Pardon My Take - NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Lions Get The 1 Seed, Bengals Bounced + Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

NFL Week 18 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. We then recap every game from Sunday and talk playoffs (00:00:00-00:09:44). AFC Broncos 38, Chiefs 0 (00:14:08-00:23:13) Bengals 19, Steelers 17 (00:23:13-00:32:48) Chargers 34, Raiders 20 (00:32:48-00:37:59) Ravens 35, Browns 10 (00:37:59-00:47:58) Patriots 23, Bills 16 (00:47:58-01:03:50) Jets 32, Dolphins 20 (01:03:50-01:11:04) Texans 23, Titans 14 (01:11:04-01:12:53) Colts 26, Jaguars 23 (01:12:53-01:19:42) NFC Lions 31, Vikings 9 (01:19:42-01:33:44) Bucs 27, Saints 19 (01:33:44-01:42:29) Panthers 44, Falcons 38 (01:42:29-01:46:24) Commanders 23, Cowboys 19 (01:46:24-02:02:39) Seahawks 30, Rams 25 (02:02:39-02:06:46) Cardinals 47, 49ers 24 (02:06:46-02:10:19) Eagles 20, Giants 13 (02:10:19-02:15:25) Bears 24, Packers 22 (02:15:25-02:28:36) We finish with who's back of the week and a recap of our season long bet (02:28:36-02:46:27).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Win more cash on pick six download the DraftKings pick six app and use code take that's code take for new customers to play $5 get $50 and pick six credits only on DraftKings pick six the crowd is yours today is Monday January 6th week 18. It's the last week of the regular season teach May us be the last to wish you a happy 2024 NFL League year. We start in Pittsburgh where Mike Tomlin thought he had a job for life after Pat Friar Muth, Bader Ginsburg scored a second half touchdown to bring the Steelers back. Jamar Chase Ventura and Allrighty Higgins. Jim carried the offense on a cold night in the Steel City.

In an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, Queen had a sack, but it wasn't enough, as Russ Wilson thought he had unlimited timeouts in the end, only to go out as sad as possible. Bengals, 19. Steelers, 17. WAP! WAP! We go down to Tampa where Mike Evans Gate escaped blanket coverage and caught a comet from Baker to hit his 11th straight season with a thousand yards taking a big bite out of Jerry Reisen's legacy.

Clyde the Fresh Prince of L.A. slapped the rock a few times with 32 yards on 8 carries while Princess Diana Spencer-Rattler failed many drives with tunnel vision As he was chased around all day by his coach Darren Paparizzi As the Saints fall in their finale The box 27, the Saints don't go marching, 19 Up to the frozen tundra It was a tough day for guys who are known for Jordan love As Matt LaFleur had to put in his backup Malik Willis In Tundra, it was a tough day for guys who are known for Jordan love.

As Matt LaFleur had to put in his backup Malik Willis and Skip Bayless was named in a lawsuit. 1.5 mil to each. Huh? I can't believe you got turned down for 1.5 mil. How gross is your dick? Huh? Speaking of the backup, Malik Willis had a fat ugly day at the office. Keenan Allen-Rench said, watch this six point play. Psych!

As he threw a horrendous interception. But the Bears fought hard as Cairo made everyone's sphincter tighten up as he lined up for the game winning Egypt shot. Bears 24, Packers 22, who's your daddy? We go down to Dallas where Marcus the Virgin Mary Oda went untouched for a big run to put the commanders in scoring position making Dan Quinn look like a wise man for resting Jesus Christ. Trey Lance Bass said it's gonna be May to win this game but at the end it was a cowboy saying bye bye bye to Mike

McCarthy. Zach Birx earned every dollar this year scoring his seventh touchdown on the season and the commanders are ready for the playoffs. The playoffs? What? Commanders 23 Cowboys 19. We head to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene. We head to Philadelphia where Sirianni was saying Tanner McKeaky, do you love me? Are we thriving? Now we told the league you are arriving and they want ya But I need ya, you're all QB2, QB2 Jahan G. Spotson was absolutely fucking the Giants D all game as he went on to have his best game of the season. One of the lone bright spots for the Giants had to have been Tyrone

Tracy Chapman who was saying that I could be a fast star but I need a ticket to get me out of here. Poor guy. Eagle 20 Giants 13. Thanks Max Axe we head to Foxborough where Hank is with us We head to Foxborough where Hank is with us Mitchell Trubisky Was looking sexy in the red zone after a touchdown pass to Keeon. I'm a coal man do do do do do do do do Bazooka Joe Chi Minh was the bringer of light Rushing for a score and throwing another to Keesean Derulo Boot.

Bootay in the third quarter. James TooMiniCook scored a TD and Tyler Bassman. Bassman. Intentionally missed an extra point. Three Joey Sligh for a white guy field goals gave the pass the lead in the first court in the fourth overall pick That's win 23-16 I'm hanging I got a cold boom. You got a cold t-ge. All right, we go to Meadowlands where memes huge win Jeff Olbrook's the guy

Huge win in that life Rogers was feeling horny as he hooked up with Tyler Baldwin for his 500th touchdown pass of his career. Ash Ketchumal Davis had two picks to help set up Alan Lacharizard as he burned the Dolphins defense with a fiery 13-yard touchdown catch. Tyreek Hank Hill said, damnit Bobby, I'll tell you what, I'm out of here. As he had two receptions for 20 yards. Devante Adam Sandler clicked with Aaron Rodgers for one last touchdown but fast forwarded a little too much as time ran out on the Jets disaster of a season. Jets 32 Miami 20. Thanks memes. In Atlanta where cornerback Michael Jackson took a look at the young Phoenix matchup and said, I gotta get a pick. Panthers 44, Falcons 38.

What? What? Some spread. In Mile High, where Carson of Sam Wentz looked like he was getting play calls from his dog, as both thugs and Harmony Nicks pulled out his thuggish, ruggish bone in the Chief's face as the Bengals prayed. And they prayed, and they prayed, and they prayed, and they prayed, and they prayed, and they prayed, every day, every day, every every day but we'll see them at the crossroads after being bounced from the

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picture and the games we watched on Sunday. We're gonna start with the AFC we are set with our AFC playoff schedule by the way if at any point during this show because we're taping it in part so we can watch the entirety of Sunday Night Football if they release a schedule, please Do breaking news because I know that I would have said I would say the majority of America the minute the playoffs are set Spends the next like hour just googling and typing into what's app called X dot com the everything yeah Happening on X they just type in skip playoff schedule over and over and over again until Someone and there wasn't there a guy we found last year that that like his hobby is to predict it

He predicts like every schedule. Yeah, yeah on X You are the media and our darling Jake Marsh has released his prediction so we can just say Jake's predictions right now. We can. And then we could, we could, we could judge them after let's judge them afterwards. Okay. All right. So this is before Sunday night football. Yes. We don't know. We don't know yet. Uh, he's got four 30 on prime on Saturday, prime game, the chargers at the Texans. That is like, uh, that's basically like getting, yeah, yeah, you, you, you get a freebie now, but he took a shot on this by saying that that's going to be on prime. Okay. But yeah, no, I think, I think that stuff. I think it might be, I think that's the shit that Jake

knows that we don't know. You think for sure would not take a gamble on a network. Is it going to be Al Michaels? So we're subjecting Al Michaels to the Houston Texans game? Probably. I took a, uh, I took a I took a guess this morning when I was doing my fantasy corner and all the replies were like, dude, technically this game has to be this because the broadcast is like, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Enough. I want to just say like, I want to be able to predict the times and then the matchups. Yeah,

I don't care. Definitely looked all this is definitely he did his home. Travel schedule is reminding the teacher to assign homework to everybody else well, let me throw out a question here Did Jake do all the travel schedules cuz doesn't is Kirk Herbstreet calling? Oh, I guess that's in Texas fucking he did it again Yeah, it's he's calling Friday night, Ohio State Texas you think in Dallas he's just gonna go right over to Houston for Saturday you think Jake doesn't know curb streets travel schedule and probably he's probably got dog friendly flights that can take him from city to city yeah okay 8 p.m. Saturday commanders at bucks okay do you want that I don't think that's I don't think I think he's wrong as well there I

don't care anyone anytime anywhere all right right, I love that for you. Yeah Sunday 1 p.m. Broncos at the Bills I think that's the the second layup on the schedule I think those the the first game and that game are almost guaranteed Yes I mean especially the tech if you're a Houston Texans fan for the last like 10 years You can just pencil in what you're gonna be doing at 330 in the afternoon on that Saturday in in January I might by the way, I think I saw the line open at seven and a half if it if it's seven Or even six and a half. I might game of the year the bills

I hate it the bills are kind of fucking demolish the Broncos. You don't think so Hank hungry dog, I Think the bills are going to fucking demoralize showing some fight. All right, we'll talk. Yeah, we'll talk about it. They're actually the first game we're gonna talk for 30. The afternoon game Packers at the Eagles Packers at the Eagles. Okay, okay. 8pm Steelers Ravens. Yep. That would be awesome. That sounds about right. That'd be

awesome. Hopefully the Ravens just wear their clean black uniforms for that game. Yep. That's what America wants. Yep. And then we've got Monday, the loser of the Vikings lions game at the Rams football. Okay. So that, I mean, those are his predictions. We'll get the final by the end of the show, but let's get into it. So we're going to start with the AFC, the entire AFC picture and all the games from the AFC today. We have to set the stage, Chiefs the one seed, Bills the two seed, Ravens the three seed, Texans four, Chargers five, Raven six, or sorry, Steelers six, Broncos seven. And we'll start with the game that kind of, it took all the intrigue out of Sunday. Broncos 38, Chiefs 0. I went in this game

being like, hey, maybe Carson Wentz will show us something and keep this. I didn't think, I never thought the Chiefs were going to win. I thought the Chiefs might cover 11 and a half. He, that was stupid of me. He's bad. Carson Wentz made me believe that this might be Patrick Mahomes best season ever. Yeah. That's how, that's how bad the Chiefs look today. Yes. Carson Wentz took me believe that this might be Patrick Mahomes best season ever. Yeah. That's how that's how bad the Chiefs look today. Yes. Carson Wentz took the job a little too seriously. You could see when he was rolling up to the game and he was dressed like he was the magician

opening an act for month Mumford and son. Yeah. That this was going to be an all time shitty game. Carson Wentz. He was he wearing the suspenders. He had the like weird like 1920s style cap on. he had the best way to put it when I saw him I thought to myself this looks like your most arrested friend what he would wear to his wedding To make people think that he had class for four hours, right? Right? Like I really classed this like check this out

I've got leather suspenders on. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at him right now. Yeah He yeah And he rented a land land rover to drive around for four hours to be like, damn, I really did. English. He basically is like, I'm going to look like an English countryside man. Carson Wentz ruined America Sunday again. Yeah. He, he, he, he was trying a little too hard. Oh, this is the max. Max is so good. How many pictures do you think? Actually was FSU Brando that did it? Uh, shout out FSU Brando, but yeah, Carson Wentz. Um, he w who's the, uh,

Sherlock Holmes. He was basically like, if I could be the backup for Sherlock Holmes, the musical, yeah, the understudy. Yeah. The understudy I'll do that and I'll show up like that. Uh, not exactly exuding confidence. Carson Wentz made this game just, it was never, I mean, it was more Bo Nicks was phenomenal and the Broncos came out and they didn't fuck around. And I think that they should wear those uniforms all the time for sure because those are the not fuck around uniforms. But yeah, Carson Wentz, it was Carson to Carson, Carson Wentz to Carson steel. Yeah. And Carson, it Carson to Carson, uh, their stat line. Carson Wentz was 10 for 17 for 98 yards. Carson steel was eight rushes for 25 yards. Okay. Uh, your Carson power rankings. I got Carson steel one, uh, Johnny Carson

two, and then Carson wins three for how they performed. Okay. So I've got, yeah, I was going to say Carson Daly. I have Carson Daly one, uh, Carson steel to Carson Wentz. No, Johnny Carson. Yeah. Johnny Carson had a better day. Carson Palmer, Carson Palmer for city. Carson city five. Hmm. What are their Carson's we got? Ben Carson, Ben Carson six tomorrow, Monday, January six. That's a, that's a top day for Carson. Yeah. Carson back. Yeah. Seven. He just, he just went, he just declared for the draft. Yep. That doesn't mean he's going to get drafted, but he's declared for the draft. Yeah. This was a big weekend for Carson. So that I'm at for whence I'm at, I'm at seven. Um, I'm trying to think if there are any others, uh, I guess I'll just then go seven Carson Wentz Carson Kelly hit two 40 this year with

nine home runs. Okay. Okay. That's pretty good. Yep. That's pretty good. Okay. So, so put him seven and then eight would be Carson Beck. There's pro you know what? Put eight Carson just parentheses, tick tock or you You know, there is one. I don't fucking know whoever it could be last name or whatever. I don't fucking know, but there's definitely a famous tick tocker named Carson. Carson Wentz needs to be, he's relegated to the Carson championship division. Yeah. So Carson Carson Wentz will be not number nine Carson for me. Yep. That feels right. As for the Broncos, congratulations to the Broncos for making the playoffs. It's

actually an awesome story. So they, this is the first time they've been in the playoffs in eight years. They were, this is a franchise that what 18 months ago to, you know, two years less than two years ago was like, where are we going? Because it was Russell Wilson on a terrible contract, Nathaniel Hackett for 13 games or whatever it was getting fired. They had no way out and then they get Sean Payton and it wasn't great last year, but Sean Payton, I owe you an apology. You're a hell of a coach. Bo Nicks, I owe you an apology. You had a phenomenal rookie season and the Denver Broncos are back in the

playoffs and you like if you're a Broncos fan this has to feel awesome because this is there are certain teams in these playoffs and we'll get to it and we'll talk about it all week like Lamar Jackson the Ravens have the most pressure of any team ever Bills and Josh Allen as well the Broncos are on gravy train and I know I that doesn't mean that they're not going to try to win, you know, playoff games and get to the Super Bowl. But if you're a Broncos fan, getting to the playoffs in the first year of Bo Nicks and having your franchise turn around, get out from under Russell Wilson, turn around this

fast, have the future look this bright, have your defense be phenomenal. Like whatever happens in the playoffs next year in the off season is going to be a great time just getting pumped for Broncos football. Yeah. This season is a clear win for the Denver clear with clear when you've already won. Congratulations. Yeah. But it's going to be tough going to Buffalo. I don't envy them for that, but it doesn't matter. Like you are playing with zero pressure in this game. Yeah. So yeah, they shut out the chiefs, shut them out and Carson went off TV forever. Didn't even make it like we went into today and we knew all the playoff iterations and obviously we'll

get to the Bengals Saturday night game. Like they were still alive and the jets and dolphins had implications. I just wanted this game to be, uh, like a little bit of drama, but the Broncos were just too good and it's all credit to Broncos because there is a world where the pressure of that game, a win and get in for the Broncos, they have like weird shit happen and you just knew it was their day on, I think it was the second or third touchdown pass by Bo Nix where it hit six different hands from the Chiefs. They got the Chiefs magic.

Yeah, they got the Chiefs magic. That's some shit that would happen to the Kansas City Chiefs if Patrick Mahomes did that pass. But this also is set up, the Chiefs, you know, they're set up for the playoffs. I know they're going to have whatever, 25 days off or whatever it might be if they play on a Saturday or Sunday, 24 days off. They'll win their first game in the divis round you guys all agree it will be either the Texans Chargers Ravens Broncos if I had to say the only team that I would say the chargers the Chargers just because there is division and

Third time because the Broncos the Ravens stop to beat a team three times the Ravens They wouldn't play the room so the AFC championship the Broncos obviously in division third time But this game wasn't the Brock the Chiefs didn't have their star the game was over before They even touched down in Denver right because Kansas City was delayed so much Yeah, they didn't take off till like what 7 p.m. Last night to get there well, the game was over when Carson Wentz his wife put out the you know, Whatever the fuck that was his where the game was over when he set foot inside men's warehouse yeah yeah and he was

like you know what give me give me all the accoutrements I want a vest look how hot I want a hat chargers oh oh you're gonna do that now hardball okay Hank and it is doing trolling. Tough to beat a team three times. Trolling, trolling, trolling. No, I said when they won that Thursday night game and I said they look good. They can make a move. But yeah, credit to Sean Payton and Broncos fans, you should be over the moon because the future is just so bright and it just has to feel so good knowing that you turned it all around that quickly. And eight years, I've said it a million times before, but the Broncos were one of those

franchises that was the gold standard and just they never really had bad years. And I think they're one of the only teams that hasn't picked number one overall. They won Super Bowls with John Elway, won one with Peyton Manning, were always in the mix. So these eight years have been very tough for the Broncos and now it feels like you're starting a new Opening up a new window of hey, we're gonna be back to what we were We're gonna be in the playoff picture year and in year out you got new ownership. Yeah, and everything around Yeah, the Walton Walmart money. Yeah that Walmart. Yeah, I am happy for Broncos fans

This has been big for them and Bo Nicks. thank God Sean Payton looked inside his backpack. Yes. Yes. Like what's in the bag. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean Denver is a football town. They love their fucking Broncos. And if they wear those uniforms every day, like every game, I, every time I see them in the uniforms, like, man, I kind of love the Broncos. But those uniforms are so good that all it does is make me mad. They don't wear them every week. Exactly. That's how good they are. And it's just something you got to wear. Yeah. Those are playoff uniform. I don't know though, on make me mad they don't wear them every week. Exactly. That's how good they are. And it's just something about mile high. You got to wear those in the playoffs, right? Yeah. Those are playoff uniforms.

I don't know though, on the road, you don't get to decide. The Bills will probably wear blue, right? I would assume the Bills will wear blue, yeah. So they'll have to wear white. The Broncos will. Yeah. So that sucks. Maybe just do the powder blue uniforms.

I mean, the helmets. Just go with the helmets. Yeah, you can go, yeah, blue blue helmets all white jerseys. Yeah Okay, next game Bengals 19 Steelers 17. So this obviously happened Saturday night The Broncos game made this irrelevant, but for 24 more hours the Bengals were alive They are not alive anymore. They did not make it to the playoffs they ended the season with a win,

kind of hot, but that's got to be one of the most frustrating seasons for a fan base. I can remember in a long time and not like frustrating, you know, the Jets or the Bears or the Giants. Like you had Joe Burrow in an all time season, Jamar Chase, who got the triple crown and you just, you didn't get a shot at the playoffs. And that's, it's like a, a what if in your head, I don't think they would have done a lot of damage because that defense, even though the defense has been playing better. That what if would drive me insane. No, we can say right now chiefs really dodged a bullet. If I get a bangles bounce. Yeah.

The bangles that are just weren't a very good team. They just weren't there. You have to be able to play defense and stop somebody occasionally. How weird does that week one game look now? Yeah, week one Bengals lose to the Patriots. That cost the Patriots the number one pick overall in the draft. And it also kept the Bengals out of the playoffs kept the Bengals out of the playoffs. And the weird part about the Bengals season on Saturday night against the Steelers, it was their defense that saved them. Because, you know, that first drive was on easy mode for Joe Burrow. And then they didn't score, they didn't get a touchdown again. And Trey Hendrickson was an absolute monster. They came up with stop after stop. He had three and a half sacks, he gets the record, he gets the season record. So he's, he, he, 17 and a half sacks on the season leads the league.

I still every time I watch him, especially in the cold without gloves on, I get very intimidated. Mm hmm. And yeah, I don't know what like to have your defense finally play that type of game. It's like, God damn it. Everything just nothing worked at the right time for the Bengals. They just ran out of time on everything When was the last time a team finished with the the best passer most yards the top receiver and the top sack person and missed the playoffs?

Hmm. I mean, I'm just gonna assume the Chargers probably charges 2011. Yeah, is there eight or whatever? Yeah, whatever that year was. Yeah, but is it got, it's extra like if you're the Bengals, it already was frustrating knowing you needed a lot of help this weekend. But then to have a game like Saturday night where your defense finally like bowed up and made stop after stop and your defense has looked a little bit better down the stretch. Nope. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Uh, Pickens put up, I think one catch for zero yards in this game was so bad. Looked checked out. Not on the same page.

Yeah, not on the same page turns out. Who gets the blame for that deep pass that I think Russ missed him on that one. Russ didn't play well either. I think Russ missed him. It was very funny because I was watching, I went to Derek Rose night and then I came home and I got the last like three minutes of the Bengals Steelers game and I was watching in bed and my wife was like, who are you talking about who's not on the same page as Russ? And as she said it, it was that pass that would have won them the game. And I was like, it was

that guy and he laid there and he was so frustrated and he dropped. He had, yeah, he had one catch for zero yards, six targets. Yep. I think three drops. I don't know what the Steelers, the Steelers just do the same season every year. And I, it's obviously the reason for it is that since Routlesburger, they've been in just complete quarterback purgatory where they've been taking shots at guys, you know, year after year, but they like, they've lost four in a row, three out of four of them were to legit playoff teams, the fourth being the Bengals. They look like completely lost on offense. They did kind of fix it on defense finally, but I don't, this is what happens every single year. That third and one and fourth and one at the end of the first half when they couldn't get a yard. Yeah. They're

just not a threat. Yeah, they're not a threat. And by, by always being right around 500, but a little bit better than 500, they do miss on the opportunity to get quarterbacks. So they're probably gonna do another bridge quarterback. Yeah, Rogers. Or yeah, maybe Rogers, Kirk Cousins. I don't know, I don't know who you're gonna bring in, but they're not gonna be in a position to draft one,

at least one that's any good. And so it's like, you're going to see the exact same Steelers season repeat itself over and over again in the future. Yeah, I saw a meme, It was like two hallways. Like Steelers start well, Steelers start poorly, and then both of the hallways led to 10 and 6 bounce in the first round of the playoffs. Yeah. And that's just what it is. But the thing is, they could beat the Ravens. The Ravens are obviously a much, much better

team right now. And on paper, it seems like the Ravens should dog-walk them, but it could because of the Tomlin It's the Tomlin Steelers Ravens thing Yeah, it is and they were if Russ doesn't fumble in that game a couple weeks ago Like going in there were there would be up 14-7. They already beat the Ravens once this year I don't think they're gonna beat the Ravens because I just don't know where the offense is gonna come from but maybe it's one of those weird Lamar throws a couple picks and you get a lucky fumble. I saw a highlight reel Lamar Jackson's interceptions this year. I think he's thrown what? Four, four of them for, and I think three of the

four were like tipped balls that weren't really his fault. Like either deflected off his, his teammates hand or something like that. Lamar's just not turning the ball over this year. But in a weird way, although you'd like to see, if you're the Steelers, you would much rather go play against the Chargers or something like that. I guess it wouldn't be the Chargers. The Texans. You would much rather play against the Texans. But I feel like they have a decent chance against the Ravens. If you're a Ravens fan, the Steelers are not the team you wanted to see. No. And I'm not saying that the Steelers are anywhere near as good as the Ravens.

The Ravens are far, far better than the Steelers. It's just the familiarity and how these teams always play has to scare you. Because it's just a single elimination, a fluke bounce. And the Steelers are the best at fluke bounce. But I just, I feel bad for Steelers fans, not in a way that like, not when Billy said he felt bad for us. I feel bad in the fact that you can't complain

if you're a Steelers fan, because you go to the playoffs routinely, and Mike Tomlin never goes under 500. But you can complain because it's so frustrating living in this purgatory and I understand like as much as I love Mike Tomlin when Steelers fans are like I'm sick of this get me off this ride I'm starting to realize like yeah they're actually right to be able to complain here.

You're good adjacent. You're good and you're good enough to know how you lack that one thing that will put you into being a very good team. Yeah they're good-ish. You're good-ish put you into being a very good team. Yeah, they're good ish. You're good ish and you're always going to be good ish. You're going to play teams hard, but you're probably not going to do anything in the playoffs. You're going to win a couple games you didn't expect to win during the course of the season. You're going to lose a couple games you didn't expect to lose and then you're going to end up

with a six or seven seed and then lose in the playoffs. There's only one way to break this if you're the Steelers and you're getting your bridge quarterback and you want a guy that's going to take chances and if it goes well, it's gonna be electric, but completely reset the identity of what your offense has been and that's James Winston. You get James in their worst case scenario, you finish with a bad enough record

where maybe you could draft a better quarterback. I like that. Although, I like that idea a lot. If things go right, it's completely different. It is like is the antidote to everything that you've been in the last four seasons. I like that a lot. Jamis, Jamis and Pittsburgh, Jamis and Pittsburgh. Get it done. Uh, do you think the Bengals re-signed T Higgins? Uh, no, I was leaning no and it's probably still no, but Joe burrow as like that was as direct

as you can get. Like you don't let that guy out the door. Yeah. And Joe Burrow is your franchise quarterback. I maybe I mean you should maybe I want to be very clear. I'm not saying that you shouldn't. Will they? I don't think that they will. Especially if they, if they do move from Zach Taylor, which is, I guess it's a possibility. I don't think that they will especially if they if they do move from Zack Taylor, which is I guess it's a possibility I don't think they will I mean how much of that of this season can you put on the head coach though? He would be one of the best coaches to be fired. Yeah, he definitely gets blamed for this season So it's a pretty big failure. Yeah, yeah talent that you have and the expectations He's got to get some of it and listen. We love Joe burrow friend of the program, but this does feel

The famous window speech he gave member was like the windows always open when I'm here This feels like the occur season from that. Yeah, it's like No, because you can have see the windows not always open because the NFL and the ball bounces wrong a couple games and You're having a career year and still out of the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. This is why we need NFL bowls. He also told the burglars that his windows always open. Yeah, that's true. We should have. This is why we need NFL bowls. I'd watch. I'd watch the Bengals in the pop tarts bowl. Yeah. I mean, we just give it to us. Okay. So Bengals, who would you have them play in a bowl? I would have in a bowl. Maybe the Falcons the

Falcons would be a good one For the hunters Bengal Bengals Cardinals What about Bengal Seahawks? To be good or a good game Bengals Panthers Bengals Panthers should be full Andy Dalton revenge. Yeah Yeah, I'd watch that bowl game. Give us one bowl game. Do it. You know, I don't know. Thursday night after the first round so that we can, we can still have Thursday night football and have it be for, I don't

know, uh, $10 million extra in cap space. You don't think the Bengals would do that? I don't think they would use that cap space. They would just like, we're still not resigned. Yeah, they'd have it. Can you trade cap space? Cause I think the Bengals would use that cap space. Yeah, which is like we're still not resigned. Yeah, they'd have it Can you trade cap space because I think the Bengals would do that. Okay next game Chargers 34 Raiders 20 So this is the other consequential game. So the Steelers losing the Chargers winning the Chargers get the five seed They go to Houston on wild-card super wild-card weekend This was Chargers finishing 11 and six on the season. Incredible turnaround. Quinton Johnson was insane in this game. He finished with 13 catches, 186 yards, making awesome catches.

And the Chargers finished the season strong. Feel like Hank, they could beat the Texans. They're favored against the Texans. I think they will beat the Texans. And then they'd have to go to Arrowhead. I would ride them. What's wrong with you right now? I'm sick. You are?

Yeah, can't you hear? Yeah, I guess I didn't really notice, because you were, is that why you've been a little chippy today? Because you're on medicine? Are you a little loopy? A little loopy. You have been a little, have you noticed

Hank's been a little like? Hank was very feisty Yeah, he's been sneezing more aggressively than any man has ever sneezed before. Is that true? Are you being? No enough sneezing. I'm not a bitching. I just I like didn't want to be sneezing in front of everyone Is that a handkerchief three hours? It's a towel. Yeah, he's got a towel. She's got a cum towel. Oh, that's a new towel towel. She's got a cum towel. Oh, that's a stuze towel. It's stuze come down. Yeah. I think the chargers, uh, yeah, could make some noise. I think they're officially my make some noise category. I mean, the way Herbert's playing. Yes. Yeah.

He's playing really well. Yeah. He's running with a bowl. Well, I I'm not going to put anything past hardball. The hard Jim hardball can 100% beat the Texas. Yes. Uh, what do we think about what the Raiders Yes. What do we think about what the Raiders are going to do? Brock powers, by the way, finish over 1000 yards, phenomenal season rookie record, no Connell, kind of kind of thing. He might be he might be a bridge quarterback in place. He might be good enough for the Raiders

to go into next season. Be like, you know what, let's just run it back. And let's have a OC and Gardner Minshew battled out this postseason or this offseason. We'll see who's going to next season be like, you know what, let's just run it back and let's have a OC and Gardner Minshew battled out this postseason or this offseason. We'll see who's gonna be QB one. Yeah, I do you think they're gonna fire Antonio Pierce? I think they might because I think I think Tom Brady, like your good friend Mike Florio was saying is, is going to be leaning a lot more heavily into decision making. And there's like 1% stake ownership would lead you to believe. Yeah. Is there a chance Mike variable can coach three different teams at the same

time? Yeah, Mike can do it. Yeah. Yeah. He absolutely can do it. But, uh, well actually, can you grab Shane? Shane is our Chargers fan. He said he might go to this game. He said he might go to this game if it's the Saturday afternoon game. And I was like, dude, it's the Saturday afternoon game. Don't worry about it 346 yards. That's a haul. I don't send Texas still. Yeah, Paul But he's never been to a Chargers. He's never been to Texas. They're been to Texas never been on an airplane He's never seen a football game live. Yeah, he's actually never touched a football Houston Airport. God help you God help you All right, Shane. It's a Chargers talk real quick for the people Shane is a diehard Chargers fan He's wearing his chart is one of his finest Chargers

Chargers sweatshirts I Didn't realize you were sick changes my whole perspective on today cuz it like you have fever I thought I thought you were in a good mood today I didn't realize you were just fucking doped up on night cool or day cool or whatever the fuck you're taking We're all gonna get sick Emergency Shane how we feeling about the Chargers? I feel great everything that needed to happen happened Yep, and are you gonna beat the Texans? Yeah, are you gonna go to the game? I'll try to what does that mean? I'll see I mean, it's a Saturday football games on my have to work

Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be on Saturday. I hope it's on Saturday 33 we're telling you right now. Yeah, they already announced it. Yeah Basically, no, it's the Texans. It's it's gonna be Saturday Shane. It'll be a good game. What are we talking about? It's Shane. It's gonna be Saturday. Okay, so are you gonna go? I will, I will try. You need to go. Game time will send ya. Come on. I mean that would be awesome. Yeah.

First game. So what's the vibe, like what are the keys to the playoffs for the Chargers? Well biggest key was just like five seed, like Ravens no chance but I don't know just gotta not fall apart on offense okay that's good that's good points mm-hmm okay up little points let give up little points yes like field goals safety yes those type of can I give you some tips no touchdowns you got it you got to run the football and then you got to stop the run and then we got it we got a pass occasionally little point when appropriate

I don't think I've ever heard little points, but I like it little points Okay, thank you Shane Shane Shane is one of our hard-working guys on on PMT also Italian get too many Italians here way too many way too many Italian is he really Italian yes Yeah blonde hair. I don't know He's got a vowel on his last name doesn't he? He does a Mario everybody has a vowel in their last name. We are aliens. No, it's the last thing we need. Yeah Okay, that's up Ravens 35 Browns 10

The Cleveland Browns got the second pick in the draft, which kind of was out of nowhere. Like they were the going into the season. I don't think anyone thought they were gonna be a great team, but no one thought they were gonna be the second pick. And then Deshaun showed up and he was terrible. And then Jameis showed up and like, oh, they're definitely not gonna be the second pick because he's gonna win a couple of games. And then they went to the saddest quarterback duo

of all time in Bailey's happy and DTR that bummed me out watching that game so they got this score ten points which is actually an improvement of what we've seen from the Browns in the last three weeks they've now scored 26 points in four games so is that six and a half points per game yes under the DTR slash Bailey's happy two headed monster yes and then Ken Dorsey got fired for not being able to squeeze blood out of the stone. Yep. For not being able to activate DTR appropriately. Yep. But getting fired by the Browns as a coach, that's, that's a prestigious group

that you can count yourself among. Yeah. Right. Cause didn't Belchuk, was he fired? Everyone gets fired by the Browns. Sabin was probably fired by the Browns. Yeah. When you get fired by the Browns, they probably give you like a nice Rolex. Yeah. Like, thank you for your service. We appreciate it. Hugh Jackson shows up first to those meetings, probably. Hey, guys. Yeah.

We're all great coaches here. What's up, guys? Oh, yeah, we're all awesome. Oh, yeah, I won one game in two years. But if you talk to Mike Silver, he'll tell you I got a raw deal. Yeah. But yeah, the season's over for the Browns. You're probably glad.

It's probably a good thing for you guys The Ravens just looked like they were just they're gonna continue to be nearly unstoppable Yeah, it's like on easy mode for Lamar right now. Yeah, uh, although Zay Flowers getting injured how injured is he? Update on that. I know there was an MRI scheduled. I don't know what happened with the MRI But yes, that is very, very significant. This is a big part, although Bateman looks pretty good too. Yeah. And Mark Andrews is like fully, fully back. I know there was that stretch of the season was like, what's up with Mark Andrews?

Is Isaiah likely the guy? No, Mark Andrews is the guy. Let's see. Can we find anything about Zay Flowers? You got to look it up, Max, while we talk about the game. Lamar is probably going to win the MVP. It's I don't know. It's close. It's an awesome MVP. I think I hope it's Josh Lamar. So he's the first player in his NFL history to have 4000 yards

passing and 900 plus Russian yards in the same season. He's also the first player in history to have over 40 touchdowns with under five interceptions. 41 and 4 is what he finished with. He was insane all season. It is one of the coolest MVP races we've had because it's such a good MVP race that the guy who has 2,000 yards rushing is like not even talked about. Yeah so So if you're a Ravens fan, are you more confident going to this postseason than you were last year? You have to be because of Derek Henry, but you don't have home field.

You don't have home field, but you have to be because of Derek Henry and what he did this year. Derek Henry statistically probably had his best season. I know he had a 2000 yard season, but he had, he carried the ball, I think 60 or 70 more times that season. Uh, this, he, he turned 31 on Saturday but he had he carried the ball, I think 60 or 70 more times that season. This he turned 31 on Saturday, and he had 1921 yards and 16 touchdowns. It's insane what he did this year. That is crazy. Also to think that Derek Henry is just 31. Yeah, because in running back years, he might as well be like 60. But he had an incredible season. And I think

the the presence of Derek, you can't refuse to run the ball like they did last year against Chiefs when Derek Henry is in your backfield. That's just a fact. It's almost you put Derek Henry there so that you have to remind yourself all the time oh yeah who's that guy who's standing on the sideline who's a beast that no one can tackle oh yeah we should probably run him. Yeah that's why you get the biggest guy you can find to be your your bellcal running back right is you it's impossible to ignore Derek Henry, right? So, uh, yeah, I I think that uh, I I think you feel more confident going in this year. I think you are still though very nervous because

This is the most important playoffs in Lamar's career I think because he's gonna be coming off what most likely is going to be three. Is it three straight MVPs or two straight? And then his third, I think it's two straight and his third overall. Yeah. And you have everything and I know you'd have home field. It might be his best season and skinny. Yeah. And you have everything and uh, your D the defense of the Ravens has played a lot better in the, in the, in the back half of the season. I know their secondary was a worry for a while. It's gotten a lot better. So yeah, I think this is the, I, if you had to do the PR, maybe let's do that on Wednesday, let's do pressure rankings, which team has the most pressure.

I like that. I think, I think it would be the Ravens. I think Lamar Jackson has the most pressure. I would agree. I think, I think if you don't win it this year in Baltimore, you're like, we're never going to get it done. If you don't at least get to the Superbowl. Superbowls can go 50-50, you know, it's one game. If they don't get to the Superbowl, if they lose to the Bills or the Chiefs, there's going

to be a lot of questions. What are you thinking, Max? They've such a tough road. I know, but that's- They have to go on the road to Buffalo and then on the road to Kansas City. But they're a really good team. And last year the road to Kansas City. But they're a really good team. And last year, they obviously had home field advantage. They blew that.

They've blown home field advantage a couple times as the one seed. You don't think that they're number one in pressure rankings? Yeah. Would you say the Eagles have more pressure? I personally think the Eagles have more pressure. I do not think the Eagles have more pressure. I think the Ravens have the most pressure because Derrick Henry is also not getting younger and Lamar again, Lamar is the is the best player in the NFL

right now playing the best football. He's going to win an MVP most likely. I hope it's Josh but you got like you got to do it. He hasn't been to a Superbowl. I think it's one, two, G Lamar Josh for most pressure in these playoffs. I would say, I think Josh has more pressure. Yeah, I was going to say, I think, I think the bills and the Ravens are just about the exact, because they're both fighting the same battle, which is to finally be able to beat the chiefs. Yeah. The only reason I would say theills don't have as much pressure is just because this was supposed to be a mini rebuild year Yeah, we flip the roster the Ravens have nine Pro Bowl once you're there though. Well, I know you're there I had a season as the Bills have had I agree. I think I think

It's just a little definitely as nervous as they've ever been last year They might have had more pressure because that was the end of that, you know roster and they're home I know the bills are gonna be home game and favored. We'll save it for pressure rankings on Wednesday We'll have a debate. Well, maybe we can go to supreme debate. I Don't know if we want to go there. We can think about it depends on how sick Hank is Well, I don't know I would skip Bayless method supreme debate. That's why Hank got this job actually Yeah, paid him a half million dollars. Fuck me He said no, oh by the way Michael Pierce that interception was awesome, but yes ran out of gas

Yep, I really wish he had tried to give us a little bit more Was that I just I he's so big him running was so funny I think was healed right away I think it was perfect though the way that he was just like fuck this. Yeah, he was like, I'm already tired I've my plays are usually over after four and a half seconds Yeah, you can't expect me grown with this football. Who do the Browns take with the number two pick? Mmm, maybe cam ward I'll say it. I don't know. I

Don't know if I would take she door one or two. I know you're not supposed to say that here But I'm gonna say why I think I would take Kim Ward before I would take him word I have Kim Ward ahead of should do I do to board I do too, but I got Travis Hunter number one overall Yeah, I also have two players I also think that this is not a good QB draft that maybe you just take a really there's some really good players in this draft that are just not QBs. I got Cam Scadaboo, number one overall. Number two, I've got Tyler Crowe actually. No, I don't I have a hunter is two. And then I've got cam ward then should work. Okay, that's my top four. Nice. So you don't have ashton genti. I don't have ashton genti on there Okay. No, all right. Let's take a break with a couple ads and then let's talk about Hank firing his coach before we get to Hank firing his coach. He's brought to you by game time There's college football this week. We got NFL games coming up this weekend

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Pretty good. He's beaten himself up a little bit. But we were exactly right. Chargers and Texans are going to kick it off on Saturday at 430 Eastern 330 Central. So somebody, somebody posted the history of the Texans in this time slot and 2011 Saturday, 3 30, 2012 Saturday, 3 30, 2015, Saturday, 3 30, 2016, Saturday, 3 30, 2018, Saturday, 3 30, 2019, Saturday, 3 30,

2023, Saturday, 3 30, 18 Saturday 330 2019 Saturday 330 2023 Saturday 330 2024 Saturday 330 I have they won like two of those games too like I feel like they don't I went off they beat the Bengals in one of them because the Bengals used to be the king of the Saturday and they 30 and they passed the torch they beat the Raiders and the one that Derek Carr got hurt right before and Who the fuck started that game It was I think an ex-Michigan. Oh, yes. Yeah, it was a was it a Cooper No, it was a Michigan State quarterback fuck. I think cook. Yes. Yeah Connor cook Connor cook But yeah, Shane doesn't know ball to be like, oh, the schedule's released.

You sure it's Saturday at three? Yeah, it is. It's the Texans. It was always Saturday. It's the Texans. You know what? Part of my take is the first report. The Houston Texans will play on wild card weekend.

Yes. And 2026, Saturday, 3.30. Yes. So we're starting off with the Chargers of the Texans. They were doing Steelers at Raven Saturday night, which I love The the Broncos at the Bills the early game on Sunday, which we all said was a guarantee Those are the two guarantees the early Texans early Broncos at Bills then it is Packers at Eagles Max afternoon's spot.

Are you feeling OK? You like it? Yeah, it's a good spot. And then PFT, you have the night game on Sunday. I was a little surprised for the night game on Sunday. I thought you were going to get the Monday night game, to be honest. I thought Monday night was a possibility.

I thought Saturday night. Sunday, it's like that's the game that they think America wants to watch the most. Yeah, it's NBC. It's Jaden. Yeah. America wants to watch the most. Yeah, it's NBC. So it's, it's Jaden. Yeah. And then we have the Minnesota Vikings going to the LA Rams on Monday night for the super wild card weekend.

So we're very excited. Very excited football. And we have Thursday and Friday football too. Okay. Patriots at Bills. Patriots win. They blow their shot at the number one pick it was very clear we had this debate I feel like about the Bills maybe throwing it and you're like

I don't know if they they will they did they did they did they started Josh Allen heck they did start Josh Allen for play that's 115 straight starts I think the moment where I was like yeah they're not trying to win this game was when they punted from the Patriots 35 yard line the miss field goal to keep it so that if the it was basically a two-point game instead of a three-point game The miss extra point sorry, and then they took out Mitch. Yeah. Yeah, it's got Mitch put in Mike White We said Mike White sighting Joe Milton Joe Milton bazooka Joe came out today Joe Milton looked awesome You can't blame bazooka Joe. Okay, you got a shot chance to play ball. Yeah, that's what you do when he scored that rushing touchdown that he did a casual backflip in the end zone afterwards.

I'm man, you might have two great quarterbacks. He had a couple. Yeah. A couple like passes across his body that were thrown like 150 miles. Now we are still in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. He was playing against backups, yeah but still it's Joe Milton. He can he can bomb it. So and then the big story is maybe an hour and a half after the game ended the Patriots officially fired Gerard Mayo. So he's a one and done coach. Pretty crazy because I was it in, uh, like September, Robert Kraft said on a broadcast that he basically picked Gerard Mayo to be the next head coach five years ago. Uh, I w I mean, Hank, you wanted this to happen. I feel like this was a smart decision.

I do think it was a smart decision. I also think that they wouldn't have done it as quickly as they did if they didn't know that they are getting the coach that they want't have done it as quickly as they did if they didn't know that they are getting Their coach that they want which I believe is Mike very well Yes, and the fact that Mike variable had just interviewed with the Jets He was gonna interview the Bears on Wednesday on Wednesday It felt like Robert Kraft was like I have to make this decision now because Mike's my guy I guess he also interviewed with the Jets and then shortly after changed his Twitter picture profile picture

Which he's not a very active Twitter user to a picture of him when he was playing for the Patriots Mike Vrabel did yeah He has a Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, really? Oh, yeah Oh, I don't know. I think there's a good chance that that's fine Mike Vrabel went into that interview and just said fuck you guys. I'm a patriot Yeah, and then let's just what he actually probably went in there and got a bunch of info on how they run. So he's like, I'm going to be a division foe in a matter of hours. He could have got their info on how they run with the latest Madden update. Yeah. Or just, or just followed brick on Instagram. Yeah. So, um, the note that Robert Kraft dropped,

it was, it was a lengthy breakup note that he published for the world. Did you have a chance to read it? I did not. Oh, you didn't. You should read it. It's like Robert Kraft dropped it was it was a lengthy breakup note that he published for the world. Did you have a chance to read? I did not oh you didn't you should read it It's like Robert Kraft opened up his diary the one part that stuck out to me was when he said Robert Kraft on X the everything he is not but the New England Patriots are and they released on that lengthy It was pretty three paragraphs. I Mean, it's too long for you to know I'm on dude It's that's like like I am NOT a reader and this didn't make this wasn't like I'm not reading this shit Well, well you didn't read it. I'm sick. I was I what didn't even see it

Why cat? Oh, yeah, Hank. Why don't you read it and then we'll put in like 600 speed after the game today and for Ever made I had no draw for 17 years here in my respect and admiration as a rookie in 2008 and throughout his career For his play on the field his leadership in the locker room in the way He conduct himself in our community when he joined our coaching staff his leadership is even more evident as I saw how the players Responded to him when the other team started requesting an interview I feared I would lose him and committed to making him our next head coach So basically sounds like that. He was just yes. He hired him because he was scared Yeah, he included this in the state. Yeah. It was like, that's

tough. I'm trying to escape blame for this. The only reason I hired him was because I thought somebody else would hire him. That was my mistake. Winning our season. Oprah on the road. It's inside. He strengthened my conviction. So they were, I was, yeah, we're good. We beat Joe burrow on the Bengals dynasty back on Since buying the team. I've always considered myself and my family as custodians of a public asset We have that's a big time. This will be an eight hundred speed All right, you got the So you are gonna get Mike Frabel Yeah, it was basically everyone every every fan base that had an opening

everyone every every fan base that had an opening dreamed of Mike Vrabel I did that I know memes did that if you have an opening you want Mike inside that opening yeah even even the Raiders did that and they don't even have an opening and then this happened it's like well there goes that so Mike Vrabel will be the next coach in the New England Patriots should do you want to report it first for Henry Lockwood no I'll let the things play out I don't want to I don't want to chop the gun. Alright that's fine. Me and Big Cat will do it. Yeah. Per PFT and Big Cat. No per Henry Lockwood. But Hank doesn't want to report it. No I know but you can write whatever you want on a report. That's true. Good report Hank. Per Henry Lockwood. I

don't get why they didn't do. I think of the Patriots. It is. I am of the belief that the answer to that question is yes. Henry Lockwood. Yeah. That's the put it out. Beliefs system memes is the one. So I I wanted Mike Vrabel as the coach of the Bears but I also am in a spot and we'll get to the Bears Packers. I I've already mentally moved on from Vrabel and Ben Johnson because I've heard some things to the grapevine that the Bears are gonna end up with like Brian Flores or the DC of the Dolphins or maybe the Lions, some random college coach that no one's thinking about and it's like oh okay this is awesome. So I already moved on. I already moved on I already moved on memes though memes is a little upset because memes

Was very confident that he's gonna get Mike variable and not only was it company's get Mike variable now He has to deal with the fact that Mike variable is gonna be going against him in the AFC East memes Nothing nothing's confirmed yet. Okay, well no Hank, Hank did. So you're not in denial. No. Are you denying Hank's belief? No. It sounds like you are, though.

I'm denying that nothing is official yet, per me. Mike Vrabel's interest in the Jets was just a smoke screen to pressure the Patriots to make a move in head coach. Yep. Makes sense. Damn. You were used.

Used and abused. Yeah, you were you were a rebound Mike Vrabel went on a date with you took a picture popped it on Instagram his ex is like yeah Let's get back together go back to that one go back to that one was told that Mike Vrabel's dalliance with the jet We were down with some oppression on the Patriots to make a move with a young incredibly promising QB You improved every weekend despite very little talent to drink may write this knows DT Quinn one more cap space than anyone in

What is this tweet ah Just think of Jake he's so confidently so you're clean hold back so you're gonna get Hank just a report that might variables to be your next coach so that other teams don't don't even interview them. No I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to set this franchise back years by cursing it. OK. But would you say overall I mean this it feels like you've come out of this bad season outside

of obviously blowing number one pick today. Pretty damn good. You got a lot of cap space. You got Drake May and you have Mike Vable. There's also a decent to beyond decent chance that the writing was on the wall and Mayo like was gunning for everything to win that game. In which case, why would you let him coach this game? That doesn't make sense. The old lovey Smith. That does not mean I My gut tells me that the writing was on the wall and like players probably had an idea. He definitely had an idea But yeah, they should have just done it before the game the fact that Schefter said it before the game tells me that somebody Somebody knew like people had talked about it and then to let him go out there coach the game win the game

Cost you the first overall pick and all that could have gone along with it for trade that's kind of a weird decision but yes though it's the first Patriots coach to be fired after his first season since since Rod Rust Roddy old Rod Rust in 1990 it doesn't happen often the one and Duns it's probably you know it's probably been what like ten of them in the last 20 years or so Yeah, get rid of a coach one season too early instead of one season too late. And it's actually hard to remember him Steve Wilkes. Oh What's the guy from the Browns Chudzinski? Yeah, did he get one Nathaniel Hackett Freddie kitchens was he I think he was interim. No Freddie. Oh, yeah, he was coach

Was he interim I think he was interim was right no Freddie. Oh, yeah, he was coach Shit, we're going head coach. Would you guys want in done years of trust them off and on Frank right? Oh, yeah He had two years for trust me. Um, see who else. Oh Is there another one in the Cardinals? Shit the Cardinals. No, I don't think so. Oh, this is good the one in Duns Can we get any more? I don't pay for I don't pay for this one and that's uh was was McAdoo. No he had to eat two years Yeah, yeah, a couple two years If you could have started this season and said that Jeff Saturday Drake Bay is gonna. Yeah, well have Saturday It was like one week and done. Yeah, he's gonna be leading all the grass

He's gonna meet the head of the graphs graph talk The Patriots gonna have the fourth overall pick and Mike variable isel is going to be our coach going into 2025. Like that's a win of a season. You could not write up a better season. Hank finished. So I don't, the first pick sucks, but again, you got to look at the big picture. The Patriots finished with the second worst record and they also had probably a very positive season. Yeah. Yeah. At the same time. Yeah. The, the, the arrows pointing up for you. That bagels. I feel, I wish, I wish I could give that wind to the bagels. Oh, that's huge. If you're like Cincinnati, Hank can't, but he, he would love to, if he could, he would love to give you that win. Put you in the playoff. That

sucks for Gerard Mayo. Um, but also kind of not like in a weird way it was like you don't want to be the guy who follows the guy and I got the buffer guy. It's kind of what you did with like Cam Newton. Although Mac Jones wasn't the guy after that. But the buffer guy is always a good guy. It was just like oh yeah there was a guy in between. Being a bad team that if I was hard and I'm just happy that we're kind of have a path outward Like it's it's it's tough to just you know lose week after week Talk turn on your mic. They're still bad. They are still bad. You still don't have a head coach Mike variable could be coaching anybody there's In Jacksonville a lot of places it's better to just move on mentally

memes Jacksonville a lot of places better to just move on mentally Memes, but you would say whoever gets Mike Vrabel that they're gonna be on on the right path for depending on the correct roster Mike Vrabel in Tennessee Inherited a good roster. How does the Patriots cap space look like? Oh good question max 130 million Hmm. How is this free at a lot? How was whose how's this free agent signings? How was the drafting will Compton? Well, I've heard of them that has a lot to do the GM too. Yeah, that's the GM. No it Variable listen memes you're gonna get Aaron Glenn. He did a great job tonight. It'll be fine. He's a good guy Yeah, it's right. You go Rex Ryan

Ron Rivera Yeah, the names go on You see memes is I feel like memes is always one step behind me in the process where it's like I went through this process and I was like, we're not getting Ben Johnson. We're not getting Mike Ravel. You and memes will never be on the same, same thought process ever with your team. I understand. I'm saying I'm one step ahead of him. No, but he'll, but he'll never get to your step. Right. Right. He can never,

he will never accept that the Jets suck Right all right We had this discussion the other night where he was like you the difference between me and you is you were in denial And in memes is like yeah, I was like dude. You're still in denial means like what we could have won 11 games We could have won one season away from what memes success Okay, all right here. We go the one and Dun don'ts. We got right. We got, Oh, lovey Smith was one and done. Yep. Hackett, Cully, could not pick Cully out of a lineup. Urban Meyer. You remember his collars. He always had like unusual collars. Yeah. Uh,

max just clicked away from that very helpful graphic we had up. Yeah. Being one of those guys, David Cully, Freddy kitchens, chip Kelly, like all these guys, you guys you do like do you even say that you used to be? A head coach. I obviously some of them are different You know chip Kelly and urban Meyer are different lovey-smiths different because they coached somewhere else for a very long time but if you're if you're Steve Wilkes if you're David Cully, do you tell do you say to someone like yeah? I was a head coach in the NFL and they're like wait what I think that if you're a David Cully or a Steve Wilkes, and when the time comes and you pass away, it's probably not the first thing that's mentioned about you.

Like former Texas coach? Probably not. No. Okay, you know what, Memes, since we're talking about it. I'd truthfully forgotten that Chip Kelly was the coach of the 49ers. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't go well.

No. He was what, two years at the Eagles and then 49ers. I Want to say three years with might have been three years. Yeah. All right, so means since we're talking about it Let's talk about your big win. You had a huge win Jets 32 Dolphins 20 Aaron Rodgers throws his 500th career touchdown throws three touchdowns look good Ulbrich might be having, he might have something cooking memes.

We were headed in the right direction. I was kind of freaking out during this game because I thought we were going to fall to number nine, but it was a good win. And we just fell, we fell one pick. So it was a good win. It was a good win. It was a good win.

It wasn't a terrible win. It wasn't as bad as the wind could have been no I thought I thought we were falling the nine and it would have been the worst It would have been a horrible one. So Aaron Rodgers look good. Do you think maybe give him an extension? It's gonna be a lame duck quarterback next year Jet fans probably won't like this. I would I would do another year. Yeah, you would there's a denial part well, there's no other options if you lay out all the options It just get a young guy in let Aaron Rodgers teach him Because you try to go to Rie Sleefer good at that. Yeah, but you just try to go for it next year. Okay

Because if you say with Aaron Rodgers that line that he had this season top 15 quarterback That he played this well you would think they won more than five games top 15 quarterback is that's quite a line to draw yeah but do you think he wants to come back to the Jets no he says like Florio told us exactly what was gonna happen he wants he doesn't know he knows dick Florio laid it out he does Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to have to beg to come back He wants to be told he wants the Jets to break up with him And then he can go somewhere else

But if you get Mike variable or Aaron Glenn in there true Mike variables not gonna coach the Jets do anything but Anything could happen the big story though from this game is the dolphins Obviously to it in play so they it didn't matter because the Broncos ended up winning so easily and so quickly But they would have they had a chance to win and get in if the Broncos had lost and then after the game Tyree kill Said that he I just got to do what's best for me and my family if that's here wherever the case may be I'm finna open the that door for myself. I'm opening the door. I'm out, bro. Yep. It was great playing here But at the end of the day, bro, I got to do what's best for my career It's I'm too much of a competitor to just be out there. Do you think that's best for his?

Considerably large family for him to just be like I got I'm gonna leave the state I'm out you guys can move with me if you want. It's the first time he hasn't been in the playoffs So he's dealing with that emotional right after a game. I am going to make a guess that Someone's gonna sit down tire to kill and be like you see all these zeros that they gave you You should stay with the Dolphins. He's like, all right fine. in. Maybe, maybe. And that's kind of what Mike McDaniel said afterwards was like, he's probably very emotional. So I'm not going to talk to him right now. I talked to him a couple of days, but that's as definitive as an answer as I've heard where he's like, I'm out. That is also what I feel like he does that shit all the time. Like

didn't he do, he tweets cryptically about shit like that sometimes where I don't know. I'm not, I'm not surprised by Tyree kill, uh, saying that I need to go coach. Yeah, I need to go coach. I think he might've meant like coach, get me out of here. Yeah. So we'll see how that goes, but the dolphins are back in. And, and then Steven Ross, uh, declared that everyone is safe. Everyone's safe. Stability is important. Stability is important. I mean, they, they did have, they had a decent second half of the season I would say if you're the Dolphins you it's probably worth taking one more shot at this iteration

I would also say that you probably want to invest very heavily in a backup quarterback Yeah, so their plan going into the season was like the Raiders plan going in with their starting quarterback Yeah, which is like you're really gonna do that. We're gonna do Sky Yeah. Which is like, we're you really going to do that? We're going to do Skylar Thompson again. Yeah. We're going to do Snoop Huntley. That's going to be your solution. Get a good back.

Like hope that two of us stays healthy. Yeah. They should run it back. I think Mike McDaniel is a very good coach. Yeah. And they just they got better in the second half of the season, but it does continue. What happened after that that whopping of the Broncos where the Broncos just kept improving and the Dolphins just kept getting worse. Yeah, they kept on getting worse I'm also I'm happy the Broncos are in the playoffs and not the Dolphins. I said this I know Dolphins fans were upset

But I just didn't really want to see Tyler Huntley have to go to Buffalo and play a playoff game and they'll say oh Well, we only lost by three with Skyler Thompson. That's fine. I still would prefer Bo Nix. Yeah, it's probably better for you that you don't have to go through that. Just move on. Yeah. Okay.

Other last two games in the AFC Texans, 23 Titans, 14 the Titans. Wait, there was one other thing from Aaron Rodgers. Oh, yeah. In the post game presser They read him a report at the press conference saying that people close to you have said that you're likely to retire after the season And his answer was people said they were close to me Which is a great turnaround on him like nobody's close to me. Yeah, I like that. He's so mysterious I do like that. So I guess it's not a no I like that. He's so mysterious. I do like that. So I guess it's not a no

Yeah, but I don't think they're yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't guess there's more than like No, there's probably no one close to him. Yeah, probably no one super clip. Well, I watched some of his Netflix I kind of want to do an I was good Devante Adams maybe but not really. Yeah, it did walk off the field again together That was kind of nice. Mm-hmm, cuz they did that last time with the Vonte Adams maybe but not really. They did walk off the field again together. That was kind of nice. Because they did that last time with the Packers. Who knows? I think he's got one or two more years left.

It would be hilarious if he found a way to get to the Vikings. I don't think that's pretty crowded but it would be very funny. Or the Steelers? Steelers. Titans would be a bummer. I could see it though I don't think so I think he's got I think he's got to go to a team with a really good defense and just be a game manager like notes memes gonna say that's the Jets we could we could just load up on say that's the Jets load up on defense what about the

San Francisco 49ers? It's coming home We talked to flurry about that he's won't stop talking about the Jets winning the Super Bowl ever like the ever since we got off The Jets are mics have been muted and he just keeps saying good man If they if they load up paid manning Super Bowl year, what he had nine touchdowns 13 interceptions He had a horrible year and he was a game manager and he got him to the Super Bowl that you can't say get a bad leader back no no no I'm saying if you take Aaron Rodgers with his stats right now yeah

you load up on defense top 15 you you have a chance to do it you know what where are you getting a young von Miller We have Jermaine Johnson come back. Vaughn Miller was out of this world. You could draw someone. He was defense player of the year. You have a defense player of the year. Oh, you never know. Well, McDonald Jermaine Johnson. Okay. I believe if sauce doesn't hit the links this off season and that's true preps. No, he bounced back after Arizona. He had a good second half of the year. Okay All right, tight Texans 23 Titans 14 the Titans finished 2 and 15 against the spread that is a That's about as shocking of a stat as you can have. Yeah, you gotta be pissed. Yeah

15 2 and 15 against the spread The Titans also got the number one pick, which that was kind of out of nowhere. Like that wasn't a team that was going into the season. You would have said they would be the number one pick. And now they have it, and they're probably going to pick a quarterback because they did both today, Will Levis and Mason Rudolph, and it didn't work out. And the Texans did a little warm up. They had CJ Stroud in for one drive six for six fifty yards Joe mixing carried the ball like five times 30 yards touchdown boom. They're ready to go playoffs Damian Pierce with a huge game today

Yeah, yeah, so there yeah that like was a 80 yard run. Yeah, what do you end up with like a hundred seventy something yards? Yeah, I've always liked Damian Pierce But I understand that he hasn't been the player that a lot of people expect him Maybe but I still think he's a nice running back when mixin is not gonna done Yeah, I would like to see them use Pierce a little bit more often, but Yeah, it was this game was not really anything. Nothing really noteworthy. Yeah, Davis Mills landed on his neck Yeah, that was pretty entertaining the Titans wore the Oilers jerseys. Those are always awesome, but they shouldn't get to wear them They shouldn't get to wear them and they got to know at this point karma is not on your side when you wear those

No, no, I think Shepter said Brian Callahan is safe, which I'm happy is I don't think he should be a one-and-done But yeah, this was just a bad team and a very Like season to forget for for the Tennessee Titans. They feel like a little bit of a loss franchise. Yeah. Yeah. Well they have to they have to figure out quarterback. Yeah. But they're in a position where they can do that. Yeah. OK. Last in the AFC Colts 26 Jaguars 23. I'm gonna say it. I think Doug Peterson never lost the locker room. They actually fought pretty hard in this game. He's going to get fired. It would be funny if they just forgot to fire him because he should have. We all thought he's gonna get fired what two months ago. Yeah. After

their bye week. But I don't think he lost the locker room. I mean they played an OT game in week 18 where the season's been over for for months and months and months. He might not have lost the locker room. I bet there was some radical transparency going on in that locker room. I bet you Doug Peterson after the fight was like, guys, just so you know, I'm fired. Yeah. Okay?

I'm not coming back. Just keep trying. But keep trying and remember that you might get signed to a better team if you play well on this team. Yeah. Also Brian Thomas Jr. You're awesome. Yeah.

He had a... Keep doing you. Broke the rookie record 11 games in 75 plus Jr. You're awesome. Yeah, he had a keep doing you broke the rookie record 11 games of 75 plus yards He's awesome. Mac Jones took a hilarious sack third and six In overtime, he took a 16 yard sack where he just was spinning backwards That was very funny. Also, this might have been it for Joe Flacco. Yeah, he went out with a win if he did I think he said he wants to play next year. Good. I want to play next year too, Joe. He actually should be the backup in Miami. That's not a bad idea. Yeah. So did you see the fan of the game that they had today? Yes, Seth. This is our Colts guy. Yeah, yeah. They brought him out before the game. I think they played his his fight song on the Jumbotron before the game. Yeah, great job by Mr. Ursay. But then Mr. Ursay ruined all that goodwill because after the game put out

a statement saying that everybody's safe. Yeah. Everyone's safe. Chris Ballard is getting his jobs, keeping his job. I thought Shane Sikin will be safe. The Chris Ballard thing is insane. It's it. He's Rasputin. Yeah. He's got Jim. He's the only guy that filters stuff out that goes to and from Jim. So he knows exactly what to tell Jim or say to make him feel good about everything. He knows the right buttons to press and then he's got a very safe job because if you can make Jim or say love you or at least think that he can't go on without you. Yeah, then you're just not gonna go anywhere. Yeah, so I would be very frustrated if I was a Colts fan. I feel bad for Colts fans. Chris Ballard is I don't know. It just feels like a mess and

You're just gonna keep going with the mess Because they just are good enough to win seven or eight games and you can you can look at it sideways and be like Oh not too far. Anthony Richardson is not the answer. I've been saying that for a very long time I think most Colts fans agree. If Flacco had played every game this season, you think that they would have had a couple more wins? No, probably not. I mean, he went two and four. Yeah. So I don't know if you can say Flacco was the answer. It wasn't the answer, but he might've been an improvement over Anthony Richardson. But he wasn't record. And we could be talking yofs. But he wasn't record wise. Yeah. But there were some game. You remember Anthony Richardson lost some very winnable games.

For sure. For sure. But Joe Flacco also a couple of game winning drives lost. Yeah, he did. He had a couple of really nice ones. Um, I mean, maybe who knows? Maybe he'll figure it out. I just, I've never been the biggest fan.

I am rooting for him to figure it out a little bit because it does feel like the whole world's coming at him and that sucks. But he was like a nice guy. Seems like a nice guy and the stories are not great. And I also I want to give a little credit to the Colts. I don't remember the last time I've seen exactly this, but if you look at the box score, Jonathan Taylor was the only one to have a carry for the Colts and he had 34 of them. I love that. Yeah, that is cool. 34 for 177, not a single carry by anyone else.

I love that. Well, I thought that Flacco ran with the ball one time. It wasn't. It was a penalty probably. Yeah, and I think it might even have been a sack because he didn't get there. Okay. But yeah, it was just a cool stat to look at,

that Jonathan Taylor, that's a real bell cow. Look at that, look at that. You to look at the Jonathan Taylor. That's a that's a real bell cow Look at that. Look at that. You'll see that very often. It's clean Yeah, that's as clean as it gets clean ass box Joe Flacco through all the passes Jonathan Taylor ran all the balls Man, the Colts are a bummer and the Jags are a bummer too, but the Jags are gonna get Ben Johnson I've I've resigned myself to that. I think that, that's exactly what's gonna happen. You're gonna get Trevor Lawrence back? What do you mean? Like they're gonna get sure? Yeah, they're gonna get Trevor Lawrence back and they're gonna get Ben

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He is so goddamn good and the Lions win the NFC North they you know, I I Don't want to say deserved but the Lions were That was I mean after watching that game they deserved it because they they throttled the Vikings Vikings offense looked Abysmal tonight. Yeah, the Vikings tried to do the Dan Campbell thing and they thought like a lot of us like you have to score touchdowns To win this game. Yeah, so they instead of kicking field goals I think turn the ball over on downs twice inside like the five yard line. Yep It seemed like Kevin O'Connell was thinking to himself like in order to beat

Dan, I have to become Dan. And they could Sam Darnold was bad tonight. He was really bad. And he's usually very good against the Blitz. But he was not tonight. He was terrible against the blitz. Yeah, overthrowing. Just didn't see it look like he could not see it. And Alex Anzaloni coming back felt like it was a big boost for the Lions defense. You see his arm? Yeah. Anzolone's arm with all the stitches on. Crazy. It's absolutely insane. It looks like

he turned his forearm into a football. Yeah, it's it's crazy. What do you say like, everybody wants to be a dog until you have to do dog shit. Yeah, he did some dog shit tonight. Yeah, that's a hard quote. That is a very hard quote. I'd like to say that at some point in my life. Yeah, but the Lions now have home field advantage and the Vikings have to go on the road to the Rams. I am officially back to worried about my pinky because the Vikings were not inspiring tonight. Now you could make the argument and I thought about it after you know, you know, when you're watching a game, you're like, man, I feel

stupid for this. The way the Vikings celebrated after winning the Packers game, it did feel like they maybe got a little ahead of themselves like we did it. And this game, I mean, it wasn't, I know it was close in the first half, but it wasn't close in the fact that the Vikings, they just couldn't make a big play when they needed to at any point. Yeah. The run game was okay. The camp makers had that big run and then what happens like they can't score. It's just it was time and time again They weren't able to make a big play What would they have two times they got they get?

For you know turn over on downs within the line lions five yard line. Mm-hmm. This couldn't make a big play Yeah, they tried to beat them in the first half by saying we're gonna have to get six every time we're down here. And then the the Lions will break off big plays against you. Yes, a matter of when they tried to do the thing in the first half where they're like, okay, Gibbs, we're gonna spell them for a little bit with was it Patrick? Reynolds, my bad. Yeah, Reynolds. And then they thought to themselves, why are we doing this? We don't have to have like

a two running back system. Let's just feed Gibbs. Yeah, no Gibbs was, uh, he had 139 yards rushing 31 yards receiving four touchdowns. He did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to do it. And I, it's a lot of credit to Aaron Glenn, future coach for memes. I felt like he had a perfect defensive scheme for Sam Donald and he just, he was never comfortable and it never felt like the Vikings could get any type of momentum. Like I don't remember, we watched that whole game. Do you remember more than, I mean they had that cam acres run all the way down. They had a, they had the Jared golf, uh, interception and like the 50 yard line. They almost had another pick six from Jared. Yeah, but I don't remember any drive where it felt like the Vikings went down

the field and it was like play after play they were they were hitting it and found a rhythm. They had no rhythm. Their rhythm was like occasional passes to Naylor. Yeah. And besides that they weren't really doing a whole lot. Are you, now that the Lions have home field advantage, Max, were you kind of hoping for the Vikings to be the one with the home field advantage? Okay, so how does this how does this change your the way the Lions also? They they really turned it on in the second half, but in the first half Oh, yeah, I looked very beatable, but their defense was always there their defense played there That was the best defensive performance the Lions had had a time. Aaron Donald had three, how many times is it? I mean, Aaron

Donald, Sam Darnold had, how many times did you just miss a wide open guy in the end zone? But he was part of the pressure. Like he was so, but Sam Darnold, Sam Darnold sucked, but it's still like you, I'm giving credit to lions and the fact that they have had some really bad defensive performances in the last month And they've been very injured. This was a very good defensive performance by the Lions. Would you not agree? They had him just completely flustered. What do you end up 18 for 41? Do you think Sam Donald cost himself some money tonight? He might have but at the same time it's like one game Well, it's it's basically it's an important game

I don't think he cost himself money tonight But it could be if he has a bad game next Monday Yeah, cuz then it's like cuz this was a playoff it made you think a little bit Yeah, it made you think oh shit. That wasn't good Yeah, I don't think that we can look at this and be like Sam. Donald is back into a pumpkin No, but if Monday night if if let's just say Vikings fans probably aren't feeling super easy right now. No, I mean they lost to the Rams. I know. I'm saying they don't they don't feel easy. Yeah, they went to sleep not feeling easy. And I'm telling

you Vikings kicker, his face, negative confidence. I know he kicked it Alabama, but it's just negative confidence. He had he did kick a couple in the first half He kicked a couple and then at the end of the half He kicked it out of bounds with 20 seconds left the Lions were able to get it three points out of it Mm-hmm, and he missed a 52 yard or later on in the game and miss it badly too badly And then you could tell he was thinking about it, right and you could also tell he was like damn This is late for a school night. Yeah. I need to get home. He is face bald.

He got to have a kicker that has at least the ability to grow a beard. Yeah. So yeah, this, um, it looked like Aaron Glenn had the answers like written down before the game even started. Right. Like it was never even an option that was going to be close. That shot of him sitting on the sideline. Yeah.

He sat down and he was just hanging out. Yeah. Like this is so easy. He's like, we got this. I got Sam Dronald in my back pocket because I feel like even though Sam is good typically against the blitz, not all blitzes are created equal. Yeah. So what is it saying for, uh, Taryn Arnold's possible fibula possible fibula, uh, external rotation of ankle worry for high ankle sprain but officially a foot. Well he does have a foot. That is officially a foot. But they also have the

bye now. And their second round matchup, how would you feel about going to the Lions? Anybody, anytime, anywhere. I like that. That's smart. That's smart. And it could be the Vikings going back to the Lions. That is true. Very true. I mean, if everyone holds serve except for the Vikings or the Rams. That's what Dan Campbell said to O'Connell after the game. What'd he say? He said, see you in two weeks. Oh. Wow.

NFC North pride. That's disrespectful. That's good for you, Max. That means the Eagles won. Yeah, I would take that win. Dan Campbell said you were gonna win. Dan Campbell's a winner. What a season for the Lions, 15 and two.

Do you think that he was gonna go for that? No, I don't. I actually don't. Dan Campbell's crazy. So what Max is asking is, there was a moment in the game with about six minutes left, and the Lions were up 15 points.

And it was fourth and two from the six yard line-ish, the Vikings six yard line. The Lions got to the line of scrimmage like they were going for it. Got the Vikings to go off sides. I actually think he was going to kick the field goal there. Yeah, he was not going to go for it. You don't know that.

No, he was. I know I don't know that. I didn't say I know it. No, PFT said it. I know it for it. You don't know that no, he was I know I don't know that I didn't say no I know he said it. I know no you don't I know they they were not gonna go for it They changed their entire cadence. Did you hear the broadcast? Yeah, but they could change their entire call the timeout and then gone for it Dan Campbell has definitely done that before no cuz it was it would have been to make it an 18-point lead max I'm gonna go for Dan Campbell does dumb shit all the time like that. No he does winning shit. He's a winner. He's 15 and 2. Has he won a Super Bowl? No

but he's has Nick Sirianni? Does he have the highest winning percentage in the NFL? This year? And yeah. Out of current active NFL head coaches. This season. Did you just learn a new stat? No I've already said that. I said this last week. Okay, so if you want to talk about regular season winning Nick Sirianni is a winner. Yeah, but yeah, but then Campbell's good regular season winner. So Nick Sirianni, let's see what happens in the playoffs. But Dan Campbell also took took over a dumpster fire of a team. Nick Sirianni took over a team that had won a Superbowl two years before. Yeah. And then they were coming off a dumpster fire every year that led to firing a bad coach. You're talking about the Detroit Lions. I mean, Dave Campbell went three and 13 his first year on a terrible team that has rebuilt

everything. Dan Campbell is a better winner. You can't say that a guy's a bona fide winner until he wins a Super Bowl. It's that how many times we're going to say it. We say it about every other guy and every other sport win a Super Bowl Then you're a winner Okay, it's a winner win a Super Bowl. Then you're a winner. You got Hank What are your thoughts about the regular season when you got the one seed don't mean shit. Okay. Thank you All right win a Super Bowl and then you're a winner. So there's like barely any winners Bill Belichick winner Sean McVeigh Sean McVeigh winner. OK. Mike Tomlin winner. Mike McCarthy.

Mike Tomlin. Is there an expiration on that. No winner. OK. Because it does feel like there could be an expiration on like Kevin. Kevin Ali winner. Yeah. Like those are. But like you get you. You can't just say someone's a good coach because they're a winner. Doug Peters and they've never won. I remember how this debate started. Max is getting overly emotional because he's afraid of the lines. OK. So he's trying. No no no.

It just said Dan Campbell does the same shit as Nick Sirianni but for some reason no for some no Dan Campbell wrong people they're wrong. That it's because he's a winner. No. Dan Campbell does it consistently and he has like he he shows Nick Siriano You know that Nick Siriano chooses when when and when not to do it. He does stuff sometimes where he kind of loses his mind So does Dan Campbell, you know, but it's always consistent I've made this argument a million times Dan cable is crazy, but then he should have He should have gone for it. No, he was no that's this that if you're saying that that no saying no

Because it actually made sense to kick it there to go up three score does shit That doesn't make sense all the time. Has he done that? What I I can't remember the exactly literally we should go up three scores. He might have I don't know Do you have a time? No, but there there was something in that in that I Think what was it the Bills game in the late in the fourth quarter where we were like Yeah, kick the the the no he went outside kick that was no that wasn't it are talking about it against the Cowboys no was this it was a Sunday it was a Sunday night game are you fine to do a little homework and come back to us okay next why are you so upset that we're lavishing praise on Dan Campbell for getting I'm not I'm not

right lines everyone's an enemy right now it's play correct everyone's an enemy okay yeah everyone everyone's an enemy it's playoffs except actually there's only one team that's not an enemy for you the commanders well they could be if they make it to the yeah but you're right there you're just assuming that they're not gonna make no no no no I'm saying that at least for a few weeks, you don't have to... Like the commanders and you guys can't play each other for at least two weeks. No, everyone's an enemy. But you can't play each other for two weeks. You know who's not an enemy?

Bears. You know who's not an enemy? Jets. You know who's not an enemy? Patriots. Those who aren't enemies. You know what? Fine, fuck it, I'm not gonna give you the blueprint on how to beat the Packers.

Fair. You shouldn't have done that. I could have told you all the secrets because that's all I do is beat the Packers. All right. That was good. Talk about the lions. We were talking about the lions. Yeah. So the lion. We said a lot of nice things about the lions until Max had to just Mode I love it let the fucking Detroit Lions fans. Enjoy a one seed max They're 15 and all I was doing was just asking the question of whether he was gonna go for it And then this car I do not fire was going to go for it. I Do not think he was gonna go for it. Yeah Obvious also, this is just a hypothetical that has no answer. So there was a stupid thing

You're saying like first place if it hadn't worked which was you have to max you have to be consistent, right? We've talked about this if you're to criticize him You have to compliment him for going with it and having a plan where it worked it end up that did work Yeah, it did work that did work. Uh, it did work. That did work. Uh, and listen, if the lions defense can play like that and Vikings offense is good. If the lions defense play like that, they are, that was the perfect, if you ask the lions for him before the game, that was the perfect way for that night to end,

when the NFC North and do it with your defense looking good. You didn't want to win a game, another game where it was 45-42 and you're like going into the playoffs feeling like look at what happened against the Bills, look at what happened with the Niners game with like a bunch of backups and they were just going up and down the field. That was, that felt good. And they didn't do it with huge chunk plays either. Yeah. They did just by grinding them down. Yeah. Yeah. So Credit Alliance, one seed deserve it. 15 wins sucks for the Vikings winning 14 games and having to go on the road.

But that's just how good the NFC North was this year. Yeah. So they're going to go to Los Angeles on Monday night and it's, I'm a little bit worried too. This is the same Donald face mask game. We can, we can talk about the Rams when we talk about the Rams. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I'm worried. Uh. I'm just worried. Okay, so the other the other thing we had to decide in besides seeding in the NFC today was the Bucks Bucks 27 Saints 19 Bucks win the NFC South Bucks get the three seed going to take on your commander's PFT. This was a weird game because the Bucks

for the first two and a half quarters looked like they thought they could just show up and win this game without even trying. They looked like garbage to start the game. Yeah, it was very sloppy. And then Baker Mayfield had back to back drives that ended the game essentially where they went 12 plays 82 yards 12 plays 94 yards touched on touchdown

They let they let I guess the the Bucks were correct in the strategy of like hey Spencer out of Rattler can't play four quarters Where he's good, and that was correct But the Bucks looked slow finished strong and then we had Mike Evans get his thousandth yard, which now makes him tied for Jerry Rice 11 seasons, thousand yards. Pretty awesome accomplishment. He's in hall of fame wide receiver. Very, very cool.

The last play of the game though, where they hit Mike Evans on that. You like that? I do. I didn't like it. $3 million. I like it. Yeah. Okay. I get that. I get that part it three million dollars. I like it. Yes. Okay, I get that yeah that part of it Yeah, but also what I don't like is it it looked like the guy on the Saints that was matched up against him was like

Yeah, just run your five-yard out I'm gonna turn around and go downfield like you're running a deep route and then we'll turn around tackle you if this is Mike Evans Two things one if this is Mike Evans second year in the league third year in the league like that's bullshit He's been in league for over a decade. He's a veteran, seems like an awesome dude. I'm okay with it for five yards. And the second thing, the more important thing, I'm okay with it because he missed,

what, four or five games for injury? If he had played all 17 games and they needed that shit to get him a thousand yards, I'd be like, oh, come on, dude. But how many, how many games did he end up missing or not play? Because that like he would have gotten a thousand yards if he didn't get injured. Yeah, I know injuries are part of the game, but that does change it a little bit in my head. And he was only what, like five yards away from it. He was five yards

away. It wasn't like, you know, he needed a hundred yards. Maybe I'm old school, big cat. I don't like the idea of a guy letting you have yards. You got to fight for every yard of this league. So he played 13 games because he got injured in one of them, I believe. So so yeah, he I mean, he missed four games, he would have had it easily if he hadn't gotten injured. I'm, I'm okay with it. I don't know. I like 3 million bucks, dude. Yeah, I'm happy for him to make the money. I'm curious to know what Jerry Rice's thoughts are I Don't know more gas we have to ask Jerry Jerry Rice. He wants those yards back. Yeah

Yeah, I I had no problem with it I mean the only argument I would I would consider is like it technically is a very dumb thing because what if Tragedy happens and you throw a pick and your playoffs are on the line. Yeah that's what I'm saying like it could have cost that part makes sense. I just yeah I would have liked it a lot more if the Saints had at least pretended to play defense on it. Yeah done a little done a little something something. Otherwise it just looked it like a scripted play. Were you looking at me like that for max? Nothing, continue. You found something? Yeah I found exactly what I was what I was talking. Okay, so go ahead

Against the against the Packers, okay on green No, you can't cut it do not cut this do not cut what I what I really was gonna say was In that same game, it didn't work out They were up three points at the beginning at the beginning where at the very end of the third quarter went for it and fourth down and they're on their own 30 didn't get it gave up a touchdown gave up the lead but the Lions came back and won. Okay that has also like not three point lead which on their own 30 but that's not the same as what we're talking about and kicking a field goal to make it 18 points good. Oh man

Well, that's why that's why I didn't even that's what I didn't want to talk about this You said you looked at me and I and I thought exactly what I was talking about Good work Max. I'm cutting the Yes, I am Anything about it. There's nothing I can do about it and I wouldn't know if you cut it or didn't. So that sucks. Uh, other two, Jalen McMillan is awesome. Yeah. He's very good. He's really good. I still love Bucky. Yeah. Bucky is awesome. Uh, don't you, you gotta get in war mode. Don't compliment them too much. I can compliment him. I'll compliment him. You don't great player. Don't

just the rookie though. The, they brought the duck back. Did you see that? I did see that. Duck was there. You gotta, I gotta get ready. You might have to go down and kill that dog. I think we got to sign Carson Wentz to be the backup down there and execute that fucking duck. Yes. Uh, what, what the hell did the saints do? Has the saints who's gonna, who's gonna take saints head coaching? I don't know. I don't know who's going to get the saints job. It could be, it could be real wild card of a higher

I feel like there has been every open job has had someone name attached except for the Saints. Mm-hmm She's gonna get whoever's left. I'm thinking I'm thinking it's gonna be somebody very boring true breeze Give it a shot. Yeah. Yeah, he's boring. What about coach? Oh coach. Oh be sick Give it a shot. Yeah. He's boring. What about coach? Oh, coach. Oh, be sick So I mean, okay, here's what I'll say about the Buccaneers congrats to them was this five straight playoff appearances Bit of an NFC South merchant those those Buccaneers if you ask Stephen shade They're one of the most dominant teams of the first half of this day. The NFC South has been so fucking bad outside of the Tom Brady years. Great for the Bucks. Good job. You won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady at the end of his career. That's

awesome for you. The NFC South has been so bad year in year out. Panthers. What about him? Kim Newton. No, he's talking about the last five. Yeah, last five years. A bit of an NFC South merchant, if we're being honest. Yeah, even Tom Brady's last year. What did they finish? Nine and eight. And then they did beat us in the playoffs? No, no that was they lost 20 20 I'm gonna football. Yeah, 20 20, but I do like Baker. I'm gonna have to turn on Baker this week. He's such a dog He ends the season with four thousand four hundred ninety nine yards forty four total touchdowns 71.4 percent completion percentage. He's awesome. Mm-hmm he did the thing today where he ran over a guy and then stepped over him and

And basically started an entire fight between both teams while walking away. He was like keep talking about me while I'm gone Yeah, he was the Joker meme with the with walk away from the children's hospital blowing up Yeah, this is what I just started. Yeah Baker scares me a little bit. I'll be honest Jalen McMillan also should probably put his guns away for the playoffs Yeah, so that was an interesting moment because he did the the first down sign Yeah, but they thought he had like trigger fingers or at least a handgun as one of his hands But he actually had his fingers taped together from an injury. Yes, then he goes up to the ref and shows him It's not a gun. My fingers were just taped together. Yeah, is that an excuse? No, because they kept the penalty

Yeah, it's not an excuse. Yeah, also the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would never allow guns in their stadium No besides the giant Alright, so you are you worried? Are you ready? You wanted the box? No, I said you wanted the but I wanted anybody I really wanted the Eagles. I'm bummed out that we're not gonna get the Eagles. I wanted that The Rams concern me because Sean McVay concerns me. The Bucs also, I mean we saw it in that game against the Cowboys on Sunday football. Like they don't, I feel like they don't rush the passer great. So that should give Jayden a lot of time.

They're good at stopping the run though. They are good at stopping the run. Todd Bull is kind of a bird brain when it comes to making decisions about things. That was one play that sticks in my mind from this game today was Clyde-Edward Zolaire got a little bit of daylight and he ran into Vita Ve and Vita Ve didn't even tackle him, he just stood with his belly out. Yeah. And he literally ran into him and fell backwards.

Yeah, Vita Ve does concern me a lot. Yeah, he's a monster. Another guy who doesn't wear gloves. Yeah. Scary. So, I mean, you guys could win this game. It's a three-point spread. Yeah, three-point spread. Also, Mike Evans, great player.

Very happy that he got 1,000 yards. That was very nice to see. I was cheering super hard for that. Marshawn Latimore kind of has a history of locking him down and getting him kicked out of games. They like to fight. They like to fight. Mm-hmm They like to fight a lot. I think the stats are that historically Marshawn Lattimore limits him to like three catches per game and

Something like 47 yards per game. Hmm. So that's that's good if Lattimore plays. Okay, he's the victory He's the victory Lattimore plays bring not with a shotgun. Well, he didn't play today. Okay. But, I mean, you guys sat Jaden half the game. He's a Bucs specialist. Yeah. He'll be back. Okay.

Next up, in the NFC South. The Bucs look like they were going to maybe blow this, but it turns out the Falcons were going to blow it on their own anyway. Panthers 44, Falcons 38. Bryce Young was incredible. Five total touchdowns, 250 yards. Did you see he did the Steph Curry look away? Yeah.

So he threw a touchdown pass and before the pass was even caught, he turned around and started celebrating. I like that we've reached a point in the Bryce Young reclamation where he's like stunting on people now. Yeah. What a turnaround that's stunting on people now. Yeah. Like what a turnaround that's been literally in this game. Yeah. He had, so since he got benched when he came back, he's had 20 total touchdowns, six interceptions,

2,100 yards and 61% completion percentage. And Dave Canales said after the game, we've got our guy. And I'm happy for Bryce Young. I'm happy for the Panthers that this season was going in such a bad direction and Dave Canales coach of the year should probably get some credit. Yeah. So is, is O'Connell still your coach of the year? Uh, not after tonight.

I think it's Dave Canales. What about Dan Campbell? It might be Jeff Olbrich. Mine might be Dan Campbell. My mind might be Jeff. I just love how consistent he is. Yeah. He's a Dan Campbell's Mine might be Jeff Hooper. I just love how consistent he is. Yeah. He's a winner.

Dan Campbell's a winner. Winner. But yeah, the Panthers arrows pointing up and the Falcons, I don't fucking know where their arrows pointing because they're just the Falcons. Yeah, but I feel like Penix is the guy. You ready to say it already? I think he's the guy. Already?

I'm ready to say right now I think he's the guy. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I need to see more. I'm just, they're just the Falcons. How do you know you need to win this game? They lose the two games in ridiculous fashion. The last two weeks, they fought all the way back into the division. I, they're just the Falcons. They're the Falcons. They're just the most frustrating organization to look at from afar. Yeah, but I think they're overall this season. It turned around a little bit. You got more exciting.

You got a better glimpse of the future. You saw that Kirk Cousins is not the guy and you can move forward. But that's even the Falcons. The fact that they did Kirk Cousins signing and Michael Penick's drafting, we said at the time, made no sense. It looks even dumber now because you could, maybe if Kirk Cousins plays two years and brings Michael Penick's along and you get to the playoffs with Kirk Cousins, you can tell yourself, hey, that was actually good in the long run. None of that happened. And you just wasted all that money and took a pit and took Michael Pennings, who I'm not ready to say he's the guy. I just, they're

just the most frustrating organization. So do you think that it's going to be any sort of possibility that Kirk Cousins plays next year for the Falcons? No. I mean, why would you if you're Kirk Cousins or if you're the Falcon, if you're the Falcons? No. I mean, why would you? If you're Kirk Cousins or if you're the Falcons? If you're the Falcons. The only explanation would be that the Achilles is like a two year recovery. But why would you, why would you like he probably wants to start. There's no reason to start him. You drafted Michael Pennex. You already went to him. He's the he is your guy now. Because weird stuff happens. I mean, the Falcons are a weird organization. They are very much a weird organization, but that would be insane if they were like hey Michael Pennex

You're not our starter next year open open competition. That would be nuts. It would be crazy. No, I think I think they'll They'll probably try to unload them somewhere trade them. I don't know where maybe he's the Raiders I guess the reason why I still kind of like the Falcons is because they've got good Good very good players on offense. Yeah, they draft number one and awesome Drake London Awesome, Michael Pinnix summer saying he looks like the guy Kyle Pitts. Whatever. Yeah, he's there Yeah, good offensive line. Yeah, but No, I just the Falcons arrows pointed. I don't know because of the Falcons, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah.

OK, Commanders 23, Cowboys 19. Marcus Mariotta played the second half in this game, won this game with no time left, basically. That had to feel good. Yeah, it was great. Terry McLorin set the Commander's record, the franchise record for most touchdowns in a year with that last touchdown catch. I'm just very happy for Terry. And the season has just been like 12 wins is unreal.

Yeah. Never in a million years, I think 12 wins. And I was looking at the roster and how far this team has turned around in a very, very short amount of time, which is why anytime a coach tells you four years for rebuild, they're full of shit. Yeah. Don't listen to that coach. Uh, we have 13 total pro bowlers this year. So that obviously includes the selections and then the alternates after that. Out of those 13, how many of those guys do you think were brought in under the Ron Rivera era? One, zero. Oh, none of them. 10 of them are brand new this year. First year with the team.

Wait, who brought in Terry? Terry, I believe that was Jay Gruden. Okay, I think he drafted Terry. Okay. So yeah, the turnaround has been just unreal. And I feel like this has been a dream season. I hope that Jayden's okay. They said that he had leg soreness after the game. Oh, I thought he was just being I thought he was just sitting him because like, this is kind of crazy. He was getting hit, like a decent amount. That's what can look super sharp.

Yeah. So concerns me is the first half, our offensive line wasn't great. The center or backup center wasn't really able to handle Michael Parkins when or Michael Parsons when they hire, they lined him up right over top of them. Jading got killed a little bit. His leg was sore. He said he would have played if it meant something. Okay. But it kind of did mean something

Yeah, and then he didn't play and then Marcus looked pretty good. Are you bummed that you don't get to play the Eagles? I'm so bummed. I wanted the Eagles, but it's anyone anytime anywhere. That's what I say We're rooting for the Bears against the Packers or now for them. I was rooting for my friend big cat Yeah, he's being a good friend. I was being you should try it sometime. Simultaneous wins was great. Yeah. It was like within five seconds of each other. We had, oh, we do. We even mentioned we had the PM. Oh yeah. We all want to get today. That's pretty insane. I don't think that's ever happened. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. You all looked it up and said it was the first time since 2017. Wow. And, and, but that would have been just three. I don't know.'s 2017. I didn't I didn't do too much research

Someone just said 27. I mean you're getting five teams Next year we got to do that every single week. I do the parlay money line parlay on them That's great. Oh my god. I lose so much money, but I want a lot today What is it? Yeah bears were ten point underdog. Yeah, sure sure sure and Max. I'll honestly answer your question I was rooting for the Bears. I was I was doing it to support big cat and also because theoretically right right theoretically The commanders could host the NFC championship game now mm-hmm in theory and I actually You missed this part max, but PFT whispered me at one point

He's like hey I want the Bears to win this game so that you can share all the secrets with max on how to beat the Packers Yeah, he said that shit now. You said you won't do that anymore. Yeah, so now sorry So you should try out being a good friend once in a while by the way Dan Campbell went for it on fourth down on it in a tie game with 30 seconds to go again That's not just saying it's a different. It's not that's what that's what I was trying to find That's not just saying it's a different. That's what that's what I was trying to find Well earlier when someone got cut. Oh, no, you gotta bring the segment back. Nope. Yeah

Max tried to know you got to leave that in I'll leave some of it in okay I'm sure you'll have another update about Dan Campbell's coaching errors Probably wasn't an area. He got it. Oh, yeah, okay It was a tie game with 30 seconds left tie game with 30 seconds it and did they win correct? And where was the bar? This is the whole yeah, whatever so is Nick Sirianni I got a question for you guys about the commanders because I'm blinded by him like I again I feel like this whole thing's been a dream because it's it's crazy from the owner to the head coach The quarterback all this shit. I have a question for you. Yeah. Are the commanders a likable team? Um, yes. Yeah. Cause I think I thought you're gonna ask a different question that Hank was going to have a hard time answering. Okay.

Ask I think I think the commanders are likable. I root for them. I do think a little too much. He smiles on to bother me a little bit, but I think they're a likable team. I like Dan Quinn, Terry McLaurin. I like, I like Brian Robinson. It's similar to the lines. I mean, they've all got to say Lou is awesome. Yeah. They've obviously won. They've won. Yeah, they've won super bowl. So it's a little different than the lines, but it's like teams that are, have been bad for a long time. Yeah. Once they're likable, it's you root for them. Cause I, I have no friend or reference as to whether I guess the only thing I Can point to is that we're playing in the Sunday night game, which means that somebody wants to watch us

Yeah, I mean that's Jaden Daniels Jane Daniels. Yeah, he's had an incredible season that that's the Sunday game I think we're gonna ask a very different question. Okay, ask the question I was gonna ask should I ask it to you or Hank ask it to hang? Okay Do you do you think the Washington commanders are good? Do you do you think the Washington commanders are good? Hey turn to me in the middle of the Cowboys creators gave me goes they fucking okay I was thinking about the Saints game too. I was like I've been last few games. We've been watching like they have Struggling yeah against really bad team. Here's the thing about the commander We're not that good, but

Here's the thing about the commanders though. We're not that good, but Jayden Daniels finds a way to do things at the end of games. And today was Mariota, but if you look at, since the Hail Mary game, we've scored like a million times in the last minute, minute and a half of games. Yeah. And just- Max, fact check that.

Crazy endings. Max, I think it was a million times that we scored. The commanders- Less than a million. I honestly don't think that the commanders are a great football team. We might not even be very good, but. But you're in the playoffs year one.

Yeah. You know what we are? Is we're winners. Yeah. Yeah. And we figure out ways to. That's true. We're figuring out ways.

Dan Quinn's a winner. We figure out ways. He was a Super Bowl winning at one time head coach. Yes. That's facts. And something happens at the end of games where time slows down for usually Jaden in this case, Marcus, and it just ends up working out somehow. I don't know how they do it. I don't think that they're a very good team. But they're so fun to against bad teams. Yeah, it's bad. Well, the Eagles, the Eagles are good team. True. Well, they're playing the Kenny Pickett. Yeah, you girls are good team We'll see us. I'll be Score when Jalen does Kenny Pickett play defense. That's true. Good point the Eagles defense good. That's good point. Okay, but they could have if

Jalen hurts god max now Commanders, he's trying to find Dan Campbell stats. You know, I already found I found the one and the one you're exactly you're saying no I was wrong it was by the way it was the one I was exactly what I was saying but I got mixed up and whatever what I got nervous I got nervous and when I went to say the one that I was actually saying I was like oh that was actually good idea but I didn't realize it was tied when he went for it on. Yeah. Yeah. Max do you think the commanders are good. Yeah. No I think they're honest Max. I think they're. I mean they're definitely they're a playoff. I think that I think they could beat the Bucks. Mm hmm. I like. Yes I would agree. The Bucks. I think they're good enough. Yeah I think

they're good enough to win it to win a playoff game. Here's the thing. I don't think there's anywhere near Super Bowl contender. I think that there are one of two things that's going to happen against the Bucs. One, we're going to win in the last 45 seconds of the game. Some crazy shit's going to happen. Todd Bowles will probably screw something up in terms of a time out or a go-forward strategy, because he's no Dan Campbell.

And then we somehow figure out a way to win a game that we were losing by 17 points in the first half. That's option number one. Option number two is we lose by like 25 points. Because we're not we're not good, but we win. And we're fun. Wait, would you win in option one? You said Yeah, option one is we win. So commander's moneyliner bucks alternate spread. Yeah, that would not be a bad bet. I might have to do that. But I love this team. Equal amounts.

I love this team. Yeah. Mike McCarthy, they asked him after the game. What do you thought about his future? Did you hear his quote? No, he said I don't like to talk about myself. But I'll just be clear. I'm a winner. I know how to win. He max. He said I'm actually is a winner. He said I won a Super Bowl in this building as a matter of Yeah, I'm actually going to complement the Steelers don't really the commanders don't really get blown out of games No, so like I like don't agree with that I think it's gonna be a well the bug the Bucks blew us out, but week one we can ravens Oh, no, that was yeah, one score. They lost by you seven points. Yeah, so like I don't think that that's necessarily I

Feel like that would be going out on a limb to say that it's gonna be a blowout or the commander's win I just think that there's a good chance that the Bucs get up on an early lead against us And then if you know a couple things don't break our way Then it's gonna be Pretty ugly in the second half, but there's an equally good chance where we're losing by 17 And we end up winning by two I Don't think like I think it's gonna be a competitive game. I don't know necessarily who's going to win I think the commanders can win that game. Yeah, there was a great moment in this game. It reminded me a lot of

The Bears Hail Mary where your cornerback started celebrating and waving goodbye to the crowd Malik Hooker on fourth down Put his hand up to be like we got this stop against Marcus Mariotta as Marcus Mariotta still had the ball And was running like 30 yards downfield. That was a great screenshot to look at We also had a cheerleader get absolute domed by a kickoff. That should count as a point. She got smoked Yeah, that should count as a point. She got smoked. Yeah, that's a count as a point disagree. Why? Be funny. I think hitting women shouldn't count as a pie I didn't say I didn't say women I said cheerleader true there are man I never said I never said the gender of the cheerleader Dallas Cowboys

Historically have could be good. You don't know you don't know cheerleaders come in all shapes and sizes Yeah, that was that was a crazy, crazy kick. That was Aubrey right? Yeah. And doesn't Evan McPherson or is it the other Bengals kicker that dates? Evan McPherson I think has his girlfriend or fiancees on. On the cab, but that was not her.

Yeah. That got hit. I don't think so. But yeah that was crazy. It was like a bullet. Yeah. Yeah and then they zoomed in on her. She wore that like a champ.

She did. She did. Shout out Tressway. Ask her if she was OK. Great guy. Yeah. Yeah. And then they zoomed in on her. She wore that like a champ. She did. She did. Shout out Tress way. Ask her if she was okay. Great guy. That is awesome. Great job, Tress. Great job, Tress. Um, are anything else in this game? No, I think I'm ready for the off. I think that I'm ready for the offs. This much like the Broncos season. This whole season was a win no matter what. Yeah, definitely. Obviously, I want to win in the playoffs. But yeah, this is it's been a great year. What map out a road? Okay, here's the road.

Because I know you've done in your head. Yeah, we might as well do it for for us. Okay, so we beat the Bucks. Okay. Then the Packers beat the Eagles, which would break my heart because I want to see I want to play against the Eagles at some point. That which would break my heart because I want to see, I want to play against the Eagles at some point. That would legit break my heart because I would have robbed of getting to cheer for the Eagles demise. So that, but that's part of the road. Part of the road is we somehow take over home field advantage.

All right. So that happens. And then what was it? What was that face? There's a way that you said that. I feel like there's, there's's gonna be a part of you rooting for the Packers Absolutely not max I can be more clear you need to end the Packers and then I'll root against you. I am

110 percent Eagles on Saturday Well Sunday you and Hank. It's it couldn't be more clear if the Packers beat you If the Packers beat you and I I'm not even allowed to make fun of you for losing, that's the worst. You'll make fun of me. No, because you should be like, the Packers just won. Let's get back to the commander. All right, go ahead.

All right, here's the path. Okay, we beat the Bucks, then we've got the Packers beating the Eagles. Then we have the, I'm going to say the Vikings beating the Rams. And then you've got the bite of the ramp. Sorry, all the all the all upset. Yeah, 567. And then you've got the Lions. They would have to play the Packers. The Packers beat the Lions. You beat the fight. We beat the we beat the Vikings. Okay, that's possible. That's it's possible. It's not crazy. And then we beat the Packers in the NFC championship game at home.

Cinderella Cinderella story we we we could play the Super Bowl. Then the Super Bowl. We play Steelers. Houston, Texas. We played Texas in the Super Bowl. They changed the kickoff time to 3.30. Oh, nice. And then we, yeah, we take out the Texans. That's huge. No, there's probably no chance, but-

No, that's a path. I'm just happy. I'm just happy with everything. I think the NFC kind of is a path. It's wide open. I think that like- Would it be crazy? That didn't sound that crazy what you just said.

Would it be crazy to say that the Packers beat the Eagles? No. No. Not crazy. Would it be crazy say that the Packers beat the Eagles No, not crazy would be crazy to say that the the Vikings beat the Rams now No, not crazy would be crazy say that the Packers beat the Lions. No, maybe no, I don't think so not that crazy No, that's playoffs. You don't think that's first rust I mean, maybe if Dan Campbell gets stopped on fourth and one and that in that game that it just happened That's a good point Has he ever done that? No, yeah, but it was tie game went for it on fourth and one crazy. So there's a path However, remote it might be there's a path. It's the playoffs

memes is frustrated about something God knows well memes just is such a different fan that he thinks that like the Jets are We're talking to down on yourself. Mark Sanchez done as a rookie. Jane Daniels is a lot better That's true going to Tampa you beat and're starting to talk like Gruden right now. Yeah, why are you trying to get to Pittsburgh? Then you go up to Detroit. Rank your favorite memes voices. Mine is number one, Hank Hill. I didn't know you had that in your memes. No, that was good. That was great. And then two, we got, we got, Pittsburgh. We got Gruden memes. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah, no, listen. Just get your confidence up. It's a possibility. It's a, I, I we got, we got Gruden memes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, listen.

It's a possibility. It's a possibility. I am confident that we can beat the Bucs. There's definitely a way that we beat the Bucs. But there's a lot of good teams in the NFC. I just really want the Eagles. But they all have flaws. They all have flaws.

I wanted the Eagles. That's the biggest thing. They all have flaws. Yeah, I know you really wanted the Eagles. I'm sorry for you. Pisses me off. You wanted the Eagles. I knew you did, flaws. Yeah, I know you really wanted the Eagles. I'm sorry for you. Pissed me off. You wanted the Eagles. I knew you did too. Yeah.

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Played the Rams were actually pretty live in this game. They had a chance to win it at the end And they they had like a fourth and three on the 10 yard line with 30 seconds left So Jimmy G still got it a little bit. So what was Sean McFaith thinking going on this week? He just didn't think it was important to have to avoid the Lions or the Vikings at all? Yeah, no, he was just like, I want to rest my guys. It's just kind of a weird move though, isn't it? I don't I think I think he's been there done that.

Play whoever you play. Yeah. Because I mean, ultimately, who would you rather play in the playoffs, the commanders or maybe the Lions? Yeah, I think he just wanted to play. I think he wanted to get healthy. He's got an old quarterback. So this is what concerns me about that move is that I feel like Sean McVeigh knows something.

Yeah, no, I'm nervous about the Rams now, especially watching the Vikings play against the Lions. I'm back to nervous about my pinky. Yeah, they weren't good today. And some of that has to do with Jimmy G a quarterback. But they almost won the game. They almost won the game. Yeah. In the Gino incentives game, which he hit all three of them, by the way. Oh, easily. He got $6 million. Yeah. Incentives stay good for Gino. But the fact that Sean McVay did not care about winning this game makes me think that the Rams are gonna be very dangerous. Yeah, I'd agree.

Because if you were desperate, if you were were if you had doubts in your team, you'd be like, we need every edge we can get. Yep. Let's go out there win this game and try to avoid a great team from the north. I guess you also don't. I mean, you don't know how the other games are going to go, although they are had already played. If they had won. Yeah, they would be the three seed. Yeah, I was saying, you didn't know I like going before the game. If the Packers had won and the commanders had lost, it would have been the Packers. So, you know, and you're you're

setting a plan for going forward probably days before being like this, what we're going to do. Yeah. So you're just not concerned at all. Yeah. So that's what makes me concerned about the Rams. Yeah. And then as for the Seahawks, year one under Mike McDonald, it wasn't terrible. No. I mean, they won 10 games.

It was very frustrating. It was extremely frustrating. Because it felt like you could have won at least two or three more. I mean, the fact that the Seahawks, they kind of have a similar setup as the Bengals They look back they lost the Giants. Yeah, like how did that happen? The yeah the Colts and the Seahawks lost the Giants like how do you let how do you how do you let that happen?

and so because like other than that they lost to Teams that were you know, better than the loss of lions, understandable. They lost the 49ers before that everyone got injured, understandable. They lost the Bills and the Rams, the Packers and the Vikings. Those are all not terrible losses. So if you look at the Seahawks season, it really just comes down to you don't lose that Giants game. You're in the playoffs, year one in Mike McDonald.

And so I don't know, I feel like arrow pointing slightly up for I think you're happy overall, but you're you're also very frustrated. Yes. Okay. So Rams, because I think they would when they moved on from Pete Carroll, they at the very least wanted a coach that would attempt to run the ball. Yeah, and which they did a little bit today. But Mike McDonald, he failed that part of the test year one, how did the the Rams see? I mean, listen, Sean McFay, Kevin O'Connell. They know each other those guys know each other That it's funny too because that was kind of the launching off point for the rams

season Remember that was uh early on in the season. They were two and four and it's like if they don't win this game They're pretty much dead, which turned out to be true They needed to win that game and they won that game was a Thursday night game and Stafford carved up the The the Vikings defense, I think that was the game that everyone came back right before you know Like it was like we didn't we didn't know if Pooka was gonna play or not

And then he played right like it was announced right before and then he carved him up It's gonna be interesting matchup. Yeah Interesting match. I like the Rams. Yeah, I probably like the Rams too. All right Cardinals 47 49ers 24 You got anything on this game? Nope, Josh jobs played he did play. Yep. Kyler looked okay. Yep Trey McBride to catch a touchdown or no? Trey McBride did get a touch. All he does is score touchdowns. Yes. And he also had an awesome play where he carried Fred Warner like a backpack. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Season from hell for the 49ers over. Yeah, 6-11. So what do you do if you're the 49ers? You

see how bad Brock Purdy's hurt and then you go from there. And Chris McCaffrey? Walsh? We back. Okay. What about Debo? What do you do with Debo? Cut.

You cut your wide back? I don't know if cut is, I don't know which contract is. I'd say you move on from Debo. You find a way to move on from that contract. Yes. Yeah. That one you move on. You get Ayuk back next year.

Ayuk comes back, Debo's a little older. Also felt like there was times where Kyle Shanahan tried to spam Debo. So maybe he's just gonna, it might be better for Kyle Shanahan to not have Debo in his life. Because he's always thinking, I want more Debo.

What if I use Debo for this play like this run this sweep what if I debo'd it you'll get Trent Williams back yeah that'll be good yeah Fred Warner's still good yeah I think the 49ers will be a a buy-on team next year yeah it's like you know they had a bad year they had a season from hell they get to rest up they don't have to play deep into to January Kittles gonna be fresh kiddos gonna be fresh. So get a higher draft pick. They'll be fine John Lynch is a very good GM. Kyle Shan's a very good coach I just I don't like that the 49ers were such a bummer to watch because say what you want about him in the past

They've always been fun. Yeah, and they were not fun this year but they definitely have to they I think their roster is like on the older side that they have to figure make some hard decisions and kind of reset. But it can be done very quickly. Look at the bills and what do what do the Cardinals do? Hope next year's different. Okay. I don't really know. I, I'm not the biggest Kyler guy. I think they should keep him around. I think that you,

you stay rolling with Kyler for a little bit. Cause at least they have, like I know what the Cardinals are in my head and it's Kyler Murray scampering around having two games where he looks awesome. A couple of games where he looks just awful. And then that's all the mental headspace you have to have on the Cardinals. Kyler's not a confetti quarterback. Oh Can you close your eyes and see confetti coming on coming down on Kyler? No, maybe on a game show or something

Cuz like think about it like there's so much confetti then you're like, where'd Kyler go can't find it gets lost in it Yeah, and the eSports like a dog going into leaf pile I love those videos of the dogs Oh the best like you could actually measure snow by taking Kyler outside and by just tossing him I watched a video where a dog there was a GoPro Attached to the dog and he ran from the house. It looked like an Italian villa or something He ran from the house all the way down these like windy rocks and jumped into the ocean probably the Mediterranean Yeah, that was a good one and it was like two and a half minutes long

It's like that dog has the best life of all time. That dog was all gas no breaks Yeah And so that's what we do with the Cardinal season get a GoPro move to Italy Put on Kyler and just run down to the water every single day. Yeah, pretty good good plan. Okay So last two games you want want to do Eagles giants? We can skip it. Eagles, 20 giants, 13. Well, we, I, I guess the only question I'd have about Eagles giants is, is Jalen hurts out a concussion protocol. Nope. Uh,

so what does that mean? You're, you're less than seven days away from your first round playoff game. He went through a walkthrough yesterday. So... And the end of the line for Eagles Packers just moved to full point. To where? Four and a half. Okay.

Okay, so that means he's probably going to play? Or means someone bet a lot of money on the Eagles. Probably the former. That he's going to play? I get former and latter mixed up a couple of times. I he's gonna play. I get former and latter. I do too. Yeah.

Yeah. Ladder is the most recent one. Yep. Probably the latter. So you think somebody bet a lot of money on the Eagles. Not that he can clear concussion protocol. Yeah. I just don't think that they're gonna like say that he cleared concussion protocol in

like 1045. Right. But do you think he will clear concussion protocol? Yes. In my heart of hearts. Do you wish take one had played? No. Because he's healthy and the offensive line is healthy. And you saw a lot of people get injured today. On the Eagles? No on other playoff teams. What about Tanner McKee? Damn sure he great ease the QB two of the future. He's wow. That's good. You got that figured out. Yep. He's so good. So Kenny and then Tanner McKee for the playoffs. So good.

Tanner McKee is so good. Yeah. I hope Jalen hurts clears concussion protocol. Same. Same. Well, no, I want to take that back. I hope that he clears it whenever it's good for his body. Yes. Brain is mind to clear it. Not a second earlier. Me too. Agreed. I hope Jaylen hurts clears concussion protocol, but not until like Friday because I'd like to see Max's brain just be like, what does this mean? See, that's how there's a part of you. Like if you are really rooting against the Packers this weekend you wouldn't say that why okay Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday you would

want them never like at least two more days of him not yes concussion protocol I'd like at least one more report where they say he has not cleared you want one more show for me to be nervous about concussion yeah I want you to become an expert in concussion protocol at some point this week because you're so nervous. If Jalen Hurts doesn't clear concussion protocol, will you give us permission to concuss you and put you in protocol? I already have a history of concussions.

Okay, so we won't do that. We will not do that. I think we should just give Max the concussion test before every show. Yeah, that would be a good idea. Baseline. giants. What even picked they have now fourth, they still might get Shador. Third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, It's not things seem to be trending towards not yeah And again we talked about when they had been maka do and Mara said that they would not fire been maka do then two weeks later They fired been maka do yeah did the same thing with Joe judge the season they said they're not gonna fire Brian Dable It's not necessarily a good thing to get a vote of confidence from mr. Mara. Yes from mr. Mara so If they do fire Dable, what about this plan? Sark. And then you just wait for Arch. You do one season of tanking. They have a bet. If you look at the schedule that

the Giants have to play next year, not easy. Yeah. They have to play the AFC North. Well, that's because they're also the Giants. Yeah, that's true. But they also have to play the NFC North. Well, that's because they're also the Giants. Yeah, that's true. But they also have to play the AFC West. OK. So a lot of good teams. And then, so that's six playoff teams right there between those two divisions. Are we sure Arch is worth tanking for? Then you tank a little bit.

You should tank for somebody. Agreed. If Arch Manning is not worth tanking for, if you're the Giants, then who is? I don't know. I'm just asking the question. Because if Arch Manning was worth tanking for, I would the Giants then who is? I don't know, I'm just asking the question because if Arch Manning was worth tanking for I would have thought Arch Manning would be playing

in the playoffs. Right now? Yeah. Well that's because Sark is keeping him fresh because he's gonna become the Giants coach, then tank and then draft Arch. Because I'm also kind of done watching Quinn Ures. I'm not.

I am, I'm done watching Quinn Ures. I'd rather watch Arch. But if you're if you're a Giants fan that that should get your blood going a little bit. Yeah, like just picturing a manning Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what is it? What does it have? Right now? It has them taking Travis Hunter. Okay, I have dual Carter to the Jets Way to go Kelvin Banks Offensive tackle I like that Ash and Jenny for sure is gonna be a cowboy. That is the most cowboys pick ever. Oh my god He's gonna run for like 1,500 yards and they're gonna go to the playoffs. Like everything's fixed That is the most cowboy thing ever. Oh

McMillan is a stud from Arizona. Well, that would be that would be nice just what we need. Yeah Okay last game Bears 24 Packers 22 What can I say we beat the Packers that's what we do Packers specialist that's what we do we beat the Packers fake punt Or not fake punt the the fake punt catch was awesome. That's a great do. We beat the Packers fake punt or not fake punt. The fake punt catch was awesome. Great play. Keenan Allen interception. Awesome. So funny. That was a very funny play. Almost bears the fuck out of this game with the fumble late. And then we the Packers I don't know what they were doing on defense at the end of the game. But that's just what

that's just the difference between good organizations and bad organizations. Bears find ways to win these games. Caleb got clothesline so hard on that final drive. Yeah. Yeah. He got, yeah. He got horse collar tackled. Uh, but yeah, Caleb made it through a ball perfectly to DJ Moore, Cairo Santos revenge. Fun fact for you, the Bears and the Packers in the vaunted NFC North both one and five and The Packers needed a block field goal to win that one game I can't remember who was against because the Bears own the pack in 2025 the Packers have never beaten

The Chicago this and I know we dropped like two spots. Maybe three spots in the draft order. I was saying it before my My oldest is five and a half. He's halfway through kindergarten. He has never been alive for the Bears to beat the Packers. So this was kind of nice. Yeah. It's nice to beat the Packers. I told you you could do this and you were being a negative Nelly. Well, I mean, we needed a lot of things to go right, including to completely fake them out with that punt return. We needed Jordan Love to go out. We needed the Packers to play the dumbest defense I've ever seen.

But I'm happy for Caleb Williams to end on a high note. Feels good. A lot of things to work on. The organization is not in a good place, but we own the Packers. Trending up or trending down? Trending down. Trending very far down. That should make the Packers feel awful.

Yeah, that even after you beat them you're like, yeah, we're not in a good spot. Here's the thing. I know Packers fans like will tell themselves, well, we just screwed you out of a couple couple picks, you know in the draft. It bothers Packers fans to no end because they love beating the Bears and they love beating the Bears all the time and we haven beating the Bears all the time And we haven't beaten them since 2018 and we have one over road Sunday game in 20, you know in three years Where the Packers daddy is this like an Ohio State situation where even if they win the Super Bowl like it's kind of a lost Season because they didn't beat the Bears. I'd rather them not win the Super Bowl. I'll say that right now I do not want the Packers to win the Super Bowl, but good question, Hank. We are the Packers daddy though. We own them. Could this be a moment

where, you know, for the last five years, all you've wanted is to beat the Packers, but at what cost? No, I mean, I'm all I've just wanted them to be good. Yeah, and they're not good. But we beat the Packers. So it's great that it happened at the last game of the season. So I can just be like, hey, we were on a winning streak. I will do a clock, you know, somewhere in the summer where it's like it's been 200 and whatever. 50 days. You got it. You got to hope that they're super late in the season. Yeah. Or not. Let's not even schedule next year. Yeah. Let's just we'll do it the year after. What if you just destroyed the entire franchise? Yeah, it bothers the Packers, they lost the Bears. I love it, I fucking love it.

So, Caleb's rookie season, his numbers, he leads the Chicago Bears franchise history in total yards. So he did that in one year. Also says, I mean, it's, we have never never had a quarterback Hank. That's how it's possible Wait say that said again. He leads he has the most total yard So rushing and receive or a passing in Bears franchise history in one season. That's pretty good 4030 I think Jay had like four thousand in I don't know

Five or something one year see the guy We're working on it. It's a one-year all-time all-time and for one season for one season. Okay, I thought you're talking about for one Yeah for all time one season Yeah, he ended with you know 3500 I know if you told me before season that he had 3500 yards and 20 touchdowns and six interceptions. I would have been like holy shit. We're in the playoffs didn't go that way Didn't go the way I thought it would a lot to work on Caleb's got a lot to work on the Bears have a lot to work on

I don't I have more confidence in Caleb working on the things and the Bears working on the things Because everything that I've read and heard The Bears are going to hire Brian Flores. They're probably not even gonna interview Ben Johnson Mike Frabel is gonna be the Patriots head coach Ryan Poles is gonna keep his job and that's gonna be an awkward I don't know what's gonna happen where he's got one year and then The new coach is like hey this guy and whatever Another time another day the Bears beat the Packers we own the pack. I have some advice for the for the McCasky family You got it at least don't swear

Okay, to dearest McCasky family. I hope this missive finds you will yeah, by the way, happy birthday to Virginia 102 years happy birthday to Virginia sweet, Virginia Very happy to have you around for hopefully many more notes around the sun. Yeah. Yeah, this is to Virginia. No, I couldn't I reflexively said no when you said hope to have you around for many more. I should have said that we hope you birthday we were glad you're not dead. I'm glad you're not dead. No. I am. Oh, okay. I'm glad you're not getting happy I I am okay I'm glad you're not getting a happy birthday Virginia and and miss Virginia excuse me miss missus McCasky would yeah wait is it a missus or is a miss is there a mr. McCasky

no I mean her husband died like oh what did you say Hank what yeah trying to be nice happy birthday I got a lot of money. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, go back to it. You have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson. Yeah. You have, she's not cheap. We'll tell you the dress is a George. Mr. McCaskill George, her son, her son, full grown adult son, seven year old doesn't swear. Yes. Mr. McCask you have to at least pretend to interview Ben John. Yes. Just at the very minimum get get him on a zoom call. Yes. And be and then you can say we didn't think that he his vision for the future of this offense aligned with Chicago Bears values. Yes. But you can't just hire Brian Flores because Ryan Pohl says this is my buddy. Yes. What do you laugh about back there? I just looked at a picture of her where she looks so old. And then underneath it,

it said 1999. Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. That was when she that's when she fired her other idiot son. What is that guy doing now? Um, Michael McCaskin. Wait, I think he might have No, I'm thinking of someone else yes, I think I know he died he died but Yeah They're a mess. I'm not gonna think about it today today's about beating the Packers This is you have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson and yes, give Brian Flores an interview. But also, let's not forget about the 40th anniversary of your vaunted 1985 Chicago Bears team. And what better way to move forward as a franchise than by honoring that season?

And by bringing back a small piece of it, dual head coaches Jeff Fisher and Ron Rivera. Hmm, that would be fun. She was 62 years old when that happened. She was old. When the Chicago Bears won the Superbowl, she was old enough to be confused by the rap in the Superbowl shuffle. Yes. Probably offended. Yeah. This isn't music no seriously happy birthday I I don't think she's doing like she's a sweet old lady it's not her fault anymore I mean I guess it kind of is because she hired her son and whatever it's today's about beating the packers nice mom mm-hmm today's about beating the Packers mom well she fired one of her sons and smart move today's about beating the Packers we beat the Packers we beating the Packers. Nice mom. Today's about beating the Packers. Great mom. Well she fired one of her sons. Smart move. Today's about beating the Packers. We beat

the Packers. We are the Packers daddy. Packers fans, you're 0-1 in the last one. Max, I'm gonna give you the blueprint on how to beat the Packers. Hell yeah. Yes. We're back. We're back. I'm gonna do it. Are the Packers better with Malik Willis at quarterback? Yes. Jordan Love just throws off his back foot. Yeah, he's really good at it. He is good at it. I do. Christian Watson hurt. Christian Watson, it looks like he's out. Jordan Love is. That's actually significant. Like that, that does suck for the Packers because he is their

field stretcher. And I do think that when Malik Willis gets in the game Lafleur gets more invested in the coaching Yeah, where he's like I really have to get in my bag and he calls more creative shit does things a little bit more on a Unorthodox they're more fun to watch. I think when Willis is playing. Yeah by the way, did you guys I think I did mention this but the The Bears have the same division record as the Packers one five one and five and I think I did mention this, but the Bears have the same division record as the Packers. One and five.

One and five. And I think technically in division they get the tiebreaker on head to head point differential because we beat them by two and they beat us by one. No, it's big. So this season. So on aggregate, yeah, that's correct. We beat them by two and they beat us by one. So yeah.

So like going on the Pack powers in the NFC North Yeah, but on college football division rules Yes, you finished in third place in the correct Packers finishing, right? Congrats anyone could beat up on all the other teams. Yeah in the big nor anyone literally anyone Yeah could you know beat teams like the Colts and you know, they could do that. Mm-hmm, but or the Cardinals You know they could do that. Mm-hmm, but or the Cardinals But now everyone can just fight in the NFC North and win on a technicality is Thomas Brown the guy no

They're gonna interview him for a head coaching job. Yeah, which is nice. It's good. He's doing that It's good, but no definitely not they fucked Thomas Brown over they made him. He was doing fine There was a three game stretch where Caleb looked more confident because he was up in the booth being the OC and then they're like, Hey dude, you did pretty good for three games, which he was, he started the season and not as the OC became the OC three weeks later became the head coach. They fucked that guy over. He did such a good job at being OC that they promoted they just that was that was really stupid and very bears like yeah the future is as grim as possible I'm not I'm not gonna get my I've said this for I'm not gonna get myself excited what are you gonna say what were you saying names variable no variables the coach the Patriots dude kago maybe the Jets the I'm not gonna

let myself get excited and they actually show me on the field hasn't signed Yeah, like I to my knowledge. He hasn't even interviewed with the Patriots yet. I mean either. Yeah, I don't think he has Yeah, he has interviewed with the Jets. So really the only job he could take right now with Jets Yeah, that is true top of his big board is probably Jets. Yeah. Yeah Is that see board? I'm not gonna let myself get excited in the off season and talk myself into something that They have proven time and time against they can't deliver I will spend the off season talking about how we're one and all against the Packers in the last one

And that's fine that you know what I am. I'm based in facts now. I based in fat results I'm a results based guy I'm not going to talk about hypotheticals and who we add and offensive linemen and coach and we're like, Oh, you know, the bears are gonna be great. No, no, no facts. One and oh in last one against Packers this year undefeated this year, right? Yep. Facts. Not a lot of teams can say that. I guess the Super Bowl champ actually all of us can. Yeah, all of us can say it. And also the Super Bowl champ will be able to say that for sure. Actually, I'm unless one of you wins the Super Bowl champ will be able to say that for sure. Actually I'm unless one of you wins the Super Bowl. Yeah, I guess memes Hank and I are going to finish 2025 or start 2025 25 without a loss.

Yeah, whenever they say only one team finishes with a win in their last game. That's actually not true. No, there's a lot of teams. Yeah, 16 of them. What do you say, Max? Well, we all we all started 2025 without a loss, you know That's what you're saying, but you guys are the only you guys the only ones who have a chance to lose in 2025 Which actually I'm happy. I don't have a chance to lose so far in 2025 You understand that? Yep. No now that made no sense. It makes perfect. Yes. He's saying very simple

He's happy that they don't have a playoff game. Yeah could lose Yeah, because big guy I'm gonna stay one and oh for the next nine months rather not even in 2025 There's a good chance you guys are not gonna be you're gonna take at least one loss Now I'm a winner. I'm not gonna lose. Okay, that's the spirit. Yeah Anybody any time anywhere? I wish I wish we could fuck I just wish we could change And play against the Eagles. Oh Nothing would make me happier. I know you're rooting hard for it. You're really hard for it Okay Should we finish up with who's back the week? Oh, I have a row back question

week. Oh, I have a robot question. Uh, R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase row back.com promo code take Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take my robot question is, uh, who ended up losing the picks competition? Good question. That'll be me. Oh, oh max you lost. Yep That's a shame. I have a quote. I have a rollback question. Yeah, Hank. Go ahead rollback question hit us Well, I guess for do you want to clarify what the what the punishment is the punishment is the loser of the pits picks competition this year has to go to an AWL's bachelor party and get drunk with AWL's which isn't really a punishment It's actually a reward but some of us Don't love traveling when we don't have to work So that's the punishment this year

So I was thinking about this last night and and you know even just a lot past week obviously the new year and the show And how much we appreciate our fans, and I was just thinking like, we have non-male AWL fans. That's a good point. Like we did just pigeonhole this contest into just bachelor parties. Yeah. What about the female AWLs and bachelorettes? Yeah. Good point.

Sounds like a good idea for another punishment, but it's a shame that this one is a bachelor party That's a good point. This is also a bachelor party. I was thinking a lot It's like do not do not do not care about our female no no I do I care about I agree this sounds like a great idea for another punishment that we can do why like we could it's a shame that we already Made this one a bachelor party. I wish we didn't already made this one a bachelor party. I wish we didn't. I wish we could vote. No, no. Yeah. For our next punishment, we can do that. No, we can vote right now for this one. No, no, no. Are you saying you wouldn't want to hang out with our female? Like you

wouldn't want to go to a bachelor party? No, I just want to you're saying you would lodge by a blodge to a blodge. What is that word? You're saying? I don't know. A blotch. I want to oblige to the punishment. Is that what you think a lot of this? I want to oblige to the punishment. And unfortunately we said this was a bachelor party. What about now would we leave open those fucking freaks and weirdos that do a combined bachelor and bachelor party? No, I said they're out. They're out. It's good. If you're listening to the, if you're listening to the show right now and you do that, stop listening to the show. This show's not for you. And if you're a female,

not we care about you. Unless, unless you're, unless you're, it's a great idea. No, it's your fiance made you do the combined then you're off. I, I, I don't know. I would say it's going to be equal opportunity because I think that we should Shine more light on some of the female AWLs out there that sometimes listen to show Yeah, I don't know. Oh my We should do that Question can I'm gonna I want to roleplay real quick like I lost Hank ask me If I would do that hey big cat like I know we said bachelor party, but I was kind of thinking last. Oh wait, are you thinking bachelor party?

Yeah. I was, I'm in. See, go. That's how, that's how I would act because I love our female listeners. Yes. Queen. I'm in. I have a question. Max Max. Why are you afraid of girls? Yeah, they're scary Good answer point. Ah All right, so bachelor and bachelor party your hair done. Everyone submit even Bachelorette parties You can see you can submit anything but we were the ones deciding where you go Correct on the bachelor party. that was the punishment. Okay anywhere? Yeah anywhere and sounds like there's no time limit. Yeah. So it could be like. Well I can't miss

work. No this is work. Well no you can. I can't. Yeah yeah yeah you can. I can't really miss work. We're saying you can right now. I can cover. Also if you're one of those bachelor parties that likes to do an activity instead of like the whole going out and drinking and getting drunk all the time if you're doing like Like a group marathon or something like that like we're all gonna travel together and compete in this endurance race. That's cool, too Yeah, we're definitely in Japanese a WL's don't feel like you're too like we care about you guys, too. Yeah, yeah Yeah, he's hate of girls shout out Tokyo's probably Japan's probably fun. Yeah, also is memes does he have to go to a retirement party? Yes So we need to finish. Yes second place. Yeah, we got to find that

Or divorce hearing or divorce hearing I would prefer divorce hearing I think that'd be funnier memes in the back like Harbaugh judge Judy. I still think the funeral wasn't that crazy, but whatever will not do that So max congrats. We had a quite a testy Saturday I know I was I don't I don't know why I was so upset. I was he was repunished it's like dude Pft to drive across country if I wanted to drive across the country 60 minutes of stand-up my punishment, and I did it Meem still hasn't gotten over doing 15 minutes of stand up. It changed him forever.

Yeah actually. And you were like, oh this is bullshit. No I was just pissed. I was just pissed in the way that I lost because I was like looking forward to you know the getting riled up for Sunday and wanting to. It was more so that I lost than I was about the actual punishment. Because you lost on the push. It was the only way I could have possibly lost on Saturday night.

And that's what it was. Yep. And you kept on leaving the group chat over and over. We had to keep adding you back. You were getting very upset. Yeah, no, I shouldn't have done. I'm excited to make friends with some AWLs. Love that.

I'm excited. Male or female. Yeah. The bachelor party is gonna be great If you're listening to this and you want to invite max to your bachelorette party just maybe put like There's no way that any bachelorette party would want me there I Challenge accepted

I'm not challenging them. I'm not there would be a Bachelorette who's maybe her her fiance is a big AWL and she wants to make him jealous Invite max from I I I would love to see the face some of the girls being like this is the worst stripper ever Why did you bring him? He walks in a boot. Yeah. Okay. A camera. So we'll get it. We'll get it set up. Um, I'm excited for you, Max. Yeah, it'll be good. We're gonna pick something good and I'm doing the nine dollar stream. Yeah, yeah. In two weeks. Yeah. And I'm gonna tattoo probably actually this week because I think we have a tattoo artist coming in and I'm

gonna get a perm. a tattoo probably actually this week because I think we have a tattoo artist coming in and I'm gonna get a perm yeah and I'm gonna baseball thing Max hurt his foot yeah that's really that's really through a wrench into things we're gonna do that we're gonna do that okay should we finish up with who's back of the week who's back of the week Henry who's back the week my no ad my who's back of the week I got who's back of the week? I got a couple. I think I'll save one for PFC. I'm guessing he's gonna take it My other one the Angela Ball. Go on. Not in the NBA but he is a

Charting he's basically got the number one song in the country right now. Is he good? It's really good. Yeah It's a song I've been putting for the jumpsuit January songs. Oh It's one of those songs that it is popular like at first You know he put out a clip of it And you know all the all the youth were saying like this song would have been a banger in 2005 kind of making fun of how it sounded like an old-school song which is one of those moments for me where I realize like I am definitely old because This is like the music that I like like when I was you know

Way younger and like seeing my brother's iPod to listen music It was like this type of music, but now people are just ironically Unironically enjoying the song like he put it out on streaming It's got two million views on YouTube like people actually like the song and it's a good song is his dad still kicking What's his dad up to? He's kicking haven't heard much from yeah He got he did what he said he was gonna do he got his sons to the league You know jello didn't pan out, but now he's painting out as a rapper knows and then Lonzo he put her he Another clip came out last night from the Bulls locker room

Where Lonzo was playing a different unreleased song and now that's gonna be a hit. Oh, hell yeah, so so jello's just Loki just gonna be a famous rapper. Yeah, what's the name of the song? tweakin Okay, and you love it. I love it like Listen to songs hard when you listen, so I Listen to this song should Billy strings be worried. I would love I said to my friend I would like to see the the BB BB crossover quadruple B Billy big baller brand Billy big baller really

Okay, good. Who's back baller strings. Yes Pft. I Hank who was your other who's back because I have to USA. Oh, it was good. You didn't do that Yeah, go ahead hockey. We won the the world whatever. Oh Yeah, yeah, Ryan Leonard MVP. Love it My who's back in Canada can't even make it to the fucking championship. Wow Said wow What is Max listening to I was listening to the song I'd never heard. Oh, I thought you were listening to like some My who's back of the Week is Luke Littler.

Darts is back. Luke Littler, we have a new world champion in darts. He's 17 years old. He beat Michael VanGurwen in the finals. So smoked him. Smoked him. Oh, Michael VanGurwen. And crushed him. Absolutely dominated him. This guy's a unit. They call him Luke the Nuke. He's a big boy. Wait. So Luke the nuke, he's 17? 17. So he looks like he's 30. By the way, have you seen the clips of the old school, the Penn State football players from the 1980s? Oh, yeah.

I don't know what was going on in the world, but if you were 20 years old in the year 1988, you looked like you were 50. Yes, absolutely. They all, smoking. Smoking, yeah. They all is smoking, smoking. Yeah. That was that. That was why everyone looked so much older. Wait, so Luke nuke is 17. He's 17. So he's just going to be the best starts player for the next 40 years. He's the next Michael van Gerwen. So in the, uh, in the speech that Van Gerwen

gave after the darts were over, he said, you know what they say? A star comes along once every 17 years. Basically in his congratulations speech, he said, you know what they say, a star comes along once every 17 years. Basically in his congratulations speech, he was reminding everybody that he was a star, and he is a star. But now 17 years after that, when Michael VanGurwen was 17 years old, now another 17 year old has taken the crown.

Luke the new, Luke the new, fucking love him. He's a beast. Love it. Stud. And British. That was a championship? That was a championship.

Absolutely crushed him in the championship, too Look at him. We should try and get him on yeah He's sleeping. You know you should that you should you should do that producer Yeah, okay Look at that haircut. Yes, we should get him on for sure especially before you're nine daughter Hank. That would be great Yeah, it'd be great interview. Oh my other who's back was gonna be Jimmy Butler. Ah Jimmy back in the new wait, what do you do PFT? He's not happy. He pulled a Tyreek Hill Oh, it's not happy being in Miami. Well, no Tyreek Hill pulled a Jim. Yeah, it is the Jimmy Butler

So Jimmy Butler I'm shocked that Jimmy Butler is no longer happy on a team on a team Yeah, he is on no way He doesn't want to be on the team anymore And he's making a very public demand to be traded from that team or move on is this redemption for Shams? Yeah, kind of I just this is I mean Jimmy Butler just he's ready to move on yeah back to the Sixers No, but there was a report that they tried to do that in the offseason. The Sixers did? Yep, they couldn't get a deal.

Before Paul George, they tried to get Jimmy Butler back. Maybe now they could. Super team. No, I don't think it would work. Yeah, I can't believe Jimmy Butler. I don't think he would. He wants to go to a contender. I don't think he wants to come to Philly.

He wants to go to a contender. Sixers beat the Nets yesterday. Oh wow. The Nets are really good. Yeah Yep, they looked not so great against the Warriors. I don't I don't know I like JBOT. I like Jimmy Butler I mean as a player sure but as a guy in the locker room doesn't feel like In pretty good in Miami. Yeah, but at some point if this is your fourth team, yeah He's been pretty good in Miami. Yeah, but at some point, if this is your fourth team, Yeah.

it might be you? Yeah, I think it's probably him. But he was relatively good in Miami. He didn't blow the team up until now. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying like as a teammate, he seemed to be a good teammate for a while. But I feel like Jim, he's on the downside.

Yeah. It's not getting better. It's actually kind of nice that like Miami has to deal with this for once Yeah, like they're players being like I want out of Miami Everyone always wants to leave wherever they are to go to Miami. Well, Dwayne Wade wanted out of Miami. That's true Okay, my who's back. I probably saw that statue was like is this is how they treat their superstars. Yeah My who's back is Derek Rose because Derek Rose night

I was attend I attended it Saturday night awesome ceremony very cool Made me kind of sad because it was like oh, I remember when it was cool To have like a team and players that were fun to root for Very very fun also very balls that they are retiring his number next year So they'll just do another Derrick Rose night. But it was very cool. Derrick Rose means a lot to Chicago and it was like, it was a very emotional night. Jokeem spoke very well. So it was cool. So she gave to his son to or like about

Yeah, you want to be good or great? Yeah, it's awesome. So they retired his number last night, but they're going to know it again next year. They didn't retire his number. They announced they're going to retire his number next year on Derrick Rose night right before Derrick Rose night his number next year on Derek Rose right before Derek Rose night Okay, so they can do another Derek Rose night. What prevented them from retiring his number last night? I they weren't ready to do it. It takes a while. Yeah the banner and But it was it was a cool night. It was very it was fun I actually thought it was going to be the highlight of Chicago sports in 2025 on January 4th

Turns out we ended up beating the Packers. So kind of kind of having a hot 2025 so far. It's pretty good two day span. Yeah. And they beat the Knicks. I love that they're waiting a year to retire. Yeah. Because they're going to bring them back and do the exact same thing. Exact same except with a banner. And I'll probably go again. Yeah. Because it was fun. And I like it. The United Center was packed. The highlight packages are playing. All the old guys are back. Well, because it was fun and I like it the United Center was packed the highlight packages are playing all the old Guys were back lol dang joe keem like all these guys were there. It was very it was very cool It was a cool ceremony cool night

the Bulls actually did it correctly unlike last year when they invited everyone back and like No one came then they booed Jerry Krauss's widow So yeah, well that wasn't they booed Jerry Krause's widow. So yeah, well that wasn't they booed Jerry Krause's widow. They booed Jerry Krause on the Jumbotron because the Bulls are idiots and they should have realized if they put him up that was going to happen. Whatever. Either way. And then my other who's back is Fox Sports.

Yeah. What happened? They got some stuff going on. Lawsuit. Did you read any of it? I read a little bit of it. It's interesting. It's just a lawsuit. So we don't know. It's an allegation. It's a civil lawsuit. But apparently, allegedly, Skip Bayless tried to pay a co-worker one and

a half million dollars to sleep with him. That seems like a lot of money. And she said no. Mm-hmm. That's got to make you in a real down bad mindset. Yeah. 1.5. 1.5. 1.5. Allegedly. Do you think he started, did he start with 1.5? Yeah, I think that's, I think that you just say that and you're just like,

that's the number. Like you couldn't just say a million. I'll give you a million bucks. That is quite a lawsuit. We'll see how that goes. And I saw Joey Taylor was in the mix there they Listen, I'm gonna my statement here is I'm gonna wait and see how it goes

but I Saw a menu auto having to leave tweets That was very funny to me. Did you see the video that he put out? Yeah, that was oh he put out Well, you know, it's an old video. Yeah, that's the video from 2022. Yeah old video. What he deleted after Yeah, which like dude people are gonna figure that out. I just Man, you're not sure doesn't like us. Not the biggest fan of his. He's a weirdo It should be very funny just to watch him have to Squirm a little I think a manual archer was the weirdest person on television. Yeah, he's very strange

Yeah in the video he was like just talking about how great Joey Taylor was kind of out of nowhere Yeah, and then he deleted that video because he's like people are gonna find this and repost it Which is so weird, which is just try sanding him. Yes, exactly We'll see. We'll see how that goes. I don't know. That was a bombshell Skip obviously is just tweeting and not Addressing anything at all because he doesn't follow anybody on Twitter. Yeah. I also don't know what how you do address it other than with lawyers, right? Yeah, you probably shouldn't address it. Yeah, probably

should just let it play out. Also, Colin Coward seems like whatever happens with this lawsuit, he was like exonerate like the no creepy stuff. But yeah, he's not a creep. I want to say for the record, I would have taken 1.5 million to sleep with skip alice. You would have taken $0 with skip. Yeah, one night with skip. You probably want to start your pillow talk. Yeah. Okay, let's wrap up. Oh, we got one last ad for the lottery ball. It's brought to you by our friends at Jackpocket.

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