Pardon My Take - NFL Week 16, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Beat The Eagles, The Chiefs Are Going To Win It All, College Football Playoffs And More

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

NFL Week 16 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes of the week (00:00:00-00:09:36). We then recap every game from Sunday Chiefs 27, Texans 19 (00:09:36-00:17:15) Ravens 34, Steelers 17 (00:17:15-00:25:11) Commanders 36, Eagles 33 (00:25:11-00:46:20) Bengals 24, Browns 6 (00:46:20-00:54:59) Lions 34, Bears 17 (00:54:59-01:02:15) Colts 38, Titans 30 (01:02:15-01:10:35) Rams 19, Jets 9 (01:10:35-01:17:15) Cowboys 26, Buccaneers 24 (01:17:15-01:24:05) Panthers 36, Cardinals 30 (01:24:05-01:32:56) Falcons 34, Giants 7 (01:32:56-01:39:25) Dolphins 29, Niners 17 (01:39:25-01:50:47) Vikings 27, Seahawks 24 (01:50:47-01:56:38) Bills 24, Patriots 21 (01:56:38-02:00:51) Raiders 19, Jaguars 14 (02:00:51-02:05:20) We then talk College Football Playoffs (02:05:20-02:21:18) and finish with who's back of the week (02:21:18-02:33:10)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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app and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers. Get 150 and bonus bets. If your bet wins when you bet just five bucks, happy holidays from draft Kings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 23rd week 16 They're not gonna get a stumble We start in Kansas City where Patrick Swayze Mahomes said pain don't hurt as he bounced off Texan defenders for a first half score on a bum ankle. Xavier we are not worthy we're scum we suck was the opposite of that as he said game on Garth as the Chiefs come down the home stretch of the season.

The Texans fought hard but CJ can't read cloud coverage through two picks spoiling the upset bid as Kareem Bergen Fish and Hunt Club said, Murder? What murder? As the Chiefs continue killing their competition. Chiefs 27, Texans 19. We go over to Baltimore where Najee I see Harris I see France I dumped a log of Shitsburg in my underpants, had a costly fumble and Ben hooked on Skronix gave Russell Wilson

some very difficult reads mixing up his L's and W's. The Ravens-Titan touchdown duel was the answer to the question of what Air Force Base is closest to MNT Bank Stadium likely Andrews. Derek Henry VIII took the Steelers for a pride while TJ turned down for what? Got outplayed by Lil John Harbaugh, seeing the ball downfield giving shot shot shot shot shot shots to everybody! And let us be the first to wish you all a very Lamari Christmas as the Ravens roll Baltimore 34, Pittsburgh 17.

Over to Sunday in Indianapolis where Jonathan Taylor Swift coming off a game where he was called the anti-hero decided to shake it off and tell the haters look what you made me do as he ran to all the blank spaces on Sunday a massive 218 yards on the ground at three touchdowns Rudolph the backup QB made some very shitty throws remember her when Miles Garrett assaulted him? I would even say he blows. CULT's 38, TITAN's 30. To Carolina where we say, Murray Christmas to all and to all of Shug night as the card's playoff chances are on death row in this matchup of the two shortest QBs. Chuba Indian in the Hubbard has turned into a real young adult running

for two touchdowns and a game-winning score. Dave Panama Canalis says it's not so easy to travel from west to east as the Panthers get their fourth win on the season. The Panthers 36, the Cardinals 30. We head now to DC where Max was on scene for the Eagles and Commanders. We head to land over Maryland where Jalen got hurt and was replaced by Kenny Let's Just Kick It, who did a great job of leading field goal drives all game long. Hey Brayden, turn in your man card for being a pussy who couldn't kick the ball into the end zone one time today and allowed the Commanders to start at the 40 on every fucking possession with a

chance to win the game late. Devante Smithy Elliott said is it third down? Let me work it. Put my hands up. Drop it in reverse. Balls. Your Smicky wicky man. Balls. Your Smicky wicky man. Yeah.'s 36, Eagle's 33. Thanks Max. We now head to the Meadowlands where Memes was there for a great game between the Jets and the Rams. It met Life Stadium, the Jets tried to breeze deck the halls with boughs of holly but turned into the nightmare before Christmas for Jets super fan Fireman Ed as he wasn't shown on

the Jets Jumbotron not one time. Ikeye ran, Ikeye ran so far away, Ikeye ran, Ikeye ran all night a day just to get away for 122 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Higby said I'm pouring honey on you goat as he walked into the end zone for a go head score. Joshua Playbord Cardy said he wasn't going outside today to seal the Rams victory with a field goal with a field goal. Rams 19, Jets 9. Thanks memes. In Chicago where Bears fans just want to be put in their McCaskets and go to die, the

Lions decided to clown them one last time. Hey Teej, remember that song you just said? I remember that song, boom. Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, everybody. As it was shots of Jamison as Williams scored an 80 yard touchdown and Bears fans want a shot to the head. Talking suicide! In the third quarter Jared Goff goes back to pass and FUMBLE!

Just kidding, he did a fake fumble because Ben Johnson has the bag deeper than the Mariana Trench, some place I'd like to be right now. The Lions 34, the Bears 17. To all our listeners, lock the door, get the lotion out, and get nice and comfortable. Because it's Men's Sea Time. As the Vikings head out west to Seattle, Randy Jackson Smith Najibba said that's going to be a G-No for me dog as he scored to tighten the game before halftime. Justin Timberlake Jefferson probably going to be popping a few bottles of Patron, vacationing in the Samptons with Donald stacking up first downs reminding fans at

home and Long Island police officers that the yellow line is not official. The Vikings 27, the Seahawks 24. We finish in Western New York where Hank is on the scene for the Bills and Patriots or the Patriots in the Patriots and whoa in Buffalo it was Draco season with the book Bag May who started the scoring early with a touchdown to every kiss begins with K Sean Booty. Nice. James double dog dog cookie scored twice and Teron Burgundy Johnson had a very important announcement and he needs all of you to stop what you're doing at once and listen.

Fumble! Recovery touchdown! And no one circles the wagons like a buffalo bills! 24, Patriots 21. anyone. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's DTR, we'll make your PP hard, cause you'll never see any TDs. Come on Cincy, you're looking frisky. Please don't jerk around PMT like you were mancy. The Bengals 24, the Browns 6, and that is fastest two minutes for week 16 in the NFL.

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Cowboys-Coopa Rush might be... is Coopa Rush a franchise quarterback? Are the Cowboys better with Coopa Rush? I don't know, Mike McCarthy's saving his job right before Christmas. So we got a lot of ball to talk about, boys. We had Saturday football. Yep. Hank, did you watch it? Did you see it? Yeah, sure did. We had Saturday football yep Hank did you watch it did you see it we had Saturday football we got a Sunday football it's just awesome that finally we get football on Saturdays now yeah we finally get it so and we're gonna talk a little college football because reminder we do not have

a show on Wednesdays Christmas Day we'll be back on Friday that's gonna be our schedule for the next two weeks also have an hour long doc on Thursday though on YouTube okay a little little little I go That's huge. That's huge. So yeah it will be Monday Friday for the next two weeks during the holidays but let's get into it. Saturday football, Chiefs 27, Texans 19, the Kansas City Chiefs are going to do it again. They're going to win the Super Bowl. They're 14 and 1 and everything is rounding into shape exactly as we expected and exactly as they always plan. Xavier Worthy is getting target. Yeah I think he had 14 touches. Hollywood Brown is back. Yeah the offense looks legitimately

good now. Yeah their defense is still like is you know the secondary is not great but they still make big time plays in the fourth quarter. It just felt like they needed, whenever they need a sack or pressure that second half, they were all over CJ Stroud and they're going to do it. I just, it's crazy, but they're rounding into form. Between Hollywood Brown, Xavier worthy, Deandre Hopkins, Travis Kelsey, Gray, it's like they can go anywhere they want with the ball. Yeah. At any point point they can they can beat you in whatever way they want to at that given point This they just have so many options right now, and they're looking good and the games get winning is getting boring for Patrick Bohome yeah, who's yawning on the sidelines? Yeah, they still can't block for Patrick Holmes, but it doesn't matter Yeah, because he his ankle is not hurt. He ran for 15 yard touchdown in the first half

You're like oh this guy's not hurt at all He said that his plan was to not run and then he got in the game. He's like fucking I'm gonna run Yeah, because he just I think his body I think he's got a freak body that just can be contorted in all different directions and he'll be fine Yeah, he bounces back. He's Wolverine. This is now their 14th win this season without scoring 30 points That is now an official NFL record. Yes second place The team they passed was the Frankfurt Yellow Jackets. Oh in 1925 led by punk Berryman. Yeah punk Berryman punk Berryman

They had 13 wins without scoring three points the crazier stat with the no no game over 30 it's 31 points because they did score 30 I think against the Panthers but the teams that have not scored 31 points this season in a game are the Kansas City Chiefs 14 and 1 the New York Giants 2 and 13 the Las Vegas Raiders 3 and 12 and the New England Patriots 3 and 12 that's the company yep that's where you're in yeah the stat was most wins with 30 or fewer points. They're just doing stuff just for fun it's not even like I mean that that that's a stat like the Chiefs don't have to score 30 points they're proving that

they can do whatever they want and yeah I really do like I watched that game I was like yeah this is their rounding into form exactly like like Xavier Worthy just like Rashid Rice last year the beginning of the year You know, he had that first game where he has that electric touchdown everyone's like how could you let Xavier worthy? fall to the Chiefs and then he has a stretch where he didn't look that great and they didn't really feature him much and he would get maybe one or two catches a game and Yesterday it was 11 targets and it was I know he didn't have like crazy eye popping numbers, but he had seven catches. He had another three rushes. He had a touchdown.

They're just rounding into form and they've got, they've got everything cooking. So I feel like they're practicing getting him the ball a lot right now because they're, they might dial back on that a little bit in the playoffs, but they'll go to him a few times a game and they want to know that he's ready when it happens and he'll be ready and the Chiefs. Yeah. Congrats to the Chiefs. Congrats to the Chiefs. Three Pete. As for the Texans, that game sucked a lot for them. Not only did they lose, but Tank Del, horrific injury. That was brutal, brutal, brutal, especially because he was just felt like he was rounding in a form after his season ending injury last year. They also lost Jimmy Ward and Shaq Mason and their offense just, it continues like CJ Stroud struggled and

uh, Joe Mixon couldn't get running. And I just, I don't have any, any hopes for the Texans to make any type of impact on the AFC playoffs. No, that was a tough, tough loss when tank down went down But we should say Tough motherfucker. Yeah, he held on to the ball after getting his kneecap dislocated Yes, and you could tell it was serious and it happened as he was catching the ball simultaneously his knee gets bent to the side by some some friendly fire and He hangs on to it as he rolls over as he's calling the cart on the field unreal He's at the hospital now and he's going back to Houston.

So that's good. Yeah, that is good. But it's going to be a long, very long recovery. Yeah. It also just as a side note, Zach Miller did catch it because that did happen. Remember when he basically went sideways and like you hear the news right away. Tankdale has to go to the hospital. You're like, oh shit, that's I think that's because of artery and they got to make sure the emergency surgery So yeah, really really tough CJ Stroud was obviously shaken up by it. And yeah, I don't know

I don't know where like the Texans are in the playoffs. Yeah, and they have They now have they're down now down to just Nico Collins in terms of their weapons that they started the season with which sucks And yeah, I don't really know, I don't know, like their defense is still good, but not like elite. And yeah, there's just gonna be a bummer to watch because you're like, man, that season, everyone had hopes that they could be one of those dark horse Super Bowl teams

and it kind of just fell apart for them. And CJ Stroud has had a sophomore slump. It's like, I don't know what D'Amico is gonna do. Just tell him, reimagine yourself as being a run first team, just ground and pound. Yeah, but they can't even run the ball all the time. I don't like mixing wasn't able to run the ball in this game. I don't know what they're going to do, but it is a bummer. Yeah, total bummer. But yeah, the Chiefs are going to win three in a row. Does anyone feel differently? Like I don't want them to. I'm going to be rooting for the Bills to beat them. I think

they will. But I think they will but I Watch this game and I was just like yeah, everything's kind of just starting to click for them and it's yeah They're just gonna do it again. Yeah, we'll see you on Christmas. I was like, how did that happen? See you on Christmas Patty Mahomes 14 and one is crazy. I mean there I know that there's been a Lot of close calls, but still 14 14 14, it's hard to win in this league. And they're getting Harrison buck her back and healthy. He looked okay.

Why does he do the thing where he falls now? I don't know. Every kick. I don't know. It has something to do with his follow through. Yeah. Like making sure he gets enough like hip flexibility on it. I don't know.

Very bizarre. Very bizarre. Also the chiefs, the other part is their, their defense is starting to take the ball away, which I think I mentioned this stat a couple weeks ago where they were third to last in takeaways. They had 10 total through 14 weeks. They've had eight in the last two weeks. So it's all starting to work and it's all going to just, I don't really know what else to say. The Chiefs are going to win the Superbowl. Congrats to the Chiefs. Yeah, it's inevitable. Yeah.

And your fans, the fans can post the meme and be like, Oh man, this game is going to suck. Just kidding. We won. You guys will just figure out a way. You figure out a way. No matter what happens, there is a path for you and you will find that one path. It's going to happen.

It's going to happen. Uh, okay. The other Saturday game Ravens 34 Steelers 17. This was basically, I felt like it was a Freaky Friday situation where the Ravens and Steelers switched bodies because it felt like the Ravens were playing Mike Tomlin's Steelers football in that they were getting opportune, you know, turnovers. Lamar didn't play like out of his mind good and they just, you the Russ fumble basically changed the game they're going in 7-7 Russ is going in all he has to do is slide at the two-yard line instead tries to jump and be a hero fumbles and then

the Ravens turn around and go on a 98 yard drive and that was it. That was tough because I thought Russ was gonna score on that too. Yeah. He got in the open field and then yeah just unlucky unlucky play for Pittsburgh and then you couldn't do anything about Derek Henry. No I don't know what kind of angles Minka Fitzpatrick was taking against Derek Henry but they were the wrong ones. Yeah Derek Henry was just an absolute, he was a hammer and the Steelers were the nail on Saturday and it was, he had a hundred, what do you have 166 yards I believe 162 yards. He's the fifth player in NFL history to have

four 1500 rushing yard seasons Which I always feel like running stats like passing stats have gotten out of hand like running stats those count because yeah They used to just run the ball at time So it's edgar and James has four Walter Payton has four, Eric Dickerson has four, Barry Sanders has five. And I feel like we're seeing more of the good Derek and less of the bad Derek where he's

slow around the line of scrimmage and gets hit for a loss. Yeah. Cause that, that was the formula in Tennessee for a while. It's like, just keep feeding them. Eventually we'll figure out a way to break them on a long one. Uh, and then a lot of the times he just would have gains of like one yard, no yards minus one yard in Baltimore. It feels like they've figured out how to get them on the edge and get him even going downhill before he hits the line of scrimmage Yeah, and then you good luck tackling him if you don't take the perfect angle on him I feel like yeah, this is like the thing they were missing last year Yeah, it's it's it looks pretty good in Baltimore now the Steelers had some they're a little bit banged up in the secondary

Yeah, I was tough Joey Porter getting hurt early that didn't do him any favors and they are getting Pickens back. Yes. For the, for the Christmas day game. Yeah. Who he's their entire offense. If you listen to some of our friends, I mean it looks, it looks like they don't know how to pass the ball downfield without Pickens. Yeah. I mean that Russ picked to Marlon Humphrey, who's been incredible this year. Uh, that was also the game. It was rust didn't play. He had to play clean football. The Steelers had to go into that game doing what they usually do against the Ravens where they basically just trade field position, get a couple of fumbles where the Ravens put the ball on the ground, but the Steelers just

didn't recover it and get to the end of the game and find a way to make one more play and Russ just didn't keep him in that Spot where they could be like, oh look, we're just a TJ watt strip sack away from winning this game Yeah, stupid thing. I noticed after this game was over. It was like 30 minutes after the end of the game Kyle Van Noy he posts on on Twitter a picture of him just decleading Russell Wilson Mm-hmm, and he says like it's hunting season and it was such a sick picture That's got to be an underrated part about being an NFL athlete is like right after the pictures, you get to look at all these incredible pictures of you doing superhuman shit. Yeah, and be

like, Yep, that's me. Look at me. I'm sideways. Look how sick I love hitting the fuck out of Russell Wilson and make him look like a ragdoll. Yeah, me smashing some guy like just having a professional photographer follow you around. Instead of, like here at Barstool, the worse you look, those are the ones that get posted. Yeah, Hank just tries to find the worst pictures of you and post it over and over.

Yeah, it's just the- Or memes just memes us to death. You have a staff of people who are assigned to find the best looking pictures of you that they can get their hands on and amplify those to the masses. You looking like a Greek God in action. Yeah, I agree.

That's why I want to play in the NFL one day. We need to hire a personal photographer that just makes us look good. They'll be corrupted soon. Because we literally have the opposite. I mean, I don't know Shane with the YouTube thumbnails. Does he edit us to make us look ugly? It's crazy. We don't even look like ourselves half the time.

He has a filter where he can add 30 pounds to you. Why? Wouldn't it be, do you think it's, I feel like if you're scrolling you'd want us to not look like, we don't look well half the time. Yeah. I know that there's, listen, when we look bad naturally that's funny, but he distorts us to make us look weird. He's not gonna like this discourse. I mean does it truth. Is it not is it? Does he do that or no there's times I see I see myself. I'm like why do I look like that no I? Look like an alien yeah one point

I think he added 40 pounds to my body and he drew circles under my eyes. Yeah, like I have like a weird Yeah, a smile smile I've never done before. I think he just kind of, I think he's just like a sicko. Just like, Oh, it's not a bad one. He just likes to, to see us in the weirdest positions. But yeah, you're right PFT. We need to get a photographer. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. I don't even know. Yeah. Making the little yikes. We're both a bad bad pig. The skip a list thumbnail all time. Yeah Skip look, I think they look good to us. Thank you. I appreciate that By the way, the Steelers still can win out and win the AFC North so they

have the record It's verse common opponents. They have a better record verse common opponents So they control their own destiny now will they because they have to play the Chiefs in the Bengals But that wasn't for the AFC North. It was obviously makes it a little more difficult But they they absolutely still control their own destiny You know as crazy as this is gonna sound because the last two recaps we just did I kind of like the Steelers on Christmas Yeah, like I'm on Christmas. I do not like them in the playoffs I

also I have them in my Texans category of team that I'm not expecting to be in like the AFC Championship game. Yeah but I like them on Christmas. Yeah I do but it's also the Chiefs. Yeah that's true. And the Chiefs but it's Tomlin as a dog at home. Tomlin, dog at home, Christmas everybody in is going to be at the if you're not you're not anybody unless you're at that game in Pittsburgh. That's a fact. That's a fact. All right.

Anything else on this game? I wish these teams would just play all the time. It is fun. Although this was this is the rare one that wasn't close. It's a blowout. Yeah, Russell Wilson matchup didn't really help us because like I said, it was I was expecting this game to be close down the end and the Steelers be able to have a chance to win it. And Russ kind of ruined

that with his fumble and his pick six. The pick six was the big part of it. Yeah. Well, I mean the fumble was, they were going to go 14 seven. Yep. Yeah. Fumbles happened though. Fumbles do happen. Uh, okay. Sunday. So before we get to Sunday, shout out Scott Hanson. He did mention me and us for the witching hour, but also shout out Scott Hanson. He's now changed the tagline to seven hours of red zone football starts now. Yeah, he has apology that he issued on Saturday was great. First of all, it started out with a football in the camera. Yeah, letting you know who you're dealing with here. And then he took ownership. He said he wrestled with the concept of whether or not to say

commercial free football before he knew that there would be commercials. And I, I can only imagine what an internal struggle struggle that must have been for Scott Hanson. So we discussed that he apologized, which I appreciate it as a football fan. Yes. I think some people still know how business is done. The red zone is one of those entities. So thank you Scott for acknowledging it. Appreciate it. Can we maybe just lose the commercials? They put you in a bad position, Scott. They put them in a terrible position. They don't care about you, Scott. If they cared about you, they wouldn't have marched you out there with a gun to your head and made you say that. Yeah. It was, uh, it was very funny how serious you took it, which I, I liked it. He cares

that much. Yeah. I want him to take it extremely serious. Yeah, he lost sleep this week. That's a fact about the fact that people are like, you lied to us about commercial free football. Okay, so Sunday, Commander's 36, Eagles 33. Who would like to start? Actually, no, I want to start real quick. Okay, you can start. I'm going to start and then I'm want to start real quick. Okay, you can start

I'm gonna start and then I'm gonna kick it to you. Okay, I'm gonna start with just That the gorillas that was a cackle actually that was me You guys are hypocrites FSU Brando made a remix of that We still it's either it's either I love that clip. I love that clip. We still it's either it's either I love that clip and I'm not confident enough or some shit. We'll get to talk some shit. Oh, I just wanted to play the clip. It was funny. I got a funny clip. I get to rebuttal that. I got to rebuttal that. I liked that clip. What was that clip rebuttal what was Max laughing after they lost. No, probably after one of her five turnovers that we had yeah five to one turnover for the

Eagles today 50 go I mean max and pfp go ahead here's some analysis number one great hit by max he hit a plus 220 commanders money line is a lie money line bet that is just a lie max put in a money line bet on I Was pissed about the drop. I immediately said fuck This is the Falcons are gonna lose this game bet it and then cashed out within maybe 30 seconds So you keep saying that and I did not hit a bet Max made a great I lost I lost I made a great you made a great bet. No, you didn't make it. Yeah, you made it sick, dude You made a great sick. That's so cool of you. Keep going Okay, um face here's here's some stats

Jalen hurts to AJ Brown zero completion zero yards. Oh, can he pick it to AJ Brown eight completions? 97 yards a tutty and we can tack another 60 yards on there for passenger appearances that he drew So the chemistry I'd say is like best friend status Mm-hmm between can you pick it and AJ Brown? The Eagles pretty much wrapped up the division so that's good for them. Mm-hmm and Max it's tough to beat a team three times in a season So that could be good if we end up playing you again in the playoffs because we already beat you once so then now It's like oh, you don't have the pressure of having to beat the commanders three times

But as several smart people in this podcast have said You know everybody gets everybody gets injured everyone gets nicked up this time of year It's not like the Detroit Lions are the only team in the NFL that's injured Next man up. Mm-hmm got a play through it injuries can't be an excuse And so someone really smart said that so I wanted to make sure to amplify that we're a national sports podcast injuries happen. Next man up. I don't think the Kenny Pickett is the reason the Eagles lost that game. I think if Jalen hurts plays the whole game, the Eagles definitely win that game. But I don't think Kenny Pickett is the reason they lost that game. Does that

make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. Who is Brayden man has to get the ball in the end zone. The commander started at midfield every single possession. Luke McCaffrey every single possession. Okay. I don't understand. Like that is a huge thing. Devante Smith has to catch that football and the defense can't give up 22 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah. That's what that's what it comes down to. Yeah. None of that has to do with Kenny Pickett, right? Yeah, and listen Jaden Daniels was fucking awesome today Jane James through a fourth quarter pick with two and a half minutes ago And then you know what I would have lost and then he and one of the no he did in football

Caught the fucking football then you know we did he went down he threw his fifth. He's a rookie He's a rookie that makes very good plays and also very bad plays Yeah, he made some rookie mistakes had two bad picks today But he's still fucking awesome if Devante Smith catches that ball you are sitting here talking Jane and Daniels is a rookie that I wish that he didn't make that rookie mistake. Oh, are we going to the ifs game? I'm just saying like you like that you like to just nitpick plays But he's a rookie that makes good plays and he makes bad play no I almost lost the game I always say when he screwed up should have lost the game through two bad if Devontae Smith catches that ball

He lost the game. He threw two bad picks today Put them in a position where they could have lost but guess what where they got the ball back and then he won the game And Devontae, yes, correct. The last drive was very good by him But the drive before was very bad and you can't and you have and you have to say both Yeah, you have to say both bad you didn have to say both bad. You didn't know you guys say both. I said bad It's true. He did say bad things. You didn't say both till he said he also had some dots Some down but Max is right. He would have little have knowledge the good with the bad I fully admit you weren't you weren't going to until I said it.

His picks today were bad. When the game was on the line. When it mattered. When it was on the line he threw an interception with two and a half minutes to go Hank. But then when the game was on the line. Again! But the game could be on the line plenty. But the game wasn't on the line then.

Yes it was. No because if it was on the line and he threw that pick then we would have lost. That's true. The game wasn't on the line. Yeah I point back to BFC. It was getting close on the line and he threw that pick then we would have lost. That's true. Game wasn't on the line. I point back to BFC. It was getting close to the line. Okay, fine. Well, Max, you lost the one seed today.

Correct. It's fine. That hurts. Realistically though, the way that the rest of the games played out, they probably weren't going to get it anyway. The Vikings beating the Seahawks, they would have, the Vikings would have to lose the next two games. Well, no. No.

If you had won today, the Vikings could have easily lost to the Packers and then beaten the Lions. Yes. That's like the only exact scenario that could happen. They would have to beat the Lions and then lost to the Packers. No. It could have also been the Lions losing to the 49ers and then beating the Vikings. It's not that crazy.

Yeah, just one loss. Regardless. You had a lot of ways to- to the 49ers and then beating the Vikings. So that crazy. Yeah, just one loss. You had a lot of ways. Let's see how it shakes out. But odds are they weren't going to get the one seat anyway. Well, no, that's not true. They were they were very much alive for the ones. Odds are they weren't going to get the one seat anyway.

They are you worried about the defense? You have one bad game. It's the best defense in the NFL up for 13 weeks and then you have one bad game But you got to admit it bad with the good. This is a bad game, correct? 22 points in the fourth quarter I what that how did you want to you want to remind me how I started off this segment one bad game? I said you can't the defense cannot let up 22 points in the fourth quarter Let's just go around the circle and keep saying stupid fucking shit All right So I guess I have to talk about what I don't like about my own team because that's how we should

Properly appreciate a win and on this podcast is betting against your team When they're the games almost over is that stupid you will bet against your team whenever never you don't give a fuck about You are watching your games wanting to lose Is that stupid you will bet against your team whenever never you don't give a fuck about you Never you are watching your games wanting to lose. Yeah, I'm not betting against them You are watching your games wanting to lose Hank is at least consistent with that. I did that from Hank I didn't expect that from you. You're better than that That was that was a moment where I was like this is gonna lose. Maybe if I bet on it, they won't lose Mm-hmm. I I was putting that money you cash out because I got bullied. I always get bullied There was a you always get bullied

There was a point when when Kenny got into the game and Mac only me initial reaction was I hope Kenny plays well But not really that well. Do you regret that cuz I regret that you're cuz I was bad I regret that you didn't think that that I will you think Jalen could put my hand up take it He couldn't take a little no not a challenge. I just didn't I just hate listening to the fucking media You are the media no we are all the media with X other media So can you can he pick it not do you think you win that game of Jalen Hurts plays a whole game? I don't know yeah Ball bounces a couple weird weird ways who knows I'll say say I'll say another thing have to talk about two things

We have to talk about okay two things we have to talk please CJ Gardner Johnson getting thrown out of the game For for being mean for words. Yeah for what have you has anyone ever seen that in the NFL? Hank has number two Hank said yes, I guess I guess Hank has number two Hank said he has I guess I guess Cushion we don't know what words I guess Jalen hurts has a concussion the NFL needs to be consistent About when they're taking players out because there are hits that are so much worse than what happened to him then that Never get a dress. He gave thumbs up Yeah

He went he gave thumbs up went to the medical tent put his helmet back in to get back in the game and then someone from The NFL took him out. Explain this! Explain Josh Allen against the Texans. He was knocked out cold! Oh you have this pulled up? How? Why? I get it. Player safety. Oh okay. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Memes told me to... Memes was was like the Josh Allen thing. You got to talk five seconds, five seconds before he started recording. Yeah. I know. No. Did Josh give thumbs up that? No. Hold on. Hold on Max. You don't know what they said. They could have said, Hey Jalen, do you have a concussion? He gave thumbs up. Like, yeah,

I do. Thumbs up. The CJ Gardner Johnson getting ejected for being mean. I got you. We don't know. I got you there. That's just so dumb. It doesn't. It's not dumb. You don't think they could have said it's so you have a concussion and he went. Yeah. Doesn't deserve a response. Yeah, I do. We don't know what CJ said. We don't know the words that he said. But you want to come out of the game. Maybe they asked him. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to come out of the game? Are you, you feel like you have a concussion? Maybe they asked, maybe they asked CD dudes, Hey CJ, do you have a concussion? He was like, yeah. And then they threw a flag. They're like, okay, I'll just, I'll kick you out. Cause you're concussed.

Where's he going? Did he say where he was going? No, he just left. He just left. Uh, Jayden Daniels last drive was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, he had a few really good drives today. The legs were working Not having no brown out. There's is a pretty big impact. Although hey credit to James and Crowder who's still very much in the league Yeah touchdowns today Yeah, max you're back Yeah, I'm back. Okay. Okay. So where'd you go? I just I just took a little pacing outside took a lot So where'd you go? I just took a little pacing outside took a lap. What are they? The anger sharks? No, I was good. I should do that more often. Okay. That was just a quick time out. Quick time out. So I need a quick time out when you guys are just being so fucking dumb.

I also feel like I was lost. I think I kind of I think I think if we're being honest here, I think you had not even thought about the fact that the concussion spotter could have said, Hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? They went, yes, thumbs up like that dawning on you crushed you because you realize everything you thought about the thumbs up was a lie. Yes. Yeah, I think I'm right. This loss is pretty much designed in the lab to piss Max off the most the way that it went

down. Because yeah, kicking an impact player out for words, like two personal fouls on words. Yeah. Pretty crazy. Yeah. I don't know what he said. I don't know what they were looking at. But the first one was nuts because he says something, then it gets punched in the face.

Yeah. And then they throw a flag and they say yeah personal foul on CJ Gardner Johnson Yeah, and it's like wait what happened there? Nobody knows exactly but the ref was like right in between him So I guess he heard something But yeah, it feels like this was just designed to get max the end as mad as possible. Good job NFL Yeah, no max got as mad as possible. I mean I think Max here Something positive. I think you guys win that game easily with Jalen hurts

Easily the way say Kwan could not run like he could run in the first quarter first half Without Jalen hurts in there because they can they basically can play Kenny pick it completely different They basically just said we're gonna make Kenny Pickett beat us, correct? And Kenny Pickett unfortunately could not do that. Yeah, but I don't think Kenny Pickett Can you pick it did enough to win the game if Devontae Smith catches the ball? That's also That's why I'm not going to put this put this Blame on Kenny Pickett also say I had a drop to He did and showed it AJ Brown. Yeah, say Kwan had a drop. He had a drop

Yeah, cuz he's dropped a good defense by Bobby Wagner See, we should say that it was good defense Yeah, also so was the AJ was good defense by Lattimore But the Devontae Smith there was no one within three yards of them. Oh, yeah Lattimore did not look that good today AJ Brown kind of abused him. Yeah, it was it was not looking great He got a couple bad PIs and he was getting cooked out there a little bit made me pump my brakes on Latimore a little bit credit to you credit to me credit to you. That's huge. So max we might be on a collision course There's a chance that I mean the commanders at what are they at 94% right now? I want now I want you so bad

Oh, okay. Well, oh you want them the way it shakes out with Kenny or jail Oh, okay. Well, oh you want them the way it shakes out with Kenny or jailer With jail, okay with if Kenny why cuz Kenny wasn't the reason you lost the game. So I didn't know that was Yeah, I thought maybe you were like hey we can beat him with Kenny cuz that would be the ultimate revenge I still think that I still would be confident if we had Kenny at home and a week to prepare Cuz if you're a man if you're a man, if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny. No, no, no, I'm just saying if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny. Yeah, I mean the way that you're talking right now, a week to prepare with Kenny. I'll take that.

I don't get the kick off. Unless they were trying to not put it. Your special teams is just bad. Bad. So bad. And it's one third of the game. That's, that's a thing that will wear its ugly head. That's a thing.

You gotta be, what's the quote? Two thirds of the game. That's that's a thing that will wear its ugly head. That's the thing you got to be. What's what's the quote. Two thirds of the game. Two thirds of the game is is mental. A third of the game is is Jalen Hurts not getting. No this isn't. No. Oh it's a third of the game. The NFL didn't want Jalen Hurts to play today for some reason.

You don't think so. They didn't want him to play. He thumbs up and then he had his helmet on the sideline ready to go back in. NFL didn't want Jalen Hurts to play today for some reason. You don't think so? They didn't want him to play? He thumbs up and then he had his helmet on the sideline ready to go back in. What if they asked him, hey, what month is it? And he gave a thumbs up. I'm happy he's safe. Yeah, me too.

I'm happy he's safe. Me too. I'm happy. Player safety. Yeah, player safety is important. But again, he might have just said, yeah, I have a concussion. Thumbs up. He didn't even think about that.

So Max, should Sirianni shave his head oh yeah yeah yeah we shall master yeah sure is that also huge huge weekend for the commanders got RFK Stadium back as a site that was like in the middle of the night on Friday Saturday morning that's huge and then following it up with this listen this is this is a game that we probably had no, no right to win. It looked like we don't apologize. No, I'm not going to apologize. We lost this game like five different times, maybe more. Um, so I'll take a win. It's hard to win in the NFL. It's hard to win in the NFL max. Okay. So max,

I'll take another shit on my team because apparently I have to do that. Uh, Dan Quinn, his time management at the end of the game was terrible. It was awful. But then Jayden said doesn't matter cuz I'm Jane I would actually argue that it was great It is it enough because you can't you can't and you can't leave time for Kenny No, you can't leave time for Kenny it is a P out perfectly But I'm a process guy six seconds actually maybe a little too much time for KP. Yeah. No, that wasn't that unfortunately It was not enough. All right. Well, it's good that you're not yelling at us and getting angry I didn't get angry at all. No, not at all. I didn't get angry at all in this segment So this was this was a mature conversation between colleagues cause

Cause number one of the loss was your your kickoff specialist not being able to reach the I wish I I was so mad about the kickoff team today every single time he brought it back to midfield Every time and you give credit to Luke McCaffrey. I will for you credit. Sure And I'll give credit to your return team for blocking. Well, yeah, thank you. But why? did Why couldn't you just put it in the end zone like we couldn't? Like that that's it that last drives a different drive if he's, if it started from the 25 instead of the 45. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Um, okay. Well, uh, congrats PFT 93% chance to make the playoffs

now. Love it. Love it. Holy shit. Would it be great if you guys played first time since 2012 that we've had 10 wins and uh, looking at a record like this, I believe that's the first time since like 1991 that it's happened. That's crazy. So it's been a long ass time. Do you have any last words for Hank because you were very upset at Hank in the gambling cave as well. Hank's just a prick that just like wants to be showing blame at all times.

He just wants to exist? He just wants to be showing... Like you, that... There was going... I was going to yell at PFT regardless right like that had nothing to do with you The clipping question we could play it. I literally started the clip by saying I just don't want drama You're being you're being totally serious no, it's been legit because he was talking about the Kenny Pickett Oh, yeah, yeah the Jalen Hurts thing. Yeah, I just want to sell those to just collapse in the playoffs this year so badly. That's all I want That's all I want. That's the only way you can hurt Santa

I'm listening right next to you with my face right in your fucking grill as Jalen Brown or as Jason Tatum just bricks the three that would have sent the team to the finals Is this to the Sixers? Sixers are dead. Damn. No, they're not. They could get to 10 wins. No, Sixers are dead. Now my sole, my sole goal is to just somehow have the Celtics lose and,

and look at your face when it happens. Oh, not looking at your face. Not winning the Superbowl. I'm talking about the NBA season. He's talking about the, he's on the NBA season. This loss ended at the NBA. So he's talking about these on the NBA season This loss ended at the no no you guys love putting words in my mouth But you asked max second place in the NFC pretty good and

That's also not true. Also the laughing clip was incredible. Like I played that because it's it's a great clip You laughing was very funny. I don't even remember what part of the game that was yeah I mean we're supposed to yeah I think it was after maybe the Diami Brown fumble I think it was a Brian Robinson fumble no cuz Brian Robinson's early yeah it was early it was the laugh was early yeah losing a game where your five to one turnover battle is pretty crazy yes it's hard to do that's really hard to do and Daniel's Kenny yeah Yeah, losing a game where you're five to one turnover battle is pretty crazy. Yep. It's hard to do. That's really hard to do.

But Jaden Daniels is fucking awesome. Yeah. Except for those picks, which were bad. Not blaming Kenny. Not blaming Kenny on the loss, but if he could keep a drive going together a little bit longer, that would have been great. Max, do you think that by the end of games, opponents actually like Jaden Daniels as a friend?

It is crazy what he does. He spends half the time between the plays talking to the other team and like joking around with him. And they're like laughing and shaking hands and playing grab ass. I feel like by the end of the game, they're like, fuck, I respect that dude. Like they kind of like him. Him and Jalen Carter were like boys during the game. Yeah. And Carter is a mean guy.

Yeah. Like why were they? It probably took him out of the game a little. Yeah. Jayden's because he's probably likes to play with a little bit of edge. Yeah, and you and he's too nice They they were he was just dapping him up after like a good like pass rush. He's a good play I hate that I hate that. Yeah, but But what if Devante Smith just catch that caught that ball you would hate that a little bit more

Is that what you meant when you say is the Falcons game all over again? Yes, because you remember Saquon dropped a wide open pass that would have won the game I do Devante Smith did that today So like but and then the Falcons went down and scored scored very little time I'm gonna put that Jason Kelsey night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so that's that's what I was both So if Saquon and Devante Smith catch the ball you one seed. Correct. Oh yeah. Minimum both of those if two of like the best players in the league just catch a wide open ball to win the one seed one seed one seed. So now the commander's

Falcons game next Sunday night. Big game. Very big game Fal Falcons Commanders. Yeah. Well, not as much for you. No, it's big. But the Seahawks losing, I mean, even if you lose, like, the Seahawks, I mean, the Seahawks have to win out. No, but it's a big game, like, for seeding, too. You still have six seed potential. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

For seeding, it's a massive game. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess that is a big game. Oh, the Packers, that's because the Packers have... I want your ass. The, it's a massive game. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess that is a big game. I don't want that. I want your ass. Oh, the Packers, that's because the Packers have him. I want your ass. The Packers are about to win. Yeah, but then if the Packers lose to the Vikings next week and we win out, then I think

we get the sixth seed. You'd have them even if the Packers, if you have the same record? I think so. The same record? I think so. We'll have's find that Tiebreaker I've been screwing around with the playoff thing that I have no idea. What's up? the the The tiebreakers all are very hard. Here's what they'll put it if the Saints win now both teams 10 to 5

It's got the commanders over the Packers if they're both 10 and 5 Oh, so it assumed that yeah, if we can win out and the Packers can lose one game Then six seed then we're looking at Tyberg the commanders. Yeah, it says right there then we'd be going to the Rams Wow And then the Packers go into the link That would be scary max now who would you rather play I've already made that statement yeah the Packers Who would you rather play? I've already made that statement. Yeah the Packers No, literally like 30 seconds. He wants I want you want your ass with Kenny. He said he wants your ass with Kenny I will take her and her but even with Kenny I would still okay

All right, PFC want to rip a couple ads good. Good job, Max. You didn't get so so mad a couple times. You got a little mad Not so soon. He took a timeout. He didn't take so, so mad. Couple times you got a little mad. Not so, so, I mean, he took a time out. He had to take a time out. Before we get back to the games we brought to you by our good friends over at Game Time, can we look up and see what it costs to get into the Monday Night Football game in Lambeau? Find it, Hank.

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quarterback in the NFL. Probably not, probably not. And was Joe Burrow versus DTR and DTR should probably not be playing quarterback in the NFL. Probably not, probably not. And then Joe Burrow, what did his teammates say about him? Like that's not Batman. That's that motherfucker Superman. Yeah. And I guess he said that he got he got knocked down by his own player and was able to throw the ball with his body horizontal his knee on the ground. And it just feels like the Bengals. I mean, there was nothing the Browns could do really with DTR as a quarterback They couldn't put together a drive. Well, I mean the the start of the game They hate they get a huge run from Jerome Ford they get to goal line and he fumbles on like the maybe the

the inch line And it was like alright, you can't if you don't score there. It's not your day and Joe burrow That was his seventh consecutive three TD, 250 plus yard performance. That's the first quarterback ever to do that in the NFL. He now has 39 touchdowns, 4,229 yards. He leads the league in both. He's having an MVP season without the MVP because of the way the team has played, but they're still alive. Also Jamar Chase, I believe will get the triple crown. He's

I mean, I know he just eclipsed 1500 yards. I feel like he has 100 touchdowns. Yeah. How many? What is he broke his own franchise record? He leads the NFL in receptions. He's got 108 receiving yards with 1510 and touchdown catches. So yeah, 16 triple crown. So he's defeated everybody in the NFL, including himself. He beat all of his own records from last year. Yeah, and he's he's up. He's up four on the touchdowns. He's up. He's up a couple hundred yards. Yeah, it feels like he's going to get, I guess the only thing that could be close is receptions, but he's, I mean, he's been incredible. So it's in, this is all the season is going to drive Bengals fans even crazier. Although not dead again, week 17 is going to be that game against the Broncos, which I believe is Saturday. Hank's Saturday football will be massive because if they win that game now They desperately need the Steelers to beat the Chiefs the Steelers beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs will arrest everyone

Although maybe they wouldn't because that would be I was thinking about it if the Chiefs win on Christmas Day Mm-hmm, and then they decide to rest their starters in week 18 Carson Wentz That would be I don't know exactly the exact amount of days I'm gonna look at it right now because it feels like it would be a massive amount of days be 1 14 I think it would be it would be almost 25 days 24 days that they would be resting. Rest first rust. If they rested their starters and got the buy, that's a lot. That's that is that might be too much. Don't you agree? It's a lot because well, that's also like a little mini buy for Andy Reid to cook on

though. Right. We scheme something up in in that week 18 game, even with his backups. True, true. But I that's that's feels like that would be a shitload of time to having everyone sit out. If Mahomes is dinged up at all after the Steelers game, they'll just sit him anyway if they win that game. Either way, the point is the Bengals are still alive going into week 17, which at many points in the season thought wouldn't be possible. We said they were dead like five times.

A million times. And I don't know There's nothing really to say about the Brown season because DTR is playing right now, so it's not even watchable miles Garrett I guess say this mouse Garrett the first player ever to get a hundred sacks before turning 29 years old That's pretty cool pretty good, and he also probably wants to trade he and you know what I say trade him, dude I don't know why anyone would have any problem with that when he's, he's such an incredible player and he's like, yeah, I don't really want I like I'm 20. I'm about to be 29. Don't really want to be here for

a rebuild. Because if I'm here for a rebuild, by the time I'm like 33 and we're rebuilding, I don't know if I'll still have it. I mean, most of his career has been for rebuild. That. So infuriating he should not I wouldn't want to do that again if I were him hell no hell no free Yeah, I I would love I'd love to see the Bengals somehow crash the party out It's gonna be I think I think they still need the Colts to lose and the Dolphins to lose So they still need a lot of help But again, they're still playing for something which is cool cool because that's really what it will like. I want to see Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase still playing for something. Just from a pure enjoyment standpoint, Stefanski not playing Jamis, I guess he's got a bad shoulder, right? Yeah. So we're going with a

shoulder excuse, but at least in games where you're coaching Jamis Winston, it makes you use your imagination as a head coach because he gets you into some jams that you wouldn't Normally be in right and you have to figure a way out of them, right? And then you can actually use the whole playbook and have them throw the ball downfield It's gonna be a lot more fun to coach him than it is to coach DTR. Yeah, so hopefully once he's healthy put him back in Yeah, put him back in get him back in I don't think they're gonna put him back in but get him back in make us Make us like enjoy watching Browns games please. Yeah, for the ratings. We'd really appreciate it. For our personal enjoyment, I'll be selfish. I want it for

myself. I want it for the good of the league. Yeah, for the good of the league and ourselves. Yeah, listen, there's probably like 50 or 60 first time watchers every weekend for Browns games. I've never seen a football game before. And they want to see they once Let's give them a show. Let them see Jamis. Let them see Jamis. Okay Moving on next up Colts 38 Titans 30. This was a crazy game. Oh, oh

We got a touchdown. No, we got a pick the Bucs have found Every single way to fuck up this game. That was crazy. That was bad. That was crazy. All right, actually we're going to do the Lions Bears. I was going to do the Colts Titans because I thought the Bucs were going to maybe score and I wanted to half watch see if Mike Evans so we could get the TD parlay for the people.

But that doesn't look like it's in the cards tonight because that was an insane interception. How do you intercept that? The Cowboys, no one wants to play this Cowboys team. No one's going to have to play this Cowboys team after week 18, but no one wants to play this Cowboys team. That was crazy. Just took it away from on the way down. Oh no. Do you have to play this Cowboys team? Yeah. I'll be there though. Okay. So you're going to save the season. You have to play this Cowboys team too.

I'm going to save it. Yeah. wait, so you just said that you just know I seriously know I was saying that because they're like actually playing decent football right? Yeah All right Lions 34 Bears 17 I Don't know what to say other than the Lions just clowned us which I expected but the fake the fake fumble play That Jared and Ben Johnson cooked up that was extra clowning. It's crazy like how how many more trick plays does Ben Johnson have if he's if he's asking his quarterback hey can you accidentally

on purpose fumble the ball from with a lie and then fall down and then stand up and throw it like that is not a that's not a play that a normal sane person would use in a matchup No offense big cat no in a matchup against the male offense taken. I mean it well they said they like the look against bears I alright, so here's what I'm hoping Ben Johnson was just he's just trying to make the Bears pay even more money for him by Because there was a report that he's intrigued by the Bears Because there was a report that he's intrigued by the Bears

Which I don't even Like he might be just intrigued like how can they be so bad? How is this franchise been around for 105 years and been this bad? But he also said he likes the sound of Caleb Williams past he likes the way the ball how the ball whistles Yeah, it loves his balls. It would be funny if he came out was just like yeah I when I said I was intrigued by the Bears, I was literally just like, how is this possible? We all should be intrigued by how how they never had a 4000 yard passer 105 years in the league to invent a new genre of play the stumble Ruski and then pull it off. It just the balls that it takes to do that. And they're good enough to execute it. It's crazy. And then so we were saying last week, like, I don't know how much new stuff that the Lions can try on offense with all the injuries they have defensively how many more games can they keep winning? I think Ben Johnson just has a never-ending Yeah of tricks deepest bag and then to add insult injury. I did text our good friend Jared Goff and I said was the fake trip play necessary and he replied sorry big guy

fake trip play necessary and he replied sorry big guy next year is the year. He big-guided you. Which I've also thought about this maybe he knows his offensive coordinator is going to the Bears that's why he said next year's the year. Or he was just saying that to get your hopes up. That also could be the case. Yeah I don't know what the Bears suck the defense defense is awful now. Caleb was, I mean he had a nice pass to Keenan Allen. I don't really know. I mean they're just the whole team just bums me out so much. Do you think the big guy was meant as like a pat on the head? I think he's probably saying I'm fat. Yeah. Yeah. It is what it is. It's tough. Yeah, I mean the whole, I mean the Bears are a four-win team that

It is what it is. It's tough. Yeah. I mean the whole, I mean, the, the bears are a four win team that kicked a field goal down 20 points on fourth and seven from the 12th. Thomas Brown. There's the door. Well, yeah, they don't really have a coach. He should be coaching up in the booth. He should be coaching up in the booth. Put the head coach up in the booth. Let's see what happens. It's a it's it's hard. I just wanted to end it. We have to play one more game on national television on Thursday night, but the Lions deserve all the credit. They bounce. They get off the mat. They're seven and oh on the road this year, which I know there's, you know, talk like in the lines going the yeah, they can. They're seven oh on the road. Jamir Gibbs also answered the bell of like, can he can he be the guy because he carried the ball 23 times at 109 yards. So yeah, the Lions are just that's how a good team bounces back. That's what a good team looks like when they when they

get punched in the mouth. They come and take care of business and it was never in doubt. Jared Goffman has learned how to defeat the cold. Yeah. The narrative's over. He looks great. He looked great today and the and the only the only the only thing that was the only cold that bothered him is I I thought for a second that Dan Campbell's nose was gonna fall off he had the reddest nose of all times very very red yeah you can tell that shit was running probably crusting over a little bit yeah the Lions are just very very good and and their defense I know they have some no names but they uh they played well and so yeah I just want this season to end the only thing I'm rooting for now is that I want Caleb to

So he's the first rookie quarterback in Bears history to go over 3,000 yards I'm hoping that he can somehow I think he'd have to throw 364 yards twice So average 364 yards to break the all-time record for Bears rushing Are sorry passing yards in a season. That's all I'm rooting for. Defeat the graphic. Yeah. The bears, this is, so Caleb went over 3,000 yards.

That is the 13th time the bears have had a passer over 3,000 yards in their 105 year history. To put that in perspective, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning both have 14 seasons over 3,000 yards So Matt Ryan and Eli Manning by themselves have more 3,000 yards than a team playing football for a hundred and five years It's pretty crazy. So right now you guys are drafting ninth Yeah, this is the worst year to be bad because somebody's name is bad. Every team's really bad Yeah, have you thought about what direction you're going the draft? I would like an offensive lineman, but I don't know if there's going to be one there. So

then just take defensive line, whatever it, whatever, whatever the draft pick is, it has to say line. Take a big guy has to be line. That's it. It just has to be line with a letter in front of it. That's it. Okay. Nothing else. If you, if you tell me anything else, I'm sending it back and Ryan Paul should probably not be the one making the pick because there's some things that have just Listen, I like the guy personally but We took a project third in the third round who can't even be on the field From you. Yeah, and then we took a punter in the fourth round who I like Tory Taylor because he had a sick punt today

But aren't you glad you took Tory Taylor? Yeah, maybe not. Maybe probably could have used an offensive lineman. Yeah It's pretty good punter congrats to the Lions though 13 wins is the most in the history of the franchise in a single season So that's pretty awesome. And yeah, they keep rolling and they they have endless trick plays that will just keep coming out and I'm hoping that was Ben Johnson Showing I mean the Macassi even if he was showing the Macassi's what to do like they're they don't know I don't see I'm kind of with you that that might have been more of a negotiation thing Yeah, like he just went up. He knows they want him. That was another million dollars that sure But now look what I can do right, right?. You're going to have to pay a premium.

Again, take out the sorry big guy part. Next year's the year. Ben Johnson might have told Jared like, hey, I'm going to go to the Bears. This is the last dance? Yeah, I'm going to the Bears. Yeah. I'm intrigued by, I want to see just how dysfunctional this organization could be. I want to hear his balls whistling by my ears all night.

Hear those balls. All right. Colts 38 Titans 30 this was a crazy game in the fact that it started seven nothing Titans then it was 38 seven Colts then it was 38 30 final but I'd say because this game doesn't really have a lot of meaning I know the Colts are technically still alive this game was the game and everyone knows this listening to this right now. Every year in the fantasy playoffs there's one guy who if you have him you

won and if you went against him you lost and it's just cut and dry black and white as clear as that and that was Jonathan Taylor this year. This was the year if you go you could have the best team in the world and you go up against Jonathan Taylor today who had 218 yards and three touchdowns and you're gone. Well also if you went up against Jonathan Taylor last week you probably won. Yeah a lot of Jonathan Taylor teams got bounced last week. Yeah and we're this is probably like a big consolation prize game. Well I have I have John Taylor team I had a buy. Okay yeah congrats. You could have a buy. Congrats. Yeah, can you could have a buy congrats with Jonathan Taylor? So Jerry had Anthony Richardson starting for us today. Mmm. Jio Joc Joc and

It's gonna be a big Monday night game for the boys. Mmm. We need Brandon McManus to get 13 points Okay, and then we then we advanced the finals you can do that Jerry you can do that. Give him a pump up speech Jerry Yeah, Anthony Richardson His stat line was very funny today. He was seven for 11, 131 yards of touchdown interception, but did have also 70 rushing yards. It felt like when he threw the interception, Shane Stikin was like, no, we're done. We're done throwing today. We're not doing this anymore. So one thing I noticed on, on both of Taylor's long touchdown runs and Richardson's long run Quentin Nelson, you remember him? Yeah, he's still fucking awesome

And he's still just beer games bowling people over just destroying people out there. Yeah, very fun Hang out with a beer games beer Olympics He's one of those guys where you stand next to him and you this is a different species than I am fun fact I chugged faster than chip Quentin Nelson at beer. Oh, that's fine I told literally the whole place probably too many times cuz I was drunk that's an off of three beers. That's a man Yeah, and Quentin else was like, okay, dude, you've said this to me 17 times. Why are you so drunk off three beers? But a sneaky fun game. Yeah. Yeah, this was it was it was up and down fun game the

So the only so the Colts are technically still alive What did the Colts have to win out and then they have to have the Broncos lose out and I don't know Can you can you do that for me real quick? It's still alive. Yeah, I also we are We should have mentioned this on Friday, but Anthony Richardson is on Teebo watch. I don't know if you knew that so he's at 47.7 percent completion percentage this year. Tebow has the worst completion percentage for a starting quarterback in a season at 46.5%. So today actually was a good day for Anthony Richardson because he went 7 for 11. Okay the Colts can make the playoffs if they went out and the Chargers lose out

Okay, so the Chargers would need to lose to the Raiders and the Patriots got it probably not gonna happen Probably not gonna happen probably not gonna happen, but it could also Mason Rudolph not the guy not the guy you were going for a spark He's not a spark Mason. We've we've seen enough Mason Rudolph to know that that's not a spark guy. No. He's not a spark This game was a spark this game was more fun than we expected it to be When we were getting ready for this slate, but yeah Mason Rudolph not spark But you know what the the Colts are gonna remember that they played the Titans. Yeah, I'm gonna be like I I remember I know who we just played remember that shit Titans go to 2 and 13 Also really tough 2 and 13

Against the spread. Sorry, are they shooting 13 as well 3 and 12 3 and 12, but they're 2 and 13 against spread It's not great when you say your team's not soft and then you give up 335 yards rushing but you know what because I like Brian Callahan Positive side his team was down 38 7 and they did not give up yards rushing. But you know what, because I like Brian Callahan, positive side, his team was down 38 seven and they did not give up. That's not a soft team. That's true. They can't. That is not a soft team. They kept fighting. Yeah. So they come off the field. They know they just played us. Yeah, exactly. Listen, they there's going to be no mistaking. We were only able to do that against the Titans. Remember the Titans. Okay, do we have anything else from the Colts Titans?

I don't think so we're watching Baker Mayfield try to get the the Bucks down the field to maybe get Mike Maybe my touchdown which would be Incredible Incredible incredible, but I don't think it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I don't gonna happen Are they gonna happen? Do you want to you want to announce it Hank here? Cuz they're going fast enough that that we could just you could just say it Yeah, the Bucs have the ball somewhere near the red zone

We could do our recap of this game while we do this Baker Mayfield snaps. He drops back. He's looking at Mike Evans He fakes is he pressured all nights Complete to not like Evans. Yeah, I'm impressed that the Cowboys did not give up. How about Ezekiel Laleh getting a touchdown, huh? Yeah. Just rolling them out there being like, hey, Zeke, you've been around. Give it up for the hometown fans real quick. Let's you take one last bow before them.

It's Christmas time. It was bad. It's been a bad game for the Bucs. It's been a bad game for the Bucs. But again, I'm more impressed that the Cowboys just have not given up like they've they have no reason to play and They've kind of been playing good football recently. Yeah, I do think that McCarthy saves a job a couple weeks ago I do too and and Jerry and Jerry can be like, hey, you know what? Win before Christmas feels like the win before Christmas means more counts as a double win

So Jerry always does the opposite of what we think he's gonna do. We've we've pre-fired Mike McCarthy several times on this podcast. Yeah. And then Jerry's kept them around. Is this... But remember... We're saying McCarthy has done enough to stay around. And then Jerry's like we got to move on. We've said this before but like Jerry Jones from the 90s is not Jerry Jones of the last you know 20 years. He kept Jason Garrett around for five years too long maybe we've just got Jerry wrong maybe we just can't get inside that head of his hey Mike McCarthy's a great coach it could all be true all right ready Hank yeah there was an injury on the field

the Bucks are huddled up they're gonna call the Mike Evans play you sure score touchdown yeah this is it they really need to they really really need to Stephen Che is watching in the other room being like word the game's not over He's been saying that for the last three hours 2617 Dallas with 243 remaining and the Bucks only have two timeouts So they have to score before the two-minute warning to have any chance of possibly winning this game And they just showed the graphic in the Bucks losing this game is very detrimental to their right chances of making because playoffs right now the Falcons would have they'd be ahead of them they would be ahead of them you'd have to you'd have to beat the Falcons for Stephen

Che. Mike Evans by the screen. Baker-Meyerfield snaps the ball, he looks at Baker he's throwing it to him that's not Mike Evans touchdown bucks. Whoever the fuck that's not Scottie Miller. That would be Scott right now on side Ryan Miller Steelers yeah, so we knew that it's not that's not fair to us to have to but another Miller We're hard-working scrappy. That's also where Mike Evans usually is right Catching touchdowns yes fuck damn Hank all right all right we'll go to the next now declared onside kick coming up for the Bucks or do they kick it deep I think we they could kick it deep yes you time out she's timeouts in the two minute warning because you could what would the pussy thing to do be? Would would the wrong decision be I don't know and also Hank they're not gonna They're not gonna go for a touchdown. So that's out. Yeah, I

Think the wrong thing to do. Yeah be the onside kick it. No I yeah, I think you got to kick it deep because you can win with a field That means that Todd Bulls is gonna onside kick it. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's definitely what's gonna happen. Okay Rams 19 Jets 9 This game was weird. The Jets opened the game with a 99 yard touchdown drive They did not punt a single time this game and they scored nine points The first team in 25 years to not punt and score fewer than 10 points. Yeah. How did that happen, Memes? This game was incredible.

Memes said that they're the most electric watch. Yeah. Well, I noticed that. I think we're the most entertaining team in football. I noticed that. The PMT made an account. That's just not true. Not from a football perspective.

Saying that they turned into the greatest show on turf today. No, no, no. When the Jets get eliminated from the playoffs, they turn into the playoffs. They scored nine points. Yeah, they scored nine points. And then they didn't score after I pressed- I press-end on that tweet. Ah!

That was a great drive. It was a great drive. So, yeah, so what happened at A-Memes? Uh, the weather happened. A lot of wind. Um, a lot of drops. That's pretty much it. Okay. Uh, Fireman-Ed?

Fireman-Ed continues to be banned from the Jumbotron? Yeah, Fireman-Ed made the game about himself as soon as we lost What he said he put up a post saying like I once again. I've been frozen out from the jumbotron Yeah, they keep they keep squeezing him out from the jumbotron. Yeah, very sad We need to we need to get in touch with fireman ed not to talk to him or have him on the show But just to then get him in touch with Marlins man Okay, here's I feel like they need to talk to each other because the fireman Ed was like hey I got squeezed out Marlins man be like dude same with me Jets nation. I'm at the game

But this is the second home game in a row I'm not included on the jumbotron to do the chant with the Scott and jet man. Oh, man They froze him out. That's crazy. What he needs, he needs to pull a T-Bow and like rescue somebody in the stands having a medical emergency. Yeah. And then Jet, then Jetman is sitting over there with his thumb up his ass and Fireman Ed steps into action saves a life. That would be nice. Yeah, I'm gonna need a statistic on how many games we've won with fireman head on the jumbotron and not probably bad both ways yeah yeah if I had to guess the Rams are a very big issue for my pinky because they're gonna win the NFC West now they control their own destiny

and they have gone from a 1 in 4 team to a what are they nine and six so they're eight and two in their last ten they're one of the hottest teams in in the NFL it was kind of crazy is although you don't think of Sean McVay as being a cold weather coach they're kind of built for it a little bit now they're just running the football like Kyron William he's so consistent yeah he's just always out there getting just enough to win and their defense played well and It was cool to see Tyler Higbee back from his ACL injury his first game back scores game-winning touchdown nice jump into the end zone Yeah, I mean this is a bummer to watch memes. I don't know how they could be exciting in any way

I'll give credit to memes when they missed that field goal memes Correctly was like yes, that's good Yes, I also knew they were gonna miss it was a 49 yard field goal into the wind yeah, and you want them to lose Yes, I think it was a perfect game up until Olu Fashanu got hurt He hurt his foot and then how bad the fuck no we don't know but a lot of people thought it was his Achilles Oh, no, but it's his foot and so right now you have the eighth pick This really is the worst year to be bad your 4-11 and you have the eighth pick But I think I think this is actually good for the Jets though. Okay, go ahead

Jamis bridge quarterback quarterback, but there's so many bad quarterbacks You let the other teams take that so it limits your option and you get the good quarterback No, that no no none of these quarterbacks. You're not taking a quarterback this year not not in the first round, okay? Because what? Chador cam ward once they go it's gonna yeah, then you need that third team to take the reach quarterback. Yep So that limits you to take the best player available Hopefully a D line that drops Mike L. Williams would rock mm- or mason-gram a lot of people say we have I want him I want him the jet the Bears have lost nine in a row and have the ninth pick yeah, we're

It's crazy. It's crazy like the bears even football. We accidentally tanked, but we have the ninth pick They got it. Yeah, it's it's not I think someone tweeted it, but a four-win team last year at this time would have the third pick. How many wins did you guys have last year? I think we had four. Yeah, you had the second pick. It's crazy. So I'm looking at what's the teams that are now with four wins and three wins, do they

even play each other? I'm not sure. Does Jacksonville play Tennessee again I yes you do yes that's gonna be a big game oh you could hear Stephen Shea go screaming oh I don't think that was actually potential fumble either way third down stop by the box earning at the ball back a minute and fifty left no time out Yeah, no way that was a fumble. No, there's no way out for no

He is he is somehow watches so much football and still doesn't really know how football works I it's actually he knows how football works He just always takes the most optimistic view of things even though the facts are right in front of his face I can hear what he's saying I'm pretty sure he's heard him scream fuck cuz he realized that it wasn't it was never a fumble He was always he was always down He could have been more down Also always crazy that Vita V does not wear gloves

It was funny watching him. That was he was down Jake Ferguson was a lay on the Like that's, that's what Stephen Che does though where he'd be like ball. Like dude, are you watching this? It was very funny watching him tackle a turpentine in the first half. Yeah. It's like the smallest player on the field and by far the biggest player on the field. Yeah. The, uh, so the bucks have a chance here. All right. So Rams are dangerous. I don't know. They're going to what I don't think so. Why not in the cold? you need them to play Philly in Philly Okay, they just beat me and that Stafford had a hundred yards Yeah, Karen will because I didn't punt and we would just go in we would we'd go for it inside our own third

I did like the Jeff Ulbrich was just like fuck it. This season is over. He was basically coaching it like a bowl game Yeah, it was incredible. He was just like I'm going for it all the time. I don't care Yeah, yeah, the not punting thing is a little bit of a fake stat because I think a lot of teams would have punted a few times Yeah, no, there was only cuz they did go they went for it on there on in the red zone. Yep Um, I think they only went for it on their own side of the they went a couple times like maybe twice the field goal at The end yeah off turn over on downs. Yeah, it was kind of yeah It was fun to watch you were three turnover on downs three turnover on downs But how many were on their own side how many were that like would have been punting definitely two

That was oh my god he's screaming what a play Mike Evans mom something big is about to happen oh man we're about to watch it maybe it's a Mike Evans touchdown that would be incredible oh oh Baker that was a crazy play by Baker a little shovel pass Rashad white that was a pretty nice play oh they fumble that's very funny was he screaming about that no he said I heard what a play and then he probably got quiet once the yeah once this happened this is a this is chaotic yeah wait first out ball game over How is he not down

They did all that to get that a fumble. Oh, he was holding the ball like a loaf of bread Yeah, I think he was I think that was a fumble Let's see here comes the replay is great podcasting by the way That is a fumble. It falls out. Game over. Tell Stephen Shade to get in here. Okay. I want to hear a recap real quick. Just to two seconds. I want to, cause I bet on the box. I want to yell at them. Ball security is very important in this league and the box just didn't do that. Ah, memes. That was so jets are most electric team. Most entertaining most entertaining team most entertaining team. Yeah, it's like a choose your own adventure when when you watch him. You never know what you're gonna get. Well, I think you do kind

of. Yeah. So when they're gonna lose, you're gonna go to Buffalo, maybe play spoiler. No. Okay. No. But electric? Electric, yes. Shootout? Probably not. Yeah, probably not. Patriots played them too close, now we're gonna get fucking Yeah, killed. Stomped. How can you be electric if no shootout? Electric in the sense that you don't know what's gonna happen.

Yeah, you don't know what's gonna happen. What the fuck? I mean, you what's gonna happen. Yeah, you don't know what's gonna happen. What the fuck? I mean, you gotta hold onto the ball, Steven. No shit! How do we have a timeout right now? Did NBC not fucking update the score graph? That's right. Steven, what?

You couldn't have thought that that was a fumble by Jake Ferguson. What? The play before, the Cowboys, they when Vita V hit him. You thought that was a fumble? No, no, no. All right. You got talking to Mike. Yeah, we're in the middle of the show. Oh, okay. I mean, this fucking their fucking victory formation. What the fuck? Oh, this was brutal. Did you see via the head stick on third down? Yeah. Did you think that was a fumble? No

Oh fucking sick play. Yeah, where would you say tonight went wrong? Che? I Mean million turnovers the Jalen McMillan that was a touchdown and or he's down with the one The interception exception. Yeah. Yeah. No, he intercepted him. I Thought that at least deserved review. I guess they did review it, but they definitely reviewed it a second review Yeah, I mean where it went wrong That was your biggest thing that you take away, you know, I was the and I tweeted this out when it happened Bucks drive it down into the first half 54 seconds left. They get a first down. They have one timeout left. They're on the 11 yard line

It's first and 10 from the 11. They called a timeout with 54 seconds left. That's crazy. It was their last timeout. Yeah. So you have nothing left. They score the next play. Yeah. So they give the ball back 48 seconds left.

The Cowboys go down and kick a field goal. So we don't get just a seven point touchdown. We then go in, that score difference goes from seven to four and we lose by two points. So Yeah, I think things went wrong there. Yeah, you need to beat the Panthers next week. I want any of you guys to handle business, but now things get really weird because if you got if the Falcons win and we win Then you and I are now duking it out for the seventh spot. No

No, I don't think so. Cause we have a tiebreaker against you. Oh yeah, I guess it's the Falcons win. If the Falcons win and you win next week, we're still in the seventh spot. But then- We would be in the seventh spot, but then it's gonna come down to the last week. Then it would come down to the last week. Oh wow.

Oh wow. Where you've got the Saints. Yeah. Probably a win. Yeah. And then we've got the Cowboys. And the Cowboys- Are playing well and hate you guys.

If they beat us, then... That's horrible. Yeah. What, um... Yeah. Does this ruin Christmas? Knocks us out. Yeah, I mean this is horrible.

I also had a giant future ticket on the Bucks parlayed with two other division winners that I could have cashed out and I didn't. So, this is bad. But I mean, it's not, it's certainly not over. I knew this would be a tough game, but this was bad. Brandon the fucking weapon every time they got every single time we're near midfield He's kicking it right down the many any does it like so effortlessly No, yeah, like no doubt field goals as soon as it touches his toe It's like we're down the middle all that to do is get to the 75

Yeah, all they have to do is get to the 40 yard line. It's three points This is really deflating though because when the Bucks stopped them right there on third down It's like we're about to fucking win the game. Yeah, we're gonna make Mike Evans get ten more yards If you got 11 Luke Blutman was one yard away from a ten leg parlay whatever it's the whole the whole night sucked It was bad. All right, it's great. Well, you should feel bad. You know, this is horrible It's a neat little shovel pass by Baker there at the end, right? so feel bad. You know, this is horrible. It's a neat little shovel pass by Baker though at the end, right? So that play I was thinking it in real life. The Bucks tweeted out from their official account 25 years ago this week. It was Bucks

fan. Super Bucks fans probably don't remember this. There's a play on Monday Night Football, Sean King to Warwick Dunn where he's getting dragged around by his jersey, shelves it to Warwick Dunn. He gets like 20 yards in a first first or no work done shovels at to Sean King He goes out of bounds get gets clocked 15 yards They go on to win that game because of that play was 25 years ago this week That was a very similar play and then I'm just freaking out because he's about to get sacked It's a great yes forward and then all of a sudden I'm seeing a guy and the Cowboys run to the ends

Like what the fuck just happened? Unfortunately, very clear that it was a fumble. Yeah, Rashad white should probably have gone high and tight there Tough situation, but yes, I mean he was holding it loose and then he did bring it in but he got stripped I mean the cowboys the cowboys if they're gonna play lights out special teams and just Get three every time they cross midfield and they're They got four takeaways. I think tonight like that. That's a tough situation for us to win it. Yeah, okay Thank you, Stephen. Thanks Jay good recap It's brutal

It's over hey Jay, I'll beat the Falcons for you You got it Oh, there'd be better than you better inning better. I always want to win. I'd rather win. That's just me. Yeah, no, that's stupid. Okay. Next up Panthers. Hey, that's that sucked. We're stupid. Panthers 36 Cardinals 30. I don't really have anything for this game other than well the Cardinals are officially eliminated. The Panthers it's crazy to say because the Cardinals were six and four going into the bye week and they're one and four after that. They look they were top of the NFC West. They play the Panthers today and this might just be way too knee-jerk but I think I'm buying

more Panther stock than Cardinals stock going forward. So do you think Jonathan Gannon's safe? I don't know. Is Callum Murray the franchise quarterback? So they had I think they had seven penalties in the first quarter. The Cardinals have stunk recently. I mean James Connor getting hurt did fuck things up because he was going off and he had 111 yards in the first half. But I don't Kyler Murray, like I know he has incredible plays, but I don't know if I feel so confident about him just going forward. I don't know. So he's now eight and 14 in December. So it's and that was like a Cliff Kingsbury statue.

Yeah, so might be. I don't know. But yeah, Murray has not looked good at all the last couple weeks. And yeah, Bryce Young, you know what I'm amazed by his touch passes now. Yeah, because he had absolutely no feel for the football. Oh, nice. So like a month ago, we're pulling up the trade right now. I'd still rather have all those picks on that side. I just and I think that Caleb Williams is better than Bryce Young. It was a topic of conversation today

So got it. Maybe who was having the conversation? Barsal sports Twitter. Okay, would you rather have Bryce Young or DJ more? Darn, I'll write Caleb will I restart? No, right? I'll tire she was and did kind of that is a sliding doors moment I'm sorry, start now right on Tarik Stevenson did kind of that is a sliding doors moment Yeah, I'd still rather have rather take Caleb you because we're probably gonna get a future Hall of Famer with the second round Pick this year. There you go. Yeah Did you want to do you want to have this be a topic conversation right now? I don't know you you like to have topics of conversation I we can but just you you passively pulling it up like say something with your chest buddy.

It's not my show. Say something with your chest. It's not my show. Don't just put stuff up on the computer. You can make a decision if you talk about it or not. No, say it with your chest. Let's go. I'm just saying.

Say it then. I wanted you to say it. No, no, no. People don't want to... You don't care about what I have to say about it. You say it. They care about what you have to say about you say you have to say I would still rather have the bear side of this trade. There you go. What would you rather have because you pulled it up probably. We don't understand or listen to the podcast.

There's a computer monitor right in front of me and PFT and Maxwell sometimes scroll like Sydney Sweeney tits just out of nowhere. He as we started the Panthers recap He just went and scrolled and pulled up the Panthers Bears trade, but then didn't say anything as passive aggressive as it gets What do you think about this Max? I think that I would probably still rather be on the bear side, but It's it's a discussion that was that way now the biggest haul. It's's a discussion Yes, because you're making it the discussion right now. I didn't make this discussion Barstow sports main account tweeted what a great trade for the Panthers with the trade and I got yeah Thousand likes on Twitter. Well, oh no shit. Lol bears gets instant memes back me up here discussion numbers

Any dunk on the Bears? Stevenson thing is wild yeah that part is that parts hurts that that is that is a sliding door moment I I still am going to take Kale Williams over Bryce Young going forward I'd still I am impressed with Bryce Young and what he's done and I do think the Panthers have a quarterback going forward I think which is crazy I'm kind of impressed with Kanellis yeah big time I mean Bryce Young. He was dropping dimes. I'm impressed with David Tepper But memes back me up if you post anything that's lol bears. It's instant

Oh, it's like instant just spawns. Yeah. All right good good topic of conversation Good producing max. Well next time when you produce actually say it and I can't interrupt your conversation Yes, you can can't do that. Okay never is this the the Panthers have Wait, so it's since Bryce came back. They're almost 500 since Bryce came back They are there three and four since the bye week and three of their four losses were by one possession to division leaders, although I guess the Bucks aren't division leaders anymore, um But yeah, they're playing good ball and they're they're building something and it feels like their future

Which was nothing You know a like a month and a half ago is actually something now I think Bryce Young is the starter next year. Dave Canales has proven that he's a good coach because he took a horrific situation and has made them a competitive football team. And yeah, I think the Panthers like they're also playing in a division that no one's no one's incredible right now. I think they're going to win one of these next two. I think they're going to be either. Yeah, I think they're going to be spoilers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think they're gonna be spoilers. Yeah, absolutely

Yeah, I'm impressed with the Panthers. Yeah, I Think price young is good. They're probably they're the one I'd still I'd still take Caleb Williams Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys? I can say both things what would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys? The Cowboys or no the Panthers because the Cowboys beat the Panthers beat the shit out of the badgers But that was also the Panthers being favorites, which wasn't fair to the Panthers. That's not the Panthers. Mm-hmm They should have done that that was actually very mean to the Panthers. Yeah, I think they're they're primed for spoiler season right now Yeah, and then the Cardinals are dead and I don't really know what their future is. I don't know see I don't know Sticks around future stock. Yeah right now. I

Would buy the Panthers stock over the Cardinals stock that's crazy to say maybe maybe maybe it's too in the moment would you buy it you buy the Panthers Panthers over the Cardinals under done yeah going forward which is nuts because if you said that to me if you said that someone six weeks ago you said that to someone six weeks ago, you'd be like, what are you talking about? Are you crazy? I don't know. It's close.

It's close for me. I just don't, I kind of, I mean, it's the two short Kings and I've, we've seen a lot of Kyler Murray. The Kyler is thicker. There's some great flashes. I don't know. Maybe it's, I take Kyler September, October, November, Bryce in December.

And I know that this Cardinals roster isn't stacked and it's not all on Kyler, but if you're paying him that much money in your six and four, he feels like, and especially the fact that he's been in the league for, I think, what is this his fifth year, six year? Like this felt like a stretch that Kyler could have ascended a little bit and carried the pants the Cardinals to a playoff spot and they just fallen on their face is uh is Marvin Harrison jr. awesome I don't know I don't know if he

is or not yeah I'm not sure he hasn't really you'd like to see a little bit more out of Marvin you'd probably like to see a little bit more of Marvin Harrison jr. but yeah if if Connor doesn't get hurt, I mean this game went to overtime Yeah, so it's not like the the Panthers are leaps and bounds ahead of the card. No agreed So it was a close game. You were down you're starting running back one of your best players But the Panthers also did come out to a pretty big lead Yeah, it just seems like things have not they haven't gone well recently for the card. Yeah, wait where They were six and four going to the bye week and I was like they're impressing me turns out

They had just beaten the Bears and the Jets and I think the Patriots how much that should have been the sign How much time do you think is gonna be spent on Arizona Sports Talk Radio talking about Gannon and whether or not he should stick around I Think it's me about Kyler You think so? Yeah, I mean again is only on year two. Yeah, so I think he's probably gonna have And I mean they are better than they were year one What they finished last year was they were very mean they were they were picking what fourth? So they were pretty bad last year

So they're definitely they've gone in the right direction if you want to go wins and losses overall Yeah, we're on the season, but recently it feels like it's been a lot worse. Yeah, I don't I I think he probably is okay I'm just saying more as Kyler is you like you're this is the guy For the future maybe I don't know I I have no idea I can't I feel like we're six years into Kyler and I still don't know Yeah, there's sometimes I'm like, oh my god, there's no one like him and there's some things like what's that that interception he threw? In the they got the with like three and a half minutes left. They got the ball back, but that was so bad I also think he throws some of the saddest interceptions. Yeah, he is very down on himself right after he throws. Yeah. Yeah

Okay last early game Falcons 34 giants, seven Michael Penick's instant offense. First time Atlanta put up 30 points since October. Huge offensive explosion. Yeah. Going by points. Yeah. Two pick sixes is how that happened. Uh, this is, uh, it's more about, I mean, Michael Penick's is actually not bad He I feel like the Falcons offense worked better. They're better. It felt like they were better on third down It felt like they were pushing the ball further. He he was more mobile I know he threw a pick but it was not his fault. It's Kyle Pitts like basically bobbling the ball into everyone else And it felt like Bijon had more lanes because Michael Penick's, the threat of Michael Penick's was was a lot more than Kirk has been in

the last few weeks. Yeah, they couldn't just count on him to box himself in the pocket. Right. So did you see the clip of of Mr. Mara? I did. Reacting to the very mean graphic that they showed about the Giants? Yes. I didn't realize because the Giants are a historic franchise. They've been around for forever. And this season, even amongst recent bad Giants seasons has stood out as being, it can't, it can't get any worse than this. Correct. This is the first time they've ever had 10 losses in a row. First time ever 10 losses in a row. Everything looks just bad about the future of the franchise. And then you're looking forward to week 18 where Philly comes in and Saquon potentially sets the NFL rushing record in your home stadium as like the ultimate nightmare.

But the good news for the Giants is you are now drafting first overall. Yes. And Chidor Sanders is on the clock potentially. He's ready to go. Or Cam Ward or somebody else who's really good. But yeah, that that clip where mr. Mara saw him I think he saw himself on Whatever screen he was looking at up in the suite and he got pissed off at Fox broadcasters My prediction is that the leagues network partners are gonna be told under no circumstances show mr. Mara during a broadcast anymore Yes, they'll get a letter from that There was also a report this week that Brian Dable might be fired, but Joe Shane might keep his job, which makes no sense.

To me, that's the opposite of what they should do. Yeah, I agree. They're on the same timeline, but that makes no sense. I don't know who leaked that. Joe Shane. How do you say his last name? Shane? Shane? Shane? Shane? Anybody watch Hard Knocks? No. Joe Shane how you say his last name shown shot showing shown Shane

Anybody watch hard knocks that no, I mean I've seen that clip a million times He is so the Giants have been outscored 140 to 59 Since he famously said they're not far off Which is five weeks ago? They're they're the worst team the NFL would we all agree mm-hmm I don't think that's up for debate anymore I would agree with that they're the worst team the NFL and it's like it's pretty clear that they're the worst team because I actually think they probably would have won it they

actually probably did it correctly by getting rid of Daniel Jones because they might have won a couple of these games with Daniel Jones and now they are going to get the one pick and they're going to get to pick their new quarterback. So the the graphic they showed the worst outright record of the NFL it's been since 1966 that Giants had that. Winless at home since 1974. Winless versus the Vision never.

That still remains to be seen though. And then the last time they had the number one overall draft pick was 1965. Wow. It's been a long time. I think that it was the right move to get Daniel Jones out of there. He definitely would have won one of these. But it's also hard to watch the Giants now if you're a Giants fan. Oh yeah.

It's very hard. They're a brutal watch. You definitely want to lose at this point you want the number one overall pick Yeah, that's worth a lot, but at what cost you have to watch alternating Tommy cutlets and it's only two more weeks lock Yeah, it's two more weeks. Just I'm in a similar boat where it's two more weeks Just get it get it over with two more weeks one of those could be meaningless Eagles game, too Which would be so funny if they want if they won that one Oh, wow, that would actually be the meat that would be the meanest thing Wow if the Eagles beat the Cowboys next week they lock in the two seed but

by the Giants and I think they're Their strength is schedule. Oh, yeah, they're strength schedules So they would they would they would screw themselves if they if they won a game they have to lose out have to lose out so they could go if they win a game they could potentially go all the way down to six so what could happen is they win a meaningless game against the Eagles and then Hank gets the number one overall pick that's interesting Travis Hunter and also that strength of schedule would be the Eagles are going to raise that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So they got to lose out. So there's actually a good thing that they are. They suck so bad and incredible day for the Falcons. They went, they're back controlling their own destiny. Michael Pennex looked decent in his first start. You got him a first start against the Giants.

So it's not like he has to go on the road for his first NFL start now he gets to you know you get to prove it Sunday football pretty big stage for him but Falcons defense playing a little bit better they also I don't know how the Falcons always do this but I become obsessed with them just because of where their players are drafted they were the first team in 40 plus years to have a top eight pick at QB wide receiver tight end and running back it's wild and their tight end is I mean Kyle Pitts is just not good. Kyle Pitts dropping that yeah that was a that was a bad bad drop for him but he might get unlocked but Michael Pennix. Is Drake London. Okay, I don't know

I think he had a hamstring at the end of the game So he might not be also I'd like to say that Malik neighbors putting up these type of numbers Considering who he's had thrown on the wall this year. It's impressive. We should not underestimate how good Malik neighbors is agreed He's he's very very good. You know, he's the king of like checking himself out for a couple plays Might be hurt coming back in but But now he gets your centers. Yeah. I mean, Kyle Pitts, that that interception Michael Pennix technically through Kyle Pitts through the interception. He threw it to him. Yeah, you're right though. Malik neighbors and Tyrone Tracy is really good. That touchdown he had the body control to get those feet in bounds. Yep. Was insane.

So yeah, they got a couple of pieces. Desh Lawrence will be back. Maybe you get, yeah, you just need a quarterback. Yeah. Sure, Sanders, right there. All right, Piaf, do you want to do a couple more ads before we get to the afternoon games? Yeah, before we get to the afternoon slate brought to you by our great friends over at Experian. Experian, for all the AWOs who really know us, you know how responsible we are with our money. The secret reason we have so much to gamble is because Experian helps us save money across our other purchases. League rights are getting out of hand. We have to subscribe to way too many streaming services so we can watch every key game and keep our listeners informed with our hard-hitting analysis.

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so the dolphin get to the playoffs, they're going to the NFC championship game. If they, if they're not going to the NFC championship game, they're just not going to the playoffs. And so the dolphins are technically still alive. Yeah. Right. That is. So what are the, what are the dolphins? How do dolphins have like that mean memes liked it He's thinking about it hard. He's really thinking it through. It's going almost the same with the Jets Yeah, that's why you almost you could say that for the Jets The last 16 years. Yeah that they either go to the AFC Championship game or don't go to the playoffs That's actually nice. Yeah, AFC championship game or have a losing season, too

Okay, yeah, you go. Yeah, that's it. That's even crazier now the difference being that the Niners have been to like five NFC championship games Yeah, they're better than us yeah, so better than yeah, I mean they're I'm with you They're better. So for the Dolphins to get in they need to beat the Browns they need to beat the Jets and then they need to have some help from the Chargers the Broncos and the Colts. That was way too much shit. You just said they got a win That was you just said like they need like five people to help them They got a win and they need they need the Chargers and Broncos to lose a lot and the Colts to lose

Here's maybe one lost by the Jaguars. I Don't know why they need the Jaguars. I don't know they need the Colts to lose to the Jaguars either the Giants That's too much. That's that's that's one of those when we get do the playoff iterations If you need three teams to help you, I'm out. I don't like, let me know when it's, when you get it down to one team to help you. Yeah. But Tyree kills back. Yeah. They found him. Why Mike, but Daniel doesn't need to wear those glasses, especially when they're not good. Yeah. It's, it's a weird look when he's cold. Yeah. And it just, I, I don't know. I feel like those are, those are, we're scoring 50 points on the opponents.

We're 10 and four glasses. Not we're fighting for our lives and we need whatever you just said, all the things that you said that need to happen, glasses. He's just, he is too far into we gotta believe mode. Yeah. Sometimes it's okay to stop believing. Yeah, sometimes it's okay to stop believing Yeah, sometimes okay to give up journey said that it's actually really fun to give up

It's fun to give up and just be like Just give up. It's never gonna get better. Why don't you just play well so that you have The ability to look back at what you just accomplished with pride. Yeah, be like we won this game not because it means anything Here's here's the difference like the look at Hank He's happy look at memes relatively happy I'm relatively fine Max has a has the best chance on this on this entire podcast to win a Super Bowl and today pissed Him off. He's miserable when you come into Sundays with no expectations and no hopes and no dreams and and no future You can't really get hurt

Especially if you're looking at the draft yeah, I can't get hurt I'm gonna get so hurt You're gonna get so hurt Join us No That was a cute no no I mean there's something to that. Not having any expectations whatsoever. Can't get hurt. Yeah. Can't get hurt.

So the Dolphins should just not try to do this. You're going to hurt people. Yeah. Give up. Yeah. What's going to happen is you're going to win maybe next week and then they play next week. So I just had it up here a second ago.

How many teams? Well, they got to win out. Let's start with that. They have to win out. They have to win out. They gotta win out. They can beat the Browns next week. Yeah, they can beat the Browns. So what's gonna probably happen next week is you're gonna beat the Browns and then you're

gonna get mad because the other three or four teams that didn't have to help you out all helped you out. Yeah. You're gonna be like, God damn it, I can't believe that the Chargers beat the Patriots. Right. And then you're gonna be pissed. Oh, so they will win out. Most likely. But if I home memes stop if they beat the Browns gets cold in New York and then the Chargers true if the Chargers beat the Patriots

next week then they're done yes so you're gonna you're gonna put all this work in you're gonna look through all the scenarios if you're Dolphins fan you're gonna take care of your business and then you get super pissed off Patriots Chargers this Saturday at least Okay, there you go. They'll figure it out. All right Now I guess we just turn because the nut and the Niners have been eliminated season from hell How much we paying Brock Purdy?

Gotta pay him. I'm an alumni paying him 50 Paying him 50 by the way shout out to Brock Purdy they did the whole like look at what these QB's gave to their offensive linemen last week and he gave out what did he pass out of something awesome there were trucks they're all trucks and it was a thousand percent an ad this is what I've noticed is like with Mahomes is one too they took like glamour shots of the pictures I think they're all ads no not Joe Burrows katanas or not. I was not ads. Those were sick great gift. So the lineman wanted guns

Yeah, he's like I'm not gonna get you guns. You brought swords to a gunfight. Does Cooper Rush have to get the gift He should yeah, or just Dak still I mean Dak got a heart. Yeah Yeah, no, yeah, he got them Toyota Tundras or something and they were like Everyone's like oh my god. He can't how can he afford this? It's like well one he he still gets paid a decent salary and he also has a lot of endorsements and to it's an ad It's an ad yeah, these are all ads now I don't like that we've we've turned this into the ad season. Not the Katanas.

Not the Katanas. And they're worse trucks than Chevy Silverados. That's for sure. That's a fact. I got you a death box. Yeah. You probably killed his offensive lineman. Oh, we should get our offensive line Chevy Silverados.

Yeah. Chevy. Let's do that ad next year. They have a wheelchair ramp? Yeah, we'll get memes, Max, Shane, Pug. Ugh, you're a... What? The wheelchair ramp thing? The whole wheelchair thing. I come back, I was so pissed off at PFC.

He's like, I got you this really expensive wheelchair. Can you just like roll around in it please? Is it not sweet? The chat really... I'm literally never... I'm walking. I'm walking. You might have to have surgery. You keep saying that like you want me to have surgery. Is it not sweet the chat really I'm literally never I'm walking I'm walking You might have to have surgery you keep saying that like you want me to have sir I don't want you have surgery, but at least if you do you got me I'm not gonna need sir wait so you were you just came back

And he had just put a wheelchair out in the middle and didn't say anything No, no kind of like you the fucking Panthers Bears thing in the middle of our conversation. That's not true the wheelchair arrived I ordered it to max I ordered that's really nice of you. Thank you The second I found out that my boy max had a broken foot that was huge without knowing the diagnosis So let's not act like I did this after knowing that you'd be fine max I thought I thought the worst I think maybe you'd never walk again I ordered a motorized wheelchair with a joystick. So you were If you don't need it, guess what we can we can use it for other stuff around the oh no

That's just a toy for the office. You just didn't like that He what you were you had lost and he was like, here's a wheelchair go be my monkey. Correct. Got it. That's fair Yeah, yeah, that's there. I it. That's fair. Yeah. Were you in the cave? I said that again. No, I was upstairs. No, I said those exact words. U.S. fighter jet accidentally shot down.

Fine, I'll be your monkey and I just got it. And then you did? Yeah, of course. You gotta stand up for yourself. Well, you can't. No, I always have to. Because of your broken foot. No, I can stand now.

I'm basically walking. Basically walking. I'm not even bringing crutches at the home for home for Christmas Wow Is that a good idea great idea? What about the wheelchair? No wheelchair either why don't you bring a wheelchair about the wedding? I'm going to the wedding What about when you go to the Eagles game? Going to the Eagles game are you gonna bring a wheelchair? No, I'm gonna be walking. It's gonna be sore You're gonna try to get big Dom to carry you

Yeah, you are you're gonna ask big Dom to carry you. Yeah, you are. You're gonna ask big Dom to carry and he will cause he's that type of guy. I'm gonna be walking. I'm good. It like barely hurts now. Oh, okay. All right. Vikings 27 Seahawks 24. Oh, I had Jake Moody sucks. They, I think they use a third pick on him or third round pick on him. Did that? Yeah. he sucks He just misses kicks and Jason Sanders good Viking 37 Seahawks 24 Sam Darnold, baby that was a He got hammered on that play before he threw the game winning touchdown to Justin Jefferson

Mm-hmm. It was I think he got his leg and he also got face masks. They did call the face mask He just stepped up there and did next play Dart to Justin Jefferson Sam Donald. He's a fucking he's just good at football Jefferson got penalized for gritty well making eye contact. Yeah, I thought the gritty was okay I thought that had been established like case law and the NFL you can't do the icon But you can't look at another man in the eye while you're gritting through the flag. Can't do eye contact. I didn't like that.

One thing I also, I actually can't figure out if I like this or didn't. Maybe you can help me figure it out. Jason Myers, kicker for the Seahawks, trying a 60 yard fuel goal. I believe one minute, 57 seconds left in the fourth quarter. He missed the 60 yarder. Right afterwards, the camera caught one of his own lineman jogging

past him. sack tapped him. Oh, hit him in the nuts. I think I like that after he missed the kick. Can you try to pull that that video up? I think I like that. And here's why. Let's look at sack tap. Jason Myers. I think that I think you you basically give him something else to think about in that moment. You know, I'm saying, boom, yeah, his own boy got him I think you you basically give him something else to think about in that moment You know I'm saying boom. Yeah his homeboy got him like that's good Cuz like you see the you're thinking about the kick you're like man. That sucks. I can't believe I missed that He's like here think about me sack tapping. I think that was a plotline in Major League two

I feel like their catcher. Yeah got kicked in the balls tracked him by by a donkey Yeah, and like his grandmother died. You think about his balls hurting so much. Yeah, that's exactly what just happened. That's good. The Vikings control their own destiny for the one seed. Has not been talked about enough. They're just really good at football.

Sam Darle is just really good at football. Their defense is just really good at football. Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the year. He is now 25 and 9 in one possession games, which is second best in NFL history for a head coach. He should be coach of the year for what he's done with his team and for what he's done with Sam Darnold. And they are a serious threat in the playoffs, especially if they get that one seed. I feel like there's going to be a lot of casual NFL fans who if the Vikings win out, they'll be like, wait, what the hell? I thought the Lions had the one seed. Yeah, but they play the Lions. Yeah, right. And I mean,

they have a big game against the Packers who they've already beaten, but that will be a tough game. But yeah, the Vikings are just, and Justin Jefferson is it's just a Jefferson or Jamar Chase depending on, you know, they're both just the best receiver. Is that okay to say? Can I just say that? Can we just, can we make that an official declaration? Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the best receiver in the NFL and Malik neighbors is the best rookie receiver.

Brian Thomas and Brian Thomas. Pretty good to graphic. Yeah, LSU. Yeah, LSU makes good receivers. So what's going on with the Seahawks offense? Time to have a conversation about Ryan Grubb. I just I don't I don't know if it's the Seahawks offense. Well, they couldn't run it. They couldn't run the ball. They don't try to run the ball. They tried but but no, not really. Not really. They, they didn't really try. Well, they also got down. They got down in the game pretty quickly. Um, I mean they were down 17 to 14 at halftime. Yeah. And well that they scored to make it

17, 14 like they were down 17, seven, even in the second half, they never tried to run the football. That's the thing about the Seahawks every week. They say, you know what? We're down 17 seven even in the second half. They never try to run the football. That's the thing about the Seahawks every week They say you know what we're gonna recommit to the run to run it where we've learned our lesson We're gonna establish the run We're gonna go out there put our heads down and we're gonna play off the run game and then we can go and play action And they never fucking do it. They never even try to establish the run Yeah, they don't try and I feel like we've had that same conversation about the Seahawks for years. Yeah, I don't know I mean, it's Walker's been banged up a bunch, but yeah, it's,

I don't, I also just don't know what to think of Gino Smith because he is at times great. And then he just tries to throw picks half the time as well. I also think that if you at least tried to run the football, then you could do play action. And then Gino Smith wouldn't be doing these things where he's like sprinting away from five guys throwing off his back foot well closing his eyes and saying a prayer getting picked off. Yeah that happens a lot for the Seahawks. Happens a lot a lot. Yeah.

Memes did you like the three-way Jets quarterback thing that was going on? Yeah Fox is just highlighting that the Jets are a QB factory and we know how to develop quarterbacks so they have success elsewhere Yeah, so Mark Sanchez is calling a game With Gino Smith and Sam Darnold all first-round Jets quarterbacks Or was Gino first-rounder? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I don't know what to I think Gino's good. I think he's fine But then I think he's bad Gino would be a good bridge quarterback for the Jets he would be to maybe get to maybe jump off that bridge no kid get Gino as a bridge quarterback and then sign Sam Donald as your long-term

option yeah I'll take Sam back just there's a lot of you there was a lot of Sam discourse I don't know if you want. Just every time a guy like sucks and then. We just remember that coaching matters so so goddamn much. Kevin O'Connell is just a really good coach. Coach of the year. Yeah now Sam Darnwood suck on the Jets. Yeah he'd suck it. He'd suck in a lot of other places. Kevin O'Connell is a great coach and they have great receivers. It is the perfect landing spot for a quarterback right now. Yeah. Um, okay.

Hank, welcome back. Bill's 24, Patriots 21. Good game. Did Gerard Mayo save his job with that first quarter? Maybe. Hopefully not. Well, your quarterback disagrees with you. Oh yeah. I like this. I like this. I like this column from Drake. So Drake may said that he's had enough of the BS that there's a mutiny going on that

they don't want Mayo back. They want Mayo, but except for Hank, Hank doesn't want Mayo. What did he say? Is that exactly what he said? I think that was exactly what he said? I think that was exactly what he said. I think he was more backing up his coach was a sign of a good leader. It's maturity. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. I like the, Jared Mayo did the fake punt. Fake punt was good. Drake made it through a couple dimes. Patriots were frisky. Patriots had a lead. Okay, here's what he said. On the na- this is him speaking on the negative dialogue surrounding the coaching staff

Stuff like that. I think it's some BS to be quite honest coach Mayo. Like I said, we've got his back I think we're building something good. I'm proud to be a patriot Yeah, so he doesn't say I want Mayo, but he's he had his back which is respectable Well, he was referring to the negative dialogue surrounding coaching staff as as being some bullshit Yeah, yeah, it's having his coaches back. That's again, sign of a leader commendable. He played pretty good. He had the touchdown pass in the first quarter was an absolute dot, but they lost obviously when there's a lot of bad teams and you know, the draft. That's a good law. You win. You win a game. You can you can drop like six spots and that

was a good loss. That was a good loss. How about how about Drake may be in the best scrambling quarterback ever. Yeah, that's great. Perfect. It was a great graph for you. Huge graph and the Bills had their like let down spot after a huge win against the Lions and still won because that was they didn't look good. I mean their defense got bullied in the first quarter. They did kind of bow up in the second half getting forcing three turnovers. Then the backwards pass was kind of all she wrote for that game. Josh didn't play great. He also banged up. He banged his funny bone. James Cook though. James Cook is a weapon. He's awesome. Mm-hmm, and I also liked I like Jordan Phillips

Did you guys see that on the bills? He wore a full coat under his uniform to warm up You learn you learn from the Tennessee volunteers. Yeah, I mean it I still don't understand why those why guys do that It makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's actually bad for you to warm up without a shirt on you do look cool as hell though Yeah, but he doesn't do anything for like the tough Intimidation yeah, it feels like you're just trying to prove it to yourself. Yeah, it looks yeah You kind of are yeah, because it looks sweet, but the minute you do that. I'm like you're gonna lose Cuz you're just trying to do it to yourself and you that mean you guys went tarps off at Buffalo It was cold. Yeah, because you were like hey, let's take a picture you fat fucks in the in the snow

We're like, hey, let's take a picture you fat fucks in the in the snow And we're like, okay Sick picture the thing is if you have to prove it to yourself We put our shirts back on two seconds later if and then went sat in a suite if you're trying You're trying to prove to yourself that you're not cold by taking your shirt off. You're actually admitting that it does affect Yeah, you're it's in your head. Cool. It's already one. Yeah, it's also like they make clothes for a reason That's true. It keeps you warm. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, you can wear like warm clothes and stay warm Yeah, I you have anything else this game. No good. Good loss for Hank. Good loss. Good win for Buffalo. Yeah It was weird seeing them wearing the Patriots uniforms

Yeah, yeah Buffalo. Yeah. It was weird seeing them wearing the Patriots uniforms. Yeah. Yeah. That was a little trash. Like there were several times when actually I think Drake may launched a bomb downfield. It got picked off. But then I thought that it was a Patriot receiver that caught it. Yeah. Even though the other uniform, it was, it was a mind fuck. I didn't like it. What do you have in your, what is that? access play with dolls You play with dolls. I'm at the 80 D portion. Oh, yeah. All right, Chuckie thing I've been scaring memes with it. Well, we have one last game. Don't look at the light. We have Raiders 19 Jaguars 14 and We have a special announcement. Okay breaking moves

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Created the pop tarts trophy that is actually a toaster as well. I can't wait Okay, I think that's the best Raiders Jaguars Recap could ever have just getting to see the awesome pop tarts trophy is incredible also Brian Thomas jr. Very very good. Yeah, and the Raiders screwed themselves in the draft. I think that might be the worst win of the season. Yeah, I'd agree. They went from the first pick in the draft to the sixth. That's crazy.

And they need a quarterback. Worst win of the season by far. That might, I don't know, Jacksonville, Tennessee, whoever wins that game, that might be the worst one. That could be very bad. the worst that could be very bad Yeah, that could be very because you're in the same division Implications. Yeah, I mean although Jacksonville doesn't need a quarterback, but yeah, that's that the Raiders need a quarterback Yeah, and they won that game. This is a must-lose

Yeah, also Brock powers continues to be incredible because he is 10 yards away from dick is rookie record And he also is the first rookie tight end to have over 100 receptions. He's awesome. It's what happens when you have two good of a coordinator. Yeah, Scott Turner. Yeah. He's Yeah, that's exactly what we got to update on his dogs. Did we say the update on the air? We did not. Okay, so his dog is a Rottweiler, right? And then his parents dog, is it a dachshund? Yeah, small dog. So we were right on the half of dog. Is it a dachshund? Yeah small dog So we were right on the half of it. We were right on the on his dad being a small dog guy Yeah, but he's not a small dog guy rottweiler. Yeah, man dog

Also great offensive coordinator because he has not been dealt the best hands. No, but it'll come not not so bad No, but again, you'd rather he might be too good. He might be too good. You might might go back to Desmond Ritter. See what you can do with him. Yeah. Okay. Let me ask a robot question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off first purchase q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code

take. Do you guys want to talk a little college football because we're not gonna have a show on Wednesday? Yeah, let's a robot question. How daunted are you? What Hank no, I'll let you guys go. I got some I know let's hear what that's some go ahead. Let's hear it Go ahead you're gonna be so miserable and what you're about to say no I go ahead If all week long It's gonna be the greatest weekend of football, the greatest weekend of football, college football, like you don't watch college football, how can you not watch college football?

Wait, I said this was going to be the greatest weekend of football? Many people were saying that. Okay. It was terrible. It was basically, it was essentially like, reminded me of week one. When you're playing random other teams from other conferences and it just blowouts no good games, not exciting whatsoever Just trash. Yeah, it was a bad first round bad football. It was a bad first round. I

College football is is the only sport that I think that people are more obsessed with arguing online than actually watching the games Because we had just the whole you know,, Indiana loses, Indiana shouldn't be in, uh, by the way, Kurt Signati biggest coward pussy of all time. That's a bad punt. You should disavow. That was, that was the most onto, but you know what? I disavowed that punt. You can't talk shit like he talks shit on game day being like, whenever we play a 20

top 25 team, we beat the shit out of them and then punt down 20 points, 20 plus points on midfield. Like what a pussy. He has mastered the art of losing to like way, way, way, way, way better teams. And then having the final score make it look like Indiana was still kind of in the game. Yeah. He was literally playing for resume. Like Indiana fans, Indiana fans at the end of the weekend were like, we actually lost by the least amount. It's like we watched that game. That is that game was never close. You were never in that game.

Uh, also I, I think you shouldn't like Kurt Cignetti. Okay. So he's going to, he, he's going to take more of your players this year. I'll, I'll explain why I root for Kurt Cignetti this year. It's because at this point I have to accept reality. I can fight reality or I can I can I can deal with it. Jamie is a stepping stone school. We might as well be the best stepping stone school so we get the best coaches that want to coach for us. But still he took your whole team.

He's going to take more of your guys this year. I'd hate I'd hate that. He might like that be a bullshit thing. It was a it was a pussy punt insane punt. It was crazy. Listen if you don't talk like Kurt's igniting talks whatever you can be like hey we're the game's over we we were just going to get our ass. We're never going to get it. It's fine. It would still be a pussy punt but it'd be like whatever he talks so much shit and then he does that mm-hmm that was crazy to me but either way Hank back to your point uh yes the game sucked it is the first year of a 12-team playoff I think the seeding obviously was a was a flaw in the system that they'll figure out it should have been Boise State and Arizona State should have been playing this weekend. That's what like that should have happened.

You know a team like Penn State should have had a buy. You know Texas should have had a buy. They should have done the buys based on the four highest ranked teams or whatever it would have been. I don't know if it would have been would have been Notre Dame and Penn State. Either way, they obviously have to figure out the seating stuff. Here's my counterpoint to anyone who's complaining about how the first round went because people again, college football fans, there's a whole group of them that would rather complain online and do the debates and like SEC hypotheticals where the SEC has never lost a hypothetical. Like all Friday night

it was like Alabama would have been better in this spot. Then you didn't hear them when Tennessee got boat raced by Ohio state. They kind of went away when you heard that when when the when the two win team from the SEC got absolutely smoked by the big 10 the team that beat Alabama. Right. Yeah. Right. Got smoked and then Alabama lost to Oklahoma. Yeah. A shitty team. Correct. And then Ole Miss you lose to Kentucky. Right. Another shitty team. You don't know. But yeah, no, they are right in that if you're an SEC school, a fan of an SEC school, you can just straight up say like, SEC is the best conference. We would have done better than that. Yeah. They, they've never, they're undefeated in hypotheticals. So

Obviously the game I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend that the games were good. They were not good I also think like you had Four teams playing home games that were better than the four teams that were coming into their home stadium So I wasn't totally shocked. I mean, the closest point spread was seven points. Mike, my, my pushback on anyone who's like, this doesn't work. Blow it all up again. First of all, that's insane. It's the first year. Second, what would be the alternative that you would rather have? Would you rather have Ohio state and Tennessee playing in the peach bowl? That doesn't mean anything that has 30 guys on each side opting

out and transferring because that's what we did have. We had guys opting out of the row of the Rose Bowl three years ago. It was bad football but it was still they were meaningful that it was also mean it means something because they're going to the next round and you get to look at the brackets and who moves on and what those next matchups are going to be like and then that's where you run into some real complaining. Like Ohio State by losing to Michigan, and credit to Ohio State, by the way. Oh, they were awesome. Because they played really, really well in a situation where like, we didn't know if

they were just going to have given up on the season. Correct. But they went out there and they just beat the fuck out of Tennessee. But you're also in a situation where Ohio State by losing that game to Michigan ended up creating a Great scenario for themselves in a bad scenario for Tennessee. Mm-hmm Although Tennessee would have had to play Indiana and Indiana lost by less to Ohio State. That's true. You have you look like you're just saying I Think Tennessee probably would beat Indiana probably

But Indiana did play better. I mean again again, they scored late because Kurt Signetti, that is what he does. Yeah, no, that was really good at that number one at at Signetti manufacturing a final score. Yeah. Ten point loss. Best loss of the weekend. But yeah, it was, it was not a great weekend of college football, but I don't think I think as soon as they figure out the seeding, which would be a lot better. So yeah, what would it be, Max? So it would be if you go off the AP and then you switch Bama and SMU, like let's just say they keep Bama and.

Well though you'd have to switch Clemson too. Correct. So it would have been Penn State, Clemson. Then it would have been Ohio State, SMU. That would have been an absolute route. But then it would have been Tennessee, Arizona State. That would be a fun game. Yep. Yep. And then Boise state, Indiana. I would have been a great, great game. Yeah. So I think if, if you go off of that, it should fix something like the five 12 kind of will look like it looked like a route again, but

it kind of should be like, yeah, that's exactly the point. Some of that fifth ranked team should beat the 12th ranked team. Most times, especially in their home place like yeah that's exactly the point some of that fifth ranked team should beat the 12th ranked team most times especially in their home place like that's that's just a fact and it's also not like college basketball right it's not never gonna be like that it's a different sport where if you have one program that has by far more talent it's not like you will find yourself looking into a road victory against that team as a vastly inferior opponent. That's not going to happen.

The other, the only other point I had, and this is where, you know, we are react, we react to these things in the moment and I get it because I do the same thing all the time. I'm way too reactionary with all this stuff. This weekend suck, but remember the college football playoff going to 12 teams in my opinion made this season so much more fun. Like we had weekends that didn't have, that would not have meant anything, mean something. Oklahoma beating Alabama meant something. Whereas in the 14 playoff, Alabama probably would have already been out. So this weekend suck, but like you have to take what, what the 12 team playoff is,

is not just this first weekend. It's everything that happened all season long that got us to this point. And it's also everything that's going to happen going forward where we have some really good, I mean, Penn state, Georgia is going to be a great matchup in my opinion. Or no, that's not no Notre Dame, Georgia, Penn State, Georgia is going to be a great matchup in my opinion. No, that's not, no, Notre Dame, Georgia, Notre Dame, Georgia is going to be a great matchup. I mean, we know Ohio State, Oregon is going to be a great matchup because we saw the game earlier. Again, the seeding part is kind of fucked up because they should have reseeded at least

this year where Oregon should have played Arizona State or Boise State because Oregon got screwed having to be the number one seed only undefeated team in the country and having to play Ohio State. But it's a it's a flawed first crack at it and I'm sure they'll fix it. Yeah. So if you were to go off of like the 12 it would have been Oregon would play the winner of Boise Boise State Indiana. Right. That makes more sense. Right. They got screwed. But that's going to be an awesome Rose Bowl. I mean, the best game is probably Texas Clemson. And that wasn't even that close. No, for a second, he thought, oh, Clemson, not as dead as I

thought they were. Yeah, they they came back in that game. And yeah, I also like the NFL playoffs suck sometimes too. Yeah, the first round first last year, I think, I'm stinks wasn't great. And again, Penn Penn States are really good football team. Notre Dame is a really good football team, Tennessee or Ohio state and in Texas are really good football teams. I expected them to win. I wish it was closer, but that's just kind of how it goes. Oh yeah. People are pointing how like last year was awesome. So they ruined it. So we still have this coming

Yeah, the semi finals are still two two rounds around away. Like we still have more chances for great games Yeah, I still think on a total on a whole We we had two great playoff games last year. I think we'll get more than two great playoff games this year Do you think people are gonna would be upset of a Penn State, Notre Dame, semi-final and then a Texas, Ohio State? Like that's good. Those are good games. Right.

Yeah. We're going to get there. And I hate about the appetizers. You haven't even ordered your entree. I'm not sleeping on Boise or Penn State's winning. No, I'm just saying like we're going to get games. Can we talk about that game real quick? Because that was, I did bet Penn State and it was based on the fact that that

Was the least big game of all time and that's why James Frankel was gonna dominate. Oh, yeah That wasn't a big game at all. It was like even like waking up Kevin Jennings got the minute he started throwing those pictures. Just like yeah, what is going on? Yeah, what was the mood like in the stadium? Did have big game feel oh, yeah It looks awesome was poppin all of my buddies were there my brother his wife were there I heard unbelievable things from within the stadium, but But that's also like I'm happy that we got that the people that were at that game that go to a bunch of games every year

Got a college football playoff. Yeah, and got to be there for it. Yeah, but when When what is his name Jennings? Yeah, I just had Ken Jennings Yeah, Ken Jennings like he did the thing where he put it He did the me where he put his hands over his ear Yeah, and then they had to call a timeout and then he immediately threw the pick six to Tony Rojas and it was like And then they had to call a timeout and then he immediately threw the pick six to Tony Rojas and it was like There's no way they were ever going to win that game. Penn State didn't even play well. They they had they did not play their best game at all. Yeah, they just smoked them

How about the uh, the big game environment inside the uh, the horseshoe? Pre-game the band on the field. Yeah that what what instrument was that lady playing where she just was like love it Hyperventil trying to senior going out that was that was I felt something. I was like this means more Yeah, also very funny where Penn State put SMU's band all the way up top Couldn't have been a worse like a worse section in the entire stadium. Yeah, so Hank Are you going to give the next round of college football shot? Yeah, I I mean, I'm going to give them a shot. I just, I, I, there's a lot. I love how we ended up, we lucked into a real Rose Bowl matchup. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. The Rose Bowl is going to be awesome.

And then you have Notre Dame and Georgia playing right after. Yeah. Like, and again, even if these games aren't close, I don't, I don't want to say it. Like that's sports. You can't want to say like that's sports. You can't, that's the beauty of sports. I don't know what's going to happen. You can't just say every time there's a blow up being like everything's broken, fix it. We had, do you remember when they went to the 14 playoff? I remember sitting and watching on, on new year's Eve that sucked. Alabama verse yes. First Washington was at Michigan State. There was a Michigan State one to the where they like didn't score any

points and it was it was brutal and then it slowly got you know it got better over years but like this is just a new system that they'll slowly figure out and I get it. There's probably only five teams realistically every year they could win a college football national championship I still like having more teams involved and you can have the chance of something special happening you know a single elimination tournament there probably will never be a Cinderella to win it all but I never expected that this I mean if you have teams that are loaded at the top with five star players And then you get like SMU going into Penn State that's always gonna happen

Yeah, but if you're if you're SMU at least you have that one week to be like you know what what if yeah? We could win the entire thing and if we and I mean and the game does mean something to it if we keep playing this I don't know 25 years There will be a 12 the beats of five like it will happen because that's just football and that's sports And it's weird like that. We used to have a computer pick the winner. Yeah, there would be a computer and be like, okay I'm gonna spit out a bunch of numbers. Oh, we have co-national champions this year Yeah, the two teams would play in separate bowl games and have a chance to win a national championship Yeah

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Henry who's back the week. Who's back the week is AWL Charlie Woods. Yeah congrats Charlie. Love that he hit his first hole in one. I think it's just in tournament play I'm sure he's probably has a bunch otherwise. I think he said it was his first Even better. Yeah hit a hole-in-one Him and so they always say him and tiger lost in the playoff

So they almost won the whole thing. Yeah fucked Bernard longer why is he old? Well, apparently you guys coming back from like an Achilles injury and he's hitting from the seniors T's I was crazy 67 years old gets an additional like 120 yards on every drive. Whose side are you on? I? Mean he's 67 years old. It's like so then don't play golf In a tournament like this he was sitting he literally walked like a hundred yards up to hit his tee shot Senior tees the one size there in front of that he's play you his tee shot senior tees the one's crazy there in front of that he's playing off in front of amateurs where yeah see me personally I'd have too much pride to

do that same I wouldn't hit from those tees same maybe I go one one ahead I did from the Blues also he's won the tournament like seven times in a row enough dude yeah well cuz he's got a system right this guy's a hustler We had Charlie would sick hole in one you got you thinking about it No, I was I was just his press conference afterwards was funny when he was like yeah You know I thought I'd seen my dad's best, but like this is actually the be actually played really well today We great Charlie said that yeah, that's funny tell tiger was like yeah used to be good like I can be good You know I have the ability to be a good golfer and Charlie almost nailed that putt to and on 18 Oh, I wanted it in so bad. We love Charlie Woods. He's our guy. You got it stolen away from him

Yeah, well moment taken away You just can't feel good if you're Bernard longer and you're hitting from the the sounds like 35 Yeah, it sounds like 35. Yeah, his son's like yeah Charlie's 16 years old and this guy's his son was in college like 10 years ago. He's like he's like a doctor Yeah, I didn't like that yeah, it's bullshit mm-hmm okay PFT I was gonna say Charlie Woods too, but I'll just say people talking about Ricky Henderson Yeah, because he passed away and it's sad because Ricky Henderson was such an awesome, awesome baseball player to watch.

All his base stealing records are just insane. The stats that you can look up and be like, oh, it takes somebody like 30 years stealing 70 bases a year to do what he did. And he played till he was old, but he was still really, really fast and he was great to watch. Best leadoff hitter of all time. Yep. But I'm just glad that people are talking about Ricky Henderson. Also the stories, whether it be the, he framed his million dollar signing bonus check when

he was a rookie or the famous John Ulrud story where he went up to John Ulrud and was like, hey, we used to have a guy who used to wear the helmet at first base Mm-hmm when I was on the Mets and John or was like yeah, dude. That was me. We were teammates Ricky. Yeah, so He was the best it said because he was what 65 years old. Yeah, he also was like one of the only guys so I feel like was Everyone was really was okay with him doing first person. Yeah. Like he just would say, Ricky thinks this and be like, yeah, that's cool.

He was like, he was a flashiest dude ever, but it matched up with watching him play. Yeah. So like, yeah, you can get away with anything that you want, Ricky. He was born on Christmas. That's cool. Yeah. So the flashy from day one. Yeah.

Yeah. A player could steal 60 bases a year for 22 straight years and Ricky Henderson would still have more stolen bases. Did he invent taking like actually taking the base? Ah, when he had a milestone stolen base where you just take it out of the ground? I don't know. This is my base now. The best the best tweet was some baseball writers said is like, Ricky Henderson was actually the first guy to pimp and showboat home runs but he would do it right in the pitcher's face and the pitcher knew they couldn't bean him the next time he was up because if they beamed him he'd

be on third base in two pitches. Yeah. Like you couldn't put him on base like intentionally. So yeah. What's that one? Ricky Anderson trying to find a seat on the team bus teammate tell tell one of them to move you got tenure Ricky tenure now Ricky's been in the league 15 years Yeah, there I don't even know half of these are true, but they're funny and he feels like he was just a legendary legendary guy Yeah, that was good. I had it as my who's back as well I Don't know what my who's back would be then. Yeah, that was good. I had it as my who's back as well. I don't know what my who's back would be then. Oh, well, I have one by Mike Flores book.

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He would appreciate it. We would appreciate it. Yeah, so he's the best He'll always be number one Floreo. Yeah, I'm rolling Floreo for sure. Um, do we have anything else boys? I mean, we're not gonna do a show Wednesday. We're going to do Friday, our regular show. We'll do Zoom on Friday and Zoom on Monday. And then we'll be back together the following Friday. Max, we good? Yeah, I feel okay. Yeah.

One hour, fourth episode of Team T-Doc Thursday. There was one moment where you were screaming it I think you were screaming a PFT. That's okay. It happens. Well. I love it. I love it. Yeah this episode Yeah, I love it. I think it's the best cuz you're it's listen. We all have our passion I got mad at you when you pulled up that fucking meme Yeah, I know that's that was payback, but that's but we should we should be okay with getting mad at each other That's what yeah, that's what makes this show great right we keep it in between the white lines. Yeah, except memes He hates us outside the way. Yeah, that's actually

He carries everything with him afterwards it is funny Whenever I see whenever I see anybody out in public pretty much the only thing that they say is fucking I see anybody out in public pretty much the only thing that they say is fucking Like genuinely hate hang yeah, I don't they're like I fucking hate Hank too it is funny when people think that It's like yeah, we spend Like 60 hours a week together. Yeah, we genuinely love each other. You know Hank. You know, he's he's not about the drama. It's also like literally I don't I I Exist I don't know Do you think there are?

Probably when you're in Philly Do you think there are friends out there that like root for each other's teams to do well if they're if they have different teams That's very guys teams. They don't shut the fuck. No, you don't literally bet against us to make the playoffs Shut the fuck up. No you don't. You literally bet against us to make the playoffs. Like genuinely root for him? Like there'll be times where I'll root, I'll like... You liar. Like... I bet on the women's Super Bowl too.

There'll be times where, outside of bets, outside of bets, but there'll be times where I'll root for your guys team, but like genuinely be like, I want my friends teams to fucking rock. That's crazy. Yeah, you want your friends to be just as miserable as you are. Right. I just said my goal for the NBA season.

Yeah, he's still laughing his face. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, you said it. I want both of you guys to have maximum pain in the playoffs. That's mean. It's the truth.

I actually would like PFT to win one game. That's mean, big cat. I would like PFT to win one game. That's mean big cat I would like PFT to win one guy was you max actually no I'd like max would go to the Super Bowl Be great would you okay? So would you actually be upset if the commanders went to the Super Bowl they won the Super? What I'd be like this is fucking bullshit. Yeah Absolutely, but if you won one game, I'd be happy for you genuinely happy for you for one game Mm-hmm. That would be cool. What if I beat max that would be very cool, but that would just But he would like that more for my pain and your I correct. No shit, correct. Yeah Yeah, so that actually would I don't know cuz like it would be like kind of wasting

Like I'd rather you win like if you played the Packers, I'd be fucking. I know that's not possible, but that would be incredible. I'd be rooting very hard. Okay, so what about this scenario? The Packers play the Eagles in the first round. That's on the table. I'm rooting for Max Hart. You won't get- Hart.

That would be the meanest thing the Packers could do to you is take the joy out of- Correct. Correct. Out of enjoying an Eagles loss. I would be heart, I would be more heartbroken than max yeah I think I would because he would I wouldn't be able to enjoy your loss they would the Packers would rob they might joy all the joy they would rob my joy of your loss from me think about that yeah yes I mean paint the picture again real quick of what is a game seven of the of the of the Eastern Conference finals what is it maybe yeah like I don't know there's ten seconds left I don't know I

just want to see Hank like upset like he always he's never upset ever He almost died the other week no, but no lose That's different upset, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't even together during that I'm I'm pretty actually no he was pretty upset after losing the housing that was Memorial Day But that was Memorial Day when they the kiss he was pretty upset when they lost the yeah I'm such a happy guy. I'm sorry that upsets you The chill is happiest guy All right

Merry Christmas everyone Happy we'll know we'll be back before a new year. Yep Happy happy Hanukkah happy Kwanzaa Happy every oh that kid rocks There's nothing like a Like a 12 year old fat kid, New Jersey He was just going nuts for the game this is great great podcasting alright number 17 11 3 33 89 21 80 80 80 on the TV I think 80 might it's meme said it so no can I change my number? Yeah. 81. I'll take three. What is that? 89.

Oh! Is that you? You got it? Yep. Fuck. Alright. Let's go. Wait. Wait. That better be it. Oh, this would be great. Nope. 68. Oh, you can't just say it. Let's go. Oh, man. Sorry. That's bullshit. I-I-Sorry. I didn't do this. This would be great. No 68 That's bullshit, I'm sorry I didn't do that's your job you have one job I understand but like that's a that's a

Have you ever got it guess it by yourself easy look at PFT look it. Yeah, but that's bullshit. That's your job Well, what a great lot of that's bullshit. It's 68. What's it called? Yeah, Christmas. I'm sorry I apologize for you know long day. What's it called? That's my bad I'm not totally I'm not broken up by it because I've gotten it before I fucked up. Yeah, you have yes He has yes, he's got it. He's gotten it. I got before he's won and also the planners beat the Eagles today So it's a good that's true. They did. Yeah, Max. Congrats. You won the national Volleyball. Oh Good job, man. I didn't go to Penn State. Hey, I'm a fan of their football team Love you guys So So so So So Music Thanks for watching!