys are just, this is just going to be the rest of Mount Rushmore. No, I think you're actually incorrect. I'm not asking simple questions. Right now, you can have a beer Olympics. Was that not a sport? No, that is not a sport. I'm talking about high school sports, college sports.

You wake up and- One of my picks was I'm sad that I'm too old for Little League. But that's not what you said. Okay. You guys are trying to tell me how to do my mountain rush more and I'm the fucking best at this You are so what is the what what is the playing competitive sports? Are you gonna keep playing on your softball team? You guys are like that is not competitive like wow the pugs that hurts memes you you're part of that team

I'm gonna you guys are just gonna make me quit my compete You you're part of that team. I'm gonna you guys are just gonna make me quit my Be real shame. I show I show up saying I show up to I like what you guys are doing here because I'm dominating this game way too much that you're just trying to muddy the water And then your points stayed at the exact same total for the rest of my rush whoever was gonna be in first impossible you idiot Same total for the rest of Mount Rushmore. Whoever was gonna be in first at this... Impossible, you... Listen....idiot. You idiot, that's impossible. What was the word you were about to say? You fucking idiot, but I was just like...

Whoever was in first at this juncture of Mount Rushmore season was going to get this type of heat. It just happens to you. All right? No, fuck you guys. I think the lights might be too bright for Max. Yeah. He clenched.

Yeah. It's just... You guys are just upset. You guys are upset. are upset like the Yankees. Yeah, okay Lot of choices here Let's go climbing random trees I Mean trees on my list too. Yeah, I when you're a kid you just climb whatever tree you could see Yeah, you see it with some branches low and you're gone. I can get up there. Now you'd probably get the police calling. Yep. That's a good one. That's a good one. Um,

playing with Nerf guns. I wish I wasn't too old for that. Playing with Nerf guns as a kid was the best. And now when you do it, it's just like, who cares? And they've gotten so much better over the years too. So much better. You have like automatic weapons. You've got laser sights on them incredible Yeah, playing with their guns was so much fun as a kid. Mm-hmm. You get the yeah, what's that look for Hank? You know, no, there's a look No, I have nothing to say for the rest of this Mount Rush what I will take more pick I will take my picks and I and I will have no comment on anyone only the facts come back Nope, no, and like maybe like parcel when we did the nerf we did a nerf

We did years ago. What we did do that nerf video. We did in the New York office was that part of it You're a captain. Yeah, that was fun. I wish I do we could do that all the time, but we don't That was also years ago. I didn't bring it up. I was just curious. I was curious if Max was going to bring it up. I think the name of this is things that you wish you weren't too old for. That was in the past, right?

Yeah, that was three years ago. Max, come back to us from Outrunce More. I'm done critiquing your picks. Yeah, now I'm ready. All right. So do you think that was a good pick? Sure. OK.

OK, so I'm up. I just imagine waking up as a member of the Pugs on Black Monday and finding out you're not playing competitive sports. Yeah, well, I mean, if Hugh is managing the team, they're not competitive. That's true. That's true.

You're a leader of that team. Talk. He hasn't been there. Like, no, yeah, no, no, no, neither of you talking about me. This is awesome. You went to a game and didn't play bicep hurt. Is that true? Yeah. I was worried about golf. Now I actually, your pick got stronger because a guy who doesn't play because he's worried about golf. Now I actually your pick got stronger. There's a guy who doesn't play because he's worried about golf. That's not competitive. Okay. PFT.

Also, it was the playoffs. I would have played. Hank competes in multiple competitive golf tournaments a year that he cares about. Yeah. All right. So I have two. Yeah. Okay. So my first one, I'm going to go trampolines. Mm. Trampolines rock. Dude, have you guys been on a trampoline recently? No. OK, I was on a trampoline two weeks ago with my kids. I was doing popcorn with them, where I was jumping

and they were just popping everywhere. Maybe eight minutes, completely gassed. Like, sweat, had to get off the trampoline. That shit just kills you. Yeah. I was watching it at the Olympics too. And every time the guy would jump up in the air, I'd be like, that guy's going to die. Yeah. They're so high up, but trampolines were so fun. There's trampolines in the Olympics. Yeah. There's trampolining. Yeah. What? Yeah. They go like 50 feet in the air. It's crazy. Damn. Yeah. It's nuts. They should do

trampoline in the Olympics, but it should be like a battle, like two people at the same time trying to bounce each other. And maybe with a hoop and a ball hoop. And then you can tackle the guy in midair. Yeah, I like that. But yeah, trampolines were so fun. You'd always go over your friend's house that had a trampoline and his parents obviously just kind of didn't care. And they were okay with everyone everyone getting hurt and then you just you go on it for like All you'd want to do is be like let's go to the trampoline and they'd be like I'm sick of the trampoline I broke my arm there two months ago. No, I want to do the fucking trampoline. They're awesome, but you can't do it as an adult My next one I'm gonna go power wheels Power wheels are so fun. Yes, you couldn't drive yet But goddamn if you weren't behind the wheel of what felt like a car at the time Yeah, power wheels were the absolute best agreed. Okay, I gotta pick these smart comments about that Max

I'm not back. Yeah, pretty good luck back in you know, the power wheels are No power wheels everyone knows power wheels power wheels No, I don't know that. There's one in the office. For my kids. Oh. It's a mini car. Those things?

Those little electric cars. No, that's something different, but I have a mini truck that my kids come on Saturdays and just whip around in them. They're awesome. I don't know. I never had one of those kids. Sounds sick. But I... He was them till he was like 14

That's hilarious Thanks so funny That was a good one, okay, yeah, there's just many like many cars many trucks, but you can just drive real cars well not when you're a But you can just drive real cars. Well, not when you're a little. Yeah, true. Oh. Oh, shit.

Now that you're old. Yeah, but like. This draft is the things that you wish you weren't too old for. Right, but he's saying you could drive a real car, which is. I could also probably still drive a power wheel. Yeah. That would be that. We've got to try it.

We have to test that out now. When you're right, you're right. Hank's right. That's why I'm a really good driver, because I was training up there all until I got my license. It's been almost a year since you last wrapped your car around a pole in the parking lot. The pole that Hank clearly intentionally mislabeled.

All right, easy one for me, building forts. I just love building forts. Now I'm in the fort building game on the other side where I build the forts, but I don't get to go in the forts. But building forts, just being inside of a fort fort you build a good fort and start of the day It's like I got this fort for the rest of the day pillow forts. So for take forks down by the creek. Yep. I mean The best building a fort and just being like this is my spot. I got it

Okay, I think it's been a lot of kids stuff, but I'll go a little bit older. I'll just go with college parties. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's a good one. College parties were the best. And it does... I think the last college party I was at was with you, Hank, and it was like 10 years ago, and it was very uncomfortable for us.

Yeah, I had a stretch. I mean, like, we did the Dixie Tour and I was 22. That didn't feel weird. You were fine. And then there was a couple years after that. Like, I think I was 24, and I mean like we did the Dixie Tour and I was 22 that didn't feel weird and you were fine There was a couple years after that like I think it was 24 and I was like, this is we were at Ohio State I was like 21 Your ponga flip cup and I was probably 29 and I was like I have to get out of this is not good Yeah, I need to get out of here. Yeah, college parties from 18 to, I mean, even give yourself 22. Yeah. Can't beat it. Yeah. You know, like the Beer Olympics this year, they were basically the same thing as a college party. That's just,

that's every single Saturday. Yeah. In college. Yeah. Yeah, like caring very deeply about a game of beer pong. Yeah. I miss getting into fights in beer pong games. Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. It's a good pick. Max? I don't know where this is going to go. This is also something that I didn't really get to do at my own school, but I did it at other schools. And that's watching games at a student section. Ooh. OK.

I know that you guys did that recently. Yeah, you can still do that. But you've got to get over the uncomfortableness. Yeah. That's what this whole, I mean, technically, you can do anything that we're doing today, but it's uncomfortable That's a good peg. Yeah. Yeah, I have a pic coming up that you cannot do but okay Okay that okay, that's interesting Okay

I have one that I really want to do but I think that you're gonna You're gonna give me shit. No go for it. You're in the lead. You're never gonna blow this lead We won't give you shit. I won't give you shit. I Don't know say it man, you're not as long as you're too old to do it Mm-hmm. I am too old to do it. Okay, fuck it. I was I was this is another thing That I was never able to do and I was just in for in France studying abroad. I'm too old to study abroad. I can never do it. It's coolest thing ever Yeah, yeah, that is I wish I did the whole time. I was over there

I was like I cannot believe that kids did this for a full semester and like fake went to school and then just went all through Europe what? Hank said same, but you'd have to go to college Hank goes to college for one semester So you guys are gonna give me shit for that. I don't know why Study abroad literally translates to look at that chick. Mm-hmm Yeah abroad literally translates to look at that chick mm-hmm yeah I will stay on brand considering you know I take a day off and it's like you killed someone but just having the whole summer off yeah yeah nothing better no you're doing that

this year last day of school no I here. I took less than a week off I was here on Thursday here on Friday playing on Saturday But yeah last day of school before you were like, I don't know what 13 14, maybe you started to have him do like some type of job in the summer. But like when you're you know elementary and and I Guess I guess just elementary school kid. The last day of school was like, I'm just gonna play with a ball and baseball for the next two months and go to the pool.

Winter college break too was great. Yeah, I feel like it was like a month. Yeah, it was like a month. Well. I did it for once. And then my friends and then. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And then.

You went to school for one semester, right? No, two. Oh, two, all right. Yeah, oh, I finished out strong. Yeah. Uh. But then when I was working- It'd be funny if Hank was still technically

on his winter college break. 10 years later. No, I think if you did both of my semesters, though I have like one semester's worth of credits. Uh. Finished out strong. Yeah. But when I was working at a young age in the workforce,

and my friends would be home, and they'd be off fucking off for a month straight, and I'd just be at work being like, when do you go back to school? How are you still doing this? It's Wednesday. Yeah. That was the best.

All right. I got two that I want to, should I do one or two? Max, you pick. I want the one that you said that you definitely can't do. Having a wet dream. A hand job from God. I those rocks. It was basically virtual reality and It was awesome, but you can't do it anymore I haven't had a wet dream since I was 12 years old 13 years old. I've had one. No, I haven't Oh Couldn't you Could you it? I don't know wasn't that just don't jerk off. I guess right I guess it has to Robbie Fox was also very young when he was like, yeah, okay, okay, that's I mean

Yeah, that's just you went to sleep and you fucked a hot chick and then yeah I mean, I think it was a little weird but who cares? I think you didn't come for like two weeks or a month or something. Maybe it just happened Yeah, be very funny like explain to your significant other like no, we can't do it. I'm trying to get myself Just bear with me for the next couple weeks I also like it was only like a little stretch for me and it rocked for that little stretch I had one exactly one wet dream my entire life really and it was incredible Yeah, and then I'm like, maybe I'll have another one

But then I psyched myself out now every time I'm dreaming I'm thinking about about to have sex with a hot chick I'm like wait you idiot. This is a dream that hot chick will never have sex with you. Then I wake up and then I try to go back to sleep to get back into the dream where I like think about that dream, put myself back and then it's fucked up. It would rock to be able to have a wet dream. Yeah. It would rock to be able to like, no to just being like, I'm going to put on, maybe put on a condom before I go to bed. No cleanup. But yeah, that's we're too old for that. Who you got? You ever had a wet dream?

No, no, I don't remember a single one. OK, so you might have had one. There's a possibility. OK. All right. PFT, your last thing is a dream where you're swimming. Yeah, I won't drown probably Uh, I was in those dreams a bunch of mine got picked in this last round. So this is gonna be tough for me Uh I miss uh

the possibility Of being taller. Mm. Like i'm not done growing. That's a good one. That's a good one. So like you especially. Yeah, thank you. When I was, until I was like 19 or 20, I was like maybe, maybe I'm not done yet. Because I stopped growing when I was in like ninth grade. I was like maybe next year is the growth spurt. I started eating a lot of food, just got fat for a little bit. Because I was trying to convince myself that it was a growth spurt. Yeah. That I'm hungry all the time. No, you're just, you're just getting fat. Yeah. But that was, yeah, I wish I to convince myself that it was a growth spurt. Yeah, but I'm hungry all the time No, you're just you're just getting fat. Yeah, but that was yeah I wish I could still have that feeling where it's like maybe this isn't it for me. Yeah, I'm tall PFT

But or taller than you but I was this height I was this height in seventh grade and my dad is like six to my uncle's like six for my brother six three and They told me that I was gonna be the tallest person in my family. Oh no. Never grew again. That's brutal. The fat guy equivalent to that is like outgrowing your baby fat. Like when you're a fat child, it's like, it's okay, it's just baby fat.

Yeah, I won't have tits. And then you do outgrow it, and then it all comes back. An older relative is like, look, this is what I looked like in middle school. And now I'm skinny. And you're like, oh, that's going to be me. And you think genetics is going to do all of it. Now you have to rely on those impacts. Or like we're doing, we're working out.

Yeah, we're working out. Me and Big Cat are getting in the best shape of our lives. Diet started today. Yep. What are we having for dinner? Pizza. A small amount of pizza. The one who said we should get, we should add some salads. Salad, yeah. For the record.

What got left off, the one I was thinking that I would have picked, but I feel like maybe a little too much pushback, pissing outdoors without it being a crime. No, golf course. Yeah, true. You pee anywhere. But it is, it was awesome when you were a kid and you were just like I pee anywhere and no one's gonna say shit. In college we had, we had two bathrooms that were right next to the outdoor, like right next to outside and we would just go outside and we were like I'm using the urinal. Yeah but even that would be a crime if someone saw it. Yeah yeah yeah. Like being it like, when I take my son to like T-ball and he's like I gotta pee I'm like alright there's a tree right there no one's gonna say shit if I pee behind that tree big

problem big problem I had I had getting hyped for Christmas morning I had that too yeah I thought about that one just gravity bongs the excitement no we're gonna we're bringing those back yeah we are bringing those back but the excitement of the magic of Christmas yeah and also your birthday too yeah birthdays birthday was like that was a big deal. And now it's just like, fuck, I'm getting older. What, 18 is probably the last? No, 21 is the last birthday that you're excited for.

25, you can rent a car. I think it's 21. 21, I think it's it. You can rent a beach house. Yeah. But dude, remember waking up being like, I'm 10 today? That fucking rock. Double hand.

Cupcakes. Yeah. School. Yeah, rocked, double hand. Cupcakes. Yeah. School. Yeah, your birthday party, pizza. Velcro sneakers. If you're an adult man wearing Velcro sneakers, people are like, something's wrong. And they are so much easier than tying your shoes.

Yep. I wish I wasn't too old for those. I had a. But then you actually get, it does come around. When you're like 90. That's when you get way old you can do it. Diapers and Velcro. They make a comeback. I had quitting a job that you don't care about. That is one of the best feelings in the world. When you have a job in your early 20s and

you just hate it, and walking away from that job, it is better than drugs. I walked out on a job on a lunch break. That's awesome Yeah, it was a it was it was the worst job. It was the one I had where I called People asking him for money for Wisconsin alum. So I'd call them during dinner I could have the worst a dish washing job to go to a free Mac Miller concert. Hell. Yes I had this one I would have gotten some pushback because I'm currently doing a little of this But I do wish I could just play video games all day Yeah, I had that like there was nothing better than getting a new video game being like there's my next 12 hours

Yeah, I'm just gonna beat this video game. That was the best having imaginary friends. Oh, yeah Slash like world like world building with like your toys more the wish that you could have that though. No imagination. I think it's not imagination Imagination you lose your imagination that sucks. Yeah, like you have like stuffed animals and like you have a whole world What was your world? Dependent depending on the day. What were your stuffed animals? I had a chip beanie, baby That was my good. That was my ride-or-die. Then it was just a random collection of other That was my that was my ride-or-die. Then it was just a random collection of other Stuffed animals that my dog used as like yeah toys you had to yeah, you had your dog's toys I had I had I had yeah

I had my ace like he'd be in the bed with me and then everything else was just kind of like whatever was in the house the one having energy Yeah Like that's working out though Yeah But like I'm talking about kid energy. Like

I'm pretty sure my kids are solar powered because they'll just be in the sun all day and they just won't be tired. It's like, how did this happen? Yeah. You're like, you're super excited to wake up and you're super upset to go to sleep. Right. Because when you go to sleep, that's, you might miss out on fun stuff. Yeah. Sleeping in was one I had as well. Like I just, I'm too old to sleep in mm-hmm It would be awesome to sleep in till like 11 yeah I mean I sleep in sometimes as well

That's I'm so jealous of that like are there Saturdays that's a but other Saturdays when you'll sleep till like 11 Oh, yeah, motherfucker. I would I would I would for the other day I would I would work is great. I'd kill a man Wait, yeah, you almost slept through the Sun. I Was in bed pretty much until the Sun God damn it see that's I'm down you Rattle through that was also I had happy meals Happy meals the joy of the happy meal and the tiny little shitty toy. Mm-hmm What about like school parties? Yeah. House party.

Oh. Oh, yeah. Like Valentine's Day, you had all that stuff. You had like the Christmas parties would always be like big activities. Yeah. Yeah. Field day.

Yeah, and I tried to do that. It was always like alcohol or something. Yeah. But just like a sober, fun party. Clean, old fashioned fun. Yeah. The holiday themed stuff. Yeah.

Dress up parties for the holidays. Yeah, that's a good one We're gonna on swing sets swing on swing sets. Awesome. You get the cops called on you Yeah, yeah, especially You're walking on say no you walk you walk You're with your kids going to park and you see a normal adult by himself swinging like what the fuck's going on Yeah for his own good I would call the cops on him probably um You can still swim in a pool, but be a kid swimming in a pool like there was nothing better

I would never just being in a pool all day like like going underwater you guys gone underwater recently It's not as fun. I did like it's just like your ears pop like I remember I was just fucking go underwater all day. I did Yeah, it was it was awesome I was at the pool and my buddy was at the pool and he's got like a Six year old son and so he was like, let's see how deep we can go to touch the bottom Yeah, and so I was the deep end and you just like push yourself down touch the bottom. It's exhilarating But then you don't you do it once and you're like, alright, I did it like being a kid you do it for hours Yeah, the kids stayed there. Yeah doing it. Just pool games in general.

Pool games in general. Definitely. I did, I had being able to go out with a $20 bill. Oh, that's good. I wanted to do that. That was another one I was thinking. Then you're going to be, but then the alternative is, okay, well now you have more money so you don't need to do that. Yeah. But like when you're in college and like literally all you need is a $20 bill and can like have the best night ever. It's an it's it I can't even fathom that. PFT and I have going out without smartphones. Yeah, it was excellent.

That was so awesome. It was good. I was out with a flip phone. Just being like no one was on their phone. I never I didn't have a smartphone until six months into working at Barsal. Really? You had a flip phone? Were you texting? Were you doing like T9? I had an NV1.

It was like the, it was a flip open keyboard. And then I had an iPod touch. I didn't have a smartphone until I was like 24. Is it Blackberry? Yeah. All right, anything else? Anything else we missed? Being a kid rocked. Yeah. All right. Anything else anything else we missed being a kid rocked Yeah, really was the best coloring

cost bad coloring not uh Being able to be completely oblivious to all politics. Yeah, I do a pretty I try really hard to be oblivious But you it seeps in but when you were a kid who the fuck cares. Mm-hmm. They're not having a frontal lobe Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah, well you frontal lobe yeah mm-hmm yeah well you're getting there yeah there are a couple things I thought of that were close to both of yours one of them laser tag the laser tags a good one I have a take I think laser tags most overrated thing I don't think I went to the right laser tags they're all bad no no not not ultra zone paint like every time I play laser tag

I wish I was playing paintball but paintball you have to work like I don't want to get It's the fun of paintball without getting hurt and laser laser tag. It's dark. You got like black lights You're sneaking through mazes and shit people was fun People was a lot and also go-karts. Oh go-karts. Yeah go-karts But I thought it was it was close to and they also do have like they do have like adult Go carts we did it. Yeah, we did it in Nashville a few years and for an ad too. Yeah, it was fun But that's different if it's not it's different. I used to man. I used to just want to stop at every go-kart place My dad would just not let me actually fuck

I feel like rock coaches are kind of like like you can't just go to an amusing park and just like, I guess you can. Yeah, having the thrill of being on a golf cart too. Like when you're just going on a golf cart when you're a kid was awesome. Water parks? Yeah. Water parks. Although water parks are still fun. They're still fun, not the same. Not the same. Batting cages, still fun, not the same. Yeah. Yeah. Batting cages, no. Batting cages. All right. Good show, boys. Uh, we have the random number generator

because we forgot to do the lottery balls, so do you want to win this? Yeah, of course. Okay. I don't want this. I'll go 56. I'll go 20. Hank did 20. I'll go 11. Okay. I also have to wait. I'll go 8.

Huey? 42. I'll go 8. Huey? 42 for Huey. Jonah? 47. 3 for memes, Shane? 21. All right, Shane, you watching?

11. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it says 11. Yeah, Max gets 11. Congrats, Max you get 11? Yeah, Max gets 11. Congrats, Max. Congrats, Max. That's awesome. Huge. Yeah, Max. Max finally got it. Shane, you're looking at it. Does it not say 11? Wait, you actually

get 11? Yeah, I mean it's the... It doesn't count as the lottery ball. Good job, Max! Yeah, you've gotten the Freedom Number Generator. That's so sick. 100%. It was, it was actually 11. Yeah. Good job, dude. Was there a camera on job? Yeah. Beams eyes. Good job. Max Max. That's so show the fucking thing. That's so sick. Max. That's so sick, dude. I still think

you're fucking with me. I mean well because it's like the lamest thing to win is I mean I don't care you can't you can't ask the question anymore I can you've ever gotten the lottery ball machine week I got the number have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine I got the number answer the question have you ever got the lottery ball number no you've never gotten the lottery ball machine fine I'm it's better that I'm taking... This is a win! No. There's... The best part is...

Alright, fine. There's always gonna be like a shred of doubt in Max's mind that it was actually true. It wasn't 11. It's okay. But it's not... It was not 11. How did you do that? I just kept on hitting it until it became 11.

Yeah. I got my guy back here. Wait, was it 11? Yeah, it was I got my guy. I got my guy back here Wait, was it 11? Yeah, it was 11 First I haven't chain look 11. I know that but Yeah, I love easy that was number of that is the number 11 or ask our econ guys get this So it's firmly in there 11 bang Way to go max So it's firmly in there. Eleven. Bang. Way to go, Max.

I'm happy. That's a win. I can tell how happy you are. Yeah. That's a win. Alright. See you everyone on Wednesday. Love you guys. I don't know what I'm to say, I'll say it anyway Today is a Monday to find you Shawty ain't awake, I'll be coming for your love, okay? Shawty ain't awake, I'll be coming for your love, okay? So yeah, you ain't gonna love me

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