Pardon My Take - Michael Rubin, Draymond Gets Suspended, NHL Playoffs And PFT Talks About His Dad

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

We start the show with a serious/sad note from PFT. (00:00:00-00:09:52) NBA playoffs, draymond gets suspended, the Beam is the best, Celtics/Sixers are on a collision course and the Suns remembered they have to win basketball games in the playoffs (00:09:52-00:47:33). We talk a little playoff hockey and the Leafs have duped us again (00:47:33-00:52:44). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the great popcorn airline debate and more (00:52:44-01:26:32). Fanatics Founder/CEO Michael Rubin joins the show to talk business, why he sold his portion of the Sixers, sneaking into his Hamptons party and tons more (01:26:32-02:11:02). We finish with FAQ's and the lottery ball machine (02:11:02-02:33:29).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Oh, no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we'll take it higher. It's part of my take, presented by Barstool Sports. Some part of my take today is Wednesday, April 19th. We are on Zoom today and PFT. Yeah, so we're on Zoom right now. I'm down in Virginia. My dad passed away this morning and I wasn't sure what I wanted to do if I wanted to do part of my take today at first.

And I know a lot of you guys at home probably use this show as an escape or to get you through tough times, sometimes and laugh and forget about real issues every now and again. And that's kind of the boat that I found myself in today where I felt like it would be good. We're recording this late at night, been taking care of family stuff all day and I thought it would be a good escape for me and maybe be able to laugh a little bit and chop it up and kind of get away from the real life situation. And I feel the same way that we've heard from a lot of people over the years. I feel the same way now.

So thank you guys for being there for me. I appreciate that. That goes for obviously everybody in the studio on the show. I appreciate you guys being an outlet for this and also everybody at home listening. And I know I've talked about my dad a few times on this show, but he really is the reason why I grew to love sports. You know, let me miss class and stay home from school in the morning sometimes to watch sports center. And most of my childhood memories revolve somehow around playing sports with him, going to sporting events with him or having him prank me into going to a sporting event that wasn't real with him.

It's kind of funny, I was talking with my family today and we were joking around and laughing about some of the funny things that he did over the years. And that story, the April Fool's story got brought up where he got me out of class. And it turns out I didn't even get the real crux of the joke until just today. The real crux of the joke, as I mentioned a couple weeks ago, was there was no game on April 1st that year, April Fool's Day, when he got me out of class to take me to the Orioles game. The real crux of the joke, my brother just told me this today, was the joke was, I should have known that the Orioles didn't have a home opener on April 1st,

and I don't know ball because I'm a casual. So that's what he was driving at, but he was busting my balls when he did that. And he was a funny guy and if anybody knew him, they knew he was the guy who was usually wearing a track suit and usually taking me or my brother to the sporting events. We had the van that was stocked with every sort of sports equipment you could ever hope for growing up. And he really taught me how to love sports and he was a fan of you guys too. He loved you guys and he also loved all the AWL's that he would meet when he'd go out and start chopping up with somebody about sports. If they looked like they were a younger person, he would ask them, like, do you guys listen to part of my take?

And then he would go on to tell them that, oh, PFT is my son and he'd make a new friend and he'd always give me a call and let me know who he met that way. And it meant a lot to him and sports were, like I said, they were a big part of our lives and I owe so much to him. He was a great dude. So going to miss him and yeah, that's pretty much it. The last thing I will say though is I for an I will play John Rom, not a tremendous competitor. I'll make that joke before anybody else does. I forgot. So it's okay.

It's okay. I know some people are going to wonder if it's okay to make that joke. So I'll be the first one to make it. It is okay. He would have thought that was funny. But yeah, so that's where I'm at personally right now. And yeah, I hope you guys will understand if me probably do another Skype show or Zoom show later on this week. Some things might change with the formatting.

But yeah, I appreciate you guys being there for me. So love you guys. Love you PFT. Yeah. Yeah. Love you too, man. I mean, it's, it's, you know, I don't, it's, it's a horrible thing that everyone obviously eventually has to go through.

But I just, you know, I know your dad, we got to meet him a couple times. I know how proud he was of this show. And like, that was just so cool to see because I'm sure, you know, we're very similar. There's probably moments where our parents were like, are they actually going to have a career here? And for him to see it, get to the point where it's gotten. And, you know, when we met him at training camp, he was wearing the track suit. He was proud. And it was, uh, yeah, I mean, it was, it was clear that he was so proud of everything you've done.

And, uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, when you, when you hurt, we hurt. So it's, yeah. It's real life shit sometimes, but, uh, but yeah, I appreciate you guys. And yeah, he was, uh, he was a big fan of, of yours and just, uh, it was really supportive. There were some times when he didn't really understand what a podcast was and whether or not this was going to be, you know, something that I was going to really take seriously.

Um, but he was also like the most supportive person in the world. And he was like, go for it if it makes you happy. And, um, I was really, really lucky to have him as a dad. So, uh, if you're on the fence about calling your dad today, give him a call. Tell him you love him. Um, permission to make another lighthearted joke. Yes. Uh, we can cut it out, but, um, he, he did pass away without ever seeing Hank at the lottery ball.

It's true. That's true. It's true. It's not. It's just a fact. Every day. Just a fact. Every, every day.

Ah, yeah. Honestly. Not cool. Yeah. Oh man. But yeah. PFT. We love you.

You know, we love you. And, uh, it's, it's tough because it definitely is like. We are, we've been doing this for a long time. So we are family. And so whenever, you know, something like this happens to any of us, it's, it's really, really tough. So, but he, he, he, I, I just remember you telling me how proud he was of this show. And it was very clear that picture of him with the track suit was like, I was like,

that's, that's a dad. It was just like my, my son. At the camp, the team you guys rooted for growing up. That's where that was. Yeah. Yeah. We, that was, that was very, a very cool moment. A little behind the scenes when we went to the, I guess it was the football team.

It was a Washington football team at the time. We did a training camp and interviewed Ron Rivera and, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Um, I got my dad in and got to introduce him to Fitzy and, and some of the guys behind the scenes. And that's where we used to go every summer when I was a kid. Me and him would go to, uh, to Redskins training camp. Probably, I don't know, 10, 12 times each year and, and watch the team practice. And, uh, it was very cool to like show him around and to, you know, kind of full circle

moment in a way that way. So, um, yeah, a lot of emotions. I'm going through a lot of different things right now, some up, some down. Um, but it's been, uh, it's good to have you guys around. It's good to have an outlet where hopefully we can, I mean, we've already told some pretty sick jokes today. So, uh, maybe, maybe, I didn't even think about it. I mean, I know how your brain works.

You probably thought of it like 9 30 this morning. You're like, ah, no, I actually, I, when we were talking before the show about something else related to John Ram, I was like, Oh fuck. Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll have something to talk about if, if we ever, if we ever meet the guy. Yeah.

Um, okay. So let's try to make you laugh. Let's try to have some fun. Uh, stop me if you heard this before, but Draymond Green assaulted someone again and he's suspended. So the news just came down. He's suspended for game three, which I actually hate because well, one, I don't think he should have been suspended, but two, now Warriors fans can be like, well, we've never lost a

series when, when Steph Clay and Draymond played the whole series. Okay. So I like and hate that he was suspended at the same time. I don't think he should have been suspended for it because he got, he got his foot grabbed and it wasn't even that hard of a stop. Yeah. He's a big guy and you probably shouldn't step on another man's sternum intentionally, but at the same time, like his foot was being grabbed.

You got to get the guy off you somehow. I think it should have been, it should have been a flagrant. I don't think he should have been suspended, but then I, I love the fact that when he got kicked out of the game, they just let Draymond spend like what felt like 15 minutes on the court, just antagonizing the fans openly. That was an awesome moment. That might have been why he got suspended. Did Shams say exactly why Jake?

Cause like if you were, if you're Adam Silver, that would felt more out of line of what they're trying to preach on like the, you know, player fan interaction, then the actual stomp that credits to Sabonis, I thought he like broke his sternum the way he was acting and then he got up and he was fine. Well, you're just basically acting like he got the, like the, whatever you call it in the EMT thrown into, thrown into his heart. The February later. Yeah.

Yeah. Tomar Hamlin was watching like hell. Yeah. Tomar Hamlin. Draymond Green should attend every youth sporting event in America to make sure that he can revive someone. It might have been the moment when they were zooming in on dream on looking at the crowd and just him going pussy at, at the guy that was flipping.

Yeah. But at the same time, Draymond looked like he was having the time of his life when he was screaming at the crowd. Like he, I think that's good for NBA fan interaction. It's not good when you have Russell Westbrook, just finding somebody backstage and a poor little kid who's eating a slice of ham with his, with his teeth and then going up to his dad and calling his dad a motherfucker. That's bad.

Definitely. But having Draymond just get up in the crowd's face and smiling and screaming at him. I think that's good. That's the good type of fan interaction that you want. He, Draymond is like, he has like Joker energy where he just not, not Jokovic or what's what the fuck? Yo, it's late. Not Yo Kitch, but Joker, like the actual Heath Ledger, like he just wants to see every

like the chaos because that was, there was a moment there where it was like, this is how the mouse, the palace kind of started. If someone, if a fan throws something here, this could get bad. I also loved Jordan Poole's face standing there and he was like, Draymond was going crazy, like whooping it up and Jordan Poole was kind of like laughing along like, haha, like this is actually what it looked like right before I got punched in the face. So I'm just going to be on his side here and be like, Hey, this is cool. This is funny.

Draymond, like good one. He did that. So it was crazy. It was a crazy scene. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is like Draymond Green. So Sobonus did grab his leg. I don't think he should have been suspended.

But if there's one guy who you can be like, Oh, he has a history of just like kicking people in the nuts, stomping on people, punching his teammate in the face. He is the guy. So I don't, you can't, Draymond can't like be like, Oh, I, that was a totally out of character act by me. That was as much in character as you can get for Draymond Green in an NBA basketball game. Yeah. He's gone method.

He's always in care. He's gone method in terms of acting like Draymond Green all the time. Yeah. Jake. Well, you say Jake press release says a suspension was based in part of Green's history of unsportsmanlike acts. So it seems like. Oh yeah.

Yeah. So I don't think he should have been suspended for, for either one of the acts for the antagonizing or for the stomping, but I am a little bit happy that he got suspended because that means that when he comes back in game four, we're going to get full Draymond. He's going to just be nuts on the court. So I'm happy about that. You make a good point. The Warriors fans can be like, Oh, the series doesn't count even though, you know what?

But Kings fans can be like straight up. Here's a, here's a stat in game one, it was 105, 105 with five minutes, 50 seconds left. In this game, it was 95, 95 with five minutes, 50 seconds left. So the Kings have scored the Warriors in the final five, 50 of games one and two by combined 40 to 29. So the Kings have just been better down the stretch. I think that was David Locke that tweeted that out, but they've just been, they've just been better at closing games out.

Here's another stat because it will, Warriors fans will, I think most Warriors fans won't do this, but you know, there'll be the trolls being like, yeah, they, you know, Raptor series, everyone got hurt, you know, the, the calves in 2016, Dramon got suspended. They never lost with those three guys. The craziest part, the craziest stat I saw, this breaks the streak. The Warriors have not been down two O in a series in 27 straight series, 27 straight playoff series. They haven't been down to two O in the first two games in those 27 straight playoff series.

They're like something like 43 and 11 or I might have my math wrong, but it's, no, that's right. 43 and 11, it's crazy. They have been, they never get in this hole and they're in this hole and you're right, PFT, like the way they, the way the Kings have played down the stretch, Kings didn't even play. I think that was the second or third worst shooting night they've had all year. Like they didn't even play that great.

And they beat the Warriors and the Warriors are officially on the rope and this is another one of those like, I don't, I don't put that much stock in regular season in terms of like a team can take load management, all this stuff, but the Warriors sucked on the road all year and they sucked in on the road in the playoffs. Like we, they should have, we should have believed them when they told us they can't play on the road. Also, we should have paid more attention to the beam this year because the beam is intense lighting the beam.

It's an X factor. That is the, that's the rally monkey of these playoffs. Like the beam is fucking sick when they, when they shoot it up into outer space. I don't know how high it goes. I just assume it goes like all the way to the moon, but it's so, it's awesome. I love it. Kings just have good vibes. You saw Deli on the bench almost died last time he played against Steph Curry and he

was coaching the guys up, getting in their ears. They just seem, they're such a fun team. They're young. They're young. They're fun Billy. What are you going to say? Just last thing on the sub-bonus thing. That's a total like soccer move.

Like that's what soccer plays to, you know, but grabbing of the legs on the ground. It's very European. Yeah. Like that's really European. The beam PFT, I read an article about the beam. The owner of the Kings did it. I thought it was going to be some really cool story. Like some little kid was like, Oh, wouldn't it be cool if like a flashlight, there's a

big flashlight. No, unfortunately it's not. They did like a focus group and like hired like a PR firm. But the one cool fact that I saw out of it was they had the owner of the Kings like in this focus group and all this talk about like what they're going to do. Someone pointed out that Virgin Atlantic, the airline, they have those purple lights or it might be blue lights that you walk in and you feel like you're on a VIP like club. And he basically, the owner of the Kings was like, I want that everywhere in the arena.

I want just make purple lights everywhere and they did that and it does look cool. It's smart. It looks fucking cool. If you've ever been on Virgin Atlantic, you know that it's just a relaxing flight from start to finish. It's yeah. Okay. I wish I didn't know that it was a focus group, but I still love the beam.

That's how good it is. It's like it's completely artificial and created out of nowhere by a bunch of suits. But guess what? It still looks like God's bidet when it shoots up into the sky and I'm still all in on the beam. Yeah. And the beam, the first time the beam ever was lit, it was during the day, so it didn't really work.

And the first time it was lit at night, they had like a bunch of calls to like the police and like the radio stations being like, what is going on in the sky right now? There's a huge purple beam. So I'm all in on the beam. The beam is great. The herder, I think started the beam team hashtag. So like, yeah, the Kings are true vibes team. It's I had a, I had a little debate online this morning about bandwagons.

I mean, we're not, we're not Kings fans, but like if you are a Kings fan that has gotten away from the team, get back on the bandwagon, bandwagon to make sports fun. Yeah. This is a fun, this is a fun story. I hope they go deep. I hope they take down the Warriors, even though I have money on the Warriors. That's how fun they are. Like I bet on the Warriors last night, I wasn't that mad because I was like, damn, this Kings

team is so much fun. And these fans look like they're having the best time of their life. Yeah. The best compliment you can get as a team is that people with absolutely no horse in the race are watching every single game that you play and you're like, I fucking wish I was a Kings fan. It'd be so cool to be Kings fan right now. So I hope that said, I hope they don't, I hope they don't blow it.

I really do because I'd like to see them advance. But when Draymond comes back, when Draymond comes back game four, it's going to be, you're going to see he's going to be fully joker fight by that point. One last thing about this game that should be because, you know, Malik Monk and Darren Fox get a lot of talk and sub onus. Davion Mitchell is an awesome defender. He was like doing a very, I mean, Steph, you, you, Steph will always get, you know, his points, but he was awesome.

And I went and I looked it up. He has an incredible nickname. Does anyone know his nickname here? No. His nickname is off night. That's a great nickname for a defense guy. Yeah, it is off night. Yeah.

He's like, when you come play me, it's your off night. I like that a lot. Yeah. As I was just like, damn, that's an awesome nickname. That's a nickname that should get more love off night. I don't know if they're a team of destiny yet, but they're, what's the JV version of the team? I don't know.

Yeah. They're probably not going to win the series. They're a team of fun. They're a team of fun. Here's what's going to unfortunately happen. This is where. Well, no, no, no, Hank. You know, Hank's right.

I am getting caught up in the beam. I'm trapped in the beam right now. Here's what's going to happen. And this is, if you're a Kings fans, skip a minute down the podcast because you don't want to hear this. They are going to beat the Warriors in the series. It's going to be a great story. It's going to be an incredible story.

The first team take down the Warriors. The Lakers are then going to beat them and it's going to be all the bad memories from all the, from that series and everything is going to get brought back up and that's what's going to happen. Like it's perfectly set up for a team to like capture the hearts of America and then the Lakers to basically have us relive the worst moment in Kings history and then just do it again. Yeah. I think we, I think we even called that shot when we had Kirk on the, on the podcast

the other day where like Scott Foster comes in and just hands game six and seven to the Lakers. Yeah. Yeah. It's it. I don't want to happen. By the way, if people haven't picked up the Grizzlies or sorry, the Nuggets, Timber Wolf series will probably be the series we just never talk about because it's going to be like weird timing off nights, that stuff, but the shout out the Nuggets, they killed

the Timber Wolfs. Timber Wolfs, I think, would they score like 85 points? They didn't even, they got smoked. Yeah. My, my Nuggets look great. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

All right. Other games. We should talk about net sixers on Monday night. Max. You won. The nets are not good. The nets, it's funny because the nets are, do you look at them and you're like, that's a team that could really use like one or two stars, like a Kevin Durant or a Kyrie Irvin

because they, they have just some really good role players and Mikhail Bridges is a better than a role player, but they like built the whole plane out of role players and you can see it when you're watching a playoff game and they can't, they struggle to score 90 points. That's a question for you, Max. So we saw a playoff James Harden in game two. Yeah. No, I scored eight points.

My take of playoff James Harden is dead, died last night because he was so, so bad. And I was so bad that just Saturday. And then last night, I mean, he like didn't even belong in the court, but thank God. Coward called them. Max. Yeah. Coward called them a role player with a shoe deal. Yeah.

Yeah. He was bad. He was so bad. It was tough. It was tough. Yeah. No, you're going to win the series. Yeah.

No, the Nets are like knock. They're just like not a good team. I think if the Sixers were playing any other team in the playoffs, they probably lose that game and they're playing any good team in the playoffs. They lose by 30. I also get, I get a little bit worried every time Joel Embiid falls down. He seems like he grimaces hard every time he hits the ground. He's a big dude and he weighs, he's like heavy as shit, but when he falls down and he gets

up every single time you're like, is this guy injured? You have to pause for a second. You guys think they should cancel charges? You're trying to cancel charges? What? I do. Okay. So cancel culture is coming for him.

I don't agree. No. Listen, I talked to Titus about this. I think it was in the national championship game and we came to the conclusion that they should cancel charges if you step in front of a guy and put your hands in front of your nuts. For two reasons. One, it's not a defensive move.

You can't make a defensive play if your hands are covering your balls. And also you should be willing to get hit in the nuts to take a charge. That should be part of the price that you pay. If you want that foul bad enough, you'll stick your boys out there and take a knee to them. Agreed. Um, I just like saying cancel charges because the, my college basketball team is built. The whole house is built on charges. So, uh, people get really mad when I say that, but yeah, cancel charges, fuck charges.

But yeah, the, um, the Sixers did look bad, but a wins a win. Um, quick B ball, Paul update. Uh, he was electric as usual. I think he was three for four. He also honestly read a couple of tweets for, for everyone out there because he had a great dunk. B ball, Paul, we talked about it on Sunday, but he created a Twitter account when he was about, I don't know, 12 years old.

And, uh, so he has like the, he has all these tweets that are from a bygone era where tweet Twitter was just updating whatever's going on in your life. Like I searched it and, and he has a tweet from August, 2013 that just says sore throat. Like that's it. So throat. So he, he's the best, but he had a couple, couple bangers. One was I come watch TV, go outside, come back in, come back in, masturbate 15 minutes to homework, watch TV again and eat.

Tell me if this is not what all boys do. This is a 13 year old B ball, he's just, it's the best. I hate the dentist. The shit is so nasty. What? Watching this Harry Potter movie. What the fuck is Slytherin? This one actually is suspect.

This is actually the first time I was like, what's going on with people, Paul? He just had one that said up all night watching George Lopez. Oh, George Lopez is funny. Oh, but he, he, he, but it, it doesn't sound like a, like, it doesn't sound like a, a screen name from like a lawn order episode where they're like, they're going through like a high school kids like social media profile and they're like, B ball, Paul. Yeah. The star of the basketball team.

This is, these are all his thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we will get them. We will get them on the show at some point. I do. I would like to ask him if he just went to DePaul because he's like, they named a school after me because I wouldn't be surprised because that would make perfect sense.

One last one. He said, just had some good ass spaghetti. Hope I spelled it right. Like that's just people. Did he spell it right? Yeah. He spelled it right. It's hard word to spell.

That's what I was just saying. That's, that's honestly pretty good. And he was 13 years old and spelled spaghetti correctly. He did. Um, yeah, we're going to hopefully do a merch deal with B ball, Paul. I did buy a sweatshirt from him today, um, which means I literally Venmoed him $100 and sent him my address. That's how he's doing it.

He's, he's selling his sweatshirts. He tweeted before the playoffs hit me up if you want 100 bucks and people max said that people like infill your seeing him go to the UPS store, like in mailing the sweatshirts. I love that. Can we just say that he's selling them out of the back of his car? Pretty much. Yeah. I like that.

I respect the grind. It's also me a little concerning after a win, a playoff win, like, or like a day off that he's just, he's filling orders on a day off. I don't know. Maybe. No, I respect, I respect the hell out of that. You got to make money. He's a, what's his contract?

How much does B ball? Paul. He's making like three, three. No, it's, it's like three years, four million. Total. It's not that much. Total. Hey, not that much when James Farron's your teammate and he's taking out to strip clubs

every night. That one goes fast. People, Paul, like if people, Paul probably wishes he could treat right now, like that feeling when you're, when you're $200 million teammate keeps making you drop, drop racks at the strip club on a Wednesday. Yeah. James Farron's like, I'll cover half the room and money, B ball, Paul, you cover the other half and he's like, uh, one's okay.

Um, all right. Next game, Hank, your Celtics. That's that's serious. Yeah. So I was officially obviously, you know, beforehand I was talking to folks on the Hawks, folks on the Hawks tonight. I was really just starting to do some, uh, thinking and the only question really is, is there any chance the heat when, and if they do win, does that mean we put the heat?

I don't think they recede. They don't. Okay. So that was the question that questions answered in that case, you could have gone for the show. Save for the show. I was walking, walking you through my, my thoughts. And now, so I'm just ready to destroy Philly.

They're B ball, Paul. I can't wait for you to like, wait, wait, wait, not going to play. He's going to score zero points. So they're probably going to win in a sweep or five. Our best friend, Blake Griffin, who actually you should be rooting for is going to play the same minutes as B ball, Paul, and absolutely fuck him up. And then what are you going to do? All right.

So, all right. So that's, that's a compelling point that Hank just made. Like we're, if, if we're going to be B ball, Paul guys, we, we have to be prepared for the fact that he's going to be going one-on-one against our guy Blake, but I've, I've thought about this. I, this is sick that like it popped in my head while I was just, I don't even know what I was doing. I was driving somewhere and it popped in my head and I was like, how do we get around

this plate Griffin issue? Cause we look, I like play Griffin more than I like Hank. So like, how do we, how do we figure this out? So well, here's, here's where I've come to the conclusion. I think we got to root against Hank, but then if the Celtics win the title, we just flip it and we're like, we're so happy for our friend Blake. We always were rooting for him. Yeah.

Well, I'm rooting for Josh Harris. I don't really care about the 76ers, but I can't, I don't think I can root against Blake. If Blake's getting, if he's getting over, what's the cutoff? I have to have like a minute's limit because if he's playing any sort of significant minutes whatsoever, I can't root against him. But if he's playing like five minutes a game, then I can't, then I can't absolutely root against the Celtics. You know what I'm going to do?

I'm just going to root for Blake and I'm going to root for B ball Paul because I, I watched the whole Sixers game last night. I became B ball Paul tracker on online. I did not care if the Sixers won or lost. I do not care at all about the Philadelphia 76ers. I only care about B ball Paul. That's the same as Blake Griffin. Like I'm just going to be a Blake Griffith.

Here's a question in big hat. Question to a B ball, Paul, we should, I'm trying to make money for you, Hank. We should do a B ball, Paul and Blake Griffin combined total points over. Oh, I thought you were going to say like a T shirt where it's like, it's like Godzilla versus T, right? What is it? Godzilla. Yeah.

King Kong versus Godzilla. It's B ball, Paul, Blake Griffin, the battle for the East definitely make those shirts. Yeah. That would fucking rock. The killer bees. Yeah. Yeah. They're just like on the, yeah.

It's like both of them are just so big. They're on the East coast and they're just, they're basically like trying to dunk over each other. We have two hoops. Yeah. So they're both trying to dunk at the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

Question to a game seven TD garden, Joe and beads fouls out Robert Williams fouls out Al Horford fouls out. Yeah. I'm rooting for Blake. I'm rooting for Blake. That's a no break. If Blake plays, I'm rooting for him. And if he does well, that means that's fine.

I look, I got no, I got no hate Hank. I think the cells is the best team in the playoffs right now. Like I dude, Derek White is like, Derek White is really good. So is Brogdon. Brogdon's and Robert Williams is playing like he's healthy. Like he was playing healthy active. It's always scary with him because it's like, you really, when you see him play healthy, it's so exciting.

He's healthy. We will win the championship, but he's like, he's just so inconsistent and he gets, you know, he's, he's, he's a little fragile. So it's worrisome, but if you stay as healthy, good things are coming. And I'm, I'm, I'm staying consistent with my six or Celtics. I just want maximum pain no matter what. And it's most likely going to happen to Max because I just want the show. I want, I want the show to have maximum amount of pain.

I want like three, oh, to a reverse sweep. I want like a game seven with a controversial ending. I want as much pain. I don't care who gives me the pain. I want, I want to, I want to drink, I want to drink your milkshake pain. I've also thought about, I spent, you know, some significant time thinking again, like I've moved on from this series. I'm thinking about the Sixers.

I'm ready to talk about the bet and I've, I've come to my, uh, my terms. Okay. So this is six, this is you versus Max six or Celtics. What are your full beard? No mustache. Okay. Cause we, PFT were debating, uh, earlier in the show or early in the day, by the way, we did FAQs back in the studio because PFT, we didn't want to have them have to do like

a two hour zoom tonight. Um, so we were debating whether they get their mustache. I was saying they should get just this, they get to keep just this. Max wants the mustache and I think Max would probably look decent with the mustache. No, I, you don't understand how bad my chins are going to look. Under there. Like the fact that you think this is going to distract that is disgusting. That's my point.

I think, you know how it is, big, I think it's, it's going to be, I think the soul patch is the right move. Hank and I were actually talking about the soul patch the other night. It's going to be soul patch summer. I think, I think soul patches are making a huge comeback. I think one of you guys should lead the charge on that, shave everything, but that little patch right below your little, yeah, I'm fine with that. But yeah, no, the conclusion I came to is no mustache.

Okay. It should be soul patch. Not to mention that, whatever. Not to mention we should, we could talk about it when, when we actually get here, but it should be like an escalator agreement. Like if, if one team gets swept, you have to shave your face for three months. Like that should, that should absolutely be part of it. No, no, no.

That's bullshit. No, no, we're not doing, we're not doing, we're not doing. No, no, no, no, no. Alright. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. If you get the, I gotta, I gotta be able to talk to chicks. No, that's facts.

Yeah. Like I'm down for a sweep clause and we're definitely in the favors there, but also like I can't worst case scenario, that can't happen. Summertime shy and Hanks got no beard. If you get swept, you need the wound room. No, I am not down for a sweep. Scared. Maybe a tattoo, a tattoo.

Yes. For the sweep. Full bald head. Just, just bick everything. No, see, like this is bullshit. Like, there's more things that are going against me. As an impartial bystander, Max is coming off scared. Yeah, he is.

He's coming off real scared. Why wouldn't I? Those are the best tests to make. You gotta have a little faith in your team. Every team between Celtics and Sixers, like, where would I have confidence in? What do you mean, the last game of the year, Jolene B had like 60 points. One MVP, that was sick, right? Oh man.

Alright, we'll table it till it is official and then we'll get the whole thing. Either way, the Celtics, I mean, are so much better than the Hawks. Derek White is like, I think he probably suffers a little from being on a team with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum in terms of the pub, like the general public realizing how good he's playing. He's playing out of his mind. He's, he's, he had MVP chance tonight. Yeah, and it was crazy.

Defense is really good. I mean, they just gotta say healthy, they just gotta say healthy. It's that we're in, we're in Celtics and Bruins are like, just stay fucking healthy. Trey Young, there was a few possessions where he just basically spent the entire shot clock trying to get the correct pick and roll and the Celtics were just switching perfectly or presweet. Like they were just doing everything and Trey Young was in a blunder. He didn't know what to do.

So, you know, that's gonna be next week, James Harden. Just so you know, the Celtics won by 13 tonight and the Sixers won by 12 last night and we're crowning the Celtics as like the fucking champions of the world. Well, not all wins are created equal, Max. I mean, but like, let's let's call it spade to spade here. All right, so let's do a sweep that then. So if you're that confident, then why don't you agree to the term? No, no, no, I just want to acknowledge what's going on in this show.

You're scared. No, this is what Max does. Max gets scared and then he retreats into his little hole and then and then he thinks to himself, oh, fuck, they got me good. They got me down in my hole so bad right now. I gotta fight. And then he lashes out and he makes no sense when he lashed up. He's like, I just got to show some aggression to prove that I'm not

retreating my cubby right now. I got to he got to he just goes and it goes home and just looks at his mirror and he's like, don't let him do that to you again. You're if you're fucking really tough. And he's like, I'll show them. I'll show them. And then he's like, you guys are pussies. I mean, what about me?

I don't know, but we're just going like the Sixers are playing the Nets. Like the Hawks fucking suck. The Sixers beat the Hawks. The Friday before the playoff started without their top six guys. Like, let's not talk about how good the Celtics looks against the fucking Hawks. OK, so make a bet. I can't wait for this series. This is going to be so awesome.

All right. Next, Nick's calves calves, Womped Womped the Nets. First time the Cavs won a playoff game without LeBron James since 1998. Who is the leading scorer for the Cavs in that game? So, Jurnus, Mark Price, Sean Camp. Wow. Wow. Yeah. RIP 1998. Sean Kemp was the leading scorer in that game.

That game also had on the bench, Fred Hoiberg on the Pacers and Scott Brooks on the Cavs. So future coaches, a lot of legends in that game. So Jurnus was in that game. I completely memory hold Sean Kemp on the Cavs had no idea that. And also, I do know that Sean Kemp is not dead, but he did get it. They they arrested Sean Kemp or the Rainmans in prison.

Also, I was just like an absolute bum on the sidelines tonight. They cut to him. I was standing up. I was like, oh, that's the coach. My like, he's realizing he made like the dumbest decision ever because he joined the Hawks midseason when he probably could have had any job he wanted this offseason. So but yeah, the the only reason I remember the Sean Kemp

Cavs is I love those jerseys. You know, the the weird jersey, like they were the late 90s. Like, remember the pistons did it? So yeah, so many teams. They're just weird, funky ass jerseys that looked bad at in the time, but like have aged kind of well. Grizzlies were another one of those teams Grizzlies love love the Vancouver Grizzlies big time, big time.

Okay, so yeah, this game, I have two, two thoughts on this game. One is it was nice to see the Cavs make an adjustment where they're like, hey, Donovan Mitchell, you don't have to shoot every time. And Darius Garland went off instead. And so to carries the vert and Donovan Mitchell actually had 13 assists. So it was like, hey, this is actually, it might not be a good idea to have Donovan Mitchell shoot 35 times and Darius Garland not attempt to field goal in the fourth quarter.

So that was a good adjustment. The second thing Tom Thibodeau is the most stubborn man in the world because he had Julius Randall in this game down 20 with two minutes left. You would think the guy who had Derek Rose as the one seed. And they were all 12 on the Sixers with a minute left when Derek Rose towards ACL, which would have happened anyway. I'm not going to pretend that wouldn't have happened anyway. You'd think he would learn and I think Julius Randall is okay.

But it's like, how can he keep doing this? How does he keep getting away with this? It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, that Tibbs is who he is. He's not he's not going to change ever. I don't want him to change, which because Tibbs is he's the perfect coach for like some team that is like middling, like teetering on the edge

of being a solid, good team. If you get Tom Thibodeau on your on coaching your team, then you know that you're going to be like, you're going to be great going into the playoffs. You're going to be like, yes, we can do this. We've got Tibbs, great defensive coach, and then it's not going to work. And then he's going to do it again somewhere else. He's just a very solid coach, but it's he's a very, very solid coach. But the the playing of players late in blowouts and also, I mean, he he runs

the he runs every player in the ground. But it was just nuts. Like Julius Randall, I think he took a very hard fall off a block off an attempted block on a breakaway. And there was a moment where it was like he came down so hard on his tailbone. He's going to be off the rest of the playoffs. They were down 20. It was two minutes left.

It was like, even the announcers, Reggie Miller was like, this is insane that he's doing this. It would I've lived it. It would be if you're a next fan, you have every right to be upset and be like, dude, if you can't come back in the game, just fucking put your best players on the bench. Crazy. All right. Last one, the Suns are still alive. I might have prematurely texted Brasillo when it looked like the Clippers

were going to like in the second quarter, the Clippers look like they were cruising. I just texted them, do the Suns still have COVID? That was a mistake. But yeah, the Suns, what we thought the Suns were showed. They showed up with like two minutes left in the second quarter and then the entire second half. Yeah, this was this was a legacy matchup between Chris Paul and Scott Foster. And all the stats were going out there.

We may have passed around some fake stats about Scott Foster last year. But all the signs were pointing to like the the fixes in this is going to be Clippers game and credit to credit to the Suns. I'm looking at the box score right now. Westbrook was good. And so Westbrook was why was great. Why is literally if they had a if they did a trial trying to prosecute load management, the defense would call Kauai Leonard

as their lead witness or their their their lead like testimony. Because he is he is the read like what load management works for Kauai Leonard. Well, yeah, but he was also like a player for the finals MVP. Like he's just that guy. No, but he was doing he was doing load management before he was a finals MVP. That's the whole thing like his load. He doesn't get load management. Kauai Leonard gets system rights.

He just upgrades the new operating. It works for him. Like load management. If you if you were trying to say, what is load management? Why would you do load management? You would just point to Kauai and be like this guy. Who barely plays the regular season. Then when he plays the playoffs is incredible.

That's what and I rest my case. Yeah. Well, you say give us your thoughts because I know obviously you didn't watch but your thoughts on the box score. Just my thoughts on the box score is looking at it real quick. And I see that Chris Paul actually didn't play that well tonight. No, he's he's so I retract that washed. Deondre Aydin's back.

It sounds like he's fully bought in and he's going to be committed to playing hard every single minute that he's in every single game and he's all in on the Sun's team and he's bought into Monty Williams and the system that they're trying to run in Phoenix. So Deondre Aydin is officially back. I expect that to continue well into the future. Kevin Durant sucked tonight. He had 25 points only and then Devin Booker's beast and Tori Craig.

It's also for some reason like he was awesome in game one. He's awesome tonight again. As far as as far as Westbrook goes, we we did say like, oh, my God, he's by far the worst player on the court with about what five minutes left in game one. When he was demanding the ball. Yeah, his teammates just wouldn't pass the ball to him. Something happened to Westbrook. I think making maybe making a good defensive play at the end of the game,

like and also getting into a fight afterwards with a fan like he loves to feel hated. Oh, that was a half time. That's the best part. It was a half time. You can't be doing it. You can't be doing that. Also Westbrook, you're you're a good looking guy. You're in pretty good shape.

I don't think you need to be going around with your shirt like surgically taped to your nipples at all point, right? Like we don't we don't have to. You don't have to be doing Ezekiel Elliott everywhere. Yeah, I think he was. I think he was pulling his jersey back on coming out of the locker room. I guess apparently that was a COVID cut through. So when there weren't fans, it's like 20 seconds to go from the visiting

locker room to the court, wind horse had the whole breakdown. And if you go the long way, it's like two minutes. So players still use the COVID, you know, when there were no fans in the entire building, they use the COVID cut through. But now they're fans and those fans will probably say, hey, Westbrook. And then you'll lose your mind and yell in front of the little kid. Yeah, it was it was a very, very funny video. And that dude looked that dude looked like he was ready to use about it.

He didn't back down at all. Like I can recognize a guy that's been in a few scraps of his life. That guy, I'm not saying he's done time in prison, but he knows how to handle himself at 2 32 30 a.m. in Scottsdale and Westbrook. I mean, game one, he was three for 19, but he was making a shit load of defensive plays, rebounds, and there is something he said for a guy who's like, I'm just going to keep trying to force it and like make things happen. And he hit those free throws at the end, too.

Like he just makes things happen, even if he's going to shoot three for 19. I'm sure he's going to be very consistent with this throughout the rest of this playoff series, too. He's back, okay. Officially by this, by the stat sheet, Russ Russell Westbrook, officially back. I want to throw one last thing at you, PFT. And then we can talk a little hockey in the new hot seat, cool throne. It popped in my head when I was watching Cavs Nix tonight and I tweeted out

who are the top players that you know, like, if you know, deep down they're retired, but if they were on the court, you wouldn't even blank. You'd be like, Oh yeah, no, they're still playing because I was watching the Cavs game and I was like, is Corvair still out there? And then I looked it up and he retired like three years ago. And I, but if he's an executive, if he hit a three, I would have been like, Oh yeah, Corvair, he's still playing. Let's see.

Mello always. I have some good ones that people like people responded with, too. But yeah, go ahead. Paul Pierce. Okay. I could see him playing. It's, it's, it's, it's basically the guy who you didn't, you don't really remember retiring because he never really, you know what I mean?

Like someone, someone throughout Rondo, Rondo, if Rondo was in a playoff series right now, you would not blink. You'd be like, yeah, of course. The other ones, there was a couple of football ones. Tori Smith was a good football one. Tori Smith was just catching a touchdown week one. And then someone aptly said, I fully expect Adrian Peterson to be on the Colts next year, which makes so much sense.

Like I get to see it in my head and backing up Jonathan Taylor and just being like, fuck this. Why aren't I getting my carries? Yeah. I mean, there are a bunch of guys in the NFL that are like, Oh, I thought that guy retired like five seasons ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Like every, every year, Matt Moore. Yeah. Yeah. When he would play it's like, I thought that guy, that guy's been retired since 2012. Yeah. Mercedes Lewis, but it's the reverse. The guys who you, you think like Boris DL and Leandro Barbosa were two

that were thrown out there. And I think those two, like if you saw, if you saw Boris DL's fat ass just running down the court in this Sun's Clippers series down either team, you wouldn't, you wouldn't be like, Hey, what's going on here? Yeah. Big Z might be that way too. Yes. Yeah.

Or a Bears out. Bears out definitely could be in a series. Um, all right. Should we talk a little hockey? Yeah. Let's do it. The Leafs fucking suck. Yeah, I'm, you know what?

The Leafs are on my list now. They're, they've made, they've made the Chargers list. Oh, the one game. So the C words, you know what, did you watch the game? This is, this is one of those classic events where I think I'm able to outsmart decades of incompetence. Like the same exact thing happened last year. When I did in the playoffs, I did the Leafs last year.

So you're just, yeah. No, I did. I did too. I did the Leafs last year too. Um, I think that I'm, I'm like one year ahead. I can predict when the market is going to shift entirely. I can time the market. And, uh, this is just a good reminder to me that we can't.

The market times us. We don't. Yeah. I feel similar about what happened with the Oilers on, uh, late Monday night into Tuesday, because they were up three, one, then they were up three, two with like 20 seconds left. They losing overtime. The place was rocking.

And they scored. They got a fake going over time. Like it seemed like it was over for a second. Like I called back. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah. Mm hmm. The whole thing is just like, I, I can't do this with the Oilers.

They, they have to win game two. I'm trying to think, I mean, the Bruins look incredible. Um, that we did Islanders minute with memes before FAQs. He's talked himself into them not being, they're, they're okay. They're fine. Um, but playoff hockey is back and say it's awesome to watch. Like it's Hank and I were talking like this is the best one of the best times year because you just hockey is just so fucking intense.

And there's game after game after game. It is great. I, you do get a little bit of FOMO when your team's not in playoff hockey, but also there's something magical about overtime playoff hockey when you don't have a dog in the fight, when it's somebody else that's living and dying with every single pass, every single turnover, every single, uh, like close off sides. It, that sucks. If you overtime hockey, it is the absolute best if your team's not in it.

And overtime or in regular playoff hockey is the worst if your team isn't actively in it. Now I still like it. I still watch it, but every time I'm watching, like if it's, if it's the Oilers Kings playing, I'm just thinking to myself, man, this would be so cool. If the capitals evolve some big time, big time. Yeah. I mean, it was a great first two nights of playoff hockey because we had two overtime games on Monday.

Hank, how's your overtime? Hank bet every over every game to go into overtime basketball and hockey. Yeah, a little, yeah. I mean, I guess we'll give the hot tip out to the people too. I'm going to do this every single night of the first round until both first rounds are over. Well, and here's where I fucked up. I applied it to basketball and hockey, but in basketball, they don't have an

offering of like the game to go into overtime. I did fourth quarter draw, but that just means that means the four teams just had to score the same amount of points in the fourth quarter. So thankfully, thankfully there was no overtime in basketball because I would have been catastrophic. And if they're, if they're, we can't figure it out in the sports book, I'm just going to do hockey, but I will be doing it's round Robin. So you just bet every game to go to overtime round Robin.

So if two games go to overtime, that's a big winner. That's, that's the thinking. Now, um, you guys, I'm, I'm not a numbers guy, Hank. I know you're, uh, you've become a numbers guy recently. Maybe you can help me with this math here. How many minutes were played in the King's Oilers game? Because there's, there's 60, 60 minutes in the first three periods. And then how many minutes in overtime?

Four minutes. No. They were like, yeah, so there are four minutes this overtime. So we'll, we'll just say 65 minutes were played. Uh, how many minutes do you think Conor McDavid was on the ice? Well, 28. Conor McDavid was on the ice for 25 minutes. Disgusting, pathetic.

Disgusting. Fraud. Disgusting. A lot of people are saying fraud. Uh, Conor McDavid is playing the same amount. I'm on a minutes as I'm going to just find an analogy. People Paul, people Paul, maybe a little less. I didn't want to throw him under the bus there.

Um, Danny Green, who is part of that list of guys that you can't believe you're still playing or OB Toppin for the Knicks. Oh, uh, Jeff Green, I assumed has retired now. He's playing off season for the last five years, but he's playing. He's on the nuggets, right? Yes. Yes. My nuggets.

Yeah, let's go. He's probably still playing in the NBA. He's, he's never always been sneaky young. He'll be playing until he's 65. I love the sneaky young guys. We were, I can't remember what I was talking about today because, uh, Oh, Alan Robinson got traded to the Steelers or will get traded the Steelers. And, uh, the, I, we've talked about this on the show before, but Brandon Cook's

being 29 still is crazy. Cause he's been on like a million teams, but yeah, the sneaky young guys, they sneak up on you. Um, okay. Should we do hot seat, cool throne? It is brought to you by us at the Barstool sports book. Today's show is brought to you by the Barstool sports book, the one and only sports book, a show and Barstool sports.

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All I. Okay. Use golf facts. Yeah. So she, she, it was always kind of known that she was used golf facts. Just a burner account, always tweeting pro Patrick Reed stuff. Talked about her a bunch on the show, but it was never confirmed. A guy that works for Nolan Uptron tweeted a picture saying he was sent

a picture of Patrick Reed at a game, made a joke about how, because Patrick Reed, his wife went to Fenway. The PGA tour gave them tickets. This was like six years ago. PGA tour gave them tickets. Patrick Reed, his wife complained about the free tickets they got and said they had to upgrade themselves and were like bitching at the PGA tour. And so the no laying up guy made a joke in reference to that saying use

golf facts didn't attend due to the quality of the seats. And she replied from the use golf facts account, a picture of where her seats were with her sitting with them, like Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed and the guy. So confirmed confirmed. Justine, right? Wow. My favorite part about about the two of them is, is she's his caddy sometimes

because he alienates caddies so quickly that she has to fill in. He doesn't have any friends. Twitter kind of so, so, so funny. Just, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's probably the last, I don't know if burners, I don't know if they're going to be a thing forever. I guess people, you know, are always doing them, but it's one of the last great, one of the last great burners. It really is.

It is like, it's a hall of fame. First ballot hall of fame burner. Cause she got exposed years ago and keeps using it. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. I love it. And everyone knows that burner.

What'd you say? PFC married a burner, right? You have like, oh yeah, yeah, I had a burner. Yeah. Burners are awesome. Burner life is the shit. I was just replying to tweets left and right. Nobody knew it was me.

Just getting all these takes off. They're too hot for podcasts. Yeah. I had a burner person, young sound Bob. It is fun to just pop on and just like stir some shit up and then just walk away. I get it. What Kevin Durant does.

Uh, all right, your cool throne. Uh, my cool throne, I guess it's AI. I probably should put this on the hot seat, but I watched the 60 minutes AI thing and I'm fully convinced I figured I should just get it on record that probably within like a month, AI is going to build robots, take over the world and we're all going to die. Like I'm, I'm not to be like overly dramatic or anything, but. I think AI, like, I think it's just a matter of time and it's been real.

Yeah. Well, what did I say? Like, like, yeah, no, I'm, I'm now, I'm Billy called this. Billy was the first person to predict that AI was going to take over technology and then dominate the world credit, must credit Billy. We should all be Luddites. I had that same thought when I saw iRobot, but I didn't say it out loud. So Billy gets credit.

Well, you remember, you remember the old movies and now it's like, it's like actually happening. Yeah, but I mean, all movies end up being true. Same private Ryan. Mm hmm. That happened with JFK. Exactly. Gone in 60, gone or gone in 60 seconds.

With Nick, five. Yeah. All these things happened. Uh, it was, um, remember that thought experiment that we talked about in this show, Rocco's basilisk, which is that, uh, at some point AI is going to take over human civilization and it'll become so smart that it'll be able to go back in time and figure out which human beings helped AI get developed and which ones were anti AI back in time and punish you.

Yeah. So for the record, I fuck, I, I for one, welcome our new software overlords. I have a poster of AI in, in, in my bedroom. Always. Yeah. When I, when I was 13, it was play basketball, go outside, come inside, jack off to AI, go outside, eat that. What boys do that?

That's what boys do. I hate AI. So if I look bad on the internet, it's because they went back in time and made me look, oh man. Yeah. That's, that's what AI. Wow. This thing's really good.

I'm anti AI. It's what, this is actually, we recorded this 20 years ago. AI is just producing the podcast. So my theory is that, that Elon Musk, he's got the neural link implant in his brain right now. So he's part AI. I think that so many people distrust Elon Musk, that he's purposely going on the record warning people about AI.

So people would be like, Oh, if Elon cares about, it's probably not that big of a problem. And then making AI actually exists because so many people are like, fuck you. Jake, remind us to do a takey for two online person of the year, because Elon's definitely in the running. He said in an interview he did in the past, he's doing interviews everywhere, but he said that something about if he saw what come on the show, open on the show. Elon, uh, he, yes, absolutely.

We'll interview you on Musk. He, and we'll just basically be like, why aren't you on a sports team, dude? Why'd you take away my check mark? Yeah. Well, I'm going to get to that. I don't, I don't got one. Uh, he, he said that aliens don't exist because he would be the one person who would know.

And if he, if he knew that aliens existed, he would tweet out the proof because it would get so many likes. That's probably how you know that Elon doesn't know. Yeah. But I mean, he, he should, he really needs some friends, like some actual, some friends that, that are real solid dudes that'll bust his balls. Give him the packers and just give them, give them some. Yeah.

You do need a sports team. Be cool. Eli, just, or Elon, just play. It's fucking annoying seeing him, seeing him do this when he could be spending his money on all the fun. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Um, all right.

Your hot seat, PFT. Uh, my hot seat is popcorn. Yes. But popcorn on the hot seat. I figured somebody was going to talk about this. So, um, took over the internet. This is also like a maybe just log off moment. Uh, but yesterday the internet was filled with debate on, uh, Blue Jays pitcher

Anthony Bass. So his wife took a flight on United Airlines and had a two year old and a five year old and they were served popcorn on the flight. And then Anthony Bass tweeted at the airline complaining because the flight attendant made his, uh, 25 week. This is my big problem with it. How pregnant was his wife? 20.

Okay. Say, okay. So I have, I've already said this take. So if I'm going to get crucified, I'll get crucified. I, I, I live with a pregnant woman. Pregnancy is very difficult for women. It's crazy. I'm a pussy.

I would never be able to do it. 22 weeks is not that pregnant. It's pregnant. It's about like four and a half, five months. So there's a, there's a belly, but it's not like when you see an eight month pregnant woman, eight, you know, eight month pregnant woman. It's like they are going through hell to like even get around. Right.

So my, my biggest problem with this was that he said 22 weeks and then I had to sit down and break down how pregnant that was my brain by doing math. That's what pissed me off. Just say months. If you had said months, I would have been like, okay, that's, you're probably sure that I'm purpose though. I would have been like, you're probably showing a little bit, but you're also able to get around.

Okay. And there's a good chance that the flight attendant didn't even know that she was pregnant if she's only like what four and a half months confused again, four and a half months pregnant. So just be normal pregnant people. I'm begging you be just talk to me. Yes, I don't get weeks, four and a half months. If he tweeted four and a half months, he would have gone.

I mean, he already got roasted. Like the guy, there's so many layers to how stupid he is. One is you're never going to win tweeting that to you have a seven 11 ERA. You just opened the floodgate. Like if you had a one nine ERA, you can tweet that and just dunk on people. He just got obliterated and three. Listen, everyone's got a pair of their own kids. One of his kids is five years old.

My son's about to be four. He would be picking up that popcorn if I told like you, the kid can pick up the popcorn if that's the deal. Yeah. And I do think the flight attendant was probably being a dick that also. So we, the other part of the equation is don't know is, is the actual conversation that happened between the flight attendant and the wife. We're hearing this from Anthony Bass, but I don't know if the flight

attendant was like yelling at his wife, like get on your hands and knees and pick that shit up before you get off this fucking plane. Or if she was just like, hey, can you pick up this popcorn that my child spilled on the flood? It was like, no, I can't. You pick it up. Like, who knows where the truth is? It's probably somewhere in the middle.

But for him to go on this rampage and then to end it by saying like, and I'm dealing with I'm dealing with this flight attendant privately with United Airlines, implying that you're going to get this person fired, you're never going to win that battle on the internet, because then then all of a sudden everybody's a flight attendant or people deputize themselves as speaking for this entire service industry. If they're like a waiter or a waitress and they're like, I see how you're talking to this flight attendant.

Let me tell you, it's not that easy. And so of course, everyone's just going to jump on you and just lay into you for this take, but it's been a while since we had a good old fashioned. Remember that guy bean dad? This fell a lot like bean dad or the guy who came on his cats. Did not come on. He was never near his cats with come. But it was a good, it was good, like innocent enough internet scrap where

people were just weighing in and getting their jokes off. It was kind of nice. I enjoyed it. It just it shocks me that he when he sent that tweet being like, this will go well. Well, he's he I think he sent it just being like trying to try to tell on the flight attendant and get the flight. Yeah, right. Which is there's no other reason to do it.

Or maybe he was just saying, like United, this is bad, hoping that he was going to get like, I don't know, a couple free tickets. But dude, you you play professional baseball, you fly for free all the time. I don't think that you need free tickets. So either way, he doesn't look good. The yeah, it's I'm actually in a holding pattern right now to skull fuck. I'm gonna have the skull fuck up my lifetime with Air France if they don't fix what's happening with SVP.

So people probably listen to SVP's podcast. When if you remember when he was on with us, the master Sunday from the airport and he got a call and he was like, I got something I got to deal with. I'll deal with it after his house is burning down. So really like sad, like it sucks really bad for me. He's trying to figure everything out. Air France wasn't going to refund a ticket, a ticket with he and his wife going to Paris this weekend because his house burned down and they're like,

yes, sorry, nothing we can do. So I'm I told him if he wants me, I will not sleep until I skull fuck Air France forever. This is the worst thing Air France has ever done ever. This would be a legacy game for me, though, if he calls on me. Yeah, what is skull fucking in French? So we'll look that up. Find that up.

Jake, can you look that up? You can cuss in French. I give you a question. Menagee skull, I kind of like that. And then what's your cool throne? My cool throne is Dan Snyder. So a report has surfaced and we talked about it a little bit on Monday show about a mysterious seven billion dollar bid that's coming in.

And I told you guys it's a bullshit bid. The guy has he has no money. He's not a rich guy. He tried to buy the Timberwolves and the NBA laughed at him and said, OK, whatever. So there was a report that came out today and I this popped up on my phone and I had to I had to almost laugh and just tip my hat to Dan Snyder for being such such an asshole to fathom to even even reach levels

that I had never even really considered truly. The seven billion dollars is allegedly being funneled to Davis, the guy that went to Duke and now he's a tech investor. The seven billion dollars is allegedly been funneled from Saudi Arabia. And it's it's Mohammed bin Salman that's trying. That's trying to buy an NFL team, getting money into the United States through an intermediary. And I just have to tip my hat, my hat to Dan Snyder for like if

this son of a bitch could sell the team to quite literally the one person in the entire world that would make me more upset than if it was Dan Snyder owning this team. And that's just levels of it feels personal at that at this point between me and Dan, and I still have every reason to believe that it's going to be him and it was Josh Harris and then the the other guy, Mitchell Rails, were sitting next to each other at the Sixers game courtside last night. So I'm pretty sure that means that their bids doing well, they're happy with each other.

But if it's if it gets sold to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, I just got to I think I have no choice but then to become I got to switch over. Sorry, the Amir of Qatar. I'm a Saudi guy. I'm a Saudi guy for life. I've already got I've got the whole get up me and Donny bought when we were overseas. I think I just have to become unapologetically a live tour guy and whatever F one crew that he sponsors and then just full blooded

commanders fan and just just accept the fact that I've been beaten. I've been I will have fully been conquered by Dan Snyder at that point. So I hope it doesn't come to it. But it was it was one of those moments where I was just I was laughing. I was like, well, well done, you son. I mean, we hope it doesn't happen. But it would be you would have fun. The heel turn and just defending him and just going like all in on it.

It would be fun to be a full time MBS stand. I can do you've got to get paid though. Oh, that's the thing. Yeah. Well, my payment would be just remaining alive. Yeah. That's true. That's a good point. It would just be him not sending his his bone saw guys at me. Listen, Jamal Khashoggi, he was actually a political activist in Saudi Arabia before he moved to the United States.

That's what they're not telling you in the mainstream. I'm just practicing. I'm getting much to be. That's that is wild. I mean, he probably would get a little more money out of Josh Harris. He's I think I might have said this before. But Khashoggi is the only guy in the world that probably hates the Washington Post more than Dan Snyder. Absolutely.

Oh, all right. My hot seat is our guy, Steven Adams. So they did a anonymous poll. The athletic did it of NBA players. And they did like a bunch of different things, like most overrated player tree on one that, which that's got to hurt so bad to just have that be like every all my peers think I'm overrated.

But it that's a fucked up. Yeah, it is. There was a category who in the league would you least like to fight? Steven Adams was two. James Johnson was one. Really? James Johnson, which I didn't realize is a black belt and karate and owns a 20 and 0 record and kickboxing matches.

So a fair one. But still, yeah, Steven Adams felt like that felt like his his title to lose. Yeah, that category was was basically made right. I'm I'm I'm shocked that I didn't know about James Johnson. I would have said maybe the Celtics coach. He's got he's got the experience again. Yeah, he likes to get choked out. But yeah, the yeah, the most overrated player.

That's the good thing for Trey Young is he had 14.8% of the votes and other one with 31% of the votes. So. Oh yeah. So he did another one. And then my cool throne is me because I'm an unfairified bad boy. Now I lost my check mark, which at first I thought Elon was actually being a man of his word and taking away check marks. Turns out it is a new rule that if you change your name,

so I changed my name to Beeple Paul Tracker, they take away your check mark. So I'm I'm out in the wilderness. I got to figure out what to do. I might have to buy Twitter. I didn't realize Billy also bought Twitter. So. Oh, yeah. He bought. No, I didn't. But Twitter blue.

Yeah. Yeah, you did, Billy. By the time this is being recorded, my blue check mark will be gone. Why do you say that? Change it right now. I can hear the I can hear the cute boy. He's cooking it right now. But I mean, everyone's is going to be gone on the 20th. Yeah.

For 20s last time. I won't be because I pay for Twitter blue because this motherfucker paid for. I might end up paying for it, but I'm going to live. I'm going to live as an unverified guy. It's been, I don't know. I've been probably eight years since I've been unverified. So yeah, it's fun. Is this is this even the real big cat talking to us right now?

Who knows? I've I've not decided. I don't think I'm going to buy it. But yes, you will. The long videos. Why? Why would I? Why would I ever? Why would you say it in the first place?

I was it was forced upon me. We've had this conversation. I tweeted a clip from Monday show and then I shared it from the part of my take account over 220. So it's useful. Very cool. Very cool. Oh, wait.

So Jake, I can just have you tweet at the long videos and then I'll just tweet your. But I can also do them all for you. I don't care who the fuck is watching a two minute and 30 second video on Twitter part of my take clips. Obviously, but those are way too long. Beside there's wait. So if you're not going to if you're not going to do it for the long videos, what would you do it for a big cat?

I if they tell me that like we got that email from the social team being like it helps engagement. So I I'm undecided. So we'll see. Somebody said that I was making a political statement when I said that I didn't plan to pay for Twitter blue. Is that a political statement to say that you're not going to buy something? Oh, I I forgot.

I guess it is. Everything's a political statement now, because it's just triggered in my mind. DeMar Hamlin is clear to play football. And I said, you shout out everyone's prayers. They worked and that got a lot of people upset. And but it reminded me, Billy, what how are you going to answer the fact that you thought he died? I never actually thought he died.

OK, all right, it was a bit. It was a bit. OK, you go back and say, OK, I'll play the part. The clone like I literally on the thing was OK. I'll play the part. But I think he's the same guy, but also like how can you raise his hands above his head and do you see how fuzzy the camera was? He's wearing goggles. Look, let's just see if he plays like the same.

What if he's better? What if he comes back better than ever? But it like reminded me how much Twitter does suck now, because I tweeted that and then people are like, isn't it crazy that we never found out what happened to him? It's like, yeah, we did. We know what happened to him. Jake, you're or no, Billy, your hot seat.

My hot seat is the whole Quinn Ewers Arch Manning quarterback battle at the University of Texas. Not only is it over, it really wasn't much of a battle at all. And in reality, in the U.T. quarterback competition, there was a big dark horse sleeper that no one saw coming in Malik Murphy. And they had their spring game over the weekend. And honestly, the most astounding guy was Malik Murphy, who I think has the best arm out of any of the quarterbacks on the team.

Quinn Ewers did have an amazing day, 16 for 23, 195 yards, one touchdown just in the spring game. But he looked pretty crisp, but he was running with the ones. But this Malik Murphy guy just was throwing bombs out there. And if, you know, God forbid Quinn Ewers goes down with an injury, like they're in good hands with Malik Murphy. Uh, great quarterback. It's good for Arch Manning, by the way.

Yeah, yeah, Arch. He should have started on his freshman. That would have been a lot. I mean, plus just watching Arch Manning in this setting, like he's only had 15 college practices under his belt and really like, you know, he's got he's a high school senior. He has senioritis right now. He really like if he's a 17 year old kid playing with college players.

And that's exactly what he looked like in the spring game. Honestly, great mobility, great decision making for what he was giving, running with the threes with a terrible offensive line. But, you know, this kid's got so much pressure on him, but he's kind of doing well for it. He's got senioritis. I like that. I like that take that. Arch Manning, Billy, you have you have chronic senioritis.

It's a long term. Also, you're a long. You don't have senior. Long haul senior. That's what I'm saying. Like he should be in his senior spring, like skipping class, like taking senior. But he's in college. He's in college.

No, he's technically he graduated early and went to college early. But like, right. He's in college. Right. He didn't get to experience the senioritis. He didn't get to go on his rum springer. Exactly. Yeah.

I like that, Billy. We're like, yeah, this is actually getting around the time of year where Billy's like, guys, if I had continued college and done like a master's degree, like, I'd probably be drinking a lot right now. So I need a month off. I'd be playing football probably still if I go into a different school. I like I like arch. I like the idea of him kind of like lurking because there's going to be some great

sideline shots of Arch Bandy every time Quinn Ewers throws interception. By the way, Quinn Ewers needs to grow the mullet back. I understand you're trying to go for a different clean cut look. Quinn Ewers has a mullet. You played great when you had a mullet. Bring that shit back. Facts. And your cool throne.

My cool throne is me because I put a lot of, I didn't know if I was going to get done by the time this podcast was going to happen, but my 2023 QB draft class rankings will be out by the end of the day on Wednesday. Okay. Wait, we got to do it on the show. Okay. Well, let's do it on Friday's show. So, so post a blog on Friday and we'll do it on Thursday.

Okay. Perfect. This is for anyone who doesn't know, Billy has, uh, what was it? What was last year would you have? Yeah, it was a bracket, but who won it? Last year it was Malik Willis. Oh, okay. And then the year before was, was that Chad Kelly's year?

Is that Sam Ellinger? Sam Ellinger's year. He won that. He was Billy's number one, right? He beat Trevor Lawrence in the finals. Yes. Huge upset. Yes.

So you know, like you basically can follow along and be like, who's definitely not going to work out. No, they all have a good head out. Yet we like, there's a lot more, you know, career left Billy. We, yeah. AR 15. Oh, AR 15. No, wait, don't, don't.

I take into account what the mainstream media does it. And then you'll see, I love it Billy. I'm excited for Friday's show. All right. Matters where he gets trapped. It's, it's, you got to have a good guy with an AR 15, not a bad guy. Yes, exactly. Yeah.

And that was Josh Dobbs who started for the playoff. Yeah. Yeah. Not really. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My hot seat is Brian Wintourst.

He was doing a hit on first take on Monday morning from his hotel room in Phoenix and he had to whisper during his hip because his hotel room neighbor was trying to sleep. It was at 630 local time, 630 a.m. That's just, that's just a great to grind. Yeah, but yeah. Wendy, when they work, Wendy, to the bone, he's doing everything. You remember when Wendy would fall asleep on the job because he was working so hard? They just, he was, I think he did like 36 hours of television.

Yeah. He, he is, we're, we actually, well, this would be a tease, but I've been in contact with Wendy's going to come on the show for the NBA playoffs at some point. Very excited. But he, he's a dog. He's got that dog in him. Was, was there somebody in his room that was trying to sleep? No, next door neighbor.

Next door neighbor. Like I feel bad. I have my roommate right across the wall here. I'm not whispering. Like, what's his name? Blake. Yell it. You, wait, what?

Yeah, Blake. Your roommate's name is Blake. And you didn't tell us? Now you know. Is he cool? Yeah. You want to, should I be part of Blake of the year? He's an AWL.

I'm sure he's down. Jake, I feel like this is a fact you should have told us a long time ago. You live with a Blake. What's, what does he keep in the fridge, Jake? Um, he's healthy. Hmm. He's healthier, healthier or less healthy than you. Probably around the same, but he cooks a lot.

I don't really cook. Okay. Uh, yeah, he does meal prep. Does he lift? Yeah. Does he play ball? Was he benched? I don't know what he benches.

What teams does he root for? South Florida teams. Can we, oh, that's good. Can we get maybe just a quick, you don't have to, you know, docks or anything, but maybe just a quick one sheet, uh, of all the stats that you could, we'll have them with the Blake committee and just try to figure out if he's, uh, qualifies. Yeah, I'll get it for you and, uh, give it to the committee. Ask him if, just ask him all morning if he wants to be part of Blake of the year.

And if he's like, yeah, sure. That's, yeah, then he's in. Yeah. But if he's like, he's too excited, though, he's out. He's out. If he says no. Yeah. Uh, then I want him even more.

He's definitely in. I want to fuck this. If he, if he says no, I'm going to fucking give this guy Blake of the year. I'm going to move into your fucking room, Jake, just so I can follow him around. Yeah. I'm going to watch him sleep. Yeah. All right.

You're cool. Throw on the defending champion, water dogs, lacrosse club. Please credit me and Billy. The schedule is here. Some of the highlights defending champion, the water dogs in a championship rematch against the chaos in week one, which ends opening weekend. First weekend of June. Thanks for asking, Hank.

Is the chaos third and fourth in Albany? Are the chaos going to have a ring ceremony for their second place finish? I don't know. The chaos, the chaos or a team of Canadians. And what's really funny is they all run funny because they're all Canadians and Canadians all run funny because they all played hockey. So you see them trotting around. This is true hockey players that like they're they're decent, but like they're

not going to be able to run with the dogs because they're Canadians. This is exactly why I wanted to do this show today. So I can, I can hear things like Billy do anthropological analysis of every Canadian environment from skating from such a young age and they don't run. Right. This is true. I've never seen hockey players like play pick up basketball. Or even any other type of sport.

They're the most leaf that like it's like they're only good in skates at what they do. And that is why it's so weird for 20 minutes again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they don't even look like athletes off the ice. Unlike Billy, a football player who's sick at basketball. At least I run right.

Good counterpoint. The whole schedule should be released this week, but similar to like when Shepter teams up with like Jeff Darlington, you got to credit me and Billy. If when you see the schedule drop. So look online, whose name first, uh, I'll let Billy do it. No, Jake, but when it's, when you're, there's citing do Canadians run right? No, you can cite me. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. That's good. That's important. Yeah. All right.

I'm excited. We're water dogs. We're probably going to suck probably have a championship hangover. No, we signed a lot of great free agents the off season. Is that going to mess up the chemistry though? No, no, because we're super team. We're not a super team. That's the redwoods.

They got a lot of names, but they could just never, you know, get together and play as a team. And what week are we playing them, Jake? I think the red was week two week two. Yeah. So also rumor is that they're bringing back the beer garden for the regular season. So if you want to challenge Billy, come to PLL games. Billy, should we be concerned that the, that the guys that we signed the free

agent guys, they're just ring chasing right now. But you know, if those guys want to work with the team and if they put in a great off season, I think, I think we're set for a dynasty. If they want to humble themselves. I mean, why did they ask us for ring sizes? Did they ask you guys? Yeah. Yeah.

I think, I think we just made it up. We ended the whip snakes. I did just make up. But Raebel texts me and I, he texts me during March madness. So like everything was going on. They texted me a week later. He's like, Hey, about this. And I was just like, uh, PFTs at 12, I'm a 14.

I think you'd ask me. I just say regular. I literally just made up those though. I don't know what they could be nowhere near. I was like, if it's the wrong size, let's put it on necklace. Fuck it. So yeah, we're getting rings. Um, all right.

Uh, we're going to go. Last thing, I don't think anybody brought up Jalen Hurts, Max. He and bring up Jalen Hurts new contract today, broke the bank. I was holding a sweatshirt during the entire, uh, hot sequel throne, hoping that somebody would say it. Yeah. I mean, I, this is, I was wondering what you were doing when you see these numbers, I, I think to myself, like, how come the Eagles have the only good

general manager in football to put together the cap numbers that, that Howie, and I love Howie because he's got the perfect name for Philadelphians to either be really excited about or really fucking despise. Cause you can say Howie, like you're about to slit the guy's throat or Howie, like let's fucking go Howie. And, uh, and he, he knocked out of the party. It looks like a really, really team friendly contract as far as the cap goes in the first four years.

I don't understand how, how it works. I don't, I don't understand how it's like physically possible. It's like eight million for, for the cap. Yeah. We need a capologist on this show. It's crazy. And also, I think my home's now is the seventh highest paid quarterback. It was pretty crazy.

Yeah. It's how fast it goes. Josh Allen, not, not at the top anymore. Um, Russell, Russell Wilson's like two, right? I don't know. Aaron Rogers is two. And then I think we might be three after that. So, and Joe Burrow is stoked today.

Yeah. Yeah. He's going to get paid. Um, okay. So we have a great interview with Michael Rubin that we taped last week and then we'll finish with FAQs and a lottery ball. Uh, like I said, PFT was not in studio for that. There's only like 15 minutes.

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It is Michael Rubin, CEO, founder of Fanatics. Used to be co-owner of the Sixers no longer. Is that officially done? That is officially done. Okay. So let's start there. So first of all, thank you for coming back on. We love, we love having you on.

Talking some business, talking some sports. Uh, do you think you were the curse because the minute you sold, uh, your portion of the Sixers, Joel and Bede wins the MVP. It's facts. Like, I mean, I said the second I sold, I went out and said the Sixers are winning a championship this year. I fully believe that's happening. I think it was my sale of the ownership that motivated everybody to play that much

harder, that much better. And I'm looking forward to helping everyone to hoist a trophy this year in Philadelphia. Wait. So that would, if they do win a title with that, I know you're a Sixers fan, but would that hurt a little bit? It would have to hurt a little bit. No. No, no.

Listen, these guys are still my family. I mean, look, you, you know, I mean, Joel is like a brother to me. James is a brother to me. I mean, these guys are people I'm really tight with. Josh Harris splits are a family to me. Like, no, these guys are absolute family. The only team that I really care about in the world, I'd say is the Sixers. And then let that, I mean, those are, that is my team.

Right. Right. Okay. All right. So you're still rooting for them, but I, that would drive me nuts if they won. No, I'd be, I'd be so happy. Okay. And I gotta tell you something.

It's so much more relieving and so much more peaceful to know that I can help it any way I want without 17 people looking at me and accusing me of everything. Yeah. Yeah. Do you get a ring if, if you guys win? I get a mental ring. I mean, I probably would get a ring. You just make your own too.

Yeah. You know, I'll tell you something. There is nothing that would make me happier this year than for the Sixers to win a championship. And I think we can do it. I think, you know, the team is really gelling together, the chemistry is there. It's exciting. People are really locked in. And I gotta tell you something.

I talked to, you know, Joe, James, Doc, Josh, Blitz. I talk to these guys as much as I did when I, when, you know, I owned, when I was the third largest on the team. So from my perspective, it just got too complicated with fanatics. You know, we're now, we have thousands of individual deals with athletes, you're not allowed to do that. We're taking bets, you know, on the Sixers. We're, you know, in business with ages, you're not allowed to do that.

We have players that own part of the company in the NBA. We bought Mitchell Ness together with a bunch of players. So it was just too complicated. But I mean, this is my team. Yeah. Was that the main reason why you decided to, to move on from the Sixers was because fanatics was getting into sports gambling. And is there like a hard and fast rule in the NBA where if you're involved in,

in owning a gambling company, you can't also own a team. Yeah. There were like 10 hard and fast rules that I think that didn't work for us anymore. So, you know, the reality is when I bought my stake in the Sixers in 2011, fanatics was a small business. It was a, I think a $250 million business. The business this year is approaching, you know, it's that original business, just the merchandise business, which is one of our three businesses.

That's more than $6 billion today. Now we've launched the collectibles business. We've launched the online sports band iGaming business. And we're, we have such a massive opportunity with fanatics to build this into really the only, you know, global digital sports platform or a fan can do anything they want, you know, with us digitally. And it just, it went from a benefit early on, it's kind of a business development benefit to really became, if I'm being blunt, it was getting in the way of fanatic success.

And so for me, to be able to be locked in and focused on how do I create the best experience for fans in the best business with fanatics, well, at the same time, being free to help the Sixers in any way I can. I mean, that's winning. So then now are you closing the door on sports ownership going forward? Because that is like every rich guy's dream. Like we always talk about it. Closed, closed.

You're closed. Closed. See, that's, that's a red flag to us. Yeah, we've said, we had the longstanding take that like people criticize Elon Musk for a lot of things. The only thing you can, the number one, like red flag is that that guy has so much money, he doesn't want to buy an NFL team. Like that's what rich guys should do. Buy an NFL team because that's cool.

That's what I would do. That's what PFT would do. That's what everyone in this room would do. So are you now, we're going to put you in the weirdo pile. Yeah. First of all, I am weird. So that's fine. And put me in that pile.

You do embrace it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, here's the reality. I have the most exciting, I'm the luckiest person on the planet. I get to wake up every day, go to bed every night, work 18 hours a day, figuring out how can we keep developing fanatics. And we are in the first, like we're in the first quarter of this game and we're barely

getting started. We have so much to do to improve everything that we do. And by the way, we're into new businesses over time. So for me, that's intoxicating to me. That's so exciting. And I think I learned a ton. And I think I added a lot of value to the Sixers. But for me, the opportunity to build fanatics into one of the most valuable companies in

the world, I think I don't want anything to get in the way of that. And sports ownership would be in the way of that. At the same time, we also, let's keep this real. If you want to have a real talk, why do rich guys want to own sports teams? Because they want access. I live in the epicenter of sports. We're doing the coolest things in sports. I mean, I'm fortunate that I get to work with the best athletes, the best owners,

the best leaders in sports. I work with the best people across your sports entertainment. So I've got the funnest job in the world. Right. That makes sense. It does. You mentioned Josh, Josh Harris, owner of the Sixers. Do you think he's going to be a good owner of the Washington Commanders?

Well, first, that's assuming he does by the Washington Commanders. He's a smart guy. Just tell me your art. You know what? You're a smart guy. Yeah. Honestly, I got a 780 on my SATs combined. Would you misspell your name?

Probably. I think I was drunk from the night before. So, yeah. Look, I believe that Josh will get this done. That's my prediction. All right. And I'm rooting for him. And look, that won't be popular in Philadelphia.

But I think he grew up in Washington. He, I think he would be a really good owner of that team. And I think he'll work his ass off to get that team to be a Super Bowl contender. And it'll be complicated for people in Philadelphia to understand. But you know what? He bleeds for the Sixers. And he bleeds for, he'll bleed for whatever team he's part of. But what I'll tell you is, and you guys know this,

because you have athletes on here all the time, sports is a business. You get traded. You know, James Harden bled for the Rockets until he came to the Sixers. Now he bleeds for the Sixers. You know, people believe for the team that they own a part of. And I think you can do a good job with both teams.

I think he will. I think that's a little controversial, by the way. A lot of people say, like, Michael, like, fuck you. You can't own the Philadelphia Sixers and a team in it competing NFC. But I think he's going to work his ass off to be a great owner of both teams. I'm excited about that. And at the end of the day, he can just remind people from Philadelphia,

listen, we both hate Dallas. Like, fuck the Cowboys. So we got some mutual hatred on our side, which sometimes is a better bonding experience than actually rooting for the same team. You know what the most important thing is? Josh has one responsibility in Philadelphia. And that's to be a perennial winner of NBA championship.

You got to get chips. That's his job. And you know what? The team's very good, but we haven't proven shit yet until you win championships. And you know, if he can win championships, and build a real dynasty, everyone's going to love that. And that's what he's got to do for the Philadelphia Sixers.

That's what he wants to do. And I still want to help do that. I'm still committed to him. People see that. You see, I'm still spending time with my guys, with, again, Joe and James, who are brothers to me, helping the organization anyway. I can't because I care about the winning championships.

Yeah, I can tell your friends at James Harden because you did a very sneaky thing there where you just erased James Harden on the nets. That was smart. You're like, he bled for the Rockets. He bleeds for the Sixers. So he played for the next. Yeah, exactly.

That's real friendship. Like five games. I forgot about that. That's real friendship. Just pretend. We just memory hold that whole thing. Yeah. I mean, if you look at it, the Sixers on paper,

they're definitely one of the more talented teams in the NBA. And they should make some noise. And we've got Max over here who's a Die Hard Sixers fan. Yeah, Max. And my guy. Yeah. Well, if things go bad, he'll start motherfucking everyone. And you know what he should?

Yeah. Because it's the Sixers responsibility to win championships. Again, when you own a team, that is your responsibility to win championships. Each year you do that and you don't win a championship, you suck. So what?

Like not talking about Josh, because I think he is a good owner, but let's talk about just owners and other sports. The thing that we always struggle with as fans is like why an owner doesn't take every advantage they can to try to put out a championship team, whether it be coaching staff, like where there's not salary cap, right?

Coaching staff, facilities. We saw that report with the NFL teams, where some teams were getting like an F minus in strength and conditioning and stuff. What's the disconnect? Why are people just buying teams? And then when they buy the team, they're like, well, I've done my job.

Look, I think different people buy teams for different reasons. Different people in different financial situations. I can tell you if I were a fan, what I would want out of my owner is someone who had one goal, which is to win championships for their city. That's what matters. I could tell you the Sixers haven't succeeded yet

in 11 years that the ownership group has owned the team, but that is the only goal that everybody is thinking about. And I think if an owner is not doing that, they're probably not the right person to own the team. Yeah. And by the way, look, some people say, look, this is a good business. It's a good investment.

You know, it makes money. It is. But I gotta tell you something, that is secondary. Like you own a team, you better wake up and go to bed, figure out how to get chips. Yeah, I agree 100%. That's how I think that's how we would run a team. But there's a lot of people,

especially in baseball, I've noticed, they figured out that you don't have to be good to make a lot of money. And then that hurts the sport as a whole. Look, your competition is great. You want as much competition as possible. And you want to make sure that people, like you want in the NFL, 32 teams competing

to win the Super Bowl. In the NBA, you want 30 teams competing to win the NBA championship. And that's what it's all about. Yeah. And now you guys are getting involved in hockey too, right? I saw that Fanatics is, you guys are doing the jerseys for the NHL.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, have you heard anything from the fans? Because hockey fans, it takes them a while to adjust to anything. They're like a throwback bunch for the most part. Hockey fans are incredible fans. They're incredibly passionate. They care about the teams.

I mean, they have some of the most passionate fans of any sport in the world. Yeah, so have you guys heard any feedback? Have you started the design process for figuring out what these jerseys are going to look like? Because it's, what, 2024? That it's going to get started with you guys? Yeah, so we'll start in about two years.

We'll be on LIS. We are super excited to do it. What people don't know today is we make so many jerseys already. So today, everything in baseball, Nike is made by Fanatics in the NFL, made by Fanatics. So we've been making tremendous amounts of Nike licensed products for years.

It's been an incredibly successful partnership. We've brought in the assortment. Fans have loved it. Look, you're right. Fans don't like a switch. I mean, that's just a normal thing. I think when I saw when it went from Reebok to Nike, fans complained.

Yeah, yeah. But by the way, we've got lots of things we need to do to be better as well. Like we're always pushing the envelope. And I can tell you, we make today about 70% of the hockey jerseys in the market today. And those fans love that jersey. If you look at the customer satisfaction ratings,

what do they say about the jerseys? They love the jerseys. It's a better jersey than what was out there previously. But we got to keep getting better. There's things that we haven't done well. And like when I look at ourselves, I don't say like, here's what we do well. I'm like, here's what we suck at.

And here's what we need to be better at. And we're thinking about that every day. So we were talking before about the sales in terms of different championship teams. I don't want you to trash any team. But can you give me a team or college team or pro that you were shocked by where you're like, oh my god, look at how much, how rabid this fan base was?

What you generally look for is teams with great heritage that I haven't won for a long time. So if you want to say what would be an incredible hot market, people are probably going to hate me for saying this. This is not who I'm rooting for. This is who would be great for fanatics business, Dallas Cowboys. That would be incredible. Now, I'm certainly the Eagles are my guys.

You know, lots of friends who play on the team, always rooting for the Eagles was happy they got to the Super Bowl, but they didn't get it done this year. I'm looking forward to them getting it done next year. Yeah, so what would be a team though that we didn't expect? Like, or maybe it's college. But you're like, oh wow, that was shocking. I'll tell you, give you some examples of teams

that you wouldn't expect. Like, the Buffalo Bills would be spectacular for business. Because they have great heritage. That could be a shocker to you. I think everybody in Buffalo would buy $500 worth of merchandise. Yeah, the Browns. Actually, think about everyone who grew up in Buffalo, or has any connectivity in Buffalo, would buy $500 in merchandise.

Yeah, the Browns. Browns are good. Lions, Steelers. It's been so long for the Lions. I know. I'm not sure that I know that answer. But that's, it's fascinating to me, because then you also have like the big, big city.

Like, would you rather have the Bills win the first one forever, or like the Giants? I would assume the Giants still would trump everything. Bills would be bigger. Really? Yeah, now here's the interesting thing. If a team wins perpetually, like the Patriots did. Yeah.

Even, eventually, there's only like, I would joke with Robert and Jonathan Kraft, like there's only so many times when I'm going to buy an AFC championship t-shirt. Flaw to the schedule. Right. I mean, they won 10 AFC championships. Right. I mean, you can only have so many AFC championship t-shirts.

So, I think you should have unlimited, but that's the reality. If you were to design like your perfect year for maximum sales, would it be like the classic Lakers Cowboys Yankees fan? Um, well, it would be like, um, for basketball, it has to be the Sixers period in the story. Yeah. And by the way, we haven't worn one for a long time. I'm smart for you.

And by the way, I'm going to take all the business down. Whatever the best outcome would be in basketball, I don't give a shit. It's got to be the Sixers. That's the only way I can think. But baseball, probably the Yankees? Baseball Yankees would be as incredible. Yankees and Cubs, you'd like either one of those teams to win every year.

Yeah. Yeah. Keep guessing. Uh, so hockey, what would be the biggest market in hockey? Probably the, maybe the Maple Leafs? Or maybe a Canadian team? Maple Leafs would be insane. Yeah.

Would be insane. Red Wings maybe. Red Wings would be great. Yeah. Your guys, Black Fox. Black Fox, yeah. They're not going to be back in a long time. Yeah.

But I'm rooting for you. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like everybody in Washington. For the first pick. Got some Capitals merch too when we finally won the Stanley Cup. They were great. They were great.

Yeah. A lot of OVJersies. They were great. Yeah. Now, what about Slamball? I heard that you're investing Slamball. Which Slamball team would move those merch? You know, I'm going to have to, you know, like, honestly,

Big Cat's my advisor for Slamball. Yeah. So he would know who the best teams would be. Who would that be, Big Cat? It's the, the Dragons. Jake, quick, hurry up. Find me something. The Slammers.

The Bruisers. The Bruisers. Bruisers are great. Jake. Jake. Jake. Bouncers, Diablos, Bob, Robbo, Slashlers, and Steel. I misspoke.

I, when I said Dragons, I said Diablos. You guys try to bury me, then you can't say shit, we can't even name a team. Hey, speaking of burying you. But I like, I actually like to be buried. Yeah. All right. So I'll bury you.

So your parties are legendary. Yeah. The one July 4th in the Hamptons, legendary. What's the policy on like extra plus twos? Yeah. So speaking of not speaking on anyone's behalf. We can address this. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We asked me the question. All right. So, so Dave was trying to go to your party. You got invited to your party. I think the story is that he,

his girlfriend, lovely woman in Savannah. So Dave was in, the answer was Dave. Dave in Savannah, and then Savannah's sister and her boyfriend, they wanted two more tickets so they could all go. And you said, absolutely not Dave in spit in his face. That's close. Okay.

Okay. So let me give you the real. So you did spit in his face. No, no, let me give you the real story. So first let me start with saying I love Dave. Yes. All love for Dave. He was a dumbass.

Okay. Oh. He was dumbass. Okay. Okay. So that party has 350 people to come. Dave was lucky to be invited. Ooh.

I'm just being honest. I'm not going to go out. Okay. Oh, no. Dave was lucky to be invited. Uh-huh. He, we have, again, 350 people. You know who comes to this party.

And Dave, and by the way, we call, we only, we invite 400 people, 350 people come. Like basically everyone who's invited comes to the party. Yeah. And we reach out to, hey, are you coming? He said, well, I need to bring three people with me. There was not, by the way, Jay-Z and Beyonce don't bring three people with them.

Drake's not bringing three people with him. But it's important, boy. And so I love Dave. And I say this with lots of love for Dave. Like, we were like, is he serious? And then I actually, someone sent me, my kid sent me, because she watches, Kylie watches. BFFs.

Yeah, with Dave. With Josh. And yeah. Yeah. Brianna. And she sent me the clip of Dave saying that I was dead to him and he was never coming to my party again. So we didn't invite him last year.

Oh. Yeah. So we got to fix this. Yeah. He's out for the win. No, no, no. We got to fix this. You got to invite him this year.

Yeah, it's not happening. Why? Put him on for four. Yeah. Listen, let me tell you what I did with the white party this year. At the end of the year, we said, who were the 75 people that added the least value? We cut them.

We sent a football team. You guys like great people and party performers? We do. How do you do that? What makes for a good party guest? By the way, you want someone who's people are going to love being around, who are going to be the life of the party, who are going to add value there.

By the way, we have, I mean, I had someone offer me a million dollars to get two people in last year of the party. They said, I'll donate a million dollars to your charity. I'm like, you can't buy your way into this party. Why is this party so cool? Now I want to go. If you've seen the pictures, it's basically. It's pretty much like everybody.

But David's invited to come with his girlfriend, but it wasn't good enough. He had to bring, he was bringing his grandma. No, no. It was, listen, I understand the spot he was in. If your girlfriend's sister wants to come too, it's tough. And they're visiting.

Sometimes you got to leave people at home. I would bring so much value to this party. I get beer punk started at like four o'clock in the afternoon. The party starts at five PM. Yeah. I'd show up early. That's how good of a guest I would be. So I don't know if you guys know, this year at the party,

unfortunately, we've had, with only 350 people coming, we've had some significant accidents at the party over the past two years. The first accident that happened was, I want to make sure I get this right, Charlie D'Amelio's, Sly Stixie D'Amelio's finger trying to cut a bagel three o'clock in the morning. That led to several stitches.

That was year one's accident. So we actually thought we would be really prepared and we brought a medical staff for the party because even though there's 350 people, we had a whole medical SWAT team there. That's crazy. So I went to the back. So after like 12 people performed,

you know, just like this incredible, like just natural performances that broke out at the party, I went to the boys' room. And I was new, I was trying 50 this year. And so my 50th birthday was coming a couple of weeks up, which was pretty depressing to me. And so Joel Embiid's running out to me, Michael, you got to come here, you got to come here.

Camille got hurt, this is my girlfriend. He goes, Camille got really hurt. I'm like, I'm like, Joe, like, stop. Like I'm not, I'm not falling for this. Right. Like I'm like, no, you're not tricking me. And then they're like, you got to go upstairs. And all of a sudden she, we just had our third,

my third daughter, our second daughter together a few weeks earlier. Thank you. And so she fainted that I would say the truth be told that she tried to drink with the boys and wasn't able to handle. She's still going with fainting. It's a real debate within the Rubin household.

I would probably side with you on this. Of course. Yeah, this is correct. No matter, she actually gets mad at me when I tell this. She clearly, she's going with a faint, I'm going with. But anyway, she fell over and hurt herself very badly. So I left, I had to leave at 12, 15, the party. Why'd you have to leave?

Because she had to go to the hospital. They thought she had broken down. That's why you got the medical tent. The medical. It's like, hey, send them off. So this is my party. I'm going to be honest with you. So the EMT doctor comes in the room,

Joel was in the room, and they're like, you know, her neck could be broken. I'm like, she's fine. Give her a drink. Like, don't worry about it. I'm like, she's good. Like, put her back in the game. Who cares?

And Joel's screaming like, I've had this happen. You've got to go to the hospital right now. And someone else is screaming at me. And so obviously I was like, do I leave my 300 friends here? Or do I go to the hospital and be a good guy? And so I made the decision I had to make. All right. So that was probably better than that.

I don't want to say it's the right decision. No, it was in the long term. Now I'm in the hospital. And like, literally as I'm getting there, someone else shows up. I'm like, one of our friends. And I'm like, Camille's like, why are you here? She's like, oh, my God.

When Drake got up and started performing, I jumped into a speaker shit, blood coming out of her head. Oh, my God. She cracked the head open. So literally I'm in the hospital, and I've got Camille there waiting. I've got this other friend of mine, BJ there, who's got blood squirting out of her head.

Who didn't need like 20 stitches in her head. So we've now had, with a total 350 people, we've had like three real accidents to you. You need to do the party at the hospital. Well, that would be a good idea. That would be a good idea. But so we've now, so we're now increasing the medical staff this year.

But the party starts at 5 p.m. It goes till 4 a.m. And I came back from the hospital. Of course left Camille in the hospital once I knew she was going to leave. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm like, I'm coming back in hot.

I'm FaceTimingTribe. I'm like, Tribe, I'm coming back in hot. And there were about 200 people left when I got back. And we went into high gear from the 2 to 4 a.m. strong this year. That's the mark of a good party. At least 5% of your guests go to the hospital. Yeah.

You did your job. Well, I think right now we're running a half a percent in cash. We can bump those numbers down. Needing medical assistance. Yeah. Yeah. Get like a bouncing aircraft.

We also had Billy at this point. We also had a nameless person who was drunk out of control where his friends would have had to get thrown out and then try to sneak back in as waiter who got thrown out last year. Oh, wow. But we would have 90 security at the party. Like this is like.

I would imagine. It's a lot of very famous people. People try to sneak in through the bushes. People try to come in. Like it's crazy the way people do. Maybe one year we do. Dan should try to sneak in this year. Well, no.

We should do a deal where it's like you know, we'll try to sneak in. We're going to test your security for you. Do it. So you can tell your security guards like, look, these guys are trying to sneak in so don't like, hurt them. But let's see how our security operate.

You're too sweet to hurt. Yeah. Come on. I'll just. You should try. I'll just be rolling on the ground. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you should invite Billy to this party.

That would be funny. He would ruin your whole party. My technique, I would break in early. I would break in like a week early, like inside man. So we had that this year. People were hiding in the bushes, off the beach trying to like crawl in. We saw that or that was like a one o'clock catch.

They tunnel in like their El Chapo, trying to get into your party. It's literally you haven't seen a thing like this. Also like you would. But at our Super Bowl party this year, which we'd love to have you guys at and Dave at. Very welcome. Oh, wow.

Dave gets invited to the big party. Oh, no. He's invited to the Super Bowl party. Oh, no. Um, we like that. We had, we had Drake at that one too. Drake was there. Yeah, he was there.

And at that party, we had, I kept saying to our guys, people are going to try sneaking like crazy. And we had, it was an outside party. We had it like, you know, again, 50, 60 security. And then he kept saying, Michael, you're being ridiculous. Like, like, like this is not the white party. Like it's going to be fine. They had 150 people that they called trying to sneak in

at the Super Bowl party this year. Oh, man. We're very sneaky. We could, we could definitely get there. I would like you to try. Yeah, we're going to try. Both parties. You don't know when.

But Super Bowl party, I want you guys that. Okay. Yeah. I'll go to that one with the other one. He does not want us. The other one, he wants it. I think he wants us to try sneaking so we can arrest us. Yeah.

One party is at my house where there's a space constraint. You can only have 350 people. That's all the fit. One party is in Vegas. That's fair. It was in Arizona outside. We fit our 1100 people. So how do you grade a party guess?

You said like on value added to the party? Well, look, people, people, I say this now seriously. Like it's actually super awkward because you have so many people that you're boys with that you're friends with who want to come. And the issue is we have space for 350 people. So like at the end of the day, we're trying to curate the best range of people.

That sounds like a lot of stress. You're basically throwing a wedding every year. We do. Yeah. Yeah. That's very stressful. It's way more stressful than wedding. Yeah.

Because the wedding, you only have like twice the amount of people trying to come. And also someone like not getting invited to a wedding. Like when someone doesn't invite me to a wedding, I'm like, good, I don't have to like spend money and go to this. I'm just thinking good, I'm in depression. Yeah, right, right. Exactly.

What's the seating situation like? Are there enough couches or are people just standing the whole time? It's, I mean, it's mostly standing till you get to the club. I'm out. Oh, I'm out. I'm out. So yeah, the party sounds shitty.

But by the way, it's got four. We start with everyone's outside on the decks and on the beach. And then we go downstairs for dinner. They're just seating for dinner actually. Oh, okay, I'm back in. Performants just start. Then we go into a nightclub that we have built. Oh, man.

That sounds pretty fun. That does have a lot of seating. This probably explains the difference between us and you. But if I were in your position, I would probably be retired by now. Do you, are you ever going to retire from anything? Or is your life just like, this is what you want to do for the rest of your life?

You want to be building businesses? You want to be in the action? Or do you see a time where you're just like, you know what? I've done pretty well for myself. I think I'll just go live on a beach. Zero point zero, zero, zero, zero, zero chance of ever retiring. Okay. Zero chance of ever slowing down.

I fucking love this. I have a blast. Like I'm so lucky to do what I do. And by the way, I'm going to be doing one thing which is building fanatics for the rest of my life. I mean, this is, you know, I'm the luckiest person on the planet to get to work with so many, you know, incredible athletes, entertainers, owners, league executives.

Like, like I've got the greatest job in the world. Like if I would slow down, I would die. And so I love it. Like a shark. Yeah. Yeah. Like I got, I got to keep doing this. There's nothing like,

nothing. Maybe, maybe I'd elude myself because I tell myself that someday I would like to retire. But maybe. What would you do? I don't know. Just hang out. Like what would you do?

Bet on sports. I would probably do the exact same thing that I do. All day, every day, if I was retired. Yeah. I'd wake up, I'd probably try to start getting in shape. I would maybe try to live near a horse. You got a little work to do. Yeah.

I got a little work to do. I know. Listen, I would live near a horse track so I could gamble on horses during the day. And then at night, I would watch the games and gamble on those games. So I really believe this. And I've seen it happen time after time.

I think retirement is basically you're saying you want to die. And I think, you know, for me, for someone like me, I retire. I might as well just say I want to, like I'm going to be dead because my brain works with activity, you know. Yesterday morning, I don't even know where I was yesterday. I mean, yeah, like I work 18 hours a day, seven days a week. Grind mindset. And I love it.

And I grind like crazy. And I wake up every day excited and then I go to bed and I'm exhausted. And I wake up three hours later every day. I wake up three hours after I go to bed. I'm like, OK, I got to get one or two more hours of sleep just so I don't kill myself. But.

Because I need four or five hours, not three per day. But you also do enjoy your life a lot because, like, I don't know, every other week, I'll, like, pop on your Instagram stories. You'll be on a yacht. No. No. How many yachts this year?

Um, I was, uh, it's a great question. How many yacht vacations this year, Michael? Two. Two? Listen, everything's public. Wait, is that 2023? That's 2022, baby, not one yet in 2023. OK, all right.

But wait. And by the way, I hosted a great party on my boat the day before New Year's. Where lots of people that are important to me were there. Yeah. But probably some of those yacht trips you don't count as a vacation. They look awesome.

They're work yacht trips. The holiday yacht trip, I'd say, is vacation. I've got lots of people I work with there. And lots of people with sports and entertainment. And by the way, we're always talking about ideas. Like, a lot of things, like, you got to realize the way we build our business. Like, I have so many people around me that I learned from.

That I, you know, that I gain information from that helps me to think about how to build our business better. So, like, if you think about how we bought Mitchell Ness, that was, like, an organic conversation that I was having with Jay-Z about, you know, how people, you know, I was basically, you know, because we own lids and I was basically talking about how do we make headwear more and more relevant each year?

And he was telling me, like, you're thinking about the wrong way. You've got to make sure that, you know, people, you know, the way you get dresses, like, people put on their jeans, they put on their hoodie, they put on their hat, that's part of your wardrobe. Like, don't think about, you know, a hat as being, you know, they're not part of your wardrobe. And then he said, by the way, we should buy Mitchell Ness.

And sure enough, you know, we bought Mitchell Ness with Jay-Z, with Little Baby, with Meek, with LeBron, with KD, with, you know, Joao and James, CP, Book, you know, CJ, like, and we did it with Kay Hart, like, so all these guys are partners. And by the way, they're helping to build the business. It's going to be a great investment for them. I think they got in the first year, they invested, like, a 12% of their money back on the investment in the first year.

It's like, unheard of. Well, it is, I mean, Mitchell Ness is a great brand, so that made perfect sense. Right. And so, and by the way, they're helping to build the business. And so for me, like, that's the thing that people don't understand. I do do some fun things, like the white party is fun, the hangover is not fun, by the way. The white party is fun. You probably have a staff of, like, IV nurses coming up.

You don't get hungover. Yeah. You've got all the good drugs that we don't know about. I will tell you. There's some chamber you sleep in. So I'm going to admit, like, this year at the Super Bowl party was maybe the most I'd ever drank in my life. Okay. And our party started, I think, two o'clock,

and then I went straight to something else. Then I went late. And I remember I looked at someone three o'clock in the morning. I'm like, why am I here? There's something the matter with me. I went home. I woke up. And Camille said to me, how do you feel?

I said, I feel great. She goes, I don't understand. Yeah. Like, there's something not right with you. Yeah. Did you drink champagne the day before the Super Bowl? No. Yeah.

Why would you do that as a silly guy? A fellow silly guy. Max did that. Max was also the drunkest he's ever been in his life after the Super Bowl party. But I didn't have one sip of alcohol until our Super Bowl party. Not once. I didn't have it.

I also, like, I actually don't like alcohol. I actually think it's disgusting. That's, I mean that. Same. I'm a guy's guy. But so I could not drink for eight weeks. And then I could, like, shot a clock and I'm in for 20 shots. Yeah.

Yeah. How much of buying lids was the fact that when you walk into a lids in the mall, it just smells awesome? That was not. First of all, I didn't know that. I like to learn every day things. It's a great smell.

It's a great smell. It's like a very unique smell. It's that in Anteans or the two best smells in the mall. You can put me in a hot topic and then in a lids, and I'll be able to tell you in a half second, which is which if I was blind. So maybe we should do that and do, like, a little competition of, like, tell me,

smell when you're in lids. You might have just created a new marketing campaign. You see, I always say I like to have people around me. I like to learn from them today. I've learned two things. One, the lids smell is great. And two, that we should actually start to do the lids smell test. Well, yeah.

It's, you know, it's one of those things that I think most people don't even realize. And maybe you don't, you know, you own the business and you didn't realize it. But lids has, it's got a unique smell that sticks with the consumer. And, like, you just know that you're in a lids. It's great.

So what I'll tell you about lids is they have, it's an incredible brand. They have an incredible consumer base. It's a, you know, much younger customer than that. It's a, you know, it's someone who buys a lot of hats and hats are part of the wardrobe. And, you know, look, we have, you know, we own a lot of cool brands.

You know, obviously lids is an incredible brand. Mitchell Ness is an incredible brand. Tops is an incredible brand. And, you know, Fnatic is really where you get everything in sports. So I got an idea for you. Ready for this one? Because you like being around ideas, guys.

What about selling extra flammable jerseys? So if you know guys. Extra flammable. Yeah. If you know a guy's about to get traded or leave a team, because there's nothing more, more pathetic than when someone tries to burn a jersey and it like doesn't fully burn.

So it's special jerseys that you buy and you're like extra flammable. Unless this is for like David Blaine, I'm probably thinking it's not going to be very good for insurance. Okay. All right. No bad ideas, right? No bad ideas.

No bad ideas. No bad ideas. Yeah. But you make them sign away. I'm actually like in the smell test better. I'm right now I'm thinking we're like one for two and big ideas. Okay. Okay.

Okay. All right. Well, we can workshop it. We can workshop it. Maybe what about if it was a, well, I guess that would like a non flammable where you can burn it, it looks burned, but then you can like put it out

and it's totally fresh and fine. And fine. But you want people to buy more jerseys. So. Yeah. Look, if your player gets traded, we want you coming back to fanatics. He wants you to burn it and come back.

We don't really want you to burn it. Extra flammable. We should celebrate the player and what they did for the team before. That's not how fans work. It sounded nice. That's a perfect world. That's a perfect world that you just described

where Dave gets all four invites. Yeah, that's never happened. Yeah, when you check out on the website, it says like I consent to giving you my information. If Dave comes back and says, listen, I was a little ahead of myself. Ah, do you know, David? I shouldn't have asked for a plus four.

I'd really like to come with my girlfriend on my own. I would think about it. Other than that, I'm going to love him forever. He'll always be my boy, but he'll never be at the White Party. If I love somebody, I would invite them to my massive party. Yeah. Yeah, it's not massive. With a lot of invites.

That's the Super White Party. Make it the day of Portland White Party. Yeah. We'll do that for Super White. We could celebrate him at the Super Bowl. But yeah, I think PFT is right. Check out. There's a waiver.

Yeah. And then also you could order flammable. I agree. You could order how flammable. Yeah. Like I want a new bomb flammable. Medium flammable. It's just like size.

It's no different than ordering different size products. Aren't going to be a big category for us. All right. I'm just, listen, if you sold extra flammable jerseys, like Packers jerseys for Aaron Rodgers fans, they would be awesome. Well, I thought it was going to be really exciting. If Aaron Rodgers comes to the jet.

Yeah, I'm sure you've been. You've been looking at the news being like, let's go. He's going to sell a lot of jerseys. I can tell you that. Have you ever thought about entering with a partnership with a player and then being like, hey, you should demand another trade so we can sell more jerseys? I would never do anything like that.

No, never. But if that player wanted to come to the Sixers and they were going to make the team back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That might, you know, could see something like that potentially happening.

Do you still trust the process? Are you a big process guy? We're process guys on the show. Huge process guys. I'm about champion. I'm a championship guy. I'm a chip guy. So you're a results guy.

I'm all about the chip. Do you need the process to get the results? Yeah. You know what? I'm all about, there's one thing I care about with the Sixers. It's winning championships. And honestly, like, I don't need to look back. I don't need to look at what the team,

what we got right and wrong, because we got a lot right. We got a lot wrong, too. By the way, we made a lot of mistakes. And you know what? What we got to do is win championships. That's the only thing that matters. Right. But I guess we've talked about the process

that the Sixers use on the show a lot. And it worked. You did everything that you wanted to do. Obviously, hit or miss on certain draft picks or whatever. But if you're from the ownership standpoint, how much patience do you have to have? Well, that's all taking place. Because you can't know that you can't.

So I would say first, it hasn't worked yet, because we haven't won a championship. I don't argue it has. The process worked. Yeah. So we can disagree. I would say to me, the measurement successes is winning championships.

And I would tell you that, look, I think what's great about Philly now is it's a great free agency destination. People want to be in Philly. They see the strength and leadership that we have in the ownership group, which I'm not part of anymore, in the leadership team, in the locker room. It's a great locker room.

I'm going to have so many great guys that work together as an organization. So I think it's a great free agency destination. I think Philly is super exciting. By the way, it's a cheap state to live in, 3% taxes, versus New York that's 15% taxes. So for someone who's making a lot of money, that could be $5 million extra cash a year.

They save if you're a max player. So for me, I'm measuring one thing. Chips. See, I think the process worked, because I think that winning a championship is so hard. It is. You have a 3% chance. Right.

It's more like putting out a contending team for a stretch of time. And then everything else is kind of a little bit up to luck. So I'm calling bullshit on you. OK. Because when our mutual friend just walked in here and Ron, you gave him shit for not winning the Final Four. Yeah.

He said, well, we got to the Final Four, and you said you're a loser. Well, yeah, because he was like, well, I was happy they got to the Final Four. Right. So you're just maybe happy about a process because we have a contender. But you have to.

I'm going to be happy when we have championships. But that was the first Final Four Miami had ever been to. You're going both ways. No, no, no. That was the first Final Four Miami had ever been to. Take a place on the street to stay on one side of the road. If they can build a sustained team that goes to the Final Four multiple years, that's different.

Like, that was the first time. I understand he can be happy. So who's your team? Who's your favorite team? Probably the Bears. And so the Bears. They have not built anything. So if the Bears got your championship,

didn't win, you'd be happy after they lost the Super Bowl? If the Bears got to a point. Well, actually, we have this debate. No, no, we have this debate. No, no, no, no. You're not really aware you're not pushing hard enough. We actually had this debate, and you're now about to lose this debate.

We had this debate because we said that would you rather, if Commander's fan, Bears fan, our teams suck. We said in the next 50 years, if you won one title, but missed the playoffs all the other 49 years, or you could lose the Super Bowl 15 times, we said we'd take losing the Super Bowl 15 times. Because that would be some sick. Like, you win a lot of NFC championship games.

That would be awesome. That's a lot of partying. You get to lose so many Super Bowls you get to go to. That's a real. It's loser talk. We know it's loser talk. That's a complicate. I agree.

That's a complicate. Yeah, because like, that's, listen, it would suck never to win one, but you'd also have a lot of great memories. From a business standpoint, think about how many more NFC championship t-shirts that you could sell. If you go to 15 Super Bowls, then if you just win one Super Bowl.

Yeah, 15 Super Bowls kind of a dynasty. If you think about something from a fans perspective, you care about one thing, winning a championship. No, that's true. But I, listen, you've given, listen. We've muddied the waters here. You need to start marketing more to losers. That's your problem.

You've got to get in the loser demographic. I'm on it. I'm on it. Yeah. I just, I always love the process because I think it's very rare in sports where a team goes all in on a strategy and tells the fans, because a lot of times what happens with ownership

is they will tell you one thing and be doing another. And so the transparency of the process is what we're fans of. Where it's like, if you give it to me straight, I can deal with it. I think communication and whatever you do is one of the most important things in life. And what I've learned is there's many complicated situations

and people don't know how to communicate. By the way, including in locker rooms, in sports, in business. Like to me, when you got something to deal with, just fucking deal with it. Yeah. Like that, I'm always like, I hate the, you know, I'm something's faster in my brain, but you're not like, I don't work that way.

Like I got an issue with you. I'm going to go grab you and tell you. You know, I see two people that I work with that are like, each winding me like, guys, get in the fucking office and let's solve this. Like let's not have this bullshit and kill brain cells. So to me, communication is everything. And so when you talk about communicating with a fan base,

of course they're going to appreciate honesty and transparency and telling them the truth. Which is why I tell you all the things, we screw shit up all the time too. Yeah. All right. So this has been awesome. I have one last question for you.

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Okay. The question I had for you, we have to ask this for a headline grab. Michael Rubin, will you ever run for president? Zero chance. Zero, zero, zero is, I've learned the 10x mentality. Greg Cardone, he taught me that zero is still a chance. I don't think.

No, so I'm going to be honest with you. I think it's a brutal job. I would never want it. It's, it's like, you can't get your done as the president. Like the thing I love about what I do is I can, as a CEO in an entrepreneurial company, I can make things happen. I can see something today and come up with an idea and I can effectuate that idea.

I can see something we've done wrong and fix it. Okay. As the president, it's a purely political job. And so I don't like that. So no, if you taught me today, I could be president today. I would have zero points of interest in that job. Sounds like you want to be king. Ooh.

Would you be king of the United States? Yeah. King sounds a lot more interesting. It does. It's a lot more fun. There's a headline graph. Okay. King's a lot more down to become king.

You can have kings, of course. But by the way, as a king, you know what I want to be? A great leader that brought everyone together. But ultimately, I think to have the influence to bring people together is really important. So the problem with the president is you start with like a country where everyone's divided. And I don't like that.

And I don't like, and I stay away from politics because I don't want to be in the middle of politics. What I want to do is bring people together. By the way, our white party brings people together. My Super Bowl party brings people together. Fanatics brings people together. I like to bring people together. And what I don't want to do is spend time

like working hard to not get things done. I want to get results and push hard. Yeah. So what I like about that, though, is I think that if you want to be president, that should automatically disqualify you from ever being president. Well, I'm going to tell you one other thing

about being president. I firmly believe this. If there's one rule that should be put in place right now, you guys tell me what you think. There needs to be an H max. You cannot be president past 65. Yeah. Yeah.

That makes sense. For the first term. It does. It makes me laugh. Like you can't have people. Yeah, because you're making changes that will have effects on when you're not around. Like I want people that are in the sharpest period

of their life. But by the way, I'm not trying to criticize anyone, you know, but in general, like I think she's so cool. A hypotensically shot is a sleepy joke. If there's a hypotensically old president out there. Well, we've got the last two presidents. Yeah, no, no. You're right.

The last two have been old. I agree with this. I think first term, you've got to be under 65 when you take it, when you become president. I think that would be amazing. I think you'd have sharper people that could be more aggressive. Like I want the lead of our country to be, you know, a great leader

and bring people together but be able to really affect change. You know, I work 18 hours a day and I know my energy doesn't stop and I want someone to work the same way. I think the president should be 18 years old. It's crazy. Wow, shit.

I worked 19 hours a day. But I guess I'm just built different from you. You might. You must be. That's OK. Are you? Yeah, so. Couple of facts.

We need you. I got one last, last question. This is another head of mine. Last, last, last. This is what we do. We say this is the last question. And then if you ask a last, last question after that, nobody ever gets up for it.

So you just keep the interview going. This is another headline grab. You found yourself, I guess you were kind of like at the middle when I think about Meek Mill and Robert Kraft and those two guys. Very similar. Those two guys are in the same sentence. I'm like, well, like Ruben was definitely involved in this conversation.

Meek Mill texted Lamar Jackson and said, or he texted Robert Kraft about Lamar Jackson said, Patriots need to sign this guy. Let's get it done. I have to assume that you were involved in some of those conversations. As a Philly guy, were you upset at Meek Mill for being like, hey, why are you telling the Patriots to sign Lamar?

So two things. One, I give you my absolute word. I was not in the middle of that conversation in any way, ship before I saw it on Twitter, when you saw it on Twitter. That's number one. Number two, no, I was not upset because you know, if you're in the sports business

and you have authentic relationships with players, you want what's best for the player. And so I know that a fan base may not understand that. But if Lamar Jackson at that point decided that he may be interested in something else, I think, you know, I want him to be happy. And so now my boy, Oh, just went there and Oh's a brother to me.

So I'm happy for those guys. And hopefully they just do amazing things together. But like, look, my business, if I'm just keeping it real and people won't like hearing this, it makes you, you're really a supporter of your friends. If they own a team, you're a supporter of their friend, you're a supporter of the player. So you want your guys to do well.

So, you know, I was excited for Odell when he went to Baltimore, not because I'm a Ravens fan, because I'm not, but because I wanted a great opportunity for him to go out and do everything he can do when I was pumped for him. Would I prefer him to be an Eagle? Would I prefer him to be a Patriot? Definitely.

But I was happy for him because I thought it was a great opportunity. So this has been awesome. Get ready for us to sneak into your party. I can't wait. It's going to be great. I'm going to be in there so hard. Yeah, we're going to, I want to get,

I want to get like the whole Moss suit where you like look like a piece. I'll make you guys a deal. If you guys get in, you can stay. Okay. Okay. I love it. I was like, you get in, you can stay.

Deal. I've snuck into harder places before. Yeah. I've got into Guy Fieri's Superbowl party. Yeah. No, no, no. We might have to make a video. Yeah.

Okay. Deal. You've created a very, very powerful monster. You get in, you guys can stay. The only problem is Silverjuly 4th our one vacation a year, because we work 19 hours a day. 19 hours a day, take really no vacations.

Let me tell you one thing. You'd have a blast if you got there. We'll be there. At some point, we will be there. I'm going to get in. Yeah. I'm going to get in. All right.

You can stay. It's time, Dave. Yeah. Oh, well, no. That would be a bad idea. All right. Well, Michael Rubin, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming by, man.

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Memes is going to read them. Memes, do you know how to read? Slightly. Memes, quick Islanders minute. We're going to do that now? Yeah, do it now. All right. Power play is terrible.

OK, we knew that going in. We did. How about the PK? PK wasn't great. OK. Especially because the Hurricanes have won the worst power plays in the league also. Oh, that's bad.

You let up a power play goal. So it's like the verbal meme, Nick Cage looking at the guy from the last of us driving. OK, got it. I don't understand that meme. Pedro Pascal. Yeah, Pedro Pascal. I did TikTok with him.

Yeah, go follow me on TikTok. Nick Cage stares at him and he's just smiling. OK, so how we feeling? Lost game one. That's OK. Lost game one. Probably should have won. I felt like they could have won that game.

What was the final score? 2-1. OK, yeah, probably could have won. They set the record. Wait, wasn't it 3-1? Did they not score an empty matter? No. Oh, OK, 2-1.

2-1. That's pretty much going to be every game. Yep. So you just need to bounce your way. Yep. So just pucks bouncing our way. Pucks bouncing our way. And they just got to score goals.

That was just me and my dad afterwards. It is. It is important to score goals. You have to score to win. That's true. Yeah, at least one. But most of the time, more than one. Yeah, more than one.

Yeah, at least one. OK, so you haven't lost confidence. No, no, no, I think we're fine. OK, almost a statement loss? No. OK, all right. Well, I was trying to help you there. Statement loss would have been great.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Frankie Pirelli was tweeting like, we will win games like this. Oh, yeah, and NHL rigged. Oh, NHL rigged? NHL. Oh, there was a bad call.

There was a phantom call. OK, all right. Well, yeah, it's NHL. It's time to talk about late hits or guys leaving their feet and slow mo and all that stuff with NHL playoffs. Yeah, but this one was just like, he slapped a stick and they just called slashing

and then they wound up scoring on it. Bullshit. That's your least favorite penalty, Hank, slashing. OK, that wasn't like a joke or anything. It was just, I was just leaning into you being a puckhead. Got it. Yeah. Well, what is your least favorite penalty?

I hit it when they shoot it at the boards and they mean to shoot it and it goes over. It's delay game. Yeah, yeah. That's bullshit. Yeah, yeah. Puck out of bounds. All right.

Go ahead, FAQs. Sup, fellas. Sup. Want to throw a hypothetical out there? Let's assume you're all in studio. Recording an episode when a fight to the death breaks out. Who do you think goes after who? And who is the last man standing?

Love you guys. Well, I feel like it would matter how the like a fight to the death doesn't just break out. OK, well, I mean, but let's just say it did. Hypothetically, I know Billy would go for me right away. He's had that in his eyes for years. I think what would happen is PFT would help me beat the fuck out of Billy and we would like we would kill Billy.

I think Max Max would probably squash Jake right away. Or would you go straight for Hank? I would probably go for Jake. No offense, Jake, but we have had some, you know, some some tough history where you've alphaed me. So I would probably have to take you out before you could take me out. I think I have.

I think Max I have loyal. Are we counting memes in here too? Memes in here. He's going down first means it's tough, motherfucker. I think Max I have Max in like Max is one of my guys now. Like he's very loyal to me. I think I could be like Max, go kill everyone. And then at the end, be like Max, now kill yourself.

And he would just do that. And I would survive fair. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Take one out. Yeah. Yeah, I just walked out of the room before. No, you can't do that. Billy, what would you do?

You would definitely go for me, Billy. You know you would know if it's the typical setup of it. Hank would definitely go for Jake first, meaning I'd have a free reign. I think if it was like a zombie virus thing where we all just went berserk and try to kill each other, that your proximity to PFT leaves me free.

So then the only time is I have to get Max before he can get out from the behind there. And little did you guys know I have an axe. So then it's the winner of, it would be the winner of PFT versus Big Cat, winner of me versus Jake, and then the winner versus Billy and Max. But Max would win that.

No, but Max is in the corner. He's disadvantaged by his positioning. I can close him off. I could come from over the top. Okay. But he's not going to be able to get out of there fast enough. So if I can get to him early enough, I think I have advantage.

And then Hank and Jake, I think it's going to take a little longer. Oh, wow. He said that's going to be a 12-round fight. We're teaming up and taking down Billy now. No, no, no. I'm saying this is like... Yeah, you're saying no alliances

because in reality, if there were alliances, PFT and I would ally. And then we'd probably do rocks, paper, scissors, shoot to see who has to kill themselves. At the end. Like we would waste everyone and then be like, all right, now one of us has to go. So then I'd be in the corner.

Hopefully my early jump gets Max. And then I have to turn around and deal with what's going on here. Max, you would... One thing about Max, he would fuck Billy up. Yeah. That is the thing about me. Yeah, that is the thing about me.

Yeah, he would fuck you up, Billy. When's Ruffin' Routy? If it's like less than two weeks, that would be sick to do. Listen, my boy Max, he needs a little fight camp before he's ready for Ruffin' Routy. I need a lot of fight camp Max. I mean, he was strategic about it.

You need to go to the mountains. Is it in two weeks? You can get your one weekend off. We could really get it going. I would take Max in this room, though, just out of like Philly scumbag. You know? Yeah.

He would grab people's dicks. He would bite dicks off. We also got to look at the best weapons in the room. The barbell, I think, if you could use it... This isn't a real knife. Fuck, that would suck. That would suck. I go to get someone.

There's a liver king axe underneath the sofa. I don't know where it is. Right. There's a golf club there. I really wish I had a gun. I could just pull out and be like, what do you guys think about this? All right.

That'd be cool. Good question. Good question. Throw some weights at people. Sound off in the comments. Sound off in the comments. Who is the guest you didn't think you would get along with before an interview,

but ended up having a good relationship with? And vice versa, who was the one you thought you would vibe with really well but didn't? Ooh. Well, the one I would say that changed my opinion on how we do, because there's a lot of guests we get offered, some of them we don't do

because we just won't be interested in whatever they're doing, the one I would say changed my opinion on like we need to be more open and we have been is Jerry O'Connell. Jerry O'Connell, I mean, we knew who he was, but we were like, all right, I guess we'll have him on and then he became our best friend.

So that was a definite like, hey, give everyone a chance. Who's the one that we didn't vibe with? That we thought we would? I thought me and Kareem would have something. Big poppy. Kareem was not, that was, he was not happy to do our podcast.

He was very upset that he was with us in any capacity. I'm trying to think who else like, I never thought we would vibe with like Dan Marino. I'm trying to, who else, who else did we walk away and we're like, ah, that one, well, there's a comedian that shall go nameless because they threaten to sue us. Good news is that I just said comedian.

There's, we've had a number of comedians on, so you can't, unless the person hasn't been on, if the person's been on twice, it's not them, but if it's person's been on once, they threaten to sue us. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

Sound off in the comments who you think it was. Well, like legit threaten to sue us. If we didn't like take down the whole episode and we're like, ah, that's not how it works. And it really, we didn't do anything bad at all. In terms of our interviews that like, there'll be interviews that we do. Sometimes we're like, ooh, we didn't really click.

That was our mistake. This one was not our mistake. The guy just sucked. Or girl. Get off girls on the show. We're trying to get more. How much work behind the scenes gets put into something like the golf video?

Between everyone's schedule. Oh, good question. Camera crew is getting the okay from the course of editing. I don't know what's taking so long. Well, I could start. I had to get up at five in the morning. That was pretty tough. Unlike one of my only days off.

Max memes. Why don't you guys chime in? How long? No, there's a lot. There's a lot. I mean, Max have gone through. I'm now in the process here. Golf is a lot of graphics and a lot of shot tracers.

If you watch a golf video and you're not able to see where the ball is going, it's kind of pointless. So there's just, it's not as simple as just like a PMT vlog where it's like you're basically just shooting stuff and then editing it and kind of just punching it together. There's a lot of, you shoot it, you put it in, and then you have to add, you know, probably three or four graphics per like shot really.

So it's a lot. From my perspective, it seems like a lot because when we go out there, we had four people with cameras. And after every hole, we had to do a clap to reset the cameras so that they can go back and look at the footage. A lot of moving parts, a lot of like, because it's weird when you're on a golf course,

it's different than being in front of a microphone in a studio. You're just saying shit constantly. So there could be a funny line that they got to find or some weird moment. I think there will be a little teaser for the golf video. You know, I was a tremendous teammate to Hank. I didn't bash him whatsoever when he was not close to me. I watched it last night.

What did I say? I want a lot of mean things. Basically. Hank, watch a rough cut. He watched a rough cut. I watched the long. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be teammates with anyone else in the world.

So it's, you know, but yeah, there might have been some times where when you were like 20 feet away out of earshot, I would mutter something under my breath. And then when you came back, I was like, way to go, Hank, let's keep going. But that. No spoilers. It's funny.

It's not nice, but it's funny. People will enjoy it. OK. What will you miss most about New York when you move? Do you have any new ideas slash segments for when you move to Chicago? Who? Good question.

We have a lot of new stuff we're going to do. Both PMT and also like office wise, we're going to be streaming a lot, a lot. We'll talk about that, Hank. No. OK. We are going to be streaming a lot. There will be a lot of think of like stool streams,

but on steroids and with a ton of space. And less organized. And less organized, but in a fun way. Yes, more chaotic. So you'll see a lot of us doing random shit, just being like, oh, I bet you can't do this and then being able to prove it right away. We basically have, it's imagine if we had a basketball court

right outside our studio now. Like we have, we have, it's for creative people it's like a giant just here you go, do whatever you want. And we're going to be able to utilize that in a way we haven't had that. Right. For seven years. Since I watched the first episode of Robin Big,

I wanted a fun, a fun factory that shit ruled. What are you going to miss most about New York? I am going to miss absolutely nothing about this place. OK. I hate getting on the subway. I hate getting off. I hate where our offices is just about homeless people and drug overdoses.

You're just walking over, I think dead people to get into the office every day. I did see a woman just like give me just straight up eye contact while she was pissing right in front of our office the other day. That was kind of cool though. It was borderline hot. If you want to put on the bonk list, that's fine, but it was kind of like a what's going on here.

I will miss the maybe one or two times a year that I'm either going to a game at MSG or going home on the Amtrak where I can just walk and be five minutes away. Yeah. What are you going to miss, Max? I'm going to miss a lot. I love New York City, honestly.

But no, I gasped because yesterday I saw I was walking down the street and there was a guy literally butt ass naked just shitting right in front of my face. And I was walking with my girlfriend and it was one of those things where I was like, holy fuck, and I actually moved her out of the way. It was a big fight or flight moment. I was like, that man is shitting right in my face.

Yeah, I think there's good parts of New York where it's like. There's good parts of every big city. Yeah, if we lived, if our office was in a cool area where it's like you walk outside, there's like a park or you can, you know, we just walk outside into just chaos. I actually will miss, I've grown to like New York a lot more than when we first moved here. There is, you live in Brooklyn.

Yeah, that's, some may say that's more New York than Manhattan. I guess. I mean, that's true New Yorkers. I would say I will miss, New York is very different than any other city in that it's like, there's so many different walks of life, so many different people and characters and just like weirdos, but like in a good way.

I don't know, I will miss a little of that. Some of the edge, a little of the edge, tiny bit of the edge, no? No, I'm literally racking my brain to think of what I'm gonna miss, but it's like, you know, there's good food in good restaurants. There's good food in restaurants in Chicago. Yeah. There's water, there's water in Chicago.

It is, I know there's been a hotly contested debate online. Recently, but yes, I am a big believer that every city has good parts, bad parts, good things, you know, negatives, all that, but living in a city is fun and you make it what you want to make it. So yeah, I will miss a little of the edge though. I also started liking New York once COVID hit, because like then that note, like it was like half capacity. I, and I don't want to sound like a New York hater.

I just have living here sucks. I'll be excited. It's a grind. I will be excited to come back here and visit because you can come here for 48 hours and do everything. You can eat at a good place. You can go out and have a crazy night. There's all types of, but like I'm not a huge nightlife guy anymore.

I'm not even a huge foodie really. Like so living here and paying what you have to pay to live here is not worth it, but I think it'll be fun to visit. I love it here. Yeah. It's great. The only big downside coming from Florida, it's really hard to play golf tennis, pretty much any sport.

Like that's something you have to, you have to make a big effort and eat up all your day just to do something that anywhere else is pretty easy. I guess, yeah. The only thing I'll miss about New York is the people for real. I do like the, the people are weird. They're interesting. They're cool. They're gritty.

I don't know. I do like the walking aspect too. You can walk everywhere and do anything except play golf. Except play golf. All right. Last one. I will not miss my commute. That is ass.

Yeah. People don't know, but memes commutes like 90 minutes one way. Yeah. And then saying back, Jesus Christ. That's, I mean, it's insane. Yeah. It's insane.

Hello, PMT. I've been trying to figure out for a long time and maybe it's an inside joke. You don't want to disclose, but what is the common denominator for guests that get the, and now for something completely different, snip it before the interview? Oh, I didn't know we do that. That's for a two guest episode. That's yeah. Oh, interesting.

I didn't know we do that. I should probably listen to the show. I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. Yeah, that does seem self-explanatory. Because it's just one interview and now for a different interview. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Anything else? That's it? No. Oh, have you ever gotten one? Have you ever gotten it? I've never even gotten it. Oh, memes. All right.

Hank, have you ever gotten a water ball? No. By the way, I posted it all the stats publicly. People are coming at Big Cat for only getting one, but I've gotten one. They fly forever. What do you want to do? I've gotten one. People are like, are you going to talk about the fact you've only got one?

Yeah. You just said it. I got one. One is all you need. And people do forget the day that I got one. I actually got two. It didn't count officially, but we were here doing short porch. I've got one then too, which is not officially.

No, you actually haven't gotten it unofficially. I mean, if we're just making stuff up. I mean, it was literally taped. No, no, I'm not taking credit for it, but I'm saying I literally got it in two day in two and one day. You've never gotten even when we're fucking around. You don't know that. So go to my Twitter.

I tweeted out the Google doc. It's visible to anyone. Thank you, Jake, for backing me up. Flags fly forever. If you had one, what would you it the people can start? We just had this debate right about 50 years. If if if Hank gets two and I'm still stuck on one, then he can flip it on me. Absolutely.

That would be fair. But right now I got one. You've got none. You've never gotten. You have a ring the rest of your life. Have you ever gotten this? No, I have asked me that. Ask me the same question.

You've got this. Yes. Okay. Numbers 69. One. My son has two, six, 17, 20. What were you looking at before? It's a different angle, you know.

What was your guess means? One. 55. Was that one of the ones that Stathall told them to guess? Oh, no. Oh, no, I think it was. No, Stathall said 50 54. 40.

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