Pardon My Take - NFL Week 7 Recap, Deion Sanders And Fastest 2 Minutes

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

NFL Week 7. Fastest 2 minutes (2:27 - 8:48). Recapping every game. Seahawks play another insane game. The Falcons invent a new way to lose a game. Baker was on fire. The Steelers hold off on the Titan...s and we disagree on who the Titans are. Cowboys continue to be laughably bad but Mike McCarthy is now relatable. Cam Newton looked off and the Bucs officially are a problem (8:48 - 101:28). World Series talk (101:28 - 107:11). Deion Sanders joins the show to talk NFL Week 7 (107:11 - 120:50). Who's back of the week and football guy of the week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, Week 7, Recap. The boys, they're not pressed, they're in a good mood, because we had Cardinals late Sunday night. It was a quadruple winner. Oh my God, what a game.
Starting point is 00:00:24 We'll recap every single game on Sunday, including that one. We have fastest two minutes. We have 10, 15 minutes with Deion Sanders, talk a little bit about what it looks like to have a players-only meeting in the NFL, football guy of the week, who's back of the week, a little baseball talk, yeah? A little World Series baseball talk, which has been incredible. We have it all, and it's coming up for you in a second. Brought to you by Cash App.
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Starting point is 00:02:27 Go download it right now. Use code BARSTEL. You get $10 for free, $10 to the ASPCA. Today is Monday, October 26th, Week 7. What? What? We started Cleveland with the Battle of Ohio, and Long Island Ice Tea Higgins was trying to rum up the score as Odell Beckham got knocked down and didn't get up again.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And as someone who went to Brown University, I would like to wish my sincerest condolences to OBJ and wish him a quick and speedy recovery. Donovan, here's the church, here's the steeple, look inside and see all the people's Jones found God in the form of a Baker Mayfield pass to finish off a thrilling victory in Cincinnati. And the Cleveland Browns are 5-2. Browns 37, Bengals 34. What?
Starting point is 00:03:29 In Nashville, where I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my Mike Tomlin, had the team ready to go in the pregame, telling his guys, you don't get to coast until you put in the pedal work. AJ Brown-eyed girl was skipping and jumping, making love in the green grass behind the stadium to the tune of 153 yards and a score. It looked like Juju Smith, Simon and Schuster closed the book on the Titans comeback, but Stephen Glansberg Gaskowski had a super bad kick to tie the game and will be standing with all his friends in the post-game locker room.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Stale is 27, the Tennessee Titans 24. Some spread. In Washington, where we start with a verbal meme, Antonio Banderas Gibson realizing he's going against the Cowboys defense sits back in his seat, yes. The Cowboys dreadful season is now the CD lamb chop song. This is the season that never ends, yet we got a really shit defense. Jerry Hard, Mike McCarthy even though he really sucks and will never win a Super Bowl goal, again just because this is the season that never ends.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Way down yonder on the Ben D'Nucci, Dalton had the starting job for a scaramucci, the Washington football team. 25. Up 95 to the metal lands where, this is your captain speaking, we now commit hyperdrive, as the Jets scored not one, not two, not three, not four, but ten points and a losing effort. Not too far from Tony Sopranos old stopping grounds, Tyler Bigmouth Billy Bass said, take me to the river, flop around like I'm St. Arnold, if you're asking where have all the Cowboys gone, Paula Cole Beasley is on the bells and Buffalo fans are saying, I don't
Starting point is 00:05:18 want to wait, far lives to be over before the bells win a Super Bowl. Bills 18, the New York football Jets 10. In Atlanta where Raheem Zach Morris wishes he could pause time with 104 to go in the fourth, but is running back, Todd Squirrely couldn't help but get that nut, only to get run over by Matt Stafford with zeros on the clock, TJ McCollum Hawkinson stepped back to freedom and blasted off in Arthur Blank's face and Matt, make America pray again, walked out after a tough 60 minutes declaring himself the victor. Lions 23, Thalcans 22.
Starting point is 00:05:55 In LA where I can't feel my face when I'm in shoe is looking forward to moving on from a bad weekend after Sunday's game, Justin Herbert went out for a play and Easton Stick, huh? I don't even have anything for that teach, that's just a baseball bat. There might be a little Jost in the bottle, Herbert is aging nicely, Geraldine Saturday night's all right for Guyton said, sorry Colin Elton Johnson, but the pitch is back as the Chargers get their second win of the season. Chargers 39, the Jaguars 29.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Up to mile high where once you pop, Drew Cantlock as Byron don't at me, but sour cream and onion is the best flavor of Pringle ran a kick back for a score. Jerry Judy Bloom is a good young adult, but Patrick Mahomes is already reading defenses at a genius level. Seeing my good friend Candy Reid on the sidelines reminded me to be the first to wish all you young kids out there a happy Halloween, full size candy bars at Uncle Schwarm's house for the kids. Do-da-dos for the adults, you know, the ones that give you the nice pop.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They got the do-da-dos. They got the codeine boom. Get the do-da-dos. A little bit of codeine. A little bit of codeine. Thank you, nice pop. Lions 23, Thalcans 22. Standing on the corner, James Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to see.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's an old friend, my lord, with a hog like a sword goes by the name of Teddy B. Come on, Jay Cook, these corners stay shook. Michael Thomas on the hot seat, turning your playbook. Saints 27, Panthers 24. Saints go marching. We finished in Arizona where the Cardinals defense could use our little Bubba Sparks. Boota, boota, boota, boota, rocket everywhere. And he could, he could go all DK.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Metcalf catches him from behind to get back that touchdown he gave up against Dallas. Tyler, you lock it up. No, you lock it up. Remember, the rule number three, for the amount of touchdowns he had, play like a champion, no excuses. Russell and Flo Wilson said, it's hard out here for a simp as the Seahawks fall to the Cardinals in overtime, 37 to 34. Hey, boom, we forgot.
Starting point is 00:08:21 No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. All right, week seven in the books, Sunday Night Football, the Livered, the Seahawks should play every single Sunday night. It just should happen. It should be a standing occasion because their games make no sense. And we thought it was going to be the DK Metcalf game because DK Metcalf is the fastest human being alive. Like I, he's scary fast.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I know he's not faster than Usain Bolt, but I think he might be. I thought you, you could have just ended after you because he's not faster than you. I know he's not. He is fucking terrifying how fast he is. See, seeing a dude that size run that fast in the like first 15 meters that he had, 15 yards, the amount of ground that he covered was nuts. He was almost as fast as Daniel Jones. If you look it up with, you actually take the look at the advanced stats, Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:09:15 ran faster than DK Metcalf, which tells me I no longer trust the nerds radar. The nerds got it wrong. The eyeball test tells me DK is the fastest human being to ever step foot on grass. That's like the time I, I met the guy at Wrigley who does the stat cast and I was like, so what's the deal behind this? He's like, I kind of guess you just make it up. Yeah. I was like, dude, you really?
Starting point is 00:09:35 He's like, yeah, I like, I have some numbers, but at the end of the day, like I'm kind of guessing. Yeah. The NFL had to get us talking about that Thursday night game more. So they just tossed that stat out there that Daniel Jones is like the fastest human being to ever. It's crazy. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:09:48 The Seahawks are just insane. They should play at least every week. They should be in prime time, but it is a good, it's a good Sunday night nightcap. We've basically stumbled. This season was weird as it has been. We've stumbled upon the perfect schedule Thursday night has to feature an NFC East team Sunday night has to have the Seahawks and you have to have two Monday night games and a Tuesday night game.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yes. And then you have your perfect schedule. That is absolutely the best way to do it. It was a credit to the Cardinals because that felt like a game. They were never in a million years going to win. Like I'm talking from the beginning when the Seahawks just walked down the field and we're up 7-0. We all looked because we all took the Cardinals right.
Starting point is 00:10:25 There's no chance the Cardinals can win this game and they just hung around and they hung around and Kyler Murray, I don't know what it is like he can. He there's there's not many quarterbacks right now who can go from has this guy ever played football to Oh my God, he's the greatest ever as quickly as Kyler Murray. Yeah. No, every play he is. He is definitely in danger of either fumbling the ball and getting hit after just like standing in the back of the pocket for 10 seconds or scrambling for like 20 yards or hitting
Starting point is 00:10:51 a guy on like a long pass for 40 that that that he made some incredible passes. But that throw when the Seahawks threw an interception and then the next throw he threw one. One of the worst passes all weekend right like it was and I'm counting college football to it was that bad. Yeah. But that's Kyler Murray like he's I he's a young quarterback figuring it out and I would I definitely think that he's going to be around for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But there are times when you're like what is going on right now. A little fun stat about the game tonight. This is the first ever matchup of two sub six foot quarterbacks who both passed for over 250 yards. Oh wow. So this was actually a huge win the short for the five nine community over the five 10 community. The same weekend that the app comes out on the iPhone where everyone can can now just
Starting point is 00:11:36 point it at people and get their height. I'm actually looking forward to that because that'll just reveal me there's a big there's conspiracy theorists out there that think that I'm like five five five six right. So the more I get cameras pointed at me the more the truth comes out where oh yeah he was only lying by one and she's five eight. Well and also you you got your lifts in I I'm wearing the lifts right now the zoom seven 20s. But yeah it was I have another fun fact for you ready for it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 If the playoffs started right now the Bears would be the one seed. That is a very fun fact. Isn't that a fun fact. Apologize. You guys have home field into the Super Bowl. Yes. Not going to apologize for that. Now we haven't played yet.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We still got to play Monday night and also there's more than half the season left. Yeah. You know what's the old saying like if you don't stop and smell the roses every now and then. You gotta appreciate where you are as a Bears fan. Like if you don't stop and claim one seed after six seven weeks what's the point of watching football knowing that it's all going to fall apart. You should.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You should become like full on Corona bro at this point and advocate for the season to be shut down. Yes. That way when it does restart oh we have to only do the playoffs Bears are the one seed. I might for health. I might put up a banner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 If the playoffs started after six weeks or seven weeks pre Monday night game Bears would be the one seed. Yeah. I I get a verbal mean for you. Yeah. The little guy who pokes his head around the corner whispering Josh Allen for MVP back on now that Russell Wilson through three touchdowns in a prime time game. Did you did you.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Did you watch. No I'm not. We'll get to the bills. Just game in a little bit. I'm just saying so this this game will definitely be a point like a factor for people to look at and be like yeah I'm not going to vote for Russell Wilson. I don't think it's probably Aaron Rodgers back on right right but but still the oh wait so so the ending though we got to talk about this real quick.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So well one I think I think Russell Wilson. I hate to be the guy who like when a really good player plays poorly at any point you're like well he must be injured but I think he got fucked up on that advanced Joseph Blitz where he sent the house on that third down and just like no one was there to block him and so that the pick to Isaiah Simmons which is an incredible play by Isaiah Simmons but Russell Wilson looked a little often over time which great point by Jake I do not know why they made it 10 minutes. It makes no sense like player safety.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah there's a player safety five minutes. There's really no point whatsoever. All does is increase the amount of ties which I'm OK with for the record like I'm OK with having a few of those ties to screw things up. I guess it also increases stupidity because Cliff Kingsbury took a page out of Matt Nagy's playbook who did this last year this exact same thing on second down when you can get more yards and decided not only could he get more yards but he could waste more clock and he decided not fuck it.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I'm going to kick it on second down like a 40 plus yarder with two 30 left. I get why you do that on third down. That would make a little bit of sense because then you can spike it if you want to clock. Yeah. And then he he iced his own kicker because they took too long getting the snap off. Yes. I had to call time out on him but yeah they ended up ended up working out for the Cardinals. I agree with you that Seahawks are just they need to be featured in prime time.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's just so much fun. I like I would like to see a study done of fan bases and see like which which team actually affects the lifespan of their fan bases mostly because I think that probably being a habitual smoker of crack cocaine is healthier for you than being an active Seahawks fan. I don't know. Browns fans probably are number one like lowest life expectancy but yeah it's a different life. It's a different shortened life.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Uh huh. The Seahawks are like burnout. The Browns fans are just dying just like slowly eating like terrible. I'm saying not eating terrible food but like eating terrible football that will just kill you like from inside out. Well also more you away. Several pierogies I think eating worse food is probably right in Seattle they get at least a lot of fish.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Sushi. They stay healthy. The Seahawks like if you just put them on on a Sunday night like you can guarantee a few different things. It's Russell Wilson throwing a moon ball that you've never seen before and you're just like how the fuck did he do this. Some insane catch by Tyler Locketer DK Metcalf. The Seahawks being down and then the Seahawks being able to come back and this one was reversed
Starting point is 00:15:52 because they were up and they lost the game but the Seahawks are I think the pinnacle team in the NFL right now where no matter what the situation is you're like shit's gonna get weird. Yeah shit is gonna get weird if they're up by 10 shit's gonna get weird if they're down by 10 shit's gonna get weird it's all it is the Seahawks the Seattle Seahawks are playing Mario Kart and if you're in a spot you're gonna get a lightning and if you're in the first spot you're gonna get hit by a blue shell and DK Metcalf got three mushrooms when he was chasing down Buddha Baker on the sidelines right yeah it's crazy shit like that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Shout out to Larry Fitzgerald for being out there he is like yeah well not only is he out there but he's playing X he's playing the Y receiver he's in the slot he's also the the side judge who's now in charge of spotting the balls yes at the end of the game he's done this for like I don't know if you knew that yes yes for the Vikings right when they had you know that team yeah he is probably like he's done this I think three weeks in a row where he will run directly over to the side judge and like hand them the ball and help them spot it to get like an extra two or three seconds smart very smart guy yes um and it also confuses me because Larry Fitzgerald and Deandre Hopkins sent like we talked about
Starting point is 00:17:00 with Madison and uh and uh Dalvin Cook yeah when when they catch like a deep ball it takes me a second like who caught that well yeah if the guy is like fast then it's Deandre Hopkins right if he's just got a big ass big ass because it catches everything then it's Larry Fitzgerald yeah so so that was uh Sunday night football which was fantastic so we're going to recap every game we'll talk a little baseball too we got Deandre coming up packed Monday show and we will start with the Atlanta Falcons which the Lions beat them 23-22 um we have joked that the Falcons invent new ways to lose every single week it is not a joke the fact that they lost the game by Todd Gurley his momentum taking him into the end
Starting point is 00:17:45 zone which was essentially like a reversal of the famous Todd Gurley going down against the Rams versus the Packers a year or two ago I it's incredible it is incredible that they lost that way if Todd Gurley just goes down they win that game not only if he just went down if he had went down feet first yes that would be technically giving himself up so the way that he fell he just he realized it a half step too late and just kind of collapsed onto himself and the ball crossed the line at the last second if he had just gone feet first is from where you start your slide right if you give yourself up that way yes so I have no way to prove this but I think he did that on purpose because the Falcons think they're
Starting point is 00:18:27 not going anywhere scoring touchdowns is cool it looks good for your stats and the reason why I truly think this I actually said out loud when we were watching this game I think the Lions were almost trying to let them score the player to the two plays before they were playing very loose defense where they were kind of doing like an Olay thing where if anyone had actually broken it they might have let them score it's tough to tell the difference between that and normal map attrition that's true but I it and maybe maybe I'm way off maybe it's simply the fact that the Falcons are the Falcons and they have the lowest situational awareness on a football field of any team ever because how how you don't say that to
Starting point is 00:19:08 everyone in the huddle beforehand like hey there's a good chance they're going to let us score here because the only way they can win this game is if they get the ball back and still he's going full blown through the hole while the Lions were just walking away from him they were about to like pick them up and tackle them in their zone it was crazy so I all it tells me is that Todd Gurley doesn't watch college football I'm just saying if you had watched like any highlights from Saturday he would have known go down on that exact same play what's aren't going to end up well for you and then then it became a fight to see who could who could make the biggest boneheaded error because after that
Starting point is 00:19:42 happened and the the Lions go all the way down the field they score Danny Amondola has a 15 yard penalty against him for unsportsmanlike conduct so they had to back to kick up and that would have been the most Lions way ever to win a game is losing or tying a game that was handed to you after Todd Gurley just made a Lions type mistake yes in your favor yes find out for me Jake Todd Gurley and his car I don't know if these are listed but bonuses for touchdowns okay I was also going to say Florio tweeted Todd Gurley quote mad as hell on quote about scoring late TD yeah that's smart that's a fake like you're mad yeah because he's in a new tax bracket you wait that's why it's pissed off god damn it Jake you're
Starting point is 00:20:20 sometimes you're just so young and like dumb and I don't mean that in a mean way like you believe that like Todd Gurley really probably walked in the locker room and said I'm mad as hell yeah well Jake believed it because it was from our friend a journalist yes like Florio not us guys with brains and maybe shit for brains but we have brains and eyeballs and we have the fans sense so the the Falcons have also broken math they broke numbers this year yes they played out of their seven games they've lost three games when they had a greater than 90% chance of winning it no it's a 98% 98% on win probability which I think when probabilities bullshit I agree that that's kind of both it's kind of in the same pile
Starting point is 00:21:03 for me right now is like judging Daniel Jones's speed in the open field I think they just come up with numbers and that way because it feels like every week there's a team that has a 99% probability that ends up losing the game well and when probability can't count for a team being so situational awareness like illiterate sliding scale for it right like the Falcons should never be over 10 Falcons should never have a 98% chance of winning a game ever right like it just it shouldn't until this is why we're smarter than computers and robots will never beat us for this simple fact they actually think that the Falcons have a 98% chance of winning a game that we know as human beings that's not true computers
Starting point is 00:21:44 don't do stereotypes like the Falcons are by 20 it's a 50-50 yep it's 50-50 I agree that it should be yeah for the Falcons there should be a cap on it until you get within a minute and then in the last minute of the fourth quarter it should go all the way up to 25 until the last minute yes but never above yes all I'm seeing is a $2 million signing bonus but it does say incentives 3.5 million I just gotta find the detail we'll look into that yeah how many for how many touchdowns against the Lions I'm just saying mad as hell just mad as hell makes me like if if Florio had said Todd Gurley was despondent or when like Todd Gurley was emotional in the locker room I believe it more but mad as hell mad
Starting point is 00:22:21 as hell is the fakest mad that's actually cartoon mad when you're like yep mad as hell this piano fell on my head yeah he's got steam coming out of his ears like a like a tea kettle across the locker room give it to me Jake April 7 2020 regarding the incentives Gurley gets the full 500k with 13 TDs or 1000 Russian yards okay I'm telling you man I'm telling you they're right he was cut there's really no perfectly and there's really no point for him to not score that touchdown and if you're thinking like in the long run the Falcons aren't gonna make the playoffs correct it's actually better for the Falcons to get a better draft pick yes they're gonna need a Trevor Lawrence or they're gonna need a Daniels
Starting point is 00:23:00 or they're gonna need a Trey Lance when they move on potentially from Matt Ryan so yeah I didn't think that he did it on purpose but you're kind of you're winning me over listen I you'll never be able to prove this is a great debate a fan debate that you'll never be able to prove one way or another but I just I I the only reason I thought of it was because of the plays before when it felt like the Lions it was clear what they were gonna do what they were trying to do how many touchdowns that's five out of 13 so he's on pace he's on pace to be there interesting yeah well interesting it's also way more suspicious because there was that classic example of him doing the exact opposite thing correct being super
Starting point is 00:23:39 situationally yes and then he could be coaching because Sean McVeigh is a good coach if he did not do this on purpose he's gonna be very confused to see like the level of hate and like people are gonna be pissed off at him online and he's gonna think back to the last time he did and he's not gonna know what the right thing to do is he's gonna be a very confused boy right so we need to at least give some credit to the other side so Matthew Stafford who I've always been a fan of because I think he's a good quarterback that's in a bad situation 75 75 yards and 64 seconds for the touchdown for the game winning touchdown drive that was like vintage Stafford that was a great moment that was a great like he is
Starting point is 00:24:17 a guy he's he's in a small list of guys in the fourth quarter with the ball down and like no you know no timeouts you can trust him to get the ball down the field so he needs to get some credit and remember what I said on Friday little baby little baby run lines going on their little baby run their schedule is the start of their little itty tiny cutesy wootsy taking their first steps tiny little baby run they're three and three now which you wouldn't have thought after like week one and you know the week two they go up to Green Bay and they go up 14 nothing to get absolutely shit pumped so again Colts at Vikings Washington football team at Carolina at Houston little bit the tiny little baby run what I said they were
Starting point is 00:25:05 gonna go I think I said they're gonna be five and five going into the Texans we said that on Thanksgiving yes they were gonna be competitive yes five and five on Thanksgiving five and five on Thanksgiving going play against the Texans and I mean look with the NFC East being so so terrible and you know obviously the NFC West is awesome but the three and three you're in it like three and three is not you're not out of this thing it's still very early with 17 you're very much in this so credit to the Lions for for coming back and Matt Patricia he's got to find a new like he's wearing like a poncho thing that is essentially like a baseball like they tarp out right when it rained delay at that size like it's crazy the only thing that can fit on you and with
Starting point is 00:25:52 a neck hole that's the appropriate width and girth is something that's gonna kind of fall down at an angle to make it look like a poncho you're basically stuck with you can go with a blanket you can go with like the five XL white T's that you can buy in a gas station and that's it I think if you looked underneath his tarp at any given moment there's like the six foot 18 year old summer intern from the ballpark six foot 115 pounds who always gets swallowed up in the tarp swallowed up by the tarp if you just shook Matt Patricia one of those kids would fall out but I'm just here for credit I'm just here at this this single a a-ball team for credit maybe it's me but has Matt Patricia has he just ditched the pencil entirely I think so I have pencils and funny
Starting point is 00:26:38 when you suck I haven't seen the pencil recently I don't know if it's like the mask that he's wearing maybe if you put the strap over your ear it makes it difficult to fit the pencil in there yes I need to know from Matt Patricia if you're listening to the show where what orifice are you stashing the pencil in yes yeah where where's the pencil probably belly button probably in the tarp I would think belly button in the tarp just shake them yeah you get change Jimmy Hoffa a cat pencil yeah all kinds the like a skull an old skull yeah like a cat maybe a cat skeleton two two buttons some string mm-hmm yarn yes flows out of there a dip bottle without a cap on uh-huh another t-shirt that he forgot to take off like six years ago that just finally wards
Starting point is 00:27:21 a lot elasticity up it would just all fall out of there so all right that's Lions Falcons just incredible stuff Falcons you're just and the Jersey is terrible like I don't know there was that was one of the least visually aesthetic games I've ever watched with the weird color of their turf mm-hmm the what do you call them the gradient what is a gradient the are you talking about the Falcons uniform yeah the gradient gradient red it looked like their entire bodies were infected like it was it was some sort of like old like frostbite that they hadn't taken care of that was gradually oozing at the top it was a very it was a weird look and then combined with the with the all-grays the Lions all-grays yeah so it was the whole thing was just disgusting just a
Starting point is 00:28:08 disgusting it looked like if you simulated a game on Madden like a preseason game or like when you can make your own franchise and you're the Tiber and sharks yes yeah you're like a defunct Euro League team yeah all right Browns Bengals Browns 37 Bengals 34 Baker Mayfield was awesome so he starts 0 for 5 Odell Beckham gets hurt now the take is gonna I mean someone's definitely gonna use this take that he's better without yeah I was actually gonna say that yeah and then he finishes he goes 22 of 23 for his final 23 passes 297 yards 5 touchdowns and the one in completion was a spike right so he was incredible it was productive on fire on fire against a bad Bengals defense but still like that's if you're a Browns fan not only you're 5 and 2 but that's the type of game that
Starting point is 00:29:02 you've been waiting to see from Baker for a while now we're like let him just go out and win a game be incredible and Odell being out like it makes it even more impressive I don't like that the media has put so much expectation on the Browns that they're making them feel like 5 and 2 is a bad place to be like they should be better no I think it's the opposite I think that they've oh there were expectations coming into this year anytime that you have Baker playing for the team since he's like a guy that you know he's in the media lot he's on like all the Hulu commercials and progressive commercials people are always talking about Baker being like he should be the guy that's you know taking you guys to the playoffs 5 and 2 fucking celebrate if you're always you guys had you guys
Starting point is 00:29:40 had beer fridges that were stored around your town for the the moment that you won a Thursday night game against the Jets and it was a big celebration like don't let anybody take away the joy of 5 and 2 from you Cleveland well I totally disagree though I think it's the opposite I think last year is what you're describing this year like last year everyone was hyped I think this year everyone's like dude they suck well after a couple weeks last year they got killed by the Ravens week where week one yeah week one this year so everyone's like fuck the Browns they're terrible this team sucks so I think it's like looking them at 5 and 2 I do think people are saying we're 5 and 2 this is incredible they should be I'm saying you should feel that way it was mostly like ESPN for the last
Starting point is 00:30:16 couple weeks or saying things about like Baker and all that yeah I disagree with the ESPN take I'm just telling Cleveland go off Kings not great news for the Bengals Carlos Dunlap put his house on sale on Twitter right after the game was over oh he said 6,000 square foot city view with huge balcony four bedroom four and a half bathroom in one of the best school districts for sale do your market analysis make me an offer series inquiries only with proof of funds I love that so he immediately he's definitely going to sell that on with Bitcoin he immediately put his house on sale because he's like fuck Cincinnati I've been here for nine years but this is too much I'm out so the Bengals Joe borough and we've said we've talked about this before but he's
Starting point is 00:31:00 like running for his life now we should give a little bit of context that the Bengals do have four out of five of their day one starters have been out with injury so it is a revolving door there it's bad the offensive line is bad but if you're looking for positives Zach Taylor looks pretty confident uh Joe borough is the guy I've upgraded him actually yeah he was that dude now he's the truth yeah yeah Joe mixing didn't play today and you were in this game and then you have T Higgins who looks very good young receiver Tyler Boyd young receiver I don't know where AJ Green's going to be in a year or two but there's at least some like we've had this you know theme every time we talk about teams that are really down if you could have one or two things that you
Starting point is 00:31:46 can point to they're like okay this is what we'll be looking forward to it doesn't feel as bleak and I feel like that's definitely the case for the Bengals especially the fact they're in every game yeah like they're fighting every single game I think what we're looking at here is a team with like a lot of young offensive talent a team with like no real defense to speak of and you're losing your guys like Carlos Dunlop Gino Atkins again we don't know where Gino is Gino could be buried in Carlos Dunlop's basement somewhere for all we know but like if you're hemorrhaging talent on that side of the ball you're kind of being set up to be the next Falcons or the next Lions because you're going to have a good quarterback for a while you've got some really fucking fast receivers
Starting point is 00:32:27 you've got a good running back too please have the draft well you just got a draft well it's easy come on Cincinnati you can do that no big deal so easy to do but I I wanted to not be negative about the Bengals because I do think there are positive pieces and they're like next year will be big because next year if you hope maybe they can trade AJ Green get some draft picks whatever it may be but next year you hope they start winning a couple of these close games because they've been in them they've been in a lot of these games where like you know last week they're up 21 nothing against the Colts they've been in games where it feels like okay they're a player two away so and that's credit to Joe Burrow and you know if they get some health on the offensive line maybe they'll
Starting point is 00:33:08 win some games later on this year maybe they'll do which would you that's like the backup to or actually the best thing the the where the Bengals are at right now is not good actually objectively bad but things to look forward to the next step is winning four out of five to finish the season and being like this thing is we're we're cooking sleeper team going into next year yeah so you can that's still ahead of you like if you can figure if you can get some health on the offensive line and figure a couple things out at the end of the season you rattle off a couple wins because once you have your quarterback you're not playing for a draft but you are playing obviously you still want a high draft but you're not playing for the number one pick anymore you're not like
Starting point is 00:33:50 right you know let's take let's take let's take tanking is for quarterbacks imagine that luxury to be a Bengals fan and to be drafting not like at a uh at a best player available level but just drafting for need you're like you know what we need a defensive tackle okay that would be that would be a nice spot for here we go Bengals fans i'm gonna keep getting it we're gonna keep it going okay keep the positive vibes going you're the end of your season washington football team giants dolphins cowboys steelers are gonna lose texas and ravens week 17 which they're not going to probably be playing for anything because they'll have like the fifth seed locked up uh so they could be one of those teams get just get ready for that if the Bengals have five wins at
Starting point is 00:34:33 the end of the season i feel like that's i think they will have victory i think they will have five wins at the end of the season i think about four wins at the end of the season but five wins because you count as a tie as a win yeah four three more win three more not losses right that's five not losses that is a that's a great season instant snotty right yes five losses you've got a guy who is the truth at quarterback yes you've got the future uh okay so picture of joe with his family back like they went to a game in cleveland i want to say it was i don't know seven eight years ago or it was right before he went to he went to osu and uh he looked like he actually looked like a seventh grader and he was like just standing on the field in cleveland and i think his brother was
Starting point is 00:35:12 like today something like we're we're no longer browns fans are like fucked up browns or something along those lines it was just nobody has aged more in their uh like had as much of a glow-up in their college days as joe borough did yeah when he went there he looked like he was 12 when he got out he looked like he was 30 yes yes he's a good looking dude uh all right so that's browns bangles oh one last thing donovan people's jones you might remember him from all-time gus johnson name on big noon saturday uh was supposed to be like a stud of studs at michigan he was good but i just love the name because it's just it's the gus johnson name people donovan people joe yeah he loves having three names to say texas is bad yeah he loves having three names to say so that was a
Starting point is 00:35:56 hell of a catch and a hell of a throw to win that game um all right steelers titans well i think we're actually gonna disagree here i i thought the steelers were gonna win the game the steelers won the game and they kind of just fucked around in the second half i still don't think the titans are are like top top level afc oh i'm respecting the titans i didn't come away from this game they they fought hard they stunk in the first half the titans i know but so the two things that stick out to me with the titans are they they have and maybe they'll just have a horseshoe up their ass this year because there are teams that just get the lucky bounces they had two turnovers that were just kind of lucky bounces they they won the turnover battle three nothing in
Starting point is 00:36:43 this game and still lost and the other thing is they are the worst team and i'm not saying this this is not me my opinion titans fans don't get mad at me yet i'll say more things you can get mad at they are the worst team in the nfl on third down defense they're so so bad the steelers were 13 of 18 today they're past rush they were they were worse coming into the game yeah and they probably are even further into like 30 seconds i'll bet you right now mike variables like why the fuck did i sign judevion clowny it's just because i worked with him down in houston for a little bit so i just that's i think tana hill's good very good i think obviously derrick henry's incredible a j brown when he's out there like that touchdown was awesome and they do they're very well coached
Starting point is 00:37:32 but the defense makes me pause at saying they are at the chief steelers ravens level at the afc because you can't you can't win if you're that bad on third down but wait didn't that exact same defense for the most part beat the shit out of the ravens in the playoffs last year yeah i think that's why i think that they can put it together but again i just don't know if it's like you know a hot run i'm just talking about like what i'm watching and i this is not if we're putting it into to tears i'm not saying the titans are bad i'm saying there's a tier of chiefs ravens steelers and i think there's a step down to the titans i think that the the titans and the steelers are at about exactly the same level didn't feel like the steel the steelers were
Starting point is 00:38:18 cruise control they were just kind of they they they fucked up that the angle i'm taking is that as shitty as the titans played in the first half they were able to come back and almost win the game or tie the game in the second basically saying yeah they sucked ass in the first but i'm throwing out the window yeah i just watched the game i feel like they got a couple bounces that were like this their luck is just never gonna run out they were asleep for for most of the first half big ben was doing like oh he was all his he was all his like weird throws where he's at his best when he just goes full on panic in the pocket and there's like two guys draped on him he just throws a ball out there and gets killed he's just falling he's falling down
Starting point is 00:38:54 it's a big tree falling down yeah he just chucks the ball in a general direction i was also i was looking forward to the titans maybe winning this game because i think that if they had we would have the conversation of like ryan tanahill is he elite is he like in the MVP he's still in the mvp race i mean he wasn't incredible today but he was still good and you know he didn't turn the ball over so i i still think the titans are good they're obviously gonna get to the playoffs they're obviously gonna win a bunch of games and guess what titans fans the best part about this is in two weeks the titans play the the bears so we get to do this and you get to you get to tell me how long you get to call me an idiot even though i've never claimed that the bears are incredible
Starting point is 00:39:41 but yeah i just i think the titans are good not great i think i walked away from it being like the Steelers if the Steelers had just focused for 60 minutes this would have been a three touchdown game yeah i also liked in the second half when it looked like we were watching the game on a vcr yes or it was like yeah it was like the 1990 earthquake world series yes we're just like these weird patterns were floating across my tv i had no idea i thought was like a filter that they put on the tv as i was as i was watching the red zone channel that was kind of nice and then i wanted to give a gaskowski hall of fame update second ballot now yes second about a famer uh i agree with you there second ballot misses it the woes continue where i think mike variable is going to get fed up
Starting point is 00:40:24 and just be like we're not kicking like he did last that's we did last he should have done that after the uh after the broncos game this year and variable such a good coach because you are right that they did like coming back that's a that's a good coach team to not lay down and just die and for all the titan fans that are very much going to get mad at me i will say that i have the blessing of taylor luan because i had i talked to him after the game and i was like i think i'm borderline maybe gonna start respecting the titans and he was like i'd actually appreciate you not because from everything that i've seen once you respect a team they suck and i was like good point that's true yeah so good point i'll keep nagging the
Starting point is 00:40:59 titans they'll keep winning i'll keep looking like an idiot theme of the show i'll disagree i will respect the titans i will give you i'm going to respect it that way they can't get mad at the entire pod yeah no that's okay listen we could disagree on that i think that's fair it always takes me a long time to ever respect the titans just because of their their color scheme and uniform and the general like aura around the tennessee titans and as they've been in the past yes i guess they still have a little like jeff fisher musk on them yeah and i i am i also they're one in five against the spread i don't count their win against the texans against the spread because that was a bullshit that they won by six in overtime but they're so if you count that
Starting point is 00:41:36 is not a win like i just did they're one in five against the spread and so you know that that matters for me my big question is how do the stealers get this schedule the stealer the stealers don't play anybody ever yeah outside of their division i mean well the titans they were buddy you just disrespected the titans i said the size but it took you a second um you just disrespect the titans this schedule is insane like how how does this happen they're gonna how it mr and i'm by mr rooney has some i have a little future i have a little tiny little future on the stealers it's a nice price they've played a ridiculously easy schedule the giants broncos texans eagles browns and then besides the ravens which is going to be a great game next week that's
Starting point is 00:42:18 going to be a very big game for both of those they have to play the ravens twice and then um they have to play the bills at the bills besides that they should win all their games yes according to team rankings dot com 30 of 32 there you go tough who's number 32 colts oh interesting that's just because they get to play yeah the jaguars and the texans twice yes and and who else is the they have a really strong opponent down in ashville yeah uh all right before we get to the next ad 31 is probably the jaguars before we get to the next ad uh you're probably thinking about lunch today well i got you i got you covered right now with our friends at jimmy johns i love jimmy johns you love jimmy johns and jimmy johns delivers freaky freaky fast so so fast
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Starting point is 00:45:18 is because we talked about the falcons win probability and how terrible it is the steelers with a 20 point lead in the history of their franchise 213 and zero jesus the falcons have lost the 20 point game lead game this year that's insane yeah i mean it's it's it's crazy because you think like oh 20 point lead you should never lose that but of course 213 games at some point you'd lose it but no 213 zero and one the only other note i had in this game uh the head coaches it was mic and mic so that was kind of a that was great just to look at yeah all right so panther saints drubri's wash meter not washed had a good game uh i kind of felt this one coming just because the panthers don't really have like a ferocious defense and drubri's had time today uh but yeah he
Starting point is 00:46:06 he looked good today well i yes from a football standpoint he looked good but i'm actually i'm concerned with him and matt ryan with their health why they're both just get they're both shrinking they're both getting smaller and emaciated i don't know if they've been sick or what's the whole it's it's whenever uh whenever like what five years ago whenever someone made the decision that fitness was no longer uh being men and lifting weights and now it was just having little rubber bands and stretching your hamstrings that's because that's what fitness is these days guys it's because drubri isn't allowed to play dodgeball and pe anymore no you know what it is it's it's everyone saying that soccer bodies are the hottest bodies yeah so now it's not there's no muscles are out
Starting point is 00:46:49 toned bodies are in he's just he's fucking bands and in on itself he's getting paler he's turning into i don't know he looks almost like a he looks like the six flags guy a little bit you remember that annoying guy that used to dance around yes he's just like his his fate his head's getting bigger yeah but his skin is like shrinking in on itself what are pilates pilates is uh where you say that you go uh to meet chicks what is it though a system of exercises using special apparatus designed to improve physical sports flexibility bolster and enhance mental you know what it is i think i think it's a class that you go to to lift the smallest amount of weight possible in like very very high reps so you say you know what i'm not looking to get bulky i'm just looking to get
Starting point is 00:47:32 toned see we need to pendulum to swing back because i think we've had this idea on the show that we should start a gym that's just manual labor and we just make someone like build stuff yeah we the gym is you build us the gym yeah you build us the gym and then a house and then a wall and then a car and then a moat yeah if you just have a castle if you just assemble like the squat racks and treadmills and shit for it's a workout yeah and then you get to work out for like a week after you've assembled a part of the gym right that's your payment instead of dues uh yeah so saints saints panthers michael thomas according to our friend mike uh mike florio said potentially maybe someone could be traded and then shon payton said uh insiders on the outside where they belong
Starting point is 00:48:16 roasted i think that there's something weird going on michael thomas uh you think yeah because he is so good can't guard mike one of the best twitter names out there but like yes he is uh he's a big reason why the offense hasn't looked awesome like they have in the past also drew breeze his arms falling off maybe uh but there's something going on where i think he's probably on the trading block yeah and shon payton they just keep coming up with weirder excuses for him me thinks the lady doth protest too much like he replied on twitter and his account what is that from his account was locked is this shakespeare or something yeah i think it's shakespeare whatever i mean if you say me thinks it's gotta be yeah it's saying what you're trying to it's trying to
Starting point is 00:48:57 he you smelt it dealt it basically yeah so if you're like oh someone farted and it's like yo that dude that just said that shakes me that dude's dot protesting way too much from hamlet the lady doth protest too much me thinks i had it right yeah shakespeare yeah no but i screwed up the sense oh you're good the i like you got it exactly actually fact checking us this is something billy could do but he doesn't know if you had gotten exactly right i would say that's that's more of a red flirt yeah i you'd say i do plotties yeah michael thomas he i think he's going to be traded yeah i think he likes sucker pusher guy in practice right shon payton yeah shon payton replying to that is a total red flag shon payton doesn't do twitter yep he was he's basically
Starting point is 00:49:36 trying to say no we're not just so that he can get a better deal and also i think florio is on the inside of the saints yeah orio's got he's his tentacles shon payton's his guy they reach way down south yes he's a big saints guy so um teddy bridge water was awesome joe brady is by is like number one on the boy genius next boy genius list yeah he's he's my wildcard to get a job after this i think coaching job yes absolutely gonna happen he is definitely gonna be there's gonna be a feature about joe brady revolutionizing football just like every guy who's revolutionized football before him but he is awesome i mean that that offense doesn't have a running game right now and they're just they don't have like incredible talent teddy bridge water he didn't his his
Starting point is 00:50:21 only miss real big mistake was taking that sack mm-hmm uh he's good dj more is really good too yeah dj more is it no i'm just saying they don't have they don't have a running game speaker if you're right but they don't have like they don't have insane wide receiver they have good guy the james the crowd is good yeah uh no no sorry robbie anderson robbie anderson the other other guy yeah robbie anderson's good yeah dj more is good but they don't have no one's gonna confuse the panthers skill positions as being like a top five unit in the right and it's hard to tell sometimes when you have a new head coach like how much of it is just the fact that nobody has film on you so they can't figure out what the fuck you're doing um and how much is like oh yeah this guy actually is
Starting point is 00:50:59 changing stuff up like who knows maybe the second half of the season they don't change anything and now every defense knows what they end up doing um i wanted i wanted to flag matt rule yeah matt rule went to the smock today for the first time this season yes he did he debuted the uh the carolina blue smock i i feel like he went to the smock too soon yeah that's that's a move that you wait to do if you're like losing in a playoff game at halftime you come out for the second half in the smock well you don't do it in week seven the only reason the smock works for him right now is with the face shield he really is just everyone's shop teacher from seventh grade yeah like he really has that look yeah of a guy who's you know at some point maybe there was an athlete in there but he's
Starting point is 00:51:40 really giving up and right now he just wants to make sure none of the kids like cut their fingers off yeah he's kind of got the welder look going on too but i don't know it's just it's too early to that is that's a major like big time energy boost move you don't want to waste it in a game like this you want to hold that in your back although a division you know this would have been a nice this would have been a nice win for the panthers now they they fall back down to earth where the where we kind of expected them to be because after that win whatever it was a few weeks ago where they went three and two and was like oh wash out for the panthers ourselves included because teddy bridge waters a covering machine it did lead us to respect teddy i mean he's a covering machine
Starting point is 00:52:16 he covers spreads that's what he does so uh the panthers though fall short joey sly that kick that was the best miss kick of all time he it was a so teddy bridge water takes a sack a pretty inexcusable sack i don't know what i mean i'll have to wait till the all 22 comes out guys uh but he takes a sack way it was like around it would have been about about a 52 yarder he takes a sack on on third down and so now they're all the way back joey sly kicks a 65 yarder when i say it was dead on like in the center it was dead on in the center and it missed by maybe eight inches miss short fell short so if if if teddy bridge water taking a sack that was an inch you look at that it was that close and that was 65 yards that close he nutted that he nutted it it's the greatest miss
Starting point is 00:53:08 kick yeah like again joey sly great great awesome cool guy name and he he had uh i think he had covid all week so he was he was practicing at one in the morning uh with no one around i mean that's a perfect position to get covid because no one hangs out with him anyways right so he's like so you're probably doing that yeah um all right next up bill's jets hyperdrive hyperdrive actually worked for a quarter and a half well i did think you had jets money line 10 nothing cover the year first cover the year oh wow okay so you got 10 nothing i didn't want to have the jets beat me i was like i'll beat myself going down with that with that playing they uh i do think were 10 points adam gase gave up play calling yeah this time to dowel logins so he'll probably like take it back
Starting point is 00:53:53 again next week yep i don't know what the like impetus for him doing that was when all of his assistant said no you keep calling plays yep he foisted on dowel logins darnell looked good like a little shot in the arm i think that's just i think maybe that's the the key to the jets for the rest of the year they should look at their schedule if they're playing a tough team they should put flakko in there when they play a team maybe a little bit less they put donald in it's like swinging with the with the weight on your uh you know batting donut right because when you have go from flakko to darnell everything looks just about 25 percent better and faster because it's not a corpse under center and you also don't want to ruin sam darnell's confidence entirely
Starting point is 00:54:32 what's left of it after he's gotten through dealing with adam gase for like two years you yeah put make him let him play against the shitty teams you didn't even you're not even like protesting anymore about flakko yeah flakko is like i usually when i say when i bash him you're like hey now i've now i've given up on it's over flakko's a beautiful boy the jets they can kill anybody the jets the jets the jets sapped what little remaining life flakko had running through his veins right now um maybe hyperdrive look good for 10 nothing maybe he'll get on a team next year and i'll i'll buy back in maybe there'll be a guy in the locker room yeah he's a good guy to have around he's got a big family give him a job next year but yeah hyperdrive worked
Starting point is 00:55:12 he's he's an old court he's one of those old quarterbacks it's sad because you see like tom brady playing till he's 43 and you see you know josh mcown you know is i think 40 and he was a backup last year he's a backup right now he's a backup right now yeah it's like a hotel somewhere but joe flakko has lost so much athleticism but he didn't have a lot to begin with but he lost so much that he can't like taking a snap under center and doing a five-step drop fast enough to not get sacked is almost impossible yeah he i don't know what happened to him over the course of the last three years i think maybe he just kind of was always trending this direction but just being out in denver yeah exacerbated a little bit he had the greatest run like he the life lesson
Starting point is 00:55:58 of joe flakko is just for one stretch in your life in your career get your personal life get hot and stay hot for a little bit of time and then you can always look back and be like that was me back to truck up yeah that was me so getting good shape once he also has like that was me he hasn't found an offensive coordinator that's willing to use his strength which is just like protect him for three seconds let him throw the ball 40 yards on field and let him get a pass interference against the defense yes that is the ultimate joe flakko offense and he has he hasn't been um he's been a square peg in a round hole at the last two places where he's expected to complete passes yes and that's not his game yes so uh the bills were sloppy straight up sloppy 11 penalties
Starting point is 00:56:43 they won with eight field goals i think we need to do something because um i can't i can't do the back and forth josh allen thing every single week i like josh allen i'm gonna defend josh allen i'm just gonna say here and now he's still young and he's still work in progress and sometimes like there'll be weeks where he's not a finished product listen the first four weeks of the season right i'm not willing ran up the score so now when he doesn't and he didn't play like that bad today but they had trouble in the red zone and so we get it back thrown i'm i'm saying truce if you if the other side can agree that he's a good quarterback and we can agree that he's not yet an mvp i think that's a fair middle ground i disagree i think i think he still has who he was
Starting point is 00:57:30 right under the surface lurking i think the guy that we saw big cat in the first four weeks the guy that we saw is still inside that body somewhere he's still got what i'm i'm not taking knocking him i'm saying it's going to be week to week sometimes like there'll be weeks where it's just he did do the thing today where he was getting tackled and then like tried to throw the ball backwards as he was about to get the ground fumbled it out yeah i love it too it's part of what makes him endearing um and he beat the jets listen he didn't he didn't throw any interceptions he won yeah he wasn't it it was just more their offense looked bad in the red zone like when you have eight field something went wrong yep yeah against the jets but then again maybe that was
Starting point is 00:58:09 just low energy because the jets bring low energy they suck you down they're the energy vampires they're the reverse seahawks yeah where when you play the seahawks yeah crazy shit happens your offense can score from anywhere on the field when you play against the jets sometimes you're just like i'm bored playing against you yeah they're energy vampires all right i just actually looked because that oh god damn it the jets do have a monday football game i guess so the patriots which now is like a terrible game like i was i was hoping saying like the jets are energy vampires like please don't give us one more prime time jets game okay uh all right next up um cowboys washington football team yep so i got a stat for you to start it off the cowboys well no i've
Starting point is 00:58:55 got a stat we're gonna start off with mike mccarthy yeah the mike mccarthy yeah when you get to four wins in your division a lot of research that he's found yes says that you're more likely to win your division yes so the so so who is the reporter uh was it was it shit i don't know find a jake she said mike mccarthy told me there's research that once a team gets to four division wins it's likelier to win the division wow research that we've uncovered yeah football games can lead to success and winning divisions and making the play in your division if you beat those divisional opponents it makes you more likely a lot of teams game plan to not win those divisional games and throw them out and say whatever we'll treat them normally but when you treat them with
Starting point is 00:59:39 more importance you can get more wins which then means that you can win your division sometimes more likely i wonder if mike mccarthy then took that uh incredible knowledge that he got off the pro football focus uh subscription that is definitely lapsed and said oh is my computer making my that was jake i i think oh that does jones of the nfl network kim jones kim jones all right so kim jones who kim jones i like that that's good nice hank that was good thank you do it again is that the first kim jones who mike jones who is it i'm mike jones kim jones not just who stepping on my jones who god aspire to be a rapper that just says their name all and their phone number everyone yeah jason darula you could just call up mike jones it was like in his songs you
Starting point is 01:00:28 could just give him a call you pick up sometimes yeah yeah it's a very very smart marketing so mike mccarthy do you think he then took that uh incredible analysis that he got that winning football games in the division can help win the division and then took it to the guys and was like listen this means all we gotta do is go one and oh this week and he just like mike mike mccarthy has overthought everything he's known about football since getting fired by the packers and having erin rogers ruin his life to the point where he is now reading all this stuff and then like reverse engineering himself back to the most basic neanderthal football guy i think he uncovered that stat and he actually thought it was like he was a national treasure yeah he like uncovered this
Starting point is 01:01:17 ancient football riddle written in blood on jerry jones's will and he's like you guys will never believe what i just came up with right now so we gotta go out we gotta beat the washington football and if we do we're in a better position win the division and he thought that he was the smartest person in the room which he probably usually does think that yes always yeah always i'm actually now like this quote is making me a mike mccarthy fan and i never thought i would do that because here's what what i love about it is that mike mccarthy is so relatable in this moment that i've i've had this personally i think a lot of people probably have had that where you say to yourself i want to be smarter i want to read more i want to learn numbers i want to try to
Starting point is 01:02:00 better myself he had all the intentions of doing that and then when he absorbs all the information and takes in all the the the articles and the numbers and everything his dumb shit for brains can only spit out like the most baseline understanding of it which is winning is good yeah like that is the most i because every time i try to get smarter all that comes out is like the absolute bare minimum of what i learned and i go touting it around and telling everyone i'm like hey i read a book you know you see me when i read a book i'm on one right so he has what he's doing mike mccarthy reads malcolm gladwell yes tipping point yes and he spends like a week in a dark room with this book and he comes out he's like the Beatles were good because they practiced
Starting point is 01:02:47 a lot yeah like joe paterno didn't actually know yeah yeah and here's why he he reads a book and then comes out of it with like the most basic uh like for dummies version yes like he read the back of the book yes he probably read pro football focus for 10 000 hours i like mike mccarthy if he actually meant this as like something that he's uncovered if he was being sincere honestly pft i think he did i think he is so dumb like us and again i'm saying i mean just as dumb as mike mccarthy that this is the lesson he learned from looking at a bunch of fucking pie charts and percentages and cool color graphs that you see on pro football focus i have a pro football focus subscription that shit is like chinese to me so if i just stared it if he if he came out of this
Starting point is 01:03:36 or he had like this interview with kim jones and he was like you know what i have to put something out there in the news that will get back to jerry so jerry thinks that i'm working hard so i'm just gonna say some numbers i like him less but if he actually believes like holy shit this is cool i learned something new and then he gave that as like an honest answer yeah you're right i like him i like the games in the division matter more yes because you want to win the division so mike mccarthy i think we just talked to ourselves into being mike mccarthy guy i like how he's also saying like maybe i'm coaching these guys too much i think that might be the problem is i'm being too hands-on with them well i'll tell you what there is a problem i mean
Starting point is 01:04:11 that is true with mike nolyn mike nolyn i don't know what mike nolyn has done an incredible job of just making all of his defensive players terrible and so much so that so the washington football team going into this game they were the only team the nfl to not have a rusher with 60 yards or more in a game they got that in the first quarter yeah yeah so that's how bad the defense is for the dallas cowboys but don't they have good linebackers like last i checked they had they had leighton vanderish i think mike nolyn had jaylon smith right yeah and he's been lost he stinks he stinks this year because mike nolyn it's like remember when whenever north turner would go with his 10 000 page playbook and the offense would look different you'd be like what's going on here
Starting point is 01:04:55 like oh well yeah it's a totally different system then i think mike nolyn has just confused the fuck out of every single person on the dallas defense mike nolyn has one move to save his job as a defense coordinator you don't have a lot of moves because you don't really ever give up or take play calling um you're usually like the one guy that gets blamed even if your head coach is a defensive guy like defensive coordinators it's a hard job to keep in the nfl when you stink the best thing that you can do is just become known as like a mad scientist blitz guy yeah like just dial something up just bring the heat just say like go go in the press next week and be like you know what i'm gonna need to dial some new stuff up yeah i'm gonna get exotic with my blitzes our
Starting point is 01:05:32 guys are gonna pin our ears back yes look at fucking greg williams he is greg williams is an absolute shithead of a person but he's a snitch yeah he's a rat he's an asshole he's a jerk he throws everyone under the bus but he brings the heat yeah you blitz and it doesn't matter if they like if they catch you on a zero blitz and they they drop like a 40-yard touch on you you're like yeah you know what we'll live and die with that guy because he's an aggressive play caller on defense because and also when you blitz when you're when you're dr heat yeah you blitz and it works nothing looks better yeah you look like you look like the 85 bears and then you can also blame your players after the game if you just blitz the shit out of them and they score 50 on you you
Starting point is 01:06:12 be like our guys got to get home right you know when we when we bring pressure we got to get to the quarterback and you can also just be like the well because usually you'll you'll lose to like tom brady or drew breeze or who just eat up blitzes and be like wow i mean no one's beating those guys but you have to try something i'd rather die i'd rather die blitzing than die just playing in zone yeah you can always say that listen if we play if we drop back into nickel coverage or dime coverage they're just going to pick us apart back there yeah so you got to get pressure on them and knock them down and that's really the best way that you can the only way that you can beat the washington football team and kyle allen is if you get up in his face and
Starting point is 01:06:48 knock him around a little bit yes if you don't he's just going to be a surgeon out there dissecting you for up to and including 25 points that's it's a great point you got a blitz mike don't you got a blitz i mean you also have to tackle which you just haven't taught um everyone forgot how to tackle uh this game was two two nothing for a second which was awesome and then was 15 to three it was awesome uh and then also we should mention that uh john bostick steeler born pittsburgh steeler drafted by the bears whatever uh which i watched that that clip of him hitting teddy bridge water florida louisville in that bowl game i've never sold myself on a draft pick faster than that uh but it's just a cool name bostick yeah and that hit i mean that hits an all-timer like i'm pretty
Starting point is 01:07:34 sure florida lost that game but i remember a draft might be like oh my god this guy is going to bring the fucking wood uh but yeah that was a dirty scumbag hit on annie dalton and annie dalton we make our jokes and we have our fun but like no one wants to see annie dalton get hurt no it's sad he's a nice guy sad it was a dirty hit i'm not gonna go time wilson on this the it was a dirty hit dirty very dirty hit um it'll probably be suspended for a little bit i actually thought fine is the most interesting take was danie woodhead's podcast partner matt slosson said uh all the dalis offensive lineman should be in prison for not fighting jeff bostick after that hit yeah john bostick yeah if you saw the hit the the lineman just kind of stood around they're like damn they
Starting point is 01:08:17 got andy that sucks yeah man i wish it was me yeah i don't have to play anymore where can a coach can i play quarterback dude michael carthy said that after the game too he was very upset about that yeah but but you're the coach mm-hmm like you're the coach of the team pull up the john bostick teddy bridge waterhead i want to see that just to feel it uh now we got bendinucci bendinucci keeping a goochie jay and new grad they really should trade for for ryan fitz patrick they really should i was thinking about this could fitz patrick conceivably do a series of one week contracts with different teams yes why not i want him to be floating around i don't want to be hot committed to uh to the dalis cowboys this hit made me i was like oh my god john bostick is
Starting point is 01:08:56 going to be the monsters of the midway or back yeah he sucks by the way he's not a good player so he just does big hits and sometimes very illegal hits uh we also saw a zika aliyah is having like quietly the worst year not only is he fumbling but that clip of him you gotta pick up a glitch blitz by uh u n c legend col hockham mm-hmm uh yeah col looked like a fucking hall of fame linebacker yeah he looked like someone talked shit to him yeah on text and he was like i'm gonna run over this guy ran over him he it was one of the hits where he like you hit the guy who's trying to block you into the quarterback yes and that's how you get the sack it feels awesome yeah when that happens zika aliyah the time feels about right for him to fake an injury well he got paid so
Starting point is 01:09:39 he's just kind of hanging he should just he should say listen uh i got a rib i'm gonna be hanging out for a couple weeks he's kind of already doing that yeah but like why do it on the field do it at home it's incredible and guess what i would i'm not i'm not even really talking shit about his ukulele because if i were him and i got paid how much money did he get guaranteed a shitload i'd probably be you know what i don't really want to go out there and and absorb hits and concussions and break bones anymore i'd rather just chill at home playing xbox years 90 million yeah six years 90 bit no the cowboys rather just saw a beanbag that's the size of my entire room we had to eat barbecue all day the cowboys we like with coronavirus the nfl should have given
Starting point is 01:10:18 an option for teams to opt out collectively at any point during the season cowboys and the jets absolutely would do it at this point jerry would not let them i don't know man jerry would get bad jerry would start an entirely new team and bring them in cowboys too here's the good news for everyone the cowboys are horrendous we have uh three more times that they're on national television and you know what it's not that they're energy vampires like the jets because watching the cowboys stink this badly is so much fun to this yes it is a lot of fun to see how bad they suck because usually the cowboys suck but they have uh at least a hint of an expectation that they've got enough talent to win a game yes like they could maybe go 10 and 6 11 and 5 if all goes well
Starting point is 01:11:01 now you get to see the cowboys as one of like legitimately the three worst teams in the nfl and just know that skip balus is watching it you know he's when you look at the window at the same moon you're like skip balus is looking at that moon right now thinking he's pissed off cowboys yes and steven a smith is looking at that moon just flipping skip balus off yes yes it's a great point so more cowboys um uh the first time in nfl history that we're at week seven with no teams in the division with at least three wins who cares incredible who cares watching football team cowboys are still in it half a game out they killed their trevor lorenz chances maybe dude do you think the gents are winning two games it's a possibility no way
Starting point is 01:11:45 flacko now i'm now i'm thinking about flacko again and the and the and washington football team is going to play the cowboys again and they have the giants twice right mm-hmm oh no they have one more one more time against the giants now i am talking myself into the washington football team this is what this is the beauty nfc east one week your trevor lorenz the next week you're in winning the uh nfc how awesome would it be though i think we looked it up last week i was wondering if a team could conceivably win their division if they went i think three thirteen three and thirteen could no you're at four and twelve if four and twelve could win division if you go four and twelve and every other team finishes at four and twelve also but like you
Starting point is 01:12:26 win the series of tiebreakers or coin flips you win the division and then you also get the number one overall pick in the draft because you win the series of coin flips that determines a tie for every team no that can't happen to get there but it's if you make the playoffs yeah you then you're automatically put out of that like eighteen yeah yeah yeah you actually ruin yourself for a draft yes you really really do four and twelve you would be like the fifth draft pick and then you bump all the way down to eighteen but you could tie for first place in the nfc east and also get the number one overall pick in the draft you actually go by the way you'd actually go i think i don't i don't know if it's when you lose i think you'd actually be lower than eighteenth because you'd
Starting point is 01:13:04 win the division and then i think it's based on like when you lose but i think i'm trying to do the math with all the different wildcards i think it's i think you'd be lower than the wildcard she's technically one division that would stink uh all right you know what at this point i want if i were to go one way or the other we're not going to get the number one overall pick so let's just win the whole fucking division be legends and then who knows maybe you catch lightning and bottle one week in the playoffs you win a wildcard game yeah why not it could happen see it yeah believe it achieve it uh packers texans texans suck and davante adams and erin rogers aren't fair together that was all i wrote down uh yeah davante adams is good uh jj watt is mad as hell
Starting point is 01:13:45 he also said he was mad as hell and then he just said about losing shit sucks shit really sucks watch your mouth jj bill brine's ghost is still coaching this team because the texans did kick a field goal to make it a three-score game from a three-score game so i think the score was 28 to seven yes 28 to seven and they kicked a field goal to make it 28 to 10 which sounds a lot better you have to admit 28 to 10 sounds way better but but if you're romeo canal you can't do you can't have it both ways you went for two against the titans last week to go up nine in like the the gunslinger interim head coach fuck it let's just do it now you're doing like the pat shermer box score next day i i want to lose by less so that they give me the job which they won't do you're assigning
Starting point is 01:14:32 way too much strategy right now to romeo chrono romeo chrono he coaches off his gut it's well that's why i think it may be bill brine actually still has like he still has an office in the stadium and he's just talking to everyone well he is still the janitor he's uh the grounds crew guy he did every single chef yeah but romeo chrono he just he looks at 28 to 70s like man it'd look a lot cooler if we had double digit points yeah and then sometimes every now and again he just goes for two i don't think that there's a rhyme or reason to when he does or doesn't do it no i do know that like when coaches fall into these weird score games like the football team cowboys game where it was 15 to three coaches just start going for two every time they score a touchdown because they're like i'm not
Starting point is 01:15:12 used to seeing these numbers yeah when we score touchdowns i'm gonna assume i need to go for two i want to get back on track yeah i want to get to gotta get back on try get me to a zero or a seven and then i'll stop going for two yes so the packers looked good afterwards they're like we you know we owed it to ourselves after after getting our ass kicked by the box like we're mad all this stuff you played the texas you know we played the texas you looked good the packers are a good team that will beat up on bad teams they did this also without erin jones so the packers are very good but the texas are really bad yeah and the texas run defense is really bad i think i think the packers are you know a good position to receive bad no i mean what i don't know why they beat the
Starting point is 01:15:56 texas dude packers are really good no they beat the texas why would you say like one week they beat the texas but the texas are the best worst team no i don't think so anymore after this loss maybe not yeah i don't have to crunch the stats and the best worst team to me is the titans okay that's fair i was gonna say maybe the patreots yo we're gonna get there all right let's go let's keep chugging along because hank we gotta get hank hank's gonna we gotta get there all right the the packers are good they're they're very good okay they're very good whatever i don't care i'm obviously very biased they're very good whatever but it was a texas who cares um um
Starting point is 01:16:35 they're very good chargers jaguars uh jesson herbert gets his first win gardener minchew six straight losses this game was fucking crazy this game every time you looked up there was a different touchdown a weird touchdown score gami right jake score gami yep 39 score gami the scores never happened in the nfl history but yeah there was like block kicks and and deep bombs but jesson herbert it's good that he finally won a game um because he like basically did the chargers thing where he was just losing in terrible fashion against really good teams yeah so it's nice to have the jaguars come in and get that win he's got that little bit of like youthful night was it naiveness yeah where he just he likes to tuck the ball and
Starting point is 01:17:18 run with it he's really good at it yeah but he's one of these guys that like scrambles after looking off one guy and then he'll just get his ass kicked as he's like jumping diving forward and he still hasn't gotten hit hard enough i think over the course of like the last six weeks yeah to like realize oh that's the electric fence i might want to stop touching that yeah he's fun to watch he just like kind of he's a big ball of energy which i like yeah i know he and he's got a rocket arm and um on the other side i'm getting really sad about the jaguars because i saw this article that that they're thinking about going to mike glennon like why would you do that like why would you do that to us you're gonna lose you're trying to tank uh garter minch who's at least
Starting point is 01:17:53 fun to watch i don't cool to look at on the sideline did you see his bandana he was rocking like the bandana that looks sweet right exactly he should be allowed to rock like a tie-dye jersey like a uniform like the red one where you're not allowed to hit the quarterback yes the tie-dye one where you're only allowed to hang out and smoke a shitload of weed with a quarterback after the game yes i like garter minch you i don't think that he's the problem i think that there are a lot of other problems no they have no talent on the roster uh doug morone was wearing his mask upside down for the entire game and nobody told him that's fine that's it's fine i don't have a problem with it but i have a problem with the fact that nobody told doug morone they respect him too much remember
Starting point is 01:18:31 he could remember he could beat the shit out of him because he went to to diana's uh he beat up jalen ramsey he would in a heartbeat um yeah i just felt bad for him because it was like very obviously on upside down and nobody was even talking nobody was like he is he is a scary guy i was laughing about that but i actually kind of agreed with diana's tweet a little bit he could beat the shit i think he could beat up every coach in the nfl not named mike verable yeah i think verable would whoop him are we forgetting anyone specific uh yeah verable verable would whoop him verable would kick the fuck out of everyone he would he would eat cliff kingsbury i'd like to see i'd like actually like star morris might be a dark horse now brian floris is a pretty
Starting point is 01:19:16 tough dude yeah yeah okay okay um that was that game that was a good for the jaguar literally nothing else to talk about yeah good for the jaguars you scored a lot of points good for the chargers bad for the jaguars no jaguar scored a lot of points anytime the the jaguar scored more than 20 points i kind of chalked that up as you know as a moral victory for them they've also given up like jaguars if the jaguars can score a little bit they're a great over team because they their defense is so bad they give up 30 points to everyone yeah everyone and it's and there's the public perception because their defense was so good that like oh they still got that that defense um before we get to our next game uh pft i had to say we talked about this game earlier but my whoop was going off
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Starting point is 01:21:27 15 off and help us raise money for md anderson this october okay chiefs broncos patch my homes through for 200 yards and the chiefs won 43 16 now they had a pick uh kick return pick six but the chiefs are fucking scary man because they can win games like so many different ways now and when their defense plays well and then they can run the ball it's like what the fuck and then now levy on bells happy yeah jumped out of the out of the playing new york would like to db cooper briefcase of cash and yeah now he's just an offense that he likes and enjoys and is fun to be around it's it's not fair for the entire rest of the nfl that now levy on bell is a uh is a chief because i was actually i was liking the chiefs more this year than i was liking last year
Starting point is 01:22:13 because i like elare i like clad i just like you know clad seems like a cool guy and has a rookie coming in playing that well he's fun to root for and now they're just like okay they've got everybody they the chiefs have everybody on the team they have the avengers um are you ready to talk about your boy because you hold me to standards when it comes to guys i might have been drew lock is your guy i might have been oversold on drew lock by others if my question to you is if drew if we never get that video of drew lock dancing on the sideline does anyone think the drew lock is a franchise quarterback oh my reason for thinking he was a franchise quarterback was way dumber than that it started back at like the the senior bowl when um he gave the double
Starting point is 01:22:57 finger guns to reporter that asked him a question oh okay because he also did he did the dance mazu played texas no no this was he got it thrown in his face no he was just doing the double finger guns uh because he was talking about how he doesn't i think he said he doesn't bench that much but he squats a lot yeah and somebody said like legs feed the wolf so we're giving the finger guns so where are you at with him because he's now nine stars it's complicated he touched on seven interceptions he looked bad he didn't look very bad and lost yep like you know when a young quarterback just doesn't see it and so they're scrambling and they're throwing it to places they shouldn't be throwing it and it's just like there's some young quarterbacks where they'll
Starting point is 01:23:36 once in a while you know in a game there'll be one or two throws you're like whoa that was a young quarterback throw yeah then there's young quarterbacks where it's like they're lost he's in the lost category right now i'm not going to throw him out i'm not saying he's done i'm just saying you might have to reassess i'm re i'm in the process of reassessing right now and and right now the uh biggest conclusion i can come to is that he looks very pat schermer like pat schermer has his hooks into him big time like you want to talk about an energy vampire pat schermer just the name pat schermer yes okay i'm falling asleep halfway say but his offense is they're just boring they're boring as fuck they're boring in uh in uh new york when he was coaching there like
Starting point is 01:24:16 he is he's not a good person to be installing like a fancy high speed offense and the fact that he's teamed up with vik fangio who doesn't want to do anything innovative offensively he's like the the height of uh of developing an exotic offense for vik fangio is like let's sign a free agent running back so what i'm getting from this is you're at the state of i'm not ready to admit that maybe i was wrong no i'm just gonna i'm blaming everyone else i'm blaming everyone okay uh i am assessing though i'm in the process of assessing which i usually don't do yes i know i usually ignore everything and i'm just like he'll turn a corner yeah or just like keep going with it and then it becomes its own bit and you're like i'm good then i'm just like i'm just joking about my guy yes no
Starting point is 01:24:59 but drew lock i'm assessing drew lock okay the thing about me and drew lock is i'm not really tied into the guy whatsoever well you did you spoke very highly of him you said he was your guy i thought my my biggest key indicator for drew lock was he was making these you gave moxie word moxie gave him a lot of praise he was making these throws into tight windows and finding himself in the right place at the right time all the time and so at some point i'm like there's something about him which goes but not really because he only has eight touchdowns and seven well this is last year that i was saying that no that's and no those stats are for both years okay and well then there was also von miller being like this guy's making the craziest throws i've ever seen in my
Starting point is 01:25:37 life at practice yeah and the finger guns and the double finger i can understand yeah in the dance and yeah yeah so you're right we're reassessing we're gathering information at this time i think he had like three of those eight touchdowns in one game too right now right now the main culprit is pat schermer yeah the second main culprit is the altitude weather and the third is not look good in call is vik fangio yeah and he's not used to he's not used to the snow vik fangio also he's in a bad division big cat he's in a very competitive very very he has to play the chiefs twice vik fangio is such a good fucking defensive coach and he's not a good head coach but man that guy he like i'd give anything to have him back as deep like defensive everyone should want him as a defensive
Starting point is 01:26:18 coordinator he'll get a he'll get another job because the the the uh broncos got blown out today but they weren't that good on offense like they weren't mm-hmm you know uh pat ross had 200 yards passing and they had 100 yards running it wasn't like the chiefs lit them up they just had some special teams and defensive plays that that made it a huge fucking win right now that he's he's a great defensive coach but he's just i don't know why john only thought that he was going to be like the guy to lead them i think he just kind of thought it was the zig zig while everybody has zags everyone well they're no more son mcvay assistant coaches to interview yes sometimes i'm gonna get this old guy from chicago yes um all right snow football theoretically happened
Starting point is 01:26:59 today but it was not yeah we all agree we need to accelerate falling snow yeah we need to do whatever we can to climate change to get snow football to actually happen yes yes all right wrapping up we have two games left uh weirdly they're they're kind of linked hank is sitting up in what way uh so we'll start with the 49ers patriots 49ers 33 patriots six 31 teams passed on cam newton we saw a lot of those tweets in september seems like we don't see as many now hank cam newton went nine for 15 98 yards three interceptions he's recovering from a virus that's killed okay hundreds of thousands of american lives and he is playing the game two weeks after having it okay and what would you say about the fact that he really hasn't looked all that great
Starting point is 01:27:49 passing the ball except for the seahawks i mean pft brought this point up to me earlier and it really you know turned a light on in my brain one of the side effects of corona is having you know foggy brain yeah he's got long rona he's got the long rona and where you know his situation is where he might just be symptomatic no he's got the long cocoa big cat but he's asymptomatic when he had it right well you give me asymptomatic and then a week later you can still got it sometimes that's the biggest symptom is not having one okay got it i know he's weird he's been throwing weird when he throws it just doesn't look it's bad it looks it looks strange it's very strange the mechanics like he's going like overhand like have you ever seen somebody throw an axe or a
Starting point is 01:28:29 hatchet he's great at throwing it really hard at people's feet yeah now i think we should sign portals that's why i like that mentally to to defend cam not directly defending cam but indirectly defending cam covid the patriot's defense was terrible like that should get criticism as well like cam newton wasn't good but neither was the patriot's it shouldn't be all about cam but it's a lot more fun to make it all about well he doesn't have like obviously doesn't have weapons well it's gonna be about cam anyway because one he's a former mvp went to a super bowl high-profile guy two he's on a one-year contract so like the future and where he fits in is always going to be a conversation it's funny that you talk about
Starting point is 01:29:14 the balls that go like straight into his chin he's a shin throw it's it's weird he releases it like above his head yes and then the ball it seems like the ball has more gravity coming out of cam newton's hands where it just like it goes down at an alarming rate you know what it is it's it's almost like it would be like a trick you know like the trick golf balls are a trick football where one one side of it is weighted that's what it looks like yeah yeah you're right when he releases at the front the nose is already pointing down it's it's i think they have those footballs in practice those are the ones that tom brady left over that he uses to like work on his motion and then he just accidentally uses them in the game yeah it does look weird he also doesn't
Starting point is 01:29:54 have that many weapons on offense i'll give him that so what's what is the prognosis thing what does prognosis mean uh what's the diagnosis what's that what what do you think the the what's the diagnosis the problem and what is the solution here we are ass whoa our team is looks like ass are you talking cheeks the solution is but hole you're talking cheeks cheeks yeah just ass mad ass big Sean ass ass ass ass i did not expect this out of you okay i mean i'll be honest with you ass is a generous description of what you saw today it was last week yeah and last yeah last week was yeah and the covid game against the cheese which we said it was just because the covid once cam plays they would have beat them now not chose not so sure i think this is more straight booty than
Starting point is 01:30:44 it is here here's where it like i bet on the Patriots today because i just like bellichick huge mistake you know bellichick he's a system coach but i think that this is right where we want him no this is actually like the first time you got to be like take a step back be like oh okay so we can't just bet bellichick you know what i mean like the the players do matter you can't just bet bellichick will out coach someone when cam newton's throwing balls into people's shins we need to win two out of the next four games and you have the bills the jets the ravens in the texas yep you can do that yeah we can win two out of those four three and three out of four then we're back in the playoffs and i'm feeling great that's where i'm at okay all right so there you gave yourself some
Starting point is 01:31:25 homework we are ready to go people always say the whole bellichick gets rid of a player one season too early rather than one season too late i don't think that he actually does it that often but this is what it looks like when he actually does do that like with tom brady yeah this was the one season too early it's not it's like i don't know i would not like to have tom brady back i would but it's one of those things where there's just so much more that goes into that it's not like as simple as like oh if we you know let's sign tom brady there's just so much like history and like clearly antonio brown thing like that was an issue like tom brady wanted antonio brown in the patriots craft bellichick like stood the ground or like fuck that we're cutting them now antonio browns
Starting point is 01:32:01 on the buccaneers like it clearly goes more into it than just straight up like the patriots wanting tom brady as their quarterback there was much more of a power struggle and it like it made sense i don't know i don't feel like that i'm not i'm not like sitting here like i wish we had brady obviously i wish we had brady but like i understand that it just wasn't realistic given the circumstances of the team i'd like to give respect to the san francisco 49ers offensive line i feel like they get like dirt tight ends obviously like kiddle the full back jucik jimmy g gets talked about a lot the receivers are good their offensive line is the shit their offensive line is really good and when you watch the niners play it seems like every position on offense kind of like has they
Starting point is 01:32:43 kind of look like offense alignment a little bit the way that they block and like run they all kind of they all have like great technique yes everything they do they all like get low they're i don't know people always talk about hips i don't really know what a hip is but i feel like all their hips are sunk to like proper leverage on offense and they're just all blocking everybody cos shanahan is just an incredible coach and for nfl fans that are maybe a little younger who don't remember mike shanahan's like heyday in denver this is essentially what it was in that he had jeff wilson jr who ended up getting hurt which looked pretty bad undrafted free agent from north texas he had 17 carries for 112 yards three tds he gets hurt uh jammichael i don't even know it's a hasty hasty
Starting point is 01:33:31 undrafted free agent from baler comes in nine rushes for 57 yards that was mike shanahan like you just put a guy in doesn't matter he'll just be a runner yeah he'll fucking how many running backs have they gone through like i feel like they gotta be like six or seven they get an injured running back every week and like so they just plug in all the injuries and everything that's going on and the fact that the think about how bad the 49ers looked against the dolphins three weeks ago and to win on sunday night against rams to go into foxburn win this they need a lot of credit they feel like they're back on track but yeah the the patriots i don't know like you just can't bet bell check for bell check anymore it's it's a weird feeling to be like oh so bell check isn't
Starting point is 01:34:14 gonna just he's gonna lose three in a row okay yeah i guess it does matter who's playing and their defense is the defense the defense stunk today very bad i don't i don't i mean i'm looking at the beginning of a schedule right now so many yards on one hand it's like hank welcome to the club yeah you've had you've had a lot of feel you've had a ton of time for at the end of october this is what everybody else sucks right don't feel good well it's it's not a normal season it's not a normal season it's not a normal season your star players don't get taken out you know just give it big cat get well in a couple weeks we know it was constant loses a couple games like you'll understand my pain that's sad that you're lashing out like that i'm not i'm i'm trying to help you understand
Starting point is 01:34:58 where i'm at and you're looking at me like i took a shot of you it's a fact your star quarterback also out with covet it sucks and then when he comes back with foggy brain and he's not throwing five touchdowns in a game you're gonna be like wait what happened yeah all right uh okay so next game bucks 45 raiders 20 tom brady lit it up i don't everyone's like i was i like watching the buccaneers i enjoy watching the buccaneers and gronk not not only gronk is back gronk is back he's got i i feel like gronk's put on two and a half pounds every single week consistently and that looks so good he's looking good yeah looking like old gronk right now this is this is uh i mean everyone has spoken a million times over of how tom brady is like the greatest quarterback and and
Starting point is 01:35:44 he is incredible but the little things that end of the first half was why tom brady's tom brady and everyone else is not you know what i mean because they get the ball with like two and a half minutes left he ran off the perfect amount of time to get into field goal range take the one shot that ended up being a touchdown it was an incredible pass and catch but if he doesn't get it he still gets another shot and then he gets a field goal yeah and it's like that's why tom brady is tom brady and and other teams will you'll see them just absolutely shit down their their pants in end of half end of core end of game situations he's got it so many he was so calm and cool and it was like oh okay this is exactly the amount of time we need to take off the clock so they don't
Starting point is 01:36:29 get the ball back and we can have a chance to score here best case seven worst case three and then you do the double score they might not have gotten the ball to start the half but like that's that's the difference i i am a little bit concerned about the bucks after this because of antonio brown yeah because of him going i actually think antonio brown i think he's insane i think he's like a total nut job what gives you that and obviously like you're right there is something going on with tom brady and antonio brown i think he i think tom brady wants to go into business with antonio brown i think he's going to be like involved in tb 12 moving forward like antonio brown brady was like hey i saw you getting your dick sucked by tiana trump in your gym yeah that seems
Starting point is 01:37:08 like a cool feature we could add to the tb 12 method uh but like he he seems like he's involved in his weird tom brady universe with antonio brown where he's getting like um what's his name tony robbins to like go give him pep talks and convince him and brainwash antonio we got yeah yeah tony robbins is like talking to antonio brown being like yeah here's what you need to do to unlock it's like shallow howl except you all of a sudden i'm gonna shake your hand you're gonna want to pay all the people that work for you yes yes there's some there's some weird shit going on with tom brady and antonio brown and i don't think bruce arian's doesn't like antonio brown he said like pretty clearly back in march that he does not want him on his team he's like that guy's diva
Starting point is 01:37:49 like said some pretty like bruce arian's after three cocktails type stuff about him right and now all of a sudden tom brady wants him so he's gonna let him in bruce arian's didn't like him when he was in pittsburgh yes he's not gonna like him now no he's definitely it's gonna i think that the the bucks might things might get blown up real fast and i don't know though tom brady has that power of like yo if you want to buy in we could win all right just if everybody agrees for the season to become part of the cult right like bruce arian's right no i really do think that he has that ability yeah and uh the bruce arian's i don't know if you saw the quote he said it had nothing to do with tom brady him in the gym had been working on it for a while there's no chance that's i'm just excited
Starting point is 01:38:30 to hold our good friend steven che his feet to the fire making him answer for all van tonio brown's actions scumbag yeah um say something nice about the raiders they actually it was a four-point game uh and they did lose the right side of their offensive line to injury and ejection during the game and it kind of changed from that point on so i don't know the raiders are just i i don't i don't know what to make of them uh here's something nice about the raiders i'm stealing this from the announcer in the game but uh derrick car has good balance when he runs yeah so oftentimes when derrick car runs he doesn't fall over yes which is not something that you can say about every quarterback and he also he really takes his time before he runs i feel like he waits for
Starting point is 01:39:14 as many options to happen before he's like i'm you know what he goes through his progressions yes he's really good at taking his time making sure that he doesn't have a receiver open and then if he doesn't get sacked then he'll start running in perfect balance mm-hmm yep it's true all right also alex engel their fullback he stopped leaping over people and now he's just running through people like he knows that he should be doing yep yep also true so good job raiders losing by a million but whatever that game was a little bit closer than like it was a 25 point game but it was a four point game going in the fourth right so it kind of fell apart really quick yep the bucks are a problem the bucks are officially a problem they're very very good dude did you have like is
Starting point is 01:39:54 there such a thing as a baby moon i've heard about this where like people do a vacation before they're like our last time together before we have a kid no this is baby moon people this this is the eight can i go on yes yeah you want i'll take yours can i take big cats you have to get somebody pregnant yeah i have a dog uh no billy i actually had a really uh high idea of doing like a sketch where it's a dude who uh is like a terrible gm of his own life and so he keeps trading future picks for current like situations where so he'll like hit up his fiance being like i don't want to have a really big like boys weekend like i'm gonna go watch the games like week eight of the nfl like let's just pretend it's my bachelor party so he just trades away his bachelor party
Starting point is 01:40:42 yeah and then like he just keeps going down the line where he's like you know for just like the most like quick hit stuff yeah like oh like let's like just pretend it's the day i get a raise when i'm 45 yeah like i really want to watch week 12 with my guys at some point and then he gets to like he's like 27 years old and he's just he has no draft capital left and he's like i'm fucked with the last thing you can do is like okay i'll trade you my entire funeral no one comes i don't even have one just like light my body on fire like or like let's pretend this weekend was our 70th wedding anniversary yeah he's just trading everything he's sean mcvay he's like i'm gonna trade it all for win now yeah which win now is literally just i want to go eat wings with the dudes yeah watch
Starting point is 01:41:21 college football it's taco tuesday where you get you get beer towers for 999 uh so instead of having a funeral can i just go down there and get hammered till 1 a.m yes that's actually a pretty good idea yeah um all right it's yeah it's like a sketch but also everyone's life uh but yeah so should we talk baseball real quick real quick clinton kershaw mvp world series mvp why not he's 2 and 0 it would have been so awesome if they had stolen home on them tonight oh my god and that game four was incredible like one of the best world series games that no one watched uh i watched it no i know i'm just saying like it doesn't feel like on a max level but yeah it's it's it was awesome like a million lead changes and that there's something about there's something about whether it's a shot
Starting point is 01:42:07 in basketball or a throw the alligator arms coming out at the worst possible time is that throw i think who's turner turner made the throw and he just alligator armed it well turner cut off yeah and then he alligator arms the throw to home where he like he started the throw and then he he thought twice about making the throw and and uh i just there's something about the alligator arms i think there were four errors on that last play weren't there it was incredible and then kelly kenley jansen dude little league you're he was standing in the worst possible spot if he's backing him up they probably go to extra innings yeah where he was standing like in front of him right he was just he was watching the play happen you got to know where you're going to be before the play happened
Starting point is 01:42:51 he was the kid in little league who like you have to put in right field because he's going to sit down and like pick the grass yeah in the middle of the play it was that was an awesome into the game it remind me a lot of lewis gonzalez remember back in like a thousand was two thousand one one one yeah yeah yeah great ending yes love baseball all right yeah two and oh clayton kershaw i think he's gonna be here's what i'm hoping they do i'm hoping that well no he's not gonna pitch on tuesday is game six maybe bullpen ones they game seven yeah let's see yeah if it goes seven but he was uh yeah he's two and oh why not i feel like they'll give it to him right why not fuck it mookie earlier in the series yeah shit all right well that's our baseball talk it's
Starting point is 01:43:33 been a great series i would highly recommend people watch it joe bucks doing a wonderful job joe bucks doing a great job they closed the roof on him tonight so he couldn't complain about a fly over there's some really funny fans there was the dude doing the fucking dude doing a sucket he looked like he was 50 years old wearing a Hawaiian shirt that guy was living uh i don't know who's going to these games but i fucking love do you think it'd be fun to go to a game right now i was thinking about this yes like would it be fun to go to not not world series game would it be fun to go to an nfl game that had like 10 000 people yes you think so yes you put traffic would be sweet everything would be sweet you get to sit in your own fucking section everything would be sweet in
Starting point is 01:44:11 these world series games like the fans i don't think any of them have jobs but they look like they're having a great time like they really do yeah every time they show someone it's some older dude with a Hawaiian shirt i mean he literally was an old dude with a Hawaiian shirt doing suck my dick and then the guy the night before we threw the through the glove on yeah and then the the shirt nice swing bitch yeah what did it work great you usually don't get those in baseball audiences especially not in the postseason because the tickets are like five thousand dollars somehow this world series the the entire fan base the entire uh stadium is just full of like everyone's everyone's cool divorced dad they know yeah i know it's just a lot of uncles yeah
Starting point is 01:44:52 baseball you never get neutral sites like these fans don't really care who wins i think there's real fans there there's some dodgers for sure a lot of neutrals they're just there for a good time all right let's get to dion and then we will wrap up with some football guy the week and who's back of the week before we get to dion sanders want to talk to you about our great friends over at three chi three chi is the leader in hemp derived cannabinoid products all their products are formulated by a biochemist they're made in the usa with usa grown hemp when we released their delta eight products they were the first federally legal thc products sold in the usa since prohibition started almost 90 years ago delta eight is a federally legal version of thc its effects are a perfect
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Starting point is 01:46:57 them out at three chi dot com and now here's deon sanders all right it is monday so we have our favorite coach coach prime talk to us 10 15 minutes about the nfl sunday week seven where do you want to start deon we could start with the falcons being a dumpster fire we could start with the cowboys being even bigger of a dumpster fire we could start with uh what else the patriots being a dumpster fire yeah or tom brady being uh incredible at age 43 where do you want to start what stuck out to you let's start let's start with the patrons i know dan is just just taking a dump right now like he has to be furious i didn't see that one coming i didn't see it coming the patrons aren't as good as uh some thought they were i didn't think they would want a division
Starting point is 01:47:47 anyway i think i still think buffalo is going to do that but what they did the day was horrible i've never been able to associate that word with the patrons over the last decade but that today was horrible and so i mean i agree it was a very bad game what though is the fix because cam newton and there was a lot of talk early on of you know how did all these teams pass up on cam newton if you take out the seattle game which every seattle game becomes a track meet up and down he hasn't looked that great passing the ball he's looked good running the ball at times so what is the fix is it is it mechanics is it he's not fully healthy like where do you see it going uh to try to get this back on track for them well first of all let's start with the defense that's defense is a
Starting point is 01:48:35 glimpse a glimpse of what it wants were and cam is the kind of quarterback that thrives on a good defense that they could control the plot and run the football um with his read options and all of that when cam has to sit back in the pocket and throw you back into the game that's not who he is there he's not gonna be successful i've never said heard no one say consistently hey man boy cam is just just eight is alive throwing the ball today i really hadn't heard that associated with cam newt now i heard a couple people use the e-word to toss the e-word out there about the Patriots saying they've never seen a new england team play with this little effort as they did this week yeah i don't so it's it's tough for me to like watch a professional football team on tv and know
Starting point is 01:49:21 like from the outside when they're not giving 100 effort and when they are uh from your mindset like do you actually think that like maybe they've just taken their foot off the gas maybe there's something mentally going on uh i just think it's the level of play on the defensive side of the ball offense as well but really on defense like that's what we see consistently with the cowboys like and come on guys you got to try a little more now like when you start seeing long runs and you start seeing like explosion plays with run we understand you to have an explosion play which means 20 yards or more offensive play i understand that with the passing game but when i was a running game when the run has explosions that don't make any sense that means guys are not getting to the
Starting point is 01:50:02 ball guys are not doing their jobs guys are not filling their gaps and it just consistently is the kind of things that we see for the cowboys not necessarily the Patriots but we saw it today so if you look at those two teams the Patriots and the Cowboys uh you've been on some pretty good teams in the past at what point does deon sanders say it's time for the players only meeting we're gonna we're gonna have ourselves a little chat minus the coach like is now is now the time to be pushing that panic button the cowboy should have did that last week uh they should have broke the glass because it is a case of emergency and the Patriots should be doing it Monday morning they should be doing it tomorrow because somebody needs to stand up and talk and take
Starting point is 01:50:42 control because what they did today at home oh my god it was bad but i tell you what on the flip side of that the 49ers look like the 49ers that we saw at the end of the season but 40 once the Super Bowl that's who they look like with all the injuries that they have they still look great yeah no it's it's incredible i mean Kyle Shanahan is such a good coach the fact that they're able to do that with all those injuries so uh the the players only meeting how many times can you only do it once a year or could you get two can you sneak in a second yeah you can sneak in a second you can sneak in a second you can what i don't like is the leaders only meeting because if the leaders were leading it wouldn't take that i don't think that yeah i don't think that a leader
Starting point is 01:51:27 would have a leaders only meeting because why are you gonna why are you gonna exclude people you're supposed to be leading jim boylan had his leadership committee that's true and that worked out it worked out really well that was a bad so all right so so in a players only meeting uh can everyone talk or is it like no okay so explain it to us because we've never been in a players only meeting obviously okay is it's like the dogs would okay i'm just giving you history suppose we had a players only meeting in Dallas so Troy has the authority to get up and say some Mike Irvin has the authority to get up and say some in it as well principally it probably was a guy like myself Darren Woodson Charles Haley could get up and say something everybody else got to sit
Starting point is 01:52:11 down and shut up mm-hmm right so don't shut up unless it's that guy that's really not known but he works his butt off and he has the respect of the team he could possibly say something have you ever been in a players only meeting that like turned the entire season around where it actually worked no no and it's and now does is there is there one guy in the players only meeting that you know you got your eyes on you're like this guy's gonna go just snitch to the coach he's gonna tell everyone he's gonna tell the coaching staff exactly what's said here no because good teams you don't have that that guy because you get rid of it yeah like he gotta go i feel like yeah you make sure he's gone i feel like Charles Haley was a good person to have on your side and players
Starting point is 01:52:50 only you should probably just like walk out there naked and start body slamming people did you not now Charles the naked part i don't know how you knew that but yes the naked part is authentic i mean there's been like books written a big new guy yeah so like he was like when he's in the locker room he would only basically put on pants if he was walking out of the locker room right yeah Charles did anything you could think of anything a game day anything you could think of Charles did you do you know that like we know everything about those cowboys or are you saying we don't know like would you if we were like oh yeah remember Michael Irvin's white house you'd be like how do you know about that now you know you know a lot of stuff but you don't know about
Starting point is 01:53:30 everything that happened with those that was before the prime that was before me i mean i that's right right now i just googled Charles Haley when the first thing that came up was an article called Charles Haley the last naked warrior that's amazing that's amazing what a great title all right so um the Falcons i mean what do you even say like they're inventing new ways to lose we say this every week but that was Todd Gurley goes down and the Falcons win this game instead they're now one and six they should be four and three essentially uh like they have to know i wouldn't you say this Falcons like they should they should be looking to trade some of these guys right who who's gonna want them Julio Jones you don't want them no no they're not they can't trade Julio you Julio is
Starting point is 01:54:15 the franchise you can't trade but that's what i'm saying you kind of got to start to make some some tough decisions but i guess they don't know who's going to be in charge of the team next year so who would have the authority to trade anybody right now Arthur Blank yeah i'm pretty sure yeah i'm pretty sure they they have a handle on it this is what they got to start concerning themselves with the quarterback the quarterback and the owner has a real relationship and they got to figure out what direction they're going to go because when fans turn on you and start saying hey man that guy has to go you're going to have a problem but he's attached to the hip with the owner i'm not saying that it's it's Matt Ryan's turn to go but that's the first thing oftentimes people blame is the
Starting point is 01:54:58 quarterback yeah that's been the most consistent thing there yeah yeah no it's true and it's always interesting when it feels like a franchise player has a true friendship with an owner because it can get messy right i think they have more than the friendship what about Pittsburgh Tennessee do we talk about that game for a second because my takeaway was i still think that the titans are really good the way that they came back in the second half like i think that either one of these teams like any given sunday could beat the other i didn't walk away being like damn Pittsburgh like they have their number your assessment is 100 percent accurate and i think Pittsburgh won in spite of big ben today how many times do you win the game
Starting point is 01:55:38 in the quarterback those three picks he was on one like he was feeling himself he was old school big ben like how many times did that never have is no way possible like it's like underwritten rules in football if a quarterback those two picks or more is is almost impossible to win and if you get a punt return a kick return our special teams touchdown against you is no way you win it that rarely ever happens and they won the day in spite of now on a great note i cannot believe but i can and i'm happy that baker played well i'm happy okay i'm happy you brought that up because that was going to be my my last question because odell gets hurt very sad we don't want to see everyone loves watching odell beckham play you know there's
Starting point is 01:56:23 hot takes about him but i'd rather watch him play than not baker then goes just insane in that game what yeah are you gonna eat a little crow for me what are you gonna do now they played i don't know if you know they was playing the bingles yeah i love you know that okay yeah it's playing the bingles so let's not let's not burst our hands clapping let's not make our hands red clapping for baker but i'm happy that he showed us something i really am i'm you don't sound happy because he when he when he plays well my guys play well when he plays well my guys get you know they get the balls they get credit and now you see that you got guys to throw to you just got to do your job what and you played well i think he had like 21 consecutive completions he started out like
Starting point is 01:57:08 shit obviously you know he threw the interception yeah but but but so you should eat a little bit of crow just eat a little crow just put a little crow in your mouth just tiny just just the one straight the nails the toenails it's 21 straight completions how many went over 10 yards you got all see i knew you weren't i knew you weren't giving baker credit i knew it i saw that was not real i saw one that went over 10 yards and it went to the end zone and it went on the game at the very end of the game did you see that one hey hey hey let me tell you so i'm gonna tell you one of the funniest things that happened when i watched the video of us and the way you were turning around looking you knew something was up that was the funniest part of the video you knew something
Starting point is 01:57:49 was up the way you looked and turned around before it even went down right so if you didn't i messed up when i said my website i messed up when i said my website yeah i was like what the hell i can talk to you deon deon tried to dunk on me in the office and he called me in big head over he's like let me get a picture for my website and i'm like what do you mean your website you mean barstelsports.com big cat said website yeah yeah and then you tried to dunk on me i swatted you and then i mossed you then i i don't know if you saw the still the still frame of me mossing you you had your head in your hands bent over running away and then i spiked the ball in your face i wasn't there for you to spike the ball in my face but when you turned around and flinched
Starting point is 01:58:26 because you knew something was up that was the funniest part i didn't flinch that's called reaction time that's called keeping fluid hips right right ready for anything it's true i like i like fluid i actually had one last question um arch manning are we are you gonna let pft and i go and recruit him for jackson state because we will no i don't i don't know if he'd be comfortable there in jackson state well we'll make him comfortable i want you to make him comfortable but i don't know if he would be okay well i don't think he grew up in that environment let us let us recruit him you know what i'm gonna put you guys on things that i know you could really attain i don't think that's attainable put us in a position to succeed actually wouldn't that be a wonderful moment
Starting point is 01:59:09 for america if we could recruit arch manning to go play for coach prime at a historically black college um but you gotta understand that that's going to be hard though because it's a kid in my house that my coaches are recruiting right now that i want to play quarterback at the hbcu that i coach at okay so you should actually so to set us up for success you should let us recruit your son to play for you you know what i tell you what you guys got to come up with five things uh-huh that you can do or take us say that my son would want to come five ways five things and you guys got trust me what i saw the other night at the boxing thing you guys got a lot of ways to get it done okay because it's so versatile number one best reason to do it uh you have offensive guru
Starting point is 01:59:57 future quarterback whisper producer of the yak steven chay that's going to be giving you plays so he's going to be putting some stuff in that will blow your mind shay is bold shay has exploded my email already oh we know i know that's just burst yeah he he got i'm using two of his plays this week as a i'm going to take a chance and if they if they make it hey he's in oh my god he i you're creating a monster i i'm rooting for them to fail i just want you to know because he is i want him to be successful in life but he's got to be gradual because if he gets too much too fast he's gonna rub all of our faces in it he's gonna clip this god damn it all right we'll have to take this part we're gonna take this out all right coach uh thank you as always we will see you next
Starting point is 02:00:47 week all right appreciate you guys god bless you man do not ever forget me again for the boxing match or we're not gonna be friends okay there we go there we go never forget me again all right see you coach okay thanks to dion let's get to our football guy of the week and we will finish up the show with who's back football guy the week presented by philips noroko one blade the only tool that can trim edge and shave any length of hair pick up especially marked one blade barstool packed nationwide where you could win up to a thousand dollars to the barstool store and if you have your own football guy looks we want to see them tweet your funniest game day facial or body hair looks to at part of my take using trim it to win it for a chance to win a special pmt experience
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Starting point is 02:02:14 f i c h t n e r but it's thick near feat dinner yeah it's thick near okay it's like david fincher we're gonna call him fickner so what's the deal with david fickner he said he hasn't gotten a haircut gone to a gas station or restaurant or grocery store since march 16th wow so he's a huge libcock or he's already like the complete opposite and just a mountain man i don't know about maybe survivalist and had a good point had an apocalypse bunker that has come in very handy over the last year about it in the football guy blog the first half of the streak is due to on circumstances out of its control but after summer i think we've all gone to yeah yeah right you're here yeah he just liked it right he liked being lonesome i don't know probably sucks for his wife how do you survive
Starting point is 02:02:56 he's like oh sick brag you haven't done anything around the house yeah she's like no i can't keep from that he probably he probably like coronavirus hit and he was like guess what honey can't take out the trash can't do the dishes can't do anything i think that if you're a real football guy you would have just stayed at the office the entire time yeah it's like i don't know when i'm going to be able to get back in if i leave so i'm just going to kind of make this my my little guy nest yes uh steven f austin head coach colby carful i saw this he took his shirt off and celebrated with his team immediately after his lumberjacks had a big win on saturday it a beautiful thing it was great because if you see the screen grab you're like uh is this just a random dude who ran from
Starting point is 02:03:35 the stands and then something like that's my coach yeah like what do you mean that's your coach oh that's the strength no that's my head coach the head coach sometimes when us guys just get excited about stuff the first thing that we think of doing is just taking off clothes yeah for some reason just like it brings you in tune with your happiness a little bit um a couple of high school football teams in michigan they played each other in a big time mudball over the weekend i don't think i saw this on friday i didn't i saw the picture of it yeah when it's me in like exquisite detail dirty muddy okay hold on hold slow down yeah you couldn't make out the numbers because they're why i'm mud so it's like nice that's that was oh no beckham's wet drink yeah okay so i'm studying
Starting point is 02:04:19 on that right now sloppy sloppy nice was it slippery squishy slippery squishy gooey gooey moist moist any rocks in that mud that sucks when there's a rock in the mud yeah i don't know all right okay and then we're ending things with bill's fan mike jezzwald a pilot who drew a buffalo bill's logo in the air over the team stadium and surrounding areas i mean this guy this guy has to win this week if you look at the pattern that he flew in the air first of all the attention to detail he did include the buffalo penis in it nice which people don't talk i'm on a one man awareness raising wrecking crew to just let people know that the buffalo does have a penis in the logo he has that he made like every single sharp turn including some as warren sharp pointed
Starting point is 02:05:03 out like he risked his life to execute a turn this sharp to draw the logo just perfectly above western new york it's unbelievable in fact when i first saw it i thought it was fake i was like there's no way if you got like prison paul on here who was breaking down like the pilot maneuvers and loose change if you got paul watson to look at this he'd be like there's no way that uh that an untrained pilot would ever be able to pull off this turn without like 30 years in a jet all right so football guy the week philpsin roco votes philpsin roco one blade football guy the week won it last week oh that was random when we did this podcast and then he came out after us on twitter now we know his name okay here we go yes oh here's the f u covet guy yes yeah perfect
Starting point is 02:05:44 perfect perfect uh okay thank you jake great job philpsin roco one blade football guy the week go vote uh hank you want to start with who's back of the week sure is it khabib my who's back of the week is khabib yeah why uh he fought this weekend moved on to 29 in o and then he retired and came out football guy that he had a broken foot the whole time wow and did it for his dad who passed away recently that's why he's retiring right so he can't this was his dad but he won it for him too right right his dad passed away in the past year or so and then so he's like this might you know i can't do it again without my dad i'm upset just like he's he's such a good fighter but also he's his hats are just the best must see tv you tune in to see what kind of hat he's gonna wear
Starting point is 02:06:32 afterwards that and uh i don't know if you guys ever seen the clips of him when he talks to his opponents as he beats the fuck out of him yeah it's the scariest thing in the world when he's like just smashing someone's face and he's like i deserve this like title shot i i deserve this i'm the one like you sorry i had to do this but i have to do this i'm the one yeah and he's such a good fighter that he's fighting like the best competition but there just hasn't been anyone that can challenge him yeah really at all what did conor say conor's like uh yeah he's a respect for your father i don't want to get my ass kicked again good performance team kabeb i will carry on respecting the dulces on your father again also to you and family yours and cillian greggers wow
Starting point is 02:07:12 that's pretty nice that's very classy and i think that means mcgregor's next fight will be a title fight yeah and mcgregor again doesn't have to get his ass kicked by kabeb because the way kabeb kicks your ass has got to be the worst way it's to me he's a snake the whole like foot stomping stuff too it's just like you realize very quickly stepping to the ring that you've made a grave mistake with your entire life reaching up to that point i saw that i sound crazy was the one of him in the uh the river it was like an ice cold river yeah swimming upstream and he was just flying do you think you can catch him no if he was a fish i could be able to if he was supposed to or you could go when i say snake i mean it in a very positive way in the fact that he just will he
Starting point is 02:07:51 like strangles the life out of his opponents and makes him tap and it's awesome what are you looking at i think yeah that's a tough show uh pft what's your who's back my who's back of the week is the shiano man and ruckers is back ruckers got a big win they are bold eligible i kind of told everyone who listens to the show on friday that was going to happen they are bold you're welcome i did i told everyone i love ruckers ruckers i love indiana really they just have one more win to hit the uh the season over which i did take on ruckers because i'm a believer in this shiano man at least for a short period of time i will believe in uh the shana man so it's good to see him back and then my other who's back of the week is another coach who we love that we haven't seen around in a while
Starting point is 02:08:30 it's Hugh Jackson yeah Hugh Jackson went on the radio in cleveland and uh discusses baker mayfield he said i think baker is not playing in a system in my mind that showcases his talent and ability so if there's one person that knows exactly how not to showcase baker's ability i would take it from Hugh Jackson did you see Hugh also is a big time like dm reply guy i saw some of those floating around oh really people like giving him shit and he's he's a big like you know uh i'm praying for you i'll think about you it's sad that you have to you have to belittle yourself and your family by trolling on the internet type of guy he's trying to improve people like one passive aggressive comment at a time he's the last human on earth that thinks you can change someone's opinion
Starting point is 02:09:14 online yeah bless your heart i'm gonna try to fix that so the article i just have to explain it to people that's all i gotta explain to him in dm's and on twitter and they'll totally see my side the article i read about him uh was very funny maybe unintentionally because it quoted him as saying the alpha male baker is not playing as well as he thinks he should or anyone thinks that he should said jackson who went three 36 and one as head coach of the browns before being fired midway the 2018 season so yeah i'm here for more Hugh Jackson like going back doing the whole like talk show circuit again and saying how kevin stafansky is screwing up the browns by by having them at five and two or whatever like i i could deal with a little bit more Hugh jackson in my
Starting point is 02:09:53 life he's really he is prime i really want to be relevant and uh oh i remember what it was someone was like uh over under like uh five wins that you would get if you or like you wouldn't win a game you went to the browns or something back to the browns and he was like ha i won six games when i was with the raiders like as a brag and i was like you like that means you were six and ten but you also won three games yeah as the coach of the browns yes he's become like the john kasek of sports where he just like has stunk at everything that he does but he goes back on the air saying that he was an expert when he was there doing it which i mean if you look around sports media in general that's that's the name of the game absolutely so more Hugh Jackson making a fool of
Starting point is 02:10:36 himself um all right my who's back is uh having something nice and then having it crushed uh so grandmert's friday night did you guys watch wisconsin quarterback he was electric 20 for 21 five touchdowns pretty much like i don't know i was losing my mind like hey we have a real quarterback and then it came out today that he tested positive for the cocoa and the big 10 in uh their attempts to get football back made the rule that if you test positive for the cocoa you'd sit for 21 days so just as i was like this is gonna be incredible we have a we're passing it down the field well who are your next three games uh nebraska someone else that will beat and then michigan okay the backups are chase wolf perdu in the middle oh man all right you know what hold on time out time
Starting point is 02:11:24 up i'm gonna say something nice about perdu because perdu and i have a rivalry where perdu fans hate my guts perdu i bet on iowa i thought because jeff brahm ron delmore both out i was wrong perdu was very very good against iowa that's a gutsy win that's a decent team and therein lies my very nice compliment about perdu i'll say this nice so you're worried about them you still have 75 male yeah college i could never last for four years on your campus like that takes a tremendous amount of intestinal fortitude you got astronauts uh yeah no uh i'm hoping it's false positive but i who knows the big 10 this is where it all kind of falls apart with the big 10 having these rules like because they made these rules dragging their feet being like all right
Starting point is 02:12:09 we'll come back but we've got to be extra extra cautious and now 21 days makes no sense it makes no sense right it's just an arbitrary number that sounds a little bit longer than most schools than 14 yeah right yeah they're like okay what's longer it's more than one week more than 14 yeah so um i mean nick sabin beat kovat in like nine hours it was less than that yeah so i think grandmars can probably play but whatever i'll i will i'm still going through it big cat that's true he's got the brain fog that's right you don't want to rush but it is chase wolf is the chase wolf and danny vanden boom yeah great names dugs names chase 100 percent dog's new real names any vanden what's a good literally translates for chase wolf uh i don't know why
Starting point is 02:12:50 lee coyote there you go chase wolf and danny vanden boom um so yeah it's just perfect wisconsin that i had that moment where i was like this is incredible we have a real quarterback and uh then he tested positive for the cocoa in a shortened season with this stupid 21 day rule so he's gonna miss like half the season great awesome uh all right wait wasn't he in the same meeting rooms as the other quarterbacks i have no idea how any of this works it's fucking so that'll if you guys just didn't have a quarter you just run an entire like what what is that formation that we talked about with warren sharp where it was all fullbacks yeah we could we have that we have the ability to do that literally translates to ramsey bolton there we go yeah there you go hang
Starting point is 02:13:31 nice hang i understand that reference nice and we yes game of thrones us game of throna throny axe throny axe yeah throny axe yeah we're the throny axe yeah uh got squad all right do you want to do a who's back because billy's not here jake yeah thank you i have two oh wow oh kind of over chiever okay hey first the early 2000s phoenix suns oh yeah steve nasher yeah mari stodderman wine baths marie stoddermire yeah yeah he's gonna get he's gonna be a k.d and kairi wait what's going on well how did he choose coaching staff oh yeah okay so the next tell us who's on the coaching staff Just a Mari and Steve Nash. No, there's others.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Yeah. Like. Who's the only one who doesn't matter? Sean Marion. I don't know. Let's see. Okay. Raja Bell would be good.
Starting point is 02:14:22 D'ow. I like that. At Mari Stottemire. They were a really fun team to watch. Yeah. They're fun-ass team on, uh... Of course, they got fucked by the Spurs. They got fucked by the Reps.
Starting point is 02:14:31 All-time video games, too. Well, they kind of fucked themselves, but it was more the Spurs. It was Bruce Bowen being scumbag. I think it was Bruce Bowen. He was way fucked. Jock Fawn. It was Bruce Bowen.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Hey mom, Brian. Jock Fawn was on. He was there last year. Yeah. Right. Was it Bruce Bowen? What? Who was a fucking scumbag to the Suns
Starting point is 02:14:44 and started that, uh... Yeah. I think it was. I think it was. I don't know. Where he shoved Steve Nash into the scores table. Yeah, and then everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:51 Yeah, that was Bowen. Um, but the Nets are also gonna be doing, like, the alternating coaches thing. So really, it's just, it's not Steve Nash heading it up. We're gonna get head coach Mari Stottemire. Hopefully, he will bring the wine baths to the Nets. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:05 How much does a wine bath cost? Um, well, I think it's just, it's as cheap as the wine. So, Franzia. Ooh. Is a sponsor that we love. The best way to do it would be to use Franzia. Prices range from anywhere from $75, which will get you a simple thermal bath
Starting point is 02:15:19 and aromatherapy and access to the relaxation area to $550, which will get you the red wine ritual. There you go. And then you can sell your bath wine to all the simps out there. Yeah. Oh, it's Robert Ori. I think it was Robert Ori.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Uh, Bruce Bowen was a scumbag for other things, maybe. He was just a pest, but Robert Ori was the, was the person who did that. So, they, the spurs basically stopped the suns from getting a title because of the stupid you can't leave the bench rule that was in place because one time Ron Artes went and beat the fuck out of a bunch of pistons fans.
Starting point is 02:15:55 One time. And then everyone had to change every rule. Um, my other who's back is, uh- You were like four. Yeah, I don't remember. That's crazy. He's a recurring guest, Andrew Siciliano. Back on the Direct TV Red Zone channel.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Great to see him back. It was body's all healthy. Yeah, I'm glad he's safe. Yeah. I'm glad he's very healthy. He's a recurring guest. Yeah. I do not like him.
Starting point is 02:16:17 I don't have a problem with Andrew Siciliano. I do. But. He bothers me. He, when you listen to more Scott Hansen, you realize that Siciliano. Scott cares. Siciliano sometimes.
Starting point is 02:16:27 They both are awesome. It sounds like he's on a couple of ways a little bit. Scott cares. Scott cares about the gamblers out there. He cares about fantasy. He cares about telling people, not giving people false hope. He cares. They're both great.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Siciliano is just there to cash a paycheck. No. He enjoys himself. He does. Scott Hansen's only job is Red Zone. It's literally his only job. Do you do anything else? I think he hosts a few NFL network shows.
Starting point is 02:16:50 I don't think so. But then they brought, uh, Dan. I've never seen. Dan Halley. Dan Halley. They brought in when Siciliano was asked. That was great. It was interesting.
Starting point is 02:16:58 He was a breath and fresh air. Yeah. He, uh, he very clearly got some instructions saying like, don't say anything. Don't try to do this job better than Siciliano. Yeah. Probably from Siciliano. I was like,
Starting point is 02:17:08 I will give you COVID if you do this job better than. A cough in your, I'll spin your mouth if you try to say anything. I don't recall. Yeah. Jake is the ongoing theme. I got to stick up for my fellow alum. Jake, at some point you just have to, you have to be like,
Starting point is 02:17:23 Hey, call a spade a spade. Sometimes a guy screws up and Siciliano being born is a screw up. No. No. You can't get mean. We got rare cat right now. That's not nice. I mean, he said, he's, he's led me astray many a time.
Starting point is 02:17:38 I mentioned the fucking Cody Park. He missed being a gambling moment. Mention it. Just mention it. Okay. I think he does a great job. All right. It's a very tough job.
Starting point is 02:17:48 He seems like a lot of prep. Oh, there we go. All right. I, we have had him on it. I don't actually personally hate him. I just, he, he drives me nuts. And you know what? I, it's one of those like it kind of makes me, it kind of gives me a little extra
Starting point is 02:18:00 something. I'll give him a backhand accompaniment. It gives me an extra something on Sunday to have that hate in my heart. It's like, um, so he keeps me sharp, iron sharpens iron, Siciliano. If you associate somebody, like if you watch a certain game and you end up losing your bet and he's the one that informs you that your bet loses, you end up carrying on some of that feeling towards him. Like if you're sick when you're like six or seven years old and you have the flu and
Starting point is 02:18:22 you remember eating a certain food and then you can't have that food for the rest of your life without wanting to scream at it. That's what big cat goes through is Siciliano for fucking him over on some bets when he was like 15 years old. It's good to have a foe every now and then. It gives you something to wake up when you lose a bet. Correct. So you know what Siciliano?
Starting point is 02:18:40 You serve a great purpose for me. You give me someone that I can just project all my anger onto and for that I thank you sir and let me know when your birthday is. I wish you happy birthday. I'm happy you were born and happy he's back. All right. Let's do numbers. Eight.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Fifty eight. Eight's gonna. Fifty six. Seventeen. Seventeen. The Ocho. Show it to me. What would Billy have picked.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Someone say something Billy would have. Twenty six. Sixty nine. Twenty six is Billy's bet. I hope he gets it. Twenty one. Fuck. Nothing.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Who was close? Billy. Billy was close. Three left. Twenty six. Twenty six. Twenty six is Billy's bet. I hope he gets it.
Starting point is 02:19:21 Twenty one. Fuck. Nothing. Who was close? Billy. Billy was close. Three left. He was really close.
Starting point is 02:19:29 Fuck. This is right bullshit. This is not. Do you have an animal fact? Love you guys. Go ahead. Do it. Have it.
Starting point is 02:19:39 You have nothing? You have no animal facts. What was the name of one of your pets? Here I'll send you guys a picture of my dog's boner. Well don't. No Hank. Hank said. Here's the animal fact.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Hank said to us hey you guys want to see a fucking huge dog boner and BFDI both said no. Absolutely not. We're not beastiality dudes. We're not beastiality dudes. The craziest dog. I mean it's one of those like if I have to see you. Do not send it.
Starting point is 02:20:00 Do not send it. No we don't. No we don't. I'm going to block you. No. I'm going to send your number to the FBI. Don't send it. Don't send it.
Starting point is 02:20:08 All right. Here's the fun animal fact. Koala fingerprints are so close to humans that they can taint crime scenes. Fun fact. Wow. They also get chlamydia right? They also get chlamydia because they fucking. That's why they're finger.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Yeah. They finger and fuck all the time. All right. Classic koalas. We'll see you everyone Wednesday. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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