Pardon My Take - NFL Week 4 Picks and Preview, TNF Needs More Flags + Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney In Studio

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Thursday Night Football doesn’t have enough flags as the Cowboys beat the Giants and everyone got hurt.(00:00:00-00:05:07:) The A’s last game in Oakland and fuck John Fisher forever(00:05:07-00:12...:06). NFL Week 4 Picks and Previews including the sad state of the Jaguars and Andy Dalton doing something no Carolina Panthers QB has ever done(00:12:06-01:35:24). Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney join the show to talk some puck, PFT and Big Cat investing in a ball hockey team, Connor McDavid, rumour boys and tons more(01:35:24-02:17:43). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(02:17:43-02:29:34).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, it is NFL Week 4 picks and preview. We have our good friends Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonnette in the studio as well for an awesome interview catching up with the boys. We're going to talk Thursday night football last game blast baseball game in Oakland today. And we're going to finish off with firefests of the week. Before we get to all of that. TD, Tuddy, take it to the house in for six, whatever you call it touchdown. One thing's for sure touchdowns matter more DraftKings Sportsbook an official sportsbook partner of the NFL On the ground in the air from the special teams or defense. We don't care how they score them
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Starting point is 00:02:32 That's code TAKE for new customers to get $200 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, September 27th and PFT. We have arrived at the shitty Thursday night football games where everyone gets injured and we have a ton of flags Yeah, it's a very end of the game It was like back to almost back-to-back plays where Micah Parsons out and then you had you had neighbors going out Yeah, that was bad. It was neighbors breaking ankles out there. It wasn't he played an awesome game. He's still very good
Starting point is 00:03:02 I think he's got a concussion. That's what they say I don't know what's wrong with Parsons, but the flags were bad the flags made this game unwatchable and credit to al Michaels He gets a lot of shit for if he doesn't celebrate a touchdown hard enough But when al Michaels is at his best now is when he's annoyed with the quality of football Yes, and he was so annoyed he gets into surly old man mode very early on in the first half He was just like this is awful. Yeah, this is terrible Kirk get me out of here. And I agreed with him. It was it was terrible. We had an awful taunting flag on CD Lam. Yep. For pointing at a defender as he ran to the end zone. Then I think he threw
Starting point is 00:03:35 the ball kind of in his direction like underhand after he scored. And the thought occurred to me for the first time when I saw that it's actually worse. It's, it's more emasculating for a defender to have a referee step in and throw a flag and be like, Hey, stop making fun of that guy. I'm going to throw a flag at you. That's worse than a guy pointing at you as you go into the end zone. It draws way more attention to it. And then it's like, Oh, you need this little, this little referee with this tiny little flag to throw it in the air and blow his whistle.
Starting point is 00:04:04 The ref is taunting more than CD lamb in this situation exactly. Yeah, let the boys taunt. Yes. I agree always let the boys taunt but it dawned on me that you know, we go through the Week one Thursday night opener football show so happy football is back week two Oh Thursday night, this is fun. And then he gets a three or four like oh, yeah, I forgot Thursday night football. fun and then he gets a three or four like oh yeah I forgot Thursday night football we're gonna watch it we're gonna we're gonna consume it every Thursday because it's the official start of the weekend sorry Hank but it is it's the start of the weekend in the fall but for the most part it's gonna be shitty product and you just hope a bunch of guys don't get injured which happened tonight We also had Michael Parsons giving digs and massage on the on the field like instantly. Yeah, I love that
Starting point is 00:04:50 He great teammate digs went down and then Mike over there started rubbing his foot We know that Mike is a foot guy. Mm-hmm That's on the record and then he moved up to the calf started giving a nice little massage if I were digs I would would you prefer to wait for? Start giving a nice little massage if I were digs I would would you prefer to wait for that doctor with a cowboy hat to get out there to give you the massage or are you? Okay with Mike. I think you want it right away if you're cramping which I assume that's what was happening Yeah, I would that would be really bad if it was Like an achilles and he was doing that. It's like I like a real injury and he's like I got this
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's a partial tear. Yeah, and Micah out there with his strong hands and just shreds it. I just assumed it was a cramp, which that is a bro move. Yeah, but you're like, let me get me get this cramp out real quick. You're right. The Thursday Night Football. It's it reminds me that old Donald Trump tweet about Coca Cola. And he's talking about Diet Coke. And he's he says the Coca Cola company is not happy with me. That's okay. I'll keep drinking that garbage. Yeah, that's that's how I feel about football. I'm gonna watch it. We also had so we're gonna get to our
Starting point is 00:05:50 picks and preview in a second. Last A's game in Oakland, which was awesome. Fuck John Fisher. It was cool to see the stadium completely packed. They won which I'm happy for even though we've lost a lot of money betting on the A's this year. A lot. A lot. I think we're down like 15 units. I think it's around 16 right now. That's bad, but it's even worse knowing that we almost picked the White Sox. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And how much money we would have made. It was down to those two teams. We just went door two instead of door one. And I didn't want to piss off Chicago. I like Chicago. It would have. I know. And then I talked to White Sox Davey. He's. And I didn't want to piss off Chicago. I like, I like it. What? Oh, I know. That's it. And then I talked to white socks. Davey's like, I don't know. I think they've got some real competitive players out there. And then I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I guess it won't do it to Chicago. We would have made so much. And white socks fans would have been happy. I know they, Jerry Reinsdorf is a piece of shit. We fucked up. But uh, yeah, it was really cool to see that scene. Like it was, it was a pack stadium. Their, their uniforms are a top baseball uniform. Um, they had a bunch of old legends out. Barry Zito sang the national anthem, which was cool. Uh, so again, fuck John Fisher forever. Oakland deserved better. Yeah. And we stand with the A's. And I also stand with the fan who I think it was last night, tried to steal one of the seats from the Coliseum Yeah, he stole an actual seat and then ran down the street with it and then I think a security called the cops Yeah, I'm chased down. Let him steal the seat. I guess there's a
Starting point is 00:07:17 Unaffiliated team may be playing there next year the Oakland Roots Because I saw someone stole a seat and the Oakland. Oh, it's soccer team the Oakland Roots, because I saw someone stole a seat in the Oakland, oh it's soccer team, the Oakland Roots tweeted and we're like, hey, just a heads up, we're playing there next year. If you could keep some of those seats, we'd really appreciate it. Keep some of them, but let the boys have some fun, steal a seat. That's always good. And then you know what I hope they do next year? I hope, you know how they used to have the Raiders play at the Coliseum?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah. I hope that the soccer field still has the baseball field. That would be awesome. Yeah, that'll be sick that on there Yeah, so we feel for the city Oakland. Then we also had golf Hank No one's actually mad about Scottie Shaffer yelling at Tom Kim, right? That was awesome Yeah, that was awesome people some people were mad that Tom Kim I think the next hole they hit a birdie putt and before Scotty Shepard putted Tom Kim and his partner just walked off. Oh, that's good. These international tournaments should have nothing but bad blood.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It should always be like close to fight which would not be a fight because they're golfers. Who are we winning? Dominating five. We are five. Oh sweep clean sweep. How'd Max do? One. Love it.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. Everyone won. How did Scotty do one who lost? No Internationals, oh, it's five. Oh five. Oh five. Oh, yeah. Fuck you world. We're up five. Oh five Oh, so is it over pretty much? What a domination I love more than anything I love it when the United States dominates tournaments that we don't give a fuck about yeah And the rest of the world cares deeply what about Cantley and Shafly one okay? What about more Colin Tagawa one what about Brian Harmon and Max Homa?
Starting point is 00:08:57 These are tomorrow's pairings. I think shit, but we're gonna win that yeah We're gonna win that how many how many wins do we have to get to win? I? Think it's like 13 and a half5 if it's like the Ryder. What about Henley and Scheffler? We haven't lost those or tomorrow's losing. No, that's today. One. What about Bradley and Clark?
Starting point is 00:09:15 One. What about Katelyn and Sam Burns? One. Fuck yeah, we won them all. Just checking to make sure. Max didn't play today, so to correct Hank. Well, he was a member of Team USA. He won. Oh, but okay. He really won five.
Starting point is 00:09:30 He won. Everybody went so Max is playing tomorrow. Yes. Okay. And he's going to win. Oh, he better win. Yeah. Max first to 15 and a half points wins the President's Cup. So yeah, we're gonna we could win this whole thing. No, we can't win it all tomorrow, but we're gonna, we'd be up 10 nothing. And then every day and then Friday, Saturday is singles, Sunday singles. So we can't win it on Saturday. We can be at 15. We really don't know the layout of this tournament. What what what is it was the
Starting point is 00:10:03 summer I feel a lot more locked in Yeah, I thought it was yeah, you're always locked in in the Sun. Why weren't you locked in on the golf today? I was busy Hank was locked in on golf today played well no the golf. Yeah All right, anything else before we get to pick some preview I mean, I just want to clarify Hank played well today, but we still beat him. Oh, fuck. Yeah. He still lost Pft and his partner. Yeah Evo no say Pft and my partner Pft
Starting point is 00:10:37 One there you go There you go By the way quick note, we're to do our pixie preview in a second and then we have Biz and Whit on the show. This week they're doing Surviving Barstool at the office. The interview is going to be our first ever black and white interview. So if you're watching it, it is art. We wanted to make sure that no one had a chance to be like, oh, this is a spoiler, this is
Starting point is 00:11:00 a spoiler. So enjoy it. We'll probably never do a black and white interview ever again. Well, I don't know. This shit might get us nominated for some cool prestigious award. It's true. Look really cool. Yeah, it is like Mad Men. It is really cool. And watch all the way through for the surprise at the end. Oh, yeah. It was a great special guest. Also, I forgot to bring this up. We were talking about Thursday night football. Big Cat. I don't know if you caught this. I don't know if you're at a TV with sound on in the first half.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Maybe it was a start of the second half. But Al Michaels told a story about Mike McCarthy that I'd never heard before. Okay, you know what Mike McCarthy's first job was? A mechanic. He was a toll booth operator. Perfect. He just and I think the face stuck on him. I think I think he's just got resting toll booth face now.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That's perfect. Just sitting there for hours. Yeah, just pissed off at the world. He's the perfect demeanor for a toll booth operator. No offense. Toll booth operators. Do they? Yeah, there are. Yeah, there are. There's usually one per at the plaza. Yeah, in case you get stuck in one and the arm doesn't go up. They come over. Yeah, they probably do. You think so? Yeah, I think I mean, it was back when I was in like high school or younger when minimum wage wasn't as high But I remember like minimum wage was eight dollars and they were like told with operators make like 18 bucks an hour
Starting point is 00:12:14 That's pretty good. So Whoa, here we go. Yeah 1585 Is that it says now between? 1250 and 25 95 bucks an hour shout out I bet you there's some toll booth operators listening to show. Yeah, what's up? And you can skim over see It's probably the easiest job to just pocket a little money at right? Yeah little falls through the cracks. Yeah Okay, let's get to ourselves picks and preview and then we have our first ever black and white interview with
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Starting point is 00:14:52 Okay, boys, week four, you just talked about Dan Campbell a second ago that that reminded me of his postgame thing where he was saying their head coach screwed up. Yeah, you know how he like dissociated he like split himself up. I actually was thinking the other day, that's going to be good for the Lions because now head coach Dan Campbell is going to be thinking about postgame Dan Campbell. Yeah. And he's not going to want to let postgame Dan Campbell down. Yeah, you can. It's almost like he's coaching himself up and he's an accountability guy. So he's like, I love Dan Campbell so much as a coach.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I can't screw up during the game. He's coaching like a version of his, it's like it. I love Dan Campbell so much as a coach. I can't screw up during the game He's coaching like a version of his it's like his son, but it's him and it's his best friend But it's also him kind of like an avatar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to by the way, did you see there was an update? To the Dan Campbell having to sell his house. So it was it's kind of a fucked up story his daughter's Classmate posted his address after they lost the 49ers NFC Championship game and said like, fuck you for going for it. That's messed up messed up how messed up high school I think. And then and then like the real issue was that Dan Campbell and his wife were still in San Francisco. And people started showing up to their house When his like his daughter was still was home that night after the loss and like honking and stuff So we need to get those, you know
Starting point is 00:16:11 Those uh, is it the Hells Angels the motorcycle gangs that show up whenever the Westboro Baptist Church is protesting David Wells the angels Yeah, have to have the people with a giant angel wing standing outside Dan Campbell's house protect that thing. I like that I like that. But yeah, it's fucked up. Dickhead move. That's what happens when you don't have a full picture of the history of the Lions when you're a high school student. Yeah. And all you've known for the last couple years is optimism and success. You don't want to go back. Also what happened when you don't understand analytics. True. Because like some of those were analytic play and also Dan Campbell's like he was going
Starting point is 00:16:43 off vibes. That's you. Actually, that guy didn't know ball because he probably didn't watch the Lions all season Also, Josh Reynolds should have made that catch. That's also true. Okay week four It is I still do treat week four as the end of the first quarter, even though we have 17 games 18 weeks now. I don't know why just will never get out of my head I'd meet you but I think it's cuz I grew up listening to Joe Gibbs You grew up listening to love Smith's and those were two big guys that were into splitting the the season up first quarter Yeah, four quarters. Yeah So week four, I can't believe we're already here week four
Starting point is 00:17:16 I feel like this is the week where after week four we have a big enough sample size to know like what's a fluke and What's not also after week four there's buys. Oh shit. Yeah. So that's always like fucked up like, Oh shit, we're in bye weeks. So just before we get to each game, this is Hank, you have been doing your hungry dogs for a few years now. It's been dominating this year. So underdogs of seven plus points to start the season are four and oh straight up. The first timedogs of seven plus points to start the season are 4-0 straight up the first time dogs of 7 plus or above 500 straight up through three weeks since 1956. Yeah so if you look at the first three weeks the biggest underdog of the week has won. The Patriots won in week one, there were eight point underdogs. The Raiders won against the Ravens week two, there were nine point underdogs the Raiders won against the Ravens week two They were nine point underdogs and then the commanders won in week three. There were seven and a half point underdogs It's the first time in 70 years that's happened. Is this just simply that we are over rating the AFC North?
Starting point is 00:18:16 That is a possibility that was Bengals Ravens Bengals. That is a possibility or maybe we're just over rating the Bengals Yeah, no that can't be it. They're good. No, their defense is good. No, because the Ravens lost too. So it's yeah, it's just an overrate. We put too much respect on the AFC Norse name. But you know what? I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's that division is football. Yeah, there is I respect that. There is definition of football. Yeah, and NFL under underdog six plus points are now 12 and one against the spread through three weeks. So that's crazy. If you're a betting man, which I think some people on this podcast are, biggest underdog this week,
Starting point is 00:18:49 you know who it is? Hank's Patriots again. Ooh. What is it, 10 and a half? Get right game. 10 right now. 10. OK, let's get into some games.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Good slate, good mix, Saints and Falcons to start. Excited for this game. I do think I like the Falcons in this game. I'll give you two reasons why I like the Falcons this game. One, I think the Falcons played like that game against the Chiefs. They were very, very close to winning and it felt like it felt like whatever happened at the end of the Eagles game, maybe the Falcons found a little bit of something and I think the Saints are banged up and are coming back down to earth so they're they have the centers out and
Starting point is 00:19:32 Caesar Ruiz their right guard is out and I just I like the Falcons I like the Falcons so the the Falcons also have I believe two linemen that are out this game and we did a bad job at the end of The Chiefs Falcons game hand up we were recording as the game was ending which is always it's tough for us because we're trying to actually talk about the other games while keeping an eye on the Sunday night game and For all the shit that we talked about Chiefs derangement syndrome after week one when Bengals fans were doing the screenshots of the still frame of the the pass interference That was actually pass interference. Yeah, the Falcons had a completely legitimate gripe against the Chiefs at the end of
Starting point is 00:20:09 Southern football for that pass interference in the correct. You got fucked on that. So I just want to make sure that we said that out loud. That's not but that's how they get you with the Chiefs derangement syndrome. Yeah, the teams that that complain too much about the they cry wolf about the other calls. And then when it really happens happens sometimes it slides into the radar Yeah, you had every right to complain about that Absolutely fan and also complain about your stretch run on Fort down
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yes Also complain about that now part of that is that Kirk is definitely limited with his mobility right now of course So they can kind of they know that he's not gonna keep it. He's not gonna bootleg out He's gonna stay relatively stationary, but that's kind of that's usually when Kirk Cousins is as best. Yeah, doesn't have to move too much. I just like them in this game because I think the the Saints are going to struggle with the offensive line issues and the Falcons offensively. Have you seen it's like the tired wired tired is Bijon Robinson making incredible cuts and juke moves wired is Bijon Robinson just blowing up people in the blocking game. He's such a good blocker.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Dude, I love running back pass protection. It's awesome. There's nothing better than seeing a running back just lay out alignment. Because they're always underdogs by nature in that setting. The guy who they're going to block is going to be bigger than them every single time and He had a couple There was one in the Eagles game where he blew someone up. I think he had one in the Falcons game So yeah, Bijan maybe blocker of the year I love should he get a vote for block of the year all pro at Lyman
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, yeah, they should they should give a vote or they should give a pro bowl position to just a blocking back Mm-hmm, just for third down Yeah, so I that's my new B. John Robinson. I love watching B. John Robinson I've added just watching him block people as well So this is also kind of a revenge game for the Falcons Because if you remember last year the way that the Saints Falcons game ended Yeah, that was when this the Falcons were getting beaten pretty badly I'd like to forget every Desmond Ritter game, but go ahead and and James Winston did the handoff at the end the the victory
Starting point is 00:22:10 Formation handoff that was that was for the VOTS which Jamis was being a good teammate and trying to get his boy touchdown But the Falcons were pissed off about that. I does I don't think That is a revenge game just because that was a Jamis going rogue Yeah, and he's not on the Saints anymore. I think they can use it Yeah I think they can use I think where he Morris might dial it up at least one time and in film session this week like look What they think about you But they might like I would imagine if you asked if you try to get a Kirk if you try to get Kirk
Starting point is 00:22:41 Cousins to buy in on the revenge factor. He'd be like no Jamis James is a, you know, he's a God fearing man, just like me. He stands up in front of the team. Hey guys, let's turn the other cheek. Yeah, right. Exactly. He's not a revenge type of guy. Yeah. But maybe the defenses, maybe the defenses.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yes, that's true. I also think just the way that Jamis has been a star and so funny, you can never stay mad at him. He's, you know, of course not. You never stay mad at him. Of course not. You just can't Okay, next up big game huge game Vikings at Packers Jordan. Love might be back Yeah, I believe he's gonna be back. I'm playing I'm intending on him being back. I think he's gonna be back He practiced there were rumors that he was like doing walkthroughs and shit last week. He was actually practicing this week
Starting point is 00:23:24 I think he's gonna be back. So I as much as I would love one more opportunity to bet against Malik Willis There were rumors that he was doing walkthroughs and shit last week. He was actually practicing this week. I think he's going to be back. So as much as I would love one more opportunity to bet against Malik Willis, it's been very financially productive for me. I don't think I'm going to get that this week. Now I think I'm 100% in on the Vikings. Okay, that's funny because I have the exact opposite thought. I think I'm in on them.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I don't think what they're doing is a fluke I think that their defense is really confusing and I think that Sam Darnold I don't know if Sam Darnold's like Great starting quarterback at large in the NFL, but in this offense with this head coach. I think he's really really good I don't think that there's anything flukey about I think for whatever reason it fits him And I think I'm in on the Vikings this year. So I'm not saying I'm not everything you said, I somewhat agree with like, it's not fluky in the fact that I think they're a good team. I just think this is like their absolute sell high spot. What's everyone's like, the Vikings are for real advice for real. I'm feeling
Starting point is 00:24:24 like this is a spot where Sam Darnold is going to lay an egg and everyone's like the Vikings are for real advice for real I I'm I'm feeling like this is a spot where Sam Donald's gonna lay an egg and everyone's gonna get off the scent and again I think they'll still be good. So I'm not gonna say if Sam Donald comes out and plays bad. I'm like, oh Vikings back to earth. They stink sounds like I'm just gonna say I expected he'll throw in a clunker once or in a while That might happen this week and that's actually where the Vikings want to be because they want everyone off the set. It sounds like you're being a little bit anti-samatic you're being anti-samite anti-samite I am pro-samite okay I don't know what I've seen from him is really good and also it's like strength for strength in this game so the the Packers have a really good run game and the Vikings I think have the best run defense and they've gone up against some pretty good running teams too. Well the Packers have also have the best run defense and they've gone up against some pretty good running teams, too
Starting point is 00:25:05 Well, the Packers have also have a good run game because they had to run That's really quillis. So I don't if Jordan loves back. I think the Packers are gonna win this game and I might even take it if they're not back. I just I maybe I'm wrong Maybe Vikings keep just rolling but I feel like this is one of these three No teams gonna have to lose this to get right get Right weak for for the favorites. I think you think so might be see I'm also everyone's like all of them underdogs underdogs underdogs, right? I've also not had a correct read on the Packers all season. Yeah, I think so keep that in the back of your head I like the Packers in this game. I just
Starting point is 00:25:41 Again, I think the Vikings are probably a playoff team But they do better work when everyone doesn't take them fully fully for serious serious. So if they win this game, like it's a visualization game, they win this game, they're for no, they just beat the Packers, maybe even throw in the Lions losing on Monday night football. And so it's now for no, and everyone else is two and two in the NFC North. You're like, holy shit, they got a two game lead. I don't know. I just
Starting point is 00:26:04 don't see it. I also got that wrong. They're the second best against the rush in the NFL, but still very good. Yeah, I just think the Packers will obviously be very different if Malik Willis is If Jordan Love is back, they're not gonna run the same way. It would be good for your personal discourse if the Vikings happen to win and then you could say like go back to Malik Willis for the Packers. Oh, are you kidding me? That's gonna to be all I'm going to talk about. Yeah. No, if Jordan Love plays and loses, I'm going to be a real fucking piece of shit online, because that's all I got.
Starting point is 00:26:33 All right. You know what? Let's talk about it. I think it's a Rams-Bears. I think the Bears are going to win this game. Same. If I'm following my model that I just talked about. I think it's also it's gross
Starting point is 00:26:45 What's your name? It's a get-right game get right get right the very week the game after the kitchen sink is always tough Because you don't have anything left to do anymore. You have nothing left. You know leftovers. So there also is a stat behind that teams coming off a for kitchen sink just like Kitchen sink is just cleaning stuff. No, it's a phrase though throw everything. No, I know yeah, but like there's no left It's just you got the garbage disposal. This is garbage disposal games for the row You're throwing a bunch of like Windex at teams when you throw the kitchen sink at them So wait when you throw the kitchen sink are you saying is it like we're going to we don't have anything left to eat
Starting point is 00:27:23 So we're gonna take everything that's the dirty stuff that's in the kitchen sink and scrape it off And that's what we're gonna have I think it's everything just bought the kitchen sink out of the socket and throw that okay So you have no food left? The no the phrase is everything but the kitchen sink yeah, yeah, so you're just leaving just the kitchen sink You're packing up everything, but the kitchen sink Okay, so you still do have a kitchen sink. You have a kitchen sink to piss in. Yeah. You have to you have to be somewhere. The Rams past defense is really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Their entire defense is not great. They give up the most yards per play. So I think that this could Hank might be right about this one. I feel is this going to be a Caleb coming out party? I mean, he threw for 363 yards last week. I think he's gonna I think he's already out. You think he's out? Yeah, he's out. Okay. I think this but if he goes if he goes dummy this game, I think he's out. Then I think that's the coming out party. Also, I said the Bears were gonna win
Starting point is 00:28:17 this game for Hank said the gate bears are gonna win this game. That's fact. That's true. But credit to Hank. He did. And if I lose this game, I'm gonna blame you. Yeah, that's fine Is your boy Keenan Allen gonna play this week? I believe he is and I also believe they're finally gonna make the right call and have Roshan Johnson start so Little teaser. He's probably be my TD parlay. I think Roshan is I mean you could see he's run he's run a lot harder than then Deandre Swift who I
Starting point is 00:28:44 don't want to say Deandre Swift stinks because the offensive line is not great but Deandre Swift might fucking stink. Yes. Again I'm a Bears guy because what I'm about to say is I know that the clip there was a viral clip that went out on social media that was like someone breaking down film of Deandre Swift in slow motion running into his players and defenders. Those clips are bullshit. Agreed. When it's slow motion and it's like you have no time to think he he it's a split second decision. He went right and said when he should have went left and you cherry pick those and put them in slow motion. Everything looks
Starting point is 00:29:21 bad counterpoint. That's kind of your job is running back. Here's my like if you but I'm saying you cherry pick the bad ones and compile them together, it's going to look worse. Right. Like there's a million of those every game. Yeah. Even every running back doesn't get it right. Yeah. Film. The film community online has gotten a little away from itself where there are people I follow, who who I trust who will show good and bad But there's also an entire group of film community that will like just highlight one play and be like what is this team doing?
Starting point is 00:29:53 This guy's ass guy stinks. Look at how bad they are I think you can get paid off Twitter now and they just know yeah, yeah They'll just put up those bad clips and it's just like okay Can you like one we don't know what everyone's that's the other part is with the film I I trust some people but I also think there's a lot of people who think they're film experts and They you don't know what everyone's assignment is on every single play and they just kind of guess and they try to highlight one Bad block or one bad run this guy stinks with running backs to where they have the still shots of where there's a hole Sometimes the hole is not even there by the time the running back gets correct
Starting point is 00:30:29 Just if you find a screenshot and there's open space It's rushing disinformation is what it is correct and so we got to be on high alert for it. What are you gonna say? I was just gonna say that like Deandre Swift has been a lot of Eagles talk. Oh You want him back? No. How much better? The Eagles offensive line is? Yes. Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That's a no-brainer. And how much better Saquon Barkley is. Than DeAndre Swift? I like that. Because they were like, DeAndre Swift had these same, like these same running lanes as Saquon Barkley is getting this year, and we're seeing the difference
Starting point is 00:31:05 Oh that makes me feel so much better because I saw someone posted the other day They're like, we don't I don't think Deandre Swift's the best player ever But maybe it's not all Deandre Swift and it was like Deandre Swift yards per carry It was like 5.0 4.8 4.7 5.2 and then this year it's like 1.6, but that makes sense He's not He was a system running back. Mm-hmm. He had a great offensive line. So like a nice guy, by the way I'm not trying to bash him I would I would count this as a Caleb coming out party because the Bears offense is last right now in DVOA So if he has a nerd stat cool if he has has a good game fucking the most yards since Brian Horan
Starting point is 00:31:46 2016 so 363 yards and if we're going off the trend of him doubling his previous yardage, which has happened every game this year He will have 626 yards passing this week or more it would be a record. Love it. He's already out. I don't need nerd stats No, he's already out. He's been out. He's been out. I'm sorry. He has been out Yeah, and the Rams are still Very injured, but I don't know if they win this game. There's I guess I should start getting nervous about my pinky Yeah, I mean the Rams are put together with like duct tape and bubblegum right now Yeah, but their coach is so good and their quarterbacks so good if you look at coach first coach in this game Oh, yeah, one team has a whole big advantage. I was thinking about this recently about your pinky team remember
Starting point is 00:32:32 Last year when or before the year you were like hyping up Matt Stafford to an MVP because you could say I did this year That's what I'm saying. Yeah, no, it's stupid. Yeah Yeah, this whole thought process of how like the Rams could go on a run Matthew Stafford so good Yeah, this is gonna. I could yeah, you just went full 180 in two weeks. Yeah, everyone's gonna like I'm gonna get all this credit for Saying that Matthew Stafford predicting Matthew Stafford's MVP season when I say all this credit like literally no give me any credit What did it cost my pinky? Yeah? Yeah I mean the Bears defense is good enough where I think that they'll be able to take advantage of having a bunch of starters out
Starting point is 00:33:10 On the Rams offense. Yeah, the question is is the defense on the Rams gonna be as bad because they they're last Yeah, it's allowed 425 yards a game. No other team gives up more than 400 yards a game Yeah, so they're last by a big margin That also is that game against the Cardinals where they just got torched coming up right? You know the the We're at that weird spot where three games is the sample size so it's I start trusting stats But I you're also say if you have one bad game, then you could be the worst and everything. Yeah. All right Steelers are cults. I Have a question. This might sound crazy
Starting point is 00:33:47 Because I'm not the biggest Anthony Richardson fan, but is Anthony Richardson potentially better than or can he play better than Kirk Cousins first game after an Achilles injury, Brookier, Bo Nix, and a significantly hurt Justin Herbert without Rashawn Slater and Joe alt. I think he can. So maybe they he can have better success against the Steelers defense in the first three teams they played. I'm not saying the Steelers defense isn't good. Yeah, I have not played a gauntlet of quarterback. The Steelers defense is really, really good.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It is but they've also not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks. and could Anthony Richardson Maybe play better than those three things I listed and win this game I think he could but also the Steelers they have a formula and they're just gonna they're gonna bleed you out on offense They're gonna run the ball. They're not gonna turn the ball over and then their defense is gonna suffocate you Yeah, I feel like the Steelers they're gonna be a very they're gonna be one of those teams that people are like How is their record so good this year is because they I love the fact that they just know who they are and they don't Give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah big time big time also Justin Fields playing pretty well
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yes, he is and Mike Tomlin has refused to name a starter I think he's just gonna do we're gonna ride with Justin until until the wheels fall off and then we'll put russin Why why do they need? Why do they cater to Russ like this? He hasn't done anything. I don't understand Like we watched him he was he's not good anymore I think Russ kind of needs to be catered to yeah They need to bring in they need to basically do bar rescue the Steelers if this quarter if this becomes a quarterback controversy in any way or Messes with Justin Fields confidence. They should do bar rescue Sean Payton and he just comes in and he just shits on Sean Ross
Starting point is 00:35:31 He's like, all right. I've done my job amount That would be fun Also Mike Tomlin should tell his medical staff to like secretly treat Russ Wilson incorrectly like give him heat when he needs ice Yeah, give him ice we need heat. So he's still got that nagging little injury in his calf I don't think you have to be secret about it. You can just tell him this is a new formula to get back on the field. Yeah, listen, this is a it's actually inspired by the blockchain. So it's next level shit. So we're doing like crypto healing on you. Yeah. And just wait, it's going to work really well. And then Russell be like, yes, okay, that sounds like it's preparing me for excellence. Yes. And then just keep Justin out there. Is this is Steelers Colts one of those weird games I somehow remember? Maybe it's because of the playoff game in the in Rothless burger
Starting point is 00:36:09 tackle. Or no, it was Peyton Manning tackle of sorry, no, it's been Rothless burger tackle of Bob Sanders. That's right. That's right. Mike Vanderjack missed the field goal. Yeah, he got he got it. Was it I don't think it was Bob Sanders. Remember, it was the story was that the guy got stabbed the night before. Oh, yeah, it wasn't Bob Sanders. Yeah. Yeah, it was somebody else But I don't know why I always like I can just remember a lot of Steelers Colts games and they have never Once played in Pittsburgh. Well, I think was that when Harbaugh was on the Colts and they lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game Maybe but I'm saying in like the last 20 years. They've only played in in Indy in my mind Yeah, I don't again. This is not a real stat, but in my mind. They've only played in Indy
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's a sneaky good uniform matchup. It is it is it's very good But yeah, I feel like they play every year and they play always in Indy Yeah, that that might be one of those you know how Notre Dame will play in Neutral sites, but they're not neutral because they're Notre Dame. They're like, Oh, we'll go play a game in Texas. Yeah, that's kind of like the Steelers game in India every year. Yeah, because it's a drive and Steelers fans travel anyway. Yeah. We have a giveaway too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:16 OK, so what do we want to do for the Colts? I think we go. Give away. Hold on. Let's get the let's get the who got sacked tackled. Oh, if they have that jersey. Yeah, which is kind of sad. But he survived. No, no, I know if they have the jersey because they lost the game. Okay. And that was like, if he didn't get a beating it stab, maybe he would have been okay. Let's see. That was such a crazy play. Who did you say who did roth been Rothsberger tackle? No. Yeah, who'd been?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Harper Jerome bettis fumble Harper Harper if you have a Harper Colts Jersey, let us know and we will give you Two free tickets to the Colts Steelers game in Indy this weekend. It's Nick Harper Nick Harper Nick Harper Do we have a do have backup plan. It's Nick Harper. Nick Harper. Nick Harper. Do we have a backup plan if nobody has Nick Harper? Bryce Harper. Okay. If you have a Colts Bryce Harper jersey. Yep. I want to go to the game. And I tell you what, if we don't get any people that have the Nick Harper or Bryce Harper Colts jersey by like, I don't know, you want to say 2 p.m.? Yeah. If there's a Steelers-Colts couple.
Starting point is 00:38:28 A good custom or a good custom Ben Roeffersberger jersey. Yeah. They want to travel with. Oh, no, we don't want to give these tickets to the Steelers fans. Yeah, we don't want to give them a home advantage. Yeah, I might get my season tickets taken away by Mr. Ursa. How about we do a couple? We'll do the couple if there's a Colts and Steelers fan couple. But Nick Harper and Bryce Harper's Colts
Starting point is 00:38:50 jerseys take priority. How would you even make up Bryce? Would you do the would it be a Colts jersey with like the the lettering style of the Phillies? It'd be Harper 34. Yeah but the and also the the lettering know that he's not 34 34 What is he now? She has three number three? I thought you were trying to say it. Okay continue I thought you were doing a bit there what no that like he's and yeah, it was a bit Well, I only recognize him when he wore number 30. Yes the national When he brought us to World Series got him ha fuck you max you got got bitch Remember that when he left and I was a great
Starting point is 00:39:24 Ha fuck you max you got got bitch remember that when he left and I was a great he got At the end of this postseason yeah, I'm gonna bet on the Phillies we will uh Okay next up Memes II Broncos Jets Now here's a question watch you not a question Does that for you? Nathaniel Hackett in his career is one and oh, in revenge games against the Broncos, average margin of victory 10.0. Hmm. That's a nice knee. That's pretty crazy, right? That
Starting point is 00:39:56 is crazy. This is a double revenge game. Yeah, because we got Zack, right? Zack Wilson. Well, we have. Oh, yeah. And Aaron Rodgers didn't get to avenge his boy, but he said he didn't care about it No, he cares. He said it's He said that a lot of people say things they regret and Aaron Rodgers definitely or not not they regret What was the exact quote? I wrote it down That's old news we've all said things we'd like to take back so kind of regret is this when Zack Wilson makes Aaron Rodgers life hell Things we'd like to take back so kind of regret is this when Zach Wilson makes Aaron Rodgers life hell No, I think Sean Payne should make Zach Wilson a captain for this game agreed and
Starting point is 00:40:31 Sean Payne's a kind of coach that would do that I bet you you're right and I bet you he somehow gets into the game on like some Weird play like gadget. Yeah, like a Philly special Bronco special. They just try to they just try to force him in Yeah, it'd be very funny if you got into the game and tried to run a Philly special and just got blown up Yeah, I didn't not meme style, but like a defender. I didn't love Bonix saying that he is Excited to meet Aaron Rodgers. I guess you can say it but that is kind of weird still He said it's kind of surreal really looking for him to
Starting point is 00:41:05 Forward to meeting him for the first time. Yeah, I don't like that. You're about to play him Yeah, I don't like that at all. And you also are you're going up against a revenge pot again Do I have to read this out again? They know how kids want to know all time in revenge games against the Broncos 10.0 average margin of victory memes, how do you feel about Oluf a Shana I Love him and Aaron Rodgers said he reminds him of the brick shot first. That's a good comparison Memes, how do you feel about Olufoshanu? I love him. And Aaron Rodgers said he reminds him of Debrickasha Ferguson. That's a good comparison.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's a phenomenal comparison. That is a phenomenal. Morgan Moses, he's officially out? Yeah, about two to four weeks. It was a MCL sprain. Did he go out leaning on his staff? That's a good one. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Debrickasha Ferguson doesn't get enough credit for having the coolest name ever Agreed he's just an absolute stud. Yeah, he knows more credit We need to remember how cool to brick ashore Ferguson's name is to brick ashore is an awesome first name So when you when you matched up with Ferguson, it's like Vince McMahon meme in the chair just exploding at the end Yeah, the Ferguson sets it off. Yeah, we have to do a review of that doc Do we yeah, I'm just interested to watch it because Vince McMahon Came out and said that it was all fake news before the doc came out which means I really want to watch it now Yeah, I watched the first two episodes last night. It's pretty fucking crazy. Yeah, he's he's done a lot of crazy fucked up things He's Vince McMahon. Yeah, it's like that governor from North Carolina Carolina that was like, I don't know what's about to come out, but it's all going to be lies.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah, I won't. Yeah, I won't spoil it. But they started like the first episode was basically saying they interviewed all these all the A-list WWE people for a documentary. And then after doing a ton of the interviews, all of the allegations and the report in the Wall Street Journal stuff came out So all the interviews with Vince were done before that and then it starts with this interview being like alright I'll tell you know, I'm talking about me. I'll tell you guys the good stuff Please like I should tell you the real stories, but I can't like I don't want you to know the real me Yeah, and I was like, yeah In the dark side of the ring If people haven't watched that it's phenomenal. not every single episodes about Vince it's about all wrestling
Starting point is 00:43:07 But yeah wrestling is crazy and there's crazy fucked up stories behind it Can we get somebody to look up this stat the teams that stay at the Greenbrier when they're staying on the East Coast What is their record after staying at that specific place? Sean Payton just loves the Greenbrier. I think it might be one of those things that Bill Parcells taught him. Yeah. This is the hotel, and then he's just grown up as a head coach, always going back to the Greenbrier. He's got a points card there.
Starting point is 00:43:32 He loves that place. I think he's got a points card at the Greenbrier, but that's where they chose to stay. Harbaugh, for some reason, chose to stay in Charlotte. He did not choose to stay at the Greenbrier. Mistake. Teams this year are 0 and one staying in Charlotte Yeah, except for the Panthers who won a game. No, but they didn't stay in Charlotte that day. They didn't know they were in Las Vegas Okay, there you go. Yeah, no team. Yeah, the no team is no
Starting point is 00:43:55 Teams have won in staying in Charlotte because the Panthers lost Okay. Yeah, we got it. We'll fine-tune that I'm saying the Greenbriars specifically I want to know what the what the record is if there's that stat available out there I would like I want to know if there's any magic in those hills. I would like to as well Uh, I know we don't do football guy of the week anymore, but Alex Singleton wins football guy of the week Did you guys see this story? He? Tore his ACL against the box He's a linebacker for the Broncos then went on to have he did it in the first quarter went on to have 10 tackles after the game was like hey I'm a little sore and they looked at
Starting point is 00:44:29 it like yeah dude you got a torn ACL respect it's crazy massive respect I'm a little sore it also makes me question everyone that has an ACL injury Phil Rivers he played in the championship game yeah I think we're ACL truthers I think ACL is yeah someone told it's basically like when you get told as a kid, like don't go swimming after eating tuna fish or like don't do this, you know, something that scares you if you if you make a funny face and get hit in the back, you'll be stuck in that face. Don't take a shower during a thunderstorm, you'll get electrocuted. Don't stand too close to the microwave. It'll be cancer pop rocks and and and soda
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, those type of things. Maybe that's just all an ACL is like don't tear your ACL. You'll be out for nine months No, how is that true? You could still play on it It might be a trick that football coaches get where they tell players you have a torn ACL and if you choose to play through It then you know that you're tough. Yeah. Yeah, maybe maybe an ACL isn't that bad? Also, I just wanted to say Patrick Strattan deserves a lot of credit for being a fucking stud I know there was a couple PI calls in the Steelers game But he has gone up against DK Metcalf week one Mike Evans, right? Yeah, three receptions 29 yards George Pickens two receptions 29 yards Mike Evans two reception 17 yards
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, he's fucking awesome. Very good. And he makes everything else work when you have a guy like that who can just eliminate someone Okay, next up so Garrett Wilson not not his day. We can continue the narrative of Aaron right does Aaron Rogers hate Garrett Wilson I love that that happens whenever one receiver isn't playing well with Aaron Rogers. It's because he hates him Yeah, he won't talk to him. It's also funny because what did you think was gonna happen he got Alan Lazard on the team he's gonna throw it to him bad vibes he likes him bad vibes from Garrett Wilson Eagles at box max max would you say max please rank the top five players on the Eagles when fully healthy Three of them will not be playing in this game. Oh, yeah, you got to ruin it
Starting point is 00:46:33 I wanted you to rank them and then we can figure out where they are But yes, three of them will not be playing this game How would you rank the top five players Lane Johnson won Lane Johnson AJ Brown Cooper de Jean? Read blank Carter Jalen hurts Devante Smith, okay, so three of the top five. Yeah are not playing in this game. That's a problem That's a big problem. Is this a get-right game for Bryce Huff? Now he sucks. I'm done with him We told you last week going to the Bucks game that the Bucks allow people to get to
Starting point is 00:47:03 We told you last week going to the Bucs game that the Bucs allow people to get to Baker Mayfield faster than any other quarterback gets gotten to like the time after snap People are getting to Baker and I think they sacked him seven times last week This might be the get-right game for Bryce. No, it'll just be Jalen Carter eating again. Okay, I hate Bryce off He sucks. That's sad. That's sad that is so fast. Sorry Do you think you're gonna win this game? Honestly it makes no sense that they're two point that they're two point favorites in this game explain that to me I Really can't that I don't make reason I think that they might cuz that may that line makes zero sense the only thing I can think of is
Starting point is 00:47:42 The Bucks just might we might have gotten way too ahead of ourselves with the Bucs You know, I know the win against the Lions was big but the Bucs got dominated in that game On the stat sheet they won the game Maybe and then they got no they lost to a bone to Broncos team. The Eagles are Two and one and oh by the way, they're dominating on the stat sheet the other way like they dominated the Saints So maybe the Eagles are good. I need to I need to I need to rewind I you know You say quite I know I knew you said you cuz you you know why I you're obsessed with Jalen Carter I am obsessed with you. Yeah, you got blinded by Jalen Carter that was that
Starting point is 00:48:23 Eagles fans are gonna be pissed at me of who's who's out I? Think Jalen Carter Now you know now Devante. I'll take Jalen Carter over Devante fuck then that no one wants to hear me Say the three out of the top six all right fine. I'll take Joe I'll take Jalen Carter. Okay. No he's six well max tried to trade away Jalen hurts on Wednesday show that's true. I would I would take that trade. Yes. I know that makes me so happy. Yeah, I mean That's just that's just math. I've just been going through the list this week like I'm a real sicko I get one sniff of victory and I start to think to myself who would I take a trade for?
Starting point is 00:48:59 Pat I'd trade him for Patrick my homes. I would I don't know if I would PFT I don't know if you would petrol was kind of been bad. I think I think I'd trade them for Patrick Mahomes. I would. I don't know if I would. PFT, I don't know if you would. Patrick Mahomes has kind of been bad. I think I would trade, I think I would trade Jaden Daniels for Patrick Mahomes. And the other trade that I would consider for the rights to arch manning and every future manning throughout American history.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Get the board line. So then I get like 100 years of sustained success. I like that a lot. that no deal get the whole board line um yeah I I think the Eagles might win because it makes no sense but they have I think that they might win I think they might win their offense pair it's it's John Dotson Paris Campbell Johnny Wilson that's your receiving room on Sunday Britain Covey I are towards shoulder. Someone look up is Vita Bay still out
Starting point is 00:49:51 That might be a way to just pound the rock. I Guess but then you're missing your top lineman. You're you're yeah But it makes no sense. So I'm gonna take that's exactly exactly. It makes no sense on the road Why are they two-point favorites? I with their entire offense out? I love the the battle of the stupid coaching styles going at one another So you've got you got Todd Bowles who is the most conservative coach in the NFL when it comes to fourth downs and going for it And then you've got Nick Sirianni who is just Stupidly reckless sometimes with going for it. I would just say stupid stupid
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, but it but it's stupid at least his stupidity is consistent consistently inconsistent Vita ve return to practice yesterday It makes no sense Because he is stupidly he does make no rhyme or reason yeah All right, I like the Eagles I think we talked our way through it. I like the Eagles specifically because Vegas knows something. No, because Vegas knows something. Yeah. I, I, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. The only sense I can think of is like I said, if you look at, uh, the way the bucks have won, like they got doubled up in yard and yards per play and yards is not indicative of everything, but there are certain box,
Starting point is 00:51:07 like a 1512 game that you want against the Saints. If you looked at the box where you're like, Oh, that was a really close game. The Eagles were able to move the ball. The Saints weren't like, that's a fact. Same with the Bucks and the Lions. The Bucks beat the Lions. If you watch that game, the Lions were able to move the ball. They just couldn't get in the end zone, which is part of the game. But yeah, I think we take the Eagles as a team. Hank's been saying get right for the favorites. Okay, next up Bengals and Panthers. This is finally a do or die game. Yeah, I would say so. I would say if the if the Bengals lose this one, their season's cooked. Starting on for be very, very tough if not impossible to come back from.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And if you look at the schedule, which is one of the easiest in the NFL, in theory for the Bangles moving forward, if you lose the game against the Panthers, then you can't count anything as a win. I agree. Did you know that Andy Dalton won the FedEx Air and Ground Player of the Week? I think Jayden Daniels won a bunch of awards too, but did you know that was the first time in Panthers history a player won the FedEx
Starting point is 00:52:11 air and ground player of the week? So FedEx wasn't a sponsor when Cam Newton? I think they were. I think the award's been around for like two decades. So in his MVP season? I don't think he ever had a week where he won it. That's strange. Yeah, this is the first time any Panthers quarterback has earned this honor in the 22 year history of the award. That's very strange
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yes, no Cam Newton somehow. No Jake DeLome, but yeah, that's crazy Well, I I think Andy Dalton is just still I think he's just still good I think he's a perfectly fine quarterback and this is a revenge game too. It is a revenge game Without Adam Thielen and he got he got the surprise factor I think maybe this is this is maybe the game that Bengals they have to win one. Yeah Cuz they have to win one is their offense is still very good. Yeah, do you know someone? I saw this online someone was treating about this that they did the playoff predictors Calculator thing and there is a world
Starting point is 00:53:06 Where the Bengals win out 14 and three and miss the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Because I want to win like 15. Yeah. So we did it. It has the it has the Steelers is 14 two and one winning the NFC air sea north it has the chargers is 14 two and one it has the chief says 13 two and two two ties it has the Jaguars at the four seed being 14 and three love that the Texas at 14 and three the Dolphins at 14 and three the Bills at 14 and three yeah let's let's I mean that would be chaos if there's if there's a team out there with two tires I love how I mean that guy had to just sit there forever Hitting just every single iteration to try to find the formula listen as a team that that oftentimes find
Starting point is 00:53:54 Finds himself at about four and eight after twelve games. I'm very experienced with manipulating the playoff predictor It's it's you can spend a half hour on there and get any result that you want Would that be the craziest sports story like ever if they won 14 in a row and still didn't make the playoffs? Yeah probably. I'm rooting for it now. So yeah so Adam Thielen out is gonna be I think a pretty big deal. Yes. Because Andy Dalton loves him. He's still good. Adam Thielen is still an effective wide receiver. Yes. When he has an actual quarterback that's throwing the ball to him. So yeah, I do like
Starting point is 00:54:26 I like the Bengals in this one. My question for for Bengals fans out there, I think that you agree with me on this. Why is chase Brown not getting the ball more? Why do they keep Why do they keep having Zach Moss be their number one guy because chase Brown is so much more dynamic. I agree than Zach Mosses. I agree. Doesn't make any sense. I was cheering so agree. Than Zach Moss is. I agree. It doesn't make any sense. I was cheering so loud to put Zach Moss back in the game
Starting point is 00:54:48 when I was at the game on Monday night. Cause he's not bad, he's not a bad running back, but Chase Brown is so much better. Yes, I'd agree. I'd agree. It doesn't make sense. Maybe this is just an off Bengals year. Cause you know, Zach Taylor has only finished fourth
Starting point is 00:55:03 or first in the FC North. Yeah, so this might be number four. It just feasts are famine. His first year obviously was before Borough. So it was two and 14. How sick would it be if Joe Borough got rid of the frosted tips before this game, but he did it by dying his hair red. So we have a ginger off. Yeah, that'd be nice. Just mock him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Ginger off. Yeah, that'd be nice. Just mock them. Yeah Okay, I think this is the last early slate and then we have a few late slates Jaguars at Texans The Jaguars are in trouble. We have some Doug Peterson quotes. Mm-hmm I'll read you the first one He said listen, the speeches are done. The speeches are are over we don't need any more rah rah stuff it's just time to go play football fix the mistakes do everything we can to play our best football this weekend isn't that kind of a speech yeah that kind of a rah rah yeah the speeches are over no more speeches it's on you man yeah no more rah rah is rah rah yeah like we got to
Starting point is 00:56:01 just play yeah it might be time for players only meeting in Jacksonville Yes, well everything is on the table. He said That's a bad sign also, he said that We've had great conversations before and after football games when talking about his relationship with shod Khan There's no way they've had great conversations after these football now I'm thinking through all their losses this year and I don't think a single one would have a positive. Maybe the week one being like, man, we're real close to that Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Good first half. Yeah. Good first half. There's just no way that he's there's no way they're having great conversations. So Hank was he was all over the bill Belichick to Jacksonville. Did you get that from Albert Breer by any chance?
Starting point is 00:56:42 No, it was just you. Brain. Just you. Well, now Albert Breer's talking about it, too. Albert Brear got it from Hank. Got it from Hank. Come on. So Albert, please credit your sources.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Please. I'm starting to think that there might be some truth to it. It would look weird. Don't get me wrong. That might be the one uniform that I think Bill Belichick would look the weirdest wearing in terms of those colors, the jaguar head on his polo shirt I don't I can't visualize it
Starting point is 00:57:07 But then again, I think when we talked about the weirdest uniforms Tom Brady could wear I think the Bucks were right up there at the top. Yeah, like I can't picture it So Hank might you might be on to something and I think that's what you want to root for Hank Cowboys would be the best. Yeah Cowboys, but if you're just for the just for the takes it's bigger in Dallas. Yeah outside of the Cowboys though, like you don't it's gonna be weird for you to see Belichick coaching another team just like it was weird for Tom Brady and like PFT said you almost wanted to be the most random doesn't feel almost real if he's the Jaguars head coach. Yeah. Yeah. I think anywhere not in the AFC East is fine though.
Starting point is 00:57:45 What about the Giants? Yeah, no. Cause that could be open. Yeah, I could see him. And he loves the Marist. I could see him. He's got a couple rings there. I know he's never put on a Giants pillow before,
Starting point is 00:57:57 but I could see it. Oh, I could have. I could visualize it. You could? We should do a Photoshop. I'm visualizing it. It feels a little grainy to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He looks good. He looks younger. He looks skinny. Yeah. He looks skinny. I'm visualizing it. It feels a little grainy to me. Yeah, he looks good. He looks skinny. Yeah. Good skinny. I hate that. So I'm rooting for that. Just just because that that I blindsided you with that one. Yeah. Which shouldn't make too much sense. Yeah. Yeah. Also, here's another Doug Peterson quote. The confidence is high. Again, no chance. There's no way the confidence is high with the Jaguars right now. What's the best team they've ever assembled? I do feel that we have to just focus in on us internally as keep and keep things nice and tight. So they're doing the nice and tight, you know, we got to be the guys in this locker room, eliminate the mistakes that are happening and try to play your best football. Didn't the Jaguars beat the Texans in Houston last year? I know they beat them one time.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yeah, I feel like that was one of those ones where the Jaguars kind of owned the Texans for a while. Because the Jaguars, they were very, very good at the beginning of last year. Yes, that's right. I like I like the Texans in this game because I part of me wants to try to figure out how can I time the Jaguars correctly, figure this out? I think maybe I can't and they just stink. I might try to time the Jaguars on this. Okay, go for it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I might try to time, is it seven points? It is seven, I believe, yes. I might try to time it. Good luck. Good luck, buddy. I might this is a bad bad idea But I think I'm gonna do it. Okay time them. I'm gonna time time them Is this the week you don't do it this week? You could say you could you could say you're gonna time no this is a way to time this no This is the week once I'm not gonna delay my timing of them what this is the week
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's an it's a divisional matchup and guess what They pay these guys on the Jaguars to play for facts. That's guys are professional football players. I just looked over memes was doing like a meathead. Nod, like nice squat bro. He's just going like this. Yeah, memes knows memes knows. Listen, no more time for rah rah speeches. Time for speeches is over. Your head coach isn't gonna talk to you anymore. Okay, it's on you guys. Men men You want to be men go out there and prove it? Yeah prove to me that your men boys cuz I'm not gonna say anything boys And we're man and we're not gonna do rah-rahs no rah-rahs and no speeches. Let's go out there and get them. Yeah Stay tight. It's all the guys in this locker room, but we're not doing speed. Yeah, I love that
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, I think the Texan win this game, but we're gonna tell you know what I'll time with you. Let's time it I'm not saying the Jaguars are gonna win. No cover cover I'm giving a speech to them to cover. Yeah, let's time it. No, let's go out there and cover There's no time better than today to time the Jaguars. Mm-hmm Because they don't play today so we couldn't actually lose today. That's true. Um Patriots the 49ers lose today that's true um Patriots the 49ers this is like a they're gonna check into the game one time and that was Patriots 49 watching if you're watching red zone you're watching the the primetime 4 o'clock Fox game or CBS
Starting point is 01:01:01 whatever it is they'll cut to this game maybe once, maybe twice. It'll probably be gross. Get right game for the favorites. Yeah. Not a lot of confidence. So I have an interesting nugget here that we can talk about. You want to hear a nugget? Yeah. All right. So stop me if you've heard this before, but Kyle Shanann had a lead and then he refused to run the ball and he passed too much and then lost the game. That happened last week. The Patriots are not, I wouldn't say that they're an aggressive pass-happy offense. They're not built to to blow you out by taking shots down
Starting point is 01:01:40 field. Would that be fair to say Hank up they some for some reason did that last week especially at the start They threw the ball fuck ton. I feel like this is a double correction game. Oh Where Shanahan fresh off his oh shit? I did the Super Bowl thing again is you're going to pound the rock and The Patriots are also going to pound the rocket. It's gonna be a rock-off which yeah The Patriots are also gonna pound the rockhead. It's gonna be a rock-off which yeah Like adds up to my point being it's gonna be like a 13 to 3 game. Mm-hmm. You think it's a 13 to 3 game? I'd for 16 to 3. Yeah who? $4, huh? I think for hours might score a little bit more than that
Starting point is 01:02:25 Patris defense looks slow. I mean, follow the trend. Biggest underdog. True. I don't believe in you, Hank. Get right. Do it. For who? The favorites. It could be a get right for the Patriots. Yeah, you've got conflicting get rights going on.
Starting point is 01:02:38 No, I've been steadfast. Do you think we see Drake Man all on this game? I think it's a, I hope not. Yeah. Even in the one drive that he played he got crushed Yeah, when do you want to see Drake man when we have an offensive line that can block for him? So not until next year and maybe the year after Yeah, next year. Are you saying shut Drake may down for the season not shut him down? But I would not get like I get more scared than excited if he goes in I guess fair. Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:06 again What's the best? What's the best case scenario if he plays well even if you well if you went out you could Guarantee you guarantee yourself a playoff spot because you already have that one win So by the math that we just went through you could clinch if you won't if you want out you control your own destiny Yeah, you could yeah, I guess that I don't I don't see it that way In theory, you're right Super Bowl goes through Fox for this year. I Don't I don't know if the 49ers are Not good because they're hurt or maybe this is just the year from hell for them. Or maybe I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:45 So Christian McCaffrey, it was reported earlier this week, he took a little trip to Germany to see a doctor. To me, to me, that doesn't, that doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of reason for optimism when he's going to Europe to see a doctor. Did you hear Ryan Whitney say that he heard a rumor that he's might retire? Really? Yeah, that seems crazy. Whitney also he's gonna he's on in a minute here but like he stick to hockey buddy you can do the rumor boys for hockey. He actually
Starting point is 01:04:16 admitted in the interview that's coming up that they just fuck around a lot with rumors. Yeah, so that's what that's a crazy rumor. It's a crazy rumor. Definitely not crazy. You can't say that stuff in a podcast. You can can't crazy if it was true. It's crazy if it was true crazy Yeah, he heard from I don't know you said someone from parcel, but I don't know I didn't ask him who it was I mean these walls if they could talk They'd be like Chris McAfee might retire. Well, so Whitney he was it's so crazy. He was a Right. He was out on the golf course earlier this week. Yeah, Whitney was yeah Do you think he heard it on the golf course from somebody who knows who knows?
Starting point is 01:04:47 So yeah McCaffrey is in Germany seeing a doctor for experimental reasons. I hope he did this. Yeah German doctors running experiments doesn't always turn out so good. No If he was gonna retire do you think it's a situation where he goes to Germany and the German guy tells him he has to Retire and that's what that's what cues it off. I think the jerk, I think you go to Germany is the last stop. Right. But they, you go to Germany and they're like, we don't got any of that. Yeah. Well, the German told me to quit. So I quit. Imagine if FDR felt that way. Hang. I don't know. It's weird. Hank would be crazy. Again, wit. Yeah. yeah, what's if we see Christian Caffrey this year? Whitney your it's despicable what you did and if Christian Caffrey does in fact retire we should get to
Starting point is 01:05:34 Find out who the source is and give that person credit So what would the reason be for for going to Germany is he getting a treatment done? That's not that's not legal in the United States? I think they just have, they do a lot of like stem cell stuff I think. Kobe did it with his knees. Yeah. So they probably just have, I don't know, you get another opinion. Okay. You get bored of getting second opinions just down the street. You're like, ah, let's go to Germany. It might help. What is it? Is it like, is it like turkey for hair plugs? Like there's just
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yeah, the German doctors can do that American doctors can't Germany Yeah, well some American doctors are very very good at doing hair plugs. Hey, that's true really good But okay, so cheaper, but that would make sense for McCaffrey like like people go to Turkey for hair plugs They don't want to pay the premium that Americans cost It's a bunch of like collegiate athletes flying back on German airways and they've all got their knees wrapped up. Yeah, like what but Chris McCaffrey doesn't. I'm finding it out for you right now. All right, so it's a there's a German doctor in that does a it's referred to as Regenna
Starting point is 01:06:40 kin also known as orthokin. According to Web DMD, it is a type of regenerative medicine that uses your own blood to treat your joint pain. This serum is made from your blood. It's treated in such a way that it produces anti-inflammatory protein called IL-1 receptor antagonist. This protein may change your body's inflammatory response, improve any damage to your cartilageilage So it sounds like it's a procedure that we don't do in the states People who have done it are Kobe Bryant Peyton Manning Tiger Woods Trace McGrady and Freddie couples That's funny that boom boom when did it yeah, Freddie couples. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, so it's probably yeah So I probably doesn't happen here and it what I remember when Kobe did it like his knees bounced back for yeah another year or two I do think that there's something to having a
Starting point is 01:07:30 Doctor with an accent tell you something that makes it sound more official Yeah, like if I hear a foreign especially like a European accent from a doctor you feel like you're in Rocky form I'm like that guy knows what he's doing. Yeah All right. That was our Patriots for years preview. Whatever happened to just going to see Dr. James Andrews? He doesn't do this. Good solid American. Kelly's gonna do this kind of stuff. Brown's Raiders.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I like the Raiders just because of the business decisions that were talked about. Yeah, but is he overreacting? No, I saw some of the tape. I saw one cornerback that looked like he was completely checked out during one play. I saw if you don't check out on Antonio Pierce's team. That's right, but I just feel like he's he might be doing the the hard-ass first-year head coach thing. Like he might be over correcting where he's saying he might also bench Gardner-Menshu. I mean they lost to a team that hadn't had a lead in the fourth quarter for 20 games.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, yeah, I mean it was pretty embarrassing. You have to fix things for sure, but I get the feeling like Antonio Pierce is doing it's the classic hard-nosed first-year head coach thing where he's like, I'm gonna fix everything immediately So you like the Browns get the bums out? No, I don't like the Browns but in this game I think I don't like them at all Yeah, I I saw John Watson is media day. I now he his answer that I'm about to read technically he's right. I just fucking he's so he's the worst. I don't I feel bad for Browns fans at this point. John Watson was asked about more designed runs in the offense. And he responded
Starting point is 01:09:01 that he is not a running back. I'm not going in there to ask them for more designed runs if I don't have to run I'm not going to run I'm not trying to take any of any hits. I'm not a running quarterback in a sense I can make things happen, but I'm not trying to run. I'm not a running back. It's not my specialty They sign me to throw the ball make decisions be a quarterback not a runner Bro, you I mean you're just a jerk. Yeah, like I'm open to everything. We got to win as a team. Like I don't blame him for not actively going into the coach's office and being like, Hey, let me run the ball. Right. I don't think any quarterback would necessarily want to do that.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yeah, like the sentiment is not wrong. The way he delivers is he's just a dickhead. He's a dickhead. Yeah. And he's just like, I don't want to run the ball. I'm a passer. I don't want to run the ball. I'm not gonna ask to run the ball more. They paid me to be quarterback getting the ball. I'm a passer. I don't want to run the ball. I'm not going to ask to run the ball more. I don't want to take more hits. Yeah, they paid me to be quarterback. Getting hit hurts. I feel my body hurts when people, when big men hit me.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Just say, we'll do whatever to win the team. And then he went on to say, if I run and get hurt, it's a lose-lose for Kevin Stefanski because people will blame him for getting me hurt. And it's like, actually, it's probably a win-win because people will be like, thank you for getting him hurt and now we can go to the playoffs with our backup quarterback.
Starting point is 01:10:09 James Swenson. Yeah. But it's not good if he gets hit and he gets hurt and then he has to go see a therapist. True, true, that's bad. Maybe he's just protecting people. He's protecting people from himself. True, true.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Either way, yeah, I'm buying in on Antonio Pierce, rallying up the team. I think, so they're the worst running team in football right now, the Raiders are. Yeah, Jameel White and Alexander Madison just can't get it going. And if I know Antonio Pierce, the way to address having the worst running team in football
Starting point is 01:10:40 is to run the ball more. Yeah. We just need to assert ourselves in the run game. Lean on them. Is what he's gonna say. Which some coaches would say if we're bad at running the football Let's play to our strengths Antonio Pierce. I think he takes it as a personal affront to his physicality as a head coach, right? He's like we're the worst. We're not gonna be the worst after this week So we're just gonna run the ball down your throat as much as we can Also, I do think that the Raiders defensive line is going to they're gonna eat
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah, they're gonna eat because the Browns offensive line has a lot of injuries on it. And I think Wyatt Teller is on IR. Yeah. So that's, things are getting worse for the Browns offensive line. Very banged up. Speaking of banged up, Miles Garrett has an Achilles foot and thigh. We all do, but he, his are hurt. Yeah. Achilles foot and thigh. That's like the, the bone is connected to the, this hurt. Yeah Achilles foot and thigh that's like the the bone is connected to the this bone. Yeah, it's just creeping its way up That's just a lot of injuries right there Achilles foot thigh his knees. Okay, don't hog them all Yeah, his shins fine a lot of his hamstrings. Okay, a lot of injuries. All right last two games chiefs at Chargers
Starting point is 01:11:42 Patrick Holmes has not been very good. Some would say that he has been good. Okay. He won a Super Bowl. Yeah. And they haven't lost. That's true. But some may say he hasn't been playing very well. Actually, Patrick Holmes said that. He said I haven't been, I haven't played very well this year. He hasn't played up to his own standard for himself I have a fun stat for you in the last eight regular season games Patrick Mahomes is 11 touchdowns 9 interception is thrown for 300 plus yards just one time Hmm, which made me believe that there's a chance Patrick Mahomes might
Starting point is 01:12:24 Just have the most fuck you career of all time to everyone who watches football and win like 10 Super Bowls and just play average football every regular season and he can just clutch up whenever he wants and he's like fuck you guys like I'll just do this every January. Yeah so additional info about that stretch where they've had you said last eight regular season games Yeah, they are five and three. Yeah. No, I play not bad No, I know he is his defense has been playing great. He just has not been playing
Starting point is 01:12:54 He's not playing MVP Patrick Mahomes. Yeah did in the playoffs. He's not he admitted himself Yeah, also those long pass interference calls. He doesn't get yardage stats for those. Yeah, so just a heads up This is gonna be interesting because Joe all Probably not gonna know he's out and so is Rashaan Slater They're both dealing with something as Harbaugh would say and the Chargers have a bye next week And if they start Justin Herbert, that's just like the biggest mistake ever I don't think Herbert's gonna start anywhere because he his ankle is not gonna get better I don't either but I also when Justin Herbert comes in the locker room and he's like coach. I want to go
Starting point is 01:13:29 Taylor Heinecke though Taylor Heinecke. Yeah, do you think Patrick Holmes been playing well in the regular season? I think he's still like statistically no, I think he's looked off this year's thus far He he said it himself, but I think he's he's still been playing like pretty good quarterback Yeah, he's not been patched. He's not been he's not doing like the wow. Holy shit This guy is just stepping on our throats and start to finish. He's making plays when he has to he's been clutch Yeah, I'm not again taking out playoffs because obviously that was a totally different run. Yeah And this is just how he maybe this is just how he does it. I just noticed it. And if
Starting point is 01:14:06 chiefs fans get mad at me, you get mad at your own quarterback because he said himself, I haven't played very well. Yeah, we said I haven't played it very well. And that's not even a stats thing. He's been he's been not up to Patrick Mahomes standard. For sure. He hasn't looked like the the crazy holy shit Patrick Mahomes in the regular season. But again, we do this every year where we're like Patrick Mahomes looks off the Chiefs offense looks. Yeah, of course. And then and then next thing you know, they just won the
Starting point is 01:14:30 Super Bowl. No, they're winning the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's my whole point is it's actually annoying that he can do this and get away with it. So they got Kareem Hunt back. Okay, so it's not gonna be the the Carson Steele show. Okay, probably splitting time, I would guess running back. Yeah. Kareem Hawn. When was the last time he was on the Chiefs? Is that 2018? I'll look it up. I think it was a long time ago. I think it was probably like 2018. Yeah, I think that the Chiefs are going to 18. Yeah. If Justin Herbert was playing if they were healthy, I guess if they weren't the Chargers and had healthy players on offense, then I would I would say this might be a Jim Harbaugh
Starting point is 01:15:08 Welcome back to the NFL game. Yeah, but given what they're dealing with I feel like it's the Chiefs Yeah, I'd agree with that I'm Block step with you there and I if the if the Chargers have aspirations going to the playoffs and that kind of stuff like there's 0% chance to play Patrick Holmes or sorry Justin Herbert Yeah, like you have a bye week. Yeah, okay last up Ravens bills I Think kind of similar. I believe in the bills
Starting point is 01:15:33 I think the bills are very good but kind of similar to what I was saying about the Vikings I think this might be the spot the the bye hot or so high and take the Ravens Yeah, Josh Allen has been I think he's the MVP right now, right? I think he absolutely is the MVP through three weeks. Yeah, I would say he's gotten off to the best start of anybody The Ravens still feel like they're they're very hungry Yeah, like they're even though they've they had they got their win in so they're not no one three. I feel like this is Still a very good Ravens team. They lost by like half a foot to the Chiefs Yeah, the Raiders comeback was just crazy at the end of that game. Yeah, but the Raven I'm not I'm not selling the Ravens at all
Starting point is 01:16:13 I Yeah, I agree with you John Harbaugh He I love this about him. He's like he feels like a real I mean the Harbors are just football coaches, but he He went in like started coaching the offensive line like it feels like a real I mean, the hardbards are just football coaches. But he he went in like started coaching the offensive line. I think last week before the Cowboys game. She's been like, you know what, I'm going to show you how to do it. I love that. Give me this. Give me this tire iron. I'll change the tire. So that kind of move with his own football team. Yeah, I'll do it. I'll take care of it. So the bills are giving up 118
Starting point is 01:16:42 rushing yards per game so far in 2024. Even though two of the three wins have been blowouts, so the other team doesn't have to try to run the ball at all. The Ravens very good at running the football. Might be a tractor Cito game. Yeah, it could be this is because Tractor Cito look good last week. He did. He did. This is a fun Sunday night game. Okay, that's one more game. Oh, yeah. There's one more game Big Cat. Oh, yeah, commanders Cardinals. I'm an idiot my bad. That's okay. I don't know why I haven't written down. Ah,
Starting point is 01:17:11 I had a beat on this game. This games gonna be fun. I had a beat on this game a month and a half ago Now everyone's gonna be like you just missed that on purpose. I literally have it written down. That's okay I put in a bet for some reason like a month and a half ago on the commanders to cover I got a bad number though. It was plus three now. I think it's three and a half Wait the commanders you bet the commanders plus three a month and a half ago. Yeah, and now it's plus three now Why did you bet this game specifically a month and a half because I just had I had an idea about this game Okay, I was like this this feels like the commanders are gonna be coming into form offensively and the the Cardinals I still think that their defense is suspect. Got it.
Starting point is 01:17:49 So I love the idea and plus the Cliff Kingsbury factor. Yes. So I was like I'm going to bet this game. I'm going to bet this game and somehow got a worse line. Early August. Let me look at our leaders. Yeah, we're awesome. I somehow got a worse line.
Starting point is 01:18:00 That's not a good sign. That's a that's crazy. Yeah. Well, also you forget that the Cardinals people didn't know that the Cardinals were gonna be this feisty But the Cardinals just looked bad on Sunday. Yeah, they did Let's see I don't know. I don't know. I just saw this office has literally been perfect for two games straight They had an all-time performance on Monday night football and they're in use.
Starting point is 01:18:27 No wait, I got the commander's money line, which was plus 114. What is it now for commander's money line? Higher than that. You think it's high? Has to be. There are 3.25. Yeah, there you go. So I got a worse number on it. That's insane. It's bad investing.
Starting point is 01:18:43 How did that happen? I don't know. I think it's because the Cardinals offense has looked pretty good and the commander's defense has looked very, very bad. It did not look good on Sunday. No, it didn't look bad. It looked bad. Also, short week. Nobody had any idea that it was going to be a short week. They didn't know the schedule. It is insane, right? That crazy. Like the commanders have been playing as far off the charts in the positive direction for the last two weeks as they could possibly be doing. Right. And yeah, the Cardinals coming off a bad performance. Listen, I'm not the I'm not the best gambler in the world. That's so funny. I mean, they've been perfect. The
Starting point is 01:19:22 commanders I do I think there's be points galore in this game Yeah, it's good. It should be a sighted for this game. It's this is Because way hasn't punted in two weeks because it did not to put pressure on you PFT Not to put any pressure on you, but there's a lot of pressure You are basically Holding our happiness in the afternoon in your hands. Yes, because basically holding our happiness in the afternoon in your hands. Yes. Because Patriots 49ers could get ugly. Yes. Chiefs Chargers could get ugly. Brown's Raiders are his gross. The commanders and Cardinals have to give us a great game. I'm putting the yeah, America's happiness of the
Starting point is 01:19:58 nation on my shoulders. Yeah, like I just realized that those those are terrible games. Yeah. Otherwise, listen, if there's one team That's fun to watch in the NFL. It's the Washington commanders. You have to deliver. Are you up for this challenge? I'm up for the challenge. All right I love it again We talked about how I have to build a winning culture for myself on Wednesday's show I think part of that is is taking on the responsibility of the entire nation. Yeah, like I want the pressure I wish that pressure is a privilege
Starting point is 01:20:25 You know how you can slide the line when you're betting I wish I could slide the money line and just take a worse line and get in your hole. Yeah Take it take an awkward line head right into my hole. Just give back money. Like no, I'm good. It's 145 I'm take 114 with my boy. I think Listen, I am I'm obviously very confident some may say a little too confident in the commander Some may say I overreact to one game because I've had nothing but absolute horse shit in my life for the last people We've all there's they'd be losers and they'd be haters
Starting point is 01:20:54 I am I'm very confident in our offense our defense. I'm still very realistic about I think that our defense We're not the worst in the NFL anymore about. I think that our defense, we're not the worst in the NFL anymore, but we're definitely in that conversation for the worst in the NFL. And I think that if Dan Quinn can do anything in his first year, if he can make us to be like the 25th ranked defense or the 22nd ranked defense in the NFL, I think that would be a big win because we just don't have the dudes. We got rid of two of our pass rushers last year. We've got Emmanuel Forbes coming back, which you could some would argue that's a negative that he's coming back. Yes, I would. I would argue that. Yeah. Although he might he might get a little mojo going if he gets to tackle Kyler because I think Kyler might weigh less than him. True. So
Starting point is 01:21:40 that's good. But our defense is bad. He's gonna he's gonna think he's gonna think he's big and strong Yeah, our man. I'm so strong right now our defense is bad, and I don't think that that's gonna change too much It might change a little bit. That's what I'm hoping for over the course of the season But we're gonna have fun, but we're gonna have fun I am concerned about Austin Eckler being out because he's been awesome and one thing that he's been really good at we've been waiting for you know like really good at. We've been waiting for you know, like Cordero Patterson. Yeah, he was really he was really good at returning kickoffs. Right? Yeah. And the new kickoff system.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Austin Echler has been the best at returning kickoff. Yeah, he's been for some reason he knows how to return the new dynamic kickoff, right, which by the way, is a great name for it. Agreed. Because even if nothing happens, it's called the dynamic kickoff, right? It sounds cool. Austin Echler has been the best in the NFL at that he's been very consistent him being out with the concussion is Gonna be I think he's gonna be felt not only an offense, but special teams can be a big factor, too I like I like you guys in this game, and I like this game. Yeah, I'm just America weights
Starting point is 01:22:39 Sorry for injecting the the Jaden Daniels quarterback conversation into a different game I've just been my my brain this week has been 95% thinking about Jayden Daniels I've got I'm actually that's low I've forgotten yeah it's probably is it's too low I've probably forgotten about so much other stuff this week just because my brain is just going Jayden yeah Jayden Jayden I see that with MB like when he started playing don't say that yeah, what? That's crazy. Yeah, he could see you would MVP All right, you would love a yeah a joellen bag player that injures people's knees whenever he gets a chance What?
Starting point is 01:23:18 If you were to tell me that that Jayden would have the career of jewel and bead so he'd win an MVP He would never get to a conference final. Never get to a conference championship game. Story's not over. Switch countries to get a gold medal. Yeah. Front run. I don't think I'd take it.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I'm not going to make that trade. I think you would. I can do better. I think you would. You can do better. I can do better. You can definitely do better. Like I said, we're going to win a Super Bowl in the next five years.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Be considered a top five player in the league even though he's injured every single season. Yeah. Oh also, don't forget ducking your main competitor. That's true your rival all the time Yeah, when I wouldn't want that wouldn't want the meniscus is that's not true. He doesn't do that. Does he have any miss? No, that's definitely not he needs Alright, let's get to the picks. Ah Let's do our TD parlay first. We have it finding DraftKings. Everyone has a shot to score big with DraftKings touchdown parlay profit boost.
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Starting point is 01:25:01 FT ball See dkng.co slash FT Ball. Hank, PFT myself, or is it? I lost last week. I also lost. Oh, Max is back in. So you, me, PFT, and Max. OK. I'm going to go Roshan. Roshan Johnson.
Starting point is 01:25:15 OK. I think he's going to score. What are the odds on that? I don't know. Probably decent-ish. He did, he's getting an extended look this week. I like that. And I love an extended look. Mm-hmm What is what's your pick?
Starting point is 01:25:30 Pft. I'm gonna go with Breezell Okay Max minus 145 not great not great odds, but I'm max. I'm gonna bring it back I'm gonna I think these odds will probably change by the time Roshan is plus 190. Okay I think these odds will definitely change by the time Roshan is plus 190. Okay. I think these odds will definitely change by the time game time starts for the Dallas Goddard being plus 210 makes no sense Okay in what way he's the only guy he's only got
Starting point is 01:25:58 No, you know what it also makes me think that maybe maybe one of the Vontae Smith or AJ Brown will play all right I still like I like Dallas Goddard. I like Dallas Goddard. All right or AJ Brown will play. All right, I still like I like Dallas Got her. I like Dallas got her. All right, let's win this. All right, and then our picks We have who's who's in first. I know I'm tied for last with memes. I'm tied for first I think I might be tied for first. Nice. Nice boys. All right, who goes first? Things me Yes, big cat goes first Hank three and three pft three and three max two three one mean big cat two and four All right, I'll take the over in the commander's Cardinals game. All right, I just I
Starting point is 01:26:30 Want it? I want I want that game to be fun. So bad come in the hole holes wide open. Yeah. All right, Hank I'm like goat see I Will take The Packers minus three okay Not going against the Vikings There will be a hungry dog this week the dogs have been hungry this season, but The hungriest dogs are the ones that don't seem obvious. How is the hungry cat parlay on Monday night terrible? That's why dogs. I'm a dog man never go away from the dogs cats gross. Yeah agreed agreed. Oh, I just spilled
Starting point is 01:27:11 That's all right. I got a bunch of paper that I'm just gonna put All right memes You can take the Cardinals minus three and a half It's a terrible line Washington commanders. Memes are such a dick. That was such a dick move memes. Gasping up your boy, Breeze.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I'm trying to be nice to the Jets. The way you were talking. Let him talk. You made me like the Cardinals more and more. You can suck my dick. Max texted me during the segment to go Spotted yeah All right, well you guys can both suck my dick you don't want to see me I did not take anyone during that yeah, you know you don't want to see me have success. It's sad
Starting point is 01:27:58 Like you know the way you're talking oh 100% 100% Like I there's there is a voice inside me that's telling me PFT chill the fuck out, but I'm completely disregarding that Yeah I'm like I'm like that dude stocked in rush with the sub that's going to Titanic and you're hearing the sub start to creak And you like fuck it. We're gonna see this awesome shipwreck, and it's gonna be sweet, and you're gonna change the world Yeah, that's what I'm thinking right now. I'm ready to be heard again. Yes Alright, who's up? I am now. I'm ready to be heard again. Yes. All right. Who's up? I am up. I'm going to take the Falcons minus two and a half. Oh, I like
Starting point is 01:28:30 that pick. I like that pick. All right. PFT you got two. Okay. Yeah, I do. I love both these picks Patriots 49ers under 40.5. Okay. Smart smart and the Washington commanders plus three and a half I like a money line and I love them as a dog so I'm taking the points okay and I'm getting that fresh new line on them yep I seriously I wish I could I wish I could take your line I would yeah I would all right Max I am going to take Ram's Bears under 41 and a half. OK. Memes? I'm going to take Chief's Chargers under 40.
Starting point is 01:29:13 OK. Brown's Raiders over 37. Whoa. Brown's Raiders over 37 points are down You took the Falcons right max. I'll take the I'll take the Ravens minus two and a half to someone take them no No, no, okay. Okay last thing before we get too biz and whiz Fantasy fuck boys brought to you by our friends at body armor Sports water the alkaline water that provides real hydration with electrolytes for taste. Everybody's always drinking around the office
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Starting point is 01:30:55 Someone say it's not a tie, it's a draw, or it's a result. In my opinion, if you fucking give up a goal and turn a win into a draw, that's a loss. Loss. So don't act like it's a draw or anything a win into a draw, that's a loss. Loss! So don't act like it's a draw or anything worse than a loss. It's a fucking loss. Fuck you Arsenal fans. Watch real football.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Man City, what is that? A place that Tom Brenneman never wants to go to? Exactly. Exactly. My sleeper, Piz and Wiz. Coming up next on Pot of My Take, great interview. Yes. Good plug.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Jamalio. Thanks. Jamalio. Hey, what's up you dickheads. This is Mayor Adams from New York City. I'm starting Moodang. Moodang is starting. It's a pygmy hippopotamus we talked about.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm not taking money from Thailand to say this. I'm not making money from Thailand to say this. What makes a great coat? I'm not making money from Thailand to say this, just so you know. Uh, if your child has a Moodang stuffed animal, look underneath it, there's a good chance that they're hiding crystal methamphetamines in their room beneath the Moodang stuffed animal. I want some Moodang loafers. Uh, I'm sitting rats. I'm sitting rats, they're running the city, and I think one wore a wire, and now I'm in prison because of it. So fuck rats. Rats out. And then my sleeper is Zack Wilson revenge game I believe in Zack
Starting point is 01:32:09 Wilson coming back Denver is the New York City of Colorado I've always said this and Zack Wilson he will be captain I agree what's up fuckers my name is Matthew sluker a sluker Matthew sluka, I'm starting myself because I'm not starting anymore. Ah, no. I'm leaving UNLV. The Holy Cross Transfer? Yeah. It'd be a real shame if you ended up in Harrisonburg.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah, I'm sitting, uh, NIL because everyone lies to you. And that's why I'm not starting anymore. Nobody really knows what the rules are. No one knows. Las Vegas is a fucking corrupt place where money doesn't work out. Yeah. It's like, this is our thing. This is La Costa Nostra.
Starting point is 01:32:46 You don't tell you, keep your mouth shut if they don't pay you. In my sleeper. Put this guy in the desert. This is the new quarterback for UNLV, Haj. He looks good, but I only saw one clip of it from Blutman. He tweeted it out. He said he's the real deal and now I'm in. Haagen-Dazs.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Haj. Haj. Haj. Going to the desert to pay respects to the Haj. Haj. Yes, exactly All right. That was good. Fantasy fuck boys. That story is a new day. It's NIL Yeah, so he was allegedly told by an assistant that he was gonna get a hundred grand Yep, and then he got there and he got what three thousand dollars a week
Starting point is 01:33:19 Yeah, is that it? And so now he's like, hey, you told me you were gonna pay me and you're not paying me So I'm out. Yeah, because case case. What's that? It's like the young Dolph case Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I know exactly exactly good point. Yeah, that was really good point Yeah, young Dolph remind so mean big cat no, but memes is over there like oh, what's going on? And so maybe you can tell memes the men who were arrested from the murder of young Dolph were told they're gonna get a hundred K they Murdered him got paid three hundred dollars and then five hundred dollars so they're arresting the guys that no now They got arrested are ratting
Starting point is 01:33:58 And they're like hey, you sure hey you sure us these guys cuz they actually didn't pay me as much as they said They were gonna pay me. Yeah, very sad fucked up, but similar okay? Yeah Okay, young Dolph Yeah I I understand from his perspective if he got lied to and he has he's not gonna go play in the NFL Yeah, and he has one chance to get paid to play football He's got to take advantage of it redshirt our French Phil Weathers had a good take on it and basically said that NIL is the modern-day drug deal gone bad
Starting point is 01:34:24 Yep, if things don't happen according to plan then what do you do who you're gonna complain to about it? has had a good take on it and basically said that in IELTS, the modern day drug deal gone bad. Yep. If things don't happen according to plan, then what do you do? Who are you going to complain to about it? Yep. You just have, he's using the only leverage that he has, which is I have to quit after three weeks and then I can play another season. Yeah. And his offensive coordinator and head coach from Holy Cross at JMU.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Ooh, interesting. Do you know? Maybe you reunite him next year. Interesting. Okay. All right, let's get to our interview with Biz and Wit. Before we get to Biz and Wiz, brought to you by our good friends over at Chevy, there's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks. That's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck. It's the Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Well, it's because Silverado is a partner. They've been a partner of ours. We love Chevy. We love the Silverado.
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Starting point is 01:36:38 Okay. We now welcome on our two very, very good friends, probably our best podcast duo friends. Yeah, I would say so yeah Yeah, it's it's you be my second the Kelsey's caller daddy. Yeah caller daddy you guys will be my second second Who's number one? I think will and Taylor They've gotten to you they brode you up We do a podcast together and then all hit the showers You guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, you guys probably, our NHL preview. That's in January. January. This is not our NHL preview. What's football? We do not want to.
Starting point is 01:37:27 I don't even know if we should talk. Should we do our NHL recap? We could do our NHL recap. We could do an NFL preview with you guys. Oh, sick. I know a little bit about the NFL. Since he's going to be unreal. What do you know about the NFL?
Starting point is 01:37:38 They're a very good team. I know that that Cincinnati Bengals are in trouble right now because what percentage of teams with that start the season even Owen Two don't make it? I think one of the last 41 I saw make the playoffs. And it was them, it was Cincy. Ooh, good karma, good karma.
Starting point is 01:37:54 That's not what karma is. Now they're Owen Three. It's a good Omen. Good something. Karma's different. Good karma. I can't think of right now. I'd actually be bad karma because they've done it before.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I think it's a good Omen. Omen. Omen. They've got the culture to do I think it's I think it's a good omen. Yeah Yeah, they've got the culture to do it and say you're okay. They know how to do it. Uh, relax. I'm gonna I do have one Little hockey question Joe burrow. He's got the frosted tips. Yeah, he does Yeah, little hockey question not really any show preview because again, we're not gonna do right now. What who can you guys explain the beef right now? What's the beef? Well, you guys are beefing with a GM. What is happening? I'll let Whit handle that.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I just see a series of quote tweets where it's like, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I back that guy. That's not a, I never retweeted anything about that. Quote tweets I said. I didn't quote tweet it either. Maybe it was the chicklets.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Bizz might have said that was Squanto's dad being me. Okay. Basically what happened was Jeremy Swamen is this awesome goalie that the Boston Bruins have. And they had Linus Ulmark as well. He won the Vezna two years ago. Swamen was kind of the backup, but they split time in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Ulmark took over in the playoffs. They lost in seven games to the Florida Panthers. So then going into this past year, they ended up kind of splitting it, but Swainman took over as more of the number one. And then going into the playoffs, Swainman was unreal. They beat Toronto in seven, and then they lost to Florida in six.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Florida goes on to win the Stanley Cup. Without Swainman, Boston probably loses to Toronto. He was dominant. Oh, that's your team, Biz. That'sainman, Boston probably loses to Toronto. He was dominant. Oh, that's your team, Biz. That's Biz's team. They can't win. Like the big deal selects. Just wanted to make sure we say that.
Starting point is 01:39:31 So, after this, Ulmark now has one year left on his deal. Swainman is a restricted free agent. They tried to trade Ulmark at the deadline because they realized Swainman was their guy. He denied a trade that they had lined up with a lot to the LA Kings Okay So because he had the no trade clause where I think he had ten teams picked he could decide LA is one of them
Starting point is 01:39:54 I don't want to go there. I wouldn't you want to go to LA. I don't get it Oh, yeah, well, you won't it will make less sense when you find out that he went to Ottawa Okay, okay. So he is European So maybe that difference in time zone and he's got kids in the face. I'm sorry. I like that. That makes it like the time zone difference to Europe. Yeah. Yeah. There's no other reason where LA like if he went there, like they could be a cup contender and it's also LA pretty nice place to live. And LA needs a goalie. They can't get a goalie. So, all right, well, Bruin's like,
Starting point is 01:40:26 we gotta trade him, we gotta trade him. They end up realizing, or they knew beforehand, that his no trade list, he could change the teams on it on a certain day, say it's July 1st, I don't remember the exact day. So they have this trade lined up with Ottawa, they're panicked, we think, we gotta get this done, because if tomorrow comes, he may put Ottawa on the list. So they rush trade him to Ottawa. They don't get much of a return
Starting point is 01:40:48 They got this goalie corpus ala who struggled for a while now. He's got upside. Okay He has been very good, but he had a real bad last two years and Boston they think their team defense They think they could put any above-average goaltender in that and it's like system QB. That's kind of what Boston's thinking is. Like all Mark was doing it, so was Swainman. They were basically doing it at the same time. Swainman has also never played more than 55 games, and I think he has 135 games in his career. Not durability, they were essentially
Starting point is 01:41:19 the last few years sharing the net, but leaned towards more Swainman in the back half of the season, because he was playing better, and in in playoffs his numbers speak for themselves. He was I think statistically the best goalie right Whit? Yeah enough where like now four nations tournament, Canada, Russia, of Canada, Sweden, Finland, US will be facing off this February and best on best. People are like I think Swainman might be USA's goalie goalie. Like he's turned into a star. Some people say he hasn't done it long enough, whatever.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Backstory a little bit, the summer prior, the Bruins took Swamen to arbitration. Arbitration's where Biz makes the joke that all they do is rip on you. They say you got a small cog, a bad breath, horrible teammates. Your wife says you're horrible and bad. That's exactly how arbitration works.
Starting point is 01:42:03 They go in and they just bury you well apparently they were so bad and so brutal to Swain and he was pissed off he was disgusted he it was it left a bad taste in his mouth. Sounds like he might have a small cock though. Who knows what they said. So who is it that rips on you? Is it the GM? I don't know if it's the actual GM or their lawyer I don't know who actually is doing the ripping the actual talking. Because if it's like not a hockey guy just like a Lawyer that's doing it that would piss me off. Yeah. Yeah, you just know where it's coming from. Yeah, right. So it's Don Sweeney the GM So now they decide to trade all mark. They don't have a contract with Swainman yet He's still restricted But they have decided to trade all mark before this contract was swimming
Starting point is 01:42:41 Maybe figuring that they could just get him on the cheap and that he might agree to whatever, fall in line. But Swamen's got the bad taste in his mouth from arbitration, and then he did an interview where he talked about he understands that he wants to set the goalie market. He doesn't wanna fuck over other goalies in the NHL and take this lowball offer. So the stalemate has come to the point now.
Starting point is 01:43:05 I get news from somebody that Swainman got a recent, his last offer from the team, after the team really didn't talk to him much during the summer, which is kind of standard in maybe July and June. So that leads us to today. I get word that they've given him an offer. Four years times 6.2.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Apparently his offer was eight years times nine, which is definitely overreaching. But 9.25, which was the McAvoy contract, that was their comparable. Got it. I like how you guys are tag teaming this. Yeah, exactly, I love it. You guys should do a podcast.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Hop in whenever you want. You should do a podcast. So I find out that the offer is four years times 6.2, crazy low ball, and that they haven't talked in like three weeks, it's August, camps in 10 days. So I said it on the podcast. I was talking about what I'd heard and we just kind of thought nothing of it. Biz was like, oh shit, because I hadn't told him prior. I was getting excited. Like I was like, oh we got this, you know he's saying this on the on on the pod like fans
Starting point is 01:44:05 Are gonna be like oh, this is the most we've heard about this all summer drama, so say I said this Early September if not late August Don Sweeney the GM of the Bruins does a press conference the day before camp opens That's pretty standard procedure for all the GM's and in the middle of the press conference He's being asked kind of over and over what's up with Swainman camp starts tomorrow you don't have your star goalie you could tell he's frustrated annoyed I'm not gonna address any of the rumors actually I'll address one that part that spitting up on yourself podcast spitting up on yourself called it the spitting up on yourself podcast we got him they sit yeah. I'm like, oh, he's calling us names.
Starting point is 01:44:46 He's talking about us. This is amazing. He's a big fish. He's like, they, they, Biz, everyone loves Biz. My son loves Biz. I know he's an entertainer. He's talking about that. I didn't return Jeremy Swainman's calls for three weeks.
Starting point is 01:44:59 That's bullshit. So we're like, this is phenomenal. We were at Chicklets Cup when it broke, Spitting Up On on yourself podcast. The guy has no clue. And also I had the contract offer, right? He didn't argue that. So whether it was two weeks, three weeks or 10 days, there's been enough silence in August
Starting point is 01:45:20 with your star goalie that it's seriously alarming to most Bruins fans. Right. Yeah. And I would think that the Bruins there generally I think biz when you talk about the best regimes in hockey All right, would you consider them to be one of the best include this biz? Sorry quickly they have since Don Sweeney took over as GM. I think ten years ago the most points in the NHL Yeah, I would say a very successful regime They probably would have one maybe two more cups if they would have executed their drafts flawlessly or even like Like got a bounce here. They go into game seven Yeah, like 80 to 85 percent like strike rate
Starting point is 01:45:53 They they had three first rounders one year and I think they missed with every one didn't they one of them was the brusk brusk So the brusk was solid but then like there was a couple that were right around those other picks where you're like, oh buddy That's the guy and I know it's hard to protect them predicting the draft so not full Criticism to him but overall replenishing getting good free agents at the right price They've really moved on from the right people at the right time and he deserves a lot of credit But I was a big fan of yours, too
Starting point is 01:46:22 I agree with wit where I don't think that they really thought this through especially after having kind of pissed him off in last year's arbitration. There was a reason they didn't have enough money to pay him last year this big contract. They didn't have it. This year now I think they have 8.6 million now left in cap space where what I think viewers a slap in the face offer was the four years at 6.2, they should have offered them, give them security, but maybe start off at seven per.
Starting point is 01:46:53 I think there's not a chicken dick's chance in hell he doesn't at least get eight times eight. Chicken dick? Chicken dick. Here's another kind of- Chicken dicks are smaller in hell. Another aspect of this is that his agent represented, if not still represents, William Nylander, who years back held out till like December 1st with the Maple Leafs in the same exact situation.
Starting point is 01:47:14 He's like the Scott Boris? And he got what he wanted. And he got what he wanted. So I know you guys have a lot of football fans and other sports fans. So moving forward, it's a gamble, because they have that Corpus Aulaa who struggled the last couple of years. I heard he had a lot of upside,
Starting point is 01:47:28 lot, lot, lots of upside. So all of a sudden you get them in front of the structure team with good defense and, and, you know, good special teams. Anybody can be a good goalie for the Bruins. And he has a hot start. What do you mean by that? It's kind of like a system kind of like Mike Shanahan, Cal Shanahan. Got it.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Well, you get a running back or you get a quarterback in there and then they're just plugging in. The way they do it. Let them go. Let them go. When he had himself in. They're doing their thing. We're making good points. You are. I was listening to your football analogy. Yeah, because the way their defense is set up, you don't need a superstar. You don't need a freak back there. Well, but here's the thing though, but if you go back to playoffs, he was probably their
Starting point is 01:48:04 best player overall. He was their star. So it's kind of like, hey, we if you go back to playoffs, he was probably their best player overall. Yeah. He was their star. So it's kind of like, Hey, we're going to go to arbitration. We're going to, except for two or three first round picks, we're going to go to arbitration. We're going to rip you apart. Uh, and then all of a sudden you become the starter. You lead us into playoffs and that system did let him down a bit based on the amount
Starting point is 01:48:23 of shots that were given up and he stood on his head against Florida. So it's like, oh fuck, I already proved it, so then offer him, he's your guy. And if he wasn't your guy, why the fuck did you trade the Vezina winner from two years ago before you had it? Because you wanted to get corpus solo
Starting point is 01:48:36 and like a draft pick and maybe some prospect? Like, come on here, manage your assets better. He fumbled the deal and he called them out on it and he said it was a slap in the face offer. The only discrepancy was wit said like, like basically like he didn't return Swamen's camps callback where worst case there was radio silence for three weeks unacceptable. So then boom, boom, boom. So this happens. It is awesome for the pot, right? Like whenever we call you out. Yeah. It's like, it's an original six franchise with an enormous question mark as camp begins over their star goalie. And the guy's talking about us, like you think he's rattled?
Starting point is 01:49:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously like you don't want to, you don't ever want to be on the side of like saying something on the pot. It turns out it's not true with the size that our show is, but what do I have, what do I have to get out of making that up? Right, so what happens if they don't come to an agreement? So here's the kicker. I think December 1st, maybe a week or two discrepancy, if he is not signed by that time, they forfeit the season.
Starting point is 01:49:39 He can't play at all. Oh. So let's say Corpo Sallo, all of a sudden, he's 10 and four with a you know a 9 10 9 15 Save percentage and a goals against average like a little above 2 it's kind of like swimming Holy fuck so Swain is gonna start sweating right they're gonna see see everybody We could put any guy in here last fucking four goalies were successful playing in front of this team, right? So Swain might end up in a position where he is rooting against in a way.
Starting point is 01:50:05 He's rooting for the Bruins to win, but he's rooting for them to win. Win 6-5. 6-5, exactly. Right, now on the flip side, probably more likely, Corpus Aulos trash at the beginning and they're losing. Cool. And the fan base is already loud about get him signed. Yeah, the pressure's turned up.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Then it's like you could lose your job. Right. So I need you to tell me what side to be on. I will be very vocal. Yeah, the pressure's turned up. Then it's like, you could lose your job. Right, so I need you to tell me what side to be on, and I will be very vocal. Well, we're the player side. Yeah, always. And we're the player side, and also, it's not just the players, because I told Biz, if Swain was like, I want 9.5,
Starting point is 01:50:36 and I'm not budging, I'd be like, all right, well, you're ridiculous. 135 games in league, no. I think that, I think if Boston said, here's eight years at 7.75. I was just gonna say that number. Wow. That to me is like shake it now you got your your length. If Swainman's saying no I ain't taking less than 8.75 then I'm kind of in a situation where maybe I would be Don Sweeney and saying well wait it out
Starting point is 01:51:01 because that's not the offer we're ever gonna give you and December 1 tick, tick, and we'll see who has the leverage by then. And it's basically, what do you call it when you line up to the back and you walk out and then you shoot? It's a duel. It's a duel. Yeah. It's a duel. I love that.
Starting point is 01:51:17 So you guys are like, you get sources now, huh? He does. All the time. No, not a ton, but like- I feel like this happened a few times for you guys in the last well Yeah, were you two big ones? But you've broken stories that the rest of the NHL media is just not even like on well The thing is it happens by accident yeah And some of the times guys get like there's a lot of in we're not insiders by any means but insiders will get
Starting point is 01:51:39 Information and the source giving it to him be like you can't say anything though, right? So they know but they got a weight on it or something like that I don't if whoever's telling me something's like yeah I don't care like just make sure you don't say my name And it's something that is like worthy to talk about I'll talk about it Especially if it's like to try to help a player because this guy in my mind deserves eight times eight right right That's just our opinion yeah That's good. I'm on good you guys I'm on your side I also I mean it's it's cool that you guys have set it up where players
Starting point is 01:52:10 can trust you and that's the goal right exactly and you guys can like because I just love it whenever you guys stick it to traditional media it was so much fun to watch and what's funny is I've had three texts I've showed him some things I that I was asked not to share since then that are like, oh my god Don't people don't really like Don Tweeny. Right, right We're gonna get back to biz and whiz in a second brought to you by the farmers dog The days are warmer the walks are longer one easy way to help your dog shine this season is with fresh healthy food From the farmers dog Blake has been on with fresh healthy food from the farmers dog Blake has been on the farmers dog Stella is the farmers dog
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Starting point is 01:54:34 So when we're like tweeting out all these like hashtag rumor boys Like they might not know we're fucking right. Yeah, we say stuff like you guys that just can take it gets. We don't know shit Yeah, sometimes we don't know shit. Yeah, but sometimes we don't either. But we can laugh at ourselves. I don't really give a fuck. Why you guys are really good. But yeah, and we make like,
Starting point is 01:54:55 I would say some ridiculous claims where we're joking around a lot. So people are like, these idiots, these clowns. It's like, well yeah, we're trying to make people laugh. But when you get in the depths of like, actually talking hockey, we both know what we're talking about. People disagree. But to say like they have no clue what they're talking about when they're talking about the game. If you want to say that, that's fine. But we both know that we
Starting point is 01:55:15 know, we know the game. You know the game. Yeah. A lot of people know way more about it than I do, but a lot of people listening don't. Yeah. It's also be a wild rumor to just pull out of your ass. Yes, it would. Like the numbers are so specific. What do we gain out of that? No details, nothing. Right, nothing. I got another hockey question, not the NHL preview. Can Connery David win the big one?
Starting point is 01:55:36 Good question. No doubt in my mind. There has to be a little doubt. He's never won the big one. I know, I just don't have, yeah, obviously. I guess that's never won the big one. I know I just I just don't have yeah, obviously I guess that's a good point by you I'm very confident that this is the year. This is the year Yeah, and that I know I've said that previously but they've lost to the last three Stanley Cup champs
Starting point is 01:55:59 They have a better team this year than they did last year where they got to game seven of the cup final They have Leon dry side will signed up to a a long term extension. McDavid will be next. Their top six are the best top six forwards in the league. They need help on the right side of the defense where they'll be able to, because of the cap space they have. And they're in a great spot. So yeah, winning a cup is so difficult, but I don't see him not getting one. And this year, I think, is the year. Rumor boys. You said life or death, four years, like a four-year span.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Gun to your head. I would say they, yeah, I would say they would win one cup. That would be my guess, life or death. Okay, rumor boys. In the next four years. I heard that McDavid might not sign a long-term deal if they can't win the big one, and he wants to go play somewhere else. So many people have said that and continue to say that the big change in that topic is
Starting point is 01:56:47 that him and dry saddle are best friends. And Leon was up for an extension this year. He has one year left on his deal, but he can be resigned July 1st with one year left in the contract. So everyone's like, Oh, is Leon coming back? If he leaves, Connor's definitely leaving. He signed an eight year deal at 14 million year, highest paid player in the league. And now that's-
Starting point is 01:57:09 Biggest contract in history? The biggest contract. I don't know if it was bigger than Ovechkin's, right around there. So now the whole discussion is, in my opinion, and what Oilers fans are saying is they're so close, Leon's not re-signing if he doesn't know from Connor that he'll that he'll resign as well. All right. So question about that though, if he signed the biggest contract Connor, David, I assume is gonna sign a bigger contract. So he'll probably get 14 per I bet you're Connor's worth 16. So well he's worth about 30. But what happens to the Oilers cap though? Are they fucked? I think the cap is
Starting point is 01:57:41 gonna go up a significant amount each year to where that's why I said it might take year three or four Because if they don't win it next year all of a sudden you're gonna have that 14 on the books Luckily you get we have bugs in the office. Luckily you'd have one more year of Connor at a fair number But it'll get really difficult that following third year I would sign it if you got one guy making 16 and 14 and 30 million your cap and two players, oh god forbid one of them goes down during a run. That's just like, yeah that's catastrophic. I heard McDavid wanted to maybe go to LA play for the Kings. Oh where'd you hear that? Win some Stanley Cups there then maybe finish his career out in New York. Where'd you
Starting point is 01:58:21 hear that? That turtle they have. I made it up right now.. Oh, Wayne? I made it up, the Wayne Routh. I made it up right now, rumor boy. The Wayne Routh. There you go. So is there a possibility that he told Dry Cytl, like, hey, let them think that if they re-sign you, they are also gonna keep me, get as much money as you can because I'm your best friend.
Starting point is 01:58:37 But he would've got as much money as he wanted anywhere. Anywhere. So if Leon played this year, he probably would've, yeah, if not 14, it would have been even more for me So then I feel like Oilers fans should be feeling oilers once Leon resigned Yeah, giant sign of relief not just for him But the fact that I was saying that though if let's say Connor all of a sudden had a change of heart Leon has the power to probably just go to the organization if he doesn't want to be in Edmonton anymore and basically say I'm not
Starting point is 01:59:04 Coming here find a Way to move me and get what you can back in return. I love Canadian I love it what how you say organized I love it every time you say it that way. I love it I don't even know I had an organization organization. Yeah We've more say organization, I love how you say I'm being serious. I love when you say it It like kind of gets sounds like so hockey official. Yeah, it's just something about it. It's just like there. It's just more official when it's like the organization. Say regime regime. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 01:59:35 good too. It's almost French. The way you said are you about to when does your crazy like schedule start? Um, not next week, the week after. And then you're in Atlanta? I go to, yeah, I fly there I think on, yeah, Tuesday the 8th, so that'll be the opening day of NHL, and then Wednesday the 9th we start our broadcast and actually from there I'll be going to
Starting point is 01:59:58 Boston. We're gonna do some stuff in Boston with Pink Whitney. I think we're gonna get another Sandbagger, and then that following Tuesday it's back to- Can we do a Sandbagger with you guys? I would love to. With you two're gonna get another sandbagger. And then that following Tuesday, it's back to... Can we do a sandbag with you guys? With you two? We tried doing one with you guys, but you guys are tough to track down, boys.
Starting point is 02:00:11 If I'm a Bill Bowman, what's your handicap? Uh, a lot. I'm not very... You have to maybe do a scramble where I play with you and then you play with Whit or vice versa. I think if you did it honestly, I'd probably be like a 23. I think I'd be like a 45. Oh, no So we're not very you will play PFT in business in a surface and then Hank will just play in front of us And Hank will play 36 holes like yeah
Starting point is 02:00:36 He's got scouted. Yeah Location scout so so McDavid can win the big one. Can the can the not a big deal selects ever win the big one? Oh, tell everyone about it. This is our ball hockey team. Well Keith Yan knows a guest of yours. Tell me about ball hockey. We love Yan. I want to hear more about the format.
Starting point is 02:00:54 I want to hear about ball hockey because it looks insane. So it's very competitive and the arena is very small. The ones that they build at Chicklets Cup because we collab with this guy Brad Jones from Hockey Fest. So it just so happens the ball hockey rinks they have are small and it's three on three. So they're just the games get so physical and these guys take it so seriously and then of course because we put a team in a few professional teams started popping up and now I mean we get eight teams in the A division for
Starting point is 02:01:21 ball hockey. I want to to 16 teams, but yeah, we've done it five times. This is our first ever one in Canada we just did. We've never won our own ball hockey tournament and we bring in ringers. Are you in the A league? Yeah, they haven't even got to the final. Are you guys both playing?
Starting point is 02:01:39 Put it this way. No, he didn't even play this year. I played professional hockey 12 years, played in the NHL for five. I can't keep up with these guys from physical and running and just the amount of wear and tear over the course of playing three round Robin games and then two more semis and then finals.
Starting point is 02:01:56 I feel like I got in a car accident the next day. Yeah, there's real hits. Oh, at one point in this tournament, a guy got run over in the corner and as he's down and people are like, Pat Alte, another guy on that same team just was standing out like near the the back of the rink and just butt-ended the guy next to him which is just sticking the end of this, you stick out of the top end and just got him like in the
Starting point is 02:02:16 kidney. So it's vicious, it's full-on physical, like full-on checking, cross-checking, spearing, and the amount of like running back and forth it's Intense very intense like I got buddies. Well that leads to Yance. I got buddies who are like I put in a team I'm like this isn't street hockey This is like game seven of the cup final right but Yance is so sick and tired of hearing what the big deal selects and I'm Not winning that he's like I'm done with you guys. I'm putting a team wait, so is he on the big deal? No, never plays. He's won the social clips, and he's just like enough of you. They're just a lax the big deal They can't get out of the fucking semifinals so Yans
Starting point is 02:02:53 You're listening this right now if you need assistant coaches PFT and I are in for your team So he's gonna assemble a team next year. We're in I'm gonna suit yeah, we're in so that's why I take down We want to win your ball hockey tournament before you do. That's what we're going to do with the ends. Oh, no, we're assistant coaches of his team. If he'll accept us. Okay. So that's why I want to, I want to expand the 16. We're trying to get it done at the Calgary stampede, which would be unbelievable. Oh, that's the one where you put, you dress like a cowboy and get drunk for 10 days. Yes. would basically go we'll put them in our division and it's lose or go home So if they advance farther than us then then I'll never put the big deal selects
Starting point is 02:03:33 You know, we can my team is done. We can fold the team. Oh, yeah We're in never to be spoken again of again. I mean we can't run such a good system. Yeah, it doesn't matter Who's in goal for us. We'll just, yeah. So are you saying it's like Brock Purdy? Yeah, it's kind of like that. Like, because our defense? Yeah, we're kind of taking that Brock Purdy thing to hockey, which has never been done before.
Starting point is 02:03:54 OK. So you guys think if it's at the Calgary Stampede, you guys will be able to make it or just send players and end of June? No, fuck you, Max. End of June? OK, here's the deal. End of June could possibly work. No, here's. Okay. Here's the June could possibly work
Starting point is 02:04:07 Yeah, we're not I'm gonna max is right I'm gonna step back a little I'm gonna take a quick step back You're gonna be owner and funder. I'm gonna be we're gonna be owners and funders So you have to pay these guys you have to pay the ringers to fly in and maybe they're gonna ask for money I don't know much this is your guys are all in with flights and hotels for 10 grand each. That's kind of worth it if we put together a good team. If Hank doesn't dunk, we're in. We'll just take that money and use it. We can reinvest it.
Starting point is 02:04:33 And then the team to be named will be... Well, Yans involved too. He fucking made 70 million. Oh, Yans, yeah. He made 70 million. Listen, Yans, we will contribute to the team. We just want our name on the cup when we win the whole thing and the Big Deal Selects are crying and tired. So there's a villain called Noseface Killer and he already DM'd, he didn't show up this year,
Starting point is 02:04:57 he bailed last minute like the rat he is and he already DM'd saying it's time for you to join the dark side in a sense of bringing him into the Big deal selects. Not a chance, but I think Yans is going to pick up this nose. He was randomly Yans' stick boy at Cushing Academy when he was playing high school hockey. The kid's horrible looking. Wait, but is he bad at hockey?
Starting point is 02:05:18 No, he's unreal. Oh, he's in. I'm going to say right now, what's his name? Nose face killer. All right, he gets $1,000 out of my pocket to play. First tournament. And that has nothing to do with the money we're gonna put up otherwise.
Starting point is 02:05:30 1,000 bucks if he's on the team. I'll match. All right, 2,000 bucks if he's on the team. First time we saw him in Detroit, first tournament we did, Noseface in the casino. Oh yeah, God. He was like, barking ass, I'm gonna come here when you're ball hockey tournament.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Yeah, that's a man. That's how a man plays hockey. We're like, Rolensky from the Columbus Blue Jackets has a team with his buddies who all played hockey. Like you guys are gonna get dusted. And he came out and he fucking dummied them in the round robin game. And then Rolensky's team beefed up
Starting point is 02:05:54 and brought on some fighter guy and then they smoked him in the final. No, no, no. Noseface scored an overtime. Oh, yes! He scored the overtime. He's clutch, he's eating with the big one. And then a villain was born.
Starting point is 02:06:03 He's on our team. He's got the clutch scene That's the kind of guy that we want so I want I want to not only have your team folded I want you to sign over property intellectual property of the big deal selects to myself and big cat So we take over ownership of your team. Yes, and then we'll choose whether or not we want to play them again Tournament to the worst team. No, we're gonna take the big deal selects. We're no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want the same thing in return. I want all ownership rights. Fine. Of our brand new team that we don't care about. Yeah. I think Yans owns the team. I don't give a fuck. Sure. You're going to have to remind me when this happens.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Okay. Okay. You got a lot going on. We're all the way in though. Yeah, now I'm in. Now I'm in. I didn't know that Yans, when he listens, he's a listener. When he hears this, hit us up. You're getting a call. He let us know. I'm interested to hear his team name. Whatever the number. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Yeah. Listen, we're hands-off owners. We're just the, you know, we're the money Yeah. Yeah. Listen, we're hands off owners. We're just the money guys. Also, we're actually, also Yans is the money guy too. Yeah. Yans is also the money guy. And if MJ wants to contribute, I know they golf together, he can contribute as well. And you guys might be like, you guys are terrible owners. We've won a premier lacrosse league championships. So we are at least one time champion. You've won something we have Yeah, we did we lost them. They're around here somewhere. Swear to God we lost them Problem is we put all the rings together and we're like, alright
Starting point is 02:07:43 Like remember the rings are here and then we lost where they all were Then Max got involved in the next year. They finished second place. Yep How about that loser just a fact lose early guy? I would actually also like to have yeah max is free to be the Massive on assistant coach for the big deal selects. We want him on your team. Yes No, no, he could be the water boy. Sure. great. I ever want a thing. Oh, okay stick boy There's any I've won. I've won. You give me stick boys. Well, you know what? He's one he's one. That's true. I was listening to the most recent episode spit and shake. Let's I'm a fan And there was a story that you guys kind of danced around that
Starting point is 02:08:18 I thought maybe you'd like to share with us because I didn't know this but apparently Biz your sister is married to a guy named Paul. Oh my god. Oh no. Yeah. Let's just let's just preface this with I ran into Biz's sister at the ball hockey tournament and she's so nice so friendly talkative and where she always brings up the story. Like can you not talk about the Paul's and I was like yeah no problem I won't. And then she's like, and by the way, you've never met. Here's my husband Paul, she married a Paul.
Starting point is 02:08:49 Yeah. So Biz was the one that first told this on Chicklets. Yeah, and then I went over to my parents' house for brunch one day and she was staying there with Paul, the husband, and brunch was ready. Hey, can you go upstairs and get Nat? And I knocked and it was like, yeah. And I opened the door assuming like, yeah, like,
Starting point is 02:09:10 like can he just come in and international sign for come in. Yeah. And I walk in and Paul is just plowing my sister. Right before, right before French toast and eggs and bacon. Oh no. Just going to the woodshed on Natalie just give her the Reebok earrings good old Paul Left brunch I Didn't I grabbed the quick strip of bacon and I was out of there
Starting point is 02:09:36 And then he just started yeah, I saw That was good. Yeah, you gotta find you you gotta find your sister just her name somewhere Uh-huh, and then just trick her walking in I met a girl Natalie once that I like but I just I couldn't get over the hump I was like, let's stop this before it gets serious now Paul her ex Paul is with that Natalie so it all works What's even crazier is I went on a few dates this summer? Cuz one of my buddies that interests me to a girl and I Took a leg into her but she had the same name as my father, which is Camille
Starting point is 02:10:12 C-a-m-i-l-l-e so I was like I told you right? Yeah, so I was like Jesus It'd be a little weird if I bring home Camille to meet Camille and yeah Paul's there with Natalie Camille and Paul's there with Natalie and Paul comes in. And then just this orgy starts. Like, yo, it's just too much. I don't think I could do it. You guys got to dress up together. I think there were a couple of Pauls. You know what's even crazier?
Starting point is 02:10:32 Yeah. She dated another Paul when she was in high school. She's got a type? What? So she's in love with you. Dude, your sister's in love with you. She never wants this to be talked about. Your sister is in love with you. Your sister never wants this to be talked about. Your sister is in love with you.
Starting point is 02:10:46 You said you couldn't date a girl named her name, but she has no problem whatsoever. Like she does not have that block. Well he's trying to stop this. It's like the incest couple. It's like at one point there's one kid that's like, we gotta end this. Holy shit. Your sister loves you. A lot. More than loves.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Big time loves. You're an asshole. She's just finding Paul's like the Paul's left and right you guys are very close it's a deal break so no no like when you put in like what you want in the dating app she's right only Paul's only so when she's gonna kill me when she said she's gonna kill me when she said you might divorce her now What are you gonna do with that? Go down the local constructions Have you ever introduced her to gas no, okay, it's all way stay away no, she doesn't like bald Paul's
Starting point is 02:11:43 Okay, well, he's not bald. He just wears a hat. Oh, yeah So you don't know that true very true Paul's really gases rip. Oh, yeah Friday okay. Yeah, I'm gonna be getting a text Saturday morning. Okay, no one's gonna hear this No, but no one listens to this show All right final thoughts Rollback question rhob a CK comm promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts Rollback comm promo code take since this isn't the hockey preview give us your World Series winner
Starting point is 02:12:18 This is gonna be fun one of those something crazy, oh I do that's not that was way like overly hyped it's not about the socks right the socks are brutal aren't they do you remember when I came on the show and you guys relentlessly tortured me for saying McDavid was better at his sport than anyone else in the world was it their sport yeah but he doesn't I've now switched it to Otani and I'm like obsessed with watching this guy might be if you don't watch my football. It might be Travis Hunter. Oh, yeah Really, dude, there's a college player. Is that good? Yeah, he plays wide receiver and cornerback
Starting point is 02:12:55 He played 144 snaps the other night for who for Colorado and he went to Dion's first school That was I believe like all-black school. Yeah Yeah number one recruit in the nation had never committed to an HBS He went to Deion's first school that was, I believe, like, all-black school. Yeah, it was HBCU. Yeah. Number one recruit in the nation had never committed to an HBCU. He went there to follow Deion, and then Deion went to Colorado and he followed him there. And he still has to play one more year of college. No, I think he'd come out this year. This is second year of Colorado, so third year.
Starting point is 02:13:20 So he'll be, not the first pick, like, because you don't- He might not be the first pick cuz they know wide receivers I don't know what he's gonna play cuz he you can make the case. He's wide receiver one and cornerback one Yeah, he's the best cornerback by far in college football Yeah, and he's definitely he's probably top three or four wide receivers so you you know I guess it's similar to Otani that like never again did people think like somebody would come in and be an elite pitcher and Bat and be unreal he's done that nobody's done Consistently offense and defense in the NFL. Like maybe he'll be the guy that does it. It's it's
Starting point is 02:13:51 Yeah, I think the most remarkable part about it I would assume that what 75% of people listening assume that he was Like like that the gambling stuff was in fact him what? Show it. He's never done a thing wrong. I think yeah, I don't think we know the full story yet that the gambling stuff was in fact him. What? Travis Hunter? Oh, Shohei? Shohei. Travis Hunter's never done a thing wrong. I think, yeah, I don't think we know the full story yet. But we were saying it's probably fair to assume
Starting point is 02:14:14 that he might have known what was going on. I've actually been on the side of I've thought he was innocent, and the only reason I thought this was because I think people underrated the fact that he's in a foreign country, And the only reason I thought this was because I think people underrated the fact that He was in a he's in a foreign country doesn't speak the language and his only lifeline to the outside world was this Interpreter and so I think the interpreter like that's a prime Like if he was if he was a native English speaker I like and he had a best friend
Starting point is 02:14:42 I'm like this is bullshit like I knew what was going on I just think that that interpreter was able to keep a lot of stuff and I'm not even good at checking my finances And if you have that much money like is he ever looked at? That he was involved He's easily the goat because the fact that he could do what he's doing now with that on his conscious sweating out like a 17 Parlay, yeah my number Yeah now with that on his conscience sweating out like a 17 parlay yeah my number yeah think about that if he was doing that and all that was breaking and you're going into this season and still with probably being under a microscope
Starting point is 02:15:11 of people trying to dig that up and you do what he's doing now yeah the goat they would also tell you how good he was at baseball if the MLB commissioner was actually like yeah we know it was you but we're not gonna punish you that's what I was gonna say that if even if this guy was caught in a casino Stealing people's chips like MLB like sweep this under the rug The biggest signing ever the biggest global superstar they've ever had But we were I was listening to a part of great hockey podcast we both listened to Elliot Friedman has a show 32 thoughts He's the number one insider in the game. So it's way different than ours because you know. It's legit.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Yeah, it's legit. You guys are insiders. So he was talking about Otani and what he accomplished this year. And they were, him and his co-hosts were talking about what it would be in the NHL to do that, the 50 and 50. They said it's 100 goals, 100 assists. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:16:00 Which has obviously never been done. Well it'd be like 100 goals and 100 saves. No, I think it would be. Yeah, well goals and hundred saves. No, I think it would be 40 if you did well, I guess it would be 40 wins would probably be what a goalie is good at 40 wins hundred He is not pitching this year, which I might change it cuz he would have played less game But this is the most incredible like I watch hey, we're about to finish To finish Bye guys love you Like I watch hey, we're about to finish. I'm gonna piss my pants. We're about to finish. I'm about to piss my pants. We're about to finish. Say goodbye then. Bye guys. Love you. Love you too Biz.
Starting point is 02:16:28 I just watched these Dodgers games now like he played he had a I think it was a walk-off against the Red Sox earlier in the It's just it's unbelievable. And then he's that big and that fast. I yeah, it's it's it's not insane watching this guy That was a wild move by Biz. That's us. That's a Biz move. I've never seen that happen before. That was a wild move by biz That's us. That's a business Move pop is that I just did my last We'll be mid interview on zoom and he just gets up and just got a hose Did you even ask the question? I asked the last question then he just he knew that it was about to end He thought it was not a great question. So he was the question. Yeah, what was the question? I don't know but now we have a disaster brewing go ahead what's up you got it yeah yeah join the couch I gotta eat sit down the couch sir yes he's awesome
Starting point is 02:17:16 isn't it all right wait talk talk in the mics talking the mic. Thank you. We love you. We're in we're doing an interview I was just saying we're doing the interview, but yeah, I know I'm I interrupting no Already got up to piss yeah, you didn't uh you didn't text me back. Sorry I was busy Stu. I was busy. I was recording a bunch of stuff all day today. Totally. I knew that Stu was up to something today because I got like five texts from him telling me how many joints he had and I was busy. I could not smoke.
Starting point is 02:17:56 Oh you brought them back. I could not smoke all day today so that's why. Stu's very high right now. Yeah very high. Give some to Hank. Okay. Some to you. It's legal. It's a hundred some legal So I bought it legally. It's legal. Okay, um some time some to you couple to Megan. I'm not giving I don't need any
Starting point is 02:18:14 Okay, I would love some Stu Stu Stu asked the other day to take my kids to the zoo And the aquarium. Yeah, and I was like Stu that they go to school Although Stu all right you guys all right all right. Thank you Stu finer. Yeah Anything significant you want to know that was it we love having you on all right thank you Stu thanks to those two finer oh thank you just handing them a bunch of weed all right he's giving me a kiss don't spill the thing the chicklets guys were brought to you by Coors Light there's no sports experience quite like the rivalries between college football teams and now on Saturdays you can get even closer to the action with Coors Light and DraftKings. Coors Light teamed up with DraftKings for the free to play college football pick and pool where you can pick winners for a chance to win big.
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Starting point is 02:20:19 Spiders. Back. No. No. It's a war. Oh no. And I'm losing. Oh No, it's a war. Oh no, and I'm losing. Oh No, wait, are they but it's about to be that's the problem. Oh, they're trying to get inside Yeah, they can feel the winter the the the winds changing and there's
Starting point is 02:20:40 My issue is that I can clear them off of my balcony But there's windows on the side. I probably I've already said this last time we talked about this But they I can't get to all of them So there's ones that are alive that I think when I take out all their friends they come in and try and get revenge Oh, yeah spider bite earlier this week. You did you probably swallowed a couple definitely Yeah, have you thought about getting one of those long vacuum cleaners on a stick like the long tube one so you can yeah Gary what's the um what's the magic reaching around that corner? Yeah? Yeah? What's the what's the stat like everyone swallows at least eight spiders in there?
Starting point is 02:21:15 Yeah, that was used to be in like our school agendas or whatever. Yeah, I was like one of those like remember You know I'm talking about it was in your school agenda that you saw a time No, that school every I like every they'd give you an agenda where you're supposed to like keep your schedule and shit? Yeah. Oh and it had little trivia facts? It had little fun facts every month. That's not true. I don't remember this but I'm gonna take your word for it. I promise you and I promise you, you guys are old but I promise you there's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of 8-o-boes who know exactly what I'm talking about. There was 12 fun facts or whatever in each one per month and that was always one But this is not true you fall you swallow 13 spiders a year. It's not true. Not a year. Yes
Starting point is 02:21:53 There's no chance. Yes also in the agenda do I'm pretty sure that this is all right. What does it say? We reality however is quite different. We swallow no spiders at all. Yeah, there's no two used to think you spider How many how many spiders in? No, it's eight the belief that we swallow an average of eight spiders in our sleep every year has become so ingrained in popular Colors of our school agendas is in fact I also just always assumed when they said an average like a human swells an average of eight spiders a year It was just like one dude in Australia eating thousands of spiders that actually could bring it up yeah but i i don't think that spiders are so dumb that
Starting point is 02:22:30 they would crawl into your mouth no they're smart as fuck yeah so they're not gonna i think they like i think that's what i'm saying like i get concerned about revenge like it's it yeah they're coming for you that's a problem it is is a problem. You should just move Depends we'll see how this winter goes when it's coming when it's coming. All right PFT. I mean, I don't really have a firefest this week It's more of a fi re fest because I've had a very good week Oh, I've had an excellent week this week And so I guess my fire fest is I just think about Jaden all the time nice just all the time I was thinking about him earlier tonight. I was watching the game. I was like man football is so unwatchable watchable when Jayden's not playing yeah It's definitely not gonna come back to bite me
Starting point is 02:23:11 No, like I'm not setting myself for any sort of disappointment down the line by saying this We have I've had a pretty good week I guess the exception would be I had to get some stitches out and this was oh where this is last Friday I had to get some stitches out in Austin Oh, this stitches were in Austin. Yeah, I got the stitches out in Austin No, okay So what happened was when I had the procedure I had a it was like a small line across the very back of my head And they had to stitch it up together, so I had stitches I went into
Starting point is 02:23:42 The doctor's office my doctor in in Boston that gave me the new hair stuff, or excuse me, moved my own hair around on my head. Told me, yeah, you can go into any like Minute Clinic, any urgent care and just ask them, take stitches out. They all know how to take stitches out. So I go in there and the doctor sits me down and she looks at the back of my head and she goes, oh my God. And I was like, excuse me?
Starting point is 02:24:04 And she's like, oh no, it's nothing. I just haven't seen stitches like this before. I was like, oh my god. And I was like, excuse me? And she's like, oh no, it's nothing. I just haven't seen stitches like this before. I was like, oh okay. And then she starts going around back in my head and she goes, oh my god. Again, I'm like, what is that? And she was like, oh no, I'm just confused. And she kept saying oh my god and I kept thinking like, is this infected? Do I have like spiders crawling out of it, Hank?
Starting point is 02:24:22 Like the oh my god reactions were just insane. I was starting starting to get worried and I was thinking is she actually a doctor? Like she's a doctor so I ended up calling my doctor in Boston, and I was like hey. She's a little confused She's wondering if maybe these are just absorbable stitches So she doesn't have to take them out and the guys like absolutely not you need to take them out right now Oh shit, and he's trying to like walk her through it he's like no it's just one stitch that goes back and forth a few times and then there's a knot at each end and she was like I don't understand what you're saying she had no idea what my doctor was talking about. You didn't see a doctor. And she kept trying she was having me reach around the back of my head
Starting point is 02:25:00 holding a flashlight on the back of my head and And then she would get mad at me when I, when the flashlight drifted a little bit. I was like, I don't know. I can't see the back of my own head. So we do this for another 20 minutes. Then she asked me to call my doctor again because she's still confused. And she's like, yeah, I don't know how to take these out. And eventually my doctor had to be like, Hey PFT, are you still in the room right now? And I'm like, yeah, I'm on speaker. He was like, I want to say this as diplomatically
Starting point is 02:25:26 and professionally as possible. You might want to consider a different clinician to have this procedure done. So after about 45 minutes of her just slicing into the back of my head, I had to stop her and say, OK, I think you're uncomfortable with this. And that's making me uncomfortable, so I'm going to go.
Starting point is 02:25:44 Then she goes out, grabs a different doctor to come in. She's like, wait here just one second. The doctor looks at him. He's like, yeah, these are just stitches. And she's like, can you take them out? He's like, well, I'm with a patient right now, so I can't really take 10 minutes out. And she's like, maybe on your lunch break you can do it.
Starting point is 02:25:59 And this doctor's uncomfortable too. And he's like, yeah, I guess I can do it on my lunch break. And she was like, maybe I could watch so I could learn. And he's like, Yeah, I guess I can do it on my lunch break. And she was like, maybe I could watch so I could learn. And he's like, Yeah, maybe. So she's like, Okay, just come back in like 45 minutes and we'll take him out. And I was like, Okay, bye. I go to the front desk and I said, Hey, just tell her I'm not coming back. I'm leaving and I just got the fuck out of there. And then shit, then I ended up actually getting it done here in Chicago once I got back.
Starting point is 02:26:25 And it took about seven minutes. Oh my God. So I don't think the person, I think it was a catch me if you can situation where in her wildest dreams, she's pretending to be an urgent care doctor. Sisters can't be that difficult. They're not. Yeah. They're not.
Starting point is 02:26:41 But for a while they were. So just listen to yourself. If you think maybe I shouldn't be in this situation. But then again, she had like all these tools in the back of my head and I didn't want to just stand up and leave. Yeah, that's a hell of a situation. But besides that, doing good.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Yeah, I got Jayden. Yeah, you got Jayden. And the stitches out of your head. Yep. All right, I was actually a seam head for a while. Yeah, my Fire Fest is quick. It's Derek Rose retired today. And that made me feel old and sad again
Starting point is 02:27:09 for Derek Rose career. Yeah, that made me feel old. Yeah, I saw that. And I thought that Derek Rose had already retired. Yeah, a lot of people did. Because I think it was one of those rumors that the Dunk Sintel Yeah, would tweet out yes every six months like Derrick Rose has retired. Yeah. So I got the exposure to that.
Starting point is 02:27:28 So in the back of my head, I thought like maybe Derrick Rose has already been retired. But yeah, it doesn't, it's not right. It's not right what happened to Derrick Rose. No, it's the all time what if. But yeah, it was like he was so so electric Before he got injured and then injured again and then injured again, but yeah, it's it's a what-if and it's also a damn We're getting old. Yeah, Hank. I'm sure you appreciate that They were getting old. I don't appreciate that. That means I'm getting old. Yeah true. That's how time works memes
Starting point is 02:28:02 You got a fire fest for us getting on. True. That's how time works. Memes, you got a fire fest for us? My fire fest is if everybody hates the art we just put out in the interview and I ordered some jet ski to my house on Long Island. Oh, that's tough. Wait, it's everybody don't want to pay our editor enough money. What? Oh, yeah. Memes is low balling our editor. Do you see this? No, I saw. Yeah. what? There was a job a job listing kind of viral for part of my take assistant editor entry level and I think the pay was like
Starting point is 02:28:33 65,000 a year wait people were roasting us well one time I tried to roast us he posted the listing which is just like a regular entry level editor position Which by the way, like I think I got paid no money and then $20,000 for like three years and he goes like 60k for one of the for a billion dollar company as if how much money barcelona yeah what the fuck do with how much an editor should make yeah barstool is worth one dollar yeah yeah and then there was a lot of people being like this looks like actually like pretty good pretty good job
Starting point is 02:29:05 Listen, yeah, what was not like the parcel's worth a dollar like how about so did he get roasted back single corporation? Yeah, you got because Even like his friends online were like that's not a bad salary for an entry-level spot and also yeah you get the value of a company somebody made the the comparison to like, you know How much McDonald's pays their employees? Yeah, or yeah like Walmart And usher at Jerry's World. Yeah Dallas Cowboys employee. Yeah, they get paid what yeah a fucking Team worth ten billion dollars. Yeah, but I think that's it from what I saw. That's a pretty fair
Starting point is 02:29:46 Yeah, it's entry level fair pay right for that position and You if you do a job you get paid more. What's meme saying? It's kind of how it works. I'm not sure Yeah, it's fair it's fair pug oh, I mean you can't disagree with pug this fucking guy Brandon fuck you dude You're gonna go against pug get out of here, dude Yeah Love it pug all right numbers Max is at another wedding Pft and memes have you ever gotten this no I?
Starting point is 02:30:19 Did numbers I have jayden five Wednesday. I never got it three Let's go 1. D-Rose. Let's go 20. 99 Pug. I have a feeling it's gonna be 99. This feels like a pug moment. 77. 77. love you guys. So Music playing So So So Thanks for watching!

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