Pardon My Take - Justin Herbert, Aaron Donald, And Segments Are Officially Back

Episode Date: February 15, 2021

JJ Watt is a free agent, Trevor Lawrence takes and we take a HARD detour on cool hat guys and whether or not PFT can pull of a Cowboy Hat (2:45 - 25:57). Who's back of the week including Jordan Spieth and Chris Hogan (25:57 - 38:10). Chargers QB Justin Herbert joins the show to talk about his amazing rookie season, not being on twitter, playing for Oregon, and his hair (38:10 - 51:17). Aaron Donald joins the show in a reminder how quick SB media week interviews are (51:17 - 66:49). Segments are back including Respect the Biz Tom Brady for throwing the Lombardi trophy, sorry not sorry James Harden, Thought and Prayers Colin Cowherd and Drunk idea.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Monday, February 15th, a post football world. Post mostly football, post mostly football. And JJ Watt is officially a free agent. Henry Lockwood has made that possible after slandering him on Friday's show. But JJ Watt is a free agent heartfelt speech to the fans that I loved. I thought that was really nice and really genuine. Yeah. And that's the big news.

Yeah. And I thought he did it in a very classy way, extremely classy. Thank the fans first and foremost. Thank the franchise for putting him in that position. That's something that, you know, you wouldn't expect a guy like Russell Wilson to do JJ meant every word that he said. I think that there's probably at least like three or four hundred thousand dollars that he has earmarked right now to take out full page.

Thank you ads to the entire city of Houston. He's probably going to be buying billboards all over Texas, thanking them for his time there. JJ gets it. This is a guy who gets it. Right, Hank? Yeah, I mean, that it was a nice video. I think it's something on par with exactly what Russell Wilson would do.

So, you know, my point was proven. So I, I would contend that JJ Watt being a free agent, he has the most ties to the most teams, strong ties to the most teams that a free agent has ever had. So the free agency looks like this. Everyone says he's going to go to the Packers because obviously he's from Wisconsin. You know, no, no, no, wait, hold on. I'm going to go through all of them. Okay.

He grew up in Wisconsin. He's a Packer fan, grew up a Packer fan. His wife plays for the Chicago Red Star. So there's some links to Chicago. He actually Instagram story to Lumal Nadi's pizza the other night. So he's in Chicago right now, probably talking to Ryan Pace. If I had to guess, Ryan Pace is going to offer him somewhere between 150 and $200 million.

And then the completion of the Watt trilogy in Pittsburgh, the cap, the capstrapped Pittsburgh Steelers to add JJ Watt to the TJ Watt and the Derek Watt trio in Pittsburgh. And then I'll just throw in the Bucks because now that the Bucks have won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady, I think that that becomes the new like New England Patriots where every, whenever there was a free agent, it was like, oh, he's going to go here. I think the Bucks are now here because like, oh, he's going to go there to win a

ring. Yeah. If you're ring chasing, that's a new destination. You go, I think, I mean, the list for me starts and ends with Pittsburgh Steelers just because I know JJ Watt and he's going to want to go play with his brothers and have them rub that in our faces. Like the Steelers are going to get every single primetime game. They're going to play a 16 primetime games next year if they have three Watt

brothers and we're going to get sick of it. But that's like, that is the quintessential JJ Watt destination. Like let's go finish out my career with my two brothers and have my parents come to every single game wearing like triple jerseys. We might see the first ever, ever triple jersey that represents all the kids there. I could also see the Tennessee Titans. I could see him going there.

They, they'd swung and missed on Javier and Clowney last year, but you know that he loves Rable and you know that he would go to the Titans just so he could stick it back East would be twice a year. And, and you know that, you know, that Vraves would let JJ catch at least like three touchdown passes next year, too much something that he'd really like to do. Nope. Too much respect for the Texans fan base. You know that he's got too much respect for the Texas because the Colts are also

one of those, see the Colts, I feel like the Colts are, are officially the team that everyone is pointing to. Like there are one quarterback and one impact player on defense and maybe one awesome wide receiver away from a Super Bowl, which I love whenever that team arises because it's like, well, so they're kind of, yeah, they're kind of far away. Just name the three most important positions and they need like a slightly better head coach. Yeah.

Yes. No, so I think that he would go to the Titans because he does love Vraves. Vraves, you know what? He can always make the case like me and Vraves. It's like Houston light, you know, like Vraves moved up there after he was a Texan, he's a Texan for life. I'm a Texan for life. This is just where Texans go when you put us up to stud.

And I was talking to, to Brian Mitchell, the old Washington football team guy on Friday and he was like, I would absolutely go within the division. I was like, yeah, no shit, Brian, you did it to go to the Eagles. And then you got mad at the Eagles. So then you went to the Giants, you did it twice. So of course you think that JJ would do something like that. But I think it's like the Steelers. Yeah, you have to say the Packers because not only like the Wisconsin ties,

but you know that JJ sees every preseason JJ sees the players doing the bike thing. Yeah. Or they ride bikes with the kids. JJ is going to buy every single bike in Green Bay and just give every, every child that goes to every elementary school bike and have a big JJ watt bikes for Tikesday. And you, and you do have to say the bear is because of his wife and also Ryan Pace will undoubtedly pay the most. Like it would absolutely, like the market will be wherever the market is.

And it probably won't be like, you know, I would imagine he gets an incentive laden deal and he's, you know, I mean, JJ would admit himself. He's not obviously in his prime anymore. His prime was something that was one of the greatest primes that defensive players ever had. He's never going to be that JJ watt anymore. So that's the perfect time for Ryan Pace to be like, yo, I'm going to give you $50 million just so I can tell people that we have

Khalil Mack and JJ watt on the same line. And that will sell some more tickets. I mean, what you said about the Colts was pretty true about the bears too. They're like a quarterback, a wide receiver and impact defensive player away from a new front office. Front office. Yeah, I think, I think that, um, yeah, you should probably include the bears in this whole thing.

Although we, we have to refer to his wife, uh, Kayla watt. We have to refer to JJ's Kayla Watts husband. If you go to Chicago, correct, make sure to do that. Correct. Uh, all right. Other news, uh, Urban Meyers, uh, hiring of Chris Doyle turns out the NFL is a little different than college football. Who would have thought Urban Meyer got slapped on the hand.

Uh, and of course the, the framing of it was Chris Doyle gave his resignation, uh, after realizing it was a distraction. No, you all re Urban Meyer realized that, uh, maybe I can't call every shot and do whatever the fuck I want in the NFL. This is maybe a little different than college football. So good start for Urban Meyer. And by that, obviously, I mean the worst start possible. Uh, but he did, he did get to stand.

Did you see Trevor Lawrence's pro day? So Trevor Lawrence was throwing missiles. He has 10 inch hands and then Urban Meyer stood essentially like he basically was teabagging the, the, the pseudo center who was snapping him balls, asserting his dominance, uh, amongst the NFL scouts, because there was no one else on the field besides clumsen players and staff. And then Urban Meyer standing front and center being like, this is my guy. Why would you even go to that workout if you weren't Urban Meyer?

What's the point of sending a scout there? Like, you know, it's like the most obvious thing ever. If you, if, if Urban Meyer does not draft Trevor Lawrence, then someone's going to trade up to number two and then they'll take him there. Like, what's the point in sending anybody out there? He's obviously going to take him. Yeah. Urban had quite a weekend.

The only, I'm kind of upset, uh, that we haven't gotten an apology for the apology yet from Urban. He's the best at that. Bar none. There's nobody better in the history of college football or the NFL. No, the, the apology for the apology. That's urban territory. Like in the apology that the Jaguars put out actually did leave a little bit

to be desired. It was just like, it said, we didn't vet him enough, but their statement when they hired him was we thoroughly vetted him and we're confident that this is the right guy to have for the job. He's known for 20 years. But yeah. So now I'm in the position where I'm just sitting around waiting for Urban's apology to the apology.

And it's, you have to question if he's still got it, it's taken him 48 hours and I still haven't gotten a note set for him yet. So, um, let's get, let's get to work on that urban, make it a little bit better. Uh, but yeah, he was definitely, he was asserting his dominance of prototype. He was like, this is mine. This belongs to me right now. He might as well have had Trevor Lawrence on a leash, but some of the passes that Trevor was making was like, I'm back in love with Trevor Lawrence.

I fall in and out of love with college players, like very, very quickly, depending on what I just saw from them most recently. Like, uh, in, uh, Trevor Lawrence's last game they played against Ohio State. I was like, Oh, he looks like crap. Maybe he's a bust. I was going to call him a bust before I ever got drafted. And then he threw that like 60 yard pass on a dime. And I was like, yep, the truth.

See, I think he was actually not even that bad. I, the, the game against LSU was bad, but the game against Ohio State, like his offensive line didn't give him any time. I actually thought he looked okay in that game. I've always, I mean, it's not, it's not crazy to say, like Trevor Lawrence is going to be very good. Yes. It's not a hot take, but I've never fallen out of love with Trevor Lawrence.

Also his brother, if you've ever, if you've never seen his brother, his brother's like maybe the coolest guy ever. He looks, he's just Trevor Lawrence. If Trevor Lawrence decided he was going to be in the luminaries. So it's, it's, it's a very cool family overall. The other, he's a very, he's a very cool hat guy. Like I'm talking like flat brim. Look, he's like a Charlie Whitehurst.

Yes. Charlie Whitehurst had like decided to not pursue an NFL career. That's exactly what he would look like. And I actually, over the weekend, I started watching Yellowstone Big Cat. I don't know if you've watched it yet. Really good show, but there are hats everywhere. And I got, I bought my cowboy hat. Don't, I thought we need a cowboy hat guy in the office.

Hank's saying yes. Oh my God. Like, I don't know. I put it on. I watched two episodes of our hat guy, by the way. Yeah, but, but he's not a cowboy hat guy. I was getting old too. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Yeah. PFT is a lot younger. I wore, I wore it for two episodes of Yellowstone. I just put a cowboy hat on and watched Yellowstone and I felt good. And I was like, this is dangerous PFT. You're getting, you're getting dangerously close to start walking around with a belt buckle and calling yourself big country again.

Uh, I don't know. I might have to be talked out of it. Yeah. I don't think. Do it. Don't. Whatever. Fine.

Do whatever you want. I just think that there's the weird hat guy is definitely, it's a hard thing to pull off and I don't know. I don't think any of us have that. It's not weird. It's big hat. No, I get that, but I'm saying there's certain types of people like Charlie Whitehurst, he can wear a cool hat.

Yeah. PFT, not Charlie Whitehurst. Ah, I don't know. He's got the hair. You think you're that cool? No, a big cat. You're, you're, you're mistaking a cool hat for a cowboy hat. No, no, but totally different.

No, no. Charlie Whitehurst hat is not a cowboy hat. No, I get that. I'll put it on. I'll put it on. Hat guys in general, like if you're going to go weird hat, you've got a, I mean, this is by the way PFT got a Brazzers password or Brazzers background. And when, when Billy, when he logged in, Billy was like, Oh, dude, Brazzers.

I told you, well, we can't see it because you got your Brazzers background. So here you go. Cowboy hat guy. That's like a, that's like a corporate one though. You got to get a, you got to get a, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that one doesn't. That's the one we got from the, from Jess Lockwood, my cousin. Yeah, but I can't, I can't wear like an actual worn in cowboy hat because

then everyone's like, Oh, all hat, no cattle. This one I'm saying, like I'm admitting to you. Yeah, I don't own a fucking cow. What do I look like? I'm the podcaster who wears a cool cowboy hat sometimes. I mean, give it a try. I just, you, you would agree, right? Like when you try to wear a cowboy hat or a weird hat, there's a fine line

between like regular look and trying way too hard. Yeah. I don't think I'm trying that harder from wearing a cowboy hat, but the cat, you also are the one who tells me like, if I wear a collared shirt, you tell me I'm trying too hard. No, I say you're, I, I'm holding them big. Yeah, he is. I am, I'm feeling very, hold on.

When you wear a collared shirt, I say who died because I thought you're going to a funeral because you don't, you usually wear like whatever shirts you get given for free in sweatpants. Like that's crazy. Yeah, so when you wear, when you wear a collared shirt, I'm worried that you're going to a funeral and I asked you who died. I think that's totally normal. I kind of like the cowboy hat look.

Okay. I mean, do whatever. What do you say, Billy? I'm literally wearing cowboy boots right now. So I can't, we clown you for those. I know, but they're very practical. If you have a practical thing to back it up, like, Oh, they have a farm. No, you don't have a practical thing.

Every time we do this, the snows deep in their high. So the snows and get into my boots as opposed to Tim's. Oh, one other note about, no, I want to keep it on PFT. No, I can't, because I can't fit the headphones on. Okay. And I've got the cowboy hat. I'm not deterred. I think you should give it a shot.

I'm just let, I'm warning you that there's definitely, you know, that fine line, I think it'll be a good friend by saying there is a fine line. I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to, if you start wearing a cowboy hat, I'm going to give it a solid two weeks and I'll give you my natural reaction. I don't, I don't want two weeks. I think that if it takes two weeks to get a reaction, I think we can all make that, that judgment call within like 24 hours. All right.

That's fine. But I think that like all, this is a very relatable thing. Like all friend groups have that one guy who's like, Hey, I'm going to try this wild new look and it's up to everyone else to be like, that doesn't work or it does. Cause otherwise then you end up with hat guy who just walking around thinking he's John Mayer all the time. Well, okay.

So this definitely needs to be like a clear line of delineation here. I'm not trying to be a cool hat guy. I am not a cool hat guy. I can't pull off like the felt black brim John Mayer. I can't pull off the Jason Maraz. He's a hat guy, the Fedora. I'm not Jason. Yeah.

One peacock feather coming out. It's the coolest look there is. None of us are cool enough to pull off a Jason Whitlock look. Maybe Jake, maybe Jake. Jake could probably do only if he was wearing like suspenders and a tie. Basic dresser of all time. Literally hoodie and jeans or hoodie and joggers. No, no, no, none of us dress well.

None of us are like sitting here being fucking Mr. GQ, Russell Wilson. I do think that if Jake was just wearing like a white dress shirt, a tie, black pants, suspenders, he could pull off the Fedora like the old school press. Sign that's like in the side of it. If you had like a big camera around his neck all the time, Jake could pull that off. We also we also have to just say like outright, like we live in such a weird bubble because we're bloggers and podcasters. So like we don't even know what normal is like anymore.

You know, I don't I don't even own nice clothes anymore. I don't own anything besides sweatshirts and jeans because I've never I haven't had to wear anything different for a decade. So we we're in a weird fucking like bizarro universe where people are looking at us like you guys all dress like shit. We know that we dress like, you know, we dress like 15 year olds pretty much going to whatever middle school. And you know what?

This is a classic case of post mostly football season. Like what we got? I'm I'm trying to find something weird to do because my mind is bored because I haven't been able to sit down and watch nine hours of football today. Yes, I'm now I'm wearing hats. That's where I've gone. Yes, one more note about Trevor Lawrence. So there was some nervous.

There was some some nervous as we went a little side, side veer there. There was some scuttlebutt about his height. So there was some talk that maybe Trevor Lawrence was too tall. So Jane Slater pulled pulled this up. There were 22 QBs that have been drafted since 1990 that are six six or taller. And here's the here's some of the names off the list. These are the best names. The most notable names, Mike Glennon, Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweiler,

Justin Herbert's good. He's coming up in a second. Derek Anderson, Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jamarcus Russell, Andrew Walter, Dave Brown, Jake Lutton, John Navar. He had a rocket arm. John Skelton, Jonathan Quinn, not exactly like the best. John who?

What? John Freeman, Jonathan Quinn, Josh Freeman, John Navar, Nate Sudfeld, Ryan Mallett, also rocket arm, Nate Sudfeld, John Skelton, Sean Mannion. Yeah, John Skelton. He started for the Cardinals, right? Yeah, you don't remember him. Hey, I think he was one of the one of the Carson Palmer backups where Palmer would get hurt and they'd toss him and be like, who?

Yeah, so but good news is Trevor Lawrence, actually official height was six, five and five eighths. So he doesn't he's not he's not too tall. Yeah, so officially not too tall. I guess the argument is if you're six, six or taller, then you've just got a weird that that turns into like a weirdly gangly body unless you're thick, unless you're a big boy like Ben Roppelsberger, who's got to be his big Ben like five.

Yeah, he's five. It's it you know, it is. I think it's just throwing motion. Like it's impossible to do a short throwing motion if you're six, six. Actually, Billy, go ahead. Yeah, I know you're chomping at the bit to break this down for us. Well, big Ben is six, five, two, four, you won. That's his listed weight.

Honestly, that's like when I tell people I'm 230 and they're like, sure, dude. That's big. That's what big Ben weighed in at like his senior year in high school. And he just kept that going. He's like he never showed up for way and day. He was like, no, it's in the media guy from last year. Check it out. I'm going to be honest.

This is a little Trevor Lawrence kind of gives me Paxton Lynch vibes. Oh, don't say that. Now, that's the worst thing you could say about anyone. No, literally the worst thing it does. He kind of he kind of has the same sort of build as Paxton Lynch. And, you know, going like, I've been, I've been thinking about this a lot because I'm a jet van. So like I've been thinking about Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, way too much.

And look, your best case scenario with Trevor Lawrence is Tom Brady. Your worst case scenario is Paxton Lynch. Wait, that's okay. So he could either be really, he could be all that great or just the worst matter back after Billy's actually, Billy's making a lot of sense. Big cat, you're laughing at him, but he's right. You have to admit that he's right. No, that was an anti-take.

That was an anti-take. You didn't say anything. I think you said that he could be out of the league in a year or you could be the greatest of all time. There's that's an anti-take. There's no, there's no, everything is in between. I know, but the thing is like packs, but it's like a little more towards Paxton Lynch, because we don't know.

Wait, okay. All right. Now we're getting somewhere. So he's more likely. His throwing motion reminds me a lot of Paxton Lynch's and that's just because it's, it's crazy to say, but you know, they're around. Paxton Lynch was a little taller, but you know, a third of an inch. Yep.

Right. But we get to the point where it's like Paxton, like Paxton Lynch, I think is a very good comparison just cause they kind of like are built the same. Okay. They have a better, listen, I'm all right. I'm coming around to this just because Billy, the, the, the best thing you can do in media is to be different. Everyone is talking about, about, about Trevor Lawrence being one one, being

like a future can't miss. They're saying best pro prospects since Andrew Locke, all this stuff here on part of my take, we have him comped out as Paxton Lynch. Right. But like, of course, he could be amazing. He could also be good though. I think Justin, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he could be the greatest of all, I

think, no, but the thing is he needs a supporting cast to be good. Yup. Right. Right. But you know, I don't see him just like bringing electricity to an offense, like making plays with his feet. Like even when he has no blocking, you know, I just, I'm a little skeptical. But hey, if the jets get him, I'm so down, but I think there's other.

They're not going to get him. Also, Billy tossed. This one in here, say I could be wrong though. I hope I'm wrong. say that you hope you're wrong. But I think if you look at Paxton Lynch's throwing motion and Trevor Lawrence. Also also this is just this is Billy right now resorting to squatting on the take that he had six months ago that Justin Fields would be better fit for the Jets. Yeah because also Billy don't

don't forget Trevor Lawrence hasn't lost enough. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah we've had a supporting task like you could be a good quarterback on a bad team or a bad quarterback on a really good so that's why you like Justin Fields more who had no supporting cast. No I just think Justin Fields could do more by himself. He could like Justin Fields I think you could make the exact same argument for just basically the only you should take Zach Wilson. Yeah well I don't think he I don't think he's a good enough athlete. I'm a Trey Lance guy. I think we should become a Trey Lance podcast. Billy actually can

you can you do us a favor so I know that like you know you still probably need some time off after putting your body through hell becoming a weapon. I want you to take as much time as you need but I would like you to do like a John Gruden quarterback camp type where you evaluate every quarterback and give us a strong side weak side with some film comps and like how they project to the next level. Can you do that. I would actually yes yes I want that on the take you to look at other variables that nothing to do with football. No no no whatever you want. You do football. We'll do it together because there's no

chance you'll do it on your own. So we'll do it together. You do the football and PFT and I will sit in the quarterback room as the guys behind Gruden who like who are like hey what about this. What about that. We'll feed you some facts and then you'll come up with a great OK. I can't wait. All right. Do you think we can get interviews with the actual quarterbacks and have just give him to Billy. Yes. Yeah. We should definitely if we ever do this as a cloud. Yeah. Let's get low. I know last question Billy. You verse Trevor Lawrence in a fight. He's got to reach. He is taller. All right. Let's let's do. I do

also think that the long hair makes you look a little bit shorter. Yeah. Yeah. I know. He's going to get a haircut. Also like a look at me move. I don't and I don't get a big time. It's a big look at me move. Cowboy hat. Yes. Yes. So you got to take that into account. Yes. All right. Let's get to who's back. We're going to do some. We're going to have some segments where segment heavy show. I've actually had some people be like hey wonder segments coming back. Guess what. Today we've got five segments. We got Justin Herbert Aaron Donald Aaron Donald interview. We only had like 10 minutes

with him because it was Super Bowl media week and we remembered what Super Bowl media week is like. But let's do who's back before we get to both them. Who's back is brought to you by cash app because the cash app is back. The stock market is back. Investing through the cash app is back. And you can buy and sell Bitcoin. I've been buying Bitcoin on the cash app every single week. I buy Bitcoin by a little bit of Bitcoin. That's going to be a boat someday because I've been a boat. Yes. It's going to be a boat. So if you go download the cash app you can invest in the stock market. You buy stocks super easy to do and you

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sport of the future. But you know Chris Hogan big differ. He played in the NFL. He's a Super Bowl champion. He is choosing to instead of continue his NFL career. Yes. OK. He's opting. He has declared for the Premier League lacrosse draft. Chosen. Yeah. He declared. He didn't know and declared for him. He declared on his own. But who. He just said choosing. Yeah. Well it was chosen. So Hank I actually had this as my people forget that that people forget that Chris Hogan played football because now I haven't heard anybody talk about Chris Hogan being a football player in a while. He's a lacrosse guy. He just took a vacation

to play in the NFL and win two Super Bowl rings. But yeah I'm I think that we have to draft him. Right. Yes. On the water dogs. Otherwise like what is the point of this entire show this entire podcast. We have equity in the water dogs whatever whatever we have to do to get Chris Hogan on our team. We have to do it. Well we have to smoke screen because we actually we if you if you own another lacrosse team or if you governor another lacrosse team just disregard everything that we just said because we have to we can't let them know that we want to draft them. Should we downplay draft

stuff. Yeah. Be like does he really love lacrosse. No one went to his birthday party. Yeah. No. He I heard he's actually going to just he's doing this for show. He's going to end up going back to NFL. I think he's just going to be a short stick defensive midi which isn't going to be much contribution. Now he doesn't have the stick skills to hang with the pro lacrosse players. Now you're now you're just being mean Billy. Now we have to downplay. But once he gets on the team you'll have to answer for all that. You should stick to something that he knows. He knows it's business. Billy you got to stick to

something like his mother was a prostitute. Wait. Wait. Is he is he really are all those things you said true. We'll cut this but like is he bad. No. I mean I mean I don't know how I watch this Penn State tape. It's pretty it's pretty legit. But what would you do. Like Jim Brown is his piece versus me playing lacrosse. Where would he be. Exactly. He'd be he'd be somewhere in the middle. All right. I'm in talks of getting us to call a game. I know Paul are able to mention it a couple of years ago. So I haven't forgotten that. Yeah. Would we have to go anywhere. Maybe. No. When you say in talks Jake is this you

just the talks of these talks. This is the talks. No I don't know. I've been in talks. We're in talks. I would love for you to call a game with you guys. Right. But that means I'd have to watch an entire game. Yeah. Jake. If you would I do it. That would be great. You guys can go. You guys can do it. I that would be great. That would actually be great. And I'll watch the highlights. You know what you know would really help actually the possibility for you guys to be able to do show like that together. If Billy if you change your name to Jake like Mike and Mike it always it always made it pop a little bit more when Mike and Mike were

in the booth together doing something. So it was if it was Jake and Jake or if it was if Jake changed his name to Will and it was Bill and Will. Oh that's good too. Yeah. That'd be really good. All right. Good. Who's back Hank. Thanks. PFT. My who's back of the week is we need to we need to reset the counter as a podcast. Oh. We need to zero days without an accident your pants on the Peloton. So so I was pushing hard maybe a little bit too hard. I'm trying to get back in a shape. I eat salads all week with the exception of Friday where I had a nice big steak. But yeah I was healthy and fajitas and margaritas. No. Correct.

It was a cheat day Hank. It was cheap. Yeah. I mean yeah but I want to say that during the week though I was eating two salads a day basically I was going almost no carbs during the week and so trying to get back in a shape noted all season happened and that's something that we can acknowledge that happened. But now it's time to remake my body and so I've been on the Peloton a lot and it turned into an actual buns of anarchy at the very very end of the ride today. I think that's totally fair if it's workout. Yeah. It's not you just you just know no limits. Yeah. It's a type of stuff that doesn't show up in the

stat sheet is right. This guy pushed himself so hard that he shat. So I think that's totally fair. Yeah. It's a it's a whole cycle. Yeah. All right. Billy do you have a who's back. My who's back to the off season. Oh no. My who's back was going to be Hogan. Oh fuck dude. Damn. All right. My who's back is Jordan Spieth because he was back for about 12 hours. Max Hall was back too. Yeah. Jordan Spieth though was back. I didn't even realize fully realize how bad Jordan Spieth has been for like the last five years. He hasn't won a tournament since 2017. He was leading on Saturday going into Sunday. Didn't

win but he was back for like 12 hours. And I guess everyone's saying like he's watch out. Jordan Spieth might actually win a tournament again in his pro career. Well he was the future of golf for a little bit. He was like who's next. Yeah. When he won that Masters right. So like I hope he comes back. I'd be good for my underarmor stock assuming they haven't thrown him off the cliff yet. But yeah. I like I guess I like Jordan Spieth. I think it's always so hard for me to figure out like when it comes to individual sports like golf or NASCAR like how do I pick somebody to be like I'm I'm just a big fan of that

person. So I already got Brooks. I already got Max. I think we're all homosexuals on this podcast. So like how do I determine whether or not I'm rooting for for Jordan Spieth or not. I think I like him. No. So I think everyone likes Jordan Spieth because he's been so bad and such a head case for so long that he gets the pity like. OK. So the country likes him now because it's it's like whoa dude you haven't won in how long. They did a graphic on CBS. It was so mean. It was like Virginia has lost has lost as a one seed to a 16 seed and won the tournament all within the last time that he's won the

tournament. Yeah. I think he falls into the category of like it would be a good story to see him come back. Correct. Correct. Yeah. It's actually a great lesson in life like if you can't be consistently good be good for a little bit and then be so bad that everyone feels bad for you and you'll get that vote. Now he's an underdog despite the fact that he's won millions and millions of dollars playing golf. It's like man I really hope something good happens to this guy who plays a sport for a living. It also made like I think it also I know myself personally I did this like he when he was good it was OK to

make fun of the fact that he was balding very prematurely. So but now that he's been bad it feels yucky like I feel yucky that I did that. So I think we're all kind of like hey remember when we made fun of his hair because we thought he was going to win every tournament and like be a billionaire. Well I'll take a mulligan on that and say I'm going to root for Jordan Spieth. Yeah. Yeah. You know what it's good to see him back in contention. I hope that he I hope that he remains competitive. That's what I'll say about. Yes. Yes. Jake did you have a who's back. Yeah. I have two. First up sister Jean. Yeah. Well they lost

today but they won Saturday. They're in great shape to make the tournament. She was on game day. She's a hundred and one now. So expect to see her make the media rounds these next few weeks. I hope bad loss to Drake though. Like they was they now have the best player and they were up at the end. They blew it. Yeah. But they're they're they're in good shape to make the tournament. If they make the tournament everyone's going to talk about that would really be pushing your luck if you have like a hundred one year old and you're you're wheeling her out in a pandemic in front of the media and cameras. Let's keep let's keep sister Jean

isolated for a while. He has got on her side. That I was watching that game. It is. I know obviously there's the debate which shouldn't even exist because it's it's like you can like two things at the same time. Like how can people watch NCAA basketball like NBA is such a better product. I know NBA is a better product but there are certain games the Draco Chicago game which I watched this afternoon where it was 45 45 in overtime. It was like whoa OK this is this is something. And then like last night when I was watching I was watching the the Nets vs. Warriors. That's it's a different sport. It is a different sport.

And more is your second. Who's back. Tim Tebow the Mets once again invited him to spring training. Let's go. Dude I saw Tim Tebow at the did you see Shaxe. Like he had like it was like a summer camp like party where he had people he had like a bunch of celebrities playing games before the Super Bowl and Tebow was there just taking it way too seriously. I did not see that but it doesn't surprise me. Tebow is back in a big way because so I subscribe to Tim Tebow's instant messaging service as I think most of you out there probably do. He's a little thirsty. Tim Tebow texts me like five times a week and if not I haven't

responded to him since the very first time they text it. Look at this. And he just keeps texting me nonstop. It's like chill dude. Well you know what it is to Tebow's gotta. There's definitely a part of Tebow that's like this Trevor Lawrence thing doesn't work out. Urban's probably gonna call me. I mean Tebow should be the ceiling for Tebow is being a Jack Easterby character coach that like that swindles his way into the front office of some NFL franchise. Yeah. He just he keeps texting me about sex trafficking. It's like dude Tebow. I haven't been thinking about sex trafficking but you are certainly making me think a lot

about it. Yep. Yep. Save the children. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. First up we got Justin Herbert. Then we have Aaron Donald before we do that. Verizon Verizon 5G. If you're a mobile gamer you've heard every excuse under the sun they're hacking this game is glitchy but the lamest one by far is blaming your losses on lag. Eliminate the excuse with Verizon 5G the 5G that changes the game now with unprecedented performance of 5G ultra wideband the fastest 5G in the world built with massive capacity ultra fast speeds and ultra low lag for console level gaming on the go so no more network shaming when you get knocked

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Los Angeles Chargers it is quarterback Justin Herbert he's here with us from Shrive Bill Tong which is a snack that relies on nutrition training and fuel for his professional athletic career what now what is this this basically beef jerky first off thanks for having me I'm excited to be here and it's it's a bill tongue it's a little different than jerky and it's got all the protein but none of the sugar and I'm excited to join their team because it's a perfect snack for me workouts practice whether I'm dolphin fishing hiking it's just an easy snack that I can go to to get all the nutrients I need dude you nailed that

you know tongue is it's the working man's beef jerky it's one of my favorite snacks so if you guys have any send me some you crush that you crush that like I can tell you've done this so good job on that thank you all right so let's I first I want to just I have to get this out of the way I called you a bust because you beat my Badgers in the Rose Bowl and I was very upset about it the comeback game your last game in college so I said you sucked and I was rooting for you to suck you proved me wrong very quickly so I just want to get that out of the way because I feel like it's important at least say that so my bad but really like

that was fucked up that you guys came back and won that Rose Bowl because all I want to do is win a Rose Bowl well I really appreciate you saying that and I know that probably wasn't easy for you but no not at all it wasn't no I mean the Rose Bowl no matter who you play and no matter what happens it was just a great experience to be there it just happened to be against Wisconsin and they're an incredible team and just for us to be in that game it meant a lot to us and you know at this past year been tough on everyone but I've had a lot of fun and I've gotten better so I appreciate that okay all right yeah I switched pretty

quickly in my defense I switched pretty quickly after you started coming in and just throwing lasers all over the field so I am team Justin Herbert now I want it on the record that's big time I really appreciate that that means a lot coming from you yeah right like right right off the bat I think it took us maybe one or two games you're like okay this guy's got poise that was game one then game two was like this guy's got moxie we upgraded you moxie and then game three it's like this guy is the truth so now you're at the truth level it takes it usually takes like a full season to get there with us but we upgraded you

pretty early the only the only qualm I think that we had with your game that we really knocked on is you just you hate sliding you just love running people you haven't learned yet that like sometimes it sucks to not slide but it's fun watching you play has there been like a hit where you're like hey maybe I should give myself up like maybe maybe a yard and a half early that's a great point the very first game against the Chiefs I was third and short and I thought I could just get the first down and I took a linebacker head on and I found out then like I should probably never do that again and I've gotten

better over the year but yeah you're right and you know I need to slide more and my ability is my availability and so just being smart on the football field this is what I need to do so that first game against the Chiefs everyone you know the story goes that you found out essentially like 20 minutes before was it that was it that close to kickoff and that close to starting that it was like okay Tyrod's not gonna play you're in Justin you got to go against Super Bowl champs it was right before the kickoff so maybe 15 to 20 seconds we're about to field the kickoff and coach Lynn comes up to me and tells me Justin you're going

in and I didn't know whether they had planned that the entire week and just not told me because I didn't really get any reps with the ones that week but I mean I just had this great big smile on my face like I'm ready to go and and they're all like alright Justin focus up like knock that grin off your face like you're about to go in so okay so that leads me to this question because I have a theory that quarterbacks young quarterbacks there's a there's a period of time where you don't realize like you're supposed to make young quarterback mistakes you're not like you're actually like just too dumb to

realize like hey maybe this actually I shouldn't be playing this well did you feel that where you're like I'm just out there balling like the there's no real pressure here I'm just having fun and doing what I've always done that's a great question and I think the best thing about it was I looked at it and I said you know no one's really expecting a whole lot for me I've got nothing to lose I can go out there and I can have fun and I'm playing in the NFL and this is a dream of mine ever since I've been a kid so what do I what do I have to lose and I just go out there play moves relax and you know if you work hard you do

things right on and off the field good things good things will happen so it kind of funny the way things worked out yeah yeah what was that like it right when you got into the game and you obviously didn't get those reps with with the first team and they don't really have plays scripted for you like they would for a for guy that went into the game as a starter I didn't have to make some adjustments on the fly or like how did that hit you in that first series yeah for the most part we stuck to the game plan our quarterback coach Pep Hamilton we we walked through everything and we talked about the game

plan so much that so that when I went in I was ready to go in I actually tell the story all the time I go into the huddle and Hunter Henry looks at me and goes what do you what are you doing out here and it was just one of those things that you don't really want to hear is as you go in the huddle yeah I would imagine so as a rookie what's you know we hear about the difference between college in an NFL speed coverage what's harder though is it the different types of defense are throwing at you the different coverages or is it the just physical speed of the defense and like the defensive line especially

yeah that's another great question I would say probably the speed of the game I mean both are tough but you get guys on the edge that are just as fast as they can possibly be and I found that out early if you get too deep in the drop and you sit back there you got edge rushers that are gonna come and knock the ball out of and then also you got coverage guys that you can get away with things in college that you just can't get away with in the NFL that's just it's just experience and learning and playing through it to get to that level yeah we're always here about the difference between like being open in college and open in

the NFL can you explain like what is open in the NFL yeah it's it's maybe a couple of steps here and there and then in college you get guys that are wide open few steps ahead of the defenders and the windows are just smaller in the NFL and tiny bit of separation the guys open you and you better hit them because you're really not gonna get a whole bunch of huge plays in the NFL and so it's just kind of taking what you can get here and there so that's that's probably one of the biggest differences was there a specific jersey at Oregon that made you feel like you could like would never lose in or that you the whole team felt

like they played veteran yeah I would say the stomp out cancer ones my sophomore year they were all white with the chrome helmets and it was just it was just a really good look and we went out there and we jumped on Nebraska I think 42 to 14 in the first half and we were just playing pretty well in those okay so it is true now is there it was there ever a jersey that you wouldn't say it because you know you're an Oregon doc and Nike and all that stuff but maybe there's a little part of you like this really what we're wearing you know yeah like you said I was a big fan of all the jerseys unfortunately the one that we never got

a win was the Oregon duck when we wore the orange socks and cleats Colorado my freshman year and we lost in those but I like the idea I supported them dude I'm looking at these I'm looking at these right now the nebrat the ones you wanted to practice those are clean I you guys would never if you wore those you would win every national title have you gone back and looked at back in like the early 2000s when Oregon tried to introduce their second duck mascot to like cyber duck that was like yeah I think it was Robo duck maybe yeah Robo duck yeah what did you think about Robo duck any chance we could get him back

um you know I thought it was a good idea I think puddles the the main duck he's just he's too tough to be right now and I like the idea but I'm a big puddles fan yeah did you ever did you ever get lost in that locker room in Oregon after they redid it and made it basically like an amusement park all the time my first couple of weeks I got lost on my way to meetings and I had to end up going like 15 to 20 minutes early just to find my way um the end of the bills game so I had the over I really needed you to score there you ran a QB sneak when your entire offensive line was running past block who's who did it suck for more

mere you probably both of us pretty evenly you know that's one of those situations where you know we wish we handled it better there's some miscommunications from everyone on the field and it's just a learning experience for all of us and and you know it's unfortunate we didn't get to score and and we felt like we were in that game for the most part and fell up short and and we just had to learn from it wait was it your fault it was it was all of our fault it was my fault going out there and and we could have done better and and you know it's it's a tough learning moment but you know I'm better

because of it and the team's better because of it okay I think I'm gonna blame you I think I think I'm gonna blame you that's yeah uh-huh what about the uh the end of the Raiders game that was a crazy real like dove into the end zone I had you to score touchdowns a prop in that game and the over so needless to say that was a very exciting like two seconds for me um so just thank you for that I just wanted to say I appreciate it of course yeah how many interviews have you done in the last week that just have been bringing up specific plays being like dude what the

fuck were you thinking there because we had money on that this is the first one so it's okay good talk about it okay was that seriously though that that Thursday night game uh against raiders that was one of the craziest games that I think we had all year after that's over are you even able to like process like when you're watching the film uh are you able to like break that down like you would a normal game or was it just so unusual and so hectic that it made it like more difficult to learn lessons from a game like that yeah it was pretty crazy for sure but I think that the following day we ended up watching the

film and talked about it you know we did our best to just go through everything and and get a good beat on what we did well and what we what we need to do better the next week but that was definitely one of the most fun games of the year and just being in it and it's an incredible stadium they've got there and you know the raiders were always tough so a lot of fun there all right so my last question uh Justin Herbert offensive rookie of the year he's brought to us by stride bill tong I'm sure you've been asked this but we have to ask it is the hair coming back because that was

did you know you made a mistake when you cut your hair uh that the first off the hair is coming back okay but I needed to cut it it was getting long and we're kind of in a losing skid and I felt like changing it up but it helped me and it did we we won a couple games there here and there on that so um it'll come back and the best part about hair is it'll grow back yeah but did you you knew though like when you that first picture at the internet you're like oh this is gonna be a this is gonna be a day for me well I think the best part about that is is I kind of stayed off it I don't I

don't listen too much about what people are saying so you know it's a pretty negative place out there and I'm glad I kind of stayed away from it good listen I actually I actually had your back on the haircut I thought it showed uh it showed leadership that you went to your strength and conditioning coach and trusted him to cut your hair it's like that dude only knows how to do like a buzz cut like that's the guy that like showers with brillo pads his washcloths and just like cuts his hair off because it gets in the way of him day to day so I didn't mind the haircut but yeah people

have to get their jokes off of basher wait you don't even have twitter no no twitter damn good for you dude thank you that's that's impressive that's more impressive than anything you did on the field this year dude it'd be like I don't have twitter I'm good without it yeah I mean we don't obviously don't get as much news so I kind of find all the the news elsewhere but uh you know it's it's it's been fun though okay you must be happy all the time that's a great decision yeah don't ever don't ever log on just I want you to stay stay pure just the way you are I'll do that for sure

yeah and if you ever need like a couple watchdogs to just you know keep the streets clean for you we're we are willing and able to do it well I appreciate that that's that's huge okay all right awesome Justin thank you man we really appreciate it yeah appreciate you guys thank you thanks man thanks man seriously congrats on not being on twitter that's fucking sick thank you I mean it's just kind of a negative place sometimes and yeah had I read the tweets from you that probably would have hurt me so yes actually I don't know if I I don't

know if I roasted you that bad for that I yeah I don't think we roasted you that bad for but yeah it was um it's a very good decision not being on twitter yeah I secretly envy you yeah you like if I could trade anything like it wouldn't be your bank account or your rocket arm it would be the fact that you're not on twitter wow I like that I like that all right man have a good one yeah thank you guys that interview with Justin Herbert was brought to you by our great friends over at core core seltzer I've been seeing their ads on tv all weekend

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can you explain to us the backstory of of ready and and what people can look for in the stores? Sure from a first thanks for having us on from a from a sports drink perspective you know I think with with my background playing and obviously with Aaron and Yannis playing at such a high level elite players that they are we especially those two guys have an appreciation for what goes in their body and very particular about it and in regards to the sports drink category we felt there was a big opportunity to come up with

something that was game changing in terms of the source of energy typically sports drinks that just have refined sugars added we actually have a super fruit blend that provides the energy without all the added sugars we have no added refined sugar in the product at all none it's all from a super fruit blend and one of the kind of inherent benefits to that is it provides a lot of antioxidant recovery properties as well and then in addition to that rather than have just one electrolyte which we saw which we've seen in the

sports drink space we actually have a triple electrolyte blend that helps you know better mirror when an athlete you know sweats to replenish those electrolytes. Nice that sounds sick sounds delicious and Aaron you were actually involved in the making of the product too? Well with the ready sports drink you know I was pretty much with the flavors the taste as far as you know I'm real big into what I'm consuming what I put into my body so obviously I want you know nothing that tastes too sweet

you don't want nothing too hard it down to trying to find something that's right in between the middle so me having my input to figure that out with Pat was great you know even when it come down to the bottle shape and everything like that um get my input and so um I definitely was able to you know play a role as far as you know trying to make this drink right. I like that I like the the feel of a good bottle can make all the difference I remember back like when I was a kid there were certain Gatorade bottles that tasted better because they had like the

the little pyramid stuff on the outside that you could squeeze and it was really satisfying that's a real thing if a bottle feels good it's more hydrating. 100% what to get you some product if I thought we had a care package sent up for you it's what to make sure we get some for you. Yeah Aaron how are the ribs? They're getting better um you know this week this has been the best week so far so um definitely feeling a lot better you know feeling good. So can you tell us how that happened

because we did I did make the joke afterwards that you are able to dodge knives during training and uh then Russell Wilson lightly sits on you and you broke your ribs. No it was just where I happened um I hit him took him down I guess the way you know he landed on me and away my body twisted just happened how it happened. It was a freak injury yeah it was so because we all you know we watch you every Sunday and you are exceptional in like an Iron Man so when it happened like wait what the heck um but I guess it also is like if you're

if if you feel like you're hurt then I would imagine it would be something that would probably kill us like I I think if if Russell Wilson if that same thing happened to me I'd just be dead. No I felt it it was just you know I felt it like a weird feeling I kind of like I'm like the way it happened I like couldn't be it can't be not serious I kind of thought I got the wind knocked out of me so I tried to like gather myself then I started walking and it was like a burning feeling and I sat down trying to trying to breathe which is uncomfortable so um just trying to I

was trying to compose myself and calm myself down and see what was wrong and the pain wouldn't go away so I went inside and see what was going on from there so yeah rib injuries are weird they're like the most weird they're the most frustrating injury ever because it hurts to breathe it hurts to laugh I don't know if you had the hiccups at all when you had a rib injury that's the fate worse than death difficult to diagnose yeah very trying to take a crap yeah everything hurts when you've got a rib injury has that put a um a cramp in your workout time

because I know that you you probably don't go longer than like two days without working out ever in your life has that made you had to like sit back and and rest your body a little bit more than you would like to well no I really after the season um took two days off was back in the weight room training um this is actually this is the first week that I took off at all so this is this is my first week first week off since the season ended so um just trying to let my body heal a little bit more but um feeling good what's what's the longest that you ever

have been without working out at all like without picking up a weight what's the longest Aaron Donald has actually let his body rest um a week I did a week not a full week I usually I usually go you know try to go a whole weekend by like like a Thursday Friday I'm doing some type of weight back in the weight room trying to do something just to feel good so yeah um I randomly last night was because since it's Super Bowl week I was watching NFL Network and they were playing old Super Bowls so they were playing the one

a couple years ago against the Patriots and you were giving yourself a pump-up speech and you were telling yourself control aggression control aggression do you notice when you have uncontrolled aggression on the field well yeah I could notice that you know you just you lose it but um yeah a lot of things that I say to myself is stuff that my dad told me you know he's still telling me to the day but a lot of sins he told me um you know control aggression hard work pay off things I just they used to tell me as a kid

giving me my little prep speeches that I just talked to myself now like it was if it was like if he was talking to me so it's kind of weird different but um that's everybody motivated different ways so you should think about uh I know I'm sure that like you know shit gets talked back and forth on the line but you should at some point just tell the linemen across from you like hey just so you know I'm I'm doing control aggression right now like I'm controlling it you don't want to see me uncontroll it because I was I was watching the video and you were

pumping me up and I'm like holy shit like what is uncontrolled aggression from Aaron Donald probably the scariest thing in the world yeah just it's not too good but you know that's that's why you got to you know control it because you got to be smart you don't want to do nothing foolish to the point where you know you get a flag hurt your team yeah yeah what happens when you're uncontrolled aggression is there like something that you can tell on yourself like hey you've crossed the line bring it back control that aggression well

whatever happened it happens and then you you lay a shout out then after you you got to relax yourself and calm yourself down so it just occurred to me I remember watching a video of you a couple years ago when they implemented the new rules about how you're allowed to tackle a quarterback and how you're allowed to land on the quarterback and what you can and can't do and you were just like belly flopping on the onto the training dummy uh in practice it just occurred to me that Russell Wilson did that to you in a game and injured you by landing with his whole

body weight on you do you think that there should be like the same rule for quarterbacks that you're not allowed to land on defensive tackles no man it just it is what it is it just happened how it happened so um you know injury happened you know season's over so I'm just here you know trying to you know talk about my new ready sports drink you know here with my partner Pat yeah you know just talking about a great drink um I saw a video of you where you were jumping into a pool and you were you were saying that like you could play on offense is that

something that you've talked to coach McVeigh about like put me in a running back put me in a tight end well I've been trying to get get like a goal line package since my rookie years so I've been trying they just ain't taking a bait so um but trying to give me a little nice little goal line package for a while it just ain't happened so we got to get that going um have you talked to Matt Stafford yet obviously the big trade happened we are just so you know friends with Jared Goff so uh you know that was the Rams big loss

there because we're gonna always have Jared side but have you talked to your new quarterback yet um yeah I talked to him you know I talked to him so what'd you guys say we like now we just talk you know you just you know you know at the end of the day it's a business um you know I was nothing but the best for golf you know I'm gonna keep in contact with him um I'm more happy for for golf just getting a first start you know um you know I know this is gonna motivate him and push him so I know you're gonna do great things in

Detroit but um the switch happened the change happened from a business standpoint so um you know I talked to Stafford we said some things and that's what it is so I remember this week last year uh we had you and DK Metcalf on at the same time uh and DK was saying that he could bench press more than you do you think that after this season another year another you're getting stronger for you that you can take DK and a bench press yes he's a rival receiver I'm a defense alignment so

we live different you know yeah what about squatting you think you got out squat them too we live we live different so do you think that you're the strongest player in the NFL I don't know man I just know I'm pretty strong you know I stay in my own lane you know I know what I can do and can't do um I know what I need to do to prepare myself every season you know because I gotta work you know if I don't work I ain't gonna be productive you know the the better you get at this game the harder it gets because now you got that

much more attention um now more teams are trying to find ways to slow you down team players are trying to find ways that you know now allow you to make plays so um I can't allow myself to you know fall short of nothing I gotta continue to work you know continue to find ways to get stronger you get better so you know that production keeps continuing to stay at a high level so the other big change for the Rams this uh off season besides the quarterback position was your your defensive coordinator got hired by the chargers what was what was Brandon Staley doing this past year that

was so different and uh you know he was talked up a lot what was he doing that was so different schematically or just preparation wise that had you guys playing at such a high level coming into January um I think he we get well we had some great players right we had some great football players that was all playing at a high level I think he did a great job as far as um game game scheme and certain things and um been able to give different looks to offenses and and they they think one thing and and they see another um be able to do certain things to give

certain guys one on one's up front and I think as a as a defense I think guys were just making plays you know wasn't one or two guys it was multiple guys that was you know making a game changer player anytime of the game each week it was somebody different so when you when you got a defense like that guys is having fun guys is flying around no good things come out of that so you know that's what that's what that's what you guys were seeing so a quick follow-up to that can you tell when uh a coach has put you guys in a spot where it's like

if we just do this we're gonna be awesome like we're gonna succeed can you tell when a coach has everything lined up and you're like the trust is here they see things that are going to show up on Sunday and we feel like we're like almost a step ahead of the competition well yeah that's game planning you're going to you you study film um you have a game plan you go into then you once you out there playing the game you get a feel for what's going on um you see what the office is giving you they see and vice versa so um playing the game getting a feel for

like that you see a lot things like that so yeah is it is it actually fun for you if you have a game and let's say you're getting double and triple teamed the entire time and uh you don't put up any tackles for loss you don't get a sack but your defense plays well like do you have fun in that game as as they've clearly like game plan to take you out of it but your other teammates are still having a great game out there like is that fun for you for sure you know obviously i want to be out there i want to make plays i want to be the guy making but as long as

somebody's doing it you know that's all that matter you know i'm doing my job you know if i'm out there and i and i take a double team or triple team whatever the case may be and the guy's able to wrap off that and make a play or one of the dbs able to make a pick and make a game-changing play to help us win yeah i'm all for that because at the end of the day it's about winning you know the individuals success is great but you know the overall goal is to make it to to a super bowl and i and i can't personally do that by myself you know it's a team effort so i need guys around me too to make plays and um that's what it

comes down to i've always wondered about that if you're a guy that's getting triple teamed on a play do you have like a game plan in your head of in what order you're going to take these guys out like you have to pull some john wicks shit basically it's like i'm going to hit this guy in his chest i'm going to kick this guy in his shit and then put my my forearm in this guy's throat then i'll get into the backfield well well you you you just played a game you know when you when when you line up you you don't you're not expecting a triple team you're expecting to try to defeat the guy in front of you you hear different calls if

you know the slap retest is coming to you you know certain blocks from what i watched on film what i'm going to get so that all a counter into it so um you know you sometimes it might i might beat the first guy the center might slide you might be him and then might be like a back chipping or something like that that just um slow you down enough not to get to the sack but you know um you really can't do too much you just play your game uh all right guys we're gonna you're gonna have to wrap up excuse me i just want to say thank you okay cool all right thanks guys thanks so much take care all right thanks sir see you see

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off your order at 3G.com all right segments segments are back first up we have respect the biz for Tom Brady if you missed it one of the greatest clips that has been put on the internet came out on saturday night let's actually play it here and it takes a lot of work a lot of hard work a lot of hours go into it it just really upset me that this trophy was disgraced and disrespected by being thrown as if it was a real football i didn't sleep for the past two nights because of this i was that upset

because i i know the passion that goes into this trophy and how my dad and all his fellow silversmiths are so proud to make this i personally would like an apology not just to me and my family and the other silversmiths but to the fans that was 100 real that woman actually has lost sleep over the fact that Tom Brady threw the lombardi trophy to his teammate across water disrespecting silversmiths far and wide yeah respect the silversmith industry

big cat i think that i think that the lombardi trophy should never be touched it should be like that guitar and spinal tap it's not to be played don't even point at it don't even look at it you should just exist in a glass stand forever and if this lady thinks that the lombardi trophy was being disrespected by being thrown she should have a conversation with some NHL players about what the Stanley Cup has been through they you know what like me and you getting to drink out of the Stanley Cup

is far more disrespectful to a trophy than Tom Brady almost throwing it to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico how about the fact that Gronk dented it like a year ago two years ago i i love this lady though because she doesn't have the internet because there's no way that you do that interview if you know how the internet works you know what i mean like she she thinks that she just put that into a void and just shipped it off and it was like i just needed to get my thoughts out there i haven't slept it was appalling what i saw

and i just want someone to hear it she she doesn't know that like she dominated saturday night and that people were laughing at her and she's utterly ridiculous and i appreciate that type of person we just had Justin Herbert on he doesn't have twitter like that's people who don't even know what the internet is yeah and don't use it i respect so so much so i'm confused about the Lombardi trophy because there seemed to be a ton of them and that lady was acting like this is the only one like this is the real one that he threw but they seem to be like mr

smith's and the matrix where like they just show up everywhere i see like an interview with charlie casserly on nfl network and he's got like two Lombardi trophies behind him in the background we should what's going on how many are there we should actually like if anyone can get us a couple we need at least a few in our in our studio i've been saying like we've been because if tom brady if that was the one Lombardi trophy like the actual one that they just give you for a parade and he had thrown it into the bottom of the ocean

i actually think that there's a good case to be made that they should invent a new trophy and just know that the Lombardi is sunk forever and now then that one's named after tom brady hank it yeah there you go but it's also crazy because i think she was she was essentially saying that her father made the first one but didn't make this one she he just made the first one okay so she's offended for the first one i would design it i don't i mean it's a foot it's a football on a stand right but it's a don't it's more than that it's sneaky genius

yeah i you know that is perfect you know what the Lombardi trophy has lost a lot of it's shine yeah yeah it's lost a lot of it's shine recently because it's always in the logo for the Super Bowl i see it too much yeah it's always in my face back when the Super Bowls had different logos getting to see the Lombardi trophy was an event it's like oh there it is oh i forgot what that looked like yeah exactly it's like a big reveal and i would have liked it if this lady had worked in

like some millennial bashing to her comments where she was saying like oh now that every kid gets a participation trophy athletes don't respect trophies anymore and they're just throwing them around like they're party favors right unbelievable unbelievable all right next up we have sorry not sorry this is from James Harden this is equally as unbelievable so James Harden did an interview with Rachel Nichols before the Nets Warriors game on saturday night which by the way Kyrie Irving has said that James Harden

is the point guard so he has he's essentially said like hey there's only one ball it's James Harden's ball except for when it's Kevin Durant's ball and also when it's my ball but uh James Harden said he is sorry for how his Houston Rockets tenure ended and quote said i don't like it at all because that's not who i am that is who you are you did all those things i so he said i feel like it could have happened a lot smoother a lot easier but it is what it is i does he know that he caused all of it

well to me that just speaks to my theory that James Harden has a twin a fat twin that steps in and fucks everything up for him when he needs somebody to be bad at basketball and he's like that's not who i am he's just like he's admitting it but yeah like that is that is what happened James you got fat James you got you got fat you ate your way out of Houston which is very difficult to do you stopped trying and then you said that the Rockets were just not good enough and it can't be fixed those were your quotes those are also you said taking private jets to

Las Vegas in between games and that's not that's not who he is check your personal day to go to the media the media is making him out to be like some guy that strokes in big situations that loves strippers and it gets unhappy despite having a 200 million dollar contract in the state with no income tax and that's not at all who James Harden is that is that is so bad in closeout games that it actually is believable that he was on drugs not that he was but it actually is believable because that would be a better excuse for just

i was trying my hardest and i sucked this bad so he finished with apologize for how it went down but i guess i had to do what i had to do in order to get where i wanted to go yeah that's not who he is for any of it you actually aren't sorry whatsoever you you're just saying the words sorry it's it's almost like like like a four-year-old being like i apologize but like they don't they're just saying it so they can get out of trouble that's not the real me like everyone thinks that they know somebody just because there's six months of on the

record conversations and hours and hours of game film that they can review but that's not who i am that's not who i am that's not who he is and it says i do like kairi saying it wasn't a mystical conversation because i mean the first thought i had in my head is like what type of mystical conversation did they have to determine who was going to be the point guard it is lunar new year i'm sure there was astrology involved well that's i mean it's similar to the guy who said that he wasn't a cat the lawyer said he wasn't a cat who i can't get out of my head but like dude if you or jim caldwell when he

said he was very much alive like if you say it wasn't a mystical conversation it was a mystical conversation you just told us what it was you're trying to get us to think it wasn't but it clearly was my t-shirt that says it was not a mystical conversation is raising a lot of questions that have already been answered by my t-shirt right exactly guys stop talking about the mystical conversation i don't know where you get that idea other than me saying it wasn't a mystical conversation uh all right uh

before we have a drunk idea we also have thoughts and prayers calling coward he had what what was his official diagnosis hit a blood clot and it's okay in his lung yeah which which i think he even said that might be because he's been doing so much high altitude skiing so he he had he it's a vacation injury he got a vacation injury thank you like happy lesson i like it to be like watching one piece with his first video and he's like yeah i got a blood clot it could be because i've been in veil just fucking dropping out of copters

and doing some sick ass tricks like what okay the powder and i went scuba diving in the bahamas so it could be something with that the change in altitudes with like my awesome lifestyle listen the powder has been too extreme up in aspen recently like it that's probably going around a lot amongst extreme sports athletes you're seeing it as a pandemic but stuff to have sympathy for a guy who's like hey i got an injury probably because i've been spending so much time on the fucking in breckenridge i mean too much too much soup could be an issue too

you inhale that soup it goes down the wrong tube it goes into the lung it's just basically like pneumonia that gets started there just accept it you know it's not like spit or bile that gets lodged in there it's just melga tony and that can get infected so i was a little upset because he kind of stole my shine as sportscaster fighting for his life this week but whatever he also like he did like daily updates where he's like look i justin herbert sent me a signed ball or like he even did one

tonight where he was like i'm going back to work i was supposed to have monday off but i'm going back to work fucking way to go colin but he did mention that he was having soup for dinner so he's all the way back okay good glad to hear that yeah he is really stealing your sign like there's there's a there's a lot of podcast there's a lot of podcasting lung injuries that are going around i could have done if colin coward maybe if he smoked a little bit more weed and chilled out on on the soup and all the cocktails that he's having ryan rocilla out in manhattan

beach maybe if you puffed a little bit if you blaze more colin that would train your lungs to be acclimated to environments where there's less oxygen yeah what are you gonna say billy uh i actually have a who's back of the week johnny manzell scored in the flash thing controlled football league this weekend yeah by the way the name what was the name of his team the zap was it the zappers zappers zappers the other team was owned by marshan lynch and they were the beasts i think the a really quick way for me to not

respect your football leagues to have a team named the zappers that's like a that's like a character from dug funny no it looked like it was a 1991 arcade game and they're and they're playing on like a 12-foot field it's an arena honestly i just love all football i'm i'm so i'm actually gonna follow this now no he was one for five throwing he scored he was one for five throwing i saw that because he was talking about it but he was he also said that like he felt washed up as he was running in the

game he's like man he's like man i really suck right now i got caught from behind i don't know why they're paying me to do that but win or lose the zappers booze that's what they say about the zappers everyone knows that illustrious uh franchise one of the founding franchises of what's the league called uh fan controlled fan controlled football league so i'm gonna i think you can like call their plays dude they really should bring back the arena league they should bring back the xfl yeah yeah billy the arena league was a little different where it's like you

know i don't know you just uh and actually i i didn't even watch it so i don't even know what i'm saying i didn't even care i didn't even care about your arena league but it was nice to know it existed yeah it was nice to know it existed big cat and i were actually offered to be owners of a franchise like a year and a half in the fan control do you remember that it was going to be richard sherman marchand lynch and then us i think owning a team and we just kind of we it was classic us because they were like hey do you want to own a football team and we just kind of forgot about it well they also if i remember correctly

they're like we're gonna pay you in sweat equity and you're just gonna talk about it a bunch yeah what okay that doesn't really that doesn't make any sense um all right i think i can play in this league all right sure now come on billy billy's just looking billy where's it located billy uh lost vegas yeah billy just wants to go to vegas that's that's what we're working with here serious question though billy if you did put on the pads and you went out there like what would your mindset be um you know

just a great all right he's figured it out never mind all right he caught on i was testing i had to test to see when billy would actually yeah i'm officially out of fight mode and sober and it's okay what's the joke's done yeah what is fight what's the difference between fight mode and now when are we when are you gonna start calling people out billy we gotta keep the momentum i know i i gotta get on the shortlist who's on the shortlist i mean of course the like honestly i'd fight a paul brother and i probably wouldn't fight anybody else what about a guy named paul dude hosey would you would you fight hosey in a rematch if hosey got zero dollars

i'm i'm actually sad yes winter take all would be actually be the only way bad now winter take off for zero dollars no i think i think you could i think hosey could you could legitimately rematch hosey but you'd have to be like a hundred thousand dollars all you can get and you have to win the fight i don't i don't want to i that was sad realizing that he wasn't like actually like shouldn't have been in a boxing ring by any means so billy you should actually just i don't want to i i sort of all it's it's you know i've centered my in your pussy you've been i'm a pussy no i just i he won't beat an old man up again i but the thing is i didn't know he was an old man i thought he was gonna kill me why why'd you think that

because he said he was like blunt force trauma to my brains i was like fuck bro like but wait you you knew that like once he hit you like he didn't have that i know but i i was in i was i was i was in wartime bro i was in the zone anyway but like going so going into the fight like you thought it's different from it is now because now you're like i could kick this guy's ass yeah going into the last fight you're like this dude is huge he's like six three yeah how am i going to be able to prepare for that i it's the whole thing i'm sort of i've i'm back to earth we're all good huh all right uh pfc you had a drunk idea real quick yeah i don't i don't know how good this idea is but it sounded good at the time and wearing a cowboy hat all the time well no it

was actually what while i was wearing the cowboy hat i thought it's on diapers it was yeah peloton it's actually a bike seat that's just made out of cloth it's it's a bike seat that's a giant tampon that goes up your butt hole while you're biking on it uh no it's um it's top golf but for other sports why why is top golf the only like thing that exists where you go someplace you play a sport and it's like an arcade there should be top golf but for like football where you're the core you're the quarterback yeah but bankages that that could be cool but like imagine they all gyms don't exist yeah imagine you have a football and then in front of you it's like this big field and there are people there are people that are like running routes and you can like hit the receivers

with passes uh you can you know just throw deep bombs they're net set up they keep score of every ball that you throw you compete against your buddies or like um yeah that's i think that exists does it well i mean like it exists in like arcades yeah but i'm talking about like a bigger a bigger i think you're just talking about davin busters and yeah well so the big thing is like at top golf you can play your sport but you also get to drink beer right so at top football you would have couches you'd have a whole setup you'd have a bartender that came out and then you also have footballs and so then you just like airmail like 60-yard bombs what about what so what would be the plan for the amount of fights that would break out in the parking lot between like high school

warriors who were like i was a fucking all-state that's it so that's the beauty of it the parking lot is top boxing they actually have a bartender out there and they're like ropes set up and gloves just like actually you know what a bar that you can go into and challenge somebody to a fight and it's all legally put on the boxing gloves step into the ring sell your beef i think you should have even more i think you should even be further after the after the top boxing in the parking lot dating app yeah it's also nobody it should be top medic because all these guys clearly think that they're doctors as well so they're like oh dude that's just a shoulder strain like we'll get you fixed up here it takes some hgh yeah i love that perfect it's just billy's camp

yeah you're just talking about billy then they have like top top sex after after the after party where you can come with a girl um fuck top fuck the uh the michael vick experience from nike yes that is kind of like what you're doing right you're just effective of being a quarterback yeah yeah i mean that'd be it would be fun as shit yeah it would it would be very fun um all right i'm i'm in let's wear investors let's do it top football top football all right that is our show we'll see everyone wednesday there's rumor on the street might even talk a little hockey on wednesday with a good friend of ours ryan whitney probably heard of him probably heard of him uh all right we will uh see you guys then love you guys oh are we gonna do do numbers oh yeah

let's do numbers i got it 14 8 32 raccoons hate tie-in pepper and irish spring soap bars yeah jj water i told us that seriously no he just said he's never used irish spring and he's basically a trash panda so uh all right here we go 99 86 18 32 i hope i don't get it 80 fuck 80 all right see everyone we'll be back together on tuesday we're in the office not you okay not you and not you no you can come back actually that's negative yeah it's not gonna work what do you have billy what do you have billy i did you think it was a little ridiculous on thursday where before the show started you're like hey guys i can't be there i've i've been i i need to put my life back together why what happened well i had to i turns out you know

i had to do this volunteer income tax assistant thing i had to get on the flight there's just do you think i played twice and you tweeted that yesterday that you finished it yeah no but i did one i have to do like a hundred billy do you think that like the last week you were in like a like i you felt different it felt different were you in like a different mindset dude honestly i'm just i'm just glad to be back to earth do you get a concussion that holds that gave you concussion yeah are you okay did you give yourself a concussion no training i need to get my nose fixed hmm that's what i need to do uh-huh you notice what happened to your nose i buckled my septum too much cocaine no i don't think you're in in college

do you think also he was addicted to cocaine did you do no i i i don't dude i did zero cocaine down florida zero i'm not a drug guy oh this is like the mystical conversation why'd you bring that up bro because you guys zero like what's the least amount of cocaine you can do i did less than that i did negative dude i just drink i don't have any other vices won't be working out well i mean berserker is definitely a vice yeah i don't think i'm gonna get there ever again in my life that was crazy when were you there last thank you guys for being so patient i was you know i was shacked in a fool you're fine you're fine billy i love you billy i got you know we're keeping all this in wait wait billy what are you spending your money on dude i've just i think i might i might bury it

like realistically if i could see billy burying a bunch of hundred dollar bills and being like well i i have an idea i i would like to talk to dave because no talk to us first well okay i was gonna cut this we'll cut this okay so i was gonna be like look i don't know what you Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, heyorell bowl