Pardon My Take - NFL Draft With Peter Schrager, NBA Playoffs With Alex Caruso, The Wolves Dismantle The Suns And Philly Is Dead

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

Philadelphia is dead after the Knicks and Knicks fans walked into the Sixers house and snatched their soul (00:00:00-00:13:56). We talk NBA and NHL Playoffs. The Lakers won a game, Celtics back in control and the Mavs/Clippers game was incredible basketball (00:13:56-00:35:28) . NFL Draft recap (00:35:28-00:51:52). Who's back of the week and MLB uniforms have been fixed (next year) (00:51:52-01:03:32). Peter Schrager joins the show recap the NFL Draft, winners and losers, the Falcons decision in retrospect and David Tepper lost his cool (01:03:32-01:47:19). Alex Caruso joins us in studio to break down the first week of the NFL playoffs, playoff adjustments, what makes Jalen Brunson so good, the Timberwolves defense and tons more (01:47:19-02:42:06). We finish with a recap of the Wolves dismantling the Suns and where the fuck do the Suns go from here? Plus lottery ball (02:42:06-02:56:18).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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It's time to have the conversation. These are the questions. I know that Max was hoping we didn't do this to start, but I would say it's the biggest story. We're going to talk about the draft. We're going to recap the draft. We're going to talk about every NBA and NHL playoff series. But the big story was on Sunday afternoon, the New York Knicks took a commanding 3-1 lead behind a brilliant performance from Jalen Brunson. the city of Philadelphia was completely cucked by New York Knicks fans who were so loud, very loud, very loud. They were cheering for Sixers missed free throws. They were cheering every time the Knicks made a shot. I guess

we can talk about it a lot, but I feel like we should go to our Philly sports guy to get his perspective on it. Hank, what did you think about the Knicks showing up in the building more than the Sixers fans did? Yeah, I mean, the Knicks are a passionate sports town, fashion, passionate group of people. They showed up and they made their their voices known. See, they put the jersey on Will's statue. Yeah, covered the whole thing up. Couldn't see it anymore. Yeah, I mean, that's usually something that, you know, and if it's a good sports, that was good sports sound that comes to blows or people fight back or you know, the Knicks fans aren't even able to get in because it's a home game for Philly but defend the

statue. Yeah. Yeah. And Brunson was awesome. He was awesome. They were diving all over the place. Josh Hart had a hilarious stat line. He had 45 minutes. He had four points, I believe on four free throws. Yep. And 17 rebounds. 17 rebounds. All hustle from like the Knicks supporting cast. They just out rebounded the hell out of the Sixers. That fourth quarter, like this series is awesome because it does feel old school basketball vibes. Yeah. Where it's, it's kind of a fist fight on a basketball court. But yeah, the Knicks had 15 offensive rebounds to sixers nine. They wanted it more.

There are a few possessions where they were getting third, fourth looks and it felt like there was nothing that you could do. Hank, I have a follow up question for you as a big Philly sports fan. Wynn Embiid had that wide open look at the end of the game and he decided not to take the shot and then dribbled towards the basket. Did that give you flashbacks? Did that give you flashbacks? Excuse me, you said he didn't take the shot. Did he endled towards the basket. Did that give you flashbacks? Did that give you flashbacks? Excuse me, you said he didn't take the shot.

Did he end up taking the shot in that possession or no? He drove clumsily through the hole and did not dunk it and tried a clumsily reverse. He did not take the shot, the wide open shot that he had. Who took the shot in that possession? He did not take the wide open shot that he had. Hank. But as a Philly sportsman, did that give you flashbacks of Ben Simmons and rim protector Trey Young? Yeah, I mean this team needs a major shakeup

There's there's a lot of big changes happening to the Philadelphia 76ers this offseason What about the fact that Embiid who has played great in this series even though he continues stepping on people? You know throwing shoulders into people's face not great at boxing out either not great at boss bells palsy guys He scored one point in the fourth quarter kind of ran out of gas Yeah, and it's tough when you every year run out of gas and are made of glass and are made of glass So what about at the end of the very end of the game Kyle Lowry taking those foul shots? Misses a shot intentionally, but didn't communicate to his teammates that he was going to try to miss intentionally to get a rebound. Yeah, I mean, I feel like that might be coaching.

At the end of game one, they decided not to foul when it was still reasonable that they could have made a comeback. Again, these end of game situations, you think that there are things that you go over in practice and it's just, you don't even have to communicate because you know you've run end of game situations. If we're down by this many, this is the time on the clock, you missed the free throw, this is what we're doing. That's not something a player should have to communicate because you know you've run end of game situations if we're down by this many this yeah I'm on the clock you're right you missed the free throw this is what we're doing that's not something a player should have to say that's something that the coaches should have communicated you

know throughout the whole year the playoffs you coach for these exact situations true fair point so for your team to not be on the same page how does that happen are they dead are they done yeah oh yeah they could fire the coach because he's been there for a long time Has he oh wait? No, no Nick nurse just got there shit Tobias Harris is gonna be gone That's that's the big fix that's a good spin zone Tobias Harris go on uh, Max did you watch the game at all? Yeah, I happen to turn it on. Yeah, and what were your thoughts?

Your Nova guys, I mean Jalen Brunson was incredible. Yeah, Brunson was really good. He had 47 points on 34 shots. He's been great all series. Wait, wait, why did you include the 34 shots in there? Because if Joe Allenby did that, that's the only thing that people would be talking about. But wait, but he shot the ball 34 times. Did he shoot above or below 50% from the field?

I think it was barely above. Barely above. It was above 50%. Joel Embiid is scoring 35 points a game, 45% from the field and a plus 34 when he's on the court. Jalen Brunson is scoring 33 points a game, 40% from the field and is a minus three when he's on the court. And the difference that the people are talking about Jalen Brunson and Joel Embiid is absolutely

insane. Okay, but saying 34 shots felt like an insult. It was. It wasn't an insult. He went 18 for 34. He also had 10 assists, so it's not like he was just ball hogging and being like, I'm going to shoot the whole time. And two turnovers, which is pretty incredible considering the fact.

Yeah, no, he had a really good game. But everyone acting like that, Jalen Brunson is the next big thing. And Joel Embiid is shit. Joel Embiid is having a better series than Jalen Brunson. I would say with the exception of the fourth quarter. He has the fourth quarter today, correct. The fourth quarter today, correct. Jalen Brunson was very good

Joel Embiid ran out of gas it I do not think it was a good decision by nurse To leave him out on the court for the entire second half He's not ready for that right now and you could just obviously tell he ran out of gas But like I hate that that that it's now Oh and be fucking choking again in the playoffs when he's averaging 35 points a game. Yeah, I have 50 points last game Okay, the way I've been very impressed with him bead throughout this playoffs with the exception of the fourth quarter where he he was completely Yes, I'm the comp. I am very very I'm very down to say that like by the way That was the first time a player has ever taken 34 shots and had a 40 and 10

Pretty impressive. Anytime anyone takes more than 34 shots usually doesn't have a 40 and 10. Yeah, Brunson had a very, very good game. That's why the 10 is... But he's also had bad runs in this stretch too. He picked them up. But everyone's thought... But his supporting guys picked him up.

No one picked up NB today when he had a bad stretch. Yeah. So is it over? Yeah, it's over. And what's the, what's the fix? Yeah. Well, I mean, you just don't have just delivered a soft. You got, what about the series of the year? Series of the year, rebounding 40 points. They have, they have 40 extra second chance points in this series. I've been very impressed with the Knicks. They just rebound just our dog. We can't like they're just They are dogs. They want it's just that they want it more the Sixers are a better our better basketball players

They are a better basketball team. It's the same goal for the fans. Yes fans were a joke today Yeah, I think that Joel Embiid said is a hundred percent correct. You can't let that happen It's very disappointing. It might be the crowd of the year at the the closeout game for the Knicks Yeah, this next game at the Garden that place is gonna be bought Yeah, honestly might be the crowd of the year at the closeout game if the Sixers when yeah true true that no that I've already worried about that. Would you like not to mark Walberg it? But if you were there would have gone down different Oh, yeah, I would have beat the shit out of those guys That's my guy there were things I was well I was watching videos today

I'm like, where is the Philly rep that you don't come into our our town without getting a punch? Yeah, dude was flipping people off after the game just in a crowd of Sixers fans They were just sitting there taking it Oh, why don't we the one time you guys did show up was when there was a loose ball and I think was maxi hit The ground good hustle play and you had everybody on the sideline calling timeout Yeah, every fan stood up and they're like timeout timeout got the time and the refs gave it to the fans Yeah, impact play but it is this is a bad. This is a bad day for Philly Yeah, for sure very bad bad sports down today. Oh today. All right. Good job putting in today because yeah

I just and maybe it's just Knicks fans are so crazy, which they are like it's been so long That's the other thing good That's the other thing like this is like the first time that the Knicks like actually have a shot at making a run and the Sixers have been so disappointing year after year after year that it's there's obviously a playoff yeah, there's obviously a difference of excitement in between fan bases right now and you can tell I mean you can just tell it got to the point where during foul shots I thought it seemed like every shot that the Sixers were taking was for free chicken yeah because they would miss and the crowd would go crazy

yeah the end the every single time from the MVP chance that could have been the Nova that could have been the Sixers Twitter guy though. Yeah. Is the process a failure? No, I mean, no. You get to buy Saris off the books, hopefully you can bring in role players next year. Did you guys go- did the process get you to the Eastern Conference Final? Where is it?

Joel Embiid is still there, Tyrese Maxey is still there, you still have two stars on the team. If you can build a team and not put $200 million into a guy that can't get you 10 points in a playoff game, then you have some room to work with. Again, I think we're talking about the, not the process, we're talking about the results of the process when we should be focused on the process of the process. True. And the fact is the process of the process worked and they got a bunch of good draft picks. Yeah. It was, we're just results guys now all of a sudden we're judging the process and the process doesn't actually, you can't

judge the process until like Joel Embiid retires until yes. Actually you can never. I mean, Joel Embiid is still a top player in this game. Like when he has his gas, when he has his gas yeah Yeah, he ran out of gas runs out of gas every but like that was the problem because as soon as in the first half As soon as we were up 10 he comes off the court Three minutes go by the Knicks tie it up Like you have to be able to weather the storm without your best player being on the court Yeah, like Joel Embiid when he's on the court

Like the Sixers are the better team when he's on the court. Yeah. Like Joel Embiid when he's on the court, like the Sixers are the better team when he's on the court. Yeah. But he just need a guard that can get his own shot, score a bunch of points. That's not what I said. Make shots, make 12 for 17 in the foot in a game. Be reliable in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need one of those. Uh, okay, so Sixers are dead That's official max is burying them Have we already started the conversation max about Josh spending too much time on the commanders not enough time on the Sixers I? Don't care about I don't care about your stupid football team. Okay. All right. That's fair. I've had I've had that conversation That's fair. I've had that conversation. That's fair.

Hank, cocky Hank. Nope. Is he back? No. He even said after the Celtics beat down the Heat, two more games exactly like that and move on. It's a Magic Johnson tweet. Our boy has been lobotomized. He doesn't have any pat. He's

just he's like a robot watching these games now and move on and move on two more games exactly like that and move on. Just forget about the heat. Get it over with. Are you not going to be excited about any games they play until the finals? I'm excited about every game. Yeah. You got just the next game. That was that was good though to your your back. That's why we were upset that cocky Hank was retired because that was I think I said it When we were talking about it on Thursday, like you're gonna 20 piece the heat on Saturday But that was that was just on Saturday. We're focused on Monday We got to do it again Monday do it again Wednesday or Thursday and just move on don't

20 piece 20 piece every time 20 piece if you were to take if you were to rank every player in the series how far down would you have to go to get to the first heat player mmm BAM's pretty good yeah probably four or five yeah BAM's pretty put KP above them mm-hmm yeah you would okay yeah what about coaching no coach it's probably a toss up. Yeah, probably a toss up. We're Missoula guys now, so we gotta say that. If they were playing on the court, Missoula all day.

That's true. Yeah, good point. That's a really good point. He's been there. That's a good point. If they were inside of a batting cage and one of them had to get out with their life, I'm taking Missoula all day. Yep.

Alpha male challenge. Okay, other games The Lakers have beaten the Nuggets in a game We should clarify four quarters in four quarters game the whole game and Hank's wish might be coming true because Jamal Murray is questionable from on a nice game He's got cat all his wishing that the Nuggets get injured if you're a Nuggets fan blame Hank I wish for the record the opposite. I like all the stars. Right, but whenever someone says I don't root for injuries, they're rooting for injuries. I mean you said that a million times on the show. And every time I've been rooting for injuries.

That's fucked up. So there we go. Yeah, in this game, I don't know about you, but it definitely felt like this game was not over until the last minute and a half of the game. Yeah. Even though it was never really that close. Like they got to what? Eight points at one point. Yeah. I think. But it was just like the clock ticking and the Lakers are still up somewhere in the 10 to 17 point range. And the announcers just kept saying like, not over. They still got a big comeback that's coming. So you felt like the big comeback was going to happen until it didn't. Until the game was totally over. And LeBron James is fucking awesome again.

Yeah. Anthony Davis, I love that Anthony Davis is playing with, hey we're not going to win this series but you motherfuckers can't blame me, Energy, every single night because he had 25 and 23. 23 rebounds like he's making sure that whatever blame pie goes around it's not on AD. So one thing that they touched on, the announcers brought this up, and when I looked it up, because it is very impressive. There are now, I believe, one, two, three, four, five, six players to play 21 seasons in the NBA.

It's Vince, Kevin Garnett, Dirk, Robert Parrish, Kevin Will, LeBron. They've each played 21 seasons. LeBron in his 21st season has more points than all the other guys combined in their 21st season. Whoa. Pretty crazy. That is crazy.

We don't think about what LeBron's doing right now in proper context, I don't think, because we've just seen LeBron be awesome for his entire career. But the fact that he's 39 and doing this and him and AD are putting the Lakers on their backs and being like, we're not going not gonna get swept and they have been competitive if you look at the time with a lead in this series it is crazy like winning the series the Lakers are dominating the series yeah but the Nuggets have just won more games no I mean the Nuggets are a problem they're still very good and I expect the Nuggets to win in the next game and close it at home but still even

though we are going to take a lot of pleasure in LeBron getting bounced from the first round of the playoffs, as we should, I think we've earned that right. Yeah. As LeBron haters, it is pretty fucking impressive what he's done. I said it last week when, I think it was game one or two,

when he had that Jamal Murray block, and it looked exactly like the splitter block 10 years ago, and it put everything into perspective, we were like, holy fuck like yeah He's not the same LeBron. That was the peak LeBron who was the best player in the world, but Even still he's playing 39 40 42 minutes a night and putting up insane numbers and he is old. Oh This is breaking news for me coming across my timeline breaking breaking moves, okay, OJ's dead

Joel and beat is the fourth player in the last 25 post seasons with multiple games in the same series shooting Oh in five or worse in the fourth quarter. Oh Run out of gas He has bells palsy. He's a hybrid He's a hybrid car. We're onto the next game. What are we doing here? That's not breaking news.

It was breaking news to him. To him, he said. Gotta plug him back in. Yeah. That's tough. He's the anti-LeBron. Yeah, well, we can get back to LeBron hate. We sucked his dick for long enough, I think.

He only won because they stole their shoes for the pregame warm-up. Yeah. And also, his temper tantrum at Darwin Ham was so funny. He was looking, he looked like a five year old not getting their candy bar. Yeah, he just stood there for what, it felt like 10 seconds. Not stand. Screaming at him. Stomped.

Well, stomping at him. He was stomping at him even when the ball was going the other way. He was just continuing to yell at his coach. That was great. For that reason, I wish they'd lost that game where the one where he flipped out on his own coach. Yeah. Regrettably, they won that one. So we won't get to remember that as well. We should. Um, but you know what? I was kind of happy to see the Lakers get one. Yeah, because they needed, I mean that it had gotten so ridiculous the way they were losing and the way the nuggets continued

to snatch their soul, uh, to go out and fighting and win one was big. The gentleman sweep maybe. Yeah. Who's not going out and fighting is the Pelicans. They're done. Cooked. The Thunder are for real. They've been dominating. The first game was close, but since then they've emasculated the Pelicans. And now we have Charles Barkley with all time rants. He said that the Pelicans are so bad they shouldn't go to Cancun,

they should go to Galveston. And then he followed it up the next day. Shaq did a really good job of just, I love Charles Barkley so much, of just getting him to double down because he found out that Beyonce's from Galveston. So he's like, I don't want the Bayhive after me. And so he apologized. And so he apologized. And then I think Shaq said, like, are you going to go to Galveston? He said, the water is so dirty, I'd rather go to San Antonio with those big old women. And then he said that San Antonio, you know about Victoria's Secret, they don't, it's a secret to them because they're too big.

So he basically took one shot at Galveston, apologized and then took another shot at Galveston and then added in San Antonio. And it was one of the funniest TV moments. I think he said like, I'd rather go down to the Riverwalk and watch the big old women. Big old women. It shouldn't be a river. It should be a river treadmill down there. Yeah. Big old women.

He's right about Galveston by the way. Yeah. And we're going to get into that with Curso in a little bit. But Charles, don't let Shaq, don't let the Bayhive, don't let Jay-Z talk you out of what's right. Stand up for yourself. Galveston is a weird fucking beach. Yeah. You don't let the Bayhive, don't let Jay-Z talk you out of what's right. Stand up for yourself. Galveston is a weird fucking beach. You don't want to go there. Yeah. And then also on Saturday, we had the Magic tying the series 2-2. The Magic's defense is so goddamn good. I don't think I've seen this in an NBA playoff game in a long time

where the Cavs went to start the third quarter all the way to garbage time with four minutes left. The Cleveland Cavaliers scored 18 points. Yeah, it was, it was painful. It was very painful for that Cavs offense. I liked the Magic. I think they're a good young team. They're not just great defense. They're not going to do much this year. They might, they might win this series. They're going to make it competitive. I bet on them to win the series. I hope they win the series. But I feel like next two, three years, they might be making some noise. This would be pretty tragic if the Cavs can't win this series because Dan Goebers never won a series without LeBron James.

Yeah, it's a fact. And he's the one who said they're going to win a championship without LeBron James. Yeah, it does feel like the Cavs are at a crossroad where they like, they keep adding people, adding players, adding draft picks. And it's like, they should have something to show for it. And if the magic, the upstart magic who have like, it's just such a funny, when you have two teams, like the magic, if they lose this series, futures bright. If the Cavs lose this series, it's like, what the fuck? We just can't win series. Cause the Cavs lose the series, it's like, what the fuck? We just can't win series. Because the Cavs used to be the magic.

Right. They're a fun young team. And at some point, if you're a fun young team and you don't win, you just age into being mid. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot at stake there. 2-2 series.

And then Sunday, so we talked about the Sixers' Knicks game. If you aren't watching the NBA playoffs, I understand some people are like, oh, fuck the NBA, we don't want to watch the NBA. That Mavericks-Clippers game, especially the fourth quarter, was such awesome playoff basketball when Kyrie, like the Mavericks were down 20 in the first half, but when Kyrie and James Harden were just going shot for shot, and James Harden was insane, Paul George playoff P. That three pointer he made at the end of the shot clock in the corner where he like you know a step back. Incredible shot to make. That was that was what playoff basketball should be. Those two teams they find a way. I know Kawhi was out again which was actually good for the Clippers because he was so bad on Friday.

Yeah they moved the ball. Yeah and he just looks injured. But that game was so much fun to watch. And like Kyrie, when Kyrie gets going and he just starts making just like insane shot after insane shot, it's so much fun to watch. There was one layup he had today that I think it was like a triple pump fake.

Yeah, he was in the air. He clutched it like three times and made the layup. And he wasn't surprised that he made it. No. And I was actually not shocked at all that went in because I've seen Kyrie do that Within eight feet of the basket Kyrie is a fucking magician Yeah, and always has been but it was just it was great basketball to watch you, right? It was it was a lot of fun down the stretch and I kept I kept thinking like this would be an all-time collapse by the Clippers, but then the Clippers just kept playing great basketball and offense and holding them off and it ended up just being a great game on both sides.

Yeah, it was so much fun. It was so much fun. And then the other... Palmer in the front row, loving it, living it up. Cuban, who he doesn't own the team, but he still gets all the camera time. Is he involved with the team? I think he still is, but he can be fired at any moment. I still don't really understand that entire. He gave up his ownership? Yeah. So he's like owner, was it?

They kept him employed? Emeritus? Yeah. I think they were just like, yeah, you can just keep your seats and tell people that you own the team. Yeah, you've been around for like, they probably just kept him to yell at the refs.

Yeah. Yeah, probably. Do your work, cubes. And then the Pacers and Bucks, the B going outside. Well, then I know box fans. Yeah, they're very injured Dame was out this game Bobby Porter's got ejected Chris Middleton's hurt. Yannis is not played yet. I Understand if you're a Bucks fan, you're like, this is bullshit our injuries injuries happen and injuries bounce your way and sometimes they don't because I just want to remind everyone that when Kevin Durant almost single handedly

beat the box their championship season James Harden and Kyrie Irving were hurt so they happen they happen in sports Jason what was that game seven I know you guys lost by a billion but Jason Tatum rolled on the ankle yeah on the first play of game seven. It sucks. I understand being very bummed out about it, but you can't like they just sometimes they go your way. Sometimes they don't. Yeah, they're really not going their way this time, but they really didn't go.

They really went their way when they won a title and I never apologize for a title. I'm not taking away the Bucs title, but you also can't then you can't just ignore the injuries that happen when you win a title and then be like, the Pacers stink. They're just getting lucky because we're injured. It also makes it very hard for the Bucs to figure out what they have to do this off season. The fact that their main guys aren't showing up

at 100% in the playoffs, how do you evaluate that going into next year? I don't know. Like, are you honest with yourself when you say, like, the team wasn't really clicking that well to begin with? Yeah. I don't know. Or do you say, and you say like the team wasn't really clicking that well to begin with Yeah, I don't know or do you say like let's talk. We'll fix it Yeah, let that yeah, let the doc take a look at it that Tyrese Halberton game winner on Friday, which that was the weirdest

Crazy and started at 430 in Central Time It was very bizarre to have a game like I was watching overtime and it was still very light out. Yeah, but yeah Tyrese Halberton Incredible finish incredible game. Yeah, Chris Middleton just I thought he was gonna hit three in a row. He had two insane three-pointers to keep the game extended but yeah the Pacers are fun. They're like they're fun young team and I like watching them run up and down the court. Yeah yeah I mean that game was one of the best ones of the playoff so far Yeah, double overtime

Incredible, but it was weird Hank and I walked in the studio and we're like this game's not live Is it yeah, because it was in the first quarter like there's no there's no chance this game's on right now Yeah, it's like a replay. Yeah, it was very bizarre triple header. I guess Alright, so we'll talk about the Sun's wolves when it finishes There's eight minutes left in the game. The wolves are trying to sweep the Suns. Hank you're up 3-1 on the Leafs. Poor Leafs. Swim in 3-0. And the Leafs are melting down. We're gonna have Biz or Whitney on on Friday to talk some hockey. They're melting down. Probably all Bruins fans game game five or I guess game six if it goes back to Toronto but

yeah they're there they're the filly of the NHL Stack team can't get out of the first round process Just it's a bummer. It's that least it is sad for historic franchise like the Leafs Pft your team now technically is eliminated. It technically we are Today they actually didn't follow of my keys to the game. So this game shouldn't count. Ovi didn't get a shot. Again.

Okay, so I can spin zone this a couple ways. Number one. I got one for you as well after you're done. Okay. Number one, the Capitals should get credit for the Rangers winning this series and for the Rangers turning into the juggernaut they are. Because the Rangers turned around their entire franchise a couple years ago when Tom Wilson in a horrifying act of violence threw Panarin to the ground.

Or was it, no, it was Zabinajad. Threw him to the ground. One of the two. Anyways, they accused him basically of attempted murder. They wrote a letter, an open letter, begging the league to suspend Tom Wilson or have him arrested. And then they fired their entire front office after that because they realized that they were a soft hockey team.

Since that moment, the Rangers have turned it around. They've built themselves up into being a tougher hockey team, more talented hockey team, a more cohesive hockey team, all directly from the fact that Tom Wilson absolutely bodied you in your own house one time. So in a way, the Caps kind of couldn't take credit for winning the series for building the Rangers into the juggernaut that they are right now. They were a much better team than the Caps. Ovi looked awful this entire playoff series, which is weird because he looked good at the end of the regular season, but he did not look

like the Ovi that I've grown to know and love and watch over the last, how many years? Came in the league in like 2004? He looked very different. So now I'm even thinking like next year, what is it going to be? Is it going to be Ovi just like running out there for power plays, hoping to get a shot from his office where he can still snipe it in? I don't know. If this is what Alexander Ovechkin is, he might not get the goals record because like this playoff series, going multiple games without a single shot from one of the greatest goal scorers of all time, if not the greatest goal scorer of all time was just bizarre to watch. And it was sad. And I was telling Big Cat before he taped, I just really wanted at least one more day where I could be like, I have appointment television.

Yeah. You got something you got to do. It's like tonight, the caps are in a playoff game. Can't wait to watch. But they're in a weird spot where they've They've been sellers at the trade deadline the past two seasons Without really an opportunity of doing anything big in the playoffs They got into the playoffs this year, even though we're in the middle of a rebuild But it still does feel like the caps next season is just going to be dedicated to Ovi Getting the all-time scoring record and when he's not playing that well, then's like well what are we doing as a hockey team so I obviously Ovi's gonna be back next year I hope that he's not I hope that it's not something that's

wrong with him I hope that just maybe it was a long season that ended up getting the best of him but he looked fucking awful yeah awful this entire series and we got our asses kicked it got to a point where I was hoping that you could decline penalties in hockey yeah you said that out loud. Yeah, I said it out loud. I know you can't decline penalties in hockey, but they got, I think in three out of four games, they got a shorthanded goal. And at least in another game, they had another goal that should have been a shorthanded goal that was just barely, they missed. I forget what it was, maybe off the pipe or something. But the power play sucked,

everything sucked. A couple of young guys stepped up a little bit all in all The haters were right about the about the the capitals so I got a spin zone for you, okay I have a rule of hard and fast rule when it comes to the playoffs If you get eliminated within a single week it never really happened That's the beauty of it if You like that was so fast. It was seven days. Yeah. In and out. No one's going to remember you're in the playoffs, which is probably for the better. And that's like, it doesn't, you didn't even people like I'd be a trivia question. Who, who was AC'd in the 2024? But no one will know. No one

knows. Yeah. It happened so fast. I didn't get a chance to get excited by it by anything in this series right it was over before you you were the You're 1o in the first game right were we no I don't know I think we're down I think it was zero zero down like the whole time. It was zero zero after one period. Yeah, we're tied We're tied in the first game. Yeah, we'll always have that it was We were tied in the first game. Yeah. We'll always have that. It was, yeah, no, it was three nothing in the first game before the Capitals scored their first goal.

So they were literally just, like I said, it was just overbearing. Is that true? I thought that we had one goal. No, I'm looking at it right now. It was three nothing and then it was three one. It was three to one. Oh, that's because- Because you scored a goal.

But that's because their three goals basically all happened at the same time, so I eliminated those three minutes from the game. They happened very quickly. Yeah, you were the Abe Simpson just walking in, walking out of the playoff. Yeah, today was over after about, I think, 57 seconds. They scored their first goal. Yeah, the game wasn't even on yet. It wasn't.

We didn't get it on the TV yet. We were already down. So I feel like you never win those games. Yeah. If you're losing by the time you get it on. But it just, this didn't even happen. Didn't happen. You're good. Didn't happen. You're good. I apologize to Red Wings fans. I apologize to hockey fans You were right. You were right. The caps probably shouldn't have been in the playoffs this year. Yeah, but we will get biz and

And or Whitney on this week to talk some more playoffs. I have, we have to decide our period of the week. I've got a new nominee. I do too. Is it the third period of the Preds-Canucks? Yes. Yeah. That was crazy. Yeah, it was wild.

The Preds had an open netter to win the game. Missed it by inches. Bounced it off the pipe. And then two goals with the goalie pulled. Yep. For the Canucks, goes into overtime, Canucks win. One with like three minutes left and then they scored one with eight seconds left.

Yeah, it was an awesome end to that period. Yeah, so that, I think we can just say that's period of the week. That's my vote. Yeah, anyone else got any other nominees? Period of the week. Any other periods you wanna talk about? Any other periods?

Hank, you're an Objian. Yeah. No, I mean the fourth quarter the quarters don't count, right? Well, the overtime you're talking about. He's talking about basketball. He's trying to bring basketball. No, it's periods of the week. Well, like Alex Bennett's not in this anymore. No other periods of the week for me. Yeah, you could say you could call a quarter a period It is a period of time. I Love the end of that Clippers. Oh so good. It was so good. Did that be period of the week? No, I think we got to stick with periods. That'd be period of the week No, I think we have to give him a period so we guys that could be quarter of the week

Okay, that could be quarter of the week if you want that would you like to nominate that? Yeah, it doesn't sound as cool as period of the week. No period of the week is awesome Right, maybe max is texting when he was drunk last night Hank period pussy pussy Being a pussy about the Celtics. Yeah, that was actually that might be period of the week I might be here in between pussy of the week. Yeah Hank period pussy period Max were you were you actually upset at Hank for how he's acting? Yeah. Yeah, I was mad. I was a little mad, too You know Mac Mac is drunk and he wants to fight me. That's that's pretty much

It's like you have a good team and you you one little heat loss and you're you took your ball. I'm focused I got focused you were literally talking about matching up against the Nuggets and you would lose one game I got ahead of myself and now I'm back on the right track We're right back on the right track. We are we got ahead of ourselves. Yeah All right other any other hockey To talk about I know the Oilers in the first round has been, I don't want to say mid, but it doesn't feel, there's been a couple good series. I think the Knights Stars series still has a way to get, that might go seven. And both teams have won, or all the road teams have won. But like, got a lot of three ones out there.

Yeah. Got a lot of three ones, and that's usually, I want a couple game sevens. I feel like usually the NHL playoffs would get at least one or two game sevens in the first round. I feel like the Bruins are on a heater right now. Yeah.

Yeah, we have a sweep in all three ones except the two one that is the stars nights. That's crazy. Okay. Should we talk some NFL draft? We should talk some NFL draft recap the NFL draft. Basically Friday and Saturday. I don't know how you guys consume the weekend of the NFL draft. I essentially just wait for the Bears pick and then I'm like, great pick. And then everything else, like if a QB Spencer Rattler went, everyone said that he sucked as a high schooler. Yeah. Bad demeanor.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to do it. I like to watch the draft on Friday, like, kind of like I do on Thursday, where I pay close attention for at least the first few picks. Yeah. And then I quickly realize, oh yeah, this isn't nearly as entertaining as the Thursday is. Oh yeah, second round, I get locked in on the guys that my team picks in the second round. Yeah, I didn't have a second round pick this year. So I have a couple things I'll throw out there that we can

talk about. JJ McCarthy's initial picture showing up to the Vikings facility was very funny. Someone aptly said that it had big time mom, I grew up energy. He has like a wrinkled suit. Also, JJ McCarthy has been nominated by Colin Coward as the number one backwards hat energy quarterback in this draft class.

Backwards hat energy. Yes. That's different from actually wearing a backwards hat. That's got to just be the hair. He said it's hair, cocky Michigan guy. Backwards hat energy. OK. All right. But it's hair cocky Michigan guy backwards hat errors Okay, all right, but it's it's awesome that cowards throwing backwards had energy onto a guy not wearing a backwards hat Yeah, where it's like you I don't like that. You would be a backwards. He's trying to call his shot If you wore a backwards hat, I would hate you. Yeah, we had the funniest trade

Be realized in this year's NFL when the New England Patriots selected Joe Milton with the draft pick they got for Mack Jones. So that was perfect. They basically did pimp my ride with exhibit and they're like, Hey, you liked your quarterback? We put a cannon on him, but he can only throw cannons. Yeah. You want a deep ball guy and Hank, I would, I would start looking right now at Joe Milton. I've, I've had look at arm. No, Hank. Hey, be controversy. I think it might be that's more excited about Joe Milton. It's gotta be a Drake. It's gotta be an open competition because if you watch Joe Milton throwing off passes, you will, the highlights for Joe Milton are higher than anybody else's highlights. Ball looks real

light in his hand. You at least you have a Hail Mary guy. Yeah, I mean he's exciting. He's an exciting player. Kind of redundant with Jacoby Resett on the roster. Yeah, really. That's he was the designated sneak and Hail Mary guy. Yeah, but Joe Milton will be both of those. Yeah, for sure. Imagine if we got Harrison Jr. and then we had Joe Milton.

Yeah, yeah. He would run go-rounds. He would throw the ball off his helmet whenever he was, you know, within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. It is great though that it was Mack Jones, the Mack Jones pick the sixth round where they traded Mack Jones and got back. They then upgraded to Joe Milton cannon arm. I think it's worth taking a flyer on Joe. Yeah, absolutely. The the Bears got Sam Hartman. I think no, I think the commanders my managers got Sam. Yeah, we got someone else Some other I don't even know. Yeah

I got a punter the yeah, you got a Iowa punter, which is awesome. He's very experienced He's got a lot of a lot of mileage on that leg though punting at Iowa. Listen, he I like Saying hey best player available if it's a punter. It's a punter. Yeah. Yeah, that's what the the commanders did throughout the entire draft They just went best player available and we got Ben Senate the the low man trophy winner from Kansas State. I like that He's awesome. I'm he's he's mini kiddle. We're not doing baby Gronk anymore. He's baby kiddle And he's gonna be good. And then I also like Like I like Newton the guy from Illinois. Yeah, dude's a problem Yeah in the second round you got in the second round. We got him

Also, there was a moment Max and I were watching the draft together and the commanders traded our pick to the Philadelphia Eagles It was in the second round Max starts pounding his chest being like I want Cooper. I want I thought I thought I was asking to sign Riley Cooper again it was really weird how angry he was getting. And then they end up drafting Cooper to Gene. And Max, you thought that they would have brought the pope into town. Max was just loving it.

And it was honestly a little bit uncomfortable how hard you were celebrating that pick. I think everybody in the bar was like, why does this guy like this white defensive back so much, Max? That's not what happened, even slightly true. Okay. So, give us the slight truth. PFT was very excited because his team was up and he wanted to get Cooper Dejean and

then the Eagles traded and then he just started immediately going like, Max, why do you like this pick so much? Why do you like this pick so much? Oh, you really want this guy? You really want this guy? Hmm, that's interesting. When he was really upset that he didn't get him. So he was just using all of that against me.

It was an all time moment in deflection. I just pegged Max as a racist. I was like, look how much this racist wants this white quarterback. Kind of pathetic. I'm really pathetic how much you want this guy But yeah, so I think the Eagles got fleece in that trade regardless. Yeah But I was you did get Sam Hartman. I was thinking of Austin Reed from Western, Kentucky

The Bears got as an undraft free agent. I love the undraft of free agents. Yeah sign everyone what I hate to poo poo PFT, but how did a tight end win the low man trophy? He was a hybrid. He was a fullback tight end. Also, I don't vote on it. Actually, I do vote on it. That's a lie.

But the people that nominate the fullbacks, they take care of that. And he did play fullback. Yeah. He's both. He's kind of like a mix between Kittle and Juszczak. By the way, PFT, did you see your new quarterback, Jaden Daniels, when he was seven years old, wrote on a piece of paper, I will play in the NFL? I saw that.

How many pieces of paper have that for people who did not play in one of the four major sports? Oh, I was going to be... I definitely wrote it. I was going to be the first baseball player astronaut. More pieces of paper with I will play in fill in the blank league and never realizing that than traffic lights in Manhattan. Oh, for sure, yeah, way more.

Way more than toilets in the country. It's millions every year. Every year you get a new. Toilets in the country? Way more. Think about Russell Wilson's house. Way more than toilets in the country. It's millions every year. Every year you get a new. Toilets in the country? Way more. Think about Russell Wilson's house. Way more. He's got like 75 toilets.

But he doesn't get 75 new toilets the next year. Think about all the toilets in stadiums. Next year. So you think it's more? It's more toilets. It's infinity? It's infinity number? There's more toilets, yeah.

Oh, you think there's more toilets? I think so, yeah. Yeah, Hank doesn't. It's in the billions. You think it's in the billions pieces of paper. Yeah, Wow Your first job out of college if you become an accountant or salesperson You should have to say like, you know every day when I was a kid I'll grow up looking at the poster on my wall. I had that said one day I will play in the NFL

Yeah, and today I'm an accountant because I wasn't good enough at football. But what if it was a forensic accountant? Do you think there's any but ever been a kid who's written down, I someday want to be a forensic accountant? Maybe now because of Shohei. Yeah. That's kind of a cool thing. All right, the Timberwolves are up two with two and a half minutes left.

All right, other draft notes I had. Keon Coleman rocks. Yes. That was an awesome introductory press conference when he was like, guess where I got this jacket from and then one of the bills Reporters like from Tom is oh, he's like no Macy's yeah, then oh my he also said Keon Coleman said that he went out on he saw the field and he scored three touchdowns in his head in 30 seconds

Which as far as he knows is a record. It's a record. Well, it's a record for thinking that you scored. It's he definitely set that. I actually would say that's not a record. I've never thought that I've scored more than three in 30 seconds. Three seems to be like two. I don't know. I think there's gotta be a Buffalo Bills fan who's looked at that end zone and just been like touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Boom. How did that go? Like when you scored your first touchdown,

you recovered onside kick I think he just was like oh, I'm a score touch on the back corner And then I'm gonna get one in the front yeah one in the middle the part about the coat was so funny, too Talk about how he buys his coats in the offseason so right now. He's looking at shopping for winter coats Yeah, if you get it now. It's it's way less expensive than if you wait until like October yeah, November to get it. Also Xavier LeGatte. Awesome voice. Awesome, awesome voice. Love his press. Incredible. I would I would listen to him just read the phone book. Yeah, he's great. We

also had Oh, speaking of the bills, Josh Allen will be the first quarterback in NFL history to hand off or throw a pass to two separate Frank Cores. Oh, yeah, Frank or Junior time with him. Yeah. Yeah. And he played with Frank or senior. Yeah, that's kind of cool. That is very cool. And Frank or Jr. He, his dad is really standing for him pretty hard, which I love. Yeah, that's like, yeah, he's a carbon copy of me. We had all the same measurables. Nobody thought I was gonna be a great running back. That was probably

because of the injuries in college. Yeah. But yeah, what if Frank Gore Jr? What if he just plays for 20 years? Listen, Frank Gore Jr. I got to look it up. There was a game where Southern Miss didn't have a quarterback and he played, I think he played quarterback and running back and it was just the Frank Gore Jr. for the entire game where he like ran the ball 30 times through it a few times. And it was awesome. I was like, I'm a Frank Corp Jr. guy now too. Yeah, he's fun. There's actually a bunch of sons that got signed. It was Frank Gore Jr. Jerry Jerry Rice's kid got

drafted a little bit later than people thought. We have another McCaffrey in the NFL. Yep, He's a wide receiver, was a quarterback. And then there was somebody else. What other, what others? Oh, Jeremiah Trotter. Jeremiah Trotter for the Eagles. That was a cool moment. I like that. I love all the behind the scenes phone calls where they show the GM picking up the phone, calling the kid, the owner gets on the line. That was a great one because they also talked to Jeremiah Trotter senior and it looked like Laurie was going to cry. Yeah, no, it Trotter senior and it looked like Laurie was gonna cry Yeah, no, it was cool. He talked about he was like I've known you since you're about two or three

Yeah, Axeman Axeman jr. Coming in yeah, I think also memes wanted me to say Joe Walt He was he was screaming say Joe Walt say Joe Walt say Joe Walt. I guess Oh Joel's dad's play. Yeah. Yeah, and Joe Walt very hardball Joe all came to the facility in a harbaugh immediately It was like who's taller you or your dad. He made them stand back to back He's meeting his new first-round pick he's like you guys stand back to back. I gotta check this out real Yeah, maybe what genes were working with cuz maybe room to grow if his dad's tall. Yeah true Alright other notes. I had I think that's oh, I mean we didn't talk about on Thursday working with. Because maybe room to grow if his dad's taller. Yeah, true. All right. Other notes I had, I think that's, oh, I mean, we didn't talk about it on Thursday. We should

have those bad job by us. Roger Goodell was just perked out. Yeah, he was, he was pill headed. He was duck walking. Yeah. Moving slow, talking slow. He was standing very close to Eminem at the start of the show. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, I mean, he, he got his, he got his back blown out. Yeah. By the way, did Bradley Beal say something before this game, like, we're not going out like this? And I think he scored nine points.

That's tough. Yeah. I don't think. No trade clause, too. Bradley Beal. Yeah, we'll have to recap this as soon as it goes final. The Mavs, or sorry, the Wolves are up four right now with a minute 40. I want them to sweep them.

And we're going to talk about it with Peter Schreger in a little bit, but the video that came out on Friday of David Tepper walking into the Charlotte area restaurant because the sign outside said, please let the GM make the picks this year. Tepper saw that. He went in there with, how many goons did he have with him? He had like at least-

He just, he had one guy. I think it was one goon. But it was kind of like a's I think he hired a security guard That's just basically Tepper light like they had the same body type. Yeah doesn't really make a lot of sense So they go in there and on the on the security footage. They're talking to the owner of the restaurant I think it was the owner and the guys wearing a hat and Tepper just takes his hat off his head and puts it down In front of him. That's the most emasculating move you can do Yeah, taking another man's hat off, especially when you're David temper with that balding pattern. Yeah, cuz he has classic. Yeah rich guy Male pattern baldness if an owner took my hat off my head

I would show up like Christopher multisante in the neck brace like Tony Khan. Yeah, I'd be like oh that you broke my neck Yeah, when you took my hat off yeah he a complete like in the report came out after like he wasn't bothered mm-hmm every time I'm not bothered I try to steal someone's hat yeah if honestly if somebody took your hat off because it was a big day online for people being like I don't care who you are if another man takes my hat off would never I'm gonna beat the shit out of him up in that situation would you have fucked David Tepper up? I would have fucked him up. I thought about that and I was like I think I would have liked to say that I fucked

him up but I do think that faking an injury is the right move. Do you know what he should have done is for a guy like David Tepper who's probably very litigious so you don't want to get in a lawsuit with him and everything and you know there's cameras, guy takes your hat just throw him a fucking fake punch and watch and you know, there's cameras guy takes your hat Just throw him a fucking fake punch and watch him flinch like a bitch. Yeah, is that assault? I don't think it is No, definitely not. Yeah, don't touch him. Yeah, you then would have to do two for flinching. Yeah, you can then say is assault No, but legally two for flinching. That's allowed. That's yeah, that is allowed But imagine if that was on the tape where yeah, that'd be good. You're you just like little jook him He's oh, I would have done

Yeah, if and then you could maybe even get the other guy to throw a punch and then now now Now you're set. I would have been like, I'm sorry We spilled some of our famous sauce on your chest and then he looks down and boop Yeah, do that one to him who got hurt in the Suns game? The coach. Oh, no, what happened? Wait, that's not there was a loose ball But that's like an assistant coach. Oh No, that is the coach shit That's bad

By the way did Anthony Edwards just snatch a soul Katie didn't jump up business decision damn But he snatched him is that guy okay? What what just happened? Mike Connelly was going for a loose ball on the sideline, ran right into the coach. Chris Finch just went down? Yep.

Oh, fuck. And did not get up. This guy does not look ready to coach. He does not. He's got the biggest, oh shit, I am not prepared for this look on his face right now. He's Dennis Hopper, Drunken Hoosiers. Yeah. Being like, I don't want to be out here.

Yeah, this is, they better make these free throws. This, I mean. He's not ready. I'm rooting for the Suns now. Can you pull it up for us? He looks like he just did not do any assignment whatsoever. Now he's about to give a presentation. Oh, all right.

Now he's fighting with the other assistant. All right, they made their first. Oh, his knee? That didn't look like it was that bad. Oh, and it was it was Mike Conley. Oh, I don't know. Oh, no. Is that a knee or like broken leg? I don't know Oh no Is that a knee or like broken leg?

What if he just has to poop? He's like the Paul Pierce all over again He's got to finish this game I think he's saying if they were not down 3-0 Is this LeBron? Oh I don't know This is very funny though. To lose your coach to a knee injury right before a sweep.

You know Hank- Oh it's Hank- Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not Frank Vogel. They gotta show him again. I wanna see him again. He looks like Joe Pronte. I gotta find out like- Where's Joe Pronte? Yeah. Do youty. I got it. I got to find out like we're Joe Prunty Yeah, do you think they've got reporters following this guy to the locker room? Oh, they have to for x-rays Yeah, they have to they have to give us a report on this. Um Okay, I think that was everything from the draft. Yeah. Oh shout out our guy Tony Shuffler. Did you guys see that? No, he rocked he got up Did a great speech said put Mike Shannon in the Hall

of Fame and they said, God bless Bo Nicks. He was doing the Broncos pick and then he got Josh McDaniels trending, which was great. That's awesome. Yeah. So there was just a bunch of people being like, Tony Shuffler was one of my favorite draft picks. What could have been if Josh Mc Joshua Taylor didn't trade him and Jay Cutler? I love that. Good for Tony. Just getting a lot of hate on Joshua Daniels. All right. Let's do who's back of the week.

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Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. All right. Who's back back the week? Let's save Suns and wolves for after Caruso before we do lottery ball So we'll we'll recap the Suns debacle if they end up losing So if you want to listen to that if you want to if all wolves fans don't get upset we mentioned you We're gonna mention you we'll get to that after a Caruso and trigger Hank Who's back the week my who's back the week is MLB uniforms. Mmm. get to that after Caruso and Trigger. Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is MLB uniforms. I had that too. Nice, congrats. There was a report that came out that basically said, Nike fucked up the uniforms, we're working to fix them, we're going to get the bigger names on the back of the jerseys, and everything should be fixed at the latest at the start of 2025 season. What? Yeah, they also absolved the weight fanatics completely. I don't know if that was you know, it's interesting. The fix was in it's interesting, isn't it? But it was it made very clear that it was entirely a Nike issue and no nothing to do with anyone else. Not a fanatics problem at all. Just a weird what's what's just Nike. So yeah, they're returning to the larger

lettering on the back of the jerseys. They're fixing the mismatched gray tops and bottoms. Okay. And they're addressing Nike's propensity to collect sweat, meaning like the pooling of the sweat and also the see-throughness of the pants. See-throughness. So you've got a problem when that has to be put into the press. Yeah, they should be less see-through in the pants. See-throughness. So, yeah. You know you've got a problem when that has to be put into the press room. Yeah, they should be less see-through in the pants area. The see-throughness. Yeah. The players should be able to slide. Yes, without their uniform busting their ass open.

Yeah. I'm sad. I mean, I'm glad that we get to watch an entire more seasoned baseball with having this be like a weird thing that we get to all pay attention to and make fun of. Yeah, that doesn't make it fun. I like that. I like that. But yeah, they're trying to fix it.

Now, I read one thing that said that the guys in the MLBPA might be investors in fanatics. And so maybe that was why people are pointing at Nike for being the problem, not fanatics. I think it's just a weird coincidence. Probably just one of those weird coincidences, yeah. So Nike. So it was Nike. They said Nike was trying to innovate something that didn't need to be innovated which is fair Sometimes you got to take a shot

right Take a chance. No, I It's a debacle by fanatics and Nike. Yeah, I mean that's what Nike that's what I do Yeah, like that's basically what what businesses do they they innovate stuff and they're like you need this now Yeah, yeah, that's that all the time. Yeah, aren't you bored with the thing that's been working all these years? Yeah Hey, you know your phone don't you need a new one? Yeah. Well, no, not really don't you need another camera? What's your phone? Well, it's too bad your battery sucks now and you have to get a new one Yeah ever thought uh, hey if I'm standing a mile away from a mountaintop,

do you want to zoom in and be able to see a flower on that mountaintop? You find yourself in this position a lot. You definitely need one. Hey, aren't you sick of having a phone, an iPad, a computer? Don't you want a giant, huge phone that wraps around your eyes and doesn't allow you to watch porn on it? Wouldn't that be good? Yeah, that would be good.

Yeah, sign me up. Yeah, aren't you sick of talking to people and going outside? Yeah. Well, we have your escape. Yeah, here you go. You love this now. Yeah, hey, remember that truck you had?

What if we just made it a big cube and called it a cyber truck? Yeah. What if we- We fixed it. Aren't you sick of your brain having its own thoughts? Wouldn't you rather just have a chip in there that does all your thoughts for you? Yeah. Wouldn't that be better?

That would be better. By the way, I have a hack. I shouldn't say it. Because it's gonna if you're ever in traffic, and you're trying to merge into a lane you shouldn't be merging into. Yeah. Wait for a Tesla, they automatically have to stop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the cars with the sensors. I shouldn't say that because that well actually I don't have a Tesla so I don't give a fuck but yeah little little hack for people out there. It's good. Pretty good right. Unless it's the one time where it doesn't stop. Then you're fucked. Yeah. But those those cars will stop and then you're good to go when you're the asshole who has to merge. It's smart. Yeah. My Who's Back

of the Week was going to be old uniforms, but Hank took it, so I'm going to say my Who's Back of the Week is Kony. You guys remember Kony? Yeah, that was what, that was a Billy football play. Yeah, that was Billy football play in Uganda. Yeah, it was their goal line package. And then their whole team was like, we don't say that word. Yeah.

Please stop saying that word. And Billy kept looking around like, Kony? Yeah. Kony? Why are they all looking at me weird to say Coney? So apparently Russian mercenaries, they're a good group. They're in hot pursuit of the notorious warlord Joseph Coney. After a bloody near capture in a remote corner of the Central African Republic earlier this month, sources tell Rolling Stone magazine. So Coney might be on he might be like dead. Maybe we did it. Oh, all those YouTube clicks dead. Maybe we did it.

Oh, shit. All those YouTube clicks that we did back in 2012. See a bitch. Finally paid off. He's finally gone? He's finally gone. But also according to Billy, something in Uganda that people just say all the time is they call each other Kony.

So if, if there's a politician that you don't like, you'll be like, that guy is basically Kony. Or he'll be like, I think he is Coney. And then it's like a slur you can put on somebody got the Coney accusations are running wild in Uganda. Who knows if this is the actual Coney? Or if it's just some guy that got accused of being Coney? Because they never caught Coney. So Coney could be anybody. Yeah, he could be Hank. Coney could be Hank. He's our Coney. Yeah. He could be Hank. Coney could be Hank. He's our Coney.

Yeah. Bring back cocky Hank. No. You're up 2-1 and 3-1. Job's not finished. Like what the fuck? You're a pussy. You're a pussy. You are a pussy.

That's fine. I mean, I can't exist on the show. It's literally a breathe one way, breathe the other way. No. Say this. Just be cocky. say that go back saying this Speak don't speak don't we always want you to speak speak. We always want you to speak read speak Be we want all that you did quit speaking when your teams are losing. That's that's just like a gas on anything you guys say I would love a supercut of Hank saying guess. Yeah, we can't speak. Yeah. Yeah, so now you're gaslighting him and you're not speaking again

Well like Matt I mean pf max like your example with pft at the bar like they just say these things that you do at the bar And I was there that didn't happen What pft said correct? Oh, yeah, but the thing is I was joking about joking about that I've never gaslighted you about something you said at a bar. I Don't know what you're talking about. I have it. I Want to say I agree, but I feel yeah bringing this up because I don't go out but also Max Oh, yeah, yeah Max. Oh good Max has said a lot of things in a lot of bars. That's true One thing about Max he'll beat the fuck out of Hank. I

never said that. I never said that. Yeah, you said that. You said that a lot. That wasn't at a bar, to be fair. That was just existing, out loud. Remember when you kept insisting to the mentalist that Shane Victorino was your favorite player? Yeah, let's talk about this. Come on. The guy was like, let's we just get back to Hank?

This poor mentalist was brought around a bar at a Super Bowl party just doing party tricks for the people. He was just trying to wow people, make the time pass. And then he came up to us and he was like, who's your favorite baseball player of all time to Jake? And then Jake was like thinking to himself, he's like, oh, I think I'm going to tell him Derek Jeter. I love Derek Jeter.

And I was like, no, ask me, ask me. My favorite player player Shane Victorino I think I was like well you ruined the trick You're not supposed to say that out loud It's like no, but Shane Victorino fucking rocks by the way Draymond Green said you got to stay in the game coach It's 140 left wish him well though wish him well though called him a pussy wish him well though called him a pussy Alright, my who's back is Kentucky Derby. It is Kentucky Derby week. Very excited for that.

We have Randy Moss coming on Friday. We have JJ Reddick on Wednesday, but PFT, I'll be attending your Kentucky Derby party. This party's gotten so much buzz since Friday when this episode came out. I'm turning people away now. The house is going to be full. That's crazy. Had to go to Costco. Went to Costco.

To Costco Rocks. Yeah, this is our second consecutive part of I take well We'll do an impromptu Costco ad went to Costco today loaded up on hot dogs. You can buy so many things at Costco It's insane. I uh, I had a moment this weekend on Saturday. I was out with my two of my kids and My wife and I was just like she's like, where should we go for lunch? I was like, why don't we go to Costco? She's like for a lunch. I was just like she's like where should we go for lunch I was like why don't we go to Costco she's like for a lunch I was like yeah hot dog the giant slice of pizza and then I got turned down but yeah next

next week we'll be doing that when I just I'll just take the kids we'll go on a sneak Costco run yeah I've officially reached the point in life where I go to Costco and I'm pumped no looking around every time there's a bunch of dads in there doing their shopping weird It's we get you give each other the the Costco old man wave not only that but I love that They check the receipt because then I'm always just like yeah, I didn't rob. Yeah, I check it out, bro It's bad. I have I yeah look at it. I got I got 300 mini cupcakes. Yep, 75 rolls of toilet paper and 16 gallons of laundry detergent.

I didn't rob. That's the cycle of life. That's all you need. One of my favorite things to do is walk into a Costco and act like I'm sneaking in. And then the person's like, excuse me, sir, sir, sir. And then think that they're catching you sneaking in. And then you turn around and you're like, boom.

Costco. Executive card. Yeah, have it. OK, let's get to our interviews. We've got Peter Schrager. We've got Alex Caruso. And then on the other side of the interviews, we will recap the Sons have officially been swept

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So everything is better with a Pepsi. Okay, here he is, Peter Schrager. Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Peter Schrager. He's fresh off his trip to Detroit. The NFL draft 2024 is in the books. Schrags, you can find him on Fox Sports. Good morning, football.

Schrags, let's start with this because we got a lot of questions about winners, losers, stories you heard, but the dust is settled. You are the master of some spin zones. Spin zone the Falcons for us. Yep. Let's go. Let's step right into my office. Okay. Well, it was funny cause it's like, part of me is, all right, have a contrarian take, so I want to defend it.

And then part of me is like, I've got to carry the water for friends in Atlanta. So let's just do what I do. The argument there right now is that there's no worse place to be in the NFL than quarterback purgatory. And there's no worse place to be than nine and eight, eight and nine, 10 and seven, seven and 10. And there's a lot of teams in the league that live in that area. And why that area is so bad is you're just good enough to be in playoff contention every year, but you're not good enough to actually win the thing and you're not bad enough to get a draft

pick. Now, this is very convoluted thinking if you're considering the goal is to win the Superbowl. This move to them ensures that no matter what happens in the next two to three years, three to five years, if it all goes well for both sides, they will not be in quarterback purgatory. They viewed Michael Pennex as a top 10 prospect in this draft. They themselves do not see them being in the top 10 again, now that they have Kirk cousins. So the argument is best player on the board. Yes. And then $180 million, $100 million guaranteed. Kirk's our starter. We fully intend for Kirk to be our starter, but if and when that time comes,

cause he's 36 coming off an Achilles, we have our guy and God forbid something happens to him because yes, quarterbacks do get injured in the league. The season is not down the drains. I think they were really scarred by the Desmond Ritter, Taylor Heinecke, you name whoever else has started from the Mariota, that they don't wanna be in that place again. And I'll say it because I think it is

kind of linked together here. This is the same franchise that looked Bill Belichick in the eyes, had two interviews with him and said, Nope, we're good. Like they're on a limb. They're beating to the beat of their own drummer right here. And in this case, they don't think it's crazy that they took Michael Pennex, if anything, they think more teams should because quarterback is the

most valuable position in this league times 10 and now they have theirs for the future while also having their current one that they feel pretty good about. Even they backed it up with all the money they gave them. Yeah, I, the more I thought about it, I still think it's crazy in the fact that they probably could have traded back and gotten more assets because the teams that were picking right after him, we saw Denver was in love with Bo Nicks. The Vikings were in love with JJ McCarthy. It felt like they could have probably moved around a little bit and fake some teams out and gotten some more draft capital. But the one thing you could say for the Falcons is it was known as a weak draft for defense. There wasn't a defensive player taking to the 15th pick. And what were the Falcons going to do? I think the best player available was Roma Dunze who went to the Bears Bears but if they take another wide receiver they get killed for that because that would have been four years in a row that they took a running

back wide receiver a tight end. So I guess listen they have a chance to be right and right now they're laughing sock but if it works out there'll be geniuses for it. The stat I got in the modern draft era, which is 1966, they're the first team ever to draft for skill position players on offense with top eight picks four years in a row. That's why you do it. You do London, you do Bijon and now you do panics. I would add one more thing. Like when you're talking about that purgatory and they didn't name names or name teams to me, but they were just saying in general, like, that's not a place

you want to be. We don't, we don't expect to be in the top 10 anytime soon. Like we think we're going to contend, especially in the NFC South with CUSP. But you, I started thinking like, well, who would they be your friend? And you start thinking, you're like, all right, like look at Pittsburgh, the last decade, look at Denver, the last decade. None of these teams have first overall picks, but they are in that 10 to 20 range that, you know, and it's all right. The Titans and it's like, all right, well, how are you getting a quarterback?

Well, in this case, they got theirs. Now someone said to me, you know, it's like Jordan Lovett and we've all debunked that. The analogy to me is imagine the Jets signed Aaron Rodgers last year and did all that hoopla and then drafted a quarterback in the top 10. Like that's how this feels. It's not Jordan Lovett, Aaron Rodgers. It's the Jets kind of signing Aaron Rodgers. Cousins, that relationship was in a great place. I think Cousins threw out a first pitch to a Braves game a couple of days ago. I think cousins that relationship was in a great place. I think cousins threw out a first pitch to a Braves game a couple of days ago. I think, and I have to double check this. I think he was part of like the Falcons draft festivities.

Like the whole thing. The old Mike Lennon. Yeah. So I was going to ask you about Kirk. Have you checked in on him? Is he okay? We haven't. We heard a little bit about every other media member apparently has had a heart to heart

with them. The day of the amount of people that tweets like Kirk is, Kirk was surprised apparently has had a heart to heart with them. The day of, the amount of people who had tweets like Kirk was surprised. There's like 18 different versions of it. I haven't reached out. And I know his agent, Mike McCartney, very well, but I haven't spoken to him either. Yeah, no, apparently he didn't know that was going to happen.

But I've told this story, and I'll tell it one more time. Peyton was with the Saints, and they had the 11th pick in the draft in 2018 or 2017, sorry, and they wanted Mahomes, like Mahomes is number one on their board. And they hadn't told Breeze, they had no intention of telling Breeze, but if Mahomes somehow fell to 11, they were taking a quarterback. And then Drew Breeze out of nowhere, had never done this in his career, called up Sean Payton. They're like best friends. And it's like, I've got a couple of buddies in town. Is it cool if I bring them to the war room tonight with a draft?

So then Sean has to decide like, what do I do here? And he tells the story. I don't know if he ever told it publicly, but it's great. And he's like, so right then and there I'm like, sure. And then I pulled Drew aside and like, there's a chance there's this kid from Texas Tech we really like. Like, if there's a chance, he might take him. And as picks go by, one by one by one,

like he sits Drew down, like seventh pick overall. And he says to Drew, he's like, we're gonna take the Texas Tech quarterback. And to Drew Brees' credit, because the story is much better if Drew Brees takes out like a two by four and breaks it over pay and said, he was just like, gotta do what you gotta do. And this is the height of Drew Brees is credit because the story is much better if Drew Brees takes out like a two by four and breaks over pay and said, he was just like, gotta do what you gotta do. And this is the height of Drew Brees.

Like I think the next year they went to the NSC championship game and Breeze is like, you gotta do what you gotta do for the future. I totally get it. Like Breeze was cool about it. And then Andy Reed trades up one pick before them gets my homes. They take Marshawn Latimore and Breeze was there to watch it all. But like, it's never a comfortable conversation. Yeah.

And if you don't take the guy, you don't ever want to even like, uh, let the other quarterback know that the, cause the alternative is what happened to Rogers, where he was I think down in Peru or Chile when it happened and was completely blindsided and was upset by it. But cousins, um, I think he left Minnesota cause he wanted that commitment, right? And these guys gave him the commitment, but here comes Michael Pennex, who, Chris Sims made a great point, come training camp. Cousins is awesome, obviously. Cousins is still rehabbing. No one throws a prettier football, maybe anywhere in the league or in college than Michael Pennex. I was

at the combine, like two feet behind him. It was like watching Mozart compose music or it was like watching van Gogh. It was just like this lefty big release with this like tight spiral throws just bullets. But they're like so beautiful. And it's once these players start catching passes from Penex and cousins is on the side. Like it's gonna be something. Yeah, it's gonna be all. I mean, is there any anything at all to end being a lefty quarterback where it's like, okay, well, maybe some teams don't would prefer not to have a left handed quarterback because it does look different for the wide receivers. Like, is that something that people do take into account? Because watching lefties on TV, I'm like, that's that person's a witch. It looks wrong. It looks weird. Yeah. Yeah. Is that you're saying is that like some people were down on Penex is the lead. I think the more the medicals, but the Falcons were super high on them. And I think if the Vikings just based on my intel, if the Vikings didn't get McCarthy, they were

very comfortable taking Penex at 11. Yeah. I think the, I think the Broncos, if Nick's, I think the Broncos had Nick's over Penex, but who knows if that was a smoke screen. I think if he was there as well. So like it was more the team than where he went. Like, you know, he goes eighth overall to another team. We're like, all right, it's a little earlier than we thought. But the fact that they just signed cousins, I was, how'd you guys think it? Where'd you, how'd you find it out? Like I, I had this whole like plea online and then I did it on good morning football on Thursday where I'm like, please don't tip picks. Like just, or

if you do, if you do tip picks, like if you're a viewer at home, like try to lay off like Twitter, cause there will be something cool and shocking and different that happens tonight. You don't want to find it out from a random tweet from like Jordan and shoulders, you know, shams Charney, cause what happens is, and I'll give you the behind the curtain, either a good reporting, someone from the team submits the card and there's someone in the room who can tweet a report, text a reporter and be like, dude, we're taking Penex. And then that reporter good for them. They can go public with it. I don't know if that's how the fan wants it, but that's fair. Or maybe more dubious is

wants it, but that's fair. Or maybe more dubious is at at the NFL teams, all 32 of them, when another team submits their pick, where it says the pick is in on the board, when it's like, all 32 teams get that before it's announced on television. So all it takes is one person who has a source at any of the teams to say, oh, Falcons just took panics and then they run to Twitter. Like, did you find out from a tweet or did you guys find out what you did? Yeah. So, so every year I have a ritual and I like Albert Brear. Uh, he's been on the show before. I think when he got hacked, right? We had him. Yeah. Um, good guy. Good reporter. Good guy. Good. Every year I mute him on draft night because he has to,

he tweets out every single pick and I have, and then I forget for and then I forget for about I usually like two or three Weeks that I haven't muted come back at OTA. I gotta I gotta bring Albert back in the timeline But yeah I found out from one of his tweets and I was sitting in our war room here at Barstool and my Jaw was just on the floor for like a minute. I couldn't believe it Yeah, it's not that he's a bad player And if you think that if you haven't graded as a top 10 worthy pick in terms of a quarterback, then yeah, I guess it could make sense and it might pan out from the

long term. But at the time I was, I couldn't believe it because it didn't make sense for about 10 different reasons. Yeah. And the salary cap hit on cousins is so much and now you're adding another quarterback to the fold. Dan, what about you? Same thing? I found out from, we were doing no spoilers in the in the in our war room. The only one I spoiled was I wanted to know the Bears ninth pick before anyone else so no one could spoil it. And I had the same reaction was like, what the fuck?

Like, and I get it. Kirk Cousins is in. He's on a two year deal. Everyone says four. It's two year deal. So when I get it, I understand like you don't want to be in a spot where you need a quarterback. You want to be, you know, you have your next guy already and Kirk cousins isn't young, but it's still was just shocking to me just because I think they could have traded and gotten, I think they could have gotten them somewhere later and gotten more draft capital. And like that's to me, the, the, the winners and losers of the drafts are the guys

who are able to maneuver it and get who they want but also get the most out of it. Like even the Bears like this story came out that I think was Ian Cunningham was holding Ryan Poles back because he wanted to trade up to get room Roma doomsday. So if he trades up to get Roma doomsday yeah we still have Roma doomsday but he just gives away picks next year. That is that would be a mistake. Instead they, they were patient. They got the player they wanted. So it's like those little maneuvers are the winning and losing drafts. And I think the Falcons could have maneuvered better. That's all. Yeah, that's fair. Um, the, you know, Payton was taken like great, the great pride

in that he got the, the jets to the Vikings to trade up with the jets. I think he was bragging about it. Like, you know, but that's that's the game of chicken. So the Vikings, through fear that the Broncos were going to jump them, made a trade with the jets to go up just one pick. And then they took care of it at 10 and just got McCarthy there when, you know, if they had stayed, he's probably there anyway, the jets, you know, and maybe Sean Payton wasn't gonna be able to pull that trade off. But you're right. And that's what these guys get such a high on too. That's the best stories of what if we had made that trade or what if we moved back or what if we stayed put and did this. Everyone thought the Jets were taking Brock Bowers and this year,

there were no leaks out of the building. They take Olu out of Penn State. Broncos take the quarterback and then talking to the Raiders guys, who knows if they would have taken Pennex if he was on the board, but they did not think in a million years Brock Bowers was going to be sitting there at 13. They just took Michael Mayer last year. In their case, they're like, he's one of the cleanest prospects in this entire draft. We'll find a way to use them. We need offense everywhere. So then Brock Bowers, who I can promise you in a million different mock drafts, not one of them had Brock Bowers going to the Raiders, but that's the beauty of the draft. Yeah, it is beautiful. Yeah. We're going to get back to more Peter Schrager, but before we do game time, game times, exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.

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Okay, let's get back to some more. Peter Schrager, who out there and talking to everyone, I know everyone loves their draft. Everyone got an A+. Yeah, everyone gets an A plus in their own room. But who do you think did the best maneuvering the board, getting, you know, filling holes and you walked away being like, I think that team is just way better than they were walking into Thursday night. There's one that's going to be pandering to one of you that I can talk about.

And there's another one that I think is there's no fans in that room right now. But I think Washington had a really, really good draft. Nine different picks, nine different positions, got a bunch of players who can play right away. And I think Jaden Daniels is the perfect mix of has a ton of experience. He's 23. And then he's still electric. And I think, I think what they did around him with the tight ends in it. And then of course, getting the offensive lineman Coleman, but I like, I love the fact that they got Johnny Newton in the second round, like Adam Peters for a first year GM. Like that was awesome. And then I think the Arizona Cardinals who had so many picks, they, they hit a home run out. They're not a sexy team. I couldn't tell you, you know,

five guys that contributed on their roster last year. But like you talk around the league, everyone's like, you know, Arizona compiled a bunch of picks and they got a bunch of guys who are going to play right away. And then I really, I know there was only five picks, but I thought Chicago with what they did. I mean, you get Caleb and a doon say, and then the kid from Duke, who everyone was really high on or Yale. Everyone was really really high on like that's a really good draft. That's three contributors that are going to play on a team that I think was a couple of games away from being a playoffs. Yeah, I mean the draft was the first round for me because with only five picks it definitely like were you hoping they would trade back from a doon say or were you I was I was cool

as whatever I'm in full trust Ryan pulls everything he does like I don't think he's been I think he he actually I'm working on a theory That he did the chase claypool deal on purpose so that everyone was like this guy's dumb and then every deal He's made since has been a genius. So he basically back Yeah He completely rope adoped the league by being like who would trade a second for chase claypool? What an idiot and then everything he's done since has been gold By the way, when you just said you were paying you're gonna pander to someone Max started shaking his head because he thought you were gonna talk about the Eagles I'm happy you

didn't yes he like literally it was one of those points himself he's talking about where he likes stood up and they're like no I'm actually talking about the guy behind you so he was yeah he's very excited about his draft I thought the commander's trade with the Eagles in the second round was genius. We fleeced the Eagles. They gave up so much to take Cooper to Gene when Kool-Aid McKinstry was still on the board. I love that pick. I love to see that happen in the division.

And then Adam Peters is, I think he's like the best player available, God. So if you had asked me going into the draft what the commander should be doing, I was saying like load up on the offensive line, get some big boys, have somebody protect Jaden. You got one lineman. We got one lineman in the third round, but what he did I thought a really good job of is he realizes that the roster needs a ton of work. So we're not like an offensive lineman away

from being a contender for the Super Bowl. So he just saw value getting great players, even if it was a position of strength, get good young players wherever you can I thought he did an awesome job of that But yeah The the the icing on the cake for me was just fleecing max in the second round is absolutely taking him to the wood Shoot on nine positions awesome max wanted it's cool. Did you yeah so bad devastated?

He wanted Cooper to jazz so bad after this trick pick I wanted Cooper to gene so I'm projecting on Max that I know that we didn't. Everyone did. I probably I think the easiest way to get engagement online or to get like likes or retweets. I have posted Cooper to Jean basketball highlights like 11 times, but like 11 different reasons why. And it's just I just want like new followers. So maybe this will go viral if I do it at 8 o'clock p.m.

I'll just put out Cooper to Jean basketball highlights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said today I posted that video and my tweet was, um, you know, cause I'm six three in person. I say whenever I, whenever an ex player or current player or coach sees me in person and says, Oh shit, you must have hooped in high school, which I did. This is what I always hope they envisioned me just like dunking in Iowa. Yeah. I like,

I like six three in person. You're just implying that you're like 5'10 on camera. 6'3 in person. Yeah. What about you? I feel like you're a big guy, too. Do people always say like, you're taller than I expected? No. I think people know I'm tall.

But yeah, I do. Like, there is. I mean, we make fun of Florio. Like, Florio is actually not that short. He's like 6'1. But he has short face. So like, when you. Yeah, he does.

Yeah, he's got short face. He's got a short vibe to him. Yeah. He's got short energy. So like when I could understand people being like, Oh shit, Mike Fleur, you're way taller than I thought. I, I always thought you, you wore your six three correctly. Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna start saying five nine in person. Yeah. That's a, that's a powerful line. Um, Shrakes, I got a question for you about your good friend, Sean McVeigh. He made his first first round selection ever as a head coach. Um, in that war room, was there any chance that they were going to trade? Was he like, no guys, I really don't want to do this. Like what if, what if, uh, what if we had to pick up their fifth year option? Like that would suck. He very much, very much was in the, the mode of trade debt. Like they

get such a kick out of the trade down And they think and it's not just him It's all them like they think it's the coolest thing that like they get guys on day three that all end up being like Pro bowlers nothing. I'll tell you they had I think I could say this he they had Three guys on their board I forget who the other defensive player was that they were interested in and the offensive player was Bowers And if it wasn't any of those three guys versus whoever that might've been Law 2, might've been Murphy, I forget who it was. It might've been Payton or Turner, Dallas Turner, but it was Bowers on offense and it was two defensive guys and they'd done a million simulations. And Sean was geeking out on this

the whole last 48 hours, like texting me like, ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all these scenarios and their whole front office is great. And they, they all like enjoy this. Like we do, they're almost like fans, um, in a lot of ways. And Bowers would have been the one, like if they had moved up, it was going to be, it, but they didn't, they just were so happy. And then verse fell to them. And then they get versus teammate, which was one of the cooler viral videos,

which I'm sure there needs to be like a behind the scenes story on how the hell they made that happen, that Vers was somehow there to get on the Zoom call with Fisk. It was cool. It was great. Yeah, I love all those videos. Yeah, I watch them. I don't know why.

Doesn't matter what team it is, what player it is, I always like to hear it. Isn't it funny that some of them don't land? Like it's just a player being like, hey coach, coach being like, all right, and then like the team still posts it out. Yeah. Yeah. The owners on the watch, like congratulations we're bringing in. Yes sir. Thank you sir. Yeah. Yeah. The bears posted the one with Caleb Williams and it was kind of awkward because he had known he was going

to be a bear for he was wearing a shirt underneath his suit that said Chicago on it. So it's like Ryan Paul is talking to him and kill. He was like, okay, sounds good. Like we've all is a formality. He's like, we don't have to release that. Like it looked like he wasn't enthused, but he clearly had been enthused for the last two months. He's like, we've got to wait till there's five minutes left. Yeah, right. All right. Yeah. I got a question. Good. I got a question for you though about, about the logistics of the broadcast and the draft itself Why is it that we have to wait for the full allotted amount of time?

For the first overall pick to be announced in any round why can't question why can't good else say like I'm opening up the draft He gets booed and he's like no, here's a little kid that's on stage with me. Don't boo me I've got this kid next to me I declared the draft open and then boom immediately immediately bears hand in their pick and Gadel says, okay, the bears have taken Caleb. Like they've had what? Four months? They've had four months to do this? Totally. I'm with you. I think it's a TV show in a lot of ways and they want to build some sort of suspense. And so they go that way. I mean, look, I laughed last year. I was in Kansas City and I'm doing the draft and we're sitting there and with a straight face, they're singing

national anthem. There was a, uh, you know, fly over of the, you know, what are they called? The blue angels or whatever they fly out. Yeah. And no, no one's, and I'm like, they're handing names in on a card and announcing them later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. National anthem. Like, yeah, This is amazing. So I think it's all part of the show. But this year Goodell had what he had. He had kids in the flag football but he also had the he had Eminem. He had Jared golf hit him on raw. Then he finally gets back and they still boot him. Yeah. Yeah. They had the A10 Warthogs buzzing the tower going up top is like the most American thing ever for the NFL draft. Yeah. For some reason, it's the best. And then the fans that are all dressed up, like in the front rows, when the big chains faces painted and then they hear a guy in the second round and it takes them like my favorite

moment is like when they don't immediately know who it is. Yeah. And they're like, Oh yeah. Yeah. I like that guy. Yeah. Yeah. The best, the jets, the jets took Olu and Kyle Brandt was in the pit, like do it all the other reason we were laughing. He asked me, he's like, what do you think the reaction was when they took an offensive tackle over a tight end? I'm like, I'll tell you exactly. I'm like, first of all, where's the fan from? He's like Long Island. I'm like, perfect. Here's the reaction. The initial thing is surrender Cobra. They passed on Bowers and then one second break and then smart pick and smart pick. Yeah. You build, got to protect

Roger inside out. Yeah. Right. It got to protect Roger. He's inside out. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's not sexy. So they'll become bill Parcells in that moment. Um, all right. So I know everyone loves her draft. Was there anyone that you were like, that didn't really make sense or a draft? You're like, Hey, they probably missed on. They didn't maybe fill all the holes they had going into the draft. I have so many thoughts. Like it's hard because I truly am telling you that that teams have different, like I had a team tell me that that lot to just because of the medical stuff, like wasn't a first day pick for them. Like, and so then if the Colts take them 15, the Colts are doing flips that they got their

number one defensive player in the draft. The pastor sure they never thought would be there at 15, but another team didn't even have him at all, like viewed that way because of other reasons, you know, right? So the one team that like, just because of the whole off season being so curious has been the Cowboys where Jerry says all in and then Guyton has not played a ton is not like this polished player. They traded back. They get more draft capital and they end up picking in offensive linemen who sure might play, but Rico Dowdell is their number one running back right now. They didn't sign any real free agents and they've got Dak and CD Lam's contract looming.

To me, the Cowboys, when you say you're all in, and I know we shouldn't make too much out of an owner saying whatever, but there there's a thousand people working for that team. They're like, okay, well he said that, but we're doing the best. What does that mean? If you're, if you're trading back and you're drafting Tyler Guy and who might end up being great, but all in how for 20, 24, all in for what? You know, all in my ass, you're saying all in my ass. You're doing the skip Bayless. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, there's a comma though, right? Yeah, there's a comma. There's a comma It was a car. So yeah, what about I guess it's it might be tough for you to say which team you think had the worst Draft I know you're you're close with a lot of front offices a lot of coaches

But it's more that I find it I find it annoying when it's like draft grades and no one's brave enough to give anything lower than a B minus and no one's bold enough to give anything lower than a B minus and no one's bold enough to give anything higher than an a minus so like to me, you know who had a bad draft there We'll look back in a couple years. We'll know who had good drafts of bad dress. I looked at Mel's he gave like 15 B's Yes Raven's got an a yeah What would you say is the team that like other that you've heard from other teams around the league where they're like, I don't understand what this team was doing. I'll tell you a team that and I and it was the Eagles last year that I got a lot of heat for in Philly because I said on the draft, I'm on the broadcast day three and I love it. It's my favorite day. And I said, a few teams around the league now. All right, slow down everyone on TV, just crowning the Eagles because they did the Jalen Carter, the Nolan Smith, they traded for Deandre Swift. And it was like, literally it was a three

hour, oh my God, the Eagles, they went to the Superbowl last year and they could do no wrong. And I think other teams are like, guys, there's 31 other teams on the broadcast. Why don't you talk about someone else? I'm like, all right, fair. The team this year that I got from a couple teams that they were like, okay, some curious picks, but maybe they know better than we do. And one of the lines was, yeah, guys on NFL network. Sure. Do you seem to be excited to crown them was the Detroit lions this year. Um, they traded a future third round pick for an offensive lineman, um,

at a British Columbia that they took on day three who might be great, might not be great, whatever. But that's one of those where you're kind of feeling like, what's a heat check? You're kind of feeling yourself a little bit. Their draft last year was so good when they got Laporta and Gibbs and branch and even Jack Campbell, who might not have had the best season, but when you draft an inside linebacker at 18th overall, that's you telling the rest of the league, like, we don't really care about how you rank your board, we do our thing. They did that and then they traded up again in the fourth round and they took a player that played safety and running back at a Utah and it's kind of a hybrid,

but like they traded up. Like that's the kind of stuff when you're, you're like, all right, you know what, we're just going to go for it. We're going to do it our way. And you know how the lions are such like a vibe right now and they're all wearing the day and Campbell's. That's one of those where the lions are feeling themselves a little bit. They're like, we're right there. We're going to take some bold picks and we're going to make some bold moves in the rest of the league. They can bitch and wine and moan and make their comments. But like we believe what we've built in this building, cause we've done it. We've built it from the ground up. So yeah, they deserve a heat check. Yeah. They were, they were feeling

themselves this draft quite a bit. Yeah. So important question. How is good Dell doing? I know he had his back blown out a couple months ago, right? And he, he got hugged pretty hard up on stage. Did he tell, well, like, was there a word that went out to some of the guys that were in the green room? Like, don't hug me. My backup loan out. I think he had back, he had an operation done, I think. And then Mims, the big kid, or was it Latham? It was Latham from the Titans just came right in and jacked him up. And I saw no pain when seeing he was walking around night too. So I think he's fine. But you have to wonder if the kids knew that in that moment they're like, you know what? Screw it. I've been watching this on TV for 20 years.

I'm hoisting that guy up. Like I'm going for it. I'm doing it anyway. He can deal with it. Um, but yeah, I think he's okay. Yeah. Um, all right. I have a couple last questions. Uh, the first one is the Spencer rattler, uh, story. That was crazy that teams were like, yeah, we didn't like how he came across as a high schooler in a Netflix show, or I don't even think, it might've been just a YouTube show. That's nuts. Like, everyone's a shithead when they're 17 years old.

Like, teams were actually judging him that way and being like, everything he's done since. Were you aware of this show before yeah Yeah, we knew about this show. Yeah, Spencer rattler like when he when he got to college He was very hyped up at Oklahoma because he was the guy that everyone hated from QB one Yeah, he was kind of the heel he he came across like in that show definitely like he had a sense of entitlement But again, he's a high school kid That has been like his life has been laser focused.

Ian's report because we tossed him because okay, so first of all, he's a day three quarterback. I've said this before, like I don't want to ever criticize a kid or anything, but when you watch the draft on NFL Network and on ESPN, if there's anything I want to say, it's every player when they're taken, a lot of times it's like, oh, this kid's amazing. Everything's an all-American. Like there's no, so Spencer Rattler, when all the six quarterbacks go, we're like, who's the next quarterback? And all of a sudden it becomes the focal point. And it's like, could he go early second?

Is he going to, he was a day three quarterback in September. He was a day three quarterback in October. He was a day three quarterback in February and his day three quarterback in March, probably. And day three quarterback in February, and he's a day three quarterback in March probably. And that's nothing against him, but when you're now the focal point, because you're the last great quarterback, the last quarterback everyone knows, you're gonna go there.

So we're talking about Spencer Rattler nonstop on the broadcast, and it's actually becoming good theater because now it goes from fourth round to now early fifth round, and Ian comes into the broadcast and he's had a whole report on Rattler and at the end of it he said what he said where he's like you know there hasn't been any conversations that I've had or that show on Rattler where that show doesn't come up and I'm not doubting Ian's report. Charles Davis then comes on and is like yeah but the last two years since

he got to South Carolina he's's matured. And that's when that part doesn't come out. Ian's report comes out and like, what's the term? Strongman? I don't even know what it is. Literally any person who's met Spencer Rattler in our sports media world, came like a rise to arms in defense of Spencer Rattler. And I'm like, all right, see this coming. I'll tell you honestly, I didn't do a ton of of work on Spencer rattler. I've heard things about his game and all that stuff, but I was vaguely aware of the, I I'll just say it's, I didn't do enough stuff. Cause I do the first round mock drive. I didn't do enough on him to give you a personal take on whether or not that conversation piece came up. But I would trust Ian that if that showed up, it was probably six in the conversation of

here's what it's throwing motion. Here's about his leadership. Here's about it. And then I did you see the reality show? I'm sure it did come up. It also, it also, as we get those stories on day three, where it's like a quarterback goes and it's almost like you need some nugget to remind everyone the draft still going on. They're like, Oh yeah, Spencer Rattler just got drafted. And I was like, I looked at it like, Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. We are in the fifth round right now. Fifth round. Yeah. There's a lot of that. I mean, like we love it on our, you know, I'm doing rounds four or five, six, seven yesterday. And I'll tell you, like when those international guys get taken, when that kid from the lions goes, when a punter or kicker gets taken,

it's like a jolt of enthusiasm. Yeah, I know. Something different. Right. Oh, right. They took the Iowa punter. Let's go. I mean that was, that might've been a heat check for Ryan polls too, where he's like the Australian guy, the pick and he's wearing a Jack Seaborn jersey. This guy's great. You take a punter when you're a, like it's the last piece for Superbowl Ross. I mean, you might be best player available. The Iowa punter. It's like that dude. He's got a lot of experience. There were, there were like arguments, you know, like I actually kind of liked the pictures because people were like, once this draft is not that deep because of NIL and a lot of guys staying and not, you know, underclassmen, everything.

He's like, he was a really fucking good punter and the bears puncher sucked last year. Yeah. A question for you is Caleb Williams having a heat check? Like he did this thing where he's like the bears. Yeah. Like he does. He does the hand claw hand claw. Yeah. Which bare man's been doing for a long time. Um, I, yeah, he's got a, he's got, he's doing a little heat check. Listen, I, people keep asking me, they're like, do you think he's too eccentric or goofy? It's like, if he's good, none of it will matter. It's it's basically comes in cause it's after after like if he's not good, people will blame the nails. Yeah. They'll say that like, oh, he's too crazy. He's too unique. And if he's good, no one will give a fuck

because no one in that locker room will care anything if he can ball, which I think he can. If he's good, it'll actually be the opposite. People will be like, this guy is so funny. Yeah. I also think he is. He is truly just the first like true Gen Z quarterback that we have. Like I think there'll be more Caleb Williams coming up where it's like kids that are of this age that were born on the internet that are like unique personalities. I just think it will happen more. I think, I think he's a, a tremendous addition to the league. And I'm not saying in any, like in like any, not in a, oh, he's going to say

ridiculous. I think, I think he's a real personality and he's unique. Like we haven't had this before and he did the thing with the bears. Then that whole controversy about the Pablo Tory podcast where the gentleman, I think Fleming's his name came on and it was like a GM compared him to Prince playing quarterback and everyone was outraged. There's a compliment. Yeah. I'm like, I actually, 100% see a GM actually saying that because it is some of the things that he is different. It's refreshing to me. So then he also said like, I was just reading the transcript, but he's like, I'm coming

for 12. Like I love it. It's like 12 is Brady. It's like, all right. Yeah. Why not? And the Prince thing was so funny because it was so like front office GM guy where like he's like, Oh, Prince is a weirdo. It's like,

if he's calling Bruce Springsteen, then then we're talking. It's like Prince is one of the greatest musicians of all time. If he's, if he has a career that is comparable to Prince in the NFL, he will win like multiple super bowls. Jeff Lynn of quarterbacks. Deep cut. Yeah. So yeah, I'm so excited. I think he's gonna be awesome. I think he's a really good player.

All the other stuff doesn't, I'm just gonna defend him. I'm ready to defend him on every turn. Yeah, I'm excited for it. The Prince thing is a head scratcher because anybody that's ever listened to Prince is like, well, Prince is, Prince rocks. Yeah, Prince is the best. Prince rocks.

He's looking at Prince as the dad of a young kid that's starting listened to Prince is like, well, Prince is Prince rocks. Yeah, Prince. Prince rocks. He's looking at Prince is like the dad of a young kid that's starting to listen to music and to listen. The music confuses him. Yeah. It's like, I don't I don't know about this Prince nonsense. Yeah. Yeah, like the parents and like the Beastie Boys, like, you know, like the right to party video like, yeah, like Prince. So get that out of here. Yeah. Shut that loud music at the combine.

I spoke to him for a while and I'm friendly with Kingsbury and Kingsbury is like, no, he's a great dude. He's like, you'll love him. Like he's, he's cool. So talking to him and he showed up Friday night at the combine and quarterbacks don't do anything till Saturday. And he'd already said he's not doing anything. And everyone was up in arms over it. Showed up Friday night and he's wearing his big sweatshirt where it says like quarterback 11, whatever it was. And I go up and I sidle up next to him. We're talking for a while. And I'm like, Oh, you know, I'm friendly with Lincoln Riley, friendly with cliff, like that

are great to meet you. All this stuff, do my usual spiel. And I'm like, why are you here? He's like, Oh, you know, I forgot the kid's name. I'm sure he was drafted. He's like, this corner is competing tonight. I just, I wanted to see him do his 40 and do all this stuff. I've never seen a quarterback show up on Friday night of the combine to watch a teammate workout. It's the first time I've ever seen it and I don't think it's him acting. He wasn't doing it for camera. So I'm like, all right. And then I've spoken to a lot of the Bears guys about him and he, the word it's like, he moves, I forget the term they said, like he moves quietly. Like he's got this great presence, but he's not loud. He's not, he's just like, he moves. He's just cool.

He's, he's, he's assured with who he is. Yeah. You guys feel the cops super comfortable and just like so comfortable in his own skin. So you take that and like teammates at you and Kingsbury will tell you like teammates at USC love the kid. Yeah, love them like and that's from top to bottom So that's all I need. Yeah, Prince or not. Yeah So Pete you've done a great job picking the Super Bowl with the last five years or is it four years three years three years Oh, no Every week smaller they caught me I came on your podcast at five years the truth the matter is I've had the matchup in

The matchup or the right winner the last five years, but we went back and checked the tape and it's been, I had the Chiefs beating the Buccaneers in that COVID one, which kills me. And then there was another one where I had the other team winning, but I've had Rams, Chiefs, Chiefs the last three years. Let's just go with that. That's pretty impressive. I want to give you a chance to spread your wings a little bit. Give me a third round pick that was taken in the draft that you think is going to be

the guy next year where we're like, ah, how do they like the puka Nakua? Who's the, who's the puka Nakua of this year's draft? Could be any position. You know who? Okay. So that's a, the running back on the dolphins, who they traded up to get in the fourth round, Jalen Wright at a Tennessee. Okay. I don't know how it works in fantasy football because they have a Chan and they

have most are and they have some in awkward man. They have all these guys, this Jalen Wright averaged eight yards of carry at Tennessee is as fast as they come and is like, we're supposed to go on day two and was supposed to go early day three. They trade up to get them. And if I know Mike McDaniel, which I think I know fairly well,

like that's his pick written all over it. They traded up to get them. Again, depth chart be damned. There will be plays where Jalen Wright, the running back from the Dolphins, like has an 80 yard scamper, does something crazy. And the way they do their offense, like all those running backs will touch the ball. So jail and right fourth round pick Dolphins. That's my diamond.

All right. Uh, I got one last question. Uh, it's a rollback question. R H O B C K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com. Uh, you knew I had to ask this. You know I have to ask this. Your boy David Tepper. Come on. I thought of you right away. Come on. I thought of you right away. Going into, going into, listen, I've watched the tape many, many times. I do not think

it was an aggressive move, but- Ball busting. Even still, pulling the hat off another man's head that that could be seen as an aggression. Just going in there though, uh, in being bothered by that. Well, I mean, you are the number one David Tepper, uh, defender. What's going on? What's going on again? Beats marches to the beat of his own charm goes goes in there, sees a sign that says, stay out of the draft room. The night before he was feeling good,

they traded back into the first round. They got Xavier LeGette, who by the way, has one of the best press conferences. Yeah, yeah, he's awesome. Was feeling himself, but couldn't resist. Saw that sign, had to go in and just, he's a man of the community down there. He just wanted to make sure.

Oh, that's what it was. You want he's a scream small business he screams carolina native that's what he screams yeah yeah it was it was it was definitely yeah i think it was weird i think it was it was weird it was probably it was probably playful um a lot more playful than the drink situation but yeah look people are up in arms over it i think he likes it i think he likes it i think it's like he's just playing around he's more playful than the drink situation. But yeah, look, people are up in arms over it. I think he likes it. I think he likes it. I think it's like he's just playing around.

He's having fun. It's his team. And again, we'll never be pushed around and we'll never be a wilting flower in the corner of the room. He's going to have his voice heard. Yeah, it was a weird move. But I think every other restaurant in the Charlotte

area should just put out signs like that and just hope that he stops it. Yeah, just be be it should be his thing where he David Tepper if he sees a sign Disparaging him will come in and get into an argument with you in a world in a world of like protest on college campuses and like real-life That's such a very niche Specific thing to put on a sign in front of your restaurant like it is so specific I'm like, I so appreciate that. Like keep the owner out of the draft room. I'm like, God, you know, of all the causes. Yeah, let's go. We got to do. Yeah. We'll put a sign on. We'll post a tweet on

part of my take David temper. You won't come on this podcast. You won't. We wear hats all the time. Yeah. If you take it, take it. If you took my hat off, it would have gone down different. Oh, I would have fucking, I would have been, I would have been like cam Newton when he's getting jumped and that hat doesn't go anywhere. Yeah. Um, all right. Well, Shraggs, thank you as always. You're the best. Uh, get some sleep and uh, we'll talk to you later on this summer when we get football coming back. You guys are the best. I so appreciate the invite and the bears, the Commanders, the Patriots, and the Eagles all got better this weekend. Yeah, yeah. Love it. Love it. Thank you for saying that. I appreciate it.

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talking a lot about his career. Uh, Crusoe's here for another three days before he goes back to Texas for the summer. And I was like, well, he knows basketball. Let's talk some basketball. Let's talk more current, what's going on in the playoff series. Like I'm down. Also might have been because we have a golf simulator. And Tuesday he texted me, he was just like, hey, can I come hit balls on a random day?

I was like, yes. We're going to get you a key card. So first question, tough question. You just played 18 with Hank. Did you win? Yeah, I did. I did win. How, we're gonna get you a key card. So first question tough question. You just played 18 with Hank Did you win? Yeah, I did I did win how by how many strokes? I don't know what the final difference was I did finish one under a birdie 18. Oh Did you finish even? Hank we can't hear you. You only you only lost by one Hank. Yeah at a five to that

Six you lost by six one five. What's okay. You were 15 over. Yeah, and he five to that. Six. You lost by six? One five. Oh, you were fifteen over. And he was one under? Yeah. Oh no. It's interesting because you've played what, thirty-six holes today? I have, yeah. I was fresh. That's probably the excuse. Okay.

So Hank, if you took your best eighteen holes that you played today, would you have beat them? No. Wow. That's pretty impressive I had a good day. I do have an important question I'm glad that you're in the studio today because we need to get to the bottom of something I figured you might have some insight into it Who's the guy that the Lakers have on staff that steals all the opponent's shoes when they come to town and let's not have them? Is that do you know who did that? Is there one guy where you're like? Yeah, that must be a new hire

Yeah, they must they must they must have serviced somebody out once I left and used used all that money They didn't give me to smart hire somebody. I loved it I love coach Malone after the game be like I'm not an excuses guy But you can point to the fact that we were wearing flip-flops in our shoot around would that actually fuck you up? I Mean to be honest If you if you have a routine it might you know like if you're a big if somebody's superstitious and you got to get you like, you got to have your routine and got to do this. But like, there's been games where I like, I don't even shoot

before the game. Like I'll go out and shoot like five free throws, 10 free throws, just because I'm tired and like need to save my energy for the game. And I go out and play great. And then there's some nights I do that and I don't play good. So like if you're not a big excuses guy, no, but yeah, what are you gonna say? Yeah lose your first game You're probably gonna I feel like there's some guys that have such a pattern a routine that they get into Where something like that might mess with their head a little bit or at least shake their confidence Like if you if you do everything on game day the exact same way and then something that small Can like mix you up a little bit. Maybe you got there. You're not like you're mentally weak

But yeah, you're mentally weak and same contract. You're mentally weak then. But yeah, you're mentally weak. And also you probably- Or you just care too much. Yeah. Yeah. A real warrior like me myself, I don't think it would impact my shooting at all. No.

You'd probably do better. I'd go from five to eight percent. All your makes and warmups, you'd save them for the game. Exactly. It'd be great. It'd be bad. All right, so let's start with that series because the Lakers did win a game, which was huge.

First time in 11 games, I want to say. I was a little nervous that if they got swept, what the energy would be like when I came in here today. Yeah. Well, I mean, we have had this... It's rare that this podcast is on the right side of history when it comes to playoffs or whatever. We predict things poorly most of the time. We have been dead on with this series

where it's every game is the same, the Nuggets go down and then they come back and they win and they snatch the Lakers. So, and AD and LeBron play like great games and no one else shows up. So what is it about that matchup that gives the Lakers so much like trouble? Well, the Denver is just built so perfect around Joker, right? Like they got length, athleticism, shooting, and then like Joker, man, he, you saw the one pass where he was going over his head. That pass, it was, it was, the basketball, you know, Piers and me got so excited when I saw that,

because it's just like, you would love to play with a guy like that. You know, if you just get to the right spot, you're gonna get the ball, and like they got, I mean, they got shooting all around him. Jamal Murray's the perfect compliment to him playing off of him and like the pinch post getting layups and then Defensively they they're just you know They're locked in together like they might not have the best individual defenders like KCP is a really good defender Aaron Gordon's a really good defender, but outside of that the team just has team defense good team defense

Yeah, and the chemistry that I was phenomenal. So you'll catch like, it does feel like he's playing the game on easy mode. Like that pass specifically watching that it's, it's a joke. Like watching him be able to do that. And he's almost toying with them when you're going up against a guy like that. Can you tell when a guy's like feeling it to the level of like, it's just everything is easier for him than anyone else on the court. Yeah, those that's those are the nights where you hope that you're not playing and you hope that you're watching. Yeah, you're lucky you're watching on TV because when you're playing man, that's like a guy

of that caliber who already doesn't really care, you know, and then when he tries, it's like, all right, what are we going to do tonight? Because the whole thing with him is make him score, make him score. And it's like, well, you know, if he gets 12 assists and 15 rebounds and then make him score now, all of a sudden he's got 20 something points. It's like that's, it's asking a lot for the other guys to not get their numbers and try to try to win a game. Yeah.

It just seems like every, he doesn't think when he's out there, he just moves and he just knows. Yeah, exactly. Like he knows ahead of time, like, okay, my, my instinct is to do this. So I'm just going gonna go with my instinct and he ends up being Ends up becoming like a really smart basketball player the less he has to think about it Which is crazy to watch that one play where the ball goes over his head He goes from like ducking because he thinks the ball might hit him in his head. Oh shit. Here's the ball and then just

Second that guy's open. I know he's there. Yeah, it's it like a balloon like Was kind of like a fake out you think so? Yeah, I know he's there. Yeah. It's it like a balloon like you would like to talk was kind of like a fake out. You think so? Yeah. I think he's playing on that easy mode. If everything you do the ball was coming. Yeah. But he's on such an easy mode that even the mistakes I'm like, oh, he did that on purpose. Yeah. I mean he he just makes it. That's part of like the like he's got the poker face, right? Right. He looks like he doesn't care. We know that he doesn't kind of care. He obviously wants to win but he's thinking about his horses back home the whole time. Yeah, dude. When a player doesn't have any stress and they're really good, it's going

to be a long night. The Lakers have been talking about some of the adjustments that they've made. The nuggets were finally asked some questions like what adjustments are you going to make? Yoker was like, you know, I'm you know I'm not gonna tell you like what I even share that with you but when you're when you're making adjustments in the middle of a series what's that like in terms of like your coach communicating what you're gonna do differently to you guys? Is there a text that gets sent out like when he's watching film at 2 a.m. that morning just trying to get over that loss or is it just okay come in and then get into the office and then here's what we

Cooked up overnight. Yeah, it'll be more like that the second one. It'll be it'll be more a little Direct and thought out rather than just like a text message. Hey next game We're gonna double them in the post or something like that Like they'll go back and watch the film and either and most of the time it's not even schemes It's like more matchups, right or like minutes like they'll try and they'll try and make sure that you know They bring a certain player in whenever the other guy's best players in or the team goes small. They might throw two bigs out to try and do something like that. But yeah, a lot of that is, is either overnight or over the course of the day. And a lot of times

to the first couple of games, coaches don't want to make too many adjustments, right? Like you want to, you want to play it out because this is the plan to go with. Then after maybe game two, you're like, all right, we got to switch some stuff up. Yeah. What about... The Heat, I know they're down 2-1 now. Hank, the Heat actually have already accomplished a great thing this playoffs. They've retired cocky Hank. He's not going to be cocky for the rest of the playoffs. But it feels like every year, Spoh does something to get the most out of this team. What is it, like when

you're playing the Heat, do you have in the back of your mind, like, Spoh's going to do something that I probably haven't seen or they're going to throw something at us that we haven't seen on tape? Maybe you could just explain, maybe it's just a dumb question, how do you quantify a coach like Spoh and what he's able to get out of this Heat team? Yeah, a lot of it I think is nurturing and cultivating, getting the best out of the players. A lot of times with him, he's so intense and he's such a competitor. When that's the lead dog between him and then Jimmy obviously, and Jimmy's not playing, but he's still the voice and he's around.

Like it's hard not to raise your level to that. And you know, a lot of times people talk about like their culture, like that's a big buzzword for them and for you know, Miami Heat in general. Like the people that they draft and bring into their organization all fit the mold of like, alright, like dog mentality, like we're going to play hard. We might have a couple deficiencies, we'll work on that, we can get through that, but for the most part I know what I'm going to bring night in night out. And then yeah, he does a good job of scheming different things. Against us they put Bam on Demar the whole game and he was basically playing a guard

spot on the outside. And it just kind of stalled us out a little bit. But like you see in the Boston series, like there's just a lot of isolation. It's hard to scheme against that when they have so many different guys. Right. Go get a bucket or create for the other guys. Right. Yeah. I mean, I, that, yeah, I didn't want to bring up the end of the bowl season, but that was like bam going on to Mars. Like you don't think that's going to happen because BAMs usually, you know, relied on the the first game this year we didn't play with Jimmy. So like it was the first time. We kind of predicted like we figured they were going to do that. You know maybe

him or Caleb. But once we get into the you know you're in the heat of the battle like there's it's a one game series. Right. Then the playoffs where you're going seven games were like all right coach going to watch the film and we'll come back next game and do something different. Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely be a bad coach. I would watch the film and we'll come back next game and do something different. Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely be a bad coach. I would, I would watch the film and I would be all night. I'd just be like firing texts. Play harder. They're definitely asleep. Yeah. Like, Hey, here's what we're going to do. And then when they got in the next day, be like, remember, look at that Texas. Since you, that's our adjustment. I think I would just every start every simple, you know, yeah. Yeah. I don't rethink this. That's what I

would say. Every single practice or before before every game like it's a make or miss league so fucking make your shot yeah I say that I say that throughout the year I make tonight we didn't make shit yeah I would say you guys you have to want it more than they do that was that was always my favorite thing I love it and in reality I think there might be some truth to that in the the New York Philadelphia series where it looks like New York does want it more. They just play with like a, I mean, they play like that all year though. You know, like it's not, it's nothing new.

Yeah, it's tibs. But, and then same thing, like, you know, Hartenstein plays like that regardless. Josh Hart plays like that regardless. Steven Chinzo, OG, like they all fit that mold of how they want to play. And they did a good job of bringing players in to fit that. And Jaylen Brunson is just on a, he's been on a tear all year, but especially postseason. There's not a great matchup for him in the league, but for sure, I mean, Philly hasn't found one yet that they found that can slow him down at all.

Yeah. And it feels like, and you tell me, what happens when a team out rebounds another team like that so much? Like the offensive glass, you can even say for the Bucs Pacers series too, where it feels like the Pacers are just, they want it more on the glass. What is the fix to that? Is it like, do you guys actually have to go into the, you know, the day off and be like, hey, you got a box out, like this is team rebounding or how do you fix it? It's crazy. Like the thing, like the simplest, the simplest parts of basketball

games. Right. You forget that like that's the stuff that's important. Yeah. That's like one of why Minnesota is such a good defensive team. They got, you know, seven, seven something six 11 Jalen McDaniel six nine, you know, Naz read six 10 coming off the bench. Like Anthony Edwards is six six. Like they rebound the ball when they get stops like you don't get second chances Impossible scoring them if you don't shoot well, right? Yeah, that's one of the things too, though It's like you got a box out to get the ball If you if they keep getting shots eventually they're gonna make them like the arrows and it's in the playoffs so they care So they're gonna try really hard

Like if you don't get the rebounds you're not gonna games. And it's one of those things where it's like your habits come to light. If you haven't done it all year, you're not going to start doing it when it's time to win. It's tough to turn it on. How often during the season is boxing out talked about? I mean, we talked about it. We were a small team, so we had to talk about it because if we just tried to jump with people, we would get killed on the glass but for us I mean that's that's a pretty normal thing and that's hard thing you know once you get to like professional sports if you're serious about winning and the coach talks about that stuff you know

like not turning the ball over setting good screens not fouling rebounding like boxing out like those are the things like you'll watch as the teams advance in the playoffs like they do all that little shit that wins basketball games. Yeah. At the end of the day, you can make as many shots and do all that, but you're going to have to get some stops. You're going to have to do the stuff that wins games. Yeah.

All right. Dumb question. And I've noticed this, this happens a lot in the NBA these days where, and maybe this is you tell me this is just defensive philosophy. We're doing it no matter what, but switching everything. When a team switches everything, you'll sometimes see the other team, they won't even set real screens. They'll just kind of flash and then you'll get a switch. That's crazy to me. Even I was saying it about the Jamal Murray game winner. No one really came and set a pick on LeBron, but they switched

it and Anthony Davis is an incredible defender, so it's not a bad switch. But what is that? Like, I feel like you're giving something up when you just immediately concede the switch, even without making the other team set that pick. Yeah. Part of that is personnel based. Like obviously that one with AD, like you feel pretty confident in that late game and they're probably like, sometimes teams have switching partners. Oh It's hot. I like that real team camaraderie. Yeah Who's your switching partner? I mean any guard but like most of the time I do a good job of trying to keep them fight Through it. Yeah, I don't want to let this I don't want to let this guy try to go against my teammate

Like that's my job. I'm right first team all defense like yeah go guard this guy But that was kinda, when teams started going small and started switching everything, the slip screens and the go screens became a big deal. Like just trying to cause confusion basically. Right. Just standing there for a second and going to the red. And I get this guy to open up his hips and then that guy gets the hell out of the way and I can go downhill and create the advantage where it used to be, all right, big guy comes set the screen. Now I'll come downhill and create the advantage where it used to be a big guy comes set the screen now I'll come off and get downhill at the other big

But teams are going small trying to get more shooting space out the floor and when you do that like Indiana That's that's their offense like they play fast and they just set they they're one of their main plays Is action called pistol action where it's just a guard to guard step up on the sideline action called pistol action where it's just a guard to guard step up on the sideline. Right. Setting a flat screen to the baseline and that guy majority of the time slips out and Tyrese Halliburton or TJ McConnell just dribbles as fast as they can gets to the baseline. It's, it's a really hard action to guard because they're playing so fast. Right. Right. What, what, what do you do? Like what are the rules in when you're playing against a team that's just running a pick and roll over and over and it's a lob to the like

even that Mavericks the Mavericks Clippers game James Harden was just on fire with his floater and it felt like The Mavs and it might have been because Lucas fifth foul But it also felt like Jason Kidd might have had different personnel in there might have been better But like what are the rules when you're getting just beat to death? With a pick and roll whether it be floaters or lobs at the rim and you can't stop it. Yeah, depending on what the coverage is for the teams,

that might be what they're willing to give up. Obviously we're not in Dallas's meetings, we don't know what they're doing, but James Harden is one of the few guys on their team that can create for other guys. Anytime that they have a good game this year, he's got eight, nine, 10 double digit assists. So like for me, that might be something where I'm thinking,

all right, they're gonna live with him taking floaters contested and they just didn't do a good enough job contesting the shots. You know, and it's one of those things where, you know, coach is gonna go watch and see like, all right, do we think he can do that again? Yes, we need to change something up.

If not, you know, you kind of live with it. Yeah, man. It's a great answer because it's, it's like he went 12 for 17 and it's like, okay, yeah, maybe that's exactly what they wanted to do. They didn't give, you know, they didn't give Zubok Plumlee, you know, dunks in right corner threes whenever you bring the low guy, low guy over. So that might be something they're working on. They also could have just fucked up the coverage. Right. The big guy was supposed to be there and they kept messing it up. And that's the something where in the playoffs you can't have happen. So yeah. And I do think Luca having the fifth foul, like he was very passive once he got

his fifth, not that he's like an elite defender, but he was very much like he was going to let whatever happened. Like I'm just going to stay in the game and we'll try to find enough stops. Right. In a game like that, when you get up big, like huge in the first two quarters, is it more of a mentality in the playoffs of like, let's try to keep our foot on the gas? Or is it, let's play smart? Cause I feel like every team,

if you give up a big comeback, you're like, oh, we should have kept our foot on the gas. But I feel like sometimes it is smarter, like to start slowing things down and to not like, you know to play like possession baseball where it's like We're not going to give you enough possessions to come back I think it's you gotta play you still got to play aggressive, you know, whether that is, you know playing fast and Taking the opportunities in transition but also being smart and like realizing when you have to come back out play against a set defense but I mean, if you punt too many times,

and like we say punt, like in football, you give possession back. So if you come down, don't do anything, late clock, there's six seconds, now you go isolation, you take step back middies or step back threes. Now you're giving them defensive rebounds, like that's a hard way to live,

to try and make all those shots. So for me, I like just staying aggressive, foot on the gas and going the whole game because at a certain point, you know, it's it's there's not enough possessions they're going to have to start taking more threes. They're going to have to try and switch up defense, maybe trap something and now you're getting open shots. Like for me, it's it's stay aggressive because if you let off the gas at all and then they get momentum like Dallas did. Right. You know, Clippers were lucky to hang on to that game because Dallas had the foul trouble,

I think that the two main guys kind of had to pull the reins back a little defensively. Yeah. All right. I want to talk about three teams that are kind of under the, not under the radar, but they don't get talked about a lot because they're not the Lakers or the Celtics or the Knicks or the Sixers, but the Thunder, the Magic and the Wolves. They're three of the, I think four best defensive teams in the NBA and you saw it with the Magic. That was insane what they did to the Cavs. The Cavs scored 18 total points in a 20 minute stretch in the second half. What is it about those teams that they're doing so much better than everyone else defensively?

Because I love personally when we get to the playoffs, it's like defense still matters and you get to actually watch teams like, oh, we can shut you down and get you out of everything you want to do. Yeah. I mean, one of the statistics that people look at when you try to find championship teams, top 10 defense, top 10 offense. Yeah. And a lot of times the teams with the offenses will kind of sneak in there

And they have a punchers chance, but the teams that defend are the ones in the playoffs Like we just talked about you. You got to get stops Best players in the world, right? Best players in the world are trying their hardest to win the game So eventually you're gonna have to get some stops because if not, they'll just keep scoring and all those teams, you know They got a little bit of youth on their side. They play really hard all the time.

They don't take possessions off. And then they got size and length at the rim and they got guys that can speed you up on the outside. That's a key, that's what our 2020 championship team with the Lakers, we had guards that were just hounding, pestering guys and then we send them into the lane to our three seven footers. Yeah. You know, it's like, how are you going to score like that? Like you got to be really decisive and,

and really smart about how you attack those, those teams. And you know, if you don't do it, you know, enough times in a row, all of a sudden they went on a 10 or run. Now you're playing behind the eight ball and it's really tough. Yeah. Cause it does. I mean, it is kind of a chick, not a chicken and egg because it does feel like you need the rim protector is the number one thing, but like the magic for example, their guard like Suggs is is big and he's long and he just he gets in your face. Is that because he knows he has that help behind him and that like those work together every time? Yeah,

those two things really play off each other. You know, I mean, you saw with us, we don't have three seven footers to send guys into, but I was a point of attack guy. Our guards did a really good job of trying to get over screens and limit activity. You kind of have to play like that regardless. If your garden, for his sake, your garden, Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell, guys can shoot threes, guys can get into the lane, good free throw shooters. There's not a whole lot they can't do offensively, so if you just let them play comfortably, they're going to kind of pick you apart.

Yeah. So I think it starts, you have to play like that out on the guards, and then it just is an added bonus that they got guys at the rim. Yeah, that's why Rudy Gobert, I mean that makes everything go for the Timberwolves where they're just like, yeah, we can just send you to Rudy go where you're not gonna school He's super aggressive user length and then if you get beat the rim, you got a safety blanket Yeah He at least will make you alter your shot or you're gonna think about me

Is there who's the number one guy that you would think about like when you're going into the paint wimpy wimpy you're like Oh shit, it's already dude. It's already there. Yeah, he can block He also the clips this year like they were guys that are on fast breaks and like he's a step behind him And they just dribbled out. Yeah, yeah, it's it's he blocked guys standing on the ground He's up there too like Rudy still has that you know that presence But man, when B's already just like he's he's so he's so long man. He was I got the free throw line There's a guy starting to take a three and he takes one step and blocks it. Yeah, it's just crazy Why why do people not like Rudy Gobert is it because he's french i don't know i don't know i think french might have something to do with it i think plenty of french guys that like

they like wimby like i don't like tony parker i think people like tony parker i don't think people hate nick petoon like i don't think it's a it's a mandatory french thing yeah i think it's probably the flame outs in the playoff. Maybe it's when he gave everybody COVID. Yeah, maybe. He's always pretty vocal, too. And people don't always love that from defensive guys. Think about any defensive player that was super outgoing

and vocal like that. If he wasn't on your team, everybody kind of hates that guy. Right. Yeah. Right. That makes sense. That's just kind of the status quo for how that goes. I think that's probably where where it comes in

It's like he he stops you from scoring and then he talks a lot about it But then he won't score on offense and you're like, what the fuck like what you're not scoring either. Yeah. Yeah that that That rubs a lot of NBA players wrong way because NBA players are all focused on scoring. Yeah I think it's like I'm gonna get a bucket and like you can't stop me You get a couple stops and guy talk shit. Yeah, have you noticed any difference in how the refs are officiating the game in the playoffs? Yeah, it's interesting man. I was I was thinking about this like it's like they go through a threshold At the beginning like playing first couple games and then all of a sudden it kind of reverts back because like it gets so grotesque of like a

Viewing experience because this guy's just hammering each other like guys are going in to lane it gets so grotesque of a viewing experience. Because these guys just hammering each other. The guys are going into the lane. I think about the Warriors Kings playing game. I don't know if y'all saw that game. Yeah. Dude, they're playing football. Yeah.

And it was obvious fouls that weren't getting called. And then today I saw James Harden did a stop, we call it a stop and shot, where guys on his side and they stop really fast and the guy touches them and it was like minimal contact and they called a foul and it's just stuff like that where it's like You want it to be one way or another or at least a happy medium? Like I just feel like it it starts off the playoffs. Everyone knows it's like alright, it's tightened up Like there's no real body like you can kind of you kind of arm bar game. Like if you go in and they

hit a little bit arm, like they're not going to call it, but then they kind of soften up like a couple of games. And it's like, all right, we got to get back to the production of what we want to walk. I also think they just don't, they don't take as many of like the cheap ones, which I appreciate like Kyle Lowry today. That was one of the funniest things you see that when I think maybe was Brunson Fell down and he tried to he tried to like jump and trip himself while shooting and it was ridiculous I've event you got you. Yeah, I know he got the call, but that's like I saw and shot from where his waist I

To that there was like eight Flopping calls called in the first couple weeks of season and then there was like two called in the last. That's how it happens in the NFL. They always do that. Don't do it. Point of emphasis for like a month and then it's like, wow. They get people to stop. Yeah. There's a lot at stake if you say that a guy flopped in a playoff game and if you're wrong. Like if it wasn't a flopping, you're calling for it. Yeah. How weird is it watching these playoffs? And I know that we're in the middle of these

series. We're watching the the Suns Timberwolves game right now Obviously the Lakers won on Saturday night, so they're still alive But we could have a playoffs where Kevin Durant LeBron James and Steph Curry are not in the second round Is it can you feel it shifting like the league is this is probably the first postseason where you actually see it? Yeah, like like even last year like You know those guys still were around like obviously the first postseason where you actually see it. Yeah. Like like even last year like you know those guys still were around like obviously gold state was was really good. Lakers made it to conference finals. It's just dude the the young guys man like and is and is

and is like of that old school nature like talk shit back it up talk more shit behind it which I love like the competitive spirit of it because you see a little bit of the like, not buddy buddy, but it's not as always cutthroat during the year. And for me, it's like win or go home every night. I'm trying to win the game. I'm friends with a lot of guys in the league. Like after the games, I'll say what's up,

good to see you. I'm gonna be pissed if we lose and I'm not gonna be as happy and is excited to see them but at the end of the day like I want to win like I'm not gonna like not try or like not like I'm not gonna back up or Slow my role because I'm playing against my friend and I feel like that's how he brings it every night And he's got the game to back it up or sometimes I don't yeah You know I might talk a good game at at the end of the day I need some help. It's cool to watch like him and SGA

and like some of these younger guys where it's like, okay, this might be, this is kind of what the league's going to look like. Yeah. I mean even Luke, Luke is still young. Yeah. There's so many, you know, Paulo Bencaro looks, he looked amazing game three. Yeah. If he, if he could ever develop like a high 30s three-point shot The dude is gonna be amazing. Yeah, so of all the young guys like second year or rookie Who is the one that you've got your eye on is it is it Paulo? We'll put chat. Yeah chat. Yeah, although was he technically a rookie this year. He was technically a rookie Yeah, it'll be second year. Yeah

Dude honestly yet Chats gonna be really good. People haven't talked about him enough just because, you know, she's commercial. Yeah. I've now done like a full circle on the commercial where it comes on. I'm like, Oh yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Pro wants, but like he's, he's going to be really good. Like we played him so early. We played him twice early in the year. So like he hadn't figured it out yet. And then watching him later in the year, man, he, you can tell guys that get better through the year.

He's going to be really good. I still think man, when, when Wimby figures it out, it's going to be trouble. Yeah. He's, he's just physically, you're going to, it's going to be like the, it's going to be like how teams had to, had to match up with LeBron for like a stretch of like a

decade where it's like, you need a couple of guys on your team that are 6'7 to 6'10 long and can move a little bit but for him it's gonna be like 6'9 to like 7 foot Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be Yeah with Wimby What's one thing about playing against him that we don't get as fans watch the game when we're just like We can obviously see his defense and what he can do, the places he can come from to block a shot that seem impossible. But is there something about his

game that playing against him is different and you can tell already, like this is going to be a problem? Dude, just how much space he absorbs while he's out there, even on offense for him. If a guard comes off a screen from him or somebody who's guarding him helps just a little bit and like there's a He's within 10 feet of the basket like he's gonna get the ball and he's gonna he's gonna score Like if you don't have a guy that's seven foot That's right next to him like he pretty much is just grabbing the ball and lays it in or dunks it And then like you said defensively like he can he can cover so much ground and like he

he set records this year for like blocks and and And like you said, defensively, he can cover so much ground. He set records this year for blocks and steals, I want to say. And he's just playing off instincts. He doesn't even know guys' habits yet. He doesn't know who likes to go left, who likes to pump fit. Once he figures out people's games and how the flow of the game works, he's going to set some records. How do you stop Jalen Brunson?

And what is it about Jalen Brunson that's like, why? Cause you know- Well a lot of people would tell you I don't have the answer for that like last couple games of the year. Yeah, I mean a lot of people don't, the whole league doesn't really have an answer for it. But like what is it about his game that he does at an elite level, because he's not like, he's not a Wemby he's not jumping off the page in terms of you know athleticism all that stuff but he's so so effective he always

feels like the game is in his control too. Yeah well especially once Julius was out for the year I mean it's just his ball every time down the court like when we he's I think pretty sure he had the highest usage rate post all-star break In the league either him or Luca were one and two and it's just you know He's just deciphering where he wants to go. He's shifty. You know, that's one thing He gets guys to change angles and move his body He's got a good first step and then he shoots it good enough off the dribble to where you have to honor it Yeah, it's hot. You know, you can make six seven in a game Honor it. Yeah, it's hot. You know, you can make six seven in a game

Scores at three levels like his his touch he gets in the lane plays off pivots. He's making reads, right? Like he's not Getting in there and saying I'm gonna go do this Like he's playing off of how you're guarding him, which is one of the hard things for me when I'm guarding him Because I'm trying to stay You know, I'm trying to play like a cornerback does in football Like I'm trying to mirror him and stay in I'm trying to play like a cornerback does in football. Like I'm trying to mirror him and stay in front and not give up like the angle or leverage. But he's just, he's a tough shot maker too. Yeah.

So shots that he probably shouldn't make, but so it's like, it's doing stuff where like he can, he's watching you and being like, your, your weight is in the wrong spot here and that's how I can go after you. Yeah, or like, you know, he pump fakes and you rise up. Like he has great footwork, that's the Villanova coming out and I'm like pretty sure they, what do you call it? Booty ball. Yeah, booty ball. Yeah.

He's got that down. Like he had that coming out of college and now he's just refined it and added some other stuff to his game and it's not like a point on the court where you can kind of shade him or, you know, corral him to that he can't find a way to get to a spot for a shot. Yeah, it is so much fun to watch

because it is like those are the players that they're not the most gifted athletically, but their footwork, no waste. Maybe not like in the tradition. Yeah, yeah, he's incredible. He's not jumping out of the gym. Right, that's what I mean, where it's not like he's jumping over guys. Yeah, that. No wasted. Maybe not like in the tradition. Yeah, yeah. He's incredible. I thought he jumped out of the gym. Right. That's what I mean where it's not like he's jumping over guys. Yeah. He's changing direction and his strength is underrated. Yeah. And it's just a foot. When a guy has footwork and I love when it's like no wasted steps.

Yeah. That's part of it too. There's no wasted movement. Yeah. A lot of times when I'm guarding guys, like if you waste movement, I'm going to take that as my advantage, cut you off or play you into one of my teammates. For him, it's not a lot of waste. He kind of reminds me, and I actually, this leads into a question. So did you do the anonymous poll on the athletic? Did you fill that out?

I don't think they asked me this year. Oh really? We're trying to find out who voted Paul Pierce. Oh, I did see that. Yeah. Who was the greatest ever? Yeah. Yeah. Was it you? It wasn't me. Can next year you do it? Yeah, it was the greatest ever is that was yeah. Yeah. Yeah was he you it wasn't me

Can next year you do it and and yeah, who should we do it? Blake Griffin Ellie Oh, deli Yeah, dude deli is the go and we're like, oh that was cool. So I respect deli's Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah. Oh that was that was like, you know my Avenue in that was yeah player I had to like tell you walks. He could run You're the Italian deli. You were the D.L.I. Yeah. Yeah, that was a very funny poll, though. So I but I brought up all beers, too, because he kind of had

not the same game as Jim, but also like not the fastest, but there was no wasted steps to a spot. Right. Exactly. He is also he could rise up and shoot over guys, too. Yeah. Six, seven, six, eight, I think. Going to get back to Caruso in a second. He's brought to you by Pepsi. Everything's better with Pepsi I love Pepsi the the zero sugar wild cherry delicious the standard also good Everything's better with Pepsi doesn't matter what you're having. You could be eating hamburgers I had a Pepsi with a hamburger last night set it off made the made the cheeseburger ten times better You can have Pepsi with Thai food.

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or would you like to defend it? Yeah, no, it's not great. Yeah. It's not the best, but it's a beach. Yeah, it is a beach. You don't go to get in the water. I'll say that. No.

There's sand. There's water. But there's also tar and oil on the sand. People also drive their cars on the beach. Yeah, a lot of seaweed, too. It's pretty gnarly. That's what it is, though. because people also drive their cars on the beach. We too. It's it's it's pretty gnarly Yeah, that's what it is though. You go out to hang out on the beach. You don't really like you know There's no boogie boards or like yeah I actually have seen people boogie boarding in Galveston, but I swear to God people will but you should not

What they've done is they get these big-ass oil tankers that drive by and the giant waves that come off of these oil People be like oh shit. Let's go catch a wave and it's just from this big ass dirty big smell today Yeah, exactly. It's I I kind of agree with Charles Barkley, but yeah, no, it's it's not the best It's not it's not known for its clean water. Well, yeah Yeah, you get drunk on the beach you drink 20 light beers in the sun on the beach place them and place them Yeah, exactly why? Yeah, yeah Why do role players play better at home or is that just a cliche we lean on and just like do confirmation bias?

We were like, oh this guy scored a bunch of points at home and it would be interesting to do like an actual statistical analysis on that because That is like, you know, that's like the generic like go to saying, like, oh, this guy, home game guy's going to play better. But like Alexander Walker the other night hit, you know, four or five threes in the second half on the road. Like, I don't think that affected him too much. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's person by person basis Yeah, because it is it is just I think it might be just be the cliche we go to where it's like alright You got to get back home. Then all the road the role players will chip in

Well, that's like this like I had some of my best games this year on the road like I had a game at Minnesota I said at career high and three made Game at Indianapolis had like 21 7 and 7 like I played some of my better games on the road this year So yeah What about have you ever been in a playoff game or any big game where the the crowd your home crowd seems to be? like 70 percent away fans no not that much no no but I Would talk do you think do you think that would piss you off for sure? Oh? Yeah, for sure for sure What would you be thinking about that I?

Probably during the game I wouldn't I wouldn't think about it too much. But like, you know, the other team makes a shot and you hear a bunch of cheers Yeah, what was that? Are you miss a free throw? Yeah home crowds. Yeah Yeah, that's and you're also fighting through Bell's pals where it's not it's not quiet when yeah your free throws at home Yeah, you can only see out of one eye and you're like, what are all these fans doing? What would you say? What would you say about that after the game? Not an excuses guy. Not an excuses guy. But it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah. Like you wouldn't say bad sports town, but some people could say that. It opens up, it opens up dialogue for that. The conversations happen.

It has to start. As it is, I don't give a fuck state of this series where he's like, this can't hurt me. I mean, the fact that it happened in Philly of all places is crazy. And I understand it's like a two hour drive from New York. You can get on a train, be there, and get back home. Price is also at MSG, or crazy to get in. That's my favorite. Whenever we start bringing in the price wars, we're like, well, it's so expensive to go

to MSG. Yeah. Which is kind of true. It is, but it's just such a funny cope that we go to where it're like, well, it's so expensive to go to MSG. Yeah. It's like- Which is kind of true. It is, but it's just such a funny cope that we go to where it's like, well, of course there's a bunch of fans, cheaper. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but for them to have

that many home fans on the road- I know, I know. Tickets are available. It's brutal. I would be upset if I was a player. What's, out of all the places in, all the teams still left, what's the best gym to shoot at?

Ooh, that's a good question. Good question. Thank you. That's a good question. Good question. All right, let's go through, honestly, Miami is notoriously good shooting gym. Really?

I mean, it's always warm, you know? So like, you don't have to worry about loosening up and getting warm and worrying about any of that. The basketballs are always soft, good basketballs. The rims feel soft, it's the humidity. Yeah. You know, like when the ball hits the rim, it's got a little better chance of going in.

Yeah. Miami's a good one. Phoenix isn't a bad one. Dry heat. Yeah, I'm trying to think of some more. Is there a bad one? Honestly, I want to say Minnesota, but like I shot well there this year, so I don't know if that's not so bad. Yeah, maybe it's not so bad. It's it's Staples Center. Sorry, crypto arenas. Good shooting gym. Yeah. You like it in the dark backgrounds? Yeah. Yeah. Is

there any truth to like it when you watch in the, uh, not the NCAA tournament, but a lot of times some of the smaller schools are playing in gyms that have the backs that are closer to the back, the backboard. Like, does that give you a better depth? Yeah. Like the high school type vibes. It's like like one row of bleachers. Yeah. Yeah, is that easier? That's a good question. I always felt like that would help with depth perception when there's like... Dude, honestly, I haven't played a gym like that so long.

I don't know. Yeah, our gym, I guess. Yeah, we'll take a couple shots after. Yeah. Yeah, we can put you on the gun and check your stats. Yeah. Might be better. What about the...

So like going forward in the playoffs, like back to, or not, there's no back to backs, but it's every other day. Is there real, like, does it really feel like you get later in a series and you start your body wears down or is it like, we're already here, we're used to this. It's fine. Because like I even game sevens, like you'll see the basketball will not be the best basketball. That might just be teams are tight, but like, how does it feel going through a deep playoff run? No, it's definitely I mean, it's It gets to you obviously

the only really deep playoff run I've had was with the bubbles so but like Didn't travel the travel didn't affect us but like by you know by by the second series Into the second series, you know you're tired. Yeah, and you just gotta fight through it. And even having like, so imagine finishing that. I mean, I think back to our series against the Bucs,

we played them like, I remember after the first game, I was taking charges on Giannis, I was in the mix late to game, and then we come back and I remember the drive home from Milwaukee to Chicago, I was just looking out of the window, I come back and like, I remember the drive home from Milwaukee to Chicago. I was just looking out of the window. I was like, fuck, I'm tired, dude.

Yeah. That was a lot. Cause you just did a different level. Yeah. There's no, like think about the last five minutes of a close game in the regular season, the whole game. Yeah. I guess it's as hard as you can go,

basically the whole 48 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Have you reached a point where you're starting to like take better care of your body? Players always talk about that. Like after in the league for so long, you realize what you can and can't do. I know a lot of, I forget who was saying this in an interview, but he was saying like at morning shoot around or like a morning workout, half the guys would just smell like liquor because they were like sweating out the night before essentially, getting back into shape.

At what point did you have to change the way either you like you partied a little bit or any of that other stuff because you realized you couldn't recover the same way you used to? Yeah, honestly, the last the last couple years just playing more minutes, you know, like when I was in LA, I was playing max 20 minutes, you know, maybe get into like the mid 20s if I'm playing really good some game because we had so many guys And so I didn't like, you know, I didn't realize you know, how much of a grind really the season was and then I got Chicago You know playing 30 minutes a night the first the first season and it's like oh shit Like when we play four games in six days, you know, and you're playing 25 30 minutes plus

It's like at the end of that third game on the back to back in the third game You're like, oh shit, like I need to get the cult of like, yeah And that was part of the reason this year. I think I had such a good year On the court, you know, I played 70 something games like 29 minutes 30 minutes a night Was just the routine, you know, like I. I was on top of all the shit that people talk about, hydration, nutrition. I was cold tubbing every time we had to on the road wearing my recovery tights. I just found a good rhythm. What are recovery tights?

They're basically just ankle to thigh, just full body recovery tights. Giant compression sleeves? Yeah, basically. I love those because those are, you see people in compression sleeves or the leggings and it's like either NBA athlete or diabetes. There's no in between. Those are the only two reasons you'd wear them. The biggest ends of the spectrum you could find. Maybe going on a long plane ride trying to increase your circle.

Yeah, but it's just like there's nothing really really it's like one or the other yeah yeah how did you decide to become a compression sleeve guy did you try out different things like Lucas wearing all sorts of shit all over his body have you tried out wearing like different sleeves different parts of your body yeah do I wear I are I have teammates that make fun of me I wear the most stuff out of anybody like I have I have And I don't wear those like those padded compression shorts on the hip Yeah from these companies because they don't actually protect like the joints and your bones like it's on your it's on your thigh and like Below your tailbone, so I wear it like snowboard the

Snowboard pads. Oh really? So when I like fall take charges and stuff like that's what I'm falling on. I got knee pads on. I wore the arm sleeve this year because at first like I hyper extended my elbow a little bit and my elbow was messed up. So I wore that to like keep it tight. And then sure enough fell on my elbow enough times during the season wore padded one towards the end of the year. I got a lot. I got a lot going on. Yeah. I like the knee pads, although I feel like a lot of players don't wear those. Like it would be like maybe restrictive. No, not restrictive. No, no. Because by the time I mean, you're not wearing like, you know, it's not like the weightlifting, like, you know, the powerlifting knee pads where

it's like your are your leg has to stay straight. Like they're pretty movable. The ankle braces, I'm surprised. Those are restrictive, I would assume, because like no one wears... Yeah, I tape. I don't wear the ankle braces. Like Grayson Allen wears the thick ones. I think Steph wears them. Yeah. Jared Fox wears them.

Yeah. Looks like Forrest Gump. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the ankle braces. I'm a tape guy. Yeah. Gotta have that movement. All right, I'm not a big fan of the ankle braces. I'm a tape guy. Yeah, I have that movement Alright, I got one last question row back question our HOP a CK comm promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts. Thank you Alex for coming in You're I know you're going on summer break So I'm happy that you're able to come in whenever you're back You got a golf and you also like we learn more about basketball with you around. I think we're gonna give you a key card next year. That

would be great. Just come in and golf whenever and beat the fuck out of Hank, which actually I might just have that be like, we just have it on the schedule. It's on site. Hank gets his ass kicked. Yeah. It's pretty cocky Hank. Yeah, we can just we can just shove them down like you're still not good. I think just gets really good? Nah. Nah. He has gotten a lot better, but nah. I'm not really worried about that. So, the young teams, I know everyone's like, oh well the nuggets look like the best team in the West. They're the defending champs. The Celtics. Hank already has Celtics nuggets in the finals. But the young teams of the Thunder, the Wolves, the Pacers, I guess you throw the Knicks in there just not.

Are the Wolves that young of a team? I'm saying more like young in terms of success. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean the Thunder confuse it because they are literally the youngest team. Yeah, like the deep run teams. Which team do you think has the best chance to potentially do a crazy how do they get to the finals run?

It's crazy, I mean the wording of that is tough too. It's like how do they get to the finals run? It's great. I mean the wording of that is tough to yeah, like how do they get to the finals but like literally the West had three number one seeds this year, right? Like the Thunder and the Wolves and Denver went back and forth till the yeah, they're game apart. Yeah. Based on the first couple games. I don't think the Pelicans were a true test for for okay see so it's tough to say with them But based on how Minnesota's playing I'd say I'd say the T Wolves

Yeah, it does feel and it feels ready for the moment like he doesn't feel like he shies away You know make miss and he's indifferent like he just is go mode I like I like Mike Conley. I like I like McDaniels. I like the pieces like I like how their team fits for the postseason. Yeah, they're in the regular season. Night in night out depending on matchups. It's not great. But for the postseason, I think I think they'd match up with a lot of a lot of teams really well. What about what about the Pacers because they're they are like they haven't I think this would be the first series the Pacers have won in a long time

And they they play a style. That's like fun to watch they fast they got yeah athletes I think it's the same thing though with with the Thunder like bucks without bucks without yeah honest and also, you know, Dana missed miss tonight and Bobby got ejected so like I'm not taking anything away from them. Cause like, you still gotta go out there and play the games and they're playing well and they beat them earlier in the season too. So it's not like it's completely, you know, out of the ordinary for that. But I don't know, dude, the way they play, I, it makes it hard too.

Cause we had success against them this year. So I don't understand. It makes it hard too because we had success against them this year. Yeah, so I don't understand. I don't understand how the other teams Struggle with them when it's just like all right get back in transition You know pretty much I say take care of but like guard Halliburton guard Siakam You got a pretty good recipe for success But I guess we just matched up with them. Well, yeah, I don't know Who who they who are they playing the second round if they if they advance They would play the Knicks Sixers. Yeah, don't love that for them

Yeah so I mean the T wills are good because you're right like the The Pacers have been impressive, but they are playing against I think there's just more question marks around the other team, right? Where's the wolves of just I know they're playing right now, but like the first three games They've completely yeah, they dismantled the Sun's just just nothing special either like they just go out there guarding playing on offense Going home yeah and for for us because we're not the smartest basketball minds in the world when we're watching the Sun's on paper The Sun's should be good. They

should, I think, I mean they have a big three, they put together a big three. What is it about the team that has just looked so disjointed, so just like frustrating to watch? What is the, what is the reason why they're struggling despite having so much talent? Yeah, I think they're missing, I think they're missing a point guard, like a lead guard. Yeah, Chris Ball. I think they're missing I think they're missing a point guard like a lead guard like somebody. I think they're missing somebody to organize everything to Take some of the pressure off these other guys to bring the ball up to you know through the through a playoff series Like we talked about seven games

if you have to work as hard as they have to work to get shots up and Especially against the Timberwolves so much length like you're not just getting layups at the rim And now you're asking them to bring the ball up and to organize stuff and to make decisions. It's just a lot. I feel like a couple of the games that I've watched, it just looks like whenever like, you know, the energy's high and the game's kind of crazy,

like they need to be able to throw the ball to somebody, put it under their arm and like, all right, go get in the corner, run this play, do this, and kind of calm everything down. And they don't have, they don't have a stable force. Yeah. It's even, I mean, the Mavs Clippers game was so incredible to watch because you had like James Harden and Kyrie just trading in the fourth quarter. It's like, this is, you know, and it was just like, all right, we got the ball and it's like, get to your spot, get to your spot. Come, come set the screen. Right, right. It. It's either I'm going to get a great shot or someone else is

going to get a great shot. All right. Well thanks so much Alex. Enjoy your summer. Good luck with golf. Appreciate that. Whenever you're back you're welcome to come by. I want you to just beat Hank every single time. We just get it like 100 matches. Hank Hank what's your what's your best round ever. I shot eighty six Hank Hank. What's your what's your best round ever? I Shot at 86 a couple weeks ago. Okay, well I get oh Yeah, was it an 86 from the whites were you keeping no gimmies no gimmies no mulligans no breakfast balls

Maybe breakfast. Oh No, gimmies at all. No not a single game the people you're playing with were they like all in cup. That's yeah number Ball and cup. That's a good number. Okay Good job Hank. I shot a 72 at Shinnecock once I Think I know about that. Yeah, and then people people talk about it coast to coast. Yeah, no erasers on the Yeah, well, listen, you can shoot whatever you want. You just got to fill it out. Yeah, it's very easy scores of mine Yeah, you got me night. You could want me like you shot. You want to go to Pebble Beach tomorrow? It's shooting 65 somebody I tweeted and actually JJ reddit text me. He's like dude. I didn't know you're a stick We got to get out. Yeah, you're like dude. I

Skipped like seven holes I Did that one time gave up? I know one time with a scorecard where I had three zeros on my car Yeah, I was like good right almost broke a hundred. Yeah Hole sometimes though you just get your drink. Yeah, exactly. It was crazy I actually did enjoy though the like hour of People like reaching out being like holy shit. Yeah, you're really good golfer Yeah, I was like this is awesome like everyone respects me now It's like announcing you're having a

kid and then posting a 72 at Schoeneckach. You get probably the same amount of texts from people. Yeah. Congrats. That's awesome. Yeah. It was crazy. Oh dude. Congrats. I remember like it wasn't cancer. Yeah. It wasn't a ton of people. But JJ texted me and was like, we got to go out. And then Justin Thomas texted me. He's like, dude, I didn't know you had that game. And I was like, I don't. out. And then Justin Thomas texted me, he's like, dude, I didn't know you had that game. And I was like, I don't. Did they revoke the invitation?

Yeah, they were just like, oh. It wasn't real. They were like, oh, never mind. I'm never golfing with you. The internet gets a bad rap sometimes for golf losers that will correct anything in your swing, like if you post a swing online. But what I've found is the golf community is actually

very, very supportive. If you shoot like, if you think it's a decent score. I mean, even like if I, if I break a hundred and I post the scorecard, there's so many people that are like, dude, that's awesome. Congrats. I'm so proud of you. Yeah. You don't hear about those people as much as you hear the losers. Like you need to open up your swing. Yeah. The point of impact cares about those people. Yeah. I felt loved. Yeah. I got to do it again. They don't love the game. They run for themselves. Exactly. Wait, what's your best score? Um, I've do it again. They don't love the game. They're for themselves exactly. Wait, what's your best score? I've shot a two over

73 and a 74 so on a par 71 so not 72 at Shinnecock. No, you got me you got You can always dream you can always dream. I'm playing Tuesday. I'm gonna shoot 71 text it to you Okay, have you got a hole in one? Yeah, I got one is it on film It's recorded on my phone that the ball was in the hole of the people. So that's a no no I don't play YouTube golf My summer job don't want to be the guy who every single par three you're like hey take out your phone Yeah, yeah, I might do it this time. Yeah even close you just start talking it we did that in Arizona we went to we played the the TPC at Scottsdale yeah and we hit a par three everybody brought their cameras out which one was the famous one 16 I know we did

that on 16 too but I think it was like I don't know seven or something on the front nine and I hit my shot and the ball went directly to the right bounced off a tree and went backwards and then they're like, okay try it again And I did the exact same thing with the ball with backwards and having somebody film you like you're expecting to get a hole in one And have it turn out that bad Did they know what kind of golfer you were? Oh, yeah, they played seven holes in me. Oh, yeah We'll post the video. Yeah, uh, but yeah, uh hole in one so you haven't really got it yet. No. Yeah Yeah, sorry. Yeah, we we won't allow it. I got one asterisk like the like the championship. It's a yeah, right

One ring right you feel like you're a champion when you go to bed at night. We don't yeah You got a bubble hole in one. Yes That'd be the biggest scumbag move of all time if you lied and said that you got a hole-in-one Like at the end of your round you like post online. Yeah I've done that I have done just random like scorecards I'll just throw one out there and then people there's like holy shit but but somebody doing it seriously I think that might be the saddest thing ever oh would definitely be the saddest if somebody's like I feel like that's gotta be bad karma too like you're you're you would never make onedest. I feel like that's gotta be bad karma too. Like you're, you're, you'll never make one. Yeah. I, uh, not to, I can't remember the story. This dude,

this dude I found on the internet, he, he like was new to golf, came in, told his grandpa that he was like, how'd you round go? He's like, Oh, it was great. Like I made a hole in one and blah, blah, and his grandpa was like so excited for him. He didn't make a hole in one. He was just like, you know, bullshitting with him. didn't have the heart to tell him day later He comes back guy made him a plaque. Oh With the ball the whole what was the yardage? Oh, no Guys grandpa dies before you can tell him. Oh Never she better. He said he's never gonna make what his life. Oh, yeah

That's the perfect jinx. Yeah. Hey grandpa's dead and he thought you had a whole month. That's kind of cool Yeah, I guess for him. Yeah. Yeah, the grandpa gets to heaven and I always imagine that when you get to heaven You've got like DVR for life when you get you can watch anybody. We don't know these people some morals Yeah, yeah, but I just always would imagine that he's like I want to go see my grandson's home Yeah, it's rewind and he's like what the hell what the hell is he done? Yeah, now he's up in heaven pissed off for the rest of his life. Yeah. All right, Caruso. Thank you so much. We'll see you soon. Yeah. I'll be back soon.

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they Kevin Garnett took them to the Western Conference finals. I think this is the first time they've won a series. Is it really? I believe so. I'm gonna look it up. I'm gonna look at that. I mean that would be shocking if true. I'm pretty sure. Just because it feels like we talk about the Wolves being in and around the postseason. But they haven't won series. The playing game. Yeah playing game. They haven't won series. Here we go. Minnesota Timberwolves playoff history Let's see. They I am Let's see. They, I am 100% correct. Wow. Kevin Garnett year, they went to the Western Conference Finals. Other than that, in their franchise history, which started in 1989, 1990 season, they have not won a playoff series. So congrats to Timberlake. That's awesome. That is very

cool. That's big. That's huge. Yeah is very that's big like that's huge Yeah, you should you should enjoy this to everyone Minnesota your sports history has just been so tortured and so painful. This is big That's a crazy stuff. It's big and it's also not a fluke that you domino sons You're really really good and I have to think that they're gonna be I Guess I guess they could match up well against against the Nuggets, right? Like their defense is incredible. They I don't think they matched up well against the Nuggets, right? Their defense is incredible. I don't think they matched up well against the Nuggets in the regular season, but I don't think that matters.

Because I think the Suns matched up well against the Timberwolves in the regular season, so who the fuck cares? Yeah, their team defense is unreal. Yeah, Anthony Edwards is him. Yeah, congrats. That's huge. I mean, they've been building, they've been flirting with it. Now they have gone to the next round,

they're a team on the rise. That's fucking awesome. On the other side of it, time to blow up the Suns. Okay, so a couple Suns. They might be un-blow-up-able. Yeah, no, it's gonna be very hard. I think blowing up the Suns is like fire the coach, even though it's gonna be very hard. I think that blowing up the Suns is like fire the coach. Yeah, it's his first season Mattish via

This has maybe been one of the greatest like guy guy buys a team rich guy buys a team who thinks he's the smartest guy in the world Does a bunch of all-in moves and it blows up in record time I we've seen it time and time again This happens all the time Remember what Prokhorov with the nets like anytime a new owner shows up. They're like we got a win right now I want to do everything right now. The Suns have Zero playoff wins this season. They have zero first-round picks from

2025 to 2030 they have zero second round picks from 2024 to 2030 Okay, so that's a Let me say that again. I'm trying to think how you're going to get good players. They have one pick in the NBA draft between now and 2031. One single pick. That's insane. They have Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, and Devin Booker. They've also like, think about it, they were

two games away, they were up 2-0 on the Bucks, and everything that has happened since then has been an all-out disaster. Yeah, it's been very painful. And they deserve a lot more blame than they get. I think they just kind of snake by. They should be shamed, shamed, shamed for the way they've gone out. Yeah, so today, I think KD had 33 points. Yup.

Bulk had 47 points. Yup. They went out. They tried. Bradley Beal, nine points. Bradley Beal also, no trade clause like we said, and he's getting I think $50 million a year for the next three seasons. So I don't know how you blow this team up. No, I mean, they got to hope that someone wants to trade for Kevin Durant or if Kevin Durant says he wants to be traded. Kevin Durant, this is getting, it's getting on the ugly side of his career in terms of I know that he had that one, which I mentioned at the beginning of the show, the one season where he almost single-handedly took the nets to

beat the Bucs in that game seven where his foot was on the line. But other than that, this has not been a fun few years since he left Golden State. Also the Suns have not won a playoff game since Matt Ishbia took a flop against Jokic. Yeah, that was a big flop. So they've lost six straight games. But remember Suns in four-year? Suns in four-year wass in Four Year was fun. It was fun.

Yeah, I don't know what. That's, I mean, Kevin Durant now, with the Nets and the Suns, he's completely destroyed two franchise. I don't know that you can say he destroyed the Nets. Well, he went there, he brought Kyrie. Kyrie obviously had a lot large part of it But then he was like I need to get out of here

Yeah, and it's not like they I mean the nets will are trying to rebuild but they went all in with Kevin Durant And he's like two years later was like get me the fuck out of here Yeah, I mean he's gonna do the same thing for the Sun that entire experiment in in Brooklyn was just I think there are three big reasons Why it didn't work right, but he did feel like he was the one who's putting it all together Yeah, and it but it didn't work, but this experiment also yeah did not work. Yeah, so Kevin Durant I think the only movie has is hope the thunder will take him and they can win a title Maybe it's coming home. Maybe bring him back to DC Yeah, I don't know that this was

this was a crazy, they just absolutely dismantled them. The Wolves are just so much better. And now the Suns are, like if you're Matt Ischia, what do you do? That shot of him on Friday night when they zoomed in and he was just like the saddest guy in the world. I don't know what you do. You bought this team, you thought you were like, you know,

I'm gonna get my big three, we're gonna win a championship. Look at me, I'm the smart guy. And it's just all gone to shit. So let's go into the big bag of tricks of what a billionaire owner would do, like someone that's new to the business. You tried going all in.

You tried putting together a super team. That's not working. Now I feel like you gotta go, you got to go to your superstars and see who they want as the coach. Yeah. Right. And then you hire whoever your superstar says, and then that doesn't work out. And then now you've learned two big lessons in your first couple of seasons. Yeah.

Right. But I feel like this is the exact time in a new owner's life where he becomes like, tries to be best friends with his stars yep and then gives them whatever they want and then they're going to be unhappy regardless of what happens like one one and a half years from now tops yeah yeah that's pretty much that's the book yeah that's the book he's and he was doing his he had his kids around him I think tonight just maybe like soften the blow like hey, yeah, don't make fun of me as much My kids are here. Yeah, Bradley Beal did say I've never been swept a day in my life So I'll be damned if that happens. Oh, I do I do

No, actually, no, I was gonna say I respect Kevin Durant and Devin Booker like not just like just, like, folding in the first quarter. But no, I don't, I actually don't, I don't respect- You don't respect that? No, I don't, I don't respect the Suns at all. I don't, I'm not going to give the Suns any compliments. Okay. I don't think they deserve a single compliment. All the compliments go to the Wolves. The Gorilla was cool. I love the Gorilla. The Gorilla was cool. But yeah, the Wolves are a complete team. I do think they, they can give the nuggets a series. Like I think they can win that series. Yeah. I mean, why not? You have to think that go bear against Yocic is as good as it can get

against Yocic, right? Yeah. And I think we'll have like what we're going to have both. We're going to have one game where Anthony Edwards probably, uh, shoots like two for 18, but then we're also gonna have a game where Anthony Edwards is the best player on the court Yeah, and he just dominates cuz he is that guy. I fucking love him We got to get him on PMT have to get him on PMT. Oh, maybe Tom Kreen. Yeah, can help us get him Yeah, Tom Kree. He's a Tom Kreen guy. He's a Tom Kreen disciple Okay Let's finish up the show. I just want to give a quick shout out to all the listeners who had my back on Friday and

they're like, this is what America's about. This sad loser that is Max tried to take one away from you and then you just through hard work beat him. It was incredible. Everyone was like, this is what America's about. Yeah. Is there any additional pressure on you, Max? Oh, there's so much pressure on him. Is there any pressure on you? No, he's going to get it. No, I'm going

to get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Max. I'm just going to continue to continue to ask you every time this question is asked towards me. Okay. And I'm going to say I'm going to get, yeah, I'll say the same thing. I'm going to get it too. No one believes you. Oh, okay. I'm going to get it. Maybe this time. Okay. Let's see. You know what? Maybe work hard like I did. I've been thinking about getting it this time. I made a promise. I'm gonna get it maybe this time. Okay. Let's see. You know what? Maybe work hard like I did I've been thinking about getting it this time. I made a promise. I'm the anti Bradley Beal I made a promise and I delivered so shout out all the people and they even even even Hank and Max tried to take My joy away when kill Williams said he was number 18. It was so sad It was nasty work. You were being a nasty boy on Thursday

There was a lot of things said about him being 13 You were being a matching nasty boy. You did follow me around the entire office and be like, hey I got 13 Caleb Williams number Because it was when we when I followed you around the office. What time was I following? There was also a time where I asked you a question I was like is that gonna be his number in the NFL? I said probably no you said yeah, he's already said that that's gonna be his number you know I was thinking about like how awesome would it be to be a punter on a? And he's like, yeah. I said, probably. No, you said, yeah. He's already said that that's going to be his number. You know what I was thinking about?

Like, how awesome would it be to be a punter on a team, and then you draft a guy, and then he has to pay you like $40,000 bucks for your jersey? Yeah, if you're a punter, you've got to pick a team number to try to get a wide receiver quarterback. Like, if you were a Browns punter in the 2000s or 2010s, I would change my number every year looking at who the hot quarterback prospects

We're gonna be coming out next year's draft. Yeah, try to camp on their number So that way when Johnny Manziel comes in you like gotta buy you gotta pay up Shit, it's good point. It's a good line of work to be in yeah, imagine if there was if if someone because Keenan Allen is number 13 and Keil Williams great teammate was, no, he's a future Hall of Famer. I've got to give him the number. But imagine if someone on the Bears had gone 13, sold it to Keenan Allen, then went 18, sold to Cale Williams. Yeah, you flip it. Now you're flipping jerseys. If you're a punter, if you're a punter or

a kicker in the NFL, reach out to us. We're happy to consult with you and tell you what jersey number you should switch to ahead of next season. Yeah. Okay. Max, have you ever gotten this? We're happy to consult with you and tell you what jersey number you should switch to ahead of next season. Yeah Okay, max. We were gotten this Pft. Have you ever gotten this no I asked the question about you man. I asked the question to pfd Okay, but I answer my question. I have not gotten it yet pft. Have you gotten it yet? I'm about to okay Max you pick my number for me today No, please no. I want you to I will not because I could probably win with your number, too I want to to. I will not. Because I could probably win with your number too. I want to show you. I'm not going to do that. Okay. Numbers? 23. There's a ball

up top. Yep. Six. What's six? I'll do 18. Lucky number. Oh, Jake's gonna be so mad if you get it mad. Oh, he's doing it for Cale Williams. Yeah. I know. But Jake's gonna be so mad if you get it mad. He's doing it for Cale Williams. Yeah, I know but Jake's gonna be mad regardless I gotta think cuz I'm I'm I'm hot. I'm one for one in the last one You know what? 99 pugs they go plug max when you looked in there was 20 in there Right. It was right next to 13. Yeah, that was a sad moment when max was Sassy's like 20 even in here. I was fucking find this. I can't see it. I'll go 67. 21. That was Shane. Max, did you have any losers try to say I looked this time? Nope. Yeah, you probably tried. You

probably were Twitter searching. I didn't even look Never I never wanted to look at that moment again means did you say three or you're just holding your hand up I said three but I'm holding You're so fucking good at this so much better than Max Back there third time Yes Come like clockwork. Good job. You're fucking beast, dude. I Don't know what to say. How do you do it? I place right time Dude.

I don't know what to say. How do you do it? Right place, right time. Pug. Oh, congrats Pug. I'm happy. I'm gonna be happy for anyone except Max. Cause Max is never gonna get it. Max, you ever got it?

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