Pardon My Take - NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Are The Dolphins Frauds? Ravens Demolish Lions, Playoff Baseball And More

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

NFL Week 7 and we start with Fastest 2 minutes. we then talk about every game from Sunday. (00:00:00-00:09:33) Ravens 38, Lions 6 (00:09:33-00:24:24) Patriots 29, Bills 25 (00:24:24-00:36:22) Brow...ns 39, Colts 38 (00:36:22-00:46:00) Giants 14, Commanders 7 (00:46:00-00:53:04) Falcons 16, Bucs 13 (00:53:04-01:03:15) Bears 30, Raiders 12 (01:03:15-01:12:13) Seahawks 20, Cardinals 10 (01:12:13-01:17:49) Steelers 24, Rams 17 (01:17:49-01:28:28) Broncos 19, Packers 17 (01:28:28-01:32:11) Chiefs 31, Chargers 17 (01:32:11-01:40:30) Dolphins 17, Eagles 31 (01:40:30-01:51:30) we finish with who's back of the week and talk some playoff baseball (01:51:30-02:15:18)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take week seven in the NFL, we're going to recap every single game from Sunday. Do some fastest two minutes. Who's back at the week? A great Monday recap, as as always from the boys.
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Starting point is 00:02:03 Oh we're gonna rock it down too. It's part of my take. There's an about horse to a sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Monday, October 23rd and week 7. What's 7 and Spanish? Yes, does she have to? Week 7 What seven and Spanish yes, that's yeah, today I almost had it. Yeah, I brain blocked up there for a second teach Oh no ghost right? We started Baltimore where sorry, Miss Lamar Jackson these Ravens are for real never meant to make ten Campbell cry These Ravens are for real, never meant to make them Campbell cry, the Lions played like they were on a buy. Mark Andrews Bogot went sky high for his first of two scores as a Gus Bus ran all over Detroit. As for the cowardly Lions, we're not in the doughmending more as they try to click their shoes
Starting point is 00:02:58 to make a touchdown appear, but left Baltimore muttering, S-O-L, as these same old lions smell like poo poo poo, the Ravens kill the lions 38, 6, and it wasn't even that close. Swap, whew! We go to Indy where Gardner, two and a half menchew and Jonathan Taylor, Thomas, had the laugh tracks going in the first quarter as the Colts jumped out to an early lead, and as De Chancé billups Watson and his fearsome D got hurt, it was time for a PJ Walker Texas Ranger to step in and give his teams a much needed aid zone offense. There might be a little dust in the bottle, Hopkins got sweeter with time, making a 50
Starting point is 00:03:39 yarder in his last five games consecutively. But the Colts fat back and their protection was lacking as Karim Pihont finished in the end zone after a false flag giving the Browns a win. 39. 30. What? What? In Foxboro where it's always darkest before dawn, especially when you have a lighthouse to show you the way, Bill Bellichek, my good personal friend, notches his 300th win and a contract extension. Someday. Someday. Big Mac Jones found his special sauce with game-winning touchdown drive to Mike Gassassimi-Bun. Because it was such a big win, we kick it to our producer and diehard Patriots fan Hank Lockwood for comment.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, shit. I think he's on a vacation again, teach. He stepped out, boom. Oh, he's on vacation. Bill, Bill's coach, Sean McDermott's was seen drinking Apple juice post game. His bill bellicac little boy does team Sunday afternoon and no one circles the wagons like the lighthouse patriots Patriots 29 bills 25 Hank oh No, no, no, he's not here That's his y'all boom. I can fuck that y'all from anyways Up to the middlelands we go where Bong Rivera looked very green as he got lit up by Brian Aitball. Say, Qua-an-me, say, Qua-an-me, Barkley had his aha moment and some cool-looking draws. Well, Terry D'Actel McClure looked extinct for the first half.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I got a touching tribute to my good friend, Rieke, from Game of Thrones. With Ty Rodlin, Altaylor, and Sam Throw in the Hell, it was a game of sacks. Dern, Revelle Waller caught over six pieces of merchandise from the first African American quarterback to ever win a game for the New York football giants. Judge win 14 seven. And the windy city with the graders versus the hairs as Dante just for men,
Starting point is 00:05:41 save Chicago Chicago from dying. Spiler secret, Bage and man, snuck up underneath Josh Ritannials, as he's no longer to see past his two chins. Come, Jail Away, come, Jail Away, come, Jail in a way with me.
Starting point is 00:05:56 As Jail and Johnson said, look at me, look at me, I'm the captain now. To the Raiders after his second pick was returned for his score. Every drive was a hard drive for Hunter Biden, Renfrowrow as he looked like a baseball player going for a walk, taking a free base, and the Raiders are showing their cracks. Oh, the Bears pack? Some out looking like it was a wrap, but then got poked. Michael Jackson, my home, said,
Starting point is 00:06:34 I'll be there anytime Taylor Swift is on screen, and Justin Herbert picks are inevitable, as the giant sadness goes to infinity and beyond continuing to be a collection of unsurrious toys owned by Andy. The Chiefs 31, the San Diego Super Chargers 17, out west where the Steelers D double cuffed as George Slippins dominated and Jay Leane Warrin walked into the end zone. Tutu Pock, I have well, put the Rams ahead, but TJ in the city of good old Watts showed some California love to Stafford. Cratt, Creteling is football to the goal line
Starting point is 00:07:13 in a game-changing play. Are the Steelers good? Or the Rams bad? Whap! Steelers 24, Rams 17. We go up to Mauhai where Cortland, something about Mary could only look on as Jerry Judy got hit in his veins and his Frank.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Can anybody find Jordan somebody to love was under pressure? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da As the Packers looked like they wished there were back in training camp riding their bicycles as Russ finally cooked after pleading with the Broncos that he wants to break free. Late in the fourth quarter Broncos kicker will, duh, duh, duh, another one bites the luffs, hit the game where sending the packers home. The Broncos 19, the Packers 17. This happened on Thursday night, but we need to sing a song for a good friend, James, and his sings.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Standing on a corner, James Winston down in Nola, signs to find sight to see. It's a Jags My Lord, Hidden that's my Lord, Carsti Taking shots to his PP, Come on Dennis, Stopping a manness If the Jags don't make the Super Bowl, Prisco is finished Jags 31, Saints 24 And that is the fastest two minutes week seven brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a new family with unstoppable grit and they're the official partners of the part of my take family.
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Starting point is 00:09:40 and the family of Chevy ZR2, the official trucks, apart my take. Okay, week seven in the books. We are recording during the first half of the Dolphins Eagles game. We will get to all of that later. Max is actually watching the game on stream. Also, Hank is not here, which is very unfortunate. It's a Patriots won a game. It's awful. I really wish that Hank was here.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, we have some good stats for Hank, otherwise. But let's get into the games. What a great Sunday. And let's start with what was supposed to be the premiere early game and was a coronation of the Ravens being very much for real. Ravens 38, lion six. I like to say this was a shit pumping is actually wrong because it was something more than that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I think it was ass kicking. It was such a blowout by the Ravens. The lions didn't get their first first down until the Ravens were up 28 to nothing. And we'll start with the Ravens because they deserve all the credit here. It felt like this was maybe, and maybe we look back at this and they're like, that was stupid. This may be the week that Todd Monkins offense finally clicked for Lamar and the Ravens because they sliced and diced the lion's secondary Lamar was MVP Lamar.
Starting point is 00:11:01 That was MVP Lamar that we saw today. Not even running the ball. He didn't even run the ball that much. He stayed in the pocket like waited for everything to progress. Was hitting everyone's a flowers, you know, is phenomenal. Uh, big play after big play after big play. Lamar finished 21 for 27, 357 yards, three touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. And the Ravens. Remember we're saying this the other day, like if the Ravens could ever figure out that step on the throat mentality, they could be a true Super Bowl contender.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And this was the first game where it's like, they went, you know, playing against a very good Lions team and completely obliterated. So as I said on Friday, I could see the Lions blowing out the Ravens. I can't see a world where the Ravens blew out the Lions. News flash, I'm dumb as shit. I got this one very wrong. You know what? It's extremely wrong. It's better than what I did where I basically made a ton of points for why the Ravens would win and then bet on the Lions. Yeah, I was like the Lions secondary
Starting point is 00:11:57 hasn't been tested. This could be a big mismatch for them, made all these points. And then when I made the bet, I put in the Lions and then I felt like the biggest dummy in the world. Your brain was right, your balls were wrong. Right. Right. So often happens with us, but yeah, it was, it was an asking and the lines just like straight up could not compete with the Ravens today on offense. Lamar had one of the best games of his entire career and I didn't realize this.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Did you know that Lamar is 16 and one against the NFC? You know what? He doesn't lose against the NFC. There is a theory that NFC teams don't because they'd never see it. Yeah. They see them once every four years that they don't fully know how to play defense against it. Whereas, AFC teams have seen it multiple times, especially in division. So I guess I kind of prescribed to that theory. Yeah, I prescribed to it. I'm going to take Lamar against the NFC for the rest of my life. I've already heard that stat.
Starting point is 00:12:47 It was also the first home game for the Ravens in like a month, a full month since the Cold Sloth. I always feel like that provides extra juice when the fans haven't seen you at home for a long time. They're ready, they're ready to go. They have the purple, black, white, gray camel pants out in full force. Yeah, sugar, sugar was there.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, it was a beautiful day. And yeah, it was. It was a beautiful day. And yeah, it was, it was just straight up and asking. Did you see Todd Munkin up in the booth when he was, he hates fist pounds. He hates them. Yeah, like the guys on each side of them, they were trying to fist bump them. And he just slapped their hands with his open. He was like, no, we do high fives. We do high fives up in this booth.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But everything, everything came together for the Ravens Day. I have a question for you about Ravens. So not to overreact, but this is the whole show as we overreact. And we don't know what's going to happen with this Eagles Dolphins game. But would it be fair to say the Ravens might be the second or third best team, the AFC behind the chiefs? Like right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. I mean, the Jags obviously are also five and two. The bills will get to them have taken a step back. The dolphins are playing the Eagles right now. Again, we won't we don't know, but like they are, they're five and two, the bills will get to them have taken a step back. The dolphins are playing the Eagles right now. Again, we won't we don't know, but like they are, they're five and two through through the beginning of the year. They have that weird, fluky loss to the Colts and who is the other game? They'll, oh, they lost the, the game to the Steelers, where everyone dropped a pass. I feel like the Ravens like have kind of shown themselves
Starting point is 00:14:04 that they're going to be there late in the year. If the Super Bowl were today, the Ravens would win it. I think they're a Super Bowl winner of the week because the 49ers play Monday. So make no mistake. This was just a straight up ass kicking ass kick. There's no spin zone that you can do a few to the lines to say, like, hey, maybe this wasn't that bad. It was bad. It was, it was, it was probably worse than you think as it could have been worse. But one silver one, I know if it could have been worse, but one silver one. I know if it could have been worse. I think he could have I think they slowed down. They
Starting point is 00:14:29 kind of slowed down a little bit. But even the second half they had that like 80 yard pass to Gus. Yeah. And like that that was right when they could have slowed down. It was like it was a little bit of a broken play. Do you see the Lions were still trying to score at the end and they could. Yeah. Jameson had like I think three drops one hit him right in the face. Yeah, you could hear Max screaming in the background. He was he was very bad today. The whole like just in general for the lines. You played like crap today, but the silver lining might be that in 1991, did you know
Starting point is 00:14:57 that the lines start out five and two? Yes. And five and one. They were five and two. Well, there's just like they are now. They were five and one going into their week seven game. Right. So the last time they were five and two, they had a 32 point loss to make them five and two,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and they went on to win the division. Yeah, they want to play off game that year. Staple has to stop sending us both the stats. Yeah, yeah. Just pick one of us. So you can trade back and forth, but he sent me that stat too. So, um, but yeah, I actually, and it weird spins on like this. I think Dan Campbell said something
Starting point is 00:15:30 like this after the game, like we probably needed a loss like this. So yeah, it would, I mean, this is a very difficult ball, like throw out the tape. It, you can make the argument a, a one point loss and a 32 point loss of the same thing. But you also could make the argument, uh, uh, one point loss and a 32 point loss of the same thing. But you also can make the argument. The lions have beaten some, you know, their week one Kansas city win is very, very impressive. Their packers win is looking worse and we're doing BCS computer. The packers win is looking worse by the week. Yep. Uh, they, they killed the Panthers, they killed the Falcons and they lost the Seahawks. I, if you're a Lions fan, there's definitely like a, ooh, this was, cause you know, if you had lost in a competitive game, you're like, ah, well, road game, Lamar played great. This wasn't a competitive game in any stretch of the imagination.
Starting point is 00:16:21 No, Lamar had his way with you big time today. This is some big time, like pour some cold water on the Lions and the Lions fans of like, maybe a reality check real quick. It's also a very tough day for the Lamar haters out there that say that he can't throw the ball. It's, he was, he was wheeling, dealing. Patrick Picard had the coolest reception of the day.
Starting point is 00:16:39 He had like a 24-yard gain, and he's just like a 305 pound dude panicking because he's never seen that much daylight in front of him. Yup. As he runs down field, Mark Andrews had a great day too. Zay flowers is a very big problem. The light that's the difference. The Ravens have weapons now and their defense is really fucking good.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. Like Rhoquan is the perfect Raven even though he actually has beaten the Steelers. I don't know why we keep saying that someone has corrected me, but he, I don't know what his record maybe he hasn't actually. He's, he might have won win. He might have won win, but he might be one and two against Steelers. So he's got to beat him again. You have to have a winning record against Steelers to be a Raven. Put the Ravens defenses in, they're getting healthier,
Starting point is 00:17:17 which is actually kind of a cheat code by the Ravens. To start the season with all the injuries, because then there's no way to go, but getting healthier. What happens is you get a bunch of starters injured in like week one, week two, and then it takes a couple of weeks for your backups to get enough reps with the first team, and then they start playing like their first teamers. Also, it's like making a couple big splashes at the deadline. Yeah, they just added some key pieces. Yes, they're going to get a bunch of players back. They're the most active trade deadline team.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So, this was a Greg Olson game today, right? We love Greg Olson, the current guest, great tight end, great looking guy. He's got it all, except for a nice coat to wear on television. So, he took a risk. It didn't work. It looked like he sliced up a couch with a butcher's knife and then just draped it on his shoulders like a risk. It didn't work. It looked like he sliced up a couch with a butcher's knife
Starting point is 00:18:07 and then just draped it on his shoulders like a cape. Well, the problem is, I think I have that same coat and I wear it for barstool sports devices when I'm intentionally trying to look as bad as possible. It was like, it was like felt. It really looked like he didn't bring a coat and then he saw the curtains in his hotel room this morning. He was like, you know what? I'll just put these on. Nobody will notice.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I know, like you said, Greg's a friend. And you know, you have to tell your friends when they wear a fucking God awful coat that makes you want to poke your eyes out. You have to. I think otherwise you're not a good friend. Right. Like you have to tell your friend when he wears something that's so embarrassing, you wonder if he should even have the job anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You have to say these things. Burn that coat and whoever told you that was a good coat unless you're wife, then I've to take all this back. But I think it was like some new age, you know, fashion guy tried to tell him this and Greg Olson, let's be honest. Greg Olson's a great looking dude. He's like, he's basically a mannequin in terms of looks where everything would look good on him. So guys like that can take risks. This risk failed.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He looked like he was in like a Barbie cinematic universe where he was playing Ken, but if Ken was like a really shitty used car sales, yeah, that's it was like made out of Velcro. So Greg, listen, I actually like the fact that Greg Olson is wearing terrible clothes on TV because otherwise it's not fair. Yes, that's true. He looked like if he was in a Bond movie and he was playing Blackjack next to Bond and then it was like a foreshadowing of Bond
Starting point is 00:19:38 having to realize it two hours later as a movie progresses like, what was that coat? Yeah. Who could forget that awful coat? Yeah. And then you have like a call back scene. Yeah, he was up to something. It was a national tight end date.
Starting point is 00:19:50 We're not gonna make a thing about the coat. No, there was a terrible, terrible coat. Yeah, we're not gonna, we're not gonna make it a big thing, but burn the coat, burn whoever gave you the coat, um, uh, start over. Just wear a t-shirt. You look hot in a t-shirt, dude. You're hot, dude. You could pull off just t-shirt, dude. You're a hot dude.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You could pull off just about anything in the world except for that coat. Yeah. Almost respect. Like he found the one thing that made Greg Olson look not super, super handsome. Yeah, it was like it was basically a challenge unlocked. Can you make Greg Olson look bad? He did it. Good job Greg. Yeah, but he's calling a game every week, so he's got to have a No, no, no, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake got to have it. No, no, no, Jake, Jake, the moment you get a package to call a season long, like you got him go shopping. Jake got to vary it up. It doesn't matter if you just wear a regular coat. No one says boo. Yeah, that's fair. He was taking a shot. He was trying. He was feeling himself. National Titans, they like you said, like he was feeling himself and it blew up in his face. It is what it is. It's fine. Listen, great. He's going to come back. I'm sure he'll have some heat next week.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He'll look great and everybody be like, oh, would it would an awesome guy? Greg Olson is. It's fine. Listen, great. He's going to come back. I'm sure he'll have some heat next week. He'll look great and everybody will be like, oh, what an awesome guy Greg Olson is. He looks awesome on television. But we'll always have this one week. For this one week, Greg Olson appeared human. Much like the Lions, it's one week and it's how you respond to the bad week. It's not how, you know, like we can't say, oh, the Lions are a terrible team now. They had a really, really bad game.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah, there's bigger questions. They had a really, really bad game. Yeah, there's bigger questions. They had a really, really bad game. So did Greg Olson's coat come back next week? Strong. Greg Olson probably needed a week like this. Yes. To bring them down to earth. So we can get back in the film room and get back to basics and what made him
Starting point is 00:21:16 great to begin with. I would like to hear from Lions fans, though, how they're feeling because this is one of those losses that you're riding high and everything feels good and you're killing the bad teams which I give credit to anyone, you know, it's the NFL. It's hard to win games no matter what. They pay those guys too. But then to have a loss like this against another team,
Starting point is 00:21:39 you know, an AFC team that is super aspirations, that's got to feel bad. I think when you say to yourself, well, at least we don't have to play Lamar until the Super Bowl. Right. But that now the other thing I was going to say that's that, that's that whole gate both of us, the 91 Lions being five and one going into their seventh game and losing by exactly 32.
Starting point is 00:21:59 That team won a one a playoff game with Lions fans sign up for a playoff win this year. Oh, absolutely. A single. Yes, nothing else. You can't get past that. I think they would. Okay. I think they would probably.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah. Also, this is the first of three straight games for the Ravens against NFC teams to your stat earlier. Okay. So who do we got next week? Cardinals. Oh, I bet I'm going to take the Ravens in that one. And then see Hawks.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Here's the other good thing about for the Lions. Their schedule is not hard. They have a lot of winnable games coming up. They play the Raiders, the Chargers, the Bears, the Packers, the Saints, the Bears again, the Broncos. I'm saying, like the Vikings twice, they're the Cowboys Week 17. I just listed a bunch of teams that the Lions
Starting point is 00:22:41 maybe outside of at the Chargers should be favored over. Yeah. And to our point that we made, I think on Friday, five and two looks awesome. Five and two looks great. Five and two is a fantastic record. Yeah. Five and two looks great. Go beat the Raiders next week back in Detroit, Monday night football, and then you get a buy week. And then you're back. Everything feels good. I also love how we're just like kind of completely going back on what we said about the Lions that they don't take games off that they won't get their ass kicked. And now we're like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:07 It's probably good for him. We'll come up a little bit. I don't even know if they took this game off. They just got, they just got their ass kicked. Yeah. Like I think the Ravens are at this point in time a lot better than the lion. Jared was not ready for that defense or the offensive line was. I don't know exactly how they were getting pressure on them all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He was uncomfortable. No, he didn't look good. The very first snap. He didn't have a good game. And they're in the Lions, uh, rushed defense, which was the best rushed defense statistically going into today. They gave up 146 yards. Remember, they got that it. It was top defense versus one of the best rushing off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got cashed. So best on best. Um, but I, yeah, maybe this is the moment Todd Munkins offense. They're all click. I mean, if you're a Ravens fan, you were definitely thinking Superbow right? The answer is probably not because the Ravens will then knowing how the Ravens always act.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I still think they're a very good team, but next week they'll go out and like lay a clunker. Uh, and then everyone be like, what's up with the Ravens? Then they'll just do it again. Where then they kill someone. That's how the Ravens do it. There was a very weird moment in the second half of this game where Odell Beckham just spat into his helmet, just like he's like, he's like, he's like, he's spitting on his visor to like clear it off. Oh, like a scuba mask. Like a scuba mask. But when if you watch the replay, he just took his helmet and just like, he was holding it
Starting point is 00:24:20 like a foot away from his mouth and just spat into it indiscriminate. I don't know like he's just spits it because it makes it easier to put on. Yeah. That's the only thing I can think it was a very it probably like the fifth most strange thing that Odele Beckham did today. But still pretty weird, pretty weird move. Pretty weird move. Okay, next game. Patriots 29 bills 25. Tough day for us tough day for us versus the, you guys just suck off the bills and the Lions crowd. Yeah. They're out for blood. They want answers.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We have answers. I think we were fair. Lions suck today. Jared was not good. Their, their whole team looked bad. The bills also suck today. So I, I think I figured out what's wrong with the bills. I think they just might not be a very good football team right now.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I would agree. I, I think that there's like some actual problems with that team, especially their rush defense. And the offense looks a little out of sorts too. Like the bills, we put them in the Super Bowl contending conversation at the start of every year because they have Josh Allen and Josh Allen kicks ass, but he's not playing his best right now. The defense isn't playing their best right now. I think the bills just aren't a very good team. I think the bills defensive injuries have piled up in a way that they are not like. Mac Jones was very good today. Yeah. Mac Jones deserves. He's gotten a lot of shit. He deserves a ton of credit. He was very good. That game winning drive was like big boy drive and the bills defense because it was he said it on Friday, like the giants moved the ball and the bills too.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I think their defense is like below average right now and their offense looks clunky and on top of all that. The last three games they've at halftime combined, they're down 30 to 10, they've just been coming out so slow and not able to make up for it. And you get this where I know that they came back and they took the lead late in the fourth. But the Patriots outplayed the bills like it wasn't fluky.
Starting point is 00:26:11 The Patriots outplayed the bills. Mac Jones outplayed Josh Allen today. Yeah, Mac Jones that so here's a fun stat Hank. You'll appreciate this if you're here. Hank, Mac Jones tied Tom Brady for the most last 15 second. Go ahead touchdowns in Patriots history. Wow. With one.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Wow. So they've each got one now big big day for Mac big day for Bill Bellicac 300th win. He has 300th and he got a contract extension four months ago. Yeah. That we just found out about today. I thought that time was pretty interesting that they they announced it today is everybody is like, Hey, what's going to happen with Bill? Are they going to fire him?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Are they going to ask Bill to leave? And then they're, you know, they spring the, actually, he just said, he signed a lucrative contract extension just a few months ago. Yeah, funny you should ask. We actually just signed it up. Such a Tom Kern who covers the Patriots, who I think is an ATA Bill, or he says, sons are, said that it was interesting because only the last time the Patriots talked about Bill Bale
Starting point is 00:27:05 checks contract which is a mystery. We have no idea how much money Bill Bale check makes over here. We need to know how much coaches make. I wish we knew. I would guess like 10 million. Yeah, I was going to say about 10. He's the highest paid coach. Yeah, by far. So he said that the last time they talked about an extension and essentially this same playbook of, oh, we signed up for an extension this summer was right after Spigate. Yeah. playbook of, oh, we signed up on an extension this summer, was right after Spigate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So similar like, hey, what are the questions going on and everything? No, no, Bill Balecheck's our coach. So it does feel like they, I guess that's a vote of confidence. I guess so. But it's also not that big of a vote of confidence. The fact that they leaked this right now. If they really believed in Balecheck,
Starting point is 00:27:44 they probably would have announced that over the summer. No, but they don't do that. They never announced those things. I think they wait just to be like break, break glass in case of emergency. In case something weird happens. I don't know. Vrable is there though.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Vrable is there. Yeah, he, I think he was getting inducted into the Patriots ring of honor. And yeah, the Patriots, like, I wish Hank were here. He would, he would have loved to talk about that game. I'm Belletheck 300 day. Belletheck 300 day. We should just remind ourselves
Starting point is 00:28:10 that Bill Belletheck has the most Super Bowl wins as a head coach. He's got six. He's got the most, excuse me, yeah, Super Bowl wins as a head coach with six. Most Super Bowl wins in total with eight. Most Super Bowl appearances with 12. Most playoff wins with 31.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Well, those are great stats. These are just factual stats that I'd like to say. And what is Bill Bellichek? What's his favorite phrase? Second favorite phrase. Do your job number one. No days off. No days off.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. Hank. Okay, thank you, Hank. I also, I love that Bill Bellichek said that during the parade on a day off. On a day off. When everybody was taking a half a day from work. No days off. But yeah, the, the the the Patriots like, I feel like as someone who goes through what feels like
Starting point is 00:28:51 a tanking season every single year, getting these random wins actually is very good for the psyche. Because it's like, oh, maybe we're not so far off. Yeah. You know, like that's a very, it's a nice thing. You have to balance it where you're like, ah, we want the draft pick, but winning a game every now and then, and we'll get to the Bears like winning game every now and then it kind of feels good. Yeah. And the Patriots looked like a regional college school playing against Alabama for the last few weeks. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:18 They look really, really bad. And today they actually played great football. So and Mac Jones is confident. Mac Jones looked pretty good today. He did. He was. He was throwing. He was that last drive was huge. I think he's probably going to go into next week being like probably a little too confident. If we're being honest. Oh, yeah. His dance after. Yeah. Like he had won the Super Bowl and shout out to Mike Kisickey, who remains committed to doing the gritty. Yes. And that was an appropriate gritty at the end of the game when you score the go-ahead touchdown. And I think he's like intentionally bad at the gritty now. I think he's in on the joke. He's trying to fuck it up real, real bad. Yes. But it was beautiful
Starting point is 00:29:52 to see. He was just just an excited dude. Yeah. And Demario Douglas, who I think is a rookie for the Patriots. He looked like now you always have the judge because the Patriots somehow collect what seems like the slowest wide receivers in skill position, but he looked like he had pop. Yeah, they have something there. Uh, last thing I had, which is a quote, I don't quite understand. Uh, Vaughn Miller said this was a reality check. Every team needs a good punch in the mouth. Hasn't that been the last three weeks for the bills?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah. Last week, they were, they set like a world record in an aptitude in a game that was won against the Giants. It was, they got punched in the mouth last week. And then the week before they got punched them out by the Jaguars. Yeah, they're just, they're getting punched in the mouth a lot. These days, they might be concussed. Yeah, it might be punch drunk.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. So I don't know if like, you can say, oh, yeah, this is actually good for us. Like, the lion said, because it keeps happening. So like, yeah, you might, you might not be that good of a football team right now. Yeah, so I mean, the bills look great on offense against the commanders.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And then ever since then, they've just looked very, very mediocre at best. Right, right. And you keep, and the raiders as well. They killed the raiders. That's right, yeah, yeah. And so you keep thinking like, oh, it's there somewhere. And maybe it will click and they'll, they'll all of a sudden look like the bills that we've
Starting point is 00:31:09 been accustomed to. But right now, I wouldn't bet on it because this is, this is three weeks in a row where they have not looked good. I think we have a diva watch update too. Why? Stefan Digg is decline in speech to reporters and molded his lock for 45 minutes according to batting. Oh, mold. He was mulling. He molded. According to Ben Vollen of the Boston Globe.
Starting point is 00:31:28 What was he doing at his locker just like just staring off in the distance? How much mulling? He just scenes from post games. That's on the decline to speak to reporters and mulling at his locker for 45 minutes. Would you rather have a player mulling or stewing at their locker? I feel like I feel like a rather the two stews. Oh stew, stew. Yeah, because if they're stewing, I think there's anger. Yeah, they're angry and they're thinking about stuff. If you're mulling, you're plotting some sort of weird move.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And that's also like a mole is definitely a sad when you're sitting in that attitude. You're questioning your whole life. Yeah. Wow, you got here all that. It's like, Max stewing is like, I can't wait for next week. I'm gonna get him. Yeah, Max staring off. He was he was mulling.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, when you're mulling, you're thinking about mistakes you've made in the past and you're dwelling on them. Right. How could things be different? If you're stewing, you're thinking about the future. Yeah. And how can I fix this? I want a guy that stews. I love stuff on digs, but the pet peeve in mine won't speak to the media. Oh, how dare they just just say, just be like, he did. He's a mold. You got a story out of a body language.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, you literally, and also, I, here's my counter point to that, Jake, when you don't speak to the media, that's also a story. So what's the, that's true. Like, what is he gonna say? Put it better for the player to be like to speak. No, cause he's gonna say a bunch of cliches that no one gives a fuck,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but then it won't be a story. Right, but I'm saying like journalists, you can't be upset when a player doesn't speak to the media because you then get even more of a story. Right, like when Cam Newton lost the Super Bowl. Yeah, it was a big story. And he didn't tell you that story. Right, story, you got your copy too.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So if you're mad that a player doesn't speak to the media. Yeah, it's easier for the story, but I'm saying it's for the plagues benefit. I'm better. And I was a journalist, I would never want the players to speak because then I'd just be like, this guy's a fucking pussy. Anyone talk to him? Story written.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'll just say that on the record, I don't care when a player doesn't talk to the other afterwards. Yeah, I don't either. Because they rarely say anything good. Jake, what if you had the worst podcast of your life, right? What if you messed up every nerd nugget? And you're just all on it and then quite afterwards.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And then quite afterwards. And then quite afterwards. And then quite afterwards, Hank Grills you for like 30 minutes. I'm like, Tom, me. I take full responsibility. See? And then I'd be like, what? I did my picks, but then I would fall to my fault. Yeah. Then I would say, what is that? That's just a cliche. I don't get you.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You don't actually mean it. Where's, yeah, if Hank filed a report saying Jake Marsh wouldn't could not be reached for comment. I'd be like, ooh, trouble and paradise. Yeah, this is awesome. This is juicy. Yeah, it's also very possible that stuff on digs just hates losing, which is a guy
Starting point is 00:33:52 that you would actually want to have on your team. I'm also realizing that like we should teach a journalism class because the shit your learning is was so off. Well, to be like drilled into the players have to talk to the media, no, the players the players have to talk to the media. No, the players don't have to talk to the media. It's better story when they don't because then you get to just make up work.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Jake, is this no comment to us? Yeah. We're going to have to we're going to talk about how Jake will address the media. That's more than sitting in mulley like this. No, Jake, you're not addressing the media right now when Big Cat asked you a question as a journalist and you said no comment. Well, I think you're going into the direction. I think journalists are just such robots that they're like, oh, he didn't speak.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So now what am I going to do? I would be like, hey, he didn't speak. Now I get to write a story just bashing him. Well, I think that most sports journalists grow up thinking to themselves like, okay, I want to be a sports journalist when I grow up. And then once they get there, they think that it's the most important job in the world. Right. It's like that. I want to be a sports journalist when I grow up. And then once they get there, they think that's the most important job in the world. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's like that. And then being like a, a, a roadie for Bruce Springsteen, tied one and two. Right. And so once you reach that level, then you think that you're, that the players will use something into the game. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Speak to us. Yeah, talk to me. I'm a, I have a, I have a, I have a laptop and a die code. Yeah. You fucking better open your mouth and give me some, give me some words that don't mean anything that you don't mean. Tell them, tell us you're on to the next week. Yeah. You got to go look at the film. I have a lot of ideas. When a quarterback doesn't
Starting point is 00:35:12 tell me that every interception I threw is his fault. I will not, I will not sleep until they tell me that they have to look at the film before they tell me what happened. Can you believe, can you believe this coach didn't tell me that it starts with me and that it starts an end with me? And then he's got to take a good long look in the mirror. Oh, bullshit. What am I going to write about? Also Stefan Diggs definitely saved himself because he if he was mulling, he would have
Starting point is 00:35:37 said some shit. Yeah, then he would have regretted. Yeah. Anyway, I don't believe in more. It's so fun. Um, okay. So congrats to Hank. Oh, yes, still not here. Congrats to Hank. He had to know we were gonna do this.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I know. No one can make shit. He was he was at a friend's wedding. No, I think the wedding was tonight. So I don't want to interrupt. He knew we knew he wasn't gonna be here. It's just very funny to the Patriots won against the bills. Because like he would have if the Patriots had gotten killed by the bills, he would have been like, thank God, I'm not there. But he had the one chance to gloat all season. And he's not getting. He's not getting. He was also the lighthouse's first win today.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh, and his start, where were you? We were here. We were watching it. There's a few gold that the bills missed in the first half that was it sailed like 20 yards to the right after he kicked it. So windy. That's, that's the windy conditions that Bella check was talking about that the lighthouse does provide.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yep. That's a fact. So give the lighthouse half the wind today. That's a fact. Okay. Before we get to the next games, game time, the exclusive ticketing partner of barstool sports, you shouldn't have to worry when you're buying tickets to your next big event.
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Starting point is 00:38:31 So Miles Garrett is the first player since 2000 with two sacks two force fumbles and a block kick in a single game. The block kick was so cool. He just jumped over the line and I think if you touch and often to the lineman when you try to jump over him It's a penalty and I think it's a big one I think it's either 10 or 15 yards, so it'd be a first down He just jumped over and blocked the kick on his own just do that every time milescare. Yeah, just or get I mean
Starting point is 00:38:54 Women Yama would also be pretty good just like sticking his hands up in the air But yeah, milescare was unblockable today just a monster and you're right the the colds got fucked The colds got fucked pretty badly on that last drive There was a passer-fference that was called on a ball that was thrown I'm gonna conservatively it was ten yards out of the in zone Yeah, I landed and I don't know if they do unkatchable anymore I don't know how the refs would get together and discuss that But if you saw the play that was unkatchable and if it's's pass or interference and it's 10 yards out of the back of the in zone, then there's no
Starting point is 00:39:26 chance that that should be ruled a penalty and they get the ball in the one yard line. So the Colts got fucked on that big time big time big time. And the I mean, all right, so the Colts, I'm big fan of Shane Stuykin. They obviously have had a weird season because Anthony Richardson has out for the year. The fact that they're they might be the frisky's team in the NFL They're a well coach team. They're a well coach team. They're frisky. They've won against some good opponents They're it feels like they're in every game and they don't make a I mean, they made a bunch of mistakes today because they had fun bowls and everything And they couldn't block Miles Garrett and no one can But yeah, I the cults might be my first key is team.
Starting point is 00:40:07 They're super first. You don't know what to expect when you're playing the cults. They're going to put up a fight. I know they lost by a billion to the Jags last week. Yeah. But when they're at home, they, they always compete. And this was the first loss in the history of Lucas Oil Stadium where the window was closed and the roof was open.
Starting point is 00:40:22 They still covered, but they were 10 and O. Now they're 10 and 1. Astrix. Astrix on this one. DeShawn Watson, should we talk about DeShawn? Yeah, he stinks. He stinks. He's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And they're paying him $230 million. And when he got injured today, I don't know if he was ever diagnosed. I think he got diagnosed with just being rich and not really wanting to play football that much anymore. Yeah, because he put his helmet back on, which usually with the concussion, they don't let you have your helmet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And he got injured on a play where he threw one of the worst interceptions except the colts player dropped it at the last second. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's got to be, I mean, Brown's fans know this, they're tortured. It's got to be extra maddening to know that you Kind of signed a deal with the devil and to Sean Watson. You've gotten past that like hey, you know like all of us as fans Have rooted for guys. Maybe we don't love but
Starting point is 00:41:15 You have you you bought you got him because you knew he was an incredible quarterback You now have an incredible defense and to Sean Watson stinks. Yeah, he when he's playing He just doesn't look like the old Dishon Watson who was having fun when he was playing. You know, like he would run around and he would actually go full tilt. This Dishon just kind of looks like he's going through the motions a little bit. And when you put PJ Walker back there, at least he's trying. And he has multiple times a game where he throws interceptions that are like, fuck it, I'm just going to throw it and hope something happens. Yeah, like I don't really want to be on offense anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, like maybe someone will catch this. Yeah, maybe not. Who cares? But yeah, it's, it's definitely a problem because PJ Walker, he did have the game when he drive, but he's not, you know, PJ Walker, you can't expect to be your starter for a playoff. He's a nice backup. He's a very nice backup.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Very nice backup. Also, Gardner Menshu might be back because what he did to the Browns defense today, which was the best defense lead coming into today. He had four total touchdowns. He did have some Gardner Menshu moments where it's just fun because Gardner Menshu is like, you know, the Tony Snell meme when he just plays for 30 minutes, it doesn't record a stat. Gardner Menshu will always make sure that you know Gardner Minshue is like, you know, the Tony Snow meme, when he just plays for 30 minutes,
Starting point is 00:42:25 it doesn't record a stat. Gardner Minshue will always make sure that you know Gardner Minshue played. He's got everything. He's like, he's the wedding guest that like really cuts it up on the dance floor, maybe says something inappropriate to the mother of the bride,
Starting point is 00:42:39 tries to make an impromptu speech, and you walk away being like, oh yeah. Gardner was there. I think this is a very definition of wild card. Yeah. He's such a wild card. You feel him. That's, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:42:49 You feel something when you watch him. He'll have like, yeah, he'll have multiple touchdowns. He'll have some fumbles. He'll throw an interception. He'll probably get his helmet knocked off a couple times. He'll dance. Yeah, he'll get up and like, do a big group celebration on the sidelines after a sick touchdown.
Starting point is 00:43:03 He'll give his dad a bro hug and the tunnel after the game's over. Like Gardner Menshu is watching him makes you feel more alive. Yeah, you never walk out of a Gardner Menshu game being like, wait, who played quarterback today? No, no, it was Gardner Menshu. Yeah, shit will happen. Shit will happen for sure. Yeah, he so he might Menshu Mania might be back, but good for the Browns, even though they got a little lucky there. But you know what, the Browns are definitely in the category of teams that if they get a favorable whistle, I will never blame them or be like, that's bullshit because they deserve it. I feel like they've probably gotten their fair of unfair, their share of unfair whistles
Starting point is 00:43:41 in the history of the Browns. Yeah, yeah. They missed a couple tackles on their defensive side today, but overall, like I think the Browns are still, they're gonna be hanging around, they're four and two right now, which actually it puts them in third place in that division. That division's kind of crazy. The division's good.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Because the Steelers are, I guess, technically above them right now. And you just know that whenever any of these teams play each other, it's gonna be like 17 to 15, and there's gonna be like multiple injuries and weird shit's gonna happen. They're just gonna beat the hell teams play each other, it's gonna be like 17 to 15, and there's gonna be like multiple injuries and weird shit's gonna happen. There's gonna beat the hell out of each other.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And the craziest part is the last place team, the bangles is the team that I'd probably feel most confident in making a deep run. Yeah, which, yeah, it's a very good division. Very good division. Okay, oh, Justin Hopkins, we gotta say something about him. Yeah. We kicks over 50 yards, 58, 54, 54, added a 44-yarder.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Incredible game. Five games in a row with a 50-yard feel goal. Incredible game. Kicking used to be a lot harder, I feel like. Right? When you were growing up and you were attempting a 51-yard feel goal, you'd be like, oh shit, this is crazy alone. And now you have to be automatic from 50. This is why
Starting point is 00:44:53 the college game is so much fun because every kick no matter the distance is a hold your breath. This might not go in. Now in the NFL, I'm shocked when a guy misses like a 40 yarder. Yeah. Shocked. So yeah, it is. The the the kickers are very good. They've gotten so much better in the last like 20 years and and it is You're you're right because it's you I when we were growing up there was Attempting 50 plus sharders that wouldn't I if three of them in a game. Yeah, maybe it was maybe it's coaches have just learned to trust kickers more over years because Coaches have always hated kickers. It's been their least favorite position by far and now have always hated kickers. It's been their least favorite position by far. And now slowly, kickers have proven that, yeah, we can kick the ball 50 yards if we have to. And over the course of the last, like, I know quarter century coaches have gradually been giving them
Starting point is 00:45:34 more and more freedom. Okay, this is going to be very dumb. What about to say, what if kickers, and I know this is going to be dumb, what if kickers are all in the NFL really good at these long distance kicks, but they actually suck at short distance kicks. And we don't even know it anymore because so many teams go for it. They go for it. I'm like, yeah, it's different angles. I think we have extra point back. Yeah. What if that would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:56 If everyone just kept on missing like 23 yarders, yeah. And we just never figured it out. They've become like Steph Curry. We just had no idea because they just weren't trying it. It could they can make all these three pointers, but they can't make a layup. They can't do it. They can't play the old way. That'd be a great twist. Yeah. Okay. Next game. Giants 14 commander seven. Soupy off. Soupy off. Soupy officially off. I'm going to turn this over to Magic Johnson for analysis. Okay. owner of the commanders, partial owner, Magic Johnson said, it's a disappointing 14 to seven loss for my commanders, the New York
Starting point is 00:46:31 giants, it's hard to win in the NFL when you only score seven points. I think that's that says it all right there. A stat hole did run the numbers on this. So the teams that scored exactly seven points since 1970 are 32 974 and four. So confirmed hard to win in the NFL when you're scoring seven points. I'm in blow it all up mode. I'm in trade everybody mode.
Starting point is 00:46:55 This is a bad team. It's a, I root for a very bad team. And I'm not going to apologize for saying that if we beat the bills and the Eagles, I would think soupy because I would have been thinking soupy at that point. But yeah, maybe the most fraudulent two no team of all time, it was just I've watched a lot of commanders giants game in my life. This was maybe the most depressing out of all of them. It was a pretty depressing game. The giants won the game and the last points they scored was with eight minutes and 56 seconds left in
Starting point is 00:47:26 the second quarter. Yeah, it didn't score for the last 39 minutes. It was, I think they scored their first first half touchdown of the season today. Yeah. And then they did it again. And so I'm going to just sell everyone mode, which build around Trustway or ponder that's what I'll say. I think that might be the most frustrating thing that you're going through is that your team stinks, but you have a lot of good players. Yeah, because like I don't have any good players. You have a lot of good players. We've got some good players. One term, McLaren is awesome. Yes, so he and Robinson awesome. Terry, Terry McLaren had a great second half today and I would like to see them throw the ball to him more in the first half, but I'm going to turn it over to actually Jonathan Allen. And reach him for a comment after the game.
Starting point is 00:48:08 This is his quote, I'm fucking tired of this shit. I'm fucking tired of this bullshit. It's been seven fucking years of the same shit. I'm tired of this shit. Well said. That might be my tattoo. That says it all. That is being a commander's fan in general.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'm gonna remember, this is me and Jonathan Allen. Co-quote me on this one. I'm fucking tired of this shit. I remember this is this is me and Jonathan Allen co-quote me on this one. I'm fucking tired of this shit. I'm fucking tired of this bullshit. It's been fucking seven years of the same shit. I'm tired of this shit. That says it all. Yeah. I'm just sick of it. It sucks. It sucks. And Sam howell is 40 sacks now through through the first seven games. Yep. He got sacks six times today. The giants don't really have like an incredible defense. They played an incredible defense today.
Starting point is 00:48:50 They were they were phenomenal. Uh, I also, the weird thing that comes out of this game is tire of Taylor better than Daniel Jones. Yeah. I was actually disappointed that it was going to be Tyrod when I found out that he was starting today. I would much rather play against Daniel Jones. So he did two things.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Well, he did three things. One is he got, he got Jalen Hyatt involved. So he had two catches for 75 yards. I think he had like five catches before that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you drafted him last year. He's very, very fast. We loved watching the Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Also shout out, Jerry O'Connell, Darren Waller. Yeah. Hello. He got Darren Waller involved. And here's a crazy stat. So Tyraud had 279 yards, 9.6 yards per attempt, and two touchdowns. Daniel Jones in 59 starts has never
Starting point is 00:49:40 in one game gone overall three of those. That's crazy. That's well. He on. That's wild. He's never had a statistically, he's had probably games that are maybe statistically better in four touchdowns or something, but he's never had all three of those over that. It was also Brian Dable. He was in charge of the offense this week.
Starting point is 00:49:55 He was in all the meetings. Well Tyrod took chances. He's decisive. He's seen it all. Yeah, he really has. He congrats the Giants, much better team today. There's no, I don't think anybody out there is like, oh, the better team lost.
Starting point is 00:50:10 No, the commanders stink. And I'm fucking tired of this shit. They're one and 15 on third downs. Get rid of, you know what? I used to say, keep sweat, trade, chase, young. Trade, why not trade both of them now? Oh, so you're in full tank. I'm in full tank mode.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Welcome. It's a, it's a bad team. Welcome. It's a it's a bad team Welcome. It's a bad team. I've accepted it There's just no hope for this team right now now Sam. How I would like to see him just like give me a little boost of confidence for the rest of the season If Sam how it continues today didn't play well But if he gets back to playing like good Sam for the rest of the season Then I can at least think to myself, we have a quarterback that maybe we could build around. Good news, you play the Eagles next week, and I actually mean that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You always play the Eagles tough. Yeah. So that is good news. Yeah. Like you play the Eagles tough. I'm just fucking tired of this shit. Yeah. Um, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:51:00 That was the biggest bummer of a game to watch. It was terrible. The giants doubled their sack total For the season in the very first half. She's and the commanders had more puns than completions in the first half It is tough to sell yourself on three and four when two of your four losses are to the bears and the giants. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair Yeah, that's fair to say. Yeah So yeah, just fucking tired of this bullshit. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, it's okay, but it is it was bad. I'm listen, I'm familiar with having this feeling right now. I've had it before. Yeah, it's like getting into warm tub. I did see,
Starting point is 00:51:37 I did see that Vegas put out some stats on where Bella check will coach next. If it's not on the Patriots, commanders are the odds on favor. I think the bears were second. Yeah. So we might get Bella check. I've always said that Bella check is a great coach not washed up and it is it's close to his hometown of Inappalus, Maryland.
Starting point is 00:51:55 You know what? Like I fully embrace you going to tank mode. I've said it before that moment that you realize your team sucks. You have like a very brief denial phase and then you quickly are like, I've been here before. This is, you know, I'm crawling back into my own bed. Yeah, I know I know how this I'm gonna sleep well tonight. I've been through this.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You do have though a very big game in two weeks that you have to win. Who's that at New England? Oh, yeah, that's huge. That's going to be a massive one. That's gonna be a massive one. I think Robert Varro also might be dead. He actually might just be a dead body. There's some almost talk today. We can get burnies on the sidelines. Just like propping them up, putting the transition lenses on them and just putting them there with his arms crossed and not saying a word. He did, he got fired up about one blown call. So I did see him talk today for the first time all season.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So he might not be dead unless we've got a ventriloquist, but it was, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on with that team at all. It seems like the coaching staff has checked out. I don't know what Del Rio is doing. It seemed like we had never seen a blitz before. Yeah. It was all around just a bummer of a game.
Starting point is 00:53:05 And we always play the giants weird. And it's always like 45 degrees at MetLife. And it's super sunny. And it's just weird vibes from the get-go. So yeah, let's sell everybody. Sell everyone. Yeah. OK.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Next up, Falcon 16, $13. This is just like, this was the perfect NFC South game in that both teams are not very good, but you could maybe look at him in a light and be like, oh, maybe they're okay. And then the Falcons were better, but they also tried to give the game away so many times. And here's one positive for Falcons fans. Desmond Ritter did not throw any interceptions. He did fumble three times though. And I think he fumbled at the one yard line twice.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Twice. Yeah. But maybe he's just like, maybe Arthur Smith was like, listen, no interceptions. He's like, got it, got it. He had three red zone turnovers, none of which were interceptions. The first player to win a start
Starting point is 00:54:04 with three red zone turnovers since 2000 of which were interceptions. The first player to win a start with three red zone turnovers since 2000. Good for him. Good for him. So he accomplished the impossible. If you're a Falcons fan that does not have like the YouTube package. So you're watching out of market. Maybe you're watching on red zone and they keep cutting to your team in the red zone when you're about to score. You probably think to yourself, oh, awesome, they're cutting to the Falcons, we're about to score again. And then it's just three turnovers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Like back to back to back. That must have been very strange to watch for Falcons fans. They are, I think the Falcons are now officially the worst good team in football. And they also are the best team in the NRC South. Yeah. Which is not really a compliment, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 But it's a fact. And maybe you can get better if B. John Robinson cares the ball at all. Yeah. So he was feeling under the weather today. That are good friend Jerry also quote treated a Twitter account with six followers that said B. John Robinson was not playing today because during meetings this week, he was smoking a vape and Arthur Smith told him to stop and be John Blue smoke into Arthur Smith's face. No, that really happened. Jerry was like, wait, what if that guy was right? It's me followers.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, I follow. Just because it's a followers, it doesn't mean that it's not true. That report. He would say it was a bad headache. It was okay. It's my mind. Yeah. I like guys that have wee grains.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, these guys. Arthur Smith, I think he is, we'd have to do a quick power ranking, but I think he's pretty close to top three funniest coaches on the sidelines. No, his reactions are so much better this year. It's like him and Pete Carroll. The mustache. The mustache has done wonders for his like slapstick comedy on the side He's so funny to watch. Yeah, I love him and I also I have a theory about Arthur Smith
Starting point is 00:55:50 I think his strategy is to get a bunch of really really talented players on offense and then make a Posing defensive coordinators have to game plan for them and then not use them at all It's so it's like you've wasted your entire week of practice thinking about how B. Jean Robinson is going to run Ruffshod. Here's all the Tyler Algera in the world for you. And a little quarter, I'll pass it in a little mix it in. Yeah, we're going to get freaky within, put Cortarella out there for a little bit too. Oh, you've seen what Kyle Pitz does on tape? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:56:17 We're not going to throw the ball to him at all. He's actually a genius. Yeah. He's basically the allies in World War II when they put all, they staged all the dummy tanks in a different part of England Yeah, or we just drafted a team of decoys. They they pushed some like paratrooper out into the Mediterranean Sea saying how D day was gonna be in Italy. Yeah, and drew all the tanks away Yeah, that's I think that's what Ross Smith's doing
Starting point is 00:56:38 He's like they're going to they're gonna put together the perfect defensive game plan to stop our really talented players Yeah, and then we're just gonna just paper cut them to death with like the second stringers. Yeah, and the bucks suck. They do. Well, I think now they're they might be the best bad team in football. Oh, best bad team. Maybe the Rams. Rams are definitely in the chargers.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh yeah, you know what? I didn't think the chargers might be the best bad team. I didn't think about that because we weren't thinking of the chargers being a bad team. No, they are a bad team. They're a bad team. Yeah, I think the chargers might be the best bad team. What about the bills?
Starting point is 00:57:17 The bills actually might be. I think to be considered in the bad team category, you do have to be 500 or below. Okay, I think that's fair. the bad team category, you do have to be 500 or below. Okay. I think that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, that would be, I would probably take chargers over the box as best bad team.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Who do you think the worst bad team is? Cause I think the worst bad team might actually be the Raiders. I think the Cardinals, I think the Cardinals got everyone, well, the Panthers didn't play this week, so we forgot about them. They're probably the worst, but the Cardinals also like that was Again, I think that that Cowboys win has they're they're living off that Cowboys win for a while
Starting point is 00:57:53 Like people like look at the the Cardinals. They're frisky. I know they're not covering spreads anymore But yeah, the bucks stink they can't run the football They're not very good on I mean, they're okay on defense. And then I, I don't know, like a couple times a game to do like a deep shot to Mike Evans, you'd be like, ooh, the box. And that's about it. And then they beaten the Vikings, the Saints, and the Bears. So they're just, they're a little bit better than the really bad teams. And I think the Falcons have a pretty favorable schedule going forward. So the Falcons. I think the Falcons are going to make the play.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I think they're a playoff. I think they're playoff. I agree. I agree. Yeah. No, they do. They do have a favorable schedule. They don't play their toughest remaining game might be at the jets.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Yeah. Yeah, that is. That's their toughest remaining game at the Titans. Because remember, Vrables, been you used game planning ahead doing the regular Titans. Yeah, remember the Titans. That's true. But yeah, the Falcons, their defense is good. Falcons defense is good.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah. And their offense today was actually pretty good except for the whole fumbling the ball at the one yard line. Again, I think that I think Arthur Smith just needs to sit down and write it down. I'd be like, so when I said no interceptions, I actually meant to say no turnovers.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah. That does feel the fact that he I said no interceptions, I actually meant to say no turnovers. Yeah. That does feel the fact that he went from three interceptions last week to no interceptions, three fumbles feels like it was a lost in communication thing. Yeah. Arthur Smith just needs to rebrand. He needs to say like, okay, the one you are line is the brown zone. Mm-hmm. Just don't shit yourself here and you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yes, yes, because it was, yeah, I mean, the Falcons could have won this game by a few touchdowns. Yeah. But yeah, the Bucks stink. I'm ready to say the Bucks just stink. They're not good. They're, I would say the Bucks poorly coached team. Well, yeah, top holes, not a good coach. No, no, no, it doesn't. Steven Chey are our friend and colleague who's a Bucks fan will not admit that the Bucks stank. He was after the game was like, I think the Bucks are better than the Falcons. It's like, well, they did just play a game to prove that. And the Falcons did win and they have a better record and better wins. But his not fully understanding who he has as a coach, like he was begging Todd bowls
Starting point is 01:00:03 to take time out. And with like 45 seconds off in the first half so that they could try to score back. I was like, Todd Boles would never do that. No, that was thinking ahead. Yeah. And also being aggressive. Yeah. Yeah. It just did go for a fourth and six today. So credit is important for that. It's interesting what happens when Tom Brady leaves a franchise. It's almost like Tom Brady is very, very good. Yeah. And so you can get away with having a lot of deficiencies when he's on your team. Yeah. Then when he leaves, it's like, oh yeah, these guys aren't really that great. Yeah. Tom, I mean, Tom Brady really does, he's winning everywhere. He keeps winning. He's like Arnold, which is coming all day. Tom Brady is just winning all day,
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Starting point is 01:03:53 He gets the ball out. I thought Luke gets, he called a good, good game. Made it easy for him. I'm very happy for him. I mean, like to be an undrafted division two guy, to be starting an NFL game two months later, it's a cool story. So here's some fun stats.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Tyson Bagen's last two starts. He lost to the Colorado School of Mines and then he won against Las Vegas Raiders. Love it. So that's quite a turnaround for him. He had like 40 friends and family in the stands. You have to do that. You're like, I might not ever start a game again.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Who knows? Everybody come out and watch me play football. Dude, here's the thing. He is, if he never starts another game again, which I think you'll probably keep starting because I think Justin feels to be out for a while, he is a legend. Like he can go back to his hometown,
Starting point is 01:04:38 he can coach football, he can put up all the disc game, newspapers, everything. Like it is the coolest thing ever. He got the game ball for sure today. And I think he might have actually proven that he's a competent backup quarterback in the league that should stick around for a while. So I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I am not conflicted the Bears one today just because every other one in four team except the Cardinals also won. So it's actually a perfect day to win, because we went from the second to the third pick and we is the pants. If the pants keep losing like the Bears can win a couple games. And it's fun to win one. It's fun to not feel like the biggest piece of shit in the world when you watch your football team on Sundays. And so I'm happy. I'm happy. Should be happy. I'm happy
Starting point is 01:05:21 they want to get. I'm happy for you that you're happy. I have a question about happiness though Hmm. Do you think Justin fields is super happy? So this is not great for Justin fields mental. Yeah Because that didn't look pretty good. He looked pretty good. Now I think they were it was very clear the game plan a lot of running Deontiform was awesome. He was awesome. He had The anti-form was awesome. He was awesome. He had, the anti-form and had 120 yards for scrimmage and three touchdowns running angry. And we're on our like, we have just a bunch of third, four string running backs after him that are running and doing a good job.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And it was very clear like quick passes, get the ball out, first read. So it's not like I walked away being like this guy is the greatest player of all time, but he looked very good running a NFL offense. And it just nothing could be like, I know just feels wants the bear. He wants his teammates to win, but not great first mentors. No, no. In his heart of hearts, he's glad that they won, but he wished that maybe the quarterback didn't look so good. Yeah, I mean, it's not a quarterback controversy because you still have to try to figure out
Starting point is 01:06:31 what Justin Fields is for the rest of the year, but yeah, probably not the best night for him. Having your coach repeatedly say Justin is our quarterback after the game, that's not what you want. It's Rex's our quarterback. Yeah, that's not what you're not necessarily the best position for field to be in. Also shout out to Eber Flus. I guess because he hasn't lost the locker room. I guess. Yeah. They're still competing. They played hard today. Yeah. I don't know. I well, it was a battle of who's lost the locker room more Matt Eber Flus or Josh, uh,
Starting point is 01:07:01 Josh McDaniel today. Well, so, so lasting but the bears real quick. I know no one really wants to hear about the bears because they stink and I know they stink. Well, so, so, last thing but the bears real quick, because I know no one really wants to hear about the bears, because they stink, and I know they stink, but this is one of those wins that momentarily I'm very happy. I'm gonna go to sleep happy tonight. I'm gonna wake up happy tomorrow. But it could very well be a game I look back on
Starting point is 01:07:17 and be like, why did we win that? Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, no, you're right when you say that. Like if Eberfluz gets his job, I don't think that's, I hope that's not gonna happen. I don't I don't just like as a neutral NFL fan. I know. I don't want to enter a club. I know. But yeah, you say right now, it's not a bad week to lose one because all the other bad teams they won, but at the end of the season, you're going to look back and it doesn't
Starting point is 01:07:39 matter which week you actually won that game. Yeah, just accounts for the same. Let's just hope we are prisoners of the moment. Yes, yes. Yeah, but let's talk Josh Frittandos, um, offensive genius Josh McDaniels. Uh, he does not want to start a no conno. I think a no conno did something to him personally because he said afterwards, this isn't preseason anymore when asked whether why he didn't start a no conno. Um, Josh Frittandos also is now, uh now after his 6 and 0 start in Denver. He is 14 and 32 as a head coach.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And they were cheating during the six and 0 start. He also in the last year with the Raiders, he has lost to Jeff Saturday, who just came from ESPN and coached a team and was like, I'm not even gonna wear a headset, I'm just gonna row these guys up. He lost the Baker Mayfield when Baker Mayfield was basically signed, wasn't he signed like two days before? Yeah, three days before and then he lost the Tyson Bat. Paige, yeah, so power rank those in terms of the worst losses.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I would put number one being the Jeff Saturday. Yep, agreed. When you get out coached by Jeff Saturday, that's pretty bad. Yep. And then I would put this second and then the Baker Mayfield one third, because I almost feel like Baker Mayfield, when he's got something to prove, when he's really pissed off, and he feels like he's an unloved puppy, that's when you got a day in which place.
Starting point is 01:08:58 You want a husband? You want a husband, yeah. Yeah, he's been quarterback. Yeah, he's like an ESPN analyst and a D2 guy. Well, I mean Tyson Beijing might, maybe him. Yeah, that's been a writer. He's been a quarter back. He's like a ESPN analyst and a D2 guy. Well, I mean, Tyson Beijing might be him. Yeah, that's true. He may be. We have the story, story is developing.
Starting point is 01:09:10 But yeah, those are, he's a, Josh Nail is a really, he's a combo to a really bad coach and by all accounts, just a terrible human being to be around. Yeah, as, you know what, as bad of a coach as he is, he's even worse human being.
Starting point is 01:09:24 How happy do you think Jim Mercy is that he took a massive shit in his house or interview? Yeah. I guess that's probably the best shit of all time. Ever. Jim Merce, yeah. You avoided four years of Josh McDaniels. That's a great shit. Oh man. It's, uh, yeah, he's no one likes him. No, no one. No one likes him. And he's bad at coaching. I'm trying to think who would like him Maybe Bell check Bell check Bell check. Yeah, I guess I Guess Mac might like him. He did have a good year under him. Yeah But he probably kind of Brady probably tolerates. I think I think Brady enjoyed their time together. Yeah Here's here's Josh R's Joshua Daniels in a nutshell,
Starting point is 01:10:08 because he does kind of coach. He coaches, there are coaches that coach are vibes and it can be fun. He coaches are vibes and it's just bad vibes. So in the same drive, the bears were up 21 to three and Joshua Daniels went for it on fourth and fourth at the bears were up 21 to three. And Josh and Janos went for it on fourth and four at the bears nine. And then he kicked a field goal, fourth and goal at the bears six. Mm hmm. Okay. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 01:10:35 he does coach on vibes. The few bad vibes, only bad vibes. His field goal choices have been just very confusing for the last four weeks. I don't know what he's doing. I just thought of somebody else that probably likes him. J.ler, probably like some because he shipped him out. And he didn't have to work with him anymore. Yes, although I've heard stories about how shitty he was to like everyone on the Broncos. Maybe he's like, you were mean to my friends. The best thing that Josh McDaniels can do as a friend is to get you as far away from Josh McDaniels as possible. Yes. Yes. He's, uh, it's quite something. It's quite something.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I mean, the Raiders are, he made the, he's, the Raiders have gotten worse. Yeah. Pasachia had them in the playoffs. So I think the last time they, they had 21 points once this year. And I think they had 21 points, um, week 17 of last year, but they haven't broken 21 points in that span. And again, offensive is genius,
Starting point is 01:11:26 genius, genius, offensive genius, genius. Yeah. And the Raiders, like this actually was a game that the Raiders, if they had one, and they probably should have won because the Bears aren't good. Uh, they'd be four and three and everyone would be like, Oh, Raiders, Sneaky, maybe playoff team. I just can't believe, nope. I can't believe that the Raiders have won three games.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, well, we've found out very quickly that the Broncos, the Packers and the Patriots are also all pretty bad. Very bad teams. But yeah, I guess I mean, the Bears better than those three teams now. I don't know. I mean, the week one never happened last like three or four weeks, the Bears haven't looked bad. No, they haven't.
Starting point is 01:12:03 They have not. I mean, they did look bad against Vikings, but still besides that, besides that of the of the two bears wins in the last three weeks, they've looked good twice. Yes. I think they've they look the bears look better in those two wins than they look bad against the Vikings in their loss. Yes, but nothing has been as bad as the chief's loss. Yes, that was bad. Okay, let's get to the afternoon slate. We got Seahawks 20 Cardinals 10. It's time for Kyle Murray to come back. Yeah, Josh Stubbs, you know, we had fun with Josh Stubbs, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:12:39 It was a great time. And he's actually still a fun quarterback to watch. And it's just the Cardinals. We said all this on Friday, but they are that Cowboys win has everyone like, ooh, the Cardinals, the Cardinals, because you know, they're also the giants close loss. They have not covered in four straight games, but they did cover the first half. They did cover the first half. to keep doing that. They might just be a really bad team. They are now in the second draft position. They kept it close. I have a take.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I think the Seahawks are really fucking good. So they are. I do. They are. You could say maybe they need a slight upgrade at the quarterback position. But when Geno plays well, they're a playoff team for sure. Yeah. The Seahawks, like if you look at this box score, you're obviously like 20 to 10, they're not that good.
Starting point is 01:13:29 They lost the turnover battle, three nothing, and they still won by 10 points. And I think their defense is what is for real. I think their defense is very good. And they didn't have DK Matt Caff today. Jake Bobo, favorite name. Bobo's are great. Bobo's are having a moment right now. Bobo's are great. Bobo's are having a moment right now.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Bobo's are Jake Bobo and Mike is a Mike Bobo Mike Bobo is a coordinator at Georgia. Yep. And Bobo's are a big and the Bobo that's uh, schemeed uh, Jersey, Jerry and Adam go to a golf course, challenging them to a one-on-one match and never showed. Big year for Bobo. Bobo's are. Jake's a great name too. But Jake's a good name too. Bobo's are having a moment. But yeah, and then Jackson Smith and Jigbo was really awesome too. So it's like the Seahawks, I know
Starting point is 01:14:12 that they weren't that impressive today. I think they're a really fun good team. There was a great moment in today's game where DJ Humphrey's got kicked out for making contact with an official after a play. And when refs get hit by accident, their reaction is so funny. They get mad and they throw the angry flag.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I love to throw it as high up in the air. And they're like, jail. Yeah, they're like getting the guys face. They seriously launch that thing like 50 yards straight up in the air and then let it drop like a hand grenade. Boom, you're out of here, you're done. Would you, if you were a ref, would you be a like regular toss
Starting point is 01:14:44 or would you be a like like regular toss or would you be a uh like backhand toss? Um it depends on what penalty I think if it's delay a game you go backhand toss. If it's pass interference and you're across the field you launch that motherfucker that's your time to shine. Yeah yeah that's true. Anything on the line of scrimmage it's usually just a grab and and pop up. I've actually wondered about the flags. Are they all made by the same company or do some refs prefer like a heavier bag than other refs? Oh, you think there might be some like corking going on in the bats?
Starting point is 01:15:12 There might be, because you want it to have like a little bit of weight to it, but not too much. If it's got a little bit of weight, then you can launch it. You can't launch a soft bag. You saw, you soak it before? Yeah, yeah, we might look into that. Is there like a uniform bag that's used by referees?
Starting point is 01:15:25 We should do a video of us just how we would toss flags. I think I would be like a football every time and try to get just distance. Try to hit the guy that the penalties on. Yeah, what was the guy's name on the browns or Orlando? Orlando Brown? No, no. Or Lindo.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Or Lindo pace. No, it wasn't Orlando pace. Somebody got hit in the eye by a flag. Yeah, it was like actually bad. It actually hurt him. No, it blinded him in that eye for life. I think. Oh, should we? Orlando Brown.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Okay, you're right. We, but there's another Orlando Brown. There's a couple of Orlando Brown. Yeah. Orlando Brown, Jr. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's why I'm confused. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Should we do a contest in the new office? Farthest. We could throw. Yeah, I like that. Okay. Farthest flag. Like passing passing kick but it has to be accurate too Well, we should do distance height Yeah, accuracy it ruined his career. Yeah, it fucked him up bad
Starting point is 01:16:13 I forgot that it was like very very bad. He sued the NFL over. Oh shit. He passed away at 40 Oh, damn it. That was like a really sad Google. Yeah, that's too bad But it is funny when reps throw it straight up in the air out of anger. Yes. Yes. So yes, see Hawks good cardinals bad. Yes, pretty much it. I'm gonna keep taking the Cardinals in the first half because they're not They're not they're fun in the first half. Yeah, they hang around in the first half and then things just kind of fall apart Josh Dobbs has to try to do it all in his own and Josh Dobbs can't do it all in his own And so then you get these these massive second half swings. But yeah, they're they're they're fun to watch. They'll give you a good half a football. Yeah. And when I say Seahawks good,
Starting point is 01:16:54 I think the Seahawks A game could compete with anyone in the NFC. Yeah. They have not played their egg like the Bengals game they played last week was not their a game today was not their a game I think if they ever come up with their a game I think they have enough talent on both sides of the ball to compete with everyone. I'm mad that we we lost a witherspoon Interception today. I know that's a bummer. I know for a Personal foul rough in the quarterback. Yeah, witherspoon is I continue to just love watching him play He seems like he could be defensive rookie of the year. Yeah, just cool It's cool to see the Seahawks with another elite cornerback our guy Tom Fernelli told us about Devon with their spoon he played Illinois D.B.U
Starting point is 01:17:34 I wonder how Tom's doing right now with Illinois football would happen. I didn't talk about it on Wednesday Wisconsin. We'll talk about on Wednesday. Did you watch the game? I did I watched watched the whole game. Yeah, Thomas throwing every reverse jinx in the world at me. Yeah, uh, conceding defeat when we were still down like double digits. It is kind of crazy. They do have great, great defensive backs that come out of Illinois. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, Devin Witherspoon is legit really, really good. And I, I think the, uh, yeah, I'm high on the Seahawks. I'm buying on the Seahawks. All right, here's a game where I don't know what either team is. The Steelers 24, the Ram 17. I think the Rams might stink,
Starting point is 01:18:14 and I think the Steelers might be good, but I also could be told otherwise and be like, yeah, you know what, you're right, I'm wrong. So we're gonna repeat this. The Steelers have a 12 and four record in games after the buy week under Mike Tomlin. As an underdog, Mike Tomlin is now 56 and 30 against the spread.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Yep. We're very dumb, right? We're very dumb, but we, if you give us the same trend for like six years in a row, we'll eventually catch up to it and learn from that. Mike Tomlin is the easiest coach to bet. Yes. He is who do they play next week? Let's play a whose lines
Starting point is 01:18:46 anyway? Who the Steelers play? Home against the Jacksonville Jaguars. All right. Give us whose lines anyway. I'm going to say Steelers by I want to just be a pick. Yeah. I could just be a pick. Yeah. And I'm going to take the Jaguars. Well, it depends if it's plus one. The line is Jaguars minus one and a half. Okay. So yeah, take the Jaguars. Well, it depends if it's plus one. The line is Jaguars minus one and a half. Okay. So yeah, take the Steelers. Might take the Steelers on. Yeah. Yeah. Take the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And if it switches, then go back on the Jack. So, uh, can he pick and have the best fourth quarter of his entire career today? Well, I was gonna say the, the reason why I think the Steelers might be good is their defense is good. And Deante Johnson coming back is a like, you can see how the offense is completely different when they have a really good possession receiver that Kenny picking go to. Yeah. Also, the offense is a lot better when the refs give you an extra half yard. That's true. That was helpful for them. And then Sean McVagas staring helplessly at the scoreboard, being like, why, why couldn't I have missed this game for the birth of my son? I know. I got that prediction wrong. He did not. He was not born today. Yeah. The, um,
Starting point is 01:19:49 of a coach without a challenge when he knows that he's right, it's helpless. The saddest feeling in the world. And we got very confused because that's where the new rule came in this year, where if you don't get a fourth down, if you don't get the first down on it, it's automatically reviewed, right, Jake? And then if you, if first down on it, it's automatically reviewed, right, Jake? And then if you, if you do get it, it's not automatically. So according to our presentation in the preseason, correct. If it is a failed fourth down conversion auto review, but since this was ruled successful on the field, a challenge would be required.
Starting point is 01:20:20 They had no timeouts. They could not challenge. It was, it was snapped at 224, I believe. So game over over got it. The the Steelers show they credit the Steelers. They are outside of obviously the Niners game and the Texans game like their wins. They there is a formula. They just basically have their defense keep them in it long enough for their offense to wake up. Yeah, they just grind you down on offense. And then George Pickens is the funniest player in the NFL. Oh, the best. He is so funny. I love George Pickens. I love watching him because not only does he throw like hilarious blocks, but he also just is liable at any point in time to start a fight with the other team or the ref or
Starting point is 01:20:55 his own teammate. The moment when he had his hands up after the player like, you know he is getting a flag. Yeah. George Pickens did something very illegal. He also does the thing where he catches a ball close to the sideline and he'll just hold the ball out over the sideline like out of bounds. Yeah. But he's not out of bounds.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But the ball is. Yeah. And he just kind of, he talks trash mid-plug. He needs a get back guy. Yeah. He's a bad guy. He needs a like little buddy that just runs next to him and grabs him after every catch is like, hey, don't throw the ball in the defense of back's face.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And you saw when Deontay Johnson got a similar penalty, Mike Tomlin and I think Deontay Johnson were very upset because it's like, that's, we, in the algorithm, like the game script, we already have baked in at least two penalties for George Pickens. We can't have other wide receivers getting it. Everyone's got to play a clean game, except for George. Because you're not going to get a clean game out of George. And you're right, and that's okay. Because you can play on the edge with a guy like that.
Starting point is 01:21:52 You have one guy do that. It's very funny that his name is George. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Come on, George. It's, it's, he is so much fun to watch. And they're, yeah, I think they're offense like, Jalen Warren is good.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Naji even looked good. I, I think they're offense like Jalen Warren is good. Nausea even looks good. I, I think the Steelers might be good. I, I actually, I just pulled up their schedule. So I think they are going to beat the Jags and everyone's to be really high on the Steelers. Then they have what looks like a prime time. I think it's a Thursday night game at home against the Titans. They'll be like five point favorites.
Starting point is 01:22:25 They'll lose outright. And then they go to the Packers and maybe if the Packers win a game or two, they'll be underdogs and they'll kill the Packers. Yeah. That feels right. Yeah. Did you see, um, do you see Trevor Lawrence's tweet that he had though? So, uh, wait, was that, is that a parody?
Starting point is 01:22:41 No, no, this is actually Trevor Lawrence. Really? He tweeted, y'all keep your opinions and we'll keep finding ways to win eyeball emoji, hashtag analysts, and then it's just a picture of Trevor Lawrence. Oh, I thought that was. I thought that was.
Starting point is 01:22:56 No, this is officially Trevor's account. Oh, yeah, because it's two E's at the end. Yeah, that's why I thought it was maybe a fake account. No, that's it. So when hashtag analysts on us I don't know what analyst have you have you been hearing a lot of Trevor Lawrence hate out there from the analyst community also Trevor Lawrence talk shit. I guess so y'all Your opinions and we'll keep finding ways to win eyeballs
Starting point is 01:23:18 Analyst makes no sense. Are the Rams bad? I don't know. I don't know if the Rams are bad I think the Rams are perfectly average. I think they're like a very average team. Matt Stafford is, he goes through his little streaks, but I think he's still pretty good. Pukin' to Koo is awesome. And he's so much fun to say. And then obviously Cooper Cup, they can score points,
Starting point is 01:23:39 but I don't think they're bad. I don't think they're good. I think they're just there. I think the Rams are like the perfect team for Los Angeles this year. Yeah, they're just, I don't think they're good. I think they're just there. I think the Rams are like the perfect team for Los Angeles this year. Yeah. They're just I'm looking at like all their games right now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to make of the Rams. Because they clearly are not good. No, I think they're probably aren't bad. I think they're the most perfectly average. Yeah. Yeah, they're right in the middle where they'll just beat all the bad teams and lose to all the good ones. Yeah, so by that means that the sealers are good.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah, the sealers are good. Yeah, the sealers are like the, the Dan Campbell team will, they'll just drag you out to the depths of the water and just make it, just swim and outlast you until you drown. And TJ Watt, TJ Watt does everything. He makes at least one or two plays a game that changes the game. Yeah, and the interception was that today. Who's the guy from Wisconsin? That's like mini tour. Her big, her big, Nick, Erbig, Nick Erbig.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I think I'm pronouncing it right. Nicholas Erbig. Yeah, okay. Yeah, they just draft all Wisconsin guys. Smart voters, yeah, play defense. But yeah, I guess I think the Steelers are good. That's my take on the Steelers. Yeah, and they also they turn this into a home game.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Every Steelers away game is kind of home, but especially in LA. There's like this, the community of Steelers fans that moves out of Pittsburgh and then retains the Steelers as being their anchor to their hometown is very, very impressed. Well, it's, I mean, there is like actual sociological would it be? I don't know. It's getting late studies about the diaspora of Pittsburgh because obviously they had all the steals You know and and all this booming industry and then it all went away So everyone moved away and now they're just Steelers fans everywhere. Yeah, that's the that's the one thing that they keep
Starting point is 01:25:18 Yeah, God bless them. Yeah, I mean it is it is true like you meet a you meet a someone from Pittsburgh You know right away and it's stillers. Here we go, stillers, stillers. And then then we got the baseball stillers. Who was the hockey stillers? Who was the rapper that was at the game that turned into a strip club? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Blueface, right? Blueface. Blueface turned the Ram's sideline suite into a strip club. He had like, how many hoses, yeah? I want to say it. I want to say I load a hose. He had like six or seven hoses on there. He was just throwing, okay, so he was making it rain on him.
Starting point is 01:25:50 It was one of those kind of road-boying sideline suites. Yeah, it was like down on the field level, below field level almost. He was making it rain with $1 bills, which is how somebody that didn't have a lot of money would make it rain. It depends though. He spent all his money on the hose.
Starting point is 01:26:08 It depends on how many one dollar bills. Like if you get $50,000 in one dollar bills, now you're all, that's bawling. Yeah, that's true. But if it's like, if you got like $10,000 with the dollar bills, come on. If he's making it rain for the entire game with one dollar bills, then he never stops. Yeah, if Come on. If he's making it rain for the entire game with one dollar bills,
Starting point is 01:26:25 then he never stops. Yeah. If it's got TJ Watts motor making it rain, it's a downpour of there. Yeah. Then that's cool. But if he does that like once a quarter, not that cool. I agree. Yeah. People were not happy about that. Actually. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you think we made that up? I mean, I don't. I guess he does kind of sound like a mad Libs.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I suppose you're a Rams game. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. Rams games. Oh my goodness. Stillers fans don't care. No, they probably could have used some till but tell me down there after it was over. Yeah, there's just, I'll tell you one thing.
Starting point is 01:26:57 If I know anything about people from Pittsburgh, they're strip club guys. Yep, they are. And I say that in a very loving way. They are West Virginia's Pittsburgh Western PA strip clubs. They like them Okay, before we do the last two games and who's back the week? We got one last ad Yeah, before we get to these last games is brought to you by Blu-Too You can have better sex with Blu-Too
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Starting point is 01:29:16 I, I mean, I'm kind of happy because the Packers offense looks really bad and Jordan loved does not look good. I think they had, I saw some crazy stat. The Packers had 10 guys catch a pass, but none of them got over 35 yards receiving. That's pretty impressive. That means that you really are looking for answers everyone. He doesn't have a number one. He doesn't have anything.
Starting point is 01:29:37 The Broncos are kind of looking to trade everybody, but also kind of not. Did you see those reports? Yeah, it's like they're dipping their toe in. They're accepting calls from anybody but they're not reaching out to trade anybody. It's like if you're, we're not getting divorced but we are, we have logged on to Tinder
Starting point is 01:29:53 and we have Tinder accounts where we go. Right. Like we still love each other but if you make an offer. Yeah, I'm listening. Yeah, we absolutely are listening. Yeah, and the Broncos, I mean, turns out that running, I know that,
Starting point is 01:30:04 you know, the entire internet had a years or multiple year long debate about rust cooking. When rust has a good running game, he can cook a little bit better because the Broncos ran the ball very well today. He threw some good, he threw some good passes. Yeah, but it helped. And he's also running the ball a little bit more. So he looks, he looks, he looks, he looks spry and younger than he did at the start of the season Yeah, not as short. Yeah, not as stocky. He looks he is a thick boy now Jordan love is not good Jury still out. I'm gonna give Jordan. Okay fine. Actually, I'm fine with that. I'm gonna give it to find with that
Starting point is 01:30:38 I'm fine with that actually your biggest hope would be here. Yeah, let's let's go into the next He's growing pains guys growing pains growing pain. It's too early to tell the Packers are another bummer team right now I thought for sure that was just like the Packers they always fucking find lucky ways that touchdown pass that he had where he just Rifled it from four yards away and it bounced off one of his guys perfectly new as other guy Chaelin Reed I think caught it. I was like, this motherfucker, they're gonna get away with this, they're gonna win this game. No, I don't, the Packers are not good. Yeah, they're not a good team overall.
Starting point is 01:31:10 AJ Dylan looked pretty good today though. Yeah, he was, he was moving around back there a little bit. He's a big boy, another thick boy out there. Yeah, so the pack, yeah, the Packers have the bummer bowl next week against the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, that's, we're gonna have to watch that. The NFC North is not good. There's a lot of bad guys. The lines played out there. The lines in the lines stunk today.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Yeah, no, the NFC North had a bad day. Yeah, this is like, well, actually, the bears won. So, well, I guess we kind of wait to prop everyone up. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, both these teams, Packers, Broncos, just just downers, downers teams. Great uniform matchup whenever they play. Just thinks of the Super Bowl, whatever year was 97. Yeah, far of L way. Yeah, Gilbert Brown, Mark Slareth. Gilbert Brown was so fat. He was so fat, he was like 400 pounds.
Starting point is 01:31:57 He was so fat. I remember I read in L way helicopter. It was a great Super Bowl. There was a sports illustrated article leading up to that Super Bowl where it was talking about how the Broncos were going to play against Gilbert Brown. It was basically like Mark Schler with pisses himself multiple times a game. Yeah. How do you like that Gilbert Brown? Yeah. Probably not so happy now, are you? And the Broncos won even one in Tural Davis had a migraine. Yeah. So they actually kind of won double. Mm-hmm. Just take
Starting point is 01:32:21 away a packer Super Bowl for that. If you're into that kind of thing. Okay. Last game, chiefs, chargers. The chargers are the worst. I hate them so much. Did you think Travis Kelsey might might be important to the chiefs offense? First half was insane. He had nine catches for a hundred and 24 yards. By the way, we should save for anyone who had the over. That was one of the worst losses. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That you had that 30 41 points in the first half. No points in the second half until the very end when the chief scored a touchdown. That was mean for the picks. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Jake. You thought that that looked like it was
Starting point is 01:33:00 going to be a 75 point game instant class. We should also congratulate the chiefs for winning the AFC West. Yes. Congratulations to the chiefs. Patrick, we're home. 29 and three against the AFC West. Yeah, the chargers are, I think they are gone from maybe if they get healthy, maybe if they get some things right, so they just aren't good.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Well, the defense stinks. Stinks. Defense is second to last in total defense. Brenn Staley did say after the game though, we need to hit the reset button. Oh, so they're hitting reset. Well, the Bears are a good team to reset against. We'll see what they do next week,
Starting point is 01:33:32 but they're officially resetting their season. It's a good time to do it. My homes was 20 of 23 in the first half for 321 yards and three touchdowns. Want to hear another crazy stat? Yeah. So I think in the fourth quarter, Travis Kelsey had, it wasn't a drop pass, it was an incompletion.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And it broke into a streak that they had where Patrick Mahomes passes to Travis Kelsey, 29 targets in a row became a completion. Yeah. 29 in a row. And you know what's crazy is as bad and as unlucky that we think that the chargers are, there's actually services that track like dropped passes, dropped interceptions like just pure luck, fumble luck, that sort of thing. The chargers are somehow
Starting point is 01:34:16 the most lucky team in the NFL this year in terms of those weird plays that go back to the screen. The chargers are the most lucky team. They're just they're a bummer to watch too, even though they should be fun. And Justin Herbert, I know he's got a injured finger on his other hand, but that that interception he threw in the second half. Like I know that it got tipped, but it wasn't it wasn't going anywhere good. They're hitting reset, though, big cat. They're hitting reset. It's reset time reset Also, I forgot to mention this one time I Jordan love the interception Jordan love had at the end of that game Is almost the exact same interception he had at the end of what was the Raiders game? Yeah, where it's like third and long
Starting point is 01:34:57 And then he just airmail is a punt like 40 yards down Right, someone's stomach right. Yeah, it's it's bad decision-making by Jordan. Yes down to someone's stomach. Right. Yeah, it's it's bad decision making by Jordan. Yes. Um, other things. McColle Hardman. Uh, we, it's, we called the chiefs. They've reached their final form of being the Patriots. It's just dominating teams. Even so that like, they're now doing in a little bit different way where they're sneaking up. Like if you're not watching these games, if you're not paying attention, you would be surprised to know that the chiefs have a really good defense now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:26 So like they're, they're shape shifting every year to year. Patrick Mahomes, I think that was his first, like, touchdown pass over 20 yards this year. Like he hasn't been throwing deep because that's just how teams have been defending him. So they're shape shifting and they're now winning in a completely, not a completely different way because it's still Mahomes, but it's definitely a different way than they were winning three years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And part of becoming the Patriots is they brought back McColle Harman and he had a 50 yard punt return that like sealed the game. Yeah, how crazy is it that the chiefs had Tyree kill on this team? I know. But that's it. Yeah, right. Like that's a perfect example. Like they used to do it this way.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Now they're doing a different way. And result is they keep winning and they're the best team they have. And it seemed like today that Andy wasn't doing so much of the goofy shit where he's like fucking around with the other team. Yeah. And it seems like the chiefs,
Starting point is 01:36:14 we always talk about them flipping the switch. I think switch has officially been activated. No, they're just a really fucking good team. And if your chiefs fan, are you still, does it still bring you the same amount of joy watching the bills lose? Like are you still really amped up watching, knowing that maybe the bills aren't even that good this year? Like are you still happy? How long is that going to last? Yeah, who in the AFC? Now that we know, we alluded this earlier, but I think the Ravens might be the second best team in the AFC. Yeah, like publicly,
Starting point is 01:36:41 and we actually have to say that now, public enemy number one for chiefs, fans, when you're like, how come you're sucking this team's dick and you don't say anything about the chiefs, I feel like it's probably the Ravens. Yeah, are the chiefs and Ravens play? I hope they do. I hope they do. That would be a great game. It would be the Ravens and they probably still love it when the Bengals lose to. They do not play. Damn it. God damn it. Put that on the schedule, Roger.
Starting point is 01:37:04 That should flex games. I know. Yeah, they God damn it put that on the schedule Roger. That should flex games. I know. Yeah, they should keep it open week. They should just do a they should do a Twitter poll. Yeah, well, game. Do you want to see the college basketball does that for some conferences? They keep like an open week and they like put the top four teams playing each other. Surprise games. Yeah. How cool would it be if they announced the schedule for the next week on like Sunday night? The new mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. How cool would it be if they announced the schedule for the next week on like Sunday night? The new mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good selection show in between in between the afternoon games and the start of Sunday night football.
Starting point is 01:37:30 They do a selection show for what next week's games are going to be. It'd be a lot of love that. It would suck for traveling if you're like planning to go to an away game, but it would be so fun. Maybe they could figure out a way to sell that show and then use that money and redistribute it to each team that has to then pay for a certain amount of fans every week for like last second travel. I like that idea. Yeah. Which they would never do.
Starting point is 01:37:54 But that would be that would work. Jackson home finally got in the booth with Taylor Swift in the box. Jackson was in Taylor's box. Was in Taylor's box. The Swifties are all kinds of shambles trying to figure this one out. Yeah. Oh, Brittany and Taylor Swift had a nice little handshake that they made up. Yeah, that they executed a couple of times. I like that. I mean, I, I've never, Brittany my homes never bothered me. So I, there's
Starting point is 01:38:18 a lot of people are hand-ranging about all of this because I think that's all Swifties have to do every day is just think about what Taylor Swift is doing every second on every day. But I am enjoying watching other people be distraught about this. Yeah, I don't really, Brittany Mahomes has always been one of those things where people started to read real far
Starting point is 01:38:38 into the relationship based on like one picture that was taken of them back in high school. Well, it's also, I think in this detestment to Patrick We're homes Patrick homes is so likable and people Naturally, we are terrible human beings and we're like we have to hate something and then they just were like, oh We'll hate his wife. Yeah, what's his what's his flaw? Yeah, right? Right. I don't care for his wife pouring champagne It's like no actually he rules and yeah She probably has had a couple clips
Starting point is 01:39:05 where she would have been like, oh, I wish I had that one back. But yeah, she never bothered me and they seem happy. The fact that now Jackson's in the picture with Taylor Swift, I love all of it. I love all of it, Swifties. Figure this one out. You're gonna have some sleepless night Swifties. Yeah the swifties, they make Taylor pass a purity test
Starting point is 01:39:28 for everything. Everything. Remember her old boyfriend went on come town? Yeah, and then they listen to that, and they're like, this is the worst. Taylor can't be associated with this. Also, hanging out with Bernie Kossar today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Bernie's face was awesome. What was that about? He has tongue out like a dog. Yeah, that was a crazy. It was outside ways like a dog with his head out the window on the highway. So the chiefs are good. Yeah, she's really good. Pat from home's best quarterback in the NFL. They have invented new ways. They it really is fascinating to watch them. Kind of change in front of our eyes where they're winning games in different ways.
Starting point is 01:40:03 And that is the testament of like, if you want to become a dynasty, you're never going to have the same roster year to year. And they've changed, they've changed it over a few times. And they're still going to keep winning. And I love watching Isaiah Pateco run. Yeah. It's so angry. So fun. Watch it. He runs like when your dog has a little bit of poop that they're trying to get off their butt. Yep. And just take short little choppy steps. Yep. Uh, you scoop. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Big week for Rutgers football. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Huge weeks. They're bowling, which is weird to, to celebrate.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Yeah. When you're six and two, you got to take that though. You got to take your break. But to be like, we're going, we're like, we're bowl eligible. It's like, well, you're also six and two. Yeah. Should we be happy about that? Yeah. Whatever. All right. Last game. Night game. Max, you were not with us for the first half.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Eagles dominated. I say dominated the dolphins. I am of the firm believer. I love watching the dolphins play football. They're very fun. They are on my fraud list until they beat a real team Thoughts Yeah, now the Eagles pretty much handled it took care of the man did lay today. There's There's not really much else to say Jalen Hertz had two bad plays when other than that looked really good
Starting point is 01:41:17 They put a brace on him, right? I don't I think he was a brace on his left leg. Yeah, we came out in the at halftime where like, his jail and hurts injured and max just kept on saying, no, he's nice. Fine. It's fine. It's fine. Even though we saw him limping. I think he was fine. He played, okay, he had two bad plays and then he played really well.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah. So the Eagles are, are you feel confident in your back to just, I mean, you actually showed up for this game. So credit to you. Yeah. You did. Yeah, no, it was a good game. There's there's not the defense look. The defense is what looked really good. They held the top scorer off into league to 10 points. Yeah. Now tell me about that. Oh, yeah, that is true. 10 points right now, Max. It says I I fuck with Philly, but the fuck is is bleeped out. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:00 a soft shirt. We're a brand safe company here at Barstool Sports. You get it at the store. Right. I fuck with Philly. Nick Cassiano said it on a post game interview and put it on a shirt. I would like to see the full F word on your shirt. Yeah, I would see. That's a little soft. You can take that up with Polar.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Is it mean to call the dolphins frauds or very accurate at this point? I think they're not for real. Yeah, I mean, they have beaten up the Panthers, the Giants, the Broncos, and then the Chargers is their best win Which is going really bad now the Patriots and the Patriots and they have played two really good teams and or well actually the bills might not be really they aren't a really good team right now But they played two teams that are at least playoff worthy teams and the bills and the Eagles and got smoked. Can we also say that the Kelly, you read
Starting point is 01:42:47 jerseys should absolutely be a permanent thing. I said seven points. It was worth seven points. I had it worth six. I had worth seven. And I've hammered the Eagles because of it. And they're just Eagles just mand them up. I didn't even do the calculation, Max, that you held them to 10 points. Yeah. I do think that they wouldn't look as cool if they were them every game, though. They look very 80s. But they look 80s in a in a good way. Yeah. I think they look cool.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Like all the good parts of the 80s. Yeah. Not the AIDS. I'm cool with it all the time or the crack or the crack. Yeah. Well, crack is probably real fun. Your first or second time. Max, so that's it.
Starting point is 01:43:24 You're feeling it sucks when you win Even though I want to but as I bet on them, but yeah, I mean it got interesting for a little bit there But they they basically control that game for 75% of it Jake dolphins of frauds Listen, I'm calling the Germany gaming it's a chiefs a must compete. Oh They get blown out They get blown out. That is loser. If they get blown out, they don't play a good team. loser. That was a week 16.
Starting point is 01:43:48 That was, well, I'm going to play that back for you tomorrow and you're like, what did I say? I think we've thrown the phrase must compete out a few times as a joke on the show. Oh, Jake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, three or 12 and four had against a Christmas and people aren't going to believe it. I'm if they don't win that game or compete in that game. Must compete. What does compete look like? Not like the way they've looked against the Eagles or bills. But they were competing tonight.
Starting point is 01:44:13 It was 17 17 in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Mid-third. Must compete. We think about the reps tonight, Jake. Very bad. But even to itself out the pick six, but zero penalties on the Eagles. Was that final zero penalties? Yeah, they played a clean game. The miss the face, face, Mac, face, yeah, that was bald on a lot. You got it. Touch. Yeah. You know what,
Starting point is 01:44:34 my pet peeve is Jake that officials don't have to do a post game media. Yeah, they do, they do the pool reporter. Yeah, they make one or is that just NBA? I think they type up like a written state. Instead of held to that needs to be a press conference. You want to take back the must compete? You want to keep it? You can keep it. You have to choose one way or the other.
Starting point is 01:44:56 You have to choose right now. Do you want to take back the must compete? No, I won't get peer pressured. Okay. Well, you could easily just say must win. I mean, because it is a must win. If you want to be taking for real, you have to win that game. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:13 If the dolphins compete and lose, I will not change my opinion on the dolphins being frauds. Really? If they lose like 38, 35? No. They have to win. And their defense sucks. They have to win again. They have to win again against a good team for me to, 35. No. Hmm. They have to win. And their defense sucks.
Starting point is 01:45:25 They have to win again. Yeah, they're being done for that, buddy. They have to win again against a good team for me to, to, to be like, yes, this team is for real. You wanna take it back? I mean, at this point, I've dug the hole. Okay, all right. You're getting JLM's back.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Yeah, I'm just looking at the schedule right now and the chiefs are the only good team on their schedule until Christmas Eve. The jets aren't good. They're average. Oh, well, what are the dolphins? What are the dolphins? What are the dolphins?
Starting point is 01:45:53 The jets beat the Eagles. The jets beat the bills. I think the jets are better than the dolphins right now. No. I actually, yeah, I'm actually going to say that. Well, who would win head to head the jets are the dolphins. I think the jets, I think the jets play on black Friday. No, I think the jets play a style of football.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Dolphins cannot play it. I think on black, if they played the black Friday game today, the dolphins will still be favored. Yes. Of course, they'd be favored, but I would bet the jets. No, I mean, I would bet the jets. I think the jets are better. They play defense.
Starting point is 01:46:29 You got to play defense at some point. The jets would, the jets would, the jets would maybe fuck up the dolphins. I kind of agree with Jake that the dolphins aren't as bad as we're making them seem right. No, they're good because they win games, but they're frauds because they can't beat. And I think the jets might, I think the jets could potentially fuck up the dolphins right now. Mims right now, the defense is common where they wouldn't know what to do. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Like I think the dolphins have a problem when coming off the Eagles when good physical defenses is seems like it's their kryptonite. And that and we should say the bills were still healthy when they played them. So their defense was good. I think you're giving the Jets a lot of credit. Well, no headband Zach Wilson is different. Yeah, I just don't I think the dolphins are a finesse team that will beat up beat the shit out of bad teams. They beat them. Oh, yeah. No, no, Where do you think they're not bad? The dolphins are not bad. What do you think about the push push? Gotta figure out a way to stop writing faces.
Starting point is 01:47:33 As long as it's within the rule, but let's make clear. I think the dolphins are good. I think they're fraughts. Like they're those, they're not bad. They're not a bad team. Because they beat up any bad team easily. But if they have to play a playoff caliber team, they're in problem until they can prove to me otherwise. They still do have the best offense in the history of football through this many games. So they are, they are very good on the offensive side. But if they're playing a team that's like super physical, like we saw with the jetsets did the to the Eagles, the Eagles, they might get frustrated.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I think they have to get, they have to be in a rhythm. The Eagles, the Chiefs and the Bills. And the Bills. The Jets played way better against really good teams. That's true. Then the Dolphins have. That's true. I thought the thing with the Dolphins is better.
Starting point is 01:48:22 They must compete against the Chiefs. They did. They did. That's the definition of it. They've definitely what they did. Yeah. And I still think think it's all the better. Hey, Mosh competed against the chiefs. They did. They did. That's the definition of it. Exactly what they did. Yeah. And I still think it's all the better. I, if dolphins fans think I'm, I think I'm being unfair, if they do beat the chiefs,
Starting point is 01:48:34 I will flip my opinion very quickly. I'd be like, okay, they, they just proved to me that they can beat a really good team. But I don't, I don't think I'm being unfair. I think dolphins fans probably deep down whether they want to admit it or not probably agree, right? So they've got, yeah, they've got the patriots at home. That's it. I think they're going to just yeah, they'll win that game and win that one. Then they're going to compete in Germany. And then they're going to beat the fuck out of the Raiders. This is this is goes back to member of the Ravens fraud year. When we said all year, there were frauds and people got upset at us and then they lost in the first round of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:49:07 The last year, the Vikings, like fraud doesn't mean that you aren't a good team. It just means that when you have to play a playoff team, it, I would not bet on you. You can still have fun as a fraud. Oh, yeah. You can enjoy the hell out of this year. And just, just reset the expectations when you get to January. And you can flip the fraud moniker. Like you can play yourself out of fraud into for real.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Yeah. You just need to win a couple of big games. You just need to win in Germany. Yeah. It's very detailed analysis we got here. There's frauds. There's not good teams right now. That's the bills.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Yeah. There are good bad teams, bad good teams. And then there's the Cardinals. And the Panthers. Yeah. Downers of football teams. Yeah, the Saints are downer. It's almost like you'd rather not be that good so we can't call you a fraud. Right. If you had like lost to the Panthers, we would have been like, yeah. Okay, the dolphins are just... Four and three. You know what, the dolphins are? They're up and coming. They're figuring shit out. Yeah, but if you might even say the dolphins could be dangerous. Yeah, it could be dangerous right. Yeah, but the problem. It's the combo of beating the fuck out of these bad teams, then having everyone be like, look at how incredible this offense is. We've never seen anything like it. That's when you unfortunately fall into the fraud category. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 01:50:23 how could they be frauds? The dolphins? They have no history of anything Because they they're often they're like breaking right off into the half of the team. It's towards 70 points. Yeah, it's got so high for that I think I would I would take the jets in the in a game right now if they played tomorrow It's honestly a blessing. It's a mixed bag, really, but it's good to be known as a fraud in a sick way because it means that you've put enough good stuff out there. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:56 It means you can't be awful. Yeah, you can be awful. No, you know, frauds are not bad. Frauds are super well contented. These frauds have to be good enough to be called fraud. You'd rather be a fraud than a bum. I don't know if frauds are super bowl contenders. I would disagree.
Starting point is 01:51:09 A fraud is never a real Super Bowl contender. Cause you won't get there. At one point? No. That's why they're frauds. That's exactly the right. That wasn't that one here. They were the one seed, right?
Starting point is 01:51:17 And they were frauds. It's also beautiful because if they never got to be a contender. If they get to a Super Bowl, then they can't have been frauds. Right. Because they be good teams. You understand?
Starting point is 01:51:26 We win no matter what. Right. Okay. But like, the fraud is by definition, I just don't think they have any chance to win. No matter what, this is casual, says. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:51:36 We'll reassess when they play the chiefs. That guy and catch me if you can, he was a fraud, but he had a great time. Yeah. Awesome time. Really good time. He was never gonna be president. No. Okay. Should we do who's back of the week. Let's do it. Uh, who's back of the week? Question. Who's back of the week? PFT? It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com promo code
Starting point is 01:51:56 take 20% off your QZips Polos hoodies joggers shorts. Uh, promo code take rowback.com right now. I'm wearing the joggers. I wear the joggers constantly. They are the best promo code take at rowback.com, rhoback.com, dolphins fans would be mad at us for that for sure. I think the lunatic is just ultimate recency bias. No, but that's not the bad and prime time against the Eagles. And the Eagles just lost the J. Well, no, the bills. And that's it. Yeah. Yeah, but it is recency bias, but also the recent game that they played was against by far their best opponent. And I also, I thought they were frauds going into this game.
Starting point is 01:52:33 That's why I bet the Eagles. Right. So it's not really like that's. Yeah, Dolphins fits. I think if the Jets be Jets lost to the Eagles last week, you would not even consider we're saying that. What? If the Jets what? lost to the Eagles last week. You would not even consider saying that. What? If the Jets what?
Starting point is 01:52:46 Lost to the Eagles last week. Because the Jets played a game this week and lost. You wouldn't be saying that. No, I still would have think, I would think the Jets would give them a very hard time. Because the Jets played very good defense. They do. They played really good defense.
Starting point is 01:52:59 So I, yeah, I would think the Jets, I would take the Jets and the game against dolphins right now. Right. I would. We'll find out in a couple of weeks. Just who? And just so dolphins fans know the bears stink. So you don't have to tell me that I like that. That's my favorite when they're like, I can't believe you call this frauds bear stink. Like I the bears are trash. Yeah, just manners are also just because we like we think no better than anybody else. Yeah. What a bad football team looks like. Yeah. Yeah. There was a year where the pairs went like
Starting point is 01:53:29 Seven and one to start the year and they had It was like it was some ridiculous thing where they scored like a pick six or a fumble We're covering like every game and the whole time I was like well this can't last like you know that this can't last You can't do this every game. All right Rowback.com promo code take. Who's back in the week? PFT. Yeah. My who's back in the week. I'm just going to put Blink 182 was being back. They dropped a new album on Friday. It sounds like it was recorded in 2005. I mean that in like the best way possible. It's just good to have sometimes you can you can follow band for their entire career. And they just put out a banger
Starting point is 01:54:03 that sounds exactly like they sounded, you know, 17, 18 years ago. It's a good album. I give it, I give it four balls out of five. Yeah. It was like very, very nostalgic listening. Max, you listen. I did. Favorite song in the album. I'm anthem part three. Anthem part three. They should just release an entire album. That's just anthem part three. Anthem part four. Anthem part five.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Because all the anthems will pass. I need to listen to this, because I do love Blink 1-8-2 as well. It's good. They kept it like the formula is the same. Yeah, just dick jokes and a couple songs about almost dying. Okay, good, because I hate when a really popular band then gets older and just changes their entire sound. Yeah, no, it's vintage.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Okay, it does sound, it's vintage. Okay. It does sound like it's 2005 again. It's not a bad thing to like be a cover band of yourself. No. In fact, it's, if you're a good band, it's a good thing. Yeah. Yes, it's a great thing.
Starting point is 01:54:55 All right. My who's back the week is Playoff Baseball. We have had some awesome Playoff Baseball Friday night, the Al-Tu-Ve home run, which Al-Tu-Ve might be the most clutch guy since Big Poppy. Yeah, he's what number two in post season home runs now? Like every big moment, he comes up huge and then we had an incredible Phillies Diamond Bax game on Friday night with the Diamond Bax even the series and the Phillies won on Saturday
Starting point is 01:55:21 night. Max, how are you feeling going into game six? Oh, and by the way, the Rangers, Nathan of Aldi has been like the best pitcher in playoff baseball shoved again tonight. And the Rangers just forced a game. And the Benz is cleared on Friday night. Yeah. That was awesome. Yep. He won 100% in the past. And Garth, you hit a grand slam. Yeah. I disagree. So why would you wait? Hit him in his back, dude. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:55:48 I don't think it was a purpose. He hit him in his back. Why the hell would you put the winning runoff? How do you miss that bad? Sometimes a ball just gets away from you. I don't. There's no way. He hit him in his back.
Starting point is 01:56:01 I agree with Max on this one. Oh, no. In a game that means that much, you don't put that guy on bass. I understand, but the way, where, like if it was, if it was like high and tight, he hit him how you would hit him if you were doing it on purpose. He correct, correct. That's how you would do it,
Starting point is 01:56:17 but you would never do it in that spot. With no out, there's no way. Yeah, and then Dusty Baker just refusing to leave. That was awesome. was awesome cool, too Yeah, that makes me go that we're gonna do shove me out of here What would they have done if dusty had just been like fucking I'm not leaving or was something about it was If they the braille just appealed it so he won't have to sort of the suspension right Is that true? I don't know
Starting point is 01:56:43 Okay, no one should be suspended like Yeah, no, no one should be suspended. Yeah, I want to see the best players out there. I thought he did on purpose. Uh, that was an awesome, awesome game, awesome series game seven tomorrow night. So Max, uh, you have now the four o'clock game. Yeah, it stinks. How are you feeling? Feel good going home to the bank. Aaron Noel has been really good. These playoffs, I will say he's always, there's always the possibility of a stinker from him.
Starting point is 01:57:17 But the bats came back strong last night. You got to feel good going into the bank. You got to feel good going into the bank. Yeah, a Braille pitch tonight by the way. So he did appeal. Is this a must win for the bank? No. No. Well, one of, yeah, you must win one of the next two. Max, you do this every single postseason. Well, I have an opportunity to take one at the bank. No, but then like what then like once game seven then like once game seven coming, you would just say, oh, this series is over. You already said the series is your must win to us. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:50 I don't think I would say that. I thought yesterday was a must win. Must compete, Max. Must compete is loser talk. Loser talk. Loser talk. Is Mike Traut going to be at the game? The release game?
Starting point is 01:58:02 He was at the Eagles game. That would be hilarious if he was at the Phillies game. He loves having his thoughts free. So he can't watch what he hears about. That would be show embarrassing. It was show embarrassing. He should do it.
Starting point is 01:58:13 I know that he's just he's watching it at home, but he can't do that. But yeah, Friday Friday night's loss was absolutely devastating. I I hadn't felt that way since the Eagles lost. Yeah, you were spiraling. I was spiraling.
Starting point is 01:58:24 I was spiraling. I was spiraling. Just tweeting nonsense. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. I don't know what was, I was really, really upset with that one on Friday night. I was also, I was being a lunatic in that poor. Yeah, well, you're kind of a lunatic. Yeah, I don't know if there's being a lunatic,
Starting point is 01:58:42 it's just being max. Yeah, yeah. I like I don't know if there's being a lunatic. It's just being Max. Yeah. Yeah. I like didn't watch this. I walked away from my, the table of my friends in the second inning. I didn't talk to them the rest of the night. I just kept going from different spot to different spot in the bar by myself. Also, Max, I know that, you know, you've, you've been on this podcast for a little over a year now, like not to to our own horn, but we are a pretty big podcast and you've gotten a little bit bigger of a following. You can't just tweet out a picture being like, here's my TV set up and three random girls
Starting point is 01:59:19 in it. You can't do that. Yeah. You can't do that. No, yeah, last night was bad for me. Like, how did you think that was gonna go? I don't know. The TV setup was good though.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I saw it, I was like, Max, Max. I mean, I didn't know that girls were. You have a following now. I know you didn't know those poor girls. It's like, you, you, you, people just going off in the comments, like, you got to, I was just excited about the TV. I know you were. I know it was an innocent thing.
Starting point is 01:59:46 I didn't think anything different. I just, it was more like a max doesn't realize like he's got a following. I'm not a smart guy. No, I have the perfect bar viewing situation to. I also, that could make all the difference. And it's just a picture of three girls. It's crazy. And when I saw it, it was like, Jesus Christ, Max.
Starting point is 02:00:03 You can sometimes, sometimes Max sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes Man, um, okay. Yeah, so prediction max I'll say seven to again Phil's I would love to win tomorrow and not have to have the anxiety of a game I'm like getting I'm stressing out thinking about it. Yeah I'm like getting I'm stressing out thinking about it. Yeah, that would be no. I that's what I need though. I know that's that's what everybody needs That's what everyone I maxed with it all on the line. Oh, and then Rico's stupid face. I Can't look at Rico's stupid face Let's go. Let's just go in tomorrow. Let's just go in tomorrow
Starting point is 02:00:40 Sounds like it's must win. Yeah, because you already know you're gonna melt down game seven. I for your cardiovascular health, this is a must win. I would melt down big time. Yes, you would probably get your heart attack. Yeah. You would probably get your heart attack. If you make tomorrow must win, you don't have to worry about that. No, we'll do it.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Because if I did that and they lost, what would you do come come to his day? I'd support my friends. You would say this get this you already said this series is over. No, it's important. My friend. No, you wouldn't. No one no one supports me for a WL she should be rooting for a game seven because we will live stream.
Starting point is 02:01:16 I'm not rooting for a game seven. I'm not either. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. I'm rooting for the Phillies. I have a future on the Phillies. I'm rooting for Phillies. You I know if I told you that Max you'm rooting for Philly's. I don't know if I told you that, Max. You are rooting for a game seven.
Starting point is 02:01:28 I out. But then I need the Philly's to win. You don't, you don't though. I do. You need to see what tears. I need the Philly's to win so then I can hedge and then I want tears. It's a very simple formula. Max, have a question about the setup that you had the other night when you were watching
Starting point is 02:01:48 the game. Did you spend it with the three girls? Yeah, did you spend it on the game? I don't know, man. I don't know. Did you rip your shirt off? I did not rip my shirt off. I didn't mean it.
Starting point is 02:02:00 I didn't mean it. I'm sorry if they ever saw anything. I just wanted to watch. I was just excited to watch the game. There's a good TV set up. There's good TV set up. Yeah. All right, Jake, you're who's back. My who's back is security guards tackling fans. Yeah. We've got a few of them. And over the last two weeks, the most recent in Tuscaloosa. This guy leveled a fan. This one was after the game.
Starting point is 02:02:22 I don't know if it needed that much violence when the game was over. It's not really... The security guard got like a 20 yard head start on that hit. Yeah, just laid him out. I understand what it's targeting actually. During the game and it's stopping play and there's millions of people waiting on you, but this one after the game.
Starting point is 02:02:38 I don't know about that. That was targeting. No, but he went ahead to head on that. You gotta remember security guards, like they live for these moments. When they can tee off on someone That's that is they're super and what was earlier this week Philly There's one of the Philly's yeah, that one rock rock the best was the reaction
Starting point is 02:02:53 No, that was after that was after the game the reaction of the bullpen players are on the seeing seeing that guy get lit up was Awesome. I got no problem with it light them up the other thing is it's kind of like a dog chasing you. Like if you don't run, you won't get lit up. If you're just walking, you won't get lit up. This guy in Alabama wasn't running. He was just standing still, right? No, he was running. I don't know where he was running though.
Starting point is 02:03:18 He was running. He was running. Like people go on field all the time after a game. Also, that's what makes going on a field fun is knowing that you could get lit up at any second. Yeah, the second they stop doing that, then it just becomes boring to be on the right. No, I'm all in favor of what most dangerous game that you're playing. Again, because these are like when you sign up to be a security guard at a stadium.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Like it's, it can't be the easiest job. Can't be the most fun job. Yeah, you just pray that someone goes on the field You can just light them up. You should get helmet stickers too. Yeah, you should. Yeah You should get that yeah, and they're like it's successfully, you know, keeping the fans from rushing on the field So we need to see like okay, the fans getting jacked up is awesome I do like it once a year when one guy gets away from everybody Oh, yeah, it makes it back to the crowd because that breathes new life and on the field it is. Yes, that as awesome. I do like it once a year when one guy gets away from everybody. Oh yeah. It makes it back to the crowd because that breathes new life and
Starting point is 02:04:06 it's all on the field. It is. Yes. That is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. Good show, boys. I can already tell Dolphins fans would be very mad. I'm gonna have to argue with them. I'm fine with that. Are we said going into this game that if the dolphins lose? Here's the only thing I'll say is they did have some bad penalties, uh, rolled against them. And also the lines might be on fraud watch. If we're being fair, if we're being fair, they beat the chiefs. They did beat the chiefs. That's a long time ago. It was a long time ago. In arrow. I don't think the lines are frauds. I'm saying they could be on fraud watch without Travis Kell. So your Chris Jones. Oh good point. That's a good point man. It's fun watching fraud watch.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Who's it gets fan base is so nice. Of course I'd be so pissed too. I mean your whole rankings on Tuesday should just be totally understand why like why wouldn't you be upset if your team is winning and someone calls me fraud? That is your right as a fan to be mad. But so we are as a podcast. I wanted to say we have been pretty good fraud detectors. So here's the thing about the line. The Lions.
Starting point is 02:05:19 They could win their next like eight games, right? And the last memory we have of them losing is getting their ass kicked by the Ravens. Right. So it's almost like they're going to become more fraudulent. Right. The more of these games that they win. Yeah. So right now they're like a four out of 10 on fraud watch. As they win these games, the fraud watch will actually increase. Yeah. And two of their next four games are going to be in prime time. So you're going to want to love them even more. You thanksgiving and then you're Monday night next week. Yeah, I think those are the two teams that are on fraud watch.
Starting point is 02:05:50 I don't think there's any other teams that are on fraud watch. Cause like again, the bills, I think they're just not good. They're not good. They're not good. Like that's not like I think the lions and dolphins are good. They're just frauds. Hmm. Who else would be on fraud watch?
Starting point is 02:06:04 Right. Who do you think is a better chance to win the Super Bowl? The dolphins are good. They're just frauds. Who else would be on fraud watch right now? Who do you think is a better chance to win the Super Bowl? The dolphins are the bills. Uh, yeah, that's the thing. Right now, it's still the I-O. I don't think bills, yeah. Yeah, yeah, if the bills got healthy, I would say the bills. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Right now, I would say dolphins. Oh, what? I would say dolphins, the bills are bad right now. I understand, but I think I still think I would take the bills. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, the I think I still think I would take the bills. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, the bills killed the dolphins. Like, I think if you're saying that dolphins are potentially frauds, the bills have to be in that category.
Starting point is 02:06:33 No, they're not frauds because I think they're just not good right now. But like frauds, frauds are the big picture. Like everyone's, I think, I think here's the difference. The bills were frauds after they beat the commanders and the raiders. That's where they were at their most fraud. And now they're just, they've played really bad three weeks in a row. So if you're the lions, you would almost like to get a couple tough losses right away.
Starting point is 02:06:53 So you're no longer frauds. You can get out of fraud, Bill, by either beating a really good team or looking really bad for an extended stretch. Yep. So that's the opposite way you want to go. Right. So yeah, frauds good. In a sense,'s the opposite way you want to go. Right. So yeah, fraud's good.
Starting point is 02:07:06 In a sense, yeah, you're just never going to win anything, but yeah. But it's better than where the bills are. Right. So for example, the bangles, like if the vikings aren't frauds right now, right? Right. Because they're just, they're three and three. Yeah. If the Vikings had lost a couple more games last year, they would have gotten out of
Starting point is 02:07:21 fraud watch. Mm-hmm. Because they've been like, well, no, they're not that good. Yeah, yeah. It's a very delicate balance. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. But again, we don't get a lot of things
Starting point is 02:07:31 right on this podcast. I actually think that we're pretty good fraud detectors. Yeah, we have a good track record of fraud detector. So for example, the Texans could go in a little hot streak because they have a pretty easy schedule coming up. The Texans might play their way into fraud watch. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:47 The team like the Texans should never be. Well, not right now. Not right now. But if they stack up. If they stack bodies. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to say, Max? I think there has to be a sense of expectations, though. Right. To be fraud. And they have to also be talked about in a way. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Like, I don't think the Texans would ever be in that category because they had so low expectations coming to the year. Yeah, probably not, probably not. Okay, numbers, last time before the lottery ball machine, which we have, we can have it allegedly, allegedly. I was in the office. Oh, you thought I did not see it. Oh, interesting. Memes have you ever gotten this? Nope. Shane, what's your number? 10, 18, 20,
Starting point is 02:08:33 Shane, do you want to say anything about the chargers? Shane is a chargers fan. Well, we should maybe get Shane. We should do a Shane minute. Actually, maybe Sunday night when the bears play the chart, if the bears beat the chargers, blow up your whole franchise. That's an abomination. That's the biggest thing I want to take on this show. There's no way we can win that game. Luna taking just like a weird, weird guy move. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Why? He never had Chipotle before he moved to New York. He doesn't eat food. That's basically the number one thing. Yeah, we might have to do a deep dive into Shane. Love Shirley Temples. Love Shane basically the number one thing. Yeah, we might have to do a deep dive into Shane. He loves Shirley temples. Love. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Shane, I know you got down like that. Shirley temples. I love Shirley Temple. Yeah, they're very. We went to that like really nice stay-cows in Louisiana and Shane got a Shirley Temple. Shane, talk to them Mike. I got one at LaBersh, the stay-cats.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Yeah, so you just get Shirley temples no matter what He's saying yes I kind of like that move. It's it's a strong order Shirley temples are delicious They are so much sugar. Yeah Like you're basically just eating candy and dirt It's just water and sugar every and then a cherry with more sugar on top. I guarantee you every time a bartender pours a Shirley Temple and is sending it out to the server.
Starting point is 02:09:50 They're like in their head. There's a pregnant lady that order like a 12 year old. Yeah. Shane, one last thing answer this question. Is there anything worse in the world? I actually think that Shirley Temple's might this might be the only drink when they don't put enough gratitude in it. It be the only drink when they don't put enough granite in it. It is the worst drink in the world.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Yeah, it's not good, but I don't know. I don't really like the cherries either. What? What? Wait, what? So you just like, granite? Yeah. You just like red sprig.
Starting point is 02:10:18 No, I like the, I just like the syrup. Yeah, the granite. It's cherries. Did you know the name of the syrup? Yeah. Isn't that cherry syrup? It's granite. Yeah, but isadine. It's cherries. Did you know the name of the syrup? Yeah. Isn't that cherry syrup? It's grenadine. Yeah, but it's like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:28 So you don't like the cherry flavor? Uh, I don't like the cherries himself, but the cherry flavor. Why don't you like the cherries? Just not my favorite thing. And just like the drink. But it's actually made of pomegranate. It's underrated drinks.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Oh really? Is it really ingredients? Yeah. Wow. So wait, so hold on. You, cherries are not your favorite thing, but you, your favorite thing is the only drink that has cherries in it.
Starting point is 02:10:53 Well, it's not my favorite thing. I just enjoy them. Is it your favorite drink? Now, I'm probably just straight up spray but just to treat myself. Okay. Yeah. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:11:04 Why do you get the truth? Why do you get the truth? We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane.
Starting point is 02:11:12 We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane.
Starting point is 02:11:20 We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane. We're gonna do a deep dive on Shane, we just gonna do like 20 questions with Shane. Yeah, like what, you know, like have you ever had this? It's kind of like the are you garbage guys? The answer will be no.
Starting point is 02:11:31 He hasn't had anything. What an enigma. Have you ever had shrimp? Oh, oh. I have the seafood's not really, not really my thing. What is your thing? Chicken tenders. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Alright, part of my chicken tenders. You're five-year-old. That's fine, plug-out. I have no problem with having, I actually like people like you because it's like, gasses like that. You just eat like a five-year-old. He makes hanks like spice tolerance,
Starting point is 02:11:59 look like he's on hot ones. Yeah, hanks is kind of a five-year-old eater too. And I like guys like that because it's just like, you know that you can kind of, they're never really going to complain about anything because they'll just get chicken, fat tenders or grilled cheese wherever they go. All right, numbers.
Starting point is 02:12:16 Shane has 10. It's one. 69. I have 20 max as three. It's on three right now, Max. So picking on the number. I've never seen it pick the same number. Three.
Starting point is 02:12:29 Okay, strong. 84. Last one before the lottery ball. I can't wait to hear those balls on Tuesday. Yep. Whoa. All right. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah, I can't wait to do those guys just clapping around well good news is Jake the must compete is now not the worst thing he said Love you guys I'm talking away, I don't know what I'm saying
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