Pardon My Take - Packers HC Matt LaFleur, Stetson Bennett & Super Wild Card Weekend

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

We start the show getting ready for a huge football weekend. Pick some fake NFL bowls and talk about the Wild Card Weekend upcoming(00:02:25-00:44:05). Packers Head Coach Matt LaFleur joins the show t...o talk about Green Bay’s season, Aaron Rodgers going to jail/prison, game hypotheticals, and fans getting surly(00:44:05-01:17:45). We then welcome on Georgia QB Stetson Bennett to talk about the National Championship, being Stetson Bennett and tons more(01:17:45-01:36:09). We wrap up with Fyre Fest of the week(01:36:09-01:51:52).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we've got a twofer for the people. We have Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur in their bye week, awesome interview with Coach LaFleur. We also have National Champion starting quarterback for the Georgia Bulldogs, Stetson Bennett on the show. We're going to talk super wild card weekend, a great weekend of sports, a great weekend of football ahead of us. We also have Firefest of the Week and before we get to all of that, Chevy, you know that we are Chevy truck guys. 2021 was a big year for Chevy trucks. The Silverado really made some news and we're not just talking
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Starting point is 00:01:39 So head over to chevy.com, learn more and reserve your Silverado EV today. They're going to go fast. Make sure you check it out. It's going to be awesome. Going to make big time waves. Chevy is the best truck company in the world. Go to chevy.com to learn more and reserve your Silverado EV today. Okay, let's go. Oh, no, we're going to rock it down to electric, I brand new. And then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're going to rock it down to electric. It's part of my take, isn't it by Varsity Sports? Welcome to part of my take presented by Chevy. Go to chevy.com. Check out all the new things that Chevy's got coming this year. Big year for Chevy today is Friday, January 14th.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And we're taping it on January 13th. Happy birthday, Billy. Yeah, Billy, you made it. Billy's getting old. He actually said to me, I was like, happy birthday. How old are you? 24? He's like 23. Damn, you're getting old. He's like, dude, this is so depressing. No, none of it is. Listen, Billy, you can make jokes about Billy's mental maturity, all you want. But he could not have grown that sweet Fu Manchu mustache a year ago today. You're just, you're blossoming into a man, Billy. It's a work in progress. Billy, tell us in your 23 years on planet earth, maybe one little pearl of wisdom for the people, because you are, as you said, old now. So give it to us. What do you got? What's the big thing that you've learned? What's the thing like maybe
Starting point is 00:03:38 year 22, you learned something going into year 23? Exercise is the key to mental well-being. You didn't know that before. You never played sports before last year. I also feel like that was like gym class, like grade five. We said in all 23 years, that's probably my greatest. What did you learn in year 22? Year 22? How to get into war mode. How to lose a negotiation with big cat. Yeah, I did. That was actually facts. Pretend that you have another job offer that's not real, but I'm happy it all has worked out. Growing moments. Yeah. It's been a good year. I feel like you have grown up. I mean, it's crazy that we've known you since you were, what, 18? 17 maybe? 17? Yeah, no, 17.
Starting point is 00:04:25 The crazy part is Billy's known us since he was like 16. I know. True. And we, yeah, that's weird. Isn't that really like creepy to think about Billy listening to our podcast when he's 16? I don't think he did. No, I did. I think he listened to it once on the train, right into his interview with us. No, I did listen to it every day on the way to school. What's perfect about us, if we ever get mad at Billy for anything that he does, is the fact that me and you molded his young brain into what it is. Like, Billy is a perfect test case clinical sample of what somebody would grow into if they only had me and big cat teaching them. Yeah, it is our fault. I'm trying to think of stuff that you
Starting point is 00:05:00 guys may have taught me this year. No, like back then that I thought was hilarious. Don't come in with a resume that's stapled in seven pages and has a lot of inaccuracies on it. If the sun is hot, how come space is cold? Yeah, that was when you guys were like making 69 jokes. That was back when it was like Stingray Steve on the call. Yes, yes. 69 jokes were very, very in. If you think I'm already now, like go back and listen to the 2016 part of my take. Calling Lenny, that was freaking hilarious. Yeah, it was. Yeah. But happy birthday, Billy, for real. Thanks, boys. I love you. Love you guys too. Oh, that was, I was trying to have like one on one moment there. I love you. Love you too. There we go. Billy already knows I love him. I don't
Starting point is 00:05:49 need to tell him. Love it. I tell him enough. Love it. Okay, so super wild card weekend. Jake, are you jealous? Should we do like an unbirthday party for you? No, it's Billy's day. He deserves all the spotlight. When's your birthday, Jake? September 26th. So we missed it. We didn't mention it at all. No, I don't remember mentioning it. I think he got brought up. Yeah, yeah. My bad. Jake was a member. We literally forgot about Hanks. Oh, yeah. We got to pop a deal. Listen, I go ask a question on fantasy corner last week and put someone to ask, like, do you take the day off for your birthday? Maybe I'm in a minority here. I thought I was in the majority, but after like 21, your birthday doesn't really matter. Like it's not like a, I'm going to take,
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'd rather take, maybe that's also skewed by the fact that we have winter birthdays, but I would never want to take my birthday off. Give me a day off in fucking July. Yeah, there's no point to taking your birthday. Also, when you reach the age, I'd say like 25 is a good birthday too, because you can rent a beach house. You can rent a car. Then when you turn was at 32, you can no longer get drafted into the military. Oh, I didn't know that. That's pretty good. I think that's the age. Okay. Can you run for president at 35? Run for president at 35, which sucks. So when you turn 35, that's actually the worst. It weighs heavy on you. Like, should I run? I have to think about it every day.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yes. And when the pros and cons, I feel like I need to do a service for my country. Yes. Yes. But yeah, birthdays, I don't know, they're nice. Like, they're like, hey, happy birthday. That's nice. And then you move on. I remember one of, I think I've told this story, but I was like, 19 or 20 in college, I ate a shitload of mushrooms on my birthday. And don't do that, because you forget that on your birthday, everyone in your family calls you. And I had like a 10 minute conversation with my grandparents. And I thought they were speaking a different language. Yeah. It freaked me out. You got, you got to definitely make some time. And you have to almost proactively call them on your birthday. If you got big plans later on that night. I remember one
Starting point is 00:07:52 time my mom called me on, on 420 at college. And I had, I had just smoked out of gravity bong several times that day. And she asked me if what I was doing, what I was up to that day, and what I had done that, that I was proud of myself for that day. I don't know. She was getting like really. Why did she call you on 420? You guys celebrate Hitler's birthday or something? No, I'm just saying she called and she, it was a random mom call. Got it. Those are scary. She goes, what constructive thing have you done today to better yourself, PFT? And I said, mom, I ate an entire family size bag of Cheetos and I didn't lick my fingers once until I was done with the entire thing. And then I licked my fingers and it was awesome. That's, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And then she hung up on baby steps. Yeah. So that's just the tip, birthday tips. But Billy's sober right now. So good job, Billy. You're here for the show. Happy birthday. Now, January. Yeah, sober January. All right. Let's talk super wild card weekend, super wild card weekend, one of the best weekends in sports. I'd put it up there. It's like, you know, I always say March Madness, first weekend of March Madness is the best. But this one is, this is the top five sports weekend. The way that they've set it up this year, I think pushes it ahead of next weekend for me. Because you've got, you've got longer, a longer time period of days where there is football. And it's, it's, it's spaced out so
Starting point is 00:09:12 perfectly. Like the fact that we have a Monday night game is such a great come down. Now we did talk about the potential of maybe doing NFL bowls, which would be perfect for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, also Friday to get us to the divisional round. Who would be your number one bowl matchup? I think we got to do a Derby. Okay. I think we got to do Jets Giants. Jets Giants. A Jets Crosstown Derby. You see, which team is the best team once and for all in New York City? Shout out Joe Judge. We recorded Wednesday's show early and then he got, we basically said, this is why they should keep them, then they fired them, which is our infinite wisdom. But Joe Judge, the coolest thing he ever did for the giant, or as a Giants, you know, he wasn't the
Starting point is 00:09:57 head coach anymore, but the coolest thing he's done in the last three years was getting fired and then getting a delivery to his house of like 15 pizzas and, and I don't know, it was like 10, 30 racks of Coors Light. It was the best. That was like Joe Judge. I should get rehired for that. Yes. I would immediately rehire him for proving how he handles being fired. I think that you need to know about a person's how do you get through adversity? There's no bigger adversity than getting fired and you show your true colors. Turns out Joe Judge is an awesome guy. Yeah. I liked how he handled it. In fact, I'm I think Joe Judge might have gotten a raw deal. I still am convinced that he tried to get fired because if you look at the timeline, he his job
Starting point is 00:10:36 was guaranteed for next year. And then he completely lost his mind saying the weirdest shit QB sneaks. And then obviously the finale of saying he wants more power. Right. I think he was essentially like, I want to get fired. I don't want to coach this team anymore. Yeah. My new theory on Joe Judge is he got a completely raw deal. And the plan was always for him to come back next year. But when he got the reins to the team, they essentially said, all right, you're going to run the show. It's going to be you and Gettleman. And the two of you are in lockstep on everything. We trust you across the board. I think that the mayor is because the mayors have at least one of the sons and I think a nephew that are at the top of the pro personnel department. I think
Starting point is 00:11:18 they didn't give Joe Judge and Gettleman as much room to work with as they said they were going to. Now Joe Judge is like, fuck this, I want to go out. I'm going to go out and blaze the glory. I'm going to run two quarterback sneaks on on third or second and nine and third and nine. Yep. I'm going to act like an asshole in the media. And then they had that that interview with him after the last game of the season where they talked to Joe Judge. And I'm pretty sure Joe Judge was like fire me, bitch. Yeah, fire me. And then they had to give me the keys to the castle or fire me. And then they had to take a day after getting their shit pushed in by Joe Judge in this end of season meeting to be like, we can't fire him. That's what he wants. Yeah. And then finally cooler
Starting point is 00:12:00 heads prevailed where it's like, well, do we want an entire another season of Joe Judge doing Joe Judge things? And they just decided they had to let Joe Judge win, pay him $20 million for the next three years or whatever. And then Joe Judge, there was a fucking Chuck E cheese pizza party in their face. And I think I think I am officially team Joe Judge. Yeah, he, what a way to go out. Yeah, I think he also got in another fight with one of his line coaches. He just was a fight guy. Yeah, it was like a there there's certain times when you get a coach was a Tom Cable like they they just when things went bad, they were like, you know what, I will physically fight my way out of this. That was that. Who was the defense coordinator at Michigan? Tom Brown. Tom Brown.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, Tom Brown coaches, you must know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His motto was solve all your problems with aggression. Yes. Yes. It's a fact. As aggressive as possible. At the end of the day, if you can't figure out how to how to move forward on something, just punch somebody in the face. Move through it. Yes. Yeah. I also would love to see I feel like we should use this time in between the playoff weekends. We should give a try out like it should be Falcon Saints. Saints should start Drew Brees. And the Falcon should start Stetson Bennett. That would be fun. I would watch that on Wednesday night. I was actually thinking that you could do Seahawks Saints. Drew Brees starts for the Saints. Marshawn Lynch plays for the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Kind of just like just put put our old favorites in their old uniforms and I'll tune in and watch. I like that. I also think it would be fun to have like maybe Chargers versus, I don't know, let's say Brown, whoever Chargers versus whoever. And we make it like almost the movie Speed where Brandon Staley, if he wins, he gets a hundred million dollars and he can never punt. And if he punts, one random person in the stands dies. Okay. I like that. Just adding a little bit of chaos, you know, I don't know. And it's Boltman. Yeah. Or maybe they hang Boltman. Maybe every time he goes for it on fourth down, someone dies because that's what he loves to do. So he has to resist that. We can combine that with this idea because I was thinking Chargers Ravens would be a good
Starting point is 00:14:12 matchup. Yep. And I think that if you made it all fourth downs. Yes. So the entire game was just all three point convergence. Yeah. It's all fourth downs and every play is worth two points if you score a touchdown. Yes. I would watch that. And then if Brandon Staley loses, somebody dies. Yeah, that would be cool. I also would like to see a bowl game that's just Dan Campbell doing like the American Ninja Warrior set, but he can't leave until he finishes it. So he just keeps falling and getting up and biting kneecaps and trying really fucking hard. I like that. I also think that that Lions Jaguars would be a good matchup where winner gets the first overall pick. Oh, yeah. No, they should always have that for the for the bottom four picks. They should do like a
Starting point is 00:14:56 they should just be the Wednesday night bowl where it's the first round is Wednesday night, second round's next Wednesday, and the winner gets the first pick. Or you could do a game where it's Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars against the Saints because the Saints are they're the team that had I think during the best draft or the worst draft position right now. Jaguars are in the best draft position right now. If Trevor Lawrence beats the Saints, then he gets to play on the Saints next year. Yeah, I like that. You can you can win your way out of a bad situation. We should also just have a bowl game that's the full send podcast interviewing Dishon Watson. Yes, I would watch that too. Yeah. And obviously Washington football team against Chicago.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I think Amirah's bet there basically like a spring game. Yeah, Dicka can coach the Bears. Yeah, we bring RG three out there to score. They'll let him score a touchdown like the sick child that gets to run across the field. Yeah, Matt Nagy can maybe get one last send off because it does feel like you know, didn't have that didn't have that moment. He didn't get to him on the way out. Yeah, he kind of ducked out of that one. Yeah. All right, but we do have real games. We have real games. They're awesome. Actually before we get to our real games better help dot com. Go check it out. We talk about it all the time. We listen, Barstil Sports, there's people here who need better, better help, better help is happy to sponsor us their online
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Starting point is 00:18:34 that's kind of one of those asterisks. I just want to compare people. Were people really getting texts on their phone back in 1992? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Bezos probably was. I don't think no. He's probably sending his dick out. Listen, I mean, he probably was. And then, you know, that's how the Daily Mail or whatever. No, Bezos wasn't sending his dick out till he got rich. Yeah, he got real rich. Because he knows he's got a weird dick and he would have been arrested for some of that. It looks in different light when you're rich. But I do think we'll see if the Bengals win, we'll see text messages be shared. Like, hey, look, yeah, this is the Bengals winning a playoff game. I, this game to me is like the Bengals are in a better spot because they rested
Starting point is 00:19:15 in week 18. The Raiders played late Sunday night, emotional game, overtime, all that. I think the Bengals are going to win. But the Raiders do feel like a team that just doesn't go away. And even if you look at their last month, where they win these games by two points, three points, overtime games, they got Alligator blood. They're the Alligator blood team. I think that the over is a good play in this game. I think we're going to see a shitload of points right now. It's at 49. Okay. Neither one of these teams is spectacular on defense. And they both kind of just strike me as teams that they panic later on in games. This fourth quarter is going to have like 24 points scored. Whoa. I think. Yeah. So you're not going to be out of
Starting point is 00:19:56 this one. We should mention to the Bengals. Will Compton's not playing. Will Compton was playing this game and hammer the fucking under. We should mention the Bengals did beat the Raiders. We have a lot of rematches. Bengals beat the Raiders in week 10, I believe 32-13. What are you going to say? I was going to say, I wish it was at night to take the over. Yeah. I just, I don't know. It feels better. That's actually a good point. Yeah. The ball travels farther at night. It will be getting dark in this. It will be dark in the second half. So maybe take the first half under, second half over. There you go. I like that. Just based on light. All right. So the last, wait, so we brought that stat up about, about the Bengals, but the last time the Raiders won a playoff game was 2002.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. It's been a while. So they've never, they've never been able to send a Facebook message. Instagram has, yeah, the Instagram story from a playoff. Facebook story in 2003. Yeah. So yeah, no, they've, they've never been able to poke somebody and tell them that the Raiders want to play off game. Yeah. What were you going to say, Billy? My take, Bengals are super well rested. Raiders are coming off that intense tie game. I think the Bengals got this one. But doesn't it feel like the Raiders have alligator blood? Like they win games, even the game on Sunday night. The Chargers, I would, if you told me the Chargers and Raiders were going to play a hundred times, I think the Chargers are probably the better team,
Starting point is 00:21:16 but the Raiders just find what they did it to the Colts the week before. I think Raiders are a dome team. I think they're going to get karma for not tying. For not tying. Oh, you're still stuck on the tie. Also, we need to find out what happened to that Cincinnati Bengals fan that, that promised that he would stay on his roof until they won a game. Yes. What is this guy doing for the playoffs? Is he back on the roof? I feel like you have to go back to the roof. Yeah, you have to. Or the Bengals guy who, the famous video, the Bengals fan who painted his entire house Bengal stripes. Yeah. And like the first part of the video, he's like, they were asking about him. He's like, yeah, I went through a divorce. I was like, oh, you can stop the video right now.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Obviously. He literally went through a divorce. He's like, you know what I've always wanted to do? Have my house be a Bengal. That's such a funny midlife crisis to go through. You're not going out. You're not buying a convertible. You're like, I'm just going to make my entire life football. Yeah. Bengal. Jake, I like this game because it feels like the only game where both teams, at least in my lifetime, have had very little to no playoff success. Yeah. Someone's going to have a big win that's very memorable for the franchise. Every other game, every team's made how to play times I can remember. This game, the Bengals all remember in the playoffs is the fight with the Steelers. Yeah. They should have won that game. The Raiders, they were the two seed one year,
Starting point is 00:22:29 I think, when I was in high school. Well, Connor Cook started that game. Remember, that was bad. That was awful. One of them will have a run. It looks cool though, in those road whites with the silver helmets. Yeah. There was also one game that the Bengals had against the Steelers back in 2005, 2006, where on the first play of the game, Carson Wintz, or excuse me, Carson Palmer, tore his ACL. No, no, no. The Bengals in the, oh yeah, the Bengals in the Steelers. Yeah, it was the Bengals Steelers, and it was Kimovon Ohoffen that rolled into Carson Wintz's leg. Excuse me, Carson Palmer's leg. They were really good that year. They were awesome that year. Ocho Sinckel. Their offense was unstoppable. And then they scored
Starting point is 00:23:06 a touchdown in that first pass, and then obviously with Palmer out for the rest of the game. So, the feel-good story is coming out of this game. Yes. I'm rooting heavily for the Bengals. I want Joe Burrow. I saw that picture of him smoking a victory cigar after the LSU game, the championship game, and it took me back to January of 2020 when everything was awesome. Yep. The world was, that's the last time the world was good. That code change picture he had after the Bengals clinched was awesome. It was great. Code switch? Yeah, code switch. Yeah, so great. All right, Saturday night. That's how I feel when I'm hanging out with Billy when I'm hanging out with Jake. Oh, breaking moves. Sorry, Hank, that wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Try it again. Try it again. Try it again. Better than minus. Try it again. Try it again. The Texans are firing David Cully. Oh, that's bullshit. He never had a chance. That's bullshit. They should like, yeah. Weren't they supposed to be like dead last this season? Oh, yeah. And like, you basically are admitting that you hired him just to fire him because he couldn't have done better than what he did. I think that was kind of always the understanding, was that they were hiring David Cully so that they could fire him later. And I think even in his first press conference, David Cully is like, I can't wait to tell my kids one day, my grandkids, that daddy got to be an NFL head coach for a season. Yes. I think everybody had an understanding
Starting point is 00:24:30 of this is more than that. It's daddy won four games with Davis Mills. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Daddy did a respectable job coaching the Houston Texans feeling a little, a little weird that we're calling them daddy granddad. Okay, good breaking moves. Sorry to Hank, that wasn't that good. That's fine. That's fine. One time pun it on third down. Yeah, granddad. All right, Saturday night, Patriots Bills. Bubba, we'll start with you. How are you feeling as now the voice of Patriots Nation on the show with Hank on the cocoa list? I feel good. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, no, but I'm excited for it at least. Like, I think it'll be an entertaining game for sure. Yes. My confidence is not very high, though. Bills fans are going to be so drunk at 815 p.m. It also, I think we're going to get like
Starting point is 00:25:22 the full Josh Allen like we're getting he's he's going to be unleashed because he's he's I think I saw a stat that he had the most efficient rushing season for a quarterback ever, which is crazy. It's also crazy because not yards because when you watch him efficiently run the ball, he's doing crazy shit like kneeing people in the face and jumping over them and stiff arming them. So he he takes like a very violent way to be efficient. And they're going to I mean, there's no holding back here in the playoffs. So we're going to see the full Josh Allen. I this game is very because like if you if you just go by the last month, it's clear the Patriots have have started to trend down while the Bills are trending back up. But doesn't it feel like four
Starting point is 00:26:05 and a half points is too much for a division game where everyone knows everyone? I like this feels like a field goal game. I like the Bills. I like him a lot. You're I think big catch right that we're going to see full Josh Allen. We're going to see Josh fucking Allen. I think the Bills are going to win. I it feels like a field goal game. It feels like a tight game to me. I agree with that. Yeah. Bart Scott says that Josh Allen should take Viagra before the game. Keep the blood flowing. That would be unfortunate. The freezing cold. It's actually it's something that some athletes do though. They take Viagra Cialis and it makes sure it like dilates your blood vessels more. So it doesn't actually give you a boner during the games.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Ocho Sinko is quoted for taking Viagra and it caused him to cramp in one game. The Seattle the Seattle Farmers Seahawks of the 2011-2012 they used to take Viagra and Adderall. Yeah. They would combine and make a double. Yeah. A cocktail out of it. Yeah. This game is going to be fun though. It is. It feels like I don't know. I just love I love whenever division rivals play in the playoffs. It just feels extra special. All right. Sunday Eagles Bucks weather weather alert. I've heard there's going to be wind. I've heard there's going to be potential rain. I think the Bucks are going to kill the Eagles. I think the Eagles are going to cover. Yeah. I think it's one of those matchup things. Well I have a stack to back that up. I
Starting point is 00:27:30 think they kind of match up. I like the Eagles. They're kind of in there the team that's being disrespected the most I think in the NFC where it's like no one's talking about them. They've got guys on the team that have won the playoffs before. They like doing the thing where they go on the road as underdogs. You're probably going to break out the underdog mask again. Yeah. I haven't seen anybody in Philadelphia wearing German shepherd masks for a couple of years. I think. Yeah. I like to. I just think that they're a tough football team. So the stat that I have that backs that up is Tom Brady is 0 and 5 against the spread against the NFC East in the playoffs. There we go. So he is 0 and 5. He's got 2 and 3 straight up. Who's the last quarterback to beat him from that
Starting point is 00:28:07 division? The last quarterback to beat him for that division would be Nick Foles. Against the spread. Taylor Heineke. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Against the spread he's 0 and 5. I don't know if the Eagles match up very well against the Bucks because the Bucks have their big strength is run defense. You know what I mean? That's what the Eagles want to do. I just I think if the Eagles can keep it close early they'll like they'll I know this sounds very stupid. It's almost a Trent Dofer thing. But game flow wise they can stay in this game if it's if it stays within that one score range. If they get in a spot in wind in rain the Jalen Hertz has to throw to win the game. I think that's going to be a problem. I don't know. I still think that they the Eagles are a team
Starting point is 00:28:53 that they've got a way to just fuck up a game playing kind of like the Giants did sometimes against teams that they would have no business competing against. I feel like the Eagles have that experience where they can they can bring another team down to their level. So the only thing with the Eagles and I know this has been pointed out Eagles fans I have said many times that I think Nick Siriani should definitely be in the conversation for coach the year. What they've done is incredible turnaround. If you look under the hood of their season they beat a lot of bad teams. They haven't beaten a good team. They beat the. All right. So here are their wins Falcons Panthers Lions Broncos Saints with Trevor Simeon and then they finished the season with
Starting point is 00:29:36 Jets Washington football team Giants Washington football. Right. So they haven't beaten a team that's above 500 besides I guess you could count the Saints. Yes. Yes. But that was Trevor Simeon Saints. Yes. When they were on their five game six game losing streak whatever it was. So that would give me a little pause. Yeah. They don't have to beat them. They just have to cover that's a lot of points. That is nine points. I think Tom Brady playing at one o'clock is good because afternoon evening Tom Brady. Yeah. He starts sundowning forgets what down it is. I think I think it's going to be an ugly game. I think the weather is going to contribute and I think the Bucks are going to win by six. Okay. Win by six. All right. So that would be covering
Starting point is 00:30:18 the spread. Yep. All right. Next game the game for all the children of the 90s 49ers Cowboys just excited. This should just be the John Madden game because these two teams you know used to clash all the time and it was incredible. The did you see the offensive coordinator for the 49ers went mini viral. Yeah. It was awesome. His name is many everything. Yes. Mike McDaniel he was explaining plays people were talking about it and then there was a follow up which it made me laugh very hard. Someone a reporter I think for the Niners said anyone who is hoping to potentially hire Mike McDaniel as their head coach just know he won't take an interview if your team is in a state that doesn't have legalized marijuana. Not kidding. How awesome is that.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't know where this guy came from because I mean I like to think that we have a pretty good pulse of who the guys are in the NFL. Well I don't know what this guy just kind of popped out of nowhere. It's because Kyle Shanahan is known so much as an offensive coach that you don't even think like you know you mean you think Kyle Shanahan is running the whole offense and then oh yeah they got a guy who's calling the place here. This guy seems like a guy that's like like cleaning Kyle Shanahan's pool. He's awesome that they just hang out play Tony Hawk pro skater every day. It's like someone from workaholics got a job as an OC. Yes. It's crazy. He's the man. He does look a lot like spider. Yeah. I feel like Greg Williams would be like he wouldn't take an interview in
Starting point is 00:31:40 a state where you can't carry it gone. Yes. A state where you don't have to stand your ground law. Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. Yes. But this game is going to be awesome. I feel like it's I have my future on the Cowboys so I'll probably just have to roll with that. I don't like the matchup. I think the 49ers can they're they're the team in the NFC that like they could beat anyone. I don't mean they're they're the team that has the lowest seed where I'm like yep if you told me the 49ers ended up in the Super Bowl I wouldn't I wouldn't think that's that crazy. I don't like to match up either for the Cowboys. I want the Cowboys to win for your future. It's OK. And I don't care. I sprinkled some money on them a long time ago just to get to get to the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:32:24 not to win. But this would make me very nervous if I was a Cowboys. Yeah. And I you know the one the one thing you could say about the Cowboys the strength that they have throwing deep passes if they can hit them if Dak is playing well because he's been up and down is the weakness of the 49ers defense. So that could be a place where they could exploit it. And Jimmy G like if you can get Jimmy G if you can get pressure on him he crumbles quicker than most quarterbacks. Yeah. Jake who's your front runner for MVP is a kiddle MVP. Well we think it's going to be kiddle now. Actually remember we talked about it how it should be a coach. Mike McCarthy's already won an MVP in my book because he said he would get slimed if they won. Yeah. So that's what we
Starting point is 00:33:09 said. Yeah. So he's no but he they asked him about it. And I think let me find the quote. He basically heard the question wrong and then just agreed to it which I don't think he wanted to agree to it. So yeah that would be sick if he got slimed. Yeah. Mike Zimmer definitely knows age of consent laws in every state. Yes. Pitting away he's going to be hired. Yes. Definitely. You're on research on that one. Yeah. Excited for this broadcast. Oh. Oh you're your buddy. Yeah. Shout out. Noah. Noah. The baby bird. Baby bird. Yeah. I think kiddle should be the MVP of this game but just imagining slime dripping down Mike McCarthy's face is very funny to me. It's like that's a laugh out loud image that I will get to carry with me for the rest of my life. So I don't
Starting point is 00:33:58 know. I feel and I also don't want to have to give the MVP to kiddle if they lose. Does that make sense. Yes. So here's what we got to do. We have to be coordinated here. I think we go on the you should be following the pardon my take Twitter account. We go off of the pardon my take Twitter account. We will announce once voting opens who we are going to have win the MVP. We do control. We controlled it last year. We control it this year. We'll control it for the rest of time. Like think of it as the Hall of Fame vote. We get all the votes. We get to decide you the listeners and us here. We like this is a very big honor. Everyone was listening to this right now. You are part of the MVP committee. So we will decide this and we will make sure that we get a
Starting point is 00:34:42 winner. It actually it made last year's game so much better because that was a stinker. It was the Saints and the Bears. Nobody gave a fuck what was going on until like you know what screw let's just give Mitch an award. Yeah. On his way out the door. And then I feel like the Internet kind of came together. Yes. Everybody was just being very pure and supporting. We should definitely I if the Cowboys are going to lose I'll say this right now we have to get it for Dak because that would be funny and you know he'll be upset. Gack Prescott. Yeah. Just be very funny. Be like Dak and if we ever interview him again which I hope we do one of our favorite guests his favorite color is gray. Yeah. We could ask him. Here's the here's the quote. Mike McCarthy asked if he'd be willing
Starting point is 00:35:24 to get slimed. He responded. Do I want to get signed. Oh slimed. Okay. I obviously haven't put on Nickelodeon lately. I don't even know what slime is. Rich you want to help me out. Anything for the children. So he thinks he's getting slimed for the kids. Just all the time quote signed. I was I would like to see Mike McCarthy get slimed or Jerry Jones getting slimed to be funny too. I don't know if he'll be an option on the poll though. Yeah. Maybe Stephen. Stephen Jones. Yeah. Jerry's slime Stephen Jones. Yes. For him as like a stand in champion. I just love them but like that read like a that read like Michael Scott's transcript from the deposition signed. Okay. Slime rich. It would also be kind of funny if if the 49ers lost and then we gave it to Jimmy G.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah. Yeah. That would be nice too or Dbo because we love him. We'll figure it out. But just go on our word. Yeah. Be ready to vote. Be ready to vote early vote often. We should actually get memes. Make a picture that people can post on their Twitter like an I voted sticker so they can they can show everyone that they voted. They did their duty as an American and they voted for the MVP. If you're in line stay in line. They have to let you vote. Don't let them intimidate you out of voting. Please do not. We'll be delivering waters to everybody that's in line. And if we don't win the vote we will protest forever. Yep. Okay. Last coming last game. Uh Big Ben going to KC. I don't know. I don't know. I this is Big Ben doing a reverse jinks on
Starting point is 00:37:05 himself. Yeah. He's like listen we're going to get our butts kicked. We might as well just go out there and have fun. The more the week goes on the more I'm thinking this might be a win one for Big Ben game. Yeah. It might be. I did say they're a team of destiny. Now I also followed up by saying the destiny is to lose by 30 to the chiefs in the first round but they they might be a team of destiny. If TJ Watt goes off it's a possibility. Okay. Let's do it. Ready. It's TJ Watt needs to have strip sack fumble return for a touchdown three and a half sacks and one of those is that. Yes. So a defensive touchdown three and a half sacks. I think if TJ Watt scores 12 points they win. I think Najee Harris has to have two hundred and seventy five yards rushing. Okay. I think
Starting point is 00:37:50 they can't punt. Yep. If they have zero punts. I think Patrick Mahomes and Tyree Kale have to be on the covid list before the game. I think if Jackson Mahomes starts at wide receiver. Yes. They have some good chemistry. Yeah. It's pretty tall. He's like six eight. His six goal line fade option. His touchdown would be amazing. I saying all this I actually am excited to bet on the Steelers because it does anything you know about NFL betting whatever if everyone in the world says this is going to be an absolute shithousing blowout like don't even watch the game. Steelers are going to keep it tight. So I need to know what color uniforms the Steelers are wearing. If they're wearing the black
Starting point is 00:38:37 uniforms at night I think I got it. They probably have to wear the white because they're going to be wearing red. Yeah. If they were wearing the blacks I would say that this they have an opportunity. I think Ben's last game. I think they won all their Super Bowls in the whites. Yeah. That's true. The two that they won were both in the whites. It was actually the first Super Bowl I ever remember was the Seahawks Steelers Super Bowl and to see Big Ben. You are old. Yeah. See Big Ben really take it one last time as in Detroit. Yeah. No. Big Ben Big Ben didn't play in that game. His stats. I mean it was actually I think statistically the worst quarterback winning stats for Super Bowl winning quarterback ever actually in that game.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I'm going to find it. It was it's comical. No I'm not because Antoine Randallel threw the touchdown. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's awesome. I think Heinz Ward was the MVP of that game for catching the touchdown pass thrown by Antoine Randallel. Yeah. Hold on. I'm pulling it up. It's I mean he was early in his career so you can't like I was he was he was just he was very very good in the game against the Cardinals that they won. So this Steelers won twenty one ten and Big Ben was nine for twenty one a hundred and twenty three yards and two interceptions. Not great. But he scored a rushing touchdown Danny. He was actually short. Yeah. He was short on the touchdown 25 refs gave him the score. Yeah. Seven seven rushes for twenty five yards. Antoine Randallel was one for one
Starting point is 00:40:13 for forty three yards in a touchdown. All right. So I mean we gave you the way we gave you the formula for the Steelers to win this game. But in reality I feel like the Chiefs. Yeah. Keep it close. Keep it close. Try to keep it close. I'm going to bet on the Steelers. Yeah I am too. Absolutely. Have to. Maybe Moneyline. Who cares. Big Ben's last game. Have to. All right. Well should we save. Let's save Monday night for Sunday night because then we'll have a little bit of an understanding of how everything's played out and get thrown in there because that's you know we'll get we'll get excited for Monday night. I'm just so happy that we have Monday night football playoffs. So what's what game are you looking forward to the most this weekend because
Starting point is 00:40:51 for me it's easy. It's Saturday night. Oh I think I'm looking forward to Sunday afternoon the most Cowboys 49ers. Saturday night under the lights. No Patriots in Buffalo. I just think you're going to see just like steam and vaporized vodka coming off the stands of the Bills mafia. They're going to be drinking for about 12 hours going into this game. It's going to be cold as shit. Josh Allen is going to be screaming and there's going to be that steam coming out of the front of his face mask. Yep. The only reason that's not number that's probably number two for me. The only reason is not number one is that there's I think that game has potential to be like a 13-6 game. You already mean whereas I think the Cowboys Niners will have some big time plays big time
Starting point is 00:41:36 play makers. I'm excited for that one and also the colors like that's just great crowd shots in that game. Yes. I've just drunk as people cold. Yes. And if they lose if the Bills lose there'll be some great sad buffalo. Yeah like fat sad guys. Oh my God. Oh my God. I have a prediction. Yes. I think there's going to be a dildo on the field again. Okay. Call your shot. Billy got a DM it sounds like. No I just have a feeling. You just have a dildo feeling. I just I got a feel they're going to be on their best behavior. You got to follow it. I've got a cool number thing on this game. Oh I love your cool number things. I just saw this. The spread is four. Yep. The temperature is going to be four. The over under is 44. Whoa. I don't know how this mean. I don't
Starting point is 00:42:23 know. It's just a line of force. It's a lot of force. We got to go to Wendy's. It's a force field. Yeah. Why what's it when he's crazy. Yeah. Four for four. Maybe someone will score four touchdowns. Okay. So we got to bet someone. We got to bet Josh Allen to score four touchdowns rushing. There it is. What about passing. What does that pay. I don't know that's available. Yeah. We'll see that. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. We got awesome interviews. We have Green Bay head coach Matt LaFleur and then we have Stetson Bennett right after that before we do that movement in a tiny apartment in Southern California two college dropouts teamed up to create a watch company that broke all the rules with fair prices unexpected colors and clean
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Starting point is 00:44:33 You had an incredible year. I wrote down some fake questions and some real questions. So I'll let you decide which one you want me to start with. Of course the fake questions. Okay. Should Aaron Rodgers be in jail or prison? I knew you were going to come with that one, man. You guys got a big beef with Aaron. You know, the first time I did your show, I knew you're a bears guy, but I didn't realize to, to that extent. Well, you torture though it's torture. It's torture. Let's talk about the season. It's torture. You win the NFC North. You have an incredible, this is your third year. You win games like an incredible clip. The bye week that you have means so much more now because
Starting point is 00:45:18 obviously there's only one team that gets it rest versus rust. It's our favorite debate to do. Where's that line? If you're a coach and like how you deal with your team, that is the magic question. I don't think anybody has the right answer for. So that is a big reason why we played our guys in that last week versus first Detroit because we felt like three weeks is a little too much rest and definitely wanted wanted to keep the momentum going as best as we could. Yeah. I mean, I think that there were people that were just like screaming at you online. I'm sure you pay a lot of attention to what random people online say about your in-game coaching decisions. But I mean, that had to play some sort of
Starting point is 00:45:59 factor where you're watching your stars out there. Like how much time should they play? Is there that much of a difference between, you know, playing one half of football in the final week versus playing a full game or playing none of the game? Like how did you make that decision? It was kind of just a gut decision. You know, we were going to kind of see how the game was going. We kind of had a plan going into it as far as just some of our key players like Aaron and Devonte and Kenny Clark and some of those guys in terms of mainly just the first half. But I think it's more or less just the preparation for getting ready to go out there to compete. Just the mental that you have are just getting your mind right to go out there and
Starting point is 00:46:48 play a football game. Did you consider just asking them like, hey, let's put it up to a team vote. Do you guys want to play? And then if they had said yes, then you can be like, okay, you're not going to play. I just want to know that you're mentally prepared to play. We could have done that. We did not do that. That's what I would have done. Is there rust for the coaching staff or are you guys just grinding like throughout the entire bye week? For the bye week, there's definitely some rust. I told our guys I want them out every night before dinner, be home and kind of reacclimate with your families and reconnect with your families. But absolutely, I think you got to take advantage of this time. It's more or less, we want to be
Starting point is 00:47:31 very efficient and still get the work in because there's a lot of self-scout and stuff that you can do to try to help just kind of get a little bit further ahead as you approach the next game. So let me give you a rust question to help you out. Keep your mind sharp because you're with us right now, not studying, not getting ready for the opponent, whatever. I'm not going to point fingers. I'm going to give you a hypothetical scenario for the players. Who's our opponent? That's a good point. All right, I'm going to give you a hypothetical. I'm going to give you a hypothetical, the Bears haven't had to buy in a very long time. I'm going to give you a hypothetical situation for the playoffs. Okay, you ready for this? I'm ready. You're down eight. It's fourth
Starting point is 00:48:14 and goal from the eight. There's two minutes left and you have all three timeouts. You're going to need to stop either way. Do you go for it or do you kick a field goal and make a two possession game, a two possession game? I'll tell you what, you would go there, big cat. What? That's a hypothetical. Yeah, I don't know. Did that happen to you? I don't know, maybe. I mean, I almost boycotted the Barstool app after that game. Yeah, we read what you guys put out there. Yeah, I think it also, it just happened to coincide with when that giant ship was stuck in the canal and they were trying to dig it out with a little shovel. And so the memes of your field goal being the shovel digging out the ship of the eight point lead, it was like a perfect
Starting point is 00:49:03 storm against you. It's also like, I mean, you are a phenomenal head coach. I can say that. And you got your team poised for a deep playoff run. So I have to find like, this is all I have. That's literally all I have. So that's, I mean, it's it. Like you're good looking and that pisses me off too. So I basically have you doing a coward's field goal instead of going for it. And that's, I will hold on to that for the rest of my life. You just have to know that. I'll tell you what, you look at how many plays inside the red zone, especially you're talking about eight plus are successful in that situation. And I just felt like it was best. I thought our defense was playing well and thought we could get the stop. And unfortunately you're damned if you
Starting point is 00:49:48 do, damned if you don't, it's got to work out. Whatever decision you make has got to work out. It's true. And that leads to a good point that we've had this discussion a lot this year. It feels like this year was the year of teams going for it and becoming more commonplace. You saw obviously the Chargers, Brandon Staley did it a lot. How do you come to that decision? Is it strictly numbers or like walk me through exactly how a process goes down of like, this is when we want to go for it. This is when we don't. Yeah. I think it's, it's a lot of the, you try to take everything into the equation in terms of the circumstance, who you're playing, how your offense is playing. I would say typically we've been pretty aggressive over the last couple of years because
Starting point is 00:50:31 we have a lot of confidence in our guys on offense to go out there and execute. And you know, hindsight's 2020. Like I said, it didn't work out. And you know, I got to live with that. But I do think, you know, had that situation, had I been in that same situation again, I really do think that was the best thing for us. You know, they didn't call many DPIs or defensive holdings till that last drive. And we got, we got dinged with it. So it is what it is, man. Yeah. Yeah. I respect your, your willingness to like go down with a ship on that decision. Like I made that choice. I wouldn't, I would do it the exact same way again. Like if you're going to, if you're going to go one way, go 100% in that direction,
Starting point is 00:51:20 don't look back with any regrets after the fact. Do you talk to Brandon Staley though about like, because I know that he's become the guy this year, you coached with him in Los Angeles. I never coached with Brandon. Matter of fact, I had talked to him prior to, when he left to go to Denver, but the Bears may or may not have blocked him from potentially coming here. One of the only good things they've done in a very long time. Good job. Good job. It sounds like, you know, you have a relationship with him. Have you, have you like gone back and forth and do, do like head coaches in the NFL, do you share like the latest things that you're thinking about strategy and percentages and all that stuff? Or are you just like siloed in with your guys
Starting point is 00:52:05 trying to figure out what the best thing for you to do is? Yeah, I'd say we're more siloed in. I think that you got a couple of guys that you talked to. It's definitely easier when they are in the AFC. I talked to, I talked to Robert solid quite a bit. I talked to, I still talk to Sean every now and again, but that gets a little bit more complicated, especially this time of year when we're both competing for the same thing. But yeah, you definitely have your guys that, that you talked to throughout the course of the season. So you talked to the Jets. The Bears are looking for a new head coach. I got a guy circled. He's the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets. I thought he did a fantastic job this year. If your brother gets named the
Starting point is 00:52:49 Bears coach, what, what's your reaction? Oh, I throw, I throw a party for him, man. That'd be great. I love kicking his ass twice a year. Okay. So no, I don't want him as the coach. He's off my list. I just put him off my list. I took him off my list. There it is. Who do you not want to see the Bears? I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I, I do think, and I'm not, I'm not being a homer here. I think my brother did a really good job. I, I am as tough as critic. I promise you after every game, I always watch them, ask them questions on why he, he chose to do what he did and I do think he's got a bright future in this league. Yeah. I mean, he did, he did some amazing things with Mike White. We'll always have the Mike White games and then Flacco. Yeah. So if you
Starting point is 00:53:31 weren't at Johnson, yeah, exactly. Not easy. Yeah. Maybe you can explain something to us about, about Josh Johnson, because we've talked about him a lot on this show. He seems like a guy that's universally respected in the NFL and he's had so many different jobs that, you know, like, if you need an emergency quarterback, he's the guy that you call. You have any insight why a guy like that has never stuck around on a team? Yeah. A lot of it's just circumstance, I think, just getting the opportunity and, and being put in a position to be successful because a lot of these quarterbacks, you know, you got to have people around you too now. And if you don't, or you're put in a situation where it's tough, sledding, then a lot of times teams will just
Starting point is 00:54:12 cast you away and then you got to try to recreate yourself somewhere else. And Josh has hung around for a really long time. He's done a really good job. Yeah. Well, I brought that up because you kind of did that to one of our best friends in the entire world, Blake Bortles. And he threw him out like he was yesterday's trash. It was incredibly disrespectful the way that you, yeah. I love Blake. No, you don't. Then why'd you fire him, Blake? No, you don't. Hey, guys, I just coached the team. I don't pick the players. We were so happy. I bought a Green Bay Packers Blake Bortles Jersey. I might be the only person in the world that has one of those. But we're going to get one too. I'm going to wear it next time on here. What was his, what was his effect like on the team
Starting point is 00:54:57 when he joined? Oh, Blake is great. He is great in the room. You know, he's a guy that's played a lot of ball. Certainly he's got a great relationship with, with not only Aaron, but our offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. They, they won a lot of games together in Jacksonville. So Blake's the guy that has been around. He's, he's got a great experience and he's just a great person to be around each and every day. Brings a lot of energy to that room. Sounds like a guy you'd want to have stick around. He's so great. We got rid of him. It sounds like a guy that I I would personally stand on the table for him. Yeah. I would love to, I mean, my daughter's only seven months, but I would love for Blake Bortles to marry her when she's of age.
Starting point is 00:55:43 That's kind of creepy, man. No, it is very creepy. As it was coming out of my mouth is like, dude, what are you doing? Stop, stop. But that's what a great guy Blake Bortles is. That's how, that's how strongly we feel about him. So we're going to run this on Friday, wildcard weekend. You're going to watch all the games. Do you watch all the games and how do you watch them? Do you watch them strictly as a fan or are you like actually watching them and being like, all right, this team does this. I'm just, they did something new. I'm going to pick that up. How does that go down? I would say a little bit of both. You know, it just depends how many glasses of wine I've had during the game. Okay. So yeah, maybe Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:56:22 a little less, and then Sunday you're back to watching. Yeah. No, definitely the games, I would say the NFC games, you definitely want to pay a little bit more attention to, and just in terms, because you could play any one of those teams. So, or I shouldn't say anyone all, but you could play for the teams. Yeah, right. You can't play the box. Just like off the top of your head, if you're looking at the Eagles and the bucks playing, would you say that the bucks are like nine points better than the Eagles? Trying to get a little ahead for... No, I'm just curious. Like, you're an expert, you watch a lot of film, you've seen these teams play. You look for stuff that I don't
Starting point is 00:57:01 even know to look for. So like, I was thinking nine points sounds about, if I were to make a prediction, that's what I would say. I was curious what your thoughts were. Every game is a little bit different. I'll tell you what, those are two teams though. This year, we didn't play. So don't have as much familiarity again with them from this season, but, and especially with new leadership there in Philadelphia. Yeah, it is kind of weird. You haven't played, you didn't play the 49ers. You didn't play the Cowboys. Oh, you played the 49ers. You didn't play the Cowboys or the Bucks or the Eagles. So, there's actually, yeah, that, I mean, that's the great part about playoffs is when you see those
Starting point is 00:57:36 matchups, you're like, oh, I wonder how they'd match up against each other. Yeah, you definitely, you try to get ahead this week and take a peek at all these teams that you're less familiar with and try to somewhat predict what you could be facing in that next round. Even after you've had a great season like you have in Green Bay, do you still go back and just like think to yourself, what the hell happened against the Saints? Oh, yeah, that was, that was not our finest moment to say the least. Yeah, I mean, there, there had to be like a little bit of doubt that creeped into your mind after that game because it was, it was such an ass kicking and it didn't look like you're, I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:15 it really was, your team was, your team looks a lot different now and the way they played compared to what they, the way they played then. Was there any like big change that you made after that game that you can look back on and say, here's the mistake and here's the correction? Oh, there was, there was a lot of teaching after that game, but I think it was just so out of character for, for our football team, for a lot of our players and obviously we didn't get our guys prepared to that extent. It definitely made you second guess some of the decisions that we made in the preseason, not playing our guys, again, getting them just that ability to get mentally prepared to go in to compete at your best level in an NFL football game because you guys see it
Starting point is 00:59:00 every week. Shoot, you saw it last week with Jacksonville and Indy, Indy going down there, having an opportunity to win and you're in the dance and you know, a team that probably nobody thought could do it, showed up and knocked them off. So each and every week you got to be your best. Yeah, it's, it's an interesting point because as fans, we freak out, like we're, we're very reactionary. I watched that, I watched that game week one, I was like, oh hell yes, they're done, it's over. How, like, at what point do you as a coach freak out, like you have to be a few games in a row where you see something off or is it just steady Eddie the whole way? Because I'm always, it's just crazy to me how people can, can watch a game and then flush it down the toilet and go
Starting point is 00:59:45 to the next one. I know that's the cliche thing you're supposed to do, but I can't do that. I, I stick to those games for the rest of the year. I'm like, the Packers suck, the James kicked their ass. Yeah, no, it's, as coaches, we freak out after every play. What are you talking about? Okay, good, human. You guys, I wish you guys could come on our headsets and just hear the, the discussions that, that take place. I think a lot of people would be pretty horrified. Yeah, I mean, it's gotta be, yeah, it's gotta be high intensity. Yeah, you ever like get personal with somebody during the game? Oh no, you try not to go there and not to say that it's never happened. I've definitely heard it before, but you never try to really go there. Yeah, you're,
Starting point is 01:00:27 you're definitely up for coach of the year. You'll probably get votes. The other guy who might get votes and we, he's our personal coach of the year. You coached with them, Mike Vrabel. How, like, what is so special about Mike Vrabel? Because I think it goes under the radar sometimes, how good of a job he does. What, what is that quality that he has that you're like, that's what he does that's better than everyone else? I don't know. You don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, Raves does a great job, man. I think when you look at his team, they kind of take on his personality and he is a known nonsense, very direct type of coach and he's going to tell you exactly how it is and it doesn't matter if you're the
Starting point is 01:01:12 best player or the worst player on your team. He, he holds nothing back and that's what you, you love and appreciate about him. Yeah. I mean, I love Mike Vrabel. Yeah, he's also doesn't like us. He's also just like intimidating. Yeah. He's just a big dude. Yeah. I actually think that he could probably, he's, he's still the coach that could kick everybody's ass in a Royal Rumble. I would agree with that. I don't know. I mean, I don't know who could. Well, let's, let's, let's take a look. He's got an edge to him. He slapped me on the back in Indy at the combine and it hurt. Very hard. It hurt. Big, like a bear claw handshake. Yeah. I'm going through the list here. Do you think you could beat up Sean McVeigh?
Starting point is 01:01:51 Oh yeah. Are you kidding me? We're about Kyle. I love Sean too, man. But Vrabel is a big, he's a big man. The guy that would, it would be interesting because I just, he's, he's another guy that just has that mentality is him and Dan Campbell. That'd be a heck of a match right there. Yeah. That's true. So where would you rank yourself though? That's what I was asking. Could you beat up Sean? Could you beat up Kyle? Who wins the matchup of the former Redskins coaches? Sean, Sean's a pretty, uh, he's a pretty strong guy, but Kyle, uh, no doubt about it. Well, we may or may not have had a wrestling match in our past. Oh, okay. Three way. Oh no. Kyle owns Sean. Do you give Sean any shit for that in the off season? Like every time they
Starting point is 01:02:37 clash, Kyle seems to have their number. Yeah. They, they, they definitely get prepared for them and he's, he is what six and oh, and in the last six games. Yeah. Um, so in terms of culture and what you do as a coach, would you say it's good or bad culture to have your players screaming profanities on national television at a bunch of, uh, fans that paid good, hard earned money to go see the game and pay their salaries. A lot of stuff happens in the heat of battle. So bad culture. Call it what you want, man. I mean, if, if people are flicking, flicking you off and, uh, un-reported stendencies at you, uh, how would you respond?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Photoshop. That was Photoshopped. Clearly doctored image. What's funny is there was one picture that I think had like 20 different pairs of fans flipping here and off at once and just one like little snapshot in time. Uh, speaking of, and the fans are brutal in this league, man, but that's what, that's what makes it so exciting at the same time. Who is there like one fan base that has, that you can count on? Like these guys are going to be creative and they're going to be mean. Oh God, there's a guy in Seattle. That's epic. Oh, the Hulk, the Seahawk.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I don't, the guy right when you come out the locker room, he knows everything about you, your family. Uh, he, I'll never forget. So my brother, you know, we're not the tallest guys and, uh, we're walking out there. We're playing Seattle. It was 2016, um, you know, a game that went right down to the wire, but, um, Mike was walking out and the fan goes, uh, hey little guy, what are they going to ball you up and shoot you out of canon at halftime? I mean, it was, it was epic. It was, uh, something that we definitely don't let him live down to this day. Yeah, I liked that. I like a good creative fan. I feel, I feel like a lot of times the NFL, like the rowdiest fan bases or the drunkest fan bases, you know, they get more
Starting point is 01:04:46 shined, which is fair because drunk fan bases are objectively awesome. But like the real creative ones, the weirdos, those are the ones that, that I respect a little bit. So I'm going to have to keep an eye out for, for that one guy in Seattle, see if I can't figure out who he is. Just go right by the visiting locker room. This guy's epic. Everybody knows who he is. Uh, you know, and then there's, you know, you got Philly and Buffalo, those fans are epic as well. Yeah. Um, I don't know if I, I talked to, uh, talked to you about this last time we interviewed you, but, um, there's been kind of like a quest that I've been on for the last two and a half years or so. And that's to open football coaches eyes to the use of the planned downfield lateral in the game. So like,
Starting point is 01:05:31 you know, we've all seen the hook and ladder. It makes its appearance, you know, once every couple of years, you might run it as a, as a trick play, as a gimmick play. But I think that the coach that embraces designing like wide receiver routes that are set up so that they'll have somebody running off them after they catch the ball or even just having two guys run downfield at the same time with an option to pitch kind of like a downfield, a quarterback option type thing. I think a coach that realizes how to use that strategy correctly and smartly and just kind of, you know, say, okay, there is a risk to turn the ball over when you do this, but the, the opportunity to get, you know, a 50, 60 yard playoff. It is so much higher than the risk. I think the first
Starting point is 01:06:11 coach that figures out how to do that correctly is going to change the game of football. So I wanted to give you the opportunity to be the first one to really implement that into your playbook. And then you can be the best coach of all time and then give me all the credit for it. Well, why don't you just come in, you teach me and you show me what you want. We'll implement it. You'll be ashamed of yourself. It's got to be during OTAs though. I'm happy to do it. We'll bring up, I'll get some of the Fijian rugby players together. We'll come up. We'll teach you how to offload the ball properly and then boom, dynasty. And bonus, PFT just had COVID. So he's immunized, immunized, immunized.
Starting point is 01:06:47 So you're good. I got it twice. So I'm super immunized. Yeah. There you go. I'll tell you what, this is, this is not made up. I had a guy when I was in Tennessee, he came up to me. He was one of our chiropractor or somebody and he told me that he could teach us that rugby style and we'd score every time. I said, okay, man, that's off season project. And what happened? I left and got the job in Green Bay. So never, never came to fruition. So that guy's just sitting there. He's probably like standing outside your office wondering where the hell you've been the last four years. He's been waiting for you. No, it's, listen, there's, there are a lot of haters and doubters out there, especially the old conservative
Starting point is 01:07:30 coach. You know, you might see somebody that's been around the league for 40, 50 years. It's like, I don't want to turn the ball over. Yeah, that's a risk, but guess what else happens when you do this play? You score 70 points a game. Okay. Would you, if I told you, you could score 70 points a game. Is that something you would be interested in learning? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Then we can make some business happen. All right. My rates are reasonable. What's the perfect temperature for a playoff game? Because I'd have to imagine, you know, obviously everyone Lambo, cold elements, everything, there has to be a temperature though that sucks for you personally. So is there like a spot where you're waking up on game day? You're
Starting point is 01:08:08 like, I hope it's 22 degrees. So it sucks for them, but I'm used to it. The colder, the better here. Yeah. Oh yeah. I got some secrets now. I can't, I can't share them because I don't want to, you know, we're about to play some teams in here and don't want their coaches feeling comfortable on the sidelines. Yeah. You've got like, like performance enhancing substances that you might use. Never that. Like cover, cover your face in Vaseline or something, trap the heat in. No, maybe that. I'll tell you, actually, I'll tell you one. So we were playing the Rams a few weeks ago and Sean came out with like hardly anything on and I'm like, dude, you're going to freeze. And he had a wetsuit on underneath. Oh yeah. I think Brady used to do that.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Calibur. Brady used to always wear the wetsuit. I never thought of it, never heard of it. And so I may or may not have adopted that little secret. Purchase the wetsuit. Are you duping it? It really keeps you warm. I know you're supposed to be in it. I don't know. That would be so awesome. If they zoom in on Mount Forest face, like he's peeing. Yeah. Listen, you gotta see an awkward look. Have you ever still in quiet? Actually, good question. Have you ever had to leave the sidelines during game because you get a pee? Oh, no. Never. Have you? Not as actually in college. We were playing up at Northern Michigan University and it was third or fourth quarter. We had just come off the field
Starting point is 01:09:49 and I had to go to the bathroom so bad I ran into the, it was into the public restroom right off the concourse. That's hilarious. Took a leak and went back out to the game. That's amazing. When you got to go, you got to go. I'm asking this about no player in particular that you coach. Do you guys, is there a drug testing policy that checks for hallucinogens or LSD or ayahuasca or anything that might change a player's entire mindset during an off season? I don't believe so. I don't know. I don't think that there is. I'm just a ball coach, guys. I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, me neither. All right. Here's another brain buster for you. Three times three, less or more than eight. Excuse me. Three times three, less or more than eight. So that's what
Starting point is 01:10:38 you're trying to do. You're trying to kick three field goals in the last two minutes of the game. No, that was smart. Okay. Now I got it. Okay, big cat. I got a few, man. I never come out of this so again. Never have to get in the end zone when you keep three field goals. Here's a real math question. We asked this to every coach that we have. If you score a touchdown, you're down by 14 points. What do you do? How much time's left? Five minutes left. Go for two. There we go. All right, you're right there. That's smart. I mean, it's just the math play. We did it last year against the Vikings at home. Yeah, you got to do it. It's the math play. What if you score a touchdown, three minutes left, score a touchdown, you're down by nine? Well, that's just four
Starting point is 01:11:19 fields. Down by nine? Yeah. I mean, you got to just kick the, you got to kick the extra point. But you got to, yeah, I guess so. Wait, after you score, you're down by nine? Yeah, you score, you're down by nine. Do you kick a field goal to go down eight? Or do you go for two, go down seven? Oh, after you score? Yeah, after you score. Yeah, I think, I think you got to make it, I think you got to make it the one possession game. Yeah, that one makes sense. Probably a three field goal game. That's what I call it. Yeah, I just like to kick field goals. So, all right. Well, I'm going to do something that I, because I actually like you and it pains me that I like you. And I did, I did compliment. Yeah, I compliment. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:12:02 No, go ahead. I was going to compliment you. I was going to say that's, that means a lot coming from a Bears fan. Yes. And I complimented you a few weeks ago. I said you were too attractive as a head coach. It's bullshit. Like it's just bullshit, whatever. I'm going to do something I never thought I would do. And it pains me to say this, but you guys are going to win the Super Bowl this year. It's pretty much guaranteed. I might actually more to lock it. If you win the Super Bowl, I'd like you to come back on part of my take and I will, I will eat shit, not actual shit because PFC has already done that, but I will interview you and be like, Hey coach, how is winning the Super Bowl? And it will be the most painful interview of my life.
Starting point is 01:12:43 But again, you guys are guaranteed to win the Super Bowl. So that's what I'm going to do. Are you definitely trying to jinx us? No, I'm not. I think he just wants to get you back here in person and introduce you to his daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. She's probably really creepy. She's probably a year or two away from understanding that nine is more than eight. So that'll be the first math lesson. No, but I, that, listen, proclaimed the Packers are going to win the Super Bowl and Matt LaFour is going to come back on part of my take as a Super Winning Head Coach. Hey, you know what? Congrats. Let's clap it up for Matt winning the Super Bowl. I do have a question for you about, about like teams because I'm not going to ask you who you'd
Starting point is 01:13:27 be looking forward to or who you want to play in the next round. But I will say, I'll ask you this way. Which team would you most like to beat on the way to Super Bowl? I'm not going to answer that question. I'll tell you what. You know, like when you look at it, every team is, is going to be difficult from here on out. That's just facts. You better bring your A game when you play in a playoff game. Otherwise you're going to get your ass beat. Yeah. Yeah. Even the Steelers? Anybody that's in this thing and shoot, it's every week in the league. Even the teams that don't make it, you better bring your A game. Otherwise you're going to get your ass beat. Look what happened last week. You guys lost to the Lions. You're limping into
Starting point is 01:14:13 the playoffs. You're right. All right. Well, we appreciate you joining us. I actually like, in all seriousness, you are an incredible head coach. You had a great year. It pains me to say all these things. I like look at like that. It's that meme, the Wolverine meme. And I look at Matt LaFleur's face and I just wish I had a coach like that, but we'll cut all this part, all the stuff that I'm saying that's nice about you. Worst of luck, but if you do win it all, which you're going to win it all, you're coming back on the show. Absolutely. All right. Congratulations. Congratulations. Let's cop it up one more time. Super Bowl winning head coach Matt LaFleur. You guys are unbelievable, man. I love it though. I love the banter. Are you nervous about your
Starting point is 01:15:02 end of the year job review with like 30,000 owners that get to sit down and tell you what you screwed up? Oh, every day. That's all I think about. Matter of fact, you know, we had this recent stock sale. It's still going on if you're interested. Maybe I'll buy you some. I'm already, I'm an owner. I tried to give one to big cat. You can't, you can't transfer on the back. It says non transferable. Well, you just tried to do there fraud. That's SEC fraud. So guess what? You're on tape. Hey, you know what? Good news jail or prison. Your quarterback's already there. You guys are wrong, man. Oh, all right. Well, coach, I did buy, I did buy my own stock. Oh, I get tired of everybody telling me that they're owners. So guess what? I'm a part owner too.
Starting point is 01:15:49 That's insider trading though. Yeah, you can't do that. That's beautiful. I don't know what I can and cannot do outside of football. Yeah. Clear Gatorade or yellow Gatorade you're hoping for? Not going to answer that. Okay. All right. Thank you, coach. You're welcome, guys. Good talking to you guys. Stephen. All right. Thanks, Matt. Appreciate it, man. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. I'm not going to wish you luck, but whatever. You're a really good coach. I'll fucking admit that. Eagles are definitely appreciate it, man. Malaflora is brought to you by our great friends over at Manscaped. You can get 20% off in free shipping with the code PMT when you go to manscape.com. We love Manscaped. We love everything
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Starting point is 01:18:06 Stetson Bennett, the fourth, the fourth, Stetson Bennett, the fourth. I mean, you have, with a name like that, you got to pass it down through many generations. All right. So Stetson, we appreciate you coming on. I know you got a lot of parting to do. We wanted to have you on give, give the dog some shine. And I know you probably done a million interviews and everyone's like, Hey, tell us your story. We know the story. I have a different question to start that first drive on Monday night. Did you know that you looked like the most rattled man in America? Well, the ball, the ball, when, when I fumbled the ball, it was cause it was, it was like freezing cold in the stadium. It was like 50 degrees in there. And so I hadn't started sweating. So just like slipped
Starting point is 01:18:51 out of my hands. Thank God. Yeah. That was a, that's start. I bet on Georgia and it was the sack. And then that I was like, Oh, but credit to you. I mean, like the first two drives didn't go so great, but you settled down. Like what was going through your head when you start the game? Not great. Are you saying like, was there a moment where it clicked? Like, all right, we're good. Like I can do this. This is a regular game. Just settle down and make your throws. Yeah. Like the whole time, you know, we're in the first half, we just had so many penalties, you know, the first drive start off of the sack, we had, you know, like three drives start off of like false start or holding or hands to the face or something like that. And I mean, we're in like
Starting point is 01:19:38 third and 10 plus, like most of the, most of the first half. And that's just, it's hard to, it's hard to overcome all that stuff when you're playing Alabama. But, you know, we, we always felt confident, especially with our defense, you know, playing the way they played. I don't know. It was, it was just like, all right, the whole, the whole team, we were all like the first few drives, we kind of, I don't know, shot ourselves in the foot, but we kind of settled in there after that. Yeah. Yeah. You ended up settling down pretty nicely there. One other negative play I'd like to hear you talk about though, before we get to the good stuff is the fumble because the fumble was very interesting to me because in real time,
Starting point is 01:20:20 it looked like it was an incomplete pass. I don't know how you felt after the ball left your hand if you thought instinctually, okay, I fumbled it or if you thought that you threw it forward, but the ball ended up going forward. I'm not a physics major. In fact, I don't know shit about math, but I'm pretty sure that if the ball goes forward, it means that your hand was also traveling forward, right? So what did you, what did you think during in the moment where you like, oh, should I just fumbled or were you like, okay, I'm going to have to shot at this? No, whenever I thought it was going to be like intentional grounding the whole time because it didn't, it didn't go past the line of scrimmage. I didn't think it was a fumble until
Starting point is 01:21:02 they said it was a fumble after they reviewed it. I guess it was one of those things that was so close that whatever call was made on the field was going to stand. But no, I thought it was, I thought it was a pass the whole time. I can't remember if that was third down or second down, but I at least thought we were going to be able to punt the ball away. Yeah. In that moment, that was the moment that if you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, you're like, oh, here we go again. This is disaster. What, what did you say to your guys on the sideline or what did the coaching staff say to you? Because that to me, like the fact that you guys bounce back from that, you know, kept on scoring in the fourth quarter, that was, it was so perfectly, it was such a perfect
Starting point is 01:21:43 sports story because Georgia always was a team that choked. They have all this adversity. It felt like it was happening again. And then boom, you reversed it all. Yeah. Well, the huge thing like the whole, I mean, because you're right, like when we got down, you know, this pass in the SEC, you know, and then I threw two picks in the second half and just kind of like all unraveled. And even last year at Bama, it started unraveling in the second half. And then when I threw that fumble or I threw the fumble, see, I thought it was a pass, but the fumble happened. And yeah, if I was a fan, I'd probably be start, start freaking out too. But I don't know. We, we, thank God, the defense kept us in like a one score game the whole time. So all we had to do
Starting point is 01:22:33 was go down and score. They went for two. And so we went for two, didn't get it, but we're still up one point. And then we, we stopped them and just went down and scored again. Yeah. I have to tell you, so my tweets during the game, I had like back to back tweets, there were probably about a half hour apart. One that just said that Stetson Bennett were fucked. And then the next one said Stetson Bennett, I never doubted you in all caps. So I never doubted you. That was a joke when I said we're fucked. Yeah. Yeah. I think I saw one, maybe the SEC championship game that you put out, that was in complete support of me. So I appreciate you never wavering.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Okay. Yes. Yes. I think that was probably maybe also a sarcastic tweet, but yes, I never wavered. Two times I went game of the year on you guys and you, and you paid me off by being incredible down the stretch that touchdown pass, the 40 yard bomb. You knew that was, you knew you were getting a free play right there, but it, I mean, it was still an incredible play, but did you know it was a free play? Yeah. And so we called down on two, because the, the drive before was, I thought he might have been out the, the SEC fumble. He jumped the cadence. We went on one. And so going forward, we're like, we can't just keep going on one. They're timing it up and, you know, great rushers. So we went on two. I saw the flag
Starting point is 01:24:00 being thrown. We had already called two go balls on the outside. So I knew I was going to go to AD. And, you know, whenever, whenever they jump off sides, it's, it's a free play. And so you just, you know, trust the guys and throw it up. Yeah. Put it, put it on a dime. I was talking to my friend Brandon Walker this morning. He texted me and he found out that you were going to be on the show. He, he asked me to ask you a question. I'm not going to ask you the question he wanted me to ask you, because he just basically wanted me to say, Hey, Stetson, tell Brandon that you're not mad at him. But do you feel, do you feel bad for putting him on blast for not reading your Instagram messages and also for him hating charity? Well, well, I didn't feel bad, bad in the moment.
Starting point is 01:24:47 I was trying, I was trying to get our charity out there. And I think it worked. I don't think Dave would have, would have tweeted out if I wouldn't have given him something about Brandon. So we got that out there, but he texted me and or he DM me and I hadn't, I hadn't checked my Instagram and I kind of read it and then I had to go do something. And then he apologized and then I think I opened it and didn't respond. And so then he said, I donated $2,000. I'm so sorry. And so I felt awful. Like, like it looked like I was just actually pissed at him. But I DMed him back and said, I wasn't that mad. I was just, you know, trying to get a little stored for the, for the funds. There's no way he donated $2,000.
Starting point is 01:25:26 If he did, I could believe that he did because Brandon was so shaken up that he looked like he was a fraud when it came to being an SEC football guy. Yeah. That I feel like $2,000 even wasn't really enough if he wanted to buy his way out of the shame. Yeah. In other words, Brandon's ego is worth $2,000 to him. If I were in his position, I would have to think that my own ego would be more expensive than that. You gotta, you gotta like believe in yourself, Brandon. $2,000 is chump change. That's facts. I found the tweet, by the way. I said, on December 4th, I said, thank God I'm putting my son to bed right now and didn't see that pick six from Stetson Bennett, that fucking fuckhead parentheses, just a kid. Yeah. That was sarcastic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Now that, that made me feel a lot better after we lost the SEC championship game. I got a good laugh out of it. I mean, I was putting my son to bed. I didn't see the fucking fuckhead pick six you through. So it was all good. Do you actually like, do you pay attention to the negative stuff that people say about you? Or are you a guy that feeds off that? Or do you just kind of try to shut it out as much as possible? I don't know. I mean, it's hard not to hear, especially whenever, like when you do throw a pick six in the SEC championship game and you're like having doubts, you're like, kid Lord man, like, did I lose that game for us? And then everybody else is telling you that. And so, I mean, yeah, it creeps in your head and you have
Starting point is 01:27:00 like long nights and I don't think I slept before the Michigan game. And before the national championship, like I can go to bed till like two 30. I'm just sitting there wide awake. So, I mean, it gets to you, but there's really nothing else you can do other than just go to practice and watch film and try to get better. Yeah. Your, your bounce back has been incredible every time that you've, you know, not even talking about the transfer and, and playing at junior college and coming back. It's, it's an incredible story. I do think that like we just saw the Kurt Warner movie. I think you need to hold out for your life rights for as long as possible because someone is going to try to write a movie about you. You need to, we can act as representatives on your behalf if you'd like.
Starting point is 01:27:42 That would just be a verbal deal. Yeah. 10%. But we will hold out. Yeah. Here's the, here's the general plot. Uga, he's got a boner the entire time. Is that work? All right. So, you're just rolling through ideas you gave Adam Sandler. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, we only have one idea and we just, you know, it's like when you have a play that, yeah, the defense can't stop it. So we're just going to keep running it. I do want to talk. So you went on good morning America. I don't know if you saw, we interviewed Joe Burrow after their national championship, pretty much the same exact setup,
Starting point is 01:28:18 like right after the game, we were all drunk. Like how drunk were you when you had to go on good morning America? That sucks so bad. Yeah. Well, the problem was like, the problem was it was wasn't like a zoom call like this. So I couldn't see Michael and I couldn't see myself. So I had no idea what I was looking like. I was just talking to just a circular camera. So if I could have seen myself, I probably wouldn't have been like leaning over to the side or, I don't know, I probably could have done a better job. But I mean, I got out of the stadium at 2 30 in the morning. The interview was at 7 40 in the morning. Like tough after you went to national championship. This is a tough spot to be. I think it's bullshit that they make you do that interview. They should
Starting point is 01:29:02 at least pay you because you're out there. This is like the best night of your life. You should be able to fully enjoy yourself and anybody that shames you for being drunk or hung over the next day. That's that's just that person telling on themselves that they've never won a national championship because that's what you're supposed to do after the fact. If anything, they should either pay you money to do the interview or you should just do the interview with somebody who's equally as drunk as you are. So that way nobody can point at you and be like, he's the bad guy. We're all in the same boat together. So I personally didn't have a problem with it. It's tough when you do that interview. Like there's a difference between when Joe did it with you
Starting point is 01:29:40 guys and me with like the most professional morning show in America, you know, good morning America. So yeah, that was that was a tough spot. I got a few tags. My grandma called me on that one. Wait, are you saying we're not professional just because we slept in the same? We were wearing the same clothes we slept in and we were all three of us, like pretty much borderline blackout drunk while doing the interview. No, no, I think you guys are just more accepting. That's what I was saying. I wouldn't question your professionalism. Because I would say that makes us maybe more professional that in the middle of one of our biggest like benders of our lives, we took the time to do our job. I'd say that's very
Starting point is 01:30:20 professional. You guys are method interviewers. You want to be on the same level as the people you're interviewing. I think you get better answers that way. Yeah, if you're throwing up while they're giving an answer that usually makes them more comfortable. But yeah, I have no problem with you with you doing that interview. I just think that it's mean that they make college kids do that interview on the best night of their life. Yeah, I'm on your side on that one. Yeah. I'm curious to know about your coach Kirby Smart about his vertical leap. Because I don't know if you've seen the replay of that interception at the end of the fourth quarter, but he probably got like 36, 40 inches off the ground on that. Were you shocked to see
Starting point is 01:31:02 how athletic he still could be? I mean, no, I mean, he's really, I don't know, he's like 40 something. I mean, he was like the UGA leader for career interceptions when he graduated. So he's got a, he's got a pretty good athletic bone in him. Now he never does, he never really runs with us. But I don't know, he's still got it. He did a high dive off of the Stegman, our pool, we call it Stegman. And he did a few flips. So, you know, he's pretty athletic. Yeah. All right. So my last question, I would imagine everyone said this to you, but I'm curious if it really has said in that like Stetson Bennett, you're, you're set for life. Like you are, you're a legend forever. Has that, like, you know it, but has it really fully said in that,
Starting point is 01:31:57 like, you're good. You've, you've, you've accomplished something that people didn't think you could ever accomplish. And the story is incredible. Has that all said it? No. No, it hadn't said in, but like, I don't know. Like, is it like, it's cool to have like that insurance in my back pocket. Like I could probably go do a cash grab sometime whenever I'm like, need cash, but like, I don't know. I try like, it's kind of weird to like think about like, and I still want to like do some stuff with my life besides just live on this, you know. That's true. It's a good, it's a good counterpoint because you don't want to be like, oh that, you know, nothing ever cool will happen in my life again. But I do think it's
Starting point is 01:32:39 more just like, like you said, your back pocket, like, hey, I can, you know, I guess it's not even very few people get to be a legend in a certain town or city or area and you are forever a legend in the state of Georgia. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that is cool. That is cool. But I don't want to know. It is cool. Yeah, you're right. I'll, I'll, it'll sink in at some point. I, these past like three days have been such a, you know, blur. I haven't really had chance to sit down and talk with people and see how cool it was for like me and my teammates to win. Oh wait, I actually had one last question. Um, yeah, then he's got one. Uh, Kirby smart. When he takes off his visor, it's tough, right? Like every time he takes it off, I'm like, uh, I don't want to bet on this guy.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Why? Cause of his hair. Yeah. It's just, I don't, I, he just, he's one of those guys or everyone knows him that just looks better with the hat on. Yeah. He's got, yeah. He's got like the, the coaching, um, visor. I think Spurger started the whole thing. Um, it kind of looks like he's, he's about to go golfing whenever he has it on too. Like every time he's got like that country club look. Yeah. I feel like his face gets bigger when he takes the visor off. It just kind of, it's like the visor is like a belt for his cheeks. Yeah. When he freaks out and he takes it out and his like face swells up. Yeah. That guy, I'm like, Oh no, what did I just do? Like Kirby smart. Like that's,
Starting point is 01:34:02 and it's also the name too. It's just, I need him to keep the visor on at all times to keep me calm. Okay. All right. I'll talk to him about that. My last, last question is just about your name. Stetson Bennett, the fourth is an all time name. You probably get that a lot. You probably know it's a cool name. I'm curious to know what goes through your head. If you're planning for the future and, uh, and you have a child, does it have to be, does your first born son have to be Stetson Bennett the fifth or do you meet them? And do you look at them and you're like, is there possibility where you're like, maybe this isn't Stetson. Maybe I got to try again. And the next one's going to be Stetson. Yeah. No, I think, um, you kind of, you kind of hope that they're,
Starting point is 01:34:42 they're going to be born good enough to live up to the name. I don't think you can kind of say, no, this kid doesn't, doesn't have what it takes. Right. Right off the bat. It's tough to evaluate a kid. You can't give like the, the rivals five star rating on an infant. That's tough to do. Yeah. But you must feel like you've, like this is really the best way that you could live up to the name. And the previous three Stetson Bennett's is like, I want to, I want a national championship at Georgia. I don't think that anyone can ever say I didn't live up to the Stetson Bennett name. Yeah. I think, I think it helps. It does help. Yeah. You're right. I found one more. I, uh, you, I don't, you, I don't know if you have Twitter during the game, but I gave you a really good
Starting point is 01:35:20 tip. I said Stetson Bennett just needs to remind himself that under no circumstance, should he be starting a national championship game and then say, fuck it and go ball. Okay. I think somebody read that to me right after the fumble. And then one of them scored, scored two drives in a row. Yeah. That's when they read it to me. Yeah. It's like, dude, what are we doing here? Let's just fucking go out and be legends. And you did it. Like you did it. That's that fucking pass. Both touchdown passes in the fourth quarter were incredible. It was an all time game. I loved every second of that game. It was, you know, obviously because I won, but also just the stakes felt so like every possession felt so intense and the stakes so high
Starting point is 01:36:01 that it was, uh, it was an instant classic for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was special. Yeah. All right. Well, congrats, man. Enjoy it. If you're ever in New York, love to have you come by the office to say what's up and, uh, yeah, go. I, I mean, I imagine you have like the best party ever all day that you got to get to. So we don't want to keep you too long. All right. All right. Thanks guys. All right. Take care. See you man. Stetson Bennett was brought to you by our good friends over at Roman Swipes. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer, but thinking about baseball doesn't always work. The folks at Roman and online men's health company are changing the game with Roman Swipes. The secret to longer
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Starting point is 01:37:24 Firefest in the past, like depending on how you look at it, but I just figured out this week had a mute words on Twitter and it's so much better now. So wait, what are you muting? I muted the Bachelor, NFTs, crypto and Bitcoin because I just fucking hate seeing people talk about it. So you're just a hater? Yeah, no. Have fun being poor. My favorite is people just buy Bitcoin and then have it. Like I don't know what else there is to talk about it. Like I don't care about buying it. They're disrupting the market, bro. The more they talk about it, the more people get into it. Yeah, you're actually talking about it right now, Liam. Yeah, you're helping it. We just went up a dollar. I'm not against it. My increase in value. All my apes gone. The next
Starting point is 01:38:07 step that you need to take is you need to tweet out a picture of you muting words to let everyone know. Those are always my favorite, like muting this for the week. Thanks. We didn't care. Do you still have your Caruso? Yeah, I still have my Caruso NFTs. I haven't looked it up in probably a year. I feel like it's increased in price though because Caruso has been awesome this year. So I feel like maybe I got in at the ground floor of the Caruso NFT Chasedown Block Market. I have like seven top shot auto porters. You know what? I know Alex Caruso listens to the show. Alex, I will sell you a very limited edition NFT of you doing a Chasedown Block on James Harden. You probably remember the play, but you probably don't own it. So I'll sell it to you
Starting point is 01:38:53 for the low low price of $50,000. Love it. It's projected to go up to $500,000 in the future. Is there a way he could autograph it? Like online? Yeah, no. Yeah, no. Actually, that's the way that he can make it work. He's the only person that can make it jump up in value that much. When I send it to him, then it becomes the NFT that PFT bought of Alex Caruso. And then he autographs it. Now it's autographed PFT NFT of Alex Caruso that Alex Caruso was selling. Alex, talk to me, man. Let's make some money. He's going to come on the show. He was last time he was in New York. I think his pup punk was the day that he was here and had an off date, but he is definitely going to come on the show. So yeah, we'll get that done.
Starting point is 01:39:39 All right. PFT, your firefest. My firefest is the mouse is back in my apartment again. Oh, no. You would think that I'd be able to take care of this mouse and get rid of the mouse issue, but you can't. They get in through every fucking crack. It's not rats. No, it's definitely a mouse. Okay. I know what a rat is. I've seen a rat. This mouse, I thought I killed it a couple days ago because I left out a weed brownie. Somebody broke into my house and put a weed brownie on the countertop. And I saw it. I called the police immediately when the police were on their way over. The mouse took the brownie, ate it. I thought it just fell asleep and died and having the coolest mouse little dream ever. And then I caught another mouse the next day.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Well, there's multiple. And now there's another mouse that's coming in. Yeah. I don't think you get one mouse. I always assumed it was just the one. I think that's the problem with mice. I like most people just buy mouse traps and PFT is like, I'm just going to give it drugs. Yeah. Why don't you just buy mouse traps? No, I did. I caught one. Yeah. I got mouse traps, but these little fuckers- Humane or inhumane? The least humane that I could find. The snap? Love it. Love it. I love the snap. The snap is good because you can hear it when it goes off.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Yeah. And then you hear it squeal? The humane ones, the glue trap ones are actually the least humane that you can get because they get stuck to it and then they try to bite their own legs. Yeah. They slowly die. I'm not doing that, but I'm trying to figure out how to get all these mice. And it's impossible basically because if you live in an apartment, even if you live in a nice one, which I feel like I live in a pretty nice apartment, there are tiny little holes everywhere that they can climb through. And I guess my neighbors are slobs.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Those holes are there so you can breathe. Oh, that's how the air gets in. Yes. Okay. Got it. So I should shut my windows. Yeah. They poke holes in every apartment before occupancy. So yeah, I'm fucked because I guess I'm never getting rid of these mice. Yeah. There's a lot of mice. You definitely have a lot of mice. You need a ferret. There you go. Okay. Now we're talking- The smell of a ferret will make all pests.
Starting point is 01:41:38 But then you have a ferret who keeps the mice away. Right. But like you rather have mice than a ferret. Like you're choosing to own a rat. Yeah. I'm just got a bigger mouse. Or they have to take care of them. They actually have these like plug-in things to the wall that send out some sort of electromagnetic. I don't know why that sounds like a crack. That keeps away the mice.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It was like one of those things you put on your car to keep the deer out from in front of it. Yeah. I had no idea what you were talking about, but I'm a researcher. They definitely don't work. What if I just got a cat? Yeah. You could get a cat. Wouldn't a cat be a better thing to get than a ferret? Because at least a cat knows where to shit. Yeah. There's a bet on it.
Starting point is 01:42:14 We should do a bet. Yeah. Yeah. Cat bet. Okay. Cat bet. Just get one. You won't get one. Okay. There it is. That's a bet. If I do get one, then I get to give it to Hank after I'm done with it. Okay. On behalf of Hank, I agree.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Just right after I killed the mouse. Yeah. On behalf of Hank, I agree. Okay. Deal. All right. My firefest is I got drunk on Friday night, way too drunk in our new bar in Chicago, and I was hungover for like four days. So that sucked. Yep. I did pull an all-time little old hockey trick for anyone out there who's maybe getting up there
Starting point is 01:42:48 in age like Billy, 23 years old, that is at a bar late and wants to leave. And by late, I mean it was 1030. I just bummed a cigarette and then walked through the entire bar and just like loudly said, I'm going to go smoke a cig. I'll be right back. And then I just went to 7-Eleven and got some hot fries and M&Ms and went to sleep. So that's a move anyone can take with them. Just like, I'm going to go smoke a cigarette. And then I was just like, I'll be right back. I'll be right back.
Starting point is 01:43:13 You're like, oh, big guy, you leaving? No, no, no. I'm literally smoking this thing. Like stay right here. I'll be right. Even so, like an hour, I got back an hour after I left Eddie texted me because we were like kind of in the same area. And he's like, dude, it's crushed over here. Is it like a little bit better by you? And I was like, no, man, it's chaos over by me while I was laying in my bed.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Just give the illusion that you're still there. Everyone gets so drunk. They don't remember when did people leave? Did they come? Like people last memory of me is saying I will be right back smoking a cigarette. And they just never saw me again. I become a big fan of the Irish goodbye. In fact, I almost exclusively do an Irish goodbye.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Unless there's one person that I'm like closer with that I know is also going to be doing an Irish goodbye to everybody else. Then we almost have like a mutual like packed where it's like, I'm going to Irish everybody. And I know you're going to Irish everybody. But just so you know, I'm about to Irish people right now. So you give it like five minutes before you you make it up. No. And listen, I was I was with some friends.
Starting point is 01:44:21 I told my friends I was leaving, but like the problem was it was obviously the opening of the barstool bar in River Norris. So like we had a bunch of barstool people there. Everyone knows us. So it was more for the whole general public that like I'm not leaving at 1030, but I left at 1030. Got you. And it was great.
Starting point is 01:44:36 I had this idea a few years ago. I think we might have talked about it at some point on PMT, but doing a hangover crawl instead of a bar crawl. For those of us that are maybe getting up there in age a little bit where, you know, the hangovers hit us a little bit harder. You do a hangover crawl the next day where you just go to a bunch of bars that have like really low light, very soft, amicable music playing in the background. You start out the day with like one Bloody Mary or Mimosa.
Starting point is 01:45:03 But then the rest of the time, you're just like they just serve you water and you just lay down on couches. I think you should actually talk to your parents. You should go one more. You should go hangover crawl. You wake up, maybe go get like a greasy meal. Then you have like you go to a place that has like the nicest bathrooms ever. So you can sit on the toilet for an hour.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Then you go get like a steam sauna. Then maybe a quick like one of those napping pods. So it's actually not even a bar. It's actually like a full restorative hangover experience. Yeah. No, I agree with that. I just think that the first place that you go should have a Mimosa or Bloody Mary. So you get one of those and then you go to a place that serves like tacos or hamburgers. And again, like extremely low light, very comfortable chairs.
Starting point is 01:45:49 And then yeah, you just you nurse your body back together. But you're not expected to talk to anybody. Right. Right. You can just kind of giggle. So spa? Yeah, spa. That's what I'm talking about. Spa.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Produce. Or just do it at your house and turn off the lights. Get door dash and turn off your lights. Billy. Yeah. So I was doing some research for the show and just seeing what I could contribute. And I found this link, you know, that was very prevalent because it was a recent report that was turns out to be false that John Cena had died.
Starting point is 01:46:18 So I decided to share it with the crew. And it had gone very viral in Burma, India, the United Kingdom, and had been making waves in the United States. So I decided to, you know, send it to the group chat as a contribution. Billy, we were never going to sell you out. That was one of those ones that like the play that we drew up in the coaches meeting, you know, the head coaches aren't going to say, well, that was Billy's play, but it was. But we were never going to say that.
Starting point is 01:46:44 It was a good topic to bring up. It was always a pick six. And then and then we kicked it off and we fumbled. We muffed the return. And they got high steps. In theory, it was a good question to ask. I don't fault you. We're listening.
Starting point is 01:46:57 We're process guys, not result guys, right? The process is good. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, good. We can practice. Also, I don't think that Burma has been a country for like 30 years. But that's fine.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Who cares? My firefest is relating back to last episode. Posted the notes app apology on Instagram. Unless you listen to the episode, you're probably wondering what's going on. And some people in my inner circle, they were, uh, they were concerned. That was the genius of it. I don't know if you did that on purpose, but I loved it because it really, if you weren't listening, you thought that you had said something very bad.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Yeah. So friends and family reached out. One of the people who also reached out was my grandma. Oh, were you on mushrooms? No. Okay. She replied to my Insta story where I posted the apology with a sad face. Then she texted me.
Starting point is 01:47:48 What happened? Was that, was that a joke? Are you okay with your nasal spray? I'm like, it's like, it's not a joke. He's been making mistakes because he's addicted to the spray. Yeah. So it's okay. The nasal spray is a real issue though.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Yeah. For anybody out there suffering, we don't want to minimize. Don't go longer than three days in a row. Yeah. I mean, two days max for affirmations. Depends. So you don't want to make people scared. That's what I did because of the notes app.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Yeah. Cheek. Have you, have you gotten any like messages of support from people? Yeah. Tons. Good. AWLs have been tremendous. Yeah, we'll pick you up.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Yeah. It's all good. It's okay. Don't beat yourself up. No, I won't. We're good. But do beat yourself up. It's very funny when you do.
Starting point is 01:48:25 It is. I mean, it's, it's my favorite thing ever when Jake gets disappointed in himself. Because we, we choked on the way out on, after we finished Tuesday's show, because like Jake makes two mistakes in like a matter of 10 days. I think PFD and I, if you fact checked, or like everything we say on this show, we make like 16 mistakes each a show. We're, we're very wrong about everything. Like I don't, all the time.
Starting point is 01:48:48 If I'm right about something, I'll think back and be like, holy shit, I can't believe I got, I was actually accurate with that. Well, it's the saying, you do 99% of things right and 1% wrong. What will people remember? Yeah. But we actually do the opposite. We flipped it where it's like, we do so much wrong stuff that we say one right thing and everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:49:06 wow, these guys are geniuses. Yeah, damn, they're on their game. And then what did you say, I feel like a few months or years ago, you're like, you never want to be too above average. You want to be perfectly average about something because if you're too high or too low, people will realize. If you do anything spectacular in your life, people are going to expect you to keep doing those spectacular things.
Starting point is 01:49:25 You want to just be an average guy all the time, because then no one's going to be like, oh, let's get him to do this. I mean, it's, you know, it's almost, it's kind of like the Eli Manning debate. Like he, you know, people end up bashing him for his careers. For his career being like not as good as the Super Bowls. I don't know. It's just, you know, it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I just came up with this as you were saying that if we made like an Instagram page of quotes like that, like not like inspirational ones, but like, yeah, just be average. So you never, never make expectations for yourself. Like, like, uh, taxes are optional, Henry Lockwood. Out of context quotes. Yeah, no, but just, but just basically an entire quote page that, that makes you a true scumbag in life.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Yeah. Like the opposite of the success wind guys. Yeah. Like if you think like Gary V with a brain injury. Yeah. I think I said last week, like I never want to do anything that sharpens my mind. I want it to get duller and duller as days. Yeah, stuff like that. Like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Right. Not like Gary V being like, learn something new every day. Now, come on. Yeah. I'm just trying to just get up, wake up, and then go to sleep. Yeah. Never, never get a GPA that you would be proud enough of to put on a resume. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely not. Because then come on, can't do that.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Jake, what was your, you put your GPA on your resume, didn't you? No, you were told not to. Yeah. Because it was too much of a flex. No, for better or for worse. They're like, Jane, please don't brag. Top was my high school newspaper. Was your GPA.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Trying to get into journalism school. Better or worse than baby birds. I don't know. Where did you guys finish it? Did you? I was a year older than him. Okay. So you were older.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Was he like, you were like his mentor? No. Where's friends? He's learned everything from you. We learned from each other. Nice. So if you're listening to Nickelodeon game, just remember that the guy behind the guy, Jake March.
Starting point is 01:51:19 How did he get the, how did he get the gig doing the Nickelodeon game? He worked hard and worked out. Right. Exactly. Certainly did deserve the opportunity. Yep. Kind of thing. Just like, he outworked everyone. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Him and, yeah, like Jack Collins worth. Dude just worked on his ass off. He just showed up when other people wouldn't. Numbers. Numbers. Six. One's out. 44.
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