Pardon My Take - Life Episode 2 With Ryen Russillo & Mark Titus

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

We’re back with Mark Titus and Ryen Russillo live from LA to catch up after not seeing each other for 2 years, talking life, careers and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Okay, we are at Ryan Russell's house. It is Ryan Russell, Mark Titus, PFT myself, Life Episode 2. The afterlife. What happens when you die? No, we're back. It's been, I think, what it was two and a half years ago. Is it really? Yeah, because my son is two and a half. So I've had two kids in between, and we're back. How many kids are you out? Two. Oh, the way you phrased that, though. I've had two kids in between. Well, it was before my son was born, although Ryan sends gifts to my son, not my daughter. He sent me LeBron's children's book. And I sent back a video of me just being like, we don't like this guy. And then I sent him a 500-piece clear puzzle. They just threw the trash. Right, all like a clear jigsaw puzzle that you have to just

feel your way into. All the pieces are clear, and you just have to. That's actually a huge dickhead gift. Oh, he, I mean, again, he gets me the LeBron book, and then this. Okay, but I also sent you cars. Yes, that's true. That you didn't even know that I sent. I was like, Hey, you play with those cars? Like, dude, he won't put them down. I was like, Oh, that was for me. So I think I was a little resentful that I didn't get more props, not even from Big Cap, but more a son, because he apparently liked the gift. So then after that, I was like, All right, I'm going to send him a LeBron book. Maybe there is a lesson in there for him. And then when I sent the clear puzzle of 500 pieces, I even went after I said yes on the order, I was like, that was kind of a 20 bucks. I would hate

that if somebody gave me a clear puzzle. Yeah. So I would try to do it. Right. You can't just throw it away. You have to like do it. And then it's frustrating. You didn't even try. In the memo I put for you and your son to enjoy for days on end or something. I sat on my desk and then like a week later, Ryan was like, did you like that gift? I was like, what are you talking about? And then he's like, it's a clear puzzle. And then I was like, Oh, okay. And then I threw it out. Big Cap, can you clear something up? Because I've been, I've been secretly living in shame for the last probably two and a half years, because you were telling somebody at the time, like when somebody is nine months pregnant,

they're actually 10 months pregnant. Yes. And I pretended to be like, yeah, that's right. And this entire, like for the last two and a half years, I've been trying to do the math in my head and figure out how many months pregnant a woman is. It's like, they get to like nine and a half 10, it's like closer to 10 than nine. Oh, I thought the whole time it was like a whole year zero thing. No, no, no, no, no, it's longer than you think. This is that bodybuilding forum. Yeah, yeah. Right. But in Arizona, though, they don't change the time. Yeah, it's true. So it's eight and a half. All right. So yeah, we're back. We'll chop it up. I don't think I've seen you guys since then. Have we like in person? I saw you in New York at one point.

Yeah. I don't know. I was driving over here. I realized the pandemic, I haven't, frankly, I haven't seen anybody, but like, yeah, I mean, Titus and Russell are like hardcore, like stay in their house. COVID scary. Yes. Yes. We've been living our life for a while now. And you know, maybe, maybe everyone in Barstool got COVID. That might happen. We all have a lot of natural immunity. Yeah, I got twice within like a three week span. Every time there's a couple guys that work there, the desks alone, I'll be like, all right. Well, Ryan asked us to put on masks when we came out of his house today. He said, fuck you, Lib. Hey, look, the mandate's the 15th, you know, every time someone's like, Oh, so you guys went back to work really quickly. And I'm

like, yeah. And literally everyone got COVID. So probably not the smartest, but we did it. We were actually like ahead of the curve a little bit because we said, well, we're in each other's quarantine bubble. It'll be fine because, you know, it's just us hanging out so we can come into the office. Little did we realize that like three weeks later, everybody else also had that exact same mentality, but they were also coming to work too. So now all of our bubbles overlap. We didn't really plan this out that well. It was the Dabo method. Just everyone get it. Yeah, that's right. All the bowl games, we'll be able to play the bowl. No problem. Yes. I mean, have you noticed, I mean, basically once one league did it, everybody else,

the NBA just was like, all right, we got it, like a hundred positive tests in one day. I mean, the NFL playoffs, right. The NFL playoffs, nothing. No, I think we should give more credit to the NFL for stopping COVID and it's tracks. That's also the playoffs. I just wanted to tip the cap to Omicron for respecting big games as well that I noticed like college basketball teams were testing positively crazy when it wasn't necessarily a big game, but then the college and college football bowls were getting canceled, but the playoffs weren't. Yeah. And like the games that, you know, except for Michigan, except for your guys is, well, yeah, that was bad in Michigan, ducked Michigan state, Michigan did duck. Yes.

Yeah. But yeah, that's our COVID update. Anyway, Michigan's amazing. I mean, that's the kind of program. That's the template, right? Hardball owns Ohio State. We were just saying it before we started. That's a fact. No, but if you say like, what do I want my, if I get hired tomorrow by Auburn, it's like, what do you want to do? I'm like, I want to be Michigan to the south. Right. Exactly. I want to build, I want to bully ball. You just run the football. Yeah. How come you guys didn't think about stopping the run?

This is Dan, I was, I was prepared for you and I to be on a team like we are. Yeah. Big 10 versus Rosillo. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Rosillo doesn't like, I swear to God, at the end of the college football season, he was like, listen, a healthy LSU could beat every team in the country. Well, they beat A&M, came out in the last play against Spana, I don't know. There was one going back away. They were starting a fucking wide receiver in their bowl game against Kansas State. That game, I didn't like try.

But if you look at the recruiting, LSU should win this game. So actually, Ryan, I have a team this year will have 35 pros. I want to hear your thoughts because you know, like, we're probably the only bigger LSU fans than you are. No, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. And so they ask about you guys. I think they're done. I think they're done with you guys. There is some sneaky resentment that Rosilla holds told us towards us. Yes.

For loving LSU, but we're not going to apologize for loving LSU. What are your thoughts about Brian Kelly and his tenure there? Because right now I think we've, we've swung over, we still love LSU, but I'm rooting a little bit harder for it to be an absolute train wreck. Can't roof. Brian Kelly wins everywhere it goes. All right. I mean, it's not even. That's not why I can't roof.

Right. The dancing videos. That's not why I can't roof. All right. You want to go ahead and fill us in? Oh, I mean, he seems like, yeah, that just goes wherever the wind's blowing. Yeah. No loyal. I'm talking about him bouncing around jobs. Yes. Ryan.

Yeah. All right. Well, don't turn a minute, Todd Graham here. I mean, you get offered eight figures to go to LSU. I mean, you know, what's he supposed to do? I think Kelly's a winner and I think he's going to have an awesome staff. I think there's always a little hesitancy when you're not from there. Whenever you're a guy that's not from the south and you're at one of the schools, like, kind of, you know, look, you could say the same thing about a lot of the schools down south, but it's just, it's almost like you get an extra year of being disappointed if you're from the area.

Yeah. Like Scott Frost rule. Yeah. Scott Frost is Jim Harbaugh. Like if you. By the way, Nebraska was good. You were on that all year. That was one of the best, worst record teams this year. The best three-win team I've ever seen in my life.

Every game they played within eight points. Two of 30 for 30 on it. It was crazy. Like, seriously, they. That's a team that's. They could have, they could have kept the semifinal closer than Michigan and Georgia. Wow. They could have been, they could have been within,

they probably would have played Georgia within like eight points. I swear to God, I swear to God. I don't know how it happens. I'm quite ready to go there yet. No, I am. Especially when we're talking about Michigan being the model. God damn it. No, but that's Nebraska.

Nebraska though, what they, sorry, and I'll shut up, but like Nebraska, that's when you're like, I'm scambling's awesome. Yeah. Cause I figured out this team where they're getting too many points because I watch them every week and whatever. Anyway, you guys have more important stuff. I'm just. No, I think, I think what just happened right there by the way is,

has been me every time I get out of my house is that like I get in front of somebody and I just like see my little window to talk about something. Cause I haven't really socialized much. And then we just go nuts talking to like you, we just make one little comment about the big 10. And now we're going to go for like every big 10 school going over their depth chart. Purdue had a pretty nice season. You know, big win.

Anyway. Purdue didn't screw around. Did you guys want to do a big 10 recap? I'm ready to do it anytime you want. Indiana. I knew there were frauds. So what's the long, how many days, as long as you've gone without talking to a person, Titus?

Uh, 30 days, 40 days, uh, like outside of my, like I'm not counting. Yourself and not counting face time and, and yeah, and calling people. Oh, you had a girlfriend this whole time. I don't want to hear about it. Yeah. You don't know hard living. It's not hard mode. Right.

Rosella like opened up his house and was like, welcome, welcome. This is a nice, I gotta say, by the way, I was, I was wondering where my ringer salary went and to see it. It is, it is a sight to behold to be here. It's actually a really nice house. So I'm, I'm a little bit concerned with how clean it is. That's me. What if this isn't my house?

Yeah, that would be great. That would make, this actually does feel like an Airbnb that somebody set up ahead of time, with the exception of Ryan put up his storyboard from his latest screenplay, which he spent a long time working on. And we came in, we looked at it and I was like, oh, you got a little four-act screenplay over here. And I started reading the actual notes on it and I didn't want to be rude, but I was like, how the fuck does any of this make sense?

And then we came back upstairs later and, and Ryan was like, I thought you guys would take a closer look. And then we realized it was a joke with just a bunch of notes down from the world's worst movie in pre-production. But yeah, this place does, it feels, it feels very clean to me, which is concerning because you spend a lot of time in here, apparently. I just hit a certain age where I go, I just sick of looking at stuff. You know, I don't want stuff around.

This Japanese minimalist is the inspiration behind the finishes here. Although a lot of the, the wood is Russian oak, reclaimed Russian oak. What is that age? The reclaimed Russian oak? No. Well, there's different various stages of Russian history. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm actually. Xiris woods for many times.

It's actually funny because it's like, if we're going to, you know, hop into some life shit, it is very funny to, I think that your past that age or were past that age a long time ago, but like, when you hit that like 27 or 28 and you're like, I don't, I kind of don't want to live in a dump all the time. Yeah. I don't want to have the remote. It's about that age where I had a friend go, all right, what are you

going to do? You want to do the game? And he goes, I don't want to watch the game at your house. It's always a shithole. And I went, not wrong. Yeah. He's not wrong. And you know, I just always had stuff.

There was always stuff on the couches, you know, when I grew up, I'm the oldest of five, our houses was fucking trashed all the time. So like, if you have kids running around, your house is just going to be a mess. So like, I don't, you know, I don't know what it was. I sort of used to it. I don't think I was a sloppy guy. Titus has, has making money made it easier to get rid of stuff though. Like, is that part of it?

Like when you're sitting here and you have no money, you're like, I can't get rid of this shirt that I wear once a year because I might need it again or something. And then like, as you get older, you're just like, fuck it, I'll just buy a new one. And you just kind of don't need as much stuff. Yeah. Do you have a pile though?

Like a, like I have, I mean, everyone knows in our office I have, we're hoarders because we get shit sent to us. But I have, my house is very nice and neat. And then there's one closet that if you open it, it could fault like, I opened it once and like my son looked like was looking like, wait, what's in there? Like, like all these toys and all this shit that you've just been, do you have that closet here?

I do. I have a box. That's actually the life advice. You just got to find, you got to make enough money that you can have one closet with all your shit. I packed up a box when I moved from Burlington above the restaurant that I lived above. So when I started out on this career, this journey, it's like 20 years ago to like

the month, I packed up this box that I have just moved every time. So I've moved it from Boston to Jersey to the Vineyard to Boston to Hartford to West Hartford to LA or to Malibu to LA. And the thing is, I haven't opened it. And it's just a bunch of weird shit. Can we open it? Yeah, what's in the box? Can we go open it?

What's in the box, Ryan? Open it. I don't even know what's in it. It's just, I was like, hey, I'll just put this, the weird shit will be in here. Yeah. And then I was like, you know, I haven't had a moment where I can like, hey, I want it. So maybe we'll do it.

Not tonight though, no way. But that is like the, I feel like if you open the box, you're like, there's something about breaking that seal. Like you've gone all this time without looking. Like the ring? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I could just break down.

I don't want that to happen. When Ryan comes back. Yeah, I missed that. 2002, Ryan. I don't love his bank account, but I do miss that guy. Yeah, there's definitely, there's a lot of times where I'm like, you know, especially like on the weekend when I'm, you know, doing a lot of parenting, and I'm like, I miss the dude who can just go and get drunk at a bar at like noon.

But then you don't really miss him. But you do. What is the biggest difference between having the two kids? Not emotionally. Cause like, I mean, your answer is going to be like, you know, I love more, blah, blah, blah. Who cares? That is the truth though. That's one of those ones that like, if you don't have kids and I don't,

I'm not shaming anyone, but like when you do have a kid, you're like, oh, fuck, this is completely different than anything else. I have a dog. I get it. It's a love you can't understand. What is the biggest difference day to day life or like the thing you've had to cut out that you didn't anticipate having to cut out and having kids? It's like there's no, there's like very little time where I can just do nothing.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's very, there's like maybe it's like Friday night and then like maybe like an hour or two on like a week night where I can literally just do absolutely nothing. That's the part like where you can't like, I can't just like sleep till 11 and be like, I'm going to do nothing on Saturday. Yeah. That's, I'd say that's the biggest time thing.

But it's, you know, it is what it is. Right. Don't have kids. I actually think you should, but who me or all of us. No. Yes. Yes. Why'd I get to know?

I just, I don't know. I feel like I like to examine this a little further. I do feel like I might be on team no kids. Yeah, which is fine. I mean, I don't think it's for it. Why don't you commit to it then? I don't think I'm ready to commit to it yet. All right.

But I feel like team no kids is, I don't know. It's a selfish thing to say, but I'm completely open with the fact that I'm okay having no kids. And I feel like my biggest fear is that I'll get to the age of like 50 and 60 and be like, I wish I had had kids earlier. Yeah. Not like, like, I'll, I'll, I'll look back at myself. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. True. True. I wish I had had kids earlier and I had kids when I was 34. Yeah. That's not that late. You start to do the math and you're like, oh, I'll be this age when

they graduate from high school, this age when they get married. And then you're like, wow, that's pretty old. But then wait five years from now, that's going to be even older. And so I think about that. But I'm like, I don't, I really do not want kids right now. I mean, I don't think, yeah. I don't think you're ever ready, right? Like you're never, there's never a time when you say you're so,

or you're the one that's been through it. Yeah. I think you're, there is a weird thing that like switched in my brain where I was for a very long time, like, I don't want kids. And then like kind of right around like 33, 34 is like, wait, I kind of do want kids. I mean, I, I definitely want kids. I know that I want kids at some point in my life. I think that's, that's something I would like to do.

But I, at no point, if you ask, like right now, if, even if I would happily marry and whatever, I don't want kids right now. Right. I'm not going to want them next year either. Like every time you ask me, I'm going to be like, not now. I don't want to fuck up what I got going on right now. It did kind of switch in my brain where it was like one day it was like, no, I don't really want kids in the next.

I was like, actually, I kind of did. Yeah. And I, I also think that like the internet does a terrible, like it's, it becomes like kind of cool to complain about your kids online. Yeah. And it's like, that's so lame. I, I, I don't like to do that because I think it's just lame and also someday your kids probably going to read it.

And it's like, I, and I, and I also like to start to lead into it. It's like when Russell Westbrook ends up on the, to be totally honest though, like I, it's fucking fun. Like it's actually like a ton of fun. And it's very different and it's hard, but it's fun. So if there was a mistake and there was a child on the way for me, I would be, fuck yeah. I'd be like, okay.

Yeah. Right. You really, you, you adapt very quickly. Yeah. Does that make us, does that, I'm with you PFT that like, but does that make us cowardly that we, we don't have it in us to just like dive? No, I got cum. We, we, we can't just like step up and be like, all right, let's take this

challenge on. We have to like let the challenge accidentally approach us and then we can handle it. It's interesting that you say that. Cause I feel like that's how I've kind of stumbled into a lot of different things that I've done in my, I've like been forced into situations that I did not initially want to get into. Right.

And I'm like, okay, let's do this and make the best of it. And then I'm always like really happy afterwards. Right. So maybe it does, maybe it just takes like one night, one really strong swimmer and that's it. Uh, I had, I remember the first time I thought I was going to have a kid. I was 21. Ooh.

Yeah. I headed back to UVM for my senior year and this older woman fitness instructor, no big deal. She was like, I'm pregnant. And I was like, this is going to fuck up my senior year. So that would, that was definitely a time I wasn't ready. And it wasn't going to turn back on anytime soon. And then, uh, guess what?

Magic of science. Um, I think she was just fucking with me. See an hour rack, pretty nasty. That's actually a funny. Well, it wasn't funny for me at the time, but I remember being like, well, fuck, like, I guess how am I going to do this? Like, this isn't going to, this is going to, like, can I go on Thursdays still? I'll cut off Wednesdays.

Right. Right. Like, will it be a custody thing? Cause I'll definitely like not have 50 50. I'm 21 and in school and like, we have a dog and there's six of us. So the kid can't probably stay with us that much. So, um, anyway, you know, look, uh, didn't happen. And here we are.

So we should also acknowledge that we're having this, this serious conversation. Ryan's wearing shorts that are what, yeah, like three inch. And these are five, but my thighs have been blown in up this past year. The shorts are short enough that you're like, I don't want kids. They're gross. You know, I didn't mean to sit next to you guys like this, but there, there's so much thigh right now. I mean, my thighs have definitely improved.

I know for a PFT teardrop level, but you know, we're getting there. How are your legs? How are your legs? My legs are not as good as. So I spent like this last year or so just working on cardio. And then in the last month, Billy's got me in the gym working out more. So the, the thighs are going to come back soon, but they're not where I'd want them to.

Those things are going to pop. How about you Titus? You, you know, you're all, you're all cars. I'm all cardio. I'm wasting away. You're Cal. And I'm curious your thoughts on this, Ryan. Like I, I strangely am not insecure about it because I, I don't look bad.

You're just like, I'm very, very thin. I have noodle arms. I have noodle. Like I'm, I'm fully aware of this, but I like it. I feel great. I love Cali. I love running. I love, I'm being, I don't know.

But then like part of me is like, like if I was wearing five inch inseams, I would, you know, it's, it's a disaster down there. Be honest. How often do you take a look at fat Titus? And you're like, oh, all the time. This is awesome. That's why I don't want to look like I'll go through phases where, where I also am like, I need to start lifting more.

And I, I, I will lift hard for like a month. And then I look in the mirror and I'm like, Oh, it's happening again. I'll live in bigger again. I'm, I just, yeah. Well, just from lifting or eating. Well, he's a beast when he lifts. Yeah. I know.

Yeah. I was, I was original Zion. Like we, we were over this the first time. Hey, you remember Zion? You remember him? I think we're still said that he was his third best all time. No, I said he was my favorite single player to watch last season. Did set a record for points per 36.

Didn't know you were getting stats in this pop, but I got a few for you. What are his points per 36 this year? Zero, but he hasn't played yet. So it's actually, you know, how much does he weigh? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know right now. So would you, was it you who's, I don't know.

I, someone was like, yeah, Zion, like people were saying he was 300. And then people were saying, and then like some, like the Pelicans were correcting and being like, no, he's 280. It's like, but that's still, I think they very big, but that's not good. No. I mean, what I've heard about Zion is a lot like Titus. Like you had to figure out a little later in life. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're doing, you're doing strictly cardio now. Did you, I do basically like, I, back to the point was like, I, I, if I put on like three pounds, I start freaking out and I get PTSD from when I was like fat. And so I, I just go, I, I stop lifting and I'm like, I'm getting too big and I'm not even getting big. I just like freak out.

So I just start running more and I, I like it. I like the life I have, but I also realize, you know, I'm getting my ass kicked in any, that's okay. It would be very, very funny though. If you got really fat, like all time fat to the point where you could go show up at pickup games and just looks like a, yeah, be the last one picked and then get out there and start weddings. Are you playing at all?

I'm not. Where do you play up here? It's hit or miss for me. You're going to come up. We'll, we'll figure it out because we had, I was asking, um, Spencer Hauses in the area. Yeah. And I was, you want to come play and he's like, do you really want me to come play with you guys?

I'm like, I think he's like only still 30 and he's six, 10. Yeah. It's crazy too. Like the, I mean, you know, Mark, because you played with those guys, but like the pickup game I play in, there's this one guy who played in Europe and it's like, he just dunks on everyone. It's like not fun. My problem is like, dude, what do you do?

My problem with pickup is, uh, it's, I'm at the, like the perfect level where I can't enjoy it no matter what. Like I'm, I, I'm better than everyone for the most part, but I'm not so good that I can do that where I could just like go out and dominate everybody. Like he doesn't try and he just went, but I'm good enough to where I get frustrated when no one, if no one knows how to play, I lose my mind about like, yeah, yeah. Are you still just like calling out screens and I'll go nuts. But that's fair.

But the flip side of that usually like people that are in that position are then so good where they can just dominate and I'm not good enough to like, you know, but do you just, do you still light it up? Like how like, can you just not play for six months and go out and just rain? Uh, my ball handling will go. Ball handling is the first thing to go. Ball handling is terrible. Cardio, it takes me a while, but shooting.

Yeah. Like once I, if you give me like 10 minutes to warm up. Yeah. Like I'll, I'll, I'll just go nuts. Yeah. I can. That's like a superpower. I mean, it's the coolest thing.

That's right. I'm almost, I'm going to leave my house. Yeah. No, it's, he lives here now. From my perspective, when I was playing ball, when I was like 13, uh, if I was shooting and, and my shot would hit like the left side of the rim, I would just compensate and start to aim for the right side of the rim. Like a sniper.

Yeah. Yeah. So if, so if you, I'm, it's like I'm playing the wind indoors. Like something's off about my shot. Yeah. And all of them to the left for you, if you're like, if you hit like the back room a couple of times, you're like, I'm going to start aiming for the front of the net or you just like,

start making the actual basket itself. Yeah. I don't know. You just, you just don't do that anymore. I don't know. It's hard to describe. Like you just adjust. Just a feel.

I don't know. Yeah. It's just a feel thing. It's all, whenever I try to talk about it, it's like, well, you didn't play in any games anybody ever cared about. I'm like, yeah, but I still do understand. Like my whole point about Steph is he's the greatest shooter because every single calibration of the release is like, he's dialed it in that much.

So if it's a floater and he has this amount of momentum going forward, then it's calibrated off of his hands. If his legs are strong, it's less out of his hands. If his legs are weak, he gives it more. And it's like, obviously Titus knows what I'm talking about, but no one ever wants to listen to me talk about it, even though it's like, well, I have also shot a basketball. I don't know how many fucking times because it's probably the only thing I really enjoy. It's like, I mean, it's like watching Ray Allen.

Like when you watch Ray Allen, it's every single time is the exact same time. And it's insane to watch because you're like, how do you, how does he do it every single time? He exactly the same. You know what's crazy about Ray Allen though? And I remember because I was working with the Celtics at the time, he came in and said, I tweaked it a little. He was told Donnie Marshall, who was his boy from Yukon, was the co-host of the show

that we were on. We were doing, you know, pre-off post, Hank knows. And he was like, Ray fucked with his release. And I'm like, come on, Ray, like what? And he's, and he showed and he was like, he had this little, like, final little, like, thing at the top of the release. And it was even better because Ray was like, I tweaked it a little, like a golf swing. He goes, wait till I see it now.

So actually your point is, for the most part, accurate. I just, if there are any huge Ray Allen fans. Yeah, they're like job because nobody's talking about it. Ron, you're old. How come people didn't shoot three pointers in the 90s? It was, you thought you needed to run everything through the post. You know, honestly, this isn't really that different than, I mean, Al Jefferson, I think, got 20 post touches a game in the NBA for a season, not 10 years ago.

So I think, much like the shot clock, where they were like, enough of this, we need a shot clock because guys are just icing the ball the entire time. Mike in years, bringing a shot clock. I think you should get rid of the three. Really? I love that. Let's go. Oh, here we go.

Has to take I was waiting for. So, and do what? Get a four? Yeah, four. Hard to be psyched to be like, now I don't have to cross half-court as much. It's very frustrating that everybody can shoot now. Like when I was my generation, which I'm like Steph's age and Durant's age, like when I was playing basketball, I was a specialty.

I was like the reason I was on the, I had value to like my AU team that I was on, was I was the shooter on the team. Like no one, everyone kind of had their own little role. Now, like if our AU team was coming up, Greg Odin would be jab stepping and shooting three. Yes. And they would have no purpose for me. I would, I would. Joe Harris got paid.

Yeah, but Joe can do a lot of stuff. No offense. Are the, the. No, but you can still. I was kidding. Go ahead. Three point specialists are dying is what I'm saying. I'm worried.

I'm worried about the three point specialists when you have guys like, like freaking pal, like all the guys in the, the, the Jabari Smith and Palo and, and Chet Holger and you got guys that are that big that, that are now. Yeah, that's stupid. How stupid they are. How do we fix that? How do we, what about? No, look, the shot making, that's what was always so stupid about these arguments.

Like it's just so weird that we had a collection of like 20 guys that played in the same era, just simultaneously shitting on every guy that played now. Like it was just a strange thing. Like humans have evolved in every single way, except we're supposed to believe that basketball players are going and they hop his direction because the shot making alone is crazy. But the line, like there's nights where I watch games like, oh, cool. You guys are going to take 60 plus threes combined.

And it's just like, you're not even doing anything. So not to say that like cuts and elbow cuts and pinch posts and all of this stuff are double posts. Like people would actually have two guys on the lower blocks and set up their office. Well, and that was crazy. That's also why the Warriors were so much fun. Cause it wasn't, everyone thought it was just threes, but it was, there was a lot of other stuff.

And they also had two of the best three point shooters of all time. And that whole run, they were, if they weren't first in defense, they were, they were second or third. And then they, the final year when they lost, everybody got hurt in 19, they had slipped a little bit, but it's just become an NBA pod. I know. There was a wizards coach who went into the stands tonight. Yeah.

Yeah. For what? He, some guy was talking shit to him. You know how DC is. And he just turned around. He had it. He almost went like Steven Jackson. But I think Montrez, Harold grabbed him and brought him to the back.

So didn't get, didn't get ugly. I'm going to be mad. There was a fan in the stands in DC to go. What, what age? Passionate. Who's passionate about it? I'm, I'm, I'm passionately apathetic about the wizards. I will not ever care about, I can guarantee you, I will not waste a second of my time

worrying about the Washington wizards. You know, a better question though. What age should you stop saying, fuck you loser to pro athletes? Oh, good. That's a good life advice. Yeah. Like, uh, what, at what age should you take a step back? I think it's not, I think you don't lose it.

I think you just internalize it better. Like I was, there was a, uh, the UNC Louisville game last week where it was very much rigged and I had Louisville and I got very angry. And I thought in my head, I wonder what this ref's name is. Like, I'd like to find out. And they're like, you know what? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're an adult.

You have two children. Chill out. So I think. What were you going to do? Tweet about him? I don't know. I just had the thought. I just had to figure out a connection.

That's sentiment nasty. I was very upset. Nasty letter. But that's the thing is I think you don't lose it. You just know how to bottle it a little bit more. Yeah. The initial thought still enters the brain. Right.

So how you handle it after that. Yeah. You don't act on them. You've got the consequences to your actions. Right. You, you learn how to be a sports fan where you can have a little bit of perspective where you're like, for 10 seconds, you can still get very upset. And then you can be like, you know what?

This is stupid. It's also, it's weird to me to get mad at somebody who's younger than me. Yeah. You know, well, the ref probably is older. Ref's older. So he's a fair target. But if it's, if I'm watching like a college game, I have a hard time getting mad at any of the players.

You can't, I think the, the move is you have to get mad at the collective. It has to be the kids these days. Yes. Or the coach. It has to be the, the, the, the, the culture of. Tick tock. Yeah. Yeah.

It can't be like individual people. Like life hack is I just say, I just say they're just kids. And everyone knows that when I say they're just kids, it's, I really fucking hate this kid. I can't believe this game. But you just say they're just kids and it's good. Right. Right.

They're just kids. Right. You get mad at the system. Right. Because you get older. Yes. No, but you can't, it is weird. People get mad at like college kids like fucking, you can't get mad.

Have you ever sent anything to a recruit that turned down Wisconsin? I did. I did slide into Kail Williams DMs. Well, I did. I mean, what do you want me to say? I did. Did he respond to you? No, he didn't.

He didn't help. How long after you DM him did he commit to USC? It was about a week, week and a half. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was like, and I had some conversations with some people at Wisconsin and I was like, listen, if you know his people, like tell him, like we'll make a t-shirt and we'll sell it and it will be sick.

Wait. So there's a question. Who would have made more in the NIL Titus or PFT? That's a good question. Well, probably Titus because he'd be like, I'm not good at sports. Yeah. Titus would have cleaned up, dude. You would have cleaned up.

You would have cleaned up all this character. His t-shirts. He would have made a t-shirt with. That was the Katie Nolan t-shirt. Yes. You would have made a t-shirt with bar stool and you would have sold, like we made a hat with Wisconsin safety that sold like, I think it was like 15 or 20,000. That's awesome.

I'm happy for him. Like D, 15 or $20,000 she made. Oh, I was going to say, but we'd go out in LA seeing this guy's hat on. But those are like, you know, you would have. I sold, when I was in school. He would have. Yes. We made, we made club chill shirts.

We took the Run DMC logo and made the shirts. My buddy was like screwing around with graphic design. And so his idea was like, we're just going to parody like iconic logos. So we started with Run DMC because it's the easiest one. It's red bars and then letters. And then he, he just bailed on it. So that's, that's why that became like the logo was like, I'm going to make a bunch. And he had all these ideas.

He did one. He quit. So that kind of became. Sounds like every college. Yes. Like this is going to be sick. Zuckerberg over here. I had a buddy who made like probably about five grand off of just fuck Ohio State shirts.

When we played Ohio State. We sold those shirts then I made, I think it was 55,000. I couldn't keep it all. I made my senior year at Ohio State. I made $55,000 that I had to donate to charity. That was part of the deal. So there's this, there's this charity in Columbus. You kept a lot.

It's called a kit again. It's like a make a wish type deal. You don't have to pretend stuff. It's been a long time. Making most of your way. I was going to say, I, I, so I give all the money to this, to this charity. And the guy who runs the charity, every time I see him to this day, it's been like 10, 15 years now.

He thinks I'm like a saint. He thinks I'm like the nicest guy in the world because I gave him like $55,000. And I'm like, I cannot stress, I cannot stress enough. I would have kept all of this. Yes. Every single dollar. Every single dollar. Wait.

Did you guys, I feel like you thought it was weird that I slid into cable and DMs. No. Cause you DM a lot of big, big heavy hitters. Like why, why wouldn't I? I just wanted to let him know. I think it's fucking weird. A couple of sigh right there. Yeah.

And then you go, no, all right. Yes. It's a dangerous precedent. It's a dangerous precedent. It's a, it's. To me, it's like, I don't know. I, if I have, if I can even change your mind by 1%, why wouldn't I, why wouldn't I try? What was your pitch?

I was like, Hey dude, like we could, you know, if you ever wanted to make merch, we, we, you know, with my push. And I was like, you come on our podcast. Also, Madison is awesome. We still have the caller daddy merch. I don't know. I would have, I would have been mad at myself if he's like. Some crops.

Yeah. Like, yeah, I guess I care too much. See, here's the thing. This is a way worse answer than the first one because I just always assume it's default to content. No. I think it's hilarious. No, I want to be a booster. Yeah.

You were serious about trying to close the deal to Madison. If I don't, I'm very realistic. I don't think Wisconsin will ever win a national title in basketball or football. So if I could ever get. That's ridiculous to say in basketball, you're on the cusp of it. Like it can happen. And then coach K fucking cheating. All right.

But what I'm saying is that like when you're like to rule people out or rule teams or players, like I don't like when somebody says, Oh, this person's never going to win anything. No, that's the easiest thing to say because the math is in your favor that your point is going to be right. But when you're on the cusp of something like, look how bad Auburn is right now. They played for two national titles in almost a decade plus. It doesn't, what is this ran about again? Anyway, the point is that you can't say never.

You can't say never about Wisconsin basketball. I can say never if I don't try to get myself in the game here. All right. See what you're doing. I would love to be a booster. I would love to be a booster. When do you become a booster? I would drop bags if I could.

I don't know how. Yeah. I think Docker is coming to play. Yeah. Yeah. If you got the cell phone on the belt on the outside of your pants. Yeah. You're a booster.

You got to just take a bunch of like meetings and fucking hotels. I hear what I hear what you're saying that it could, if you could affect it. Even a half a percent. But it's just, I don't know. I'm asking this guy about boosters. I'm saying this is weird. I'm saying this is a guy, I don't DM anybody. I think texting anybody is wrong.

Yeah, you are. I mean, you're a little anti-social. I'm like, no one wants to hear from me at all. So maybe I'm not the guy. Which is very wrong. Yeah. Yeah. So I couldn't imagine doing that.

But you know, you're different. You do, to your credit, you do slide into DMs a lot of different people. Do you still DM with Durant? That's probably the, is that the most famous person you DM with? I've given up DMing with him. Yeah. Because he just, I don't know. I don't know.

It feels like there's more on this story. No, he just doesn't, he doesn't. I don't think he wants to come on. So I've given up. I think you've become, we've become as a podcast too nice to Kevin. Yeah. We're pro Durant. He used to actually hit Big Cat back way more frequently.

Yes. With his shit on him all the time. I called him David Back Bitch. Yeah. And then we changed our tune on Durant because, and I think we're being honest about it now where it's, it's kind of relatable and endearing how much he's online and how good he is at using,

now that he's taken all the A material that he was putting on his burners and he's using that just from his main account being like, fuck you to people on Twitter. Now we kind of like him. I, I also think like, I, I think that people not replying on Twitter is weirder than people replying at this point. Like when, like when I reply to someone, they're like, oh, your trigger is like, I'm on here.

Like why wouldn't I engage? I think it's weird for people to just tweet into the void and never respond to anyone. What? You think that's weird too? Oh, I know you're talking about me. No, I'm not. I never respond. No, I know, but I'm not talking about you. You have your own way, which I think is like, that's your personality.

I'm just saying, like people all, when Kevin Durant responds, everyone's like, oh, he's triggered. Oh, you're too online too much. Like I think it's like, no, dude, he likes to respond to people. You're right about that because here's the disconnect. It doesn't mean anybody's necessarily like wrong in it, but there's definitely a group that's wrong. Whatever it is that we do, there's not a moment where we say something where it just

just like, it's always, there's always a thought. Like you could say the most inane thing ever. And then it's like, okay, well, here's this million reasons why you're wrong or you missed this point and it's like, it's these fucking training wheels of opinions where it's like, no, no, here's what you need to do. When you do it every single day, like you're just going to be different. You're going to be different because like, I know when I'm thinking about an argument that I want to make, I'm thinking about every single possible fucking angle.

And it actually can make you worse at making your point because you're deflecting things that aren't even there yet. But what I would ask anybody, like if you actually knew what that was like, if you knew what it was like, you would never say to somebody, oh, you're triggered. Because you're like, wait, so the one time I decide like, hey, dude, actually it's this. And that's the thing that always annoys the fuck out of me about it. Because you'd be like, wait, so I never say anything. And then I said something and you think I'm over here fucking sad about it.

Right. Also, I forgot, like we should just say this right now. Ryan has figured out a really smart life hack, which I know we'll get to some. If he ever wants to reply to someone, he'll just text me and be like, look at what this person said and I'll just reply literally every time. He gets me in trouble all the time. I'll just fucking reply and roast someone because he knows that he like, I can't stop myself. I do it all the time. I'm like, oh my God, you believe this one and then like 30 seconds later,

like I was one. I mean, my favorite ever, the Florio content. I sent one, it was, it was the Saban thing and it was like the opposite. Like Saban was basically saying, like you guys really want us to do the NIL. Like it hasn't been bad enough for you guys. Right. All right, rev the engines. And then Florio was like him making excuses for why he's going to lose.

And I went to big house like, what the fuck is he talking about? I just like, look, there's a notification that comes up because like, or maybe the opposite. It wasn't 60 seconds. Like he may have done it before we hung up. Yeah. So you have the life hack there. All right.

Yeah. You can just send me after people start doing it more. We'll be back with some more from Titus and Rosello and us before we do that. Those sling go to sling.com slash barstool to sign up now and try it for free. If you love watching live sports, but you're tired of the high prices, it's time to take control your TV experience. It's time you got sling. Sling is a place where your favorite sports channels like ESPN, FS1, TNT,

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We did post out being like, what do people want to talk about? One of the replies was, when do you stop doing hard drugs? Which I thought was very funny for our audience. That's a very good question. When I know the answer, I'll let you know. I don't know. I mean, yeah, Ryan, do you want to say, you look like a show. Oh, it's just what this was, is we're not even taping right now.

Yeah. No, I don't know. I'm good. I was never super interested in it. So I don't, I don't know what to tell anybody on that one. Yeah. No, I just thought that response was very funny because it was like, I don't think we're the ones that should be. Oh, oh.

Give me advice about that. Like we should maybe see someone. You know what I think is weird though, like when they're handing out the dare t-shirts when you're in sixth grade and shit and you're like, yeah. Signing contracts. Like no doubt. No doubt. And then you'll have like a buddy's got three kids.

He's like, I took stems on a Tuesday. You're like, what the fuck? Is this what, is this what happens? So, you know, for any sixth graders, listen, don't, you know, like. Don't sign a contract. Yeah. Just wear the shirt. But yeah, you never know. Yeah. The shirt's cool.

It's retro cool. Yeah. That's a, that's a good, I go elsewhere for your drug advice. That's what I'll say. Yeah. Don't do drugs though. Fentanyl's out there. Fentanyl's bad. Yeah.

You're in the same room as Fentanyl and you breathe it. I know you guys are in LA this week. I'm worried about you. We don't, we actually don't do drugs. I got, I got this label as being the drug guy on the podcast. Wonder why. It was probably after you did ecstasy in Hong Kong. It was MDMA and it was, it was a former protest.

I think it was exactly after that. It was a former protest against the CCP that was trying to exert foreign influence and violate Hong Kong's sovereignty. How that didn't win an Emmy. I've watched that video with you and Donnie. More than 10, maybe less than 20 times. It's unbelievable. Hey Donnie.

Hey Donnie. Yeah. Donnie, I gotta be honest with you. Hey Donnie, I gotta be honest with you man. I was on a different planet. Were you having fun? It looked like it. I don't know. It looked like I was having fun in retrospect,

but all I remember during the actual feelings of the, excuse me, the MDMA was I was just like seeing stars everywhere. And then I would panic every like 30 seconds because I didn't know where my people were. And they were all next to me at the same time. It was fun to do one time. I'll never do it again. I don't think I'm ever going to take MDMA again.

It was one and done for me. There we go. So that's your drug talk. I also, I also felt like. Save some lives. In the, in the circumstance, I wanted to do it then because I was in a foreign country. So my brain told me, oh, you're overseas.

People do drugs overseas. It's like you're basically on vacation from laws. So I'll be fine. I thought it was, I thought I was in Amsterdam pretty much. Turns out that the drug laws in Hong Kong are way more strict and serious than they are in the United States. So that was, that was a mistake on my part, but you live and you learn.

I will never do ecstasy in Hong Kong again. Yeah. I mean, imagine seeing PFT in an episode of one of those Nat Geo shows. Oh, locked up abroad. I love those shows. What, what does it, what does it say about me that I love watching shows where people are in like really bad trouble? Because you've avoided it.

I have a buddy who's been arrested. I think he had a DUI in every state in New England and anytime cops would come on, he'd freak out. He'd like change a jail. We were just laughing about it the other day, like he couldn't watch cops. Like if it were on, we were counting out our tips and we'd come on at like three in the morning.

He would just go over and go like, just matter of fact, he couldn't handle the fucking flashing lights. Freak out. Can't do it. All right. So we do have Hank. So this is going to air right before he has to give the speech, but he's giving his first best man's speech ever next weekend

at his brother's wedding. So he asked for some advice. And I think, I think we've all done it at least once, a couple of times. Ryan, a couple of times. Done it. Yeah. Yeah.

I've not. You have not. Oh, I've not. I've not. Everybody says I don't have any friends. Oh, I've done a few. I've helped other people prepare for it. I'm usually just like the guy that's in the wedding party

that is just kind of there. Like I'll help. I'll pitch in for stuff if they're planning something, but I've never had the response. I do have a brother who got married last year, but it was during COVID. So I was going to be the best man then. He had just like a small, essentially like a courthouse

ceremony of the two of them to get it over with and done. So I've never had the opportunity to give the speech, but I have, I did start to write the speech for it. Oh, the, by the way, you brought up a point I've, I've said it a million times, but it needs to be repeated. The best like friend zone you can be in is getting invited to the bachelor party,

but not being in the wedding party. That's, that's the best spot. I've told friends, I don't even like, they'll be like, you want to be in the wedding party? I'm like, not really. Cause it's like a shitload of pictures and stuff. Pictures, a lot of pictures. Talks.

Rehearsal dinner though can be great. But you, you can kind of get, you can get invited to the rehearsal dinner, even if you're not in the wedding party. I've done that. Yeah. Like there's that, that zone where it's like, you're, if you can be like the seventh guy on a friend's depth chart, it's a great spot to be in.

I was a, a first alternate for the wedding. They make you an usher. That's the best. And it was, it was kind of crazy. Cause I went into this weekend like, okay, uh, this is going to be great. I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm best friends with a lot of people

that are in the party going to be an awesome wedding. Then one of the groomsmen breaks his ankle and his fibula the night before. That's a good thing we had an alternate. At the rehearsal. And then, so I'm sweating because I'm like, wait, am I, am I going to get the call to the, to, to the show tomorrow? Is that going to be me?

And then my buddy was like, I can do it. And he ended up just like, he was on crutches going down the aisle with like, with like a broken face and all this shit going down the aisle. Like I can still do this for my friend. Yeah. It was great. Oh man.

But it's, yeah, that's the spot though. If you can be invited to the bachelor party, but not have to be in the wedding party. Hank, what is the perception, what is your perception amongst the, I guess you don't have a microphone, but like my, my, when I gave mine, I, I subverted expectations, which is like,

I, every one of my family thinks I'm super famous because like I have a blue check mark on Twitter or whatever. So like my family, they had a good run. There was like hype around the speech. They're like, Mark does this for a living. I'm sure the speech is going to be great. I'm sure I can't wait to hear his jokes, all that kind of stuff.

And then I just kind of kept it straight and just said like nice things about my brother and kept it moving. And who I saved his life. Yeah. Yeah. You did save his life. I saved his life.

I really saved Mark's brother's life. So like what, what, what are, what is the expectation, Hank? I do think there is like a expectation for me to put on a show. Definitely like the outgoing one. Yeah. Always gotten in trouble and stuff.

I feel like, I feel like there will be some expectations similar to you where, you know, my family's expecting, expecting a show. So what, wait a minute, can I just, show? Show. They're like, they're like, they're like, oh, like this, this speech is coming.

Like something's coming. No, I know that. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, similar spot that you've been in. Yeah. The reverse is my brother, my brother's very shy.

Like, yeah, a little more guarded. If it was reversed, I don't think they would be expecting a crazy speech. Yeah. No, Hank, you, you like, like, you do, you have a job, you have a lifestyle that you're like, you're in front of a camera sometimes and talking to microphones and stuff.

So I think people go to, go to a ton of weddings and you see people get up there that are nervous. So anytime it's a situation where you know someone might not be nervous to publicly speak, you're like, oh, thank God, this is not going to be the world fucking speech I've ever heard. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. So then it kind of sets the expectation high. Yes. People are expecting it. Yeah. No, you're, you're absolutely right. I, so I have a couple of high level thoughts and you guys can go off of it.

But I already told Hank, I think this, I think you have to keep it like five minutes or less. I think anyone who goes longer than that is people don't. You mean every woman? Yeah. Well, I didn't say that you did. Yes. I did say though to Hank, I was like,

look, the science backs it up. Well, that's true what Ryan just said. You got to remember that you're not the star of the show. You got to remember that the stars of this show are actually the bride's dad and then her maid of honor. They're going to go super long. You're probably going to go on after the maid of honor. Your job is like people at that point are looking around

and like, when can I go back to the bar? Yeah, it's three to five minutes. The biggest thing though, you can't have notes. I think you have to speak from, I think the notes make you, the guy who goes up with, I've seen some really bad ones. They got nervous people are, they're not as seasoned as you are. There's one friend that's listening right now

that's going to know exactly, I'm talking about his wedding, but he brought like cue cards and it was, he forgot to mention the bride, which you can't, you have to mention the bride have to, but I think no notes is the way to go. I think you have to prepare notes and then don't use them. Correct, correct. But you have to, yes.

The worst thing you could possibly do is be the winged guy. No, you can't be the winged guy. Then that is, that is an absolute disaster. So, but it's like, Prepare the speech, but then don't, if you're up there reading notes. Yeah, you lose already, because everyone's like, wait, you need notes for this?

Like you got to be, it's got to be, because people will be like, oh wow, you really spoke from the heart. It's like, well, I did practice it, but yeah, you're right. I think it's a pretty simple formula for the most part. Yeah, Hank? Go up. Plus, is there a formula of like, you know,

old anecdote from when we were kids? Yes. Things he taught me. Yeah. Yes. Bride. He's a better person than me. That's usually a good one to be like,

you know, like, I've always looked up to him. Yes. Yeah. And a bride. Had a brown face, but you know, he's out of it. Yeah. No. Don't do the, don't, don't do the,

the one thing you can screw up, and a lot of people do it, is they do like the bride add-on at the end. They're like, everything I said about you, like, and it's your, your wife too. Like, you got to have a story about the bride. Yeah, the way to get around that is you, you talk, you find the things about your brother

that you appreciate about him that you don't have. And then you can say, like, this is what I've always looked up to him for. And then at the end, well, then also include one story about a time he got into trouble. And then everybody will laugh at that. And then not too much trouble.

Yeah, exactly. You have to be careful about that one. Yeah, you have to edit it a little bit. You have to be like, oh, I remember that time that he got busted with a hooker in Acapulco. Yes. Yeah. So you got to be like, you remember that time

where we, you know, we, we were on a road trip together or something like that, and you made the best play, like joke around a little bit about stuff, but don't make it too serious. And then at the end, say something about how she's so much better than he is. Yeah. Because that gets a laugh too, where it's like,

I always thought that you'd marry well, but I had no idea that you would out kicker coverage by this far. You know, like something nice. I hate jokes like that. Yeah, well. Yeah, that one's tough. I'm just saying, like, this is,

this is how you got to end it. Say that she's better than him a little bit. See, I think you got to, I think you have to add a story about her that doesn't, like you can't, the mistake you can make is like, you say a poll speech, you do four and a half minutes, and then the last 10 seconds, you're like, oh, it also goes for her.

You have to have a story about her, where you can say, Ryan. Did he ever tell you a story about meeting her? Right. There's got to be something in there about, that he met her, there had to be a moment that he shared with you about how he cared for her. Or just make it up. That's what I did for my brother.

I also have a total zag, because you said you wanted to give him a show and that your brother's quiet. Oh, I like this. It's a dying art, ventriloquist. And you bring one out, and you say it to your brother, and you talk to him and ask him questions and tell stories. And cause he's shy, you don't even have to be good at it,

cause he doesn't want to talk. He's in front of all these people. And that's how you play it off. You give your speech through a ventriloquist, dummy that you're not even using, cause your brother's shy. Just sock puppet. I got another one for you, Hank, that could, could bring the house down,

because your close personal friend, Tom Brady, has some time on his hands. Get him to give him a message. Play that. I do those for free, by the way. You do? Priscilla will do it for him. Yeah, that's probably going to bump people out.

But like when somebody asks me, somebody asks, I've been getting weird with them. Like somebody will ask me for a video on Instagram, and be like, hey, so and so is whatever. And like the last one I did, I was like, you know, I was DMing Julie for about six months, and I knew, and I don't even know who the person is. So I don't know how they're going over right now.

But yeah, I, I did something to, when my brother was like, hey, I'm having a kid. And I remember the story I told was I was like, oh no. Like, and then he was like, no, I'm so happy to have my own family. And so that was the pivot. I also did a little icebreaker. It's not the most original thing. I was like, I just want for the next 45 minutes or so,

take you on a journey of love. And tell everybody was like, Yeah, what? Well, most people are like, his fucking stories are long. You ever heard his podcast? But that, that was a nice little, you know, a little, little public speaking thing there, little jab joke.

Keep it moving. Homer says it wasn't, it wasn't 45 minutes, was it? It probably ended up going 45 minutes. Because you could see a couple people's faces that didn't know me were like, are you fucking kidding? But that's not even original. You got it though. Yeah, start with a joke and maybe a magic trick.

Yeah. You know any magic? Yeah. Yeah. You should do a magic trick. Do a card trick. And nobody, nobody can see the card. The pencil of the nose.

Yes. Yes. A flaming wallet. What's going on? I think Hank is left more confused by all of this. He looks terrible. Keep it short. No notes.

Make sure you don't just add on the bride as an afterthought. Those are my big things. You can also just plagiarize, which would be very easy to do. And it's not even really plagiarism. If you like look up an old wedding toast and it's written down as like an old wedding, you can be like,

did Russell Wilson do that with a Valentine? Oh, no, that was the greatest. For Valentine's, he wrote, I think it was a tweet and an Instagram post to his wife. Because as we were talking about this, I was going to tell Hank just whatever, watch him talk and do the opposite. And now I realized that he actually did.

Yeah. Like he just, yeah. He Googled how to describe a beautiful woman. Love, yeah. Yeah. And then he copied and pasted. Not even, he didn't even go, he didn't even click on the link on Google.

He just copied and pasted from the description underneath the link on the first page. And then he pasted that on the Twitter and that was, that's perfect. Actually, that's the best, that's the most like complete Russell Wilson move of all time. Yes. Yeah.

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That's getroman.com slash take. Yeah. Um, all right. Yeah, we probably left him more confused. Do we want to do our life hacks or did you want to do, I feel like we, I don't even remember what we talked about in the first one. We did kind of like, why should we younger some?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. It was like. Has anything changed? The players tripping. What has changed between the, can I start with that? Maybe like what, what, uh, I don't really remember all this.

We make $50,000 a show more now than we did then. That's cool. What, uh, do you feel like? I don't donate it. All right. In the last few years, like Dan, obviously you having kids, you've probably undertaken the biggest change out of anyone here, but uh, do we feel different from last time we learned anything?

Huh. The words like, you know, I said this on the last show, but actually now that I, cause I, I, I, I, I, I touched you guys this day that like I, I, I, it always trips me out that whenever I go back and look at something, um, you know, if I, something I wrote a year ago or two years ago, or four years ago, or like the, the time hop thing that's on like Facebook. Yeah.

Like, every time you see what you put on Twitter or Facebook or whatever five years ago, you're like, that guy's a fucking loser. Right. I was. I could do that with six months. So but then what you follow up to that is then you say to yourself, thank God, I'm not a loser anymore. But you know that like five years from now, you're going to look back on where you're at right now. So I guess, like, as you think back on that part of your life,

where is there anything that's like fundamentally different that you're like, I used to think this or I don't know, maybe not. Maybe the answer is no. I don't know. I do think that there's I've and maybe this is, I don't know. It's probably not COVID. It's probably just getting a little bit older. But there's definitely been more moments where I'm like, I kind of just hate the internet.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where it's like, I really just like, I wish I could just walk away from all of it. And that might just be having kids too. I don't know. But it's definitely, it's gotten like less fun to be online at times. And it's like, I think of the times when I'm having the most fun online, it's like strictly sports or strictly like,

you know, not taking nothing really seriously. And then it's just like everything else is kind of a bummer. Yeah. So I'd say that's the biggest thing that's changed, probably in the last two years for me personally. I've been saying that I'm going to cut back on the internet a lot more. But it's our job. But it's tough.

You guys are in it too much. It is. It's way too much. Like I, a lot of times I wish that I just could not look at my phone ever. Because I do feel myself looking at my phone way, way more than I should be. I don't, I've never even checked my screen time. Because I'm afraid of what it's going to be. You don't keep track of it?

I know. I'm cognizant of the fact that it's like too much, but it's also to be good at our jobs. Like we're, I do it. Here's something that might be good to have a broader discussion on. It's like, you guys are obviously at a higher level than I am in this stupid industry we have. And you've scratched and clawed your way to the top. And Ryan has made, has told a story a million times about where you start

and how he's got here and all this sort of stuff. How much of like your day to day, like now that you're, you're, you know, at the top of the mountain, so to speak. And we're at a beautiful house in Manhattan Beach. And like you've kind of accomplished it. Do you, do you, how much did, do you feel a change of like we have to stay here? Or is it like now I'm here, I can kind of like chill and I figured it out. Like I, I'm so glad I, you know, I busted my ass to get here.

Because now I can just kind of chill. Or is it like, is that what pulls you back to the internet is like, if we're not on the line at all times, there's going to be two shitheads. It just got out of college. It started a sports podcast. That's going to have to guard this. I've made peace with that. Yeah.

Yeah. Like that, that eventually, and I probably am like, you know, old at this point where it's like compared, comparatively on the internet. I was actually thinking about this today in prep for this podcast because it's like, it's actually the thing that frustrates me the most with some of the people, not any names. And people are going to be like, oh, he's talking about Billy. I'm not talking about Billy, but because they all like, oh, definitely.

Definitely. No, no, we have, we have an office, we have an office of like 23 year olds, right. And I think like I want to someday just walk away from it all, but I also do have something in me where I get extreme satisfaction of like doing like working really hard and seeing the results like the Berman interview that we did. Like that was a lot of work and it came out great and it felt awesome. And it's like, that's something that I just love. You know what I mean?

Like that, the act of going through the whole process of like getting a big interview, doing the interview, nailing it, having people enjoy it. I don't think I'll ever like be able to walk away from that feeling. And I also have to realize that not everyone has that feeling where they like love putting in like really hard work to try to get something that everyone loves. I don't know if that made any sense. Did it? I, it does because I feel the same way when it comes to like seeing the results of

something that you put a lot of work into, that's probably the most rewarding part. There are two things that I really enjoy. One is the feeling when I know that we are doing something that like in the moment, I can get an energy off of and the afterglow from that. Just the act of creating it is number one for me and then seeing other people appreciate it. That it's a natural like reward system where it motivates me to try to chase that high a little bit. But the problem with that is if you truly are chasing that, if you're chasing anything really, then you can find yourself in a weird position where you're not doing something

sometimes where it's because you want to be doing it or you're really feeling it in the moment. It's because you're still chasing, you know. The motivation is not internal. It's not internal. It's external from something else. But you know, like you try to minimize those situations or minimize those situations. But yeah, it all has to come organically. As long as that's still happening, then I can't think of like anything else I would ever rather be. Like I was telling somebody the other day, like if I had gotten to choose what my job was when I

was 21 years old, I would say exactly what I'm doing right now. Like probably nothing would be different at all. It's when people say dream job, like this is beyond anything that I could have even thought of at that point to be a dream job. Where are you going to say, Ryan? I'm not going to rest until I beat you two idiots. Well, that's the thing is like there will be there will be young people that come along. Big Cat just said though, like that's the scary thing is like you're and I mean this because you guys know how much I like you. You're runs insane. You're runs insane. And it's like, you know, you have those moments to be like, well, how long is the run?

Right. For me, you know, we've been over it because we're friends, but like I go, I was at ESPN for almost 15 years and the entire time, especially towards the end, I was like, wait, I'm actually doing like really well by any measurable metric. I was like, yeah, you're not really a star. And then I leave without any real understanding of like, I'm sure I'll do okay, but I don't know what's going to happen. And things have gone way better for me. But then I'll see something where there's like a list of the top 20 sports podcasts. And I go, are you fucking kidding me? They leave us off for other reasons. Right. But like, but when somebody isn't biased ahead of time, they pick you or they pick Bill,

which is totally understandable because you guys are, you know, at the top. But you're not the best. But no, no, but Donald's isn't the best. I don't, I don't, but you know, I'll see a profile actually kill you. I'll hear about something and I just can't ever sit back and, you know, sure, I should be able to say, all right, I'm this age, I can look outside at the ocean and all that stuff's going to be fine. And there'll be something that happens usually once a week with me where I'm like, no, fuck that. And I just want to work even harder because I don't feel like, again, this is a little different. I don't ever feel like I've been peaked. You know, I don't think I've ever had that moment where

people are like, Oh, you know, who's actually fucking really, really good at what he does, where even if you feel like people on the internet hate you guys, it's pretty understood in the industry, you guys have been monsters for a long time. So yeah, I mean, we, I mean, obviously the, the hate thing that that took a while for me to get over, like being like people just despise us no matter what. And where do you think it's at now from where you started to where it is now? It's way worse. But it's also I've gotten way more. What's way where you're way hated, you're hated more? The Barstool. Oh, Barstool. You're talking.

Yeah. And I, well, I hate Barstool, but I love PMT. And you love the dozen and checklists. Yeah. And yeah, he looks cool. I love him. No, but I Barstool. It used to, it used to affect me like really bad. Like, but now I don't know. You just get to a point where I think maybe it's just. If you don't get numb to it, then you'd be shattered. Right. Exactly. It would ruin me forever. And also, I think this is where you can use the crutch of like kids. And I know that sounds cliche, but like, there will be times where like the world will come at Barstool. And I'd be like,

like, I got to fucking put my, I got to do bath time with my son. Yeah. He doesn't want to fucking do kids. Like, I meant to ask this earlier, because we were talking about whether we want to have kids or not. One reason I have always wanted to have kids. And I will always think I want to have kids. Is that I think they'll help me chill out, which sounds insane because your, your, your life becomes more hectic dealing with them. But kind of what you just said, where you just kind of reassess your priorities and you're like, Oh, this, this 14 year old I'm fighting with on Twitter about James Harden is not actually that important.

It's actually, it's actually a weird like way to look at it though, because it's big picture. I'm a lot more chill, little picture. I'm probably harder to deal because I have less sleep. My schedule is crazy. And I know that. And I know like Hank and PFT and like all in Liam, like my schedule has to be like, is a little bit harder to deal with, which sucks. But like, yeah, big picture. It's a lot more like, do I really like, do I really care about this? No, but I actually wanted to bring up one other thing that has changed in the last couple of years. And I think this is something that like 20 year old to maybe 25, 27 or probably listening. I, I like have reached a point where I think it's

cool to care about some things like a lot. And I know we're talking about like being sports fans, like it's irrational. It's stupid. I think we're talking about DM and high school kids. Well, no, he's in college, Ryan. He's been in college for a year. So wrong, would never DM a high school class, unless he was a five star. And he was a quarterback. You said Rico. No, we classified. Oh, I thought you said Rico. I think there's like a feeling where it's not the guy that threw the fucking can at that. I don't want to get Hank going. Jesus. I think there's a level of like when you're younger. Wait, wait, you actually don't know Rico. Yeah, he does. You're not playing dumb. No, he knows. I lost track of what was

that. Cause I would, I, at first I was like, wait, that guy was that mad. I've gotten mad at work, but I go hide. There's been, there's been times when Ryan and I have talked and I've been like, dude, you would, you'd be awesome at partially. He's like, yeah, but like I'd show up and like some guy would throw a can in my head or like some guy would fucking just put a camera in my face and start fucking like busting my balls. I think I would lose it. I'm like, yeah. I have a buddy that, that every time some shit like that happens will text me and just say, how would you respond to that? It's a fucking weird world. But back to what I was saying, like I can just miss my head. I, I, I mean, my ruling, my initial ruling was, did you

see my initial? The worst tradition ruling ever. I don't fucking shut you know what to do. That's what I, that's what I love about big T is because he, he's kind of like you are sometimes where he, like your imaginary self working at Barstow where you just like have moments where you're like, what the fuck is going on? Like that's what big T was like. He's like, I'm, I'm at my job, at my computer and someone just assaulted me. I said something, this psychopath. Yeah, that was a bad, that was a bad initial ruling. I took it back, but I was just like, you were quick to get another, you were right. Cause I saw you at your angle. I was like, I literally was like, dude, it didn't hit you. What do you want me to do?

That was the parent in me where it's like, listen, I can't fucking, you parent it up quick. I was like, you, if you don't hit, if you don't hit your sister, like, I can't, that's another thing. If you have kids and other guys almost assault or break the, the cranial area of a coworker, you're just like, Hey guys, that's what I said. I was like, ah, let's, let's chill out. I think I said everyone chill out, even though it's like one of them almost got assaulted, but either, you know, there I, there is like a level when you're in your 20s and you think it's cool to just not care about anything, but it's like getting to a point where it's like, no, there's some things I really care about. And I really like, I am passionate

about, there's some things I don't care about and I'll tell you when I don't care about it. But having that like, uh, self-confidence to be like, I care about this when it doesn't go the way I want it to go. It's going to affect me and just being open about that. Right. You know, yeah. Like when Caleb Williams goes to USC, I fucking cried. Whatever. I think it is similar vein for me. Um, and it's not so much that I used to like pretend to not care about stuff. There would be things that I just wouldn't like. And I'd be like, Oh, that's not cool. Like stuff that I would actually kind of hate. Yes. You know, and a good example, actually, funnily enough, uh, on this podcast, I was like, I hated Drake. I would just be open with how Drake

sounds. And we were like, dude, wow. And, and every, and like, I was very mad that Drake was popular because I didn't like his music. And, uh, then I started to listen to it a little bit. And I was like, why do I, why do I hate this person? Like, why is this affecting me that much? Why is something that other people get joy out of making me feel angry at that thing? I think a lot of people, including myself at times still like make things that they don't like part of their personality. I think the more that you have that inside you, the less happy you will be with the rest of the stuff that you do actually like. Totally. So it's more about like accepting the fact that people like things and let them enjoy things that they like. When, when, uh, was it Joe who left impractical

jokers? Yeah. And everyone was broken up about it. And I used to like clown on it. It's like, wait, why am I, why am I making fun of people who like impractical jokers? If they, if they get, like, if they laugh about it and they like it, the fuck do I like impractical jokers? Yeah. Like, what do I care? But you know what I mean? Like, there's that shit. I practical jokers won me out because I left the, I left the TVs on true TV, you know, one March madness. Right. I, I, you watch college. The remote was over on the other side of the, the, the world. And then I just like, it was not funny for the first like five episodes. And then they slowly won me over. So it is, it is what pft. Sorry. I completely agree with like, no, yeah, that is where you're like,

why do I, why am I looking down on something if it brings other people joy? Yeah, it makes no sense. You're just being a fucking asshole. And I realized that it was like, it would make me feel better about myself. Right. There's something that people like that's actually not very good. Right. I know that me personally, I know they shouldn't be like, so it was like, it was a thing where I was able to think that I was better than other people, because their tastes were different than mine. And once you accept, once you realize what's going on, you're just happier about most other things in general. Right. Now I still have that like, there's still times where I find myself falling into that a little bit. I have to remind myself

a little bit. And there are also still times when it, it's, some stuff sucks too. Yeah. It's just, it's just fun to point out that things suck. I don't know. Network sitcoms. I mean, people like Big Bang Theory. Well, Young Sheldon is terrific. Don't get me wrong. But you know, look, there's not, there's certain shows that, but it's kind of like the writer. So you see it differently. Yeah. I mean, I'm like, where is this going? Oh, that was the layup. I, I think about the bowl game thing. Like when people get mad about all the extra bowl games, there's way too many bowl games. Don't watch it. Oh, I, no, I've definitely tried because I think, you know, when you're younger, a lot of the stuff that you're going through when you're

younger is kind of like your own insecurity. And I always try to remind this to like people, it's like, just remember like the other person you're talking to and all the insecurities that you have about yourself, pretty good chance they have just as many. So just, you know, go up and talk to the hot girl. Right. You know, there's a moment where she doubts herself and maybe that's that night. Yeah. You know, and who knows. But I think it's like a good rule to kind of operate with where you're like, you know, just remember like the stuff that you second guess yourself. You're not the only one doing it. Literally everybody else. And even though they're trying as hard as they can to project that they're not having any of those things, just like you do,

just admit that like, all right, this guy's probably got some weak spots. Let's go. It's absolutely. So, Ryan, you're right. But I also love that you're the statement boils down to like, you can fuck a really hot chick if you try. Don't give up on yourself. That's a little aggressive. I meant, you know, relationship with family. You're saying it links into what PFT said and what I'm saying about caring. Like a lot of times you, when you're younger, you're like, I don't care about this or this is cool to not. Yeah. Because you don't want to open yourself up to have someone be like, Oh, you like that? Yeah. It's the same thing too is, you know, where I went to school, you know, Vermont, smaller school for whatever reason, you know,

there's a ton of Boston guys, ton of Fairfield County guys. And then we'd always be like, why are you here when you from Arizona? But all we did was make fun of each other. That's all we did. So like the only way you could keep up, not that this isn't like, oh, wow, that was the college where college guys made fun of each other all the time. But like, I remember carrying it into our twenties and I would just be like ripping on everybody all the time. And then you're like, wait, you know, it was probably not a great time to hang out with guy who makes fun of everybody for everything. And it wasn't, I don't know if what it was, it was just what I was used to. I remember talking to my buddies being like, Hey,

do you have like weird moments at work? And a couple of guys are like, Oh my God, like I had to stop doing that a couple of years ago. Like I almost got fired. And what I'd say is that there are these moments, you know, like when you're in your 20 and you think you have, like this is a bigger thing. Like I'll use the hangover theory on this one. Like when you're hungover, you know, big night with the boys and it goes away like on Tuesday, it fucking goes away. Right. It goes away. It doesn't feel like it's going to go away. And you're like, should I take a foreign language? You know, maybe I finally learned an instrument this year. I'll get back on the dating apps. You know, I need to change things up. And then by

Tuesday, you're like, what a fucking weirdo I was for 36 hours. Right. What, what was that? Right. Did you write a poem or something? You fucking weirdo? Yeah. So it goes away. I'd say that you can expand life out that way because all of these little moments, all these little things, and I think this is, you know, we're all kind of around the age and obviously I'm older than you guys, but you start to learn like almost none of it ever fucking mattered. None of it. That all of it kind of goes away. And that's the one thing that I still try to, now that I know that when I'm dealing with something in the moment, you're like, you know, this is going to mean almost nothing. Like this is going to be completely insignificant.

And even though you're consumed by it today, you know that later on, this will have meant fucking dick. Yep. And it's hard to learn that until you go through it enough. But I would just keep hammering it over and over again. Like as you're aging and you're getting older, it's a great feeling when you start to be like, Hey, I want to be an asshole to everybody. But I also am like not going to worry about this stuff as much because it's not as significant on the path of the bigger stuff. Yeah, the world keeps on when you realize the world keeps on moving. It's a freeing thought. And you're like, Oh, this is not the end. Not everybody is thinking about me. Nobody really cares. I mean, obviously, your podcast, a lot of guys talking about you

guys, but there definitely have been big moments from you that have meant something in the long term. Like when you look back on it, maybe all the little stuff that you were super consumed about in the time ended up just passing by. Well, that's when the stuff that's actually important is how does that feel different to you in the moment? Are you all consumed by it? Are you anxious about it? Like the big decisions that you made? No, I mean, I'm weird with the big decision stuff. I almost like welcome the like, Hey, this is a huge moment and you're about to make some decision. And this is like a big deal. And I almost get energized by it. Absolutely. I'm the opposite of like, I almost look forward to these moments where I'm like, but I think back to what Titus was saying

is, you know, the biggest thing that I've always struggled with anybody wants to get into the business of the cool stuff is that I'm always afraid if I'm not wired this way, am I going to suck at my job? And then I'm not going to want to like, like, look, I drove back from Vegas last night, I woke up at 5am this morning, started writing out opens and fucking looking up usage stats of the highest 20 seasons. And it's 7am and I got a green juice going and I'm doing this shit because I just, I'm afraid if I ever have the mentality of not caring about things, then I'll suck at my job and it'll be over. So I guess I'm just tortured there Titus. No, but I think you like you, you might beat yourself up on it, but like you like that is why people want to listen

to you because I think you and this is now us just complimenting each other. But like people listen to you, Ryan, because they're like, you know that he does the homework and he actually like he thinks about I've always admired that you're always thinking about like the big picture on a take or like whatever a player, whatever it is, and not just saying like knee jerk, this guy sucks or this guy's awesome. Or this is yeah, if I say something, there's a bunch of reasons why whereas we say shit just to say it. You guys are way smarter at it actually. I say shit all the time. I think we just we do some I mean we do prep for the show we do. Occasionally, we will, but they're showing tonight. I think it's really show tonight and

how this is going. No, our prep, our prep for tonight, our prep for tonight was literally on the way over. We just remember that Hank has to give a best man. Yeah, we're like, and then we started to talk about we're like, no, don't say another word. But like sometimes we do get into the like role of the show and we'll just throw a bunch of shit at the wall. Right. And then eventually one of those will stick and somebody but you guys totally call this. It's like, we also said 20 things that were the most wrong thing. Yeah. Yeah. So many wrong things. I got it. I got to get better. That's also something I am picking stuff because you know game of the years. Right. I know that. But the other secret is like when you have an opinion on literally

every player, every quarterback, the top 100 NBA guys, like it's like we're going to be wrong all the time. You also have to kind of get past that. What I have, what I was going to say is I have to get passes like people hear what they want to hear. So trying to correct like what, like people will be like, oh, you don't like my team. It's like, dude, what are you talking about? Like Bengal's fans thought I didn't like the Bengals because I bet against them, like with, with the, I bet on them against the Raiders and against them with the Titans and Chiefs. And they're like, you don't really, it's like, dude, we talk about Joe Burrow. Like, like we love the guy. They also went 10 and seven. Right. Exactly. So, but, but that's like,

I love them. I have to like check myself being like, these people are just listening for what they want to listen to. They hear one thing and they're like, oh, you hate us. And it's like, I got to remember like people are just very biased when they listen to something and to not be upset when people are like, oh, you're so unfair to our team. And I am unfair to some team. And I did a loser before I was in the business. I thought Joe Buck sucked. I was like, this guy, every, every fucking time Yankees and then I got in the business. I was like, oh my God, Joe Buck's amazing. Yeah. Like I'm the best. So when the guys lose their shit, I'm like, yeah, well, whatever. I did the same thing in my early 20s. But we were right about

Romo. You're Romo stock. Banks have been worried about covering your short position on Romo. Hank PFT and I put ourselves on the line with our Romo. I don't think he's four years. I don't think he's as bad as you guys. He's not as bad as we say, but he's also gone closer to us than the other way. You also have to understand that a lot of our takes are not just based on the thing themselves, but it's based on like other people's reaction to that thing. Right. So we're just who you're talking about. Yeah. Right. They're the pendulum. Explain this process. Okay. All right. Build a straw man. And then you don't see that's bullshit. I hate when somebody's here because I'll just be like, I have to see it from real people before I go. Sometimes I think that I am

your straw man. Yeah. I'm like, I, yeah. Ryan, tell me, like when you want to go on a rant, tell me what the tweet and I'll tweet it and then you, I'll be the strong. We can be the straw man for you. So you can be like, I see these, these clowns out here saying this. No, but Ryan, I will disagree sometimes on sports and I just friends do, I just share it with the world. And then he goes on his show. I'm like Kingsbury. He's, we very much disagreed on Kingsbury and he'll do like an open. I'm like, that was just me because we were texting about that yesterday. I've gotten three, I think monologues out of big cat and I took some texting about Kingsbury this year. So that's good. And then I think one time I was arguing with Chris and Chris was like, you know,

you're not on with big cat right now. I was like, Oh, that's, that's fair. Yeah. I don't know. I have many people are saying, Oh, we argued about golf too. Yeah. Yeah. We argued about golf. Yeah. How did that go? Anyway, but lines, one more games than we thought. So, so to sum it up, you, you don't think you can chill out. You don't think you have that in you that like, cause Dan said that like the reason people listen to you is do your homework. That like, if I'm being completely honest, that might be true for some people. I feel like that's mostly bullshit. People listen to you because they love you and they just love. Oh yeah. No, that too. Like, but, but I'm like, if Fersillo didn't watch any basketball, which we know there are a lot of people in sports media

that do not watch sports. Mostly morning shows. Yeah. There's a reason why life advice and he just like fucking ripped on whatever he wanted. Yes. People would still listen. They'd still love it. So what, what is like, do you think Ryan, they'll ever be a point in your life where like that will click with you where you're like, I could just go to the beach and, and chill all day and then turn on the microphone and just talk about literally whatever the fuck I want. And I will have an audience. I will pay the bills. Why don't I just do that? Do you think you can ever like get to that point where he's right? Like you're the homework part I like because I just love sports, but he's right. The life advice is, is incredible. And that's Ryan

just talking. Why put yourself through that hell when you don't have to and you could just, you know, well, hell's excessive. But yeah, I've drive myself crazy about it. Yeah, sure. I mean, I'll have nights where I like go, don't sit here tonight. And then it's five and a half hours later and I've taken notes. And I'm like, you didn't need to watch any of these games. There was a Monday and there was a Monday night where nobody played the other week. Like 20 of the guys were missing all the best players. And I go, you didn't need to watch this tonight. You didn't need to do this. I don't know, man. I don't, you know, I obviously have some other interests. And I, like, you know, again, we're all being really nice to each other here. So I appreciate you

saying that. And I think the truth. It's true. Yeah. Well, Ben Poe and I were talking about it. You know, when we did the radio show together, we were both like, okay, we know more than everybody. I mean, that was the way we went into it. Like we're going to show everybody how much we know. And what I learned too late was that I was like, nobody really fucking cares if you know, hang out with you. Yeah, they don't care if you're a three or four star. Think about that. Like radio, they're making an investment, you know, depending on what the listening habits are, but that's 15 hours a week where you're out there and people want to, and once we went to year three, right was year three started, I remember, I was like, Hey, we need to fuck around more.

We need to talk about stuff. Like when you go to Chipotle and guys take pictures of you and you get weird and take a picture of them back and say, I have one of you now too, which I think is sort of aggressive, but I get what you're coming from. Because everybody treats van Pelt like a fucking pink zebra at the zoo or something. I was like, we need to do that stuff all the time. And we could see a massive pivot, both in audience growth and then just the way people would interact. And it didn't matter if we had the best sports opinions, and we were the guys watching every game, I can still never do it without watching the games. Because I remember when I was, before I was in this, and I watched everything, I could tell immediately the guys that didn't

watch games and I had no respect for them. I actually were mad that they had the job they had. It's like, no, if you have that job, you owe it to the people to be on top of everything that happens, especially in local market. Like when I would hear guys and be like, again, I was obsessed. I'd be like, it wasn't a two one slider, you dick. I'd be in the car. And I was serious, man. I'd be like, fuck this guy. And I was like, if I ever have that job. And again, I wanted to work in front of us. I didn't even want to be on the air. It just happened with a minor league thing where they were like, you know, do you want to sell tickets? And I was like, no, I don't want to sell tickets. I'm 26. I got a degree from a school and broke. Like I need

a job. And they were like, well, you can call the middle innings. And I was like, wait, what? I'm like, I've never done it though. Why would you do that? They're like, you're you have a deep voice. Nobody listens to the games. So, you know, looking back on on that, like those moments, I was like, okay, well, you know, I even if you're not going to be good at it, I think you have to. I personally like, I wouldn't want to even do a Monday morning podcast and say, I look, I could fake it. I could look at box scores. I think that's why people love numbers so much now, especially in basketball, because it's super fucking easy to sort all the numbers and be like, oh, look what this team's doing. But there's just nothing that compares

with learning about players and learning a team by watching them. And I'm sure Titus, like that's probably why you jumped in the beginning because you have this amazing perspective of somebody that, you know, again, it's different, but it's it's so you're just armed with more stuff than even we can have by just watching. Yeah. Yeah, I yes. That was long. No, but it was good. I don't know because I'm I'm one thing I learned through dealing with the pandemic is that our jobs aren't essential. And that like, we were all lucky as hell. Yeah, let's yeah. I mean, and so like I had to create dogs. I had to recalibrate guys got a job for life. It's crazy. I actually may have a follow up on that. Go ahead. No, I had to I just like had to recalibrate what my life is what I'm trying

to accomplish what I'm trying to do because like I always knew that this was like a lucky position to be in that I can just what I would watch the exact same amount of basketball probably if yeah paid for it. And I just get a talk and for some reason I don't know how it works. I get checks in the mail for it. I just show up I talk and then I get checks and I'm like this is fucking sick. But then when like that whole world ends and there's no like the college like and you guys are like broad sports, you guys are generalists of sports like at my appeal as a college basketball guy. So there's no NCAA tournament that the next season even you know this past season was even like a little weird. It really just like drives home how non essential my job is and that when

society collapses, no one's coming to me asking me if Duke still has a chance at a one seed. I want to push back what I yeah I'm gonna push back because I think that I think our jobs and obviously we're not you know fucking firefighters and you know hospital workers. But I actually think like during the pandemic was the first time I was like oh people are distractions. Our jobs are actually really important for people to just have something to think about that's different. And again, it's not a very important job. It's not like we're we're making decisions life and death decisions. But I've I've I feel like I've done a better job of appreciating like oh yeah people really like to listen and hang out with us and that is important. Yeah, you're right. Because

like people I love listening to you and in Tate like that's true. You're right. I shouldn't discount that. It's just that's my it's a lot of dude. There's never been there's never been more options. And if like Big Cat said if they don't they don't want to hang out with you. Why the fuck they want to listen to anything you want to say right. But I think you're selling yourself short like I know what you're saying big picture we're nothing but like day to day you think about it like there are people like when we meet people out and we go on these like trips and stuff it's like you you forget like people spend six hours with us a week more like a week you know what I mean like that's a lot you don't spend that much time with any of your

friends at this point you know so totally yeah we're still this is the first time anyway he's going to trap us here. It is funny because you do have you guys like the rule we always talk about is like every year you lose like one friend yeah when you get older not lose like obviously they'd still be but like you just don't you can't keep in touch with everyone and it's like something I mean text messages definitely help this because you like have your yeah chats yeah but it's hard I was born anybody who's like on a kind of a silo path just understand like when you have a moment you're like I'll share this with Marty you're like Marty's got three kids fucking screaming at him right now yeah like you didn't have time for this I do it to Big Cat but I like it I finally had to

stop though at some point because it was like you know and I'm not trying to sound like deep or whatever but like back to the no kids thing like you don't you're not making your own memories and everybody else is making their like so you you prioritize things in a weird way because normally if you're having a family you know I probably have a kid who's like 10 or something probably sick of hoops good hand or whatever but you would be making your own memories where you're not thinking about everybody else. I'm gonna push back on that. I wasn't trying to be sad. No I'm actually gonna say like I think that you should never think like oh they're making that like I like when my friends share things with me it doesn't mean I can respond all the time right away

I think that's the part that is like the instant like oh this is sick but no a couple years ago I had to yeah but a couple years ago I had to be like hey dude like shoot a text and say you're available later on right remember it's might be like you said it might be bath time right so have kids Titus. But as far as losing friends goes I think it's just it's a natural process it's erosion you know like the people you had more time when you were younger to spend with your friends now just as different circumstances happen to different people you lose it little by little and little and then you don't gain as many friends no especially as you get older because every person who kind of would maybe fall into that friend category is also just kind of adjacent to whatever

phase in life you have to be in at that point so like it's not it's not the true friendship that you get from somebody that you spend all your time with when you're younger where you just you bond over all these common things that you have you just don't have enough time as you get older to share that much of yourself with somebody and then reach that same level of friendship. I think there's also like a lack of vulnerabilities you get older too because you've done so many dumb weird shit without your college buddies or if you're still friends with your high school buddies you'll just be like well wait I'm 35 or I'm 40 and I'm gonna meet new guys like is he gonna think I'm weird or is he weirder than I am and then you're like wait a minute you're you're even weirder

yeah I don't want to do any of this stuff um but you know what it is I'm in that game now with kids by the way you don't a lot of people want to be a friend no like meeting the parents of other yeah that's how you make friends when you have it's a tough that are dogs right yeah yeah dog park politics yeah uh but if politics assemblies you're uh yeah you might go to like a rally yeah somewhere and then you end up getting addressed you all dress the same and then your bros for life after that no but there is actually some truth to that I think where when you're younger you develop the the long lasting like deep bonds because you get in trouble with people yeah and that's fun getting it's fun to do hood rat stuff with my friends right like it's actually fun to go through an experience like

that and then later on be like man we were so dumb back then I can't believe we got away with that the older you get the less trouble you start just yeah you're just not gonna have the same level of bonding opportunity it's all a lot more surface level yeah and then kind of depending on like what you're you're you're the way you're wired you're like whoa the squad's just got being so friendly so soon weird a loser I mean friends with this guy which is bullshit too you know so I don't know like we always joke about my friend thing I have friends all over the place like I actually have a lot of friends yeah so many that yeah right right but they don't I never live near them and then when you know when we get life advice this is a lot of guys like 27 28 they meet somebody and maybe she

wants to move back to her hometown or they both have a job opportunity but they're not a hundred percent sure and they're sort of on the fence and I think like I've had some pockets of friends that stayed in Chicago or stayed in Denver and I'm like envious of them because they actually prioritize that and they still will do cool shit like I think there's clearly a way to do it I think guys have a very hard time meeting new friends to get a little bit older but I'm more of the belief of like if you actually have like you know moving's great I've moved a million times I never let it impact any decision because I only was like very single-minded but when I see other guys I'm kind of like you're dead like I'm sure you want to move back to Chicago and you can like that's

you kind of not that like Friday it's on you know yeah no there's times wires oh the lodge right but it's yeah and I do think on that note too it's very important to make like be the guy in your friend group that makes the extra effort to get everyone together because it always everyone always has an excuse a million excuses and like it gets harder especially when you get out of that zone of bachelor parties and it's like oh we're not gonna see like you gotta be like the guy who's like hey let's all get together let's go do this like let's go let's go to a game let's go to whatever it may be you'll never regret it and it's like you don't you only like there are some friends of mine that I love to death and I know I might see them once a year at most you know what I mean

yeah and it's like you gotta you gotta like work on it that's I think the big thing it's like you have to friendship in the college and after you know when everyone's living having fun it's like it's very easy it gets harder and you have to put an effort I think that's the big lesson I also think too like I talked to myself because I know I don't guys that are like oh you know I graduated can't live with like seven guys okay maybe but if there's four of you that get along and you're not in a hurry you know I don't think 40s weird to have what is it about about guys that it makes it so much tougher for us because like a real guy talk there'll be there'll be girls or like a girlfriend or a wife that'll go to an exercise class and then they'll make like best friends with

a teacher and then they'll hang out with that teacher and go shopping the next week and be like I made a new friend like guys we don't we don't do that it's like if we happen to like make a comment about liking the same sports team or hating the same athlete if you're like fucking LeBron someone's like yeah man tell me about it then you're like okay I made a bro today but that's like the extent of your interaction and you don't ever like follow up and you don't really actually go the next step of like we don't you don't spend quality time with a guy you just met because you want to be his friend it's it's we it's true it's so funny but it's just yeah it's that we we we don't want to be vulnerable that's really all like they'll become friends with somebody is to be

vulnerable and like like you're saying or like like that's what started real young is like doing hoodrat shit as you said that's like honestly in some way you're you're you're being vulnerable with your friend by like I don't know breaking windows at the school at night and then now like you guys have the secret together that like if the cops come I didn't you know what I mean like and there should be a tender but for guys that want to just like go break minor laws like misdemeanor but this is also Gaia going back to awesome so I think I think women are naturally it's easier to just uh I don't know to just like open like they don't have the hard outer shell that like we have where like I don't know I I if I walked up to Ryan I was like dude your thigh is

a great man like we bond over that yeah you know we're we're I would never say that it also though is maybe I want to hear that yeah it comes full circle to like why it's stupid at times to like care about sports but that's also like a lot of my friends you know what I mean like your college friends like that's the only why do you care about college sports so much like I don't know dude like me and my best friends like to talk about the badgers playing Minnesota on a fucking maybe that's why maybe that's why guys always bond over sports because that's the one part of our lives we're willing to be vulnerable yeah be like I'm fucking devastated my team lost yeah and you're like I am too are we friend yeah you cry you cry after a bad loss together you're like this is

healthy yeah I hate when people are like dude it's just college team what does it matter yeah none of it matters yeah none of it we already know that but it matters today right and that's and you know it's way better than a fucking parenting text thread be like what's your diapers yes so you know I'm not on any of those this episode of life is being brought to you by wood wood men's grooming introducing wood it's new men's grooming line offering products across hair body beard and shave with wood products you look your best smell your best and you feel your best now all you have to do is live your best we use wood grooming when we're at the Super Bowl they kept our hotel room stocked with it I think we're the best smelling company in the world all week

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like that last time yeah yeah so start us off pft okay oh yeah we actually just talked about this briefly on the ride over here i've started in the last like three four years to uh to put my clothes away at hotel rooms when i know i'm going to be staying there for like four days it's good three or four days i don't live out of the suitcase i set up the kitchen sink or the bathroom sink with like all the shit that i need out there never done it never you never unpack oh it feels great i've lived in hotels too and then you call the hotel home like let's go back home it does it feels really good you wake up and in the morning you go to your drawer and you pull it out and you're like i know where everything is it's like a little mini home hang up your

shit although i got i've hung up stuff let's not go crazy but well you have to have you because then it's going to be wrinkled when you i used to have to wear suits all the time did you have to and i'm liquid i was putting away my shit at the hotel last night after i got in town i did again not a drug guy but i did smoke marijuana um with some other people here it's legal in california by the way and not federally correct correct i'm opening myself up to the da but i looked at my drawers this morning that i put all my shit in last night it made no sense the order that i just put i have my suit in there with my dirty underwear from the night before i've got like it's all it's packed away it's yeah because man you don't know we invite all these top shelf

parts now that's a good point good point but there's something about the suit yeah i'm gonna uh what yeah i packed wait what party are you actually bringing your i pack dress pants dress pants and a uh like a jacket a blazer what okay give me a roster give me a roster of yeah what party i don't know i don't have a party yet but every scenario is going through your mind when you pack what i need this just in case nobody wants to see you they think wow that's not a not a big time you guys but i've covered seven super bowls now and uh these super bowls i have been invited to one party or another where it's a higher dress up type party where i would feel like you know how i dress here's the thing about me 99 percent of the time i dress like the biggest

asshole in the world when he puts on a collared shirt i'm like who died but that's the point i don't think anybody wants you i have i have normal pf go and then i've got like you're going to a wedding or a funeral speed yes no seriously he puts on when he has a collared shirt i'm like did someone die that i didn't know about like did you come from a funeral because it's weird listen okay yes i just i was vulnerable with you guys don't ever do that again ever gonna do it but there's something i don't know it's something i picked up recently where i just feel better about myself if i just put stuff away yeah like i'm building my own little no i'm with you i i started doing that a couple years ago that it's a big move i like it as well it is a game changer yeah i like that

what else you got pft let me see anybody else want to go we can we can cycle around suits the suit style yeah one that came to mind for me is uh it kind of boils down to like set the bar low but not only set the bar low keep the bar low as long as you possibly can on a lot of different things and some examples of this obviously a work i i worked at the ringer for god knows how long i've worked at fox i think this is your going on year three for me i have i don't know how to check my work email is what like how it works like when people hit me up i'm just like i don't have i don't i still haven't learned that yes i have so there's that but then also another thing that i've i've done that has worked well for me is i've pretended that like experiences are my first time uh food

this is the first time i've tried this food i've gotten free meals out of this who i've never tried sushi you guys want to get sushi tonight and then like you're like oh my god you have to come on let's go that's smart and then i'm like what is that what you know i did that yeah it's like jimmy being at a jimmy buffer concert yeah that's smart and the new guy everyone wants to like eighth time everyone wants to fold a new guy into like their thing so if you're like what is i what is it i and they're like come with me i'll pay for everything i'll teach you everything that's genius and if you can keep that going as long as you can it's smart for you it's a winning combo but it's also it's sneaky smart and it helps out everybody else too because then the night is like oh we're

introducing mark to sushi everyone else's enjoyment gets raised up like how yeah how do you like this nagi yeah yeah like that yeah i don't like it there first yeah yeah exactly i like that move a lot yeah there's that line i just have something i want to improve on um you know i wasn't always a great tenant as a renner my early phases not a lot of heads up that whole like hey i'm moving out at the end of the month one time i moved out that day and the landlord was like what's going on and i was like oh i'm out i'm out of here i gotta leave he's like today he's like what about the 30 days thing i was like yeah i can't pay this month like i'm moving he's just like you're an asshole not proud of it so then once i had a you know a little investment property and was in charge i wanted to

be relaxed i want to be a little hands-off and uh you're the cool mom yeah i want to be like the other right right i'm like i'm not gonna hammer you in some of this stuff here or there so tenets moved out i was real relaxed real relaxed about a lot of it and um there was human piss all over a temporary mattress that cost me about 1500 bucks who they'd taken the mattress cover off so i was like all right this sucks yeah it sucks so i just wanted to see how they would respond so my life hack was i had two choices be professional or dump a piss stain mattress off the front of the guy's house and i'm so proud that i didn't choose number two so that's like me not finding the ref's name that's right yeah that was right so i was like you know i what am i supposed to do

with this mattress i guess i give it steam clean it's nice but i said you know i'm just gonna give the guy a chance we'll ask him and i was like hey any idea what's going on there why the mattress cover was off which was definitely on when they checked in because i turned i turned it over you know i was a very hands-on yeah and uh he was like oh check with the other guy i'm like you just went you just did a check with the other guy to me and so my life hack would be improving on those scenarios in the future take a better inventory the tenant empowerment arrow yeah you're not a fan of the tenant empowerment arrow i don't want to get political about this the um there's more renters than landlords so landlords lose public

so that's just the way it is i do think but apparently their mortgage goes away right it is a tough spot to be i i find myself trusting too much that was good i know i like that right that was like yeah people don't think about that you trust them they don't care i trust too much sometimes i think that falls into that we're like i try to look i try to think of the best in people and like i seriously was being so awesome about it and then i went oh i got fucking burned yeah right yeah like some guy will send me a pic and i'll be like this guy's a sharp and then he'll burn me it burns me a lot okay by the way there was a pic that was sent to big cat from me and i had good intel on it and it was based on a theory

and it didn't even come close right it was like a disaster out of the gates and then there was another game where i was like hey this is happening tonight and then because you your first impression is everything right even when it's the people you've made impressions with already but i sent this to me and chris long right i sent it to chris long and we'd bring it up he lost so spectacularly right it was and we were it was you know what it was do you remember the game i do because i do well of course i remember it because i felt bad about it was lakers rockets game one right when he was like the lakers are going to destroy the rockets the lakers did destroy the rockets in games two six or five five the rockets crushed the lakers in game one yeah the whole theory was they just

gone seven games you know they're going to be a little worn out like that turnaround was brutal because if you play the same theory to the i think the denver side of the bracket yes it actually played out perfectly based on what the theory was and so then the next one was whether or not a guy was going to play let's leave this out and i was like hey this is happening tonight and then he was ruled out and i was like that's not right it's not right and then you're like you guys were killing me because you're like you gave us the pick based on this guy being back and they just ruled him out again and i'm like nope it's wrong and i remember and i remember i even told big cat though this is where i deserve to be off the hook more or it should have reset the first impression meter

is i was like what'd you bet and you were like five grand and i go i will bet you five grand on what you i'll take your action then because i'm right and he did play and you won but we never fucking hear that story do christ and i would bring up the rockets lakers game just randomly like once every week just like it was endless you know you put yourself in the crosshairs of your buddies try to make them a little cash you just be like what are you like what are you guys doing this weekend be like well i'm not doing anything because i'm poor now because i bet what about the mississippi state law yeah you had that you saw that you saw that what about what about the golden state the other night where i was like golden states actually to come back and

win this game you did and i bet that and i went to sleep guy bets money line wakes up with a winner yep that's true i literally said to you i was like i'm gonna go to sleep i'm gonna bet it i'm gonna go to sleep because i trust you so i think i'm four and one yeah we keep hearing about the one was really really now it was terrible because it was the theory based on somebody else's theory who's like a genius oh no yeah damn um all right i got one uh i i'm a big believer in this one and with covid we didn't do it for a couple years people didn't get together be the cooler guy not the grill guy that's a big one yeah the grill guy at any outing or like barbecue or anything sucks and people think it's like awesome it sucks cooler guy gets to control the beer also

like gets if you can keep everything cold everyone's gonna be like oh my god you did a great job it's like it's sometimes hard how hard yeah how hard is it it's not just being like i'll go get the ice i'll go get this i'll do that i'll i'll i'll take care of like the drinks when you mean the cooler guy are you talking about like you're sitting on the cooler no i'm talking about is this an active role because i'm the guy who goes and gets like all right i'll bring the ice you don't do anything actually just bring stuff yes but that's real guy real guy sucks that sucks i i'm gonna push back on that i like being the grill guy i think it's it ruins the time you just basically have to just stand there at the grill you're definitely not there for the party you're there right you're

there and then you're like oh this is sick i'm the grill guy won't look at me but if you deliver as the grill guy you're the let you're the guy yeah but it doesn't really i i think single i don't know smelling like fucking burgers yeah right and you're just like i never got to put any time in no one's like man that was awesome well i i don't like to spend more time with like yeah when you're the grill guy it's not like you're in charge of the like dinner and show you're not like entertaining people while you grill it's just something cool to do like i i enjoy cooking meat and then putting out on a plate it gives me something to do for like i don't know 30 40 minutes i think yeah i always i hate like i think there's expectations are too high everything just feels like you're you're

out of microscope i think a lot of people think they can do it yeah that's you can tell a guy immediately like yeah you're gonna keep flipping it all day right you're doing something you don't really need to people judge you it's just nice to not have to worry about it and just be like i'm not grilling but i also think sometimes guy that maybe has some social hang ups is like oh i'll just be a girl guy because then it's like now i there's no pressure on me like oh i'd love to come over and chat yeah awkward but i'm grilling yeah it's more probably why i like yeah my job i don't have to talk to anybody i'm just gonna try to make sure this brisket is easy you can also like convince yourself that when you feed everybody you're like everyone here would have died if it

wasn't for me yeah i have nutrients to everybody that's that's you spending too much time with billy football but people would rather have cooler guys show up the cooler guy showing up is great yeah and just being like i got the drinks i'm bringing the ice i'm doing like dude who doesn't want like i just i'm cooler guy i'm cooler guy to the beach that's become my thing yeah i am uh i've become cooler guy and it's uh it's a great job because i it's not an active job right if you do it and then it's so you bring it and then you sit yeah and you but also people are always like dude if you if you're like oh you want you need a beer oh you need an extra beer oh yeah okay yeah it's a fucking you get a lot of rewards for that yeah i'll admit that uh in uber's sometimes

in person i'll pretend i can't speak english when you get in the car how do you say it how do you let them know i'll just be like i'll push your pal that's good that's good i have enough french i can say a few sentences in the accents i've always been strong with my accents they've always said that but i'll just i'll just be like you know you're available and they're just like that's just i want to go to the beach which technically i do but um they just freaks everybody out life act don't speak english so i've had solicitors i just go ahead show up because i used to get a little more aggressive with solicitors i used to look forward to the confrontation where i get out of jim like hey man i want to talk to you i love those sneakers you just get

fuck off i'm not signing up for your thing and just to see because it's like you've been harassing people all day yeah and like one guy and they get so mad at you because like one guy's like no fuck this yeah i'm not doing it i don't want there to be any confusion and then it'll be like whoa whoa so i was like all right stop doing that so now we gotta come up and i'll just be like you know like news alongs on the plush hey you are french yeah right that's we want to go to the beach the nice thing in new york's you literally just don't have to look at anyone no but i've gotten in a couple like back in the day when soho there would just be dudes that would like harass you with the seedy thing you just never never say anything they're still there you never say

anything it's not as bad as it used to it used to be so bad because everybody was just afraid to not give the person five or ten bucks because he'd be like wait now you wanted money for the yeah right now you're holding it and i feel like you're stealing yeah yeah right that's a transaction and i would just be like nope i don't want your fucking seedy and the guy would be like you know then people kind of look around you're like all right you can relax a little on this one there's an easier way to do this but i just like to turn me no like i'm gonna be very certain you like a little bit of confrontation i do oh you live off of it yeah how long do you have to go for like for that it's just start creeping up where you're like i really want to get into a shouting argument

it is i don't i'm not talking about like just straight up arguments with god i'm not like i'm not you start me as a guy who making a citizen's arrest is on your bucket oh yeah like you would love to like you'd be like hey hey you can't do that and then you're you walk up yeah like when you see like cops it's like with the yellow tape you walk up you're like you need any help here yeah i just went from cool to dwight shrewd no no that's not the case and honestly if i had beaten up the stalker probably that would have been my that was my shot do you think you could have taken him yeah i'm just kidding no not that i'm so but i could no i no you're wrong on that i just i don't

i like confrontation but not to the point of like i don't want to start arguing with strangers all the time you would have to start i like i i'm on your side right i would have to do something that i don't want you to do to me yes and i'm just gonna make sure you know immediately like no this isn't not like i i got into one uh the other day in my neighborhood there's like a shitload of construction i was driving my car and i like there was like a shitload of like trucks and everything so there's one way to go through and me and this guy hit the hole at the exact same time and i'm not joking i sat for five minutes and he sat for five minutes and we just were honking at each other like motherfucking each other and it was thrilling finally some truck moved so we both

could be like all right we got a win did you guys respect each other you think when it was done it was like a little i think so like but i i put down my window he put down he's like fuck you i was here first no fuck you and i know i shouldn't do this because like people are crazy with road rage like could have had a gun but it was it gave me adrenaline for the rest of the day my god it was awesome we were just standing there like sitting there literally just looking at each other like fuck you no fuck you like you moved no i was here first you think it would have taken him yeah i probably could have i did that clip of those two guys no one can answer that it was awesome just dude it was but those are thrilling those guys probably went on and had the best day of their

life yes because you like walk away and you're like wow that was kind of a rush those guys knew each other don't they yeah it was a fake so right yeah i kind of put a damper on a butt like everything if you were in that scenario it would have felt good for the rest of your day yeah like to get it to an actual argument with somebody face to face on the street because i feel like we're too nice sometimes we hold back yeah i think if we were allowed like and again it has to be i would say in retaliation to something that's happening like i have this it's a horrible deal and if i you ever read the things like we're still a shot in the street i'm gonna tell you exactly where it happens because outside of the equinox whoa that was left turn there's outside the equinox there's two lanes

and you can go left or right for the most part right and there's an exit of a strip mall right because it happened again today and there is like three cars and get to the light and then behind that with these massive lanes out here you have to leave the area clear so people can get it out and then you stop at almost like a second area behind it it's fairly common out here what always happens is there's some guy leaving the strip mall that sees that gap and goes well i'll just pull out right get behind the car and not only do you cut everybody that's like obeying what you're supposed to do you then also cut off the other lane to turn right and everybody does it and it's like half the time and i'm usually i always make sure i leave the gap and then now when i see somebody

try to sneak in i just go well fuck it then i'll just pull up and then they get caught and they think i've cut them off and i'll just be like what do you how'd you think this is gonna work what did you think what do you think was going on like you were gonna be the one that did it you were going to be the one and now you think i'm wrong because i did the right thing or the wrong and then it's just like i'm going to get shot and the worst is i'm right after i get out of the gym so i'm so fucking amped up yeah yeah so it's horrible what's that what pre-workout oh just anger jack was the absolute best i don't know what happened to the original formula jack but i'm pretty sure that it was meth i think that there was a chemical in it

it was like the dimethylene 1 3 germanium extract look it was methamphetamines that was nuts and the one that was really fucked up you're gonna you all be too young for did i just y'all i don't know i don't know if i like that i did that is ultimate orange look that up okay that was like i was taking that i think my early 20s and i came home because i was like off for a semester i was gonna work construction didn't work out and uh i would come home and you know i didn't have any money so i'd go to my parents house to get some food or something and i'd leave the gym and that my father'd be like what the fuck is wrong with you so i don't know i don't know there's an ultimate orange they banned that they banned that 20 years ago that's how bad that was this ain't

your daddy's pre-workout are you looking it up right now increased muscle mass strength energy and focus that's what they all say that what's in it though i don't even know if i want to know why was ultimate orange pre-workout banned it caused strokes seizures cardiac and heart attacks and active and oh it had a fedra in it that's why fedra was the one that it was in a lot of pre-workout that was in jack too uh no jack had actually i'm pretty sure it was synthetic meth that was in it and so they re-released it with a different formula and all the forms exploded they're like whatever happened all the jet then people went out there and they bought they bought the old ones yeah guys had like garages just filled with tubs and the price of each container

skyrocketed like 150 bucks as opposed to 29.99 it was a problem for us it was it was not an easy come down um i have i have one that i wrote here that's it's kind of serious but kind of a joke but we all find ourselves in situations where we're eating somebody's food or if you're at a brewery and somebody put a lot of time and work into creating something you take a sip or a bite of it and you just hate it immediately and you don't know what to say ever just say there's a lot going on in here there's a lot of flavors wow there's there's a lot going on that's really good very simple what's the guy fieri he does what does he say when he's like the nicest the meanest thing he says um because he's so nice right he doesn't write he says something that's like that's a tell

hmm oh fuck did he share it with you guys i'd love to know this information i can't remember it might have been just a wow you're like the he just gives you a basic wow one wow with guy fear you're in trouble but a lot going on is good usually if he goes wow that's out of bounds then that's good well i gotta find it i gotta find it but keep going sorry this is amazing yeah and then the other the kind of serious one is um i wish i had written more notes to people like small notes yeah this is going back to hotels and again i'm like i'm thinking about hotels because i'm currently in one so it's top of my mind but if you write like a small note to the housekeeping staff when they come by they're like people whose jobs you know are so monotonous and

boring if you just write like a small note to them being like hey i appreciate it thank you for cleaning the room it can make their day like i got into a note off one time with the housekeeping staff at um it was in indianapolis at the combine i wrote like a little note thanking them the first night then my room was clean they wrote me a note back saying thank you so much for leaving me this note right in my day then i i feel pressure where i have to write like an even better note now i have to like sit down and think about what i'm gonna write on my second note back to sounds like an assignment this is yeah i got myself to like a little bit of i'm with you but i'm with the notes yeah because think about the last time you got like a handwritten written note from somebody

it's it it makes you feel better it makes like it's a small bit of connection that you can do with somebody yes i think that both parties benefit from vampel used to do a handwritten note for every guest we had really then i think would you would you ever ask you to sign it no they didn't want my name on anything wait what i i was on that i was on your radio show i never got a handwritten note that must have been interesting that might have been an impermissible benefit well what year what year were you on with us uh would have been oh nine i got my first taste of controversy with you guys because you i believe you asked me which cheerleaders in the big 10 were the least attractive and i'd that sounds that doesn't sound like us oh nine oh nine humor

yeah i said northwestern and then um it wasn't rude were they offended because it's per due i gotta be careful i've been worked into i've been worked into a pretzel because my mother went to purdue and played basketball and was in the hall of fame at purdue and anyone that grows up in india and knows that like no women go to purdue and that like you just want to make jokes about there are no women at purdue and yet my own mother yeah so i'm like put in like like i want to do it so bad but then i i don't know so anyway work that hall of fame speaking of purdue i got a life hack dan you'll like this uh because my mom goes to purdue i uh one thing i do for every year is i give 35 so that's her jersey number to the purdue university in her

name and what it has allowed me to do the life hack is that i grew up in india in a fan i don't really care for purdue that much uh i can now shit on purdue with free reign because i'm technically donating to the school yes a booster so that's a life hack maybe like throw 10 20 bucks to your rival i and then you're allowed to say whatever you want yeah and and i don't know donate yeah that actually is a good one building small excuses for yourself is always important yeah i like that yeah yeah is that what that's where you landed on that's what it was yeah yeah don't give money don't like give time just like only do something nice for somebody else if it's going to benefit you in the long run yeah um i had a one for bachelor parties be do uh get up early

one morning and clean the whole place you're the king for the whole weekend there's that one guy like if you get a house if you'd make the effort because there's it's always that like who's cleaning and everyone knows the asshole who doesn't do anything if you're just like one morning you're like all right i'm getting up and like everyone's gonna get up and they're gonna see the whole place is clean you now have like basically checked off your i i've done something to help the crew here to expand on that i think just the the every so often grand gesture in general is a great play right the like selectively picking up the tab you're someone that doesn't have a lot of money and and you know that you can't you can't not pick up the tab every single time

one time when you're at like it may be a mid-tier restaurant you're not at the really fancy place with all the friends you're like you know what guys i got this one and then they'll remember it forever yes i that was a trick i pulled with my my rich friends once they got to the nba and they'd come back i would try like one once every like two years i would pick up the tab and they would all look at me like what the fuck like you know and then i feel like in my mind i've positioned myself unlike all those other mooches over here like i'm i'm trying i'm doing my best and i don't know it also is like if you are in a spot where you've made you know some money and you have people you're working with you haven't like doing the little things of like picking up lunch doing

shit like that like it actually it's it matters you know what i mean and like people i i also am a big believer in like if you do if you're in a spot where you're whatever job you're in and you have people that do a really like good job helping you be better you have to make sure that you take care of them like i heard a story once that like sabin just like he has everyone over to his house like everyone literally like ball boys like everyone who has anything to do with the program and like everyone gets like a huge christmas bonus and it's like from it like every person down the line and it's like that type of thing like if you have a if you're in a spot where you have the ability to do that it means a lot to people and you don't want to be the guy who

doesn't do that who was it that we're talking to that had like matt laflore over and he thought he was going to a party but brian kelly yeah yeah but that's that's ryan's guy yeah yeah your guy brian kelly and he was he was a salla right it's just that matter he was the cooler guy that story so bad i almost can't believe it's true like apparently kelly invited salla and and the floor over and they thought they were going to a christmas party and instead they stayed outside in park cars park cars for me but like little shit like that it's like i don't even know i don't know that's so bad they're true but there is like you know i think you have to take care of people that are no but there's a there's a bigger thing that what you're saying and you're right you're totally

right and you know you got you may not learn it to a little bit later you know you also have to be the person that's in position like look early on van pelt paid for every dinner right okay he just knew he was going to pay for everybody's and take care of everybody and i get to a certain point where it's like hey let me grab a check here like i know it's your move yep but let me grab one just like ties to talk about like it's almost like if you know i remember like dating somebody when i was younger and she didn't have any money i didn't have any money and i paid and then like once a month she'd be like i got it and it meant the world to me it's a good point the reverse and i've had other people i've hung out with where they had money and they they wouldn't fucking cross the

street for ten bucks then they'd ask me for it instead you know and you're just like look it's just a little but i think what you're saying is like i'll get all these life advice emails about well we had the bill was this and then after this vacation it ended up being all these different things and it can sound like well hey you guys are now older and you've made some money you're more dismissive and i'm like look we just spent all this time talking about how hard it was to make friends and to meet friends when you're older and stuff and some of you fucking guys want to argue over seventy five dollars from a fucking bachelor party weekend where you're ready to and i get like hey there is a guy in the group that always thinks he's winning by not kicking in money right and it

fucking sucks and the only thing you can do is just keep hammering him on it when he keeps doing it all the time and that's his role in the friend group but don't be so like ready to go on some of the money stuff where it's like you realize like some of the stuff you guys are gonna lose lifelong friends over fifty or seventy five you know look if somebody keeps doing it like i said i can understand it being an issue but i can't believe how many emails we get and you're just like all right you want to start cutting guys off because a happy hour after fucking at twenty six years old go ahead but you're gonna regret it yeah and sometimes it's easier to just like there have been situations where it's like oh there's a security deposit or something like all right

let me cover it and like we'll all be happy you know what i mean like not making everything there's something about like when you get a little older where it's like hey y'all go out to like breakfast or brunch or something it's like no you don't like it's it's split it all up you know like there's just something about it's finding that line all the time and that's kind of what it is where you could be like all right you shouldn't one guy shouldn't get stuck with everything all the time but i also don't want to be here with the fucking calculator down to the decimal point after a golf trip because it makes you it makes it it lessens everyone's like enjoyment but yeah i do think taking care of people who make you whatever job it is who make you your job easier and your

life easier is super important and it doesn't always it doesn't have to be cash it can just be like hey you what you do for me is like very important and very vital to my success here's a hoodie i don't want yeah here the pile take anything from the pile i should also include that i with the notes you also should leave some money i was wondering because i was like yeah no this is better than any money i can give you it's a it's a personal thank you yeah but do the the bachelor party won like and also i i later like don't do it when you're in 20s but when you're 30s don't be ashamed of just leaving the bachelor party early like i do the like late like if i go to vegas i think that's lame why because everyone's dead we've spent all the time it depends on the time how much time you're

there right but you don't get those like we've had trips like that i've gone through them i remember one weekend years ago where by the time saturday rolled around i was like because we've done thursday and friday like idiot that's so young and i just went i don't want to go out tonight i'm like i'm over i'm done and then you know my other buddy was like we all flew from all over the country to be here what are you gonna do get a movie like you're gonna sit here and watch a movie and to get takeout like you have to go it's not so i don't i don't like to bail out at night it's the it's the early morning i'll always just leave i'll be the first leave in the morning that's i don't like to get it sit around and like yeah that like the sunday on the get out day

i'm out getting out anyway i'm out you with first one right not the not to leave the party early yeah you're right about that like how much community cleanup is going to be involved on the last day yeah but that's also like part of the like if you get up or if you get up early clean the whole place up and then leave yeah i think that's also for bachelor parties like you like however much cocaine you're gonna get it's not gonna be enough i wouldn't i don't use drugs don't do drugs don't do drugs for jack three i also had one that you that was that was a pre-workout you would take and then just you go to the gym and then just sit on the toilet for 30 minutes and be like well i can't work out i've been in the bathroom as long as i gotta get to work at home get showered

that was a bad decision uh really gets the insides moving be the guy though on the bachelor party that does something for everyone like that like clean up go get breakfast do something it's that's golf towels it's a big move no no embroidered golf towels i'm talking about like like oh i'm gonna go my drinking group has a friendship problem yeah hats i have one for uh you ryan and titus for pickup hoops uh if i look tight it's going this one i'm embarrassed to be in such company no i because this is more well it's actually more for me but you guys might hate this move but when you get tired in pickup hoops just saying the wrong score so that you get an extra like time out so everyone has to stop and leave to count everyone's like who's got who's got like

all right i got two you got four just like just just kind of like making a little foggy so you get that extra breath that's really good that's a that's a big one yeah that's and you have to you can't do it if you haven't scored though because like it's very important to be like well i have two because there's nothing worse than being like what does everyone have and you're like i got zero yeah so i guess i have nine it's nine four yeah uh that's a good one yeah um i i one that came to mind was um i've picked up all my neighbors from this is that you can let your dog do whatever the fuck it wants as long as you say oh my god he never does this yep that's a good life hack so just like let your dog just run fucking wild and you know get up all in strangers business and then

run over and just say he's never done this oh my oh he never did it does this i have a buddy that did this who and it was amazing because it was the funniest thing ever to watch if there was some sort of confrontation from like an older person yelling at you like hey you shouldn't park there or whatever you just go what and the guy be like you shouldn't park there what like no you can't you can't park what yeah and then by the fifth or sixth what he would realize oh you know real weisenheimer here but then buddy like don't call Steve Austin but you just yeah exactly what you just did right there was uh actually the reaction that i think that they would get once you realize what he's doing you're like uh okay and it's almost like your exasperated like we got an asshole

what okay buddy and then you turn around walk away confrontations over yeah it's actually brilliant yeah and meanwhile we'd all be sitting around laughing hysterically because we're like how many what's is he gonna get to that same point if you ever get don't get into a fight bar fights are very dangerous i've learned that bar fights they look cool on tv bar fights are scary but if you do find yourself in a fight you know what a good move is like right before the fight somebody's always you know you're you're woofin at each other a little bit the guy says something to you ask him be like would you just say and then as he starts to repeat himself that's when you punch him because he's focused on remembering what he just said and repeated he never expects the punch

in that situation here's another one for bar fights i haven't been in a bar fight very very long time but can we hear about that story which one whoa most roadhouse bar fight yeah we had no i was gonna say if you ever get in a bar fight or a situation just don't punch anyone just choke him just go straight to the choke or just you know what it's a move that no one expects if you just grab someone by the neck life hack choke him no it's seriously you're keeping your bad pretty tight because everyone's like holy shit is there choking going on and then it stops if you double like somebody and you just take him down and you hold him on the ground yeah you tap eventually while the whole fight is happening around you uh-huh you and this guy will just be holding it so long that you'll

both get tired yep and then you'll just kind of like have the gentleman's agreement of okay the real fights over there we're done with our little piece right here also yeah i feel like pmt's been a secret badass pod nobody knew you started this when you you broke it down that you could fucking fight us yeah but that was uh ingest and then what happened i feel like do we have seruti matched up with hank because i didn't like i didn't like bodied i didn't like seruti's chances in that one hank and then billy was involved i don't forget i forget you don't like the choke move it's serious i mean you know it's gonna get a reaction it really does end things pretty quickly because no one really wants to like have a choke i had a bottle cracked over my head once it sucked

i was back up visiting i literally had just walked in from a long road trip so i hadn't even been drinking and i get in and um i remember because i had a you know one of those sick north faces on that we had had like three different colors of and i somehow something happened but it was my friend's bar so i was trying to help and then i got like grabbed from behind and the guy was like it's i'm a cop i'm a cop i'm off duty i'm off duty and i'm just getting pummeled in the fucking head being like i was afraid to do anything because i thought a cop had me and then i got hit over the head with a beer bottle which actually if it hits in the right spot it's not that big of a deal and then i turned around and it was just a decent size patron and i'm like what the

fuck did you do when i'm cleaning up the blood on the side of my head i'm like why would you do that and the thing is is i wasn't even in pain as much as i was so annoyed that i was like i have been back in town 20 minutes right like this sucks just showed up and i go you know i was trying to help out and i'm you know this and he's like well he goes i thought you were going to turn around and start hauling on me so i just grabbed you and then i said i was a cop and he goes like it worked and i'm like yeah great and now i have a fucking glass in my head and um i would not try any of those moves yeah unless you want to do the cut the fake cop again we cannot endorse pretending to say you're on the job person in the officer but it worked out for him

not someone right throwing valor is never okay right ever all right what else we got we wrap up soon right did you listen to uh to today's podcast part of my take i know you're a big fan well i listened to the whole road trip part of it where billy was talking about uh how well the speed carries i'm a big billy fan yeah um i was curious if you listen to the one today because you and i share a bond i school brothers i too um i i walked into the wrong hotel room in memphis it was double booked and there were rose petals everywhere and it's tricky because my key worked and i was like all right he did work no my key did work it did yeah my key worked i got in and you didn't end up national news or on facebook for 28 hours did you not uh the only other one i had was this

is gambling could pivot if if a bet's going bad i like to pretend that i bet on the other team so like the winning bet and see if i can like reverse it that way so i'll do that you do that all the time yeah i do that all the time and also the mental math of gambling is very important your xbox playstation five giveaway tweet when a bet is going bad did you not be honest had you seen that anywhere else you know straight up invented that on your own so i so a couple guys in our or jersey jerry and a couple other people they've received got hacked and john rosting i got hacked when i got boxed out really i went on a rant and then it was fixed they got they got hacked like three weeks prior by the way it was really weird i didn't even notice after a couple days i was like

oh that's right i don't have it that is crazy yeah i i saw they actually got hacked and when they did i was like ah i'm gonna use this and i was like this is just gonna be that was in my back pocket whenever something goes bad and people like our social team texts me every time they're like dude you got hacked got leap oh my god got late right yeah he got leap text me he's like bro you got hacked i was like no i was like no dug wisconsin is losing to illinois right now very badly and he's like no bro you got hacked i'm like no dug and he's like the ps5 i was like yes i tweeted that he's like i don't know man i was like i tweeted that dug like who is this prove that prove that you're dang cat yeah no it's picture of today's newspaper yeah it's it's a foolproof because

everyone's just like and then you just he's just you gotta like i just go to sleep after just stop the don't treat for the rest of the night oh it's great i love it i've got a i've got one more i've mentioned this one before but i feel like it needs to be said here because it's really gotten me out of some tough situations back when i had like a corporate job when i was in the real world and uh if you're ever in a business meeting or talking to your boss and there's something that you did incorrectly or something that you failed to do instead of saying like i thought we were supposed to do this this and this say my understanding was that i was supposed to do this this and this it's a great way of saying the exact same thing but also making it like halfway seem like you have

your shit together because you had an understanding they hear people say like i thought when you hear i thought what pops to their head is here comes an excuse when you say my understanding was they're like somebody else screwed up this guy this guy used a big word he's got a shit together i like that i like that i got not what anything else you guys got is that it i the only other one i have is when you're golfing just everyone knows i do this this is my move but just to yell you're gonna love that off the tee for anything and then it works even if they have a bad shot it's funny yeah like oh you're gonna love that when they're clearly in the woods it always kills i would uh i would encourage people to call for more meetings now that i've been out in la for a couple years

people love fucking meeting they love telling me who you could meet with just sitting and meeting i would say you should take that back to like the midwest midwest sensibilities maybe maybe northeast specific northwest american southwest yeah turquoise uh shadow turquoise just if you're at the office or you're 23 start asking people to meet yeah no you do feel important when you got a meeting it's like oh i got a meeting yeah yeah i'll still never forget this one intern like emailed greeny this guy was out of control he's the most aggressive intern i've ever seen in my entire life he would just start emailing guys on the corporate email to be like would like to set aside some time with you for like 30 minutes or whatever and greeny was like do i know uh and he would like

leave the voice out he's like why do i have a lunch at 10 45 with did i did did i agree to this what and he was so confused and it happened to van pelt van pelt one time was like who the fuck is this guy in this intern was just running around espn just booking meat and he would actually like he would phrase it in a way that was vague right so it wasn't like do you want to meet because that's no it would be like was hoping to follow through on the time i'd set aside you're like what the fuck is going on so again that guy went a little too hard with it and then once everybody kind of figured him out i think he had a talking to because it was like hey i don't think chris fowler is gonna meet with you anytime soon i don't chris fowler wouldn't meet with me uh but don't be afraid to

maybe you know hey like to follow up on something you said here yep and take that la sensibility and apply that to other places i like that off of that too you my favorite thing to do and i think most people know this but like maybe like first week of december is the perfect time to be like let's touch base after new years and just fucking push everything like you can start that like the day after Thanksgiving like like you know what let's let's save this for after new years hollywood doesn't do vacations they shut down like seasonally yeah i'll be like hey can you get this in and i'm why do i have to eat like wow you know people are gonna pick it back around february 12th you're like what the meeting thing is good though it really does make you feel important you're like

let's have a meeting yeah let's talk about this like to meet do you ever say have you reached a point in life where you refer to hang out with somebody as like visiting like i visit you know i visited with this person yeah i heard so i heard an older person say that and it made it sound like it was such like a quaint experience i thought like maybe i'll start saying like yeah we had a nice visit i'd hold off on that for a bit okay that's something what are you talking something i'll aspire to say one day no visit there you go make yourself vulnerable again yeah i don't even know how to use it in the senate yeah it sounded like that's just like that's when someone's on the hospice yeah i know it said that it sounded like yeah i was like i was like i was like i really enjoyed

visiting with so-and-so it was like that sounds like way more than just a conversation no you visit someone to check to make sure they're alive yeah one day one day i'll do that yeah they sent us here to be like is we're so is he ever gonna come out of his house like we'll go we'll do a live i leave i leave once usually once a day wow good for you leave your house once a day that's life advice get that vitamin d the sun here is just incredible i got sunburned today because i'm just i'm look great i'm refusing to put on a shirt unless i really have to that's a good look do we have any superbowl thoughts i mean like our well it's going after but really look stupid do you want to do it real quick real quick last two minutes let's look stupid i don't know it's just it's hard living in la and

having just an entire city rallying behind a team like they're at the right like have you seen people in the streets like high five i don't leave this area since i haven't seen i haven't seen this city buzzing for the ram since like chip kelly was hired like the city is not buzzed for anything really it's more than micronon it's like micronon chip kelly um no i this is the greatest collection of winners la's ever had whose city is this um no if it's going to who gives a shit then is it a bad sports town no not at all it's anybody that thinks that la do the lakers thing is as intense as any single fan base anywhere it's a bad sports town and i'll tell you why uh if you go to a bar there's not a game like it pick a bar it's not a guarantee they're showing a game yeah that's

that would drive me nuts how is that not that's like on a saturday you can't it's open and closed right there that like a saturday you have to walk in and be like you got college football and they're like what is it right all right that's fine but i'm just saying there's there's this belief that like no one cares about stuff out here no they'll fight like dodgers fans will fight you obviously right the lakers thing is crazy and half the lakers thing is like only kobi right like i could argue that kobi kobi's relevance to this city the connection i don't i'm i'm trying to think like i guess you could say jeter but that doesn't feel as as tight as the kobi thing like it feels like 1950 no i agree with you mickey mannell's

shit we're like literally every kid that grew up in any borough you know grander brooklyn probably had some problems with it because he you know losing the dodgers but now we're doing a little history lesson and then the then marvin miller so you guys didn't get so uh i i don't know like i would put kobi on whatever it there's not five people in modern sports that are more connected the way a city loves them than kobi in la and i'd agree with that um all right well ryan thank you for hosting us sorry it took sorry we went long that was fun it was about 45 yeah half hour this is actually just the intro you want to do the ad and then we'll get to the show it's your seven parts i love doing this i love talking to you guys i have fun i have fun doing

it um i we should do it more often yes and yeah maybe maybe do it on someone else's home turf at some point let's fucking do it i don't know anytime you guys want us what are we complaining but you guys had to come here no i'm i'm saying we do it on someone else's podcast but we don't we don't want to slowly yeah well i'm in ryan i don't know ryan i have one last question do you are we friends or all of us do you consider us your friend question yeah probably just dan though that's fair but what about that what about that rockets lakers game that was bad i mean that was a really bad they lost like 20 great calls it was so bad they lost and that what i just did right there was the call back yeah i call call back and call back

was like this is going to be the easiest money you ever made easiest manner you ever not many people gave out mississippi state in them though that's true fax love you guys talking away i don't know what i'm to say i'll say it anyway today is another day to find you shy and away i'll be coming for your lover can take on me you take me i'll be gone in a day or two

so needless to say i'm on sentence but that's me i'm stumbling away slowly learning that life is okay and say after me it's no better to be safe than sorry and i'll take me i'll be gone in a day or two and all things that you say is it liable just to play my worries away here are the things i've got to remember

you're shy and away i'll be coming for you anyway take on me take me i'll be gone in a day or two i'll be gone in a day or two in a day or two thank you so much thank you guys