Pardon My Take - Michigan State HC Tom Izzo, Uconn Dominates, UNC/Arizona Choke, World Series Picks + Fyre Fest

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

The Caleb Love vs RJ Davis matchup was stopped by Caleb Love and RJ Davis (00:00:00-00:09:02). Uconn is on an absolutely domination path and Terrance Shannon may be the only guy who can stop it (00:09:02-00:19:31). We talk World Series picks and Fridays Games (00:19:31-00:34:53). MIchigan State Head Coach Tom Izzo joins the show to talk about his career, tough coaching, his famous WAR drill, having a hoarse voice and tons more (00:34:53-01:21:15). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week (01:21:15-01:35:09).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have an awesome interview with Michigan State head coach, Tom Izzo, legend of the game, Hall of Famer. We're going to talk some March Madness with him. We'll talk coaching, the war drill, everything with Coach Izzo. We're also going to recap Sweet 16 games. We have four teams that have punched their tickets into the Elite Eight. So we're going to talk about that. Maybe also do a little abbreviated baseball preview because it was opening day. We'll give our picks for the World Series. Our full baseball

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Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Part In My Take presented by Marshall Sports. Welcome to Part In My Take presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. New customers can bet five bucks, get $150 instantly and bonus bets only at DraftKings Sportsbook with code TAKE. Today is Friday, March 29th and the R.J. Davis Caleb Love rivalry game was stopped by R.J. Davis and Caleb Love. So, they went and combined 0 for 18 from 3? Oof!

Am I reading that right? Yeah, it was the first time ever. I saw the stat. It was the first time ever. Oh, am I reading that right? Yeah, it was the first time ever. Uh, I saw the stat. It was the first time ever. So Caleb Love over nine from three, RJ Davis over nine from three. First time any two players have shot over nine or worse from three on the same day in the NCAA tournament and Arizona and UNC are going home. Yeah. And UNC as big as any of those missed threes, was Baycott's missed dunk. That's why, number one, I don't dunk.

Number two, two-handed layup counts the same. Yeah. Same amount of points. I mean, that game was incredible. UNC Alabama was incredible. And it came down to, yeah, Baycott's dunk. But to me, it was more Withers shooting a three with a minute left.

I don't know why that guy was shooting that three with 10 seconds left on the shot clock when they were up three with a minute left. I don't know why that guy was shooting that three with 10 seconds left on the shot clock when they were up one with a minute left. And then again, it always comes down to this, like Baycott was an absolute monster on the boards and he gets his third foul with like 14 minutes left. Hubert Davis pulls them for four or five minutes. And I'm not like, I think they played about even but what Baycott was doing on the offensive glass, defensive glass, like they could not guard him pick and roll. It just completely changed the complexion of the game. And I don't know why you don't say, Hey, look, you're, you're a 10th year senior. You can stay out there and not foul and just do, you know, still be a positive for us grabbing up all

the boards, running, pick and roll. And Bama deserves all the credit though. Grant Nelson was incredible. Grant Nelson was an absolute force. Love the mustache. Double double even had the block at the end of the game with like 0.6 seconds left. The court heave. Yeah. I don't know if he tried to miss that last foul shot. I was saying that he should just because yeah, don't let him set up anything to run a play. Even if you're just inbounding it from underneath your own basket Just let him try to huck it and then he swatted him. That was a great play by him Awesome mustache for that guy awesome. I said I go to state. Yes that man Look, he should be on the North Dakota State flag. Actually that should just he's the new symbol

They should build a Mount Rushmore in North Dakota and should just be his face face. Devil's Lake, North Dakota. Devil's Lake. So Alabama marching on. It was an incredible game. This is what we all expected, that we'd get some sweet 16 games that were awesome. Clemson beats Arizona. Arizona runs one of the weirdest game plans ever where Tommy Lloyd is, I think, a good coach, but then they have these games in the tournament where they were just chucking threes.

I don't think they guarded a guy off the ball once all night. Like they were just back cutting, Clemson was back cutting Arizona to death. And then you had on top of all of it, they cut the lead and just like not deciding whether to foul or not. And then having someone leak out and one with like 15 seconds left game over.

What did Rick Pitino teach us? The lost art of the bounce pass. Clemson brought the bounce pass back. They were feeding that dude down low, running that like Princeton back door cut. And Arizona didn't even pretend like they wanted to defend it. They were just like, OK, tell you what, we'll give up two points because we're going to go down court.

We're going to shoot a three. Fun fact about the Arizona Wildcats, they have now lost to a team seated at least four spots below them in each of their last six NCAA tournament appearances. That's the longest streak since seeding began in 1979. Damn. Yeah, it does feel like every year we're like, Hey, Arizona, watch out. They're so good. They have all these athletes. Bolo's a problem. And yet again, they're so good, they have all these athletes. Ballos a problem, and yet again, they're going home earlier than they expected, and Clemson, those Clemson Tigers PFT. I think Alabama's gonna run them out of the gym.

It was a, you know what? 18, they were fucking good. It was a cute little win, cute little win that Clemson had. You ran up against a team that couldn't make a three point shot. Alabama's gonna just score 120 points on you. That was, uh, they were, they were running some awesome offense where they're just getting easy looks at the basket. Yeah, no, they're going to continue to do that, I think, against Alabama.

Yeah. Um, but I'm, I'm going to stick to our guns on this podcast. I think they're going to get smoked. I think Clemson, great story. How kind of sending can we be towards Clemson. Great story. How kind of sinning can we be towards Clemson right now? Well, we could say the teams that could win the tournament as of right now, it's Alabama. Yep. You con it's Illinois. It's Purdue Gonzaga, Tennessee, Tennessee, Houston, Houston, Houston and Duke. And anyone can win state market, I would say, but not Clemson NC state team, destiny, market, shock, a smart, proven winner. I think, uh, I think Clemson NC State team of destiny Marquette shock a smart proven winner. I think I think Clemson, you know, it's a good story They had kind of America's sweethearts. Nobody saw it coming. They snuck into the tournament A lot of people not us said they shouldn't be in the tournament

Yeah, but I think I think Klotz clock has struck midnight on the Clemson Tigers. Yeah also Shout out. There's a big golf tournament this weekend. We had CW Kim tracker, give us an update. He said elite eight bound fuck you. PFT commoner bar so big cat, Philly maze. Yep. We've made a very powerful love this track. He's the only tracker that I want to step outside of golf because that is such an aggressive tweet that I just I tip my hat and be like, that made me laugh out loud when I saw it. So wait on, on Saturday when Clemson's playing, wait, is there any chance they play an early game? I would love it if it was like back to back tweets about like, Oh yeah.

He will Kim in the rough off a whole number nine, one hundred, one hundred. Yeah. Joe Gerard for three. Yeah. Joe's right. Yeah, exactly. I want to go, I want to be, be going back and forth between Sewell Kim updates and Clemson basketball updates.

Switching back and forth between Seawoo Kim updates and Clemson basketball updates switching back and forth Yes, so yeah Clemson. I mean they were they did run perfect offense tonight and Arizona is a joke Yeah, they just shocked what did Arizona end up shooting for three? It was just kept every every possession five of 28 five of 28 every possession for Arizona Felt like when when you're playing in like a long, terrible game of pickup and you're at 13 points and then you're like, all right, let's just shoot a million threes when you could have gotten a couple of layups. So you're like, no, let's just keep chucking threes and try to end it this way.

They're playing like they were tired. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They're like, let's get out of here. Let's just try to win this game by hitting a bunch of threes that we're not going to hit. Yeah. It was a very weird game plan and their defense stunk tonight. So I think, I think we're at the very least we have an elite eight matchup between Alabama and Clemson where one of the two teams will go to the final four for the first time. Yeah. And probably the best

football matchup that you can get. Yeah. I'd love to watch that football game on Saturday. Yeah, they should. Yeah, they should just replay one of the night replay the night at the hunter info national championship game Yeah in the other in the other bracket we should talk about Yukon and their path of destruction So here is Yukon's last eight tournament games 24 point or sorry nine tournament games now 24 point win 15 point win 23 point win 28 point win 13 point win 17 now. 24 point win, 15 point win, 23 point win, 28 point win, 13 point win, 17 point win, 39 point win, 17 point win. And the craziest stat of all is UConn has won nine straight tournament games. Andrew Hurley has recorded a minute

in every single one of those games. Yeah. I would say maybe a crazier says that UConn has won nine straight tournament games, despite the fact that the committee is doing everything They can to prevent Danny Hurley and his team from moving on. I love Danny Hurley so much so much He was he got pissed at his player for hitting a three. Yeah a minute left So about that I I do have a bone to pick with Danny Hurley So I'll say something nice about him and then I'll unleash my gripe something nice about Danny Hurley I think he's right on the money. He said after the game that they need to show his wife on TV

more. Yeah, I respectfully agree with Danny Hurley. I like her necklace. She has a blinged out husky necklace that looks awesome. I did not see her necklace, but I'll try to notice it next time. I agree with Danny Hurley. Again, respectfully, respectfully. I'd knock it out of the park respectfully with all due respect I'll do respect standing on Gandhi. Uh, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, the other part is My gripe with him. Let your son shoot. Let your son take a three. I know you guys are winning these games by a lot of points but Let Andrew put up a shot with like 60 seconds left

I think he did put up a couple shots against Stetson I want to say but yeah, I agree. He's telling he's on the sidelines being like be classy be class I get it The people want Andrew Hurley to make a three. I agree. He uh, yeah he went Oh, no, he hasn't he hasn't gotten his shot. He got a he recorded a foul against Stetson He has not gotten a shot this tournament, but he got a couple last tournament. I agree. Let him get a shot. Let him get a shot. Maybe he's doing it because he knows that his son is also going to be an outstanding coach one day. Yeah. And he wants his son to not let his grandson. Yeah. But I feel like if you were to ask the, uh,

the patriarch of the family, like the grandfather probably wants the grandson to make a shot, right? Yeah. But the dad doesn't. Right. So by instilling these values into Andrew Hurley, Danny Hurley is actually preventing his own future happiness watching his grandson make a shot. Right. But it is tough Hurley love and Yukon is just an absolute monster right now. Is this your worst nightmare, Max?

No, I mean it is what it is. Cause if they go back to back like this, the way they're going, like that's, that's way more impressive than Nova's two titles. Oh yeah, I mean they're, at this point it doesn't even matter, they're just so far ahead of us in every facet of history, standings in the big East, future, present, afterlife, everything. standings in the big East future present afterlife everything there. I mean they're they they like

Everyone's you know Bitcoin this shit coin that Yukon you can't is you can't just say all they do is just kill teams by a million We're doing like Colin Coward, but you can is like Apple stop it is It's like Amazon. It's fucking insane How good they are and they have an answer for everything and I don't even think they played like an a plus game tonight And that was it was like San Diego State It was like 1010 or something and then you looked up and it was a nine-point lead and then you looked up

There's a 20-point lead and like okay San Diego State pulled their starters with four minutes left The problem is we haven't seen Yukon like I haven't paid that close to I've been watching the scores of Yukon games More than I've been watching the actual on-court action. They have an answer for everything. They have dudes everywhere dudes They can hit so many play any style you want to play. They got a monster down low they got guards that can hit shots like they just do everything and Yeah, it's gonna be actually I was so I was rooting for Illinois, not because a big 10, but because I wanted to see Illinois versus

UConn, which we get now in the lead eight, because if there's only if there's one person who could possibly stop UConn, it's the way the turn Shannon is playing basketball right now. He's unreal. He's out of it's like he needs to make his foul shots though. Oh, their whole teammates needs to make their foul shots. That was the fact that Illinois won a sweet 16 game going 15 for 29 from the free throw line. Like they should have won that game by by 10 points plus. And we talked about this on Sunday. I think that the tournament you can't not everyone can be Yukon where it's like every

game you roll out and you're winning by double digits. Some teams are going to have to survive a B minus game and that's what it felt like Illinois did tonight. And they, you know, Iowa State's a very tough team and Illinois like that, Demass and Terrence Shannon and Coleman Hawkins. Like I know that UConn's going to be favorites. I know UConn can probably waste anyone, but this game is gonna be so awesome on Saturday.

It's gonna be great, yeah. And Underwood is coaching his dick off too. I love him. Yeah. Booty ball. Booty ball, he's coaching. Booty ball. Throwing his ass into him left and right, left and right.

It's good, it's good for the sport. I did not know why, is it Otzel burger or Otzel burger? Otzel burger? Otzel burger wears the tight polo shirts. He's like he's a Wisconsin guy. He's a wrestler. I think so I looked it up and He wears actually a smidium Oh wears a size between small and medium and the reason why he does it is to emphasize accountability to his team I like that is what he says. It's the best coach talk ever. So he says that the polo gives me a greater sense of self-discipline each day that I wear

the same size and opt for that. It helps me stay as disciplined and as accountable as I need to be our program wearing that shirt. So he wears it so that he can't put on weight. I love it. Which is a smart move. Yeah. And then if that size becomes too small for you, then you know that you fucked up and you weren't accountable I do the exact opposite. I only wear black sweatshirts. Yeah, I'm being is the least accountable. I could be I like that in this situation

But yeah great games. I can't wait for tonight's games Should we do some picks for tonight's game? Should we talk about it? Oh Hank? What do you got in front of you got Got the Coors Light Ice Luge. Yeah. Glass slipper. Yeah, there you go. That looks good. A PFT commenter idea come to life.

Nice. Yeah, you pour the beer right in there. I remember that meeting. Yeah, you do a Shoei out of it. Yeah. When your Cinderella moves on. You wanna do a Shoei out of it? Yeah, Shoei.

Maybe we'll do it right before the is Oh interview Let's do that because it will be though It would be the last thing we do before we kick it to is oh, I did one earlier very very cold turns out ice Extremely cold. Yes, the coldest. Well, is it the coldest is ice the coldest you can get no you can get colder than ice Can you yeah cores light? That's true. That's fact. All right, so let's do some picks Brought to you by our friends at uber eats big announcement Did you know they can get almost almost anything from uber eats and no I'm not just talking about food from your favorite restaurant Uber eats has a full range of delivery capabilities beyond just restaurant food like groceries Convenience and alcohol whether you need ice cream batteries highlighters or paper towels or maybe all four

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I'll come get my phone. All right. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Here's my new phone. That's your normal phone that you've always had. Phone. I've always had this phone Are you wearing lipstick? No, that's just the hue of my lips. Okay. So yeah. All right, so let me look up on my normal phone What is it for people who are listening? Oh people are listening. It's a beautiful pink phone case. I always been a case I don't know. I've always been a case. I've always been a pink face case guy I think that this is the height of masculinity and it screams if I were to have to leave a locker room I would look you guys feel like I'm leading this locker room right now I don't know yeah

I don't know if I can think I don't even think that's the right way hold on hold on hold on like it looks like it's not the wrong one I bought that one it's watch this now do I feel like I'm I'm doing I'm leading a locker room? No, it seems like you're- Yeah, it does. It seems like you're very Gen Z. Yeah, no, I bought the wrong one. I bought the wrong one. It doesn't fit. Anyway, I like the Gonzaga Purdue over. 154.5.

I love, love, love. I gave Purdue as my mega max lock of the first round that hit easily and it's been overtaken by Gonzaga money line. Oh Love love love love feeling froggy. Love it. Hey, don't frog is very simple. He sees a plus sign He's like I like that better. Yeah, it's more money. I Love froggy, but what my frog you feeling froggy? I don't know Yeah, frog, I don't understand the reference, but I don't either but it feels sounds good doesn't feel a little froggy? I don't know. Yeah, sure. I don't understand the reference, but... I don't either, but it feels... sounds good, doesn't it? You feel a little froggy?

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Get grocery, alcohol, everyday essentials in addition to the restaurant food you love. Uber Eats! Almost, almost anything. Order now. Boys, so we have these games. Wait, Hank, are you going to be Duke Hank? Very important question. Yeah. You're going to go all in. I'll be in. Not all in. I don't have any gear. Yeah, I'm not I'm not all in. You don't have any gear? No, I told you I when I moved I got rid of some clothes and I had one Duke sweatshirt and that didn't make the

cut. Do you have anything from like Brooks Brothers? Yeah, yeah. Just wear like a collar wear a collared shirt and talk down to us. Any loafers? Yeah, actually I have a nice super douchey white and blue pinstriped. Oh, perfect. Yeah, you should do that. Perfect. And then make everybody want to punch in the face. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. Yeah, very.

That exists. Yeah, just walk in the room. Should we talk a little baseball? It is opening day. Let's talk ball. We should talk ball. We're seam heads, we get it. So we want to do some we'll do our full

Baseball preview in the coming weeks, but we should probably give our picks for the World Series. Also, I want to say I'm starting to think maybe Shohei Otani does have a gambling problem. I'm coming back to your side Piaf. Yeah, cuz have you thought more about the fact when you do a wire transfer somebody hits you up and says like hey You need to authorize this? I was really banking on the forensic accountants. And I still don't really understand what they do. And so when I was thinking about it more, I was like, what if these forensic accountants

don't figure it out? So once the forensic accountants got involved, did you also consider the fact that number one, you get a text notification or an email from the bank yeah but he might show he's he might be like have given this guy his fucking account and then to have you thought about the fact that to get forensic accountants involved you have to press charges yeah and somebody and as an as of at least yesterday afternoon there's no record of any charges being prepped I will say though I do think the MLB is just gonna sweep it under the rug. Of course. Yeah, that's it's like it's almost done

I'm telling you it might be done. They're gonna they're gonna reinstate Pete Rose Yeah, and they'll be like under the new rules show. Hey did very little wrong Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna under our new rules show. Hey is still eligible to play We should do our first round of Dingers only draft just the the first round? That's what we're going to do, right? Take one player, was it one player a week? Oh, I kind of like doing the whole draft at once. We talked about doing one player a week for the first nine weeks of the season. Hmm. I feel like that's going to be kind of like the dynasty recap that we did.

Just get it over with all at once? Yeah, no, I think that's probably, people are going to be pissed about that. I think we got to just one pick per show No, yeah, I think we got to just do a Dingers only draft. Okay, when when the time comes fuckers We'll know it it's gonna take show. Hey, we'll feel it when it happens like you will feel it being like oh shit There's nothing else to talk about Dingers only time. Yeah, but baseball is back one Soto MVP Yankees World Series That was a sick put out from right field that he had. That was great. Tyler O'Neil, who I didn't even know what team he played for.

Our boss, Dave, texted me this morning, said he's hit a home run four straight opening days. He hit a home run for his fifth straight opening day. Pretty incredible. Pretty nuts. So what do we got for World Series picks? I have a future that I put in Drafting Side, I liked a lot. First time World Series winner.

So either the Rockies, Brewers, Padres, Mariners, or Rays. So that's the Eds. The Rockies. The Dimes. The Rockies lost by 16. Diamondbacks had a 14 run in there. 14 run in there.

So Rockies are out. The Rockies have a pitcher who's, I think his ERA is 168 right now. Yeah, who else? Brewers. Out. Pods. Maybe. Pods. It's gonna be the Pods. Think his e ra is 168 right now. Yeah, who else brewers out pods Maybe pods okay, the pods who else mariners maybe yeah, they get bad luck Rays yeah, it's pods and Rays okay pods and Rays and maybe mariners

Yeah, okay great sports down alright, so my World series pick is I'm gonna have I Won't pick the Cubs. They're already own one, so they might just stink. They got a hole to climb out of. I'm going to say, I'm going to take the Orioles over the Dodgers. OK, you took half mine.

I've been on the Orioles for the last three years, and I'm just going to stay on the Orioles. You took half mine. They've got good vibes for the Orioles this year. Oh, yeah. New owner. By the way. And the old owner died. That's true. Did you know that their new owner owns the Magna Carta?

I was watching the game today and they had the owner up in the box. They were interviewing him during the game. This dude bought the Magna Carta. Can you explain to Hank what the Magna Carta is for everyone? Yeah, sure. Hank doesn't understand. So the Magna Carta is a document that was signed in England that limits the power of the king. So it was like, yeah, we still have a king, but he's not controlling everybody anymore. That was the Declaration of Independence. So the owner said the Declaration of the Constitution was based off the Magna Carta. So this is like the OG Declaration of Independence. I'd rather have the declaration of independence, Nicholas Cage style. Yeah, this dude is actually national treasure. Yeah. But yeah. How do you own that, Dizzy?

I don't know. He's just like a very rich Ravel. He's a very, yeah, very rich person who owns everything else. And he's like, you know what I need? The Magna Carta. That feels like something that should be in a museum. Now you sound like Indiana Jones, but yeah.

Yeah. It's a Jay--z song, too I don't know if who was first jay-z might be on the hot seat next up. Holy grail get both of them No, that's the name of the song what Magna Carta. Holy grail. No way. Yeah, that's crazy I just accidentally said that and didn't actually know it Damn, you don't make him feel dumb. It's wild sorry Hank, but yeah, this motherfucker bought the Magna Carta Anyways, my pick is the Orioles, and then I'm gonna go. You can't, I already took them.

I wanted the Orioles. I already took them. You told Hank to go first, and then you went out of nowhere. You can't take them. That's the pattern of the show, is Hank gives his pick, and then I give mine, and then you give yours. Sorry, so pick someone else besides Orioles. I have the Baltimore Orioles.

Nope. And then I have. It's my pick. Then I have the Atlanta Braves. You gotta pick someone else besides Orioles. You can do Rangers again. No, you had the Rangers last year. No I've had the Orioles for three straight years. Oh, I have I have the Orioles No, that doesn't count. Why not find someone else in the AL? Can I get a backup on this? We usually gotta have Hank no, but we got to have as many cats you jump the gun. It is true You but you have this respect. I did I gave four no you have to give an actual pick

You just said a bet you made all right pods over Raise I should I should said oriole Perfect spot there god damn it do it again Hank pods overx. No you idiot. Max what's your pick? Philly's over Orioles. Okay. Max has the Orioles. Alright fine. Max has the Orioles. Jake what's your pick? Yankees over Braves. Okay. Okay. I'll go Rangers over Dodgers. Alright. Alright. I got the Orioles over Braves. No you can't. Max has the Orioles now. I got the I got the Orioles over. Oh, you can't Max has your eels now at the Orioles Come on respect it. We all have got different teams now. I gave up the Orioles. Okay. All right. I'm gonna go with the Yankees losing. No

Jake is no he can do that. Oh, yeah Okay, I have the Orioles losing. Okay to the Braves. Got it. No, he has the Orioles losing okay to the Braves got it. No, he has your oils losing He is Phillies over Orioles. Yeah, you know Orioles winning. You know, you can't have them losing either Yeah, you can't have them losing you can't have the Orioles. Okay. I have a strike I think there's gonna be a strike and nobody's gonna win. How about that? No World Series vacated I want the Orioles to win now so bad so that max can get credit for it Even though he has him losing in the World Series. All credit to Max.

That would actually rock if the Orioles won the World Series. Over the Phillies? And Max had them losing the World Series. Oh, god damn it. I might do an exact future Orioles over Phillies. Imagine that. This would be a great clip. All right, what else? Anything else going on in the sports world before we watch Hank try to drink out of this? Yeah. Major league baseball, big cat and I have decided to fade the athletics every single game. So we're putting a unit on the athletics. Every time they play 162 times a year, we're betting against them, wake up, bet against the athletics, sleep, profit, repeat. That's the strategy. Minus one and a half.

Minus one and a half every single game. They might be favored. They were favored for three games last year. They went one and two in those games, which is, it's so sad to say that out loud. Plus 120 tomorrow. Plus 120 tomorrow. We're in right now.

So it hit in day one, so we're up on the year. We hate John Fisher. Fuck John Fisher. The guy's a piece of shit shit and he's ruined the team. He's made them unwatchable as a big fuck you to the Oakland fans. He's trying to move the team to Las Vegas. Vegas doesn't even really want them that bad. Nope.

So he's a real piece of shit. He's my new Dan Snyder. I want that guy gone. And if you happen to be a listener in Las Vegas, there's an act right now. It's a bill that I think they're putting forward called the schools over stadiums Alliance which is basically the billionaires should pay for their own fucking Stadium Act I like this to try to not give him the 380 million dollars I don't know anything about Las Vegas politics or what else is in the bill but I will endorse voting against giving

John Fisher the 380 million dollar act I mean getting 380 in Vegas can't be hard You don't think so. No, I think Bruno Mars probably tough, right? Oh, no, he got 50, right? All he needs to do is go to the tunnel of chaos. Yeah Dana White's got him hooked up in no time. Oh, did you see Sage Steele call him Joe Rogan? Yeah, so we should talk for every interview that we have from now on We should just open it up with what's Joe Rogan's dream Yeah, what's your own dream that I my skin crawled because we've made mistakes as interviewers But I don't think we've ever done that. I don't think we've ever

Accidentally interviewed the wrong person. Have we know that one time the guy called up pretend to be Mike leach. Yeah, and also Dr. James Andrews, we got completely bamboozled. I thought it was the surgeon I didn't know it was a professor. We ever done that I did remember I told I asked for tries college basketball player something Randy Moss, I think Boomer and Geo. Yeah, they did that but they kind of yeah Yeah, they feel like they did that as a bit. I mean, what about what Rich Eisen did this week? Oh, Rich Eisen was that was fucked up. He went after DJ Burns. What'd he say? He's like, when did you put on all the weight? Oh my God. And he was like, excuse me, sir. Cause he's so polite. Like, do you think that we didn't want to ask DJ Burns that? But I would never ask Guy that cause

I love DJ Burns. DJ Burns is awesome. The vending machine. Yeah. I want him to win. By the way, we, we signed an NIL deal with DJ Burns. Yeah, sure. Awesome shirt. In the store now. In the store now. And Jack Goukey with DJ burns. Yes, sure awesome shirt in the store now in the store now And Jack Goukey who's here? He watched the games of us on on Thursday night We're gonna do a PMT challenge video, which we got to figure out what we're gonna do I think I've got an idea for it. Okay, I throw it out there Well, Hank's hey told me no. Oh, why'd Hank tell me no no throw it out there. Okay?

Try to steal the Orioles. We're gonna we're gonna play golf with them. Oh no. What's what's the idea? So the idea well Hank doesn't want me to say it. No I want you to say it. Well we're gonna make the video anyway so we might as well get everyone excited about the video. Yeah. I think having me you and Hank shooting threes on one basket all at the same time while he shoots one person on the other basket. Maybe we could get everybody else involved too, all of us against Goukki. We're going to have a hard time tracking the balls, but I'm down.

Have one guy under the hoop. Yeah. I think maybe an easier way to do that would be, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. I think maybe we do that, but maybe it's like he goes first and he gets a minute, see how many he makes, then we go, so it's a little more, it's less chaotic and we can have people rebounding. Also so that we can watch Gulk, he just get wet from the first. Right, I want to see him shoot. I want to see how wet the man can be.

He also says that we need to have, he needs to have a closeout, so we should also just do a video of us closing out on him. Yeah. Seeing how many he can hit in our eyes. And his face. Yeah. All right, either way, we're going to make a closeout, so we should also just do a video of us closing out on him. Yeah. Seeing how many he can hit in our eyes. And his face. Yeah. All right, either way, we're going to make a great video. All right, Hank, you want to try it?

Yeah. All right, here we go. Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank, Hank. Also sorry to Michigan State fans, we didn't realize that you all are trying to get Tom Izzo to wear a suit again. If we had known, we would have asked him, but I talked to someone in Michigan State afterwards and Tommy's I said why would I wear a suit I can dress comfortably. Oh Hank. Oh oh that's cold. Nice word. What was that an eighth of a beer. Well it doesn't take up doesn't take a full beer but if you hold it sideways. Wait Max Max has you. He's got

you. The real let a real man do this. Let a real man come in. Now he's going to hold it for you. Oh, you almost say shit. Come on Max. You hold it up. You hold it up. And there you go. Pour it.

Oh, there we go. Let's not stand in front of the camera. Don't stand in front of the camera. Max. Oh, it's so cold. I told you on Hank. Oh, the ice is cold. Yeah. Oh no. Your hands. Oh, it's so cold. I told you on Hank. Oh, the ice is cold. Yeah. Oh no. Your hands.

Oh my God. Hank, this is now sounds like a five year old. You're making a mess of this. I saw Jesus Hank. The ice is so cold. Oh, the ice is cold. Max. The ice is cold on my little lips. My whips are freezing. He's sucking it down. Way to go, Hank. Good job. All right. That was not my best. Let's kick it to ourselves with Tom is a awesome, awesome interview with Tom is Oh, and we will do a full baseball preview. Maybe we'll have our friend, Jared Kravis or someone else. Come on. Talk to us about baseball. We have to get Jeff passing on. Yeah. Open invite. He's he's I like listening to him or Karkchin. I just love hearing Karkchin's voice Jeff Bassen Come on. Pardon my take. We'd love to have you on. All right, let's keep ourselves and Tom is

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you all the success you've had in your career? You know, guys, that's, that's a million dollar question. I don't know why I've had success. I've had success because of good players. I've had success because when we started this whole thing out many, many years ago with Mateen Cleaves and Morris Peterson's and Jason Rich, you know, that, that five year stretch, you know, they were like you guys when you started your show, you know, everybody's all in your this and that. And I've been lucky here. I got alums like Magic Johnson and Greg Kelser. I got

guys like the Vincent brothers. I got guys like Steve Smith, who Sean Ressbert. Those guys kind of caught fire with our group right away. And we started having reunions every year. And those reunions brought excitement. And what they did is, you know, magic was about winning championships. Cleaves was about winning championships, you know, Draymond, you know, winning championships and it just kind of grew. And so now when March comes, I mean, most people think I do nothing until March and then I coach a little bit in March. This year I did a lot before March and I did nothing in March. But I think that what you do is you realize it's one and done.

And when those players call back to our current players and say, you know what month it is, it's March, and it matters. And there's no my bads anymore and there's no mistakes. So I get a help from a lot of my great alums. And I probably get too much credit for what I do. They deserve the credit for what they do and what they did when they were here. Yeah, it's January, February is oh, you've heard that nickname before.

Don't you wish it was January, February, March is oh, yeah, you know what? I like that better. Yeah. I think I'm going to try to reinvent that, but I better get off my dead butt and get it done because I would rather be playing in April. But we've had some good runs. We've had some highs and lows. But through it all, I think around here, it's important to everybody.

Our fans and our alums, great. That's normal. That's everywhere. But our former players, I think, separates us, makes it special the way they call back. I mean, Irvin called when we were playing against an Earth Carolina. You know, I got the pool ready for you guys to come out here.

We're all set. You know, let's win this game. And I relay those things. Or sometimes they'll FaceTime, I will do it in a meeting room. It's pretty cool. And it's one of the things that staying at the same place for a long time, and having some of those great players, but the players do deserve the credit, guys, I don't say that humbly. I say

that honestly, but but okay, so you are being humble. And I appreciate your humbleness, but in terms of the tournament in the coaching X's and O's, there are definitely coaches that are able to get the most out of their team come this time of year and some that fall short. You've always been a most out of your team guy. The quick turnaround, that's always what I'm curious about when you have to play a Thursday then a Saturday and you're scouting a team that you've never seen before and they play

in a different conference. What is it that you do that's so different that has been able to put your team in these situations where they've had success? Because that I think is a very difficult, unique aspect of March Madness, having to scout a team in 24 hours and be like, all right, we got to roll out and play. I will say that that's pretty good of you guys that that is one thing we have done pretty well here And the reason we've done it pretty well is my first year in the tournament. We played Eastern Michigan in my first tournament I think Mateen Cleaves and Peterson those guys that won it were sophomores I had a good staff Tom Crane Brian Gregory Stan Heath stands been in the pros

You know those other two guys have coached at major colleges. And we sat down and said, Oh my God, if we beat Eastern, you know, it was just, let's win a game. That's all we want to do is win a game. Then I learned the Mike Sheshevsky rule. You got to win the weekend. Yeah. And once you got to win the weekend, cause the game isn't good enough anymore.

Nobody cares if you win one game. Then you got to start preparing ahead of time for the weekend. And what we did that weekend, is we went from playing Eastern Michigan to Princeton. And Princeton was really good. They ran all that back door stuff and it was a hard prep. And we said, how are we gonna get this through to our guys? So we took these 20 minute segments.

And so we got home that night at one o'clock in the morning. I said, we're gonna watch 20 minutes of film so that they go to bed dreaming about Princeton. We got up in the morning, we had breakfast. We had like 15 minutes before breakfast, breakfast 15 minutes after. And we'd have a walkthrough. We'd have 15 minutes of walkthrough. Then we'd have lunch. Then another, you know. So I tried to divide it up knowing that the tension span, especially in this pressure-packed time, and I think of all the things we've done, the Princeton game helped kind of my philosophy, our philosophy, and so now we stole something from Mike and Duke. Any weekend we go, we try to win the weekend,

which means I got a couple of assistants working on the other two teams that we could play and we might not even get there. Right. Yeah. The thing is, yeah, this, uh, this 15, 20 minute segments I think has really helped us. So yeah. You mentioned coach K I know that you guys are pretty close to you guys. You share everything with each other or there are things where you want to keep some things to yourself and not not let the other guy know. Man you know Mike you didn't share anything with me. I stole what I got. I just I heard him say at one time and stole it but he's done such a great job and I look at guys like

Nick Saban you know who I started with here and I pick coaches in different professions that I do admire, that I do respect because what we're all trying to be is consistent. Unfortunately, during the regular season this year, guys, we were consistently inconsistent. But when you look for it over my career, I think we've been pretty consistent. I just thought when I heard that from Mike, you know, we got to win the weekend. So it made sense. Yeah. After we won our first, once we got through that first weekend, that first year when North Carolina beat us in the Sweet 16, you know, after that it was went to a final four, then we won the national championship. Then nobody cared if you won a game in the tournament. All anybody cared

is did you advance? Yeah. So that's if you won a game in the tournament. All anybody cared is did you advance? Yeah. So that's when the weekend and prepare for the weekend. And some people would say, well, you're preparing for a team that you might play two games from now. You're not putting enough into the game you're playing. Well, we did, but we also prepared for that next. And I think that's all you win the weekend.

Who would you say would be the toughest types of teams to prepare for? Well, like a Princeton was very difficult to prepare for. Like if I was playing in this tournament now, Purdue would be a different, harder team to play for. They got a monster in there. He's not even human. I mean, he's a guy, Zach is, he's an incredible size, but he's a very good athlete in that. And Matt Painter does such a good job of getting him to ball 9,000 different ways. That it's a tough prep. A tough prep would be a team like Kentucky in the past when Patino was there and they're pressing the whole game.

Now you don't run into many presses and all of a sudden it happened to us. Florida with Billy Donovan, we didn't run up to already any teams that pressed. We played Wisconsin to like a 52-48 game, you know, because back then Dick Bennett, it was slow down and that we had to play that style. And then everybody said, well, two days later, you're going to play Florida. And I said, great, we want to go up and down. They pressed the whole game. We attacked it. You know, we beat them 89 to 70 or something, you know? So I think that was another key thing with our teams. We could be versatile. We could play smash mouth. We could play race horse.

Yeah. I think the best teams I had could do both. And you need that when you get into tournament play and you don't know who you're going to be playing. Yeah. So I went to Wisconsin. I'm a Badger. So I've not, I've, I've not liked Michigan state for a very long time. Question for you, who do you think the player that you coached was most hated by other teams? Cause I have an answer. I have a guy that I hated so much that every time I saw him on TV, my blood would boil. Who do you think that was free for like, who do you think most like when you, when you came out into an opposing stadium, you're like, Oh man, they really hate this guy.

Yeah. Well they didn't treat, uh, Cleves very good in Madison, but I don't think they treated Draymond very good, but, uh, that's because, you know, those were the better players. I, you know, I had a lot of players that got booted at a lot of places. So give me the answer. Okay. My answer is one, one, so easy. I hated, hated, hated Paul Davis.

I hated that guy. God damn it. Did I hate that guy? You know, Paul was a funny guy because he wasn't, you know, the elitist of elite players, like some of those other guys, but he had that knack around them kind of like, uh, not as good, but kind of like the kid everybody hates from, from Duke. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's just like something, Oh, back then. Yeah. Yeah. Late and JJ. Yes. Later. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Well, you guys are on top of your stuff. Yeah. I hated Paul Davis.

And you're right. It was more about the fact that like he just always had a knack for like the big rebound or the big play. And it's like, God damn it. Do I hate this guy? But it makes sports fun. The hate is fun. That's what I love about it. You get these rivalries and we did have some great rivalries. Yeah. Always there. And, and both did a great job too. And it was kind of really fun to both be in because, you know, you hate your rivalries, you hate them. And then what hate turns into when it goes long enough is total respect. Yeah.

Yeah. You know what I mean? It goes to total respect because I mean, Bo was here his first trip here. I think he broke our 54 game home winning streak. So all of our people hated Wisconsin and then we both got so good. And then in 15, we're both in the final four. And we found out when we got to the Indianapolis, we were both pulling for each other, you know, and now I'm friends with Bo.

I called him when I went out to California, you know, because you respect people that challenge you every day if you're really good. That's what you need. And they do it the right way. And Wisconsin, Greg Gard is a good friend. They've always done it the right way. Yeah. Yeah.

You don't hate nobody. So you wouldn't hate somebody if they weren't a challenge for you, right? Yeah. So it's like a sign of respect. And I think a little bit of hate is actually good in sports. Coach, I got a tough question to ask you because you've been known as being a fiery guy. You've been called the fifth angriest coach in college basketball. They did a poll, but you're also known as a teddy bear. I read an article about

you recently that said that you were actually a teddy bear. So are you a nice guy? Are you a teddy bear? Are you angry? You know, yeah, I'm an Italian guy that I wear my emotions on my sleeve. And if you look at some of the antics on TV, it's just emotion, you know, and I don't, I always do it on purpose, but I can see where someone would think I was angry. If you talk to most of my guys, the time I spend with them, how much I care about them, I think I'd be a double teddy bear, you know? But what I think the big key is nowadays that we're really all having trouble with is how do you be demanding and tough enough to hold people accountable and yet caring and understanding enough to let them know that you care? Because nobody cares how much you know, they know how much you care kind of theory.

And I think the only way you do that is spend time. So part of me doesn't care what most people outside think. What I care about is the reunions that we have. Does everybody come back? Does everybody call in in March? Does all those things happen? If those things are happening, I think I've done it right. But I can see where people,

and people take things wrong, you know? I mean, the guy makes the same mistake seven times. What am I gonna say? Hey, Johnny, would you please do it right this time? You wouldn't do that with your own kids. And sometimes I get accused of that, but I know this. I love my guys. I spent a lot of time with them. They've done a lot

for me and I'm probably deserving of being angry sometimes. Yeah. I've always loved the specific part of your coaching career where if, you know, we live in a different day and age now, there'll be like a clip where Tom Izzo reams out a player, Tom Izzo grabs a player and everyone will flip out and be like, you can't coach like this. And then almost immediately all of the guys that you coached will come to your defense. And it's like, this, this is what, this is who we should be listening to the guys that were with him and know his coaching sound, know who he is as a person. And it's like, shut, shut the hell up. Like he's, he's coaching a certain way. So that has to make you feel great though. When all your guys like always come to your defense almost immediately

dream on. If you, if you grab a player dream on be like, that's that guy and coach have a relationship that none of you can speak on. That has to feel great. Even Charles Berkeley stuck up for me on one. I, you know, cause I think, you know, yeah, you can't grab players anymore. You can't. Why? You know, I can hug them. Right. Why can't I grab them if I if they made the same mistake nine times? If you think that any coach, Nick Saban, who was here with me, you think any coach that

I guess, Pat Riley, that is more, you know, more volatile, John Thompson, that they just do that on one or two or three mistakes, you know, more volatile, John Thompson, um, that they just do that on one or two or three mistakes. You know, some of it, they do it because I know where that kid wants to go. Right. He wants, he wants to win a championship and get to the NBA. And you know what? I do the same thing in school. If, if he wants his degree and he's doing things that make that hard, I'm gonna get on them there too. And what I think that I hope I say this right, I'm not phony. Yeah, what you see is what you get. And they see it from the day they come here. So there's no surprises. Yeah. And, and by the way, no surprises. Yeah. And, and by the way, it has been dialed back a lot because, because our society is so damn soft that like you say, they look, you look at you getting mad

at a guy. You could even look at him wrong and somebody saying something nowadays. Yeah. So it's ridiculous. It's crazy because you are with those guys all the time in your relationship. Like if someone random grabs them, it's like,'s like yeah that's different but it's like the relationship is there it's it's built on something it's completely different than what we're watching in a two second clip. So I yeah I've always had your back in those situations always always stunned me. Now you love coaching rebounding and your teams are always tough. Have you found that it's harder to instill tough hard nose like rebounding your war? Do you still do your wardrobe where you put them in pads, football pads and helmets and just let them go rebound?

Isn't that a great question? My former guys come back. I mean, if you would have saw Matin Cleaves trying to buckle chin straps on guys that are six, nine, that never even knew how to put on a football helmet, you would have laughed. But let me tell you that story. We go to Ohio State first time all year. I think we had 28, 24 games in a row. We had won the rebound battle. We lose it. A couple of players go off on a couple other players in the locker room. That's not what we do here. And I said, wow, nothing better than a player coach team. Right guys? So I get back, I call Saban. I said, listen, I need 12 sets of football gear

practice tomorrow. He goes, huh? I said, can I get them? Yeah, sure. Call my equipment guy. I get them. So last 20 minutes of practice, we're gonna do our little wardrobe.

So I said, since we're getting soft and we don't wanna to get anybody hurt, we'll put on football pads. That way you can't get hurt. So we did. And I was mad. I wanted it to be a, they had so much fun that it became all we talked about.

And then we talked about it for five years later and 10 years later. And so now the guys will say, coach, bring out the guys will say, coach, bring out the football badge. You know, rebound is good. Can't do that, man. I'd get sued nowadays. I can't do that anymore. So it's, uh, it's a shame, you know, that, because those guys had a riot doing it. And nobody got hurt of course, cause you're in full pads, helmets. It was, uh, it was one of the great things you get to do.

It was a memory making moment. And I'm afraid that our society is getting so screwed up. We don't have as many memory making moments. Yeah. And there were some guys that copied me. There were some guys that called me, asked me what I do. But those same guys call me now and we're not rebounding as well. They said, do you do that? I go, no.

Trying for other things. I don't want to. I don't want to, I don't want to get killed. You know, the sad part is back then, you know, of course we videotaped every practice. Hell, I had to get rid of that video. I said, somebody will, somebody will sue me later on. So, and now when we have reunions, all the players want to see that. That's all they want to talk about. Yeah. I'd love to see that film. Yeah. Sounds like a great time. I kind of want to do it. We should actually do that in the

office. Yeah, we should. We should do the rebounding. Yeah. So, so what's, explain the drill to us so that we can recreate it here. Yeah. There's, there's five guys that are right into the basket and five guys around the three point line and a coach will throw it up and the two shall meet, you know,

find the ball and go rebound it, you know, guys, if there's one thing that has been the hardest part of coaching now, and I think you're seeing this, um, when I give, I give Kelvin Sampson, who by the way, he sat here, I took his spot. He was a GA for jet. He'd go and Kelvin is his teams are might be the toughest teams in college basketball right now. I don't know, you know, he's at Houston. So maybe he's just coming on the scene. I don't know what he does every day,

but it's hard to make teams tougher because our society is so soft, you know? And you say, well, that's barbaric. They used to say we were a football team on hardwood. I always took that as a compliment. Yeah. That was a great compliment, but the game is getting more physical again, because I think they're letting it go more, but players aren't necessarily more physical except Houston. Yeah. They're the most physical team I think in, uh, in the tournament. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned coach Saban and now you guys spent time there together. Did you did you know when Nick Saban got there

like this guy this guy is going to be great. You know when Nick came here as an assistant I came here as I said it was in 87 and and Belichick came here a couple of times to work the camp and it was just and Nick's house was not far from mine. And, uh, you know, listening to Belichick, you know, the one time I went over there and I knew Nick was going to be something good. And then he left to go to the Houston Oilers. Then he went to Toledo and then he went back with Belichick at Cleveland. And then I got the job here. And then six months later, Nick got the head job here so we reunited and we're

here five years together and did I ever think he'd be what he is? No, no. Is it incredible what he's done? It is incredible. You can talk about having good players. A lot of people have good players and don't get it done. He is to me, um, one of the greatest coaches in any sport. And I mean that with respect, admiration and knowledge. Yeah. You know, I know what I'm talking about. Um, and he was, I mean, you're talking about demanding, um, he probably did the opposite as I did.

I put football pads on my guys to play. He probably put his guys in jocks and t-shirts and said, now go tackle each other. He probably went the opposite. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let's get you toughened up by just hitting each other with the pads on. Yeah.

Yeah. I got a weird question, coach. Is there a date or maybe even a year that you can remember your voice the last time you had your voice fully and it wasn't horse? You know, that's another thing that we should talk about. You know, everybody thinks it's yelling at players, right? That's what everybody says. You're yelling at players. The truth is it's yelling at my wife. No, that's not the truth.

But the real truth is usually when it gets in the season, especially the tournament, I don't sleep at all. You don't sleep much. Why would you sleep? That's for death. You got a tournament to win. Yeah.

And when I don't sleep, my voice goes, I swear to God, it's not your players. I get blamed for so many things that aren't true. Now some of them are true, but, um, it's not that at all. It's, it's when I lose sleep or I don't sleep well, like even now, you don't sleep well now, how could you sleep? Well, you don't know who you got, who's in the portal and who you're paying and who's going on. But right now, um, it'll start coming back a little bit. I think I got a perpetual, uh, horse voice. How's that? Yeah. It's an all your horse voice

hall of famer. There's like, it's just, it's always there. A few coaches up on that pedestal. There's you doc rivers. I would actually say Kelvin Sampson. He's he's on that list too. Yeah. Doc rivers. I work with doc and the goodwill games. I love doc. He's, he's great too. So yeah. Yeah. The horse voice hall of fame. So, uh, so coach, what is it? What is it about Italians that you think makes great basketball coaches? Cause there's, there's a lot of them. Like the big East has been filled with Italians for as long as I can remember. But even still to this day, we've got a lot of good Italian coaches. What is it about being Italian that makes you a good bass or helps you if you have the background

knowledge to be a great basketball coach? You know, the funny part of that is, as you know, most Italians are not gifted with height. Yeah. Yeah. So we should, we should be better football coach, you know, Calipari, Patino, you know, Raleigh Massimino, you know, that we're all regular normal guys like I think you guys, but I don't know what it is. You know, I do think one thing that has helped me and my father did it, but my grandfather did it. You know, when you were an immigrant, like they were coming in, I mean, you were in a working man's world. You know,

you just worked your way. You didn't know anything else. You were my family were working in the mines or working here and there. And so I think work ethic helps you become successful in whatever you decide to do. And I think the Italian helps you become successful in whatever you decide to do. And I think the Italian guys I know, their fathers or grandfathers, we're all in that. That doesn't mean other nationalities aren't either. You just asked me a question. That's the only dumb answer I can come up with.

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keep them less crazy. I've always been of the approach that Draymond you need one of those guys on your team that plays on the edge and that every now and then going over the edge is actually not a bad thing because it gives your team that little bit of shit to them that you need to win games. But are you ever do you ever have a conversation with them? You're like hey listen you're you're unbelievable player but but yeah, maybe don't go after everyone all the time. Yeah.

And I talked to Steve Kerr and I talked to Bob Meyer, the GM and you know, people like myself in a way, I mean, anybody that is more passionate, sometimes we do go over the edge a little bit, you know, it's, uh, but if you ask them what they want to trade them, I don't think they'd ever want to trade them. Right. He, he is one of the all time. I mean, I am the luckiest human being on the planet. You know, I coach my Mateen Cleaves and, and I coached Draymond Green. And I did not coach but he's from here. And he's still around a lot in Magic Johnson. And there's a lot of great players, but I'm not sure there's as many great winners. Who

can take average teams or good teams and be the difference in winning? You know, a lot of people make great plays. How many people make winning plays? Like, Greymon's tossed back to Steph and that illegal screening kind of sometimes sets and moves a little bit. Those are winning plays and he didn't even take the shot. And I think that's what's not appreciated.

The toughness, the rebounding, that he can guard a LeBron and he can guard a seven footer. You know, Draymond is, do I wish once in a while? Yeah, he probably wishes once in a while I wouldn't be like I am, you know, but would I trade him for the world? No. And by the way, I didn't keep him under wraps. I just, I just, that was back in the day when huddles weren't filmed. Yeah.

Because he was still as crazy in those huddles. It's just that nobody got to see was back in the day when huddles weren't filmed. Yeah. Cause he was still, it's crazy in those huddles. It's just that nobody got to see him back then, you know? But, yeah, no, but I, I absolutely love him. He's, he's a versatile player. He is, you know, those guys that say they don't care. The only thing he cared about was rebounding. And when he had nine, cause he always wanted to double, double, he knew he had nine. And he'd come to the bench and in the huddle, he'd say, not one of you guys grabbed the next

rebound, I'm getting it. Just cut your guy out. I'm getting it. We're in a free throw situation. I'm getting it. And I would sit there and say, is that selfish? Hell no, I loved it. I thought that was absolutely awesome. And that's Draymond. You know, he's, he put winning, he puts winning above scoring, even rebounding assists more than I think any player I've ever coached. You know, it was guys like him or Cleaves. They'd come into the locker room, never look at the stat sheet. They just look at the W or the L. Yeah. And people can say that and not a lot of people that do it. Yeah. Trevon cares, which is nice. Like you do want a person that cares that deeply about

winning on your team. I think it was John Thompson, big John Thompson said at one point, like one guy like that on your team, you can win a championship. Two guys like that, you might get fired. Yeah. You know, and I mean, I'm not saying there's times I don't call him and say, Dre, what are we doing? You know? And, and once in a while he'll even agree with me. Not very often, but once in a while. But, but, you know, I, I really, I don't think as good as Steph and Clay and all the other guys, I don't think they would have won the championships without them. No, definitely not.

All the little dirty work that makes a difference in the end. And, uh, and for that, uh, I know one thing, if you had eligibility left, I take them back. I deal with, you know, there's, there's always going to be an issue or two. And do I wish, like, do I wish last night he wouldn't have got thrown out of the game. Yeah, I wish he wouldn't have got thrown out of the game. But I don't know everything that happened in the game either. There were some things back in the day that happened with LeBron and that I'm not sure we're all very much fault either, you know, but you get an image. It's like being the fifth angriest guy or whatever you call it. Right. You get an image and then it precedes you. And that's not I

was right either. I also think Draymond like some nights he's just like I want to hit the showers early. That felt like one of those nights. He's like I'm going to want to. I haven't done any of this with you guys yet. I disagree with you. I did not know many nights and he doesn't want to play all 48. I don't know. Last night last night was like four minutes. He was like I'm done. So I, I would agree with you most of the time, but last night I was like, he really just wants to go home. My theory is that he wants to, sometimes he wants things to talk about on his podcast. So he'll do stuff on the game and then he'll be like, people are going to

definitely listen to my podcast tomorrow. If I'm talking about getting kicked out. Yeah. It definitely smart guys. I hope not, but you might be right. So, so, and yeah, I, I am a big Draymond fan. I think his basketball IQ is so off the charts that people, they don't realize what he's able to do without actually like the, where the spacing and in defensively being like a coach. Who else though, have you coached that you would say is underrated that people don't fully realize how talented he was, whether it be actual

stats or on the floor being a general for you. Well, Cleaves was the best I had. I mean, because he, you know, Irvin Magic said this, great players play great, but elite players make other players play great. And that is the true mark of an elite player to me. Who can make other people around them better than they actually are? Cleaves was phenomenal at that. He was very good at that. I mean, Greymont, when he was here, did some of that. I had a kid named Valentine who was pretty good at that. Believe it or not, in a whole different way, a whole different guy, Cassius Winston,

I mean, he wouldn't even take a shot for a half, he'd just be making everybody else better. And then I say, Okay, can, can we win the game now? You know, can you make some shots? Yeah. That at a very high level, and yet wasn't the gifted athlete, he wasn't six, five, he, you know, maybe underappreciated. And, and then, you know, even a guy like Jason Richardson, believe it or not, who had this gifted athleticism that he was a very humble and very caring guy that, I mean, he didn't start his freshman year and that's like un-American not to start a guy that was that good. But it was because of the team we had and Zach Randolph went through the same thing and

everybody said this and that about Zach. I absolutely loved having Zach. I mean, he was really good and a really good teammate. And you know, that's maybe guys what we don't judge people on enough. How hard they play, what they do to make others better, and what kind of teammate are they? I would promise you, and I don't know, I don't, I'm not with the organization, I'm betting that he's in a, Draymond's an incredible teammate.

You know, he's an incredible teammate that's making a name for himself, Jaren Jackson, just an incredible teammate and good guy and a very good player. Yeah. Coach, your relationship with the media has been kind of interesting over the years. On this show, I think it was back in 2016, we said at some point the media is going to turn a little bit on Tom Izzo. And you know, the media, it's like a big cycle. It's like a pendulum that swings back and forth. At some point you're like, okay, this coach is underrated. And then once you start winning enough, if you haven't won enough recently,

they say Tom Izzo is overrated. Now you might be back to being underrated again. So can you judge yourself? Are you overrated or underrated as a head coach? Well, I think you're always overrated because whether we like it or not, and again, you can say humility, it's not humility. Players play the game, players play the game and

you gotta have good players and you gotta have a good culture. And so if I was overrated, if I was underrated, maybe people don't look at the culture you develop. And that takes years and the culture is what is good. But like I haven't been happy. I wasn't happy with our performance. I said right out where we underachieved this year and I said why you know, and I can I can name you seven games that we either led or were right down to the

wire on and we lost and usually you win some of those this year. We didn't we lost them. If you went out if you went a half of of them you win 24 games and you're a four seed and everybody's happy you know but really your team's no better because you only won by a couple of points. And so you know I think I have a good relationship with the media guys most of the time and I'll tell you why it was my old boss Jed Hietzko and I will coach magic and I was a GA on his staff

and it's my second year here. They were talking about firing Judd and uh so I'm reading these articles that's when I read the paper I don't do that anymore but I'm reading these articles they're talking about firing him and once a week we had open for the media. And so the media came, watch practice, and after practice, judge telling his 30 jokes to him, you know, like he always did. He's got his arm around two guys and he's walking across. And I'm ticked off.

I said, coach, that guy just ripped you today once you fired. And I said, what are you doing? You know, and my dumb ass from the UP, I didn't know, you know, what, what was going on. And, and he said, I'm gonna tell you something, if you want to survive in this profession, everybody's got mouse defeat and everybody's got a boss to please. He said, those guys do too. Some of them are good guys that just have to do what they have to do because that's the way it is. And so I've always appreciated that.

If I don't like something somebody says, most of the time I'll call them and say, Hey, you're off based on this. Here's why they might tell me why they think what's getting harder guys is with Twitter. I mean, let's face it, everybody's attacking you or anybody in the media. Yeah. They're attacking them on what they should think and say. And then those guys give into it and then they go to us. I have practice open once a week too. I kept the tradition because I thought that way the media could see.

I don't hide nothing. I never closed my locker room ever ever Never so I think they appreciate that but I appreciate them I just wish that somehow they could understand what's going on each and every day now Because the world has changed a little bit in the last three years Yeah, yeah, I see your perspective and you're talking a little bit about like the N years. In fact, he's quite a bit. Yeah, it's your perspective. And you're talking a little bit about the NIL era and the Portal era of college basketball. Are you going to be in the Portal this offseason?

I might. I might. My wife tried to go in it. And she realized the buyout would have been too high, so she didn't jump it. But it is what it is. I've had feelings about it that I don't jump it, but you know, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, you know, I've had feelings about it that I don't like it.

And I've said it, especially the portal and the reasons why. And yet, you know what? When in Rome, do like the Romans, you know, we don't have a choice. We play with the cards we dealt and I've said this on many of shows and I've said it many times and I won't say a lot about it because it always gets me in trouble but I will

say this at the end of the day the majority of kids players I think are gonna lose out now there'll be a few that it works out for. But the majority, I mean, we're gonna have over 2000 in the in the portal. Yeah. And guys are not going to two and three and even four times. Where are they gonna have to go back to later on? What? Oh, you love Wisconsin? Yeah, you love Wisconsin. If you went to Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State and Northwestern, right? Your career, would you love Wisconsin? Um, I don't know, you know, that's yet to be seen, but I, I honestly believe that, uh, I think a lot of

players are going to make bad decisions and not learn how to fight through some times. I mean, if I told you how many guys would have left here after one year in my career, I'd have to count them on 27 hands. Right. And it's just part of the deal. And now those same guys are my biggest advocates, you know, and had the most fun. So there's always a time to transfer guys. Every place isn't for everybody, but the way we've made it so easy, I think it's

going to be detrimental to the player more than it is the coach and coaches are going to lose their jobs. I mean, but that's okay. Cause as some people say, we make a lot of money and we do, but we have a lot of responsibility and work a lot of hours too. Yeah. I'm hoping, uh, as a diehard fan of college sports, that it's kind of a pendulum swing that, you know, for the longest time, the transfer rules were like bad. They were bad where kids had to sit out a year and like, you could like, they were too restrictive. Then the pendulum is swung where it's too, you know, there's a little too much freedom.

You have to sit out a year. Yeah. Um, but remember now 1% are going to the NBA or NFL. Right. Did you hear me? 1%. That means 99% of the kids need their degrees. So it is a shame that we're punishing a guy by making them go to school a year and sit out and maybe get stronger, maybe get better, maybe get smarter, maybe get ahead academically. And maybe when he's done with four years, he actually graduates. Cuz 90, in basketball, I think it's 96% are never gonna play again. There's 4% basketball they can play in Europe and G League and Canada and football, I guess now there's a new league. So maybe they'll get enough 2% of play, but

most of those kids are never gonna play again. And are we really punishing them by Tell them they got to sit out and get better and get smarter and get their academics on track And I I know some guys that set out for me. I had a kid Morris Peterson That would never been a pro. Yeah, it wasn't in the fifth year. So I understand, you know the modern day I agree with you, but there's unintended consequences to a lot of these things and I'm going to do what they said. I'm done bitching about it. I'm just going to do my job, but I'm just telling you the majority of kids aren't going to have a place to go to. They transferred three and four times.

And we agree because I actually think the pendulum swung too far where it's now too easy and guys are the first moment of hardship. They're like, I'm out. There's, I'm hoping that we'll find a balance somewhere in the next few years where we'll kind of level back to a spot where people can have the freedom of movement, but there's also a lot more guys staying, sticking it out and it's better for the school. It's better for the fans. It's better for the player. Like I do think that there is that middle ground that we hopefully will find. Yeah, like I think if a coach leaves, you know, that a player should be able to, I mean, you know, you'd like to say they go for this school, but you know, I understand that part.

And yet, don't think like some people that coaches can just leave when they want either. I mean, I've had my times when I was offered jobs that I would have cost me seven, $8 million to buy out, you know? So I mean, it's, it's kind of, I don't know. And, and, you know, I struggle with that too, when people say, well, coach can leave. Well, like I put in 40 years here. Right. Should you be able to do something different than somebody that just started it yesterday? I mean, to me you should, but yeah, but I ain't arguing it no more yesterday. I mean, to me you should. But I ain't arguing it no more guys. I've lost that battle. That train has left.

Yeah. You're adapting. I'm just trying to do my job. Yeah, you're adapting. All right. So coach, this has been awesome. I have one last question. It's a rollback question. RHOPACK.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Queues of polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com. Talking about this tournament, I know we're going to run this tomorrow. I know we're going to run this tomorrow. So four of the sweet 16 games already been played. But from your perspective you played a lot of these teams. You obviously played Purdue a bunch. You I

think you played Alabama last year. You played Arizona this year Duke this year. Like who do you think is the is the is the team that you're looking at. You're like this team has everything and they're they're playing the ball that will get them to the final four and to cut the nuts down. Well we just played North Carolina too and I was impressed with some of the pieces they have and I don't want to be prejudiced to produce since they're in the league but when you got a center and that Smith kid has really played well and then they got shooters like lawyer and Gillis has become a very good shooter. I have not seen

Houston in person. I know Kelvin and I know I seen some of their personnel and Anybody that's as tough as that. I think has a chance. We played Arizona early. We played Duke early. We played Illinois is another team that has actually come on. But I think Purdue has the best chance because of what happened to them last year. They've got the best rallying point and they've got a player of the year. and to deal with him on a second day is hard. It'd be interesting to see how they do when they play tonight or tomorrow night. I guess it is. They got Gonzaga tomorrow night, I think. But I, you know, I think if

I looked at four or five teams, Carolina has got to be one of them. Arizona's got to be Purdue's got to be, it sounds like it's just the one produced. Got to be it sounds like it just the one seeds. Who would be in Yukon? Yukon's just been rolling. Yeah, you can right now. From what I've seen is the best overall team. And it'll be a hell of a battle if it's them in Purdue. And then you take a Houston, I mean, they can beat you different ways. They can score a lot of points or they could beat you 39, 35. I swear they can.

I mean, they can tighten the screws down. And so those would be the top five or six teams. That doesn't mean a team like Alabama who shoots 100 threes might be hot and win a game. That doesn't mean a team like Alabama who shoots 100 threes might be hot and win a game. That doesn't mean that Gonzaga and the job Mark few has done couldn't work out. You know, I don't know. There's a lot of there's a right now the one thing I do know about this tournament the last two three years. Flip a coin. Yeah, something strange is going to happen. Yeah, probably, probably

teams that you thought would get out of tonight aren't going to get out teams that tomorrow night aren't going to get out. And yet some years it's chalk and everybody gets there. You know, I think when you were in the final four with three ones and a two, that's all on, you know, we've been a seven and been in the final four. So I don't know guys, I'm not the expert. I'm not gambling on it, but you guys can be and you guys have been great. I appreciate you having me on. I maybe, uh, who knows? Maybe we'll do it again as the tournament goes since, since I have some unfortunate off time right now. Yeah. And we have to have you next time you're in Chicago. We'd love to have you come by the office because we have a full court basketball court. We'd actually would be great if you,

if you took us through the wardrobe. That's what we should do. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you can do it with us. We'll sign a waiver. Yeah. You want, you want, you'll sign a waiver. I can, I can have the bear send over some football pads. We'll get at it a little bit. I know my son's a big fan of yours, so I'll make sure that I bring him with me and we'll do that. And you guys have a great day, a good tournament and congratulations to your son for the three points. That was an all time moment. That was an all time moment. I mean, that was what I love about college basketball. Like you get guys who they do work and they, you know, they're with the team and they're, they're putting in work. They're not getting the time. And yeah, that was really cool. We also next year you'll you'll be part of birthday week because you

and I share a birthday and PFT is the day after us. So well yeah we'll have you come out and do it would be an all time visual because you can you can run the wardrobe. We're not soft coach. Yeah we're tough. I love it. I've been blogging for 15 years. I got calluses. Yeah. Yeah. Badgers man, you know, after a middle of the year slumped there, but they didn't really came on at the end. I thought they were going to make a run and they run into the same team that we did the first year. Yep. JMU who was pretty good team. Pretty great team. That's my, that's my team coach. I refra I held myself back for making a JMU comment. I'm a JMU guy. Yeah. Let me tell you, my nephew was on the staff there. That

shows you how dumb I am. I played them and got beat. You know what Thanksgiving meal's going to be like throwing knives at my son. I love it. I love it. It was a great game for me. Yeah. Well, they were good. Yeah. They were really good. Yeah. I mean, everybody thought ours was a fluke until they won about 30 some games Yeah, now you lost your coach. He went in the portal. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. That's it That's life as a mid-major though. You got a you're you're a great stepping stone, but being a stepping stone kind of sucks sometimes Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, you're great. Thank you so much Hopefully we see in person next year when you're coming through Chicago. Appreciate the time, coach.

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I actually have a reverse Fire Fest. There's no specific Fire Fest stick out. An Ice Fest? An Ice Fest. There's no specific fire fest stick out. An ice fest? An ice fest. There's a bit of that going around. Just a great sign for the spring and summer. It happened twice this week, where I've found sunglasses from last summer in old pair of coats. That's huge.

That's huge. One wouldn't be notable, but it happened twice, basically, in the same week, where I put on a windbreaker, reached in the pocket, found a pair of sunglasses I thought was gone forever. That's great. It is that time of year where you can, you go back to like the light windbreakers and you're in like a time portal. You find like a time capsule back to, I guess early last fall.

You realize how young and dumb and stupid you were. So yeah, reverse firefight. There's nothing better than finding sunglasses because you just, when you, once you, once a pair goes away, you're like, I'll never see these again. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't know where they went, but you can't remember the last time you wore them. My problem with sunglasses too is I always try to have two or three pair in rotation.

But then you don't treat them like they're the most important thing. So then you get down to having none. I had three. I knew I lost one. I knew I left one in Nashville after a bachelor party like I knew those were gone for that was a good bachelor party for you good bachelor party for me and then the other two I just didn't know you know they were lost in the wind but I was like fuck I went from three to zero how did this happen yeah yeah back up to two I conservatively estimate that I've

lost like $5,000 worth of sunglasses they Are they going to say 5,000 pairs? Yeah, I do too. No, I'm counting in the ones that are free. The ones that are from Shady Rays. And by the way, Shady Rays does have a deal where if you lose them, you can get a new pair, which is awesome. Shady Rays is awesome. Yeah, I've probably lost 5,000 pairs, but $5,000 total worth of sunglasses. Yeah. Just in the last seven years.

Yeah. I don't know how you do it. It's like I use sunglasses basically just exclusively in my car. Yeah. And having to have them on deck all the time. That's fucking tough. I find them in very strange places but it has been nice the last couple years not having to like if I go somewhere for work not having a pair of sunglasses being like shit I have to stop by a store and buy sunglasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay, pft your fire first. That's a good reverse fire fest reverse fire first Yeah, my fire fest is last night slash this morning. I passed another kidney stone. Oh, it's been a while for that I don't I think I've gotten rid of all my stones by now. I have to I know that you had one big cat a few

Years ago. Yeah, I had on vitamin C. Yeah. Yeah I had one about two weeks after Big Cat had one, which makes me think that it was something that we were eating or drinking together. They gave it to us, but I had like 13 kidney stones when they did the scan of my kidney. And they're all really small, so they didn't have to like go up there and shoot it with the lasers that they do sometimes. So they're just like, yeah, just so you know, you're going to be pissing out kidney stones for the next, I don't know, six months, year. But I had another one. Was it painful or was it just the rock coming out of your penis?

And you're like what the fuck was that the rock coming out of my penis is not the painful part Yeah, the painful part is when it goes from your kidney to your bladder right and that's the really small tube my urethra Is a cavern compared to yeah that you have a wide cut I do have a well I've got a not a great penis But I've got a huge urethra imagine if that was like hey hey, babe like yeah, it's not it's not long It's not big yeah, but the fucking hole is why I've got a massive hole if I could take a close-up picture My penis hole and people wouldn't know I'd be like fellas how many beers and dudes would get horny online not knowing what it Was a vagina on the tip of your penis. I'm a docking man's dream. Yeah

So yeah that sucked but I woke up this morning I was sweating back hurt the whole thing But it's gone now, so I'm happy that it's gone, but I hope it's the last one But I yeah, I think that's about a baker's dozen kidney stones piss through my dick Yeah But I yeah, I think that's about a baker's dozen kiddie stones piss through my dick Yeah, my I mean mine was was a one-off Hopefully knock on wood because it was when I was in some bro science and I was like I think I was trying to fight off covid with just vitamin C Mm-hmm, and I took like a bunch of vitamin C tablets and and the emergency and then I just started pissing like electric orange And then a rock came out and it hurts so bad. It hurts it hurts bad. Yeah, but but it's also

That's the most relieving part is when it comes out. Yeah, but yeah, my dick's seen some shit What can I say? My dick's basically been to war For its service. Yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome. So that's my fire fest I feel I feel like that's a solid fire fest whenever I have one. It's like, okay I know what I'm gonna talk about on Thursday. Yeah, because Jesus that is painful stuff All right, my fire fest is not well It's not it is my fire fest, but it's my kids are on spring break and every morning this week I've had to explain to them that today is not donut day because they don't have school so they automatically assume

It's donut day. It's like Pavlov's dog. It really sucks having to break it to him I it even got worse this morning because my daughter woke up and she's like is it donut day and I was like no It's not she's like is it Halloween and I was like, nope So they're just like thinking like every day that they're not in school. They're like well something special has to happen Santa here Yeah, they're just like and I'm like no, I'm sorry to break it to you. It's Thursday Max Jake and I went to Dave and Buster's yesterday. Oh, yeah, just for fun and Max Jake and I went to Dave and Buster's yesterday. Oh yeah. Just for fun. And it was a scene. Yes.

It was like the most packed club I've ever been in. Yes. Yeah, my wife took my son to the Children's Museum. She said it was the craziest scene ever because everyone's on spring break right now. Yeah, the aquarium is probably popping off right now. Popping off. But yeah, it's been tough having to break it

to a four and a half year old and a two and a half year old being like, today off, but yeah, it's been tough. Having to break it to a four and a half year old and a two and a half year old being like, today is not donut day, it's sad. It breaks my heart every single time. In a few years. And no Halloween was brutal. Yeah, I guess it takes a couple years, but what, six or seven?

That's when you start to appreciate weeks off from school. Right, right, because they, like, they still like school right now. But yeah, the no Halloween, and then my son chimed in and was like Halloween's next week And I was like god damn it guys we got to get on this schedule thing like where we got a ways to go Yeah, that's a that's a very funny way to grow up though like every day that I don't have school. I get yeah, right That's exactly what they assume or something special has is about to happen. Yeah Oh, it's Thursday speaking the aquarium. What the fuck is going on with a pregnant stingray? I don't know still hasn't given birth. Oh

That that bitch was our g3s baby. That bitch was never pregnant. Yeah, you never became a dad who pucks a tawny fill really? Yeah, groundhog fucking I guess so I thought I lived in that tree stump all year long in the list of like animals I'd want to see fuck. I think Groundhogs are very low. Oh, I'd say hi really I would love to see ground so much fur It's like two pillows fucking to throw pillows. They've got they've got the cute little buck teeth They're probably chatting her away. Well they do that watch the turtle fuck is wild yet is they scream yeah, welcome to babies To he had twins I guess wait Phil Wait, he had the baby or he's a dad

Yeah They father if they if why the buddy pregnant if they made Phil a woman I'll join everyone who's been red-pilled and been like our society's going to shit. You can't do that I guess Phil came early this year. Yeah Goddamnit. Okay, so he's got two kids. Yeah, two baby groundhogs How are gonna get any sleep? He's gonna do a bad job of fucking telling us if it's winter or not How are they gonna decide which one of his kids becomes the next Brown hog? I don't know they're gonna fight to the dead. Yeah. Yeah, they did first time in 138 years

Did Phil's had a kid? Yeah, how old is Phil? I don't know. I'm gonna send you guys the article There's gotta be multiple fills. Yeah By the way little correction even though I don't I I'll still stand with my take that flacko the owl was a slut Big time slut. I guess the pigeon herpes might have been because he was eating pigeons. Yeah, that's that good explanation Right flacko, right? Uh-huh. Yeah eating their cock. Hey, babe I have no idea where these herpes came from must have been a feel. Yeah. Yeah must so wait He was probably going down on the pigeon. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's eating their cock So I I'm sticking with full-on slut shaming a flacco. You were a slut. That's how you got the herpes

That's how your brain got worms. That's how you die. Very convenient flacco hot guy Flacco and Phyllis bit what Phyllis is Phil's? brain got worms. That's how you die. Very convenient flaco. Hot guy. Flaco and Phyllis. What? Phyllis is Phil's baby mom. Oh, so he's got Phyllis. I like that. Okay, you guys the article. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna see

they married. Is that a what? Oh, there's nothing I like more than when a zoo does a wedding for two of their animals. Yeah, Phil and Phyllis. Those are also the names of retro Phillies mascot. Oh shit. Remember when de Blasio dropped Yeah, Phil and Phyllis Those are also the names of

Retro-Philies mascots. Oh shit. Remember when de Blasio dropped the the the what is it a hedgehog? No, I Know de Blasio the hedgehog went missing. No, no, it wasn't it wasn't a hedgehog. He dropped it What is what is Pungstani Phil? He's ground. He's he dropped on all galleab Pull up de Blasio de Bllasio dropped a groundhog on its head And it died like a day later. They got rid of the groundhog. Yeah, no it died. They just killed it He just fucking dropped a groundhog that doesn't get talked about enough groundhogs live up to six years in the wild But Punxsutawney groundhog club I want to be remember that club has previously stated Phil's longevity comes from taking a sip of the elixir of life every summer At the groundhog picnic the secret recipe

Magically gives him seven more years of life. There's given a message to see ill atreides He's giving you give them diddy's pink can't cocaine wait, so they're saying that this dune. Yeah, we've never seen dude We've been told that this is the same Phil for 138 years and that it's a magic groundhog They're killing groundhogs left and right. Yeah, wait, get the video. I want to see the video. He dropped the groundhog and then the groundhog died like a day later. You can probably just search for videos of it. I don't know why he had to use Twitter. Okay. I'm Sydney Sweeney. Yeah. Probably doing the Sydney Sweeney thing. Yeah. No, this isn't it, Max. Oh, yeah. It is. Okay, so it's got a

look at it. Yeah, he just drops it. Oh my god. You got to hold it and then the groundhog died. Got a concussion. Was dead. The next day. And then again, yeah, they put it in the blue shed. Fucking de Blasio. What a jerk. All right, that was groundhog talk. Find you a podcast that does groundhog talk in late March It's just it's unreal that they're telling us that this groundhog has been alive for 130 years Shout out the Phillies Retro logo. It's great logo great logo Phil and Phyllis. Yeah, I don't know How about that max? Yeah, I don't know about that max. I'm a missus met man. I know about that chief

Okay, Jake my fire fest. I guess it's a little bit of a reverse, too It's really a good thing but in the moment, it's a bad thing. I did my first ever cold plunge last week Oh how'd it go? I have it on video. It was really it was you scream. Yeah, of course How long were you in there for three minutes? That's a long time. Yeah, you're gonna be like now in no time. So That's a long time. Yeah, you're gonna be like now in no time. So Yeah, it's it was very hard but for three those are the slowest three minutes I've ever had Yeah, so I did it. Did you feel did you feel like a man when you got out? Yeah, it feels really good when you get out but that moment of duck in your head. Oh Boy, yeah, I of all the people that I thought would be a cold plunge guy

I think Jake was last on my list of people. Yeah. Yeah doing this but it's a good way Just like comes out. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's he up. Yeah I'm a month. I've still not gone to cold plunge World I've done it a few times. I should have done it once but I was at a gym and I don't think it was like fully Cold it was like the cold bath at a gym. It's great for a for a hangover Yeah I don't think it was like fully cold. It was like the cold bath at a gym It's great for a for a hangover. Yeah, you go hot cold hot cold And then your body is just so confused that it can't be hung over anymore. Yeah, I used to do before it was cool. Oh Really? Yeah, we should it was hot for

Baseball back in college. Do you guys know I went to a training facility? When I was in college and biz was also at that training facility at the same time doing what for like a month Who's that worse for? Definitely biz yeah Yeah, I was a college kid he was our man I was like oh yeah that guy plays in the NHL and then he was like always cracking jokes and like the Yoga and stuff that we had to do uh-huh and then it ended up being biz yeah, that's crazy. That is crazy Biz walks into an elite athletic training facility. Yeah, he's like, yeah, I'm an initial player

I got to get my body right and then max is just there farting two sodas the whole nine yards Max how many times you get tagged in that tweet the other day of the guy who was like whoever's eating a burrito on the Plane we can all smell it Yeah, I mean that's all my mentions are Tagged a million times. Is Pug out of the vet? No, Pug's still in the vet. Okay.

Is he going to have a cone on next week? He's got one arm shaved. All right, numbers. 840. 23. 77. 18. We dance, numbers. 8. 40. 23. 77. 18. We dance, Max.

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