Pardon My Take - Miami Heat’s Duncan Robinson, Mahomes Injury, 62 Text Messages, And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

Happy Marcus Mariota Day, a day we should never forget but totally forgot. (2:09-7:06) Mets fire their GM after story breaks of his 62 unresponded text messages and unsolicited dick pick.(7:07-16:32) Mahomes injury update. (16:33-20:48) Hot Seat Cool Throne including NCAA tourney changes. (22:32-37:03) Miami Heat Guard/SF Duncan Robinson joins the show to talk about his new podcast, the bubble run, making it to the NBA from Division 3 to Division 1, media, and Jimmy Butler. (38:44-1:19:00) We finish with guys on chicks (1:19:50-1:32:28)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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And also, uh, D3 Runner Up, NBA Runner Up. D1 Runner Up. D1 Runner Up. So, we asked that question because he's an asshole, uh, we have that. We have some cleanup on, uh, the divisional round, Patrick Mahomes, Hot Seat Cool Throne, the Metz GM sent 62 unsolicited text messages. We have it all. Uh, it's great Wednesday show.

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Welcome to part of my take presented by the Cash App. Go download it right now. Use code BARSTEL. You get $10 for free, $10 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, January 20th. Happy Marcus Mariota Day. That is the holiday that we all know, that we all celebrate. I guess like a month ago.

Well, we created a holiday that we don't even know why we created it. I think I know why. I think I remember. It was like when Marcus Mariota was playing on Thursday Night Football and he played well. No. No? Nope. We're going to go back.

Over one. Week 12. I have no recollection. Yeah, for the record, Jake, right before we start recording, Jake goes, and remember, it's Marcus Mariota Day. This is no problem with Jake. He is, well, it's actually a good thing, good problem to have. But I would say we're not really good preppers.

We're kind of a fly by the seat of our pants, guys. Jake is now the de facto part of my take historian. So when we say shit like, hey, Jake, Marcus Mariota Day, January 20th, he actually remembers when you- You know what it is? No chance. I remember. He holds Future Us accountable, which I don't like.

I mean, we're just saying things all the time that we'll take care of in a couple of months. And Jake is like, hey, remember that deadline you said for yourself? I'd rather just forget about it. Okay. So tell us- So here's the backstory. Play the clip.

It was week 12 of the NFL season. The Raiders lost to the Falcons 43 to 6. And Nathan Peterman came into the game, went 3-5, and I think one of you said, let's see Marcus Mariota. Okay. Let's see. Let's hear it. If you're Derek Carr, it's got to be so much worse to get benched for Nathan Peterman

than for Marcus Mariota, right? Correct. I'd rather see Mariota come in off the sidelines and be like, this guy, I forgot he did too. Put that in like a Google calendar, Jake, January 17th for remember Marcus Mariota. Yeah. See if he's alive. It's my sister's birthday. There we go.

Shout out. Remember Marcus Mariota on that day. Matt. Is that a Tuesday or Wednesday? What is it? It is Sunday. We'll be here. I don't know why I only give two options.

It's a Sunday. We'll be here. So actually, sorry, no offense to your sister, Hank, but let's move it back. Let's go to, actually, let's go to the following Wednesday. It seems like, or Tuesday, Tuesday. It seems like a Tuesday type for a Wednesday show. Wednesday is an auguration day. Tuesday is the night.

I'm really going to have a lot to talk about. I'm going to be busy on that one. Yeah. I'm just looking at my Apple calendar and I had a dot. Are you saying the election is official? We're not talking about it. Okay. All right.

You know how the holiday pop-up on your Apple calendar? That's what came up. He didn't say who was getting inaugurated. Yeah. That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point.

All right. So put it in. That's Marcus Mariota. Remember Marcus Mariota. You get inaugurated if you win. You get re-inaugurated. Okay, well. All right.

So there we go. You know what day is? People listen to this? Like that was. We sound like fucking idiots. That was the dumbest thing I've ever listened to and I just like, it happened exactly how I did it. It's just for a fake holiday.

Yeah. Didn't remember. But it would make no sense. We were talking about a Falcons Chargers game and then Hank starts, or Falcons Raiders game and Hank starts reminding us about his sister's birthday and people are like, this is compelling stuff. Yes. Shout to Maddie.

Shout to Maddie. Happy birthday, Maddie. Marcus Mariota day. Related. Today is Marcus Mariota day. It's also part and day. Yes. So we're recording this before the partings come out.

I'm excited. I'm hoping Tiger King gets off. He's got a limo on standby. Silk Road, dude. Silk Road. God. Pardon Dr. Heat. Pardon Greg Williams.

Let's do some Marcus Mariota facts. I don't even know. I think he's so boring. He doesn't have facts. I just looked Marcus Mariota facts and it says Marcus Mariota was six feet four inches. So Marcus Mariota is dead. So RIP Marcus Mariota. What's your facts?

He's from Hawaii. There we go. Papa Bless. October 30th, 1993 was his birthday. That's actually not too far off from when we decided to make Marcus Mariota day. That's Halloween almost. One month exactly. We did November 30th.

There we go. The stars align. This is 11 Titanic facts about Marcus Mariota's magical NFL debut. He won the Combine King award after running a 4.48 40-yard dash in high school. Okay. He's the Combine King. Wow. Marcus Mariota, the Combine King.

Do you have anything for us, Jake? In the first half of his debut, he was eight for eight for 162 yards and two touchdowns. That's his first game ever. He must have turned out to be pretty good. Whoops. What are you going to say, Jake? I'm still looking. Yeah, there's no, he's so boring.

Okay. Well, happy Marcus Mariota day. That's official. It is officially in the calendar. Marcus Mariota day every year, January. It's remember Marcus Mariota. Alliteration is first and last name. Boom.

There we go. You had to look that up? No. It was just last. Yeah. Okay. Emergency fact. All right.

So happy Marcus Mariota day to everyone. Hopefully everyone has a great Marcus Mariota day. Let's talk some other stuff. How about the Mets general manager getting fired for 62 text messages to a female reporter, including a dick pic. I think it was dick pic part of the 62. Was it dick pic was, I think included at the tail end of the 62. Then she answered after the dick pic.

And then he sent like three more saying, I'm sorry, but then four more. Yeah. Yeah. Being like, you didn't get back to me about whether or not you liked a dick pic. Yes. So I've got two thoughts on this. First of all, on top of everything else, obviously he's a scumbag and he got fired, deserves to be fired.

First of all, after that, he's also a terrible negotiator. What did they teach you in negotiating school? Did they teach you to just like look really thirsty and keep calling people and they won't call you back? Yeah. I don't know. I mean sales, you're supposed to be persistent, right? I guess this also is an indictment then on the Indians because they just traded Lindor

to the Mets. So this guy executed the trade. They did business. They took his blood money. First of all, what did you disavow because he was on the Cubs when he was on the Cubs? He was on the Cubs. Do you disavow? He was a Mets GM.

I do disavow. He was a Mets GM. I think we should all just remember that he's a Mets GM. He is the Mets GM or was the Mets GM. My second big takeaway is this is an all time guy who wears Oakley sunglasses move. Yeah. It's a big time Oakley. If you look at the picture that they have, he's wearing the square Oakleys and you can

tell a lot about a guy by the sunglasses he wears. If you wear Costa sunglasses, you go deep sea fishing twice a year. You probably have a DUI in Florida. If you wear shady rays, you're cool. You're just cool. You're the Blake of the world. That's true. And then if you're an Oakley guy, you probably send dick pics during child support meetings.

Yes. I would say so. Well, this wasn't during a child support meeting. But you don't know that. Well, it might have been. I mean, let's ... Probably the worst excuse of all time when he said those were actually just stock images because who doesn't have stock images of random erect penises in their phone?

Yeah. That is also a sign like, hey, man, don't go with your first defense because your first defense is going to be terrible. Like, hey, it was stock images. My biggest takeaway from this is we need a school that everyone ... People go to college or trade school or whatever. We need a one-month seminar where people can just learn to be normal human beings because this was when I read this story and I saw that he had 62 unanswered text messages, throw

out just the dick pic, which is way out of bounds, an unsolicited dick pic, is way out of bounds to begin with. But 62 text messages over a couple months with no reply, dude, you need to learn just a tiny bit of shame because that's the craziest. It made me cringe and have shivers down my spine. If I text someone over a two-day span and text them three times and they don't respond, I'm like, well, fuck me, I'll kill myself because I don't want to talk to them. Either they're dead or you've got the wrong number.

Here's the solution. Every guy out there should have a number in their phone that they label as, let's just call it Kathleen from the bar. It is a number that goes nowhere and you just fire off all your dick pics to that due to the number. Just out into space. Dude, and he was doing the winky face and he was doing ... Yeah, that's also embarrassing to have your GM shooting off emojis.

Like question mark, like question mark, like question mark. This guy, he just, maybe it's because I don't know, he's achieved great things to GM, so he probably thinks like ... He was the GM of the Mets. The GM of the Mets, but he was like, oh, my shit doesn't stink, I'm the GM of the Mets. I'm a smart guy. No, you're not. You're actually a fucking idiot because 62 ... How do you even go back from that, by

the way? You don't. I gotta say like ... Here's the thing, they've got the blackout picture there, so he knows that if he keeps fucking up, they're liable to drop the uncensored version. You mean the stock image? The stock image. Yeah, the Getty, the picture of Via Getty's penis.

How about thinking that, that will be a good way to get out of this, be like, yeah dude, who doesn't have stock images? So he went, why won't you answer me, beautiful? Am I annoying you? If you have to ask, am I annoying you, you're annoying. Answers, yes. Question mark, question mark. I'm gonna say 62 text messages is pre-crime, but it's not, it's just crime crime.

Yeah, so that was the big news of Monday night going into Tuesday, and credit Steve Cohen, who, I was reading his Twitter, I'm a little jealous of Mets fans' relationship with Steve Cohen. It's nice. Because it is, he had a tweet being like, what do you guys want, knew it at City Field, and people were just responding, like Glenny Balls was in there, being like, we need more beer. And like, you know what I mean?

It was just, and he was responding to people, and it was like, I don't know, there's something about Steve Cohen, maybe the shine will wear off eventually, but I have no affinity towards the Mets whatsoever, but there's something very sweet about the Mets fans' relationship. They really just got out of like the worst relationship with the Will Ponds, and now they have cool new dad who will tweet them back and be like, hey guys, you want to do a trade? Let's crowd source a trade. Who do you guys want on the team?

And the people are like, hey, we want Trevor Bauer, he's like, all right, I'll go get Trevor Bauer. And it's very much a double-edged sword because once things start to go bad, he's going to have a different, entire outlook on Twitter, but it does go to show you that no matter how many billions of dollars you get in your life, the one thing that you're always going to want is to, well, to own a sports team and then to be cool online. Yes. And this guy, so Steve Cohen, he did deal with it correctly and that he fired him pretty

much instantly in the morning, but he had a moment last night where everyone was like, this guy tweets all the time, where's his tweet? So that also is a double-edged sword where if you're the tweet guy, you can't be like, well, he's got no way to get in touch. Like they'll do a press conference. Like, no, he goes directly to the fans, which is cool until there's some issue and it's like, well, you got to actually address it. He's going to need to have to hire like a heavy, a dude that gives the bad news to the fanbase

so that he can continue to have this like cool Uncle Steve persona that he should just have Frank the Tank be his press secretary for any bad news that needs to be delivered. Yes. Yes. I love that. I don't know. I'm jealous of the Steve Cohen relationship that Mets fans have with him. Also Darren, Darren Revelle, please tell me how much, how much advertising Oakley got

out of that deal. Yeah. Having him plastered everywhere. Like the minors that came out of the. Exactly. Like the minors. Yeah. Also, could you imagine, I can't imagine the GM from any other team doing this and

I don't know them personally, but it just feels like a problem that would only happen with the Mets. Right. And in fact, it would even happen with the Mets, it did happen with the Cubs, but it's the Mets GM. Let's just be honest. It's the Mets GM. I could see.

But the fact that they hired him and then it happened. A smart GM like Billy Bean gets in trouble for sending pictures of his balls. Balls are underrated. They're undervalued. The, the, the Cubs like Theo, it might actually be now his greatest move ever was leaving the Cubs right before everything just fell apart because John Lester is now a Washington national. Kyle Schwerber like you, Darvish gets traded.

This comes out with the baby Cubs. All this happens and it's like, hey, Theo might have seen something. So I went and looked, uh, Glenny's, uh, response to Steve Cohn was Steve, I mean, how about that? Like he's, Steve Cohn, the owner of the Mets is letting Glenny Balls call him by, by his first name. He says, Steve, can we add more all-inclusive tickets, including alcohol around the stadium like in the Eminem sweet seats?

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen. Glenny just wants to pay one price for all his food and beer. Okay. That's hard. It shouldn't be. Just can we have a buffet instead of, instead of like the handicap railings that take you down?

Oh my God. It's so fucking good. Uh, all right. So yes, uh, Jared Porter scumbag, very cringe worthy 62 on just guys, if you're sending more than three, you, you, she probably doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Okay. Three over three days. That's a good sign to stop texting.

Yeah. And I think as far as dick pics go, just never send them, just don't, just don't, unless you have a notarized form that's been signed, dated, stamped that says, I would like to see your penis on my cell phone. Well, it's also like a scared straight. Like if you were, I think Mark Cuban maybe is told this is like, if you send a, a dick pick out, you're sending it to the whole internet because eventually it will, oh yeah, it's going to come out unless it's a stock image, which again, I'm going to Google stock image

penis. Yeah. He should have been smarter and done like Getty images over it. Yeah. His, his stock image having a nice cup of coffee. I do feel bad for the report. I mean, this is, this is essentially like we hear these stories like, Hey, this is what it's like to be a woman in sports.

You're like, Oh fuck 62 fucking text messages. That's crazy and scary and weird. So maybe it was a stock because it's blurred out. You can't see it. Maybe it is the diagram that you see in health classes. This one, the one you see in health class is just the penis, this one had, this one had his shitty shower in it, which makes it even worse. Who hasn't sent this to a girl?

Oh my God. Nothing gets a girl going like seeing the health class. He also, he also sent one in his genes, which is a, that's a wiener move. And I mean that not as a wiener, like, I mean that Anthony wiener, he did that move. He hasn't been in a news release. He would send pictures, I think, like when he was hanging out with his kids of his penis in his underwear. It's not a dick pick.

Yeah. All right. Divisional round, just clean up. Dr. Mahomes apparently doesn't have a concussion, which we talked about on Sunday, but now coming out he has a pinched nerve. Yeah, it's his neck. So it was just a neck issue that caused the entire left side of his body. He basically had a stroke over the span of a quarter second is what they're saying, where

a neck just shut down one side of his body entirely, and now he's fine. So he is in the concussion protocol. Oh he is, but he doesn't need to be. Once you get put in the protocol, there's no getting out unless you pass the test at the end of the week. Yeah. I'm ready to say that I think that he will pass the concussion protocol test at the end of the week.

I think we're not paying enough attention to his foot injury. He's got turf toe. He's going to play the most serious injury in all of football. So he's going to play through both, but I do agree that the toe, it's going to make it harder for him to be 100% Patrick Mahomes, and a lot of people got mad at me because I said the bills could blow out the chiefs. I guess I should have just phrased it the lame way and been like it's a coin flip game because that's how I see it.

I was more saying that a chiefs could blow out the bills. I'm saying a blowout wouldn't surprise me either way. I think that it just wouldn't. People think that the bills blowing out the chiefs would be some shocking result, but to me it wouldn't be because I think both these teams are so fucking good that if either shows up with their A plus game, they will blow out the opponent. Yeah, the bills. That's really what the point was.

They had like three games this year where if they play like those bills, they win this game. Right. The chiefs have had, how many perfect games have the chiefs had this year? They haven't covered nine straight games. Yeah, but also the lines are like 16 and a half. No, not really. Not like that crazy.

The chiefs, I can remember them having at least two A plus games. Bills, I'm remembering like three A plus games. Yeah, but even the chiefs A plus games, like the Bucks, they had an A plus half, remember, and then they kind of let the Bucks back in. They get cute. I don't know. It's going to be, I'm very excited for the championship Sunday. I think we're going to have some good guests on Friday to break it down who maybe has been

in a few championships Sundays. But yeah, it's all going to be awesome. What was the bet that we had, Hank? If Patrick Mahomes doesn't play, it had nothing to do with a head injury, just if he didn't play, right? Yep. Okay, so if he doesn't play because of the toe, I still win the bet. I still get to capture Normie before we can make him fat.

Yeah, I think that's true. I'm going to feed him so much bad stuff. He's going to play. It's all butter. He's going to play. I'm going to give him all the stuff that gives him diarrhea right before I give him back to you. He's going to play.

Yeah, probably. You're right. He's going to play. Yeah, he's going to play. I mean, Colin Coward tried to say that the NFL should postpone the game if Patrick Mahomes can't play, which was Coward just being like, hey, I want to go viral for a bad opinion, which he does once a month. Yeah, Colin imagines that everybody that listens to his show is the vice president of marketing

or like works in finance and understands that the dollar bills mean everything to Colin. He's like, yeah, the C-suite guys in between take in between their their shareholder conference calls are just tuned into the herd real quick, get some takes and put me on mute again. What else we got? Oh, we did get a little bit. I was watching the Bucks Nets game on Monday night. Yeah, we got a little taste of who gets the last shot. So we had a two last shot situation.

So they were down, I think it was by two or another down by one, Harden took the last shot with 40 seconds left and then Miss got the rebound pass it to Kevin Durant, who then drain the last shot. And then they were up to with 30 seconds left. So it's like who's taking the last dagger shot. That was Durant. Okay. And then Kyrie might be coming back tonight.

So I think this is like a next level conversation of who gets the last shot. I think we're in kind of who's the odd man out territory, the odd man out. So I think we've got two Batman's in Harden and Durant. And then Kyrie is kind of going to end up being Robin on the side. So I'm there. Those two are definitely going to click up. I'll put it this way. I think it's like Blink 182.

I think that that Kevin Durant and James Harden are Mark and Travis. And then obviously Kyrie's Tom. And then he's off somewhere studying the aliens and then he's going to get pushed off to the side. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very excited to have the odd man out conversation. Yes.

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Your goat. My goat. Joke of it. Oh, this guy. I watched one Wimbledon match. Big cat's goat. Three years ago and I've gotten attached to this fucking scumbag. You guys may remember.

You guys may remember. But he's better than Federer. A few months ago, he hosted his own tennis event in the peak of COVID, where there was no regulations. It turned out to be a super spreader event. It basically, they traced it back to spreading coronaviruses all over the Balkans from this one event. Then, so the Australian Open, Australia has COVID under control.

They have a bunch of precautions, regulations and stuff. Jokovic sent in basically his own list of requests and suggestions on how they can actually do a better job with COVID. Oh, so he's helping. He's trying to help. He's trying to help. They shot it down immediately. We're like, you fucking idiot.

So he's trying to help. Why would we ever take advice from the guy who hosted his own tennis event? Because he knows what not to do because he already spread it everywhere. His suggestions were to basically lessen the restrictions, make it easier. Basically he was selfish. It was a bunch of selfish requests. I agree with Big Cat a little bit on this because if you're going to plan a music festival, you would hire Billy McFarland because he's made all the mistakes.

He knows all the potholes. He knows all the danger areas. So yeah, like bring Jokovic and there haven't been the blind spot guy. Dude, have you ever watched Catch Me If You Can? Boom. They fucked him up. Hire that dude. Okay.

So Jokovic is the perfect guy to hire. Also, let's just spin it this way, Hank. We talk about how much we love SEC coaches, how funny they are. He just sounds like an SEC coach. Heard immunity. He's like, hey, let's all get it and then we don't get it again, which is proven to be wrong. If you bred Mike Leach with Trevor Bauer.

Maybe a little dabbo in him. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? I will say there was a nice video of him. He's quarantining in his hotel room, going on the balcony and watching some kids play on the street. Yeah.

And he could probably hook those kids if he needed to. Wow. Thanks, Jake. You know what? Some things are bigger than sports. I don't even like tennis. Some things. That's amazing.

But he is better than feather. He looked at kids from his hotel room balcony. Yeah. Seems pretty cool. What a touching moment. It's very nice. He was like giving them some applause. Okay.

You know what? Six months from now. Not during the point. Not during the point. Novak Djokovic day. Yeah. Yeah. He was probably spitting on the kids.

You need this to be stronger. Jake, make this. Well, that's always fun on the balcony. A year later. See where your spit lands. Yeah. A year later, it's Marcus Marietta slash Novak Djokovic. Yeah.

Adam Thulis. Yes. Both of them. Yeah. So, we found out very quickly that Marcus Marietta is the most boring person to ever have a day for. All right. So, they're sharing their day.

Yeah. Today is still just Marietta. Today. Correct. 2021. Do we want it to be on a Wednesday? Because of no recording. No.

You know what? Yeah. You're right. Shift Marcus Marietta day. January 18. Yeah. January 18. What about doing it on Hank's sister's birthday?

It's always. It's a Monday. It's always the. Also, I'm okay today. There's already. Yeah. Okay. January 18, 2022, Marcus Marietta day slash Novak Djokovic.

Perfect. Slash day after Hank's sister's birthday. And my cool throne is the Peaky fucking Blinds. Yeah. They started filming season five today and now I, so I watched the Peaky Blinders during quarantine and before I watched it, I was like, I can't spoil it because I don't remember what happens. I watched it during quarantine and now that statement rings true because like, I don't

really even remember exactly what happens at the end of the seasons, but they started recording, started filming season five and then the director like creator or whatever said that there's going to be a feature film that comes out to end the entire thing, which is. Okay. That's hype. Like that's a. Real hype.

That's an exciting. Yes. It's better than a season. Like it's just nice. It's like entourage. Yeah. Yeah. The problem with that is they're going to not have the subtitles in the movie theater.

That's going to be a big pain in the ass. Well, are we ever going back to movie theaters? Like can we all agree that you just. I like going to movie theaters. I agree. Activity. I like. It's a good life.

Let's go to the movies. I want, I don't want movie theaters to go away, but I'm saying give me the option to be able to buy every single movie at home right away. But then. Like that's just let me have that. Because then I would just, I would just do, you, I focus better on a movie in the movie theaters the first time that I do at home. Yeah.

You're forced to watch it. Yeah. You're not looking at your phone. You're not getting. You're not getting as much. Yeah. I do subtitles. They need to have subtitle theaters for Peaky Blinders for sure.

But yeah, I'm hyped. Okay. Okay. Is that a heck? Yeah. That's it? Just minimum. Doing the minimum guy.

My hot seat is being able to talk about the Houston Texans on television. So Dan Orlovsky was talking about the Texans GM mess. Just the entire just shit show that is the front office right now in Houston. And he said that it's worse than is being reported. And it's worse than it's so bad. I can't say it on television. What's worse than being reported? They murdered Deshaun Watson.

He said. It's so bad. His body's rotting in the stadium. It's so bad. I can't talk about it on television. So that that takes my brain to the point where like there's murders. Yeah. They're just they're taking phone calls from Deshaun Watson and just picking up the phone

saying the inward and hanging up on him like crazy. How bad could it get that you can't say it on on television and he hasn't even no notes apt it yet. Well then it then we know that it could get worse. It could always get worse. It's no tap. Then it's the worst. It could possibly be like Doug Peterson's playing Nate Sudfeld for a few drives.

Yeah. But what could the worst of the worst? What are they doing in that office? Is it satanic orgies? They are. They are hijacked by a dude who just yeah they're going to prey on it. And I actually I feel like there's a part of them and there's actually a part of me like maybe one percent.

I'm not I'm not a god guy. But like if they pray hard enough could they win a Super Bowl. Yeah. I think so. Right. Like it's I don't know. But then you have to think that every other franchise is probably praying to not as hard as they are.

So you got other franchises are actually trying to get better on the football field. They're saying let's forget the football field. Let's just pray the fuck out of this thing. Right now if you're Joel Austin you need to go to the Houston Texan Stadium right now because you could probably get hired. Yeah. If you walk in the door with enough confidence which I know you have fly your little private jet across town land it on the 50 yard line step off and declare yourself the head coach

of the Houston Texans and say God delivered me a message. I bet you that Jack Easterby would say that's our guy. Right. God has delivered. Like that's the thing with prayer though. Like I don't think it's going to work. I don't think that them praying will replace keeping to Sean Watson and making sound roster decisions.

But what about thoughts and I don't know they're trying something different thinking outside the box. Yeah. I just I need to know what's so bad that that Daniel Lavsky can't say it on television. Oh man. They should let to Sean Watson be the coach. Yeah. Why not.

Fuck it. Yeah. My cool throne is sea shanties. How about how about wait one more thought about this. How about the fact that like Bill O'Brien has to be so happy that he left and everyone's like Bill O'Brien's the worst. What a shit show and it got way worse. Turns out Bill was keeping the team together.

He was the only he might have been bad but man do you regret getting rid of him. Well you know why. Because of Bill O'Brien at least you had a guy you could point at and say that's the problem. That's the bad guy. Who's the bad guy. You don't have anyone you can point at right then you're like what the fuck what's going on here.

You can just make up like an interim general manager and have everybody be mad at that guy. Yes. It doesn't even exist but the fact that there's nobody to blame makes it way worse. My cool throne is sea shanties. Oh yeah. Sea shanties are back in a big way. Have you have you seen and heard the sea shanties.

I don't understand what a sea shanty is. It's like Bob. It's like the devil's singing a lullaby. Oh yeah. I saw Rones that was great. The Irish. No that was that was a battle rap. No no he did the Irish rap sea shanty.

Oh the sea yeah sea shanties are like yo ho ho in a bottle of rum that type of thing. It's not the Packer fan too that made me want to puke. They've gone very viral in the last couple weeks. People are getting really into sea shanties. I want to I feel like we should do a sea shanty for Billy. We should write a sea shanty as because we did that one for Hank aren't you doing imagine dragons. I'm doing an imagine dragons one but now sea shanties are just so hot.

Okay. We'll do that. Can you combine. I hope you die. I hope you die. And if you don't don't come back ever again. I just about that. I miss Billy.

I truly do miss Billy. Yeah. Yeah. I do. It's good to have somebody that you can point at and blame. He's a fellow Bryant. Someone dropped a bunch of heavy boxes in the studio and they're just going to sit here until he comes back.

I miss Billy too. I do. I miss Billy as well. I fucking miss that guy because you know what he at least would have been like hey one order dinner. Yeah. I would have remembered to order dinner. He kept us on schedule for dinners and he would sometime if the if the studio got

too crowded with beer he'd be like hey guys can I clean this up and take a few of these cases home for you guys. That was kind of nice. All right. My hot seats is the NCAA so they screwed up the schedule. Screw up is probably the wrong word. They changed the schedule for the basketball tournament the March Madness and I know everyone would say well at least there's going to be March Madness this year agreed but they have

eliminated the first Thursday. I think this is just for this year right Jake. This isn't. Yeah. They're still the first. No they eliminated it because Thursday is the greatest day in the calendar when you're like we have four days of this it is the best day ever. So they've changed it.

It now goes Friday. So Thursday is the first four Friday Saturday first round Sunday Monday round two. So we're going to be watching I see I can't I can't get into this. It's tough like doing Monday is not a day to be tuning into true TV. It's a recovery day. It is. Can you imagine how sad that's going to be. You've got to cut Gravel on the true TV he always does like waking up to seeing this

on true TV. Yeah. Like some like crime show. Yeah. It's like Castle. Yeah. So and then I do actually like that they're the sweet 16 and lead eight sweet 16 is Saturday Sunday lead eight Monday Tuesday I'm OK with that because the lead eight is it's weird

when you have the lead eight on that Saturday and Sunday and you're like wait there's only two games. Yeah. Like where's the rest of my basketball whereas now you'll work all day Monday and then you get basketball at the end of the day. But the fucking I the second round being on a Monday is just my brain cannot understand it. It really sucks because that is the end of that week where you get the Thursday and

the Friday off where you check out on Wednesday afternoon. You know that that's the last piece of work you're doing that right. And then Thursday morning you come in and you can just kind of coast into the weekend. Now you check out on that Friday morning which is fine. Take that Friday off or if you're at work don't do any work. But then on Monday morning that's a whole new week. So people if you don't do any work on that Monday your boss is going to be like what the hell this is a new week.

We got to get shit done. Right. It really pushes a problem on you where you have to work while watching the games as opposed to pretending to it. It's also just change. Yeah. Do change. And what about the vasectomies.

When are we going to do this. Someone's getting screwed out of their vasectomy. Someone's going to get a vasectomy on that Thursday. Let us know if you scheduled a vasectomy on that Thursday and now it's four games. You're going to go in come back and you're going to have like a bag of frozen peas on your nuts. And you're going to be watching like Murray State play against Creighton. Yeah.

And then well Creighton's going to be sure. And then Monday you're going to be back at work and there's going to be games on. All right. My cool throne is the state of Michigan because the Barstool Sportsbook app is coming to the state of Michigan on Friday at 12 p.m. We will be live the Barstool Sportsbook app. You can download it right now actually. You can put in money right now.

We're also matching pennies matching if you deposit and play with them with what you deposit they will match for the Barstool Fund in the state of Michigan. So we're going to help local businesses in the state of Michigan and we'll be a Greek town watching the conference championship games on Sunday. You can watch us on a live stream and go download the app. Very excited about that. Detroit's one of my favorite cities. Even if you don't live in Michigan it's nice to have the app like I just use it to check

lines and stuff. Yeah. Exactly. And play a game. What's the line. Yeah. What has the line moved in the in the Buffalo game. It's two and a half right now.

Let me see. Which would. Yeah. It's weird. I mean I guess people think the bills are good. Jake do you have a hot see is the Australian cricket team. India upset them. India had a bunch of injuries.

India wagon. Yeah. I wouldn't call that an upset. As a matter of fact Jake you've lost a lot of our Indian listeners by the context. By the way Duke is not ranked for the first time in like forever. Neither is North Carolina. Our coach case. First time in the sixties.

India's cricket team gutted by injuries and deflated by hearing racist abuse from the home crowd defeated a confident Australian team on its home turf. The one is being called one of the greatest in India's cricketing history. Yep. All right. I said this is like such a Cinderella story for anyone to win this game. Very happy. Wait for the 30 for 30.

Yeah. How long did the game last. I don't know. Six days. Five. Yeah. Five weeks. Cool thrown is Willy Wonka.

They're making a prequel in 2023. They've already redone. Yeah. Yeah. The redo wasn't good. The OG won. The redo was scary. Yeah.

There's just no originality anymore. It's sad. It is sad. Like let's just look at movies that made money. How can we squeeze more money out of it. Let's make a prequel that no one cares about like no one gives a fuck what Willy Wonka was doing. I like I don't know.

Just make boner dogs. Make boner dogs. I'm actually like how did he how did he come up with that factory and why wasn't he seen for a long time. It's not Charlie. It's Willy Wonka. Yeah. I'm kind of how do you get all the fucking what's it called Oompa Loompas.

How do those where those guys come from. I'm talking. I'm in. I'm in. Are these questions we don't want the answer to. I'm with him. I'm once again asking you to stop remaking movies. I don't.

It's not a remake. It's a prequel prequel. Is it gritty. If you just put the word gritty prequel in there and I'm all in the more I'm thinking about it some fucking random dude single dude in his like fifties owns a chocolate factory. He hasn't been seen for 20 years. He's got a bunch of Oompa Loompas going around in a chocolate river and all this scary shit. How the fuck did that happen.

I don't know. I but if you get Joaquin Phoenix to play the role on back I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Now that I've talked it through I'm in on this movie because I have a lot of questions. All right. Let's get to our interview with Duncan Robinson. Great interview with Duncan Robinson.

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He has a new podcast it is called the long shot. It is under the JJ Reddick 3 4 2 productions. It's coming out. I think I don't know what we're going to we're going to put this out next week so it just it already is out. You can download it you can get it anywhere you can get podcasts Duncan thank you for joining us. We start anytime someone comes on is like I got a new podcast like what's your problem

man are you trying to you try to squeeze us out. What's going on here. I don't think you need to worry about that. I think you guys have you know solidified your your place within the market but more so just trying to motivate you know what I mean just provide some more competition. Hopefully inspire you guys to stay on the top of your game which you've been on for quite some time so thank you for that. No we appreciate hungry dogs run faster so it's good to have somebody nipping at the

old heels there. I saw you had a great game yesterday congratulations we're trying to impress us you're just doing that so that we would gas you up a little bit when he came on here that was in the back of my mind I think it probably would have been more impressive if it was in a winning effort but you know nonetheless go and do what you can so unfortunately we're not able to get it done. Yeah it's got to be so sweet to just catch fire and just know that like every time you shoot the ball it's going to go in like that Steph Curry video that came out a couple weeks

ago when he hit was like a hundred three threes in a row in practice what's what's the most consecutive threes that you've made just in a gym by yourself. I'd probably say I think somewhere around the 60s I think Steph was 105 which was incredibly impressive I've never gotten on video like that but yeah I think I'm somewhere in the 60s. God damn it. You must feel like a superhero when you do that. That's awesome.

I so badly want to be able to shoot a three pointer like that even like ten in a row would be incredible. Yeah I mean I feel that way towards dunking and being able to jump really high so I feel you in that that sort of emotion of want but yeah I can do the shooting thing but the other areas I struggle. That's a it's a debate that we've had on this show before what's sicker being able to like throw down a sick dunk or just getting really hot from three. In a pickup perspective like I've always thought like in a pickup perspective when someone

gets really hot from three and you're playing pickup basketball and they can basically end the game it's the coolest thing. There's a dunk. You know guys dunk sometimes but it's always like alright dude you're kind of showing off in a pickup game. I don't know. I think I'd push back on that I feel like in a regular pickup setting dunks would be just more impressive in that anyone can kind of get hot and you know string together four

or five makes from three in a row but you're not like going through a lot of random courts and seeing guys just like flying through the air dunking on people. Yeah I mean I guess it's usually the dunks happen like on fast breaks when no one's around and they can like really line themselves up. I think if it's a pickup game where there's another guy on the court that can also dunk then it's cool to dunk but if you're like the only one out there that has an asshole then it's a little bit of an asshole move. Play below the rim.

Alright so people know I think most people know your back story but let's go through it again just because it is incredible. You went to a college Williams College which no one really knows of it's a division three. You were an athlete there. You transferred to Michigan. You played three years in Michigan was in a national title in division three and division one and then ended up in the NBA like so what like it was there a moment in time where like holy shit this is actually happening like I'm actually doing this because Williams

College to the NBA that's that's insane. I would imagine Williams College is not much different than a like a really good pickup game. No offense to Williams College but offense it's better than a really good pickup game. I will say that it's small college basketball does not get the recognition that it probably deserves but without being said there were various moments throughout the journey when I was like I can't believe this is actually happening. But also like when I transferred to Michigan I wasn't like some stud at Michigan either

I was very much a role player I was on good teams fortunate enough to be on some some really good teams and win a lot but you know I wasn't this like surefire thing that I was going to be an NBA player so it's always kind of been this like incremental process of growth and realization that I might have a chance to be able to do something so you know just just been able to take advantage of opportunities basically. Would you say that if other kids that were in division three let's say well let's say Williams specifically let's just use Williams as an example if they played sports at Williams if they had any bit of like can do attitude or like stick to itiveness they too can be

successful in life or do you think that maybe you're just the unicorn and you're different than everyone else. No I don't think I'm any sort of unicorn or different you know I don't want to put a ceiling or a cap on anybody but you know if you're out of place like Williams like Williams is a great school so I wouldn't blame people for like leaning into the academic side of that you know and being successful in another world if you're not very smart though yeah you're also stupid yeah you're dumb but you play a sport Williams would you recommend maybe if you have any eligibility left maybe go into a big state school like

Michigan to use up that one year athletically and maybe get some buzz going towards your athletic career. Yeah that probably seems like the right move yeah honestly at that point if you're you know division three athlete and you're not very smart I still think you're capable of doing anything put your mind to it but yeah yeah that's definitely got some things working against you at that point. It's interesting on a real note you mentioned how you weren't sure or there were a lot of people out there who weren't sure that your game would translate from what it was in college

as kind of a role player like a catch and shoot guy pretty much into the NBA but as you I guess you had the heat kind of take a chance on you they believed in you a little bit was there a moment when you were practicing or maybe it was you know like in the developmental league where you realized hey I can do this like this is an actual opportunity for me that I can succeed at. Yeah that probably came in the summer league you know I referenced kind of my role at Michigan and I think summer league allowed me to kind of be viewed in a little bit of a different light and that I was asked to do a little bit more and given some more opportunity so

when I had a pretty good start to summer league and at that point I was like started thinking you know maybe I could maybe do this and then I spent a year basically in the G-League back and forth with the heat and then from there it just kind of builds you know over time. I read that that Spolstra makes you run sprints if you pump fake in practice is that still true to like encourage you to trust your shot and pull the trigger? We're past that fortunately that was early on when I first got to training camp my first year just because like I couldn't wrap my mind around this idea that like he wanted

me to shoot every time I touched it basically it was just like so strange to me that I was on the same team as like Dwayne Wade who won like three NBA championships but I'm the one like the undrafted guy who averaged eight points a game his senior year in college to shoot it every time so there's definitely some you know push and pull with that and then once I finally was able to kind of wrap my mind around that and just be like super aggressive that's when it all kind of started to come together I guess. How much did you have to pay Jimmy Butler for the coffee? I didn't pay Jimmy anything.

What? I don't really drink coffee. Oh. I don't drink coffee but truth to that I wouldn't I wouldn't have paid him even if I did I think that's an absolute scam of a deal $20 for a coffee. But it was really good coffee I heard. Wait did other people pay? Other people paid right?

Other people did pay you know once again that you heard it was really good coffee I mean who really knows I mean he's controlling the narrative with that type of stuff you know directing what comes out of big-based coffee so I mean I heard it was like pretty good relative to what we had to deal with or what we are supposed to do in the bubble but I don't think it was like anything above and beyond so at least that's my interpretation. If you just charge $20 for coffee then people will assume that it's good it's one of those things where it's like psychologically controlling it's expensive therefore I'm enjoying it. Right and he has all like the different like make I don't even know how to make coffee really

but like he has all the different machines and devices to like and as access to all the best beings whatever you want to call it so maybe it is really good I don't I wouldn't be able to tell like I you can try McDonald's or Dunkin Donuts coffee and they would taste the same to me I'm just not a big coffee guy personally. Well I owe you an apology then because when we when the story came out in the summer and we were talking about like who's who's actually buying this coffee I pretty much was like yeah I mean Dunkin Robinson and Myers Leonard are on the team like essentially calling you guys bitches but I was like yeah they're definitely paying whatever Jimmy says the coffee price

is so my apology you did not buy the coffee was there like that that run obviously you guys came short but the bubble run like we talked to a few different people who were in the bubble over the last few months was it helpful for you guys to all be together all the time and like have that cohesive unit and and get along with each other because it seemed like you guys got along yeah we we felt that it was a big competitive advantage for us mostly just because we really enjoyed being around each other and I think that there other teams around the league that maybe that way so for us it was like an opportunity to use that as an advantage and we also had guys that were like kind of willing to embrace

what comes with basically being in like isolation for a hundred days and just being able to lock in and focus on the opportunity at hand so I think it helped us for sure but it's definitely a challenge certainly wasn't easy I mean a hundred days without seeing your family friends or basically being able to leave the confines of Disney World is definitely a challenge is there anything that you miss about the bubble I don't know about miss but I did really enjoy like you know professional basketball is very different than college basketball and that like in college you do everything with your teammates and you live together you like train you study like you do everything you practice games travel all

that stuff and professionals is different and that you know guys show up and then when they leave they go home to their families and they treated very much like a job so I like the bubble in that we ate all our minutes together we're always around each other and you've got to know your teammates just on a different level which I was I was appreciative of and really the beneficiary of and that I had the opportunity to sit down with guys like Andre Jimmy and really get to like pick their brain on different things. So is Jimmy Butler a good teammate? Jimmy Butler is a great teammate I don't understand the media twist on what he is not saying you guys know I'm sure you guys don't I think he's a top five

player. If PFT is slander Jimmy Butler I know no no I used to slander him but Jimmy Butler like legitimately has become one of my favorite players in the entire NBA but he used to slander him a lot. Yeah I mean I will say this like I don't necessarily blame like the general public for developing those types of opinions because that's what you hear from the media like that's what gets pushed you know now that I've had the opportunity to kind of be in it and see what he's like on a day to day like he's a great teammate. He challenges people and he pushes people and you know a lot of people aren't willing or wanting to maybe hear that but in the reality it's just trying to achieve success to try to win and

try to push you and try to get a better version of yourself. So he certainly had a huge impact on my career and I'm thankful to have played with him. Yeah I mean it was really just a T-Wolves thing because the Bulls his exit from the Bulls was 100% blamed on the Bulls and then the T-Wolves you know they didn't want to pay him a long term deal and that they they separate but it seems like I would have like from the outside I think most people now have kind of changed their perception been like he's clearly a good teammate he's clearly a guy who you know the whole argument was can you win a championship with him being like the best guy. You were pretty damn close and obviously LeBron is an AD it's very hard

to beat them but you guys were pretty close. Do you think there was was there any part of you that's like if we didn't have a couple of those injuries because like Dragon's gets injured Bam gets injured. Do you think that that series would have been maybe a little bit more competitive? Yeah obviously you know the competitive side of us we really believe that and we know that when we're at our best we're capable of beating anybody it's obviously not a perfect game and it's not gonna be a perfect situation or scenario so you know you have guys go down like that you don't want to make excuses or put asterisms on things because that's just not how basketball works you know people deal with or sports in general you know people deal with injuries and

still find ways so certainly no excuses but obviously we would have loved to have played that whole series with a full and healthy roster and you know see where the chips have fallen on that it doesn't guarantee anything but I think it certainly we would have had a better chance at it for sure. Who has sicker tattoos? You or Tyler Hero? I mean that one's gotta go to Tyler. I don't have any tattoos so I think by default he's gotta take them. Oh I thought you had an arm tattoo there's a if you look up a picture of yourself on google images there's a picture of you with an arm tattoo. Yeah I don't spend too much time on google images of myself but that may have been started in that there was some controversy or basically a story that had kind of been pushed

from JJ Redick actually because you know he's got the sleeve and everything that I should get some tattoos to kind of raise my credibility and respect around the league and that that would help so I've been thinking about it you know I don't know if you guys have any opinions on that if you think I should yes yeah absolutely bring back barbed wire yeah barbed wire is always a winning move. Yes absolutely get it it just makes you instantly like everything about your game will be better if you have a sleeve. Yeah I've thought that I've also thought that like from a disrespect standpoint you know like whether officials or the opposition you know I particularly like in the playoffs I got you know targeted a lot on defense I figured maybe that would happen a little bit less

if I had some so how much does that suck like when when you could tell the other team is essentially their game plan is like let's just do pick and rolls till Duncan Robinson is one-on-one with LeBron do you what are you saying to yourself in those moments um I mean we we put in schemes so like try to avoid that not to get like basketball like no please dude no yeah yeah yeah so like there's obviously like defensive schemes on like shows and like you know hard hedges and stuff like that to like just kind of put two on the ball for a second then have me rotate out so I'm not um you know I pretty much switch in everybody with everybody in the league except like those those guys like you know LeBron's which honestly like I'm just truthfully like I'm not

built to guard yeah that's not like a shameful thing to be like hey I can't guard LeBron James yeah there's there's like it's for a while there it was hard and it was kind of like a mentally like a mental hurdle I had to get over but then it was also like you know what it's not really personal like of course we're going to be better as a team at jimmy or bam our guarding is guarding LeBron instead of me like that that's just a fact I don't think anyone would argue with that so if we can figure out a way for me not to be on LeBron uh then that would be very beneficial so so knowing that then uh was it hurtful to your feelings when spo is like at the whiteboard and he's like the make sure that Duncan never gets left out on an island defense like this is specifically we're

scheming everything up doing film study for you did that hurt your feelings I mean it's it's once again like it's all in the pursuit of winning you know like you can't get caught too much in your emotions and and try to go down that path like it's it's not personal it's just about winning and it also helps that I'm not the only one on our team that does it like it makes it feel a little bit better that I'm not just like the odd guy out that just has to show on every ball screen that there are you know it's LeBron like there's other there's other people that can't guard them too like I'm not the only one so that that feels better but at the same time like it's just getting over the fact that like it's just about winning like when you look at it like that it's like this

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it would make for a great story if i were to be um on the spurs yeah um but you know it's how it works out just you know we're going to take that completely out of context that quote that you just said so uh duncan robinson demands trade to san Antonio yeah yeah definitely definitely uh not demanding a trade anyway i'm very happy where i'm at how how hated would you have been if you were a four-year starter at duke the answer is very hated by the way just your face in your name yeah probably not up there with like the jj erratic and grace and alan mostly just because i probably wouldn't have had like their statistical resume like you got to remember those guys are are hated because of how great they were like they were great college players yes there were some other

things thrown in there yeah well you know whatever um so i think i would have been like a couple tears below it maybe like a john shire i think he was kind of hated as well so maybe somewhere at threshold he was he wasn't so much hated as he was like punchable like you just wanted to hit him and bully him a little bit i get i get that a lot though i get the punchable face a lot i don't know i don't know if you guys have any insight into this what makes a face punchable because clearly mine seems to be to the general public it's long you have a long face not like in a bad way you're a good looking dude i can say that we're pumping each other up in 2021 but i think there's like enough there's enough face there you know what i mean

i think you've got a good haircut now but i can tell that you used to not have a good haircut so i would have liked to punch you like maybe five years ago there yeah that's reason yeah i i mean i i grew the long face i i get made fun of a lot because i have a big head um i think it's like low hanging fruit of a joke but if people want to make it that's fine yeah no i again you're a good looking dude but it's like it whenever i think of punchable faces people with tiny faces you don't want to punch because you might miss yeah but isn't there also the downside of like a bigger head potentially like then hurting your hand yeah true true you got a lot ahead yeah you punch back not always bad yeah right right um i so we're we're good friends with mark titus and the story

came out i think he uh tweeted out in september that when you were at michigan you hit him up being like hey uh wondering if i can get some career advice because you thought that uh you didn't have a career in the mba so one i want to know like was that real were you actually like this is over i'm going to be a media person and then two i'm looking at the text right now you text like a crazy person what was the breakup in these texts is mid-sentence that you'd start a new text yeah so once again i think that got taken out of context a little bit um i mean i'm reading the text that's the context yeah well you're the first part of your statement okay the crazy that i'll address later um the first part being in that it was actually for a class we were supposed

to like it was for a career planning class so you know i was a sport management major and we're in class and we have to reach out to somebody in our field who we you know feel that we might be interested in so it's not like i could interview whatever jj reddick like that it just wouldn't have flown so i reached out to mark just because i'd listened to some of this stuff and i had a mutual connection um and but at that point like it was something that i was potentially interested in at that point i was definitely not like a surefire mba player um but it was something to to just kind of check the box and maybe having the back pocket uh in terms of the the text i don't remember the exact formatting of the text i certainly didn't think that it would be under like public scrutiny

at this point i thought it was just between us but uh i understand that's how the world works where just everything is uh open to the general public okay the media runs with everything mark was like mark titus yeah he was cloud chasing you we can just say it right now he was straight up cloud chasing you and it's fucked up what he did i don't think so because mark and i are legitimately friends so uh with that being said i don't i don't mind it's different if it was like some random person who was just kind of like being opportunistic in the moment and trying to go viral whatever but he was legitimately just posting like i came and i have constant communication now yeah so it was it was fun for me i actually am realizing it right now

i've put it together so if you read it if you look at the the text they're like broken up each in the middle of a sense of new paragraph you know what it is titus was like the longest oh i'm an android dude i'm a fucking hipster i'm not i'm not gonna be an apple guy like i'm not gonna let all you guys tell me what to buy and he recently became an iphone guy like six months ago so i bet that's why the text come through like that i figured it out no i i totally sent it as one okay the formatting got screwed up on his like his cricket wireless pay as you go special so not only is it a cloud chaser but he made you look bad so he's really just a shithead i don't i don't think so let me ask you this would you ever take a screenshot of one of

his text messages like where maybe he came off a little bit thirsty and then publicize it on the internet and tell everybody about it well you know we have we have different jobs like he's in the the media sphere so people want to see like he's responsible for producing content i'm responsible for playing basketball so i i think that's what i don't want to quote board mark right is he's a it's true you're right he's one of us blog boys and and you're out there actually making millions shooting hoops his dream you're the man in the fucking arena i love it i love it get into put a jersey on mark put a jersey on mark mark warren jersey it fair to these good calling yeah yeah yeah it was like a big-ass baggy white t-shirt you made a complete joke of the competition

trying not to touch the ball it's a farce we actually do love mark yeah we can say all this stuff and you're allowed to call my shithead too if you'd like to i'm good at mark mark's a good guy i'm a fan he's had me on his show multiple times i hope to have him on mine so you know we're all good one of my uh one of my fantasies is if i was ever that good at basketball and had you know a six three point shot it would be to just roll up to some random pickup game or like an outside game dressed like a complete nerd and like sandbag the shit out of him and then in the game i just start making it rain on him and put up like 50 60 points like non-stop nobody could guard me have you ever done that have or has the thought ever occurred to you like that would be pretty cool

if i could just show up to like lifetime fitness wearing you know the the shortest bike shorts possible uh like an old school looney tunes t-shirt and then just stay on the court for like six hours at a time you know i i've thought about doing that um the problem is that i'm like six seven six eight so any like random basketball game like i'm by far still like the tallest player there and i'm that that alone separates me you know what i mean so it's it's hard for me to like totally lean into like the billy hoyle white men can't jump type of thing um just because like if i was like five ten or five eleven then it would be different because i would just kind of blend in but i i still stick out just in that regard yeah um we were at the national championship game uh

villanova michigan how much did that suck oh that was tough man it was uh villanova there are not there are not a lot of games that i have like deep rooted regret about but that is certainly one of them um i mean i just laid an egg and we laid an egg as a team they were really good obviously and they played great but i was tough i was gonna say you shouldn't regret that that was villanova was just inscrubbed as the dante dante couldn't miss we were we were in the stadium which is the worst stadium ever to watch a basketball game in san antonio like i i don't know how they have final fours there but it was it wasn't your fault it wasn't michigan's fault villanova was a fucking wagon and they just came out and blitzed you guys yeah no they they were tough um and they

played they were playing really well at the right time um i more so for myself like a personal standpoint of i just didn't play well that game um so you know your last college game you you want to just leave a little bit more of an impact and we actually we made a run in the second half you probably don't remember this maybe we all thought it was more of a run than it actually was to get it like right around like 11 or 12 where it's like you know if you make a run from there and you get it's like five or six and it kind of gets interesting but we just weren't able to to get it to that point no we do remember because we all bet big on villanova so when you made a mini baby run we're like wait is this and they're like nah just kidding this is the easiest bet ever

so you had so you had absolutely no faith is what i'm no none no we were we were fucking high five heavily leveraged on villanova they started wapping threes like right from the get go we're like this is awesome well i thought there'd at least be some big 10 loyalty there now yeah i mean if you guys did one i would have just flipped it and been like yeah big 10 and i shouldn't have brought this up because now you can mention we're taping this right after michigan had like what was it 46 to 3 run on wisconsin i've never seen anything like it yeah that was uh i didn't get to watch because we played last night but i watched the highlights and uh man michigan looks tough right now oh oh actually this is uh an appropriate question for that so you were when you were a

senior at michigan how old are you you're 23 24 i was 23 uh for the whole season and then i turned 24 in in april after the year okay so wisconsin's very old team wise they have like a lot of older guys is it can you be too old in college like is that a thing no i don't think that's a thing um i think that it's really like the the young teams early on the struggle but like you know a team like wisconsin when you have that age and experience particularly early on is when you're going to be really good because you just have that as such an advantage and then as teams grow and learn and start to figure things out over the year i think that becomes less and less of an advantage but i mean wisconsin's obviously tough but michigan just had a role in last night yeah they're

awesome i do i am going to use that though the too old in college uh line and just be like joints are getting achy they're playing against 19 year olds get arthritis a ton of you know bounce and what are you gonna do have you ever thought about faking your birth certificate and saying that you're a couple years younger like they do in baseball sometimes you know i think that that would do wonders for my career i think unfortunately now that the kind of verdict is out that i'm 26 and then my third year which is incredibly old um but if i could retroactively go back and make that happen i think that would really be advantageous to my playing career was that kind of strange get into the nba and you're a rookie yeah but you're you know three years older four years older than the

other rookies under there is there a big age gap at that point between someone who's who's 24 as a professional and someone who's 20 the weirdest part of it was being a rookie at 24 and having like our leader or one of our leaders bam being 22 and like me being one of the young guys but being 24 and bam being like our captain yeah 22 like it was just kind of like demoralizing in that sense but you also always have to have the perspective and like remind yourself like you know what i'm just running my own race over here you know just like blinders on just stay locked in our intern billy football is like dying to talk to you so i think you you you listen to the show so i think you knew what we were talking about at the start of the show we were talking about

williams i think most people picked up on that but uh billy is essentially the duncan rob it's like remember those old commercials like this is your brain this is your brain on drugs it's like this is your brain duncan robinson weapon threes in the nba this is your brain on drugs billy football sitting on a broken couch with us idiots uh as an intern that's that's pretty much the difference the two the two roads have divided williams college what you could be and what if you just fail at everything no you end up but that's billy football that's my introduction winning at the highest level he's looking forward to a fight against hozakin sick of billy's dominating life you didn't know we were talking about billy right you did right yeah okay good i will say though i i will say billy's

crush i mean he's an intern for the basically the biggest podcast in america i don't know how you could be doing much better than that that's true winning he's winning at life winning at life uh quick question nugget uh do you know that you probably are the only person in history to lose in a d3 championship because wisconsin whitewater a d1 championship and an nba final damn wow brutal probably the only person in history billy brutal is her question no that's that wasn't a question no i'm just it's it's it's kind of crazy but it's just that's not a question though okay that's not an awesome war question no let him respond why don't you be polite yeah let him respond dunk and go ahead well i'm i'm just confused as to how you would think that i wouldn't know that

every single day of my life acknowledging the fact that i've made it to the championship at all three levels and lost well the real the real question was that's literally what keeps me going which was the worst i would probably i mean it's it's really hard to yeah i will say like the michigan one hurt but we as we alluded to earlier like that game was pretty much over with 10 minutes to go um the wisconsin one was we won like we were going to win four seconds on the clock i missed a shot our big man tips it in like the game's over like we're gonna win i'm thinking to myself running back on defense we just won a national championship and the kid goes to the length of the floor in two point whatever seconds in scores of the buzzer so that one like just the

change of emotions to lose in that way that one was like crushing for sure so a lot of people are saying that uh you know mike mayer should have taken that shot at the end of wisconsin tons of white water there's a lot of every show by talking about all time what if you know a lot of people think that you may have not been able to you know do a d3 the rigors of a d3 schedule class athletics it might have been a little too much that's why you had to go d1 with a lot more you know funding and stuff but uh anyway huge fan and uh just wanted to know if you could retweet eave sports uh because they always tweet about you and they've just been trying to get your attention but you know if you could thank you i i got your map i'm uh i'm not active on twitter

but i'll be sure to do that man i got quinn is great yeah brutal absolutely just terrible questions here's uh my last question i we like to do this so dungan robinson has a podcast everyone should listen to it it's um it's out now it's called the long shot it's under the jj reddick uh three four two productions so we do the um people also ask on google if you just type in your name like what do they also ask the top question is is dunkin robinson good that's the question people are wondering care to discuss i think i i think that's a fair question uh you know particularly with kind of the the fact that i kind of came on in the scene last year i think there's probably a lot of people out there that would argue that i'm i'm not that good um but you know i'm more concerned with the

the people in my corner who uh who do believe in me and you know i try not to get too caught up in in that sort of stuff but it's it's certainly a fair question that i think warrants asking clearly i mean that's what the the public want to know i think it's i think you're good the actual like someone it must be a blog or something but they're like dunkin robinson is good so i'm looking at this one answer right here and it said dunkin robinson is a six foot eight flamethrower out of michigan whoa are you a flamethrower that's that's pretty fucking cool yeah that that's a uh a title i haven't leaned into fully but i'll i'll take it i think that's a good idea for the tattoo get flames on your right arm and then you hit a three you lose me there with the right arm though i'm not touching

the right arm the right arm needs to be preserved at all costs strictly for the buckets all right well the the left arm get flames on it you hold up the left and you do the number three when you hit a shot you've got that you've got a bucket on your team tyler hero and you've got a flamethrower on the team you can't you can't beat that that that could work i could work do you guys my last question i forgot to ask this do you guys play better in the uh city uniforms do you think um i would probably say no uh i don't really think it makes a difference my first year though there was a legitimate conspiracy that the city uniforms were like cursed or bad or whatever you want to call it we could not win to the point where we actually we called the league and changed like

on the last second notice of like we're not going to lose anything right so you so you just contradicted yourself though because when you're like it doesn't matter i think it does matter and then you just prove that it does matter because you guys suck but it's it's it's two years ago this is a new year the energy has shifted the city uniforms are no longer what they once were their different colors everything's changed the the courts changed with it it's totally a different experience you can't project that former experience onto these new jerseys have been unfair is it easier to shoot in an empty arena like i know the the bubble was different because it wasn't arena but what is it like shooting in an arena with no one no fans it's easier if anything i can probably

say it's it's harder um not like ridiculously harder but it's just strange like having such a giant arena 18 000 person arena and just have it be dead silent and empty is weird um so that's been an adjustment the bubble was nice because we were shooting in empty arenas but they were made to be empty arenas you know there's a tight backdrop there were the fake fans and everything so it didn't feel like you were in this giant place but the empty arenas have definitely been an adjustment um my last question is how cool is pat riley so cool um just he just brings it every time you see him this this look back here the uh just the aura you know it precedes him and he he lives up to it fully so uh super fortunate to to learn from him and just be in his organization because

he is truly the the godfather he's just the coolest yeah he's just he's always been the coolest yeah really you got one last question go ahead sorry if i was coming off as a dick i was texting some of your former teammates and uh they wanted me to bust your balls so what don't i was really that's the excuse you're going if you're going to be a dick don't apologize for me to ask this question own it own it i'm a dick sorry who are you texting with tell duncan so he can at least some of his former teammates say their names i want your names yeah i will not reveal my sources no say one of their names come on billy uh never no come on i'm not gonna expose them like that do you still talk to are you still friends with those guys well i don't know what he's talking about

i'm still i'm still good friends with uh a handful of people from williams but that's why i'm very very curious to see or to hear what he's talking about okay so one thing that you need to learn about billy's he's also a liar no so he's probably not texting with anybody from williams and that's why he's saying i'm not going to give it my foot my sources because billy would absolutely give up his sources in a heartbeat if he thought he was in trouble all right so here's what we're gonna do we're gonna end end the interview and he's gonna tell you right after we end it so uh duncan thank you very much for joining us everyone go download the long shot best of luck in the podcast world has been fun you also are now a recurring uh uh guest so you

have to come on anytime we ask and uh also have to bring jimmy butler next time but we appreciate it man it was good talking to you i appreciate it thanks for having me on always been a big fan of the show so uh in honor to be included thank you thank you and now billy you can we'll cut this part but go ahead tell yes we are we're gonna cut it we'll cut it billy it was some guys it was some guys who had been like you know freshman sophomores when he was seeing you just say their names shut up you know i i don't actually know i never played with but i i know i know billy over oversold his his connections to your teammates shocker Duncan robinson was brought to you by our great friends over at cbs all access the road to super

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wanted to say thanks for making the past four plus years of my life a lot funnier i don't really have a job lined up yet currently and i don't really know what i want to do i was wondering if you guys only fans only fans only fans are saturated with with girls right now that's what i read that there are too many that have logged on we're just making it tough on the early adopters of it yeah but i feel like there's probably still a market for dudes uh yeah only fans are twitch streamer right yeah just please also feels like start playing more video games crypto finance here or minor or minor crypto mining yeah what do you have to do to get a crypto mine set up the if you have to ask you can't afford it move to slash i don't understand it

chili yeah uh do the boys ever miss blogging as much as the old days love the show yes i do i very much miss blogging a lot i used to blog i mean in the old old days lose my only job we'd blog 12 times a day so being locked in on the internet like that uh was a lot of fun i miss it a lot i very much miss the monday morning bowel movement i used to love writing that column but i can't anymore because of time obviously but i think we both we both kind of feel that blogging things and being forced to write things makes you think about it more in a way that would prepare you to talk about it absolutely so i i miss doing that a lot i think i'm going to get back into the blog game though once football season i am not going to make any there have been

discussions yeah i'm not i'm not going to make any promises i can't keep so i will not be getting back into the blog i feel like it's something you have to be locked into correct you have to really be like locked in otherwise it's not something you can just come and go right that's the that when it like back in the day it was literally wake up take sell out grab a cup of coffee sit at my computer for eight hours straight and like read everything that comes across every joke every story everything and like when you would go away for two hours you felt like you missed a year on the internet yeah internet's a weird thing like that if you if you like don't look at the internet for four hours you feel like you missed 10 years but if you don't look at the internet for a week

you feel like you missed absolutely nothing how long do you think you could go right now without using the internet at all for anything the rest of my life i'm on vacation no netflix oh no no scrolling on your phone none none if i'm not if i'm somewhere tropical zero zero days zero zero hours seconds 10 days 10 days if i'm in like vacation yeah yeah i mean you're that's totally checked out my body is already you actually do that every time you go on vacation and we need anything from you that's what you need to do when you're on vacation you need to unwind my favorite part of when hank goes on vacations when we toss something into a show and then like six days later later we'll hear hank we'll get a text being like hey just listen to the show yeah i will not be

i will not be vacation shamed my husband is addicted addicted to nicotine pouches these small white nicotine vessels have become the bane of my existence not only is it incredibly unattractive to see the pouch bulging out of his mouth but he's developed a concerning habit of leaving used pouches throughout our home gross there is no rhyme or reason to where he places them no room is safe oftentimes i find them unflushed in the toilet littered across his bedside table or in the side compartment of the car door even worse our seven month old puppy and 16 month old son have become obsessed with finding the aforementioned pouches and putting them in their mouse if my son sees a container in the ground he picks it up and hands it to his dad at this

point he's enabling the addiction how can i convince my husband to quit i am begging you to read this on the show as i know he'll be listening and he responds well to public shaming okay listen dude you're gross uh the actually dipping nicotine pouches not tobacco i'm not going to shame that leaving him out is a fucking psycho move leaving him out for your son is beyond psycho move your gross fix it just do dip like responsibly don't do it in front of your kid don't leave it around your house and also for the wife uh you should just start leaving your tampons everywhere and be like oh we're just leaving shit out so here it is i think that's that's a fair compromise it sounds like he's not doing the the dip and the spit it's just the white

pouches so it's really weird for him to just like take something out of his mouth and put it on a desk that's crazy yeah that's a crazy i've got the only thing crazier is is leaving an unopened mountain dew full mountain dew bottle that'd be disgusting and that if that's the case leave his ass but here my i have a suggestion this might be a little too nuts just get a trash can just put a trash cans in rooms yeah everywhere just have him put get the biggest trash can you can get yeah that's my dream house is having like a dumpster in my kitchen no here's what you do then you never have to take out the trash here's what you do spot the problem just put trash cans in every room and have the little basketball hoop above the trash cans yes and then it's a game for

him yep and then every time he makes a shot you'll have to like applaud for him and cheer yep like life is going well for me but i do sometimes think about how sweet life was when i was in college and i just had two like outs outside garbage cans inside because i'd only had to take out the trash once every two weeks and that was incredible sometimes there was actually a little there was a phase there where we didn't even have trash bags now that i'm thinking yeah that's really fucking i used to push mine on the porch and we'd have a controlled burn we got in trouble dammit yeah those are the days lately immediately after my boyfriend comes he starts humming the rift to seven nation army by the white stripes i've asked him to stop but he insists that is

instinctive like a cat purring how do i get him to stop uh have him start doing it while you're fucking that seems that seems more like a during sex song than a post-coitus hymn yeah is that the one yeah that's like a good stroke yeah that's it's a good rhythm that's not after yeah after you need to like you need to chill out that's like actually it's foreplay that that's like a kickoff song like right as you know curb street and chris fowler like and we're live and you know happy valley yeah then you're like let's get it going yeah that's what i can get him on something else for after get him on the fox in a fellow injury music yeah eat her pussy and hum that guaranteed come

hey there jumpsuit geniuses my boyfriend got drunk on saturday night and got his ears pierced by some girl at a party he really likes them for some reason and i'm not sure if i should give them some time to grow on me or if i should tell them to take them out what's a part got drunk that's weird i feel like that was he's he had sex with that girl well and then he was like the best way to pretend that we didn't have sex is let me pierce your ear because then that could be the story of how i know you what's more intimate having sex with somebody inside of them or having a girl put something inside of you his ears got pegged by this girl yes that's weird you got a weird boyfriend uh i've been at awl since the marlins man foul ball guy episode whatever happened

to the saturday let's get weird podcast what made you guys do the first place people forget i don't even i think we've told on this podcast but i was before we moved to new york i was living at home and marlins man was so upset after that podcast like i remember being on the speaker phone my mom like laughing but he was like calling me like threatened to like sue me and like do all like he he was very upset like initially after that episode came out yes yes i don't know why i don't know we three times a week is is a good amount of podcasts i think doing the fourth we're like wait what are we doing here also we don't want to be that there's some podcasts out there that like chop up their show 17 different ways so that they can say they're number one yeah and on saturdays

nobody the average listenership would go down but total downloads would go up right and we just like what are we doing we just rather be like every time we put out heat a million people listen to it goes platinum every time with no features right that's what we do on mondays we're not trying to put out a bunch of fucking uh b side singles and then like be like oh but it's actually 2200 million no no we put out platinum every time bangers no matter what that's just a fact part of my take is number one oh you think i mean we should you know what though we don't brag because you know what when you get to a point where you just don't have to brag because the people know the real people know get ahead stay don't let everyone else try to

tell you some other story just know what it is and how it's been for basically five years that's our speech that's like it feels good to say that every night it's like wild wings being like we sell the most food yeah in america because we sell 48 chicken wings to every single table it does feel good every now and then to just be like guess what guys this is what actually is the reality all right uh this and with this little fun fun little billy anecdote over the summer my boyfriend dm billy asking to race and billy basically called him a scrawny bitch parentheses which he is don't read this out loud and parentheses he hasn't listened to pmt since how do i get him to start listening again no wait billy called him a scrawny bitch billy's off will we billy's off the show we

kick billy off the show after realizing i use profanity like that i was gonna say i'm people the same thing really i was good i would love to see that uh i was gonna say something there that was actually going to cost us billy so i'm not gonna say what i was gonna say was if billy football costs us one listener then we will we will fire billy football but then i'll get a bunch of tweets yeah i'll be in like i haven't listened since billy's on just like well how do you know i'm not gonna do that no because then people are telling on oh true god let us know if you no longer listen because it's a billy football please right okay perfect got him got him mousetrap all right nine i gotta put some balls back in this thing so someone doing animal 18 okay

animal fact uh looking it up right now animal fact dogs left under the care of pft commenter put on 80 pounds of body weight per week elephants can't jump so this is how they navigate through terrain all that's a video yes why'd you shave today all right so with your look no no no it's a good i mean i know it's a it's a good question and spare because i didn't mean to shave this much today i was gonna say it got out i got i got out of hand so i was trying to i was trying to trim myself up a little bit because the goatee at the bottom was a little long the patches on the sides were a little wavy tried to shave it it eventually just started to look like only the goatee by accident and you're doing goatee week and so i didn't want to come into the office being like look at me

i'm in goatee week too but i didn't want to do that so i'm like fuck it let's just go scorched earth and now i look like i'm a six-year-old yeah i mean it's i mean it would be the same if i shaved everyone would be like why'd you shave yeah well i mean i think you're probably more well known for your facial hair than i am yeah yes hank too hank doesn't shave yeah when hank shaves it is no it is should we do a shaved shaved shaved face fuck no like straight up shaved face yeah we should do bald face bald week we should and just be like these are the guys you actually are listening to i didn't i just like grew my beard out because i was like lazy and then i shaved it and then i shaved it thinking it was something i could like yeah i was like oh i'll just shave my face

and then people were like horrified yeah and i realized i could never i threw up it was like teddy bridge waters knee yeah i could never i'm just a beard guy now reports coming from barcel hq everyone keeps throwing up it was terrible i walked in the office and well hey oh my god there's nothing worse what then changing your look in any way and having everyone just have a like a really really strong reaction even if it's good it's a nice way to like why'd you shave the beard remember when chaps i mean i that was that was actually on the eve of clenching a world series no less that was a horrifying horrifying yeah a couple weeks he looked like an infected toe oh my god i actually uh i don't even we might have to cut that part because people are gonna listen

to that and then remember don't what he looked like don't remember that all right here we go numbers eight nine 100 18 the extinct colossus penguin stood as tall as the bronze james 99 99 99 oh man if it's 100 eight 59 can we add 59 before London flutcher stand by first timer rare love you guys all right see you guys friday without you it's a blue talking away hey

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