Pardon My Take - NFL Week 14, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Lions Are Good, Tom Brady May Be Done Plus Football Guy Of The Week

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

NFL Week 15 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes (00:02:47-00:09:14) And then recap every game Lions 34, Vikings 23 (00:09:14-00:23:00) Bills 20, Jets 12 (00:23:00-00:37:11) Eagles 48, Giants 22 (00:37:11-00:45:45) Ravens 16, Steelers 14 (00:45:45-00:53:44) Dolphins 17, Chargers 23 (00:53:44-01:05:58) Jaguars 36, Titans 22 (01:05:58-01:14:44) Bengals 23, Browns 10 (01:14:44-01:25:43) Cowboys 27, Texans 23 (01:25:43-01:31:40) Chiefs 34, Broncos 28 (01:31:40-01:45:45) Panthers 30, Seahawks 24 (01:45:45-01:51:19) Niners 35, Bucs 7 (01:51:19-02:05:56) We finish with Football guy of the week and who's back of the week. (02:05:56-02:22:23)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Monday, December 12th, Week 14. I got my wop back. Up in the Queen City of Buffalo. The Jets said, I want to ride my Mike White circle, I want to ride Mike White. And even though the quarterback took multiple violent blows to the ribs, he said, don't stop me now, I'm having an okay time, having an okay time. The game started in punt jail until Dawson Amanda Knox broke free for a touchdown to start the scoring.

And the final score was close, but the Buffalo Bill Clinton's jumped on Epstein's Jets, bearing a win in the flight log. Hey, Teague. No one circles the wagons like a Buffalo Bills, Bills 20, Jets 12. Over to Cincinnati, where Deshaun Watson was looking stiff and had the Browns play-by-play guys echoing the sentiment of many a masseuse yelling, Deshaun Watson, turn over. Trent Steve Irwin shot a bomb right through the heart of the Browns defense with a flee flicker touchdown.

And after 2.5 years of bad luck, the Bengals finally get Harambe off their back with a win against their in-state rival, the Bengals 23, the Browns 10. In Detroit, where the Vikings defense look drunken sloppy after the Lions forced them to take a shot at Jameson, Williams that is, among other whiskey play calls, the Lions offense is in Christmas spirit as golf was singing Shark the Herald, Angels sing as he and his wide receiver hooked up for a touchdown. Jefferson was just in with the boys trying to keep the Vikings alive with justinance, but Detroit was too much as they sealed the contest after a foolish games play with Panay

Jewel, leaving Lions fans satisfied. Down to Nashville, where Trevor Lawrence Fishburne was up to his old matrix, taking the red pill to raise the ultimate truth that he's a franchise quarterback. Derek Henry Lockwood couldn't get the ball right, fumbling twice on Sunday. Jacksonville was partying on some Evan in Grum as Chug Peterson and the boys told Tennessee, You've got Jagged Up, Jacksonville 36, Cartons 20, I like when we do that together Boom. You just got Jagged Up. In the Meadowlands, the Eagles offense went to Sonic Boom as Milestale Sanders ran all

over the Giants defense, collecting coins on the way to 144 yards in a score. The Giants are still sniffing around the playoff picture as they try to jumpstart their offense with Richie James, bitch. But it was the Eagles that were cold blooded on Sunday and let us be the first to welcome the Philadelphia Eagles to the 2022-2023 playoffs as they officially clinched Eagles 48, Giants 22. In the Battle of Texas, duck it up, duck it in, let me begin, the Cowboys came to win, kind of as House of Damian Pierce and the Texans had other plans in the least erotic

quarterback combo of all time, Lovie Smith switched back and forth between Davis Mills and Jeff Driscoll as the Texans kept on trying to get there to a win. The Cowboys were serial killers in the end as they used Dexter to make a big goal line stop and drive 98 yards for the win. The Cowboys, 27, the Texans, 23. Is it true what they say? It is, it's very true. Up to Pittsburgh at a classic AFC North battle between Kenny Pickett and Tyler Huntley?

Huh? Huh? Huh? But what's that music? A Mitch, I'm a lover, these two teams don't like each other. Kenny Pickett hurt his brain, here comes three picks in the rain. And on the other side, Anthony, what can Brown do for you? Not very much, came in for the Ravens, late in the fourth.

Pat, can you take me, Friar? Muth had the Ravens begging him to stack, but it was Baltimore that held on in the end in the Crucial Division win. Raven 16, Steelers 14. In Mile High, where a gay guy got his hands on Russell Wilson's ball, Broncos country lets pride. It looked like a chief's route until Jerry Judge Judy said court is in session, scoring three touchdowns to bring the Broncos back.

Russell Wilson had a nano bubble up here on his forehead, forcing him from the game and in came Brett, the Ripon and the Terran, the Ripon and the Terran, but it was too little too late as the Broncos remain in hedonism because they fucking suck. The Chiefs 34, the Broncos are 29. We finish in the Bay Area where I regret to inform everyone it might be time to count out touchdown Tom as the passing of the torch occurred because the Niners went to Brock. The Niners want to Brock enrol all night and party every day with a total set at 37. Everyone was expecting a Brock fight until party showed up and showed out and outside

a Debo Samuel injury, Niners fatefuls were left singing. We built this city, we built this city on Brock enrol. As the Niners kill the Bucks, 35, 7, week 15. Brought to you by our friends at Chevy, Chevy, Chevy Week 14. Week 14, don't do that. We need every single week of football. Brought to you by the commanding unstoppable Chevy Silverado. Learn more at Chevy.com.

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That's what I'm going to go with as a member of two and on. I think he started three for 17 until he threw a touchdown to Tyree Kale. Looks like a bust to me. It's I'm in the, I'm in the Talia band, his brother. I think his brother is going to be better than him. Don't do that. This is probably looks good. It was it to have a chance here.

He has this game on Sunday night and then a game on Saturday night against the bills to like win the Heisman vote. And not, not off to a great start. Three for 17, four for 18 now. Not great. Not great. It's time to ask like what is to his signature win? Yeah.

Does he have a Heisman moment? It's probably back against the Ravens week. Yeah. Ravens. Ravens week too. Yeah. But that was like ten years ago. Also like a Tyree kill signature moment.

Good point. Yeah, that is true. Good point. Hank said that he wasn't going to talk this entire episode to the end. Because he lost his voice and that lasted about a minute and a half. He threatened us. He's like, I'm not talking. It lasted.

Yeah, you are. It lasted seven patinos. Yep. You got it. You got it. It was just all we had to do is bring up. That's it. That's it.

But yeah, we'll update that when that game goes. Final looks like the chart. The chart is up 2014 as we're speaking. Yeah, we'll update that when we get to it. So let's get into it, boys. Week 14, some fun games, some interesting playoff pictures. And we will start with the game. I think we all were most interested in and we had on sound.

It's Lions 34, Vikings 23, and the Detroit Lions are good. Listen, this Detroit Lions team that we saw play today, they're as good as any team in the NFC, I think. Maybe not the Eagles. Maybe not the Eagles because, but they did their biggest win of the season. The Lions best win of the season was their three point loss against the Eagles week one at home. I would say actually their three point loss against the Bills.

They've had a number. They've had some great losses. Incredible three point losses. They started November one and six. We had the conversation is Dan Campbell in jeopardy of maybe losing it because like we've always said, Dan Campbell, a guy you'd want to play for, but guys, raw, raw guys like that. If the losing mounts up, it's hard for the message to keep going through and the message

has kept on going through to the point where they are five of the last six games they've won. They are now sitting in. They still have work to do. They still have some, some things that have to break their way in front of them, but they are absolutely in the playoff picture. They handled the Vikings today. Their offense looked awesome.

Jared Goff was awesome. Jameson Williams, nice little, little addition late in the season. Great, great free agency pickup late in the season, as they say. His very first catch was a long touchdown catch. And I am always convinced that if a player's first play ends up in like a tremendous, like a 50 yard bomb or something like that, that actually just means great things for their entire career. Yes.

Like that, as far as I'm concerned, Jameson Williams is a home run of a draft pick just because of the way that his career started. Yes. Yes. The Detroit Lions, the Detroit Lions, they're playing great football and Dan Campbell is pulling all the right moves because you had two moves today that showed that Dan Campbell, like the game on the edges, the game of inches, he had the fourth and seven with 11 minutes left on his own 26 fake punt.

When they're up one score, that was huge. And then of course, to ice the game, the play where he had Penae Sewell run in motion. They're, they're, they're what? I mean, he's, is he all, he's not all pro yet, but he's definitely a pro bowler left tackle, run in motion, catch the ball in the flats for the first down, totally unguarded by the Vikings defense. Penae Sewell afterwards said, quote, talking about Dan Campbell, dudes got some nuts on him, bro.

Like it's as simple as that. Yeah. What a quote. Big swinging nuts. Yeah. And that was it though. Like we've talked about like Dan Campbell, sometimes doing the desperate things where you're like, Oh dude, did you have to do that?

Like you guys might have a good team. He knows he has a good team. They play good football. Their defense is not as bad as it was to start the season. Their offense is really, really good. And he's doing just the right couple of things here and there to win the football. Yeah. It's a very fine line between having the biggest nuts in the world and having a brain made

of shit. Yeah. And Dan Campbell is constantly tiptoeing that line. Don't get me wrong. The fake punt, it worked. That was dumb as fuck. It was stupid. But it worked.

They had the look. It worked. Oh, I know. That's the look that they were looking for. They were looking for that. They were looking for that look and they got that look. But it's also, we can also say like, dude, you're fucking insane. Yeah.

Like I think Dan Campbell is a adrenaline junkie. I think he just like gets off on taking these unnecessary risks and they do pay off for him at times. Like this, it ended up paying off for him big time. I think he's actually just straight up addicted to faking punts. Yeah. Because it's more rare that a week will go by where Dan Campbell does not fake a punt. Then like he, every time he runs his pun team out there, even though he's got Jack Fox,

the best punter in the history of the NFL, every time he puts his pun team out on the field, he wants to fake it. He wants it. He hates punting so bad. And yeah, it worked out this time. But you've got to lead. You're running it from what your own 25 yard line with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. Like there was a very good chance that that was not going to work.

It did. It worked this time. It did work. But yeah. And they do call good fake punts. They've got a good person that designs those that looks for the looks and then puts those into motion. But still at the same time, it's like, that's something that we would absolutely kill them

for if it didn't work. All you got to say is they got the look. They got the look. They got the look. My friend Jared is playing awesome football, like legitimately awesome football. Did the Lions win the Stafford trade? I mean, they are. This has to be the best it's felt to be a Lions fan in a very long time, probably since

Stafford went to the playoffs because not only do they are they playing great football, they're trending in the right direction. They got a bunch of young, like exciting players on both sides of the ball. They also have two picks in next year's draft. One of them could end up being a top five pick. Like it is a fund. It's probably the first time we've ever said it on this podcast. We've been doing it for seven years.

It is a fun time to be a Detroit Lions fan. Yeah. The Lions are legitimately good. I'm joking a little bit when I say that they're the best team in the NFC. They're probably they're probably number three right now in terms of how they're playing. It's probably the Eagles, the 49ers, and then the Lions are actually that good that I would consider them to be at the moment, the third best team. The Lions are they're the team that nobody's going to want to play in the playoffs.

We should just as a country, like get together and be like the Lions get to win the NFC South. Yeah. They get to win the NFC South. Let's just make that the rule. No one really wants to see any of these NFC South teams anymore. The Lions win the NFC South. Biz would probably consider them to be part of that division. Yes, they're southern enough.

Dan Campbell is is the embodiment of that meme of the dude that's like picking away at the at the coal mine and like one guy stops because he gets tired and the other guy or no, the guy stops because he's tired. But he's like two picks away from hitting the diamonds. Yeah. He's at the other side of it. And Dan Campbell just kept going because when you coach like Dan Campbell, you just like empty the emotional tank every single week.

Yeah. And it's very hard to continuously do that when you're one in six. Right. It's like how what more depths can you go to? How many more tears can you cry after a game to pump the guys up? But he just kept he just kept crying. He keeps picking away. Dan Campbell cried his way into success.

It's awesome. Yeah. It's like it's not a fluke. Like I said, five out of the last six games and their one loss being a three point loss to the bills, who everyone has his Super Bowl favorite. It's it's just awesome. Watch. So they have coming up and this is big.

They have at the Jets next week, which is a very, very tough game for them because Jets are their defense is not to be taken lightly at the Panthers who are playing good ball and suddenly we'll get to them later in the NFC South playoff picture. Then they play the Bears who they should be. And then they play at the Packers who who knows who's going to be playing for the Packers at that point. It might be Jordan Love. I think they have to probably go three and one to to realistically have a shot at this

thing. They'd have to finish nine and eight to have a have a realistic shot at this seven seed. I think the Seahawks. We can get to that later. Seahawks. Yeah. Yeah. And we can get to the Seahawks later, but I would put more money on the on the Lions

closing out the year strong and having the Seahawks kind of limp into the end of the season. It's going to be between the Seahawks. Commander's Giants Lions. Yeah. And you've actually graciously already said you'll you'll step aside if need be. If need be. When I say that you're like, well, it's the Lions.

I can't. No, I said I can't root against the Lions. I want the Lions to make the playoffs. No, you'll step aside. If I have to step aside and stand down. You will. I will do that. That's huge.

So you heard of here first. The commanders have now forfeited the rest of their season. No, I said, if necessary, right, I will stand down. We'll remember that. If called, I will serve. Okay. Great. So if it gets to the point where we're in week 18 and you have the spot and the Lions

need it, you need to make sure that the commanders lose. No, I've already given up. I gave the Giants the win last week. I tried to give them the win last week, but they didn't accept it. So like, I don't know how far my word is going to get in this. But if it comes down to it and it's the Lions and the commanders fighting for the last playoff spot, I'll make a call. You'll step aside.

I'll make a call. Yeah, you make the call. Yeah. All right. Other side. And this is, you know what? I don't even really like the Vikings. They become a big topic in the show.

I think it's a very simple discussion. Kirk Cousins was good. Justin Jefferson was good. Their defense is trash. Justin Jefferson was awesome. Yeah. 223 yards. And he's incredible.

Their defense sucks. The whole bend, but don't break thing for a long time. It shattered. It exploded today. It's given their defense has given up five straight weeks. The opponents have racked up 400 plus yards, which is usually a good sign of like, Hey, this defense might not be good. It's bad.

And I know Harrison Smith wasn't in there, but I think Lions fans like we're going to we're going to pivot the conversation about the Lions fans or sorry, Vikings because all year it's been about Kirk. Kirk has been playing very well. Kirk has had probably his best year, uh, you know, just eyeball test. He's had his best year where he's making throws, making plays that aren't usually like the Kirk Cousins implode in the pocket. Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in the NFL.

The defense is going to let you down. Yeah. So per the and they know that line or Vikings fans know that for the Elias Sports Bureau, they're the only team in NFL history to have a negative point differential after getting 10 plus wins after 13 games. And if you want to go even further, the, uh, our guy stat whole sports had, uh, the stat yards gained verse yards given up, uh, the worst team in the league, uh, the, the Houston Texans are at a differential of minus 1200 yards.

The Falcons are second minus 877 yards. The Titans who are, are, I don't even know if you can call them frauds because they probably just aren't that good. They're just playing in a bad division. They're just hanging out. Our 824 at third and then the Minnesota Vikings who are 10 and three are fourth in the league in a negative yard differential, minus seven, four, four, two. That's crazy though that the Texans are in first with what was theirs minus 1200 might

and then second was like 800. Yeah. The Texas are that much worse. Yeah. 300 yards worse. The Texans are, what is that? Like almost 50% worse. Yeah.

They're like a full game. More than any other team in the national football league. Yes. And that's, I mean, it's, it's not the end all be all step. But obviously, you know, points can happen in a million different ways. You get special teams, touchdowns, you get picked sixes, whatever yards, you're pretty good. Yes.

Like test of it's a good yardstick. Yeah. Yeah. Is your team like soundly beating teams or is something weird happening here? And I think again, I think Vikings fans know that the defense is going to let them down. And today was the day that the defense absolutely let them down because Justin Jefferson could not be stopped. And I'll even say one nice thing about the Vikings fans.

I think Justin Jefferson got that touchdown ripped away from them. Okay. Because I think that they called, they whistled it early. He never went out of bounds. Yeah. His heel didn't touch. It made no sense that they stopped that play. That should have been a touchdown for him.

He should have been at like 270 yards. Yeah. That's it. It was a crazy day for him. He rocks. He's probably the best receiver in the entire league. And today I do agree today's story is not that much about the Vikings. No.

It's just like the Vikings got beaten by a better team. Right. And they also are going to fall to where we thought they were going to fall. Like they didn't, they weren't going to be the one seed. This was the day where it's like, they're not going to be the one seed. Yeah. They're going to win the NFC North easily. And they'll, they'll have a home playoff game, maybe multiple home playoff games, probably

multiple home playoff games. But yeah, this is, this was the day. And we said it before, like the 10 and two Vikings are on the road and they're two point underdog to the five and seven Detroit Lions. Yep. That tells you everything. Take the Lions. Yep.

Take the Lions today. Billy took the Vikings. Oh, really? Yeah. That's tough, Billy. We took the Jets. We did take the Jets. Yeah.

Actually, you should have taken the Jets. Yeah. You should have taken the Jets because let's talk about that game next. That's the next game. The Bills 20 Jets 12. The Bills survive an ugly game. I'm going to, so there was a question afterwards. A reporter said, are you concerned, Josh Allen, about this offense not looking like an offense

that can win a Super Bowl? And his response was simply, okay. Yeah. So I liked that. Good question. So because it was one of those ugly games, division games, Jets defense. We've, we've been giving them flowers all season long. They are elite.

They were able to, you know, slow down, make the Bills look ugly for a good portion of this game. Started with 10 punts, but the Bills survive an ugly game. And Mike White, I, he got abs, I, I don't know if he has ribs anymore. He got folded in half. Like multiple times. It looked like a folding chair. Yeah.

He just, he got, he got cut in half and sandwiched. He got turned into the, the less than sign as he just got absolutely destroyed by the Blitzing Linebacker. After the game, he was taken to the hospital in a precautionary ambulance is what, is what is what the coach said. Yes. He had a precaution, you know, just like a precautionary ambulance. Right.

Just to make sure that. A test ambulance. Yeah. Just as a standard, after an NFL game, you obviously take your starting quarterback to the hospital and ambulance just in case. I would imagine a precautionary ambulance is like, like, uh, it's like a fun ambulance. Not actually in service. It's maybe actually like a Bills fans tailgate.

You know, they, they, they customized a ambulance, an old ambulance and put like Bills Mafia all over it. Yeah. That guy took them to the hospital and at the hospital, it was like, except it wasn't a hospital. It was just a bar. Yeah. And they have some hard liquor to take away some of that pain.

Pinto Ron was hitting his kneecap with, with like a hot dog and being like, all right, I'm going to prescribe you three, three shots of, of a weird liquor out of this bowling ball I have and you'll be good to go. Yeah. There you go. So yeah. So he's fine now after a precautionary trip to the hospital where they just said like, yeah, you got fucked up today.

Mike White. Really? I felt bad for Mike White because they kept putting them back in the game and he kept getting hurt and they couldn't do anything to protect him. And it felt like it was animal abuse. It felt like a dog. Like I was watching a dog that was just like tied up outside in a snow, in a snowstorm that was just getting like hit by the wind with no food or water.

But I felt bad for Mike White, but it's kind of your guys fault because every time they put Joe Flacco and he was like, I don't want to start in quarterback Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco starts, he doesn't come off the bench. Joe Flacco put, I would say about 10% of his heart and effort into, into playing football today. Every time he came in, what do you expect from Joe Flacco? Like he was, he gave a full on, I don't want to be here. Get Mike White back out here.

I don't care how many ribs he's missing. It was actually very funny because Joe Flacco would just keep coming in. He would keep looking terrible and being like, please don't put me back in this game. He had a couple of nice handoffs, but the fumble was, was pretty bad. I actually think that's what happened. I think, I think Mike White was like on the training table and the doctor was like, Mike, you are very, very badly injured. We can't let you in.

And Mike White was just watching the game and watching Joe Flacco play. He's like, Doc, I have to play because Joe Flacco is quiet quitting out there. So Joe Flacco is going to get everybody else hurt on the field. I'll only get myself. It was very selfless of him to go back in the game. Joe Flacco has reached a point in his career where he should not be doing any improvisation whatsoever. If the play doesn't look exactly like he's practiced it in the VR headset or whatever,

his job should just be, he should sit down. He should just like stop in the middle of play and sit down, crisscross applesauce in the pocket and be like, let's live to fight another day. When he starts to improv, then he did that thing. He tried to do like a Patrick Mahomes flip of the ball and the ball went like just straight sideways. And he also like Joe Flacco shouldn't be playing, he shouldn't be outdoors if it's below 40 degrees.

Yeah. Joe Flacco is a problem that Joe Flacco was even there, Billy. So Mike White, by the way, 40.4% of the drop backs he was pressured on. Yeah, it was bad. That's insane. Like the bills, defense, and that's what I was saying, like a gritty, tough win because the bills have had, I think this just comes with the territory when you are the Superbowl favorite and everyone's picking you apart and there's games where you don't look great.

They've had games where they haven't looked great. They lost to this, this Jets team, but their defense was awesome today, stepped up and their offense did enough where it wasn't like, I don't, the Jets are just a really good defense and they know the bills. Yeah. And with Mike White at quarterback, they actually look like a good football team. Yeah. Like Mike White is, I think, is Mike White him?

He makes competent plays. Should be having that discussion. He does. I think he might be him. The funniest play the first half was, and it was a punt fest, but on that last drive, the bills had, it was fourth down and they ran the play that everybody knows is coming where they tried to get the defense to jump off sides on fourth down and they had Dawson Knox go under center and pretend like he was going to get the snap.

The Jets jump over the line of scrimmage, absolutely destroy Dawson Knox, but it was very clearly off sides. And then you saw Dawson Knox get like hit to the ground and then jumps up and starts celebrating because he just got killed on that play. And then they went down and they scored Dawson actually got that touchdown where he flipped into the end zone at the end of the half. If the Jets had gone into the halftime at 0-0, they might win that game. Yeah.

Those also are the coolest moments when you get a flip in the end zone out of necessity, not celebration. Yeah. When a guy has to flip into the end zone just to get into the end zone, those plays rock. And when you're flipping because somebody else made you flip right because you're doing it on practice. Right. Exactly.

So I'm saying like instead of just like when guys try to flip to showboat when they actually like the only move I have right now is to flip. Those are the coolest touchdowns, Billy. How are we feeling? Stay to the Jets. We have the Lions. Oh, let's play who's line is anyway with that. The Lions, the Jaguars at the Seahawks at the Dolphins.

They got to win. Lions at home. Lions at home. Whose line is it anyway? I actually think it's, I think the Jets are going to be favored by a point. I think it's going to be two and a half Jets. Yeah. Three.

Do you look it up, Hank? You can talk to. We got to, uh, we, we got to address someone else besides Flacco for quarterback two spot because it can't be Zach Wilson. No, yeah. It's Strevlar. I think we should actually. Yeah.

Strevlar. Yeah. Just Strevlar. Just so we can have a guy to who can go in there and make some plays and not, you know, be geriatric. I agree. Like Joe Flacco could start, but he's not a backup. He's nobody's backup.

Like he needed to warm up. Yeah. Like it was very obvious for like a couple hours. Yeah. Joe Flacco, if you want to put him in a game, you better have like a heated pool inside the stadium that he can go into and do like Aqua aerobics for 30 minutes before a full training camp. Before he gets into a game, Wilson, I think, I think Mike White's starting for the rest

of the U.S. No, no, Zach Wilson is not going to be a Jen anymore. Yeah. Have you realized that? Yeah. Okay. Because that's like, and I actually think Robert's Salah deserves all the credit in the world because that I was thinking about it like that's not an easy thing to do to, to bench

the guy who is supposed to be the franchise quarterback, but the team looks like they're fighting in a different way than they were a few weeks ago. And I think this is why he's seriously going to be in the running for Coach of the Year. Yeah. I think I, I, I, I said that in the beginning of the year, I put that bet in, uh, I tweeted it. Robert Salah? Yep.

Okay. Uh, and I think these are the decisions you have to make that if, you know, they make to the playoffs, let's say they go decently in the playoffs, that's going to put, what's decently in the one win, one win. I think one win is more than decent, but, you know, I think if they cover, if they cover with Mike White at the helm, playing like that against the Bills and in Buffalo, in this like light, flurry snow. Moral victory time.

Yeah. That's, no, but like that's, that's Super Bowl football. He's right. He's right. Like we're looking at the Super Bowl now. He's right. Hank, go ahead and talk. Hank.

Hank, you're making, just making all these faces. I, I'm totally running up to score while Hank can't talk. Come on. Yeah. It's Jets minus one. Oh, okay. Um. Hank, go ahead and talk.

Oh, Billy just sounds like a Jets fan. You sound like a Pats fan. Yeah. You sound like a Pats fan. When we talk, we don't lose a game and then say that's a Super Bowl. No, no. I'm saying that that's Super Bowl football like that is the Super Bowl contender. All right.

All right. I agree with Hank because like, yeah, it does, it does sound ridiculous in Buffalo last year. It really does sound ridiculous to say like that's Super Bowl football. You can say like that's play. Well, that's competing. That's competing. Yeah.

Yeah. It's playoff football. I mean, I knew I kind of knew that's how the game would, what we covered. I kind of know that's how the game. How can we get a bet on them then? Yeah. I mean, I think I took them in the contest because I wasn't, it was, it was a weird line. You also like, you also like we're sucking Zach Wilson off like you're really quick.

Well, I was supporting basically I was supporting. No, you were sucking them off. You sucked them off. You did. Week by week. Yeah. Oh, you gargle on Mac Jones. No.

Yeah. You gargle on Bailey's app and Mac Jones. You're getting, you're getting double teams. You're getting spit. Hank, Hank has actually been pretty honest about Mac Jones recently recently. You did. You did suck off Zach Wilson. Pretty hard.

I do owe Billy an apology. Young man. I was not familiar with the game. I owe you an apology. I was, I was roasting you. You weren't even here. I was like, Hey, big cat, do you remember what Billy said about the, about the weather in this game?

You said it was going to be like a wintry conditions. It was going to be snowy and it was going to be 38 outside. And I didn't even realize, Oh shit, Billy just predicted a snowstorm in 38 degree weather. And you were actually right. There was snow. It was like sloshing. Yeah. There was snow and it was, it was 38 degrees.

I didn't even know that was possible. Good job. Yeah. Well, I've been keeping up with the weather a little harder. You guys been holding me to that pretty well. So, but like, I knew that it was going to be a tight game. They'd probably cover because it was probably going to go under, which it did. And I didn't have the balls to take it because I was taking, you know, I didn't have the

balls to take it because I was taking, you know, I got talked out of it. I'm not going to do that again, but they're going to play Detroit lines. They're scrappy. I think this was a hard game for the offense to really click with Mike White at the helm because of the conditions. And we're going to see, you know, at home, hopefully it's decent weather that we're going to finally, it's all going to click and you're going to see some serious numbers out of the Jets offense.

Oh, serious numbers. I like that. I mean, we're going to have to compete with the Detroit lines. It's going to be a shootout. Yeah. Which is crazy to think. Detroit line. It's kind of a loser league town cross, cross conference.

It is. Yeah. I mean, golf and white actually kind of a lot of similarities. I was sort of, that's what I was seeing. Probably just from their stature and play style. But yeah, I don't know about that one. Yeah. But yeah.

No, I agree. It's going to be both quarterbacks. They are. They're both quarterbacks. I mean, they're both like six, six, pretty skinny. Yeah. They're both good. Yeah.

But Mike White shirts. I think Mike White's a good quarterback. I think he's, you know what? I don't necessarily think he's good yet. I think, I think he's a fine quarterback. You've got a fine quarterback. Yeah. And he gets the job done.

The team's on his back. Even better person. Yeah. And now I'm told, I think the Zach Wilson experiments is pretty much. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Done. Yeah, done. That was the part I was saying.

Like, have you realized, like, no, no, it's done. Yeah. I have a Mike White jersey coming in the middle. I'm now going to be. So make sure that, yeah, make sure Zach Wilson's dick is out of your mouth by the time the jersey gets on. We're onto a new guy. Okay.

All right. Because that was like a, you were looking back being like, Zach, are you like, you're hoping he was looking back. No, I was. You guys were saying goodbye to each other on the street and then you look back and he looked back and like catch eyes. It was a two game stretch. We saw Viking like this was a two game.

If he won the game or performed well, like that was going to solidify him for the rest of the. But Zach Wilson, you are right. Zach Wilson might have to dress just because Mike White keeps getting absolutely brutalized. I know. And he said the offensive line is going to decide whether Mike White's, you know, career of directory. Yeah.

Yeah. Now it's going to be interesting with Zach Wilson because he's going to go somewhere else and somebody, somebody's going to fall in love with him. Someone's going to be like, this guy's ceiling is Patrick Holmes and he could go. I think there will, I don't, it's more of a yips thing with him. I think at this point. Oh, it's just the yips. Well, yeah.

Exactly. He will. He will. I'll tell you this. He'll be sicker than the XFL. Yeah. He would. Scenery.

Yeah. He's a change of scenery. Yeah. Because I think to me, this is a little of a hot take, but if you hear how like he refers to, and his mother refers to the New York media, you can have, there's like a, you can tell that they're really not happy. Oh, is he too conservative to play in New York City? I kind of was getting those, like, getting those vibes.

The libs are driving him crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. That was, it's their fault. Where would it be? Like, where would the best place for him to own the libs be?

Texas. Yeah. Go to Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Go to the Texans. Okay. Last thing on this game.

Yeah. The bills, yeah. The bills did like struggle offensively. And then now we have, so I mentioned the jet schedule. I love this time of year because you can kind of like map it out with four games left. That's scary to say. The bills have dolphins at bears at bangles and then the Patriots there. If they win out their one seed, if the Chiefs slip up at all, and they, you know, they both

can go three and one, they have the tiebreaker. But I feel like the one seed in the AFC is going to be so goddamn important. Yeah. Because getting that, getting that bi-week, getting those home games, not having to go through a gauntlet versus some of these teams that are definitely like, I mean, the dolphins don't look great tonight, but not having to play maybe the bangles in the second round. How, yeah. I mean, for the bills, it's super important.

Yeah. If you can get home field advantage and Buffalo. I mean, imagine a night game in Buffalo, like 22 degrees snowy AFC championship game. Nobody in the crowd wearing a shirt. I love it. That's, that's football. I love it. Kurt Loner is going to have a stroke.

Okay. Next up, the first team to actually clinch a playoff spot in the 2022 season, the Eagles 48 Giants 22. Congratulations, Max. Max. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations, Max.

Selfie Eagles are rolling. They are rolling. I know that there's been a lot of talk about their schedule. They had that moment where they slipped up against commanders and had the close game against Colts. This was a game that everyone thought, ooh, maybe tough game Giants. They obliterated the Giants. They absolutely took it to them right from the get-go, 14 play, 84 yard touchdown drive,

12 play, 91 yard touchdown drive. And then they got that muff kick that was then just a touchdown to Devonte Smith, a 33 yard touchdown. They are rolling. Everything is clicking for them. I like this. It looks so easy. It looks like so easy.

Their offense looked like it was running in slow motion, but the defense of the Giants was running in even slower motion. Like they knew exactly where they were going with the ball every single time on the design runs for Jalen Hurts, or even like Miles Sanders had an incredible game, but neither one of them looked like they were like they were having to put forth an insane amount of effort. It was so easy for them today. And it also, they just beat you in so many different ways because A.J. Brown and Devonte

Smith, both like their ball skills are insane. They just, half of these throws, it's not Jalen Hurts is probably going to win the MVP, but he, and it's a credit to him because he basically just says, I'm giving my guys a chance because I know they'll make plays for me. And they, they did that in the first half, then they ran the ball down their throat. Jalen Hurts ran the ball down their throat, Miles Sanders, they have a million different ways to beat you. And it looks like, I don't know, I, they're just, they're, they're peaking at the right

time. Like they're starting to play really, really good football. They have that big game against the Cowboys coming up, but that was Jalen Hurts. Now it feels like, especially after my homes had a weird game in Denver today, it feels like Jalen Hurts is the front runner for the MVP. I would say so. Their offense is clicking. They've got Miles Sanders now at a thousand yards.

Miles Sanders having an incredible season. Incredible. Like everybody wrote him off the last two years just because his hamstrings were made out of bubble yum or whatever, but he's playing really, really well right now. Um, he had a thousand yard season, A.G. Brown has a thousand yards. That's the first time that the Eagles have had either a runner for a thousand yards or a receiver for a thousand yards since 2014. Wow.

Sean McCoy. And then I think, um, who would have been Macklin probably, yeah, that wide receiver that got a thousand yards. Yeah. Macklin and 14, I think was. Yeah. So 2014, that's an old school Andy Reed shit. Show up.

Mizzou. Um, this, this Eagles team. No, that was, uh, Macklin, that 14 was Chip, right? No. That might have been Doug, right? No, I think that, I think that was Chip. Yeah. I think Andy left some 12.

Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah. It's probably Chip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that the, uh, the Nick Foles year? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. When, uh, what was it? 27 touchdowns, two interceptions. Yeah. Something insane like that. Yeah. So congratulations, Max.

They're really, really good. They're, and Max, what do you think? I mean, they're rolling. They're rolling. Yeah. I mean, today there, there wasn't even really much to say about the game today. We, I mean, we have the six TVs, we turned it off at in the third quarter because the game was over.

And I actually said, I was like, wait, Max might want to keep watching and you're like, nope, game's over. Game's over. It was. It was over. Well, it also was because the game that wasn't on was Cowboys Texas. Yeah. And that became good.

And I was, my Eagles. My Eagles. My Eagles. Yeah. Because now you're at the spot where the Eagles, uh, if they finish three in one, they can even lose the Cowboys. If they finish three in one with the Vikings lost today, they're the one seed. Uh, they can't finish.

If they, if they go two and two and they lose the Cowboys, they might, I don't want to think, I want to be. Oh, you don't want to think about it. I want to be the Cowboys. You want to be the Cowboys. I'm now getting to the point of like, people are coming at me on Twitter for like Cowboys takes and like, I hate the Cowboys so much. I've hated them my whole life, but now it's just like, and I haven't wanted to win a game,

a regular. She's in game as bad as I want to be the Cowboys on Christmas night. Christmas Eve. Yeah. As like, I'm almost worried about the Bears next week because of how much, but that's you look at it. Yeah. Yeah.

That matters. You're looking ahead. That doesn't matter. If you ever look at team, that has an impact as to what to play around the field. That would really put me in a pickle. Yeah. If the Bears win a game that I don't want them to win, we should just because of draft pick and also because of my Eagles future.

Wow. That would suck. Well, the good, the good, exactly what's going to happen because I, the good news is the Eagles are probably, they're going to lock up home field no matter what they can't slip up. I think that the Eagles have it. I don't think that the Vikings are threatening, but the Cowboys are the threat Cowboys could be a threat.

The Cowboys win the tiebreaker. If the Cowboys win this game. And that changes everything. Right. But Eagles. It's not only the one seed, but it's also home field, like because then you're a wild card. Yeah.

Then you're a wild card team. Now you're on the road. Everything is different. Eagles have two wins over them right now, right? No, no, no. The Eagles have beaten the Cowboys once. They play on Christmas Eve. No, I'm saying like right now they're 12 and one.

Yes. Yes. The Cowboys are 10 and three. The Eagles can't slip up. Yeah. Because they, they then that Cowboys game could end up being like, if you lose it, you're now fucked. Fucked.

And you go from the first to the third. And that's why the Texans game was so big today because if they lost, then it was over. It was over. If they lost, then whatever, give us the one seed we would, we could coast into the ground. Right. How's your punter doing? Is he okay? Uh, great question.

I liked, I liked him on the, on the card and he was also screaming. He was screaming. Giants fans being like, fuck you. Yeah. I was a sick place. They were saying shit to him. It was one of the more athletic plays I've ever seen. Like he got the punt blocked, right?

And he scooped it up with one hand, avoided a defender and then got absolutely leveled. After running for like seven yards and it looked like his ribs just got crunched into his body and they were going to have to like take him off on the car, but he was pissed off to be leaving the game. Yeah. I always love it when there's like an injury to a punter or a kicker and then the punter has to try to kick or the kicker has to try to punt because you would think that they'd be the exact same thing and that any kicker would be able to punt.

Not even close. Not at all. Like you, if you watch a punter try to kick nine times out of 10, they're going to like kick it out of balance by accident. They're going to miss it that bad. It makes no sense. Throw in. Yeah.

It makes no sense. Um, for the Giants, they're just not that good. They aren't like, no, look, they've had a nice season. They've overachieved. I think most Giants fans would agree their roster is very limited. You can't, the minute that the Eagles were up 21, nothing, the game was over. The Giants are not built to come back from 21 down. Like they, they need everything to kind of go right to stay in a game to make those,

those kind of games work. They just don't have enough talent. Yeah. The, what, what would the outside of Saquon, the entire Eagles offensive team, I don't even know. Miles Sanders has been that good. Would, would the Giants swap? They would take every single player before theirs on the offensive starting 11.

I'm looking right now. I think so. That just tells you that. I don't know that much about the interior line of the Giants, but I'm going to, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that, yeah, the Eagles, that's how much of a mismatch it is. The biggest thing about the Eagles is that the offensive, like it hurts us so much time there every single play and our run game is dominant because of our offensive line.

Yeah. So the Giants just don't have that. The Giants are a nice story, nice season. They still can get in the playoffs. They have that Sunday night game against the commanders next week, but they're just not, I don't think anyone's deluding themselves to be like, the Giants, wow, that's such a bad loss. They're just, the Eagles are a significantly more talented team.

Yeah. Because I think we're, they were just kind of along for the ride earlier this season. They're like, holy shit, that's incredible. Brian Dables doing a great job with this team. It was fun. But nobody thought they weren't deluding themselves into thinking that they're going to win playoff games. Right.

Right. So it might be, the air might be coming out of the, yeah, the Giants, it feels like we're for the, for the seventh seed. That's why I want the Lions to get in because they are the only of the, the commanders are playing good football, the Seahawks and the Giants are not and the, and the Lions are playing good football. Yeah. In the, in terms of fairness, if we just went fairness, the Lions would make the playoff.

They should. Yeah. And I mean, the commanders dominated the bye week this week. This was huge. Like we buttfucked the bye week. Seahawks lose. We had, we had the Seahawks lose. We had the Giants lose.

This was a great week for the commanders. Yeah. You guys had a nice week. So that's that game. Next up, we have Raven 16 Steelers 14. What is there to say about this game? Because this game sucked. This game, not even the colors of the Raven Steelers who, by the way, don't like each

other. Yeah. And you can throw out the record books when they get together. It's bad. It's bad for my boy. Mitch. Yeah. It was probably his last chance.

That was tough. He comes in. Kenny Pickett played well before he got a concussed, which I'm getting a little, yeah, you had a touchdown drive. He had a touchdown drive. He has 75 year touchdown drive. Okay. I think to start the game, right?

I thought he, he was like 0 for one passing or something like that. No, I'm pretty sure you had a 75 year touchdown drive to start the game and then got concussed. And I, I mean, I think Kenny is good. Mitch is not good. Yeah. Kenny was 0 for one. He was. He was 0 for one with zero yards.

Where did I think they had a touchdown? Oh, they did have a touchdown with him on the field. He had, he had two carries for 16 yards. That was not, he had a long of 13. That's probably what you remember. Oh no, they scored with, with Mitch in there. For some reason, I just blanked and was like, oh, Kenny played. Okay.

No. Yeah. That's right. Because right when Mitch got in there, right when Mitch got in there, we were all like, that's Mitch Trebisky. He's a great backup coming off the bench. Yes. He's not going to be your starter, but he's an impact sub.

And then he went on to throw a three in our seven. Hand up. That's a, that's a six TV fault of mine where I, I definitely thought that that touchdown drive was Kenny, not Mitch. So Kenny didn't play well. Got, got concussed. And also that's the second concussion this year, which makes me nervous. Mitch, I don't know.

It's, it's not good. Yeah. It's not good. Roquan picked him off. He had like, he had the whole Mitch thing where it was like, there was a pick off over the middle. There's a pick off where he's trying to throw it left. His versatile.

Yeah. It was just like, oh man, I've seen this before. He's a, doesn't look good. I still think he's going to get opportunities to be a backup. Sure. I don't think that he'll ever get a starting spot ever again. There's something I'll say. The Ravens defense very good.

They are good. They're very good. They've got a lot better. Also Mitch, is Mitch still like really young in terms of his football career? Yeah. He's very young. So he only, he started one year in college, right? He hasn't played enough football.

So that's, that's, the jury's still out, jury's still out on Mitch Remiskey. Yeah. That's a fact. He could, he would be a fine Colts quarterback next year. Yeah. Yeah. The, actually the story of this game besides Mitch being bad, the Steelers defense has reverted to not being that great because you also had Tyler Huntley back up, get hurt.

And then Anthony Brown, I was shocked that he's in the NFL because he was not good at Oregon and somehow he's in the NFL. You'd think he comes in, the Steelers should be able to get back in the game and the Ravens being one dimensional still ran the ball right down their throat. Like J.K. Dobbins was awesome. Ravens played defense and ran the ball and old school Ravens football. And yeah, like the Steelers, I saw some, some Mike Tomlin trending.

I saw some, it might be time for Mike Tomlin. Like people are saying that it's very similar to the end of Andy Reed in Philadelphia where it's, he's not a bad coach. He's actually a very good coach. It's just been a very long time and it might be time for a change. It's been like half a long time though in terms of Pittsburgh time. True. Like another 10 years and they'll be like, okay, that's, that will still feel like they're

moving on too quickly. No, he's probably got another 10 years, he's probably going to win another Super Bowl. Yeah. That's what the Steelers will do. They are, they are pissed at him in Pittsburgh and it does feel like it's more than just a one year rebuild at this point too. Yeah. It feels like it's going to take a couple to, to really smooth out all the problems they

have. Well, they put, they put a lot of money into their defense, Brian Flores is there. Like you'd think that their defense would be able to stand up in a game like this where you're up against the third string quarterback for the Ravens and they just weren't like the Ravens just kept on getting first downs and they needed to running the ball knowing that they probably can't pass because they don't have that ability and the Steelers couldn't do anything about it. And that's, that's got to like for the true Yinsers, that would drive you insane.

It would. It would. And the Ravens, they are like anamorphic into the old school Ravens defense right now. And we've been talking for the last couple of years about how that Ravens defense, just because they wear those jerseys that are not the same team. So don't expect them to come out there and just dominate defensively. Now they kind of are doing that. Yeah.

Now they're able to turn like they flip the switch and it's like 2001 all over again. And they got dudes everywhere. Dudes. Dudes on dudes on dudes. They got dudes everywhere. So the Steelers are done. Here's the, here's the other part. If you're going to, if you're sitting at five and seven, there was a group of teams sitting

at five and seven this week, the Raiders on Thursday night, which we obviously talked about the Lions, the Steelers, the Browns. There is a little bit of freedom in losing that game where the start of the run the table game. You know, when you're, you're sitting there as a fan, you're like, Hey, if we run the table, we're in the playoffs, you don't even get the car out of the garage. It's over. Like Steelers fans, you don't have to get your hopes up.

Like you don't have to play the what if, if you had won three games in a row and then lost the last two and you're like, Oh man, we were right there. No, no. It's over. Time for next year. Like figure out what you got and, and it's next year. Yeah. So if I agree with that, because that can, that will drive you insane.

Right. If you, if you think like, okay, if we do the impossible here, we can work it out. And if you win like one or two games, you're like, Oh no, look at us. Yeah. It's like you're appealing your death sentence over and over and over again. Then the governor's like, No, flip the switch. You're done. You're done.

So it's, it's bad news. If you're a Steelers fan right now, pick it probably, I'm going to guess he'll be out next week. If that's his second concussion of the year. Why would you chance putting him out there again? Yeah. If Mitch, what, if Mitch continues to play like this, you know that Rothless Burger has at least thought about picking up the phone, right?

Like I'm not saying that they take his call. They probably gave him like the rejection hotline in case like he gets antsy during the season and wants to call to leave a message. They probably gave him a fake phone number, but you know, Big Ben has considered picking up the phone to call and be like, Hey, if you need me, if you need me, I'm ready to go. I've got a couple of weeks left. Yes.

I'm ready up. I'm ready to go coach. Yeah. Man, that would be a fun way to end the season. That'd be a great way to end the season because I mean, think about it. If you're, if you're the Steelers and the run, the table fantasy is over, you like to sell some tickets, right? Why not?

Let's get better way to sell tickets. I just have Big Ben back. How about every year just have a farewell Big Ben ending to the season that you don't make the playoffs? Yeah. No. And have it actually be a true farewell to Big Ben where they do the retirement ceremony all over again.

At the camera is like, yeah, following him into the locker room with his family afterwards. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, when they do like do the ring of honor, whatever they have in the Steelers for Big Ben, Big Ben night, he's definitely going to ask to play. Yeah. Let me just throw one. Yeah. Let me just get in there for once.

And then I ended up and then he's going to be on this podcast and be like, I wasn't planning on playing. And then I was like, Hey, let me throw a one and I just ended up next thing you know, I had 70 pass attempts last night. Next thing you know is getting sacked. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, the dolphins.

Did they get it? Yeah. Almost recovered the onsite. Oh, they might have gotten it. They're saying they did. I don't think they did. They pointed first though. They pointed first.

There's no, I love the guy who's got to be a fast pointer. That's that's most the job on the hands team. I love the guy who's on the pile who has no ability to tell who has the ball pointing. Like we got it. We got it. Chargers are pointing more now. They got it. Chargers got it.

So Chargers win. They almost charged this. Let's, let's, let me do a quick ad and then let's talk about this game. That's it for Raven Steelers. I mean, yeah, I think so. We've reached the big Ben will hear what he pointed the discussion. I'd say we can move on. That's like the, that's our version of the wrap it up music.

Yeah. It's like, when we start talking about big Ben during the Steelers recap, it's like, all right guys, wrap it up. You know, you know that he's thought about it. Oh yeah. And we have. Yeah. A lot.

A lot. I'm thinking about it right now. A lot. All right. So game time, if the Steelers do do the big Ben retirement tour night game time will get you there. Can we just start that rumor? Yeah.

The big Ben is thinking about coming back. He's willing to start for the Steelers if needed. Yeah. If needed, he is absolutely, he's in the best shape of his life right now and he's rediscovered his love for the game and he's willing to come back there. If you need him. If you need him. So game time, game time is exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.

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That's two losses where two has not looked good and they have another game coming up against the bills on Saturday night. They're all the way across the country right now, Jake. It feels like the bottom's falling out a little bit. Yeah. It's not good. I'm talking to this mic and say, uh, to us ceilings, Patrick Mahomes, but I'll call it how it is and say, uh, yeah, the last two games have been off and they're at Buffalo.

That was a little blow. Jake had Buffalo next week. Uh, so yeah, not great. Like you mentioned the three for 17 start, but what do you finish up as that couldn't be great to us. It's bad. It was a very bad start for 10 for 28. The coolest part of that game was, was, uh, the fumble where the ball squirted out of

the back of the pile, Tyreek Hill grabs it and the second Tyreek Hill touched the ball. Jake goes, he's going to score because like that, that's what you think with Tyree. If Tyreek Hill gets his hands on a football in the middle of the field unexpectedly, nobody's going to be able to. That's funny. You said that because, uh, Max producer of the year said, uh, can't advance a fumble. Doesn't know. I also didn't know the fair catch kick rule.

I had to explain that to Max. We have to know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. It's built on bad takes and knowing ball.

That was a bad moment. Not a take. Not a take. Not a take. It wasn't a take. It was just you not knowing ball. Put the camera on yourself and apologize. I know.

I got excited. I got, it's like, I thought I was, I was knowing a rule that was going to make me sound smart and it instead made me sound terrible. Even later I asked him, I go, Hey Max, okay, since we're teaching each other ball, let's do a little quick pop quiz. What's the targeting rule in the NFL? And then he started to explain it to me and I'm like, I'm like, dude, there's no targeting rule trick question as college.

This was like the fifth question. What a ball. This was like the fifth line of questioning. We need to take you to ball test. No. We need to do a ball test. I can. A ball test would be funny.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Not, not for me, but just in general. Like a ball test. A ball test. Yeah. Do you know?

How many feet? Besides you and PFT, who knows ball the most? I think maybe you Hank. I agree. It might, it might be Hank. Although the hungry dog has not hit this year. So maybe not. It's either Hank or.

I mean, what? I'm being honest. You don't know. Hungry dog ball. Wait, when we say ball. I think weird rules. I think it's. You know, ball.

It's pretty simple. If you have to ask and you can't afford it. And for. I mean, you don't really ask. You've played ball, but you don't know right down the 32 teams like a year ago and you couldn't do it. No, no, you gave me a time limit. You don't know.

You don't know. You don't know. You don't know. I could say it's okay. It's okay now. You're young. When I was your age, I didn't know ball. Billy.

It comes with. I actually. We've watched like twice as much football as you have. Be careful, Billy, because you don't want us to go to the next level and call you casual. Right. Yeah. I'm going to be honest. You don't know.

Back when I played. You don't know like that. Yeah. You know, I couldn't watch college football. And then on Sundays, I had to do all my homework. So was it? Yeah. Yeah.

I've never done homework or anything. Right. No. Billy, the fact is me and Big Cat have watched probably more than twice as much football as you have. It's actually. Snowball. People don't like underestimate how much football like you guys especially want.

I've forgotten the names of more like two and 14 coaches than you will ever learn in your life. This year, we should try to. We should actually do like a tally any game. Anytime we watch a game start to finish and how many games we watch start to finish in a given season. NFL should send you like an end of the year Spotify rap thing where it shows you like how much time you spent watching Red Zone.

Yeah. And Max's would just say, you don't know ball. Yeah. Sorry, bro. Let's go back. You can't advance it. You can't advance it. All right.

It's okay. It's not a big deal, Max. I feel bad for you. Also, it's good because it's not like you said it around me because like I if you said around me, I wasn't going to tell anyone that you said that. You're the only person I said it around. Oh, no, don't worry. I'm not going to go tell anybody it was the next 20 minutes of our time was just quizzing

me on football. Listen, listen, Max, Max, you don't you prove to me that you don't know ball like we had a little pop quiz. You got you got the forward pass question correct about like any part of the quarterback spot. You knew that one. This way, like you represent us. I know.

Don't embarrass us. Like if you go out to a bar and like imagine if you were at a bar and that play happened and you screamed out can advance it and everyone turned around and like, yo, aren't you back girl from PMT? Bro, do you even know ball? What if it was like a Chargers bar and you said that in there? Oh, we'd be so in charge of bars. I don't think there I don't think there is a Chargers bar in North America.

No. If it was the Dolphins bar and you screamed it out loud and everybody was like, oh, that's not going to count. They'd be so mad at you and that would look so bad on us. Wait. PFT explained the fair catch kick rule because not that many people know about it. Yeah. Well, people that know ball understand the fair catch kick rule because it's usually only

used in high school. Yeah. No, that's when it most effectively like the scenario occurs where like a game winning field goal like within at the end of the half or at the end of the game, you can fair catch a kick. It can be a pun or a kickoff. You can fair catch it and then you get one untimed uncontested kick. You can put the ball on a tee and kick off that tee and try to get a field goal with

three points. It happened. It's happened a couple of times in the last 10 years. Yeah. I want to say like, yeah. The Carolina Panthers did it in London. Yeah. Well, no.

I told him. I told him about that. I was doing a ton of research. That's okay. That doesn't matter how it doesn't matter how he knows ball. It's just dropping something like that. Like he gains our trust. No.

But no, he doesn't really know ball. He's like Matt Damon and Goodwill Hunting where, you know, I'm going up to the guy in the bar. It's like, oh, yeah, I read that too. He told me about the Marxist, the economic system of the plantations. You can tell us about Steve Sable. Yeah. I watched that too.

I watched all the old things. One day you're going to just look yourself in the mirror and realize that you spent $40,000 on education. You could have gotten it for $4.99 in the library card. No. You could have gotten it for $59.99 with a red zone in your couch. Think about that. Sorry.

I mean, we're old school. We learn. Remember when you asked who the last Eagles receiver to have a thousand yards was? You do it Jeremy Mathfinger. I think I said, I think I said, wasn't that Macklin? And then you said, yes, sir. Well, it was, it was attributable. That's true.

You said, yes, sir. PFT. Well done, sir. Well, we were having the discussion earlier and that was, that was a question that somebody asked me. Oh, I wasn't in the room for that. You were, that was a completely separate. This is, this is completely random.

You're grasping that's wrong. I know. I just want, I just want some sort of. You just want to know ball. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

No one ever truly knows ball. It's the act of, of learning ball. By the way, confirmed I was correct 2013 to 15 was Chip Kelly, Philadelphia Eagles. Damn. You know ball. I do know ball. Okay. All right.

Chargers win. That was a big win for the Chargers. Yeah. And it, I don't know if it was too looking bad, but the Chargers defense looked better than they've looked in a long time and they have the receivers back. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to believe in the Chargers, but with that said, I think they are the seven seat.

No one wants to say, dude. I'm sick. No one wants to see him. I'm sick of people like the backlash to the backlash of Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert is just a good quarterback. If you think that Justin Herbert's not a good quarterback, he's good. Then you actually do not know about like he can play quarterback. It's fucking Ocho in his like little like a rant where he missed the point and being

like, dude, Justin Herbert is a social media court. No, no, no. He's a good quarterback. He means a social media quarterback. He got confused as he often does where he thought he was saying the Chargers are a social media team in the fact that NFL media every August and like a bunch of blue check marks suck their dick and doing like Chargers, the best team in the NFL. And then we watch and if you know ball, you know that one, they're all going to get injured

and two, they're just going to charger shit up and fall below expectations. That's how they're a social media team. Yes. Justin Herbert's just a good quarterback. Yeah. He's like, Justin Herbert is one of the best young quarterback. He has regressed this year just like numbers wise, DVOA and shit. But I still watch the game and I'm like half the time he doesn't have receivers with him.

And he's also just, it feels like he's, he's stuck in that third and 18 every time because if they make a stupid penalty, they try a screen pass because they can't run the ball where it gets blown up and then he's got to make a huge play and he usually does. Yeah. I'll be very clear. If they make the playoffs are going to lose the Chiefs and get like three punts blocked in that game. It's going to be scary though.

For a second, it'll be a disaster for the Chargers because they will charge us away the game pretty badly. I feel like they'll be up like 10 nothing though and we'll be like, whoa, they might. Yeah, they might watch out. It might be like that Texans Chiefs game a few years ago where they take an early lead and then Patrick Mahomes is like, okay, I'm just going to piss missiles all over you. Yeah. And then it's end of game.

So the Chargers have a game against the Titans coming up and then at Colts Rams Broncos. The Chargers, this was a huge game because it feels like they can make the playoffs now and when I say that, that means they'll probably lose two out of two out of four of those in stupid fashion. They'll lose to the Rams. I did have a moment today where I was screaming at the TV at Brandon Staley just fucking kick a field goal. I know.

Just kick a fucking field goal. I know. I'm going to declare this. Please hold me to it. Jake, can you make a note? Chargers if they play in prime time, remove the over 3.5 field goal bet from the Chargers in prime time, because there's nothing more frustrating than betting on that bet and Brandon Staley going for it on like fourth and six from the 20 yard line.

The part that I don't understand and obviously it worked out tonight because they got the touchdown at the end of the first half, but part of going for it on fourth and goal from like the two yard line is that if you don't get it, you back them up and then you expect if you can just get three stops, you have the punt and you have now you're in plus territory, right? I don't get it why you do it at the end of a half when you don't get the benefit. That's what I was saying. Backing them up.

You don't get it on the back end at all. Right. Yep. Okay. So all right. Look at us. We're understanding the fourth down probability. A lot.

A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. They're on Monday night and two weeks to charge. I'm not. I'm at the Colts. We're not betting on 3.5 field goals on that one.

We're not going to do it. That's the game they're going to lose by the way. And they're slated for week 17 Sunday night. Football potential flex of the year. Rams Chargers. And the Chargers at Colts. That's the game they're going to lose. Okay.

That's the game. They're going to win next week. They're going to be actually in the playoffs like when you look at the playoffs standings they'll be in there then they'll somehow lose the Colts for no reason. Yep. That's absolutely what's going to happen. All right. Next up Jaguars Titans.

Trevor Lawrence. Can we say it has officially arrived? He's like he's taxing to the gate right now. He's playing. So obviously last week he didn't play well. He also got the most horrific injury that didn't take him out of any game. But he was awesome today. Awesome awesome awesome.

I think he had one of his best games at pro. He had that game what two weeks ago where they beat the Ravens. So he's now putting together semi adjacent incredible performances. And I'll just say so maybe hasn't arrived. I am firmly in the Trevor Lawrence is your franchise quarterback. Yeah. Like I'm set with that. No longer a bust.

I've seen enough if you can do the right things. I'm now in the Jaguars can fail Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence can't fail the Jaguars territory. So he he's close to arrival. He's circling. He's on final approach. And today he he had a pretty important milestone in Jaguars franchise history. First quarterback with 300 pass yards multiple pass touchdowns and a rushing touchdown in

a single game. The rushing touchdown was pretty cool. Never happened before. Mark Brunel never did that. So it's pretty cool. Pretty cool that you actually have a quarterback that I agree you build around now. You don't even think about what your future is a quarterback. You know what your future is going to be a quarterback.

Now it's only going to be like how good can Trevor Lawrence be. He yeah he was yeah 30 for 42 368 yards three touchdowns. And more than anything it's the throws he's making down the field. So the last three weeks he's six touchdown zero interceptions on 10 plus air yards. He's like now pushing the ball making those throws that were kind of like sketchy. I don't even know how to explain it when we watched it when it was bad last year and the first half of this year where it was like they would say a little bit it was like not even yeah right.

It wasn't that he was missing guys. It was just the balls just like they were just weirdly placed and like you know hitting guys helmets and stuff. I think he's still hit a helmet today. But he looked awesome today. The Jaguars looked really good today. The Jaguars are now maybe in the playoff hunt because the Jaguars are playing good football and the Titans are reeling.

The Titans are playing bad football. They are I think they've lost three in a row now. It feels like just nothing is working like what they could rely on before like really good defense ball control has not been there. And I looked at the schedule. I said I think the nerd that's on NBC put in a 14 percent chance the Jaguars can make the playoffs. Yeah.

Kornaki I told our good friend Uncle Chaps I'm saying 20 percent chance you you're upping his percentage of his his dad is wrong. My dad is right. All right. So right now I'm going with a different nerd. Okay. The 538 website has the Jaguars at 15 percent. Okay.

So they're also so they're they're wrong but it sounds like they're more right than the nerd on NBC. Yes. Yes. They're the the nerd at 538 Nate Silver his model more closely follows your model. Yes. Then Steve Kornakis. I've looked at it.

I've crunched the numbers. If the Jaguars can beat either the Cowboys or the Jets in the next two weeks. I think they can make the playoffs and this is all predicated on the Titans kind of fumbling the bag here and looking not great. Well and also this this weekend or next weekend when it's Cowboys at Jaguars that's a lookahead spot for the Cowboys because they're looking forward to Max's Eagles. Yes. That's also a weird matchup where I can't really name many times those teams have played.

No. Cowboys Jaguars never feel like the Jags never did the Jags ever play on Thanksgiving. They were weird to your god no they wore weird uniforms in Dallas once. Black ones with the the gradient. Yeah. The multicolor. I have a memory of that. But yeah that's a matchup that you can't like name your favorite Jaguars Cowboys memory.

It's never happened. It's never happened like the Dolphins the Dolphins I don't think have ever played against the Seahawks. Maybe they played actually did they play this year. No no they was at the sprinkler game. Yeah might have been like two years ago. What are the sprinklers came on on the field. Who.

The Dolphins. Yeah I think that was who was last time the Jaguars it was four years ago but who is playing in that game. What was the result. 40 to 7 Cowboys. I think that is when they wore those those jerseys and it was really Blake. I know it was Blake. I'm pretty sure that's what they can you find it probably bad by that game.

It's probably Wendy 15 for twenty six one forty nine one plus we don't do that. No. All right. Can we can we see the better than two of them. Can we say a picture of the game please. Yes. So yeah so the Jaguars play the Cowboys next week. If if they could beat the Cowboys or the Jets.

I think they can do it. I really do because the Titans are playing poorly and they play again week 18 and they already have beaten them once so if you can find a way like if let's just say yeah so is the black ones. I don't know if it was the gradient. I do I do remember that game. If they could somehow pull off a upset against the Cowboys next week. Here's the problem.

If the Titans if they just beat the Texans that no I've no that's part of my model. I know I've got I'm saying the Titans if they just beat the Texans in week 16 then they're eighty percent to get into the playoffs right but but if the Titans go one and three and the Jaguars go three and one the Jags make it. That's my model is it might come down to week 18. That's what I'm saying. That's my model. Week 18 model.

You don't want to go to Duval. No you don't. Not in January. Not in January. Is that January 8th. January 8th. No. No sir.

Who let's play. Who's lunch Cowboys Jaguars Cowboys by five and a half. I was going to say four and a half. Can you look it up six six damn good. My note on this one is the Titans Jaguars game should always be played on Thursday night. That's that should be a Thursday night matchup. This should not. This is not a Sunday matchup.

It's not a Monday night matchup. Dear God it's not a Saturday. It's a Thursday night matchup. Yeah. Have to wear the color Russian. Yeah. The baby the baby poop yellow. Yeah.

The we also had Evan Ingram who is torturing Giants fans now because he was awesome today. He had 162 yards and two touchdowns. He also is we've we've talked about it how the Jaguars just never have tight ends. He is the sixth time that a Jaguar's tight end has eclipsed 100 yards receiving in a game. That's crazy. To put it into perspective Travis Kelsey has 33 times he's done it. Gronk has 32.

The Jaguars as a franchise have done it six times. So in their history they've got they had like three good years of Mercedes Lewis. So I couldn't even find this. I couldn't even find. I found four out of or five out of six of them. I couldn't find the six. I'll bet Julius Thomas probably maybe I bet you he had one. It was Mercedes Lewis had one Kyle Brady to Pete Mitchell one.

And Evan Ingram had one today. Tebow did Tebow ever get one. Tebow did not preseason bring Tebow back season warrior. But yeah the Titans I again I don't think they're frauds because I think they're just not that good right now. No I think the Titans are still going to make the playoffs. I think they've just a chance. They just they clinched the division in September.

But did they that one game against the Colts when they beat the Colts it's like OK that's the thing and the Titans can just be siebs for the rest of the year not really do shit and not really exert themselves too much. What's the odds. I want to be bet on the. It would be nice. It would be nice to see the Jaguars in the playoffs but it's going to be the Titans. They're going to get bounced and then everyone's going to play the you need to respect the

Titans card more because they've been to the playoffs like five years in a row. The Jaguars are plus five fifty. The Titans are the Atlanta Braves South the Tennessee Titans are the the mid 90s Atlanta Braves of the NFL. They just keep wrapping up division. You're going to get to the playoffs every single year. Some weird is going to happen. You're going to be very mad for a couple of days and then you'll be like OK we'll get

him next year. Yeah. Look we're already projected at like ninety three percent to win the division next year. Yeah I'm just rooting for maximum amount of new teams. I want the Jaguars in. I want the Lions in. All right. I listen I you will not find a bigger line support.

I on behalf of commanders fans I hope Lions fans will reciprocate. You can join the command wagon. I'll join the Lions band wagon. I want those two teams make the playoffs together. Yeah. OK so that's that game. Next up Bengals Browns Bengals twenty three Browns ten Bengals get the monkey off their back.

They haven't beaten the Browns in two and a half years so five straight and it feels like Sean Watts actually wasn't that bad for the start of the game and then it was essentially like every Browns game with Jacobi Berset actually was thinking Jacobi Berset could win this game. The Sean Watts at the end of the game started throwing picks and the Browns like penalties left and right. It was like it felt like the Browns every Browns game they had a chance they should have been out of the game and they were still in the game up until I don't know five minutes left

they kept getting the ball back down 13 and then not being able to do anything. Yeah the Bengals had a sick flea flicker that was that was Trent Irwin Trent Irwin not I think it's not Trent in Trent in Irwin I think it's Trent and not Trent Taylor. You also had a double I think Trent Taylor had like thirty two yards thirty four yards one catch thirty four yards. There we go. A single double at that point very good. I'm on his stats every week I'm looking them up because because when Trent Irwin caught

the flea flicker for a second I was so pumped I was like our fucking dude just caught a touchdown. They look very different right but Trent Trent in and Trent you know can get a little confusing it can. Yeah so the Bengals they got the monkey off their back like you said they need this is more like not it didn't really have that much of an impact I don't think it will have that much of an impact on the Bengals postseason hopes I think the Bengals are going to make the postseason I think that they're pretty well positioned right now to do that.

Yeah they're not it was more about the Bengals just getting that confidence of like okay the Browns don't have our number anymore we're good enough to not have like a curse against us. Yes and so it was big it was a statement went for them. There was one moment where Deshaun Watson developed a cramp in his hamstring did you see that. He started to cramp up after he fell down on the ground and then he just like grabbed his leg and started to like rub his own cramp out of his leg and everyone stood around him

like everyone was thinking about it but nobody said it. Yeah it was a very funny moment. Yes just like watch all his teammates like look at him be like should we call somebody out. Yeah I don't know Deshaun what you take care of that yourself. Yeah do that yourself. Yeah the Bengals yeah they're they're I mean they have kind of a tough schedule still left they have to they have to play the Ravens and the Bills and the Bucks don't.

I'm not counting the Bucks is good anymore. They're not a football team. They're not good anymore so that that's not a part of their tough schedule. But one of my favorite things that happened in this game and the Bengals second half defense by the way still elite seven points given up. We have a good old fashioned uprising of fantasy football players very upset at a coach. There are a lot of people a lot of people that want to murder Zach Taylor T. Higgins if you didn't follow if he is not on your team and we're getting to the playoffs we're

getting to right before the playoffs T. Higgins was taken off the injury report report he was on all week he played one snap and then he came out of the game and didn't play for the rest of the game and people are fucking pissed pissed. I actually this is maybe like a masochist but I love to just search name search like people upset at coaches like the Matthew Berries of the world just getting so upset yeah at coaches who who do this to the fantasy owners this late in the season. One guy said Zach Taylor and the Bengals should be fined $500,000 for removing T. Higgins from the injury report while not playing him.

Second time this year it's happened. You've got fantasy chances. We have fantasy championships to win here. Big guy who do you think pays these guys salaries. I mean it's a good question. It's fantasy football. It's yeah it's fantasy football owners. Yeah people are so mad.

Like I said there's a I just I just search it like the whole time the the NFL cannot allow the Cincinnati Bengals to continue to lie about the injury status of its players if they're going to be a partner with the gambling and fantasy community. Joe mixing T. Higgins Shane Falco. How much longer will this go on Shane Falco. So check this out big cat. T. Higgins actually snuck onto the field. It was not a coach's decision.

He was supposed to be out the entire game. I don't know if that makes it any better. But T. Higgins snuck onto the field because he wanted to get into the game without his coach's permission. He just like he did the the Peyton Manning when Brock Osweiler was supposed to get in the game and he snuck onto the field ball because he loves ball. He wanted to be out there with his buddies with his teammates. And so he gets onto the field and then his coaches they just kept them off.

They're like dude we told you that you're not playing today. I need to hear from Matthew Barry's got to be furious. This is another one. This T. Higgins injured but not on the final injury report shit is really shitting on my Sunday like what are we doing here. It's hands on site Zach Taylor. Hands on site. That was from Linda.

Linda DeLions. I like that. Respect. She's ready to fucking fight Zach Taylor. I just there's something about a good old fashioned like you know ramps up right when you get to play off before fantasy and I have I have sympathy for fantasy football players right now. That sucks.

If you go into the the last week of the regular season and you have this happening you you have reason to be pissed. Hands on site Zach Taylor. Yeah. No it's it's definitely like if I put myself in your position I would be I'd be furious especially if it's like a big money league. Yes. If there's a lot at stake I'd be very upset about it but ultimately it's a reminder

that that they don't really care. No. That the NFL like does not give a fuck. No. About your $500,000. They should be fine. Yeah. $500,000.

Like it's it it should serve as like a small wake up call to people to be like hey they really don't your fancy league doesn't matter. Yeah. At all. But but hands on site. But the people that take fancy football very seriously will never ever understand that which is why I love them. Yeah.

I'll just search it. I'll probably go to bed tonight like searching Zach Taylor. Fuck you. I'll be watching all the all the different replies. What are you going to say Hank? Did you have any. I mean no one cares about fantasy but I missed out on a playoff spot tonight because I started the Titans defense.

They got negative seven points. Oh well that's just your you don't know ball. That's nothing. What that's nothing to do with well because I tell it. I think we all knew that the Jaguars put up points this week. Yeah. I think I gave you that on on Friday show. Give it to you.

He did give it to you. You should have listened to me because I know ball. Who's ahead in the standings right now. Ball knower. Fuck Zach Taylor pulling Higgins off the injury report not playing him should be punishable. I hope the Bengals lose every game from here on out. We just need justice like they need to figure out a way to like get Zach Taylor in a dunk tank or something.

Something needs to be done for. I think it should be hands on site. Yeah. I think you should be every fancy owner should be allowed to slap him or at least like shoot him with an airsoft gun. Yeah. What are you going to say Billy. No I was going to say something about my fantasy team.

I just picked up Jerick McKinnon off waiver wires. He went off today. Well done. Oh that's sick. That's real sick. I just had to tell somebody. All right. You've been told.

You told all the WLs. I do love this though that he should be fine 500,000. I love that one. Yeah. Where did you come up with that number. I wonder. I don't know. That was it feels right.

Oh it's a it's a fancy football guy. Yeah. No no no. I did my research. I was searching people mad at Zach Taylor for about 20 minutes today. This guy's a super flex truther. Yeah. No he was $500,000 feels right.

Yeah I'm with this guy. 500 grand. 500 grand. The last thing I had from this game just a weird stat that's kind of fun. Fun stat you can walk around with in the back pocket and just tell people. Jamar Chase is now the third wide receiver ever in NFL history with Devonte Adams and Brandon Marshall who had 10 plus catches and also were sacked. Yeah he took a bad sack today.

He took a really bad sack. So they tried to spring him on a was it an in around or something like that and get him out in space and throw a pass. And he took one of the worst sacks of all time. It was like it was a Matt Ryan sack. You would think that a player that is so good at wide receiver would have a shred of escape ability to them. But the second they turn into a quarterback.

They just get sacked. Yeah. And he looked at Joe Burr after. He's like I don't know what to do. Yeah. That was bad. They also we also had there was a report which I love this because it's always like a no duh but teams should get credit for doing even the no duh things.

There was a report today before the game that the Bengals had have changed their entire offense in week five this season. Yeah. To give Joe Burrow like way more control and they've won six of seven since. Yeah. No duh. That's when he started going shotgun. Yeah.

No duh. Yeah. It's just very funny that like they had to they had to be like sit down and be like oh our franchise quarterback who is like an insane leader and makes all the right decisions. Maybe we should let him do it more. Yeah. It was it was so obvious. It was like OK put him stop putting him under center.

Yeah. He hates that. That just sucks to have to bend over you know 50 times a game. Let him stand up straight and take the ball like a man and do what it is that he does. Yeah. Like a man like a man does. Yeah. Play man ball.

This was it was a senior night for the Bengals. I lost track of this was senior night or if this was Haram I think it was Harambe night right because they were getting the monkey off their back. Yeah they got their monkey off. So the monkey is officially off the back. The only other note that I had here was David and Joku. He he to me he feels like he could be Antonio Gates if he had a good quarterback. Like I always forget how good he is.

Yeah. Until he gets the ball in his hand and it's like oh that guy's actually like a little bit different. I think he drops balls. Oh does he. I think he's got bad hands. I feel like I've in like the back of my head. I just see him like in the end zone about to make a great catch and he drops it because

every time he he catches a ball and runs with it you're like oh that dude is legit. Right. Right. He might have some some drop issue. He's got a little bit of the pickings thing where the easy catches. Yeah right. Where he gets his hands twisted. I had a meager 3.8 drop rate last year.

I don't know what that means but it said meager in front of it. Oh that's that's pretty good. So that's might be just he dropped the one that I've remembered and I just can't get out of my head. I think it was hard knocks. Was it. That he was dropping. What was his drop rate the year before.

3.8 is the drop percentage. He only had two drops last year. What about the year before that. I don't know. That's this is the most recent year that stats were available. Okay. I think that Brown's hard knocks. There was like he didn't catch a pass and it's just poisoned all of our memories.

Yeah that is true. Anything that happens in hard knocks just stays in my memory forever. That's this guy is awesome. Baker Mayfield throws a hell of a spiral. Kajused. Oh the crystals. Dude. He he's just waiting for his chance.

Bob Wiley presenter. Yeah. 2019 I believe. Yeah. Bob Wiley the troops didn't stretch before D-Day. Yeah. And the fact that he like squeezes into a Lamborghini. Yeah.

Every day. Okay. Next up Cowboys 27 Texans 23. This game actually was close. Yeah. Congrats to the Texans. This was a statement loss on their part. It's a perfect tank loss.

They could they could have won this game. Yeah. If they well yeah they could have. They were in his position to win the game. Like before the game started the Cowboys lost their safety. He got hurt in pregame and they were already down two cornerbacks. One of which was not digs who had a bullshit interception on a Hail Mary at the end of the year.

He was just hawking for it and he was like he was ripping the ball away from his teammate. He's like that's my interception. Yes. Then he went on Twitter afterwards and said just so everybody knows I caught that ball first that interception should be mine. Yeah. He's making sure that he gets real impactful play there. I do want to give credit to the Dallas Cowboys though because big cat off the top of your

head when was the last time the Cowboys had back to back double digit win seasons. I mean it's probably the 90s. It was 1996. Yeah. 95 96 which is crazy. That is crazy considering how much air we we use up talking about the Dallas Cowboys. They're always relevant. They're always relevant and this is the first time that they've actually been consistent

in back to back years. That's you know what though that's that fucks me up now because of the 17 games because now it's like winning 10 games is no longer impressive. It kind of ruined it. Yeah. 10 games was impressive when you were 10 and 6 watermark 10 and 7 is not that impressive 10 6 and 1 is still good 10 6 and 1 is still good but it was always like in the back of your head.

I always was like a 10 win team is a good team. A 12 team is where you start to be like that's a really good team. It's all you know what now a 12 and 5 it's like are they really good. It all goes back to what we remember from like the home screens and Madden we are selecting your team. A 10 and 6 team you're expecting like their overall ratings in the high 80s. Yeah. Right.

Like that's a very good team. And then and then yeah like when you get to the 12 bars where it's like OK now 12 and up 13 and 3 is like that's you got to be the one seed you got to be the favorite. But now like thinking about 13 and 4 and the Vikings going to be 13 and 4. You know what's also crazy is that the Cowboys see themselves as underdogs now. Cowboys yeah Cowboys fans are like nobody believes in us where the Dallas Cowboys find you annoying. Yeah you're just fucking really really annoying because we you get talked about all the time

and you haven't been good since the 90s. You're the worst. Yeah. But they're good. They are good this year. Like I'm trying not to hold their fans against them as a team but the Cowboys are are very good. This was a very easy game for them to stumble and lose.

They were 17 and a half point favorites. They had to go into this game being like this is not we don't even have to get out of bed for this. I still though and Max is going to love me saying this. I don't maybe it's because I just haven't seen it. I just don't I don't know if I trust Dak at a huge playoff moment. Maybe it's because you know what it is all it like the run 17 yard run to end the game last year.

You know what it is. I feel like he throws a shitload of second quarter interceptions. If we can figure out a way to he might be the worst second quarter quarterback in the NFL. If we can figure out a way for him to just hand the ball off to Tony Pollard in the second quarter and not attempt any passes. I think they might be in business. I also think that maybe it's because it's not the passing.

I think he's a very good passer. I think it might be that I don't I feel like he could run a little bit more and he doesn't you know he doesn't. It feels like sometimes there will be easy yards there and he also runs sideways a lot. He panics sometimes. So he gets in like when he starts scrambling you can tell that he's he's just like it's he's terror. Yeah he's got terror in his eyes and tearing his legs away that he runs the sleeves.

I have to figure out what it is because the Cowboys are very very good and I think Dak is a very good quarterback. It's also just seeing it to believe it like I would say the same thing. I don't know. Name a quarterback that like we haven't seen it actually happen all the way yet for Ryan Tannehill. Well yeah that duh. I don't I don't believe that.

I'm just I'm thinking like out loud like just winning a big playoff game. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. Yeah I have to see it. Yeah. Has it what what's Dak's biggest playoff win. I guess that's it right there is what I'm talking about. Like what is his biggest playoff.

He won the MVP. That's I think I think I found I think I found it mentally that like he it's just it's you know how it is like just win one big playoff game and then forever I'm gonna be like yep I could see it. I think he'd be off game winner. He beat the Seahawks a couple years ago. Yeah I wish our internet worked in this fucking office. Do you do you know offstop your head max it just doesn't exist.

Dak's biggest playoff win. I don't know. His guy always got bailed out today though. That's for sure. I mean it was fourth and one the Texans had were able to win the game and it was a broken play on fourth and one. It looked like it was an option. Jeff Driscoll ran the wrong way.

Yeah going Jeff Driscoll and that was a horrible pick that's a horrible pick. He's got one playoff win and it was against Seattle. Okay so yeah so there it is yeah it was it was 2019 so that's probably why that's definitely why because he hasn't won the playoffs right so it's like win win one big game and in the playoffs start believing but the sleeves are also definitely a thing. Oh the sleeves are too much yeah too much very baggy for if you're. Jack Prescott's a big dude. You should not be wearing baggy sleeves.

Alright so this will be a I mean the Cowboys are the Cowboys the Cowboys absolutely have a team that can go to the Super Bowl. Yeah right. I would say so. So their defense their defense when it's playing well and they have a good running defense yeah. Dak is good but we you know so Trayvon Diggs had that sick interception today. They do it all.

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going to be a clowning it was 27 to nothing and the Broncos somehow woke up yeah and then Russell Wilson got concussed but they woke up that was that was the best the best quarter of football that I think the Broncos have played all season all season Jerry Judy was awesome like they were just going up and down the field it looked like what it should have looked like all year and yeah it was it was a weird game because it really was like 27 nothing you expected the Broncos just so to roll over and die Russ throws a pick six and it turned out to be a fun game and then we had Brett ripping come in throw a touchdown pass on fourth down but yeah the Broncos I still can't believe the Patrick Holmes never

lost an AFC West road game he also is 10 and 0 against the Broncos I would commit several felonies to have Patrick Holmes as my quarterback I was thinking about that like if you could reverse time and go back and make a deal with the devil to be like you get Patrick Mahomes fuck you Hank you know you have a sore throat don't talk 12 years of your life save your throat yeah I would don't talk no I would I know what you're gonna say don't I think I would I would steal a car I would commit wire fraud I would actually I would actually steal candy from a baby to get Patrick Mahomes as my like to be a chiefs fan I bet you that chiefs fans like the life expectancy rate in Kansas City has increased because the entire

happiness of the city is so much better knowing that Patrick Mahomes has been and will continue to be your quarterback for 15 years I crazy I on I do a weekly hit with with Waddle and Sylvia in Chicago and they asked me I think it was like maybe a year or two ago how many toes six yeah three and three yeah three on one foot three on the other six toes I'd give up for Patrick I think I would I would commit any crime short of manslaughter that's road back in time it's a little flip yeah to Jerick McKinnon was so stupid and so like his improvisation still hasn't by the way what Jarvis Ken oh yeah he does I thought you say Patrick Holmes yeah Zach Wilson too yeah but yeah and Patrick Mahomes actually like kind of was bad at points

today at three interceptions yeah well that one where they were they could have just kicked a field goal to basically end the game was very bad it was like quadruple coverage but yeah he is what you can say Hank I just wondering if you guys saw the story like a week or two ago about how the chiefs ended up why they chose yeah yeah we did what why don't you rest your throat and keep eating candy you fat fuck it's a cough drop that you gave me oh yeah well you're not eating candy too I have a couple pieces yeah yeah you got some pieces this is a cough drop yeah yeah I saw the story I thought you said you were talking you're right I would do so many things to get Patrick Mahomes just like your whole life

would be better right now I think you're telling me I don't know what you're talking about I'm just saying like this it would be how this is turned it would be it would make my life so much better now we get it we get it we get it just let's move on and you got to see the good side of Patrick Mahomes in the bad side but the good side of Patrick Mahomes it just he can fuck around all he can throw three interceptions and he's still gonna win 90% of every game that he plays in it's absolutely ridiculous that's gotta suck so bad to be a Broncos fan to be like your franchise is a very good franchise like there was a stretch there where I think I think they might be one of the only teams in the NFL who've never had the first pick

of the draft because they've always been just consistently good like they didn't have multiple losing seasons in a row for many years there well they got John Elway yeah no but that wasn't the first pick wasn't the first I know that he didn't want to he like forced his way into Denver in draft let's find this let's see no you're right you're right though they're never bad enough to be like yeah they but now noteworthy now they have a guy in their division who just owns them owns their life and he's young and he's never going anywhere yeah he's never going anywhere and you're just gonna have to deal with it there's nothing you can do about it he is going to just own your life I'm looking right now yeah I do not believe they ever had the first

pick I think there was a list of it because it was like the Jaguars recently were one of the franchises I think the Seahawks might be the other franchise little fun trivia for everyone out there Jake can you fact check that for me I'm looking at all first overall picks I command F Denver and I don't see anything and what about what about the Seahawks I think they're the other franchise either way the point is anything yeah the Broncos are a very good team and our franchise and Patrick Holmes is their daddy so I technically yes John Elway but it was a Colts pick it was a it was the Baltimore Colts right the first Colts right so technically wasn't the yeah they'd never drafted right right John Elway was like I don't want to play for

the Colts he did the whole Eli Manning right thing that he did the Chargers never had the first pick in the draft which is kind of crazy to think about like that means that you just never have bottomed out yeah and now Patrick Holmes is ten and over so Broncos also fun fact because I was looking it up we talked about Tom Brady being ten and oh against the Falcons John Elway is ten and oh against the Patriots the other one other quarterback trivia other quarterback who is undefeated against the team with more than ten wins can you name it this one shocked me is it active no undefeated against another team with ten wins ten wins ten and oh or more he's eleven and oh against his team Jared no Andrew Breeze Andrew Locke never lost to the Titans

oh that's kind of fun yeah it's fun eleven and oh Andrew Locke never lost to that article that came out about Andrew Locke didn't I didn't really learn anything new about Andrew Locke it was like oh he's trying to enjoy fly fishing now Andrew Locke come on this podcast we will treat you very well and it will be an incredible interview yeah I would like to I'd like to do a deep dive we'll even read one of your books we'll read one of your books we'll have fun we won't ask too many questions that you know we'll just be like we'll have fun if you want to bring so many questions you can bring Sam with you and then just have him beat us up yeah ask any questions it will be actually very fun that you don't like Andrew Locke this is yes the last

quarterback to beat last Broncos quarterback to beat the Chiefs Peyton Manning the Chiefs now have eight straight seasons with ten or more wins that's the fourth longest streak in NFL history that's crazy so Andy Reid is the third coach that has eight straight ten wins seasons the other two you know who the other two are so he's got any read has eight straight ten wins seasons Ella check George Seifert has eight straight from 1989 to 1996 the other coach Bella check had 17 straight ten wins Jesus Christ Jesus Christ and let's say this about the Chiefs I am a little worried about their defense because we just said the Broncos the stat hole gave us gave me a stat that shocked me through week 14 the Owen 16 Browns had

197 points these Broncos they scored 28 points today by the way they have 194 points that's crazy they needed 28 points to get that close that's how bad their offense is I mean for a while we we talked about this a couple weeks ago with Russell Wilson like at what point do you actually bench him because I called Nathaniel Nathaniel Hackett has run out of tricks that he can pull yeah to like keep that locker room together I think the locker room tends to like Nathaniel Hackett but I don't I don't know if they actually believe in him it's just that when the choice is like do you side with Nathaniel Hackett or Russell Wilson people are gonna be like yeah I'm gonna go with a human being Nathaniel Hackett right this one

right but we were talking a couple weeks ago like should he bench Russell Wilson and today it was like he played so bad at the start of this game where you could have legitimately made the argument like sit his ass down it's also so sad watching the Broncos because they also like I've never seen a team give up on third downs more where there'll be third and 10 or third and 12 or whatever and Russell Wilson won't be able to find anyone and it'll just run out of bounds for four yards yeah maybe like what are we gonna do yeah I can't let us punt it wanna be magic out there yeah let's go Russell Wilson also he like hates running and he ran effectively today he did get his head driven into the turf oh my god he got and that was bad he was super I also noted

jet fans were making fun of him it was bad yeah they were I also noted that there was a lot of his teammates that like dapped him up on the way off the field yep just just a verbal check to make sure do his teammates care that he got concussed they did well at the end of the day like we're all human beings here yeah and they did they did not want to see him have a debilitating brain injury I would like to see though maybe if we could get like some maybe some stickers on the back of helmets for the Broncos to see who went to his party and not see if there was a crossover like whether it was there anyone who didn't go to his party that was dapping him up that would be interesting I would imagine that his offense was the ones that went to his birthday parties defense

were probably like you'll fuck you yeah but yeah he had he got like very concussed that was scary it was he was okay afterwards after he came to for a little bit he had one of those hematomas on his head yeah he also had just so much turf in his helmet yeah it was like a the nano bubble that was from like a burst blood vessel but he was on the sidelines for the rest of the game so I guess he was like it wasn't an immediate like severe health concern yeah it'd be interesting if he came back and you know how like sometimes people have a stroke and they're able to like play the piano all of a sudden like what if Russell Wilson after this concussion was just cool yeah and everybody liked him spoke Spanish yeah yeah senior unlimited yeah yeah Broncos country I don't know how to say

yeah there we go and everyone's like yeah fuck yeah Russ you're the man yeah like what if he was actually like a good dude like just down to chill on the poker night at his house yeah hung with the boys he's now it's actually played well my advice to Russell Wilson be like you should change your entire personality right now yeah this is this is the chance that you have to do like a hard reset on your entire new guy and just like go back laugh at all the shit that you used to be like oh man I was a dork I can't believe I did wait I said Broncos country let's ride yeah do that even if you don't actually have a personality you should act like you just got born again and you're a brand new person who's cool now yeah you're like I'm that was Russell I'm rusty yeah rusty rusty

Wilson is good I would hang out with rusty yeah go for ride his pickup truck I would play for yeah yeah for your vice Russell all right so chief defense I'm a little your suspect but that's every year yeah every year the chief defense like hey your suspect but then they're just like hey maybe Chris Jones will just wreck everyone shit in the playoffs will be good yeah and also they can be suspect as long as they have Patrick Mahomes correct who's going to go out there just drill everybody correct oh again like I would I would probably now I'm talking myself and I would probably kill somebody yeah to get Patrick multiple people yeah just to be like every Sunday like oh Patrick your life is so much better so much better so much better they know

it to yeah the chief defense know it I I've tweeted that before and they they know it they've suffered through a lot of bad quarterbacks and they're like we know how good this is Panthers 30 Seahawks 24 I mean the turf the dog like I love I think the Panthers might make the playoffs I think the Seahawks didn't really love turf the dog that I don't know because I the pant I'm do I still have another coach of the year yeah Steve Wilkes yeah I mean he gets my interim coach of the year excuse me interim coach coach he the Panthers I don't think people realize it because the NFC South is so bad and we spent a lot of energy talking about the Falcons rightfully so at the beginning of the year the Panthers might make the playoffs yeah so I ran the scenario last Monday

while that that abomination of a game between the Saints and the Bucks was going on I went through the entire playoff machine there's a scenario where every team in the NFC South finishes at 6 and 11 and the Panthers make the playoffs at 6 11 that is what I'm rooting for that is absolutely what I'm rooting for awesome I just want people to realize the Panthers might make the playoffs because next week the Bucks played the Bengals yeah which I would assume whose line is anyway Bucks first Bengals is it I think it's at home it's Tampa at home so I'm gonna say Bengals minus three one and a half three and a half wow and then we have Panthers at home against the Steelers that must be Panthers pick a minus two and a half two so you have a Panthers game where

their favorite versus Bucks their underdog obviously that's not how it works but let's just say both favorites win they're tied yeah they're both six and eight they're tied and the Panthers beat the Bucks earlier this year they play again week 17 if they beat them like the Panthers might make the playoffs that would be Matt rule like I does Nebraska fire Matt rule right away they hire Steve Wilkes I think yeah I think what happened is like wait what your team your former team made the playoffs Steve Wilkes I think has earned the head coaching job I think what he's done like native which is hard to come by you keep him around this should be his job if he doesn't get the job get him on a plane to Lincoln and immediately fire Matt rule and bring Steve

Wilkes in there yes I told you the Panthers are my bounce back team next year I might have been a little too late on them yeah it might be the bounce back team this year yeah so weird little stat here the Seahawks are seven and two against every team that's not in the abysmal NFC South they're 0 and 4 against the NFC South oh so that's just their kryptonite they can't play against and it's so bad the Panthers it's week 14 that was their first road win every other team in the NFL had had a road win so far they finally got a road win and they I mean they dominated them they ran the ball down their throat they absolutely punished them 223 yards Sam Darnold looked like decent he looked pretty good and the Seahawks I without Kenneth Walker like Gino was kind of running

for his life couple picks that hurt them put him in that hole Gino didn't look great today yeah they don't I mean the turf the dog you told me turf the dog and I was like I love the Panthers I love the pan it was the fact the only person that was playing for turf out there was DK yeah and that was that was apparent I texted him before the game I was like you're gonna get a touchdown for the dog he wrote me back he said he said yeah no doubt I love that dog played hard for him but everybody else didn't just it was like it didn't even matter to them and their captain went out there at the start of the game they had like the 12 man flag that they carry out on the field they put turf's collar around the flag and took him out on the field like this this is something

lose a dead dog you can't lose a dead dog you can't lose it absolutely not it was cannot his his death is in vain now I'm it is it actually is like it's now sad because you lost your dead dog game it's tough that's that is and and that you should know that going in when you honor a dog a dead dog for a game you better win it the team's got no heart I'm out on the Seahawks after this yeah well this is the curse of turf there I'm telling you like they're not gonna make the playoffs because they lost the dead dog game it does feel like they're they're running out they have lost three or four the one win being that Rams game last week where they came back in the last seconds to win the game and now they play the 49ers on Thursday night football and if

they lose this it's like oh it's kind of I they're fading at the wrong time it's like what let the Lions be in Lions have the head to head that's big yeah Lions have the head to head but yeah I watch out for the Panthers watch out for the Panthers the defense is really good it's funny watching Sam Donald run because you know how we were talking to I think it was like last year where the announcers when they're struggling to find something positive to say about Derek Carr they're like look what tremendous balance he runs right when he's running with football Sam Donald has the opposite of that absolutely Sam Donald's like teetering to either side with every single step that he takes yeah when he's right and he's got that big head that's just like bouncing

off each shoulder as he runs he's also when he's running he had a long run today he always has a feel when he starts to run where he's like am I doing this am I doing this and he'll be like 20 yards down the field he's like wait I am doing this yeah I can do this like a boy can fly like I'm doing it yeah yeah he doesn't trust himself as a runner he does not at all but he's like he's like shockingly effective because I think he's deceptively slow yes yes yeah he's slower than he looks yeah people are like trying to tackle in front of him in racing because like wait you're supposed to be fast yeah it's like a it's like a knuckleball yeah okay last up it is the row back game of the week go to rowback.com I'm wearing all row back right now I love row back row back has

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block Brock slings it and they showed that's that graphic at the start of the game comparing Brock Purdy coming out in the draft to Tom Brady when he came out in the draft yep and had all their like weaknesses and where they went in the draft and it was meant to compare the two which I thought was fairly disrespectful to Brock Purdy because he is way better than Tom Brady right now well Tom Brady stinks right now he brought out it be honest with him if you if you were to take one quarterback right now for the rest of the season if you're putting together like a stretch run yeah would you rather have Brock Purdy or Tom Brady right now I don't think Tom Brady is having any fun I also just want to say right now it's way too early to be doing the what team is

Tom Brady gonna play for next year it's dominating the conversation Hank are you getting nervous because there's been a lot of talk about the Niners I heard the Jets rumors today no no Jets rumors what was the other team the Patriots yeah but then there was another team too it was the Niners Patriots box the Patriots are no one okay all right his arms still strong it's just his Raiders remember there was a talk of him going to the Raiders because Josh McDaniels that whole connection out there actually like if I'm Tom Brady I'm newly single Vegas baby why not with the Panthers Vegas you think he wants to move to Charlotte I don't know I just he's a big banking guy what were you say Billy in quarterbacks first starts against Brady they were 0 and 6 until today

with Brock Purdy yes God's first win I think Brock Purdy six games well there's only six quarterbacks starting their first game ever yeah it's Brock and also the craziest that was the fact that this was only the second time the Tom Brady's ever played in San Francisco that made no sense to me it was I think it was like the perfect lineup of his ACL year and also maybe his suspension whatever it was the fact he's only played twice in San Francisco is wild but the craziest part is I think Brock Purdy has like the a better starting story than Brady ever had as Mr. Relevant so if he were to like have some insane career it would totally wipe Tom Brady's narrative off the history we have Brock Purdy won like seven Super Bowls being Mr. Relevant like

that is the greatest underdog story I don't think we can call him Mr. Relevant I think he's Mr. Relevant I think he made being irrelevant relevant but the whole $1.99 thing like not as cool yeah not as cool as Mr. Relevant Brock Purdy goes off yeah Tom Brady had a great quote today he said every week you have the opportunity to kick ass or get your ass kicked whoa obviously we were on the wrong end today it was it was a butt whooping it was a butt whooping did you see also Jake your favorite wild stat Tom Brady's in his 23rd year in the NFL Brock Purdy is 22 years old wild he's younger than me yeah that's why he's born in 1999 it's wild it's wild Brock Purdy is what year were you born his birthday is late December oh no he's about to be 24 he's 11 months young

wow Brock Purdy is I could have been you Billy you could have been beating Tom Brady today think about now oh my god wow well could have been wow I think Brock Purdy is like legitimately good player for the Niners I think he fits in what they do but then again like I feel like Kyle Shanahan could take anybody and be like okay you're playing any position on this team and he can make it work I also watched a lot of Brock Purdy in college football I do think there will be a market correction of Brock Purdy coming up what's crazy is like he wasn't that great of a college quarterback no and the fact that he's doing he's playing this well at the NFL level is it's not he doesn't really have any like elite skills he's not the tallest guy he doesn't have like a hose of an

arm but he makes plays if I make you're missing out on the it fact yeah he's got a great name so yeah Brock Purdy I I want everyone to just be okay with when the market does correct on me as a bad game we don't we don't bail on Brock Purdy I'm not gonna bail on him also Debo carded off but ruled the high ankle sprain so says like six four to six weeks the playoffs start in five weeks that that's a godsend that they potentially could still have Debo for the playoffs yeah that to me that surpasses the Trevor Lawrence injury from last week yeah of most bionic ankle because when he got rolled up on I was like okay he's he's out forever thank God he got paid that's what I first thought yes and to have him back in five weeks that's as good as you could hope for yeah yeah and the

Niners are just rolling their defense is flying there so they're Ryan's gonna get a job that was the that's the fun Schefter Rappaport like agent you know sends you a text that you have to tweet out saying just I woke up this morning it was like there's there's a belief that Tamiko Ryan will get a head coaching job that'll be the third year in a row that Kyle Shanahan's lost to a coordinator so yeah okay yeah yeah I mean we I hope he does he's a very good defensive no that's why are we talking about it right now that's what Adam Schefter woke up thinking about today he was just like just by the way yeah there's a strong belief in the 49ers organization that he's in line to become a head coach and yeah he does a lot of he does PR yeah that's what chef that's how he

gets the scoops you got to trade you got trade favors sometimes by the way we're in we're in Schefter Christmas present watch that's right yeah the chocolates right yeah we don't know what it could be it could be a tie he better send a tie before too I'll switch over to be in a rap sheet guy like that wow that's gonna be yeah rap war also had a tweet that was like Odell Beckham who's made a lot of headlines for his free agency tour like there's a belief he might not be able to play it's like who do you think did the a lot of headlines yeah we're all trying to find the guy who did this now Jerry Jones just said today that they're they're not out of the Odell Beckham sweepstakes and he said put an exclamation point on that whoa so you know Jerry gets like he was

probably drunk when he said it had a couple shots of Johnny Walker and I mean he was like you know what I need to Jerry's old Jerry's got to make a headline I think he's just watch watch this he's I actually think that Odell Beckham is just waiting for the Giants to not be in the playoffs then be like alright I'm going to the Cowboys probably why would he go to the Giants I would make notice he would be so mad I don't know yeah I don't know he would hate it did you guys see Brady sign the football that the 49ers player intercepted whoa he went up to him post game said he's been watching since he was two years old that takes some balls to ask Tom Brady to do that yeah I respect after a 35-7 just thrashing sportsmanship he really doesn't look like he's

having fun no did he looks miserable did he hurt his hand today yeah he did so yeah that's bad timing and have a broken hand to have a broken right hand right after you get divorced yeah that's tough he also well he's got Alex Guerrero that's true he also like he was in the game with a hurt hand 35-7 and I was thinking like why is he in this game and then it's all on me like the Bucks offense kind of needs the reps yeah they're that bad like they might need to like run through some shit yeah that's how bad they're just a bad football team Mike Evans it looks like he's aged five years in this one year yeah Leonard Burnett actually there was he made some plays out there that look pretty like old-school playoff Lenny type things but we talked about this game

on Friday like the 49ers just on a pure team like first team they're so much faster yeah the Bucks are just slow and the 49ers are fast yeah that's what happened today and the offensive line was humming for the 49ers Christian McCaffrey looked awesome yeah they're running their running game is just beautiful it's just beautiful football to watch when it's when it's working you've got you've got kiddle laying people out you've got juice check and motion hitting people on weird angles from blocks blocking guys that are like 40-50 pounds heavier than them but hitting them at the exact right angle to take them out of the play it is actually it is it's some sexy football when that 49ers run game is working I have a question for you and we'll wrap this up and go to football

guy the week and then wrap up the show would you say it's would you put your life on the line on one of the or two of these six teams making the Super Bowl Kansas City Chiefs the Buffalo Bills Cincinnati Bengals San Francisco 49ers Philadelphia Eagles Dallas Cowboys it feels like we're at the point in life online yep that those six teams we're gonna get our Super Bowl out of those six teams yeah I don't know what like what would be the case for I guess the lines could get hot the only the only case the only other team that I would make a case for is the Baltimore Ravens defense it'd be a case for the Baltimore Ravens defense but I feel like the Lamar Jackson health thing is like a great quarterback like that if it's a knee that's only

a few weeks he might not be a hundred percent when he gets back in agreed I'm just saying that's the only team that could kill us yeah the Ravens maybe it's funny because when now now you've got me agreeing to like put my life on the line I'm also I'll match okay which is which is also we're tossing in death to our Vikings bet right yeah we're adding we're adding not only we're gonna get a tattoo and then die yeah if the Vikings make this and it's not like we're not saying anything crazy because those are the they're not the they're not the top three seeds in in both leagues but I think those are the three teams that like I close my eyes I'm like yeah I could see any one of those six teams making a run to the Super Bowl what were they again in the NFC you've got the

Eagles you've got the Niners and the Cowboys Cowboys yeah and then in the NFC it's the Bengals the Bills in the in the Chiefs that's it it sounds like those are that's our Super Bowls coming from there I feel like if the Bucks Megan it's no no no no no no have you watched the Bucks I understand but no he stinks no I don't even want I'm not even gonna say Tom Brady sinks the Bucks that's fine it's just Tom Brady the Bucks deserves their respect but Tom Brady's on a bad football team and he's also part of it but he's also bad right now like Tom Brady is bad the offensive line is so bad he doesn't trust any of it we're gonna say Hank Hank go ahead my voice is no no come on say it say it fact of fiction he's got more Super Bowls than all the other

quarterbacks you just name that's a fact but also he's 46 years old yeah and he was 44 when he won a Super Bowl yeah but after fiction you get you get old at some point like that people are not I feel like I'm going crazy because we did the is this the last year for Tom Brady thing when he was like 38 and like 37 which is when most quarterbacks start going downhill he's 46 it's okay it's fine he's making the playoffs good it's a part of life he's getting older has he made the playoffs yeah he's no but I think he's an old guy pretty good indicator of being good what is it makes it at seven and ten plus the playoffs right okay that's the playoffs well so that is that factor no it's not the plan that is a fact playoffs is the playoffs and then he's gonna get

to play probably the Cowboys who he's never lost to in the first game wow so that no no no oh yeah the Cowboys going to the Tampa yeah yeah Cowboys would go to Tampa Tom Brady has never lost to Dallas Cowboys now I'm starting to talk myself into Tom Brady fact fact and then it's like I've been talking to the Philadelphia no you'd go to Philadelphia well I guess yeah if you have a upset yeah because the commanders would beat the Vikings in the opening round so then so now he just has to win one game on the road or one game against the Eagles beats the Vikings revenge what a way to go all right let's do football guy the week wait all guy the week Hank do you still want Tom Brady in New England battery really yeah I mean why wouldn't you because he's not good

anymore I I don't I don't think he's not good I think his offensive line is so bad that that's like the one thing that Tom Brady like he can't move like he used to have like mobility he doesn't have that same mobility he doesn't have trust in his offensive line I think his mind and his it's not like Peyton Manning you know I mean like sure he's mentally sharp no Peyton Manning was like remember Peyton Manning's last year you're like you get maybe one quarter out of Peyton Manning he'll throw like two good balls and then his arm is shot yeah I don't think Tom Brady's arm is shot no but I think that he's trusting in his arm too much at this point where it's not as good as it was it's not shot it's still decent but he's trying to make throws that you have to have like

the perfect Tom Brady arm old to make hasn't learned how to adjust I think he also just is scared that he's gonna get crumpled in half on every that's probably true also but I don't know I've been watching a lot of Tom Brady recently and he just he doesn't look good he's not wearing a glove though like talking about Peyton like his body is still much better yes yes no Peyton was shot he's like not throwing like those his body was shot those ducks yeah do you think his arm strength is still there do you think he was using Giselle for the HGH connection like Peyton Manning was using his wife do you think that his arm troubles are because he's having to use it more since he's been divorced hmm it's a worth asking the question yeah it is all right football guys of the week so

congratulations to reoccurring debt guest Max Duggan for yes football guy of the week didn't win the Heisman finish second and I did okay yeah yeah so he's our Heisman until Kale Williams comes on the show so he won something this week yeah he's hey guess what he's still playing yeah Kale wasn't I bet you Kale would came up that Heisman yeah would he not yeah definitely not our first nominee this week is sounded good though I know it yeah but but definitely definitely not our first nominee for this week is Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield had the game winning drive and then he once again used to move that he used a couple weeks ago which is headbutting guys on the sideline without a helmet on yeah but we think that he might have padding underneath yeah yeah

oh yeah we taped yeah I might be my theory is that he's got padding underneath his little yeah so that's why he's doing it I think he's got two headbands that he wears yeah same principle hmm our second nominee is Tom Brady we talked about this quote earlier every week you have the opportunity kick ass or get your ass kicked obviously we're on the wrong end today just great football guy quote yep I mean okay it's a good it's a good quote I don't know if I'd put him in football guy of the week it was a little slim congratulations for for getting your your asshole 49ers I thought I said yeah I definitely sent you a text with one our third is Cody March this guy so this guy lost his two front teeth his sophomore year of college around and he hasn't

gone replaced and you know he's a number one draft pick coming up offensive tackle from North Dakota State University you guys got to see these pictures the evolution of it um also shout out Mike Leach who's in the office always was a football he's in the hospital uh what do you say you said in the office yeah he's in the hospital it's okay he's okay featured very scary yeah yeah but take take a look at this much guy basically he there's this evolution of a freshman tight end who's six four and 234 pounds who's evolved into his offense this six six offensive tackle who's over 300 pounds has a total transformation no teeth super long hair huge beard he looks awesome he looks like a he looks like a game of thrones or like the guy from Braveheart

his best friend from Braveheart that he was yeah he started off throwing rocks at each other for games yeah I did I sent you one Billy a throwback the it's a picture of a guy in a white tuxedo football coach and the story is this coach Fred Carter Jr he was the defensive coordinator for Mansfield the 1991 triple a state champions and later on became the head coach but for this particular season he promises top-ranked defense if they made it to the state championship he would wear a tuxedo they put together a one-law season arrived in New Orleans for the state championship game being the stand-up guy that he was he wore the white tuxedo unfortunately they went down 29 to six at halftime and in the locker room at halftime he ripped off his tuxedo and they ended up

winning the game 36 29 shut him out in the second half nice big-time football guy big-time football guy all right so go vote for it yeah and our last guy is a high school football coach who said to those who text and DM me with your critical evaluations on my decisions for the program which I was put in place to lead you'll not get a response however the address to see your town high school is 167 Franklin Drive this guy basically gave everyone his address in order to say if you have something to say come basically fight me in my office I like it mm-hmm I like it come come to talk to me about it yeah those are our football guys of the week nice all right we can vote on it all right pft you got one last ad then we'll do who's back the week and finish

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a really even lose because you didn't really play we came in he came in but like kind of imagine losing to Morocco yikes not my messy he'll have a chance to finish with me although couldn't do Morocco is going for the entire Iberian Peninsula sweep they've beaten Spain Portugal they're going for France next no is it are they playing the Moors it's like the more they're playing France it's the more invasion all over again RG plays Croatia they play Croatia yeah which is European Chile they just steal all the coastline from yes you guys know I'm a huge soccer guy but I was thinking that PK's are the dumbest thing of all time to decide a World Cup match oh you're one of those you should make them if

you do get an opportunity to shoot a P K one that that's an in-game PK much different that ball it still hasn't landed yet they gotta just put the net at that half court and do it that way okay just every 30 minutes bring the net closer well I was saying I was saying that they should do it so every five minutes in extra time you take a player off I like that it ends up being like one verse one I like the idea of just making the field tiny yeah it's not a bad coming in yeah like 160th minute you're playing like you know 30 feet yeah I like that okay but yeah Harry Kane with an all-time bad penalty really bad there there's an all granted that's six yards too far for his range yes all time all time all

time reaction video from a British crowd of them watching that it's all time sound of just disappointment anger yeah everyone like dies falls down I'm sure they'll handle it well it's it's they're used to it's fantastic and also avatars back what's what's worse losing a dead dog game or losing a dead Queen World Cup dead dog probably dead dog yeah that's it okay PFT year who's back my who's back of the week is Alexandra Vechkin empty netters and the controversy that goes along with so OV now has 797 career goals that's three goals shy of 800 obviously five goals shy of passing Gordy how for second on the all-time goal list but people are getting mad at OV because he's he scores a shitload of empty

net goals right he scored a bunch last year I think he set the all-time record for a season last year I think you had like nine or ten empty netters and this year he's probably on pace to do that again they just listen maybe maybe beat the caps and then he won't have empty net opportunities but it's just it's playing its plumbers exactly yeah I mean if OV got to play against the goalies that Gordy how was playing against he'd have like 6,000 goals easily minimum but yeah OV's bag it's just it's just fun when you have a team that's not really that fun to root for but you've got a milestone it makes it better so now I'm just I'm purely an Alex Ovechkin fan for the next like two seasons I like it until

he until he sets that milestone I like it alright my who's back is Bowl season this week it's starting best season of the year I fucking love bowls Bahamas Bowl on Friday afternoon just like the first bowl game it's just something about it just clicks in my brains like I'm gonna watch every fucking one of these bowl games I love the ones that sneak up on you in the afternoon and that will happen to you for Miami of Ohio and UAB Bahamas Bowl 1130 on Friday yeah that one definitely sneaks up sneak up on you for sure Bowl season this year we're finally in Bowl week or the start of Bowl season and then like yeah we have our Arizona Bowl December 30th get ready Barstool TV check it out Ohio vs. Wyoming Parker Titsworth

shout out he's getting me a jersey yeah Billy so my who's back is just crazy college football fans so apparently with the Heisman campaigns running up someone bought a bunch of Twitter bots to tear down Stetson Bennett and sort of pump up Heddon Hooker on the run up to the Heisman campaign someone basically you know this was the quote that was put in a bunch of different tweeters little bots so Stetson Bennett isn't even the best player on his own team maybe not even close Heddon Hooker transformed our entire team and this was just this message was just from multiple different body counts just spammed and was found I know PFT founded a similar type situation with Dan Snyder there's a tweet I'll say it

till I'm blue in the face Dan Snyder is doing what needs to be done in the NFL is the this is the year bow nicks our course for Heisman yeah but I don't know who's like buying these bot accounts to make them spread this these messages so who's got to gain a little behind the scenes on this one because I read Billy's blog on it when he put it out last like Thursday night Friday morning and I was reading the blog and as I get through maybe the second paragraph I'm like wait a second Billy Billy completely telegraph to us what he was going to be doing with his blogs this seems like it's being written by a bot and the entire blog well you added in your own color to it but they're like five paragraphs that it was

just so obvious that an artificial intelligence script wrote that blog it was a good blog I mean right it was obvious from the get go that you had you had a robot write it for you well I mean writing a blog about bots using a bot oh it was a bit it was a bit yeah so it was a deep bit it was a bit yeah nice bit it's a good bit okay Jake wrap wrap us up my who's back is Patty the baddie yeah secured a big win out in Las Vegas over Jared Gordon I was there unanimous decision yeah one it easily he said unanimous so he was the one in the fight so who are we gonna trust unanimous that means like everybody agrees yes everyone on the internet agrees it was great for for our guy Patty the baddie work

to be done but when is a win you got you got a dub yeah simple as that he got the dub he got the dub unanimous unanimous unanimous and wait does people that score those fights they're professional judges yes okay I was sitting next to Joe Musgrove and I did ask him if he had anything on his ears he said no okay from from the from the Padres yeah he was fucking very shining all over his big dude big fucking dude okay numbers 17 Parker Titsworth 81 Bethel Johnson have you ever gotten this I can't hear your voices have you gotten it can you give me a number please 81 no can you give me 18 no I want a number Sebastian give me a number so no I 17 pft guy give me a real number come on Sebastian

us 45 thank you a number what five five I'll take five thank you Hank I wanted a number Max 20 also watch the behind the scenes of the Paddy fight Thursday oh yes PMTV Max is with me you ready 81 you said you're never gonna remember we have back to back so many people ask me if Hank ever got it oh so close really close 84 damn sorry you're so close I'm not for second or not tied there by itself in second place who what is 84 wow that's right three numbers at nine this is now at eight Hank Hank to what number did you take 81 he was so close to use three off this one doesn't count I just want to see it doesn't count so I'm just curious oh 80 you're so close oh my god thank you're so close you're getting

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