Pardon My Take - NFL Week 11, Fastest 2 Minutes, Vikings Get Whomped & Zach Wilson May Be An Issue

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

NFL week 11, Fastest 2 minutes to kick us off. (00:02:30-00:09:06) Then we discuss every game from Sunday Patriots 10, Jets 3 (00:09:06-00:28:46) Eagles 17, Colts 16 (00:28:46-00:41:07) Bills 31, Browns 23 (00:41:07-00:54:58) Commanders 23, Texans 10 (00:54:58-01:04:52) Lions 31, Giants 18 (01:04:52-01:16:12) Falcons 27, Bears 24 (01:16:12-01:32:30) Saints 27, Rams 20 (01:32:30-01:40:30) Ravens 13, Panthers 3 (01:40:30-01:45:07) Raiders 22, Broncos 16 (01:45:07- 01:52:06) Bengals 37, Steelers 30 (01:52:06-02:00:57) Cowboys 40, Vikings 3 (02:00:57-02:12:47) Football guy of the week (02:12:47-02:18:37) and who's back of the week to wrap up the show. (02:18:37-02:38:14).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, week 11 of the NFL. We recap every game, fastest two minutes. A lot of things happened, a lot of moving and shaking, a little bit of more clarity on who's good, who's not.

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Terms apply. Today is Monday, November 21st, week 11. What? What? And before we get started, we wanna wish a congratulations to our friends up north, the Toronto Argonauts. Great cup. Fantastic game.

Great season. His uncle, very good friend. Very good friend. We start in Foxboro where Zach Wilson was running a Coors Light special nine for 22. The game was a punt fest as Braden Juwanaman has the Jets still searching for theirs and Michael Ladidadi, we like to Palladi,

added another seven punts for the Patriots in a matchup of which quarterback sucks more. The MacCume Cleaner sucked better and it was another MA Jones who came up huge as Marcus ran. Ran his way to victory with a punt return touchdown with five seconds left. Jets plus three and a half, soon spread. Patriots 10, Jets three.

To Detroit we go for the Browns and the Bills. Huh? The Bills went across a body of water as Stefan Bay of Diggs went Cuba diving in hopes of smoking a victory cigar. The run police were out in full force to sparing Buffalo's offense only to forget that they have Devon Little Singletary's magic.

Everything he does just turns them on as he rushed for 86 yards and a score. The game was a blowout but unfortunately Donovan fucked the people's Jones, scored with 30 seconds left to screw the Bills backers. Hey Tage, yeah boom? No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 31, Browns 23.

Down to Indianapolis where Jeff Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Jeff Saturday's all right, all right. Jalen Flirts was bumbling as the Eagles one seed hinged on his play but he kept grinding and was able to dig deep and farm. There's only a win out of an otherwise poor

Philadelphia performance. Hey Siri, honey, subscribe to part of my take and play Fly Eagles Fly, Eagles 17, Colts 16. We screwed up some computers there, huh? Sorry, sorry. And Houston were in a plot twist, Kindle Roy Fuller and Logan Roy Thomas played on the same team for once

as the commanders let their way star shine bright, cruising to a victory. We don't talk about the Cruisers group. Casey Anthony Twohill wrapped up a Texans ball carrier and then acted all innocent but everyone knew that he did it. Cheer up Texans fans. The Astros just won a World Series without cheating.

So you've got that going for you, which is nice. They've actually won three more games in Houston. Then the Texans have all season long. And so it's an Astros time and all three of those games forgets to fill the LVT as well. Commanders 23, Texans 10. In Atlanta where the Bears met the Falcons in a battle of Billy football's dreams.

Speaking of Met, Cole had a highlight catch as the ball commenced his hand in the first half for a big game. Corner L Reuben Patterson, aka the Kobe Stopper slithered through the kickoff defense for his record breaking ninth kickoff return for a touchdown. Breaking moves.

Breaking moves. LeBron James just tweeted, when I saw Corner L Patterson get drafted by the Vikings in 2013, I said to my boys, that guy is gonna break the kickoff return record someday. The Bears had one last drive fall flat as field past the David Montgomery Burns, smithered the last chance in a Bears victory.

Falcons 27, Bears 24. We go to the Meadowlands, where Giant's quarterback Daniel got thrown to the Lions' den. Aidan O'Benton Hutchison got away with another interception and it's soup season for Campbell as he went right at chunky Tay Klam frowner. Jared Custer Goff said, Ivanka win

and is currently living rent free in the minds of Giant's fans. No cap, but Jamal Williams was adorable and got himself fitted for a hat trick. Some prayer row. Lions 31, Giant's 18. In Minnesota, where many people have been saying, don't rush to judgment on the 8-1 Vikings,

we must wait for all the Dax to come out. Dallas put on their Tony Cowboy Pollard and ran the ball down Minnesota's throat. And let's hope Ezekiel Elliott Ness doesn't stay in town because Viking fans will need a drink after this whoppin'. Anytime Nick Mullins and Adam Thrillin appear on a telecast, you're gonna be dealing with some problematic footage as Big D goes to Comtown, RIP.

Cowboys 40, Vikings three. Up to mile high where Broncos fans are calling him, Nathaniel, take off your pants and hack it because this guy's coaching like a jerk off. After a prophetic pregame statement from Coach Hackett that somebody has to win, the game went into overtime and was headed to a tie, but in a touch of tribute to my good friend,

Elon Musk's Tesla autopilot system, the Broncos secondary wasn't able to recognize a man by himself being targeted by a car. The... The Raiders take down the Broncos 22 to 16. Standing on a corner, Jamie Swinson down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. It's McVay, my lord, what's he coaching for?

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Week 11 in the books, we're steppin' into fourth quarter of Charger's Chiefs, and we will update you after that. But week 11 in the books, great week. Great week 11, I feel like we learned some stuff. There was kind of some duds of games, not a ton of scoring in the first slate, but some compelling storylines coming out of this week.

As things we learned. I really learned a lot about one team today. Ah, we, listen. There's one team that, I'm not smiling. It might sound like I'm smiling. Yeah. And it might sound like I'm about to take a victory lap, but I am against all forms of running,

so I will not be taking a victory lap yet. Yeah, there's, yeah. I am going to enjoy talking about this week's NFL game. Yes, we do it chronologically, so it will be the last game we talk about. So for the people who maybe are on our side, you can just wait for that.

And the people who have been sickos and perverts and weirdos listening to us have to lament a certain team going eight and one up until this week. This won't be fun for you. But let's hop in, let's do chronological order. Let's start with Patriots Jets. Patriots 10, Jets three. Now that's actually not chronological order

because for some reason this game started like 15 minutes late. Did we ever figure out what was going on with that? No idea. It's classic Belchak. Power outside the stadium. Yeah, Belchak absolutely. And in an outside the stadium. Belchak, he had one of those EMPs from Oceans 11

that fried all the electronics. Yeah, so it did start a little late, but Patriots 10, Jets three, an absolute defensive slug fest, snooze fest offensively, three, three tie going into the last 30 seconds until we had a Braden Mann line drive punt to Marcus Jones who returned at 84 yards. Four, the first punt return touchdown this season

and the Patriots win 10 to three. I don't know where we want to start. I mean, there's a lot of... Well, this was... We should start with the winners. Yeah, let's start with the Patriots. It was the first game in the last 40 seasons in which the first touchdown scored was a defense

or special teams touchdown in the final minute of the game. Also... This is a game that we've never seen before. It also... It's a game of gummy. Our guy, Stathole Sports, who has stats backing up to 1990 said the first time he could find that the special teams and extra point scored more

than both offenses. Yeah. So that was seven points at the end by special teams and extra point more than the six points that both offense were able to produce with field goals. Interesting. It's crazy. So Hank, the floor is yours.

Congratulations, Mac Jones. He's a winner. Because I think we know we have a lot of other things we got to discuss. Mac Jones wins football games. Yeah, one of the worst games I've ever watched. I was just miserable. It was a miserable viewing experience.

There was really no fun, no joy. Till the end, we did win. We did cover. Which is crazy. That's an all-time bad beat. Yes. I had just been three and a half. I was texting friends being like,

we need to get a pick six, which was in play because Zach Wilson is one of the worst quarterbacks I've ever had to watch. That was in play. And that was my only thinking of how we could win this game. It's like, we need to pick six, touchdown. We can win and cover. Not even factoring in a punt return.

But yeah, it was, I guess, we won. I'm happy. It was gross. We suck. At least when the Patriots had the ball. The play calling. I always say this about the play calling. And I'm not a football mind.

You guys, Billy played football. You guys know football. I don't know football play calling to save my life. I just played Madden. It drives me fucking insane when it's 3rd and 7th, 3rd and 8th. And we just throw the ball to like three yards pass. Just take a shot. Like try and not like 3rd and 15th, not 3rd and 14th, 3rd and 8th,

3rd and 6th, 3rd and 7th. Just have the receivers run a route, pass the line to game, and then throw them a pass. The best way to sum up this game, because there was no offense, but Mac Jones didn't play bad. He just, you know, he was like, yeah, right. There was a stretch where he was 10 for 10 in a row for 134 yards.

And in that stretch, he was sacked four times. So in the 10 for 10 stretch, he was sacked four times. That was the type of game we were dealing with, where Mac Jones actually played pretty well, especially when you consider the guy he was playing against in Zach Wilson. Also Hank, I'll say that Matthew Judon is just an absolute game wrecker.

He has 13 and a half sacks on the season. He's a fucking beast. But yeah, a win is a win, is a win. And now we should probably talk about Zach Wilson and oh boy, is it bad. Well, here's a fun stat. They had more punts than he had completions today. PFT, here's another fun stat.

In the second half, Zach Wilson had four completions for 12 yards. Oh, wow. But, okay, go ahead. Because I had another fun stat. Oh, you had another one, okay, yeah. He had 44 net yards on 26 drop backs. Oof, oof.

That's like less than two yards per drop back. Yeah, so he was nine for 22 for 77 yards, not net yards, 77 yards. And 34 of those yards came on one play. He also, and this is probably the bigger issue, afterwards was asked, do you feel like you let the defense down? And he replied, no.

He also added, I think you have to take into account it's windy as hell out there too, guys. Good point. So, win was a factor. There was also a report afterwards that the Jets locker room was maybe not so happy that Zach Wilson was walking around not taking accountability when the punter

and the special teams took accountability and the defense played lights out and held the Patriots at three points. And Zach Wilson was that bad, but he doesn't. Well, you know what? He can't because he says he doesn't care about stats. The exact quote that was said, sources inside the Jets losing locker room told SNY

that Zach Wilson was walking around after the game, like he isn't the problem. I would like to know what that walk looks like. I think I know what that walk looks like. Basically saying like your shit doesn't stink is what they're getting at. I would like Zach Wilson after this game to wear whatever scarlet letter the team chooses from.

Just walk around their hand raised and don't say anything for the next day, but like, hey, that one was on me, guys. Just say like, hey, my bad. Yeah, all right, so Billy, before you talk, I wanna help you out, okay? Because I actually, and you might not realize this, I have been here because this,

the comparison I've been making is the Jets this season feel like the 2018 Chicago Bears. And I say that because the Chicago Bears in 2018 were an elite defense. This Jets team has an elite defense. The quarterback was in their second year, second overall pick. I looked back and it was actually through week 11,

both teams had five games so far in the season with under 200 pass yards. They both had given up about the same amount of points and it goes to the same problem of your team can be good and your quarterback's bad and having to separate the two because I was hurt very badly by that team because I was like, oh, it's gonna be okay. Mitch is gonna be okay.

When deep down I knew, maybe not. So with that, go ahead. This is one of the hardest. This was one of the worst Jets losses, I think since the butt fumble, to be honest. Just like, it's pretty bad. And that's just because the game was so close the whole time in a low scoring game in my head,

I was like, this is the game we can win. This is the game we can win. We're just gonna break it through with one run. We're gonna get one touchdown drive. Just something on the ground probably and it's gonna break open and then we're gonna manage the clock and get it down and hopefully win 10-3.

But it's the coin. It's the coin we could win this game, the coin. The coin was 10-0 on picks going into week 11 and is now 11-0. The coin says that the Patriots were gonna beat the Jets so we're at the mercy of the coin. The coin saw us almost winning the game and the coin was like, boom, punt return.

You never had a chance to win. You were going up against something much more powerful than the wind. That's the coin. The coin was forced to. I think you have to take an account. It's windy as hell out there too, guys. I had actually friends at the game, former college teams.

Now were they at the game or were they like a mile away? You've had some sketchy weather reports. No, I had these guys at the game. They were bundled up. What did they say? Was it windy as hell? They said it's windy as fuck. Oh, it's fuck.

We have to, okay, so I heard, we need to figure this out because it was either windy as fuck or windy as hell. In the Snapchat stories they posted, you can hear the wind. Oh, okay, that sounds, how many miles an hour did it sound like? I don't know. Okay, yeah, that's a lot.

It sounds fucking windy. It was about 15 to 18 crosswinds. You could tell that it wasn't the day to throw the football. And the Jets run game wasn't, you know. Existent. Exactly. Matt Jones did throw the football decent. I know, but.

What do you have like $240? Someone said very well. He threw for 23 for 27, 246 yards. Remember, Belichick deferred so he could choose which way he was going. And they were going with the wind in the fourth quarter so the wind would be against the Jets. And look, that's some of the genius shit

that Belichick does to fuck with rookie quarterbacks. You can actually see the trajectory of the ball. Okay, we joke about Zach Wilson not being a rookie quarterback, but calling him a rookie quarterback. You know that he's not a rookie. But like a young quarterback, sorry. He didn't play his whole first year.

Listen, I don't blame you what you're doing right now because you definitely have the cognitive dissonance. You're like lying to yourself. You don't want to admit that Zach Wilson is the root of all your problems right now. No, no, no, no, no, I think it might be Zach Wilson. It's probably Zach Wilson. What about the accountability part?

You know what makes me mad? Now, Billy's walking all around like Zach Wilson isn't the problem. Yeah, yeah, and the locker room is not happy about it. No, no, no, bro to bro. Bro to bro, whoa, whoa, whoa, are you bro to bro already? No, no, I'm bro to bro and Zach Wilson. Okay.

23 year olds in the workforce. You really sometimes even when you think that if you didn't throw any interceptions and just play conservative all game, like that would be happy with you, but you got to take accountability. So you did, when you came in, you're like he hasn't thrown any interceptions.

He did try to throw a few interceptions that were literally off of guys hands. That was the one that McCordy that he just threw at his chest and then McCordy dropped. And I'm going to, I'm going to, Billy, if you look at it, it was tip. Billy, I'm going to, I'm going to share, I'm going to be gracious towards you

because I actually understand exactly what you're going through and it sucks because the jets have a really good roster. Like their defense is awesome. And having to deal with the defense being awesome, running game being good. And then there's just one guy who's holding everything back.

It's the shittiest feeling in the world. I would say the only, the only plus side, like my comparison to 2018 bears, that bears defense was not like all young studs. So you at least, if the jets are smart and they're like, hey, we got to pull the rip the, rip the bandaid off now and try something different. Maybe, maybe you can salvage everything,

but it's bad, Billy. Zach Wilson, he ranks in passive rating. He's 33rd in completion percentage. He's 34th in past TD to interception. He's 32nd in past TD to attempts percentage. He's 32nd. The thing is the worst quarterback in the NFL right now. The thing is the ceiling is still there.

The sad dress of Wilson. Yeah. The ceiling is still there. In switching the quarterback halfway through, be it we take a guy who's behind him right now, or we go out and get someone, you're still going to have to go into the offense, get reps and still have this warmup period,

where if we're going to find someone who's going to play. Oh yeah. No, we're not saying that he's going to be taking out this year. No, that's not what we're saying. We're saying next year, like. Big Cat, let me ask you this. Do you think Joe Flacco wins this game?

I think Mike White might win this game. I think Joe Flacco wins this game. So I was going to be nice and say, I'm not calling for Zach Wilson to be benched. I'd like to see Flacco out there. I just, the problem with Zach Wilson is like he does, that report is very, like the fact that he sat up there and they're like, do you think that you're the reason

why he lost? That defense balled out, held him to three points. And he's like, no. Like, dude, if he played even C, D plus game, the Jets probably can win that game. Like they were in field goal range once. They had no drives. But you know, if the running game.

In the past missed two field goals. If the running game was there, it would have allowed him to get something else going. But him not turning the ball over. Yes, there was the tip that went right into McCoy's hands. But it's just more of, I think him against Belichick, right now in his stage of the career,

is the bigger road bump. So like for example, if you put Joe Flacco in, you'd probably perform better. But next week, the Joe Flacco versus Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson hasn't been good like in the other weeks. Right, but the arm talent, I know this sounds crazy, but I really think his ceiling's Patrick Malm's. Okay, yeah.

He just, I know that sounds crazy. Can we, I know that sounds crazy. I've been trying to, I got a bail. I got a bail. I still think he's stealing one. We need to. I'm gonna be like, I don't know what my crazy friend said. I don't know him.

Hey, you've leaked that out. I just, the ceiling is there. Billy, the ceiling is the floor. But we've seen, like basically we still, no matter what we do, we have to play in the rest. The ceiling is the seller. I agree with you. And I agree with you.

Like this is the hard part. And again, if you go back and listen to 2018 me, I was saying the same shit where I was like, I was trying to convince myself. It just sucks because you know that like, he's the guy who's holding everything back. And Joe Douglas and that team has put together a really good roster and that one piece is missing right now.

It's holding him back from winning games. Now I do, I do agree that with a high draft pick like that, you can't pull the cord entirely after two years. Like that, you need to give players time to develop. Some guys take longer than others to develop. But right now it's very, it's abundantly clear that if he is going to play like that, then he should probably be like,

yeah, I fucked that one up today. I know he needs to take accountability. Young people in the workforce bro to bro. Like sometimes you press a button you're not supposed to. And then you'd be like, how could this possibly be my fault? Why is there a button like this? But I'd be like, look, I should have pressed a button.

I should have pressed a button. Like to delete those three and a half hours of footage from today. Yeah, but also in the end, like all of Jets Twitter is ripping apart. Everyone's ripping. Well, rightfully so. Yeah, he's gonna probably be the starter next year too.

I'm just saying, unless something changes, he is the reason why you're losing these games. And he's the reason why a defense that could take them deep in the playoffs is not gonna go deep in the playoffs. And the coins. And the coins. And the coin.

The coin has it's losing next week. Congratulations. Oh, thank you. On your bears video. But then we go into five game win streak after that, so. And then you, and then. That's what we see. Okay, so sidebar big cat.

I actually think that Billy really believes in this coin. And that's why he's saying that, like he actually thinks that they're gonna go to the AFC championship game. No, so they're. Because the coin. He's like, Zach Wilson will prove that he's a playoff quarterback when he gets to the.

So he truly believes in the power of the coin. We're in store for a five game win streak after this bears game, where Zach Wilson is gonna show he is the guy. So we're just going off of the coins metrics. And it hasn't been wrong yet. Oh, what's up with Elijah Moore on that last kick return of the game?

I think. That to me looked like he was trying to lose on purpose. I don't want to agree with you because we tried to get him the ball this game. It didn't really work out. Well, if you can't get him the ball, was that Wilson? It was defined tried. Belichick knows the Foxborough weather.

Like he's got a farmer's almanac that knows. Now we're getting into like DARPA shit with. Yeah. Like he's creating weather. When he missed Braxton Berrios, who was standing like five feet away from him. Yeah, but you can see the ball. I mean, all of the Patriots miss kicks.

Like that was all during. I think the bigger problem was that at times Zach Wilson gets lost in the pocket. And he just, he gets dizzy and starts running backwards. Like he just did a dizzy bat race when there was a spin move. And he doesn't, like you've been one that's told us about this.

He doesn't run towards downfield. He doesn't run towards the opponent's end zone. He doesn't keep his eyes downfield. He steps backwards. What he should have done this game was in those situations, he should have been like, fuck it. I'm going to run my, I'm going to like be a workhorse and like be Justin Fields and just go get five yards.

Well, he's not Justin Fields. In terms of athleticism. But in terms of athleticism, but like go pick up the yards with your feet, put, try to earn your team's like respect by putting your body on a line and being a gamer and just like try to get his yards, not trying to be nice with it.

Just like, go get that five yards, go put your shoulder down and try to earn these guys. Yeah, he said he doesn't care about stats. That's the thing. He's like, I like, can he pick it? Can he pick it? Fuck and puts his shoulder down. And like five yards, he's, he, you know.

He's not a gamer. I think you're exactly right. Zach Wilson, you are too good looking to actually play like a pretty boy. But he is playing like a pretty boy. So you gotta fucking put your shoulder down. It also feels like sometimes he's playing like he's still at BYU and they're playing like Utah State.

Exactly. And it's like, this is not going to work because everyone is significantly faster and heavier and stronger. So when you spin, the end of the spin is a dude who's 300 pounds jumping on your back. Not the end of a spin is like, oh, you have 10 yards to walk around and then throw it deep.

That's the difference. I actually think that Billy's right. Like if the more good looking quarterback is, the more they're going to call you soft. If in fact you exhibit any sort of softness. Like Justin Harbert got to the league. Everybody's like, oh, soft Cali boy. But then he just started running people over

breaking his own rib. And they're like, okay, we like this guy. Yeah. Here's the good news, Billy. The Bears defense is terrible. The Bears, what are you, what are you shaking your head? Max is laughing, nothing, nothing. What?

He's like, I'm upset about the fumble. Max is just having a, laughing, having a great time. Oh, that. Ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the gun. I thought you were laughing at what BFD was saying. Ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the gun. Let's go Chargers. Oh man.

Hank, doesn't that stink to lose a bet and have someone smirk? Oh, it's disrespectful. It's fine. Oh, I love you. Sorry for that. I love you, Max. No, I mean, we've just been going in circles.

The end of the day, Zack Wilson is the problem. I still think the Jets are a very good team. And they will probably win. Next week, Billy, if Zack Wilson doesn't torch that Bears defense, like that will be a very big problem. Also, I think hopefully there's no wind. Also, he was so scared of throwing interceptions after the last game that when he was looking downfield,

he was hesitant. But that is like, if that's an actual thing, then he's just never going to be the guy. But I think it's more of the whole, the Belichick effect. I think it's, it was two in his mind. The New York media is cruel. Now don't blame Belichick. Don't just blame the coin.

That actually makes more sense than the other stuff that you're saying. OK, so Patriots are now, the Jets have just like, the AFC East is insane. Every team is good. And the Patriots are now in third. Ahead of the Jets who fall to the last place spot. All right, let's do some more.

Let's go to the next game, which actually is, there's a link between the Jets Patriots game and the Eagles Colts game, because the Eagles win 17-16. And it was the first time the Eagles have won, trailing by 10 points or more in the fourth quarter, since the 2010 to Sean Jackson walk-off punt return. Oh, that's crazy. Which was the first thing I thought of when the Patriots

returned, I was like, oh, Sean Jackson, miracle to Metal Land. So Eagles survive what looked like a game that they were going to lose, because they played sloppy. The Colts came out, kind of punched them in the mouth. And Jeff Saturday, Jeff Saturday is our NFL coach, they kept on showing clips of him doing push-ups and running around the stadium and all that stuff.

But the Eagles survive, and it feels like one of those gritty wins that you need if you're going to continue marching forward if you're the Eagles. Yeah, I mean, the Colts continued to do what I think Saturday is going to have them do, which is just be cover machines. And they played physically.

And I read that going into this game, that Saturday's emphasis this week was just doing one-on-one drills and just making everybody tougher, because we need to simplify everything. Football is a simple game. We make it complicated sometimes. So he's just having them just work out, just get stronger, and then everybody will be better at their job.

And so I got fucked up going into this game, because it was a roof bet. It was a roof bet. And Jim Ursay pulled the biggest of all okey dokes. I felt targeted by it, actually. He tweeted out that the roof was going to be open on Sunday. And Jeff Saturday had had the boys training outside in the snow.

And then five minutes later, he put a psych on me and said, no, we're closing the roof. It was brutal. I can't help but think that had some to do with the loss today. But no, I actually do think that the Colts are going to continue to be super physical. Maybe not the most electric team. Probably won't put up the most points.

But they're not going to roll over for anybody like they were before. First, opening drive TD the Colts have had since Christmas of 2021. So that's, I mean, right there, they're showing competency that they haven't shown this entire season. And it does feel like they're just playing a little bit harder, more disciplined.

They still have huge flaws. Their offense, after that opening drive, they basically did nothing. The longest drive they had was 34 yards after that. So Matt Ryan still looks like a giant target back there. Right. And Jonathan Taylor, I mean, the Eagles defense actually deserves a lot of credit, because they got gashed

on Monday Night Football against the commanders. They got gashed in the opening drive. And then their run defense kind of stepped up, you know, nutted up and played really good for the rest of the game. And outside of the fumbles that they've had and the costly penalties, they were able to right the ship in the second half. Comeback win.

Jalen hurts. Comeback makes the big plays with his feet. I don't know. I feel like this is one of those games that like the Colts, or sorry, if the Eagles had lost, I've been like, uh-oh. There's something wrong. And now I'm looking at it, which is stupid, because it's all reactionary, being like,

that's just a hard-nosed win, that you've got to learn how to win those type of games if you're going to have, you know, Super Bowl aspiration. It definitely makes you feel better if you're an Eagles fan after that game. But still, I think there's some serious, there's some issues. I mean, the fumbles, like they had another one where, I mean,

Ajay Brown had got punched out, but still like the costly turnovers, the costly penalties, like it feels like. Well, their offense just also doesn't look as dynamic as it was. Yeah, they just run the ball. Yeah, it looks a little like they're playing with cement shoes on. I didn't realize that Siriani was so emotionally attached

to Frank Reich, and that this had become a personal revenge game for him. I knew that they were boys, but I didn't realize, like, after the game, he was like screaming at Colts fans, being like, you know, that's for firing my boy. And then in his press conference, he said, you don't want to know what I think if he should be here or not. You guys can probably imagine what I really think.

It was sweet to come here, especially with what happened in this organization the last couple of weeks, and get a win. I'm emotional because I love Frank Reich. He's one of the best damn football coaches I've ever been around. I was hoping he and I could coach against each other in this game. So he was like really pissed off about it. Like, it was actually, in fact, personal for Nick Siriani.

I think Nick Siriani is just like a very emotionally available guy. He is. He wears his heart on his sleeve. It feels like he's always in the middle of having a temper tantrum slash cry fest. Yeah. It's just always there.

It's kind of like when Max roots for the Eagles. Yeah. And he actually does look like he's going to cry because he's so excited. Right. And he's saying said and he's just screaming shit. Max, how do you feel about this win? This was a gutsy win.

I feel good. It was obviously a roller coaster of emotions. After the first drive, I was like, this run defense is done. There's no way we're going to be able to stop anybody. We have Aaron Jones coming up and then Derek Henry right after. And I was like, we're going to lose every single one of these games because we can't stop a single person on the run. And then out of nowhere, we just flipped the script

and defense tightened up and everything looked good on the defensive side of the ball. And then the offense went stale. But at the end of the day, it was nice to see. You have a drive to win the game. And Siriani put the ball in jail and hurts. Every big play was like, Hertz, you're going to go get these yards.

You're going to go get these yards. And it's nice to see your quarterback be put in those situations and be outman, outman the other guy. Are you a little worried about Nick Siriani doing the trying to get them off sides? No one has ever been bailed out harder. Ever. So for people who didn't watch the game,

there was a minute and I think 40 seconds left. Or no, it was actually the two-minute warning. Right after the two-minute warning. So there's two minutes left. The Eagles had two timeouts. And it was fourth and two on the eight yard line. And so you're thinking to yourself, they got to obviously convert this.

But if they don't, they still will have, I don't know, like 30 seconds left or whatever it may be. And Nick Siriani has the guys go to the line, look like they're about to kneel down or do a quarterback dive. The quarterback sneak, but it was like from the two and a half. They needed two and a half yards. Right. And the way they were set up was actually more in the victory

formation. They had like two guys behind them that were facing jail and hurts. Right. So then they call a timeout. So now they have one timeout. So basically, if they don't get the fourth and two, the game is over and it's a jail and hurts sneak,

where it looked like he was stopped and then he gets it. They win the game. But yeah, that would have been a situation where Nick Siriani would have had some tough, tough questions. He also had to drive, which I was baffled by, where they got the ball on, I don't know, their own like 15. And he just ran the ball up the middle three times and punted. It was like in the third quarter.

And it feels like, it feels like something about the play calling, like what's going on. You screamed at me from the cave about the drive. I made you come in because I was going to be mad at you. It was like we have eight different. Get the camera on yourself, Max. We have eight different TVs on. And it was one of those things where it was,

we got the ball back. I was like, all right, let's go on a drive. Look over at another TV for a second. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? We're punting. And then you were just like, they just ran three times right into the middle. I was pissed.

And I needed you to sit next to me so I could blame it. And guess what? I didn't even bet on the Eagles in that game. This is where the Super Bowl future actually pays off that I feel invested game by game, being like the one seeds on the line. So you're off the hook. I think on those play calls, it wasn't so much about the play

call itself, but I think they were all read options. I think that Hertz was misreading the read option a lot today, which is, I don't know if it was something different that the that the Colts were doing, that they weren't expected for, but he was like consistently making the wrong decision on whether to keep it or whether to hand it off. It just brought their entire offense to a standstill.

Luckily, I think, I think endemic and Sue might work out. I think I am involved just in what I didn't realize they got to. I think endemic and Sue might still be a fucking monster. And they still get Jordan Davis back when, when Sue tackles somebody, it looks like a crime. It looks violent. He tackles people in ways that you don't necessarily see coming or other people do.

It looks like a small car crash. Yes, yes. Yeah, it was it was weird seeing him out there. It was like, oh, shit. Yeah, he is he is back. What was he wearing? Seventy four. Seventy four. Yeah, that's it looks big.

That's an offensive line. That's a bad number. Yeah. That's a very bad number, but it makes him look big, though. Like a chunky boy. All right. So last thing I had about this game, I think it should just be a rule in the world that if you cry, basically cry on TV, you can't just pretend it didn't happen and reverse your ways.

I'm talking about Bill Cower. Bill Cower said today before, I think it was in the pregame and at halftime, he said, you can see the immediate impact of Jeff Saturday on this cults team. Bill Cower, you cried last week because you cried. You cried in front of us. It's like the fucking it's like the Mark Brunel, like Mark Brunel. I remember when you cried,

like you can't cry on national television. They just be like, no, that wasn't me. I didn't cry last week. Yeah, he did cry. And I believe he said it's a disgrace to the coaching profession. He listed guys that were on that staff. He listed Gus Bradley. I don't know if Bill Cower has ever watched the NFL.

Yeah, Gus Bradley had a pretty good shot at being a head coach. I think he had four years. I think he averaged like three wins a season. I think we have a pretty good idea what Gus Bradley can do. And he lists John Fox. He listed John Fox, who's been who has been in the NFL for 40 years. Yeah, and he's had more than enough chances. Got a good idea. I think Bill Cower just got mad because his buddies didn't get a job.

Right. And he I know he didn't actually there weren't actual tears, but he cried because you could see like it. You could hear in his voice and they did the thing that I love whenever we get serious tone on on these pregame shows, because it basically was like most of these pregame shows. It's like you say something for 30 seconds. You say something for 30 seconds. Terry Bradshaw last, you know, kicked, kicked to Chris, right?

This was like two and a half minutes of Bill Cower just getting the camera and nothing else. Like everyone was sitting there doing their hmm. Yeah. Good point. Good point, coach. Good point, coach. You cry. That's a cry speech. And then you pretended it didn't happen when it goes to the solo shot on you. And you're not you're talking to the camera because sometimes guys get little

monologues where they get to talk about some that's important to them. But they always do the weird thing where they reach out and they like touch. They touch the person's arm in the middle of it. They're like, listen, I think it just got a great defense now this year, but they got to figure out an offense and then they reach out and touch each other back. This was just like Bill Cower. He didn't cry, but his chin started to quiver a little bit. Yeah. No, it was again, it was a cry.

It was a I don't even think Bill Cower can produce tears. Actually, no, he is a cry coach. He definitely is a cry coach. Oop, Chargers just scored much time. The clock for too much time on the clock for Patrick Holmes to tweet that. But yeah, it was I just was shocked. I was shocked that Bill Cower thought he could get away with just saying you can see the impact that Jeff said. You made it take.

Just own it. That's why you were wrong. You cried. You can't take those tears back. I actually think that that Jim Ursay is a secret genius for hiring Jeff Saturday because it turns out Jim Ursay was right that he doesn't have all the baggage that comes along with being an NFL head coach where you're afraid of stuff. So it's like, yeah, just hire more. I actually bet that if you had a competent offensive coordinator

and defensive coordinator, you could just hire straight up a raw guy that didn't necessarily have any experience coaching, but was like the ultimate motivator to Gary V. Yeah. Imagine Gary V. As an NFL head coach, quarterback would be pretending they they kill it, kill themselves every morning. The quarterback would be playing like it was literally their last chance to do anything, kill your whole family every morning when you're in the shower.

I think Gary V would be a competent head coach if he had a good offensive staff around him. It is true, though, that there's there is something to be said that Jeff Saturday does not care like he obviously cares that he wants. He wants to win, but it's not like his entire profession, his entire what he's worked for is this moment. And if he fails, it's like, oh, my God, what am I going to do? He's just going to go back to TV.

So he's fine. He's easy. But yeah, the Colts are officially one of the friskiest teams in the end. I feel like they're not going to win a lot of games. They're going to be in every game. I'm going to stick betting on Jeff Saturday until he proves me wrong. Yeah. Monday football against the Steelers coming up. All right. Before we get to the next game, a quick word from our friends at Cors Light.

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Perfect time for Cors Light. OK, Bill's 31 Browns, 23 in Detroit. The thunder snow. We got to see all the videos. It was like extracting Marines from a hostile area when we got to see all these videos of Bill's players finding a way out of Buffalo. I actually think that this game ball goes to Bill's fans.

Yes. Because we had Bill's fans that would just show up. I guess they just know where the Bill's live in their neighborhood. Well, I think it's just right down the street, yeah. Yeah, everybody lives probably in the same neighborhood. So they showed up, dug them out of their own driveways. And it was no joke. It was probably like, I don't know, four, five, six feet of snow.

And shout out to the weather people out there. The meteorologist got it right. When I saw six feet of snow, it was like, this is going to be like maybe six inches. Right. Like, trust me, I know a lot of times when people say it's going to be six feet, it's quite a bit under six feet. Right.

But in this case, it was actually accurately predicted by the weather people. Six feet of snow and part of Buffalo. And then the north side of town, I think, got like nothing. Yeah, no, that's how it works in Buffalo. You can basically live in a different place where half the team just didn't have to deal with anything. The other half had to deal.

Who was it? The offensive lineman, that the video that went viral of him opening up the garage door and his dog just having to take a piss and being like nowhere to go. Just absolutely nowhere to go. It was fucking insane. So yeah, the bills got there. They stupid on the on Dawkins stupid us.

We should have had like a little bit of foresight. And I know this is hindsight is 20, 20, but long week for the bills, getting there was very difficult. All these pressures like you have to worry about your family being snowed in all these things and they came out flat. Like they look like shit for the first quarter. And the and the Browns do what the Browns do in the first quarter. They always have a great scripted drive where you're like, wow,

the Browns look good today. Yeah. And then the bills basically so the first quarter, they went 15 yards for three points. The next three quarters, they went 342 yards for 28 points. So the bills, like there was a moment in time on Sunday where I was like, are the bills and Eagles both bad? And then they both kind of righted the ship and the bills,

especially so their offense looked great. And that last drive in the first half and it was like, yeah, they're back. So bad news for the AFC because the bills figured out how to run the football. Yeah. And so that's that's that's a nice, that's a nice little wrinkle that they don't have to depend on Josh Allen to be like a superhero.

And basically like Robocop and run people over all the time. They can now actually just hand the ball off and control the clock that way, which their defense has got to be pretty excited about not having to be out on the field all the time. Big time. And it just it gives them a different look. And so defenses can't do the thing that they've been doing against Josh Allen, which is trying to take it away.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't if he doesn't run you over. But this is a big win, I think, for the bills because it was a weird week for them. Yeah. It was very weird. It was a really strange week. I think it just cements that they're I'm not

pressing the panic button. No, I mean, we're getting close to talking about the panic button for the bills. But last week was kind of a flukey loss at the very end. And this week, it just kind of proved that the bills are they're legit and also credit to Stefansky for actually just running the football, even when they're getting their ass kicked.

Yeah. Later on. Oh, yeah. And the bills, that was the other part. The bills ran the ball and they stopped the run. Yeah. Like they Nick Chubb had had 14 carries for 19 yards. Yeah.

That's pretty hard to do against one of the best running backs in the NFL. And yeah, the bills, I do, I agree. I don't think the panic button was ready. If they had lost this game, it definitely would have been because it would have been three in a row and everything looks bad. Now they have a short week.

I assume like they should just stay in Detroit. I don't know if they are. Well, Jared, Jared is laying his house out. Right. We've linked that up. And so now they have another chance like against the lion's team that's starting to look decent to basically like if you can,

if you can win the Sunday, Thursday, combo, it feels like you've won four games in a row. Yeah. Because you win games that, and especially this Sunday at noon, like what we're sorry, Thursday at noon, like they will win. If they can beat the Lions on Thanksgiving Day, they'll have won two games in what feels like two days.

Yeah. Then you get the minibuy after that. Yeah. And you're good to go. Yeah. The bills, I still think the bills are the team to beat in the FC right now. Yeah.

Well, the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes is just, he's stupid. And they fumbled. He is dumb. He's stupid in just how good he, that throw he made tonight where the guy was completely covered and he basically turned around and the ball was just in his hands. Like he just makes throws that are absolutely insane.

This game is pretty good. Should we, should we talk about this game? Yeah, let's discuss. All right, one last thing with the Bills-Browns. As we wait for the Chiefs Chargers to come back on. Sports Illustrated tweeting, Amari Cooper is him after he scored the first touchdown of the game. That's it.

It's over. I know you said you had a point in like the week three when someone did something, but like calling Amari Cooper him for scoring in the first five minutes of the Bills-Browns game in week 11 for a Browns team that has three wins. That's it. No more. Anyone can be him.

No more. Even Amari Cooper. Yeah. For me, it was that it was during the Eagles Vikings game, the Monday Night Football game. And it was like, who is more him? Stefan Diggs or Jalen Hertz. When I heard somebody say, oh, and that's the game.

Chiefs just scored a touchdown. Too much time for Justin Herbert. This is Patrick Mahomes is so fucking ridiculous. I'm mad that Kansas City Chiefs fans get Patrick Mahomes and I don't. It's not fair. It's not. It's actually not fair.

Every team should get Patrick Mahomes to play for them. Could you imagine going into every Sunday and being like, well, like even if we suck, like Mahomes will figure it out. That's what they get to do. Yeah. Every Sunday. Like the Chiefs fumble the ball with two and a half

or four minutes left. The Chargers go down, score, take the lead. There's a minute and a half left and it wasn't even a question. It wasn't even a question. I bet you if you put Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback for every team that was losing at the start of the fourth quarter, those teams would end up winning like 80% of the time. Yeah.

It's crazy. It's not fair. It's not fair Chiefs fans get to root for for this long and like how good he is. That's all I got about it. No, I mean, I'm upset. I'm very upset with him. Anything else from this game while we talk about it?

I mean, the Chargers did look good. Justin Herbert did look awesome, but it's like the most typical Chargers game of all time. Yeah, Kels is a beast. Kidarius Tony out in the second half with I think a hamstring injury. Basically, Kidarius Tony is out in the second half with being Kidarius Tony.

Correct. But this is the perfect Chargers game where you even had Mike Williams and Keenan Allen come back. Mike Williams then went out with an injury. They looked great coming out of the game. Like, oh, shit, the Chargers are going to beat the Chiefs. I feel like we've watched this Chargers game 100 times. Justin Herbert makes a few wow throws.

You get tantalized by how good the Chargers could be. Yes. Yes, you come out of the game even if they lose. Yeah. The Chargers are good. The Chargers, I believe, in this Chargers team. Brandon Staley. I'm surprised he didn't try to do this on that last drive.

Well, there are three timeouts, you should say. The Chargers have three timeouts with 31 seconds left. On that last drive. They have Dicker the kicker. And they have Dicker the kicker. On that last drive, I would think Brandon Staley would be the guy that would do a time-wasting thing and take it down to the last three seconds of the game

and then give his guys a shot to just run the ball into the end zone to win the game. So there's actually not any time on the clock for Patrick Mahomes. You're basically playing against two people at that point, Patrick Mahomes and also the clock. And so Staley, he needs to figure out, because it does feel like this happens to the Chargers

all the time. All the time. All the time. And this will probably, like, yep, the sack. So there goes one timeout. I bet you they're going to get, like, one big throw and maybe even a fumble, like a big throw where the guy's just running down the sideline.

Looks like he's going to win the game and he just fumbles. He's like, oh, Chargers could have won that game. They're the most frustrating team ever. Yeah. They might be. Well, because they always have the heavy burden of expectations on them. And they also have, they have a reasonably fun team.

Like, they have guys that are fun to watch, like Austin Neckler's fun to watch, Bosa's fun to watch. They just, Derwin James, when he's playing, like fun to watch, Justin Herbert throwing lasers. And it just never materializes into wins. Yeah, Keenan Allen, I think, is the most underrated wide receiver in the NFL. Anyone says, like, oh man, if the Chargers had gotten

into the playoffs, watch out for them. No, not watch out for them. They would have gotten in the playoffs and lost by three. In a game they were winning. That's how every Chargers game goes. Herbert. Oh, that should. And that's an interception game over.

OK. Oh, the Chiefs win. Chiefs are the best team in the NFL. I'm confident in saying that. I still. Anyone want to say anything to the contrary? I still like the Bills. The Bills are just as, they're like one little notch

in terms of how they're playing right this second. Because obviously the Bills went to Kansas City and beat them. But in fact, I just feel like the Chiefs have had, I don't know, they just, they're just so fucking good. My home's is so goddamn good. It's so consistently good. I need the Bills to host the AFC Championship game. That's what I need.

I think that's what I'd like. When Pete Josh Allen doing his Josh Allen stuff can beat Patrick Mahomes. In Buffalo with that crowd. But if it's a little less than Pete, Patrick Mahomes is so consistently great that it's like Chiefs don't matter what. Yep.

OK. Anything from that game, Hank? You're not happy. I was shocked when you told me that you didn't take the dog. Oh, it wouldn't have mattered. Yeah. Well, the dog covered. I would have.

Yeah, but I don't know how to do that. Yeah, you do money like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, spreads don't matter. No. Yeah. Nord is weather. Yeah, Nord is weather. OK, so anything else?

Bills, Browns. No, the Bills are back. The Browns suck. They're just waiting for Deshaun Watson. It's going to be really awkward when he comes in. So we got what? One more week? Yeah.

One more week and he's back. It's going to be very awkward for everybody. It's going to be, are we just going to pretend like everything's cool? I think so. OK. I think that's. I'm down.

As long as we're all on the same page. I think that's just what we've all just, yeah. Yeah, I'm just going to be like, OK. I don't really know what is pervert. Yeah, we're going to make fun of them. Yeah. And we're going to remind people he's a pervert. But yeah, I don't know.

I'm not going to stop watching the NFL. So this is kind of a moral crisis we're dealing with here. If we really want to dig deep down. You could put anything we'll get us to stop watching the NFL. No, you could put if Putin was a quarterback. I would do it on Sunday. He would put on numbies. He would, yeah.

He'd be afraid to tackle. Air raid. Air raid poops. I mean, have you seen him on the rink? Yeah, he's a beast. But yeah, I think that's kind of why Roger Goodell gets to do whatever he wants. Because he knows idiots like us are like, we could talk a game.

Dude, we're going to watch the game. They could have to Sean Watson play a game in like Sweden at seven o'clock in the morning. And I'm tuning. I'm I'm DVRing. Oh, shit. I'm watching the all 22 after it's up there. Yeah, first game in Sweden.

I wonder what the Sweden national anthem is going to look like. It'd be amazing. The pageantry would be incredible. See, we're talking about before the show. Your fandom is going to be tested this week because you have the 3 AM Thursday game. That's true. And Carter.

Oh, yeah. The whole like Middle East time. That's something I'm not even prepared for. It's Vikings, I believe. You should just stay on our time. I might actually. That's kind of what I did when I was in Hong Kong. Yeah, it's going to be it's going to be a mental battle for me,

for sure. I think my plan is I just get up in the middle of the night. I go to take a piss and I check the score and then I fall back asleep. That's the plan right there. Yeah, that's good. That's actually sounds like a perfect plan. Yeah.

Commanders, Texans, Commanders 23, Texans 10, PFT. Taylor Heinecke is good and the Commanders are good. I think they're going to make the playoffs. They could. It's tough to say because we're playing as the Texans. Yeah, but I think they're going to make the playoffs. I'll give you the I want to hear what you have to say about the game, but I'll give you the path.

Yeah, so I know that we have a path, for sure. Yeah, because we have to beat the Giants. If you beat the Giants, the last we have to beat the Falcons. We have to beat the Giants. If either the Giants sweep the Commanders, the Commanders sweep the Giants, the winner of those two games is going to go. Yeah.

That's pretty much how it's going to shake out. Yeah, so I did not realize this, but this is the first time under Ron Rivera that the Commanders have had a winning record, like after week two. Whoa. So that's kind of crazy, even when we made the playoffs. We were like six and nine, then I think we were like five

and maybe even five and nine, six and nine, then seven and nine. Do you remember that game against the Eagles to end the season? Yes. Where they put in Nate Sudfeld? So we've never had a winning record under him before. So this is kind of foreign territory.

Taylor Heineke continues to, I think now he actually might have the best record of any starting quarterback on the Commanders in their history under Dan Snyder besides Alex Smith. I think he's now surpassed Kirk Cousins. So he looks good. He does everything right. I think that he's what this team needs

because obviously whatever it was that Carson Wentz was bringing the table from like an emotional standpoint, wasn't really working. But the way that Heineke plays, I think he's the rear guy that people do play better around him. Like if Zach Wilson had like a 10th of the dog, that Taylor Heineke had in him, then the Jets would be in a much, much better place right now.

And we get Chase Young back next week, which I'm excited about, but I'm also a little apprehensive about because their defensive line is kicking ass right now. And we're doing it without Chase Young. Just bring him in for third down. And also Chase Young, he just looks awesome on the sidelines as the cheerleader. Yeah.

He's really, he finds his way into like every group on the sidelines always hyping everybody up. He's always got a cool hat on. He just, he seems like a good teammate to have like full-time cheerleader on the sidelines. But he's also a pretty good football player. So I'm pumped to get him back out there. But I do think it's like, I think it's like 60-40

that we make the playoffs now. I do too. In my own brain. I, six and five, I did the little calculus in my head. If you even split the Giants, went against the Falcons, went against the Giants, lost against the Giants, lost against the 49ers, went against the Browns, lost against Cowboys.

You'd be nine and eight. I think nine and eight is going to probably get that seven spot. If unless, like, unless like the Seahawks and the 49ers, that's the only thing, get to nine and 10 wins, I think nine and eight would get you. And then if you beat the Giants, if you could beat the Giants who are fading and we'll talk about them next, you would, you would almost assuredly get in the playoffs.

Yeah. If you go two and all against the Giants. It's kind of a weird position to be in. I don't really know. I don't know how to handle myself. And crazy. The team starting to like come together and play exciting football right as Dan Snyder is stepping away from the,

I don't think that's a coincidence at all. I think, I think that it kind of like lifted a little bit of a weight. Like it did for me as a fan, I'll tell you straight up. But also like for the team, I actually think that it does make a difference. I think it's like, okay, we don't have to deal with this massive distraction all the time in the future. Let's just worry about playing football. I just dawned on me that there is not, I wouldn't say a good chance,

but there's a chance that in this room, I'm the only one who doesn't make the playoffs. I just realized that. Oh man. That would suck. I would like someone to join me. That would be. And not making the playoffs. That would be awful.

The Jets, you point to the Jets. All right. So as long as someone, so that I'm not the guys, like everyone else got their fucking big playoff game and I'm just sitting there like, well, this fucking sucks. I'm starting to run into an existential crisis with a running back position because I do love Brian Robinson and the story that he's had this year. But also Antonio Gibson just seems like a much more dynamic running back at times. Like Brian Robinson is great when he's just running into people's faces.

That's pretty cool. But Antonio Gibson, he can get, you know, 12, 13 yards at a clip. But on the other hand, it's like, I don't want to root against the guy that got shot. Right. You know? That's what's in my mind. Here's how you got to. Here's how you got to do it in your mind.

Brian Robinson softens up the defense because he just mashes them and then Antonio Gibson gets easier. It's the old thunder and lightning. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I like that. Our Eaton run. That was the Lindale White and Chris Johnson.

Yeah. Best defensive or best running back, backfield, nickname of all time. Brian Robinson is basically loosening up the jar. Yeah. Antonio Gibson to open it up and be like, look, that was easy. Smash and dash. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Okay. No, that's good. I feel better about that now. There's a place for both these guys. Yeah, there is. And the Texas just suck. Davis Mills.

Oh my God. Jets would not be in the playoffs as of right now. If the season ended now, Cincinnati would be seven. New England six. Well, the commanders wouldn't be in right now either. Right. I'm just saying like there's a world where enough things can happen where like all your teams are very much alive and, you know, obviously Max and Jake are more than alive.

So yeah, Max is definitely going to make the playoffs. I think you're definitely going to make it. You two. I'm not so sure about you two. Yeah. Hank and Billy. You two. You two.

You two. I don't know what's going to happen with y'all, but your teams, they could go either way. Coins. Coins as we make it. That's right. I forgot about the coin. So all this talk about the playoffs is making me terrified as a commander's fan. So let's just say I'm optimistic right now.

Left hand is firmly raised and I'm just happy to be here. Yeah. And having a winning record and Taylor Heineke and people are asking questions about like Taylor. Is he the guy for the rest of the season? Rivera said yes, he's which makes makes complete sense and it makes also like a world of difference like knowing that you don't have to like that credit to Ron Rivera. You don't have to play this stupid game of like, Oh, Carson Wentz.

He is technically like, you know, the first round draft pick and gets paid a lot of money. We got to play him. No, no. Taylor Heineke's team. Yeah. They had to have a word with Heineke because he got caught drinking beer on the airplane on the way back last week. And so they I think they find him.

I think guys should be allowed to drink beer on the airplane. Titans offensive coordinator. Okay. I think I think you should be allowed to drink beer on the airplane as long as you promise not to drive after. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

We're all adults here, right? Yeah. You're going to make me fly sober after I just played an NFL game and won. Yeah. That's that's a coordinator guy, DUI for people who don't know after the win against the Packers. Yeah. But I think that's that's cruel and unusual punishment. If you just won a Monday night football game, you should be allowed to have a six pack of

beer. Yeah. We're all adults, right? This is America. I thought this was America. Yeah. Yeah. It's true.

This is America. I don't. This has nothing to do with anything, but the can't lose parlay cash for the four straight week. Congratulations. That's a hungry dog. Oh, no. No.

I was choosing. I was going to take one today. I chose a hungry dog. And I was like in that split second. Damn. Let me stop being a bitch and take both. Yeah. Wow.

I do. I responsibly take one parlay. Okay. Nice. Yeah. The Texans. Oh, last thing I wanted to say about the tech or the commander, your karma is going to come for you.

The fuck is that supposed to mean? You just you win a couple can't lose parlors. And then all of a sudden. I won four row. I can't. I would love to go to last year when Hank was like, I'm the best gambler in the world. I didn't see that hungry dog. Cashed again.

You were. Oh, yeah. You were jealous. No, no, no. I watched you. You listen. If I didn't say big cat has the can't lose parlay one. Yeah, you wouldn't have.

Oh, yeah. You always did. I didn't rub it in your face. I didn't say big. I was last time. Can't lose parlay one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah. You didn't say that. You didn't say that. I get angry all of a sudden. I'm sorry. You got angry all of a sudden. God, I did. I wanted to do more than half a week.

And you can't lose parlay one because I know it wouldn't have. Oh yeah, you always did. I didn't rub it in your face. I didn't say big. That was last time we can't lose parlay one. You said. It's just funny how you win like two in a row. And all of a sudden.

Four. All of a sudden. ones in hit well no but that also oh really that was a winner that was a winner and just is there yeah is there any way that you could be more like us I bet the hungry dog every week and we're due okay plus 15 hundred saying that I think you've changed tank I think your methodology's changed now I mean next week will be in Hoboken so I feel much better about it okay yeah that will change everything oh what does it say the commanders this was actually like a

classic letdown spot yeah where it the Texans are dog shit but the commanders just beat the last undefeated team in the NFL on Monday football huge win then they have to go back on the road to Houston short rest I like you get credit in my mind for for not falling for those flat spots there are certain things that you have to check off to be able to consider yourself a good team one would be like a statement when yeah which is what we had last week and then the next one is blowing out a team that you're supposed to blow out right and we just blew the Texans right we just we just went down there and we went down and we

blew them yep and so that's what we had to do checked that one off the list I think the next one is when a scrappy divisional game so that would be the Giants game yep and again now I don't know what I can talk myself into for the Falcons game this week but that's the next one on the list that I feel like to take that step to becoming an actual good team you have to do yes I like that that's actually a good like follow follow this these these rules here and you can model yeah good okay next up Lions Giants Lions 31 Giants 18 I'd like to apologize to Dan Campbell I was I wasn't calling for his job but I was saying

his job might be in jeopardy I don't think that's the case anymore three in a row first time since 2017 he follows up his first road victory as a head coach by winning his next road game the next week and the Lions they're back to like the scrappy Lions they've won three in a row they have a huge game against the bills like just think about this for a second if the Lions somehow beat the bills on Thanksgiving Day what that's gonna be holy shit what's up with his Lions team like this Lions team might be they could they could somehow get into playoffs with the NFC the bottom the NFC is that is that bad what's the favorable

schedule to yeah what's the Lions recent record on Thanksgiving how you how used to Lions fans like are they are they used to winning on Thanksgiving I want to say they beat the Bears a couple years ago we feel like the Bears played them so many times the last five years because I would just like to know what it's like being a Lions fan and what your Thanksgiving Daniel beat them though what that entire like setup is like for you guys your traditions on Thanksgiving do you eat before you watch the game do you get do you get up early and get drunk before and then eat afterwards do you have a big breakfast a

Thanksgiving breakfast how do you the whole Thanksgiving situation Detroit it's always watch it with the game I think they eat Thanksgiving dinner with the game on as they're watching yeah okay they take a nap in the second half it was their first three game winning streak since 2017 yep that the Lions are on right now they're definitely back to being frisky and it was a double win today because the Rams continue to lose so their draft pick keeps increasing yeah so that the draft pick that they got in exchange for it was the Stafford Jerry golf trade yep so as Stafford continues to not play it turns out it actually

helps the Lions continue to improve their position for the future Jamal Williams has been a beast recently three touchdowns today 64 yards it's it was the lowest yardage for any three touchdown player this season that's kind of cool it's a cool stat it actually reminded me that Jerome Betis game and I looked it up and I forgot how crazy his stat line it was it like four yards Jerome Betis had five attempts for three touchdowns and one yard oh yeah that's right 2004 that's incredible which is I think the best stat line of any player I loved playing Madden with the bus yeah just running over people yep what do you got

Jake I know we lost once to them 2016 was the last one that was a four game winning streak 13 who'd they beat the Bears the Vikings oh did they not beat the Bears in 14 14 that's right and then we beat them what 18 no yes 19 19 okay I just wonder if like the city of Detroit has sadness from a Lions loss baked into their Thanksgiving like they're kids that probably grow up in Detroit that hate Thanksgiving yeah because they're like I have to watch the Lions lose yeah although I think that's just same old Lions like just Sunday it's yeah it becomes it's almost actually probably better because then you

have Sunday off no but it kind of ruins Thanksgiving for everybody no but I'm saying the the Lions have been so and I don't want to make this about the because it is big that they want in there they look like like they're actually building something but the Lions are are so bad and have been so bad that I don't think losses can affect Lions fans the same way they affect other fan bases anymore like it's almost like you're just a resting this is what it is I just think that it would be like adding a tradition to Thanksgiving where somebody would just come over to your house and kicking the balls yeah yeah I mean it's

just but it that you get kicked the balls every Sunday anyway yeah so it's true just another day like the last time they want to play off game was what 1991 yeah it's just so I just I think it's another day at the getting kicked in the balls factory yeah I think they're almost like I and I don't want to speak for all Lions fans but I bet there's like a general like well we just kind of expect that this is gonna we want them to be good yeah but we also you can't you can't get your hopes up every single year after a certain amount of years just like this this is just this is what it is and now they're in a place where again

they could get their hopes up because they've won three in a row and they're playing the Bills and if they win this game who the fuck knows the Lions would be like holy shit like what are they putting together here so I was impressed by them because they it wasn't it wasn't really even close like their defense got Daniel Jones to turn the ball over which that's more on Daniel Jones but Aiden Hutchinson looks awesome like that was you want to see those type of games you got back-to-back weeks with with interceptions where it's like oh yeah this is we made the right choice he's got as many interceptions as sauce

Gardner wow fascinating wow that is fascinating a defensive player the work of the year Aiden Hutchinson is yeah you have a lot of things that you can be happy about if you're Lions fan the defense is probably the big one because it's turned around since it's by which it's turned completely around and they're awesome against the run today yeah and we were talking about sake one and we're like oh sake one's got at the time it was like seven attempts for nine yards and the the strategy was sake ones you just keep feeding him if you're the Giants and eventually he's gonna break one and that never happened today right

they just they they kept them bottled up today they did a great job against Daniel Jones so yeah the offense is going to be your offense is fine the Lions have a good offense but if the defense can even start to play like consistently mediocre maybe even a little bit better than mediocre yeah yeah the Lions could be they are a fun team but they could be actually good and they they actually so that I think their bye week was after the Patriots game where they lost 29 and nothing and then they played the Cowboys which remember watching that game it was a one-score game in the fourth quarter yeah they played the

Dolphins to a four-point game which everyone gives up points to the Dolphins shut down the Packers the Bears was a shootout when that game and then they shut down the Giants so yeah they're they've it feels like they've turned a corner a little bit and Daniel Jones for the Giants side of it this does feel like the air coming out of the balloon a little bit for the Giants because even last week when they beat the Texans watching that game it was like the Texans are losing this game the Giants aren't winning this game like in the fact that the Texans just kept on getting close to them throwing picks or not

converting for for scores and now the the reverse of what the Lions have the Lions have basically a Thanksgiving Day game that could change like everything for the positive the Giants have a Thanksgiving Day that could change everything for the negative because they have to go to Dallas and if they get killed in that game now you're starting to like have some good long looks in the mirror of a tough schedule down the stretch where you start seven and two and it's like you're basically clinging on hoping to get to nine wins and get into the playoffs yeah the the two games against the commanders have become like

those were those are wins earlier in the season yeah had penciled in now those are like question they might have flipped the other one and then everything then you don't know what to believe anymore and it sucks for Giants fans that you had like if they don't make the playoffs it's going to be cruel because if you had said to the Giants fans before the season like let's say they finished nine and eight and missed the playoffs if you said you finished nine and eight and missed the playoffs you'd be like that's awesome we're in like that's great year one table this team is not very good because it's not a very good team but

the fact they started seven and two if they now missed the playoffs now it's it's a cruel twist of how the schedule worked and how they started the season it was awesome though when they applauded for Kenny Galladay who made a catch today that was very and the crowd just went ape shit for them they couldn't believe it it was great it was a nice it was a touching tribute to him yeah if you're the Giants you at least have some things you can point at if they if they end up going off the rails a little bit maybe they squeak into the playoffs get blown out maybe they don't make the playoffs you're still in a

good spot as a Lions fan because you have I think fixable issues yeah I think you just get you have to get some weapons on offense you have to have people that can catch the ball and then run with a football down the field yeah that's those guys you can find and they're out there a couple defensive I mean like the Aidan Hutchinson if he is the player that he looked like today and his look like in the last couple weeks like if you have one of the impact edge rushers in the NFL everything becomes easier everything becomes easier yeah like everything works a lot easier when you have that one guy who like a

TJ Watt we talked about the Steelers and what TJ Watt means to that Steelers defense Aidan Hutchinson obviously isn't TJ Watt yet but like that's the one position on defense that if he if he really is exceptional it can make everything else easier for you he had a six spin move too as he was returning that interception yeah I love it when when defensive guys that never touched the ball try to like hit the Madden buttons on themselves yes that was the best but yeah I do think that the Giants your problems are fixable even if you end up stinking down the stretch this year and you know that

you've got a good coach and that you have a general manager that's not Gettleman and so like the future is very bright if you're a Giants fan yes yes we can see Jake I don't know if they would actually do it the league because the Cowboys are such a big draw but in two weeks it's Colt Cowboys on the night Giants commanders they do love doing that with the NFC East but the Cowboys are a huge draw but it's the Colts yeah yeah I love Dallas Dolphins not Niners could be a change I think that comes down to if the Colts win what is it two weeks from now yeah the Colts win

next week I think they'll keep it Colts Cowboys and be like Colts are fighting for their playoff hopes yes Saturday discussion the fact we're having the conversation exactly although like if you're asking me honestly I want to see you said 49ers Dolphins that's a four o'clock game I could say I want that Daniel verse I want that game you could flex that yeah that game that's something to monitor so if it happens we called it Jake is an aside how excited do you get during flex season trying to predict cool you should

you should maybe like do that should be those should be your picks okay yeah like you should I mean separate but like I need yeah I need and also let's keep track I think it's a 14-day notice right yeah let's keep track of whether or not they they did a good job with it so this flex tonight Charger's Chiefs great job great job great job great job my fantasy flex league I that score is very high I just want maybe maybe on all Steelers Bangles we got to it that was the original game that was a good game too yeah maybe every Friday you can give us a

flex update like hey guys heads up two weeks from now we're looking at this you got it yeah I learned all the rules though because there's weird rules like CBS and Fox get first dibs to some games you can protect them you can each team like max is out at like five if there's any AWL who's just added to fantasy fuck boys and have a flex position yeah yeah oh yeah perfect weird flex but okay yeah and if there's any AWLs who work with work in NBC or any other and we can get inside info on just how it works we're not asking for you to tip us off

yeah but just how it works in terms of the rules and stuff while I'm rooting for a flex now we'll take a 13 I love it I love that the flex has become like the new score agonist yeah no I want it advanced yeah like this team is keep track of like which teams have never been flexed before yeah I'll look into it Jake's eyes lit up yeah I'm like oh look at this two weeks from now yeah watch out like I I like that I like seeing that in you flex in the city yeah yeah nice yeah real flex no flex okay next up falcons 27 bears 24 this is just groundhog's day

yeah so I got a question for you are you at all worried that just the act of losing is going to get very familiar yes yes that's what I said last week in terms of I would like for them to sprinkle in a win from time to time and this game had every bears game that's that's happened this year since Justin Fields like has started to ascend he looked great he was playing great he made some great throws he made some great runs he also had a couple throws that weren't great he threw a ball directly off of I think it was his uh I think it was his right guards helmet

yeah uh that was tough but that's okay that's you know we can take that when he makes the electric plays and then we got to a point you know the bear bears defense had some issues the special teams had some issues which we'll talk about quarter L Patterson get to the last drive can we can we get down the field and maybe win this game I do not know I actually think that Luke gets he the the guy who's calling the players I think he's actively been given orders to lose games because they started the drive Justin Fields hamstring was a little hurt

he starts it uh design quarterback run he bangs up his shoulder what does he do with a guy who's got uh uh gimpy hamstring and gimpy shoulder he does another design quarterback run and then on third down the check down that it wasn't a good thrown ball Montgomery should probably should have caught it but it wasn't like it was a bad pass by Fields and then rinse repeat the bears lose by three Justin Fields looks great and yeah I would like to sprinkle a little wind from time to time just to have him smile no I I've said this if the bears finish this season three and 14 it's a problem

they need to win probably two more games mixed in with what Justin Fields is doing and I hope if he's that if he's hurt even a little bit they should be the most cautious with him like like do not play him against the Jets if he is even a little bit injured yeah you know what I mean like that this is not at this point we are we are if we don't get a top five draft pick that's a problem in itself so what you got to do right now is because he he does have the talent to be like a generationally great quarterback if he's in the right system

you got to get him addicted to winning and turn him into a psycho yeah you got to give him like he is very competitive a taste for winning and just have him become a completely insane person that's that's totally motivated just by winning yeah you got to get him into that zone and that's not going to happen if if he just has to like get bitter every single week and and get sad after games and to his credit he did like he talked to the media and everything afterwards but no he's he's a gamer he doesn't want to yeah even though he was

like injured and stuff during the game he could just like skipped out on it and going home or it could have been like um you know is there a problem though yeah or like it was windy in the dome you just got to get him into that when he is hell you got to you got to turn him into a psycho that's the thing and he is I think he actually is pretty a competitive psycho and that he like we've talked about he doesn't really smile I think he very very desperately wants to win and uh yeah he made some electric plays and they fell short

and uh it sucks I would like for them to win and I want him to be healthy and uh yeah that's it's Groundhog's Day every single game the Bears have played since uh beating the Patriots on Monday football has been the exact same like play really good Justin Fields plays great defense special teams someone makes a mistake and the overheads the overheads and they have a chance at the end and it falls apart yeah like it's just I'm what and I'm not I'm not sick of watching it because I he makes play like that I think it was the this is where the

guys who look at the box score I'll just never like either you watched it or he didn't when he made that 10 yard scramble I think it was a second quarter when it like a guy was tackling him and he shook him it was just like what the fuck is going on and then he made that other uh scramble in the fourth to keep the play alive for I don't know 15 seconds it felt like and then hit someone like those plays are exceptional he's calm he still needs to be better as a pocket passer because that's that's what happened with the interception at the end I know that

those are like the things he needs to work on but yeah I think that the interception at the end I don't think he was passing the ball to the running back yeah I think he was throwing it to the the receiver that was running the crossing right he might have been and the running back jumped up and tipped it yeah to the receiver either way the he does need to get better as a pocket passer yeah but everything else has gotten so much better that uh that will come I've been very confident that will come as for the Falcons

good win for them there has been some Desmond Ritter rumblings so the report came out before the game that they're sticking with mariota and as long as their uh playoff like eligible they're still alive in the hunt um and mariota played okay today I don't know Kyle Pitts got hurt which that sucked Eddie Jackson hit him low which I don't blame like the defenders have no you can't go high big well you can't well you can't go high so you like I don't know it's like one of those tough spots for a lot of defenders now because you get if you

even go close to the head you get flagged for that but that sucked and then Cordero Patterson is uh officially the best kickoff returner of all time yeah he's got the record this is crazy to me so he has seven career touchdowns of a hundred plus yards yeah nuts seven career touchdowns of a hundred plus yards no other player in NFL history has more than three and I listen Devin Hester is the best returner uh all-around returner he has I think 14-punt returns in his career

I'm a Deion guy Deion guy but he Cordero Patterson is objectively the best kickoff returner at this point yeah he has nine he broke the record he has nine kickoff returns and what do you say seven over a hundred seven over a hundred yards which is crazy to me like that's that's so many like to me that's what's up Hank what's that X oh Dante Hall Dante Hall you were Dante Hall guy the human joystick yeah I mean he what he had he had that like him and Josh Krebs both had a moment where it was

more than a moment a few years where it was just like oh man these guys are awesome Dante Hall was uh I think it was because I was a kid too but he was he was a swaggiest dude he was he was I think he was the most fun to watch when he had the ball because he would make like seven guys miss on every return and he would run backwards and like juke he probably he had more jukes he was the the best juker that I've ever seen Cordero Pat well Devin Hester had a ton of jukes too but yet Cordero Patterson the craziest part about him

is he he shouldn't be that fast he's so big he's so big and when he doesn't even look like he's that fast like he doesn't look um I'm trying to think like Tyree Kill obviously when you see him run you're like oh fuck this guy's so much faster than everyone yeah he just it's one of those deceptive things where it's like he's just running faster than everyone it doesn't look like he's this uh crazy twitchy muscle guy but he's so much faster than him he takes those long strides yeah he gets going and he wasn't even really that much of a uh

he wasn't ever used as a running back when he was on the Vikings remember he came on part of my take and we asked him if he was going to be like time on gummary yeah and start to get some carries he was like yeah I'd like my coach to do that and then his chain started bouncing off the microphone and we're like damn this guy's cool yep he's extremely fast yeah so yeah he's uh I think we put him as a first ballot haul of very good but now I don't know like it might be a Hall of Famer well Devin Hester should be a Hall of Famer so I

I think that yeah Cordero Patterson plays for a couple more years he's in the part of my take he probably needs to play a couple more years we should make yeah we should make our own Hall of Fame we should he's definitely he's the number one kick returning guest and well no because Devin Hester came on the show yeah they're both in there they're both in there yeah okay we have the best we have the best Hall of Fame for kick returners that's true we gotta get Dante Hall on and we have Deon and we have Deon yeah that's true so we do need Dante Hall on the

show yeah and we need to get Josh Kribs yep we'll complete we'll we'll collect them all um yeah so Falcons I don't nothing else I mean this is good win for them the Bears aren't good as a team I don't delude myself like I think they're not bad they're not bad they're not good yeah no like if the Bears are on TV I want to watch that game well yeah Justin Fields makes it must watch but yeah as a like a totality like as a football team yeah I don't think they're good uh I jump it back to what you said about Desmond Ritter and the Marcus

Mariotta situation the way that I saw it made it almost seem like it was it was a defeatist proposition that the Falcons had where they said we're gonna keep Mariotta starting yeah until we get eliminated from the playoff on it wasn't so much optimistic like we're trying to make the playoffs right now it was just like we're gonna keep them in here for a couple more weeks yeah and then when we're officially eliminated we're gonna make the switch to Ritter yeah and I was just thinking hypothetically maybe Falcons fans can can educate me to what they believe or

what they think if you're a Falcons fan do you truly want to go back to the Super Bowl again uh probably not like in your heart of hearts no knowing knowing that like if you lose again it's just it's gonna be horrible I think if you gave Falcons fans if you said to Falcons fans you go to the Super Bowl there's a 95% chance you win but there's a 5% chance you get 28 to 3 again I think they'd be like no thanks probably not yeah I think it'd be like 99 and 1 or could you like right now if you were saying and then who

wouldn't like one's never gonna come up right yeah Hank our Falcons fans if you if you were to take this right now would you go to the Super Bowl knowing that you'd have to play against Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs no no I would no no no no no chance no chance no way right no thank you like it's it's not worth it to go through that whole week no you have to do like media day and everything like that be up in the game at some point yeah it actually sounds awful no no definitely not

maybe a nice like if our Falcons fans like maybe a nice divisional wild car weekend we yeah give me a win in week one and we'll go on the road play the one seed and lose like the early Saturday game yeah let's win that and then week two yeah we'll kindly bow out and take our bowl and go home yeah then that was fun that was a good season um yeah I like that that's a that's a good hypothetical and I I agree probably not I'm curious to know what Falcons fans think yes all right before we get to our next games we've got a few more pft you got a quick word from one of our sponsors

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mention is Justin Fields can i count his greatness uh both on the field in his play but also the fact that he does just enough to lose every game yeah to get the team better is that part of his greatness yeah right can i spin it that way like he's he's so great on the field and then he's so great in knowing just when to stop being great so the team can be future great put that on a quote board i think i think you know um that this is not a good place to get yourself into because

you don't want to make a major facet of your new quarterback that he's great at losing right but right now he's it's good for the all-time losing is great for getting the team better yeah overall so he has pretty much perfectly played like enough he's played well enough to be like holy shit i've got my guy but also at the same time he's not actively damaging the future of the draft right it's basically next year if they if they load up next year and he's still losing gains by three points

then we can have the discussion like what's going on but right now he's just setting himself up to be even more future great i i did see the take out there and i hope i kind of hope it gets started because uh it's it's a fun discussion to have should the bears sit just in fields for the oh i i saw that one pussy i saw a bubble up he was like you should you have to sit just in fields rest of season no you fucking don't dude he's a football player who wants to play football and he's still growing i love i love the

fact that we're having the conversation that's like yeah i saw that in order to get in order to get better at football sometimes you have to play football yeah and and guess what justin fields as great and as excited i am about him he still has a lot of things he has to work on i'm very open about that yeah i do think the the difference is i don't think he's a finished product i just think that he what i've seen he will be a finished incredible product are the bears wasting justin fields prime i saw that and i was just like holy shit what a pussy i do

if he is even like a little bit hurt though like if his hamstring don't play him again oh yeah of course like if you know if he has a soft tissue injury give him an extra week even after your recovery because that shit is not like that's not worth it but yeah he has to play the rest of season but yeah if he's healthy you don't you're not shutting him down yeah he's every game is a learning experience yeah he's getting better every week so why would you do that yeah that's a crazy take but i i it's basically the like i like that somebody's putting it out there just so we can dunk on it yeah it's like

guys like playing like uh four games in college and then opting out for the rest of the career i just want i want somebody to ask dan dockets that question so you can just say my ass my ass my ass my ass my ass he sits out yes um all right saints 27 rams 20 uh we did not have this game on tv uh because we are protesting denis allen's choice to have andy dalton be the quarterback andy dalton actually played well but it did james winston came out and said it hurt his soul uh to not be playing the rams are a complete dumpster fire matthew staffer gets hurt uh i think he had another concussion so it's weird

because he he got uh into the concussion protocol during the week this week right but there's no clear evidence of when he took oh wait no that was last week yeah last week yeah and so there there's some weird stuff going on they're not exactly sure what's going on i don't think he was ever diagnosed with a concussion but he was like somewhat in the concussion protocol and then they took him out to evaluate him for another concussion this week it's just very weird it's very it's very strange i don't know what's going on there shon mcvay has lost four games in a row for the first time in his career uh seems like he'd be much happier just

being on television once a week talking about football well no pft because we just talked about it with jesson fields the rams will get a better draft pick that's true oh wait wait no that wait a second that go that go that goes to the detroit lines yes so the more they lose the more that the detroit lines continue to stop where the detroit lines just like absorbed all the fuck them picks energy from the rams that would be great and load it up on picks and what if what if the lines just become a dinosaur what if the lines become a dynasty and we look back at the staffer trade and we're like that that was like uh the uh

rocket ish mile trade where it's like holy shit yeah they the rams one one the lines one for yeah it what i what did you get matt stafford what did you what did it cost you everything everything um i the rams are so sad now instead of like recapping and trying to figure out i mean brace perkins came into the game who's been on the rams roster since 2020 uh he played it virginia and then he played somewhere else too before that i can't remember off the top of my head but uh i do like that we're like warming up for the brice young era because that's the i think he's the second brice ever to play quarterback in the nfl so we're getting like more custom we get into brice yeah it's a price price petty uh for a while for the jets now we

have brice perkins but the rams like they're so depressing uh that my entire like recap of the game was just immediately go to their schedule and be like do i have to watch them in prime time for the rest of season and the answer unfortunately is yes twice in back to back weeks can we flex that out uh we can't flex those out actually i think they have a very late buy so one of them it might be no no it is back to back weeks they play the raiders on thursday night football that's gonna suck and then they play the packers on monday night football the next week imagine espn being like yes we got rams packers in the middle of december what a fucking coup for us by the way holy shit weeks is also eagles titans so that's another one that could be uh flex

oh for sunday football yeah so it's my flex of the year okay that's your flex okay are you calling right now that well i don't know who tony it's gonna get out eagles titans is gonna get out no colt cowboys oh colt cowboys oh that dolphins niners oh you're saying the colt cowboys your flex of the year that's out yes wow he's calling his shot folks we gave him a little bit of power he's gone way too far with it okay if you don't get this then you lose all credibility it's almost like when you didn't put wisconsin in the tournament okay and i'm still here yeah well barely uh uh that's i'm joking jake i do like this flex of the year now i'm now i'm invested we better wake up and hope when is it when did it when's the week so let me check okay yeah what if the deadline

passed what if the deadline already got null no are you no void no no no no you would know for one you went flex of the year you just went flex of the year on us that was a fast you can't take back this loss you can't be like bill cower taking back your flex you're right you're right uh but yeah we have to watch the rams two more times uh versus raiders thursday night football at packer i saw a report that that cooper cup was out for six to eight weeks just say he's out for the year yeah at this point well cooper cups one of those psychos that definitely will be like week 18 let me play i'll train i'll train yeah all in for week 18 dude loves football um as for the saints i'm so sick of their shit i just don't like i feel like they're just gonna keep doing this where they lose

a game everyone's like holy shit stop playing indy dalton then they win a game like oh indy dalton i mean they have the only thing i can say nice about the saints is juan johnson looks very good is a tight undrafted tight end and then chrysalovia is the real deal which is nice because that's that's a that's a high draft it is chrysalovia had the one long touchdown today and then also uh tason hill got in the action a little bit good so he got in there he got 10 carries i think for 50 yards that's fun keep doing stuff like that make make your team tolerable to watch to watch that's all we want because i the nfl is a better league when we're able to have their games on our television in the gambling cave yes i like and the saints uniforms they were incredible yeah they were i love

those i and that that's the only reason why i'm a little bit upset that we didn't watch the saints today is because i could have just looked at those uniforms yeah for three and a half hours those were great uniforms uh yeah i'm looking at the saints uh this year they've gone they won their first game they lost three in a row they won they lost two in a row they won they lost two in a row they won so bet on the 49ers and buccaneers the next two weeks yep and then they'll beat the falcons yeah they'll follow this up with two straight losses uh yeah and then i could see them losing to the browns and the eagles and then beating the panthers yeah so this is going to be their whole season i kind of i like that yeah you're consistently inconsistent i'll say it again

denis allen um if you don't have james winston or tason hill taking snaps against the bucks on monday football december 5th i'm going to jump in front of a bus that hurts my soul 12 days is the flex deadline so monday or tuesday wow so like tomorrow tomorrow we are on flex the year watch jake i need you to explicitly say what your flex of the year is well i don't know which games that you know he's saying that cults cowboys will be flexing it out that is the ballsyest thing you can do to flex out a cow yeah you're coming out of the gate hard but like your first one like you put your nuts on the table yeah yeah oh yeah yeah no it's listen it's a thrill like if it's a jaguar's titans like come on yeah you're right you're going you're going big game hunting

yeah like they won't flex out the cowboys no no no our boy flex of the year he called the flex master all right so so give me your your power rankings in terms of which one you think is most likely this is so excited to get flexed in i love the flex master you got you got your eyes on three games right giants commanders is third okay so it's between dolphins niners and eagles titans eagles are playing sunday football next week will they do it that's true will they do it though i don't think they'll do it again also titans doesn't really move the needle yeah i'll go with dolphins niners that feels right that feels right but they're also like allergic to having the dolphins on sunday football right because that was the first time in since like 2010 oh wow wow you really

pained yourself into a corner here this is gonna be great all right well everyone turn in you can't oh well there's no no no no no it's very well that's not that no no no no well say that word again on the show don't oh well if you lose this i want i want real tears okay for the awl if you lose this you have to you have to drop another f-bomb you have to say i fucked up i'm jake marshan i fucked up don and then the other f-bomb too yeah you gotta drop that one the brennan we're gonna make jake go brennan all right uh yeah saints whatever dude uh ravens panthers another game we didn't have on which this was the correct choice nailed it um ravens defense is as good as we thought like they were it's a bummer i feel like pj walker could have won this game

baker mayfield was back in it was a tight game then the ravens defense had three turnovers in the fourth quarter alone uh kind of just like we're like all right enough with this shit and won the game and uh yeah i don't really depend i guess i'll say not something nice about the panthers i actually think the panthers depending on how the draft goes they might be my bounce back team next year they'll have a new coach their defense is good like their defense is pretty good and has some dudes they still have dj more i'm gonna i'm gonna preemptively say panthers or yeah panthers bounce back team next year i think a lot has to do with who they hire as a coach though that too that too right um the ravens have led by double digits in every single game this year yeah so the ravens

they can beat they can warp any team in the nfl yes that's what i'm taking from that and they're 23 and three uh lemar is 23 and three against teams with losing records so he's like pretty consistent that he beats teams that are beneath them you get credit for that you do get credit for it uh yeah you can't really learn that much about the ravens you you beat the panthers their defense is i i the the super old future i made on the ravens is based on their defense i i mean lemar is it's gonna basically be defense and lemar being electric just yeah if lemar catches fire in the playoff and and they did uh because they do not have wide receivers but demarcus robinson was great today so maybe that's the answer maybe he and i mark andrews isn't back yet i don't believe i

but i i played he did play okay he did he did so yeah that was going to be my excuse for the ravens offense sucking and that's gone well the ravens offense it will it will occasionally suck yeah that's just kind of who they are as a franchise that's who they've they've been for quite some time once in a while you're going to be like wow this team is just painfully bad right principally but anytime you have lemar on the field it's like okay any carry he can take it 70 yards right and i i i'm basically my faith is in the ravens defense lemar being electric justin tucker being electric i i also yeah justin tucker that's that's essentially like not right that's the formula that i'm banking on for them to make a deep run that motherfucker don't miss

he doesn't tucker i am i admire the ravens commitment though to not ever having a good wide receiver yeah it's actually great it's a good running bit that they've had for i don't know like what since ankwan bolden maybe that lemar since he is uh his own agent maybe that's what he says he's like i will take i will take the initial deal you gave me you have to get me three wide receivers yeah package three do you think lemar is going to be so good at being his own agent that he's going to represent other players too he should i'd be sick yeah lemar it like lemar should like lemar should call erin rogers and be like you think you have a bad bro come on like they they tried to bring in fucking des des bryant like 10 years after he was good

or yeah yeah pretty bad he was a tight end that was their answer and he immediately got covid remember that yes if the other guys in the league were smart and they wanted lemar on their team if i'm like a wide receiver on i don't know uh what's the team that's like a quarter but if i'm a wide receiver on like the uh let's say garret wilson okay team is he on garret wilson yeah where's garret wilson it's a good question is what team is he on jets oh oh yeah okay random i just picked a random so if i if i was garret wilson or braxton barrios we can pick any one of these guys hypothetically i would say lemar you can be my agent so you even get a taste of my contract if you sign with the jets the jets would win the super they would

right now if if listen if everybody on the jets yeah committed right now and said we're all firing our agent and lemar is going to represent all of us so he gets whatever it is five percent 10 percent i don't know what is in the all future of all our future earnings of any contract that we signed lemar jackson would be a jet next year 100 that would be yeah you should do that if your defense is mad enough they should reach out to lemar yeah they should be like we want you to represent us well we gotta get the off season and in that meantime we'll have to make do i just want to see i want to see lemar go to the jets just so billy's to be like he's never gonna get hurt yeah yeah no the jets would i think we said yeah we're like i was it a conversation today or

might have been earlier this week was like lemar on the jets would be incredible yeah there's such a 17 and oh there's such a good defense like why not uh okay round and off we have three more games raiders broncos somebody's got to win this game the thaniel hackett and then almost we almost had a tie and they forgot about davante adams who torched him for the game-winning touchdown on the opening drive of overtime and i guess like this is just a this is one of those games where it's like the winner can you really celebrate and the loser you're really sad yeah i personally would have guarded the one good player that the raiders had if i was the broncos i think patrick sirtane sirtane was on him which socks because

he is an electric quarterback nobody was on him yeah no one no one was 11 yards of separation 11 yards yeah that's that's probably being generous he was he was wide open uh it is really like a thank god we didn't lose situation if you're the raiders it's like okay well i'm not getting fired after this game yeah and probably not because mark davis is a broke boy is a broke boy yeah uh nathaniel hackett is is pulling out all the stops oh yeah he gave up play calling duties before the game he announced that he was no longer be calling the plays wait so now he has like clint kukubiak clint kubiak he's also got friends with office manager brett yep he's got omb an assistant that he brought in uh that's now like handling some of the game time decisions

for him yeah in terms of like when to go for it different play calling parameters and then this guy who's newt now job is actually to call the plays so i'm not really sure what it is nathaniel hackett's doing anymore um he's just like hanging out yeah around the facility he's fist pumping he was pretty fired up at points in this game he might be doing some like part-time doctoring i don't know that's a passion of his i like the broncos uniforms in this game they were incredible yeah the all orange is all orange um and russ wasn't terrible except he had a terrible moment um basically the reverse of taylor heineke where at the end of the game it was two after the two minute warning raiders had burned all their timeouts third and ten for

the broncos and he scrambled and just threw the ball like at his receiver's feet and it's like dude just take a sack there and there's another 40 seconds to go off this clock and now the raiders are you know no timeouts a minute and 20 instead of no timeouts a minute and 45 and the raiders were comfortably able to get down the field to to tie the game it was just what are you doing dude what are you doing that's that's a that's a 10-year quarterback like you can't make that mistake yeah it's it's funny looking back as to what this offseason was telling us about this division because we're like oh man this division is going to be insane the raiders awesome they got josh mcdaniel's that offense is going to be incredible broncos russell wilson new head coach

comes from green bay russell wilson great quarterback they're going to let him cook broncos are going to be awesome didn't you said during the stream that you you bet on the broncos to win the division i might have i i mean no listen yeah maybe i'm joining you in shame because i guarantee you i someone go find the clip i was like watch out like if the broncos are good this year russ mvp yeah because there was like couldn't be worse those two takes there was there was uh zero balls that touched the ground at the practice that we went to that one time could not be worse like you can't think of a worse take than broncos to in the afc west russell wilson although those are that's a combined parlay if one happens the other happens and i'm pretty sure that we were

suffering from the altitude two when we're out in denver when we were there probably had some mushrooms in our system big guy and it was uh it was it was a bad take but it's funny because we spent the entire offseason talking about how like different and crazy this division is going to be and it's exactly the same yeah as it's ever patrick mahomes which is awesome patrick mahomes will kick the shit out of you and suck your soul yeah uh the chargers will be frustratingly good and consistently lose close games um the raiders will will will every now and then show a flash where it's like oh my god this is the raiders offense and derrick car will be a very likable yeah kind of sappy guy but you feel bad for um who's the guy in game of thrones that constantly

get was it uh gray joy the guy that gets his dick cut off yeah reek reek yeah that's that's derrick car he's like he seems occasionally to have his heart in the right place he kind of root for him sometimes but other times it's just like this guy's being tortured his whole life and then the broncos have a amazing defense they're the exact same team as last year and then can't do shit offensively the broncos would be nine and one now if they scored 18 points in regulation every game if they scored 18 points in regulation there'd be nine and one yeah they're the exact same team they just it's free money i don't want to say it's free money it's free my game over responsibly the broncos under every week is free money they just they they have the perfect combination of a very

good defense even without bradley chubb and a horrific offense so with hack it we always talk about like the coaches saving my job moves giving up the play calling i feel like that's that's a big one that they can do sometimes yep um another one would be benching the quarterback so i was thinking about it if you were russ if russell wilson had any semblance of being a normal person um i think that like maybe after thanksgiving so somewhere in like week 14 15 yeah just hammy i'm out for the year yeah just just just wash yourself from this year because you are on the broncos for the future you're stuck with this team they're stuck with you probably more they're stuck with you just hit a a complete like men in black refresh i'm out play the rest of the season

i come back next year new team yeah like you have to do that because at this point russell wilson starting week 18 and just sadly being the same russell wilson has been terrible this year and again he wasn't that bad today uh i just you have to like you have to just flush this and you have to bury this entire season right so there's there's zero chance that he gets benched if he did get benched i'm pretty sure that they just fired at the end of hacking immediately right but he comes down to two of them he should take he should he should he should do it himself i'm super excited to see what russell wilson does this offseason because he has to he has to change him he has to reinvent himself and i'm i'm just pumped to see what like deep dark hole of

pseudoscience he falls down and gets super committed to yes for the next like five months because it's gonna be some fucked up stuff he's probably gonna do like an entire documentary special with queneth paltrow yeah goop just yeah i'm gonna make candles at my butthole yeah goop russell wilson's goop i'm looking right now we have one more prime time that's going to get flexed what week is that and they might not flex that because it's patrick holmes patrick holmes verse uh brosco you know what i'm making that my flex of the year oh yeah it's coming off now if we both win yeah you would root for that you're so nice but how can you not root for you to win in him to lose no that's just a normal guy oh i want you to lose my rally my i want to

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half they completely shut down the Bengals defense I don't know what they do just every every halftime they come out and they're a different unit and then Joe Burrow looked good and P. Ryan scored I think three these three touchdowns it was yeah it was like oh this is the Bengals and I thought about it and I looked back and if you're a Bengals fan it's been a weird start to the season because there have definitely been points in time where you're like oh that this Bengals team is a flash in the pan last year they're at the exact same point they were last year last year week 11 they were six and four they then finished the season week 18 they had already clinched the division they finished the season on a five and two run playing the you

know that big win against the Chiefs go to the go to the Super Bowl like everything in front of them I feel like I know that like years aren't you can't be like oh it happened last year so it's going to happen again but if you're a Bengals fan you got to be in the back of your head being like oh look at the schedule we're six and four we got a big game against the Chiefs in a couple weeks like we have basically the same setup where if we just get everyone healthy and and put it back together yeah we're going to be in the exact same spot going into the playoff and you might get Jamar Chase back and Jamar is right now reached the point is rehab where he's just he's just pretending that he's not hurt yeah he's like you know what they're telling me that I need to be using the

crutches I'm just not going to do that I'm just going to come back and play football so you can if you're a Bengals fan you can be like I have every reason to be optimistic about what's going to happen at the end of the season as long as we never have to play TJ Watt again because I feel like TJ Watt does get in that reception was so insane it was insane it was nuts I've never like a wide receiver probably wouldn't catch that ball most of the time is he's such a freak he's an absolute freak he's disgusting and he's just a guy that I think he's he's kind of owned Joe Burrow for the last what three matchups that they've had two two interceptions in two games this year and then I think last year you also you played pretty well against him yeah that's a guy that would start

to haunt your dreams a little bit absolutely Joe Burrow but if you're a Bengals fan you are saying like we it's crazy that they're in the exact same spot yeah at times looked great at times looked bad but they have everything in front of them and if they get on a little mini run here in December where again big game against the Chiefs like at home against the Chiefs in two weeks they don't overlook the Titans but this is like the the Bengals are it's deja vu all over again where it's like we're gonna be sitting here in late December being like are they good yeah I've lost some weird games but yeah they're good I'm actually very comfortable with where we are with the Bengals right now which is if you were to say like do we need to be respecting the Bengals more I'd say

no I think we're respecting the Bengals the perfect amount I think they are if they win if they win both of those games against the Titans and the Chiefs then yeah we do need to be respecting them but right now I feel like I have a I have the proper amount of respect for the Cincinnati Bengals here here's what I'll say about the Bengals in terms of uh six and four five and five teams in that range they're by far the most dangerous like the the the Patriots the Jets uh and the Chargers are all in that six and four five and five maybe even throwing the Colts of four and six like the Bengals are in that group you're like yeah maybe it's because we just saw it last year but there's just something about Joe Burrow and the way they play defense in second halves of games

like yeah they might just put it together and just go on this run again my instinct was to be like no the Chargers are my favorite yeah right but but then if you put the Chargers against the Bengals I think the Bengals just whooped the dog shit out yeah of course they do and and I did like that they went with the uh the Siberian Tiger look I like it but I didn't like it on the road no I'm still getting used to it so it's like when you run into your teacher at the supermarket and she's wearing clothes that she doesn't wear to school and you're like oh this is weird I feel strange like I know that you're the same person but you look different like I understand that it's the Bengals that are playing this game but I'm not used to it enough yet yeah my my sidebar my son we walk by his school

the other on Saturdays like yeah my teachers live there yeah like yeah you're right they do they live there it's very true yeah but yeah the um I can't wait till they break it out in snow yep because in the cold today looked awesome when they break it out in snow it's gonna look awesome uh but yeah I think we're right we're at the perfect spot of the Bengals we have a healthy right the right amount of respect they're not as good as the Bills and Chiefs right now yeah but that doesn't mean they can't beat them in January yeah it because Joe Burrow can do anything the fact is like the Steelers Steelers could have beaten them today if the pigeons showed up yeah that's true pigeonless game and Kenny kind of showed some flashes one second half wasn't great yeah but that's the

Bengals defense I would like to see the ball jump out of Kenny Pickett's hands a little bit more and that drop by George Pickett's at the end obviously they ended up scoring um but yeah that was uh I don't know I if you're the Steelers like you just want to be in these games TJ Wappie healthy and Kenny Pickett shows some flashes yeah that's about it we also had the um which is crazy we had a 111 stat line Trent Taylor for the Bengals one catch one target one catch one yard hell yeah love it Statholes sports tip me off to that that's just I don't know it's fun yeah it's like it's a fun snow stat yeah that's a fun stat to look at be like oh he had one yard I bet I bet you Trent's listen to this right now yeah he is South Trent 111 yeah you're in our 111 club uh is

Joe Mixon really hurt what happened to him I don't know I don't know if he's really hurt but like they don't they don't lose that much and Joe Mixon is a good running back but they don't lose that much when Perrine gets in yeah and the fact that they want they've been winning well I guess uh they this is off the buy so they did lose to the the Browns but they can never beat the Browns but um oh no they played the Panthers last week the fact they're winning these games without Jamar Chase oh wait they beat the Panthers yeah no the Panthers thing's over Panthers thing is dead yeah yeah because it also is dead because the Falcons beat the Bears that's right so it's over died it died in a double header today gotcha um all right last game brought to you by our friends at

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to Vikings fans if you lose the Patriots Thursday then this season's whose line is it anyway I know you guess three and a half is the game I said it was three is the game in New England no it's in Minnesota I said three when we when Hank and I were talking about earlier he said three and a half I said three I'm gonna say it's Vikings Vikings five what is it it's three okay yeah because I figured like three and a half everyone would just jump on that all the sharps as they say the Vikings are eight and two with a negative point differential yeah they minus two minus two and we talked last week about how they were the second worst point differential of any team to ever be eight and one the number one team was I think the 76 Raiders who ended up winning the Super Bowl that year

yep so every Vikings fan was like see we can we can do it too they did it they had John Madden as a coach oh he was pretty good I'm pretty sure uh this is the worst Vikings home loss since 1963 oh that's bad that's staying so out of a hundred team 110 teams ever to go eight and two they're the worst when it comes to point differential oh that's a pretty big sample size and listen I I don't want to say we're right but god damn we're right we have been right yeah oh Hank don't give me that face week 11 the Vikings the Vikings got their pants though Vikings have played two really good NFC teams and they've gotten absolutely smoked by both of them like the edit bills you're right the but we're talking about the NFC and the playoffs and the NFC

the Vikings have had like the NFC is wide open absolutely wide open but you'd have to say the Cowboys and Eagles are somewhere in the top and they've gotten smoked by them absolutely smoked by them and this one was never close it was not only the Cowboys offense and Tony Pollard just being an absolute freak show electric factory it was Kirk Cousins fumbling on the first drive and like it's a good start it was just hey he didn't throw any interceptions yeah that's good well he threw what like a 105 yards yeah something like yeah he was uh he was under he was the Kirk Cousins that uh nice guy good quarterback when things are going well but man did things not go away are they gonna are they gonna do anything like goofy stuff with chains and I don't know

put the jewelry on him after this game I just I needed this one I needed this one to to feel sometimes it does it feels good to be right about a stupid take that we have well and it's also just a reminder that like I think the the Vikings are still a good team they still will go to the playoffs but we know like this was just so this was just a little uh message from the future yeah being like don't worry guys oh listen the don't worry the Vikings are still a very good NFC team but I don't think they're gonna do any damage I'm feeling very confident about the status of my ass with the Kirk Cousins tattoo situation yeah I feel real good about that I might double down on it and say like I'll get two ass cheek tattoos of Kirk Cousins I'm not saying it yet but I'm I'm

feeling confident enough to the point where like I'm feeling really good about about the bets that we've made fun little stat that came out of this game uh kind of similar to that Panthers thing the last seven teams that have beaten the Buffalo Bills lose next week oh Bills beat it out of you they beat it out of you so it goes back to 2001 all the way back to uh wait wait what or sorry 2021 I was gonna say what the fuck where we've been missing out on money yeah the Jaguars when they when they beat the Bills remember that yeah nine to six the legendary game then they lose to the Colts the next week going all the way back there so it's a trend to keep your eyes out on okay yeah that is a trend I we gotta that absolutely is a trend we need to start betting mm-hmm um yeah this

game it was just funny it was uh it was kind of funny it was very funny it just kept getting worse this game was over when at halftime Brett Marr who I always want to say Dan Dan Bailey's just the kicker on on the Cowboys Brett Marr made two consecutive 61 yard field goals because they had to like do a last-minute review of a CD lamb catch which was an incredible throw and catch Dak Prescott I think I saw the stat it was a it was a yard and a half out of bounds when he caught it like that's so far out of bounds yep and he caught it and uh the kick the first kick goes through makes it by probably like a yard on the right section of the crossbar and then they're like oh he has to kick it again no chance he makes it again 61 yard field goal and then a second kick is even

better yeah in the first one say okay this game's over this game is officially over uh I'm not gonna just rub it in on Vikings there's still a lot of season left uh but they know they know we know and we know they know and that's the that's the best way to sum this whole thing up yeah in a sick twisted way Kirk Cousins fucked me again on this one why because it would have been great if you beat the Cowboys yeah that's true and he just absolutely he shit the bed but we know we know that you know yep and we know and it's okay it's fine it's okay you've got to still root for your eight and two team don't apologize for being eight and two the Vikings will probably end up winning I'll say I actually think they'll win 12 games I think they'll go 12 and four okay and they'll be

looking good they'll have a home playoff game they might even have two home playoff games actually right yeah I mean a lot of two home a lot of stuff could happen because they only have two losses right they but they I think they're gonna finish 12 and four they're gonna be very good five what 12 and five sorry 12 and five my bad 12 and five so actually I might even say that 13 and four 13 and four they're gonna finish 13 and four that's gonna be a great record they're gonna win the north easily they're going to have two home playoff games and what happened today will happen again and I won't take pleasure in it but I have to report the facts it's our it's our duty to report the facts I take no pleasure in reporting this big cat I think I think the Vikings are only gonna

lose maybe one more game this season yeah no they they're I think that there's a good chance I'm we're gloating a little bit as is our right but there's a good chance that the Vikings could end up with with home field advantage yeah they play the Patriots and the Jets next two games at home with a minibuy after the Patriots so yeah if they win Thursday night I would agree with you because it's Lions, Colts, Giants, Packers, and Bears who are gonna be dead by that time of the season yeah yeah I I'm saying right now 13 and four is is absolutely what they're gonna be I think they might be and it might be even better yeah I think it's gonna be a little bit better than that so just just rest on that you're gonna win 13 games at

least and then this is gonna happen and we're gonna come right back to these seats and again I don't I hate to do this because I'm just reporting the facts and Vikings fans I think are they're great people they are it's nothing against Vikings fans yeah if you are but god bless you like you've dealt with your fair share of shit over the years but at the end of the day we need to have an understanding that this is not personal between us and that you know that we know yeah that you know that we know exactly what's gonna happen yeah I have uh I have one like door to our castle that's open that I'm a little worried about uh Wisconsin playing Minnesota on Saturday for the for the Axe so I would like Wisconsin to win that so because that's like

there'll be some Vikings fans that will scurry in that door of our fortress and that will suck for me personally um but then we'll go back to just regular that's fine I mean like listen I know I know that door is open I've been thinking about it I literally started thinking about it last night and I can't get out of my head that like I'm gonna have to deal with those mentions and then you know what I'll deal with it like a man I'll take it head on but uh that other than that the fortress is is locked up I actually think that this is the type of loss that could actually be good psychologically for Vikings fans because you know as we've said like you know these last the two losses that you have on your schedule you know exactly they're glaring where the expert and there will be

as they continue to win and as they maybe win a playoff game or two playoff games the uh the Vikings army will swell throughout the playoffs but it will be all for a moot point and I think you'll understand that yeah it'll be the least enthusiastic giant army of all time yeah okay so we'll we'll see you back here uh same time same place uh somewhere around the divisional so what we're even NFC championship what we're doing is actually genius for us because the Vikings are gonna continue to win yeah and and you're not at home allowed to get mad at us right about the Vikings winning because we're telling you like we know you guys are gonna kick ass you guys are gonna win a shitload of games this is the part that we know yeah but you know

the other part yeah the other part is the key part that we also know I'm not gonna say yeah what that other part is right uh last point and it actually is a perfect segue to football guy of the week um Micah Parsons is a fucking psycho he hurt his knee went to the medical tent came back into the game the Cowboys were up 34 at this point the guy just he has to play football it's crazy up 34 he actually got injured and then went back in the game I don't know if like Mike McCarthy just puts up his hands like I can't stop him from wanting to play football but man does that guy love football I love that I love Dan Quinn I love that he continues to rock the backwards cap yeah he's completely rebranded himself what if oh big cat you know how you already said like preemptively

you're putting your bounce back team as the Panthers yeah what if they hired Dan Quinn oh that would be great that would be that he knows that's rock he knows the division yeah that defense would rock uh yeah the uh the Cowboys this is very encouraging for you because it probably makes you the front runner to get Odell Beckham as well oh yeah this performance gonna happen Odell I think he tweeted out something about like oh man you guys are going crazy um I just love that Odell is he continues to just be like want me like I want I want you to want me yeah they went crazy today and then someone said you're celebrating on the star and he said with the mouth close emoji I miss Seyquan oh I told you Giants maybe he's so mixed signals I think from the no sources that I have

Cowboys for the remainder this year than Giants next year hmm all right football guy of the week and we'll finish up with who's back of the week perfect so last week's winner was Sam Porter's friend Sam Porter was the guy who texted his buddy and said that he was engaged with his yep and then fiance and the guy just started talking about the football game that was on between Kansas City and the Titans so uh he totally didn't realize that he was talking about not being engaged in football but engaged in real life so yeah Sam Porter's friends so our first nominee this week is a bunch of dudes in Georgia who went to the Falcons game all dressed up as Mike Ditka that was cool that looks like a fun time I think it was a bachelor

party yeah it was a bachelor party and um our colleague John Fidelberg pointed out which I happened to agree with him uh 20 dudes a lot for a bachelor party it's a lot of dudes that's true it's a lot of dudes that's a hard bachelor party to like wrangle well not what's the right number uh I'd say like 10 to 12 yeah I was gonna say 12 12 I would say inviting 12 and having 10 show up that's probably perfect that's that's right around the right number and so there are 20 guys on a Sunday morning that we're all able to get their acts together get dressed up in the same costume and be at the game on time that's a shock and and and throw out what I said about the 20 dudes because whatever his bachelor party has already happened is just more of like a future thing uh

that scene in the house all of them like probably a little still drunk getting drunk again putting on all the the costumes that had to be the funnest thing ever like that's just that is just the epitome of guy friendship like being like look how stupid we look yeah like and and just getting a little goofy like you're in that goofy hungover state and you have a couple beers you get drunk again I I like saw that picture and I was like god damn it I wish I was there that looks so much fucking fun that's that's kind of like a european thing almost like to all get dressed up together and go out to an event you just guys don't do that that much but it's awesome right and it you know like it's silly but it's also so much fun and it's just such like a like we need to do that more

as guys we need to just you know be be hung over together because that is the the the best part about a bachelor party is not going out it's waking up the next morning and having like laughs about what happened and still being a little hungover and that first dude who cracks a beer at like 9 a.m being like let's get the party started yep that's if I could bottle that friendship that's the best friendship in the world do you think after the game they like went out to a bar met up with some girls and then one of the girls started like making out with one of the dickas and then forgot which dicka she was she was hooking up with I like and came back and another dicka took her yeah yeah yes I think it probably happened also if they went to the game I'd assume

that some of them stayed the night which also is very fun friendship of being like stolen time we shouldn't still be on this bachelor party yeah it's sunday night like what are we doing northside tavern shout out man in Atlanta like that yeah now I'm very jealous these guys look like they had a fucking awesome time so I take back the 20 thing it is still a lot it's still a lot it's more it has nothing to do with like oh man that's like too many friends have it's more like logistically is a headache yeah like how do you get I went on one in Miami that was a lot of dudes and it was like we had to like go like when we went to dinner it was like what like they sat us in like a like on couches because like we don't have enough seating for you it's probably also three different groups

of friends like three different eras of friendship yes that the groom has can you mad what if you went to the the falcons bears game today and you were just dressed up like dicka just because you'd been wanting to dress up like Mike dicka at a bears game and you showed up and there's just like 20 other dickas yeah I go home but yeah I love these dudes these dudes that was that's the text chain is going to be popping off all week being like that was the best weekend ever and I that's that's something to that's goals our second nominee is Wyatt teller offensive lineman for the browns uh his wife was concerned about him playing the snow was asking all these logistical questions she's pregnant was very worried and on the whole subject Wyatt teller just said I like playing the

elements yeah yeah yeah yeah just the fact that is doesn't matter about all the other crazy dangerous stuff yeah there was some um college football player that was a recruit I think he was at Nebraska this weekend and he showed up and it was I don't know 16 degrees or whatever and he was just he came out there wearing short sleeve shirt just on the sidelines because he was like this is what I'm gonna be playing in I'm gonna take my recruiting visit here just sleeveless love it our next nominee is cam smith on uh the game cox after beating Tennessee about his half-time adjustments to the defense this is what he had to say adjustments were made during that break

I love it like it yep and our last nominee is a high school kid from Madison Wisconsin Henry Suddy who was born disabled but ended up learning to walk because he wanted to play football well that that's the winner yeah I mean the dude's dressed like dick of that you're not feeling assholes now what about the guy that said we're just gonna drop our nuts though well this this guy this guy was inspired to play sports and learn to run because all his older brothers played football and he really wanted to play yeah okay all right so yeah send him the nail in the football Vox popularly what does uh yeah that's how football guy works yeah my vote is for the disabled kid who learned how to run just to play football I'm voting for Trump

so reinstate him the football guy of the week uh okay let's finish up uh great show who's back of the week brought to you by our friends at visible with visible's one-line wireless plan you pay $30 a month taxes and fees included with unlimited unlimited data so you can stream as much as you want from pretty much anywhere you want plus it's all powered by Verizon yep that network starts saving with visible's one-line wireless plan switch today at visible.com and get up to $250 gift card when you buy a select device at visible.com uh check it out now the best wireless in the world Henry Danny can I say something no uh no I need to say I need to say something fine when you say that thing about my gambling karma I I think you're gonna get the

ball tonight like I just it's been in my head and I think you're gonna get it I do I think you're gonna get it um my who's back of the week is just classlessness from like what big catch showing right now classlessness from the city of Philadelphia uh on Friday Yanis dude you're lashing out did you guys see the story you are in one of your little moods I knew it when you sat down I did not I am not from Philadelphia I did not choose to not let Yanis one of the best players in the league take some fucking free throws after the game every player should be able to do that Joe and Lee does it on the road all the time so for some reason you have to request to do it you have to request to do it when Montres he did not request to do it is there like an MVP like you've

won an MVP you're one of the best players in the league you should probably be able to do whatever you want I mean you're talking about Philadelphia who who tried to starve the Houston Astros right there was a worker there who was paid to do his job his job was to change the courts after the game not to wait around for Yanis to get his little free throws in because he missed 11 free throws and blew the game against the sixer yeah and max also went on a temper tantrum and god forbid there was somebody underneath that ladder when he threw it to the ground yeah also hurt someone max let's let's remember that when Yanis practices free throws he probably takes the full 11 seconds between each one so it's probably adding an extra like 45 minutes to this guy's knife

I just love the max game like locked and loaded with the facts oh yeah I mean I was I was very into this story very into this story for yeah for people to see Yanis was trying to shoot his free throws after the game and there was a guy trying to take down the the hoop with a ladder and Yanis was literally pushing the ladder out of the way as the poor worker depending on which side you're you're well I mean if you're telling me that was Joel and B like they're not going to let them shoot the free throws well well it's your court yeah it's your court mantra's hero went and took the ball from no this guy's got a family to get home wrong wrong no that's correct not the NBA no Pelosi 76ers it's it's a brotherhood it's a family all the rules apply to all the different places

and B does it all the time on the road that's what I don't get where it's like Philly people are just like I looked into it you have to request you have to request before the game looks into it Hank if you wanted to get if you want to work out after the game at the court you have to make a request before the game Yanis did not make their quest also the basket we need this clip I need this social clip the basket on the other end of the court had already been taken down so it was like they were waiting for that was the last thing to do trying to change to the ice Hank max what kind of research did you do when you said that you looked into it so many tweets so the Barstow Invitational same venue they ripped apart the court immediately

after the buzzer yeah I went to pack myself up after going to the bathroom after the buzzer and the hoops were down the center court sticker was gone yeah they want to go home yeah so Hank just because like Giannis says that all these other people need to stay around and work until I don't know 1 2 a.m when they got a family to get home to like you don't you don't sympathize with those workers no the guys gonna get some free throws up no Hank hates the blue collar workers that's it is sad that's fine Hank what if as a suit Hank has shown nothing but content Hank for the common man what would you do if after we we finished recording tonight I was like wait Hank stay here I want to practice my ads well you would roll your eyes no two days ago you're like Hank stay here

I'm gonna fucking pull the lottery ball machine 12 times that was awesome you could left it's my lottery ball machine it needs to stay warm it's like a car it's winter time Hank make sure you look after your automobile right so yeah I mean I didn't care for it but that's what it is this didn't go the way you thought it would no I mean I don't listen I people are gonna you know come at me and say I'm being a hater but I'm just I'm just bringing light to the people I don't think anyone's gonna say you're a hater no absolutely not my other who's back the week is just goats messy and Ronaldo yes the picture together that was those guys are very handsome they're attractive they were playing chess in the picture fun fact about that chess match on a Louis Vuitton

bag I think yeah yeah fun fact about that that chess match that they were playing in that board is the exact same setup as our goat Magnus Carlson oh and his legendary match against uh Hikaru with the butt plug uh no different but this one was the non-Adlebeads one got it because Ronaldo definitely would have been the one that had the yes the Kutramon yes messy probably won that match yes yeah I think he did yeah looking at it this is a legacy cup for Messi yeah I bet on him for sure I bet on Argentina which means they will probably not make it on the group stage oh they will uh we're gonna have a big world cup preview with Taylor Trollman on Wednesday's show so get ready for that uh pft your who's back yep my who's back of the week uh I got a couple of them

first one is Joe Flacker we talked about him earlier today this tweet just came across my desk Stephen A Smith said I can't believe I'm saying this but if I were the New York Jets I'd actually bring in Joe Flacko right now Zach Wilson is giving you nothing I'm not giving up on the kid but this is too important bringing Flacko it feels like he's giving up he's giving up on so Stephen A Smith agrees with me another great football mind um so yes bring in Joe Flacko my other who's back is also the world cup we had the first game today uh but most importantly the pageantry ahead of the world cup and the opening ceremonies highlighted by FIFA's president Gianni Infantino gave a great speech he said today I feel Qatari today I feel Arab today I feel African today I feel

gay today I feel disabled today I feel a migrant worker wow it was very Michael Scott like uh the way that he chose to address this okay didn't really do anything besides just make everybody around him super uncomfortable yeah and was everyone was like what are you what are you doing man what are you doing and then they had the opening ceremony where they introduced the mascot who's just a giant like white sheet that floats around everywhere like a ghost that's cool that was kind of cool uh they had the opening uh the induction ceremony and I didn't realize this but uh but MBS from Saudi Arabia our guy uh he was hanging out right there on stage next to the head of FIFA and then yeah then it turns out that Qatar got their ass kicked to nil yeah look I mean

that's quite a quite quite a statement to give us quite a USA place today and USA place today you're going down Wales it's a fucking home Gareth Bale you'll want this don't start don't start nothing there won't be nothing mm-hmm will you say something I think you clicked in uh all right my who's back is college football chaos figuring itself out I know we talked about college football on Wednesdays but what a Saturday and the story of the day was Tennessee fans uh who I feel bad for because they I they have always been kind to me with the Doug's era but they spent the majority of the day uh expecting TCU to lose TCU did not lose then spent the middle period of the day saying TCU sucks and they would get blown out by everyone and then they got blown up by South

Carolina and it's just uh uh uh tales all this time the college football the chaos it's not always Tennessee it's someone else just when you think that you got it all figured out something like that happens and that's why it's the best sport it does figure itself out it's crazy Tennessee's defense stunk oh my god it was it was it was like a joke how bad they were Spencer Rattler looked like Spencer Rattler that we all have dreamed of yeah so but yeah now again in my uh my projected draft order I've got Spencer Rattler number one and Bonix number two yeah next year as we've all expected yeah it was uh it was a crazy day the UCLA USC game was fucking awesome Caleb Williams is insanely good yeah insanely good that was like that's I saw some people saying like why are we

talking about this next year's draft why aren't we talking about the year after with Caleb Williams yeah yeah this was a game where I saw I think it was 76 and a half as the over under and I was like yeah that's a big number but that's such a big number that I have to take the over and then it ended up getting what 93 points in that game it was crazy it was insane it was awesome it was insane sucks would happen a hidden hooker yeah at the end of that game that was tough to watch yeah that really did suck because like he's probably been awesome this year and he probably would have been like a fifth round or last year and now it looked like he was going to get up until like second maybe first round and also this year but now he gets hurt it stinks and it also was like Tennessee would

have you know they beat Vandy next week they're in a new year's sixth bowl now you don't know if you can beat Vandy Joe Milton just throws the ball 10,000 miles an hour on every pass yeah and also I mean Vandy beat Florida yeah so Vandy's kind of back stinks for Florida he's kind of back um okay that's Hank's pick right Anthony Richardson yeah that would but you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna back up my boy Hank in a rare case here uh the the victory lap that he got to do after week one was worth it because that was awesome when it was like I got him at 25 to what was it 250 to one I think it was like 25 to 19 no no that's what I went from oh yeah yeah right and you were like look at this sharp that's that's no one's good at gambling that's the fun as being like wow I got

I got value uh all right Billy my who's back is Chad Kelly and Sean Oakman yes the Toronto Argonauts are your CFL champions all right I gave it out as a pick no big deal Argonauts plus the points how drunk do you think swag Kelly's getting tonight he's he's crying currently away from the vacuum cleaners yeah he got very emotional um but crazy story McLeod Bethel Thompson the starting quarterback for the Toronto Argonauts uh hurt his hand in the fourth quarter and Chad Kelly got in the game went four for six for 43 yards and two rushes for 21 yards and mounted a game winning drive where AJ Alouette ran in the touchdown but Chad Kelly getting in the end of the game in the fourth quarter to win a championship yeah that's something that was on your school I love the CFL

this game was four to nothing at one point which is awesome yeah like it just it always looks so fucking cold and everyone's so hyped up so congrats the Argonauts 12 guys on the field on each side and three downs yeah wow and if you kick a field goal and miss it but don't get it out of the end zone is a run point yeah rude that's how it became four nothing yeah yeah yeah so this was Rob Ford's favorite team right it was so Rob Ford you have to imagine smiling down from heaven and seeing swag Kelly like Rob Ford is the Toronto Argonauts Harambe yeah yeah that's a good point he's just up there smoking crap I was gonna say Rob Ford's also the swag Kelly of mayors yeah he is it really was a touching a touching ending perfect team Sean Oakman I mean both those guys very different

types of adversity but crazy to see them winning a championship on a Sunday very cool very cool uh Jake um my who's back is coin tosses we had an interesting story out of the FCS world over the weekend oh the bracket just came out and there was a tie in first place of the Ohio Valley Conference okay Tennessee Martin and southeast Missouri state were with a five and oh they went down the whole list of tiebreakers they were all even they had to do a live streamed coin toss on twitter oh that's who got the bid and uh southeast Missouri state one was tails awesome no tails failed they called tails that's bullshit we got to call it but they did a twitter live stream for a coin toss you gotta go best out of three who could go into the tournament that's such horseshit the tails

lost that rig sucks so you know that was it Ohio Valley Ohio Valley rigged you know that's an NFL tiebreaker step 12 yeah that would that's also a big 10 tiebreaker yeah the big 10 uh if it was like an NFL draft which happens like every year right it was Penn State Ohio State Michigan if they had like done the three-way uh and they all finished the same area who had been a coin toss so you go to Indy can you imagine what it would be like if like to determine playoff seating or whether or not you make the playoffs they have a coin toss for it you you could probably sell out like a basketball arena or even a stadium sell out the stadium just for the coin toss yeah that would be incredible pay-per-view coin toss could you imagine yeah an NFL like step 12 that

would be so sick i'd watch that usually we got to like step on that i bet on that yeah i mean i bet on the coin so it rub for it yeah yeah um okay numbers 16 17 oh let's go 15 for Anthony Richardson hey have you ever gotten this no can you give me a number please he said 15 no 20 for me no come on no just one number i've had enough of your shame oh and after what you did last thursday absolutely not one number no give me a number no what's your birthday you don't remember june june june 16th or 17 16th who's to know all right i'll go 16 well 17th already taken wait i'm gonna log into our hr system well no i'll find it okay all right because i remember last year the poppy day was on a sunday night so i'll just go to june 2021

nice that's whatever i'll take whatever that sunday is which was june 13 june 13th wow fuck i knew that we need elon to bring i shouldn't know each other's birthdays yet but we used to know shut up by yours it's birthday week hank yeah what it was to do all right well we've gotten it robbed from us it's not super week anymore you won't hear about it anymore it's true um all right so i took 17 we have 13 for hanks birthday 69 18 what's yours 15 15 anthony richardson 17 just came up right yeah but we've had a lot of repeat yeah what is it what's yours 20 elon musk bring the birthdays to twitter because i don't know anyone's birthday after facebook it is on twitter i know but i

want the alerts i want the alerts everyone's picking low numbers hey you can take 13 you can take your birthday i'll do something higher i'm good sure you don't want 13 last chance yeah i mean i had the chance to say it i didn't i know but i'm giving you a chance right now to take 13 do you would you want 17 and said i'll go high i'll go high too you get to pick 13 15 or 17 which one would you like oh what if we hey what if we give you both 13 and 17 no no no no no no no deal i said what if no i never said do it would you like 13 15 or 17 i'm gonna start writing down my numbers all right you giving them to drake you get to pick 13 15 or 17 which one 15 15 okay hope you're right i'm gonna take 17 i'm i'm gonna stick with

64 oh two out of three this shit is easy oh my god this shit is easy wait that's back to back because we did tweet on friday oh wow we did do two on friday it's not back to back it's been back back shows yeah which which one was 64 was the also first one everything by pulling 97 what was back to back in the end or was it no we did the second one was in the beginning i yeah the first one i have written down a 64 but so it's two out of three we're going already figured out jake either way so tell us what's the last what's the last uh six numbers there's four numbers left no but what's the last six numbers that pulled from the from the machine let's go seven let's go let's go nine

nine okay give me the last nine 44 44 12 12 45 31 64 33 64 wow i'm telling you this machine is you can read this machine so the last nine drawings there's been you want one more hey you want one more i want one all right this one won't count 64 second play this does not count um this does not count this does not count this does not count no one gets a number we'll see everyone on wednesday extra long episode for thanksgiving 42 look you're fine love you guys love you guys no more love you guys one more love you guys bison walked towards snowstorms instead of away from them because it's shorter to get through you would have heard this last week but that's where the music goes oh that's 17 backwards that's crazy

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