Pardon My Take - NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, Jets Huge Win, A Regrettable Vikings Bet Plus Astros Win The World Series

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

NFL Week 9 and we start with Fastest 2 minutes then recap every game (00:01:56-00:08:21) We then recap every game. Jets 20, Bills 17 (00:09:48-00:21:46) Vikings 20, Commanders 17 (00:21:46-00:35:00) Lions 15, Packers 9 (00:35:00-00:45:25) Dolphins 35, Bears 32 (00:45:25-01:00:19) Patriots 26, Colts 3 (01:00:19-01:11:04) Chargers 20, Falcons 17 (01:11:04-01:21:03) Bengals 42, Panthers 21 (01:21:03-01:25:23) Jaguars 27, Raiders 20 (01:25:23-01:37:05) Seahawks, 31, Cardinals 21 (01:37:05-01:45:29) Bucs 16, Rams 13 (01:45:29-01:56:26) We then do Football guy of the week (01:56:26-02:05:27), and finish with who's back of the week and talk World Series (02:05:27-02:44:18)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take week nine of the NFL season, we're going to recap every game. Fastest two minutes, we're going to have to talk a little World Series, said, said, Max, said, Nuff said, said, said. Maybe a quick touch on some college football, because it was a crazy weekend, and who's back the weekend football guy of the week.

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Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we're taking higher Welcome to Part of My Take presented by Game Time. Go download it right now, use the code PMT. First time users, $20 off your first purchase, terms apply. Today is Monday, November 7th, week 9. Alright, so we start. We've heard your complaints. We've heard the fans asking for this.

So we start with Mr. INT. Aaron Rodgers who threw three on Sunday while yelling at his teammates for running out of Ayahuasca. Lions fans, if your boner lasts for over two hours after taking Zylstra, please consult your physician as the tight end was elevated from the practice squad and made an immediate impact. In a touching tribute to everyone's favorite

spherical video game creature, Kirby Joseph swallowed two Rodgers passes and spit out an L at the Reeling Packers. R-E-L-A-X, relax Packers fans. Your team can't blow a playoff game without even making the dance. The Lions, 15. The Packers, 9. Huh? Lions? Huh?

The Lions? Lions are hot. Down to Georgia, where Atlanta was feeding umbilical cordyrel Patterson, giving life to the Falcons' playoff chances. Khalil Mattress-Max said, Fuck you to London, ripping the ball away and keeping the Falcons to 17 and under. Just the way Drake likes it.

The game took a crazy turn. As part of my take one, Graham recovered a fumble, but in a touching tribute to my dear friend, Henry Lockwood, he lost the ball, gained by fumbling it back. Has Hank ever won the lottery ball machine, boom? He hasn't, teach. Joshua Jeffrey Palmer told all the fans at home,

I'm gonna let you leave, but first watch Cameron Dicker win this game. Chargers, 20. Falcons, 17. Up to Chicago, where Tyreek Hill Withers was singing just the two of us with his quarterback as he put up another monster day. Bears fans were confused watching a waddle run slants at Soldier Field on Sunday,

only to realize Tom was probably asleep on his couch in the suburbs as his son Jalen lit up the secondary. Let me take you down, cause I'm going to Justin Strawberry Fields. This quarterback is real, and there's nothing to get stressed about Justin Strawberry Fields forever, as the quarterback ran for a regular season record

178 yards. The Dolphins win a shootout, as Mike McDaniel Day-Lewis is a method acting as a really good football coach. Dolphins, 38. Bears, 35. Over to Ralph John Maryland, where the battle between two gritty, scrappy, deceptively fast receivers took place,

as Dax don't care about your feelings. After Millen scored, what felt like the winning touchdown for the commanders? Viking fans looked like they had the Washington Monument in their pants, as Justin Jefferson Memorial scored early. William Henry Harrison Smith caught an interception like it was a nasty case of pneumonia, as Zachary Taylor Heineke had a forgettable

performance in Washington Sunday. Vikings 20, the commanders 17. In Cincinnati, where Joe mix in a water, scored a touchdown to start the scoring. Then Joe Richard Millhouse mix in scored a touchdown, as he said, I am not a crook. After that, the Bengals running back crossed the Joe Mason mix in line for a score.

And then Joe mix in a match, switched things up with a receiving touchdown. Finally, Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, and Joe mix in, finished it off with another score. Wait, Joe mix in scored five touchdowns? Some spread. Bengals 42, Panthers 21.

Down to Duval, where Josh McDaniel Day-Lewis is character acting as a really city head coach, because stop me if you've heard this before. But the Raiders blew a 17-point lead. Derek Cardi B went up against WAP, winning-ass Peterson. Josh, very cool Jacobs, stepped over a few defenders,

but it was Travis Matthew Hien, who looked more comfortable in the backfield scoring twice. The Jaguars scratch out the... Raiders on way to a victory. Jack 27, Las Vegas 20. Are you okay, Boom? I'm not... I'm not... I'm not... Are you okay, Boom?

I'm copping the ball up like Taekwondo. Taekwondo, part of my Taekwondo. We had to top up A where box fans were forced to watch in agony, as two girls, one cup, played out in front of their eyes yet again, when Matthew and Cooper linked up for a first half score. Speaking of poop,

it looked like Todd Toilet Bull's team was circling the drain all the way up until Scotty doesn't know how to catch the football, seemingly ended the game. But as the old saying goes, never count our touchdown Tom. As the ageless wonder led his team down the field in the final seconds.

Cade, oughtn't you be going to bed, Tom? It's past your bedtime. Help seal the victory and send the box back into the win column. People are starting to ask if Sean Gary McVander Chuck is actually kind of full of shit. Box 16, Rams 13. And we finished in Glendale, Arizona,

where fans were putting F's in the chat for Kyler Murray, who looked like he had an extra hour of mourning. Speaking of Call of Duty, EatPrey Metcalf loved hanging out in the end zone and didn't need a poop mobile to take him away this time. Cliff Energy Bar Kingsbury doesn't look like he's celebrating No Nut November

as it looks like they're coming for his job. Kenneth Paltrow Walker continues to make some cold plays and the Seattle Seahawks are a name that no one expected to see at the top of the rankings. Seahawks 31, Cardinals 21. And that is week nine brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Chevy has the commanding unstoppable Chevy Silverado.

Learn more at Chevy.com. The best truck ever created the Chevy Silverado. Again, learn more at Chevy.com. Tell them PMT sent you. They are the great sponsor of fastest two minutes. Week nine in the books. Well, sort of. We still got a half a football to play. We're watching the second half of Titans Chiefs.

Titans will recap the game once it goes final, but they just play angry. And I don't. It's crazy. It's tractor-sito season. It might be able to switch up. Yeah, he just has. They might not win this game,

but it's just like every time you think that you could count out the Titans, Mike Ray will get some up for a big game. Also, Chris Collinsworth made a very funny statement at the start of this game, because Kaderious Tony got into the game for a little bit. Yeah, first play, first catch. Yeah. And he said, I think that Kaderious Tony would go one-one overall

if I were drafting players to be on a team of tag in the NFL. I think that's got to be Tyreek or Kyler. Kyler, but Tyreek is pretty good. Tyreek is such a fucking beast. Tomorrow, because he'd probably punch you in the face if you touched him. And then you're it permanently as you're knocked out on the ground. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

Sean Watson, he'd probably come on you. Yeah. Okay. What else you got? That's the next one that I thought of. Yeah. That's probably it. Yeah.

I mean, it's a funny statement for Collinsworth to just throw that out there. Tag is an all-time game. It is. Yeah. All right, so week nine in the books, we will recap that game when it finishes. It was a fun week nine. Had some crazy, crazy ends to games.

And I guess we got to start with the craziest game, Jets 20, Bill 17. The Jets get their statement win. We talked about it, you know, going into this stretch they had that if they can win one or even two of these three games against the Patriots, Bills, Patriots, they would have to be considered very much for real. I'm ready to consider them very much for real. Their defense is really, really fucking good.

And they made, as Josh Allen said, which is accountability, he said after the game, it's tough to win when your quarterback plays like shit, just as blunt as it could be. It's a fact. And he did play like shit. He played like shit. Josh Allen played really, really bad today. Well, I've heard a few people say, well, yes, the Jets defense did play well.

They only blitzed twice, which I think Billy talked about on Thursday. He brought up that great point. Yeah, he brought up, I said it, and then you said it. Yeah, and then I said it. So they only blitzed twice, and they got pressure on Josh. But Josh Allen also made a couple of really bad throws on his own without the defense getting in his face about it. He played badly.

Other podcasts will talk about maybe the fact that Josh Allen might be injured, and that's why I played poorly. We're not going to do it. But I have heard a lot of people say that. Josh Allen has a couple stinkers every year, and I don't even know if this was a stinker. Josh Allen sucked. It was more the Jets defense is really fucking good on all three levels.

Saus Gardner is just an absolute monster. And yeah, like the Jets, that wasn't a fluke win. The Jets just were better than the Bills. They were. And I know people will also say like, oh, yeah, the Bills had a bunch of guys out on secondary. They did miss Matt Milano, but everyone has injuries, including the Jets. So I don't take anything away from the Jets.

It was just a good win, a win that a lot of people didn't see coming. And now the Jets are. I don't really know what to like. You kind of have to take them seriously. I'm taking them very seriously. It was also a scoreboard revenge game because remember when the Bills released their design of what their next stadium is going to look like. Yeah.

And they had the giant buffalo in front of them. Yep. The scoreboard said 24 three Bills over Jets. Oh, shit. On that. So they gave them built bulletin board material by accident. And then and then the Jets account. Some nerd architect.

Yeah. Yeah. It was probably like somebody in the Bills for an office saw the initial design was like, Hey, can we just like have it make the Jets look really bad? Yeah. Which actually is like, that's kind of a bitch ass move by the Bills because they could have gone after any one of their other rivals or opponents. They very clearly went after the one that they thought at the time wouldn't be

that good. Well, I think maybe they're maybe they're now starting to feel threatened where it's like we have to like we have to just show who's boss. The Jets are next up. Are the Jets next up? But yeah, maybe they put that on there because it was actually showing respect to the Jets is what you're saying. The Jets are next up.

So the Jets then tweeted out an image of a scoreboard after the game like going back at you with your own design rubbing that which is fair game. That is absolutely fair. So Billy, I would love to give you credit for this win. Unfortunately, you you disavowed your quarterback. You did pick Sam Ellen. Over Zach Wilson. We'll get to you for the Colts recap.

Yeah. I didn't say that. If you go play the tape back, I said, I just want a quarterback who doesn't throw interceptions. And guess what? We got one today. Yeah. Do you pick Sam Ellen?

No, no, no. We gave you the opportunity. We will play the tape. Okay. Somebody will actually send us to actually, you know, we can look at the tape or so. Yeah. I won a quarterback. You're gaslighting us.

I said, all I want, you can play the tape. I said, all I want is a quarterback doesn't throw interceptions and Zach Wilson didn't throw interceptions and he ran forward when scrambling, which was amazing to see. That was that was big. He, Zach Wilson played well. He didn't. He wasn't like electric, but he made of some big plays on third down the, the past the Denzel Mims was like, that was the game pretty much a big, big time spot, big time throw.

And yeah, he, he didn't kill them, which is what he needs to do because that defense is that good. He needs to be a game manager. Yeah. As a 23 year old in the workforce, I think that Zach Wilson, I think he needs to manage the game more big. He doesn't have to do it all on his own. I agree.

I agree. He did. And Billy's right. When he scrambled, he went forward at least twice. I saw him running in a forward direction. That was nice to see. I, I don't know if the bill's defense is really, they're built to be able to get after the quarterback because they're built, assuming that they're going to get into shootouts for

the teams. And so if, then if they have to try to stop the run, I don't know if that's what they're going to be able to do. Like the Jets, they had a great game plan for them. No, they mismapped Milano, but yeah, the, like Zach Wilson played a good game and the Jets as a team played a great game. That's, that would be my summation of the game. I think that's a pretty fair take.

Like you could, you still want more out of Zach Wilson, but in terms of not killing you and also making those big plays where it's like, Hey, we need you to get the first down here and we need you to make a big time throw. Yeah. He, he answered the call and that was like a, a very big step in the right direction for Zach Wilson and him, uh, as dinner, Laski said, growing the fudge up. So Billy, what, what would you like to talk about in this game? Uh, Zach Wilson maturity.

We touched upon it a lot before, but he didn't force it. He didn't try to make plays where they didn't need to be done. He let the punter punt the ball and let his defense get on the field. It was a grimy day in East Rutherford, a little bit of drizzle, like overcast and he showed he can grind out games and those types of conditions, you know, he didn't throw for over 200 yards, but he didn't need to. And he won the game. That's all you need to ask from your rookie quarterback.

Yeah. Yeah. And that opening kickoff was very funny. Oh my God. That was so fun. It was so fun. I mean, I don't know what being like, how did it end up? It's like, well, I didn't know how it was going to end up, but if you can't laugh at

the kicker slipping on the opening kickoff and just nailing, nailing the guy, seven yards. That was, that's fucking funny. What do you mean? That was funny, Billy. Uh, I mean, he is second year, second year, young quarterback, no, but with COVID amnesty. Yeah. COVID amnesty was getting about this year, but it was a drizzly day in New Jersey and

you could tell from the second they kicked the ball that it was going to be one of those weird games. And I think that's where Josh Allen struggled was that he couldn't get a grip on the ball and he just got lost in the sauce. Lost in the sauce. That's good. Yeah. So.

Sauce Gardner, rookie of the year. I hope. Defense of rookie of the year. I think. Yeah. Because they, yeah, they do offense. Obviously there's going to be Kenneth Walker. Well, I was thinking because the Seahawks have a defensive back that's pretty good too.

Yes. They could, they could actually split offense and defense rookie of the year. Also, Damian Pierce is a monster. It's actually pretty much, uh, if you want to decide who's going to win offensive and defensive rookie of the year, just see which team has like a prime time game latest in the season. Cause that, you know what I mean? As far as going.

Yeah. If they, if, if, if sauce Gardner has a game late in the season, prime time gets a pick. Boom. Stamp it. If Kenneth Walker has a game late in the season, gets like two touchdowns, boom, stamp it. That's how easy it is to decide. One thing as, as Americans, we need to be prepared for is as flex scheduling rears its

ugly head. There's a high likelihood we're going to see the New York Jets playing in some football games at some times that we usually don't see the New York Jets playing in football games. Listen, their, their defense is very fun to watch. Those colors in prime time are going to be really strange for people, but they're good and their bills and their defense is fun. 12 November, December 11th, the bit they play at Buffalo.

That could definitely be a Sunday night game. Wow. That would be something. I think if we continue to see what we're seeing, we're going to see one coach from New York winning coach of the year. Oh, you think Robert Salah? Yeah. Or?

Sean McDermott. No. Downstate. More in New Jersey. So that's, yeah. It's a different state. You're saying New Jersey. Exactly.

We're going to get our first New Jersey. Yeah, first New Jersey coach of the year. So. Got it. Who knows? Giants of Jets. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's, there's, if they go on to Fiegel though, it'd be hard not to give it to Nick Sirian. And we're going to get to it later, but I think Pete Carroll should definitely be in the conversation as well. Okay. Yeah. We might split our vote. Yeah.

We might. We've already split it in half. We're doing nuclear physics now. Yeah. On the atoms. We're just splitting them. We're splitting the atom. Yeah.

We're just going to give everyone a vote of the year, except for Josh McDaniels and Cliff Kingsbury. I think that's fair. Totally fair. Every other coach is deserving in some way. Okay. Any last thoughts? Oh, the, one thing that Zach Wilson, Billy, you like this coachable, they afterwards,

the game, they, they, he said that they stressed in practice getting the ball out of his hands faster. He was last in the NFL the last two years in 3.07 seconds. And today he got the ball out of his hands in 2.31 seconds coachable. He cut the scramble and looking down field. That whole thing from the Patriots game, that whole sort of going towards backwards towards the sideline and trying to make a play. He just totally took that out of his play call.

It looked a lot better. It looked amazing. He took the five, he took the five yard first down scramble when he needed to. And he basically did everything that I wanted to do. And I'm very happy. Yeah. Give me a grade. I give him a A-minus.

Okay. That's okay. That's high. Yeah. You weighed it heavily on if they win. No. Yeah. Yeah.

That's fine. But I gave him an A-minus because, you know, not every play was great. Like that drive where he coughed it up, Vaughn Miller took him down, couldn't have, you know, maybe be a little smarter in that situation and tuck up when you like, you know, but you know, it was, he won. I think you just got a great pass. You got a great pass. He wins.

He's passed. This week he passed. And I would love to say Billy, I love to say Billy was right, but we're going to have to get to your quarterback, Sam Elger, to decide whether you were right or wrong. By the way, we can't judge first quarterback. We'll save it when we get there. Okay. All right.

But again, you did pick him over Zach Wilson. And I never, we will go and examine the tape. Play the tape. Play the tape. It's very clear. Said that. It was last Monday's show. Never said that.

I said I wanted a quarterback. We can you text memes to get it just so that we can get it live on air. We can just listen to that altogether. Yeah. We should have it at the end of the show. At the end of the show, we will do a live fact check. Yeah. We'll just listen to it.

I don't think I ever specifically said. Right. So we'll listen to it. If we were wrong, we'll say we're wrong. Okay. Okay. Next up Vikings, good win for the Jets. Jets are for real.

They are right now, I think in second place in the, or is it tied for second place? No, they, because they beat the dolphins. They're in second place in the ASEs. Wow. The ASEs. That's going to come into play. That is going to come into play. And it's, it's now like the Jets, there's a lot of football left to be played.

And there's a, there's a very like muddy middle class of the ASE, although with the way the cheats are playing right now and the fact that Bill's lost, maybe the entire AFC is just a bunch of pretty good teams. No great teams. Is it mid? I don't know. Maybe the whole league is. I think football might be mid right now.

It's kind of crazy. Scoring's way down. I, I looked this up earlier. If you were to guess off the top of your head, how many touchdowns do you think are scored in an NFL game? Um, what do you think? What's the five? I would say five.

4.5. Yeah. Somewhere between four and five. I was going to say five too. Five and a half. I'll say five and a half. What? 2.31.

That's this year? Yeah. Oh man. The chiefs just turned it over. The Titans are going to win this game. Wait, that might be per team. That would be crazy because that would mean every game was like 2.31 per team sounds about right?

Yeah. So it would be like five. Yeah. It might be per team. Yeah. That was a stat back for us. It happens, happens to all of us. Well the way, the way that it's written did not say per team.

Yeah. But then I said it out loud. And you were like four. And I was like, that's way too low to be per team. Yeah. But anyways, it's down. Scoring is very down. But it's way, way down.

It's down. It was like over 2.5 I think last year. Yeah. No, the unders have been hitting at a record pace, wondering why I don't win anything. But yeah, that's, it hasn't been fun. Travis Kelsen just threw his helmet. He's very upset because he just gave the ball away. All right.

Next up Vikings, 20 commanders, 17. All right. So let's start with this. We decided over the weekend, we have talked a lot of shit about the Vikings. They're seven and one frauds. We refuse to admit that they're, they're Super Bowl contenders. I think they might be the worst seven and one team of all time. They are, they are a good team.

I'm not going to say that I'm not going to pretend they're not a good team. But we, we were like, Hey, we got to do something because the, the Minnesota listeners of this podcast, they need some type of satisfaction where if we end up being dead ass wrong about this Vikings team, there has to be a punishment and you throughout PFT that if the Vikings win the Super Bowl, at least me and you, I don't know who else is in. We're all going to get Kirk Cousins tattoos on his face. I'm going to get Kirk Cousins face tattooed on my ass. Yeah.

If they, if they win the Super Bowl, I will do that as well. And I think most Vikings fans understand how we feel about Kirk. Like we know that the Vikings are a good team. We know they're fine, but like Kirk Cousins, it's going to be very difficult for us to ever fully buy in on Kirk and he's been playing pretty well. And then he taunts you by saying you like that right in your face, which is a soft insult. Yeah. And I can't, I feel bad fighting back against Kirk Cousins.

Like if it's Dr. Seuss getting into a battle rap with you, you can't come over the top with profanity. You have to figure out a way to just like, I don't know, embrace. He's a nice guy. So nice. And he's infuriatingly nice. And then they dress him up with the chains. So here's my only question, PFT.

Do we need to have a punishment if they get to the Super Bowl? If they get to the Super Bowl, I would, but they don't win. I would say that that probably, that means that Kirk Cousins is, is not a fraud entirely. If they get to the Super Bowl, maybe we get tattoos just saying we were wrong. I don't know. Or maybe the score. I don't know. Oral shirts that you could wear if we interview him out in Arizona for the Super Bowl, assuming

they're there. What would they be? Just saying we were wrong. Yeah. I maybe just get an I was wrong tattoo. Yeah. I was wrong. I could get an I was wrong tattoo.

I'll do that as well. All right. There you go. And you know what? I'll swing the pie. I'll also, I'll convert to whatever denomination of Christianity Kirk Cousins is. Okay. I'm going to be out on that, but I will do the I was wrong tattoo.

If they get to the Super Bowl and if they win the Super Bowl, I will get a Kirk Cousins fate. I'll get his face tattooed on me. Yeah. I'm going to get. Yeah. So there you go. Vikings is now tattooed.

Now you can't be upset at us because now we have stakes in the game. Like you, we have our side. You have your side. This is the battle lines have been drawn. This is what it is. And if we end up being right, you guys, and if the Vikings don't make it to the Super Bowl, I think any Vikings fan who's listening should get our faces tattooed on their body, but I'm not going to tell.

I'm not going to force them. We're doing a handshake right now, but it would be nice over the air. It'd be nice if they were, if they were, they would reciprocate the way I look at it. Big cat is sometimes when you're looking at being real wrong on a take, you got to double down. Yeah. And so that's kind of where I am right now where the Vikings all sides are pointing to them being kind of real.

And I'm just, I can't, I cannot admit that I was wrong about, but even going to double down even the way this game played out. And the commanders had it. And then Taylor Heineke just did too much Taylor Heineke stuff where they've, we've heard it before. I think Ron Rivera said afterward that it's like a roller coaster. Yeah. And then Terry McLaurin last week said that he plays every game like it's his last game.

I don't know if that's good or bad thing. It's a great thing. Yeah. Well, it is, but it also is like, Hey, I don't have to, I don't have to worry about any of this. Yeah. I don't have to worry about the repercussions of, of the passes I'm going to make. I figured out why I love Taylor so much.

And obviously like the way that he plays, it's, it's great. It's a lot of fun watching him, but like he's not going to be the quarterback of the future. I think that we'll probably look for somebody else to be a starter besides now he is. What about the picture? They're selling 2023 commanders season tickets. Yeah. His picture.

Yeah. Because he puts asses in. Right. Because he's the future. Because he's fun to watch. And I think he's a great quarterback to root for in the Dan Snyder era because ultimately like I can't, I can't put all of myself into this team because in the background, I know for a fact that Dan's going to fuck it up somehow.

Imagine if you want to shoot before he sold it to that would be terrible. That'd be awful. You would take it though. I would. But it would. I would renounce it. I would renounce it. I'm here.

I'm here to say I will renounce the Super Bowl and not accept it if it's one under the Dan Snyder regime, which it won't be. That's why. What if he put together just an incredible like a winner, long-term winner right before he left and he's like, you sure I want to be figured it out. Yeah. I mean, he has changed the culture and DC to the gold standard. I don't know if you read that press release.

Yes. But yeah, with Taylor Heinecke, he's a fun quarterback that you can root for. Well also in the back of your head, understanding that like it's this isn't going anywhere like a relationship that you're in the sex is awesome, but you know that you're not putting a ring on it. So you're like, I'm just going to, I'm going to enjoy this is a summer roller coaster. This is a summer love, baby. So I'm, I'm, I'm liking Taylor Heinecke's fun to root for fun to watch.

He did too much Taylor Heinecke today. That intercepts was pretty bad to Harrison Smith, but credit to him, the touchdown pass where he had the ref just completely obliterate the Vikings defender. That's next level Taylor Heinecke. It was, it was such a hilarious Taylor Heinecke play because he went back to throw it deep and it was just like everything exploded. It was a guy's just flying everywhere, ref flying everywhere, a touchdown. It was like quadruple coverage if you include the ref, which I am.

And then he caught it and rolled into the end zone, Curtis Samuel did. That was a lot of fun to watch. Our defense is good again. Our defense is like legitimately good. So this is kind of what's been happening with Jack Dorio defenses over the last like three years later on in the season, they just get fucking awesome out of nowhere. Yeah. So I'm, I'm hopeful that the defense is going to continue to improve, but they played good

enough to win today. Kirk Cousins had a couple, a couple of doidoy plays, but he had a couple of really nice throws. I'll give them some credit on that one. And then at the end, I don't know what our special teams coach is teaching these guys, but you can't hit the center after they snap it. So we, we were robbed of Taylor Hanakie doing something either really, really stupid or really, really clever at the end of the game, trying to put together a minute and a half drive because of the personal foul that led to the second field goal attempt, which only

left Taylor like 13 seconds. And we know that that's too much time on the clock for any quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. But it was, I should have known better than to, than to bet against Kirk Cousins on daylight savings time gets an extra hour of church. He was ready to go. Only covered creators covered three and a half. They did.

Yeah. Minus 10 and a half. I bet it's minus 10 and a half. That was a wild one. I got a little over my skis. Yeah, you did. But the, um, yeah, I, the Vikings, I, their first play, their first place, like script is just the best.

I went back and I looked, they're five out of their first eight games. They've scored a touchdown on their first drive. They, every game is the same with them. They come out and they look incredible. And then their script, they, I don't know why they don't just run it back in reverse. And Kirk Cousins, if there's a little bit of pressure or guys are covered downfield, he just does the check down thing for a few quarters and they find a way to win. And I, they are a good team.

They have a four and a half, uh, game lead right now in the NFC North. They could clinch this by, I don't know, like second week in December. I, they have the one thing we will find out very quickly if we're going to get tattoos in the next two weeks, because they play at the bills and then at home against the cowboys. And it will be like, uh, angry bills team that's coming off a loss versus the, the, what we think is fraud Vikings will be a good litmus test for how, how things are going to go. Yeah.

There was a, there was one. Oh, Bill's Vikings. It's in Buffalo, in Buffalo six. I don't know if Josh, who's line is it anyway? That's the thing. I'm going to say six and a half. What is it? Eight and a half.

Eight and a half. Wow. That's a lot of points. Fucking bet on the Vikings. Shit. This is what we've been going through all year though is we've kind of like flirted with believing in Kirk Cousins, but we have to say no, we have to say no, Kirk. No, stop it.

Stop it. You're bad. That's a bad host. They're a good team. The chains were, I mean, unbelievable post game on the plane with the chains off. It's almost like they're making fun of their dorky friend. It's like, it's like putting Halloween costume on your dog when they put those necklaces on them.

They're like, oh, look at him. Isn't he cute and goofy? You know what? He looks like a thug. I'm going to say. Kirk Cousins is setting a bad example for our children listening to rap music, putting these chains on. I think he's a disgusting quarterback.

I have something that I thought that made me very scared when I saw that video. I think that I think his teammates like him, which is bad because I always just went off the assumption that his teammates didn't like him. But now I think they actually like him. And so that's a part, a piece to this puzzle that I have not handicapped. I think if you're seven or one, it doesn't matter who your quarterback is, right? I know, but I'm just like, they genuinely feels like they like him. So that actually makes me scared.

Again, this is a moment of weakness and Vikings fans are just going to trounce on it. And I get it. Like they we have, we have been a thorn in their side. And I still feel confident, but that was the first time I said to myself, huh, they kind of want to be around Kirk Cousins. I think they do like him. And also, what the hell, Kirk? Like nobody knew that you were that jacked up.

Yeah, he's got like an impact. So right. And he's got he's got guns. He's got so Iseps. Yeah, Kurt. That's like when you see Adams, Adam Sandler take his shirt off. Yeah. He's like, well, this guy, I thought you were frumpy. I thought you were funny and frumpy. Kirk Cousins now is like low key, high key jacked up.

You know, he is he's ripped. He's ripped. He should have his shirt off more often. I think that's the thing is like, I get I'm very open about my hatred for Kirk Cousins and where it comes from and where it's been and where it's going to go in the future. But I just I wish he wasn't that good looking with his shirt off. He's just running the score up on me.

I just it's the eyeball test. If you watch a Vikings game and you see when when he just gets into check down mode, you're like, this guy is never going to make a play that isn't just right there for him. Like he's never going to just scramble around and make a play or throw the ball into a really tight window. I just Vikings fan, you have a very good football team. You're seven and one.

You're four and a half games up in the NFC North. Yeah, that's all I'm going to say. No, you are good. You are. You're good. You are good. But I'm still I hope. I hope you understand. I hope the real ones out there understand.

I think a lot of them do that. I'm just there's no way that I'm doubling back on this. Yeah, I I'm driving a hundred miles an hour at this light that I see off in the distance. And you know what? It might be a tunnel or it might be a freight train coming my way as Dan Campbell told me. Yeah, I just I'm a little bit softer on it just because the Vikings in their division and you know, they're better than the Bears.

You know, the whole like, if you have a bad team, you can't people are like, oh, well, you can't talk about this other team because you have a bad team. It's such a stupid thing in division. It kind of makes sense. Do you know what I mean? Because like that's your rival you play it twice a year. So it makes a little bit more sense when I bash the Vikings and people like Bears, I'm like, fuck, because we do play each other and we are fighting for

the same spot. Yeah, one last last thing here. Think it over timeouts. Absolutely kill me. Yeah, I hate to think it over time out. They're so dumb. Ron Rivera called a think it over timeout. And at the time I was like, this is the stupidest thing ever.

Why are you calling a timeout to think about whether or not you should go forward on fourth down or if you call a timeout to think about whether or not you want to challenge a play. Yeah, that is the stupidest thing ever. If you if you are still at the point where you're you're needing an extra like minute and a half to think anything over as a head coach in the NFL, that's something that you can straighten out with like a weekend of playing Madden. Well, so while I agree, 100%, I would use them all the time

because I absolutely would panic in the moment and just be like, fuck, timeout. Let me let me get a second. Let me get a second with my guys. I would use them. I would actually only use think it over timeout. I'd use six of them a game, never in the correct like clock stoppage time. It would just be like, hey, this game's going a little too fast for me. Can I just get a second?

I need to catch my breath. I'd probably just go over and take like a sip of water and be like, OK, I'm back. I'm mentally back. What are we doing? That's why you have the chart that's that somebody prints out and hands to you. That way you can be like the chart told me to go. I would blame everything on the chart. The chart says the chart said that was a strong go for us. So, you know, we stick with what the chart tells us.

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Chiefs suck. Chiefs suck. Titans just have their number. Every regular season, they have their number. Lions 15 Packers 9. The Packers are bad. Aaron Rodgers is broken. Everyone gets injured on their team.

This is fun. Dan Campbell just wants to go home and drink a beer. Yep. After that victory, that's that's what his his leading comment was in the postgame presser. Yep, I hear you, buddy. I hear you like for Dave, for Dan Campbell to beat the Packers, which ironically, I think Dan Campbell has a winning record against the Packers. I think he's kind of been pretty good against them.

I think I think he might be three and one. He might have as a lion. Two and one. I don't know about that because how he was the he was the Lions coach last year. Did they go one and one last year? I think they might have. Packers won a lot of games last year. When he was with Miami.

No, I think Dan Campbell's got a. I don't know. They split last. So he's one and two. Or no, two and one, two and one. He does have a winning record against them. I forgot they beat him last year. Yeah, so this is this is a good thing for the Lions because for a while, they were they were obsessed with being like the best losers.

That was Dan Campbell's kind of mantra, which is like, we're going to be the toughest out. Oh, they beat him with that. They beat him when they were sad everyone week 18. We're going to we're going to be a tough out. Like we're not going to roll over for anybody. That's kind of been their mantra. And now they they're able to go out there and get a win against. I still think beating the Packers, even though they're not good right now,

I still think they have that allure of if you if you beat them, you can tell yourself that you're a good team. Dude, all I want to do is like I want to be able to lose every game except beat the Packers this year. Yeah. And it's probably going to go like they probably won't. But that's all I've been thinking about because Packers suck. And they suck and they're broken. And it's fun.

But you know what I'm saying? They still are like recently. It's Aaron Rodgers. They're still recently that good enough where if you beat them, you can be like, yo, we're pretty good. Yeah, no, it's Aaron Rodgers. And he will always be scary, especially to other teams in the NFC North. But they three interceptions, two goal line interceptions,

one where he threw the ball off of a helmet, a defenders helmet, then went and just bitched out his team. And the other, which was like, this is how desperate the Packers have gotten. They drew up a play for him to throw a touchdown pass to David Bakhtiari on fourth and one on the goal line and threw an interception there to Aidan Hutchinson. They are bad, like really bad 20 yard pass. That was 10 yards short that David Bakhtiari intercepted.

Yeah. And I think like a lot of people are, I know, our own account, part of my take memes, put out a graphic showing what Aaron Rodgers has done since he's taken ayahuasca and how he's fallen off, including appearing on this very podcast. Might have jinxed them. I think there are certain jobs that you should not want to have a lot of perspective if you're performing them. Yeah. So like he says, I like he's gained a lot of perspective

how this year it's like it's it's great to see the people that I get to go to work with. I appreciate every day. I appreciate my job. If you're an NFL quarterback, you are just like an NFL anything. You should probably not have any perspective. Yes, probably benefit for you to be like a perspective list psycho. Yeah. Where all you care about is just winning. I mean, that's it. Tom Brady. Zero percent. Brady left his. Yes.

His supermodel wife. Yes. That makes five times as much money as him because he wants to come back and play for the Tampa Bay Bucks this year. Have Scotty Miller drop touchdown. It's perspective can be a major hindrance. Yes. Sometimes in life. And I think Aaron Rodgers might have too much of it. Yes. So it's been 329 days since Aaron Rodgers

has last had a 300 yard game. That's a lot of days. A lot of days. And I I mean, they don't have any weapons. They do have everyone just getting hurt. It feels like every game they have someone getting hurt. But it was crazy to watch this game because the defense finally played up to what they've been expecting all year. And their offense just has been in like first gear for the entire season.

I three to go to Red Zone interceptions. The last time that has been done is Brett Favre in 2006, which was like late Brett Favre. I know he had a one last resurgence, but that was late Brett Favre when things were getting kind of bad. Maybe that's what's happening here. Maybe he's old. He might be old. His thumb hurts. Yeah.

Well, it's COVID thumb. COVID thumb. We don't like to do the hot take game on this podcast. We're dead. We're a very rational group of human beings here. I know that we study the stats. We watch the tape. But I think it is time that we ask the question. Could Georgia beat the Green Bay Packers? Same same G. I that's true or just stole it from they actually asked for permission.

That would be from the Packers. That would be a hell of a match up for a colorblind. Yeah, colorblind people would be very confused. Same G. I think I think that they could hold the Packers to under 30 points. Yeah, no, Aaron Rogers went to throw for 300 yards against them. I don't think so. No. And and it's just bad. This is so much fun. If the game was playing too much, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry.

If the game's playing January, I think they have a pretty good chance. Who just in general, if it's Aaron Rogers in January. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did you were saying Georgia? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. We're going to say Billy Lil Wayne had to comment. Oh, yeah. He he renounced himself, right? He said RAP to the season. We should have gotten rid of 12 before the season.

Whoa, man, that's tough. Lil Wayne out on Rogers. Whoa. I feel like that's that sounds personal to me. Is it crazy? That's him just saying that the team sucks and for out of respect for Aaron, they should have run over. Oh, you're you're spinning it that way. You're just not trying to you just love Lil Wayne. Yeah, I think Lil Wayne loves Rogers.

Does he? Yeah, he's definitely shade. He likes drinking drugs, too. That in common. Hold on. I have a question and this might be crazy. But why if Aaron Rogers is hurt and he is kind of hurt, right? Doesn't he have a thumb? Did you say he had a cold? No, he actually got two thumbs, one of which is not that great right now. OK.

He did. He did say that he has a thumb injury that's getting worse. Shouldn't they just play with Jordan Love? If the season is lost, that actually would be the smart thing to do. Would it not? Like in the Packers do usually do the smart thing. That's what drives me insane. And they have like a philosophy and they stick to it. Wouldn't that be the smart thing to do to start Jordan Love and just be like, hey, maybe we'll try next year with Aaron Rogers, but let's see what this kid is.

I think it'd probably make your wide receivers feel like at least a little bit better as human beings, yeah, because right now every player that's every wide receiver that's on that team has had to deal with a month and a half of people in the media and inside your own locker room saying, we stink, we need to go out and find somebody that can come in and elevate this receiving. Why doesn't Aaron Rogers have anybody to throw to? And if you're in that room, you're probably like, what? What am I? Am I chopped liver?

Like, am I really that bad? If you get Jordan Love in, people don't have that conversation about like, how come no one's giving Jordan Love any weapons? Right. They might they might gel a little bit better. I don't understand how the cap works in the NFL. Dead cap. I think that's just money that you can never get rid of. Right. Even if you caught them, that's just dead. That's yeah. Yeah. It's dead.

Is this number correct? I'm reading this number right now. Man, this really sucks for Packers fans. Next year in Rogers, dead cap number is ninety nine million dollars. There's no way. Yeah. Ninety nine million dollars. That's a lot of million. That's a lot of million dollars. That's too bad. That's almost a hundred million.

That's a shame. That is a shame. I don't. They're done. Are they in cap? They're done. Right. They're done. Are they already in cap hell? Do I have to worry about this? They're done. You guys need to reassure me. They're done. No, the Packers stink. OK, good. They're done. Actually stink because I've done this many, many times.

I've I've I've they could get my victory. Dance next year like they're dead. They're dead. They're dead to have them just rise from the ashes and just make me look like a fool. They just got beat by the lions. Yeah, they look like the Mike McCarthy Packers Packers that last year. And they play the Cowboys next week. I'm sure that will go well.

They they better be done. Flo Wayne says it's got to be true. OK. They better be done. They better be done. And Lions credits the Lions. Gutsy win. Jared owns the Packers. Yeah, yeah, he does. Trade TJ Hawkinson.

They they have two guys. He does two, two and one. You know, it's just the way that you say Hawkinson. Hawkinson. What is it? Well, how do you say? You say you're saying it like it's a club in Vegas. Yeah, that's Hawkinson. It's Hawkinson. Hawkinson.

Hawkinson is the club. Hawkinson. Hawkinson. Hawkinson. All right. So they trade TJ Hawkinson and he two just they bring up a guy from practice squad. They bring up two Zilstras. Two Zilstras. They had two brothers named Zilstras

and they both got elevated to play in a game thing. And one of them caught a touchdown pass. Pretty cool. That's kind of wild. Pretty cool. Also, Armin Ross, St. Brown. He passed Calvin Johnson today for the most receptions through two seasons of any Lions receiver of all time. And that includes Calvin Johnson.

That's crazy. So he's had a pretty good rookie and a half year. Yeah. And and yeah, the Lions are there. This actually was big for Dan Campbell. I think the beer comment makes sense because he needs to win one of these type of games to get the pressure off him. Because like if the Lions win four or five games, I think he's good. Yeah, that feels like the right amount.

Five games is improvement. And like I was saying, you can still spend this into being a big win if you're a bad team. If you're like the Lions, you beat the Packers. You still beat the Packers. So yeah, you can. I don't ever do it. Dan Campbell should be very happy for himself.

Jared played. I think Jared played really well today. I didn't watch that much of the game, but they beat the Packers. Oh, I watched it. It was fun. So here's Jared. So Jared. The Packers fucking moaning and bitching and screaming and yelling. And I just want to remind everyone a quote before we go to the next game.

Aaron Rodgers did say guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't be playing. So they're Jordan Love should be playing them. He had. Wait. Are you saying that three intercept three interceptions? Those are mistakes. Red zone interceptions, two of them were basically goal line interceptions. So the second, the second

interception that he had, I'm like Aaron Rodgers is throwing this game. Yeah, he felt like it. He looked like he was throwing this game. Guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't be playing. That's his quote, not mine. That's his quote. Just saying. OK, next up.

Dolphins 35 bears 32 shootout. Jake and I, Jake, I don't know if you want to start with your dolphins. They're they're good. Two is good. Yeah, I mean, this offense keeps not surprising us, but keeps showing out every single week. It's crazy. Undefeated with two. Like I mentioned, I called them going like potential 11 and O

because I was looking at the soft, softer schedule and then he got hurt. Like if you get hurt, you're looking at eight and one right now. Maybe you're seven and two when they're six and three right now. And at full strength, it's the most important position in sports. Facts. All facts. Undefeated. He's undefeated. As it when he when he starts and finishes a game, they have not lost. Yeah. And he also we don't do nerd stats.

But I was told that Tua in the stat expected points added, which sounds like a pretty good stat. He is number one in Cubies this year to his Mahomes. Three is Hertz. So that I mean, that proves it to one of the Browns. I like it when you Texans at home with a bye week. Like you're ideally looking at eight and three. Whoa. Wow.

And during December, I like how any time there's a good stat out there that I learn about, like was that EPA expected points added. So as soon as I learned that stat, they're going to drop EPA plus on me. Right. And then I'm not going to know what the fuck's going on. Yeah. And I that's one of those ones I don't. I don't want to know what goes into it. I just trust it. Yeah. EPA sounds good. It sounds very good. And then to his number one, as for the Bears,

another pretty much perfect game in terms of Justin Fields was incredible. He broke the regular season record for rushing yards by a quarterback. One hundred and seventy eight. That run he made the 62 yard touchdown run where he he had like three dolphins around him and he pumped faked and then just fucking hit the burners. I'm I'm still I'm still in just like he's the guy. He is the guy he's making throws.

I was a part of my take guy off. It was. And what do you think about Justin Fields? He was awesome. He was pretty awesome. Yeah. I don't know how to feel like it's upside down world. I'm I'm conditioned to always be dreading the offense and wanting the defense to be on the field because the Bears always have a defense and no offense. I am now in a point where it's like when because they're not going to try to win this year and they're not trying to win.

They just traded their two best defensive players. When they're on defense, I'm just like, can we just get this over with? Like, let them score a touchdown. I want to see Justin Fields again. Yeah. The only thing I'd be concerned about for Justin Fields future and he looked awesome day when he runs with the ball, he does look electric. And he he actually doesn't look like any other quarterback in the NFL because he's got he's got great speed, but he's a big dude. He's thick. He's a really big guy.

And so it's built. It's tough to tackle him just like straight up, even if you do get a hand on him. The only thing I'd be concerned about is why it took the Bears so long to do this type of offense with him. Well, the first first answers, Matt Nagy. Yeah, OK, I get that because like a month, a month and a half, probably resentful of the fact that they drafted him in the first place. Correct. And so he didn't want to implement that offense with him,

which is really weird. And then with Eberfluss. Yeah. Why? Well, Luke Getze is the new offensive coordinator. He came from the Packers. There was a while there where I was like, he's a secret agent, but that's not no longer the case. I think he would just didn't. I think he just did a bad job to start the season.

And he didn't like anyone that's watched Justin Fields going back to his time in college knows like you have to let him move around a little. But we see it all the time in the pros where guys, coaches, coaching staffs try to fit their quarterbacks to their system instead of the other way around. And they finally were like, fuck it, let's let's use his strengths. He's ran 16 out of 20 third down conversions when he's run on a third down to try to get the first down.

He's converted 16 out of 20. I think he had 11 first downs today on his with his feet, which broke the record. He and he's making throws, too, because when you can run, the throws become easier because everyone's scared you're going to run. Yeah. So it's all like, I don't know how to feel. I he is everything I've ever wanted. So the way that he's played right now, it's it's weird.

I said this to you during the game. It's weird seeing a quarterback that is that exciting playing in a Bears uniform. Yes, it almost doesn't make sense. None of it makes sense because he's he's electric. He's running with the ball. He's having fun. The offense he did smile today, which is nice to see. Because like before, I was like,

this is torture for this guy playing in an offense that doesn't suit a skill set whatsoever, but watching him have fun and run through and around defenders. It was I was my brain was breaking. I was like, there's no way that this is a Bears quarterback. And I'd like the people that that like to torture you, big cat, with the stats. Oh, yeah, there are a lot of quarterback stats, people that like to be like, let's compare this against the last 10 quarterbacks from the Bears or whatever. Keep that same energy.

Yeah, when the Bears quarterback just did something that Michael Vick never did. I'm also at the point now, because I'm obviously watching every Bears game. If when people come at me with like, oh, he only threw like 150, 40 yards in a loss. I'm just like, you don't even watch the game. Yeah, like you're not watching the game. So it doesn't it doesn't matter to me. Like you can you can say all the stats you want. If you're not, if you haven't watched the game and you haven't watched

what Justin Fields has done in the last month, month plus, then I don't. You're your your opinions are relevant because when I'm watching. I'm literally like on I am on cloud nine. I'm on cloud nine. I'm like, I'm excited for Bears games. I was like, I woke up this morning excited to watch Justin Fields. The defense is trash, but it was terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. That's it was a joke.

Watching them try to like tackle these guys and keep up with waddle and tire kill. But I don't care. It's even better that they're bad because that means that you get more time watching Justin Fields get on the field right to play off the block punt. The block punt decided the game like Justin Fields is so good today. They almost beat the dolphins. The block punt was the was the deciding factor. He actually and he made a throw in that last drive to Equimonious Saint Brown.

I probably butchered his name too in his hands, dropped it. It's like he's doing everything I want and we're losing games, which is good because draft picks and the thing that people always forget about like losing games, easier schedule next year. And this is a but this is a productive loss. Yeah, you lost to the dolphins and you you could definitely tell yourself we played good enough to beat the dolphins. Yeah, we definitely and most times when your name is mentioned in a sentence

with Mark with Mike, Vic, you're doing something really, really good. And the fact that I was actually shocked at Vic had never had that many rushing the Vikings game he had where he had the walkoff touchdown was like one 60, I want to say. And then I think Kaepernick beat it in a game against the game against the Packers in the in the playoffs season. Yeah, that game was awesome. That game was also orgasmic.

Billy, what were you going to say? Also, Tyree kill already having a thousand. Oh, insane. He is so good. His flip to I know it's stupid to be like impressed by a flip, but just his movement is just so effortless. And he's just he's such a freak. He's a freak. He's an absolute freak.

It's like when you saw Bo Jackson climb up the outfield wall like it was nothing. Yeah, that's what it's like. Tyree kill catches a touchdown pass and he does a backflip and his feet get 17 feet up in the air. It's crazy. It's insane. I think Tyree kill could probably if he if he spent like two years training for the Decathlon, probably take home a gold medal. Yeah, he's probably the best athlete in the world.

He really is insane. We're going to say Billy, do you think that the usage of Justin Fields is gimmicky or sustained? Oh, here we go. Here come the haters. I like this one. Trolls. Chris just takes that to Trolls. No, that's a big time.

But the way the way he runs is not like Lamar Jackson. It's not as elusive. And in the end, I mean, he was pretty fucking elusive today. Did you watch the game? He I saw I prepped for this. I saw highlights. OK, so you didn't watch the game isn't as elusive as Lamar Jackson. He takes more impacts.

He's a larger body. He didn't take that many hits today. He's going to take more. OK, again, you didn't watch. I know, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just asking in plus the way they're using him. Do you think that it's going to be something that's going to be game planned for and something we'll see?

Well, yeah. And then you have to game plan against it. And you have to game plan off it. The so I'm happy brought up because you are one of the trolls I'm talking about who isn't watching the games because he he he was he went out of bounds a lot. He slides well. He also was very elusive when he was just running past people and

they don't have anyone like he doesn't have great talent around him. Chase Claypool is nice. Darno Mooney I think is is good. I was probably too mean on him when I was saying that he wouldn't be. You know, he'd be the three on a lot of other teams. He's actually, you know, playing well. They have good running backs. They still need a full overhaul pretty much of the offensive line.

So yeah, they're going to they're going to evolve like they don't have talent. I'm just asking the question. You're right. You're yeah. Billy is the is is a one for the question. No, you have to ask. Yeah. Yeah, you're you have an opinion on him or no silence, Billy. I'm not. I'm not silencing him for your speech. I'm not silencing him.

But you have an opinion. He's a brick house and he's making plays and he's making offense. And it's hard to create offense in the NFL. It's I have no idea. Well, I don't even hate Zach Wilson. You've made this. I did not know I just think I like I like I'm not. This is impersonal. I'm just raising that because that's a question you were thinking about. Yeah, I do think you're thinking about it is valid to say that anytime

you have a running quarterback, yeah, then it raises the likelihood of injury. But I don't think that there's anything inherent about Justin Fields' game in particular that makes it any more dangerous than say Josh Allen running with football. Right. And so we were saying Josh Allen in the beginning of the season. He's running too hard. I would I would still absolutely take Josh Allen 100 times out of 10. You know, like, yes, it is.

It is something that you have to think about. But if it's a big dude running at people, chances are more often than not, they'll be the ones to get him really hurt is not being is is having guys not get open and standing in the pocket and getting smoke. True. Right. Kyle Shanahan would hurt just as easily doing that. You could just wake up and and death and die. Right. But I mean him Terry Bradshaw, he's moving after like the way he moves. I'm no, I'm not. I'm not worried.

I know this will be something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life. He'll win like five Super Bowls and I'll be the happiest person in the world. And the billies of the world will be like, well, it's not sustainable. Look, I wasn't. That's fine. That's why I wasn't hating. I know that's fine. I mean, we've seen like Cam Newton had amazing stretch. Want an MVP. He went to Super Bowl. Amazing stretches. But down the street, you saw it wasn't sustainable.

You're right. Yeah. After I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you are right. That Justin Fields, eventually it will probably catch up with him at some point in his 30s that he won't be able to do. He threw touchdown passes today. Three. Yeah. It was three. It was great. Three of them. It was great to see who's electric. But do you think that they're going to probably move away from that when they start to get more of a structure around them?

Yes, I think they're going. I think this is more to get every like his his floor has been risen because they've been using his legs. I think once he has some really good talent around him, they can start doing a lot more passing and rely less on his legs and not have to game plan like these designed runs, which actually I love because it keeps everyone off balance. Like the defense, the Dolphins defense was off balance all day.

So I'm not worried. Don't try to yuck my yuck. I'm not. I'm not yucking. I was asking you a question. You're yucking my. You're a question. He watched. He watched a couple of highlights. I think it was a valid question. I also think that it got dunked on pretty sufficiently. I was a question. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. And that needs to be answered. And I gave you an answer with the Josh Allen take, which is like you can look at Justin Fields and Josh Allen. They're built kind of similar, both big guys. They both inflict a good amount of punishment. Yes, there's going to be a risk involved any time you have a running quarterback. But a lot of times it's definitely worth the reward. And if he knows how to slide, like I actually think I changed my opinion

about this with Lamar, because I used to think like, oh, Lamar's not going to be sustainable, but Lamar does a great job of not ever taking big, big hits. And Justin Fields is tough, motherfucker. He's taking big hits and he's, I mean, it's football. Everyone's going to get injured eventually. Do you remember when he broke his ribs in that game against Clemson? Yeah. He's a tough guy. Not that good. Yeah.

He's trying to run more. Pocket is a scary place. Well, pocket is a scary place. He's knee running. Oh, OK. Run less. Well, run less backwards, but more forward. Here's the thing. I also don't hurt yourself when you're running. I know our guys were drafted in the same class.

I have no reason to hate the Jets. I don't hate the Jets. I don't want to become a Justin Fields versus Zach Wilson thing because I don't want you to lose this badly. I look, I'm just posing questions. Well, I have to make him better. We're just discussing it. Right. Anybody that's putting the honest eyeball test on those two quarterbacks would be like, you're insane for thinking that right now,

Zach Wilson looks like a better few in the last. I know it's been recent tape now. I would say this is perfect time. I listen to the tape. I listen to the tape. And I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If you join me, no, no, we have it. Let's listen to the play the whole tape. It was better than Zach Wilson's first start.

Yes, Billy, actually, I'm glad that you brought up Zach Wilson. Would you give up Zach Wilson right now for Sam Elger? How deep into this take are you? I'm deep into both these takes really, really deep. You can only be deep in one. It's like holes. Well, I'm just saying it as a guy who doesn't throw in receptions. No, I'm talking holes, which who's what you're inside of. I mean, both holes.

You can't do very deep. And if I want to make a tunnel between the two of the holes and make a tunnel system, pick one hole. OK, then Sam Elger would probably go to that is now what I was saying. Whoa, that's not. No, that's a big thing. You said, oh, my God. I'm going back to you back to me.

I'm going to take it back. You have five seconds to get back to me. No, I'm not taking it back. Two, one, and it's permanent. It's permanent, not the guy. Zach Wilson. You want to say about Zach Wilson? Well, the whole thing, shut up. Make it permanent. I just said, I just said, I'm the guy who doesn't throw in receptions.

That's the kind of guy you want as your quarterback. Yeah, you're making it worse right now. You're just talking about. No, I'm saying I just want a guy with no interceptions. That's what I said. The only thing I said. No, no, in that moment, you were referencing that. No, I said, I just want a guy with no interceptions. I just want a guy with no interceptions.

That's why I said, if Sam Elinger was on the Jets, I could both root for Sam Elinger and the Jets at the same time. But that's what I was saying. Billy, you know that in that moment, you were referring to Sam Elinger being the guy that didn't throw in receptions. When people are just yelling at you and backing you into a corner, it's hard to get your real point across. I said, I wanted a guy with no interceptions.

That's what I said. And you can hear it on the tape. OK, I heard what I heard. I think Billy is gaslighting us a little bit. I heard it, too. You're Zach lighting us. Yeah, you guys. I've been Zach Lit.

I heard it, too. And I gave you the chance to take it back. No, you guys just yelled at me. That's the worst part. I couldn't get my point apart. I said, I got with no interceptions. That's all you want. That's tough. OK, well, why don't we bring up Sam Elinger?

Yeah, yeah, Patriots 26, Colts 3. Who are let's see where we're going to start. OK, I'll just read off some stats. Sam Elinger had 43 net yards. He had 103 passing yards, nine sacks for minus 60 yards. The Colts were 0 and 14 on third downs. The Colts loan scoring drive today was eight plays. Eighteen yards, 40 yard field goal.

They ran 60 plays for 121 yards total. It was a debacle, a total debacle, a total, total debacle. It was bad Colts over 13 on third down over 14 over 14. It was a good stat padding game for Judon. You got to have one of those. He's 11 and a half sacks right now. Yeah, credit to Sam Elinger, though. I want to say something very nice about Sam Elger,

because after the game, he said everybody is going to look at those nine sacks and say it's on the offensive line, but it's not. It's on everyone, including me. So credit Sam Elger for saying very, very clearly. Everyone's going to look at the nine sacks and say it's on the offensive line. Everyone's going to say it, but it's not. It's on everyone, including me.

Wow. So that's I thought that was big of a bill. I thought I was huge taking that type of leadership. And as a Colts fan myself, too, I got to say, that's the kind of guy that we can build around. Yep. But we got to fire Frank Reich. Yeah. Get him out the door. Yeah. If you watch the game, we did. Oh, we watched the whole game.

I watched the whole game. Yeah, we did. Sam Elger got fed to the wolves. Yeah. In a rainy Foxboro day. It was not it was rainy. It was raining. There was rain. There was some mass cold and rain. It was a messy day.

The same weather system that made East Rutherford rainy also made Foxboro rainy. I think we're overstating the amount of rain that was there. It was a drizzle. It was a weird drizzle. Drizzles are tough. Yeah. You got to play quarterback in drizzles. Well, I'm just saying Sam Elger got fed to the wolves in his first game.

No one wants to drizzle. These wolves, it feels like you're being spat on a little bit. There were a bunch of moist wolves running around out there that just tore him limb from limb to this. In his first game against Bill Belichick, you can't really judge any rookie quarterback. I think we can say that from every single. Second year. But yeah, yeah.

Well, first year start. Oh, you played last week again. He played last week. It was his first year. First year. Starting. I do agree with that that like Belichick against young quarterbacks.

He's he's a wolf and he had nothing. Now, now, though, if it had gone reversed and Sam Elger had thrown three touchdowns, what would what would the response have been? We would have been like he's the best ever. I don't think any rookie quarterback has thrown for that much against the modern Belichick Patriots.

I think I don't think that's definitely up there. But I don't think anyone's had it tied with three. Or Josh Allen's done against Josh Allen through three interceptions against him. OK. And I know he's had struggles against him. But Justin Fields had a pretty good game against him in his first year. Well, they were in the same draft class,

Sam Elger and Justin Fields. I know, but this is Justin Fields' second year. You're also Sam Elger's second. OK. Yeah. I just want to double check first. You're starting your first year starting. Right. So he's working. All right. Let's talk about this game.

But you went to the Jets one, so. Right. There you go. OK. But we're not really concerned. We're talking about the coach right now. We're talking about your guy. Yeah. Frank Reich needs to be fired. It's crazy that he fired the OC. They traded a running back.

He then benched Matt Ryan. So he basically was like, everyone else is the problem, except me. And then he comes out and puts out this type of offensive output. Like this is, it was a last stand. And the last stand was a complete dud. And I don't know.

Jim Marce has to, like, I know he doesn't like to fire guys. He's probably crying right now, thinking about it. But that was one of the worst, like, games, offensive games, like, everything. And the Patriots weren't even, the Patriots didn't play that great. Like, their offense wasn't that great. And what, their offense wasn't that great.

No, it wasn't. The game was close. Right. Like, it wasn't like the Patriots were playing like their A-level game and they just beat the fuck out of the Colts. The Patriots were playing like a C-level game and they beat the fuck out of the Colts,

telling you how bad the Colts played. Yeah, the Colts were very, very bad today. And I don't, they were missing Jonathan Taylor, which is a pretty, that's like 90% of their offense. Yeah. When things go well. That's, they, they want to feed him. Injuries happen, but there's no way

that Frank Reich is going to stick around as a coach. He is. I like what Jim Marce is doing, though. He's rebranding into being the guy that just goes after Snyder full-time. Because everybody's like, great job, sir, great job. Thank you for speaking out for the voiceless. But he's also kind of neglecting what's

going on in his own backyard right now, which is, and it pains me to say as a Colts fan, but I mean, Frank Reich needs to be gone last week. And you know, and you know, like we always talk about the signs that people should look for. The owner saying, I have full confidence in the coach, the coach firing the offensive coordinator, coach, you know, maybe making the play calls himself.

Frank Reich did the final one today. He said, in the post-game press conference, I know this doesn't carry weight out there, but you're never as far off as you think. You're pretty far off. You're pretty far off, dude. We're so close, guys. You're pretty far.

Guys, we're so close. It's just we get a couple of bounces here and there. He's doing the one play and everything could be different. And I don't think that's the case right now. I think, actually, they did Matt Ryan a favor. Like Matt Ryan not having to be part of this is actually very nice for his own legacy. I think we have to look at this and say nine sacks.

If it was Matt Ryan, it would probably be, what, 14, 15 sacks today? It would have been dead. Yeah, Matt Ryan would be dead. Frank Reich saved Matt Ryan's life today. Yes, he did. Which is hero. That's more important than any final score could ever be.

Hank, how are you feeling? You weren't that pumped? No. No. It was a gross game. It was a three-in-out fest. Offense didn't look good. Playing against basically a college quarterback.

So I don't really think that counts. And then when you look at the division, it's like the Jets are legit. The Dolphins are legit. The Bills are legit. It's just a weird, I mean, we've had this ongoing conversation of just dealing with being mid. But it's, we won, but.

Yeah, at what cost? Not even at what cost. It's just how excited can you get about beating Sam Elinger? Here's something to be excited about. Nick Folk has not. Matthew Judon's beast. He is.

I got pretty excited last week. It's OK. Yeah, I mean. It's OK to be a different. What does that mean? Yeah. Different franchise. Yeah, well, I think in that case,

allow me to explain something to you. Here's what you should do is just rebrand into being like the AFC beast, best division. Oh, I did that. OK, good. Yeah, you're well on my way. I'm well on my way. No, it is true that they are.

It is the best division in football. Hank is going from the top to the middle, and we're clawing from the bottom to try to even, worse, like the middle would be great. Yeah. If I was, if the Bears were the middle, I'd be like, this is awesome. Eight and nine.

Yeah. Nine and eight. Oh, we're the spoilers. We were basically playing spoiler for the rest of the year. So no playoffs. No, we can make the playoffs, but it would be, you know, it'd be surprising. Yeah.

If we made the playoffs over the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills at this point, it'd be a shock. Maybe the whole AFC beast does it. Is that possible? That'd be fun. Yeah. I don't think that's possible. Yeah, with seven teams, now it is.

It's possible. Yeah. That'd be really cool. Did I just lighten your mood? Yeah, I like that. Yeah. When do we get the first playoff machine? I need to know.

We need a playoff machine week 10. We really do. Playoff machine rocks. Nick Folk has nine field goals in the last two games. That's got to count for something. It's awesome. He's a guy. That's a lot of field goals.

That's a shit load of field goals. It is. That's bad. Like, I don't, that's bad. Three points, three points. Pretty good. Yeah. I mean, you can beat teams like the Colts with field goals.

Yeah, in this game, I think was was five straight three and outs. Maybe the Colts got one, like first down off a flag. It was just gross. It's rare that you can say up winner. But I had the under because both in the our Friday picks and then I bet it and I was just like saw maybe five minutes. I was like, yep, that's a winner.

They could play forever and this is not going over because it was that bad and it looked that bad the whole time. But five and four. Yeah, five and four. Bye week jets. Bye week jets. The jets, that feels like, whoo. That's a big one.

I'm excited. That's a big one. Revenge game. Yeah. With a timid Zach Wilson. No, I think you're saying revenge game because they just beat up your quarterback Sam Elger. Revenge for double revenge game.

I think that if Zach Wilson like defends your honor by beating the Patriots to reclaim Zach Sam Elger's name. Yeah. I think I might grant you a one week reprieve to switch back. Yeah. I never. You could do the takebacks. But you have to admit that you switched off.

I never switched off. That's the only way. OK, then I won't allow the take back. The Colts have to play the Raiders and then the Eagles. I mean, the Raiders are so bad, so maybe they'll win. But this is, they have to fire everyone. This was a perfect game actually for Mack Jones to get back out there, get a win.

Probably didn't get booed by the home crowd, right? No, I don't think so. Yeah. Who gets fired first? There's actually three guys that can get fired at this point. I agree. It's Josh Retagials, Cliff Kingsbury, and Frank Wright. No way do all three of those guys make it to the end of the season, right?

There's no chance. I would say Josh Retagials is probably the most likely, because it's his first year. First year to make it to the end of the season. Yes. Yes. I think Cliff, we're looking at a possible Cliff firing first. I think Cliff might get fired at.

When is there bi-week? Because I just think that Ursa is going to, he's going to hold off on firing. And you're right. Frank Wright might be able to talk him into keeping his job, depending, again, on what Bob Dylan's song, Jim Ursa, has listened to most recently. Yep.

He can be talked into doing just about anything. So I think that it's unlikely that Reich will get fired mid-season. He might, but I think it's less likely that Cliff will. I think Cliff, if Cliff loses to the Rams 49ers and Chargers before the bi-week, I think he's going to get fired. You know, it'll be very funny though, if Cliff got fired from the Colts, or excuse me, Cliff got fired from the Cardinals,

and then got hired to be a head coach at a better franchise. Yeah. Like continued to fail off at this point. Yes. Yes. They're like, Cliff. He gets fired from the Cardinals. Belichick retires at the end of the season,

and the Patriots hire Cliff Kingsborough. Yes. That would be the ultimate Cliff Kingsborough move. Yes. And he's coming home, as that picture they love to show, of him backing up Tom Brady. Yes. OK.

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The double fumble. This game was crazy because it felt like the Falcons were kind of in control and the Chargers were down to, they were missing Kenan Allen and Mike Williams. So Joshua Palmer was their wide receiver one who had a great game. And it looked like the Chargers were about to win. Austin Eckler fumbles. Taekwon Graham picks it up, starts running, and just dropped it.

Just dropped the ball. Chargers recover. 45 seconds left. They get a first down. They win with a field goal. I don't really know what to make of this game, other than the Chargers are really beat up and they won like, you could make the argument,

hey, that's a gutsy win for the Chargers because they don't, they have so many injuries. They went in there, they won, and the Falcons have to be kicking themselves because that's a game they should have won. And that's before the double fumble. I think what you just said, the last like 30 seconds perfectly encapsulates the last, I don't know, like 10 years of being both a Chargers and a Falcons fan. When I saw these two in the schedule that they were going to play each other,

I was like, dear God, somebody's going to get their heart broken. That might have been the shortest spike in win probability of all time for the Falcons on that fumble recovery. I don't think that anything could encapsulate both those franchises more perfectly than that one play. Yep, the Chargers driving to win the game, heartbreaking boneheaded mistake to give the game away. The Falcons are somehow going to end up with a chance to win this game,

or at the very least take it to overtime. And then through absolutely no action by the other team, completely self-inflicted, do something terrible to give it right back and have them figure out a new way to lose. It's perfect Chargers Falcons theater. It really was. Now, I think that the Chargers are still a good team. I think that if they can get healthy, I'll say it like that.

Yeah, which is also every Chargers season. If the Chargers can get healthy, then I think that they could win a playoff game. But it's the Chargers, they're probably not going to get healthy, so they're probably not going to win a playoff game. I'd agree with that. The Chargers, something about them, I think it's because we've been force-fed the narrative that like

Justin Herbert is next up and he's a very good quarterback. I'm always looking at them being like, they should be better. And they're like, well, they have this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy injured. It's like, okay, well, they're ever going to get healthy. So maybe this is the season where everyone got their injuries out of the way and then they get to the playoffs and everyone's healthy and they're the best team. That'd be great.

They might peak at the right time. Yeah. By the way, Mahomes just made an incredible run. He, Titans are playing an incredible game. We'll recap all of it at the end, but just put a note in that touchdown run that Mahomes just had. So the Falcons, not only the blip in win probability, are we a little worried that this was also their blip in winning the NFC South? Because there was a moment there where they had the lead going in today.

Both these games were replaying at the same time. I know that they weren't, so the Falcons obviously played first and the Bucks played in the afternoon, but there was a moment where it was very, like it felt like the Bucks were definitely going to lose and it felt like the moment where the Falcons were going to win and they could have had a two game lead in the NFC South for those of us. And now the Bucks are back with, they're in first in the NFC South because of the tiebreaker. Saints win Monday.

They'll be in, they'll be tied up at first as well. It seems like this was the moment the Falcons had and the Bucks as bad as they been to be like, oh, we're in first place at four and five. They have to be just be like, holy shit, how is this possible? Yeah, it's good for the Bucks that they're there. And the concern I have as somebody that does have a future on the Falcons win that division is we looked ahead at their schedule and well, me personally, I was like, they've got a pretty easy schedule.

Right. Their schedule might be hardening in front of our very eyes. It's getting harder. So they're playing the Panthers, the Commies, the Bears and the Steelers in their next four. It sounds pretty relatively easy, but it's still pretty easy. But the Panthers aren't as bad as we thought they were. They looked like dog shit today, but they look terrible.

I think the Panthers might be as bad. I think they just had those. This happens in the NFL where a team will have one or two games where they'll blip up and be like, oh, they're frisky. And I'm, I am definitely guilty of this because I think I said the Panthers were frisky and fun. And then you just once you get a couple more games down the line and the losses start to rack up. And then it's like, you know, December and your team sucks and it's hard to get up for every game.

It might not, they might not be as frisky as I thought. They might, but I think it's week to week too. Like if they showed up, if those Panthers showed up again. What a Thursday night game we've got. Incredible. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to actually record early. Yes.

We're going to record early again with the with the Falcons in the Panthers play on Thursday night football on Amazon. Not that easy of an out. Yeah. They could beat the Falcons. I could see that happening. Bears. Bears could definitely beat the Falcons.

The definition of a frisky team, although their defense is so bad, I think they'll lose to anyone who can put up a fight. And then the Steelers, I think are going to have, they might have TJ Watt back by then, right? That's true. And then they, they never win without TJ. But when TJ is back, for some reason, they always win. They always win.

It is a different team. That's like saying Mike Tomlin's never had a team with a losing record. They're like, TJ Watt's been on some, some okay to above average teams. Yeah. But he is, he is the kind of guy that could make a difference. So you're agreeing that this might have been the moment and the moment might have I don't necessarily think that because I think that the Bucks are legitimately bad. Yeah.

I'm not buying. They had one good drive at the end of this game. Yeah. No, that's true. We're going to get to it. And they did that. That is absolutely true. I think the Bucks are bad bad.

Yeah. But the Chargers feeling like they, they got a little reprieve. Like I said, I think they were off the buy that just the double fumble was so perfect. I that the fact that that happened and also Austin Echler scored, maybe the coolest touchdown that didn't count when he was able to keep his body up. That touchdown was so awesome and they ruled them down with his elbow. That, that touchdown ruled. So it was a fun game.

I felt like I was watching the whole thing and being like, there should be more points. They just weren't. And now who knows the Chargers. I'm going to keep thinking like, oh, they might be, I, I feel like they're just going to be destined to be the same Chargers where it's like, they're going to finish one game out of the, out of the playoffs and everyone's going to be like, man, if they had just made the playoffs, would have been tough.

Yep. Would have been a tough team. And then next year, next year, they're going to be the team. Money's on the Chargers. Everyone's healthy until like their first day of OTAs and someone gets hurt and like, okay, well now, like someone, someone takes a step off, uh, like off like literally out of the truck that they drove in on. And it's like, oh, yeah, our starting quarterback is now hurt.

All right. Next up, Bengals Panthers. This was just a complete wamping, Joe Mixon show, five touchdowns at halftime. He had 15, uh, uh, carries for 113 yards, three touchdowns, four catches for 58 yards in a touchdown. So he had four touchdowns and a halftime. He finished with 211 yards and five touchdowns. Also the Bengals in the first half had more points than the Panthers had yards 35 to 32.

Yes. That's tough. We, we might be seeing the return of Baker Mayfield though. Yeah. Because they put him in the second of the PJ Walker experiment might be over. Yep. It was a tough go. It was so fun.

I fucking, I love PJ Walker. I hope he plays in the NFL forever because he is fun as a spot starter and, and the Bengals again, just if, if you want the surest bet in the world, it's bet the Browns against the Bengals and then bet the Bengals the next week. Oh, we should have, we should have mentioned totally forgot the streak lives on the teams that play the Panthers lose the next week. Okay. Cause the Falcons lost.

So now the, now teams that played the Panthers are 0 and 8 in the game after. So now the Bengals next week are playing the Steelers at the Steelers. Oh man. TJ Watts, I might have. Oh, well, it's no, it's two weeks. Okay. So the bye week. We have the bye week and then wait.

No, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. The bye week and then at the Steelers on the 20th, Sunday night football, but it worked for the bye week when the, when the four, four or sorry, the Rams did it. So I, I mean, we might have to do it just out of, out of a weird stat bet. It might be just our weird stat bet of the year. It might be like, no, don't even look at, don't even look at advanced numbers.

Don't even think about matchups. Just be like, Oh, the Bengals last played the Panthers. They're going to lose the next. Just follow the trend. Yeah. It's not, I mean, sometimes the best bets are just completely bullshit made out of all of the best bets. Yeah.

Yeah. This is Joe Nixon's career game. Yeah. Signature game for Joe. He is. And if this were, if there were a Heisman race, then this game, this is like when you have a guy that puts up like six touchdowns against a division one, double A team.

Did you see SMU versus Houston last night? I did. I did watch Tanner Mordecai for SMU had nine touchdowns. Yeah. That's as high as nine touchdowns. That's what Joe Nixon did today. 22 carries, 153 yards. And it must have felt so cool going into the end zone and getting to do the one, two,

three, four, five. That's the coolest thing you can do. At what point do you stop counting? I think I'm sorry. At what point do you start counting? Because I think you start at three. Three, you can't do two. Two, I don't think you do.

Two is like you should get two. Two is like you're, if you're celebrating two, you'll never get two. Right. And you'll, yeah. And you'll definitely won't get three. Yeah. You should expect if you, if you're a two guy, like Travis Kelsey should not be celebrating two. Yeah.

So, but doing five, that's got to be the coolest feeling ever. It's going to just count all of those and be like, look, I got five, five of them. Yeah. This was an absolute wamping. Also another great call by us. We've been on a mini hot streak of picking games on the TVs and we didn't put this one on the TV and it was over so fast. First quarter.

First quarter over. Just completely done. So credit to the Bengals. They're back. Yeah. I mean, again, Thursday night football, Bengals Panthers. No, Panthers Falcons. Sorry.

Panthers Falcons, Thursday night football. It's, if you must do an activity on Thursday night this entire season, I feel like this is probably the one. Right. Yeah. If you, if you have any brownie points you need to accumulate any recitals you have to go to. This is, yeah, this is like, oh, yeah, let's, let's go out to dinner tonight. I thought Thursday night football is on.

Nah, you know what, I'll skip it this week. I love you so much, babe, that I don't want to watch football. Yeah, actually, yeah, it's chiefs bills. They're playing again, but I don't want to watch it. It's fine. We don't have to watch this one. That's the way to do it. By the way, just a note on the after Panthers game stat.

We actually will have, excuse me, before Bengals Steelers play Monday night football, the Bears play the Falcons on that Sunday. So we'll know. So if the Bears beat the Falcons, then you have to hammer the Steelers versus the Bengals. Yep. And that was betting advice given to you by PMT. That's the soundest betting advice you can get. All right.

Next up, Jaguars Raiders. The Raiders. This was a mean stat and also a meaner picture because Josh Rictaniel says, maybe put on a little bit of weight. It happens when you live in Vegas, the buffets, everything to win. Going to Hawkinson, TJ Hawkinson, yeah, like just living it up. The Raiders in their franchise history from 1960 to 2021, they have blown five 17 point leads in the first eight games this year.

They've blown three 17 point leads. Josh McDaniels, he could have just kept on coaching forever as an offensive coordinator at the Patriots. He never would have been ready to be a head coach. And we all thought enough time had passed since the Tebow Broncos. And this is the rare, the Raiders would have been better off if they had just hired Rich Basaccia and the Patriots would have been way better off if they had just somehow kept Josh McDaniels.

Yeah. So Josh McDaniels right now means that Josh McDaniels has the worst record among all active head coaches. Pretty bad. That and Dan Campbell went three and 13 last year. And if you were to subtract those six games that they got off to the hot start when, as his former team said, we were cheating, that's why we won when we were on the Broncos. His record is now, I believe, seven and 23 in non-cheating games. So 13 and 23 overall.

And the 17 point come from behind victory for the Jaguars. If it's not so bad looking at on the on the Raiders side, where you see that, oh, it's been done three times this year compared to the rest of their history. On the other side, from the other perspective, the Jaguars are one and 116 when falling behind by 17 points. So it's a reverse bad. It's a reverse bad stat as well. Holy shit.

So it's pretty, you picked the one team that you couldn't do this to. And you did it to them. And you did it hard. So also, this is a weird stat. The Raiders hadn't allowed a hundred yard rusher or receiver until today, despite how bad they were. And Travis ATN barely got it. That is a weird stat.

They've just been allowing like three 90 yard receivers. Everyone gets it. But they've been able to they take away your your best option. Yeah. And they limit that person to 99 yards. I actually think that when they played against the Saints, I feel like Kamara had like 97 yards rushing and like 96 yards receiving in that game. So it doesn't really mean that much, but also Trevor Lawrence recorded his third game

with a completion percentage of 80 plus percent tying Mark Brunel and David Girard for the most in the history of the franchise. Oh, I have another one. I have another franchise record. Okay, I've got very fun for the Jaguars. I've got one too. Yeah. Doug Peterson today with his third win, he's three and six with the Jaguars.

He is now in sole possession as the fifth winning his head coach in Jaguars history. Yeah. He passed Urban Meyer today. He passed Urban Meyer, Mel Tucker and Mike Malarkey, who all have two wins. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's incredible. That's pretty cool. Great job, Doug.

He's fifth all time with three wins. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence did play well today. Like this is we have to just keep reminding ourselves not to overreact, even though I'm overreacting to everything Justin Fields does, hand up. But Trevor Lawrence played well today. So credit to him. Beat the Raiders.

And Travis at the end is awesome. Like they, it's so stupid. It's actually very similar to like why didn't the Bears just run the offense that works for Justin Fields. The fact that the Jaguars had to trade away James Robinson to realize, oh, this guy we spent a first round draft pick on. Turns out he's electric. Maybe we should run him more.

I think it's because he still had that stink of urban on him. Yeah. We're like the new committee comes in and they're like, I don't know if we should really be giving this ball. This guy, this guy was scouted by Urban Meyer and he's stunk out loud. Yeah. So like how much do we trust him? He's awesome.

And I saw, I saw the duck foot on ATN today. Did you see that? Yeah. He had a couple of really long runs where his feet, which they point out at about 45 degree angles. It's crazy. Watch his feet when he runs. He's able to change directions faster because his foot is already pointing a little bit

off to the side. That actually does work. That's insane. I mean, who would have thought that that would help someone be a better runner in the NFL? He said, it's something I was born with. I've always walked kind of duck footed. There it is. And he's an electric running back for it.

I also just, Derek Carr and Devonte Adams are like the biggest Ts ever. They came out, just lit it up in the first half. 146 yards, two touchdowns between the two of them. And second half, one catch, zero yards. They just, I feel like the Raiders are the ultimate Ts team this year where it's, it's, they will show flashes and you'll be like, basically next time they play the Chiefs, they'll get up for that game and you'll be like, why doesn't this work? And then they'll play anyone else, name any other team.

And you'll be like, oh yeah, they suck. They fucking suck. Yeah. So in that game where the Cardinals came back at them in the fourth quarter and won that game in Las Vegas, turns out both teams sucked. Yeah. And so the Raiders just sucked a little bit more. Yes.

That is absolutely true. Yeah. We're finding out, we're at the point of the season where the aberrations, we were like, oh yeah, that was weird. That game was weird. The Cardinals played pretty bad or the Raiders played, no, no, no, those teams suck. They suck. And that's just what they are. And we're about to find out which son from succession Mark Davis was in the Al Davis

chain of things. Yeah. Like how, how cutthroat are you Mark? Because if I was Mark Davis, I would be sick of this guy taking my money. Yes. And I would fire him during the year. Yes. Yes.

And he's, I, but the thing is, I think Mark Davis is like the poorest NFL owner. You think, is he like Greg the egg? I'm pretty sure I, now this is maybe a stat that I, you're right. This might be a fake stat, but I, I'm pretty sure when they hired John Gruden, they had to put like all his money in escrow because John Gruden was like, I don't think you have this. Well, yeah. I don't think you have a hundred million. He's not that liquid.

Yeah. And the, the weird thing is when, I think it's his, is this his mom? Yes, mom. When his mom, she's an older lady when she's no longer with us. What happened? The franchise goes to Mark Davis. When it goes to Mark Davis, if you're a billionaire inheriting like a billion dollars worth of things, you have to pay the inheritance tax, which is going to be like 30%.

And you have to come up with that in cash. It's not like you can take out a line of credit against your own franchise that you own and be like, my owner franchise, it's worth four billion dollars. Can a bank give me a loan against that? Right. So I can pay the government. You have to come up with that money right now. So he won't be able to do that.

Bill, you're giving us a face. I want to do this. And then, Billy, I would love, I would love to debate tax law. Dive in, Billy. No, no, no. Are we sure that his mother is alive or dead? No, she's alive. Is it like a, is it like a hotel?

What's the Amityville? Are you talking about Weekend of Burb? Carol Davis is very much alive. Who's the Hutu in this situation? No, I'm saying 90. Oh, I love this. Weekend of Bernie. It's actually, it goes to Billy's point.

I just looked her up. She's 91 slash 92 years old. Okay. So we don't really know when her birthday is. Davis would definitely, it's psycho, right? The movie where the mother is not alive. It's not doing well for her because the two, I just searched her. She's 91 slash 92 years old and the first picture that comes up

is Mark Davis standing over her while she's in a wheelchair. That's not good. Those aren't great signs of like, She's doing well. That's not good. Probably, probably breathe the sigh of relief when Castellanos fly it out at the end of the World Series. Finally, we got a whole off season.

We don't have to worry about this guy. Yeah. So I, Joshua Daniels. Wow. It's bad. He should be fired. I saw a funny meme from the Raiders. One of those Raiders meme accounts said,

Breaking News, Josh McDaniels has tested positive for ruining a playoff team. That's good. That's pretty good. That's a solid game. It gave me a little chuckle. That's some good NFL humor, you know? That is like some old school NFL memes humor.

I just needed that. Give me some like, bring back some Chuck Norris memes. You remember those? Remember when they did that? It's been a while since we've had a good Chuck Norris meme come up. Remember when Bleach Report used to do like the text messages between quarterbacks? Oh yeah.

Those were hot. Those were hot. That was hot for a while. And it would just be like, it would be every text message between quarterbacks meme would just be leading up to Tom Brady texting something and Eli being like, I took two rings from you. And that was the joke.

That was the end of the joke. It was a bunch of quarterbacks texting and they'd just get to that every time. Yeah. Okay, let's do our last ad before we get to our last two games and then we'll do Football Guy the week. We're still waiting for the Chiefs Titans game to end, but we will recap it.

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He called that out during the three. Yeah. Yeah. Now this is the fourth. And then Malik Willis has three completions through a tight end, two to running back, zero to a wide receiver. He's doing an homage to Alex Smith chiefs on his field. Yeah.

That was incredible. He went like, what was it, like 19 weeks without throwing a touchdown pass? It was insane to a wide receiver. An insane streak. Okay. So let's do the last two games. Then we will talk about this game. I think it's going to go to overtime.

Yeah. It feels like overtime. Seahawks 31, Cardinals 21. I know that everyone's going to make this. The Cardinals just suck, but the Seahawks are a good team. They are a good team. Yeah. Like there's no fluke.

Pete Carroll should be absolutely in consideration for Coach of the Year because they traded away their franchise quarterback. Everyone picked him to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. They're now six and three. Just swept the Cardinals. And it basically was Pete Carroll showing Cliff Kingsbury how to coach. Because Pete Carroll came in this year and was supposed to be rebuilding here and he's made this team very, very good and they're playing great ball.

And Cliff Kingsbury has, you know, a lot of guys, a lot of all star roster type of guys and they suck. They were really, really bad. The game could have turned at the end of the first half, though, when Kyler Murray scrambled for this little cute, little adorable first down. Wait, six, five seconds left. That's too much time for Patrick. Too much time for Patrick.

It's not on their own Ford. He could slay it. Yeah, too much time for Patrick. Harrison Bucker can, can, he's got a leg on him. Yeah. So he missed an extra point. He did. Yeah, but that's the chiefs always do that.

The chiefs always, they love to miss extra points. Yes. So yeah, so Kyler Murray scrambles for a first down. Probably we're going to get at least three points out of that at the end of the first half, if not a touchdown. And then I forget who it was on the Seahawks. Somebody just like snuck up behind him and just kind of boop the ball out. It was very cute.

And it was the cutest fumble ever. It was a cute little scramble. It was adorable. And he booped it out. The Seahawks got it. It was like the Seahawks. They do, they do all the tiny little things correctly. Right.

And the Cardinals don't. And the Cardinals don't. Like Kyler Murray. Yeah. A huge extension, which I have to imagine that most Cardinals fans are like, why, why we're, we're married to this guy. Yeah. It's, it's that.

And it's also Steve Keim and Cliff Kingsbury getting contracts through 2027, which obviously they can just fire him. But the Cardinals are just, they had 12 penalties. They're a poorly coached team. You had Kyler Murray yelling at Deandre Hopkins on the sideline now. I don't know how Cliff Kingsbury is still coaching this team. They are 10 and 19 in home games under Cliff Kingsbury. And they're six, 27 and one went down at half.

He's, he's, I mean, we, we, we talked about this at length, but he's always shown that he's a mediocre coach. Yeah. And he's just showing that again, even this is not even mediocre. This is bad. Too much time for patch from home. Three seconds. Timeout, three seconds left.

Are they going to go bucker? This would be, this is insane. Dude, he had five, five seconds left on the clock. This would be a 78 yard field. Why not, Jake? Is it? Yeah. They're on their own 40.

No, I thought they were on the 50. No, no, no, they're going to throw, they're going to throw Hilmary. I'm there. Yeah. Which is also going to be cool to watch. So here's what's going to happen. Ready? PFT, no Stradamus.

Yep. Hilmary. Yep. Refs throw flag for Patrick first. No. They love Patrick Mahomes. He got like, he's getting every flag in this game. I think they're not even, do you think they're going to throw

Hilmary? They're going to do like a hook and ladder type play. That's what I think they were doing the last part. Yep. Here comes the hook and ladder play. Rugby, run the rugby play. That's why Kelsey dropped 35. 30 hard men, cuts to his right.

And it's tackled at the 20. They're in field goal range now. No time on the clock. They are. Overtime. All right. I think, you know what I think that play was? I think that was, let's run this play.

And Miko, stick your head as close to their hands as possible. Try to get a face mask one on time down. Yeah. Just put your hands in their face. Yeah. Try, try real hard. Like try to, try to swing your face mask onto their fingers. It's like a dog looking for a scratch on it's like under its chin.

Yeah. Yeah. Just get it right in there. Okay. So I keep saying it, but we will, we will eventually get to the, this game once, once it goes final. The Seahawks, I just like the Seahawks. I don't know why.

Maybe it's because Russell Wilson is just not on the team anymore, but they look like they're, they're fun. Kenneth Walker is an absolute beast. Kenneth Walker has, in the last five games, since he started being like actually featured, has 512 yards and seven touchdowns. Yeah. Just, he's the only running back that I actually,

that I like when they wear a single digit number. Yeah. All the other ones I look at to a certain extent, and I'm like, that doesn't, doesn't look natural. And I just, I don't know why, but I just, I like that he goes by Kenneth. Yeah. Kenneth is good. Get like Ken Walker.

I don't know if I would feel the same way about him. It can also switch to Kenny. He could become a Kenny Walker. But he's Kenneth Walker the third. Yeah. It's a very official name. It is. But he, he was awesome.

Geno, credit to Geno because Geno threw a bad pick six, and then came back and was like very, very good after that. So it was a bounce back. He, like that, those are the moments that you're like, uh-oh, is this going to, because I think even though the Seahawks are for real, and it's not a fluke, they're still in the back of your head. Like, oh, no, is this like when Geno starts to crumble and he didn't. He didn't crumble.

He came back. He played well in the Seahawks. They, their defense is playing well. They've held their last four opponents under 300 yards. I can't say enough nice things about the Seahawks. I'm, I, I like the Seahawks. I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't want to say I'm rooting for the Seahawks, but I am. I'm kind of rooting for the Seahawks.

Yeah, I am rooting for the Seahawks. If, if two teams get in from the NFC West, I would want it to be the 49ers and the Seahawks. Yeah. Cause like a whole playoff game for the Seahawks would be awesome. They're a very likable team. I don't think that there's any good reasons out there not to root for the Seahawks. What have the Seahawks ever done to anybody? Yeah.

And it's, it's crazy to think that this game that's coming up on Sunday in Germany, Seahawks Bucks, before the season started, you would have just been like, you would have bet your life on the Bucks being the better team. Yeah. Whose line is it anyway? Yeah. What is it? What does the German spread mean?

Who's got my field advantage? I think that might be a Pickham. That's Giselle Town. I think it could be a Pickham. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be the Bucks minus three. Whose line is it anyway? Bucks minus one. Oh, it's close to a Pickham.

I will not, I have, I have cleansed myself of the Bucks bets because I won today. So I'm done. I'm going to take the Seahawks. I think I'm going to bet the Seahawks every week. They were underdogs in this game. Crazy. The Cardinals are bad. Yep.

They're just a bad football team. Everything about them is bad. Kyler's like stats kind of look good. And then if you, it's the eyeball test. If you watch the Cardinals, they will have like a drive that looks good. And then they'll have five, three in outs in a row. Yeah. You know how we had the Giants and the Seahawks last week,

and it was like, these are two teams that nobody thought would be good. That's kind of what we're going to look at towards the end of the season when they played the Jets. That's going to be really weird when both these teams are like nine wins. Right. Going at each other. I'm not going to know what to think with those uniforms being good. That's a good point.

Like that game, that game will be heavy playoff implication. Yep. On the other side, I had with Seahawks at four 16 fumbles this year. That's a lot. I think the record is 30. So that's, they're halfway there. And it's, I mean, that's, that's a shitload of fumbles they're forcing. Did they play the Colts?

They did not play the Colts. That would be a good way to boost that up. That would have been nice. If you have, yeah, if you actually look into the deep numbers, that's like they have nine fumbles against the Colts. Who is, who is helping the Seahawks draft right now? Because whoever it is is doing a great job. Yeah.

Fantastic job. They just find guys. It's a woollen. Tariq woollen. Yeah. I just looked it up the cornerback. He's, he is, I think he's got four interceptions. And he's been like no one's throwing to him.

Daniel Jones last week just didn't throw to him the entire game. Winner team's going to stop throwing at sauce. And then we have to do like an evaluation of, is he not putting up stats because he just doesn't get thrown at. Right. We're not saying that's name enough. That's too deep of a conversation for most people that vote on these awards to actually end up having.

And then, but no, but then that can be rectified by one simple graphic loss in the sauce. And it just shows a passes attempted towards sauce. It's actually gravy when he's in New Jersey. Yes. Yes. Sunday gravy. And it's, yeah, it will just say like one pass a game at thrown his way.

Yes. And that's a new way of saying how incredible he is. Or if one of these guys just calls it their island, like if it's Tariq Island, Saus Island, Saus Island, that's, I don't know if that works. Yeah, that might not work. Okay. Let's do our last game.

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So go check it out and use code take for 20% off your first purchase. Last game, Box 16 Rams 13. Tom Brady does it again. Tom Brady does it again. Great job. Or Boxer back. Or alternate. Why the fuck did the Rams play prevent defense at the end of that game?

It was so weird because Aaron Donald was just eating, eating Tom Brady for lunch, the entire game. They were dominating them. And the Rams defense was just, they couldn't do anything offensively, nothing offensively. And then at the end of the game, Tom Brady just finds guys in the middle of these holes and gets like two completions of 20 yards. And next thing you know, they're going at the end zone.

And it wasn't even, yeah, it was like, they were leaving the sideline open too, which made no sense because they didn't have enough, they didn't have time. It was, it was crazy. The Bucks, and this was one of those, I think I've told this before, but our friend of the program, recurring guest, Bill Burr, probably like three times a year, he'll text me or call me just to bitch about football. And we've asked him on the show, why? And he's like, well, I just know you're watching the games.

I don't have like a lot of friends I know are watching the games. He started texting me like motherfucking prevent defense. Yeah, which was so funny out of nowhere. I haven't talked to him in eight months. And he was just like, this fucking prevent defense is bullshit. And I was like, yeah, you know what? You're right. Because it doesn't work in the right.

The Bucks had five, three and outs, two turnovers on downs, o and two in the red zone, two, three field goals. They couldn't do any, they couldn't score with a million plays. And then at the end of the game, they're like, yeah, let's play soft coverage on all these wide receivers and let them march down the field. Tom Brady, 44 seconds. It's his 55th game winning drive, which passes Peyton Manning all time, which is stupid to just say he has three and a half seasons worth of game winning drives is just a ridiculous thing.

Yeah, it's, it is dumb. And this is a dumb win. And I'm, I'm not counting this as a win even for the Bucks. That's fair. I think that this is, this is really, they're, they're a bad team. They've lost this game. They're bad. They figured out many ways to lose this game.

The Rams, they're just fucking idiots. The Rams are just fucking morons. Sean McVeigh has become a fucking idiot and he's probably going to leave his team at the end of the year as Hank so eloquently put it. Bad sports coach. Yup. He's going to leave his team in cap hell. They're not going to have any draft picks.

Fuck them picks. Sean McVeigh blew this, absolutely blew this for his team at the end of this game. This is Tom Brady walked into his posting press conference acting like the way the world was off his shoulders because he managed to squeak out a shitty win at the end of shitty game. Against a shitty team. Against a shitty team with like shitty players on his own team. Yeah. And it's, I'm not counting it as a win.

It's, it's also every single Bucks game looks exactly the same where it's like, we just see Mike Evans. Oh my God, what a catch by the chiefs. We see Mike Evans and Tom Brady just never on the same page. We just see like third downs where, where passes are just like, you know, skipping in front of receivers. They can't score in the red, in the red zone. They can't like do anything offensively.

They're just a shitty team. And it's, it's tough to watch. It's tough to watch them. But they did win. So I'll count it as a half a win. If they had won with a full steam ahead, Mike Evans, I would count it as a full win. But Mike Evans, I think he's got like a shoulder injury. It just looks bad.

It looks bad. It's sad to watch. I think we're, we finally reached the point though with, with both the Bay teams, where we can look at them and say, these teams are bad, these teams are bad at like actual bad teams. They're the complete, they're the polar opposite of like the Jets and the Seahawks right now, which is we need to finally reach the point where we say that they are good teams. Right.

We need to accept the fact they're bad. They're probably not going to do anything big this season. No. And yeah, I mean the Bucks can, obviously the Packers are in different spots. There are four and a half games out of the, out of first place. The Bucks are in first place at four and five. How weird would that be if they made the, the Bucks make the playoffs at like eight, nine? Eight, nine.

Yeah. And then they just go in a little run. It would be pretty fun. Tom Brady gets some of that. Like, and then they get to the Super Bowl. Tom Brady walks away from football at halftime to go be with his family. Oh, wow. They get back together.

That's special. And then Kyle Trask takes them to a new, a new King is anointed. Yes. Kyle Trask wins the Super Bowl. Or is it, or is the Blaine Train? It could be both. Yeah. Blaine Gabbard.

We can go Wildcat with Trask and have Blaine lined up at receiver. The Blaine Train winning a Super Bowl would be incredible. It'd be awesome. Oh my God. That would be incredible. But, um, uh, oh, I wanted to mention the Rams are so sad. And these reports that are coming out about less need, like begging to trade away his draft picks, it's almost like the entire league has realized he has a problem.

Like he's a drug addict calling. He's like, I'll give you two first rounders for, for Brian Burns. Got it. Like I'll give you, I'll give you four picks for Christian McCaffrey. And everyone's turning them down because they're like, dude, you got, you got a problem. Like you, you're going to need to keep these draft picks eventually. And, and they're essentially just not, not doing any of these trades, which on paper, like why didn't, why didn't the Panthers do that trade?

I think they actually just feel bad for them. And at this point, I think they also wanted to trade a first rounder for DJ Moore. He's trying to trade every pick and just to salvage this season, which they should just look at it and be like, Hey, we're not that good. Yeah. And where our offensive line is in shambles. And other than Cooper cup, like the, the, the like five or six plays that Cooper cup makes every game, they're just not a good team and not a fun team to watch.

The big story coming into this game was that Sean McFade finally made his piece with cam makers. Oh. And so he'd, he'd humbled himself, said all the right things. He was going to get an air cam makers cam makers and cam was going to get a heavier workload in this game. He had five carries for three yards. Nice. That's a cam makers stat line right there.

With a long of two. Wow. Today. That's, he almost broke that one. So he almost broke it. You got to keep feeding cam. I think honestly, I think I could get five carries for three yards. Yeah.

I do too. I think I could. I do too. I think that's exactly what. Maybe not with the Rams offensive line. Well, should I be playing against the, the. Tate of a would just sit on you defense once and you'd be like, Okay.

So all right. Let's talk about this game right now that's going on. The chiefs are some, why are they going for on fourth and one kick a field goal? It's overtime. Oh, cause I guess then the, the Titans could then kick a field goal. So the chiefs just can. Oh my God. Fourth and one, fourth and one.

They're insane for doing that. They are, but with the rules, I guess they were like, Hey, we don't want to, we don't trust our defense. Let's talk about, oh, last thing about the bucks Rams. I just want to say, if they don't get that. Yeah. We would kill Andy Reed. Yes, we would.

Bobby Wagner did the Bobby Wagner thing where he jumped over the center. That was awesome. Oh yeah. To block that's, that is the Bobby Wagner plays done it multiple times. Well, they changed the rules to make it impossible to do. Right. And they still does it. It's like the anti Bobby Wagner rule where you have to be totally still.

You can't get like a running start to do it. You have to go up in the air and come down without touching anybody. Touching anyone in the first place. It's, it's just about impossible to do. It's like him and, and Tyree kill could probably do a backflip. Yeah. Over the line and do it. Yeah.

But that's about it. All right. So Rams or sorry, chiefs Titans. This game right now we, there's four minutes left in overtime and the chiefs have second down and like 10 on the 15 yard line. This game has been awesome. The Titans have been all over the chiefs. Like they have been in the backfield all night.

They've been the only plays that the chiefs have been able to make his patch from home scrambles. He on the touchdown drive, he was just scrambling left and right. He scrambled for a touchdown, which was an incredible play. Scramble for the two point conversion. I'm impressed by the Titans. I think sometimes teams just match up well against other teams. The Titans tend to do that with the chiefs.

A.G. Brown just tweeted out, nobody's getting open a second ago. So he's, he's actively roasting the Titans receiving core online right now. Also, people will say that Patrick Holmes gets a lot of calls. He does. Patrick Holmes does get a lot of calls because you know why he's Patrick Holmes and he's so good that anytime something doesn't happen in his favor, referees in the back of the heads are like, well, it's Patrick. My home's Patrick Holmes just did that.

Something probably went wrong illegally. Yes. And he, the Titans also, like you can tell how jacked up they are for this game. They showed that highlight of a big tackle on a kickoff and the entire team came out to meet the guy who tackled them. They're like, there's something that Vrable has done to get this team pumped up for this game to a different level. They're playing with such a like crazy edge in this game.

What's Vrable doing before games now? Over the last couple of years, he would do the stairs, run up and down the stadium. He would plank on the sidelines before games. What is he like actually getting into fights with guys? It feels like it. The old Henderson clip like slapping dudes in the face, getting them ready. Because yes, they've been, I almost feel like the Titans like going up against teams like this, where they say they get too cute with it.

We can just punch them in the mouth and they won't punch them. Yeah. Let's just fuck them up and let's just be more manly. If this was a fight, the Titans would beat the fuck out of the cheese. Yes. Yes. That's that's an absolute fact. All right.

So the Chiefs are now trying to kick a field goal, which means the Titans will also have the ball, which is this game is never going to end, which I'm fine with. It's been a fun watch. It's been a fun watch. Tractor Cito. Does he get stronger as the game goes into overtime? Yeah.

Well, Malik Willis, they're going to probably be in a position where they're going to have to pass at some point. Right. Maybe. Maybe. What are you going to say, Billy? The over is almost in play. 46. Nope.

Because if then the Titans kick a field goal. Oh. And the Chiefs get a little bit of a push. A push. A half an hour. We we both have 46 and a half. Okay. So it's out.

Yeah. But it's almost in play. Billy is right. It was. It was all push was almost in play if it was 46. They don't kick the extra point. They don't kick the extra point. Yeah.

Yeah. They should kick the extra point. Yeah. They absolutely they should always kick the extra point. Remember how sad some of those extra points would be when teams would be like in the tunnel in the locker room and they'd have to come out to play defense on the extra point. Yes. Yes.

All right. Let's do football guy the week real quick. And then again this game is just never going to end. I feel like I've said it a million times. But I would like to to talk about the ending. Although my home's his running is just insane tonight. Billy football guys of the week. Shout out Lane Kiffin for winning last weeks.

Go ahead. Sorry for yelling at the player. What's going on. No. I was going to say I have I have one that if you miss I'm going to be upset. Okay. No pressure. That a little bit of pressure.

A little bit of pressure. But I have one that if you miss you're not doing your job. Oh. Is it Ken Dorsey. Nope. Okay. Good. Oh what did Ken Dorsey do.

He just walked around the field. Like a psychopath before the game. Nope. But not a psychopath. I think he'll never recover from that. I think you have it. I think you have it. Okay.

It's not a high school football player. Well there is one this week. So there we go. You got three chances. Mike Leach. Yes there it is. Okay. I was just I saw it last night and I was like holy shit this is so funny.

Billy better have this. Mike Leach a couple weeks ago was complaining about his wide receivers not catching balls. Said that they were like T Rex's with tiny arms because they're not using their hands to catch. They're going to evolve into creatures that don't use arms like T Rex. So because of that he took away their seats on the sidelines. Did you see this clip. I did see it. So I'm curious why taking away seats would make their arms grow longer.

I don't know. But it was just it was such a football guy move because he walked over to the chairs and just folded them up and threw them down one by one. I was like fuck this you guys don't get to sit anymore. You got to earn the right to sit for my game. It's so great. It's great because it was him doing it. He's so old.

And he didn't have like an assistant coach to it. He's like no I'm going to take these seats away personally. Good pick. Our second nominee is a kid at the UNC Virginia game who was just doing it. There was a I guess in the in Virginia there's a whole hill where you can watch the games from. Yeah. And the hill had gotten wet and he was just doing mudslides shirtless the entire game. The entire game.

Okay. That's cool. That guy I understand why you want to talk about him. We should make a separate category for the football bro of the week. That is for it was a kid. Oh it was a little kid in fan art painted up. He was just sliding down the hill. All right.

That's cool. Yeah. Good kid for him. Got to include the fans. The youngsters. Yeah. This is this is the most football guy football guy I've had in a long time. Here we go.

So in Sandusky, Ohio. Remember when we went there? Disavow. Yeah. And we bowled. Yeah. And we went to that indoor water park that was that was quite something. Yeah.

In that clip the famous clip of my legs coming out of the water slide at the screen. Yeah. That was a good night. So two teams were playing Huron in cold water and Huron was up by three going to the half. And a senior quarterback who had broken his legs two weeks prior said coach I don't care that my legs broken. He had just gotten screws into it. Went into the game brought the team back to win 14 three on a broken leg.

So Marcel Blassen game. Damn incredible. That's also football idiot of the week. But yes that's that's football. Listen the good Lord gave you two legs for a reason. Yeah. He was a senior. He wasn't going to play anymore.

His doctor cleared him but didn't think the coach would actually put him back in. He thought he was just going to suit up. But then the coach actually put him in and they won. So his coach his doctor cleared him to wear a football uniform. Yeah. So like you'd be on the sideline. Yeah. Like just so you know one of his last games.

But then he ended up in the game. Byron Lefwich. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. That is pretty awesome. And your last football guy of the week nominee is Ben Chase. Ben Chase has attended 39 college football games this season. He's been traveling across America attending college football games in the bowling green game this weekend.

There's a little spotlight down on him. He's just a big football guy likes to watch football. That's awesome. Yeah. Very cool. 39 39. He's been rolling around in a minivan. He's put 50,000 miles on the minivan already.

It was I guess the speedometer was started new this season. He plans on going to 60 games by the end of the season. I have a question. Is this a football guy because you could also just get like a ton of TVs and just watch all the games. Yeah. But you want to see the atmosphere. Okay.

All right. The atmosphere. All right. Because we watch every game. This guy also he what must suck is I'm going to guess he's probably been to if he's been 39 of them already. He's doing what like three a week something like that. Yeah.

Probably three football. So he's not he's not even going to get drunk at these football games. He's just he's completely sober the entire time. Those are some long ass Saturdays to not even get drunk. Yeah. If you're going to watch that much football and not have a beer in person at those stadiums. That's tough to do. That is tough to do.

The mileage is insane too. Yeah. I mean there's some stretches where he went coast to coast like out from Wyoming to California. I mean all sorts of long trucking distance but 50,000 miles. So they'll be on the Twitter to vote on for your football guy who you think should win. And that's your nominees for week 10. Yeah. Okay.

So good nominees. I love seeing at LSU there when they stormed the field after the game. The one guy the pile on. Well no I was saying that there was like an old lady in a wheelchair that stormed the field. That's awesome. She had like whoever was looking after her pushing her slowly on to the field to help storm the field. That is awesome.

That game absolutely ruled. So turns out Malikulis did have to pass in overtime. Didn't go well. So he got sacked. Was that three straight sacks? On that third down I don't think he was going to pass. He was back there for like 15 seconds. He just it did not go well.

So the Chiefs win. Ugly game. They win. Titans played their absolute balls off. And the Chiefs find a way to win an ugly game because Patrick Holmes is that special. Was that a fair summation of the game. I think that's a fair also NFL rigged NFL rigged just to cover it for the Titans fans out there.

Yes. And A.J. Brown or which Batman is he. Swole Batman. He would be the swole Batman. He'd be the swole Batman ain't nobody open cry face cry face cry face cry face. Oh damn. And then there's a GIF attached to it which is it says me and then there's a guy with a phone just laughing at his tweet.

So he's he's really enjoying that. Also they can't lose parlay cash for the second straight week. Not looking for credit but people say that I suck. That's two in a row. That's two. That's a winning streak. Hank it's a winning streak. Congratulations.

Thanks. And you're lossless in the picks competition this week. Oh. OK. Lost. I just can't. It's bad. On one.

Cat might be. OK. Yeah. I noticed that was a very specific way of. Lossless lossless without loss. Yeah. I was impressed by the Titans. Their defense is pretty awesome.

And turns out they kind of missed Ryan Daniel. They have no fourth quarter. Yeah. This was good for Ryan Daniel because he's like this team could actually be you know their defense kept him in this game. Derek Henry is a beast. But Malik Willis young quarterback when he has to pass doesn't go so well. Yeah.

So Malik Willis where are we where are we on the grading Malik Willis scale right now because he's I don't think he was ready to start one and one is the start. I don't think they wanted to start him to know against the spread. That's pretty good. I like that. I think he's he's in the category of somewhat tricky to game plan against because you don't know how bad he truly is. Yeah.

Right. Right. If you you can probably leave all the wide receivers open but maybe once in a while you can't. Yeah. So that does that does add like an element of surprise. OK. Let's finish up with who's back the week.

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Who's back of the week. Henry. We will talk college football on Wednesday. We're going long. It was a crazy weekend. We'll also TCU alligator blood and LSU. I mean LSU is all the fact that LSU can go to the go to the college football playoff is so insane rocks.

It absolutely rocks. And quick summation Georgia just reminded everyone they're they're Georgia and you're fucking not because they smush Tennessee smushed them. That's that would be my recap of the game. Watch it. Georgia smushed them. Smush it. My who's back that we have a couple.

The first one is LeBron lying for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Oh. Last week tragically take off from the Migos. He was a rapper. He was shot in Houston passed away. Everyone's been mourning him all week LeBron today. War and outfit to the game. That was an exact replica of an outfit that take off had worn before he posted a picture

with like a side by side before the game. And then after the game a reporter asked him about you know his post and about take off. And he said I love Migos. I've been listening to them since I was in Miami in 2010. It's sad yada yada yada. The Migos didn't start putting music out till 2011. And they weren't really popular to till 2013. Like there there's really no way that he was actually listening to other stuff.

Well yeah. Because you know I've seen pictures and videos of LeBron in the studio with people listening to songs before they ever even come out. Oh good point. A&R. Yeah. Yeah. He might have been in the studio with him.

A whole year before anything came out. Maybe. A mixtape. I don't know why I'm defending LeBron. I'm not. He just got caught. It's just a it's a classic. It's up there.

You know the Malcolm X the godfather just just no reason to lie whatsoever. No reason to have to do anything. And they just asked him about it. And he's like yeah I've been listening to them since 2010. You could have just said I'm a fan of them. Yeah. That's that's a fact. I would like to say I I'm a fan of them too.

Yeah. Me too. I've been listening to them since 2008. Two. 16. Rain drop drop drop. My who's back is Twitter. Elon Musk.

Me too. Who's back. Okay. Yeah. So that I was just double checking. I was just double checking. So I have a couple. Who says twice as many as balls you've called correctly in the lottery.

My other who's back. Have you ever done it? I have not. I guess that's infinity time. I'm pretty caught 17 just because I'm just going to say. No you can't. All right. 69.

No that's that's illegal. That's off sides. That's illegal. All right. If we're if we're doing this for Billy you are you that is illegal. I was going to tell you to take. All right. False start.

So I but I don't get penalized because Hank jumped off side. So I just took a shot. That's what I just did there. My other who's back is Twitter Elon Musk bought Twitter. It seems like it's turning. It's going to be a complete disaster. He's suggesting changes. He says he's going to charge everyone eight dollars for verification.

If you don't pay for verification then he's going to shadow ban people's tweets which. He's basically like forcing people to to get verified. I'll never do it. Isn't this the whole thing that everyone's like I'm on shadow ban now because Elon bought Twitter. Yeah. Nobody knows how much shadow banning was going on. I don't know. And now he's just shadow banning everyone.

I fired a bunch of people and then they realized that they needed some of those people. So they basically had to email them back and being like hey I know we let you go earlier. Do you think actually you can come back. Yeah. So the only way that you can run a company like Twitter is if you don't care what everybody says about you. Unfortunately Elon Musk cares very deeply what most people say about him. So he and he's getting feedback all the time from people online calling him an asshole.

If you run Twitter basically you're in the worst position ever because people will use your product to insult you and tell you what they think your product should be and then if you piss any of them off then they'll yell at you more like Elon Musk just bought basically bought a hornet's nest and he keeps he has to stick his finger inside that hornet's nest for his job. Right. So it's it's a tough situation for him. But it's also like I do feel like we might be watching Twitter is going to change a lot I think over the next couple of months.

Yeah. Notes apps on the hot seat. Do you guys see that. I didn't know that. Yeah. Elon's adding the ability to do long form tweets. So. Oh that's so ending absurdity of notepad screenshot.

Yeah. It's bad. So bad. And also Twitter. I don't want to read all that shit. Yeah. Or sorry that happened for you. I'm happy for you Elon.

But didn't they have medium medium was exactly the same feature. Right. No medium was like a blog that was owned by Twitter. You guys remember when it was just 140. Twit longer. Oh this sucks dude. The whole point being on Twitter is you don't have to read. It seems like he's he's gonna he's gonna fuck it up pretty good.

Kind of excited to see how it unfolds. A lot of the stuff it's like there's no way this happens and then and then you realize he bought Twitter for 40 billion dollars and he can do whatever he wants. Oh yeah. For better for worse and more than likely for worse. You're kind of rooting for this because you know it hurt us. I'm not rooting. Yeah you are.

But you know what Twitter. Actually is only a while. Twitter is. It is. It's a correct take. I was thinking about it because you're like oh you guys are obsessed with Twitter. I wish you'd get into the other apps. Twitter is the sports app.

It is a sport. It's the it's the place you talk about sports live. The thing is like you can't have a conversation on any of the other apps. Like in the moment live just like talking about a game. So that's why because I it did hit me and I was like why why am I more into Twitter that it's a sports app. It's a sports. Unfortunately it's also the politics app which I hate but it's the

sports app. So stop rooting against us. I mean I don't care. Yeah I root for chaos. I root for chaos always. Hank is rooting for us to lose all of our followers. You know what you know what that's not true. I'm gonna I'm gonna sign up right now for a truth account.

Yeah and then I'll show you. I'll have I'll have more re-truths and truths than anyone. Also Elon I know he's an AWL so I don't stop listening right now for a second Elon. He could charge me anything I'll pay. Okay you'll pay for the blue check. Yeah dude I it's where we talk about sports. Yeah but I mean if it's a blue check that's what you're paying for. I think you can still stay on the app and not pay.

But what about shadow bands. I don't I think that's your shadow banding. Anyone can be shadow banded. I don't want to get shadow banded. I'm gonna pivot I think to TikTok. I think I'm gonna be I'm gonna just write blogs and then using my phone just scroll down my blogs on TikTok. It won't just be words.

Nice. We're gonna say Billy. For a hundred bucks for something we use almost every day. Correct. It's an hour. Correct. I mean Photoshop is. That's why I said I was gonna I would pay anything.

But don't don't hold me to that Elon. But the crazy thing is like Elon could also just like if he wanted to he could destroy it. Which I would honestly I would I would respect if he bought something for 44 billion dollars just to destroy it. Just to troll that would be maybe the best troll in the history of mankind. Yeah. That would suck though. Just nuke it.

Hank's rooting for it. Uh PFC. My who's back. Who's back. You are. I caught you. I caught you. My who's back.

I root for chaos. What do you think at our expense. Okay Hank you know you had your big company offsite meeting. That's Tuesday. What what platform would you like us to switch over to. TikTok. No I don't give a fuck. Yeah.

Yeah sounds like if I had to pick TikTok YouTube. Now Elon also said that Instagram. That he was going to pay content creators more than YouTube paid content creators. Be real. So how about that. That was a joke. It would also be chaos if you if. No yeah he's also bringing monetization for content creators.

So that I mean I have I have a good amount of followers. I mean nice. If if Elon just started straight up paid people based on how many retweets they had. You would see some weird shit going on on. Definitely. I would just keep doing the hack wherever. Whenever there's like an animal on on the field and I just screen grab and I say if you don't retweet this it's bad gambling.

I would just get instant like 8000 retweets. I would just instantly pretend that I'm a hot chick and be like for every retweet I'll take one piece of clothing off. Nice. I just think it's objectively funny watching something that you're. Yeah our lives. You're viewing. No you're viewing from Elon.

You're like this makes no sense. This is a dumb idea. There's no way this is going to get pushed through. And you said all that. He can. Yeah well he can do whatever he wants. He owns Twitter. Yeah he does.

He can do whatever he wants. PFT or who's my who's back the week is coins. Coins are back and I'm surprised Billy didn't bring this up when he was talking about the Jets because the MVP of the Jets season is actually a coin. Well yeah it's a coin. Yeah. Why didn't you tell us I blogged it and tick talked it and it's a check it out now. Check out this tick talk on the coin but I'm doing a podcast right now.

My who's back of the week is the coin. PFT what's the coin. Oh good question big cat. Thank you. So this guy you don't want to jinx it you're just keeping us away from winners. Do you know Hart we're about to bet on the bears and the Steelers just because for some weird fucking reason after you play the Panthers you lose and you're not going to tell us the coin bet.

Yeah so here's a big guy I'm glad that you brought that up because we do need to pay attention to the coin at Nooner Nation did a coin flick at the start of the season to predict every single Jets game possible. He had them going 11 and six they laughed at him big cat. Wow. They laughed at him. Week one versus Baltimore called the loss Cleveland win versus Cincinnati week three loss week four at Pittsburgh win versus Miami win at Green Bay win at Denver win.

This is Francesa versus New England loss versus Buffalo win by at New England loss versus Chicago law etc. And it goes on it goes on but the but the the gist of it is this coin is perfect. So this coin has not lost a single prediction up to week nine. You know what's going to happen though. This is remember last year when I went on Redline radio and I I did win loss for every Bears game and I made it to week 13 being correct and Chuck who works here like pointed it out in week 12 and then it just lost like the fact that it's getting this publicity.

It's an immediate nobody. It started to get publicity already a couple of weeks ago so I've been hearing about it for a little bit. But I'm saying now that it's it's it's reaching if it reaches enough eyeballs it will it will it will crumble. That's just how it works after after they beat the Packers a couple of weeks ago. That's when the coin got brought to my attention and since then he's been holding it out. It's yeah I think Billy has been holding they beat the Broncos the Patriots or they lost

to the Patriots and they beat the Bills since then all correctly predicted by the coin. Now the coin has them winning the wild card winning in the divisional round and losing in the AFC Championship game. You'd take that Billy. I would take that. Oh wow. But do you think this do you think this coin like Zach Wilson. Take it back.

I'll give you five seconds to take it back. Well the thing is if the coin the thing what's great about you bringing it up and if we jinx it meaning next week it'll be wrong. Yeah you win. Beat the Patriots. Yeah you're right. So you're in a good spot and that'd be pretty awesome. The thing is we're doing some investigation.

Shout out Jack Mack. We think that this Twitter account may have posted several outcomes. Oh and Jack Mack will find out he's the best investigative journalist I know. Right. So we've been looking at that. I blogged it. Tiktok that wasn't going to put a hard commit to it but he may have posted several results and just brought it up when it was like five and oh.

But we'll see. Why do you think that Billy. Uh because if you look at that account we're figuring out. Yeah let him do it. Let him let him do it. I'm looking at that account during club 9 9 9. So don't tamper with that. I think I wait.

No there's an ongoing investigation. And PFT let the investigation play out. I like I like to cut out of this guy's jib though. But but let the investigation fall you know he's going to find out. If he's doing the coin thing there's been several other stuff like this created before. I like the coin thing. The coin hasn't been wrong yet. You know how many different things he'd have to write down though if he was doing

different combinations. No he's saying that he didn't reveal it to like five week five. So it was already right halfway through. No but no I get that. No I get that. But if we did in August. Yeah he was at the right time. Okay well let us know how it goes.

Yeah let us know how it goes. I am mad that you didn't tell us. And NYJ Mike correctly points out the coin flip even predicted the buy week. Wow. This coin this coin is fucking legit. Yeah very. What should I say on the buy week. No just buy week correctly scheduled.

Yeah buy week. And no win or loss. Yeah. Do they win the buy week. No they didn't. It's just the buy week. Yeah smart coin. Um all right my who's back is the oh my god look at him.

He just he just went for people who are watching on the YouTube go subscribe to the YouTube. Max I said I just said my who's back and Max went like this. My who's back is a Houston Astros who won the World Series on Saturday night. Oh I thought you were going to say the Los Angeles Galaxy. Now I don't know congratulations to the Houston Astros incredible run back team. You mean LAFC. Yeah. LAFC won.

Not the Galaxy anymore. It's a different soccer team. Yeah LAFC they won the the MLS Cup. Yeah so the Houston Astros. Who did they beat. Well let me let me talk about it real quick. So the Houston Astros incredible I want to give the Astros their credit because they were an insane team.

Also shout out all the fucking cry babies who were like it's so unfair the Dodgers got kicked out. The Astros were the second best team all year behind the Dodgers and they won the World Series. So it turns out MOB playoffs probably isn't needed like a full overhaul. The Astros were incredible. They obviously had the no-hitter on Wednesday night after the Astros after the how many hits did they get the Phillies that night. Combined combined. Well how many how many hits did they get.

Combined no but I just said they they got a no-hitter. And I said there's an ass. But I said they got a no-hitter not any specific person. The Astros got a no-hitter. Is there an Astros did the Phillies. Oh there's an Astros. Did the Phillies get a hit. No.

Okay. All right so the Astros got a no-hitter. And it was incredible incredible run by the Astros. That team is absolutely nails felt like every time they were like even pushed a little bit. They answered even like they they got dongs all over them on Tuesday night. And they're like fuck that we're throwing a no-hitter game five. They had the Phillies at the tying run on third base. And it was tough.

One out top of the order coming up. It was tough. I want to find this stat because the Astros closer Ryan Presley. Maybe the most ridiculous postseason ever. He had 11 innings pitched four hits zero earned runs 13 K's 13 K's zero earned runs and 11 innings pitched all like high leverage high intensity moments. The Astros are really good. Dusty Baker happy for him.

You saw the outpouring of love for him. Really really really good team. Did you see the wild step by the way with Dusty Baker. Yes his first game as a player. The opposing team was Jeremy Pena's that. Yes yes. Dusty Baker's managerial debut was April 6 1993 versus Cardinals. The St. Louis leadoff hitter was Geronimo Pena.

There's Jeremy Jeremy Pena's dad. Pretty wild. That's wild. Also I think this was from our guy the ace of Spader Ryan Spader. Yeah. I think he tweeted out that of all the major league baseball games ever played. Dusty Baker has either played in or managed in three percent of them. Jesus.

Every game ever. So that's insane. That's a baseball lifer. And he yeah it was a nice moment. It was great. It was awesome to see Dusty I think everybody roots for Dusty. Also the first team to win the World Series at home since I think 2013. So it was pretty crazy the scene in Houston.

That your that home run was. Oh my god. All time postseason home run. He just mashes things. Yeah. When Schwerber hit that home run it was like we were we were watching it in Lexington and after the after Keeneland and we're like damn game seven Sunday night. This is going to be crazy.

And then you're done like 10 minutes later hit one on the fucking moon. What a beast. So you're probably saying like well who do they play. They played the Philadelphia Phillies. Sad. Sad. You know what I'm really upset about. Fightin.

I'm really upset about the fact that we we have to put to bed the narrative of Verlander not having any World Series wins. That sucks that he guys first. But that was such he was it was such a good narrative that we kept rolling with. And I was I was excited for that to like you know on his Hall of Fame inauguration day for people to be like yeah but yeah never won a World Series. But he was really good on Thursday night. He was awesome on Thursday.

In in where's that game. I was at the bank. It's in Philly. Is that what we call it the bank. Yeah. Yes. Hey. Hey I just Max this is your welcome to PMT where it's like guess what.

It's fun when you're winning. But people want to hear you lose. I looked it up Hank. Because that was an interesting question that you asked earlier. I learned that. It's LA it was LAFC. It looks like they actually tied for the MLS Cup. They tied with Philadelphia.

Oh. So it was a tie. It was a three to three tie. But there was shootout. Oh yeah three nothing on penalty. So LAFC did win the MLS Cup on penalty kicks. What day was this. That was actually also yesterday.

And then this thing just popped up on the screen here. It says that Philadelphia is the first city to ever lose two major league sports championships in the same day. Oh my god. Wow. Spin zone. They had a guy. OK.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Can you continue.

Spin zone. You're on your own. Spin zone. No I like this. I like this. I want someone on my team here. No. No this is great.

This is actually perfect Max. We're soaking in Max's tears. Here comes Jake to try to make everything. But it's actually going to make it so much worse. Yeah. Spin zone it. Spin zone it. They had a guy eat a full rotisserie chicken for 40 straight days.

It went viral and hundreds of people showed up in Philadelphia to watch him eat it. That's the spin zone. I do love the rotisserie chicken guy. Yeah he is very funny. I've seen that. The crowd that showed up for that was I mean just not. Every day at noon he was just like I mean the full rotisserie chicken. That's the guy who acts.

Love that guy. Fun stat about the LAFC games. I know we're big soccer guys. Philly actually scored in stoppage time which I'm not a huge soccer guy but I feel like there's not a ton of stoppage time. Extra time. If you score in extra time that's got to be like you know the game's pretty much over. Wait it was extra stoppage time.

Well there was an extra time and stoppage time. It was stoppage time at the end of extra time. So like I mean what is that 20 seconds. Wait it was it was added time at the end of extra time. And then LAFC actually scored to tie the game in the 120th minute which is the latest goal in MLS history. So basically the biggest collapse in the history of soccer is how I kind of read that. When's the first year like 96 97.

So that is I mean it's a pretty decent. Yeah that's a long time. There were nine minutes of extra time actually. Why are we talking about soccer. Why are we talking about soccer. Let's talk about the films. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Just they're the first Philadelphia in general is the first city to ever lose

two major championships in one day. But Hank you said you were holding back saving for the show so. Do you have any questions for Max. I mean just how does it feel like as you know you're a filly guy through and through. Die Hard Union fan. Last last night was tough. I'm happy we're talking about this today and not yesterday. Yeah you are lucky that it wasn't a game seven and we would like could have just soaked in

your tears immediately. Yeah were there tears. There were no tears there were no tears but like. I was on the stream for anyone who doesn't know I was on the stream it was me. Me Smitty and Houston Astros Die Hard fan Tico Texas. Oh that sounded like there was some sarcasm in that. That is those are the words that came out of my mouth. Okay all right all right.

You call Smitty a Die Hard fan though you called Tico a Die Hard fan. Well I thought maybe Smitty's been here for a long time. People know that Smitty is a Die Hard fan. Tico's new to the company I wanted to. Tico Texas has been in the bar so well for a while. Yeah yeah but but she's new full time employee. Newer full time employee. A couple years.

Couple yeah and she's very animated. Yeah. Very very. Well she's a Die Hard like you said. She's very animated very passionate. People would say you're pretty animated and passionate. That I am that I am that I am.

You're a real Die Hard Phillies fan. So what I mean you you had to know it was over after Thursday right. Absolutely not. Oh that makes it even worse. I mean. Talk about the eighth inning of Thursday. EFT did you think that that that the. Why are you asking me this.

Because the last time the Astros was the last time they were in the World Series. But the Nationals were down. Yeah. We're down three to two going back. Going back three one. The Cubs were also down. I thought it was over against the Astros.

That that scene was different. Yeah. Well I thought this scene was different. I thought this scene was different. And it's I tell you what we would never never get it out of you. Have led Verlander get a win off us. You did think this scene was different. I am I am sad for the city of Philadelphia.

The team the saddest part the team. It was such a fun ride. I loved being in there with these guys day in and day out swarps. And the saddest thing about it is that they're not a young team. Oh how not young are they. I don't know. I don't know the numbers of it but it was a team that was over achieving and it's it's the nucleus of the team are older guys

on multiple multiple not multiple whatever. Second or third contracts that aren't like these young and up and comers. So I don't know when we're going to be back there. And that's just like tough to see that's like it's one thing when you're when you're winning with a bunch of your own prospects. And it's just like we're going to be back. We're going to be back. It's like I I just I don't know when we're going to be back.

And it's just like sad to see this group of guys lose. Tell me how you feel about this stat Max. The Red Sox. You're not that old. The Red Sox have been to the World Series four times since 2004. They've lost three games total. The Phillies were in the World Series just this one past year. They lost four games total.

Thoughts. Wait since what year. What 2004. The Red Sox Phillies were in the World Series in 2008. Well no I'm saying just even if you just use this one year as an example. OK. Can you you're not using your one year. I don't know what you're asking me here.

The Red Sox have won four World Series and lost three games. The Phillies lost four games in one World Series. Or what are we talking about. Put differently. The Cubs as you know the Cubs have lost a total of three World Series games in the last like 50 years plus 60 60 years 70 years maybe even 1945. The Phillies have lost four World Series games in the last week. Yeah.

You know what's as crazy as it wasn't fun. The Nationals have never lost World Series Game 6. That's that's crazy. Do you think dancing on my will you carry that on to next year. Or is that just kind of like. Yeah. Put that in the question. Hank good question Hank.

Um it's definitely not a regular season song. Maybe. Oh man you're struggling. I'm I'm struggling. Yes. Yes. Max the answer that people are looking for is yes. I am struggling.

I was very very sad last night and it was one of those things. I let my hair down. You look good. You looked like mankind. I just went for a walk through the city after I just the game ended. I sat there. I took it in a little bit. I took in the Tico celebration with the confetti and the bottles popping.

And that was tough. And then makes you hungry for next. I've had to experience that. Yeah. Obviously the easy answer is Eagles are eight no blah blah blah. But I'm not going to do that. It's football season. I'm not going to do the easy answer is the Eagles are eight no.

Well no let's not just do eight no. James Harden's playing like an MVP. I'm not going to do the easy answer that the Eagles are eight no. What about. Tell me about her pick. He did. Wait James Harden got hurt. I think he did.

I'm not going to do the easy answer that the Eagles are eight no. But wait James Harden has a good track record of bouncing back from injury. Right. He's going to. He's going to. James Harden was playing at an MVP level. Right. For a week.

He was. A couple of weeks. James Harden is going to play in like 10 games for the rest of the season. That's not true. He'll be back by Christmas when the NBA starts. Oh yeah. He's going to he's going to over the Thanksgiving break. James Harden is going to remain committed to his getting in shape and staying in shape.

James Harden is coming back at 300 pounds. No. This is this is a new guy. James Harden is going to be pictured in in Santa Claus outfits. All right. Well I mean it's the kids. I do feel bad. I was rooting for the Phillies.

I was rooting for the Phillies. I bet on the Phillies and yeah. It sucks Max rotisserie chicken. Those rotisserie chicken guy does rock. Yeah. He does. Yeah. Let's go back.

I love rotisserie chicken. Great. I do love rotisserie chicken guy. That's that's fact. Love love that guy props rotisserie chicken guy. Yeah. Billy did say he was like oh I definitely ate 35 as rotisserie chickens in a row when I was at camp in January and January 2021.

It was just let someone else do. I know but I just I looked it up. You're all wrong. I did 20. I did 20 in the month of January. You looked it up. We looked it up. Yeah.

Which shows impressive. That's half as many chickens. I know that's impressive. I'm just saying. And you didn't you didn't have a crowd cheering you on. I know. Just let them have it. Let them have rotisserie chicken.

You could not eat 40 rotisserie chickens in 40 days. I did 20. I'm just saying you couldn't do it. No. Without a doubt he could not. No. Definitely not. Well it's more it's not the it's not the east like the just the consistency.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. No. You know you couldn't do the eating or the consistency. Right. It's getting the I think no I think he could do the eating but the I don't put it all together. No.

You couldn't do it. No. It's okay to know that you can't do it. Yeah. No. I know you're admitting you can't do it. Remember I was getting the full rotisseries for the fight. Not for 40 days.

I thought we were doing I thought we were splitting fools. Yeah. You could have after the fight. But a full one. No way. I do props to him. It's like no that's what I'm saying. He's like right he didn't you never could.

That's why you're showing him. He's a man you're not. You're a boy. I ate more rotisserie chickens than anybody in this room. Oh here it is. Embrace the bait. Embrace the bait. Justin Fields going to get injured.

I was just posing questions. I'm just asking questions. Do you really think given how much longer I've been on planet earth than you have you think you've eaten more rotisserie chickens than me. Yeah because you're like a vegan sometimes. When am I a vegan you're just making stuff up. Dude you definitely weren't like vegan one time in the 90s.

What are you talking about. In the 90s when he was 10. I was 10 when veganism existed. So Billy just so we're clear you can't do it right. It's insane that he did 40 days in a row. So you cannot. I did a couple times. No you didn't.

You don't know you haven't. Just answer the question. Can you eat 40 you were just your chickens in a row. Can I guess what I want to know. But you haven't so you can't. Exactly. Who's back to the week. Wait Max.

Scale of 1 to 10. What wears this in like heartbreak. Good question. Below the Kawhi shot game seven Kawhi shot. Okay. Above the Ben Simmons missed or pass. Where he could have the game seven against the Hawthorne. What about the confetti game.

That. I mean that's that's more you because you're sick and disgusting. What about. I'm just trying to gauge. What about McNabb. You just keep trying to bring it back to Boston. This has nothing to do with Boston. No I mean I think that was I mean that was a playoff loss.

Was it not we're talking about. Yeah Philadelphia playoff. How old are you Max. When they let off confetti. I'm 27. Which people online are very shocked to hear. Oh do you remember. Do you remember the McNabb game against.

I guess it was against Hanks Patriots. But how old were you. You were like. I was I was eight years old. That way threw up. So that doesn't. Yeah. I mean I remember.

I'll take it away. Wait. I was four. Max do you think. It was 2004. Yeah. And I was born in 95. Later in 95.

So yes. Okay. Do you think. I can't do these. Whenever the. The years and everything it always fucks me up. Max. I think he's right.

Do you think you're older or younger. Way older. Way older. What was that question. You. Way older. You thought people were like oh dude. This guy who's a fucking bear of a man is 14.

I think every single video that is posted of me. I think half of the comments are. I cannot believe that that is that voice. That man looks like he's 45 years old. It was the last time you got carded for beer. I was buying. I was buying beer in high school. I was I was the designated beer guy.

Yeah. Sure. Yes. All right Billy. Who's back. Let's wrap it up. Who's back. The week is Dimitri Beval.

Yes. Beval. He had a fight against Zerto Ramirez. Yeah. It was 12 rounds and he pieced him up. Yeah. That's that's a guy that eats a lot of rotisserie chicken. Yeah.

He could eat 40 in a row. Yeah. 100%. So he beat the shit out of him. Beval's close friend of mine beat Canelo and basically did this much larger Mexican guy. What Canelo wanted to do to Beval. Which was out box a larger opponent and looks sick doing it. And Beval did exactly that to Zerto Ramirez.

Nice. So is he. How far away from talking about the greatness of Beval are we. But I think Beval might end up being one of the best pound of pound fighters. Of all time. In the world. Maybe in of all time. Okay.

Let's get. Let's just throw the word of all time out there. Yeah. Because like you can do that with boxers if you if you have like if you defend your title like twice in a row you can start having that discussion. He probably needs to fight better be of and that's the big fight. But honestly for his legacy which he deserves I think he needs to fight Canelo again at 168.

Get some belts from it. See where that goes. But the thing is like Beval is just such a nice guy not such a flamboyant character. I don't think he's ever going to get the media attention he deserves for how good of a boxer he is in like a claim. So I'm just here to pump up my boy. Like it. I like he deserves it.

You've been a good friend. Yeah. I by the way I gave the pick 12 rounds by decision win by points. Got it. Gave it to you during fantasy fuck boys if you didn't take it. I said it was free money and it was free money. So. Thank you Billy.

Jake Lee was right. My who's back is college basketball. Well not about same element. So I was about I was going to do college basketball just to just watch you sweat a little bit Jake. No it's fine. I knew I knew it was coming. Yeah.

So it's opening day today. Yeah. We've got hundreds of games this week including the Barstool Sports Invitational Friday and Friday. Yeah. By tickets. Yeah. The first game in the whole country to tip off the whole season will be recurring guests

Scott Drew and Baylor against Mississippi Valley State at noon. Whoa. Got day games. All right. Got it. A lot of people were asking if I'm doing Bracketology again. I'm retired. Oh why.

I don't know. It was a lot of work and it didn't get that many clicks. So it was just I think you just got to throw one out then. Just throw one out in the beginning of the year. Wisconsin last four in. Nice. For me to shame on you for me to shame on me. But really last four in.

That was that was a very funny way of saying I'm sorry. Wait. No no do one bracket to start. All right. Yeah. I'll look into it. Is Wisconsin. Yeah.

I just said last one. But when you actually do your bracket. Yeah. I mean like unless they lose by the time I put it out. Interesting. Yeah. So get your tickets. Barstle.link.slash.invitational.

Also a bonus who's back. Billy's wallet. No fucking way. Stop. Billy came in. Stop. Called me. He's like I'm locked out.

Called me like six hours later. He went downstairs. Said he's locked out so I can let him in the office. I walk in the studio. I was just sitting right in his feet. No fucking way. Stop. Stop.

You found my wallet. No. What the fuck. No. I I've. What are you looking at the inside. Oh nice. I still have no cash.

Like is that. I know I still have my lucky two dollar bill. I've been looking for this since Thursday. It was in plain sight right where you say. No it's impossible. Someone must have just put it there because. Somebody broke into the office. And Billy's wallet backwards.

Someone's not with you. No no no. It's a great peek into Billy's mind. Dude on Thursday I got into the office. Then I thought I realized that it must be in the building because there's no way I would have gotten into the office without my wallet. I was looking for it Thursday night.

I tore apart the rundown chair with a knife. Like to get inside it. No that was reasonable. That was reasonable. Like a normal reaction. And I looked all over this couch. You smoked a bunch of weed and broke your nail in the other studio. My fake nails.

No but like I've been looking like I actually broke tons of shit on my desk trying to find my wallet. Thank you guys so much for whoever found it. I walked in. I was like oh there's just a wallet here. Someone's fucking with you Billy. We gotta fuck out. Someone definitely found it and put it there to like

give it make sure it got back to me. Thank you for ever did it. I've indebted this is just. Or it could have been on the couch. You think someone found it and instead of being like hey Billy I found your wallet. They said let me just go put it on the studio and not your desk. It also is like the couch you sit on the most.

Right so throughout the week. No but what it was right here on the couch. Yeah literally right here. Can you do a reenactment of it. No but the place the wallet where you found it. Wait wait Billy. Let's show you where you found it. Dramatic reenactment.

This is no the thing is I literally flipped over this couch on Thursday. Yeah looking for this. Okay. Like I flipped over the couch so it couldn't have been on top. Maybe in all your flipping over the couch. It threw the wallet right back where it should be in the first place. But someone must have just put it.

Thank you for ever found it. I literally flipped the couch over. Okay. So it was impossible if it was there on Thursday. Okay well good job. Thank you so much Jake. That's actually huge. Oh there's a hug.

That's so sweet. Nice. Beautiful. Oh my god. Our boys are getting along so well. All right numbers. 17. Jake thank you.

No you don't know. 6'9". You have to let everyone go. Dude thank you so much. You don't get the number. I'm taking 17. You did a false start. We made the rule for Billy.

It has to be a plus two. There's no one pick 17 because today's 11-6. So. Yes so I'm going to take 17. No no no you can't take 17. I just did. That's too mean. Just let me have 17.

Do you want 69 Hank? 69. Yeah. No I already said 69. I already said 69. No you just offered it to Hank. Yeah. Implying that 69.

Yeah there was up for God. No no no. Jake has 69. Jake has 69. Yeah. Jake can I have 69 back? No. Give me your wallet.

18. 18. All right. I'm going to take 91. 20. Hank have you ever gotten this? Nope. I'm going to go with 84.

Wait do you want my number? Do you want 17? No. I'm going to do but. You should give it to me. You should give it to me. I'll start. 84.

I got 84. Do you want it? I'll give it to you. I got 84. You know what you take 17 I'll take 84. No. No no I want you to have 17. Come on I'll give you 17.

You have 17 I'll have 84. No. I committed 84. No deal. I was going to give this. Wow Hank I'd be really bad. Wait what's the official law? I am officially offering 17 to Hank.

No but now I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. You're at your. Do you want 17? I wanted it when I said it. So then take it. No. I'm giving it to you.

I couldn't. I'm giving it to you. So I get 17 and 84. No no you get 17. If you want 17 you get 17. No I want it I'm 84. I'm committed. Oh my god.

If it's 17 this podcast is over. 44. Juice shake. That would have been an all time moment if I got 17 there. Damn Hank. Love you guys. Damn it. Turtles have been known to refinance their homes

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