Pardon My Take - Mark Titus, Justin Thomas Wins The PGA & NBA/NHL Playoffs

Episode Date: May 23, 2022

Justin Thomas wins in dramatic fashion after a crazy Sunday comeback. What it must feel like to be Mito Peirera. (00:02:16-00:14:28) Heat beat the Celtics in Game 3 and Hank is in denial. (00:14:32-00:27:52) Who's back of the week including Talking soccer and Jake gets suspended.(00:28:54-00:42:50) Mark Titus joins us in studio to catch up with the guys, talk basketball, and his greatest moment at Ohio State. (00:43:55-01:45:42) We finish with Mavs/Warrios recap and hockey talk.(01:46:42-02:00:37)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Hadn't seen him a few months. We have a PGA championship that was thrilling over time, playoff holes. I guess playoff holes is what you call it, whatever, golf nerds, I don't care. We're gonna talk that. We have Celtics Heat, which is, let's just say Hank is in a foul mood.

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and you can get wireless for as low as $25 a month. Today is Monday, May 23rd and Justin Thomas is back on top. What a PGA championship. It was an awesome finish. It was. It was great. Now the field going into Sunday didn't look that strong.

It looked like it might be kind of a boring one for all the golf casuals out there, not us. Not us. Not real, what do you call it, dimple heads? Dimple heads, yeah. Not real dimple heads like me and Big Cat. We're course monsters. Yeah, we did root for the course in the course.

I'll say this about the course. It had almost a Robert Ory type showing where it was like solid, not spectacular, but it came through in the clutch when it counted. Yeah. On the 18th hole you had Mito Pereira from Chile teeing off and it was, he turned into Charles Barkley on the 18th hole.

It was crazy watching his drive. He spazzed out in the middle of his swing. It was also, we were all, I think, everyone who was watching was rooting for the same thing because the PGA championship has a three-hole playoff. We were rooting for him to bogey so that then there's a three-man, three-hole playoff. He just went completely off the reservation,

hit it into the water, then hit it, I think, over the green, then another one, like all over the place, total disaster. I don't know how you mentally can ever come back from something like that. I know that sounds extreme, but you're leading by one and you were leading basically all day. Essentially everyone, no one wanted to win this tournament.

That's why you get Justin Thomas coming back from seven strokes down to start the day. But yeah, Mito Pereira, I mean, I guess the only solace you can have is like, he still won $800,000. That's pretty good. He lost, like, $1.3 million on that hole. It just occurred to me that, like, as a Chilean,

he would be very, very close to the water at all times. That's kind of a tradition that they have there. Now, he did, he does have the fact that it's not the worst 18th hole meltdown in the history of the majors. Correct. That will forever be Vandeville, the French guy that ended up taking off his socks

at the 18th hole. Trying to hit it out of the water. Yeah, that was trying to be Jesus Christ. That was awesome. I wish that Mito had tried to do that. Me too. That would have been incredible. Wait, that was kind of...

Me too. Me too. He got me tooed. He got me tooed on the 18th. He's just the Chilean Mike Pereira, I guess. Yeah. That's the whole thing. The whole time I was like,

okay, well, cool. I know how to pronounce his name. Yeah. It was a football. So Justin Thomas wins. I didn't realize this. I always knew it was the Wanamaker trophy, which is a great trophy, I think.

Yep. I think that's the one that got broken a couple of years ago. Yes. By Morakawa. I believe so. Right? So not only do you get a nice purse,

you get all those exemptions to, like, basically a returnment for five years, but you also get the money clip. Yeah. You get, like, the PGA Champions money clip when you win this, and that's the most golf thing ever. To be like, hey, we're giving you so much money

that part of the trophy is going to be something that you can use to keep all the money together with. Yes. I think the real MVP was the guy that was standing next to the T-Box on the 18th hole, and he yelled, smash the driver. He was like, smash the driver at Mido. There's no...

Why would you ever hit driver on the 18th after Mido? You saw it. Basically, we had the same exact thing happen in the playoff where Will Zalatoris and Justin Thomas, Justin Thomas with the insane, drove the green in a part four in the second hole of the playoff. Then he gets up to 18, same spot,

up by one, and he was like, okay, I'm not going to screw this up. Like, I think he... No, he had a driver. No, no, he did actually. He had a driver. It was Will who actually didn't hit driver on the 18th there.

But Justin Thomas was like, fuck it. Yeah. So the commenters were like, that's what Mido should have done. When Will hit his tree wood, it's like, damn. Still throwing salt in it. But yeah, why would you... Because that guy was so convincing.

If you go back and you listen to the replay, as he's walking up to the 18th seed, there's this one guy, this drunk Tulsen, just screaming at the top of his lungs, smash the driver, and then you hear a woman from the other side go, no, don't. Play it safe. Play it safe.

And the guy's like, no, smash it. And he's like, you know what? That guy won the argument. I'm going to go with him. Brutal. I mean, man, absolutely brutal. I also love short par fours. Yeah.

So that's what really won the tournament for JT was when he drove the green on the short par four. And maybe now Alabama gets a little smoke off of Sabin. Because Justin Thomas, this does count as a championship for Alabama. That's a good point. I also have an MVP. It is golf writer for ESPN.

His name is Kevin Van Valkenberg. Oh yeah, I like Kevin. Yep. I do too, I think. I don't know. But he wrote an article on Saturday after McElroy and Justin Thomas had a bad Saturday. And he was talking about how they basically

another opportunity has passed them by. And he wrote both McElroy and Thomas grew up idolizing woods, Tiger Woods, if you don't know, especially the way he climbed the leaderboard on days like this one at Southern Hills. He did it even when he didn't have his best stuff. Both men were mentored by woods early in their careers and among a small circle of players

who can call the 15 time major winner a friend. But what has become apparent watching them is that woods could not pass down the ruthlessness that ran through him like an electric current, particularly in majors. He passed along strategy secrets and occasional bits of swing theory, but he could not hand over the cold blooded ferociousness that helped him

dominate the sport. And so he basically was like, yeah, these guys stink. They're not Tiger Woods. And then Justin Thomas goes and has a seven stroke comeback to win the tournament in a playoff. I mean, he played awesome on time. Awesome. But Justin Thomas was really, really good.

It was very quickly that a storyline of these guys don't have that killer edge out the window. Now, Rory, you could say the same for, or you could still say it, because he's been very disappointing with what you saw on Thursday, where he kicked the shit out of everyone. Rory is now officially, when he has his best, he can't be beat.

His best stuff. But his best doesn't come out consistently enough. Yeah, it's like a great picture when he's on his stuff, when the humidity is just right. Rory is unbeatable. But yeah, I'd like to see Rory get back involved. I feel like he's playing good golf right now. I was rooting for, he is, right?

Yeah, yeah. He played well with the Masters. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's playing better than he has in like the last four years, three years. I can't confidently speak on that. I've just seen his name.

I've seen his name work. Hank, is he striking the ball better than he has? No idea. He was hitting a long drivers in the beginning. I know he played great on Thursday. He did have that last round at the Masters. Rory's, I think he's become like a backdoor cover guy for top fives.

Like he shows up on Sundays when he's out and he comes back in. But yeah, yeah, he's striking the ball well. I'm going to great torque. I'm going to place a hefty bet on Rory in the open championship. Beautiful. I feel like that's where, I'm just going to say

it's in Northern Ireland this year. So it's Rory's home course. By the way, shout out to PGA Championship for moving their championship up because it does feel more important now. Remember, he's always before. Everyone's like, oh, who cares? End of the song.

It doesn't matter. This one actually felt like a major. I think that they should, I love what the US Open used to do. I don't know if they still do it with their overtime, as you said at the start of the show. They do like an entire day's worth, like an 18-hole playoff,

which that was incredible when it was Tiger Woods and Rocco Mediate back in like 2008, 2009. That day in the office, that right there is the most counterproductive office day of all time across America. I would imagine. Like everyone that works in a cubicle.

Yeah, tournament. No, this is, I think that was bigger than the tournament because it's like everybody was watching all day long. I don't think, I don't think Collin, I mean, come on, it's the in some way tournament. Yeah, but I mean, think about white collar workers in cubicles, Tiger Woods in a playoff all day. They're watching tournament.

All day. That one day, I think would dwarf the tournament. So I actually don't know where the open, oh, it's at the old course this year. Yeah, it's, yeah, fuck it. It's Rory's home course. There it is. So let's all bet on Rory in the open.

Yeah, he's playing great golf. He's playing great golf. I was gonna say, it really felt like a major because they moved it up minus the part where Max Homa finished top 20. That part didn't feel like a major because we were like, what the hell? What is he doing here?

He shot perfectly even. Yeah. I think it's time that we as a podcast have to acknowledge that Max is good. No, this is, I actually texted him. He's just good at golf. I texted him, congratulations. This is part of the baby steps we talked to him about.

He made the cut at the Masters and we said, you got to start finishing like top 20 then top, like by next year, he's going to win every major. I'm fully confident in that. And let's just say it. He had to deal with the sniffles all weekend. He had allergies. And I mean, I've never seen anything as heroic as that.

I know people were talking about Tiger who made the cut. Let's just say when he shot bad on Saturday and then like, Tiger's good. Tiger's good at his spin zones. He's good at, he's good at controlling the narrative. I think everyone's like, this guy, how is he walking? How does he make a cut? And then he shoots horrendous on Saturday and pulls out

and everyone's like, I'm just so thankful. He, you know, he even gave us three days. I think what happened was Tiger pulled out because he had the sniffles and he couldn't battle through the sniffles. Max made the sniffles his bitch. He shot a perfect even par. So this was Max's best finish at a major tie for 13.

And if he just makes the cut at the US Open in Massachusetts this summer, he will officially have made the cut at all four majors. I was very proud of him. I was very proud. That's the max slam. Yeah. Like a max slam.

Making the cut at all four in your career. Yeah. I was very proud of him. It was big for him. And our guy, Will's Out Taurus came up short, sucked. He, he's one of those guys that, you know, speaking as, what do we call ourselves? Dimple heads.

Dimple heads. We know golf better than anyone. As soon as he figures out his putter, he's going to win every major. And by figures out his putter, you mean like gets a putter, gets a better putter. Yeah. I think his, like watching his putting stroke,

whenever he pulls it back, it like shakes. Well, I don't think that you're supposed to do that. I think it's supposed to go straight back and straight forward. Yeah. Yes. That's what we're taught. Yeah. But we're like students of the game.

I think he, was there like a right to left putt that he had? And Jim Nance said something like, oh, there's that right to left. He struggles with like, wait, isn't that like half the time? 50% of the shots, ideally. Yeah. What the fuck? The total field was 156 players at the PGA. Max had 157 because he was fighting his own body.

Correct. Correct. So I'd say like Max is the real winner of this weekend. Yes. I actually am legitimately no bullshit aside proud of him. And I'm saying that because he actually hit a birdie on 18 that pushed his head to head with the guy he was playing with. And if he had missed that, I would be full Max slander right now.

Yeah. I would have been calling him the biggest bum in the world. So he, he saved himself with his plate. Good job, Max. How much did that last putt earn Max? Probably a decent amount. Probably about a hundred K. I would guess.

Tied for 13, 253,750 dollars. So wait, that's how much he would have lost if he had not. If he missed it, the next, it was tied for 20th. It was 191. So it's 60,000. 60,000 dollars. Huge. Okay.

Good job, Max. Also, I believe every golfer who's been on this podcast made the cut. Brooks made the cut. Call him or cow and made the cut. Ricky. Never, never get to any respect. I know. Ricky made the cut.

All right. He made the cut. And team BMW, Brooks Max Will, Justin Thomas. Brooks is still injured. I know. I know. Like Brooks is. Smiley was covering it.

He was covering it. He was actually, I saw him. He was covering it for ESPN. So I believe everyone did it. So he made the cut. He was there on Sunday. He made the cut. The most fun fact about this golf course was that Whitey Bulger had a guy killed in the

parking lot one time. Oh, that is a fun fact. It's kind of crazy. That is a very fun fact. And you ever hear about like the mob out in Oklahoma? And I was trying to figure out why you don't, like no one talks about like the oil mob. It's just because the mobsters that ran oil ended up just becoming oil businessmen and they wrote all the laws to make everything they did completely legal.

Right. Right. So it is the mob. Right. It's, yeah, it's a legalized mob. Yeah. Good for them. Yeah.

It was good. It was fun. It was good. The playoff was great. More playoffs, overtime, whatever you want to call it. The Celtics in the heat series because there's one Henry Lockwood in here who's had quite a change of tune in the last 24 hours. Actually no, because we were eating dinner tonight and he said the Celtics have played

better than the heat in every single one of the games. If you go by one time at the 12th quarter, yes, you go by quarters. He is, and I still, I mean, I predicted this series was going to go seven. I think it's going to go back and forth like this. I don't think that I'm not, I'm not going to be a prisoner of the moment and say the Celtics are done in any way. Let's start with this Hank. What was your range of emotions when not only Marcus Smart, but Jason Tatum, both were out

for the year for 10 minutes. Marcus Smart, that happens once a game for the last eight years of his career. So that wasn't anything normal. It's like, he's going to be, he's going to get up, he's going to be fine. When Tatum went down, I said it, I was like, season's over. I almost tweeted it like, thanks for coming out. Good season, good run. What could have been, he looks like he's dead.

He went to the locker room. I thought his shoulder was pulled out like he was going to have, you know, have surgery that was going to have no chance of him being back within like eight weeks. Yeah. And then when he came back, it was hype. It was awesome. It was a great moment. Great, you know, great theater for the, for the people of Boston that were at the game

when Smart came out and Tatum came back. Although two Willis Reed moments. I was going to say it's like building the entire team out of Ben Rofflesburg. Yeah. The problem with Tatum is that he came back when they were down one. Like it seemed like everything was going their way and then it just all fell apart again. But they should have even put him back in because Max troops showed up.

That's what happened. Max troops, I think is he, I'm going to put him as the most important player. No, you don't. You don't as first. Yeah. The most important player besides you don't as Aslam is Max troops because like it did look like they were going to lose that game and they were up by one point and then Max was just like, give me the fucking ball.

I'm going to shoot this three. And then from that point on, it was like, okay, that game's over. Whereas like if you miss that three Celtics get the rebound, they take the lead. I think the game's over. I think the Celtics win that game. Hank said they should have won. Well, they did win, but then he, but then I, I reminded him that Jimmy Butler didn't play the second half.

He's like, yeah. That's why they should have won. That's what I'm saying. Like no, but they, but Jimmy Butler not playing. They should have won that game. Yeah. But the first quarter does count. It does.

And the first half all quarters counts, all quarters counts. They've won 10 of them. All quarters matter. Yeah. That's pretty honest. Sure. And the Celtics have won 10 of them, which to me means that they're the better team. Yeah.

You were talking shit about 83% earlier in these playoffs. You were like, well, that means that 70, 17% chance that it doesn't happen. And you were betting on those teams. Now the curse of the 17% is coming back at you. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Celtics have to win tonight, Monday night, even series. They're the better team. Best out of three.

They can win that. Yeah. So Hank on Friday, when went to rough and rowdy was talking like he was like, we're so much better than them. I'm in a roller coaster of emotions. It's a five game series. It's over. I, watching this game, the biggest takeaway for me, well, there's two takeaways.

The Celtics who were just so sloppy with the ball, like 26 turnovers is insane to bam out of bio. I, if you're a heat fan, I, you got to be so frustrated with that guy because he's so goddamn good. And then he just decided on Saturday night because Jimmy actually said, like, I need to look for my teammates more. I need some more help. They even said, like they echoed it, Tyler hero and bam, we're saying, like we need to

help him more. He shot 15 for 22. He was unstoppable. And then you look back games one and two, he had 10 shots total. He basically decide, like if he, when he wants to decide to be like a huge mismatch and a game changer, he can do it. And then there's games where he's like, no, I'm just going to stand kind of in no man's land and pass the ball.

I'm going to do the thing where I tell you why bam's game wasn't actually that great. He only shot one foul shot. Yeah. He was, so I need, I need my, I need my big man to get to the line a little bit more often. He came out and was on fire and basically was the reason why they started so hot. So what, should we talk about Peyton Pritchard a little bit? Do you think that was, do you, do you disavow?

Disavow what? He broke the code. Great. Peyton Pritchard grabbing Jimmy Butler by the knee. He grabbed his knee. Grabbed the inside of his knee. Glad someone in the media is going to talk about it. Yeah.

Well, you, you, you learned it to us, Jake. We had no idea as a heat disrespect, bad part on our part. I mean, that's your, your grasping at straws. It's a physical game. Guys are getting physical. You know, bodies are going to bump into each other. He was going for the ball. He was, it was great when Hank looked at the, the replay and he just stared at it for an

extra like 30 seconds, trying to be like, how am I going to get myself out of this one? He kept replaying it being like, maybe, maybe it'll show up differently this time. He just shot. There's only one angle too. There's only one angle and it's like a blurry angle. It's not really. Maybe it was the full court talking about it because there's nothing to talk about, Jake. What are, what are your thoughts on Jason Tatum and the game he had?

It was just super, super sloppy. The him and him and Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown had a good game, but the, my biggest issue or like when I woke up today and I was sad. I was like, what the fuck? I can't believe we lost that game. I can't believe we lost the first game is like we are the better team in my mind. I know I keep saying that.

I know you guys are pushing back, but I think we are the better team in my mind. And if we lose the series, and it's gonna, it's gonna because of sloppy turnovers and just like dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, doi, doi plays. And not because of like, you know, Jimmy Butler taking over the heat, having a better strategy, whatever. It's like the Celtics are beating the Celtics. So I don't, I think you're the better team,

but I don't think it's that big of a difference is where I would land. 10 out of 12. Like I think, I think this is 10 out of 12 quarters, you're right. I think the heat are like a slight notch below in terms of overall talent, but they also play really good defense

and they're very well coached. So that can, that can even it out right there. Also Hank, it's not 10 out of 12. It's, it's a nine, one and one. Yeah. I think one, I'm not sorry. Nine, nine, one and two, yeah. They tied the third quarter of last night's game. So my mistake.

Yeah, that is a mistake. Jake, where are you thinking? Over? Series over? No, no, no. I'm just glad all the players are okay. Hopefully. Is Jimmy okay?

We don't know about Jimmy Butler, but I'm glad Jason Tatum and Marcus Smart made it back to the court. Yeah. It was real tough. I was going for the ball when I went after Jake and everyone's coming at me. Payton Kretcher was going after the ball

when Jimmy Butler got hurt. Everyone's coming after him. It's like, what, what are you supposed to do? This is your fault. This is, no, it's your fault. No, it's your fault. You created the game. Right.

You were the one that said. You actually started the game. No, I changed the rules. I changed the rules. Yeah, I said bench press. You said ball sack. I wasn't thinking about games. You started the game,

a vocation of the live stream. I then took it to where it went. Yeah, that's just great producing on my end. But it's your fault. You're the one that said, if someone loses, they get nut tapped and you get to choose who nut taps you. If so, de facto, Jake loses.

De facto. Is that Italian? So I blame you. I blame you. Okay. I don't, I do not take that blame. Hank, here's a closer up view of the grab. This one's much closer.

You can see exactly what happened there. He's on the ground. Butler's got the ball, drives, and just grabs his knee and pulls it back. It was just a good tackle. Something about sport he was playing. He said, you're the lake. You're not going to look at it.

I think the Celtics are going to kill them in game four. There you go. Kill? Yeah. Okay, so actually, here's why. I actually think we, should we maybe apologize to Bob Ryan about the three point rule

and him saying it's ruined basketball? Because I went and looked it up. I had a thought after watching the first half on Saturday night where the heat were just demolishing the Celtics. And I was like, have these playoffs been like that great? Because I know there's been some drama.

I look back, there have been more games that have been won by double digits than games that have won by less than double digits. Yeah, that's what it felt like to me. Like there's some series that go back and forth, but even in the ones that go back and forth. Correct. It's blowouts.

It's 38 games have been decided by double digits. 20 of those have been 20 points plus, and 36 games have been 10 points or less without talking about this game tonight that's going on. We're going to talk about it after Titus. And it's essentially like, which team just hits their threes in a given night? It's the variance of each team's going to shoot

a lot of threes. If your team makes all the threes, they win by 10 plus. If they don't, they lose by 10 plus. I guess it was a little bit different because like I think the Celtics shot like 40% almost from three last night. They shot better than the heat did from three.

Right, but it was the second half they came back. That one was more about like, like you guys were talking about the turnovers, the weird, like they just, they try to run a quasi fast break off and sometimes, but you have to be able to complete two passes to that. And they're not able to do that. But game two was essentially like, you know,

the Celtics won by 20 and they shot 50% from three. Right, like that was game two. What did they shoot? Game one, I think it was terrible from three. It's essentially, do you make your threes? I know this is an oversimplification, but yeah, they shot 32% from three in game one, 50% in game two.

There's the difference between winning by 10 and losing by 10. Again, this is probably oversimplifying it, but there is a feeling of like, you just watched the NBA on a night to night and I don't want the weirdos to come out of the woodwork and be like, these, you know, the NBA sucks. No weirdos. I love the NBA, but you can make the argument

that you turn on the game and it's just will one team hit all their threes tonight? Okay, game over. Yeah. I mean, it's been like that the last couple of years. Like Steph Curry. People tried to match what Steph Curry and the Warriors were doing

and you really can't do that unless you are Steph Curry. And I was just thinking about how many games I've watched and I feel like it's been over from the beginning. There haven't been, there've been a couple of memorable, memorable games. You know, the Bucks Celtic series felt like it had a few. Grizz Timberwolves. Grizz Timberwolves had a few.

And actually the Grizzly's Warriors had a couple games but those were some blows too. I just, I don't know, something to think about. Something to throw out there. I don't, again, I don't want it to become a rallying cry for the anti NBA people because I like the NBA and I like watching basketball. I just was, it popped in my head

when I was watching the games on Saturday night. I'm curious to know for our own Mr. 305, Jake. Jake, you got the pulse of Miami right now. You do. You stand up for the city of Miami. When I think Miami, I think Jake Marsh. So Jake. Boca, Lauderdale.

Weston. Weston, Miami. How confident are we right now? Like I feel like the heat are starting to get that respect that you guys have been asking for. No, they're not. Everyone's talking about what Hank said, how the Celtics blew that opportunity.

No one's saying, oh, the heat without their best player held on and won a road game. Yeah, I thought the heat had a great game plan and they played very good defense on Saturday night. They deserve to win that game. I feel like PJ Tucker has been on the heat his entire life, even though he has. He should have.

He's played for everywhere else. I think he's been all over the world. But he feels like a guy that's just like, he is heat culture right now. I agree, these teams are pretty evenly matched. So would I love the heat to be up 3-1? Sure. But from the beginning, I thought

this was going at least six or seven. I think if the heat went tomorrow, they'll close the deal at home. Also, just to clean something out, and Hank's giving Jake a death stare. Hank, when you said it earlier. Again, he was looking at his phone. Thank you, Jake, very cool.

When you said earlier that it's going to be a best of three series, you mean they win the next one. And then after that, it's a best of three series. I mean, this is, once again, selective PFT false narrative commentary. I mean, I heard what you said. Yes, the beginning of the sentence was win tomorrow, then it's a best of three.

OK, got it. The beginning of that was saying that we have to win tomorrow. Got it. Then, after that, it will be a best of three. It wasn't an if, then statement. It was like, win tomorrow, it's a best of three. Yeah, that's the plan.

What about winning it? That's how I'm thinking about it. What about win the next two, and then all you got to do is win one of two? You just got to focus on the next game, Big Cat. You know that. But then the best of three. If we win tomorrow, then it will be a best of three.

Did you see the Jermain O'Neill clip, by the way? Jake of Heat Culture. He was talking about Heat Culture, and I guess like the Heat. I'm sure most NBA teams do this, but the Heat make their players stay below certain percentage in body fat. And he said that the reason why he didn't re-sign with them, he said, I remember going into the pantry at night looking at the Oreos, the Oreos looking at me,

and I was like, bro, I'm 30 plus years old. I can't go through this. Not Heat Culture. Takes a lot. Yeah. I kind of respect that. The Oreos looking back at him. It's true.

Once you reach a certain age, you're like, you know what? This treat is going to taste better than any percentage body fat could ever feel. Right. I can't do this. They always say if you're on a diet, it's like nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. That entirely flips once you reach your 30s.

And it's like, no, being skinny actually doesn't feel good. A moment on the lips forever on the hips. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that shit. Eat what you want. OK. So are we going to?

We're not going to stream Monday night. Maybe Wednesday night? I don't know. We got to figure that out. Is it Wednesday or Thursday? No, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. Whoa.

Yeah. So because we're so Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, because we're going to obviously be Memorial Day weekend. So maybe we'll do a Wednesday because we don't have, we won't have any other games that we'll be around for. That will be, you know, game five will be very important because it'll be 2-2. Yeah, at that point, it's like whoever wins that,

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OK, who's back the week, Hank? My who's back the week is Footee. Yeah. Sokka. The lads. This is more of a, more maybe an explain to Hank, even though you guys know a big, big soccer guy love the pitch. Yeah.

But today, seemed like it was the Premier League's version of Red Zone. Yes. Why don't they do this all the time? Because it's the last Sunday. It's the last week, the last games of the year for the entire league. So every team played at the same exact time.

It makes, so the way that they crown their winner is through the regular season. That's who wins the EPL. So on the last day, it's like they play them all at the exact same time so that no teams are doing any like gamesmanship of, oh, this team tied earlier. We have to do this. We have to do that.

There's no advantage. They do kind of do that in the NFL now, where they, you know, will make everyone play at 1 o'clock that doesn't have the same, that can't impact the 4 o'clock games. They do something similar. But it was awesome because Man City won the league. They were down 2-0.

They had to win the game to win the league, because Liverpool was winning or was about to win. And they scored three goals in five minutes to win three to two and win the entire league. Did you see the manager's celebration? It was great. Yeah, it was also perfectly normal. And it was actually a bonus like whammy,

because Stephen Gerrard, who is the manager of Villa, who they were playing, is a Liverpool legend. So if his team had held on and tied Man City, Liverpool would have won the league, which he never did. There's a double fuck off. Yeah. So he got screwed twice. That's brutal.

Oh, wait. So they departed amicably. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a legend at Liverpool, but he never won the league. And then he wasn't even able to win the league for Liverpool by managing another team to a draw. Right, right.

And now, I think it's like a week from now, Liverpool plays for the UEFA Champions League title. Yes. So it ruined their opportunity to win all four. So there's like four major trophies you can win, and Liverpool could have done that. But it got snatched by Man City. Yes.

The city for men. It's actually another plan for another one in two weeks. Once you understand it, once you understand it, it actually is kind of a cool system. It's every. It's hard. It's very hard. All the major leagues, right?

So the EPL, if you finish top four in the league, you are now in the Champions League the next year, which is all the best teams in Europe play in a tournament throughout the year. If you finish fifth, you're in Europa, which is the Thursday games. Shout out, troops. Remember how he watches like the shitty league on Thursdays?

He's going to do that again. Were they close? They were close. They lost in a heartbreaker midweek that ruined it for them. Either way, Liverpool now is going to be playing for the Champions League, which is probably, it's what everyone is going for, because that is the championship of Europe.

You're the champions of Europe. You're the best team across Europe. So you're playing against Spanish teams, German teams, Italian teams, whatever. So that's the prize, although the EPL title is very nice as well. They say that the EPL title is the hardest one to win, because it's like the full season long. Yeah.

Now, some people will probably be like, well, no, the UEFA Champions League is harder to win, because you have to play against all the best teams in Europe. But I heard one guy with the British accent say that was the hardest one to do. So that's what I'm going to go with. I mean, it's pretty hard. Yeah, you've got to win the, yeah.

Winning the regular season. It's a full season award, yeah. Yeah, and you play each team home and away, which is kind of cool. I mean, there's, once you can grasp it, it is kind of a cool league, how they have it set up. Not to rub. And there was.

Just for context, I'm not even trying to troll here, but Swansea would have to get unrelegated into the EPL. Correct. If they finish top four, then they could get in champions. Yeah, they'll never do that. Correct. Top four, let's just get unrelegated, which is promotion. But there was also an American storyline.

Yes. Because the coach of Leeds, he came in like halfway through the season. He's an American. His name is Jesse Marsh. He's from Wisconsin. He's from, is it racing? Yep.

He's from racing. Shout out to Karan Butler. Racing Wisconsin. And he came in and he managed Leeds to, I think they finished like three, three and four, some bullshit like that to end the season. But they were going to be, they were going to be relegated. So unpromoted, football coach.

De-unpromoted. Yeah, he's a footy coach. Yeah, and they scored with like an American football. He's Ted Lasso. They scored with no time left. It was incredible. It was great drama. It's funny because he's the, I read somewhere that he,

he's the American that has managed an English team to its highest result at the end of the season in the history of the EPL. And it's like, wait, like barely not getting relegated? Yeah. That's the best that we've done? That's huge. That's big for us though.

But yeah, it is Ted Lasso. And shout out Sunderland who got promoted from the second league to the championship league, which is the second league. Yeah. They got promoted. The championship league. That's what Swans is in. Yeah.

They were in the third league. There's actually a great documentary on Netflix. Everyone should watch it about Sunderland. But they were the third league. They got promoted to the second league. So next year they're going to try to get back to the first league, which is cool. That system is awesome.

That system, it will never happen in America because the part of the system that everyone, when everyone on Twitter will be like, why don't we have relegation in American sports? You forget the part that no business owner is ever going to want to risk having their team. Like, could you imagine going to Jerry Jones and be like, hey, if Dak Prescott gets hurt and you win two games,

you're not in the NFL anymore. Yeah, he's not going to sign up for that. Should do it in college sports with the major conferences. Again, there's too much money involved. Right, exactly. No one will ever agree to it, but it is a very cool thing that you can basically climb the ladder and have a rags to riches story within the league.

What do you do if your team gets relegated? Because I feel like that's when you have a decision to make of, is it really worth it? Am I going to sweat out the next couple of years in the derelegation league? Well, the problem too is then players don't want to play for a team that's not in the EPL, so they ask to be transferred.

It's a whole thing. But it's very cool. Very cool. All right, and that was Talking Soccer. That was Talking Soccer, the extended Talking Soccer. I'm sure we screwed some things up. And if we did, please send all complaints to Jake Marsh. My who's back in the week, I got a couple.

My first one is Martin Screlli. Yeah. Former guest, AWL. Get the band back together. Long time, Stuley Martin Screlli. The farmer, bro, is out of prison. He completed all of his instructional courses. Yeah?

Time out. Why are we calling it time out? Jake is direing. Yeah. He's direing right now. Jake never walks out during a podcast. I just realized that he said that his stomach was getting shredded by the cheesesteak we had.

He's pooping right now. Lamar Jackson. Where were you right now? Loki. Yeah, Loki. Lamar Jackson. Yeah, he's Loki's shit in his gourd out on the toilet. Where were you when you were listening to part of my take

and you realized at this very moment, Jake Marsh is probably sitting on the toilet going, oh, like a whimper slash cry. I'm going to FaceTime him. Lamar Jackson. I didn't realize that he got up and left. I started to interrupt, but that's a big moment. He's a professional. You think Joe Buck calling the Super Bowl would ever leave?

No. No chance. No chance. He has, in fact, peed during a game. Yeah, but Shkreli is back. Hang on for that. Hang on, hang on. I'm not pumped yet because I'm going to FaceTime Jake Marsh.

Hey. Hey, Jake. We're waiting for you. We stopped. We didn't realize. Did you think the show was over? Are you in the kitchen? No, I told you the sandwich.

Are you crying? No, I'll be there in a minute. No, just tell us your who's back. My who's back is a oldest Chapman blowing saves. OK. Kind of like you're blowing your asshole out right now. Exactly. Shout out to the likes.

He's giving up an earned run and five straight starts. And it's not good. You say earned runs? He's a starter? I didn't know he started games, Jake. Oh, wow. That actually is a huge mistake, Jake. He said five straight games.

No, he said starts. Oh, no. I heard games. Oh, he did? OK. He starts. No, he says starts. I disavowed myself trying to hop on Henry Lockwoods.

No, reavow. Reavow. We're going to go watch the tape and figure out what he said. Sorry, I reavowed. All right, bye, Jake. Its appearance is, Jake, just so you know. Double wipes. It's not starts when he comes in the ninth.

OK. OK. That was Jake Marsh's who's back. But Martin Screlly's out of prison. So we've got to get the band back together. They let him out. I think he was supposed to be in jail for another two years. But he got off for good behavior.

So. Happy for his cats. Very happy for his cats. He's probably just going to become an actual drug dealer now. Doesn't he have a girlfriend? Remember that story of the woman who fell in love with him? That happens all the time. Like, dudes go to prison for, like, the nastiest shit.

And they just get girls that want to start dating them. That's actually the best way, like, if you're. Bad boys. If you're looking for a slump buster. Bad boys. It's great. Like, you don't have to worry about doing all the stupid chores with them.

Right. I think this is actually an episode of Seinfeld where George dated a girl on the inside. Right. Right. Conjugal visit sex must be pretty nice. But yeah, he's out. So we will have to get the band back together.

People forget he was on part of my take back in 2016. It got very contentious. Yes. With him. And I think we started a band with Martin Shkreli. Yeah, we found. All-time contentious. As we found.

Maybe the most he'd have ever heard you, PS. I think I told him I was going to, like, I think I said I was going to eat his mom's clip like a hungry, hungry hippo. Like, big, bad booty daddy style. We don't say that name around here. Little dick booty daddy now. OK. So yeah, he's getting out of prison.

Also, that dovetails in nicely with my other who's back. Pop punk is back. Nice. Because I can now announce, and the full announcement of this festival lineup is going to be made today, Monday at 10 AM. The Oceans Calling Music Festival in Ocean City, Maryland. It's like a big deal.

I've seen what the lineup's going to be. I can't say the other acts, but it's like 17-year-old me would bust a nut going to this festival. It's a pretty solid lineup. Wait, when is the headliner for the day that you're playing going to be announced? Today at 10 AM. 10 AM.

It is crazy. It's not. No, I was sitting with you guys when it all came together. It's not. So I think it's running September 30 through October 2. We're playing on that Saturday. Love it. And yeah, it should be a good time.

So if you're in the Ocean City, Maryland area, come down, check it out. Tickets go on sale on Wednesday, May 25. So that's this Wednesday. So it's going to be me, Roan, Robbie, Frankie, whole squad. Martin Screlly. And Martin Screlly. Yeah, playing there.

We should. You should get him on for one song. You know what we should do? For one song. He should DJ our set with the Wootang. Oh, and Nick Hamilton too. Nick Hamilton playing rhythm guitar. But we should get Screlly on there DJing the Wootang out.

Yeah, yeah. That would be great. All right, my who's back is Joel Embiid. He won the MVP finally. So I love this story. The Philadelphia City Council passed a resolution naming Joel Embiid, most valuable, Philadelphian. Oh, wow.

Yeah. They literally, there's an actual document that lists it. That must be just a laundry list of. I hope. Yeah, we've got to see who else is on that list. I hope to God that they put this up as a banner in the Wells Fargo. I think it's the Wells Fargo arena.

That, I mean, it really is the cult's jokes come to life. Most valuable, Philadelphian. OK, so I'm looking it up right now. Oh, here comes Jake. I think he's the first most valuable Philadelphian. He might be. The inaugural. I voted for Donchich, actually.

Yeah. On that one. I had Luca. I was, I was Giannis for most valuable Philadelphian. Jake is back. Tell us how that went. Just made a poor decision eating wise tonight. I went with the crowd.

I shouldn't have gone with the crowd. So Jake, question for you. Telling you just got caught drinking. Yeah, mom, I'm sorry. Everyone put someone pulled out the rumplements. Bad influences. We had a couple shots. Jake, 18th hole today.

Walking up. Justin Thomas is about to win the PGA championship. Come back from seven strokes down. Jim Nance has the runs. Do you think he goes and takes the poop? Yeah, no. I think we got to. I think you just answered that.

I think we have to find you, Jake. I think you just answered that. I held in for as long as possible. Unbelievable. You really sound like you got run over by a truck. He just pooped. He's so disappointed in himself. I forgive you because of your disappointment.

I don't. I mean, low key. 2-1 heat. It was low key, 2-1 heat. But yeah, you're suspended for a month. OK, let's get to. I've got Billy's who's back of the week. Oh, OK.

Low key? Billy's who's back of the week is Jack Nicklaus. Nice. There was a lawsuit. There's a lawsuit being filed. No joke, this happened the day after Billy did his Jack Nicklaus thing. There's a company that owns Jack Nicklaus's name.

He signed away the rights to his name to a marketing company that would then bring in all the new ad deals and appearances and shit like that for him. So he doesn't have control over his own name. And apparently he's low key been using his own name when he's not supposed to be using it. He's getting sued $180 million for using the name Jack Nicklaus for himself.

He should just change his name to Jack Nicklaus. Correct. And this all would have been avoided. Billy was right. Damn. That's crazy to give up your name. Yeah, I mean, I would do it for the right amount of money. Yeah, that seems like a Lou Pearlman early 2000s

boy band deal. Yeah. We were like, yeah, let me just sign everything away. I own your name for like $50,000 up front. If you had told me that in 1995, I'd be like, yep, OK, don't easy, easy. My name is not that valuable. Yeah.

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going to probably do some NBA predictions. That will be very wrong. So for right now, Jason Tatum's a fraud. Jason Tatum's a fraud. Jimmy Butler might be the best player in the world. OK, so let's start there. There's actually a good start. Because we had John Sallion last week,

and he was basically like, I'm done. I don't do the who's the goat rankings. It's like the best player in a decade, you can say. And Kevin Durant's talked about this. It's disrespectful to do a top five every other day. As someone who played, no big deal. Yes. Do you think that that whole like, hey, who's top five right

now is just stupid? I do. Yeah, I think it's absolutely insane. But I'm also in this business where we have to talk about that stuff. So it's very confusing. I don't really know how to do it. Right.

It's whoever lasts longest. We can just start right now, who's your top five. Can you tell? It's whoever lasts longest. Whoever won the game, and that we just got done watching, the best player on that team, is he the best player in the world? And the guy who lost needs more help.

That's how you talk about it. Jason Tatum was great. But Max Trues. Because we're recording this again, after the heat Celtic team won. So that was my reaction last night. Was that Jason Tatum needed more help, and Jimmy Baller might be the best player in the world.

Yes. What do you think about this take? It was actually bad for Luca's development as a pro, that they made it this far. It would have been better for him, and better for the Mavericks. You're going with the macro, like the way this league works, is like Jordan had to lose to the Celtics,

and then the bad boys, and then he had to figure it out. Not too much. It's the Trey Young. Trey Young, you can make the argument that going to the Eastern Conference Final in 2021 was bad for Trey Young in the office. Is winning a title actually be bad for Luca? Yeah, you have to lose first.

Yes. And so with Trey Young, the only counter-argument against that is the Hawks making the Eastern Conference Finals, that is their equivalent of a championship. True. That's like a dynasty, actually, for the city of Atlanta, is if you make it that far. But with Luca, I wasn't truly believing it.

But you could be like, hey, if you lost in the second round, then the Mavericks would be more hard-pressed to put more people around him, as opposed to just making him be the guy, and try to be the guy over and over and over again. It's also very similar to the process with Philly. It's the dog chasing a car. We're like, the Rams win a Super Bowl, and everyone's like, yeah, but, dude, they got no picks,

and then it's salary back down. So it's almost sports has become almost about the window, then winning the title. That's PFT, in that your thing, when if Saban doesn't win a national title, you're like, it's good for him, and you can actually start recruiting. Yeah, right, no, he can coach hard.

A fire gets lit underneath him. He's like, oh, god damn it. I'm going to go on a murdering spree next year. We should do that. We should just change to be fans of windows. We're just so big fan. If the Bills don't, I hope the Bills win a Super Bowl with Josh Allen, but if they don't, we'll be like,

but they had the window. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Like, the goal is, I mean, isn't that the, that's kind of what the Celtics have become, and that's what, it's like the Daryl Maury plan is like, you're not trying to actually win a title. You're trying to keep the window open as long as possible. Yeah, it's the championship is not the goal anymore.

The dynasty. The dynasty. Yeah, right, you can't win in one. Anyone can do. It is actually, it does work in baseball. I do agree with it in baseball. We're like, Theo always said, like, you just, the goal is to make the playoffs every year,

because it's so random what happens after the playoff. Like, once you're in the playoffs, the role of the dice is like, just get there every year, and then eventually something will break your way. Right. Like a rainstorm. I think college basketball is a little like that. Like it's different groups of players every year or whatever,

but I think like you kind of have your moments as, as programs where it feels sort of similar to like, I don't, not, not to derail it from. No, no. We should talk about it. We always like coach K is dead. Yeah. Now I know that you're a big coach K fan.

I know that your podcast is famously like massively. The number one coach K podcast in the world. Off the top of your head, you know how much money he made as a percentage in 2020, as a percentage of his entire program, what they brought in in terms of their revenue, how much do you think went? It wouldn't be much because he's,

he's a leader of men and he doesn't do it for the money. He's, he's on record to say he doesn't do it for the money. So I, I would say he probably pulled in like 600 grand. Yeah. Yeah. It's like 30 times that much. So he, he ended up getting like, I think the math breaks down to around 40% of all the revenue

that Duke brings in through the basketball program, went directly into coach K's pocket. He's Don Frenuch and Godfather, where he's just like, oh, that's mine. Do you think Roy Williams purposely took less money because he knew K was taking so, cause that's like, Yeah. Like Carolina fans get really,

they love pointing out that Roy, Roy was, cause the, the, the Duke point of view would be like, well coach K has the biggest brand in college basketball. He deserves to be paid that much. Yada, yada, yada. But then right down the road, Carolina has a huge, the coach of Carolina could be making just as much.

And Roy was making like a million and a half a year. Well, it's genius. I think he was doing it on purpose. Yeah. It's genius to take less. And then just make your money doing other, like speaking engagements and fucking basketball camps and, and you know, commercials.

Like the coach K salary is probably half of what he makes total, but it was funny because when coach K salary was released, it was that feeling. And I think everyone can relate to it. When you go on like a great bachelor party with your friends and you have the group text chain and it's a great time and everything's popping off.

And then Monday you get back and maybe there's a couple of stray ones and then nothing for a while. And then like a month later, someone will think of something or a story and they'll hit it. And you'd be like, oh, fuck, that was awesome. When coach K's salary gets released,

Titus texted me and Tate and it was like, oh yeah, remember when we retired coach K? That was awesome. I think you go back, the history of our conversations are always just like in the month of March about coach K. It was this year and then there's nothing for 11 months so that it was last March. Yeah.

We were. Is that cool? I'm gonna miss him. Have you thought about like what you were gonna do? Because your podcast, our podcast as well, there was a lot of coach K content because he forced it on us with his retirement tour. What's like-

I don't think the party's over, Dan. Okay, good. I think like what nobody's talking about is that coach K, this man has retired. He did, so you remember as soon as he retired, guys like you and I were like, I don't think he's done yet. I think he's gonna come back. He lost to Carolina twice.

He has to come back. And then J Williams goes on first take, was it? And he was like, I think coach K, the door might be open. So then coach K does an interview. I think it was with Sean Farnham where coach K did an interview like right after the J Williams comments and he said, definitively I am done coaching at Duke University.

I am not the coach. I'm ready to hand the reins over to John Shire. And he was wearing a Duke basketball polo. He was sitting in the Duke basketball head coach's office with a Duke basketball logo behind him. And he's like, the king was sitting on the throne. He's like, I am not your king anymore. Please stop talking about this.

I don't know how much more clear I could be. I'm done with Duke University. And then, you know, those of us that are like, I don't know if he's done. And then everyone's like, well, you're crazy for thinking he might not be done. Right. I'm going based off of what this man is doing.

I think that's gonna be interesting. I really do, like he's not gonna go fishing. So he's gonna be, I don't actually think he's gonna coach Duke this year, but I do think he's gonna be around the program. I do, I have been told he hasn't given up his office. Yeah, no, he never will. That like his, his, like, in my understanding

is when you're not no longer the coach, you pack up your shit, you get out, the new coach comes in. He has kept his office. John Shire, they had to figure something else out. He's got a temporary office with like the makeshift cubicles they put up. So Kay is gonna be around. And I guess that's gonna be maybe until Kay dies,

he's gonna be a content machine or content gold mine because there's always like the moment Duke loses three games in a row. We're gonna be talking about, okay, we're gonna take over and all that sort of stuff. We can also have the conversation. We can play the what if game, because I feel kind of robbed

that he never went to the NBA. I think it would have been great if he had gone to the NBA because I'm positive that he would have sucked. He would have like quit on his team after half a year, gone back to college, made like, hey, can I have my job back? We can have the what if game,

be like Coach K would be a worse head coach than Cal Perry was when he was a head coach. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Why not? He's the worst NBA coach to never have coached in the NBA. Yeah, yes, that's a fact. Speaking of Cal, we're gonna do our Kentucky sports radio hit

in I think June 6th, I wanna say. Something like that. We've been cherry picking a couple of stats here and there. We've got a guy that we use on this program, Stathole Sports, that has done some great research for us. We think this year we're gonna have to flip it. We're gonna have to be like,

Coach Cal needs more time. Yeah, he's building something. You guys are being impatient. Like you ran Brad out of town. You gotta bring him back and have him be officially named as the coach in waiting of Kentucky. And not only that,

but just lean into what Cal really cares about is just draft picks. Just list all the draft picks and be like listen guys. Max contracts and these guys aside. Total NBA earnings is something I will have to look up. Also, you wanna talk about window. With Cal, your window's always open. The way that he recruits,

it's like you've got the biggest window, probably the longest running window. That's a great point. Cal might have invented the window at the college level. Because when Kentucky doesn't win a national championship, he's quick to remind everybody about like the draft picks he has, the recruits coming in, that the window is still open,

the Kentucky window is still open. There's always next year. Kentucky is the number one, like there's always next year program. Yeah, I think they're the bluest of the bloods. Yeah, I agree with that. I would agree with that. If you hire somebody to replace Coach Cal,

I don't know who you think you're gonna get, but his blood's not gonna be that blue. Like Coach Cal brings in a certain element, a certain spotlight to the program that you won't find from anybody else off the street. Were you shocked by Jay Wright? It is shocking. A little bit, yeah.

I mean, how could you not be? I- You sound really shocked. Yeah, wow. You're asking me about a month after. Well, we haven't seen you in a while. I'm not shocked a month later. Every day I wake up and I'm like, fuck, yeah, really?

Jay Wright? Not there? Well, Jay Wright, he always seemed smarter than everybody else. That was why he's a great coach. I think maybe part of him was like, I don't need to do that. I honestly wonder if some part of him saw Coach K

and was like, that is not me. I don't want that to be me. I don't want to be 75 years old. I don't want to be fodder for everyone. And then telling everybody- Coach K killed Coach Jack. Yeah, yeah, he did, he did. Yeah, I respect it, man.

Like, if I was Jay, if I was a lot of these guys, I would retire the second I get a chance to. And you're right off in the sun. Now, are you doing, are you the NIL, like, is changing everyone's life? I do think that, yeah. I do think that. I think, I do believe that, and it's weird

because when you talk to people behind the scenes and off air, everybody, it's quick to tell you that it's not necessarily bullshit, but it's just like different. The game has changed so much that I think you, the coaches that were good at the previous game are not as good or like, they just don't recognize what the game has become.

And if, but if you ask them on air, if you put Jay right in the seat and asked him, he'd be like, no, I had nothing to do with it. But I do think if you, if you got him off air and like got some, some true serum in him, he'd be like, I can't do this. I don't want to, I don't want to try to figure out what this landscape is.

Which is very funny because coach, like it's the first time coach's salaries have gone crazy. And now essentially it's like, you just have to do your job more. And they're like, no, fuck that. Well, you have a, I was talking to a mid major coach at the final four and he told me that two of his, his better guys were told him

like that week that they were transferring. And they were two guys that were starters, two guys that he gave a ton of minutes to, two guys that had great seasons, two guys that went into his office and said, thanks so much coach, we love you. I love my time here. Everything was great.

Now I'm going to go use the opportunity that you provided me to go somewhere else. And he was like, it blew my mind because for so long the transfers were, fuck you, you didn't play me enough. Right. I'm going to go somewhere to get minutes. Now it's like, thank you so much for doing everything you promised you would do.

Now I'm going to go to, now I'm going to try to go to Kentucky. I think Drew Valentine will be fine though. Yeah. Is that who it was? No. How much money? Actually, maybe not how much. What would you have done in NIL deals

when you were in college? Oh yeah. What types of organizations would have been in you? The Club Trillion brand. Yeah, the Club Trillion are like local businesses. Yeah, would you have been one of those guys who like, does the fake, oh, buy a Club Trillion for charity?

Or would you have been like, no. I did do that. Oh, whoops. All right. Would you, so. I did do that. Would you be making money off Club Trill? I was told, we sold shirts my senior year

and the number I was told was that I raised 55 grand for one of the local charities in Columbus. Wow. And the guy who, which. I would have matched, by the way, if we had known you by the back then. I would have doubled. How many Club Trill shirts did everyone in this room buy?

It was for Sick Kids too, by the way. No, man, all right, I would have doubled, I would have doubled. So he would have quadrupled. And the guy who runs the charity still treats me like I'm a saint. And it's still like, if I called him right now, he would clear a schedule and make time to talk to me on the phone and like, just, you know.

He thinks that I walk on water because he'll just pull me aside and be like, you were 21, 22 years old and you had the heart to help these Sick Kids. And I've tried to explain to him a million times. I couldn't keep the money. Like, if I could keep the money. We wouldn't know each other. Yeah, we wouldn't know each other.

That's great. No, it's great. It was really frustrating for me because I lost my scholarship. I was actually put on scholarship for two years. Not that I deserved it, but they had extra scholarships and I had, my first years at Ohio State, I was on scholarship.

And then I got my scholarship pulled because we had academic problems as a program because we had so many guys going to the NBA early. And so Coach Mada told me he was pulling my scholarship. I had the best GPA on the team and we were punished for academic reasons. So I didn't have a scholarship, but I also couldn't profit off my name.

So I was like stuck in this weird no man's land of like. Yeah, you're the poster child of why the NIL should work. Now, did that Mada have a sense of humor where he like did one of those big viral videos of the team pulling your scholarship? Because that would be funny. That actually would have been funny. Like Mark, we got your parents here

and your parents are just bawling, crying. They're like, we don't know how we're gonna afford this. They have to sign a check. They have to be in of it. That would have been great. So you got a scholarship initially to go there, like right out of high school. No, I went to be a manager then,

I quit that because I was lied through about what being a manager was then. Why, what was being a manager? I was told I was like gonna be a practice player. By John Gross, who's the head coach at Acron now. He was an assistant. Could turn Iran, yeah. Illinois, yeah.

He told me he's like, if you're a manager, you will be able to practice with the guys. He's like, you don't have to come in every day, but like when you're here, you know, we'll have you run scout team. And I was like, that sounds cool. Like I don't have to be fully committed because I understand how much time commitment this is.

So I was like, I'll be a normal student, but like three days a week, I'll come practice with division one players who happen to be some of my friends. That's a great setup, I'll come do that. And on day one, they had me wiping up Greg Sweat and filling up water bottles and filming practice. And I was so shitty about it that I quit.

And then they asked me to come back because they didn't have enough guys to do five on five. Wow. That's how I got on the team. And then they weren't using all the scholarships. You get like 13 scholarships and we only had like 11 guys on scholarship. So they just said, do you want one?

And I was like, yeah. So I went from normal student at Ohio State to five weeks later, I was on scholarship for what ended up being a final four basketball team. I love that that's how you got your scholarship too. They were like, that model was like looked under the couch. You're like, yeah, we got another one here. All right, you take it.

You have to wonder how many people have like quit their student manager job on the first day. Yeah, right. And then tried to follow that. Or like the other way around, how many people just accepted the manager job on the first day, even though it wasn't what they wanted. And maybe that's the next Jordan,

but they didn't have the balls like you to stand up and be like, no, I'm better than this. Yeah, yeah. That's great. What if. What schools were you thinking about going to besides Ohio State? Do you ever think maybe I should have just gone, you know, division three or smaller division one and played?

No, I thought about it after my sophomore year. Because my freshman year, I was fat on the team because I didn't think I was going to play basketball. I graduate high school. All summer, I do no working out of any kind. I'm just getting ready for college. And then I get put on the team. And I was just trying to get back in shape.

We won the Big 10. We were ranked number one for a few weeks. And I didn't play. And that made sense to me. I was like, we have one of the best teams in the country. Kind of checks out that my fat ass wouldn't get in there. The next year, we didn't even make the tournament. We ended up winning the NIT.

And I didn't think I should be getting a ton of minutes, but I was watching John Diebler shoot 29% from the three-point line as a freshman. And I was like, I don't know. Maybe throw me in there and see what I could do. And maybe I'll make one or two. And Coach Mada, after that season, told me he's never going to play me because he actually

recruited these other guys. And he explained it to me. He's like, I put resources into getting these guys. He's like, you just showed up on my doorstep one day. So he said, I will never play you over. Like, he was really nice about it weirdly. Right. But that's like him essentially admitting,

like, I just don't want to admit that I was wrong. Yeah, basically, yeah. So that's when I completely gave up. And I decided either I'm going to transfer to a tiny school and try to average 20 a game at like a Division III school. Or I'm just going to ride out these next two years and just have a sick time riding the bench. Try to save some sick kids from here.

Try to save some sick kids. I think you made the right choice. So that was that. What's the best game that you've ever played? Good question. Thanks. Great question. Oh, thanks.

I don't know. How do you answer that? Are you? I had some great practices. Yeah, no, tell me about it. Is that what you want to say? Yeah, they're still talking about it. You want to go over my best trillions I ever had.

Yeah, like, what legends? I played. There was one game I played. So I usually never got in before the final media timeout. That was when the final media timeout hits. That's when I start stretching. And I'm like, all right, it could happen at any time now. It's a big blowout.

There was one time when there was like five and a half minutes left. We were playing Iowa at home. And we were beating the shit out of them. And Coach Mod had turned to me and he's like, mark it in there. And I was like, no. What are you talking about? I was like, Coach, look at the clock.

He's like, no, he's like, I don't want our guys to get hurt. We've had a tough week of practice. He's like, I need you to burn the clock. Oh my god, that was five and a half minutes is very, very different from one minute of just drilling the clock out like five minutes. Because at that point, they still had some of their better players in.

Oh my god. So that was definitely the most memorable game I've ever played at Ohio State was that I didn't do anything. I still did the same. I still did the same song and dance of just running up and down the court. The Tony Stem. Yeah, I still did the snow.

I played basketball with Titus this morning. And one, he can still shoot the fucking lights out. It was great. It was awesome to watch because we basically got there first five minutes. He missed everything. He's like, oh, man, I'm so outed like I haven't played in so long. And then he hit one and he hit like 50 in a row.

And I was like, OK. And I also learned that Titus is that annoying guy who will shoot a three and say short and it'll be nothing but that. Every single time. Nothing but that. He's like, oh, short. And it's just a fucking perfect switch. I'm just like, all right, cool.

Can I say this? And I mean this not because we're on air, but I genuinely mean this. And I think it's important that your listeners understand this. You're much better at basketball than I thought you would be. You said that and I was like, I was stunned. I think that's a compliment. That's like people are like, you're not as fat as I think.

Well, I watched the video of you playing in LA. Yeah, that was. You guys are hamming it up, obviously. Well, I was. Yeah, a couple of the guys had never touched a basketball. Well, I mean, to be fair, people that would then watch, I don't know, you blur the lines well enough of what's real and what are you hamming up or whatever.

So to see, you got a good stroke. Yeah, shout out to Swish House. We just go and get shots up. And it's like the best thing ever. You have zero. I miss playing basketball. You have zero stamina, though. I didn't notice that.

No, by the end, it was a disaster. Did you guys play five on five? No, Swish House is this place I've been going where they basically like it's like you basically run basketball practice. And so you run through a bunch of drills, agility drills, shooting drills. You get like, I don't know, we got like 300 shots up each. But by the end, it was just my shirt was soaked

and I was just I couldn't walk. And you could tell it's like this guy put him on the line at the end of a game because there's not. He won't be able to hit anything because it's just it gasses out. I think I could you have you have a great natural stroke, though, honestly, and I think we could work with that. Yes, I think I want to run like a I want to run like a sports media basketball camp for who are you?

All right, so let's jump off there. And who's your starting five? Who's your starting five in sports media? PFT, could you play? I can touch the rim. I did see that. That's a fact. I did see that.

A lot of people are like, yo, they box themselves into a little trap of like is when I'm staying next to the hoop, it's a bad visual because optical illusion wise, it looks like it's twice as high up as I am. Yeah, but either they have to admit that I either one have like a 48 inch vertical leap and I'm able to touch this rim somehow or two that I'm not actually five, six. Yeah, you really put them in a box.

I box them in pretty nice. Also, I'm always on the lookout for a rim that's like three inches shorter. Yes. Then all the other because they exist somewhere in the city. So I like I look at them, I take a mental note and I'm like, I'm going to go back to that one and just grab it. So are you the guy at a pickup game that is as everyone else is trying

to fill out the ball and get their legs warmed up and everything? You're just jumping up and popping the rim to intimidate you. Everyone. No, watch this guy. I can't pop around. I'll jump up. I'll like hit the net really hard. Try to like swoop swoop it over the top.

I'll just jump up like hit the backboard. Now, honestly, my game is basically like I will bring the ball up the court. I can dribble OK. And then I'll just pass it as soon as I can. You know, you should start doing that. I had a buddy who's this he couldn't dunk, but he like when you're out of pickup game and it's warming up, he would he would jump and climb the rim and then like loudly like bang on the rim.

And I was like, whoa, what was that? He would just pull himself up off off the net and he would just bang on the rim. I'll tell you, I should not be in your starting five. I should be like a starting five backup point guard that comes in and I exist on the court for like two minutes. Then I get to fuck off. Yeah, that's all media. So like Stephen A. Smith, wet jumper, not former players, not former players.

Can't let me ask you guys this. Do I count as a former player? And this is like any time these hypotheticals come up, I can never tell. Like if I'm if I'm not picked, is that because people think I'm like an actual player? If I am picked, should I be insulted by that? Because you're saying that like I was not like, yeah, I don't actually count as a. Why don't you fill out your starting five around you? So there we go.

Your team that you would pick if you were kept can't have played in the NBA. I think I got to start with Rassillo, right? Yes, if I don't if I don't say Rassillo at one enforcer. Yeah, he's he's he's he's down bad now. He's yes, he is. Oh, did you text him out of nowhere? Just like, hey, I'm sorry. Just text him.

No, you should wait like a week later. Don't text him right now. Text him right now. Are you doing all right? Like, hey, man, I know it's been a few days, but sorry about Chris. Hey, man, I'm going to do it right now. Because I called him on Monday night. He's like, I've never felt like a bigger loser because everyone keeps

calling me like, like someone died in my family. And it's just Chris Paul lost a playoff game, which happens every year. Literally every year, since he's been in the NBA, he hasn't won a title. Yeah, just be like, hey, man, wanted to give you a little time to process everything. But also just wanted to make sure you're good. I actually think that that Recillo probably received more. Hey, are you all right? Check-in messages than Chris Paul did.

Yes, definitely, definitely. Oh, hey, man, wanted to give you this is what I'm going with. Hey, man, wanted to give you a little time to process everything, but also just want to make sure you're good. Hits in. Yeah, he's going to be like, what the fuck lose this number. I hope he's recording right now. Yeah.

So I think I think the problem with with that was do you think that Ryan actually cares about Chris Paul that much? Or do you do you think like the moment that that that he realizes it's not going to happen? He now is put in a position where it's less about like I wanted Chris Paul to be successful more about like I'm going to have to eat shit about this. Yeah, I don't know if he cares about Chris Paul the human. He might. He might. Oh, yeah, he might. Yeah. Oh, he does. Yeah.

I mean, when he had that whole like Chris Paul cares more than everyone else. I want to be my son. But that also might be because we fall into this trap a lot too, where we care about an athlete, but it's mostly because we want to feel right about our take. Right. Right. Or friends. I don't think he's friends with Chris. What is the I was very heavy on the University of Virginia basketball when they lost to UMBC.

I thought I had Virginia won the National Championship. They lost to a 16 seed by 20. I did not jump off the bandwagon. I wrote it the next season. They did win the National Championship. So I kind of know what Ryan's going through. So if you did this analogy, Paul is going to win it next year.

Well, I was going to say, if you did this analogy, Virginia basketball is 37 years old and they probably only have a year or two left in their whole history. Have either of you had a situation like that beyond your favorite because I asked you this off air, Dan, you're like, well, my favorite team suck ass and that sucks. But I mean, like a take where you're like, this guy's a fraud. He's definitely a fraud. And then now you have to watch him win an MVP or win a title or something along those lines.

Yeah. So mine usually the reverse where it's like two years ago or two years ago, three years ago, where I was like the Ravens are frauds and they had the one seed. And like if they had one, I would have had to eat so much shit. Yeah. They lost to the Titans. So I turned to be like right about it. But yeah, you definitely get a point. I also think for Rocillo, it's and we're a part of the problem. It's an argument that he's arguing that Chris Paul is really, really good.

And we're arguing he has no title. So he sucks. Right. So it's like when we can just keep doing that, it's got to be crazy frustrating for someone who actually like watches the games and like has has nuanced takes like Rocillo to see idiots like us be like, yeah, but no rings, bro. Right. So and then but then even if he does want to ring, it doesn't fully count because of who his teammates were. Like what the. Oh, we would have absolutely found a way out of that.

Have you had that PFT of like a take you were married to? And you're like, I'm 100 percent right. I know I'm right. There are a lot of them. I mean, I'm wrong. I'm wrong all the time. All the time. But yeah, if you don't admit that you're wrong, then you're just not trying hard enough. That's what I'm saying. Like then your takes are too, too vanilla. So I mean, I was wrong about Ryan Tannehill for a little bit, but then he proved me right. Ultimate.

So I was like, you know, I had always been saying, Ryan Tannehill will never take the next step. He was always the he's going to take the next step guy. Just wait till next year. And then, you know, he got pretty good for like a season and a half, two seasons. And then he regressed. And really, it's mostly the way that he ended the last season with those three interceptions in the playoffs against the Bengals,

where I can be like, see, I told you all along. I was right. Forgetting the entire body of evidence that took place like the year and a half before that, where he played like an above average quarterback for most of the time. But I'm sure that there are probably millions of examples of things that I've been a million percent wrong about. Usually what PFT and I do is we were wrong and then we switch and then we're double wrong.

Yeah, I was right. I thought the Bengals were like not a Super Bowl caliber team. Like I was like, I think the I think the Titans are going to beat them, Ryan Tannehill, through three picks. I think the Chiefs are going to beat them. That second half happened. Then we get to the Super Bowl and I'm like, I believe in the Bengals. And then they lost.

So it's like that happens all the time. So that's that's a little bit. Bayless, he said, I was wrong about, hang on. I'm just reading now. It's it's funnier than I remember. He was talking about the Clippers. This was, I believe, last year. I was wrong about being wrong about the Clippers and a shock to me.

I was ultimately right. Now they have a very good shot at winning it all, as I originally predicted. So you can like double back and triple back on yourself. Tate introduced me to the phrase, right, logic, wrong pick. Yeah, yeah. That material, material change. I like that right, logic, wrong pick. He was talking about a game where he's like, this is going to be just a rock

fight of a game, you know, it's going to be ugly. It's going to be low scoring. And I think that favors team A and a game like this. And then team B, it is a rock fight and team B wins. And then he's like, I told you, or team A wins in a blowout. And then you're like, I was right about team A, but I was wrong about the rock right. Yeah, right, right.

Yeah, you can always give yourself an escape hatch. That's I think that's probably what frustrates or so the most because he actually he when he gives a take, he thinks about it. And that's why people love him because he's he's giving you actual like, this is how I feel. He doesn't give himself an escape hatch. What do you say? I think I said it.

I'll just say, I think what might frustrate him the most now is me texting him like six days after the fact. But that's what he's going to hear this and be like, oh, wow, he picked me first overall. Yeah, that's good. OK, yeah, it's great point. We should go back to that. Rassillo, I would take one.

I've never seen a play. I've seen him. I've seen him shoot a basketball. I've seen video of him shoot a that's good. Yeah, he's got a good bird. You know, you know, he knows the game. You saw the photo dump. Yeah, I saw the photo dump. Yeah, he had to clear up the space in his camera.

Should we pick SVP? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's all right out there at five. Yeah, absolutely. And you have chemistry built in chemistry with SVP and right. So you're you're like, good. They're playing a little two man game. You can always rely on that.

I'm trying to think of who else. Wind horse. Who else? Windy beast down low. The ground mound of rebound. Who else would I throw out there? I'm trying to think of people who haven't because I guess there's not a lot of guys or girls who have not played, who talk about the game.

You could also go cross sport. Like Stephen A. Smith would be a bad pick. Yeah, I think like Romo is probably sick, right? But yeah, I feel like former professional athletes should be off the list. Tarell Owens, the celebrity All-Star game. Just I think Jim Nance could probably throw some bows down low. Yeah, twin towers.

Jim Nance and Scott van Pelt. That'd be nice. Just Bill Johnson. Yeah, it's like Bill Raftery count as a former player at this point. No, I don't think anymore. Yeah, I think you could throw him out. Yeah, yeah, it's been a it's been a long time that he's been a minute.

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He is the king of holding court. Like that's what I think of the phrase like holding court. I think of Bill Raftery at a bar in New York City. And he doesn't even do it on purpose. It's him and Bob Huggins in the college basketball community. They don't even do it on purpose. They just like walk into a bar. They sit down like they would if there were a million people in the bar,

if there was nobody in the bar and then just gravity works its magic. And people just slowly start hounding them and listening to all their stories. He's amazing. He wouldn't know if I'm going to introduce myself to him every single time I see him. There's zero chance he knows me or there's any world in which he would remember me. But yeah, like I every time I'm around that guy, I just kind of like slowly gravitate towards wanting to hear whatever the hell he's talking about.

He's the best. I always picture him holding a crystal glass with brown liquor in it. Just like neat. Yeah, not even drinking it. Yeah, just hold it. Just like he's getting drunk, but he never takes a sip. You never see him drink it. He seems to have a story about everything.

Every bar in this, especially like New York, he's got like every. He I hate this city. I hate New York so much. Every time I come here, I I really do. This is my least favorite place on earth. And I think I mean, like what about the garden? Yeah, or like Kiev right now. It's true.

That's a good point. I've never been though. So I don't know. I don't know. You can't you can't trust the media. What they're saying about it. Maybe it's nicer than I feel like you have right now is probably like spirits are high. Like right now.

No, think about it right now. You're defending. You've defended your city against a fucking empire. Yeah. And like the camaraderie there's got to be off the charts. Yeah. I no comment. I don't I don't know.

I don't know. What do you think about what Roe v. Wade? What's your take? Who you got? Who do you got? Let's go. Hot take. Where are you?

You're the Roe v. Wade. You're the business. Who you got one in that one? You got your Roe v. Wade bracket. Well, I should put it in a parlay like, all right, I got the Warriors. I got Roe v. Wade.

What's the spread on the Supreme Court? I think I got I think I got them striking it down by one and a half. Oh, man. Oh, my God. All right. So the media team. Yes, we got Wind Horse. I like this team.

I didn't think about that. Raff three, I was going to say he's the one. I he's listening to that man talk about New York City. That's like the one man I think can like give me to like the city. I was I was going to say. I do think when anyone talks about New York City basketball, it gets like like we like I said, we had John Sally on it was like, hey, just tell us about New York City basketball for a second.

We're about to stand Van Gundy. Oh, he can bring the board. We're just a piece of work. We're worried about our cardio. We're a team. We're a 9C. Have you seen him dribble? No, Stan.

Stan's got handles like big time. Absolute. He's your point guard. Does he count as a former player? Yeah, I guess. Well, no, I don't think so. I think it's been long enough like eight himself out of former player.

Wait, so it's Rocillo Titus. It's not bad, by the way. I'll shout out to you. Yeah, take it be on the team. I like this. He's not he's not bad. Stan Van and Wind Horse, too. It's like nice because you can do a sub package where it's like

they probably compliment each other. Stephen A has to be able to play a little bit. I've seen a video of him airballing a shot, which I mean, I guess we all airball shots, but that's always tough. I mean, if I was Stephen A, I would never, ever take a shot. It's like when you're a politician and you're like traveling the country, there's cameras all around you. Yeah, you should never shoot a basketball.

Yeah, because like it's probably not going to go in. Yeah. And if you miss, that's going to be replayed all the time. That's like JJ Redick shooting free throws at the Duke game. Yeah, which yeah, he missed it. Which is like what's going on here. Why would you agree to do this? There's no against Miami.

This is Stan Van Gundy. He's got handles. Give me the ball. He says, give me the rock. I'm going to give you guys some pointers. He's you know what it is? Oh, wow. You always have to be afraid.

I would take him in a second. Yeah, he plays it off and he's like, do stuff like that. Because there is that guy in every in every like pick up game in America. The the the short fact guy that everyone's like, nah. And then he just starts wapping threes. You're like, whoops, he's amazing. Yeah, smooth. They're always smooth.

And you're like, OK, this this like at one point in their life, they were really good at basketball. I would take Stan. I put Stan on the team. But I just you were Silo SVP. Stan, who's got a point on this team? I think Wendy. I think we got to get some diversity on this team.

Yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, you're building this like it's like the old Kentucky. Oh, your old your old colleague Van Lathen. I think he would be pretty good. I do. Were you did you overlap with him? No, I don't think I ever I never met him. Where did it go wrong with you and the ringer?

Go back to Roe v. Wade. We're going to the Roe v. Wade questions. Let's break that down for a second. Oh, man. Oh, I heard. I think Jacobi is good from jail. Jacobi, Jacobi's probably good. Yeah, yeah, Jacobi shout out him.

Yeah, he could play. Yeah, he'll be on the team. I think Van Lathen's a good pick. All right, I'll trust you. Yeah, I know I've never played with him. He's also got like he Van Lathen to me. The we had dinner with him, I don't know, maybe a year ago. Talk to him every now and then.

He seems like a guy that would be just like everyone instantly respects in the locker room and like a glue guy that people like when he talks, people listen kind of thing. So I would put him in there. All right, maybe Jamie Erdall backup point guard. Oh, yeah, seems like she'd foul the shit out of you. She played too, right? Yeah, I played.

She played at OU, right? At Ohio. I think so. I think so, maybe. She seems like she seems like that's what I mean. Like Jamie Erdall is again, it's like on the one hand you feel like it's respectful to throw on the team, but on the other hand, maybe she's listening to this and she's like, what the hell?

Yeah, I had a great playing career. Yeah, like, yeah. Rachel Nichols LeBron stopper. Yeah. Oh, man. What was I fuck? I had one other thing I had to ask you and now I can't think of it.

Billy, what's your question for Mark? Don't say how was your Saturday? Actually, you can't. It's Monday. Billy, don't fall for it. What does your shirt say? It's Smock and T.C., Billy. I'm here for the dozen trivia. Yeah.

I know you're like Trill Ballans, Club Trillian. You thought I was Trill Ballans? There was a second. There was a second, I thought that. Just for a moment. Like when was the second? Like when I was here today or like when I first... No, when I knew everything through Twitter,

I was like Trill Stuff, Club Trillian. There's so many Trill... There's signs everywhere. I think that's how I ended up on the team. I'm the only guy that doesn't work at this company. Yeah. That's taking part in the dozen. So many different Trill burgers.

I was like, is Club Trillian another Trill burger? Yeah. Yeah. It counts. Trill's from Indianapolis, so I am too. And maybe that's... Yeah, a lot of people don't realize it actually took me like several years to figure this out about Trill Ballans after following him online for a while,

that his name, Trill Ballans, is just taking Phil Collins... Phil Collins, yeah. ...and changing the start of each word. Do you remember when we went to Wiggly for... One of the best games ever, it was the Miguel Montero Grand Slam. Was it not? Yeah. And Javi Baez stole home that game.

Yeah. And the... Game one. And then there was... Yeah. And it was like... It was the three of us. PFT had a broken foot. It was PFT, myself, you. Trill Ballans, I think Chaps is with us.

Chaps is with us. It was a great crew. Hank, were you there? Hank's not here in the room. Oh, Hank's not in the room. He's a... I know. Who's over there?

That's Memes. Oh, hey, Memes. Sorry. No, Hank is our boss now. He works upstairs. He wears a suit. He never is in the room when you do this. He wears a suit.

Never. Yeah. Never. No, he's... Oh, my God. Yeah. He can fire any of us. Well, that's exciting. He could hire you and then fire you immediately.

He could actually cancel Titus and Tate. He just called someone at Fox and be like, hey, numbers aren't good. Get rid of it. No, he'd just be like, do me a favor, ask those guys. He'd be like, okay, yeah, you know, I owe you one, Hank. He could. Be careful. That's... He's in the room. Yeah.

Jake Marsh. I'm a Jake Marsh fan. You did not include Jake in your starting spot. Yeah, Jake, what's your game like? What's the... Papa Shot King. Yeah, I can play Papa Shot. I can call the game for you.

Yeah. There we go. You know, Rostin, have you talked to him about playing basketball? No. That he proudly... Like playing basketball? What? No, Mark.

I love this about John Rostin that he's very open about this. He will proudly tell you that he's never touched a basketball. Yeah, right. He's allergic to him. Because a lot of the guys that talk about sports, you know, you get a little insecure about like, it is my level of competency playing good enough for me to talk about it. John is not that guy. John's like, I straight up do not touch a basketball, but here's who's going to win

the A-10 this year and why. And it is absolutely hilarious to me that he's that way. But Jake, you're not that way. You play. I have a... I can get hot from three, but I can also go 0-for-8 the next game. Okay, that's fine. I have a Jake Marsh adjacent question that is relevant to this conversation.

We're talking about retirement tours. Jim Bayheim, will he retire before he kills another person? Or is it going to be like two and then he retires? They said this every show. Well, Jake, you set us up for it last time. We actually love Buddy and... Buddy and Jimmy. I love them.

No, I love them. Yeah, we're just having fun. Some lighthearted ribbing about accidental vehicular manslaughter. He's going to just go forever though. Is he not? He's certainly not going to break. He's got to see his... You want to talk about windows.

This man sees his window with Kay, right? Kay's out of the way. Yeah, the front one. I was about to say it, but I don't want to say it. Oh, man. I'm sorry. It's just so easy. Like no offense.

No offense. Absolutely no offense. Yeah, it does feel like he's going to coach forever though. He's losing all his friends though. I think Kay was his only friend. If he... Because his sons are done, right now, Jake? Yeah.

Jerry McNamara's still there, but his other sons are off the team. But he's at the combines going on right now. They should have a father-son rule where the Bayhams should be able to play for as long as Jim is still there. You should get one franchise tag for college now. That should be the franchise tag, is that this guy can play for as long as we want. Yeah, it's my rule of like you can go back. So I think it should be all sports. And it should be as long as you graduated from there.

You can go back at any time. I've always said the argument is so simple because you just say, would you like to watch Tim Tebow play at Florida this morning? Yes. Yes. The answer is yes. We've talked about this before, but he can play football or he can't play football. You can play football.

No, you can play baseball. Every team gets one player that they have to have graduated from that college and Tom Brady could retire from the box and play a season for Michigan. Like how incredible would that be? Coach Kay goes back to Army. Yeah, right. Like this would be... Final run.

It would make sports so much fun where it's like, all right, what are we going to... Like who are we going to use this on? Is this guy washed up? Or do we want to keep him around? Devin Harris on the Badgers. I don't even know where Devin Harris is now. I think he retired a while ago, right? Yeah, I haven't heard that name in a while.

Or like a guy like Sam Decker who's a friend of ours. He's actually playing great overseas, great career. I think they won a championship. But at some point with NIL, he's like, oh, I could just live it like back in Wisconsin. I could play for the Badgers and make a shitload of money. This would be fun. Do you think Greg Gard would bring Sam Decker off the bench like Bo Ryan did? Yes, probably.

You asked about the take that I've probably been wrong about. Tom Izzo being overrated. I was wrong about that for a while. You said he was overrated. I wanted to be the first person to say that Tom Izzo was overrated. I think I accomplished that. And then I've been waiting that out. It's starting to look more and more like it's like correct adjacent now.

I'm letting it age like a fine one. But as I want to ask you, like as a Big Ten kind of sore, Michigan State, I feel like, did they fall off? Is it fair to say like Michigan State's falling off? Tom Izzo is another one of the guys that's in, found himself in a new era of basketball that I don't think they've fallen off. I think they're in a transitional period where Tom Izzo is maybe a little bit stubborn about what this is and doesn't want to fully go into the new era with a lot of gusto. But I think they're going to be fine. But I don't know if someone else wants to make the case that they've fallen off. Like the brand has fallen off a little bit.

But they're still a good basketball team. Like this past Michigan State team, if Max Christie was as good as he was supposed to be, Michigan State would have been awesome. They were missing like the one like five star guy that was like, I'm going to be a first round pick. I'm awesome. And that was supposed to be him. It didn't work out. Sometimes that just happened. And also you could kind of sum it up as like Amani Bates.

That would be the, that would be where you're like, have they fallen off? Like Amani Bates. Right. Like I think he said he was going to Michigan State when he was a sophomore. And then it switches to Memphis late in the game. Tom Izzo playing the new version of college basketball is taking Amani Bates. Right. It would have been a disaster.

And then he would have just doubled down on like, this is why I don't do this. Right. So that was the first time I was like, Oh, so he's not, he's not doing this new game. Yeah. Like he should, because, because guess what? I mean, John Howard's probably doing the new game. Like that's Michigan State has always felt like they got the better basketball players. Yeah.

At least for the last 20 years. I've been feeling like more and more recently over the last, I don't know, like since we've been doing this show, college football coaches have just become more psycho than ever. Like you almost have to be a paranoid sociopath to be a successful college football coach. I'm not even really exaggerating about that. Like the most successful ones are in college basketball, it feels like there's more like, I don't know, dedication to the game. Like they feel like they're, they think of themselves more of like stewards of the game

as being an elite college basketball coach. Do you think that's like a fair thing to say? It's sort of, it's sort of because like college football, you're still allowed to be a hard coach a little bit too. And you're still allowed to be a disciplinarian and stuff. Like the college basketball coaches now have to be players coaches. You have to be BFF with, with the AU coaches as you're recruiting and the high school coaches and all that.

And you just have to be like a very likable Jay Wright type and Tony Bennett type and Mike Bray type. Those are the guys that are successful now. Whereas I think college football, you can still be insane. And that is, that's interesting. That dichotomy is interesting that you can just be completely out of your mind. But like a completely out of your mind college basketball coach, I don't know how much that plays.

Like Eric Musselman's a little out of his mind, but he's like fun about it. He's a very player coach. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like a different kind of. You're out of your mind, but you're like recruiting your players to like get out of their mind with you. Yeah.

Like join my crazy tent. Yeah. And we'll just have a good time and win some games. And it's, it's, it is, I hate to be like the old man in the conversation sometimes, but like when people are like, Oh yeah, the game has changed. Kids don't want to be coached hard anymore. I think that's partially true. It is.

It's definitely like you can, you can admit that. And not, and it's not maybe a bad thing. Like Bobby Knight just fucking choking people. That's probably good. That's not happening anymore. Probably. But I think there's, I think it's hard. That's what it's.

That's a limp cat talking. It's, it's hard for coaches. No, it's, it's Demacat. Oh, that was a new one that someone dropped on me last week. It was fucking fire. I was like, damn, it's taking that long. But college coaches like now the kids can transfer like that, which is good. All these things are good.

They can't be like hard ass all the time because I think kids are like, I'm not doing this. Like I'm not letting you just scream at me. Iso is not a hard ass because Iso is, I will yell at you, but then I will throw my arm around your shoulder and love you. But even that formula in the last tower many years has been criticized. Like he's had a few instances. One that comes to mind was with like Aaron Henry and people would lost their mind about that. And I, he's, he's, as these guys retire, he's becoming like the last of a dying breed.

But you know what's good for him in that respect is that if you have a couple, well-known pros who have your back, you can get away with a lot more. Like Draymond Green always been like, that's Michigan State family. Right. It completely negates the whole controversy immediately. And there's also something about like the culture around the Michigan State program of having, not just a guy like Draymond is like, I love Tom Iso, but Draymond's a tough son of a bitch. And it's like, that's why I'm here.

Why I'm a tough son of a, Zach Randolph is like, this is why I'm a tough son of a bitch. Right. Like there's some people who, if they speak up, you're like, oh, okay. Like Joe Kipnoa, when he's like talks about, you know, Tom Thibodeau being like, that's what made me who I am kind of as a pro. It's like, okay, so maybe his hard ways aren't the worst. Where do we, what's going to happen with the NBA? This is coming out on Monday. So we still have to play.

Yeah. Let's make our prediction. Let's do the last question. Yeah. The rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Use code take for 20% off your first purchase. We actually have Mark for you. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, anything you want. We got it. What size are you?

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You're skin and bones, Mark. I love rowback. Okay. Wait. So what game will be, will be at, will be game three in both series will have just completed. If I'm doing my math right. Yes. Okay.

Okay. I'm going to say two one heat. I'm going to say two one Celtics. Okay. I'm also going to throw in there to one heat. Jaylin Brown got COVID. I'm going to throw that. I think they might be in trouble with the COVID, which is

bullshit. Two one heat. I like that. I like a, I'm a big head. Two, two to one heat. What about the other one though? I'm trying to think. I'm going to go to one maps.

Ooh, spicy. Bad for Luca though. Did you see Luca drinking a beer this morning? Yeah. Awesome. I did. He drank one this morning. He was, someone got a picture of him.

He was having lunch at like, it was probably like 11 a.m. San Francisco time. And he was just, You guys can help me out with this. Yeah. Someone was like the, I think the quote tweet that I tweeted was like, Slav's going to slob or something.

Slav's going to slob on my knob. He was with Bobon. Oh, he was. Okay. Yeah. So they're just, Why is, why is Luca so likeable?

And why, like, I've been thinking about this that the foreign players seem very likeable and the Americans do not. Luca is likeable now. I think he's kind of hate Luca. You think we're going to hate him? I think Luca is kind of a prick actually.

In a way that I respect and like that in a guy. But that's what I mean. Like he's, he's, he's very like, if it was any other person like laughing at, at the other team every single time you get a shot and, I think it's actually very simple. I think it's just So likeable.

Foreign guys as like standing here right now, there has not been a prominent foreign guy who's tried to force his way out of the situation. Like a James Harden, like a Kyrie. I think that actually plays like, I think Giannis sticking with Milwaukee. Like if Giannis left.

If he'd going through the process years. If Giannis said he wanted to play for the Lakers, people wouldn't like Giannis. Yeah, that's true. He would hate Giannis. Yoke is the same way. Yeah, like staying with your team. Almost getting swept and he's just kind of like,

I'm going to stick around. Right. I think people will hate Luca. I like, I love watching him play basketball, but I think he will because he does complain a lot. Yes. And the like anything in sports, if he wins like two titles in the next four years,

let's say. Yeah. Which is why he shouldn't win. Yeah. Exactly. It's bad for Luca if he wins. Right. Do not win the title.

Just always have him like be like a possibility to win. Yeah. And then if he's always the like slight underdog, people continue to root for him. The jerk. But I win once. I also think he's showing some personality. And I think that people by and large now like a little bit of personality.

Like, yeah, he can be a prick sometimes, but it's something to talk about. Yeah. He's just so like, I don't, I, when you watch him, I mean, I just, it's, it's a crazy thing that he does where he's, he's moving in sometimes slow motion, but he's so precise and like good with his body that it just,

it's so perfect. He plays perfect basketball. I would just crawl up into him if I was guarding him. Yeah. I would just pressure him. I would pressure him a little more and make him go left. And then, and then when he picks up his dribble to shoot, just put a hand up.

Yep. Close out. Well, when they pick up the dribble, they have to get rid of it somewhere. Yeah. I should get on the ball. Get in his jersey. Yeah.

I'd get in his jersey. And then you see guys like continue to move one way. And you're like, uh, idiot, he can't keep dribbling now. He can't go anywhere. That's travel if he keeps going. Yeah. And then when you see like Cam Johnson, for example, like Lugo would stop and Cam Johnson would like fall down

and keep going that way. And you're like, why would you do that? Yeah. You gotta keep your balance. Yeah. Keep your balance. Guard the belly button. But then also on the flip side of that,

when he first gets the ball, don't fall for the pump fake. Yeah. Keep your feet on the ground. Great point. That's how you stop hookah. Great point. I love teaching guard the belly button.

They can't go anywhere without their belly button. That's the whole thing. You can't go anywhere. You can't. If you're guarding the arms, the hands, the plow. Your head can go over here. Yeah. You can't go anywhere without that belly button.

I had a coach one time tell me to guard their neck. That's good. It was the same logic. It was like, if the neck's going someplace, the rest of the body's going to follow. But the problem is you hear that, when you're like, when you're seven years old, you have a coach tell you that,

you're like, okay, I'm going to do that on defense. But then when you're on offense, you think, are they watching my neck? So then you're just like throwing your neck. Yeah. You're playing like Al Smart. Bobblehead. All right.

So what's that? So you have two one maves? I'll go two one warriors. I think, this isn't either. This is a classic either or. Yeah. I could see it either way. This is it.

I think it might be a stay away, honestly. I think stay away. This is classic. It's a walkie series. It could go. It's in the mega zone. I really do. I think about it.

I see the Mavericks winning. But then it's the warrior. I could see the Warriors. Warriors could win. Absolutely. It's a stay away. Okay. I'm going to stay away.

I'm not touching this. I'm doing. I'm doing warriors in a sweep. Why not? Whoa. Just get crazy. The maves and the heat fans are like, if it's maves heat in the finals,

it's going to be just a war. Like who's being disrespected. Yeah. Right. Right. I feel like at this stage in the NBA playoffs, nobody has the balls to predict sweeps anymore. Like when it gets like his team.

PFT tried. I tried. And that's over the Celtics. Yeah. Which I mean, I mean at the conference final stage as well. When you get this deep into it, because all four of these teams have obviously been playing well.

I feel like people are scared to have the balls to just be like, I guess that the maves beat the sons, but they're dog shit. The Warriors are going to sweep them. Yeah. Or you know, the Celtics are going to get swept. I think that the maves are going to jump out two to one.

And then the Warriors are going to win the series. Wow. How about that? I like that. How about that for nuts on the line? All right. You should do a wampus bet against Jake. You ever did?

You ever did? No. I almost did one time. Oh, nice. That's fucking nuts, man. It's crazy. You're fucking wild. Oh, I do remember when I was going to ask you way back when I lost my train of thought.

Number one pick. Who's going to be? I think it's going to be Chet. I think it would be, I think, I was thinking Jabari was going to go number one before the lottery happened. But then I think Orlando is going to love Chet. And Jaylen, so I played high school together.

I think that's going to win out in the end. Yeah. I just, it's weird because I actually think this is a, I mean, this draft actually has like a few guys. I'm like, oh, I could see him being a really good NBA player. The more I think back on like draft things I got wrong or like I misread or whatever else, the more I'm wondering if like Jay Neive should just be considered the best in this draft because he's the one of the guys at the top.

Nah, dude. I'm of the Gar Forman School of Scouting. He lost to St. Peter's. No, thanks. You just judged by based on the tournament. It's a good point. It's like, no. It's a good point.

Uh-uh. He had, he had. If Armando Baycott was coming out. He'd be my first pick overall. That's a good point. Jay Neive almost hit the shot at the end. Was that, was that for the winner for the tie, Jake? Do you remember the Jay Neive?

I think they were down three. They were down three, right? Yeah. He thought that was going in. But you can't lose to St. Peter's and be a pick. A, a number one pick. It was 67-64. So, yeah.

I don't think he was, uh, I, I, I, yeah, you're right. You, you, you, you scrambled my brain up. You could just go like, All the other, all the other, all the other people at the top are like big dudes that I, like, like Jabari's not going to have the ball in his hand at the end of games. And, and Chet, who the hell knows how they're even going to, how teams are going to use them on offense. And I guess Palo, I don't know.

Who's the guy that's, that's going to fall in the draft that's going to be like 10 or above that probably the spurs will end up getting. And you'll be like, Oh, fuck, how did everybody miss on this guy? Oh, man. I got an answer. Who's, who's, who's your answer? I think A.J. Griffin's going to be really good, but he's got like injury shit. Yeah.

That people will tell themselves that they're not into it. He might, he'll probably go more like seven-ish, but I think he could be one of those guys that in three or four years, you're like, Oh, he's perfect for the NBA. Yeah. He just makes every three. I, I, I'd agree with that. Yeah. A.J. Griffin was one of my favorite guys on Duke this year.

I actually didn't hate him. I loved him. Yeah. Yeah. Which is hard to say. I kind of like Kiehl's. Yeah. Kiehl's, Kiehl's, yeah.

He's playing the wrong sport. He needs to be playing football. Yeah. I was about to say that's why, that's why I like. That's probably what you like. Admittedly this whole season I've been like, he's like, he's like a running back. Yeah. He, he, uh, I, Malachi Brandon from Ohio State was a guy that I was really excited to be

a steal for somebody, but like it seems like every time I read anything about how his draft process is going, he's shooting up draft boards. So I don't think he's going to surprise anybody. I'm curious like what's going to happen with the old school centers like Mark Williams at Duke and Walker Kessler at Auburn and guys like that that are like incredible shop blockers and, and can run the floor and, um, you know, just dunk, do you watch, do you watch them play in college? They're just dunking it every time they get it anywhere around the rim.

And if it was 1996, so they, they might be one and two. Yeah. Uh. If you could do anything elite though, I think you can be on an, like he, he, he, if you can protect the rim at an elite level, you can, you have a spot, you're not going to be a superstar. You're not going to be a like every day starter, but you'll have a spot on a roster. Right.

If you can hit threes, you'll have a spot on, I'm so excited for chat though. I'm so excited for the chat takes because he, he, he is, he's like your guys, he's got to be your guys's dream from a take perspective that like the, the, the, he is the number one, I think prospect for takes that has ever existed in a big draft. Yeah. I think you just have to look at them and you have a take. Yes. Everybody has a take.

If you go out, you can go walk around and just show a picture or chat home and be like, what's your take? Yeah. He tried to give him Katie's old nickname. Yeah. So the slim reaper. Yeah. That should be, he's got that body type right now.

Katie got rid of it. That should belong to Chet now. Yeah. He probably can't bench. Oh. Yeah. Get Chet in here. Is Johnny Davis going to be good in the pros?

I hope so. Yeah. He's got to be. He's got to be. Thank you. All right. I appreciate that. How much can I bench?

I'm, it's a sad, it's a sad scene. We're sore anyway. Yeah. I'm tired. I'm tired of it. You want to, you want to lift after you should not. I was trying to remember how much Billy bench last time. 225.

Check the, check behind you. Oh, you get the 75. 275. Yeah. 275. Going for 295 soon. All right. Wow.

Yeah. All right. Soon. That's like the wrong Q and A soon. All right. Mark, it's always a pleasure. We love catching up with you. Yeah.

Yeah. We'll put that in the video. He still is not texting. I think he's on a plane right now. Yeah. I will let you know if he's, I'm, I'm, I'm going with a, I'm going with ignored is probably okay. But just Texas.

If he responds to Texas and we'll, that'll be great. Thank you though. We appreciate it. Thank you Mark. Listen to Titus and Tate. Please. Mark Titus is brought to you by our great friends over at game time. It's the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.

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Steph Curry happened, put them to sleep. Sunday night, they were alive for a quarter. Two quarters. Two quarters. They won two quarters. Oh yeah. We're a big quarter pod. So it was a tie.

It was a tie. For anyone who's out there who maybe, maybe we give this a stat whole sports, who has won the most quarters this year in the entire regular season of the NBA. Oh shit. That would be a lot of work, but I would like to know who the quarter gods are. That would be nice to just figure out, you know, this is the team that has won the most quarters on aggregate. I'll bet you low key, some of the worst teams in the league always win one quarter.

Yeah. Like the fourth quarter. For sure. You're getting blown out. Yeah. Low key. Low key. At what point do you think low key, we're going to low key be using low key non-ironically

to make fun of Billy because I think it's seeping in our head. No, definitely. We're not capping anymore. Right. It's going to suck when we start saying it and we're like, fuck. Why do we sound like Billy? We've definitely, we've definitely already reached that point and surpassed it. I think last Friday was probably the first time it's a major crutch for him.

Yeah. It's just basically any time he has a feeling he's just like low key. I'm hungry. It's the zoomers way of saying no offense, but it doesn't matter what you say. It's not even used in a no offense for him. He uses it in everything where he's like, low key, I think I'm going to go to the gym today. It's like, you're just telling me what you're doing low key.

It's nice out. He needs entrance and exit words for every sentence that he says. So like, if he just got caught lying and he wants to like transition to something else, he'll be like, anyways, and then let's just move on. He just needs like an in and out of every thought that he has. Good news about this game, by the way, back to my point about the blowouts. This technically counts as less than 10 points, even though it felt like a blowout had blowout energy the entire second half.

We had a nine point game. So I guess that counts as a competitive game. And if you listen to our predictions with Titus about what the series was going to look at, we were doing a bit. What did I say? I think I said Mavs 3-0 or 2-0. The first game had been, I was right about the heat. And then I think I said 2-1 Warriors.

Yeah. I think I said 2-1 Mavs at that point. That was a joke. I was doing a bit on that one because I knew that Andrew Wiggins was going to explode tonight. It's nice to be, we were talking about, what did you say, 31 million he makes? Yeah. 31 million. That was number one overall pick.

Yeah. And it's nice to play on the Warriors. It still stands that, I think Andrew Wiggins has gotten probably unfairly scrutinized, well maybe fairly scrutinized at points in his career because he wasn't up to that number one pick standard, but he's a great fit for the Warriors. And when you play with Steph and Clay and Draymond and you're playing like smart basketball around and those guys can have all the attention in the world on them, it makes your life a lot easier.

And he has had a very good playoffs and he's a key part of what they're trying to do and win a title. I have a thought for you, PFT. I am, I put a future on the Warriors. We talked about it before the play or after the first game of the playoffs, switch my pick to the Warriors. I'm rooting for them. I also think like, I don't know why, but I just want the Warriors to win another title

just as like a thank you to them for all the awesome basketball they've let us watch. Well, allowing them to win another title would be like us being like my bad for hating on you guys after you were too good for a while. Right. Cause we got sick of the, and everyone got sick of the stretch where it was Warriors calves every single year. And you get it in the Kevin Durant going to Golden State, pissed a lot of people off. But I was like, I had a moment was like, I don't, I actually genuinely like everyone

on the Warriors and they have played incredible basketball that's been so much fun to watch. Why not have them win another title where it kind of caps off everything they've done. And you can look at it and say, Steph Curry with four clay with four dream on with four. This team is like all time great. Everyone knows they're all time great from what they did, but having that extra title after they're all past their peak, after the injuries, after Kevin Durant would be nice. I'm just going to make the call right now. This championship, if they win it, it counts as part of their dynasty.

This one definitely counts cause you could make the case you've got the bubble year. You've got, you've got the Raptors doesn't count. Yeah. Raptors winning. That was weird. You've got the injury year. Yup. That definitely.

Two injury years. Yeah. Two injury years. That's right. Because Clay took a sweet time. Yeah. Got re-injured. Got re-injured again.

So yeah. Two injury years. This officially counts as part of their dynasty. And they are fun to watch. And I love like what Wiggins is doing right now. I'm very happy to see that. The dunk that he had, they tried to take that away from us. That dunk, if you commit a foul on a dunk, it should not count.

No. As long as your hand grabs the rim, the ball goes through. You should be able to do whatever you want in the act of shooting. And the dunk negates any foul that you may have committed. And a cool dunk like that should never be taken off. It was, I'm happy they used their challenge on that, which they didn't really need to. Maybe the referees were like, that dunk was so cool. We just call it wrong and then hope that it gets challenged and we get to watch it a million

times and replay. By the way, we haven't talked about this. I don't know what it is about. Maybe it's just, you know, basketball is easier to have someone look at it and you can kind of tell right away that, oh, that call was bad. Basketball coaches are awesome at challenges compared to football. Well, yeah. I feel like they always get it right.

In the NFL, they just do, man, that sucks. I really hope. Yeah. I really wish that play didn't happen the way that it did. Right. They use the challenge flag on that one. Hopefully, like, they'll see something that didn't happen and overturn the call. Please be in the, yeah, please have broken the plane.

Well, I think it's like most coaches in the NFL, if you're like a bottom tier coach, you just, every single bad play that happens to you, you think in the back of your head, like, I might lose my job because we lost this game. So they're coaching out of panic and they're challenging out of panic. And other times you just can't find your challenge flag if you're Jeff Fisher. But in the NBA, I feel like they have a better, like, line of responsibility that it goes through. But they probably have someone who's dedicated job is just to know the rules really well and

then to let the coach know whether or not you should challenge. The strategy always gets confusing, though, too, though, like when, because you only have one. Right. So when do you use it? Yeah. I think you, like, when people do in the first quarter or the first half, it's like, what's the point?

Yeah. Everyone, the smart coaches basically save it for if my star player gets in foul trouble. I need to keep this challenge in my back pocket. Yeah. But I, I, maybe it's, maybe someone will show me the stats and I'm way off, but it feels like the challengers are for the most part successful and they'd have like little green light that goes off. It's also just not listening to your players.

Yeah. Yeah. If you challenge every time, every player wants to challenge every single call against them. Marcus Smart is the king of that. And Dreamond. And Dreamond. Marcus Smart has never committed a foul in his life.

Everyone won. They commit a foul. They just do the review, review, review, because no one's ever committed a foul before. Yeah. I just love when they do this. Like the homerun sign. Yep. Okay.

So that's going to be a womp. That's going to be a sweep. I'm starting to feel better about the take that, that they're doing Luca a disservice by advancing this far. And again, as we said, I don't necessarily believe it, but I am, I'm like putting my flag out there and waiting for somebody else in the media to run with that narrative. I'm almost like calling to take an advance that's going to happen. Yes.

It absolutely will happen. In hockey, we have, the Battle of Alberta got serious tonight because Milan Lucic ran Mike Smith. A lot of fighting. Oilers are up now. Two to one. You never touched another man's goal. Never, ever.

And it was, it's been an awesome series. I just love the Battle of Alberta. Just, I just, I like saying it. I like looking at a map, being like, ooh, they're only two hours away from each other. It's just, everything about it's fun. It does sound like a movie starring Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. Involving trains somehow.

I also looked up Calgary the other day and Calgary, if you, like, it always blows my mind, but the population of Calgary is like over a million people and a hundred years ago it was like 2,000 people. That shit just blows my mind. It exploded. Where it's like, or even 40 years ago it was like 400,000 people. Think about being like a 90 year old person in Calgary and be like, yeah, I remember when I knew everyone's name here.

That would be nuts. Hank, I'm just curious. Actually, I would not be very good at this either, but I'm curious to know, like, through your lens, if I were to say, like, what part of Canada is Calgary in? What part of Canada is Edmonton in? What part of Canada is- I know Vancouver. Is Winnipeg in.

I know Toronto. No, those are the three. You've had some context clues about Calgary and Edmonton. Calgary, Edmonton, and Winnipeg on a map. If you, if like your hand, if you're looking at your hand and that's Canada. Can you get the province? Even though we've said it. Alberta.

Yeah, there we go. That's an easy one. Just see one go through the hoop. Finish your hand analogy. I need as broad as possible. So this is the hand. Yeah. So let's, let's give you this one.

This is Montreal here. When you're done. Let's say this is Montreal. And then Vancouver is the pinky. This is the pinky. He's got, he's thinking. Next to the pinky. Yes.

That's right. That's Alberta. That's right. What about Winnipeg? Winnipeg. Middle finger. Middle finger. Yeah.

Toronto would be the pointer finger. Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. Geographical genius. Yeah. No big deal. You are.

You know sphere. You know globe. Yep. What other hockey? Oh, the lightning are just going to win it all again. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Jake.

It's not over. What really is over? Shut up. It's over. Three nothing. It's over. No, it's over. At 100% dollars.

The last interest rate. It sucks for the Maple Leafs because everyone called it like a choke job, them losing, but they might have. They might have lost to the best team in the NHL. Yeah. Still choke. And we also had, um, uh, Bizz was very precious like that S A T word. Three goals in three games, saying that N'Zim Kadri is the key to the avalanche and that

EDGE plays on. Well, the key is to get the Blue's goalie Binnington out for the rest of the season. So... It actually wasn't that dirty of a plan. I don't think I think it was a bang bang play And if it happened to anyone else it would have it wouldn't have been a story But then you had Bennington throwing a water bottle of cadre after the game when he was doing an interview with bits I also think that Goallies are some of the best floppers in sports. Yes, hockey goalies if you get touched you go down

And we're talking a Rudy who played college hockey and he's I think a pretty good national champion At Denver yeah, and he was saying that two minutes of ice time goalie helmets Maybe maybe goalie helmets are like engineers to not really protect you so they fly off super easy Yeah, so anytime you touch a goalie and the mask goes flying across the ice It's actually great for the effect of it. They're great at special They're said it could buy it looks like a Michael Bay movie. Yeah, I'm getting the crease. Yeah, let's have me Where's memes? Can we get memes in here? Let's wrap up with him telling us about the Rangers win Just torture. I don't like I don't like when the when the Hurricanes hates the Rangers so much

He hates the Rangers more than he likes the Islanders. I don't I don't like which I like I don't like when the Hurricanes wear their their Ranger knockoff jerseys I especially don't like it when they play against the Rangers wearing the Canes like diagonal slanted spots across their chest Yeah, it looks like you're trying too hard. Would you say? No, this isn't his debut corporate Hank would know he did his rant last week has been on the show Another inside joke that Hank misses. Do you feel a little lost thing? Yeah, he's nodding quick. We're gonna finish We're gonna do the ping-pong balls for nutshots. Okay. No, I'm just kidding. Oh But give us your thoughts on the Rangers win

Expected okay play off hockey. They're not terrible You see here that guys that was a nice compliment Hurricanes very good at home They've lost every game away So just got a hold home ice. Yeah hold home ice. I knew they were gonna lose tonight. I think they'll win When do they play Tuesday? Tuesday and then they'll finish him up at home. Okay What did you think about the the streets of New York flooded with Rangers jerseys today? Those are your people, right?

It was terrible. I took the train in yeah, just not living with them. You're seeing bad people like oh I'm gonna fly out game seven. They're broken their tickets already. Really? Yeah, they're only down to one Yep, why wouldn't it this is like Dwight shrewt in the hell hotel? Why wouldn't you in your in your best dream when you'd be like we win game six at home ice? Yeah? No, they're already no dad. They've already lost another one in their mind. They win one then it's best of three A dream scenario it goes seven Okay, thank you memes. You want to do your what number are you ping-pong ball? 69 69 okay six. I'm gonna do

51 26 10 25 You think that's it he has to hit Jake in the nuts again. Yeah, no Thanks, Jake for finishing out the show To Derek Yeah, Eric G Oh Yeah, no, I told you just before the moment I saw lettuce and tomato on a Philly cheesesteak And it was bad news. I don't know why I don't know what happened. How's your butt doing?

Take it in there. Thanks to dude wipes. There we go. Dude wipes. Yeah, love you guys an Ostrich's eyes are bigger than its brain lookie Okay Oh Let's find out I Don't With the tape

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