Pardon My Take - NFL Week 3, Fastest 2 Minutes And A Recap Of Every Game (Big Cat Is Dead)
Episode Date: September 27, 2021NFL Week 3 fastest 2 minutes. (00:02:20 - 00:09:56) We recap every game and talk about Big Cat having the worst football weekend possible Packers/Niners (00:09:56 - 00:19:40) Ravens/Lions (00:19:40... - 00:30:36) WFT/Bills (00:30:36 - 00:34:50) Colts/Titans (00:34:50 - 00:39:44) Bears/Browns (00:39:44 - 00:53:43) Saints/Patriots (00:53:43 - 01:01:10) Chargers/Chiefs (01:01:10 - 01:10:56 Falcons/Giants (01:10:56 - 01:16:54) Bengals/Steelers (01:16:54 - 01:23:06) Cardinals/Jaguars (01:23:06 - 01:27:50) Jets/Broncos (01:27:50 - 01:30:50) Dolphins/Raiders (01:30:50 - 01:33:57) Seahawks/Vikings (01:33:57 - 01:38:38) Bucs/Rams (01:38:38 - 01:46:46) We finish up with Football guy of the week and who's back of the week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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September 27th, week three. We start in Western New York. It was showtime and Josh Allen's sexy
rocking arm blasts off and connects with Manuel in space. Sean McDermott's brave heart was no
match for the football team as a franchise franchise known for Scottish Norwood's battle
against long shanks couldn't be exploited by Gibson as the bills stone the football team to death.
They killed them boom. And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bill's 43 football
team 21 in Nashville where Frank Thomas Reich and Carson Winch's long white socks couldn't cover
up the big hurt his ankles were feeling. Mike the Vrable guy is thinking about court cutting his
penis again as the Titans are steaming their way to the top of the division. One night in Paris,
Campbell said you can finish on my Chester Rogers. Meanwhile Derek Henry Winkler stole all the Colts
hey and is giving Tennessee fans happy days. The Titans 25, the Colts 16, the Fonz. Hey,
in an MDMI battle between Maryland and Michigan, Molly Wood Brown had Lions fans in ecstasy with
all the pills he was dropping in the stadium. Devon Duvernay galloped his way into the end zone.
Jared Hasselgolf and Dan Campbell Anderson Baywatch Justin Tucker Carlson go super far right on an
early kick before lining up from 66 at the buzzer and ending the Lions chances at defeating the
bird gauntlet. Doink Ravens 19, Lions 17. We go to Believeland where the Bears offense was buzzing
as Justin Yields took the wheel on every drive stayed in his lane and wouldn't cross that yellow
first down line. Kalia went Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac to the locker room as Laker Mayfield
and Kareem Abdul Jahant dunked on the Chicago defense and showed them who the real Hoopers are.
Wake up naggy, I think I got something to say to you. It's late September and the Chicago Bears
are one and two. Cleveland 26, the Bears six. We head down south to Jacksonville where
Trevor Urgami, Lawrence looks good on paper but folded to a stout cardinal defense in what could
be Urban Meyers swan song. James Connor McGregor scored a proper 12 points on two touchdowns.
God hates Jags as Christian Kirk and the NFC Westboro Baptist Cardinals looked at Trevor Lawrence,
passes and said let's pick it. AJ Green Mile was supernatural as he electrocuted an innocent
secondary and paying homage to Michael Clark, Kyler Murray Duncan. All of his doubters as his
Cardinals are three Amorosa. Cardinals 31, Jaguars 19. We go to Kansas City where Ah-Ha-Ha-Hatrick
Mahomes and Edwards Illerias were giddy after chiefing but couldn't compensate for a laughable
chief's defense. Asante Samuel Jr. placed cornerback just like his daddy. You guessed it, Asante Samuel
Sr. After throwing the no-look interception of the year Mahomes found judge Jody Fortson
who made the Chargers defendants look like fools. I said maybe you're going to get a
win coach Staley and after all your two and wonder wall the San Diego Superchargers find their oasis
in Kansas City. Out in Vegas in a city known for plastic surgery Peyton Barber Streisand
still managed to have a nose for the end zone. Alec Ingold Bond, medicated power and Talcom Brown
got applied to the balls and absorbed touchdowns. Truth or dare, Icar admitted he has a crush on
Hunter Renfrow. Casey Anthony Hayward wrapped up her waddler because any good mother knows safety
first. In overtime Daniel Hock Carlson took a dump down the Dolphins blow holes and just as we
all expected Las Vegas is at the top of the AFC West. Ha-Ha-Hatrick, low riders 31 Dolphins 28.
We go to Los Angeles where Deshaun Jackson Mahomes poured cold water on the Buck's defense
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I just want to raise my hands.
Say it was fucked up to make you do all the big noises,
the raiders, the brave heart, all that stuff
coming off this weekend.
Well, do we even have to talk about football?
We don't.
You know what we'll talk about instead?
We got a really nice new paint job in the studio.
Look at that.
Yeah, that is nice.
We're driving a car.
I wish I could go back to Thursday
when I announced that basically all my happiness
is at stake this weekend.
And then every single thing that could have gone wrong
went wrong.
And I am in a football torture chamber
that we can start with where we always start
the Sunday night football game.
And Aaron Rodgers shitting down my throat
just to add, I was already dead.
My corpse was already there.
So it was actually, you're fucked up Aaron Rodgers.
You're a pervert, you're Italian,
you're a pervert, you're necrophiliac.
I'm beginning to think that he doesn't actually
wish you peace and love.
No, I'm dead.
I was a dead, I was a dead person laying there
watching Sunday Night Football.
And yeah, it turns out.
He wishes you terrorism and hate.
Yes, yes.
All the hemming and hawing about Aaron Rodgers
possibly not caring.
Possibly not being still one of the best football players
on planet Earth.
Turns out, maybe not true.
Turns out maybe a little premature.
Turns out he's still pretty fucking good at football.
I think there was hemming.
There wasn't hawing just yet.
Hawing.
You were hemming and hawing,
but I think most people, we stuck to the hemming
and Aaron Rodgers went out there, lit it up.
The throws to Devante Adams are just insane.
You can't guard them.
No.
Even if you play perfect coverage against Devante Adams,
guess what?
He's gonna throw the back shoulder.
If you play the back shoulder,
he's gonna lead Devante Adams.
It's almost impossible to defend him when he's dialed in
and he was definitely dialed in.
And he also has, Mark has Valdez Scantling,
who's faster than everyone else on the field.
So every now and then like,
oh, let's just do this where it's the other side of the field.
We'll throw out to someone who's way faster than everyone.
I, the sad part about this is Jimmy G had a drive
to maybe save his starting job because he was,
he had moments tonight where he was not looking great.
They even brought in Trey Lance to run the touchdown play,
which Kyle Shanahan deserves credit for big balls.
Two seconds left in the first half,
bringing the touchdown play.
Trent Williams with like,
I know he weighs like 150 pounds more
than the defensive back he blocked,
but it still was, he, Jeff Schwartz,
I wanna see that with the dirty spoon tomorrow morning.
Oh, he'll hit the spoon on it.
So Trent Williams, he bench pressed another grown man
in that play, like literally bench pressed him,
almost threw him out of the back of the end zone.
And as bad as this weekend is for you,
I'm not gonna downplay your football sorrow.
They have a lot of stuff to talk about.
But anytime this shit happens on Sunday night,
they always have to stick it in my face
that Kyle Shanahan and Matla Fleur and Sean McVeigh,
we're all coaches on the Washington football team
at the same time and we let him get away.
Now the record's like 110 and 60
or something stupid like that.
And that's counting the bad seasons
that the Niners have had with no quarterbacks
because of injury.
And then we have Trent Williams just dominating people,
just shoving people over.
But it was a situation where I did,
I did the basic PFT tweets again tonight
and I said too much time on the clock for Aaron Rodgers,
like five times, but it's actually true.
It's 100%, if you give Aaron Rodgers,
I would say 19 seconds is not enough time for Aaron Rodgers.
Anything above 20, that's too much time.
It's crazy because they had no timeouts.
So you basically have to do the perfect drive and he did it.
Like you have to get a big first down 20, 30 yard gain,
which they did, you know, I think they had one in completion
and then he makes the next throw over the middle
to the Vante Adams and gets up to the ball and he knew it.
You saw him fist bumping, Mason,
oh my computer's making noise, Mason crossbar,
hits the game winner, Packers.
I would say like if we're doing winners and losers this week,
just position-wise, fullbacks had a monster weekend,
but kickers had a monster weekend too,
an even better weekend for the kickers.
So he drilled a 51 yarder, just pure,
and you know what was going on.
Aaron Rodgers knew it was in when he completed
that last pass and he spiked the ball.
And then you know what?
Okay, I'm gonna take a stand for 49ers fans.
Go back, look at the tape.
I'm pretty sure that Aaron Rodgers
taunted after he spiked that ball.
I think he gave like a fist pump right in the face
of the Niners defense.
That would have actually been incredible
if that ref crew had called that taunting
after they didn't call Vante Adams
getting like missiles in the skull, not anything.
I learned a new term tonight for football.
I didn't know this, but the independent concussion watcher,
when he spots somebody that might be concussed,
he wears a red hat.
And so he goes and they call him the red hat guy.
And they grab the guy, they go into the blue tent
with the red hat and then they do the evaluation.
I don't think that they actually did
a serious evaluation on Vante Adams
because he probably shouldn't have come back in the game.
But you know what?
He did.
Yeah, he did.
And the Packers won and the Packers look like
a true Super Bowl contender.
And they, I mean, that's not an easy win.
Like I think the Niners are a good team.
I don't think that there's anything to be shamed about
for the Niners going toe to toe there.
I don't know.
It feels like their quarterback situation
will at some point this season,
there will be like a crossroads.
It feels like all, we're heading towards that.
But as of right now, they're still a very good team.
George Kittle's a monster.
He had that one catch where he was just fighting
everyone down the field.
And Debo Samuel is, I would say, throw it out there.
The number one guy right now whose name matches his play
because every time he makes a catch,
it's like, holy shit, he's a man.
I love watching George Kittle.
I almost call him Greg.
I think his name is Greg at this point.
I love watching Greg Kittle in the open field
because he actually does get into fights.
Like if that were to take place at any point
outside of football field, it's like two places.
One, outside of a club in like Baton Rouge.
And two, just like on an African safari in the Savannah
where it's like a lion taking on six wildebeest
that gang up against them.
That's what Greg Kittle, except the lion wins.
Yeah, no, it is very reminiscent of a guy,
a way too drunk guy with superpowers
trying to fight off a bunch of bouncers
as he's getting kicked out of a bar.
Or like when you used to watch cops, now canceled,
but cops, which I watch many hours of
whenever they would come across someone
who maybe had dabbled in some angels' dust.
Something like that where they had superhuman strength.
Greg Kittle is always on angel dust.
He's on PCP.
He plays like he's on angel dust.
Yeah, I do agree with you though.
I think that the clock is ticking on Jimmy G.
Did Jimmy G get traded mid-season?
I don't know if he'll get traded because like you wouldn't...
He should trade him to the Pats tomorrow.
The four diners are...
Just for this week.
That'd be incredible.
We'll get to all the rookie quarterbacks, say,
because it was a tough day for rookie quarterbacks
across the league, but Jimmy G, I think you keep him
because you have a roster that is Super Bowl caliber.
So you don't wanna like,
what happens if Trey Lance gets hurt,
especially if you're running him,
but it does feel like if they can bring Trey Lance along
and Jimmy G does just enough,
like there'll be a point where like,
all right, to take this offense to the next level,
Trey Lance has to play.
So the old saying like,
if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one,
they probably just have one quarterback.
They can just say like,
Trey Lance is just, he's our offensive weapon,
and he happens to start at the quarterback position
until he gets hurt and then Jimmy G is our quarterback.
And listen, there will be moments in this podcast
where people will be like,
that's hypocritical because you're saying
other starting or rookie quarterback
should play right away.
And I think that's true.
If you are not contending
and trying to win football games right now,
like you don't, if you're Kyle Shanahan,
you don't wanna lose games
because Trey Lance is not ready
when you're a playoff team.
Like you're trying to go to the playoffs.
So at this point, you don't wanna like,
give away a game for a rookie mistake
when you could possibly keep winning games with Jimmy G.
And Trey Lance is still adapting to NFL speed.
Cause he came from FCS.
Yeah, one game.
But by the way, I love,
I absolutely love how on ESPN they keep telling us
like FCS, parentheses, division one, double A.
Like that was last year that they changed the name.
I'm pretty sure it hasn't been that way in like 20 years.
But as an old person that like my brain sometimes
is stuck in sports memories from the year 2004.
I appreciate them letting me know that.
But yeah, I don't necessarily think this is a,
like there's just one ball thing.
No offense to the other Lance.
But I do think that they can share time.
I think that there's ways to incorporate them into the game
and probably be a better football team in the long run.
Yes. All right.
So that's Sunday night football.
Should we move to the next?
We'll start with actually the craziest ending
of a game this week.
The Ravens, Lions.
I'm sorry, I forgot one thing.
What? This is pretty important.
We have a handshake controversy.
Why? After the game,
Shanahan LaFleur did the breeze by.
Oh, I love it. They don't trouble in paradise.
I love it. Two best friends.
I love it. If I was Matt LaFleur,
I'd actually be pissed off
because during the broadcast,
I think Collins Worth or Al Michaels kept saying
that LaFleur learned everything
that he knows about football from Kyle Shanahan.
I don't know if that's necessarily true,
but they kept repeating like this,
this is where he got everything
that's in his brain right now.
Who breeze by who?
I think it was a double breeze by.
Oh, I heard an interview with him before the game
and they used to talk almost every day on the phone
and they haven't talked in a long time.
I actually don't think that this is bad
because they did like a half hug pat on the back.
So I'm not counting this as bad blood.
I'm counting this as that was a really close game.
I don't really want to sit and talk to you on the field.
I don't know. I think Kyle Shanahan's pissed at him
or LaFleur's pissed at Kyle Shanahan
for the Aaron Rogers stuff
for trying to take another man's quarterback.
No, because if you want to say anyone's doing
the breeze by here,
it's probably more Shanahan than LaFleur.
So if we're really going to break it down,
LaFleur does the pat on the back.
I'm not counting this as a breeze by.
I don't think they have a big, I don't think they have a beef.
I think that's Kyle Shanahan, the competitor,
being like, hey, I don't really want to catch up
with a friend right now after I just lost the heartbreak.
Okay, all right.
And everyone's cheering on the Packers
or like going crazy on the field.
So I'm saying no beef.
Okay, we'll keep an eye on it.
No beef.
All right, the best game or the best ending
for a game this weekend, Raven's Lions.
So let's start there.
Stop me if you heard this before,
but the Detroit Lions got screwed.
I think at this point,
the saddest part about the Lions getting screwed
is they've been screwed so many times
and they've been cast off so many times as a fan base
that people just don't,
they don't really advocate for them anymore.
It's like, well, it was a 66 yarder.
It was fucking sick.
What are you going to do?
So if you missed it, it was, there was a moment.
So the Ravens are driving to get a game winning field goal.
It's like, what was it?
Like fourth and 18.
No, no, no, fourth and 19 was what they converted.
So they converted a fourth and 19,
which if you want to say,
hey, the Lions, you could have won the game right there.
You could have won the game right there
if you don't let them convert a fourth and 19.
It was like seven seconds left.
It actually was an incompletion, but it was very clear.
I think Mike Tarrico even tweeted his 1.5 seconds elapsed
from the moment it went zero on the TV
to the moment the ball was snapped,
which I know that they might be different
than the clock in the stadium.
It can't be that different.
No, it's not that different.
Dan Campbell was saying after the game,
like, yeah, we expect to get a letter
from the league office being like, hey, our bad.
Sorry about that.
So Dan Campbell saw the same thing that we saw.
He said, it doesn't matter.
He said, tomorrow we'll get an apology.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I love that mentality.
Dan Campbell and the Lions are definitely frisky.
They're going to play everybody hard.
They play very, very tough.
Yeah.
If they can stay relatively healthy
with the players that they have, which are not great,
they're still going to play everybody tough.
Yes.
And yeah, we, I had Jake time it actually.
I think we got to like 1.9 seconds.
1.199.
1.199, but at any rate, no matter what happens,
because I know how they judge it on the field,
which is the back judge looks at the clock.
When it hits zero, then he puts his eyes on the ball.
If the ball's not moving, he throws a flag.
So either this back judge has the slowest eyes in America,
or he just fell asleep during a play and didn't call it.
So it's-
Or, or he was caught up in the moment too.
No, or he hates the Lions,
which is probably the most likely.
And he knows that if you screw over the Lions,
there's really nothing anyone will do about it.
Right.
Well, we should do something about it.
We should.
Because this one is fucked up.
And it's also the second time that the Lions have lost
on a record setting long field goal.
Yes.
51 years ago.
Actually-
Both 19 to 17 finals viewers.
They showed it.
Yeah, 19 to 17 Saints beat the Lions.
And then they also showed it the last time
that Justin Tucker was in Detroit,
they walked off with a 61 yarder, I think,
was what he hit to win that game.
I think that was a Monday night game in 2013.
Maybe the most heartbreaking part of it was the kick was up.
It was dead center.
It hits the crossbar and the Detroit Lions fans
behind the crossbar stand up and start cheering
as the balls floating in the air,
going over and into the net.
I don't think that the Lions can have a closer loss in that.
I don't think maybe I'm like tempting fate
and Lions fans, if you're listening to me right now,
you're like, just wait,
we'll figure out a way to make it stupider next time.
But I don't see how it gets any closer.
No, it was so Detroit Lions from like everything.
The fourth and 19, giving that up,
it was like fourth and 19 on the Raven zone, 10 yard line.
Like you just get one stop,
they didn't rush enough guys,
like the fourth and 19, they're playing a zone,
he Lamar lost it over, fourth and 19,
the clock, the rest fucking up the clock,
and then the doink to go in with a record setting.
Like it's not just this field goal,
it's a record setting field goal to lose that game.
And my good friend Detroit on DM me a couple of hours
after the game, he just said, I have no words.
And I was like, dude, that technically is words,
but you're right.
No, I don't think, I saying I have no words
should not count as having words.
You're just, you're communicating.
Yes, but it's so, so bad.
Now we should give the Raven some credit because,
well, I mean, they played poorly today.
I wasn't actually, if you look at it, you're like,
oh, Lamar Jackson wasn't the best.
It was Hollywood Brown just dropped every ball.
He sucked today.
Sucks.
He sucks.
He's so bad.
Occasionally he'll show up.
If he's got like three yards of separation,
he'll make a 56 yard touchdown catch once every three weeks.
But besides that, he stinks.
He dropped three touchdowns, two on the same drive.
You know how hard that is to do?
If you can touch it, you can catch it, right Hank?
Then also, if you're, if you're Hollywood.
I'm the one rolling football.
Yeah, if you're Hollywood Brown,
I guess the only spin zone is like, I got open.
Yeah.
Like I beat my man a lot.
At some point, the nickname has to go away.
I don't think you can call yourself Hollywood,
Marquis Brown, until he has a game with zero drops.
Yeah, that was-
Well, it's because he's from Florida.
From Hollywood.
Yeah, I know, but he's Marquis now.
It has to be.
Fair.
You can't, P.F.T. is right.
You can't be Hollywood Brown right now.
You can't drop three touchdowns.
And especially when Lamar Jackson, like, you know,
there are actual debates about his ability to throw
from the pocket, which I think is fair
to at least throw out there.
And then you're really not doing him any favors
when you just keep dropping touchdowns.
Yeah.
So it's not on Lamar.
It was on Marquis Brown.
Here's a fun stat.
Lamar Jackson is undefeated when he has diarrhea.
There we go.
This game in the last year in prime time.
Beautiful.
He's had diarrhea for like 10 days now.
Just give him some chili.
Give him some chili and let him cook.
Yeah.
On his chaps shit.
He's on his chaps shit.
Should we talk real quick though?
Justin Tucker giving him his flowers.
Is he the greatest kicker of all time?
I know Adam Vinitieri, obviously,
has the most clutch kicks,
but Justin Tucker is insane.
So 66 yarder breaks the record.
Matt Prater had it at 64, which was mile high.
So that doesn't, I mean, that's different.
Astrix.
Yeah.
Astrix.
Actually, the kick he missed earlier in the game
was the first ever kick he missed in a dome.
So he had been perfect in a dome.
I looked at it.
He's 98.9% extra point in his career.
90.7% field goals in his career.
And he's never missed a kick, a field goal,
in the final minute of a regulation game over 15 tries.
I think that's clutch and incredible.
It perfectly correlates to the Brady Rodgers debate.
Cause I'd say Adam Vinitieri is the greatest of all time
and Justin Tucker is the best of all time.
And Justin Tucker has one ring.
Yep.
Yeah.
But he's, I mean, he's incredible.
He's like.
Wait, no, Aaron Rodgers has more than one ring, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He has more than one NFC championship appearance game.
Oh shit.
Okay.
I guess I forgot.
But he's lost.
He's so good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Loving piece to Aaron Rodgers, by the way.
I really shouldn't have tweeted that
while the game was still going on.
That was an all time reversal.
Well, actually, no, the worst tweet of the weekend
was actually when I said,
Man Campbell's going to go crazy in the locker room
right before the fourth and 19 play.
So I'm sorry, Lions fans, you actually,
I should have added that.
You had the refs, you had the history of the Detroit Lions.
You had Justin Tucker and you had me
just having the worst time jinx tweets,
all going against you.
Spinzone for Lions fans, though,
you guys put up a great highlight at halftime
when Calvin Johnson got his ring,
his Detroit Lions ring,
and then the owner of the Lions was out there on the field.
I forget what her real last name,
yeah, Martha Ford,
but she's got some other last name now.
And the entire crowd just booed the absolute shit out of her.
Yes, it was great.
It was so loud.
I love it.
I love any chance that you get to boo the owner of the team.
Excuse me, the governor of the team.
It was great.
So good job, Lions fans.
I think America is,
we're sick of seeing the Lions lose like this.
It's not fun.
I take no pleasure in watching the Lions lose.
No, it wasn't a pleasure.
There's certain franchises that I love to see them lose.
It was one of those things too,
that if you're gonna lose in this tragic fashion,
at least do it on a primetime game
so that people can actually feel bad for you.
When it happens during the witching hour,
we've already moved on to the next four games.
So it's like your moment of everyone being like,
holy shit, it really sucks to be a Lions fan.
Gets passed over.
So we're giving it to you right now, Lions fans.
It sucks right now, but I have a spin zone.
Dan Campbell, I know that we poke fun, everyone pokes fun.
Well, we actually kind of love him,
but the meathead, the biting kneecaps,
Metallica, all these things,
I think he actually has them going in the right direction.
And he said after, he said the quote was,
we can get discouraged and we can stop
continuing to believe in fight.
I love the grit of this frickin' team.
He said frickin', so appreciate that as well.
But I actually think the Lions,
the roster is not great and they're fighting
and they're playing really hard.
And if you wanna really break it down,
they have played the Packers, who they play week one.
Oh, the Niners, the Packers and the Ravens,
one half of each of those games, they were incredible.
Yeah, they've beaten them all in a half of the game.
They're playing really hard.
The best thing that the Lions could do this year
is to lose every game, be competitive in every single game.
So you know that you're very close,
and you know that you have some pieces to build on,
and then get a sick draft pick.
Probably not lose every game, but you know what I'm saying,
like it's not bad what they're doing right now.
You don't say that because that actually has happened.
I don't want it to happen too.
And it's 17, you don't wanna be the first team
to go 0-17. You don't wanna set any records.
Maybe win three games this year.
But remain competitive in all of them
because they're not a bad football team
and Dan Campbell's a good head coach, I think.
Anthony Lin, as offensive coordinator,
is an awesome offensive coordinator, I think.
Well, you don't have to worry about timeouts and shit.
That's the thing.
He's completely freed up his brain to,
he no longer has to pretend to care about analytics.
So he's got somebody else that's in charge
of the decision making and the high level stuff
that you have to answer for.
And Anthony Lin, the bird brain,
is no longer in existence anymore.
Now it's Anthony Lin,
the very competent offensive coordinator.
I love it.
Sometimes there's guys who should be coordinators.
That's a fact.
All right.
So sorry, Lions fans.
That was terrible.
But in a weird way, when you rack these up,
it just, I mean, I wanna say someday, someday.
I think, I think.
Someday, and you'll have all these moments
where you can look back and be like,
remember this, remember that?
Yeah.
Someday.
There are a few teams that you can say like,
they're close.
I don't think the Lions are in the,
they're close competition.
I'm doing the someday.
But they're in the,
they're on the right track conversation.
They're doing, what you have to do
if you're a Lions fan is essentially say,
I hope to live to be 80.
And that's hopefully enough years
that eventually it will turn.
Yeah.
Like by math, by law of averages,
if you're a 30 year old Lions fan,
you're saying at some point in the next 50 years of my life,
it will turn.
And you're looking frisky with one of the worst rosters
in the NFL.
Frisky is good.
Here's a fun game to play.
It's called Name of Detroit Lions Wide Receiver.
Not Kenny Galladay's gone.
He's gone.
Not Slayton.
He's gone too.
Yeah.
Golden Tate's also gone.
I've got one.
What is it?
I'm in Ross St. Brown.
Boom.
It's a cool name.
That is a cool name.
That's why I remember it.
That's a huge name.
But yeah, it's not a good sign.
Wait.
Oh, no.
I know one.
Quintaz Cephas, Wisconsin.
There you go.
I knew it.
Yep, there we go.
Got it.
Nailed it.
All right.
Next game.
Washington football team bills.
So 21,
Washington football team bills, 43.
Yeah.
I give you the floor with a simple question.
What's up with the defense?
We suck.
We suck.
We're a sucky bunch of sucks and we can't stop sucking.
That's the only thing that I can say.
Like, at some point,
I need to figure out a reason why we suck.
Right.
And I don't know why.
Same guys.
So I've got one explanation.
It's maybe the worst explanation,
but it's still something.
Chase Young does too many commercials.
What about?
It's a distraction.
I don't know.
It's a terrible excuse.
It's a real answer for you.
You want to go all Dan Woken on everyone
and be like the vaccination thing
caused the riff in the locker room.
It could go with that.
There you go.
Because they're up to speed on their vaccinations now.
Are they?
Yeah, they are.
But no, but you might be right.
There might still be lingering bad blood.
Right.
Like they're passing around too many YouTube videos
instead of watching film.
Yes.
It was, I mean, it's just shocking
because Taylor Heineke, nice guy.
He's back to undrafted, by the way,
if you want to do the status, undrafted rookie.
He had what you got to call head scratchers.
Yeah.
But he looked okay at times too.
Yeah.
If we're doing the Scott Turner sliding scale,
which Scott Turner was correct that we do this
whenever a guy has a bad game,
we're like, oh, he's undrafted for a reason.
Well, if we're going to do that,
he's undrafted for a reason after this week.
Yeah.
But I still like him, but yeah,
he's undrafted for a reason.
I think he's a decent quarterback.
I think he'll be fine.
Well, we got to wait.
This was just a shit kicking.
He's got to be good again.
And then we can be like, wow, how was he undrafted?
The touchdown was sick.
Yeah, it was.
Well, Taylor Heineken, he loves nothing more
than diving for the pylon.
He knows that when the ball touches the pylon,
it looks fucking awesome and we all remember it.
He's correct about that.
You'll always remember that.
So good job, Taylor.
But yeah, this is, it's not,
we don't really have much to build on from this game,
except we executed the longest onside kick
in the history of the NFL.
That's huge.
With a ball bounce back and our kicker recovered it.
And also Josh Allen's back.
Josh Allen.
Not that he was ever gone,
but the bills looked like they're rounding back into form.
Like it's so weird to think how crazy the NFL season is
because we'll get to the Steelers game.
But the fact that the Steelers beat the bills week one,
I don't think that, like, if you just play that
in 10 weeks from now, like they're,
the bills will probably be favored by a million
because it's just the bills needed, you know,
a week to get going, they killed the dolphins.
They actually had a streak there
of what is it, 35 plus 21, quick math.
56.
56, you gotta be able to do that with gambling math.
56 straight points.
Well, none of my teams ever come close to scoring that much.
So I can't really count touchdowns anymore.
One, one touchdown I can count.
But yeah, the bills are back to being looking
like a serious, serious Super Bowl contender.
This was one of those history games too,
where the Washington football team
hasn't won in Buffalo since 1987.
Which is a long time, it's a very misleading step
because they play like probably once every eight years
or something stupid like that.
But yeah, it was just, it was never gonna happen this week.
I said going into it, it's a measuring stick game.
I think I just repeated what Ron Rivera said
and I just bought into it.
But the measuring stick is not,
we're using a protractor.
Hey, they're using a yard stick.
The bills jumped out, 21-nothing.
The Washington football team came back, made it 21-14.
We made it real interesting.
And then it was just, yeah.
But Chase Young said after the game,
this week he has one rule, no bullshitting.
Okay.
If somebody's bullshitting, you let me know.
So if anybody sees someone bullshitting,
let me know so I can let Chase Young know.
Yeah, okay, perfect.
No bullshitting, guys.
No bullshitting this week.
Have they like asked to hit you up
since you're like a fan ambassador or whatever?
Been like, hey, what's going on?
Do you have any input?
No bullshitting?
No bullshitting.
That's, I agree.
I co-signed no bullshitting.
Yeah.
So no?
You got to pin your ears back on defense.
No bullshitting.
My feedback, no bullshitting.
That'd be a no.
You got to pin your ears back
and you got to set the edge.
You got to have your first-rounders play
like first-rounders out there.
No bullshitting.
No bullshitting.
No bullshitting.
All right, Colts Titans.
Speaking of vaccine comments,
you see Jim, well, Jim Mercer's band is awesome.
Yeah.
No, that was the highlight of the week for those of us.
That was incredible.
So what he does, I guess he does this on a regular basis.
He just busts open his guitar collection
and then he has people who actually know how to play guitar,
come and play his instruments for him.
It's great.
As long as he can sing.
Yeah.
Which he sang beautifully.
He sang all along to Watchtower.
It's, I mean, this is, listen,
I know that it's not invoked to be rich anymore,
but Jim Mercer does rich correctly.
Yeah.
He's a rich guy who's like,
he's gonna just kind of talk a little bit about his team.
He owns a sports team.
He collects a bunch of guitars.
He gives away money on Twitter
and then he has people play his guitars
while he gets to sing and be like, I'm in a rock band.
Yeah.
He's a poor guy's rich guy.
Yeah, it's great.
I love seeing it.
If you have enough money like that,
all I would do, I would own a sports team
and I would buy a shitload of guitars.
Right.
That's it.
So he's living my dream.
Right.
But he did say,
I couldn't tell whether it was,
it took a little bit of a turn
because he had a comment about Carson Wentz,
like his availability basically being like,
stop getting hurt.
But then he also kind of turned that into a vaccine thing
about Carson Wentz not being vaccinated.
It feels like maybe Jim Orsay is a little,
maybe the bloom is off the rose with the quarterback.
He's paying a lot of money to not play or play poorly.
Do you think there was a bloom?
I don't know.
I think maybe there was a two game bloom.
There could have.
The two game bloom.
I think there was a bloom right after they traded for him.
Yeah.
And then the bloom went away when they saw him practice.
But I bring that up because Carson Wentz gets credit
for gutting it out through two ankle sprains,
but also I think gets credit taken away for,
I think you hurt your team because Jacob Eason
probably would have given you a better option.
Yeah.
Two sprained ankles.
I get that he doesn't want to sit out.
It's a good thing that he doesn't want to sit out.
But it was visible.
Like there were moments that he could not
like make plays with his feet
or he didn't trust where he was going
because he didn't have any mobility.
So I don't know.
I mean, the Colts, the Luz, Quentin Nelson
said high ankle sprain.
He gets carted off.
It feels like the things are kind of spiraling
for the Colts here.
Yeah.
Let's see what their schedule is.
The big winner.
I think they play the Dolphins next week.
So they could get a win next week maybe.
Okay.
But yeah, with Carson Wentz,
the big winner in this is Philadelphia.
Yes.
Because the more he plays,
the more likely they are to get a first round pick.
Yes.
So I think, I forget what the exact parameters are,
but he has to play I think over 75% of the snaps
in a certain amount of games or whatever.
So this was big.
The fact that they put them out there today,
then it was much more likely that the Philadelphia Eagles
are gonna get a first round for Carson Wentz,
which is just, it's crazy to say
that that was the price tag in Carson Wentz at this point.
Yes.
Very crazy.
I think the Colts could be five and five.
I just looked at it through their first 10 weeks.
They still have, coming up,
they have the Dolphins, Texans, Jets and Jaguars
in some combination.
There you go.
So that's actually, there's your silver lining.
Then they get Sam Elinger back.
Yes.
Sam Elinger comes back.
Then anything can happen.
Then the moon.
By the way, I like, you know,
not just because he is a coworker of ours,
but Terry Luan, who obviously was terrible week one,
got shit on a bunch.
He came back.
He played well, you know, didn't mention him.
Derek Henry ran well, didn't give up any sacks.
I actually thought he had some great comments after the game
because he got booed coming out on the field.
And he was like, that really hurt.
And I like, I was in a very, very dark place
after week one, and it was very, very hard.
Like that was the hardest thing I've gone through
is like fighting back from that much public humiliation
and coming off an ACL.
I just, I don't know, it was very honest.
And I appreciate whenever an athlete's honest.
And that's not just because he's a coworker,
but good for him that he was able to get back out there
and play well.
Yeah, yeah.
He did block really well.
And Derek Henry ran like a fucking monster.
But this is, it's weird to see Derek Henry
playing this well this early in the season.
I know.
I don't know.
And sometimes we had that conversation
and we're just like clearly bullshitting
about the peak too soon.
He might actually be peeking too soon.
I think he's peeking too soon.
This was also, the Titans didn't play that great,
but it was, you can just chalk it up to,
it's tough to win division games.
It is, yeah.
It's tough to win division games.
These guys beat each other up twice a year.
They got a lot of film on the other franchise.
So yeah, the Titans look good.
They clearly look like the best team in that division.
And I don't know who's second place.
Probably the Colts.
I can't imagine it would be the Texans or the Jaguars.
Yeah, that's true.
So that was one verse two.
You're probably gonna finish second place
in the division this year,
regardless of what happens.
That's a good point.
All right.
Bears, Browns.
Go off.
I mean, that was really hard to watch.
That was really, really hard to watch.
Nine sacks.
Is there a chance that Matt Nagy was right?
No.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You didn't let me finish.
Matt Nagy was right that Andy Dalton
is better at running the Andy Dalton offense
than Justin Fields is at running the Andy Dalton offense.
Here's how fucked up I am in my own head right now.
Here's how much Matt Nagy has me twisted around.
I think he threw that game to try to prove that he's right
that Andy Dalton's a better quarterback
than Justin Fields right now.
Because that's the only explanation for the play calling
and the game plan that he put out there.
He, and so much so,
I saw after the game,
Matt Nagy in his post-game press conference was like,
yeah, Justin Fields might have hurt his hand
at the end of the game, his throwing hand,
and Justin Fields was like, no, I'm fine.
See, he's like, he's doing this to fuck with Bears fans.
He's doing this to fuck with me personally.
He is basically saying, all you think you know more than me,
I'm going to show you that Justin Fields stinks
by making him a pocket passer,
giving him Andy Dalton's pocket,
not moving the pocket, not doing anything creative,
not getting anyone schemed open,
not doing any run-play option,
having the offensive line, which is terrible,
be very, very terrible,
watching him just die out there just so I can say,
I told you so, I'm smarter than you.
I don't think that you're actually that insane,
because I saw a lot of people that watch a lot of football
that are no way connected to the Bears
say the exact same thing today that like Matt Nagy
is not doing Justin Fields any favors,
and it's almost like borderline mismanagement,
criminal mismanagement.
Criminal, put him in jail.
What have you done?
The Hague.
What's the Hague?
The Hague, yeah, another,
I think it's the Hague.
What's the Hague?
It's the Hague.
War criminals.
Put that, put his ass in the Hague.
Put Matt Nagy in the Hague for fucking war crimes.
Crimes against football.
This motherfucker, he's like mustard gassing
his own fan base.
It's terrible.
He's a fuckhead.
Matt Nagy, Saddam Hussein.
I'm not going to say the nice guy.
Yeah, no, I really had the thought,
I was like, is he doing this on purpose?
Is he doing this to fuck with us?
Because it really was Andy Dalton's pocket.
I mean, like it was so incredible.
And let me do this real quick.
Justin Fields didn't play well.
He really didn't.
He did not.
Like there's not a lot that you can do
with that offensive line.
Turns out maybe getting Jason Peters off the street
as a 39 year old who's, you know,
gonna be probably a Hall of Famer,
but he's 39, doesn't really work out
when he's going up against Miles Garrett.
Justin Fields did miss some throws.
You really can't say anything about six for 20
for, well, it's, I have a problem with the fact
that the NFL does, cause you know,
there's meals going around.
They include the stats.
Sacks include his passing yards, negative passing yards.
So everyone's like, Justin Tucker's field goal
was longer than the Bears total yards.
Fuck that.
Justin Fields had 68 yards, motherfuckers.
A passing, 68.
That's crazy.
I saw one dude say that Justin Fields had one yard passing.
Yeah, that's because they take away sacks.
A yard.
I've never seen that not used in a plural form.
Yeah, no, he had a yard.
He had a yard of passing.
They had 47 yards total.
Yes.
But again, it's bullshit.
It's bullshit that they count sacks
as negative passing yards.
So 19 yards shy of Justin Tucker's field goal
is what you're saying.
But he had 68 yards passing, for real.
We were right though.
We were right.
We said that Matt Nagy would run the same offense.
We saw this coming a mile away,
but we were wrong because I thought that Stifansky
would prepare for an offense
that was going to run a different offensive scheme.
But no, it turns out Stifansky is smart
and he prepared for a matchup against an idiot.
He's an idiot.
So he was very well equipped.
I saw a quote from Matt Nagy after the game
that said, there wasn't a lot we could do
because they were coming off the edge real hot.
And so we were kind of limited
in what we were able to run offensively.
It's like, that's exactly where you run.
You were hired.
That's exactly where you run the RPO.
That's where you run the inside, the zone read.
Bootleg, get him out of the pocket.
If the pocket doesn't work, move the pocket.
You control that.
You are the head coach.
You're the offensive coordinator,
which I should add, Matt Nagy fired himself
as offensive coordinator last year.
And then this off season
rehired himself as offensive coordinator.
So he's got to do the Mike McCarthy
and fire himself again.
And then towards the end of the year,
don't do it, don't do it just yet.
But what you got to do, Matt Nagy,
if you want to extend your job, here are the steps.
You hold off on Justin Fields for as long
as you possibly can, then you bring him in
and run a slightly different offense
with slightly better results.
And then when things start to sputter,
you fire yourself as offensive coordinator.
And then you're like, let's build on this for next year
under this new format,
the new organizational chart that we have
inside my own brain.
Hank, were you gonna say something?
Oh, wait til the end.
I just have to ask a follow up for Friday.
I want to say something real quick though.
I want people to do a little policing
on the internet this week.
For me, this is all I ask.
I'm as low as I could possibly be.
Thank God we don't talk about college football
on Monday shows.
Well, I'm as low as could be.
It was a terrible, terrible football weekend.
Watching the Bears is painful.
It's excruciating.
It's disgusting.
Everything is just terrible.
I want you though to do me this one favor.
If you see or hear talking heads,
be like, see, this is why Matt Nagy
had Andy Dalton playing and not Justin Fields.
Tell them they're fucking idiots.
Please, because that was never the point.
The point has always been the Bears are going nowhere.
We know what Andy Dalton is.
Why not try to see what you have in a rookie QB
that you just used a lot of draft capital on?
Play Justin Fields, play the rookie.
I didn't expect Matt Nagy to run a terrible,
terrible offense.
It doesn't change the fact
that I want to see Justin Fields out there.
So please call out anyone who says,
Bears fans are so stupid for calling for Justin Fields.
No, we're not.
We don't want to see Andy Dalton
because Andy Dalton is what he is.
Very nice guy, but he is what he is.
He's not going to do it.
This team's not a playoff team.
They weren't a playoff team
if they had Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback.
There's flaws all over the roster.
We want to see the young guy
because there's no reason to play Andy Dalton
and win like six games.
There just isn't.
I'd rather see Justin Fields progress.
Do you think that Matt Nagy is lazy
and that's why he hasn't updated the playbook?
He's just like, I don't really feel like it.
Probably. I hate him so much.
I really, really, really hate him.
It's all the Browns fans credit to the Browns.
No, they're awesome.
They play volleyball.
The Browns.
The Browns are going to beat the shit
out of the Steelers next week.
Yeah, they are.
The Browns, the best compliment I can pay to the Browns
is they are so good now at running their offense.
Every time they run a screen pass,
I just expect to go 25 yards.
Like they have that thing going
where when Baker dumps it off to Chunt,
it's like, okay, they're perfectly blocked
and they're going to just run it down your throat.
Yeah, this is a big time take care of business game
for the Browns.
They had to take care of business against a team
that they should beat and they did it.
So it's just like, check this off the list next week.
I'm very excited for the Steelers coming into town.
I think that the Browns are going to hang like 45 points.
Yeah, I do too.
And Miles Garrett was incredible.
I mean, nine sacks is insane.
He even said, he was like, after the first drive,
we kind of figured out what they were doing
and they never changed.
And so that should tell you everything right there.
Clowney had two sacks.
This was a big game for Clowney to show up
and remind people that he still exists
and probably secure his next big contract
because of this game.
It turns out that maybe drafting or going up for a guy
in the second round of the draft,
taking offensive linemen that is the steal of the draft,
but he has back issues at 22
and then needs back surgery before the season starts.
And you're having your entire offensive line
depend on him being good.
Turns out that's not a sound strategy, Ryan Pace.
Well, you can say that in retrospect.
Hindsight is 2020 big cat.
At the time,
I love to pick at the time.
Of course I did.
Of course I did.
I mean, let's not be crazy, I'm not smart.
Anytime you get a blue chip quarterback,
you have to draft an offensive line
and pay way too much for him.
So you can say, and we got the guy
that's going to protect him for the next 15 years too.
Listen, I can't actually do a better job
than these two idiots,
but I can still call them idiots.
That's my right.
I actually think that we could do a better job
as a general manager than a general manager
could do hosting a podcast
where they call out other general managers.
Well, you know what?
I'm going to say I could do a better job
than Matt Nagy in this particular game
because I would have simply had
Justin Fields do super shotgun
where he's like 15 yards away from the line of scrimmage.
There you go.
Shark wheel.
Yeah, like just stay so far back
that you at least have more than one second to throw the ball.
I actually think that we would be better head coaches
than most head coaches
as long as we didn't have to actually be
on the sideline and talk to players.
I think he just gave us a controller.
They wouldn't respect us.
No, not at all.
If you gave us like an Xbox controller
and that's how we selected the plays,
I think we could do a better job than most football players.
Dude, listen, people joke about shark wheel
but it is unstoppable.
When you roll out the quarterback
and you roll out the running back
and everyone has to decide
whether they're going to guard the running back,
guard the run from the quarterback
or get the pass, it's unstoppable.
Maybe put some shark wheel in your fucking playbook.
Take the visor off too.
You don't deserve the visor.
Which he didn't.
He doesn't.
Just go bald?
The visor is Steve Spurrier running it up on people
and kicking the shit out of opponents.
You should have to wear the dunce cap on the sideline.
You don't get the visor.
Wear the cone head, Navy.
Take that visor away.
I know we don't talk about
couch football on Monday's Big Cap
but we did talk about Friday, Wisconsin and the Bears
and which would be worse after the weekend.
Both were just.
Follow up.
Is there one that was worse than the other?
No, they were both equally just so devastating
and different and unique fashions.
One, I watched my teams play eight quarters
and they scored one touchdown.
One.
One.
Graham Mertz might not be the guy, but he's just a kid.
At least you weren't riding high going into the Bears.
Yeah, and you lost.
No, that doesn't help.
At least the Bears lost to a starter.
That's good too.
I mean, the.
I love Drew Pine.
It's too bad we don't do boomers for college
because they're, I retweeted it
but Notre Dame's quarterbacks are Cone and Pine.
Yeah.
Pine Cone.
I do love Drew Pine though.
That is a short king.
But I mean, the Badgers outgain.
It's hard to outgain an opponent and lose 41-13
but they found a way to do it.
They found a way to do it.
And shout out, I was sitting in a suite.
We were doing a pen VIP thing.
Shout out the woman who sat next to me
when the Badgers went up 13-10.
And she's like, are you happy now?
And literally two seconds later,
the kick return happened and everything fell apart.
And she like, she, she left so fast.
I never saw her again.
She mustered.
Yeah.
So it was a bad weekend.
You know what?
Football's a stupid sport.
We shouldn't care about sports.
It's dumb to care this much.
I'm a father of two.
We're in a pandemic, okay?
We're all on the same team.
We're all on the same team.
We're fighting against the coronavirus.
And also as far as your teams go,
they're about on par for everybody else in this room's teams.
We root for the worst teams in sports currently.
I had our coworker, Evan, who does stats,
pull it up and it's not like some crazy stat,
but the Bears and Badgers combined are eight and 15
since October 26th of last year.
Lot of losing football, lot of bad football.
It's good for the podcast though.
Yeah, I just would like to win once, one big one.
But you know, that's not in the cards.
I just am forced to watch like, like Clockwork Orange.
Just have my eyes wide open
while I just watch the worst football possible.
And you're gonna keep doing it.
Yeah, I would actually contend that it'd be better
if the Bears were like kind of good
to make the playoffs.
Yeah, no, I have no hopes.
Like being this bad this early is probably,
it's good, but it could be better.
It's hard to depress me.
Usually I get happy when he gets depressed
because it's fun to watch.
But now it's just like-
It's funner when it's later.
Yeah, he's bringing my football brain down.
The only thing you can root for at this point
with the Bears to like see me more miserable
is have Justin Fields be a complete and utter bust
and then you're a sick fuck.
Like truly, truly a sick fuck.
Cause he's a nice guy.
Probably need to eat some meat, right Billy?
Probably stop being vegan, but you're a sick fuck.
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I don't know if it was because we just did the bears
and I got heated, but we're four games in.
I'm sweating so much.
Yeah, no, it's hot.
It's hot as fuck you, Pete.
Wood Lebronza, it's hot ass hell in this room right now.
Pete, you piece of shit.
Pete, give the boys some AC.
It's also 12.34.
Hank, cut that out.
12.34, kiss, make a wish.
Make a wish.
I wish that Justin Fields wasn't a bust.
I wish the opposite, just for the sake of the show.
Hank, Patriots, Saints, we're gonna do the misery
of this show.
So, thoughts?
Also an extremely disgusting game to watch.
Zero fun.
Mac Jones looked bad.
Josh McDaniels called a bad game.
The offensive line was bad.
James was making James throws that you thought
were gonna be intercepted.
They turned into touchdowns.
He was just dancing around in the pocket too.
He's just so funny.
Mac Jones had some interceptions.
One of them wasn't, a couple of them weren't his fault,
but it was just bad.
It was like, there was no point during the game
where I was like, all right, we have momentum.
Can I give you a little glimmer of hope?
Sure.
Let's look up how many times
Belichick's lost two games in a row.
Because it's probably not that frequent.
There you go.
So, going into next week.
Who do you guys got next week?
It's no one big or good,
or someone they'd make an Adele commercial about.
That's trying to...
Point Tom Brady in the box, Sunday night.
Oh, let's play our favorite game.
Who's the line?
Who's the line?
Who's the line is it anyway?
I'm gonna say, wait, where's the game?
New England.
It's in New England.
I'm gonna say bucks by seven and a half.
It's actually, I don't know if it's changed.
I'm gonna look it up right now.
When Hank and I played, who's the line is it anyway?
A little earlier today, it was five and a half.
It's still five and a half.
I'm gonna take the box.
Yo, yeah.
I'm gonna take the box big time.
Oh, yeah.
But just look up.
See how many times that Belichick lost two games in a row?
Are you?
I cried during that Adele commercial.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For Tom Brady's homecoming.
Tony Soprano, have you gone to that episode?
No, I stopped watching after season three.
Saints defense deserves a lot of credit.
They played great.
And also the Saints in general deserve a lot of credit
because they have not been home for an entire month.
They finally get to go home this week
because of Hurricane Ida they were displaced.
So the fact that they're two and one,
when they weren't able to be home,
they haven't played a home game.
They haven't been at their home facility.
That's a credit to them.
They also get the Giants to come to the Dome
for their first game.
So that's another win.
I love it.
James Winston continues his MVP tear
he's throwing for like,
we need to look up with his ratio of touchdowns to yards.
I have it.
Oh, you have it?
Yeah, so he has.
James Winston is working right now
on the most hilarious season ever.
So he has seven touchdowns thrown.
He has 387 total yards.
That's incredible.
On the season.
That's efficiency right there.
That's insane.
That's efficient.
James and the one that he had today,
maybe the funniest touchdown pass
that I've ever seen James Winston throw
and that's a stacked field to compete with.
The one where he drops back in the pocket.
He gets rushed from the side
and it looked like one of his training videos
where they have like a dog hanging off of his leg
trying to attack him.
And his like feet are stuck in buckets
and he just falls down, throws it over his head
like a hook shot, throws a jump ball.
It ends up working.
But I loved it.
I loved it.
The full James experience in one play.
When he's climbing the pocket
and running around the pocket,
all of his off season training makes sense
because you can see that James,
he's like playing a video game out there
where there are no rushers.
There are just big giant balls coming at his head
and goblins with towels trying to whip him.
That's how he moves in the pocket.
Like, oh, well like he gets scared a couple of times
and kind of jumps back like, oh, here comes the robot dog
to bite me.
And he's just, I just imagined him playing in a video game.
We should have memes maybe do that edit
where it's just little fucking creatures
like trying to grab at him
because that's actually how he moves around.
You know what he looks like?
Not just a video game.
Like if you see somebody playing with the Oculus,
the virtual reality,
James when he drops back in the pocket,
he looks like he's seeing shit that nobody else is seeing.
And he's looking in the strangest directions
and ducking underneath invisible things
and almost falling down.
Oculus QB.
Yeah, he's the Oculus QB before he ever throws a pass.
It's so funny.
He's the best.
He really is.
We knew that Peyton was going to troll Bill Belichick
by putting Taysum Hill into the game
and getting him a touchdown.
That was a no brainer just being like,
you know that you wish you had this
as your quarterback right now.
That's like Belichick's wet dream,
like a more athletic Tim Tebow.
We got him, you don't.
He kind of sealed the game.
They had that long drive where he just iced the clock.
Yeah.
Army slash Navy drive.
I haven't heard anybody refer to Taysum
as a Swiss Army knife recently.
Have we moved past that point?
I think so.
He's grittier than a Swiss Army knife.
They're just not playing in primetime.
Yeah.
They've got a lot of trooperies, primetime.
Joey Tess will definitely call him that.
Or like he's more American than a Swiss Army knife.
He's like, he's duct tape.
Yeah.
That's the US equipment.
He's no, he's Flex Seal.
Flex Seal.
Yeah.
We're riding around in an invisible boat.
Go ahead.
A Leatherman.
A Leatherman.
Yeah, that's a nice tool to call the Leatherman.
So where are we at with Mac Jones meter?
I mean, I think this is a theme on this show.
And I think you're, it's OK to say it is like, hey,
some games just rookie QB games, you know?
Yeah, I mean, it was a struggle.
I feel like the first two games, he
had him in a position to win against the Dolphins.
He didn't play great, but they still should have won that game.
They beat the Jets.
This was just bad.
This was just a bad game.
Need a bounce back.
I feel like in my heart that it's just like there's
going to be so many emotions next week
that the Bucks are just going to absolutely destroy
a rookie quarterback with that much emotion like in Gillette.
So if he can play OK and they can like even that's a thing.
There's just no signs of there's no like great signs.
There's no great throws.
There's no good drives.
They didn't get a first down to like the second quarter.
They just need to show he needs to show something.
The give me something.
Can you please remind me, Hank?
Actually, Jake, remind me when we do Friday's show,
don't let me talk myself into Belichick having some like crazy
thing that he's going to unveil to top stop Tom Brady,
because that's really the only reason you bet on the Patriots,
right? And you could talk yourself into that.
I will. Right.
But I feel my gut feeling is like the Bucks are going to beat them by 30.
Can I have this water?
Yeah, it's more.
It's less Belichick.
This office is like we're in a sauna.
We're you know what?
Today is today is just hell.
I've got we're stuck in hell to the country.
One full water. Go ahead.
So it's less it's less Belichick.
It's more just like the that big of a game.
And Tom Brady is not going to be fazed by it as much and Mac Jones very much is.
Yeah.
All right, but rookie quarterback, just say that.
Yeah, quarterback, you know, bumps along the way.
And they suck.
So yeah, but credit to the Saints.
They were they've been the fact they're two in one.
Their defense looks really good.
And James, we love James forever.
It kept working on the greatest season of all time.
I hope he ends up with 30 touchdowns and 1200 yards.
Yeah.
I mean, it's fun to watch him succeed.
You know what? It's fun to watch.
James have fun.
Yes, exactly.
Winning football from James Winston.
All right, next up, chargers, chiefs.
PFT, if you're OK with me, I'd like to speak on behalf of you and myself
real quick to the audience.
Of course.
I think that as a podcast and myself and speaking for my co-host PFT,
we under any circumstances, we would never, ever, ever
make fun of a coach who has a health issue after a big loss.
No. So we want to say that, Andy Reed, we hope you get better.
We hope you feel better.
If anyone who would ever say like, oh, this guy lost
and then he immediately had a health issue, you're disgusting.
I'd like to just add one word to that.
I would never ever say anything bad ever about a head coach
who had a real health condition right after a game.
Right. And so Andy Reed thought some prayers to you.
We would never do it.
We would never, ever do it, ever, ever do it.
But yeah, I that that broke my heart a little bit to see Andy Reed.
I would actually go as far as they broke my back
and I kind of like laid down on the sideline, the court that was named after me.
Not that wasn't a specific.
I'm not talking about anything specific.
No, are you happy, Coach K?
Yeah, you blew big cats back out.
You did. Coach K did.
No, no, no, we're not talking about.
No, we're just wishing Andy Reed.
I was just throwing a dip during the show.
No, that's late.
Let's just fucking get crazy.
It's 1242. Yeah.
But Andy Reed, we hope you're we want Andy Reed to be better.
Can I add one thing just to the game?
I'll speak for you on the on the stuff that happened in between the lines.
That Patrick Mahomes interception, maybe his best throw of all time.
Hey, maybe you should look at your receiver.
Well, he is receiver was a little bit behind them,
but people were freaking out and saying, like, oh, my God, this no look throw.
Actually, I had I made a list.
The best interceptions of the week.
Yeah, Patrick Mahomes, number one.
Mac Jones had a pretty good interception.
I think it bounced off his receiver's hands and then Big Ben's
intercepts through directly to the to the linebacker.
You're forgetting a huge one.
No, you're forgetting a huge one.
Graham Merz is first pick six.
They got everyone the over.
OK, there you go.
That was the second pick.
That's a good interception.
They got the alternate over.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah, but it's it's not good when you throw an interception on a no look pass
because then suddenly.
And yeah, it did kind of hit the receiver in his hands,
which you should catch it, right, Hank?
But that wasn't even his best interception on the day.
Yeah, no, he was bad.
That was a game.
That was a weird like glitch in the Xbox game where you're like, wait,
how did I lose this game?
Because the Chiefs don't lose that game.
And Patrick Mahomes doesn't throw those interceptions yet they did.
And guess what?
The big story coming from this weekend is this Kansas City Chiefs are now in
sole possession of last place in the F.C. West.
Damn, that's what everyone's talking about right now.
That is what everyone is talking.
That's leads the podcast.
The Chargers, these Chargers can win the Super Bowl.
These Chargers are fucking awesome.
I love I love.
No, no, although I'd still like to see them not like become a completely
different offense every time they get in the red zone.
Don't don't doubt them just yet.
And when you say offense in the red zone, a lot of that has to do with
just running illegal shifts before the play is snapped.
And then they score a touchdown.
It gets taken off the board.
But Joe Lombardi is going to be a head coach if the Chargers continue this,
which kind of sucks for them because right when their offense becomes awesome,
right, they're going to lose their offensive coordinator down the road.
But Keenan Allen, we should respect.
We should take time on this podcast.
Yes, Keenan Allen, because nobody ever mentions him in the list of like
the top five receivers.
It's fair. And he is.
Yes, he's been a top five guy.
When healthy, he's been a top five guy for probably the last six years.
And Brandon Staley, you get a lot of credit because you coach to your
competition, you know, whenever we talk about analytics and going for it.
And people, you know, there is no right answer every single time.
The smart people are like, Hey, you don't just play the numbers.
You play your competition as well.
Well, guess what? His competition is Patrick Mahomes fourth and four from the
30, they ended up getting a five yard penalty.
But fourth and four from the 30 with like 59 seconds left or something,
they go for it because like if we kick a field goal here,
they're just going to come down the field and kick a field goal or score a
touchdown and beat us.
So I think that gets that deserves a ton of credit.
They ended up being a fourth and nine from the 35.
They get a pass interference call.
They score a touchdown, ends the game.
Like that's how you play against the chiefs.
You know that if you kick a field goal late to go up three,
if you give just like we saw with Aaron Rodgers,
you can't win the game like that.
You like it best you're going to go to overtime.
So I want to give him credit.
He deserves credit.
That's kind of a ballsy move.
And he did it. It was ballsy.
I thought it was insane.
I thought that he was going crazy.
I like when it when it worked, it was awesome.
I thought it was it was crazier that he did that than what he did at the
at the end of that drive, where instead of just taking some knees and kicking a
field goal, he tried to score.
I get that he won't score a touchdown.
That's fine.
You know, you never know with the Chargers like you can't trust your kicking game.
Correct.
So you know how they have those the line that they put up the graphic they put up
on the drive where it's red and says, here's your target line to get there
to make a game winning field goal.
They should never have that line for Chargers or Vikings games.
The line should be one yard into the end zone.
And for the Ravens, it should be the entire field.
Yes, the entire field should be the red.
It's you're in the red zone.
But yeah, I like I like the fact that he went for the touchdown at the end.
I know he left my home some time on the clock.
Then he threw a nasty pick at the end.
But the fourth and nine, that's where you know what we're doing right now.
If we're we're cheering that because it worked.
Well, no, no, then they've got like I'm cheering.
Twenty yards to kick a field goal and win.
I'm cheering that because not only are you doing who your competition is in the chiefs,
but also you're doing it in the first slate of games where if it fucks up,
it won't be the main story going into Monday.
That's very if it's Sunday night and you do that.
Yeah. And it doesn't work.
You get roasted.
So time and place, smart time and place and the Chargers.
That's a huge, huge win.
And I don't I think the Chiefs are going to be fine, but it does clearly look
right now like they're not, you know, humming on all cylinders.
They're not 100 percent.
Although they do have another guy that we have to learn.
I got pissed off during this game because my home's through a touchdown
pass to Jody, what's his name?
Jody Fortin, Jody.
Sure, Fortnight.
Jody Fortnight.
And so now, OK, he's got another huge guy that he can throw.
Jody Fortson, every dad in the Kansas City
area is going to call him Jody Jody Fortnight.
Jody Fortnight thing you play.
So now we have he can pass to Hill.
He can pass to Kelsey, Robinson, Hardman, Pringle.
And now he's got another guy, Fortnight, that we have to learn because Clyde
Edwards, Larry's awesome and Clyde Edwards.
Tiller is really, really good too, and he's not fumbling the ball.
So that's another guy that we have to just mentally prepare to hear his name
called out when we least expect it on like a 70-yard touchdown pass.
Yep. Yep. But yeah, the Chiefs are, I don't want to say broken.
No, well, no, because, you know what, they they barely lost the Ravens.
They they hadn't chances to win this game.
They kind of just started very slow.
I'm going to say the the Chiefs are sleepwalking through the first quarter
of the season.
And I think that's fine.
I think they'll figure it out, figure it out eventually.
But the Chargers, I still think are going to win that division.
Yeah. And I mean, with the only one team getting a buy, it does kind of like
you can't really sleepwalk for much longer than this.
You know what I mean?
I don't think I'd have to look at like the entire AFC, but like, I mean,
what 13 and four is probably the buy, like the threshold.
12 and five doesn't feel like a buy number.
13 and four feels like the buy that's out.
I don't know these numbers are new.
But 13 and four means with 18 weeks, you can now split the season into six.
Oh, I don't like that.
Yeah, it's too many.
But if they let's just start doing denominators now, let's just say 13
and four is the is the magic number for the buy.
The Chiefs now have to go 12 and two, which they can do, which they can do.
But it's also a lot less of a room for error.
They're going to lose probably one of the Raiders and Gruden is going to be like,
give me another contract and the Raiders will lose every game afterwards.
I, Andy, just don't come back too soon.
Yeah, Andy, you know what you can do?
Again, we would never we never have a coach.
Let Andy Reed do the thing where he coached where he coaches the game
from the hospital bed that's in the suite, that's set up.
The old Liberty, his name's screwed it out.
What's his name?
Help me.
He frees.
There we go.
He frees.
He's beat him in the second.
Yeah.
Let Andy Reed do the Hugh Freese thing.
Where he coaches from a very, maybe a nice, a nice lazy boy recliner.
Do you think that a coach K called Andy Reed and was like, Hey, you know,
technically, it's your legal right that you can make Eric.
The enemy eat that loss.
Like that, that should be hit.
Oh, and one head coach, Eric.
I think he probably probably just like, I just want to give you a tip.
Hope you're feeling better.
But just so you know, every loss for the rest of the season, you don't have to
take on your record.
I think coach K has like a set amount of fruit baskets that he could send out
that have a note in them that say that.
And anytime a coach has a health care, he just tells his assistant, Hey,
just mail that send a basket out.
Yeah.
But this year it has a note on it's like, Hey, just a reminder,
I'm retiring this year.
If you want to send me something back.
Right.
It's like, yeah, it's like Derek Jeter for coaches getting injured.
Yes.
What?
You get too much dip in your mouth.
So you can't even reply.
I don't know.
All right.
Falcons Giants, Arthur Smith's beard.
Let's fucking go.
Looks great.
Guys got a beard.
He's one and all with the beard.
The chin is not there, but it's less not there.
He called it a get a win beard.
Yeah.
And you know what?
It worked and you can't shave it now.
No, you can't because I'm not that there's anything wrong with your.
No, his chin is totally normal.
Normal chin, which is regular, but you can't argue with results.
You can't shave in the middle of a winning streak.
We call that an uncle chaps.
Yep.
And then that never was creamed by Boris.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that was not his.
He got creamed.
Yeah.
Want me to cream you as he told us all time, ugly picture.
But yeah, congrats to Arthur Smith again.
That first it's tough to win in this league.
It's tough to win every win should be celebrated, even if it's over the Giants.
I do want to say that we should probably get a share of this win
because we are the ones that motivated him to get the beard that got him the win.
So credit to us.
Good job, coach.
The chin, totally normal chin, but also a lot.
More normal when you have a beard that you're growing in.
I can't wait till the beard gets a little bit fuller
so that we can actually tell him what to shave it into.
So it's like a nice lens.
It's like a new lawn that's growing in right now and we get to landscape.
Yeah.
I think I think the like mid 90s release picture van dyke goatee.
Yeah, pretty good on.
He needs to get a little bit more hair going because right now I think there's
like a little salt and pepper maybe going on.
It almost looks like a tub of chive cream cheese
where it's like there's some kind of weird shit in your cream cheese.
Not that his chin normally looks like a tub of cream cheese,
but that would be something I just throw out there to say like a big shredded coconut.
Yeah, like what's in this cream cheese?
I don't know, but is this salmon?
Is this what's going on here?
That's kind of what he's going with right now.
Well, I think he looks great.
It's yeah, and he should keep it up.
Yeah, and I and who doesn't love cream cheese?
No, I love your chin.
I love cream cheese.
Yeah, it's the best melting off of your well, not melting.
Well, he also doesn't really have a chin for it to melt.
I'd say it's frozen cream cheese melting off of his lips, where the chin should be.
OK, but he got to win.
You got to win.
We love Arthur Smith.
He's going to come on this show.
We fucking love the guy.
The big story coming out of this game was actually postgame.
And yeah, the Giants owner, John Marra.
Oh, Mr. Mr.
Excuse me, Mr.
Can you delete that?
Mr. Marra.
Thank you.
Delete. Yeah, bleep out the word John, please.
Giants owner, Mr. Marra, knocked over a trash can.
At two trash cans that were by accident or is old.
No, the initial report in the in the in the New York Post, it said,
Marra seemingly knocks over a trash can in frustration after the game.
Taunting.
I looked at the picture.
It was too small.
Trash can, whoa, wait knocked over.
Like how small?
That's a pattern.
How small?
Slightly bigger than Daniel Jones's hand.
Shin height.
They look to be like hip height.
Oh, OK.
Those are decent sized trash kids.
No one wants to see that.
No, no one.
Again, taunting.
Yeah, find him.
Find his ass.
Throw him out of the game.
Yeah, no, I I think I think the Giants.
I think Joe Judge might be losing the team.
I mean, they're just not good.
I don't really know.
Like you can't even point to one specific thing in this game.
They got a couple of guys got hurt.
I think Darius Slayton was out of the game.
Evan Ingram fumbled.
Like they just when they needed to play good defense, Maddie Ice, who shout out
Maddie Ice, he is now tied with Matt Stafford.
Thirty nine game winning drives.
Wow.
Thirty nine.
It's pretty good.
I thought it was it was really indicative that they were able to go out there and lay
this egg even on Eli night.
Yeah, Eli Day at the ballpark.
They put him in the ring of honor and they thought they could get away.
They couldn't even get to get the team going for Eli Manning.
But it's you know what I mean.
Like tied for Eli.
That would have been a tie on Eli Day.
The worst the worst part about this game for Giants fans is like Daniel Jones didn't
fumble.
He didn't throw any interceptions.
I don't think.
No.
Like there wasn't any comically terrible Joe Judge decision.
They just aren't good.
They say one got hurt too.
Yeah.
They just aren't good.
I don't know if he's not healthy.
He's not a hundred percent.
Yeah.
Because I think he like left the game for treatment mid game, which tells me probably
shouldn't have been playing right to begin with.
Right.
But yeah, they're just the Giants just kind of stink.
Yeah, they're just not good.
They're just not a good football team.
But the Giants are also the team that I think when they won both their Super Bowls, I think
they started 0 and 2 or 0 and 3 both those seasons.
There you go.
You can always talk about that.
The member last week we talked about how Matt Ryan's his professional quarterback at
this point.
Like or what did we say?
I said I was sad.
Well, no, I yeah, we said he was we were sad a week one, but like he's no, I was sad
week two.
Yeah, I was sad week one.
But he he just like that that drive he had when they're down 14 seven.
That was just like, hey, Matt Ryan, he still is better than than average.
I think he's slightly better than average in the set in a perfect set of circumstances
with all the stars and planets aligning just perfectly.
Matt Ryan can be a good quarterback.
Yeah.
But usually he's these days he's like sad.
The only other note I had is like, I feel like in 15 years, we'll still watch quarter
L Patterson on a new team being used like, you know, out of the backfield and being
like, whoa, this is awesome.
As a running back.
Holy shit.
Like how could they stop this?
Yes.
That's never going to stop.
It's never ever going to stop.
It's still fast.
Yeah.
He is fast.
Very fast.
You want to speak of sad quarterbacks.
Bengals Steelers.
Bengals 24 Steelers 10.
We have to talk about this.
It's like this is bad.
It's like watching your dog get old.
It's bad, man.
It's really bad.
It's sad to watch.
He can't go down the steps when the elevator's out.
He's still like, he'll still have a couple moments every day where he'll like wag his
tail and run around and you're like, oh, this is fun.
Yeah.
But yeah, watching Big Ben play football at this time.
And you know what?
The worst part is like, even if you look at his, he had two interceptions.
One was so, so bad where he was like tripping over him.
So he did triple for himself a different play, but this one he tripped over himself and
threw an interception to a linebacker that was standing, not really covering anyone like
five feet in front of him.
Yeah.
The linebacker was about to turn around and look for somebody to cover because he wasn't
doing anything.
You take this.
Yeah.
Maybe he's colorblind, like an old dog.
I don't know.
It was, it was like right.
Sorry, Bubba.
He was right into his chest.
I have a fun side note Bubba story.
I could share one real quick.
Okay.
Bubba texted me on Saturday and he was like, Hey, could you, if you see, see Shane Gillis,
he's one of my favorite comedians at the game today.
Tell him what's up.
And I was like, Oh, okay, cool.
Like Shane Gillis.
Like he is a very funny comedian.
He's got a new special out.
I'll definitely tell him what's up.
So I go and I look Shane Gillis like his Instagram stories.
He was at the Texas game.
The Texas, Texas tech tech game.
He was at a football game.
He was at a foot.
He was walking out and there was a, there was a, there was a painted end zone.
But because Bubba doesn't know colors, he was like, well, I don't, he's at the Texas
game.
He's in the state of Texas.
Wait.
I was in Chicago, Illinois.
The end zones there were red, right?
Orange and red are pretty close.
It's a dark orange and Texas.
I was like, Bubba, he's not, we're in very different states.
Might have been high as well.
I'm colorblind.
All right.
Sorry.
Go back.
Sadness.
No, I'm just.
I'm just sad.
I'm sad watching him.
He, that one where he threw, he fell down as he was trying to throw, he was trying to
take two steps to his right and throw a pass and he just fell down.
He looked like a toddler trying to drive a car.
It just, it's, it's tough to watch him out there and I don't, I don't play with a life
alert.
He should.
He actually should play with a life alert attached to his, to his waist because I really
do think one of these times is going to fall down and not be able to get back up.
Well, you can't bench him if you're the Steelers, right?
Okay.
Well, all right.
So that's the thing.
People are mad.
Still drew for 300 yards and he had 38 completions.
But if you watch the game, it's so bad.
I think people are now mad at Mike Tomlin for not benching Ben for not making him retired.
Yeah.
But if you're Mike Tomlin, can you really tell Ben?
I guess Mike Tomlin would probably be the guy that could do it.
Where's that guy who, who said that Big Ben would be closer to MVP than.
What insane person are you?
Remember that reporter who was talking about Big Ben's diet?
Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's closer to MVP than bottom of the league.
No, he looked very sad today.
Also, TJ Watt is, turns out TJ Watt very, very important because the Steelers snapped
their streak of 75 straight games with a sack.
They didn't get a, they didn't record a sack.
He matters a lot and Joe Burrow looked good, efficient day.
You look good and Jamar Chase looks awesome and trolled us in single coverage.
What's up?
Jamar Chase trolled us with officially, yeah, Jamar, Jamar, Jamar Chase can catch football.
Yes.
He was fucking with us.
Great job, Jamar.
You played us.
No, we didn't get, we, we knew, we kind of knew, you can't fuck with us that, but yeah,
he trolled us and when he's in single coverage on the outside, you might as well just blitz
that cornerback because nobody's proven that they can run with them and also out jump them
in the end zone because whenever they run that nine route, it's just, it's cash every
single time.
It's cash.
Jamar.
You thought you could slip that one by this.
Jamar Chase bank.
It's cash.
Tomlin threw a dump off on fourth and 10.
I had that as a note that you just said it's straight cash.
It's a 36 year old man.
You said it's cash.
It was cash.
Yeah.
It was cash.
And by the way, fuck you guys for the nephew thing.
Snoop Dogg says nephew all the time.
It's cash.
I've heard Snoop Dogg, Snoop Dogg can't stop saying nephew ever since you guys made fun
of me.
That was the.
You said cousin.
That was the.
You didn't say the right one.
No, I said, I said Steve Buscemi gift.
That's you saying it's cash.
It's cash.
It's cash.
But yeah, the Bengals look good and the Steelers are very sad.
And you know what?
It's going to get worse for the Steelers before it gets better because they have to play at
the Packers versus the Broncos versus the Seahawks at the Browns.
I have a question for you about Steelers fans.
How long is it until Steelers fans boo Big Ben?
I don't think ever.
I really don't.
I think that's actually the beauty of Steelers fans is they'll never like they they they
respect.
They respect.
They respect what Ben has done.
No, they respect.
They don't.
They're mad.
No, you're you're wrong.
But they're mad.
I don't think they can.
I don't think they can.
I think they'll just play out this season.
I don't be sad about it.
Hope the defense gets him to like nine or 10 wins in a playoff exit and then just move
on.
I don't.
TJ Watt comes back like their defense is still very good.
Their defense could be good with TJ Watt back, but I don't know if they're going to
get to the playoffs.
And I think that maybe they're starting to turn on Big Ben a little bit.
I don't.
I'm not saying that they're going to boom like next week.
Wait, there's a difference though the week after there's a big difference between turning
him on him on Twitter, where he has everyone blocked and it doesn't really matter versus
like he unblocked everybody.
But in real life, but in real life, there's no way that like people will say shit about
Big Ben on Twitter and they will not say it to his face.
You will not boo.
You can say it from the crowd.
That would be disgusting.
I expect more out of Pittsburgh.
I think they might.
They respect football.
They respect the game.
I think they might.
If Big Ben comes back next year, they will definitely boo.
If he comes back next year and the Browns should just change the locks or the Steelers should
just change the locks and not let him back in.
We should also respect Joe Mixon.
Yes.
You know what Joe Mixon is?
He's he's a professional.
Well, he's a consummate pro.
When the Bengals can run the ball, their offense looks better than competent.
So and they're two in one.
The Bengals are two in one.
Yep.
That's that's significant.
I'm just looking.
We week four, five, six, the Steelers play Sunday night football.
That will be very sad at home.
Seahawks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's going to be very sad.
All right.
Next up.
Cardinals Jaguars, another rookie quarterback, Billy, Billy hashtag Billy was right again.
Trevor Lawrence bust.
I think in the environment he currently is in, it's very hard for him to soften it.
I like this.
OK.
But yeah, I don't see him do you know what always sucks when your rookie quarterback
is struggling and then you try to run a flea flicker and then he throws an interception
from the flea flicker.
It looks especially dumb off his back foot.
Yes, it looks especially dumb.
He wasn't even going for the for the big throw on the flea flicker.
No, it was like going for the check.
It was like a 20 yard flea flicker back foot interception.
Yeah.
So bad.
That was that was really bad to see the Jaguars got the kick six though.
They got the kick six.
So that was electric.
Urban Meyer was right.
It's like playing against Alabama every week, every week, every single week.
The Jaguars are the number one.
How did they not cover this game team of the week because they were up 19 to 10 with three
minutes left in the third quarter and they lose 31 19.
Like that's hard to do.
And they did it.
The Cardinals did not play very well.
They made the plays when they needed to also the Cardinals.
I think every week we're just going to be like, damn, I forgot the Cardinals have this
guy like AJ Green had 112 yards like Deandre Hopkins didn't have they were they focus their
defense on Deandre Hopkins, but they still have AJ.
How did the NFL let AJ Green become a super teams?
I don't know.
It is a super team right now.
Bullshit.
That's where everyone's going is out to the desert shout out to Chandler Jones, who has
not had a single sack since he got five sacks in week one.
Damn.
I love that.
Just like build it.
It's like a salesperson working on commission.
Yeah.
You get you hit your quota.
Yeah.
And then you get to coast for a few weeks.
Free roll.
You can you can get by for probably like nine or 10 games.
Yes.
On those five sacks.
Yeah.
As long as you're still in the mathematical realm of like getting to double digits on
the year, people will totally forget anything you've done past that five seconds.
Make one video and you're like, I'm good for a month.
There you go.
That's kind of the content game equivalent.
Yes.
It was nice.
Trevor Lawrence had a nice TD throw.
But yeah, the Jags are I mean, so actually let's do the Broncos right now too because
what like worst team in the NFL is it?
Is it the Jaguars or is it the Jets?
I think it's the Jets.
I think it might be the Jets.
I think it's the Jets.
But the crazy thing is I actually I think these jets would be favored by a point over
last year's jets.
I don't know if they played on a neutral site.
How's Sam Darnall playing?
Is he playing like this Sam Darnall or that Sam Darnall?
He's playing like that Sam Darnall and they're playing.
They're playing at wait.
They're playing at the Meadowlands, but it's a Giants home crowd.
But you know that that Sam Darnall has this Sam Darnall somewhere inside of inside of
it.
But who knows what this Zach Wilson has inside of him?
We don't know yet.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Mr. Mr. I&T.
Billy.
Yeah.
That was a tough scene today with Mr. I&T.
But I think it he is actually improving.
How?
Yeah.
Well.
You give us like ways.
He threw two I&T's today.
Right.
So yeah.
He's twice as good as he was last week.
Exactly.
You tweeted that it was an improvement from last week.
It was.
It was in some respects.
I'll give you an improvement.
There's less interceptions.
He's starting to look a little bit older because I think the Jets age people at a rapid, rapid
pace like presidential years or dog years.
He now he looked like a high schooler.
Now he looks like a PG high school.
Right.
He's starting.
He stays on the Jets for another two years.
He's going to look like he's 40.
So that's good.
No.
But I mean he ran the team well.
He did.
He kept the like.
What?
He took the sack.
He scored zero points.
He ran the team well.
They haven't scored a touchdown since week one.
You're not listening.
I know.
But he ran the team well.
Instead of throwing picks, he was taking sacks.
So.
You know, he's, you know, making better decisions.
He managed to throw some picks.
He managed his mistakes better.
Exactly.
Okay.
Do you think they're the worst team in the NFL?
Well, well, their defense was pretty good today.
If you look at it.
Okay.
Like they were.
I mean.
Yeah.
Their third down percentage was actually like super high for stopping.
Okay.
One third down and in the red zone, I think they stopped the Broncos.
There's a fumble.
Twice.
Yeah.
Two, five in the red zone.
So if their offense could start pointing together drive and stop putting so much pressure
on the defense, I think they could actually get in some close games, like win some games.
I'm looking at a picture of him right now.
He doesn't look like a high schooler anymore.
Yeah.
No, I'm telling you, the jets have aged.
He looks like a guy that's playing a high schooler in a movie, which is like that's
an extra at least three years that we found like the antidote to the, the Mormon youth.
You know, like the, like AC green.
He wasn't Mormon.
I don't think.
But there's just a verge.
Yeah.
The guys who don't drink or have sex, they are going to look younger for the rest of
their life.
The jets are the antidote for that.
You put them on the jets.
It's like going on a million benders and fucking a thousand hookers.
Tim Tebow still looks good though.
Yeah.
But yeah, you're right.
You're right.
He, he looks like he's, he's seen some shit in just the last couple of weeks.
Is that mine?
No, that's for me.
But their offensive line actually looks pretty decent.
It just doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't look decent.
I think it's terrible.
But most of his sacks were him taking too long in the pocket.
Okay.
So you hold on to the ball too.
Right.
I think it's the.
So you're saying better to hold on to the ball too long than throwing an interception.
Right.
What about getting the ball out on time?
Well, I don't think the Y receivers are open.
Okay.
That's why I, that's why I think it is.
We're working on that.
And that was, yeah.
I mean, listen, we're all going or many of us on this podcast are going through rookie
quarterback woes.
Right.
We need to support each other.
Exactly.
And be like, Hey, you know what?
What you just said, that makes sense.
Also, I think it's the Y receiver court that needs to, they're putting too much pressure
on Zach Wilson to make all the plays.
Okay.
If you're not getting separation and then when he does make a throw, like the one.
He's trying to force.
He's trying to make something happen.
He's just making interceptions happen.
Yeah.
You got to catch, you got to catch it.
You got to help out your rookie quarterback when he does make a good throw.
Exactly.
Eight quarters, six points.
The last eight quarters just have six points in the three games this year.
They have 20 points total and 15 sacks.
So this will be a fun race to see points or sacks, which one are the jets going to have
more of by the end of the year.
So the Broncos are three, you know, you know what they might be?
They might be my fool's gold team.
Broncos might be.
They've played, you know, and they've played teams that between between the three of them
have not won a game.
Yeah.
The jets, the Jaguars and the Giants, the Broncos have played.
That is, who do they have next because that like, oh, the Ravens might be time to bet
on the Raiders Browns.
Yeah.
I mean, they, I think they're okay because their defense is good.
I do love Vic Fangio and Teddy Bridgewater.
I mean, all he does is win games.
He's right now, Teddy Bridgewater is 54 for 70, 592 yards and four touchdowns.
That's crazy, like efficient three and O against the spread this year, 77% completion.
Teddy Bridgewater give him some flowers.
But yeah, no, they, they've played, they have played the worst teams.
If they could just find a way to schedule the Bears and I don't know who else is really
bad.
So the Texans are not good.
Yeah.
The Texans and the Bears.
Throw them in there.
Bears, Jaguars.
They played the Jaguars.
The rest of the NFC Beast.
Yeah.
Get some more wins there.
Sorry.
What does that mean?
Salas and Philly, of course.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
Love it.
Yeah.
You can, if you can play the NFC East and the AFC South, you'll have a good, good year.
That's the trick.
All right.
Dolphins Raiders.
Jake, you're up.
Jaguari Ressets, not bad.
Yeah.
I mean, this was a game that you see on paper, right?
No, to a cross country, probably.
No, I think that's a positive, by the way.
No, to a.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean, the camp of Jacobi Berset is not a step down from to a.
Yeah.
So they started off hot.
Yes.
And then the Raiders got a safety and it kind of unraveled from there.
Fuck everything.
I actually think this is this is a game that the Raiders would lose by 21 in late October,
early November.
Yeah.
Once Gruden has got really gotten his hands on the team for a few months and they start
to tune them out a little bit, but credit to the Raiders.
They, they went down and they didn't let it get away from them.
But yeah, last year's Raiders, especially towards the end, they would get smoked.
They would be demoralized by that start.
I got a staff for you for the Raiders fans out there.
The Raiders are the first team in NFL history to start a season three and oh, beating all
teams that won 10 games the previous season.
At least 10, right?
At least 10.
The Ravens, Dolphins and the Steelers.
It's crazy that Dolphins won 10 games last year.
It's crazy the Steelers did too.
They had a crazy, what was the Saturday night game?
Well, no, yeah, they were the best 11 and 0 team of all time.
This game last year in Vegas was the craziest Saturday night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it was, yeah, I mean, the Dolphins fought, I still don't understand what they were doing,
running two, not one, but two Wildcat plays from the goal line.
Just end it.
Stop.
Wildcat is over.
It had its moment.
Just stop.
They were kind of like it.
It's so stupid.
It's fun.
It's so dumb.
In college, yes.
In NFL, it makes no sense.
Yeah.
Everyone knows how to defend in the NFL.
It was funny at the end of overtime, too, when the Raiders, so the Raiders kick a field
goal.
Dolphins come back, kick a field goal.
Raiders get the ball again.
They go down the field and John Gruden did not want a kick a field goal to win.
He doesn't trust kickers.
He doesn't like kickers.
He wants to score touchdowns.
Yep.
And he tried and then they were running out of time and then he said, you know what?
Fuck it.
Let's take it down to two seconds.
The field goal.
I was hoping for a tie.
A tie.
A tie would have been great in this game.
I was going insane because I was listening to it in the car and Brent Musburger does the
Raiders radio broadcast and he so clearly had bet on the Raiders.
So he just was openly being like, score a touchdown.
Go for a touchdown.
Go for a touchdown.
And his co-host was like, well, the smart play here would be run out the clock and kick
the field goals.
And Brent finally was just like, we're in Vegas.
Yeah.
And his co-host was like, oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
We want to, we want a touchdown.
Yeah.
Al Davis didn't say just tie baby.
Yeah.
It was just driving me nuts because I had to delve into the shop print.
No, I felt like it was going to push them to score.
I had the Raiders.
I was doing the Brent Musburger myself.
I love Brent.
Yeah.
I feel like that's a Jim Calhoun like retirement.
You retire from the big broadcast, but you're still broadcasting saying in Vegas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just yelling about point spreads.
Yeah.
And I know that like it's such a ridiculous thing to get mad about, but if you have something
opposite of the announcer and he's saying, I want go for a touchdown, I was screaming
at my radio like, shut up Brent, kick a field goal.
It was what I was just going to say, are we, are we all in on Derek Carr?
Because it's like Derek, Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins are in a game of chicken to see who's
going to turn into a pumpkin first.
Yeah.
So let's talk about Kirk Cousins, but I'm not, I am, if it were a pool, if Derek Carr
were a pool, I have my shirt still on, but I'm sitting on the edge with my, both my feet
in.
Okay.
Fair?
Yeah.
If, if Kirk Cousins is a pool, I'm in the shallowing, I'm shooting a basket at the pool
side basket thing up to my thighs and water.
If Kirk Cousins a pool, I'm standing at the edge and I'm peeing in it without even going
in the pool and everyone in the pool is like, ew, why are you doing that?
I'm like, cause I don't really like the guy.
I like, I like him.
Nice guy.
I just think that if you buy too hard into Kirk Cousins, you're setting yourself up.
Yeah.
You're going to get hurt.
Ultimate disappointment.
If you buy too hard into Kirk Cousins, you'll be in the one pool that's ever been created
where if you pee, it actually shows up as ink.
Yeah.
No, at the side of Kirk Cousins pool, it says 10 feet and then you dive into it and it turns
out that it's two feet deep and you break your neck.
That's correct.
Kirk Cousins though, he's like efficient.
They won the game.
This Viking Seahawks game also proved a very important point for all GMs in the NFL.
If you're back up physically and hairstyle looks like your starter, he'll be just as
good because, uh, what's the name, Alexander Madison was awesome.
Yeah.
He looks like Dalvin Cough.
I've always believed that definitely with like the dreads.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
And they ran the same offense, right?
That they do.
They didn't really skip a beat and Madison played pretty well today and they, they absolutely
like killed the clock in the second half.
So first half Vikings came out, they scored some good touchdown.
They had some solid drives.
Kirk Cousins, I think through what, three touchdowns in the first half.
Second half, the Vikings had the ball for 22 minutes and 40 seconds out of the 30 minutes
in the second half.
Yeah.
It's tough to beat them when they have the ball the entire time.
And it's, it's what we've always said with Kirk Cousins.
When Kirk Cousins has a running game to, to even everything out and he doesn't have to
stand in the pocket and like, you know, get sacked and look super short.
It can be a competent quarterback.
So here it is.
We're telling you right now, Kirk Cousins can be a competent quarterback, but be careful.
Kirk Cousins are a car.
Be careful.
Yeah.
We don't want to see you get hurt.
Jump and feet first.
Yeah.
Don't go ahead first.
The Vikings are a weird team though, because they really are like two plays away from being
three and all.
They're the best O and two team.
They wanted to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were the best O and two team in the NFL.
But like the conversation about them is so different if they're three and all right
now.
You know, it's real close.
Yeah.
The Seahawks are broken again.
Stop me if you heard this before, but the Seahawks are broken.
So Seahawks, this season, first half, 21 points, second half, seven points, first half, 24
points, second half, six points, first half, 17 points, second half, zero points to add
it all up in the first halves of this season.
They've scored 62 points in the second halves of the season.
They scored 13.
That's pretty remarkable.
They need more conditioning work.
That's a stark difference.
That's where your coach would tell you back in high school and middle school.
If you got outscored in the second half, you just got to run more.
Yeah.
So Pete Carroll just just make them run more.
Yeah.
That's it.
It's a simple fix at this point.
But that feels broken.
It does feel broken.
I actually don't think that Pete Carroll is a very good head coach from an ex's nose
standpoint.
Obviously, from like game management, he can be okay sometimes recruiting, getting against
recruits houses.
Exactly.
Yeah.
His credit score is really good.
Uh huh.
As far as like ex's nose type stuff goes, he gets a lot of credit for winning that Super
Bowl, which they dominated with an all time defense.
I don't think he's, I don't think he's that great of a head coach.
Yeah.
I mean, you can definitely make the case for it because he's a big culture guy.
Yeah.
And he does set up a culture matters.
He does set up a good culture.
Culture does matter.
And the Seahawks have been, they've been pretty good, but they've also had Russell Wilson on
their team.
Yeah.
Since 2012, which, which that certainly helps a lot.
But I don't know what like it, I never understood if you are that good coming to start the game
and it's, maybe it's the first 15 plays, just run it again, run the first 15 plays again
or run it in reverse.
Yeah.
They'll forget.
Yeah.
Right.
Do you think another team would actually pick up on the fact that you're running the same
15 plays in the same order?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think they would.
A coach should at least try it.
Also before the game, they sprinkled fake snow on the field to get the Vikings to get
the fans feeling like real Minnesota pride.
Ragnar would have absolutely torn up.
He would have fucking.
He would have done donuts on the snow.
Oh shit.
Ragnar.
Yeah.
RIP.
All right.
Last game and then we'll get to the football guys the week and who's back.
Bucks Rams, Matt Stafford.
Has he arrived?
Stafford is like, I think he's the MVP.
He's having his moment.
He is.
I actually feel really good about my take, my longstanding take that Matt Stafford is
going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Seeing Matt Stafford go out there and beat Tom Brady like this, that was like twisting
the knife on Lions fans too.
Yeah.
The Lions, they always have to have one guy on the team who would win MVP if he was on
a really good team.
Yes.
He was awesome.
I looked it up.
So Matt Stafford is 33 years old right now.
Let's say he just plays, let's say let's call it four years, which could be more, but
four years.
If he goes 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns in the next four years, he will end up, uh,
top eight all time in passing yards and top five all time in touchdowns.
It varies because there's some current guys who are still obviously playing that are ahead
of him.
But I don't know, like if he can make the missing piece for him is playoff success.
If he can make a Super Bowl, if he can make a couple NFC championship games, I don't know.
And if Stafford is going to have a case, he's, he's a very, he's a good quarterback.
If you're out there saying big cat, those numbers sound pretty high.
Well, guess what?
There's 17 games now.
Yeah.
So that's not a playoff game.
No, but that's not, that's not like a, no, I don't think it includes playoff games.
I mean, he averages more than 4,000 yards a season.
Maybe it's a little bit high on the touchdowns, but that's not like a crazy season for him.
So when you said 33 years old, I was like, holy shit, I would, I would think that Matt
Stafford is like 36, 37 years old, just based on what he's been through and all the injuries
and shit that he's had.
Maybe that was high on the touchdowns because he has had, he's only had one season where
he's been over 35 touchdowns.
He had 41 when he was in 2011, but he averages like over 4,000 yards a season.
So let's say he has 30 touchdowns, he's still going to end up like top 10 in both categories.
Now how do you rate this error?
I have no idea.
I just know that when you have those types of numbers, and if he can figure out a way
to get to a Super Bowl or even win a Super Bowl ring, then it's like, if Matt, let me
just say this.
Whoever wins a Super Bowl this year, the very first thing they'll say on first take the
next day is Matt Stafford's a whole thing because that will be it.
You're just early to the conversation.
Yeah.
I was like five years early and got roasted for it for a very long time.
Just chill out, man.
Sean McVeigh.
Did you see him sprinting at the end of the first half?
He looked like Dabo.
He looked like either Dabo or like Jimmy Vee after he won the national championship and
was looking for somebody to hug.
Yes.
Sean McVeigh.
Coach Pros.
He was just, yeah, come on.
Let's, let's maintain an air of professionalism.
Right.
You want to go coach Georgia Tech and do that?
Go ahead.
Not in the pros.
We respect it.
He could have gone on taunting penalty and heard his team for that.
Yes.
Bruce Arians also looked even redder than he did last week, which was redder than the
week before.
Yeah.
He gets, when he gets mad, he gets, he's like a mood ring for rage.
Yes.
And he was like a ruby red today.
He looked like he had burst every capillary on his face.
Do you think this is a look ahead spot for Tom Brady?
Yeah.
Trouble chocolate up to the look ahead.
Look ahead spot.
Trap game against the Rams.
It was kind of the Rams Super Bowl, early season Super Bowl also Gronk is out with
a rib.
It looked like it looked like a rib.
Yeah.
If you can, if you can bring Rob Gronkowski like down in pain like that and not having
to do with his like legs, that's a hit.
You win.
Yes.
That is a significant hit.
Breakfast club update, Cooper cup and Matthew Stafford, 25 catches, 367 yards, five touchdowns
through three games.
Eat breakfast together.
You perform well.
This is also the first time that Tom Brady has thrown for 400 yards, no interceptions
and lost the game.
Whoa.
Road map.
Did you see our coworker Ken Jack's tweet, which I had never seen on pro football reference
actually now that I'm saying it out loud, knowing that he just lives to troll people.
I'm going to double check that.
Yeah.
Let's see.
What do you say?
I'm going to double check that.
I literally, as I was saying it, I was like, wait, this is Photoshop.
Did you see the image that Ken Jack tried to send me a video yesterday or last week?
Like texted me and I was just refused to watch it.
I was like, I'm not going to watch this video because there's going to be some gross like
cockroaches coming out of something.
Okay.
It's real.
It's real.
Tom Brady on pro football reference for nicknames listed, TB 12.
Stop me when there's one that you haven't used, Hank.
TB 12.
Yep.
Tom terrific.
Yep.
Touchdown Tom.
Of course.
The goat.
Yep.
What?
The ferro.
The ferro.
The ferro.
Scratch.
The ferro.
Anything that's like, you know, puts them at the top, the top, the top of the top, I think
is fair.
I want to find the one person who's called them the ferro.
Who is that?
Show yourself.
The ferro.
It sounds like.
Like Tom Kern.
What a ridiculous thing.
It sounds like Dan Shaughnessy.
The ferro.
It sounds like there was like a very specific game where like Tom Brady beat Cairo Santos.
Yeah.
Dan Shaughnessy in his postgame write up was like, a lot of people are calling him the
ferro.
The ferro.
He just he claps his hands, shuts his computer, takes a big sip of coffee and then takes a
massive shit.
Maybe it was because the goats, the ferro, like walking around, I don't know, that one
makes no sense.
Ferros.
The ferro.
Who were the ferros?
They were the kings of Egypt.
Maybe he hates Jews.
Is that what it is?
Ferros hates Jews.
Well, I mean, they made him build the.
No.
I mean, his best friend is Julian Edelman.
That's true.
That's true.
I have to rectify that.
I have to bring him to Tampa.
A tone.
You have to tone.
He didn't bring in spikes.
Came up with it a few years ago.
Okay.
Why?
Also, he's called the comeback kid or sir.
The quote is me.
I refer to him as ferro because he's amazing.
Okay.
So I'm saying anything that just puts me in the top.
I was expecting it because it comes out every year with that edge.
That's what the great ones do.
Got it.
Well, it's problematic though.
Canceled.
Enslaved people.
You have to cancel the ferro.
Tom Brady.
Cool with that.
I'm sure he is.
I mean, he's leaving people.
No.
Oh.
Canceling it.
Oh, canceling it.
He doesn't call himself the ferro.
Imagine if he did.
Imagine if you met him and he's like, uh, you know what?
I like you.
Go with the ferro.
These were friends.
That'd be some little bronze shit.
The other nickname he has is sir.
Yeah.
Comeback kid or sir.
Sir.
I think that's, I think it's comeback.
Sir.
The comeback.
Sir.
Yes.
The comeback.
When you leave your, when you leave your phone in a car for a valet.
Yeah.
That's what that sounds like to me.
Um, also needs to be noted to Sean Jackson.
We talked about quarter L Patterson just being in the backfield in 15 years to Sean
Jackson in 15 years will play two games and both of them he will have in enormously long
touchdown.
So he actually broke the record today.
He has the record for most 50, 50 plus yard receptions in NFL history.
Sean Jackson.
He beat Randy Moss.
He has 44 of them and he tied the record from nine most, uh, 75 plus yard touchdown
receptions.
Yeah.
It's insane.
All you have to do is just be fast.
It's Sean Jackson.
It's crazy.
No one's asking you to block.
No one's asking you to run like curl routes.
No one's asking you to go across the middle.
Just run straight and then see if somebody can run straight with you and they can't.
And also he leads the league in the history of the NFL for guys that catch a ball and
then act like they're not going to go into the end zone at the last second and almost
get the ball knocked out of their hands, which I love and sometimes do get the ball knocked
out of their hands.
He fucking hates running directly into the end zone.
Yeah.
Absolutely cannot do it.
Well, he's so fast.
He gets, he has time to just hang out.
I think he loves playing football so much that when you get into the end zone, you have
to stop playing football for a second.
So he's savoring every moment of live action that he's in the game.
Yes.
Yes.
And, uh, yeah, two, two records crazy.
He's still doing it.
Um, all right, let's get through football guys the week.
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All right, Billy, football guy of the week.
I'm so hot right now.
Also it's great that we have American Ninja Warrior back on.
Feels like old times.
It's 128.
Yeah, we're here.
All right, Billy, football guy of the week.
So last week, the Steelers fan who shat himself and was cleaning his pants in the bathroom
won.
So congrats to that guy.
Okay, you win a free Chevy.
So first football guy of the week is actually a repeat from last week, but he brought the
receipts so we can talk about this.
Bruce Barnum of Portland State bought 1,300 Kors lights for everyone who came to see the
game.
So he stuck to his word on it, so that's a huge football guy move.
And he also, you know, bought 1,300 Blue Mountains for everyone who watched this guy's play.
So I'm putting them back on there this week because I thought he deserved to be there.
Okay.
I just like to make a running, we'll leave a spot open every week for the person in America
that bought the most Kors lights for other people in America.
Love it, Billy.
And then a second nominee is also a repeat.
No, no.
Oh, that would have been funny.
His name is Connor Davis, a Poplarville High School lineman who put all four high school
football.
I love it.
Well, you know what?
High school football has some awesome football guys.
No, I know.
I know.
So they're under appreciate.
I know.
So he took his senior photo with a stack of pancakes and pouring maple syrup on it.
He's a lineman.
He loves pancakes and it's his senior year photo.
I love this.
This is like on a Sunday night football when they do that halftime thing or they like spotlight
on a different high school football.
That's what we're doing now.
You know what I also love about Billy is sometimes when he's telling us something and he realizes
that there's not a lot of meat to the story that he's telling, he just keeps repeating
the same details.
You know.
So he's like, so there's this lineman and he took a picture of him eating a stack of
pancakes with syrup because he's a lineman and they like pancakes.
So in this picture, he's got the syrup that he's pouring on the pancakes.
It's a great skill.
It's in the stadium.
It's a huge blow up picture.
It's great.
He's making out pancakes.
Yeah.
It's great.
Why pancakes?
Because pancake blocks.
But also because he likes pancakes?
He probably also likes pancakes because he likes eating pancakes after he makes pancakes
blocks.
Because he's an offensive lineman.
Exactly.
OK.
OK.
One of the boss hogs.
Yeah.
Anyway, third nominee is Kenny Chesney, who says that you...
No.
No.
Wait, is he going back on the chillaxification tour?
This is now my favorite, my favorite segment of the week.
You know why Kenny Chesney?
Why?
You know why he's a football guy?
Why?
Because he refuses to tour during the fall because of football.
He doesn't want to, you know, like people playing weddings in the fall.
And it's always on a college football Saturday.
Yeah.
He's not going to do that.
Well, he's got a very busy schedule of being on college game day every fucking Saturday.
They don't have anybody else to make the pick in that town.
I love it.
Yeah.
But he's not touring.
That's a football guy move.
It is a football guy.
He's leaving money on the table.
It's also like a...
I like aspire to be where I can be like, hey, I don't have to work all football season.
That's awesome.
Thank you, Kenny Chesney.
Yes, thank you.
I think we do all aspire to reach a level of being rich where we just take our phone
off the hook for the entire fall.
Yeah.
It's like, hey, we got...
It's football season.
I can't be bothered.
Do not disturb.
With my busy schedule, I can't be bothered to return your calls.
Yes.
And the last nominee is Mark Ferrante, head coach of Villanova.
Okay.
I may have butchered that name.
Covered the spread.
Covered the spread.
But throughout practice all week, he had leaf blowers going to mimic the Beaver Stadium
noise.
So he was just leaf blowing his quarterback all through practice, just put it right up
to his head.
That's fantastic.
That sounds like the next James Drill is just have like five guys with a wind tunnel.
Yeah.
Like head shimmers and all sorts of landscaping equipment just going at them.
I love it.
Good job.
Even though they didn't win, it is the FCS team and they did cover.
They covered the spread.
Yes.
Listen, FCS teams covering the spread is a win.
That's formally division one, double a.
Yes.
Yes.
Good job, Billy.
Everyone vote.
Blog up tomorrow.
Yes.
Okay.
It's already written.
Beautiful.
It's in the chamber.
Beautiful.
All right.
Let's finish up.
We got who's back of the week.
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Hank, who's back of the week?
The USA, United States of America.
We are back.
Thanks to the Ryder Cup team.
Absolutely skull fucked Europe, 19 to nine, biggest win since 1975.
We walked them off.
Brooks and Bryson are best friends there.
Yeah.
Hugging, holding the cup together, laughing, posting Instagram stories and shit.
Everyone was getting drunk.
It looked like an awesome time in Wisconsin.
I'd like to say something on Wisconsin.
Nice about.
Oh, that's nice.
I'd like to say something nice about Bryson.
If I may.
The t-shirt was one of the best t-shirts ever seen.
Incredible.
Like the fact he just that was Tiger Woods, we're like, fuck it.
I'm just going to see if I can hit 500 yards over all these trees.
And they were winning by so much.
So it didn't really matter.
He was just like, fuck it.
It was so, so funny watching the Euros after day one when they, they have a hole.
So they, they have the match.
They got a half a point to go down like four and they were fist pumping like they had won
the whole fucking thing.
You stupid idiots, USA is the best ever.
This is actually the perfect scenario to kind of be able to root for Bryson in a circumstance.
So like you can pick and choose the parts about his game that are good and fun to watch,
even when he's being an asshole.
Yes.
When he nukes a t-shirt, that's fun to watch.
Yes.
And so we got to root for that when he hit the 417 yard drive.
And then when he drove the green that other time in front of the whole crowd, the gallery
and like put his hands up in there.
And then I actually found myself rooting for Bryson when he was being a prick and put his
putter down on the ground to be like, why didn't you give me that gimme?
Yes.
When he drilled, he sank like the four foot putt.
Yes.
He has like a hundred foot putter.
Yeah.
That was where it was like, you know, the general rule of thumb is like, if it's within
a putter, not assuming that your putter is like six.
Yeah.
Bryson probably had his driver in his back pocket and laid that down and be like, see
that's within 70 inches.
You should have given that to me.
But it was awesome.
Ryder Cup is such a cool like thing.
I know we probably, I think we actually give it an appropriate amount of attention.
It does suck that it goes on during football season.
But it's just awesome because it's like, it's cool that there's teammates playing against
another team, USA, get you a little pumped up.
There's nothing more American to than kicking ass at a sport that we don't really care
about.
Right.
I love it.
And then just parachuting in once every couple of years and being like, yeah, fuck you.
You're up in your face.
You piece of shit.
Right.
You know, like we live and breathe this stuff.
Right.
And all the drunk dudes who like dress up in American flags and it's cool.
I'm in.
I like good who's back, Hank.
Thank you.
Great who's back.
Yeah.
I appreciate that.
I would say my who's back is John Bone Jones.
And then Dana White said, it's not even surprising at this point.
Oh, no.
And so we can just kind of, we could probably kiss goodbye.
Any notion of John Bone Jones coming back to fight for any meaningful title.
I'm not ready to do that.
I'd like to see him come out and call Daniel Cormier a pussy again.
I don't get me excited.
I'll do one of these like boxing events in like five years.
Yeah.
I don't think Dana White's going to give him the time of day.
Maybe rough around.
Yeah.
Maybe rough around.
Who knows?
All right.
My who's back is my ability to hold the grudge and not mention the fact that the Cardinals
won 15 games in a row.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I will never mention it on this show.
Which Cardinals?
The same Los Cardinals.
15 games in a row is a lot.
That's a fucking lot.
But we won't.
We won't talk.
I'm not.
Are they getting out too early?
They're doing, they're winning all these games to fucking play in the one game playoff
and get the shit kicked out of them by the Dodgers.
Have fun guys.
Cool.
It is late September.
I care about draft picks.
Billy.
Billy.
My who's back, my real who's back is people making green day jokes later on.
Yes.
On Twitter.
Yes.
Also my real who's back is misery because I had, sports are stupid.
I really, I need to re-prioritize father too.
Billy.
My who's back of the week is Dog the Bounty Hunter.
Yes.
Dog the Bounty Hunter is on the trail of Brian Laundry.
Peace Brian Laundry.
Turn yourself in bitch.
Dude, you dogs like knocking on his parents.
I saw that.
I saw that.
I'm like six a.m.
Yo, Brian Laundry's toast.
Go with Christ, brah.
Dog.
Hope he's not smoking a fucking ice pipe because dog will smash it with his boots and dogs
also married again, remarried.
He remarried?
Re-married.
After?
A woman who looks kind of similar to Beth.
May she rest in peace.
I hope that dog doesn't give this guy a cigarette though.
No.
Fuck no.
I hope dog puts out the cigarette on his face.
I hope dog lets Leland shoot him with rubber bullets before they fucking zip tie his ass.
What happens if dog finds him before the FBI?
What he will.
He absolutely will.
He's Dog the Bounty Hunter.
Like Brian Laundry probably saw that clip wherever the fuck face is and he's like, all right,
it's over.
Dogs.
Dogs on the case.
It's done.
Damn.
Yeah.
No.
He.
No.
The FBI probably hired dog.
Smoke him out, brah.
Back at Devonte Davis.
Famously retired at halftime of a Bills game.
Yes.
We had a Ohio State player.
It's Vonte Davis.
No Devonte.
I like that.
What'd I say?
Devonte Davis.
I like that.
Devonte Davis.
You said the Vonte.
The.
The Vonte Davis.
I think you also maybe doing a like Devonte Adams who played in Sunday Night Football.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like the Vonte.
It's 2 a.m.
Ohio State player who quit Ohio State football and you know the game.
He just started taking his jersey off and one of the coaching staff members took him
off the field.
Yeah.
He said the Vonte Davis.
Yes.
That's what you were saying.
The Ohio State University.
He saw the four losses on the wall.
They were down 7-0 to Akron.
They were.
I was a little bit afraid.
I was afraid because then Akron somehow didn't cover 49.5 points spread.
I know.
That was ridiculous.
They almost did at the end though.
Insane.
How confident are you?
I mean with news like this I feel great.
Team has fallen apart at the seams.
With the Vonte quitting.
Well it was in honor of the Vonte.
Has Ryan Day lost the locker room?
This would point to yes.
Yeah.
Would it not?
I agree.
No I agree.
Do good teams have players quit in the middle of the season?
Nope.
Never.
Nope.
Jake finish us off.
We're all so hot, sweaty, tired.
My who's back of the week is Joe West.
Yep.
Crazy things happened at Fenway Park on Sunday night.
He had himself a game.
There were bloopers and missed pop flies in Joe West called Strike 3 on Aaron Judge.
Eric called a foul ball and it...
The catcher caught the ball.
Yeah.
It was a foul tip Strike 3.
The catcher caught it.
It was what happened at the end of the Yankees game where they called a phantom foul tip.
He was going to, after he caught the ball, was transferring it back to his hand to throw
to the pitcher and dropped it and they said it was a foul.
Not reviewable.
Judge hits it through on double, Stanton hits a bomb over the monster.
I love Joe West.
Game.
Sweep.
What a guy.
He just makes everything about Joe West.
He had some crazy Strike 3 calls.
Just when you think that you have forgotten about Joe West, he's like, uh-uh America.
Exactly.
I'm still Joe West.
I feel like Joe West lives in a world where the ESPN game cast and Square that shows where
the pitch is actually go.
I don't think he acknowledges that it's existence.
No.
Every game there's like Joe West call this a strike and the ball is just like four feet
out to the ball.
I admire his commitment to like find new ways to make things about Joe West.
He's actually an innovator.
For most people, they could pull that stunt off for maybe a year, maybe two and find ways
to make it about themselves.
Joe West has made an entire career out of it to the point where I think I'm going to
miss Joe West when he's gone.
In fact, I know I am because I don't know.
It's fun to laugh at Joe West doing Joe West stuff.
It's insane how he's able to keep himself like in the moment.
Everyone has to.
Joe West is 9-11.
Never forget.
His strike three call called looking is literally like he doesn't want to be there.
Yeah.
I don't know if you guys have seen it.
Yeah.
He just like stands up and does this.
You just never forget Joe West.
No emotion.
I'm going to listen to his country out when I go home today.
Oh, love it.
Love it.
He's got a song about going on a blind date and his girl being like, hey, quit looking
at the candy corn girl.
If you cheat on me, you'll be out at home.
Oh, yeah.
It's a great album.
Joe West.
All right.
Numbers.
Great guest coming on Wednesday, by the way.
He's 95 when we've been looking forward to for a very long time.
Haven't taped it yet.
So I can't say who.
I mean, oh, 97.
The Hague.
The Hague is in the Netherlands.
Where?
The Netherlands.
Netherlands.
And Eli Manning had to tell the fans to stop booing Mara 69.
Mr. Mara.
I feel like we had 69 last week.
It was Burroughs first career road win.
Whoa.
Also, there's a bunch of...
Whoa, that's crazy.
I guess because it got hurt.
There's a bunch of microscopic shrimp in New York City tap water, so it's technically
not kosher.
All right.
And then the cinnamon toast crunch.
Yeah.
I mean, that's OK.
Yeah.
It's part of the treatment process.
Brady probably did it.
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