Pardon My Take - Mark Cuban, Catching Up On CBB & A Very Dumb Hypothetical
Episode Date: February 25, 2022We read the room a little then catch up with Jake on some college basketball and the best time of year on the horizon(00:02:17-00:25:05). We debate a very stupid hypothetical that made us all sound du...mber(00:26:16-00:39:53). Mark Cuban joins the show in studio to talk about his new business, NBA, All Star Weekend, and we pitch him a few ideas(00:39:53-01:17:09). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(01:17:09-01:37:16)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part in my take,
we got our good friend Mark Cuban back in studio.
Great interview with him.
Pitch him a couple ideas, talk a little MBA,
talk a little business.
We have a hypothetical we're gonna throw out there.
We're gonna also maybe talk with Jake back.
Congrats to Jake for being back.
Maybe checking on a little college basketball.
Firefests of the week.
And just a good Friday show for everyone.
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Today is Friday, February 25th,
and we're gonna read the room.
We gotta read the room.
Read the room.
I'm currently reading the room right now
and to be fair, we're recording this
at 3.20 in the afternoon on Thursday.
So we don't know what's gonna happen
for the rest of the day.
Two all things with love.
I'm reading the room.
PMT grit.
There it is.
It's another thing that's up in the room.
To trust the timing of your life.
Actually, I don't know why we're saying this.
I don't know if you guys saw
Annalyn McCord released a poem at Putin
so I think we're all set on Twitter.
Well, I think we can say as a podcast
that we are officially putting Putin.
I'm on my last straw with Putin.
I'm just gonna say it.
Last straw alert.
Hank is now holding up a sign that says,
keep your eyes on the stars
and your feet on the ground.
Love it.
All right, we're done reading the room.
Yeah, Putin.
Disavow.
Last straw.
Disavow.
I'm gonna go ahead and just disavow.
Just gonna get that out of the way.
Disavow.
I do, the read the room people came out on Wednesday night
when I was, I wanna talk a little college basketball, Jake.
When I was watching Providence and Xavier III,
Overtime Thriller.
And it reminded me,
we all just need to be a little bit more
like Dickie V in our lives.
Cause I wanna tell you,
I wanna read you a tweet from Dickie V
from a few years ago.
This is how you effectively read the room folks.
So obviously world, you know, war happened last night
or it's happening, started.
World War III, is that what everyone's saying?
It's World War III now.
I think there's some people that like
secretly want it to be World War II.
They're like, oh damn, I'm living through history.
Yeah, everybody has this opinion
that they're so important,
that whatever's happening is the most important thing
that's ever happened in the history of the world.
Correct.
So some people are like, yup, this is,
you know what, this is exactly like
the invasion of Poland in 1939.
Some amateur historians are saying
that completely lacking context
for all the things that are different
about what's going on right now.
Do you know what the most shocking part
about that tweet from Billy was,
if you looked at the quote tweets,
there were people were like, damn, that's so profound.
I was like, oh my God, where are we?
All from people who are in their early 20s.
And don't get me wrong.
Like, shit dude, he is right.
Listen, we are disavowing Putin.
It's fucked up what he's doing, for sure,
but you can't, there's so many things that are different.
One thing that I learned a while back
is that not everything that's bad is Hitler,
not everything that's good is Jesus.
That's true.
Some to remember.
That's true.
There's also-
Throw it on a quote board.
Yeah, throw it on a t-shirt.
Yeah, there was another quote of Billy's tweet
that was like a guy who watches nothing
but World War II movies, sees war break out,
and is like, damn, this is giving me some World War II vibes.
No, Billy's like, yo, this reminds me so much of Verdansk.
Yeah, damn.
This is-
What was it gonna say?
Me and Billy were actually playing Call of Duty
when this was happening, and he, dead serious,
he was like, dude, we're playing Warzone right now,
but like, in Ukraine, it's actually a Warzone.
Whoa.
Like this is really happening there.
As an amateur warologist, I can say,
I just, I don't know, I listened to a couple of podcasts
about college basketball, a couple of podcasts about war.
From what I can tell, like the Ukrainians,
I think they're like 65% of them said,
once there's an invasion, we're gonna just take up arms,
just like the general population.
So it's gonna be pretty messy over there for a while.
That's my analysis.
Are we doing real war talk?
That's my real war talk.
I was gonna say, the Dicky V tweet,
I don't really know how to go off real war talk.
Do you wanna put a bow on the real war talk?
I don't know.
Let me tie it back to sports.
We said we're gonna do real war talk.
Let me tie it back to sports.
So this whole thing started, in my opinion,
when Putin was appeased and coddled by Robert Kraft,
Hank's owner, when he took the Super Bowl ring from him,
and Robert Kraft didn't say shit.
He was just like, okay, so it's like baby steps.
You give a mouse a cookie, he'll ask for a glass of milk.
He was preventing World War III.
No, because Robert Kraft didn't stand up to Putin,
now Putin thinks he can take anything that he wants,
and no one's gonna say anything.
Well, PFT, let me ask you this.
Some people are saying that-
And when you have six, it's like, what's one?
What's losing one?
Yeah, some people are saying though,
if Putin was maybe six feet tall,
he wouldn't be so fucking aggro all the time.
No, I-
The history is written by a bunch of angry short dudes
trying to convince them everyone they're not short.
I agree 100%.
In fact, I tweeted that out last night.
I said, this is just another example of a short person
that shouldn't be allowed to hold office,
and all of a sudden they're in charge of a big army
with cool guns and stuff, and this is what you get.
We should, and I'm saying, we like,
if you're five foot nine or less,
you should not be in charge of a country.
Okay.
I will fully admit, like, my people-
Taking yourself out of the running.
My people have a deficiency,
and that's like, we like to try to take over the world.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Try to prove everyone that you're not so short.
Yeah, no, we should not be allowed within 50 miles
of a nuclear missile.
Yeah.
So the Dickie V tweet that I was referencing
that I think everyone should just take a page
out of his book, follow Dickie V.
It reminded me of it, it was, I can't remember when this was,
someone could do the dates on the actual things
that were happening in the world,
but he tweeted, like many, I've been following the news
involving the attacks on al-Assad bases in Iraq by Iran.
Also, I've been checking Hoop News,
and four teams should get a tip of the hat.
Rutgers, Providence, Maryland, Boston College,
they had W's over Penn State, Marquette, Ohio State,
and yes, Virginia.
That's how you do it, folks.
That's how you acknowledge the room,
and then just hop right into the good stuff.
You blend it, yeah.
Yeah, you blend it a little bit.
It's like, here, this is happening,
and now, how about that win by Rutgers?
This is why Twitter needs different rooms, I think.
Yeah.
If you want to be in the room,
that's all war talk all the time.
There should be a war room.
If you want to be in the basketball room,
you can be in the basketball room.
Yeah, I just don't, I mean, it will forever baffle me
when people are like, how have you not talked about this?
I don't fucking know what's going on.
I've not read a couple articles,
but I do not feel smart enough to talk about it.
There are other places that you could go to get
legitimate analysis.
Yes, there is one thing that I'm very concerned about,
and I just want to say this out loud.
In 2020, I had a run where I was 8-0-1 in college basketball,
and then COVID broke out and ended all sports.
I'm currently on a run of 5-0-1.
Yeah.
So if history does repeat itself, like Billy said,
1939, same as today, are we a little worried
if I win my next three?
I think you need to make a game of the world,
might end tomorrow.
But if I get to 8-0-1, I think that
how about you make the last bet you'll ever make bet?
OK.
Right.
Like a game of your lifetime.
Oh, man.
The last bet of all time.
I don't have that right now.
The end of the world bet.
The end of the world bet.
But if you lose the end of the world bet,
that's the end of the world.
No, but that just means that it's not the end of the world.
OK.
So it's like a 50-50.
You're going to win.
Heads you win, tails you still win.
Because if it's the end of the world and it actually happens
and you win the bet, guess what?
You won your last huge bet.
That was a great time.
And now the end of the world.
And now the end of the world.
But if you lose it, it just means that the end of the world
is not actually going to happen.
Yeah.
OK.
Maybe I will.
I did win my bet by guns, bet of the year yesterday.
So that felt good.
Let's talk a little college hoops.
Was that Michigan?
Yeah, Michigan.
Jake is back.
We haven't seen you in a week and a half.
Yeah, it's been a while.
I missed you guys.
I had a few weddings down in Florida.
Then we had a bench mob trip in Iowa.
I'll get my firefest later, but there was a big one.
Yeah, how'd it go?
It was a lot of fun.
It was cool to be in Big Ten Country.
Game stunk.
Iowa killed Michigan State.
Yeah, it was never a game.
Lucas Garza got his jersey retired,
so that was really cool.
Listed a bench mob on our details from that.
But it's the best time of the year.
I mean, like Ross Dean says it, like,
I'm really not going to sleep much these next two months.
Seeing Lennardy on the screen last night,
I was like, god damn it, this is it.
Like, this is when it gets really, really good.
That Xavier Providence game.
It's insane.
Providence, if you have not followed
College Basketball this year,
Providence is maybe the greatest.
And also, while admitting that they're also
have some luck on their side,
they're like a heart attack every single night,
and they also have three losses on the season.
And Coolie coach of the year.
Yeah.
Add Coolie, Mark Adams, or Texas Tech,
or Tommy Lloyd from Arizona, I think.
Tommy Lloyds.
Tommy Lloyds.
Tommy Lloyds did a good job.
I want to know.
Phil Martelly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Undefeated.
Bruce Pearl might get it too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not a buyer in Auburn.
I think Auburn's got some fatal flaws.
You want to get some round ball talk?
I'll talk round ball with you.
I think that they're scoring threats at the end of the game.
Where's, what podcast is this from?
It's not from podcasts.
Oh, okay.
I've been grinding the film.
No, I don't trust them at the end of the game.
If you're going to your fourth option
in an end of the game scenario like that,
that means that you don't have any true scoring threats
that can, like, you can't run ISO.
Who does Auburn go to?
Counterpoint, they might have the best player
in the country.
Yeah, they do.
It could be the first pick of the year.
Yes, but is he an ISO guy?
He could do it all, right?
Yeah.
He's awesome.
What was the other game that?
UConn Villanova.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was Block Charge.
I'm actually also thinking UConn might be a real team
in March.
I'm back on.
Yeah, Hurley's ejection was ridiculous.
Hurley's ejection.
For pumping up the crowd.
Jake, where do you stand?
I'm sure you've covered it on Bench Bob.
Go download Bench Bob if you haven't already.
But where do you stand on the Juwan
Howard Greg Guard saga?
I have a feeling that you might be a...
Diplomatic.
You might be a guy who's like, this is ugly.
This is an ugly scene for college basketball.
We don't need this in the game.
I mean, look, I listened to you guys the other day.
Like, it's great for the sport because people
are talking about it over anything else.
But there's a line crossed, I think.
When the head coach is the one strike,
we've seen player fights plenty of times,
at Malice at the Palace and things like that.
The coach is the one, especially at the college level,
they're the one who's supposed to be the leader,
like guiding these kids, being mentors in their life.
Not to say Juwan Howard is not that,
but you just can't have that in that spot.
Can't have it.
Were you calling for Juwan Howard to be fired?
No, I think that's way over the top.
I think the suspension is probably what I would have
expected, it's kind of hindsight.
I think if they did through the tournament,
that would have been a little excessive as well.
But yeah, it's crazy.
Michigan might make the tournament.
That'd be some redemption story.
I think they probably will, because I think they have
a little run.
They're my national champions who are picking me in the season.
What about us?
Did you have, I don't know, you didn't have Wisconsin.
No, I had them out of the bracket.
What did you think of PFT's Auburn analysis?
Are you buying Auburn?
I also just don't trust, like, I feel like they pull,
I guess their tempo isn't as fast as it's always been,
but high tempo teams, it feels like if you get in a shootout,
anything can happen, you kind of...
I just, I don't know, in the tournament,
just having the best player on the floor
just makes me more comfortable.
They're going to have that most of the time.
So I agree that they will, but I don't know,
maybe it's just me and what I prefer to watch
when I'm watching basketball, but if your best player is,
and your best score is like a catch and shoot guy,
to me, you're going to run into trouble
later on in the tournament,
especially as games close out in the...
But they have some good, like, they've got big teams.
KD Johnson's good, Walker Kessler's good.
Yeah, and I'm not saying...
Multiple options.
I'm not saying they're going to lose in the first round.
I'm just saying, I don't know if I buy Auburn
going back to the Final Four.
They are, what, top 20 in both defense and offense?
16 offense, 8 defense.
Yeah, so they have the...
If you want to do the Statner thing, they definitely have...
Yeah, they really could be undefeated in Atlantis.
They lost that maybe game of the year.
Ride the must-bust, baby.
Well, it was overtime. I'm saying like, they haven't looked bad.
Yeah, that's true.
What about San Francisco?
They're my dark horse right now.
WCC.
Yeah.
Let's hope they host Gonzaga tonight.
Yeah, they beat Gonzaga.
They do play him well.
Yeah, this spreads 10.
Gonzaga though, they have not...
I don't think they've had a single-digit game since December.
Did they say lost to Duke?
No, they lost to Alabama by 9.
But, yeah, they've throttled these teams.
So, yeah.
Oh, I had one last thing I wanted to ask you about.
College basketball.
As a Syracuse grad, at some point, are you like,
hey, Jim Bayheim, maybe let's not just like run...
For the Jimmy?
Well, they're basically running like AAU basketball with his sons.
Right.
Jimmy and...
Jimmy's actually been good.
No, but Jimmy and Buddy both are like 35-plus minutes a game.
Yeah, well, the Syracuse teams are always like that.
They're always max like a seven-man rotation.
Right, but it's just very funny to have two sons of the big men.
They're not always like that because they're both sons of the head coach.
Right.
Yeah, it's wild.
Circumstances at the Michigan State Iowa game.
First of all, Fran McAfrey, head coach of Iowa, has two sons on the team.
And Tom Izzo's son, I think, is a walk-on.
He came in at the very end.
It's a lot of wild.
Oh, I did see him come in at the end.
Yeah.
In my final being vindicated on my take, I've been squatting on for six years.
Yeah, six years, since 2016, about Tom Izzo.
You think he's a fraud?
Yeah, he's overrated.
Yeah, I mean, Rostin has the January, February, Izzo.
He has it once since 2000.
Yep, true.
But he has the final four in 2015, 2019.
I think it's one of those, like, sports arguments that depends on where you frame him.
If you're saying he's all-time great, he's definitely overrated.
If you're saying he's a really fucking good coach with an incredible, like, a lot of teams
with deep runs.
They were Syracuse.
He does not have, like, a good team since before I was there in high school, but they
made three foot 16 since then.
Right.
And the tournament is impossible.
The single elimination tournament, you can't be like, oh, they suck because they lost in
the second round.
But if you want to be considered one of the best coaches, you have to win a second.
Yeah.
That's a big thing.
I guess that.
Like, Cal needs to win a second.
He knows he does.
I almost feel like we should take Mark away from Izzo.
I don't know if Izzo has been holding up his end of the deal.
I actually think it's already been taken away from him because it feels like the tournament
starts a little later than it used to.
I mean, the championship is always in April now.
April, so yeah, he's good.
He doesn't, he has it.
He can make the final four every year and still be January, February, Izzo.
Yeah, right.
He's out before the end of March.
I still like the idea that we finally reached a point where you can kind of disingenuously
frame Tom Izzo as being extremely overrated.
It's probably not true yet, but it's a take that I just take a lot of pride and squatting
on that eventually will become true.
He just needs to coach for another like five years.
They're bad right now, too.
They've lost six of seven.
Yeah, they'll still be.
No name's good.
Oh, sorry.
It's talking about Michigan State.
It's very bad right now.
Very bad.
They're still probably going to make the tournament.
But yeah, very bad.
What about what about UCLA?
Have they not played their best basketball yet?
No, I think a lot of people are just kind of hanging on to last year in terms of the
preseason hype.
They haven't had all their guys.
Yeah, they've been banged up.
They have been banged up.
And the Pac-12, there's not a lot of opportunities to prove yourself.
Right.
They have three tournament teams.
That's it.
Unless there's a big stealer.
Well, I mean, Oregon has two big games coming up.
They play UCLA and UCLA.
UCLA and USC.
Okay.
So there could be a fourth plus a big stealer, but there's only three locks right now.
So it's kind of like with Gonzaga.
If you lose, people will talk about it.
If you win, people will just be like, eh.
All right.
Last question is good.
College basketball primer, your Big 12 champion.
Big 12 champion right now is Kansas.
Really?
Yeah.
I think Baylor lost.
I love Texas Tech.
Yep, me too.
Baylor lost a guy by the name of Jonathan Chomlechachua out for the year.
That's a big blow.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
But what about Texas Tech?
Texas Tech.
So you didn't even have Texas Tech too?
No, no, no.
No, I was just saying why Baylor was out.
I would say Texas Tech is too right now.
I like Texas Tech.
Yeah.
Right now.
Gone to head.
If Kentucky's healthy, they're winning it all.
That's good for you.
25 to one.
Yeah.
But that's maybe the only time in my life I've ever timed.
Yeah.
Tie tie.
My guy tie tie.
And severe wheeling with Georgia guys.
So, but if they're healthy, I really think they can win it all.
It would be.
I've never timed.
I think they're second.
But Heineken's aggro right now in the Barstow Sportsbook.
I'm the king of betting futures like way late and never doing anything correctly.
And I got them at 25 to 1 in December, which was actually higher than their pre-season.
I think they were 20 to 1 pre-season.
Interesting.
You had me bet the Wisconsin future at plus 4,000 and somehow now it's plus 6,000.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know how that happened.
Yeah.
People don't think Wisconsin very good.
I mean, they don't blow anyone out.
I still think that they could get to this, to sweet 16.
They got sweet 16.
I'm happy.
Kentucky's plus 700.
Second favor right now.
Wait, but what were they before the season?
That was my point.
I somehow timed it.
I've never done that.
I've never in my life been able to do that where it's like, oh, you got the best number
possible.
I'll have to find it.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kentucky's very, very good.
Very, very good.
Anything else?
College basketball?
Anything else?
Washing ball?
Let's see.
No, I'm just looking at my future.
I got Duke at plus 750.
What are they at now?
It's worse than that.
It's 1200.
It's 1200.
Plus 700.
Plus 700 favorite right now.
I got them, they're plus 1400 pre-season, so that's not even that much.
Jake, Chris Beard, try to make things work in Austin.
He got booed in Austin already.
Yeah.
Texas.
Texas.
How short is the lease with Chris Beard?
Hot seat.
I mean, if they run him out, then Texas should just stop having a program.
I think if they make it farther than Texas, second of the tournament, all will be forgotten.
Besides that one epic night and love it.
I don't think they will.
You don't think they will?
Yeah, I mean, they had a guy leave the team, Trey Mitchell.
It's tough right now.
I think Chris Beard created a monster.
Look, you're like a little Rosteen now.
You got all the names.
I think Chris Beard created a system and then he left and now it's like running too perfectly
well without him.
Now he has to play against that old system for the rest of his career at Texas.
Well, I love whenever a coach leaves a team and it's like, oh no, like all these guys
are leaving.
You have a coach that's older.
I feel like that's always a winning proposition.
Is Mark Adams?
Yeah, Mark Adams.
He was on the staff.
Right?
Yeah.
The story goes, some guys got on the plane with Chris Beard to move to Austin.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Mark Adams did not.
That's what I'm saying.
Like that's...
And he's a football guy too.
He's the guy that's like, you'll have to drag me out of here in a coffin.
I'm not leaving.
Love it, Texas.
Yeah.
Love it.
Big 10 winner.
Wisconsin.
You're just saying that now.
He also used to be an owner of a hockey team.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Purdue, I'm still waiting for them to click because they are the favorite pre-season and
they have the guys.
But yeah.
I'm pretty sure of the moment.
No, not to win.
Not to win.
I'm saying their offense is good enough to make a run.
Every year.
Pull off an ups...
Yeah.
Every year.
Right.
Exactly.
If Ruckers plays their best game, is there a team that can beat Ruckers at their best?
Well, we'll actually be there.
At home, though.
Saturday.
Wisconsin at Ruckers.
They're welcome to come if you would like, but I'm very excited for that one.
TJ asked me, our co-worker who's a Ruckers super fan, if I was nervous for the game,
I was like, no, because Wisconsin's gonna lose.
You're expecting to lose?
Yes.
Dude, Ruckers at the Rack is the fucking dream team.
It really is.
They are the original dream team.
They are the original dream team.
Ranked wins.
They're like, Jackie April.
They beat everyone.
Yeah.
Although Wisconsin has a revenge factor.
Yeah.
Wisconsin lost at home last week to Ruckers.
Oh, I'm aware.
No, I'm just saying, I think you're selling yourself short.
I think they have a better chance at this game than you think.
Not Ruckers at home.
Not Ruckers at home.
Auto bet.
I wouldn't bet it.
The crazy thing is, Ruckers at home at their best is actually the best team in the country.
It has to be against a ranked opponent.
Yeah, a good team.
What if I told you they lost to Lafayette on Monday, November 22nd?
Lafayette is 10 and 18 right now out of the Patriot League.
I'd say you know your ball.
Yeah.
You know your ball.
Jake, do you know, would you say that you have more knowledge about college basketball
than Marty Mush?
I don't know.
Yes.
Jake, don't be fake humble.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I worry about myself.
I say yes on both of these.
Yeah, Jake, don't be fake humble.
Yeah, I worry about myself.
Do my own prep.
Well, I love how Marty's recipe is just betting on massive favorites and then getting so furious
and saying that now all the good teams stink because they didn't cover a spread, which
completely turns around his entire analysis of college basketball because now he thinks
all the good teams suck just because they didn't cover like 14 and a half.
Right.
Yeah.
Or a blank team wins a big game.
A blank team is for real.
Yeah.
Well, I subscribed to that theory.
That's great.
I like statement wins.
Statement wins where you can hang your hat on it and be like, damn, Jake, that's a fucking
big win.
Yeah.
What do you think about the ongoing escalations in Russia and Ukraine?
I tweeted about Ed Cooley and I got Read the Room.
You got to just ignore the Read the Room.
I apologize to those people.
Yeah, because I've said this before and I'll say it for the millionth time.
Think about for a second what the Read the Room person is doing.
They are so like allegedly obsessed and enthralled and enthralled might not be the right word.
Think about this big global thing so much so that they're spending their time on Twitter
policing everyone else's tweets.
So they're the Read the Room people.
And again, it's Twitter.
Yeah.
Like we're not actually part of a war.
We're not in a war zone.
And the McCord did solve all of this.
If we could just tweet mean thing.
I think there was a tweet that was like everyone tweet what you think about Russia to Russia.
No, that was from Ukraine.
Ukraine official.
You did that.
Yeah.
They're fucking owning them.
Except Ukraine.
Which is ratio Russia.
By the letter of the law and the Twitter Terms of Service, Ukraine could get kicked off
Twitter for targeted harassment at Russia.
It would be the most hilarious 2022 move of all to also we learned this yesterday.
You should not call it the Ukraine.
If you truly stand with Ukraine, you call it Ukraine because the word the implies that
it's a part of Russia.
So every time you use the word the, you give up, you seed two yards of territory of Ukraine
to Vladimir Putin.
Has Florio treated out Ukraine not weak?
No.
Gift yet?
I'm sorry.
He's been thinking about it for 24 hours.
Yeah.
All right.
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By the way, we will have we have a couple NBA interviews coming up next week and the
week after.
So we'll be talking about that.
We will get biz and wit on.
You know, sometime in the next couple of weeks, talk a little hockey.
But before we do this hypothetical, are we okay to have Titus on Jake?
Yeah, absolutely.
He's awesome.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah.
They got into a little bar fight in Los Angeles, right?
That's right.
You and Titus.
Oh, me and Titus.
Yeah.
No, I showed up.
I showed up to to hang out before we did the dozen.
I got in there.
Jake was already like three beers deep, I think Titus was trying to make him slow down.
Actually fun fact that we learned at this occasion.
This isn't the funnest fact.
This is a very fun fact.
Jake, whenever he orders a beer, he simultaneously gets a water.
Nice.
Taffer.
But it's every.
It's not mixing in a water.
But it's every water with beer.
It's chasing his beer with water.
It's every beer that he gets.
I always have a water bottle with me.
At all times.
A water bottle.
Did you do it tonight that you were in that girl's ear explaining something?
Oh, yeah.
I had a bottle of pollen springs in the back pocket.
Body armor.
Oh, yeah.
Excuse me.
Body armor?
Body armor.
And a course light.
Love it.
All right.
Let's do this.
So what's the hypothetical if you could pick?
Yeah.
So it's just I got the idea because I just I saw that the Washington commanders were
targeting Carson Wentz as their quarterback.
And I thought about it.
I was like, I would rather literally have 11 Mitchell Trabiscus playing every position
than Carson Wentz at quarterback.
And then I thought like that's actually kind of a funny image to think about Mitchell
Trabiscus playing every single position.
But the team would be so much better.
Like what would be the guy that you would choose to be in all 11 positions on a team
on offense?
And then we could also do one on defense.
Oh, I was thinking it was both.
I thought I thought it was you.
You pick one guy to play every position.
We can do that too.
Also, we're we're taking out Aaron Donald from this because everyone's going to be like
Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald, Billy's now about to tell you where Aaron Donald is actually
not that strong.
No, he can't throw football.
Oh.
That literature offense confirmed.
I just sent you guys a video.
Oh, yeah, I saw it.
I saw it on cordon.
He literally can't throw football.
Yeah, true.
And also him running routes downfield.
Well, passing game.
But OK, so my question to you PFT for this, though, is are our teams going up against
each other or are they going up against a regular team?
OK, because that matters.
Yeah.
So I think the only way that we'd be able to do this is if they were all playing each
other, like everybody gets one guy.
And then we determine whose team is the best amongst us.
God, I feel like we should write down our answer.
OK, because because otherwise your pick might affect my pick.
Yeah, OK, then we just have to we just have to let the audience decide.
Write down maybe two in case we have similar ones.
I have a bunch.
OK, I wish that you could go offense and defense, because I just I love the idea of
having eleven honey badgers on defense.
Is this the clarifying person?
One person for everything, every position, every position, just all little guys just
running at everyone's knees.
It'd be funny and probably pretty good, too.
Does it have to be current?
Yes.
Played in the NFL was on a roster this year.
So you're picking Antonio Brown.
Thanks to pick Tom Brady.
Did you know what?
I was thinking about it.
Oh, I did.
I guess I'm just a bigger Tom Brady fan than you.
I guess so.
All right, Hank, go ahead.
DK Metcalf.
OK, big as fuck, fastest fuck.
So he's like, because I was going to pick Tyree kill.
That was my first thought.
But then you got to think about the offensive line.
DK is at least, you know, bigger, stronger, could could hold some of those guys off.
And he's fast as Tyree kill.
Almost. Maybe faster.
Not not quite, but he's that's actually a pretty good pick
because you do need you need size.
I've seen him kick a ball, too.
I think I think he could actually punt if you had to.
Yeah, I yeah, the Tyree kill.
I do think you could beat everyone with Tyree kill.
But it maybe these teams like maybe Tyree kill versus DK Metcalfs.
But if it's Tyree kill versus defensive linemen, I still think you could
beat him with Tyree kill because you just run around.
True. That's that's my pick.
Tyree kill. OK.
So I yeah, I was I was going back and forth.
I was like, so can I say what else I was going to pick or no?
Well, everyone pick, everyone pick, everyone pick.
Where's yours? PFT.
Debo Samuel. OK.
Because he can already do it all.
Like everything I've seen him do, he's great at.
I have no reason to believe that he couldn't do everything else great, too.
Mm hmm.
Mines, Rob Gronkowski, but like a prime Rob Gronkowski.
OK, that's a good.
Yeah, that's actually a great pick.
Jake, so George, so you're saying George.
You can't say prime.
You're saying if you're saying prime Rob Gronkowski, you're saying George Kittle.
Cam Newton.
Without a doubt would be I could I'll change mine to Cam Newton.
I don't think you can't do prime because I would have my my 100 percent
would be prime Cam Newton.
Without a doubt, I think would dominate everyone.
I would say prime Tim Tebow.
I Tebow was actually my second pick.
I mean, I said on a roster this year, but if you go like I'm fine
with you doing prime Rob Gronkowski,
if you want to do current players who are in their prime,
I'm switching mine to prime Cam Newton.
But like the thing is Cam Newton doesn't dive on fumbles.
I just don't. He doesn't know.
But now you're debating.
Big catch. We need to figure out whether or not this is prime.
The offensive line of Cam Newton might have.
Yeah, well, that's the only current players in their current form.
Yes. Well, Gronk's lost a couple of steps.
So then we'll take it all.
I'll take it all on my list.
Kittle was my number two behind Kittle was Kittle was on my list.
And Jake. I'm taking JJ Watt.
Oh, wait.
Eleven JJ Watt.
TJ Watt. OK, TJ Watt.
Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah.
Eleven is he's on the show.
He but TJ Watt is better.
Right now, yeah.
Take Derek Watt for his current form.
Yes, Derek Watt.
Derek Watt.
I should do OBJ.
What? OBJ.
OBJ.
You can throw.
You can throw and kick.
He's got one leg.
He did just have a baby.
So it's definitely scored.
The first time was OBJ.
OBJ.
First time was Super Bowl.
That's actually a good pick, though,
because he can throw everything.
And there's videos where he like spins it
and he can like fucking kick at 50 yards.
Yes.
I wish I could kick fast.
But JJ Watt.
TJ Watt.
I know, but I picked JJ Watt.
So I was thinking about it.
It's like my fucking boy.
I was thinking about it.
You obviously want size and speed,
but I do think Tyree Kill's speed would just beat everyone.
I think he would suck so bad at defense, though.
But he would just he wouldn't be able to stop him on offense.
He would just run on him and just run on him.
Yeah, he'd be a liability.
And then you just run and then you just run on them
and off it to be a shootout every game.
I think Debo could fuck it.
11 Debo's could fuck up a team of 11 Tyree Kill's.
The only thing with the Tyree.
Not on physically.
Tyree Kill's from a physical man.
From a man standpoint, though.
Again, he snapped it to the man.
But then DK Metcalfe would beat Debo Stamuels by that logic.
Correct.
If you went by that same logic.
No, I don't think so.
I think Debo, I guess that's the end of the debate.
No, that's why I picked Debo.
Think about it this way, Hank.
Like, can DK cover Debo Samuel?
Can Debo Samuel cover DK Metcalfe?
Probably more likely that he could than DK could cover Debo.
I don't know.
DK's got a significant size advantage.
Yeah, he can't turn.
He can't turn.
He can't turn sideways.
I mean, he, OK.
Are we doing, are we debating it in?
I'm saying.
Joke?
No, it's a real version.
Debo is way better going laterally than DK.
Agreed.
We can agree on that.
Yeah, but DK, like, if DK could definitely
size-wise.
Yeah, if he pressed him on the line.
Right, if we're doing wear it down, like, and I'll concede,
yeah, you'd run all over Tyree Kill.
I just think you'd snap the ball to Tyree Kill
and he'd run and then.
The thing about Tyree Kill is that a defense
for Tyree Kill, you could easily control possession
because you just run the ball every time.
But he could do the same to you, I'm saying.
By running around?
Yeah.
Like, if it was Tyree Kill versus George Kittle,
like, he would just run past George Kittle.
But what if you just engage?
It would be a shootout.
It'd be last team with the ball.
Engage eight.
He'd just run around and then throw it deep
to the other Tyree Kill who's wide open.
Here's what the problem could be with Tyree Kill,
is that if Tyree Kill's blocking for Tyree Kill,
then he's got all these Tyree Kill's running, like,
with him and slightly in front of him
and he just runs into them.
He has no true breakaways because he never
is able to get past his own, all the other Tyree
Kill's that are out there in space.
I would basically, but my point is I would run
Shark Wheel with Tyree Kill 100 times a game.
So it's just all the Tyree Kill's on the line,
fall down in front of everyone.
The quarterback Tyree Kill runs out and then
either throws it or keeps running as Tyree Kill.
I still think defense is a big liability there.
Yeah, of course it is.
He gets smoked.
The other guys I had on there were Michael Parsons.
Jonathan Taylor would be a sneaky good one
because he's got speed and size.
He's a fucking monster, like 230 and can run a four, three,
nine.
He certainly wouldn't be a bad option either.
Lamar?
He can pass.
Lamar would be a good option.
Because he could pass better than all these people.
Darius Leonard.
Imagine your whole team having diarrhea at the same time though.
Yeah, I can.
Be a nightmare on the plumbing system.
Now that I'm thinking about it though,
I think out of all of our picks,
I think actually Hank probably won.
I actually think DK might be the best pick.
Thank you.
Because of his, because the size and speed,
he has the combo that it'd be pretty hard to stop.
I'm trying to think over a course of a game,
that size and speed would be pretty impossible.
That run against the Cardinals is one of the more jaw dropping
things I've ever seen in sports.
That and Odell's catch.
I'll be honest, I didn't fully think it out on defense,
which was a mistake.
And I think DK would probably be the best defender
of everyone besides TJ Y.
He's close enough to everybody's size.
And think about the line.
DK on the line versus, you're talking about covering,
but you got Debo Samuels on the line
going against DK Metcalf or Tyree Kills.
Yeah.
But Debo's a dog.
Debo would be fine, but.
Debo's a dog.
But then Kittle's not gonna get any separation.
Right.
What do you mean?
Do you, DK Metcalf is faster than George Kittle?
I feel like Kittle gets separation though.
He might, but he's definitely.
He's not gonna have, yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe.
I mean, it's Kittle so probably, but.
Yeah, but Kittle gets separation from everyone.
True.
But do you think Kittle can get push on DK Metcalf?
I don't know what that means.
This was either the dumbest thing
or the smartest thing we've done.
I think I'm leading towards the dumb.
Yeah.
I'm leading towards the dumb.
But I still like doing it.
You know what it would be?
A shitty team would be Kirk Cousins.
I think that'd probably be the worst team.
Correct.
If it was all Kirk Cousins.
Except Cam Newton.
Cam Newton prime, I do think is the answer.
Think about how big and strong and fast he is and can throw.
Yeah.
Like he would have the one thing that you don't have any other,
well, Bo Jackson prime would be the real answer.
Isn't this just who's the best athlete in the NFL?
Kind of.
And it's a little bit different than that.
But it kind of is.
Kind of is.
It's a kind of, it kind of is.
I feel like Cam Newton wouldn't block.
It's like who's the best,
who has the highest measureables across the board?
Who's the strongest, fastest guy across the board?
It's kind of what it is.
The answer's Aaron Donald probably.
Yeah, it probably is Aaron Donald.
Although I like TJ Watt.
TJ Watt's not a bad answer
because I don't know how you'd score on a bunch of TJ Watt's.
It's like a high school coach thing to be.
I wish I had 11 of that guy.
Right.
That's like your quote.
Yeah.
I wish I had 11.
So it's Rex Burkhead's.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, that was fun.
I had fun.
Did everyone have fun?
I had fun.
Billy, you didn't have fun?
There was a little left out there.
Oh yeah?
What was it?
Give it to us.
No, no, it was fun.
There's the prime thing.
The prime Rob.
Yes.
You just really wanted to talk about that.
Prime Grock is a great answer.
I want to talk about Prime Grock.
He was a beast.
Yeah.
The hockey team, I'd take Putin's.
Yes.
All of them.
Yes.
Yes.
Putin's and Ovechkin's,
because they'd have good team chemistry.
Well, that's my fire fest.
All right.
Well, let's get to Mark Cuban.
Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend,
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It is Mark Cuban, new episode of Shark Tank.
So we're running this tomorrow.
So if you're listening to this,
new episode of Shark Tank on ABC tonight.
Tonight.
Friday night, perfect night to sit down in front of the TV,
watch a new episode of Shark Tank.
And drink heavily.
And drink heavily.
And buy all my shit.
Yes and buy every, what shit do we want to buy right now?
You got any new apps or anything that we need to buy?
Healthcare, we're gonna buy healthcare.
Healthcare, yeah, that's my thing right now.
Your drug dealer, right?
Yeah.
What's that?
Your drug dealer.
I'm a drug dealer and I'm good at it motherfuckers.
Yeah, so we created a company three and a half years ago
called Cosplus Drugs and the whole idea was just
to fuck up the whole pharmaceutical industry.
Because anybody who's ever had a prescription,
particularly for generics, man,
you just don't know what the price is going to be.
So we did a deep dive on the whole pharmaceutical thing
and basically created this company CosplusDrugs.com
where we have complete transparency.
We go to the manufacturer, buy the drugs,
mark them up 15%.
You pay $3 to the pharmacy for fill, $5 for shipping
and that's it.
And what ends up happening is,
if you don't have insurance, we saved your life.
If you do have insurance, it's cheaper than co-pays.
So right now we've got about 110 different generics
at CosplusDrugs.com.
By the end of the year, we'll have 2,000.
So if you have any type of prescription, check it out.
If we have your drug, we will save you money.
I love it.
So that's a very good thing.
Saving people money and I assume time and everything.
Well, the whole thing,
the whole pharmacy industry is just fucked up right now
because they have these things
called pharmacy benefit managers.
And what they do is they go to hospitals
and insurance companies and they say, you know what?
You pay us and we'll go out
and get you best prices on drugs.
And then they do that, right?
They go, then they go to the drug manufacturers
and they say, yo, this big insurance company,
this big hospital, we control what gets in the door, right?
We're the doorman.
And so you don't get in unless you spiff the doorman.
And so they'll buy these PBMs, we'll play doorman
and go to the drug manufacturers and say, okay,
you're gonna sell to them for a dollar or a pill.
But for every pill that I sell through or that they sell,
you're gonna give me 50 cents.
And when it ends up happening then,
now all the shit is jacked up, right?
So that's why you see all these crazy prices for drugs
when the actual manufacturing cost is nothing.
So they're the middle man.
They're the middle man.
How pissed are they?
This is like the wire and you're sucking them out.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Are they pissed?
That's exactly right.
You gotta be pissedy.
Well, we're still small, right?
We've only been shipping for a month now.
Are you Martin Screlly?
Is that what you're doing?
No, we're the anti-must.
You're the anti-must.
You're the anti-must.
Right, and that was actually part of the reason
I got into this, right?
Sure, Martin Screlly, yeah.
Yeah, because I was like,
if he could fuck it up and jack it up 750%,
I can cut him by 750%, right?
And so we just vertically integrated, right?
It's pure shark tank.
We said, okay, all these guys,
it's like going to a club, right?
The guy at the door is taking,
okay, give me a hundred bucks to get in
or you're not getting in.
That's exactly the way they work.
So we said, we're not going to do any of that stuff.
We're not going to take any of the rebates.
We're just going to mark it up 15%.
That's it.
And the drug companies actually love us
because the PBMs, the pharmacy benefit managers,
make them look bad because they get all these rebates
and they just store at the pricing and everything.
So bottom line is just,
if you have any type of prescription,
go to costplusdrugs.com, sign up.
If we don't have your drug yet
or your mom's drug or your grandma's drug or whatever,
we will soon.
I like that, though.
It sounds like it's a good thing that you're doing.
Yeah, for real.
Because there are people.
You're making enough money to float the company,
but it doesn't sound like this is a,
like, correct me if I'm wrong,
but this is not your business
that you're trying to get rich off of.
You've got other businesses.
No, I'm already rich, right?
I don't need more money, man.
This is a chance to change the game, right?
So too many people, way too many people like,
all right, do I pay my rent?
Do I pay my phone bill?
Do I eat?
Or do I get the drugs that I need to stay alive?
Or do I, like, buy my drugs?
And instead of taking the whole pill, I cut it in half.
Too many, I mean, millions of people are in that position.
And I was like, that's too fucked up.
Yeah, I mean, it sounds like a great business idea,
everything.
Is this now something that you will use
for your platform when you run for president?
No, I'm not running for fucking president.
Right now, or in the middle of two more years.
No.
But yeah, this will be good.
No, this is better, right?
Because I don't have to deal with all the bullshit, right?
I can just go and hopefully if this grows,
and we're adding thousands of customers a day,
10,000 plus on some days.
And so if this keeps on growing,
then I can extend it into other areas of healthcare.
So like, so if you go to the doctor,
or you have to go to the hospital,
instead of wanting to know,
oh fuck, how much is this shit gonna cost, right?
And being terrified,
it might not be covered under insurance,
then we'll try to find a better way to do it.
Okay, this, I mean, this is awesome, right?
Plus Drugs.com, baby.
Yeah, I love it.
I appreciate the fact that you're not running for president,
because I feel like anybody that wants to be president
is an idiot.
Or either they're an idiot,
or they're like a power hungry goon that I would not
want to be president.
That should be the test.
Like the person who wants to be president the least,
that guy should actually be president.
Look, here's the reality in America.
If you ever had fun in your life,
you cannot be president.
Yep.
I would probably disagree with that.
Well, I mean, lastly, last guy,
I was gonna say,
Obama did some, he railed some code.
Yeah, but that was pre-social media.
That was pre-social, George W Bush.
Yeah, that was all pre-social media.
I actually think it's the other way.
I think it's gonna be like,
our president in 20 years is gonna be
whoever the most famous 2,000er was.
Let me rephrase that.
If you don't want to go through all that shit
and relive it with your kids.
You will get, yes, your whole family, your friends,
everyone will go through the ringer.
I don't want, my kids are 12, 15 and 18.
No, we have our good friend, Matt Jones,
was contemplating running for a senator in Kentucky.
And he gave us a heads up.
He's like, look, if I run for senator,
like my relationship with you guys will be scrutinized.
And like, you're probably gonna go through it.
We're like, all right, that's fine.
Yeah, you guys don't care.
That's good PR, right?
You have to talk to everyone in your life.
Yeah, my 18 year old daughter, right?
She doesn't want to deal with that shit.
It's like any kids with their parents, right?
It's like, no, I want to live my fucking life.
I don't want to have to relive yours.
Is she going to Indiana?
No, I won't let her.
Oh, cause the basketball program.
Why have you, in the NIL, let's go from here
because I'm a badger.
I want Wisconsin to be, yeah, retired Jersey the other night.
I want to be a booster.
You have all the money.
Why don't you make Indiana great?
Indiana, well, it's not about money to get great.
You need to get the players right.
Well, you can use the money to get the players.
Yeah, you know, I did stuff for education.
I just don't want to make it about sports, you know?
I know, it's kind of lame in some respects, but like,
If I were an Indiana grad, I'd be so pissed at you.
No, but people are pissed at me all the time.
Oh yeah, I'd be so mad.
Indiana fans are crazy.
You know, I love them.
I am one, right?
But the thing about Indiana fans is we all think
we're basketball coaches, right?
So I get, I literally get emails all the time saying,
can you believe the out of bounds play
we ran after this time out?
Fire the motherfucker.
You put up $10 million to buy them out
because I was a sixth grade coach for my son or my daughter
and I ran better out about,
that's IU fans, right?
It's just, there's just no way to make them happy.
It's religion in Indiana.
For sure.
Yeah, that's you get the most passionate fans.
But I, yeah, I would be pissed.
So yeah, because I guess you own a team.
I feel like a lot of boosters are the class of people
who can't own a professional team.
Well, plus I'm limited to and what I can do.
Why?
Right, because as an owner of a team,
I can't just go in there and start plugging guys' money
because that's going to be a salary cap violation
at some level, right?
Yeah, how does that work though?
If it's NIL, I mean, it's basically the Wild West now
where nobody knows any of the rules.
I think it's going to be one of these things
where we figure out what was against the rules
retroactively after they're already broken.
Yep.
Are you just doing that out of like an abundance of caution?
You own a professional team.
Yeah, because-
You don't want to get tangled up in that
or is there actually like something preventing you
from doing that?
No, they're both, right?
I don't want to get in the mix of the uncertainty
because it's just not worth the grief.
And then there are rules that I can't be dealing with,
players, right?
College players or high school players.
I can't even go to high school games
without getting permission, you know?
And so there's just a whole bunch of rules.
But at the same time, I can invest in companies
that deal with NIL and that's what I've done.
I just can't target specific players
like that would help Indiana.
Right, what about the other elephant in the room?
Because I think you've talked about it a little bit.
I haven't heard much from you recently, but the NFL.
Because we're about to see an off season
and well, either this off season or next,
maybe a combination of the two,
where maybe two franchises might become available
to purchase that.
Yeah, no interest whatsoever.
None.
You don't like money?
That's not even about that.
I got money, right?
It's the emotional investment.
Yeah.
People don't understand how bad losing hurts.
You know, 82 games, if you're losing 30, 35 games,
let's say it's still a decent season,
that's a lot of me being pissed off
and driving around Dallas or wherever I am.
Because, you know, it's just the most frustrating thing ever
where, because I can't do anything.
Right.
You know, whatever we do, we do in the off season
and then once that ball goes up
and they play the 48 minutes,
there ain't shit that I can do.
And so it's painful.
Winning is fun, but losing is far more painful.
Yeah, I could see that.
I do want, I have a complicated question about the NBA
I would like to get your thoughts on.
Sure.
In terms of like player empowerment,
I know that, you know, the NBA is healthy
if you look at streaming and all these things,
but in terms of the average fan,
like enjoyment of the NBA,
do you think you're in a good spot right now?
I think we're in a great spot.
You do.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. 100%.
Not even close.
So you've got to look at it generationally, right?
Just like when you were a kid, shit has changed, right?
Because like when we were growing up,
every household had teams, right?
Because you just watched the game on Sunday afternoons
or whatever games were on, hockey, basketball,
whatever city you were in.
And it was kind of like, okay, that's what you did, right?
There were three channels, if you're old enough,
then there was cable and then there weren't a lot of choices.
Now there's just an unlimited number of media choices.
And so kids, Gen Z in particular consumes media
completely different.
Like my kids, it's TikTok.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
But they're watching basketball.
My son in particular is watching basketball highlights
nonstop.
Because TikTok just feeds that shit to you completely.
So the MBA's problem isn't so much that, you know,
our ratings aren't as good as the NFL or this or that.
It's how can we TikTok a size,
how people consume the equivalent of TV ratings, right?
Like how can you measure TikTok views and things like that?
Yeah, we can measure it to a certain extent,
but we can't deliver them the same way.
Like I can't tell you which company
I invested in this company.
And the whole idea is that we'll be able to take
real time feeds from different games at the same time,
run them through AI, and if you're a Luca fan,
you're just gonna get highlights when Luca has the ball.
If he's not in the game, you don't care, watch.
But if you're also a Steph Curry fan,
so if the Warriors and the Mavs have games
at the same time, the AI will just feed you
the highlights you like in 30 second bits.
Okay, here's an idea.
You just gave me an idea.
Maybe we can workshop this.
It's like Red Zone, but it's just whenever Luca has the ball.
So in real time, in real time, it gets bad to you.
So it's not even just a highlight.
It's just like you get alert on your phone,
Luca's touching the ball right now.
It's a TikTok version.
It's like J.F. Harden never stops.
It's like JFK's flame.
Yeah, it's like a TikTok version of Robinson.
You get it by the time you open it up,
he's already shot the ball.
Right, right.
It's a TikTok version of Red Zone.
But whatever you like, it uses artificial intelligence
to figure out the stuff you like.
Like if you're only about dunks,
if you're only about three pointers,
if you're only about blocks, whatever it is,
or if you're just about one player,
if you're just about Luca, right?
And you're gonna see, and Luca's not in the game,
you might get a Luca interview,
as opposed to even the game itself.
But if we can package all that and get enough numbers,
which I think we can,
because that's where the trends are going, then it works.
So I agree with you, like in terms of a star league,
like the stars, some of the young players are so insane,
and it's like the level of play
is off the charts the end game right now.
Incredible.
I do think, and I'll throw these out there,
because this isn't like how I feel,
I just know that some people do feel like this,
because I love the NBA, and I watch,
I don't watch every single team, I watch the Bulls,
and I'll watch a Luca or whatever's on ESPN
on a Friday night.
But like, for instance, the Dunk Contest,
I know it's not a big deal.
It was lame.
But it does feel like the stars
don't care as much about the fans.
Like that to me is like, hey, fans are investing in this,
why isn't anyone want to like step up to the plate?
Or I know there was the conversation
about the locker room access that Adam Silverhead,
and it's like the players don't want reporters
in the locker room.
I think they should be in the locker room,
because we get stuff on a day-to-day basis
from beat reporters,
and we make fun of beat reporters sometimes,
but it's like they get in tune with a team,
unlike any other regular fan who watches on TV.
Like that kind of stuff where it's like the players,
no, I get what you're saying, right?
And they don't really care about the fans or, you know,
obviously the whole rest and like load management stuff,
but there is some truth behind,
like on a Friday night, if you're sitting down
and there's the nationally televised game,
and it's like none of the stars are playing,
it's like, what the fuck are we doing?
No, I can't argue with you, right?
And I think what's changed is,
players have control of their platform,
just like you guys have control of your platform.
I can walk in here as a reporter and say,
okay, let's talk about part of my take,
and there's things you're not gonna say
because you have your platform to communicate those things,
right?
And so that's the big difference versus even five years ago,
six years ago, because a 22 year old kid today,
a 20 year old kid grew up on Instagram,
now knows and is part of TikTok
or has a YouTube channel, right?
And so they already have it,
so they wanna save some of the shit for themselves.
And I think that's part of the issue,
whereas with the NFL, you know,
you take a team of 53 players,
you're gonna know two by sight, right?
And only two of them are gonna have
more than 10,000 followers on any of their social media
platforms, right?
And so guys wanna control their own brand as part of it.
Now that said, you gotta find that balance, right?
That's the hard part, and that's what Adam
and the owners and all that shit,
we'll work on trying to find.
Cause you're right, right?
The more access we give fans,
the better the product's going to be.
Absolutely.
There's also that line, I think,
as fans, you don't know where it is,
but you can kinda sense when it becomes,
you realize like, oh,
they don't really care as much about this
as I do as a fan,
and I'm spending all my time worrying about it.
Now I'm not saying this is like every player,
but I'm saying that like,
there is a line that you would get to at some point
where the fans are like,
if I have more enthusiasm about this,
if I care so much more about them than they do about me,
why am I spending all my money?
I don't know so much, go ahead.
Well, I was gonna say, I agree with that,
but I'm kinda making a little bit of a different point.
It's more like the health of the league,
not like specific teams.
I'm not worried about the health of the league at all.
But in terms of fan,
there's a point where,
and I think the problem with everything now
is that the argument just gets split and pushed to the side,
so it's people mocking the load management,
being like, who cares?
And people being like,
I'll never watch the NBA again if it's a load manager.
I think there's a lot of fans like me,
who are like, on a Friday night,
if Luke is not playing,
because he just wanna play,
I'm like, what the fuck, this sucks.
And the-
But we do have rules, right?
Where it's like, hey,
if you're able to play and it's a TV game,
you gotta play.
But then on the flip side,
if Luca plays a game that doesn't make as much,
or any star, right,
and it's not as important a game,
and he gets hurt,
and then like, you dumb ass motherfucker,
you should've saved him for the playoffs.
You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
But I get your point, right?
Where you're talking about, look,
are the guys as committed to the fans
as the fans are committed to the league?
Right.
And I think they are, right?
But I think the hard part for the league
is to try to find that balance, right?
Because we want the stars to be as big as possible.
Because the reality is fans are following the stars,
the players, more than they're following the teams.
All right, so tough question.
Sure.
Do you think Adam Silver's a little too pro player at times?
Because I saw the locker room talk
that he did with his address.
And I saw the anecdote pass around
that when David Stern said that in 2007,
they're gonna do the locker room access,
Scott Skiles, coach of the Bulls,
stood up and was like, that's our sacred place.
And David Stern was like, oh, geez,
what should I think about $8 billion in our broadcasters
or Scott fucking Skiles?
Literally said that to him.
Yeah.
And it's like, that's the point of-
But that was a different era too.
Right, so yeah, that might be the answer that the buildup
is different than it is now.
So here's what you guys don't see, right?
At halftime, dudes are on social media.
So there's that period where a guy walks in at halftime,
takes off his jersey, puts on a clean jersey,
so you're not carrying that sweat heaviness.
And the coaches are in their coach's locker room
and they're revisiting what they wanna say
and the adjustments they wanna make.
Cause you can't do that in real time during the game.
So the coaches take the 15 minutes at halftime,
the coaches take three to five minutes.
During that three, five minutes,
guys are like, off comes the jersey, check my phone, right?
So they're communicating, most of them won't,
it's pretty much against player rules, right?
The unwritten rules to tweet or do anything during that time.
But they're checking just to see how things are going.
That connection is that strong, right?
So the players have such a strong connection to the fans.
So if you may be a huge Mavs or Bulls fans or whatever,
but if you're connecting to Luke and the team,
you're on social media and we're communicating
with you continuously.
Sometimes where you get that disconnect is where fans,
maybe a little bit older or not, social media literate,
but anybody under the age of 50 for the most part now,
they're on their phone while the game is on anyways.
No, that's true.
And so players are connecting more often.
Like in the David Stern era,
there is no player that was connecting personally
and directly with fans as much as you do today.
Right.
Yeah, no, and I don't have the answer to this.
It's more like, I don't see a lot of people
actually having an honest conversation about it.
Because again, it becomes a meme where it's like,
if you don't, if you criticize this,
you're basically like saying,
oh, the NBA sucks now.
I want the 80s and 90s.
I don't look at it.
Yeah, I don't look at that way at all.
No, it's legit.
I use this great product right now
minus the end of games,
which the reviews are just terrible.
You agree with that.
Which reviews?
The, you actually have created this
because you complained about the ref so much.
Now we have to do an instant replay for everything.
No, they changed it.
The last two minutes, you only get,
the out of bounds aren't reviewed anymore.
But it still takes forever.
No, it's like got cut by like nine minutes.
The out of bounds stuff was the real tough one.
That was the real tough one.
When they would zoom in on like a finger tip
and see if the ball rotated at the last second.
Yeah, I know.
But to me, I was worried about that when we got rid of it
because of all the gambling coming into play now.
True.
Right, because I was worried
that we were going to cost somebody a shitload of money
because we didn't check the out of bounds play.
But I got out of voted.
But listen, I mean, gamblers aren't irrational,
so that's not, no one was worried about that.
If you said, I'm all in on this, right?
Yeah, they're not irrational at all.
I would go for you hard.
Yeah, no, but what you're saying is you were thinking
of the gambling in this situation.
Thank you for your service.
I appreciate that.
Now, what about the other owners in the league?
How do you feel like you're one of the more popular guys
amongst the ownership?
We're not that close.
Really?
No, it's not like.
You guys don't hang out?
No, no, there's some of them I'm more friendly with
than others, right?
But they do their thing.
I do my thing.
We're competitive.
Like I'm friends with them,
but it's like rare that I just go,
hey, what's going on, man?
What are you doing?
What percentage of the owners do you think actually
care about their teams as a fan,
as opposed to which ones look at their teams
as a business at the moment?
I think they all do at some level,
because you have to,
but some of them put more of an emphasis on business
than anything else.
And I'm not gonna throw any of them under the bus,
but yeah, there's definitely ones,
because I like that.
The more guys who are more,
not just guys and more,
but the more owners, governors, ownership groups
that care cash first,
that's an opportunity for me,
hopefully to get some players
because they're trying to cut their payroll or whatever.
And so yeah, I'm fine with it.
So you said this earlier,
but you said you've got enough money
and now you're talking about like you'd rather win
than optimize profit necessarily as a governor.
At what point did you say like,
hey, I've got enough money
because I feel like most billionaires,
they never reached that point in life
where they're like, okay, I'm good now.
I mean, like when I,
the day became a billionaire,
it was like, how much fucking money do you need?
Like when we sold to Yahoo for stock,
there were a lot of people who just took that stock
and like, let's just hope it keeps on going up.
I did this thing called a collar
where I protected my downside.
I'm like, I got a B next to my name.
I mean, oh my fucking God,
how did that even happen?
Right? It's just like, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Don't take it for granted, but don't fuck it up.
Are you saying that just because now it's become popular
to say like, eat the rich?
No, I've been saying that since day one.
All right, that was a good test.
I don't care about that shit.
Do you get a little bit scared
when people say eat the rich or you're like, fuck.
I don't taste very good.
Yeah, I mean, maybe a little bit of a pineapple taste,
you know, the minute of what I am.
This is exactly what a good tasting rich person would say.
Yeah, like, oh, don't, I haven't marbled at all.
You're like one of those frogs that is like careful
on poisonous, but in reality, it's just all bullshit.
You know what? I've been poor.
And if you were to ask me when I was sleeping
on the floor fucked up with nothing,
I mean, my first car in Dallas after my Fiat broke down,
literally my first car that I was able
to make payments on was a car I saw
on the side of the road.
And I knew that car had been abandoned
because it wasn't fucked up in any way.
I went in there, I had my buddy stop the car,
went in there and I found the bank papers
because it was an abandoned car.
Called the bank and said, look, I just found this car
that someone abandoned.
Will you let me take over the payments?
That's how fucked up my financial life was.
So if you would have told me back then,
you're gonna be worth more than a billion dollars
and some people are gonna be out there
talking about eat the rich.
I would have been like, take a finger, right?
Take a hand, right, whatever.
We'll risk that when it comes to it.
I'll take my chances, yeah.
All right, so you were in Cleveland for the All-Star Kid.
I love the ceremony, the 75, 75th anniversary.
What's the one guy, I know you've been around
all these guys a lot, but who's the one guy
that when you see it still is like, oh, this is awesome.
Or maybe best stories, you know.
Dr. J.
Yeah?
Dr. J, because when I was a little kid growing up
in Pittsburgh, I literally snuck into the Civic Arena
when they were filming the fish that saved Pittsburgh
just to see Dr. J.
That was my guy.
So when I see him, that's like, I still get, you know,
fangirling.
Yeah, and I do, it was really cool to watch everyone
because I do think the NBA has like a brotherhood
and like a camaraderie through the years
unlike any other league where the guys like go at,
you know, because they go at each other
throughout their entire careers.
Yeah, I mean, plus there's, you know,
five guys on the court at a time.
Right.
Every other sport, you know, you know,
at least the teams, the teams are bigger, right?
So there's a personal connection between all of them.
And at any point in time, put aside the two ways,
there's only 450 guys.
Right.
Out of all the people who play basketball,
every kid who's ever dreamed,
there's only 450 guys in the NBA at one time,
which is insane.
It's just such a small club.
Yeah.
I feel like they've, the players have done a good job.
And this probably contributes a lot to the player
empowerment that we're seeing right now,
but players from way back in the day,
they teach the next guys like,
here's how they're going to try to get it over on you.
Here's how you optimize what you're doing.
Because a lot of players in the, you know,
70s, 80s, 90s, even early 2000s, they were getting hosed.
They weren't making enough money.
And so they're kind of looking out for the next generation,
which I think has brought us to this place here.
So maybe when I'm saying like that,
it's not the players caring as much as the fans do.
I think there's been definitely like a shift
in the pendulum of the players recognizing their value
and then optimizing all that.
Just looking at social media, right?
Of all entertainment, right?
Basketball players, our top basketball players
have influence like you would not believe.
Basketball players, you know,
and for better or worse sometimes,
but you know, even guys that are 15th on the roster
because of 2K, because of social media,
they're, you know, because of where they went to college,
if they went to college, they have a following
that's more than the athletes in almost any other sport.
And do you think that they're happier now
than they were 10 years ago, 15 years ago?
Because we see all the negative stuff
and it's been like a running joke on this.
You're like, NBA is the least happy group of millionaires
in their 20s on the planet.
Because everyone, a lot of the superstars, you know,
are either eating their way out of town
or they're complaining about something.
They're not showing up for a season like Ben Simmons did,
but that might not be the case.
It might be, you have a better perspective than we do,
but from our angle, we see just like a lot of unhappiness
amongst the superstars of the game, which is unusual.
Yeah, I mean, Gen Z is different.
Just far, far different.
Coaching them is different.
Dealing with them is different.
And I think they're happier because, you know,
to be in the NBA, 99% of the guys
were stars their entire lives.
And so they've been in the spotlight on social media
since they were 12, 13, 14 years old.
And so they've learned how to relate.
They've learned how to come along.
And they're also more mental health aware.
They're not just like, oh, don't be a pussy, right?
It's like, get yourself some help, right?
I'm with you, bro.
Let me show you some love.
Let's talk about this.
Let's connect, you know, like I saw a highlight.
It was Tyrese Maxie, and I forget who was talking to.
And it was in one of the events, right?
And he was like, bro, I'm gonna give you a hug.
He goes, I don't need a hug.
He goes, yeah, you just wait.
I'm gonna give you a hug, right?
And, you know, you never, right?
No, I'm sure.
20 years ago, that kind of conversation,
you would have been called out
and you would have been embarrassed somehow,
just the way players connect together.
Now, a 40 year old, 35 year old player
doesn't have that same connection,
but they follow each other on social media.
That, you know, guys who used to play for your team
are still liking their former teammates
and all their posts.
You know, so there's just little things like that
where you can send, you know,
a like on Instagram is like a hug, you know?
And it's just like, okay, bro, you know,
you posted this, your kid, your boyfriend,
your girlfriend, whatever,
and I'm gonna just give you a like.
Yeah.
I got a headline grab.
What is the financial,
what will the financial impact of getting,
drafting Brawny Jr. and getting LeBron
for his last season in the NBA B?
I don't even know.
You know, you know.
I really don't.
I really really don't.
You have no one who's run the numbers?
No one who's run the numbers, right?
Cause it's impossible to predict.
How, you know, that's,
I don't even know how many years from now,
three, four, whatever it is years from now.
Nice, you're just pretending to not know anything about this.
No, I don't know.
How old is Brawny?
He's a junior in high school.
Okay, so it could be three years from now.
Correct.
I mean, it wouldn't suck.
Let's put it that way.
It wouldn't suck.
Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a great-
But I'd rather win, but I'd rather win, right?
It's a great move by LeBron.
Cause it, it was like when you actually outed it up.
It was super dumb.
It was super dumb.
Someone's gonna probably draft him a little bit higher now
because you get LeBron for his farewell season.
Or maybe two or three or four.
Or maybe two or three, yeah.
Interesting.
So future Dallas Maverick, okay.
That makes sense.
What's, we have a couple of ideas to pitch you,
but last basketball question before that.
What is success this year for the MAPs?
Competing for a championship.
For real.
So that's not, are you, are you, are you contenders?
Are you officially contenders?
I think we are, for sure.
I mean, you know, it takes time to adjust to a new coach.
So we had to go from the Rick Carlisle error
to the Jason Kidd error.
And you can just see the improvement
over the course of the season.
I mean, we're 18 and six over our last 24 games.
And, you know, our defense is top three over that period.
And our offense is top 10.
And if you're a top 10 offense and a top five defense,
you have a chance to compete for a title.
And in, in, in, um, Luca, I've, you know,
I give Luca so much credit.
The adjustments he's made, how he's learned
and how he continues just to get better.
Well, that was one of my first ideas.
I know PFT has a couple, but my first idea was
you should just install funhouse mirrors
in the Mavs practice facility because it's clear that
if you can just get Luca to think that he's overweight,
he's gonna try a lot harder.
No, that's not it.
That is it.
You said it yourself.
No, that's not what I said.
Like he was a fat ass.
Now he's skinny and he's awesome.
You said he heard the criticism.
Yeah.
I'd like to thank us for joining in to that criticism.
No, Luca's a big boy.
I'm not, don't mean that.
I mean, in other words, he's matured.
Right?
Like any other big boy, real big boy.
Yeah.
Very big boy.
Our large son.
Luca is smart.
People don't realize how fucking smart he is, man.
He loves coffee.
Yeah.
I know how smart he is.
You know, and so he's figured it out.
And it just takes time sometimes.
Um, but the guy's figured it out.
I love him to, I give him so much credit.
I mean, he takes on every challenge you put in front of him.
He's a good dude.
He's great to talk to.
He's great to be around.
He, you know, he's got all the intangibles and, you know,
he's just put it all together and it shows
and how he's playing.
I'm proud of the guy.
I mean, I'm really proud of Luca because, you know,
he took a lot of grief and he just said, you know what?
Fuck him.
I'm going to get it done.
And he has.
There is a, like you can see it in a lot of guys' career arcs
where that like second, third, fourth year
where they realize, oh, and LeBron's kind of given a good path
for everyone, like, oh, my body like is a enormous investment
that I have to put a lot of money and time into.
And it's not, you know, going up.
Cause when you're 18, 19 years old,
you never have to think about that, you know?
But, you know, you play 82 games and you start to feel it.
And guys learn over time.
Like when we got to, when I got to the MAFs,
Dirk was eating Snickers bars and, you know, corn chips
all day, every day for dinner and you just couldn't do that.
Right.
And, but it took him time to realize that and he did.
And, you know, Luca, every superstar goes through
the same thing.
Think about the Fun House near or so.
You could do it.
I mean, it took you a while to win a title.
Did it not?
Did it not?
Think about it.
Think about it.
That you remember.
You're still thinking about, think about it.
I'm still thinking about thinking about it.
Yeah.
Every time I hear someone say, think about it.
I think about it.
That's money in my.
Yeah.
That should be money in my pocket.
Every time.
Before I get out here, I want to make you some money
because I know that you're rich.
You don't care if you make any more money,
but this will give you the opportunity to lose money
on all sorts of other good stuff for mankind.
Done.
Just by investing in these products.
Okay.
You're a busy man.
I'll be very brief.
First question.
Do you smoke pot?
No.
Have you ever smoked pot?
Yeah.
Do you agree that pot is getting too good?
I haven't smoked in a long time.
Okay.
Well, let me get you up to speed on what's going on
with Gen Z pot because the weed now is so much more potent
than it was 10, 15 years ago.
I'm not even talking like when I was growing up,
people were like, oh, your parents weed was nothing
compared to this weed.
The weed I was smoking when I was growing up is...
Well, now it's all science, right?
It's all called to say to be a science.
It's too good.
And there's a very large market out there of people
who are my age, maybe a little bit older,
that just want to smoke average weed.
Right.
Just average.
Just like, give me something that I can smoke.
I can still go out to dinner.
I can still function.
So you can't go to the dispensary
and there's not old school shit?
No.
The old school shit is that they say is old school shit.
We'll still like, I'll take two puffs of it.
30 minutes later, I'll need to like take a cold shower
and lie down in bed with all the lights on.
That's not a drug guy, by the way.
Let me just say, back in the day,
I probably smoked pot three, four times, right?
Oh, wow, crazy, Mark.
No, because I was one of those dudes that would be insane,
right?
I mean, I literally remember running a head first
into an open closet door, right?
There you go.
I was just, I was a mess.
Listen, so this is exactly for people like you
and me that want just weed that you can chill out on.
It's called bad weed.
Bad is the brand name.
Right.
I like it.
Bad weed, we go after that market
that's untapped right now.
It's not actually bad, but it's just not super good.
Yeah, it's like you don't always need 151 rum.
Exactly, right?
Exactly.
Sometimes, you know, a spritzer is gonna get you
just enough of a buzz.
Yeah, and just off the top of my head right now,
we could even have a Cuban cigar, right?
I like it.
It's actually a good idea.
It's actually a good idea.
Okay, what's up?
Mom, dad, I don't smoke the really intense shit.
I smoke the bad weed.
I smoke the bad shit, it gives me a headache.
I smoke bad weed.
Right, Johnny, you're only 14.
Oh, maybe it's a smoke headache and then I go buy Advil
from Mark's Over the Counter pill program.
No, we don't do over the counter.
Oh, okay.
It's cost plus drugs, I know you are.
That's idea number one, that sounds,
I thought about it.
That sounds like a winner.
I've been taught to quit while I'm ahead,
but I'm also an idiot.
So I came up with this idea,
Hank and I did a little brainstorming over the weekend
because we both got back from vacations.
We flew back, right?
And I don't know if this is the case for you
on your private chats,
but when I fly, I get bad gas.
I get really bloated.
No matter what I eat beforehand,
no matter what I'm doing,
I get very-
And that's a bad thing?
Yes, very, very bad thing.
Because it's super uncomfortable.
The farts don't smell on the plane,
but it's still, I can't fart on an airplane
because it's bad manners.
So I just spend the next three hours feeling awful
until I land.
Then I land, I'm able to finally fart, feel great.
But I came up with this idea,
I've got a prototype here.
It's called fart pants.
So I made a proof of concept,
they're jeans and I velcroed this eggshell lining,
sound editing lining.
So I can put it on and I'll try to fart for you.
And I bet you won't be able to see it.
You gonna fart?
I don't know.
I don't know if I have to or not.
Let me just tell you,
if you just did like a gag fart insert
for like kids to give,
or parents to give their kids a vice versa
to put in your pants,
that just hooked on like the inside.
Like a fart machine?
No, no, like a fart dollar, right?
Or a fart killer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I've got the eggshell,
you can't even tell that I'm wearing it.
It does wonders for your ass, right?
And it's just that these jeans
were the only ones I had,
it's not that they don't have to be Jinkos,
but it helps.
Wait, you got to do it in the mic, dude.
Oh, you're gonna squeeze one out on the chair?
Did you hear it?
Oh, the little, he doesn't have his headphones on.
It was very, it was silenced.
He didn't hear it, it was silenced.
There was a little pop, I noticed a little pop.
So you can call them SBD jeans?
SBD jeans.
So this is the basic concept.
Maybe we can just stick to the bad week
because it seems like you were much more enthusiastic
about that.
Yeah, but you know what?
Just as a gag gift to do like fart killer inserts
for your dad's jeans, to get them as a Christmas dinner,
birthday gift.
You might be able to start there
and then people will be like, oh, these actually work.
There you go.
It would be like in the gag, such as Spencer's Gifts.
Two for two, let's go.
I'm like beautiful.
Wait, you say no to the Funhouse mirrors?
Yeah, I'm saying no to the Funhouse mirrors.
The only one I had was I just,
I think they should have an option
when you go out to dinner, when you're deciding,
you know that moment when you want to eat past full?
That you could get an oversized sweatshirt
with your order as well.
The one tiny mint moment?
Yeah, right.
Remember that from Money Python?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I can't eat another thing.
Yes, yes, the one tiny mint.
But yeah, you should just be offered
an extra large sweatshirt with the restaurant's name on it.
Right?
Because then you get branding
and now you can keep eating.
So we all win.
And you get free sweatshirts.
But you're gonna be the one guy,
hey, he's got the stuff himself t-shirt on
or the stuff so stuff.
No, well maybe, yeah.
But that's almost like a thing of respect.
Yeah, it is.
So move the stuff to your like.
It should actually.
This man knows how to eat.
Yeah, just say clean plate club.
Yeah, all right.
There you go.
Gourmand, ain't it?
Yeah, not buying it.
Gourmand is just a sweet way to be like,
I love eating food all the time.
I can't stop.
Who doesn't though?
So I think you're just gonna buy it.
So how much money are you gonna give us now?
For all these ideas.
Think about it.
I'll think about it.
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All right, let's finish up with Firefest.
Hank, Firefest of the week?
I just had a brutal flight experience I want to talk about.
Okay, oh.
No, I'm just kidding.
I did, I sat in the middle
and then we sat in the tarmac for like 20 minutes
and then we were landing in New York.
We were early, so we had to do a couple of loops.
It was really, really tough.
That is thoughts and purse.
But besides that, I have multiple Firefest,
if that's all right.
Yes, go off, Kate.
Jake Mansplained Sports Broadcasting to me last night.
Nice.
And dunked on me on the timeline.
Nice.
I feel like it's like a run.
Wasn't the intention.
I was very excited about the call.
Can we get the exchange?
It's around the year anniversary
of Best in the Office, best one here.
And I was having nightmares last night thinking about it.
What was the call, yeah.
In the Providence game,
they had a deep three in triple overtime,
kind of a dagger three.
The announcer said,
it's from Pawtucket.
Yup.
It was deep.
And all I tweeted was,
all caps from Pawtucket is an absolute bar.
Like it was a great line, great reference,
you know, Providence, whatever.
Jake replied to me and said,
he hit that one from Insert Nearby City
on a deep three is a popular call,
but it plays, especially in a moment like this.
Jake.
It wasn't, okay.
I understand why it feels that way.
It feels that way and you have the right to.
It was not.
I was just very excited.
Oh, thank you for giving me the right.
It was like, Jake.
Plus there's a new house guy.
So it always Andrew Callow makes it exciting.
Was it geographically correct?
I think you're actually more of the guy to ask for that.
No, no, I'm saying the orientation of the arena
and where he shot it.
Oh, it was a deep three.
No, but where, like, if he's shooting west to east,
yeah, he's shooting south and Pawtucket is east,
that was wrong.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm gonna look at it real quick.
Let's see.
I'm gonna, I don't know, are you gonna figure this out?
Well, I'm gonna look where the Dunkin Donuts,
well, shit, I don't know which side he was shooting on.
Right.
It was on the right side of the court, I believe.
The right side of the court?
From the broadcast view, it doesn't really mean much.
I'm gonna tap out for a second.
Just try to do some research here.
Yeah, but I apologize.
This is no, I had no chance.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, go, all right.
What's your other ones?
That was it.
I thought you said multiple.
Well, the plane.
Oh, yeah, the plane.
Yeah, that was a tough one.
Yeah.
What did you do?
Like three.
Like the estimated time of arrival was like five minutes,
five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, five minutes,
five minutes.
It was really hard.
Traveling is just brutal.
All right, PFT.
Wait, can we pause for a second?
I wanna really try to figure this out real quick.
Give me two seconds.
All right, map images.
And we wanna help.
From Pawtucket.
I just don't know where in the overhead view,
like which side it would be on.
Well, where's Pawtucket?
Pawtucket, where were they playing?
Providence.
Providence, okay.
So Pawtucket.
So Pawtucket, all right, so it's kind of,
oh, well, no, we could, we could think.
It's north.
Wait, is Pawtucket straight north?
Oh, no.
Yes.
He, no matter what, he didn't get it.
Right.
Nope.
Wrong.
He got it wrong.
Straight up.
Because if you look at the orientation
of the Dunkin Donuts arena,
Pawtucket would be like a corner three.
So he was wrong.
Now, is that the same thing?
Wait, wait, wait.
Is that the same thing as the Schneider arena?
I don't know.
It's called the Dunkin Donuts Center.
Well, because.
It's the Dunk.
It's the Dunk.
It's the Dunk.
It's the Dunk.
Because it says the Providence plays at the Schneider arena.
No, they, well, they play at the Dunkin Donuts.
Well, they have a smaller facility too.
I don't think they play every game at the Dunk, yeah.
Okay, just wanted to make sure.
He had to have said North Providence
or East Providence to be correct.
That doesn't hit the same.
Well, I'm just telling you.
No, Pawtucket's just a cool name.
I'm just telling you,
if you wanted to actually do this correctly,
like I would absolutely, if I were a broadcaster,
I'd be like, all right, where is,
which way are we facing?
Which makes sense.
Yeah, that's why,
that's why Marv started to save from downtown.
Right.
Because he would do it when they were oriented
in that direction where downtown would actually be
where the three-pointer was coming from.
Yes.
That's why he's one of the goats.
Yes.
Separate the art from the artist.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Peter, your.
Firefest.
Firefest is that people are starting to ask
a lot of questions about Alexander Ovechkin.
My goat.
Why?
I don't know.
This media's got a hard on for him.
It's depressing seeing them attack my sweet boy.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Did he ever, he never had like a website
being like vote for Putin?
Well, the entire relationship with Ovechkin and Putin,
it's like us and Josh Allen.
Yeah, he built a website for him,
but he's responsible for every single thing that he does.
Actually, yeah, we do take a lot of credit.
A lot of credit.
Money from Josh Allen's contract.
Yeah, I'm at the point where,
I don't know, I'm struggling mightily
to find a spin zone for this.
I don't, can I give you a spin zone on the spin zone?
What I've got is, I don't think I have to have
a spin zone for it.
That's correct.
Because he's Alex Ovechkin and I'm me.
Correct.
And so.
You don't have to say, because I root for this guy,
I also agree with everything he's ever said, ever.
Well, of course not.
Of course that's not the case.
But you're also not saying Alex Ovechkin,
it's kind of like.
But low key, Alex Ovechkin has been so open
about being a spy for his entire career while he's in DC.
He's not even really a spy.
He's just been like, yeah, I'm pretty much,
I am agent of federal government of Russia.
So you can't really bust him for spying on anything
because he's like, he did that commercial for sports center
where he dropped through the roof
and pretended to be a Russian spy,
the whole time being like, I am spy.
It's not the same, but it's similar in the fact
when Big Ben retired and were like,
you know how you don't have to say
as good of a football player he was.
He's even better guy.
Like you don't have to say it.
You should be like, he was really good at football.
Yeah.
Alex Ovechkin, really good at hockey.
So I'm going to the game tonight,
which is going to be an interesting one
because it is, it's the Caps Rangers.
The Rangers have Panorin on their team,
whose entire family was evacuated from Russia
because he took an anti-Putin stance.
He, I think he missed like 10 games.
They were like keeping him safe.
And then there's Ovey and added on top of all that
is the two teams hate each other,
going back to the Tom Wilson thing of last year.
And they even went out and got Reeves
just to stand up to Wilson.
But now there's like a geopolitical rival backdrop in it.
Just want to say I disavow, I disavow Putin.
Ovey, Billy brought up a good point about Ovey earlier,
which was he's just, Alex Ovechkin was raised from a child
being an elite athlete in Russia.
So he was just like raised by the state, essentially.
He had everything given to him
and they support everything he's doing.
What you're doing the thing you didn't have to do.
No, I'm just saying he's been.
But you're doing the thing you had to do.
He's been indoctrinated.
Right.
You don't have to do it.
Ovechkin is a victim in this.
You don't, nope, see.
Ovechkin is a victim.
That's what it is.
Ovechkin, Alexander Ovechkin is the victim in all this.
Now you open yourself up.
We should all support him.
Now people can respond to you and be like, you're an asshole.
I'm obviously joking about that last part.
But yeah, I'm just not gonna address it.
How about that?
There you go.
You did a good job not addressing it there.
Thank you.
But you have to admit, like he, you know, you get it.
Yeah.
It's good scoring goals.
He's very good.
That's what you were gonna say.
He's a great hot footisher for you.
Probably the greatest goal scorer of all time.
Even better person.
Really good person.
Nope.
See, you don't have to do that part.
I showed you what not to do.
Okay.
All right.
Is that it?
Yeah, but anyone else?
I mean, that's a pretty big fire fest.
Yeah, I think you're being way too hard on yourself.
Yeah.
Well, he was trending on Twitter today
and then everyone was like, please comment.
No.
And you say that.
You know what?
Those people should read the room.
Correct.
To people being like, please comment
for the guy you root for, no thank you.
Yep.
No, I will pass on that.
You should read the room.
Yeah.
My fire fest, I have two.
One is on Friday, no, Wednesday show last week.
I actually said this, go watch the behind the scenes,
PMTV, which Bubba's been producing.
It's been great on our YouTube channel.
Go subscribe.
But when we came back from vacation,
I explained it to him in the camera.
So I'm sure you see it there as well.
But PFT was like, if I tweet, respond,
telling me to get off Twitter, I did not say that.
So then every time I tweeted when I was on vacation,
people were like, do get off Twitter.
It was pretty annoying,
especially because I'm very clear.
I like to watch basketball.
I like to tweet about basketball.
It was hot some days.
So I was sitting watching basketball
in the middle of the day.
So yeah, that was annoying.
Those people need to listen for voices.
Yeah.
Who's saying what?
That was me.
And I'll say it again.
Listen, that's on me.
You come to me with all these complaints.
Yeah.
My vacation is partially being able to watch sports
and fire off a few tweets and not have to work after.
Just be able to fire off a few tweets and go to dinner.
That's actually a great vacation for me.
You know what it was for me too?
Like, cause I, a couple of times I tweeted out
and people would, sorry, I tapped in real quick
and then people would reply to me
and be like, log off, touch grass.
It was good practice for me to just ignore all the replies.
And they'd be like, you know what?
Yeah.
I'm choosing to overlook all the people
telling me to log off respectfully.
I'm gonna tweet even harder.
Right.
And I'll just say it right now,
like one of the best parts of vacation was literally,
I watched the entire Wisconsin Michigan game
then Joanne Howard had anger management problems
and I went and sat on, at a pool
and tweeted and joked about it with people.
And that was very fun.
What, am I gonna read a book?
Listen, to quote the great, you quoted Dickie V earlier.
He's got one great philosophy about Twitter.
My personal favorite philosopher is Kevin Durant.
And he says, there's no relax champ.
No relax when I'm on Twitter.
I'm on 10 until the second I close the app.
That's a fact.
You relax.
That's a fact.
My other fire fest is my son's school closed
because of construction permanently.
And I got stuck in a WhatsApp thread
with a bunch of parents who like wanted to sue.
And I just was like, this is not what I would like.
Being a parent is awesome of your children
having to interact with other parents is the worst.
So it seems to me like they should probably
plan construction around the summer months.
Well, it wasn't, they're a tenant.
So it wasn't up to them.
Got it.
But they were like people being like,
this is essentially a Ponzi scheme that they've closed
and they're not giving us a full refund.
And I was like, it's a fucking preschool
that two women run that like, I don't,
like what are we talking about?
We're not gonna sue someone.
And I was like, I looked around and I didn't say to this
because I just didn't interact.
But it was like one of those moments where it was like,
I don't want to be a part of this.
I want to just parent my kids.
Can I tell you something?
I think you should sue.
I think you should just sue the absolute fuck out.
Get in all the papers, have big articles written
about like Dan Katz.
Oh, someone said we should go to the press.
Yeah, there you go.
I was like, no, no, no, no.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
Go to the press and be like,
Dan Katz is filing a lawsuit
because his son's school is under construction.
Oh my God.
It's the old, like the guy who's,
the guy or the woman who's the head of the condo board.
There's there one person in every.
Homeowner's associations are like that.
Yeah, one person in every group
that has essentially learned a life hack
that they can complain about everything
and eventually they'll wear everyone else down.
And that person's just the worst.
And they, but they get away with it
because no one's going to be like, hey dude, stop.
We just don't want to deal with it.
I don't care enough to really stand up to you right now.
It's the person who like sends back their food
constantly at a dinner.
You know what I mean?
Or like wants a free thing.
It's like, I would rather just eat this steak
that's not cooked correctly
because I don't really want to complain
and look like an asshole.
Call me a pushover, but I feel like I speak
for the majority of people in this world.
Yeah, I ran into a situation like that
when we were in the Virgin Islands.
I took a taxi and the taxi charged me,
probably double what they normally charge.
Get out and people were like,
hey, how much do they charge you?
I said 50 bucks and they're like,
it should have been like 25.
I was like, yeah, you know what?
In the moment I knew that I was being ripped off,
but at the same time I didn't care enough about it
to be like make a stink.
The guy got me to a beach.
I was happy to be at that beach.
I didn't know how I was going to get to that beach
earlier in the day.
Found a guy at a taxi, took me there.
I'm happy.
Right, right.
We got 50% of the money back for the rest of the year
and it's like a difference between a couple thousand dollars
that we're gonna sue again,
like two women who don't have jobs anymore
because the school closed.
I was like, I think I'm out.
I also like everybody that gets ripped off
thinks it's a Ponzi scheme.
Yeah, this is literally a Ponzi scheme.
Yeah, literally.
A school closed down and gave us half a refund.
Yeah.
That's what Ponzi schemes do.
I almost did reply in the inner troll of me,
but I decided to hold back
that I had seen the teachers driving Lambos to school,
but I didn't want to do it because I could read,
I read the room and I was like,
people are gonna think I'm serious.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
By the way, did you see that?
Did you see that article about like Max Scherzer
pulling up to the NOBPA negotiations
in like a very nice car?
Yeah.
That was kind of ridiculous.
And then someone quoted it was great with,
what's the name of the owner of the Mets?
Steve Cohen.
Steve Cohen, like Steve Cohen bought this shark
that's frozen in formaldehyde for $8 million.
Yeah.
It's sitting in his living room.
It's sick though.
He's one of those guys that has the yacht
with the emotional support yacht that goes along with it.
Yeah, the baby boats that come off,
little tiny baby boats.
All right, Billy, your firefest?
I gotta go get the barbell and weights
that is somewhere in New Jersey.
And it's gonna take a long time.
So I'm gonna have to drive three hours
to get it back to the office.
Who could have seen this one coming?
I know.
Now it's time to pay the piper.
In retrospect, do you think it was a good idea
to bring the weights along on the trip?
Yes.
In the ice storm, it was huge for balancing out the truck.
What about just buying,
you could have bought a pair of dumbbells for like 50 bucks.
Dumbbells are expensive.
It's a pandemic like home gyms and stuff.
Yeah, they are.
I could only get one of those adjustable dumbbells.
So I've just got one in my house.
Also everyone's trying to send me to Ukraine,
but that's a different story, Jake.
Hmm, thanks Billy.
Thank you for your service, Billy.
You should.
If you're a man that stands up for what you say
you stand up for.
A lot of people aren't there saying
I'm the number one draft pick, but yeah.
I would go, but unfortunately,
regrettably I'm too old for military service.
I would be the first one in line though.
So Billy, are you gonna?
We would hate to have you leave this podcast,
but I think you should for our country.
Yeah, I mean, if everyone's nodding.
Once Uncle Sam starts popping up in the TikTok feed
saying like, we need you, then it might be time.
Dude, think about the content.
I know, you should think about it.
We should do it.
You could still zoom in.
Could we just send me out there?
If your black rifle will sponsor it.
Yeah.
Just send me out there to do some reporting.
Can I go press?
Yeah, press.
I don't think that's a good idea,
because if you went out there as press,
you know you, you'd probably be like the first person
like ditch the press uniform and join the fight.
Just wait to get out there.
Yeah.
But yes, you can.
I'm giving you the green light to go to Ukraine.
Sweet.
All right.
You won't.
Jake.
He traded all right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The front line Ukraine.
That tweet resurfaced.
The traded all?
The memes retweeted it.
Yeah.
My 3 AM listening to Jocko Willink.
Tried it all.
Tried it all.
Tried it all.
I love memes being actually the one
that resurfaces stuff on all of us.
Yeah.
This is an agent of mass chaos.
Jake.
Yeah, so I mentioned the Iowa trip yesterday,
getting back here.
It was a crazy travel day.
So I won't go through the nitty gritty,
but I'll just give you some stats.
It would have been a 15 hour drive
from Iowa to New York City.
Door-to-door was 16 hours for us.
We boarded three planes.
We took off once.
Woo.
Including a four hour drive to Chicago.
Damn.
Yeah, it was really tough.
But staying positive.
It's about time of year.
You're here, you're back.
Lot to be thankful for.
Can't complain.
How'd you watch Save Your Providence on the phone?
Oh, while you were in the air?
We're on the tarmac.
Okay.
So I had service.
All right, so you get to watch that.
Yeah.
Also the Midwest is beautiful this time of year.
Yeah, of course.
You get to see part of this great country.
Driving, yeah.
I didn't want to do the blue check mark between the airlines
because every time I see it, I'm like,
no one really cares.
So like, I care.
Oh, people care.
People care.
You care.
I care.
Well, Big Cat just likes to skull fuck.
I actually see things.
And as an empath, when I see somebody that's in pain
or suffering, I look at that and I feel the pain
probably more than you do.
It's a curse that I carry really.
Even touching you guys.
To be so kind.
Probably tells me like, do they really care?
Shut up.
I'm so kind.
I'm so kind that it hurts me.
Yeah.
If you're an empath this weekend, you can take a break.
Only empaths will understand the feeling
of being sad for somebody else.
Big ups to my empaths.
True ones.
Yeah.
True ones, no.
We're not making fun of you, Jake.
Don't worry.
Yeah, I'm kind of lost.
Okay, I know.
I can see that on your face.
But anyways, don't talk travel day,
but I'm here and everything's all right.
All right, well, let's do numbers.
And we'll see.
What do you got, Billy?
One last thing.
I got an animal.
Oh, okay.
I think you had something else in your throat.
17.
I think I got a good sense of like when,
when like Stella's about to bark
and when Billy wants to say something.
Oh, yeah.
Those are my two things.
And I'm like, no.
Because, well, it's tricky
because sometimes he does the deep breath,
but he has nothing to say.
I'll just go.
Yeah.
But it's kind of a lean and a,
okay.
All right.
22.
Give me a.
25.
17.
69.
No, no.
Not 17.
I think Hank just took that.
What do you for 69?
I'm gonna go 90.
You can join.
Six.
I'll get my own number.
Thank you.
I really fucked up with the Tyree kill pick.
I really hate myself.
42.
42.
Jackie Robinson.
Yeah.
There we go.
Love this.
Sunflowers are the official flower
of the country of Ukraine.
Love you guys.
Oh, I saw, I saw this bad.
It's on a fast day.
You see the bad ass?
No, that's a flower.
Well, flowers.
I mean, it's flora.
No.
It's biomass.
You're going soft on us.
Doing little flowers.
I think he's standing up for Ukraine,
not the Ukraine, by the way.
But yeah, that lady today, that was like.
All right, we're cut.
Strong.
Let's say after me, I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway.
Today's another day to find you, shy and away.
I'll be coming for your love, OK?
I'll be coming.
Take a meal.
I'll be coming.
I'll be coming.
I'll be coming.
I'll be coming.
I'll be coming.
There you go.
That was fantastic.