Pardon My Take - Kyle Long In Studio, Week 8 Picks And Preview, Bills Are Back (Sort Of) And Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

The Bills are back, sort of. We talk TNF and if Al MIchaels is ok (00:00:00-00:14:30). Week 8 picks and preview for every game including do the Rams stink? Is Hank back in on the Patriots? Down a wild... name rabbit hole and more. Fantasy Fuccbois (00:14:30-01:35:08). Kyle Long joins us in studio to talk football, o-line play, the time Bill Callahan owned him in combine interviews, adult softball and more (01:35:08-02:20:41). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:20:41-02:47:34).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:02:08 There's enough of our support. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, October 27th, and the bills are back sort of. Yeah, the first half bills were back. Sort of. So it's tough to say because the first half bills were definitely back and Their defense played really well to the point where their offense didn't need to like take the top off in the second half Yeah, they remain tarps off on unlike
Starting point is 00:02:33 Bitsy on like it's either or us or us But it seemed like they were back at this this wind felt a lot better than the last couple games Yeah, you can say that for your bills fan probably some things that you'd like to do different in the second half on offense, but you didn't need to. And the fact is the bucks only got close because that last drive, they got extended like three times on four times. It was, yeah, the bucks, the bucks, if you look at that box, where you're like, who, the bucks were in this game, they were not, they covered the spread, which is a tragedy.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Also shout out the bills punter. Yeah. What a night from him. Beast. I mean, that last one, he almost put on the one yard line. You should have put it on the one. Yeah. So, uh, not the best game. Yeah, it was football. It was football.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And it was nice to see Josh running around out there. Yeah, it was good to see him. So, he heard his shoulder, heard his right shoulder. And then they reported that he was giving low fives, not high fives, which is a very medical. That's a medical term. It is. Yeah. It was supinated, not pronated at the end of it, which my medical degree tells me.
Starting point is 00:03:33 He just fucked up a shoulder a little bit. He's got a mini by now. Yeah, mini by. Mini by, um, yeah, the bills. They look like they maybe fixed a little bit of what was ailing them. You know, it did help the V2VA. It was out. You know what the Vita Vaya was out. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:03:46 They stopped the bleeding. They stopped the bleeding. They got to win. Maybe this is what the bills are. Maybe the bills are just gonna end up being like a 11 win team and they'll look, Hank, you make a noise at that? I heard it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Maybe the bills are gonna be a 11 win team and they'll have at least two more times this season where they look like the worst team in football. Yeah, I think the bills right now are, they're above average, they're above average team but I don't think that they're the world beaters. How quickly do you recover from a torn ACL if you're a Trudevius White?
Starting point is 00:04:22 It needs to get on that Aaron Rodgers shit. Is Matt Milano, no chance coming back? I don't think he broke his legs, so maybe I don't know. It's better than a spring. You know what? You know what? Better than a spring. That's right. A spring leg is the worst thing you can get. I'm gonna say Matt Milano will be back for the playoffs and I've done zero research into it. Okay, and yeah, the the the the bills have the bangles next which will be a great game That's something I football next week. That'll be good. That'll be a great game.
Starting point is 00:04:46 As for the box, they think. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they have no real running game to speak of their defense minus Vita Vaya. Also bad. Uh, just bad. Baker Mayfield looks better than most thought he would this year. That's the best thing I can also.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I have no idea what Todd Bolz is doing as a coach. Well zero idea. He's being taught. He's like more taught. He's playing a chess match against Todd Bowles. Yeah. As a coach, the fake fuel goal or fuel goal or just run out the clock play they did at the end of the half was insane. You had the holder telling the the kicker like, no we're not gonna run this play so that tells me either the kicker went out there and was like fuck it I know we're supposed to just run the clock out but I can make this and the the holder was telling him no or it was a look to see if they were going to fake it and the the kicker really wanted to fake it and the holder was like no we're not snapping this ball.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I thought my Amazon stream was glitching because it was like a perfect loop of of crowd noise in every almost standing still. Yeah. It's like what's going on here? It was a very weird into the first half. Just Todd Bulls continues to to maze me as a head coach. He doesn't amaze me at all. He's just not good. No, that's how it he amazes me. Todd Bulls he's boring and not good, which is the worst combination. But he does find creative ways to be bad. With that was at the end of
Starting point is 00:06:03 the half was a very creative way to be bad. With that was at the end of the house, it was a very creative way to be bad. And the craziest thing about this game is that the Bucks could have easily won on the last play, which is crazy. Credit to Baker Mayfield, he threw a perfect Hail Mary. That might, you know what? I think that is the number one incompletion of the season so far.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That was a great Hail Mary that he threw. That was an insane Hail Mary. God, when didn't turn around, Bucks fans are saying saying Mike Evans had illegal contact at the 10-year-art line Yeah, they're never gonna call that what um Al Michaels ain't make any mistakes tonight He did have a slight one when he was like and it looks like the Bucks are gonna punt But he was actually retroactively correct because they came out in the field goal formation And then like we described took the delay game and punted But he said looks like they're gonna punt and Kirkersch was like, I think that might be a feel goal out.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. I mean, I'll probably really enjoy going to Buffalo because there's zero chance that somebody sneaks to vegetable in his plate. Yeah. That's true. Absolutely. They don't allow those in the city walls. Celery.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yes. Celery. So get this off my garnish. Jake, Jake, did you hear any, any out Michaels mistakes? I didn't hear any mistakes, no. He does seem bored with bad football, though. I was gonna say the energy definitely wasn't out with the Al Michaels I'm used to growing up.
Starting point is 00:07:16 All right, I'm gonna look up real quick. I'm gonna look up Al Michaels on Twitter and just play the first video. Mm-hmm. Here it is. Yeah, there's no energy. Well, that seems like a very like map play. It was bigger mayfield only almost getting sacked three times than getting a 12 yard run. Okay, 12 yard run. That doesn't you know in the fourth quarter yard run or no third quarter, but I mean still I would say we've had this debate on the stream. Is that a is that a nice little chunk that he got? I would say that's like okay. That's a that's an exciting play. Hail Mary to end the game. All right, let's listen to it. We're gonna give an honest assessment. Mayfield dancing all around.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Throwing as far as you can throw it. Jump all coming. Crazy stuff. Not this time. Crazy stuff, not this time. Crazy stuff. Not gonna speak up this time. I don't think you can say crazy stuff in a more boring voice. Also, it was not this time mean.
Starting point is 00:08:23 It didn't happen this time. Compared to other times it's happened. Not this time mean as it didn't happen this time. Right. Compared to other times it's happened. Right. Not this time. Yeah. I love Al Michaels. He is part of many memories. But if I last week I tried to defend him this week I think I'm going to say let's just maybe hope we can like shoot him up with some testosterone and have one last ride here some coke
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah, no, I mean like herb street herb street is a great friend to Lee Corso on game day right to old people He loves Lee Corso. They seem to have a genuinely touching relationship correct He needs to take that same energy to Al Michaels and bring cocaine into the booth to get Algo in during games Yeah for, Kirk. Okay, well, so take that private jet on one of those Thursday flights you take down to Columbia and then come back real quick to see how drop a bag on a desk and let America have fun. It's just I love Al and I don't want to see him go out this way. He's I think. What? I mean, he's a a legend and I'd be surprised if he got back on the playoff game the
Starting point is 00:09:32 NBC second playoff game remember he did the oh Toreco no NBC had two wildcard playoff games and they put out Michaels with Tony Dungee for the charges. Jack, we can't have that. Planned off game. It was like the greatest talk about that. We gotta get Jack Collins worth out there. Hey, Jason Garrett. Yeah. Somebody's with some energy. It would be, it would be bad for this nation if it was out Michaels and Tony Dungee calling a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Well, it happened last year. Can he like Jonathan Henderson just get slapped in the face before the game and just be like, whoa, let's go. Old school out. That'd be nice. It'd be an improvement. Do you think a situation where like no one just wants
Starting point is 00:10:12 to say, hey, because he is a legend. He's a legend. It's that you, no one wants to be the guy that has that conversation about it. And honestly, I think that if it's good football, our Michaels can still get the job done. And they paid him so much money. Not this time.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You know what? I'm actually going to defend our Michael. I am too. As a football fan, we owe it to Al to just suck it up. And that Al can take. Think of all the joy that he's brought us. Okay. I'm going to suck it up.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm going to acknowledge that maybe he doesn't have the right energy that he turns exciting plays into downers sometimes. But as a football fan, this is what I've trained for. I will absorb all of Al Michaels negative energy and I will not complain about it. Here I want up your PFT Thursday night football. We always get excited for it because it is football. It's Thursday night. It's kind of the start of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Kick off the weekend. Hank don't say anything. It's kind of the start of the weekend. Kick off the weekend, Hank. Don't say anything. It usually's a bad game. Maybe, out of Michael's, this is the perfect guy for Thursday night football. Yeah. Cause like, you don't want to peek too early. No. You want to kind of ease your way into the weekend.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, no, that's a good spend zone. Yeah, I like that. But I think we should just all agree to just take this shit. I'm going to take it. Yeah, I'm going to take it. NFL fans, they're just turning their backs on take this shit. I'm gonna take it. Yeah, I'm gonna take it. NFL fans, they're just turning their backs on him. No, they're not turning their backs. So many great memories with him.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh, Malcolm Butler in reception. Now we hate this guy. No, no, no, they're not turning their backs. Why would you use a Patriot? They're just saying because it's one of the more iconic plays and calls by him. The NBC game. No, that was a compliment.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I don't think anyone's turning their back on him I think it's just simply they're pointing out the fact that it might be Time there are some people that are clowning him I'm not one of you dumb for me lately. That's facts. Hey, I'm not gonna clown out It's like Al Michaels and Bill Belichick kind of at the same stage in their careers right now Oh, Belich had signed a three-year deal and Bill Belichick's coming off a win Yeah, I mean Al Michaels signed a massive, the Amazon unrelated to any of this get excited because bears play the panthers in two weeks on Thursday night football.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Can't wait. How might you snore? I love the TNF on prime jingle. Oh, I don't like high school. Yeah. Jake, I noticed that I don't say you remember that that that that Patriots Seahawks game was an NBC game. Yeah. Do you remember what all
Starting point is 00:12:27 Superboles like the next one the most the last like 10 to 12 years. Rams Rams Patriots CBS Broncos Panthers Fox who is honest? Who is honest? Well, it's been the same crew dealers cardinals. I think that was NBC is a discussed. It's on a jk's. I would guess Alan Chris, but no wrong madden. Yeah, I think it was madden's last full game Yeah, but I know the 283 was Fox Seahawks Broncos That was Fox. I think you just said that did I yeah, well, I said panthers Broncos Oh, pantas broncos of CBS super role 50. That was the year that they had the gold 50 at every 50 yard line Oh, I
Starting point is 00:13:10 Your I think yes, pns in the mix in 2027. I think they entered the cycle. Okay, but yeah, I think I I didn't realize I could do that until now Pretty sad to see how it's brocos see how it's broncos is Fox Okay, I don't know what to do with this information. Yeah, he just knows all Jake is a massive fan of networks huge we gotta we gotta get you a jacket like the One with all the NFL logos which is close booths. Yeah, I'm waiting I love the booths now he loves booths true and and trucks my new office power rank him Jake booths now. He loves booths and trucks. It's my new office. Power rank them, Jake. Booth's trucks.
Starting point is 00:13:47 How was your booth compared to NBC's booth? It's great. Don't have a call button. The only thing that I don't have. We got improvements. We can always get better. I would say PFT, nothing in the booth can happen without the truck.
Starting point is 00:14:04 The truck comes first. But with the truck everybody there without trucker. Yeah, what's that with the truck ever show up if there was no booth You could you could technically broadcast the game with no broadcasters What oh, that's true. What's like pretty sure it's W.W. You didn't carry the king Aller have like a hell scare. They just went silent the rest of the broadcasts Yeah, it's quite they did that I think unintentionally at some NFL game in the last 10 years where there was like a hell scared they just went silent the rest of the broadcasts. They did that I think unintentionally at some NFL game in the last 10 years where there was like a quarter with no announcers. Yeah, we're like the sound of the.
Starting point is 00:14:32 The announcers got very scared because they realized how much football still kicks without their voice. Yeah, we don't need you. No, no, we shouldn't go back to that. We shouldn't go back to that. No, no, no, no. Get rid of their jobs. Okay, let's get into the week eight
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Starting point is 00:16:08 I just feel like every year that I've played fantasy football, which by the way, I gave up on my fantasy teams in record time this year. It's so liberating. I think it was week five. I looked at all three of my rosters and I was like, no, just not going to do it. Just not going to do anymore. I already stink. And now I don't care about it. I get the notifications. I ignore them. That might make me the asshole in the fantasy league, but it's so nice and I have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Can I agree with you? And I actually had an idea the other day because I have two fantasy leagues with people. I've been friends with for a very, very long time. There needs to be a service, like a divorce attorney, where I don't have to tell them I'm going to stop playing fantasy, but someone, some third party can intervene and be like, listen, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:16:53 So he's not playing fantasy anymore. Or like some, some excuse. So it's the awkward, like that's the only thing that's keeping me in there is like, I just, I don't, I, these are my friends and I understand friendship and all that stuff, but I do not care at all about fantasy. So much so that one of my friends texted me during week 70s, like I'm kicking your ass right now, I was like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude?
Starting point is 00:17:15 And then I looked at my team, I had forgotten to start like half the team. You know what it was for me? I'm in like a suicide eliminator pool and I just forgot to do it one week. And when I forgot to do that, then I was like, okay, I'm just, I'm not gonna open up the Yahoo app anymore. But now that you say it out loud, we can learn from ourselves,
Starting point is 00:17:31 we can emit mistakes, we can grow. I think I'm gonna have to at least try. Because I feel, I do feel like a bad friend right now. I know, I know I'm not doing it. So I'd like to immediately retract that. I fucked up, I took, who'd I take? I'm not going for a thrombotler, they're not bad. They're not bad. immediately retract that I fucked up. I took who would I take? I'm echo for a cron Butler. They're not bad. They're not bad. They're not Ryan go.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I was 165 five pounds. 262. In high school. They're not bad. I'm echo. Oco4 is not bad. I can't offer everyone admitted my mistake. I'm going to fix it. I'm going to try to play it. But I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doing it. Oh, I'm echo. Oco4 and Chrome. No, they were very good. Yeah. Not a dime back.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I'm gonna survive. I'm gonna pull that. That consumes most of my brain. We gotta get you one-kept. We gotta get you one-kept. We're going back on the show. We should. I mean, when the reporter said to him, like, we have a report here that you make, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:21 $2 million in the state is losing this and he just goes, I make a hell of a lot more than that. It's so great. Not a hell of a lot more than that. It's so great. Not a time back. It's okay. But not a time back. So to my original point, I feel like every year that I played fantasy football, I would always just ignore the buy weeks and just not think about that.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And it was always week eight. I always had players that were on buy weeks. Week eight. No, no buys. But no buys this week. No buys. So let's get into it. We will be in the new gambling cave watching all the games. I think the ideas on Sunday night because the Bears play Sunday night
Starting point is 00:18:49 We're gonna watch that in here while we do the podcast so you get live reactions that way But let's start with the best games Noon slate one o'clock slate people get mad when I say noon I think the best game is Jaguar Steelers in the noon slate. Let's talk about Jaguar Steelers. Jaguars about to go on their buy. Steelers off a big win. Mike Tomman is a home dog. We keep hammering it.
Starting point is 00:19:13 18, 5 and 3 against the spread. Maybe even in Alan Robinson Revenge game. I guess so. He had a revenge game last week. I guess so. I only know the Jaguars are going for five straight right now, which is the Jags haven't had a lot of good winning streaks over the course that are franchise.
Starting point is 00:19:29 This would be nice for them to get their spraying down footballs in Jacksonville. Oh, it's getting ready for the water. Yeah. So they're having a guy with a hose out on the practice field. Er, Meyer had some hose out there too, but this is different. They're spraying it down and then they're simulating the rain. The Steelers, however, you mentioned Mike Tomlin, easiest coach to bet on.
Starting point is 00:19:46 As a leather dog. Feels like a hammer Mike Tomlin game. Also, this is maybe the biggest thing going into this game. It's a terrible towel statement game. Because Trevor Lawrence opened his mouth and referred to the terrible towel as those little yellow towels. Now, he was saying it, he was like giving them respect
Starting point is 00:20:06 and it got quoted. Pittsburgh took it personal. This is a personal game for the towel. Double renegade. It might be a double renegade game, but he called out the towels. The, the Jack was kind of on the Steelers. Well, we remember play 2017.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, Blake. Yeah, yeah, went in there and put up like 44. It was incredible. So I lean Steelers here because of the Tom and Home Dog. I also have a stat. George Pickens, really good receiver, starting to kind of blossom into, he's one of our favorite receivers to watch.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Deontay Johnson being back is huge for George Pickens. And I actually think maybe Matt Canada's offense won't be as bad when Deontay Johnson on the field. This is a stat that I've, I don't even know really what it means, it's, it, but it sounds really impressive. So they have a stat yards per route run. So essentially just how many, how many routes you're running and how many yards you got, pretty easy to understand.
Starting point is 00:21:00 With Deontay Johnson on the field, George Pickens is averaging 4.0 yards per route run, which is actually like, it would be the second in the NFL only behind Tyree Kill without he's averaging 2.7. So George Pickens, Deontay Johnson matters for George Pickens and we saw it in the second half against the Rams. Yeah, that's interesting. I know that Tyree Kill had that once that,
Starting point is 00:21:23 where Kaderius Tony had the craziest one. We're like every time they threw in the ball, the chiefs lost a point and we won. That was a week one. Yeah, I would like to see those stats for our general lives, just like Per step. Like Per, Per mile walked how many, how many desserts do I have? Yeah. Like what's the ratio on that? Farts Per, Per step walked.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. Also, I agree with you. I think that it matters. what's the ratio on that? Farts per step walked. Yeah. Also, one point two. I agree with you. I think that it matters not just like Deonte, Deonte is obviously like a very good guy to have complementing George Pickens, but just in general, having two good options
Starting point is 00:21:56 to help the other guy. And they do complement each other well. And I think the Steelers are finally realizing that Jalen Warren is really fucking good. I also was watching some Jalen Warren highlights and he people are saying he might be one of the best running backs in terms of Blitz pickup and blocking. So Jalen Warren give Jalen Warren the ball more. Maybe make Naji Harris like a junior tight end. I don't know what his what his war is. His wins above Naji. His won. Yeah. What's his one's his won? Because when he touches the ball, it's hard to believe
Starting point is 00:22:26 that he is like NFL running back caliber speed. Yeah, he just looks like he's running through snow. And for the Jaguars, like you said, going for five straight, Trevor Lawrence looks awesome. Their defense looks better than people thought it was gonna be this year. Calvin Ridley, is he getting iced out? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Do you think he's getting iced out? That was weird. Did he got no targets on Thursday night football? And he was open sometimes, and he just, Trevor Lawrence wasn't even looking at him. Do we have an ice out? Maybe Dog House alert. That's more of a doghouse ice out.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. Yeah, running back is a fumble, and then you get into Dog House. You get into guys. But you can get iced out as a wide receiver. You can. Also fun stuff. If I were to just ask you off the top of your head, what do you think the Steelers record is
Starting point is 00:23:08 in their last 15 games? Pretty good. They're 11 and 11 and four. Yeah, because they finished the season, like, remember the whole talk at the first heart part of the season was this Mike Tom, I'm gonna go under 500 and they ended up 98. Yes, the Steelers have been just good.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They've been winning weird games. They've been winning them in strange ways. But they just win. They figure out a way. Can you pick it? Might be Mr. Fourth quarter. I like that. Yes. Uh, Jake, you're nerd nugget. Good timing we got because Pittsburgh leads the NFL with three wins this season when trailing after the third quarter. The Steelers have also won 14 games since 2020 trailing after the third quarter. That's also most of the league. Mr. Fourth quarter. He's Mr. Fourth quarter. I like that.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's Mr. Fourth quarter. Also Mike Tomlin make Glowrilla this week. Yeah. I'm big fan, huge Glowrilla fan. I know Hank, you're a big fan too, right? Huge. Huge. Hank, you look very corporate today.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Thank you. Is it the vest? No, Hank looks like he got off the golf course today. I wish I would go off. I did not. This is the perfect vest weather today. It is. It is beautiful vest weather.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And there's not a lot of time for vest weather. Like it's not to be cold, vest weather's over. No, but you can go vest under the coat. Yeah, but I coat off vest in the office. I saw my opportunity, I took it. Yeah, you, you, that's, that's it right there. You, you just grabbed it. Vest weather. Yeah. What is it? Uh,
Starting point is 00:24:26 luck is up. No. I lost you. What happens when opportunity preparation preparation? He was prepared for that vest. Yeah. I'm woefully under prepared for that. I don't think I own a single vest. I have two and I never wear them. So I saw my opportunity. I got to I had a vest phase and then on my opportunity. I got to, I had a vest phase and then when like the entire wall street accounting bros took over a vest, I ditched it. But I might get back in a vest. I might be a vest guy this winter. It's fun, especially Puffy Vest.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I don't really like Hank's look right now. He looks like trash, but a Puffy Vest. Oh, sorry, I forgot you were there. A Puffy Vest looks nice. I like the ones that have the like ribs on them. Yeah, what I'm saying? The seams that go down the side. Yeah, the puffy vest.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, that's good. That's good. They make you look jacked up too. Who looks great in a vest is Vrable. Vrable is a Vrable is a big time vest guy. Okay, next game, Rams at Cowboys. I have a theory that I would like to throw out there. The Rams stink.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I don't know if they stink. Okay, that's my theory. And I'll explain my theory. Will they ever good? I think they will. No, they were never good, but here's what happened. The Rams are mid. They're decidedly mid.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I think they might stink and here's what happened. We every year, there's like one or two teams that have a great week one and it sticks in our head for a while, maybe too long. The Rams beat the Seahawks week one. They were like, maybe six point underdogs. Because remember going in the season, the Rams were, I think they're over under for wins was five and a half or something like that. They were not supposed to be good. They beat the Seahawks. Everyone's like, Oh, shit, they might be good. Dupuca,
Starting point is 00:25:57 look at this. They're, they're good. Since then, they have, there are two wins after the Seahawks week one win, was against the Colts in overtime. Colts not that good, they're frisky, not that good. And the Cardinals in week six, Cardinals stink. Their losses are Niners, Bengals, Eagle, Steelers. So the question I ask is, are the Cowboys closer to the Niners, Bengals, Eagle, Steelers,
Starting point is 00:26:23 or the Colts Cardinals, I think it's the former not the latter. Yeah, I'm not saying that they stink though. I'd say that they're probably going to lose this game. I'm going to bet on them to lose this game, especially because McVease got he's he had the baby. The baby's here. He can't score a touchdown. I had coach can't score a touchdown. Matt Stafford does have a homecoming game kind of, right? And Dallas, yeah, I'm going to forget how in the. You went to high school with Clayton Kershaw. So I don't think that the rims stink though. I think that they're perfectly mid team.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The Cowboys are capable of playing perfectly mid teams very well. It's just a working theory that they might stink because it is. It's just a working theory that they might stink because it is. You know how we do do that where it's like week one, bad or good. I mean, when the Cardinals killed the Titans week one, whatever it was a few years ago, Titans, I think, ended up being okay. It's just week one always has one of those weird things. That was the Taylor Luangame, right? Yeah, I didn't want to bring that up. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's a very important part of NFL history. Yes. Yeah, I do think that the Rams are perfectly
Starting point is 00:27:21 average. I think the Cowboys are in above average team. And I am a believer in the triplets though. That's what we're calling Matt Stafford, Puka Nakuwa. Dupu Ka. And Kupa Cup. Kupa Cup. Kupa Cup. Kupa Cup would be cool. Kupa Cup is a good Puka and Kupa.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That Puka, that's an event in Mario Kart. Kupa and Puka. I like that. That sounds like that could also be like a Disney movie with two, you know, a fat animal and a small animal, like Pomona Tumba. Yeah. What is that?
Starting point is 00:27:49 Tumonin Pimp. Tumonin Pumbu. Tumonin Pumbu. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. Thanks Hank. Stack correct.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You mentioned it. Put this in the tickler. Nakuwa Matata. Ooh, I like that. Yeah. That will be on Boomers. You mentioned that the Cowboys can absolutely beat a mid or bad team. Dak versus bad teams. He is 27 13 and two against the spreadverse teams under 500 and 17
Starting point is 00:28:17 and 26 against the spreadverse teams above 500. Yeah. I also think that McCarthy looks like an opportunity coach against McVeigh. Like if I if I beat this guy, I'll finally get that respect. Yeah. You know, so I, I do like the Cowboys this week and the Rams. I actually think that having a baby during a week for a coach is probably way more impactful than if a player has a baby during the week and they miss a practice. Yes. Like, I think that he's probably not getting a lot of sleep.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He's not spending as much time just grinding film. Good point. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. probably not getting a lot of sleep. He's not spending as much time just grinding film. Good point. We'll see. We'll see. Points, Jake, your nerd nugget. Cowboys rookie kicker Brandon Aubrey is one of six kickers in NFL history to begin a career with at least 16 straight field goal makes and is closing it on the NFL record of the game. There's a Jakes. He's 16 of 16 on field goals and 12 of 13 on extra points. Can we bet on him to miss a kick? We should be able to because that was the
Starting point is 00:29:06 jinxiest jinx of all time. Credit to the Cowboys. Well, you said it out loud. Yeah, but they wrote it down. A jinx. I don't think of written jinx in a media playbook versus a spoken jinx. The percentage of announcer jinxes is probably so long
Starting point is 00:29:19 because they say it every time. You always remember. No, you always remember. Jake, you're bringing stats into an equation that absolutely does not need. We just need to go with our balls on this one. That's any time an announcer says that a kicker's good. Right. He's the worst.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You got to shake his balls. All announcers, live matter. This is bullshit. Didn't the Rams had Marr, right? Yeah. Yeah. They had the former kicker of the kind of always just miss the revenge game that missed nine fuel goals or whatever. They just caught them and they cut them this week. That's, that's tough. I wanted to see a Marr revenge game that missed nine fuel goals or whatever last column and they cut them this week. That's that's tough. I wanted to see a
Starting point is 00:29:47 Marvel revenge game. Yeah. Okay, next up Vikings of Packers. I only have one set for this game and I have a feel. The stat is how many touchdowns, Russian touchdowns, the Vikings have this year. Zero. Zero is correct. That's pretty crazy. It is. Zero Russian touchdowns. That's pretty crazy. It is zero rushing touchdowns. My feel is I think the Packers think I enjoy and loves not good, but the Viking just beat the Niners on Monday night football in front of the world. They're going to play at Lambo against a very stinky Packers team. You have to bet the Packers. I don't know about that because the Vikings the Vikings seem like they're kind of
Starting point is 00:30:27 Going into form right now. Why would you say that? Against a really good team that was kind of banged up and injured. Yeah, but I'm big kick one I I saw money and I football I need to and I and I went I went I was like oh my god the Vikings are What a one-point favorite against the Packers and Lambo? Like, this is a hammer time on the Vikings. It's like, nope, Dan, you do this to yourself all the time. You watched one awesome game, and you're like, the Vikings are awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm gonna hot tip, okay. And by hot tip, I mean, I was walking on the halls earlier and just heard someone in the room. I don't know who it was, and I didn't listen to the full conversation, but as I walked by, I overheard someone saying, 78% of the money's on the Vikings. Yeah. Don't know if that's true. I believe it, but it's a hot tip. It does sound like it would be true. It's a hold your nose, pick. The Packers stink. They do stink. And I think I'm going to ride
Starting point is 00:31:17 with Creed though, because before the last game, so we talked about Kirk Cousins, Love and Creed, the Texas Rangers, Love and Creed. I didn't realize this at the time. Kirk Cousins, Loving Creed, the Texas Rangers, Loving Creed. I didn't realize this at the time. Kirk Cousins has replaced the team prayer, which means a lot to Kirk Cousins, with everybody listening to Creed in the locker room. That's nice. So for the last two games, they've been on their Creed shit. Oh, I might wait to find out
Starting point is 00:31:37 how much Scott Stapp is being played in that locker room before I make any sort of... I don't think he's some source. But I am, right now I'm currently squares fucking, I'm gonna ride with the bike. Yeah, I just, it's a total feel because I really do think the package are not good, but it Any given Sunday Jake Packers quarterback Jordan love leads the NFL in second half passing yards per game
Starting point is 00:31:58 It's tied for number one in the league and second half passing touchdowns per game and number two in the league and second half Offense touchdowns this season. And number two in the league and second half offense touchdowns this season. Yeah, because they're behind. Mr. Second half, Mr. Second half. Yeah, yeah. When you play from behind, Mr. Second half. Mr. Second half. Okay. All right, next up, next game up,
Starting point is 00:32:18 Patriots and Dolphins. All right. Patriots and Dolphins. Tyreek is going to play Yeah, it was just announced that was the weirdest thing ever one two is like hope we get Tyreek back soon And everyone's like, huh? What? Did you say it does feel like a get right game for Miami, doesn't it? Okay, I agree but I feel like the and we talk about this with Kyle long coming up great interview with him I do think that dolphins if there is ever a look ahead I feel like the, and we talk about this with Kyle Long coming up, great interview with him.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I do think the dolphins, if there is ever a look ahead, it is the chiefs next week. And maybe it's not like look ahead, they come out flat, but maybe look ahead, we pack it in as quickly as we know this game is good and the backdoor is wide open. It's also a super look ahead, because like, that's a lot of travel they have to do. Yeah, that's a lot of travel, yeah to do. Yeah, that's a lot of travel
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah, yeah, there's he game. There's nothing worse than having like a really long trip ahead of you That's a super I hate that's that's hanging over there That's what I'm at my lowest do you think they packed all their shit get ready to go over to jerk? Wait, do we know their plans? We don't know yet. We got we got to find only betting it on that because Whoever goes later. Yes, fatal. We that's what out. We're only betting it on that because whoever goes later, yes, fatal. That's what we've learned. That's a Germany's a long ways away.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But I feel like it, they probably already have their shit pack going to this game. If they're leaving on Monday, yeah, you don't have time to, you know, go home. That's a big suitcase. You got to bring over there if you're going on Monday. But I do like, I like Miami in this game and maybe it's just me reacting to the Patriots looking decent against the bills. Mac Jones and thinking super bowl. So oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:33:49 wait, you hear this one? Congrats to Hank and Mac Jones for winning the week seven super bowl. Oh, yeah, congrats. I had heard that. It was big. You guys, you loved doing that to everyone. You needed the last 20 years. You needed one big time. The bill is the fucking bills. We'd be, you know, the chiefs chiefs, that's super bowl. Oh, oh, I like you bet on the bills last week, hang you did. Yeah, I did. I lost.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I'm doing bad in my picks. No longer hung over though. No, oh, okay. Yeah, I'm just a little foggy. Yeah, we got to have some day beers on Friday. Yeah, we got Halloween coming up. We're going to Madison. This is a week I'm giving myself little foggy. Yeah, we gotta have some daybears on Friday. Yeah, we gotta Halloween coming up, we're gonna Madison. This is a week, I'm giving myself till next, like Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Okay, till the get right spot. Yeah. That's your get right spot, Tuesday. Back in the gym, Tuesday. Everyone, Tweed Hank, next Tuesday, be like, get right spot. Welcome back. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yes. You feel confident? No. Okay. What's the weather forecast, do we know? Hot. It's gonna be hot in Miami. Oh, okay. What's the weather forecast? Do we know? Hot. It's gonna be hot in Miami.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I'm sure. Yeah, two sidelines. It's not the heat. It's the humidity. That's true. Yeah, they always say that. I just, I don't know. Rain.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Oh, potential. That would maybe probably help the Patriots. That helps the Pats, yeah. John got a little bit. Matt Jones is O-5 against spread in his career versus dolphins. They'll never be to a. You've never beaten to a? No. Matt Jones is O5 against spread in his career versus dolphins. You have never beat two of? You've never beaten two of?
Starting point is 00:35:07 No. Damn. It's surprising. That's tough. I think that's a good sign though, because you know, Bell Chuck is like, we gotta beat two of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You gotta beat two of. So are you gonna bet on? Money line, yes. Oh. Wow. Have to. Okay. I like, I like.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like we've talked about it. I don't feel good going to the game But then before the game I'm like why won't we just win this game? Oh you really are you really are taking team welcome to the welcome That's exactly that's every single bears game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is yeah, this is a great opportunity to play spoiler I it really is yeah, you if we beat the bills and dolphins. I will have been you're bad accurate about and There's that and the jets too and guess who's next jets. No commies. Oh nice. That'll be good. Yeah, good luck spoiling that one. Hmm. Jake, your nerd nugget. Well, first off,
Starting point is 00:35:55 Tyree Kill, when he faced the media today regarding his hip, he said, I just wanted some attention, man, because my mom wouldn't talk to me. So I needed some attention from somebody. Okay, I'll expect that. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Miami has had a player record multiple sacked in four straight games by four different players. We fought Buffalo, Andrew Van Ginkgo,
Starting point is 00:36:12 week five against the Giants, Zach Sealer, week six against the Panthers, Christian Wilkins, week seven until the LLFIA Bradley Chubb. So they're all eating. You remember Bradley Chubb? Yeah, I feel like we're good. No, last week we stopped. We stopped talking about old Chubb for a while, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, he's good, he is good. He's good. So with Tyree Kill, it's funny, that's like a dog that pretends to have an injury. To get, I had a dog that for about two years would only have a hip injury when it was at home with my parents. And then I took it to college a couple times. It was able to walk everywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Go up and down steps, you can go back home where there was another dog. Be like, oh no, my hip hurts, come scratch me. Yeah, that's what Tyra killed some attention. Yeah. Okay. So Tyra kids hills playing. Next up, Eagles of commanders. The little boy off. I they're little boy was never a that was never anything said by anybody that game. Oh, it's little you small you little small as what was said little you small small little you small Yeah, I think little boy was set all yeah, cuz you're saying big boy little boy. I was saying I was saying we were doing big Boy plays on you. Yeah, yeah, but like that was a little boy play
Starting point is 00:37:16 Correct. There was definitely that thrown. Yeah, well, it's it's a lot of boys. This is this is bigger than a little boy game. This is a Perm game. Oh Yes, yeah, Max and I agreed to bet a perm. Oh, beautiful. Oh, god about that. So one of us is gonna have to go to sport clips and get our hair permed up. I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So Max, what are we gonna do? Because you can't do it straight up, right? Because the Eagles are what, six and a half point favorites? Should we just do the spread? Oh, I mean, Max, that would suck for you. Like if you win by three, you won the game and you gotta get a perm. Yeah, no, that's true.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I think you almost got him now. What about three? What about three, what about three even? Deal, fine. Okay, that's great. And he just said, you should have said straight up. You did, you should have just said straight up. So Max is going to buy a car soon. And he's like, I suck at negotiating. Can somebody help me out? I
Starting point is 00:38:10 told him I'd negotiate for him because I love doing that. Max, I just, I just rent circles around. That was so bad. I'm not a good negotiator. Jesus Christ. How are you doing, Max? Good. This game's must win for the Eagles. No, I'm in general. How are you doing? It's fine. I it's fine. Okay fine. The would be legitimately happy for. I don't think so. I do. Well, it's some, no, some, not you, hey, you're fucking hate him.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Right now, you're right. If the Eagles won the Super Bowl tomorrow, people would be like, okay, good for Max, he deserves one. But you're forgetting that to get to a Super Bowl, they'll have to endure like three months of Max being obnoxious. That's true. And then the one's not getting obnoxious. So you need a team, I also,
Starting point is 00:39:02 you need a team to just start their, the first game being, yeah So you need a team, I also do. You need a team to just start the first game being. Yeah, that's why. You need a team to start their first game in the Super Bowl. I guess, I don't know. Yeah, I'm a different man. I'm a different man right now. I think you've developed a big fan base
Starting point is 00:39:18 of people that really enjoy seeing this content. So it's like that market now exists. Yeah. You created the market. No, the sadness market is booming. It's also a market that really dislikes it. Yeah, but you know what, those guys? That's jealousy.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And they also just completely over exaggerate everything. It's the guys who are like, Max is on the show for two hours. Like, this is, it's crazy. That's just the, that's just the, anyone that's on the show that's not named big header PFT market. Correct. And we've all, everyone's had their That's just the, that's just the anyone that's on the show that's not named Big Head or PFT market. Correct. Yeah. And we've all, we've all.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Everyone's had their fair share of the eye are there. And Max also, the fact that Philly keeps losing in these big moments is the reason why you're in these prominent positions on the show. So it's not like the entire show is just Max all the time. He can't help it, but his teams are losers. So we have to feature. Yeah. You've been in big moments.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And Max, I had my brain kind of switched a couple of years ago when I realized like people are going to complain about everything and it's actually a compliment because it's what we do with our sports teams. Where it's like you root for your sports team and you're like fire that guy, that guy sucks. That's no different than people who are like, I listen to every PMT, I hate Max Like well, yeah, you're gonna find something to complain about and like it's okay Like you can complain about everything you can play about anything like go go go do it means you care Yeah, we want people to care. Yeah, yeah, fuck it How's your has your mom said anything to you?
Starting point is 00:40:42 My mom was my mom was good How's your has your mom said anything to you? My mom was my mom was good My dad thought it was really funny my mom was also my mom is also a huge Philly's fan like That's her number one team. She said that It was nice to hear how sad I was after the game because it made her feel feel better about So you're providing a useful service to. Yeah. Yeah. Philly's fair. Yeah. That was I feel like your parents had to love the movie clips. I love like dick hours right now. I don't know. Those were just those anyone can watch that and find humor in them. I haven't watched
Starting point is 00:41:14 any any any last thing max any word on people throwing out the idea that you might have early onset Fleming. Yeah. So people were saying this online that Max's hand motions, the fist, the screaming. When he was tending his fingers. Yeah, tending his fingers. I forgot to count. That was my favorite. Just like people are saying Max, like, hey Max, are you looking in your closet and being like,
Starting point is 00:41:42 oh, that's a good shirt. Want you on that? Yeah, that's really the biggest worry for me is. You have early onset flimming. The biggest worry for me with early onset flimming is I do like to chew on water bottles. Which is the biggest red flag of anything. Well, Frank is, we love Frank.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Frank is the absolute best. So it wouldn't be the worst if you got full blood, a flesh flimming. Yeah. Yeah. Full blown Fleming. Maybe someday. Maybe someday.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Okay. Yeah. I got a question for you, Big Cat. Yeah. Do you think that the Eagles Commanders series, is that becoming a throwout the record books? It might be. It might be.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Because they do, the Commanders are always way worse than the Eagles except going back to what was it, 2020? Yes. When Doug Peterson pulled all the starters in week 17. They are always worse, but they always play them very, very tough. I feel like this is a throwout directly. I agree with you. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I also think, oh, by the way, sack watch, same how 40 sacks on pace for 90 70 went the other direction. It's insane how many sacks he's taking. Like David Carr, when he was in the league, it was nuts. 76. People were like, will somebody please step in and help him? Sam Howell is on pace to just dust. Yeah, dust them. And it's not even the 17 game schedule because he's on pace for 21 more sacks. Max, last question for you. Are you worried about Jalen Hertz?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Ne. No, they said it's like a pain thing. He's just going to play throat. He's a warrior. He's an absolute, he's an absolute dog. I just, my guy, I think you should be. And why does the human body experience pain, Max? Is it because everything's fine? Yeah, he's fine. He's fine. Okay. Yeah. He's fine. But I will say Kevin Bired game. Yeah. Yeah. Dream team. Yeah. How dream team. Not dream team, but like you love having guys. You're talking about guys. Kevin Bired is a guy.
Starting point is 00:43:29 The, I think the Jalenherz knee is a problem. He's wearing a brace on it. And he also was asked about it and they were like, is it a concern would affect you going 40 said, I hope not. Yeah, it's gonna affect. That was on Sunday and then the next. No, that was his press conference said I hope not yeah
Starting point is 00:43:45 That was after the game on Sunday. Oh Okay, and like going for there like yes, it won't be an it won't be an issue for the fact that we're even talking about it It's kind of an issue. Yeah, but but some guys are built different. He's a dog. Okay, you might be wearing it just in case the stadium collapses on him again Yeah, just just to be sure I just he's drawing a lot of picks Fumbles but he doesn't look like himself. Can we admit that Max? The fact or fiction? The pick in the last game was asked.
Starting point is 00:44:13 The answer to the question was a test. Answer the question. Does Jalen Hertz look like himself? I didn't like how in unison you guys. That was beautiful. It was great. The last game, I, yes, I will say in the Dalphins game, yes, he looked like himself.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I don't care what you say, yes. I don't think he looks like himself. He threw one pick that got tipped and he played it flawless football game after that. Which would rather have. Who would you rather have? Jalen Hertz, this season or Jalen Hertz from last season? Who is better?
Starting point is 00:44:43 In totality last season. Okay, so he doesn't look like himself. But in, it's a week by week leak. Okay, on Sunday night, he looked really good. All right, I'm just, listen, I'm grasping that straws here. I'm trying to find reasons to think that the commanders can win this game. So I'll take whatever I can.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Also the commanders have hired a nerd this week. Ooh, we got a nerd. So it's Eugene Shen. He is now like the senior vice president of analytics. We didn't have a guy like that before. So we got him, he was on the Jaguars for a while. He was on the Ravens, then he went off to manage a trust fund or a hedge fund.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And now he's back. And I just, it's a good hire. I think Josh Harris made a good hire. We needed a guy like that. But also I'm putting myself in Ron Rivera shoes, who is not a heavy analytics guy. Yeah. Shall we say he's not really a big anything guy,
Starting point is 00:45:32 but now we hired a nerd. Rivera is probably not gonna coach after the season's over. I don't know if he's gonna be fired mid season, but he's definitely not coming back this year. So if you have a nerd in place right now telling Ron Rivera what to do with his team, how is Rivera going to react to that? Is he going to be like, yeah, do whatever you want with him or is he? Is he going to actually like take this guy's advice, put it into practice?
Starting point is 00:45:55 I just, I feel like giving a guy who's on his deathbed, a nerd to tell him how to fix things is just going to kill him fast. Yes. It's like, if you gave Jimmy Carter a social media manager right now, yeah, like, okay, this guy's going to run your Instagram account. So he's like, okay, just pull the plug. It's over. Yeah, it's over. All right, nerd nugget.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Eagles wide receiver, AJ Brown tied an NFL record last week when he posted his fifth straight game with 125 plus receiving yards joining Calvin Johnson in 2012 and Pat Studsil in 1966. He's also the third player in Eagles history. Theroy just served five straight 100 plus yard receiving performances joining T.O. and Harold Jackson. He's very good. He's awesome. He's very good. Terry McClorens NFC East lead might be to win. It's in the world.
Starting point is 00:46:33 In trouble. Yeah. Okay. Next game. Jets Giants. Met life, the Met life bowl. Mm hmm. Jets going on the road. Jets going on the road. Tyrod Taylor is better than Daniel Jones. I think so. I think he is. It's so crazy how much the Giants fuck that up. Like you had Daniel Jones for four years and he was what? Uh, the somewhere between like the 15th and 20th best quarterbacks. Something like he played pretty good in spurts last year.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Well, no, no, so I'm saying the first, the previous four years. Yeah. Yeah. Last year he played good. Yeah. Why didn't the Giants say, hey, is this the outlier?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Maybe we should franchise tag. They were just hoping that this is who he is. Yeah, right. Like, hey, well, let's franchise tag him. See if he's that guy again instead of being like, no, that's, that's him. We only use the, does he look at himself if a player is playing worse than they did? Right.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Year before, with Daniel Jones last year, they should have been like, is you know, Jones, is he really playing like himself right now? The answer would be no, right. At that point, but still like, you, if you're in that position as a team, you think that this is just the brand new Daniel. Yeah, it's like, if I see myself, I see a good picture of myself, and I look skinny, am I skinny now? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Fun stat, the giants winning last week against the commanders, that was their first home win since the boat picture. Really? No, I just made that obvious. I can believe that that sounds like it would be. My favorite thing in terms of storylines going into this week is on WFAN.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah. Did you see it? Was it Donald LaGrecca that was talking about Zach Wilson? Oh no, I was thinking of Donald LaGrecca talking about Chris Russo, which was great. No, this is called a weakling, which is an all-time insult. Because Russo needs to retire, right? Yeah, he does. He's like, you're a weakling. Yeah, that's a great insult.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It really is. It's an insult that you only get on sports talk radio. You get bum and you get fraud and weak. We go to the big three. But there was another guy. I don't have his name in front of me. But he went in on Zach Wilson, because Zach Wilson during the by week went to Utah with his girlfriend. He went apple picking. He went well, this guy was like this guy's going apple picking you're supposed to be the quarterback. You should be in the film room the entire week. What's the fault? You should be at the facility the entire week studying in the meeting room by yourself.
Starting point is 00:48:47 He's like any other position you can leave, but the quarterback I want, I don't want my quarterback traveling with his family during the by week. I want my quarterback to be an in-sell. That's what I want. Also, Zach Wilson's definitely in the category of too much information can be dangerous for him. Yeah. Like you don't want to just have him overloaded with Ideas. Well, the entire premise of the Jets offense being good is just minimize the amount of time that Zach Wilson has with the ball in his hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Figure out a way to get Garrett Wilson on slants that Zach Wilson can hit. Yeah. Yeah. Just play on defense more. Yeah, your defense. Yeah, you're defense. Yeah, punt the ball on first. All right, nerd nugget. The Jets defense has an active streak of 24-strike games without allowing a 300 yard pass or the second longest in the NFL behind New Orleans. Whoa. Okay, good segue. Saints and Colts next. Here's a fun fact. Do you know that we're in week eight. The Colts are the only team to score 20 points in every game this season. I did not know 20 points or more that is a very fun. It's pretty fun Also, the NFL apologize to Jim Urse personally. Yeah, saw that and so Jim Urse put out a tweet saying like just ahead Zop the NFL has admitted to us that they screwed up the calls at the end of the game So hang the banner cults fans you guys should have won that game
Starting point is 00:50:02 We actually do think that you should have won that. Yes, you should have. That was bullshit the way that it came down. So maybe, maybe Jim Ersley just hallucinated Roger Gidell coming in and apologizing to him. Yes. That's probably just as likely. But, uh, yeah, the Colts, I mean, their offense is fun. They are fun. With Gardner Minshiew, you're either going to get a crappy, weird, uh, awful performance where he takes some shots and they don't pan out. Or he could actually step in and win you a game. I think Gardner Mentshu, I'm going to bet some Gardner Mentshu props this week because the Saints do play a lot of man coverage and that's usually what he does well.
Starting point is 00:50:32 So I don't know if they can win this game, but I am going to bet some Gardner Mentshu props and have some fun. He does stink against the zone. Yeah, he does. He does. He doesn't understand the kind of stuff. He's just like, wait, I want to throw it there. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:50:44 He's probably like two guys there. I think he sees his own defense and like if you're playing basketball Against the zone and pick up. You're like these pussy's yeah, probably sees his own defense He's like these guys are bunch of pussy's yeah, they won't try man. I'm man. I'm man and tries to make crazy throws Right, he's like I'm a man. These guys are bitches and he's perfect for man coverage because he's like fucking I'm gonna throw it there. Yeah, give my guy a chance. I like that Dennis Allen is so bad and so dumb. He's now into his coach speak where he's like, fuck everyone, you guys don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:16 He said this week, you get in the middle of the season and there's generally not a lot of people from outside your building that are coming in that are gonna make significant changes. We've got our guys and we're gonna be hard at work trying to fix some issues. You got this, Dennis. You actually have Sean Payton's guys.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah, you got this, but I just like that being like, no, no, no, you guys don't know this building. I also like the fact that by saying that he's justifying his entire employment. Yeah, he's like, that's why I'm here is because I'm a guy that's been the building for a while. Yeah, and I'm gonna fix this. And I'm gonna fix everything.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. We are on coin alert. We're the Saints. Remember the Jets coin? Yeah. There's a Saints coin. Oh, hell yes. And it's undefeated right now.
Starting point is 00:51:53 So this week, they are predicting a win against the Colts. The coin is. They're predicting the Saints to go 11 and 6 on the season. So they're predicting a win against the Colts, then a win against the Bears, when it gets the Vikings, when it gets the Falcons, and then they're gonna on the season. So they're predicting a win against the Colts, then a win against the bears, winning against the Vikings, winning against the Falcons, and then they're going to beat the Lions. So we're going to find out in short order whether or not this coin is legit or if it's a frog. So they have a win this week? They have a win this week. But we don't, it's early. It's early in the coins history. Week eight is when you start, you know, you start paying attention like is his counterfeiters at legit.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yes. Okay, nerd nugget. You got it. 20 points, Colts, only teams. Damn. However, you know, don't however, mate. If you get to feel good about the fact that you're doing that. You get me like once a week, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You like stealing the nerd nuggets, but then you also have to look at yourself in the mirror and being like, I'm a nerd. I'm casually. Boy, he just dropped out. He dropped out. I have a little context. I'll head however.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And it'll be tough for this week because the Saints only allow 18 points per game. However, however, also however, shout out to Blake, who won the Cold Stick. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, he says he will be dressing up as Gardner Minshue going to the game. Oh, love it.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Look at Port to sing. I love it. I hope to see some people dressing up as Mr. Erssef or Halloween in the sandstone. It would be nice. It would be nice. Okay, next up, Falcons Titans, Titans Throwback, Jersey, Will Levis, maybe Malik Willis. I hope it's Will.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I don't way, I was able to hint at a two-quarter back thing. I don't do that, don't do that for a race. Yeah, so it's gonna be tough to erase the stink much like how we were talking about with the Steelers week one when they get dominated by the Niners. It's hard to move on past that. Malik Willis' first game was an all time bad performance. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Really, really bad. And he, I think he got better. I hope he got better. No, wait, you're saying his week one, his first game last year? No, his first game ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he came in member in the London game
Starting point is 00:53:51 and that was very bad. But somehow I don't think it was as bad. That's running very first. Remember the staying in the, I do remember that. That was a, that was a brain fart. That was a brain fart. Yeah. I'm hoping for Will Levis just because I'd like to see him play.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah. I do think that the Titans have a leg up because they were they spent more time preparing for the throwback helmets than they did for travel plans to London Yes, they've been practicing with the throwback helmets for like two weeks now. They're ready to go. They're ready to roll and Who knows more who has the advantage is does Arthur Smith have more of an advantage having coach with Rable art is variable have more of an advantage Working with Arthur Smith for all those years. I think Arthur Smith. I think the person who's learning from someone learns it's like the student in the pupil and the master
Starting point is 00:54:37 and the pupil. Was that right? Is the pupil student? pupil student? Yeah. Yeah, I got it. Whatever. I haven't slept all week.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I think that the person learning from someone learns all their tricks and then adds new tricks. They're variable doesn't know. Unless you're Bellachack in which case, you just don't teach them certain things. So that we have to beat them as a head coach later. Correct, you've got that. Correct.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And Arthur Smith, maybe my favorite battle going on right now in football is Arthur Smith versus fantasy football players and prop betters because they are pissed. I think he intentionally does. I love it. I'm pretty sure I want him to just I want him to just I want to see Tyler Al Jeeer and running 40 times and quarter L Patterson being the only one who catches the ball. Yeah. He's being openly antagonistic to the great players.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It's great. It's great. I do like that a lot. But actually, we haven't had this conversation about B-Jong because B-Jong does look really, really good when he's played. And then last week, he only got one carry, right? Yeah. And that one carry seemed like a fuck you to people because if he was actually, if you had an illness, if you had a migraine or whatever, you think that he would have just not given him the ball at all, right? But giving him the ball one time seems like a fuck you.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Is Beige on Robinson somehow in Arthur Smith's doghouse? Okay. We might be on doghouse watch with them. I thought about this. And then another thing I thought about with this situation is, could Arthur Smith be a sneaky genius? Could he be saying we just spent a lot of money on this first round pick,
Starting point is 00:56:07 running back, don't put too many miles on him early in the season. B-john is gonna look that much faster late in the year. He might be doing like a Derek Henry tracker seat on time. Yeah. Like let him get cooking later. Like, he won the game without B-john.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Guess what? That's, you know, 15 carries. He doesn't have it on his legs when you get to December. Yeah, but you'd also, you would have liked to win some of those close games you were in early season. True. But I actually don't think he's in the doghouse, but it is something that we should pay attention to. Yeah, I heard just a report that he vaped in his face. There was a report that he is in the doghouse. In fact, and in terms of dog houses, uh, Bella checks doghouse is the worst, right? Save it. It's got suck, really bad. Mike Vicks.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah, yep. I bet Sean Payton's probably pretty bad too. Yeah. Sean Payton's doghouse, yeah, for sure. Nurtin Campbell. Dan Campbell's dog. Yeah, Dan Campbell, I feel like he would put you in the doghouse, he'd still come give you a pet.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah, I come in and like get sneaky some food. And like, you know, I love you. I don't want to put you in this doghouse. Look what you made me do, babe. His wife's a sleeper. That kind of guy. He sneaks back. He's like, hey, he's going to be our little secret. Yeah. It's supposed to feed you, but you know, you're a good boy. The only reason you're in the doghouse guy. I love you so much. Yeah. It's basically a pimpe. Dan Campbell's a pimpe.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Titans running back to Eric Henry can record his 39th total 100 yard Russian game this week, including regular season and playoffs. He would surpass Eddie George who has 38 for second most. And Earl Campbell has 40, some Derek Henry. Wow. Tines have really good history of running backs. Yeah. Yeah. Early Johnson, the Oilers, too.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah. Put Chris Johnson, Eddie George, Derek Henry, like, yeah, you want to go Earl Campbell. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, they do. Um, we should put this in for July. July 27th. July 27th is a Saturday. Okay, so July 25th.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Thursday. Let's do all time rankings of position groups. I also have Hank teaches us an e-con. You like that? I do like that. Like run, that's a big day for this. Oh, that's huge. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:58:06 We'll double up. But yeah, all time rankings for position groups franchise wise. Niners, nine or quarterbacks. Would you go nine or quarterbacks? You could go Packers quarterbacks, unfortunately. Mm. Yeah, it would be good. It would be good.
Starting point is 00:58:23 That's gonna be a lot of fun. That's gonna be a lot of fun. That's gonna be a lot of fun. Because I do think running backs for Titans might be, they might be number one. Okay, let's go to the next game. Texans Panthers. Frank Wright, given up play calling duty. Major Cook behavior.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I have, this probably gonna sound stupid when we play the game and the Texans beat the Panthers, because the Panthers think I think pressure is going to look good today. I think the Panthers might win their first game in the season. So the Panthers off of by, um, they are desperate for a win right now. They're trying something new on the offensive play calling side. And it does seem like this is a big, big week, if you're a Panthers fan to just have Bryce go out there and not not get blown off the field by CJ Stroud.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It's for your own mental future for your own well-being. You want to see Bryce young look like he belongs on the same field as CJ Stroud. Yes. And Thomas Brown, the new offensive coordinator, I think, like, so he's McVeigh tree. He was with the Rams. He also is with Georgia with Nick Chubb running backs coach. He was with Wisconsin when Melvin Gordon had 2500 yards running backs coach.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I feel like he's going to run the ball and get wide receivers open. Yeah, and who's the running back? Is it Miles Sanders? Sure, is it Chubb? Yeah, Miles Sanders. It's true, the hubbarr is. Yeah, yeah, Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Remember Miles Sanders? Yeah, who's pretty good. So I maybe give him't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. I'll say I don't know. The Jets and Jaguars played actually the Jets won even though Zach Wilson he had a 91 yards rushing memes probably remembers that Titans beat the box with Mario da and Winston 40 Titans beat him 42-14 and then One of the funniest stat lines the cult speed the chargers in 98 17 to 12
Starting point is 01:00:20 Both quarterbacks were exactly 12 for 23. Okay. That game, Peyton Manning and Ryan Leif. And yeah, so I don't know, that doesn't mean anything for here. It's just kind of cool. Yeah. Number one, number two. We're going to watch this game though, and then immediately we're going to be like one guys a bust. Yeah, so according to this Trevor Lawrence was a bust.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Mm-hmm. James Winston was a bust and Ryan Leif was a bust. And the, the, the right pick was Zach Wilson Marcus Marriota Yeah, great players. Yes. Yes Nerd nugget Panthers water receiver Adam Thielin has 49 receptions this season which is 33 more than any other of his teammates He also has 59 targets 30 more than any other teammate. Okay, he's just getting Stegbury catch on that team.
Starting point is 01:01:07 He's still good. Like the Panthers are talking about going out there and getting another wide receiver. He's one of the best. You can wide receiver at home. Yeah, you got one at home. Okay, before we get to the late slate, we're gonna take a quick break for a very special ad.
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Starting point is 01:02:55 For the record, when I brought Blake into the studio, Max was on the floor. Blake went right up to Max's cheek, start sniffing him. Max ignored him about 10 seconds until I was like, Max, are you gonna say hi to my dog? And then finally, you turn around, you're like, oh, hey, oh, it's a dog good. Oh, that, because he walked out of the studio and he goes, if I see that dog,
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Starting point is 01:03:47 Back to the games. Bangle's at Niners. Maybe a game of the day. I would say this game is actually can't lose for both teams. Well, Sam Darnal's starting most likely is, I think that you can't really get out of a concussion protocol that quickly, right? To a did. To a did.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Well, he watched Groober. Yeah. We need to know Groober. We need to know what cut went mid 2000s comedy's Brock party's been watching. He did practice it though. Oh, okay. Maybe he's out of the protocol.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I'm hoping for a San Donald game. I would like to see him as well. I am as well. I bangles off a buy to Higgins back. Little healthy Joe Burrow got that pep in his step. Trent Williams, he playing? Debo's not. Debo's out.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Debo makes a big difference. Both those guys make a huge difference. Because Debo's, he's the guy that Brock Purti looks to when they blitz, right? Right. And Trent Williams is the guy who blocks everyone when they blitz. Yeah. And I feel like if it's a blitz and you're looking at the hot route, having a guy that you trust that you've got good rapport with is pretty important in terms of timing,
Starting point is 01:04:50 as opposed to a guy that maybe haven't worked with that much, where you might throw a ball too quickly. These are not the same page. You might get picked off at the end of a game hypothetically. These are good points. Debo, yeah, they've got, they've got a you who's a great receiver on the other side in his own right, but also is Debo the most important player on the offense. I think Trent Williams is I think Trent Rams is for sure. I also
Starting point is 01:05:13 Christmas cap for he's playing through an oblique injury and I don't think he's exactly the same I'll say that the two touchdowns covered up a lot of stuff for him. Yeah, he's, he's, uh, last two games, 15 carries, 45 yards, 11 carries, 43 yards. Obviously he catches the ball as well. But yeah, I, maybe just like, Christian McCaffrey at 85% is still one of the best running backs in the, in the world. But Christian McCaffrey at 85% without Debo Sam, and without Trent Williams, things look different.
Starting point is 01:05:43 This is going to sound horny, but it's not. Okay. Get the bonk list ready. If you have a hip injury or an oblique injury, going home to Olivia Munn every night, it must be tough to have that injury fully heal. Wait, he's dating Olivia Munn, isn't he? No.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Is it different Olivia? Yeah, probably. I was gonna say. Same definitely not Olivia Munn. That's what I meant. Yeah. Let me rephrase that. It applies to both though. I don't know who's what I meant. Yeah, let me rephrase that it applies to both though
Starting point is 01:06:06 I don't know who's dating Olivia Munn But if you have an oblique injury going home to Olivia's tiles no Olivia Munn is married to Oh, the Engaged yeah, they have a kid together there. They're divorced so Dicus no fuck. Why can't I even think of his name right now? John Malaney. John Malaney. Yes, thank you. Lillian's 20 year old. Yeah, we kept probably on that guy.
Starting point is 01:06:30 This has been a fun. We got it all. We connected it. Thanks for tuning in to pop culture. Who's married to so many. It's a big. It's a big. It's a big.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And Olivia Munn broke up. No. No. Olivia Rodrigo. Yes. Rodrigo Blankenship. Olivia Rodrigo. No, Rodrigo Blankenship. Olivia Rodrigo. No, who did Snake is wild, right?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Olivia Wilde. That's what I'm saying. Olivia, that's the wildest bullshit. This is fucking crazy. It's funny because we cannot keep track of the Olivia's, but I know like 20 different Jailons. Yeah. And that's exactly who they are.
Starting point is 01:07:01 How many to Sean's do I know? A fuckload. Yeah, fuck. All right. Olivia's. But the point stands, which is when you're married to her, Who they are? How many just shons do I know? A fuckload. Yeah, fuck. All right. Can't, can't figure out the point. But the point stands, which is when you're married to her, it must be tough to rehab from like anything involving your
Starting point is 01:07:11 cool. To any of the Olivia's. Any of the Olivia's. Yeah, very cool. And Olivia, you're good. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, I kind of lean the, bangles here. I kind of lean the bangles here.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I don't know. I don't know who's Joe burrow dating We don't know and we were gonna respect his private life. Come on. Hey, that changed that that's that's if we're talking It's up to Joe whoever he wants Olivia holes-macker what or whole I don't know what pronounce it. It's actually who he's dating. Yeah, he's That was an Olivia I want to fuck his go. I feel like I feel like I'm in like Pennsylvania. I feel like Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:07:50 What the hell is going on out here? I've never met an Olivia in real life. And everyone's fucking. I'm an extra. Am I the only person that hasn't fucked an Olivia? I haven't. I haven't. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Me neither. Max just raises high for us. Thanks to you in a little Jersey Jerry, wink. Okay, good. Me neither. Max just raises high for us. Thanks to a little Jersey Jerry, wink. That's nuts. That's nuts. Too many Olivia's. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Did they just make Olivia's hotter? I think maybe if you date in Olivia, you reach the top. It's gotta be a pick in here somewhere for you big guy. I'm also thinking of, I have a couple friends whose daughter's names Olivia, and they listen to this show, and they're gonna text me and be like, what the fuck? Dude, Olivia's are hot. Well, they marry quite well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Okay, all right. Shout out Olivia's everywhere. Do you have any listeners name Olivia? Oh, for sure. And they're the hottest. Yeah, they are the hottest. Yeah. Hit up the YouTube comments for your Olivia. Mm-hmm. So
Starting point is 01:08:47 Nerd nugget. Oh, this was a best. This was a best analysis of a game ever. It's crazy. That was not so nuts I feel like you knew that I saw I promise you I did not okay The 49ers are the only team in the NFL to have four different players with two or more Interceptions this year at Tolano who funga Diamador Lenore Charbr, Lennore, Chaubert, Ray Sward, and Fred Warner. You just did that because you want to say the name. What? You do that nerd nugget because you want to say the name. You crushed it.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I practiced it. Yeah, but you wanted to say the name. You wanted to flex. Say, you flexed it again, Jay. You flexed with the nerd nugget. Diamador, Lennore. No, no, no. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:09:21 What? The other guy. Tarrvarius Ward. No. What are you doing right now? Diamador Lennore. Tallahoneur, who fun no, no. What, the other guy? It's our various word. No, what are you doing right now? The Amador little or Talino, who funga? Yeah, that was the hell. Yeah, and Fred Warner. He just flexed again.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah, because he was like, oh, you want me to do the hard name? And he said, yeah, Fred Warner is the hard name. The funga is the hard name. Who are easy. Yeah, but a funga is the hard name. A few of a crazy name and you can play defense. You're on the 49ers. Yeah, okay, Browns and hard name. A few of a crazy name and you can play defense. You're on the 49ers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Okay. Browns and Seahawks. I'm high on the Seahawks. I am too. I think we've reached a good point in the does Dishon Watson really love football discourse. And I think the waters have been muddied successfully enough to now, I'm at the point where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:10:01 yeah, I don't think he really does football. No, I also, I'm so high on the Seahawks PFT. Would you like to ride on a bet with me? Well, I do like the Se, I don't think he really doesn't know. No, no. I also I'm so high on the C-ox PFT Would you like to ride on a bet with me? Well, I do like the C-ox this week. No, I know would you like to ride on a bet? It depends on what the bet is. You have to say yes before and then you have to bet it with me. Yeah, C-ox plus 400 to win the NFC West Both their games against the 49ers are ahead of them. You love betting against her friends. Yeah, listen We have some friends on the C-ox, DK. Yeah, that's true. More like a friend of me.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I don't think so. It's not a bet against the 49ers can win. 49ers actually might be better at winning the Super Bowl as a wild card. I don't think. How about that take? I don't think DK can do it. I think.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Well, you already said yes, you have to do it. Yeah, I will do it. But I also want to fire up DK a little bit. DK, he's a hothead right now He's been injured. I don't think this guy's got together. It seems like all the pre draft analysis was right on him Where it's like wise DK, you know, why's he falling so low? Oh cuz he can't turn I think he has learned how to turn But he forgot his bread and butter. Yeah, he's very tough at going straight now Cancel the bat just looked at their schedule hadn't looked at their schedule. I already said yes though
Starting point is 01:11:04 Okay, we'll do a little bit. I'll spring yes though. Okay, we'll do a little bet. I'll sprinkle a little bit. I'll sprinkle a little bit. Oh, can we do, I don't know if you can parlay the Seahawks to win the West and the 49ers to win the Super. Well what you can do. That would be a wild one. Here's what we should do.
Starting point is 01:11:16 There's some bets because I was looking at exact order of division bets. Yeah. We can bet on the Seahawks to win the division. 49ers coming second. Rams coming third, Cardinals coming fourth. I would ride on that because you probably get some good values.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Yeah, they have a tough schedule. And I also, all my Seahawks love is crazy as it sounds, is because I bet on the Bengals versus Seahawks and I had no business winning that game and I walked away from it being like respect. Yeah, they're tough teams. That's a respect loss. Is it Seahawks? They're tough out. Yeah. No, they're tough team. That's a that was a respect loss. Is it Seahawks? They're tough out. Yeah. No, they're a good team.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I yeah, in the Browns PJ Walker on the road. No. Yeah. Um, PJ Walker's a nice player. He's nice. Nice guy. Nice guy. Nice guy. Uh, Jake. The Seahawks defense currently has a three game streak of keeping opponents under 250 yards of offense. The last time that occurred, was the last three games of the 2015 season. Legion spoon was that Legion of Boomer right after. I don't know, but this is what it in 23. This is Legion of Spoon.
Starting point is 01:12:13 And I do believe in the Cialix defense. I feel I feel like they are, they're for real. I'm going to say Cialix defense for real Kyle called them when we were just, we were driving over here, called them the in the middle period the legion of whom Okay, I had never heard that that was good. That's good when they're having a bad season. Yeah, no That's what I'm saying like in the it was Legion of boom then it was Legion of whom now it's Legion of spoon. Okay. Yeah, I like that Yeah, yeah, okay next up Ravens Cardinals Cardinals think yeah, they stink, but
Starting point is 01:12:43 They hit in the first half again They did they did this is the this is the playbook for the Cardinals you. Yeah, they stink, but they hit in the first half again. They did, they did. This is the playbook for the Cardinals. You go out there, you might even win the first half, you compete, you have a good game plan going into. Must compete. Then you compete and then at halftime their coach is like, okay, remember we're tanking
Starting point is 01:12:56 right now. So we're going to make zero adjustments or maybe make a bunch of wrong adjustments at halftime. They were going to get our teeth kicked in in the second half and everybody's going to be happy afterwards because this is the game plan. This is what we're gonna do. I want to keep that formula going, because I'm a very bad gambler,
Starting point is 01:13:12 but when I find something that works, I stick with those so they keep me afloat to support all my other terrible bets. Yeah. So I've been making money on this one, but now the Cardinals are missing Zach Erts, big part of their offense, and they're missing James Conner, who's actually been good this year. Yeah. So I'm this is going to be the make a break moment for me.
Starting point is 01:13:34 I'm going to do it again this week. And if they burn me, then I'm off the Cardinals, but they're going to get their shit kicked in in the second half at least. Yes. Yes. Yes. Nerd nugget. get their shit kicked in in the second half at least. Yes. Yes. Yes. Nerd nugget. The Ravens 7 overall touchdowns allowed this season ties their 2000 Super Bowl team for fewest permitted by Baltimore through the first seven games of a season in franchise history.
Starting point is 01:13:55 That's pretty impressive. Ravens are good. Yeah. They're very good. Yeah. Like, I touched down seven weeks. If the Ravens, if the Todd Munkin offense, if that was the game against the Lions, the launching pad for that offense, like we could look back and be like, Oh, shit, the
Starting point is 01:14:10 Ravens are really good. They also just love is another Lamar playing the NFC. Yeah, that's true. A good point. Yep. So 16 and one. They just love playing anyone but the AFC North. Yeah. I feel like whenever the Ravens play the AFC North is trouble, whenever they can get out of the division, they can beat people. Is Collar Murray playing this week? No. Are we sure?
Starting point is 01:14:30 Not sure. I think he participated in practice fully. Oh, so maybe. Because the job needs him to play. The Cardinals have all the short kings. Hollywood Brown, the injury, more. More is so fun to watch explosives. Pube. He's back soon. Colla Murray. He's back soon. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Last afternoon game Chiefs of Broncos. I thought we're gonna get our first snow game of the year. It's gonna snow in Denver on Saturday. So is he gonna be cold on Sunday? I don't know. They'll get it off the field. Yeah, they'll get it off the field. So I was excited because I was like, ooh, first snow game. Pretty early, but what I'm cool. Uh, did you know, and this is a fucked up stat because the chiefs are really, really good and probably the best team in the NFL. Did you know that the chiefs lead the league in passes dropped? I did not know that such bullshit. Yeah, the 18 that's such bullshit It is but look half those are cadarious toner. Yeah. Yeah, it's that's just that's bullshit
Starting point is 01:15:31 Also, here's a stat little woe stat for everyone out there Patrick Mahomes in his career has lost 17 games in the regular season Russell Wilson in his Broncos career has lost 17 games in the regular season. Russell Wilson in his Broncos career has lost 16. So if Russell Wilson loses this game, he will have the same amount of losses in his one and a half years with the Broncos, as Patrick Holmes has his entire career. So everything about this game tells you take the chiefs, including that stat right there. Yeah. And they've been historically dominant over the Broncos who have just had a sad, sad recent history against the chiefs.
Starting point is 01:16:09 But I was thinking to myself, because I'm looking for an excuse to not bet on the chiefs in this game. Do you think Broncos players are going to play harder knowing that they're playing for the right to possibly not be on the Broncos anymore? Mm. Like you could get traded. Get a jail. Yeah. Play. You could get traded. Yeah. Play your way out of jail.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. It's a possibility. Just something that I thought about. I totally very dumb in using that analysis to try to bet on the Broncos this week. Yeah. But it's something that crossed my mind and I'm not totally convinced that it's wrong.
Starting point is 01:16:38 You just work it out. You got 48 hours to work it out. Yeah. All right. Last game, Bears Chargers. Oh, nerd nugget. Sorry. This one's actually crazy. I do this once a week, where it's my favorite one of the corner shot. Yeah. Last week it worked. Yeah. All right. I'm unbiased. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:52 This is from Curtis Sebel on Twitter. Since the beginning of 2017, the chiefs have either led or have been tied for the lead in the AFC West in 102 of 111 regular season weeks. They've led the AFC West for nearly six consecutive years. Well, they've won the AFC West for seven consecutive years. But week one through week 17, slash 18, 102 out of 111. I'm gonna say B minus crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I'm sorry, because the chiefs, like, but leading, like, even the chiefs are 30 and three or two Patrons is 29 and I'm nation. I feel like they lost a game between weeks one and four where they didn't lead every week Well, the chiefs haven't let it. Yeah, the chiefs haven't let it 102 out of 11 I view it said a lot of you it said 110 out of 111. I would have been like crazy Well, okay, I'm being on bias. It's a good stat. The picture is kind of a longer run. The Patriots had 11 years in a row. So the chief star tied for the second most was seven years in a row winning division.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So of those nine weeks, eight of them came in 2021. So most of them they have that. Okay, that's interesting. You're working to it. So that's how you get a frame. The stat now is, besides this one year that completely disproved my point nine of 2021, and the week one of this year when they lost the lines, they've led the AFC West since 2017 every week. That is, that is, I think that's fairly impressive. I'll go up to a B.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Fine, I'm gonna give you a B. That's good. Yeah, I convinced myself. Like I would sell, now that I think about, I would sell a kidney to even have like the weeks that they didn't lead the division to have the commanders in the last seven years. Like how many years they've led the division.
Starting point is 01:18:32 It's crazy. That's great. Yeah. Eight weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Eight weeks sounds awesome.
Starting point is 01:18:40 All right. Bears Chargers. Tyson Baygent. Let's see what you got. Yeah. The only note I had for bears chargers, I literally just wrote why, question mark. Why? I think it's just, they didn't want to burn one of their flexes. Chicago's obviously a big market and yeah, why?
Starting point is 01:18:56 That's it, why are you doing this? The, so I am gonna take the Bears against the spread because they like Brandon Saley just lives to fuck up games and make him a three point win or three point loss. That's what he loves to do. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair to say like they all find a way they seem to be playing. It's like going back to Philip Rivers. Yeah, Justin Herbert went to ball in his hands driving down a score fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Right. Exactly has to happen. Exactly. Uh, nerd nugget. Chargers running back off the neck. There are needs one touchdown to reach 30 for his career. That would set the record for most receiving touchdowns in the Super Bowl era by running back with a single team that would break a tie with Brian Westbrook, who has 29 with the Eagles. Okay. I would put the charges up there with the Titans in terms
Starting point is 01:19:42 of good running backs on a team for a long time. Yeah. I've got a good history. Yeah. Danian is carries a lot. Yeah. Lorenzo Niel. Neutron means. Neutron means business.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Michael Turner, Darren Sproles. Yeah. No, they had some good ones. Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon. All right. Ryan Matthews. Ryan Matthews.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Picks and standings. I feel like I'm taking on water. Standings for the warm-up opening act of our show in Las Vegas. I am 9-4-1. Max is 8-6, memes is 6-8. Oh. Oh, no, memes.
Starting point is 01:20:23 And for the main event between you guys. cat 75 and two pft 8 and 6 So I guess you guys are technically tied Yeah, I'm not gonna match the one wins. Yeah, we're tied. Yeah, we'll have eight points. Yeah, Hank 67 and one That would be an electric show got your ass. All right, who's up first? You're up first. I'm up first Fuck yes, can I pass no? Can't pass nope being up first. No Fuck I don't want to be up first I'll go with um talk a lot about the Packers
Starting point is 01:21:05 I'll do a stupid one. Saints Colts over 43 and a half. All right. Who's up next? That would be me. I'm stalling. We just we just started a new cycle now that we. Yeah, let's start a new cycle.
Starting point is 01:21:22 We're PFT. Go first. Those are seats now. These are our seats. We're going from the old studio and it's all. Yeah, let's start a new cycle. PFT. The first. Those are seats now. These are a six. Yeah, we're going from the old studio and it's all. Yeah, it's all jumbled. So you go PFT will go around. I'm in luck.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Next week. This feels like we're switching up methods in midstream. No, this is fine. You want to go Hank's second? I think it's easier for us to agree with Jake. Okay, we're going to be in this circle. Exactly this way. Okay, okay. Steelers in this circle exactly this way. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Steelers. Steelers. Steelers. Steelers plus two and a half. Okay. Jake. I'm going to go with Rams plus six against the Cowboys. Okay. Sean McVeigh baby game. Okay. Max. Jake, did you listen to what we said about that? Yeah, I know. You think maybe kids score a touchdown. Yeah, you think they can't score more time. Yeah. Away from the max. Big hat. What did you say? I said the over in the Saints Colts. I'll say Packers plus one and a half. Great. Again, smart move. You're an idiot. I laid that trap perfectly. I don't think that the Packers are so bad. They're never going to win that game. You fell that trap perfectly. I don't think the packers are so bad,
Starting point is 01:22:25 they're never gonna win that game. You fell for the trap, idiot. Shut up. You shut up. It's actually my mortal lock and advisor. So I really do like them. All right, memes. Jaguars minus two and a half.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Oh, head ahead with PFT, Hank, double, bears. Plus eight and a half, Baygent money line love it. Love it. And then I'm going to go in honor of Olivia. Bangles 49ers over 43 and a half. Okay. Memes. Vikings Packers over 42.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Okay. Everyone Olivia soprano died. Do you know the Vikings are actually AI? It's like six and one to the under I think this year. But not makes no sense. They miss it by like a couple point. Yeah, by a half a point every time. All right, Max. I will go Falcons Titans under. Oh, I like that Max. I like what you did there. You've got 35 and a half. Army Navy. Wow. Okay. Go ahead, Jake. I'm going to go with Eagles, Commanders, over 43 and a half. It wasn't like 34, 31, half the time on the other time. Exactly. I'll go again.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Fine. You little small. All right, PFT. I'm going to take the, uh, the Ravens Cardinals over 44 and a half Someone take the Seahawks no, I'll take the Seahawks my three and a half and those are our picks We'll post them out on Sunday and let's do some fantasy fuck boys What's up fuckers's up, fuckers? What's up, fuckers? It's dead on this diggle.
Starting point is 01:24:10 My stratum is Christaphe Poison guests. BOOOOO Unbelievable debut for the seas. The space you go on the floor was incredible. 30 points. Game winning three. Clutch gene defense. If you stay healthy this team's winning number 18.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Okay. My say to him. Bella tricks the strange. Of course. Yeah. What? She's a murderous whore. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:24:35 Took out serious. Took out the long bottoms. Someone's got to stop this bitch. Right. I was I've been saying that for years. And my sleeper. I know exactly. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:44 That's a good point. It's driving into poles. Oh shit. You're falling asleep at the wheel. Or you're just blind as a bat, you just drive straight into a parking lot and into a pole. Oh, you can suck my dick, it happens to a lot of guys. So I'm gonna throw them back. We're gonna watch it.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's suck my dick from the back. I'm starting. Hey, hey, what's up? You cock you are Cock suckers you cock suckers. This is Buzz Flaviano Buzz Yeah, there we go. They call me the B-man. I'm starting. I'm starting Sam Halloween spooky spooky
Starting point is 01:25:18 Making scary throws to scary Terry this weekend love Sam how I'm sitting giant poles and parking lots Terry this weekend loves Sam how I'm sitting giant poles and parking lots Because some people pull it up on a fucking Google Maps and they say oh look at this Day glow yellow that was wrapped around this pole telling you don't hit me and then all of a sudden somebody took the day glow yellow off And it's now a very hazardous pole that many people be driving into God forbid My sleeper is carbon monoxide because you should change your carbon monoxide batteries When you say clock's back which as we get this weekend good call. What's up? Fuckers it's Santino Fantino ASF My start on this week is Barry Sanders and a special fuck you to LinkedIn because Barry Sanders couldn't get into his LinkedIn
Starting point is 01:26:02 And he asked everyone to help him out what what fucking job is Barry Sanders looking for? I don't know, but now I can't look up his resume I can't ask you what he did. He said LinkedIn is suspended my account as they don't believe it's me It's it is him. It's Mary. My set him is the Chicago balls one game, and they got a player's only meeting Yeah, it's pretty good. That's it. Oh bills had a place only meeting to yeah pretty good They told Billy Donovan take a hike and then my sleeper is Connistallians with the Michigan manifesto. I want to read that manifesto. It's gonna be great 550 pages
Starting point is 01:26:37 That's book and I'm you right. You write a manifesto about something you fucked up. You fucked up I'm real quick with the manifesto. something, you're fucked up. You're fucked up. Real quick with the manifesto. Yeah. This is new news today. The FBI has actually joined the investigation to Michigan football. Well, that's there. How many FBI agents went to Ohio State?
Starting point is 01:26:54 Well, there already was. It was, and that's a separate. Yeah, but this is a new, and the FBI now is invested. Because there was a staffer, I think Matt Weiss' name. He got all of his computers taken over the summer. Yeah. Michigan State. What's going through the manifesto and a mission statement?
Starting point is 01:27:10 The manifesto is if you're going to murder somebody. Yeah. Typically, I'm a mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy.
Starting point is 01:27:20 The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. The mission photo call guy. Yeah, if you write a manovato, you should be a rest. It's bad. It's very bad. Stick with protocols. There's a conspiracy theory that I am 100% on board with now about counter stallions. Yeah. So Big T brought this to my attention yesterday.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I've been digging into it a little bit. Okay. There were some allegations that Michigan had also helped out future opponents of potential future playoff teams to get ahead of it so that Michigan would, in theory, have an easier time in the college football playoff. You go back and you look at South Carolina who I think they scored zero points on offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:54 The week they before they played Tennessee, and then they dropped 60 points on Tennessee. Yeah. And then the week after that, they go on the road against another top five team, Clemson, and they beat Clemson. And they were a shitty team until those two weeks. And the game against Tennessee, that's the first time that that South Carolina had been wearing wristbands on defense. The first time they've ever done that. Wait, the Clemson thing doesn't make sense. So
Starting point is 01:28:19 because Clemson sucked last year. No, Clemson, I think at the time, no, they weren't in the college football playoff. Are you? I'm pretty sure. Okay. But I like the other part. Let's look it up. No, we just got to clean it up because I think,
Starting point is 01:28:31 so I think the Clemson part might be, Big T should let go, the Clemson part. Okay, I asked Big T also to bring me a connection. What is the connection between Michigan and South Carolina? Because if there's a connection, then I'll continue pulling on this string. The defense of coordinator at South Carolina played defense of back at Stanford from 2007 to 2009
Starting point is 01:28:55 when Harbaugh was their head coach. Ooh, interesting. It is interesting to think about. It's a lot of interesting things. Clemson had lost the previous week to Notre Dame that got smoked in November of 2022. But so I two two weeks before so I guess the theory on this so Clemson didn't stink at the time, right? They they're taking a very bad one loss bad one loss. So the theory is that Harbaugh was looking ahead protecting himself in case
Starting point is 01:29:24 he lost to Ohio state, to be like, we don't want to be the only, we don't want to go up against another one lost team and compete to see who's going to get it. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I love this story so much. There's two very funny possible outcomes to it. One Michigan wins the national championship, which would be hilarious.
Starting point is 01:29:43 And then gets a lifetime ban. And then lifetime ban. And then life time ban, uh, two Michigan, it, if like all this shit is real, then the big 10, probably not the NCAA, the big 10 might say you're not playing in our championship game this year. And Michigan would, I don't know if they might not be bowl eligible. If there's enough, there's enough shit going on behind the scenes. The only problem is the NCAA works so slow. They do. Jim Harbors still open an investigation for the COVID violations.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That's true. They track their feet so hard. I have had some very high level conversations with the highest of levels at Barstable Sports about a potential national championship game. If Michigan is bowl and eligible, between Michigan and James Madison, if James Madison is also undefeated. We've got thinking about James Madison. The conversations have started. Yes, I liked that high level.
Starting point is 01:30:33 High level. High level. Highest of level conversation. Highest of levels. I've had a couple sit downs with some big shot colors here. They're talking about it. Okay, I like it. Hank, what's up?
Starting point is 01:30:47 Did you get to see PFT's video? I haven't yet. Have you seen it, PFT? I have seen the video. Yeah. Can I see it? Can we see it? Oh, what do you mean my video?
Starting point is 01:30:55 Great, we can see it. We can see it. We can see it. The video of you crashing a new poll. So, how'd you see it? Because I was the one that got the security footage yesterday, Max. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Yeah, I went into the office and I was like, Hey, let me see the surveillance footage and the guy started playing before we see it and downloading I was the one that got it you came in late. I have not seen it I would like to see it also everyone subscribed to the YouTube because we now have the capabilities of playing videos for ourselves in Studio watch this poll come on. We might start doing this like a Jamie, please pull up PFT crashing into a poll. Okay, so there's the poll. Where's the, there's, you said there's another call. Actually, I can't even see the poll. Oh no, you're, this is not, I can't even see the poll because it's yellow. Good driver thing. So what we're not seeing right now is the giant 18 wheeler that was coming at me from the left. You guys didn't even get all the angles. He said he was gonna send you all the angles.
Starting point is 01:31:45 It was like awesome powers going back. Oh no, PFT. This is a bad look. Okay. There's there. We go. There's my car and then Crunch crunch right into it. Oh no, I backed up and I'm trying to get out of it. You know the sensors are going crazy right now. Every sensor was going on and you just were like, nah, I'm fine. I'm trying to get out. Oh, and you're scraping it more. I can't even see that pull. Oh my god. Oh, this is not helping the I'm a good driver. Well, you do it.
Starting point is 01:32:13 That's it though, right? You didn't even play it from the start. Then I get out of there. There's no 18 wheeler. No cars. See that car on the left? On the far left? Yeah, that's 100 feet away.
Starting point is 01:32:23 No, that's a FedEx 18 wheeler that made me turn out of there because I had to. Which is a pretty routine turn that you're making. The FedEx is on the street. Yeah, and this is also a right. The FedEx is right here. This is a very regular turn. I'm a perfect driver.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah, okay. Well, Jake's not allowed to laugh. You hear that, Jake? I'm not laughing. You're not allowed to laugh Yeah, but if you thought about laughing then cut it out. Yeah, I'm not laughing. Okay. You're rooted for Jim Bayheim You're rooting for dance later team We're very well. So what you want about dance stider, but I don't think yeah, you're wrong He has a driver also Jakeakes a big Tony Elliott guy Big Tony Sturker
Starting point is 01:33:13 I know No, it's not a game. Jesus Christ now Jake's laughing That backfired. Okay. I made a bad turn, but that pole came out of nowhere. And the fact remains that the pole used to be clearly marked as a safety hazard with yellow
Starting point is 01:33:36 and then Hank designs a parking lot and all of a sudden the safety yellow is completely gone. You did this, Hank. You did this. I'm gonna fix it. I'm gonna get a giant giant fat head of you there. Okay. To commemorate the moment.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah. Remind people not to drive into this pole. So like two days ago, just looking at how awesome my car was before I ran into this pole. And then now it's just like, I'm so disappointed myself. It's a sick car though. There's gotta be a guy. Someone hit us up, Autobotty Shop.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Give us a nice deal. No free ads. No free ads. Alright, let's get to Kyle Long. Oh. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. Long-term, long-time friend of the show, recurring guest, in person, first ever in-person guest.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And the new part of my take studios, it is Kyle Long, our guy, recurring guests in person first ever in person guest. And the new part of my take studios, it is Kyle Long, our guy, three time pro baller, no big deal. You can see him on CBS on Sundays, you can see him on the Green Light podcast, you can also see him on the Barso Pro Football Football show on Friday nights and Sunday mornings, Rear. Kyle, it's going on boys.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Welcome, it's great to see you. It's going on, boys. Welcome. It's great to see you. Awesome studio. Awesome building here. I was just saying before we started, I'm secondhand proud of you guys like your family. And you are family.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yes. We've been nurturing this relationship for a while. So it's great to see you all in studio. I appreciate that. Does that mean how is your dad too? Yeah, how is, you know, somewhere in there, you know, you might get some kick down, some kickbacks from the old flat top.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I just want to, I want the ability to visit the Montana House for like one week a year. You got it. And there's nobody willing to invite more people to our summer home than my dad. He's so proud of it. Like, you guys are of the studio, dad's like, have you been to Montana? Yeah. You know, you guys talk to him? Yeah, yeah. No, we talk to you. It was a great interview. I want to go to Montana and I want PFT and I to go out on a boat and pretend that we're in trouble so we have to rescue us to get those numbers up. Yeah, well, the thing is, if he does rescue you in the middle of the lake, dad always brings the biodegradable soap just in case in the emergency of your really dirty.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Do you know you can bathe out here? It's a big bat. Catch this soap. I love them. This is a dad thing because he's going out there to save you, but also he's a big bat catch this soap. I love them. This is a dad thing because he's going out there to save you, but also he's bringing a dad fact with him. He's like, did you know that this lake is so clean that it could actually be bathwater?
Starting point is 01:35:53 Yes, this Mr. Keel's, Dr. Keel's soap. It actually benefit the fishbite permission. He was great. He was great on the show. And I didn't realize it before we interviewed him that he was in that thing you do. Yeah. So when did you find out that your dad played a gay guy
Starting point is 01:36:06 in that thing you do? That's a great question. Great question. I knew that he was, he had a part, a small part, something like in the director's cut. I believe it was the scene with Tom Hanks and my dad leaving a nice hotel going to a date night and dad's waiting in the car for Tom Hanks,
Starting point is 01:36:23 who's trying to get his band members back to the hotel. They've been drunk all night. So he's like, I'm going on a date. But yeah, dad, Tom Hanks, dating and a drop top Corvette probably, you know, 1960s Corvette. Yeah. It was a good look for my dad. Yeah. Actually, it is a big come up if your dad in theory in like movie land, Hollywood world,
Starting point is 01:36:43 if he is good looking enough where he could conceivably play Tom Hanks boyfriend. Yeah. He's a dual threat. Just like when you look at some of these corner backs that you throw at, they can stand in the pocket, dad. Yeah, he's good old. Yes. And a high level.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Yes. All right, so I mentioned at the top of you, you analyze football for a living now, which actually before we talk about the NFL right now and maybe some weak eight picks, how do you like analyzing football for a living? Is it a little weird sometimes? I thought it was gonna be a lot easier than it is.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Okay. So honestly, every Sunday, luckily I just do pre-game, I don't have to do post-game, and I'm with CBS Sports, and we tee up the NFL today's show with Phil Sims and Boomer and all those guys, but my job is give people my opinions, post game and I'm with CBS Sports and we tee up the NFL today show with Phil Sims and boomer and all those guys. But my job is give people my opinions before the game. What's going to happen? And I don't have to answer them after the game. Right. I don't have to come back
Starting point is 01:37:34 in and have time and say, well, I was way fucking off on Detroit. Yep. Yep. Which is great. And you know, that's fun. I get to talk from an O-Liamonds perspective, which there's not many of in TV. You get a lot of skill players, you get a lot of quarterback coaches, get a lot of journalists. Yeah. But I think the offensive line community is one that isn't, isn't able to speak up on a national level enough.
Starting point is 01:37:58 And I love what Whitworth's done with Amazon. He does a really good job and they let him lead some segments, which is great. I think he's an ass kicker and a great guy. But as far as I go, yeah, I watch what I watch, which is a line of scrimmage. And if you do something worth talking about outside of that, I'm probably going to talk about it, but it's hard. You know, it's hard. You have to come up with fresh things to say every week. I can't just say their D lines better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get a lot of tips. You can just call people every week. I can't just say their D-line's better. Yeah, you've got a lot of tips. You can just call people frauds.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I can call people frauds, which I've done. I called Daniel Jones Daniel Loans a couple of years ago. That was my first step over the line. It was like Daniel Loans. And people were like, that wasn't that good. Yeah, you can also just make stuff up. You can make stuff up, which I have. Yeah, if you're wrong, you'd be like, that was a bit.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yep. That's essentially the entirety of this show. You have to check the injury reports too. Because like you and I and PFT, we know the teams, we know the rosters. No, I often times like to let it surprise me. When you're asked about the day of, like somebody was like, what's gonna happen in this game?
Starting point is 01:39:01 I'm like, well, so and so is gonna have a great game. They're like, so and so's on IR. Yeah, yeah. Who was gonna tell me that before this show? I'm like, well, so and so's gonna have a great game. They're like, so and so's on IR. Yeah. And I'm like, who was gonna tell me that before they show? I like to get to the games on Sunday and be like, wait, I haven't seen this guy and someone's like, oh, well, he broke his leg last week. I'm like, oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You know what else you get to do is like, if a player, let's say Brock Purti on Monday night, football Brock Purti doesn't play well, then you go out and you absolutely like, crucify the guy, then I say like, this guy sucks now. And then they announce, well, he actually had a concussion in the second half. Then you say that's bullshit. They're making excuses for them. You get to just you get to say that injuries aren't real too, which is a real fun part of the game.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Oh, man. And that's one thing that's tough about being in the media is they say like if you're calling a game or something and you guys have called live events, they say if there's an injury, you're just supposed to say the guys down. You're not supposed to take guests. You were not doctors. We're not any of that stuff. And that's a point of emphasis before the season when you have your seminar, your webinar or whatever, they're like, guys, you're not doctors. Like when Roma was speculated, he's like, I don't want to speculate here, but that looks like a sprained ankle for that press got when his foot was turned back.
Starting point is 01:39:58 That was, we did a rough and rowdy once when a guy had a seizure after getting knocked out. And I did the right thing of not talking about it, but I didn't realize the whole time they had the camera on us. And I was just like this. I had my hands over my head. And everyone was like, did the guy die? Like, all we see is Dan just looking like he died.
Starting point is 01:40:14 So yeah, I gotta learn on that. I asked Jim Nance for any advice. You know, you ask that you get an opportunity to have a phone call with a guy like Jim Nance. There was a conference call. It wasn't like I called Jim Nance. But, you know, Jim, any advice. And he was like, you know, you ask that you get an opportunity to have a phone call with a guy like Jim Nancy. There's a conference call. It wasn't like I called Jim Nancy, but Jim, any advice and he was like, you know, it's important to remember that it's a visual medium. And I was like, before he could even continue, I was like, fuck, he's like, you know, like
Starting point is 01:40:36 sometimes silence is golden. Yes. And he paused for five seconds. And he was like, you don't have to fill up this space. He was like, people are watching the game. Yeah. They happen to be listening to us. That's good. That's good. Very nice. Well, I have some advice for CBS. If you want to take this to the suits upstairs. Great. CBS fantastic network. I love watching games on on on on on Fox one thing that I think CBS could maybe learn from a little bit that Fox does is when a player gets injured
Starting point is 01:41:09 They play the Fox NFL Sunday music, but they do the somber version of it. Got it. Go to commercial break. Maybe a somber CBS. Yeah, you need injury music to let people know like hey We're playing the buff from music, but also we're not happy about it We're not excited like I think both me and Big Cat have said in the past that we want the Fox NFL injury music to be played at our funeral. Which is where as you lower the cast. Yeah, it's like when stadium has the most disrespectful PA announcer, like if somebody goes down, what are they going to play? Yeah, I mean, it's always what another one bites the dust. Yeah, I heard it all. I got it. It's been injured
Starting point is 01:41:40 in every stadium in America. Like I've heard all the songs. That's a nice that's a nice little trophy in your in your closet. Yeah, just a guy who's injured in every stadium in America, like I've heard all the songs. That's a nice little trophy in your closet. Yeah, just a guy who's been injured in every stadium. Just a stack of fucking band-aids, like, you know, and some dirt to rub on it. Yeah. Like worst injury of the year could be an end of the year NFL award.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Like you have the Golden Crutch. Yeah. Hey, sorry. They give you the Ed Block Courage Award, which I want it, I want it because I came back from a brutal injury. That's the award essentially. Like somebody who showed toughness and the ability to get back on the horse and then
Starting point is 01:42:13 I got injured again and they were like, yeah, he can't win the award again. He can't keep doing this. They kept voting me in and they were like, no, no, it's got to be somebody else. Yeah, he's getting injured on purpose. Getting injured. Yeah, I mean, let's actually go into that real quick because it is very fascinating when we hear guys talk about injuries because we think, okay, you get an injury like, oh yeah, like, you know, you're still around the team, you're still part
Starting point is 01:42:38 of the thing, but that's not how it works, the NFL. Is that the worst part of the injury, the fact that you are essentially a ghost in the facility? You took the word right out of my mouth. If people don't talk to you, people don't even like, converse with you. Yeah, I mean, not only are you not playing and not helping, but throughout the day, your schedule's different. You know what I mean? You may go to meetings with the office. Let's say I get an injury to my lower leg.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I can't play for six weeks. For six weeks, I'm gonna be lifting by myself with the training staff. I'm gonna be in early with the training staff. I'm gonna be in late with the training staff. I'm not gonna be able to practice with my guys. They're gonna launch it a different time than I am. You become a ghost.
Starting point is 01:43:16 You become a stranger to your own closest friends. And then when you get back in the building, after you've rehabbed and done all the things that they said, if you do this, you'll be able to come back. You get back, you don't feel like yourself on the field. And that's become your identity throughout the years. Then you say, yeah, this isn't me. I don't feel good. I don't feel good at all. And then you start to have the self doubt. And then that injury becomes your career. Yeah. Do you ever have coaches that blamed you for getting injured? Yes. That's the worst, isn't it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Why'd you step there? Dude. So this guy, this guy's got pussy bones. Yeah. We went to Tampa Bay and we were playing in my fourth year, I believe. And we had a full back by the name of Paul La Sique, who was, he had a voice like an angel, like a songbird, but he was a rugby guy. I think he was Kiwi.
Starting point is 01:44:02 I like this guy. We check in all the boxes. We ran the Andy Reed shovel pass in the low red area. Okay. I was on the douche block. So it's a double team with me and the right, I guess I was playing guard. So it would have been the right tackle. We're a double team in a guy. Cutler flips the ball to the CK behind the douche. You know, they go with the shovel pass option. And the ball was fumbled. It landed on my legs near the back of my legs while I they go with the shovel pass option. Um, and the ball was fumbled, it landed on my legs near the back of my legs while I'm driving into the end zone and the pile falls on my legs, specifically my right ankle, which just got exploded. Um,
Starting point is 01:44:36 and I remember I went in after I got, I got surgery like two days later. I went in to go meet with my coach. And he's like, you know, if you just use that fucking technique that I told you. Oh, dickhead. Oh, no. And I remember looking at him like, you've got to be kidding. Yeah. In this moment here, that's what you chose to say.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Yeah, like the entire pile just fell on my leg. What the fuck do you want me to do? Yeah, I mean, so that does happen. And you know, wasn't my fault? Maybe, wasn't not my fault, maybe. Yeah so that does happen. Um, and you know, wasn't my fault? Maybe wasn't not my fault. Maybe. Yeah. Football shit happens.
Starting point is 01:45:08 There's bodies flying around everywhere. Me and Wil Compton were talking about it today. I said, there's some days I look at this game and I say, I can still play. And then he said, and there's some days I look at the game and I'm like, how did I play this? Right. Right. With all the bodies flying. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:21 So, so, uh, when it comes to like coming back from injury, you just said it like the self-doubt. How do you deal with that where you're like, I know I should be moving this guy in front of me, but I can't, there's like a 10% of my strength is not there or I'm missing something. And how do you, because like, I would imagine that happens in literally every lock room,
Starting point is 01:45:42 the NFL and teams that are going through that, like a bunch of guys who get injuries, you think, oh, they're back, but you don't realize that it actually, they're not back until they, they go overcome that self doubt. You know, there's levels to, there's different categories of players in the NFL. As it pertains to response to injury, like you go watch Lane Johnson last week against Jalen Phillips. Lane Johnson's out there on one leg. Jalen Phillips is one of the premier rushers in the NFL. Lane Johnson's holding his own.
Starting point is 01:46:09 It's he in pain 100%. There's no self-doubt in there though. Yeah. Some of these guys are just wired differently. Joe Burrow on a calf look like shit the first few weeks but he's like, guys, I'm okay. Right. Like I'm Joe Burrow. Right. Patrick Mahomes, every week, seems as if he's limping. Yeah. Yeah. People are always around his feet, but he's got mental toughness. I was gifted physically.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I could do things that other guys can't do. I can roll out of bed and go jump over something or run through something, but when you get injured, when I got injured, it was devastating mentally and from a confidence standpoint. And when you get back before you even try to block somebody, you go through warmups, you go through high knees, you go through side shuffles.
Starting point is 01:46:51 And if you feel like shit during high knees, I promise you you'll feel even worse during football. So if this is your, like I'm thinking about Kyler Murray, 21 practice day, return with you. Yeah, he probably feels good in Indie and all that stuff. When things crank up, when he has to avoid a rush, when he's got to put that leg in the ground a different way, it may not feel the same. Yeah. Some guys just don't listen to that voice. I was a guy that did. Yeah. And when it happened repeatedly, four years in a row, you start to say,
Starting point is 01:47:21 Hey, man, let's just, yeah, that's a great answer. Let's just get out of here a lot. Yeah, I'll tell you something though, that makes you normal. Yeah, like, yeah, right. What you're describing right now is not a deficiency that you have. I think that's what 99.9% of people have
Starting point is 01:47:36 based off 500,000 years of evolution basically, is like, hey, if you're injured, then protect that injury, and it feels bad, then that shouldn't be something you continue to do. So it's like, it's if you're injured, then protect that injury. And it feels bad. Then that shouldn't be something you continue to do. So it's like, it's a normal thing that you have, but some guys are just like, okay, they can tune that out. And they're absolute psychos. Like Tyree killed is another guy that I feel like he gets injured every week for
Starting point is 01:47:56 like two plays and then gets back in the game. Yeah, he puts his head down. He thought he's sulk a little bit, but he's walking at nine miles an hour. Yeah, and he gets back to the hotel and he's like, just throw it to me again. Yeah. Your brother told me the funniest, like, he explained an injury in the NFL. And he said the worst part of getting injured in the NFL is that you get injured and then you go into the locker room and then you're sitting there in a ton of pain.
Starting point is 01:48:18 And there's a dude who's like 140 pounds wearing khakis and a team issued polo with his hands on his hips being like You're really not gonna get back out there and you just want to be like to shut the fuck up No, well, they don't even ask you that question big cat what they say is so are we gonna tape this or we're gonna What do you want a cast or? They didn't ask you they're like so you are gonna play how are we gonna get it done? Right, right, right and just being frustrated with like fuck. I need a second here Oh, go ahead. I was gonna say as an analyst like welcome to the big leagues you're you know big time CBS now your words carry weight behind them. I was actually
Starting point is 01:48:53 looking at your rankings of America's teams that you put out. Now this wasn't on CBS this was with green light on green light with your brother Chris. It says right here that you have the Houston Astros as America's team. So I went second. So this thing is the America's team has taken on a life of its own, right? Every week we get to pick who we think America is going to hang their hat on as their favorite team. And I thought, you know, with Michigan cheating, with Houston's history of cheating, I saw
Starting point is 01:49:21 the response to Michigan. It was a polarizing response, I would say. And I like Al Tuve, and I like the Ruffle feathers. And Chris is a Philly's fan, so I picked the Philly's in the Astros to play in the World Series, and then I picked the Astros to beat the Philly's. It looks like we're all wrong.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Yes, yes. You were right last year. But America's teams, they're fun. Yeah, yeah. I would say right now, America's team, in terms of the NFL, if you had to say which team It's the Lions the Lions are kind of there You still got to go chiefs though, right chiefs
Starting point is 01:49:54 Yeah, little Eagles Eagles, yeah, I would yeah, I would say I would say chiefs and now more so than ever the Niners because Brock Purdy's being doubted Sam Darnels playing this this week, but we think. Yeah, we think Brock Pertis being doubted. Nobody roots for a team harder than a team where the guy that's being doubted. Yeah, Brock Pertis, the guy. And yeah, I would say the Niners are on my America's team. The Vikings, they were frisky as a motherfucker.
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Starting point is 01:52:14 Guaranteed and now here's more kind of long Okay, I want to talk about some some teams right now And we just mentioned the chiefs you were in Kansas City for was a year, two years. Yeah, year. How the fuck is Andy Reed this good at coaching? I like we've been saying for the last few weeks, the chiefs have reached their final form of the dynasty patriots and that like they brought back Michael Harbin. They're also winning with defense now in Patrick Ruhomes isn't doing these shot plays like
Starting point is 01:52:43 they're they've morphed into a different team and they just keep winning like they didn't miss a beat. But if you look at these chiefs first chief five years ago, they are playing completely different ball. One thing that stands out to me about all successful coaches in this league is they all have that X factor or whatever it is that they do, they do it very well. Andy Reed understands the offensive line position as well as anybody I've played around. He also gives the keys to the card to Andy Heck, who is the offensive line coach. And that's a name that doesn't get talked about enough for the chiefs, but he's the run game coordinator as well. Andy Reed's in charge of screens. He talks to the lineman.
Starting point is 01:53:17 He knows the lineman better than anybody, better than, you know, better than anybody not named Andy Heck. Right. Which most hardhead coaches don't do that. They're not that involved with the offensive line. The offensive lines, the biggest group and numbers on the football field. With the chiefs, they're the most talented group on the football field, tackle to tackle the inside three, they're great.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Andy Reed knows that that's a strength of the football team. But in addition to that, they have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. In addition to that, they have Travis Kelsey. And to in addition to that they have Travis Kelsey and to your point Steve's back No, those defense 21 points are less in each of the first seven games They look patriots ish where they find new ways to win each year. It's crazy. How are they gonna do it? They don't have a receiver. Well, they got a great defense. Right. Okay. Now their defense You know, maybe they're defense struggle. Well watch Rishi rice go put up 140 one of these games right equal Harman's back
Starting point is 01:54:05 That's great huge punt return He's a guy that knows how to press the buttons on his team. He understands personalities He lets you go one thing he always said was Monday through Saturday. Those are my days Sundays your day what like that and I was like huh it makes sense his guys have fun Yeah, his guys have fun and they win do Do you think sometimes he gets too cute with it, especially in the red zone? Oh, especially when he's playing, it's kind of the same thing.
Starting point is 01:54:31 When you're playing against the Broncos on a Thursday night game, and then you're running like my question is crazy. Is that Andy Reader? Is that Matt and Maggie calling the plays in Denver? Well, because I feel like Andy did that before Matt and Maggie was calling the plays. Do you think that this recent game
Starting point is 01:54:44 was a Matt Nagy special? Uh, which one are you talking about the three wasted opportunities in the red area? That probably a Matt Nagy special. Yeah. But I have seen a lot of Andy Reed doing that type of stuff, especially in the red zone, where they're doing like a fake shovel pass, pass to a tight end. Look, there's a creative threshold though, where it goes from creative to cute. And I think we can agree on that, where it's like,
Starting point is 01:55:05 oh wow, that was really creative. I'll tell you what the threshold is, because I know exactly where that line is. If it works, it's creative. If it doesn't, it's cute. 100%. Yeah, 100%. And we saw that with Nags in Green Bay.
Starting point is 01:55:17 There was too many cute plays that didn't work. And then obviously they have the people and the installation right in Kansas City, where they can say, the person making the decision on this Q play is number 15 Patrick My homes the balls in good hand. I think it can actually not work and still be creative if it look like it could have worked. Yeah, if like a guy's open and you just missed the pass. Yeah, it's it doesn't it's dumb and cute Whenever you get like and the defense has to cover it. Yeah, when you get tackled for a loss, it's instant like you got to cute.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Also, if there's a pancake on the play. Yeah. If somebody on the offensive line, like steam rolls somebody, then it's not cute anymore. Even if it is like a double reverse, pass back to Patrick. That was powerful. I love that group.
Starting point is 01:55:59 That offensive line is awesome. They should, they should get all the kudos that they can because everybody else gets talked about on that team, whether it's Chris Jones or my homes or Kelsey or Taylor Swift, I mean the reality of it is you got to beat people up front and Creed Humphrey, Trace Smith, Jotuny, and then Taylor and Smith their tackles they've been great this year and there was widely publicized all the penalties on Joanne Taylor the right tackles spot, but they're figuring out what's legal in terms of alignment. Okay, so I like where we're going with this,
Starting point is 01:56:26 because when we talk about offensive lineman on the show, we usually, we try to spread out a little bit, but like every other show we'll talk about the left tackle or the right tackle. That's usually what we key on. Give us your top interior lineman on the offence side of the ball in football. I think if we're gonna go group,
Starting point is 01:56:43 I'm gonna go Kansas City. Okay. Group is Kansas City, because you're, I'm gonna go Kansas City. Okay. Group is Kansas City because you're only as strong as the guy next to you. I truly believe in that. And you mentioned tackles, that's great. One group of guards that I really like, or at least the guard tackle combination,
Starting point is 01:56:58 is in Chicago. I love it. Yeah. I love it. They've got a guy named Tevin Jenkins, who's an ass kicker. He is a mood center. He can say healthy. He's legit. Darnell Wright has been awesome. Has been great for
Starting point is 01:57:12 the Chicago Bears. And you put a big tie to that next to him and now you have a three man wall where you can just wash the backside of a run run play. And I think that's really underappreciated. I'm glad you asked about the inside guys. Yeah, we need to pay more respect to the guards. Bill Callahan's group, YoGees. Bill Callahan's group is great. He's a great coach. He is a great coach, everywhere. But how'd you guys let him out of the building?
Starting point is 01:57:33 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how we let him out. Like, it feels like everywhere that Bill Callahan goes, the running game improves instantaneously. Wait, so I have a question. Because Bill Callahan's a phenomenal coach. And we were making this argument the other day that Dante Skaarnakia might actually be the goat,
Starting point is 01:57:45 not Brady or Belicechek, because every time he coached cars. Patriots, offensive line, they were incredible. How are those two guys better than everyone else? Like, what is it, the technique or how they're teaching? Because you think a coach is a coach, a coach, yeah, obviously a head coach, there's a lot involved, but like, all these coaches in the NFL,
Starting point is 01:58:04 the offensive line coach They clearly know what they're doing, but there's still a couple guys that are that much better than everyone else Can I tell you the difference? Yeah, I'm very interested in this because I'm not they scarred I had a visit I had a visit with all these coaches. Okay pre draft Scar Nekia it was it was like old school. It reminded me of like a scene from Rudy where they're in their watching film, you know what I mean? Like old old school football.
Starting point is 01:58:29 I mean, they still run hills after practice. They hit a heavy bag after practice. People hate going to work in New England because they work so hard. Bill Callahan, I have my visit with him and Frank Pollock, who is the O'Line coach in Cincinnati, I believe now. They were in Dallas together with
Starting point is 01:58:45 Zach Martin. This is right before Zach Martin got drafted. They had Tyrant Smith and a few other guys. But they, Bill Callahan pulls up a play. He says, all right, we're running this protection. You know, it's third down. This is the linebacker responsible for. Are you blocking?
Starting point is 01:59:02 He essentially said, this guy comes down. Are you blocking? And he clapped like a second later. And he said, you can't play for me. Oh, damn, because you didn't answer right away. Right away. He said, quarterback said, you can't play for me. Oh, that love that. He left. And I did the rest of the meeting with Frank Paul. So to your question, I would say this, he doesn't have any room for bullshit. Right. Yeah. If you play for Bill Callahan, just like if you play for Bill Bella check, you better know
Starting point is 01:59:31 what you're doing. Right. Yeah. Think I was the promo code from Mugsy. Take. Yeah. No, he got it. He can't play for me.
Starting point is 01:59:39 No, he got it. He can play. I actually was off-sides. Yeah. That's it to be for. Chawanteller. That's such a, that's so funny. Like, all right, my, my right hand guy's going to handle this. You're an idiot.
Starting point is 01:59:48 There's some coaches that work you to death. There's some coaches that expect you to have such a high football acumen. And I think Calahans one of those guys, and I wish I got that question right. Oh, man. Did you answer it like after he left the room, like, stands with the jurors. I think I still don't know how to block. I think I just said the three with the jurors. I think I still don't know how to block. I think I just said
Starting point is 02:00:05 the three. The three technique. Yeah. All right. So another offensive line question related. Tyson Beigeant is obviously starting for the Bears right now. Justin Fields injured. I feel bad for Justin Fields because it feels like no matter what it's not going to work out. But this guy on Twitter who I've mentioned before, Robert Schmitz, he was the one who, who posted the initial video of Justin Fields taking a little bit slower in his dropbacks. Tyson Bageant is a lot quicker in his dropbacks. How important is that for an offensive line, even like a fraction of a second, does that make you guys that much happier where it's like he's getting to his spot so quickly we're going to be okay.
Starting point is 02:00:43 It's not necessarily the getting to the spot quickly, which does matter. I mean, you wanna get to your spot quickly as a quarterback so that you can then what, step up, or deliver the ball, or get out of the pocket. And seeing Baygent be on time, we always hear people say on schedule. Tyson Baygent was on schedule.
Starting point is 02:01:00 There was nothing that he saw that thwarted his focus away from the guys down the field. And you know, one of my pet peeves is when people say he keeps his eyes down. It's like, where the fuck are you going to look? I mean, he not only keeps his eyes down, he can make the throws when he's going outside the numbers. When he's forced off of his spot, he gets to his spot so quickly that he can see the danger coming. If somebody gets beat and
Starting point is 02:01:25 get off his spot quickly. If you are oozing back to your spot, then it becomes a race to get out of there. He has his feet planted early. The important thing is the balls out. The balls out, dude. I remember when Ross Awolson was planted Seattle and he was doing great, but he was running around like nobody's business. I would have hated to have played offensive line for Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Yeah. I would have given up a ton of sacks. Right. If, you know, when I played for Cutler, I knew the color was going to stand in the pocket and throw the ball. It may have been to the other team. It may have been our team, but at the end of the day, no sacks. Right.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Right. So if I'm, if I'm an offensive lineman, I'm happy to see what Tyson Beige has done for Chicago. And I know the receivers like him. And you can hear the guys on the sid lineman, I'm happy to see what Tyson Beijing's done for Chicago. And I know the receivers like him and you can hear the guys on the sideline say, man, this kid's got mox. Yeah, there's something about it. He's got some swag. I'm sure that he will have like his, you know, shoe dropping moment where it's like, oh, yeah, this is why he's division two and was undrafted. But it is crazy to watch the side by side video of him, just how quickly he gets back and how the offensive line can just look that much better.
Starting point is 02:02:27 I think we should, I wish we had ability, I wish we had brains to do advanced stats to be able to discern exactly when it is the quarterbacks fault because you guys get screwed. Like Russell Wilson is a perfect example. He would get sacked a lot, but a lot of them weren't his, like a lot of them weren't his offensive lines, a lot of them weren't as offensive lines.
Starting point is 02:02:45 Fall. It was him running into sacks. I think after five seconds, it should be considered a tackle for loss. Okay. I like that purely based on, yeah, because there's no chance that you can block a guy from five seconds. Right. I mean, it's like we watched Jalen Hartz, or, no, who was it?
Starting point is 02:02:58 Lamar Jackson run around. Ten seconds. Yeah. Ten seconds. And then these DBs are supposed to cover for ten seconds. That shouldn't be a completion against me. Yeah, you're right. We need to start doing this. Same advanced analytics. Our opinions on yes, it's advanced analyst, but it's slightly opinion.
Starting point is 02:03:13 It's just strictly the eye test that we give it, but we keep track of it. Yeah, how many belong to the quarterback, how many belong to the O'London. Yeah, it's like the Sam Howl conversation we had this morning. I mean, Sam Howl is on record to be said, and everybody said the Sam Howell's on record to break the sack record. Buy a lot. Buy a lot. Buy a lot. Buy a shitload. But stick with me here, the Washington commanders, they are top five in the NFL with time before pressure.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Right. Which tells me that Sam Howell is just not fucking throwing the ball. If you look at his sack numbers, the time in pocket before he gets sacked is, uh, it's astronomical. It's like one of the high he spends more time in the pocket than any other quarterback in the NFL.
Starting point is 02:03:53 All the other guys that are closely grouped in that position with him that spend like, I don't know, like three to six seconds before a sack occurs. There's some of the least sack quarterbacks in the NFL because they're moving around. They're keeping their eyes down. But Sam gets sacked a ton when he spends a long time in the pocket. So I kind of agree with you. It's not, it's not just the O line. It's the defense too.
Starting point is 02:04:13 The defense is not. Can we talk about that? The defense is not, actually, commanders might be America's team. Yeah. I don't think about it. Literally. Yeah, they are, they are America's team. They used to be great a while ago.
Starting point is 02:04:23 And everyone's lost faith in them. Got him. Got him, Harris. The guy that runs the show is always asleep. Ron Rivera. Can we do something about Rivera? What is he doing? What is Rivera doing on the sidelines?
Starting point is 02:04:33 Is he coaching? I think he's coaching. I think he's just, you know, he's dealing with personalities probably. Like you see last week Jonathan Allen's frustrated. I love that though. I love it too. And I love it too. And I've been in Jonathan Allen's shoes and I could totally have, you know, I can empathize
Starting point is 02:04:48 with what he's going through. But, you know, I look at this defense and they are just, you know, they're forged from steel up front. They're a group that has way too much talent to be doing the things that they're doing, giving up the points that they're giving up. And I think a lot of it falls on Jack D'Aurea. You can't just have four guys and expect those four guys to get home. In this iteration of the NFL, you need to manufacture pressure, you need to dial up blitzes, you need to put the pressure on the offer.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Yeah, when we were blitzing a couple weeks ago, it was working. We were getting home, we were putting pressure on them. And there are some times when that front four will get pressure. Like Chase Young has been better this year than he has. You're gonna get home with them. Montess sweat is a great player. Jonathan Allen, pain. I think those guys are all very good players. I don't put the blame on them for this. I think that in the schemes that they're running, they're asking their rookie cornerback,
Starting point is 02:05:32 Emmanuel Forbes, who's been benched now, to stay in out there and cover elite guys, one on one. And he's too aggressive to do that if pressure isn't getting home. If a guy's like trying to jump around, but your defensive end isn't going to get to the quarterback for another second, that's going to result in giving up 150 yards of AJ Brown every single time.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Yeah, it's just bad. It's bad on the defensive side. Okay, so off of this, dumb question, very dumb question. And you don't have to name names, but you've obviously been in a lot of locker rooms when it coaches lost the locker room. Is it something that like every player says to each other like, yeah, I think he's lost it. I think it coaches lost the locker room. Is it something that like every player says to each other? Like, yeah, I think he's lost it.
Starting point is 02:06:07 I think he's lost the locker room. Do you guys like send a message around? Yeah, I mean, where's the locker room? Yeah. Anyone have a locker room? Yeah, just look underneath the couch. Lockers on a milk cart. I just saw John Fox looking around lifting up rugs.
Starting point is 02:06:20 I think he's trying to find a locker room. You know, there was too many to remember, too many locker rooms lost. Yeah, you're like the, are you a locker room thief? Where you taking, you're like to bring you to triangle of locker rooms. I was like the toilet that gets passed down through a shitty house. They get sold to another owner. And he's like, yeah, you can shit on me. I'll be here.
Starting point is 02:06:40 That's how cows got seven locker rooms over the course of this purchase. Sit down. Yeah. It's you always as a player feel like you could win football games. I mean, regardless of how bad your team is, that's why they made a movie any given Sunday. It's real. I mean, that's real. But you can also feel like you have a coach that's going to put you in bad situation. Right. Right. And yeah, I mean, it's tough. Playing in the NFL's tough, you have a coach that's gonna put you in bad situation. Right, right. And yeah, I mean, it's tough. Playing in the NFL's tough, you have to have so many things right from quarterback to line play to defense to the staff. And we just didn't get it right in Chicago for a long time.
Starting point is 02:07:15 We had some things right. Yeah, pieces. We had pieces right. There were years where we had a great defense. There were years where we had explosive offense, but we couldn't get complimentary. Yeah, all that. I love complimentary football.
Starting point is 02:07:25 It's my favorite. And to your point, when you do get to that point in the season, where you're like, we're fucked. Yeah, it's like, who are we gonna get? Yeah, right. You kind of get excited. Yeah, right. Like new faces.
Starting point is 02:07:35 We don't want to be the number one pick, but who are we gonna get? Yeah, who are we gonna get? Do you get a little boost towards the end of the season? If you know that the coach isn't coming back, where it's like, okay, now it's time to play for my job. Yeah, I've got to go out there and I have to perform individually. Like, is there, can you feel that difference when guys start thinking about their own futures with the team as opposed to the team? Every day in the NFL is an opportunity to invest in your future.
Starting point is 02:07:56 I remember when it came Hicks first showed up to Chicago and I was like, I was doing the math, like a Kim Hicks. Okay, this goes a monster. I played him when he was in New Orleans and he was a load. I had to ice my neck in New Orleans, and he was a load. I had to ice my neck for like three weeks, but he came to the building and it became evident to me that practice wasn't gonna be as easy for me. And I said, there's two ways I can go about this. I can challenge this motherfucker every day
Starting point is 02:08:17 and we can both get better. Or I can just be the guy that brother-in-law is in practice and we're not gonna get any better. And our team's definitely not going to get any better. But, Kim and I made a decision to go at it every day. Our lockers are right next to each other. We hated each other in practice. But when we got to the locker room, we shared a can of dip.
Starting point is 02:08:34 We were buddies. I think that's the decision that all these guys and all these lockers have to make. I think about Denver and all these great players that they're potentially going to ship out. Yeah. And that's what I said, there's gonna be a showcase game for the top. Yeah, it gets the chiefs, yeah. This is a free agency tryout, this is a trade tryout.
Starting point is 02:08:51 You know what I mean? It's a combine. That's what the end of the season is, but it just, it weighs on you when it happens every year. Yeah. Year after year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:01 How sweet is it when you sign a big contract though? It's fucking awesome. Yeah. When you're sitting there eating your oatmeal and they're like it's done six year 50 million dollar And the guys that next year's like hey bunny, let's you bunny It makes all the shitty days worth it But but then you get your money and you're like but we're still like we still can't win When you when you got the contract, did you cry? I don't know if I cried We're still like we still can't win. But I still feel bad in the morning sometimes. When you when you got the contract, did you cry?
Starting point is 02:09:27 Um, I don't know if I cried. I was just juiced. I was just juice. Yeah. It was it was funny because it was after my third year. Um, and the bears don't read. They don't extend people early. And I remember a good way to do business.
Starting point is 02:09:43 Yeah. Johnson's going through that right now. I now. Yeah, pay that guy. Yes. Pay Jaylen Johnson. Lose the orange leaves. Pay Jaylen. Yes. But I remember I was in my I had made three straight pro bowls. They had just moved me to tackle my third year. And I was like, so the fuckery is beginning. Right. You know what I mean? And I had a five year deal with a club option for a fifth year because I was a first rounder. And I remember my dad said to me, he was like, things are going great. You're doing awesome. You're blocking your ass off, but you
Starting point is 02:10:11 got to get your deal done. Now, he was like, it's not about the big number. It's about the guaranteed number. Get it done now. And I remember like they've never done a deal. And my agent at the time, Marvin Demoff did a great job and made it happen. And I remember we went to joint practice and practice against the patriots and they had Jamie Collins who at the time was the Akeem Hicks of Linebackers. He's an ass kicker. And I remember Joey, our cap guy, was on the sideline with pace before practice, before the week of practice. I walked up to him and this was right when we were opening contract talks.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I walked up to Joey and I said, how much does he make? And he told me I said, fuck and watch this. And the whole week, I was like, just trying to find Jamie Goldz. Oh my gosh. And I got signed soon after that. That's awesome. And, but the point of this is, you sign early,
Starting point is 02:11:00 and then you get hurt, you're still taking care of it. You don't sign early, then I could be looking at three straight pro-balls and just living on a rookie deal the rest of my life. Right. So kudos to my dad who had the foresight to be like, no, no, no, get it done. Smart guy.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Do you guys ever look sideways at a teammate that's holding out, that's making a big deal in the media about their contract, or is it usually just like, hey, we understand the business we're in, we'll support a guy, yeah, be great to have him out here practicing with us. I don't really remember anybody holding out. Do you?
Starting point is 02:11:29 No. It does seem like the one thing that all the players are aligned with every locker room is like never talk about someone else's money. Leave, yeah, stay out of the. It happened a little bit in Kansas City, though, with Chris Jones this year. Yeah, remember that?
Starting point is 02:11:42 No, yeah. Well, I wasn't there for that, but I think everybody in that locker room understands that Chris Jones is the reason for, I remember that. Yeah. Well, I wasn't there for that, but I think everybody in that locker room understands that Chris Jones is the reason for the season on offense. Yeah. Yeah, like, hey, whatever a sack nation wants, a sack nation gets, and he got it, and he's come back, he's had a sack in every game.
Starting point is 02:11:54 He's in sack nation. That's his, that's like, he's the, you know, he's the commander of. Oh, I like sack nation. I thought that was because his ball sack rupshared through his compression choice. It would be the pain team. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever problem with that, with I think it was a big team. Yeah, but yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Did you ever problem with that, with that call? Mine doesn't hang. Yeah. Yours didn't never broke through a pair of. I hear the word flop a lot and I'm like, where? It was cold in that locker room. AC works in Washington. But I gotta say, you know, it's frustrating.
Starting point is 02:12:20 And we did the episode, I remember I called you and I was like, guys, we gotta do that. I gotta get in front of it. You were like it was actually I felt so proud that we had made it to a point Where it's like if a dick accidental dick pit comes out we are the PR team was that what it was It's like PR. All right. We got a call. We got to get our cracks at you are our aces on this We're gonna call BFT and big. I I mean, that's off. I mean, think about it. It's like you're one Google away from seeing a, you know, a stack of nickels.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Yeah. Anytime. So I just think about, I think about all the people that never work in press short. Yeah. Never sweat through a pair of pants. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Never ran around for four hours. Yeah. You're an athlete. I'm no world beater. Yeah, but I will say, you know, yeah, that was about a core race. Yeah, it was. All right. That's one thing I think a lot of women don't understand
Starting point is 02:13:12 is that any given moment of any given day, your penis can virtually, yeah, wildly, yes, right now I'm a tick-tax, right now sitting and talking to you. Can I go on an indoor end? Can you imagine to announce our dick sizes of the given moment? I actually think I'm having a good dick moment right now. No, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:13:31 I wore the wrong jeans for a good dick moment. Bunksy jeans actually help with that. Yeah, they do. They do. They gave a nice little moral. Page jeans needs to fix their, cocksage. I have a question about podcasting life, because obviously you and your brother doing a great job green light
Starting point is 02:13:47 PFT and I have both been on multiple times awesome podcast Maybe not exactly about the podcast, but you guys are playing in a softball league you won That's fucked up That's fucked up if I was playing in like adult men softball and the long brothers show up and you're just ripping We're effort guys. We're not athletes, but you are ripping balls down the line big lefty hitter Didn't you get drafted by the MLB? Yeah, white socks where you just said we're not athletes I was a pitcher you were a professional baseball one thing that all let me do in softballs They're hard and I was a left hand at 397 so I'm like you I'm playing one handed out here
Starting point is 02:14:23 And I was a left handed through 97 so I'm like you I'm playing one handed out here To have the remo minutes were guys have been like wait this is not what I signed up for no because you know If you're from an area like Virginia you understand that the baseball is one of those things that everybody plays And if you're not playing lacrosse you have a baseball bat in your hand and there's a lot of skilled dudes and I don't know If you know about this about softball, but I mean there there's kind of a ceiling to the shaking. It's true. It's true. So the whole guy who knows where to place the ball can be just as good. When you're playing a team with a bunch of roofing shirts and baseball pants, you're like, we could be in trouble here.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Right. Right. You know, when six of the wives are behind the home play, smoking six, you're like, these guys are good. Dude, it's always, it's always when the opposing team has like a whole posse there and it's the biggest point of their week. I remember prime time. Yeah, when we would play and it would be like, oh shit, they got a cooler, they got kids
Starting point is 02:15:14 there. Kids, these people, this is their day. Nine o'clock first pitch. There's babies. Yeah, right. You're always in trouble with that. You're always in trouble with that. Yeah, some of the wives have just like a little bit of face paint underneath their eyes,
Starting point is 02:15:25 like their moms at the little world series when they show up. You don't invite your whole family out if you suck it. My father-in-law came one time and you know, he, you know, I was like, I can't wait to, we wouldn't play golf that day. And I was like, well, I didn't hit it well. Golf, I can't wait till you see me hit it softball. You know what I mean? Like, it's way different.
Starting point is 02:15:40 It's great. I hit it every time. I think I grounded out twice and had two infield pop flies. And he was like, you guys are very good. So like, I'm a firm believer and don't bring your fucking family. Because you can lie about that. Yeah, right. Right. Like, I crushed it today. How is your golf game going? I've seen some video. Did you quit? I quit.
Starting point is 02:15:58 What made you quit? I reached out to Frankie Barreli about playing in the bar stool class. It was just, I got gussed. That's bullshit. That's the pinnacle of my career will be potentially losing about playing in the bar stool classic and it was just, I got gussed. That's bullshit, Frank. That's the pinnacle of my career will be potentially losing some balls in the bar stool classic. Would you make it come back, if Frankie, by the grace of God permitted you to play? Yeah, I might have to go through like rigs or something.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Yeah. Well, I mean, you're gonna have a simulator here and you're gonna be back. I'm a huge, so I'm a simulator golfer. That's what I am. Okay. You're always 10 steps from a refrigerator. You know what golfer. That's what I am. You're always 10 steps from refrigerator You know what I mean? Yeah
Starting point is 02:16:28 There's a lot of things you can have in the sim that'll that'll make your day a lot more enjoyable. Are you still race car driving? I do I do some of the simulator stuff on I racing. It's a lot of fun. I haven't done it as much Dad life has taken some of those hours You really feel like a shithead when you are playing video games is a debt. And you're like, I do feel like a shithead. Yeah, real shithead. Real shithead.
Starting point is 02:16:49 I feel bad in my airplane simulator when Blake is in the next room just wanting at me. Like he wants to play and I'm like, I can't, I'm being a bad dog. I'm always Blake. He's huge, he's like 60 pounds now. Almost six months old. It's almost your size.
Starting point is 02:17:01 That's nice, that's funny. That's funny. Actually, no, think that's a compliment. Because I've been feeling kind of fat recently. Really? Yeah, I've been. That's funny. Actually, no, that's a compliment because I've been feeling kind of fat recently. Yeah, I've been feeling. You're all a little fat. Thank you. I appreciate that. But the shirtless picture of us, me, Big Cat and Jersey Jerry behind, behind Max on the couch came out. There's just a lot of unflattering angles. You know how the internet is. Yeah, they're mean. It happened. It's best season for guys with tits. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Layers sweatshirt season. It's my favorite day of the year when that when that temperature drops. Yeah. Like, oh, you won't see even if I'm sweating. Yeah. I'll keep the vest. Yeah. You won't see the contours of my body for six months. Nope. This rules. Yeah. All right. Last question. This has been awesome. Kyle, you're the best. You will be back a few times. So, uh, also, well, I guess this is going to come out after. But when Kyle does come, he's going to stream with us as well. So we're going to watch Thursday night football together. We should ask him that. So what's your official prediction for Thursday night football? Oh, the bills are going to win. Okay. I mean, this is going out after.
Starting point is 02:17:56 Bills are going to win at home. The bills won. If it's going out at day already one, the bills won. Dominated without Ed Oliver. I think it all over. Not playing. Okay. As first reported by Cal long. Hmm. If at all, if I'll, I mean, yeah, the bills are going to win. Okay. Josh can't look. Josh and those guys can't look the way they've looked for a number of three weeks in a row. No, yeah, just can't happen. All right. Last question. Robac question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take Q Zips polos hoodies joggers shorts everything rowback dot com promo code take so tell me if I'm stupid. The dolphins have a game against Patriots this week.
Starting point is 02:18:34 They have a game against the chiefs next week. The dolphins are on fraud watch week. Put them on fraud watch. Is there such a thing as a look ahead game in the NFL? I know it exists in college. If there ever was one, it's going to be this one. Yeah. To Miami who's got to travel across an ocean
Starting point is 02:18:48 and play against the best team in the world. Right. So I would say yes, but the issue with the offense is just be patient. Take what the defense has given you. Yeah. Don't try, don't try to do too much because you know New England's going to be laying in weight.
Starting point is 02:19:00 Yeah. Because I just, I love those spots. And college really does work every single time. If you just like, Oh, they got a big game next week. Okay, cool. I'm going to feed them this week. Yeah. But it doesn't it's too much buttoned up professional in the professionalism in the NFL. Then I'll have look ahead games. Yeah. I mean, you're reminded too much of what the task is at hand. Right. Right. So the college coaches need to do
Starting point is 02:19:21 that more. I also just love fading a college team after they have a big win because you just know they're gonna party non-stop. Yeah, Colorado. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever go overseas? Yeah, I did. I got fired on my way back from London. What do you mean? I played like shit and I had to sit across from the Ags and his wife and they were essentially like Is it the Raiders game? Yeah, I'm gonna pee my pants. Can I go pee really? Yeah, all right, well, I'm in the interview. Kyle Long, the best. He started moving and I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:48 The only problem is we don't know where the bathrooms are because it's office. Oh, yeah, you have to go like around. All right, Shane, get him to a bathroom. Kyle Long, everyone. Thank you, Kyle. Yeah. Thanks, Kyle.
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Starting point is 02:21:35 They will protect you. Okay, Fire Fest of the Week, Henry. You've been hung over since Monday. I've been hung over since Monday, although I did. I went to a black arcs game. I've been kind of weaning myself off and by weaning myself off is just like having a few beers every night. So I'm not just dead.
Starting point is 02:21:52 That's the right strategy. Yeah. I know we got the weekend. We're at the weekend. We're at the weekend. So let's give myself a little. Yeah, next week. So let's talk about it real quick, Hank,
Starting point is 02:22:01 because I feel like this is, you've had this before. You turned 30 this summer. It's a bitch. Yeah. It's a bitch. When you drink for a full weekend, and then you don't feel normal until like Thursday afternoon, yeah. I mean, these were these were, you know, two, two best friends getting married.
Starting point is 02:22:19 So they're late nights with the boys, travel mix in the middle of it. And then obviously with the new office and stuff, there's been a lot going on, so. It's bad, I mean, it all Monday, all Tuesday, I was just in a fog. Not so kind of in. You do have the only cure for it. Max cured me, I mean, there was a lot of good stuff happening though, like Max and the Philly's losing.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Oh, that was great. It was disappointed, kind of like content-wise, it's like yes, this content, so good, I'm happy for us. The max. We got so high up in the max. We hotbox. This office is amazing. Being here finally is amazing. Obviously, there's a lot to come, but that's all exciting stuff. We're going to come. We're going to come hard. It's come already. A little bit. We come. It's like pre, it is really a dream. It's unreal, it's just, we're so close. And when I'm not gonna say we're so close but so far,
Starting point is 02:23:12 but it's like once everything is fully done and finished, we're gonna be. Golf simulator going in on Monday. Buzzing, yeah. Thanks for being working so hard in the golf simulator. It's so hard. I'm so excited. So excited, going to mass in this weekend
Starting point is 02:23:24 and super excited about that. What are you doing? What are you doing tomorrow, Hank? Probably gonna come here for a little bit. in the golf simulator. So hard. I'm so excited. So excited. Go to mass in this weekend. Super excited about that. What are you doing? What are you doing tomorrow, Hank? Probably going to come here for a little bit. And then what? Hey, golf. Oh, wait, but what month are we in?
Starting point is 02:23:34 It's October. September. September was the no golf month. No, I know, but we were doing once the office opens. We're like work and work and work and work and work. And so that way we can golf on Fridays in the summer except for the one Friday you owe us four weeks seven. Office is an open. What are we sitting right now? We can't half of the office is an open. We can't produce content from the office besides as podcasts. If you guys want to come
Starting point is 02:23:58 record tomorrow, I'm down. Okay. Great. What time? 9 am. I was thinking more like two, two o'clock. Hank, we'll be busy at that time. Good luck at your golf game. Thank you. Yeah, good luck. Golf game. Can't be me. Are you involved with them?
Starting point is 02:24:13 Yeah, yeah. I think I'll play a quick 18. Exactly. We'll get some content out of it. And then yeah, my next, Wow. The next, my next fire fest, just the sentence itself is what
Starting point is 02:24:24 I realized is the true fire fest is a 30-year-old I don't know how we cost you Yeah, wait where we're where where you going to hall I got a fight to I don't need I got invited to a Halloween party shit. I got invited not really like someone else told me about it But I kind of want to go. But you also can't go to Halloween party without Halloween costume, but also like I don't want to. I got an idea for you. Harry Potter.
Starting point is 02:24:51 No. Oh, similar. Max, you still got those overalls. Yeah. I can read in your fucking face. You're like, I have an idea. I can see in the side of your eye That's a weak old great idea
Starting point is 02:25:08 That's a great idea That is a great idea Max we're gonna need those overalls buddy You're crazy if you don't think I threw those out the second Alright so that's gonna get in the next one We're gonna need your fucking big jumbo pants No you're not getting shit I'm just gonna look up
Starting point is 02:25:24 You just show look up. You just showed up. I love ridiculous. Philly's overalls. Nothing is working. I can get the wig, throw some pigtails in there. You should do it, Hank. And just scream and cry.
Starting point is 02:25:37 And say you're not crying, but cry. Yeah, that's a great idea. Great idea. That's firefests cured. All right, great, great. Bullshit, I knew a great idea. Great, that's FireFest cured. All right, great, great. Bullshit, I knew, I knew. Ah! What? Okay, PFT or FireFest?
Starting point is 02:25:53 What do I do for you? I don't know. What the hell is working? My FireFest, well, we know one of them, which is a telephone pull hit by car. The other FireFest is similar in that I'm having a bad week in parking lots in general. So there was that incident that happened on Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:26:13 On Monday, there's a McDonald's next to my house. I like to stop in sometimes, get a little Mccaffé going in the morning, maybe get a McMuffin, gonna steak egg and cheese biscuits sometimes. I'm cr, I, uh, I'm cruddle. Oh, I love the sauce. It's a mackrittle. Yeah, really good.
Starting point is 02:26:29 I'm like Jerry Jones and poor extra salt on it. But I pulled into the parking lot, parked my car, and what I thought was a McDonald's parking spot because it's in a McDonald's parking lot. Turns out the McDonald's parking lot is shared with I think another local business and I was not a lot to park my car there. I went into the store got my meal came out and there was a giant boot on my car They booted my car into like five minutes outside. Yes, so I see is this after the accident? No, it's before It's before the accident so I see the boot on the car, right?
Starting point is 02:27:05 And there's a security guy, or he's dressed in a uniform that looks like a police uniform. And he just hands me a slip of paper. And it says, like, do not move your car, call this number. And the guy just turns around, gets into his car, drives away. And I was like, I was like, hey, how do I get this boot off my car? Like, I got places to be. I'm a mover and a sh like, hey, how do I get this boot off my car? Like I got places to be. I'm a mover and a shaker.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Right. How do I get out of this parking lot right now? And he just looks at me, doesn't respond. Chooses to not respond, gets in his car and drives away. Oh, I get into a noober to go to the office. And I call the number and the person on the other end says, yeah, there's supposed to be a second guy in that parking lot that you can pay to get your boot off right now.
Starting point is 02:27:46 What a scam. And I'm like, wait, what? Because the first guy just got into his car and either he is unable to speak or he just chose not to speak to me and left. And they're like, no, you can pay it on site. So I go back and the second person came up and I was like, what's going on here?
Starting point is 02:27:59 Why can't I move my car? How'd you boot? He's like, yeah, you're not supposed to park here. There's a sign over there in the corner. That says you're not supposed to park here. In the a sign over there in the corner That says you're not supposed to park here in the space or in the corner They're the sign is in the corner. It's not on the space. That's crazy I the sign says like from this point to that point. Oh, that's you can't park here And it's like almost an intentionally small sign. So I asked the guy I'm like so how can I get this and he's like
Starting point is 02:28:21 Well, I can take a payment right now. And I thought the whole time that this was like Chicago parking police, it's not, it's like a private company that does like, instead of doing a tow truck, it's a tow truck business that didn't want to have to pay money for a tow truck. They just got like one boot that they just put on people's cars. They're like, hey, you owe me 150 bucks
Starting point is 02:28:38 to take this boot off. So I pay the guy 150 bucks, get the boot off, and I'm able to drive away. I'm still like 50% thinking it's just a scam, and these people weren't even supposed to be there, and they just show up to parking lots and do this. But they got my money. I need to make sure that they don't steal
Starting point is 02:28:54 anymore of my money. Yeah, I did pay. They also wanted to see my driver's license. And I don't know why not the police needed to see my driver's license. Sounds like a scam. Sounds like I might have gotten hoesed on this one I'm like I just gave me your card information and all of your name and address
Starting point is 02:29:11 I swipe my card. It's the New York address. I still haven't changed. It'll be that's good It'll be good eight years before I change my idea. I just got a New York idea So I probably got scammed either that or it's just a crock of shit and wasted an entire morning trying to hate shit, but yeah, I'm just having a bad week in parking lots. I need to stay out of parking lots. Yeah, you do. Probably of my entire life.
Starting point is 02:29:34 That's, that sucks. Yeah, quite a fire fast. Shit. Okay. How are they allowed to do that? They're just like, they like, walk up to your car. I'm sorry, you can't drive anywhere now.
Starting point is 02:29:45 I'm sure if you were like a lawyer and could hit up with some information and then you're gonna more. Yeah, like you could probably get them to take it off for free, but you'd have to do a lot of haggling. A lot of loyering. Am I insane to think that I could pass the bar exam?
Starting point is 02:29:57 No, without studying. Yes. That's probably irrational confidence. Because I'm good at taking tests. I'm not, what type of questions do they have? Yes, very hard. It I'm not type of questions. Yeah, it's very logic It's not happened logic. Yeah, it's very hard. I did do I did two sample questions and I got them both right Is it just like multiple choice like crime or no? Yes Crime or no murder. Yeah, is it crime find a thousand dollars on the ground?
Starting point is 02:30:21 Get it back. Yeah, good answer. Yeah, no, I think I could, I think if I did a bar exam, I could pass all of it except for the essay part. Your trigger, but it's so many lawyers. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. What? I'm pretty sure the test is 50-50. Is it, no, it's like, like four multiple choice answers. No, I'm saying the, like how it's weighted,
Starting point is 02:30:42 the scoring, like half of it is multiple choice and half is essay. So. Yeah, it's right. Yeah, I don't want to do the essay part because that requires like a lot of detailed explanation of my thoughts But I'm good at this site of bunch of cases. I'm good at reading Test question and figuring out what they're trying to ask me and answering it like I'm good at not studying for things for the bar like they lock themselves in a library for like yeah but they might be overthinking it I think PFT is right yeah yeah people go to law school yeah it's like a lot of people yeah they waste their money I can pass it right now I don't think so I don't know but I like the confidence I mean there's also no way to prove that you're wrong do you become a lawyer if you pass the bar exam people don't go to medical school and they save lives all the time. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:31:27 CPR. CPR. You know CPR? I know of it. Yep, okay. That's a fact. Okay, my firefests. Stick that.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Could you coach an NFL game right now? Not well. Yeah, I could be a terrible lawyer right now. Wait, no, but no, but you're saying passing a test. Like if you, if I had to pass a test of coaching an info game I would fail. I've watched enough SVU. I think to pass the bar exam. That's what I'm getting out here. Okay What are you guys shaking your heads at? Max thought he was joking about the bar. I said no. PFC's been talking about this for weeks. You really think so you can pass it
Starting point is 02:32:01 He could the multiple choice bar then take it. Okay If you're talking about it for multiple weeks and pass it. He could. The multiple choice parts. So then take it. Okay. If you're talking about it for multiple weeks and take it, I'll do it. I'm gonna get signed up. No, it won't. It's also like a twofold base. No, it's gonna be more getting commenter soon.
Starting point is 02:32:15 No, you have to do the whole thing. You can't say only the multiple choice parts. That's what I just said though. Like I could not pass the written part. But that's part of the bar. Correct. But I could pass the multiple choice part. That's what I just said though. Like I could not pass the written part. But that's part of the ball. Correct. But I could pass the multiple choice part. I could get 200 points in the SATs.
Starting point is 02:32:30 Yeah. I mean, but like that's not taking, like doing well in the SATs. My entire argument is that I think, I think I'm delusional. I understand that I'm probably wrong, but I do, I have a rational confidence that I could pass the multiple choice part.
Starting point is 02:32:44 You're good at writing it. Don't tell yourself short. I don't, but I, it I have a rational confidence that I could pass the multiple choice part. You're good right, Adir. Don't tell yourself short. I don't, but I, it's like open-ended questions. I would just turn it back on them. I'd be like, this question is, is illegitimate. You have no authority to ask me these questions because I do not recognize you as the bar exam administrator. Yeah, I don't have the slightest clue what type of questions could be. I have no fucking. So I I'm gonna see it up now. I
Starting point is 02:33:09 think written is only 30%. Oh, okay, that's a passing grade. But you have to go perfect. It's a hundred. It's 200 multiple choice questions. Okay, ready. A man is sitting on a beach chair peacefully and in a relaxed meditative state when a truck racing on the sand ran down a sunbathing elderly person. The man said out loud, oh God, look what the truck driver did. The man driving that truck was racing and going about a hundred miles per hour. Someone called 911.
Starting point is 02:33:35 A woman who is sitting on the beach nearby, but facing the other way, heard the man's outcry. See, when the case comes to a trial, will the court allow both the man and the woman to testify about the man's utterances? Yes, both the man and women, uh, woman and man can testify because it is an excited utterance exception to the hearsay rule that goes to the material issue of the case. Yes, because this is not hearsay, and it is not being entered for the truth of the statement by either witness so they can both testify. No, neither of them can testify
Starting point is 02:34:08 because the man was impaired due to being too relaxed for his meditation. That's the only thing that would repeat the utterance of an impaired witness. No, neither can testify because the utterance do not fit any of the exceptions to the hearsay rule. I think the answer is neither of them can testify, which one?
Starting point is 02:34:35 No, neither of them can testify because the utterance not fit any of the exceptions to the hearsay rule, or no, neither of them can testify because the man was impaired due to being too relaxed. I wanna say that one, but I don't think that's the right answer. Okay, so I'm gonna say D. I'm gonna say, yeah, either number one. Yes. Oh, okay. C. A. Okay.
Starting point is 02:34:50 Okay. Do you have to see the last two Zen ones? Yeah, but that's one of 70. Yeah, exactly. I could go 69 for 70. The last two Zen ones in February and July. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Illinois bar exam. All right. A small town police officer pulled over a driver for speeding. He believed that the driver was acting irritable and fidgety, but he had no articulable reason to think anything was wrong. He searched the car anyway and found two cartons
Starting point is 02:35:15 of freshly canned peaches, which were owned by the driver's neighbor and reported stolen off reports 24 hours earlier. Authorities charged him with theft under the state criminal code. His motion to suppress the evidence because of an unlawful search was denied on appeal with the appellate court likely reverse the lower court decision denying the motion to suppress. Yes, because the search warrant was unconstitutional due to the officer having no probable cause that would justify searching the car. Yes, because when a car is pulled over for speeding, the officer must always
Starting point is 02:35:46 obtain a search warrant prior to making any search. No, the stop and search were within the normal bounds of proprietary for speeding stop. No, because driver being fidgety is enough for a probable cause full search of the view. How relaxed was this? It's pretty easy. This is a or b. It's a or b. It's, it's no. It's not because the driver did not to can you read me a and B again? Yes, because the search was unconstitutional. Do the officer having no
Starting point is 02:36:09 probable cause that would justify searching the car. Yes, because when a car is pulled over for speeding the officer must always obtain a search warrant prior to making any search. It's a because if it he can also search the car. If the driver gives him consent to search the car. So I don't know if they gave him consent. Hey, I'm gonna say, hey, but I don't recall any point in that question. You were right. You were right. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 02:36:30 There we go. I'm one for one in my last one. You're one for two. One for one in my last one. All right, last one. Okay. A pet breeder is in the business of breeding calves at his cattle ranch where he has a stable
Starting point is 02:36:40 of prolific cows who are very fertile. Oh, who? Newborn calves need constant attention and care. One day, one of the employees inadvertently leaves the fence door open and a newly born calf breaks free and goes to his neighbor's land. The breeder went to the neighbor's land to retrieve the calf for its safety and to make sure it was unharmed. However, he was arrested on a trespass charge after entering the land.
Starting point is 02:37:04 The breeder appealed, will the court dismiss this charge? Yes, because he had a limited privilege to enter the land to prevent harm to his cattle. Yes, because the tender pet doctrine allows temporary entry to retrieve baby animals. That's a pretty specific doctor. No, because the neighbor had a right to keep any living shadows that cross onto his, it says shadows. Yeah. I don't know what that is. Yeah. It's like, it's a livestock. Okay.
Starting point is 02:37:28 The cross onto his land, no, because his status is a breeder made him unqualified for a limited license. Okay. So I think this one is also A or B. I think you're within your rights to retrieve your wandering livestock. It might be a hazy hay with the... It might be B because B was, I think, a very specific one. Petroctrine, yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Yeah. I'm going to go one pet Choctaw now. Yeah, I'm gonna go with B Hey, okay, well, that was a has a Well, I narrowed that one down to right. I was Passing I was technically what do you have to get to pass? Better than one for three listen, I'm not here to be a farm lawyer. I'm here to be a cool lawyer. I think we should actually, what we should do is you should take it, we could see if we take it
Starting point is 02:38:11 and we'll just, I'll read all the answers on livestream and let people guess. Yeah, it sounds good. Let's just do a subathon. PFT takes the bar. You can do it during the 24 hours. Yeah. Well, let's see the thing is,
Starting point is 02:38:23 I want to be able to read the, that's part of, yeah, I'd be able to like deduce the test and what they're asked. Yeah, well, let's see the thing is I want to be able to read the that's part of yeah No, you're like to do is to test and what they're asking right right you have to get But we could set it up that people can see the question while you're reading it to 66 out of 400 I'll take a during the 24 hours. Wait. I only have to get 266 out of 400 right That's so many questions. Oh, I could do this. Oh, especially if I studied for it Yeah, but so many questions the big port like 30 if I if I study the SATs, I literally blacked out half way through and just did CCC's like I could I could not sit still for the long. You're your own declaration. You could pass the bar multiple choice portion.
Starting point is 02:38:57 Yeah. Yeah. If I studied, I could definitely do it. Okay. And then I'd be all your lawyers. Well, no, you would have to. I'd sue everyone. The multiple choice. You could be a lawyer, but you have to every piece of advice you give has to be a multiple choice. Yeah. Yeah. I'd ask the objection, your honor. Can you read my objecting? A in the witness reason, pass the full bar witness, repraised a ABCD or E all the above. Yeah. This is the best Morgan and Morgan segment we've ever done. It is. It is. All right, my fire fest. Uh, I haven't been sleeping. I had so we've been doing a shitload of stuff. I haven't been sleeping Tuesday night. We got home after we
Starting point is 02:39:37 all smoked that max of one on it was fucking good. Uh, and I went to bed. And I so every time I get home, Stella's sleeping in my spot and I put her in her dog bed next to me on the floor and all of a sudden three four times the middle night So I went sleep at one I get up at 6.30 four times in that time frame the TV just turned on and I couldn't figure it out And I have a remote on my phone so I kept on turning it off So I literally like I'd fall fall asleep, get in deep sleep, TV would turn on, what the fuck? Give it a ghost.
Starting point is 02:40:10 Well, no, I woke up the next morning and I was like, still, you're ready to go out and she got up and the remote was literally under a ass. So every time she moved, so I just didn't sleep that night, not her fault, my fault, but that sucked. That's the worst when you're behind on sleep, and then you're expecting a particular night to be an awesome night of sleep, full eight,
Starting point is 02:40:29 and then it just doesn't happen. Oh, I have to fully, I don't know what a full eight means. I've gotten full eight long time. You haven't been full eight? I've not been full eight in a long time. The, my other fire fest is we're going to Madison this weekend. Oh, go, anyone wants to come to the live show, it's going to be an awesome, awesome time.
Starting point is 02:40:48 It is 4.30 PM. Kickoff is at 6.30. So you got more than enough time. 10 North Charter Street. It is a 10 minute walk to Camp Randall. So come out. It's going to be awesome. But boys, I believe that the badgers are going to upset
Starting point is 02:41:03 and shock the world. And I know that this is how it happens to me where there's no reason for me to believe this other than the fact that ready for this Jake, 20 years ago, this month, a freshman big cat stormed the field when Wisconsin, as I think a double digit underdog beat number three Ohio State. Oh, and 20 years later, and a double digit underdog is playing number three Ohio State. Oh, and 20 years later. 20 years later. And a double digit underdog is playing number three Ohio State. Wow.
Starting point is 02:41:30 Yeah, so I'm gonna get consciousness. And what happened the last time you went to Madison for an athletic event? You wanna share the big 10 chip? Yeah, what did you do afterwards? I sure, so on the field. Want to know in your last one storms. Yeah, so this is the problem though,
Starting point is 02:41:44 because I don't think they're actually going to win, but I'm going to work myself into a frenzy and be like, yeah, it's going to happen. Mm-hmm. What did it do? It's going to be incredible. Hey, do you want to get, it's Halloween, night game, camp randal, vibes are great.
Starting point is 02:41:58 Luke Fickle was on the other side line that night, telling Robert Reynolds to choke Jim Sorge out. I don't know if Luke fickle actually did that. Destiny. It's destiny. Hank, do you want to get a quick pump in when we get to Madison? Sure. Strength and condition go chest us.
Starting point is 02:42:13 Yeah. Okay. I mean, I did say I was off to Tuesday, but I'll, I can break it up. Just a quick pump. Yeah. Quick pump. Just get juiced up. It's squat over.
Starting point is 02:42:22 Yeah. You have to do some squats. Yeah. Okay. Jake, squat tober. Yeah, just do some squats. Yeah. Okay. Jake your firefest Yeah, this is pretty well documented, but we haven't talked about it on the show yet when you guys Took your shirts off the other day I was very uncomfortable it brought me back to my days of shirts versus skins where I prayed I was on shirts and It was take you at the corner. You had the best visual out of all of us. No, it was bad too.
Starting point is 02:42:47 You were, if for people to know the picture, it's on our stream. Yeah, on our streams. I don't know if we could put it in the YouTube, whatever, it's late. So I'm not gonna make everyone do more editing. But Jake, I've never seen a person sitting
Starting point is 02:43:01 while also running away. Yeah, I was, and that's what he was doing. He was running away while sitting. And that's what he was doing. He was running away while sitting. And the amount of tweets I got, like, take your shirt off. You're the reason the Phillies lost. You are.
Starting point is 02:43:11 You are. I apologize to Max because the last two players to get out were named Jake and Marsh. So, oh, yeah, that's right. Oh my God. So between that and the shirt, it really was my fault. Oh my. I said he could blame me. You made the right choice though.
Starting point is 02:43:24 Because with those couches, there's no good angle. You can probably have that. Also, I didn't get socks up into the pre-pressure. You didn't cave. Yeah. You're your own man. Getting socks up in the peer pressure roots, especially when it's tarps off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Yeah. Like, whenever it's like, oh, if your friend tells you to jump off a bridge, we'd do it. Yeah. If everyone is. What football game was that last year where just a couple guys took their shirts off and by the end of the game The entire section was filled it was like in the deck. Yeah, we do is with their shirts off. Oh, yeah Indiana. Yeah, I mean peer pressure gets a bad rap like peer pressure kind of rocks because it means like all your friends
Starting point is 02:43:57 Peers probably having fun. Yeah, they're like hey do this fun thing with us drugs whatever and you're like oh No, I don't want to get sucked it. Yeah, I do and I'm gonna have fun with you guys normally drugs, whatever, and you're like, oh no, I don't wanna get sucked in. Yeah, I do, and I'm gonna have fun with you guys. Normally I wouldn't but since you have. Yeah, right, peer pressure is the us thing. I just kinda got caught up. Yeah, situation. It is cool getting caught up in something.
Starting point is 02:44:14 Yeah, yeah. Getting peer pressure into something. Yeah, but no, you won't do it. It's also nice like standing, standing your ground. No. That is a law in Florida. Yes, it is, Jake. Your back castle. Lower. Okay. Good show boys.
Starting point is 02:44:32 We will see everyone Sunday night. We were watching the bears beat the chargers. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I could happen. Live while we record Hank Hank if you're forgotten this No, Dan of you Why you do that you say no just say no and be all mad I'm a lawyer 101 objection redirect answer answer question with the question Numbers 1817 27 some guy gave it to me outside the left factory last night eight
Starting point is 02:45:04 Memes? Just getting three. No! What was your number? Take 20, but I wanted to take memes is. Shane. No, I'm stuck. Shane, I'm stuck.
Starting point is 02:45:15 Shane, you fucked up. Yeah, Shane fucked up. Shane and Evan are in the part of my balls category. Okay. Which Shane take? Ten. Memes. I'm stuck.
Starting point is 02:45:28 69? Okay. So your number's getting real quick. 18. 17. 27. 69. Three's gonna hit.
Starting point is 02:45:37 18. Raxxas 20, Shane as 10. 20. I can see 20. Just don't want to leave. I'm gonna press two. I'm gonna press two. Those balls are really fun. You I can do it. Those balls are really fun.
Starting point is 02:45:47 You have to press it. So it's like the tension rises. There's going to be 20. Here we go. 41. Let's do one more. Let's do one more. Let's just do one more.
Starting point is 02:45:59 Counts. OK, but we have to stop doing two after tonight. OK, we'll do three I'm gonna go eight again I was 27 again counts for officially counts. We're working the new violin changing. Is anyone 20? No 69 Evan. Oh, yeah, we didn't have Evan Evan 28 28 all right 10 8 27 17 18 20 28 and then what was memes 69 70, oh one-half me, 70, so close. Okay, we'll see everyone one day. Let me guys. Shine away I'll be coming for your love of me For your love of me
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