Pardon My Take - John Cena, Georgia’s National Title, Coach Firings & Bring Your Lunch Pail W/ Jersey Jerry

Episode Date: January 12, 2022

Calling all the dawgs. The Georgia Bulldogs win the National title and we recap Monday’s incredible game. Coach Firings in the NFL plus we taped this before Joe Judge was fired and say dumb things a...bout how smart it would be to keep him around(00:01:57-00:33:37). Hot Seat/Cool Throne(00:33:37-00:51:14). John Cena joins the show to talk about his new show Peacemaker, big cat’s belly button, acting, wrestling, and the recent loss of his close friend(00:51:14-01:24:54). We finish the show with Jersey Jerry and bring your lunch pail/guys on chicks(01:24:54-01:46:04).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:01:54 It's a part of my take presented by Varsus Sports. Welcome to part of my take presented by GetRoman.com slash take. Go right now. You get your first Swipes for $5. GetRoman.com slash take. Today is Wednesday, January 12th. Who's that coming down the track? You're supposed to do call and response. Who's that coming down the track? It's a mean machine in red and black. It's a mean machine in red and black. Ain't nothing finer in the land. Ain't nothing finer in the land. Then a drunk obnoxious Georgia fan. Then a drunk obnoxious Georgia fan. Calling all the dogs, baby. I love that chant just because they basically tell you I'm going to be drunk and obnoxious in your face. And I love Kirby Smart after the game saying like
Starting point is 00:02:58 we're going to destroy some property in Indianapolis. That was a callback. It was a callback, but it was still an awesome thing to say on a hot mic right after you win an addy, right in front of Nick Saban's face. I did, I saw like a change in Nick Saban last night. Yeah. I don't know if you noticed this, but in the post game handshake with Kirby Smart and even right after the game, I think that there's like a small part of Nick Saban that was kind of relieved that he lost. That was like more rap poison. He was, yeah, he's happy that he lost because now he's got all sorts of bullets and bored material for next year. But he was like, he was chilled out. He was, he was smiling more when he was congratulating Kirby Smart
Starting point is 00:03:35 than he was if he had won. And we've seen Nick Saban collecting that national championship trophy before and he'll let out like the corner of his mouth will turn up and they'll be like, oh yeah, I got to go get recruiting. This sucks. But he was like, he looked like a different, like a chilled out version of Nick Saban after that one. Yeah. No, he's, he said himself that like he's trying to show more of his personality, be, you know, happier and it shows. I mean, he's won it all. He's the greatest coach of all time losing one. It's obviously disappointing for Alabama, but man, Georgia, what an unbelievable game. I love that game so much because it was, it had everything. The first three quarters were a complete defensive like masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And there's something about, I know that like the way football has gone that we're used to shoot outs. And you know, we love that Rams chiefs Monday night football game that everyone points to, but there's something about a game like Monday night's game where every possession felt like life and death. Like if you got, if it, when it was nine to six and a half time and you're saying to yourself the first person to score a touchdown, it feels like an insurmountable lead. There was something just so incredible about watching that back and forth. And then in the fourth quarter, you got the shootout. Like the fourth quarter, we got the crazy plays insane. That I mean, the touchdown pass from Stetson Bennett to a Donnie Mitchell was incredible. Everything,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I love that game so much. It was, it was an awesome, awesome national championship by far the two best teams and Kirby smart finally and the Georgia Bulldogs finally get the monkey off their back and take down Alabama. It was also incredible to see Kirby jumping up in the air after that intersecting the ceiling game. He probably has like a 30 inch vertical leap, which is, I mean, for a guy that's got a face like Kirby smart, there's nothing about that guy's cheeks that say like I can get more than a foot off the ground, but he got, he got air. You know, that's actually like the obviously Nick Saban took to Kirby smart because he's a very, very good coach, but a big part of their relationship is the famous NBA noon basketball association that Nick Saban
Starting point is 00:05:37 runs where he stacks the team. So he always wins. And they call it the Nick basketball association. When Kirby smart was an assistant for Nick Saban, he immediately was like, Oh, this guy's actually pretty good at basketball. He's on my team every time. And that, that's what kept him around for a while. Yeah. He, I mean, he stayed for, I think he was one of the longest tenured assistants under Nick Saban. I think that Kirby smart, he can probably dunk. He can get rim. What it was, what's Kirby like six, one, six, two. It might be a little short on that, but yeah, I mean, this is also talking what, like 15 years ago when he first did, he was a lot younger.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Did you see him jump last night though? Yes, yes. Like I think he can get rim. I think Kirby is sneaky athletic. It was, it was awesome though. The game was incredible. Stetson Bennett might be one of the coolest stories. I don't know if we'll ever see, I obviously never say never with sports, but with the way college football is going and the ability for like high level five star quarterbacks to transfer easily, it, it will be, I'll say this confidently, it'll be a long time before we see a walk on be the starting quarterback for a national champion again. That was the first walk on or former walk on who beat Nick Saban since 1997.
Starting point is 00:06:50 He was famously, he walked on at Georgia. He left because Justin Fields got recruited five star. He went to a junior college, Justin Fields and transferred to Ohio State. He came back, had a bunch of, you know, people had to get injured in front of him. He's a Georgia fan, grew up a Georgia fan, not like it was crazy watching him get tossed around at times during the game because it's all these guys that are freak athletes. He's five 11 and like 185 pounds. And then little Stetson Bennett is like, this guy doesn't, one of these things is not like the other and he's out there making big time throws. And that moment when that fumble happened, I mean, Georgia fans had to be as low as they've ever been. And that was like, I can't believe we trusted
Starting point is 00:07:32 Stetson fucking Bennett in this game. It felt like the game, they felt like the game when you have a, actually no, I'll take it back. There was another play where I was like Stetson Bennett can't win this game. It was on the Fleet Flicker where I think he got intentional grounding on a Fleet Flicker. Yes. And if you get intentional grounding on a Fleet Flicker, that's about as bad as it can get. It was also the first, the other Stetson Bennett can't win this game, which we all were proven wrong. I think was either the first or second game or play of the entire game for Georgia when he got sacked for like 15 yards. And then I think on the third play, he scrambled for like seven yards and fumbled to himself and bounced. No one's ever started a
Starting point is 00:08:09 game more nervous than him. There were so many plays where it's like Stetson Bennett is in way over his head. And then you made that huge throw. But I think if you're Stetson Bennett, at the end of the day, you can just remind yourself like my name is Stetson Bennett the fourth. Yes. It is my destiny to be the quarterback of the University of Georgia. And he now has everything. Like, yeah, I don't know. The mock drafts say maybe fourth round to undrafted who I would doubt that he's going to play much in the NFL. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. He's a king for life. He's got to be a Gusta membership for life. He's got to have like at least four car dealerships in Athens. He is going to pass it all. I think he's going to start out with an ATV
Starting point is 00:08:47 place like ATV and boat rentals. Yeah. And then parlay that into becoming the used auto king of the Eastern Seaboard. It's such a cool thing for him, especially that he was a Georgia fan when he was a kid. Right. And then it's every every Georgia fans dream to be the quarterback of the Bulldogs. And then he did it. And he shouldn't have been the quarterback for the boat. Like, if you had if you had hit Kirby smart with true true serum, like, would you rather have Stetson Bennett start in this game or a five star prospect that every elite program now has? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's Stetson Bennett. Stetson Bennett just somehow it was the exact right time, exact right place for Stetson Bennett. And he took full advantage of it. He had a great quote
Starting point is 00:09:25 ready for this quote. He said afterwards, by the way, it's so funny watching these guys do the interviews after being like, oh, we actually got to interview Joe Burrow when he was still drunk, because he was like Stetson Bennett went on Good Morning America. He was wasted. The differences, we were all so drunk. Michael Strahan should have been drunk if he's interviewing Stetson Bennett. It is fucked up. I always thought that the meanest thing that you could ever do to somebody is make them call and talk to Mike Greenberg at six o'clock in the morning after you win something. But he said, I hope it gives someone a little hope. Keep your mouth shut. Work hard. Life is tough. Work through it. And like, he could say that because he was a walk on and then he was transferred.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And then he came back and then he had to have, you know, he's behind Jake from and then he had to have the guy last year who his name's escaping me suck. And then he got in and then JT Daniels was a starter. Then he got hurt. Like all these things had to happen for him to be part of an incredible team. And obviously the real like winner of the Georgia football team is their defense, which they played their absolute dicks off. Like they felt like Alabama and James and William's getting hurt was a big game changer. But Alabama, like every time they would get these big plays and Georgia's defense was able to like basically shake it off and be like, all right, don't like don't give up a touchdown. Make them score field goals here. So we're not going to do
Starting point is 00:10:45 the thing where we debate whether or not the worst NFL team could lose to Georgia, because I think the Colts would beat Georgia by 20 points. Yes. But I do think that this this game, the Alabama Georgia National Championship had as many fast players on the field as most NFL teams would. It was insane. The speed on defense from Georgia. It's it's terrifying watching their big men run. It's actually scary to me. And their linebackers are faster than most safeties. And then on top of all of that, you got a guy like Brian Robinson, who's making them look small. Like he was there was that stretch where it felt like Bama had taken control of the game when they were just pounding and pounding and pounding. And like it was like, Oh, they've sucked the life out of this game.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I think it was when they again got a field goal, because I think someone dropped it. There was a lot of drop passes for Bryce Young, who's awesome. I love him so much, even in defeat. But Brian Robinson was just bouncing off these dudes and like guys were trying to go high and he was just carrying them for extra yards. You're right. It was like one of those games where you watched it. And this sucks to say, but if you're a fan of pretty much, I don't know, any team except for like the top five, you realize it's a different sport. Like those guys are playing a different sport than everyone else in college football, even the top two, the top two separation from this year. Yeah, I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah. And has to be able to reload Ohio State, like, but I'm saying
Starting point is 00:12:12 like, as a Wisconsin fan, I'm watching it being like, No, this isn't the same sport. No, this is not the same sport. Although Stetson is like the one wildcard where Stetson Bennett, he probably wouldn't start at a lot of schools out there, a lot of D one schools. I did say to myself, in a moment of utter stupidity, when it was 96 and a half, I was like, this is kind of a game script that Wisconsin could hang in, even though they would have been down like 40. But that's the thing about about Stetson is, if you if you root for a school like Wisconsin, or just, you know, any school that's, you know, five through 25, right, your quarterbacks probably better than Stetson Bennett is.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. So it's crazy. It could happen to you. That's the most important position you could, you could find lightning in a bottle if everything else lines up perfectly. Think about the quarterbacks that have won the national championship in the last five years. It's Mack Jones. Trevor Lawrence. He sucks. It's Joe Burrow. It's Tua. It's fucking Deshaun Watson. Like these guys are studs that are top picks in the draft and then Stetson Bennett throws his name in there. Combo breaker. Unbelievable. But yeah, I don't want to get bogged for this, because I don't mean in a sexual way, but they need to freeze this Uggas sperm. Like this Uggas, for whatever reason, has championship DNA.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Poor guy was so tired. He was so sleepy. He doesn't have a blanket. He doesn't have a pillow. He doesn't have a bowl of food or water. They just put him in like a plastic crate and make him go to sleep. He's in like the transfer portal to oblivion, just passing out in there. But for whatever reason, this Uggas has, he's built different. You need to keep this DNA in-house. If you're the University of Georgia and all other Uggas need to be related to this one. And it's, for Georgia fans, like there's got to be nothing sweeter. You win a title for the first time since 1980. You've been, you've had really good teams in that timeframe, but to beat Alabama, I saw a stat. So Georgia and Alabama faced off four times in the last whatever, like three or
Starting point is 00:14:12 four years, obviously starting with that 2018 national championship, where they were up at half and two of them comes in. Georgia was leading 71% of those games and they were 0-4. Like they were so close so many times and they just couldn't climb that mountain. So to not only beat Alabama, beat Nick Saban, come from behind and do it, it's like the perfect script for any fan. Georgia fans have to be just on cloud nine right now. And it was cool to have a new national champion. Like we talked about all the time. It's kind of, I love college football so, so much, but I can also admit that when Alabama wins every year or Clemson for a couple years there, like it gets a little boring. Georgia being new blood, even though it doesn't feel like it because it's SEC,
Starting point is 00:14:57 it's fun to have a new team when it's national champions. I also like the fact that the game took place in Indianapolis. I'm glad that it wasn't big 10. I'm glad it wasn't in like a southern city where they usually have, you know, if it was somewhere in Florida, somewhere in Georgia, somewhere in Louisiana, it feels like it's, it's so much cooler to have two SEC fan bases invade like a northern city. Yes. And just like wreck its shop for a week. Like the Georgia fans that got arrested at St. Elmo's for calling the dogs at St. Elmo's. Imagine. That's cool as shit. Imagine being a Bama fan because I would, you know, like Athens and Tuscaloosa, I think like a little less than 300 miles apart. So, so people probably aren't flying to like those,
Starting point is 00:15:36 those flights aren't the same, but a lot of people, a lot of Alabama fans are flying back to Atlanta. A lot of Georgia fans are flying back to Atlanta. Imagine being a Bama fan losing and then having to get barked at on a flight all the way home. They're calling the dogs. You probably, you couldn't go out to a dinner last night because they were going to call the dogs at Harry's and Izzy's in the airport too. You can't get on a plane. You're probably waiting in an Uber line right now with a bunch of Georgia fans that are calling the dogs. You're getting barked at. You've been getting barked at by human beings for three days straight and it sucks and no one feels bad for Bama fans because this is the cost of just being Alabama. You're in it every
Starting point is 00:16:14 year. You can't win it every year. They are like significant odds on favorites to win next year. I don't think they're odds on. I think them and Georgia are tied for number one. No, I was, I'm pretty sure they were plus 150 and Georgia was like 300 or something because they, because I mean, they have Bryce Young coming back. They will Anderson coming odds on would mean like they're minus money. They're like minus whatever. There are the significant favorites. They're the favorites by far. Yeah. When I saw this morning, it was about even that might have changed just in the last couple hours. Yeah. They're plus 150. Georgia's plus 500. Okay. Yeah. State second. Okay. That changed a lot then. No, that was, I think I was
Starting point is 00:16:49 right after, but it's they, they have everyone. I mean, they will most likely be in this game next year because that, I mean, Nick Saban, I'm sure they will. I'm sure they will. Alabama is going to be around for forever. Minor step back for a major comeback for Alabama. Yeah. No one feels bad. Okay. Should we talk some NFL? Let's do NFL coach firings. So this is the only part. This is the downside of week 18 that it overlaps like black Monday, where we get all the coach firings also the national championship day. I like to really soak in the coach firings. They do deserve to have their days of like massive celebration from franchises. Yes. Getting to turn a page. Yes. So Matt Nagin, Ryan Pace, both out in Chicago. We expected it. Vic Fangio out in Denver.
Starting point is 00:17:32 We expected it. Mike Zimmer out in Minnesota. We expected it. And then the shocker Brian Flores out in Miami, which I think did shock a lot of people in reading about it. It feels a lot like how a lot of the Belichick disciples have gone where good coach, maybe not like he's pulling some of the secrecy stuff, some of the team building stuff that isn't there. And your name's not Bill Belichick. And that can sometimes rub people the wrong way. Yeah. I mean, he he ended up winning what seven games in a row this year. He won. Yeah. Seven games. The problem is he also started one and seven, right? Right. And they like, yeah, he is he's a good coach, especially his record against Bill Belichick. I think he's four and two lifetime as a coach of the Dolphins against
Starting point is 00:18:18 Belichick, which is pretty impressive on the same token, like as everyone's talking about how he beat Bill Belichick, the bills beat the shit out of the Dolphins too. So it's kind of like it's I liked seeing everyone say like, why would you fire a coach that beats Bill Belichick? Well, the last couple of years, the bills have been the the Patriots in the AFCs and he didn't beat that. Also the last four games that they've played, they've had either Mac Jones or Cam Newton as a quarterback. So it's not like the Patriots, the Patriots that they're playing. But I think Brian Flores is like people were surprised because over the course of the season, they seem to be building momentum. Right. But if you look at what they did last year in this year, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:18:55 okay, it's a little bit stagnant. The fact that you had a bad start like they had this year, that's that's going to put you on the hot seat immediately. Right. And yeah, he had to have like a miraculous comeback in the second half. I think he's I think he's a perfectly fine coach. I think he's an above average coach. But I was surprised that they did it because I felt like if you're trending in the right direction and you have a winning record in the NFL, you almost never get fired. Right. Yeah. You can win your way to keeping the job at the end of a season. It's actually someone likened it to Adam Gase having that streak at the end of his, I think it was either first or second year with the Dolphins. Yeah. We talked about it a few weeks
Starting point is 00:19:33 ago. They made the playoffs with Matt Moore. Right. And they weren't a good team. That was pretty much the only time they made the playoffs since like Chad Pennington. Right. They weren't a good team. They just had a soft schedule. So you kind of win your way into getting that extra year. So I fired off a take and then I actually like Dolphins fans. I had a long discussion with them yesterday, which I actually people would be like, you like tweeting back and forth to people. I genuinely do love it because I then went and dove in and tried to like understand it. I think that he probably rubbed some people the wrong way. And it was what all NFL firings kind of come down to is like, are you liked by the owner and the GM and is the GM ingratiated himself to the owner? So
Starting point is 00:20:14 it's like a power play. He lost the power play. I think he's a good X's and O's coach. You can't, you have to point out the fact that he had three different OCs in three years and none of them got promoted. That's not great. Like if you're like, I would be fine with the Bears hiring him. I would want him to have a set plan offensively because that does come under the coach. Like even though he's a defensive coach, it's similar to Vic Fangio. Like if you don't get the offense figured out, it still counts against you. If you don't have a good enough offensive coordinator to get interviews somewhere else, it means that you just suck. The offense is just awful. Right. And so you even if you have a winning record as a defensive coach, you're still not going to have that same, you're
Starting point is 00:20:55 not going to be regarded in the same way as if you're an offensive genius and you're winning the exact same amount of games. Right. And Jake, you can chime in because you obviously are a Dolphins fan, but from everything I kind of understood from Dolphins fans is that it wasn't that they thought Brian Flores was this incredible coach. It's more that he was the best coach you guys have had in a very long time. And that's why it's this. Yeah, that's the thing. They've had them, they have momentum right now that we've never seen. This first time they had back-to-back winning seasons since 0-2-0-3. That's crazy. And for the Dolphins, that's a high bar. Right. So the fact that they actually had something going and then Stephen Ross just yanked that,
Starting point is 00:21:30 I think that's what people are upset about. I think people need to realize that more and more is that the people that own sports franchises, the person that owns your favorite team is a pretty big idiot. Just like the sooner you come to terms with that, the better. They're just, they're morons like everybody else. Like think of the dumbest people that you work with. That is typically about the same IQ level as an NFL owner. Which is a great segue to what the Bears are dealing with right now. I watched the entire press conference yesterday. George McCaskey, he was asked about his role and he said he talked to the board and they want him to stay in his role, which is literally means his mom still likes him. Who else is on the board?
Starting point is 00:22:12 What are the percentages of people with the last name McCaskey? He also said his Virginia, who's like 99, said she was very, very disappointed in the Bears season. So two varies, which this is all a replay of 2015, 2012, where they're just, nothing is going to change. They have an accountant, Ted Phillips, running the organization, which shout out to him. I hate him, but snake it till you make it. This is a lesson for anyone in life. If you can figure out a big project that you can kind of keep pushing down the line, it's very hard to fire you. So he's obviously in charge of the Arlington Heights, like land purchase. And I think that will never happen because Ted Phillips knows as long as they're
Starting point is 00:23:01 still negotiating it, he will still have a job. That's actually brilliant advice. If you're the person that's got the long-term goal out there, then you almost make it, people are afraid to fire you because then they'd have to find somebody else to restart your project. And also they've wasted so much money on you that they feel like they're a failure if they fire you. That is very smart. Here's the good news. The Bears have a very good plan going forward. They hired 79-year-old Bill Polian to run, to get paid probably $500,000 to run the coaching search. I want to start a search firm, a coaching search firm. I would be so good at it. I would just give you, I would give you eight by 10 pictures of Greg Williams, Greg Siano. I would probably print out a picture of
Starting point is 00:23:50 one of the Shula brothers. Quote, Bill Parcells. Yeah, Bill Parcells, I'd learned, like I'd have a binder of Bill Parcells quotes. I would get one of the Bowden boys in there, just to have somebody that you can say no to real early on in the process. You can look down on. Yeah, look down and be like, okay, so we know what we're not looking for now. So let's keep moving forward. It's the best racket of all time. And I think Polian's first move is, isn't he bringing in like Jeff Ireland? Well, he's, this is so, I'm officially like just giving up because it's, again, the only way the Bears can be fixed is Ted Phillips has to go and George McCaskey has to say, which it's crazy that he still says he doesn't know anything about football when his entire life has been football.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Like your family owns the Bears. It's your only job. It's literally your life is football. Maybe pop in an all 22 once in a while. I don't know. But either way, if he's still calling shots and Ted Phelps is there, nothing really matters. They hired Bill Polian. They also said, which is the dumbest thing you could possibly do. They said, we're going to look for a GM and a coach, but if the right coach comes, we'll hire the right coach before the GM. So that Bill Polian is interviewing coaches right now and also kind of GMs. So you might hire a coach and then a guy to be the coach is kind of boss afterwards. Okay. Here's what's going to happen. Bill Polian is going to bring in one of his old friends. It's really a shame that John Fox probably
Starting point is 00:25:18 won't be the coach again, because that was probably on page one for Bill Polian. It's just a sentence. This is John Fox period. Yeah. But pulling is probably going to bring in one of his buddies, interview that guy, and then they'll be like, Hey, what would have just the two of us did it? And then they hire themselves together. Bill Polian is now your general manager with the coach that helped select. They both kind of hired each other. Does that make sense? Right. It's the old Dick Cheney looking for who John F. W. Bush's vice president is going to be, Oh, it's me. I'm right here. I'm the best guy. Now that I've actually given you the criteria, I check all the boxes. Yeah. He has to have huge pants and he needs to steal food from ESPN.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. Allegedly, but not. I got you, guy. Yeah. They did the same thing though in 2015, but they got Ernie or Corsi who then hired John Fox. So it's nothing's going to change. It's all the same. I do want to push back on people who are like, Bill Polian knows, like, you know, he was the architect of the bills and the Colts and all these things. He knows so much football. At some point it has to like, he's probably not keeping up the same way he did when he was 50 years old. Yeah. And also he's the architect of the Colts. He drafted Peyton Manning. His biggest career accomplishment is like, I didn't take the other guy. Yeah. I took Peyton Manning. Good choice, Bill. I'm just going to ride that for the rest
Starting point is 00:26:34 of my life. I had one good week of work in the last 30 years. And now I just get to coast off that. It's another great example of snake until you make it. And then once you do happen to make it for a brief period of time, just ride that wave, baby. Ride it forever. And Bill's doing a good job of it. I think it's very funny what's going on in New York with the giant situation. So Dave Gettleman retired. He chose to walk away at the peak of his powers. He just figured it's time to ride off into the sunset after he's accomplished everything that he wanted to accomplish in the NFL. And it looks like Joe Judge is going to stick around. He did one of the famous long-term planning meetings with the owner where you sit and you probably cry and you fight for your job and you
Starting point is 00:27:21 give him your plan of what you're going to do for the next three to five years. And it looks like he's going to stick around. And then he said, you know, I'd really like to be involved in the search for the general manager. So he's doing... Why not? He's, he just promoted himself to like senior general manager. Yes. Who's in charge of hiring the GM who's going to be in charge of coaching decisions. So it's even better than the Bill O'Brien being general manager and head coach at the same time where head coach Bill O'Brien can fire general manager Bill O'Brien. And hire somebody else. In this circumstance, it's senior general manager, Joe Judge will hire his own boss. Genius. But also then be able to fire potentially his own boss because he hired him.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I, so I actually, I've come all the way around. I actually think the giants, they don't have anything, but keeping Joe Judge actually makes sense this year. Because I was thinking about it, you're going to hire a GM, you can pretend like, like you said, like we'll let Joe Judge pretend that he's picking. You know what I mean? He, I imagine Joe Judge is going to be doing fake interviews and they, like, they'll be like, oh, Joe, Joe, can you pass over your notes? Like, thank you. Then they throw it right in the trash. But if you're going to get, the team sucks, it's got like big time. The craziest part about the giants is they spent all this money. So they're, they're like, obviously the cap is crap, but like, they're right up against it. They don't have a lot
Starting point is 00:28:45 of moves they can make. Why not keep Joe Judge, fire him midway through next season. The GM, the new GM can use Joe Judge as a cover and basically be like, all right, we've made a change, Joe Judge is gone. And then the new GM gets his new coach. Like that's what's going to happen. That's a very smart thing to do. Right. Like I've thought about it a lot because on paper, Joe Judge still having his job and Brian Floor is losing his job. It's fucking crazy. It is nuts. But it makes sense because he's basically, they're basically like, Joe, we don't want to pay someone else to then inherit a, like no real up and coming candidate is going to say the Giants is a great job right now. Wait a year, get some draft picks,
Starting point is 00:29:27 like clean the slate, then fire. I do think that right now the Giants is a very attractive job if you're a general manager, if you're aspiring general manager. But for a coach, no, because next year is going to suck. Coach no, but for a GM, absolutely. Because you do have some draft picks this year that you're stepping into. Two in the top 10. And then you have the perfect scapegoat and Joe Judge. Nobody expects anything out of Joe Judge next year. Right. That's smart. Right. You need a human shield. Yes. You need a human shield. It's like if a coach takes over quarterback situation where it's like somebody that you just recently drafted and you've got all these expectations, but they stink in their second year,
Starting point is 00:30:06 a coach can then immediately hit the reset button either by trading for a quarterback or drafting another one. If you're a new coach, you've got another two years extension. Right. Actually firing Joe Judge would be the most popular personnel decision that the Giants have done in years. Exactly. You basically are giving, it's basically the free box in a bingo card is what you're handing the GM. Yeah, people are going to love you. You get to show up, you get to go through the first two months of the season, have the Giants suck, then fire Joe Judge and everyone's like, thank God he's cleaning house. The problem with the Giants is I feel like Mr. Mara, the Mara family is constantly looking for another Tom Coughlin.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. They just want, they hired Joe Judge to be their younger version of Tom Coughlin, which is basically saying we want an asshole. Right. We want an asshole that happens to also be good at coaching football, but the problem is if you're going to be an asshole, you have to be an asshole that has a track record of success in the NFL, but you can't really be an asshole before you become a good coach. Every bell check disciple. You can turn into an asshole afterwards, but it's usually not a prerequisite for everybody to hate you before you get good, which is it seems like the most basic human interaction piece of advice that you can ever have. It's second nature, right? Make friends. Make friends first and then you can do whatever
Starting point is 00:31:30 after you start doing good stuff. The Dolphin situation. I read this article that I'm always, obviously skeptical after a coach gets fired, who's putting everything in the media, but it was very fair and like right down the middle. And they essentially said, what's his first name? Greer. Chris Greer. Chris Greer, the GM for the Dolphins. They're like, why has Chris Greer been able to hang around through Adam Gase and Brian Flores and all these changes? And it's like, because he's very deferential and he shows Steven Ross a ton of respect. He's a suck up. Like sometimes you got to be a suck up in your job. I mean, Vinnie Serato was the general manager and senior legal counsel for the Washington football team for the Redskins for, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:32:12 like 14 years. And he would, the only time he ever got fired was one time Marty Schottenheimer was like, this guy sucks and he's a football dumb ass. So I'm going to fire him for a year. Then Schottenheimer got fired so that they could rehire Serato. But Serato's job was essentially to just get beaten by Dan Snyder and Racquetball. This is Ted Phillips that we're talking about. It's full circle. There's always one of these guys in every organization. Just let the owner kick your ass in Racquetball or golf, whatever sport that he plays, laugh at all his jokes, make sure he has his nice cigars that he likes, cover up any sort of sexual harassment claims that he's got going under the rug. And then you will have a job for life as being like the football
Starting point is 00:32:51 Rasputin, the second in command of any franchise. It's really hard to fire your friend. Yep. That's what we've learned in the NFL. But it's, um, yeah, the, the Giants, it will be interesting. There's so there's four jobs open. I don't, it feels like Pete Carroll, they're going to, it would be so, the Seahawks would be so smart to just bring Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson back. They are, be like, it has to happen. You're, you're, you're better with these two guys than like 80% of the league. Right. But that's all they're going to do this off. They're going to say, you know what, these two guys are coming back. We've got a quarterback, got our coach. So we'll be fine. We'll just roll the dice with these guys again, and then they just won't do anything to address
Starting point is 00:33:30 any other positions of need whatsoever. But I, I still would rather that than break up those guys because we see it. You end up in football purgatory with revolving doors. And there's a lot of franchises. You can say that about the Bears are definitely one of them. The Giants are one of them where you just lose your way. And there's, it's like a never ending cycle. So, um, okay, should we do hot seat, cool throne? Let's do it. All right. Hot seat, cool throne brought to you by wood, uh, introducing wood, a new men's grooming line offering products across hair, body, beard and shave. Wood is for those who would, those who dare to try new things and are always planning their next adventure. Wood works and smells as good as it looks.
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Starting point is 00:35:03 Dipsett, not the, isn't there like a cold leader on Dipsett? Not the cold leader one. Yeah. Yeah. In a interview with the breakfast club recently, he claims that he learned how to tongue kiss from his mom. Oh, okay. And it was very awkward where they kind of didn't keep going with it. Bonk. That's, that was a bonk. Yeah. That's a major bonk. Kind of early guys on chicks. Oedipus. Yeah. Did he kill his dad? Damn. I don't know. I mean, I guess, yeah, that's, that's a lot to digest there. Yeah. I don't really know. Uh, I didn't know if he had a take on it. I don't. My take is that it's weird. Yeah. Like he kissed his mom or his mom taught him how to, that's what they didn't ask. Like, I don't know if it was just verbally showing. It's like slightly
Starting point is 00:35:46 less weird if his mom's like, you put your tongue into the girl's mouth. And that's kind of it. And that's it. That's awesome. And then you kind of move it around a little bit, not too fast, not too slow. So yeah, this is fucked up. Yeah, really fucked up. I feel very uncomfortable right now. Okay. Your cool throne. All right. My cool throne is Avril Lavigne. All right. She alive? Yes. And she, she had a, what is it called? She had like a cover like story written on her. And I believe it was bizarre or like one of those. Okay. And she posted on Instagram like who wants a new song and people are saying she's going to put out a new album, which I don't think she has. Avril's back forever. I'm pumped about this for one reason.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I saw her on New Year's Eve for a little bit. I was flipping back and forth between her and Miley. And her performance, she did Skater Boy. Switching back before. No, no, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. But she did a performance Skater Boy, Travis Barker on the drums. If Travis Barker plays drums on this new album, I'm all in because whatever he does, he's somehow like the best songwriting drummer where he makes any band or any act that he plays with that much better. And we're also trying to get him on a song for pup punk. So Travis, you're the, you're the man dog play with pup punk. Yes. All right. Good job, Bubba. Thank you. PFT, your hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is New York times crossword puzzles. Oh, because people are playing wordle now,
Starting point is 00:37:12 wordle. And I don't know what the fuck wordle is. I've reached the point where I've seen so many people tweeting about and talking about it that now I hate the people that are talking about because I haven't done it yet. And so now I just might be an anti-wordle guy. I tried to download it and I forgot my Apple password. So then I stopped. Okay. You want to be an anti-wordle? I'm in. Okay. Fuck wordle. Fuck these nerds with your green dots. Yep. Yeah. I've been doing it. I've been doing it and they have a colorblind version. And then I just fucking got roasted for it. It's like, it's like, it looks like it's like night mode almost progressive wordle. Explain it to me. Like, pretend like I'm an idiot. So you have to, it gives you,
Starting point is 00:37:50 it's like five letter words where you guess and then if it's the letter, yeah, like that would be one. Okay. And then it tells you if the letter is in the right space or if it's like in the word and then you just keep guessing as it goes. Oh, that sounds stupid. I don't play mastermind, the board game with the color pegs. I don't like anything that's supposed to sharpen my mind. I'd like to just have my mind get duller and duller. Yeah, that's why I watch TV. Yeah, exactly. I don't need to read first thing in the morning. Your cool throne? My cool throne is starting Wars in the Middle East. Because the New Yorker is, yeah, nice light one. Okay, nice. The New Yorker is, well, it's a four
Starting point is 00:38:30 letter country. It starts with a letter I. Who are we going to bomb next? If you guessed Iran, you are correct. The New Yorker is writing an article just being like, hey, heads up, Iran, they're actually, they're going to attack. So we better start a war over their real quick pronto and take care of that regime as if we haven't lived through the last 20 years of existence on planet Earth. It's like the day like a 60 year old retires and they're like, what do I do with my life? I worked all my life. I was at war all my life. Yeah, you gotta go back to war. You gotta find something else. Brooks was here. It is. It's funny how we keep doing the exact same thing over and over and over again. It'll be different. It'll be different this time. You know what? We're
Starting point is 00:39:16 going to be greeted as liberators over there. You know what it is? It like starting another war in the Middle East, it is like another team hiring Adam Gase and being like, you know what? We feel like this time he's really different. He's shown a lot of growth. He had some bad setups in the past, some bad environments. He was with Peyton Manning. He was with Peyton Manning. Remember, he had that great season. Yep. Yeah. Love it. All we've got to do is eat McDonald's and blue jeans. Exactly. That's us saying, remember the first Iraq war. We won that in two weeks. That was awesome. Had a great team around them. George Schwartzkoff. Yeah, but so yeah, we're going back to war in the Middle East. Sick. All right. My hot seat is Colt's fans because not only on Monday
Starting point is 00:39:56 night was it in Indianapolis, you could actually see the Colt, the faint Colt's logo at midfield. And then the day after your season falls apart against the two and 14 Jackson Jaguars, they win three games, three and third, three and 14 Jackson Jacksonville Jaguars. Carson Wentz shits down his leg and then Andrew Luck shows up out of nowhere and he goes on with RG three. And that had to suck so fucking bad to be like, Oh, all of our life's problems can be fixed by this guy who just showed up on TV. But he doesn't even want to be there. He looked like he's lost about 70 pounds. Oh my God. I actually don't think that Andrew Luck has picked up a football in the last three years. Yeah. And he looks really happy, but it was, it was, it was right there.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It was, it was right there. It's right in your face. You're trying to just drown your sorrows and Andrew Luck shows up looking happy as could be. And Andrew Luck does not lose that game. No, he doesn't. No, he does not. People forget. Andrew Luck was a very, very good quarterback. Yes. Yes. Even though Hank would probably dispute that. I think he's one of the guys that Hank hates, right? Yeah, there's a list. I run it. All right. My cool throne is Billy because when Bill Pullian was announced that he was hired by the Bills, or sorry, the Bears, I went and looked and tried to see his worst takes. Everyone knows the Lamar Jackson take, but he actually said about that 2017 or that was the 2018 draft. He said about the 2017 draft,
Starting point is 00:41:32 the Mitch Trebisky draft, former Bills GM, Bill Pullian says Chad Kelly is the most talented QB in 2017 NFL draft. So Billy is running the Bears. Well, have you seen Ryan Pace? Yeah. No, there was some picture that someone tied me in where Ryan Pace like, I had to do a double check. I thought it was me. I would rather you be running the Bears. No joke. Like, and that's not. We'd have fun with it. Yeah. No, at least we'd be doing some out-of-the-box things. High effort. Yeah. No, you would just hire that, the Iowa strength coach that Urban Meyer hired. Great. Who cares? We're just going to be something different. We're going to be the strongest team. But it's great to see that like that's the guy they hired is he, that's your take, Chad Kelly,
Starting point is 00:42:13 most talented guy. Yeah. And then also my cool throne is Game of the Year is 2 and 0, 2022. It is thrilling. I would strongly recommend everyone do a Game of the Year because it's or multiple because it feels extra special when you have that much on it. I feel like Game of the Year. I don't want to do a game because that's your thing. I would do like a game. You did the Dream game, which I told you, Billy fucked you up with the pills. It was just reversed. No, but my score was perfect. I'm saying though, you were like, if you had just reversed it, Georgia. The total, the point total was perfect. No, I'm not going to do a Game of the Year. Dream game is different, very different for you. That's just like something shows up in your subconscious
Starting point is 00:42:53 and structs you about something. The pills though. I would do a Game of the Decade. I've done a Game of the Century. Game of the Century. Yeah. This is Game of Millennium. You did, you did a Game of the Century? I've done a Game of the, I think I did a Game of the Decade last year of the year before. I know Stu Fine or does Game of the Centuries like once every couple weeks. So I might do Game of a Lifetime. Game of the Millennium. Goal. Yeah, you can just keep going with it. It's fun. When's the next Game of the Year? I got to, I got to look probably the next couple of weeks, if we're being honest. I'll probably end up with about 25 to 30 Game of the Years this year. I mean, it's January. I'm already got two. So I'm kind of, I'm on pace for
Starting point is 00:43:33 48, yeah, averaging one a week. We're in the second week in January. All right, what's your hot seat quote through on Billy? My hot seat is Pokemon Go. Two police officers were arrested for instead of responding to a robbery in progress, they decided to go hunt Snorlax on their Pokemon Go app instead of responding to crime scene. Did they get them though? Yes. They got Snorlax. They did. Good. It's kind of worth it. Yeah, mission accomplished. And they both got fired. Why? Snorlax didn't do it anything for them. I didn't even know that people were honestly still playing Pokemon Go. That was 2016. It was also the most blatant, we're just going to take pictures of your house. Yeah, everybody turn this camera on and videotape the inside of your house and then send it to China.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, point it at all of your surroundings and neighborhoods so that we can Google map everything from the ground. This is totally fine. But the fucking Pokemon showed up on your phone in your house. It was cool. It was very cool. It was cool. And your cool throne? My cool throne is the Turkmenistan gates of hell. Okay. Yes. Are we invading them? No, but it is basically a pit that's been burning since about since they discovered it. They think Soviet scientists might have done it. Turkmenistan has once again tried to extinguish the gates of hell and they have not been able to. It's just a mystery fire underground. It's just a hole that is burning that's not a volcano that is just burning gas. Sounds like hell sounds like they discovered hell. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's like the eternal flame. Wasn't there a fire in Pennsylvania that lasted for like 70 years in underground fire? Sure. I'm pretty sure there was. It might still be going to this very day. That sounds like something that can't really be fact checked that I think you just got to get a spin as a positive. Yeah. Like this is the the home of the longest burning fire in America. Longest burning fire ever. Yeah. My other cool throne is the northeast because it's pretty fucking cold. Yeah. It was cold today. It was windy. It's cold. 20 degrees. Yeah. Winter socks. Historically cold. Winter socks. But guess what? We still have like five more weeks of football. So that is the positive to week 18 is it doesn't even like I always get a little sad after divisional round
Starting point is 00:45:44 because you're like, oh shit, there's only three more games. Yeah. I start to get upset when we no longer have Saturday football. Right. So we have two more weeks of that to get us through January. All right. Oh yeah. The fire has been burning since 1962 in Centralia. There we go. Still going right now. It's a sick fire. My hot seat is Dick's Sporting Goods. So they tweeted out 10 p.m. on the dot Georgia champions. They were right. So their employees are on the cool throne. But if they lost that could have been a big issue. I'm woke. I feel like that was just a genius plan to get people to talk about Dick's Sporting Goods. Right. Here we are. Like that every every account should do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's genius. Like watch it. Michael Ruhman is like putting them out
Starting point is 00:46:26 of business single-handedly. We should remind her memes. Let's make sure we do that for the Super Bowl. So in like the beginning of the third quarter tweet out from part of my take congrats to fill in the blank team with fake shirts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that would be great. We will that will like that. And people will own us publicity. Everyone who's listening right now will know when or what we can also do is like right after Championship Sunday schedule a tweet for 12 hours later and be like congratulations to the whoever loses that game. So if the Kansas City Chiefs lose the FC. Yeah, congrats to the Kansas City Chiefs for going to another Super Bowl and then put up a shirt. Yes. Of the Chiefs and everybody like oh when scheduling tweets goes wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yeah. And then sweet interactions. Yes. Then we got. I like the idea. Also maybe schedule a tweet of Jason Derulo falling down those stairs. If we're just doing it right now. That's always a winner. Put that in there. All right. Like Cool Throne with Masters commercials. Yes. They made their debut last night during the broadcast. Oh no. No. Jake. Oh no. Jake. They made their debut on New Year's Day. Yeah. For the Rose Bowl. Okay. It was during the Rose Bowl. I was flying this here we go again. No Jake. My other Cool Throne is Calamans. Taste the music Jake. Jake. The sun was going down. They made their debut in my eyes. I even tweeted about it. I said this is pretty early for Masters. They made their debut in my eyes. Oh no. I apologize. Jake. There we go. Jake for
Starting point is 00:47:56 Sark's. Damn it. 2022 is not your year. It really isn't so far. What a colossal f**k up. Have you are you going through it right now? There's a lot going on. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Maybe a notes app will fix it tomorrow. Again. Yeah. I think I mean the people need a notes app when you f**k up. We need it. They made their debut on this show. What do you mean? The topic. Masters commercials. Right now. Okay. You just made their debut. Okay. I apologize. I remember tweeting about it being like it's way too early for Masters commercials during the Rose Bowl. It's just crazy that I know it's the only person that we can trust on the Bench mob is Marty. Yeah. He's the last one. The last bastion of integrity. Before we judge Jake, I think we should COVID test him to make
Starting point is 00:48:41 sure he doesn't have COVID. Now he's going to be nervous all day. I think that's only fair. Don't do that. He's going to be an anxious wreck. My other cool throne are journalists. They got their shrimp last night. The timeline was rotted with shrimp. All of them treated the exact same time. I love big J journalists. They act like they've never seen food before. Every time there's food. It's also in Indianapolis, we know like we've had the shrimp before. It's just it's big shrimp and it's kind of spicy. Yeah. The cocktail sauce is what's really good. They freak out about shrimp every time they see it. Like during the combine, you'll see a million tweets from newspaper guys that are up there and be like, holy crap. The shrimp is here. First of all, where are you
Starting point is 00:49:21 getting your shrimp in Indiana from? Where do we know is that? I was just going to say like, why is it good there? It's probably the farthest away from any actual natural shrimp location of any place in the United States. The it is just I love like if you're an owner of a team or you own a stadium, why wouldn't you just go balls to the wall every time because journalists will always talk nicely about you. Here's what you need. You need you need a shrimp cocktail. You need ice cream sandwiches or an ice cream selection. You need a refrigerator just filled to the brim with diet coke and then you need like hologram Bruce Springsteen. Oh, don't forget. Very important. You need a cutting board. You need some meat being cut. You need some some either some steak,
Starting point is 00:50:04 some brisket, whatever it may be. But you need the carving station because they fucking love a carving station. They give me the worst meat in the world. Yeah. But if you carve it just there, if it's hang carved, then they'll be like, Oh, this is luxury. Damn, this is incredible. All right, let's get to John Cena. Good job, Jake. Thank you. I wait the notes app. All right, before we get to John Cena cross country mortgage football players make football plays, but they also make plays off the field. Like the experts over a cross country mortgage, they might not be doing or they might not be doling out concussions or breaking bones, but they're dedicated to doing whatever it takes to get you in the home of your dreams. Cross country mortgage has a team of loan
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Starting point is 00:51:26 John Cena. Yo, what's happened? What's going on? Good to see you. Nice. Nice situation you guys got there. You got a power rack in the back. Yeah, this is you. You bet. So yeah, last time you were on, we were in our old office. We're in our new studio now. It's too bad. We could have benched together. That's an, it's not a bench day for me. It's more of a compound movement day. But I appreciate it. What are you doing? Deadlifts? I'm going to try to do some snatch. Nice. Yeah, me too. A little ollie weight, ollie weightlifting. I was trying to, I was just trying to pursue a more perfect snatch technique. Let's go home. All right. Are you good to go? Sure am. All right. Let's do it. Three, two, one. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend,
Starting point is 00:52:11 John Cena. Go to HBO max on January 13th. Peacemaker is going to be out the first three episodes are out on January 13th. And then every week after that, until the middle of February, new show, it's going to be awesome. I'm very excited. And, and you're in the Peacemaker outfit right now, which is make some peace. Oh, you got the gloves on too. What should see below my waist? Well, let's start with that. So I saw the, yeah, let's start. Let's go right to it. I saw the, the, the trailer. You're dancing in your underwear. You said you were self conscious. How is John Cena self conscious when you are a Greek God? Well, you need to get an eye exam. Step one to where all of us are flawed guys. And,
Starting point is 00:53:05 and all of us, if you're not nervous, and you don't have fear in your life, you may have to, to see a mental professional about that. I can't sing. I can't dance. And my first day of shooting in front of 70 strangers, even with COVID safety safety protocols, I'm in tidy whities. So I'm, I'm told to do two things. I'm really new and not proficient at and not any good at and do it with pretty much showing my junk to the world. I was nervous about that. I was hella nervous, but that was our first day. And hats off to James Gunn for doing it for day one, because we kind of set the tone to just have some fun. And it really set the tone on what the series was about. Yeah. Did you get to give him any notes on that? Like, hey, maybe I can wear cargo shorts and
Starting point is 00:53:48 dance. I'd feel more comfortable if I had. I certainly would feel comfortable in cargo shorts or jorts, but I don't, I don't know if he's in the note taken business and I'm not in the note given business. So I was told the tidy whities. So I brought a my, my, my small piece to the table and we made some peace. I liked that he did that on the first day. It's kind of like Hoosiers when they practice without a ball. Everything's easier after that where it's like you're honestly, it was, and it got the crew laughing. Like nobody really knows anybody. So when you assemble a crew for a hundred and 20 day shoot, you know, you're going to develop relationships over that time. And to do that first and to see, you know, one of the lead characters be able to
Starting point is 00:54:26 just let there, you know, let, let everything hang out. I think it just, it just took the edge off and everybody had, we had a great shoot. It was really, really fun. Growing up, were you, were you a comic book guy? Did you use to read them back in the day? No, I wasn't. I was a wrestling guy. Like I loved wrestling wrestling. Those were my superheroes. So I really wasn't a comic book guy in the whole universe. You know, when, like when the first Batman, the Michael Keaton Batman came out, of course I was riveted by that. I've always loved Batman because the gadgets, even the Adam West Batmobile, but like nothing really too serious. No. Okay. So you're, you're an, a bona fide A-lister. You can do anything you want. You,
Starting point is 00:55:02 you know, you've made a ton of money. You've acted, you've been hypothetical, right? No, no, this is all real. You've, you've read books. Yeah. You've written books. You have a hit album, which I love. I wish you would rap some more. What made you want to do this show though? Like what's the process that says, Oh, this is actually something I want to do. Cause I'd imagine you or a guy at this point in your career, you can do literally anything. Uh, well, you know, our perception of other people's worlds is sometimes amazing. James Gunn, I got to work with him on the Suicide Squad and I got to see how fantastic he is. He's such an amazing storyteller and he also has a no asshole and he puts together teams of people
Starting point is 00:55:42 who there's, there's not a bad apple in a bunch. So you know, like I said, these are long shoots. And if you have somebody with a bad attitude, that can see through to anybody on set. So I liked the fact that I knew I'm going to be surrounded by good people. I knew I was going to be surrounded by a professional. It made me better. And I knew James is going to put together a cast of the best people that could possibly get. So I figured it could go, uh, it was going to be a great experience either way. Yeah. Great. I mean, that sounds, I mean, like I said, it's, it's got to be nice to be John seen at this point. Is there a specific thing that you haven't done that you want to do that you're like, I mean, you've done, like I said, I know you're humble,
Starting point is 00:56:20 but like I'll, I'll be not humble for you. You have done it all and you've done it all well. Is there something that you want to do that you, you have your eye on? You're like, you know, it'd be really cool to do this because I'm John Cena. Uh, you know, I'll shave the last half off of that question. I don't know any other way to live. I mean, I'm, I'm myself. So I live every day as, as, as me, a superhero. I try to work on empathy. So I try to see things through other people's eyes and I appreciate the kind words. I guess the answer is just something I love. And I don't know what that is right now. It's definitely storytelling. And I don't seek out like this role would be great. I read, I read, I read a lot of scripts. And if I read it and I'm riveted by it,
Starting point is 00:57:00 I know that I can contribute to it. And it doesn't need to be, I don't need to be the lead. It could be a very small role. I just finished a very small role in a movie called The Independent where the script was riveting and the, it was intriguing to me. So, and that's a role that it's, it's not this and it's not adult comedy. Like it's a, it's a dramatic role. And that was, that was really, I was just riveted by the stories and I didn't search that out. It just, hey, read the script and tell me what you think. So that's kind of how all of this stuff happens. I love, I love to read and when, if I'm riveted by the story, I know I'm passionate about it. If I'm passionate about it, I know I'm going to get my altar.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Quick side question. When you read a script, do you count that as reading a book? Like at the end of the year, when you're like, I read 10 books, you should just a little tip there. Okay. I'll, I mean, the only person keeping score on that one is really me. So, but I will. Okay. What about if you listen to a book? I haven't yet explored listening to a book. What, what's your, what's your guys take on that? Audiobooks. There's a really good one out there called Godel vs Obama, but I'm not really a big audio book guy, but I do count it though. At the end of the year, like Big Cat saying, I think if you read like a pamphlet that's four pages long, that counts as a book.
Starting point is 00:58:10 If you read the back of four different types of cereal boxes, if you have to sign a lease, if you have to sign a lease, you just like peruse it. Yeah. If you like peruse the legal ease, I would imagine you're like your cell phone provider or like a phone privacy agreement. Yeah. When you download a game and they say like, Hey, we're taking all of your information and using it against you. That's a book. Or if you, if you were to watch any, you know, recurring series on Netflix or on Hulu or anything like that, HBO max or like HBO max. Yeah. If you watch peacemaker on HBO max and you put the subtitles on that counts as a book. Each episode counts as a book. Once again, to this fictitious
Starting point is 00:58:53 scorecard that nobody cares about but us. People care. Yeah. No, you got that. What's the point of reading? If you're not going to flex on somebody at the end of the year and be like, I read more books than you this year. I don't know. Maybe, maybe learning something. So it sounds like from the, from the tone of this conversation, how you're working on yourself and looking forward to trying new challenges, we can safely say that the professor of thugonomics is not coming back. Oh, that's not true. That's not true. Uh, you know, I kind of over the, over the years, you've actually seen more of, of the good doctor of thugonomics than, then over like the past 10 years, the, uh, appearance in the Firefly Funhouse match,
Starting point is 00:59:31 the appearance of WrestleMania with Elias. It's almost like that, that character has taken on a sense of nostalgia itself. So when it shows up, it's, it's, it's like a, it's a thing that gets people excited. So I never, never say never, dude, I'm doing an interview in full peacemaker. Yeah. I love that album. I used to play it in college. It was the fastest way to get chicks to want to leave a party. Thank you very much. At like two in the morning, they're like, why are these guys doing, putting their hands in front of their face and screaming lyrics at us? By the way, little did they know that that would be the basis of a lot of meme culture years to come. They didn't know what a meme was. It's in their defense. They didn't know what a
Starting point is 01:00:10 meme was. That's true. I mean, I like, I think my favorite phrase that you ever had was tough to bring down like an overweight running back. That's just, that's like a nod to Mike Allstatt. I thought that you were talking about. Or Ironhead Hayward or Christian Acoye, you know, any of those. Mike Tolbert. The fullbacks. Yeah, Mike Tolbert, legendary goal line. I actually made a remix of one of your songs back in 2014, Make It Loud. I just, I just took Make It Loud and I, I spliced in you announcing that we've killed Osama bin Laden throughout the song just to make it a little bit more patriotic, dial it up a little bit for you. All right, that's, that is a take. Yeah. If you look back on your career is, is saying like we have just compromised to the
Starting point is 01:00:51 fullest extent Osama bin Laden, is that maybe like a highlight? Because you have to think of that on the spot. And I've never heard somebody use the phrase like compromised to the fullest extent. But when you said it, I was like, that's fucking cool. I think you, I think you may have a paraphrase instead of a quote. Oh, okay. Maybe to a permanent end. To a permanent end. Yes. That's even cooler. Yes. So that was a big piece of news. And it just happened. And I was being fed the news live. And we were at a pay-per-view in the DC area. And that, I mean, that's a, we're, we're, we're talking this is a piece of news that, that shook the United States to its very core with the events in 9 11. And I thought it would, I thought it was something that people should know. And that
Starting point is 01:01:45 they should like, okay, I know this information now. I'm in front of this audience. They should, they should know this. And I just tried to think of a way to convey the message to make it as digestible as possible. And that's the, that's what popped into my head. I wanted people not to find out when they got home. I thought about that event and that moment in time was so impactful that I wanted the people to know right there. And that's, that's just the, I tried the best I could to convey that message. I'm glad you remember it in paraphrase form. I appreciate it. It means it affected your life in some way, but I just tried the best I could to do it. It's an all-time moment. It's an all-time moment. It's got to be an all-time
Starting point is 01:02:27 thrill that like we, we joke about breaking news to people. There's something about that that's a rush. Breaking that type of news to a, you know, a stadium of people has got to be a career highlight. You know, obviously there's things you actually did, but like that's got to be one of the things that you remember most vividly, I would imagine. Well, certainly to be in a position where people pay attention to your message. I mean, that's, that, that there's, but there's, there's no doubt that, that, like I said, that's, that's a moment that had a ton of gravity, which is why, and I, I didn't do it for the broadcast. I thought we were off air. So I just literally did it for the people in arena, because if you're, if we're on the broadcast, you can click and find the news
Starting point is 01:03:12 elsewhere. So I just really did it for the live people in the arena that may not have instant access to that piece of information. Wow, crazy. So I don't know if you remember to go a little lighter route. I don't even know if you remember when you came in and we interviewed you the first time, do you? You've done so many interviews. It's okay. We forgot it when it was in, no, it was in your, your, like you said, your old offices, all white offices were pretty much in like a closet phone booth corner with you guys, right? And it was, was there three of you then? Yeah, three of us in the room probably, maybe three of us in the room, but the part that I'm hoping you remember, and I'm hoping you think about all the time is my belly button, because
Starting point is 01:03:53 you saw my belly button, how deep it was, and you wanted to risk it all. I don't know. You know how, you know, how we have experiences in our life that we're not brave enough to revisit, so we just black out and like, it takes a concentrated, dedicated therapy. You just uncovered that experience for me, whether I'm ready for it or not. I don't know, but I feel like I may have to go to the bathroom and cry at the same time. And somehow I'll be moved in an emotional way. Yeah, you got, you got a deep belly button. I got a very deep belly button and you gave it, you gave it a sup with your eyes. I assessed your anatomy. I did. All right. Reveal yourself to me. I did, I did look at you. Yes. Yes. You, you look deep inside
Starting point is 01:04:42 my butts. It's more central than looking deep into someone's eyes, looking into the crevices of their belly button, the cavernous belly button. Yes. They're former feeding too. Yes. Well, yeah, if you want to put it that way. We're gonna get back to John Cena in a second, but before we do, Hello Fresh is here to tell you about their farm fresh, pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstop. Skip trips to the grocery store and count on Hello Fresh to make home cooking easy, fun, and affordable. That's why it's America's number one meal kit. I tried Hello Fresh a few weeks ago. It is delicious. They give you great food, high-quality ingredients. They make it really easy too. There's some meal prep companies at Cindy Stuff and it
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Starting point is 01:06:52 Get people buzzing about the new series on HBO Max Peacemaker. Check it out right now. binge watch it. Read a book while you're doing it. Who's side are you taking? Make sure the subtitles are on. Yes. Otherwise it doesn't count as a book. Otherwise you're just looking at a book, not reading it. Who's side do you take? Vin Diesel or The Rock? Oh, I don't think that story is about taking sides. I think that story is about hearing everybody's perspective. And it's a story where me as a fan of the franchise, I'd love the franchise to get together for this last run. You know, I hope they call me to be in it. But when when someone says professionally, they want to go in another direction.
Starting point is 01:07:34 If you if you say anything other than okay, it's their professional opinion to make the choice that they want. And I think that's very brave and very honest. So I think I think Vin's perspective has a lot of gravity and honesty. And I think Dwayne's perspective has a lot of gravity and honesty. And I don't I think this is man, if we could just stop taking sides, just take a second. Very mature of you to hear everybody that these are both two amazingly successful superstars, people who have crafted their own existence and are just globally adored. And, you know, Vin's been the father of the fast franchise. He's come in on his 10th installment. Dwayne is taken started as a started as the
Starting point is 01:08:19 most electrifying sports entertainer in the history of sports entertainment and is he's now in his own universe. So I guess it's just about understanding where each guy's coming from. So it's a very mature answer. I'm trying to get headlines and you're doing a good job of answering like an adult. Would you rather drink Corona's with Vin Diesel or Tequila with rock? So straight spirits are tough. They make a night quick. And I've always really wanted, because I'm a fan of the fast franchise, I've always really wanted to be invited to a barbecue. And I know I don't I have to be grateful for what I have and not for what I want. And being invited into the fast franchise, especially to play at Toretto
Starting point is 01:09:01 was man, that's an honor. But damn, and I was pissed when I wasn't in the barbecue because I've always wanted to be in a fast barbecue that, that symbol of family and camaraderie and when everybody's drinking, you know, as it's just a, I wanted to be involved. So because for that reason alone and the fact that, you know, spirits get you there quicker. So, and I've seen rock, he chugs Tequila. I just, I don't know if I could go match for match with them. I think he just put me under the fence. So maybe I'd stick to a fast barbecue. Okay. Good answer. I have another headline grab. You recently died from COVID. What was that like? Well, I would ask the person that wrote that piece of information is apparently they really make
Starting point is 01:09:49 good animatronic robots. It's more than the hall of the president stuff. I mean, look at this. This was really real. So I would, I think that's a great exercise in fact checking articles. Yes. Did you think that you were done? We all need to do. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Do we have, what was it? What went, I mean, for people who don't know, there was just one of those stupid internet rumors that John Cena died from COVID. That's got to piss you off a little bit. No, no, it doesn't. Honestly, if anything, it just, when someone, see, it's weird that you can take a piece of information like that and say stupid internet rumor. I wish, I wish more people would have a perspective to cross check
Starting point is 01:10:31 and fact check and dive deeper for truthful information because there's so many things out there that might fall into the classification of stupid internet rumors. But when it's something as silly as that, that we know isn't true now because I'm speaking to you in real time on this show, I think it's a nice exercise and to don't believe everything you read. Was there a small part of you that wanted to just kind of go along with it for a day, just to get some of the tributes out there, just so you can see all the nice things people might say and then be like, tada. A small part of me that wanted to end my existence. The answer to that is a resounding no. I love the gift of life and I want to have the gift as long as I possibly
Starting point is 01:11:12 can. So no. Not to end your existence, but to just kind of not say anything about the rumor being fake for a day. What? And where is the good in that? I guess people would just be like, man, I love John Cena. He's such a great guy. Remember that time? People would share anecdotes like I would have tweeted. Remember that time? John Cena wanted to fuck my belly button. Man, I miss that guy. I know. I know you guys are trying to have some fun. I just I just lost a really close friend two days ago. Oh, no, no, that's cool. So when I say something like that and you take the smile off your face, loss is a really tough thing. And trust me, I'll joke about a lot of stuff, especially if you watch peacemaker, I'll joke about a ton of stuff. But if you're trying to get headline grabs,
Starting point is 01:11:59 I don't think especially at this point, at any point, the fragile nature of human life is a headline to grab. So I know what you're trying to do. I can't fault you for trying, but in taking a moment to reflect on the passing with a close friend of mine. Man, I just I see things from a completely different perspective. I just don't think that's that's the right avenue for me to go down. John Cena just fucking threw us through the ring there. That was a hell of a no, I feel bad. Yeah. No, no, you're right. Well, yo, yo, yo, yo, first of all, don't feel bad. And again, I think this is one of those things where nowadays you walk into sensitive territory, right? And people get scared and they get defensive. And that's how arguments happen. Nobody gets hurt. I get what
Starting point is 01:12:46 you guys are saying. I totally do. You caught me at a time in my life where, you know, I'm going through some stuff. And that's just not a path I want to take. That's not saying it's wrong. That's not saying it can't be funny. And I think people need to maybe pump the brakes on comedy a little bit and be a little bit more, you know, understand that laughter is the best medicine. But I'm just saying in this case right now here, that's just not a path I want to go down. I hear you. It's just not a path. I'm not funny anyway. So I won't, I won't even try to go down that route. Yeah, let's let's transition. I'll transition, especially just not for people to click on something. Yeah, you're right. You're right. All right. I'll transition us. So peacemaker,
Starting point is 01:13:31 like we said at the beginning, go watch it HBO Mac January 13th. The first three episodes are out, then it's out every week. Transition, by the way. Yeah. Yes. I got you. I got you. The show looks like it is like you are being, you have a good sense of humor, very funny moments, but then a very serious side is that like, I'm always awed by actors who were able to switch back and forth between those two because I can act like none of us can act. How are you able to do that, you know, in the same day? Or is it something like, all right, I'm showing up today. Today I'm going to do some funny scenes. Tomorrow we're going to do some more serious scenes. Amen. You just sold yourself way short because in the same conversation we've had in
Starting point is 01:14:17 what 15 minutes, we had a laugh about me wanting to fuck your belly button and we just got really serious about the nature of mortality. So don't say you can't act and don't say you can't get serious and then have jokes. I think that's why people are drawn to vulnerable performances, where someone can laugh and then someone can cry and then someone can get serious. We're doing it right now. This is happening in real time right now and I'm dressed up like a damn BC superhero. Every time you put your hands up, it's funny. I'm just trying to get more of the costume in there. So I mean, it's and I hope this conversation, you guys remember when we talked next time, be like, yo, I remember when we did that zoom and like, we did this and we laughed and you got
Starting point is 01:14:58 serious for a minute and those are those are our best times of connection when we can let our guard down. And then I hope your listeners have a have a takeaway moment. Maybe they they engage in a conversation more than just the regular gossip fodder for having a moment of three people just being real together. So you can do this because you just did it. We just laughed about your belly button. And now we're just talking about something else serious. And then we're going back to talk about a TV show. So you can do it. And that's what makes it fun. And that's what makes hopefully more people listen. I do wonder sometimes in actors, you know, they get into a very emotional, vulnerable place when they're when they're doing certain scenes. And whether or not that sticks
Starting point is 01:15:39 with you, after you're done with your day at work, you go home, you've just put yourself in a really tough place, being able to access a part of your mind and part of your body, where you're able to show like, okay, you're crying, you're doing all this stuff in front of it, you know, maybe dozens of people that are working with you. That's got to affect you probably for the rest of the day, I would imagine you can't just like snap your fingers, go home, everything's great, or maybe I'm wrong. No, I think it's so I think it's different for everybody. Which my my thing is, it just takes a lot out of just like going out of the ramp on the WWE. I go out there a ball of excitement and energy. And I'm, you know, at a peak for 25 minutes,
Starting point is 01:16:17 and I come back and I got nothing left. It's like the Seager song, every ounce of energy you try to give away. It's the same thing when you're doing it on a more nuanced scale, you're just exhausted. So I think it takes, at least for me, it takes good people around me who support and understand what I'm trying to do, who could understand if I come home exhausted, it's nothing that they did. They didn't, they didn't affect my mood, they didn't affect my trajectory and just kind of let me either, either be in it or, or vent to them or take my own process to get, to get back to, to see them. But it's the same as going out in front of a sold out house, you know, given every ounce of energy you got and coming back and just being, you've got nothing left. It's the same process.
Starting point is 01:16:57 It's just over 10, 12, 14 hour a day. I saw a quote from you recently, you said that, you know, you'll always have a tie to WWE and like, you know, maybe WrestleMania 38, you're not going to be back, but you, you're a wrestler and you feel that and it's part of your family. Oh man, I need, I'm a WWE superstar. I'm not a, you've seen any of my matches, you know, I'm not a wrestler. No, you're a superstar. Have you, so I'm, I'm a child of the attitude error. I loved it. So I killed it for you and I'm sorry. Yeah, you did. That's okay. Have you watched AEW at all? Do you think that it's good for, like competition is good here in terms of both products are just going to raise each other up because that was a lot of the attitude error was there was
Starting point is 01:17:40 competition and everything got better. And it was, you know, for a lot of people like myself, the glory days of wrestling. Yeah, I haven't watched AEW. Do I think competition is good? I think competition is great. There's internal competition within WWE about performers wanting to be champion or performers wanting to be headliners. I think whenever there's more buzz around an industry, it's good for the industry. And it forces, it forces all of us to be at our best. Because you know, if you're not, you're going to, your segment's not going to be good. Your performance is not going to be good. You may not have a future with the company you're with and repeated bad segments from the group means the company ain't going to be good, which means the,
Starting point is 01:18:19 the, the competition will succeed. So I think competition brings out the best of us. I mean, we, I, for all time going out there as a performer, I always wanted to do the best I could possibly do and certainly, you know, set the tone for wanting to be the best show between Raw and SmackDown and certainly have eyes on the segments that I was on. I was fueled by a sense of internal competition, not knowing what it's like now to be essentially in a market with a lot of different options. There's a lot of places to watch sports entertainment now, but that would only, for me, that would only fuel me even more to be the best that I can be. Yeah. I was checking out your social media before this interview to see what, what was getting you going
Starting point is 01:19:00 and I noticed that you follow 365,000 people on Twitter. Yes. That's a lot of people. Do you actually use Twitter? Do you actually like go to your timeline? Yes. Yes. I use Twitter. I use Instagram. It's tough to follow the timeline just because the amount of people I follow, but I'm trying to, I'm trying to learn more about the world. I just went into a rabbit hole following EDM dance culture and non-fungible tokens and also Twitch streamers because I know nothing about any of these avenues of the world and they're, they're just like, just like people may not know about WWE. Like, oh, isn't that the fake stuff for this happens? But there's fandom to there and there's passion to there and there's, there's performers and stories. So a lot of times we're,
Starting point is 01:19:43 we're explaining to people like, yo, check out how many people follow me. I'm, I'm really glad to say that I allow or, or 364,000 people have allowed me to follow that and I'm learning a little bit about each and every person as I go and I try to remain as diverse as I can. And I know social media is not the most positive place. So it's always, it's also an exercise in developing thick skin. I really enjoy it. Twitter only lets you follow a thousand people a day. Yeah. So do you do that yourself? Do you go through Twitter and you're, you're selecting who you follow? It is boring and it is arduous and but the end product to me is I get a, I get a greater scope of what's going on and I can learn some stuff about stuff I don't know about
Starting point is 01:20:23 and hopefully create a community. If you've seen the people I follow on Twitter, hopefully maybe you've seen some of the messages I send and I try to send some stuff that like this interview maybe will evoke some philosophical conversation. So if we can get folks from all, all across the world from, from every different place and every different culture to start asking bigger and broader questions and start talking about some, some philosophical stuff. I don't know, maybe, just maybe you can, it can balance that social media out to a little bit more positive. What's, what's one philosophical question that you've been asking yourself recently? Purpose, it origins around purpose. And I think that that's a question that
Starting point is 01:21:02 a lot of people throw that term around. And I think it's, it's a really tough question to answer. And, and I, my advice is just try not to rush it. Try to just really, you really have to look into who you are and find out who you are and a clear sense of purpose. Man, really, it's like when you ask me, you know, you're, you're, you're very kind and saying you're John Cena, you can do anything you want. What do you choose? Well, a lot of things have to coincide with my values and certainly it has to fuel my purpose. So that's that just from philosophy, like a, not why are we here as a human species, but why are you here as a human being looking at that question? Why are you here? And it could be anything. And a lot of times people
Starting point is 01:21:42 come up with an answer that's really fun for other people to hear that isn't really the answer that, that is the real answer. And I think taking an honest look at ourselves and, and maybe asking ourselves that question of why are we here? That's a heck of a start. All right. So John, we appreciate you coming on. Ever go check out peacemaker on HBO max. My last question was simply it's January. Most people are trying to dye it and get in shape. I literally wrote this down. How do you get your muscles to look so awesome? That, that is a piece of dialogue that should be in peacemaker. And I'm going to tell James Gunn to write that in the season too. Need it. We need the tips. How do you get them to look so awesome?
Starting point is 01:22:20 It's a, the tips are easy. The application is hard. Make, make good choices and be consistent. And that's, that's absolutely it. Don't make it a January diet. Make it a lifestyle change. Make good choices and be consistent. That's it. I'm like, when you say that, it's like, I go through my roll decks in my brain and I'm like, I am so inconsistent and I make terrible choices. What if you just get, yeah, what if, what if you're consistently inconsistent? So you go on the crash diets and then you get like one, yeah, like a week per month where your muscles look really good. And then the other three weeks, they look like crap. Well, then, then you find, you find yourself in a bit of a conundrum where you may look good, but on the inside,
Starting point is 01:22:58 you may be really unhealthy. So there's also a balance you got to find too. That's a great tip. All right. WWE superstar, John Cena, and also a star of peacemaker out January 13th, HBO Max. Guys, thank you for having the patience to get a little deep with me today. And also thank you for helping me process the loss of a close friend. The guy, his name was Ronnie Bullington. He drove my tour bus for 12 years. We lost him on Sunday. And he is an honorary member of the Cena family, having spent over 10 Christmases at my house, forming wonderful bonds with my mom, my whole family. My nieces loved him. I'll always love him, but we were open and vulnerable men. We talked openly with each other. He knew I loved him. I knew he loved me. The world was a better
Starting point is 01:23:52 place with him in it and we're going to miss it. So thanks. Thanks for giving me a second to reflect on that. I appreciate it. It's a beautiful message. And I think it's, I mean, I'm very, very sorry for your loss because, you know, we work in an industry where we, we work long hours with people and the people you work with really do become your family. And it's a bond that maybe people who work nine to five don't fully understand sometimes, but when you grind those late hours, it's more than just coworkers. Yeah, especially as a traveling entertainer, you know, I'm, he's pretty much my roommate for 12 years. So we, we had a man, we had a wonderful time. And I'm looking back on our time with a lot of smiles and my heart hurts, but it's filled with
Starting point is 01:24:32 joy at the same time, knowing that he was in my life. So I'm a better man for it. Yeah. Someone told me last time I went through a tough experience like that. You'll start to, you, when you start, when you think about them, there'll be a time when you smile before you feel sad. And that might be six months from now, it might be a year from now, but once you reach that point, then you can kind of make a little bit of peace and, and start to have that be, you know, his memory is now a positive thing in your life, but hope, you know, all the best to you and your family. And that's great advice. And like I said, I just appreciate you guys. So thank you very much. Absolutely. Thanks, John.
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Starting point is 01:26:29 and I think this team could make a run. People laugh at me. I put up a tweet today. I really think the Steelers could beat the Chiefs. You know, I got laughed at, humiliated on Twitter, but I really believe it. If the defense steps up and if they can contain, you know, Mahomes and Hale. Hale is not 100%. Let's not forget. True. And Kelsey, the Chiefs are too for a bad game, man. They really are just due for one. You know what the key to the game is? You got to heat Mahomes up. You got to heat him up. Yep. If you can hit him. If you can heat him up. Yep. Break him in half. Yeah. I agree. Just make him think about you. For sure. That's when you're running into problems with Mahomes is when he's not even thinking about the rush. When he starts thinking
Starting point is 01:27:14 about it, he's liable to do weird stuff. Oh, exactly. And for anybody who's been watching the NFL this year or the past three years, let's say three years, the past three years, the best defensive player in football has been T.J. Watt. It's a fact. I agree. I agree. Aaron Donald too. This year, T.J. Watt, he's my defensive player of the year. Aaron Donald's win rate is very, very high. Yeah. You know I have a vote. I know you have a vote, but I'm just saying, like, you look at the numbers, even last year's numbers, T.J. Watt beats him in five out of seven categories. You do have, you are such a Die Hard Steelers fan. I knew that from like the second I met you because I think we were maybe an hour into our relationship and you were giving me
Starting point is 01:27:57 stats about how T.J. Watt beats Aaron Donald and all the important numbers. And that's a great fan, like characteristic to have. Just walk around with info in your head to get into debates. And knowing it's not really debatable because it's a real number. Right. You close it. We watched Sunday Night Football. We were here in the studio. We were all watching your stream. Yeah. Confirmed you and I, there were tears in your eyes. Yeah, I was crying. Just a little. I was crying, you know, when Herbert got the two-point conversion, I mean, I just started like tearing up and I'm like, this is it. This is how Ben's going to go out and it's not fair, you know what I mean? And I'm so happy, you know, I even donated to Carlson's
Starting point is 01:28:38 charity. He has a bunch of charities. I love that. I even donated 50 bucks to his charity. Ultimate fan move. Out of respect, you know what I mean? Didn't the bills build like an entire wing of a hospital for Andy Dalton? I think they saved like a million children. Yeah, incredible. It's crazy, you know? But yeah, dude, like I said, big cat. I think this team is, you know, the story of the Steelers this year and even last year, they just find a way just to win. They just find a way to win. And I think Tomlin does a good job of rallying in the boys around them. And I wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of Steelers fans that would be like, oh my god,
Starting point is 01:29:15 I'll be so surprised if the Chiefs lose. I won't be surprised. No. I won't, because they're due. They're due for a bad game. Yeah, I love the confidence. I like it too. When you were watching it on Sunday night, were you thinking like, this is rigged? Did you actually think- 100%. 100%. I'm just curious to know, because like there was so much weird stuff going on during the game, I could see why somebody would be like, this isn't adding up right now. But from your perspective, why do you think the NFL at the time, why did it feel like the NFL was out to get the Steelers? Because this is exactly why I'll tell you this. When there was a part in the game where it was almost not impossible for it to
Starting point is 01:29:57 the scores match up and be right. And then just how somehow, some way in the fourth quarter, the most important quarter of a football game, the scores magically are going to line up if this team gets a touchdown and a two-point conversion. It's like, wow, it's rigged. This is rigged for ratings. This is rigged for views. That does happen in football. Overtime does happen. It does, but how many- let's say this. How many times does it happen this year, you think? Overtime? Did the Steelers go in? Yeah, the Steelers tied a game. We tied a game. They tied a game. But if you break down every single NFL game. Sunday? Yeah. Well, over time, there was, yeah, that game. No, we tied against the Lions. Yeah, but no, you went in overtime against the Ravens too.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yeah, the Ravens. But I'm saying, how many times would you say this year in total in NFL? I would have to tie my head. I don't know, like seven? No, probably like 15. I was just saying, maybe Jake will look up right now. I probably, I would say like 25? No, I'd say. It felt like one a week, maybe a couple extra. It did come down to the end though. To be fair, there were two seconds left on the clock in overtime when that field goal went through. And it seemed like the Chargers were content to get a tie. The Raiders were content to get a tie until that timeout just kind of like shook everything up real quick and kind of snap people out of whatever fog they were in. Yeah, I don't agree. I think they were going to try the field goal regardless.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Do you know what's funny is the reason why there's in the playoffs is because of a tie. For sure. Yeah, the one saved them. If they had lost that game to the Lions, saved them, yeah. The Raiders and the Chargers would be in the playoffs. Good point, yeah. The tie saved them. The tie did save you. Yeah, and I read a good stat today. Every team that the Chiefs lost to, can you name them or no? Bills? Yeah. They lost the Chargers. Titans. Did the Browns beat them? Titans. What about the Ravens? The Bills, the Titans, the Ravens, the Chargers. Who beat all those teams? The Steelers. Steelers are 4-0 against those teams.
Starting point is 01:31:59 We know they lost five games though. The Bengals, did you beat the Bengals? Oh no. You didn't get to the end of the stat. That's okay, it happens. But we played good against all these teams. 4-1. That's an 80% chance you're going to win. Yeah, exactly. If you do the, I don't know what that would be. You know, these guys I'm getting my stats from lately. They're just not, they're just wrong stats. I mean, what about the stat I said the other day? It was a fake stat. He was like, Jerry was like, you know, Big Ben is the longest tenured quarterback of all time for a franchise. I was like, didn't Tom Brady play for the Patriots for 20 years?
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah. And it was just a fake stat. I mean, it's the hashtags on Instagram. Oh, like Steelers stats? Yeah, like I just put the hashtag Steelers and it just, I mean, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, it's making you look bad. And you're a smart guy. Yeah, it's a fake news. And now it's definitely, some's right. The bank goes like, that literally happened last week. I just read that on the hashtag Steelers. And the Steelers not only lost to them, they lost to them twice.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It's just ridiculous. All right. Well, we're feel good. I'm excited. Sunday night, we'll be there with you. Yep. Tune in, gambling cave. I just want to know who's going to be at this. Brendan won't be there. Cool. That was your question. You got a problem with Brendan?
Starting point is 01:33:22 No, I just, I don't know. I don't have a problem with him. I'm just, it's got bad vibes. It seems like there's been like, you've been hot and cold. Yeah. I mean, because it's just, it's just weird. Some days are good. Some days are bad. And now I'm at the point where I just don't want to even be around that. Yeah. So it's all bad. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:33:39 All right. Let's do some questions. So lunch pail and guys on checks. Oh, your mic's not on. Hold on. U.S. Postal Service mail carrier here. Yes. I wear an actual blue collar. Happened back during MLB season. I got some sick time coming to me.
Starting point is 01:33:59 So I take two days. Go to a day game and night game. Post a pic of me at a game on Instagram. Co-worker screenshots the pic and sends it to the supervisors. Now I'm in hot water facing a two year probation. This is a dude I've had post work beers with on multiple occasions. Question is how to handle things with the dirtbag trader with respect, proud union member local 377.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah. This happened to guys at my job all the time. It's in our, it's in our, at least our rule book. If you call out sick, the supervision at any time can come to your house and check, and check if you're still there. It's against their policy to pretty much go out if you're on, on sick time. You know what I mean? Go out in public or whatever. Unless it's for a doctor's appointment, you have to be home. So I mean, I would say just don't put any, I mean,
Starting point is 01:34:48 in the past I've called out sick and, and done things, but I don't post it. You know what I mean? Yeah. So this is what, where it kind of comes into play, where his coworker ratted him out. Yeah. So it's not like the supervisor went to his house. So I wasn't there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Got in trouble. Like that's kind of a. Snitch, yeah. Man card, man law. I think my union's a little different. We wear, we wear stickers all over our hard hats and say, we don't work with rats and sounds like this guy works with rats. Got to flush them out.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Got to set a trap up. Yep. Hey guys, PFT got me into this situation. So y'all are responsible for getting me out of it. My husband has trained our three year old daughter to say, you're absolutely right boom instead of a simple yes. Almost exclusively. It's to the point that when anyone asks her a yes or no question,
Starting point is 01:35:36 she replies with, you're absolutely right boom, including her first dentist appointment, her grandparents, Santa at the mall, et cetera. I've got about six months until she goes to preschool. Send help. No, that's a football gal. This is awesome. You're absolutely right boom.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It's a good thing. It must sound so cute to hear a kid say it too. Yeah, I never heard a kid say that. Yeah, that's got to be the cutest thing ever. Maybe send us a video, email it. We don't want to put you on blast, but it would be nice to see because that's very funny. That's the best way to get her to stop saying it
Starting point is 01:36:03 is for you to take a video of it and then for you to share it online. Yeah, exactly. By the way, Jake got us most overtime games in NFL regular season history, 25 in 2002. This year was fourth most with 21. Wow, it's a lot. So 21 overtime games. So it happens.
Starting point is 01:36:20 It happens. But it's rigged. Was it only two ties? How many ties were there this year? There's only one. Just one. Yeah, Steelers. Yeah, Steelers.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Did the Steelers? No, they didn't tie last year. All right, next question. Hey Jersey Jerry, when I was at work, I had a coworker throw a can full speed up my head and then go ballistic all because I called him by his name. How do I proceed to build my relationship with him and coexist? Tough one.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know who this is about. But I would just say for now, I just say, stay away. Everybody deserves a second chance in life. You know what I mean? Everybody. And for a guy like me, I've had multiple chances to turn my life around. I'd say give this guy a chance and let him prove everybody wrong
Starting point is 01:37:03 and get the help he needs and then maybe down the line. You know, you hear stories of people hating each other for years and then one day something clicks and they become best friends. You know, so I could see a scenario like that happen in here. Also, sounds like, again, we don't know who we're talking about here, but sounds like it might be a little fallback plan being in major leagues. Sounds like he's got a cannon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Yeah, I would also just add that one day you might look back at this and actually see this as being one of the most important days of your life. Where it's like, hey, we both got to grow from this and we came back so much stronger. I wouldn't be surprised if in a year these guys are, I'd say, you know, going on vacation together with their families. Oh, you know what this is about? I think this is the office storyline with Andy Bernard, when he had to go to management training.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Or when he punched a hole in the wall. Anger management training. Yeah, that, you know what? That's funny. That's what it is. He came back. You tried to trick us on this one. You didn't stop going by the Nard dog.
Starting point is 01:38:03 You just went by Andy. I just thought it was interesting that, you know, Hank, oh, sorry, I was going to. Okay. Not name names. Where was Hank? That's all I'm saying. Hank was prevented this from happening.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Well, it was 10 a.m. Hank would have been there. Hashtag where was Hank? Where was Hank? What's up, boys? I'm quitting my current job that is strictly commission based, but I've heard from other coworkers that quit that they don't get paid for this. Okay. He wrote this wrong.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I've heard from other coworkers that quit, that they didn't get paid for the sales they had made during the pay period they quit in. My boss even said in reference to a girl that quit after vacation, we knew she was quitting, so we didn't pay her. I get paid on the 20th and it'll be about 1700. Any advice on what I should do? Thanks, Big Cat, PFD, Hank, my boy Billy and Jerry in advance. It sounds like you got to wait till the 20th.
Starting point is 01:39:00 This is pretty easy. But then you run into the situation where you put off your next check that you're not going to be paid for. Stop working, but stay at your job physically, stay there. Like show up to work. Actually, what you should do is you should take vacation, because it's January, you know, it's January, so you've probably got a lot. Take a vacation from the 12th to the 20th, show up, quit, get your check.
Starting point is 01:39:26 I also think that all you need to do here is just send a letter that you can even write it yourself, but then like make a fake name at the end and then put attorney at law at the end. Yeah, there you go. And all they need to see is like, oh, this person knows a lawyer. Okay, because by law they have to pay you. Of course, yeah. You've earned that money already. They're not doing you a favor by giving you the money that you've earned.
Starting point is 01:39:48 You're entitled to that legally. So let's fucked up that they, let's fucked up. A lot of companies do that. Just threaten them with legal recourse or just let the person know that you are in touch with the lawyer, that you are familiar with your rights. Hit us back with the name of the company. Jersey Jerry will do a rant for you. Oh, yeah, I will.
Starting point is 01:40:05 He'll get in his car and he'll fucking blast these guys. I put people out of business. That's just what I do. Jiffy Loob's never been the same. Nope. Nope. Look at their stuff. That was very funny talking about the air filter.
Starting point is 01:40:15 It is, man. It's true. Yeah. They always try to get you. Always. Sup, fellas. Questions for Jerry. What's your opinion on the Elevators Technician Union?
Starting point is 01:40:25 I'm currently second on the list and been waiting on a call since July of last year. Any advice would be helpful. One of the best unions there is, Elevator Union. Really? Biggest money you could make. One of the best unions there is. Wow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Yep. They, like this guy's first year, he'll easily make probably 120, 125 first year. I mean, you're talking about guys that make over 200, 250 a year. Do you think people in the Elevators Union, do you think they just never take the stairs out of principle? I would assume so, yeah. Right. I wouldn't take stairs.
Starting point is 01:40:56 They see a set of stairs, they're like, no. No. Either that or they know all the dirty shit that goes into the Elevator Maintenance and they know the buildings to not take the Elevator Maintenance. So if you see an Elevator Repair Guy taking the stairs, you follow that guy. It's like the people that wear the bomb shirts that say like, bomb technician, if you see me sprinting away, run with me. It is funny to think like stairs are, you know, like stairs where newspapers,
Starting point is 01:41:19 elevators are internet. Yep. Just fucking out of business. Yep. Now, if you're in the Elevator Union, are you certified to work on both Otis and Throcen Krupp units or is that just one? I don't know. I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I was never in the Union. I never had friends in the Union, but I've heard stories about friends, friends and friends, family members in the Union. They make a lot, a lot of money. Yeah. I got a friend that got into the Elevator Union, had a party that threw like a giant party once they got the news they were in because you're set for life. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Yeah. At that point. And he's probably well off right now. He's doing good right now. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. My grandfather, my great grandfather was an Elevator guy.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Yeah. One fell on his head, killed him. I, you know, I like Barstow. I like everything this company does. You know, I still got those thoughts though. What? Going back? Union?
Starting point is 01:42:04 Still got those thoughts. We could unionize. I don't know if Dave doesn't like that. Yeah. That's a joke. Yeah. Billy, go ahead. Last one.
Starting point is 01:42:16 This is more of a question. If the Steelers lose Sunday, if the Steelers lose Sunday, would Jerry do a live stream of him doing a sink full of dishes? Oh. If they lose. No, if they win. Yeah. I think that's, that's, that's.
Starting point is 01:42:41 So if you don't know, Jerry's, Jerry's internet stardom started with Blake Bortles, who's a very good friend of ours, ruining the Steelers season, and Jerry was screaming at his mom, you won't find me doing nothing. No dish, no dishes, no nothing. You'll find me hanging from the ceiling. Yeah. And so I think if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, then you do dishes for a week. Oh, I do dishes for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Did you do any dishes that week? That, I probably did that week because my mom would have just snapped on me. But I definitely. That's always an empty threat. Yeah. I definitely didn't do them that day though, I'll be honest. I'll be honest, but definitely during that week, you know, I cook a lot, so. So your mom, you and your mom had like a stare down a game of chicken, like will Jerry kill
Starting point is 01:43:24 himself or will he do the dishes first? She was pissed, she was pissed that that got released. But yeah, I mean, I still go crazy, man. I don't, I try not to let myself get to that point anymore. But uh. I just cried. That's not true at all. Yeah, like you just, she's upstairs, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:43 Out of respect, I try to tone it down. And the gambling cave, you go crazy. Yeah, because I'm not home, you know what I mean? But like, even if you notice in the live video, I was trying to stay quiet for the most part because I didn't want her coming downstairs and just snapping. Yeah. Do you make, um, you make bargains with the universe going into games? Like, you know, just telling.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Oh, like I do anything. I'll do this if, you know, if we can just pull off this one win, one last win. Like my, my dream, like, like if I could have one dream and one thing come true, it would, it wouldn't be for me to be a millionaire. Wouldn't be for my family to be set for the rest of their life. It would be for Big Ben to go out like the bus did with a ring. You know what I mean? Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I'd love that. I'd do anything. I'd do anything for that. Anything. Beautiful. Um, all right. Well, Jerry, thank you. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Sunday night will be with you. Let's do numbers. Let's guess numbers. Yeah, 66. What are you not, how do you not? Eight. Seven. No, 66.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Okay. Six. I'll guess seven. Would this be their seventh title too? Yeah. So, Seventh Seed. Big Ben, you know, a sign that I had. Last time they won, they won, they were the sixth seed.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Yeah. This time is the Seventh Seed. Steelers have six rings. Yeah. Number seven, Big Ben, seven Super Bowls. Seventh Seed. Seventh Seed. Number seven on the uniform.
Starting point is 01:45:07 What's the day of the Super Bowl? What's the date? February 7th. No. I know, I just made that one up. All right. 13. I'll go seven.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Do I need to be suspended? I'll leave it up to the committee. I think last week. Jake, you don't self-report. No, you can't self-impose punishments. That's what I did last week. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, you have to, you have to-
Starting point is 01:45:28 I'm suspended. No tap drawn. No, no, no, no, no. Just notes up. Yeah, and just notes up. We've suspended enough people today. Memes, three. 44, eight notes up tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:45:43 No. Doesn't count. Another redraw. 42. 42 almost got up there. I'm seeing 69. If this is seven now after that false start, I'm putting everything on the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Where is that? Is that seven? It's a one. It's a one. Number one. Jerry, you're number one. All right. See everyone on Friday.
Starting point is 01:46:18 They use giant rats, diffuse landmines. Love you guys. We're talking away. Now I know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway. Today's another day to find you. Shying away. I'll be coming for your love of cake.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Shying away. I'll be coming for your love of cake. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone after your cheek. Needless to say, I ought to say this. But I'll be stolen away. It's only learning to fight for something.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry. Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone after your cheek. All the things that you say, yeah, easy to like them. Just leave my worries away. You're all the things I thought to remember.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway. Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone after your cheek. Take on me.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I'll be gone after your cheek.

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