Pardon My Take - Josh Allen + Bills OC Brian Daboll, Grit Week Finale, WingNutz Creator Ed + Mt Rushmore Of Hotel Moves
Episode Date: August 20, 2021We finish Grit Week live from the Knights of Columbus in Buffalo where we have found Wing Nirvana. Recapping the week plus our new song with Benny The Butcher was created in the studio Wednesday Night... (00:02:41 - 00:19:23). WingNutz creator Ed joins the show to tell us how he created the perfect wing and hopes for the Bills this year (00:19:23 - 00:29:09). Josh Allen and Bills OC Brian Daboll join the show from Bills Camp where we talk Offense, what to expect in the upcoming season, Dabs learning from Belichick and Saban plus Josh Allen owes us 15 million dollars (00:29:09 - 01:00:50). We finish with Mt Rushmore of Hotel Moves and Fyre Fest of the WeekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we are still in Buffalo, Grit Week 2021, coming to a close.
We have Josh Allen on the podcast with offensive coordinator Brian Dabel.
You heard a beep in the background, we'll explain that in a second.
We're at a very special location recording today's show.
We're going to do a recap of everything that's happened in Grit Week.
We're going to do a Mount Rushmore of hotel moves, things you do at a hotel.
We have Firefest of the week.
We have a very special guest, Ed from Wingnuts as well.
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It's part of my take because I'm going to go to sports.
Part of my take presented by Coors Light today is Friday, August 20th and we are recording
in a very special location.
We are at the Knights of Columbus on Kenmore Ave in Buffalo, New York at Wing Nuts, our
official favorite wing place of all time.
It is Grit Week finale.
We still have a couple interviews coming up next week that we filmed, but Grit Week finale.
We are here.
We're sitting at a table.
We're going to go to a hundred wings boys.
How are we feeling?
I'm feeling great.
I woke up this morning thinking about chicken wings still, and I had the thought as I was
getting ready, packing in my bags.
I wonder if it's a crazy move to come back to Wing Nuts today.
So we were out in Orchard Park talking to Josh Allen, Brian, Dave, and after words we
were like, where are we going to go?
There's a great wing place right nearby, but we figured, you know what, like it's calling
us.
Yes.
When are we going to come back to Wing Nuts next time?
I didn't want to leave the city of Buffalo
without having it a second time.
The city of Buffalo is,
it's the greatest place on earth.
We went to the meet and greet yesterday.
It was like two and a half hours straight
of meeting people, taking pictures, and it was awesome.
And we, like, I don't know what it is about Buffalo,
something special.
It must be in the wing sauce,
but there's just something special about the people here,
and it's so much fun to be here.
A great finale for a great week.
I think are we all, like, still a little bit like,
you know, we're on the road.
Everyone feeling okay?
Road life, I'm feeling great.
Yeah.
We were at the studio until like 1 a.m.
I slept on the bus, so I'm feeling gritty as hell.
Yeah, so yeah, we went to, we did the whole Buffalo,
because we did, we-
It's like, that's how Native Americans used to do it.
Yeah, we did everything.
Every part.
We took every part of Buffalo.
We did the wings, we did Josh Allen, we did Bill's Camp,
and then we recorded a new track with Benny the Butcher
in the studio, which would be out in a couple weeks.
That, yeah, there was a moment where I was like,
I should have been in bed three hours ago,
but I'm here recording a song with Benny the Butcher,
this fucking rules.
Benny the Butcher is Buffalo.
He's the nicest guy in the world.
We sat down, we recorded, we got to see him
do his entire creative process,
which was him coming into the studio.
Listen to the track, which I was a little bit nervous
about that because, like, we just came in with a track
that me and Arian put together,
and did not have any idea if it was gonna be
something that he would vibe with.
He walked into the engineer's room, five seconds,
he's like, yeah, I can fuck with this.
And that's all that he needs.
So he takes like five seconds to hear the track,
sits down, writes it in his head,
steps into the booth, like 30 seconds, and he's done.
Absolutely nails it.
Everybody's like, holy shit, we just,
this is better than watching Picasso paint,
and then we're like, who's next?
And then Big Cat has to follow up Benny the Butcher.
It sucked listening to his flow,
and then I have negative flow.
But it was an incredible experience.
Sasson roamed on the track as well.
Two people not on the track,
because we care about Jake and Billy.
So there was a dog in the studio,
that's why we didn't bring Jake and Billy.
If we walked into a studio to record a rap song,
everyone would be like, who brought the cop?
So we didn't bring Billy.
What did you, so Jake and Billy were the only two
who were left behind, and they went on a date last night?
You guys went on a date in Buffalo.
Yeah, we went to a bar, had some nice Coors lights,
mountains were blue, grabbed some sandwiches,
and it was a good time.
Anything remarkable, any wing challenges
that Billy failed at?
No, we did some Rubins, some really good Rubins.
It was a great time.
So when we told the people at the Bill Stadium
where you guys went, they just immediately laughed.
They were like, yeah, that's where we used to go
when we were 17 years old.
Uh-oh, where'd you guys go?
It was just like a high school bar.
This place called JP Fitzgeralds.
Oh, nice, nice.
Tyler at the bar.
Do they have Flair on the wall?
No.
Like Waiting, what is that?
They had the movie Waiting, yeah.
Shenanigans?
Shenanigans, yeah.
You have to have a minimum like 12 pieces of flair.
Austin's some major league baseball on a Wednesday night.
Oh, that's great.
We were watching the Yankees game.
You were watching the Yankees game?
Wow.
So wait, this morning, so I think the reason Big Cap
brought it up was because this morning you guys were like,
boy, do we have a story to tell you.
You were giggling.
No, that was Billy hyping up.
We said pretty standard conversation.
Well, you guys had a lot of fun.
On last night, we wanted to show you guys
we had a little fun too.
What did you guys talk about?
Just talked about like goals.
How we got here.
Guess what?
Let's talk about goals.
What goal did you share, Jake?
I mean, we all have goals.
Yeah.
Give it to us.
We sure do.
What was I would imagine, Jake's like,
my goal is Sunday night football,
broadcasting Sunday football.
And Billy's like, I just want to squat 350.
Put too much along those lines.
Jake's like, I want my mom to be proud of me.
Billy's like, I want the biggest frog.
Yeah.
Jake's like, I just want to be able to broadcast
my alma mater in a basketball game.
Go to the Dome, Syracuse, the coming home moment.
And Billy's like, I just want to figure out
the right mix of creatine and whey powder so that I
don't get the bloat.
Did we nail it?
Did we just have a problem?
You did miss a great dog last night, though.
Yeah.
Benny the Butcher's dog.
It's like a nine week old golden doodle.
And his name's Sawyer.
And he made sure to tell us it's not like Tom Sawyer.
It's named after the gun.
Sig Sawyer.
Sig Sawyer.
So yeah, he's got a dog named after a gun.
Yep.
It is actually funny finding ourselves in those situations
once every couple of years where we're in a studio
with professional engineers, professional producers,
and maybe the best rapper alive, Little Sass, and Benny.
Yes.
And then Roan, who's really good.
And then me and Big Cat just parachute in once every two
years, and we're like, yeah, we're rappers for the day.
So bad.
My flow is so bad.
I think it's going to end up being a really good song.
It's a crisis of confidence every time
I have to get in front of a mic in a rap studio.
I'm not a drug guy, but it would have been disrespectful
for me to not partake in the party favors.
And you're still high.
I'm still high.
A little bit.
A little bit.
I could tell your brain hasn't turned on fully.
So I was talking to one of his guys,
and they were talking about going out to the California
and hanging out with Snoop, and how they smoked with Snoop.
And I was like, I've heard that his stuff is really good.
He gives to people, basically to alpha them,
to knock them out and be like, look, I'm Snoop.
I'm still your dad.
And he was like, nah, it was just as good as ours.
So whatever I had last night, yeah.
Hell yes.
Good percentage that I am not fit to operate.
Buffalo.
All right.
So anything in the sports world.
The only thing I had two stories that we could touch on.
One is Max Kellerman is out.
So officially, like Stephen A. Smith,
I think Skip officially has won this breakup,
because Stephen A. Smith is now moving on from the rebound.
So it was a five-year rebound or whatever.
Yeah, they were both rebound situations.
But I think that Shannon has actually grown into being,
like, you know, like Skip's keeping him around for a little bit.
Like, I don't mind this.
Yeah.
I listened to the Undisputed podcast the other day,
love him on FS1.
He's the man.
It was actually a really entertaining show.
Yeah.
I actually downloaded the podcast,
and I was like, this is good.
I'm into it.
So I think that Stephen A. Smith is basically, like,
now he's moved on to getting into a battle with Mike
Greenberg over, like, who's man's?
Is it ESPN?
Who's Batman?
Who's Robin?
Right.
So they're getting rid of Kellerman.
And it's going to be, I guess, just a rotating.
They're not getting rid of him, though, right?
Well, no, they're moving him on to the greeny slot
in the morning on the radio show.
Yeah.
But it's just going to be like a rotating cast of characters
for Stephen A. Smith to just, like,
step up and mow down verbally.
He's just going to dominate everyone.
Come on, come on.
It's like almost an ESPN hazing, which they do also.
It's cannon fodder.
Yeah.
Whoever the new guy is, it's like, get abused and dominated
by Stephen A. Smith.
Put down, like, the dog whisperer holding, like,
with his hand on your neck on live television.
Yes.
So yeah, I don't know who they're going to fill it up with.
Like, I really don't.
They need to bring Skip back.
Skip is not, he's not skipped a beat, no pun intended.
But he, I saw this morning, he was up at 2 AM
and he was tweeting and Instagramming at LeBron saying,
I'm up at 2 AM, about to get my first workout in,
where are you at LeBron?
Well, Skip's also on tilt from the whole Urban Meyer doing
the Wesley Snipes to New Jack sitting on Tivo.
It's been a tough week, yeah, yeah.
And then the other one was Andy Dalton saying
that it's his time now.
So that's a nice guy.
Nice guy, Andy Dalton.
It's his time.
I still can't believe he said that, but whatever.
You have to say it, though, because.
What do you expect him to say?
Well, what the Bears did is the exact same thing.
I don't know, like, Justin feels better than me.
They did the exact same thing with.
Like, Clinton, yeah.
Yeah, where they're like, hey, we're going to get you in,
because we want you to be the starter.
So he has to at least, like, pretend
like he's still the starter for a while
and then hope it all works out after the fact.
But yeah, he's, you're right, he's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
Great guy.
Nothing bad to say about Andy Dalton.
Nice guy.
I wish him the best possible outcome as a backup quarterback.
It's also trying to figure out it's
the second to last week of the preseason.
Is this dress rehearsal week?
I think, well, so we were just we were just interviewing
Josh Allen and Brian Dable.
Josh is not playing in the game on Saturday,
so I don't know if it is.
Yeah, but I also think that's the Mitch move,
where it's like, this is revenge game for Mitch,
but we want him to play against the Bears.
I think that I think dress rehearsal might be gone.
We had I'm so confused by it.
Yeah, because maybe three they're not going to play,
probably maybe the first half.
We need someone who's really good at fractions
to figure out like, what does three quarters of three games
translate into 75% of three games?
I think it's like the first half of week three.
Yes, might be dress rehearsal.
Yeah, so it's it is very these are the dumbest things
that we think about, spend our time thinking about,
but they happen.
Yeah, it's very important.
All right, anything.
Some people walking in.
It was a scene you even explained.
I did coming here yesterday.
Oh yeah, why we came here.
Yeah, so yesterday we came to Wing Nuts.
Well, let's we're going to get it in here in a second.
Well, so we'll do that.
Is there anything else?
The story wise before we get it on the football teams narrowed
down to, I guess, three finalists,
but they released a list of eight finalists.
So it's amongst the Armada, the brigade, the commanders,
the defenders, the presidents, the red hogs,
the red wolves, and then the Washington does a lot of names.
It's just keep it for football.
It's eight.
So if they if they make the playoffs,
it has to stay football team.
Hank's shaking his head.
No, because you don't understand that we're a football team
and we play football.
Keep the football teams name mascots.
I'm I'm OK about the kids.
I like red hogs.
I like red wolves.
I also think that they might just say this is a fake list
and bring back sentinels.
I think they like sentinels for some reason.
They should go bullets.
But I'm down and then the only other thing
was Billy's wing video that was most disappointing video
of all time.
Has your butt.
And I was also chipping myself to death during it.
I'll save for my firefest.
OK, all right, perfect.
Any other sports stories?
Yankees are back all the way back.
I wasn't able to watch.
We're at the studio, so I get to watch.
So I haven't given my full attention yet.
So that probably had something to do with it.
Yeah, also an early who's back.
Rashid Wallace.
Yes, he joined Penny Hardaway staff
and he's reuniting with Larry Brown.
They're both assistants.
Yes, of course.
Larry Brown's on that team, too.
He just got hired this off season, too.
So that bench is crazy.
And they just got a number two recruit, Jalen Duren.
So they're relevant again.
Larry Brown is definitely a Jim Calhoun guy
who retires to go coach more basketball.
Yes.
He's never going to not coach basketball.
He's an advisor that slowly just sneaks his way
into the bench, and then next thing you know,
he's coaching the team.
But if you're a kid, why would you
say no to going to play for Penny Hardaway and Rashid Wallace?
To be awesome.
Rashid Wallace, the man.
It would be incredible.
All right, I think that's all the stories.
I mean, I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
I mean, we've been on the road.
We're going to get to our firefests.
We're going to get to our Mount Rushmore.
Anything else that we can think of that Billy?
OnlyFans is taking off explicit content,
which is sort of like McDonald's, stop selling burgers.
That's a good analogy, Billy.
Damn.
I like that.
Thank you for speaking in my terms.
That sucks.
How much money is your OnlyFans a month, Billy?
I shut it down.
Oh.
Billy Feetball.
No, I was saying how much of your subscriptions.
Yeah.
What's in your budget?
Are you just like?
Well, so it said like sexually explicit content, right?
So I don't think that nudes are always sexually explicit.
They can be beautiful.
Listen, so where does the line get drawn between like a painting
of a French girl done by Jack from Titanic,
and then just like hardcore pornography?
Where's that line?
Because you could have tasteful nudes on OnlyFans.
Yeah.
It's also just, I mean, anytime they
try to take porn off of the internet,
it's like that's what the internet was.
The driving engine behind the internet is porn.
Yeah.
It's like trying to shovel a driveway in Antarctica.
Yeah.
Like this is what it is.
If you took all the porn off the internet,
people would just not be on the internet anymore.
Or do you think it'd be like verbal meme,
like if the world didn't have porn,
and it's the city of the future?
Yes.
I think so, too.
Absolutely.
Now we're sounding like Josh McCown.
Yeah.
That's true.
You could take off in Omaha and land and where?
I think it was he took off to Detroit,
and they said, we're in Omaha.
Like what?
We're not supposed to be here.
That's what happens when you go down a rabbit hole of porn.
I'll say there's somebody that spends time out of their day
going to like film an anti-porn PSA.
Watches a shitload of porn.
Yes.
They're overcompensating for something.
If you don't watch porn, you don't go around telling people
hi, hey, my name's PFT.
I don't watch porn.
Yeah.
OK, sure.
You don't watch porn.
Not a porn guy.
Not horny.
Not a porn guy.
All right, let's try to get Ed on,
and then we're going to have Josh Allen and Brian
Dable on the show.
Again, we have a couple extra Grit Week interviews coming
next week.
So we have Mitch coming on Monday,
and then Ryan Fitzpatrick on Wednesday.
So it's a little like Grit Week, but it's after the credits
roll, and then you sit in the theater,
and it's like the funniest moments came after.
Sometimes that's the best stuff.
I don't think that there was any real rhyme or reason
to what order, whether we decided to go with Rivera first
or Fizzi first, because I think they're both great interviews.
Yeah, no, they're all great.
Yeah, it's going to be amazing.
Should we get Alicia, too?
I think that's only two of them, so they've got to make the way.
Somebody's got to work the fires.
Yeah, gosh.
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Okay, actual breaking moves.
It's breaking moves.
Tick, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock,
tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock.
There is, yep, okay, we're going, that's great.
There's been a, there's been a cow born,
there's been a cow born named Baby Ben,
with a seven on his head.
That's sick.
Baby Ben.
That's awesome.
Hank is giving me the look, the CAP look.
That's Baby Ben.
That's Baby Ben.
But don't call Ben a cow.
But that is Baby Ben.
I'm not throwing, I'm not throwing out the hat flag, but.
You know what, yeah.
What?
I just don't, I feel like it's something I've seen before.
I know that's like a repurposed, a repurposed,
something that's, something that's been out there
that just gets thrown back.
That's okay.
It's new to me.
It's new to me.
It's new to me.
I don't think that Reddit would repurpose something.
Yeah, it's new to me.
No hat detected.
I love it.
Yeah, Jake, you want to give us one?
No cap.
Oh, yeah.
You guys asked me to.
Yeah, I know, but it still hurts.
I'm beginning to see the other side of the table.
Thank you.
When I would say things, and you guys would hear it,
I'm going through that same experience right now with Jake.
It's like a, it's like a deep in your belly.
You feel it when someone throws it.
Yeah.
It's like the people that don't have empathy
for a situation until they go through it themselves.
That's what I'm experiencing right now.
So now, now you understand Hank Liam,
and Billy hasn't even been listening,
but Hank Liam and I have been going through this
for a very long time.
The rest of the world.
Yes.
The rest of the world.
Okay, we got our guy Ed here.
So a little backstory.
So yesterday we were in Buffalo.
A listener Joe tipped me off to this place called Wingnuts.
We walked in, it's in a nights of Columbus,
so it's not even a restaurant.
It's a kitchen in the nights of Columbus.
We walked in, at first we're like,
we're in the wrong place.
This isn't a restaurant.
This isn't a place that we should be.
Then we walked in the door and we're like,
no, this is the greatest place on earth.
We're here.
And we got a bunch of wings.
We started talking to our guy Ed.
Ed and his wife, Alicia, run Wingnuts.
And we woke up this morning and said,
we got to come back.
So we're taping the podcast at the nights of Columbus
at Wingnuts and we figured we have to get Ed on
for five minutes to explain to us
how he created the greatest wing that we've ever had.
Okay, well, back in 05,
my wife and I went out for wings
and they were terrible.
And we were driving home and we're like,
how can we live in Buffalo,
the capital of the world for chicken wings
and have them be this bad?
So we decided to identify the problems
and start working on them.
And we identified three problems,
size, sauciness and crunch.
And we thought if we could get that into a wing,
we'd have a product.
So we started with a little tabletop deep fryer
in our basement and we threw in two wings
and we tried them, oh, they were terrible,
we threw them away.
And we tried two more and oh, they were horrible,
we threw them away.
And we did this over and over for a year.
Finally, we hit the texture that we serve now.
And in doing so, we were creating the sauces
and then when we were ready,
we decided to try them out on some of our friends.
So we had two or three people over to our house
on a Friday night that turned into 23 people
over to our house on a Friday night.
And we ended up busting out of our basement
and ended up in the backyard.
So we had people come to us and ask,
if I do a party, would you guys make wings for it?
And we're like, yeah.
So we ended up getting a restaurant size deep fryer
and instead of doing drop off catering,
we actually took the fryer with us to every single party
and cooked the wings on the spot.
Sometimes it was upwards of 800 in a day.
And it was very successful.
People kept asking us all over if we would do this
and we did bunch parties,
but we couldn't do anything in the winter.
So we ended up doing this for nine summers.
And then some guy came up to us and said,
I had your food at one of the parties.
I'm buying a bar and I'd like you and your wife to work
for me, make the Wingnut's wings in the Wingnut's name
in exchange for bringing people in.
And we said, yes.
And we worked there for 10 months and it was over.
The job ended and he moved or something.
But a few months later,
we were driving by the Knights of Columbus one day
and the sign outside said kitchen for rent.
So we turned around and we got an interview
and we asked them aside from renting the kitchen,
can we rent this room too?
And now we have a dining room
and we've been here for three years now.
Incredible.
And so you were thinking about maybe expanding
a little bit over the last couple of years.
I guess COVID was tough on the business.
I know you guys can't even do the gravy now
or the beef because of the prices and things like that.
Right.
But you guys were about to expand
and you know what, you can't do it just yet.
But you're still looking maybe in the future.
Oh yes.
That's the goal.
We do want to get out of here.
Even though this is like,
it's incredible to walk in here
because it felt like it's just a unique experience.
Well, Alicia and I are very quality based.
All of our food has to be top notch
or it doesn't go on the menu.
Now you guys know what the wings are like,
but her and I have a whole bunch of recipes
that are just that good.
Oh man.
The problem is we don't have the equipment in the kitchen
or the storage or the refrigeration or any of that stuff
to be able to do them all.
So all of our recipes sit in a folder
in our dresser drawer at home,
waiting for the day when we have an actual real kitchen
and a real restaurant.
I love the story behind it
because I told you this yesterday.
That's a quote from Gandhi is be the change
you want to see in the world.
And you took that and applied it to wings.
And you did a hell of a job.
They're amazing.
They are honestly the best chicken wings
I've ever had in my life.
And I've eaten probably thousands,
tens of thousands of chicken wings.
They're the best.
They're as advertised.
And we just got back from talking to Josh Allen.
We went out there.
We told him, you got to try wing nuts.
So he's going to come.
I don't know.
Like he didn't give us a timeframe.
Yeah, he's going to come.
He's going to come by.
He's going to try your wings.
Yes.
And yeah.
And if he loves him,
he's going to keep coming back.
Yes.
He's going to tell the bills too.
My prayer is that we're not sold out when he walks in.
Yes, that's true because you,
so we came here, we posted about it.
I hope that didn't like get a bunch of people,
like too many people coming here,
but we loved it.
We loved it.
After you folks were already sold out today.
Really?
And it's like two o'clock.
That's incredible.
So let's, let's end with this, the bills this year.
How are we feeling?
So you told us yesterday, your whole story,
Bill, a lifelong Buffalo guy,
bills through and through.
Is this the year?
Yep.
Okay.
Done.
Yeah.
I mean, Josh, if you can hear this,
I've, I've loved the bills my whole life
and you are the man.
So, you know, I mean, like I said,
I was at the very first game I ever played in Rich Stadium.
And it was wonderful.
And I have been a fan.
I played high school football.
So I mean, football's king.
There's no doubt about it.
Football is king.
Yes.
Yes.
And so that's the deal.
I just want Super Bowl, you know?
I mean, watching four, four in a rogo down,
I was just so horrible.
And the fourth one,
were you like this?
It's over.
I mean, yeah, you knew right away.
Yeah.
But it was the first one that killed me the most
because it was on my birthday.
Yeah.
Yeah, your birthday week.
And you know, everybody in this city
thought they were going to win it.
Yeah.
Did you watch the 30 for 30 that they produced, ESPN?
Yes.
The one with the Super Bowl?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Was that, was that hard to relive it?
Although, I mean, it also is,
it's one of those things maybe,
obviously you didn't win a Super Bowl,
but enough years have passed where it's like,
that was an incredible run.
Oh, you know, there are more Buffalo Bills
from that four Super Bowl run in the Hall of Fame
than any other team that never won a Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I couldn't be more proud of that team.
I love Jim Kelly and all those people,
saw them play live hundreds of times.
Just, you know, I went to games all the time back then.
Yeah.
And I was at the very first game,
Cornelius Bennett came out wearing 55
and you couldn't believe how fast that guy was.
Yeah.
Do you have a favorite Bill's moment of all time?
I have a favorite Bill's game.
Yeah.
The Oakland Raider AFC Championship game.
Yeah.
It was their shining moment.
That game.
In that 30 for 30, they had a bunch of clips from it
and it looked, it was like a perfect,
like cold Buffalo day
and looked like the biggest party of all time in this day.
And there was no team in the league
that was gonna be Buffalo that day.
Yeah.
The way Jim Kelly geared the no-huddle offense,
I would love to see Josh do that, you know?
Because he's got everything he needs
to just walk right through defenses
like they're not even there.
Yeah.
So that's what we need to do when you get
home field advantage for the Bill's this year.
Get him into playoffs all the way.
I don't have some snow games,
some snow football in Buffalo.
And then we'll have you cater the AFC Championship game
after party.
My goal for Wignuts would be 30 feet,
30 foot semis to the Super Bowl.
Oh, there we go.
Yes, I love that.
That's been the dream for a long time.
I love it.
Well, Ed, you're the best.
We really, I mean, we're back a second day in a row
and hopefully we'll get something going with Josh.
We'll, I want to see Ed and Alicia Wignuts to the moon
because it's that good.
I appreciate it guys.
You guys are the best and go Bill's.
Go Bill's.
Go Bill's.
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And now, here is Josh Allen and Brian Dable.
Ooh.
Okay, we now welcome on very special guests.
We are at Buffalo Bills Training Camp.
It is Grit Week 2021.
We're brought to you by Coors Light.
We have five-time Super Bowl champ and national champion,
offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills, Brian Dable.
And then we have MVP of the famous potato bowl,
Josh Allen.
You might've heard of him.
So thank you guys for joining us.
We start every interview on Grit Week with the same question.
By the way, you'll hear practice in the background.
They're like hitting sleds.
It's very gritty.
But let's start with you, coach.
Sure.
What does grit mean to you?
I'd say that guys that never give in
have a lot of toughness,
probably have faced some adversity in their life
for failure on a practice field
and really didn't let failure define them,
but more refine them, if you will,
which I think we got a lot of guys here
that kind of defined that word.
Okay, and Josh?
I'm gonna one-up you in Buffalo.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yes.
Man, a few words.
Yeah, that's simple, but I like it.
You were talking about not letting failure define you.
What if you failed so much on the football field
that you decide to start a podcast instead
talking about football?
Well, if I was making what you guys make,
that might be okay.
Yeah, it's true.
82K in episode, no big deal.
Yeah, no doubt about it.
I can see if you were a kicker, maybe,
and you tried out and made a couple field goals,
but maybe you didn't make the team,
like the podcast would be probably
where you see the one-hour, right, though,
the one face mask.
Yeah, those who can't kick podcasts.
I've heard that before.
That needs to be a T-shirt.
Actually, when I say it out loud,
that's really depressing.
So we have coached Abel for about 15 minutes,
then people are probably like,
why haven't we brought up Josh Allen
knowing us $15 million?
We're gonna get to that.
But coach, so you have coached under some incredible guys,
Sabin and Belichick, a bunch of different coaching trees.
Who's funnier, Belichick or Sabin?
They're both a little different.
I'd say Bill's kind of dry humor.
Nick'll get you some zingers in there.
I'd say Nick definitely dresses better than Bill.
That's probably the big difference between the two.
But both awesome coaches,
grateful to have the opportunity to work for him.
Bill's dry humor, though.
He does great impressions of both.
Can we get a Sabin?
Yeah, no, I should.
Honestly, if you did a Nick Sabin impression right now
and it went viral, would he kill you?
No, I don't think he would.
But I'll, I mean, this guy's more of the impression guy.
So I'll leave that to him.
But serious question about Belichick.
So you went, you were at the Patriots,
then you went with Manjini.
So you were basically Fredo.
You like, went against the family.
And then you went back to Belichick.
How did that conversation happen
when you were welcomed back into the family?
Yeah, I mean, Bill is great.
He had an opportunity to talk to him
kind of when it went down in terms of Kansas City
and had a good conversation with him.
He's the best, man.
He's a mentor of mine.
He's been awesome.
He just, you know, he called me and said,
what do you think?
And I said, yeah, that'd be a good deal.
Okay, so last Belichick question.
So when you're coaching against him,
you're coaching offense, he has his hands in defense.
Do you ever psych yourself out?
You're like, he thinks I'm going to do this.
So I'm going to do this,
but then he knows I know that he knows that.
Yeah, big cat.
I think that's pretty good deal right there.
That happens sometimes, you know?
I think that whether it's Bill
or either other guys you work with,
you're always sitting there and game planning
and thinking, shit, they're going to do this.
Nope, let's do this.
Yeah, he knows what I think I'm going to react.
So now I got to do the other thing,
but he also knows that's how I'm going to react.
Exactly right.
I'm already like coach Klein from Waterboy.
Yeah.
You give to the run.
No, you fake.
You fake fake to the running back.
Yes, that's how.
Yeah, I would just be paralyzed
and never get the play call in.
So one thing I love about your offense is,
well, I mean, especially like the,
the Hail Marys to the fullbacks.
I love those guys whenever you incorporate those.
Appreciate that.
I'd like to encourage you to run more of them,
but you do use a fullback.
That was a long night.
He called and said, hey, can we get this in?
I said, yeah, that's what you want.
So, yeah.
But I do love that you use a fullback
because I feel like it's gone to a point in football
where so many teams have said,
we're never going to have a fullback on our team.
And defensive defenses have kind of like
adjusted to that a little bit.
So if you do have more of a smash mouth element,
you do get a competitive advantage at times.
As a fan of the fullback position,
can you share with me what makes you love that so much?
Well, it gives you another lead blocker.
And then sometimes it puts defenses
into base defense, if you will.
So if you're evaluating,
let's just say you're evaluating team B,
you're getting ready to play them
and they have a fewer amount of calls in base defense,
maybe that helps the quarterback out.
Look, everything we do is to try to help this guy out.
So if that's the case, that's a good deal for us.
But fullbacks, you're right.
You look at these, you're in college and you're recruiting
and you're doing all these things.
They're a dying breed.
There's not many of them out there.
How many little kids in Peewee football
say I want to be a fullback anymore?
Yeah, it's gritty.
Are you going to run more CD formation this year?
Yeah, yeah, you're not getting me on that one.
That might be good.
Josh texted me last night, he's like,
we got to get coached with some bofas and some CD nuts.
So, all right, we'll have to figure out something else.
Your boy Johnny Ligma tried to get me on that.
Big Cat brought up Belichick and Saban.
There's also Tony Sparano.
So we were a big fan of the Wildcat formation
when it came out.
I've always thought that just the name Wildcat
made it catch on way more than it would have
if it was called something stupid.
But hearing Wildcat, it was like, oh,
I want to try to run that.
When you were working with him, I think that was past when
that was a-
Yeah, I got there after.
I got there after with him when they had Ronnie Brown
and those guys, but go ahead, sorry.
I was just going to say, did he ever look at you like,
maybe just put one Wildcat play in this weekend?
Yeah, no, Tony was the best.
God rest his soul.
He was an awesome man.
I'll tell you what, there's a little carnival up here.
It's kind of big.
There's a little church carnival.
There's a lot of people that go to it,
beer tent and little things like that.
High school reunion from probably 1970 to 2010, right?
So he comes up and visits me in the summer.
He's like, let me go to this.
He's got this dry voice.
Let me go to this carnival with you.
So I bring the carnival and there's a bunch of people
from Buffalo, my hometown, some towns around there.
And no one really knows who he is.
And he had a great time, right?
So we're in a pre-season game and I'd call a play
and he'd be like, like, you don't want that, Tony?
Like, I'll do something different.
No, go ahead.
It hit, maybe we'd catch it and run 10 yards.
He wouldn't say anything.
I'd call it again, minus two.
I knew that was going to happen.
So we hit another one.
He gives me and we score.
I think it was to Reggie and I'm on the field, you know,
screaming, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he knows I was kind of giving it back.
And he goes, hey, Dave's, I'm not one of your Q of H buddies,
you know, like he was at this deal.
So he was a great guy, man.
God bless his soul.
I miss him a lot.
All right, so Josh, we always talk to you about, you know,
your play, it's always so electric,
but you usually have once a game to smash every button play,
where it's like you avoid a sack,
you're like falling down, you're throwing the ball.
So I want from your perspective what's going through your head.
And then I want from Coach's perspective
what's going through your head when that play comes out.
Well, really my perspective is just try to make a play,
not like, again, when I get in those situations
where I'm 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage,
I'm like, I can't take a sack here.
Like I got to do whatever I can to get out of this.
So that's really the whole main thing behind it.
Like I'm just trying not to put ourselves
in a negative situation.
You know what they say,
negative times a negative is positive.
So that's kind of my mindset.
Wait, wait, I'm trying to do the math real quick.
Negative times a negative.
It's positive.
So if you're having a really shitty play,
if you do something even shittier.
Yeah.
It usually turns out to be good.
Exactly.
That makes sense.
Yeah, exactly.
It works out most of the time, right?
Yeah, I got full confidence in him.
So look, there's going to be some of those plays
and that's what really makes him a good player too.
You know, he'll have a bad one and he knows it.
Probably early in his career,
I got a little bit more frustrated with him
when we were first starting out.
You know, he's in field go range.
He gets a sack.
I'm screaming at him before the plays,
even though he's looking up at me underneath the pile.
But you know, part of what makes him a really good football
player is he's instinctive.
And I would never want to take that away from him.
So we get, you know, sometimes there's
going to be some bad plays in there.
And it's how do we respond and rebound.
And he knows I got a lot of faith and confidence in him.
And you know, he makes the right decision most of the time.
Yeah.
How is Phillip in?
No.
You guys are good.
I mean, right back to back, that's good.
I mean, you've got to come stronger than that, fellas.
What the hell?
You look like all the guys on a team
because when he walks around outside on the practice field,
I mean, no one's even talking to him.
So I'm not even going to try with Imagine Dragons.
No, that's all right.
Yeah, that one.
Keep them rolling.
Keep them rolling.
We'll give you some good ones when we get out of here.
Up your game a little bit.
I did read that you were Brett Farve's quarterback coach for.
Yeah.
What's that like?
Awesome.
Being Brett Farve's quarterback coach,
are you just like, can you just throw one fewer
interception of the game and we'll be good?
So what do you hit me for?
What do you want to do?
No, I don't want to tell that one.
No, he was awesome.
It was a brand new system for him, right?
So he had played in the West Coast with Mike and all those guys.
And you know, Mike T. Traits for him.
We get him up at the Jets.
And I'm sitting there with him going through.
He's like, hey, you've got to translate some of these for me.
The West Coast, I didn't have no idea about the West Coast.
So he get in the means.
Finally, he picked it up and he was good with it.
He only wanted about, he's like, dad, he called me dabs.
Dads, we don't need like 50 plays.
Just give me these six.
I'll make it work.
So finally he got it.
He'd be in our beings.
He'd go, all right, well, that was a quarterback coach.
Let's do the sitcom game.
All right, 2D.
Where's she from?
Facts of life.
So we'd spend like 10 minutes.
He'd start rattling off like sitcom characters.
And the two young quarterbacks, I think,
was Ainge and Brett Ratliff and Kellen Clemens were like,
can we get going?
He was like, yeah, hey, put that highlight on back on 1994
when I did this.
And then the other thing, he can sling it.
He'd get an unbelievable arm.
So we'd have certain plays that say, hey, look, Cover 2,
you really want to focus on this side.
Not a great play on this side.
He'd be like, hey, dabs.
I got 372 completions in Cover 2 on that side.
So he was awesome, one of my favorites.
He's just fun, great personality.
Well, there's that story of him.
I think he was the one that told it where he was sitting down
in the film room.
And his coach was explaining what nickel coverage was
when he was in the NFL.
And he was like, oh, you just mean the extra cornerback.
That's what you call it?
Is that kind of how he was?
He knew the game, but didn't have all the nomenclature?
No, no, no.
He knew it.
Some of that is blown out of proportion.
He knew it.
He'd call me at night.
He'd be like, hey, talk to Shadi.
Go back and see if you can get this 1998 plate third quarter.
I think I was going away from him.
He just had a really unbelievable memory.
Awesome.
The first play he had at the Jets
will run a little flat slant.
Now all these quarterbacks do these lookoffs
and throw it one way.
It's the first time I've seen him do it.
He looks over at the flat.
And Jericho Cotry's running the slant.
And what's that one movie?
The guy didn't have great hands.
It's that movie, Featherstone?
I think you're trying to set me up now.
No, no, no.
Featherstone, I think that's the name.
Boom's right off Cotry's helmet goes flying up to your hand.
Cotry's like, god damn.
And it was like a rocket ball.
But he was a lot of fun.
So who's got a better arm, Joshua Breffarve?
Yeah, they both got great arms.
I know that answer now.
I'm taking my man here.
He's been with me for four years.
How, Josh, what do you think right now throwing?
Has it gotten, have you gotten farther in terms
of your ability to throw it?
I don't think so.
I think, again, coming out in college,
that's what I did.
I threw it hard.
Rocket arm.
Just rocket arm.
And I've kind of toned it down.
I've learned how to use different clubs in the bag,
if you will, and just haven't spent a whole lot of time
on long toss, which that's kind of what
helps you throw the ball a little further.
He had one today to Beasley.
It about took Beasley's off.
Beasley came over and he was like, Jesus Christ.
That was like, it was on him before he even turned.
And he caught it, but it was humming.
Yes, it was humming.
There's not many throws that he can't make.
Yeah.
Oh, it sounds like there's a throw he can't make.
He said there's not many.
So there's got to be one that he can't make.
That's probably, I said it the wrong way.
So which one?
Can he make every throw?
He can make every throw.
Every throw.
I read that your offensive philosophy is everything
should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
Is that fair?
Because that's a genius quote.
I read it like five times this morning.
I was like, wait, wow, that's like a life lesson.
Yeah, let's not make this game too hard for these guys.
We all played it or played different sports growing up.
The more you got to think about the worse you usually are.
Now, we have a lot of stuff, but you
need some smart guys to do it.
And once you do it, he's great with the receivers.
Get open, catch the ball.
Diggs last something.
He's doing today a walkthrough.
He's like, just get open and catch the ball.
We try to make it simple and let these guys play as fast
as they can.
But it helps when you've got a quarterback that
can help orchestrate it all.
Yeah.
I love hearing stories after games of old-timers
when they say, you know what?
We ran the same play nine times in a row
because they couldn't stop it.
And we said, we're going to run it
until they prove that they can do something about it.
Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you're like,
you know what?
We're going to go power right until they can tackle.
Let's just keep doing it.
Yeah, I think I've been involved in a few games like that.
Probably not as much of a play call
or as just being part of the staff.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
We do it out here sometimes in a team pass drill.
I'll say, hey, look, just take this play
and call it 10 times in a row with the different options.
And just look, they're going to play something different.
Odds are.
So you're getting different looks at it.
We're kind of, I don't want to say football geniuses,
but we're pretty close to it.
I'd say that.
We think outside the box.
And along those same lines, what I used to do in Madden
all the time, I would just go Hail Mary all the time,
like first down, second down, second and three,
second and four.
Four verts, baby.
Maybe we'll try that.
Have you ever thought about it?
That might be a good little package.
Because people only run Hail Mary at the end of a half
or at the end of a game.
Like, why not just break it out on second and three?
Yeah, you know the last play of the game
where you just keep laddering it?
That's what we want to do first play of the game.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I've been trying to get that through people's heads
for a while.
Like a couple of our staff meetings here.
Designed downfield laterals, that's the future of football.
Yeah, we'll set up a zoo.
But honestly, the Hail Mary on like second down,
they'll never see it coming.
Never.
No, and that's a good thing about a play car.
Keep them guessing, right?
Yeah.
I like it.
Do you have, so you got to go in a second.
Do you have Train Off Jill Seattle in your playbook still?
We do.
Do you have that, Josh?
Do you like that play?
Is that one of your favorite plays?
He's not getting you.
No, it's Seattle.
Yeah.
OK, yeah.
So it's the play that two have won the national championship.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Which I read the story that you basically
had a list of his favorite plays in the top right corner
of your play card.
And that was like second and 26, like let's just do it.
Yeah, you know, we called the first down play there
that we thought had a chance.
And shit, we're sitting there at second and 26,
they kicked a field goal.
And that was one of his favorites and did a great job with it
and looked off to safety and threw it up to Smitty.
It was, you know, all those championship games
that have been fortunate to be part of,
they've all come down to the last game, the last play.
Yeah.
As crazy as that sound.
That is crazy.
That play, over time against Atlanta, the Seattle Superbowl,
you know, we intercept the pass.
There's the field goal against the Rams, field goal
against the interception against the Eagles,
field goal against Carolina.
It could easily go the other way.
Yeah.
You tell that like when two got in,
two was going to be ready to go.
I was so mad at you guys because I bet Georgia.
Did you?
And I was like, this shouldn't be legal.
Because like that, like I bet against Jalen Hurts,
all good, you know, all due respect, nice guy and all that.
But like, that's what my bet was about.
And then you brought into it, I was like, this isn't fair.
Yeah.
So.
What quarterback are you talking about?
2D's nuts.
Oh.
He's all over it.
All right, this has been a stalemate.
This is like two bull elephants on the open savannah
and this is good little competition, you know.
So we'll go back and forth at it.
Well, coach, you got to go.
We're going to, we now have to basically hold Josh
hostage for the $15 million that he owes us.
See the security guy back there.
I'm a little scared.
Yeah.
He's rockin' up today.
Yeah.
But coach, thank you.
Best of luck this year.
Yeah, thank you guys, man.
We appreciate it.
Appreciate you guys coming in.
And I hope you enjoyed Buffalo.
It's a great town.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Love this place.
Careful about Ligma.
This guy.
This guy.
What?
The tick, the Ligma tick.
You like Chef Warrity?
No.
Oh, whoa.
Yeah, that was a good recovery.
All right, thanks, coach.
All right, so.
Josh, you owe us $10 million.
$15 million.
Did I specify which contract we were talking about?
The next one.
Yeah, you said the next one.
The next one.
Did I say the next football contract?
Well, I think I noticed that when you signed the contract,
I wasn't aggressive about it.
I said, very nice, like, hey, congrats.
You deserve it, Tex.
Never got a reply.
So I figured, huh, that's weird.
He must think that we forgot about this $15 million he owes us.
So you said 10% of your next contract.
And we're being nice right now, actually,
because we're doing just guaranteed money.
Yeah.
So $15 million.
Cash or check, what do you want to do?
Maybe just like a trip to downtown Buffalo
to get shopping or something.
Oh, yeah.
So I did not consult with Big Cat when I tweeted that.
First, I want to say the first thing I did not do
was ask you for money.
The first thing I did was just be like, wow,
Josh is rich as fuck now.
Congratulations.
So I wanted to get that out of the way.
But then the second thing I did was we're not greedy.
So I figured like $50,000 in a downtown Buffalo shopping
spree for the boys would be a nice little settlement.
Yeah, there's a bunch of boys.
There's a bunch of boys here.
But it's really, I mean.
But we've got, you know, take care of me, PFT, and Hank.
Yeah, like, that's what we're saying.
$50,000 and Jake.
And store credit, and then maybe a little extra on the top
to what the beak would be OK.
Yeah.
We could work something out.
We actually want to work out a real deal,
because we went to this wing place called Wing Nuts
that is incredible.
We told the owner, he almost cried when we said,
we're going to tell Josh Allen about this place.
They have a kitchen out of the Knights of Columbus,
so they don't even have a restaurant.
I don't know.
It would be cool if we get them a restaurant space, maybe go in.
And you'd be OK with that.
That's your community.
Yes.
All three of us, maybe investors and wing nuts.
I don't know.
So it's Ed and his wife, Alicia.
Yeah.
And they are.
And you can vouch for, like, you guys are, these wings are great.
They're incredible.
The best wings I've ever had in my life.
And we eat a shitload of chicken wings.
And this guy, Ed, his story is, he's the most Buffalo person
in the world.
He went to the very first Buffalo Bills game.
He was watching the Super Bowl on his birthday
when Scott Norwood missed the kick-wide right.
And he's been in this town, I think, his entire life.
Him and his wife went out for dinner one time.
Wait, we don't want to, we might have him on the podcast.
We might have him on the podcast.
Should I not tell the story?
Yeah.
Don't tell that part.
We've got to have him tell that part.
But he's as Buffalo as it gets.
Yeah.
That's what PFD is saying is exactly right.
He's as Buffalo as Buffalo gets.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to go to wing nuts.
I'm going to eat it, and then we'll talk.
Yeah, try it first.
OK, that's fair.
That's fair.
That's better, because you'll probably
want to give them more money.
Yes.
Yes.
No, you'll be like, that probably will fuck us,
because you'll kick us out of the investment group.
No, no.
Because you'll want it all on your own.
33.
33.
Well, yeah, we're sweat equity.
25, 25, 25.
Yeah, and then you're the money.
You're the cash guy.
Yeah, you're the executive producer.
OK.
And we're boots on the ground.
So let's do it.
What did you buy, though, for real?
Nothing yet.
Really?
Yeah.
You didn't get a new truck?
I thought you bought, didn't you buy some trees?
Well, that was prior.
But yeah, we put in 155 acres of pistachios.
That was fun.
What are you going to call it?
It's Allen Family Orchards.
OK, what are you going to call the things that
come out of the trees?
Josh's nuts.
OK, nice.
Is that what you want?
Is that what you want?
That's exactly what I wanted.
How many trees is 150 acres?
It's about 21,000 trees.
Wow.
Yeah.
Damn.
Give or take.
Did you help plant them?
Personally, we didn't, but there's
a crew that comes out and they plant them in a couple of days.
It's pretty spectacular to watch.
So when you decide that you're going to buy that many trees,
do you do it because it's an investment for the future
or do you do it because you just love trees?
Yeah, it's an investment for the future.
But again, my dad's had this farm for, shoot,
as long as I've been alive, he's been alive.
It's kind of a generational deal.
And we've been doing row crops.
And the problem with row crops is you
can't really tell what the weather's going to be like.
And there's a lot of things that you can't control.
But putting in trees, it's a solid investment.
It takes about four and a half, five years
to produce an actual plant, though.
And so that's what's the, it's a long-term play.
But once it starts rolling, it's pretty good.
There's money in trees.
I like it.
Although arborists are a crock of shit.
They are.
They don't know what they're doing.
But I think that's actually a pretty cool thing
to spend money on.
You don't think about buying plants and then having them
pay dividends in the future.
Well, certain types.
I saw a quote you had about the media.
I just want to make sure you're not talking about us.
But you said, no offense to the media.
But the bar I set for myself is higher than anything
anyone else can set for me.
You're not talking about us, right?
No, of course not.
OK, all right, good.
You guys are, like, I'd call you journalists.
Yes, not in the media.
But are you in, like, I mean, it's kind of a bad question.
I guess I'll ask it.
But have you had the thought of, like,
everyone was so impressed with what I did last year.
And they expect me to keep going, keep progressing,
keep getting better.
That's a lot of pressure.
I mean, I expect that too, though.
That's something I set for myself as well.
So I see the thing that would really
fuck me up, flowering your shoes, not
to make you nervous or whatever.
You're not going to be nervous.
But if you won a Super Bowl for the city of Buffalo,
I actually think that, like, I don't know.
Like, they would, you would be the king of Buffalo forever.
God, like the people, we were out yesterday meeting
and greeting the people of Buffalo.
We love Buffalo.
But their excitement for the Bills
and their excitement for Josh Allen
is so out of this world, it's like insane.
So not to make you nervous, again.
Literally, their entire happiness, life, everything
is resting on your shoulders.
I mean, I've known that since we got here, you know?
And it's no different now, but it is, again,
when I first got here, stories about the early 90s,
the early 90s, be the next Jim Kelly.
Like, you're going to be like, it's just like, I get it.
I get it.
And the excitement that the fans have here,
it's unbelievable.
Everywhere you go, it is live, breathe, die, Buffalo football.
And people's lives actually are affected by how we perform.
And I swear, there was a statistic a few years ago.
Work attendance, after we won, on average,
was decreased by 50% the next day.
People just, they love the Bills.
Are you ruining the local economy here?
Is Josh Allen actually bad for Buffalo?
I love it, yeah, I love it.
That's great.
I would actually think it would be worse if you lost,
because people, like, I don't know.
Maybe it's kind of the same for me.
Like, I don't know whether or not to get drunk in joy
or get drunk in misery.
Yeah.
But you probably want to go to work to take your mind off it.
That's the balance, you know, to find it.
I'm excited, though.
I'm excited for the people, Buffalo, I'm excited for you.
So you, what are, like, how are you feeling this camp has gone?
That's a real traditional media question.
Yeah, no, it's been a really good camp.
The addition of Emmanuel Sanders, you know,
he's been fantastic for us.
It's good that you said that, because I
didn't know he was on the team.
Yeah, he's doing really well.
But the plays that we've been putting in,
the guys are working their tails off right now.
And I'll tell you what, we drafted a few rookies on the D-Line,
the offensive line that are going to be really damn good.
And I'm excited to see them progress
and how they're going to play here
in the next couple pre-season games.
And I'll tell you what, Brandon Bean's
going to have some tough decisions to make,
because it's, we have a really good roster.
Yeah, have you gone horseback riding with that all over yet?
I have not.
But I have been driving down the road to go eat,
and he's just galloping along.
And literally, in the middle of the street, just on his horse.
That's amazing.
I love it.
Is that how he usually gets around?
Has he ever ridden a horse to practice?
He has not yet.
But I don't know if we should tell him that,
because he will do it.
He should absolutely do that.
He definitely will.
Big Cat was just talking about the media and how, you know,
they kind of changed their tune on you last year a little bit.
I like to think that we bullied them
into starting to change their tune,
because I think week two, we were like, earmuffs, Josh.
Suck my dick if you didn't believe in Josh Allen.
Suck the whole goddamn dick.
It's not big, but you can taste it all.
We were kind of bullying people into starting to apologize,
because you probably have the most cold takes
surrounding your career of any quarterback in the NFL.
Everyone was sure that you were not
going to work out when you were rookie as a first round pick.
Has anybody reached out to you personally to apologize?
Good question.
Not that I know of.
Not like, hey, I thought I was wrong.
None of that.
No one in the media?
They're still waiting.
They're still waiting?
No, because here's why this is a crock of shit,
because when they realized they were wrong,
they just apologized to everybody that followed them
on Twitter and made the apology.
Like, look how great I am at apologizing.
Yeah, right.
And owning up for my bad take.
But you are the aggrieved party.
They should be personally reaching out to you.
But based on what he did in college and the numbers,
this is what it was supposed to be.
Right.
You know what?
I was right, but then retrospectively, I was wrong.
So I was wrong.
I was right about being wrong.
Correct.
Yes, correct.
Yes.
All right, so I have one last question.
It's a mattress firm.
Oh, wait, actually, before I ask that question,
have you said officially what your favorite wings place is?
Barbell.
OK.
Barbell Tavern.
Should soon be wing knots.
OK.
All right, the mattress firm question.
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Billy and Hank were sleeping on the mattress firm mattress
all week.
They had great sleep.
All right.
So my last question is looking over your shoulder
a little bit at all.
I don't know.
He's coming out here in a minute,
but pretty big backup quarterback
sounding with Mitch Trimisky.
10.
And just saying, are you?
I freaking love him.
Higher draft pick than you.
Yeah.
Fact.
Your fat is a fact.
So he's technically better.
Just based on that.
Does he have more wings?
Probably.
I think he's got more wings than you, yeah.
I've got more wings eaten, though.
Yes, that's right.
So Mitch, though, Mitch is a great guy.
We're going to have him on in a second.
But how does he fit in with the whole?
He's been unbelievable.
His personality, his ideas, his knowledge of the game.
Like you said, he started 50-plus games.
What he's brought to the table for us has been fantastic.
We actually were out dinner last night.
He's got a birthday here on Saturday on game day
playing against Chicago.
I'm super excited to see him obviously play against them.
And there's a couple of guys that, you know, Chicago,
like these pre-season games mean a lot to people,
whether people believe that or not.
But no, he's been fantastic.
And I'm super glad that we have him.
I really am.
Yes.
I got one last, last question.
I kind of need a player to speak out
on this very important topic about people getting bullied
for saying we when they're talking about their team.
Like if a Bill's fans watching the Bill's play
on Sunday, let's say you guys win 30 to 17.
On Monday, fans should be allowed to say, like,
we kicked their ass yesterday, right?
Yeah.
Right?
That's totally fine to say.
Do you take offense?
No, we're all one big family here.
Yeah, absolutely.
If a fan claims a victory as their own, that's fair.
Buffalo also is like, absolutely way.
They're 100% way.
There's some not-we towns.
Yeah, right.
I would say like, Miami, probably not a we town.
Yeah, right.
Maybe Anaheim.
Miami.
Yeah.
Anaheim, not a we town.
Not a we town.
Arlington, Texas.
Yeah, not a we town.
We're going to piss some people off.
That's OK.
I think they would agree.
Buffalo is like at the top of the list.
I would say in we towns.
Yeah, they're Mount Rushmore for sure.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
All right, Josh, thank you.
We always love having you on.
So you just didn't bring any cash?
It's, see, I have IOUs.
I thought maybe you would be like, hey, here's like 500 bucks.
Just, you know, let's get the payment plan started.
Well, who's the not even that?
Who's the Mets player that gets paid?
By Venea.
Yeah, we're going to pay Venea payment.
If you want to do like $100,000 for the next, what, 70 years?
You can eat out, actually, Smarks.
We're not going to live that long.
Yeah, yeah.
So you could just be like, hey, I'll give you $10,000
for the next 500 years.
Little arbitrage.
Yeah, I can do that.
The more money you give us up front,
the more likely we are to die sooner.
Yeah, that's true.
That is very true.
So front load it.
And then, yeah, just taper it off.
Tell you what, side note, though,
I am loving the Rob Lohat.
Yeah, so you like the, well, it's actually,
it's a Washington football team hat.
I turned it backwards out of respect.
People gave you a lot of shit about the bucket.
I think it's a good look.
Yeah, it is.
I don't know.
I just wore it.
It's also the bucket hat is like,
it is a training camp look.
First, you don't bring it to the regular season.
No.
But bucket hats belong in training.
When we're out walkthroughs out here,
and you've got to cover everything, it gets hot.
I'm sorry.
I have a third last question.
You're not going to wear that visor in the regular season.
Oh, yeah.
What the fuck, dude?
Please talk me down from that ledge.
Don't do that.
You don't want me to wear it?
No, visor has never worn a Super Bowl.
Yeah, I'm not wearing a visor.
OK, all right.
I told you this.
Remember when you were up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you didn't record me while you called me,
or didn't tell me you were recording.
We actually saw the other time we called you and recorded,
the kid, shout out to kid.
We saw him at the bar last night
when we had that kid in the studio.
And we called you, and you gave him a shout out.
That's right.
So you're a man of the people.
Hashtag the kid.
Yeah, hashtag the kid.
No, he actually said he's going to be really upset about that,
because I guess he's like a 40-year-old dude.
And he's like, everyone keeps calling me the kid now.
And I was like, well, why did you tell me that?
Because now I'm definitely going to bring it up,
and we're going to do the kid again.
So hashtag the kid.
Well, I got a question for you.
Yeah.
NCAA should be coming out, right?
That being the one?
Yes, yes.
Is Dugs making a comeback?
Yes, absolutely.
Dugs has not had his last season.
OK.
I don't know when, but Dugs has not had his last season.
OK.
So all right, well, Josh, you're the best man.
OK, well, then I got another second.
OK.
Will you coach my pokes?
Oh.
I'll consider it.
You'll consider it?
I'll consider it.
OK.
I'll consider it.
Just for a season.
If I could win a famous Idaho bowl,
it would be a dream come true.
Get their prestige up a little bit, and help us out, man.
I think your salary right now is what, 10 million a year?
Yeah.
For Dugs?
So if you know anyone that's got that kind of cash.
Yeah, you could wet the beak.
I could be bought for Idaho.
Wow, man, it's the only four-year-insert
of Wyoming?
Yeah, it's the only four-year state, so I think they got enough.
Wait, where'd you go to college?
Wyoming.
Yeah, Wyoming.
Why'd I say Idaho?
Oh, because that's where the bowl is.
It's Idaho potato bowl, yeah.
It's like the same state.
I was like, what the hell?
Why'd I say Idaho?
All right, yeah.
Well, those piss yellow uniforms?
Hell, yeah.
Let's take it easy, all right?
I mean, they are.
No, no, no, I love the water, too.
You know, that potato bowl, when it was maroon and yellow
versus brown and gold on the blue turf, it was beautiful.
It was a funky combination.
I'll give you that.
You get the big pot of potatoes.
I love it.
Oh, man.
All right, well, Josh, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
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We're going to finish up the show with our Mount Rushmore
and our FireFest finishing up Grit Week, a great Grit Week.
Great to be back on the road.
Great to see the people.
Again, we have some big stuff coming, right?
Like, recap video.
Obviously, the song with Benny the Butcher.
Liam saw color for the first time.
Yeah.
Liam saw color for the first time.
Maybe the best video we've ever made.
We've got Mitch Trebisky Monday.
You're not going on that.
I mean, let's just say we're not going
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It's pretty simple.
We don't deliver lines well.
I thought it was great.
You know what?
It wasn't about the lines.
It was just about helping our friend Liam be able to see a
beautiful.
Well, Liam was the worst actor in it.
Yeah.
So we were all terrible.
I thought that was real.
Yeah, it was real.
I thought it was real.
First time you ever saw color.
Yeah, he was crying.
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Okay, we're gonna do the Mount Rushmore
of things you do at a hotel.
Hotel moves, because we've been in hotels,
although Hank, you made good on your disc golf bet.
You slept in the RV last night.
It was great, shout out to Mattress Firm.
My sleep was great.
I slept on a bus for four months straight,
so one night out of RV park,
it's basically like a hotel, it's not better.
Yeah, you're good.
And there were some people like,
oh, this isn't gritty, you guys sleep in hotels.
First of all, I think we slept in hotels
from the beginning.
And second of all, I'm a little bit older.
I was making the joke the other day
that when we're 50, Grit Week is just gonna be
eating two spicy meals back to back.
Also, it really shows the level of your AWL-ness,
if you say it's not Vanity Woodhead,
when the real first Grit Week was on an RV
that was the exact same as the one we had.
Correct, correct.
So you're telling on yourself, people.
I think we slept in that one one night.
One night.
And the rest, that was in hotel rooms, yeah.
So we're gritty, we're out here.
I mean, we're doing a podcast
at the Knights of Columbus right now.
Absolutely.
With our guy Ed, who's our future partner in all business.
Like, we should just make him executive producer
of everything we do, Ed.
We need an Ed.
Every group needs an Ed around.
Take some trailers to the Super Bowl.
All right, so Mount Rushmore Hotel moves.
Do I decide the order?
Yeah, all right.
One, I'll go.
Handily.
Besides Liam's win on pizza toppings,
this was to take us a lot of time, yeah.
I was justified by that.
It was a cell phone.
It was a cell phone.
It was a huge cell phone.
Context clues matter.
Context clues.
The conversation cell phone never made sense.
Yeah, cell phone made sense.
It didn't make sense.
Yeah, cell phone made sense, not cell phone.
Cell phone didn't make any sense.
Cell phone.
So wait, Hank, is this yours,
or is Bubba doing it with you?
Team Hubba, we're just, we're by life.
All right, he didn't send me any, but it doesn't matter.
You're happy, right?
I'll start, and we'll go this way, Hank,
and then back around.
Okay.
All right, easy one-one,
cranking the AC as low as it can possibly go.
That is the number one rule of every hotel room.
You get in there.
It's not your AC.
Pray it goes below 65.
Dude, the one we were in last night was at 60.
Yeah, I checked in, and it was at 60.
I absolutely loved it.
Incredible.
This is like if the person that won the Super Bowl
also got the first round draft in this case.
This is like Andrew Luck.
This is Andrew Luck draft.
Like, all right, I'm just taking Andrew Luck.
You're just gonna, that's an obvious one-one.
Yes, yes.
Because I actually like drafting on the wrap around four or five,
but I had to do one here.
All right.
All right, we're gonna go with,
shout out like Mike, ordering room service.
It's a great fit.
It's calling the phone.
Picking it up.
Yup, on my list, good pick.
Okay, I'm gonna go with running the hot shower
for as long as you want.
Even turning it on before you get into the shower,
like letting it go cook for like 15, 20 minutes,
get the bathroom real steamy and foggy.
Again, you're not paying the hot water bill.
It's a luxury.
Yes, yes.
I thought you were taking this when you said cranking,
but jerk off.
Yeah, I had jacking on my list.
I had jacking it, yeah.
Specifically in a robe.
Yeah.
That was my number two.
Using the lotion,
because there's always lotion.
There wasn't in Pittsburgh.
Ah, you noticed, okay.
Conditioner.
Sorry, you got backed up.
Yeah.
Speaking of lotion, this is my patented thing.
I might trademark this move,
but the shampoo soup.
Yeah.
You get in the shower,
you just take all of the free complimentary bottles
and you just pour them into your hand
and just rub it all over your body.
Yup.
Yup.
What?
Called the shampoo soup.
I love it.
I love it.
Listen, that's not really shampoo,
it's not body wash.
It's all basically the same thing.
You just combine them.
It makes no sense, but I love it.
You make a long island iced tea, a cleaning product.
This is the man who brought you
Barbara Cuffalo.
Barbara, yeah.
And what was the night cool thing?
Lister quill.
Lister quill.
So Hank just basically,
all his ideas are just combining everything.
Hank just sees every liquid in his house
and he's like, there's gotta be a better way.
We gotta put this all together.
That's what it's called.
Never.
Always keep them separate.
That's a great pick.
You only got three bottles,
that's just fucking,
let's get nuts.
I can say it was not on my list.
When in my list.
When in my list.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay, I can't believe.
Then he took the shampoo soup.
No, Jack in it.
I thought Hank would be too bashful to go cranking it.
No, dude.
Hank Fox.
Yeah.
And it's also in the hotel.
It's like, how much of a list is there?
There's only so many things you do in a hotel.
Okay, I'm gonna go with,
from my next one,
using one of the two beds in your room
as the bag and clothes bed.
A shelf.
Yeah, as a shelf.
You just put all your stuff out on there,
dirty clothes, that goes on the bed too.
It's actually,
most bedrooms that are being designed right now
in America should have a second bed.
Yes.
Because it's so much easier to just use a bed as that
than it is to use a closet or a dresser.
Yes, absolutely.
One thing I always think about in hotel,
actually, I guess we'll get there,
maybe someone will use this.
Okay, okay.
I'm actually not going to.
Okay.
Why, at what point,
what hotel convention in the world that they decide
we're gonna get clocks with iPhone 4 charges on it?
Yes, yes.
Every time, it's like,
they went all in on the iPhone 4
and this is useless.
Yes, I agree.
It's like, look at this cool little dock pour.
You can plug your phone in and play music.
The worst is when you go to a hotel
and you don't even realize that there's an alarm set
and it will go off.
That happens like once every 10 times,
but it's brutal.
Like a six AM alarm,
you just have to fucking smash that clock against the wall.
Somebody got paid off that iPhone 4 thing.
Yeah, big time.
When the hotel's all decided at once to be like,
you know what, it's the year 2014.
Now it's time, let's make the move
to the iPhone 4 market.
Yes, yes, big time.
Okay.
So we're gonna go with something
that really makes you establish your presence.
It's your room,
putting the do not disturb sign out on the front.
Good one.
Not letting anyone come in.
Good one.
Respectfully.
Good one.
Okay.
You ever walk down the hallway
and make people's do not disturbs off?
They'll have you mean.
That would be mean, but awesome.
All right.
I've done it drunk.
Okay.
My next pick is going to be very specific,
but it's checking out the gym,
not actually working out,
but checking it out and being like, oh, okay.
All right.
You know how you always pack the shoes?
Could be bigger.
Yeah, you pack the shoes that you don't,
you're like, oh, well, what if I work out
and you never use them?
I pack the shoes this time.
But every time you go, you're like, hey, let me just,
all right, before we go back down to the lobby,
let me just check out the gym real quick.
Yeah.
I walk down to the gym the other day
and then turn around and walk back up.
Yeah.
I always just like to look at the gym.
Be like, oh, okay.
Well, maybe they got like, you know,
something cool that I don't know about.
Make a mental note of where the fitness center is.
Yeah, right.
Never going back, but I checked it out.
And then a mini bar, hitting up the mini bar.
It feels like you're, obviously it's very expensive,
but it always feels like you're kind of stealing
because you're like, oh, these peanut M&Ms are $18,
but they're great in the moment.
Well, if you don't have to pay for it at the time,
it feels free.
Right, right.
That's a future me problem.
I'll make that money up.
And it's also like, there's something,
it's almost like a dare where you're like,
I'll look at the prices and be like,
oh, these gummy bears are $28.
Well, I'm gonna fucking eat them.
Like, fuck you.
Oh, I've always said,
if you put like a super expensive drink on the menu,
I have to order it.
There was one time I got a margarita, it was $100.
All the other margaritas were like 13 bucks on the menu.
There was one that was a hundred bucks.
I was like, well, I can't be a broke boy,
not get the $100 margarita.
I asked the owner, I was like,
how much does this really cost to make?
He's like, probably about like 35 bucks,
but I'd sell more of them if they're a hundred,
than I would if they were $37.
Love it, I love it, I love it.
All right, Jake and Billy.
This is one for like,
when you're at an AAU tournament or something.
Yeah, okay.
I've seen that too.
Playing Ding Dong Ditch.
Mmm.
Just Ding Dong Ditch.
That's good.
Bad boy life.
That is good, knocking on random doors.
Getting yelled at by security.
Yeah, that's good.
Hey you kids.
Well, this is kind of awkward
because my next one,
the business owner Alicia just sat down,
so I don't want to say it in front of her,
but I'll just, I'll spell, just F-U-C-K-I-N-G.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's always better.
Yeah.
You're like in a different environment.
Things are like, you know,
it's not the same place that you normally get in.
Yeah.
That sort of thing.
It's always more fun on the road.
Damn.
A road trip, actually.
Didn't know my boy got down like that.
Pryo, nox.
Yeah.
Nox me, bro.
Oh.
Yes.
Just F-U-C-K-I-N-G?
Sucking fucking.
I'm out of, I'm out of picks.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I'll just go with, this is what I did this week.
So I'll just go with what I did this week.
I, I turned on the TV.
See if you can get an RV.
I turned on the TV and I watched the guide channel.
That's a good pick, actually.
I just sit there and watched the, you know,
you're just like, all right,
because obviously there's no guide.
You have to watch the guide channel.
You see what's happening.
See what's going on.
In the city.
And then you're like, wait, maybe I missed something.
I don't hate that pick.
I'm gonna let it go through like four times.
And I'm like, I'm actually tired.
I'm just gonna go to sleep.
I don't hate that pick.
I was so high when I got back to the hotel last night
that I put it on the guide channel
and I tried to go up and down,
but I kept changing it to like a different input.
So it was going to like the HDMI one.
And then I'd have to like put it back
to the actual TV channel.
I couldn't figure out why my TV didn't have any.
I honestly sat on my bed for about 15 minutes,
just hitting the up and down button
until I figured it out.
All right.
And your last one.
Come on.
You got one.
Unpacking my clothes and the dresser.
Now I'm just getting numbered on that my fucking life.
That actually is a boss move.
I love it.
It's the best move.
You go on a vacation, Hank.
Maybe on a vacation, but not at a hotel.
It does.
On a one night trip.
On a vacation.
If you're there on vacation for three, four days,
but like one, two days, something happens.
I do it every, like if I'm down at the Super Bowl
or something like that, I'm there for five days.
I'm now a big time unpack my stuff,
put them in the drawers guy.
All right, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna take that as my pick.
Put it on the list.
I had it on my list.
It actually makes you feel like a boss.
It does, like an adult.
Now I'm not willing to go far enough to say,
making your bed would be a good move.
That's a field Yates move.
He makes his bed in hotels.
First thing I do is put my suit out.
Of course.
You don't want to wrinkle it.
Even when you're on vacation, you bring your suit.
Yeah.
Just in case.
All right, PFT, your last pick.
All right, my last one is going to be the hot tub.
The hot tub in the pool.
Just getting to, if not using it,
like Big Cat said with the fitness room,
like walking by and being like, got a hot tub here.
And let everybody in your group know
that there's a hot tub in the hotel room.
But if you're on like a vacation
and you're staying there for a couple nights,
if it's not really like a work trip
where you're working late at night,
the hot tub is a great thing to come back to
at the end of the day.
Yes, all right.
Losing your key.
Just your key card, just losing it.
Everyone does it going to the receptionist
being like, I lost my key.
And then them being like, yeah.
Yeah, it happens every time, every time.
All right, my last one is,
I like to, one of the first things I do
when I get in the hotel room is I rip the sheets
because they always make the bed so fucking tight
that if you try to get into it,
you basically get, it's a straight jacket.
So I like to rip up the bottom of the sheets
and kind of loosen up the bed.
Like sometimes your feet can't even get to full extension
when you get into the hotel bed.
It's crazy how they do that.
Yeah, it is.
But I actually like it.
I like the fact that I'm snug.
No, I like that it's there.
But then I just get in, I immediately dismantle.
It's like a dog with a toy.
It's like, I love this toy,
but I'm going to rip all the stuffing out.
Yeah, so when I, if you get in and you try to kick it,
like off, you'll always kind of end up in like a tangled web.
So I like to rip it first.
All right, things that are missed.
I don't know if this counts as a hotel move,
but when you like go on vacation,
calling your hotel room home after like three hours.
Like, are we going to go back home?
Yeah.
I think you're talking about your hotel room.
I like that.
I had leaving towels on the floor after you're done with them.
Big time.
This one would have been controversial.
I don't like doing it, but I always do do it
when I go to a hotel room, ironing,
because it's right there.
Like I don't iron at home,
but I ironed at a hotel room.
I had a missing the continental breakfast.
Yeah.
Happened to me today.
I came down there at 9.45.
Five minutes.
I missed it by five minutes.
I missed it by 15.
And it still smelled like breakfast down there,
which was the worst part.
Charging something to the room is always a good feeling.
Down at the restaurant, requesting like check out.
Yeah, that's good.
Some hours.
Did you check out a hotel room, Jake?
Never in my life.
I didn't realize like people actually did that.
Yeah.
You just walk out.
They know when you're leaving.
I mean, now we're dating ourselves,
but like staying at hotels back in the day
where it was an actual key.
Like that actually would happen.
So if you stay in a hotel that has a key right now,
it's one of two things.
Like who's checking out a hotel?
It's either like, if you have a key to unlock your door,
it's either a very quaint place,
or it's just a crack house.
And there's no in between whatsoever.
Dramatic opening of your curtains
and staring out at your view, even if it's a terrible view.
I also like to do a little life hack.
If your curtains don't fully close
and it gets dark in there,
take the clothes hanger and fasten it shut.
That's what I do.
That's bold.
That's like MacGyver shit.
Yeah.
Because you need to get like,
there's nothing worse than going to-
I accept my fate when I see that.
Yeah, when you go to a hotel room
and there's that little crack of sunlight,
and you're like, oh, this is gonna fuck me.
Yeah.
I have the small boxes of cereal that you get at hotels.
Really the only place that you ever eat them.
Yup.
Stealing the shampoo and conditioner
from the maize cart, all the little things they have.
For soup, for more soup?
More soup.
How much soup can you have?
Like sometimes they-
I love shampoo soup.
It's like my favorite pick of the summer.
Shampoo soup.
How much stuff?
You see Hank just standing in the shower,
just squirting into his hand.
How much stuff do you think
that you can combine into one thing?
Like realistically, what items?
So you have shampoo, conditioner, body wash.
That's it?
Bubble bath.
No, I'm saying like,
forget about what they have in a hotel.
No, that's it, only in a hotel.
Yeah.
It's a novelty drink, yeah.
Love it.
I love it.
Treat yourself.
Well, at home you have like a two for one or whatever.
One thing I never understood.
It's a literal, like instead of two for one,
that's what people get on market.
It's like you probably use two for one
fucking shampoo conditioner.
Yeah, I wish.
This is me just doing it all.
You're saving time.
And the environment.
Right.
I wish hotels had liquid soap to wash your hands.
Like who uses a bar at home?
And it's a waste.
To wash your hands.
Cause you use it for like two times
and then they throw out the bar.
Good point.
The other thing that pissed me off, no toothpaste.
Why?
Yeah.
Hotels have all these complementary things.
Or socks.
No new socks.
But toothpaste.
We're talking about things that we forgot to pack.
Toothpaste should be part of.
And socks.
No.
And underwear.
No.
You know what the worst is?
When you stay at a hotel that has
a video game console hooked up to it.
And it's like pay me $30 to unlock video games.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Cause it just taunts you.
Also one of the worst things that happened to me
yesterday happens probably every other time I go
to a hotel is clogging the toilet
and then having to call down.
And yesterday I just walked out and I was just like,
hey, someone clogged the toilet in 313.
And the guy was like, okay.
This sucks.
Like you just, you basically just have to tell them like,
hey, I take big dumps.
Hey, someone used all the lotion in my room this morning.
It's just last night.
Never gets not embarrassing.
Brutal.
Brutal.
All right.
That was a good Mount Rushmore.
Shampoo soup.
Lives on forever.
And I'm going to do, I can't wait to go to a hotel now.
And you just shampoo soup the fuck out of me.
Yep.
All right.
Firefest a week.
Should we start?
Let's get it.
All right.
Great week.
Firefest Hank.
I don't think you can have a firefest on a week
as beautiful as Great Week.
But if I were to have one, it would be that.
I didn't pack a charger and I've been chasing a charge
this whole week.
PFT was nice enough to give me a charger.
I give you one.
I lost PFTs.
Oh.
I will get you another one.
It was one of the nicer ones too.
It was really nice.
It was a luxurious six foot core.
Oh, you can't lose that.
Those don't grow on trees.
I do.
I pass the Apple Store on my commute to work.
So I will be able to get you another one.
But that's firefest.
I think you got to go 12 feet.
Yeah.
It's one of those ones though.
If I lost a shitty small charger,
I'd be like, yeah, whatever.
I got you.
Did you lose big cats too?
No.
No, because I stayed on his ass.
Because he was walking around all free.
And it had been a couple hours.
You still got my charger.
Show me your charger.
Because I knew he had lost yours.
So I was like, this guy, Hank, he's just fucking eating
chargers this week.
I got back.
I bought a charger, gave it to someone at the stew.
And then I forgot to get it back.
When I went back to the bus, I had 10%.
When I got back to the bus, no chargers there.
Going to sleep with 10% of your battery
and not knowing whether or not it's still
going to be alive when you wake up.
What a rush.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last great week.
Yeah, that is great week.
All right, PFT, you're FireFest of the Week.
OK, I got two.
One, my debit card got stolen while I was away.
Somebody bought like an $1,100 iPhone in New York
while I was on the road.
So I had to cancel that, which means that now I'm without a debit
card for the next probably week or so, which it sucks.
But it also has a silver lining because it resets everything
when it comes to all the monthly charges that I have.
Ooh, nice.
It's like the circle of life.
It cleans you out.
Yeah, like winter time.
Everything freezes over and only the strong seeds grow back.
I have to go ahead and reauthorize every single monthly
payment to continue.
So I'm probably going to say, actually,
between that and only fans, this is just a great month
for saving money.
Yes.
And then also FireFest is at 5 o'clock this morning
that people directly upstairs from my hotel room
started pounding it.
Like fucking like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, right there.
They were f-u-c-k-i-n-g.
I'm telling you, I've never heard a bed hit the ground.
I swear to God, I opened my eyes.
It's 5 a.m., right?
And I think there's no way that this is what I'm hearing.
My brain tells me I think I must be downstairs
from the fitness center because that's
the sound of somebody running on a treadmill
because they went for like 30 minutes.
And I was like, there's no chance.
So after like 10 minutes, I start
hearing some of the noises, some of the groans.
And then I heard a guy just saying, get some.
Get some.
Get some.
That's right.
Billy in the gym.
I'm going to ask a question that I think is on everyone's mind.
Did you jerk off?
Listen to it?
No, because I was still high because I was still high.
That's the thing.
Dude, you have to.
You have to jerk off.
If they sound hot, you have to.
They didn't sound hot.
All I heard was the guy.
So like, who knows?
I didn't know if it was Sus or not
because I would have just been, I would have been cranking it
to just a guy going, get some, get some.
I think I'm going to have to start saying drink sex now
because it sounds like an album.
Get some.
Get some.
But yeah, it was, I think if it's between the hours of like midnight
and three and I woke up and I heard that, you're right, free porn.
But like four and five AM, that's when I'm in that middle.
I don't know if I'm alive or dead zone.
My brain doesn't work correctly.
Yeah, when I'm in a hotel room by myself,
I'm like, pray that the people next to me fuck
so I can get a quick show.
I normally don't mind that, but this was, it was aggressive.
And I wanted to tell you guys all morning
because of what a crazy sound it was that was coming from,
like directly upstairs, not like an adjacent,
it was directly over my head,
just the sound of the bag going like.
Oh, hell yeah.
For 30 minutes.
Hell yeah.
Get some.
Get some.
All right, high-five fest, I get two.
Well, no, no, I have one, I have one.
And I actually don't think you guys even know this happened,
but it happened like five feet away from you.
I puked on the bus.
I puked on the bus, on the ride from.
Are you pregnant?
Too much jaw.
No, we hit a bump and I swallowed a pouch.
I was in the back, this was part of the spillage.
It was like a whole, it all happened at the same time.
It was like, it was like spitting, bump, spill, swallow.
I went into the bathroom, I puked.
You guys were listening to music, so you didn't hear,
and I was like, thank God they didn't hear.
It sucked, I puked a lot.
This was the last time you threw it from dip.
It had been a long time, but it was like the perfect.
And shout out, Ben.
Ben's been a great bus driver, but he hit a bump,
and I just fucking swallowed a full pouch.
It was so bad.
So yeah, that was my firefest.
It was actually more that I don't want them to hear me puke,
so thank God you guys didn't hear me.
Yeah, great job hiding.
Yeah, well there was music, it's loud on the bus,
but you know that there's that moment where you puke,
and you're just like, oh fuck,
the embarrassment everyone would be like, did you puke?
So, I was able to.
From a body image standpoint,
I know that you've got a lot of compliments
on how skinny you are.
Yeah.
Is there something you want to talk about?
No, I wish I could do that.
Sneaking away.
Well, that's not healthy, don't do that.
Sneaking away, throwing up.
I wish I could do that.
How are your teeth?
Has the enamel in your teeth, big chat?
Oh, nice, put them on there.
Huge mistake.
Also, I missed my kids.
That was my other firefest.
I'm glad that you said kids because last time you said
that you missed your son,
it sounded like a Drew Brees situation.
Well, someone pointed that out,
but my daughter is three months,
so she can't talk.
My son is at the point now where it's like,
I'd rather hang out with him
than anyone else in the world
because we just fucking bro out.
So, my daughter will get there.
She'll learn words and all that shit.
Also, I totally forgot to say it.
Shout out Peggy, who was integral to Grit Week.
Absolute saint.
She works with us, helps us book guests.
She's a great guest booker.
This has been like a four month process
dealing with teams, COVID, vaccines.
Yeah, the vaccines and all that stuff.
The amount of paperwork and shit
that went into this Grit Week compared to other ones.
She's on top of everything.
And she's super communicative.
She works with us, going back and forth with the teams.
And she's super professional all the time.
Yeah, so maybe just everyone just,
if you feel inclined, just tweet out shout out Peggy
because she was awesome this week
and she's great to work with.
All right, Jake, firefest.
Yeah, so yesterday it was taking a bunch of pictures
of you guys at the AWLs
and next thing I know, a bunch of beer falls on my back.
Yeah, and now I have an outfit full of beer
that hopefully isn't smelling up the rest of my luggage.
So Billy hit a drink cart.
I had nothing to do with this.
I had nothing to do with it.
Hundreds of people smashing like 15 plates and glasses.
It was the loudest crash I've ever heard
at a restaurant in my entire life.
And Billy just like trying to walk away from it
like he didn't do anything.
No, I did not do it.
And then Jake having his entire back cover, it was perfect.
It was a perfect encapsulation of Jake and Billy
and like who they are.
Billy's a guy who like, even if,
let's just say it wasn't your fault.
Even if it wasn't your fault,
you're still like at the scene of the crime
and everyone's like, God damn it, Billy.
Like people, well, I was gonna say,
people started an asshole chant.
I started an asshole chant and the whole bar did it for you.
But, and then Jake like for the next hour was like,
my back is so wet.
This is gross.
Actually, who do you think knocked it over?
The person who was totally dry or the person who was wet?
Oh.
Who was close to Jake.
I was on the stage.
Well, not that.
Yeah, that doesn't.
Dude, there's nothing like starting a good asshole chant.
I know the thing is, everyone started chanting.
I felt bad for the actual person who knocked it over.
No, you didn't.
You owned yourself.
No, that's why I started.
That's why I started cleaning up.
You could never go near a drink cart again.
No, that's why I started cleaning up the stuff
because I was like, oh my God,
because the person who actually did it was clean up.
Yeah, Billy started just picking up glass
with his bare hands, pretty cool move.
Yeah, well, they're big pieces.
But I felt, yeah.
Are you saying, though, that it might have been Jake?
No, it wasn't Jake.
I know who did it.
Who was?
I'm not going to say it.
Say the name.
I'm not going to embarrass you.
It's always you.
If you did do it, how would you have done it?
Yeah.
No, it was unfortunately one of the servers
put something on there.
Do you say servants?
Servers.
Oh.
Oh.
All right, Billy, you're Mount Rush, or a fire fast.
The whole wing fiasco.
The worst part about it was, so I failed the wing challenge.
You were close, though.
No, not at all.
Yeah, fail.
It's like, I think they wouldn't.
I don't even know if they'd give you an F,
because that would show that you showed up.
It was incomplete.
Yeah, so basically, took one down,
realized having no beverage, no blue cheese, no nothing
was ridiculous.
Like, when you're chewing a whole drumstick in your mouth,
because you're trying to get down fast,
because speed's the only way it works.
Like, where you can get away from the heat, you get caught up,
and then you realize, like, once you take the second bite,
like, yeah, you're not doing this.
Like, yeah, I get out.
But the worst part is that the video didn't show,
like, the several, like, hours afterwards,
where I was just, like, sweating.
You know, like, my lips blew up, like, and it killed me.
They only tried to say that humidity
reactivated the heat, like, three hours later.
It did.
I put a mask on, it, like, was sweating,
and then my lips started burning again.
There was, like, a little bit of sauce on my wrist
that, like, was not on the glove,
and it, like, was burning till, like, the next morning.
So what is the excuse that you're going to make?
I'm not making an excuse.
I'm not making a very hard wing challenge.
Okay.
All right, because there was an excuse
that you were making yesterday,
which was that they amped up the spiciness of the wings
because they had it in for you personally.
No, I think-
You think that they made it spicier than it normally is.
Oh, I think the chef sees a bunch of cameras,
and some guy's doing the wing challenge,
and he's like, oh, I'm going to fuck this guy up 100%.
By the way, last breaking news, breaking moves.
Breaking moves, breaking moves.
There was a poll done by Scouts and Executives,
and LeBron James got zero votes as best player in the NBA.
He then tweeted, thank you, all caps,
as if I didn't need more gas,
didn't need more to fuel me, hashtag washed.
No, hashtag washed king.
King, oh yeah, I missed that part.
That's the nickname that everyone's calling him.
All right, so, Billy, you got anything else?
Yeah, we have, there was a new NIL sponsorship signing
with Kool-Aid McKinstry, who obviously signed with Kool-Aid,
and they did a really cool picture on their Twitter,
which was like the Arnold Schwarzenegger picture,
where it's the two guys holding hands,
but it was him and the Kool-Aid man.
Tony Bob was here.
That's a great name.
Other signings, we have a bunch of quarterbacks.
We're signed to Chicken's Restaurant, Sam Howells,
Bojangles, JT Daniels, Zaxby's, and Spencer Rattlers,
was to Raising Kane, so little chicken rivalry there.
And yeah, that's pretty much about it.
Nervous little bird.
Billy, are you ever gonna get a chicken advertisement
after your performance?
Probably not. Probably no, never.
Probably gonna go vegan. Yeah.
Ooh, you should go vegan.
You should do a vegan food challenge.
You did look really skinny, by the way, in that one picture.
Yeah, no, I'd definitely get a balking season.
Yeah, what's going on with that?
People are saying you're a beta?
No. Oh, okay.
I just read the internet, dude.
I was trying to get a six-pack, like Hank said,
because I thought Hank actually might do it.
I was close. Now it's like a...
Billy's like, disgust when I say the word beta.
No, that's not true.
All right, Jake, you wanna do numbers?
Get the random number generator.
76.
8.
99.
69.
99.
8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8.
All right, I'll go 18.
All right.
Survey says...
43.
Wait, Nick.
Ben, number.
1 to 100.
Yeah.
27.
All right, here we go.
59.
59.
And an ode.
Damn.
Great grit week.
Thank you, everyone who listened and saw us out.
We fucking love grit week.
We love you guys.
And yeah, we have more grit week coming up.
Hank looks like a fucking douchebag.
And an ode to Buffalo.
There was at 1.30 to 60 million buffalos across America.
And Lewis and Clark said that it was so crowded with buffalos,
they had to push them aside to get across the Great Plains.
Wow.
Buffalos.
That's the truth.
Love you guys.
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Oh, I'll be coming for your love, OK?
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone.
That I have to.
Needless to say, I've said it.
But I'll be stoned away.
So to learn if life is OK.
Say up to me.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Say up to me.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone.
In a day or two.
All the things that you say are reasonable.
Just to play my love a reasonable way.
You are the things I've got to remember.
When you're shying away,
I'll be coming for you anyway.
When you're shying away,
I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone.
In a day or two.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.