Pardon My Take - NBA Insider Shams Charania, Actor Danny Trejo And Big Cat Bought A Lottery Machine

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

The sports world stopped on Wednesday in protest and we discuss what that means going forward (2:48 - 16:56). Fyre Fest of the week Big Cat bought a lottery machine and he's now addicted to picking wi...nning numbers plus Hank wont stop yawning (16:56 - 35:05). NBA Insider Shams Charania joins the show to talk about the NBA protests, what the players meeting looked like and when play will most likely resume (35:05 - 52:18). Actor Danny Trejo joins the show to talk about his career of being the bad guy, being in a million movies, prison and more (52:18 - 81:27). Segments include billy's list and a review of Bigger Than Ben, Ben Roethlisberger's new documentary.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we got a lot to talk about. Sports obviously stopped on Wednesday. We will discuss the boycotts in the protests in the NBA, MLB, MLS, didn't forget about UMLS, WMBA, eSports, eSports. All across the sports world. Do not forget about eSports. We have Shams Tarania from the athletic friend of the program. He's been on the show before, NBA reporter. He's in the bubble. He tells us exactly what's going on, what's going to happen going forward with the NBA playoffs. We have actor Danny Trejo. You probably recognize him as the badass guy in every single movie ever.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We have a firefest of the week. We have documentary review of Big Ben's Bigger Than Ben episode one. And also I bought a lottery machine. So we've got a lot to get to before we do all of that part of my take is brought to you by the Cash App. Not only is it the easiest place to send money to your friends, it's the safest. It is the number one social distancing app in the world. The Cash App is the best app, period. Download it right now. You can link it straight to your bank account. You can send money to your friends, family, whoever you want to send money to. You can do it with the Cash App and it is super, super easy. And they're all over social media. They're on Twitch. They're on Instagram. They're on Twitter. They're everywhere.
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Starting point is 00:02:44 Welcome to part of my takedown by the Cash App. Go download it right now. Use code bar so you get $10 for free. $10 to the ASPCA. Today is Friday, August 28th. I have a quote for you guys. You ready? Yeah. Guess what guys? Everything is going to shit. The world is fucking crumbling but we have sports back so just say fuck it and listen to part of my take. That was me last Friday. Good quote. Jinx cat. Sports are back. Sports are no longer back. It is sports week. Sports are coming back maybe Friday. Maybe Saturday. Maybe Saturday. But yeah, yesterday was a big day in terms of no sports. It caught us all by surprise. Everybody was expecting the Bucks and the Magic to play. The Magic had their buses lined up to leave. They were going
Starting point is 00:03:39 to Turks and Caicos. They were excited to get the hell out of the bubble and go and get their asses kicked by the Bucks and then the Bucks didn't show up on the court and then everything kind of dominated from there. Yes. And the NBA went on strike. It was a crazy day. It felt like a historic day. I did say that on Twitter. Obviously there were the cynics that were like nothing's going to change and I get that. We can talk about that in a minute. But I don't remember a day when all the sports just stopped in protest. The last time this happened was a preseason game. The Celtics. Bill Russell decided to boycott a game back. I think it was like the 70s but it was a preseason game. Right. So like this is a yes it's a bubble game which feels a little bit different but it's
Starting point is 00:04:20 definitely the first time that this has ever happened. Also Andrew Luck last year. True. For the whole 2019 season. Yes. The magic we're very surprised when that happened. 1961. 1961. All right. So obviously this show everyone knows this show is lighthearted in nature. We don't usually get into serious topics but this is a topic that is very very heavy in the sports world. I guess simply put I always support the right to protest in this country like being able to use your leverage and power to protest to try to enact change is kind of the most American thing you can do in my mind personally. It's why this country is so great is that you have the ability to say I don't agree with something. I want to change something and you can wake up tomorrow morning
Starting point is 00:05:07 and it's not you know Putin's put you in jail. Right. Well that's what happens every single day when the games are being played is the result of like a collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the players and the owners are like we want to make money through the rules that are set up right now. Here's where your collective bargaining stakes going to be and the players agree to that. But then if the players want to protest is they're right. And they people are saying like they don't have anything at stake. They're millionaires. They actually do have a lot of stake which we get into a little bit with shams. Like yes they have a great job. I think they all probably love their jobs but they are putting it on the line not only in terms of their
Starting point is 00:05:40 reputation but also future earnings if the salary cap does go down because of the actions that they take. So like yeah they have some skin in the game too. And I said this online yesterday maybe I can clarify it a little bit but there are a lot of people who just want to watch sports and I totally understand that sports is an outlet. It's an escape for a lot of people. I get that it's an escape for me all the time. Yes. I fucking love sports. OK. We have that approach for the most part on this show. Yeah. We treat sports as an escape. Yes. It's an escape and it's a wonderful escape and it kicks ass and it's awesome. But there are a lot of people that say you know they're the kind of shut up and dribble crowd like I want to be entertained. Don't I don't mix politics or sports. That sort
Starting point is 00:06:17 of thing. That's that's fine. You can think that way. But I also think that what we've seen over the last you know a couple of months and especially the last few years I don't think it's ever going to go back to players not using their leverage in terms of getting into political arguments or political discussions or activism or that sort of thing. So at this point it's like you can either stop watching sports entirely or you can just kind of accept that this is going to be the new normal. You're not always going to agree with what the players are protesting for or all their views on everything. But I think that it's you're putting your head in the sand if you think that it's ever going to go back to more of the way it was when these two things didn't interact as much. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I agree with that. I really comes down to this for me. I'm not going to tell a black person how to feel about this. Right. And I don't think anyone sitting in my shoes should or like you know like that's that's kind of where it comes down like it boils down to I know there are a lot of people who are hurting in this country for various different reasons from all walks of life. We're not doing well like everything's kind of feels like the world's falling apart. 2020 has not been a banner year to put it lightly. And I know that you know people have lost their jobs and people are saying well athletes are getting to play a kids game and all that. I get that people have grievances and they feel hurt in different ways. But at the end of the day I'm
Starting point is 00:07:47 not going to tell black people how to feel about this. And I don't think you should either. Yeah. But I also am not going to tell other people how to feel about it too because that's that's kind of thing like if you disagree with me that's fine. You know I'm not going to change my opinion on this matter. But if you think differently and you want to tell me that that's fine. I also said yesterday that I'm not going to waste my energy on Twitter Twitter is a broken platform for any type of real discussion or discourse. No one goes to Twitter to hear anyone else's frame of mind anyone else. They don't go to Twitter and say I'm going to read a tweet and now change my opinion. They go to Twitter to see that the tweet that either makes them mad and makes them want to
Starting point is 00:08:25 reply in anger or they go and see in their own echo chamber and bubble and retweet it and then they pat each other on the back and it's all kind of bullshit and everyone's kind of full of shit. So I'm not going to do it on Twitter. I'll say what I think here on radio whatever videos we do and that's kind of it. Yeah I know I agree with you. I think that it's very tough to have these conversations because there is a lot of nuance and having these types of conversations online is impossible because no matter what you say somebody can extrapolate your point and then be like well this fact in this case goes against what you're saying right now but I think the bigger picture is the NBA players and even the ownership and players in other sports too want to see some
Starting point is 00:09:06 progress made. They want to see some tangible progress made whether that's reforming how like district attorneys interact with police in terms of like officer involved shootings that sort of thing. I think that's a noble cause and I applaud them for standing out for what they believe. But again like this is you're right the best place to have this discourse is probably not on twitter.com. There one last thing in a semi serious way but I get the cynic view of this thing. I totally do because I find myself being more cynical every single passing day. So I get the response of oh they sat out a game what the fuck's gonna change. I get like people would have that cynical view because it's hard to change things like it's very very hard. All I'm gonna say is
Starting point is 00:09:54 give it a chance and let's see it's better than saying nothing can ever change ever. I'm never gonna be that person because that person what's the point. If nothing in your life can ever change for the better you should just stop living. Oh shit. So it's like this is the whole the whole thing is like try to to use whatever you can to make change. Maybe change doesn't happen today. Maybe it doesn't happen tomorrow. Maybe it doesn't have a 10 years. Maybe they don't have 100 years but at least trying is better than saying nothing will ever change just like give up. Yeah I think that what the players want to accomplish is a noble goal right. They want they want fewer black people to be killed by police officers right. I think everybody can agree that if that
Starting point is 00:10:38 were to happen that would be a good thing not a bad thing. Now it's just a matter of trying to figure out how that can happen logistically. How what steps can be taken to address it in the right way. I think good for the players for you for using the power that they have again don't know how it's going to pan out. I do know that Stephen A Smith right now is wearing his transition glasses on TV and that is a very very serious look. Oh yeah look at that. The rose cut the blue shade. That is a man that looks like he's wearing a blue. That looks good. All right so so we've kind of talked about the more serious side. Can we talk about the funner side with the positive side. Yes. For about 12 hours Blazers in five became a possibility. True true when LeBron
Starting point is 00:11:22 James said that the Lakers weren't going to play anymore. Then at that point it was like this is this is actually literally Blazers in five. Yes. I am right and I felt good about being right but then it looks like they're going to play. Which listen if it takes me admitting I was wrong about Blazers in five to bring the NBA back and have them play a full postseason that'll be my cross to bear. Yes. So happy. Yes. OK. That's that's huge for you. So LeBron was definitely pissed that he that the box did it went rogue. Right. Yes. Very pissed. Yes. LeBron he knew that he had to make a stand during the meeting because he was like how am I not the face of what's right. And I get that. Like he's the biggest player. He is the league but it's all the inner workings are very
Starting point is 00:12:04 it's it's listen it's obviously a bigger than sports cause but then it's also funny to be like like this league aspect of it. They're like they're still they're still human beings. They're still a pecking order in the NBA. Yeah. So it's funny to think about like oh my god. Like yeah I guess LeBron probably was mad. LeBron got a text saying like George Hill is starting this movie. He's like who the fuck is George. Right. Right. Even though he was a teammate of it. Yeah. But especially because he's like I thought I sent that guy to Canada. What happened. I also I did appreciate the referee walk. I was just waiting for Joe West to pop out of a bush with his with his white armband and be like hey guys I've been trying to get respect for refs and then they'd
Starting point is 00:12:46 be like wait Joe this isn't about respect for refs. He's like oh shit never mind. See you guys matter shirt. He's like finally someone standing up for the referees of the world. They're like Joe that's not what we're talking about. Referees have been leading the charge on all this. They went from having the the segregated black and white stripes on their shirts to incorporate to blending them into a nice shade of gray. Yes. They've really been taking the start on it. I love these Stephen A. Smith glasses. I hope he keeps his on. These are fantastic. He looks he's on mute. So I don't know what he's saying but I'll tell you I agree with every fucking word that he's making great points. Stephen A. Smith for president. He said that he would run and that he would dominate any
Starting point is 00:13:20 debate against anyone but he just doesn't feel like interjecting himself into politics like that. He's making great fucking points. Jake's trying to get it. I don't think get close captioning. That's all right. It's okay. It's actually better that we don't know what he's saying right now. That way we can imagine the best points. Any other thoughts. I actually think that a lot of it has to do like it's all coming to a head yesterday. It's like training camp right. These guys have been locked in a bubble for forever. They're just all pissed off all the time by now. They have to be. They have to be sick and tired. They have to be bored. They've been kept. I think the family shows soon. I also right now it's just like at the end of training camp you just want to fight
Starting point is 00:13:55 everyone. It was it was cool to see some sports teams fall suit. There's a baseball protest obviously WNBA and shout out the MLS MLS hopped in. I didn't even know they were back but now I do. That was a good yawn. Hank's yawning. Hank's yawning. All it took was tired. It's nine o'clock. All it took was Big Cat just mentioning MLS and Hank instinctively boom. You you you slept in the car for an hour on the way back from where we were interviewing. We have Kevin Love coming on Monday. It's a fucking awesome interview. It was like a three hour drive and I'm like a child when I'm in a moving vehicle for more than an hour. I fall asleep and as you guys know once I get woken up I'm just pissed off and I want to go back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:14:33 So are you tired right now? I just need like a rainbow. I just need like a red bull or something. You know what? Whenever Hank gets grumpy let's just put him in the back of your car Big Cat and just drive him around the block until he falls asleep. Was were you gonna. No no it's okay. You don't have to. Oh good job. He almost got up. He did. He did like when someone's doing the dishes like oh can I help right as they were finished. Also shout out to the Cubs yesterday. Jason Hayward was like I'm not going to play but you guys go ahead and play. Yes. And his teammates are like okay cool. Yeah well Dexter Fowler too with the Cardinals. Dexter Fowler with the Cardinals. I said earlier it's like if your girlfriend or wife is like uh no I'm you know I'm just
Starting point is 00:15:07 feeling tired. You go out though have fun with the boys and you're like hell yeah. All right see you later. Let's see at 4 a.m. babe. Yeah I'm coming back drunk as fuck. Yeah so um crazy day uh I do think it's gonna be a day that we'll remember because it's never it's never happened like we said not for very long. Hank you asked me to fucking talk about social justice and you're just yawning in my back swear. You guys asked me to forget it. You asked me to forget it. Hank thinks that the NBA should kick the Bucks the Raptors the Heat. Who else out. That's fine. Kick the Sixers out too anyways right just for the hell of it. Next year. So yeah and kick the Lakers outright and the Clippers and that way. I would imagine
Starting point is 00:15:49 with the Cubs the Lakers don't want to be there anyway so. I would imagine Playoff P was like yo I just got good in the playoffs. Yeah. Like we can't stop this now please. Right. Oh Hank. Hank's about to he's fighting. He fought that off with his eyes. Hank just closed his eyes and wished the honor. All right so we're going to talk to Shams a little bit more about it in a minute but let's do some firefest. We still have the Big Ben documentary review coming up. That's going to be great but let's do a firefest before we do that. P.F.D. this whole thing is coming off the rails. P.F.D. you have an ad. I do. I want to talk to you about 3G. We love 3G here at Barmitek. We love them. It's the leader and hemp derived cannabinoid products. They sell a wide
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Starting point is 00:18:14 all he has to do is like once a week pop up with this report. Just keep himself relevant. I'm ready to get hurt again. I'm ready to get hurt again. I want football. You know there's people that are listening to this that think like oh shit like they probably listen live and then they thought you're being serious. Well I'll explain it. You know it. Sir Yacht is a choose your own adventure source. He's wrong all the time 100% of the time. He pretty much makes it up but if you want to live in a fantasy land like I do listen to Sir Yacht and and you know ignorance is bliss in this respect. I do love the fact that like twice a week the Big 10 comes back from it. Yes. Yes. It's floating in your calendar conference. Report. Report. There are
Starting point is 00:18:53 some parents that are showing up outside Big 10. That was so funny. Maybe it's back. I just heard that two Nebraska players were suing the Big 10. Do it. And now the Big 10 is like shitting their pants because yes documents will be open for discovery which I would love to see how athletic directors reach a consensus about anything. Kevin Warren resign sir resign. I'm gonna start tweeting that every day. Resign. Not resign. Not resign. Resign. He's just spelled the same way. That's always very confusing. Resign. Resign. Resign. Resign with no dash. Resign with a Z. Resign sir. All right Hank. My firefests is you're fucking yawning. I can't stop yawning. That's one of my firefests. My second one is so we got all got hooked up with these PCs and ZXT PCs. They're
Starting point is 00:19:34 like state of the art nice really nice pieces of equipment but in my apartment like where I play video games or whatever you obviously need to run internet into the PC but where my Wi-Fi router is on the exact opposite side of where my desk is. This is nerd talk. So I would have to run. Well it's more like you know it's more like a like girlfriend talk. I need to figure out a way to run a hundred foot wire like across my apartment over some walls without it being like absolutely not easy. Here's what you do. Just wrap Christmas lights around the wire. Christmas lights will make the inside of any apartment look not the not the like green and red ones do the white ones. Yeah. The white ones are classic. Yeah. Those are real class. Yeah. You can like don't think she's
Starting point is 00:20:19 in 500 days of summer every single night. You can like hang a giant fish above your bed as long as you stuff it filled with Christmas lights and girls will be like that thing is so nice Billy. I would just run it between where the wall meets the floor boards. Yeah. You could also do that and just get extra. I think Chris is talking about that. That goes through that crosses doorways and shit. Will you just sneak it under. No you can buy a strip like the little bump thing that you put in the doorway. Billy. Great idea. I'm pretty good. D. Y. I. Yeah you are. D. Y. D. I. Do yours. Do yourself. Driving you insane. Do yourself it. Do you it. Do you it. You're good at doing yourself. Yeah. You do yourself. Hey just get like a bunch of carpets. Just run carpets
Starting point is 00:21:09 along the floor. You're so close Billy. I can't I can't like explain it enough. It's literally like the worst place possible. OK. Then do the Christmas lights idea. Yeah. You're going to get so late. She won't even know that there's internet in the house. Yeah. You got this dude. It's going to be sick. Is that it. Is that your only fire first this week and the awning and the awning. Yeah. Again I've reached the point where I've heard Hank you on so many times that's soothing to me. It's comforting. That's how I know he's OK. All right. What's your breakfast. My breakfast of the week is I bought a new pair of shoes and they're six shoes and they're awesome and I love them and they make me look like I'm five foot 10 and a half because
Starting point is 00:21:44 they have a big air bubble in the heel. Yeah. You might say to yourself PFT that's a sick thing. That's not a firefest because check these out. Look at the heels on these suckers. Yeah. You're wearing lifts. They're my new favorite pair of lips. The problem now is her moon shoes. You're way back in the day. The problem now is you're wearing Nike's Zoom 720s. Yes. All the kids are wearing them. But my problem is now I can't wear any other pair of shoes because I'm going to feel short as fuck in a normal pair of shoes. So I'm basically stuck in these until I die. Yes. That does happen when you start wearing lips. Yeah. It's going to be like you know how people act are funerals that have that have wigs. They like snatch their wig off and everyone's
Starting point is 00:22:19 like oh holy shit this guy was bald the whole time. Dude like people are going to try these shoes off my feet when I'm 85 years old or however in my in my casket and they'll be like damn this was a short king. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'll make sure that they stay on your feet in your casket. Thank you. I'll stand guard. You're in charge. Yes. Don't touch the feet. I want somebody. Nobody touched the feet. That means that means you Billy's only fan subscribers. Yes. I want somebody guard my grave like the unknown soldier. Yes. We shift spots. I like that. I mean by the way I people for some reason the Twitch chat has decided to tell me they have a receding hairline. I do not think I have a receding hairline. But if here's what the Twitch chat doesn't realize
Starting point is 00:23:01 I want to be bald because if I were bald you won't shave it. No I want to be naturally bald. If I were naturally bald I would go and get the worst toupee ever and just dare people to talk about it. Yeah. Just be like go ahead and fucking talk to me about my my skunk on the top of my head. You won't or just embrace the horseshoe pattern. There aren't that many guys outside of Todd Reardon the coach of the capitals who embraces the like wreath hairstyle. There's a niche out there for guys that have a toupee that admit they have a toupee and just tell people like go ahead you won't fucking make jokes about it. Yeah. You can show up like different days of the week with slightly different hair. Yes. Like oh I'm bleached today. Yes. It's I really do kind of want to go
Starting point is 00:23:42 bald but I naturally I have beautiful hair so there's nothing I can do about it. All right. My firefest I have two. The first is Bryner Lacker was trending all day. We were out in your bald guys. We were out in the Hamptons. I think his hair plugs actually went to his like went into his brain but we were out in the Hamptons interviewing Kevin Love so I saw it and I was like well got to do an interview going to just ignore this for a second came back still trending. I actually the firefest really is like I don't understand people who still at this this point in time like are shocked when their favorite athlete has a bad take. A bad opinion. Yeah. A bad opinion like oh wow you you you still think like your favorite athlete because he was good at
Starting point is 00:24:26 sports has good opinions. Well it's not just that. I think it's everyone who who likes a certain athlete thinks and wishes and hopes that all their opinions are exactly and they're never aren't never match up perfectly. Yes. And in this case I think Bryner Lacker's opinion matched up with like no one. No. No. Yeah. I mean I wonder what like Lance Briggs thinks when he sees that but yeah. Steel a car. Yeah. No. He did not steal a car. He crashed his Lambo and then reported and stole it. OK. Big fucking difference. But yeah that was quite a day for Bryner Lacker. My other firefest is I have finally got my lottery machine. So when the NHL had their ping pong snafu I said I need a lottery machine. Fifteen hundred dollars later Alibaba via China. I have
Starting point is 00:25:15 purchased my lottery machine. So we're going to we're going to plug it in and we're going to let it go. Just like a good I was going to say you should put one ping pong ball in there. That's like the nicks but have it waited and so it never gets sucked up. So here's so here's what we're going to do. So turn it on Billy. Here's what we're going to do. We're just going to do a number we'll probably do at the end of the show going forward but we're just going to pick a random number and AWS could start betting with their friends what number is going to be picked. What. What. One one one one ball. So we got it. It's on. Oh boy. Listen to this thing. Listen to this thing. There might be too many balls in there. It's what it's so exciting. It's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Oh no. It almost. Number 40. No no. Let it go. Let it go all the way down. Let it go all the way down. Look at that. Number 40. Number 40. My call stop. Number 40. So if you had number 40 which on a game that we didn't announce until right now you win. There you go. But yeah we'll do it. We'll do maybe while Billy does his speech at the end would take on me. I'll pick a random number. So start betting with your friends. I don't know how you would bet it. If you're listening to the show together then start betting now for the first time. Also yes. Do one more. Do one more. Do one more. Do three bill. Keynote numbers. Yeah. Do one more. Yeah. Do three. Do three. It's fucking exhilarating. Dude. This is like the greatest day of my life. Go ahead. Yeah. Hit
Starting point is 00:26:31 three. Hit three. Smash it. Hit three. Here we go. Welcome to the part of my take lottery number lottery number. Check your tickets. Check your tickets folks. We have three drawings tonight. Number 90s. I can't read the bottom. Is that 96 96. If you have number 96 checkers your card number 96. We have the second number about to be picked. The second number lucky lotto 83 96 83. What will we have last. Will we have the power ball number. Power ball numbers are single digit. That means your double winner double winner with the power ball number. Will we have a power ball here on part of my takes lottery. The last number 84 84. So 96 83 and 84. Wow. That's kind of crazy. That's nice. Yeah. So if your birthday is I guess there's no birthday that matches that. So you'll
Starting point is 00:27:29 have to keep listening to see if your birthday is drawn a part of my take. If we draw your birthday and part of my take let us know we'll send you something. Do one more. Do one more. Do one more. This is fucking awesome. You ask a question. Pft. Odds and evens. Odds yes. Evens no. Pick a number between one and a hundred. Let's see. Let's see what this lot of machine can do. I did it. It did it. No. It said no. No. It's it. No. The answer is no. It will not. No. No that was the last one. 84. No. What was that. No it said no. You said pick a number between one and a hundred and the lottery machine was even. So it said no. But it also picked a number. No that was the number to say no. It was saying no. It was saying I will not. And it hasn't picked another
Starting point is 00:28:12 number since. I wonder if it'll ever pick a number. Try to pick another number. Pick a number another number between one and a hundred. It's off. It's off. We gotta we gotta come up with a name. You literally broke it. We gotta come up with a name for it. You literally broke it. Wait actually. I unplugged it Billy. Billy go ahead. Your fire fest. My fire fest of the week is that my I'm out of the feet game. I'm out. What you just. No because no it got ruined. Is this in. No it got too real for me. Other. Is this in solidarity with the NBA. Yes. Okay. Yes I am going on strike on a foot strike. My feet are staying in the shoes. Wait what happened did you guys say they jerk off to it. No it got too weird. Other feet influencers started
Starting point is 00:28:57 reaching out to me wanting to do collab. Dude that's big collab. Hell yeah. Okay time out time out time out. With little fairy feet princess reaches out to you. Time out. Time out. That's why you made it. I don't want to be. Time out. For that time to reach out to them. Unfortunately you have now become at the whims of the lottery machine. So we're going to decide if Billy has to do this or not. Okay. This is why we bought the machine. So Billy this is final. Okay. This is final. You like no I'm not joking like if you if you disobey the lottery machine you're fired. Okay. All right. Pick a number and if that number doesn't come out you have to keep doing it. No it's odds and evens. So odds will be that you have to keep doing your feet. Billy
Starting point is 00:29:42 feet ball evens as you can end it forever. Okay. All right. Here we go. I like how Billy's thought process was like I didn't mind doing the feet thing when they're only like 30 guys jacked. Yeah. Yeah. But now the little now the chicks showed up. Now that little misfeet princess wants to collab. All right. So odds. What did we say? Odds that you have to do it. Yeah. Odds you have to do it evens you can stop. Okay. All right. Hit it. One. Here we go. Odds you have to do it. And you cannot disobey this. This is the lottery machine's decision. Odds you have to do it. Odds you have to do it. Odds you have to do it. 56. God damn it. Double or nothing. No. That's 95. Big cat. That's 95.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That's 95. Look at it. 95. Billy's 95. Billy has to keep his own. All right. No. You know what? I'm going to respect the lottery machine. This is why we got it. You're done. You're done with Billy's football. Good job. Billy's football is retired. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. I will respect the lottery machine. You're going to miss it. Yeah. You're going to miss the attention. You are just like make 20 bucks right before bed. Yep. Dude actually there are other ways. Yeah. I give you permission if there's anyone who's got like a fucking ping pong ball fetish. You can use this. Perfect. Yeah. So start doing that on. Oh, I guarantee you there's definitely like some ASMR ping pong. Well,
Starting point is 00:31:07 and also the ping pong shooting the ping pong out of the vagina. Those videos. Not that I've seen them, but I have. All right. Let's get Jake. Do you have a firefest? Yeah, I actually have two. Whoa. Whoa. What was going to happen if I didn't ask? I just. You just eat it? Yeah. I thought if you just go home and go to bed. I always have them prepared just in case I'm cold on. It's better to be over prepared than under prepared. That's the most Jake Marsh thing ever. Big time journalist answer right there. So, okay, go ahead. Wait, Jake, how many firefests have you just swallowed? Yeah. You have a list of them? Yeah. Are you like going to bed with just firefests in your brain? No. Well, here's the
Starting point is 00:31:45 thing. The last time you guys asked me, I talked about the dry cleaning thing. Yeah. That was a few weeks old. So it was my back pocket. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So first we were in here until like 1.30 in the morning doing sporkles the other day and I couldn't. Yeah. I couldn't figure out the Kansas City Royals were an MLB team. So that's just my fault for not the pressure got to me. Yeah. That was bad, Jake. To be fair, they are somewhat forgettable. Yeah. But I gave you the hint that they did. They had one. It was pressure. You had one empty spot on Ale Central. I said they've won a World Series in the last 10 years and you still couldn't get it. No. It's my fault. Second, I had a dream the other day that the college basketball season continued and Vermont beat
Starting point is 00:32:23 Hartford 1.19 to 82. We clinched our ticket to the dance. Then I woke up and I got sad because that's not a dream. That's a premonition. There's a big difference between the two. So when they play against each other, bet your entire mortgage on Vermont. Right. But I won't be there. So are they going to play against each other? Do they schedule each other? I mean, there's the conference. Oh, conference. So the first time they play against each other. Next year. Yeah. odds are going to be Vermont. Evens are going to be Hartford. Go ahead, Billy. Odds are Vermont. Evens are Hartford. Hartford hasn't beat them in three years. Just shut up and trust a lot of the machine, will you? Odds are, what did I say? Odds are Vermont.
Starting point is 00:33:07 All right. We'll take Vermont. We'll take Vermont. 35. There you go. All right. Nice. Got you, bro. I can do a million more. All right. Even LeBron, odd MJ. Okay. Oh, yeah. I don't think we can do that. Yeah. I think we have. Oh, Billy, you're going to lose them. All right. Hit it, Billy. Hit it. No, no. If the number 23 comes up, it's MJ. Yes. Odds are MJ. Yeah. Yeah. No, just number 23. And then whatever LeBron's number is. Was it six now? Yeah. LeBron more 23. Oh, that's a coincidence. Weird. Odds are MJ. Odds are MJ. Evens are LeBron. I don't like this. No, I don't like this. No, yeah. No, it broke. No, it broke. It broke again. It broke again. All right. Let's get to our symbol. No, it broke. Yeah. It broke again.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's no, no, no, no, because it broke. It's a stop. No, yeah. Totally broke. All right. Before we get to shams, football is coming back and that means Sundays are back. Why only watch one Sunday at a market game when you walk and watch all of them. Catch it all with NFL Sunday Ticket.TV and Good News NFL fans. Direct TV has expanded the service. If you live in an apartment or big city where Direct TV service is not available, you can now get NFL Sunday Ticket without a satellite to see if you're eligible. Go online to NFL Sunday Ticket.TV and stream every NFL Sunday Ticket game this season to follow your favorite team no matter where you live. You can also stream from all your favorite devices. Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Apple TV,
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Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah. So throughout the day yesterday on Wednesday, the sense wasn't that any players are really going to seriously boycott. I think there was obviously talk about it. There was definitely players that were considering it, but the actualization of going through it that was something that no one saw coming. Other players across the league, executives across the league, the owners, no one saw this coming. And so as I reported, it really sparked pre-game in the Milwaukee Bucks locker room. George Hale was the first player to say, guys, I'm not comfortable. I don't think we should be out there playing. We need to sit and Sterling Brown, his teammate, agreed with him. Giannis at the Ducumpo was the third player from what I'm told
Starting point is 00:36:45 that stepped in and said, we're not playing. If you're not playing, we're all going to sit. And once that happened, the Orlando Magic players were warming up. And so it was a shock to them. They intended to play. They wanted to play. But once they saw that Milwaukee sat, they ended up going back to the locker room. And that was your first boycott. And it became a domino effect throughout the league. Once you saw one team do it, even though it blindsided everyone. And that was something that was later raised. And there was frustration toward the Bucks for blindsiding different players around the league. But these actions don't happen if you involve everyone, because there's so many different opinions that go on. And the Bucks,
Starting point is 00:37:30 I mean, obviously, they took a stand. Yeah. So when George Hale decided that he wasn't going to play, was his thought that we're done? I don't, because I know he had felt uncomfortable being in the bubble to begin with. Was his thought like, I don't feel comfortable finishing this out, let's go? Or was his thought just like, we need to not play for today? From what I'm told, the Bucks only intended to sit that one game, forfeit the game. They offered the Orlando magical forfeit, sit the game, get three, two in the series and move on the next day. But once the Orlando magic also went back into the locker room, did not accept the forfeit. And it became a boycott. It became both teams or a strike. However you want to phrase it,
Starting point is 00:38:15 both teams decided to sit. And it became a unifying point for everyone around the league. You had Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, they entered their arena, fully prepared to play. Russell Westbrook was going to give his quad a chance to play. I was told there was strong optimism. He was going to return for that game five, but then him and Chris Paul huddled up and the decision was made. If one set of teams decided they're going to sit, we have to sit as well. We have to stay unified. So after that, so we have all three games get canceled yesterday in protest. And then last night, it seemed like basically all the players in Orlando got together. Was that, maybe he can walk us through what happened there.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Some of the players, all the players, whatever you got from your reporting got, got together and had a heated discussion on what they were going to do going forward. Is that right? Yeah. So Chris Paul, I'm told is the one that, that's, that called this eight PM meeting last night in Orlando, got most all players. I mean, I haven't heard of a single player that, you know, marquee players, especially, but you had rank and file players, ended the bench players, everyone showed out to this meeting. And, you know, the environment was, you know, basically it was open forum for discussion. One of the first things that came up was, you know, Milwaukee, what, why did you guys, you know, in a way go rogue and blindside the rest
Starting point is 00:39:41 of us, like you should have given us a heads up, we could have planned, we could have prepared, we could have done a joint thing. And from what I'm told, Kyle Korber was one of the guys that had the answer first. And he said, listen guys, I apologize, we should have been more communicative. And we should have told you guys. And from, from there, it sparked a lot of tense moments. And you had players calling out the books, you had different guys, you know, coming out and giving their thoughts and their feelings, you know, players, you know, LeBron James and a couple other guys challenging ownership and feeling that the owners across the league aren't doing enough, are not being proactive enough and are just being reactive. They want owners to take a stand and
Starting point is 00:40:22 take steps and really create change, not just, you know, talk verbally or, or throw financial commitments around. So when LeBron James, I guess the reporting I've read that he was one of the ones that was not in favor of continuing this postseason as it's going right now, when him and I guess the Clippers were the others, when it became apparent that there might be an issue going forward for those two teams, did all the other teams say, well, I guess we might just not play? Or was there talk amongst the other teams of like, maybe we will move forward without the LA teams? It was like this weird reversal situation where I think the Clippers and Lakers expected that everyone around the league was, was, sorry, I think everyone around the Lakers and the Clippers
Starting point is 00:41:06 expected that all the other teams would also sit and would vote to sit and they would all be unified. But once the votes came in, the Lakers and Clippers were the only two teams that had voted to boycott the rest of the season. And so then the argument came to, what are we doing here? If we're not unified, we have two powerhouse teams that are electing not to play or are making their poll or their vote not to play. And Udonna's Haslam of the Heat was one of the key figures I'm told that, that led a moment and a segment of that meeting after the vote. And basically it was like, like we need to come together. What are we doing here? You know, what are we really going to do to create change? And if the Lakers and Clippers aren't playing, why are we all here? How will the
Starting point is 00:41:50 season go on? And at that point, or shortly thereafter, LeBron James exited the meeting. And the Lakers and Clippers weren't far behind. The rest of the players stayed in the room for a little bit before departing into the night. I'm told meetings went from four to five in the morning before the 11 a.m. meeting on Thursday. Okay. So I, this might be a question you don't even know the answer to, but I think a lot of people are wondering the protests, like from my perspective, I support the protest. Obviously, I think that's the most American thing you can do is protest peacefully in any manner and try to get, use your leverage to enact change. What exactly are the changes they are looking for? Like, what's the actual action and has that been formulated?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Because obviously it was a crazy day, a day that probably will end up being historical, because we've never seen anything like this in sports. But what will be the follow up? I think that's a lot of people are saying, what's the follow up? If they're going to start playing again in a couple of days, what is going to change? That's a great question. I think in a perfect world, what the players would want is what they feel would be justice for Breonna Taylor's and Jacob Blake's of the world. That's in a perfect world, but that doesn't happen overnight. That's what they were told by the attorney general of Wisconsin, what Josh called when they got a hold of them on Wednesday night that there's a process that needs to play out. That's what
Starting point is 00:43:19 they were told. I think these players would love to enact just quick changes, but as you guys know, it doesn't necessarily happen like that, based on city and state governments and the federal government. It just doesn't happen like that. If you can't do it overnight, then if the players can't fully control the uncontrollables, how else are they going to enact change? I think this is their way of sparking the dialogue, trying to spark them and the owners. In a lot of ways, this call should have happened the first week of the bubble guys. They should have gotten on a call with all the owners right as they entered the bubble and hashed things out and gotten everything on the table, but it took all these different events occurring, the Jacob Blake shooting and just the
Starting point is 00:44:06 emotions running high. That's what led to this owner's meeting that took place today as well. Yeah, I think when you see the video of a man getting shot seven times in the back and then the following night, three people getting shot, and you can't look away from it. The video is right there for everybody to see. That's what makes people really feel like they need to take action. I agree. I think that peaceful protest is the best thing, the best way that you can go about doing these. I get the sense that from the owner's side, they in theory agree with their players. They want to support their players, at least a lot of them do, but it also is going to take a deep gulp from all those guys that are in ownership positions to be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:44:49 I'm going to have to sacrifice some of my money and some of my equity in the teams that I own in order to support my players. Have you gotten the sense that the owners are on board with this 100% or behind the scenes? Are they frustrated? Even if a couple are frustrated at the end of the day, I think Adam Silver and the majority of owners do want to work hand in hand with the players, and that's what the players challenged the owners about from my understanding on Thursday, which was we need you guys to be proactive. You guys can't just take a backseat at every single stop. The owners at different points have wanted the players to take lead on this, but it should be a joint initiative according to the players, and that's what they expressed
Starting point is 00:45:35 to the owners, the league office today, that the owners created a $300 million fund to help empower black communities, and that is something that the league has never done. I can't remember any pro sports league that has created a fund of that amount of money from the owners of that organization, but I think the players want change, they want to see action, and you have all these different owners. Michael Jordan, I'm told, has been very instrumental behind seeing Steve Ballmer. I'm told of the Clippers. He was a guy that was very vocal on this owner's call, just trying to find ways to help. And I think at the end of the day, the owners understand where the players are coming from for the most part and want to help.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Where's Adam Silver and all this? He obviously was blindsided, but is he just like, we got to figure out how to get your grievances heard, or is it we got to figure out a way to get everyone playing again? I mean, listen, from a business standpoint, I think both sides, players and the league office, everyone understands how important it is to play games, and that's for sure. But I think Adam Silver has always been pretty informative, pretty vocal with the players, pretty accessible to the players. He had an hour plus phone call with the players early in May, and he really was very, very inclusive to the players on the process. And you don't hear a commissioner get on a call for over an hour and really break everything down the way Adam Silver
Starting point is 00:47:10 did. So I think overall, he's trying to be as inclusive to the players as possible. But again, these are players who day to day, their feelings, their different moods, it's changing every day. Are the players under advisement from anybody that's kind of looking forward in the future? Because right now, as emotions are high, and there are certain goals that they want to accomplish, goals that I think are important and necessary for them to take a look at. But there are things, there are impacts that could happen, unforeseen consequences that kind of domino from a decision like stopping these playoffs entirely, whether that be the salary cap in the future or something like that, that could economically affect, you know, maybe not the biggest superstars in the league
Starting point is 00:47:54 as much. But some of the other guys who might not be paid as much money moving forward, do they have somebody that is communicating with them, kind of advising them on what those consequences might be and how they're going to play out? Should they choose to do things like go on strike? Yeah, no question. I mean, you've had guys like CJ McCullum, he's been very vocal for the last really couple months, trying to explain to players the financial losses that they could occur if they sit the entire season. You're looking at 10% plus pay cut losses. And Michelle Roberts was also on the call on Wednesday night, also on Thursday. And what she's explained to the players is all of you guys are going to incur a loss for this season. But these are losses we
Starting point is 00:48:35 anticipate. If you guys don't play, the losses are going to be far greater. And the negotiations for the collective bargaining agreement, which are solely but surely, you know, trying to progress here. Those are going to be a lot more difficult. And either way, you know, no one is really fully, you know, how do I say this? I think, I think for the first time, Michelle Roberts vocalized the possibility of a lockout to the players and, and, and really expressing to them that I can't rule that out. If you guys play or don't play, but here are the ramifications for if you don't play, it just becomes, it's just a practical matter. It becomes harder to negotiate CBA. Right. Right. All right. So Shams, I, you have been, I've seen you everywhere in the last,
Starting point is 00:49:28 like 24 hours, you've been crushing it. I know you're on very, very little sleep and we appreciate your time. My last question is when do you, like we're sitting here right now, we're taping this Thursday night, when do you think that games will resume? If they will resume, I should put it that way. And if they do resume, do you think that it's going, we're going to see the, the, you know, finality of the playoffs? Is it going to play out? Where's kind of everyone's head at right now with that? Yeah. My sense is, you know, the games will either begin Friday or Saturday. It's seeming more and more like Saturday because, you know, you want to give maybe these guys one more day of self-care and really practice for some of these teams. Some of these teams haven't even gone back
Starting point is 00:50:10 into practice, like, you know, Orlando Milwaukee, they haven't practiced. They didn't practice today. They had this meeting. And so I think that could become important as well for, for these guys, for these teams. I think now that they've gotten past this major hurdle, that the playoffs finish up, but guys, you guys know how fluid this is. So I don't know if I'm betting anything. One last thing for me, was there any sense from some of the magic players that, you know, they were ready bags packed, ready to go. They were anticipating losing in five against the Bucks. And then they got blindsided by this and they were like, Jesus, we just wanted to leave the bubble. PFT man. I think that's, I don't know. I don't know how obvious that is or isn't.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I don't know. I mean, listen, let's just put it like this. I think that they fully wanted to play that game and get that game out of the way. And, you know, not only just them, but there was talk last like emotions were so high guys that there was talk throughout the bubble that, you know, what if I leave? What if I leave? What if I, you know, you know, what can I do to get out of here? Like so many emotions, so much being said in the spur of the moment that I think, you know, having a night to sleep on it probably did everyone a bit of good. Cool. All right. Thank you so much for your time. We did also see, there was maybe a Twitter, I think it was a screen grab of LeBron playing Madden last night. Can you say that that was not true? I do not have knowledge of that
Starting point is 00:51:37 situation, but I can check and get on. No, it's okay. That's okay. That's Twitter. Twitter gets crazy in these moments. So, and the new Madden came out. So people were trying to claim he was on Madden. I don't think he was. I think, I think I've reported that he had exited the meeting, walked out, and then not like 15, 20 minutes later, someone sent me a text of that tweet saying, LeBron left the meeting to go play Madden. To each their own. I mean, in the bubble, that's probably a very fun activity. Yes, that's true. That's true. Just like us. We'll say it's not confirmed. We don't think he did, but when you have Madden going on, the new Madden coming out, and then everyone being like, you know, trapped at home right now,
Starting point is 00:52:16 you'll probably get those rumors. Shoms, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it. And good luck the rest of the way in the bubble. Guys, appreciate you as always. Thank you. Take care, man. That interview with Shoms was brought to you by Simply Safe. Here's the thing about home security companies. Most will trap you with high prices, tricky contracts, and lousy customer support. So while there are a ton of options out there, there's only one no-brainer, and that is Simply Safe. What sucks about ordering home security systems? Well, there can be a long contract that you can get yourself involved in that you don't necessarily want to adhere to for the duration of it. And sometimes you have to let some pretty shady
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Starting point is 00:54:25 Rams hat on, so let's start there. What, you know, we are a sports podcast. What do you think about the Rams this year? Move over. They got it. They're going to do it. They got that new stadium. My cousin that did 38 years in prison, and while he was there, he learned electrician, electrical, and right now Scott Button got him out of prison and he's working on that. So I got to see the inside of that. And it is, you know, it's going to be like the 10th wonder of the world. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. So I mean, it's unbelievable. A little birdie told me that back in the day, used to sneak into the Coliseum and to Dodger games. So how are you going to, how are you going to sneak into this stadium? I don't have to. I don't have to anymore. But you know what's so funny?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Because they didn't have the kind of security, you know, that they got now. It was, you could just stand by a bathroom and wait till a, till a family walk by and just walk in with that family. And they would kind of like, oh, good. They adopted a little Mexican kid. And you just go and walk in with them. Now it's like kind of like, you know, you get cavity searched and stuff. Yeah. Unless you have that one security guard from that meme that just like taps everybody on the side and lets them in. Yes. But yeah, you're right. Now it's like they've got, they brought electronics into the whole situation. You have to scan your ticket, all that stuff. So you're excited for the Rams season, obviously. You think that Sean McVeigh
Starting point is 00:56:00 is going to get back on the right track. You think that last year was just a little hiccup for him. Hey, we got the only coach that looks like he just got out of high school. Okay. I mean, and if you watch him on the sidelines, he's almost, it looks like he's playing sandlot football because they go, go, go, go. So I, I love it. I met him. I met most of the team. They're all just just unbelievable. Yeah. It's good. I think it's going to be an interesting year in LA. So it never even occurred to you to root for the Chargers. Well, you know what? It's like I, I'm an LA fan. So I like the Lakers and I like the Clippers. I like the Rams. I like the Chargers. I'm an, I'm an LA fan and I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. So if wherever my teams go, that's where
Starting point is 00:56:49 I go. It's going to be fun. If the, if the Chargers and the, and the Rams play in the Superbowl, I'm going to watch one and a half, one half, and then I am going to streak naked across the field to the other side. I like it. Everybody will see all the tattoos I got. There you go. What's your favorite tattoo that you have? You know what? The one on my chest was done by a guy named Harry Super Jew Ross and uh, and he did it. We did it in prison, right? He's that big Mexican lady, you know, and uh, and you know, it was funny because you get prison tattoos, but you think you're getting out. Well, I didn't think I was getting out. So I put this monster on my chest. If I would have thought I was getting out of it, put a little, you know, like Tweety Bird or something. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Right. So it made me famous, made, made a, made Harry famous too. Love it. So you, um, when, when, when I introduced you here, I said you've been into million movies and I wasn't really uh, joking. There's a stretch there in your career where you were in like 10 movies a year. How, how do you keep that straight? How do you keep it straight? What you're promoting, what you're in, lines, all that stuff. I mean, that is, that's very, very impressive. How many movies you've been in most of my lines, my, the first five years of my career, I played inmate number one literally, right? You know, I never had a name inmate number one. And, and, and the directors all knew that I had this big tattoo. So every time I walked on set, I'll tell you, take, take your shirt off and
Starting point is 00:58:28 say something prison-y. You're okay. So I, and I get paid. So it was like, I was, you know, inmate number one or bad guy or, uh, or cholo dude. And, uh, but, but I was, you know, I was making a living. In fact, the first time I ever got interviewed because I was getting a little, little famous, I, I, I, uh, this girl fresh out of interview school, you know, she said, uh, Jenny, don't you feel you're being typecast? And I didn't, I didn't know what she, I said, what do you mean? She, well, you're being, she's a little, little Mexican. She was, you're being stereotyped. And I said, that's what? And she says, well, you're always playing the, the mean Chicano dude with tattoos. And I thought about it a minute. I lifted up my shirt. I said,
Starting point is 00:59:14 hey, lady, I am the mean Chicano dude with tattoos. You know, they got it right. They don't got a Markey Wahlberg playing, playing a Mexican. That's right. I'm looking through your career here and especially from like 1995 until 2001, you went on a run of action movies that I don't think will ever be replicated. I don't think that anybody will be able to put together this resume. You were in Desperado heat from dusk till dawn, anaconda, con air, uh, and then inferno, then reindeer games, and then hard right turn spy kids. So spy kids was a little change of pace for you. I would imagine, was that like a challenge? Spy kids, let me be in any airport in the world and hear mommy, look, the man from spy kids in 45 different languages. Yeah. They watched that all over the world.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yes. From, it's from the time I did from dusk to dawn. I've been, I've been sleeping with Selma Hayek. Oh, there you go. Nice pillow there. I like it. So when you, when you were in prison and, and like we said, there's a new documentary out about Danny Trejo's life. When you were in prison, you were in San Quentin and you were a champion boxer in prison. Was there a moment where you're like, I am the baddest dude in the world? Because like, I would imagine winning a boxing championship in prison just makes you the baddest guy in the world. Let me tell you something. It was funny cause I was walking around with this friend of mine. We're walking the yard, right? And we're talking about our goals in life. And my goal was to be, well, just lightweight champion, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:58 and I said, you know, my goal, yeah, to be lightweight champion at San Quentin. And, and this guy, stupid little shit, I like to stab him. He said, oh, you got a very high goal. What are you talking about? You know what I mean? That was, that was as high as my mind could think. You know, you get, you get to a place where that's your world. I couldn't think of boxing on the streets. I just thought about my whole life ambition was to be lightweight champion of San Quentin. And I ended up lightweight and walk away champion. There you go. So you surpass that. Hold on. Shout out JJ and Jocelyn just got married in Deadwood, South Dakota, the Adams house, and they were all wearing masks. Wait, what was that? Where'd you get that shout out from? What did you just read that from?
Starting point is 01:01:47 JJ, they just sent it to me from, from on the phone. They just sent it to me from South Dakota. JJ, that's chubby. That's my, my mechanics son. I thought you just, I thought you just like randomly do shout outs all day. You just get it and you just shout it out. Hey, let me tell you something. I, I, I watch this kid raise up from like a year old. And right now he's an unbelievable mechanic. If you are ever in Silmar, Los Angeles, California. Hey, that's your mechanic. Okay. Yeah. We've been through a couple of times driving an old van. I actually wish that we had that name a couple of years ago. Like last year in grit week would have been nice. Let me tell you something. I have a 65 Buick Riviera. I have a 56 Chevy Bel Air. They keep them things running
Starting point is 01:02:44 beautifully. Yeah. All right. So let's back up to, you know, your prison life, you end up becoming a champion boxer. You get out, you become a boxing instructor to somebody on a movie. And then was it, was it the director that noticed you and was like, Hey, I want to put you in the background. What happened? What happened? I, you know, like I was a drug counselor and I'm making $180 a week before taxes. And, and, and I'm trying to do this, this extra stuff, you know, and they give you extra 50 bucks cash. All right. And any cash in the, in the, in the 80s was good. You know, so I got 80 bucks, 50 bucks cash. We go, I get a call from one of the guys I was working with, working as a drug counselor, you know, one of my kids and he says, Danny, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:42 check out the agency, the agency that we were working with, send us to this movie called runaway train. And I go on this movie and I run into a friend of mine named Eddie Bunker. But, but I didn't really recognize him. He looked when the, the, the, the producer said, take off your shirt, not the producer, the first AD, take off your shirt and he sees the, the tattoo. And so I'm standing there without a shirt. And I'm now I'm going to be like the cholo guy again with no shirt. And this guy comes up and says, Hey, you're Danny Travo. And I go, yeah. And I hear Eddie Bunker. And he says, Danny, I saw you in the lightweight and the walkaway title up in San Quinn. I go, yeah, Bunker. And this guy was, was, was unbelievably famous in prison because he
Starting point is 01:04:31 knew how to write rits, you know, a, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, get a lot of jail. And, and he knew that's got to, has to be grammatically correct. And, and, and in the language of the court. And so he would make money. The guy come out of millionaire of the joint from writing rits. And he said, what are you doing here? And I said, making 50 bucks. What do you think? And he goes, are you still boxing? I said, no, no, I don't get a face no more. And he said, we need somebody to train one of the actors how to box. He adapted the screenplay. You know, he's a writer. And I said, what's it pay? And he said, three 20 a day. And I said, how bad you want this guy beat up homes? No, I thought, no, no, I thought, come on,
Starting point is 01:05:16 I wasn't making three 20 a week, right? 20 a day. I said, I couldn't understand how, how bad you want him beat up. And how many days you want me to beat him up? And he goes, no, no, you got to be careful. This act is really high strong. Danny, he might sock you. I said, hey, for 320 bucks, give him a stick. Are you crazy? I've been beat up for free. I beat me up for 320. And the, they already had somebody cast to, to box Eric in this movie. And I started training him. And then when, when the two guys Eric and the, like Eric's is pretty as his sister, okay. And, and, and the other guy, I called him the Antonio bandera Spanish, you know, he was real good looking kid slender and kind of guy you would want for your cell
Starting point is 01:06:09 partner if you were doing a lot of time in prison. And so's Eric, you know, and so, so it didn't look good. And, and, and, and Andre didn't like it. So they picked me to, to fight Eric because it was a contrast. Right. Right. So, and then, and then that was your first acting gig. Now, all the acting gigs and, and you talked about it, you know, being somewhat typecast, is there ever a time where someone's like, Oh, there's Danny Trejo, like do something badass, like be a badass. Like, you know how comedians like, Hey, go say something funny. Is there, do people expect you to like be this mean badass guy when they meet you in real life? No, people are pretty respectful in real life. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't run up to a guy
Starting point is 01:06:57 with that on his chest and ask him to say, do something silly. Yeah, that's true. That's very good point. It's a natural deterrent. Yes. But, but people go, I'll, I'll, I'll mug for a camera. And he's like, I love, I love taking pictures and signing autographs because it's such a beautiful way to make somebody's day. Just for people have said, God, you made our vacation. And so, you know, not just like mug for the camera or let them look act like they're choking me or something. Yeah. Okay. So you can like flip that switch because you're, you're a really nice guy and you look really happy, like a really positive person. Do you have a switch that you can flip to just immediately get back to that role? A director said that a director said that I
Starting point is 01:07:40 drew the movie with Mickey Rourke and I killed about nine people in the first 20 minutes of this movie. I'm running up the steps and they told me this girl was a was a was a stunt girl. So, you know, slapper or something. So I'm running up the step. I got a rifle. Bam. It looked like I hit her with a rifle and she fell down. And, uh, and so, uh, but then the director said cut. And I went over and I started playing with my kids immediately, you know. And so yeah, I can go back to being that guy in prison that, that has a look that says, look, I'll kill you. And then I'm going to go kill the guy that dry cleans your clothes. So, so I can, I can do that. You know, but I got to get out of there really quick because it's a sickening feeling.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a number of people that you've killed in movies? Is there like a tally? I know, but I've died more than anybody in the film industry. I got the record. Okay. So everybody says, Hey, how come you always die? I just because I love going to the bank. That's why. Yeah. Do you know, do you know how many times you've died? Uh, no, but I think that's, wait a minute. I think they said 63 deaths. That's a lot. God. That's crazy. Who's the best actor you've worked with? Oh, God. I love Robert De Niro. I, you know what? I started God, man. He is unbelievable to watch because when we first did heat, come on. I did, did heat actually push me into another
Starting point is 01:09:13 category of actors, you know, because you got Robert De Niro, Val Cabir, Huckleberry, you know, Val Kilmer, uh, uh, uh, Al Pacino, John Boyd, that's not top of the list, you know, and, and, uh, and, uh, I'm working with them and it was like that pushed my stock up a little, you know what I mean? And, and to watch, to watch De Niro, to watch De Niro, hey, you, you, that's the God. Yeah. He is one of America's greatest actors. Yeah. Yeah. What about, what about Con Air? What about Nick Cage? How was he on set? Nick is cool. Nick is cool. I mean, Con Air was a weird movie. They got all the wannabe tough guys in Hollywood and put them on the same plane. Yeah. So it was funny because somebody was spit, then somebody was spit further. It would turn into a beat. Everything
Starting point is 01:10:13 turned into a competition. Yeah. Alpha energy. Yeah. And, uh, and, uh, there was, uh, people don't know it, but, uh, God, I always forget his name. Cusack. People don't realize it. Cusack is a bad mother. People don't realize it. His sensei is, is Benny the Jet. Benny the Jet with five-time world kickboxing champion, right? Him and Chuck Norris are like the real, if you ever want to shut up, if you ever want to shut up John Claude Van Damme, uh, uh, uh, who's the other tall guy? Uh, uh, uh, Steven Seagal. Steven, if you ever want to shut them up, just mention Chuck Norris. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. So do you think that John Cusack could beat up Steven Seagal? No. Oh, God, you don't realize it. Chuck, Benny the Jet is, is, uh, is, uh, uh, uh, John Cusack's, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:11 sensei. And I watched John Cusack bend the heavy bag. You know the heavy bags that are, the bags that are all the way down. Yeah. You know the tall ones. I watched him kick one and bend it. I go, wow. So that means broken ribs, broken legs, broken arms. He will break anything he kicks and, and, cause he's being taught by Benny. And, uh, and it was funny cause every time, every lunch break, Benny would come get me and take me away. You know what I mean? And I go, what's up? What's up with you, Benny? Look, I grew up with Benny's older brother, Mondo. That's who taught Benny. And, uh, and it's, come on. I was, what's, what is it? Man, we got, we got to sit by ourselves. We'd always sit in his dojo on the set of, of, because Danny,
Starting point is 01:12:02 you grew up with my brother. I know you don't play well with others and you're not a good sport. And these guys all want to find out who got the biggest bit, you know. And it was funny because we were all sitting around one day and they were all, you know, talking about this and mine just big in my, and, and Nicholas Cage out of the clear blue sky said, you know what, only one of you suckers, I'd be scared to meet in the dark alleys, Treyhole. And I'm all by myself. I look at you like, why me? Nicholas Cage definitely has alpha energy. I just looked it up. You, you do have the record. You've, uh, died 65 times. That says of February, 2020. I'm sure you've probably done like, well, I guess with the pandemic, you probably haven't done that many movies, but I'm sure you
Starting point is 01:12:49 got like 10 new movies coming out. I died a couple of times in February. Yeah, right. You keep dying. Yeah. 65 times. That is the record. What is the secret to dying? Let me tell you something. My death scene in heat was one of the best scenes of that. That was unbelievable. They marked it as one of the best scenes. And I remember asking me and Robert De Niro were sitting there and he goes, Danny, how are you going to play this? And I said, I don't know, Bob, what do you think? And he says, I think you're almost dead. I think you're, I think you're dead, but you just have enough to ask me to beg you to kill me. You kill you for a split second when he said, what do you think? I want to say, no, Bob, I didn't, I don't see it that way. But Bob didn't, you know what? But
Starting point is 01:13:40 that's what I was thinking. I did it that way. And I followed his advice and man, I sort of got it. We had, we had Michael Mann crying on that death scene. Yeah, it's a great scene. It's a great movie. Do you have dogs? Lots of them. Well, I got eight dogs. Yeah. Do you ever do the thing where you pretend to die in front of your dogs and see if they'll come over and like try to wake you up? You know what? Let me tell you something. I got one dog that if you have an empty leg, he's going to try to hump you. I got three other dogs that licked the hell out of here. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, I love dogs. So last year you saved a baby from an overturned car and you made some headlines and I loved the quote you had. You said, everything good that
Starting point is 01:14:26 has happened to me has happened as a result of helping someone else. And that's kind of a cool way to look at, you know, life because what you're basically, I mean, you could, you could speak to it, but like every circumstance you've been into and we talked about your start as an actor is helping someone else out and that then leads to something bigger. So are you just walking around being like, how can I help? How can I get my karma points? Absolutely. Every one of my friends has, has a thermal underwear and socks. Anybody that I call a friend has thermal underwear and socks in the trunk of their car because they pass them out to the homeless. Here, here. We buy, we buy 25 hamburgers every other day and just give it to people. You know what I mean? And
Starting point is 01:15:11 because you know what, it's like, and I don't, I don't, I don't, we've been passing out food to the hospitals and stuff from my restaurants, you know, every other week, every week on this pandemic stuff. And it's funny because every, every time we pass out Pampers, the ladies, they'll say, do you, do you, do you have Pampers? Do you have Pampers? You know, and so I bought 150 boxes of Pampers. I didn't know Pampers were that expensive. Shit. Broke us. But, but we would pass out Pampers and Mario, my assistant, he said, Danny, you know what's going to, you know what happens right now if we go to the joint, we'd get a nickname like, hey, huggies, come here. Love. Brother loves, come here. I mean, literally, they'd give you a nickname. It would be like,
Starting point is 01:16:02 you know, Pampers or loves. Yeah, I mean, that's a great philosophy to have. It's just, it's saying what you put out in this world is going to come right back at you. And I think I've heard about that a lot in Hollywood, that if you are a nice person, you're a hard worker, and you're willing to do, you know, what you're asked at the beginning, that snowballs and looking at the, at the list of movies you've been in, and shit, how, how many films overall have you acted in? Do you know? I think, I think I mean, 300. Jesus. Nothing. I don't like that. Starting from absolutely nothing, like starting from no acting career whatsoever, and building a way off. You have to be the first time at like 33 or whatever it was, you know. 38, I think. 38, Jesus. Let me take a look.
Starting point is 01:16:45 On my resume, it says, San Quentin Drama Arts, and me and Eddie Buggler, me and Eddie Buggler made that up, because, because standing on the yard, like, especially if you know there's going to be a riot, you know, it's coming, everybody knows, and you're standing there, you got four inches of steel in your, in your belt, and you're trying to act like you're not scared. You're trying to act like, if you, those of me, I'll kill you. And, and when you hear all inmates return to your cell, recall, you know, mandatory recall, you feel, thank God, you, you know how to, you know how to act, we need, you know. So, Danny, this has been awesome. I have, I have one last question. It's to me,
Starting point is 01:17:28 Undy's soft question of the day. Go to meundys.com slash PMT to get 15% off your first purchase. So you have Trejo's tacos, and you have Trejo's donuts and coffee. And Trejo's cantina. And Trejo's cantina. Now, give me your favorite taco. Oh, and a book, Trejo's tacos. That's awesome. Good book of all our recipes. Favorite taco and favorite donut. By the way, that's like the best combo. If you had to own a type of restaurant and be like, I'm gonna own a taco shop and a donut shop. That's pretty damn good. You know what? I told you, everything good that's happened to me has happened as a direct result of helping someone else. Yeah. I literally, I got Trejo beer too. Oh, wow. Yeah. You're like, you're like Mike Ditka. Just put your face on anything.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Did I read that you did? I don't drink, but everybody tells me that beer is really good. But let me tell you something. My agent, listen to your agents. Do what your agents say. My agent wanted me to do this movie. It was called Badass. No money. They didn't have no money, right? It's a no budget movie. That means they give you a lunch. I got a chance to do a movie over here for about 60 grand. And I said, let's do this. No, Danny, you know what? Listen, this is a good, this is good. This is being really, really good. I said, no damn money. I hate smart women. Anyway, so she says, so we do this movie Badass. Damn thing turns into a trilogy, right? Three times up on money. And then, but I met on this movie, I met a producer named Ash Shaw. And he saw that
Starting point is 01:19:13 I eat good food. I don't eat bad food. I won't eat processed food. I eat your good food. And he asked me, Danny, why don't you start a restaurant? Jokingly, I said, trail's tacos. We did Badass, Badass, Badass is Badass too. And then Badass on the Bayou, Danny Glover. And and when we did Badass on the Bayou, he brought me a business plan, but he was thick. And I don't read anything that doesn't have four killings in the first page. And so action or nothing. So I gave it to that smart lady, you know, agent. And I gave it to my secretary and they both said women, smart women, they both said, Hey, this isn't a bad idea, Danny. They're not asking for 100 grand up front. They're not asking for any kind of jest. Okay, so let's do, so I wouldn't be in the,
Starting point is 01:20:14 I wouldn't be in the restaurant business if it wasn't smart ladies. And anyway, so I got like, seven restaurants right now in a donor shop. We even got a, we got a restaurant at the airport, a restaurant at the airport, like the puck guy, you know, oh hell yeah. That's what you know, you made it. Hell yeah. And your tacos are like $25 in a restaurant or in an airport. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you for making me pay so much money for your tacos in the airport. But yeah, that's when you, that's when you've made it. So it's like, that's when you made it. And it's like, I go there because I check on them all the time right now. I just go there, just like, Hey, Poco, we got one too. Are you doing an ice cream place too?
Starting point is 01:20:59 We have ice cream in our, in our, in our, in our restaurants. Okay, nice. In the dough. Nice. In the donut shop, we have, we have donut ice cream and it's delicious. Oh hell yeah. Everything, that sounds so good. But let me tell you, if you go to the donut shop and you order the pineapple fritter, just eat one. If you eat two, you'll need rehab. Okay. Got it. All right. Good, good heads up. Good heads up. Well, Danny, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it. You're welcome back anytime. You want to talk about the Rams this fall. We'll have you on anytime. You got it anytime, man. Yeah. God bless you guys. All right. Thanks so much, man. Thank you, Holmes. Day Trejo was brought to you by our friends at Zip Recruiter. If you're an employer,
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Starting point is 01:22:58 So go to ZipRecruiter.com slash PMT. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash PMT. Zip Recruiter, you can try it for free, the smartest way to hire. By the way, in my Firefress when I was talking about how I disagreed with Urlacker and I don't know how people can still think that their favorite players think like them, Matt Forte just released a statement like basically calling him out. And now I'm like, oh, Matt Forte, I knew I always loved him. And then I'm just doing it again. And then he's going to be like, yeah, he'll just treat something like the Cubs fucking suck. I'm like, this fucking guy. Yeah, exactly. Five years from now, he's going to be like going on a rant like in favor of Wayfair. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, uh, well, how'd they on Twitter? Look everywhere.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Look how tall I am. Yeah, you are pretty tall. That's actually, I'm really tall. That's very weight. That's like, you're not, everyone knows you're not your normal height. Billy, come stand next to me. Everyone knows you're not your normal height. Look at this. I'm almost as tall as Billy now. What's up, short stack? Yeah, though, those are lifts you're wearing. No, they're not lifts. These are Nike zoom 720s. They're less. Let me see them. Look at this. See that. Those are not lifts. Let me see that. Let me see one of my friend. These are that. Do we have the box cutter? These are standard. These are standard air right now. Listen, every basketball player in the world wears these. Um, all right, let's do we got Billy's list. Bill, you got a list? Yeah, I got this.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Where's your list? It's right in front of me. We're down to one sheet. It's double front and back. Okay. Billy's number one topic of the day is Barbie with Hulk muscles. There's a there's an attractive Russian woman woman who can lift more than 200 kilograms. That is the biggest story in the news according to Billy. Yeah, I love it. That's good. Then the bills cut Stephen Houshka. Roy Jones might drop out. That sucks. So I like really excited for that fight. I like this as Billy's number three here. He said that Roy Jones is thinking about withdrawing from his highly anticipated bout. But then he said that he never Billy never said why he was thinking about dropping What does it say? They change the date of the fight. He doesn't like to change the date. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Oh, he's just like, is this like an, uh, what is it? Astrology? Yeah. Astrological thing. I don't see that astronomy. That would have been wrong. I think he has plans for November. Talking to Mike. All right, let's finish up the show. Let's finish up the show. I actually like this topic on the back here. NYC to London air bridge reportedly being discussed by US and UK. I like that. Like you can drive from the United States to England over a bridge, like a giant air, a giant bridge. Are you talking about an airplane? That's also an air bridge. I'm not exactly sure, but just sounded cool. So it is definitely an airplane. I mean, I mean, that's like the conc the concord. Why do they stop doing the concord? It just blew up once or twice. Yeah. That's,
Starting point is 01:25:46 I mean, you got there so much faster. Yeah, air bridge. If there was an air, you know what could happen. John Madden could drive over there to announce all the London Jaguars games because he doesn't fly. But it's an air bridge. Just you know what, scientists, just me remake the Titanic, just build another Titanic, put God himself could not seek the ship on the bottom of it, run the exact same route and be like, fuck you, God. All right, I got it. All right, here we go. No, I'm just saying, like build another Titanic. Yes. Yeah, they did. They are. Are they? Yes. Good. I think they're building a Titanic to build a Jurassic Park. And we're just waiting for it to fall. So an air bridge between London and New York to enable travelers to sidestep quarantine
Starting point is 01:26:28 is being discussed in top level UK US government talks that Telegraph understands. And then I have to pay for the article. Wait, so they're going to build a bridge to help us get past COVID? I would imagine that this bridge would probably take longer than a month. I'm going to find a free article. I had no idea what it was. An air bridge. Air bridge. Well, big cats looking up. Oh, it's just okay, dad. Come on, Billy. It's official starting a plan for regional air bridges that would allow visitors from low risk areas such as New York City across the pond to Britain. It's essentially just people want to go get their fucking meat pies in in England. Check out the last story. That one's good. R Kelly and solitary confinement following jailhouse beat down.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm fine with that. That shit rocked. He did sweet. Cool. Yeah, that is actually cool. I am cost or rated got my face less or rated. There we go. Yeah, pretty fly. He should get beat up. Um, all right. It took a beating like it got masturbated. Let's finish. Let's finish the show with bigger than Ben bigger than Ben. Yes. Episode one big Ben's documentary. Now before we get to it, Jake, I had tasked you. I thought it would have been hilarious because we pulled this up and it turns out it is true. He is making a documentary. I just love the fact that like someone in big Big Ben's camp was like, Hey man, like last dance like Brady's making documentaries. I think LeBron's got something out like the hot thing to do right now is to make
Starting point is 01:27:56 documentaries and then Big Ben was like, I'm in and he made a fucking 14 minute YouTube video. And it was basically just a love letter to his wife. Right. I can summarize it for you. He was basically saying like, you know, last year was really tough for me. I missed being around my teammates, but fortunately I gained the best teammate of all my wife. Yeah. It was all, it was all coach, uh, speech at the beginning. All right. But I thought it would have been funnier if when we had pulled it up, it was just like a children's, uh, cartoon that just showed things that were literally bigger than Ben Ralph's burger. Yes. So, uh, I had Jake, I tasked Jake with finding things that are bigger than Ben Ralph's burger and telling us how much bigger. So what do you have?
Starting point is 01:28:38 We've got three. I want someone to cartoonize this. I think there's people who still do that. Give us the bigger than Ben cartoon. Taiwanese animators, right? Three height comparisons and three weight comparisons. We'll start with the height. He's six to five listed. That's equivalent to 46.75 football fields. Okay. Bigger than Ben. 46.5 times bigger than Ben. 1.16 Jose Altuvez. Okay. Go into Ben. Let go inside of Ben. And then, uh, 226.6 Ben's would reach the peak of the Empire State Building. That's it? 226? I think I did the math correctly. That's crazy. That would be them standing on each other's heads, not shoulders, right? Correct. Yeah. Right. But that's just crazy. That's, that's very interesting. Empire State Building was around 1,400 feet.
Starting point is 01:29:23 226 times bigger than Ben. 226 times six? That's awesome. Yeah. 226 times is bigger than Ben. The Empire State Building. You know what? I've always struggled to figure out a way to describe Big Ben's posture, but I think I haven't. The way that he walks around with his head, like, perfectly upright, he looks like he's balancing another Ben Rothesberger on the top of his head. Yes. He's like, uh, Katie Ledecky. Yeah. Doing the fucking swimmer with the milkshake. All right. And then what about weight? Um, so obviously they play at Heinz Field, uh, 240 pounds, his listed height, the same as 92 bottles of 20 ounce bottles of Heinz ketchup. So he's 92 times bigger than Heinz ketchup. He's the equivalent to 92. Yeah. But that's not bigger than Ben.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Right. So I screwed up the whole. That's okay. That's okay. The same size as Ben. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These are all same size as Ben. Got it. To be as big as Ben, you would need that. Yes. Correct. Um, 70.59 aircast FP walking boots. Okay. Same weight. And then a 480 dishes of Dynamite Trimp at PF Changs. So you, you screwed up the whole weight thing. I mean, I think I screwed up the entirety of the task. No, no, no, no. Empire state buildings, 260 times bigger than Ben. Yeah. Yeah. You got that. Oh, here comes Billy. It's okay to make mistakes, Jake. Sometimes everyone makes me. No, seriously, like, don't let these guys get too hard. That's okay. That's okay. Maybe I wasn't clear. I also think that Billy's so mad that we handle Jake mixing up so
Starting point is 01:30:50 differently than him. No, I'm like, Hey, Jake, that's on me, dude. And then Billy does one thing wrong. I'm like, Bill, you fucking idiot. I just, I just said, like, it's okay. Yeah. This is Billy's way of reminding Jake that he messed up. Yeah. Listen, hey, Jake, me and you, you're just like me. Both of the dog. Same thing. Same. All right. I apologize. No, that's okay. That's okay. Maybe maybe a tweet to make up for it tomorrow. Things that are bigger than Ben. Yeah. Yeah. I did think it was funny that like the way that they were describing his injury when he met with the trainer and the trainer was like, well, Ben, well, he told me that I have one of two options. You can either not have surgery and not play football again, or you can have surgery and play
Starting point is 01:31:32 football again. It's like, you just described literally every injury in the history. It got so somber. I thought they were going to diagnose Ben with a brain tumor and he had the trainer. It was great. The trainer and the doctor both giving a quote that was essentially like the, hey, we need to remind everyone that Ben's the toughest. And the quote was like, yeah, he told me I couldn't go back in. He never tells me I could, I can't go back in. And then it cuts the trainer. He's like, yeah, I never tell him he can't go back in. And then the doctor's like, he basically, he played in Cincinnati where he couldn't lift his arm over his, huh? It was the portion of the bigger than Ben where it's just like, here's how tough Ben is. And just listing
Starting point is 01:32:11 everything. But it was, it was a love story to his wife, to his own pain tolerance, I would say. And then also, I didn't understand the beginning when he was talking about all the haters. And it's like, who is really hating Ben? I mean, us, but out of love. No, we don't, but we don't think they say he's bad. We never say that Big Ben's bad. Who says he's bad? I don't, they were battling back from missing the playoffs by a game, not even by half a game. Right. They, they were a tie away from making the playoffs in Big Ben's last, excuse me, full season before he got hurt. And so yeah, it's, it was a season full of doubters and haters. Well, that was the, the summer of like AB and Levion, right? Right. When they both left. Yeah. So maybe those. Maybe we
Starting point is 01:32:56 did. Maybe this was a story with a target audience of four, me, you, Levion Bell and AB. Yes. And his wife. And his wife. His wife. So the ending, oh my God, ready to run through a brick wall. When his wife was like, I talked to Ben and I said, are you secure with your, like everything you've done? Are you happy with everything you've done in your career, which was like insert? Oh yeah. Ben won Super Bowls and Ben did this. And then he, Ben replied to me, thank you, which is how cold are you to your wife that you say that like, when she's like, Hey, are you happy with your career? And he says, thank you. I've processed what you've told me. I'm not done yet. And then imagine dragons kicks in next week on bigger than Ben. He works out
Starting point is 01:33:42 for the first time in 12 years. He doesn't shave and he gets surgery and we're going to find out this will probably second episode bigger, but then Ben will probably be the we've never seen an injury like this episode. Oh, for sure. It's like three out of five ligaments are gone. Holy shit. Most players would have asked me to just either cut it off or kill them on the spot. Yeah. Not been. I also think that there's a big part of this where Ben was like, I'm in the best shape that I've been in my entire adult life wearing an apple watch. I lost a lot of weight. Yep. So can we make a documentary of me in a t-shirt right now? Yeah. So I can like memorialize this period of my life before I put on 40 more pounds in October. Yes. Yes. And he will be like you said
Starting point is 01:34:21 earlier bigger than Ben now. Yes. Jake, yeah, we need to find out how much bigger than Ben Ben will be in eight weeks as soon as it gets a little chill in the air for the stillers. Yeah. All right. We should call this lard knocks. Oh, that would be too mean. Well, no, because you lost a lot of weight. I'm saying it's good. That's too mean. That's too mean. Lard knocks. That's too mean. Rockets burger. All right. That is our show. Awesome interview with Kevin Love coming on Monday. Awesome, awesome interview. We were just out there. We spent like an hour and a half with him, talked everything very open about everything. Also, we might be breaking up with Blake Griffin, but so you have to listen on Monday to find out why it made me miss doing interviews in person so
Starting point is 01:35:01 much. Should we do one more? Yeah, let's do one more. All right, hit it, Billy. Hank, do you have a question to ask the machine? Ask the machine real quick as we go. Oh, does PFT love the AWLs? Odd is no bullshit. Even is yes. Oh my God, this is even as I love you. Oh, what is it? Oh, there's two. 34. I love you guys. I love you guys. The machine doesn't lie. Confirmed. Billy, do you have any final thoughts making us into this weekend? Yes, I do. I actually have something planned this time. No, no, no, actually, no, no, actually, I'm going to start this new thing. I'm going to leave you the fun fact before every end of the episode. I'm going to leave you guys with the fun fact that you used to do this. The largest dromedary camel population is actually in Australia,
Starting point is 01:35:50 nowhere in the Middle East. Of course, the fun fact is about a stupid animal. No one gives a fuck about it. It's a fucking camel, bro. People don't think camels in Australia. Billy, no one cares about animals like you do. What does dromedary mean? It's one hump. Wait, what's a double hump? Bidory? No. Are we still recording? No. Well, yes. Are we? All right, let me do one more. One more, Hank, one more. Everyone pick a number. 17. Hit it, hit it, Billy. Everyone pick a number, quick. 52. 52. 45. I mean, 32. 73. 32. What? Would you say someone else? 32. 73. Why'd you change it, Billy? 98. Wow. 98. Brian Aracco. They love 45.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Sorry, Mr. Ignition. Hot and fresh out of the kitchen. I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. Now, I'm not trying to be a fool. But hey, for the girl I'm feeling, you do. The way you do, the things you do reminds me of my lexical school. That's why I'm all the things you do. I'm trying to get you to do a whole set of hoes. You must be a football coach. The way you got me playing the field. So, baby, give me that. Let me get it. Run in her hand through my throat. Now, I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm
Starting point is 01:37:38 like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. So, baby, give me that. Let me get it. Run in her hand through my throat. Now, I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. So, baby, give me that. Let me get it. Run in her hand through my throat. Now, I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking
Starting point is 01:38:31 weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. So, baby, give me that. Let me get it. Run in her hand through my throat. Now, I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun. I'm a boy. And this body gotta be net and new. Wish it had been a fucking boy. I'm like the water drop. It's freaking weekend, baby. I'm about to hop in for fun.

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