Pardon My Take - NFL With Dan Orlovsky, New Studio/Lottery Ball Unveiling, CFB, And Max Is A Loser Again
Episode Date: October 25, 2023We're in our brand new studio and the more things change the more they stay the same because Max is a loser again. We talk NLCS Game 7, Diamondbacks/Rangers World Series (00:00:00-00:24:31). Monday Ni...ght Football and Kirk Cousins is balling (00:24:31-00:28:59). College Football talk, the big losers Dabo, James Fanklin and Lincoln Riley and Jim Harbaugh and Michigan are in hot water (00:28:59-00:58:07). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including NBA being back (00:58:07-01:14:47). Dan Orlovsky joins the show to talk NFL, Quarterback play, who is surprising him this year, his blog posts, and running out of endzones (01:14:47-02:04:19). We finish with Jimbos and the brand new lottery ball machine (02:04:19-02:18:49).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Congrats to Dan Heron.
Dan Heron did this.
He put this together.
Dan Heron is like a long time old friend of ours
who has been with us from basically day one.
I'm very happy for Dan Heron.
We'll try to get him on the show.
It is crazy.
We'll talk about the Phillies.
You're right, PFT.
We have to give for the Diamondbacks and the Rangers, the fact that the diamondbacks, the Arizona diamondbacks
and the Texas Rangers were both down three, two, and they had to go to the opponents ball
park and win two games, six and seven. I would have, like, what would that have paid?
I don't know. Those teams to go four and oh, they robbed the bank. It's insane. And the diamond
backs, I was looking at it. So the diamond backs and Rangers, if you go back just two short
years, 2021, the Texas Rangers were 60 and 102. The Arizona diamond backs were 52 and 110.
It's insane. It like, this is what sports are about. If you're a fan, the ability to have
your franchise turn that quickly,
the Rangers obviously spent a lot of money,
the dimebacks got a lot of young guys up there,
and Dan Herron.
It's a true testament like this is why you stick
with your team because a quick turnaround like this
is right around the corner,
and everyone's that's what you're hoping for,
that's what you're praying for.
So this is awesome for a lot of reasons.
I know people are talking about what the ratings will be.
I love that.
The people that get pre-mad.
Pre-mad ratings.
Get pre-mad about how pre-bad the ratings will be in the future.
And that's why you won't watch the game.
Game 2 on Saturday night against college football will be tough.
There will be people that are like,
I'm not going to watch this.
This is going to be the lowest rated world series ever.
That makes no sense.
I'm going to watch it.
I'm going to fun.
I'm a seam head.
Or at least you got to appreciate October baseball.
I'm rooting for the Diamondbacks. I am. I am. So the Diamondbacks, they have the
ninth lowest payroll in baseball right now. And they got the last spot of the playoffs. So for
everybody that's saying, I mean, Dodgers fans that are saying that the new wild card format is
bullshit that they should go back. Well, one of the one of the teams got the World Series. And I know
that that might prove wire upset. It's like, okay, a team that over the long season wasn't as competitive can make the World
Series.
If that's what makes you mad about this, then we're watching two different sports because
I love long shots.
If your team's not in it, it's hard to not root for a long shot and an underdog.
Fun stat though.
So this blew my mind.
This is from Twitter user free peer life, okay?
In 2001. Yeah, Randy Johnson
murdered a bird with a fastball. Mm-hmm. They got to the World Series. Yeah, they won the World Series actually. Yeah, they did against the re Yankees in
2023
Zach Gallen murdered a bird with a baseball playing long toss in the outfield. Do you remember that clip?
Yes, the diamond backs are back in the World Series. Wow. They're bird killers. They're bird killers. That's incredible
It's the streak of the bird. I also love on the other side the Rangers
They spent a lot of money and Astros fans being extra salty with the fact they're like oh you will you bought it and you
Oh, you threw a bunch of money at it
Isn't that exactly what every fan wants their team to do?
Yeah, I want my team to spend all the money every year, especially in baseball when there's no real salary cap. Just spend it all
Yeah, spend it all and get me a good team. Exactly. It was just like a hilarious
Cell phone by Astro's fans to be like
Well, you guys bought that you guys paid a bunch of money for good players. Yeah.
Losers.
So and also shout out Bruce Bochi.
He's his own dynasty.
So he obviously had three world series wins with San Francisco giants.
He is now back in the world series with the Texas Rangers.
Bruce Bochi has been in the playoffs.
I think it's, yeah, five times in the last
15 20 years and he's one three world series and gone to a fourth. It's pretty insane. Yeah, the Cubs did beat him The only time so we are the Bruce Bochi killers, but still insane for Bruce Bochi to just come and be like, yep world series
Let's go. We have another streak going on too that we should keep tabs on and that's the Houston Astros are now the only team
to ever lose all four home games in a playoff series.
The last time it happened was against the Nationals
in the World Series.
I remember that pretty well.
But it happened again with the Texas Rangers and Bruce
Boche.
Did you know that Bruce Boche has the biggest head
in Major League Baseball?
He wears a size eight and a half.
Or just like eight and a quarter.
Eight and a quarter.
So just got a big fucking head. Huge head. He wears an eight and a half or just eight eight and a quarter. So just got big fucking head huge head
He wears an eight and a quarter hat. That means big brain. I'm pretty sure right if we're gonna do for knowledge
He's got a big brain in that skull, but eight and a quarter hat is so fucking big. Here's another crazy
They didn't have a hat that they didn't have a helmet that fit him when he played in in Major League Baseball
He had to get like a prescription hat for him. Here's another crazy stat. You ready for this one?
Since Max joined pardon my take
The Phillies lost a world series after leading 2-0
The Eagles lost a Super Bowl after being up 10 and a half
The Sixers lost the Eastern Conference Final after leading 3-2 and the Phillies just lost the NLCS
after being up 2- oh, and then three,
two with two games at the bank.
Don't forget about the union.
Union also.
And extra time.
So Max, you know this spot very well.
Yes, I do.
I'll start with an easy one
Do you regret not making game six a must win every game ever for the rest of my life is a must win?
That's smart. That's a good. That's a really good. That's the best answer you could have given
Because you failed when you yeah, it was it was not just game six right?
There was another one you didn't make a must win. Yeah, I think it was game four. I'm gonna fuck
I think you went you went over to a not must win games yeah I said to bring me
back two wins in the desert and you you didn't right on that weekend you only
brought back one what's going through your head right now Max are you are you I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. Um, I don't even know.
It's just the same.
It's just all too familiar sitting in this spot.
Which we've, again, this is the first time
we've ever recorded in this studio.
It's just figurative.
This figurative spot.
All of you guys just are like fighting back like the biggest giggles.
No!
No! Hank, look at Hank. He's not even fighting giggles. No, hey, look at Hank.
He's not even fighting it back.
I can't even look at it.
He's not even fighting it back.
I can't tell if he thinks high on marijuana or high on just
maxes saxo.
Max, one is the best drug ever.
Oh, Max, a wana.
I'm an addict.
I just don't understand how this keeps happening.
Yeah, it just keeps happening.
In your deepest darkest thoughts, do you think it's you?
I don't know how you...
I don't know.
Well, do you think?
Do you think maybe, because I read all those very tough losses?
We forgot to mention that before any of these losses happened, you did say that you guys were title town.
Whatever, we're just loser town.
We're really good at thinking that we're good
as all of a sudden,
and it's right in our face every time.
Like no city is as good as Philadelphia is at making you think
No city is good, is as good as Philadelphia is at making you think something like you're about to be happy.
You're on the verge, you're just so close to being on the verge of happiness and then it
just strangles you.
You did win a soup bowl.
2017.
That was Yianza good.
It does feel like every year. I we go a little bit further
even Max said I don't think that any city is as good like is actually as good as Philadelphia
thinks that it is as course. Yeah, I guess you could say that. Hey new studio though we
should have we should have said that off the top obviously game seven but this is the
new part in my take studio. It is not a finish.
What?
Excuse me.
Well, first needs in the new studio.
It is not a finished product.
There's going to be some changes.
We have a big sign coming back here.
We're going to figure out some way to get this TV to work.
Max will be in the booth.
We had to have him sit on the couch for this.
Jake's in the booth.
Evan, James, Shane's here.
So I was also so hot in here right now. I have not figured out the AC one studio yet
We got TVs in here. So we'll be able to watch games
We're gonna maybe watch Sunday football cuz the bears are playing while we record live reaction
No, no studio. No one dresses better for a big game than you too. I'll give you that credit
All right, so that's a funny thing that you brought up Hank. We actually have a clip So Max during the live stream
It's baseball you're trying to get rallies going we kept on telling him hey you got changed this you got changed that change your hair
Change your you know whatever he's wearing
He cut his overall is off. He cut his old like Daisy Duke overall we all took our shirts shirts off for a while. I actually respect it Max. Max did everything he could to win this game tonight.
But he had a moment when it was getting really bleak that he realized that everything he was doing
probably wasn't going to get them any runs. You want to play the clip memes?
This is this can be such a bad night for me and you guys just want it to be so much worse.
Such a bad night for me and you guys just wanted to be so much worse. Please
I'm looking me right now Look at what I'm doing for you. I look ridiculous
I think you're doing it for us though. Yes, I mean it's not fucking
Everything you told me to do doesn't work I mean
Max thoughts I mean
Nothing worked I I I I cut my fucking things that my underwear is showing right now. I look like a little boy.
And then I looked like a little girl
with my fucking pigtails on.
You do look like a kid that's dressed up for Halloween.
Yeah, like as a trained conductor.
And then I did the shirt off.
I mean, that was the worst ending in the history of baseball.
It was.
It was.
Sometimes you gotta do crazy shit for it.
I hate shit for Stanley Cup.
I sure. But nothing I can do can get me there. Nothing.
Do you start interrupting? I was just wondering because I know Hank's a big Philly sports fan.
I was wondering what Hank's thoughts are after night. I hate that I'm like trying so hard that
he's just not in any part of my eye line. We just need to get Hank involved a little bit in the
podcast. He's he was here on poster behind you, Hank. No, I didn't look. Fuck. He's, he's not
looking at you, Hank. Honestly, I mean, the Philly's fought hard, making to NLCS is a good
accomplishment for a team like Philadelphia. And the most impressive part for me is just the fact
that the D-backs were able to go in not one game at the bank but two in a row
In a ballpark that there's there's really nowhere else like it
It's an SCC stadium and to be able to to win two
two games
One one game away from elimination and win two in a row
Pop back multiple leads, never gave up, never died. That to me was really like,
I don't think Philly lost as much as the dimebacks won. It's tough to kill those snakes.
Yeah, it's tough to kill those snakes. So Max, what's the status of the bank?
I mean, it's a very good question. It's a very good question. This is bank fraud.
Very good question is the bank fraud is very good question. I think this is bank fraud
The home field is not what I thought it was oh no
Because you really thought it was special
It was special for a while singing along. Yeah every song cheering for home. Okay. Is that what they do? Yeah Max six I you're gonna be a
Okay, I just don't know what I just don't know where to go
because
But it's just gonna like the fact that the Eagles are good is almost
It's almost worse because it's just gonna be the same thing where they're just gonna keep playing well
And they're gonna bring bring you up
You're just gonna it's just gonna be another
well and they're gonna bring you up. You're just gonna be another team that brings you up.
And then you go up 10 and a half of the Super Bowl
and then it just punches you right in the face.
And it's just gonna happen again.
It's just gonna keep happening.
So I just need to tell myself,
I just give up.
We're doing the fingers right now, Max.
Yeah, what are you doing with your fingers?
I'm worried. I'm just, I don't, I'm just I'm do look like Billy May is about to sell me a
casket. I'm I'm just I just don't know how I don't want to be excited anymore.
I like it's like I don't want to get my hope something more. I don't want to get my hopes up anymore
because they it's so much harder. It hurts so much more when you think that like
Use your words. It hurt
Like you just get excited and then you're almost there and you're like we're gonna do it
We're gonna win. It's gonna be a great moment for me
I'm gonna be so happy the city's gonna rock and then they get you so close and then it just everything just falls to nothing
And I'm sorry to everyone who's lit everyone who has to listen to this right now.
This is a new studio. We shouldn't be doing this.
It is kind of crazy that the new studio was game seven max. Have you thought?
Because like we just opened this new office. We'll show everyone the new office in a couple of weeks.
It's incredible.
Bigger than my wildest dreams, like everything is awesome.
The studio, we're going to make so many great memories in here.
Is there a part of you though that like thinks like, man, what if I just had never joined part of my take and I could have just like been sad on my own
time and not have to sit on that couch.
It's what it is.
What about the other?
I probably came at you a little strong when I asked you,
like, how much blame do you put on yourself for something like this?
It would be fair to also ask you how much blame do you put on us?
Yeah.
I think it's more of the joy that it comes from you.
No, the pain for me is also super important.
This is a tough one.
It's just unstoppable force.
First, the removable object.
I'll be honest with you, Max.
I don't take any pleasure in Philly sports fans in general losing things.
You are very, you are wildly entertaining when you lose.
Yeah, it's not the thing.
And it's, it is a compliment
I mean it as a guy doesn't sound like one right now
But I sincerely mean that you are extremely entertaining when you lose right
It's not the city of Philadelphia because I do feel bad for the city of Philadelphia
And I've hangs shaking his head don't shake your fucking it
And I have a lot of friends from Philadelphia, but just watching your pain
I mean I feel like a sicko, but this is what people do to us when we lose.
But you guys, we're losers.
I know, we're losers in the truest sense.
You're a win-win-win loose.
He's lost more than the last 18 months
and you guys have through the entire new show.
No, he's had so much hope to last 18 months.
Yeah, that's the thing.
But that's so much worse.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you guys.
You wish you could just be losers like us just regular losers
You can just like go like enjoy a nice sporting like ball game, you know
Place play some wagers and like you know, it stinks to lose money and that but it's just so much more
You just think that like the like I can't stress enough
How much like why do I think that things are gonna be,
it's insanity.
What do they say about insanity?
Yeah, the definition of insanity.
It's doing the same thing.
It's over and over.
It's affecting a different result.
And it never changes.
I was gonna, I didn't want to scream into the mic
and I heard people's ears there,
but it just never changes.
It's just, I get, I don't know why I think things
are gonna change.
I don't know why I think that this is different. But don't know why I think that this is different But like everything pointed to that with this Philly's team every they were so cool
Like they made Philadelphia likable and people were just saying that they were like how is this Philly's
I hate Hank so much agree with you. I was rooting for him. No, you know
But like that's a lie, Hank.
You look different.
And then it just all came crash.
That five, I said that loss when we were out five too,
and I gained three, and it was game four.
That was absolute heart.
Like that was super bowl-esque. Like that was was like that game was worse than I feel right now
And the best yeah the best the bat like
Bryce Harper just has had so many so many so many clutch moments
For the Phillies and he just no show when Trey Turner and Bryce Harper both fly out that felt like it was over at that point
Trey's had some clutch moments too.
He said some really like for in the world baseball classic.
Yeah, if you want to cry, you can.
I'm not doing this whole game again.
I know where you asked me to cry.
No, but you look like you're going to cry.
I'm not going to cry.
It's okay.
It's just, I don't like, it's just, it's just going to keep
happy. Like you know that this is the Eagles are gonna do this like the like
This is all about to happen again. Yeah, they're all about to happen again. What like yeah, they probably are
Hank smiling again. Do you remember how magical this October felt like like it did?
It's a member felt so magical and then and then it just wasn't meant to be just never meant to
Cuz it doesn't make a whole dog going killed a bird. It's never meant to be. It doesn't make a whole kill dog going. It killed a bird.
It's never meant to be.
I got one thing to maybe cheer you up.
Is it looking at boobs?
We could look at some boobs.
You want to look at some boobs?
I did not want to see the boobs when you tried to show me
the boobs.
I was trying to cheer you up.
And there were nice boobs.
No, Max says it really likes this.
This is not, there's not like, there's not
boob time.
It's not boobable.
All right.
Well, just I sent it to you.
Read it out loud.
Let's cheer you up.
He's looking through his phone.
It's probably a lot of seeing it.
Sad to have.
God damn it.
Read it out loud.
Read it out loud.
Read the whole thing out loud
He you I don't know why you keep doing this to me
He is now put 37 hundred dollars on
Villanova to win the national championship and let's go cats
Like I don't know why like we can't keep doing like you are literally You're just 40 to one that's 150 G. You're just throwing you keep throwing away money for these moments
Like you can't keep doing I am gonna I am the drill tweet
It's like it's gonna do the math for me. I spend this much on my car
I said this much on my house and then it's like
$170,000 on
the sport's teams futures.
Just for the, just for the these moments.
Dude, you told me they were going to be good this year.
They are going to be good this year.
They are.
So that's a good bet.
I don't know.
I don't, I don't, I hate.
I'm riding with you.
You're not, I'm rooting for Villano villain. Oh, losing when you ride with me, but I get it for I know and it's worse. I keep saying it's worse
Just keep saying it's worse. I'm not crying
Just water a little bit. It's really so hot. No, it's so much
Tired so much, you need really sweet. It's sweating so much.
Tired.
It's sweating so much.
You need a snack. Do you snack?
No, I'm never eating these.
Overalls are not flattering.
I know.
Do you have any last words?
Hank, do you have any last words?
No, I'm just happy.
You know, it'll be a good, you know, first.
Look at a max.
First studio memory.
Look at a max. I'm not looking at it him max is a content machine yeah I'll always appreciate
him for that and he rides and dies very very hard with his team it's it's not
sticky not riding as hard as he can max will be doing this exact same thing at
the camera's word on right now it might be crying you might be holding back tears
actually he's just sent us the Kevin James memes with tits
That'll cheer you up. Thanks memes. We think about Cassie on us
Some you see some barrels. He need more barrels over 21
He's a hot cold player that baseball is a weird like that sometimes and just everyone went cold
What about uharengke?
What? Remember that relief pitcher?
I'm told you, stuck.
Yeah, Kirk ring.
I'm never disagreeing with you guys ever again.
Yeah.
Every time I do, it blows up in my face.
Yeah.
Every game is a must win.
Oh, my guy, Stucky just tweeted this out
that Arizona would have misplaced
with Suzuki had caught that ball in Atlanta.
Wouldn't have mattered.
We want to heartbreak what it is.
Went somewhere else.
Yeah.
What do you think about blooper coming at you?
Pretty strong.
Huh?
I mean, that guy is so like, I don't, he doesn't have a single
inch of anything in my brain.
I don't give a fuck about blooper.
Sounds like you care a little.
Yeah.
How much do you not care about Blupper?
Not much, but what are we doing?
What is this?
Alright, alright, max, any last words?
No.
Okay, good. Well said, you're dismissed to go to the studio where you'll be for the shows
now. What a game. It was great baseball. I love baseball. I actually do feel really happy
for Arizona Diamondbacks.
Yeah.
Like, the shit you've been through,
you got the pool, that's gonna be rockin'
during the World Series.
I'm sure that I'm sure it'll turn into a baseball town.
Yeah.
They should wear the green and teal.
Ooh, yeah.
They have to have the same beautiful.
They have the same beautiful and purple.
I also, I like their mascot too.
Their mascot gets no love because he looks like a rabid wild cat.
I think he's like a bobcat maybe.
Some sort of desert animal.
He's awesome.
I like that.
I like the pool.
I like the snake memes.
I like the snake emoji in general.
Good vibes.
Good vibes from the Arizona Dynamics.
Other things.
Before we get to college football in Danor Lovsky, Kirk Cousins was fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Monday night football.
The Niners have now lost two in a row the Vikings are
Kind of like alive ish who's my pinky team? Who's back is Creed?
Yeah, you got the Rangers making the world series yet Kirk cousins winning games on Monday night
This is gonna be an insult stat to prepare yourself but get Kirk cousins is now three and ten only beats the Bears
He's three and 10 on Monday night football
This is the first win against the team not named the bears. Yeah, oh no
No, we we we propped up his schedule a lot and actually I'm looking at their schedule right now
Fuck pinky team might come back into play packers falcons
Saints
Broncos bears raiders. Yeah, that's they could easily rip off foreign to there
They look real good. They had a flash of old Vikings where they missed a pretty easy feel goal
And then everybody was like well, I've seen this movie before but
Addison is awesome add it addison once once they get Jefferson back and you have Jefferson and Addison and Kirk cousins playing great
And he loves Hawkinson too
That's gonna be good offense I think.
I don't, I don't think that anything that the Vikings did
last night was a fluke, except for that one touchdown
where Addison Rifted away with like 10 seconds left.
That was a little bit fluke, but I do think
that the Vikings are good offensively.
And last night their defense was pretty good too.
Yeah, and the moment that it was like,
oh shit, Kirk is like really balling
and playing different Kirk is that big throw he made
at the, it was probably like seven or eight minutes
left in the fourth quarter when he looked
like he was gonna get a sack.
And it was like the whole line was collapsing on him
and he stepped up and he made it and he just threw a strike
and you're like, fuck, Kirk.
So like he's playing great ball.
If we're on Justin Jefferson, will he play again this year watch
I'd say that now it's in Greece from being no he won't play at all to yes
He definitely will play over the course of like two weeks that that stock is turned around quite a bit
And now the 49ers are I don't know. I mean that is two losses
I
I think they're fine. They got to get guys healthy, but it is like we're gonna talk to
Dan or Lossky about quarterback play. Brock Purti is like, you know, depending on the
week, you see the the reason why they lose in the worst quarterback ever or elite, we
fall into that hype. But it does feel like the bite. The nice thing is the 49ers for the
first five games felt like they were unbeatable.
Now the NFC feels like it's very wide open, like even more wide open than it was before.
And I don't think there's any truly dominant team outside of the Kansas City Chiefs.
So next week, it's going to be the 49ers and the Bengals.
I'm going to say this is a must win for the 49ers in that if they lose it, they're frauds.
They're on fraud watch right now.
They are just hovering above that line.
I don't agree with fraud watch just because of what they did to the Cowboys.
But we are going to call them frauds if they get beat by the Bengals.
Yeah, they have the Bengals and the bills.
I'm just letting you know, like I'm getting ahead of it.
I do think that the Niners will be fine.
I think that they're built in a way where I think they're a legitimately good team. I think you'd be dumb to say that they're not a good team.
Yeah, but if they do lose the Bengals at home this Sunday,
we're gonna have to have the frog come. Yeah, I was wrong. The Bengals play the 49ers, then the bills, the 49ers play the Bengals,
then go to Jacksonville.
Those are two tough games. Yeah, those are two tough games.
And then they have to play and then they get the box,
but then they're going against the Seahawks,
Eagle Seahawks in three in a row.
It, their schedule looks a lot different now.
They're not just wasting teams.
Yeah, yeah, and you're right.
I mean, besides the Cowboys win, they beat the Cardinals,
they beat the Giants, Steelers.
That was a big one.
And the Steelers, week one. And the Rams, they always beat the Cardinals, they beat the Giants, Steelers, that was a big one. And the Steelers, week one.
And the Rams, they always beat the Rams.
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watch on MTV okay boys college football the biggest game of the weekend was
also the biggest snooze fest and And so I've broken down this week's college football recap
in a tale of three coaches.
We have the losers, Dabo, James Franklin,
and Lincoln Riley, and the big winners in my mind,
and we'll get to the Jim Harbock stuff later,
Kyle Wittingham, Nick Sabin, and Ryan Day.
Okay.
So follow me along here, or follow along here.
James Franklin.
I would add Lou Holtz to the loser.
Lou Holtz is a loser as well.
It keeps losing.
James Franklin loser because he can't win the big game.
Yeah, I mean that's who James Franklin is.
This game sucked.
This game's stunk.
It was painful to watch from start to finish.
It was boring.
Ohio State just kind of smothered him with the with the exception of Mazorati.
Marv. There wasn't too much offense going on in that game, which by the way, can we all agree to never call him Mazorati.
Marv. No, Gus Johnson is terrible at football announcing Maserati, it's like, dude, we just
got into our football day.
Does anybody call him Maserati, Marv?
Just, just, just, just, all day.
But that really was the difference.
It was just basically, if you had to write like a recap of the game, it was Ohio State has
Maserati, Marv Penn State does not.
Yeah, that was, that was the game. Penn State Ohio State has Maserati Marv Penn State does not. Yeah, that was that
was the game. Penn State's offense looked terrible. It was just it was a boring, boring game
to watch. And I have to think that like, well, you know, it's really funny now. And we'll
get to, as you said, Jim Harbana second. I love, I love Penn State on their high horse
about integrity. Oh, yeah. And getting like the most mad about what Michigan's doing.
I absolutely love James Franklin now is one in nine versus Ohio State three in 16 versus top 10 teams. His Penn State and
it aligns their defenses incredible. Their offense is very, very bad. So bad. They're historically
bad on Saturday. They were one for 16 on third downs, which is the worst ever for any top
10 team attempting at least 15 first downs in the last decade. But also the refs fucked
them.
We have to make sure to include that.
They did, but they never gonna score.
They didn't actually fuck them.
They didn't actually fuck them.
That was, it was an ass kicking.
It was like, I wouldn't say it was an ass kicking now.
I would actually say it was just like,
smothering is the best way to put it.
Yeah. You just got smothered.
They had 167 yards in 57 minutes.
Yeah.
And then they scored a garbage time touchdown.
And for James Franklin, it's like all been building up to this where he's like, I have the team now. I have the team.
And then he wakes up on Sunday morning. He's like, Oh, shit. Yet again, I'm the third best
team in the big 10 East, which Penn State's better than probably 95% of the teams in NCAA
football. It just so happens that they play in the same division
as Michigan Ohio State who can never be.
So this is the conundrum you found yourself in. If you're a Penn State fan, you have a
good team every year. Very good. You have a very good team every year. You get to play
meaningful games. You get to have that moment in the off season where it's like, oh,
Drew Alter might be actually one of the best quarterbacks in college football. This might
be the year. And then you lose big games, and then you get depressed about it.
And then you're like,
why can't James Franklin win the big one?
So your choice is now,
do you stay with James Franklin,
who at least makes you happy,
I don't know, nine months out of the year?
The things are on the uptick, nine months out of the year,
until you lose a big game,
and then you're like,
oh, well, we're not gonna make the play off again this year.
Or do you try to switch up and take the unknown and risk going, you know, like five
wins, six wins a season, and then that's really unacceptable.
Then you have to go out there and get a coach that you hope and pray will be as good as
James, James Franklin is because like Penn State football has not been competing for
championships at all recently.
But now you're leasing the conversation.
They've been close, they've been close a couple of years.
Yeah.
So it just can't, we can't break through. But that's James Franklin. He'll get you close. Yeah. So if you're, if you're happy with being close conversation. They've been close. They've been close. Yeah.
Yeah.
So we can't break through.
But that's James Franklin.
He'll get you close.
Yeah.
So if you're happy with being close,
I personally would be happy with being close.
There was the year that they obviously, they had a gripe.
They've never let a two-loss team into the college football playoff.
It was the year that they beat Ohio State.
And then they lost, too.
I believe, Pitt in the non-conference.
And that was the thing that kept them out.
That was the big 10 championship game against Wisconsin. Here's here's why you got to stick with James Franklin
to answer your question is 12 team playoff. Yeah, Penn State will be in the 12 team playoff. Yeah,
like that, that is the solution to all the problems of Penn State. They will get to the 12 team
playoff and maybe Iron Sharp and Zyron and Ohio State and Michigan are that good that when you
get to the 12 team playoff and you play a big 12 team or
AACC team you will win that game and then you win a playoff game and everything looks different because James
I just won the big game. There's there's a question about have has he ever won a playoff game
Yeah, and now he can be like yes he has also you get to root for upsets in the playoffs
That would be something if Penn State like lost to Ohio State
They make it to the 12 team playoff and then all the top teams get bounced out and then they go on
a cake walk to the championship. That could happen. It's a possibility. But yeah, I feel like a lot of
Penn State fans are at the end of the rope with Jim Franklin. It's like, come on, he's maybe this
is loser talk. Now that I'm saying it out loud, it might be loser talk where I would be perfectly
happy. They're just rooting for a team that at least you think has a chance every year and you're just outside of it.
They just keep running into a wall and Drew Aller is a five five star quarterback and he is young.
So maybe he he becomes the guy. He said himself he sucked and he was crying after the game.
It was very emotional like they they sucked. They're often sucked.
So that was the one loser. The other, the other two losers, Lincoln Riley coaches
the softest teams in the country.
Yeah.
And you taught us always a tough team.
Well, they, Kyle Wittingham will get to him is, is my, is one of my winners.
Jake, did you see that Lincoln Riley did not let anyone on USC talk to the media?
I did not.
Yeah.
I don't know if his players talk to the media.
Right.
There's different rules for student athletes versus professional
I would like to hear accountability after the game Jake. Yeah as a member as a member of the media
I want I want to hear 20 year olds tell me how sad they are fair Lincoln Riley is like that defense and I
Now people are saying like kale Williams could he sit out for the rest of your it wouldn't be the craziest thing
It would kind of confirm with a lot of people already think
about Caleb Williams.
But it doesn't matter because one team is going to sell
themselves on Caleb Williams and it does not matter.
Like that's the thing is he's basically can make the bet.
Like, oh yeah, one team will take me.
Yeah, if Drake May, who would never lose
a big time college game, if Drake May happened to go
off the board number one, there would be a team that didn't
plan on taking him, but then they get that last second itch
where they're like, we could change the franchise. franchise, we could all maybe extend our jobs for two
years.
If we just drafted, that's the thing about Caleb Williams, no matter how good or how bad
you think he's going to be, he's any front office that drafts him, you might as well get
a two year contract.
Easily.
Right off the bat on that.
Easily.
Yeah, USC soft on defense.
That's Lincoln Riley.
Again, like James Franklin and Lincoln Riley,
we should not be surprised by either of these two results.
That's kind of who they are.
Yeah.
And they are like a, I don't want to sound like an old guy,
but it feels like they're like millennials, not rights,
gents ears, they're a team of gents ears.
Zoomers.
Yeah, where they're like, hey, come to USC, NIL,
all this stuff, don't have to tackle. It's gonna work out
Other loot the last loser was dabbo dabbo is going through it now
He he made a suicide joke after the game, which was I thought that played. I thought it was funny
I hate he had to take it back. I hate to stand up for dabbo. Yeah
That joke was it wasn't a great joke, but I don't think it was it was bad enough for people to get mad about. Yeah, so if you missed it, they asked him after if there's like a mental health or a mental coach on staff
And he said, yeah, he's probably looking for the suicide hotline right now.
Which is funny because he's implying that their mental coach needs a mental coach.
Right, exactly. So he did walk it back. He realized like it's not a funny joke, whatever.
I was not offended by it personally, but dabbo, he's getting his wish.
He said the other day that he thinks that maybe a couple losses will be good for Clemson
because it will lighten up the bandwagon.
Uh, but talk about a guy who has not adjusted whatsoever to the new era of college football.
And you report you so Clemson, like Clemsonon was gonna be the new Alabama a few years ago.
Yeah, they were the new Alabama. Yeah, they beat Alabama. They took the crown from
Sabin. I love, I'm a sicko when it comes to just enjoying dabbo being uncomfortable.
Oh, yeah.
Having to go through these situations. It's great. It's great to see, but not because I've
anything personal against dabbo, but because it puts him in such a weird position that he's
not used to. Yeah. Where you have to see a guy that was like
embracing front-runner status a couple seasons ago.
Now, he needs to get his defense line back on steroids.
Yeah.
That's what he's got to do.
It all went down hill, too.
It all went downhill after they all got popped
for having hot piss.
Yeah.
And then so working in reverse
because I feel like they match up perfectly
with each other.
Sabin is like the anti-dabbo where dabbo was supposed
to be the new Sabin.
And Sabin, we, we including all of media, wrote Alabama off.
First half against Tennessee, they look like they're not prepared.
Second half, they go back to old school Alabama.
And Sabin is the perfect example of like, what dabbo would dream to be?
Because dabbo, you can win a championship.
But in your, quote unquote, down because dabble you can win a championship, but in your
quote unquote down years, can you still win 10 games and be in the like Alabama, even
in their down years is still late into the season being like they could be in the college
football playoff. It's pretty crazy. The consistency, the, the floor of Nick Sabin teams is so much
higher than everyone else's ceiling. It's nuts.
If I was a Tennessee fan after that second half, I would be, I would be counseling with of Nick Sabin teams is so much higher than everyone else's ceiling. It's nuts.
If I was a Tennessee fan after that second half, I would be I would be counseling with
Clemson's mental health goes for advice.
That was it was so bad, so painful to watch.
I did bet on Tennessee.
Things felt good in the first half.
Real good.
Where they didn't have points.
What they should have done is scored a touchdown off one of those turnovers that they
had. They should have tried is scored a touchdown off one of those turnovers that they had.
They should have tried to run the seven point play.
Squirrel White was so much fun to watch too.
Oh, that catcher made.
Yeah.
The first half, it was like Joe Milton Squirrel White unstoppable, just bomb it.
Just throw it deep.
Let Squirrel handle it.
Great name.
First team all name in college football.
And then the second half, Alabama happened to him.
And Alabama happened all of a sudden.
And it was drastic and it was violent and it was
bad and I feel bad for Tennessee fans, but Alabama does look like I would not surprise me at all
if Alabama beat Georgia and Alabama got into the college football. They got to be the LSU first,
but yeah, I agree. It's I actually think so we were the first to report it when people start with
this take. Remember we were the first to report it But this is Nick Saban's best coaching job ever.
It's I think Nick Saban might get more joy out of this type of season than winning a national
tie. It's a new problem to fix.
Well, it's also he probably loves it so much when people write him off.
And then he's like, Oh, okay, I'll go 11 and one.
So basically what he did was when he lost to Texas, that was that was planned.
Yeah, that was in the that was in the game plan to lose that game and
The USF bad performance with a score of like zero points
Yeah, and then he probably he probably created burner accounts email accounts
email to a bunch of college football reporters leaks some stories that weren't true just to get some rat poison
Yeah, to get some some bullets and board material going that he can then put on the bulletin board and say, Hey, guys, nobody believes that you can win. Boom. Next thing you
know, they're an elite team again. Yes. So Nick Sabin. Yeah. Big winner this weekend. Then
again, working in reverse, Kyle Wittingham is the opposite of Lincoln Riley in every way.
He is Mr. Consistency. I tweeted out after that win that Kyle Wittingham's best coach,
not named Kirby or Nick.
A lot of people are saying Jim Harbour.
Again, we will get to that.
He is so consistent and he's so consistently like his teams are just fucking dogs.
He just like, he plays the guy who their third string quarterback went into the Colosseum.
He's a pig farmer.
He grew up a pig farmer.
He was running people over,
like it's insane that this Utah team
that everyone was like, oh, no camera rising,
like this is gonna be a problem for them.
They've won big game after big game,
and every single year Kyle Wittingham
seems to have one of the toughest best teams,
well coach teams in college football.
Yeah, I just wanna see them playing a big game
at the end of the season.
Utah in a bowl game is always must watch.
Yeah.
People have this outdated vision in their minds
of Utah football, which is probably from like 20 years ago
that they held on to for a while.
I know I probably did, but Utah is just fun to watch.
You're in, you're out, great, great teams, great football,
a lot of points.
Well, it's great when you see like Kyle Woodingham
is Lincoln Riley's daddy and he's beaten him three times in a row in
basically a calendar year and
It's the contrast of the two teams couldn't be more stark when you're watching him like Utah
You know guys at the ball like attacking the ball ton of tack like tough tough guys hitting holes and then USC trying to do it with
Phinesse it's awesome. Yeah, I know what I'm comes in. He's like, I'm gonna punch you in the mouth
and I know you won't be a little respond.
Yeah, the Jinziers out in Southern California
are the perfect team for that city.
For Los Angeles to root for and Utah
is the perfect team for that state.
Yeah, all right.
And so working it all the way around, Ryan Day,
also big winner, not only because he beat Penn State
and his team looks tough and it looks like it is their
offense is not great, but it looks like they he has molded his team to be a good foe for Michigan in
the last week of the season, although I think the badgers might sneak him on Saturday. I don't know,
I'm getting starting to get thoughts. Ryan Day was big winner because Jim Harbaw is in some do-do.
He's in some trouble. So if people don't know, there's a big controversy.
Michigan has a staffer named Connor Stallion, great name, Connor Stallions.
Connor Stallions, he makes $55,000 a year. Connor Stallions on his LinkedIn profile says that his
skills are identifying the opponent's most likely course of action
and most dangerous course of action and identifying and exploiting critical vulnerabilities and
centers of gravity in the opponent's scouting process.
Is that a real LinkedIn profile?
Yes.
Because that sounds to me like something that you would like somebody just patting their
resume and very clearly looting to like conducting illegal activities.
Yeah.
It's like if you sell drugs, it's like I am a horticulturist and a botanist with experience
in weighing and distributing different products and setting up logistics networks, spanning
from Columbia to Florida.
Yeah.
I go to opposing games and I videotape it.
Yeah.
He's identifying.
He's actually his LinkedIn profile.
He's deleted everything, identifying and exploiting
critical vulnerabilities and centers of gravity
in the opponent scouting process.
So the story is, Conor Stallions has been buying tickets
to a bunch of big 10 games.
So 30 tickets to 11 different big 10 games,
either he or someone he knows, sitting
in the seats that are just high enough to be able to see the opposing bench, videotaping
it, then taking that videotape and essentially discerning what their hand signals are. And
then on game day, so he would do it like if Michigan was playing, they're playing Purdue
this weekend. He would go to a Purdue game two weeks ago, watch them,
and then when they play Purdue,
he's got all their hand signals, right?
Stealing hand signals is legal in the game.
If you're looking across the sideline,
you're like, oh, I noticed they did this.
I'm gonna do it.
But actually going and recording them
and scouting an opponent live is very much legal.
And the reason for that is because not every school
has the same resources to be able to afford to buy tickets
and send somebody to games.
Also, it's just like any time,
it goes back to the Astro's thing.
Like when you bring in electronics into cheating,
that's to me when it feels like it starts
to be really cheating.
Right.
If it's just done with like a notepad and a pen,
that to me feels like it be a much lesser degree of cheating.
But yeah, so not every school can send advance scouts to games
and do that to the extent that Michigan was allegedly doing.
I think he also bought,
at one of the games, he bought tickets behind both benches.
Yes.
Right, because he wanted to get both sets of hand signals.
Yes.
And there's now video of him standing next to the defensive coordinator
against Ohio State, like calling it out.
Well, I saw this one screenshot with a coach that had diagrams of hand signals on them
on the sidelines.
And as we alluded to last week, nothing you could tell me about the links to which Jim
Harbaugh would go to Winf a ball games would surprise me.
The fact that he had his own private NSA set up where he had guys going around the country
and videotaping things, I would not be surprised at all to learn that.
I actually wouldn't. I think that that falls
perfectly in line with what we know about Harbaugh. Okay, so I have a theory and
this is this started as a joke and then the more I thought about it, I'm now
believing my own joke. I was going to go with the theory that Jim Harbaugh
had no knowledge of it and that Michigan is going to get sanctioned and Jim
Harbaugh because he had no knowledge of it and that Michigan is going to get sanctioned and Jim Harbaugh because he had no knowledge
that has to recuse himself from Michigan and go coach Chicago Bears.
That is what I'm going with.
Jim Harbaugh is innocent.
Jim Harbaugh had no knowledge.
And so I threw this out there and then I thought about it more and I think I actually believe
it.
I think I actually believe it.
I think this guy, he was, from everything I've read and now this is also becoming like a true college football story that it's a bunch of reply guys being
like, here's another fact, here's another fact. From everything I've read, Connor Stallions
was essentially like a Michigan superfan that worked his way into being on staff. I think
Connor Stallions might, he was in the Marines, he went to the Naval Academy. I think he
probably was like, I am really good at decoding this stuff, hire me,
and they're like, you can't decode it.
And he was cheating to basically be like,
look how good I am.
Like, you don't know how this happened,
but I'm so good, I went to the Navy.
I went to the Navy.
You don't understand how good I am at this stuff.
Meanwhile, he's cheating.
I think some people in Michigan knew.
I'm gonna believe that Jim Harbott,
because he's gonna be the future coach
of Chicago Bears did not know.
What you're describing is entrapment.
So he goes to the Michigan head coach
and he says, or he goes to Michigan,
let's say like defensive coordinator,
or maybe an offensive coordinator,
and says, here's what I can do for you.
I can go ahead and send me out to these campuses.
I will videotape every single hand signal out to code them all for you.
And I'll give them to you.
If he put that in their heads, right.
That's on him.
So this is like he's the perfect fall guy from Michigan to be like,
this is all this one guy's idea.
Well, I think there probably were other guys involved just because he,
it seems like someone was funding him.
He makes $55,000 a year.
Yeah. Maybe just a big college football fan. I
Maybe just wanted to go to every big 10 game, but I weirdly enough and I know this is sounding ridiculous
People are gonna be like you're so stupid
You're just trying to keep for Jim Harbob because you wanted to coach the Bears. Yes, that is true fact
So you can't say that because I've already said it's fact, but also, my theory doesn't, isn't that crazy?
Knowing what we know about Harbaugh though,
we can get that part does Harbaugh.
Harbaugh would definitely love this scheme.
This would be, this would be perfect for him
because one, John Harbaugh, or excuse me, Jim Harbaugh,
does think of Michigan football as being like
a sovereign nation with its own military.
He's like pregame speech is always like,
we're here to protect the University of Michigan
and against all enemies foreign and domestic. He loves to break that out. He does think that they're, we're here to protect the University of Michigan against all enemies foreign and domestic.
He loves to break that out.
He does think that they're their own branch
of the military and having a military guy stealing signs,
that's just the cost of doing war.
Yeah, that's just like, that's just running a good military.
And my entire theory falls apart very quickly
when I'm like, no, a lot of people knew, but not Jim Harbaugh.
Yeah, no, Jim Harbaugh.
I'm like, no, no, wait, wait, I don't want itugh. Yeah. No, Jim Harbaugh is like, I'm like, no, no, wait, wait,
I don't want it to be known that I think he's alone wolf.
I think the whole Michigan program knew,
Jim Harbaugh was left in the dark.
So, what might save Jim Harbaugh's ass
is they might go to his computer
and look for documentation about this.
The search is emails.
The search is Microsoft Word documents,
but they won't search his Excel spreadsheets,
which is where he keeps everything. And won't search his Excel spreadsheets,
which is where he keeps everything.
And if he has a password protected Excel document
on his computer, that's probably the smartest way
he can get out of this.
I actually think that Harbought, to me,
it seems like he's put a resume out there
to get hired by an NFL team,
but I would say that the NFL team
would be the New England Patriot Sack.
Oh yeah, and think about that with,
it seems like this is right in line
with the culture in New
England and how they do business.
Do you do disavow coach our ball or do you think, hey, this is an up and comeer that would
look really good in Foxborough.
I disavow.
Can't be.
You can't be too cool.
Oh, the worst part about this entire controversy is Dave Arboss.
He has obviously gone on the defensive of Michigan.
And the part that sucks is he makes a little bit of sense that it really is obviously like
as soon as Michigan gets good, they're like, oh, they're cheating.
That part sucks when you can basically say, well, yeah, of course.
Well, also, and it is true how it works is if you get really good, people like, oh, they're
doing something.
And if you look at their postseason opponents,
where they can't go in advance,
where they don't know who they're gonna play next,
they haven't really done so well in terms of that.
So I honestly believe it's true.
I think it's funny.
I think it's the most perfect college football controversy.
And I actually put a lot of blame
on the message board freaks out there.
If you're a big 10 message board freak and you had every other conspiracy theory as to why Michigan is doing well
and you didn't stumble upon this one, you need to reevaluate yourself.
You need to go back to square one and say, what am I doing wrong as a message board freak and how can I
improve my performance so I can actually get ahead of this story and not wait for the NCAA to actually find out about it.
Do you think it's like an astro situation
where it's Michigan, but it turns out it's like every team?
I do, there have been multiple Big Ten coaches
who've been asked about it.
I saw Matt Rule notably and he was like,
I'm not gonna comment about someone else's stuff.
So that, I do think you open Pandora's box.
It's just, man, I gotta figure out a way
to get Harba out of this.
Although, maybe Harba did know
and he gets banned from the end, simply,
because that wouldn't stop him from being coached
in the NFL.
No, it's actually,
I'm cool with anything.
It's actually great for you
if you want him to coach in the NFL.
I was like, this is a perfect scenario
because I don't think that Michigan,
Michigan's probably gonna get hammered
with some serious, serious,
I don't know if it's gonna be like
take away scholarships.
Yeah, take away scholarships.
They're gonna be, the program's probably gonna be affected
by this if it's true.
So Harbaugh will probably be punished
by the administration in order to get a lesser sentence.
I would imagine that there's things that you can do
to like negotiate that.
I don't think that Harbaugh is gonna stick around.
I hope the best thing if you're a truly a fan of chaos.
Yes.
You want Michigan to win the National Justice this year.
Yes, we're all the least.
That's what I wanna see.
Yeah.
And it would be so fun.
People would be so angry about it.
But I mean, this is what we love about that sport,
which is just complete and utter confusion
and chaos and people hate each other and it will be the biggest magnet for just pure unadulterated just hate and vitriol from every college football fan base.
And it would be very funny if they won.
Yeah, I'm basically working under the theory for this entire controversy.
I'm going to the conclusion and just trying to work my way back.
Harbal and the Bears.
Yeah. How do I get that to happen?
I think this is very good for anybody who hopes that Harba
would coach their NFL team.
Yes.
I need the chargers to now make the playoffs.
Because I feel like that's the other team
that he could potentially go in coach.
I don't know.
I mean, he played on the chargers.
He might not just in Herbert.
L.A.
He coached in San Diego for a while.
San Diego like that.
Which history.
So I think I'm rooting for him. You think Harba was an L.A. guy? I may San Diego for a while. San Diego like that. That's true. So I think I'm rooting for.
You think Harbors and L.A. guy?
I may maybe I should put in a parlay Michigan to win the Michigan to win the national title
Chargers to make the playoff.
I don't think he would go to to San Diego.
I think he would.
I think he would.
I think that's a I don't know.
He also has some history with the Bears ownership.
I don't know.
It could be I just got to figure out a way.
So, great weekend in college football though.
That was like an awesome, in terms of everything that happened.
We don't even, I mean, Florida State coming back and beating Duke,
just smothering them in the second half.
Virginia beat UNC.
That was a crazy game.
Great win for Virginia and for teams that have beaten Virginia this year.
Yeah. Really improves their outlook on things.
The, I saw one person, they're like, we, UNC should just never schedule a home game during fall break again.
That was why.
Oh, that's why.
Yeah, because the crowd wasn't.
Yeah, that's why you listen, UVA might be the worst.
I think they probably are the worst power five school in terms of their football pro.
There, I think they're, they're only when was against William and Mary this year.
So that's I think Michigan State is Michigan States bad.
They put Hitler on the board.
They did.
They did.
It was it was a third party Hitler.
Yeah, it was third party Hitler.
It's just so we're clear.
You never want to get third party.
Well, Michigan State like that is just comically everything could have
everything that could have gone bad.
They were like, you know what what let's throw Hitler on there
You think they'd be able to blitz a little bit better if Hitler's up on the jumbo Trump. Yeah, got him
Got him yet no Michigan that was that was hard
I love watching when Harbaugh knows he's got his guys and he knows it like his rivals suck
He's like because they were still they were still running off into the end of the game 49 nothing like yeah
Fuck you. We're gonna just fucking kill you.
Right, so with Michigan thing real quick,
I don't think that Harbaugh is ever gonna be sorry about this.
I think that he's, the only dumb thing is they got caught.
Yeah, like I think a lot of college football teams
probably do very similar things to this,
with the amount of money that coaches get paid
and how like every season can put you
on the hot seat in college football
and the way that these guys run their programs, I'm sure that it happens a lot.
Like there's, there's a ton of teams in college football right now that are like
circling up and being like, how can we be smarter about cheating so we can get caught?
The, the only problem for Michigan is they beat Ohio State two times a row.
They flew too close.
If they don't beat Ohio State this past season, because I like hellhack no fury like in
Ohio State fan that can't accept the fact they're worse than Michigan.
They probably spent, there's probably hundreds of Ohio State fans that have spent the last
year trying to figure out a way to prove that the Michigan is cheating.
Yeah.
And they found it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that, that's really what your problem was.
You, you basically activated an entire army of college football fans that had been sitting back and being like
No, we beat Michigan every year two years in a row one years fine fluke two years
They're like well, we got to figure out what's going on here going into the season if you were to be told that there was one coach that was running a massive
Like nationwide surveillance program on their future opponents. It would be hardball, right?
well, I would say Jim
Bob would his team suck. I could see Brian Kelly maybe. Yeah. Brian Kelly could do that.
But yeah, I would have the best history with camera guys. Yeah, would be he'd be the top of the list.
Yeah, definitely. It's Harbaugh. Like, this is, this is, it's falls perfectly in line with what we
know about Harbaugh and it actually in a sick way, it makes me like a more. Yeah, oh yeah. I love
them. Like, what, how many hours a week do you think Jim Harbaugh was dedicating to having like secret meetings
with his illegal video staff?
Yeah.
Probably he was probably doing like 10 hours a week.
And also kind of like this Connor Stallion's guy because he was a Michigan super fan.
He's like, how can I be on the staff?
Yeah.
Listen, I'll cheat.
Listen, if somebody wants to work for part of my take
and volunteer to go behind the scenes and sabotage
Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's relationship
so that they're no longer threat on the podcast charts,
I'm not gonna say no to that.
No, bring me a plan and I will entertain it.
Yeah, we will just be like, we didn't know.
Just don't send a email.
Yeah, I don't want to be included.
Hank will take care of all that for us. Yeah, Hank will be our fall guy. Yeah, for sure
It was all Hank's idea. Yeah. All right
Hi as far as names for fall guys go Connor stallions is pretty good one great name because you don't forget it
Yeah, so it's like yeah, okay. I could see a guy named Connor stallions doing this great name
Okay, should we do hot sea cool throne?
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Um, my hot seat speaking of Bill Bellcheck in the Patriots are the haters, the fan fictionists
that were spreading rumors that he was going
to be done after this year.
Oh, we covered this on Monday, sorry.
We don't need to talk about this now.
I assumed you didn't talk about it, you know, as like, hey, we fucked up.
He's extension.
Oh, you did listen to the show.
No, because this, they leaked that because he is definitely like under the microscope.
Yeah.
Why else was there a verse hot seat?
I appreciated the wires very much, big cat, but on Monday, I was out late after the wedding.
I slept on a friend's couch, didn't charge my phone.
Got to the airport, my phone was about to die.
So I had to get a charger,
and instead of being able to listen to the podcast
on the way home, I had to touch the phone.
So that's your fault, that's not the wired headphones fault.
Well, it would've been nice to do two things at once.
Well, did you see Aaron Rogers on the man in cast? He had a terrible microphone, then he switched to a wired headphones. I did not see that, that's fault. Well, it would be nice to do two things at once. Well, did you see Aaron Rogers on the man in cast? He had a terrible microphone
then he switched to a wired headphones. I did not see that.
Yeah, I know. He could have just played on speaker on the on the on the flight.
Yeah. Yeah, he should have. He's holed it right up to your ear. Let everyone know
what's up. But yeah, are you cover this? Are you ashamed that you would be
listening to part of my take? No, I just think that's a very rude move.
And if someone did that next to me, I would if it was part of my take,
complain after the fact forever.
All right.
Well, we did cover it.
And did you apologize?
I apologize for what we covered the facts as they are, which is that the New England Patriots
leaked this news because their coaches on the hot seat.
So they wanted to make it seem like he was not on the hot seat.
Because what year was it that they also did this 2007 right after the spy gate stuff.
But he's remained coaching.
Right, he did.
Yes.
Also, I had some people hit me up and we were way off on Bill Bailcheck's salary.
They said it's north of 20 million.
What?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Good for him.
I respect a man that can get paid 20 million dollars a year and then just go into work miserable.
And he can scream at everybody. Yeah. That's a lot of money. Yeah. Good for him. He deserves every penny. For two and five.
Yeah. Are you back in? No, I don't know. I didn't really see much of the game. It's hard.
It's hard. It's hard. Good. It looks very good. If we spoil against the dolphins and I'll be all
the way back. This was a spoil game you just happened
It just happened too early in the season to be known right now as a spoiler game
But we might look back so we look back and December be like the the Patriots spoil the bills back in October
So are you gonna get all pumped up for Sunday? Yeah, yeah, you should get your game
I always get pumped up just during the week where it's like I know about always pumped up
I bet a lot on the Patriots ever again.
Yeah, I don't know.
I convinced myself.
I get excited.
What happened on last Friday's picks?
Do you remember that?
Oh, he went with the bills.
He bet on the bills.
Okay, interesting.
So you were down on the Patriots last week.
Well, I specifically said if you were listening,
I don't know if you caught that part,
but I said,
We didn't have headphones.
Because I wouldn't be watching.
Oh.
I'm just gonna pick the bills.
Okay, well it's good to have you back. It's good to be back. I'm just gonna pick the bills. Okay, what's good to have you back?
It's good to be back. I miss you guys.
I miss you too.
And then my cool throne.
That was such a pathetic pause that you did
and looked at us that saved back.
I always miss you.
My cool throne is you gone in football.
Yeah. Yeah. So we're football guys
through and through.
Our colleague, Donnie, Donnie does came to us with a unique opportunity to help
like
fund and and grow the game of football in Uganda
So I don't I don't think you guys have been fully keyed in but basically there's a
We there's a bunch of pads in Texas that the Ugandan football league needs so they can play and start a Ugandan football league
Mm-hmm, and we're gonna help with the help of part of my cheesecake maybe still blue coffee get those pads to Uganda
And then they're gonna have our logo and stuff on their jerseys. I love that Billy football is going out to coach with
Coach with Donnie. I don't know how I feel about that. That's great
Billy football is going out to coach with coach with Donnie. I don't know how I feel about that. That's great
Billy football is he going to do more harm than good in educating them on how to play football
That remains to be determined. I think I think I think he could take a quarterback and just work one-on-one and like mechanics of the quarterback But anything strategic I hope Billy stays far away from I'm excited for this. I'm excited
I mean grow the game. Maybe coaching is his true calling.
Yeah, grow the game.
But yeah, I was like,
Donnie was like, basically,
Hey, do you guys want to get involved
in the Ugandan football?
It was a gap.
Easy.
No brainer.
Do we know what the name of the team is?
I think we, I think we can have a say in that.
Hmm.
The Ugandan play the billies.
The Blake's.
The Billy Blake's.
Yeah, the billies. Just having to be the billies. The cheese bills. Yeah, just having to play the billy the billy the billy the billy
is having to be the billy cheese bills yeah just having to be the billy the
billy footballs okay pft your hot seat get a couple hot seats my first one is
daylight yeah lights on the hot seat because this weekend remember everybody
set your clocks back fall back spring forward fall back so we're losing now
our daylight this weekend I hate this time of the year because you leave work and it's you know five o'clock sometimes and it feels like it's seven or eight o'clock at night
You don't really get to see the sun so soak it up for the next couple days
Well, I can because on it's Saturday night at 2 a.m. Yep two a.m.
clocks go back
My other hot seat is Hank
My other hot seat is Hank. Because Hank, I want to say first and foremost,
you did a great job planning out the studio,
you did a great job helping get this office set up,
but you really fucked up one big part of the office,
the parking lot.
What about it?
Hank didn't think to take a look at the giant pole that's in the middle of the parking lot and put I don't know
Maybe some sort of big red blinking light on top of it to let people know. Hey don't run a ground here
Because some people
drove their brand new car that they bought last Tuesday
Right into the pool today wait first time he came to the park. I
Had a telephone pool in the parking lot.
The first time that I was in here this morning.
How did you do that?
There was a truck coming,
like a big truck coming down this one car to the road,
and I had to drive in between,
I had to drive through a parking space
to get out of the way of this truck.
On one side of the parking spot was a car,
on the other side was a giant telephone pole.
How giant?
It was a standard size telephone pole.
So like it would be the biggest baseball bat of all time.
Did it come out of nowhere on you?
Yeah, it really did because it didn't have as you know certain towers that prevent this
sort of thing, what is a big flashing light on top.
Was it see through?
I, it hit me on my blind side, which is the back right passenger side door, and it put
a pretty bad scrape and dizzis.
I've never bought a new, okay, I thought so.
Wait, so you like, you, you, you drove into a head-on or you like scrape the side of it?
You didn't know how it, yeah.
It's, it's sides wide.
Or it just came at you.
The, the telephone pole T-bone to me.
Thank God you're not a pilot.
Yeah.
It, it's not good. It's the very,
it's the only new car I've ever bought in my life. And it lasted seven days. And now I've got a big
dent and scratch in the side. So hopefully I'll get that taken care of. But not the best. So then I
come into the studio and we've got part of my take. We've got PMTV that we're filming to show like
our reaction to the studio and all that I came in and I was very
Excited to see a studio looks awesome and then afterwards
I was like you know what that might have been a little low energy, but I just want on record
It's because I just crashed my car parking lot that's like five minutes ago. Oh, damn not a great sign
But we're gonna we're gonna adapt we're gonna overcome yeah, and that's oh yeah, there's a pull right there
Yeah, that is they got a picture of the pole pulled up
Yeah, that's pretty you know what I can see it that is a pull. Yeah, and it came out of nowhere
You shouldn't you shouldn't drive your car and do it. We need to put a warning sign on that pole. Can we do that?
We take the big take PFT's license like the yellow thing that's painted on it. That's usually the sign for yeah
That's very much a poll warning.
I could see it.
Well, now there's a little bit of red on the side too
for the car.
So I love that car too.
And I just don't throw too close to the poll.
Yeah, you could say that.
When you say, hey, yeah, I scraped like the entire
back right passenger side.
Yeah, yeah.
And the worst part is as I'm going through,
you hear the crunch and then you stop
and then you're like, well, fuck, how do I get out of here?
And then you hit reverse and it crunches it again
and then I stopped again and I hit forward again
to pull away.
I was just banging this pole.
I was just jackhammering my car.
Sorry.
But maybe next time, I just don't want it to happen to somebody else.
I want this to be a teachable moment.
We should put a sign on that pole being like, hey, has that pole?
Don't drive your car into it.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Is that too much to ask?
No, yeah, I think we can, we can, we'll just label it pole.
You think it's a kicker you would have.
I don't, yeah.
I actually double-daked it because I went forward and then back to it.
Oh! Yikes. Yeah
My cool throw off that out
Do you and this is the first time you've been driving in like seven years?
No, I drove a little bit. I like running car. I'm a good driver
In fact one of the best things I like about my car
It's got a heads-up display so I feel like I'm a pilot when I drive it's probably got a lot new
Yeah, my car is like censored.
If I hear within 10 feet or something,
it starts beeping like crazy.
Yeah, well, it's beeping like crazy the whole time.
Because there was a car in front of me.
There was a car to my side.
There was a truck driving behind me at the time.
Do we have security camera?
We're going to find out.
I would love to see if we have that footage.
We're just pulling straight into that pole.
I'm a great driver though.
I am.
Right.
My cool throne is curses.
So curses on the cool throne.
There's two curses going on right now that affected the Houston Astros last night.
One, the curse of mattress Mac.
That apparently was real.
And then the second, the curse of Ted Cruz.
Yes.
So Ted decided he was going to go to the game and he tweeted out that he was going to be there and everybody
In Texas was like no Ted, please don't go because you're o and four very funny games that you attended Ted Cruz said no
I'm still gonna go and now they're o and five and playoff games that Ted Cruz has attended
I think that's just this year. So yeah, I would store in the capital if I was not damn
That's tough for old Teddy boy. All right, my hot seat is NBA Analysts.
So NBA Analysts because the NBA started tonight,
so they don't have anything to talk about now
that the games are playing played.
And then Yannis signed a three year extension,
which is, if you're an NBA Analysts,
you gotta be so pissed, that was going to be
so much of your conversation
and content in the next year.
Yeah, you got it.
You know, you know, that was going to be like your number one
storyline.
You just got to fast forward to Kobe versus MJ versus
LeBron.
Yeah.
It's just like the double whammy of like, oh, now we have
to talk about games and not free agency.
And also, Yannis is going to stay.
Well, they're going to do, they're going to do half an hour
blocks of just straight up women Yama.
Yeah.
And be like, how is this guy doing this?
I'd like to see the NBA guys be like,
but if Yana's didn't sign it, where would you go?
Where would we like to see Yana's?
Yeah, yeah.
Just keep going forward.
Just don't let the facts ruin what you were planning
on doing all summer long.
It seems like Yana's enjoys Milwaukee.
Yeah.
It seems like he really likes that town.
And it breaks people's brains.
It's like, no, he, he should want to be in New York. Yeah. No, no, he should. enjoys Milwaukee. Yeah. It seems like he really likes that town. And it breaks people's brains. It's like, no, he should want to be in New York.
Yeah.
No, no, he should bullshit.
Yeah.
He should want to be my, is Janice at the Toe of Comco?
Jake, I know that.
Yeah.
Is Janice a coward for not wanting to play on the Lakers
or the Knicks?
Many people are asking.
That should get you through, at least a week.
Many people are asking.
And then my cool throne plug God tonight, if you're in Chicago, I'm hosting a comedy
show at the laugh factory.
So this is something that we're going to be doing every month.
PFT will host it at some point.
I think Nick is going to host it.
Brandon even said, we wanted to support some of the guys that are still, they're trying
to be stand up comedians.
So I was like like we'll just do
Comedy show once a month So laugh factory 7 p.m. Sold out 9 o'clock has some tickets come out. I'm hosting it. It's gonna be a great time
material
No, I'm hosting it tight five
Like a type two, okay hosting usually they usually spit. Yeah, but it's gonna be like last time I was here.
I did this show because I had to pay my bookie this time.
I'm doing it to try to help everyone in the office.
You should just be really nice.
You should just come up.
You should stink.
You should just be really bad.
That way everybody else looks funnier.
We're trying to we're trying to gaslight branded into hosting it
and smashing a watermelon.
That would be good.
Yeah.
Which also we should probably whoever loses our picks thing. like that definitely is on the table for the Vegas show
It's matching watermelon. Go full Gallagher. Yeah, just full Gallagher. Gallagher was great
Yeah, you don't think Gallagher was funny. He was hilarious. Yeah, hilarious dude. So by tickets laugh factory tonight
Wednesday night 9 p.m. No baseball on
No NFL on so yeah, come on out. We still have a few tickets left for the late show
It's gonna be fun and like I said we're gonna keep doing it. So everyone will get a chance
Maybe Hank will host one who from barstool is I mean if I lose if I keep losing his competition. I'm as a
Get five minutes. Yeah, yeah, MOOC is
MOOC's a very funny stand-up comedian and when he was like
Thinking about moving with everyone here,
I was like, dude, we'll host one of these once a month.
And I think Nick also wants to keep trying and stand up.
So I was like, yeah, we'll host it.
And we'll have everyone rotate.
Donnie will host one.
You'll host one.
Brandon.
So yeah, it'll be good.
It's good for the squad.
So yeah, by tickets, if you have not
and you want to come out and see me and
obviously everyone here is invited. So come on out. All right, Jake, how's he cool to
run? My hot seat is coaching youth football. Marcus Freeman, the head coach from Notre Dame.
He did a little reversal on a beat reporter for Notre Dame, Tim O'Malley. He got to ask
him questions because the reporter coaches Marcus Freeman's son's youth team. It was
awesome. It was an awesome club. Here was the question
My turn. Okay, two things. All right second third grade championship game. Okay two trips to the red zone zero points one
Play was the worst pass that was intercepted in the red zone. You were the offensive coordinator there thoughts on the red zone play call
Yeah, and he also the second question was his son Marcus Freeman son, son Nico Freeman was like, Nico Freeman ripped off an 80 yard run
afterwards though it was called back
because he didn't have the appropriate amount of flags
whose fault was his response.
That was great.
It was fun to do that every day.
Yeah, I like to ask questions to the media.
What is the, it's just two flags, right?
I think it's two flags.
You have to have one flag on
and he was like, what happened there?
Yeah, that seems like a pretty pretty bad coaching mistake
Yeah, yeah, so that was funny. I put them on the hot seat. Yeah, yeah, my cool throwing cold stickets
They're home once again. Yep. Oh, the new Orleans Saints. So let's brainstorm some ideas
We had some great submissions for the jerseys last week. I want to do blakes
Just naming Blake Blake exclusive. So if your name is Blake and your Colts fan and you want to go to this game and get sideline passes
Okay, how do we give proof that they're Blake?
I'm a sin in their email, but picture of your ID. Yeah, and social security card social security card and credit card
You get any more than fake an ID
First certificate social security card. All right, PMS the internet bar still sports. We're actually gonna get a couple social security
Yeah, 100% 100%.
100%.
Yeah, also include the name of the street you grew up on,
your mother's maiden name, and your dog,
your first pet.
First pet, yeah, please see that.
All right.
Okay, let's get to our interview.
Someone that we've wanted to have on for a while,
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Dan Orlovsky. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest,
someone we probably should have had on before, but we waited
specifically for this moment. So he could be the first guest in
the new part of my take studio. So he's part of part of my take history.
It is ESPN analyst.
How many years in the NFL 11?
Well, 12 years in the NFL.
I didn't look that up. I just guessed 12 years in the NFL.
It is Dan Orlovsky.
Dan, thank you for joining us.
Welcome. You are the first guest.
I hope that you feel as acclaimed as you should right now.
Yeah. Obviously, I agree.
It's probably a year or two late.
So finally getting the invite.
I'm honored and humbled.
I'm good to, I'm thankful to be your guys first.
Yes, always wanted to be.
Always remember first.
I feel a little bit painful,
but maybe towards the end of the interview,
it will feel a lot better.
Yeah.
Too at the same time, being someone's first with two people
is a lot better. Yeah. Yeah. Two at the same time being someone's first with two people is it's big. It's a unique experience. So we want to talk some some ball. We want to talk some
NFL. We're going to obviously talk some blog posts as well eventually. But let's start with some
NFL talk. Let's start with some NFL talk because I like you and how you analyze the game because
you obviously watch the tape. You know what you're talking about,
and guys like us idiots get things wrong all the time.
So first question, who's the guy that we get wrong the most right now?
Who's the guy who's playing better than what everyone in the media and idiots like us are like that guy sucks,
and you're like, I'm watching the tape, it's not him.
Yeah, I mean, right now it probably still is Stafford.
I know for a long time it was Stafford.
Stafford is throwing the absolute piss out of the football.
I mean, he's throwing it just as good as maybe he's ever thrown it.
Now, maybe it's a little bit because of LA and the Rams.
And I think there are either three and three or two and four.
So they're obviously on the outside looking in mid October, but he's playing unbelievable
football.
I'd also say this and I'm not like a massive.
This guy is the future of the football team, but I do think Desmond Ritter has been better
than what people think.
He's been better, dude.
Like, there's been tough moments.
I called their London game against Jack Seville in the first half.
It was awful, but he just went through the ball.
And I think like there's a lot of growth in the last month.
He's a third round pick.
So, you know, people expecting him to, you know, be Matt Ryan slow down.
But I do think he's had moments when you're like, all right, dude, they're 90% of the time.
This kid's played pretty good football.
And then there's 10% that they got to figure out can they get rid of it or whatnot.
But like last week, I thought he played really good against Tampa outside of like some
silly red zone film.
And so I think Ritter, because everyone's like, you know, I'm on a greeny greeny.
He's like, it lent a trade for Justin Fields.
And I'm like, I don't, I don't know if that's the answer.
I think they like Des and Ritter.
I probably say Ritter.
Oh, yeah, from the, from the one to the I think they like Desmond Ritter. I probably say Ritter. Oh, yeah, from the one to the 99-yard line,
Desmond Ritter played pretty well last week.
And he didn't throw any red zone picks,
but he did fumble the ball twice on the one.
It's hard to separate that,
because as a fan, you watch Desmond Ritter play,
and he actually makes you think that he is worse than he is
because you want to pull your hair out
when you get so close to the in zone
and then you keep fumbling.
But you're saying that overall, like the quality of throws that he's making, the way he's running the offense,
you're saying he's actually not as bad as we think he is. Yeah, absolutely. And like even those
like, fumbles on the one yard line, you know, one of them is a, you know, fumbled snap with the center,
you know, that is how often are we going to see that? Like is that really something you go, man,
we gotta get that fixed from the quarterback twice twice. He's fumbling the one. Yeah, but that is how often are we going to see that? Like is that really something you go, man,
we gotta get that fixed from the quarterback?
Twice.
Twice.
He's one of the one.
Yeah, but what I'm saying, one of them is the fumbled snap.
Right.
And then one, he's running with the football.
And like, again, you put it in your left hand
or you cover it with two hands,
and those are easily fixable.
Can you, can you throw it to the right place?
Are you making the right throws?
Can you make some big time throws?
Two weeks in a row, we've seen big time throws late in game.
So again, I'm not sitting here telling like Atlanta,
you don't have to think about quarterback next year.
But right now, I don't know, I think they're four and two.
Yeah.
Four and two and you gotta be sitting there going okay
through eight or nine games as a starter.
There's some really good moments.
Yeah, they're four and three.
We, we, I, I, I, this point in the season, yeah,
it's like every team, you know the really good teams, the really bad teams three. We, we, we, I, I, this point in the season. Yeah, it's like every team.
You know the really good teams and really bad teams and everyone else is like, they're three and four, four and three.
Yeah, something around there. And I feel like, I feel like they're scheduled for the rest of the season is super favorable.
Like it wouldn't shock me if the Falcons ended up winning 10 or 11 games this year.
Completely agree. The defense is awesome. The defense is absolutely awesome.
They can run it. We know that they remembered
that Drake London played on their team. Kyle Pits is starting to get a little healthy.
So I just think like the if he plays over the next what 10 weeks or so like he has the last
three or four weeks last month, they'll they'll win 10 games.
Sure. I will consider tempering my my Desmond Ritter hate right now. For me, it's mostly
just about wanting to see
Heinecke get in the game because he's more fun to watch
Object I totally agree that yeah, I totally agree that yeah
I was on again on the call. I was like Heinecke's got to have at least being the conversation for the second half and Arthur Smith
Was I got say not that's why he's the coach, but I love how he keep playing for sure
But I think Ritter's played good so great answer on Desidders, because that's definitely someone that were like easy fix, start Taylor Heinecke
or trade for Kirk Cousins.
Here's another one.
What offensive coordinator or like play calling scheme
is doing the biggest disservice to a quarterback right now.
Again, you watch the tapes.
So I need these answers,
because we, again, we are very dumb and we're like,
oh, he sucks.
Stop calling that play.
There's a lot more involved to it that you were able to see that we aren't.
All right.
So there's a couple of disservices.
I have to go to NFL.com and actually look at the offense.
So can he pick it in Pittsburgh?
You know, like if you Pittsburgh beats the Rams and our producer for NFL is like, what
did you see?
And I'm like, they threw the ball to George Pickens. Yeah.
If they didn't, and all they're doing is throwing
back shoulder fades to George Pickens.
So there's such a lack of creativity in Pittsburgh.
There's definitely a disservice.
Cause I do think Kenny's had some like bright moments.
He's been indie Tennessee, they've been good
can you say a bit of the Chargers?
Oh,
commanders.
I think Biena me and Washington a little bit just because,
I mean, early on it was working because Sam is just outrageously aggressive with the
football and they were doing really cool protection stuff. Now teams have figured out
that's what they want to do. And instead of teams like trying to pressure the like tackles,
they're just blitzing or pressuring up the middle of the offensive line. And it's a,
it's a disaster right now. So, um So I think a little bit just protection wise and Washington's got to get fixed. I do think Matt LaFlaur and Green Bay, I love Matt.
He's a boy of mine. I'm known him forever. There's way too many like predictable plays on tape.
You know, they're just like when they get in condensed splits, here comes stick route.
So I think they got to open that up a little bit more for Jordan. I think Jordan needs to play better as well. Certainly
when Justin was playing at the beginning of the year in Chicago with Luke Getzzy, that
stunk. Those are probably the main ones.
Okay. I was basically fishing for you to just figure out a way to tell me that Justin
Field is not the problem. Those were the first two questions. I could have just directly
said, is he the problem?
Um, I don't think that said, is he the problem?
I don't think that Justin is the problem with what we saw in the first month.
Now Justin, obviously I talked about that. Like he didn't have convict in conviction.
He didn't trust what his eyes were seeing.
I think the unique situation with green or Chicago right now is this.
It's hard to see how Justin feels is their quarterback in 2024.
And I'm a Justin Fields guy.
Like, do we're halfway through the season just about?
He had a month where he didn't play good,
then he had like two or three games
when he started to show it.
And now he's hurt.
How long is he gonna be out?
I just think with where they're trending draft slot wise
as well.
Now, hopefully I'm wrong, but I think that this is why I was so bullish on Justin, like,
dude, if you took Justin Fields and you put him in Philadelphia, he's playing, I don't
know if he's playing MVP the way that Jalen did, but he's playing in a way we're talking
about him being like, oh my gosh, dude, this dude's a weapon and you can use him in so many
different ways.
They just didn't do that until like the fourth game this season.
So I think
it's going to be tough for Chicago unless something changes over the next two months to sit
there and go pound the table. No questions asked Justin's going to be the guy just because
how disappointing the first six or seven weeks is bone. I always see a cycle with quarterbacks
like Justin Fields. Maybe you can tell me if I'm reading into this too much, but they get into
the league and they start to make some plays with their feet, right?
He's a tremendous running threat.
So it makes him, makes some plays with his feet, whether or not it's a designed run or he scrambles out of the pocket.
He starts playing really well, doing crazy stuff, everyone loves him.
And then going into the next year, they say, well, we want him to be around for a while.
So we're going to make sure that he turns into a pocket passer and then he lose all the good stuff that he was doing.
Initially that made him so much more of a threat, including, you know, like it opens up a lot of stuff. So we're gonna make sure that he turns us to a pocket passer and then he'll lose all the good stuff that he was doing
Initially that made him so much more of a threat including you know, like it opens up a lot of stuff If you have a quarterback that's doing his design runs it opens up stuff in not only the running game
But also the passing game that you can do and so then they try to dial it back and then they realize oh, yeah
Remember when he was really good. Let's get back to doing that really good stuff
And it's like a never ending cycle with some of these great quarterbacks that are dynamic with their legs.
Is it my way out of balance? I think that that's what's happening.
Not at all. And that's kind of like the beauty of what we're seeing a little bit of Baltimore
right now is like Baltimore hasn't taken that away from the Mar. They still run the
Mar. Now it's not nearly as much as they did early on. And so I always say this way, like,
are they good enough or do they have a skill set that they can thrive or survive in the NFL as young players?
Like you're just trying to survive as a quarterback and just and obviously did that.
Then can those skills be used to allow them to thrive?
I just don't think that was the case.
Like I just did something for Buffalo.
They're asking, well, do they need to run Josh?
Josh Allen a little bit more because the offense has been a little stagnant.
It's always a fascinating like individual
kind of perception. Jalen Hertz is not running nearly as much in Philadelphia as this year.
I say it this way, dude, if you're going to take those guys and part of the reason why you're
going to take them and draft them and then pay them is because of that skill set, then you have
to let them use it. And maybe it's not all the time as much as they did when they were younger and
you invest that finance in them. But dude, at some point you have to let LeB it. And maybe it's not all the time or as much as they did when they were younger and you invest that finance in them.
But dude, at some point you have to let LeBron go to the rim.
Like at some point you have to let
what those guys do best be what they do best.
Yeah.
You save it forever.
You're like, well, we waste it.
So all right.
So you did something on Josh Allen in the bills.
What is wrong with the bills?
Because we obviously love Josh Allen's friend of ours.
We every time the bills lose, we get a million treats being like, say Josh Allen stinks, I do
not think he stinks.
It's crazy to say he stinks.
But it also is crazy to ignore the fact that there's something wrong with their offense.
And it probably has been kind of wrong for the back half of last year and this year.
Yeah.
I think Josh is an absolute superstar.
Um, I, and I'm a huge fan of like him as a player.
We got the golf together this year.
He hit me with Buffalo like 19 times.
Uh, so that was a good time.
I think like with, with Josh and Buffalo's offense, it is one of those things where
there are moments when they play and he plays as good as you can.
And it is a little bit when they, when he pulls himself back, you know,
when we sat with Brandon, being last year, he's like, I gotta, I gotta get Josh from stop,
to stop being so competitive.
I gotta curb his competitiveness.
But what makes him great is that in part, you know, that I can make any plays.
Reminds me of Stafford when, when I was with Matthew when he was younger.
So it's like, there's moments when Josh plays,
you know, I always say like, dude, at some point you have to play the way the defense is going to
ask you to play. Like, no matter how talented you are, Patrick is the best at doing it in that
capacity right now. Sometimes Josh, like, I just did a, you know, New England blitzed him a ton,
and Josh was like, instead of throwing the hot rod, I'm just going to run around and make a play.
Well, when you play against really
well coach defenses, they don't want you to do that. And so I think that's part of it.
I do think that they put need to put them under center and go play action way more.
They just don't. And I think like the diversity of their past game is a little bit too stiff
centric. You know, it's like Steph, run a cool route down field. I'd like to see more
Gabe Davis and crossing routes and some of that three layered throws that they don't
do enough of.
All right. So off of that, why the hell do quarterbacks, not go under center anymore?
Is it concert? Is it comfort? Is it like college scheme? Like, yeah, college scheme's
like, what is it because it does feel like they're just handicapping themselves by not giving
the defense multiple looks? Yeah. I totally agree. I think one of it is lazy coaching. If I'm just being transparent,
like you can't run RPOs from center, right from under center. And RPOs are basically like
cheat plays in my eyes with football. It's like you don't have to as a play car, you feel
like you don't have to make the perfect play call because in so many ways the play is it's almost
impossible to defend consistently, especially if you got man beating concepts that's you know you play
man you could stop our POs and then teams have designed man beating concepts, but I feel like with
our POs the coach could always be like well you should have just handed it off or you should have
pulled it through it or you know and so I think that because of the obsession with our POs we don't
go into center nearly as much.
I do think the quick passing game and the desire for coaches because the offensive
line plays not nearly as good as it was, you know, 15, 20 years ago.
So I think they try to cover it up with a quick passing game.
I also think this like a lot of coaches don't know how to teach it.
Like a lot of coaches don't know how to teach a drop back pass game from under center
or a play action pass game, you know, because a seven step drop from drop back is a nine
step or an eight step drop from under center.
Can you time it up and teach it and all that?
I don't know how many coaches have like a like a like a really masters degree or PhD
in teaching it.
That's crazy. I mean, it's not just to see it like kind of basically be taken out of the game totally.
It's I hate it.
I think it hurts everybody too.
I don't think it hurts just quarterbacks.
I think it hurts offense and lineman.
I think it hurts wide receivers.
I think it hurts running backs.
Like I think it hurts everybody.
And I wish that teams did it more like if you look really good offense,
just take Patrick out because he's a freak.
You know, if you look at the really good offenses in the league, it more like if you look really good offense is take Patrick out because he's a freak.
You know, if you look at the really good offenses in the league, it's like, well, does Miami do it?
Not much, but because Miami's offense is so unique with Tyreeks speed and Jalen speed, but like Buffalo for a month, they were the best offense in the NFL.
They were doing it a ton.
Baltimore is doing it more right now.
Cleveland does it a good amount.
Jacksonville does it a good amount Jacksonville does it a good amount Philadelphia does it a little bit but their RPO game because their offensive
line is so centric Detroit does it a ton Minnesota just put on a clinic on Monday night
to do it Atlanta does it a ton so San Francisco does it a ton Seattle does it a ton yeah
I was a good offense I want to go down South real quick to New Orleans.
I'm going to make two points here.
I think that Derek Carr is not nearly as good as it used to be.
I think that he's suffering from something.
I don't know if it's injuries that have mounted up.
He doesn't, he doesn't look like the same playmaker that he used to be.
And also the offense under a car Michael doesn't look great overall.
Is it time for James Winston? Um, I don't know if it's time yet, but the fact that it's
become a conversation and a fair one is probably the biggest issue. So the dear car thing
for me is interesting. I've always been a car guy. I've always thought he was better than
people thought two things. When we, this was something that's, I guess I didn't think
about it in the moment, but
I think about it now, especially after last week's game. He said he'd chosen the Orleans
in part because of the defense. So he's like, I like, I, I, I, every quarterback that wins
Super Bowl, it's because they have a great defense. And I think part of that, if you watch
him play, he's thinking, I have a great defense. So I don't need to be aggressive with the ball.
I just check it down. Don't make a bad play. It's almost like watching a rookie play where it's like you're scared to
Whatever the word is scared hesitant you're so timid to throw the ball down field and push the ball down field and be aggressive with it
I mean, there's some plays against Jacksonville where the receivers are three or four yards down field
Derek's already throwing the check down to Camara like we, we're not even trying to let the play develop.
And I don't know if that's because he has such belief
in that defense.
Why things really good as well.
And their offensive line hasn't been great this year,
but they got to get it figured out for sure,
because like those skill position players
are so much better than their begin being given the chance
to be.
I think just Derek needs to
again, like say screw it, dude. I'm just gonna throw it. You know, I'm gonna be way more aggressive with the football and believe that if I give it away, the defense is good enough. Yeah, I've
noticed a trend with us in both the Taylor Heinecke conversation and also us wanting James
Winston to play. Like when it's somebody else's team, it's like we're renting a car. It's like
yeah, we want to we want to just take their their nice toy out for a little run because it's so much fun to watch.
James Winston play, but we don't have to like actually root for him as our
starting quarterback all the time.
Yes, but he would be so much more fun.
They're going with a safety pick right now with car.
I would like to see there be just a full dose of James at least for one
weekend. Just let him.
Yeah, I don't disagree.
I just think they got to get there to be like there.
Cut it loose, man.
I get stopped playing.
So, so has a tin.
So timid and just trust what your eyes are telling you.
Because right now, telling you there's plays, you don't even see his eyes look down
feel these.
She's just looking for Camarita.
Check it down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
You said something there that you thought Derek car was better than people said.
There's a tough question.
Who's worse than people say?
Who's not, who is not as good of a player as what
people say. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's put me on the spot. It's a tough question.
I'll start Russell Wilson. Yeah. Russell Russell's been fine this year, but he ain't Russell
Wilson anymore. I think that's okay for us to say now. You know, like it's the the play
just it doesn't warrant big time quarterback play. Yeah, and it's been it's going to go down as the worst trade in NFL
Asia does unless something drastically changes. When did when did Russell cross that line from being Russell Wilson to no longer Russell Wilson?
Because I it's easy to say when he started playing for the Broncos, but there's some people that it was like the last year, the last two years in Seattle.
He broke his hand. Yeah, yeah, that last. Remember with the money night football, the two minute drill on grass on,
on, yeah.
Kind of like that timeframe because I think so it's 23 22 20.
His 2020 year was unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His 21 year, uh, when he went through a little bit of the injury stuff and started to play
really poorly on the back half of it, that's kind of when he started to fall off.
For sure.
So this is, you know, almost two seasons, two full seasons of bad ball,
you know, pretty, pretty pedestrian ball.
Um, so I think him, um, you know, this is a disappointing guy for me.
I was so high on Kyler Murray coming out of college.
I know he's in play this year, but Kyler Murray just with the way he's played
and kind of the way that things have been I guess handled
He's he's not been nearly as good as I thought
I'm a big big guys. Yeah, I put you on the spot. Oh, you don't love
He's stings he stings. That's a good point. He's been disappointing
You know, like I said,
Brock Pertie, you know, like I was on TV and I said, if Mac Jones is in
San Francisco, we'd play like Brock Pertie and everyone was like, you're the worst
person in the world. I think Brock Pertie's a good player and he's played elite
level football. But like we have to stop thinking that every quarterback can
just like it when they're in a great place and they got great people around them,
they can still be elite producers and playing at an elite level without being an elite player
individually of themselves. So, you know, I don't know if Brock is as lights out as, you know,
Patrick Mahomes would be in that office. Brock is a perfect, I love Brock for the discourse
because he every game, it's going to be basically like he's a
We've fallen into this we called him a top 10 quarterback. He was playing like a top 10 quarterback in the first
I can go off right right
But then he obviously has had a little bit of a blip here in the last two games and now it's like see he stinks
Obviously the truth somewhere in the middle, but right Brock party like what was it is easy as like Trent Williams is out in debos out
And that's the difference like you can see that it when he doesn't have the full arsenal of superstars because the Niners are superstars
They have a superstar roster. Yeah, I mean outside of like three guys on planet earth most guys need really good players around them to be
Awesome quarterbacks. It's just the reality of the business.
So again, everyone like you guys probably know, like everyone says,
I like every quarterback and whatnot.
I actually thought Brock played pretty good on Monday night
outside of the last like six minutes.
And even like his interception, the first interception,
that's a throw that he made three times in that game.
He just throws it so early,
which is one of the things he does well.
He just threw it too early
and the receiver never got to the ball.
Now it's a pick,
but you don't sit there and go like,
gosh, that's such a bad throw, Brock,
or you can't throw that ball to that player.
He's thrown it to the right place.
He just throws it so early that the receiver never gets to it.
Now, would that have been Debo instead of Jennings?
I would think so,
so I don't know.
And then the second interception, dude,
there's like 20 seconds on the clock or 28 seconds,
he needs to find a way to get 25 or 30 yards.
He's just finding a way to get a chunk.
So I actually thought outside of really like that last
interception, even those two interceptions,
I don't sit there and go, ugh, those are awful.
I thought he'd play good.
So I just think he's a good player.
I don't think that we could sit here right now and say like Brock Purti, give him 200 million bucks and we're good. Right I just think he's a good player. I don't I don't think that we consider it right now and say like Brock
Purti give him 200 million bucks and we're good.
Right. Right. Here's fair.
Here's another trick question for you.
There's no chance you could have prepared for this one.
Give us a list of your five quarterbacks right now who are perfectly average.
The most who are the most mid quarterbacks in the NFL.
Guys who like you don't really know where they are as quarterbacks?
So
Yeah, I'd be curious to hear that because I've always put Kirk cousins in that conversation right now actually I've playing right he's playing great
Kirk cousins is definitely Troy Acman said he was playing like a top 10 quarterback
I actually I think I agree with Troy Acman on that one
I think he is playing like a top 10 guy
But if we're listing the the middle five quarterbacks in the NFL who you got
Yeah, so I've always said like there's like six guys that are like scheme independent people independent more often not like and then there's this group like eight dudes who
If they've got the right play caller and you know the good defense and the right support people meeting tight ends
Barbara sees all that stuff like don't play like a top 10 quarterback. I'll give you the guys that I think are in that world.
Like, okay, that mid grouping type of thing.
I love the phrasing.
It's not bad thing.
It's not bad thing to be admitted.
It just means you got to have a decent team around.
I love mids.
Yeah.
Oh, that's okay.
Number one, deck press got for sure.
Yep.
Yep.
Number two.
Here, Jared golf.
No, that's wrong. You're an idiot. You don't want to tape. You're over got for sure. Yep. Yep. Uh, number two. Here, Jared golf. No, that's wrong.
You're an idiot.
You don't want to tape.
You're over one for two.
Kurt Cousins for sure.
Okay.
Um, Baker Mayfield.
Yeah.
Uh, uh, and Geno Smith.
Yeah.
This would be my top five guys that are like, again, I think that those guys could play
as high as like a top seven, top eight, top nine quarterback. Or if, you know, my tackles out and my number one receiver's not there,
I might play as a top 12 or top 13, dude.
Okay.
What I love about that is that you listed, Dak Prescott as your number one, most mid quarterback
in a NFL.
That just confirms everything we said.
That's going to, that, that makes me feel good.
And it also makes me feel good knowing that we can put that on a quote card
and then everyone's gonna get so mad at you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that one, that one, make sure we put it on social and it'll go over well.
Well, the genesis of this show is essentially like, as long as we can get a couple answers right,
we'll never show our work.
Like, you know, remember when you were in like middle school and you're like looking at the back of the book for the math answers
and you just scribble some stuff, like like I don't know how I got this answer
But I got it. I got the Dak press got his mid so
We I got a son like that right now. I got six grades son like that like dude. How did you get this?
I don't know. I just did right right so wait I feel good to be confirmed with that all right
Another question about the league right now outside of the usual suspects
So let's take out the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan.
Let's take out what the Lions are doing.
Let's take out what the dolphins are doing.
Who's running the most creative stuff on offense
that we wouldn't expect?
Where you watch the tape and you're like,
these guys are doing something that no one else is doing
and they're doing it really well.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, so first of all, Cleveland.
Okay.
I think Cleveland with the way that they do like some of their
Play action game and then also their screen game is awesome. I'm a huge Stefansky guy
Doug Peterson. Yep. You know with Jacksonville one the way that they use Christian Kirk and Travis ETN too with their multiple tight ends
Houston for sure like Houston
two with their multiple tight ends Houston for sure. Like Houston with Bobby slow way coming from the Shanahan stuff. Big time. Dude, I have to, can I put Andy Readin? Can I get
it? Sure. No, you could put Andy Read because we were saying the Andy Readin, the chiefs
have reached final form of the Patriots with the bringing back me Cole Harman and having
him be good right away. And then also the fact that they are like it felt like overnight. They have a really good defense and pattern homes isn't throwing
these like home run balls anymore. He's beating people a completely different way. And
that's the true test of a dynasty where it's like they've transformed in front of our eyes
to a completely different team. And it just equals wins as always.
Yeah, totally. Oh, before I go to the NFC, NFC, I'm also going to do
stage dyke and an indie. But here's the dumbest thing that I see with Kansas
city right now. I saw it for the past couple of weeks. They're doing so
it's unique. No one in the NFL is doing it where they are like doing
unbelievable stuff to defensive lines with certain protections.
Dude, there's clips against the chargers where they had defensive ends running to the sideline.
Literally running to the sideline and both tackles are running out to the sideline with them.
Stay behind a line of scrimmage and Patrick's just set up behind a guard,
launching a 40-yard cross here to Travis Kelsey. They got defensive line and just because of the way
that they're moving people out the snap and ballfakes and whatnot.
I think that's the really interesting thing with Kansas City is like Andy Reid's been like,
I don't have dominant receivers, but I'll just make defensive lineman look completely stupid.
I mentioned Stikin, oh, Ben Johnson for sure in Detroit.
Ben Johnson's probably at the top of the list with his creativity to play action game.
I thought O'Connor was great on Monday night again.
I'm a huge Shane Waldron fan in Seattle.
I think he's unreal with the stuff that he does
with launch points in Geno and whatnot.
So in McVey, I'm obviously a huge fan of.
Yeah.
It's interesting with Kansas City that Travis Kelsey
is able to get so open in the middle of the field all the time.
And it's something like, do you know how far back this goes?
It happens every single year. Every single game it feels like where he'll just put up break off these
like 80 yard catches because he sits down in zone coverage and my home finds him. Is there
a way to get that to stop? How do you how do you protect against something like that right
in the middle of the field? I think it's hard to protect against it because I don't know
if like again, this is a little I don't know if patch or your Travis actually runs routes
I
I think like Travis knows
What the play call is and like where guys are supposed to be and he just runs to where the defense can't you know get to where he knows
Where the defense is gonna go and he's like oh, I'm supposed to run a corner route here and it's covered three and
I know that the safety is gonna be so instead to run a corner out here and it's covered three and I know that the safety is going to be so instead of running a corner
I'm just going to like run to the hash and sit down and Patrick sees it the same way. I honestly think they just don't run routes
I just they chased grass almost. It's almost like watching like a like a old school
Run and gun like college football team. So is there a way to stop it?
Dude, I think I've seen that once maybe realistically since the night in the day, I've said titled
again two, two years ago, like that shut them down.
I know Tampa didn't deserve both.
That was more deline stuff.
So I just think his, his understanding of football is so unique that like, it's almost
impossible to cover him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just runs the open space.
It's fantastic. I would love that. Even if He's not supposed to. Right. And then he knows
like, okay, there might be open space, but he's got another receiver coming there. So he might go
to where that receiver actually is leaving from because there's going to be more like, I just think
he's super, super smart. It's incredible. Yeah, I mean, they had, they just broke. We were saying
on Monday show, but the chiefs, I think in the fourth quarter, they had a incompletion of Travis
Kelsey, but a broken streak that Patrick and Holmes had thrown 29 straight passes
to Travis Kelsey that were a completion, which is insane.
Did he had a, they had a play against Chicago actually this year where Travis 100% does
not run the route that he's supposed to run.
I saw that.
Yeah, they talking about it, Mike, up after two.
Yeah. And Patrick throws it before he actually doesn't run the route that he's supposed to run. I saw that. Yeah, they talking about it, Mike, up after two. Yeah.
And Patrick throws it before he actually doesn't run the right route.
Yeah.
He's about to run the wrong route.
And Patrick's throwing it and you're sitting there going, how does Patrick know that he's
not going to run the right route?
He's going to run the wrong route, but at the right time, it's, it's wild.
It was, it was a crazy clip because obviously just, I mean, the bears just look stupid in
that game and they look stupid overall
But they on the sideline Patrick said he was like I knew you were gonna run that route that wasn't called
He's like I like they were talking about it and laughing about it
So they played that's possible to cover man. Yeah, they break rules. Yeah
All right, so I want to talk a little bit about your career Dan
We'll get to the blog
Which we have some questions about the blog.
But was the most important thing that happened in your entire career, Matthew
Stafford winning a Super Bowl?
The two things, two things, I think.
Okay.
In 2019, when I took a very hard stance,
when's versus Prescott and when's like, let them to the playoffs,
they were decimated with injuries. And I was like, he's the better quarterback.
That happened.
I did that whole garbage bag routine.
I was still kind of young in this in the business.
So that was a huge one.
Oh, you know, maybe three when Tampa won the Super Bowl,
because when Tom signed, I was like, Super Bowl done and everyone's a
guaranteed it.
And then when staffer won the Super Bowl for sure, yeah, sure.
Cause that was, I mean, you were, you are the number one staffer defender.
And it was lazy, but we could all be like, well, look, it's a lion stink every year.
And then he goes to the Rams, wins a Super Bowl.
It's like, well, Dan Erlowski was right the entire time.
Huh.
I got lucky a little bit on that one.
I remember some playoff games.
Dude, I was just, honestly, I felt it. I wasn't just saying bit on that one. I remember some playoff games. Dude, I was just,
honestly, I felt that I wasn't just saying it, saying it. I honestly believed that he was so dumb talented. And I knew how good Sean was because I was with Sean, you know, his first year in LA and
with Jared. And I knew how smart Sean was. And I knew like once Sean got a hold of Matthew,
he would become so much better than anyone ever thought.
So, and I got a little lucky with the way some of those games ended,
but for sure, I just knew Matthew was so good.
Yeah, you also had some hold over Carson Wentz takes,
which affected me personally and a lot of other people out there
who have families and friends that might have experienced Carson Wentz
as their starting quarterback.
Because you were right about your Carson Wentz over Press got take,
I think you held on to that for a while. And you I think to be honest with you
to this day, you still think that Carson wins could be an elite NFL quarterback, even though
he's not playing all all evidence to the contrary, you will ignore. You think that Carson
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be. But he's too much of, I guess, like a unique personality, maybe a weirdo head case,
whatever people want to call him. That's sort of the thing that I know, but I still thought
he was so talented, man, I really do. But not I'm I'm past playing him in the MVP conversation.
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All right, here's a question that don't take offense to it
because I actually mean this genuinely,
a lot of people see backup quarterbacks
and they're like, that guy stinks.
And why don't they get so and so starter
that started for so long in the NFL,
he'd be a better backup. I think backup quarterbacking is a very hard job and it takes the correct
temperament and people don't give it enough credit. You're backup quarterback for 12 years in the
NFL. What is it about being a backup quarterback that people get wrong consistently? Yeah.
Couple things. Number one, you're still ridiculously talented, right? There's 65 people on the planet that have that job just about so you're still I would say I like most backup quarterbacks
are just as talented as the
12 to 32 starter
They just can't do what those guys do as
consistently or you know like maybe they do it two or
10, so for three, 10, so the second slower than the starter does.
And that's the difference of this guy makes 90% of the plays versus this guy
makes 80% of the plays.
So I think that, I think the second thing is like, dude, it's so hard to keep
your job when you get such a little opportunity to
prove your worth.
Yeah.
And like everybody else on the team is to play.
And so like, you know, well, you're, you're not good or you're not deserving of this
job.
Well, I just had eight tackles on special teams.
So you don't know what you're talking about.
But like for the back of quarterback, it's like, I gave 47 high fives and nine thumbs up.
You know, like your performance doesn't really matter because you don't get the opportunity so like
Trying to prove
Worthiness of that spot on a daily basis is is a huge challenge, and I think
That's one of the things that like minimize some guys careers because they either think that they're better than they actually are like the best thing
That happened to me dude was when the NFL told me you're a backup quarterback, you know, and like at some point
You just got to accept it, you know,
and then you could have the career.
And then I think the third thing,
is like, do you gotta be so good in the locker room,
because the locker room doesn't like you
or doesn't get along with you
or you don't fit it or impact it.
Like, they'll just get ready and get someone else.
So, but I think the biggest thing is like,
the talent, you're still super, super super super talented. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
It's it's yeah being a backup quarterback. I think would be like a dream job for me
If you back up too far though, then you get to the third spot being a third string quarterback
I feel like you go to work every day feeling like you might not get in the office that day
Yeah, like they may have changed your key card. What's were you ever a third stringer? I
Was like because when I got into league they still had three right like they still you changed your key card. What's, were you ever a third stringer? I was like, because when I got into league, they still had three, right?
Like they still, you know, had three.
We all dress.
I was a third stringer my first year.
I think like two or three years, I was a third stringer.
I think it was my first year, maybe my third year.
We had Josh McCowne, Kitna, JTO Sullivan, Stanton.
So I think like two or three years, you know, we brought you up a couple of weeks ago
because we wanted to, I should have relayed this to you
at the time.
I should have hit you with a DM,
but you need to rebrand yourself.
Everyone's like, oh, Dan Arlowski runs out of the back
of the end zone, which is maybe the funniest
playing NFL history.
Wadniti, that's what people say.
I didn't say that.
You, do you know that you are the second against the spread
quarterback, best against the spread quarterback for the Detroit lines? You're six and one against
the spread as a starter for the Detroit Lions. You need to go around and tell everyone
that like six and one. You played on a bad team.
I'm requesting this clip for social media so I can post it. Make sure you put it. We'll
put it in the part about what people say about how stupid you looked against
a virus.
We could skip over that.
Yeah.
No, we could, we could skip over that.
We could just do the spread.
Uh, six and one.
I didn't know that.
That's good money.
Dude, we were on, we were unreal, uh, versus the spreading college too.
Like, we used to have dudes coming up to Zaltan, like, paid for my party in this weekend
when I was at Yukon.
So maybe history of good to spread.
Yeah, I got a gamble.
Yeah, maybe you're the best against spread.
So when people put that clip online,
I feel like you've had a good, good humor about it now,
but did it bother you for a while?
Because it is the dumbest play in NFL history.
There's no question.
It still bothers me.
Like it still bothers me.
You know, like, yeah, like not to a point where, There's no question. It still bothers me. Like it still bothers me.
You know, like, yeah, like not to a point where I guess maybe bothers like I still sit there.
I can be like, guys, it's 15 years ago.
Like everybody in the world that has any attention to the NFL has seen that play.
I mean, also like I'm so often watching again right now.
Yeah, just pulled up maybe add to the get it over 10 million views. There
might be like, it might be 10, 10% of our audience hasn't seen it yet. And I want to make
sure they see it's the amount of steps you took out of bounds. I think is what it is.
Because guys will, guys will step out of bounds and you will rightfully sell like you'll
start trending and you'll be like vindication. But have you guys ever heard the story of
when I got to the sideline? I've shared that no tell it to us
Yeah, so obviously the play happens get to the sideline and again like I take a long journey because I'm out of balance
What was that I get to the sideline and I'm having the thoughts in my head
I'm like, yo, you are an f-ing idiot dude like that was as bad as it gets and I look up and
Calvin Johnson and you remember war Williams the receipt of Texas. Yes.
They look at me and die laughing just burst out laughing and they just they just can't
contain themselves.
So in that moment, I was like, all right, that makes me feel just a little bit better
that they just could not control their their laughter.
I'm terrible.
I'm kidding right now.
You took 12 steps out of the back.
You did an entire recovery process.
I imagine what like what when you woke up the next morning, we were like, ah, no,
there was a lot of NFL Sunday. Like no one's going to remember that.
You're like the guy you're like Steve Krell from 40 year old virgin when he's like,
those guys are cool. They won't bring that up again.
The best. I think I was like social media wasn't as big back then as it is now,
obviously. Um, I think the difference is Gardner did it a couple weeks ago,
and they won, we did it, and I did it, we lost by two.
So in 0 and 16 season, so like that,
that one makes it stick just a little bit longer.
It's got staying power because of that.
You do like to welcome people to the club though,
because with Gardner did it, you were like,
hey Gardner, it's not so bad.
And then Jimmy G did it a couple years ago.
And you're like, actually, the end Gardner.
The end Gardner, welcome to the club. I haven actually, the end gardener, I DMed gardener.
Welcome to the club.
I haven't got anything back from them, which is just a point.
Not necessarily club.
We want to be in wait.
Did they wait on Monday or Tuesday when they did film study?
Did they pull it up and they're like, Hey, you see those white lines?
Like that's out of bounds.
I don't remember, dude.
I do because like we were o and four, o and five.
That was like a contentious time because they had just like put John Kittna on IR
for like challenging our coaches in a meeting.
So that was like a weird time.
So there was no laughter had in that building, man.
Yeah. No laughter.
Yeah, I want to ask you about that season.
It's interesting you brought up Kittna
and getting put on IR for challenging coaches though.
I want to talk about that a little bit.
Like was they put him on injured reserve
because he was like, hey, what we're doing?
Is it working?
No, this is what happened.
We were playing San Francisco and Kitna gets pressure
and he like runs.
He's playing court runs and like instead of trying to get
outside of the pocket and running away
from three defenders, he like runs up into what he thinks
is a scene and gets like a yard. And our coaches are like, well, John, what are you doing?
And he's like, what do you mean? This isn't a team meeting because they got into the point where like,
we watched the game as a team so they could tell us how much we sucked in front of the whole team and
not just the offense. And Kitten is like, what are you talking about? They're like, the running lane
is outside here. He's like, I'm scrambling from pressure. And they're like, the running lane is outside here.
He's like, I'm scrambling from pressure.
And they're like, well, you should get here.
And so Kittna lost it.
He was like, fine, fine.
You guys, what from now on,
instead of me doing quarterback drills,
I'll come run with the running back
so I can learn where the holes are after that.
It was like, hey, he's going to be on IR
and then he was done for the year.
So that was like the first game after that had happened. It was it was downhill. That's crazy
I think that you've done a pretty good job trying to rebrand yourself is not being the back of the in zone guy
To just being the guy with maybe the worst and weirdest food takes and just takes in general
Online and it's almost like you're a glutton. Oh, it's not football takes no, no, I'm talking about like off the field stuff off the field
There's a lot of red flags
when it comes to big.
Big Topsky.
You would not pass our, if we were at the combine
and we had to interview with you,
we'd be like, not trapped in that weirdo.
No, so you're weird, dude.
I'm super weird.
Yeah, and I love that you own it.
I love that you're like, yes,
I have very strange taste, very peculiar food taste.
I know that you eat like raw chicken,
you don't put salt and pepper or seasoning on your chicken.
Is that true?
I certainly don't eat raw chicken,
but I cook it for as,
I'm not trying to puke,
but I eat super plain chicken for sure.
Like, I'll just go down to the cafeteria here at ESPN
and I'll get cube chicken and just eat it by itself,
grilled chicken.
Yeah, I also heard from a credible source
that you were in college
when you found out that eggs came from chickens.
Is that true?
No.
Who is this person spreading this ridiculous rumor?
Because I had someone text to me about that last week.
Is it someone texting me about it last week and I was like, no, that's not, I'm not that dumb.
There's somebody that I think people trust that is spreading that rumor about you.
That's you should own it, dude.
You clearly didn't know that it's okay.
It's okay, like we all learn stuff in college.
I mean, listen, I'm not telling you that for sure,
I didn't say that, I don't recall saying that.
Now we're back in up a little bit.
That's a common problem for you.
We'll share, okay?
Up until maybe I was like 12 years old,
I thought testicles were actual play dough in your ball sack.
So look, we had dumb thoughts. You thought thought I don't ever pretend to be like intelligent
So I only just say like I know football. It's it. All right. So wait you also know I don't know
Did anyone send the clip to you or do you listen when we did a reading of your blog?
Of course they did okay. What did you think four ways to avoid temptation went on the road?
Uh, it was a great blog.
Focus on knowing you're gonna.
I know this is so, guys.
Focus on saying.
You guys got the honest answer here?
Yeah, it was, I mean, it was an all-time blog.
It was, it was,
because what, we'll tell you what we took away from it.
And then you can, you can get up.
Well, we took away as that Dan Erlovsky is so horny
that he can trust himself in a room alone with him.
He has to be surrounded by dudes at all times otherwise he's just jacking off.
Yeah, you have to watch football otherwise you'll just be ejaculating everywhere.
I mean, there's probably some truth to that.
The honest answer, because I knew this was so my dead ass honest answer, maybe not perfect
for the show is,
I come from a broken family, okay?
Oh, I'm not the same.
I'm not the same.
I'm not the same.
I'm not the same.
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I'm not the same. I'm not the same. I'm not the same. I'm not the same. I'm just gonna one time and obviously that stuff's going to lead to, you know, mommy and daddy breaking up
So I try to avoid situations that might make a bad decision
You just forced shame dust. That's fucked up
Yeah, you know, you guys open the doors. Wait you that's actually incredible because you could have you could have played that card on us
When we did the reading you just waited for the day where like I know this is gonna come up
And I'm gonna just fucking hit him with the uno reverse and make them feel like shit heads. Yeah
to come up and I'm gonna just fucking hit him with the Uno reverse and make them feel like shit heads.
Yeah, you're real son of a bitch.
You've been hanging on with that one.
You're just fucking.
There was one part of the blog where you said when I say I'm in a group, you're talking
about not being alone with women.
You said when you're in a group, I mean a group.
John Kitten taught me to never be one-on-one with a female.
John Kitten taught me to never be one on one with a female. John Kitten taught you that?
That was something that I learned with with my time in Detroit. The weird thing is like, I'm one on one with people with I
I do have moments when I'm in a room with a girl.
Oh, that's a cool card right there. That's hot.
Say me to me to Dan. Dan, honestly.
I know you got down like that.
It's pretty cool being alone in a room with a check.
It's crazy, it's crazy.
It's not for everybody, but I'm able to manage it, man.
Oh, well it's a good blog.
Listen, here's what I'll say is that I know I can tell just the way you're following
you on social media, you are a great dad and I respect the hell out of that.
So like that's, you know, I appreciate it.
Yeah, that's the most dude, like coming from,
again, not trying to bash my dad or whatnot,
but like coming from the childhood,
that's like the thing that for sure was,
after our chief football was like,
I just want to be a really, really good dad
and I know that I can't be if I'm going to do stupid stuff
or make stupid choices when it comes to that stuff.
See, this is why we should never have had you on.
Yeah, fuck me.
You just took away so much material from us.
And this is what happens.
We have guests on all the time,
and everyone just comes away.
We love this guy.
Like, why did you,
we might have to delete this whole interview.
Yeah, I can give you some advice though.
You know what I do?
I just send out a weird tweet if you want me to.
Where you got it.
I got like three minutes and then I got a good answer.
You just be yourself. We know the weird treats will come you'll be like oh does anyone ever like not wipe?
Well, yeah, that's the one thing I wanted to talk about here with you was there was another tweet that you had where you talked about
How how many days is it acceptable to go without showering when you're on vacation and you have a pool and then parentheses saltwater pool
That you go into every day
So you tweeted that out you thought it was two to three days
Turns out a lot of people disagreed with you and thought that was disgusting and then you deleted that tweet
Shortly thereafter, so can you walk us through did you have a change of heart? Why did you delete that?
No, literally because what happened was a friend of ours
No, literally because what happened was a friend of ours
copied the the tweet and sent it to a group text that I'm in with like me my buddy his wife my wife and
Like question mark to my wife looked at me This was like a week after maybe a month after the whole towel thing that people made a too big a deal about as well
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and I'll clean your shower or I don't clean your towels
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I'll give you this when I'll take it down
because I wanted to, you know,
my wife to still be willing to sleep with me.
So, yeah.
That's smart.
But between me and you, you would go
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Number one pizza is colony grilled. Yes. Yeah colony grow no questions asked in fairfield though
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Modern number four pepies not a massive pepies guy. Wow. All right. So I, I, I stumbled upon colony girl like six years ago and like it is the best
pizza in the world. I know sausage is the best. I wish I could recreate it. I like have a dream of
letting, you know, if colony girl letting me like open a pizza place in Chicago that just replicates
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Maybe I'm the one who's got it all together and everyone else is just screwed up. No, I don't think so, dude. We read that blog post
All right, well Dan. We'll do this again. It had been too long first guest in the new studio part apart my take history
Thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
You guys are the best.
Appreciate you, boys.
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A little probably.
That'd be funny. Yeah. Exploding,, pretty hard. Yeah. Although probably, that'd be funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exploit, it's always great when they do the exploding golf ball
on the gender reveal golf balls.
It's like, wait, what the hell?
I like when they just give them regular golf balls.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's what it is.
I'm stupid.
Yes.
And you can always say, like, that would have been a whole one.
Like, this guy was like, that was my best swing of the day.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I had tickets to see Shane Gillis.
I checked my tickets on Monday to see when the show started and found out that the show
was this past Saturday, October 21st, not this upcoming Saturday, Saturday, October 28th.
So I'm out of solid, $350.
Don't get to see Shane Gillis and my wife is pretty convinced this is my fault.
Well, it is, but also,
at least it wasn't something she wanted to go do.
Yeah. Well, here's what I'll say is that Shane,
who we actually, people are like,
when are you gonna Shane on, when are you gonna Shane on?
We actually have had like a back and forth
where we had to cancel on him once he had to cancel
on us once we are definitely gonna have him on.
We're gonna, I told him many times he wants to come up,
so we're gonna do that.
But I think Shane would say to this,
your wife already knows your an idiot
because you're Shane Gill's fan.
It's like being a fan of our show.
Like if you're an ad-
Like if you're an ad-
Swift concerts, they were going to that show
because he wanted to go see Shane Gill's
and she was like, okay.
Like if you're an AWL,
listen to this right now.
Your wife knows your an idiot
because you listen to us and we're idiots.
Yeah, also you should have had friends
that were going to their show too. You should have been a group thing. Somebody would have caught this, but because it's,
anytime one guy is in charge of his own calendar, he's going to fuck it up. You need like three or
four guys to cross-check all that. Shane does have a funny bit in his stand-up special that just
came out on Netflix, which is very funny. It's called Beautiful Dogs, and he's like, how many
women here are here because your husband
or boyfriend is like, shh, listen this part of the podcast, it's so funny. And it's like
every single woman. So yeah, she's used to it totally.
Hey boys, this past weekend I came to Chicago from Nevada for Raiders Bears and to pop around
the best city in the nation. One guy in a group had to go straight to the airport from
the game. So put the other 14 of us in charge of bringing his bag home with us.
We didn't realize till our Denver layover that no one grabbed his bag, so it's still sitting
in an Airbnb and Wicker Park, biggest jimbo move of the trip by far.
Oh no.
I'm gonna say this is that guy's fault.
You can't, that you are getting out of Dodge quick.
Like that's on you.
Can somebody else bring my bag with you?
And no one like, no one,
everyone brings a carry on like those checking bags.
Here's gonna, you know,
that would be the most,
take an extra bag.
Yeah, that would be the most annoying thing ever
for your friend to be like,
hey, can you make sure you grab my bag,
ship your bag.
I actually don't think it's that big of a deal
because you know where the bag is.
It's not lost.
You just call the Airbnb person to ship it for you
I they're not gonna do that. I'd rather this than it being missing
No, I just like if I'm the Airbnb bag. I'm like, I can't find it. It's not here. Yeah
So I have to shake it. No fuck that. Yeah, that bag's gone. That bag's gone forever
But you you the guy who did that is is the real
He can't be mad at you. Yeah, your friends are not responsible for your bag.
Especially if it wasn't one person,
if he was just like, well, someone take it.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, you gotta sign someone.
Yeah.
So that is that guy's Jimbo.
It's not your friend's Jimbo, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Last one, Sup Fellas, I was listening to the podcast
that work and one of the producers said he worked so hard
during the Fall of Winter that he's going to take
the summer easy.
I worked 10 to 12 hour days year round and figured, hey, I work hard to I should do the same. I went in until my
bosses and she laughed me out of our office while calling me out out of touch
millennial. Ha, she right. Interesting.
Hank, are you an out of touch millennial? I think you are. He just always messed me up.
Yeah, like millennials, zoomers, Gen Z. Oh, you might be. No, you're no, no, no, no,
we're 93. We're the oldest millennials. Yeah. So then Hank could be a millenn Z. Oh, you might be able to. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no We're the old. I don't want anyone born between 1981 and 1996. Okay.
Hank is an out of touch millennium.
Yeah, you are Hank, question about your strategy
in terms of work taking it off all summer.
What is it?
What Friday this summer will we be making up
you missing Sunday?
What do you mean?
Which Friday, which Friday,
where we're gonna pick in July or August,
that you're gonna come to work,
because you're making up the time for NFL Sunday.
I'm sure there'll be like one.
Okay, all right, well, I would like you to declare it
beforehand.
Okay.
Like this is the Friday member October,
whatever it was, 22nd.
This is, I'm working today like it's October 22nd
Fun. Yeah, so you stay here till one in the morning on a Friday. Yeah, and I'll stream because I think that's a full work day
I think I'll weekend. I think it should be July 5th. I think that's the one that you should do
You should pick one where there's weather in the forecast
No forecast. Yeah, there's right right now on the calendar
I'm looking at Jake. There is rain expected for Friday, July 5th
2024. I think Hank should come in for that one. No, this is like this is like NFL flexing schedule
You have to declare it 12 days in advance and just pray that it rains so you don't miss out on golf
Well, that's the beauty this office like just golf here
And straight. Oh, you have to treat it like it was October 22nd where we're in the old studio
So there's nothing to do. Hank should actually have to watch all the football from that day.
Yeah, yeah, you should have to, you will livestream it.
That's a perfect live stream.
We'll get the red zone from that day.
And it works out because the pictures beat the bills.
Yeah, yeah, it's a great day.
Okay.
Are we ready?
Jake, do you have any retractions?
Question mark?
There's a few, so are we making this just retractions
or retractions errors in omissions? I think it should be, well, they're all kind of the same thing.
It should be retractions, but then we get to declare whether or not we actually retract it.
It's retractions question, it's just like,
I just like, add in context.
No, no, no, it's just, did we fuck something up?
Okay.
Uh, no.
Okay, great job.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
We had a few omissions, but-
We picked a perfect game in our first podcast here. That's amazing. That's incredible
Let me let me hear no mission is see if we're gonna do omissions. I don't think I'm down with omissions
Okay, this is a test run
Nick Sabin so in addition to LSU they have to beat they still also have road games
Acton talking at Auburn in the iron not doing omissions not doing omissions and then also
Connor Stallions Venmo to mission recruiting staffer with the caption
GA that they before Georgia play Ohio State and the peach balls. It can mean literally any general mission
All right, retractions only
Oh, mit that all right, you guys ready this lottery ball machine fucking rocks so we're never gonna lose a ball again and
fucking rocks. So we're never gonna lose a ball again. And Andrew Manley, who's one of our tech guys, John Aotech team, they've done a great job. It's been a little bit of a fire alarm,
getting everything set up. He handed me a report and they literally have a report. Every single
ball was weighed and it has to be within a certain amount of weight. So there's no funny business.
Because you can rig the lottery that way.
That's one of the strategies that people have used.
So I have it.
Are we ready?
Are we ready to look?
Here we go.
Let's turn the light on.
So this counts.
We're back to keeping track.
We're going since July 20th.
Officially.
Who's the last official winner?
Me.
They told me to count it. They told me to count it.
They told me to count it.
What color do you guys want?
They told you to count it.
What color do you guys want?
I like that blue.
I like the electric blue.
I like the electric blue.
I'm told you're better than that.
That's my favorite color.
Here we go.
Body armor right there.
That blue.
Three, two, one.
There it is.
Look at this thing.
It's a piece.
That thing looks like a sweet ass bong.
So yeah it does.
We should smoke out of there at some point.
So here's the only question I have to ask you guys.
So it's a little different than the old lottery ball machine in the fact that I hit start.
All the balls go crazy.
And then I have to hit select for it to pick a ball. How much time should I wait for the select?
Five seconds.
Five seconds.
All right.
Are you guys ready?
Numbers.
Hey, have you ever gotten this?
18.
Hank, have you ever gotten this?
I mean, I'm going to 20.
I've never gotten this.
Yeah, but I've listened.
I've listened.
Yeah, actually I did before.
Pity of you.
Yeah, I did.
You just weren't here.
Yeah, you weren't here.
This is actually on Sunday when you were on vacation.
We came back in a red box to be able to.
I'm so excited.
All right, what was your number?
I took 20.
Okay.
69.
Memes, you're gotten this?
Nope.
Max, what's your number?
Three.
18.
What did you guess?
I'm gonna go with 56.
It's going.
That's nice.
It's low bounce.
Oh, it fires up.
So fast.
So fast.
I'm gonna hit the slats, ready?
Oh, 72.
It goes up fast.
Whoa, 72. I think it's stuck. Oh, it's going up there. 72 it goes up fast
72 I think in stock. Oh watch this. Yeah. No, no it drops and watch this then you just drop it
Elise no, oh reset
That sound is crazy. Yeah, should we do one more? Yeah, I'm not gonna I kind of miss like the
Max oh Max so you can make it a few more max prediction for tonight because people are gonna be listening to this part of the show And I want to make sure it's in the lottery ball part
Seven two seven two fillies fillies. Okay, I think I'm back. What no, okay, all right. I just wanted to clarify
All right, there's there's another curse that we have to talk about with baseball. Crucio. What's that?
no team has ever beat
The Brewers and the playoffs and not made it to the World Series. Oh wow. No team has ever beat no team has ever beaten the Phillies in the game seven
That's also true. First ever is crazy. Yeah, not that crazy. They only made the playoffs like I'm crazy
Okay First ever is crazy. Yeah, not that crazy. They only made the playoffs like 13 times crazy Okay
Numbers, hey, you've ever gotten this a 20 have you know of you. Hey, hey, can you ever gotten this three? I have not
Have you can I guess my number why you ask me questions? I ask you after you get your number
Why would you do that? No, you asked me before I just asked you after
Thank you. We were gotten this No, okay, have you 17. I haven't get my number yet 17 three You asked me before I just asked you after I gave you your got this
No, okay, I view 17. I haven't get my number yet 17 3 18 18
16 I don't like what you're doing memes memes you've never gotten any of the lottery ball machine numbers
I'm gonna guess
27 you can see three right there no yeah
What did what just went, 72?
Oh, seven to two, Max.
That's why you did it.
No.
No, that wasn't what I did it,
but I have picked seven to two
for every time you've asked me in baseball.
All right, to me.
Must win.
27 is my number.
This is must win, yes.
Think powering up.
Feel it.
They really fly around. I just want to watch it for a second. You have to look away when you hit the button, though. I don't know, we'll figure that part out. Alright. 31! 31!
So this is the first one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one.
I'm going to have to go to the other one. I'm going to have to'll figure that part out. Alright.
31! 31!
So these are all being documented now, right, Jake?
Yeah, I'm getting the admins apart of my balls.com
where you can track it live.
Okay.
Love it.
Love you guys.
No.
No, no.
I don't feel real good.
I most dope. Everybody please put it in the air.
Hey!
Jo-o-king away.
I don't know what I'm to say.
I've said it anyway.
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Shout it away.
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But so we'll be safe and so be, hey, come here, take me home.
I'll keep on, through the day of training.
Things that we say and you and I love you.
Just play my love reasonably
You're all the things I've got to remember, you shine on
You're all the people in the way, take on me
Take on me Hey, Gummy!
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