Pardon My Take - Mick Cronin, Jay Glazer, and the Grit Week 19 Finale

Episode Date: May 24, 2019

Grit Week 19 comes to a close and the Bucks are officially cursed by Aaron Rodgers lack of chugging ability.  Drake is being Drake and we recap the week out in LA. (2:45-18:03) Fyre Fest Of The Week. (18:04-29:04) UCLA Head Coach Mick Cronin joins us to talk about grit, his decision to take the job, how he'll miss fighting Xavier and how he's actually a football guy trapped in a basketball coach's body. (30:31-55:40) Jay Glazer joins the show from his gym and we talk grit and justice for his Odell scoop. (57:15-1:22:23) Segments include Danny kennel asks a question and we play unreal audio of a guy addicted to weed. (1:22:59-1:29:31) Sabermetrics (1:32:13-1:35:01) and FAQ's with sound guy Charles (1:35:02-1:40:08)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, Great Week is over. It's sad. It's been a hell of a week. Great week. And we have a great show for you because we're going to get it up one last time.

One last time for the boys. Even Hank. Even Hank. Mick Cronin on the show. Jay Glazer on the show. Firefest of the week on the show. We actually were able to watch some basketball. Oh, fuck.

Yes. Smelling salt. Yes. Yes. Yes. On the show. We just did a smelling salt on the show. Wow.

Wait. Give me another one. Yeah. Here. Pass it. Pass it. Oh. Oh.

Shout out the guy who gave us smelling salts at Ralph's on Wednesday, whatever day that was. Okay. That was awesome. We have all that on the show. I feel so fucking good now. That was a total game changer. Hank, way to go, dude.

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As I said at the start of the playoffs, I was like, the speed in which your football players chug beers is directly correlated to your basketball team's success in the playoffs. And we've seen it time and again in the NHL, in the NBA, and guess what, Rodgers absolutely cursed them. And then... Christian Yelich. Then Christian Yelich piled on him, and he chugged a beer. Chugged a beer.

David Bakhtiari chugged three beers. And then to add insult to injury, Matt Stafford was watching the game in a bar. And he chugged a beer. And he chugged a beer. And that's a man that knows how to win in the playoffs. Yes, exactly. So not only that, but there's actually no state worse to be in and not be able to chug a beer than the state of Wisconsin.

If you can't chug a beer in the state of Wisconsin, you got to get out instantly. So Aaron Rodgers has cursed the Bucks. Excommunicated. I didn't want to say it, but that's what people are talking about. I saw Twitter was trending. I saw it was trending Rodgers beer. I just assumed cursed was also in there. They just ran out of characters.

So we have that. We got to talk about this game. We actually watched a basketball game for the first time this week. Thankfully, we've been going up and down the coast doing a million interviews. We'll get to the rest of grit week, the finale of grit week in a minute. But let's talk about this game real quick. Yeah. What, what do you think Drake would have done if the camera pan to him on the sideline?

Okay. Well, do you think he would have chugged a beer? Uh, no, he probably would have chugged like, uh, what's that? He doesn't have a hypnotic. Yeah. So rock. So rock. He has an alcohol.

Right. He's got a whiskey. Oh yeah. Virginia whiskey. Yeah, dude. He has that commercial where he's in that sweater and he's like trying to smell that girls. That might be a music video. You're talking about Joe Biden.

Try to smell girls hair. No. Yeah. No, no, no. He, Liam, he has a fact check that he's got a liquor. He would have just gone over to Nick nurse and just funneled the beer into Nick nurse. Yes. So yeah, exactly.

Just helped him like a sippy cup. Uh, so we had the, the, the beer truck. What is it? Virginia black. Virginia black. It was on the tip of our tongue. We almost had it. Uh, it's funny.

You bring up Drake. We got to get to the actual game, but this league man. So Mallory Edens, who is the daughter of the owner of the box sat next to Aaron Rogers, wore a push a T T shirt. And then when the Raptors won, Drake changed his Instagram profile picture to a picture of Mallory Edens. This elite. So pretty.

People forget he never actually responded to push a T though. Oh, this is, I did forget to the disc. I just remembered cause he told me he was quick for Mallory. Yeah. That's the most Canadian response ever to a disc track is, is to just wait and then like subtly change your social media. Take your time. Yeah.

Yeah. Take as much time as possible. That's as mean as they get in Canada. Uh, you know what? I'm real ticked. I'm going to change my avatar. Yeah. That's a trick.

But the game. Okay. Let's talk about the game real quick. In honor of grit week. Fred Van Vleet. Yeah. Seven for nine from three had the game of his life. Great to Van Vleet.

The March of the Peaceful Army. Yeah. He was awesome. He was awesome. What do you want? Hey. I don't know. I just don't know.

Greta Van Vleet is the name of a band. Yeah. And they have a song. They're like, everyone's like, oh my God. They're the new Led Zeppelin reference or something. Okay. Yeah. Close.

It does. Do you like them? Just like a U-boat commander. Yeah. Do you like them? Yeah. I feel like we've been put. It's been pushed a little hard on us.

Yeah. This is the band that will save rock and roll. It's like, man. Yeah. They're like Led Zeppelin if they did all the wrong drugs. Right. They're essentially led. They're an American Led Zeppelin that happened 40 years after it was cool to be Led Zeppelin.

Yes. Which is exactly what they are. I think we've just covered all the Greta Van Vleet talk. Yes. All right. Greta Van Vleet had the game of his life and Kawhi was okay. But Yanis. Well, Kawhi was better.

Kawhi. No, he was good. He had a software upgrade to him. He was better than Yanis. He wasn't 45 point Kawhi who we've seen at points in this playoffs. Oh, he ended with 35. Kawhi is the fucking guy who you can just watch a game and not realize that he's got 35 points. You know what I mean?

Because it's so efficient and it's so robotic and steady throughout. Where it just happens. And you're like, wait, you look up and you're like, oh, shit. Kawhi's got 28. How'd that happen? Like, I feel like I've only seen him make two buckets. Noted conservative Kawhi Leonard probably really wants a White House visit. Yes.

So Kawhi had a very good game. Yanis was not great and he was good, but he wasn't MVP Yanis. We had the best part of the game as at the end when he turned his ankle, came out for a possession and Chris fucking Weber. I cannot stand Chris Weber. Like, sitting there and being like, he quit on his team. Chris Weber. Chris Weber.

For everything good that Joanne Howard did for the Fab Five today, Chris Weber ruined it with the commentary at the end. I just something about like, he just, I don't like Chris Weber. He's very bad at diagnosing injuries. Yeah. Well, no, that's Reggie Miller. No, Reggie Miller and Chris Weber together together to start the worst hospital of all time.

Yeah. I just something about him and the fact that the fact that he was like, yeah, Yanis quit, which I don't even know what happened. I don't know if he came out because of the ankle or if it was, he was actually tired. Well, no, I'm betting that Giannis came out because he was hurt. Yeah. But, but, but Chris Weber saying like a team like Yanis is coming up small in a big moment is like, uh, come on, Chris Weber dude.

See web. And I know like the whole like, you know, you got to let it go because he's now an analyst, but it still feels weird. Doesn't I forget he traveled on that play too. Yeah, he did. They didn't call that. They did not. They did not call that.

They sort of rather them called that. Yes. Because then they got the, they got the, they got the free throw in the ball. Ball don't lie. Right. Fuck. Don't fuck. Um, so now I guess the Bucks are in trouble and we have Drake is going to be around for

the next three weeks, bothering us if the Raptors finish it off at home. I'm hoping for that. Now I was on the Bucks train big time and then it was often I was back on, then it was often I was back on again. But now I think I'm off again official status because I want Drake in the finals off on flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. So you're basically just going with whoever wins the game. I want Drake on the sidelines in the box for on the box.

Yeah. Okay. Got it. But I, I thought about it and having Drake on the sidelines for what I think would be a short NBA finals would add at least a little bit of intrigue to it. Kevin Durant and Marcus Cousins already ruled out for game one. Hmm. Okay.

Over under six games left in the NBA season. Exactly. Great question. Exactly six over. I'm betting the push. I'll bet over. I'll take the under. Good question.

I'll bet over. I think whatever the finals can be, it's going to go. Well, you're out. You got a factor in game seven. Yeah. Yeah. Five or six. Whatever the finals will be.

I think the war is sweeper. Going five. Okay. All right. I think it's pretty good. Why is pretty good? Would they do the thing where they just make him his ankle like blow out in the first game?

I mean, the warriors are clicking on all cylinders and they have like 15 days. Rest rust. No, but it's like rest. Good point. You need to shoot every day to be good at shooting. As a shooter, someone who is shot the ball, who has shot it, didn't say if it went in or not, but I have shot when I do not shoot, it hurts my game. You don't think they're shooting?

Who knows? Who's to say? I haven't seen it. Carl Everett. Dinosaur. A real quick skip Bayless update here. So he's got a new person that he hates and it's Kauai Leonard. Okay.

So Kauai is like his new LeBron because LeBron really isn't in the discussion anymore. So he has to move on with his takes. Skip is a Spurs fan. Correct. He is a big Spurs fan. Yes. My Spurs. He only refers to him as number two now, which is like, I don't know if he's calling it a

shit. Or if he's saying like he's Robin, but he's saying number two wanted no part of having to shoot those clenching free throws. So we retreated from three Raptors trying to foul him. Oh, no, no, sorry. That's, that's Giannis. Wait. And that was.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm trying to figure this out because he said he, oh, skip. Not high. I'm bad. Oh, not vessels. She's Chris. We were fucking high. Skip fucked it up.

I don't fight. What were those? So that was a smelling, smelling solid. But back then he said he retreated from three bucks trying to foul him, lobbed the dangerous pass to Lowry who got tackled no foul call and Toronto lucked into a clenching dunk by siacum. And then he said, nailed it. Now we see if the limping thing where like if you can't.

You can't say a name. You just say it as quick as possible. Yep. Yep. No, that's a really good way to do things. But then later, this is actually his pièce de résistance of the night. Now we see if the limping legend can stand up to the pressure of a closeout home game to get to the NBA finals.

I mean, so why is the limping legend? He did have, he didn't have the quad injury that kept him out for an entire year when it probably was a week, week long injury, but skip is furious. So the two things, one skip bail is to Drake having those are the two reasons why you should root for the Raptors to be in the NBA finals. And some not enough people are talking about Gucci Mane went to his first game in Canada. Like he had, he wasn't allowed in Canada. He like said it in a song.

He finally went to his first game in Canada, wore Buck's jersey. They haven't won. Gucci Mane curse. What do you have to do to not be allowed in Canada? Well, he's been arrested for killing people. No, they remember they killed the person recently. If you even have like a, if you got let off self-defense, okay, respect Canada. Yeah.

Actually, that was a bad point by me. Bad brain. Because you're not allowed to go to Canada if you have a DUI either. How would you know that? Because I've helped plan a bachelor party in Montreal and you have a DUI and no, it's just, Hey, just so you guys know, if you have a DUI, you can't go and a guy was like, Yeah, I can't go. Uh, that's actually a great excuse to get out of a bachelor party.

He, everyone should get a preemptive DUI. Yeah. But whatever may be whatever happened in this game, I think it all has to come full circle. Aaron Rodgers definitely cursed the box. Absolutely. Like that is you cannot have your quarterback now finish a beer. What was that? Tom Brady can chug a beer faster than back to your again.

Yes. And, uh, who do you go, who do you go against that told the story? Uh, it was Ross Tucker. Ross Tucker. That's right. So what I don't understand, I think Aaron Rodgers is going to do a thing. Like someone's going to ask him about this and he's going to be like, I don't, I don't do peer pressure.

Like everyone wanted me to chug that beer. I didn't want to chug that beer. I actually drink a mead. Yeah. So we challenged him already to a whiskey. He's like, next time make it a whiskey. Oh, so we all chug our whiskeys. At about the same speed.

Yeah. You would still probably lose to David back to you. Yeah. No, it is disgraceful to the state of Wisconsin. Yeah. And I mean, I'm just saying how far is this curse going to go? We don't know. Maybe into next year.

Maybe to Christian Yelich, maybe, maybe to the Packers, maybe forever. We will not be real shame. All right. Great week. We are whoo, shish. Damn. Yeah. That was it was something I don't think that we've ever done this many

interviews in this short of time. We're not telling you guys, everyone that we've done, we're going to keep a couple secret couple close to the vest to surprise you with later. But it's been fun and it's been probably the widest range of interviews that we've ever done. We did six on Wednesday. We did four on Tuesday. We did another two today, a couple more Sunday and Monday.

I think we're going to end up tomorrow. Yeah. One tomorrow. I think we're going to end up with like 15 or so. And it was awesome. Huge guests, very fun time. We didn't get in any fights, which was very big of us. Credit to a couple of people.

Kelly, who helped book, shout out Kels. She's probably not even going to listen to this. She definitely doesn't listen. What's her Twitter? Find her Twitter. Everyone tweet her. Thank you. Let's do that.

Let's, that's really nice. Yeah. Let's tweet this. Yeah. Shout out to Charles, the sound guy who is going to be on the show at the end of the show and shout out to all the AWLs who showed up to Ralph's and had the cops called on us. That was really nice.

We, you know what, it would have been badass if we had gotten arrested there because the charge would have been inciting a riot. Yes. They actually sweet fucking charge. So we showed up to Ralph's. It was incredible. We, there was like legit 350, 400 people there and we start talking to everyone, taking pictures, hanging out.

And then the manager at Ralph's comes over to me and he's like, Hey, what are you guys doing? And I was like, what do you mean? We're like here, uh, we're taking pictures. We were doing a body armor thing. She's like, well, we're about to call the police. And I was like, well, can we just hang out and take these pictures? She's like, she just walked away.

She's like, I'm calling the police. And also if you're, if you're really into crowd estimation, like we are, especially during parades, if you see the picture that we tweeted out, that's not everybody that was, no, that was stuff around at the very, very end when we got the picture. So also I did officiate a wedding. Yeah. In the back of, uh, Greta Van Vleet, but it turned out that they were pranking

us and they were brother and sister and they didn't actually kiss each other. But thank God, to be honest. Yeah. Thank God. But I did pronounce them husband and wife. So I think they're married. Yeah. That's probably wasn't their real names and there wasn't their real names.

So you did a bad job as a man. Yeah, job. Next time I'm checking IDs. I think you know, I think the next time you have Leroy, the dog, you shut the fuck up. Because I mean, no, wait, no, no, no, no, because we wrote 50 these, he's one for two on, on, uh, weddings. That's way bigger than Leroy's average. Leroy nailed Joanne Howard to Michigan.

Oh, great. Two days ago. So the one that everyone was saying. So Boop. No, he said it first. Oh, no, people talked about like a week ago. Yeah. And then when Ed, it was Ed Cooley, Ed Cooley, Ed Cooley and Leroy bucked the trend

and said it's not Ed Cooley. It's Joanne Howard. I'm just happy to delete that. Boop. Yeah. Uh, doesn't delete anymore. You just need to make people, uh, fuck before. Like, yeah, that's true.

Yeah. Let's say, Oh yeah. All right. Well, you got to fuck. Cause I'm married to brother and sister. I see the old penetration. Yeah. So no, shout out to everyone who came out.

The cops got caught. We've got the cops calling us twice this week. I don't understand what California is. Not people just coming up and being like, Hey, I'm calling the cops. Permit. Yeah. Do you have a permit? No, I'm calling the cops.

Do I look like somebody that has a permit for anything? It was fast too. It was like in California, I guess it's one question I'm calling the cops. I felt like the, uh, the barbecue lady in Oakland. So the lady that saw us filming today, that's, uh, boardwalk Becky. Yes. Uh, you have a permit. I need my space.

Where's your manager? She said that. Uh, any other great week things that we need to discuss? I mean, it was an awesome week. We, I, it was, it was fucking a blur. And when I feel like we traveled up and down everywhere, we didn't die. It's going to be a good summer in the van. Going to be a great summer.

Happy Memorial Day. Happy Memorial Day. You can wear white after Memorial Day. Uh-huh. Or if you're a virgin, you can wear it before. Also true. Um, should we do firefests? Let's do it.

Let's do some firefests. Hank, why don't you start with your firefest? Okay. This is kind of a, uh, preemptive firefest or a pre-lated firefest. And I don't know what the proper, uh, pre-lated, yeah. Yeah. Pull out there.

That we're going to be in New York next week. It's just that we've spent this entire week. Cause I was thinking earlier, it was like, oh, firefest the week. It's like, there are no firefests. We've been in California enjoying this beautiful Los Angeles weather, having a great week. I have no firefest, but I know on Monday when it's like, fuck, we're just in New York for the summer and I'll be coming back to LA anytime soon.

Probably only going to have like one vacation this summer. Oh man. The best part about being in LA this week is everyone's saying you brought the bad weather with you and it's like 65 and sunny and we're like, this is awesome. This is incredible. We also spent some time with Mark Titus yesterday and he was, uh, he was talking about how much he loved it. That was, that was, that was, yeah, that was for you.

Cause he's not that guy and he was like, I, the only thing I hate about this place is how much I love it. Like what? That sucks. That's what I needed you guys to hear. But in zone, when we get back to New York, it's actually going to be good weather next week, but then it's still in New York. Right.

When it's good weather in New York, it's like, one, you know, it's fleeting. Yeah. Two, you know, if it's hot, it's just going to bounce off the trash directly into your nostrils. It's New York's weather is this. It's 40 and below. It's miserable because it's, you know, either snowing or cold or whatever, it's wintertime, uh, 40 to 60.

It's definitely raining 60 to 77 is nice. 77 up is smells like hot trash and puke and diarrhea amendment. 60 to 77 is nice, but that's also the start of mystery. Water hitting you on the side. Yes. What would you, Charles, you're, you're an LA local. What would you rate this week of weather? Oh, Charles, you got a mic.

It's been about a seven. Okay. Seven. Yeah. Dude, this is a 13 out of 10. That's a one week. Yeah. Yeah.

Seven LA is like, that's, if you're in New York city, that's an 11. Yeah. When, when we were with Blake Griffin and I was like, Hey, Blake. Sick name. Uh, how, how, how, uh, hot does it get in the summer? He's like, maybe 90 at the most. I was like, God damn it. This place is fucking perfect because I can't take the heat.

Can't, I'm fine with the cold. Fuck. God damn it. Shut up, Hank. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Firefest of the week. You're one. My firefest of the week is I broke my rib today. A pretty much broken rib. I have a pretty much broken rib. So it hurts to laugh. Good thing that this show is not very funny. So I'll be okay on that front.

We were filming a video and I thought you were, uh, like doing this for the video. You thought I was doing a chaos on. Yeah. No, we were filming a video that should be out tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow with the chaos today, the chaos bros and I was doing yoga on the beach for one shot and I tried to do the worm bad move because I've never actually done the worm in my life.

No one has. No one really has. Yeah. And I, I didn't know how to start. So I just dove onto my chest, chest first. Yeah. And I broke my rib pretty much. Damn.

It's basically, it's basically pretty much broken rib. Yeah, basically. My other firefest of the week is, well, this is also pre-lated because, uh, we're going to have to get messy, I think. I think one of us is going to have to get messy. Um, Mike Florio wrote a blog today about how Kirk Cousins challenged him to do the broken egg challenge for crack cancer. And it's pretty much you, uh, you just, wait, what's crack cancer?

It's a, it's a fundraiser. It's like the ice bucket challenge, except when you smoked your crack. No, that, no, that's also a thing. Yeah, yeah, I know it's called addiction. Yeah. Uh, so with Florio, he has to break eggs on his face. And he actually wrote his blog on his two peg, but it's really just a short face. Okay.

It has to break eggs on his face. And then he gets to nominate multiple people to do it next. And I'm, don't, don't let him know that we're onto him, but he's going to choose one of us, if not both of us. What if I just say no? Well, then you, then you support cancer. Well, I mean, at some point, well, I support stopping cancer, but you support cancer.

If you don't support paying money to cure cancer. Well, maybe, uh, eggs is part of healthy living. So why would I waste an egg? Well, it's also high on cholesterol. So it contributes to heart. I didn't say that I eat egg whites, my friends. That's one that somebody else that you're taking a bullet for somebody. Um, yeah, I don't, I probably, I'm going to deny.

I'm, I'll just donate to cancer. He's probably going to nominate. Yeah. I'll donate to do in the video. Yeah. Okay. I'm just, I'm just letting you know my last firefest of the week is I left my laptop charger and my phone charger.

Yes. Back in and all your pens for, no, I look at this, I got three pens. Yeah. I've been amassing. Oh, you finally found them. Yeah. Uh, so I left my laptop charger and my phone charger in New York for an entire week and I've somehow managed to scavenge charges from you guys.

And I, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's half the conversations as we do it. I'm going to give you that back, half the conversations have also not your charge. Yeah. I know half the conversations have been, Hey, can I get charged? Can I get a quick charge? Because they don't have a brick.

He was walking around being like, Hey, whose brick is this? Just plugging, unplugging things. I mean, like, is this anyone's like, yeah, that, yeah, that's, yeah. That is something that I've always asked if like they're done with that food. Like you get kills, you go with that. You got a pen, you got a charger and I admit that's a very annoying friend to deal with, but the thing is we landed and we didn't have time to like go to the Apple store.

It was my plan to buy something from the Apple store. So I didn't have to, it was, but I was a pain in the button for that. Well, and it didn't help hand up. And this was truly, if you're chasing a charge all weekend on both devices, that's so stressful. Yes, you're basically on life support. Yes, pretty much. There's Charles, I love it.

I fucking love it. There's, I, it didn't help too that I brought a charger, but that left it at Jared Goff's house. So it, like it became the, it became a very bad charge situation. Los Angeles chargers did not show up. No, they did not. There's still the San Diego chargers to me. All right.

I got two firefests. Uh, one is we didn't smoke enough weed. That's sucked. Like we just didn't smoke enough weed. I think a lot of people thought that we smoked weed for the popcorn conversation. Right. But we're just, we were really fired up about, but it's just like we had too much shit going on.

So a lot of people gave us weed though. Shout out to those. Oh yeah. Shout out to the guy who came up. It's a great, uh, yeah. Shout out to the guy who came up to me at Ralph's and was like, Hey big guy, can you sign my edibles? And I was like, sure, dude.

And I was like, do you have a pen? He's like, Oh fuck. He was like, he's like, I forgot a pen. It's like, well, that makes sense. Someone had a magic marker, uh, like the raceable marker and they were trying to sign like wet beers. Yeah. That's tough.

The dry erase ones. Yeah. That's tough. Um, all right. And then my other fire fest, I want to preface it by saying, I think I handled it very well and there was no drama whatsoever. But PFT made us pull over and poop for 10 minutes while we were driving in traffic.

Yeah, we're stuck in traffic. And he liked to tweet while he's in the bathroom. Yeah, I did. And what else are you going to do? Well, I, wait, wait, wait, you expected me to know. No, Hank, somewhere in our, in our contract as, as co-hosts, it says that I'm not allowed to like to, no, no, no, no, no, we were, we were trying to get back through traffic.

You like tweets when you're driving the RV. Hold on. Hold on. I told you, great point. Oh, you're getting mad. I told you that I handle it. Well, you're getting mad. You said, I was like, Hey, can you hurry up?

Because I've actually never been in a car where someone's like, I have to poop. I can't really hold it. Not only that, but we literally had just left an office with the bathroom. And he's like, I didn't want to poop at Boris's office. Yeah, I thought that would be rude. It was, okay. So we got in the, in the car, it's fucking terrible traffic on the 405 North. And we get somewhere that's bad.

We get somewhere and he's like, we're like, Hey, PFT, can you hurry up? Because we got to get back. And he was listening to a pizza review, like slowly getting out of the car and like slowly walking to the bathroom. And then it, it was like 10 minutes. And I know that poops take a while, but sometimes you got to do it quite quick. Also, three of those minutes, I was trying to get into the in and out, but it only had the outdoor locks on the bathroom.

And so I couldn't get in. I had to walk across the street. That's really like a six and a half. It was a little longer than that. But it was two days worth because I hadn't pooped in two days. Yeah, that's, that also is crazy. My whole body is thrown off by the West Coast. I was very, I was shocked when you're like, I, we have to pull over.

I have to poop. Yeah, I had to go. Should I just do my, I think I should do my confession. Okay. This is the right place to talk about it. Uh, but it was still, it's very embarrassing for me, although I know you guys can relate. But I was up this morning. I was editing stool scenes.

We had only eaten in and out the day before. It was like seven o'clock in the morning. I felt the urge to go take a shit. And I got up. It was like farting on the way and I shit in my pants. Yes. Good job. Good job, Hank.

First time I've ever actually, yes, I'm proud of you. Came out, our little boys becoming a man. How much? Just a little bit like a squirt. You had to throw out the boxers. I, yeah, I just threw them right through, threw them right away. They, it was, it was an ugly scene. I got it.

I understood. So I was like, Oh, like send him my computer. I was like, Oh, I got to take a shit. And I stood up. It was like, Oh, farting. And I was like, Oh, Oh, and I, you know, I felt it on my leg, the trap in and out. Yeah. They're in the trash.

Oh, thank you. Get them out. Where should we take a look? Uh, there's no trash can here. No, I do not want to look. Wait, they're just in your room. They're in a, I like put them in a plastic bag, like wrap them up and put them in the trap.

I'm proud of you, man. Yeah. The good job. I mean, good job. This would never happen with Taco Bell. Yeah. Are you, are you worried about in and out and what it does to you? No, by the way, I think it was, I think it was a coincident coincidence.

Hank, I thought you, I thought you were going to say when you woke up at seven a.m. that you went down to the van and got the fucking in and out burger that you squirreled away because I got to the van at eight 30 this morning and I was like, what is this? Oh, it's a fucking in and out burger. Just say it because when we go to in and out, Hank buys all these burgers and just squirrels them away. And you get one, you always get one extra.

You never know when you're going to get that one in over the car for like like 18 hours, a long time. So Hank, I'm proud of you, man. Good job, Hank. Yeah. Good job. We can also hold this against them next time. He tries to get us to move out here.

Yeah, it makes you shit. This place makes you shit your pants. You'll just be crafting yourself. Would you move to LA if you if you if you had to shit your pants every single day? Yeah, every single day and you can't do it in your house every time. Yeah, I would I would I wouldn't we get that would inspire me to invent something and then I would probably make a shitload of money. What a diaper.

You're talking about a diaper. You invented a diaper. Yeah, some type of we have a button and we can press it. And the minute we press it, you shit your pants. So like you could be out for a date. Boom, shit your pants. You could be walking on the beach. Boom, shit your pants.

And you have to worry about it every single day forever. Or is there like 15 years? No, I will say that the beach would be the best place to shit yourself. Yeah, you just go in the bathroom. Yeah, I mean, go in the ocean with little aqueducts. Yeah, cleans you right up. Nothing like that. All right.

So that was us talking poop. Either way, I handled the I handled you having to take a shit very well. Liam can attest. I don't know what that means. I was very nice about it. And so you're mad. No, I wasn't there, but I can tell. No, we were in a rush by the way that we were in a rush.

And it was you if you had seen him walk out of the car, it was he was listening, he was listening to Liam the watch. It was cocky as hell. He was listening to a pizza review and slowly getting out of the car. The alternative was bad, though. If I had not. No, of course I listen. I got I got us I got us off the road as fast as I possibly could.

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This is brought to you by Body Armor. We're on grit week. Go drink your body armor. Coach, we got to start with this. You are now an LA guy. People say LA is soft, but you're since he died by birth and by everything. So tell us what grit means to you. But just hard work, I would say, you know, things you taught.

Not I'm not going to go into my recruiting spiel. Not one or no, you can. Please do. Recruit us like we're in the grid. We're in the grit van, but I can box out. You know, hard work is going to take in charges is everything, you know. But you know, it's not just taking a charge. You know, like shooting like so Reggie Miller played right behind us, right? So I mean, you know, his footwork, he worked on for hours and hours and hours.

The ball just didn't go in. So, you know, there's a lot of a lot of that, you know, sometimes grit and toughness get always tied into defense and then rebounding. But running the floor, all that stuff. So, you know, I think just hard work in general personifies grit in your life. Whatever. I mean, look at, you know, you guys worked hard to build this. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, you brought up shooting. Will you be will you be actually teaching shooting in LA because you didn't do it?

It's you guys just rebounded and didn't shoot ever. Well, we shot a little bit. I'm going to brag on you. So OK, OK. Oh, I know you got some advanced stats. I was waiting for this. You're right. So so the leading scores ever at Cincinnati. Oscar Robertson don't count. She's the best player ever.

So but after that, I recruited or coached every one of them. Oh, OK. The leading scores in the history of the school. Well, I would go, I would go. Oh, Sean Kilpatrick's the only other guy over 2000. Deontay Vaughn, Steve Logan. So Jaren Cumberland is going to end up there when he goes. Hopefully he goes back to school. But yeah, we we we we had to make our name with defense and.

Yeah. You know, so I'm hoping that obviously we're able to get a little bit more elite talent to where we can score at a higher clip on a regular basis. But you still got to have the grit. OK, I wouldn't without the grit. Yes. So you're going to be able to recruit probably some more high profile players down here, some more explosive players on offense, like you said.

But how do you maintain that Midwest grit when you're down here in Los Angeles and perfect weather? You're always happy. Everyone's smiling all the time. I feel it's really healthy. Yeah. You guys haven't been to. There's a few neighborhoods you need to maybe take. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, some grit.

Yeah. But how do you how do you maintain that same kind of mentality in this totally new environment for you? Yeah, I would say, you know, that there's been some guys that played here that would probably take offense to the fact that, you know, L.A. or UCLA basketball would all be, you know, just about flash. And, you know, especially like my daughter's going to go to Campbell Hall High School, so the holidays, you know, Drew and Aaron, both playing in the NBA. Tough guys. In fact, Drew might be known as maybe the best guard.

Defensive guard. Yes, agreed. So I'm glad you listen. You know, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I absolutely. Lillard in the play. Yes. So I think, you know, there's more of those guys out here than, you know, so like one of our incoming freshmen, Jaime Hocquez, he's from up in Camarillo. You know, he's going to play from the Mexican national team this summer. So he's got the grit in him. That's a great name, too.

You like that? That's a that's a hell of a name. Well, you ought to see this guy, too, man. I'm jealous of him. He's got the Harry six, seven. Looks like a damn model. Listen, I'm not worried about your grit because I know you got grit. The Cincinnati thing, I got to say the my favorite thing that you did this past year was when you held open trials. Now, did you actually so tell that story?

You basically you've lost to Houston. You got in front of the press. You said our team is soft. I'm holding open tryouts. All the football players can come out and just beat them up and be on this team. Did you actually do it? You know, none of the none of the football guys showed up. I think they might be out of shape.

The problem is it got to show up or is on the track team. Yeah, I didn't think he was going to help our toughness. Yeah, at all. But yeah, you know, it's funny, you know, a lot was made of that. I think some people back at media guys took shots at me for that back in Cincinnati. But then they I didn't hear from them because we went one to conference tournament. Right. So, you know, sometimes in the media, look, we're all we're just trying to send a message to our team and to our fans.

You know, if we're going to lose, we're going to lose our way, which is playing hard, making sure we don't get out hustled out tough. And that I was a little upset. You know, we I can't count on one. I can probably count on one hand a number of home games. We lost in my last five years at Cincinnati. So I think that's a big part. You just have to set that tone like you can't lose at home.

If you're going to build a real program, you've got to plan a flag in your home arena. So if we lost at home, I said a lot of crazy stuff after a loss at home. Yeah, absolutely. So that's like tuning in to McCronen if they ever lose at home. Exactly. I like that. I like that. And how quickly did the team respond after that? Well, we won the conference tournament the next week. So a week later, we beat Houston by by double figures, 15 or 16.

And they had a great basketball team. And we we we controlled the tempo, controlled the backboard. We were the better, tougher team, the better defensive team. That was the only way you're going to beat them. They had an elite team and they're one possession away from beating Kentucky. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So you in your press conference as well at UCLA, you did a classic name on the front of the jersey, not on the back.

You actually like they showed the picture and you turned it around for more pictures because you're like, I don't want the name on the back. Yeah, it's, you know, you got it. It's not about it's not about you. I think you got to realize it's about the program. What is the program? It's the university. First of all, you represent your university here. Obviously, you guys talked about how nice it is.

So you're helping my recruiting. There's no better campus. No, it's beautiful. It's it's absolutely gorgeous. Good luck trying to afford a house down the street. Yeah. But yeah, it's it's it's that I mean, when your campus has butted up to to Bel Air, it's pretty nice. Yeah. And you so you did that move. You did like the I think you actually might be a football coach

inside of a basketball coach's body because you did the name on the front. And then you did the classic. I'm not the boss of my own house. My daughter is. That's a fact. That is a that is a total. She's in total control. So you had to sign off on the move. But I've been bringing here on vacation for so many years.

OK, you know, buttern her up in case the day ever came. I got the job. Yeah, there was no real objection. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, other than a few, you know, she's going to miss a few of her friends. But, you know, I I'm letting her pick. I told her I'll let you get on realtor.com. Pick the house. There you go. So was it weird?

The whole UCLA coaching hire knowing that like publicly knowing you're like the sixth best option for them. Well, I think I was the first best option. OK. So but but yeah, I know the way it all played out was crazy. Right. I mean, you can't control stuff like that. So we just talked. Would we talk about a little bit? Some guys got raises, you know, like our boy,

Ed Cooley just got a nice raise. Yep. Cools, you owe me dinner. Yeah. Buzz Williams just went to Texas. Oh, Buzz left. He got a big raise. Yeah. I mean, this is our guy. So you might you might actually get another raise. Buzz is my guy. Now, he's got no state tax. Yes. So he's true.

Make sure he needs to donate to buy a new van. Yes. Yes. You need to buy a new. You're back. Yes. Come on. Let's go. He acts like, you know, Buzz got no neck. So he looks like the grittiest coach in America. Yes. He's my guy. Yes. Yes. But buzz the best.

Yeah. You're a pretty gritty guy, too, though. I read that coming up through high school, you were what, like five foot three when you were when you were playing. Is that correct? Or is it a Wikipedia line to me? I've been I've been five. Yes, somebody did that as a joke. Somebody told me that was on there.

So I've been five, seven since sixth grade. Who? You're a center. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I haven't had a growth spurt since I was 12. Damn. Same. That's tough. Yeah. I'm with you, man. So, you know the feeling. I do. Yeah. Yeah. I actually played quarterback and middle linebacker,

if you guys can imagine. Oh, OK. I mean, I was close to the weight limit for my sixth grade team one time. You're here's another thing. Pft. He's a coach's son. Yeah. So it's like you literally are just a football coach just walking around, but you just like playing basketball. Yeah, I don't know them.

You know, I was I was teased my players at Cincinnati. You know, guys act tough, they're big or strong, you know, but it's a little bit different to put on a helmet. You got to start, you know, guys who put on a helmet until you've had a crack, been cracked back. Yes, yes. Like you really don't know what playing for, you know, I remember the moment the first time

I got blindsided me when I was playing junior high football. I'll never forget it. But then you realize, OK, when you caught your breath, OK, I'm alive. And then then you realize, start hitting and quit being hit. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody gets got some time. And actually, when when I was playing back in my day, I felt better after I got hit. I did.

You're like, it gets rid of all the cobwebs. Yeah, just makes you feel alive. It makes you focus. It makes you focus on what's important. Of course, I'd rather get be the, you know, guy who hits. I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that. So I took the job. You got to live one.

I'd rather with one day is a lion than a thousand is a lamb. Oh, right. That's right. That's down right there. So the other thing I wanted to bring up was you another classic like grit coach thing that you did was you basically had coaching almost kill you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a true coach like, well, the job almost killed me. Yeah. Well, they yeah, it's crazy.

I had a thing called arterial dissection and it's about five years ago. They still don't know they have no idea. It's like getting hit by lightning. OK, so they nobody knows what caused it. But yeah, I had to like step back BGM for like three months. And what did you do during that time? Yeah, I heard a rumor that you drove around and listened to the games on radio. Yeah, the road games. OK.

Yeah, I was going stir crazy. But we were at home. Let's just say I was probably a little more involved than my doctors wanted me to be. OK, OK. Yeah, with, you know, still I was still running the program. I might have, after a loss, come into practice and kicked all the balls off the rack. With an aneurysm. Yeah, you know, some of that stuff may may have, you know, we can.

I can admit a few of those. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we look back. Was blood pressure like a trigger in fact, if it was a doctor. No, they don't know they like because they don't know when it happened. We just know it caused me to have a piercing headache and it found it. So they wanted me to just lay low, let it heal. I feel like blowing off some steam, though, is probably good for it. Yeah, I don't want to have that build up. Yeah. Yeah, there's exactly.

Yeah. So so when you would drive, you would listen to the road games, would you drive around and just I mean, I feel like that would get my road rage up. But yeah, during a road game, it was that was the hard. It was like, you know, you've heard it. So Jerry West couldn't watch. Yeah, so that's what I felt like. Yeah, I mean, it got to a point. It was painful to watch the game. Right. It was it was tough. Right, because you can't be involved in it.

I was fine, you know, so being a divorced parent when Sammy was with me, I was good because I had to act. I had to act right. Appropriate. Yeah, she would yell at me. Yes. She was in charge of keeping me under. But if she was at her mom's, then I was a mess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was that was the tough ones. I got a question that's more about more about X's and O's, really. So we're football guys, we pay.

I know I at least pay a little closer attention to college football than college basketball, but it seems like college football is like a it's like a little Petri dish for creativity that eventually trickles its way up to the NFL. It has been. Yeah, as far as coaching goes, do you find that it's the same thing in basketball or is it the NBA that's more influencing the college game? Probably both in our game. Now, the I would say the difference is our game, we have different rules, right?

The three point line is different and the shot clock is different. Right. And with the because of the shot clock, six seconds is an eternity because our guys can't even they can't even create the shots, let alone make some of the shots pro guys take. So our games are, I think, very much are different than the pro football in college. I think they're more similar to each other because because of the two differences I pointed out.

And the talent level, I think, stops us from being able to do some things. I gotta give you a pro guys all say, oh, you guys in college got to learn how to run pick and roll better. Well, the problem, guys, we don't you have the 30 best point guards in the world start starting for you. And if our guy was good enough, that good at running the pick and roll, he would leave and he'd be in your league. Right. So it's it's we don't have some of the week.

Our guys can't make some of the plays, but there are things. I think some of the stuff that's gone up from college to the NBA level is the switching and defense. OK, I think that would be one thing that's gone up that they do, especially in the playoffs, but it's trickling to the regular season where they're starting to switch a lot more because there's the league is such a shooting league now in the NBA. I think what's coming down for us is we've got to shoot the ball better.

And I think you'll see guys that can't shoot or in the next 20 years, there's going to get phased out, you know, just the athletic wing. Right. Right. Because everyone's got to shoot now. It's just in our line is going back. It'll become official here at the end of the month. So I'll give you a little scoop here in the grit van. Oh, wow. So we're going to the FIBA line. OK. OK.

OK. Yeah, the line is going. So it's a foot and a half. Yeah. Not in the corners, but a foot and a half out at the top of the key difference. So you're going to even be worse at shooting than you usually are. Well, it'll be interesting. Yeah. I think, you know, so the theory is that it'll open the floor up more. I'd agree with that. But again, are you going to stretch your defense if guys can't make the shot?

Right. Right. So you have coaches that think it's going to be great. You have coaches that think, well, it's just going to be less guys can make it. So it's going to be it's going to be uglier. Right. Well, I mean, I'm sure it would adjust. And you saw like a team like Auburn this year, who everyone could kind of shoot the three and that was a game changer for them. Because they didn't probably have the best.

They didn't have the most NBA talent, but they were all all could shoot the three and it stressed defenses out. That's it. Well, and at the look of the championship game, the shot making. Yeah, because both those teams are elite defensive right. She had the two best defensive teams, but the shot making was unbelievable in that game. So I think, look, you got to do all three.

You got to be able to defend and you got to be able to score. And I think rebounding is a big factor as well. Yeah, I was going to say our game is, look, when the ball is loose, you guys are football guys, right? The ball is loose on every play in basketball. Like that would drive football coaches nuts. Right. See, the ball comes off the rim or the ball is on the floor, even when a guy is dribbling it.

So the ball is loose, literally half the game in basketball. Think about that. Yeah. So that's where hustle grit because who gets it when it comes? When the balls on Pat Riley used to say games are decided by what happens when the ball is on the floor or in the air, but in football, that's very rare. Yeah. Right. Now, you mean, if the ball hits the turf, everybody starts yelling fire, fumble ball, ball, ball, it's nuts.

Right. Right. But it happens all the time and hoops. But you do, I mean, your team's always rebound exceptionally well. Do you, when you, when you have a game where your team doesn't rebound well, is that like the most annoying thing that you have? Or is it maybe getting, not getting back on defense? What sticks in the Cronin's like craw the most? Besides my underwear, I would say, yeah, stuff like that.

Yeah. You know, I would say there's stuff like that. I would tell my team, look, I obviously haven't coached you to play hard enough. So you can't like, so you can't just say, well, that's a good, that's a good little nag right there. You're just like, clearly, I've failed at coaching you guys hard enough. It's like when parents are disappointed and they blame themselves. Right. My bad for taking these out on you guys, you got that. Yeah, I like that.

So just so you know, I'm going to have to do much more coaching at the next practice. That's a great way to say you can work on your own coaching skills. Yeah, obviously we're going to have, yeah, we're going to have, I'm going to have to do a much better job of holding you guys accountable for how hard we play. Yes, yes, yes. That would be the stuff that drives me. Have you thought about scheduling Xavier just so you can fight him?

That's the best question I've heard. It's six weeks of being a coach at UCLA. OK, that is the best question because I think you want to. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, we might have to. I mean, you did try to fight their whole bench. They're their fans. Yeah, you know, it's not every day you get, you know, told F off.

But, you know, they're fans. They really have an affinity for me. They do. They do. They would, I think they're, I think their fans would love if we scheduled a home and home. Yes. I don't know if I'd get out alive, though. I don't think so either. But it would be worth it.

It would be worth it. It would be unbelievable. I do not know if I would get out of that one. Great for recruiting, too. You get it. You get everyone talking about it. You know, macaroni going back to Cincinnati. That would be interesting. Yeah, that might be, you know, it's been tough, obviously, leaving program.

I spent 13 years building back up to national promise, prominence. But probably the best thing you just, I don't have to go back to. I don't even want to say the name. See, I don't I don't have to go back school. Bleep it out now. Bleep out the name Xavier. Do you do you miss the chili in Cincinnati? No. Well, you know, when you're in college, there's nothing, you know,

it's a little bit different. Yeah. When you're younger, your stomach can. Can handle. Yeah, you know, when your liver is strong. Yeah. And you have a night out with the guys and it's the only place open at 2 a.m. You hit, you know, you hit Gold Star Skyline. Yeah, you have a theory that just people from Cincinnati just say that they like it just as a joke on the rest of the world.

There's people that like I'll take Chris Mac. He loves it. Yeah. I asked him if he thought he was. I said, you mean that you understand we're not in college and we haven't had six beers. Mm hmm. You know, you're eating this sober. Love them. There's people that love it. Yeah, we're not the oyster crackers.

We were like one drop of hot sauce. That's OK. I can't get that anywhere else. Yeah. No, I would say here's there's two things. Cincinnati, Greater's ice cream. Oh, yes, that's actually fantastic here at Ralph. So that's I got that covered. And then my guys that own the Montgomery Inn, the ribs are the best by far the best.

It's because the sauce is the sauce. You got to put it on hot. So if you get the ribs, King, make sure you warm the sauce up. People, they don't know that. So but yeah, I can get those as well. So was there was there was there a lot of blowback from the Cincinnati community just because you are such a part of that community

when you took the job out here? So I wouldn't know. So April 9th, I got told my team, I was leaving at noon and got on a plane at 5 p.m. Packed and I went home packed as many clothes as I could. Got on a plane at five and I haven't been back. Interesting. So I've been living out of two bags of clothes. I've been stopping at stores in Santa Monica.

I think people are like, why is the coach at UCLA in here keeps keeps coming here buying underwear? In fact, you have a washing machine. Yeah, we haven't gotten there either. So I'm in a temporary apartment. So yeah, I've been living day to day. I mean, I'm in John Rambo mode. Yes, I like that.

That's pretty as it gets. Yeah, I have a suggestion. Well, first of all, let me ask you this. I got to go back and get clothes and sell my house. I haven't been back. Yeah, I hope everybody understands. Yeah, you know, I love Cincinnati. You had a job to do here

and you wanted to get started as soon as possible, right? Yeah, I just got too much work to do. Plus we're on the quarter system here. So we're still in school. Oh, OK. Yeah. So all those young girls who were looking at their own class, they were on class. Yeah, they're looking at this. I was wondering what they were looking at this van.

They're looking at this van. There's no smoke coming out of the windows. Yeah, they're like, oh, all the cops. This van should not be on campus. What would you do during a game if Drake came up behind you and rubbed your shoulders on the sidelines? I think I don't know. It'd be weird. Yeah, it is weird, isn't it?

Yeah, you saw that last night. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it this morning. Yeah, I'm still waking up at five because of the East Coast in me. But yeah, that was weird. Pretty strange. We'd better be up 20. Yeah, right. They were up. They were up 20. I actually have a suggestion for you. So Drake is kind of a bad luck curse.

Every team that he likes, they all lose. I've heard that. You should ban Drake preemptively from the stadium. Yes, that's a very gritty thing to do. Yeah, I don't know if that would help recruiting, though. Probably not. You probably want to. I got to talk to the fellas.

So like that, you know, I got a lot of returning guys or some of the guys on my team are all they're they're into the style. You know, we're in Hollywood, right? You know, they're into the style. Like I got players, they're they're dressed up like they're going to nightclubs, going to class, right? So they're going to up my style game here, coming after Jay, right? Yes. Oh, that you should wear suits.

You should go for it. Yeah, I'm going to come after him. He is the king. I'm in Hollywood. Yeah. So I'm going to help my players help with my style. Here's a little tip. You should get a you should get some fake hair and do a slick back pat Riley. Yeah, no, you got to be sick. If you just showed up with fake hair, that would be on like day one. You're like New Mac, New New Year, New Mac with the Riley wig.

Yeah, right. Maybe a spray tan. What are you what are you going to do about the whole sun thing that that's a problem? You got to wear hats, walking around. Yeah, because you are your pale. Yeah, you got to wear hats, walking around. Have you seen my billboards up? Yeah, I did. I saw one spray paint. They definitely tanned me up.

They don't want to like he's not an outsider. He's one of us. They just go up on that billboard, somebody out there and sprays some hair on top just to see what it would look like. If it looks sick, then you should do it. You would look awesome or I'll give you some of mine. No, you should do it. You've got to have enough confidence there.

You can't have the gene, Katie. But if you show up with it with a total becoming it over yourself. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. That's what I got. Yeah, well, he's got fake hair. We like him. Have you been to Lawrence? No, I want to go. He would fit it. He would. He would fit it. Yeah, I think he's a great one.

Yeah, yeah. All right. I got one last question. Seeky question put in promo code take you $10 off. Come to a UCLA game. Yes. The Pauli Pavilion is going to be rocking next year. Seeky promo code take. So we were talking before you got in the van. Our friend, Huggy Bear, who is basically a big mentor, I assume.

It's Cincinnati. What was the biggest lesson that Huggy Bear has taught you when you were a young coach on his staff? Worry about things that matter. I remember it like it was yesterday. He told me a lot of guys in our business they worry about what car they're getting with their contract. Things have nothing to do with winning.

Just focus on what you need to do to win. Focus on the players and what matters. There's a lot of guys, I think, can get sidetracked in our business. They can take your eye off the ball. There's so many other things going on. He was great at that and he still is great at that. Because as you can tell by the way he dresses, he only worries about basketball.

Yes, that's for sure. And, you know, it's funny, but it's true with him. I mean, he just he is who he is. And he worries about what matters and loves his players. Coach ball and he could care less about the rest. Yeah, no, he is. I think Huggy Bear is one of those coaches where you can tell the relationship he has with his players is very, very like genuine and very deep.

Yes, I try to get a care about some other stuff. Right. Yeah, like the fake hair that you get. Yeah, if I'm to get the wig, I've got to get. I would love to see you. Oh, man, buying underwear. You're trying to get you try to get some clothes. Clean underwear. You're trying to get some buzz into the UCLA program.

If you show up with the two pay, maybe some lifts, you're like six, four with hair. By the way, I'm not there's a few coaches out there. I'll tell you after the show that they were wearing lifts. Oh, that's good. That's good. Yes, you got a few. We got guys coloring. We got guys coloring.

The hair. Yeah, that's okay. You're going to need to. Oh, I already do. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. I don't right now. I have lapsed, but yeah. Oh, I admit that I I definitely on PEDs when it comes to the hair.

Tell me more about these lift things you put in your. Well, I would, you know, I just got to just go with your short Irish dude with no hair, you got to go with it. He's just you're like, oh, yeah. And you're not seen to women. You like now I'm in Hollywood. I want to get Jason's. I love movies, Jason Statham.

OK, you've seen the women. The guy hangs out with. Yes, and it's Hollywood. He's got no hair. Yeah, that's true. But you're wait. Did you just compare yourself to Jason? No, I'm hoping.

OK, got it. You should. It's like, you know, that's true. He's a bald man. Yeah, yeah, hero. Yes, yes, exactly. You look like you could be nicknamed the pit bull, though. You should lean into that.

Yeah, I'm tall. I'm a bulldog kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, and he's big time. Yes, yes, yes, worldwide. That's such a good spend zone for like a little dude that doesn't have hair. Just call yourself a bulldog. Yes, I like I like that guy.

That's he taller than him. You know, you might be. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you'll probably never meet him. So you can just say it. But Big Bang takes little bank. Yes, yes, he's the man. Yes, all right.

Mick Cronin, thank you so much. It's been awesome. It's great to be in the grid. Appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, and good luck to UCLA. I got to get better wheels in this, though, as the coach at UCLA. Yes, yes. I got a style a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, you got to get something nice. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thank you very much. Absolutely. You're a Pac-12 guy now. Yes, Conference of Champions. Bill Walton.

Yes, absolutely. You've got to be ready for Bill Walton. Yeah, have you talked to him yet? Oh, OK, all right, good. It's just like talking to him on the air. You guys, you guys are a funny pair. It's classy. Yes, you should put him on staff.

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We have recurring guest, good friend, Jay Glazer. It is brought to you by Body Armor, Drink Body Armor. We are drinking Body Armor all week. Thank you to Body Armor. We are at Jay's gym called Unbreakable. You just put us through a workout. We do this with every guest on Grit Week to find grit for us and do we have it.

Well, first of all, I'd like both of you guys drug testing now because, you know, clearly you guys are on all sorts of shit. I'm going to fail. I'm going to fail that drug test. I'm going to fail like a D minus. Marijuana is legal out here. No, I don't mean that kind of drug. Oh, OK.

Performance and answering. Yes, also. I think the rage is also you guys are throwing? Yeah. Pretty indicative of guys stacking a lot of stuff. Yes. Who's a better fighter? Me or Big Cat?

Define better. Well, 30 seconds of fury was what I had. And then I quit. And then I quit. Yeah. All right. But who's bad? Yeah, I'll put this way.

If we're getting into a fight with you, who do you punch first? Me or Big Cat? Whoever's closer. Mm, good answer. All right, so define grit to it for us. Tell us what grit means to you. What does grit mean to me?

Yeah. Pushing your breaking points so you could do stuff at the rest of the world will tap out from when you're just you're the last dude standing. OK. When was the last time you were pushed to your breaking point? Every day by the own by my roommates in my head. Are you kidding me?

Oh. Every morning I wake up and I'm like, oh boy. They're not doing the dishes? Jay Glazer we're going to get today. OK. Yeah. Yeah? Daily battle.

You've been saying that you use this gym almost as like therapy for yourself. Kind of half kidding about the roommates in my head. But yeah, I kind of need this place. I've always had like a crew or a fight team. I do. I push myself in so many different areas always have. And if I have like a crew behind me,

then that kind of that fight walking the walk is a little bit better. But in here, I've always felt like training mixed martial arts has always just made me a little bit different and kind of help curb the depression and the anxiety and those roommates that don't talk so nicely to each other sometimes. Right. And I've got it, man.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's really like exceptional what you're doing because you have this gym. It's we've been here for about an hour. We worked out. It's clearly like it's a very family style vibe. You walk in the door. People walk in the door and everyone shouts out their name.

And they're like, what's up? And then you have your Warriors project where you have people and you're talking about mental health and it's unbelievable. MVP, yeah. And that's the thing. I've done the same thing here. So I've tried to create this fight team over here that I've always had.

I got involved and started wrestling in 1982, boxing in 86, mixed martial arts like 99, 2000. So I've always done something and I've always realized like some of the best talks I've had are in a cage after Randy Couture has beaten the dog shit out of me. Or Chuck Liddell has just destroyed me. And we sit and we talk about life like no one's questioned your man who is you going to be vulnerable and you can talk

about stuff. And then we've used the same premise of this this team like a locker room is great. Inside a locker room, you don't have any issues. You don't have despite what people say, there's no races and there's no people don't they'll talk about politics but nobody care. People care about one thing in a locker room, one color

that's silver. That's the ring or the trophy. That is it. And we're trying to do this same thing here. We have our vets and our players is give these guys will train them on Wednesday nights in the merging vets and players program for about a half hour. But then after we sit and we talk about life,

we got each other vulnerable and we talk about why the uniform doesn't define you, why being alone, man, it sucks. And when uniform comes off, whether you're in the military or football player or fighter or an Olympian, whatever it is, all of a sudden that uniform comes off and you're by yourself. It's a scary world out there. Right. So we're trying to show these guys, no, you got a team

and we're trying to coach each other up. It's bad asses empowering other bad asses. We talk about why you shouldn't put a revolver in your mouth, why you shouldn't look at it as a football player like, oh man, I used to play in the NFL. No, dude, you play in the NFL. Right. And a uniform is not what defines you.

What's behind your rib cage that got you to beat out millions and millions and millions of people to make it in the NFL, that is who you are. And that's what you have to use in your next step of life. And similar vets, last week, we had two guys in here from a unit called the 2-7, the Marines, who just lost their 43rd, 44th, and 45th teammates to suicide. In one week, 45 people in one unit,

who else can they talk to this about? Right. They talk and they have 60 of their peers and now it can talk. And then we start getting into it. Why suicide is such a prevalent issue? We talk about a lot of its power suggestion. They see their teammates doing it and go, why not me? Right.

And it's not freaking OK. Right. Like, it's not OK to be one of the 22 vets a day who kill themselves or the people out there who are listening. There's so much hate on social media. People are, I think the soul is not used to it. People then compare in themselves to everyone's highlights and Instagram.

Instagram ain't the real world. So when you have a group that kind of reminds you of that and then hears you out and reminds you, like, killing yourself is not OK. Like, you never know what lies around next Tuesday. If you kill yourself, you're not here. You may save somebody else's life next week. So you've got to stick around for the rest of us.

All right, so you bring up social media, going to a little bit of a lighter topic here. We haven't talked to you. That wasn't live right there. We haven't talked to you since the Odell Beckham trade. Yes. You basically, like, took a shit down all of social media's mouth with the way you not only predicted it,

but then did a big time respect. Do you feel vindicated? Because you were getting, like, death threats and shit. And you could not have been more right. Wasn't death threats. They were just talking crap about me, my kid, my mom, my kid's mom, my mom's kids, which is my brother, by the way, not me.

And then they were going on, like, my friend's social media. And posting on their stuff, like, dude, I'm talking about your frigging football team. Right. And I'm right. And I'm right. How do you get that, like, what was the, you just get, you know, through sourcing?

You just heard that Odell was out there? For a while. Yeah. What's been going on? And I, you know, the thing that kind of took me by surprise most of this is, you guys know, I care about being right more than anything. Right.

I've got a lot of big scoops. I've got some of the biggest ever in the NFL. The Spygate video, and this, and that, and, you know, the end of the lockout, and pretty much all the farms, retirements, and, you know, and then un-retirements and all that. So when I say something, like, I thought I've earned it, or if I say something that's outlandish to the may sound,

you could take it to the bank. Right. And, like, I came on Fox NFL Sunday a few years ago, first week, said, no matter what happens this year, Jim Harbaugh will be out as head coach of the 49ers, even if they win the Super Bowl. And I got crushed for it, and then he was out. And I would think that just over time

that I built up enough trust and equity where people say, oh, crap, Glazer said it. Let's trust him before he's dead. They murdered me. Yeah, they did murder you. They killed me. They got you a big time, big time. Oh, my god, it was unreal.

I'm not used to it. That day that I tweeted that out, I just got done in here sparring. I was a little ornery. You had the endorphins going, yes. Oh, yeah, you did. I was a little bit dickhead that day, no doubt. It was at Randy Couture's in here,

and we beat the hell out of each other. He brought a little more to me, and I was just a little ornery. And then I just saw them commenting on other people's pages. I'm like, this got to stop. So you're shit about my mom. Yeah, that was bullshit. I used to sport to give the shit. Yeah, so you're plugged into the Giants

better than probably anyone out there. I started my career in 1993. Are you surprised by the Daniel Jones stuff? Do you think Gettelman is going to last? Like, what would you say? Time frame. We never talked about another man's job, but like, is he on the hot seat already?

No, because the Giants don't operate that way. Right. Giants have more patience in the game than any team in the world. That's been McAdoo-Doo. No, no. GM's. GM's.

OK, GM's. GM's. GM's. Their GM has always made the picks. I think their team's ever successful. Seahawks. Everybody keeps thinking the Legion of Boom is dead, right? John Schneider will pick players.

Not that he wants, but Pete Carroll's going to use better. Right. Right. That's the mastery of a general manager using drafting players that my coach is going to get the best out of India's system. And some teams don't. Daniel Jones' thing.

Look, I think the Giants don't do a good job of finding out accurate information that other teams can do. Draft-wise, guys, there's a lot of information that's accurate that behind the scenes that we all kind of share, and we're information brokers. We know what's going on a lot. Right. I think they do a bad job of it.

So you think that Daniel Jones would not have been picked it, because that was the only thing gentlemen got up there, said other teams were interested. When he talked about the Redskins and the Broncos, no, that's not true. You think that. So you're saying that he easily could have gotten Daniel Jones at 17 or whatever.

I think they could have waited past six, yeah. To put the kind of pressure on them, where they're trying to legitimize this thing. Oh, he's Eli and Peyton. No, he's not. You're talking about Peyton Manning. Yeah. Right.

Are you kidding me? If he's Peyton Manning, that's draft choice of all time. Ever. In the history of life. Six. In the history of everness. Right. Don't do that to this kid, and you're

trying to validate your own, what your own. Like line of thinking. Yeah. Like compared to me, Eli and Peyton. That's like, oh yeah, we got this guy at 22. We got this guy in the sixth round. He's Tom Brady. No, he's not.

Right, right, right. So where would he have gone? Like you obviously know all the information. You know where guys were, teams were looking at. Who was looking at who. I was just surprised by their whole draft. Even, you know, you need pass rushers. There are pass rushers right up there.

They need a lot of help to go, and especially what to get them to say. We're going to get somebody that's going to help our team right now. That's not Daniel Jones. No. No, the de-tackle he chose could be a great player, but he's more of a first and second down player.

Yeah. And he also, they traded stacks Harrison, and like it's, it was all just very strange to me. Yeah. And the Daniel Jones thing, like it just felt like you could have gotten him a lot later. Yes, I agree with you on that. Right.

So you think just about every other team had Dwayne Haskins above Daniel Jones? No, no. So teams were all over the place on these quarterbacks. They all had Murray won, but they all had Kyler Murray going, we don't know. Like we've never seen this before. Yeah.

No, he's, we've never seen a guy this short. And this, I know we're talking about his weight being too, no, it's, he's different than we've seen. So, but everybody had him up there. And then after that, it was potluck. It was, some people had Daniel Jones too. Some people had him five. Some people had Haskins too.

Some people had Locke too. Some people had Haskins five at Locke six. It was just, Will Greer was floating around in there. There's, you know, they were so all over the place on these guys. And if you put any of those guys in last year's draft, I don't think any of them, except Kyler would have been a first run pick.

Yeah. That was the whole thing that made no sense to me. You had guys who were ranking like Dwayne Haskins, Daniel Jones, behind Josh Rosen from last year's draft. I don't understand why Johnson didn't do that. Right. Again, they, but they think Daniel Jones is going to be their next Eli Manning.

So, okay, you're going to go live and die with that. I just think they're putting too much pressure on that kid. It wasn't, they got to stop with that. He just looks a lot like Eli. It's why I've been speculating how you can run with us on your own if you can get back at Johnson. I get Brad Pitt all the time, but it doesn't mean I act like him.

Yeah. It's clear, right? You can see it, right? Absolutely. Matthew McHoney. Except you always talk about fight club. That's the only thing you talk about is your fight club. Yeah.

That's a good point. Very good. But if these guys are getting paid a big bunch. Right. So, they're calling them the next Eli Manning. I actually think there's a chance that he's Archie Manning's illegitimate child. I'm so not touching that.

So just like, I'm so not touching that. Look into it. He's drinking from his drink right now. He's getting nervous. I'm going to swap. We'll do a 23 in me. He's biting his lip. Nugget.

And then you'll do a 23. Develop that nugget later on. I want to get it back into some brown stuff real quick, because they've made so much noise in the off season. They were very good, at least for the Browns, the second half of the year last year. They got this new coach that apparently everybody loves. He's hilarious.

Got a great quarterback. He is hilarious. I feel like we need to pump the brakes. For the sake of Cleveland fans out there, we're already kind of anointing them as Super Bowl contenders. And I just don't want to see that town gets heartbroken. Yeah, I agree with you there. But I think anything over like four wins right now

would be like, yes. Yeah. And that's the biggest thing. You always tell a head coach when they get a job to, I always give this advice to them or GM, like make sure you really sell low. In a fall of a sudden, you make the play. Great.

But make sure you tell your owner, oh, we suck. Like nonstop, your job is to make sure we suck. Man, we got to rebuild. That's why we got a coaching change. We really got to rebuild here. And they've forgotten that for two years, they won one game. They quickly forgot that. Now, I'll say this.

On paper, yeah, they're a strong team. Their personnel is phenomenal. And I do think if there's one guy who can, everybody's saying, oh, how are you going to fit the personalities? Baker Mayfield is a gangster. He's not going to handle people trying to, me, me, me, I want the ball. He's going to put it where it needs to go. And he's going to control that locker room.

He's bigger is different, man. He's special. Do you make anything of the Odell just not showing up to the OTAs? Or do you think that's? I think Odell likes the rest of his life. Right. I always don't. I always come in.

He was in France when I called him and told him he got traded. Right. And he was like, oh, I'm not going back there to take the physical. Right. Right. Because I always go back and forth because I think there is something to be said for guys that, especially a new team, new playbook, all that stuff.

But I agree with you on that. There are also, there's the other part of me that's like, hey, if you want to make it mandatory, just make it mandatory. It's not mandatory. So you can't tell. Well, then I'm allowed to, but yeah, if I'm on a new team, like football is a thinking man's game. You've got to absolutely the great ones.

Man, they have you figure it out before the snap. Let's say D friends run past, you know, which side it's going to go. What your snap count is because they constantly film work, film work, film work, film work, film work. It's nonstop. And they take a lot of the guessing out of it. So yeah, you've got to, especially with a new team, you want to be really on page with your quarterback.

You're off your new head coach, your coordinators. You're just be part of the culture there. Absolutely. Right. We've got you here. I feel like we need to tap into Jay Glazer and his sources. Have you seen the Bob Kraft tape? No, nor do I want to.

Like for all the people. For all the people. We're all counting on you. Why the hell would I possibly want that? We're sitting here on the map. You had this. Why would anybody? Yeah.

Why would anybody? Because he was trying to get that out there. I have no interest. Zero. I do. Do you have another old Jewish man? We'll look at it. Absolutely not.

How about this? Even if I did, I'd burn him because I couldn't. I couldn't unsee that. Well, yeah. We'll just send us. Yeah. You guys want that? Yeah.

Yeah. Can you get it for us? We'll see what I can do. Has anybody approached you and said I have access? No, I have really made it clear. I want nothing to do with that. OK. I want zero to do with it.

Don't send Jay the tape. That's like a reverse Viagra. I don't think I can get over that for a while. Yeah, wink, wink. I think I have issues after that one. Because somebody's going to have it. Somebody's going to get it eventually. They're going to leak.

But wouldn't you rather you be the one to have it? No, I certainly don't. OK. You're not about to skew play. No. All right. You're going to watch it. If it comes out.

No. If Adam Schefter tweets out the video, you are going to click on it. It certainly won't. I promise you, you know the whole death taxes thing? Forget that. It's one thing I'll never do in life. Just watch Bob Crouch's episode.

All right, I'm going to send it to you when I get it. Zero. You can send it. I'm going to be like, hey, dude, check it out. Yeah, you have to send it. You know how we all send each other the stupid stuff on text? Like, hey, look at my kid at a softball game. And bam.

Bam. That's what you have to do. And then I will check myself in a facility. And get my vendor replacement service. 12 hours to get that image. 12 hours straight. Can you give us a Jay Glazer exclusive? Give us something that you're brewing on.

You have the Odo back, you have the Jim Harbaugh, some prediction that's coming. Maybe it doesn't have to be a, this is going to happen, but this could happen. Don't be surprised if this happens. Tom Brady retires. You know, I'm on the spot here. I got to think about it.

I don't know. OK. Gronk returns. No. Huh? No, I think he's going to like this. I think Gronk, what's the training wheels come off? At one point, I could see him go, you know what?

We're close. Yeah. I need three games. Like November. Why not? Right. Right. Why not?

Ooh, Dak Prescott doesn't get re-signed by the Cowboys. No, he'll get re-signed. OK. See, Dak, I think Dak gets an awful lot of shit, but isn't appreciated. He's a leader. He affects everybody else in that locker room, more than we know.

Like he is constantly, look, Dallas Cowboys locker room is different than everything else. Every single person in there is the center for the Lakers, or the center fielder for the Yankees, or every shortstop for the Red Sox, every single person in there. There is so much that goes on in there. And that's why the Troy Hickman's of the world,

it's unreal what they've been able to do in this non-stop drama, whether they want it or not. It's unbelievable. Dak is worth paying. OK, think about it, and maybe you have it coming up to you. I have an idea for you as well. I'm a little punchy today. Entourage, ballers, a part of ballers.

We found that here for three episodes right over there. OK. This season. Also, this place used to be the Roxy. Right at the Rocksbury. The Rocksbury. Right at the Rocksbury. Well, Ferrell, you meet, you meet, you meet.

Maybe it was like a secret tunnel. Are you guys brothers? No. Yes. All right, so. There's a secret tunnel that goes from Chateau Marmont, which is next door, over to here. Really?

That they used to like, in prohibition days, get people out and get like the rat back out and. Chateau Marmont is where John Belushi died. And yeah, it's like the Kennedy White House. Yes. Making girls in and out of this place. All right, so we remake ballers. So so we had entourage, then it went to ballers.

So it was basically entourage for sports. What about entourage for podcasters, newsbreakers? Absolutely. So like episode one would be going at you for Odell Beckham. Right. And we have to show up and and fight them off with our words. Nobody talks about baby bro that way. Let's fucking do.

Let's do a podcast. Let's do it. And we'll fight off all the haters. I think I love that idea. OK, so I think that I think the space needs that. Yeah. And then the other half of the show, just with Hartburn, we'll combine the show.

Harper. Yeah, we just eat a lot of wings during it. And then the last 10 minutes. And then Tom's. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. I don't know if I can work out. Go out and podcast.

To kill in Tom's. Then we eat wings and then we eat Tom's. I think I think I think you guys have a hit on your hands. Yeah. Yeah. And chicken. And you know what's going to happen? No, oh, that would never happen because it's so outlandish.

But but but the way we write it. They made ballers. They made ballers. Yeah, they got bad ideas all the time. I think in the glamour slides of the pod. Well, we would think we did ballers. People are like, oh, that would never happen. I'm going, that is tame.

This is a G movie compared to what really goes on in the league. Are you kidding me? Jay, we love you. You are always a great guest on the show. And you have you're a very genuine person. Sometimes you get kind of overboard in your Jay glazerness and you you fire out some suggestions that are good, but also hilarious

at the same time. And I think you might know where I'm going with this one. I have no clue. OK, so in an article, you wrote an article like three months ago and you said that in order for the NFL to fix its refereeing problem, they suggest fire all the refs and hire nothing but combat veterans special ops, special ops and teach them how to officiate football games.

Damn right. I'd be worse than this right now. Well, I think it could really. I think well, so the refs that are reffing right now, they've been reffing for like 20, 30 years sometimes 80. They've got you really think that like if we just turned it over here is my referee's like a branch of the military. No, no, no.

Here's my point is that the reaction time for special ops guys are going to be better than these guys, right? You put them together as a team, right? Their athleticism is a little bit better. Plus they got, you know, you're serious. Bolts are flying. These guys react better by the way. And then on the sidelines when Bruce

Farage is motherfucking the hell out of him. He's going to be like, but he's maybe I'll just realize something. I think what Jay is doing is he's going to be able to if you get all of the special ops, he controls the refs. There we go. We can start throwing games. We're millionaires.

It's a great idea. Just fantasy football. I definitely had an idea. Only fantasy football. Yes. Just special ops, Navy SEALs. How do you guys not think that's just a phenomenal idea? Well, because they haven't watched football their whole

life. No, you guys, you know football for 20 years. There's a bunch of special ops guys who played football. Yeah. A ton of them. OK. I mean, it's one of those perfect ideas that's crazy, but has like a kernel of truth in it.

So that you can convince yourself. I'm not saying guys who don't know football, guys who've played football, guys who understand it. Do we have enough of those guys to stash? Sure, absolutely. A full NFL Sunday. Brian stands the world. He was captain of Annapolis's football team.

And Navy football. Quarterback and play middle linebacker. But then we can't bitch about the refs. And that's like my favorite thing in the world to do. That's what you can. They're just going to beat the hot air or shoot you for a mile out. That's not fair. I don't want to do that.

I don't want to do that. All right. I have one last question. Seeky question. But what other dumb shit did I say you're going to get me on? No, that's that's that was the most over the top thing I've done. That's pretty over the top anymore.

Fire all the officials and stuff. You basically stole the military like being with that. Yeah, that's pretty wide. That is his like that's something he would tweet. I would tweet that joke. Yeah, but you're serious. You're dead serious. I'm serious.

Yeah. And now you know, now I've explained it a little. No, I don't make a little bit more sense. No, I don't really know. I know. I understand. I just you also have to make sure that there are no jobs. Why would they affect so much?

I know NFL ref sucks as a job. Do you think how would you want to work three days a week and you get paid six figures? You know that. Yeah. Well, don't fuck up. You won't get yelled at. OK, OK.

I mean, have you ever been screamed at by like by Pete Carroll on the sidelines? His gums just flying out of his mouth. I think he would be screaming at you. He's like doing a playful way. And he read ever told you he's disappointed in you. That would suck. That would be worse.

It was like I'm very. Bruce Aaron is the guy who gets after a murder. Motherfucker. You got to talk to Dean Blandon about that. OK. He'll call and motherfucking over games and constantly guys will call the head of officiating coaches. Let's say they're watching Sunday night.

You know, Fox is late game on Sunday and they're not playing till Monday night. They'll call the head of officiating and bitch about a game they're watching on TV. They got zero to do with them. Yeah. And just go off on these guys. Yeah.

All right. Last question. Seakeak question. Promo code take you $10 off Seakeak purchase. Go to an NFL game. Insider to insider. What are you hearing about a possible comeback for Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler?

A lot of buzz. Oh, there's an awful lot of buzz about that. Yeah. So the XFL is starting. And no, seriously, though, have you heard anything? No. No, actually, I have. But I've been waiting.

I've been sitting on it. And look at you guys. You guys. Jay Cutler. I got to make sure I got to make sure that my sources are right on this. No, I haven't heard. OK.

Fuck. I thought I was going to maybe we should check up on. But I'm going to I don't want to take them all. Start texting it, though. No, start texting people. You're hearing about Jay. And I could like love you guys up like, damn, these guys are really on their shit.

Well, Jay to Jay. All right, Jay. I got I do have one last one. Kind of a serious one because we struggle with it sometimes. So we have we have friendships in the biz. And people that we're friendly with, specifically a guy like Blake Bortles or Jerry Goff, who we were just with on Sunday night, you have a lot of friendships in the biz.

Does that affect what scoops, what stories you can break? It's a good very good question. Thank you. Good question. Thanks. When I started this business, I decided a long time ago. Thank you. I'm going to be I'm going to go for the relationship instead of the scoop, right? If you go for the scoop and you burn it, look,

if a guy says to me, I'm going to tell you this, but it's off the record. You can't repeat it. It's nothing I could do. It's off the record. I can't repeat it. Too often, you'll have a reporter go, that's too juicy. I got to go with it. But how often do you really remember the scoops

that insiders have had? So now I've burned this relationship for the rest of my life on that same tip. So you've got guys like, I don't want to name names, but you're about to name them like Silver and Hugh Jackson, a guy that will very clearly like attack anybody that attacks his good friend Hugh Jackson. How do you manage that?

Like, will you go after somebody? Not my relationship. I'm good. Yeah. All right. There you go. Perfect game. Like it's not much. Yeah, there are like some of the attack of my friends. No, they're yeah.

No, yeah, we not like that. You got it like that. Yeah. You got her back. Yeah, you got her back. Absolutely. Yes, forever. Find anybody. We got your back. We got your back.

Absolutely. And Leroy. Yes. Anybody mess with you guys? I got you. Two seconds. Okay. Jay Blazer. Thank you so much.

Your gym is awesome. Appreciate it. Hey, did you guys I didn't make you throw up, though. So I'm a little disappointed. I threw up a little. In my mouth. In your mouth. Yeah, in my mouth.

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New segment alert. You say we learn Hank just asking questions, just asking questions. The provocateur is back at it. So it started the backstory is Chris Long admitted to smoking weed. He is probably the worst role model of all time. We should give back to Walter Payton, man of the year. Oh, actually, you know what he should do? He should turn the trophy into a bong.

Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be sick. By the way, Chris Long, smoking weed like, oh, you think? Have you heard him on our podcast? Come on, man. He slows fuck. Chris Bohn. No, Chris Long is the man. And if you don't smoke weed, I don't.

I mean, my firefight is not smoking enough weed this week. But Danny Cannell, forever the provocateur and also just general idiot had the hot take. I don't have it in front of me. I got it. Socks. Here's his tweet. When did marijuana become, quote, good for you? Crazy how fast certain narratives move in our society with little or no

scientific proof. Is it better than opioids? Probably. But let's slow down treating weed like a wonder drug with no downside risks. OK. Good call, Danny. It's probably better than opioids. Probably better than the thing that kills 70,000 people a year and was basically created by doctors and big health care to make a shitload

of money at the expense of people getting cooked to very, very addictive drugs. But probably they saw heroin and they were like, how can we write a prescription? How can we put it in a little yellow pill and sell it to America? And then we'll we'll give them small dosages after their surgeries and then we'll keep giving them a prescription until they have to get really strong stuff and it'll be fine. Hold on. Hold on. I didn't even see this.

We have to listen to this. This is unedited. Like, we're going to listen to this live because I just saw this. Hank, give me your mic. Danny Cannell tweeted to everyone who said marijuana has zero side effects and no risks. People listen to Mike, who called in the show today. I'd say he gives a different perspective.

I have no idea what's going to happen here. He's probably going to be like eight fucking Doritos and and jerked off into a sock. I think the worst. It was the fucking terrible worst risk is you watch a movie that you think is really funny and then you recommend it to your friends. And it turns out that it sucks. Now, that is the worst thing that now warning here. Again, we have not listened to this.

So this could really suck if he actually had something really bad happen to him. But we're going to take that risk or with Danny. I've got five kids and I've got one boy who has had extensive marijuana use. It's robbed him of any incentive. It's robbed him. Sounds pretty true. Marrants.

He's just a kid that's going nowhere. When I hear people say that marijuana would have taken a total and complete lie. It's robbed people of any. I can't think of the right word. Maybe you can come up with it. You know, wanting to succeed, wanting to better oneself, wanting to be a success. And I've seen what it's done.

So I for my kids are fantastic. When the asshole threw the. For one, he just going. I don't know. Because he has no incentive. And so you're absolutely right. I don't want to hear Chris Long. I went to Villanova.

I actually know how. Oh, oh, name's Rob. The same there. I was a swimmer. Oh, OK. And he's a wonderful kid. He's a wonderful kid. But I don't want to hear this crap about marijuana, not doing harm to people.

I've seen it. It does terrible harm. My son dropped out of the Boy Scouts before earning his Eagle badge. Oh, my God. That was way better. Because I thought there was like a chance he'd be like, you know, my son smoked marijuana and crashed his car. Fuck, we fucked this one up.

I'm glad we listened to it because that was unbelievable. Not only is it unbelievable because it sounds like his son is probably like a pretty chilled dude. Sounds like his son is Big Lebowski. His son just got the dude. Yeah, his son was like, wow, now I'm well adjusted. I realize that my dad sucks. Yeah, my dad's a dick.

So guess what I'm not going to do? Try to do shit to make him happy. Yeah. But yeah, the other part about this is that Danny Cannell just moved the goalpost because we were clearly talking about NFL as a substitute for opioids for NFL players. And now we have the marijuana is bad for shithead. 16 year olds that way to go. Danny, you fucking that was a masterclass move by you.

That was probably just Danny doing like a voice. The craziest thing is I actually kind of like Danny Cannell because he does like he does do the provocateur. But every now and then he actually he will think about things differently. But this one, he could not be more wrong. He's just asking questions. He's just asking questions. Danny Cannell. All right, next up, we have what I got for before my kids are

phenomenal. Oh, and I tell you that I knew how he long. Try to get him. Try to get him to clean his room impossible. His mom can't wake him up earlier than 9 30 in the morning. It's fucking nightmare. He eats all the fucking lucky charms. He doesn't come to my jazz drum recitals.

He won't have a catch with me. He's 28, but it's still he won't have a catch with me. All right, forever online. Kevin Rant, he's still fighting Chris Bressard. This is ridiculous. So well, actually, Bressard is actually fighting Kevin Rant. Match up with the Titans. Bressard did the classic thing where he did a Twitter video where he pretended

he was still he was doing like a public service announcement, like an alarm you get on your phone, just screaming into the phone, trying to do a TV hit on his phone. And he says that Kevin Rant and he exchanged many DMS and sometimes up to five hours of conversations. And if you want to debate if a DM counts as a text, he's not having it. It's it's probably the greatest technicality since Darren Revelle said he's never listened to part of my take when he clips of it.

It's all one song. If you're communicating with somebody, whether it's DM on Instagram, DM on Twitter, a phone call, a text, an in person conversation. It's all just a text now. Everything is a text with him. I am on team Broussard side on that on that technicality, technicality. Correct. Agreed.

However, however, Chris Broussard went at Kevin Durant earlier this week. And like was poking him and saying that this season is like a way to say it's a disaster. It's the worst possible situation for Kevin Durant. Right. And Kevin was like, well, not that I can think of worse situations. Yes. Point Kevin.

Point Kevin. But I'm sorry. I know you're in the brew crew and you want to get I mean, I'm in the brew crew and I'm also I'm also probably a baby back bitch crew to guy too. So I'm my heart is torn. I mean, I Kevin Durant is in the baby back bitch crew. Well, I mean, he is a baby back bitch. And I kind of like here's where it comes down to never reply online

because you'll always lose. But if you do reply and you're going to be the reply guy, you might as well just go like full reply all the time like Kevin Durant. Yep. Like he there's no turning back the clock for Kevin Durant. He can never he can't be like, hey, guys, never win an argument online. I'm done with this. Like, no, dude, you're not done with this.

You have to Kevin Durant will be on his deathbed. Wait, like 70 years fighting someone in his Instagram DMs. Does this count as texting since they're tweeting at each other? I think they're still texting now. We just all get to see it. Yes. Correct. That's pretty cool.

A text is a tweet, a DM, an Instagram DM, an Instagram comment. So I've I've texted with a lot of porn stars. Yeah, that's pretty sick. Not to brag. Let me see your feet. I'm starting to realize that, damn, I've done a lot of comments here and there, you know, all right, let's do let's finish up with Saber Metrics. Brian Gumbel, he's mad about Saber Metrics PFT.

Yeah, he's trying to kill Saber Metrics. Here's the thing. When Brian Gumbel starts to call people nerds, it's time to reconsider your position. Yes, Brian Gumbel, if he's on that train, yeah, I think I'm anti Saber Metrics. So he said, uh, uh, talking about the game of baseball, how, how numbers have always been so important, but how ironic then that the same obsession with numbers that once made the game of national pastime is now complicating its problems, much of the blame can be traced to the modern preoccupation with the

silly numbers produced by the analytical folks who value metrics that do little more than cloud of players image. These are quotes. It's a troubling mentality that somehow rewards a pitcher for winning only 10 games, but diminishes a hitter who bats 300. So Brian Gumbel is mad that we, he doesn't like, he actually, Brian Gumbel thinks that Jacob DeGramm getting the Cy Young last year when he pitched one of the best seasons, like in the last 25 years was a travesty because he only won

10 games because the Mets were shitty. Yeah. So he said it doesn't reward players for no 10 games. Well, I think he's talking about the Cy Young. Yeah, but that he's not getting the reward for winning 10 games. Right. He's getting the reward literally everything else. Incredibly.

The 10 literally everything. Yeah. Winning 10 games is the part where it sucked for him because he should have won 20. Right. Yeah. So I think, I think he might be a little confused. I think he's, I think what Brian Gumbel, this happens a lot of times in media where they like, think they're making the right, they're like somewhere near the right

point, but they've put their old man's spit on it because there is an element of guys are now with like analytics and launch angle and all this bullshit guys are just basically homerun, strike, underwalk and that does suck for baseball. But that has nothing to do with hitting 300 or winning 10 games. Right. If DeGramm was pitching in a way that like it was clear that he had less emphasis on winning the game and doing something else besides trying to win the game, then yes, I would absolutely agree.

But here's the thing about baseball in particular, every single generation just comes up with new numbers and new ways to look at the statistics. And they make all the previous generation be like, no, our numbers are better than yours, but they did the exact same thing when they were coming up. Right. Right. So like the next generation after us, they're going to have all sorts of weird shit that I'm not going to like.

Of course. Like, no, my Bapip, my war, my on base percentage, those are the real numbers. Yes. And then they're going to call me an old man for thinking that. Just go back to RBI. So whoever has the most RBI wins the World Series. In the game. Yes.

In the game. Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's, that is pretty close to true. No, it literally. The team who has the most RBI. Yes. Yeah. So I'm not even counting runs anymore.

Yeah. RBI's are actually the most important stat when you actually look at it. Agreed. Yeah. Hank, FAQs with special guest Charles. Yes. Or this guy, this was, he just met us this week and he spent basically all week with us like every hour.

Yeah. Totally. Where did you live close to here? Not at all. Okay. So you've been just traveling nonstop, uh, very busy week for Charles. It's been awesome. Also, if I called you Spencer at any moment this week, I apologize.

That was our last sound guy's name. Cool. And I just was like, I don't know why I thought that. Not in LA. I don't think I did. I think I always, I was looking out for Charles. You just called you Spencer behind your back. No, I was like, yeah, we're Spencer.

And everyone was like, what are you talking about? Like I met Charles. All right, Charles. First question is in one sentence, how would you describe the PMT? Uh, in one sentence, use many sentences. Don't use one. Use your words. Yeah.

Part of my take is like, uh, a legit conversation about sport. I mean, like, look, honestly, I don't know jack all about sports, but I find myself listening to a lot more spot sports commentary than I should. Right. I mean, like I listened to a lot of talk radio, which is generally sports. Right. And it's, it's been awesome guys. It's been a lot of fun.

Okay. Like that. Charles, when you first met PFT, how high did you think he was follow up to the PMT boys actually chief heavy? Uh, hard to tell because of the sunglasses. I will say that much. Uh, not as high as me. Okay.

Oh, there you go. The answer, the answer. Fuck dude, why haven't you been sharing it? Damn, no one asked. Nobody asked. You shit. Well, we don't smoke during show days, but we should smoke after. But yeah.

Oh, okay. Damn. Nobody told me that one. I know. Fuck. I wish I'd known that before. Did you get him? You shut my eyes this week though, right?

Only very rarely. Only tonight. They're pretty nice eyes, right? Don't. Yeah. Don't answer that question. Don't answer that question. Uh, if you had to drive that death trap of a van across the country, which one of

the three PMT guys would you take with you and why? Whoa. Four. Bubba too. He counts. Hmm. Bubba's probably a better driver. No, he's actually the worst driver by far.

Really? He actually. Oh, I was driving behind you for a while today and you were fucking. Yo, he was like, yes, wait, I was not reading. I was not which one went. Oh, yeah. That was when we had to get off the road so he could take a shit. No, on the way here.

Yeah, yeah, not a good job. Yeah. Well, that was quite a flexion. Here we go. Do we've got any of these, but that was a bad car crash. Not yet. Yeah, exactly. So not yet.

Yeah, well, one, one, yeah, 12 more hours. I mean, yeah, you guys, you guys, you guys can go rent the fucking van and drive two hours back and forth. You would not let that happen. Well, go ahead and do it. Oh, you don't have your fucking car insurance. That's true. You were like, I want to drive the van this week.

It's like, bro, I had to put my car insurance up for this vintage piece of shit sucked. Sup, Charles, object objectively, how tall is PFT? That's a great question. It's not that great of a question. Five eight, yes. Did I nail it? Nailed it.

No, five nine. Nailed it. That's so perfect. I'm five nine. Great fucking answer. Five nine. Everyone knows I'm five nine. Yes.

Charles is going to get us in a fight. Yeah, this went really well until we brought Charles. He's the problem. All right, this is the last child's question. Sup, Charles, could you give a general description of the grit van's odor? Oh, totally in and out. I mean, a hundred percent. Yeah, it's full of the way burgers.

And get under the cushions. I don't know if you're going to get your deposit back to every time I said to Hank, I was like, hey, can we clean it? I would look back and I just see like an extra burger just kind of float around the day strapped. So I guess Charles helped us all get get roasted there. Hank, do you have any others? No, I mean, there was like it's just like when you how did the idea of doing

great week first start? I think Mark Titus might be new, newer people that might not know. So what happened was back in 2016 when the show was but a babe, we interviewed Mark Titus, like our second or third guest. He was pretty early on, very early on. And he told us at the end, he was like, you guys need to go to the Indy 500. And I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it. And everybody else was like, yes, like a road trip is in order.

And so we drove through the Rust Belt, decided to call it grit week because we're traveling through the grittiest part of the country. And it just kind of became an annual tradition. Yeah. So we did two years in the Midwest, one year in the South. Now we went to LA and probably what do you think? South of France next year. Yeah, make it really Monte Carlo, Monte Carlo, really gritty place.

So why do something like that? Yeah, I mean, it's a good time to get out on the road. We're going to do we're going to do last year we added the training camp tour. We're going to do another training camp tour this year in the Midwest. Let's just get out there with the people, see them at a Ralph's. Didn't even know Ralph's was the thing. Now you're Vons or Johns. What is that?

They're supermarkets. Vons and Johns. Those are two separate, not Vons and Johns. Two separate, two separate. So you can go to Vons and then you go to Johns. I think Vons close and then Johns gets a deal on the Jays and they just throw the J up there. What is your what do you go to Vons for?

Am I higher? Are you high? Vons? They're two different grocery stores. OK, and Johns. What do you go to Vons for? And then we're going to Johns. But what's better at like public says awesome sandwich?

How many? Who's got more? Von or John? Vons. OK, Ralph's got the most. Same as. Well, same as John or Von. I think they're all the same company. OK, I'm team Johns, though.

I think I'm a Ralph guy, even though he can't us out. No, no, this is a funny name for their marks. They should call it. They should call it. Marks are us. Ralph's sweet. So I'm still think Vons and Johns to say because that's a good name. Like go to Vons and Johns and get everything.

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