Pardon My Take - Joe Buck, Mark Sanchez, Super Bowl Story Lines And A Brand New Segment Pardon Your Take

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

It’s the Birthday show and the official hand off of Big Cat and PFT’s birthday and the present is no Ben Johnson in Washington. We clean up from Sunday and wonder if the Ravens loss was worse than the Lions Loss(00:00:00-00:25:20). We do Super Bowl story lines (00:25:20-00:39:53). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Panthers new HC and his weird book (00:25:20-00:55:15). Joe Buck joins the show to catch up on his season, favorite moments and how much he means to our show (00:55:15-01:34:11). Mark Sanchez joins the show to talk about the Super Bowl his career in the NFL, butt fumble, Rex Ryan and eating hot dogs (01:34:11-02:20:59). We finish with a new segment Pardon Your Take where we take listener theories and conspiracies (02:20:59-02:35:24).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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his Jets career, what he expects in the big game in 10 days from now. We also are going to talk Super Bowl storylines, a little clean up from Sunday, and we have a new segment for the end of the show, part in your take. So listener submitted theories, weird ideas, should be great, awesome show for everyone

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to part of my take today is Wednesday, January 31st. Happy birthday, PFT. Thanks, big cat. Happy birthday to you too, because it's actually today, January 30th when we're recording it. Yeah, so I was thinking about that as a 39 year old. I thought, and you're only 38?

Yeah, you're older. Oh, OK. So I am older than you right now. OK, boomer. I am older than you right now. I wanted to give you some wisdom. Some advice. OK, so here's my advice to you as the oldest one

on this podcast right this second. Tomorrow you will join me in the 39 Club. My advice is don't ever get your hopes up for a head coach. Because if it doesn't happen, then you'll be depressed on your birthday. It's really good advice. And I would like to accept that. I wish you had turned 39 one day earlier. So you could have given me that advice yesterday. It was the worst birthday present of all time. I feel so bad for you dude when I saw that. I was just like what the fuck. Do I want Ben Johnson though? Maybe he did us a favor because he didn't even think to reach out

to the commanders to say no thank you to the interview until we were in the plane on the way. You know what? I'm starting to think we actually told him no. Here's the thing Ben Johnson not good at fourth downs as of late. Apparently that was that was Dan Campbell's call. I read Dan Campbell's call. No, I'm saying the actual play call. The play calls, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As of late, he was actually really good this season. He told Josh Reynolds, drop that pass. And he shouldn't have done that. I was bummed out for you, legitimately bummed out for you because Ben Johnson does feel like- Shut the fuck up, Hank. I was. No, you weren't.

What if they get Bill Belichick now? Yeah, you might have played yourself on that one, Hank. I have no issue with Belichick. I would rather live in a world where Bill Belichick is coaching than not coaching. Okay that's fair. That's actually fair takes but Ben Johnson felt like it was a sure thing to the commanders. Ben Johnson now PFT this is what you have. I sure you're going through this internal struggle. There's only 32 of these jobs. They are coveted. You get paid a lot of money. You get a shot to run a team, run an organization.

Very few guys turned down jobs, not one year, but two years now. This has been Ben Johnson being like, I'm good with the Lions. I understand it in the fact that they're building something with the lions and he probably likes his life but is there a part of you that's like he looked at the commanders was like this is a mess I don't want part of this you might be a Dan Campbell merchant I don't I don't think that's the case because the mess is gone. We don't have the mess in fact I would still say that we have like okay. Yeah, the roster is not great right now as it stands But if you look at the job, it's actually pretty good. You've got

Josh Harris, good owner, he'll spend money, we're going to get a new status works perfectly, we're getting new stuff. The process of the process work perfectly the results of the process correct have not worked. He used a fucking draft picked a draft to do to scared of the NBA finals MVP. Right. And we are we're processed. We're process process results. So judge results, we're a process. We're process pie. We're processed. Not a result. We don't judge results. We're a process.

The process or the process worked, Max, am I right? They got the number one picks. It's not over. It's still processing. So we're still processing. Okay, so. As long as Joellen Bied is breathing air on this earth, the process is still.

Well, Max ran him out of town last year. Remember that? That's true. So I think about the Washington job as still being a good job because you've got a new owner new stadium coming Possible new team name. You have the most salary cap room in the NFL and you have the number two overall pick It's pretty good in terms of the long-term aspect for the job. I did here's here's what really kills me

We've talked about my dream bets on this podcast I've made like three dream bets and they're all very specific dream bats and they always happen. So the most recent one I think was Jamar Chase under catches under yards receiving in a week that hit. Last night I swear to God I dreamt that Ben Johnson was going back to Detroit that he was not going to be the commander's head coach. I dreamed that and then I dreamed we interviewed Sloak and we hired McDonald from Baltimore. That's what my dream told me. And then I wake up and I find out

that my dream is happening. It's all happening. It's all happening to me and it's not good. It's not a good feeling I have. I get the feeling that Dan Campbell had a little talk with him. That Dan pulled him aside probably cried probably told him that Remember when I told the team it's gonna be twice as hard to get back here if you leave

It's gonna be ten times as hard. I think it was just a please stay I tell you what man. We bled together man. I don't know who you're doing right now. I'm trying to think we bled together This is us. We're in a room and we're pleasing together. I want you come back and finish the job with me man. Can you do that? Give him more give more who is that listen? We went to blood sweat and tears man, and no one said we can do it They all thought I was crazy taking this job. They said Detroit. Why'd they never won anything? It's about to do it. It's kind you're kind of of like constipated. Hulk Hogan, if he like smoked cigarettes and had to get the voice thing. I just think that we're building right here in Detroit.

Is it dying Hulk Hogan? We're in Detroit, Michigan. It's like Metallica said, darkness. George Bush? Closer. In prison in me. All that I see is absolute sorrow, man. Alex Hogan.

That's when I see if you're gone. Oh, there's definitely some Alex Jones, good call. I got all the documents right here, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got documents that says that you've got two more years on your contract, man. It's like Alex Jones and Hulk Hogan trying to do a Dan Campbell impression.

One of them's dying. I think Dan had a talk with him, got real emotional, cried, and just pumped him up. You know who I'm very happy for? It's probably hard to say no to that. I'm happy for our friend Jared Goff. Same. Very happy for our friend Jared Goff. Like, Same. Very happy for our friend Jared Goff.

Like I can't, I'm mad that I don't have Ben Johnson. I've always wanted Johnson to play with and we're not going to get it next year. Yep. And at least he's going to be in Detroit. It would have been tough if you had taken a different job. Yes. But I agree with that. But if he's not going to be the coach of the commanders, I do want him to stay in Detroit

and I'd like to see them be successful there. So. Yes. It's tough. I really, I really wanted them. Yeah, I feel bad for you. I'm not going to get them. So what do you make of the report that he's staying because he wants to win a Super Bowl? That's fake news. That's fake news. That was a bad clip. Interesting tweet. Yeah, it was interesting because it implies that he's not going to win one in Washington. It's hard to win a super

Boat J. It's it's twice as hard. So by his math, it's twice as hard to win in Detroit still making it easier Than in DC. Yeah, okay, so I Would have liked him glad he's in Detroit. We're on to Vrabel. We're on to Belichick. We're on to McDonald We're on to Sloak. I can talk myself into any one of the guys what I don't want It's not one of those four and here here's where I might get myself in trouble If it's Dan Quinn, I'm gonna be Acquired hat. I'm gonna have to podcast in the backwards hat every show I'm gonna be the NFL season a sad sad boy if that happens. Yeah, I'm gonna be the saddest 39 year old bully in the world

That would be so that'd be the worst birthday present ever and I like Dan Quinn. Good guy great coordinator Yeah, I don't think I want to be a head coach coach especially if we're gonna get an up-and-coming quarterback probably in the yes We're not 40 by the way as some people have reported Henry Yeah, Hank's another people online have said we're 40. We're not 40 next year We'll have to do something big for 40. We've had to community You know it's Hank twice in real life about telling people that we're 40. Yeah, well, no, we're on the plane I was like you guys are turning 40? Yeah, no, that was fucked up.

Because now I'm staring at 40. I knew it was close. Now I'm staring at 40. So, yeah. It's a bunch of 30-year-old guys. Listen, this is our last year to have fun. Yeah. Okay, once it's 40, it's all business.

Yeah. It's all business. Then we're getting real jobs. Let's do some cleanup from Sunday. I got a couple things I wanted to throw out there before we get to Super Bowl storylines. First, I would like to correct myself. At the end of the show, we were talking about Jimmy G and Brock Purdy.

I was like, oh, was Jimmy Tree, is he that much worse than Brock Purdy? That was wrong. Brock Purdy's much better than Jimmy G but It came from two places one I think Jimmy G was better than people give him credit for before his injury like that season that they went to the Super Bowl I think he had like 27 touchdowns 13 interceptions like almost 4,000 yards. He was not bad

He got hurt and then it's been like Jimmy G's kind of a joke. Like he was, he was good that season. There was legitimate Brock Purdy MVP discussion. Correct. But Brock Purdy is better both with his legs, with taking shots. Cause that was the big thing with Jimmy G is like, he can, he can throw the passes that are there. Can he take the big shot? Obviously we know what the Super Bowl, when he misses a manual Sanders by, you know, three inches.

That was the other part where it was like, he was three inches away from winning a Super Bowl. And even the other part where it was like, he was three inches away from winning a Super Bowl. And even the next year, two years later, they were very close to going back to the Super Bowl, you know, against the Rams, the NFC Championship game. So I was wrong there. I want to correct it, credit to me, because I'm not too big of a man to not say,

when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I was the stupid end of the show late Sunday thought. So can I say I was right? You were right. Thank you. So, yeah, I'm wrong. I was the stupid end of the show late Sunday thought. So can I say I was right? You were right. Thank you. So yeah, I mean, listen, I'll never shy away from saying I'm wrong. I'll own when I say something stupid.

The other part that the reason why I popped in my head was because I think it's fair. The Brock Purdy, Brock Purdy's good. Brock Purdy's been scary these playoffs for six of the eight quarters. And there were a couple of games this season where he just, if he's throwing it, he has interception games.

Yeah. Where if he throws one, it feels like he'll give you a shot at at least. The Ravens game, yeah. So it was more of a fear of Steve Spagnola with two weeks against Brock Purdy. I think Brock Purdy can still do it, but there's where the fear came from.

There's where it's like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. The Jimmy G. Discourse when he was playing was all about say what you want about the eye test, but he wins. And I love that. I love that. And he makes the throws that are there.

He's a winner. But Brock Purdy does make more throws. He takes more risks. He can run a lot better than Jimmy G. He throws a couple, that was wrong. He throws a few interceptions here or there in opportune time. So he's not like, obviously you would want

Patrick Mahomes over Brock Purdy. But Purdy's had such a good season, especially considering at the end of last year, the way it ended, people were like, is he gonna be the starter next year? Is he gonna heal? How is he gonna come back from the injury? He's responded to that.

And you can say like without any hesitation whatsoever. Next year, that's Brock Purdy's team. Like they got rid of Trey Lance. Right, right. They drafted Trey Lance and then they got for Jimmy G and then they got rid of him. Yeah. Right, so it is Brock Purdy's team.

The other one I wanted to correct, we're talking about the Dan Campbell, I have more stuff about this, but people were pointing out that I do, I am a proponent of kicking the field goal at the end of the half and I contradicted myself. I agree with kicking the field goal at the end of the half by Dan Campbell. The other third downs I still think were, that's how Dan Campbell coaches, but I do think that kicking a field goal at the end of the half because you don't get the benefit

of having them backed up if you don't get the fourth down is the smart play. We got to, I think for the Super Bowl, we got to make sure that we take like an hour. I know the producers booths is not going to like this to decompress because I feel like that Niners Lions game, we came in here right after and it was like, I haven't really like gathered all my thoughts. I just did it. Right. So that's where I made those two mistakes. I think that I would disagree. I like going forward at the end of the first half. I know that you don't get the benefit.

I understand that there's no benefit if you don't get it. I just like the benefit of their short yardage offense was really good. Try to score seven points. Try not to leave with three. I think you have a better chance of making seven than you do of making three. Probably not statistically, but I'm saying like,

the risk for going for three, as opposed to the reward for going for seven, I like going for seven there. And then in the second half, the second fourth down, I would have kicked it, but again, that just goes back to seeing the score being even on the scoreboard. Like maybe that's a dumb brain thing I have

where it's just like, it feels like it's worth it to kick this long field goal Just so I see the same numbers on either side of the scoreboard because that just feels way better Yeah, and still being down three points. And I know Dan Campbell So I have a bigger point I wanted to get to you but for the for the Dan Campbell discourse I've seen a lot of people Throwing out these stats and I went and I actually like this is sad that it took me like an hour to go through his entire game log Michael Badgley I'm talking about the stat that people are throwing out there are lions are 52.5% on the season in fourth down conversions and Michael Badgley is a career 77% kicker from 40 to 49 yards. So they're like, why wouldn't you just take the points. I was like, I feel like this is a little misleading. So I went and I looked a little deeper.

The Lions on the season were 17 for 20 from fourth and three or less. So I don't know what that's a percentage, 17 for 20. 85. 85, thank you. So 85% fourth and three and less. Michael Badgley in his career is 12 for 20 on kicks over 45 yards.

So a lot of his kicks, the 77% were 41 yard, 42 yard, 43 yard, I went through his entire game log. So that is not, what is that, 56%? Say the numbers again. 12 for 20. 12 for 20 is 60. 60%. So it's like 85%, 60%.

I think that's really the story is, you can debate the fourth down as long as you want. They did not trust their kicker and they should have gone into the playoffs with a kicker. They trusted more because that's really what it comes down to is like they their kicker in the playoffs was a guy who lost his job in the in the training camp and then got his job back because the guy who beat him out lost his job. Yeah. And I like the aggressiveness. That's who Dan Campbell is.

Yeah. I know that you have to understand the team that you're playing against, what're able to do and obviously the Niners If you give them the ball, there's a good chance they're gonna go down the field and score because they've got a fucking great running game and a good offense and You have to take that into consideration So it's not the same as doing like a 17 game season where you factor in some shittier opponents that kind of juice your stats a little bit You should be a little bit less likely to go for it.

But if it's fourth and two and the way that the game was going at the time, I have no problem with that. I still say like yeah, it sucks. But if you had made that, if you, if Josh Reynolds had completed that catch, if you had hung on to the ball, people would be like, yeah, that's Dan Campbell. This is aggressiveness. We love the lines. We love that mentality. Right. And I understand people will never see eye-to-eye on this and that's part of That's the best part about sports like we got we got a great game And then we got days of people debating fourth downs versus kicking field goals. That's I love it It really it tricks us into doing way more math than we normally would I was dude. Yeah

I was like I had to like take off my shoes and socks to do this Michael Badgley math because it was so fucking hard I was trying to figure out where he kicked all his field goals the end of the day though. I do believe in not playing the results as much as you play the process and Dan Campbell's a process guy and like yes if People will say well, they didn't get the fourth down so that that means they suck if they get the fourth downs like Dan Campbell's a genius And I I'd rather judge him on the process of like whether you get it or not I understand what you're doing I understand your thinking instead of being like well let's wait to see if he gets it and then

we'll judge it. Yeah but the third down at the goal line that was that was the dumbest thing ever that one you cannot defend Dan Campbell on that was an egregious misuse of his timeouts because he ended the game. Yeah that one He absolutely deserves all the criticism in the world So my bigger point that I wanted to get to and then we'll do Super Bowl storylines Two days removed from the championship Sunday and This has a little bit to do with the fact that Ben Johnson has come back to the Lions Which is huge like huge for the lines huge for Jared huge for the continuity. I Think that Ravens loss is so much worse for the lines.

Okay. I think it's so much worse because the Lions, and it sounds cliche, they died on their sword. They did what they do, and it didn't work, and the ball bounced, you know, the weird bounces that happened, the fumble, the Brandon Iuk, all these things happened. It sucked, it was a gut punch.

You were sitting there up 17 and a half, I understand that. The Ravens, two days removed, I still don't know what they were planning on doing in that game. Like we talked about it on Sunday, not running the ball. Like the Ravens squandered a incredible opportunity as a favorite at home to beat Patrick Mahomes that they

may never get again. Like they may never get that chance again and Burroughs coming back and like Josh Allen's still there and CJ Stroud like that was an opportunity that the Ravens could look back on in five ten years and be like that was it. We never had another chance. So I actually think the Ravens loss has aged worse than the Lions loss where the Lions like again they they went out the way they've gone this whole season and they were right there and there you can feel like you're building something the Ravens like this was your team you had everyone healthy you were at home for the AFC championship

game you had a better team than the Chiefs I do believe that but the Chiefs were able to just game plan better than you and your game plan stunk. I also think that with Lamar, there was something about him in the playoffs where he didn't play every single play like it was super important in terms of like being able to run the ball, right? Yeah. Like he was great from the pocket this year. He had made an obvious effort over the last couple of seasons, stay in the pocket, try

to find somebody downfield, work on your passing. He's gotten very, very good at it. And that's in the back of his head. But in the playoffs, when it's literally winter, go home, you have to have those moments where it's like, oh yeah, Lamar, you're the best athlete on the field. Getting 15, 20 yards, taking off from the pocket is okay. Like that's part of what makes you great. You know, you don't have to silence all the critics

by becoming a great pocket passer. You've proven you can do that. But still, what do you do better than anyone else? I think I heard Michael Irvin say this yesterday, but it's like, you talked to Tom Brady and he's like, yeah, if I could run like Lamar Jackson, I would have run like Lamar Jackson on every single play. Like they learned to be a pocket passer

because they didn't have that other ability that Lamar has. And Lamar Jackson on every single play. Like they learned to be a pocket passer because they didn't have that other ability that Lamar has. And Lamar sometimes just shuts that down. Like we saw it, he was waiting so long, he wasn't taking off, everybody was screaming, I'm like, run the ball. The offense wasn't the identity that the Ravens have built themselves around.

Number one, they didn't hand the ball off. And two, they didn't establish a running threat with Lamar, which would then change the entire defense. Like Lamar has to be able to be at a point where he's just like, I'm gonna take over this game with my legs and no one can stop. Right, and so that even adds more to the point I was making because it's a great point that you're saying about Lamar

and his urgency to run. When you think about the Raven's future, it's not a knock on Lamar to say that who would you rather have a 35 year old patch from Holmes or 35 year old Lamar Jackson? There will be a limit on his athleticism. You could even make the argument that he's lost maybe a tiny little bit of his explosiveness,

that one run where it felt like old Lamar would have taken it to the house. When he caught his own pass? No, no, the fourth and one. Yeah. He ran and he got like, I don't know, maybe he's dealing with something. But that was like those, he's not going to get younger. He's still got a lot of a lot of years, he's only 27. So it's not like I'm, I'm, I'm writing Lamar's like death sentence right now. I'm just saying the window is a little bit shorter for a Lamar Jackson than it is for a Patrick Holmes. Yeah, it kind of sucks if you're running quarterback,

because you get into the league and then everyone calls you running back and they like insult your passing ability and then you're like well I'm gonna show them I'm gonna become like a great passer then you become a great passer and everyone's like you need to run the fucking ball right what's going on so like there is it's a happy medium that's like impossible to hit if you're Lamar Jackson but if it's in the playoffs you run the fucking football you take 15 20 yards right if they're giving it to you all day long like that's like impossible to hit if you're Lamar Jackson. But if it's in the playoffs, you run the fucking football, you take 15, 20 yards. If they're giving it to you all day long.

Like that's very important for you to be able to do that and to keep a drive going and to keep the ball out of Patrick Mahomes' hand. Yeah, and at the end of the day, if you're a sports fan, I think that most people would agree, if your team has a bad loss, if you empty the tank in the bad loss, you can get over it a little bit easier. The Ravens didn't empty the

tank. You if you're a Ravens fan, you're sitting back just being like, wait, why didn't we run the ball? Why did we do all these things? You could why did we why did we not have a game plan for this situation? Whereas the Lions like we want to debate the fourth downs, that's fine. But you emptied the tank. Yeah. And that's all you want. You make the argument that the Ravens had their worst game of the season. Correct, they did.

Again. Yes. Like this happens in the playoffs a lot with them. Right, so I just was thinking about it, like two days removed that I was like, I think that they're both horrific losses. I'm not diminishing the Lions. I like to minimize.

To minimize. That's a good fucking work. What Lions fans are going through, but Ben Johnson definitely helps because that adds into the equation, but it's more like If I'm a razor's-hand, I'd just be sitting there be like what what why why did we do it the way we did it? What happened? Why did we not try to do things differently? Yeah, it's gonna be tough to get over Yeah, very tough and the window in the window we window thing and just having a home

Championship game is a four and a half point favorite. And holding Mahomes scoreless in that championship. Right. The Chiefs punted seven times. How many times are the Chiefs going to punt? How many games are the Chiefs going to punt seven times? Never. It's crazy. Second half, I should say.

I do think that Mahomes is good enough, though, that if he had to score, I know this sounds stupid. If he had to score, he would have. Like the Bills game, it was clear the Chiefs were like, the Bills can score on us us So we have to match them. Mm-hmm. I feel like the the the AFC championship game the chiefs were like We got them. They can't do anything offensively like we just need to make no mistakes. They weren't taking huge shots, right? Right. All right, so let's do super super full story lines. You ready? Yeah Hank I just I'm just looking over at you and getting angry. Why. Because you're being a dick about I'm sorry I'm back on Belichick. I'm back on I want Belichick.

I want Belichick for you too I want to Ben Johnson. Oh we should we should say I reached out to an anonymous head coach who does not have a job right now to inquire whether or not he'd be interested about the commanders just see if it was a good job. He also was asked if he'd be interested in the Bears in a year. And yeah, I also asked him if he would be interested in a former Tennessee Titans linebacker who also used to play in DC and was a captain there. I asked if he would... Anonymous. Anonymous is all anonymous. Don't speculate on who it could be. It could be anybody.

I asked him if he was willing to coach the commanders. So I was just going through it after I found out that Ben Johnson knew, trying to just find some level of happiness, he said, tell them to call me. So if you're in the commander's front office, just reach out to any former head coach that you might know because he would be willing to pick up the call and I'd be very happy with him. Yes. Ben Johnson in a new quarterback

would have been so exciting. Would have been so exciting. That's the thing, it was the perfect time for it to happen. I know. And it's it to happen. I know. And it's not going to. I know. Because my stupid dream. Yeah.

Okay, Super Bowl storylines. Should we go? So we should do the obvious ones first. Taylor Swift's gonna be a huge storyline. I actually think also just the amount of traffic that websites will get by posting, will Taylor Swift be at the Super Bowl is a big storyline because she's doing her jet thing.

It's the new, what time is the Super Bowl? Yeah, or even like, how will Taylor Swift make it to the Super Bowl from Japan? There's already been a lot of content about how much time it would take after the concert, the flight time, where she would land in Vegas. Is that enough time? Would you get to spend the night with Travis the night before? Yep. So I think we, yeah, we have not yet even begun to reach

our quota of Taylor Swift content. Yes. The boring ones, not really boring, the real ones. I actually want to know how many years of livable, survivable life on planet Earth Taylor Swift will be removing from everybody due to her carbon outplay. Someone write that book. Traveling from Tokyo to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.

Jake, can you can you figure that out? I'll look into it. I want to know how many years of human life she is deleting from existence. I want to know how many birthdays I can tell my kids confidently they'll have. You should be like, listen, it's Tay Tay needed to get to Super Bowl. So we're looking at like 55. Yeah. So I'm not going to be a grandfather. I'd say it's not going to happen.

It's not good for you. All right, so the boring ones out of the way first. Patrick Mahomes, Goat Conversation. We're going to get a lot of that. Patrick Mahomes just to set the stage. He is 14 and three in the playoffs. If he wins the Super Bowl this year, only Brady, Montana, and Bradshaw

will have more Super Bowl wins than him. And he'd be tied with Troy Aikman and only Brady and Montana will have more playoff wins than him. So right now he's tied with Manning and I think Elway. So he would have 15, he'd be 15 in three and he would only be, I think Montana has 16 playoff wins, which is crazy because Montana just, he just would go to the playoffs, win the Super Bowl. They also didn't have super well-guarded. Correct, correct. But so he would be, he'd have the same amount of,

he'd be one back from Montana and obviously a lot back from Brady, but crazy. It's crazy that he tied Peyton Manning. Yeah. Like Peyton Manning, arguably Mount Rushmore quarterback. Yeah. And he tied him in play. And he's 28 years old.

Also Andy Reed, if he wins this Super Bowl, he would be third all time, tied for third all time with Super Whirlwinds by a head coach, Chuck Nolan, Bill Belichick, the only ones ahead of him, tied with Joe Gibbs and Bill Walsh. Pretty crazy. Also Andy Reed, now that Bill Belichick might not have a job. I did the math. and if he coaches for five to six more years and the chiefs go between 11 and 13 wins, he will be the all time leading NFL coach and wins. Yeah. So he right now he's fourth. Yeah. I think you need to zoom out and just say about the chiefs. If they win this game dynasty. Yeah. Because that's a rule right. Dynasty

talk three championships in five years. That's dynasty. Yeah. Because that's a rule, right? Dynasty talk. Three championships in five years, that's dynasty. This is crowning them being the new dynasty, the dynasty of the 20s. First back to back since the Patriots. So yeah, it would be that. And then the other side, it's the Kyle Shanahan Redemption arc. Yep.

Because Kyle Shanahan, if you're not familiar, I think everyone who's probably listening is familiar, he was the OC on the 23 Falcons when the Patriots came back on them, he was up 10 with eight minutes and 53 seconds left in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs. And he also, which I referenced earlier that, uh, Jekoski Tart, as I say, his name, I think it's Jekoski, Jekoski Tart dropped that interception in the NFC championship game against the Rams when they were up 17-14 with like 10 minutes left

And if he catches that probably win So we he's had some pretty horrific losses and that's going to translate directly to the Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes discussion and Patriots chiefs Can you beat Kyle Shanahan in a Super Bowl right? So that's gonna add another layer to it. Yeah, we've got the Alex Smith Bowl Yep, which is also the Joe Montana Bowl. Yep. Probably a more impactful player. I think we did the Joe Montana bowl the first time. So let's do this one out. Okay. This is the Alex Smith bowl. Yeah. And probably the two most attractive head coaches in the league going head to head, right? You'd say. Yeah. Allen Andy. Absolutely. Maybe we might get some stray Colin Kaepernick discourse. I'm sure Florio figured a way to hammer that in because he went to college at Nevada, right?

Yeah played for the Niners. Yeah, be on the lookout for Mike florist on like that There's gonna be something Darren Ravel is gonna do something with pond stars. I haven't figured out what yet He'll probably go to their like African-American history section and see what he can pick up there Yeah, but he's gonna stop by the the was it the silver pawn shop golden silver pawn shop? Yeah. Both quarterbacks have dads who are drafted by Major League Baseball. Oh, that's cool. So we'll probably talk about that a little bit. Yeah, there should be a lot of Brock Purdy stories. Brock Purdy story. A lot of Brock how much money he makes. The fact that he goes farming. Yeah. All this stuff. The McCaffrey Shanahan connection. So Mike Shanahan won a Super Bowl with Ed McCaffrey, Kyle Shanahan trying to win a Super Bowl

with Christian McCaffrey. They're gonna talk about that a lot. There's gonna be a lot of Vegas stories. So one that I would like to just hope that becomes a story is just a reminder that John Fisher is a fuckhead. He is bringing the Oakland A's to Las Vegas. I don't know if you guys saw this, but he was, they had like a big, like welcoming party,

and he just crickets. It was awesome. I'll play it for you real quick, because he's a fuckhead. So I want people to remember that. One more time for Mary Beth and John Fisher, please. The Las Vegas A's. We like the sound of that right Vegas yeah yes are we alive

back there I thought for a second that was an ed Cooley situation where they sound down on a real live back there yeah John Fisher's a fuckhead yeah remember that um in terms of the gambling so NFL players are not allowed, or players in the game are not allowed to step foot in a casino. NFL players are not allowed to step foot in a sports book until the Super Bowl's over. Who do you think's gonna get busted?

K. Sean Booty. Yeah, but that's crazy, right? They can't, because usually NFL players can gamble on other sports that are not football. But for this, for Vegas, they can't, because usually NFL players can gamble on other sports that are not football. But for this, for Vegas, they're not allowed to be in a sports book until after the game. It's crazy that they're, I'm happy they're doing it in Vegas, but it's so insane that they're doing it in Vegas and they're like, but you also, like everyone gambles on everything in Vegas, but you guys can't.

It's such a weird rule. Goodell probably has Calvin Ridley wearing like an ankle monitoring system right now. Yes. Just like, let me know that you're not even allowed in Nevada. Yeah. Like, stay away. Yeah. Also, with the Vegas storylines, I'm interested to see what media member is going to get arrested.

I've got Warren Sapa's minus 150. I feel like he's the f- if you're bet on people Warren saps probably up there. I Yeah, somebody from maybe this company. Maybe maybe Hank There's I can get arrested. Yeah. Oh, so who do you think Terry Bradshaw Terry Bradshaw? That'd be very fox doesn't have the right thought. I don't know if they'll be there show up Yeah, you might just that might be how he gets arrested there. Like, Terry, you're not doing the Super Bowl. A manual Acho. He might call in a bomb thread on the dispensary there. Greeny.

Tony Romo? Greeny getting arrested would be something else. Would be awesome. Great story. Jay walking. If anyone wants to set Greeny up, that'd be amazing. Human trafficking, Mike Greenberg. Now, I have one weird storyline that I don't know if it actually

would be discussed, but I was thinking about it. This is the worst possible matchup for Las Vegas Raiders fans, because they have the Niners who they used to share a city with kind of, Oakland and San Francisco right next to each other, hate them, and they have an AFC West rival. It would be like if they did the Super Bowl in Philadelphia and it was Cowboys Patriots. Like that sucks for Raiders fans. Yeah, I was just like that that sucks for Raiders fans. Yeah, they have to deal with this. So sorry, I guess the Chargers Niners might be worse for Raiders fans. I feel like Raiders and Chargers fans always fought.

And I think I think I think now is the chiefs. Yeah, now is the chiefs. That's the they're just they really don't like them. They hate Mahomet. Yeah, I don't know how many Las Vegas Raider fans are. I mean, there's a lot of Raiders fans but that they're just like having a huge party of your two teams you absolutely hate right in your face. Oh, we can also do like this is kind of for the crown of who the best tight end football is. Yeah. Yeah. This is the tight end bowl. This is the tight end bowl. Kittle Kelsey. My

vote is for Kittle. I agree. Kittle. You should bet on him. We should. We should. Yeah, we're gonna get so many Kelsey. We're gonna get some Donna Kelsey, Jason Kelsey, who we won on the show. Max wants him very badly, so he can become best friends with him.

Any other storylines? I'm sure we'll get some, there's gotta be some guys from Vegas. Colin Cowder's gonna have the best time Yeah, he's gonna be in like old Vegas. Yeah swingers. Yeah Not the movie. Yeah, he's actually gonna be yeah I'll have a nerd nuggets of the Super Bowl next Thursday. Oh nice a new jingle. Oh Special jingle for the Super Bowl. Okay. What's the jingle gonna be?

Find out next Friday. What's the CBS theme song? I can by the way when they do those things where they say how quickly can you identify the NFL theme songs, it's like quarter quarter of a second for each one. But it's only impressive when babies do it. Yeah, that's out my head. I don't know what the CBS one is, but if I heard it. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da That's gonna be the new one. This is nothing to do, this is not related whatsoever with the fact that we have the Super Bowl Nerd Nuggets with the New Jingle next Thursday.

I was actually thinking about this independent, but it does kind of relate. I don't want to die today, but it would rock to die on your birthday. Would it? Yeah, yeah, it would. At the die on your birthday. Would it? Yeah, it would. At the end of your birthday? No, but it would rock to have like your grave people would stop and be like, oh shit. But I think-

You just went out the way he came in. You'd go out as a 39 year old, but you didn't really live 39 years. I'd be fine, I'd be dead. And I wouldn't have to listen to the new nerd nugget jingle. But not really. Again, I don't want to die right now. I don't wanna die right now. No, but technically you're not 39, right? Because you were never zero. No, you're 39 after you, whatever time you were born.

I didn't know what time I was born. No, but you were born in the morning. But you were never zero years old. Oh. It's like the argument of the millennium. Yeah, I can't do that math. But I think it would rock to die on your birthday. Again, I don't wanna die today.

But if I did, please play the jingle and my ghosts will come back and haunt everyone. If I had to pick a day to die, it would be the day after a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's true. Like it would suck to die the day before the season started. Or the day. Yeah, I wish you were a really safe light. Yeah, would you?

Why'd you say it's so creepy? Because he wanted us to die that day. I don't know what it was. Yeah, well, I just say it's so creepy because he wanted us to die that day. I don't know what it was. I didn't want you to die. Yeah, what was happening? What was happening that day? I didn't know. That was me just trying to be polite.

No, it was weird. It was not being weird. I wanted you guys to have a safe flight. No, it was weird. You're weird. It was weird, you were weird. Any other Super Bowl storylines? Yeah, this is NFL rigged is getting a lot of content.

Yeah. Let's go around Yeah, NFL is rigged for views for money. Yeah, it is that's they literally changed the rulebook to make offense better Correct. Yes, it is it is rigged for money. Yeah, they made a tail as well as download peacock. I think yes I think every single team that loses in the championship game spends like a week or two being like rigged They get this week. Yeah, they get this week to be like it sucks it's rigged and then next week we talk about the Super Bowl. Yep. Yeah. It's totally fair. They they they deserve that time. Um there will it's funny because you say that the people

have to jump off the whole color scheme pretty quickly. Mm hmm. Didn't come true. So they gotta find something else. Oh well guess what it is. What are the primary colors? That's a lot of red, right? Yeah. Swift Swift, does she have any albums that feature the color red prominently? What about Usher maybe getting sick and Taylor Swift doing the halftime show? Oh, you think Kadele's gonna get on the horn with Fauci?

Be like, give Usher a little cocoa. What do you think? I think they may just bring her out for a song. No way. I don't think she'll do it. You know what, Usher should they may just bring her out for a song. No way. I don't think she'll do it. You know what Usher should be on stage? He should have a guitar and after a song he should be like, who wants Taylor to sing a song and hold the guitar up and be like, come on Taylor, there she is. Everybody tell Taylor. Make her say no. Make her, yeah, make her like deny America that treat. The one thing I am rooting for is, I hope Travis Kelsey proposes Taylor Swift

on the field after, not for the reasons you're saying it's awesome. It would break the internet. No, but I don't root for that reason. This show is on the internet. I root for it because all the Swifties would have to do mental gymnastics to be like, that's so cute that her boyfriend proposed her at a football game.

Well, that's not cute. They'd also be like, her boyfriend proposed to her in front of. Well, that's not cute. They'd also be like her boyfriend proposed her in front of live cameras with all this pressure on her. Yeah. Oh. You're like, yeah. That's, like she says, yeah, she didn't give it. True Swift, if you're a true Swift,

yeah, like me and Big Cat, you agree that Taylor should be the one that proposes to whoever her fiance is. Travis Swift. Travis Swift, she should be his name. Take your last name. But I want it to be, I want it to be on the Jumbotron and then Swifties have to be like,

that's so beautiful, it's like, I don't think so. What if it wasn't even on camera? What if it was just like in between the third and fourth quarter and it's like, it's like proposals sponsored by course. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm rooting for. Travis, actually how much would it cost

to get something on the Jumbotron? Ooh. Because now the wheels are turning will you marry me? I would like to Incept I would like to insert a proposal to tell Swift from Travis Kelsey on that Jumbotron during the game Can we try to find that out? Yeah, or someone else do it for us. We don't care how it gets done We don't care how it gets done just has to say Taylor. Will you marry me Travis Kelsey? Yeah, it must be impossible for somebody named Travis and Taylor to get engaged at a football game at an NFL game these days. I bet you they're probably going to deny those.

Why? I don't, I just feel like the Jumbotron people, they need the Michigan state Jumbotron people. They'll let anything for us. They will. I denied an opportunity for us to take out a full page out in the Super Bowl official program at the beginning of the season It costs six figures. Oh really? So I didn't run it by you guys. No. Yeah, I would have said no to that Thank you. I would have said no to that. I ran it by Max and he's like, yeah, no shot. Yeah, that was good No shot. That was good decision by Max. No shot. No shot. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. Right there. Yeah, I think we landed good with the Miami of Ohio

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Instacarp by going to CoorsLight.com slash take celebrate responsibly Coors Brewing Company Golden Colorado. Henry. My hot seat is myself and memes Connor. We are less than a week away from having to perform a standup slash live show in Las Vegas. I have to do an hour. It's been hanging over my head for the last, last like three weeks have been bad. And yeah, I'm just, I've been in the hot seat.

I've been in the hot seat to consume my brain. I'm like paralyzed with anxiety over it. I'm not looking forward to it. And, you know, it's crunch time. You're actually gonna be doing standup tonight at the Laugh Factory in Chicago. Yeah, which I thought about not doing just because if it goes really, really, really poorly,

then it's just gonna make my fear and anxiety worse, but I'm sucking it up, I'm doing it tonight. And we'll see. I mean, this is the worst punishment we've ever done by far and I'm just I'm dreading it. Yeah, the good thing is you're not thinking about it at all I think there's like the six hot satsi in a row. Well, it's my firefest last week Mm-hmm. It's not on your mind. No, it's it is it is the only thing on my mind. Yeah, no

I know I haven't been able to I'm excited for it to be over because you have been not irritable, but irritable. Yeah, it's like, it's bad. I don't even know. I'm trying to, because I usually- All my hate back. Tell me what hate. I try to stay positive and be like, yeah, this is how I'm going to do it. But it's such a big task and I'm so unprepared and just like you

can't you know even a good stand-up it'd be hard for them to do an hour. Let's let's practice tell me a joke. I don't have me I'm the joke. Have you thought about trying to break the record for like longest time underwater and just be carted off in an ambulance? That's not a bad idea. Yeah it would be a good idea. Just like, hey everyone, we're gonna break a record tonight

and then you just like pass out and then we just have to like shows over, he died or almost died. Yeah, Drowning at CPR then when I come back it'd be a great pop. Yeah, undertaker moment. And if you don't come back, you don't have to do the rest of the show.

Right. Yeah, that's a good idea. The endorphins are gonna be so high when you're done though. Yeah. Like you're going to get like a runner's high. Oh yeah, I'm going to be a new man. It truly is like a second take on life. Yeah, you got this.

Because I won't have. I've never really had like anxiety, anxiety. And I have moments of anxiety at different points, but I've never had something that's like hanging over my head the way this this has yeah and it's not fun I envy people that that suffer from daily anxiety yeah this time next week it'll be over yeah yeah you got it all right what's your cool throne my cool throne is Gardner Minshew oh Pro Bowler oh hey huge I always like how that.

With Jalen Hertz as well. Like on the NFL. That was such an insult. That like. It was throzing the worst quarterbacks for Pro Bowler. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jalen Hertz isn't that bad. It was very funny being like, oh yeah, Jalen Hertz

didn't make the Pro Bowler. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah. All right. Good, good for Gardner Minshew. Yeah. Joins the list of Tyler Huntley. Mac Jones. Mac Jones. Mr. Biskie. Pro Bow that. Yeah. All right. Good for God's sake. Yeah. Joins the list, Tyler Huntley.

Mac Jones. Mac Jones. Mr. Biskie. Oh, Lee. Pro Bowlers. Yeah. Okay. PFT, your hot seat quilter on.

Interestingly enough, my hot seat is Mac Jones. Oh. So did you see the story about Mac Jones this season, how he was complaining? So when he was going like back and forth, is he going to be benched, is Bailey's appy going to be the starter, Belchuk not saying who the starter's gonna be. Who would be on the list of people that you would complain to about something like that, big cat, if you're the Patriots starting quarterback?

So if you're the Patriots starting quarterback, who would be the list? Dan Shaughnessy. Yeah, Mike Florio. Maybe a reporter, maybe. Albert Breer. Maybe family members. You probably talked to them.

Oh, okay, family members, yeah. Yeah, Mac Jones actually complained to the Jets. Oh about it So yeah, the Patriots quarterback was on an island according to team sources the communication had broken down and He was demoted to third string and leading up to this game the quarterback reps were split and He called it a broken relationship And then he apparently talked to people on the Jets about it as per Jerry Horton on horsewalsports.com.

So, Jerry Thornton. Jerry Thornton. Jerry Thornton, here's a who? Yeah, sorry, I dropped the T for him. But yeah, so I don't know what that says about Mack and his future on the team. Probably nothing good. No.

Well, the guy that hates the Jets is gone. Yeah, that's true. You think the new guy's gonna like him? No, probably not. Yeah, probably not. I also saw a report that looked like it was from Mack Jones' camp that said he got benched and then tried to be as helpful as he could and got shunned.

Oh. But it read like. Mack Jones' mom wrote that report. Yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean like shunned him like they were like no, we don't want your help speak to him Yeah, we don't want your help shunned. Hmm. Like he's like hey guys no problem being benched How can I help and they're like no get out of here? Yeah, okay, and then you're cool throne Yeah, it says sorry real quick the Patriots quarterback was so bothered by his team's lack of communication

He told a member of the jet staff that he appreciated how their organization handled Zach Wilson. He was like, I wish that was me. Congrats to the Jets. You beat the Patriots. Twice. That's two consecutive Dubs memes. Yeah. Okay.

And then my cool throne, I get a couple. Jalen Ward is my first cool throne. Okay. He's a backup running back on the Steelers, new offensive coordinator, the Steelers, Arthur Smith. Yes. Loves backup running backs. Jalen Warren's really damn good backup.

Yes. Yes. Run the ball. Big, big gear coming for him. I'm happy for Arthur. Yes, me too. Feel like that's a good spot for him. He's a good offensive coordinator.

He's a great dude too. And a good guy. Rune form. And, um, my other cool throne is going to be anonymous scouts Because they're back. It's getting into being draft. Oh, yeah Caleb Williams presumed number one overall draft pick this year has been the trashing has started Oh, yeah with Caleb Williams Oh, yeah, and I for one would like to agree with the anonymous scout

And if I were picking number one in the draft, I would not take him I would let him fall down to whatever team is behind the number one overall pick. Yes. Let them have a shot at him. But the anonymous scouts are going off about Caleb, Caleb Williams saying. I will not be deterred. Saying things like, you remember he paints his nails. Yeah, that's fine.

Volgarity. They said he had a panic attack and a public breakdown. A mental breakdown and cried. No chance. And then he answers questions at the podium by saying weird things like I'm gonna go home cuddle with my dogs yeah these are all big red guy these are all big red flags no any team and I rather be a dog guy than a cat guy if you're drafting number one overall and you have a quarterback that loves his dogs I would be like I don't know if I

want this guy on my team and let some other team get him I want him he's a dog so yeah they said that he is having a mental breakdown after losses this year and it's definitely there's some connection with a team that wants Caleb Williams. Correct. That is putting this out there. But I choose to believe all this and if I were the Bears, I'd take a very long hard look. I'll tell you what, if there's, I would be more concerned about the guy who doesn't get any negative press because that means he's just not good enough to get that. Is that how it works? Yeah. Drake May has no negative anonymous sources about him. That means everyone just thinks he stinks. I don't think he stinks, by the way.

What is the, I think it was Eminem that said, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't poppin', right? Yeah, so Caleb Williams is poppin'. Yeah, Eminem. Stephen Chase, if you don't have haters, you don't have fans. Yeah, haters are a marketing team. Yeah.

He also said that. All right, my hot seats, it's a little bit of a weird one. It's new Panthers head coach Dave Canales. So congrats Dave Canales for getting the job. This is kind of a lesson in like maybe don't ever get that big job because then people will start like looking at your life. Dave Canales co-wrote a book with his wife about marriage a few years ago. And now people are like, hey, what's the deal with this? So he co-wrote a book called This

Marriage? The Question That Changed Everything. In the book, Canalis 42 admits to having had multiple affairs earlier in his life. A portion of the book concerns his sexual infidelity and how the couple worked their way through it, partly through counseling, which they advocate and eventually found their way back to a Christian based marriage. Canalis also described in the book the addictions he once had to both pornography and alcohol. And we would never have found this out if he didn't become a hegemo. No chance! Yeah. And it was actually published, I think, two years ago.

So somewhat recent. It sounds like his wife made him write a book. Yeah. If you're co-authoring a book with your wife. Talking about your porn addiction? Or you say, like, this is my big gesture to prove to you that I'm over this. I will write a book with you.

And we'll each put our name on it just talking about what a bad husband. Yes. It's like a self-flagellation being like, I'm a bad guy. Yeah. I used to be a bad guy. Is this okay, honey? Is everything cool now?

Because I wrote that. Your name was on it. We're getting paid off it. Yeah, see? See? I apologize in public. Yeah, he told everyone. He told everyone.

Which is also kind of a weird move. When did you write this book? 2022. Okay, so he was the offensive coordinator. Yeah. Yeah, for an R. Maybe not the Bucks. I think he might've been with the Rams then. It'd be a little bit weirder

if he didn't have a prominent job at the time. And he just wrote a book about how he sucked as a husband up until then. Yeah, he was, no, he was Seahawks' quarterback's coach then. Which is like, if you're a quarterback's coach, you can write that book, no one's gonna care. Yeah. But then you went to OC, then you went to head coach.

Yeah, listen, I'm happy that they figured out their marriage. That's a great story. Probably has some good lessons on like how marriage is tough. I don't know if I'd ever wanna write a book being like, hey, I jerked off a lot and I cheated on my wife and here's how I did it. So it sounds to me like he wasn't addicted enough to pornography lot and I cheated on my wife and here's how I did it. So it sounds to me like he wasn't addicted enough to pornography if he was cheating on

his wife. Right. If you're completely addicted to pornography, you got no bullets left in the chamber. You should have watched more porn than he would have been fine. He's addicted to coming. Yeah. I'm sure no rival fanbases will use that against him. No.

All right, my cool throne is Dylan Brooks. He's back. You thought he would be deterred by being publicly humiliated by LeBron last year, but nope, he's not. He was just going after LeBron last night, hit him real hard in the face. Not that hard. LeBron made it seem like he was never gonna have a face again.

LeBron made it seem like he needed facial reconstruction surgery because he got hit in the face. Well, he made it seem like he needed facial reconstruction surgery. But he got hit in the face. Well, he was seeing two rims, or three rims. Three rims. So he hit the one in the middle afterwards. I'm just happy because Dylan Brooks, like I didn't want him to just stop being a total asshole.

No, he's the LeBron stopper. Yeah. This is what he does. Yeah. He does everything but stop LeBron. Yeah. He's LeBron stopper. He shows you all the ways to not be able to stop LeBron.

All right, your hot seat cool throne, Jake. My hot culture have to be accountable here and say the heat have lost seven games in a row Mm-hmm. They've lost every game since they extended our expulse throw and this is really a crossroads for your season I mean, there are yeah, you have to bounce back here. This is where the documentary starts, or this is where everything lights up and is a disaster. So yeah, Kyle Lowry, what do you think about him? Well, he's out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

All right, so you're correct on that. Like was he a big part of heat culture? He might have been. No, J-Bots heat culture. Yeah, so like this is where Jimmy Butler has to rally the troops and say he culture. He culture. Or you just become the eight seat again and do what you did last year. That might be the roadmap actually. Yeah. Just like stinking the regular season and then you get to the playoffs

and you flip. None of these losses during this streak have been particularly close. I was in the garden Saturday and the Knicks were playing well. Yeah. They looked good. And my cool throne's the three point challenge. We have a new contest coming to the NBA All Star Weekend. It is Steph versus Sabrina Yonescu in a three point contest. So how many did she make last time?

You know Sabrina. Sabrina from Oregon, Kobe. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah New York Liberty no definitely know her she was yeah I'm listening to Kobe was her mentor I support women I definitely knew Sabrina I know who she is so this is gonna be a cool challenge we're going one-on-one yeah and being stop laughing what she is like trying to make underrated faces to the camera stop laughing I'm shocked you don't know who that is she I'm sure I do yes she's one of the best players in the world yeah yeah duh I knew

that Sabrina from Oregon there was a great three-point shooter yeah there was a bunch of money around her when Kobe died because her and Kobe were like best friends hmm yeah oh yeah yeah Caitlin Clark I know I can't cause all the space Angel Reese yeah Angel Reese yeah but know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.BA balls. I like this just because it's going to make some people very upset online. That's going to be fun to watch. If she beats him?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. All right. Or listen, they need to add more stuff, so I'm good. I'm in on this. It's really a win for content, because if she beats him,

then people are going to get very angry about some things. If she gets blown out, then people are going to be very angry about something. Right. So either way, we're gonna have a lot of people off in this country. Yeah, the only way it can work is if Sabrina like has an incredible like Mrs like three shots and the Steph misses like two. And everyone's like,

holy shit, they're both incredible. Yep. Yeah. I predict if she wins, Joe Biden will issue a tweet congratulating her maybe Dr. Jill and then people will say would he have congratulated Steph Curry if he won right I'm gonna put that down and then I'm squatting on that take and if Steph kills her Clay Travis will be like this is a mockery of my once loved NBA All-Star weekend yes and I'm not watching because of China yeah all right okay uh good good job Jake uh all right let's get to our interviews. We've got two great interviews. We've got Joe Buck

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head to onepeloton.com slash deals, terms apply. And now here's Joe Buck. Ooh. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, favorite friends, probably the guy that we actually, I don't know if you get this, Joe, but whenever we have listeners ask us, like what was our big first moment,

usually your name comes up. It is Joe Buck, Hall of Fame broadcaster. Are you in Hall of Fame yet? Yeah, I think so. Which one? I mean, like the, I got an award from the pro football one. That's not in the Hall of Fame. I agree.

I completely agree. Is it? But, I mean, yeah, I don't know. They give awards in my category. They don't, you don't, not really a Hall of Famer. Okay. There should be a Voice Hall of Fame. Yeah.

You're in it. Big Game Voice Hall of Fame, remember, Joe Buck. Yeah. You're in it. Big Game Voice Hall of Fame. Remember Joe Buck. Yeah. I'll accept that without any committees voting on it or anything. But yeah, I do know that I get the same stuff. I whatever last game we did, I think I was in where would I have been? Baltimore. And I saw somebody out the night before the game and I'm like, Oh my God, I love you. I love you I'm part of my take. I mean those guys make so much fun of you. I mean, I'm sorry those guys hate you I'm like, I don't think they hate me I hope not and if they do then I'll know I'll never go on again, but I Convinced me that you don't hate me. We do not hate you if we hated you we are

Like sociopaths. Well, I think it was a beautiful moment because when you first came on the show, we didn't know what to expect from you. I don't think you knew what to expect from us. Totally, yeah. But at the same time, we kind of figured out like, oh, we really like Joe Buck. And then Joe Buck was like,

oh, I kind of like what these guys are about. I was scared to death. An old PR guy at Fox, great guy, Jonathan Buttnick. It's like, you gotta go on the show, it's great, and it's different, and it's a younger audience, and I went on and you guys were obviously making fun of the size of my head. And, you know, I said shit and fucking words

that I don't typically say into a microphone, and I got off the thing, I was like, all right, I held my own against those fucking punks. And then I texted Jonathan, I said, I think I might get fired for this. I'm not sure, but yeah, I live to tell. Yeah, no, I mean, we are forever grateful for your friendship and what you've done for us.

But it's good to have you on. We figured end of the season, hadn't talked to you in a while. First question is, why aren't you on vacation? Are you not taking a vacation after the season? Because I have to imagine after every football season, you let out a big sigh of, that was awesome, but I can now get my life back a little bit.

A little bit. But I think now that there's no more baseball in my life, um, I think it's, it's kind of more depressing than anything for me because I think you get competitive and I think, you know, I think all of our different groups that do what we do at NBC and CBS and us and Kevin and Greg, I mean, everybody's competitive to some degree. And it's like, oh man, now they're doing the NFC champ game or oh, they're doing the AFC champ game and we're sitting there watching it with the rest of the world. And you just you watch it going, oh, I wish I was doing that game.

But yeah, I it's it's a nice feeling to be finished, but there's kind of an emptiness too. That's it's weird. Sounds like you want baseball back in your life. You actually sound exactly like us when the football season ends. Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

I mean, there's a lot of other sports out there. Is there one event, not talking about another man's job. Is there another event that you'd like to call? Like in your dream scenario, would you like to just parachute in, do the Olympics and get out? Oh my god, no. No, I'm so happy that other people do all these other sports I did a bunch of college basketball when I was young. Um, I've done

Horse jumping. I've done live bass fishing. I've done Robbie Knievel jumping over limousines in Vegas. Uh, Checked a lot of boxes guys. I've checked a lot of boxes and I'm happy to just be uh, Just checking one my trucks would be good too. Yeah. You ever thought about that? Oh. But you have to do the, like talk. You got to go. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. I don't know what's in your contract,

but we do have a mini golf, three day mini golf tournament coming up. You couldn't get in that. No? No. We did. We did. You are calling.

You guys hated me doing golf anyway. So why would I do that? Yeah, no, you weren't good at golf. We did. You are calling. You guys hated me doing golf anyway. So why would I do that? Yeah, no, you weren't good at golf. Shut up. All right, so season's over. It probably does suck. You're right. Like watching all these big games,

like I want to be in the mix. 2027 is when you have the Super Bowl again. Do you have like a big countdown clock in your house? That would be sick. Like the rivalry clocks that college football has? Yeah. yeah, that would go over huge in the house. No. And I think it's probably a natural reaction to feel that way. I am friends with everybody that I watched yesterday. And we do get to do a divisional game, which is nice. We didn't get that year one. So that's a new part of the deal. But yeah, I'm good. I'm

just I'm just I'm just venting. I'm just being as open as I can be that when you finish after going week to week, and and it's over, it's, I mean, it feels like there's a hole in your life a little bit. It's, it's a sign that you truly love your job like that, because we do have that same feeling where you when you love your job, and then you kind of unplug for that same feeling, where you, when you love your job and then you kind of unplug for a minute, you, you miss it a little bit where you're like, that's what kind of gets me going every morning is like, yeah, job. Yeah, and I've got, I mean, I'm 54, I've got five and a half

year old twins, they've been sick from and out of school for the last two weeks. And I've just, I've had enough. Yeah. I mean, I just, I want to go back to work. Get the kids back to school. I've been saying that because I had a, I had a stretch where it was like, my son's school didn't start for a week in January, and then it was a day where zero degrees, they canceled it.

Get the kids back in school. You gotta go to school. Gotta go to school. Get them to school. We're basically homeschooling right now, which I am not qualified to do. I have no interest in that. I have no patience for that. I have no, as I said, qualifications,

but we're here like trying to how to teach a five year old the correct direction to start an S. That's my life now. So does one of the two of them have the buck voice? Can you tell already? One of the two of them is kind of the athlete. And the other one is gonna be like a Disney kid entertainer singer. And that's the one that Michelle claims. I claim the athlete. Okay. I'm not certain I should, but I feel like that's kind of how it's broken down with the twins in my house. Yeah. Yeah. Are you gonna work with them on their diction, on their pronunciation?

No. I would, I, my dad did that. And we would drive home from Cardinal Games night after night after night. And that was really the only thing that he was on me for. It was more about diction and not falling into the same trap. So saying the same, ground ball to shortstop is not a chopper to short

every time you gotta change it up, you gotta vary things. It was more that, not here's how you call a home run, here's how you call a double into the gap. It's more about kind of the mechanics of it. And if they want to, sure, but I would never, I'm not gonna be that dad that's pushing kids into something. Yeah, have you had the thought that the way

the media has changed? It's probably more likely that one of your two sons will end up being a shit head podcaster like us than being an announcer like you. Yeah, yeah, I would say the odds are better. Yeah. It will be, in your words, shit head podcast. We could teach them.

You tell them to get them to Uncle Big Cat and Uncle PFT. I think you guys have done well. This is, there are podcasts and then there are podcasts. I tried the podcast thing for two years, maybe two and a half years. It was fun. I enjoyed it. We had great guests and we had no traction whatsoever. So that's just the way it goes.

You gotta piss your pants. Yeah, you gotta be bigger shit heads. Yeah.'s just the way it goes. You gotta piss your pants. You gotta be bigger shitheads. Yeah. You weren't shithead enough. When I get fired, which it will happen at some point, it's the podcast will be infinitely better, I promise. Well, I think the problem you might have run into is that you started doing the podcast when you were already Joe Buck and you were already you didn't have really anything. You already

had a lot to lose. So you were already kind of like at the top of your profession. So you couldn't really shit on anything. That's true. And we started, we can be, we can be assholes. And then that's how you gain followers being assholes. Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. You're right. I did it with Oliver Hudson, who is, you know, one of my closest friends. And he was in the category of, I've got nothing to lose. I'll talk about smoking weed,

I'll talk about my sex life, I'll talk about it, and I'm just sitting on the sidelines like, God, I can't, I'm just gonna sift this one out and let you do your thing, and then I'll pick it up when you're finished. Yeah, maybe you and Oli Lang

start a podcast together? Yeah. I would do it. Many things. I would do it. Many fences. I would do it. What is it like though living in the area because you live in Missouri and the Kansas City Chiefs, like it's crazy the run they've been on.

They are the new Patriots. Do you just see it everywhere where people are starting maybe, stick their chest out a little bit more and it's, you know. Well, this side of the state has completely adopted the Chiefs. Yeah. Which I did not expect, when I used to do, when I was at Fox and they would do these regional, you know, you do a regional game on Sunday and it's like,

well, you know, St. Louis obviously cares about Kansas City. So we'll send that game. This was obviously pre Mahomes and all that. And I was like, you know, yeah, we're in the same state, but I don't know. I don't think Kansas City really cares about what's going on over here, but it is a thing. I mean, it's everywhere in St. Louis. They have a legitimate fan base of fans who said, okay, the Rams left. We're now all going to the Chiefs. And the timing of it was such that they're fun to watch and easy to root for. They're fun to watch. And we've had the debate of whether or not they're easy to root for.

I still think they kind of are because every time you watch Mahomes, he does something that makes you shake your head and say, holy shit, I've never seen a quarterback do that. How is this possible? But I feel like there is a growing fatigue with the Kansas City chiefs. Have you felt that? Well, I mean, I think some of that's natural, but I'm with you. I'm amazed at Patrick Mahomes. He's a legitimate good guy that I think has a really big heart. When you talk to their PR folks,

they're like, you should see what this guy does when nobody's looking, when cameras aren't there. He's not, yeah, everybody does the photo op at the hospital, but he does stuff that nobody has any idea about just because he's a good guy. So I, in sports, it's, I think you find the good people and they're easy to root for. And I think he and Travis are really good guys.

I mean, it's, it can be overload cause they're on every commercial, you know, you stop action and you go to commercials and it's Travis and it's Patrick and it's Andy Reed but that comes with success in today's world. I would rather celebrate them than fight it all. It's really unfair that he's that good of a guy. It's kind of like Steph Curry where it's like you try to try to nitpick and there's really the only thing you can say is like maybe he complains a little bit to the refs, but like he's also just gamesmanship. That's also gamesmanship. So it's like there's

it's it really it really sucks. He's so good. And I wish there was one thing that he did wrong. I could be like, huh, I knew it. I he's not a good guy, but he's a great guy. He I mean, and he showed during I think a couple times during this season alone, how good of a teammate he is when guys were dropping passes downfield and Tony lined up offside and I mean he took and now he got pissed at that game and then apologized for it But prior to that with drop after drop he kept putting the

Blame on himself and and I just I don't know I don't see that everywhere. So again, I mean he's an easy guy to root for Yeah, so we're talking about comparing him with Tom Brady and I don't know, I don't see that everywhere. So again, I mean, he's an easy guy to root for. Yeah. So we were talking about comparing him with Tom Brady and through the first few years of their careers, Mahomes is definitely like on pace with Tom Brady. Obviously Tom Brady, you could break it into three separate Hall of Fame careers that he had and the longevity was incredible.

But I think he went, what, 10 years between his third and fourth Super Bowl. So Mahomes is like, he's right on track, if not a little bit ahead of the Tom Brady route. Do you see is that a fair comparison? Are we being fair by mentioning them in the same breath? I mean, I think so. I think you can you can project forward as long as they can keep some of that core together. But if Kelsey walks away, it seems like his brother's ready to hang it up.

And who knows? I mean, if it's another year, another two years, at some point, that's going to change. I think the brilliance of Tom Brady was showing year after year that he could do it with whatever cast of teammates he was given. I mean, yes, he had Belichick. He had a really good defense, but it was always evolving and he never had a true number one receiver in their prime who was just shredding defenses. It's the most impressive thing to me about Tom Brady. I mean, Gronk was amazing,

but he seemed to be able to shift and change to what he had around him. And those slot guys, that whole, you know, transition from I guess it would be Welker was first up and, you know, Amandola fit in there and obviously Edelman, but he just, I don't know, he seemed to do the most with the least that I've seen in any sport I've covered. It sounds like you still have a grudge against Randy Moss. Well, I mean, he was at the end.

I have no grudge against that. It sounds like you and Randy still not on. It was a disgusting act. It was. It's not disgusting. I saw that you wished that you could have taken that back. I wish you would stick to it, though. Yeah.

I wish you would still be offended. Double down. Be like, yeah, it was disgusting. It was a porn. I stopped watching football. Yeah. I did games my eyes stopped watching football. Yeah. I did games with my eyes closed after that.

True, yeah. That would go a long way in helping me navigate the world around me. Yeah. Have you had more? Yeah, I mean, I'd listen to it. I'm like, you know, I don't know why it hit me that way that night.

And then I think when I hear it now, I don't even know what year that was. Like, 04, 03, somewhere in there. It's like, oh, I don't even know what year that was like 04 03 somewhere in there. It's like, well, I don't think my mind would even go there. You might know why you might have had baseball brain at the time, because you don't see stuff like that happen in baseball. If you do, you wear a fastball in the ribs next time you're up. But if it's in football, you might still be in that mindset where it's like, Whoa, this is un-gentlemen. This is unbecoming of America's pastime.

Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Young dad at the time, I don't know what it is. And then I've said a hundred times since then. My wife was obviously at ESPN before me and of all the people on the Monday night crew, when he was a part of the Monday night crew, nobody was better to her. And then when I would go see her on a Monday night,

Randy would be the guy that would hop up and come down off the set and give me a big hug. And I mean, there's like zero remnants from that in Randy's mind. And, you know, I don't think he cared then to be honest. He sure as hell doesn't care now. Yeah, it's weird. It's something fans just stick with.

Have you had moments like whether it be calling the Cubs win The World Series or the Patriots coming back from 23 or Brooks Kepke winning the US Open You know your iconic calls where you're like, all right, this finally will bury the Randy Moss thing No, I don't that's That is nothing that I think about ever and unless I'm asked about it on a podcast Yeah, I would think the US Open call would at least have gotten people to forget it iconic Nothing that I think about ever. And unless I'm asked about it on a podcast. I would think the US Open Call would at least have gotten people to forget it.

Iconic. The Kepke girlfriend thing? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, let's have that replace the Moss one. And then I'll just go to my grave with those two. You might be hitting your prime right now. When do broadcasters hit their prime? Oh, yeah.

I think you are. I don't are. I think you're in your prime. Yeah, I think when the give a shitter kind of gets pushed down a little bit and you can be a little bit more yourself and you feel like you don't have to prove yourself every time you do a game and I don't even know if that ever leaves you, but yeah, I think you probably get better when you get into your 50s than you were and then I was back in my 30s probably. I think you're in your prime.

The other thing with you, and we've said this to you before, but the thing that comes across in the broadcast is that you and Troy are real friends. And I think that's, when it comes to like what you wanna watch, you wanna watch the chemistry between two people people so you were able to go and that Lions Cowboys game uh Jimmy Johnson gets into the ring of honor were you able to like hang out with Troy and all the guys that weekend because that what was that like it must have been incredible to see all these guys from the Cowboys all together I know you've met all of them but all of of them in one place. Yeah, no, it's a good question. And to see Troy walk into that group in a

luxury suite or in the back room at that stadium, I don't know, I weirdly took a lot of pride in that. I was happy for him because I know that he was a big reason why all that came to pass. Jimmy Johnson is kind of a father figure to Troy. And I know it was because it was important to Jimmy, it was important to Troy to try to bridge that gap, whatever gap still existed between Jerry and Jimmy. And, you know, it was certainly not only Troy, but Charlotte was a big part of it and Jerry, I think, really came across the midline there and made sure, even with the stuff he said in the stadium that night at halftime, I thought it was just a great couple of days for all of us and for Troy to experience that. I was, yeah, I mean, that is part of the true friendship that I was just kind of standing back watching him interact and to see the hugs and the real respect that really

a room full of Hall of Famers have for him, you know, makes me feel good. Yeah. Do you know what the deeper story behind that was? I know there were power struggles because you got two big personalities that are both, you know, they want a lot of credit for building those incredible Dallas Cowboys teams. But it feels like the hatchet could have been buried, I don't know, 15, 20 years ago. Were the things going on behind the scenes where they were still kind of like at each other's throat? Or is this just completely remnants of how it ended?

I think it was more remnants. And then the frustrating thing to everybody who and I think the world of Jerry too, who really appreciate and love and respect those two guys is every time over years when you would see them together, it was like, wait, what's the problem here? Because they were like brothers when they were together for whatever it was 1520 years, even when all that stuff was going on or some of that was still hanging, you know, over the situation, you'd see them together. And we had them on the set at a Hall of Fame game in Canton. We had seen them together in the Hall of Fame. Jerry would come to Fox events. Jimmy would. It's like my what's the problem here? Because they were so good when they were together and thankfully whatever those issues were,

and I don't profess to know all of them. They just, they finally just flushed it and got together and Jimmy deserves to be in there and he is. Yeah. What, what was your favorite game this year that you called? You had an incredible run where I think it was like maybe six or seven of the last games that you did the underdog won outright.

It was like awesome to watch. It felt like every Monday night it was the underdog was winning outright. What was your favorite game though? Yeah, I mean all of them kind of have their own little personality after you get finished with them. But one of the most fun games we did all year was the Tommy Cutlet's game. Which I would never think going in. It's like, Hey, are we going to flex out of this? And, and then, you know, DeVito,

just the rise of Tommy DeVito, and he played really well. And the Packers were came into that game on our nice run, and then they lose to the Giants and the agent and the family and the seats were so much fun Going on around a really compelling game that yeah, you could say Philly at Kansas City was really good and the playoff games were fun and even the the week 18 game that we had I mean on and on and on but The ones that have fun and personality and something you don't expect are the ones that stand out in my mind. The rest of them kind of blend together.

What year do you think you'll be asked to be in the Tommy DeVito documentary? Hmm. Because you will have to be in it. I will decline. I would say probably five years from now. We might be producing it. It could be. I'm going to develop it. You can't decline. We might be producing it. It could be. I'm going to develop it.

You can't decline. We're going to ask you. I'm going to ask myself the questions and talk about what was going through my mind when we showed the agent in the stands and Tommy on the field doing it. Yeah. You might actually just be next year.

Yeah. The way that things are going out, you just fast forward to nostalgia. It takes like one year, and then you're like, oh yeah, let's go rehash that. It's so true. Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's enough production companies that are looking for content. So if there's some place that will air it, it'll get made. You found it right here. I love it. So you're no stranger to controversy, Joe. And the other week you... I am so controversial. You were wearing a very controversial piece of clothing up in the booth.

It was the ESPN Monday Night Football Jacket. That one. So some people thought it was an awesome, it was kind of like the dress. What color is it? Some people thought it was a great jacket. Some people thought that it's stunk. So I'm curious to know when you put it on,

did you feel good or were you like, oh man, I can't believe I have to wear this? I felt good. It felt a little too puffy for my taste. It felt a little too roomy. I feel like a coat to keep you warm should be more snug. But other than that, I don't know. Was it, some people hated it?

Yeah, some people loved it, some people hated it. Yeah, it heard everybody did love it. Yeah, it was kind of mixed. What would people care about? It's a bit kind of amazing. Well, you were on screen for about like 30 seconds. Yeah, and people like I can't believe is wearing this thing. Joe did Joe's credit after we roasted Greg Olson's jacket. Joe did send me a picture of the jacket he's wearing the next game. So it's good to know that we're inside that huge head of his. Yeah, you are. Because my jacket that week was almost a reverse of what Greg wore that week. So mine was gray with like kind of white stripes and his was like dark with light stripes or

something that stood out a little bit, let's say, on camera. The internet's so mean. stripes and his was like dark with light stripes or something. Yeah. Stood out a little bit, let's say, on camera. The internet's so mean. Like, just thinking about it from your perspective, you just go, you're just wearing what you're supposed to wear. Oh my god. And everyone's like, this guy's a fucking clown. And when I say the internet, obviously, we're the mean part.

Like, we're part of this. Right. We're the ring leaders. But I somehow became a clown because I was wearing that jacket people thought it was too I mean you said yourself some people thought it was too puffy too puff it looked like that AI image of the Pope where he was doing a rap battle yeah you need oh I miss that one too I I really got to get on the internet no you know I mean like when I say things like that out loud I realize

what a waste of time I spend sometimes online. No, I haven't seen the computer-generated image of Pope looking like eight miles. Yeah, having this conversation just in general, where it's like Joe is just wearing whatever's in his closet, and then it's like occupying. It's a reverse, what I just said, because it occupies so much brain space for us.

We're the ones that need to touch grass. You guys span the flames. Like with the playoff Lenny or playoff Damien or whatever that was in the Super Bowl and I sent you this screenshot of the little blurb in the Kansas City newspaper like hey asshole play off David make this up this was a thing in Kansas City so shut. What do we have for for playoff player this year? Is it playoff juice playoff juice check? Yeah, you had that nice catch yesterday. He did runs. Yeah Playoff mark has playoff Pacheco is pretty cool. I have Pacheco works. Yeah, it's got a nice alliteration

Yeah, I think it's got to be a running back if you're doing if you're doing a Super Bowl What's the broadcast starts How much of it is different from calling a normal big game as Opposed to this massive cultural event that is the Super Bowl or do you keep it exactly the same? I mean, I could say that you try to keep it exactly the same, but there's just no way It's you feel it you feel a little bit of the pressure, and you feel you have to put that out of your mind. But I mean, you know that roughly 100 million people are on the other side of that. I am smart enough to know that of the 100

million people, about one 1 millionth care about what we're actually saying on the broadcast. And there's a large part of the audience just waiting for the commercials to start. So I understand all that, but yeah, it's like you go all year and then you only get judged kind of on how the Super Bowl goes the years that you have it. And it can be intimidating if you let it in. So that's why last year, Kevin and Greg did a fantastic job. There's a small group of people who know what that's like when the red light goes on and you're talking to 100 plus million people.

And I was proud of those two guys, not that they care, but I was and I know it's just not easy. So they did great and you try to keep it normal, but it's impossible. It's scary, yeah. So we've had the joy of calling a couple of games here at Barstool. I don't think we're gonna be doing any more, but at what point in journalism school

do they teach you that you shouldn't yell at the players about your bets and that they should shoot the ball more? Day one. Oh, really? Day one, I got criticized for that. I guess that's a no-no? Well, yeah. It's not good to bring your betting interest

into actual play-by-play. I'm weird. If you can, next time, when that time comes, I would say just leave that before you put the headset on. Just don't let your mind go there. I just wanted him to shoot. That's all. And he was right there. He was like five feet from me. This wasn't this was not like a

criticism from the listeners. No people. This was a criticism from the actual player. No from the media the media the rest of the media jumped on me and they were like this is disgusting. How could they do this? It was a word again. Yeah it. Yeah, it was the first game in the college basketball season and it was a game, it was a 20 point blowout and yeah, I might've been yelling for the guy to shoot with like a minute left. But isn't that why you're there? Yes, exactly.

And there's a 10,000 college basketball games in a year. Yeah, that's this kind of stuff that frustrates me when it's like, come on, you wanna, they wanna put everybody in the same box and there's room for that stuff. So I disagree with that. I, you know, just enjoy it, do it your way and don't read whatever some media critic says about it.

I would say especially in college basketball. Yeah. With how many games there are. If we're calling a big game, I'd understand it. People don't want to hear that, but it's like it was the first game of the season. Yeah. they who was go ahead? It was Loyola versus Arizona State. No Florida I will against heavy you Mississippi State ASU and it was a ASU player

And it was like a 20 point blowout and we were just screaming shoot shoot shoot Yeah, but again if you're tuning in, you know, that's kind of what you're gonna get so who cares Okay, it looks like journalism schools a waste, shoot. Yeah, but again, if you're tuning in, you know that's kind of what you're going to get. So who cares? OK, it looks like journalism school is a waste of money. Yeah. Do they have rules against you betting on the games at ESPN? I have no idea. I don't want to test it. I don't want to find out.

So it's easy to avoid all that. I don't, you know, I play fantasy football. Does that count? Is that betting? I mean, there's some sort of cash prize at the end if you win, which I did like six years ago one time. So I don't know. You know what I'll do? Because you are a good friend. Look it up. Look it up for me. Every Monday night, next year, I'm going to text you what I bet so that you can feel like you're rooting for me. Well, that's another thing that drives me crazy. People ask me the time like hey, I know you're doing this game. Who do you like and my answer every time is? Lose your own money. I don't want it in my head

When I'm watching it. I've been screwed up beyond belief when my daughter Trudy who's a an avid Fantasy football player will go it comes down to your game and I've got, you know, whoever, I've got Patrick Mahomes if he has X number one. And so the entire game, I'm thinking about Trudy's fantasy football team instead of what my actual job is. So that's the kind of stuff that gets in your head that screws you up. Okay, so I want that. I want you to be thinking about my bet. Yeah, I'll block it. So wait, when you went, when you won your fantasy football league a couple of years ago, were you calling games that then impacted your scores? Yeah, at some point during the course of the year. I forget. I think Russell Wilson was my quarterback The year I won

So yeah, for sure. We did a million Seahawks. Did you find yourself getting like a little extra excited when he'd score? million Seahawks. Did you find yourself getting a little extra excited when he'd score? No, it's funny. It's kind of back in that same category of the whole baseball, who are you rooting for and doing a cardinal game and, oh, I'm sure you went to bed and you're cardinal PJs the night before and you got up. For some reason, it's easy to put that stuff out of your head.

But if there was a down moment, I would definitely check the score because I don't know how the scoring in that, in any league I've ever been in works. So I will check it every once in a while, like, hey, is that enough? And yeah, but it doesn't really screw me up. Yeah. All right. So, Joe, thank you so much. I have one last question, Roback question. RHOBACK.com

used promo code take 20% off your first purchase, QZips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com. So a question and a statement first. Joe has been nice enough to we can only afford him for 90 seconds of our baseball video. So we paid him for 90 seconds. We didn't actually pay him, but 90 seconds. And so he will be starting the announcement of our baseball video. We can't thank you enough because we really do appreciate you doing that. Even 90 seconds felt like too much to ask. So thank you for doing that.

It felt good to put the baseball stuff back in my head. And then my last question is how many Emmys you got behind you there? I don't know. Because we know, I mean you put it there for a reason. Six Emmys. Are those actually yours? No wait, hold on. I'm actually starting to think that we, so we have a, no. There's a couple tucked away back there. We have a case that we bought a bunch of fake Emmys. You had your coffee back there. Yeah, well we bought some fake Emmys. I think we got to put it back there. Yeah, we will we bought some fake Emmys I think we got to put it over here. Yeah, we want people to see it We want people to see our fake Emmys and be like damn these guys are so yeah, I mean these are fake

They don't give you the real trophy. No, they do. Yeah, those are real those are and you wanted people to bring it up So we brought it up. You actually I appreciate that. I mean, yeah, you got to put them somewhere I'm not I'm not I'm not ashamed of them. So I'm happy that I won and You know, you should be ashamed of them. We should try to figure out a way to make them ashamed Where are they for something is that what are those? Oh, yeah, that's our that's our trophy case We just have the camera flip see that look at all those Emmys and a Lombardi. I can't yeah It doesn't mean I see a guitar. Yeah, and then wasn't great. We can't. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's not really got a great... I see a guitar. Yeah, and then... It wasn't great. We're gonna fix that up. We're gonna put it behind us.

Okay, yeah. Yeah. Joe, I got one last thing. So I did read earlier that you have tried to reach out to Tom Brady through intermediaries to have him maybe do some practice. No, that's not true. Is that not true? Is that fake? Did I get fake news? No, we have a mutual friend who said that he had talked to Tom and maybe Tom would be reaching out to me. I would never impose my expertise or my faux expertise on somebody else. If he wanted, I would absolutely help anybody that asked me for help, but I would never presume that somebody like Tom or anybody would want it. Well, he does listen to this program if Julian Edelman's driving him around.

So if you have one piece of advice to give Tom Brady about how to start, how to get into the broadcasting gig, what would you tell him? Hmm, are we being real right now? Yeah, be real as real as you want to get real real as those Emmys I Mean, I think Thank you for that. I got you push Yeah, I just think he's I think the best thing about Tony Romo When he started was he didn't come into this business trying to sound like anybody

else. You can argue all the other subjective stuff you want, but he did it in a different way. And if I'm telling Tom Brady anything, which hopefully this gets picked up by awful announcing, so let's make a clean break here if I'm telling Tom Brady I Would just say be yourself. I don't get into this trying to sound like what you've heard Over the years don't get into this trying to sound like whoever's helping you You are a seven times Super Bowl winner and the greatest to ever do what you do You know the game don't over prepare and see what you see

and react with your gut on what you see. I think so many times people like that, they overdo it to the point where they're just paralyzed by so much information that kind of a nice, I don't wanna say relaxed, but a wide open mind just to see something and react to it will be much more compelling Than any bit of research that he could have done that he's trying to bring into the game. So don't prepare advice Yeah, don't prepare at all. It's like us smart. No, it's smart

Watch your film like what I loved about working with Smoltz was He prepared as if he was gonna pitch against each lineup. And I appreciated that because I could talk to him about what certain hitters are looking for and how he thinks a pitcher should get that hitter out. And if the same should be true for Tom, he should approach the game in my opinion, like he's trying to play quarterback against each team, and watch film like he's trying to play quarterback against each team and watch film like he did all those years. That's the preparation I think you should do more than

reading stats and stuff like that. I don't think that that's interesting from him. Yeah, I like that. That's good advice. Yeah, if you're a quarterback, how would you attack this defense? And that's how he learns about the game of of football Yeah, that's how he sees it and absorbs it and when a defense is aligned in a certain way If the linebacker comes down to the safety's down near the line of scrimmage. What do you as Tom Brady? Where are you looking to throw the ball or you know, who do you like among the receivers? Or do you like the tight end better just by watching the film which is what he's always done his entire life? I I would say don't change much just fit what you see into between plays and have fun. Yeah. And if somebody gives you a giant puffy jacket just get one of your guys to deflate

it real quick in the back room. It was probably over pumped. Over pumped. All right. Well Joe thank as always. Appreciate your help with the baseball video, and you are one of our very special guests. We can't thank you enough. That's true. That is a fact. We're not, you know, being sarcastic like we usually are. You do mean a lot to the show.

Well, back at you. You have, you've made me come off younger than I typically would and get me in front of eyes and ears that have a preconceived notion and they then realize that I'm not who they thought I was. You're in your prime. Yeah, you're in your prime.

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We wanna talk about everything. Absolutely. We'll talk a little bit about your career. But let's start with the Super Bowl because we know who's in it. You've obviously been covering the league this year and you know these two teams. Your first knee jerk reaction when you saw that it's going

to be Chiefs vs 49ers, how you think this game is going to go? Yeah, I immediately, what won, thanks for having me. I'm fired up to be here. And respect what you guys do. So this is cool for me. But also we got to get to Doug Morone and the fried bologna sandwich at some point So don't let me forget that Let's see

Niners chiefs rematch that was the Miami Super Bowl of the 19 season 20 Super Bowl, I think so that was my son's first Super Bowl that he went to. And me, she wasn't my fiance at the time, she was my girlfriend, but the three of us went and that was like one of the first Super Bowls I went to and actually stayed for the game.

Usually you just go and whatever, right? You just go do your marketing stuff, go to a party or two and bounce out of there and watch it at home. So this rematch when I told my son who's now seven, his first memory of it was, oh, you let me eat that candy and my tongue was blue for like three hours.

So that's all he remembers, which is great. But from that game, you just remember the 49ers handling business for three and a half quarters. And then Patrick Mahomes starts to cement his legacy in that game with that comeback in the fourth quarter. And then the last few years have been incredible for him. But because of my career and playing the game, like immediately when I see two teams,

I go, okay, what's the strategy? What do you do? I'm telling you, if I'm San Francisco, I'm in big personnel, two backs. So use check, McCaffrey, anytime McCaffrey needs a blow, get in, any of the other backs that they have and do just go three tight ends, big personnel, get in a phone booth and do get out, run it right at them. Yeah.

I mean, like try and rush it 40 times. I'm that that's really what I think the strategy should be. I don't think Casey matches up well with a downhill running attack. I think their strength is in the secondary, luxurious need, this kid, McDuffie. Dude, McDuffie does not get a lot of credit and he's a stuck-in-ear nickel and an all pro at nickel.

That's really hard to do. He is a he's a baller, man. Yeah, that's that's what they have. But I'm saying I'm running it downhill at Bolton at tranquil. There are two linebackers that are great players, ton of production, but they're undersized guys. They don't want to fit up on power and Lead with use check every down. Come on, man The it's it's basically what the Ravens didn't do like the Ravens just didn't that's what I thought was gonna be part of

The deal at least start there and then start to open things up with your play action with your naked It's everything that works off of the run game. I think the 49ers can exploit that. I think they have so much. Handed to McCaffrey, handed to Debo. I don't care who gets the ball. Handed to Uscheck, just dial up runs right at him, dude. And let your guys do what they do. The offensive line loves that too, by the way.

I like that, yeah. Every time they drop back to pass, it's like playing Red Rover. Remember playing Red Rover as a kid? Like you got to hold people's hands and people just kind of like run through. They don't want to do that every down. You don't want to throw it 40 times a game. Just go. Yeah.

Just pound it on them. Run the play where you send Trent Williams in motion and give him like a seven yard head start and just knock somebody's head off. That's what I wanna see. Yeah, I would like to see a big game from McCaffrey as well on the quarterback side there, you have to have a spicy take about Brock Purdy. It's a rule.

If you're in media, you have to have a spicy take. So do you think he is a top five quarterback or do you think he is the worst quarterback in the league? Those are the only two options. Then I'm going top five. Cause I mean, I saw something the other day that said, you know, he was leading the league in yards per 10 passing efficiency, maybe not touchdowns, but there were like six categories.

So it says this Super Bowl features a quarterback who leads all the league and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and Patrick Mahomes. So don't forget about what Brock Purdy did all year. And I'm telling you, those three scrambles he made in the second half, either Brian Greasy, the quarterback coach or Shanahan, somebody said something to him about, hey, don't be afraid to steal a couple first downs

with your legs. Bro, that was like, that turned the tide of the game. That kept them afloat. And at minimum, when you steal a first down with your legs, you get your guys three more downs, maybe four if you go for it, right? So a minimum of nine extra plays, or 12 on the high end, is what he got his team.

And how many times do you hear coordinators, critics, people saying, man, if they only had the ball one more time, if we only had one more drive, if we only had one more shot, dude, he got you three extra drives right there. Yeah. And that's not like a huge part of his game, but he's got a little juice to him, man. He's got a little, a little quickness and like a little giddy up that first 10-yard burst of his is legit man. He was running away from DB's from linebackers and then you know eventually they're gonna catch him. He's not Lamar but that was huge man. Yeah so speaking about Brock Purdy because I feel like maybe you can relate a little

bit where you were criticized a lot and you know a lot of hot takes about your career when you were winning like you were going to back to back AFC championship games. What does that do? Do you hear that or are you just like I don't care we're winning like people can say whatever they want because it is crazy that a guy is winning like Brock Purdy's winning yet there's still a debate every single day. I think part of the issue there is the high expectations, the mister irrelevant thing, like nobody wants to give them his flowers, for accomplishing anything.

It's always, oh, thanks to Trent Williams, thanks to Debo Samuel, thanks to, well, what a great catch by IU. Well, somebody's gotta pull the trigger, man. Somebody's got to hike the ball. Somebody's got to handle all these checks. We've called a couple of games for him, and so I'm trying to make this relatable to other people,

but he goes to the line almost every snap with at least two different plays, sometimes three, and is constantly playing these mental gymnastic games, every down. Good play, bad play, based on the pressure, based on the look, based on the front, okay, who's here, who's there, what's our best play, let's get out of trouble, what's my, you know, fallback plan, what's my contingency plan. It was funny because we have these production meetings when we call games for these teams

and you get to sit down with players and coaches and all that. And I said, so when you don't go to the line with the line, to the line of scrimmage with multiple plays, it's usually called like a call it and run it. Like I don't care what the difference does, just go up to the ball, hike the ball and let the play go.

I said, when's the last time you went to the line of scrimmage with a call it, run it? And he just looked at me and laughed. He goes, God, I can't even remember. So I'm telling you, this guy's going through so much pre snap and getting them in the right play. All the motions and shifts and everything that they do. Dude, that stuff for a quarterback, that's exhausting.

Like as a play caller, you have these wide receiver screens and call it run at plays and catch all tight plays. And wouldn't you get those as a quarterback for real? Cause after the game, you're like, you're spent, dude. Your brain's kind of melted. And you just take a deep breath, but you need those breather plays. Just the automatic handoffs, the quick little extended handoffs, extension of the run game

to just dump the ball outside and let everybody else do the work and take a breath and then look to the sideline. OK, here we go again. And I couldn't be more impressed man with how he's handled it. And I mean, the guy's like, he goes home for biweek and you know, he's riding around on a tractor like doing stuff on his farm like, come on, man. Yeah, he seems like one of the coolest normal students in the world. And for some reason, you know, he's like one of the coolest normal students in the world and

For some reason, you know, he's he doesn't get enough love Yeah, yeah, it's great if there's one quarterback that I think could ignore social media and ignore what people are saying in the media It's probably Brock Purdy. I imagine he might get a newspaper delivered to his apartment like once a week And he just doesn't pick up and it's like the local newspaper like yeah Yeah, he goes in there for like the for like the tractor classified ads Maybe you can pick up like a new John Deere or something But I think he is like pretty successful at tuning that out when you were playing it was probably impossible in New York Given the level of media scrutiny there We we used to have a guy on the show Billy football and his theory was that the New York media is what absolutely?

Dooms every New York Jets quarterback. Why is it different for the Jets? Why do they why do they attack the Jets? Not so much the Giants? Um, I think the Giants have have they do a really good job at keeping things insulated. I think at times the Jets like their success has been kind of up and down. And the Giants just seem to have been like a steady organization, a little less bravado, a little less loud.

You know, when it happens for the Jets, it is like the biggest thing in the world. You know, almost like a firework, right? Like it's big, it's bright, it's beautiful, and then it just kind of dies out on you. Where the giants have seemed to be steady and they seem to be kind of above that whole media deal and there's not as many, you know,

the little gossipy stories and stuff like that, they seem to avoid those a little better. And I don't know what that is. There's different approaches to that, but I think for any organization, especially in a huge market like that, the most important thing is winning football games. Yeah, you know, there's no need to

to try and win the popularity contest. Just win football games and people will talk about your team. Yeah, like if you can just do that and it's it makes it much tougher. I mean, I've seen my favorite thing to look at at times is like the blind quarterback stats. Like you don't know who the quarterback is and they just give you the stats. And you're like, wow, that's not a bad year. And I saw something about, it was Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones like side to side. And their numbers were almost identical. But Trevor Lawrence is being celebrated as like,

wow, what a player, incredible career so far. This is exactly the trajectory. You had a tough first year, but so did the paint manning. So did Andrew Luck, this guy's on the right trajectory. Dude, his numbers are almost identical to Daniel Jones and that dude just gets hammered by the media. Yeah. And you're like, what are we doing here?

You know, so it comes with the territory, it's just, you know what it is? It's superlative and sensationalized. You know what I mean? Like best, worst, that's it. There's no, hey, they had a pretty good year. It doesn't exist there. It just doesn't.

If you're eight and eight, you're just terrible. You're garbage, you know? And you barely miss the playoffs. It's true. So, and then when you do make the playoffs, it's Superbowl or bust and if you don't, oh man, they got same old jets. And so it's a hack of a thing to deal with,

but it teaches you a lot. It teaches you a lot about yourself, teaches you a lot about the people around you. I learned a lot about the business side of the NFL and how everything works media-wise. And I'm probably better for it because now as I've transitioned into the TV stuff, I think it's really helped me.

I can understand why the media is the way it is. The questions they used to ask me for the sound bite, for the, you know, the sexy, juicy clip of, you know, a silly question. You give the answer, and boom, you cut that out. And now you sound like a jerk. Or now you sound like you're arrogant. Or now you sound like you're completely defeated

and you have no confidence. Listen to the whole interview. Yeah, no, it's really too bad. It's a good point. And off that point, we had this debate with your former teammate Bart Scott. He doesn't understand why the butt fumble is funny. Do you think that the butt fumble gets as much play if it's not the Jets? Like do you think that part of it?

No way. Yeah. Do you know why it's funny? Do you understand why it's funny? I should have started with that. Well, I mean, it's a. You ran into his butt. You ran into his butt. Yeah. And you found you run into your own player. So it is. But his.

But yeah, you ran into his. Bart Bart struggled this to him. He said the same thing you did, which is like you ran into your own guy. But the key of the play is that it was an ass. It was a but. That's what made it funny. I'm starting to slide. Right.

Because the play is doomed from the start. It's a bad play. We, it's a fake dive pitch. Basically like what people do with fly sweep now where they fake the fly sweep motion. We're right behind the quarterback, fake the handoff and toss. It's like a toss, crack kind of play. Well, we're going the wrong way. So I turn around and nobody's there.

And I'm like, whoa, what the hell? Okay, just get back to line of scrimmage, like whatever. Well, I start to go back to the line of scrimmage and try to slide. And, you know, the rest is history, but Vince Wilfork and Brandon Moore are going up against each other and I'm trying to get around him and boom,

like I get hit, I run into him, whatever. Collinsworth on the call is like, Vince Wilfork just pushed it off into the line and right back into the quarterback. And so I wasn't expecting to get hit. I was just trying to slide, get back to the line of the line scrimmage next play move on with your life well I got hit the ball goes flying next thing I know they scored and I was just like what the hell happened well okay we move on to the next play and they were beating us anyway the Patriots but the real the real issue not issue but the the

The real issue, not issue, but the, I think the reason why it's gotten so much publicity or whatever is like Twitter and hashtags were like just starting to take off. It's Thanksgiving, everybody's home watching TV, Jets Patriots, the biggest thing on TV, huge rivalry, and that happens. And then after that, it just exploded. And I mean, I've been on calls, like talking about games, and I've seen like running backs and other players running the guy. the ball. Yeah. Yes. That's like I just kind of it's like a throwaway line and whatever. But I mean what are you

going to do. It was a big audience. I think it was the first game the first Thanksgiving primetime game that was on a network as opposed to like NFL. Yeah. As opposed to the you know. Oh dude it was it was huge. I mean there were so many eyeballs on it that it took on a life of its own and whatever what are you gonna do yeah it was funny because it was this but it was his butt too yeah that's the funny part I just want you to know that like we obviously it happens sometimes you you know and it was a great play by Vince Wohlford like the dude your office lineman he was he was like a pro bowler and he's a big guy dude Brandon Moore is like the most underappreciated guy in the NFL like he's an absolute stud and I felt so bad that it was him, you know?

Like if it was Mangold, him and I could have like jokes about it, but like Beemore was just so upset. You know, I just, my heart breaks for him more than me. I don't, whatever dude, water off the ducks back. Like just move on next play, like go ball, like who cares? But I just felt bad with him. All right, we'll move on next play. Going back like who cares. But I just felt bad with him. Yeah, we'll move on next play.

Going back to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, if you're the Chiefs, how do you attack the 49ers defense? Much like you were saying, okay, just run the ball at the Chiefs. If you're calling plays, if you're Andy Reed, what do you look to exploit? Yeah, I think you're gonna get a ton of four man rush, seven guys in coverage.

I think you find a way the chiefs or the Niners are, I think in a way are really missing Talanoa Huifanga, one of their safes who went down with a knee injury. I think the Lions exploited it in the first half last week, but I mean, they're gonna, they run the same, you know, you watch the Chiefs offense, they run like almost 30 of the same plays every game. It is a West Coast offensive clinic.

They'll run shallow cross, they'll run drive, they'll run double posts, they'll run four verticals, all different ways, they have little wrinkles off it, they do it off a different personnel, they use motion, they try and hide guys in the backfield, release them out of the backfield, but it's a lot of the same core concept plays. And Mahomes has just become a master at those plays,

understanding the space saving, the timing, where guys are at, how to beat these defenses in man or zone. And then the critical factor for him is the extension of these plays, man. When it turns into that street ball, like him running around, ball in one hand, feeling defenders resetting the pocket, exiting the pocket, then getting back in the pocket.

Nobody's done that. Nobody used to do that. That's like, what he's doing is just silly. He's making grown men who are incredible athletes look like clowns. And I don't know how he does it, man, because he it's one thing to move around. But once you start moving, you got to realize you got to like read a lot of guys get disoriented with okay Where is everybody where did everybody end up this guy like he's got this photographic memory and understands the final the final destination of all these targets and

You could tell they work these shrimp scramble drills in practice At nauseam, I'm sure because the way he knows where Kelsey is gonna be The way he knows where these other players are gonna be and he just runs up to line of screw And then almost like a no-look flick these those kind of plays I mean if I'm gonna 49ers defense you gotta force him to do that down after down after down. Make him run around as much as you can. And force those backyard type plays, those schoolyard type plays,

because over a long period of time, it's not sustainable. You can't do it every down. One, it's exhausting. Two, the coordinator, he's gonna have a heart attack five times that game because he never knows where the ball is. You know, the idea when you're calling offensive plays is you put together this plan, you go

to the line of scrimmage, you see the defense, and you have a pretty good idea, okay, ball's going here or here. When the ball goes other places, the coordinator's a little like, whoa, what was that? You know, you want to have an idea of what's going to happen. So as much as they can force them into those backyard plays and then just hope for a big one. Yeah, hope for a big one. I mean, and for the Niners, man, like you got this ensemble cast, a star-studded cast of defensive linemen.

Like, come on, man. Hargrave chase young Randy Gregory Both of them balled out last week, but it can't just be him right those guys got to get theirs this week Somebody's got to make the play somebody's got to get the sack fumble Somebody's got to do something to pressure that pocket Eric armstead. I mean those guys are Pro-bullars all pros I mean that's gonna be the key of the game for me because they don't pressure a lot of guys from the secondary They don't fire the nickel. They don't bring the corners. They don't bring the same. That's just not who they are

That's not Steve Wilkes. That's not the way the Steve Pence is built. So you've got to generate pressure with the front four and Those guys are gonna have they're gonna have their hands full because my homes is all over the place yeah all right dumb question time um oh dear how awesome was it to be a star quarterback at USC oh man um pretty awesome that was uh it was a heck of a run man I just felt like I fit in at the right time. Carson Palmer was my childhood idol, and he had gone to school there. They used to do training camp at UCI in Irvine,

University of California Irvine. So I'd go up to the practices here. It's only like 20 minutes from my house. I was his ball boy when he was in high school. So he was like this God to me, this football God and an idol of mine. And then Matt Leiner is coming up, and then, you know, Norm Chow and Pete Carroll and Ed Ogeron are in my living room,

telling me, I'm gonna be that. You know, that same guy I'm looking up to and this other guy, Matt Leiner, that came right out of Orange County right up the street like This is the trajectory you're on and it was just surreal but it's everything I had worked for it's everything I've ever wanted and You know we wear these gold jerseys at practice and coach Sarkeesian used to remind us You know like there's a gold jersey standard at school and that's with everything. Your school work, the way

you work out in the gym, all that kind of stuff and you know he was, he's like it's alright to have have a little bit of a good time with a gold jersey too. Yeah. There's a lot of people who appreciate that you're wearing that gold jersey, worked really hard for it so enjoy it too. too. And yeah, I can say that I did. Yeah, yeah. Is she gold jersey? Yeah, yeah, she's a gold jokey. Yeah, I mean, it's literally like,

when you think about it. The gold jersey standard. Yeah, yeah, I like it. In college football, being the quarterback of USC, that is, if you ask a million sports fans, what would you, if you could dream of being one thing, it'd be that. Like there's something about it.

I mean, yeah. The starting quarterback in college, it's everything you think. You just get in love from people all around, hey man, great game. They just want to be a part of something and to appreciate what you're doing. And you just got to do your best not to get too, you can't drink the Kool-Aid as well. Yeah. And it's a great place to go to school.

Yeah. I love it. I love it. We've had Carson on. We've had Matt on. I love it because we ask that question every time. And all three of you guys do the thing where you kind of look off and you're like yeah it was awesome like you like go in the

memory bank for a second and you're like yeah it was pretty fucking sweet so I'm happy you answered it the same way. Yeah yeah yeah so at USC you mentioned coach oh we love coach oh he's the best. I Still can't believe he was he was working at USC for a while like he doesn't scream Hollywood But when he was when he was recruiting now, what was he like? What was his sales pitch like? You're gonna come to SC you gonna be the quarterback Now we gonna win the Rose Bowl, you're gonna stand up on the ladder, hold the sword, and after the game, I'm gonna make you some gumbo.

And I was like, okay, it sounds good. I'm in. That's a pretty good coach. And I was gonna, my dad like, I'm like, what the hell was gumbo? And he's like, oh God. He was, he was such a great coach. My dad like, I'm like, what the hell was gumbo? And he's like, Oh, God, he was, he was such an intense coach, man. He, he didn't mess around. I mean, he would start every year

with just like, Hey, like, I'm going to coach you guys hard. If anybody's got a problem with it, just rip off his shirt. We can fight right now. Like, what's up dude? You know? Yeah. And you're just, whoa, I'm not fighting him. I love that. Okay.

Yeah, that's perfect. He's a monster man. He was exactly what we needed. Energy, juice. He'd come in with a big drum in meetings. They got a drum somehow from the band, like the big bass drum that you wear in front of you, you know, and he'd just come in there

and start banging on this thing. He'd start banging on the wall as we're coming out of the tunnel. And, you know, somebody would hit the beat that done, done, done, done, done, and he'd go, the champ is here. The champ is here. You know, and everybody was just juice, man. You were like jumping out of your skin

and guys are just headbutting each other. And it was a hell of a time, man. That was, those are some of my favorite memories. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, so another thing about your career you were I think you hold some records for playoff wins. I know that you're you and Ben are the only two guys who went to two AFC championships to start your career. What was it about you on the road? Like it was incredible. I mean it's hard to win playoff road games like the only

ones that we saw this year was Jordan Love one in Dallas then Mahomes is one too but no one else won any. So what was it about you and like going on the road like that you were able to accomplish that? I think that kind of matched the identity and personality of our team. We just seem to when everything was kind of stacked against us, there was this unification of everybody. Like we just kind of gelled together and we had this road dog mentality, us against the world. You know that kind of like the lines this year, just like Detroit against everybody, you know?

And Rex really instilled that in us. I felt like, you know, when we were in a home game with the Jets, if you're not winning constantly, like, you know, people are leaving in the fourth quarter, like it's not like this crazy home field advantage. You know, we're not playing, we're not the Pittsburgh Steelers, we're not the Seattle Seahawks. Like it's not, you know, the twelves are

just going nuts for us. It didn't really feel like that at home. And on the road, because of Rex's personality, because he wasn't afraid to talk to anybody and tell anybody anything, you just kind of had this chip on your shoulder and we became a nasty group on the road and those nights before the game in the hotel It was just kind of like understood almost as if everybody kind of made eye contact Knotted to each other like yeah, we know what we're gonna do. We're gonna go ruin this theme Sunday We we get to go on this stadium there. They think they're gonna lock us in the stadium for a couple hours and Whoop our ass for a little bit. No, no, no, no. We got another thing coming and they got another thing coming. We're going to go ruin their whole week. Everything they worked for for six days is worthless. Watch this. You know, we just kind

of had that, that juice, man, that mentality and it blows my mind that Mahomes's first couple road games came in his sixth year. I know yeah, that's crazy I was like damn dude and You know, it's it's in some ways a few years ago when Brady was Going on the road to win one of his first playoff games or tie It was like with the women this weekend Tom Brady ties Mark Sanchez for most road playoff wins Which was four at the time and And that was, you know, six years ago, whatever it was. But it was almost like a backhand and compliment. Like, yeah, thanks.

We didn't win our division, you know, my bad. Right. Right. But it was, I don't know, you got to, you got to lock into a certain type of mentality and own it. And, you know, those 53 guys and all the coaches with you like that, that's all you got. We're all we got and we're all we need, that kind of mentality. Yeah, I think it was, you guys had the ultimate fuck you mentality.

You can distill it down to like those two words, right? It was like, fuck you, we're the Jets. And it all came from your coach, from Rex Ryan. He seemed to be like the perfect guy to lead the fuck you, we're the jazz. And it all came from your coach from Rex Ryan. He seemed to be like, Oh, the perfect guy to lead the fuck you mentality because he was you know, he had been passed out for jobs before he was loud, he was abrasive. And he would just you know, give the fit get the finger to everybody he was you know, oh yeah, I got so he and you have a

very close bond. When you got drafted. He got a tattoo of his wife on his arm wearing your jersey. When that happened, were you like, that's, that's I guess cool, because he's probably not going to bench me if I'm on his wife's right. Yeah. No, I actually did get that one time. But I didn't hear about it until off season when he was on vacation. So he had, you know, he had no shirt on and was hanging out by the pool and somebody snapped a photo of it and then it showed up in the New York Post or whatever. But so, so I had no idea that that was the thing. Like that was a thing.

And so when I read about it, I was like, huh, Mickey's got a tattoo of me. So I didn't know exactly what it was until I really saw it. And so I was like, oh, okay, I mean, whatever. Got a jet's jersey. What other number is she going to put on it? Number one, like, I don't know. Yeah, it's true. I threw a six on there and I, I felt good about it.

Yeah. Until he went to Buffalo and then he had it colored in blue. Oh, I thought about that. He had it redone. Yeah. Who's number six on Buffalo? Oh, man. I don't know, but he needs to change that back.

E.J. Maynard. Yeah, he needs to change that back. What the hell? It is quite a story. I mean, you've been coached by some of the greats, Pete Carroll and like all-time character Ed O and Rex Ryan. Another iconic Mark Sanchez moment that we have to discuss is obviously eating the hot dog on the sideline. I love

that move so much. I love hot dogs. And the fact that it was in a blowout, like you you had to when you when that happened, you had to have thought like there's no way there's going to be a story and then all of a sudden you they had nothing to talk about it's 38 nothing. Yeah, it's like, well, I guess we're just going to show shots of Mark Sanchez eating a hot dog on the sideline. You know, and I was so upset that they did that at the time. Uh, but now calling games, like I've called the game that was three nothing with, uh, the Vikings and

the Raiders. So by the fourth quarter, it's three nothing, dude. There is like, I'm basically taking out my driver's license and like reading it off into the microphone. Like I got nothing left, right? Like you've wasted all your stories. You know, a guy makes a two yard run and you're like, did you know he was a junior high triple jump champion in Arizona? And you're like, oh my God,

it turns into a friends and family affair. Like there's nobody there. So I understand why now that I'm doing media, but at the time I was, I was a little upset. But the backstory going into that moment, we started off three and O, then we went on a three game skit, I'm pretty sure. And then we're going back to California. We're playing the Oakland Raiders. I got a huge section of people supporting me that came up from Southern California. And it was a big deal to play in front of my family and everything. And so I thought I understood the NFL at 3-0. And then we go 0-3. And I'm really second guessing a lot. And fast forward to that game. Dude, I could not eat before

the game. And I would never get like pregame sick. Like I know guys who would intentionally like go to the bathroom and like throw up on purpose, right? Just to get it out of the way. I just couldn't eat and I felt horrible and and I wasn't sick, but I was just, I'd never been paralyzed by my nerves before. Right. So I didn't eat. but I was just, I'd never been paralyzed by my nerves before. Right. So I didn't eat. And I felt like I had like nothing out there. And we're still winning the game.

I mean, we're up 38 nothing. We're waxing them. Oakland was terrible. And I remember in the third or fourth quarter, whenever it was, there's those guys in the white shirts and blue shorts. And I just said, yo, do you guys have any food? You got anything like a bar or whatever?

He goes, I can run up to concessions for you. I said, are you serious? I was like, what do they got? He's like burgers, dogs, whatever you want. Like nachos. I'm like, I'm not going to eat nachos on the sideline. Uh, shoot, grab me a dog, man. Grab me some mustard. Like, thank you.

So he runs up to the deal, comes back down, and I waited for a timeout. So I'm not, you know, I don't wanna upstage anybody. Kellan Clemens, I think, had gone in the game at the time. So I'm paying attention to the game, but as soon as we had a timeout and we were on defense, I'm like, okay, this is probably a safe spot. And so I kinda hunched down, hit the mustard deal and I'm

like trying to do it all incognito. I'm just right there on the broadcast. I'm like, what the hell dude? I needed something and Rex, you know, Rex wasn't mad. He just he was like, you know, we can't, you know, it looks like you're, you know, big time in the other team. Like, don't you don't want that to be your persona. And so he gave me a hard time in the press conference, but he wasn't really mad. Yeah, nobody cared. You know, I think after that, we donated like a thousand hot dogs to a local like charity or food bank or something like that, just to try and like smooth it over. Because we felt I felt bad about it at the time. And now looking back, I'm like,

that was such a normal thing. So many guys eat, like I've eaten so much. I've eaten pizzas in college on the sidelines. Like I've eaten during games. Sometimes I just get hungry in, like, especially when you're not the starter, there's food in the equipment room at halftime. So the coaches do their deal, the coordinators do their deal.

Hey, here's the plan for the second half, blah, blah, blah. Right before you run back out, the guys who aren't playing, dude, I would run in there and grab like five chicken fingers all the time. Which is, mall them. And then run back out on the field, like I just need a little something. So, I don't know.

Yeah, I think my favorite part of that story was when you apologized for eating a hot dog to me that was the funniest part yeah sorry sorry for eating the hot dog it won't happen again yeah sorry guys I mean I'm so mad that I did I wish I could go back and take it back and start the whole glizzy thing and just be like sometimes you got it down a dog yeah no glissi is safe around me on a big glissi Oh, that would be great. Speaking of process meets, you mentioned Doug Marrone, our good friend dog. Love dog, big baloney guy, he brought in baloney sandwiches. What

is that? He just loves baloney. Yeah, and his boy Stephen Brown. So his boy Stephen Brown is now my very good friend, helps me out in the book. And Steve, he me, I told him I was coming on the show. And he goes, bro, you gotta see this clip. And apparently he brought you guys fried bologna sandwiches. Yep, yep, yep. That's all he needs.

It sounds so gross. It was good. It was good. I think he kind of like, incepted us because he's like, this is the best fried bologna you'll ever have. And I'm like, okay. And then I ate it.

I was like, yeah, you're right. This is the best fried, I'd never had fried bologna, but it was the best fried bologna you'll ever have. And I'm like, okay. And then I ate it. I was like, Yeah, you're right. This is the best fried. I never had fried bologna, but it was the best fried bologna. He overwhelmed us with sandwiches. Yeah, I think there were like 20 sandwiches, and they were all bologna. He's like, you guys are gonna love these aren't in a couple beers. Yeah, yeah, he did. He's a man. He's the best. He's a football guy through and through. Yeah, Mark, you're a member of a very elite fraternity. Maybe you can tell me what all these quarterbacks have in common. Rex Grossman, Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, you. I think

that's probably, that might be it. Hmm. I know Rex went to Super Bowl. You all played for these two teams. Oh Washington and Chicago yes you actually are like the part of my take quarterback because we have a Jets fan in the booth I'm bears

PFT's Washington and he also played for the Eagles. You kind of get all of our fan bases. And you got to balance around a little bit towards the end. Yeah. Yeah. So about that, like, you, you, it felt like towards the end of your career, people, everything I read was like, Mark Sanchez is a great guy to have in the locker room. And he's great at like, you know, I know that it sucks to be the backup quarterback, but there is a skill set to it What is that because I think a lot of people misunderstand it whether like if you're a really good starter

You'll automatically be a really good backup, but it doesn't work that way Yeah, it really doesn't and certain guys come in with You got to have the right mentality. There's a competitive side to it But there's also a respect side to it and a professionalism, I think. And not everybody's personality is suited to be the backup. I didn't think mine was going to be, but as soon as you walk in the building, like you enter your little code to get in the building, and it's like, I would remind myself by taking a breath and understanding it's not about me. It's about the starter.

How can I help them? I got to break down the clips, whether it's for Trevisky or Dak Prescott or whoever. I just felt like that was the right thing to do because that happened for me. So Kevin O'Connell, Mark Brunel and Kellen Clemens were all in our quarterback room with the Jets my first couple years. And they basically demonstrated what the proper quarterback room etiquette is. And you know, you want to play, man. You study every week. You watch all the same clips.

You just don't get the reps in practice, and you work scout team. So your job is servicing the defense, helping the defensive corner. I've gotten closer to more defensive coaches over my last four years because I would, you know, they show you these cards and they say, hey, throw it to this guy.

And I'm like, yeah, that's not how that play works. Can I explain something? You know, that's not how that play works. Can I explain something? You know, let me show you how this works. We run this play or I know this concept. This is kind of how they do it. The yardage is off or whatever. So when it becomes like a collaborative effort, I'm trying to help everybody. And then most importantly, like you're the, you're the pillow that the starting quarterback should be able to scream at or in. You know what I mean? When you just, ah, everything's going wrong.

You know, ah, that's you. That's your job. And I just felt like you have to accept that role and do everything you possibly can to help that guy, whether it's create new cut-ups, come up with a one-page sheet of notes. You know, that always helped me the last, the night before the game, the one page of notes

of the entire game plan, just quick little things. You know, making an empty clip and reminding Mitch Trebisky, hey, this is, you're gonna get one or two things when we get to empty. Don't forget that. You have your checks ready. You got your tool belt ready. You know what I mean? I don't know. I just felt like that was a, it was a different role. I didn't love the role,

but you got to respect the game. You got to respect the guys ahead of you. And you got to do everything you can to win and help everybody else. So it's almost like coaching in cleats in a sense but you get to run around a little bit in practice and stay in good shape and you hope the guy plays well. If something crazy goes down then you got to be ready to go. It was definitely a transition, not my favorite time but I learned to love it. Yeah, you're also part of a pretty weird quarterback room on the Jets when they signed

Tebow and they bring Tebow. I can't imagine that that was a productive work environment given the entire, the whole focus on Tebow Joint Training Camp. He's running shirtless in the rain. He looked good shirtless, by the way. When you saw him run you were like damn it was you know stuff like that was just it comes with everything that Tim is like he's he's a mega superstar and he has this huge following so you knew there was gonna be some of that in the building and you kind of sign up for that if you sign a player like that I think under any other circumstances, Tim and I would have been much closer because we do align on a lot of things.

Like he works really hard in the weight room. He works really hard at practice. He is a really good teammate. But when it's difficult in the quarterback room, because they're going to only be one, you have two, you have none yeah so it also sends messages to the team like okay we're signing this other really good player what is what's the role how how do we define these roles for these two players who's our guy who are we following and so it was um it made life difficult but I think I genuinely think under any other circumstances,

I mean, he's a hell of a dude. Yeah. He works his butt off, man. I've never seen anybody, you know, go at it that hard. I mean, he loved playing ball, man. That's all he wanted to do. But, and he was productive at other positions. You know, he played special teams. He played

Hide and you know, like I could never do that. So it was you know, you do your best with stuff like that and and You hope it it works out Him being on the team didn't lead to our success or failure, you know, that wasn't like The the one piece that decided the season. We weren't a good team when he showed up. I mean, I don't care who was playing quarterback, we just weren't a good team. We weren't nearly the team we had in my first two years. You know, so that's, you know, it's not like he showed up and the team sucks now. Not at all. So, yeah,

that quarterback room is tricky. You got to find the right mix of players. And if it is somebody who has been a starter, it's got to be somebody who can kind of take a step back, you know, check their ego, check everything at the door and service the main starter. Because the whole thing has to has to go through the eyes of the quarterback. Everything has to be seen through the eyes of the quarterback, in my opinion, if you want to have success. Yeah. So, Mark, this has been awesome. We appreciate you so much. Last question, Roeback question, rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase

Q's this Polo's hoodies joggers shorts. Go to roeback.com right now. Promo code take. Last question. Just give us last question just give us the winner give us the winner Super Bowl winner. Yeah. Oh dear. No Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl. Much higher stakes at the Pro Bowl. Um, jeez. We're too early. Okay. Early. All right. What are you leaning right now? First inclination need your reaction. I can't I can't bet against my homes anymore And I thought I thought Baltimore would handle them. I thought the bill the bills had them They had him on the ropes man, and and this dude just finds a way

To win so if I bet against the guy, I'm like, that's crazy. I'm doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. And that is insane. Yeah. Okay, that's like, you bet against the guy. That's fair analysis. Yeah, I'm insane. Yeah, I am insane. I'm going to stop Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it is fair. Fair analysis. I can do it. Yeah, everyone else has failed. You got me. I got it. I can do it. Yeah, everyone else has failed you got me I got I got I got the skill set. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much Mark We really appreciate it. This is great and we'll definitely have you back on next football season for sure. I

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I truly think that we have some of the funniest and most creative listeners facts and so they should have a platform. Yeah, so here it is. There were so many sent in. All right, great Well, we'll do it again Hey PMT One of my NFL takes that I stand by is that you should get a point for kicking it through the upright on a kickoff The accuracy from that distance is remarkable agreed Imagine being down nine and being able to tie the game with a touchdown, two point conversion and a kickoff point.

I love that. Would be electric and bring more value to the kickoff instead of all these boring fair catches and bounces out of the end zone nowadays. Frat Stafford. I like that a lot. Thank you, Frat. It's, what would that distance be on that kick?

It's from the 35, right? Really 75. So it'd be a 75 yard kickoff of T. I feel like most kickoff,'s from the 35, right? The 75. 75 yard kickoff of T. I feel like most kickoff, not necessarily kickers because sometimes punters do it. Most people that do kickoffs can at least get it out of the back of the end zone. I'm on board with this.

I like it. I think we should add something to it though. Because you're basically letting them get a free shot at a field goal. I think you should have to declare, or an extra point, you should have to declare that this is your intention and the entire kicking team can't move off the line and then if you can catch it in bounds, you can return it.

So they can't start tackling till they hit the line. Yeah, I like that. So you have the opportunity, if you can't start your pursuit until after it's caught, then they'll probably get it back up to like the 40. Yeah, I like that. So you have the opportunity, if you can't start your pursuit until after it's caught, then they'll probably get it back up to like the 40. Well, maybe even better. It's kind of be like Roman gladiators where it's like the entire receiving team

will then just run full speed at a stationary blockers. The giant wall. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, that would be cool. Because it also, I would imagine if you're trying to kick it out of the end, or kick it through the uprights,

90% of them will be out of the end zone so it wouldn't happen very often but I think you should at least give that chance for the return team or make it a doink if you have to doink it like that or maybe worth it if it goes if it goes out of the back of the end zone then it's the illegal procedure penalty yeah and you get the ball way up that might make more sense strategically wise than my idea but I do just like the idea of like catching a ball and having the entire receiving team Just stand there at the was it the 35 yeah

Yeah, I what about this what if you try to kick if you declare Okay, I'm trying to make the the field goal on this kickoff. If you miss it, then it's minus one point. I like that too. I like that too. Okay. Good thought starter. My take. Teams need to seriously consider firing their head coach after a successful season to retain their OC play caller. For example, in three years, I think we will look back at Ben Johnson and say he was the catalyst for that team's success over Dan Campbell. And you'll be crazy to say Dan Campbell was a better coach than Ben Johnson, even though it sounds crazy to say today. Other examples, McVeigh under Jake Gruden in 2016, Shanahan under Dan Quinn,

Steichen under Siriani, Asmax who'd rather just have a year removed. Yeah. Oh, he didn't always, he didn't go all the way back there. There were a lot, there were a lot of people that you could have brought up. You knew Bobby Sloick, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, Raheem Morris, all under Mike Shanahan. Chris Forester. Yeah.

Coke guy. Big Coke guy. But also Stripper guy. Well, those kind of go hand in hand. Wait, so, wait, this is the storyline that we missed. Chris Forrester off on the 49ers big coke guy big stripper guy. What do you think he's going to be doing Vegas. Not going into a sports book. Nope. Nope. Keep him clean. You told me specifically don't do coke and strippers in a sports book. Yeah.

Follow those rules. Okay. My take Taylor Swift makes an appearance at the Super Bowl. She's there to support Travis. However, she's also doing recon on the halftime show after seeing usher 10 years past his prime perform his show. Taylor thinks to herself, I can do that better. Taylor Swift 2025 halftime show plus 165. Oh, I don't hate that. She's been scared to do it in the past. I don't think so. I mean, she's getting all of the marketing and appeals of being involved with NFL already. True. Yeah. Do they pay now? Because I know for a while the NFL did not pay the halftime. They do not. They do not. Yeah. I saw a back. I would love to see

Taylor more exposed. I think it was 93. The broadcast was on CBS or NBC. And in Living Color, the sketch show did a live Super Bowl show during halftime. And that got a bunch of viewers that woke the NFL up. Next year, Michael Jackson was the halftime performer. So actually the real theory here is Osher does his halftime show. Mince does his halftime show. Mince does his halftime show.

The NFL realizes they can't compete. Mince plus infinity to do the halftime show next year. With Taylor Swift. With Taylor Swift. Yeah. Don't be wild. I asked Mince to do three songs, he said, nope, two. Oh, he's had this planned out.

His halftime show is over before the halftime show starts. The thing you have to understand about Mincey, he gets a vision and then he is locked onto that, like a dog with a bone. Right. He's just like, no, this is what's happening. Right, like wake up Mincey every three weeks. But every day for that week, right?

Two weeks on, two weeks off. He's an oil rigger. But when he does two weeks, like a while't. Yeah, he's working on the oil rig and then he comes home to his family. But when he does a week, he does the full week, right? Nope. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Okay.

You'd think that the support we've had for one Benjamin Mince, he would maybe do wake up Mince during birthday week? That would have been nice. Damn. I would have loved, if he had asked me to come in on my birthday for that, I would have dropped that.

I wouldn't even want to come in on my birthday for it. I just wanted to watch it on my birthday. Yeah. To make me feel happy. Is it even a birthday? Nope. Now, wake up, Benzi? Nope.

You never woke up. I'm zero years old. Yeah. Okay. Take. Eliminate the draft from pro sports to eliminate tanking. All rookies enter free agent pool. Floria wrote this and teams have a specific Psycology cap that they can allocate to rookies based on record Mike Flora wrote this

This still provides advantages for worse teams offer bigger contracts while forcing teams to field the tracks of situations for free agent rookies He did It is weird I mean, I think it's a stupid idea Well, because you know Mike Flora wrote it Mike Flora has been very big on this Well, he didn't actually write it, but this has been his big idea. I don't hate the idea To have it like instead of a draft you can just basically sign everyone who comes who's eligible Yeah, but then you'd get questioning like people

Players that took more money would get chirped unfairly Like people, players that took more money would get chirped unfairly. Well also you'd have the problem of like- Or trying to support their family versus like, you know, a Patriots or Chiefs being like, you don't wanna come to the best team. Well in a small market situation like would, you know, in other sports,

maybe the NFL doesn't really matter, but like would guys be like, oh yeah, I wanna go to the jazz. Yeah, I think that- But they could spend the most money too. So in theory Athletics is the only thing where you graduate from college You specialize in something in college or you know You're 18 19 years old if you're in the if you're going to the NBA

You've been working overseas at your craft and then you have to be told where to go live and what team to be on and If you're a big like NFL is rigged thing. Yeah, this is another example of the NFL being rigged It's rigged in this case for parody so that more teams can be more exciting, sell more tickets and then all that money goes into a big pool, everything gets spread out. It's good for the league if you're playing against other good competition. More people will watch. So yes, the NFL via the draft is rigged for money. Yeah.

Okay. Last one. Actually, you could make the argument that professional sports are communist. Yeah. Okay, last one. It actually, you can make the argument that professional sports are communist. Yeah. Like they're- Make you go somewhere. Yes, it is communist.

All right, last one. Or was that the last one? No, I got one more. I know this would never happen, but hear me out. Okay. That's how all great sentences start. What if after each round of the playoffs pick any sport, the winning team gets to steal any player

from the losing team to join them for the rest of the championship run by the Super Bowl and be a final Stanley Cup. You have two mega teams competing against each other for glory. Further, which two players would you pick for Kansas City and which player would you pick for the Lions? So I don't want to chrispursard this.

Will it be the Ravens and the Lions? Yeah, the Ravens and the Lions. I don't want to chrispursard this. Will it be the Ravens and the Lions? Yeah, the Ravens and the Lions. I don't want to chrispursard this. But the first I ever heard of this idea, my dad told me this idea when I was maybe 10. He was like, wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. Especially baseball, you can pick up a pitcher.

But yeah, if the, so the chiefs would get a Ravens player. Ooh, probably Kyle Hamilton, although they have a really good secondary. Maybe... Lamar, spread him out wide. Yeah, maybe Lamar. Yeah, spread him out wide. Justin Tucker.

Mark, they have a good kicker. Mark Andrews would be pretty sick. Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews would be pretty tough to defend. I would take Patrick Ricard. Yeah. I mean, the Ravens offense fell apart after Andrews came back. Yeah, that's true, that's a good point. I would take Patrick Ricard. Yeah. I mean, the Ravens offense fell apart after Andrews came back.

Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I would take Ricard. If you didn't get two, I'd take Ricard and then either Queen or Roshan. Yeah. And then for the Niners. Jerichoff.

Jerichoff. Jerichoff. Easy. And if you can't take Jerichoff. Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell, we good. Does it gas you can't take Jared Goff. Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell, we good. Does it gas you up? Could you imagine Gibbs?

Yeah. They would just be like, you can't stop anything. Or even Laporta, like Kittle and Laporta. Probably two Iowa guys. You'd probably take Penae Sewell. And then your anchors are Trent Williams and Penae Sewell. And then good luck because you also have

Jameer Gibbs back there with Christian McCaffrey. It's a little harder in football because obviously you'd have to learn a whole playbook, but baseball is what it would really be, sick it. Because you could just be like, we'll just grab a pinch hitter or a starting pitcher or a closer. Yeah. Like that would rock and you just get stronger and stronger as you go along. Which players, so if you accumulate players this entire time, is there anybody from the

Eagles who they lost in their first playoff game is there anybody that you would still be on the liners yeah who would stick around probably big Dom Travis Kelsey big Dom big Dom yeah big Dom for sure big Dom Travis Kelsey is not playing sorry Jason Kelsey my mistake so happy you messed that up yeah he was Jordan Davis Jalen Carter Yeah Okay, good show boys. This is a great show. A.g. Brown. He wants to be on a different team anyway. Yeah, it's true Let's do numbers. What what just what just happened pug and Jake just left. Oh

We got a birthday cake Thank you, Look at this. Happy birthday, Big Cat and PFT. Love it. Happy birthday, Big Cat and PFT. All right, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Jack. Jake, what kind of cake is this?

It's the birthday cake. Can you tell me what? Tell me what it is. It's the birthday cake and I lit the candles at the beginning of the segment and they Went too quickly. What is the taste though? Can you at least taste it or smell it and tell me? I think it's butter cake give it a smell Oh Ft I would have done it. I couldn't do I should have done it. I couldn't do it to our darling item

Mess up the whole office. I don't want any. I'm going to wait. I'm going to diet. I did the, oh, I just filled out my computer. I did the rundown yesterday and people were saying I look like Andy Reid. Yeah, you did. Oh, why did you say that? It's my birthday.

So is your mustache. That was what it was. Not my red rosy cheeks. Like the walrus mustache. You have anything you're going gonna change in your 39th year No, yeah, Jake did not know that we're that I was trying to pie it. No, you didn't it would have been great Yeah, we can hear you right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Appreciate it one more year in our 30s Next year we gotta do something big. We're gonna skip. I to get PFT but you got me a nice gift I gave to earlier oh I got PFT I got you something

this hat oh cuz it's the Super Bowl to happen on your birthday oh thank you big that's pretty cool right that's a great hat yeah um I get me I also I also got you this hat oh nice I'm wearing right now I already got cool already got him a hat I'm excited to read for Ben Johnson on the Washington commanders Let's do numbers 20 3 18 I'll do 39 40 21 8. Oh you motherfucker. I respect 40 I hope one of you guys win today. Oh, thanks. I don't well big how to breathe. Oh, fuck you. Max, why don't you? Well, I mean, I need to get up before big 64 64 love you guys Come on, come on, we're all great Take on me

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