Pardon My Take - Lions Taylor Decker, 1 Question With Will Levis, Remembering Mike Leach + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

We start with MNF recap and NFL clean up from Sunday (00:02:14-00:21:01). Remembering the legendary Mike Leach after his passing (00:21:01-00:30:06). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a Max follow up on knowing ball and a truly wild story from Jake (00:30:06-00:51:22). Lions Tackle Taylor Decker joins the show to talk about the recent turn around for Detroit, playing for Urban Meyer in college and tons more (00:51:22-01:33:37). Kentucky QB Will Levis joins us for 1 questions with a QB in studio (01:33:37-01:46:49). We finish with guys on chicks (01:46:49-02:05:56).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have Lions, Left Tackle, Taylor Decker, AWL, great interview with him. We also have one question with a quarterback live in-person edition with Will Levis, who is going in next year's draft. The size are his hands.

We find out. Oh, they are. All right. Results will shock you. Yep. Buzzfeed. The results will shock you. We're going to talk a little Monday night football, hot seat, cool throne.

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Go check it out right now. Use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Today is Wednesday, December 14th, and are the Patriots back? Patriots' defense is back. Big time. Or do the Cardinals stink? Patriots' defense is good.

Their offense is... You know what? I can officially say the Patriots are the best bad team in the NFL. They made that pretty clear over the last few weeks. They're a very good bad team. Their offense still sucks ass. Actually, this Sunday will be a very good test. The Raiders might be number two in the best bad teams.

It's true. It's a good power rankings. Josh McDaniels' revenge game. Yeah. Power rankings are the best. Who is the best bad team? Yeah. Find out on Sunday.

I think that's fair. That's a good matchup for those two. They are like... I do think that... I mean, they're now in the playoffs. If the season ended today, the Patriots would be in the playoffs. Their defense is very good. Matt Jones, again, I think that Matt Jones has a full-on case for QB malpractice to have

Joe Judgen and Matt Patricia, those two dumb fucks being his OC. I would be pissed if I were him. If I were his agent, I'd be like, you guys fucked him up because they don't know what they're doing. The Patriots are the best bad team. Matt Patricia is the dumbest rocket scientist in the world. He is so stupid when it comes to offense. Full meme, Matt Patricia rocket science, and it's just that gif of the kid hitting the

rocket and going into his dad's dick. Or hitting himself in the face. That's Joe Judgen, Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia is a real-life Wiley Coyote on an Acme rocket firing himself into the side of a mountain that's been painted to look like a train tunnel. He's bad. The offense is really bad. It's hard to watch.

I agree. It's tough to say that Matt Jones is not a good quarterback because we don't know because of all the chaos that he's gotten into. It's like the reverse of last year. It was like, look at the situation that Matt Jones was able to walk into, a structured organization, the best coach of all time, Josh McDonald's is OC. Everything that we said last year about Matt Jones was basically reversed, and he got put in the worst situation possible.

Yeah. I mean, I think even Hank, if he was here, which he's not because he's sick, or on vacation one of the two. Yep. I have actually a wrinkle that a friend of mine threw out there that Hank is going to join us for Zoom at the end. I think we should offer Hank extra ping pong balls, but every role he gets, we take away a vacation day.

That's not a bad idea. Rockin' a hard place for him. That's not a bad idea. But yeah, even Patriots fans like Hank, I think we'll admit that this team is just no fun. It's not fun. And no fun at all. And if they make it to the playoffs, they're probably going to lose their first round game again.

And that's not fun either. If you're a Patriots fan, like for me, getting to the playoffs and losing the first round, that's like my Super Bowl as a Commander's fan. If you're a Patriots fan, that's a washed season. Yeah. I mean, if they make the playoffs, it would most likely be the seven seeds. So then they'd be playing the Bills or the Chiefs. Uh-oh.

I kind of hope they play the Bills again in Buffalo, and it's just as bad as it was last year. And they have a tough schedule coming up. They have the Raiders, the Bengals, the Dolphins, and at the Bills. So it's not going to be easy. But they're in the playoffs right now, so they get respect for that. Like they've, I would say that they're in that category of teams that like their roster isn't that great.

And like the fact they're even in the playoff picture, it might, you know, like, hey, there's teams with better rosters. Like the Saints were supposed to be a good team this year. They've fallen off. The Raiders are supposed to be a dark horse. They've fallen off. So you can at least look at it that way, where it's like, is this Bill Belichick's best coaching job?

It might be. He is trying to play the NFL and progressively harder and harder levels in his video game, where it's like, okay, can I get this team to the playoffs with a combination of Joe Judge and Matt Patricia as my offense accordion? That's the next step up right now. Next year, he should do the fan controlled football and let us just call the place. Yeah. Or next year, probably have his son call the place.

Yeah. And then on the other side, Kyler Murray, that's sucked toward ACL looks like it was, I mean, it's already been a bummer of a year for the Cardinals. And you could almost like see them quitting live on Monday Night Football. Yeah. It was tough to see that with Kyler. There was, there was that first like half had so many injuries, so many injuries that did you know that the real first injury of the game was actually the Cardinals mascot?

Is this another Poe the Raven? He got injured running off and he had to be, he literally had to like take his arm around someone's shoulder and be helped into the locker room. Was it a lower body injury? It was a lower body injury before the game even started. I didn't even, it was a bad sign for the rest of the game. Here's how much the Cardinals bummed me out. I didn't even know the Cardinals had a mascot.

Yeah. I've never seen it. I thought it was Cortez, the guy that wears the helmet in the stands at number 69. It is. He'll never get injured. That is, you know, that guy has a horse. That guy's got big, big bones. Yes.

But yeah, it was a bummer of a game. It was. It was like, the only time that it was kind of a fun game was when we had the back to back. It looked like it was going to be back to back like pick six fumble six. Yeah. That was an interesting time. Holy shit.

Everything's, you know, chaos. Colt McCoy getting in for a second. People were like, oh yeah, Colt McCoy. He's good. Colt McCoy is the perfect quarterback to start one game for your team in November. You already did it. And he did that. And we got that game out of Colt McCoy.

Yeah. The, maybe the funniest stat of the night. This made me mad. I actually got mad, but it's, it's very funny. You know how long it's been since Cliff Kingsbury has won a coaches challenge in days? Oh, it's like probably like 400 days. You would think that. Yeah.

That seems like a long amount of time. Yeah. 1,087 days. Oh shit. It's been 1,087 days since Cliff Kingsbury has won a coaches challenge. Shout out to Stathole Sports. I didn't know it was that many days. I just heard them say he hasn't won a challenge since 2019, which is pretty bad.

But when you say in days, that's almost twice as long as the second worst coach who's Mike Tomlin. Yeah. Who's notoriously bad. Pete Carroll is up there. He's a big fan of the false flags. You know that. He's not having an account because he throws, he throws a challenge flags out of like passion.

Yeah. There's no science behind this. There's a lot of coaches out there like Mike McCarthy. He's one of the worst too. But he's, he's a coach that'll just challenge a play because he doesn't like what happened in the play. Right. And he's just frustrated.

He'll hope that something different happens the second time that he sees it. Yeah. He's basically a fan where we're like, no, no, no, change this. Like they're going to change it. Like there's, there's somewhere right now, there's a Saints fan who's still thinking they're going to change the pass interference call from 2018. So yeah. Exactly.

Like those that, and I respect that guy. Cliff Kingsbury has no excuse whatsoever for being this bad at challenges. The other coaches that are up there, Mike Tomlin, Belichick, Pete Carroll, those are, are three of the other worst in the NFL. Their excuses, they never get to watch NFL games on TV. Right. So they're not good at watching replays. Right.

They don't even know that replays exist. They don't started coaching before the yellow line existed. They don't know the green zone. Yeah. Um, they, those coaches have a reason for it. When it comes to Cliff Kingsbury, you're young enough, dude, you were coaching college football poorly like four years ago. You should know how to watch NFL football.

Yes, but he doesn't. That's why I mean, we've talked about this before on this show, but every staff should have somebody that's really good at watching sports to be their challenge guy. Yeah. Cliff Kingsbury is, he's, that's just insane, 1,087 days. That is a long, long time. Excuse me. Whoa.

That's a loud one. Yeah. That must have been that, that bean I had for lunch. We've had some serious drilling going on. Billy's going to have to go down and give him a talking to that one. That's very loud. That feels like they're just drilling out of spite for us. I think they're drilling into this wall right here.

Yeah. Billy's going to have to go out there. Uh, the, the other thing. So money football was kind of a bummer. It feels like that just happens late in the season. Um, I do. This is, this is a lot. I'm going to kill Pete.

This is a lot. I'm going to, I'm going to murder Pete. Well, it's a good thing the wifi always works. What's going on Billy? Give us an update. Don't touch any buttons, Billy. They're right outside of our window. So I, I, I'm going to have to go through these windows.

All right. Okay. Wait. No, you're, you're not going to go through this window. This is going to be a disaster. What are you talking about? You're going to go through this. You're going to knock everything over and ruin the studio.

This is going to be so bad. Oh my God. Keep this all in. This is Billy. I don't know if that window even opens. I'm opening the first one just to roll down the blind so I can just put a message up to the window. Oh, okay.

Jake just dropped his computer. This is chaos. It's absolute chaos. Messy's, Messy's dribbling through Croatia right now. Yeah. Argentina. Oh my God. Billy, be careful.

This is glass. Jake. Oh my God. Argentina. Argentina. It's going to be Argentina. Probably France. Probably France.

Although we said that about every. Okay. Did you hear that the Queen of England actually hired the British soccer team to be her pallbearers so that they could let her down one last time? I like it. I like it. I didn't know these windows opened. Billy, I don't think this is going to work.

Are you going to call out and scare them? Oh, I thought, but oh, oh, he's got him. He's got him. Oh, can you stop? Two layers. Billy just gave him the throat slash. Give him the $15,000 fine, Billy. You got him, Billy.

Get him with the phone. Tell him, tell him the little app. What do you want to fuck? That will pause them. They're stopping right now. They would stop for Glinney Ball's show. Find another number one sports podcast that we'll just podcast through a drill in our face.

They've been doing construction. No jumper. Probably. Yeah, no jumper. For sure. No, no, not no jumper. The only fans. One.

Yes. All right. They're looking. Billy, what's the sign say? What does it say, Billy? Something in English and something in Spanish. Oh, you did bilingual. Oh, bilingual.

Billy. I'm going to make. No mask on. He's giving a thumbs up. Yeah. Yeah. Tell him to guess a number. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh my God, Billy. You did it. Wait. No brand's name. Numero. Numero. Numero.

Good job, Billy. Let me see your message, Billy. Noventa. Billy wrote, hey, guys, if you don't stop drilling, I'm calling ice. What the fuck, dude? That's fucked up. Jesus Christ, Billy. All right.

So where were we? Oh, NFL. I have. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I was going to say we have our first Saturday games coming up, which is always fun. Yeah.

Saturday games get you to get the juices flowing NFL all weekend long. I also wanted to bring attention to a tweet that came across my desk today, PFT, that I would like to get your take on. It's been a while since I've had a tweet come across my desk. Yeah. Across my desk. Yeah. He said, hey, pardon my take, just a fun little fact when you continuously hammer home the

point differential stats. Yeah. When it comes to the Vikings and it's a picture of an Andrew Siciliano tweet that says, all this talk about the Vikings negative point differential, six of the 14 teams currently in playoff positions have given up more points than they've scored. Tennessee minus 35, Giants minus 33, Chargers minus 31, Bucks minus 30, Washington commanders minus three, Minnesota minus one. So the point is that the Vikings are just as shitty as those teams.

Yeah. So I got a tweet from somebody today and gave it across my desk and it said, PFT, care to comment on the fact that the Washington commanders have a slightly worse point differential than the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah. And I replied to, I said, yes, my comment is that the Washington commanders will also not win the Super Bowl. Right.

Exactly. And then I saw that I had a bunch of replies that it was also tagging you probably to that tweet right there. I quote you today. This is the, that's the entire thing is like, it's a cell phone. Yes. You're correct. The Minnesota Vikings, they have a better point differential than the New York Giants

and the Tennessee Titans and the Chargers, all teams that are not going to win the Super Bowl. It was just a list of teams. What about the Cowboys? Big Cat? The Cowboys do not have a negative point differential. Oh, okay. Interesting.

It's a list of teams that we all agree will not be winning the Super Bowl and that's, you proved our point for us. Yes. Thank you. The 10 and three Vikings are on this list of six teams in the playoffs right now that are not going to win the Super Bowl. And Kirk Cousins playing great. Playing great.

Playing great football. Justin Jefferson, best receiver in the league. This is not a knock against Kirk Cousins, believe it or not. Your defense stinks. Your defense is trash. Kirk Cousins has actually improved against the Blitz and under pressure. He played as good as you could ever hope Kirk Cousins could play last week against the, excuse me, against the Lions and, and you lost because your defense can't stop anybody.

The other tweet that has come across my desk that has made me laugh is the tweet that is the Packers to make the playoffs. So there's some, some people, this is the time of season where, you know, we talked about it with the Steelers and the Browns and the Raiders, like the win out mentality. Like if you, if you're one of those teams that's five and seven or five and eight, hey, what if we just went out? Well, the Packers have a path to the playoffs and it was like Packers went out and the first, the first and second thing were the Giants and commanders both have to go one and three

in their last four. Yeah. They play each other. Yeah. So if either of them wins, which that's an F because they did tie, they could tie again. Then they just have to win one more game. Yep. So it's, you know, it's, it is that season where we're just holding on for hope.

Also in Monday night football, they debuted a new graphic for the playoff picture. They, they replaced sniffing around. I liked sniffing around and the new phrase is now loitering that they're using. I don't like loitering. Loitering feels like it should be a subcategory after sniffing around of teams like the Packers that are going to be loitering on this graphic for the next couple of weeks, but they're not going to make the playoffs like mathematically alive should be loitering. So as far as I'm concerned, my power rankings go as thus.

Number one, sniffing around, number two in the hunt, number three, loitering. So we'll see what Joe Buck has them do next week. Yes. And, and ready to attack, ready to attack. What was that from? No, I'm just thinking of, oh, that's, that's Jake's like, they're, they're ready to like attack, ready to attack. There's also, I like that Jake, there's a narrative and I think this happens like pretty

much every other year in the NFL when there's maybe not one team that's like super dominant, you know, the Eagles have been super dominant where everyone's like, the NFL is just trash. I, I pushed back on that being like, I think there are six really, really good teams. Yeah. And the, and the only, and the only thing about the NFL, which is why we love the league is that the best team and the worst team, there's not that much of a difference between them. And we've got, that's just how it works.

We've got more great quarterbacks now than we've had in a very long time. Yeah. For a while, the great quarterbacks, it was like, you've got Tom Brady, you've got Peyton Manning. You've got Big Ben, and then maybe you could put like Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers and like that. Yeah. And Phil Rivers was loitering.

That was it. That was it. Now we've got great quarterbacks everywhere. Yeah. And I'm like very excited about the playoffs. I'm buying stock in the future of the NFL. Yeah. I am too.

I just, it's a lazy argument. I feel like every, again, every other year where it's like, because there's not like three teams that are all have one loss, everyone's like, well, these, this season just sucks in the NFL. Everyone just sucks. I'm like, no, I really do think there are six teams that are very, very good. And we talked about it on Sunday, but like those six teams will produce the Super Bowl winner.

Yeah. I'm confident we put our life on it. The other subcategory of that graphic that we've always talked about is the don't look now team. Yeah. I don't have a don't look now team. I'm looking, I had the Cowboys, but they're no longer, like people are looking at the Cowboys.

Oh yeah. People, I think it's, I think. Bengals? No. No, I think people are looking at the Bengals too, because they went to the Super Bowl last year. Don't look now. Yeah.

I think unfortunately, and I hate it because I don't want to fall back in this trap. I think it's the Chargers. I think the Chargers are the don't look now team. I think that they're the team that you don't want to play. The Ravens could be potentially the don't look now. If Lamar gets healthy, yeah, if Lamar gets healthy, I think the Ravens are definitely don't look now material. Or the Dolphins, if Tua figures it out in the last couple of weeks.

Well, so the Dolphins, I'm Tuanan, there's a problem for the Dolphins this Saturday. I don't know if you saw the report. I did problem in Sunday night football. They played in LA. It was 55 degrees and a report came afterwards that the Dolphins had heaters on their sidelines. I'm going to guess that's not great for them having to go to Buffalo on Saturday. You shouldn't smoke during NFL games. Billy, could you give us a weather report for Buffalo Saturday night?

I'm going to say that that that's the sign of a candy ass team, heaters for 55 degree weather. And just so we remind everyone, when the Dolphins are like decent and they go to a cold weather city at the end of the season, there are no, there is no uniform combo that is more candy ass than what they have. I just envision every time the Dolphins have to play in a cold weather game, I envision Matt Moore getting knocked out in Pittsburgh. You can't, you can't play in the snow in the candy ass.

Are they teal? Yeah, I don't know. Teal. If I, if I don't know immediately what color your uniform is off the top of my head, if it's not a basic color, then your team sucks in the cold weather. They should. Aqua. They should actually.

Aqua in the cold. Aqua doesn't exist in the cold. If the Dolphins were smart, they would actually have a cold weather alternate. Yes. Like just be like, Hey, our, our, we're now dark blue or black. Yeah. Black or dark black in the snow. Yeah.

These are our jerseys. It's not, it's not going to be also a different name for your team besides the Dolphins. Yeah. Like just polar bears or sharks. Yeah. Yeah. Snowfish. Uh, what do you got, Billy?

Very dry 30 degrees. Oh, that's, I think they might need the heaters. No sinks though. Oh. Oh, they're off. It's Saturday. Not Sunday. Oh no.

Saturday night. It's Saturday night. It's supposed to snow. Night time. Now is it lake effect? Cause you can get some higher, higher degrees with the snow. Billy, Jake really enjoyed that moment. He really enjoyed.

No, like snow showers at 11 a.m. Well for being, for being our weather guy, Billy is definitely the worst on this show at, at actually reading the weather. I had the best tools though. You do have the best. Yeah. Yeah. And he knows how to open windows.

And he knows how to, and yeah. And he's got, you've got so many strengths. It's just one that I think you could improve on would be your, your weather telling abilities. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. Other things we should talk about, uh, the passing of Mike Leach, tragic, terrible. I think we should actually rename the football guy the year award for him because they,

that's hot in the streets right now. The NBA just renamed all their awards. So motion to rename football guy of the year award to the Mike Leach football guy of the year award. I concur. Yeah. Everyone vote. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Memes is saying no. Why are you saying no memes? What, what are you saying no for? Oh, okay. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. All right. Sorry. Sorry. Second there. There's a lot of feedback saying we should rename the award after Mike Leach, which I

don't have a problem with, but I think John Madden should be a different award. I have, I have a solution. John Madden should be grit week. Yes. The John, because we're going to be in a bus. Yeah. According to my record, which is going to name everything according to my records from when I, uh, been in charge of the award every week, uh, Mike Leach has been nominated 23

times. So it's a war eight times. Yeah. Mike Leach is, he is such a unique personality. And people like Mike Leach, and I guess it's tough to say people like Mike Leach, because there's nobody like Mike Leach. He was a one of a kind individual. He's the person that makes college football fun.

Yes. Like having those unique personalities, doing things their own way, the way that he used to, uh, interact with the media and go off on these tangents about things that had nothing to do with sports whatsoever and fighting mascots and being a pirate. What I love is he's just, he was unapologetically himself in a sport that sometimes forces you to be, uh, forces you to conform to what things have always been like before you got there. And Mike Leach was like unapologetically himself throughout his entire career. And he made the sport so much more fun.

And he also like, I felt like he was having fun when he was coaching and you can't say that for a lot of good coaches. Like I don't think Nick Saban has fun. I don't think Kirby smart is having fun. Mike Leach had fun and you could feel it. You could, you could sense it the way that he interacted with his players. He also was just a goddamn good cut football coach. So I was looking at his career.

So just talking about his coaching tree. These are the names under him for his coaching tree. Sonny Dykes in the college football playoffs, uh, Dana Holgerson, Seth Luttrell, Lincoln Riley, ever heard of him. Phillip Riles, Dave Aranda, Cliff Kingsbury, Neil Brown, Josh Hypole, like his, what he touched and everyone that like came after him. He has such an impact on all of college football. And I was, I was looking up his seasons as well.

The way he turned around Texas tech in Washington state, like he wasn't coaching bluebloods. He was coaching teams that no one else wanted to coach and he made them really, really good. So in the 10 seasons at Texas tech, he was 84 and 43. He won 84 games in 10 seasons in the 21 seasons prior, Texas tech won 113 games. Yeah. So he made Texas tech. It thing. They had their first 11 win season in 30 years under Mike Leach.

And then at Washington state in eight seasons at Washington state, he had 55 wins in the eight seasons prior, Washington state had 29 wins. He doubled it. And then he also has the only 11 win team in Washington state history in 2018. He was just a phenomenal, phenomenal college football coach, legendary guy. We had him. We were lucky enough to have him on the show. We even got duped for people long time, AWL's PFT and I and our old studio.

It used to be, there was a control room that controlled the radio and the podcasting. And we had Mike Leach set up to have him on and somehow a radio caller got through. And for 10 minutes, we interviewed a fake Mike Leach being like, the guy was doing a Mike Leach voice and we were just looking at each other the whole time, like, I don't think there's Mike Leach. And then we finally asked a question to like nail him. He's like, guys, like, yeah, I'm not Mike Leach. I have a confession to make.

What? Is that you? That was my fault in the radio room. Oh, you put it through. They got the wrong caller from Barstool Radio and put it in. It was a crazy moment to be like, because at the start, we were talking to this guy and he was going off on these tangents and at first we're like, well, Mike Leach would go off on these weird tangents and then progressively the interview unraveled and we were like, OK,

this is probably not him. It does figure that Billy was responsible for that. That makes complete sense. Yeah. And we were but we were lucky enough to have him on. Go listen to that interview. Oh, we got into with him about whether or not the sun was hot or cold. Yep.

That was actually, we should put that clip out. That was a very funny clip with Mike Leach. That's exactly the type of hypothetical argument that this dude lived for. And not only did he take those schools and turn them around, but he actually changed the entire sport of football. Yeah. Yeah. With his offense and how, mommy, like you can trace almost every electric offense in

the NFL and college football in the last 10, 15 years directly back to what Mike Leach invented. Yeah. And the way that he played the game was revolutionary and it's just, yeah, I mean, he's just an all time, all time football guy, human and it's, it's devastating. I'm pretty sure he popularized the free play for Verts, where if every, every team should run that first play the bowl game, that would be awesome. Last two quick Mike Leach stories I wanted to share this one.

I didn't, I kind of forgot, I either forgot it or I never realized it. But in 2008, I want to say Texas Tech had really bad special teams. Mike Leach literally pulled a kid who's doing a field goal competition during the game. Like one of those like win free tuition. Yeah. He pulled him off the field and he made his, him his extra point kicker and primary kicker for three seasons. That's incredible.

Like you can actually see the clip of the kid hitting the extra point or the field goal for the free tuition and he had a staffer go grab him before he could get off the field. And he's like, you're our kicker now. Like he, and he said it in his 60 minutes interviews, like, well, he hit a, he hit a kick in front of a full stadium for free tuition. So I figured he could hit a kick, extra point for us. That's true. Next three seasons.

And he saved the scholarship. He saved the scholarship. For someone else. Yeah. He's also a, an all time rugby guy. He was a rugby player in college and then implemented a lot of stuff when, with that game into his air raid offense, believe it or not. Yeah.

And he's so just a tremendous loss, really, really sad. We loved him. And the last thing I'll leave with Mike Leach, because it's just perfect, Mike Leach, and also kind of tells you like all the tributes are awesome and it's sad, but also remember who Mike Leach was. When he did an E 60 interview with Jeremy Schapp a few years ago, Jeremy Schapp asked when people write the Mike Leach obituary, how do you want to be remembered? And he responded, well, that's their problem.

What do I care? I'm dead. Yeah. So it's like a perfect, perfect Mike Leach. Yeah. I love him. I mean, he's, he's, he's one of, one of the best characters that football's ever had. So this is my personal favorite Mike Leach story.

He was, this was at Texas Tech, Lincoln Riley overheard this. So Lincoln Riley was the one that, that told the story. He got a phone call, picked it up, said, Hey, how's it going? And he listened for a second and asked, where are you calling from? He kept talking on the phone and I eventually sort of tuned out now a short phone conversation for coach leach is an hour. So he was talking about this and that and I was kind of hunkered down working on my own stuff.

At some point the call got dropped. They must have lost reception. Coach said, can you hear me? Are you there? Then he closed his old flip phone, swung it back open and redialed. He said, Hey, sorry, I just lost you. And they resumed their conversation for another 30 minutes or so before coach leach finally hung up after he was done.

We started talking. I said, Hey, coach, who was that on the phone? And he said, Oh, they had the wrong number. Yeah. I mean, that's Mike leach. Yeah. Just talk to anyone. Talked with a stranger for an hour on the phone because it dialed the wrong number.

He would talk to anyone and he was, uh, yeah, the absolute best, the absolute best. So, uh, you know, RIP Mike leach, but reminder he, he didn't care cause he's dead. So you know, the tributes are awesome and, and, uh, we will be renaming the football guy of the year award in his memoriam and, uh, yeah, I feel like that's a good way to do it. We got to make a real trophy now. Yeah. Cause Mike leach would want it.

Maybe it's just a pirate. How about this? I was going to say a football with an eye patch and a sword, like a pirate football. Yeah. I like that. Or maybe it's a sword and the handle of the sword is made out of pigskin. That could work. Or it's a sword that's going through a football.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll come up with it. Um, and yeah, that will be awesome. All right. Let's, um, let's transition to hot seat, cool throne. And then we have our interview with Taylor Decker and will levis, uh, hot seat, cool

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Memes put the camera on yourself. Memes. It is. Okay. My cool throne is hockey fights. Oh, you're starting with cool. Throne. Yeah.

Okay. Interesting. It's hot seat. Cool. Throne is the name of the segment. All right. All right. All right.

He just does a different bright lights on you goofy, goofy style. Your cool throne is hockey fights, hockey fights. So there was a massive hockey fight between Bruins fans and coyotes fans and somebody wound up getting their finger bitten off. Yeah. Oh hell yeah. PLL style. That was an awesome fight.

Yeah. There were cops diving in the pile. Yeah. That cop there. If you didn't see it, go just Google it. It was basically a huge brawl and then a cop decided instead of like, let me break this up. He just jumped on top of the pile and took out like five people.

He was sick. Yeah. I would like to just acknowledge the fact that there are coyotes fans out there that care enough about hockey to get into a fight. That's pretty cool. And also shout out to coyotes fans who kind of won the fight with the lower ground, which is a very hard thing to do in a stadium. Not really a stadium though.

Whatever it is. It's a college. Yeah. I understand why people keep fish hooking people. It gets your finger bitten off every time. Well if you get the fish hooking correctly, it won't get bitten off. I know, but no one's good at that nowadays. Yeah.

There was, my college roommates and I had a fish hook phase and it ruined some trust in relationships. I think if you get a fish hook, like you can't get it out. I kind of think that fish hook should be allowed in fights because you're playing a dangerous game. If you missed the fish hook, yeah, your fingers getting bitten off. But if you get it, you got them, you win. You got them good.

And then my hot seat is Max. Oh, why is that? He doesn't know ball. He doesn't know ball. And his comments. We had a lot of people commenting on Max's lack of ball knowledge. Max, you were saying you got hammered in the DMs. People just coming at you left and right about not knowing ball.

Yeah, it was a bad look. It was a bad look for me not knowing ball and it was a bad look for this podcast. And I would like to apologize to everyone for thinking that you couldn't advance on a fumble. Okay. So, and yeah, I mean, it was probably. It's funny when you say it out loud. Yeah.

Probably the worst thing that could ever be done. Yeah. Yeah. Piled the pop quiz on the blog. Piled the pop quiz and then Max, you said you had one person who DM'd you like a script to come back at us. So I thought that that's what it was because it was a list of, it was a essay full of ten different stats on football.

But then when I did a deep dive into it, it was just how the Eagles are the best team in the NFL. Like of all time. So give us some. The Eagles are on pace right now to be the, to have the highest sacks per game of any team in the last 20 years. Wow. Yeah.

The Eagles are on pace for the most rushing touchdowns by a team in the Super Bowl era with 35 touchdowns. Wow. That's ball. Yeah. Ball is life. Jalen Hertz is on pace for the second most rushing touchdowns in a season by a quarterback, only getting beat out by Cam Newton.

I don't like that stat. This is, if you say like on pace to have the second most, that's not that cool. This is also just so funny because it's in the mind of a Philly fan where it's like, we made fun of Max for not knowing ball. That's obviously very tongue-in-cheek because it was just a silly comment and this Eagles fan was like, they think we don't know ball. Well, here's all these facts about the Eagles being awesome. Go birds.

It's said. This one's good for you, PFT. The second quarter will be the highest amount of points scored by any team in any quarter ever. For the, for the birds. For the Eagles. Yeah. So you said that earlier.

Yeah. They fucking dominate. You know what, this is actually, this is terrible news for the Cowboys because I looked it up after the show. Dak Prescott leads the league in second quarter interceptions by far. Oh no. He's like the worst. The Eagles are the best second quarter team.

Hammer the birds. Hammer the birds. Yeah. Dak Prescott stinks. Yeah. I think part of your hatred towards Dak still stems from the fact that we had like two years where we would debate Carson Wentz versus Dak Prescott. Yes.

Now you hate Carson Wentz, but you still hate Dak because of those debates. I still think of Carson had had the opportunity. Oh no, no. No more. You don't know more. Oh no, Max is right. You're gone. We just, we just reactivated.

Yeah. No more. Carson Wentz. I agree. No, no, no. All right. PFT, your hot seat cool truck. Yeah.

Got a couple of them. My hot seat is chest boxing integrity. There's a scandal in the world of chest boxing, which is a uniquely Russian sport, I think, where it's just straight up, you box for one round and then you play chess and then you go back to boxing, then you play chess again and you can win either by knockout or by check mating your opponent, which is, it's tough because as you're playing chess, you take the breaks, you get hit in the head, then you get worse at chess as it goes along. So there's a big scandal going on over there.

They had an event two nights ago and in this scandal, it was between Andrea Botez who came into this office and played speed chess against us and her opponent. And Andrea Botez should have been awarded a technical knockout after the referee initiated the fourth standing count of the fight. And then the ref didn't know the rules, the ref didn't know boxing. And so they gave it to Dina Belenkaya, they gave her the win. And then afterwards they said, wait, we fucked up, they get to share the belt. That doesn't make much sense to me.

I think they're trying to set up for a rematch down the line. I want to go to one of these chess boxing events because it sounds amazing. Yeah, it does. It sounds like the best time ever. Like if we could incorporate chess boxing into rough and rowdy, I think that'd be cool to do like one time for one match at some point. Yes. Yeah, Billy.

I'm in. Billy, you kept leaning over and touching the mic like you're about to say something. Those Twitch streamers were the ones boxing? Yeah. She was Andrea Botez was doing it. Yeah. And she, Andrea Botez was by far the better boxer. Badass.

There's just a few sports out there that are, you can tell that they're just Russian, like the slap thing, the slap competition. Yeah, they're like, how can we make this more Russian? Let's just beat the fuck out of each other. Have you seen Telebooth, Telephone Booth fights? Yeah. How about Telephone Booth fights? How about the Russian like mass boxing in the woods?

Have you ever seen those where it's like a hundred dudes versus a hundred dudes? Yeah, the Hooligan fights. Or they do like they do team UFC too. Step into the ring and then like it usually gets at the end of those fights, it's always like four against one and it's just some guy on the ground just getting stomped out. Well, actually speaking of this, this was going to be my cool throne, chucking nucks, but basically China and India had one of those over a border dispute. That's sick.

Like India, China border. That's how it should be. Yeah, no guns. All wars. There's wars in general should be like a hundred thousand people from each army squaring up on a beach. Imagine just sending like a bunch of Philly fans after after like they lose the World Series. Our Coyotes fans.

Yeah, fucking kill them. That's, you know what? We should update if John Lennon was alive today, he'd do imagine, but just be like, imagine if instead of nuclear wars, we just fucking threw down. Yeah, yeah. Everyone gets home for dinner. Chuck knocks. My cool throne is criminals.

Oh, criminals are on the cool throne because there's a massive fire burning right now at the New York police department's evidence locker out in Brooklyn. Like the entire building's burning down right now. So that means that criminals are just going to be able to get off with everything. If basically if you've committed a crime in New York where they need evidence for you, that evidence just got burned up today. Oh, El Chapo. That's probably so high smelling that smoke.

Yeah, yeah, and like some janky ass drugs. That's true. It's probably crack cocaine. I'm looking at the picture right now. That's a big fire. It looks pretty cool. That's a fucking big ass fire. Also, my other cool throne is Big Ben.

Yes, back. We talked about Big Ben on Monday's show. Speculating that he would want to come back and play for the Steelers this year on his podcast. He said that he's thought about coming back to play for the 49ers. Oh, wow. So he's volunteering his services. That's something that the 49ers. Kyle Shanahan did not ask.

Kyle Shanahan is like, get the fuck out of here. Kyle Shanahan should preemptively block Big Ben's telephone. I also want to play for the 49ers. Yeah, we're doing unrealistic things. Me too. That'd be great. I think I could fit in nicely. Like you take Big Ben's skill set and you take what the 49ers are looking for. Besides the fact that he's tall,

I don't think that there's anything about Big Ben that would lend the 49ers. He literally wouldn't throw over the middle of the field ever. That's all you need to do for the 49ers. He would never go under center in a million years. Can you imagine how bad he wouldn't be able to he would he would fall down trying to hand off to Christian McCaffer. I think that you could name a quarterback in the NFL right now. And they're probably better suited for the 49ers than Big Ben is.

Yes. Doesn't matter who you are. Every single quarterback. Now, that doesn't mean I wouldn't watch it. No, if you play every second, I would watch it many times over. Big Ben would probably like to man to wear a Steelers uniform. Well, on the 49ers. Yeah. Come on, guys. All right. My hot seat is Chris Beard. Holy shit, that guy's a scumbag.

Oh, yeah. So I didn't really read to me the details after the fact where he was accused of choking somebody repeatedly fiance. When I said, OK, when I see choked repeatedly at that point, I move on from that person. Yeah, he. Yeah, I don't know what Texas will do. Have they announced Jake? You're a big Chris Beard guy.

No, I'm not. They suspended him, I believe, indefinitely, and they had their associate take over last night. They beat Rice in overtime. Yeah, I did take Rice plus 24. I felt like that was, you know, that was standing up for what's right. But also, like your coach literally was in jail two hours ago. Yeah, probably not focused on the game.

So, yeah. So are they going to fire him? We'll say it's a legal matter. I don't want to say something. He is good at coaching PFT. He is. That's literally like the board of regents in Texas. That's what they're doing. They're sitting in a big meeting right now being like, well, we got to fire him. Domestic violence.

He choked a woman. He's a bad person. And then some guy just like, but we're number two in the country. Pretty good. Brett McComb stands up in the back of the room. He's like, players still singing eyes of Texas after the game, though. We could go to the summit, the garden. Oh, so you are a big.

So you know, yeah. I don't know what did you tell them that was that game? Yeah. What was that conversation like between you and I talked to him? You know, what's up? Nope. What do you say, Billy? Does he ever lose a lot of close games?

What do you mean? You're trying to make a choking joke. It's very inappropriate. So I will say much like you took rice plus 24. Yeah, I'm dropping taxes from my power rankings. Oh, entirely. So now it's just Illinois number one. Do they have us?

I don't think Illinois is number one anymore. In my power. Oh, in your power. Yeah, I don't care. I saw them. I saw them. Virginia. I saw them play Texas and I put them number one in my power rankings.

Now Texas is out. Is Wisconsin your bracket yet? Yeah. Yeah. My top 25, buddy. Yes. OK. Yeah.

Are you doing a bracket this year? No, but that can just be the joke. No, it's not a joke. I want you. I told you, I want you to make a bracket and make sure they're in. I'll do one eventually. OK. Yeah.

Not before selection Sunday. Yes, before selection Sunday. OK, they're in. By the way, when I was watching that game between Illinois and Texas last week, shocked that Kofi Cockburn is not. Yeah. Kofi, yeah. Kofi is not.

And I call him Kofi Cockburn. Yeah, he's not in any of it. He's McDonald's lawsuit. He's not there anymore. But shocked that he's not there. And he should be back in school. Like, you could probably make millions of dollars there. Instead, he's playing like in Japan.

Yeah. In Taiwan or something. Something's going to transfer. I guess you just find that way instead. It's tough because he was, he's just so big. Yeah. And such a big presence, he should be back at Illinois. Yes, he should.

And then my cool throne is anyone who wants a PS5 for Christmas. Because if you go to StealthBlueCoffee.com today, just today, and you buy any Kofi, you could potentially get a Golden Mug. We're doing a Golden Mug. So you could open up a box, and it could be a Golden Mug. And that means you get a PS5.

And if you do the Stealth Blue Coffee Club membership, you get five entries. I've always wanted to do a Golden Something. Golden Ticket, Golden Mug. So I have five PS5s. You know who'd love that. Psalm. Grandpa Joe.

Yeah, he would. Hank, Golden Ticket, yeah. Hank probably is going to try to rig this. I won't let Hank rig my Golden Mug promotion. That's a guarantee. Read the fine print, Henry Lockwood, not eligible. Not eligible. But yeah, go to StealthBlueCoffee.com.

You buy anything today, Wednesday, and you could potentially win a PS5. And they're very hard to get. They were like, I was in a meeting today. They're like, it was not easy to get them. But we got them all. And they actually have a Stealth Blue Coffee skin on them, which is kind of cool.

Billy, you also cannot win this. OK. Actually, no, you can. You can. No, if I start gaming again, I'm going to have no time. Yeah, you can win it. Billy's talking about gaming like. Billy wins the Mug.

Like it's a heroin issue. Oh, if I fall back off that wagon. My hot seat is Sam Bankman Freed. He was officially arrested in the Bahamas. You're in jail, bitch. And he's, yeah, so. Do you know what I was thinking about it earlier? Like the worst part for him is, you know, maybe not even

the fact that he's going to jail, committed fraud, stole a bunch of people's money. It's the fact that, like, to the regular world, I count myself in that where I'm not really into crypto. He just got exposed as being the biggest dork alive. Like I saw a picture of him, and I heard his voice. And I was like, this guy's a fucking dork. Yeah, so.

Like he was kind of living undercover where it's like he had all his Bitcoin bros. And he was living in Bahamas, living the high life. And now that he's like crossed over to the normal people know who he is, they're like, dork. Yeah, I also think the fact that people call him SBF, like that sounds way cooler. Like now that I see Sam, he is a Sam Bankman Freed.

He's not an SBF. SBF sounds like someone that Obama would drone strike. Yeah, well, SBF sounds, yeah, exactly. Like he does sound like a dude with some shit to him. Now, they're saying that he was doing a Twitter space yesterday. And I feel like everything I know about this guy comes from him doing a Twitter space.

If I'm not a lawyer, if I was a lawyer, I imagine my first piece of advice to my clients would be like, just stay off Twitter spaces for a while. Well, that was the thing. He didn't broadcast everything. He did like all these shows and live interviews where he basically, people were like, what happened? He'd be like, ah, we kind of got confused with some stuff.

Yeah. And yeah, so he's a dork. I would just, I would. He lived in the, there's never been a person who's wasted the Bahamas more than him. Because you know, he went to the beach with his shirt on. That's what I thought about him for when I was doing my initial research, but then I've been educated

and he was just having meth-fueled orgies. Yeah, he was. But still, he was going to the beach with his shirt on. Yeah. He does not look like a Bahamas guy. I did hear that he also lived right next door to Dan Snyder. Oh. So hopefully he gets caught up in some of this investigation.

I would assume so. But just if you're under indictment or might be under indictment for something, just like, don't do Twitter spaces. Yeah. Is that, that hard to do? He's dork. Stay offline.

Yeah. All right. Your cool throne? My cool throne was Chuckie Nux. And in the environment, we have found this nuclear fishing breakthrough where we might have unlimited energy. Fishing? Are you talking about fishing?

Fishing. We're fishing for nuclear. I think you're fishing. We got a fishing. Fishing? Fishing. Fishing. Fishing.

F-I-S-S-I-O-N. Fishing. Fishing. Are we fishing? I think you're talking about nuclear fusion. I think fusion and fission might be different. They're different things. We've been doing nuclear fission.

I think when you said that, I thought we were like literally going out on like a boat and we were like trying to pull up some nuclear shit. I know. It's like fission with dynamite, except you're dropping A bombs on there. I think it's fission. I think that's the proper thing.

I know. I think you're wrong. I think it's, I'm pretty sure that we've been doing nuclear fission for a while. Yeah. Now we're doing nuclear fission. But now we have a big breakthrough. This is fusion, though.

We brought in a hundred pounder. Fission or fusion. The difference between fusion and fission, fusion is where two light atomic nuclei. OK, this is way too complicated. Yeah. I'm just going to Google nuclear fusion, and then I'm going to be like, see Billy, I'm right.

Nuclear fusion. Yeah, all the top stories. Scientists achieved nuclear fusion energy breakthrough 37 minutes ago. Nuclear fission. In the grand scheme of things, a fish killed by nuclear power stations palented in significance against the catch of the monster.

OK, so you can fish for nuclear fish. All right, Jake, you're on sequel throne. My hot seat's Harry Kane. Yeah. Couldn't make a PK under pressure, but the Syracuse men's soccer team did. PK's in the national championship over Indiana last time. The best way to decide a champion.

Wow. That was, it was a great strike, too. It was pure class. Yeah. Upper 90. First national title. Congrats, Jake. Well in for the lad.

I want to give a shout out. I know you're huge. Because you're Syracuse soccer. Yeah. Syracuse football. Syracuse Gators, yeah. Yeah. And Texas basketball.

Nope. Those are your teams. Never been to Austin. OK, you're cool. My cool throne is the wild meter. Buckle up. Oh, no. I have a story to tell.

All right, hold on. Wait, let me get up and then I'm going to sit down. OK. All right, I'm sitting. OK. Here we go. In 2002, LeBron James was in high school, right? Yeah, OK, yep.

Check's out. He had a nationally televised game against Oak Hill. OK. Carmelo Anthony is all in modern. Oak Hill Academy. OK. Oak Hill Academy. Yeah, please.

On December 12, 2002, LeBron had a dunk office deal in the first quarter. He had seven first quarter points on ESPN 2. Wow. December 12, 2002. OK. Yesterday, December 12, 2022, on ESPN 2. Same channel, exactly 20 years to the day.

Brony James threw out a dunk. Is Brony James related to LeBron? He is his son. OK, all right. He threw down a dunk office deal against, I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, Key and Anthony, Carmelo's son, to give his team seven first quarter points on ESPN 2.

Wow. That is wild. Holy shit. Same day. Simulation. That's the same type of dunk. Nuclear fission broke the atmosphere. That is wild.

That is wild. Carmelo's son. That is wild. Yeah. Like, wild. You think Carmelo's son is going to go to Syracuse? All right, so this is LeBron. LeBron and his son dunking at the same spot on the court

20 years later. At the basket? At the basket? Yeah, same spot. Wow. That's wild. No, they dunked. There's a net there and everything?

Yeah. Wow. Same channel, same day, 20 years. That's crazy. That is wild, Jake. No. Same Carmelo's son plays on the court team. Yeah, you could dunk from the left side or from the middle.

That is wild. Right block. That's wild. That is a true wild. That's 20 years to the day. That makes that's fucking crazy. That's also a want to feel old. Yeah.

It's a want to feel old and we live in a simulation. Yeah. All those things wrapped up into one. OK, that was great, Jake. Wild. Thank you. Great story. All right, let's get to our interviews.

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And then we got a text saying you're a huge AWL. The lions are hot. We're like, fuck yeah. Let's have them on. So let's start with the lions being hot. Like, we spent Sunday night talking about how the lions are legitimately good. I know you've talked about it.

SOL, same old lions, gets talked about a lot in Detroit. Are you guys legitimately a good team? I would say right now, yeah, man. I mean, we are rolling right now. We got that little lightning in a bottle. And man, I said it a couple of weeks ago after the Thanksgiving loss, actually. They're like, man, this isn't the same old team right now.

And my DMs got lit up about that. People were sick about me saying that. They're like, oh, you're full of shit. You don't know. But I'm like, man, we're different, man. We're rolling. And Dan Campbell, I know you guys love Dan. I mean, he was saying it all year, man.

We were in, like, one-score games. And we were close in a lot of games. And we were just, like, right there. And I don't know. We just figured it out recently. And then, man, it's sweet, man. Yeah, yeah. It stayed in the fire.

You said it. You guys are rolling right now. I would agree with that 100%. And after those, you've had a number of close losses this year. And we kind of joke around. We said on Monday's show, what's your favorite Lions win of the season? Mine was the three-point loss against the Eagles.

Big Cats was a three-point loss against the Bills. There is a small element of truth to that, though. You guys are playing legitimate Super Bowl contenders. And you're within one or two plays of beating them on a pretty consistent basis. What has the message been after those games to make you really believe, like, this is not a fluke. We're good, as opposed to being, like, oh, no.

Like, we always find a way to lose those close ones. I think Dan has been pretty consistent with his messages the entire time, the entire season, even dating back to last year. You know, we'd be in some close games when we just wouldn't be able to finish it out. And I think it just becomes a maturity thing. Because, like, we are a super young team.

I'm the longest-tenured guy by, like, two or three years. And I'm only in my seventh year. And it was just, like, man, we just got to figure out a way to win. And, like, go out there and, like, play confident, man. Just, like, don't be scared of nobody. Like, you're out here for a reason. You're on this team for a reason.

So just making those plays at the end of the game has been huge. Because you'd look at the Minnesota game this past week. Yeah. We should have closed out the game the first time. Yeah. And come on. Yeah.

We always like to play the game of, like, OK, there's the best player on the team. And then there's the most important player on the team. We all know that Jack Fox is the best player on the lines. So who would you say is the most important player on the lines? Man, you put me in a bind here, huh? Yeah.

I mean, I would say right now, our quarterback is on fire, man. He is killing it right now. And you need a good offensive line for that, man. So I think I play an important position. But man, our O-line's been good. Our defense has been good. But I think our quarterback has been on fire right now. Yeah.

He has. And he's a good friend of ours. Have you noticed, like, a change in the huddle with Jared? And he's playing probably the best ball of his career. Has there been, like, a moment where you're like, oh, things have started to click and he just, the confidence or whatever it may be, the way he's commanding the offense, has there been that moment this year where it kind of turned?

From a big guy's perspective, looking at it over, like, the past six weeks, his pocket presence and his confidence in the pocket to just sit in there and trust the protection has been, like, really, really good. And if we know where he's at, we can block for him. We're a talented enough group. And then he's just making those plays. I mean, he's making them tight window throws.

We got some receivers snagging, snagging some crazy catches. And I think that's the biggest thing, from my perspective, has been him in the pocket. He's been awesome in the pocket, especially with some of the best groups we've been facing. So you mentioned the Vikings game and closing that game out. Obviously, the big pass to Panayasul, which was awesome.

When you're drawing that up in practice, did you advocate for yourself? Were you, like, Coach Campbell, have caught two touchdown passes? Like, why am I not the guy getting this pass? Were you kind of pissed? Like, that should have been you. I wish. So we've been riding routes in practice for, like, four

or five weeks. I think they've been kind of tuning it up. The whole old line runs of a pat-n-go where we just, like, run deep balls and catch them. And I think we've been doing that so we can get some catches. And then the media doesn't think anything's going on. And then that play to Panay was supposed to be in the red zone for a touchdown.

But we needed just a first down in the middle of the field. And I was like, shit, man. I think if I get three, I'm, like, maybe leading active players and touchdowns for Lyman. I'm like, come on, man. Get me a canton or something. Yeah. It was an awesome play.

Yeah. It was an awesome play. And when you're in the huddle with it, is there, like, like he calls that play? Does everyone's eyes light up? Like, all right, here we go. Like, this is going to be sick. Well, it was set up the play before.

We had Panay report as an eligible tight end and just going a flock motion to kick out the DN on a run. So we were kind of setting it up the whole game, running jumbo tight ends and stuff like that. And then we call that play. And obviously the first down, he slaps the dude after the play. And then, I mean, it was his son was at the game.

So he just had a baby not too long ago. And that was the first game his son was at. So, I mean, it's super cool for him. So I was most happy for him. He's my guy. That's a sign of maturity on your part, like aging into being comfortable with being the number two receiver option on the offensive line

at this point. You're, like, taking him under your wing. I mean, I think my points per reception is, like, insane right now. But I think I'm, like, two catches, two touchdowns, like eight yard average. The most efficient wide receiver of all time in the FL. Yeah.

Possession receiver. Yeah, so speaking of Jared, what are his gifts like to the offensive line? What's, like, when it comes to time for Christmas or the end of the season, does he get you guys, like, Yeti Coolers? Or is he, like, a PlayStation guy? What does that look like?

I think this year it's going to be kind of like a gift suite. And I've heard some of the gifts are going to be pretty top notch. And I get to pick first. So I think one of them this year, I think there's an ATV in it this year. Oh, that's awesome. And it goes down from there.

And then last year, I asked for, I'm a whiskey. I asked him to get some Papy Van Winkle, because I can't ever find it. Of course he can find it. He's a quarterback. So he got us some Papy, like, 23 or something like that, which is not easy to find. So I got that at my house for special occasions and stuff

like that. He got us, like, a bunch of cigars and, like, personalized stuff with the Papy. And I was pumped about that, because I requested it. That's a great question. That's sick. He's a great dude. He's popped that open when you guys win a playoff game this year.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. So Taylor, the best part about you reaching out and coming on, and we knowing that you're an AWL, is we can ask you the tough questions. So when you were at Ohio State, did Urban Meyer ever put his finger up your butt? Concentrally, I guess.

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is, like, you signed a contract by requesting to come on knowing that we're going to ask you Urban Meyer questions, because you know the show and you know how we talk about Urban. So that was in the fine print. Yeah, I saw that. My other follow-up question was, I read an article about how,

when you were at the Combine, you wore sleeves, because you didn't want to get asked about your tattoos. Was that because you got your tattoos for free at Ohio State, or like, why didn't you want to be asked about your tattoos? You know, just discounted and only sold a couple of things to get them. So it was like a holiday discount or something like that. I mean, I had the tattoos out, you know?

Big white guy with tattoos, it's a good look, you know? That's what you get them. If I wasn't like, people are going to have all these tattoos. Yeah, do you have a tattoo that you were trying to hide that you thought might be problematic? No. I mean, I'll tell you what, the Lions fans up here, while they do love me, they hate my Block O tattoo,

because I can see it in my uniform, and they're like, god damn it, the Decker guy. Yeah, you're an enemy territory up there. Have you been a little, I mean, the last two years, having gone Ohio State's way, you are a tough guy. I think you won, what was the award at Ohio State, like the Iron Buckeye or something? Like, you won all the toughest guy things.

Has there been, have you talked to anyone in the program, being like, yo, why are we playing like a seven on 17? Like, we got to get tougher, because Michigan, they've shoved it down your throat, bad. Yeah, they've been playing a physical brand of football. Oddly enough, I don't really know anybody at Ohio State anymore. Like, a lot of the coaches are gone that was there,

and obviously, you know, this many years into my NFL career, like, I don't know any players there. Like, I don't really know anybody there anymore. So, I mean, that's just kind of the nature of it. There's a big turnaround and stuff like that, but... That's the problem. You got to get, we got to get you back in the program to get some toughness back.

You got to get them home-bred Ohio boys back in there. That's what you need. Yeah, so, real question about Urban Meyer. You know, talk, the guy is separate from the coach, incredible coach. What was it about him, like, in terms of preparation or whatever it may be that made him so great, and also, speaking of the Ohio State Michigan thing,

like, made your teams want to beat the ever-living crap out of Michigan, because that's really what feels like it's lacking right now. It's like, it doesn't feel like that urgency of we have to crush Michigan. What was Urban Meyer able to do to get that in that team? I mean, I think, first and foremost, recruiting's huge in college.

We know that. Like, he was a phenomenal recruiter. I remember on my recruiting visit at the time I was committed to Notre Dame, because Ohio State hadn't offered me. And I went on my visit there, and he basically just, like, put all the rings on my fingers and stuff, and it was like, there's my pitch.

There's a tattoo. There's a tattoo. Come on. There's a tattoo. Yeah, and two big ones, too, some significant tattoos. Did he let you smell the rings? So, big-time recruiter. And then, like, on top of that, you go there

and you're talented, but they would develop the talent. Our coaching staff was really good, and they were, like, fanatical about, like, trying to get guys better and improve in every single way possible. And, like, I came from a small high school, so when I got there, I was like, oh, shh. Like, we're damn near professional athletes right now.

Like, this is crazy. So the recruiting and just every single day we were trying to get better, and we were going to go out there, we were going to try and dominate teams. Like, it's not just, oh, we're going to go try and win. And I mean, we were good. We were really good when I was in school. Yeah, you should probably thank me

for the Big Ten Championship game, whatever year, 2015, when Ohio State needed to get into the playoff. And Wisconsin did a solid one for the Big Ten and laid down and lost 59-nothing. That was a rig job. You know that. You were on the field. You knew. Thank you for your service.

No, you knew. Like, you probably were talking to the guys across the way, like, hey, you know the deal here. Like, we got to win by a lot. So, yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome for that one. Yeah, you were a martyr for that one, so I appreciate that. You got me that national championship ring.

Yes. It's probably a good thing you didn't go to Notre Dame too, because people would have just thought that you were a goalie. Yeah. You give off, like, real strong goalie vibes. Generic white guy. Yeah. You got the beard, the tattoos.

The long lost goalie. Yeah, they probably would have invited you onto their podcast. You're like, no one will ever know that you're not in the family. Yeah, I haven't got that invite yet. Yeah, so you're when Joe Burrow was in Ohio State, did you know that he was the dude, even though he was just a freshman? Could you tell?

He was just a freshman when I was there. As far as, like, reps on the field, he didn't get a ton while I was there, just because there's just so much competition at every position. So, didn't get a ton, but in the weight room, Mickey Morati loved the guy. And, you know, any NFL executive, anything like that. Like, if Mick will give his seal of approval on a guy,

like, that's saying a lot. And you kind of have to graduate to be in his lifting group, because there's so many strength coaches, and you go with a specific coach. So, Mick loved that guy. So, I mean, that's kind of like, I guess, an early talent hindsight that he was a guy. Yeah, yeah.

One thing that you guys have, you've had a lot of injury luck this year, where the offensive line in the past for the Lions, you've had to, like, stitch things together on the season. You haven't played as a unit in this many games as you have this year. It seems like it's been pretty consistent. I'm always curious, because we talked to, like, running backs, and we talked to them about,

like, the art of falling and how to fall correctly to, like, minimize, you know, whether or not you're going to get injured. Is there anything that goes into playing offensive line besides just kind of luck that keeps you healthy over the course of the season? I mean, a lot of it is just freak things. Like, last year, I broke my finger.

They got caught in a penny, and they do just spun it, and it just snapped my finger. Like, it was just dumb luck. I mean, we don't wear pennies anymore or hardly. So, I mean, I guess that helps. But, yeah, you just have some freak things, and, like, you're hitting people every play, 60, 70 plays, and, like, and then in practice, like, offensive linemen

obviously play every single play, and you're playing against some big freak athletes on the D-line. So some of its luck, and then I think a lot of it is just, like, how you take care of your body. Like, that becomes a full-time job. And, like, as I've gotten older, I've had to, like, prioritize, like, sleep supplementation, just soft tissue stuff, IVs, like, whatever I possibly can.

And then, like, in the offseason, where I train, they're very adamant about, like, kind of prehab stuff. Like, let's do things that's going to help you move better just so you're not injury prone. You're not stiff, like, your hips are stiff, and that's going to affect your back, your ankles, and stuff like that. So it's kind of trial and error for everybody.

And then, I don't know, there is some luck that goes into it, I think. I like that term prehab. Yeah, I need some prehab. It sounds like, yeah, I think we all do. I think, obviously, you work out with Amon Ross St. Brown, and his family is known for their workout routines. Are you, is he, like, a beast in the weight room,

like his dad is? Because we saw him on Hard Knocks. And it just seems like we joke around with the whole, like, that dude's built different. I think he actually is built different, because his dad, like, grew him in a lab to become a football player when he grew up. Yeah, man, you look at him, like, he is stacked up.

Like, he is ripped. He's got veins, muscles everywhere. Not every receiver looks like that. You know, obviously, all the receivers are pretty lean, but, like, he's kind of, he's built pretty good. And then we asked him to block a ton, and he'll go in there and just, like, saw a linebacker's head off.

And he didn't even think twice about it. Like, he is, he's impressive, especially as a young player, coming in and doing what he's done in these first two years. Like, he's a freak. We're going to get back to Taylor Decker in a second, before we do, he's brought to you by Cross Country Mortgage. Marry the home, date the rate, and divorce the rent.

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all loans subject to underwriting approval, NMLS consumeraccess.org. And now, here's more Taylor Decker. So talking about body types, you were on hard knocks this year. And one of the funniest quotes was you were talking about your entire wardrobe that you have of clothes that don't fit that you're going to wear someday.

How big is that wardrobe? And also, have you thought in your head how much weight you actually will be able to lose and how quickly you'll be able to lose it? Yeah. I would say I have a pretty extensive wardrobe of kind of hot guy things that I'm looking for to be able to wear that they just don't sell in big guy sizes.

Like, right now, I'm wearing a 4X tall Carhartt shirt that's way too big. Like, I like big shirts. Right. But yeah, I mean, I got this leather biker jacket that I just, like, I don't fit in. And I want to fit in it so bad. Like, it looks so cool.

You see it? You, like, look at it in the closet? You're, like, someday that, like, you're going to be doing this. Yeah, I have it. I have it, man. And it's just sitting there. I never wear it. I got some jeans that are too tight that I don't wear.

I got all these, like, just kind of, like, plain shirts. They're just, like, I don't know, white t-shirt. And it's just, like, man, it just doesn't fit. Like, I just look like a bag of milk in this thing. And I need to weigh, like, 250 to fit in this thing. So I'm hoping my goal is to be, like, 260, 250, 260. And I think I'm going to try and lose it pretty quick. I'm going to go, I'm going to go off of social media.

And the next time you see me, I'm going to, I'm going to look ripped up once I'm done playing, hopefully. I like that. It's like a vision. We'll see you, man. My wife's a chef, so it might not happen. Yeah. It's like a vision board for your body.

It's like, visualize, I'm going to visualize myself wearing this leather, these leather pants one day, and eventually it'll happen. What's your, what's your diet like right now in order to, to keep that weight on during the season? Man, I just eat anything and everything. I'm typically fairly, like, light, like, in regards to, like, my weight range. So I'm just, I'm just eating constantly. Um, like I said, my wife's a, she's a chef and her mom's here right now helping

with our baby. So her mom's a really good cook too. So I'm just eating anything and everything I can. Like her whole thing is just like quality ingredients. Like we're not going to be putting seed oils and stuff like that. We're going to buy everything organic. Um, and then I just, I eat stuff that I like. It's just good ingredients and I just eat a lot of it.

So like this morning I had biscuits and gravy and it was awesome. And, uh, yeah, just whatever I can to keep the weight on, man. Yeah. By the way, you, you, congratulations on the baby. You like the baby bump happened for, for the lions. I don't know if you specifically like can feel you're playing better, but you had your, your first child in the late October and you guys have been ripping off wins ever since.

It's a dad's strength, man. Uh, yeah, we've had DJ Chark had a baby. Um, I had one a couple of weeks after Panay had one, uh, big V just had one. Matt Nelson's going to have one in January. Like, and I'm going to credit all this to, uh, I had all the boys, uh, for my wedding in, in February. And I think there was some consummation of, uh, yeah, they were, they were respecting my wedding and, and consummated.

It was a good party. Wow. That's great that you could be just like, yeah, that baby's from my wedding. That baby's from my wedding. Your DJ had like an awesome playlist going on. He was playing like pony on the dance floor. Everybody was ovulating. Um, all right.

So who's the toughest guy to block in the NFL right now for you? Um, man, and I have a follow-up question, but I want to hear your answer first. I, I think, um, I think both the bosses are really good. I've actually personally not played them. I played to Joey in college every day, basically, um, Chandler Jones. I mean, I know, you know, he's, he's been doing it for a long time, super high level. Um, Julio Mack and Robert Quinn, Robert Quinn, he's, he's, he's like, he's only lined up on the left side, but it seems like everywhere he goes,

like he's a handful because he's, he's going to rush the past for every play. Um, Everson Griffin, uh, especially early in my career, man, he was a handful. I mean, there's just every team's got guys, every single team, guys. So, uh, yeah, the follow-up with Khalil Mack, um, I was doing, I was just seeing like when we've talked about you, um, and there was a blog from 2020 when Khalil Mack just absolutely fucking demolished you, uh, and it was deleted from the internet. Did you get it deleted from the internet? Are you like LeBron that you're trying to get your videos deleted?

You got to check the tape. Oh, I saw it. You got, you, he threw you into Stafford's lap. Uh, Frank Ragnow, uh, God rest his soul. I love that guy. Um, he stepped on my foot so much. I don't know. All right.

I'm going to show the tape to PFT and he can decide. I'm going to be the judge. I grind film. Khalil Mack just fucking bullied you. Oh man. He bullied you. Oh man. That's, and then you got it deleted off the internet.

I understand why you would get that erased. Yeah. You called up Al Gore. You were like, get this off. You know, you got to make some phone calls. You got to make some phone calls. He bullied you. So, you know, thanks, thanks for that guys.

I appreciate the, uh, the pub. That is tough though, because with offensive line play, like we don't know what we're talking about when we watch offensive linemen. Like sometimes if somebody falls down, we're like, oh, that's that guy's fault for doing it. But there's a lot that goes into it. Is there anything like any, uh, any analyst out there that you think, okay, this dude actually is one to listen to when it comes to talking about offensive line play? Good question.

Yeah. Great question. I think you just look at any analyst that's playing offensive line really. I mean, because there's every other position has their stats and things that you can go off of, you know, receptions, touchdowns, completion percentage, sacks, tackles, interceptions, whatever, um, and offensive linemen really the only stat that people look at for them is sacks. And that's about it. And then everything else is team stats.

So I think if it's a guy that's played, I think he's, he's great to listen to. Like us, us here in Detroit right now, TJ does a lot of stuff for us and he played. So he gets it. And there's, there's guys on some of those, uh, you know, bigger broadcasts that played. I know Joe Thomas is on there now. And I think I've seen Andrew Whitworth doing some stuff now. So I think guys that played the position, um, because it's a unique position, um, something, not the sexy position, but they understand it.

Yeah. Yeah. We need to, we need to figure out a stat for offensive linemen, like a positive stat. Because every, you're right. Every other position does have something where you can be like, oh, this dude leads the league in, in X, Y, Z, whatever it is. But there's nothing like it's hard to count pancakes for offensive linemen because there's just so much that goes into play.

Some guy might be chipping. You might have help. We need to figure out. Yeah, there's a lot of nuance, man. There's just a ton of nuance because like, oh, did this guy get pancaked or did, did somebody trip or was he supposed to block that guy or was somebody else supposed to block that guy? Was the play called the wrong way?

It was the quarterback that the depth of the pocket. Like I was talking about like Jared's been great in the pocket. Was the coverage good? Like there's just so much that goes into it. So I mean, it's kind of our stats are team stats basically. We should figure out a way to keep track of like number of holds that you get away with. To me, that feels like the best stat possible for an offensive lineman. Oh, I'm probably, I got to be top in the league and getting away with full starts.

I got to be. Oh, really? How do you get away with those? You just, are you slow? Full start on every play. If you full start on every play, they can't call it on every play. That's a fact. That's a good point.

They're just like, no, that's just how. Yeah, that's when the, yeah, they just think that's when the ball got snapped is just off of you. 100%. When we're on the road and you go off the head, Bob, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm dancing on the line about every single snap. That's all the reps think that you're just like that fast that you go off. You're like even faster than the, like the second the ball starts to move.

They're like, that guy's all over it. Yeah. Now that I said that, I'm probably going to get like six full starts. Oh man. That would suck. If you're ranking toughest things to block against, so this is obviously the best ones have all three, but like what is the toughest thing to block against? Speed, strength, or bendability?

I would say number one thing would, if, if they're good at timing the snap would be speed. Okay. Snap timing, snap timing is everything. That's why I try to get off on the snap. Like that's my number one, uh, advantage I think is getting off on the snap. Well, and then bendability, like, like we got a young dude right now who I've been blocking him in practice all year, James Houston, and he's been on a terry lately and a man, his bend is crazy.

And some guys just have it. Like they can just, they can just bend. They got those gummy ankles and can just bend the edge. And, uh, I was like, man, why isn't this guy, why isn't this guy playing? Like he should be playing. Like cause there'd be, you know, once or twice a week where he had to move on me, and it was a real move and he really got me. So, you know, it's speed.

If you can time the snap really well and then bendability a hundred percent. So strength, like you can block for strength. Everyone can block for strength, the NFL you're saying. It's when you get the combo of the other two things. Yeah. I mean, strength is good to have a blend with it. But I would say a lot of offensive linemen, if it's up to them, they would just eat bull rushes all day.

Yeah. Cause if you just run at me and then it's just, uh, you know, just wrestling the grizzly bear. I mean, it's, it's not easy to do, but if you know a guy's a power guy, you know what to expect. Yeah. And you can just kind of sit in the bull rush. That's a good answer. How hard is it at the end of a game or at the end of a half? When you get a big chunk of yards and you guys have to sprint down the field

and then get immediately into your stance to spike the ball to kick a field goal. Oh, that's the worst. And the quarterback will be freaking out yelling clock, clock, clock, and his voice is cracking. And, uh, man, that's the, that's the longest you're going to run. Cause if I'm running more than 10 yards, like either something really good happened or something bad happened. So yeah, I don't like that.

That's not my favorite. Similar to that. And I love asking this question. Is there a, uh, number play in a play drive where you can feel like the defense is like they're gassed. They're, they're quitting. Like, is it like if a, if a drive gets to eight, nine, 10, like, is there a spot that it's like, yeah, this is, if we get to this point, like, we'll just keep leaning on them,

leaning on them, leaning on them, and then they can't do anything. I think right when you get around like six, seven plays, you get a first down and you're grinding some runs on them. And if the same D line is on the field, because they have to chase the ball every play, like they have to run after the ball every play. I think they start getting worn down, especially if you can keep them on the field. I mean, long play drives, I mean, they, they suck as a, as an offensive player, but they're, I think they're way harder on the defense.

So I think once you start to get to six, seven, if you keep rolling and you get like, we've had drives that have been 18, 19 play drives for a touchdown and that's like, as brutal on a defense. Yeah. So I think I asked Nick Mangold that and his answer was, it's not even the plays, it's when you get to the 40, when you get to the 40, it's like, that's when the defense starts to be like, oh, fuck, like, you know, if you're saying like a regular drive starts to the 20 off kickoff or 25, whatever, like, that's when it starts to be, oh man,

like we're really getting punished here. Yeah. I mean, that's a good point because at that point you're either going to be getting in and distance for a field goal. You're going to be able to flip the field or you're going to score a touchdown. So yeah, because field position is like huge and obviously football. So I mean, yeah, because at that point they got to make a play. They, they need to get a stop right there in the 40 or they need to get a sack to knock

us out of the goal range or whatever it may be. So I would agree with that answer. Yeah. We saw at the start of the season, your coach, Dan Cable, who we love setting the tone, being like, okay, this season we're going to base this on a Metallica song, No Leaf Clover. The soothing light at the end of the tunnel might be a freight train coming your way. Has he stuck with that Metallica song or does he like switch it up week to week? Is there like a hard rock heavy metal song in the week that he bases that week's theme off of?

Are we still staying with that one? I wish there was a song week to week, but I mean, he's, he's pretty consistent and he's pretty consistent with that. He does like his, his heavy metal songs. He's talked about some tool songs and stuff and, and team meetings and stuff like that. But I would say that message is pretty consistent. Like he, like right now we're in a basically a one game season every week because we kind of dug ourselves into the hole that we, that we got in and we've been, you know,

trying to slowly climb our way out of it the past six weeks. So yeah, he's pretty consistent with that. How often does he cry? He's emotionally invested in us. I'll say that. Like, and you got to love that, man, because I mean, I've had games, I remember after the, our first win last year against Minnesota, it was like, man, this, this year I cried. I cried walking off the field just cause I'm like, you just invest so much into this,

like your time away from your family. Like now I have a child and I'm spending time away from them, like time away from friends, whatever it may be, you sacrifice so much. And so it means a lot to you. So yeah, I mean, he, he is emotionally invested in it. And you can tell that he wishes he could still be like, be out there playing with us. Like as do a lot of us, which is like, do staley, do staley is intense, man. And you love it.

You love it as a player. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we saw him, Dan was doing up downs at the start of training camp this year. Is he still working out with you guys? I'm sure he works out pretty early in the day. But I mean, his, he looks good, man. I think he wears some tighter shirts on purpose.

That's going to be me when I retire. You've got the delts, the shoulders. Like, yeah, he looks good, man. He does. All right. So I have one last question. It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase.

Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers. The joggers are phenomenal. 20% off rowback.com use promo code take. This has been awesome, Taylor. We really appreciate it. The last question I have is urban Meyer, sad pizza. You were on the team, the sad pizza happened. What was the locker room talking about after where they're like, oh man,

should we, should we buy coach like a get well soon card? Should we give him a hug? Like, man, he can't be eating this sad pizza in a golf cart. Like what, what, what was the response to the sad pizza? Which is one of my favorite pictures of all time. I think we were all having sad pizza, man. No, but he was having the saddest pizza. No, come on.

Yeah, man. He, uh, when we, when we would lose the few times we would lose, man, that would, it would shake him to his core, man. Like he would be walking around and you could tell he was just like in another space, like he hated losing so much, like walking around the building. And, uh, us as players is like, man, we got, we got to pull him out of it. Cause like we got a game this week. Like we got, we got to go play again.

So I mean, he was just, he was just like an ultimate. Like he just loved winning so much. And it would just shake him to his core because he'd be different around the building. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Well, we're rooting for you, man.

We, we are one more thing for you guys. Frank Ragnar wanted you to, uh, ask me about a appendicitis. Oh, tell me about your appendicitis. And that was my next question. Also the robot question. I'm wearing their joggers right now. This question is presented by Roback. Tell me about the appendicitis.

And wait, Frank is on the Broncos now, right? No, that's Graham Glasgow. Oh, Graham Glasgow. Graham Glasgow. Yeah, Graham Glasgow. Yeah. We saw Graham at, uh, training camp out in Denver. But, but your appendicitis.

I was actually very curious to hear about that. Yeah. Thanks. Great question. I'm glad Frank was able to get to you on that. I've been telling Frank to leak this to the media for years and he never did it. So he said he was going to tell you guys to ask me about it. So shout out to Frank for telling you guys.

Yeah. I've been, I've actually, I had it in my notes. Frank Ragnows appendicitis. I did. Please talk about it. I actually asked you about it, but it was earlier and we were accidentally on mute. So you didn't hear it. Yeah.

Cause I've been thinking like every time I watched the lines, I'm like, did Frank have appendicitis? Unfortunately, Frank did not have appendicitis. All right. I'm going to take you on a little story. So in 2020, at the end of training camp, I had just signed my contract extension. We were playing the bears week one and the Friday before the game, I woke up in the middle of the night sweating, shivering.

My stomach hurts so bad. And I was like, I don't know what's going on. Like am I constipated? Like did I have too much Jets pizza? So I just felt terrible, man. I was just sweating, going crazy, like shivering. I was just sitting in the shower and then I was like, I can't tell anybody about this.

I just signed a contract extension. Like I have to play. Like I got to play. So I just like dealt with it, played in the game on Sunday. And then I told the team Wednesday, I'm like, hey, I don't feel like something's going on with my stomach or my side or something like that. So they had me go get like a CAT scan or something like that. And they're like, oh yeah, you have appendicitis.

Like you've, you've had it for a week. Like you should have told us this sooner. And then I was like, well, I can't not play. Like I just signed a contract extension. Like I can't be the guy that signs a contract and not play. So they put me on antibiotics that like I basically had appendicitis for the first month of the season and the antibiotics made it go away. It was kind of, it's kind of crazy.

Wait, wait, do you still have your appendix? Yeah, I didn't get it taken out. I just took antibiotics. You just willed your way out of appendicitis. I thought I was constipated and I was like, I can't tell the like, I just like, what is going on? Like my stomach's killing me. You shout out, you shout out your appendix.

Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Wait, so was this, was this when Khalil Mack bullied you? No, no, no, no. Oh, he bullied you later in the year. No, no, no, no. This was, that was like two years before that was. No, he bullied you in 2020.

That's, I, so it might have been, oh, he bullied you a lot. So that's fine. But he might have bullied a man who had appendicitis. Is it possible for you to get it again? Or is your appendix like fully healed because you got through it? No, if I get it again, I have to get it taken out. That's, that's basically what I was told. So you're just living, you're a ticking time bomb.

You got that dog in you. Yeah, man. Just built different, you know. That's crazy. This is what I did. That's insane that we were able to like that, that our journalist instinct was able to bring this up and find out about this. To all the listeners out there, if you have appendicitis,

you should probably go to a hospital though and get your appendix taken out. No, no. I disagree. You don't. Antibiotics and keep playing. Just, you should play, you have two options. One, you either start against the Chicago Bears. And get bullied by Khalil back.

Or two, you get your appendix out. It's one, one or the other. Man, we got, I don't know. We got the Bears number recently. So I don't know. Oh yeah, they stink. Yeah. Okay.

Cool. They stink. That's not cool. Yeah. I mean, cool. They stink. You said it. Yeah.

No, I know. They stink. They, they, they stink. I wish there was antibiotics for the Bears. They stink. I'm sorry, man. Yeah. If I could give you a hug, I would.

But yeah, so, so appendicitis, you played with it. What a beast. What a beast. You actually, you beat evolution. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, you know, it took Frank like three years to get this out, but I'm glad he finally did.

So, you know, I'm going to say it like hearing this story. I think now you're a Hall of Famer because you can't really tell the story of football without the story of, of Taylor Decker's appendicitis. It's true. Go jack it incoming. Oh man. Well, Taylor, thank you, man.

We are rooting for you. We are. We appreciate you coming on, man. And if it comes down to it, I've already said that I'll, I'll sacrifice the commanders and the playoffs for the Lions. If that's what it means. Yeah. Man, I don't know how the whole algorithm works out.

I don't, because I mean, we have the tiebreaker against, I don't know how that shit works out. You're sniffing around right now. You, you're not out. Like you said, it's week by week. Take care of your business and it could happen. And that's what I'm really rooting for. Yeah.

Yeah, man. It's going to be a fun last four weeks of the season. And shout out you, by the way, for anyone, any AWLs who are playing in the NFL right now are listening. It's always the best when we have people come on the show that know the show. So we appreciate you reaching out and anyone else trying to think who is Dak, Dak, you should probably reach out and come back on because you know, you listen every time.

Big time AWL. Oh, you know, there's a ton of listeners. You know it. Oh, yeah. If any, if any officials listen, if any referees listen, you got to keep it in house. You can't, you can't call them on false cards. Don't beat, listen, this was a trust tree.

Be cool. Be cool. This is a trust tree. This is going to suck if you get any false. Yes. Sunday. I'm going to blame myself so bad. Yeah.

If I do, I'm going to be waiting for the blog. I'll read it. Yes. Yes. All right, man. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Taylor Decker is brought to you by our great friends over at Skrill.

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It is Kentucky quarterback Will Levis who is about to be in the NFL draft. Big time AWL, long time listener. We're a fan of his. He's a fan of ours. We hope he has great success in the NFL. We're going to do one question with a quarterback in person. First time we've ever done one question in person.

So Will, my question is, Graham Mertz is going to Kentucky. Can you give him some recommendations on where to eat and also how to play good football? Because I would like to see him be successful. That's a good question. Yeah. Is this confirmed?

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed. I haven't seen any news about that. So that's news to me. Pretty sure. All right. So if Graham Mertz were going to Kentucky, where would he eat and how would he play good football? That's two questions.

Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me on again. It's really cool to be referred to as a recurring guest. Yeah. Because I've heard so many other people then referred to as. So that's really cool. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely not a shortage of good food in Lexington.

I'd first say from a steakhouse, for steakhouses, I'd go to Malone's. That's where I went every Sunday with my offensive line. Not Jeff Ruby's. I was going to say Jeff Ruby's after that. I think I'm a little bit biased in that I did have a deal with Malone's. Bring the old line up.

Fuck Jeff Ruby. Nope, not fuck Jeff Ruby. I'm a big friend of Jeff Ruby as well, and he's got an excellent restaurant. But Malone's and Jeff Ruby's can't go wrong with either of those steakhouses. Big fan of Carson's downtown, good brunch Southern style place.

You're always going to get a good meal there. And for breakfast, you got to go to Josie's in a Chevy Chase Plaza. We go there almost every Sunday after games with me and my family when we go. So he's definitely not going to have a problem having success there. I'm aware of his game.

I know him well. I'm familiar with the game young man. Sorry. I'm familiar with your game young man. Yeah, familiar with the game young man. But I've talked to him a little bit recently just to kind of give him some inside look at what Kentucky football looks like.

And he seems to like it as I think any quarterback in the country should. Okay, good. Good answer. Also just a cheat code, like if you just talk about food places in a city, everyone's going to be like, that's awesome. He likes that place.

That was the first thing I talked about with him. I was like, listen, I came from Penn State, which quite frankly does not have any good food. And that was a big kind of knock on it. And coming to Kentucky was a rude change of pace. Yeah, Max hates you right now. Max hates every guest. Because we've been on a streak recently

of guests just hating on the state of Pennsylvania. Yeah. I mean, Penn State just doesn't have great food. That's that's that's that's not a question. But I just would like to say it's a good thing that you said that you take your offensive line places to eat. I think that's good. That's a good trap stock up.

I will. I will say that I got inspired by Kenny Pickett. I think he was the first guy that announced to do something like that. And I was like, that's really cool. Yeah. It's my first year starting. Hopefully I can get something similar happening.

And so props to Kenny. I know he's also a recurring guest. Yes, yes. Love it. Pretty good friend of mine. So thank you. Take care of the guys up front. They'll take care of you.

Also, I want to retract you. Fuck Jeff Ruby because I actually met him. He's a really nice guy. OK. My question is you're a big male boy. Love the male. Yep. I'm a big male boy, too.

I think we're all in this room. Oh, yeah. Fans of the mayonnaise. Love the male. What's your favorite thing to put mayonnaise on? That's a good question. I'm probably going to have to go with any kind of club or deli sandwich.

I think you can't have one of those sandwiches that have some mayo on it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to give out any free sponsorships, but I'm a big Hellman's guy. Not a believer in the miracle whip. OK. But no free sponsorships, yeah.

Yep. You know, just like any kind of regular mayo on a classic club like turkey, bacon, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo, can't go wrong with that. Now you talk my language. People that are anti-mayo, I think they're idiots. They're just, they're doing a performance out here. Try eating a dry sandwich.

Yeah. And then get back to me. Losers. Also, fun little holiday treat. Do a little mayo nog. Just mayonnaise and whiskey. That's it. Give it a shot.

Mayo coffee. I don't know if I'll be trying that. No, give it a shot. Give it a shot. I think you'll like it. Is it a mayo coffee? Yeah, you drink mayo coffee. I can't ask a question.

You drink mayo coffee. I did. If I were in your position, I would not be looking down my nose at mayo nog. Yeah, so that's a fair point. I might have to give it a shot. Or mayo mac. It's just macaroni and mayonnaise.

Yeah. Winter treat for the whole family. No cheese, just macaroni. I mean, just mayo. You bake it up real nice. You won't even miss the cheese, trust me. All right, Billy, I love when a quarterback comes in like you will and like Billy just sizes you up

and is like, oh, this could have been me. You did get a little close to me, so let me down a little bit. All right, Billy, go ahead. All right, so Kool-Aid McKinstry, Jail and Hyatt. They all got NIL deals, linked their names. I know it's pronounced differently, but how come we didn't get a Will Levi's? Unreal.

Oh! I tweeted at him and everything. I tried my best. I tried to make it happen. That's crazy. Just never, never, nothing ever came about it. I mean, I'm not going to hold it against him if they want to do something at the next level,

but I feel like it just makes sense. I had friends call me blue jeans. I mean, I, Levi's, Levis, people pronounce my last name like Levi's all the time because of the name connection, but it just makes sense, you know? I mean, I feel like they'd be crazy to not make it happen. I'm also a Levi's wearer. I mean, I only have a couple pairs of jeans

and they're like both pair, they're Levi's. So, I mean, it makes sense. And Levi's, if you're listening, hit me up. Yeah, or Billy, I'm talking to Billy about this. Sorry, yeah. He could change his last name to Mugsy. Mugsy, yeah. Will Mugsy.

Mugsy would hook him up. Yeah. I guarantee. Yeah. Superior jeans. Yeah. Mugsy, get the clutch. Careful, whenever Billy starts talking about superior jeans,

that's usually the time when you have to cut them off. All right. Jake? Yeah. Hey, Will. Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast. You're a notable AWL. It's always cool when we see the athletes we're talking about

listen to us. So, my question is, when was the last time at F at all, you listened to part of my take on a game day? Game day? I watched, I lit, I swear. I was bad at text Big Cat before it, but it wasn't my last game. But the Georgia game, I was listening to the episode from that Friday on the field as well as warming up.

Hell, yes. And I don't, I'm not like a pregame kind of like superstition type of guy. Like sometimes I listen to music, but usually I'm caught up at that point. Usually I'd listen to the Friday episode and I hadn't finished it. So I was like, all right, well, I mean, I have no other choice now.

So, yeah, I have done that. And I feel like not many other guys are listening to podcasts pregame. I like that because you were like, before I played Georgia, I got a double check to make sure Hank, in fact, did not get the lottery ball. Correct. Yep, correct.

I was going to say, before taking on the number one team in the country, that's the latest thing on your mind. Yeah, it's just non football life. Failed yet again, huh? That's one of the cooler promos. We'll let you do it. Oh, no, I'm saying the promo things you guys have done recently with having a fan compete as well.

Yes, yes, yes. And if they get it before Hank, you guys can, that's going to be awesome to see how that plays out. We'll do one with you. Yes, please. Because Hank's not even in here, so it'll be great. I feel like if you listened to the Dungeons and Dragons episode before a game, that would get me really pumped.

Yeah, I've listened. She knows a little bit about Tim. So I mean, he's one of our favorite people in the entire world. Absolutely. All right, Max. I actually do have a question. I normally get texted questions. When you were at Penn State quarterback room with Sean Clifford,

what was it like when you just knew you were better than him? I mean, I obviously always thought that with the confidence that I have. And I feel like every quarterback's got to have that kind of mindset if they want to be successful. But I mean, it was tough, man. It's tough to be the one position other than kicker and punter and long snapper that is, I think, if I'm, yeah, that no one else plays. You know, no one else is rotating.

There's only one person on the field at one time. And even if you're just the hair behind the guy that's starting, you're not going to get reps unless the guy gets hurt or to blow out whatever. So I mean, it was a tough situation. I mean, I just kind of had to put my head down and just keep working. And then when the kind of opportunity and realization came that transferring would probably be the best opportunity for me, then I just kind of went with my gut and went there.

But Sean and I are excellent friends. He, I declared or I just announced, I declared yesterday, he was one of the first people to hit me up and say, congrats and everything. And we love each other. And I wish him the best and everything that he's doing. And he wishes me the best as well. Shit, I didn't text you. Good question, Max.

But I mean, I knew you were going to declare. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think I was going to declare. I didn't know if I was going to play in the bowl game or not. Oh, okay. All right. Wait, congrats.

Yeah, congrats. Congrats on declaring. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Declaring. Fully declared. So it's going to be a big story.

So let's get in front of it. It means be more obvious you're reading your book. So it's going to be a good story. Wait, just put the camera on yourself. Yeah. Memes, be a little natural here. There we go. Ask it however you would want to ask it.

Okay. What's your hand size? Okay. There we go. Yeah, that is going to be a big story. Yeah. They're big. I haven't, do you guys have a ruler in here actually?

We can use the iPhone measurement tool. Yeah, I do know I have big hands. I think it's anywhere between 10 and a quarter and 10 and a half. Whoa. So I knew that I would have had, I think, one of the bigger hands in the draft class last year. All right. We're doing this live on air.

This is going to be, please. Hey, but don't you stretch it. You get to put it on the, there we go, there we go. So this is, so when they report this after the combine, just please credit part of my take because we had it first. Will Leviss's hand size. PFT is doing the calculations. All right.

We got official measurement. Official measurement. Here it comes. 10 and a half. They're huge. Whoa. Those are fucking massive. And trust me, my phone sometimes makes things like not as long as you would think

when you measure them. So like, it's a legit 10 and a half. Billy just looked up at his hands. He's like, yeah, I'm about that. I got 10s. I got 10s. Do you? Yeah, that's actually not that good.

Okay. All right. 10 and a half is like, okay. So he takes his office alignment out to dinners and he's got big hands. We're like half. Mike's mail. Loves mail. Now we're 75% of the way to like draftwillleviss.com.

Yes. Oh, it might happen. It might happen. All right. So Will, you have one question for us. Oh, I do. I should have known that this was a possibility. But anything could just be a thought starter.

No, no, no. I would say. If you guys had to kick someone off of a podcast in the room, who would it be? Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy. That was the obvious answer. Good question. I'd like to kick one down my draft. Yeah, you're going to get dinged in Billy's quarterback bracket now.

His quarterback bracket is influential. There was a week in time where his quarterback bracket actually looked correct, where Sam Elinger started and Trevor Lawrence was struggling. So that will be his quarterback bracket. I'm excited for the excuse. You may be made a very powerful enemy. You set us up though. Like, come on, you knew.

All right. So you want to do numbers? Yes, please. I'll go 17. I was literally going to say 17. Oh, you go 17. You go 17. Is this official?

Yeah, this is official. OK. But it's not here. Hank's not here. It doesn't mean it doesn't count for him. But where is Hank? So we're not including Sebastian. Will, you get 17.

I'm going to get 29. OK. 18. OK. 20. Three for memes. Billy, you have 69. I will do, what was your number?

17. No, in college? Seven. It was 17. My freshman year and then seven the last four years. I'll do seven. All right. If you got 17, well, this would be something else.

I hope it's 17. 69. No. Where's that? 68. 68. 68. 68.

Has it 68 won recently, Jake? 68. Hank never would have gotten it. Just so everyone knows. Yeah. Hank never would have gotten this one. October 23rd. OK.

That's pretty recent. Yeah, that's pretty recent. Sixth time. Yeah. All right. Well, Will, thank you. One question with the quarterback. We're rooting for you.

And you're going to, I mean, you're a recurring guest. So you have to come back on when you get drafted. And yeah, best of luck, man. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Unfortunately, life does not come with a user manual. So when it's not working for you, it's normal to feel stuck.

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Okay, let's wrap up. We got guys on chicks. We'll have Hank join on the Zoom for the ping-pong ball. Wouldn't that be bittersweet if he won while he wasn't even here? There's no way he's going to believe it. I'm actually legitimately rooting for him this time. It'd be incredible. Because it would be so great.

And let's just say if he wins, yeah. Okay, he'll be great. He's also going to, if he does win, because he does have a fever right now, he's going to fall asleep and then wake up later and not know if he actually won or not. He's going to be like Grandpa Joe. Yeah.

Like the Jocobat three. Jump out of bed. People are going to be like, are they fucking with us? Are they doing Grandpa Joe references, seeing how many they can get in here? It's like the fourth time we said his name. Well, it's Hank. That's what they're calling him.

He's Grandpa Joe. GJ. Yeah, GJ. GJ Lockwood. GJ is actually great. Like, I think it's a name that's never been used before, but it sounds like it could be like a grandpa's name. Yeah.

Or like an uncle. GJ. Yeah. Oh, that's my GJ. Yeah. All right, memes. Take it away. Little enthusiasm.

This one's for father. Whoa. There we go, memes. I just had a baby. Any helpful tips to survive the first few weeks slash months of parenthood? Uh, yeah. Figure it out yourself, dude.

I know. People always ask for tips. And it's like, I hate, I hate the parenting tips. I think that it's like the weirdest thing to tell someone else how to parent. Uh, yeah. The first few months are a bear. I actually have a, I guess I'll say it right now.

It's going to be my firefest, but my son is three and a half. And he, um, he is now decided when he wants to get up every morning. And let me tell you something. There is no scare in the world. Like being dead asleep at 5 30 in the morning and having a three year and a half year old just tap your forehead.

Yeah. Because that's happened two mornings in a row now where he just is literally like six inches from my face. And he's just like, dad, I'm ready to get up. I'm just like, what the fuck, dude? Go back to bed. You know, you know what irritates me is, um, people that say like, there's no book that you get

when you raise a kid. There's no book about parenting. There's millions of there's so many. That's like one of the biggest types of book. And then you read it all and then you don't do any of it because you just figured out yourself. They don't give you a book. It is, it is kind of crazy to think that when you leave a hospital,

they just hand you a baby and they say, here you go. And then now that it's like, that's your baby. I tell people this, the two pieces of advice I give them is don't take anyone's advice because it's bullshit. And they're just going to try to shame you and being like parenting is the hardest thing and the worst thing. It is hard, but it's the best thing.

And the second is there will be a moment when you get home, that the most panic you've ever had in your entire life will wash over you and being like, oh my God, like there's no expert around. Now there's no person who's supposed to be, I am the person who is supposed to be keeping this thing alive. That will be a very anxious panic inducing moment and then it will pass.

The thing you have in that room next to you, yeah, you're responsible for it, for its entire life. It needs you for everything. I've raised a dog, so I pretty much understand exactly what it's like. Yeah, exactly. Hey, PMT fellows, my husband listens to your podcast while showering and every time before he hops in the shower, he says, about to go shower with the boys.

How do I get him to stop saying? No, like there's nothing more masculine than showering with a bunch of dudes. It's like after football, you know? Right back in the shower. Can you, can you respond to this person and get this guy's name? I want to, I want to, at the beginning of one episode,

be like, hey, Ryan, make sure you fucking clean that ass cheek, bro. Some dingleberries in there, shower with the boys. Ryan, looks like it's hanging low and lazy, my guy. We should do a podcast. You've been working out, Ryan? Well, we're showering once. You've been working out?

Yeah. I mean, like there's no, there's no better, more like cohesive team building environment than in the locker room, right? Yeah, right. Showering with the boys. It's just locker room talk. Hey, Ryan, suck my dick.

Hey, Ryan, one more tug on that thing and you're going to have to finish it off, buddy. Yeah. You got to make a decision here. Are you really jerking off in the shower or not? Three times just playing with yourself, Ryan. Oh, that's the other thing. My son just washes me shower.

That's cool too. He's just like, he's like, I want to go with you. And then I just stand there and he's just looking at me. He's like, you're peeing. Like, yeah, taking a shower, dude. It's fun. It's fun. It's just bonding shit.

Hey, PMT, more of a curiosity than a problem. But I'm wondering why my boyfriend always has his hands in his pants when he's laying down or relaxing. If it's due to his hands being cold, I just feel like there are a lot of other places you could put them to be warm. When I ask him, he tells me he's always done it and he's not going to stop.

Yeah. Is this a normal guy thing? What's the purpose? I think it is a guy thing. It is a guy thing. I don't really understand from an evolutionary standpoint why every guy does this. I think just to check to make sure it's still there.

Yeah. It's also just fun to just hold it sometimes. Yeah. Like, I don't know. It's just like, I don't even, I would say half the time I have my hands on my pants. If someone walked in, it was like, you have your hands on your pants.

I was like, what? I do. Oh, shit. Like, I don't even, it's like breathing. Yeah. Just, well, also because it's itchy a lot. You got like skin. You got to get that checked out.

No, I'm talking about, you're nutsack sticking to the side of your leg. Yeah, sometimes you got to do the pinch and roll move. Yeah. Things, you have to make a lot of adjustments on the go. There is one person on our podcast who's a big hands down the pants guy or adjusting guy. It's Max.

Max, you are, maybe you're the most qualified person. Should we just say it out loud? Like, Max, you touch your genitals a lot. I do. That's been a huge problem with me my whole life. Have you ever done it in like a professional situation? I don't know. Probably.

I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah. Everyone I've been across has always given me. It's a guy thing. Yeah. It's comfortable. It is. If you're laying down on the couch, your hand, the hand,

you're having a better time if your hand's down. You're probably, yeah, that's true. We should test everyone else's to see who's got the most comfortable. Have you guys talked about this before? Because I always thought this would never set it. About what? About Max touching.

Oh, no. He's just a ball scratching guy. There's like a few things that you just pick up. Max touches himself. Hank always showing ass crack. Those are just the little things that we spend so much time with each other. You just pick up your little idiosyncrasies.

Like, we've all got weird stuff. I don't want you to die, but if you someday die, it will just be like, oh, man, Max would be sitting right there with his hands down his pants. I miss that guy. Yeah, it's true. It's true. See, I don't even think about it.

It's just a thing. We'll bury you with your hand down your pants. Yeah, yeah. Hi to my fave guys. Why do men get so intimidated when the mic's on? All right. When when? You got this meme.

When women actually know sports. I know more about sports, specifically football, than the majority of men I know. Oh, definitely more than Max. Anytime I start talking, they either look at me like, I'm an alien or try to dismiss me. Sorry, who was that? It looked like you're trying to dismiss me.

Yeah. They look at me like I'm an alien or try to dismiss me as if what I'm saying isn't 100% correct. Why can't they just accept that it's 2022 and women actually watch sports now? It's an insecurity thing. They'd rather get mad at you for knowing more about ball than they do,

than to have to deal with the fact that they need to up their ball knowing. It's also, we're very dumb. And the one thing that the majority of guys can fall back on is explaining to some women, not all women, because it's a lot of women know ball, but some women and some podcast producers explaining to them football.

Like it makes us feel smart when we explain things to other people. And I would say the majority of guys are not smart in anything except the sports that they obsessively watch. So it's like a safety net. But yeah, it's mostly insecurity. It does feel good though.

If a woman says to you, wait, why wasn't that past interference? And you're like, well, because the ball was tipped. Right, exactly. Got the like scrimmage. Yeah. And so the defense can hit each other at that point. Why did Tyreek Hill get to return that fumble?

It's like, well, you can return a fumble. Yeah. Like those conversations happen. You pick up a fumble. Yeah, right. Unless it's fourth down. Yeah. And there is less than two minutes left in the game.

Yeah. So, but it's, yeah, it's the very short answer is guys are assholes and insecure. Okay. That's actually the answer to every guys on chicks question. Yeah. Yeah. So, but keep knowing ball because that's fucking cool.

And it's actually a great test because you will find your future boyfriend, husband is the guy who's not insecure, who actually enjoys that, who could put his ego aside and just be a regular person. That guy's a winner. I was actually about to say I'd love to hear this person's takes. Yeah. Just like, because it's like interesting because we only

watch sports around dudes. Oh, you're like, oh, a woman knows ball. You're like studying her like she's a like an anomaly. Well, I just want to hear it takes. Yeah. It'd be funny if her boyfriend actually hated football. Are you trying to make her airtight? No, I'm just saying.

You trying to get bang? Like, realistically, I only talk sports around you guys because that's where we're watching football. Right. Like, I kind of don't want to. You know, females work here. We have, we have female co-workers. I don't work on shows.

I'm on multiple shows with females. But I'm not, I'm not. Yes, you are. You're on shows with women. But Jake's right there. Billy, do you, do you forget? We're really falling apart. Billy, do you forget what shows you're on?

Do you forget who your, who your co-workers are? When I'm on sports podcasts or sports shows. All right. So we, you should come, come sit into a college football show or a pro football show. I would love to. Yeah. She's great at her job.

You would be so intimidated, Billy. Yeah. You'd be so scared. No, I'd actually want to hear. That's right. Upon, we should do a podcast where it's just Billy trying not to be afraid around a girl. You should, you should talk to Katie Statz.

Katie Statz knows more about football than everyone in this room. I know. So she's, and she's fucking awesome at her job. So let's have a one on one. I want to see the female perspective applied to football. It's the same as the male. Just what do you think, like, what do you think

the female perspective would be on football? I'm curious to know what, like, what that means. Let's unpack that a little bit. Billy, what do you, what do you mean? Billy thinks a female perspective is literally like every sack on the quarterback should be roughing the passer. That was too hard. No, no, I, like, I'm like, I don't know.

Yeah. No, no, keep going. Everyone's got a unique perspective. Yeah. Like why, why doesn't that guy tuck in his jersey, his fashions all off? No, not that way. That's what you're thinking.

Dave, it would be the same. Yeah. Like this woman who wrote in probably knows ball just like us. It would have a regular conversation. I think what I'm trying to say. They'd probably be like those, those Dolphins uniforms look way too pretty to win in the snow and buffalo.

No, actually, what I'm just, after Labor Day, ew. Yeah. The, actually, to communicate what I'm actually trying to say is that most basic bros have the same takes. And I'd like to see if everyone says Zach Wilson's passing. You see, that's why, that's why there's non-basic bro. Got it, got it. Yeah.

It's actually good that, that your, that your takes are so bad. Some, yeah. No, I, there is the most guys on chicks, guys on chicks of all time. Okay. All right. We got one more. One more.

Hey, PMT guys. I have a question regarding my boyfriend. Major fan of you to a point. It is a little creepy, honestly. We have been together for almost two years now and we have our relationship at a very steady point. We always have one question that we can never find the answer to. So I figured I would ask for your opinion.

Has Hank ever guessed a lot of them, right? Please help me find the answer to this. Well, let's find out. Do we have them? Okay. He's here. Hank, we just finished guys on chicks. The last question was wondering if you've ever gotten the ping pong ball lottery machine

correct. Have you? No. No, I have not. You've never gotten it. No. I also had a friend who hit me up and was like, we should give you extra spins of the machine.

But every time you spin, you have to take away a vacation day. Well, that's impossible because I'm not allowed to get any. So. Oh, okay. All right. So, all right. So that idea is out. Did you also, according to Hank's policies, we have unlimited vacation days.

That's true. So. Yeah, it's true. It's just the overlords named Big Cat and PFT don't allow anyone to. The overlords, you're our boss. You are literally our boss. You're literally our boss. Oh man, he's sick.

Okay, Hank, you had an idea for this? What are you going to say? Uh, yeah, I have a proposition because I was thinking about it. I know I'm due and every. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you're not. Let Hank cook real quick. But he's not due.

I just wanted that point of order. No, you're not. No, he's trying. He's trying to like put the pressure on us right now. No, I'm not. I actually think the cat will like this. I don't want, when I win, I want to win in your guy's face. I don't want it to be when I'm sick with no voice.

Well, you're not going to win today. So what is this? What are we even talking about? Can I, can I offer my proposition? Okay, all right. Just shut it down with me out of offering. It's all, it's all based on the fact that you're due and that you're going to win today.

Lord, give me the confidence that Hank Lockwood has right now to think he's going to get the lottery machine correct on today of all days. Like if I win the, if I win the, the mega millions, I want to do it around you guys. So that's why I'm not going to win it today, Hank. That's what you just said. Yeah, maybe I'm over stuffing.

All right. Anyway, can I get to my proposition? Yeah, the guy, you know what? The guy's literally never gotten it. It might be overstepping. Yeah. This is like, this is like, if back in 2016, Big Ed had been like, you know what?

I don't want to beat the Indians because it's on the road. I'd rather win the World Series at home. Okay, go ahead, Hank. No, no, no. Proposition us. All right. This is my proposition. I will give you a number today.

It won't count. And then I want two on Friday. No. Wait, why would you give us a number that wouldn't count? No. Because imagine if it hits, how happy it is. It's not going to hit. Statistically, that's not right.

You're never going to get it. All right. Well, if it hits, you're going to be fucking pissed. Okay. I won't because it won't. It will. What's your number? 11.

11. 17. I'm taking 17. I'll take 84. Also, Jake, wait, is Jake in the room? Yeah. Of course. Jake, I need you to take your cell phone out

and take a video of the machine. I won't lie. Because I know, but I still need you to do it because I can't see it. Memes. Just change the wide to the lottery ball. Okay. 11 is Hank's number.

I have 84. I don't think it works like that. What do you have, PFT? Of course, I'm doing 17. It doesn't work like that, Hank. It doesn't? Okay. All right.

I'm taking 18. Yeah. 20. Sebastian did not submit, so we're going to go with his most recent submission of 45. All right. Memes? Yep.

I got the camera going, Hank. Memes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, three. All right. Here we go. Give me the recent all that. We wasted all that time.

Memes, it does work like that. Go back, go back. We wasted all that time on a number you're not going to get. I got it right here. Why did we even waste all that? Just listen to your 73. There we go. Hank, 73.

Is that fun for you, Hank? He tried to get us. He tried to get two on Friday. You're never going to get it. You're never going to get it, never going to get it. Never going to get it, never going to get it. He would have, it's statistically better for him for that to happen on Friday.

He's never going to really, statistics don't matter when it comes to this camp. I don't think you understand the fact that this guy is the worst of all time at picking lottery. Why do you think that would have any difference on what he would pick on Friday? No, because if he has two numbers on Friday. Billy, we could give him 100 numbers.

We've given him 300 numbers. He hasn't gotten it. He doesn't know how to do it. He literally does not know how the machine works. If Hank was smart, we should tell him just write down every number between 1 and 99 randomly. And then whatever the last number that you randomly, we're going to write down.

Wait, did we? Or, no, if Hank was really smart, he would just go sequentially from starting at 1 and go all the way up and guess every number, every single day, and he would get it eventually. As long as he doesn't miss a day. Did that happen? Did you miss a day once?

Possibly. Did we reveal or slash, did we lock in the bailout special? Where if we do 100 drawings, and if 17 is the last one, then he still wins, right? Yeah, I'll let him do that. I don't care. He's not going to win anything.

He's never going to win it. You're going to win it in the middle of August when everyone's like, oh, this is over. And you're going to be doing a big dance. I did a math, by the way. Who cares, bro? Depending on if you do one for the best of, it's seven or eight shows left.

If I lose 5K, there's no dance. Oh, no, you'll dance. I'll make you dance. I don't think so. Oh, I think so. But guess what? Again, we're wasting time. We're wasting air.

You're never going to get it. Love you, guys. You're so bad at this. Orcas will eat moose, but not humans because they're picky eaters. And that's probably the only reason why we haven't been attacked by orcas. That and also they live in the ocean.

We live on land. So do moose. Dude, moose is probably a big one. The reason why we haven't gotten into a war against fish? Dude, whales and sharks attack people all the fucking time. Yeah, all the time. You're the idiot. No, can we please keep the focus on the fact

that Hank's the idiot because he doesn't know how to pick the correct number? We should actually get an animal that has, that's predicting numbers. Oh, they'll get it in a second. And have the animal. A goldfish will get it in two seconds. Like a chicken.

Have a chicken. I'll bring in my hedgehog. Yeah, bring in your hedgehog. He'll get it, too. Does Hank smarter than a hedgehog? No. All right, fine. Are you going to do something you need less to say?