Pardon My Take - Kirk Herbstreit, Mt Rushmore Of Water And Football Is Back

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

Football is back and Nebraska is in the shitter. Chip Kelly brought back the visor and we talk soccer and F1 (00:02:53 - 00:27:05). Who’s back of the week (00:27:05 - 00:45:21). Kirk Herbstreit joins the show to talk about the upcoming football season, his new book, Lee Corso, fans being back and being a Dad (00:45:21 - 01:34:04). We wrap up with Mt Rushmore of water with special guest Hank’s dadYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have the one and only Kirk Herb Street recurring guest talking about his new book, talking about college football, a lot of great stuff, Lee Corso, an awesome interview with Kirk Herb Street. We have college football back officially. The first games of meaningful football have been played, who's back of the week and then the Mount Rushmore of water. Before we get to all of that, we have a presenting sponsor. It is Dave and Buster's. We've been talking about Dave and Buster's for a very long time. Dave and Buster's adds more winning to

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but football is back. Football is back. Also, congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens set. They broke Vince Lombardi's record 20 and 0 in preseason football. The greatest streak perhaps in all of sports. Simply incredible. Simply incredible. So I'm in Cleveland right now. We're taping this in the middle of the afternoon because I'm going to be part of the Jake Paul circus tonight, but we are going to talk some football. We have Kirk Herb Street on in a second. We have Mount Rushmore. We should talk though. So the Baltimore Ravens, a good story. They are the preseason champs. We should talk real quick though about Scott Frost in Nebraska because the first meaningful football game was played. The first meaningful football game points were a

safety when a guy fielded a punt at the one yard line and tried to throw it out of the end zone. There's a Rouge. They were attempting a Rouge. Nebraska is a complete and utter dumpster fire. I don't know what you do. They, I don't know if you saw the graphics they were throwing up there, but Scott Frost is now 9 and 18 in big 10 football games, zero bowl games. He has the second worst record of any head coach in Nebraska history and it's a complete failure. And I feel bad for Nebraska fans. I'm sure they're probably like the fact that they had that type of failure as the standalone game in week zero has to hurt because otherwise you would have just like passed over an Illinois, Nebraska game. No, that was everyone was watching that game. That game ruled

because it was big 10 through and through. Brett Bielma just grinding them up. Scott Frost though, total disaster. It's tough. It's tough when they put the graphic up and it was Scott Frost and then a guy who looked like he was a 1901 baseball pitcher with the black and white pitcher next to him. And then another guy, I think the other guy's profile picture was just a cartoon because they didn't have cameras invented when that guy was coaching, but he is like, it's the worst start to any Nebraska coach, maybe of all time. And it's not great because they thought that this guy was going to be the savior. He was coming off national championship at UCF. He was like the prodigal son returning. This is the next guy that's going to save Nebraska football. And then he comes in,

implements a system that is decidedly not in Nebraska and how they run. Seriously, if you're the next Nebraska coach, just buy all the steroids. Just get all the steroids. If you get caught, I guarantee you that corn husker fans will not give a shit. If you get caught running the dirtiest strength and conditioning program in the history of college sports besides what's that movie unnecessary roughness, you need that. No, you need the program are unnecessary. Yeah, both of them had. Yeah, the program, but like you need the dirtiest strength and conditioning coach of all time. Just cheat. Just cheat because it would be less embarrassing if you're Nebraska to get caught cheating than it is running. Whatever you have been running for the last 10

years. Yes. And credit to Brett Bielma because I actually think he's going to be a good coach in Illinois. And he plays Brett Bielma ball that that drive to start the second half where he was like, I'm just going to run the ball down your throat for 75 yards was vintage Bielma. But it's this is like the winner yesterday was actually sneaky Jim Harbaugh because the prodigal son going home and having it being a failure now is like the big one is now Scott Frost because Jim Harbaugh at least got Michigan to like within an inch of going to the big 10 championship game in a college football playoff like Scott Frost. They haven't even sniffed it. And it's year four. And I would actually say the like it's not even the offense. He's running. It's just the fact that he keeps

trotting out Adrian Martinez, who I've never seen a guy have an ability to fumble the ball at inopportune times more than this guy. Like he just is like, Oh, this would be a this specific moment would be a soul crusher. Okay, now I'm going to fumble to fix, you know, some fumble six at the end of the half. Yeah, if you're Martinez and yes, it is a different Martinez that every no one understands that but they have had a quarterback named Martinez for what feels like 15 years in a row. But because Taylor Martinez was before that was in like the early tooth. It was like 2011 to 14 ish. Yes. And now so anytime you get outdulled by a sit kowsky, it's going to be an issue. And and credit shout out, shout out Rutgers transfer. That was wait, that was half a win for Rutgers

too. Yeah, exactly. So so he looked he looked good in comparison. But it was mostly like, is there a coach that you would less rather play in opening day in week zero than Belima? I don't think that there is because well, Saban over the course of a season. No, I would rather play Saban because everyone expects you to lose and get crushed by Saban. But Belima like that's when he's at his freshest. You get a few weeks of actual football and under Belima's belt, his considerable belt, and you're going to be facing a guy that's like a little worn down a little grind. I mean, he's a lot of man big cat. He's lost some weight, though, we got to give him credit. He's lost 30 or 40 pounds. So he does look I mean, look, when you get very big, losing 30 or 40 pounds, you're

still big. But you got to give credit where we're trying to get everyone, you know, healthy. That's how you know how big he is because he's like, I lost either 30 or 40 pounds. He's not sure. Yeah, somewhere around there. Well, I think that I think when you're that big, the 10 pound difference is really just the last meal you had. Yeah, like it can fluctuate just from that. Yeah. Have you shit today yet? Well, then I'm more like 30 pounds less than I was. Yes. So but yeah, it was, I don't know what to do. I actually now feel bad for Nebraska fans because it was it was kind of fun to joke about. But now it's like, where do you go from here? Maybe back to the big world. This is really, really sad. They have a I think it's a 20 million

dollar buyout for Scott Frost. So like, in all likelihood, Scott Frost is probably going to be there for another year, because I always just assume when the prodigal son comes home, he always gets like, it's always, however many years he should be fired, plus one, you always get that like extra year. So next year, probably be his extra year. And it's just, it's a disaster. And I want Nebraska to be good because like you said, like the fan base is incredible. They're, that's all they have, you know, or I mean, that's the big, that's the big thing in town. Obviously, it's a big thing in the state. And they've just been very, very bad. And I Scott Frost dude, you could tell too. He was like, he's, you know, how he was being cocky about last year when he's

like, yeah, we'll go to, well, no, where'd he say, we'll go to where he's, Kazakhstan or something. We'll play football at any time. Yeah, right. Now he's like, yeah, this is, we're just snake bitten. It's like, no, probably you're just bad. You guys are just bad. Yeah. I blame a couple of people for this, right? I blame, first of all, the entire university. Who is the coach? Was it Bill Callahan when he did not recruit Danny Woodhead from in state? The best player maybe in the history of the state of Nebraska? I mean, to not recruit him, I think that that put a curse. They even let him come out and do his pro day on their field in which Danny Woodhead cucked all of Nebraska's players and outperformed all of them by not recruiting Danny Woodhead, not even sending him

a letter. They probably didn't even drive past his house for the four years. Danny Woodhead was tearing up high school football in Nebraska. That put a curse on them. Number two, I blame Warren Buffett. If you're the richest dude almost in America and you you're like the only thing in Nebraska besides the University of Nebraska and you don't like sports that you're a weirdo. You need to be contributing some money to the program. You need to be building up this program. He's a Creighton guy. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. I think that you need you need to have an affinity for major sports in America if you're a billionaire or else it's just a waste of money. You're just a money pit that we're all shoveling cash into nonstop. So I blame Warren Buffett.

Like just give some money to the football program, Warren. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's I I love college football. So I kind of love like the ins and outs of when when like a disaster happens like this. And there's like, what are they going to do? Like the idea that like the AD might be texting boosters during halftime after after Adrian Martinez fumbles for a fumble six with like a minute and a half left in the second quarter, he's texting boosters being like, so how much will you pay so that we can get him out of here? Like it's 20 million. Can you can you cough up the money? Yeah, I like to think that Scott Frost was actively on Trulia at halftime. Just like, you know, just see what the house could go for. See what the cops are out there. The other

story from Saturday, we only had five games. Well, there's a couple. One was the I don't know why they played the Fresno State game at like 11 o'clock local time. But the players cleats were melting on the field. It was so hot. And I like they had to stop the game because a fan passed out. But the big, big story is Chip Kelly has brought back the visor, which I don't know if you saw. But before the game, it was like, Hey, Chip Kelly just is wearing the visor today. He's never done this at UCLA. And I was like, mortal lock UCLA, because he this is the first time he put the visor back on in a college game since Oregon. I think I'm a firm believer in weirdos like Chip Kelly. Like he purposely didn't put on the visor until he knew he had a team that could compete.

And now he's like, All right, I got my guys, I'm ready to roll visor time. Yeah, because he wasn't really Chip Kelly for the last few years, because he knew that the recruits weren't there. He knew he wasn't going to live up to the name of Chip Kelly. So why? Why put yourself out there? Just fly on the radar for a while. And then come back when you feel like, Yeah, you've got a real chance. He looked good with the visor too. Sometimes Chip Kelly's weight fluctuates so much. I don't even know if it's his weight, but it's just how swollen he is on any given day. Like sometimes he looks a little svelte. And sometimes it looks like he's got like his with the visor, it's like a rubber band wrapped around a balloon. And then you like puffs out on either side. But he looked good on

Saturday. UCLA looked good. There was nobody at all at the game. I think UCLA football, what is that like the 50th, 60th option of stuff to do on a Saturday in Los Angeles? Well, and it's also they play at the Rose Bowl. Like they don't play in downtown LA. So I think that obviously makes it, I mean, you know the traffic going to Pasadena. Yeah, I do. Oh, you know what? It was on the same day as El Trafico, LAFC against the Galaxy, the classic MLS match, the Darby. So yeah, that probably explains why nobody went there. We should talk a little soccer right now. Cristiano Ronaldo is back at Manchester United. Yeah, he basically last second of the transfer window. Pinaldo was like, Oh, where can I go get the most amount of penalties? All right, I'm gonna go back

to man you. I have a little video for when he's ready to go that I have a little Jeff Fisher video Bubba sneezing in the background. I don't, you know, man you fans, you should feel dirty. You should feel bad about yourself. Yeah, I mean, he started his career there. It's coming home. No, it's a video, a coming home video. Cristiano. Sometimes you have to go back and it's just him kicking penalty kicks. Bubba just keeps sneezing in my face and I don't know what's gonna happen. He's allergic to Pinaldo. Yeah, Cristiano Ronaldo is a little bitch. No respect coming from this side of the table to Cristiano Ronaldo. I won't even say his name. I like him. No, Hank, that's problematic Hank. If you knew anything about Cristiano Ronaldo's past, he's got his own

island, right? I'm good. So did Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I will not say his name on this podcast. I won't. I just, I simply won't do it. Man use a trash franchise. Although I'd still rather cheer for them than Arsenal at this point, like five nil. I mean, come on. Oh, they stay. They stink. They stink. They're rubbish. Actually, it was funny because Jetski who works with us does the graphics for troops in Za for the man or for the Arsenal games, the streams, and we're at rough and rowdy on Friday night. And I think he was out and he basically stayed up late to make all the graphics. And he was like, essentially half asleep when he got in the car on Saturday morning. And I was like, yeah, do you see Arsenal lost five? Nothing. He had made

every graphic except up to five goals because he's like, this can't happen. So he like made one, oh, one, one, two, one, two, two, all the graphics. He's like, are you fucking serious? They lost five to nothing. So yeah, that's how bad Arsenal is right now. They're just, they're exceeding even the graphics for live streams. Yeah, just real bad, real, real bad showing by the boys more arsenal. I'm our Ted out now. I think they should bring back. They should bring back Wenger, right? I've been our Ted out for a long ass time. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine rooting for man you when they're not even the best soccer team in Manchester? No, not me. I couldn't do it. Not me. Man City. What part of London is Manchester? It's in South London.

Got it. It's where when they hit the Cockney accent, that's Manchester. Actually, no, no. That's it's Peaky Blinders. That's Manchester. Ah, okay. Nice. Good to know. Little, little historical. Let's do real quick. I just watched three hours of a rain delay on F1. That's all I got. Oh, I have one thing from it. Did you see Lewis Hamilton on his, he was talking about some dude, I think it's Christian Horner dropped a bomb. Lewis Hamilton on the, it was a cameraman. It was a cameraman. So Hank, you got to, you got to stand up for yourself. Lewis Hamilton said this, I'm glad I went to the toilet. The one I went to, someone had dropped a crazy bomb in there. The worst thing ever. I'm going to haunt me. It's going to haunt me for life. That was pretty much

the highlight of F1 today. Okay. Wait, that was Lewis Hamilton said that. Yes. Yes. He said it's going to haunt him for life. It was probably Christian Horner's toilet. Yeah. But so what Hank said, and he's right, is they said that it was a French cameraman who went to that bathroom. So Hank, do you think as a cameraman yourself who blows up toilets? Big cat. We're talking about people in this room that blow up French. Oh, what have I ever blown up a toilet in your face? All the big cat, you literally, you talked about how you literally clog every toilet of every bathroom. We've all blown up our fair share. Have you clogged the toilet in your

bathroom this weekend yet? No, actually no. Actually no. Thank you. Prayers up for it later. It seems like you're shaming me. No, I'm just saying, you're trying to say I'm the bomb, the bomb exploder in this. I think you're a cameraman. I do think it's a little unfair to point any finger because as a podcast, I think we've, we probably have like 2.5 toilets broken per person as an average. But I do what I know what you're saying. I think when you're a cameraman, you always are, you're, you got to be locked in. You only get so many minutes of break. So it's probably something that you hold in for a long time. And then when you get to release it, it's a bomb. I wasn't saying that it was a bomb because it was you. I just added that.

I was talking about from a cameraman's perspective, if you like blow up a toilet, if you were doing it, like maybe you were doing Sunday night football, you blow up a toilet. Now Michael's goes in after you. Like you kind of have to quit. Yeah, that's tough. It's definitely tough. Like if they know who this guy was, which it sounds like they do, I think you have to quit. How do you can't go, walk around and see his face and be like, yo, that he said, this will haunt me forever. Well, maybe it was a race car driver who's seen like people die in crashes. How did they positively ID who's shit that it was? Did they check it? Did they test it? Like get a sample of it? Or did they have like, they've got surveillance and they went back to the security room and saw

no, I think who went in first because that's kind of went in. No, he just went in after someone. He just went in after that. That's kind of on you. You got to give a little buffer zone. Like if somebody walks out of a porta potty, you don't ask the person, hey, can you hold the door for me? I'm going in next. You got to give it a good like, you know, five, six minutes to cool down. It's too hot. You can't go to a hot zone. Guns blazing. This guy's got to quit. This guy's got to quit. He's got to quit. What other sports anything else that we got to talk about sports? Yeah, there was a tie. There was a preseason tie. I didn't know that that happened. It didn't even go to overtime. It was the Jets and the Eagles 31 31.

Jake, that's probably a score. Gami, right? I'll check. I would assume so, but maybe not because they used to be ties. Yeah. 31 31 are technically. Yeah. I mean, you can tie in the NFL. Oh my God. Score Gami.com is offline for maintenance. Oh, sweet Christ. They need a fix. Jesus Christ from today. Emergency. That would be terrible. Emergency. I guess the hottest debate right now is, is it going to be cameras? It going to be Mac? Oh, yeah. We're still talking about that. And bell checks keeping it pretty close to the vest. So I don't know. I one thing that I've heard and I love this line of dialogue, people saying, you know what, Mac Jones, he's not going to be the best rookie quarterback, but he's the most NFL

ready rookie quarterback right now. I love that. So he's going to go in and probably not lose you any games. Whereas Cam Newton is probably going to lose you a couple of games, maybe win you a couple of games. Mac Jones is just kind of going to be there. I don't know if you feel the same way big cap, but I mean, I know you're like trying to get Justin Fields starting, even though any, any Dalton's a super nice guy, but I just, I would prefer Cam Newton to start because then you get, you have no wiggle room. It just seems like if Mac Jones starts, Cam Newton is going to be mad. And if Mac Jones does bad, then it's going to be like a disaster. Whereas if Cam starts and is bad, it just extends the season a little bit. Well, it gives you more, it gives you a second

chance versus if you do it the opposite way, it seems like much more of a shit show. I see you're saying, I kind of agree with what you're saying. I think the Bears are a little bit of a different case. I'm more mad at just Matt Nagy, like getting in front of everyone and saying, we have, we still have to evaluate Andy Dalton. Like that's, that's more where my anger comes from. The fact that he's just lying to us and the idea of a quarterback competition never existed. But I see what you're saying. Like if Mac Jones starts, you might lose Cam Newton and then like not lose him, but you know, he's like, well, fuck this, I'm a starter. And then if Mac Jones does poorly, but I, I don't know. I think Belichick's, I guess the real difference here

is like Matt Nagy, I think is a fucking moron. Bill Belichick is a genius. Bill Belichick's going to do whatever is right to win football games. Matt Nagy is going to do whatever is right to try to save his job. So I think the motivations are different. And that's why if you're sitting in your seat, you like just trust whatever Belichick does. I think Matt Nagy has even moved on though. I don't think that he's trying, his motivation isn't trying to save his job. His motivation at this point is just like, what can I do to get myself another friend? And so I think if I start Andy Dalton, he'll be my friend and he'll like me. So yeah, Belichick doesn't give a shit about that obviously. And you're right. Like Andy Dalton has come off the bench a few times. Nice guy in

his group. Very nice guy. I know it's huge. Hank hasn't said anything about Cam being a nice guy. Huh? Cam's a nice guy. Oh, nice guy. Oh, okay. Nice guy. Great fashion. Great fashion. We all love it. Yeah. Andy, Andy Dalton is a great guy. MVP. Andy Dalton also didn't win MVP. That's true. That's a good point. That's a very good point. Um, yeah. So, and then we also had Urban Meyer. He, I just love coach speak so much because I think maybe a week and a half ago, he was like, yeah, we're still evaluating our quarterbacks. And then they traded Gardner Minshew for like a six rounder. So they, they were, it was neck and neck Gardner Minshew, Trevor Lawrence. And then they traded him for a six rounder. It was, it happened that fast.

Yep. Yep. No one knew. I tell you what, I wouldn't want to be the, the person that goes into the porta potty after Gardner Minshew because remember he said he wasn't going to take a shit all training camp because he didn't even want the number two, the phrase number two to like enter his dialogue. So, uh, it's going to be him up in Philly. I just feel like Philly doesn't know what Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I feel like Philly has no idea what they're going to do with this season. It's like chaos. It's utter chaos. Like, because even, even the people that kind of like Jalen Hertz are like, we like Jalen Hertz, but this guy's clearly not the answer for us. Like no one, they don't have a clear

direction at all. It's just kind of like pandemonium in Philadelphia right now. I think without looking at the Eagles schedule and my very, um, uneducated guess is that Philly's going to play decent to start the season and everyone's going to say, wow, look at Jalen Hertz. And then they're going to, because they don't have like the super talented roster, then they're going to fall off and everyone's going to say, well, the league figured out Jalen Hertz. Okay. And then it sounds like if you give up all this, all this capital to get Minshew, sounds like Joe Flacco might be the odd man out in Philly. All that capital, six rounder. I mean, if you give up something for the guy, you know, you know what the Texans are asking for

to Sean Watson? You're like five first round picks and then the dolphins are asking for like a bunch of clauses to get them all back. Right? Yeah. They're like, Hey, if he's a rapist, can we get our stuff back? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just going to throw this, this quick, uh, this quick disclaimer on this trade proposal. Yeah. And honestly, like I kind of agree with that disclaimer. If a player gets convicted of 22 counts of sexual assault after you trade for him, you should be able to send him back. I'm not going to say I've, I've found a piece with dolphins fans, but so past me would say, Hey, it seems kind of weird that they're even having discussions if two is the guy. But again, I've found peace with dolphin fans. So I'm just going

to say two is the guy. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I feel like two, uh, the micro microscope isn't so much on two anymore in Florida as it is Trevor Lawrence. Like two is going to be able to skate if he has an average season this year and Trevor Lawrence stinks it up. Two is kind of off the hook. We don't, do you expect to? Well, what's the bar for success for two or right now? Like, do you, do you want him to go out there and light it up? Well, yeah. Cause I think the dolphins have like a playoff caliber roster. I mean, they were, they were, they were decent to like good last year. So I think that two is, it's basically his play has to pick up. I think Trevor Lawrence is a wash this year. Like he doesn't have to do because the Jaguars stick and they

don't have anything around him. So he's, he's kind of good no matter what. And I think he's going to look good. I think two has to show something this year. Yeah. But I'm saying like he was so bad at times last year that just an average season this year out to a, I think that goes a long way. Oh, I think they need to make the playoffs. I do. I think, well, I think the dolphins can make the playoffs with two of being average. Are they doing the extra, the extra game this year? No. How many teams make playoffs this year? Yeah. I think extra game, right? Your game, the big head game. Yeah. They're doing a Nickelodeon game. Nick Jr. Slime time. I don't like how they changed the playoffs in MLB and then changed it back. If you change the

playoffs once, I just expect it to stay that way forever. So thankfully the NFL has done that. Or when they switch from like certain rounds being three or best of five to best of seven, and then they go back. No. If you're a dad and they change that, you will never remember it ever for the rest of your life if they change it back. Yeah. I think NBA absolutely should go back to the best of five. The Campe Mutombo shocked the world. Yeah. Those are the moments that you get. My dad still calls it the pinnit. Like you can't change things up on dads. Yes. Yes. All right. Let's get to who's back of the week. Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at the Cash App. The stock market is back. Investing through the Cash App is back. Buying and sell

Bitcoin. So download the Cash App, enter the referral code Barstool. You'll receive $10 and they will now send $10 to ASPCA. When you download the Cash App from the App Store, Google Play Store today, the Cash App is back. Do it right now. Check it out. Buy stocks, buy and sell Bitcoin. Do it all with the Cash App. Okay. Who's back of the week, Hank? My who's back of the week is Trent Dilfer. Oh, all right. Did you guys see this video? Yes. Dilfer is a high school coach. This is actually kind of a foreshadowing to, you think that was a salt shake? Not really. So this is a little foreshadowing to our interview. We talked about it with Herb Street. Dilfer is a high school football coach now and there was

a viral clip that went out on Friday or Saturday of him. Like apparently a player talked back to him and it was like Dilfer trying everything in his power not to assault him. Like he was up in his face screaming him. He was kind of like walking towards him and the kid was walking back. Like he wasn't really like pushing him. Like his arms didn't extend with the push, but he definitely walked him back, was screaming in his face, just outfitting the shit out of him. It was just one of, it was a, I think, I mean, I'm curious to see what Billy thinks. I think it's a regular like kind of football player and football coach interaction if a player is like giving him shit. But it was just funny because it was Trent Dilfer being an absolute psychopath.

Yeah. I'm watching it right now. He, yeah, he's dogwalking him. That's a dogwalk to his own player. I put most of the blame on the holdback guy. Trent's holdback guy does an awful job. So Trent's, the holdback guy is nowhere to be found until the very end when the player spikes his helmet on the ground. And then the holdback guy does a half ass job of grabbing his belt. You need to have a hand around the waist the entire time, providing backwards resistance on Trent Dilfer. But Trent Dilfer looks kind of jacked up also in this clip jacked up. Yeah, he does. He does. He looks busy. Billy, what, what, uh, what did you think dude with a lot of this stuff? It's just cause Trent Dilver is under a microscope cause he's trying to deal for like

this. This happens Friday nights across America. Just like guy getting chewed out and apparently their team is like, apparently their team is like one of the best teams in the country. That's excellent. There's also a sliding scale with like being a hardo to your kids. And it's, you know, like high school, like if this was, if this happened in the NFL, like you, what are they doing? Like that no one's going to respond, no grown man's going to respond to that type of coaching. But I think when you're in high school that it plays. Oh, this isn't even that bad. Now that I'm rewatching, I agree. So the thing I was curious for Billy and big cat, I guess, as a father is cause a lot of the comments were like, imagine if your, your dad

understands and you see this happen, like what's your reaction? I'd be like, good. He's coaching them hard. I mean, as long as he, cause he didn't, right, there was no like, there was no like physical assault. It was just like, he does Bobby night. Right. It's not, you know, Bobby night choking a kid. Like, like Tom is a, it happens every year with Tom is a warrior, like grab a guy, grab a kid. Like I hate the argument. You never put your hands on a, on a player. It's like, grabbing a guy by the shoulder, grabbing them by the elbow. Come on. Are we really, are we really going to get upset about that? Obviously if it's, if it's like punching, choking, like actual malicious intent, this, there was no malicious intent in this.

All right. So it, upon further review in this clip, Trent doesn't really touch them besides like even what he's doing to the kid as he's walking backwards. Like that's, he's got his hands on the kid's pads. Great hand place. Good hand. Yeah. It's not even a hold. It's just like keeping your hands inside and maintaining leverage. He just walks towards them. That's, yeah, you're right. That happens at probably 10,000 high schools across America every weekend. Also, some of these guys are in such a mindset that it was probably actually good Trent Dilfer talked them down. Cause if emotions are flaring, like he could have been yelling at a ref. I don't know what the context was, but getting himself in more trouble. So

it's almost like you got a corner, you know, the angry bull. And to add to all of it, I hate the reaction whenever something like this happens because you don't know this player and the coaches like how their relationship works. Right. It's just, you get a glimpse of it for a split second and then you decide immediately, Oh, how could he ever do that? That might like the player could have ultimate trust in the coach. They could, it could be a player that says, I need to be coached hard. Like this is the buttons that need to be pushed. So I never see a brief second of that. And they're like, Oh my God, how could he? It's just ridiculous. By the way, I've been looking at the computer the whole time, not the camera.

So that's going to be weird for the clips. I just realized also, by the way, just a second ago, I saw Liam put up an Instagram story of you, big cat. And I don't know if it was the camera angle, but like it looks like you're sitting at a kitty desk. Well, Liam, not to incriminate ourselves. He ripped a nightstand off the wall for what I'm used to right now. I'm, my knees are in, like there's nails in here that he ripped off the wall for the love of the game. I sat down and I looked and it's just, it's like a piece of wood dangling off the walls. Like, did you rip this off the wall? All right, wait, we have an update here from Lipscomb Academy football, a statement from our head coach Trent Dillford on the viral video

going around. I want to address the incident on our sideline memes. Don't even think about it. Don't, I know where your head went memes immediately during Friday night's game versus independence that has drawn a lot of attention. First and foremost, I take full responsibility as the head coach and leader of our team for not de-escalating an emotional situation with one of our players, Bo Dawson. Bo is one of our finest student athletes and embodies all the characteristics we're looking for in our Mustang players. He plays the game with the right kind of passion and is an inspiration to other players. During a moment of frustration in an attempt to get our team to play with more discipline, I unfairly single Bo out. Somehow Bo has been

portrayed publicly as the culprit when in reality I should have been a better leader and showed greater wisdom and discernment in how I handled this incident. Overall, I could not be more proud of Bo and the rest of our team for how they handle the emotional nature of each game they compete in. That's, that's a good thing. That's, that's Trent jumping on a grenade for Bo. What was the score of the game? Because I have a feeling it was a blowout. They were, there was, I think I saw that they've won their two games by like a hundred. Yeah, they were probably blowing their team out and they wanted to keep it cordial. Yeah, Bo probably wanted to get back into the game because he's such a competitor

and Trent was like, you stay on the sideline, we have class at this program, young man. And I still feel like, I feel like if we ever interviewed Trent Tilfer, he would say like it didn't happen, but the, the story of him asking for the private jet is like still, I think the funniest, the funniest story of any ESPN personality of all time. Yeah. All time, all time miscalculation of knowing your word. Yeah. That's it. That's my, all right. PFT. Good. Who's back, Hank? Thanks. Good. Who's got the discussion going. My who's back of the week is giant thermometers. Number one giant thermometers were out in full force this weekend. We saw one out in Fresno. The temperature on the field was

like 135 degrees. And when they say on the field, I realized now they literally mean on the, they're measuring the temperature of the black pellets that are on the football field because they lay the giant thermometer down like in the turf. They don't just like hold it next to themselves. So it was like 130 degrees down on the field and 90 degrees in the air. And as Big Cat said earlier, it was melting people's cleats, which doesn't, doesn't seem safe to get tackled on, doesn't seem safe to play on. But I just, I love the giant thermometers. Then there was a second giant thermometer. And I think that one was more like 80 degrees, 85 degrees. But you get, you get kind of bookended in football season by giant thermometers at the start. They're

like, holy shit, the field is 130 miles an hour or 130 degrees. Then at the end of the season, the giant thermometers come back out again in the playoffs when they're like, can you believe it? It's negative five degrees here in, in Foxborough, Massachusetts. And the dolphins don't have a chance like that sort of thing. Yes. Yes. Giant thermometers are definitely bad. Love John. And then I had one more who's back just football guys back in general, Brian Harson is back. So if you, in case you've forgotten about Brian Harson, he is coaching now at Auburn. Yeah. So he said that he's sick of his players taking the elevator. And he wants a blue color mentality on the team. And so he installed, he installed a sign in the elevator of the athletic complex saying it's for injured

players only. Everyone else has to take the stairs. So no one else, this is such a classic football guy thing too, because I guarantee he thinks of everything literally. So when he's like, you know what, you can't skip any steps on the path to excellence. So you can't skip any steps in my practice facility. It is like Josh Hypo that we talked about last week that he likes the enthusiasm that his players are taking the stairs, like how they're walking up the stairs. It just, every time we hear something like this, it makes you realize why Nick Saban just keeps kicking everyone's teeth in. Yeah. Because like these guys are worrying about elevators and stairs and Nick Saban is just rolling out five star recruits and in first round draft picks and just demolishing

everyone. Yeah. If Nick Saban figured out teleportation, he would just teleport his players from the weight room to the practice room or the practice field to the film room to the cold tub. And he like, he doesn't give a shit how you get around the place. He's just like, okay, we're going to be better, faster, stronger than everybody. Yes. Yes. All right. My who's back of the week. Two of them. One is Kanye. Donda finally dropped. I listened to it once through. I like it. I think it's good. There's some good songs on it. I know that Kanye has, if you throw out an opinion on Kanye, like I just tweeted simply, I like Donda because I listened it one time through and I thought there was, I don't know, five or six songs that I liked and

a couple that I really liked. And I just had to mute the conversation because there's just, if you have an opinion on Kanye in any form online, it's just an immediate lightning rod. Yeah, it's okay. That's my official review. Donda, it's okay. Yeah, I liked it. I liked a couple songs. I mean, there's like 40 songs on there. So if there's a couple bangers, why not? There's a lot of filler. I feel like Kanye wrote this album and he envisioned like he envisioned it being a soundtrack to a movie that he has not produced yet. And so it's coming. Yeah, I'm sure there'll be like a accompanying film that goes along with it. So there's a bunch of stuff on the album that's like people chanting are just songs that aren't really songs, but kind of like back

ground stuff. But yeah, you're right. There are a couple good tracks on there. So I'm glad that he's back making music again. That's what I'll say. Welcome back, Kanye. Absolutely. And then my other who's back is so obviously right now we're recording this in the middle of the hurricane that's hitting Louisiana. We have friends in Louisiana. We love Louisiana. So we're hoping everything's okay. But the who's back that's related to that is fans of rival teams taking it one step further. We always joke about fans who throw out the like, Hey, as a Jets fan, like I hope Saquon Barkley gets better. People are actually doing this for the hurricane. So the Saints tweeted out like praying for the Gulf Coast and the region is hurricane night of makes landfall,

which makes sense. There are people in the replies who are like Falcons fan here praying for the best possible outcome. I just class I'm blown away with the fact that a Falcons fan can actually pray that people don't die even though they do have a rivalry. Yeah, Falcons fan here. I'm just scrolling through Falcons fan here. Just bucks fan praying for you guys. We have been there. Like this is Broncos fan here. Please take care of the animals over there. Stay safe. Giants fan here. Please stay safe. Why are why are people announcing their fandom when it's not a game? Not a game. Little lives are like at risk right now. Not a game. This isn't we're not talking about an injury in a game. We're talking about a hurricane that's going to devastate people's homes. And they're like, Hey,

just a hands up just so you know, Broncos fan coming in peace. Yeah. No one dies. That's what that's what I like the best. I want to see what's going on in like the LSU Reddit pages where it's like, Hey, Auburn fan coming in peace here. Just want to say hope nobody dies. Yeah, right. If you could give me some up. I would appreciate it. What else do I have to say? I fucking hate you guys on the football field, but I hope your house doesn't get flooded and you can't afford to fix it. Just want to say what even though I might pull for the Gators, I want to say that I hope your grandparents can still breathe. It's fucking insane. Yeah, triple sports. Unbelievable sports but I sort of shake these people and be like, what are you talking about right now? Yeah,

you don't have to announce who you root for when you're rooting for humanity. Although I do think that every time they write an article in the paper about somebody who's arrested for a heinous crime, they should preface it with what team that person roots for the most. Yes. So it's like Pittsburgh Pirates fan arrested for human trafficking. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. All right. Jake, my who's back is murder hornets. So these things first popped up in early 2020 and we kind of forgot about them because of COVID and you forgot about them. Yeah, you've been on high alert. I've remained vigilant. All right. Well, unfortunately, they're back. The first nest was eradicated in Washington. So that's good news, but I'm sure Billy's on the lookout for more. Have they done any murders?

I don't think so. So they're not the hornets. They're just the hornets. I like the one single hornet thing just cracks me up every time. Well, it's true. One single murder hornet can take out an entire hive of honeybees. So it's bad news if you're a honeybee in the greater Seattle area, but besides that, the chances of you being killed by a murder hornet are actually less than the chances of you being struck by lightning when you're going outside to look for murder hornets. I actually have the reason why they're called murder hornets. They're actually Asian giant hornets. They got the nickname murder hornets because they enter a quote slaughter phase where they kill bees by decapitating them. This metal is so they don't.

So that's not, that's not us. They don't murder us. No, when we were talking about last year, they kill like 50 to 100 people a year in Asia. They get, they have numbers up there. But that's, but Billy, that's people who are allergic to bees. No, no, but like if they were to have a wide spread, they're not decapitating humans. No, they're staying. But bees, yeah, but bees kill people too. Like would that be like me saying, Hey, Hey, this Jiffy over here, it's murder peanut butter. That's the same thing. It kills people. I think it also is a Jiff. Is it Jiff? It's Giffy. Oh, it's Giffy. Yeah. Yeah. But that's like, that would be the same thing. Like, Oh, this shrimp cocktail, it's murder shrimp cocktail because it kills 20 people a year,

but they actively seek out to stink. To who? I think it also kills people who aren't allergic. I think it's like their venom is bad. I think you could probably die if you got stung enough, but you'd have to be a real idiot to, like if a swarm of murder hornet started to follow me, I would simply walk away from the bees. I'd simply grab a hose and nuke them. Oh, you know what I would do? It's very easy. You just lift your shirt up over your head, and then you walk away. That's it. Foolproof. I'd punch them in the face. Well, he's their own. Yeah. I, you know what? I jump into a lake. That actually doesn't work. Why not? Like they wait for you above the water. No, they don't. Yeah, they do.

No, they don't. They don't have memories. They do. No, they don't. They're relentless. Billy, you don't know. That's actually true. They mythbusted it. I'm pretty sure. Really? The bees waiting for people above the water. I'm pretty sure. They just did a study that came out. If you go into a lake, the bees are still going to be siebs. You could be right, Billy, but your ability to be super confident and then just add, I'm pretty sure, at the end, is always amazing. All right, Billy, who's your who's back? My who's back is the natural order of things. Unfortunately, as we see, Trevor Lawrence will be the starter on the Jaguars. And unfortunately, Sam Elinger is out with

a tweaked ACL, sprained ACL, so he will not be starting the Sam Elinger beating out Trevor Lawrence. Prediction has not come true for now. You had you had your week, though. That was a great week. Did you see his spin move out of the sack to the wheel route up the sideline this weekend? Like that was amazing. I mean, so far what we've seen on tape, I think Billy was right. I don't think that you can make an argument that Billy was wrong in his assessment based on what we've seen at the NFL level so far. Exactly. Yeah. And Billy, you should not you should not feel down about yourself because when you make a take like that that is so out out out there, the fact that you even have like a percent to stand on right now is incredible.

Like that week was incredible for you. It was awesome. Like it was little highlights were amazing. Lighting up. So you deserve credit for that. All right, let's get to our interview. We got Kirk Herb Street coming up. Awesome interview. Talked college football, his new book, some life stuff, Lee Corso. It is all brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Chevy's the greatest truck ever created, the Silverado. It is literally the greatest truck ever created. I drove one. I love it. If you're thinking about becoming a truck person, the Chevy Silverado is there for you because the Chevy Silverado, it is the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever. It's dependable like the people who drive them. The design is big, bold and commanding. This truck turns head.

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College football is back. Also, he's got a new book. It's called Out of the Pocket, Football Fatherhood and College Game Day Saturdays. So I have some questions about the book, but I wanted to talk about football first. Yeah. So college football is back. What, walk me through the levels of excitement and what goes through your mind when we get closer and closer and then eventually get to that point of, okay, it's college game day. We're here. We've made it through the summer. Are you like at the end of August, like, you know, just jumping, like ready to go? I don't know. You guys feel, I don't know if I've ever looked forward to a season more than right now. Like I'm watching the college world series and watching some of those baseball

crowds and the beer flying and water flying on home runs. I mean, I was thinking that was college baseball. I was like, I can't even imagine what college football is going to be like on these campuses. So I'm fired up. I was dreadful to call games and empty stadiums and not have the normal, like going to Madison and seeing tailgating and just feeling that energy leading up to a game and doing the game. As you guys know, I mean the NFL is great, but the college game just offers a whole different level of energy and to not have it a year ago makes me, I think, that much more amped up for it this year. It's absolutely true. College football and basketball, you need the fans because, you know, a lot of people who are not college football fans would be like, why do you

watch? There's only three teams that could win it every year. Well, I watch partially and I'm a fan partially because of the game day experience and everything that goes into a tradition, all those things. So not having like the bands was terrible. Man, first of all, anybody who says, why do you watch it? Because there's three teams that can win it. I don't know. I don't really watch football because it's all about a championship. Like I watch it because I like to watch a good game. You know, I like whether you're betting on it or you're just watching it. I don't think it matters. You know, the postseason sucks. I mean, we have to fix it. It's got to get better. The best regular season, the worst postseason right now in sports. So that has to be fixed.

But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy when teams get together. Like you said, whether it's tradition or it's a rivalry or it's a hyped up crowd, you know, like you go to Iowa City, for example, you go to anywhere, you know, anywhere where it's a full stadium and people that are lunatics that are just passionate about their team and a good team goes on the road into that environment. It's fun to watch. So it's just competition. You know, if you don't enjoy competition, then you probably won't like college football. Yeah, if you watch Iowa and Iowa State play like week two and you're like, well, this doesn't matter because neither of these teams is Alabama. You got a big dump in your pants. Like sports probably isn't your thing to begin with if that's what you're going to hold

it up over. And when it comes to like having the fans and the passion in the crowds, when you were broadcasting, could you did you hear the like overdubbed like fan fan noise that they would put in? Was that coming through your headset? Did they pipe that in through the speakers in the in the stadium? Yeah, I mean, I think I'm going to did the NFL game with the Giants and the Steelers. It met life. I think it was into the into the stadium. You could feel that. A lot of the college I did a handful of college games where there was just nothing. I'm telling you, it was the most bizarre thing to just have no reaction. You know, like, like we did a Michigan might have been Michigan, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin. I can't remember who it was. It was family. That was the only ones

allowed moms and dads. And it was, I don't know, a couple hundred people in the stands. And there was no there was no crowd noise done then. So the games where you heard crowd noise and at least the college games, it was it was just as far as my experience, it was what was in the stadium. So I did a Georgia game, and it was 20% full. And the noise was amplified because you're used to a dead stadium. And it was 20,000 people in there. And it was really, really loud. That was actual fans. But yeah, I think the NFL is the only ones that work their NFL, you know, not another level of technology, they work their crowds into the into the into the broadcast itself. Yeah, the Falcons have been doing that for years. They've just been pumping that in. They've got

experience with that. I'm glad you brought up the NFL thing, though. Are you going to do another game this year? I think we are, you know, within going to week 17. Remember ESPN used to have that doubleheader at the beginning of the year. That was the game we called last year with it with the Steelers and Giants. This year, because week 17, I think they're going to push us to the end of the year. So it'll be the last week of the regular season games. I think we're going to do a game that week. And then, you know, where to go from there. I'm not real sure. All right. So conference realignment. I know that you have no say. I know that you may not even know what exactly is going to go on. But in times of trouble, we always look to someone else to tell

us it's going to be okay. Yeah. So tell me it's going to be okay because I'm a realist in terms of the big 10. If Ohio State wants to do something, they can do it. They are the big 10 at this point. In terms of the national like, you know, sitting at that table with the big dogs. So tell me it's going to be okay. Tell me Ohio State is happy and they're not going to rock the boat and everything's going to be fine. I don't think Ohio State or Michigan would ever pull themselves out of the big 10. You know, I think, I think what you're going to have, my guess would be what we'll have is these four super conferences. You know, I wouldn't be shocked to see us get to these four 16 team conferences. I don't know what's going to happen what's left of the big 12. I don't know

if some of them joined the big 10, some joined the pack 12. But I can I can see three years from now. They're being a pack 16. You know, the SEC has 16, the big 10 has 16, the ACC has 16. And they pull away from the NCAA. They create their own governing body, their own land, their own world. What I think is essential is I don't know how you guys feel, but Roger Goodell, you guys love him. You hate him. I know you guys hate him. But think about this. At least you have one voice as the commissioner of the NFL. Roger Goodell is not the commissioner of the NFC South or the commissioner of the AFC West. Roger, Roger Goodell is the commissioner of the NFL. College football, we have Greg Sanky, who's worried about his own backyard, right? He's worried about

Texas and Oklahoma coming into his yard, his constituents, his coaches, his presidents, his ADs, his fans, his players, the guy out in the pack 12. He's worried about his little world. Kevin Warren's worried about the big 10. We've got to find a commissioner of college football. One voice, all these other conference commissioners report to him. He makes a unilateral decision for what's best for the game to move forward. We cannot continue to have people who don't trust each other, who are looking over their shoulder. This guy wronged me. What are we going to do about this and only worry about their little world? We have to find a voice that worries about the whole sport. So are you going to do that job? Because I agree with you. I think the problem right now is

we went through the big conference realignment, whatever it was a decade ago. I can't remember, but it's more just like feeling like there's a never ending feeling to it where it's like this now is happening. So there's going to be dominoes. And then in 10 years from now, it could happen again. So I'm with you. I just, I want to have like, Hey, here's the plan. Here's what it is. This is set. We're not going to be changing it every 10 years and being worried about some team leaving our league or, you know, a super league being created. Just give me the knowledge that like we're okay going forward. So I think you should do the job. I think you just created a job for yourself. I'm voting for you. Well, we need closure is what you're saying. We need to be

done with this. It's ridiculous. You know, when, when the brass schools like Nebraska left their region, West Virginia left going further back. Remember when Virginia Tech in Miami used to be in the big East. And you know, once that started to crack, everything started to get kind of wacky. And so I'm with you. We need to get through this, whatever, wherever we're going. I have no idea where we're headed. But wherever we're headed, hopefully within a couple, two to three years, it's done, right? And then I wouldn't be shocked. You imagine them pulling out of the NCAA. It feels like that, right? Yeah, it was like, they're going to go do their own thing. The NCAA is kind of a fake committee. It's just like people that have managed to seize power for a certain amount of time.

And everybody else agrees. Yeah, we'll operate under the NCAA guidelines, if it means that we can keep making money and playing sports against each other. But in reality, there's no real loyalty there. Yeah. And I also think it's just our kick, right? I think the rulebook that they have and when those rules were written, many of them don't apply to what's happening in 2021. So either blow the NCAA up and start over, or you pull out. Like what Cornell or Colgate are doing shouldn't apply to what Alabama and Wisconsin and Ohio State are doing. It's just a very different model today versus where sports were decades and decades ago. It should honestly just be football. Football should just pull out. The NCAA can stay for all the other sports because

that's really what it boils down to is you're treating football like every other sport. It's not even comparable. I love college basketball. I eat up college basketball. They're not comparable, like in terms of money makers. So football is driving everything here. That's why you see the realignment. So just separate football from everything else. It's not the same and they shouldn't be trying. Yeah. I'm like you guys like college basketball for me, man. I used to be able to watch a big Monday. Like I used to be able to, I'm a little older than you guys, but when like Georgetown used to play Syracuse or Kansas used to play Oklahoma. Those were games that it didn't matter about March Madness or it was just, it was a great scene. It was a great atmosphere. It was

just a great game. Like we were talking about earlier with football and I'm not saying those games still don't exist, but man, I used to know players that played all over the country. I knew their names. I could tell you their strengths and weaknesses just by being a fan. I don't know anybody hardly anymore in college basketball. Like they're not there long enough. They're there for like a semester and they're gone. And so I think that sport has really been struggling lately and to your point, college football generates I think 85% of the revenue compared to 15% for college basketball, which is just mind boggling. Good thing. Yeah. So give me some names. Who do you think would make a good college football commissioner? Because I think like Oliver Luck would probably

make a pretty good one, right? Yeah. I mean, the name that jumps out to me initially is two guys. Greg Sankey is the most powerful man right now and probably did the best job. He's the commissioner of the SEC probably did the best job of leadership through the global pandemic. He would be the first name that would probably surface, that would be a likely candidate. The next would be Jim Delaney, who was at the Big Ten and retired. You know, just to see about his health and how he's feeling and what he's interested in doing, but he's a very powerful assertive personality and a guy that at the very least should be a consultant that you want to talk to. And then an outlier to me would be Gene Smith, the athletic director at Ohio State, who has been around and done a lot of things. He

went to Notre Dame. He's been all over the country in different leadership roles. He would definitely be a name that I think would pop up. So what does Notre Dame do? Notre Dame should honestly just be the only team that stays in the NCAA. Then they get to claim NCAA championships moving forward. You guys aren't big Notre Dame guys, huh? Not so much. I like making fun of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is great when they're both the cathedral and the team. Yeah, especially the cathedral. But when they're relevant enough to be disappointing, that's when you lock them up. That's when it's the best. Yeah, I'm in the camp of like Notre Dame is it's always better when they're in the conversation. I love traditional powerhouse

being in the conversation. I don't want them to win at all because it is fun watching the disappointment. But I do want them to be good. Yeah, I'll say this though, because I'm like you guys, sometimes I get annoyed because Notre Dame seems to get the advantage or gets a lot of hype and when they don't necessarily deserve it. But Brian Kelly in the last couple years, it doesn't feel just a little different. Like when Notre Dame takes the field right now, it started for me when they went to Athens, like I would say was three years ago. And I'm thinking, okay, Notre Dame, now we're going to see what's up. And they battled their asses off on the road at Georgia against a good Georgia team. And it looked athletic. I mean, they looked really

good in that game. And that's what it just felt like. Because I did the Miami Notre Dame game about four years ago. And it was a bloodbath. I mean, they got blown out down at Miami. But the last two or three years, I don't know, I just feel like he's recruiting at a different level. And I think they're just, they found their niche on how to recruit. We don't need to try to be Alabama or Ohio State. We're going to recruit tight ends where we're going to recruit, like Wisconsin, we're going to get good linemen. We're going to get good running backs and a smart quarterback. And we can win by doing that. I don't know. I'm kind of high on Notre Dame these last couple of years. Yeah, they've been fantastic. The problem that Notre Dame runs into, and it's not

really fair to Brian Kelly, because we think of him as like, Oh, like the way I'm able to get over the top Notre Dame is compared to Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson. And those three teams are on a completely different stratosphere. So like Notre Dame's been fantastic. They've had great seasons. They've had great football teams. They just are missing those one. I actually think that Notre Dame just missing that one, like super dynamic five star quarterback. They can recruit that guy and like a Trevor Lawrence or a Tua, that will take them over the top because the rest of the roster is kind of there. That's fair. That's fair. I thought Ian Book was solid. I mean, he was, he was, he made the most out of what he had. He was kind of a winner, kind of a gym rat type

again. But what you're talking about is another, you're talking about a guy that could be the first pick over on the draft. I mean, that's an elite guy. And you're right. They've not had that for a long time. Speaking of like roster construction, Texas in Oklahoma, obviously, we just talked about realignment going to the SEC. How long do you think it will take them to like get up to par with the rest of the SEC in terms of line play? Because that's always, to me, the big difference when you go from that, make that jump to the SEC where they got, you know, eight guys who can all, you know, run crazy forties and are 300 pounds and get after the quarterback and all that stuff. So how long do you think it's going to take for them to get

to that level roster wise? Number one, I totally agree. I think defensive line plays is the difference in the elite SEC teams and the consistency of those teams. I think Oklahoma's made strides. You know, I think Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley, they're always going to recruit offense. They're always going to be able to score. And I don't think that'll change by going into the SEC. They're going to have to go to a different level as far as that defensive line and being able to get instead of one or two, you're going to have to find five or six guys that are difference makers. I think I'd be surprised if they don't hit the ground running. That's an impressive brand to me. And they got great leadership. Texas is a wild card, man. I mean, they are kind of the Dallas Cowboys

of college football with the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know. You guys tell me, you guys know this world better than me. If all the NFL teams were for sale, are the Cowboys the most expensive? Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah. When was the last, when was the last time they mattered on the field? Like when was the last time? I mean, you guys, I don't even know if you were born the last time they mattered. It's probably back to the mid 90s. It's been a long, long time since Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith, and Mike Waterburn. And yet they are still the Dallas Cowboys. Texas feels the same way to me. Like Texas has not really been Texas since Mac Brown, maybe back in 09, when they were in the national championship. They've had some decent teams since then, but

it's a pretty good run between, you know, when they were relevant to now. And yet their brand is still as big a deal as it's ever been. And, and now you have Sark that gets thrown into it. Sark left Nick Saban, and he's one of the hottest play callers in the country. And he's going to take that Nick Saban blueprint along with a little bit of Pete Carroll mixed into it and take it into Austin. We can predict, we can throw it against the wall. What we think he's going to do. I think he's going to do well, but no one's been able to win in Texas like for a long time. So I think it'll take them obviously a much longer time. But I got confidence in Sark that he's going to be able to get them going. I just don't know how long that will take. Are they up and

running by the time they go into the SEC? Are they going to have to try to grow once they get into that confidence? That's what I think is going to be the key because yeah, like Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, they both seemed like great hires at the time. Both of those guys, they both had proven track records, not only of being a great college coach, but also the recruiting aspect that goes into it. And then for whatever reason, maybe it's the power struggles behind the scenes in Austin, that they weren't fully able to master all that. Some of the off the field stuff, it wasn't able to work out. So I'm with you. I feel like if Sark doesn't get it going before they get into the SEC, they're not going to be able to immediately

capitalize on pulling some of those great recruits out just by being like, hey, we're Texas. We're in the SEC. Come play for us. I talked to a guy one time at Texas and he said, you know, Jerry Jones is the owner of the Cowboys. He said the Texas Longhorns have like nine Jerry Jones. And when you're winning, it's probably not a better place to be a winning head coach than to deal with the underbelly of Texas. But when you start to lose, it can get ugly. And it can get ugly in a hurry. And those people that were inviting you to those cocktail parties are now talking behind your back. And so there's a lot of potential toxic relationships that can go on if everything, you're not checking every box. Sark knew that before he went. He talked with

them when he went into his interview and he addressed all of those things. So I don't know how you handle that. I don't know how you control that. But that's what's pretty much eaten the head coach alive. I mean, I remember Red McCombs when Charlie Strong got done with his opening press conference said, yeah, I don't think we made a good call here. It's like he hadn't even recruited one player. Red McCombs says like Charlie Strong, you know what, I thought he would be a great coordinator. Yeah, right. And Tom Herman was supposed to be the perfect tire. That was the guy, the story and everything. Yeah, I know. I mean, he was, he was the, if he wasn't going to Texas, he was going to USC. I mean, he was, he was the hottest name

there was. And you could see what that, what it did to him. So it's not as easy as, I mean, you would think like, you guys been to Austin, I mean, you see their facilities, you see that campus, you see that city, it's like the best city, one of the best in America, most beautiful facilities, the high school football in that state, legendary. I mean, it's all, it's all like you would think an autopilot. And yet you get down there. And you're just wondering like, okay, how come Mac Brown wasn't able to keep it going? And yeah, how come Charlie Strong, who was like the man at Louisville and did great things, he had no chance. And Tom Herman, who was this campus hotshot young up and coming head coach, he had no chance either. So it must be more to it than

just recruiting and the city and the facilities. So hopefully, hopefully Sartre can get it going. I mean, just to add to the point, you can, you can learn everything about the politics of coaching at Texas when Chaka Smart basketball was a slam dunk hire and he just left for Marquette, which is, you know, deemed as a downgrade, but it's like he, he couldn't, you know, juggle all the things that go into being a head coach at Texas. One thing I'll add to this, just as like a little bit of a caveat, they're, they're not as passionate about sports. I don't know if they have others, you know how Michigan, they have great fans, but like compared to Madison or state college or Columbus or Iowa, it's almost like, you know, we went to the game, but we're, you know, we're

running companies and we're doing other things. We got other things going on besides football. Our, our lives, you know, are, are bigger than if we went on a Saturday. Well, in Columbus and Madison and state college, their, their lives that next week are predicated upon what happened last Saturday. In Michigan, they got more things going on. It seems like that's what Texas feels like when you go to Austin, like they'll show up and if the team's winning and it's a fun thing to do, they'll go to the game, but like you go to A&M, holy cow. Texas A&M, it's, it's a religion, right? The only thing. Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know, I don't know if the passion and the, and the support is, is in Austin, the way it is in some of these other places. I think it is, but it would

need to get back to a level where like towards the end of the Mac Brown era, or I guess right before he started to tail off, like late 2000s, I was, I was living in Austin for, I think nine years. And when they, when the team was good, it was very much a Longhorn town, like the town. I totally agree. It would shut down, but the second they start getting to that like 500 level, you're right. There's a million other things to do in that town. Yeah. And you totally lose the focus on it. And that's your point. Yeah. You're not saying there's not a passion. We need to beat a Vince Young and you got Col McCoy and you ranked third in the country or first in the country and there's big plays and big action and it's a fun thing to do. Yeah. Absolutely. What I'm talking

about is when it's not that, you know, like, like, you gotta, you know, if Texas A&M, they got Johnny Manziel, yeah, it's off the charts. But when Johnny Manziel leaves, they're coming back that next year ready to roll. You know what I mean? Like there's no, there's no dips at college station. And, and Austin, you got to, you got to sell them on, Hey, we're a top 10 team. And then they're gonna, then they're gonna come and be crazy. Yeah. But you wish it would be more of a proactive kind of crowd. Going to get back to Kirk Herbst Street in a second. But before we do, I want to talk to you guys about our great friends over at 3G. We love 3G. I've got 3G in my apartment right now. I love taking a little 3G, put a little bit of the oil under the tongue before you fall asleep,

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Kirk Herbst Street, 20-year-old at Columbus, Ohio. What is your first NIL deal that you sign? So, whether it be a restaurant or a car dealership, and I'm talking back then, not now, but back then, what was the place that you would have been like, I want to get 200 bucks to, and there's no Twitter, there's no Instagram. Maybe do a commercial. Yeah, man. I came from very little money. So, I was driving a 1978 Toyota Celica when I went to school there and when I finished school there. So, I would have been, by the senior year starting and the captain of the team, I would have been looking for a car deal. Like, I would have been trying to get it. Why not shoot for the moon, right? But other than that, I would have been looking for

any kind of commercial that I could have done. If I would have gotten $200 back in 1992, I would have been out of my mind fired up about $200. So, yeah. But I don't know, other than a car, probably a good pizza. I love pizza. I'd be looking for some free pizza. If I had free pizza in a car, you'd never hear a word from me. That is like a college kid's dream. Yeah. Like, hey, I'm Herbie. Welcome to my dispensary. That would be a good one, too. That might be a more modern day one. Now that things are loosened up a little bit. So, I was reading a little bit of the book. It's called Out of the Pocket. You should check it out, Kirk Herbstree with Gene Wojachowski. And, well, I'll be honest. I read the back of the book. And then I opened it up at random and I

read one of the pages. But I saw a name on there that I want to talk to you about a little bit. Lee Corso, your good friend. You two have been inseparable for the last. It feels like forever that you guys have been on TV together. And one thing that I thought Lee always did a great job. And I don't know if we'd be talking to Kirk Herbstree right now if it wasn't for Lee Corso. Because when they brought you on ESPN, you were the very serious guy. You had, you know, for lack of a better description, like you took yourself seriously as like a football guy, like you were going to break down film. And nobody really knew the personal side of you. We just knew you as, oh, this is Captain America from Ohio State. And then you'd get teamed up with Lee Corso.

And he kind of like pokes a little hole in that, like by making little jabs here and there or joking around with you. And he actually got America to see your personality. Whereas before your personality was just football. And I'm curious if you remember when you first sat down with Lee, the second you kind of felt comfortable around him, and he knew that you could kind of, you were going to be able to show more of your own personality because of what he brought out of you. And that's a great observation. And it's dead on. I didn't look at myself. I didn't take myself ever too seriously. But it was more of, I thought I was hired to be an analyst. You got to go back. This is 1996. And there weren't a lot of studio shows on TV. And they hired me, I thought, to

break down film and be a football analyst. And I remember one game, we had to get ready for a bowl show. And we only had like an hour and a half to get ready, we're going to do like 35 bowl games. And I'm me and I had Felica digging in, and I'm going over every game, and I'm going over all these notes. And I'm like out of breath, like, here we go, here we go. And we do Michigan and Arkansas. And I talk about it in the book. And I go into maybe a minute long on Michigan, the offensive coordinator, they're going to do this. And Arkansas plays four down linemen, they're going to play inverted safeties and try to stop the running game, Michigan, all this football stuff. And Lee looks at me when I get done, he's like, are you done? And I go,

yeah, yeah. And he goes, to me, this is Michigan and Arkansas. It's pickup trucks against the Cadillacs. I'm going with the pickup trucks. Perfect. And I'm like, damn, are you serious? But it was moments like that that happened, it wasn't like one thing, it would just happen year after year, week after week, he would just kind of smack me without smacking me live on TV. And I would just be like, I think it's just over time, just like, okay, I get this, you know, like, I can have some fun, I can have a little bit of personality, not be him, can never be him, like you guys are in this world of entertainment, I mean, you guys get you can't be each other, you just got to be you. But all of a sudden,

I realized I was allowed to have fun and and and and be if I had a thought that might be against the norm, it's okay to say it. And so I think it just happened naturally over time, but you're right, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have the career that I had, if I didn't sit next to Lee Corso. It's like if somebody like Kenny Smith, if you talk to Kenny Kenny, I bet when they talked to him, when he first became an analyst, he got done in the NBA, he thought they were hiring him to be an analyst, because he's kind of a serious XO guy. Then they sat in next to Charles. And it's like Charles is saying stuff that's just off the wall, right? And you got to react to it. And so Kenny all of a sudden started to kind of have some fun and be a different guy.

And I think he and I, I've never met Kenny Smith, but when I watch him, I can really relate to what his role is and how he goes through it. And thank God for Kenny and for me, we got a chance to sit next to some of the greatest entertainers in sports television history. So I'm a data and go by that I'm not grateful for that. Because yeah, I'd still be sitting there breaking down football and being boring, which to me is not is not the way to go if you want a long career in those. I think that's fine. But it's also it's great to see somebody reacting in real time to somebody like Lee Corsair or Charles Barkley. And you get to relate to that person as they're kind of going through the same emotions that you would be going to watching Lee Corsair say

something like Cadillac versus pickup trucks. And you get to show off a little bit. So yeah, I think it's been it's been a great combination seeing you guys over the years. Yes, absolutely. I appreciate it, man. And you know, when I first started, I was terrified. I was, you know, if you look around the room at ESPN, this way back in the 90s, everybody, even on TV today, everyone won Heismans, they won Super Bowls. They they're known for their playing days. They're look at Trey, Tony Romo, Chris Collins worth. I mean, you could name name all the players that are on there. No one knew. I mean, Big Cat maybe knew me coming out of the Big 10. But like people other than the Big 10 region, they didn't know who I was. And even in the people in the

Big 10, I was a solid player. I wasn't a superstar. And usually you have to be a superstar to get a role on a desk. I'm kind of an anomaly. I was a solid player. If you read the book, I got a crazy story on where I started in the program and kind of my road through it and how I finished. But that's not the recipe typically that lands you on TV. And instead of being embarrassed about that, man, I just hit it. I hit it directly in the middle and just decided to be a grinder, you know, like I'm just going to be a guy that when they might not know my name, they might not know what I'm doing, but they're going to appreciate at least my knowledge of the sport and how much I love the sport. And that's literally when I look in the mirror today after 26 years, that's still

kind of how I envision myself as a guy that's trying to make it or guys trying to prove that he deserves a chance to be on the show because I didn't win a Heisman. You know, I wasn't an American and I'm just like a dude to play the game. People should go and look up your highlight tapes because it also is a great time capsule for what college football used to look like because I think I watched it, I don't know, a few years ago, but I don't think you throw the ball until like the seventh or eighth highlight and you're the quarterback because you're running the option and you're running all over everyone. But that's what it was like. It was great. It was great to like go back and be like, oh, this is kind of fun. It's different. That in shoulder pads.

Yes. When you see my era, we wore big shoulder pads and those girdle pads that would stick out, you know, real high and big side pads. It's just such a different era. It's so crazy to think like if you try to explain to someone like Nebraska in the 90s and like they had Heisman quarterbacks and won national championships and the guys didn't really throw like they didn't have to throw that much, but they were incredible athletes and dynamic players. Absolutely. Just a throwback. So I had a question about the book. Obviously you talk a lot about your relationship with your father and your parents going through a divorce kind of affecting you as a young child. I had a question about your job as a father and your like juggling of a job that takes you away on a lot of

weekends. And it's actually, I'm kind of asking for myself because I have two young children, but like there's a lot of people who listen to this show who are parents and how you were able to juggle those two things where it's like, I think everyone gets to a point where they're like, Hey, listen, I want to be around for my kids, but also there's an importance to your profession and your job and your career that you take seriously as well. Yeah, I didn't realize you had two young kids and as your career grows and more and more opportunities are presented to you, the more you'll have to make some tough decisions on being at home and being with them because you're going to find as they get older and they're going to want to play and they're going to do stuff,

it's going to get tougher and tougher for you to pull yourself out of that environment. For me, I was very fortunate to be able to work for four months out of the year. And so for eight months out of the year, I was like, Mr. Mom, you know, I mean, I'm home nonstop seven days a week, and I took full advantage of being home. Like I was very involved as their dad. And in the book, I talk about my dad. Once my parents divorced, my world was turned upside down. I went to like eight schools in nine years and my dad was in and out of my life and I didn't have anger. I don't know if your parents were still together or not, but in my case, I didn't have anger or resentment. A lot of kids go through that. I had more like an emptiness. Like I wish I wanted more of my dad.

I wish he was around. I wish he would listen when I talked with him. And so what I found was I wanted to try to fill the gaps when I had kids. And so, man, I'm just present. You know, I try my best. I'm by far not his perfect dad. But I know one thing for sure is I've been involved in their lives. Like I, I'm not my wife doesn't need to tell me, Hey, don't forget, you know, Jake has a test on Thursday or, Hey, don't forget to take them over to practice. Like I already know all that stuff because I'm, I'm living in the front row of their lives and I wanted to be able to do that. So when I had to leave, I didn't have like, man, I wish I would have done more with them kind of feel. I took advantage of the time that I had while I was home and it made me feel okay.

That when I left, I left and I did my work and I grinded. And then when I came back, they were always the priority. As long as I always in my own mind made my kids the priority, and I still had time to do my work, then like they'd go to bed and then I would, I would crank, you know, for four or five hours, or they'd go to school and I'd crank, you know, but if they were home, I never wanted them to feel like there's dad again doing work. I just didn't want to be that way. And so that's, I guess that would be the advice that I have is when you're, when you're, when you're there, be present and just make them the priority. And then you'll have, you'll have no resentment. Just remember this, man, the days are long and the years are fast. And it's so

true when you have young kids. Yeah. I saw a quote too that summed up my life. My kids are two, two and three months, but it's my favorite, my two favorite times in life are being with my kids and being without my kids. And it's so true because it's like, like on a Saturday, I'm like, wow, there's a lot. And then the minute they go to sleep, I'm like, kind of want to wake them up and play with it. You know, I'm like, you're at two and three months. Yeah. Okay. And you travel a lot for your job. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do, we'll do another one of these in five years. And I promise you, you're going to be like, yeah, I've been doing more and more on virtual lately. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, yes, definitely. No, I already feel the pull. I know. And it's, yeah, it's admirable, though, what you've been able to do because I think it's like being a parent is very, very difficult. So being able to juggle both is, is a credit to you. It helps to have the private jet that ESPN pays for that you get to fly. They don't pay, they pay if game day is at one spot and the game on another spot. Yeah. They'll do that, but anything else is. I love that you constantly have to like remind people that you don't, ESPN didn't actually buy you an airplane in your contract. No, no, no, no. There's some other rumors that have been put out there in the past I've heard about.

I know, man. I know. I'm like, what, I think when, when, not, not Sean, Dilfer, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, what are you talking about? Dilfer, one of that PJ. Listen, if you don't ask for it, you're not going to get it. Yeah. So I guess. I wish they flew me around privately. The only time they ever do that, since I've been there is game days in Eugene, Oregon, and I'm calling a game in Austin. They'll make sure I get from point A to point B, but getting to Eugene and getting home from Austin, that's on you. And those days are crazy. Whenever you guys do it, it kind of blows my mind where you're like, Hey, I just saw him at game day in Ann Arbor. Now they're calling the 330 kickoff in

Miami. What the hell is going on? Yeah. It's wild. I mean, it's, it's a buddy of mine, Darren Brown. He works at wheels up and he's an executive there. And so he understands that world. But I mean, on those kind of weeks, it's game day. All right, good to see you from Ann Arbor. And it's like, soon as the camera goes off, immediately security, like we go to a car, we get to a local FBO, I mean, 15, 20 minutes later, you're in the air, you're flying and then you land and you got a group there waiting and they just get you as fast as they can to, to the stadium. So you're not late. Luckily, I haven't been late to a game yet, but I've been close a couple of times. Has anybody suggested that you do, I don't know, like two games in a day after doing game day or

like flying you out to Hawaii for the nightcap? Oh, I'd love that. That would be a lot of fun. If Hawaii ever gets up to the top 25, I may have to do that. Yes. All right. So I had one last question. This has been great. Everyone go get the book. It's called Out of the Pocket with Kirk Herb Street. It's football fatherhood and college game day Saturdays. Some great stories in there. My last question is give us a dark horse. Give us a dark horse team that could crash the party this year because it is, there are the usual suspects that we all know, but give us the team that you maybe have, have seen in your research, like, Hey, if things go well here, they could be, you know, we could be talking about them in the playoff. All right. So if you're a group of five

team, as we've learned, it's next to impossible to get up into the top four. So how do you get into the top four? Remember UCF was trying to do it for years, going back to the BCS, Boise State, all those teams. I think Cincinnati made huge strides a year ago. And the fact that they went to the sugar bowl and played a powerhouse like Georgia and really outplayed them, they just didn't, they got beat at the end in a close game. But if you looked, I think in the AP, there's seven. What do you need to do when you're a group of five? You need non-conference games to show the committee that you can play with the big boys. They have two. They play at Indiana, was the top 15 opponent. Indiana's for real with Tom Allen and at Notre Dame. Cincinnati plays at

Indiana and at Notre Dame, if by chance with a veteran team, virtually everybody back from a year ago, they win those two games and they run the American. Cincinnati becomes the wild card team that could kind of get up there into the top four and take one of the behemoths out. So that would be the one team that I think is like a group of five that they could get up into the top four. Iowa State might be another one, but they're in a power five. Yeah. I mean, Luke Fickle's done an incredible job. It's such bullshit that Ohio State has so many guys. They could just be like, all right, like each team has like their dream higher. And you see how it goes sometimes at Jim Harbaugh. If Ryan Day decided tomorrow to go to the NFL,

they just have Luke Fickle stepping that role, Ohio guy through and through, and they wouldn't miss a beat. It's not fair. Here's what's an interesting wild card to that. If Ryan Day, I can't imagine Ryan Day leaving unless the Patriots job opens when Bill Belichick, he's a New Hampshire guy, you know, there might be something there. But if Jim Harbaugh were to ever just say, you know what, mutual agreement, I'm going to go back to the NFL or whatever he's going to do. And that job were to open up for whatever reason. And Luke Fickle kept being the hot name. Luke Fickle would have an interesting dilemma potentially. Really? Well, much like Bolshevik. Yeah, Bolshevik. Yeah. I mean, Bolshevik was an Ohio State guy. He went to Miami and

never thought he'd go to Michigan and he turned Michigan into Michigan. Luke Fickle is there's no more of an Ohio State guy than Luke Fickle. And if that job opens up though, man, whoa, that might be the only way that Michigan could get up to par with Ohio State. That's my point. Yeah. What better way for Michigan quit, quit trying to figure this thing out. Just go get one of theirs, bring him in. That's what they did with Bol. Yeah. And they did it when it worked. Yeah. It wouldn't shock me. Now, I don't know if he would take it, but it wouldn't shock me if that job ever opened up. If he would be the guy they looked to. That'd be awesome. I would love it. People would hate it in Michigan until they started playing. Yeah. But also it'd be like a weird,

sneaky, low key win for Ohio State being like the only way you can beat us is to get our guy. To become us. Yes. Yeah. All I know is, man, if you can make Cincinnati relevant to the Top 10 program, you can coach football. Okay. So hypothetically, you got Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia, Ohio State. They all lose a game. Cincinnati is undefeated. They're in. They're going to be in. They're in. I think they, I don't know who the, I don't know who would be out. It would depend on the scenario of what you just said. But Cincinnati goes undefeated with the schedule that they have. There's no way with all the noise that, you know, it's not fair. There's no way they'll keep Cincinnati as a pre-season

top seven and they play Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana. I don't believe it. And they play Indiana. Texas A&M will have like three losses and they'll be like, well, they're, they're, they're four. Like there's no way you're saying it right now, but there's no way now. No way. Now I'm telling you, if Cincinnati is undefeated, they're going to be in the playoff. I don't, I guess the one loss SEC team, one loss. No, no, yeah, I don't know. SEC team, SEC team will be in, but I'm, I'm saying that you're not going to put, so like if it's Alabama and it's Georgia and it's Oklahoma and it's Ohio State, there's no way Alabama and Georgia would go in over an undefeated

Cincinnati. Okay. I'll bet you snake dinner. If it's Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Ohio State, they all have one loss. Yeah. They're all going in. Who are, who are you taking out? Again, it would depend on who lost and when they lost. Right. I guess I get that. But the, but the college, just those names and the size of those schools, I, I will believe it when I see it. Yeah. Okay. Well, this is fun. This is fun. This is fun. Yeah. This is fun. I like it. Look at us. We're going to revisit this in December. So here's the best and bear has to come too. So bear has to be there at the dinner, but the bet is simple. It's that they're Cincinnati and undefeated Cincinnati will not go to the playoff over a one loss,

power five team. So if there's a two loss, power five team, it's no void. But if it's, we're basically saying a one loss power five team will get in over Cincinnati under you're saying that. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm, you're, you're saying a group of power five, one loss team will be in over a undefeated Cincinnati. Yes. Yes. Okay. I feel great about that. I do love this. I love that we're already having this debate about college. That's why it makes college football great. No, I seriously, I do it all the time where I'll hop on Twitter and I'll just start arguing about the rankings and people will be like, you're triggered. I'm like, no, this is what I like to do. Like I would, I would, I like to go to like, it's basically

going to a virtual bar and just arguing resumes of people. It is so much fun. Now here's what we got to remember. We need Luke Fickle to beat Notre Dame. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. If that happens, that'll be by September, we'll basically know that then at that point, they're just trying to avoid being upset. Yeah. Well, style points. But then it also gets into blind resume season where maybe at the end of the season, maybe Indiana is not as for real as we think that they are. SMU is not playing well. That's fair. They have to go two over times to beat them, that kind of stuff. Temple, Temple keeps it close in the fourth quarter. Who knows? Oh, I love this. Let's revisit this periodically throughout the season. Yeah. Maybe Jack Cohen's out for a week when they play Notre

Dame. Yes. Like all this, all this stuff can add up, which I'm already excited about it. Yes. I do have one last, last question. Just percentage wise, looking in the crystal ball, three years in the future, let's just say Brian Kelly is out at Notre Dame and a phone rings down in Jacksonville and Urban Meyer picks up the other end and they're like, hey, Urban, we want you back in college football. What percentage do you think he accepts that job? I would say, and I'm banking it on if the NFL is not going the way he hoped. Can we say, if it's going well, he's not going to take a call from anybody. So to make this relevant, it's just, it's just, it's not going great. It's 500-ish. I would say 60, 60 to 70%. Okay.

I tend to agree with that. I feel like, I feel like Urban Meyer has just been circling Notre Dame for the last 20 years. I will tell you this, it's a little bit of a misconception that his dream job was Notre Dame. I mean, he grew up in Ashtabula, Ohio. He grew up around Woody Hayes in Ohio State. I think when Notre Dame was struggling, he was an assistant there years ago and people assumed, and I think he might have made a comment about Notre Dame, how much he respects that program. But truthfully, Ohio State was always his like, I can retire now, I coached Ohio State kind of job, but I think there's something still draws him towards college football. He may hit a home run in the NFL and this all might be a move point, but if it doesn't go well in the NFL and that

Notre Dame job ever opened up down the road, I could see him taking that call. Yep. It would be fun. It's always fun to have Urban Meyer in the mix. College coaches like, like you just said, Luke Fickle going to Ohio State or Michigan would be incredible. Kirk, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Love having you on. We will definitely have you on a couple, maybe after we see what happens with Cincinnati and Notre Dame. We got to do a show leading into that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. We'll just plan out the menu for the entire show. What are you going to order? Okay. That sounds good. Yeah. I want Bear on that. Bear has to be involved. Bear and I will hop in on this. Yes. Yes. But appreciate your time and

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He yawns exactly the same. I can't, yeah. Hank and I yawn exactly the same. So what's your problem? No problem. Can we get you to yawn? I can't force a yawn. It's either going to happen or it might happen. Might not. I know you guys love it. It really, it stops us in our tracks. By the way, Hank, I got to show you something real quick. Can you see me right now? Check this out. The hotel I'm staying at. Look at this. Oh yeah. They got the pumps. That's going to be a nice bra. That's going to be a nice bra for you. Dude, I've just been souping it up. I took an extra shower yesterday just because the soup was so good. That's a great decision. You got the body wash

in the pump bottle too? Yes. It's all three of them huge pump bottles. That's a great fire. All right. So Mount Rushmore of water we're going to do. Mount Rushmore of water. Who is who is picking first? Hank, why don't you guys want to decide the order? Let's do numbers. All right. Okay. Let's do numbers. Okay. I'm going to do 69. 17. Oh, no. All of my deadpacks. All right. Five. Billy. 86. 50. Hear the frustration in Billy's voice. I stole 69. Mount Rushmore of waters. Or if you're from Philly, Wooders.

What is that 80? That's an 80. I think we went right. All right. Billy, yeah. Also decide the order, Billy. I'd like to let it be known for the record that it looks like Jake is podcasting Hurt right now doing this Mount Rushmore a little bit injured. He's got a heating pad on his neck. Nice stiff neck this weekend. What? No, what did you do? Too much sex? Down in Boca Raton, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, of course. With Junior. Yep. Yeah, Junior Soprano over here. Careful, Jake. Oh, do we? You know, Jake, you don't go down there enough. Do we know it? Do we know it? It's home. So yeah, I bet it is. You're going back to, it's where you came from. It's true. Jesus Christ. I can't see Jake right now. Is he, is he following

or not? Yes, I am. I understand what's going on. He gets it. Okay, okay, okay. All right. So, Billy and Jake, you guys decide the order. We'll go first. Hank, are you on the same team as your father? Yeah, it's me, me, my dad and Bubba. So, dank, dank Bubba. Okay, so we'll go Big Cat, Jilly, uh, no, what? Jilly, dank Big Cat. And then PFT? Yeah. I'm so confused. Why don't you just go, why don't you just go, why don't you just go in order here? So we'll go around the room. So go, you guys, Mr. Lockwood, PFT, then me. All right, sounds good. Shout out to QB Niles for your discussion, by the way. It's actually an order here. Only, only Billy could make the order confusing. We're going to start off with crushed ice. Always a good thing to chew on when you're done with water,

but you can't get the waiter's attention. You can just chew on some ice and really save some time there. Okay, crushed ice. I, you know, I've been a big fan of recently like the little pebble ice. Yeah, just anything small, little that you can chew on. It's nice. Okay, okay, good pick. My dad's been overthinking this to the max. I cannot wait for this, by the way. I just want to just want to set the scene a little bit. All right, we're going to, our first pick, we're going to go with the middle of the night water. Okay, that's a good one, thirsty. Just can't, nothing hits better than that. Big thirsty glass of water, middle of the night. Yeah, I had one of those last night, actually. It is great. I think Hank came up with an invention, right, where you just have,

it's like one of those backpacks, the camel backs. But it's built into the bed. It's built into a hotel bed. So when you're, you know, hung over and you wake up in the morning, boom, you get that injection straight from the wall. It's like a soup tube, but for water. My first one, I'm going to go, you know what, it's similar to what Jilly took, but I think it's different enough that it should count. Sonic ice. Sonic ice. It's a different type of ice altogether. It's the soft ice, really soft that you can chew on. Is it flavored or just the ice? No, just the ice. I used to sell these ice makers back in the day. They use evaporative, it's a whole process. What did you sell? Well, it was all for, yeah, I sold literally everything. But yeah, it's the best ice in the

world. When you say Sonic ice to somebody, people know instantly what you're talking about. It's the goat ice. Wait, is it from like Sonic the restaurant? Sonic the restaurant. It's not, you can get it other places. It's called, it's the pellet ice, but it's, it's the specific type of soft ice that you can really, really get to chewing on. All right. That's a good pick. I am now overthinking it myself because I cannot believe on the fourth pick I have my one one still available, but it's hose water on a summer day. Wow. Directly from the hose. It's a good pick. I had that. What's the wow? What's the wow Hank? A lot of, a lot of hose talk the last couple days about this Mount Rush. Yeah. I mean, my dad, I mean, that's, that's, you agree, Mr. Locker. That's

the best. Like you're playing wiffle ball or something. Just get right up to the hose. There's nothing better. I thought it might still be available on the, on coming back around. No chance. Big cats going for it. Henry said me, I would have taken it one one. I would have taken it one one. All right. My second pick is going to be drinking the glass of water you have when you get home after a long night of drinking and you're like, this is the one that's going to save me the hangover. Yeah. Like, okay. Like I'm like, you think you've done something responsible? Like you're almost drinking a, a, a genius medical cure. It's not going to, but in the moment you're like, good job. Pat yourself on the back. You had one glass of water after you drink all day.

I think it is a hangover cure. I think when I get a hungover, I'm like, oh, I didn't chug a bottle of water before I went to bed. Yes. Yes. And it really does. Yeah. You like, or sometimes you'll even like get up out of bed. Like you lay down and then you get up out of bed. You're like, I got to have that glass of water because it's the only thing that's going to keep me alive. But it really, it doesn't ultimately matter if you drink enough, but it's still a great thing to have. I drink nine shots of tequila right before I went to bed. Oh, shit. I forgot to drink. That's why I'm hungover is because I forgot to have my 12 ounce deer park before I hit the hay. Mentally, you just need that. In college, we used to beer bong water at the

end of the night. Oh, I used to do that the morning after I'd get up and I would fill up the entire funnel with water and rehire. I would take I'd be like, okay, I'm healthy now. I'm ready to go. My body's good. You just for some reason, it feels like a medical cure. All right. My next pick, I'm surprised this one lasted so long. The ocean. I'm taking the ocean. Yeah, I think you got to pick which one. I don't know. I think just like the ocean in general. But oh, it's all one ocean. Okay, but they're all connected, Jake. Fair. It's like the panji of water. Yeah, just the ocean you got inside that ocean. You got waves. You got all these fish, like 99% of the stuff in the ocean. We haven't even discovered yet. Have you ever done one of those things where you

scroll down and it does like a simulated deep dive into the ocean online? It just keeps going and going and shows you the animals that you see there at different depths. The ocean, it'll fuck you up. The ocean is awesome. It's a great pick. Thank you. Okay, great pick. All right, we're going to come come up with a wait, wait, before you do it, can you just rank your oceans just as a side power ranking oceans number one Pacific? Yeah, number two, I mean, it's the biggest is by far the biggest. And I know people will say it's not the size of the wave. It's the motion the ocean. That's not true. It's not true at all. It's it's all about girth. Right. Number two, I'm right guys. Yep. Number two, I'm going to go with the Atlantic Ocean. Number three,

the Arctic Ocean. Okay, and people sleep on the Arctic Ocean, but you give it like 250 years. That's going to be a tropical paradise. And then number four, I've got the Indian Ocean. We still haven't found that Malaysian plane. Who knows if it's actually there. Yep. All right, good, good ranking in the oceans. All right. I forgot the Antarctic. It's not an ocean. Oh, that's no such thing. Wow. Yeah, this is now getting contentious boys study. They just came out with a study the Antarctic Ocean is actually the biggest coolest ocean ever. Yeah, I heard on Joe Rogan's podcast. All right. Go ahead, Mr. Lockwood. All right, we're going to go with the hot shower. Oh, good choice. Good choice. Good choice. I had it. I had it. Always feels good. Yep.

Turn your day around. Yeah, specifically, I wrote down specifically, which this is, is not like you can't take it in a specific setting here. You get hot shower, but the best hot shower is after like cold rain, you get caught in a cold rain and you get a hot shower after. That's, that's the best. Yeah, like a day on the mountain. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Hot shower. Yeah, when you're like skin is like so cold, you can barely feel it and then you get the hot shower, you get that like stinging sensation. It's the best. Or if you're like a detective that's trying to solve a big case and you just blast the hot shower into your face and you slam your hand against the wall, you just think that's an every single cop movie ever. Yep. Yep. Or if you just, or if you're

best friend, just pulled off a huge heist at the airport. Yeah. And you're like smacking the wall really hard. That's a great hot shower. It is a good one. Yeah. So I don't have very relatable to all of us, I would say. Yeah, the biggest heist of all time. So I don't think this is actually taken, but what about the first glass of water the next morning after a night of drinking? That works. Yeah, that's a good choice. I mean, that's that place. Yeah, sure. Because you're still drunk the night before you had that glass of water. This is what you're saying. Like you're saying, like we like 4am, we pick like middle of the night, you're saying like 7am. Yeah, 7am. That's pretty close, but sure. I think that plays because I had that on my list too. Yeah. Yeah, that works.

That works thirsty when you're actually thirsty. Yeah, it plays Billy. And next, who doesn't love going down the water slide? Is that what they call it now for kids? Going up all those steps. Heading down to Boca. And the reward of going down on the slide. Yes. No, that is that's a great one. I love a good water slide. One of my favorite activities actually is driving past a water park and then just staring at the slides as I'm driving for like three seconds too long to be driving car responsibly, just like turning my neck and be like, oh my god, look at all those water slides. Yeah, the colors. Yes. Okay, good picks guys. Mr. Lockwood. All right, we're going to go with watermelon. Delicious. Good in the summer. Always good. Okay.

Great choice. Great choice. Great choice. All right. Great choice. Great. My next one. Okay, so Hank invited his dad to participate in this Mount Rushmore. I thought that was very nice, touching father's son moment who doesn't like something like that. But Hank also neglected to invite his mother to participate in this Mount Rushmore. Let's be honest, let's call Spada Spada. She's in the control room right now listening to the podcast and listening to Mr. Lockwood and Hank teaming up. And Hank didn't even think to ask her kind of a reverse Drew Brees and Drew Brees's daughter situation. So I asked Mrs. Lockwood if she would like to contribute to my Mount Rushmore, since Hank didn't think that he should. Classic you. So she's going to be on she's going to help

me out a little bit. She gave me a cold shower on a hot day. And I like that or a cold shower after a workout, something in that scenario where you're overheated and hitting that cold shower for a little bit is one of the most refreshing feelings that you can ever have. Okay, so just for the record, so everyone knows I'm still doing my Mount Rushmore by myself. It's the super team era. I just keep going up against everyone. That's fine. I will hold the sanctity of Mount Rushmore season. I'm your champion. I'm honest. I will do it. Okay. What? No, I'm saying I'm your champion of the people. I'm not saying I'm the champion. I'm saying I'm the champion of the people who know that Mount Rushmore is in about super teams. It's just about teamwork sometimes, you know?

Yep. Okay. All right. I like the Russell Westbrook of Mount Rushmore's. I'd like to go with the honest. But yeah, there's no I in Mount Rushmore. All right, here we go. The Monday after a big win, water cooler water after the big after team wins a big game and you're at work and it's like actually something you want to talk about with your coworkers because usually it sucks, but it's like, yeah, did you see the big win? That was fucking awesome. And you like relive the game and you sit there and have your little moment. That's a great moment to have. Okay. How about let's see. I'll go. I'll go lakes. You know, I had oceans and lakes. I'll go lakes. I love lake water. I think lakes are awesome.

I love water. You don't drink the ocean. No, I just clarify. Lakes are okay. Lakes are sneaky dangerous. Sage waves. Yeah, sage waves. Dude, that those will fuck you up. Just rogue waves that appear on like lakes appear in the middle of the night. Yeah, sage waves. So yeah, lakes will be fourth pick. I'm surprised no one's picked any brands. I was thinking about doing well body armor one brand you can pick. Yeah, body armor or liquid death. Right. Oh, liquid death. Right. Sometimes we'll pick liquid death right now. Yeah, I'm not sure. We'll bleep out liquid death right now. Water it water it. Dave and Busters. I'll tell you what the most Mount flush more of all the waters is Evian. Evian's trash. People that say that they can

like tell the difference between waters. Usually I think it's bullshit. Although Jeff Lowe just sat down one time blindfolded and told the difference between five different brands of water. But anyone can pick out Evian because it tastes like motor oil. The Sonny awful. Yeah, he's supposed to dehydrate you. Yeah, that's like sodium in it. That sounds like a Joe Rogan. Yeah. Where did you get that from? Where did it go? It's Atlanta tap water that Coca Cola adds. All right. So a little behind the scenes. We actually did a macro dosing on bottled water and Billy said that exact same thing. No, I didn't say it. We live fact checked it and found out that it was extremely false during the episode. So he just keeps going with it. Now I actually said that. Okay. I'm cool

with it, Billy. Billy to continue to just like spout out facts that are not true. I respect that. You just keep going forward proven wrong. Doesn't matter. Well, usually it's like the core of Billy's statement is true. But then all the details surrounding it are a million percent false. Correct. All right, my last one I'm shocked this made this this actually might be my favorite type of water. The steam room. I love a steam room have a Schvitz sit down with the fellas nice and relaxing. You can also like lie to yourself and say that it like gets all the toxins out of your system. I don't think that it actually does that, but it does help a hangover just kind of makes you feel good. Also the name of a very successful podcast from 2015 to 2015.

Hollywood workout go to the steam sauna and hot tub. Yep. That's boom. That's your workout. Yep. All right. Mr. Lockwood your last pick. All right. Last one. Very surprised. This is still live. We're going to go with rain. Ah, true, true. Cycle of life. Are you really going to for all living things rain? You're going to pick that with what's going on in Louisiana right now. Yep. Well, that's wind. That's wind and rain. That's a hurricane. Actually, I think it's the rain. We wouldn't live. Could be the storm surge could be the ocean. This is just rain from the sky. The more I think about it. True. The ocean is bad there. The whole timing of doing the Mount Rushmore water. Yeah. Might be a little ill advised right now. Oh, I thought about it before.

I thought about it before. I was like, but you know what? We're it's they're different. Okay. They're different. Yeah, it's different. Yes. I mean, we took the ice as a podcast and my thoughts are in Fraser with of course, Louisiana is my favorite people. One of my favorite states in the entire world. Philippines is a fan of water. I'm not going to be a fan of water for a couple days. Speaking of water, one thing you might consider doing if you're in Louisiana, fill up your bathtub with water at the start of it. That way, if there's anything that happens to the water supply, boom, you have a bathtub filled with fresh water. Ready to go. That's a good tip to give people on Monday after it already happened. Yeah. Well, no, Hank's going to drop this pot early.

No, I'm not. Actually, this is actually. How many lives could you save? This is AWL pre-season because I was thinking about it today. I could drop it early, but because Sundays are coming up where it's going to be late, I don't want people to get accustomed. Yeah. You'd rather kill thousands of people. Consider this pre-season. No, you're smart. You've got to condition the people because if you do it early, they're going to. Yeah, you're absolutely right. This will be out of the night. All right, Billy and Jake. All right. Pick up basketball water. You're playing pick up basketball. That's clearly a Jake choice. No, it was actually me. Oh, really? No, but think about it, like everything. Pick up basketball. Yeah, but like it's the one time like you're out of shape. You're

not in basketball shape. You're dying for water like halfway through and you either have like a cold balawa you bring or you go to the fountain and drink cold water and it just hits different. Okay. So it's a water fountain. You didn't have to make it specific to pick up basketball, but I do think that the one type of sports water that hits different is when you pick up that red and white personal thermos of water out of sports practice and you drink out of that. That is a great tasting water. I like to pick, Billy. I don't hate it because I was I had something similar. Yeah. No, it's the only problem that I had have with it because I was actually it wrote down something similar, but the best is when you like when you win a bunch of games in a row,

but then you this is specific to me because once I'm playing pick up basketball and my team wins like three in a row by the fourth game, I want to lose so I can take a break. That's the best water, but that also is a loser mentality. I would bring like eight bottles and people would always mooch off me. Oh, of course. Of course. Come prepared back. Water that's not yours tastes the best. I don't know if you can. I don't know Caribbean blue water. They were doing honorable mentions that water like when you could see the bottom of the ocean. That's pretty fucking sick. Jacuzzi. Jacuzzi. Although I was thinking about it. Have you ever seen how Jacuzzi works? It's just recycled waters. Disgusting. It's half piss. It's so bad. Hot tub. Yeah. I had water

balloons and super soakers like water fight. Yeah. No snow. Snow is a big miss. Yeah. No. Hail. Damn. Hail. Yeah. That's not good water. Snow cones. Water. Yeah. Water ice. Water ice. Water ice. Water ice is good. I was having said your team. Yeah. I thought water dogs was going to. Oh no. Why would I do that? Absolutely not. That's if we didn't mouth flush water would have been my one one pick. Yeah. Hot bath. The old hot bath is a good one too. Yeah. Yeah. Waves. Would waves have counted? I think ocean is probably. Yeah. I get waves in. Yeah. Inside the ocean. Okay. The Antarctic Ocean is an ocean. It's debatable. Southern ocean. There's four. There's four oceans and now it's like Pluto. People are like oh it's

you know the participation trophy generation. I'm gonna throw it up there. Just trying to give it. You're trying to put a medal on the the cold parts of the Pacific Atlantic and Indian Oceans. Mr. Lockwood do we have anything that you that we missed that you had on your list. No those are all we just did in the honorable mentions. The rest of the ones came up. Oh what about water falls. River water. Oh yeah. Don't go chasing them. How'd you do it in pop a shot. Mr. Lockwood 101 couldn't get the record. Whoa. If I had more time I'd get the record. You said he was gonna break the record. You have good form. You're I saw the video that Hank put up. You're bending your knees nicely.

Yeah. I'd get the record. I just don't have enough time right now. I'm trying to get you on. I need you to yawn. I have to see the genetic. Did your father yawn like that as well. I don't know. But Henry is it's identical. I mean there's no no question where it came from. Your poor wife. Thanks for mom. I had to deal with it both of you. My mom did this actually said water of my tears if we miss our train. Yeah I gotta go. Oh. All right. Billy any recap. Thank you Mr. Lockwood. Thank you guys. Good to have you. Yeah. See ya. Any Billy anything to recap. Oh yeah. So like those turf pellets we were talking about when they get that hot and you get turf burn. They actually sometimes burn into your turf burns and get stuck in your body.

Really. This sounds like this sounds like pop rocks and in die. No. So when you skin your knee when the turf's that hot some in the turf gets in the turf burn. Yeah. Sometimes it just stays in there. And you're like skin heels over top of it. Yeah because you like burns in there. So you become like part football field at that point. That's actually awesome. Yeah that is badass. It wasn't there a study that came out. Yeah. You know the study that I'm talking about. Cancer. Where it's like youth soccer goalies that grow up playing on field turf fields that are exposed to that ground up tire material. Yeah. They develop more cancer than other people. Is that true. Yeah. Are you just saying I saw I saw what you saw. Are you just saying yeah. No I saw exactly what

you saw because I don't know something about the rubber. Yeah. That's why I don't wear condoms. God damn it Billy you just make me laugh your fucking voice. All right anything else. The Antarctic Ocean is an ocean debatable. No it's just what they call the cold parts of the other ocean and the sunny was taken off UK shelves for the conspiracy theory that it makes you more thirsty. So there was a little that's the core of the truth and then all the other stuff. Right. But there's also additives to it that people a little sketched out about. OK. So you're talking about a TikTok trend where somebody opens up a Desani and it makes like a hiss sound and they're like here all that. That's the poison leaving the bottle.

That's cancer. Yeah. You hear that sound. That would that's actually cancer. All right. OK. Numbers. By the way Wednesday we have Jerry O'Connell back in studio. Awesome awesome interview. Very excited. What's your prediction for the fight big cat. I think Jake Paul is going to win. I'm now I'm now I've moved past the roadblock you put my brain hang. OK. We'll see. So I'm Jake Paul is going to win. All right. Knock him out. He's going to knock him out. I'll do ninety nine eighty two eight six from Bubba. Sharks don't know camels exist. That's a fact. It was at seventy three. I'm going to take a I'm going to take a camel to the ocean

just blow some fucking shark minds. Love you guys. I'll be coming for your love. I'll be coming for your love. It's part of my take presented by Bristol sports. you