Pardon My Take - March Madness, We Recap The First 4 Days Of The Tourney, Then Talk To Jack Gohlke From Oakland And DJ Burns From NC State

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

The first 4 days of the tournament are in the books and we do our best to remember everything that happened the last 4 days including JMU beating Wisconsin, Izzo giving us a brief second of Izzo, Gonzaga going to yet another Sweet 16, how Jay Wright helped Illinois get to the Sweet 16 for the first time since 2005, Purdue being a problem, Uconn dominating and tons more (00:00:00-01:12:57). Who's back of the week including rap beefs and people mad about Caitlin Clark (01:12:57-01:25:34). We then welcome on Jack Gohlke from Oakland to talk about being an industry plant for March Madness, their wild upset of Kentucky, being in the zone and more (01:25:34-01:41:30). DJ Burns from NC State joins us to talk about his team's crazy run to the Sweet 16, vending machines, and being a big man America can root for (01:41:30-01:53:00). We finish with a preview of the Head Coach picture and numbers (01:53:00-02:01:52).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take we have March Madness Recap. What a four days we just witnessed. It's been crazy. It's going to be a loopy episode. Our brains are full of basketball. We also have Jack Goukey and DJ Burns, two of the heroes from the first four days. NC State still marching on. They beat Jack Goukey's Oakland, but he also captured the hearts of America when they took down Kentucky. Who's back the week? And it's gonna be a great show. We're gonna put it together. We've been watching nonstop basketball together. We're gonna do it and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The thrill and excitement of March Mania is here in DraftKings Sportsbook. One of America's top rated sportsbook apps is giving new customers a shot to turn five

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Yeah, to like a lot. I have not yeah, just cuz the wedding early course you get the asparagus took a couple bites of that I have that's it I've had I've had candy on candy on candy and we just watched basketball for four days straight and I feel great though I feel great. I will say this For you people listening right now I would throw this out there maybe Monday after Super Bowl and then Monday after the first week in a March Madness Two worst Mondays in the calendar year your body just craves day basketball You're just sitting there like what do I do with the rest of my life? And basically you're basically red, or no Brooks

getting out of Shawshank. And you're like, this sucks. Yeah, I want to go back to just sitting on a couch with my boys watching hoop. Yeah. If you want day ball, by the way, look at Big Cat's blog on the coach's picture. Yes. Which we can talk about a little bit in a little bit. I'm going to be up till four in the morning tonight. That's fun. That's a nice little like a wind down after a week in a ball. But yeah, it was a great time. The games weren't that competitive over the weekend. Um, well it's still a lot of basketball. Let's debate this before we go through the games and talk about all the storylines. There's the, we, we do this as sports fans. We have to say, well, this March Madness has been great or this one has sucked. I've seen both arguments.

I'm firmly in. Yeah, I wish there was less blowouts, but what this March Madness is setting up, it's actually exactly what I want. A few upsets in the first round, some shocking moments. You get a Jack Colke, you get a Yale beating Auburn, you get these weird things happening. But then you get the best 16 teams in the Sweet 16. And you have, I know it's chalky, but we have matchups that are so, so great. And I don't want to get to the Sweet 16 and have like a 13 seed who's going to lose by 20 to UConn. Yeah. 30 to UConn. We got some blue bloods in there We got a national title rematch. Yeah, you caught it San Diego state one Cinderella That's still in there is a Cinderella that we can all focus on in NC State also Not a Cinderella anymore because they just keep winning there

I think they went from Cinderella to just team of destiny like they there was a moment when NC State in that Oakland game They win it over time and I'm like why can't can't they just win it all? Yeah, they're good They're like legit good the two DJs and then Diarra They got some players who's fasting for Ramadan, which is nuts is it so they're the new Yukon Yeah, he's he has not been he's not been eating during these games. That's any they've played seven games in 12 days That's really impressive. I don't think I'd be able to watch basketball without eating. No, much less play it. Definitely not. I should I sit on that couch. It's like Pavlov's dogs. Like what are we eating today? Oh, we had lunch two minutes ago. Let's talk about dinner.

Uh, we're we've got we've got solid matchups in the next round. And also a shout out to the ACC, the ACC, what are they eight Eight and one in the tournament. The one loss being UVA in the first four. Well, the big East also undefeated. Big East undefeated as undefeated six and out. Big East probably should have put more teams in from the big East. Big East is back. Well, yeah. Yukon had Northwestern and Stetson. Yup. But yeah, it's, we got some really good matchups coming up next weekend. I'm pumped about that. I would have liked more close games maybe with the same results but more close games but all in all like yeah It was a it was a weekend. Well spent. I don't I don't be second

Guess my weekend and the fact that the very last game or second to last game was the Houston A&M Shocker that went to overtime. Yeah, that was that's a good way for me to like wash a little bit of the stink of the blowouts out of my mouth. Yeah, so the, the, um, yeah, I don't like it. The years when we get to sweet 16 and we have multiple 13, 14, 15, you know, 15 St. Peter's, that was a great story. But then you get, St. Peter's went all the way to the lead eight, correct? You get to Purdue and they lost by like 40 to UNC.

UNC by 50. Right. You get Cinderella, you get Cinderella fatigue we can we can channel all of our Cinderella energy into NC state now Which is nice. Yeah, usually when these double-digit seeds lose they lose in big fashion, right? They just completely run out of gas right so I'm very excited with this tournament. I'm excited with what we've watched Where do you want to start? Let's start on Friday. Okay. That's that we usually go on Chronological Order. That's true. Factor Fiction. Yeah, we do on the show.

Okay, so I didn't really watch much of the games because I was flying and then I was at dinner, but I did see one game. Yes. James Madison, Wisconsin. James Madison, Wisconsin. Wisconsin played like fucking ass. Jamie, you played like fucking good ass, like a really good ass. No, that was torture for me. It was a torturous game. It was, they played just horrendous. I don't think they knew what JMU was all about.

It felt like they showed up and they're like, oh yeah, we'll just win this game. Oh yeah, JMU is gonna pressure us on every possession and we'll just not be able to handle the pressure. They were not ready for the fight. The fight was brought to them. They were not ready for the fight Why are you pulling up the box score max? I was just curious. I was looking. Oh, yeah, but it sucked It sucked and I was it was torture for me. I hated every second of it as you get older It's weird because you think that these games should matter less as you get older and have perspective. But I was thinking about it because I was so mad at myself, so sad

on Friday night. And I realized that they in a weird way matter more because as you get older, your teams keep some, you know, your friendships alive and all my college friends who I'm still very good friends with with like we watch it together and we talk about it and then like to have that performance and that just disgusting. I would have rather have lost on a buzzer beater than the way that Wisconsin went out because it was so pathetic. And then it's got me questioning everything with the direction of the program and everything. So yeah, you had fun. I had torture. Yeah, I had a pretty good time. It was a great night. Wisconsin, I would say they weren't ready for the defensive pressure, but also Wisconsin would have been, I think

it would have been better if the game had been played on like Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, no, when they were on a roll in the big 10 tournament, well, then they had to take a couple of days off and they kind of reverted back. They were Jacqueline Hyde all year and what happened in the big 10 tournament just pulled me back in and I knew that was going to happen and it just, it just pulled me right back into being like, Oh, maybe this team will hit all their shots and they'll be great. And they were not. And yeah, it sucked.

AJ store was bad. Wall was not good. It was the last game. Like just sucked. Everything sucked. Yeah. We had a great game. Our big three showed up.

It was an electric atmosphere inside the Barclays. It's the loudest that it's been inside the Barclays Which when you look back at the history of teams that have played there Yeah, you had the nets for a little bit and then you have what the a 10 tournament Yeah, so yeah the biggest night in the history of the Barclays in terms of crowd noise. It was a blast What was up with the guy behind you that you told to shut the fuck up? Well, he needed to shut the fuck up. And so I told him to shut the fuck up I have a lot of practice what happened after fuck up because of you Hank. I know it was

Yeah, see that and not be on the receiving end of it. Yeah, so basically what happened was max myself My friend Brian that I went to JMU with and then Rossello met up with us. We're still put a rookie mistake He was trying to watch Vermont Duke with a Cardinals hat on with a Cardinals hat on and he saw that picture I was like just for so I didn't I didn't even ask I love them. I didn't question it I just I was like, okay Ryan sir, whatever, but he made a rookie mistake He bought tickets for the early slate Oh, no thinking he was gonna get all the games and then don't get all and then he got kicked out and then Then he had to be like, hey, is there an extra ticket? Yeah, we got you Ryan

So Ryan was watching the games with us and the guy behind us started running his mouth a little bit right after we got out to an early start cause Jamie came out pretty hot and he was like telling me to sit down, called me a C word, like the Australian C word. And, uh, and I was just like, this guy needs to shut the fuck up. And I was about seven or eight cocktails deep at the time. So I just, I let him have it. And then after I said that to him,

we reached like a mutual respect thing, where the guy was like, fair enough. And he was like, are you even a Jamie fan? I was like, yeah, I went to school there. And he didn't believe me at first. And he thought that I was wearing a suit, going there to troll all the Wisconsin people that I was sitting next to.

And so I explained to him, I went there, I liked the team. He was like, OK, OK, that's somewhat fair. And I was like, how about this? How about we both agree that whoever wins, we want the other team to beat the fuck out of Duke in the next round? He was like, OK, that's good. So we bonded.

Also, he thought Rusilo was my security guard that was with me. So he was a little bit intimidated. He was built. He was ready to roll. Yeah. Ryan was ready to rock and roll. So it was a fun night. And getting to see your team win a tournament game is, it's electric

and my hopes got up. I was thinking that we were going to come out and at least show some fight against Duke. But yeah, no, you guys suck too. We just suck way more. Yeah. It was a great Friday night. Cause that was, I actually, I did on Friday night. You had a great Friday night. I had a torture Friday night. Hank and I almost I did on Friday night that you you had a great Friday night I had a torture Friday night Hank and I almost broke up yeah good yeah

I heard about that yeah we almost we almost actually ended our relationship but you should thank me I actually should thank me big cat because you would have much rather lose on Friday night to me than to beat us and then get your shit kicked in by Duke yeah no I agree I don't think we would have Duke. Yeah. No, I agree I don't think we would have lost by 30 to Duke, but I agree. This is 38 Yeah, it sucked. I mean I bet on James Madison. I held my end of the bargain I rooted very hard for James Madison today and it was not good. Yeah, Hank and I had a we had we had a we had a Grudge battle that almost ended our relationship for good. Yeah, I don't know what else supposed to do

You know, I was I was I mean I explained it to you as many times. And it was before the game. I was just making a lighthearted comment. No, wait, wait, wait. So just to set the table here, Hank was rooting for JMU because in a sponsored ad deal, we drew JMU as our team that we had to root for. So was Hank not being a good employee? No, he was saying it like he was going to root for JMU like as hard like he was like people want to tune in to see Me and you go after each other. I was like, no, they don't you have no connection to JMU

I was like if PFT was here that would make sense Like when Max has a big game I've I've lost so much money betting on Philly sports now to riding with but to be fair You sometimes do that because that way when you know bet bet, you know, at a max. No, I bet. I bet the Eagles because I thought they were going to win the Superbowl. Yeah. I bet the Phillies cause I thought they were going to win the world series. It wasn't because I was trolling max. The Villanova one was true. But yeah, Hank, it was like, he was like, basically like I'm going to root for Jamie. Like I've been rooting for this team my whole life. And I was like, but that doesn't

make sense. Yeah. Hank was a one man house divided bumper sticker with his allegiances to JMU and also Duke and also Duke. Yeah. I actually have the idea that Hank came out the biggest loser in this whole entire squad. He didn't even get to enjoy a win. Right. Because I didn't, I didn't lose fully because I never lost to Duke. You obviously got to win. So you didn't, and then you lost Duke, but you got to win win and Hank didn't get his sponsored deal to the point where he could win money the team that he actually likes Duke played his sponsored deal and he just didn't root for Duke so everyone's like wait are you Duke fan anymore? Hank was the biggest loser. Yeah but now I can just hop back in. Okay yeah you can hop back

in and it was hard. I did think it wasn't going to matter. And then, you know, once the game started and I saw the Duke you you needs in action, I made you a little teary eyed Hank hop back in. I want you to root for. Yeah. Yeah. I like it when you were Hank. I want you to root really hard for Duke. In fact, I want you to go to their next game. Where are they playing? Oh, they're playing in Dallas. Oh, nice. Oh, that's crazy. but Hank and I did makeup it was oh it was a tweet I have a 12-hour tip I found Friday as well. I have a I didn't mean to say tip. I have a tweet here from oh, it's from Tiffany She wants to know if Hank can come to Dallas to watch his beloved Duke blue devils is that actually

No, no, yes Did she actually somebody said at Henny's and I was tagged in because it was a reply to a tweet I had the never-ending are you going to Dallas for the next Duke game eyeball emoji at Tiffany Gomez Tiffany replied? 29 minutes ago good question dot dot dot At Hinnies question mark you gotta go. Oh my god I give you permission to go if you want to go Hank you gotta go Yeah, I'll look into it. Okay, great You always ride for Duke as he sits in his purple jumpsuit

You got to go down there and fix your wall up you got it. You got a plaster walls Hank. Yeah, I might have to Yeah, but Hank and I did we ended our beef just the very next day. It was a bad night for me. I had a very, very bad time. That was, sports should not change your mood as much as they do. I mean, you had a bad time today. I had a bad time today, but again, like I'm looking back at Friday. I had a great Friday night.

I had a great Saturday. I had a stressful, the thing about today though was I was stressed out I was I was anxious before the game and then I didn't even get a single seconds worth of joy out of the game today Yeah, I went immediately from being anxious to being sad to dead. It was never we never got to cheer never got I loaded up on JMU. I didn't get money line single red. I was like, let's go You know, I had I had had the appropriate amount of time to process the debacle and torture of Friday night I would moved on we had a good Saturday Mm-hmm, and then yeah, that was there was no cheer Jamie was built to beat the Big Ten We can't hang with the ACC. Yeah, that's that's the next step for us. And now is who we lose in the portal

Don't talk. Don't. If you want to be a big cat basketball school, this is what you gotta deal with. Big cat, what did you say? What did you say? What did you say on Friday? Give the person a day. Okay, all right. I'll give you a day. Give me a day and then we'll talk portal. I'll give you a day. I'll give you a day. Then we'll talk portal. We were already talking about my coach going somewhere else earlier. I didn't bring that up. I know. I know. I said, yeah, it was not you. Yeah. But just give me a data portal sucks No, I just I I asked that because Wisconsin just started everyone just started hitting the portal It's like the worst part about college sports now is like, yeah

You lose a game and then the minute after you're just like, oh cool portal portal for everyone next year All right. Let's talk about some other games with congratulations PFT. That was You guys I mean, yeah, you took, I really was like the game started and you guys were like, we're going to play 10 times more aggressive and like fast, faster than Wisconsin and Wisconsin just looked like they had just never seen that. And it was over from that. Yeah, it was, we played some tenacious D Friday for sure. And it was, it was so fun to watch. I'm so glad I got to experience it. It's something that I never thought. Like, JMU basketball has never been a threat to do this ever.

And now we got some that we're building on. So it's a... Maybe it was Sweet 16. There's nothing like that. Second weekend. My little Grinch heart grew three times the size that day. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk some other games.

Where do we want to start? There's been all the favorites have advanced basically. Um, Oh, we could start with, uh, North Carolina doing the, the, the narrative bowl of Tom is, Oh, in March we've had about 10 minutes of, he did it again. He's done it again. Tom iszzo, January, February Izzo. And then North Carolina happened because we all collectively forgot that all North Carolina does is beat Tom Izzo in Michigan State in March. Michigan State is 0 and 6 in the tournament against North Carolina. And it was like a 28 20 game.

I read a story where essentially it was 2820 game Michigan State and Hubert Davis instead of calling a play during the media timeout just bitched out everyone in the love that in the huddle was like you guys don't want this and then they finished the half 41 30 and it was or 31 40 31 and it was just over from there yeah there were like five different teams this weekend that had these types of games where it's like okay if they play like this they're gonna win the title North Carolina had a games where it's like okay if they play like this they're gonna win the title. North Carolina had a half where it's like they're gonna win the national championship. And I'll say

for the first time maybe it is over for Izzo because North Carolina that second half they just ran the same play over and over and Michigan State just never stopped it. Yeah. They just kept on running the same screen down low with Baycott and then they would just hit a three or Baycott would go one on one and that was it. Yeah. That was it. It's always been funny to me that it's January, February, Izzo, April when you would ideally

like your coach to be January, February, March, Izzo. Yes. Because that's when you really have to. Yeah, you need to win the fight. Yeah. But he is March, but he got that one win got we got fooled for a second. Yeah. Yeah, the first half was pretty good for Michigan State. But I North Carolina looks like when they're playing at their best. They are

one of the five teams that are unbeatable. Yeah, they're very good. All right. Other games from Saturday, Arizona is I I was rooting for Dayton. I wanted to I wanted that was the type of team that I wanted to make it but north but Arizona, they're looking like it. Like I look at the bracket right now and I don't know, 10 out of the 16, I could conceivably see winning it all. They're also fun when they're running. When you're getting up and down the court,

they're one of the finest teams to watch. And then hand up, I owe Clemson an apology. I was not familiar with their game. Oh yeah, that's Sunday, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hopping to Sunday, yeah, Clemson. Clemson, I'm just saying like familiar with their game. Oh yeah, that's Sunday. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hopping to Sunday. Yeah. Clemson. Clemson. I'm just saying like, They're good.

I think. All of a sudden. I think when they announced the bracket, I believe we said Clemson, they stink. They shouldn't be in here. Correct. I would like to retract that statement. Clemson does not stink. Retroactively, I never said that.

We forgot that they played a Mountain West team in the first game, which New Mexico looked like they, uh, I don't know what they, they just didn't, I don't know if they like practice before or they didn't even sleep before, but that was one of the worst first round showings for a team that people were picking. They were favored in that game. They got absolutely demolished by Clemson. Yeah. And I was high on, on New Mexico too. So we, I completely botched that one. Yes. That's March baby. I have a team for you Max Do you hear about this story? I have a team for you to root for because you don't have a team in the tournament Okay, that team is

Illinois and their first sweet sweet 16 since 2005 which is a crazy stat is Illinois Yeah, historically has been good, but it has been a very rough stretch for them. Brad Underwood has been knocking at that door. I think he's an awesome coach. I actually have like one of my only non-old takes exposed when they hired him. I was like Brad Underwood is an awesome coach. They're going to win with him. I know where this is going. Illinois is in the Sweet 16 since the first time in 2005. There was a story out there that Brad Underwood was trying to. So the last couple of years they've had a, a, a team that has not really fit the modern basketball. So they have big man, a guard, his whole goal was we got to find more wings. We got to find

more guys that are dynamic with the ball. His entire starting fives over six, six, Terrence Shannon is insane. He's got over 30 30 and a half points a game in the last six games. What are you averaging? And they also have a guy to mask who's so, so good. And the story goes, they lost the game early in the season. Jay Wright was calling the game. Brad Underwood had a meeting with Jay right after the game. They became friends and Jay Wright was like hey this guy to mask why don't you just do booty ball with him mmm classic Villanova booty ball where you just fucking let him get the ball ISO and he brought any brings people down in the post like what Jalen Brunson

used to do like all those guys used to do and that has basically changed the course of their season and that's how they run their offense and they're a lot more dynamic now. It opens up everything for Terrence Shannon. Jay Wright has helped coach Illinois to the first sweet 16 since 2005. Max. Yeah, no, that's great. I wish he did more for Villanova. I thought he'd be more excited about this. You wish he had told that to Kyle Neptune. Correct. Jay Wright is such a good coach. He's helping Illinois break their 19 year streak of not getting the sweet 16. Yeah, no, I saw that Villanova Twitter. Wasn't I mean, I'm happy. I'm happy. Is he a trader? My eyes lit up when I saw it back on Illinois. Max, what if, what if he goes

to Kentucky? He's not going to Kentucky. Booty ball, Max. Although I do have a trade in place for the rights to Jay Wright for John Calabari. Oh, okay. Okay. You would accept that? Well, yeah, because he's not going to come back. So I'll give up the rights to get to get. Do you have his rights? You want John Cal? Yes, we have the rights. Huh? You want John Cal? Yeah, 100% Italian. He would be good in the big East. Yeah. Keep the keep the big East Italian. Yeah, I thought you'd be I thought thought you'd be on a giant, on a red hat with giant letters. Keep the big East Italian. I thought you'd be more excited about this revelation that booty ball has been brought to Illinois by J via J right. No. Okay. Now also brought

to Illinois via your other team, Penn state, cause that was part of it was Brad Underwood. Son is on the coaching staff and he's like,alen Pickett from Penn State last year did booty ball to us three times beat us three times booty ball can beat anyone No, yeah booty ball is great. I've seen a lot of guards Do the booty ball and it's always fun to watch Booty ball is great. Yeah, because you just see these guards just Someone guards don't know how to defend it it right and they and Jalen Brunson is like is 100% when he goes to booty ball he could literally do that every possession when he was at Nova it was awesome and then we just had shooters everywhere so he would

just kick out and would be open it was booty ball easy bucket for Brunson or kick out wide open did he call it booty ball when he was at Villanova I I don't think I think I think booty ball was coach Underwood's son yeah was calling it booty ball when he was at Villanova? I I don't think I think I think booty ball was Coach Underwood's son was calling it booty ball after they got torched by Jalen Pickett at Penn State last year It sounds so much better when it's called booty ball. It's great. She's been like, what are we gonna run today? Booty ball. Yeah use your ass in Damascus awesome at booty ball So Illinois like that is a very big story the fact they broke through and they have a team that could absolutely beat anyone Especially with the way Terrence Shands, the other weird story I had from Saturday was, uh, Bill Self. Yeah. After losing to Gonzaga said for the last month, I've been

thinking about next season. So I was, I was thinking about, I actually weirdly like people were roasting him and in my initial inclination was to roast him too. But Bill Self, the one thing that you can say about Bill Self is he's actually like probably too honest in his press conferences and too honest with like the assessment of his team. He essentially was like, we've been hurt and we are going to bring back a lot of starters next year. And when I bring back starters, I usually have success.

And yeah, I hated here. Or was he saying that, who's the guard that's not playing McCullers Yeah that McCullers like when he was out when we found out that he was gonna be out for a long time He was like, well our seasons over. Yeah, just at that point He's like I knew it and then Hunter Dickinson getting his shoulder torn off Yeah, but he is a very honest coach Remember there was a couple years ago when they lost to USC and he's like I wish Drake had beaten USC Yeah, I knew that USC was gonna beat us. He's very honest except for the hair. Although it's actually you know what?

So we've talked about Bill Self's hair a lot on the show of the course of the years. I About a year ago. I started to turn on it and I'm thinking that it might be real hair Yeah, but then you see one shot. I saw one shot yesterday I was like no because I can spot a rug and I don't think it's a rug. I've got a great great like Astro turn Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like a lot of people were saying he's got a wig beforehand No, I think I think he got a good a good surgery done. He got ravaged. Yeah, he got ravaged Yeah, ravaged. Take that ravage. But yeah Bill self people were criticizing for that quote because Gonzaga absolutely torched him and Mark for you deserves our credit nine

absolutely torched him and Mark for you deserves our credit nine straight sweet 16s is insane. It's hard to win a game in the tournament and he's gone. He's won at least two nine straight years. He's also, uh, the stat is 24 straight March madnesses, 15 straight first round wins, nine straight sweet 16s. Yeah. Anyone would sign up for them. Yeah. He doesn't have a title, but you're basically saying to your fans, I will make sure that you guys have that extra week of happiness every single week of happiness is huge. And not only did they beat Kansas, they destroyed, destroyed them, played perfect basketball in the shit pumping. Yeah, that was a great game. Uh, what other things from Saturday? I mean, I was another, another fun stat to keep your eye on here is the Tennessee-Texas game.

Tennessee made that a lot closer than it had to be because they couldn't shoot worth a goddamn. And against Texas, Texas had 19 points in the first half against them. Colorado State played Texas the game before. Colorado State had how many points in the first half? Was it 12? 11. 11 points in the first half? 11. Who did Colorado State had how many points the first half was it 12 11 11 points

in the first half 11 who did Colorado State play before that Virginia UVA who had 14 points yeah first half so it's like we said that Colorado State caught UVA they caught what we say cavid 19 yeah Texas also caught UVA from Colorado State. Yes. So now is Tennessee going to get UVA'd against Creighton in the next round? Possibly. In the first half. I actually think that if you're a Tennessee fan,

that was the perfect way to win because it was the way you always lose. Like that game, they just went so cold shooting, but their defense is so much better this year. And they like their offense is a lot better than it was last year, but their defense, they could rely on their defense when their shooting was bad. And that was a game that Tennessee always loses. And Rick Barnes always loses where it's like you're up double digits in the second half. And what just happened? We just lost this game. They survived the what just happened.

We just lost this game. And you have what just happened, we just lost this game. And you have to do that to win like, you can not everyone's going to be like Yukon last year where they, you know, beat everyone by double digits. If you win a tight national title, if you look at every national champion, there's a couple games mixed in there where you didn't have your best stuff and you just found a way to do it. This could be that game for Tennessee. Yeah, they're scored connect. He sucked. He was so bad, so bad, so bad, finally made a way to do it. This could be that game for Tennessee. Yeah, they're scored connect.

He sucked. He was so bad. So bad. So bad. Finally made a three down the stretch, but for most of the game he couldn't score. They had to rely on a do and in their defense. Yeah. Yeah.

A do and Viscovi. Yeah. On defense. They're they're legit. So I'm looking forward to that Creighton, Tennessee game. Yeah. And then we had the Oregon Creighton game, which was one of the most electric, uh, weird games because you had Creighton miss every wide open shot and Oregon try to beat a team with two guys, Cousinard and Dante.

They took every single shot essentially down the stretch and, uh, double overtime just ran out of gas. Yeah. It felt like Oregon was the better team for most of the game. They were and they just, and then it just kept extending until they ran out of gas until the second overtime Yeah, but yeah, yeah, they tried to win with two guys I've never seen anything like it like who's in our death three hit at the end of the what is it regular? No second first overtime was just an insane shot to hit and they just every single time down the floor is like one of

These two guys has to do it. Otherwise were fucked and creating just outlasted. Pick East 6 and 0. 6 and 0. 6 and 0. All right. Let's talk some Sunday games. Let me do a quick ad. We'll talk some Sunday games and then a little preview of what we got coming up. If you're trying to go to a game, Hank in Dallas, game time, game time.

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But that would do played a perfect game. Do couldn't miss. They could have missed. McCain was on fire. It was it was a blowout. There was there's no team that can beat Duke if they shoot that well. Yeah.

The thing is, they're probably not going to shoot that well in every other game. But yeah, it was it was just it was a blowout from start to finish. There was no time at no point during that game. Did I feel optimistic? No, no, it really it actually is crazy to say that but it's a fact I the only thing I can hang my hat on is that it wasn't the worst blowout of the weekend Yeah, by one point who is that? Well, Houston blew out their first round opponent by a lot. Yeah I mean like in the whole family you toss it Purdue Utah State was a 39 point victory. Yeah Purdue. I was 38

I gotta say I gotta give a lot of credit to Purdue. Yeah, people will be like, oh, they didn't play anyone. They played a 16 seed. They played a Utah State team that was probably overrated because they didn't play anyone non-con. Purdue deserves credit because Purdue has failed so tragically the last couple of years that to get to the Sweet 16 and to do it the way they did it, where they absolutely shit pumped both the teams along the way and

Zach Edie put up just insane, insane stats. Uh, produce very good. I'm not, I'm not, I'm a Purdue hater, but I'm also a Purdue Purdue realist. They're very good at basketball. What do you have 23 or 24 today? And they took him out real early. Yeah, no, really. Game. And, and he was dominant when he was in. He was dominant when he was in the game in their opening against Grambling. Yeah, he had 23 and 14 in it against Grambling.

I think he had a double double like with like eight minutes left in the first half. Yeah. So I was with 30 and 21. I'll say it. Produce legit. Zach Akiti has 53 points and 35 rebounds through two games Also Jake on your wild meter. Where do we have it Purdue in the ultimate wild? Their path if everyone wins Who's supposed to win? Would be they're playing Gonzaga. They played him in the Maui. They're playing they would play, Tennessee They played him in the Maui. They're playing they would play Tennessee They played him and beat him in the Maui and then if they great if Marquette I believe it's Marquette

Yeah, be crazy Marquette would be the final fourth game. They played and beat them in the Maui That's exactly how it went in the Maui Well to say there was one person like they haven't played anyone It's like they are they could easily their next three games could be games that they have already won on the season also you can't say they haven't played anyone a you don't control that be they earn the number one seed correct so screw those people yes room yeah and they could then potentially play Illinois again who they beat so yeah championship well though they beat them they did not beat him in the championship I'm saying they could meet in the championship. Yes, they've beaten twice

So they played some really good teams that are all sitting in front of them produce a problem. Zack Edie is a problem Yeah, and yeah, he does get some calls. That's not why they won this game They won this game because Purdue was dominant and Zack Edie was really good even without the refs on his side But it is it's confusing to watch the refs don't know how to officiate it really good even without the refs on his side. But it is confusing to watch. The refs don't know how to officiate them. Matt Painter had a comment after basically calling out anyone who says Zach Eaddy's not good at basketball. I agree with Matt Painter. Anyone who says Zach Eaddy's not good at basketball is a fucking moron. The guy's good at basketball, especially college basketball. I don't know.

Whatever happens to the NBA, happens to the NBA. He has put on a lot of muscle, gotten a lot better through his years at Purdue. I've watched it. He's put on a lot of muscle, gotten a lot better through his years at Purdue. I've watched it. He's put in a lot of work. He's very good at basketball. I don't love how he's reffed, but I would never say exactly he's not very good at basketball. Yeah, he's really good. Anyone who says he's not good at basketball, he's just tall, is being a hater. He's also got a great scowl. Very underrated look on his face. When he gets into business time, you can tell. And he does the LeBron face where he dips his forehead and looks at you at

the top of his eyes yeah very intimidating there's also probably the reason why that narrative is out there is there's probably two or three times a game where he is just too tall yeah where it's like he'll be he'll pick up a rebound he'll take it literally off the block and then just not even barely jump and put it back in you're like he's too tall Yeah And and basketball is always great for that so that us five eight and a half five nine people at home can watch and be Like if I was just as tall as that guy I would be so good at basketball

Yeah Without taking into account the fact that your body would be huge and you wouldn't be able to move as quickly as you do correct If you got these tiny little Mickey Mouse limbs. Correct. And he's gotten a lot better and a lot bigger and stronger. Zach Eaddy confirmed good at basketball. That was my full say something nice about Purdue. We also had Colorado Marquette, which was one of the best games of the weekend because that was kind of similar where Colorado has been playing so many games of basketball.

They've been, I don't know, they have six games in the last 12 days or something like that. But Marquette is back with Kolick looking like they could absolutely win the national title. Kolick, someone said it on Twitter, which is so perfect. Kolick's drive and layup with his left where he kind of does a little bit of bodywork and then extends his arm and is able to hit it off the backboard is the basketball equivalent of the tush push I don't know how you defend it. He's the smartest player in the tournament

Yeah, just watching the angles that he takes and like wait. He knows the situation all the time He makes the perfect play even at the end of the game when they were just trying to they're trying to run the clock out Take as many seconds as you could on each possession He knew what to do he knew when to pass the ball where to cut in order to take time off So they couldn't foul them. Yeah. And so they were trying to foul Kolick.

Yeah. And Kolick was just too smart for him getting around. So having that guy running point for you is, it's huge. And now that's going to be a good matchup against NC State. NC State team of destiny, I don't know. Team of destiny survives Oakland and yeah, that is going to be, that is going to be a very fun game. And then the other two quick games I want to talk about was the Alabama Grand Canyon game was one of the most chaotic games I've ever watched of not great basketball, but

I think if you're Grand Canyon, great season, credit to you. You should just make all your players just walk around with the basketball for the entirety of the off season because they just holding on to a basketball was a very, very hard thing for them to do. And they, their players would be doing these crossovers, but they wouldn't actually be doing, they would just be standing in place, but doing crossover dribbles, not actually moving side to side, just moving the ball from one side of their body to the other. And every time they bounce it, you thought they were going to bounce it off their own knee cap or their shin. It was, uh, it was out of control.

And it was, it was just hands and arms flying everywhere for 40 minutes and the ball just randomly bouncing out of bounds. Yeah. And then a basket would get scored now and now and again. And then Alabama running the, the basketball equivalent of the spread offense, they're doing, they're doing like some, some football shit out there. Well, and they just, they go, they like to go ice so they like to run. And when it works, it's nice, but they also don't play defense. Yeah. And I've, I've been a critic of Alabama basketball because of our good friend Rico Bosco and his

love affair with Nate Oates. They were watching them in the end of the season. They were soft. They got bullied down low. That Florida game in the SEC tournament was like they Florida just absolutely dominated them with layups and just being like stronger than them. Alabama won this game because they were strong rebounding the ball because it was Grand Canyon up three, Alabama comes down and they basically had two minutes where they were on their side of the court because they

went make three throw, miss three throw, free throw, rebound, make free throw, miss free throw, rebound and one. Like they just, they were able to out muscle Grand Canyon. And then Grand Canyon would try to run back down and have the same pace that Alabama has. They would pull up and take the worst three point shot that you've ever seen. Yeah. Hit off the front of the rim, Alabama gets the ball, they're back down at the other end. Yeah. So Alabama deserves credit there. Oh, we forgot one. One other thing was Iowa State looks really really good I want their coach so bad

He's from Wisconsin. Is he really? Yeah, he looks like a Wisconsin guy. He looks like a wrestler He looks like he's been like out muscle burger. He's been out in the Sun and springtime drinking milk all day I can tell too that that's like starting to bother cuz I've been included on some some Twitter threads where Iowa State fans are like he already has his dream job and it was like but he wants to go But I'm like, I don't want to get involved in this but yeah, I want him. Yeah, you could get him What can we do? You could have him. Does he want it? Does he want to be the president of Stella Blue Coffee? Would you make that happen easily? I've offered that job to way too many people but that's fine. Whoever takes it first gets it The guy offered it to Big T. Is he the most jacked basketball coach who?

Passed Martin still coaching. Yeah Is pretty Jack Jack buzz is jacked. Yeah buzz is absolutely jacked Bruce Pearl sneaky kind of jacked barrel chested. Yeah Bruce Pearl went out sad that Auburn Everyone's bracket got busted with Auburn. Yeah, I was the analytics darling I was told you know Auburn was you know top five in both these things there was I love the the week leading up to the Brackets where it's like it's now just tick-tock You can't go one one tick tocker Instagram scroll without some dude being like I got the perfect formula

Yeah, everyone everyone has a formula. Everyone does. And I believe them all. And every year they're wrong. Yeah. But yeah, these games are, I'm so excited for next weekend. What other games did we miss? Houston A&M.

Yeah, that was incredible. I mean, Houston almost, like that was, the fact that Houston let Texas A&M get to overtime, that would have been an all time, all time, all time March Madness loss. So they had a 99% win probability. Atlanta Falcons like win probability with 44 seconds left. I think what A&M was down, was it 12? With 11 with 148 I think. 11 with 148 left. And then somehow, through the magic of Wade, who just took every shot possible out there, they claw back,

get to overtime and then everyone on Houston fell out. Yeah. They, I mean, Texas A&M had a, Buzz Williams coached a perfect game in the fact that he, from the very first whistle, their entire strategy was go to the hoop on every possession and make them foul you. And they did. But Shed was too good. I mean that, that hop step by Shed where where he just I think he started almost at the three-point line ended up in The lane for that bucket down the stretch. He was the only guy left We had the we had the guy who was sitting on the bench named Elvin Elvin came had to come in and hit a free throw

Elvin was a name from our D&D quests Elvin No, like you can be that's like elf like would be, would be Elvin. You can have Elvin features. Oh, I'm Cake the Elvin Wizard! Oh you are? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's elf. So like, you're Cake the Elf-like Wizard, Elvin. Elvin. Yeah.

Like that means to like, have qualities pertaining to an elf. Gotcha. Alright, who's gonna be mad that we didn't mention them? Yukon's the fucking best. Yeah, okay, so let's just suck Yukon's dick real quick. Yukon is gonna win the national championship. I mean, they're doing the same thing again. I mean, the San Diego State will be definitely a step up from Northwestern and Stetson. Yeah, but I have no, I think they'll kill him. I want to be very clear. You con is going to

win the national championship, also going to win the national championship. You and C is going to win the national championship. UNC is going to win the national championship. Arizona is going to win the national championship. Gonzaga is going to win it. Purdue is going to win the national championship. NC State's the team of destiny. Marquette's going to win the national championship. NC State is the team of destiny. They're probably going to lose at some point. Houston's, Houston is a tough out. I think Houston's going to win the national championship and also Duke. Duke's playing great ball right now. The way they shot today. Duke is playing great ball right now. Houston's going to win the national championship and also Duke. Duke's playing great ball right now. The way they shot today.

Yeah, Duke's playing great ball right now. Duke is going to win the national championship. Purdue also going to win the national championship. Oh yeah, I forgot about Purdue. Because Virginia lost, you know, when Virginia lost to Sweet 16. Purdue's going to win the NAD. It's in the script. Yep.

Creighton's going to, if Creighton hits their threes, they will probably win the national championship. Tennessee and Rick Barnes. Actually the only, to go full circle on this, the the only team that's not gonna win the national championship is the Team we disrespected going in the tournament Clemson will not win the national champion. Yeah zero chance And now they will know how they will if that happens, I'll get a cat. Oh Okay, it's exciting

I'm not gonna yeah, I think they will just because we said they won't they're not Clemson's not gonna win I'm reverting back to my initial take. Yeah, I'm soon doesn't deserve to be here. Yeah Alright, Jake, what do you got for one shining moment or just you know, what announcer did a good job? What was that announcer that I motherfucked on Saturday night and your cattle on piece of shit? No piece of shit wrong wrong. He caught he called the he called a technical foul. No, what do you call? Yeah, he called it. Do he say there was a technical foul? And then he's like, oh, there wasn't. I forget.

Yeah. There's been so many things that I've gotten mad at. You can't do that. Adam Lefkoe is kind of stealing your swag. Yeah, but I know him personally. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. But I'm watching the games.

Yeah, a little bit. And there's been a few times where I'm like, I have to do a second glance. Cause I'm like, is that big head? And he's like, no. Listen. Wait, it's the fact, like how is he like is that big head? And it's like no. Listen. Wait, it's the fact like how's he stealing his swag? He looks kind of like my advisors. Yeah, he's got the.

He's got a turtleneck in the. Yeah. Yeah. By the way. He kind of looks like me. Yeah. It's just Lefkoe. I don't know if you've heard him talk after the games on TNT are over.

He says, welcome back. It's me Lefkoe. I love that. He's a good dude. But yeah, that's all right. You know, he's stealing my swag. It's like Cher, one name. I love that. He's a good dude. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, you know, it's like you know my swag It's like share one name. Yeah, that was my only other yeah, that's just my observation over the weekend was Yeah, but I like I like Lefkoe. We're like long-lost brothers. So he's he did a good job to respect

Alright, so Jake tell us what we missed. Yeah, so Florida Colorado Entering the weekend that was the game of the tournament. Walter Clayton, he had three to tie it at 100. And then Colorado hit a jumper to win it 102-100 in regulation, you never see that in college. That hung on the rim, right? That one? Yeah.

This is fun, this is a trip down memory lane because it's like, I watched all these games, but I do remember that. That one was like the Kauai shot. Yes, exactly, same spot. Who was that shot against? I think it was that. Let's go to the next one. Yes, exactly. Same spot. Who was that shot against? I think... What team was that?

Let's go to the next one. Okay. Sorry. Yale stuns Auburn. Nebraska's Tomanaga getting emotional. Yeah, I mean Tomanaga, that was the best five minutes that Nebraska basketball has ever played and then they got absolutely dog-walled. It's just crazy to me that Nebraska, a school that big with such a good athletic department

overall has never won a tournament game. Yeah, they never won a tournament. It's crazy. Grand Canyon's win over St. Mary's was dominant. Yep. That was Friday. Yep. Dante, you mentioned Al Youp.

We had a halftime buzzer beater from Clemson today, so more flowers to Clemson. For a halftime buzzer beater? Yeah, halftime buzzer beater. Just givingon today. So more flowers to Clemson for a halftime buzzer beater. Yeah, I'm a speeder I'm just giving up the I'm gonna say no flowers for that given at the moments left and right halftime buzzer beater No, and then a and a miracle forces ot and then what about your one shining moment? That was the ball was all of them Oh, you think Clemson halftime buzzer beater's me on one shiny moment. Yeah. Yeah, okay. It was a deep one Was that their signature moment they had the announcer call what about Oregon's in the first game first on

Thursday halftime buzzer beater yeah I have that okay okay what do you have what do you have no in the on Thursday oh half time buzzer beater that so not all halftime buzzers are built the same yeah what moment do you have in the JMU Wisconsin game? Uh, I don't know if I have probably one of our one of our 75 turnovers. Yeah. I don't have any specific. Yeah. I'd say one of our 75. I just like you guys hitting it's three. It's probably about that guy. You like celebrating after the guy in the stands yelling at the other guy in the tux. Yeah. Yeah. What about that guy shutting the fuck up? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's good. We could create our own. What have you, how would you grade this tournament, Jake? So I've compared this tournament a lot to the 2019 tournament where Virginia won it

all. Also good news for Purdue where it was mostly chalk in the first weekend. We had all ones and twos advance, which this time I think it's like the fifth or sixth time ever we've had that to this year 16 but In that second weekend. We had some crazy games. Remember that Purdue Tennessee sweet 16 game. I think Ryan Klein was his name He dropped like 40 went to overtime I think and then the elite eight game was the Virginia's Virginia Purdue game. Yeah with Mamadi de Akite So like I said that yeah he was ready correctly and then they won it all so I think we're lining up to

have an incredible sweet 16 elite 8. Calling it a shot, I like it. It's gonna be a great week to look at the logos that are playing against each other this upcoming weekend because like think about it if it was Yukon Yale notice respect to Yale it's like all right the battle for Connecticut yeah in Boston but they would have won by 20 yeah they were and they might still be San Diego State by 20 but at least like you have the storyline of the championship rematch and all of that and then how about that Yale big sweater guy oh yeah good for him he had some huge shoulders he He's on the moment, right Jake? Yeah, he's gotta be yeah, that's a moment. That's a for sure moment. Also, what'd you count for?

for Underwhelming. Oh that part's under not great Have we figured out what to call cuz there was one one of the hoops on Thursday Yeah, the net was too tight. The net was so tight that the ball was getting how they don't net loosen them up, but Whatever. What do you call those? I? think Megan said netters maybe netters be careful with that. Okay. Why it just don't say that one again Okay, you pronounce things very well, but just just to be so yeah just to be safe the That's that's a good list though Jake. It's been a fun tournament.

I'm excited for this week. Definitely not the most chaotic opening weekend we've seen. But still, the Kentucky game, like, that's 100%. Kentucky's got to look at this sweet 16 and be like, all our old friends are there. It's still the best. We're not. Yeah, tough day for Kentucky, seeing that.

Kentucky and Kansas. Kansas, yeah. Kansas won it all two years ago. Yeah. And Bill Self was worried about next year. There was a, yeah, put me down actually. I want to, I want to do a future on Kansas for next season. No, I actually, those self's already looking ahead. Someone hold on. You ready for this? Kansas might return four starters next year. Here's how Bill Self did when that happens. 21-22 national champions,

15-16 number one overall seed, 0-9-0-10, or 10 number one overall seed, 0-7-0-8 national champs, 0-6-0-7 number one overall seed. Yeah, see, Bill Self is thinking about next year, so I'm thinking about next year. Yeah. Next year's, this was the season- They're going to be a really good team next year. This was the season before the season for Kansas. Yes. This was the season before the season for Kansas. There was a person online, Pranav Sreeman, that asked an interesting question that I

thought I'd bring up to embrace debate here. They said, who's the worst NBA player that could lead the worst team in the tournament to the final? Like who's the worst NBA player that could take, who's the worst team in the final? Yeah, or to win the championship. Who's the worst team? I think it was Stetson or Howard or UVA Yeah, yeah UVA who's the worst who's the worst player in the NBA that you could put on UVA and have them win the national Championship I think I know my answer. I think there's only like maybe like three or four guys

Oh, I think there's way more than that to take Yeah, that could take the worst team and beat every other team with that. I don't know, NBA players are so much better than college baseball players. It's insane. Sam Houser? Yeah probably. The thing about it, he's the best player and they're saying like he's gonna be a what? Fringe first rounder? Yeah. I don't know if even that yeah. And he's the best player right now. I campaign Camp you think campaign could win could lead UVA. I do too. Yeah, yeah based off vibes Bobby Portis Bobby I know you need it you need to be like Virginia

No, I think such a weird system to play I think you lean into it you lean into the defensive pressure How's it would be good. But wait, there's gotta be more than, I mean, Luca, Tatum, LeBron, probably Anthony Davis, Jokic. If you wanna lean into the UVA-ness of it all, put Pat Bev on that team. Yeah.

I mean, imagine Embiid playing college basketball. Embiid, yeah. It would be Wilt. Yeah. Like, there's so many guys Oh, just dominate wimby wimby. Nobody could stop wimby There's not it there's not a team in college basketball right now that could do a goddamn thing about Victor Wimben yama Someone did say something very mean where they're like Zack Edie is exactly like Victor Wimben yama Minus like the shot making, the versatility, the handles, the speed, the skill. That was mean.

This the the tallness is there. The tallness is that you can't coach tall. Yeah, no, I think there's a lot. I mean, it's not. I think it's more than 15 or 20. Kawhi. I see. Dominate. I was I was thinking about Kawhi earlier, but he would dominate for sure. But could you just rely on him to single-handedly? I don't know how many would you'd have to like triple team him. Steph, Steph almost. Yeah. Yes. With Davidson. But Steph doesn't count because he's one of the best players in the NBA that could do it. Yeah. No, I'm just saying there's you. You said there's only four players that could

do it. I think there's like four. I think there's like five. Twenty plus easy. I mean the NBA is way better, I know that. Yeah, I just, all these guys thinking about it. Oh, Yannis would be a problem. Yannis would be a fucking... He'd be a problem. He would dominate everyone. It would be a joke watching it.

I'd like to see that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I just think, cause then what do you do? You put like three guys on them, and then you just have everyone else stand around and shoot think of it this Jimmer almost did it by himself. Yeah, yeah, and he sucked Yeah, but he was good great point Gouki be Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great point Yeah, I think you could I think you put a lot of guys on UVA and they would fuck everyone up

Pretty bad. Mm-hmm, especially because UVA could actually play defense So then you just add one more defensive like stopper no one would score on him And then you just have that one guy score all the points Yeah, I think UVA is probably the wrong example to use for that one. Yeah, but like long would Still you put you put Lebrron on Longwood and they're in the Final Four. For sure. And it'll be so much fun. I don't know if LeBron can play college ball.

That's why the coolest thing LeBron could have ever done for his career is just go to Akron for one year and just be like how deep could we dig? It would have been perfect just so that we could know. Yeah. So we could know the answer to that question. Yeah. And it would also be great if we just we should just do a tournament like this someone should fund this tournament Where every team that's in the tournament we just replay the tournament again, but everyone gets to add an NBA player

Yeah, Adam Silver you get all your ideas from the internet. Here's a good one Make it legal for NBA players to go and play one season in college after they've been in the league for like 10 years Right. Yeah, it's my rule of bringing a graduate back No, not even that like a guy that guy would be is a different rule because the guy goes straight to the NBA and Then they get to choose what college they want to play for one season. Yeah, but it would be it would be sick Yeah, be awesome to watch. Okay, anything else Hank you enjoy it. I feel like you were you have a good time I had a good time. My mega max lock Purdue was a miraculous backdoor cover Yeah, so that was fun Saturday night was fun Sunday wasn't as fun

But I still have fun. You see that's the thing. I'm excited for a good sweet succeed matchups And I hope we get a good final four. I maybe it's just because March Madness is something that is so Engrained in my head that I lose money no matter what. When people are like, oh, you care about your bets, you decide if it's fun if you win or lose. I lost all my bets. I had a lot of fun. I enjoyed watching basketball for four days. I enjoyed the moments. None of it ended up good for me. I also lost my job Friday night, so that wasn't as fun. No, you didn't. You got fired?

Yeah, for a second. And then you kept showing up? I was over on the precipice you monsened it. He just kept on asking me the same question I gave him the same answer over and over and over the question It was just like will you be mad if I go hard and I was like, yes I care a lot about my team. So wait, so did Hank at any point go hard? No We had a word we figured it out figured it out that it would not make sense. I was like, everyone wants to tune in to watch me die. I will die and it will be tortured and I'm going to die. And then I died and was tortured. Everyone watched me.

Biz was Biz, obviously, you know. Golden Retriever, he's like, what are we taking? I was like, I think a lot of people are taking JMU. And that set Big Cat off. Well, Hank also touched me and was like, did the Draft Kings huddle up and was like, what do we think about JMU guys? And touched me. He is touchy. He touches me and it's a technical foul. I wanted that on the record, technical foul if he touches me.

He's been touching me a lot. Yeah Hank gets non-consensual touching, should not be allowed in that setting. He gets very feely. Yeah. Max, is it okay that I kissed you on Friday? Yeah, it was good. Okay good at you. I came to yeah, I just had a fucking vacation weekend Well, no, I'm on the company. Hi, I'm not sure Max was working hard working hard got some great clips out there Yeah, that was my lowest moment when I was just like Max just fucking

Like burns our money going to New York. It was $300 Again, I said it was my lowest moment. No one was even listening to I was I said I was appalled What what were you appalled about? I thought Max did a great job. They do a great job Can I love Mac I do a never be mad at Matt a quick PSA cuz I was just thinking about the game It's love love seeing the fans out in public. If you're an AWL, love San Heidi, love taking pictures, all that stuff. Uh, one small request though, like, if I'm actually peeing and my penis is out and I'm at a urinal,

can we wait for like 15 seconds? I disagree, it's a Friday Night March Madness game. I think that's all bets are on yeah, I just yeah, okay I think they get I think they get to touch it if they want You only let take that back Dick's grabbed well, okay, so it's not it's not don't do that It's not for me But it's for the other three guys that were standing next to me also taking a piss and there's a guy just with this camera

Out being like PFT take a picture and then the three guys are like, yeah, you're taking a picture me while I'm pissing Yeah, that's fair. That's a fair. I think that's a fair request That's a fair request like if I'm shitting and you put your phone over the top of the stall and get a picture me That's one because that's just me. Yeah, it's everybody else Yeah, it's fair request You you agree? Yes What's up Hank? What's wrong? Just losing today? No, I'm good. Hank's not good. He's not good Hank. You're hiding something I can always tell what's on your mind Hank. There's nothing on my what's wrong. Come on. You're on the psychiatrist couch over there

Nothing. What's wrong? No, there's something there's something wrong I'm talking to tiff right now. Is there you talking? I'm been talking to Ben. Whoa, what is wrong though? There's nothing. No, there's something on your mind though You haven't said nothing wrong. Are you still scared of big cat? I'm focused. I'm not back together yesterday I literally saw him one second. I was like, I'm sorry. I think he's scared. No, I think he's um, I took my medicine earlier That's usually what it is Then nothing is yeah Yeah

Focus I'm very focused something's wrong. No, I don't think so that Explains it all that that's the car is very pretty much every time when I when I can't that is true every time you take Your medicine we're like dude. What what's fucking wrong with you, and you're like nothing. I Took the medication. I'm prescribed to take and we're like oh, okay. Yeah when Hanks healthy We're like what the it really does go like that well It's like yeah, I'm usually you know I have ADHD You know you know say things or be a little more outgoing and then when I take my medicine I'm just quiet yeah, and then we're like what the fuck's wrong with you. Yeah, I actually I did the resting anger face

That's where it gets me my perfect. My perfect tank is when he hasn't slept for like three days Yeah, and he just has no idea what's coming out of his mouth and just lets it fly. Yeah I like that person my perfect tank is after he does comedy Yeah, yeah all the way to the world off of Yeah, feeling like a new man. There was there was a moment when I came into the office on on Saturday when we were starting the stream, I came straight from the airport and I got in the door and it was like a morgue in the office because the mood from last night on Friday was apparently well we'd

lost everything and I lost everything. Yeah. It was bad. We could not have I don't think anyone won a single thing on Friday. Well, actually you did. Yeah. J.M.U. Fredell. No, it was, we went- And Purdue.

No, Purdue Friday I was running high. Purdue, Purdue, we went- That Purdue cover was, I don't think anyone else really had it. It was was for me Miraculous just when it was a it was a walk-on guy that never plays hit a three when it didn't matter Yeah, we went back to back on Friday night where we we got all whooped up for will in, Nebraska What do you mean whooped up like everyone was like, let's go Nebraska Like let's do this and then it was just was just so bad. Did you bet on Nebraska? Yes, just for Will.

Yes, literally, I was like all week, I was like, I think Texas AM's a better team to win this game. Yeah, it's a mistake. And then I was like, you know what? I said the quote, and I'll say it again, and I actually believe this. I will never be someone who wins money gambling.

I have to be rich in friends. So like that was my whole plan, was like, I'm not, winners are never gonna happen for me friendship is more important So I I'd fucking put on a fucking headband and I was like, let's do it and then it just whoo fell flat so fast Yeah, that sounds so fast like bad vibes there I'm actually glad I wasn't there on Friday because it would have been it would have been weird if everybody was losing everything and then I'm just like the happiest I've ever been watching a basketball game. Yeah

Yeah, it was it was tough. It was tough, but that's March and I bounced back a day later I was back here just doing the thing. But yeah, it just sucks. It's sports I wish I wish I didn't care as much as I cared. I am jealous of people who can Compartmentalize and not let it bother them. I care a lot and it just fucking sucks I mean you were you like you were today you were you were down. Yeah, I was down. But also in the grand scheme of things house money. Yeah. Well, you got to win. Yeah, not expect to be there. Got a big win. Probably the biggest in program history and got to see it. So I was I was feeling good. I was feeling good. I'll feel better tomorrow. Now I'm a little

bit down. But in the grand scheme of things, it's like, this was a good March for me. Yeah. When Hank loses it, it doesn't shock. Yeah. It was the show. Yeah. So I mean everyone deals with their losses different ways. Okay. I'm good. You also a big cat. I mean, oh, here it comes. All right. Here it comes. Finally. There was a point when you were, you were, you were lashing out and you were like, fuck everyone that's texting me. Fuck you. Oh Hank. Finally. There was a point when you were you were you were lashing out and you were like fuck everyone that's texting me. Fuck you Max Homer. Yeah. Fuck you. Con. Well these I would never do this way. Do that all the time. No I don't. When have I done that. What if I text you right after a lot. We have to know. We have to know.

We have to show how many times have you texted that. Oh no. Oh wait no. Regular game. That's with max. It happens. It does happen all the time, but only to max. But are we talking about playoffs? Cause first of all, we're watching playoffs together. But like if it was, yeah, sell the same of the Celtics blue in the playoffs. I've done that. I've texted you. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think that's true. I do not think that's true. And I also don't text random people like you and I are like our relationship different than fucking Spencer Hawes who I haven't talked to in a year just texting me out of nowhere talking shit. That's a weird move. Captain cons. I'm not going to talk to him for a year. I know you text someone that you don't like talk to regularly.

Okay, but wait, no, no, no. Bad loss. I would not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if he also texted you individually, but he texted the group chat that we're on where he added Frank Kaminsky where he says things about part of my take. I understand. But he added Frank Kaminsky and he started a new group chat. I do not. When someone's losing in the middle of a game, I do not text them in the middle of the game. Like, Oh, person I don't talk to. Is that not? That's fair. Do I do that? Talk to I don't talk. Like I was listening to people who I don't talk to. Is that not? That's fair. That's do I do that? I don't talk like I was listening to people who I don't talk to regularly. We're still trying

and they just start in results. So I was still trying to face in the middle. This was in the middle of that. And it's, I was like, Ryan, hang up your phone. Like please don't FaceTime right now. He's like, he's not going to pick up like, like even the Stanford Steve's SCP thing. That's a regular season game. If someone wanted to talk shit during a regular season game, I don't care. Scott, when Scott texts me after Maryland beats Wisconsin, I don't care. A tournament game. It sucked. Now it's so hot, but I didn't want to respond. There is also, I didn't, there is a max into this. I just didn't respond. There is a max exception because it, those texts do happen

But strictly with max yeah, that's probably fair, but that also you do that you do that Yeah, I do yeah, I idea for sure would you ever text someone who you don't talk to regularly? during a bad loss talking shit That is a crazy move to me if it was like a friend like if I yeah if it was a friend that That is a crazy move to me. If it was like a friend, like if I, yeah, if it was a friend that that's a crazy, maybe haven't talked to in a year, but like, yeah, the time was right. I might still, I think that's a crazy move. And like Twitter's totally different because you can just not look at Twitter. Like I know I'm going to get shit

on Twitter. Who cares about Twitter? The text feels personal when someone texts you in the middle of a torture. Like if I have, I have a friend that went to Virginia Tech that like we don't talk day to day. You would do that? I don't think I would. I would wait a day and then I would talk shit. Did you text Matt Jones from Kentucky during the loss? No.

Fuck no. That would be crazy. Circumstantially, I'm not gonna say I wouldn't because I guess maybe, I don't know. I just can't think of the time where I've done that to someone I don't regularly talk to the only exception being if my team's Playing their team if so if like if BFD texts me, that's totally fine if it's Like that's that makes sense if your team is involved but like third party out of nowhere Text that I haven't talked to this person in months. I'm like, I'm not responding to that

Yeah, I didn't do I didn I like I wasn't like I responded Fuck you don't ever talk to me again. I'm just not responding. Yeah, would you respond to that? Would you text someone you don't talk to I I well so Marty texted me during this game But he's a Duke fan, right and then I was just like I don't that's kind of expected. Yeah, you lashed out Yeah, I just said why is it texting me? I don't want to respond to this But you know, it's if your team's playing the other person's team I think that's totally fair. But yeah, we should just clarify that with Max. That's fine. Max does not apply to these rules Yeah, man. What would you do? We get 90% of our joy on this podcast out of out of doing that exact thing to Max

Would you text a random person you haven't talked to in a while? And again, it's not like I hate these people. I just not gonna respond There's one kid in particular that I'm these people. I just not going to respond. There's one kid in particular that I'm thinking of that I would. So it sounds like everyone has one. Mine's Max. But it sounds like you're a lot of people's one person. Well, yeah, I knew I knew what's coming when I went like the Twitter like when everyone

shits on my throat, I know what's coming. I can deal with it. The text just feels personal. So I'm just not going to respond. When home attacks at us, I just want to respond to be polite, but I did not expect you to respond to it. Yeah I also will I will text someone during the loss being like you're getting both of you Changed it as well because it's oh, yeah, I get it. I get the joe's I got the joke I'll text someone like can

consoling them like when Titus when that when Ohio State lost that game in the Big Ten championship I texted him like an hour later I was like the foul discrepancies insane like you guys got fucked actually this was a funny text from Max Alma this is to me and big cat at 930 I thought it was kind of vanilla hey just wanted to let you know I'm watching the game and I'm rooting for your team I know he'll be bad But that makes it even better. Oh shoot. I didn't mean to send this to both of you guys. That's like alright I mean you do that all the time. Yeah

Yeah, all right, so that's what was on your what else what else you mad at me for Seems like you're very mad I get it. That was my only note my only you know we know, we did come to it. We had a, we had a long conversation before the outburst was pregame, which I thought were still within the lines of, yeah, I thought that Hank did something like laws of engagement. He just asked me over and over in the kitchen. Will you be mad if I, if I go really hard and I said yes, over and over and then he asked me a different way and I'd say yes. And it was like, we had the same conversation for maybe 20 minutes where I was like, I don't know how I can answer this differently

than I care a lot, I really want to win this game. So you got pretty mad at him. Well, cause it was like I was talking to, like he was just basically gonna ask the question until I was like, you know what, I don't care. But it was never gonna happen. The irony in this is that Big Cat did actually get mad at you for asking him if he would get mad at you.

Cause he asked me so many times. You asking him if he would get mad at you. Because he asked me so many times. Yeah, you asked him if he would get mad too many times. So many times that it was like, I can't, there's nothing I can do here. We're not going to ever see eye to eye. But that was, you know, months ago at this point. Yeah, I moved on when I saw you. I was like, I can't be mad at you.

I saw your face, cute ass face on Saturday morning. Oh, so you went to bed mad. I went to bed in the worst mood ever You can't you never go to bed mad. I went to it's like I feel like I'm pretty good for a Really really bad mood for about 12 hours after a bad loss and then I can move on isn't that not fair? Can we all agree that's fair? Yeah, that's that's a it feels like it's a fair thing to do 12 hours 24 hours. I mean Hank you are in a bad mood when you lose. Yeah, yeah, right. That's not dead. It's natural We just have to sometimes get on here and talk about it Like I would have it would I would have talked about on Friday night if we had the show and it would have been similar

We suck it would have been it would have been a bad show if we'd done that. I thought about hitting you guys up and being like, time capsule, should we record something? It would have been the same thing. It would have just been, we suck, that sucked. It was torture. No, but I would have been so happy. Yeah, well you still were happy today.

I was happy, I came in happy. I woke up happy this morning. Yeah, you were happy yesterday. I got all your happiness. I've been happy for the last week and a half. Sports has made me happy every day for the last week and a half and now sports has made me sad. Not me. Everything sucks. Everything fucking sucks. I feel like Max. Max, I would have rather had Max's way out. The NIT would have been way better. No one gives a fuck. Wisconsin went to the final four of the NIT last year. No one gave a fuck so much better to not have

Like a very public everyone's watching your failure and the Friday night time slot is the worst He's meant to wait for you have to wait and then and then it's like all everyone thinks about after the first the Conclusion of the first round is that and everyone everyone's like, man, that was bad. And I just sat there with it. Or if you're good, you're like, man, that was good. Yeah, no, it's great for you. And then you do something dumb like put a bet on JMU to win the national championship right afterwards.

I did get one guy, one email from a guy. Now I have to look at that future for the rest of the tournament. That's brutal. Because it doesn't cash out or doesn't cancel out until, yeah. I got an email from one guy who was like, the badgers suck and I hope you die and your email from one guy who was like, the Badgers suck and I hope you die and your kids die.

And I was like, that felt a little far. But everyone else was totally fair to just shit on me. I deserved it. My team was an embarrassment to watch. And I'm sorry that people had to watch it. That's how bad I felt. When you have to say sorry to, we were watching in the cave, I had to move it to the little TV.

Yeah. Because I was like, I don't want you guys to have to watch this anymore. Yeah, we did that today with the Duke JMUM.U. game too. It's embarrassing. All right. So it seems like we're good, Hank. You were holding that in for a long time. I got it out. Yeah. I could tell that something. Yeah, no, I could too. I mean, that's just not true, but we're good. Yeah. And now we're on to bigger and better things. You got your beloved Duke. Yeah. Now you're Duke. Now you're Duke I want Hank I want dookie Hank back Hank's just taking off a series of masks in the first one

He's just ripped off the JMU mask. I'm a Duke fan all along. Hey cuz I love Duke Hank is electric Let's go to the final four Duke Hank. Okay Get the jumpsuit back I got a I actually got rid of my Duke stuff when I moved or I had one sweatshirt left and I didn't make the cut I think that if Duke loses to Houston, you should have to jump in that pool And put a new hole in her and and then run to the shower. I'm going to Dallas, but we'll see yeah You're going to Dallas, buddy You got it

You got a jump in the pool and then run through the house to the shower and try not to fall. You have a tee time in Dallas? Here, it's going to be like 70 degrees. No, tee time means like Tiffany. It's an abbreviation. It's got tee time. Yeah. Yeah, it did snow.

That was the other. It snowed on Friday here. And I was just like, I woke up, and I was like, fucking Hank. Yeah. But he's right. It's been a mild winter. He has called it. All right, let's do Who's Back of the Week,

and then we'll get to our interviews. OK, Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. We have the chill calendar. The chill islander. For March Madness. Got it right here. We opened up the first two on Thursday's show, right?

On Friday? Yes. So all right, so we got how many more now? Three more? Do we have, yeah, we have, it's the, what, how how many more now three more do we have yeah, we have it's the What how many yeah three more are we doing two more? I don't know how days were okay It works either reserved my bracket kicked off today, and I have enough on my mind without someone trying to steal my seat Will I go to the bathroom? Oh, I like that seat so you put that in a bar seat savers Well, you're having a nice take or slight take how many we open in max

It's more than that because the playing games were were wanted to wanted to oh so tell me when to stop tell me when to stop so Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday so for I got a foam no five five today's Monday I got a home finger right here that's the size of a normal finger it says we're number one actually Hank This is this is Duke colors. Hmm. If you want an extra anger No, you want an extra finger for this weekend? Yeah, sure. Okay. Okay By the way when you choose Coors light

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future Kendra Klamar J. Cole Drake Say it again give us our options again future Kendra Klamar Metro Boomin Metro Drake J. Cole. I think I think I'm on Drake's side I like Metro woman was that right I mean it's it's you know it's it's what's the beef dealer's choice okay are you on I think I'm on on future and Kendrick oh so it's 2v2 shit I should have said future I think it's really 2v1, so Future and Metro Boomin released an album that was basically all a response to Drake, and there was a song that Kendrick Lamar was featured on where

he took direct shots at Drake. So it's kind of, you know, it's a Civil War situation. There's obviously interpersonal beefs in between the big beef, but... Drake is the big beef. It's basically future and Metro I've seen the video Drake got it apparently it's over a girl but who knows wait so I picked future by picturing yeah pitching picking Metro Boomin mm-hmm okay so you got two for one yeah all right who side are you on

he's a future in Metro Boomin Metro Boomer. Metro Boomer. Okay. Yeah. Alright, I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. I now feel confident knowing that I can walk around if someone asks me this question. I'm like, future. Drake. Whoa.

Damn, dude. Is this the start? Is this the start? Is this the start? Hank, be careful who you root for. Be careful. Hank, don't you fucking root for future in front of me. Be careful.

You don't care about future. Be careful. Hank, don't you fucking root for future in front of me. Be careful. You don't care about future. Be careful. My Who's Back of the Week is Dos Acero. The US Men's National Team won the, I think it's a three-peat for us in the CONCACAF Nations League Cup Final Trophy. I don't know, it's a made-up tournament that CONCACAF made up, but we beat Mexico two to nothing, which is always awesome when we beat them two to nothing. So our team's really fucking good. Our team's awesome good our coaches a shithead geo rain is awesome, too

We got a really good team I'm still I'm staying my prediction that we need to make it if we don't make it to at least the quarterfinals in The next World Cup massive disappointment is there soccer in the Olympics Yeah Yeah, there is. I don't know. Sure. Yeah. No one really cares about it.

What tournament was this? It was the Nations League final cup trophy, CONCACAF. No thanks. Yeah, no. It was, but USA winning Dos Acero was always good against Mexico. Yeah, I just, what's that again? Dos Acero. No, no, no.

I know that part. The trophy of the CONCACAF League of Nations final. If it's more than like? No, no, I know that part the trophy of the conca calf League of Nations Final if it's more than like four words, I'm out. I think it's I think the actual name for is the conca calf Nations League cup Yeah, anyways, it's a made-up. It's a made-up tournament So made a few years ago because that's what conca calf does just get more TV stuff, but we beat Mexico I like Pete in Mexico and our young guys look awesome. We had probably the goal of the year from Tyler Adams. He shot one from like 35 yards out. Fucking knuckleball rocket. It was great. So

Whole of the year. I'm buying stock. We're only in March. I'm buying stock. I'm buying stock in the national team. Okay. My who's back of the week is Caitlin Clark. We had the women's tournament start and I am so excited for Caitlin Clark in Iowa to keep advancing because it's getting nuclear. Caitlin Clark head butted a ball.

A ball? Yeah. People were like, what a brat. Disgusting. I was like, what? I don't know. How is that a brat? She was frustrated.

Did she head butt out of frustration or out of what she said? It was out of frustration. They were struggling with Holy Cross. They were up like 20. Was she mad at the ball? It's just it's gotten to a point where I don't even know How how people have found this much hate in their heart for someone again? I like it though Yeah, no, I do too, but it's it's out of control. Yeah, I love out of control actually love it I love it when when you can hate a female athlete enough to have takes on it for yeah

She she has like Duke times 10 hate. Yeah. It's crazy. Also women's tournament, cause Kim Mulkey did a press conference saying she's got a hit piece going against her, but it's not out yet. It was an interesting strategy on her part.

No idea what the article is gonna be about. But I wanna read it now. Now I wanna read it. Oh yeah. I did not care about this article until I heard about it because Kim Olkey did a press conference to talk about How no one should read the article that's gonna come yes, I would agree with that interesting strategy Kim Yeah, did you guys see the story from the referee in? Chattanooga versus NC State women yeah, yeah, that was crazy

They pulled the ref at halftime because they realized that she went to school to chat at Chattanooga Yeah, she got her master's there, right? Yeah, and you're supposed to disclose it and she didn't disclose it before hands. It's just crazy They pulled her in the middle of the game. Yeah, I like that's a win for integrity though. Absolutely I wonder yeah, I wonder who found out about that. You know what? I bet I bet it was somebody online I bet somebody online like a real freak a real like die-hard fan was like this ref has given us the worst calls I'm gonna look up her bio and then they're like, oh shit. She actually went to that school I bet it was like a golf thing where they called in the violation and they took action Yeah, I don't know who alerted who in the middle of the game, but it happened respect

Oh also Donald Trump's back cuz he won another club championship this weekend Yeah, I just saw dudes the best golfer of all time deep field deep field some of the it was a very golfing field He said I actually respect the fuck out of him just having tournaments that he wins cuz I would do the same thing Yeah, if I had my own club, I would just be like, yeah, let's all play and I'm gonna win I won again and I want everyone to do a gala for me after Mm-hmm where I get my trophy. I think he won it he won a couple days ago But now he's doing a big ceremony tonight presenting himself with a trophy that rocks Yeah, that's if you if you have a fuckload of money And you don't do stuff like that and you don't you either have to own a sports team

Yeah, or you have to constantly dominate your friends at sports where you get to decide the rules I said that I've said this before but I our old friend Jericho Abbas if I was like a billionaire I'd build a I'd build a baseball field in my backyard and I would have I would pay him a million dollars where he had to pitch to me Like whenever I wanted just call him up like you had to come pitch to me But he had to fucking let me just hit Dingers off him. Mm-hmm. So every day I could just like I want to hit a few dingers call him up And he's got to give me just the the worst and he's got to act like he's upset Mm-hmm, then like god damn it not again, but wait big cat at the stadium that you would build Would you pay for your own fucking stadium? I would pay for my own fucking stadium. It'd be so sick

It'd probably be wiffle ball if I'm being on. Oh, I love whiffleball fields that look like major league baseball fields. Yeah, if we're being honest, it would be a whiffleball field for sure. All right, Jake, your Who's Back. My Who's Back of the week is Michigan basketball. Yes. We have the coaching carousel begin and recurring guest Dusty

May is going from FAU to Ann Arbor. People thought he was going to go to Indiana. He's an Indiana boy. Wouldn't it be so confusing if Dusty May, like he was a new Tom Izzo, so it was January, February, May. Yeah. April, May. Yeah. We sleep in May. Yeah, we sleep in May.

John Rossi is for sure gonna do that. Rossi was almost on the court. Yeah. At the end of that A&M game. Rossi was playing defense against the inbound guy. Yeah. I got comment from our colleague, Whiteboy Rick, who's an Indiana fan because Indiana fans

I think they dusty May was on their list. Yeah He I think he what he was on he was a manager on one of the Bobby night teams. Maybe yeah last ones Either way, I asked him for comment and he said because I was like, oh that sucks You probably had dusty man on your list if you had fired Mike Woods and he had a great response He said no, this is good. He had a great response. He said, no, this is good. He's going to prove that he can win with the big boys. Then he'll take the Indiana job.

Which is an even bigger boy. So Michigan's just stepping stone for Indiana. Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love the Indiana delusion. He's going to go. He's going to win a couple of Big Ten titles. Beating Indiana and then he's going to be like, I want to join Indiana.

That's what Brad Stevens is doing. He got to the NBA, learned how to coach in the NBA then he transitioned to front office So he learns how to assemble a great team right and now that he's got like a full 360 degree view of how to actually run an operation then he'll come back to Indiana right yeah With with dusty May I I was thinking about this when they announced the hiring is he automatically a Michigan man Or do you have to have tweeted Michigan man? Do you have to prove yourself? Do you have to do something Michigan? No, he's definitely he's also probably not tall enough to be a Michigan if we're honest. Yes, we met usually tall Yeah, they're hardball like okay. Yeah, so football and basketball for me. Like Dave is not

Not a Michigan man not tall enough Real Michigan man. You have to earn your man. Like strong stock. I'll never be Michigan man. I like the high. You'll never be a Michigan man. I don't wanna be Michigan man.

I think they're gonna be back quickly. Okay, yeah, no, he's a great coach. A great coach. Great guy. Is he gonna bring Golden with him? Yeah, all those guys still have eligibility, so it'll be interesting to see if he brings any of those guys from FAU, from Boca to Ann Arbor. Yeah, I would not go. I'll just say that if I was yeah if I was golden

But and I'd be like do I want to move to Michigan and away from the beach? No counterpoint You could become a Michigan man. He is in Michigan. He's tall enough. He could be a Michigan man for life I'd rather be a Florida man Florida men have way more fun. Yeah get to do way better drugs in Florida All right, let's get to our interviews. We got two great ones with Jack Goukki and DJ Burns and then the other side we'll wrap up the show. Maybe we'll talk about the coaches picture real quick because I still have to do that blog. Let's do it. Give me some help. Before we get to Jack Goukki, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Visible. Ever wish you could call foul on your wireless carrier for their

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For additional terms and network management practices, see visible.com. Now here's Jack Goukhy. OK, we now welcome on a very special guest. He captured the hearts of America for about 48 hours. It is Jack Goukhy from Oakland, who had the huge upset on Thursday night at Kentucky, lost in overtime on Saturday night, which we apologize for. We were pulling for you very, very hard, Jack, but we still wanted to have you on because

we'll start here and you can tell me if this is wrong or not, but you were built in a lab to be the perfect March Madness guy. Like the look, the team, the beating Kentucky, the fact that literally every shot you take is a made three. Did you know that going in? You're like like if I have a good game like I'm gonna I'm gonna just take over the country for a day Well first off. Thanks for having me on guys. This is awesome But I mean yeah, I guess looking back on it

I didn't really expect that or think about it that way but now that you kind of lay it all out and I mean you see all the memes and all the Just everything going around I would have never expected all that but it all kind of lay it all out and I mean, you see all the memes and all the just everything going around, I would have never expected all that, but it all kind of just fit together like you said. And yeah, I guess the story just, it was just too perfect and people saying it's an industry plan and all that stuff is just crazy. Yeah. Yeah. You were, you're an industry player. And you know what? I enjoyed every second of the CIA op. I, I really did got caught up in Gulk-E-Mania. Yeah. They finally did something right. Yeah. The stat that was going viral was your breakdown of three-point attempts to two-point attempts this

season. So you attempted two two-point, or excuse me, eight two-point shots all year long. Do you even practice mid-range? So I tell my teammates this year, I'm like, Hey guys, I used to shoot twos. I used to make a couple of twos a game, but they just do not believe me. Um, ever since the year started coach campy just kind of set me up as, as the three point specialist. And to be honest, this whole season I have, I really haven't gone in the gym and shot many tubes Yeah, let's just get in there get a couple form shots and then start launching three So does that mess with your foul shooting at all because I've always thought like if a guy's a three-point specialist at some point He's not he's not working on mid-range game. So that could impact you from the foul line

We were actually saying that you should take your foul shots from the very very top of the key like yeah back up five feet. I that you should take your foul shots from the very, very top of the key. Like back up five feet. I, I, I definitely should, man. I mean, this was my worst free throw shooting year in a long time. So something was, something was definitely up. Maybe I should have just been shooting them from half court or something. Yeah. Close. Yeah. You were too close. So going back to Thursday night, cause it was, it was an incredible game taking down Kentucky. The way I put it is like you know all those Kentucky guys are going to a lot of them are going to go on to be pros make millions of millions of dollars but you basically you and your teammates can be like

yeah we had him one night. We took it. We took him down one night and that's one of the coolest things. That's why we love this tournament. At what point in the game though were you guys like wait we can play with them. Like this is not going to be a game where they can just overpower us. Yeah, I think the first couple minutes of the game, they did a really good job of kind of imposing their will as Kentucky, as like a power five school where they just kind of fed the ball inside and got a couple quick buckets on us. But I think it was probably like the third media timeout. So like about halfway through the first half where we might've been tied or down one, something like that. And we're just like, Hey, if we've hung with them for 10 minutes, like we might as well just

go out here and do this thing. Like, let's just go do it. Let's shock the nation and have some fun with it. And we kind of just ran with it from there. Yeah. Were you, were you at any point, did you feel at any point that you were in the zone? Cause it felt like that. Cause some of the shots you were you were you at any point? Did you feel at any point that you were in the zone? Because it felt like that because some of the shots you were making were ridiculous where it's like no one should be shooting this Like falling away hand in the face being you know guys trying to run after you Did you feel like you had reached the zone at any point? Yeah, it was just a classic game for me If for anyone who's like watched my career, they know I miss open threes and I make the hardest threes Yes, I don't know why that is, but, uh, I, yeah, I, there was a time in the first

half, I think I made like three or four in a row and a couple of them, I kind of threw up and didn't even see them go in. I kind of thought they were bricks. And then everyone was just like cheering and I was like, okay, I'll take it. Like, yeah, that's incredible. Did you know you were going to be wet before the game? Like in warmups, were you like, yeah, tonight's, tonight's the night. Uh, I was feeling good. Yeah. Uh, a couple Did you know you were going to be wet before the game? Like in warmups, were you like, yeah, tonight's the night? I was feeling good, yeah. A couple of the Kentucky guys were chirping me a little bit

in warmups because of some comments I made in the pregame interviews. So at that point, I was like, OK, I got to show out today, or else I'm going to be getting clowned the entire game. Would you say pregame? So in the pregame interview, I guess it was the day before pre practice, they were people were asking me about Kentucky and and I told them,

like they're obviously tremendous shooting team shoot the best percentage of the country. But I think our team shoots it better. And they just ran with that. Their their fans said, oh, this is ridiculous. Blah, blah, blah. So then before the game, their players were just saying, like, you better you better have a good night or else you can't be saying stuff like that. And then they didn't really say anything the entire game. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. You were dead right. What is it? What is your range? Man. As soon as you walk in the gym, you got

to start firing anywhere. Anywhere. My teammates are going to pass me the ball. I'm putting it up. Yeah. And we, by the way, so the other part of the perfect, like you're an industry plant for March Madness, you had an NIL deal almost like 10 seconds after you got off the court. You also, we go buy the shirts in our Barstool store. We did an NIL deal with Jack. So those are, those are live right now. But what, how quickly did that all take place? Like was it just, you were in the locker room and you're like, all right, now I got to do an ad tomorrow. No, you guys are going to love this. So my phone obviously was just blowing up. I didn't even want to look at it. A couple of my buddies are just like, dude, we'll just set up an

email for you and we'll do it all. So I didn't even see any of it. It was just, it was just them going through these emails and being like, oh, let's do this one. Let's do this one. This is a good one. This is a bad one. That's incredible. They picked it. Just my two, two dumb guys just running the, running the email, picking the TurboTax and I go in the hotel ballroom and shoot a video and everyone's telling me it's so amazing because it's so bad. Yeah, it's so perfect. The TurboTax, that contributed to the conspiracies out there because like, wait, now he's doing

an ad where he's just getting the government paid. Yeah. Doing an ad right before we have to pay our taxes. Right now. But it was, credit to your dumb friends because that's like that's a pretty good NIL deal to just have come through at the last second. No. Yeah. Shout out to them. They made it happen. Yeah. That's all. That's perfect. Yes. What's next for you? What do you have on the horizon right now? Um, so I just got invited to the final four to do a three point contest there. So I'm excited for that. That'll be

fun. Do you need one of us to put a hand in your face for it? Because like you said, I think I would shoot better. Yeah. Come out. Uh, yeah. So maybe I'll run into you guys out there. That'll be awesome. Yeah. Um, and then after that, just, uh, gonna try to play pro. I have no idea where I'm gonna end up, but just gonna kind of go through the process during the summer and maybe I'll be overseas. Maybe I'll be, you know, G league or whatever it is, but just going to try to keep playing basketball and, and avoid the car salesman or insurance jobs as long as possible.

Yeah. I think I said on the stream last night, I was like, this guy is so perfect. Like he probably already has a job at Deloitte lined up. Um I want yeah I mean I want to I want more Jack Goukhi on the on the basketball court. I also said I was like we have to hire him so I think you have a standing job here. I kind of got creepy though I was like I don't even I didn't want to do anything I just want to have him and like whenever someone comes over we're just like hey you want to see our guy shoot some threes. No it's like we got a though. I was like, I don't even, I didn't want to do anything. I just want to have him. And like whenever someone comes over, we're just like, Hey, you want to see our guy shoot some threes? No, it's like, yeah, we would be like, okay, here's our popcorn machine right there. There's the gambling cave. There's our goal key. Yeah. Your job is just hit threes all day long. I'll just be a prop. And then if I miss a couple

threes, you guys just gotta kick me to the curb. I mean, we might, we might need you if we ever have to do the free throw competition again like that. You'll be the first call. Yeah. But yeah, but from the three point line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Those for everybody else. I'll shoot deep threes. Did you get a text from JJ watt? I did. Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. Oh, of course he's trying to get, he's trying to get in the limelight here. What'd he say? I should have, uh, JJ, don't, but that would have been, oh, that would have been, say that would have been like flashbacks for

him. Yeah. He was like, what the fuck did you, did you grow up like watching JJ watt play in the NFL? Oh yeah. I mean he, uh, so I'm trying to think what year he graduated high school, but I saw him a little bit in high school. I saw him at Wisconsin and obviously he was at Central Michigan before that But yeah, he was just an absolute sensation in Pewaukee. Everyone Everyone knows JJ watt. Everyone knows TJ watt. Those guys are there They're the top standard of in Pewaukee Yeah, did you did you ever think that did you ever try to go to Madison because I would have loved the Gulk in my life

team I root for They never they never really reached out. So that wasn't really, uh, that wasn't in the cards, but they don't recruit Wisconsin very well. I'm sure you know that. We need to get, we, you know, we need to get you an extra COVID year. Would you play? I just want to watch more Goukki just hitting three. I'm gonna get even more shit for how old I am. If I do one more year. No one's going to complain. Like you could,

you could play in the next three March madnesses and people would be like, awesome. More gold. Keep more Gouki going. And then, so a question, obviously the NCC game didn't, didn't go your guys way. You guys fought your asses off, went to overtime. I noticed though, obviously like it was clear that NCC was like, we cannot let this guy be open ever. Did you notice it from the jump? Like that it was totally different than the Kentucky game where Kentucky almost no shots a cow, but it felt like they didn't really understand that you could hit anything. NC State was like, there was a guy glued to you and you still scored. Yeah, it was, uh, it was definitely different from Kentucky. Kentucky was just guarding

in a different way that, um, you don't typically guard like really good shooters but NC State, they just, they said we're gonna get physical. We're gonna foul until the refs call it and I mean credit to them. They were just physical the entire game and kind of mucking things up and, and I was just trying to get loose in transition because they were doing such a good job in the half court of, of just ruining everything to be honest. So just try to get loose in half court pump pump fake, have the guys fly by. And luckily it worked a couple of times, but I wish we could have made a couple more down the stretch, obviously.

Yeah. When you did the pump fake, every pump fake. And we also had a rule in the gambling cave because we're like, you know, we were watching games for four days and I told everyone they cannot say like, you know, wet or anything like that, unless it's a Gullke shot, because I've never been more confident that NCC game you had one shot where it didn't even leave your hands and I was like good three good and it was just like I was like the only person I'll do that for is like Steph Curry and goal key. That's it. I love it. I'll take that comparison any day of the week. Do you have like a favorite thing that you say right as the ball leaves your hands? Like some people say water. Some people say butter wet WAP. I usually say like, like, why'd you let me get

that off? Oh yeah. I like that. Like why are you letting me shoot? You know better than that. Yeah. Just school. Yeah. A little school. Yeah. That's a good one. What, what, um, so are you still in school? You're not in school. Are you in school? I mean, technically, but it's tough. It's tough to lock in guys. I'm not gonna lie. I would imagine. Yeah, we, I do want to get out of one, uh, head of one thing. I might have said you, you said on Thursday night, we're not a Cinderella. I loved that. I was like, let's go. You're, you're, uh, Oakland, but Oakland's president had a Cinderella slipper in front of her. And in the heat of the moment, I might've said some things that were, you know, anger induced. So I just want to apologize to that. If you ever see her walking around and just be like,

Hey, that guy didn't mean that. He was just rooting really hard for Goukis. What about, so your coach also was a great story when you, what was the process? Cause you were at Hillsdale for four years. Then you end up going to Oakland. What was, what sold you on Oakland? Was it, was it coach? Yeah. I mean, I mean he's just had a tremendous history of guys like me that just shoot a bunch of threes. And I mean, you guys have probably heard of like Max Hooper and maybe even Travis Bader, guys that just launched threes. And he just called me and said, Hey, I want you to watch this film with me and see like what these guys have done in the past. I think it'll be a good role for you. And I just watched

it and I was like, it doesn't get much better than that. I mean, you, you guys know how it is. Like if you can just go out there and launch threes, it's, it's a, it's a good life. So it fit really well. And I was just like, I'm not going to find a better place than this. And I think we could be really successful. I had a theory that you went there because they're, they're half court logo is so big at your gym that you were like, I'm going to hit all the logo threes. No, you always got to walk. When you walk into gym and you got to look for the logos and be like, which spot is the most strategic for me to hit some logo threes where I'm really only two feet behind the

line. Yeah. I think Oakland might have maybe the number one gym in America with that. Oh yeah. We got, we got the Michigan state thing out there where you can be, you can be like one and a half feet behind the line and you're shooting a logo three and then if you're shooting from the bear, you can be like three feet. So you can get a bunch of them up for sure. I love it. That's great. All right. Well last question, rowback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. If I told you open gym, a hundred th say for let's say hypothetically it's a like high school

line and it's actually it's actually our office hundred threes how many are you making high school line honestly I'm I'm probably making more at the college line the high school oh I just haven't shot high school line in five six years okay so you could step back you shoot from wherever but how many you're making empty gym? Okay. Empty gym. I'm going to set the line at, I'd say like 78 and a half. Okay. Well, we open invite to come to Chicago and let's do that video because I mean, it's, you know, our hour and 15 drive from Milwaukee. Whenever you're back, come on down. We'll do it 78 and a half. I'm taking the over. Yeah. Probably the over on that one. I'm taking the over all day. I'm telling you, I'm making, if you're, if you want threes off the, off the move and sprinting,

I'll make 90, but okay, we'll do that. Yes. I love it. All right. So we're doing it. I actually think we could put you at one end and then put maybe, uh, like our worst player at the other end with one basketball and you would Outscore him if all that other guy had to do is just hit layups over and over Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Actually. I guarantee you I will make more threes than your worst player makes. All right We'll do a Jerry after dark. Oh, yeah You know that though, yeah You know that though. Yeah.

Oh yeah. I've never seen it all. Well Jack, thank you so much man. We really enjoyed watching you play and best of luck and we gotta have you come to the office and do a challenge. Yeah that sounds great. Thanks for having me on guys and I'm excited to come in. That'll be a lot of fun.

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And second of all, are you tired yet? Because you guys have won now seven games in 12 days. It's an incredible run. Are you tired? I'm not too tired yet. Not yet, not yet. OK. OK.

Yeah, it's been a wild run, like going back to the ACC tournament, watching you guys really play your way into form. It was awesome, watching you run through that tournament. At some point, did you feel yourself like going into the tournament? Did you know that you had it in you to make a run or did it take a little momentum? Maybe, you know, like hit a big shot against UVA to really buy in

and believe that this team can be, you know, a special team. Yeah, I definitely say we we knew we could do it, but that shot definitely sent us right over the top, man. That was the point where we knew we just needed to fight a little bit more and we were going to get it done. Yeah. And it's, I mean, it's, yeah, like the run is insane. Last night, you guys play in overtime, you play 42 minutes, 24 points, 11 rebounds. Like it's just been, it's been so much fun to watch. Do you ever find when guys go up against you, like, do they visibly, can you tell when you got them when they're so frustrated because your moves are so smooth and you're touched, like everything

you throw up at the rim goes in. Do you know when you're like, all right, I got them. They can't stop me. Oh, I wouldn't say that, but I'd say I can tell definitely when they begin to, you know, I can tell when they get frustrated because that's when they'll start to, you know, say little sleek things under their breath, like, you know, to themselves, like they try to, you know, hype themselves up. But when we're having a game like that, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to not keep going. Yeah. And I feel like you don't get the calls that you deserve. Sometimes they ref you a little bit different sometimes. And sometimes the, uh, the other team's strategy just becomes like, see if you can take a charge

from DJ. But meanwhile, they're like, they're hugging you. They're grabbing your arms. Do you have to like dial yourself back? Cause I know you get frustrated. Sometimes we don't get like the Zach Edie treatment on those whistles. Do you have to hold yourself back sometimes or do you talk to the refs and let them know like, Hey, this guy's just tackling me every time I get the ball. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I've been told by them that I'm hard to ref sometimes because of, you know, being bigger than everyone and everything like that. So I understand it. But you know, it is frustrating. I oftentimes have to catch myself getting frustrated and really back in for sure. Yeah. I got it. I got to stand up for you for one

moment in this run. I thought CBS did you dirty when they tried to give you ice cream after the game. They tried to set you up. That was wrong. I'll keep my comments to myself. Okay. I'll just say it. I'll say it was wrong. It's been like, but I know that you guys sometimes do ice cream after wins. Have you guys, I hope in the locker room, have you guys said anything to coach being like, we've made you so much money on this run? Because like I keep seeing every single win. It's like, you know, Kevin Keats gets another bonus. He gets a two year extension. Have you at least said, Hey, what we're doing for you? It's pretty nice.

Uh, no, no. Um, that man, that man, he's the one who put us all together, you know, who saw the vision of what we could be. So, you know, definitely we're thankful for him as well. It is funny though. It's literally every single game, which I, it's, it's an incredible run. I mean, the, the five games in five days. And I was reading a story that you guys were like every day coming back to the game and being like, we feel better than we did yesterday. Was that just a mentality that you were taking? Cause there's no way at some point your body has to be five games in five days. You guys are just all bought in like that. Dude, that's just, that's just the vibe around this place right now. Um, we, we don't plan

on quitting at all. And, um, we work real hard and we did treatment, the treated treatment the same way that we treat practice, you know, is very important. So I think that, um, we're taking the necessary steps to keep going. Yeah. So, so going through the ACC tournament, backing up a little bit, you know, is very important. So I think that we're taking the necessary steps to keep going. Yeah. So going through the ACC tournament backing up a little bit, you beat Duke and you beat UNC over the span of just a couple days. Can you power rank? Like what are your what's the most satisfying win? Is it beating Duke or beating UNC or maybe some other team in the ACC?

I probably say beating UNC just because we played them twice and lost twice going into that. If we played Duke twice, I feel like we, you know, we have, you know, we probably would have split that. So definitely would be say UNC because we lost to them twice. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, the three that you hit against UNC was awesome, too. Have you asked coach for more looks from the outside? Like, take a few threes every now and again?

No, no, sir. I'll play my role and if the opportunity presents, I'll take one. But I don't try to do too much outside of what I'm good at. So I try to, you know, do it, do it helps us win. I got a weird question for you, DJ, and it's something I'm actually weirdly interested in. You sell vending machines? Yeah, I have a few. I don't sell them. I just own a few. I have two of myself. That's incredible. So how did you get into that? That was just, you know, there's a guy who played at Auburn named Josh dollar. He's from

the Charlotte area. We used to train with this trainer named Gabe Blair and he phenomenal guys and I was just talking to him, you know, about some things that went through and we were just talking about what are ways to make money outside of basketball. So you're not like one dimensional as a person. And that was one of the things he showed me and I took after it. I mean that's awesome. So you have you have two active right now and you just it just makes money for you. Yeah. And I've showed a few friends how to do it as well and they take it a little more serious than I do now. What what's in your vending machines though? That's very important because like I hope it's not. Be honest. I can't eat with some of my vendors.

Okay. All right. That's a good thing. Okay. All right. Yeah. Don't get high on your own supply. Yeah, but it does. It sells well for sure. Yeah. That's smart. Do you have a big Texan cinnamon rolls in there? Nah, not right now. Although they're a moneymaker. Wait, do you switch it up? Do you like do a different menu every month? Not every month, but like, you know, every now and then I have two different vendors so depending on which one I go to they have different stuff. I mean we could do a whole interview on vending machines. I love vending machines so much. I'm interested in the snack game right now so you could also like if you

want to plug your vending machines let people know where they can find the DJ Burns vending machines and maybe people just go to just flock to them. They're just at some schools out in Charlotte, you know, stuff like that. But it's not anything too major. I don't really, I don't really, I'm not in, that's not my business for sure. That's just like some little side hustle stuff. It's smart. I like that. Yeah, it's entrepreneurial. And then the other one I had, which, you know, the internet might just lie, but do you play four different instruments?

I did play four instruments. I'm not as active in all of them anymore, just because basketball takes up most of that time now. So it's more of something that I'll do every now and then. It stayed with me from high school, but yeah, that's not really something I would do as much as it anymore. What were the four? The upright bass, the piano, the baritone saxophone and the alto saxophone.

That's a good variety too. So upright bass is that's an instrument that I would love to be able to play. Yeah. Yeah. I actually went into, um, school and they were showing me the violin and the lady, the teacher, Ms. Thompson, she was like, yo, you're going to snap that thing with your neck. Try this. And she handed me the bass and I fell in love with it. That's that's, I mean, to have to have that like wide, you know, debt or wide variety of like skills is insane. Like to be a division one basketball player going to the sweet 16 and have four instruments that you can play and also a vending machine owner.

Yeah. You might be the coolest dude in the world. Hey man, I hope to be one day man, not there yet. America's big man. That's what they're calling you right now. And I was reading your Twitter profile earlier. It says that your, your profile says Bible books and ball, the big three for sir, what's your favorite book? Oh, man, I don't really have a favorite, to be honest. I read a lot of books based on sports and then about God and stuff like

that, you know, my walk with faith. So that's mostly I I'd probably say the one I'm still, I'm rereading the Uncommon Book by Tony Dungey right now. That's one that like a little daily devotional. So, okay. Stuff like that. I set you up though. The answer was the Bible. Yeah. A hundred percent, man. But that's, that's a given. I thought you meant like, you know, in general. I got another weird question for you. I love the fact that you're a big undershirt guy I feel like the NCAA tournament every year You've always got a couple dudes that rock the big undershirts and now they're getting tighter You know the most people wearing like the compression sleeves almost you still rock the old-school undershirt

You can go back and look at like Keith Van Horn Symbol are there's just a long list of undershirt guys. Have you always been an undershirt guy? Was that a conscious decision you made? Yeah. I mean, honestly, when I used to play basketball, I wear a lot of long sleeve shirts and people would always look at me crazy for wearing long sleeves while hooping. But, um, so I just kind of stuck to the undershirt. Now I kind of get the same ones that are comfortable so I can move around in them. Yeah. What's your favorite, uh, like way to score on the court? Is it a dunk over someone, or is it like the spin move

when you get someone going the wrong way, and it's just an easy layup? I mean, again, it's so much fun watching you play, because when you have your post moves going, you just get people just turned around. I wouldn't even say I have a favorite move. I just like to react. Whatever you're going to give me is what I'm going to take,

whether that be a pass or something about, I'm not really looking to make spectacular plays, but I'm always trying to be smart with it. So I just like smart plays people who play smart. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever catch yourself? Cause every now and then when we're watching your games, they'll be like, you'll throw in like almost a football move. Do you realize that? Like sometimes you feel like you'll have the ball and you'll just kind of throw a little shoulder and you'd be like, wait, and then you, and then you'll kind of be like, all right, I'm still on the basketball court. Do you notice that? Yeah. The thing with that is I just learned that, you know, I'm going to get fouled. So sometimes

I have to, you know, use a little more muscle than I would like to have to use. But I mean, if that's what I have to do to score it and so be, you know, that's smart. Yeah. And your passing is incredible too. Is that a skill that you've worked on in the last few years? Because when I see you do like a little, like behind the back or a little like look away pass, there's nothing that I like more than a big man that can pass the ball. Oh, man. I just say that's something that God blessed me with, man. I don't know where it came from or how it got there, but I've always been able to be

a passer. I think it just has something to do with being unselfish that's always been me man. Yeah. Alright well I have one last question for you it's a row back question R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. DJ Burns who we're rooting for to hopefully get into the final four we want we want to see this journey continue. Is there I'm rooting for you to get the final four. We want, we want to see this journey continue. Uh, is there, I'm rooting for you to get to the final four because then for people who don't know, you were a third in your state in high school rankings behind Zion Williamson and John Moran. Pretty good company. I would like to see you get to the final four, something those guys didn't. So

we can be like, yeah, they were wrong. DJ burns probably should have been ranked number one. Hey man, that's, that's 100% the goal. That's what we're working towards every day, man. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's great. Yeah, I mean, the fact that that's, you know, a trivia question. That's it's cool. And you're the most fun to watch of the three. Definitely right now. Definitely the most fun to watch. Yes, by far. I appreciate that, man. That's awesome. Yeah. Thanks for joining us, man. We really appreciate your time and good luck.

Go Wolf Pack. And yeah, we're going to be pulling for you. Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling. Wolf Pack. Yes sir. Go Pack, man. DJ Burns was brought to you by Proper 12.

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where I stand. I didn't pick her PFT third. Me and PFT got to sign a team and PFT forced me to take JMU. Did I force you? That was mean of you PFT. Contrast. Did I force you? Contrast. No, no, no. I'm mad at Hank. Oh, yes. Fuck you, Hank. Cause he definitely wanted to put you piece of shit Yeah, you're telling you're you're going to pick NC State your spouting fake seriously you would have won 40k No, mmm. Did he actually know he wanted and he said it's gonna be so funny when big cat gets mad. Oh So you did pick it's fine

I made that last part of it close my circle. I my kids still like I did I made that last part of it close my circle. I my kids still like I did take out Shane was shooting and pick house like what's up Shane only person Did pick JMU like that was like I like Shane. I was a dark place I was like Shane's good that I know I still have you dude, and he's like yeah, I bet Wisconsin I was like oh bad bet That was stupid of you. I'll, I know where I stand with Hank. He's um third and might even be way lower than that I think he likes memes more. I don't know. He took me. I've been falling down the chart

He took memes off the pip. Yeah, I've been falling down the charts. It did hurt Memes catch is the most strays of anybody. Yeah, it hurts He and Max have been like getting along recently because the sixers suck Yeah, so it's like they're both lying down on this couch earlier when I walked in who that's together Like snug what sixers had a big win today they were lying down together on the couch Yeah, it's crazy That's a weird move guys strange. Oh, that's not true I was laying on the floor and he's just laying on the couch love is love by the way So the coaches picture I'm gonna write this blog after this is one in the morning. I'm fucked

I don't know why they released it on a Sunday They always release it on a Monday didn't someone say they did the date wrong by accident. Yes, it's a news dump which sucks Because yeah, I I'm fucked but give me, just something, maybe one that jumps out to you. I mean, Stefanski's posture is atrocious. Andy Reed is still a boss. Andy Reed's legs stand out to me. Belichick's usually, you know, I feel like half the time he's in it when he's in it and he was always such an alpha that it was, it was cool. So I was scanning it. And then when I finally saw Mayo, I was, I was like, oh yeah, this is this is bad

Drought male stands out and and probably not in a good way. He's wearing a t-shirt. Yeah, and he's big I Don't like the fact that they put all the all barrel chested They put all the former Redskins coaches from that team together on purpose. Oh Did they after probably loves that shit? She after probably or he probably set this whole photo up Wait, yeah, you got you got McDaniel you got Lafleur you got McVeigh you got Kyle Shanahan Then you got but who's in between McDaniel? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's someone who's that's that's a new face Who's that? It might just be the fact that Lafleur and Sean McVeigh are friends and Shanahan behind him and McDaniel right there Yeah, I think you're seeing things

because there's a guy literally sitting in between them. But who is that guy? We gotta learn. There's someone separating them. We gotta learn the new guys. I think it's the Seahawks coach. Oh yeah, McDonald. Yeah. Yep.

Yeah. And I don't like the, I already wrote a part of the blog, Dave Canales thinking he can go shorts next to Andy Reid. You fucking sucked. He got Alfie. Well, you just can't do that. You can't be, you haven't won a game next to Andy Reid you fucking suck. He got out. Yeah Well, you just can't do that. You can't be if you haven't won a game in the NFL and you went shorts. Mm-hmm. No David O'Connell needs an iron Dan Quinn and

Brian Dable next to each other look hilarious They look like the funniest either like buddy cop do of all time or we were saying they look like a team of hitmen Or outlaws or like yeah, you you said the robbers from Home Alone. Yeah, they would be the Home Alone robbers if they just like let's redo it but they're both bald. Yeah, or like a 20 like a 30th anniversary of like a wrestling high school wrestling state championship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true.

They do look like high school wrestling coaches. I got a question because I already have started looking at this one guy in between Dave Canales and what's the fucking idiot from the Saints? Dynas Allen. Yeah who's that because he looks like a weird like like church preacher like a not even a church preacher like a church camp counselor. Yeah he probably an adult church camp counselor. This guy probably had the chair turned around and he was sitting like facing you but the chairs back buddy Or let me rap at you real quick about chess. Let's talk some football. Who is that? That can't Brian Callahan. Oh Okay, respect dad's dad's an all-time football guy. Mm-hmm

And Brian oh, yeah Titans Doug Peterson looks like he's had about six eyes the six Dakarys every year He looks the most comfortable and Stefanski looks the least comfortable Yeah, I think I said it every single year But it stands every single year Doug Peterson is he looks like a swinger and I've got that all all do respect All do respect because it looks like he just enjoys life. Yeah to a certain level. It kind of looks like Stefanski is an uptight husband and then and then Peterson is like his drunk embarrassing librarian wife. Stefanski's sitting like Gerard Mayer's got his fingers up his ass. I don't know what happened and we love Stefanski, but he's gonna get it.

He's gonna have to get it. Dan Campbell looks like he's ready to fuck. Always. That dude. Fuck or fight. That dude's a fuck or fight guy. He's ready to go. That might be the whole thing Mr. Fucker fight, which one you want to do brother? I don't care We got you just you decide the hardball is next to each other. I love it. Good luck Yeah, tough for Zach Taylor to get stuck in between two former NFL players. Yeah, but you're right now. That's Hank That's a that's a tough fall from grace to see him in a t-shirt. He got surprised by the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have any classic like Matt rule Panthers year was incredible. I look back I've been doing this blog for

11 years now. Time flies. Mark Tressman was the first one. Antonio Pierce looks like a like a magician slash sex show enthusiast and he does a little bit of both Where's Antonio Pierce last top second row top left? Second row top left. Oh, yeah, I see him. Okay. Yeah, he looks like a magician that like an x-rated magician Yeah, this is gonna be fun. All right, I'll be up all night, but it'll be fun. Shane Gillis coming Wednesday All right, I'll be up all night, but it'll be fun Shane Gillis coming Wednesday Official don't worry. I feel like we've been a little transparent, but I we probably fucked up the timing Taving that right before March Madness, but yeah, that will be Wednesday and we'll talk some more sweet 16

Let's finish up the show with numbers 40 How many brace? I hope you win this one. I swear 18 what the fuck is wrong with you? I hope you win this one don't do that no I do I hope you what I hope you win all right 20 3 77 8 Hey 40 There's one up there

This doesn't count this doesn't count, but I'm curious what that was with that I'm gonna wait to know what the number is 78 78 doesn't count though doesn't count Doesn't count forty six Love you guys. I'm just a stage anyway Today's another day to finally shine it away I'll be coming for your love, okay Coming for your love, okay Take on me Take me on I'll be gone In a day or two

It won't be less to say I'm all disinclined, but I'll be stolen away Though the learning of life is okay, say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry I'll be gone in a day or two And I'm gonna dream