Pardon My Take - Lacrosse Superstar Paul Rabil, Kentucky Ghost Callers, And Our New Intern Jill
Episode Date: June 7, 2019Stanley Cup Final Game 5 live watch. NBA Finals Game 3 was chaotic. We talk about the game, Mark Stevens pushing Kyle Lowry, The Bey Hive, and Drake. (2:55-16:15) Fyre Fest of the week. (16:16-24:15) ...Premier Lacrosse League Founder and GOAT of the Lacrosse world Paul Rabil joins the show to talk about the new league, what rules we can change about Lacrosse, and explains the things we never understood. (25:54-1:04:13) We hosted Kentucky Sports Radio and have a best of radio calls from our show. (1:05:31-1:18:42) Segments include Thoughts and Prayers LeVeon Bell, (1:21:30-1:23:09) Respect The Biz, (1:23:10-1:24:05) We read a headline, (1:24:06-1:26:03) and License to Jill introducing our new intern, 69 year old Jill. (1:29:06-1:44:08)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's Pardon My Take, we have a packed episode for you.
We have Paul Rable from the Premier LaCrosse League.
He taught us all about LaCrosse.
He is, some may say, the goat of LaCrosse.
Very, very fun time, interesting interview with him.
He's a really good guy.
We gave him some pretty sure-fire winners for the PLL, had to goose the ratings a little
bit.
He is what will make me watch LaCrosse because I'm like, damn, that was a really likable
guy.
He's not really like the classic lax bro, you know, chatter brad.
Even that wouldn't be bad.
But Paul Rable, really good guy.
We also hosted Kentucky Sports Radio, one of our favorite days of the year.
We gave you some clips from some unbelievable collars.
We also, also have the debut of our 69-year-old intern, Jilly Football, and licensed to Jill.
And then on top of all that, we have Firefest and NBA Finals and Drake and owners pushing
players and a packed Friday show.
Big Friday energy today.
Huge Friday energy.
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Today is Friday, June 7th, and if you're wondering what happened in game five of the Stanley
Cup final, we are live watching the third period for you.
So we will live react as the episode goes along.
We have an awesome, awesome Friday show for you.
Paul Rable coming up, Kentucky Sports Radio ghost stories, Jilly football, all of it's
coming.
We're watching the game.
I'm feeling Hank is reacting as we go.
They're on a power play.
Right now it's Blues 1-0.
We got 15-45 left in the third, a minute left on the power play for the B word.
So we won't talk about it unless there's a goal or unless something big happens.
So we're going to start with the NBA Finals, we're going to start with game three.
We have a lot of storylines that came out of it, but I want to talk about the actual
game first.
We're actually NBA fans, we're not the this league.
I'm not a fan.
I'm a journalist.
Right.
Speak for yourself.
I'm objective.
Okay.
So absolute ass kicking by the Raptors.
Boardman gets paid.
Boardman gets paid.
Steph Curry with an all-time performance, 47 points, eight rebounds.
He had the most rebounds of the Warriors, which is incredible.
He basically tried to will the Warriors to a victory.
The Warriors were putting out like some hilarious lineups because no Clay Thompson, no Kevin
Durant.
Who's the guy that looked like Detlev Shrempf got the chicken pox?
Drebko.
Yeah.
He's got no fucking armpit hair.
No game.
Yeah.
No game Drebko.
Yeah.
The Warriors lineup was like every now and then, well Steph was on fire, but every now and
then one of the other guys would make a shot, but for the majority of the game it was like
open shots because everyone was guarding Steph and then some bum missing.
What sucks is that when it's a Warriors game, I can't turn the game off early if it's a
blowout.
No.
Because you never know.
They cut it to like six.
You absolutely never know.
Yeah.
And it feels the same story every time the Raptors take a game from or even when the Rockets
were beating them, but you can't turn off the game even in the fourth quarter.
There were like two minutes left.
There were down by 10 points, down by 12 points, and it was like, shit, I really need to let
Leroy out and have him take a massive dump, but I can't because Steph Curry might just
catch fire again and ruin my night for me.
Right.
A lot of people are also complaining about the late start time to the game.
I like the late start time for two reasons.
One, it separates the men from the boys.
True.
As a real fan, it's like I have to work for it.
I know that lesser fans don't stay up for it.
Number two, it gives me way more time to lock in my bet.
So I think that the NBA actually really enjoys these late start times because it makes…
Adam Silver loves.
He's a betting man.
A much larger window with which to lock in their bets.
To think about it.
So the other parts of the game, Clay Thompson, obviously being out, hurts the Warriors not
only obviously on offense, that's very apparent, but defensively he's like, I mean, he changes
everything.
The Raptors got whatever they wanted.
They shot like 47 from three.
They were on fire all night.
And then I want to give a special shout out to my guy, Boogie Cousins, because what he
did in game two was phenomenal.
And like any fat guy, he was like, I got mine.
I'm not coming back for game three, because he no showed game three.
And I like it because you know that he was like a little extra sore from game two.
He was like, I've done my part.
You guys don't need me to do this every game, right?
And they needed it on game three and he just didn't show up for it.
Yeah, he would do the thing where occasionally to look like you're hustling if you're playing
pick up basketball and you're not a shape guy, just bring the ball up court once or
twice and then pass it immediately.
But that play, as far as everybody else is concerned, you were the point guard.
My move to always get a laugh if I bring the ball up is I just call it fake play.
I'm like, Indiana, Indiana, everyone get it set up and you just pretend like you throw
the ball and then go set a pick and everyone's like, haha.
You say triangle, just set up the triangle for me.
All right.
So the, I actually think the Warriors are totally fine.
I mean, that's not like a hot take, but Clay is going to be back.
I think they sit in clay.
They're like, look, we're the Warriors.
Like we'll be fine.
Let's get him 100% healthy or close to 100%.
He's not going to be 100% for the rest of the series.
But they know that they can win on the road.
They can know they can win down.
I don't think Kevin Durant's going to play this series.
We've said that on Wednesday.
Did you see him after the game in the tunnel?
He was, he was doing he was doing the good job, good effort.
He also was the good job, good effort.
Kid for the Warriors.
He was icing his Achilles.
Well, it's a lower calf strain.
He also has been ruled out for game four already.
Yeah.
So I like how we're getting even further away.
Like we're going to rule him out for game five, the minute game four ends.
But I still think they're fine because of the Warriors.
And I know people don't like the Warriors or sick of the Warriors, but I actually love
this series because they're being tested to the absolute limit and it's like they will
really earn this if they win this series.
Yeah.
So obviously the story of the partial owner of the Warriors, Mark Stevens, Mark Stevens
given a little shove to Kyle Lowry as he dove into the sand.
I want to start with the partial owner part because I don't know if you've noticed what
the media has been doing and the Warriors have been doing and the NBA.
He started as an owner.
Now he's a he went to owner to partial owner.
Then he was a minority owner.
Then he was an investor.
Well, he's definitely white.
Yes.
Are you mean?
Minority stake.
Yes.
And then like by the start of game four, he's going to be like some dude who just gave
us a lot of money once.
Yeah.
He bought a lot of t-shirts.
Yeah.
We just decided to give him a little stake.
They're distancing themselves so far from this guy and never heard of him.
He's going to have to sell his stock here or his his investment in the Warriors.
Poor Mark Stevens.
It's like it's gone up like four and a half times, so he's going to make a shitload of
money from it.
You think they can offer that to KD to stick around or LeBron to come or LeBron to come.
But let me just say this, but then he can't he can't call himself an owner.
This is almost like you're right.
That's true.
That's problematic.
Almost an epidemic going on.
Like everyone's talking about how many owners are pushing players in the stands in the NBA.
This is the type of thing that never happens in the NBA.
Done in Australia.
No.
New Zealand.
We've never pushed.
We've never gone to a game.
Listen.
Listen.
It never happens down there.
We won't.
We promise to never even go to a game.
So you that's how safe you are.
A lot of people are talking.
Players that are going to ditch the NBA and go play overseas because they're sick of getting
assaulted by the owners.
So there's like it's not complicated because you should never ever touch a player.
That's like point blank end of story.
Never touch a player.
The complicated part to me slightly is it was very clearly like he was blacked out and
almost like his fan his fandom came over him.
So you're sitting on the couch.
You're throwing your remote at the TV.
He just happened to be sitting right next to Kyle Lowry when he went in his lap and
shoved him.
Listen.
Not excusing it.
But I also like understand how someone can black out in the moment and be like fuck this
guy.
We're getting our ass kicked.
You know what?
This is a Silicon Valley guy.
He's exposed to all the finest.
Mark Jackson said he's from the suburbs.
Well I'm saying yeah.
I'm saying he's exposed to all the finest in 4K 3D technology when it comes to watching
these games live.
Yeah.
He's probably watched games on his couch where it felt like the players were diving
into his living room.
Yeah.
So he's probably comfortable shoving at them and getting away with it because they're
not real.
It's just it's the technology that he has access to.
So he's at a game.
He can't he can't tell what's in the matrix and what's real life.
No.
Of course not.
He also.
Oh no.
Nope.
Okay.
Okay.
No go Hank.
Calm down.
Hank screaming about a no goal.
Hank almost hanked himself on that one.
13 minutes left in the game.
It's popular stuff.
Left a little hank in there.
I got the the other part of like the Kyle Lowry going into the stands.
The woman in the second row.
She got lit up.
She got jacked up like straight up whiplash concussion neck brace.
But because this fucking little loser Mark Stevens who probably has more money to buy
and sell us a million times over gave Kyle Lowry a little push.
That's the story.
So I feel bad for her.
I did too.
It was like she's not even a first row guy.
That's right.
She's not rich.
She didn't have 2.3 billion.
It was like probably got like 500 million.
That sucks for her.
Sucks.
It did look like a hit from NFL Blitz that she took.
It was like you know what to her credit.
She kind of chewed it.
Yeah.
She got hit directly in the thorax right in the sternum region and she just like sat
down calmly and then kind of rubbed her shoulder out a little bit.
Marcus Marriota would have been out for the season with that.
Oh yeah.
He would be dead.
He would have Marcus Marriota would have turned into a cloud of dust.
So he is now going to have to probably sell his stake.
He's banned for a year.
It's got to be really awkward because I've always wondered like well actually we ourselves
are my minority stake owners.
It is kind of awkward because we know there's guys with bigger swing and dicks who have
you know more money than us who who actually invested in the team and put in the paperwork
and all that shit like we haven't.
That might be a goal by the way.
It's got to be weird to be that guy who parallax effect already walking on eggshells a little
bit.
I actually think it might be.
Yeah.
Parallax effect.
It might be to be that guy who's already walking on eggshells because he's rich but
he's not the richest.
He doesn't own the team to then fuck the team over like this.
Yeah.
It's that's that's got to be a weird I don't know who even owns the lake of whatever his
name is.
Yeah.
Texting him the next morning.
He's got to be fucking weird.
That's that's got to be.
It's like your dumb drunk buddy who always fucks up at the party.
You really fucked this one.
Yeah.
And he's just like hey man I'm sorry that you know like I took a shit in your pool and
broke your and broke your jacuzzi.
My bad.
And it's like come on man.
I mean fair is fair.
This fair is fair.
Drake should be allowed to assault one player on the Warriors.
Okay.
So speaking of Drake let's talk about Drake and his war with the Warriors.
Are we going to ignore the beehive going.
No we're getting there.
We're getting there.
All right.
Good.
That's a big sport.
We're getting there.
Drake burned Clay Thompson by posting a picture of Clay like basically with a bunch of women
that I think he might have had sex with.
Oh.
That was an all time out.
Pretty sick.
I guess I guess Clay is like in a relationship that like ended poorly because of his cheating
ways.
Mm-hmm.
But still Drake basically was like Clay has a lot of sex.
What's funny is like Clay could come out with a mix tape right now and absolutely bury
Drake and Drake would not respond to it.
Remember about your kid that Pusha T said.
Yeah.
Why isn't anyone why haven't any of the Warriors done that.
Just gone.
They were playing it pretty good.
Like shoot around and shit.
They just kept playing that song and repeat.
Oh really.
Yeah.
I tell you.
This league.
All right.
That was a no goal.
So yes.
The last thing we need to talk about before we get to Firefest the week.
The Bayhive.
Mm-hmm.
Bayhive have have ruined this is this actually was the worst game possible for all the richest
people in Golden State.
You know the Golden State Warriors Arena Oracle Arena all the richest people got got one guy
had to sell all his shares and be publicly shamed.
And then though the wife of one of the owners like basically ask Jay Z if he wanted to drink
because I think Jay Z and Beyonce were their guests.
But it was the perfect internet clip where Beyonce looked very upset right after and the
Bayhive attacked and she had to delete her Instagram and she got threatened.
Her life got threatened.
What have I been telling you guys about even an overreaction danger of one single hornet
or B.
I think it's a beehive.
Beehive.
It's a swarm on you.
I would rather stick my dick in an actual beehive than to provoke cross the Bayhive.
The Bayhive on Instagram.
And I think we actually are provoking them right now.
No.
No.
They're beehive.
No.
That was Hank.
That was Hank.
That was mispronouncing it.
Is it beehive or Bayhive?
At Henry Lockwood one at Instagram.
He was the one that's fine.
Put those be.
You could you imagine like the terror it's they basically M. Night Shyamalan should make
a movie about it.
Like you just go on your Instagram one day and you see like a couple of bees buzzing and
then you and then you refresh and now there's a hundred bees and then you refresh again.
It's basically there's 10,000 bee comments.
I had like a small taste of it one time during an award show.
I think I said something like it was like Rihanna to like Rihanna greater than Beyonce
and I got a little taste of like the beehive coming at you.
They buzzed a little.
I can't imagine like the public being in front of the finals game.
Terrifying.
She absolutely.
The whole hive just coming at you.
She had the leader Instagram and she was I think her life was threatened.
They should do a sequel another sequel to My Girl where instead of getting like swarmed
by an actual swarm of bees, it's you just get killed by stands.
You get killed by you get by cyberbullying.
Yeah.
She said I've never experienced cyberbullying like that's no duh.
I can't believe our players go through this that that kids go through this.
Well, your kids know not to fuck with Beyonce.
So I think that's kind of on you.
Yeah, that they have me find so fucking funny like how many stories come out of each game.
It's ridiculous.
All right.
Should we do firefest week?
Oh, before we get to firefest the week.
So we have Jilly football coming up later and Paul Raebel.
If you want to watch those.
Jilly football is our 69 year old intern.
Yeah.
I already said that.
She's wonderful.
You've been watching the game.
Well, you said during the ads.
No, I said it right after too.
Maybe I didn't.
Um, but if you want to watch it, uh, barcelgold.com slash PMT you can watch Jilly football and
Paul Raebel in studio barcelgold.com slash PMT Hank.
Why don't you start with your firefest which I'll start with one for you.
You want to go to game seven for your birthday and the Bruins look like they might lose game
five.
That's okay.
Okay.
Um, a lot of time left up.
All right.
Good.
Good.
Firefest Hank.
Okay.
Anyway, my firefest.
Thanks.
Firefest is having to talk on the number one sports podcast when you'd rather be watching
TV.
Oh, you're the one that said let's record it during the game, but literally like you brought
that up.
That's true.
That's on us.
Anyway, my bad, I guess.
It wasn't my idea to put it on.
Um, my firefest of the week is that I watched a Jonas Brothers documentary and I actually
really liked them.
Why is that a firefest?
No, that's kind of a firefight.
You have to do some internal.
You're going to be like, oh, Jonas Brothers, those guys are losers, like only teenage girls
like a bubble, blah, you know, you think they're just a product of the Disney Channel and
it's like, then you watch the documentary, you realize they were grinding for like three
years.
No, like family had to leave their house and all this shit and like, oh, kind of cool
story.
It's like when I watched Chernobyl and I was like, radiation is kind of badass.
Yeah.
But Chernobyl is kind of, every time I go on the train, I'm like, what if, what if like,
like you just walk outside and you're fucked.
Yeah.
It's like you walk into a radiation cloud.
Chernobyl.
Yeah, you're done.
And you know what's really scary is that if it had gone up into the atmosphere the way
that some people predicted it was going to, they're like jet stream would have carried
the radiation all over the world.
Yeah.
It's, it's crazy that, uh, I mean, I know why it's highly rated because it was obviously
very well done, but man, that's a fucking bummer of a shell.
Mm hmm.
Like real bummer.
Yeah.
We learned our lesson.
Really sucked.
Really sucked.
All right.
Any other firefests?
Firefest of the week?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was my fest.
Okay.
Was you like the Jonas Brothers now?
Yeah.
Okay.
It was like, you know, it was my girlfriend.
I was like, oh, I'm watching a Jonas Brothers documentary.
I was like, oh, Jonas Brothers, those guys are losers.
And then I, you know, I sat there and watched it and I was like, oh, they have any songs
that slap?
Which, which songs go?
You're 3000.
Uh, what?
How many are there?
There's three.
So one of them is like the biggest, biggest.
Oh.
Blues just scored a goal.
Fuck.
Blues just scored a goal.
That looks like that might be it.
Wow.
There's Marshawn is crying into his soul patch.
Blues just scored a goal.
Hank.
That happened.
That literally happened during your fire.
That's tough.
Your firefests was still open while that happened.
Your firefests got firefests cucked by your actual team.
Yeah.
That was, uh, you got to clear the puck.
Yeah.
We're watching you.
Get the puck out of the zone.
Oh, maybe a trip.
What are you doing?
Look like a trip.
Yeah.
It was right there.
It was right there.
Look like the boys play in the Stanley Cup final.
Blues goal.
His seventh of the postseason number 57.
David Perron.
Perron 924.
That was, thank you.
That was Cheek Marsh who's in the building doing, doing the in-game
announcing for us.
The arena announcing Hank.
That's tough.
That should have been a trip.
That should have felt like a trip.
He slew footed him.
Oh, whoa.
That was, who was that?
That's Cam Neely.
He just fucking rocking in a water bottle.
That was awesome.
Oh man.
It's a good thing he didn't throw in a player.
He wouldn't have spent it for a year.
Cam Neely.
That was, uh, Wyndham Dynum 69, right?
Seabass.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Seabass.
Kick his ass, Seabass.
All right, PFC.
What do you got?
Uh, my firefest of the weekend.
Can you play some, like, patriotic music underneath this?
We'll see.
Okay.
My firefest of the week is D-Day.
Uh-oh.
75 years ago, a bunch of soldiers, the original influencers, got a one-way ticket to an unforgiving,
unsupplied beach without proper accommodations or return transportation.
Sound familiar?
It was the original firefest.
There were no swimming pigs.
All they had was the German soldiers at the rangers.
This is your firefest?
They threw off the cliff.
I'm trying to give respect to the military.
Okay.
How long is this?
I'm almost done.
I'm almost done.
So next time you hear a quarterback calling in audible, take a moment to think about the
time our military saw their weakness in the opponent's defense and responded by screaming,
Omaha.
Omaha.
All right, you can cut the paycheck.
Okay.
So your firefest is D-Day.
It was with strong respect to the original firefest, which was D-Day.
By saying, by saying.
My great-uncle got shocked.
Firefest.
Okay.
So your firefest.
My family.
Your firefest of the week is D-Day.
Yeah.
I don't think that that's how.
Okay.
You're associating the troops with firefest?
Yeah.
I'm saying that if you.
And also, if your personal firefest of the week is D-Day.
If you think that.
So you don't like D-Day.
Then, yeah.
Well, D-Day was not a fun time.
It's not a problem.
It's not a problem.
If you think firefest was bad.
Imagine what it was.
Hurt by firefest.
The whole point of the segment is your personal firefest to make the trivial moments in life
and make light of it.
No.
You just had like the most serious moment and tried to make light of it.
Yeah.
You're absolutely right.
Okay.
Because I mean, nobody else was going to show respect to that.
Oh, we could have said something.
I'm thinking you could have just been like, hey, let's have a moment of silence.
Sometimes a man's got to take manage.
We could have done that.
All right.
My firefest of the week.
The moment of silence on a podcast is a great idea.
Yeah.
We've done that before.
We should do that more often.
We have done that before.
Just kill a lot of time.
My firefest of the week is I went home on, I think, Wednesday, Tuesday night, and my
cable didn't work for like 15 minutes.
So that was pretty bad.
It's tough.
Was it raining?
No.
I had to unplug the box and plug it back in.
That's tough.
Do you know when you like turn on your TV, like what's going on?
And that first, that first like 30 seconds, you're like, oh, it's probably just slow today.
The announcer just speaking in Spanish.
Yeah.
And then like a minute and a half later, you're like, uh-oh, something's wrong.
And that thought pops in your head where you say, what if my cable's just broken?
And now I have to deal with calling the cable company and scheduling and the whole like
thing.
And it's not going to be back for days and days and days.
It's the scariest thing you can have.
But all you have to do usually is just the manual reset.
Yeah.
No, I did that.
Those two minutes.
Yeah.
Oh, your brain goes to a bad, bad place.
You are just like, this might be the end.
Like I might just call it quits because I might not have cable for a night.
You know what?
That's how it's going to happen to our generation.
That's when we're going to start actually cutting cords is just, it's going to coincide
when our cable happens to go out and we'll just be like, you know what, I'd rather not
deal with this.
So I'll just subscribe to online service.
Also there is an element where like the cable person relationship is a very fragile one
and now my trust is at an all time low.
So I'm like now flinching every time I turn on my TV for at least a week or two.
That's a little PTSD from the time that I wasn't able to turn on my TV for a minute
and a half.
It's scary time.
You have cable.
Oh, don't even start.
Hank, are you a cord cutter?
No, you have cable.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm just going to have cable.
Yeah, you have cable.
Thank God.
You have to watch the Bachelorette.
True.
People who are cord cutters are not sports fans.
I'm just going to say it right now because you are buffering and you're watching a minute
behind like that.
You care more about the money you're saving than the sports.
Yes.
Than the actual sports and being up to it.
You're not a real sports fan.
I, I mean, I had one of my best friends like we almost stopped being friends because he
had, he cut the cord and I tried to watch a bowl game with him and I was like, does
the main reason I moved out of my apartment.
Yeah.
We got like the biggest fight ever.
I was like, I can't do this, dude.
You know, it's great though about watching sports when there is a 10 second delay.
You can talk yourself out of some very bad live bets because what will happen is you'll
be pulling up a live bet line right now and you're trying to lock it in and then you refresh
Twitter on your other screen and you see that the exact opposite thing that you want to happen
just happened.
But the problem is the live bet is 10 seconds ahead of the real time.
So you're 20 seconds behind the live bet.
So you don't even know where you are.
Yeah.
The live bet is so far in the future.
That's what he's saying.
Yeah.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like a lot of times it reminds me that I'm that I'm wrong about most of the things I choose
to do.
Yes.
In my life.
I see what you're saying.
You're absolutely correct.
It's so far in the future.
You can't comprehend it.
You're like, wait, it's like a total different inning because my stupid cord cutting ways
have made me so far behind all the rest of America.
Yeah.
Fucking losers.
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Okay.
Here he is.
Paul Rable.
Okay.
We now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Paul Rable.
He is a La Crosse legend.
He's also commissioner, owner, creator, co-founder, co-founder of the premier La Crosse league
which is starting June 1st NBC Sports.
Are you playing as well?
I'm playing the Jackie Moon of professional La Crosse.
So are you, let's start here, are you the goat for people who don't like, I would say
most of our fan base doesn't follow La Crosse.
Are you the goat?
No.
Who is the goat?
Well, I would say Gary Gait.
You guys familiar with him?
Oh, yeah.
Jim Brown.
Jim Brown.
Yeah.
What was that Hank?
Tom Schreiber.
Tom Schreiber.
No, I'm a Gary Gait guy.
It's going to be like that Hank.
Out of the gates.
Tom Schreiber plays in our league.
Oh.
Is he better than you?
Hank.
Hank, thanks.
I thought we were going to be aligned when I walked in.
Oh, well, Hank just stepped in immediately with his guitar.
One with the future.
So do you, would some people call you the goat?
Some have on social.
Okay.
And did you win a national title with John Hopkins?
I did.
Okay.
Johns Hopkins.
Two?
One?
Two.
Whoa.
Would you beat Virginia Duke or something?
We beat Duke both times.
Okay, there you go.
We know a lot more La Crosse than you think.
All right, so my first question is a very important question because I think everyone
is wondering this for a La Crosse goat.
Have you ever had like in your deepest darkest moments been like, man, I wish I was really
good at a real sport?
Yeah.
Pretty regularly.
Yeah.
I could have made bank.
I mean, big cat, I was like clawing at you over the last two years to get me on the show.
Yeah.
And I'm certain it's because very few people know about professional La Crosse.
Very few.
Yeah.
I'm like very empathetic to the situation of like at least being able to sit in here
and talk about it.
Good.
That's a big thing.
It's all good.
I think what happens with sports that aren't the major four sports is you get a lot of
please like my sport people and that turns other people off.
Yeah.
So I actually think La Crosse community is a little different every time I've tweeted
about it.
It's been a little more welcoming than like MMA or soccer where people are like, you don't
know shit.
Really?
Would you say that overall that La Crosse is trying to the fan base is open and welcome
to new fans?
Oh, 100%.
I would say widely our fan base is still in its nascent stage.
There's 2 million participants, 6 million fans.
So relative to the core sports that you guys talk about, it's small.
But I've noticed any time you guys talk about La Crosse or Barstool widely people just engage.
So like big agencies have put out reports around La Crosse fans and they follow other
sports more than any other and so there's like really good demos that match with it
is why we built the league to try to capitalize on it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I would say a vast majority of our fans listen to this show.
They've all been pinging me since your tweet and pinging is I just realized I gave a cliche
out of the case.
Yeah, no, that's good.
It's just digging me into a deeper hole.
I mean, as far as like a content creator, you're going right down the right path.
They're all like, Paul, don't fuck this up.
Yeah.
This is a big moment.
What's up?
You're probably the first and last La Crosse fan to ever have.
So convince me, why is La Crosse the sport of the future when everybody knows that it's
rugby?
Well, we actually built our model.
I know you guys were talking about it two shows ago, trying to figure out the geo-based
nature of our teams and there's no geo attached to the teams.
We're tour-based.
So similar to Rugby 7s.
Right.
So you're copycats.
What about Rugby 15s?
Yes.
Some good entrepreneurs are copycats.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good point.
So we're copying that tour-based model because it's the only team sport that has done it.
But if you look at UFC, NASCAR, PGA Tour, they're all tour-based and so when you're a smaller
sport like La Crosse, we needed to capitalize on the players, on venues and distribution.
And so the reality is we weren't going to roll out a pro league with 20 owners.
They were building venues and blowing this thing out.
So it was only really one way to make a large impact.
So we had to get creative and it's hard though because you guys are like, well, who's the
team in Chicago?
Who's the team in New York?
Right.
And our thought was...
Do you think of the traditional sports?
Yeah.
We were to label cities to them that we would just be really local and we wouldn't be able
to capitalize on this national growth that the sports had.
So by not attaching a city to a team, some fan in San Francisco and New York can just
pick their allegiance.
Okay.
So any given...
Is it going to be like a weekend?
Yes.
A weekend long tournament?
Yeah.
Okay.
So we were just talking about this the other week.
It's actually very easy to understand how the tournaments, how the scoring...
Not at all.
So right now you've got a built-in fan base that understands, because we've discussed
it so much, how like a tournament, okay, one team that finishes first, they get X amount
of points.
Is that how it's working?
Does points carry over to the next tournament?
We should.
So it's seasonal.
We should have looked at points, honestly, but what we did was knowing tour base, so
all six teams are going to be at Chilat this weekend and we're playing two games on Saturday,
one on Sunday, all are on NBC, and three teams will be 1-0, three teams will be 0-1, and
that's week one.
Then the following weekend we're in New York and then you might have one-in-one teams...
So you did it the right way, not the rugby way.
Good.
That's very complicated when you just described, so you have three teams that win and then
three teams that lose.
Right.
And that's week one, and they're all...
So we have 10 regular season games, an all-star break, and then playoffs and championships.
So you have to make your way to the top four on your season record.
Love it.
Okay, see, I'm confused how you can lose but not still win.
That's going to be an issue for me to get over, but we'll handle that.
But there's nothing from stopping an entire community, let's say Chicago really does love
the chaos.
Yeah.
Who are the chaos?
So chaos across...
That was the other thing we built across clubs.
So we tried to pull from England and let the EPL and LaLiga and build clubs because
we weren't going to attach to cities.
And then we formed the teams based on first university.
So a lot of our guys have played for similar universities.
You mentioned like Duke and Virginia.
So the Whipsnakes, who I know you guys talked about, that's all good.
Did you decide that name?
I was a part of it.
And what is that discussion with?
So who brought up Whipsnakes?
How high was that guy when he said it?
Bro, what if we just did Whipsnakes?
So we felt like reptiles, like having a reptile involved was important as all leagues do.
And a snake in particular kept coming up from like a rattler to a copperhead or whatever.
There's a bunch.
And so when you talk about LaCrosse, and Hank probably knows this, is that a lot of shots
are considered whip.
Yeah.
Hey, he was just saying that the other day.
So crankshots.
Yeah, crankshots.
It's unbelievable.
How much you know about LaCrosse.
Did Iguanas ever get on the table there?
No, never on the table.
What about Komodo Dragons or something like that?
No, but I did a science project on Komodo Dragons when I was younger.
Go on.
Please grab the floor.
Oh, I built a Komodo Dragon paper mache.
What about fire salamanders?
It wasn't great.
Okay.
Fire salamanders.
There should be a fire salamander team.
Yeah.
I'm doing pyros for player intros.
Oh, okay.
I like that.
Wait, give us the team names.
All six.
Okay.
So you have archers, Atlas, Chrome, Chaos, Whipsnakes, Redwoods.
Okay.
Got a problem with the Atlas?
Okay.
Because then like...
That's the team I play for.
Okay.
Well, so dumb people like me, when you're like, the Atlas is the Atlas Eye.
How do I pluralize that?
Well, I think we can make it official on this show.
We just call it Atlye.
Atlye.
Yeah, yeah.
And we'll just quote you on it.
That's Atlye LaCrosse.
And I brought an, yeah.
Well, it's Atlas LaCrosse.
Okay.
The Atlye.
But when you go in and I brought you a T-shirt.
An Atlye.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So Atlas, Whipsnakes, Chrome, Chaos.
All right.
Did you Internet Explorer or anything like that?
Firefox.
Firefox.
Would be an awesome name.
Yeah.
So Chrome was an interesting one because we were looking at the Steelers.
Okay.
And so we looked at a lot of other teams.
This was crazy.
I would have loved to have you guys have been a part of the process because you get your
brains on it.
Next one, tell us.
We will help you.
We'll have expansion teams, hopefully.
Yes.
But yeah, so we were looking at other organizations across team sports leagues and the Steelers
kept coming up.
But there's so much IP that's already stripped out of the market from college teams and universities
to other pro leagues.
Yeah.
I mean, I would assume the New Zealand breakers have some type of trademark.
Yeah.
So you can't do breakers.
Big time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Breakers.
No, that's ours.
Well, no, Whipsnakes actually sounds like a New Zealand name.
The Whipsnakes.
Wait, so Whipsnakes, Chaos, Atlye.
Archers.
Archers.
Chrome, Chaos.
Wait, Chaos is part of it.
Chaos is a team.
In the Premier League.
Yes.
Correct.
Got it.
Okay.
So I have a Chaos shirt too.
I like the Chaos.
Yeah.
All right.
So does Erica.
So here we go.
No one likes Atlas.
Yeah.
So Erica is actually on the board of directors.
I think I'm going to negotiate a trade over to Chaos for myself.
Can you just do that yourself?
Yeah.
So can we own one of these teams?
That's the most important question.
Because if we own a team, then we'll care.
Yeah.
It doesn't even have to be real.
Yeah.
The real question is can we say that we own a team?
Yeah.
We can figure that out.
Okay.
I'd like to discuss that.
Yes.
I have no problem with lying.
You have to do it on the podcast.
Like right now.
We have to do all negotiations.
So I'd like to also put on the table having you guys call a quarter on NBC.
Live.
Okay.
Yeah.
Done.
Sure.
For one of the games.
Done.
I can use my mental across knowledge.
It's not ESPN.
Okay.
And the distribution for the NBC main broadcast is 114 million.
We're in.
We're in.
Dollars.
Homes.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't want to be close.
I don't want to travel for this.
Yeah.
I don't want to waste energy on lacrosse.
Is it a problem?
Can we make the game in the Barstow offices?
Is it a problem for us having money on the game openly as we're called?
No.
Not a problem.
Okay.
Good.
Make that rule.
All right.
Yes.
Will there be gambling on it?
We're working on it.
Okay.
That's big.
It's huge.
So part of the problem is professional lacrosse has existed for 18 years but it hasn't really
been professionalized and that even accounts for stat keeping.
So when we approach MGM and a lot of the casinos and then DraftKings and FanDuel, their
odds makers are looking at all the data and they're like, well, this ground ball is miscapped.
This assist is miscapped.
So we've got to develop a year's worth of stats before we get one of those partners
to come in and gamify it.
Okay.
But we will.
You're thinking about it.
Yeah.
All right.
So over 100% in.
All right.
So it doesn't win if we don't have sports setting.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I want to veer a little off here from the league right now.
I want to give you a little bit about your like career in lacrosse so that people are
familiar.
So you, when did you start playing lacrosse?
When I was 12.
And did you play other sports?
Yes.
Okay.
What was your best second sport?
I actually sucked at lacrosse for most of the early years.
I hated it and I wanted to quit and my mom would drive me to practices back when you
would practice once a week and play on a weekend.
I didn't play club sports.
So I played basketball and soccer and we're better at those.
I thought this was pre-MLS so I didn't really have much to look up to for MLS.
And then I figured out pretty quickly I wasn't going to play in the NBA.
And then when I was in ninth grade, I just started, like things started clicking on the
field and lacrosse.
So I just dropped everything else.
Right.
Okay.
So you play, you start getting good at ninth grade, you go to college.
Now when you are in college and you're dominating and you're winning national titles, what is
like the conversation?
I'm always curious about this.
What's the conversation with all the guys on the team about like, can we continue our
career?
Where does this go?
Or do we just go get a job like everyone else?
It's usually go get a job like everyone else.
Okay.
There was a league that we, it's called MLL.
So we actually tried to buy the MLL with our capital partners.
And so turning groups and investor, you guys know Pete and then Erica's an advisor.
Oh, you go with P.D.
Well, I wouldn't do that.
I don't.
Okay.
But it's a good call.
Yeah, do not compete.
Can we cut that part out of it?
So, so, so it used to be, there used to be a different league.
We tried to buy them.
Yeah.
They said.
You played it for a long time.
Yes.
I played it for 10 years.
But to your question, when I graduated from Hopkins, I took a job in real estate because
my rookie wage in that league was $6,000.
Wow.
I lived in my parents' house.
I have Facebook page.
How many games?
How many games I live in my parents' house?
No, no, how many, how many games were you, were you getting paid $6,000 for?
Oh, for the season.
So how many games is in a season?
Jesus.
Then it was, it was 12 games in a season.
And what did you max out at?
What was your best salary playing lacrosse professional?
The maximum salary last year was $16,000.
Jesus.
Okay.
Not a lot.
Okay, so we're still, you are really like building something from the ground up here.
So I was in, I was in real estate and then I got my first endorsement back in 2009 with
Under Armour and then Red Bull and I was building like a social media profile.
And so I was connecting with a lacrosse audience because none of it was ever on television
outside of the college Final Four, which you guys saw.
And then I left my job in real estate because I looked at that it was like basically 20 grand
combined in sponsorship revenues.
So I got a place in Baltimore, split it with three buddies and then I just started trying
to figure out pro lacrosse.
Okay.
And Belichick is, is he a mentor of yours or just a friend or how does that work?
He grew up playing lacrosse in Annapolis and he used to come to Hopkins practices
and at one point he actually guest coached, which was pretty fucking cool.
That's awesome.
So, you know, cause you'll see people come to practices in all leagues.
How do you cheat in lacrosse?
How did he try to do that?
How did he try to cheat?
Yeah.
I don't know.
You can't deflate the balls in lacrosse.
No, no.
That's why I got out.
We're both Skins fans though.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In theory, not really a Dan Snyder fan.
Not a huge Snyder fan.
No, but I like the team.
Once they get good again, I'll be like.
I love the Gibbs era.
Yeah.
Gibbs era.
Did you ever go to RFK?
Of course.
See the stadium, the stands bouncing.
Dude.
Art Monk, Gary Clark.
Yeah.
Those guys.
Mark Rippin, Ernest Beiner.
Yeah.
Rippin back in 91.
Yeah.
We can talk about Skins all day back here.
We're good.
Yeah.
A fun team to root for.
Yeah.
So.
So, so wait.
So, so Belichick came down.
He, he coached the game.
So he comes to a practice and then we go to the locker room and we thought he was going
to be like, Hey guys, keep up the good work.
And he looked at us and he goes, You guys are fucking division one athletes, right?
You're like, Yeah.
And he was like, then pass and catch the fucking ball.
He was like, Jesus Christ.
I've been playing this game my half of my life at least and I haven't touched a stick
in, in 20 years and I can catch and throw better than you guys.
Damn.
I remember we were like, All right, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were kind of pumped because we just got a pep talk from Bill Belichick.
Yeah.
And then when I graduated, he, we just stayed in touch.
At one point I considered trying to do what Chris Hogan did.
Yeah.
You guys know Chris.
I was one of my questions.
How much does a guy like Chris Hogan help lacrosse?
Oh, in a huge way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's a couple years younger than me and he basically did what I wanted to do or considered
doing and probably wouldn't have been able to do it because he stuck it out.
But yeah, it's good because it shows the caliber of athlete that our sport has.
Absolutely.
We have a guy like Miles Jones who consistently gets offers to come out to OTAs from NFL teams
and Tim Semish who played three years in the NFL.
He tried out at our training camp last week.
So there's, there's a lot of like athletes.
Patrick Kearney grew up playing lacrosse.
He loves it.
Yeah.
Calum Robinson.
Yeah.
Another great, great stud.
Hanks just reading off his phone.
Got his phone out.
Yeah.
All right.
We were talking about before the show.
Was it hard to stay in elite shape as you're, you know, you do have a day job.
Most of these guys in the league have day jobs.
How often do you practice when you were, when you were with Major League lacrosse?
You practice once or twice a week.
So you're pretty much on your own.
But honestly, when you look at even the NFL, they've limited hitting so much that getting
in shape is primarily off season preseason.
And then you just kind of stay in shape.
Or, you know, when you go into practices, you're watching film and doing walkthroughs,
maybe some skeleton work, but the actual, you know, the actual hitting and team practices.
I mean, the NBA just does walkthroughs.
Baseball just does batting practice.
Right.
I think it's the allure of it though.
I mean, you've got to be together.
Right.
Yeah.
For the fans to buy in.
Yeah.
So, all right.
So you, you're in the league.
It's obviously not paying like huge bucks like every other league.
At what point where you're like, you know what, I want to start my own league.
Like when did that kind of switch the light bulb switch on?
So that conversation started in 2000, probably 16, but it was primarily around like, Hey,
maybe we should buy a team.
Let's look at what an ownership position would look like in the MLL.
And then the more we looked at that, we realized that you're pretty, pretty handcuffed in that
regard for a number of reasons.
So then we switched over to potentially purchasing the league.
And my brother who had spent most of his time in San Francisco as an entrepreneur, he had
just coincidentally left his latest job.
So we put our heads together and we're like, let's give this thing a run, but you never
know you're going to do it until you actually raise the capital.
Right.
So it's all conceptual.
Right.
And then at the end of 2017, it became real.
And then we started having conversations with players under NDA and it became like a pretty
groundswell moment.
And then the rest of the community remained quiet about it.
Whereas like it was like the worst kept secret in lacrosse for all of 2018, but we were all
still playing in MLL at that time.
And I think a lot of the ownership groups in MLL that knew when we walked away from,
where they walked away from a deal opportunity in 2017 and we were going to try to build
one, but they were just like, good luck.
It's really hard.
Right.
Yeah.
That's a power move, though, to start your own league and immediately try to purchase
your former league.
Yeah.
Right off the bat.
That's a flex.
It is.
Were they like a little bit insulted that you immediately said that we want to take over
your league?
Yeah, they were.
And I understand why.
Because there were like a couple of players.
My brother didn't play, but he's still 35 years old and we like walk into a room with
guys who have been trying to figure it out for 18 years.
So we were really sensitive around that.
And we had great investors that we disclosed after we announced, too.
So it wasn't like, hey, Mike and I got this thing figured out, get out of the way, thanks.
But I'm sure there were some of them that probably interpreted it that way.
But the reality is a non-competitive market would make it a lot easier than even us playing
this weekend in MLL having games because they're still around, even though we have 160 players.
So this is crazy.
So this has been basically a three-year process leading up to, I think we're going to run
this next week.
So where's next week's?
New York.
Red Bull Arena.
Great.
So if you listen to this right now, they're going to have the Red Bull Arena for the
weekend.
You can come out.
You can boo Paul Rable if he doesn't score for the chaos.
No, the at-ly.
The at-ly.
But I might be on chaos.
Yeah, that's true.
We might get a trade there.
So I mean, that's crazy.
It's hats off to you, man, because that's a big risk that you took.
And this is all leading up to this moment where everything is coming out and it's like,
this is the new league.
It is very risky, but when you get all of the best players to come and then you have investors
that back you, just operating this thing is really fucking hard because you're running
a media business.
You're running a sponsorship business.
You're running a ticket business, a merchandise business, and a youth business all at once.
So we have now 35 full-time employees, but 50 people working in the org, and it's just
like every day is a grind.
So I mean, we're launching this weekend in Boston.
We'll be in New York, like you said, and we have great capital behind us, but it's just
it's it.
So what's left?
What's the biggest metric that you guys are going to be watching to know?
Because we've seen with whether it's the AAF or other leagues that have started recently,
it's like, okay, there are certain things that are more important to them than others
in terms of like long-term viability for the league.
So are you going to be paying closer attention to ticket sales, ratings, merch sales, Twitter,
Twitter?
Yeah.
Whether or not me and Big Cat tweet about it.
Should have bought us as influencers.
Right.
Easily.
We will easily be sellouts for that.
Was that Hank?
Yeah.
I'm saying that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Hank does have the keys to the part of my take account.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
If you see many lacrosse tweets, it's probably definitely.
Yeah.
Which one of those things are more, most important to you as you're like kind of taking the temperature
of the league and seeing how healthy it is?
Yeah.
So AAF, as you guys probably know, we're like underground building a technology business
for sports betting.
Yeah.
And they got out of the gates earlier than they would have liked because of the XFL.
So they wanted to beat them to the punch for off-season football.
And that was risky by them, but they were building a gambling business.
We're building a sports league that's generating kind of enterprise value around revenue from
sponsorship and tickets, but we measure our success by media.
So viewership across NBC, engagement across our social, what we're doing across digital,
how we're activating through our players.
So single entity is what the tour based model is, but it also gets us as close to possible
is like the UFC, which we follow them over the last 15 years.
And they built it in a linear decade too before social came out, but they got behind
their players and they told their stories.
So it's definitely, and our investors know this, I mean, it's a 10 year build to try
and get there.
And I think one of our biggest obstacles, it isn't tied to revenue, it's kind of appeal
for lacrosse, which has put itself in the gutter for a number of reasons over the last
decade or so.
How so?
The names.
Yeah.
The stereotypes.
Yeah.
It's totally, it's tough to shake.
Or you could just totally turn into the skid and just rename everybody on each team and
call them all like, uh, Brantley's make it a safe space for like white dudes.
We talked about, I guess I think the golf does, right?
I mean, they've like basically embraced being in that space, right?
Sons, Tiger Woods, right?
Right.
Who, um, and, and Brooks Kepka's interview was awesome, uh, but don't pander to us.
Well, we're kind of pandering to him.
Yeah.
I guess that's true.
We did the interview.
Yeah, you did the interview.
Yeah.
Don't pander to us.
But I mean, it is, it's an easy, if you're looking.
It would have been easier, but what we're trying to do is like basically unchain our
athletes because they've been groomed almost like college coaches are in all sports to
give this political interview after games to tell how great their opponents are to be
button up and wear a polo shirt and like all this other shit that, that isn't pro sports.
Yeah.
So by getting them mic'd up, getting cameras in their face, encouraging them to talk
shit about their opponents, like that's what the UFC's done.
That's huge.
And that's what we're doing.
Yeah.
Showed some personalities.
Yeah.
One free idea.
So we, we actually come in with the dumbest ideas that might actually work.
If you just release like a hypothetical lineup from one of your teams and they're all like
Preston, Brantley, the fourth, and having to say names, that goes viral, you get the
engagement and you're like, actually, those aren't the real names.
Here's the real rosters.
That would have been so good.
Yeah.
You can still do that.
Yeah.
That you could.
We could do that for all star.
Yeah.
Duke, Virginia.
Duke, Virginia.
Yeah.
Virginia.
Johns Hopkins.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Well, what are you, I heard you guys talking about the rules.
Yeah.
Two episodes ago.
Yeah.
So that's a, that's a big question I had for you is like, what is the basic understanding,
understanding of like lacrosse and how it's played that the general pop populist doesn't
understand that you're trying to break through?
Well, it's complicated.
It's a lot like hockey in like these random two line calls and off sides and it's tough
to track the ball or the puck during the broadcast.
So we looked at innovation on the broadcast and then we looked at basically creating this
like lacrosse for dummies, essentially.
Right.
So you have two goals.
You have a ball, you know, as, as a viewer that one team's got to put the ball in the
net more times.
Oh, you're really doing the dummy thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Well, that's where we started.
And then we were like, okay, why is a whole different than a cross check, different than
a cross hole, different than a trip?
So we were like, it's called illegal body checks.
Why, why previously I DM you this, why previously do fights take place and there are ejections,
but there's fights in the NHL and the NOL, like, that's a lot of fighting.
So there's fighting.
There's fighting.
Fuck yes.
You should have started the legal interview with that.
There's fighting.
We're lacrosse, but with fighting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's, there's fighting.
Do you think people are going to test you?
It's, it's mechanical though.
I'll say equipment can't come off.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's good.
You think you're going to get tested?
Probably, but we have some tough guys.
Are you ready to fight?
You got to force it.
I fought, I fought in the indoor game that I played professionally for a little bit and
it was probably like 50, 50.
Okay.
Because it's a tough guy.
I hung in there.
You got to fight like week one, yeah, to get out there.
Like you, you know that, right?
I had for the health of the league.
You have to fight.
Yeah.
It's probably a good idea.
Okay.
All right.
I also wrote down for a dumb idea.
Have you ever had like a dick pic leaked?
Okay.
You should do that.
It's like people will be like, Paul Rabel, who?
Oh, the dick guy.
Yeah.
The dick guy.
The lacrosse dick guy.
Every league has to have a dick guy.
Yeah.
Like Draymond Green.
Draymond Green kind of got through it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Several in football.
Yeah.
But the problem is I'm also the co-founder, so it could go south pretty quickly.
No, that's good.
That's even more publicity.
Yeah.
Like co-founder and player.
And people like player and co-founder.
What the hell?
Yeah.
Dick gets people talking.
So that's a fact.
So we have a shot clock.
The college games are messed.
There's 80 seconds.
Yeah.
What is that?
It's like, why even have a shot clock?
Yes.
It's wild.
I didn't even know.
Is that a new rule?
Yes.
How new?
That's fast.
A year.
Okay.
Because I knew that.
When I turned it on Monday Memorial Day, I was like, what?
There's a shot clock?
Yeah.
So you guys have a shot clock?
We have a shot clock.
It's 52 seconds.
That's random?
Yeah.
But I like that.
Yeah.
That's what we went for.
Okay.
They're the old 52 clock.
Yeah.
Completely non-data driven.
What counts as a shot though?
Because do you have to hit something?
On net or you hit the goalie?
Those are probably the craziest players in the game.
Is these guys standing with just a simple chest protector?
And sweatpants.
Some.
We love that they wear sweatpants.
Yeah.
Some of them do.
That's a cool thing.
You like that?
Yeah.
It's relatable.
It's mandated.
What am I wearing right now?
Mandate.
Call bloggers and just be in sweatpants.
I've got two rules here.
One, it's kind of like the puck track, but just make sure that the balls are knee on yellow.
That's exactly what we're doing.
Boom.
Okay.
Love it.
We took it right from tennis.
Okay.
Well, you actually took it from PFT.
Yeah, you took it from me.
He had it secondarily.
By the way, what color do you think tennis balls are?
Opticala.
Okay.
There you go.
Finally, we still have got all the right answers.
You did.
Also, I don't know if there's a way to...
We had to figure out that pantone.
It was damn near impossible to find.
Yeah.
Oh, you got to get Ravel to tweet it.
Uh-huh.
The pantone.
The pantone.
That will be big.
I'm telling you, that will be big.
So, I don't know if it's possible to do with the live games, but I know you can't with
replay.
The ball, that has the ball, has a little circle around them as they're running, like
on the ground.
You know how in Madden, when the running back has the ball?
The NHL did that during the All-Star Games.
You like it?
I didn't see that.
Yeah.
But all I know is that when I've watched LaCrosse on TV, it's very tough to tell who has the
ball because you can't see it when it's in the twig, or whatever it...
What do you call it?
The stick.
The berry.
They used to call it the cross, but it's...
The cross?
Yeah.
What's the pouch called?
A netting.
Netting.
Or a pocket.
The pocket.
The pocket.
I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about, Eddie?
This is like a swimsuit dance.
Well, when I first signed with Red Bull a while ago,
they weren't in Team Sports much.
And once we did the deal, they were like,
okay, give your helmet to us so we can paint it.
And I was like, well, you can't because we're a team
and I have to wear my team logos.
And they were like, that might be a deal breaker, man.
And I was like, wait, what's going on?
They're like, and they had to figure it out.
They were just not in Team Sports much.
You could give you like a Goli-mask.
Yeah, like I just run around.
Yeah, but so we're actually,
we're exploring painting our Goli helmets like hockey.
Nice.
We have a two point arc.
So.
All right, that's my other ideas.
I like that a lot.
It goes more than one point.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's 15 yards.
Okay.
So it's kind of like a three point arc.
What about the dive?
Dives allowed, so guys can dive in the crease
and score, they go airborne, crease dive.
What about, when are you allowed to hit in lacrosse?
At any moment when the ball is either loose
and you're near the ball or someone has the ball
and you can hit him as a defender.
So you can just run up and just like smoke someone
with the ball?
Yeah, I mean, you can't like take someone's head off.
Can you do that in college or no?
They call it tighter.
Okay.
We did this thing with John Brankis down at IMG,
who's the sports science guy.
And he did four episodes trying to decode a lot
of the science behind lacrosse
because a lot of people just don't know.
So one of the things that we measured
was amount of force per pound of square inch
or per square inch of force that a defender gives
when he checks a forearm.
And one of these defenders we have his name is Tucker Durkin.
He cut through four karate boards.
It's like you're Durkin.
Four, four.
And he went to Virginia?
He went to Johns Hopkins.
Oh, okay.
But this guy looks like Luke Keekley.
Okay.
Exactly like Luke Keekley.
And anyway, cut through four karate boards.
Holy shit.
And it was pretty intense, yeah.
I'll show you guys the video actually
of at some point what he did to,
cause we had a player stand in
and just stand like a statue and soak one from Tucker.
Soak one, that was best.
It wasn't good.
That was a hockey term.
You have to be a psycho to just,
to volunteer for that job.
Be like, come on, soak me, it's like we tuck it.
Soak me good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be more of a running gun leager up and out.
Yeah.
I think they're, that's the same thing.
Oh, yes.
So yeah, now running gun.
And so what we've done is actually
took 10 yards out of the middle of the field.
So guys can go from one to the other quicker.
Cause the field's just so big.
And get up and out.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
I like that.
Can I ask one more question?
Yeah, sure, Hank.
Who's got the best Fogo in the league?
What is Fogo?
The at-lie, for sure.
What's Fogo?
Face off, get off.
Thank you.
Come on guys.
Okay.
So we have Trevor Baptiste and he's a beast.
Okay.
And so he's, he was a face off guy for Team USA.
Got it.
And I may or may not have had something to do with him
being on my team.
He'll be on your team.
Nice, stack your team.
So give us, yeah, give us some lacrosse.
I would say you guys probably know it having,
listen to your show a bunch more than me, but lettuce.
Yeah.
I'll talk a little bit of technique.
You have a cradle, you have a whip,
you have a crankshot, you have.
What's the difference between lettuce and flow?
They're, they're pretty similar.
Okay.
Just hair styles, just like Minnesota hockey here.
Yeah.
That's right.
We're gonna have short hair, but have, you know, flow.
The lettuce, I feel like it's gonna go
good point, Hank.
Out of the helmet.
Are you, are you lettuce planning to Paul?
Yeah.
To you.
You asked the question, right?
So Paul has, has flow, but not lettuce.
Yeah.
I used to have a, I used to have long hair.
Okay.
And everything I could to try to get myself
in the sport out there when I was younger,
I was a sell out.
Really?
Yeah.
Like a total lacrosse, like, like basically.
No, I didn't, I didn't go into the vernacular as much,
but you know, I just, I mean, I was building a YouTube
channel and posting on social media.
And I still post a lot, but I was posting all the time,
just because I sensed that it, one, it never existed
before, like communication from pro to fans.
And then I mean, a lot of athletes have narcissism in them.
Yeah.
But I was, I was, I was indexing there hard.
And then I know you guys have a small feud with,
with Dude Perfect.
Yeah.
Oh, you did.
I did.
Dude, the, the, the GIF that you posted on Twitter was of me
hitting that watermelon.
That was the Dude Perfect.
I'm deleting that right now.
No, don't delete it.
No, please.
I'm deleting that.
You liked the Dude Perfect guys?
I did.
Who's your favorite over?
I did an edit with them.
It's interviews over.
Who's your favorite?
Big hat.
Big hat.
I was, I was leading into it because I had 27 million views
on that.
And that, that's still the largest video.
So, but this is now the largest show every, every time we do
something new, it seems like after this league, it's like,
the sport had never had a chance to even be on PMT.
No, definitely.
Are you guys ready?
So don't delete that tweet.
Okay.
But I, I, you know, I love bro sweet.
And thank you.
Thank you.
How many Jeeps have you owned?
Jeeps?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two.
Yeah.
Of course.
Is that about standard?
You get one of those?
I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's comfortable.
It's spacious and it's cheap.
Yeah.
I was making $6,000.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess.
I've got to fucked up back.
You know, I can't sit in a car.
Is that true?
Yeah.
What'd you do?
A 405, a 5S1.
Fuck.
That sucks, man.
That's kind of like what I did, but not at all.
Obviously you need to capture a new audience,
but there's already a pretty big audience of people
that have played lacrosse that have watched lacrosse
that are already fans of the sport.
But where you draw that line in terms of like pandering
to a brand new audience can sometimes alienate people
that already know about the sport.
They're like, I know what a goal is.
Yeah.
You don't have to explain it to me.
Like how have you decided where to put that line?
Yeah.
I'm, we're a little bit split there.
So we're going to figure it out in week one
because we have Brendan Burke who does the Islanders games.
He's our, he's our play by play.
Paul Burmeister does the Olympics for NBC.
And then Ryan Boyle is like our Tony Romo.
He's like all time lacrosse player.
Never won a championship.
He won, oh, good call.
Yeah.
Just got to.
Not a Tony Romo.
Not a Tony Romo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they, they'll probably do some type of education
during the broadcast, but a lot of our fans
do get pissed about that.
Because the college commentators do that a little bit
during the final four and I always see tweets going out.
Be like, hey, we know what just took place.
We like, we know that the ball went out of bounds
and the other team gets it.
Right.
So it's like a little bit of fun watching a new sport
and figuring out some of the stuff as your,
like when you have that aha moment.
Oh, this is why this guy has the ball right now
or this is why there's a face off.
That sort of thing.
Like if you figure out while you're watching it,
obviously you need to educate people a little bit
about some things through my experience as a rugby fan.
So when it's a World Cup on TV.
It's hard for me to understand.
Or yeah, or if it's, you know, the college rugby championship
or whatever it is that is on TV for a wide audience.
What I don't like is when they say,
oh, this is like a jump ball and basketball.
Yeah.
You know, when they relate it too much to another sport
that they assume that I already know about.
It just sounds thirsty.
It does sound a little bit thirsty.
So if you do it too much.
Yeah.
I think it's important to do that a little bit
because you do have to like our knowledge base
is based on, you know, the major four sport.
So when people do say little things like that,
it does help understand it a little bit off sides.
And you know, the, you just explaining how you can hit
at any time.
Right.
Like I didn't know that.
But scrap the John Brink is peace.
Where are we gonna?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, all that money down.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
I have one last question.
It's a C-keek question.
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not a tournament game on one of the given weekends.
New York is the one coming up this weekend as it airs.
Put in promo code take you get $10 off your C-keek purchase.
So my last question is how much cash
do you have on you right now?
Good question.
Probably 17 bucks.
That's it?
That's it.
What about Brett?
How much cash does he have on him?
Zero?
Well, everything on credit.
I was gonna offer a tweet from PFT and myself
on the first weekend for the right amount of cash.
17, not the right amount of cash.
I'll go to the ATM.
No, no, no.
I'll like a tweet.
Yeah.
I'll like a tweet for $5.
You'll like a tweet for $5?
Yeah.
What if I...
Just as good as a retweet.
Mm-hmm.
A new algorithm.
What if we're going to,
so we're gonna try to line you guys up to call a quarter.
You guys really wanna do that?
Yes, absolutely.
That'd be awesome.
Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun.
Yes, people will hate us.
You know who's really gonna dislike it?
Who? ESPN.
Oh yeah.
Because you'll be on NBC.
No, but everyone's gonna hate us.
Everyone's gonna hate us.
I don't know that.
I don't think so.
It doesn't seem like people hate me.
Because we don't know the rules though.
I'm saying like hardcore lacrosse.
Which is great.
Yeah.
That will be the part,
like I think a lot of people will tune in and like it,
but I think there will be some hardcore lacrosse fans
that will be like, fuck these guys.
Cause we will probably make fun of lacrosse.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know for sure.
Maybe, maybe.
I don't know.
We'll do a little.
I was walking in here and like,
Erica was like, you know,
the sport of the future thing is kind of tongue in cheek.
And I'm like, yeah, I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hank left.
He's literally so bored with this interview.
He walked out.
The biggest lacrosse fan.
He literally left five minutes ago.
He's just not here.
Way to go, Hank.
I'm excited.
Credit to you, man.
Like it's obviously a little tongue in cheek,
but seriously credit to you because this is a hell of a risk
and putting it all in here.
And I'm all in for more sport.
I'm a big believer in more sports is always better.
And we think that even with this model that we built,
which is different and it's tour based
and it's not an established sport or a core sport
like the NFL or the NBA,
but we think this is a launching pad
to then going a city based model.
So it's not like we're like,
hey, fuck that cities don't matter.
They do in a major way.
But if you don't have the number of participants
and viewers already baked in and you don't have the owners.
So this tour based model allowed us to get Gillette,
Red Bull Rena and not be stuck to these local small venues.
It's smart because AAF came out and it's like,
I don't care about fucking San Antonio or.
It's just hard.
Like you think like if you come into New York,
all of a sudden people are going to be supporting you.
It just, that's like generational.
Yeah.
So is this league more player friendly, you would say?
Yeah.
Our players have equity.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Okay.
We gave our players increased wages,
healthcare as well.
And then equity.
Look at you.
Great boss.
Very cool.
Great boss and we will tune in.
At some point we were going to call a game.
It's a quarter.
Yes.
A hundred percent.
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featuring some of the best callers in the state of Kentucky.
And now for something completely different.
We were talking about ghosts, we were taking calls.
We wanna talk to the people of Kentucky,
the great people of Kentucky.
We love this day every year.
Shannon, do we have more calls?
We do, let's go to Dee Dee.
Hey, Dee Dee.
Dee Dee.
Oh, sorry, Dee Dee.
That's all right.
What's up, Dee Dee?
First, I got a comment for you.
The Calipari ladies, I give it up to them,
but now you haven't heard Redneck Sassy before.
So you need to come to the eastern part
of the sites here that...
Wait, that's Redneck Sassy ladies.
Yeah?
Huh?
Redneck Sassy?
Hell yeah.
Oh, sorry.
No, you can say hell.
That's great.
H and double hockey sticks.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn, hell.
Okay, second, I got a ghost story for you.
Okay.
My family has owned this hauler for years and years,
and there is a cemetery at the beginning.
When they put the new road in,
there's a major battlefield,
just like a mile up the road.
They used it part of that hill during the Civil War.
There are several Amarch graves
and even Indian Barrel graves up there.
And when they put the new road in,
they moved the cemetery,
but not all of the graves correctly and the soldiers.
So it's, we think for years,
we've seen soldiers from time to time
and different weird things have happened.
Yeah.
So when they went to put a plot up on,
back from the graveyard about a quarter mile maybe
to make a house seat,
well, it was my grandfather.
About a few months later,
he got killed in a gunfight.
So it was my uncle.
Five years later, he was in a gunfight and had a car wreck
and he got killed.
So then it went to his boys.
Well, they turned out having the worst luck ever.
My one cousin caught his wife cheating on him.
It was awful.
So now then my mom bought it.
Well, she had a boom in business
and probably like eight, 10 years later,
it burned to the ground.
Whoa.
So everyone that lived up there has,
and there's a lady in a white dress
that's also been seen on the house seat.
And strange things do happen in the house,
like chairs moving every so often
or just unexplained noises and things happening.
All right.
I believe you when you say all this stuff,
especially when you toss in the Indian burial ground,
that's a real wild card one.
Cause I mean, all you have to do,
just look at FedEx Field
and the Redskins history of quarterbacks.
There's a lot of bad grizzly injuries
that can happen on a place like that.
Now, when it comes to this specific location,
if you own property that a graveyard is on,
do you actually own the dead bodies too?
Is that like a toss?
Like we're gonna throw these in?
Um, I really don't know the answer to that,
but I know that there have been people that have passed away.
My grandma has rental properties too,
at the mouth of the hauler.
And when there have been people that passed away
that don't have family or nothing,
she'll let them be buried up there.
You know, just out of respect for them.
And, um, you know, the county
or whatever usually pays for it or does it.
And then, um, but a lot of the graves,
we've had to run a few people off,
treasure hunters, um, with, uh, metal detectors.
And we try to respect the graveyard.
You know, we don't want anybody just serving it.
We have found, you know, uh,
shales from the civil war and trees and stuff
that we've collected over the years.
But yeah, we try to, you know, keep, you know,
trespassers off of it, except for people
that have family up there because we want it respected.
But my understanding is when they put that new road in,
they did not respect the civil war soldiers
that were buried up there.
They're supposedly buried in all of them
on top of each other in one spot.
Dang, I have a couple of questions
for you, quick questions.
One, what is a holler?
A holler, a lot of people call it a hollow,
but around here it's a holler.
It is basically a valley in between two,
most people call it mountains that ain't around here,
from around here, but they're actually hills
cause they aren't tall enough to be mountains.
Got it.
And there's usually a creek in it somewhere.
A creek.
So number two, who owns the holler now?
My granny and my mom and my uncle.
And how's she doing?
And they, I guess.
Oh, wait, whoa, you own it?
So we're talking to you right now.
I had a piece of property on it,
but I live down in the valley.
I wouldn't live up to my mom's house for nothing.
And it's a huge house.
So who right now do you think might be cursed?
My mom, because not about six, eight years
or something like that after getting her house built
and she had financial problems with the house being built.
But once they got it built, moved in there,
it wasn't a few years later
and their business burned to the ground, you know?
And plus, and my house also burnt like it two years before
that.
She sure.
So my last question was,
you mentioned the gunfights.
Is that like a duel?
Are we talking about a duel?
What happened with the gunfights?
Okay, well, my family fought for years
with another local family that I won't mention.
But we are related to Gregson,
but I'll just throw that in there.
But not on the good side either,
my side, the outlaw side.
But my great-grandfather was a sheriff here once.
But anyway, so the family, they fought for years.
I can remember bits and pieces of it
happened to hide at times in the house
when the other family called and said
they were going to shoot our house up.
And so my grandfather and this other man
were at an Eagles club because he was a veteran.
And I think the other gentleman was too.
And they pulled out and their guns
and the guy shot my grandfather
and my grandfather shot and killed him.
Whoa.
So this is like half field McCoy.
You have like a whole thing going with these people.
Do you see, when you see one of the family members,
does it fade on site?
No, not now.
It's, I mean, that's been, you know, when I was,
I'm talking like when I was, I guess in the 80s,
you know, early 80s is when all this was going on.
It started because a bunch of people caught my uncle
out by himself, like five or six guys and they beat him up.
So when you beat one of us up or hurt one of us,
the whole family gets involved.
Yes.
Yeah, no, what's the, what's the way to stop that?
Yeah, how did that?
Do you get together?
Was there like a council?
Do you, do you do parlay like pirates?
No, it just, if you, they would go to each other's house.
They fight or you beat each other
and it just kept getting worse and worse.
You know, my, actually my cousin, my,
that got killed with my uncle,
he actually spent time in LaGrange
for killing the man's son over shooting the man's son
over them catching my uncle out by himself.
So it's basically like a little mini war
that's been going on in the hills of Kentucky.
So when you, do you keep law enforcement out of this?
Is this one of the situations where the local sheriff's
just like, you know what?
She's related to the local sheriff.
Yeah, but is this one of those things where,
where law enforcement's like, hey, they're going to fight
and it's best to just stay out of it.
No, they used to when I was younger,
but now like I said, most, my grandpa's gone,
my uncle's gone, you know, so they've calmed down
over the years and gotten older.
So, you know, but back in the day, they didn't touch it.
They didn't touch us.
My great aunt, which is well known around here,
she shot two men like an inch from their, you know, what?
And they wouldn't come over there.
I mean, my grandfather was the only one
that could do anything with there.
And I'm talking like Marilyn Monroe looking beautiful woman
who wore Daisy Dukes and a tank top,
like one of them little tiny bikini tops, you know,
with a big 45 or a 38 pistol in her pants.
And she's lost everybody coming up down the holler
and you had to stop and if she didn't like you,
she would either tell you to get lost or she'd shoot you.
Shoot you in the pee-pee.
I would much rather have the, the tell me to get lost.
Yeah.
So how many pee-pees did she shoot?
How many wee-wees did she shoot?
Ding dong.
She was pretty good shoot.
You know, she missed them within a couple of inches
just so they know, you know, they walked around with a lint.
The one man did walk around with a lint
for the rest of his life.
Yeah.
I was going to say, if it was me, it's a pretty good shot.
The whole end of the holler, there's two sides
and the whole end was nothing but, you know,
red and blue lights.
They was all afraid to talk to her.
Finally, the sheriff came and he said,
no, where'd you shoot him at this time, mommy?
She said, roll him over and pull down his pants
and you'll find out.
Sure enough, they rolled him over and there it was.
The whole end of the holler?
What is that?
The whole end.
Whole end or whole end?
That's the one Rick Bettino.
The whole end, the entire end.
Oh, the entire end, the entire holler.
Both roads, this holler's so big it has two sides to it
and the creek separates the sides.
Edie, have you ever shot anybody?
I should probably not answer that, boys.
Okay, don't.
Do not.
I'm not excited.
No, I have never shot anybody,
but I've been taught to shoot since I was about six,
seven years old.
Okay.
Well, Edie, thank you for the call.
That was fantastic story.
Appreciate it.
That made our day.
Yeah, yeah.
That was awesome.
All right, let's go to John Short.
John Short.
John S.
What's up, John S?
Rather much, y'all great Americans.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Agreed.
75 years to go back.
Big time shot of Haney and Billy Cunningham.
So I got that from.
Say that again.
Sorry.
Big time shot of Haney is often three to six.
Also cut that from Billy Cunningham.
Okay.
Agreed.
Don't understand what you're saying,
but let's keep going.
He's a big fan of Sean Hannity.
Oh, Sean Hannity.
Got it, got it.
I would like to retract my agreed.
Yeah.
Wow, PFT.
He is PFT.
Yes.
Somebody has to be the, the, the lib on the show now
that Matt Jones has taken his French vacation
of five weeks off a year.
Someone has to be a bleeding heart liberal.
So what do you got, John?
Short.
Okay.
I'd say it was more important for me.
Millionaires and winning championship,
winning championships is more important
than being a millionaire.
So we need, so that's all the players are for.
One and done.
We don't need one done.
Everybody needs to come back,
play it four years like it used to be.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
So are you saying, going with that line of reasoning,
would you say that coach Cal,
now we're talking about John Cal here,
is he on the hot seat?
No, indeedy.
No, indeedy.
No, indeedy.
But he hasn't won the NBA rings.
John Cal is not one of the NBA rings.
I know it.
And I know he has.
And also I want to get a shout out to,
I want to get a shout out to somebody,
get a shout out to Shelby.
All right, Shelby.
Where's Shelby?
Where's Shelby at?
I don't know.
Oh, shit.
Did we loot?
I shouldn't have sworn there.
Did we lose Shelby?
If anybody out there has seen Shelby,
we need to track them down.
Is it a dog or a human?
No, it's a human being, yeah.
Is it a car?
No, it's not a car.
You're talking about that old school?
Is it awful Shelby?
Okay.
Just, just, just, just, just want to give a shout out to you.
That's all.
All right.
What does Shelby look like?
Like this, like give us a descriptor
so we can try to find Shelby.
Cause we don't know where he, is it she or he?
It's a she.
Okay.
Shelby, if you're listening to this right now,
please call in.
There are a bunch of people out there.
Call John short.
That are worried sick about you.
No, call into the show.
We'll get Shelby on the show and just make sure
that she's doing okay.
Tell her John Schwartz is giving her a shout out
because there's nothing worse than giving a shout out
and that person never finding out
that they got shouted out.
Yeah.
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and the Bruins have just scored.
They made it a 2-1 game.
That penalty was called, Hank,
but obviously they scored right away.
Oh, let's go.
Oh, is that A-1 or no?
Bruins' goal, his fourth of the post-season,
number 74, Jake Debrusk.
Debrusk goal at 1332.
Okay, thank you.
That's PMT sportsman, Jake Marsh,
our in-game arena announcer.
Fantastic job.
No, it's not an A-1, Hank, but they did call it.
I know you saw that.
There should be an A-1 in football and in hockey.
Well, I mean, whenever there's a penalty like that,
the goalie comes out so they can play with an odd man
while the ref has his hand up.
Mike Greenberg's done rule for right now
at the top of my head.
If a wide receiver catches a touchdown
on a pass interference,
the extra point should be worth two.
Yeah, I like that a lot.
I like that a lot.
All right, so let's get to some segments.
This is gonna be an insane end of the game
and you're gonna get to watch it with us.
So you're gonna get to relive it.
If you're a Blues fan, you're gonna love this.
If they win, if you're a Bruins fan,
you're gonna hate this if they lose,
but it's gonna be an electric end to the game here.
It goes to overtime, it's gonna be very mysterious.
It's gonna be very mysterious.
We'll have to tune into Monday's show
to find out who won this game and game six.
Segments, thoughts and prayers, leave you on bell.
Yeah, so he got 500,000 bucks worth of jewelry
stolen by two of his girlfriends.
So they teamed up together, kind of an Oceans Two type deal.
That's found to happen.
They waited until he left and they just ransacked his house
and he knows exactly who it was, I guess,
but they got away.
They haven't been caught yet.
Right, so, and I feel like when you have,
if you have two girlfriends or if you're a woman
and you have two boyfriends,
eventually they're gonna team up
and rob you of all your jewelry.
Well, either that or they're gonna go after each other.
So they kind of, I like to think it happened
like you see in a lot of movies
where they got real mad at each other and started swinging.
And then they accidentally knocked over
a framed picture of Leveon and they both looked at it,
looked at each other like, we shouldn't be fighting.
We're on the same team.
Or they knocked over a framed picture of Leveon
and it split open and it was just like cash underneath,
kid behind the frame, like, whoa.
Exactly.
Let's take it all.
You need to take all this stuff.
Let's take it all.
I actually have a theory that if you own $500,000
worth of any product, people should be allowed to steal it
if they can get their hands on it.
What if you own $500,000 worth of cash?
No, that's different.
Okay.
She's got any product.
But any singular product.
Okay.
You should be like, for example, like.
$500,000.
$200 snakes.
$500,000 worth of cancer medication.
Yeah.
Let's steal it.
Nobody needs that much.
Let's fuck it up.
It's Martin Screlli.
Let's fuck it up.
So like with Russell Wilson.
That's one pill he's got.
You could steal air monarchs from Russell Wilson.
All $500,000 worth.
$500,000 worth.
Or Penicillin from Jimmy Garoppolo.
Yeah.
He's gonna need that.
All right.
So we have a respect the biz
and that's about the Stanley Cup finals.
Zidane O'Chara has a broken jaw.
He can't speak and he still met with the press
and answered questions by writing down his answers.
Class act.
That's a way to go.
That's that might be my sports person of the year.
Sports, sports, respecter of journalism of the year.
Sports player who respects journalism the most of the year.
You win one free ticket to go see Bruce Springsteen
along with Pierre McGuire.
Yeah.
And in a six pack of Val Gash White.
Yep.
Congratulations Zidane.
Luke Warm.
No, that's nice.
It's like that book, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly,
basically what he did.
Where you just blink out your answers, morse code.
That's what a real hockey guy would do.
It was great.
It was great that he did that.
Oh, I had, we read a headline.
This one is Mikkelsen Aces Jim Nance's Backyard Home.
That was a headline from the Gulf Dutch.
That's a good headline.
That's a pretty good headline.
Mikkelsen Aces Jim Nance's Backyard Home.
Yeah.
Those two would have some sloppy sex.
That is headline.
Phil Mikkelsen has sloppy sex.
Phil Mikkelsen strikes me as a guy
that spits directly onto his own dick a lot during sex.
He's like, look at this, baby.
Just like takes it out and like, not on his hand.
Just like, just pulls it out and just goes.
This is gonna be like, let's go halfway down
and sucks it back up and then.
Yeah, the skittle spit.
He does the skittle spit.
He's just like, look at this.
So yeah, what is it?
What was that movie?
The Adam Sandler, Big Daddy?
Yeah.
I got two ribs removed so I can titty fuck myself.
Check this, babe.
Spits all over his dick.
You know what?
This is like a porn.
You know what I'm gonna do?
I feel like I should, it's been a pet passion project
of mine that I've had on the back burner for a while
that I've not got around to doing.
I need to write just fan fiction,
just like steamy, erotic fan fiction,
just about all sorts of athletes trying to have sex.
No, you don't.
I thought you were gonna say a skip to Steven A.
Yeah, you don't have to do that.
I did write that.
You don't have to do that.
No, I think it'd be funny.
I don't know if you have to do that.
Like, okay, you tell me that you would not read.
Maybe you just jerk off.
You would not read a novella about Phil Mickelson
having sex with Dennis Williams.
Yeah, I think we got, I think we just,
the Phil Mickelson spitting on his dick jokes.
I think we just reached the capacity.
Okay, not Phil Mickelson then.
And her name is.
I'm gonna say Colin Montgomery having sex with Mia Ham.
Andy Reed having sex with.
His wife.
Aham.
Just his wife.
No, Aham.
Just fucking Aham.
Just a big ham.
Just a nice, juicy ham.
Named Mia Ham.
Yes, exactly.
He names it Mia Ham.
Yeah, he names it Mia Ham, exactly.
Yeah, okay, I can see where that would work.
Okay, that'll come out next month.
Do we have any other segments?
We're gonna do something with Paul Pierce.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I think we just need to have a poop talk about Paul Pierce.
I actually don't really buy it.
I don't buy it either.
I think he admitted as much that he was just using it
kind of to get a headline as a joke.
And listen, Paul, as someone who has hanked himself
in the last eight months, my culture is not your costume.
Well, I was gonna say, I, and look,
I don't wanna take too much credit,
but I feel like I've been on this,
I've been campaigning for this for like five, six years now
that we need to de-stigmatize pooping your pants.
And ever since I got caught pooping my pants
at a Chicago dog park and then Astooli asked me for a picture.
So I think Paul Pierce has just waited till it's been like,
the tide has turned on it.
And he's like, now it's safe to say this.
So he's doing it, he's kind of a coward.
And he's not only a coward, but he's doing it.
And I think, I don't think he actually had to poop his pants.
I think he just thought he was really, really injured.
And he knows that if he says this now,
people will be like, that's funny, dude.
It's cool now.
He's using pooping pants as a cover for it.
So like me, I have a broken rib.
If I say that it feels like I have stabbing pains in my ribs,
that's disrespectful to Paul Pierce
who actually had to deal with it.
Damn, that was close to a goal.
Filthy.
Yeah, so I just don't buy it.
I mean, I've been out on the front lines
for a very long time talking about how it's not a big deal.
And I feel like he's just, he's, Johnny come lately.
I don't appreciate that.
Now people are, people laughed at me when I said that I-
He should have said it in real time
if you wanted the credit.
Well, no, I'm just saying like, I did, you know.
Oh, I've been doing this.
There's two minutes left.
So I think we'll just watch the last two minutes
and then we'll get the license to Jill.
Cut out all the times that we don't talk.
I don't know.
This is terrible radio.
Okay, that's it.
Looks like the game's over.
Bruins fans are fighting each other in the stands.
Holy shit, that was-
Sweaters are getting tugged off left and right.
Insane ending of the game.
I hate to see this, a game like this,
tear the city of Boston apart.
Insane.
Final score, blues two, Bruins one.
Fans, we hope to see you back at TD Guard
on Wednesday, June 12th for a potential game seven.
Please drive home safely.
Okay. That was in game arena announcer,
Jake Marsh, PMT sports biz.
So now the cup is in the building for the blues.
That's insane.
Insane.
The cup has never been to St. Louis.
The cup is in the building for the blues on Sunday night.
So we'll be here, we'll do it after that game
in case that the blues win the Stanley Cup final.
Let's finish up the show with our 69 year young.
You like how I did that?
That was good.
You gotta say that that way.
69?
Oh, that fucking kid is so funny.
A spring chicken.
Bruins fan with just holding the most still
and stoic middle finger as all the blues walked off the bench.
That was fucking awesome.
That was fucking-
That kid's about to go so viral.
All right. Here she is.
Chilly football.
Okay. We're going to wrap up our Friday show
introducing our newest intern.
We told you about Jake Marsh on Wednesday.
We also have Jack who's behind the scenes
and to finish the big three, we have Jill.
69 year old Jill.
Chilly football.
Chilly football.
You probably remember her from her resume.
She said that she's stronger than she looks.
She's great at laughing at jokes.
She is not easily offended.
Not easily offended, well versed in New York City
and recovering from a shoulder injury,
but doing really well in physical therapy.
We talked to your doctor.
They said you were doing great.
Good to hear.
Okay. So, Chilly football is here.
We're going to do a couple of things every Friday.
We're going to do license to jail
where she gets questions from readers, from listeners.
From millennials.
From millennials.
But we're also going to do a little,
I'm not mad, but I'm disappointed,
recap of the week.
So, Jill, you listen to Monday and Wednesday show.
Sometimes we get a little out of hand.
Sometimes we make jokes that probably aren't great.
And as our senior correspondent,
that's not because of your age.
That's because you have a great resume.
Where did we go wrong this week?
I have to tell you that I was disappointed.
Not mad.
So much worse.
Not mad.
No, not mad.
Not angry.
But I was disappointed that I had nothing to be disappointed
in.
Oh, you're too nice.
No, I swear.
Except perhaps the only thing.
Yup.
The dump lady.
Oh yeah.
The dump lady on Monday.
That went on too long.
To be fair, this was a real question.
This was a real life scenario that this lady was going through.
And it's our job as podcasters to help people
through their issues sometimes.
So she really wanted to know if she should take a shit
in front of her boyfriend.
Okay.
It just went on too long.
It went on too long.
I mean, you know, enough is enough.
We get it.
She's stupid anyway.
There was a lot to unpack.
We get it.
She just should have taken the crap, right?
Okay.
No, she should have sent him packing.
Yeah, that's true.
So all right, that's good feedback.
Because you know what, we thought it was the right amount,
but you're right.
The dump lady probably went on a little too long.
Sometimes we get carried away with things.
And so it's always good to have an outside set of eyes.
Somebody new that doesn't know how stupid we are sometimes
to tell us, we need an invisible fence.
Like we're dogs that you just let out in an open pasture,
but we need somebody to zap us back to reality sometimes.
She's talking, Jill's talking,
Julie football's talking about Monday reading the woman
who said that her boyfriend wanted her to take a shit
in front of them to make sure that they weren't,
she wasn't cheating on them.
The dump lady.
The dump lady.
Because the shit that the lady took was too big.
And the guy didn't believe that it could come
from his girlfriend.
Right.
Right, that one.
See, we're doing it too much right now.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Okay.
But can I say something I liked?
Yeah.
I loved the karaoke.
Thank you.
Oh yeah.
That was amazing.
Thank you.
You guys have good voices.
Thank you.
Well, Manny Pacquiao does.
Yeah.
Well, he does.
Voice of an angel.
He really got into it.
I love that.
I gotta listen to it for longer.
The trick was when we started singing Big Cat and I,
we sang very poorly to get started with it.
And then Manny was like, no, I got this.
And he kind of like pushed us away
and he was like, I want to take it.
He's like, hold up.
You guys, you guys sit in the back.
I'm going to take the wheel.
All right.
So Julie football, we're going to do license to Jill.
We've got questions.
She's getting her phone up.
What font do you use?
I need an adult.
Let's say she lost the password.
Oh, I thought that was your password.
That was.
It was?
But that's not my phone.
Oh, that's just Jake's phone.
Why do you have two phones in front of you?
Because I'm very important.
She's got a burner.
Okay. So which one are you going to read?
I'm going to read this one.
You have a beautiful family, by the way.
I do.
Yeah.
But this one is my darling Jake's phone.
Okay.
Jake Marsh.
Jake, we need to unlock it.
Okay, here we go.
So these are questions that are submitted by you,
pardon my take, award-winning listeners.
Okay.
Okay. My first question is, Jill,
what were you doing in your life when Big Cat and PFT
were born?
1985.
1985.
January 30th?
31st.
Yeah, and 31st.
Yeah.
January 30th?
I'm 30th.
You can probably tell by maturity.
I'm 31st.
You can probably tell because I have much more youthful skin.
Yes.
So we were born a day apart.
It's crazy.
It's a nicer body.
Crazy.
Crazy.
I was living California, had two kids, and one on the way.
Smoking weed?
I had, of course, all the way through my pregnancies,
all of them.
Talking to Mike, Jill.
Drank, you know, I did it all.
Okay, that's honesty.
Stunted my growth, but they were okay.
Well, we're part of California
because I remember when you talked to us a couple of days
ago, you said that you were a flower child.
I was, but I was living in Nevada then,
and the summer of 67, we drove up to San Francisco,
did the whole Haydash Berry.
Wow.
Expanded my mind a little bit.
Expanded my mind, but I was a naive little girl.
How many grateful dead concerts have you been to?
Nine.
What?
Zero.
Yeah, I think you're a narc.
Zero.
No, at the time, you know, you live in Nevada,
you grow up there and you're closer
to Southern California.
So what are you interested in?
The Beach Boys, the surfing, the surf sound.
Okay.
Were you a surfer?
I have surfed, but I'm not a surfer.
Right.
Okay, make sure this doesn't lock.
I know.
Okay, next one.
And does Jilly football mail birthday cards
to family members?
Of course I do.
The fuck is that question?
Of course I do.
Yeah, duh.
I've got a lot of family and it's always nice to get a card.
Do you have a calendar that's set up
so that you know when you have to send the letters?
It was a ridiculous question because of course she does.
Like of course she does.
Well, but there's a certain generation
that sends cards, yeah.
And now you can Facebook.
But that's not the same.
It's a much more personal touch.
And no, I don't have a calendar.
Okay, so you just remember it.
Sometimes I'm late.
Okay.
But I do.
All five of your kids' birthdays, go.
September 28th, April 8th, April 28th,
May 2nd, May 9th.
Oh, so you were really getting it down.
What was I doing in the late summer?
Got it, Jill.
Really celebrating Labor Day weekend.
Indian summer.
You know what I'm saying?
Labor Day.
Yeah, okay, next one.
Okay, two questions first.
What are your favorite sports teams?
So the AWLs can be prepared for soggy sorrows.
Yeah, so.
Professional or college?
Both.
Professional football teams would have to be the 49ers.
Okay.
And the Seahawks.
Oh, you like both of them.
That doesn't really work.
That doesn't really work.
They're big rivals.
But I still like it.
I still like them.
Okay, we're gonna need you to pick one of the two though,
to be your team.
That must have been a tough energy.
To be my team, I have to be the 49ers.
Okay, you're 49ers.
I was gonna say, that's a tough energy
championship game in 2014.
I go back to Joe Montana.
I love Joe Montana.
Okay, all right.
And college?
Yeah.
Go blue.
Miss again.
Okay.
Good, we don't have any big 10 representation.
Yeah, all right.
That's gonna be problematic.
What other teams you root for?
Any other basketball teams?
Oh, basketball team.
Yeah.
College?
Carolina.
Carolina blue.
Oh, we got a little rivalry with Hank over there.
I like that.
What the hell is going on right now?
Hank is a big Duke then.
Oh, yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Oh, we're no longer friends.
Yes.
Oh, that's gonna be,
that is gonna be fun.
When we have the live watch for Duke UNC next year.
I've been trying to get my son tickets
to a Duke Carolina game for years.
Got you.
I got you.
Okay.
I got you.
There's no way.
We'll figure it out later.
Seeky.
All right.
And then any baseball, basketball, NBA,
you don't care.
Baseball, you don't care.
Oh, I love the mats.
Oh, okay.
There we go.
I really do.
We got everything.
We need like something in Texas, maybe in Florida.
And you got the whole.
No Texas.
Okay.
Florida.
Well, I used to like the modeling.
I used to go to the,
I used to have season tickets to the Panthers in Florida.
The hockey team.
Hockey team.
Jesus Christ, Jim.
Oh, it was fun.
You're all over the place.
I love this.
Hills lived in every corner of the country.
Yeah.
Damn.
Okay.
All right.
That's great.
So when any of those teams lose,
we're gonna have to douse you in water
and you're gonna have to come on the show.
All right.
49ers probably won't lose too many games.
So you'll be okay.
You'll be fine.
Well, and if they lose,
they probably lose to Seahawks.
So we're really okay.
You know what?
We'll give you both those teams.
Yeah.
You get both.
All right.
Next one.
All right.
What's up, Julie football?
Saw your Twitter cover photo.
Is an x-ray of your shoulder and have a question.
Are you hurt or injured?
Thoughts and prayers.
Oh, thank you.
I got hurt.
I got injured.
I fell.
No, that's a difference.
It's one of the other difference.
So being hurt, you can play through it.
No, I was injured.
I truly was injured.
Now you said the other day
that somebody pushed you over,
but that was a lie.
That was a lie.
That was a lie.
You just fell?
That's good.
I just fell and I wasn't drinking.
Oh, okay.
Do you have life alert?
Is that offensive to say?
I don't have life alert,
but I probably should.
Okay, there we go.
All right.
But I was outside just walking
and I stepped on the sidewalk and I had had thumb surgery.
So I didn't want to put my hand down
and hurt my hand, so I fell on my shoulder.
Tucked the brunt of the force in the shoulder, okay.
But you are crushing your physical therapy.
I am.
Yeah, you're killing it.
I almost do the homework every day.
Did you walk around with a wrist guard for a long time?
I feel like that's a look that older women rock.
Like a prophylactic, I just always got the wrist guard.
Like you're going rollerblades.
Either rollerblade or they might have, you know,
have carpal tunnel, I don't know.
You know what, Hank is doing boulders
for shoulders this summer,
so maybe you and him could get on the same workout.
Yeah, you guys should do some shoulder workouts.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Okay, next question.
What's up, Jilly?
AARP work.
Yes and no.
It gets you discounts.
Okay.
How does AARP work?
Oh, I'm sorry.
How does AARP work?
Well, you sign up when you're 50
because that's when they consider old.
Yep.
And you just go from there and you get little magazines
and you get a card and you show it.
So you're checking into a hotel
and you just flash the card and they're like,
here's 20% off?
Correct.
That's all right, we got to get an AARP.
Yes, yes.
What else do you get out of it?
What's the best discount you got on AARP?
Probably hotel.
Nice.
Okay, so when we book our hotels,
we should bring you along so you pay for yourself.
Yeah, use your card.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, next.
Okay.
Oh, this one's long.
Yeah, this one's long.
Okay.
This is the last one.
Okay, it's up Jill, especially Jilly football.
You seem like you have maternal instincts.
So I'll get right to the point.
I live with my girlfriend and my little sister
who just graduated college,
moved into our second bedroom for a month
while she finds a place.
My girlfriend is pissed off because I don't want
to charge my sister rent for living with us.
Good guy move, it's not a big deal.
We're at a standstill and I don't know what to do.
I love my girlfriend,
but I don't want to change my sister's rent.
Or I don't want to charge my sister rent.
Yep.
Please help.
Well, I'm staying with my kids
and they're not charging me rent.
Whoa.
What can I say?
Big time move by them.
I think that is a standup thing to do.
Family first.
Always family first.
So yeah, what do you think?
Do you think this guy should just tell his girlfriend
like, hey, why don't you buzz off?
No, I don't think he should tell her to buzz off.
I think he should just say, this is the way it is.
Take a dump in front of me.
Yeah, take a dump.
Yeah, take a dump and let me know.
Take a dump.
Yeah, that works.
Dump girl, dump lady.
What do you think about the idea of having the sister
or the person who's not paying rent
do certain things around the house?
Oh, absolutely.
Like tidying up, flushing dumps.
Yeah, flushing their own dumps.
Yeah, you gotta pay your way.
You gotta do something.
So what do you do around your house?
I clean their apartments.
I do their laundry.
You get this internship.
I got the internship.
Thank you, Adam.
Yeah, you nailed this internship that got you
out of the house every now and then.
You're getting paid.
Oh, yeah.
You are.
I thought I had to pay you.
So that's the way I thought it was.
How much money do you have on you, Jill?
Because yeah, the way it works is you get paid
but then you just transfer that money to us.
That's what I thought.
All right, so Jilly Football, first day in the books,
you can follow her at jilly underscore football.
You're gonna be tweeting.
We want you tweeting.
All your thoughts, anything else you have for us?
I mean.
What are your thoughts on Twitter, Jill, so far?
Yeah.
What's your experience with it?
It's confusing.
I'm sorry.
If it wasn't for my darling Jake,
I don't think I could do it.
He has to come and practically hold my hand.
You'll be just fine.
You know what you should do
while you're still learning to get the hang of Twitter?
You should write down all your tweets.
Yeah, instead of tweeting them
and then when you get into the office,
we can help you tweet them out.
Or write down your tweets and take a picture of them
and then tweet the picture.
That's a good idea.
That's a streamlined thing.
Okay.
Yeah, that really works.
All your thoughts.
And by the way, not to give you any pressure or anything
but you are up to 5,000 Twitter followers.
Oh, wow.
So the world is watching.
Wow, I'm a lucky woman.
Yeah, you are very lucky.
I also like how you call Jake my darling Jake.
I'd like to see that continue.
I think I might call him my darling Jake.
Yeah.
All right, so Jill, every Friday,
you're gonna be on in the summer.
It's gonna be a fun little summer license to Jill
and make sure you come back
with some things that you're disappointed
we're gonna screw up.
Oh, well, you will.
Yeah, we will.
You will screw up.
But it's about getting up.
Knock me down seven times, get up eight.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, Jill.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, guys.
Love you guys.
Talk to the mic.
Love you guys.
We're talking away.
I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway.
Today is all my day.
To find you, shine it away.
I'll be coming for your love again.
Shine it away.
I'll be coming for your love again.
Needless to say, I won't say it.
It's about being something a little late.
Smell it and you'll know what life is like again.
Say it out to me.
It's better to be safe than sounding.
Say it out to me.
It's better to be safe than sounding.
Take it from me.
Take it from me.
Take it from me.
Take it from me.
Take it from me.
Take it from me.