Pardon My Take - NFL Week 11, Warren Sharp, And James "Buster" Corley The Creator Of Dave & Buster's
Episode Date: November 20, 2020Seahawks get their shit together against the Cardinals and Kyler is hurt (maybe) (2:24 - 7:17). Quick NBA Draft talk and Joe Judge maybe getting in a fight (7:17 - 13:10). NFL Week 11 preview, Cant Lo...se Parlay, and Fantasy Canadians (13:10 - 35:45). Catching up with Warren Sharp on which teams are frauds and which teams are for real plus a couple picks from him for Week 11 betting (35:45 - 66:15). James Buster Corley, the creator of Dave & Busters joins the show to talk about how he founded the greatest restaurant of all time, his favorite games and stories, and the famous Busters guy (66:15 - 98:17). We finish with Billy's stupid parlays and Fyre Fest of the week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Today is Friday, November 20th,
and the Seahawks defense is back slash Kyler Murray
is injured.
What we saw today was what we've been waiting
for the entire season.
They turn the corner.
They flipped the switch, I was gonna say.
They either turn the corner or flip the switch,
I'm not sure which one.
It might just be the uniforms, more than likely,
because they got Dunlap rushing the passer.
And they cheated because Dunlap's wearing number 43.
Yeah, and he looks like a running bat.
It makes no sense.
Yeah, but yeah, it's like when you watch a college player,
like Jadavion Clowney in college,
I was like, that guy's not gonna be good at the next level
because he wears number two.
I was right, he's not good anymore.
But yes, this was a, I wouldn't say it was a full on
Seahawks weird game.
No, no, let's give credit.
The Seahawks did not play a weird game
for the first time in primetime
as long as I've been watching football.
It was more of a, I think we're right,
that Cliff Kingsbury is kind of a membo.
I don't really understand what Cliff Kingsbury
was doing at the end of the game.
I don't know why they were throwing to the end zone,
like three times in a row when all they needed was
to just keep moving, like they had enough time.
Well, it's because Cliff Kingsbury is a membo
and he remembers what happened last week.
And he's like, let's just keep doing that.
Yeah, let's actually move back and try to get a hell married.
But I, yeah, the Seahawks had like a decent game.
They ran the ball okay.
I mean, neither defense is like great,
but it feels like this was more of a must win
for the Seahawks and they answered the bell,
didn't lose three in a row, three in a row.
Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll in their,
well, you know, their time together
are now eight no after two losses.
So they've never lost three in a row.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, so that stat is alive.
And that's also a mark of a really good football team,
really good coach football team
and a really good quarterback.
I'm not gonna say, do you think Russell Wilson's MVP back on?
No, no.
Sousa Wilson.
Sousa Wilson.
Did he run the ball for 165 yards?
Yeah, I think that, you know, he had a good game for sure.
And he should have had that second touchdown
to DK Metcalf, JPP Metcalf is what man you're going
because he, his hands not great.
Right in the face.
Yeah, right in the face on the second one.
But the first one to his credit had a nice touchdown catch.
And then he drew an assault.
That was an all-time boneheaded play.
All-time.
On fourth down, just like taking a swing.
Forget about the situational awareness in the game
of it being fourth and one.
But if you try to fight DK Metcalf,
you should be suspended just for your own health.
Yes.
Because you need to get your brain examined at that place.
Yes, I agree.
He's a scary big dude who's very, very muscular.
But yeah, so Seahawks back on track, Cardinals,
I don't know what.
Kyler Murray, like he definitely wasn't healthy.
Like he was, his shoulder looked,
it looked like he was bothering him all night.
And Kyler Murray, we've said this before,
but Kyler Murray is the type of guy
that when it's not working, he is just short.
Yes.
And tonight he was short.
I think he was definitely hurt.
They were shoving ice packs.
He wasn't terrible.
Which is never a good sign for a quarterback.
Yeah.
He wasn't bad, but against that Seahawks defense.
You expect more.
You got to eat a little bit if you're Kyler Murray.
Right.
I got a dumb question.
Does Russell Wilson have a specific holder
for his mouthpiece inside of the top of his face guard?
I wouldn't be surprised.
Is that customized?
Because it's always in the exact same spot.
He puts it in, then he takes it out a second
before the snap happens.
A little cup holder.
My second hot take was, I don't think
that quarterbacks with visors will win a Super Bowl ever.
Has a quarterback with a visor won a Super Bowl ever.
Billy, you played quarterback in high school.
I did not wear.
Does Nick Foles have that visor for a day?
And he was good.
Tinted or untinted?
Either way.
I feel like it gets smudgy, right?
It definitely gets smudgy.
It's a weird look.
Did Cam Newton have a visor in the Super Bowl?
Yes.
Yes, he did.
Business is up.
There we go.
He lost.
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
Yeah, you're right.
I think you're right.
Yeah, he understand how to visor.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah.
All right, should we talk a little real quick NBA draft?
I'm about to sneeze, but I'm going to hold it back.
No, you're not.
God bless you.
I got it.
I held my sneeze back.
Anthony Edwards.
I retract my God bless you.
Now, we're going to talk about some fake news
on the other side of this ad coming up
with Jason McIntyre and Joe Judge.
But that story that Anthony Edwards
brought his own food to Benihana was hilarious.
Also, all-time weird interview for Anthony Edwards
to be like, yeah, I actually like football more
because you can celebrate and stuff.
But I like that.
I actually like the answer.
Tells me that he's smart, that he likes football more.
He's a football guy.
He's also never set expectations too high.
Yeah, yeah.
And then if things go wrong, he set himself up perfectly.
Congrats, big guy.
You didn't get Obi-Toppin.
But you got a flower delivery guy, which is pretty cool.
Yep, no, the bear.
You got the six best player on a bad college team.
No, the bulls are so used to.
No, the four state was OK.
The bulls are so good.
If anyone dies on the bulls next year,
they'll have a great spread.
They're a nice bouquet.
He's like the guy from the town.
That guy was a bad florist.
Florist?
Florist, yes.
So he's going to give heroin to everybody on a bad college.
Correct, if he does it to the opponents,
we might have a chance.
No, the bulls are so good at drafting seven,
they just took what they thought was like the seventh best
player at four.
Yep.
But you can't be a fire-garpax guy
and then immediately trash the new front-offs.
And then Clay Thompson, unfortunately,
looks like he has an Achilles injury,
as first reported on Twitter many times by Hank.
Hank was very excited to break that news.
Yeah, I got a news breaking rush, hand up.
I mean, it happened on this show before.
It was because we were recording,
mid-recording of the podcast, and I got a random text.
So it was kind of a joke with the people in the room
where I was like, oh, breaking news, guys.
And then I read it, and it was like, should we tweet it?
I was like, sure, let's tweet it.
Let's see if it, you know, let's tweet it from the fancy podcast.
And then Shams tweeted it like a minute later.
So I was like, oh, shit, we were on it.
If you don't.
Turns out it was his Achilles, not his ACL, so I'm sorry.
And you know, I hope for the best for Clay Thompson.
Yeah, unless you can get clout from tweeting out
another injury of his, in which case you'll do that.
So, see, that's the thing.
It was you guys know the news breaking high.
I don't know what you're talking about.
It's a very real thing.
Wow, this is sad.
You know, you have a lot of podcasts.
This is like you guys.
He did it on his other podcast.
It was my dog.
It was Hank.
It wasn't you.
But before the Rory broke news, we
used to break news as a unit.
You guys are the ones that got me.
You guys are the ones that gave me my first.
We put the spike in you.
Yes.
Yes.
All right, well, if you want to,
you can have Norm's Dick have its own Twitter account.
And it actually.
No, but the rules talking about that dog's penis
are so confusing.
Yeah, that dog's dick is the most off-limit dog
dick in the history of dog dicks.
And then we're next thing you know, we're selling posters.
It would be very funny, though, if Adam Schefter had to say,
like, as first reported by Norm, Hank's dog's dick.
No.
Normans dick.
Normans penis.
You can never fill the shoes.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
Just let me know what the rules are.
Anything else?
The mellow ball?
What?
Oh, that is awkward that he's going to Charlotte and LeVar
ball so that he could beat Michael Jordan one-on-one.
I mean, they got to play one-on-one.
They have to play one-on-one.
And Michael Jordan will make LeVar ball cry.
And yeah, that's obi-topping.
I am a little sad, but whatever.
He's also like 22.
That's what you can do to yourself.
You can just say that.
I might start watching the Knicks again.
Oh, look at you.
Look at you, Billy.
Billy Roundball.
Seriously, they were unwashable.
Billy Roundball.
Fair weather fan.
Maybe we can get him in the studio.
I'm a New York sports fan.
I bet you obi-topping would come in for a podcast.
Yeah.
He's about your age.
That's true.
We can go out together.
Me and obi hitting the clubs.
All right, let's do this, girlfriend.
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Okay, weekend preview.
We got Warren Sharp coming up,
so we're gonna talk some football with him as well.
Before we get into the games though,
Joe Judge got in a fight with Mark Colombo, not true,
but we're gonna choose to believe it's true,
Joe Judge football guy of the year.
It would be a lot cooler if it was true.
And I really hope that there's still
some element of truth through it,
but apparently he fired Colombo,
and then Colombo took exception to that,
and then basically they titty bumped.
There was some disputation of it,
saying that they might not be even in the same building.
Yeah.
So it might have happened on Zoom,
in which case was he hitting like the reaction button,
the fist emoji?
I don't know exactly what happened.
I just saw the story.
Mark Colombo, by the way, bear for life,
but he is, I think six, eight,
I don't know how much he weighs now,
but let's call it 280 now, big fucking guy.
So Joe Judge, just the idea that Joe Judge
would possibly go at an offensive lineman,
a former offensive lineman, now offensive line coach,
means that Joe Judge has officially changed the culture
for the New York Giants,
and they are a good-ish football team.
Am I crazy to think that it's a good sign
that you've got your coach that's willing
to fight his assistants?
Yes.
I kind of like-
Probably with tennis balls taped to his hands.
I like that, because if I was a Giants player,
I look at Joe Judge, and he's not really much
to be afraid of, which is knowing
he has a little bit of craziness to him.
You kind of respect that, so I hope that it's true.
As far as coaches go, I would probably have ranked
Joe Judge towards the bottom.
I think that until I learned that he might've gotten
a fist fight with Colombo,
I would say I could probably beat up Joe Judge.
Yeah, but now that I'm thinking about it,
he is a true football guy, and running wind sprints.
Joe Judge, let's say this,
Joe Judge would not win a fight against Mark Colombo, duh.
Joe Judge probably wouldn't win a fight
against a lot of people.
Joe Judge would never be scared of getting into a fight.
Yeah, I'm not afraid to get my ass kicked.
He is, he would relish the opportunity
to get a little bit of blood on his nose
via an offensive lineman, six, eight, 300 pounds.
So I'm officially taking Joe Judge off my list
of NFL head coaches I think I could beat up.
I think the only people that are on the list right now,
I want to say Zach Taylor.
I think I could beat up Zach Taylor.
I think I could trip Romeo Cornell with a cane.
Pete Carroll and his twin.
At the same time?
Yeah, yeah, they're old.
I think Pete Carroll's a biter though.
They're very old.
But I could not beat up Kyle Shanahan.
I used to have him on my list,
but I feel like he's too flexible.
Andy Reed, you could just kind of run around
with maybe a thin rope and just like lasso him
and then he topple over.
I think if I got into a fight with Andy Reed,
I would just, I would get close to him
and I'd just be like, I can't stay mad at you.
I'd end up hugging him.
I could beat up Matt Nagy for sure.
I'd just be like, dude, your play calling sucks.
I could not beat up John Gruden
because Deuce is right next to him at all times.
And he's also just a badass.
Yeah, Deuce, well Deuce is like his pit bull
that he has on a leash next to him,
ready to attack at any given time.
Bruce Arians, you could take,
we could pretty much just take all the old guys.
I would just hide all the liquor from Bruce Arians
and let the DTs take care of him.
I think that actually would be bad.
He'd probably get so angry that he'd fuck you up.
No, his body would go into a state of convulsion.
Yeah, that's true.
Have a seizure.
All right, let's do some games real quick.
Anything we want to talk about, let's start Eagles Browns.
All I'm gonna say about this game
is this feels like a game that the Eagles are gonna win
for no reason other than that they have to win a game
that's important at some point along this way.
I looked up the weather.
It's still gonna be Cleveland weather.
Yep.
So they've got the OC.
They've got God on their side right now.
But doesn't it feel like the Eagles,
eventually they have to win an important game?
We keep saying that.
And they keep not doing it.
They might be my Falcons of 2000, whatever, 17, 16 it was,
where they haven't played their best game yet.
Eventually the Eagles have to play a good game.
I don't think it's this week.
Okay.
I like Nick Chubb too much.
Yeah, even though he fucked us over.
All right, Falcon Saints, James.
Yep.
James, James, James.
James is gonna eat this weekend.
I don't care.
Just let him, the only thing I'm worried about is that
Sean Payton says we need James to run Drew Brees' office.
No, you need James to be James.
Well, what I don't like is that they've got Michael Thomas
back and they're trying to incorporate him a lot
into the game plan.
I can't think of a wide receiver that fits
James Winston's skill set less than Michael Thomas.
Just running slants, just going as close to linebackers
as possible.
Bad.
Yeah, just tell him, I know that your captain's slant
runs straight downfield.
Go deep, go deep.
All right, Bengals, Washington football team.
Kind of a who cares game.
But maybe the Washington football team wins
and then all of a sudden they are back.
This is one of those games where both teams have it
circled on their calendar at the start of the year
as a surefire win.
Yes, yes.
Same with this one, Lions Panthers.
I feel like both teams are like, oh, this is gonna be a win.
Probably not.
Although, no Teddy and also how do you handicap
Matthew Stafford's wife going viral?
That's true.
And then apologizing.
So they're going re-viral.
PJ Walker, XFL legend, getting the start.
I think, wait, he was on the Houston Roughnecks, right?
Yep.
The second best team in the XFL.
I like the Panthers in this.
Okay.
I think Matt Ruhl is a much, much better coach.
I mean, you can always, Matt Patricia's stupidity
can always surprise you.
Always.
This is another example of how we're losing mats
when it comes to the quarterback position,
but we're gaining tons of mats on the head coaching side
to even out the universe.
You guys say that I'm hard on our friends.
Where does the line get drawn in?
Is Matt Patricia's our friend?
Matt Patricia's our friend?
He came on the broadcast.
Yeah, he did.
He just pipped the whole time.
So did Mark Screlly.
He was parading our posture.
He did.
I've got great posture.
I don't hate him.
I just think he's a defensive coordinator.
I was curious.
I was just checking.
I think that Matt Patricia is, without a doubt,
the dumbest rocket science on the face of the earth right now.
Can I say something that's very depressing,
but I'm gonna say it and I fully believe it?
Well, so if the Lions win this game,
my itty bitty run would come true.
So they would be five and five on Thanksgiving Day.
But I think if the Bears lose on next Sunday to the Packers,
I'm officially in, I know the Bears can't get a good draft
pick, but rooting for the easiest schedule.
Okay, that's good.
Last thing you've seen North to get the easiest schedule.
That will now be my new slant.
Be like, well, if they get a quarterback,
things could bounce all their way.
They could be back in 2020.
That's a big spin zone.
Steelers Jags, just a reminder,
because it needs to be said,
the Steelers are one in 10 against the spread
as a double digit road favorite under Mike Tomlin.
So Jake Luton, we're doing the Jake Luton dance.
You just gotta take the Jags against the spread.
I'm starting to embrace the fact that the Steelers are fun.
We'll talk a little bit about that
with Warren Sharp in a little bit,
but the Steelers are a fun offensive football team
and it's taken me like probably two and a half years
of them actually being electric on offense
for me to accept that fact.
Yes.
Titans Ravens, this is the official wheels fall off bowl
because the loser of this game,
the Titans go and play at the Colts.
The Ravens go and play at the Steelers.
The loser of this game will be facing three losses
in a row right in their fucking face.
The loser of the game is absolutely fraud.
I actually think, I think Baltimore wins
and I think they win easily
because the Tennessee Titans, they just stink.
They're just-
I've been, listen, I got a lot of shit
for saying that back in September.
I was wrong.
I'm mad enough to admit that I was wrong
about the Tennessee Titans.
They stink right now.
Unless they turn into feed tractor-sito,
it is tractor-sito season, right?
Are we going with that?
I think December-
Mid-November?
Mid-November should be, yeah.
It's typically when tractor-sito is going.
Clays Campbell, if he's not playing, that's a problem.
That's a problem.
Patriots Texan's Hank.
Easy.
Are you worried at all
that the Patriots are part of my Can't Lose Parley?
No, I love the Can't Lose Parley.
The Can't Lose Parley has lost a lot recently.
It's due.
Are you sure?
I think it's a Patriots runaway, 10 plus.
Okay, the Can't Lose Parley real quick.
I'm going back to the roots.
It's all money lines.
No fucking around with anything.
It's the Patriots.
It's the Chargers.
It's the Vikings and the Chiefs.
Oh, we got a hold right now.
You love the opposite of all of those.
We have a hold in Chargers, but it's just, yeah.
You love the Jets.
That's probably a win.
It's a safety.
The Vikings play the Cowboys.
That's probably a win.
Okay.
And the Chiefs are my...
I think it's the best Can't Lose Parley of the season.
Wow, Hank, I like the positivity.
I like pretty much every other underdog.
It's also set up that...
Oh, wow, that safety was huge for the point spread.
Huge.
Hank, sorry, Billy, sorry.
Very happy about that safety.
Ecstatic about it.
We're going to time travel.
You're going to hear us talking about the end of the game
at the beginning of the game.
All right, next up, Dolphins at Denver.
I kind of like the Broncos in this.
Okay, I have a couple stats for you.
Tua in the altitude.
Has Tua ever played this far above sea level in his life?
Ooh, good question.
Oxygen. I do not know.
I do not know.
Two stats for you.
Denver.
This is just a stupid stat, but I love stupid stats.
Denver.
0 and 10 against the spread since 2005
when hosting Florida teams.
Okay, all right. That's significant.
That is significant.
That's a significant stat.
Because when you think about how great Tampa,
Miami, and Jacksonville have been over the last 10 years.
That's a stupid, stupid stat.
But think about it.
Tua grew up in Hawaii.
Yep.
They have mountains, though.
In the SEC, they've got volcanoes.
I don't think they have any football fields on top of them.
You could toss one around.
We'll have to see if they do have a football stadium
on top of an active volcano there.
Yep.
They, he played in Alabama.
Obviously, SEC, there's no real,
what, Rocky Top is probably the highest elevation?
Yep.
Not going to fact check it, but it sounds true.
Yep.
And now he's in South Florida.
Yeah.
I think this is his first time dealing with low oxygen.
Okay.
Two years ago, the natty was in Santa Clara.
No.
No.
Not close to Colorado.
That's very close to sea level.
Very close.
Very close.
You should just take the 405.
They should put one of those little oxygen meters
on his finger during the game.
Because I bet that sucker dips below 90.
Yes.
And then here's stat number two.
So since 2006, that's when QBR was created.
Drew Lock is on pace for the 426th out of 456th
worst QBR ever.
Of any quarterback.
Yes.
456, QBR is ranked.
So I think there's a, you don't have to play
a certain amount of games.
And Drew Lock would be 426 out of 456.
Now do the fourth quarter only.
He's number one.
Much higher.
He's number one.
Much higher.
Drew Lock, garbage time king.
Also he's still going to be hung over
from watching the Yeezy Gucci Man versus.
Yes.
All right, Jets Chargers, Justin Herbert's hair.
That, I didn't mind it.
I did not mind Justin Herbert's hair.
He looks, his hair was his, was the defining thing.
His hair was like, ooh, you know, his hairs looks cool.
I like that now.
He's a good hair guy.
He looks like he plays Clint Eastwood's son
in a movie set in the 50s.
I like that.
He looks, he looks like a bully.
Troubled youth is what I would say.
He looks like the older brother in Stand By Me right now.
I like it.
And I respect the fact that he had his strength
and conditioning coach buzz his head with clippers.
And he didn't go.
Okay, that changes it.
And he'd go to the team doctor, which is smart
because his head would have looked like
John F. Kennedy's afterwards.
That's smart.
Yeah.
That's smart.
Okay.
Packers, Colts.
What, Billy?
He kind of looked like Brandon Dacey.
He did.
A little bit.
He had a little bit of a vibe of like, hey, this kid,
you know, like he kidnapped a five year old
and bashed his head in with a rock.
But all business though.
Yes.
But all business.
Send Justin Herbert to WrestleMania, please.
Packers, Colts.
This is actually just, I'm excited for this game.
It's a big test.
I think this is a, we will find out who is a good team
out of these two teams.
I feel like I've been saying that every week about the Colts.
Yeah.
But this is a real like, I do think the Colts will have
issues with Aaron Rodgers, but vice versa.
I think the Packers defense is going to have some issues
with the Colts offensive line.
I just, I'm excited to watch this game.
And it's a late game.
Hank, you have four late games.
Is that okay?
It's great.
Okay.
Cowboys Vikings.
I'm going to withhold judgment until I know
if the roofs open or close in that roof.
Roof closed.
I like the Colts roof open.
I like the Packers.
Totally fair.
Cowboys Vikings, Vikings better win by a hundred.
Cause I have them in my can't lose parlay
and also to get the truck.
This might be like down game.
This might be from the Bears.
Yeah.
I mean, sure.
It also, I do think there is, this is a,
one of my dumb theories, but I do think when you play
a good defense and then you play a bad defense,
everything just looks easier and everything feels easier.
So I think the Vikings will have a lot easier time.
I don't know.
I like the Vikings taking the Vikings.
Yeah.
No, I am too.
All right.
And then last Chiefs Raiders, the bus game.
So the Chiefs took, or sorry, the Raiders took victory laps
around Arrowhead when they beat the Chiefs.
And apparently the Chiefs are perturbed by that.
I do think that, and you read off a buy,
and this is right when we're going to start being like,
oh yeah, the Chiefs are way better than everyone.
This is a game where Patrick Mahomes
throws for five touchdowns.
Right.
It's the start of the Chiefs being like, yeah,
they're the best team in the league.
There are going to be three touchdowns this week
where it's going to take you three seconds
after the play is over to be like, is that Mikkel Hardman
or is that one of the other guys that looks exactly
like Mikkel Hardman?
Wide open guys.
Yeah.
I did love John Gruden and I didn't realize this
in real time, but against the Broncos on last Sunday,
he ran the ball 11 straight times.
Yeah, he loves that shit.
That's awesome.
He loves it, but I don't think that's going to work
against games.
No, I just respect anyone who does that.
I respect any coach that does that.
I like the fact that John Gruden did tell his bus driver
to just circle the Sadie.
Keep circling.
That's the ultimate.
They're like, John, we're going to miss our flight.
No, just keep circling.
This is too important right now.
Nah, I'm going to soak this shit in.
Like buzzards around a carcass.
That was a big win.
What are you going to say, Jake?
To the Al-Michael's Vegas references,
because their first NBC game got switched to the box.
That's true.
Oh, yeah.
Is this the first time we're going
to get to see Allegiant Stadium at night?
No, because we are.
Week two, we had.
Oh, yeah, yeah, the Raiders Saints.
Yeah, that was Monday, but Al-Michael's excited.
That's when I fell in love with that weekend.
Yes, yes.
So I'm excited for that game.
Great Sunday coming up.
Great Sunday.
And just throwing an extra, if Wisconsin loses
Northwestern, I will be blocking Darren Revelle.
I think that's more than all for you.
And I'm excited for Bedlam.
And I'm excited for Indiana to still get hyped.
I'm just excited to see the name Penix on the screen
multiple times on Saturday.
Just do it.
What a great name that Penix Jr.
Do it once, do it once.
All right, let's get to Fantasy Canadians,
a little new spin.
And then we will have Warren Sharp and Buster.
It should be, you know what it should be.
Fantasy, like A.
Fantasy, Canadians.
All right, let's do it.
Hank, does he have a last name, A?
Hey, how are you there?
It's just Buster to me.
Always will be.
I got to get back in this voice.
All right, boys.
It's my name is Spinner Mason.
Spinner.
Spinnie.
Spinmeister.
Spinster.
Spinarama.
My stardom is salt.
Salt.
Salt, it's going to get a little snowy here
in the coming five, 10 months, because it's always
snowing up here in Canada.
Yeah, it's yeah.
You just need some salt to put on the roads.
Not too much to get from 8.8 to point B.
No, not too much salt.
And you can't get from home to the coffee drink,
can't get a good edge with your skate there.
My sit-em.
Yeah?
Melvin Gordon.
Oh, Gordo.
Take it easy.
Have a seat, Pat.
Big name.
He's not much of a drive-in over.
They're going up against the Dolphins defense this week.
If he's on your team, he's a big name,
but you want to put him on your bench.
That sounds like real fantasy advice there.
Spinner is Averlovin.
Oh.
Which one were you talking here?
The original or the new ski?
The original.
The original is from Canada.
She's our home.
She's our big daughter.
She died about 10 years ago back then.
Yeah, got impaled on Chad Progress Cat.
No, no, no.
Averlovin, she is my sleeper.
She's a beautiful queen.
What's your accent?
You just lost it.
He's got manitoba.
Now, I'm losing it.
I'm from Toronto, eh?
Far west, manitoba.
OK, thank you there.
What's your name again?
Spinner Mason.
Spinner.
Oh, my real Canadians know what that means.
Oh, shit.
Did you just do something cool, some hip?
It's one of these sexy things now.
I'm an old guy.
I don't know.
I don't have the intercourse anymore.
Spinner, like meat spinners?
Dean or no, one of the biggest playboys in Canada's history.
Oh, wow.
OK, nice.
I'm, hey, hey, partners, I'm Wayne McMillorman.
Nice.
I'm starting this weekend.
I'm starting Flapjacks.
You're not good at coming up with a big name, then.
I'm starting Flapjacks now, they're good as gold.
He actually said he had a great name.
He said I need to do it because I got a great name.
Wayne O. McMillorman.
We got Flapjacks on the menu this weekend at the Wayne House.
We go in fluffy syrup pucks and you flip them,
turn them into your favorite shapes.
Just a real treat for the whole family.
Make a maple leaf of them.
Make a silver dollar shape.
You name it.
It's always good to fill up on chow.
Nice, little chow, little poutine.
I'm sitting in Canadian Thanksgiving.
Take a seat now.
We've had our turn.
We had our turn in October.
Now it's time to smile for our neighbors down south
when they put their cornucopia on all the score bugs
and all the graphics on the local news channel,
and the transmissions there.
It's good to celebrate and to share Thanksgiving
with our neighbors to the south.
When does the night come?
I don't think they cancel that.
That's bullshit.
Yeah, I haven't heard about it.
My sleeper is Chase Playful.
He's Canadian.
You know that?
Yeah, I did.
Oh, Chaser's Canadian.
We don't call him a stealer.
We call him a borrower.
That's a little Canadian neighbor.
That's what his name translates to running from the pool
to play.
Oh, that's a funny one.
That's a good one, spinner.
Thank you.
Talk about a catch gradient on this guy.
I hate to go ice fishing next to him.
Spinster.
All right, my what's up, guys?
I'm Graham Gordon.
Hey, Grammy Gord.
Graham.
How are you?
Name Gordo.
Oh, you just did a spinster spinner or something.
You actually did a real name.
So why don't you go Frick yourself, buddy?
Watch out.
Don't use the CK word.
I'm sorry.
I've got to pull off the handle there for a second.
All right, my stardom is Luke Wilson.
Is he in the NFL still?
No.
Well, I'm going to stardom because I love that guy.
He's one of my favorite guys in the world.
You're incorrect now.
I believe he just got to try out for the Pracky Squad.
There we go.
Baltimore Ravens.
I support all the Canadian guys in the NFL, especially
the ones that aren't in the NFL.
All right, what?
My sit-em is Timbits.
You've got to make sure that you get your weight down
a little bit before Thanksgiving here,
so maybe cut out the Timbits this weekend.
No, thank you.
I'll take a pass on your sit-em.
And then my sleeper is, don't sleep on this one, guys.
Bedlam.
It's a little bit of crazy.
It's crazy down in Oklahoma.
They do this game called Bedlam.
They all get wild and crazy, but that's
going to be a great game on Saturday,
so I'm not sleeping on that one.
If you don't take you over in Bedlam,
you're a die-hard sucker.
Yeah, you're a real poo-poo pants.
Hey, how are you, guys?
It's Bill Muskooth from Sysketchewan.
My stardom is poutine.
You know, it gets a little poutine.
Put the gravy on it.
You don't sound Canadian there.
You sound like my stardom in Sysketchewan Rough Riders.
Are you rushing?
Are you from Alabama?
Oh, shit, I'm a Russian agent, I'm sorry.
My sleeper is the vancouverm of teaming,
which is just a cup of naikwil.
That sounds tasty now.
Sleepy.
Stay healthy.
That's my COVID cure.
It's a nice, warm teaspoon full of naikwil
that'll cure what else you get to sleep like a baby.
There it is.
I think the food's getting called here.
I'm getting a phone call.
Can I pick it up?
Hello there.
Hello there.
Oh, OK, we'll be right down, OK?
OK, see you soon.
All right, well, I guess that we're
going to have to eat the food.
Yeah, yeah, that's Canadian fantasy Canadians.
Fantasy Canucks.
Fantasy Canucks.
Let's know.
We'll see if that works.
I don't know, I always like doing the Todd and Gordo voices.
We haven't done it a fucking long ass time.
Super Bowl last year, I think.
It's a long ass time.
Shout out to our guy, Greg Kittle.
All right, let's get to our interview.
We have Warren Sharp, a little football talk,
and then we are going to do James Buster Curly.
Just Buster.
Buster.
He's Buster.
Nice name, right?
Nice name, right?
Corley.
He is Buster from Buster.
James Buster Corley, awesome interview
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And now, here is our good friend, Warren Sharp.
Okay, we now welcome on our good friend,
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He's all over the place.
We're going to talk a little football.
We're going to kind of, you know,
we do this every month, catch up with what's going on.
So let's start with, and we're going to tape,
we're taping this on Thursday night.
We're going to run it on Friday.
So it's before the game tonight,
the Seahawks Cardinals game.
But let's start there.
Obviously, this can all sound outdated.
But if you're, we've been talking about it.
Russell Wilson has not looked great the last few weeks.
The Seahawks defense is abysmal.
What is the fix for the Seahawks and is there a fix?
So I don't know the fix on defense.
I do know that the last time that they played the Arizona
Cardinals, they did not have Jamal Adams.
So Jamal Adams being there might help a little bit.
You obviously have to try to do your best to contain
Kyler Murray and prevent him from running the football
and doing damage on the ground.
So Jamal, they could try to use Jamal as like a little bit
of a spy because they have been playing him down
in the box a little bit more.
But it's tough on that side of the ball.
I really don't know if there is a legitimate fix
because their personnel are bad.
So I don't know really what you can do
to fix your personnel issues.
What you can do offensively, though,
is help your defense a little bit
by making that opposing offense more predictable.
And that's, you've got to get these leads and maintain them.
And they've obviously struggled to do that
since they came off the bye.
I remember them heading into the bye
and they were undefeated.
And I was like, wow, they've got it early bye.
It's only week six.
I wonder how they're going to deal with that
because they were rolling up until that point.
And they said, well, we like it.
We like because we think we're going to get guys back healthy.
But they've dropped three out of the last four games
since they came off that bye.
The only win was over the 49ers who were terrible,
very injured.
And Jimmy G left that game.
He was playing hurt to start with as it turned out.
And he ends up leaving that game.
I think part of the, part of their defense
is going to look a little bit better
when you get past this Arizona game.
Because once you're done with this Arizona game,
you're going to play four teams,
three of which are from the NFC East,
that should make your defense look a lot better.
The Eagles, the Giants and the Washington football team.
You also have the Jets sprinkled in.
So a little Adam Gase action.
So I think the defense is going to look a little bit better
from that perspective.
Offensively, they look good.
Their last game out against the Arizona Cardinals
in the first half, especially,
they had a 10 point lead at halftime.
Only had three third down attempts
and like 18 first downs, which is really good.
We want to stay out of third down.
But the problem for that game later on,
and then for the last couple of opponents,
is that one of the things that teams are doing
for doing against Seattle is not crowding the box
on early downs.
They're daring the Seahawks to run the football.
So they're playing coverage and they're like,
we know you guys have changed up this year.
You want to pass the ball a lot more in early downs.
Fine, we're going to flood the coverage.
We're going to dare you to run the football.
And it's going to be up to Pete Carroll and to Russell
Wilson as to how much they do want to say fine.
We loved running, but we loved passing,
but we got opportunities to run the ball here.
So that'll be interesting to see tonight
against the Cardinals as well as over the next couple of games.
So when it comes to their running game,
they've been minus Chris Carson for a while.
He's a really good running back.
I've had like a weird little obsession with Chris Carson
ever since he was drafted.
I always thought since that first preseason game,
like this guy is a top 10 running back in the NFL
when he's healthy.
He's not healthy that often, but is the reason
that the Seahawks aren't running the football
because they don't have Chris Carson as backups
or like that significant of a drop off?
Or is Pete Carroll just taking the whole let
Russ cook thing and just over adapted
and that pendulum is going to take a while to swing back?
Well, I hope it takes a while to swing back.
I hope it's not something that happens suddenly
because this is what they needed to do for a while now.
I mean, last year in the postseason, Chris Carson
was also injured and they were still running the ball
in the playoff game with Travis Homer and Marshawn Lynch.
I mean, I don't know what they were even thinking
at that point in time.
And it's crazy to imagine that that team still
was run heavy on the road in the, in Green Bay
in the postseason and now they completely flip the switch.
But I've been begging for them to do this exact thing
for a couple of years now is,
you got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
Let him throw the ball on early downs.
You need to try to build leads.
Stop trying to come back in the fourth quarter.
So without Carson, yes, runs are less efficient.
It's still though, it doesn't necessarily matter
the exact running back.
And we see that with the Carolina Panthers
with Christian McCaffrey and how well
Mike Davis has been doing more of an impetus
is on when you call the run.
And if you call a run in a smart situation to run the ball,
which is when the box is light or down in the red zone
or in short yardage situations,
that is when you're going to have the most production.
It doesn't necessarily matter who the back is.
Some guys are obviously more talented than others,
better at breaking tackles than others.
So you might get a little bit more production there.
But I think that as long as they're calling runs
when it's efficient to run the football
and not running into stack boxes on first down,
they still should be somewhat successful.
But you're right, getting Chris Carson back
will make a difference for them.
I want to talk about the Steelers real quick
because I feel like when we talk about the Steelers,
we always give a lot of credit to their defense
and their defense is good and they've been good for a while.
But they're sneaky, kind of a fun offensive football team.
And you don't always think about that
when you talk about Pittsburgh Steelers offense.
Back in the day, it was just like,
give the ball the running back, get four yards,
repeat until you win by 20 to 17.
But they're putting up points.
Has Mike Tomlin done anything significantly different
in his play calling this year as opposed to years past?
Obviously throwing away the games
that Ben Rothlesberger wasn't the quarterback last year.
Yeah, well, they brought in a guy named Matt Canada
and you guys know him from college
because I know you guys are college football hounds.
And so Matt Canada is really good with pre-snap motion out.
They're still hardly using any play action.
I still don't quite understand
how they can't improve that usage
because they're one of the worst teams in the NFL
that actually using it.
And then when they use it,
it's basically like a throwaway type situation.
They could design some things to make that part
of the game playing a little bit more efficient.
But what they are doing more of
is a lot more pre-snap motion
and they've got more wide receivers out on the football field
because they've got some good wide receivers.
They're actually healthy right now.
So that's when you would want to use them.
And so Ben's becoming more of like a facilitator
and it's your distributor of the football
is working out really well for that offense.
Granted, they haven't played too stiff of competition,
but let's just take, you know,
we talked about the play calling of the Seattle Seahawks
and I focus a lot on play calling
because players definitely help win and lose games,
but game plans themselves can help win or lose games
before the games even start.
And one of the things that I loved about the Steelers
from what I saw last week is you guys remember,
Ben Rotsperger had those double knee,
whatever happened to him in the Dallas Cowboys game
where I love the picture that Big Cat always tweets out
where Ben's wrapped up with the ACE bandages
and the Knights Packs all over himself
anytime he starts talking about his injuries.
But he left the game for a little while, comes back,
wins the game in Dallas,
but he's dealing with these double knee injuries.
Then he's on the COVID list due to close contact.
So he's not even at the facility,
he's not even practicing the entire week.
Now some coaches may take those two things and say,
well, maybe we should design a little bit more
of a run heavy game plan.
And then other coaches may also look at the weather forecast
and say, man, it looks like it's actually gonna be pretty
windy, there's some gusts here in the forecast
against the Bengals last Sunday in Pittsburgh.
Maybe we should factor that in along with our quarterback,
not even being in the facility
and design a more run heavy game plan.
But you know what the Steelers offense did?
They went 75% of their plays were passes
through the first three quarters of that game.
They were up 22 to seven at halftime.
And even in the third quarter of that game
against the Bengals, they still passed the ball
on 76% of their offensive plays.
This shows me that they know a run game is not great
and we're not gonna force the issue.
Their past defense sucks.
We're gonna pass the ball because we've got a good quarterback
that we trust and Ben was playing well
and they continue to pass.
I think that's a perfect example
of designing a smart, intelligent game plan
before the game even happens, not getting scared,
not doing the conservative thing,
but attacking the opponent's weakness,
which is the Bengals pass defense and their pass rush,
which is terrible, which I think is gonna help
Alex Smith a lot this week.
I'm actually excited to watch your Washington football team
this week at PFT, but I think the Steelers
are a legitimate team and right now they are in a dogfight
with the Kansas City Chiefs for that single possession
of that first round by.
There's only one this season
and only one of these two teams is going to get it.
There's only one loss between them thus far.
Great rematch game Sunday night in Las Vegas
for the Chiefs and obviously the Steelers need to avoid
a look ahead against the Jacksonville Jaguars team
because next Thursday they host on Thanksgiving
the Baltimore Ravens.
And that game is going to be massive obviously
for their ability to win the division
as well as futures in general
and them getting the first round by.
They can't afford to look past lowly Jaguars
to take it on the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving.
Matt Canada was the guy who put up 70 against Nebraska
in the big 10 championship game
when he was offensive coordinator for Wisconsin
for a single year.
He basically took the play calling away from Brett Bieleman
and they put up 70 on Nebraska.
All right, so you mentioned the Ravens.
I assume you heard the interview where Lamar Jackson
essentially said like defenses
are calling out our plays beforehand.
Do you see that with Greg Roman?
Cause something similar happened in San Francisco
when they were explosive, new, innovative
with Colin Kaepernick then it kind of regressed a little.
Is that happening right now?
Or is it more that they just don't have the talent
wide receivers missing pieces on offensive line,
et cetera, et cetera.
Well, it's a combination.
I think they need to change their philosophy a little bit.
I wanted to see the start of the season
a little bit more ability for Lamar
to come to the line of scrimmage in audible
based upon how many men were in the box.
And if he's not getting favorable looks,
get out of those plays.
But so often Lamar comes to the line
and just, you know, they just call the play
that whatever's been called regardless of how the defense
appears to be matching up with them.
So that would help.
But I do sense a little bit of the predictability,
but sometimes it's like the defensive players
are just guessing right.
And it's not necessarily giving them
that big of an advantage,
but it's enough to make the quarterback frustrated,
you know, which I think that Lamar is.
The other thing that defenses are doing differently this year
is they're playing a lot more man coverage.
And so they're daring,
they're trying to give extra defenders the ability
to get into the box as necessary
and making Lamar beat them in man coverage.
And Lamar is great in zone
when he can use some of those play actions
and find guys in the gaps in the zone and hit them.
But in man coverage is a lot more difficult
when guys aren't reacting to the play action.
And it's also a lot more of a challenge for him
because you're down some of the key blockers
that you have in the run game.
So your runs are no longer being quite as productive.
They actually need to be passing the ball more on first down.
They have one of the highest run rates on first down.
Lamar, I mean, this might surprise you
because it surprised me.
If you look at the numbers themselves,
Lamar has better efficiency when he passes the ball
on first downs this year than he did last year.
But the team is running the ball more this year
and the runs are far less efficient than they were last year.
They're down a run blocking tight end,
Boyle who just got hurt recently.
They were down multiple offensive linemen
because some got hurt, some weren't here for this season.
Yanda was in here.
So they've got new pieces there
that weren't there to start the season as well as last year
and something that they're gonna have to overcome.
But I think this offense is still a work in progress
trying to make up for some of those losses in personnel
and adjust to the adjustments that the defenses have made
to try to slow them down.
It makes sense.
What about Dan in New Orleans this week?
It's gonna be interesting because Drew Brees
is out with a shoulder injury, right?
Correct?
Yeah, shoulder injury.
A really bad shoulder injury.
Maybe if Sean Payton punctured his lung.
Maybe a bruised rib.
But this is, it's interesting
because they've got obviously Jamis and Tasem
and last year we saw something similar where Teddy came in
and he was the guy.
It was like a mixture of Teddy and then Tasem.
And it was like, it was a little conservative
at times with Teddy.
But are they going to see this matchup with the Falcons
and be like, we're gonna let Jamis cook
or whatever the, let Jamis eat.
Are they gonna let Jamis eat against this Falcons defense?
Or is it gonna be pretty conservative?
Well, I will tell you, interestingly today,
Alvin Kamara was not at practice.
And I heard that he was limited on Wednesday with an ankle.
So it's going to be interesting if he can go
because he's the type of guy,
even though he's running back,
completely changes the game plan, right?
Like you can try to work around
not having Michael Thomas as a receiver,
but Alvin Kamara does so much in both the run in the past
that it'll be very difficult.
So I'm still optimistic that he's going to play.
I've heard nothing to say otherwise,
but anytime a guy practices one day
and then the next day he does not practice,
not necessarily a great sign for his availability,
but we'll pretend for the purposes of this discussion
that Kamara is up there
because we haven't heard yet, he's not.
It is going to be much different
having a quarterback like Jamis than Teddy
because I feel like Teddy really follows in line,
follows in line with what the coach wants to see happen,
where he wants the read to be,
where he wants that ball thrown,
and pretty much like managing the offense,
the right way.
Whereas I feel like Jamis wants to prove himself
a little bit more.
Right, I know what you're, yeah.
Yes, Jamis is a wild stallion.
Yes.
That's a very diplomatic way of putting it.
Teddy listens to his coaches and will make good throws.
And sees linebackers.
And Jamis is Jamis.
Yeah.
Jamis is Jamis.
I'm excited to see Jamis in a full game
with the Lasik though,
because maybe we see a totally new eyelid gets turned over here
and we get to see a much better Jamis,
but there's no doubt they're going to have to dial things back
a little bit more because you're right.
You can't, if you don't have Drew there,
you can't turn the ball over.
And this Falcons defense,
that secondary was there young to start the season.
Then they had a bunch of injuries.
Some guys missed some time with COVID issues as well.
They're getting healthy
and they're really playing hard
under their interim head coach.
And I think they're doing a really good job,
much different defense right now
than they were at the middle point of the season.
And it's not going to be a step over for Drew,
for the Saints without Drew Brees to really take it to them.
Yeah.
Reem Morse.
I mean, they are playing a lot better defense.
Give us, and you're going to make some people mad,
but that's okay.
Give us your fraud alert teams.
Give us a couple of teams
that their record is probably looking okay,
but there's some suspect things going on.
And it can be, it can be simply
that they just don't have enough to get to the Super Bowl.
So it's not saying they're not going to get to the playoffs
or they're going to, you know, not, whatever.
They can get to the playoffs,
but you see some things that are going to rear
their ugly heads when the rubber meets the road
and they get to January football.
Well, it's more difficult right now
because it was a lot easier a month ago.
I did call out the Tennessee Titans at that point in time.
I got some flack after that as soon as they won a game.
And they really haven't looked all that great
since that point in time, right?
So I'm not going to come back and say I was right,
but I do think the Titans are a team
that needs to change their philosophy a little bit
when it comes to run past,
when they go up against a good run defense,
throw the ball a little bit more on early downs.
And you may see that it opens things up
for Derek Henry later in the game.
He always seems to turn it on later in the game anyways,
but don't get yourself in a hole
like they were doing at some points to the Colts.
Remember that game last Thursday against the Colts,
they came out and they threw the ball on the first drive
to work the ball down the field.
They had three first down passes
to work the ball down the field.
Only one Derek Henry run the entire drive,
put up seven points.
After that, they went 60% run the rest of the way
and their runs were not very effective at all.
They got themselves in a hole.
The same type of thing happened against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So this is a team when you're talking about
can they go the distance in the AFC in the postseason
when you might be facing some teams like that,
like the Colts or like the Steelers,
you've got to come out throwing the ball a little bit more.
So I still am going to keep them up there.
The Raiders are an interesting team.
I can't wait to see what happens this week.
I mean, everybody's so upset with this bus situation.
And I think this bus situation is one of the best things
that's happened this season
because we get like a little rivalry
and then we got Groot and Blame in the bus driver.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have discussed this
a fair amount or will,
but this has been a crazy situation in Denver.
Sorry, in Vegas this weekend.
But I think that this team, I don't know, I like Carr.
They had some edges with Carr
in the game against the Chiefs to last go around
because of the way that the Chiefs defense was playing.
They were daring Carr to throw over the top
and he was beating them and he was doing that.
I still don't think that this team is a team
that's going to go far in the postseason,
even though they're six and three.
A team in the NFC,
that I would probably say the same thing too.
We obviously should at some point, Packers.
Did you just whisper the Bears or the Packers?
The Bears are frauds, they suck.
The entire big difference.
The entire premise of asking you this question
was to get you to say that the Packers are soft
and that the Giants can beat them in the playoffs.
Packers.
I think this game, so I do want to talk about the Bears
with the big cabinet.
No, they suck, they suck Warren.
I just want to talk to you about the play calling
with Matt Nagy and Laser.
But with regard to the Packers,
this is going to be a fascinating game this weekend.
Will or won't Devonte Adams be able to play?
I think that their defense,
I know they get a couple of corners back,
but I think their defense is somewhat soft
and finesse a little bit.
I think that you can have some success on this defense.
Offensively though, if Aaron Rodgers gets protection
against the Colts,
the Colts are set up to stop the run
and they're set up to like with their great linebackers
of stopping maybe your tight ends
or your running back passes.
But if you have Adams up
and if you have Lazard back and playing,
I don't know, at least 45% of their snaps,
he's going to be on account.
He's not 100% healthy,
but they're going to be able to attack this Colts defense
in a way that most offenses that have played the Colts haven't.
So I don't think the Colts have this top five defense
that no offense is going to have success against.
We saw what Baker Mayfield was able to do
against these guys.
I think the Packers should be able to have
a little bit of success through the air here.
But in general, I do think that the Packers,
while still a very good team are a team
that probably will have a little bit of difficulty
when it gets late in the season.
Like that.
Okay, with the Bears,
it's interesting because you said Matt Lazard.
I don't know if that was a full Lazard.
I don't know if that was a Freudian slip
because when I was watching the game,
I was like, they gave a play calling
and it looks exactly like Matt Nagy's play calling.
So are they the same person
or was there actually a difference between Nagy
and Lazard's play calling on Primetime?
I was actually more frustrated with what I saw
on Primetime than I was with Matt Nagy.
And I was frustrated as shit
with what I saw from Matt Nagy.
Like this is a team that goes out and drafts tight ends.
They bring in tight ends.
They have a shitload of tight ends on the squad.
And if you look at the data,
it clearly shows that they're significantly better
passing the ball from 12 personnel.
What does 12 personnel do?
It gives the appearance of a potential run.
It also adds an extra tight end to have in there.
One running back to tight ends, you're exactly right.
And those tight ends can help in pass pro at times.
And you're obviously-
Ah, not Jimmy Graham.
Good point.
Not Jimmy Graham.
Are we considering when you do the 12 personnel
or are we counting Jimmy Graham
or is that 11 and a half personnel?
It sort of is 11 and a half
because he does not line up in line to run block very often
or to even pass pro.
But the point remains that these guys are great
when they throw out a 12
and they're terrible when they throw out of 11.
And so what did they do in the game on Monday night?
33 drop backs.
Only three times did they have
less than three wide receivers out on the field.
My mind was completely blown
by how heavy they went to three wide receivers.
When you're three wide receivers
aren't even great beyond Alan Robinson
and you're much better passing the ball from 12.
The other thing that I want these guys to do, big cat
and just pay attention to it the rest of the way
because I know you and I were talking back and forth
during the game.
The whole concept of play action
and throwing the ball behind to the line of scrimmage
is unsuccessful.
It does not work.
Play action gets the linebackers to hesitate in their drop
to come up and stop the run
to keep their eyes in the backfield.
When you then throw the ball in front of those linebackers
close to the line of scrimmage,
you know, short of the line of scrimmage or close to it.
Those linebackers are already headed in that direction.
The efficiency is much worse.
The goal of play action needs to be tossed the ball
above the linebackers heads
and that's what they weren't doing.
Every single pass was play action, throw it short
and the defense rallies up and smothers them.
I didn't understand what the Bears are doing
but I will just tell you this,
don't absolve Matt Nagy just because Bill Laser
didn't do a good job calling plays.
The play calling was a problem before.
It's still a problem just because two guys
don't call plays well,
does not make the first guy right.
And yes, the team needs a lot of help.
And yes, the GM is to blame for most of this
but I still feel like this team
is wasting a defense completely.
And I wanted to see what their offense
would be able to do with good play calling.
I thought that was gonna be Monday night
against the Vikings, unfortunately it was not.
No, they stink, they stink.
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So a team that is maybe not great record wise,
but you could see them having a good
November, December stretch and getting into the playoffs
and everyone would be like, whoa,
that was kind of crazy where that came from.
Yeah, unfortunately, there are really only a couple
of teams that stand out.
So they're pretty obvious to anybody.
It's gonna be the Minnesota Vikings
could continue this run.
Now I was on there under before the season started.
I was not surprised at all that they started that way.
They do have a somewhat easy stretch for several weeks.
And so that's a team that could obviously continue
doing what they do.
This Dallas Cowboys game though,
a lot of interesting components in this game
because you've got a lot of familiarity here.
Remember Mike Zimmer used to coach Andy Dalton,
who's the Cowboys quarterback.
Remember that Mike McCarthy,
who's now Dallas's head coach for years went up against
Mike Zimmer's defense in Minnesota.
So you've got like a lot of familiarity
between multiple people involved here
that have key roles in deciding the outcome of this game.
But if Dallas can stop the run,
their defense has to do a lot better.
They're fifth worst stopping the run on the season.
If they can stop the run here,
I really think that they're gonna be able to exploit
some things in this Vikings defense
that other teams that have played Minnesota recently
have been unable to do.
But I'll still throw the Vikings on this list.
And then I could easily go and say
the New England Patriots could get back on track.
But I'm still gonna stick with the Philadelphia Eagles,
even though they are a disaster
and lost that game to the New York Giants.
My belief still with the Eagles
is that if you simplify life for Carson Wentz,
reduce the amount of deeper drops
where he's running all around in the pocket
and trying to do all these complicated things.
Just drop back and throw the ball.
Let the receivers do some work after they catch it.
Get the it into their hands, get it out of your hands.
They've got Miles Sanders back.
He was a big upgrade.
You could see it right away.
The punch that he provides,
running the football that they didn't have without him.
Multiple other guys along the offensive line are back.
You're gonna have your tight ends back.
Zach Orts will be back soon.
We already have Dallas Goddard back in the fold.
Jaylen Ragers back.
So I just think they're getting healthy at the right time.
So they're a team that obviously has a losing record.
I think there's still a game up in the NFC
due to their record right now.
Because there's three, five, and one.
And yeah, the tie.
So this could be definitely a team
that we're gonna see hosting a playoff game.
And all I can tell you is this.
The other teams in the NFC playoffs
are not gonna wanna go on the road.
The wildcard teams are not gonna wanna go on the road
too filling in the postseason
when they're playing healthy,
when they're healthy and playing hopefully better
than they are now and have to deal with
facing the Eagles there in the postseason.
It's interesting.
They're gonna play the Giants.
Yeah, we think Giants are.
Oh, you got the Giants.
They're Deas-ish.
Danny Dimes.
Yeah, good-ish.
But I like kind of the stat that you alluded to.
Like the less time that Carson Wins has the ball
in his hands over the course of a football game,
the more likely the Eagles are to win.
Like there are some quarterbacks that you think of like
Ben Rothlesburg is probably the exact opposite.
The longer he holds on to it and buys time back there,
probably the more points they end up scoring.
But Wins, I like that idea.
It's like, if you can just get the ball out of his hands
and into somebody else's hands, it's safer
and their offense is probably gonna be better off for it.
And the same thing is true for Washington.
Not to interrupt you, but just to share this week
because that's your team.
Alex Smith, I've studied his drop backs
over the last couple of weeks as a starter
and he's taken a lot of three and five step drops
from Shotgun and those are very inefficient for him.
The defense has a lot of time to pressure.
The pressure, it's like 40, 45% when he's dropping back.
And we know, I mean, he's coming back from a horrendous injury.
I'm shocked he's even playing like he is
and be able to run around like he is.
I mean, I think it's almost a miracle,
but you're inviting pressure when you do that.
And you have a lot of receivers on that team
that are really good after the catch.
So the goal for them should just be to get the ball
out of his hands quickly.
It doesn't have to be deep balls down the field,
dial a few of those up, yes, but a lot of shorter passes.
Now the Bengals have been very good defending running backs
out of the backfield.
So you're probably not going to see quite as many,
like McKissick has just been eating targets left and right.
The guy's a maniac because of how much Alex Smith
dumps the ball to him.
But I wonder if they're going to get a little bit more
to the wide receivers and 11 personnel on these quicker
drop backs get out of Alex Smith's hand
because one of the things he has not lost,
his brain, his decision making,
his ability to manage that offense.
So utilize that and get the ball out of his hands quickly
to minimize the impact of his legs on the game.
I like it.
Yeah.
Use Terry McLaurin, underrated guy.
Yes.
Yes.
Very.
Yes.
All right.
Anything else we should look for this weekend?
Maybe you don't want to give us a pick, but give us a pick.
Actually, I'm giving away everything.
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So all the fantasy, we got writeups on all of the games
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are going to be posted there as well.
So there's a few games I really liked.
One of the games that I really liked,
I actually liked the over in this Washington game.
It was at 45.
It's now up to 47.
But the rest of the games are up there on the site.
But I think Washington should have some success
throwing the ball and moving the ball on the Bengals.
And we know Joey covers.
Like Joe Burrow is just going to be chucking the ball a ton.
As long as he can deal with that pass rush,
as long as he can get the ball out of his hands quickly,
I mean, I can't see them scoring too few points
to not send this game over that total.
Love it.
Is there one player out there, and this is just strictly
to make us sound smart, like one guy
that we should look at who has been underused this year,
that you think if their team focuses in
and is able to get the ball in that person's hand
for the rest of the year, you're going
to see an improvement in the offense.
Wow, that's a good question.
So I would have to go with a couple of a team or two
that I thought was going to do better.
And well, I don't know.
I sprung this one on you.
You sprung this one on me.
I would say the Minnesota Vikings need
to throw a little bit more to their tight ends.
We saw what Irv Smith was able to do in his last game out.
He missed last week, but he caught a couple of tight ends.
Tight ends are a great weapon for Kirk Cousins.
But I will just say this again, and we'll stick with that team.
You can't throw the ball too little to Justin Jefferson,
too much to Justin Jefferson.
This dude is a complete freak, and it just sickens me.
And actually, I'm glad my brain finally got here, PFT,
because it sickens me to see this offense run the ball
first down after first down with Dalvin Cook
picking up three yards.
The defense knows they're going to run the football here.
Meanwhile, you got this young buck Justin Jefferson
who is just destroying dudes on the perimeter of the field,
taking short passes, turning them into big gains,
catching deep balls, running great routes.
This guy needs to be featured more prominently in this offense.
You don't necessarily need to take away targets from Thielen.
Just throw the ball more to him and stop running the ball
on first downs with Dalvin Cook.
That's my advice for the Minnesota Vikings.
I love it.
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OK, we now welcome on a very, very special guest.
It is James Buster Corley, one of the co-founders of Dave
and Buster's, the most famous place in the world.
In the world.
My favorite.
Yeah, your favorite.
So I don't even know where to start.
I guess, I mean, we're kind of awestruck.
But let's start here.
First, let me say, I'm jazzed to be on your program.
I've got to be a fan forever, right?
That's it.
So I'm happy to be here, and I'm
happy to always happy to talk about Dave and Buster's,
whatever you want to talk about.
OK, all right, so let's start from the beginning.
Let's just, can you just give us the beginning,
like how it all started and how it all evolved
into being the coolest place for games, and fun,
and eats of all time?
Yeah, well, Dave and I started out as business partners.
And along the way, became best friends,
and he is Godfather to his children.
He's Godfather to mine.
We started out, I think it's important that we
started out as business partners first,
because a lot of times, people start out as friends,
end up falling out as business partners.
So we kind of had to prove up.
Not only did we sort of grow up together,
but we had to prove up to each other in order
to have this partnership last for as long as it did.
So anyhow, we had two places next to each other
in Little Rock, Arkansas.
And he founded the first one, it's called Slick Willys.
And Slick Willys was a big, a big ass, really fine pool
hall, beer, pizza, games, early on electronic games,
like shuffleboard, the whole thing.
So sort of as success insurance, he came to me and said,
hey, I want to open a place next door to it.
And so we opened a restaurant called Busters.
That was full bar, lots of food.
It was a pretty hip little restaurant early on.
We were in an old train station right down the street
from the Arkansas State Capitol.
So crowd-wise, we had all kinds of people.
And in those days, you couldn't have a liquor license
and have pool tables.
So Slick Willys and Busters had to be separate, no common door.
But there was a walkway between the two.
And in our infinite wisdom, we sat at the bar
and watched our guests go from one place to the other.
They go over to Slick Willys for intense games
and then come to Busters to eat and drink
and back and forth, et cetera.
So we thought, hey, what we need to do
is we need to put these two places together,
put them on a bigger scale, put them in a bigger market,
and launch this thing on the, what we want to do
is something that we could replicate.
So we wanted to be sure that we had something for everybody
to do.
And we were trying to do something that had never
been done before, which is take the amusement business,
the games part of it, and mix it with the traditional restaurant
business and have that be a seamless presentation of fun
and games and good food and good bar and good sports.
And the sports part got to be a much bigger deal for us.
It started out as a big deal, but got much bigger with time.
Anyhow, so we decided that we would
try to replicate our success in Little Rock.
And so we went around trying to raise money.
And we looked at different locations
all over the country, chasing deals,
trying to get people to back us.
We had good reputations, but we'd
least good business reputations.
And had been successful.
And so while we probably got thrown out of more banks
than most people have ever been into,
we finally figured out how to get the backing.
And we did our first Dave and Buster's in Dallas, Texas,
which we thought Dallas was like the perfect business town.
It wasn't that far from where we were.
We understood the market we thought.
And so in 1982, we opened the very first one.
Unbelievable.
I'd say it worked out pretty well.
Genius.
You're just next to each other and like, hey, this kind of works.
And I love any story like that that
begins with a company that kind of evolves out of how
to kind of sneak around a law that many would find unjust.
You work your way around it, and eventually it
leads to something great.
Innovation.
He and I both started out in the business waiting tables.
And along the way, he was a blackjack dealer in Vegas.
And we were sort of early on in the hospitality business
when early rock and roll restaurant bar business, USA,
whatever.
So anyhow, we decided we'd build this.
We'd try to put together this combination that
would make us so competitive that it's a tough business.
The bar restaurant, sports bar, you name it.
Anything that's in the hospitality business
is really difficult.
I mean, you've got sort of there are sort of three ways
to go in our industry.
You either make it big, you lose your ass,
and the vast majority of places are in the middle.
The sort of you work really, really hard for forever
and kind of do OK, right?
So we have sort of, of course, wanted
to be in the top category of doing something that would hit.
I mean, as in a major hit, as in something
we could do over and over again.
Well, that's all well and good, but you've
got to get the first one right, right?
So while it was a pretty revolutionary concept at the time,
and the concept is basically, while the appearance is
different today, the concept is basically the same.
The combination of games, bar, sports, good food,
good service on and on, right?
So we felt like to make it so that it would be very difficult
for anyone to copy us, we had to make it big, right?
And so our first place was 40,000 square feet,
and it was in an old warehouse in kind of a reasonably,
it was a pretty good neighborhood,
but it was down the street from a bunch of restaurants.
But we sort of had to make the corner to get to us, right?
So it was in a viable area, but we weren't up there
with everybody else, easy to see.
So in trying to figure out a way to get people's attention,
one of the few things that we could buy on credit,
because I mean, the radio stations forget it,
they want cash, right, and we bought a huge American flag.
And a 100 foot flagpole, right?
And we put it out in front of our place,
put the flag on it because you didn't have to have a sign
permit, right?
We were actually in the flight path of one of the,
of Love Field, the local airport.
So I mean, 100 feet was as tall as we could,
we could take it without getting in trouble with the,
with the fed.
So we put the flagpole out there, you know,
lit it at night, right?
And I don't know, maybe it was just, maybe it was,
maybe it was gave us the confidence,
somehow or another, the stars came into alignment.
I can't explain it, but it started to happen.
And once it started happening, then it started happening big
time, and then it hit, and then it rolled on from there.
It's the best billboard that you could put up,
is a 100 foot flagpole.
You win as high as you could without knocking a plan on the
sky.
True American dream.
I like that.
One of the big...
Well, it was, you know, that's one thing about,
about, you know, being a visionary, right?
People say, oh, guys, a visionary.
Well, let me tell you about my feeling on that one.
People have said, well, now, you know,
you guys have a great idea of your visionary.
Well, guess what?
The difference between being a visionary and a fool is
success.
Yeah.
You know, if it happens, you're a visionary, you're
brilliant, right?
Well, if it doesn't happen, you're an asshole.
You know what I mean?
So, so there's really, in our industry...
It's like going forward on fourth down.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, thank goodness.
In our business, in those days, because there wasn't
anything like it, and it was so damn big, it was a
piece of work.
And thank goodness it worked.
Yeah, and then the million dollar question is, you
guys had to come up with it.
The most important marketing aspect was the name.
It's Dave and Buster's, not Buster's and Dave's.
How did you decide whose name went first?
Point flip, right?
Well, we actually, Dave and I actually didn't name Dave
and Buster's.
Oh.
No, no, it's true.
Story, I don't know how many times this has been told
publicly, but a very dear friend of ours who did all
the graphics work for Dave and Buster's, eventually came,
once we got big enough, he came and worked for the
company and ran our whole marketing deal, et cetera.
But he was a great graphics artist, and he actually is
the one that, as we were knocking around ideas over,
what are we going to call it?
We had the rights to some other names, et cetera.
And of course, doing your own place, anything you can think
of might be something that might work, you think,
whatever.
And our friend whose name is Dennis Payne said, listen,
man, why don't we just keep it simple?
You mean, how about this?
How about we just, you did the first restaurant, you
called it Buster's.
How about this one we just do Dave and Buster's?
And so he actually drew up the first logo, which the first
time we saw it, we said, that's it, that's perfect.
So it was somebody else smarter than us, I think, who came
with the name.
And it's, you know, and it's stuck.
So I read that it was a coin flip.
So are we debunking that myth?
We are.
That's in that category of myth and legend, sir.
OK.
All right.
Because I was, my question is going to be, what'd you call?
Heads or tails?
Well, you know, Dave was the gambler of the two of us.
So I probably would have let him call it and I'd back him up
no matter what happened.
Got it.
Got it.
And it's one of those things that I guess if history was
different, it was Buster and Dave's would be like, oh yeah,
that makes sense.
But Dave and Buster's just always feels correct.
I think it hits right.
Like Dave and Buster's is good because Dave is, you know,
the normal name and then Buster lets you know it's going
to be a fun time.
Yeah, listen, Buster.
How'd you get the nickname Buster?
Because that's our friend thought that they had more of a
natural sound to it.
Yeah.
How did you get the nickname Buster to begin with?
Well, that's interesting.
It's been from birth, right?
And it turns out that it was my father's best friend at the
time was named Buster.
My real given name is James Winston Corley, right?
And for me, a funny story about that is I, when I was about
to go leave high school and go to college, I wanted to, I
didn't know what I want to do, but I know I want to be a
business person.
I don't want to be a business man, right?
And I'm going to go into business doing something.
And so I went to my father and said, so listen, dad, I'm
thinking about, you know, when I'm going off to college now,
people are going to call me something different if I start
calling myself something different.
So I'm thinking about something more distinguished.
This whole Buster thing is, you know, I just didn't, you
know, I mean, I think that like Jay Winston would be good or
maybe J.W., or how about James W., or what do you think?
You know, what do you think?
And he said, well, I'll tell you what, I gave you the name
Buster because I figured that if you did right by the name,
people would remember you.
If you did wrong by the name, people would remember you.
And you'd have to live it right because of your name.
He said, you meet a lot of gyms and bobs and whatnot, but
you're not going to meet very many Busters.
So I said, yes, sir.
And that was the end of the conversation.
So it's stuck.
And it's a damn good thing that it did because I don't think
that had we called it anything in my name, anything other
than Busters, it probably never would have worked.
Yeah, I love the fact that your name is James Winston,
like the quarterback.
Yeah, that's perfect.
But Buster is also like a perfect name for anyone in the
hospitality business, too.
Like a bartender or a restaurant owner is like Buster.
You know what I mean?
It feels like you're walking into a place that you know.
It's like, hey, there's Buster.
Easy to remember.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
What's your favorite game all time in Dave and Busters?
Well, I'm pretty mercenary about all that, really.
My favorite game was always whatever took in the most money.
So what was that?
My sport is the bar business.
My business is the bar business.
And so whatever's good for the bar business, that's what I'm
that's my preference.
So but I guess overall, for me personally, I was a big pinball
guy, right?
OK.
All right.
So later on, as far as the company's concerned, probably
one of the things that we did, I think, better than anybody
else in the world ever.
Then since then, that won't be done again was a game called
Daytona, which was a eight player Daytona 500 simulator.
Some bitch was Magnificent.
They're only, I forget how many of them were built.
But when it was licensed with the Daytona Raceway people,
the Japanese got so many copies of, you know, they were like,
I don't know, like four or 500 maybe, if that may be.
Because these things were huge and they were very expensive,
right?
Which made it cool because not just anybody, just any little
joint could do a Daytona 500.
Now, we had one in each one of our stores.
And eventually, we had to, because of the way it was
licensed, we had to buy motherboards from games that had
been cast out or whatever from other people in order to be
able to, because we couldn't get a license to do, they would
gear up and build the games for us.
But we had to have the original motherboards out of the
original games in order for them to be licensed by the Daytona
500 people, right?
So we kept that alive for years.
And it was a, and it's a great competitive game, great team
sport, company challenge kind of thing.
Get a lot of, you know, get some friends together and race.
I mean, that's probably my old time favorite.
Yeah.
What about, so I love air hockey.
I like playing air hockey.
And I don't mean to tell you your business, but I feel like an
air hockey table that has chairs on either end would just rake
the cash in.
Because the worst part about playing air hockey is you have
to stand up for a while and it's tough to drink a beer while
you're playing air hockey.
But if you had an air hockey table that had like a beer holder
and a nice comfortable chair you could sit at, I feel like
that's a million dollar idea right there.
You can take that or leave it.
Well, since I'm not, since I'm not responsible anymore, I'll take.
Okay, done.
Have you, has anyone told you about the famous buster guy from
the internet that we talked about a few months ago?
As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, I was watching that
just before I wanted to get a bill for this.
I was watching it just before we came on air and I'd like to
meet this guy.
Yeah.
Actually, I'd like to meet his girlfriend.
Yeah.
Yes, maybe give him some free, maybe give the girlfriend some
free, you know, gift certificates for life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ooh, is there a, can you do that?
Can you make like a, like a bus?
I just wave a bond over it and make it happen.
Yeah, like a Dave and Buster's like black card where it's like.
It's the only superpower I have, yeah.
Wait, can we have one?
What do we have to do to get one?
No, no, not yet, but you know, we just met.
I mean, it doesn't have to actually do anything.
But if I just had like a metallic card that I kept in my pocket
that said like lifetime member Dave and Buster.
Yeah.
Do you have one?
What is that?
All right, what does that do?
I want that.
You can walk in any Dave and Buster's and it's just like free reign.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
This is actually, this is actually, this one has a few miles on it.
But I picked it because it's one of my favorite, you know, favorite
cars, favorite designs, et cetera.
So yeah, but no, these things work in all over the place.
I want.
Now you put coupons on them, game points, you know, credits of all kinds.
It's crazy.
I love it.
I want one where I can like just show up and at any time, like four in
the morning to be like, open this, Dave and Buster's, I'm here.
Now you need to be there by closing time to be there for not really, we don't
do that anymore.
Yeah.
What it was a time, but we're not, we're not in it.
Yeah.
Do you still go like secret shopping at Dave and Buster's?
Do you?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely.
I'm afraid they'll put me to work.
Yeah.
Besides, besides nobody's going to do it exactly the way I would do it or they
would do it, not to mention both of us would do it.
So, you know, if they're there, they're, I know.
What, what'd you think about the always sunny episode about Dave and Buster's?
The only one.
Did you watch the always sunny in Philadelphia episode about Dave and Buster's?
You ever seen that?
I heard about it.
And I've seen the clips.
Yes.
Okay.
What did you think about that when, when you guys cross over?
That was like fantastic, fantastic.
Philadelphia, Philadelphia was our first big national hit, right?
We started out in Dallas and then we did Dallas, second store in Dallas,
then one in Houston and then rapid succession, Houston, Atlanta and Philadelphia.
And Philadelphia is, will always be one of my most favorite stores because it
was a massive, massive hit and it is to this day.
When we opened it, it was, we opened it in the middle of a very rare blizzard in
Philadelphia and people stood in line for blocks.
It's the biggest store we ever built, 70,000 square feet on a pier that sticks
out into the, out into the, uh, uh, uh, the Columbus River, right?
It used to be, uh, uh, cruise ships used to dock there back in the day, whatever.
And it was turned into a big warehouse.
We took it, split it, uh, into, uh, two floors, did parking on the bottom.
And, and the, and our store, Dave Buster's on top escalators.
I mean, it was, it's, it's still a spectacular store.
And one of the biggest, one of the biggest, not only physically, but one of
the biggest, uh, stores by, by revenue.
But so anything for me, Philadelphia, I'm good with it.
Philly's always got a, that's where that, that Philadelphia put Dave Buster's
on that, on the national map over, Hey, this is not just a down south,
sunbelt kind of thing.
This one, which will work anywhere, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I mean, it sounds like you've had, you know, a lot of success, obviously
with your business, uh, there, there have to have been some missteps, some
ones that you wish you could have taken back or some roads that you, that you
tried to go down or tried to implement a new thing that didn't work.
What's the, uh, what's the craziest thing that you thought might work in
this restaurant that ended up being like, uh, a learning lesson for you?
Well, I tell you one thing that, that's, that's, uh, been one of the best
things that ever happened to us was sort of listened to what our customers want.
Right.
And, uh, you know, you can't, can't give everybody what they want all the time
right now, but you know, if you listen to them generally speaking, sooner or
later, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to show you what
their preferences are.
And, uh, originally we weren't big in the party business as, as in private
party rooms, right?
So we had, we had an excess, we had too many, too many, uh, pocket beer
tables in the original store and we had no private party rooms at all.
And then one afternoon, uh, on the theme of your guests will help you figure
out what to do.
The group came in in the middle of the afternoon and, uh, we get a call from
the folks at our front desk who said, Hey, we've got a guy here that wants to
rent, you know, half a dozen pocket beer tables, but he wants to have a meeting.
They're not going to play to begin with.
They're going to have a meeting first.
Long story short, it turned out it was a, it was a sales meeting, right?
And an award ceremony for a sales team from like Xerox, right?
And so, you know, we thought, bam, wait a second, perfect.
You know, in private parties, we need to be in this business.
So we, you know, so we went out, borrowed some more money somehow and, and built
this, our first, uh, big private events, uh, uh, room that we call the show room,
right?
And it had stage in it, you know, tiered seating, uh, real curtain, you know,
real curtains.
I mean, it looked like a theater, right?
And it was for private parties.
Uh, and that ended up being, that ended up being like 20% of our total
business was private parts.
It sounds like it was the Dundee Awards that inspired you to do this.
Yeah.
From day one, we didn't think of it, you know, it was, you know, we just sort
of followed the, we just started, did what we did originally.
We just sort of followed the lead from the customers and, you know, took it from there.
Are there, are you ever worried about Dave and Buster sharks, like the Buster's
guy, guys who come in, advantage players who can basically rob you blind by
winning games?
There are, there, there have been incidents of that we used to have.
No, no, I'm serious.
It's just a funny idea.
Like for someone who's incredible, like Papa shot to be like, I'm going to
take Dave and Buster's for everything.
Well, uh, you know, there's some people that are just naturally good at this
stuff, right?
And then there are some people that figure out how to, you know, they figure
out how to either run a small con or beat you at your own game, right?
And we had for a period of time, a, uh, this is true.
I, and this is back in the day.
I'm sure they're all fine upstanding Americans now, but they were, they're
a band of gypsies, right?
They were like, I mean, we get to call them Monday, man, the gypsies hit us on
Sunday night, you know, that kind of thing, right?
I mean, and we get wiped out and we had to send, we had to send guys in to
figure out how these guys were beating us, right?
Along the way, the systems got better, right?
Where we could actually, you know, sort of use the technology to keep people
from getting to us as much.
Originally, all the games were, uh, were coin driven, right?
And we, we minted our own money.
We had Dave and Buster's chips.
It really were chips, right?
Um, they were like coins.
The chips were, they were fabulous because when you, when you put them in
the game, it just, it was like Vegas, you know, had that sound.
And when you went to the machine to, to buy chips, I mean, they would
clank out, you know, it's like you wanted up at a slot machine, right?
And Dave was convinced that that was part of the buzz, you know, that, that
part of the, the energy and the excitement of playing at Dave and Buster's
was playing with these chips and getting them out of that machine.
And hearing that, you know, it's just like a winning, you know, it's
like, I put my money in, I won right off the bat.
Now I'm going to go out and play them.
So we were very reluctant, even though we knew it would be a smart thing to do,
or we thought it would be.
We were really scared about switching over to now we've got the silent
technology of this, are people really going to believe there's something on
this card?
I mean, today you can give somebody a card.
They don't believe anything, right?
But when it went from something I can hold in my hand to, well, it's
practically on this card.
You know, that was, we weren't really too sure what was going to happen.
We just took the risk.
And when we, when we started, you know, asking our customer, so what do you think?
You know, is this okay?
Are you good with it?
You know, I'm going to be missed the chips.
They were like, oh man, this is great.
And I don't have to haul these chips around anymore.
Should be, you know, it's easy.
It's fun.
It's more fun.
We're like, hallelujah, right?
So that was like a huge leap forward.
It was like to the aviation business.
It would be like going from prop planes to jets.
I mean, after that, man, it was, we could, we could, we could, we could get
so much, so much better hold handle out of what actually happened and when did
it happen and what time of day and all that stuff, you know, so.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Um, this has been fantastic.
I guess my only last question is, uh, you guys did it.
One point in your history, uh, you did like a mock electric chair.
Was that a mistake or was that something you were cool with?
That was a, that was what they've deemed to be an attraction.
That was a, that was a, uh, a, you know, give them something they're going to
talk about, you know, what the hell you're, you're, you, you got your family
in from out of town and you know, so what are you going to take them?
What are we going to do?
And it was just one of those, it was just one of those things that, that, uh, it
was a, that one was an oddity.
Okay.
We did a lot of things that were, that were grander, uh, more, more, uh, more fun,
but that one was just, there's something I don't know why, but for some reason,
people sort of just they're in, in all of that, all that whole deal.
And some people actually thought it was fun or funny, et cetera.
And I always wondered about it, but it would vibrate and there would be like
fake smoke that would come out.
Yeah, exactly.
People would have their picture taken stuff, but whatever makes them happy was
pretty much how we tried to approach, uh, how we did what we did.
Yeah.
I want to tell you in, in looking through your stuff, I saw some, uh, some, uh,
Mark Cuban interview and I, I mean, you know, he's a Dallas guy and I, I mean,
he's one of my heroes, right?
So congrats on, on having him as a recurrent guest.
I mean, he's, he's one of the most, I can remember meeting him just,
Dave and I met him just before, just the season that he bought them at right.
And he, and, uh, he's, he's done so much for the city of Dallas, for
the game of basketball, for American entrepreneurs and business period.
The guys, I mean, besides being brilliant, I mean, he's just, he's just done a
lot of stuff and he hits it.
Well, we'll get him into a Dave and Buster's when everything's, you know,
when coronavirus kind of goes away, we get a vaccine, we'll get Mark Cuban in
a Dave and Buster's with you in exchange for the lifetime cards that you
will give me in PFT.
Well, luckily for me, I already know Mark.
So yeah, but we'll get it.
We'll get it.
We'll get them.
We'll get, we'll do the whole thing together.
We'll all get it.
And then you'll just slide us the card.
Yeah, you just, yeah, basically, you just name your price to get that card.
Yeah, I'll pay.
Name the price for the card.
We'll pay.
Oh, wow.
I don't know.
I'd have to, I'd have to confer.
I don't know.
I think I know you've been doing more, more like leaning into sports recently.
Do you guys have a sports gambling partner for when sports gambling becomes
legal nationwide?
Because we would like to extend the services of the personal sports book.
It's an, it's an ever evolving concept.
So, you know, you are in the sport book business and who knows where the
future may take all of us.
Right.
That wasn't a no, not a no.
That was not a no.
Um, well, I absolutely not.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
We, I never to say never and rarely say no.
There we go.
Uh, we appreciate your time though.
That's been awesome.
And we definitely do want to go to a Dave and Buster's with you at some point.
Well, pick a town.
Okay.
Done.
Maybe all.
Fuck it.
Wouldn't that be great?
Hey, if you've got a plane, I'll go anywhere.
Okay.
Yeah.
Maybe a bus or what about a bus?
We'll get a deal with like wheels up.
Great.
We sponsored.
Great week going to a David Buster's in every single state.
Yeah.
How many states are you guys in?
Jim and they like, I don't know, 27, 30.
That's great.
We've done that's great.
We've done.
Let's figure it out plus Puerto Rico, plus, you know, and I think it's a
fact that no state has ever gone to war with another state that had a Dave and
Buster's in it.
That's an absolute fact.
You know, we really sort of sort of did Dave and Buster's as a public service.
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
Everybody chilled, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
That's us.
Thank you so much.
We appreciate it.
And we'll be in touch.
Yes.
Yes.
This was actually a lot more fun than I thought it was.
There we go.
Thank you.
Very nice.
All right.
We'll be in touch.
Thank you so much, Buster.
Appreciate it.
So yeah.
All right.
Stay safe.
Take care.
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OK, let's wrap up the show.
Firefest of the week and Billy's parlays of the week.
Go ahead, Billy.
Actually, I'll start with my firefest because it can
then go to you, Billy.
My firefest is our strongest guy is kind of weak.
So I listen back to the clip with Rocillo.
And I also noticed, I don't know if you notice this PFT,
but Billy actually said hovering around 285,
which means he doesn't bench 285, which 285 is embarrassing.
I haven't maxed since I was at college and, you know, the whole lockdown
just weren't a pandemic.
Yeah, listen, I'm sorry if I'm not that strong right now.
285 is, you know what?
Not a good look, my guy.
Big yikes.
I just hate it when people say that on Twitter.
Big yikes, my guy 285.
Anyway, for a guy that spent four years in a weight program in high school
and then three years in a weight program in college.
Yes, I know about that one.
So that's my firefest.
I'm very sad about it.
It is what it is.
Our big, strong guy is not big and strong.
I heard that Billy is actually vegetarian, though.
Oh, that would make sense.
No way, guys, don't ever fucking say that.
After the belly football thing and I lost a little strength.
Yeah, you lost a strength.
Fat Billy or strong Billy.
He went on a diet and stopped eating meat.
Yeah, skinny Billy or strong on the street.
It's also just hit a Hail Mary to tie the game at the end of the game,
by the way, that was awesome.
There were two separate threads that were started on bodybuilding.com
forums this week that said that Billy football word on the street was
he was asking people from vegetarian references.
Are you kidding me?
No, I'm serious.
Dude, bodybuilding forum is sick.
Seriously, I get like all my information, all life advice there.
Yeah, about science and math and everything from them.
Right.
Before you get into your can't lose parlor, have you learned anything
about profits in the past week?
Yeah, no, the profits were calculated into the equation.
The problem was that it was a sum equation, not a product equation.
I saw end of discussion.
Some guy said he was an actuary and was basically like,
Billy, everything you said is wrong.
No, OK.
I believe that he said he was an actuary.
So Billy, you guys just forgot to say that you sent with him in there.
Like he's basically explains to you that if you have a hundred dollars
and you win twenty two dollars, you don't want to factor in the middle.
This is a glaring mistake.
No, I'm just in the math.
That's what Billy said.
I checked the spreadsheet and realized that that wasn't the reason
why I was wrong.
The reason was because some odds were put as a sum and not a product.
Anyway, profits are a big part of making money.
This is the can't win Parley for this week.
Now, remember, you choose the five games and you choose the five
hundred dollars that are most closest to like being 50 percent of the pick them.
So, for example, the Bengals this week already lost to everyone.
Right.
Absolutely. No one.
Packers, Rams, Houston, Falcons.
That's the can't win Parley.
So you put 12 percent of your money on that totally lost already.
Could happen.
Parley, Bengals, Houston, Falcons put eight percent.
Why don't you just bet?
Also happened Parley Packers, Rams, Houston, seven percent.
Just in case Parley, Bengals, Packers, Falcons.
Statistical analysis.
Parley, Bengals, Packers, Rams, Billy, top hinge duo.
Parley, Washington Colts, 21 percent in 10 percent on the Cisco.
Billy, can you take down this number for me and put the bottom hinge duo.
Parley, Bucknears, Patriots, Billy, bottom hinge duo.
All the other teams, Washington football team, Colts, Bucknears,
Patriots, Saints, four percent on each of those, nine percent on the Saints.
Then on the reverse, Parley, Bet, you put nothing because it's
statistically supposed to not hit, but it hit last week, still one money.
Billy, let me ask you this.
Does this formula make watching football just impossible?
You don't know who you're rooting for.
I know what I'm rooting for.
No, you don't.
I plugged in 32 outcomes and then you can once each outcome happens,
you see how much money you stand on winning in that moment.
This is big time vegetarian, Billy.
It's not vegetarian.
Yes.
It's not vegetarian.
You're vegan and you love math.
What have you done with my boy?
No, this is just go to at Billy Hot Takes is the pin tweet.
You'll see all the math, the profits.
It's all calculated.
It's kind of cool.
Put this number down.
Write this number down.
1-800-Gambler.
1-800-Gambler.
What?
This makes no sense.
It's not even fun.
It is fun.
You don't even know who you're rooting for.
What's fun about this?
Because I'm rooting for those five underdogs to hit and the more that they hit,
the more that you make.
But if they don't hit, you also make money.
No, you don't.
Yeah, you do.
Guarantee with this strategy, you will not lose all of your money.
Correct.
The highest amount of money you will lose on $100 bet.
So you will only, the highest you will lose is 86% of all your money,
which is not 100, which is better than most people.
But it sounds to me like there's a better than 50% chance that you lose money.
It also just has a 50% likelihood of being positive.
It also just sounds like you want to basically walk away from Sunday being like,
but I didn't lose at all.
I lost 86% of it, but not all of it.
You go to the roulette table and just put a little bit on every single number.
Do you know you can also, you can go one in five.
You wouldn't lose at all.
Yeah, exactly.
If one of these hits, you're going to make money.
Still makes sense.
What's your firefest?
Because mine is listening to that.
Yeah, everyone's cheering me for saying I benched 285 currently.
Hovering around 285.
My max in college was plus 300.
You said hovering around 285.
I rapped 295 for four, for my max out, because we didn't do 100 maxes.
That's a good point that Hank made.
If you knew that you could bench over 300 pounds, you would know that it was like 305,
350.
You either hit like 295, it depends on the multiplier, because when you do four rep axes.
Okay, too much math from Billy.
Yeah.
Billy, Billy, you're suspended from doing math for the next week.
Yeah, no, no, we're taking away your calculator.
Wait until this hits this weekend.
Okay, I will.
Why don't you come in on a Sunday and work?
I'm coming, actually, because I don't have school on my day.
Great.
We'll see you on Sunday and we'll be on a live stream.
How many have to hit for this to be good?
Some, like, legit, only one of them has to hit.
That's how you calculate it.
You lose money.
Yeah, but you also win money.
All right, here's the profit thing.
All right.
It's not the profit thing.
All right, what's your firefest PFT?
My firefest, it's actually for some other people.
That aren't me, but it is a true firefest.
I read today that there are 300,000 people currently stranded on cruise ships
that have been on cruise ships in the middle of the ocean since March.
No, no, that's not true.
300?
No.
300,000, including, I think, 50,000.
Hang on, I'm looking this up.
I think there's like 300,000 people still on ships.
Wait, wait, spin zone.
No shot.
Spin zone.
Vacation.
They've been on extended vacation.
No chance.
300,000 people.
And I also read that
where are you floating around the ocean somewhere?
Is that a turnover?
God damn it.
The Seahawks are a joke.
This fucking.
Oh, no, they bet.
I mean, it's plus the three, right?
Why would you run that play?
Yeah, but now Arizona is about to score.
Yeah, well, they're going to score on this drive.
Shut up, Billy.
God damn it.
Billy's excited because he's winning bets and I'm losing.
But they're also, the cruise industry is looking for
cruise passengers to go on board their ships as guinea pigs.
To just see if it's possible to reopen the cruise industry
right now.
So they're trying to get thousands of people to sign up
to be a passenger on a cruise
so that they can test the new coronavirus protocols.
They're even calling them guinea pigs.
Wait, there's no way 300,000 people, though.
Like, no way.
That's what I read.
Why are they using more people?
It's on a website called barstoolsports.com.
Wait, so why are they asking for-
I'm fucking like KB.
Why are they asking for more people
if there's already people on ships?
So here's what it says.
Right, good question, Billy.
As of September, there were still 300,000 people worldwide
stuck on ships, 50 of which are Americans.
But like 200, I bet you like 290,000
are like actual like fishermen.
Only 50 are-
300,000, so many.
Oh.
It's a ton of people.
I've never really understood the allure of cruises.
I wanted a cruise on as a kid who was lit.
A lot of soft-serve ice cream.
That's where I learned about the grandma and grandpa vingo.
Yeah, that's true.
I feel like it's a fun-
Unlimited soft-serve ice cream.
That's a crazy stat.
I believe you, but I don't.
Like, I-
It's not you, it's the stat is so insane.
This was also in the New York Post,
who sometimes the New York Post
writes articles just for the tweet.
Just so they can tweet it out and get like
5,000 quote-tweet dunks on it.
Right.
With the same people making the same joke every time.
So it might be one of those situations
where they're embellishing it a little bit.
But Jesus Christ, I just go on a cruise ship right now.
Just forget about the coronavirus.
Who would go on a cruise during football season?
Dude, how about the people who are fucking
working on the cruise that are stuck there?
That's the people I really feel bad for.
Not the idiots that went on-
Like, hey, I'm gonna go on a vacation during a pandemic.
How about the people who have to work?
You know what? This pandemic has probably affected
magicians more than anybody else.
Unbelievable.
You can't go on a cruise.
Yeah, and you're like hack comedians.
Yeah, you can't go on a cruise ship
and wow people who are treachery.
You can't really do a Zoom magic show.
It's true.
It's a good point.
So thoughts and prayers, if you're a comedian
or if you're a magician that listens to part of my take,
our thoughts are with you.
Yes.
All right, Hank, we'll wrap it up and then we'll hit the balls.
Yeah, we're playing this Among Us stream at 4 o'clock
and I'm a little nervous about it,
if we're being completely honest.
We got this, bro.
Why are you worried about it?
We're just, it's not us, it's more just like,
you know, it was like Cash App Assets to play.
They said, we'll fill the people.
Cash App, Cash App, Cash App.
And then they proceeded to give us
with like the biggest names and gaming people
that have played hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of hours of this game.
So that's why I'm just a little like that.
We're good.
Hank, you're being sus right now.
You're so sus.
So sus.
You're so sus.
Me and Big Cat are fine.
If there's anything that me and Big Cat are really good at
is doing stuff that we have no idea what we're doing.
And doing it confidently.
Doing it confidently.
And then lying about how good we're doing at it.
My understanding is those are the most important things
in amongst us.
We got this.
Amongst us.
All right.
They did say if we get over 20,000,
they're going to give away a shitload of money.
Okay.
20,000 viewers.
No, Billy, not you, not to you.
All right.
Numbers.
20.
I feel like someone's going to get it today.
18.
I'm going to say it.
I feel like someone's going to get it today.
20.
I'm feeling good about it.
73.
22.
What is it?
What did you say?
8.
20.
So I'm only 18.
I'm riding.
What did you say, Liam?
What did you say, Jake?
18.
23 was there, but none of us have 23.
I say 22.
92.
92.
Damn it.
Albert Haynesworth.
92.
Love you guys.
Billy, fun fact.
Tats.
Use litter boxes.
God, Jesus.
Then they can cover up the...
Okay.
You want to talk about the partial.
No, the parlay.
The fun animal fact is suffer because of the parlay.
Me, you know what?
Parlay's become a problem.
Meat eater Billy would always have a fun animal fact.
I totally eat meat.
This vegetarian slander is egregious.
Sus.
If I'm a vegetarian, PFT has a personal stylist.
Sus.
I don't know what I'm to say I'd say anyway.
Days and nights and days to find you.
Shy it away.
I'll be coming for your lover.
Coming for your lover.
Give me a take on me.
Take me out.
I'll be gone.
Put your heart to me.
Needless to say.
I'll just say yes.
But me, it's totally okay.
So the life is okay.
Say I'm free.
It's the day to be safe and silent.
It's the day to be safe and silent.
Take on me.
Take me out.
I'll be gone.
In a day or two.
All the things that you say.
Yeah, is it all I've got?
Just to play my part really.
You're all the things I've got to remember.
Shy it away.
I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.
Take me out.
I'll be gone.
In a day or two.
I'll be gone.