Pardon My Take - Kirk Herbstreit, MNF Was A Debacle, CFB Talk, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

The Bears and Vikings Played a horrible game of football but the Bears might be back (00:00:00-14:08:31). David Tepper fires another coach 1(4:08:31-00:20:14. We talk some CFB and a great Saturday to end the regular season (00:20:14-00:31:08). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a new list for what men should be and Hank got a computer virus (00:31:08-00:51:45). Kirk Herbstreit joins the show to talk about the College Football season, what could happen in every playoff scenario, who passes the eye test, Heisman, Al MIchaels and more (00:51:45-01:54:49) . We finish with guys on chicks (01:54:49-02:06:24).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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family of Chevy ZR2's the official trucks of Pardon My Take. Okay, let's go. It's part of my take. There's an about our Swiss sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Wednesday, November 29th. And the Bears might be back PFT. Yeah, their defense is back. I wish I loved anything as much as Matt Iberflus loves throwing tunnel screens. Well, yeah, Luke Getzi. Luke Getzi. Luke Getzi loves throwing tunnel screens.

Money I football was an abomination of football. Did it? Now I'm biased. It was like watching the Bears, Getzy loves throwing tunnel screens money. I football was an abomination of football that did it Now I'm biased It was like watching the Bears, but did it become was it so bad it became fun at any point? It was fun because you don't know what was gonna happen Yeah, you didn't know how the ball was gonna get turned over next what the Bears were gonna do in offense to squander great field position Yep, it was great pass at the end of the game Yes, like he threw the pass when it counted. So Justin Fields has to be happy about that.

But I saw I was addicted to just looking at Justin Fields passing charts after the game. And it was just green dots directly to the side. Nothing across the middle whatsoever. They say that they're, you know, they have confidence in them as a quarterback. You should let him throw the ball to the middle of field. Yes. Once in a while. Yes. And and of it is on Justin Fields, because there are times where it feels like he maybe holds on to the ball too long. And we've talked at length about his dropbacks being a little slower than everyone else's. But overall, and this is, so I've struggled with this because, and you, you correctly called

me out last week about being in the same spot again this year where it's like, oh, losses are good. We're in Groundhog's day. I'm actually happy they won. I know that you're happy they won. I am. Hey, you're happy they won. I'm happy they won because the bears might finally be done like in the total tank off and start actually playing some decent football. They're foreign foreign, their last eight. Their defense looks awesome. Montess sweat for the people who laughed at that trade. I think it's just, it was just general like knee jerk reaction because the chase clay pool

thing. The defense is flying around playing great. The offense has dudes. DJ Moore is awesome. Colcomat is good. I don't, we can talk about Justin Fields and what that means. But for the first time in a very long time, I am optimistic about the Chicago Bears and where they're headed because I think you can build off of what they've done defensively.

And Ryan Poles brought in like, Drain Evans and T.J. Edwards and all these guys that are playing well and, you know, a really good draft pick with Darnell Wright. I don't know what's going to happen with Eber Fluss. I think he should still be fired, but I am for the first time in a long time like, hey the Bears actually have, we're no longer just like a million pieces away. We're a few pieces away from being a good football team. Yeah, the defense is quarterback might be one of the big defense is really really good. I think that that's not a fluke and if you watch the camera on Ryan Poles throughout the game, there's no way for him

to know when the camera's on him. There should be somebody should let him know when they're focusing on him on the main broadcast because he was like just shaking his head like, I can't believe this shit. But then after the game they won and he looked like the happiest person on earth. Yes, they kind of unleashed at the end,

just enough to make it count. I agree that sweat is an impact maker on defense. I told you he was better than Chase Young. No, you were not one of those people. It was more the, I get it. And when you root for a bad franchise, you become the butt of a lot of jokes. People are like, why would they do this?

Why not just sign them in free agencies? Like, well, you don't know if he's gonna sign in free agency. You don't know what the price is gonna be. Ryan Poles was aggressive. He got a impact player that's gonna be very good in signed him long term. What I don't want to have happen is for all of us to turn on Josh Dobbs.

Because it feels like we're starting to have the conversation. I've heard a lot of people talk about like, well, maybe this is why Josh Dobbs has been on so many teams in the last three years. Now he had a bad game last night, very bad game last night. Very bad game. I still I still want Josh Dobbs around. I don't I'm not going to forget what Josh Dobbs did for America this season, taking just dog shit cardinals games and making them entertaining for us. That time where he filled in for Kirk cousins on like two day or not Kirk Cousins

back up back up came in on like two days notice didn't know the receivers names. I am willing to overlook a bad game or two from Josh jobs and just trust the process with him and just know that yeah he's probably not a long term situational starter for anybody but Josh job still has a place in this NFL and he's good enough to play. Yeah, he maybe should just not learn the playbook because we talked about this when he went to Minnesota and played well in the first couple games. And when he was in Arizona, he had been signed to the Cardinals like two weeks before the season started and played well in September. Maybe it's just learning the playbook is too much. What's the name of that learning curve where I think it might just be called the learning curve.

But if you start at a new job, sometimes you're really good at the start because you don't know anything. Right. So we ask a lot of questions. And then you think you know everything. You just play three football. So after you think you know everything,

then you get bad. And then you get good again once you do actually know everything. We need to find a way to get good again. We need to just keep him playing football in the NFL until he gets good again. Yes. I like that. And the Vikings, that was a, that was a bad loss of Vikings. Cause now you have the Packers and Rams breathing down their throat.

Great loss for the, for the Lions though. Great loss for the Lions. Uh, Lions have to play the Bears next week after the by week. I was just a ebber flu. His first divisional win. It was, it took 30 weeks, 30 regular season weeks for the Eber Fluss Poles combo to make good on their guarantee Ryan Poles and his introductory press conference said, we're gonna take the North and we're never gonna give it back. This is the start.

This is the start. I know people will shit on me for being optimistic here, but I really do feel like the first time, like I can see everything that Poles is doing and the defense building on the defense and having, like, having a true number one wide receiver, having a true number one tight end, having a really good, Darnell right, like it, it does still all come down to what they want to do with Justin Fields. And I could be, I guess I'm open to whatever the next coach, hopefully the next coach decides because I've talked myself into maybe doing Marvin Harrison and offensive

lineman and seeing if you could get Justin feels to take another step forward or if the new coach comes in and says we need a quarterback. All right, draft your quarterback, but they have a day again, it comes back to the fact that for the first time in a long time, the bears don't feel they're like three or four guys away, not 15 guys away. I think and it all depends on where you where the panthers finish up It looks like you're probably gonna have the first overall that's a that's a part that I don't care about winning because like we have that in our back pocket If you have the first overall pick, I think the move is probably to try to trade Justin fields and how many years does he have left? He's two I I believe. Two.

So see what you can get for him. If you can side on his option at the end of next year. Decide on it. And then, yeah, see what you can get for him. And then I think the new coach is going to probably want to go in a different direction. I also was very happy for Justin Fields because his defense has let him down a lot.

Last year, there was a lot of games where he played OK. And the defense gave up like 30 points. So it was nice to have a reversal where the fumble was bad, very bad. I think we all expected it to happen. And then the defense bowed up and they were able to win the game at the very end game. It's weird to think like is the first time in a year and a half where I'm like, yeah, I'm actually happy because for for culture wise, I know that tanking helps the draft pick. But at some point you have to win so that you just can start to shed the loser culture.

You know, it would be great though if somehow a coach was so good at tanking that they drew up specific plays and designed interceptions. Yeah, so the play is all right. You're going to hit this DB on Josh stops doing that last night. Yeah, so you got to hit this guy on this route and then that's going to give him a better chance to return it for six and see how well you can execute on your intentionally bad plays. That's next level shit. I don't think the NFL is ready for it yet. At the very end of the game, was your butthole just like a little bit tight when they started throwing the ball back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Oh, yeah.

Until they threw the flag for illegal forward pass, I just, I was thinking like, kind of like when we watched the jets on Black Friday. Yeah. This could happen to the bears. Yeah. It's going to happen to do. It seemed it could happen to the bears. I usually don't get nervous. So they're on like the 40, you know, the opposing 40. Yeah. They got to about midfield. But yeah, I'm, I know people are going to be like, what the fuck? Why are you being optimistic? I'm, I'm optimistic about the bears for the first time in a long time, I can see that the pieces are starting to come into place and Ryan Poles is doing a good job.

He's brought in some good free agents, trades, all that stuff. They do happy with each other in the group. They're honestly, I think they like each other, which is sometimes when you go through a season like this where you lose a lot, especially early on, you just start to like not be that pumped about coming to work. Like I've seen that before. And the one thing I'm nervous about is the bear's schedule at the end of the season is not that hard.

We have the Lions next week or after the by-week at home. And then obviously at Brown's, Brown's defense is really good, but we don't know who's going to be playing quarterback. Cardinals, Falcons, at Packers, like Maddie Prifus might be able to keep his job, which that scares me. I really want him to just be promoted to DC. I don't think he is. He's a really good defensive coordinator. He's doing stuff that Alan Williams never dreamt of doing.

Like he is coaching this defense to be, they're significantly better the last whatever month and a half, but yeah, that's not only, that's not my only concern. It's really comes down to this. The Bears have all the options in front of them. I can see all the pieces. I'm very optimistic. Now it's you have to execute and make the right decisions,

which we all know that could blow up in our face. It could, it could. And don't get me wrong, it was a shitty game. It was terrible. It was a really bad game. No, Bear should have won by like 21. You have a right to be optimistic about the future, but for most of America watching that, it was bad.

It was so bad that Troy just started laughing in the fourth quarter. Yeah, the offense was bad. I think they threw another like three yard loss on a screenplay to a wide receiver and Troy was just, he didn't have any commentary. He probably just wanted to reach out to the telescope and draw the dick and balls on it

because it was laughably bad offense from the Bears for a very long time. And they did it off to win great good for the Bears I'm happy for the Bears. I'm happy that I think you guys are actually head of us I'm miscalculated that because the first highbrickers not head to head No, it's a great place strength of schedule. Yes, so you guys are ahead of us by just a little bit. Who do you have on Sunday? We buy week by week. Okay. Yeah, we're we have the dolphins so we're gonna lose right now the the Patriots of the third pick the Bears of the fourth pick and the commanders of the fifth pick Okay, love it. Look at us also what a thought however look at us if you look at the top

Look at us Hank project go to the combine this year and actually scout. Yeah project Oh cap space for next year. I think that's the order that it's in to I think we're the top three mm-hmm Listen if you're buying if you're buying stock, you should be buying stock in our fandom right now. This room is about to become winners in three to five years. I use our good friend Tom Frennelli is safe space sounding board for a lot of stuff because, you know, we're both pairs fans working sports media. We we're saying maybe playoffs next year. So it's scary, but yeah.

Let me just, I'm having one good victory, victory Tuesday. What's your record right now? We're four and eight. Why not play off this year? Four and four in the last eight. You're in the hunt. Yeah, I don't think playoffs this year. I don't think that's gonna happen.

You're in the hunt. I'm just trying to talk you into it. Also, I, I, I, I told my son that we won the game and he was actually very excited. So, tanking maybe not. And then he got me back by asking to listen to Taylor Swift on the car ride to school. I think he's doing that to troll me. You got to separate the art from the artist with Taylor Swift. Great, great musician, terrible human being. Now we banged out some Taylor Swift. I turned it on. I'm not a monster. I was like, let's listen to some

Taylor Swift. All right. Good news for the Vikings. Justin Jefferson is back. Right. It didn't get. Did I get? I got a chef through a notification about him. I might have missed that one. This was his last week to be on the high R.

Okay. Okay. Jordan Addison looked good again last night for the most part, except for, well, that was more Josh jobs throwing them out of bounds. Yeah. That should have been a touch that was a crazy play. Yeah. He's, he's activated.

Okay. and then also Aaron Rogers said that anyone who says that he made up his injury can go fuck themselves. Okay. Yeah, I do that several times a day. Mm-hmm. So any other NFL stuff before we talk about college ball. Yeah, Bryce Young got the dreaded vote of confidence from his owner. So David Tepper gave a big press conference today, answer questions. They asked him about the choice to draft Bryce Young over CJ Stroud. And he made sure to say several times, this was unanimous. Everybody in the room said, unanimous. Sounds like he's he's trying to get out in front of the story that Frank Reich is probably going to say, which is I want he's going to say I wanted CJ Stroud. That's a classic former coach move. But, Tapper made sure to say several times it was unanimous, we all agreed on this. Do you remember that?

I think it was in Independence Day when they decided to nuke the United States because all the aliens, where the president was like, I need everybody to be unanimous about this because this is what I wanna do. I don't want somebody going to the press later. I think that's what Tepper was saying

during the draft process. Like we have to be all in on Bryce Young. So you tell me that you're all in right now, Frank. Yeah. Because like Sir, yes, sir, I'm all in. The, so we should say, what was the guy's name, the reporter? He's now officially off the hot seat.

Kunkel. Kunkel, who, his wife is native of you all. Yeah. So he tweeted us and was like, my wife was very happy to hear my name getting said, even though it's a fake name, Kunkel. But yeah, he is off the hot seat because he said he reported that Frank Reich's seat was on fire and we said that if he doesn't get fired on Monday, then Kunkel's on the hot seat.

Kunkel, you're on the cool throne. Well, thrown for sure. Yeah, but David Tepper is, I mean, he's so quickly become the worst owner. I don't know, I mean, Dan Snyder leaving helped. Yeah, helped out a lot. I mean, the bear's owner. Yeah, although they're like,

but they're not, they're a cartoon supervillain. Yeah, they're, they're passively bad. He's aggressively bad. Yeah, where like he's doing too much. He's there's a problem. There's a problem. There's a lot of owners that yeah, like you're like, hey, could you do maybe a more of higher the right people? He's like, I'm gonna just fix all these problems

by micromanaging and firing people. I'm gonna run the team myself. Yeah. Frank Wright, congratulations to Frank Wright. He's now double dipping on buyouts, good for him. Back to back years gets fired mid season. He's getting money from Mr. Urse, as well as Mr. Tepper right now.

I heard it a little rumor, Max. Maybe you can address this. Frank Reich, who do you used to be the offensive coordinator for? Eagles. Yeah. What about him going, is it coming home? I would well, another set of eyes. Right now it's looking like Johnson's gonna be

a top candidate for a head coach in the off season. I would have no problem Frank Wright coming home being an OC for the birds. I could see them bringing them in for the rest of the season as like an offensive consultant. They like doing that. Just get another guy in the building.

No, no, no, no, no, you don't think so. Not now. He can come in the building now. Yeah, I take it back. He can come in now. now. Yeah. I take it back. He can come in now. Or he was super bowl. Sinmatsu L.A. United with Carson Wins. Recreated some of that now. Now take him. Chris Tabor's their interim head coach who did he has coached a game when Matt Niggie got COVID in 2021. He coached one game for the Bears. Who could forget? Yeah, so he is their interim.

I'm gonna have to decide if he can get a little dead, dead coach bounce for them. I can. I kind of, it might just be bad. I kind of like David Tepper though. Just in the system. He's not our own. He's not our own.

Yeah, right. He's fun to talk about and he's fun to observe. I actually, I was lucky enough to have dinner with him in Cabo on Valentine's Day this year. I don't know if I told you guys that. What? Yeah. It's fun to observe. I actually, I was lucky enough to have dinner with him and Cabo on Valentine's Day this year. I don't know if I told you guys that. What? Yeah.

Well, he was sitting at the table directly next to mine. At the resort, his, how do I say this diplomatically? His wife really likes Pinot Grigio. A lot. A whole lot. Who doesn't? Yeah. A lot.

Damn. It's vacationing with Billionaire. She had a great time. Yeah. Yeah, he lot. Damn, it's vacation with Billionaire. She had a great time. Yeah, yeah, he, I'm not any flight, what happened after? Oh, you know, we all went back to the sweet had a good time. He, he does kind of rule in the fact that like super, super rich guys that get everything they want for their entire life then get to a point where what they've done doesn't work

anymore is very fun to watch. Yeah. It's like, I'm just gonna do the same thing I've done all my life because that's why I'm rich. It's like, well, the NFL works a little different, buddy. It's everyone else's problem. It's not mine. Right, exactly.

Exactly. All right, anything else at NFL? We'll do some college. We have a herb street on, so we're gonna do a bunch of college with him. I think we can get into it more on Friday show, but I just want to say max I am I feel disrespected for the Eagles because now I think they're three point underdogs two and a half No, I think it moved it moved. Yeah, I think it moved to three earlier. Whoa

So I think it jumped up to three I I still think that the 49ers might win this game But this is actually giving Sireani all the ammunition that he could ever need. He's perpetually looking for a way to call himself an underdog, as most coaches are, but this is like, this is gold for him. Yeah, he's gonna be blasting Rocky. Yeah, I'm nice. You guys wanna suck three point underdogs at home?

What's your record, Max? I'd have you 10 and one. Yeah, 10 and one. Well, the Niners are better than that, right? Nope. Hmm, weird. I, the Niners are better than that, right? Nope. Weird. I bet the Niners are minus one. What do you mean they're minus one?

I bet them at minus one on Sunday night. You're just keep making up lines. You just keep making up lines. I'll show you my bets. You want to see my bet slip? Here. Minus one. When was it at minus one?

Hey, come here. Come here. I know you believe it, but come look and confirm so the max yet again Yet again loser max and is a loser excuses can fucking shut up look at that right there Is that not minus one that's minus one all right fine? You just you're just a bird's haired or now you know what it is You're upset that you didn't that you didn't place your future earlier because you had this whole plan that the Eagles We're gonna lose all these games during this. I'm gonna work my plan is you're gonna

We're gonna lose all these games during this gauntlet and then you were gonna hop on and it's not going to play It's still gonna work. It's still gonna work Right that's what that's what it is. Yeah, of course it is no duh no duh All right, let's do yeah,, let's do a little college football and then we'll do hot seat cool throne. We're brought to you by our friends at Grammarly. When it comes to writing, Grammarly is there to support you from start to finish for over 10 years.

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because I'm just like, I don't want to start the email. Have someone start it for you. Go to grammarly, grimly.com slash podcast. Okay. Quick college football because we do talk with Herbie about a lot of it. One thing we didn't talk to him about though, I, I actually think this might be the worst loss for a fan base ever in Ohio State. Okay. So hear me out. They had an

opportunity on Saturday to essentially a race, three years of Michigan football and go like back to when Ohio State, I think they, I think there was a stretch from 2003 or whatever to 2021 where they had won every single time except for like two. If they had won on Saturday, they could have all gone around and said, the only reason you beat us was because you cheated and the minute you couldn't cheat anymore, all the, all the normalcy has been restored in the world and we're better than you. And it's just a blip on the radar, you cheaters. Now Michigan, with their backup, you know, with their interim

head coach, Shromb more who called a great game, gets to be like, you guys, you guys cried, you bitch, you moaned, you started investigations and we still just ran the ball down your throat. I think you might be right because yeah, you're always looking for an excuse. Right. It was a rivalry game like that and you had a built-in one saying like, okay, it was all done like cloaking dagger shit behind the scenes. You can't beat us man on man. Sharan Moore, I think here's a take.

Sharan Moore, by being like a step head coach that only visits on weekends. He was actually in a better position than Ryan Day was because more he can like let his freak flag fly. Yeah. And it doesn't really have to worry about, okay, well, I've got, I have to be a Michigan head coach that beats Ohio State. Yeah. He's just there like kind of keeping the seat warm for Jim when he comes back. Although he might be the guy in next year. He could go for it. He could go for it when he wanted back. Although he might be the guy in next year. He could go for it. He could go for it when he wanted to. He made some really aggressive calls.

And Ohio State Ryan Day, I don't think Ohio State played a bad game at all. I thought Ohio State played a pretty good game over. A great. It was just a good game of football. And the funniest part of the game, I don't know if you caught this. I'm a bit of a fly boy. So I saw during the fly over before the game.

You see the plane that they flew over. Yes. It looked like it was a Delta Airlines flight. It was like, not your standard B2. So I saw during the flyover before the game, you see the plane that they flew over. Yes. It looked like it was a Delta Airlines flight. It was like, not your standard B2 F22, F18 F16, I can keep going, but it was a Poseidon. And a Poseidon is a spy airplane. It's a dedicated spy, espionage surveillance airplane

that they flew over the stadium. That has to be the most expensive troll of all time. Yes, right? Michigan can do it. And they can do it. Stephen Ross probably just wrote the check. And it worked. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Harbaugh was in there.

Yeah, I put him in some fatigues. Strapp of parachute on him. But I think that's the most expensive troll. Yeah. And it really is, oh, how to say, it's almost like, I think, is Skins game in golf when you, when you, when the whole, like, if you have a hole, it counts as two. The next one.

That was a skins game in football. They basically could have won three games in one. Yeah, they can now. Yeah, and Ryan Day, I agree with you. Ohio State wasn't, it wasn't like the last two years where Michigan was like, we're just more physical than you. We're tougher than you. We kicked the shit out of you.

This was a very even game. It just came down to Ryan Day being a little too conservative in a couple moments that like the end of half. Yeah. When he was like, hey, let's have our kicker who's never kicked this far in a rivalry game in cold weather, tried the longest kick ever instead of trying to get a few more yards. Did he make the first one though? He did.

I think which I think is always a stupid thing to do. To follow through. Yeah. As a kicker I would always like a warm-up shot though. But once you make it once, you're just like, you lose it. Can I do that again? Yeah, it's like Trump's theory of your body being a battery.

And so once you lose that, it's gone for it. Yes. That's one less made kick that you'll ever have in your entire life. Yes. You make a chip shot in a practice. Yeah, it was weird at the end of the half. I, if I were the kicker, I would definitely take that shot,

but it worked. I assume the kicker works. People forget that. Like, there's studies out there that have shown that on long fuel goals, I assume the kicker is actually, like, you can prove that it's 5% 10% better, depending on the kicker, obviously. But I want to stand up real quick for the big house.

I want to, the big house gets slandered sometimes. Well, it does it with the way it's designed. Yeah, it's great for this game. It gets loud for this game. It was so fucking yeah. I was expecting, like I've watched many games played at Michigan before. And I've never thought to myself,

it's actually not that loud on the field. It always seems loud on the field to me. I just think that it could be even louder. Yeah, no it could. There's no disrespect to it. It's actually not that loud on the field. It always seems loud on the field to me. I just think that it could be even louder. Yeah, no, it could. There's no disrespect to it. It's very, very loud, but you could do a whole lot better. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been to, I don't know, probably four or five games in the big house. It's an insane stadium. It's impressive just the size. And it's also very cool because you walk in basically halfway up. So it's like sunken. So you walk, when you walk in, you're walking in on the street level,

you're like 70 rows up or whatever it is. So it's very cool. But yeah, the way it's set out is the sound kind of escapes, but that game, yeah, it was so loud. Yeah, it was pretty. And going on the field after, it was a great college football Saturday. We had the Iron Bowl, which was just insane, which we talked to her about. The one thing we didn't talk about the apple cup

was awesome. And Kaelin to Boer that fourth down call where he did the trick play on his own like 20. The balls on that like through your entire season is on the line right there. And he's like, yeah, this is when I got this play, which was like, it was like a fake handoff pitch outside that went for like 40 yards. It was, that was a great game. And in Washington, they are kind of like TCU last year. They just find a way to win these games. Yeah. The Apple Cup is a very underrated rivalry. Yeah. I think like in Leicester, plan it. So unless you're from the Northwest, you don't, you don't understand just like how much those two fan bases hate each other.

It's bad. It's bad. It's almost like SEC level on that game day. They're like at each other's throats. So I am glad with they extend five years. I think so, yeah. So at least they got something right. Yeah, with all the realignment.

Like yeah, keep some of these traditions. Also, we had our first archmaning sighting in Texas. They beat the fuck out of Texas. Yes. It was a whomping. I forget how many they won by. I think they were up by 50 at the time. 57.

57. 57, one by 50. Archmaning gets in. I think at the end of the third quarter is when they put them in the game. And I have a take about archmaning. Are you ready for this? Because you have to have a take about archmaning.

I think I figured out what mine's gonna be early. I think archmaning might be too good of a quarterback. I don't think that there are receivers out there that are good enough to play with archmaning. He had two touchdown passes. I think it was on his first drive that were just fucking laser beams right on their hands, bounced off their hands, it reminds you good of a ball.

Yeah, too good of a ball. I don't think maybe maybe Josh McDaniel's offensive genius, who's just too advanced for the modern day NFL. Yeah, maybe he could figure out a way to get Archman and quarter like the future. But you remember when we're watching March Madness and Marquis Snowell, he's throwing those passes between his legs behind the rising his guys, surprising his guys.

The ball was going out of bounds. I think I think Arch is up to those kind of tricks. I think he's too good at playing quarterback. I like that. He's so good that he sucks. I like that. Yeah, Archie Manning, let's get him in the game. Yeah.

All right. So we have a lot more college football talk. Don't be upset that we're not doing everything because we're going to get through all the playoff iterations and everything with Kirk Herb Street. It's been, that was a great Saturday. That was just a great college football Saturday where just all these rivalry games, chaos everywhere, and we still haven't had the big chaos,

which maybe happens this championship Saturday. Like, it just hasn't, it feels like we're always right there, and we haven't had the, oh man, like now everything's flipped up. I'm rooting for chaos. Yeah, I love it. I'm rooting for them to have to admit that games don't matter, which is what they're gonna admit.

I think games matter, but I think they're gonna, I want them to have to just like put in Alabama over Texas and then the whole farce of it be like, games don't matter, no one should schedule anyone. Yeah, so we talked to Herbie about it, but the whole Florida state thing,

I actually, I had an a-ha moment this morning when I woke up and I was like, wait a second, like they, they want to have big names in this playoff. And right now, Florida state, even though they are a big name, traditionally, they don't have the same buzz as like a Texas would have. So I'm just thinking that Florida state will get fucked. And let's, if Florida state wins by like 40 points, then they'll, then they'll get, yeah, yeah, cardel Jones, then they'll cartel Jones then they'll get yeah, yeah, cartel Jones Then they'll get in but if you're a seminal fan like I I'm sorry, but I think you're about to get fucked I don't think so a games have to matter they have to matter

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To do it. Thank you for journalism. Let's do it. Let's get into up stealing our hot seats. Tragic day for journalism. I mean, the biggest magazine in our lives, my life growing up was in sports illustrated. That was the premiere place for sports articles,

read the back page. They got caught for hiring an AI firm to not only write fake articles, but they made fake AI looking headshots for the fake writers so that the articles would appear real. They got called out for it, deleted all the articles, and then released a statement on X Closing all the comments so they basically were like we hired a third party Website we didn't know what they were doing we have a process we were in the middle of checking this out When this came to light and so we've taken them down trying to take no blame for it But it was clear that they just tried to outsource everything to AI this makes me question everything now Yeah, it was Rick Riley a real person?

Was Peter King a real person? That was funny watching a bunch of this for the illustrated people be like, I actually was a real person. Yeah, I don't know, I'm not convinced that Peter King's real. I actually think Peter King is fake. I'd agree.

Peter King's, he's not real, he's AI. You know what their business model was for the last like three years? It was basically like, look at this funny tweet So they would just like find a funny sheet from like a player and then the headline would be like you won't believe what Shaq just tweeted And then it would just be a screenshot of the tweet and I'm pretty sure all those were written by just AI just robots It's so I don't fully understand AI. I did see that like AI Singer oh, she sucks socks. He AI singer. Oh, she sucks.

Socks. She's awful. That was actually my first moment, where I was like, everyone who's getting upset about AI. No, no, no, they, AI sucks. Nothing to worry. BDI, I think AI might have, it would be funny if AI is only body that it ever caught with sports illustrators.

Yeah. Like we, if you told yourself, if you told like 13 year old PFT and Big Cat when you're sitting on the shitter reading Rick Riley back page, like the future's gonna be scary. Sports Illustrated's gonna be run by robots. Like that's it. Yeah. I'll take that trade.

Yeah. Also, I feel very secure in my job. I don't think that we would ever be able to take it over by AI. Do you think there's no AI? No, we could. No, there's no AI. That's stupid enough. Yeah, how are they the same discussions that we have?

How would they get it? How would they get things wrong all the time? Like don't computers get things right? Yeah, can you imagine an AI having a debate about whether or not someone in the audience Yeah, it could happen. Bad takes. Bad takes. We have the voice stuff.

Just be very wrong about things. I think we're close to the like, you know, no, I think Terminator, X-Fingstion, no, you know what you Matrix and Terminator are all one movie. I think we're getting very close to the like the AI is here. Everyone thinks it's bad, but the second that it fix itself and gets good, we're fucked. Okay, and then it's over. You're being a mouthpiece for big AI because I actually think no, I'm an anti AI.

No, no, no, no, I need to, need to we need to accept that it's a it's a threat and Listen, I don't think there's anything we can do honestly. Hey point. That's why you're being a mouthpiece for it I agree with our friend j caspian Kang on this he he is of the mindset. I I agree with him 100% that the The people who are being terrified about AI and all this buzz about AI, like taking over everyone's job, taking over the world, that's marketing, that the AI people are trying to get out there to build buzz about AI. It's also, it's advanced.

It's also one of those situations where you have to ask yourself, are we too online? The answer is always yes. Do regular people think about AI? Are they like having the first ones? But like there's a big fucking world out there. I feel like this is one of those debates that happens on Twitter and we have to take a step back and be like,

whoa, we're way too online. Like who cares? I think AI is- I wish it care. AI is definitely coming for like the trucking industry first and then the truckers aren't gonna put up with that shit. They're just gonna park their big rigs on the highways and be like, the truckers want to figure it out for us. Truckers always save us. Shout out truckers. By the way, you mentioned our

friend J. Caspian King. He had a really good point about the Auburn loss in the iron bowl. Okay. He said, devastating for Auburn fans, only comparable thing I can think of is when Coach K brought 80 plus former players to Cameron for his last game and lost the Caroline and then apologize to crowd and said they would finish the season strong and then they lost to get in the final four. Yeah. I liked it. That is really the only thing I liked it.

I think I might change his header injured board to just how like shows since big hats shoe horned coach K into it. It was he said Jay Kasping and I saw a tweet that was very funny that I retweeted. I basically said that How's PFT's fault? Yes, my fault you brought he brought up Jay Kasping King On my other hot seat not a I I think I got a computer virus. So if you get any emails or anything whoa What happened? I Was you can't just be like oh blah blah blah. I got a computer virus PFT. What's your hot seat? How'd you get it Hank? I was downloading a I was making a editing a video and I was downloading a song from YouTube YouTube to MP3 classic

Yeah, and I got hit with the fake download button. Oh That and it opened up and then I wasn't paying attention it I got in the lousy or decline screen for like I thought it was to get the download So I clicked a loud, but it was to get the download. So I clicked allow, but it was for push notifications from this hack website, and then I just got a million push notifications. Oh no.

I did this. I did this. This is hacked. Thank you. You're officially a boomer now. Oh no. I did this exact same thing last week that I just kept getting all the push notifications,

but I just like went into my settings and turned it off and I have a notice after that. That's probably the end of you anything. There is nothing scarier than that moment when you do the one click too many, and then you basically tell yourself that if you can just X out fast enough, you'll be fine. I just, I, XXXXX, you're like,

all right, I'm good, I'm good. I just, I, I just, I, I'm not my computer off. Yeah. The notification came up, I was like your, your, your Gmail is being hacked, like right, I'm good, I'm good. I just, then my computer off. Yeah. The notification came up, I was like, you're, your, your Gmail is being hacked, like open. I clicked open and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I did two clicks too many. Pizza and I should be fine.

We'll see though. So just, something to keep in mind. We have to keep an eye on you now. Like I have a rule with my mom that before she clicks on any links, she asked to like send me a screenshot. I've said download on the button. I think you need to ask us. That's tough, Hank.

You gotta let us know when you're thinking about downloading. I was trying to make a highlight reel. You're a sea-suite guy. Dunking on PFT. Well, this is actually might be why you're at home. Who gets, who gets, what are we gonna make a highlight reel of? The From Surviving Bar, so what, I went five or six and I'm new shooting.

I made it. It's out there. Great. Who's got of that, Hank? The most at this company. Who's got what? Who's gotten fished out there. Ah, great. Who's got of that, eh? The most at this company. Who's got what? Who's gotten fished? Scanned.

Cherry. No. Who? Erica. Oh yeah, Erica does get scammed left and right. So we get texts from fake aircas all the time. See Sweet Life. Yeah.

But this also means you might be getting old. Like where the young whippersnappers that it got to come in and look at your computer and be like, let's fix this real quick for you I don't think I've ever gotten hacked there's beans there's beans in the computer It's been I you know I'm just I'm just preemptively saying it just you ever he said he thinks I'm fine You ever see that video which one the guy puts he He has a desktop and he just puts like five cans of beans in his desktop and then he hires a geek squad guy to come check it out and the guy opens it up he's like

there's beans in here he's like what do you mean? There's beans in the computer that's you Hank yeah my cool throw is the sun the fucking sun Aaron Rogers oh yeah like like a tweet yeah about sunscreen basically being here. I'll read the tweet. Yeah, I saw this like Tom Brady. Just drink a bunch of water. Yeah. So Russell O'Kong proud base parent moment. My four year old saw me and asked why other people use sunscreen.

I looked at them seriously and responded. Corporations push propaganda machines to make the masses believe the sun is bad for them. We have a different view. Now let's go. Yes, that parents socks on that butthole. to make the masses believe the sun is bad for them. We have a different view. Now let's go. Yes. That parent sucks. On that butthole, just get the tank going. Russell O'Conn, he's the former office alignment.

I think he took his entire salary in crypto. Yeah, he did. That parent could have easily just been like, sunscreen's bullshit. You just say that. Also like a Ruth con to four. Yeah, that's not a real conversation. There's no way.

No one talks to their kids like that. Why would a four year old stop? I mean, you know better. No, or would stop you. Why do other people use something? No, my son has probably asked that. Like, I don't want to put on sunscreen. I'm like, well, you got to.

My four year old son, Chris, he respects the son. That's day one stuff as a dad. The, whenever a kid asks why you just say because that's it. Game over also selling selling based dad merchandise would probably do a lot of merch. Yeah, a lot of sales. All right. PFT your hot sea cool throne.

I will hand stole my hot seat with the AI thing. What a what an asshole. Um, so I'm just going to say hot seat the PGA tour. Oh, because Tiger Woods says that he's going to come back and play one event per month next year love it So Tiger's back in the news. I hope he does. I hope he does That'd be the cool throw. What's that Hank went the PGA like that be the best. No because Tiger's gonna beat all of them But the tour will be thrilled the hot seats the other players the other play. Thank you Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, I tried that was that was too long Hank for Hank's got a fucking do what you get a virus in your brain said the PGA

Tour the PGA Taurus thrill PGA tour rosters Yes, the Ross Shut the fuck up Hank can you cut up cut off Hank's Mike please you got a virus on your brain Thanks Max My cool throne is is Darren Revelle. Oh, is Darren Revelle left the action networks So now that he's left or fired Don't know okay. Thank you. It's now that he's gone now. He can do do fun stuff like come on part of my take Oh, now that he's gone back to sports business for time. Oh, no, so he's gonna be at another competitor

Damn it. Damn it. So we can't have him on the show fuck. I don't know where he's going I was hoping that Darren would be able to come on the show now that he no longer worked at the action network Well, he's not Jake's just said he's not sports business isn't a cool. Do you want me to correct? Yeah, correct. Sports business isn't a place. Okay, so where's that's true. That's well for DARREN it is. He will be working at, it's like Narnia. Mostly like he just walks in and he just like he looks through and there's waterfalls and there's prices on people wearing like Ray Bans and how much did this call, how much did they get

for wearing Pumas instead of Nike's? There's a Beckett MLK Junior Catalog. That is a place for him. Yeah, but thank you for destroying the Joe Kank. I appreciate that. We're just saying that Revelle will not be able to come on part of my take, but that's all right. We've had this debate for years.

I think one time. I know, I just don't like him. That'd be great. It's just from the honest. I like him now. He gave me this job kind of his existence. I, if, if, Darren Reveil can come on this show, if he honestly answers all questions

about Northwestern and Pasadet's Gerald, and I want three pieces of his African-American memorabilia. Yeah. So I will be donating to a museum. No, you want over three. Over three, three plus. And it's going to a museum, Darren.

That's funny. On this day of all days, call me racist. If he comes on the show, I just want to have this approver film on a TV above me. He did have a little bit of he had a little bit of self awareness. He did tweet. Yeah. So he gets points for that. But yeah, Revelle, if you want to answer all questions about path of the Cheryl, and over three pieces of memorabilia to PFT. And you guys have to pledge that you're not going to prank him like last time. Oh, yeah. PFT. And you guys have to pledge that you're not gonna prank him like last time.

Oh yeah, PFT totally pranked him by doing the shake my hand and then, and then, No, when you got, No, I got it down low to the front, right? Yeah, you did, no, he did down low to slow and, dear, like I don't like that. I'm saying when he called in and you hung up on him. He sports, we used to call him like that.

Oh yeah, he sports minute. Yeah, that's full time. You're like, what Darren, what's up? And he started talking, you're like, sorry, loser and you hung up on him right away. But the entire interview is gonna be a prank. Should we call him right now? Yeah, let's more committed. Yeah, that's more time. You're like, what Darren, what's up? And he started talking, you're like, sorry, loser, and you hung up on him right away. Well, the entire interview is gonna be a prank. Should we call him right now? Yeah, let's call him.

Let's ask him where his next place is. Let's see if he's gonna hang up on him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Hello. Hey Darren, it's big calf and part of my take. We were wondering if you had any comment about your next move in sports business. Is this being taped? This is being taped. Um, I don't know. That was me. That was me. That was so big. Remember when you got his comment was going to be, you remember we tried to fight me at Ruffin Routy and he wanted like $3 million. I'd fight him for free for the record. I don't like that.

What? I just, I don't know. I think it was mean. Hanging up on him? Yeah. Jake, riddle me this, riddle me that. What? I just, I don't know. I think it was mean. Hanging up on him? Yeah. Jake, riddle me this, riddle me that. What is meaner? Hanging up on Darren Revelle before we just brutally make fun of him or keeping him on the line and making fun of him.

I don't know. I don't know. Okay. All right, my hot seat is the Blackhawks because one Patrick Kane is a Redwing which is disgusting to see, even though I love Patrick Kane forever. And two, the black hocks somehow, they always get into these situations where something happens and then rumors start and they're never just fourth

right about it, but Cory Perry has been released. And there's some rumors going around the internet. And there's some rumors going around the internet. Who knows what happened? But I'll just say this, the Black Hawk should do a better job of making sure they protect Conor Baudard at all costs. And he's your franchise player. Maybe just do a press conference and explain what happened. Yeah, or at least give a security detail to his mom. Yeah, I think this is gonna be really bad for Bedard

because every other player in the league, every other fan in the league, when Bedard visits town, now has some raw meat. Yeah. They've got a lot of ammo. Like, how do you fuck this up? This is your fucking franchise guy. It's your franchise guy.

If you're scouting a franchise guy, you wanna make sure that his mom is not attractive. I don't like the rumors that you're starting. I'm not starting a rumor. Cory Perry did something bad. It had nothing to do with anything else. That's my official statement. Put it out.

Okay. He did something. Here's my official statement. Cory Perry did something bad. It had nothing to do with anything else. Protect Conor, but are at all costs. But that has, but that is not related to the Cory Perry thing. That's my official statement. That's fair. All right, my

cool throne is men because I, it's similar to the the sunscreen thing. I don't know if you guys saw this, but there was a viral tweet that went around the internet. This woman tweeted to me, a physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually healthy man does the following. So I don't know if we can check off the list, see if that we're there. Doesn't vape. Yeah, for the last three days, okay? Doesn't smoke weed. Doesn't get vaxed.

Doesn't watch porn. Lifts weights weekly. Yeah, prioritizes sleep. No, thatizes sleep. No, I do that. Eats lots of steak and eggs. Yeah, yeah. Doesn't drink tap water.

I don't, I drink body armor. Doesn't use air pods. I don't, I don't either. Would choose a podcast over music. Yeah, that's hot. Every day, hey, what are you talking about? The fuck you think?

You work at a podcast, you work at a podcast factory. We're seeing other ones. That's what we do. We come in here and we turn on the engines and we make podcasts. Right, but then I'm not going to listen to competitors. I don't want to give them downloads. No, we listen to our own show.

We self scout. We should do a buy week next year. Yeah. We sell scouts. Of course, I'm sensitive. Yeah, of course, I exist. Yeah. We did a buy week.

We self scouted and did all, we had new plays and everything. Cooks with butter, g, talo, and evo? Butter, butter, yes. Is there extra virgin olive oil? Is that the last one? Sure. Yeah, of course, everybody does.

Doesn't eat and drink out of plastic. I know. Uses fluoride-free toothpaste. Who cares? That shit doesn't work. I thought fluoride was good for you. It's good for your teeth. Yeah, it's good for you.

That's probably also a tap water thing. Doesn't wear aluminum deodorant, wears a 100% cotton underwear, doesn't trust the government, doesn't black out every weekend. Nope, nope, nope. It realizes cold plunging in the sauna gets daily sunlight and grounding.

Knows birth control is poison, uses natural remedies when sick, has some type of daily spiritual practice, isn't stuck in a soul sucking nine to five, has hobbies and passions in his life. I'm betting like 40% on those. Yeah, I pretty good. Yeah, so that's that's the ideal man. Is grounding like what liverking taught us where you just walk outside barefoot? I think it's when you I think it's when you're touching an electrical pole. You make sure you don't use both hands. So Justin Fields did. Yeah, he did. Oh, you want to do that, buddy?

Matt Jones is a grounding king. Yeah, it's so hard for referees to even tell when he's intentionally grounding because it looks like every other pass. They have to get up and have a little discussion like, was that one of those passes from Mac Jones that was he was trying to throw it to somebody? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to defend him anymore. So these comments don't hurt me. Okay, okay, fine. We're tanky. So he's great. Okay, fine. Just don't know that you can't make jokes like that. When you're using a reference yet. No, no It was a joke topical. It was topical. It was topical. They didn't play money football. Okay, Jake your hot seat cool throne Yeah, it's funny guys. We're just talking about this because my hot seat is Bill Bella check. Oh

Rex Ryan on get up on ESPN. He went off. Oh, no on Bella check. Oh wait, he'll just just knew this new. This new. Yeah, we thought there's the Alex Smith thing. No, no, no, no, this is from yesterday. Yep. He said, can I just say this, Bill, Bella check, please stop. Just name your dang starter. It doesn't matter. They both stink. Like we care about your team. Your team stinks. Oh, fighting words for. Yeah, I actually actually accurate. Yeah. And this is green. He wasn't there. He has COVID. Hope he gets well soon. Oh, no. So, uh, yeah, right.

Ryan people still green. Yeah. Green. We're still getting COVID. I can see Tommy smokes. Yeah. I can see Jake. Do they go and test? Hold on some cocoa. Yes. I don't know. That's news to me. But yeah. Do you think there's someone who's like living in like New York City right now that has still not gone out. Mm, Howard Stern. No, that everyone's gone out. No, Howard Stern doesn't.

I think he like, he makes the, the, uh, Grubhub guy just like drop it at his door and then walk down the hallway to take a picture of it. Okay. Yeah, my cool throne is, uh throne pop tarts pop tarts the pop tarts ball is happening and they announced that the mascot is going to be edible and the winning team can eat part of the mascot after they win. Yes. The pop tarts this rules. It should be that with bloopy. It's the second best bowl this season behind the bar. He's probably taste delicious. That fuck you be so

good. Oh my god. Looks like he's fried. Yeah, he just fucking just put a little salt on him. Bloopy actually already has a bunch of salt after this the the filly made him cry. Yeah, Bloopy would look great just on a waffle house menu. Yeah, he looks so. Oh, I'd like to spit roast him. I'd broil him. Oh, I mean, sous's sous vide. Watch him scream in a boiling water. You know what I'd do, lobster? I'd make him into a smore. Oh, just put a big stick right up his ass.

I could smell you that and then hold him over and open fire. Yeah, well he screamed. And I like that he was mean to me. I like bloopy. I just think that he would be very tasty. I do not like that. I just want to eat him. No, Max and I look, see Max, we're back together finally.

Love that sweetness. One thing about me and Max, we don't like bloopy. Fuck that man. Okay. Time for our interview with Kirk Herb Street and Shoutout to Body Armor. Body Armor helps us stay hydrated throughout our interviews with the biggest guests in the world. Packed with electrolytes and no artificial sweeteners, flavors, or dyes, Body Armor hydrates the best

athletes in the world and more importantly, us during interviews. By Body Armor today, visit the Body Armor Amazon store or retailers nationwide, Strawberry Banana, my favorite, favorite body armor drink. I also just drink the water all the time. Available in stores nationwide, head on over to Body Armor store on Amazon and get yours today. Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Kirk Herb Street. We're going to talk some college football. You obviously see him every Saturday morning.

College game day. You see him calling the biggest game every Saturday night. You also see him on Thursday night football calling NFL. So maybe we'll mix in a little NFL here. But, Herbie, let's start big picture. This is maybe the most exciting championship weekend we've had because we have four teams that are undefeated. I don't think that's ever happened this late in the season. Um, let's, let's just dive right into the college football playoff and what you

see in terms of the past. Every team has, uh, if everyone holds serve, let's say the favorites win, so Oregon beats Washington, I'd say the committee probably has it easy that they can just put in all four or three undefeated in Oregon, correct? Florida State. I think they will. I think the one thing we have to consider,

and I like Florida State, I just called their game the other night, but the loss of Jordan Travis, to me, is pretty significant. I think that we have to be careful. We live in an era where it's like, okay, they're undefeated, so they're in, because they're in a power five. I just, I don't do that. I'm really big on the best four teams. Now it's subjective, like who you guys think, who I think, who other people think, I don't have a dog in fight here. If Oregon wins and they're a one-loss team and they beat Washington on Friday night, I can't not put Oregon in. I think they're one of the best teams. I think they have been all year. If Georgia wins, if Michigan wins, if Florida State wins, if Oregon wins, if Texas wins, we got a series to lima.

I'm, you know, that committee, no matter what they do is wrong, no matter who they put in, they're going to be wrong. But I just don't, I'm not a big fit. If you think Florida states one of the best teams with TAY Rodamaker, then that's no problem. But I'm just not big on, they're undefeated, so we have to put them in. If you think they're still one of the best four, then let's put them in. I was not because they're unbeaten. I was thinking about this because we talked about Florida State on the show a couple days ago. And we said it's the right thing to do to put Florida State in. You can't say, well, they're worse because they have a different quarterback.

So hypothetically, they wouldn't be as big of a threat. But then it occurred to me, and I still think it would be the right thing to do to put Florida State in. But we're talking about college football here, and we're talking about some pretty large media conglomerates that are thinking about ratings as well. And if you think that they're going to do the right thing over putting in a bigger brand name with a more, I guess, Florida State would be a big brand name with a more I guess well Florida state would be a big brand name but yeah but minus they're starting

a quarterback that's a big deal for ratings it seems to me like the more I think about it the more they would go towards Texas just simply for the ratings factor I'm putting on my my college football playoff rigged hat and saying they want they do want ratings they're trying to make money. So I think that that's a fair point to make too. I can fix that for you because I've been calling all these games since it started. I call one of the semi-final games and I call the national championship. I have all the whole time we've done this. And I can assure you that ESPN is not. I can promise you I'm not defending ESPN. I can promise you. ESPN is not. I can promise you, I'm not like defending ESPN,

I can promise you, if you look at the ratings that doesn't hold up. If we were doing it, if ESPN was involved on ratings, it would be Georgia and Michigan, forget, Alabama loses, it's fine, put him in. Oh, I'll stay, yeah. Oh, I'll stay, that's what they would do. This is more of the committee isolated

wherever they are in Texas trying to figure out, listen, the ratings are okay. They're not NFL ratings, they're good, but there's really not much of a bump when you put in these big brands versus not. It's really not even, that's more of a conspiracy theory on Twitter than it is reality. I promise you, it's not a reality thing at all.

ESPN's not on the phone saying we really need Georgia. Like it's just it's not, it's not real. So you guys can think that, but I could promise you it's not. What's real is in calling all these games now, last year we had Ohio State, Georgia, we had TCU Michigan. Those games were great. They came down to the wire. You know what I said is to pat the other day.

You know what the average margin of victory has been since 2014 when this thing started. Yeah, it's been a blast. It's stuck. The playoffs have stopped. The average margin of victory has been 19. So as a guy who calls these games, I don't wanna do the right thing.

If you talk to Bill Hancock and we had lots of meetings about this, they're not supposed to do the right thing. They're supposed to their job is put the best four teams in the playoff. Now again, it's subjective who you think and I think are the best four are different and that's fine. But that's what that group is supposed to do. Not what do we think about ratings? That's bullshit. Put the fucking best four teams in the game.

That's okay. Is the day that's this? Okay, okay. I agree with you. I want to see the best four teams. But can we at least agree that the games should matter? And that's really what it comes down to. Four to 100% four state being an undefeated team.

And then the Texas Alabama problem that people are throwing out there, I listen, a lot of this stuff is probably gonna get figured out. Like we spent a lot of time hand-wanging all this stuff and then we'll probably wake up on Sunday morning and Georgia would have won and Michigan won and maybe Florida State wins, maybe Oregon or Washington. Maybe it's all four undefeated teams.

It's not even an issue. But I really do believe that the games have to matter. So if it's a four undefeated teams. It's not even an issue, but I really do believe that the games have to matter. So if it's a Texas Alabama issue, the game head-to-head has to matter and that has to be like otherwise, what's the point of playing the season? Yeah, yeah, there's so many what ifs.

I mean, I don't know when you guys are gonna air this. I don't know, but if Alabama wins, if Alabama wins. it's a problem for the committee. It's a problem. Holy cow. And we're almost just assuming Georgia's going to win. That's still Nick Sabin with a quarterback in Jalen Milro who can make plays with his feet. I mean, you never know, right? And it's still Alabama defense. I mean, and this is not Georgia over the last two years where they have like three or four or five first rounders all over the field.

They're a great team, but it's not. So, that can even be competitive. Absolutely. And if Alabama were to win, I don't even, I can't even imagine where we are because there's just, let's just say that. If Alabama wins and Michigan wins and, and, and Oregon or Washington wins and Florida state wins and Texas wins and all those things are not like pie in this guy like that. Those things are probably pretty practical.

All everything else I just said. Yeah. What the hell do you do? Let's just sit and work it out. Michigan is a lock. Yep. Right. Pack 12 was a lock.

Pack 12 should be. If Oregon wins, they're sitting there with one loss. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. You're right. So Pac-12 may be a question mark. Florida State's in Florida State. I would assume would be a lock. You would think Florida State would be a lock. So then we've got two spots. And you got Texas who beat Alabama, sitting there as big Pac-12 champs. And Alabama just beat Georgia. It's, it's a problem. It's really hard not to put Texas in. Yeah. Just Texas is win over

Alabama, get better because Alabama then beat Georgia. Yeah. I would think I mean, you can make an argument. It was the best win of the season. Right. You know what's unfortunate in this scenario. If Oregon beats Washington, I think that they would keep Oregon out. And it would be Texas and Alabama, because here's the only thing, and I know you said conspiracy theory, all this stuff, but who's gonna complain about Oregon being out? The pack 12 doesn't exist anymore. Like it's the last chance,

and unfortunately, that would, I think Oregon's one of the top four best four teams, but I think that that would probably be what they would do because I just can't laugh them and no SEC final four. You know what's really, really sad here is in doing this and living this every minute of every day. Oregon is in the best conference in the country, like top to bottom.

And I know if you look at their strength of schedule, maybe it's not, you know, it maybe doesn't show that. But if you really have watched the, the, the, the pack 12 this year, it's, there aren't a lot of easy wins. Yeah. In a conference. And, in, in what you're saying, I mean, you imagine keeping Nick Sabin Alabama out if they be Georgia. No, no, I think I would make a case. Okay, going back to what we originally said, it's supposed to be the best four teams. How can you not say George is one of the best four teams, even if they lose to Alabama?

I know. It would just be so weird to see a team coming off a loss like that against another team that should be in there, awesome getting in. What are you doing? Run it back? Is it gonna be a rematch? Yeah.

And like, there is, if Alabama wins, the committee might just have to, I mean, they, they, they're dead. They need four states to lose under that circumstance. They have to do. They do. They do. They need Georgia Michigan and a Georgia win, Michigan to win and Louisville to win. And, um, and then they can figure it out. But yeah, it's, it's, it's fascinating because it really is the, the craziest, uh, championship

Saturday. I can remember, um, all right. So other things, you're an Ohio State guy. The game was phenomenal on Saturday, Michigan Ohio State. Uh, tell us how you're feeling about Ryan Day and what you think Buckeye fans are are thinking going forward because Ryan Day has a phenomenal coach. I think he's I think it's something like 39 and O against big 10 teams not named Michigan. Um, I think he's 40 and three overall in the big 10. Does Ryan Day have a Michigan problem because it felt like going into this game, they they they built their team back up to be as tough as Michigan.

The last two years, Michigan was tougher. This year Ohio State had some nastiness to them, they had some shit to them. But Ryan Day had one or two chances in that game where he got a little conservative and he didn't coach, he didn't have the wrinkles that you need to win that type of game and was saying like, we'll just go out there

and we'll play our game and hope we win. Do you think he has a problem going forward with Michigan and the fan base? I think there's two things that can be true here. I think number one, I would, me personally, I wouldn't even consider even talking about firing Ryan Day. Like, I wouldn't. Number two, he definitely has a Michigan problem. So I think there's both of those things can be true. This game is cyclical. The pressure, the way teams get and the other teams head Ohio State lived in Michigan's head for a number of years with Tressel and Urban Meyer. And Jim Harball to his credit at one point, they're ready to fire him.

and Jim Harboldt, his credit, at one point, they're ready to fire him. And now that he's completely turned this thing around. And I think now there is, I would say this, like if I were Ryan Day and I were looking at, okay, we put everything into this, we got to get tougher. I've always felt that when Ohio State is tougher, the recruiting that they have done from the end of the urban Mayer era to now, they recruit nationally. They go to Florida, they go to Georgia,

they go to North Carolina, they go to Texas, they go to California. If you look at the Ohio State roster, they're not a ton of Ohio guys. And I would suggest maybe looking at that aspect of the roster and finding moral high-oh guys that qualify to be on the Ohio State roster to make them appreciate what this game really means because you can put slogans up, you can do a fourth quarter drill, this is the Michigan drill, you can do all the thing. You can have a clock up in the Woody Hayes facility. Do all those things. But the reality is, when we watch the game,

it feels like the Michigan team plays as a group where they play like with a chip on their shoulder and they're mad at the world and they play with like something to prove. And in the last three years, that has been more than what Ohio State has brought to the table in that game. So it's so it's such a great point because I always have thought that one of the greatest things that Urban Meyer did and didn't get enough credit for was he made a bunch of kids 18 year olds from Florida and California and Texas, hate Michigan. Like he made it so that that team hated Michigan.

Those kids have no reason to have that type of hate for arrival in the Midwest when they're from Florida, California, but he had that instilled in that team and they wanted to pulverize them every time they played in November. 100% 100% and I feel like right now Ohio State has great players and they have a great culture but when it comes to that gain because it's become a psychological aspect of the game. I still think Michigan has a bunch of guys that are great players but maybe not quite as recruited

at the level of Ohio State and they got a chip on their shoulder to prove that they are collectively better than the Marvin Harris and juniors and the, you know, Mecca Bukha and all the great individual superstars that Ohio State has, they have a chip on their shoulder to show Ohio State, we have a better culture, we're better than you. And right now that United Front is more powerful

than what Ohio State has. So, and even with that being said, they had the ball late, they had a chance, they moved the ball in the Michigan territory, and you gotta give Michigan all the credit in the world. They made the plays that they had due to win the game. I feel like enough losses in a row, you're gonna start to get that hate buildup naturally.

You're gonna start to have a mission on that shoulder. It's gonna be four or five years, maybe naturally that'll happen. And they'll be like, yeah, I hate those guys. Or you could just like stage a fake kidnapping of Brutus and be like, Michigan did it. Let's go get these sons of bitches back. That's what I would do as a coach personally. And I think it was the first quarter of the game, the touchdown. Great throw.

Tremendous throw between two Ohio State Buck guy defenders. Was it a touchdown? Because I feel like this is gonna be a play that we're gonna argue about for the next 20 years, which I love. I love that about college football fan bases. But in your opinion, touchdown or turnover. Tough one there.

If let's just say the defensive back wasn't there, and he caught the ball the way he did, and then as he came to the ground, the ball instead of going into an Ohio State defenders arms, it went on to the ground. I think they probably would have called that incomplete. So with that being said, it's hard, it's very easy to sit there and just say,

well, you're an Ohio State guy. I really honestly, I don't care. I mean, if it's a touchdown, it's a touchdown, if it's not, it's not. But I just think, yeah, it was a critical moment in the game, but they reviewed it. I can't remember, they say confirmed or they say stands. I think they called it a touchdown.

Yeah, it was called a touchdown. I think if it had been called and complete on the field, or if it had been called and intercepted. I'm saying on the replay, did they say confirmed? Or did they say, call is staying? Whatever they, I just think if the defense of back is it there because we're all learning over these last four or five years, going back to Des Brines,

you got to complete the process of the catch, which means when you're in the end zone, the ball cannot squirt and then fall out. So that's the only thing that I would have looked at there to maybe say that it would have been, it would have been, it would have ended up in whoever's arms. I think the Ohio State player took it away from him.

You could easily have said, it could have been a turnover there that Ohio State would have had a touch back. Yeah, it's gonna be, it's just gonna be fun because you can always go back and point at that and be like, we got ref screwed us, which is a very valuable piece of copium to have. It's your fan. We're gonna get back to her being a second. He's brought to you by Morgan and Morgan.

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And so Big Cat and I are undecided about who were going to be voting for for our hypothetical high-spin vote. So we'll just go off whoever you think should win the high-spin trophy this year. So whenever you say we're gonna blindly follow that, who do you have winning the high-spin trophy? Well, I have Jane Daniels.

Oh, okay, good to see you. Good to see you. Yeah, you're Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll stick. Now, yeah, you're right. We're weird. I took a future on a couple of weeks ago. Me too. It was. Oh, no.

I leverage what you get. What you get in that? Uh, we got to have five and a half to one. We, uh, we were very, we were very, uh, we, we, full disclosure to our audience. We said, hey, we're going to bet this and we're also going to just become PR team for Jaden Daniel. But I didn't know that herby had no idea. I don't know.

I mean, you know, ball. I mean,'t know that herby has. We had no idea. I was talking to trophy. Like, that's, you know, ball. I mean, you watch more football than anybody. Listen, listen, he has been by far, like when you think of a Heisman winner and you watch his plays, that's the guy you think of with that being said, I'm with you guys. I am going to hold my vote. I want to watch Bownix against Washington and Penox that game. If Bownix goes off, you know, you could maybe be in Jeopardy there.

And the other thing that's in wildcard is some of these older voters. You got voted, there's somewhere a thousand guys at vote on this thing. Some people have already voted. Right. And back to the LSU has three losses. There are people that are like, I will not vote for a person that has, they're just, it's like an old school way of voting, but there are people that won't vote for a guy that had three losses.

How often do you go back and look at the Heisman? It almost always is a quarterback or a superstar of a team that's in the top three or four of the country. It's just like, who's the MVP of that team? Bonyx? There you go. Like, it's normally that. But in my opinion, it should go to the most dynamic playmaker. And that

player has been Jay Daniels up to this point. Bo Nick says a chance Friday in the Packed Hill championship and we'll see what he does. Yeah, the best case you could make is Lamar Jackson's 2016 team because they had they had three losses as well. And he was phenomenal and he was the best player in college football. I think that would be the one because listen, when you watch all the games, I know that LSU is not going to be in the college football playoffs or not in the SCC championship. They they're defense give up 55 points to Ole Miss like that can't be held against Jaden Daniels. He has been so phenomenal.

And I do like to do the game of like if you if you flopped players like if Bohnix was on LSU, how many wins would they would they have three four losses if Jaden Daniels is on organ. I don't know. I just think Jaden Daniels has shouldn't get dinged for his defense being historically bad. Yeah. And I'm glad you brought up Lamar Jackson because that, that is an example,

but it's also an outlier. I mean, if you look in the last 20 years, yeah. But it does set a precedent to show you that it's, it's happened in the past and, and maybe people will look at that because the guy's, he's like one of the best running backs in the country and he's playing quarterback. I mean, he's average in almost eight yards of carry and he does stuff and he's not just a runner. He's had a big year throwing the football.

He's gonna be a great NFL player with the way the NFL game is trending to more of almost like a dual thread ability. Jay Daniels is made for this new NFL because he can really throw the football well. So I think he's a dynamic guy. He's had Heisman moments all year. We'll see.

I think it'll be a fascinating race though between those two. All right. So hypothetical. If you were calling the iron bowl on Saturday, what would your call have been after Auburn decided to rush to and put a QB spy on Jalen Milro on a fourth and 31 because that was one of

the craziest decisions I've ever seen in terms of defensive calling, you know, plays at the end of a game. Well, there's a couple things. I don't know if I would have recovered from the play before that. Yeah. I was like, what the hell just happened? He went three or four yards past the line of scrimmage. They tried to go back.

They came back and then he threw it. And I'm like, what's happening? He's done it a couple times that game. He did one day another one where he was like five yards past and he threw it. Yeah. But with everything at stake, he had the ball that snapped over his head and he got crosses the line.

You're thinking, Alabama's just doomed. They're just not going to win this game. So that, to me, that's what made the moment, just like, what the hell just happened? What is it about the iron bull that gives us these moments? That's why I think blue everybody away was, you know, two ahead, you know, the national championship throw, but plays leading up to that,

it was like, oh boy, they're gonna lose, and then he hits Devon Tay Smith, and you're like, oh my gosh, one of those great moments for Alabama. Yeah, I would have probably lost it the way Fowler and I didn't wear a watch in. I mean, I was, we're literally, we're 30 seconds from going on air. And I, we have a, like a quad box.

So, like, so while you're calling games, I'm watching games as I'm calling a game. So, you know, we, there's other games going on. I want to see what's going on in those games, you know, when we go to a break. So we have our quad box still with the earlier games, the 330 games. So I'm like, Kitten Fowler showing him like the replay of it, Nora going to cross the line and bring it back. And he's like,

and the producers like, guys, we gotta get ready. And he's like, all right, watch the last play. And then there's a time out. I'm like, he's like,

he's like, we're like a minute away. I gotta do. We gotta watch this play. So we're watching it. And then the play happened And I was I mean we just like you guys. I don't know where you were You probably lost your mind. Yeah, I mean it was it the best part about that

Play is I think I can confidently say For the rest of my life. That was the worst touchdown game winning drive of all time Because Alabama was like so bad in that time. They got the ball. They got the muff punt. Like they, they were gifted the, the field position. It was, they did everything they could to not win the game. And then they won the game. And, but go to answer your question, I think it's, and again, it, I guess on paper, it makes sense why you drop everybody and you take all the receivers away. But what Milro did do a good job if you go back and look at the kind of that Skycam view, is they had receivers down the middle, they were all doubled.

And he found that the matchup, where at least it was a one on one. I don't know who the defensive back was. I think it was number maybe number four. You just, you feel so bad for that guy because in that rivalry, as much as Milro and Alabama will forever be remembered, that poor guy, I don't know if he's gonna go into the portal, I don't know what he's, but their fans are relentless. And he just, it's like he couldn't,

he didn't find the ball. He never saw the football thrown, and then he loses the receiver. And by time he reacted, the guy, of course, Bond goes up and makes that play. But yeah, one of the worst game winning drives ever. Yeah. Ever. I think you should be allowed to advance and buff punt.

I don't know. I'm always confused about that. And every time a player, you know, they know the rules on special teams. They get it and they always take off towards the end zone. It seems like that's a dumb rule. You should be allowed to take it as far as you can get it before you get tackled. Credit to Milro, he also, he looked off the defense too. So he was like his head was point at the sort of thing.

Yeah, he was trying to write a little bit. Yeah. He was here and then I think you see those double teams. And then at the last second, he saw that. And he just basically just threw up a prayer. Yeah, I think Auburn would have been better if they had rushed zero players. Yeah. And if they had rushed two.

And then at least confused them. And then you just put everybody back in the end zone. And the... You're probably, actually, you're probably right. Yeah. That way you double everybody. Yeah. The QB spy, it's like, what is the QB spy doing there? That person might just will not be on the field at all.

Right. You're right. Because he's not going to take off and run, obviously. So, yeah, or just bring pressure. Right. It'll bring fast. Yeah. Bring five.

You know, making force him to get the ball out fast. Bring five or six. And I know it's risky because maybe you're leaving some man coverage out there. Then people say, what the hell are you doing blitzing? So, you know, if you give one up, you're always going to be wrong. You know what I mean? Yeah. I noticed that you have a special guest that walked by.

Can we say how to Ben? Ben the dog is right next to you. Ben is the star of the show. Ben's most famous dog in the world right now. He's super famous He's the best he's such a good dog that he even went up to max who hates dogs and it's terrified of dogs Hey, Ben. How's it going? Good boy? Yeah, he's just chill

Hey, bro. He's just hanging He just hangs out in the chair right there and then I got this guy that's Mitch Oh, there's Mitch jealous because I feel like Mitch doesn't get any shine at all. And then that's Theo down there. Oh, Theo now herbie be honest with me because you take Ben with you now and I saw him on the field before the Game Florida Florida State. How many field is he has he pissed on? He you know what? I'm very I'm very very calculated with that. Um, I know his pattern. Okay. The way you know your infants, you know, a toddler's pattern. So, you know, I feed him around 7.30.

He takes care of business post breakfast. So then we're good to write it right around noon, noon, one-ish, feed him again around two. And then when we've been on the road, I've always gone outside the stadium usually around like 530. Okay. Take care of the second round. And then he's good until post game. That was you have that answer down pat. It's clear. We definitely pisses on the field. We know that. Here's the wild card. Here's the wild card. Last week at the swamp, I didn't have a time to get that second round in.

So I took him out in the field with me and the Florida social media people were all over Ben, not me all over him and a trainer came by and I was like, I had him a little more on the leash than normal because I didn't wanted to get, do it years describing. So I said, hey man, I had him a little more on the leash than normal because I didn't want it to get do it. You're just describing. So I said, Hey, man, can I get a bag?

I said, if he drops it, he'll stare on the swamp. It's going to be everywhere. Yeah. I got to pick it up. I don't want because I was terrified that he was going to do that right on the 40 yard line right by the gator at the midfield. I thought he might do it. But we got out of there unscathed and he took care of it at the

FBO after the game. You just almost have to be waiting to catch that thing in the air. Like, don't let you hit the ground get right underneath him. I met your guy Ryan when I was in Harrisonburg. Yeah, Ryan's been great. We talked about Ben schedule. He said there's been some times where he's been outside with Ben before the games for about 30 minutes. Just walking him back and forth across the same strip of grass. Like, hey man, please just take a piss so I can just get you on this field right now. Yeah, and since we've been on the road, way more than I even recognized before,

he's almost gotten to the point where he goes on command. You know, like I tell him, you know, like if you get to a certain piece of grass and it's timed up right, everything is like a very much a cycle. And then, you know, game day, he'll come out, like a JMU, he came out, basically kind of said, hide in the crowd, the crowd was massive and loud. And then Ryan takes him back in into the production room

and just kind of hangs out. And then I take him, it's been great to take him on the field pregame. I'll take him out there and players are kicking, you know, it's one of the specialists are out there, the teams are just coming out, the players come over full uniform, they're petting him and and then he'll go back to the bus during the beginning of the game and then he'll come into the booth usually around half time and just hangs out in the booth right around our feet, you know Fowler's been cool about it and then

And then we head out right after the game, but yeah, he's been awesome He's great at the hotels. He's spoiled rotten really. Yeah, he's the goodest boy He really is he's awesome awesome, but me and Big Cat can actually go on command. Yeah, we should you should spoil your dogs I'd share and not much. Yeah, Herbie I want should spoil your dogs. And share it not too much. Yeah. Herbie, I want to ask you this because I've, I've pushed back when people have complained about it. There's been, there's a sect of college football fans that are bemoaning the fact that we're going to a 12 team playoff because maybe the regular season doesn't matter as much. I completely push back on it because I think of some of these games like even Mizzou, Tennessee,

a couple of weeks ago, That's an elimination game. Like all these games matter. Some Oregon state, if they could have caught a win against Washington or Oregon down the stretch, they could have been in like, do you, you, you agree that the college football playoff, the 12 team playoff is going to make the regular season even more fun. And yeah, there'll be some weird wrinkles. Like Michigan Ohio State would be weird, but they're still playing for one seed and a home playoff game in a buy.

But I would assume that you're all in on the 12 team playoff, right? Yeah, I like getting more teams in. I think it's more fun, gives more teams a chance. The team like Missouri right now, if you put them in, and be like, whoa, you sure you wanna play Missouri right now? So I think that's good.

What's bad specifically for me in the Big 10 is you lose the divisions. Yeah. So imagine Ohio State Michigan this Saturday playing in the Big 10 championship. I think that wrinkle to me is going to be odd and going to take some time to get used to. Michigan deserves credit.

They just beat Ohio State. They shouldn't have to a week later now go have to plan them again, you know, an Indianapolis. So that to me, I'm not necessarily a massive fan of. And I think at the top, you know, like Ohio State lose, I think the AP maybe dropped Ohio State wherever they were. Six. Yeah. Down to six. So you lose in this case, if that's what the committee has them find the final ranking, they lose a buy. So instead of getting the buy as a top four team, now you're hosting a first round matchup.

So is that a massive penalty for losing to Michigan with everything on the line this year and losing and now you're seeing next year? Now next year it's going to be, well, depending, I guess if you lose to them again, would you drop all the way out? Would you go for six to 13? I don't know. But I do think I'm just looking at the poll right. You got Ole Miss at 11. You got Penn State at 10, Missouri at 9, Oklahoma is there at 12. You know, LSU with Jane Daniels is at 13, Arizona's at 14, they're another fun team.

They're really good. Yeah. Those debates are going to now, there's just the arguments, just going to slide down to that 11, 12, 13, 14 debate, just like you have, I guess, with March Madness, you know, when teams argue who should be in and who should be out. So there's always going to be arguments. I just, I think the regular season can't lose. It's important. And really the conference championship other than the SEC, because I don't know if you guys ever have been to that. That is the typically the best atmosphere of the entire year,

because that region, that still matters as much if not more than the national championship. So like this Saturday, if you guys are free, you should go down to Atlanta and watch Alabama and Georgia in that dome. Because if you go to Indy and watch Michigan and Iowa, it's just not the same. I'm sure you've been to when you was contested there. It's a good game, but it's just a little different. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And listen, it would be hilarious if Iowa beat Michigan. I don't think they can. Oh my God. Iowa being like in a 12 team playoff, Iowa, you know, obviously that Minnesota

game, they got screwed. But like that, Iowa is one of my favorite teams in college football, even though the arrival was constant, just because it makes people so angry that they keep winning these games the way they're winning them. It was crazy. They're like the bears, right? Yeah. I mean, the way the bears won last night is how they win. You know, they win field position.

They're going to win turnover margin. They got a great plunder and they're not going to give up a lot of touchdowns And they're going to they're offence is more about let's work the clock. Yeah, not a score Let's just work the clock and maybe we'll score if the defense gives us a short field Yeah, that's that's got to be their plan Saturday against JJ McCarthy I wish I saw him at at Rigglyfield when they played against Northwestern And it was one of the most beautifully painful experiences in my life watching Iowa football. Like all the, if you're an Iowa football fan, your only hope is to just get blind drunk at the games

and hope that at the end of the day, your score is higher than theirs. If, let's play hypothetical game. They gave the under. This is the point. They're 10, I had the other day. They're 10 and two to the under and the average of their over-unders is 34 and a half.

It's insane. Yeah. That has to be a new half. It's insane. Yeah. So it has to be a new record. It's insane. Let's play the hypothetical game, just because it's fun. Yeah. I was speaking real quick, speaking of betting, you guys brought that up.

I got a new bet that you guys got to get into. If the Blue Jackets ever accidentally take the lead in the third period, okay? Usually you can grab the Bruins or the planet plus 170 plus 200. Yeah, they play the money line. It's a block. I made a nice nice. It's a guarantee. Well, have that on our system or a tech system that we're gonna invent. If the

Blue Jacket's love this has a shot. I like that. If they ever have the lead in the third, yeah, every time on the phone. I like it. I'm gonna have to lead in the third, yeah, everything on the phone. I like it. I'm going to try that one out. So if hypothetically Iowa had beaten Minnesota, if they didn't have that bogus fair catch call, and then Iowa beats Michigan, does Iowa get into the playoff? Let's see. That goes back to our original talk or conversation.

If they were undefeated. Now if they beat Michigan and they're undefeated, they probably do. They probably do. If they're, and if they have one loss and they're, and they're, you know, they're playing the way they've done all year, I would just go back to are they, that they wanted the best for that that's what I would say. Yeah. And I see as big 10 champs, they would probably get in the head defenses. The problem is the way they lost to Penn State would probably preclude them because it's like they couldn't even move the ball so yeah that would be like hey we don't want to watch this again but I still love Iowa they they make everyone so upset it's great yeah they do they do it's ever going to get worked up about them yeah what I love

is they've always got tight ends they get to the NFL and they're outstanding at catching the ball unbelievable unbelievable yeah and lineman and lineman generally yeah they don't job a they get to the NFL and they're outstanding at catching the ball. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. Enlightenment. Enlightenment, generally. Yeah. They don't job a producing a big lineman. We're going to get back to Herbie in a second, but he's being brought to you by the farmer's dog.

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are people having drinks in there. I don't know. I've never been there. I'm always I'm like you guys. I you know, I go to luckily I've been in my house the last few weeks that they've done this and I don't have to worry about going down there. I think Heather should ask Heather, Dennis, that she goes down there and sits outside the room and talks to them, but I'm sure they feed them pretty well. But I've talked with some guys. I talked to Alvi

about it when he was on there. I think know, I think the coaches generally, a lot of people bring in the analytics. And then you kind of hope that the football coaches are the ones that are that are bringing the football part of it into the into the equation because like I said, if you just get caught up in the metrics of what makes a good team, I think you get you end up going down the wrong path. That's part of it, but that's not all of it. Yeah, I just want to know if there's like fights that break out and there are people

sort of yelling at each other. How he does it get, I want to see. I wonder, I think it should be recorded. We should be able to watch this debate. That would be great. And you know, when Alvi was in there with his pinky ring on, I call him Al Capone. You know, he was in there getting after people,

but I don't know. I don't know the committee this year to know what kind of energy we got going in that room. But this, if there's ever a year to argue and get after each other, this will be it Sunday morning. Yeah. So the other part of what we got going on with college football right now is obviously the coaching care cells going to start heating up. Mike Elko going to tech say an M, which I think is a good hire. I know that I thought I thought Mark Stubz would have been a good hire too, but that's a whole other issue with Texas A&M fans. Who do you have circled right now is a guy who you think is going to get a job and be successful right away? Well, the Elko hire that can you guys fill in I I left Florida state Florida to swamp yeah

texted stupes because the story broke that he took the job texted stupes hey man congrats um you know you've done great things in Lexington um you know hate to see you leave there but but wish you all the best and got on a plane and then I was about 30 minutes into the flight and then I heard He didn't get the job. Yeah, so from what I understand Texas A&M fans Are under the impression that they've won a national championship in the last hundred years and that Mark stupes was beneath them To be there. Oh, that you honestly think that's what it was. Yeah, absolutely Do you wish Yano like like yeah kind of yeah,, I mean, it was obviously a little bit of different circumstances, but yeah, I think

they they revolted, which is crazy because Mark's. He's a great coach. He's a very good guy. And also, we don't really know what happened. We're kind of speculating too, but all every A&M fan went into panic mode with Mark's stoop. It was the worst hire ever. I don't understand why because what he's done. I could tuck. He's incredible And he's also won 10 games twice as many times as text a and m has in the last 20 years

What mark stupes I think about I look at the college game is almost now become more of haves and have knots He's been a have not his entire time. Yeah, you and look what he's done. I don't know what he's averaged eight wins probably a year at UK. No one's ever done that. And you send him down to A&M with those resources and that NIL money and the facilities they have. I'm not saying my Kelko's not going to do a good job, but if that's how it went down, they thought Mark was beneath them. Man, they should have been thankful that they had a chance to get him. I think they did a good job there.

I do think that Elko's gonna be a good coach for an A&M, too. I think either way, it was gonna be a good thing, but for whatever reason, they're happier with Elko. Yeah, as far as a coach out there, I mean, there aren't a lot of big jobs open right now, right? I mean, I think John Smith going to Michigan State is going to be a really challenging job for him

because everything that's going on, they just finished like a $200 million new facility, which will help like in this new world in the arms races and NIL money. So if they're gonna give him a chance to get involved in NIL, I think he has the right blueprint for the culture that I think fits from Corvalus to East Lansing. I think it's very similar.

Kind of being, he was a second class citizen to Oregon in that state. He's gonna be the same thing in the state of Michigan to the University of Michigan. So I think he understands what it takes. So I think he'll, he's going to take some time to kind of clean that image up. But I think he could get it going there.

I don't know. Name another job. Houston's open. And we are Dan Holgerson, guys. Unfortunately, they fire Dana. But I feel like that's got to be a pretty attractive opening, right? What's in the big 12 now? Right? Yeah, you know, I mean, it's not like it's So I would I think they've gone from being a have-not-to-now-a-half, you know, because the conference that they're in

um And what's the future really with this 12 team playoff and remember we're all Kind of speculating that the SEC in the big 10 is going to be the behemoths and it's going to be everyone else. We done. Is there more realignment coming? Is the big 12 what it is now? Are they done?

What's left? Remember, there's talk about Clemson might join the SEC. Are they going to be able to get out of their contract? So I don't know if we're actually done done, but we need to be done, I think, before next season. I think what's going to happen is going to be similar to how all of the cable, you know, we went to streaming and now we have all the streaming apps and now we're bundling streaming apps, which is literally what cable was.

I think what we're going to do is we're going to keep realigning until then we like the big 10 has a big 10 West Conference And it's just what the pack 12 was right and so it's gonna just be we're gonna accidentally get right back to where we were Where it's like oh that looks exactly like what the pack 12 was and that looks exactly what the big I think I'm with you man. I think at some point we get to like 40 or 50 teams and we just divided up in I think at some point we get to like 40 or 50 teams and we just divided up in the region. Yeah. And we're like, Hey, let's call it a big 12 and the big 10 and the eight.

Well, it's like, wait, what the fuck? Like the NFL. It's going to be the AFC and the NFC and the David within it. And they'll call it those conferences. Yeah. That's, well, but we'll be all the way back where we started. Yeah, which I'm fine with. I'm cool if we got back there because then we can keep some traditional rivalries.

What they should do is relegation like in soccer where you have the ability to jump up to that highest division if you're like a group of five school, you have the ability to jump up, boom, now you're basically power five school. And if you keep stinking, you get relegated right down. In fact, that to me seems like that would be a very fun thing to watch.

But yeah, I think we're going towards there's gonna be like two super conferences and then those super conferences like the NFC will have the divisions. Yeah, yeah, which I'm fine with. All right, so. The bigger issue, guys, is I think they're gonna have to break away from the NCAA or they're gonna have to restructure the NCAA

or just put football, the big football division in its own category. And then they're gonna have to partner with the players in some way, kind of a collective bargaining agreement. And the reason I say that is they're not making any headway at all when it comes to controlling NIL or portal or any rules at all. They're going to have to put some rules together. Partner with the players, let the players have some representatives, either former players or current players or mix it at two. And then break away from the NCAA, create your own governing body and then find out, okay, hey guys, players, you cool with NILB

in this role, okay, sign off on that transfer portal. Let's have these dates and that dates great. Okay, revenue sharing, ESPN, Fox money, whoever's putting money in, players get this much, you know, the leagues get this much, gonna have to get there at some point. Otherwise, I just don't see how they sustain the model that we're currently on. It's just, I don't think it's practical. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed.

So, last thing in college football, then maybe we could talk a little at FL. Sure. What is the ultimate Doomsday scenario? I just mostly like saying Doomsday scenario. Okay. But Doomsday scenario, The ultimate is Alabama beats Georgia. Michigan, they're not gonna lose to Iowa. Michigan is gonna win.

Whatever happens Friday between Oregon and Washington, if you want doomsday, give Oregon a win because they have the one loss. Throw in a Florida state win. How about a narrow win for Florida state? Yeah, like a like a one. Yeah, last second fuel goal. Last second fuel go with the backup quarterback didn't look great sloppy game Louisville just lost it can and then Texas ends up winning in an ugly game against Mike Gundy and the Mollett against Oklahoma State. That's, I think, the biggest doomsday

that you could have. And then on record, who would your final four be just so that we can have some fan base? Under that doomsday? Yeah, they get mad at you. I'm not gonna answer that until it's a big deal. Oh, you answered that. You answered that.

Okay, under that situation, let's see, who are the biggest fan bases? Because they hate me no matter what I say. I've got Michigan, I've got... That's an easy one. Alabama. Mm-hmm. I've got...

You're putting them on the table there. I got Texas, and then I got Oregon or Florida State. No, you know what? I'm gonna go no SEC. I'm gonna get everybody mad to me I'm gonna say Michigan Oregon Texas and Florida State. There we go. How about that? Oh, I like it. Just just that's to make the most people mad and then You know what and then and then the SDS can take the SDS Championship and they'll say that that's really the national title. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. And I want to hear what you say, Big Cat, because I think Michigan would be a lock. Yep. I think Texas would be a lock. I think Oregon would be in and I think the debate would be between Alabama and undefeated Florida State. I know that the idea of the four best teams right now, I will stand on it forever that the game should matter.

And I think that that actually, it's the, it actually pisses off the least amount of people because you can just go back to him be like look games matter games matter that's it games matter would you when you when you Texas in all right yeah games matter it's actually would go over Alabama would you put Alabama in because games matter they just beat the best team in a country right but, but if you're saying Florida State's undefeated. Yeah, I'd put Florida State in. I'll go, I'll leave Alabama. You'd leave Alabama. Yeah, or you could have the debate about Oregon

and Alabama there and be like, well, Alabama just had the best win of the season. But this is dead serious. One thing to remember is when the committee does, this is actually in their handbook, when they're evaluating teams, they, when they get to what they call cluster, and this what we're describing as a cluster,

they go to, they don't weigh one more than the other. Remember that. So like head to head does an outweigh conference champion. Yeah. So like, they look at head to head, that's one of the things they take in a consideration. They look at common opponent. So another thing they take into consideration. Conference champion. That's it. Something that goes into consideration. So there's like four or five things that they look at.

That if you get to those cluster of teams, they find differentiator like, okay, let's give Texas gets the head to head against Alabama. Alabama is a conference champion. Texas is a conference champion. And then at the end of the day, if they say, you know what, we just think Alabama is better than they would say the cluster thing doesn't matter. Alabama would go ahead. So, but that just gives you an idea. Yeah. Yeah. I guess people off because you can be like, Oh, Alabama's better. Well, here's 3424 in Tuscaloosa. Right. I get. Yeah. I just, I understand the cluster tiebreaker thing, but also it sounds like a lot of different ways to try to figure out if Alabama is better than Texas when because they beat a lot of teams that aren't looking organ and Washington.

Does that work? Yeah. Oregon lost the Washington, right? And they're a 10 point favorite, they're 10 point favorite this weekend in their rematch. Yeah. Go by games matter, Washington beat Oregon. If they didn't have this rematch, your guys logic would be Washington should go in over Oregon because they're a better team and they beat him head to head. And Vegas says they're not only a, Oregon's not only a better team, they're a 10 point. Yeah. Better team. Yeah.

So you know what I'm saying? It's the weird thing for Texas is it actually would have benefited them if BYU had beaten Oklahoma state on Saturday. So they could have had a rematch against Oklahoma. And I do think that helps a lot when you can avenge your one loss and do it convincingly. Because it kind of erases it. So I just missed the days when somebody would go in the back room and press a button

and a computer would be like, Texas is better. Yeah, they're in the context. It's in USC. I don't even think those computers existed. I think it was just guys in a room. Do you remember the reason the saggerin ratings? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I remember, listen, I remember

when I first found the Sagron Ratings in USA today and I was like, did I just find the cheat code to winning all the money? Like I just take the team that's favored by more points and like has the, you know, the higher rating. But the Sagron Ratings are trying to crazy, don't do. It's a big like,

why is it just beat Wisconsin or Wisconsin, Bito, Ohio State, Ohio State still ranked ahead of them the next week. I know. It's the best though. It brought chest into the equations. Yeah. How the yellow, yellow chest.

Yeah. You really did feel like a genius when you were reading it. Yeah. When I found that, I really was like, oh my God, I found the Holy Grail. I just got to take the team rated higher. This is going to be great. I have one last question. We'll do a little NFL.

Robac question, rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q Zips, Polo's hoodies, jogger shorts. Uh, okay. So Thursday night football, um, I, so this is a question we are big out Michaels guys. And my question really is, does I'll hear any of the outside noise of being like, Oh, Al doesn't have the same enthusiasm. I thought he brought it, I thought he brought it for black Friday. So does he hear it? Because I love Al. I feel like he's someone who's had so many seminal moments as a sports fan. He is called that I will always have reverence for him. But does he hear when people are like, oh, he doesn't have any juice. He's not, he's kind of mailing it in. So let me, there are a lot of

layers here in a football, even in a prime time setting. And Thursday night football, we've had great schedule this year, we've had some great games. I find myself, like if you listen to me call the Florida Florida State game or this weekend when I'm calling, I'm standing the whole game, foulers standing the whole game, there's energy that's just unparalleled in these college atmospheres, you know,

whether you're in a place like your spot in Madison or J.M.U. or Columbus or whatever you are, you get caught up in the moment that you're performing in. And I think Al, when he would do Thursday night, or Sunday night football or Monday night football, those games were massive. You know, you're doing big games and your voice projects based on the setting that you're in.

And these Thursday night games, they're good, they're good atmosphere, but I don't think they're at the level of a Sunday night game or when I'm doing a Saturday night games. So I think your voice always matches with what you're doing. I think everyone is holding the Jacksonville game, the playoff game last year against him. I didn't work with him in that game. I think it was Tony, Dungee did. And they got a lot of criticism after that game. And I think it's almost like social medias. They're using that as a narrative.

And they're just using that in one time in the indie Denver game. He talked about how what a shitty game it was that we were doing. It was. It's almost like they're using those two examples to just say, Al Michaels hates Thursday night. Al Michaels has lost it. And as a guy sitting next to him, I've been, I'm like you, I'm sitting next to

Al Michaels. Like it'd be like you sitting next to him. I'm the biggest, his biggest fan of all time going back to the 1980 Olympics. And to be working with him is very surreal. I've noticed that Al Michaels is very much like me when the game warrants excitement. He brings excitement when the game is kind of flatlined. And let's face it, not just Thursday night, there are a lot of NFL games that are flat. I mean, last night's game sucked. I mean, it's where the NFL is right now. There's about 10 teams that get you on the edge of your seat, and there's about 20 to 22 teams that are just kind of trying

to find an identity, whether it's injuries or whatever it might be. So I think Al hears it. He disagrees with it. He's really enjoying, I think, our crew and what we're doing and what we have to work with on Thursday night. You know, to be at his age and I marvel at what he does. I'm not just telling you guys that to talk, a producer's talking in his ear. He's always recognizing and I being typically the right guy every time at his age.

I'm, I'm blown away by it. I'm not just saying that to say what defend the guy. I'm being honest with you guys. So he hears the noise. I don't think he's like, I'll show them. I'm going to really bring it this week. I, he's definitely not doing that. He has more than F you attitude about it than that I'm going to show them.

So he thinks it's a bunch of bullshit. I think it's a bunch of bullshit. And I think it's just a narrative that social media is kind of running with. I would it is that the games are so bad very frequently. There's a nice that. Well, no, no, not Thursday. Yeah, right. But every single minute.

But since it's a standalone and if a game's bad and standalone, we need somebody to be angry at. Yeah. Yeah. So then people are just like taking out their frustration and out like, I'll make this shitty game more entertaining for me. Why can't you do that?

But no, I agree. I don't think that like, Al Michaels is actually a good representation of what we're feeling on the couch if you're watching a game that doesn't have you on the edge of your seat. And when you have a good one, I still feel like he's been, he's been really, really good. Yeah, and you're right. Oh, the product overall, there's been some really tough games to watch. And like that's just a reality of it. But dude, talk to Troy and Joe.

I mean, he and I text. I mean, it's just, it's not, and I know it's, because I go back, I remember I watched Thursday night football, and they had the uniforms on, and it was just always like a, a C or a D game I we've really if you looked at our schedule in August and you looked at what we ended up having like you looked at that Miami New York Jets yeah, we yeah Roger's in two of this is back in August We're like holy shit. What a great game and Joe burrow again going against Lamar Jackson

I mean, we've had so many game Well even New England and Pittsburgh who we have in a couple of weeks, you're thinking, boy, this schedule is going to be great. And it's turned out when we got a ton of injuries, not us, the league. The league, yes. Troy gets a lot of games like this as well. So it is what it is. It's where the NFL unfortunately is. I think my take on it is the NFL unfortunately is. I think my take on it is a lot of quarterback injuries, a lot of offensive lineman injuries, a lot of dominant defensive lineman, and a lot of really poor offensive football is kind of where we are right now as a league. You know, so yeah, and what it is, you're right. It's a lot of circumstance. We have Monday night football

next week is Bengals Jaguars. We thought that game was going to be incredible. Joe, bro, Trevor Lawrence, guess what? Now we're watching Jake Browning and it's like, okay, the juice is kind of out of it. So yeah, it does feel like the quarterback, the NFL goes as the quarterbacks go. And when there's a cluster of quarterback injuries, you see it in the product. Yeah. Yeah. So you got the cowboys on Thursday. Are you, are you one of the media members that's going to gas up the cowboys? You think that they could be Super Bowl champions? Could they win the Super Bowl? If they play the way they have the last three weeks, now they haven't played anybody great.

Like, we're going to find out about Dallas in the next few weeks because their schedule is about to get real. But right now you can argue that Dax plan the best that he has in his career. And number two, Mike McCarthy calling plays. I think there's a rhythm right now. They have balance. They can run. They can throw the defense with Dan Quinn right now. I mean, there's a lot there to like. But I think everybody wants to see them play against the big boys and see how they do in the coming weeks But right now man, there's there's it's it's one of the better teams and an NFL kind of watered down They definitely stand out and the NFC got Philly you got San Fran Detroit if they can get you know

Get back to playing the way they were and you got Dallas. I mean those those teams right now are definitely standing out. I think Jerry might have lifted the curse when he allowed Jimmy Johnson to the ring of honor. I feel like that was, I'm a big curse guy. I feel like that was a combo breaker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's fair. All right. Well, Herbie, always great to have you on. You love football just as much as we love football. It's going to be great to watch, you know, Florida State maybe get in on Saturday night and we're gonna watch Cowboys and Seahawks on Thursday or the busiest guy in the world. I did have oh I forgot I should have brought this up because I can't be a fraud. You don't like the

map? Yeah the map thing yeah so it's not that I don't like it. Listen we we're lucky enough to travel first class as well, or private plane as well for some of these shows. It's not really that taxing a travel when you get to fly private. It isn't, you get to show up, you get on the plane, you get to put your feet up, you got to... But if the travel is not,

the travel, the actual, in the plane travel. Right, I'll take that. Do you have Wi-Fi on your private plane? This now the least relatable conversation of all time to be like, hey, let's come back. Because we don't have, I would say that we don't usually have good working Wi-Fi. That actually is a crisis.

Yeah, it's the hardest job in America. It's hit or miss. OK. Let me just tell you this week, because I'm not complaining. I'll just tell you this week what I did. So I'm here at my house Monday and Tuesday. I fly to Dallas Wednesday. Another the prep is the worst part of my job. The actual travel in the games that that part is enjoyable, but the prep is what really kind of bogs you down. But Wednesday to Dallas, call the game Thursday night. Right after the game, I fly to Las Vegas. And when I land, I call Oregon, Washington that night. Okay. Right after that game would go over around midnight, I'll fly to Atlanta.

And right when I land, I think I might go to the hotel, I might just go to the set and I'll do college game day from nine to 12. And then Sunday we do the selection show. So, okay, that's a pretty big week of work. Okay, fine. Yeah, fine. I don't think it's the actual flame. And Ben's with me, so I'm really spoiled.

Yeah, I was going to get that going for me too. Yeah, it was a very nitpicky thing of me. I have to admit, I was just like, I don't like to tweet. I just don't really know why it was one Tweet, you know what you should do dude? You should you should come with me one week. You'd love it No, what I need to do is I need to do one of those for me where it's just like The the art is going from from like to the bathroom to the to the refrigerator back to the TV It's like look at. Look at my Saturday. What a shit show.

That would be classic. By the way, Dave, what's the guy's name? The big Ohio State guy, the big F. Yeah. I felt so bad for the big stuff. It's tough for him. He just gets. Dave, Dave, the one I saw where he's in a car.

Yeah. And the big guy's just, just ejected, like looking out the window. Dave is just priceless with his like, real quiet, didn't even say anything. Yeah. And he's like, it's tough. Yeah.

Hate to see you like this. I just, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've I've talking about like it. Why can't I just been like a fan of cars? Yeah mechanic work on car motors my The good news. Yeah, the good news for big Ev is if he keeps losing he has a job for life because Dave will just keep you around to do that Oh, John that is too good. Yeah, yeah, it was it was quite a day One day was it gonna let me come hang out. Yes. Yeah, the war room is yes Come watch Are you familiar with Frank to tank? Yes, yeah, what do you think about Frank? He's he's a he's a met's dolphins.

What are his met's dolphins? Notre Dame Devils, Notre Dame. Is he in real? Oh, yeah, he's serious when he gets dejected to. Oh, yeah, it's it's all too real. Yeah Like he does that's dead serious. Yeah, dead serious. He's just the lives and dies of his teams. That's what we love It's why we want and just know if we're calling a dolphins game and and they're losing Frank is is Pushing you up and down He's biting a hole through his shirt being like fuck a Kirk Herbstry. Yeah, it's true SVP always laughs at them. Please Yeah, bring me in for the for the postseason. Yes

Come in there and just I just want to yell people and get yelled at yes, actually Frank needs to have one of those maps of how he gets around the country Yes, that's that would that would be it. Yes All right, well, herbie. Thank you. As always, man, we love you. Appreciate coming on and good luck with your week this week. All right. You got to get to see her. Herbie. Kirk Herb Street was brought to you by via tour. Hank and I used via tour this summer after we moved to Chicago. We're now on a nice riverboat. Took a river cruise. Viator is a website and app where you can book travel experiences like pub crawls, boat

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If you're listening to this and you want something to do on Wednesday night, tonight, I am iconic tour at the Citary Winery. There's still tickets. They're doing a live podcast. We might have to go because I think we're friends with them now. You can ask Cam anything. Yeah.

Cam is an open book. Yes, so great interview with them coming on PMT on Friday, but they, I think we might be friends with them now, so we might have to go. Yeah. If you're thinking about doing something, it was an awesome, awesome interview and they're, they're going to put on a great show. I agree. I want to print out all my old blogs about Cam Newton and just hand deliver them to him.

Yes. Yes. All right. Guys on checks, Hank. Reading. Reading. Hey, question about a piss jug here. Hmm. I've been dating my boyfriend for about one and a half years now

and recently discovered he pisses in a body armor bottle at night. His bathroom is literally five steps away from his bed and I don't understand why he urinates that instead of the toilet like a normal man. Last week I stayed over at his place for Thanksgiving and I don't understand why he urinates that instead of the toilet like a normal man. Last week I stayed over at his place for Thanksgiving and I couldn't help but stare at the body armor bottle next to his bed. I threw it out and he got mad at me.

Is this normal? Oh yeah. There's my boyfriend issues. You can't touch a piss jug like that. This is a very, very normal issue and it's not our fault as guys. We learn this habit. I don't know if you went to college, but you go to college and you have to do this because sometimes your bathroom is not close to your dorm room. Or if you're, yeah, like I know that I was on the bottom bunk, but there was a bunch of my friends who had top bunk and then you have to walk all the way down the hallway

It's like, yeah, you need a piss jug. Exactly. And the act of waking up and walking down the hallway makes you awake. Yeah, you can't get back to sleep after a good piss. Yeah No, piss jugs, piss jugs play. As long as it's designated piss jug, that's the only thing it has to be. It's the age limit on piss jugs. No. No, because no, you actually all age two piss jugs. When you get old and you're like in hospice care,

you use piss jugs again. Yeah, it's diapers and piss jugs. What's your problem with piss jugs, Hank? Sounds like you're judging. You have judgy eyes. I don't have a problem with piss jugs. I just your problem with piss jugs, Hank? Sounds like you're judging. You have judgy eyes. I don't have a problem with piss jugs. I just think that you guys even said yourself that you used to use piss jugs, but now you don't.

I feel like it's one of those things you age out of. Well, I, okay, I just took a piss. Otherwise, I would piss in this jug right in your face. I personally have not used a piss jug in probably five years. I have not used a piss jug. No, that's not true. It's not true.

Road trips count. It's not true. Road trips. Road trips count. That's different though. Mobile piss jokes are a lot different than a stationary in your house. Okay, I'm going to start using a piss joke in this studio. I might just pee right now. Yeah, I'm going to start using a piss joke in this studio. I just took a huge piss.

There's no better feeling than a big fucking piss. Just ripping a huge piss or powerful. Oh, I'm going to feel it's power. And you're just like, you feel like a new man he's pissing oh not yet I'm just okay all right next one hello fat cat poor FT what the fuck take Marsh and big belly maxi boy poor I recently found out vacations with TV temper I

recently found out that my boyfriend of four months still has Tinder on his phone. He gave me his phone while he was driving to send a text and I had to snoop obviously. Oh no. He hasn't sent a message since we've been dating, but he's an attractive guy so he still gets messages from other girls he doesn't reply to. When I confronted him, he said he kept it as a confidence boost and reminded that he's got options if I get too clingy and or annoying.

Should I break up with him or is this normal guy behavior? I think you should break up with him. Yeah, I mean, you can't. You don't talk about options if you're dating someone. Yeah, we got your options open, right? Maybe he doesn't think you're dating. But this is like, this is like if you're a GM of a team, like, yeah, that guy's untradable, but making offer.

Yeah, like I went on one dating app date, and I was like, I'm never doing this again, but I still have it. Right. And sometimes I just check it just to see. There you go, there's a piss rate. Pissed your face, Hank. The, uh, this trigger you?

Am I triggering you? Are you mad? Like, if patchwork homes is untradable, but what if someone offered a lifetime of number one picks? Yeah, that's a good point. Like everyone's expendable. Right. Everyone has a price.

Especially after four months. After four months, yeah. Four months is still, yeah, that's still in the, yeah, in the zone of feeling it out. How long? How long? And if he hasn't said any messages, like, yeah, he's just, he just has,

he just forgot to delete. Those are who deletes, who deletes apps. I think, I mean, Tinder is one of those that I think the youth is make a big deal about when it's officially official. Like I have removed Tinder for my phone. Yeah, I actually Hank, I've been thinking about cleaning up my phone

because I have so many apps, I download stupid games and all this shit. I don't know where to start. I wanna be one of those people who has shit like organized on their phone, but I can't. No, no chance. My phone is just, it's like a Jackson Pollock pain, just app scattered everywhere.

Hang on a hold on this for me. Okay, we're hearing someone. No, Jake, they didn't close the door fully. That's why. Yeah, it's still kinda open. Okay, next question. Hi guys, I'm running a college football pickin' for my office and we were in our last week.

My company is president, it's currently leading the season. Standing looks like he's gonna win the pool. His son is also in the pool and either him nor his son have paid me the $130 entry fee. How can I ask the president to pay for the pool? Or should I just cover him and his son's buying a full amount?

Thank you for your help and go Raven. I think you have to send an email to the entire pool being like, hey, some people, including those at the very top, have not paid yet. If you don't pay, then you are not eligible to win. If he is gonna win though, the other option, you could just give him the cash minus his entry fee and his son's entry fee.

It's a principle of the thing though. That is fucked up. You gotta pay. Yeah, you have to pay. Half to pay. Half to pay. I think you've got a public shame. You've got to to pay. I think you got a public shame. You got to pay to play. You got to say you got to pay to play. Hey Buddy, you got to pay up pony up. You're in this pool just like everybody else being cheap. You need it. Oh, do you need? You need a loan? You say that to your boss. Yeah, hey, I know times are tough. You need a little help. I can float you

Have you seen the price of milk these days? Sleepy Joe got you down? Hmm, I'll cover you if you need it. Alright Hank, last one. Me and my boyfriend are going to move in together in May. I've been trying to convince him that we need a dog. He's not fully convinced he might be too much work, so I've got money while also just moving in together. But I'm a teacher so I have summers off so I think it'd be the perfect time to get a dog.

I have a wild convincing, any tips. PS, I would just get my own dog, but I want the full summer to train him. Is this max? Is this, are we talking about max? No, the house. Does there a house for the dog too? Here's the, the reality of it. And this is fine because as you should get the dog, because having a dog is awesome. And every dog ownership situation with a couple, there's one person who it's kind of their dog a little bit more.

That's okay, that just means you're probably gonna have to take care of the dog a little bit more because he wasn't the one who is like, we need a dog, you are the one who's like, we need a dog. So if you know that going in, then get the dog because he'll fall in love with the dog, he'll start helping out with the dog,

but to start it will be, like you'll get blamed for a couple of things being like, you wanted the dog, but it will be fine, get the dog. He'll start helping out with the dog, but to start, it will be like, you'll get blamed for a couple of things being like, you wanted the dog, but it will be fine. Get the dog. I think now is the perfect time to do it though. If you're a teacher and the summer's, this is what summers are for now. Yeah. You got to take advantage of that time or you could like divide responsibilities, draw a line down the center of the dog. He takes care of the mouth. You take care of the butt and the piss, all that stuff. Get the dog. Get the dog. Get the dog. No one's ever regretted getting a dog. In fact, every family, every person out there knows somebody.

Know what about Koo Jo? Who has, Koo Jo's great, great dog. Okay. But every family knows someone where like the dad did not want a dog to get. And the mom gets a dog. And at first that's like this motherfucker dog. And then by the end, the dog and the dad are like in separate.

Yeah, of course. That's how it always works. Have you guys seen the drop? No. Oh yes I have. I'm worried. I just started watching last item halfway through. I can't remember. Well no James Gatoffini does die in real life. Okay, I assumed. Okay. I was worried about the dog. No, that's a great movie.

I can't remember. I think. I think you're okay. Also, I think there's a website that says does the dog die. Oh, really? That's a great website. We have that. If you're thinking about getting a dog, sign a pre-pop. In case you guys break up, decide, figure out who gets the dog afterwards. That's a fact. Okay, great show, boys.

Number's? 18. 17. 71. The rest of the day, I'm going to be doing a lot of work. I'm going to be doing a lot of work. That's a fact. Okay, great show boys. Numbers? 18. 17. 71.

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