Pardon My Take - Paul Bissonnette, MNF, CFB Recap & Ben Simmons Is The Most Hated Man In Philly
Episode Date: October 20, 2021Ben Simmons was kicked out of practice and we figure out solutions for the very weird situation in Philly (00:02:39:47 - 00:15:04). Monday Night Football and the Titans big win (00:15:04 - 00:23:13). ...College Football recap and who will Coach LSU next (00:23:13 - 00:37:26). Hot Seat/Cool Throne included MLB playoff talk and Aaron Boone Re-hired(00:37:26 - 00:53:55). Paul Bissonnette joins us in studio to talk hockey, being best friends with Gretzky now, and tons more (00:53:55 - 01:52:28). We finish with guys on chicksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Today is Wednesday, October 20th, and normally we would lead with some Monday night football
wrap up, but Ben Simmons, holy shit, this guy, I'm actually starting to kind of like
how dysfunctional he's made this thing.
So Ben Simmons didn't want to be a basketball practice today.
So Doc Rivers said, go home from basketball practice.
Sounds like a win-win.
They sent him home for conduct detrimental to the team, which you could make the argument
that Ben Simmons being at basketball practice and shooting the ball.
Correct.
Anytime he has the ball in his hands and he's taking a shot during the game, that's conduct
detrimental to the team.
But they just sent him home.
He just doesn't want to be there.
The day after he went to practice on Monday and practiced with his phone in his pocket,
which got to have that thing on you at all times.
Make sure that you're ready to videotape anything, get a call.
Did Ben Simmons think he was part of Blake of the Year?
Is that what he was doing?
Keeping his phone on him?
I don't know why you need your phone on you at basketball practice.
But I think he might be just setting, like his goal here might be to just show how disinterested
he is.
So he does get sent home.
He just starts, he starts playing Candy Crush on his phone.
Yeah, he's playing Snake.
Yeah.
Snood, I was going to say Snood and you dated us.
I went older.
Yeah.
I was, Snood also dated us.
Snood was the best.
Which one was Snood?
The thing went like this, I think, and then you shot it.
Okay.
You tried to, was that Snood?
No, that's Astro.
I'm really dating myself now.
Snood was awesome.
I remember Snood.
But either way, Ben Simmons, point and no return, I'd say.
Because I don't know if you saw, but Joel Embiid afterwards, he hates this guy.
He said, at this point, I don't care about that man.
That's a, to not even say his name, I don't care about that man.
He also said he's not a babysitter.
Everyone on the Sixers hates Ben Simmons.
There are some people who are like, well, he's going to, he's getting, he's going to
get traded.
I still maintain that I think Ben Simmons probably could have played this a little bit
better like showing up.
They're not going to trade them for nobody.
Yeah.
They're going to wait to see if they can get somebody good for them.
And what he's just doing is basically just showing up, trying to communicate how disinterested
is while still showing up for practice.
Yes.
He should have just worn jeans on the court.
It's, it's.
Do you have a guy like that on a team that you played on that would wear jeans during
practice?
Well, the phone thing, when, when you play like pickup hoops, you know, like, I remember
he split pickup hoops outside and there was a guy who would come in jeans and he'd have
his phone on them.
So he's basically there.
Yeah.
I had a guy in my high school team that would wear jeans to practice, but he was also the
best guy on the team.
So it's fine.
Yes.
You can get away with having your phone on you at practice if you're Michael Jordan.
Right.
You can do that.
If I guarantee.
Well, he's got, he's got cargo pants.
I guarantee you that Kyrie Irving has his cell phone on him at all times, even during games
doing his own research.
What's that?
Oh, that's new.
That's new.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was awesome.
It was great.
It was great.
So I have a, I have a take on Ben Simmons here because we've, we've said on the show
that Ben Simmons would be the best basketball player in the NBA if there was no basket.
Right.
If it was just.
Or if he switched which hand he used.
If he, yeah.
If he, well, you think that he's non dexterous.
Right.
I think he might be right handed.
I think he doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
He's figuring it out.
He's like Billy when he went to college and was like, am I a quarterback or a wide receiver?
He's experimenting.
He should experiment.
He should get, um, he's dexterous.
Yes.
But I think at this point, Ben Simmons should just quit playing basketball.
I think he should quit.
Okay.
I think he just doesn't like it.
I think it's pretty obvious that he doesn't like playing basketball and it's got to be
tough on a guy like, hypothetically, now granted, he has made 56 million dollars.
I was going to say counterpoint.
Yes.
Making money is cool.
That's very fun.
But I still think that Ben Simmons just doesn't like playing basketball.
And if that's, if that's the truth and he, you know, he's built to be a basketball player,
his body type is basketball, his dad played basketball, probably grew up his entire life
being by far the best basketball player that anybody knew around him.
But at some point, if you don't actually like playing it, yeah, that's almost a curse at
taking away the money that you've made, which is obviously great.
So it's, I don't want to say like, I don't want to feel too bad for the guy.
But at the same time, but he should just, if he doesn't like doing it, he should just
quit.
He's like, you remember the elf in the Rudolph cartoon?
That's like, I don't want to make the toys.
I want to be a dentist.
That's what Ben Simmons is.
He wants to, he wants to go, what do you, is he a phase guy?
I don't think, I don't know if it's that he doesn't like playing basketball.
He just doesn't want to play for the Sixers anymore because for some made up reason that
he is like, I've been wronged here when again, it's, it's a crazy premise because when you
see someone demanding a trade, it's usually the best player on a bad team saying, I need
help.
I want to trade.
This is the absolute like inverse where Ben Simmons was, you could say is the reason
why they had been floundering the playoffs and he's like, my team is good, but I'm bad.
I want to trade.
I think he probably still wants to play.
He probably just wants to play in like Sacramento.
No, no offense to Sacramento, but like play somewhere where he can just play and suck
and not take shots and be a good defensive player.
And there it is.
See, I don't know.
I don't think that he wants to play.
I think he likes the money that's, that comes along with it, but he just doesn't want to
play basketball.
Either way, I empathize with that.
I would like to also get paid to not play basketball either way.
I just, I feel like, I don't know, haven't played close to home here.
The New Zealand breakers will make a trade offer for Ben Simmons.
You don't even have to shoot.
In fact, we will, we will suspend you for conduct detrimental to the team if you even
attempt a shot in the New Zealand breakers game.
I just don't know if, if he didn't want to play basketball, I think he would have said
that by now.
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe not.
I think he might still be at the point where he doesn't want to play basketball, trying
to figure it out and he doesn't want to say that because then that closes the door on
any money that he could make in the future.
Here's the, here's the big win in this.
It's everyone's dad or uncle who was like Ben Simmons couldn't even get into the NCAA
tournament.
He's a bust.
Yep.
That those guys cash those tickets.
That was a great take.
I love that take.
I was like, well, what do you do?
Do you even get into the tournament?
I mean, you could almost also things like Philly one Philly Simmons should be like Philly.
You beat me.
Philly one Ben Simmons zero.
You know who, you know, the other big winner of this is Nick Siriani because the heat is
off him for at least a day and a half or he's going to show up on the phone lines.
He's going to show up wearing a shirt that says like Ben Simmons is a bum.
Yeah.
Fuck Ben.
Cross through his, you know, X through his face.
Either way, Hank, we need to finish this with, with our, our number one Philly guy, Hank.
It's just sad to see.
It really is.
How much are you enjoying this?
I mean, it's, it's amazing.
It's just been beautiful to see the best part is there was a second where, you know, people
swarm off.
They said, fuck him.
Get rid of him.
When he held out, he came back and you did see some people be like, all right, you know
what?
He showed up for camp.
Like let's get this thing going for the season.
Like we can be good again.
And then this happens like two days later, they're all the way back out.
Joel and Bede hates them.
Everyone hates them.
Doc Rivers isn't putting up with this shit.
No, they all hate him.
I mean, they have every right to hate him because it's gotten so frustrating to be like, not
only is he not like a good teammate right now.
He doesn't want to play with us, but also he's, he's going to submarine any, any assets
we can get back that could help the team.
And one year after the contract extension and one year after passing up, James Harton
passed.
We sort of the dunk.
You know what Sirianne needs to do?
He needs to actually like call in to like WIP.
He needs to call into big aunt show in the morning and just go on like all time rants.
He needs to go to the games and just like lead the anti-Benz sims movie.
Yeah, boo him.
People will absolutely love him.
But yeah, Hank, I don't think that even you saw this coming in the way it's spectacularly
crumbled.
No, I mean, the past few days for, for Boston fans who hate Philly and hate New York have
just been beautiful with everything going on with, you know, Philly teams, the Yankees.
But the other thing too, with the way the NBA season worked last year, where it's kind
of a time fuck because of COVID where essentially the, you know, the Lakers won the, the COVID
bubble like a year ago.
Yeah.
So a year ago before the season started, like people were throwing out a trade trade
offers for Ben Simmons and Philly fans are like, no, no, no, no, no, like we won't, we
want Ben Simmons over anyone and it's only one year later and they can't, they can't
get anyone.
They couldn't trade Ben Simmons for like a bag of bones.
I do feel very bad for Philly fans in this circumstance because I know you don't fucking
second.
I know you don't.
But if I may for a second, this is, this is a guy that you ride with that the whole
world hated for a very long time and you defended like time and time again, being like Ben Simmons
actually good, the national media going after him and then he completely flipped it on you
and made you look like a fool.
I do feel bad for Philly in this, in this instance because they deserve it.
They are diehard fans and they did ride for him for a very long time and then he just
turned around and said, fuck you guys, like I'm going to make you all look like fools.
I think if you're going to use a first round pick, especially like a first overall pick
on any athlete in Philadelphia, you need to do some pretty rigorous like mental health
screening on it.
You need to make sure that they're like alphas mentally, like they can't be phased at whether
it's Carson Wentz or Ben Simmons.
There's just something about Philly.
It's not for everybody.
Nope.
But the people that succeed there will become kings.
Yes.
The people that won't get washed out and they will crumble.
But the Philadelphia franchises need to have some sort of like when they bring players
in for their initial interviews, they should just be like fucking berating them.
They should waterboard them.
They should either waterboard or they should have actual guys that live in Philly row houses.
Just in a room and just giving examples of like these are the things I will say to you
about you and about your face and about your family.
If you do not produce, give them some batteries.
Waterboarding them with insults.
Yes.
Exactly.
That's what it should be.
Yeah.
Put a towel over their head and just have Angelo and Phil and Stevie just sit there and
just scream into their face.
That's what we absolutely need.
You have to get used.
It's different in Philadelphia with that accent yelling at you.
Things cut a little bit deeper.
Yeah, they do.
And they demand a lot from their players.
All right.
NBA starts tonight.
We will do it.
Listen, in my mind, NBA starts on Christmas Day, but we will try to do an NBA preview at
some point in the next week or so.
Maybe with Racillo.
What are you going to say, Jake?
I have a reminder for you from the June 21st episode, bet unders on all NBA week one games.
Oh, shit.
Why did I say that?
Oh, no.
I remember.
That was me because they switched the ball over.
It's a new ball.
I bet never ended tonight.
Oh, no.
It's a new ball.
It's just what you said from the summary.
Is it a new ball for real?
The box.
But what if the ball is good?
Maybe the biggest lock.
There's just one.
I don't know.
What?
The box.
Why?
The roster's coming all the way back.
You saw that video with Giannis with the jump shot.
Yeah, but this is like the greatest basketball player of all time.
The Nets are completely dysfunctional.
I don't think the Nets are Kevin Durant.
Just like, fuck you.
Yeah.
The Nets still have James Harden and Kevin Durant, right?
Yes.
And Blake Griffin and Joe Harris.
Which Joe Harris do we have?
Do we have a good one?
Good one.
Good one, Joe Harris.
To lock.
Yeah.
Okay, a lock.
So Hank is saying a lock.
So we're taping this in the afternoon and you're saying it's a lock.
Hank also, so before you came in, he was saying like, Giannis has been in the gym all
summer long just working out grinding hard at anybody.
But now I found out Hank saw one Instagram video.
Did you see this video?
Also, you do realize Hank, Hank, the finals ended like a month ago.
Oh, yeah.
All summer long.
Yes.
Okay.
Time fuck.
Ironically, from that June 21st episode, the synopsis says, the process is officially
dead.
Ben Simmons is afraid to shoot a basketball.
Yep.
So there we go.
We were back there.
Time fuck.
All right, but we will do it.
We'll do a full preview.
I do think the Bulls are going to be good this year, which is going to be very bad for
me.
We should do the NBA preview with Ryan Whitney.
Oh, that would be good.
Yeah.
Maybe Ryan and Ryan.
Ryan and Ryan.
Yeah.
The two Ryan.
A versus E. Yeah.
All right.
So Monday Night Football, let's talk about it real quick.
Huge win for the Titans.
Titans deserve a ton of credit.
Derek Henry is like out of control.
How many touchdowns do you have now?
Too many.
He's had a couple of games now with three touchdowns.
I think he has like 11 or something.
Yeah, he's dominating.
He's insane.
But the Titans, like that was, I was thinking about it.
I was going to do a basic tweet to help back, but it was the beauty of the NFL in that any
given Sunday, obviously it's played on Monday night.
But like everyone thought the Bills were the best team in the AFC.
They go into a Tennessee game, Tennessee's defense struggling, and then the Titans pull
out that win.
I still think I was arguing with some people online, which I shouldn't have done because
I realized that the spread was what they were really arguing about.
I think the Bills going for it, I do that 100 out of 100 times when you have 12 inches
to go and you have Josh Allen at the end of the game to try to win it in regulation.
Yeah.
I see a lot of people out there are results guys, not process guys.
Right.
I'm thinking about becoming a result.
We're a process.
I might be a results guy now.
Okay.
I'm a process guy.
You can never be wrong when you're a results guy.
You can be like, yeah, I would have drafted Tom Brady in the first round, actually.
So, but yeah, people are mad about the spread.
They're mad that they're just mad that it didn't work.
Right.
So it's the easiest thing in the world to get mad about.
But to be fair, on that last quarterback sneak, they just didn't need that one 12 inches.
They also had to then use a timeout.
Then they would have had to take two shots at the end zone, two shots max at the end
zone.
I think you might have three.
And then, well, it probably two, maybe three.
I think you have three, but you still have, I still think that that's better than going
to a point for it.
I liked it.
And then you kick a field goal if you don't get it.
I like the call when I saw in real time and the best way to do it.
I think I saw you tweet about this, but this is how I've been kind of monitoring whether
or not to go for it.
It's just imagine what the other team is going to be.
Yes.
Like, so what are their fans thinking?
If I were, so I was betting on the Buffalo Bills, but I was thinking to myself, if I
was a Titans fan, I would want them to kick this field goal, get to overtime, hopefully
get the ball back in Derek Henry's hands, ice it that way.
Yes.
No, if you're a Titans fan, you don't want them going for it because getting the 12 inches
and I saw also a stat, which is it's good because we always kind of forget that a fourth
and one is not all the same.
Yeah.
There are fourth and ones and it's like one and a half yards.
There are fourth and ones.
This one was 12 inches and also you get 12 inches with Josh Allen.
I would take my chances getting 12 inches with Josh Allen and maybe even score.
I the only thing that you could say and I'll buy is that the play call.
Maybe I would have maybe rather have him like roll out and you can either throw it
or he runs for it because he's just such a freak.
But I still I do it every time.
Derek Henry, by the way, 10 touchdowns.
OK, yeah, they telegraphed what they were going to do when he went under center.
They were able to like compact the defensive line.
And that was a good play by the defense alignment.
He like pushed the fuck out of him.
But yeah, when it's Josh Allen, he's like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL
at converting quarterback sneaks.
I think he is the best.
I think it was I think it was last year was 94 percent.
He is the best and so he unfortunately had a moment.
That one wasn't where he pushed all the buttons.
The quarterback sneak.
That was a classic why button when you're standing still.
Yeah. And you just kind of fall down.
And so we ended up like half a yard short.
They lost the game.
I was actually saying that Vrabel should have declined the penalty
on the kick return that ended up being a touchdown
just because it felt like you want the ball back again to score.
That would have been the ultimate analytics right there.
It's like, you know what, we'll give you the lead with two minutes left
because I'm that confident in my ability to kick your ass.
And I don't, you know, each game
we leave each game having, you know, reactions like, oh, maybe the bills
suck or maybe their defense isn't that good.
I think they're fine.
I think they just played against a Titans team that was really, really
desperate for a win and also Derek Henry is fucking incredible.
Well, let's give credit where credits do also.
I think the best performance of the night last night was AJ Brown.
He was playing with food poisoning.
Yep. He was shitting himself.
Derek Henry said, I just made sure we had enough toilet paper for him.
So he was you could see it in his eyes, too.
Have you ever had food poisoning? Yes.
You feel like you're dead. Yeah, it's terrible.
It's like the worst feeling. Your body rejects everything.
You drink Gatorade and you puke.
Yeah. So he was just he was shitting himself during the game.
He was walking around sweating everywhere.
His eyes looked like they were dead, but he still went out there.
He had some awesome blocks and some important catches.
I can't I don't I don't get out of bed.
It's so tough for me.
If I have food poisoning, just the walk to the toilet.
Yes, it's painful. Yes.
And so credit to AJ Brown.
That's the most one of the most impressive athletic performances I've seen in a while.
I think the bills will be fine.
They have, I think the second easiest or easiest schedule
for the rest of the year. Yeah.
So they'll I still think they'll probably end up with the one seed
because they I mean, even their next three games, the bills play
the dolphins, the jaguars, the jets. Yeah. Those are the next three games.
I think they'll be OK. Well, it's also after bi weeks.
So they get to rest up, right?
Yes. And then the dolphins, the jaguars, the jets, then the Colts and the jets.
And yeah. So I in the Titans, I was thinking about this.
We were talking about how the Patriots are good enough to lose close to anyone.
The Titans, the Mike Rabel Titans are just they will just be able to win a big game.
Like they are a big game type team where they they might fall flat
in the one o'clock game against an inferior opponent.
But when you think about this Titans team,
they can get up for these big games.
They've beaten some they've won some big games.
And so they always have that like dangerous part to them.
We're like, I don't know.
Maybe the Titans will you'll get your A performance and they'll beat you.
Yeah, Mike, Mike for it.
Mike for able under the lights is a different.
The scowl. He was so mad.
Is he OK? He was so mad.
In the first half, he he looked just pissed off.
He was breaking the record for Scowls.
Yeah, I don't think he I don't think he said anything.
He was just there were a couple of times when he was just utterly disappointed
where you like shook his head.
Yeah, like his son just came home with a D minus on a test.
But yeah, Vrable, he'll coach good under the lights
and the Titans, they're physical.
Yeah, they can kick your ass.
They deserve credit, though.
So there's there's the Titans credit credit to the boy.
Taylor Luana, I heard he's doing well.
Yes, yes.
He gave a nice scary moment.
He gave it was that called the shocker hang loose.
The hang loose sign when he was right.
Where does that stand?
Billy, when you saw the hang loose, were you like, that's good.
But I wish he had done the ghost ride, the whip one.
It was a football guy move.
OK, doing the shocker, because it was just extra.
He could have just done thumbs up.
Yeah, yeah, the player that does horns down
is going to be my instant favorite as they're getting off the field.
Any any issues with my power rankings before we get to college football?
I've muted you early today, OK, because I knew they were coming.
You were ranked sixth out of the two win teams.
I honestly don't care.
It's second. I wasn't entitled to their opinion.
I actually I don't like that.
Big Cat, I would have ranked us seventh.
Yeah, seventh is the lowest.
I might be out on the football team.
It was funny because I did have some Patriots fans hitting me and being like,
how are the Colts ahead of the Patriots?
It's like, well, the Colts just smoked the Texans
and the Patriots barely beat the Texans. But yeah.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
But you could also do the eyeball test, Big Cat.
Yeah, you can eyeball test.
Listen, I think the I think the Colts eyeball test.
Hey, one and two is not bad.
Stump. If it was stumped the line, the Patriots and Colts would would on a neutral field.
Yeah. Well, that's not how this that's not how my it should be.
No, no, no, that's not what that is. Stumped the line is no, the data.
Yes. Stumped the line is just it has to be an actual matchup.
And we can go back and look at that previous game.
And what was the final score?
The the Texans won 34 three.
Oh, are you talking about which one?
Well, I'm talking about the Texans and the Patriots.
That was 25 22, I want to say.
Yeah, that's right.
So it would be Patriots minus three.
Yeah, that's the line.
No, you're you're and the Colts would be what 28 28 minus 28.
That's what's the line.
It was great rankings.
You know how to get interaction on it's not.
I'm they're unbiased.
Love it.
And we got to get mad.
We got not.
Don't get mad.
He says, Nick, right?
You are it.
You seem mad.
Getting replies.
Yeah, Nick, right?
You'd be happy that I ranked you number two.
No, I was.
I was thrilled.
OK, I'm thrilled.
Should we talk some college football?
Some some college football.
What do you got, Billy?
It was a sick weekend of college football.
There it is.
Way to start it off.
Not as good as high school football next week.
There's going to be no top 25 matchups.
Yeah, we got to save her this week.
You don't know that, though.
Wait, this week.
You mean we got to save her last week?
Last week, I mean, got it.
So this week there's none.
OK, got it.
Fair Purdue, though, gets the big Purdue.
Purdue wins the weekend with their performance
in Iowa City.
We mentioned it on Sunday, but the fact
that they've beaten the one or two ranked team nine times
is an unranked team is pretty crazy.
That's also like the beauty of college football,
because when people say, oh, college football,
you know who's going to make it to the final four every year,
like Alabama or Clemson are going to win.
A win like that for Purdue.
Like that can carry you for an entire year
if you're a Purdue fan.
You know what I mean?
Those are the wins that you're like, that was fucking awesome.
That can carry you through an off season, for sure.
I'm looking at the top 25 rankings right now,
and we talk about maybe getting a different color
into the final four.
Oh, it's bad.
So regardless.
It's bad right now.
It's all black and red.
Yes, unless Michigan crashes the party.
Michigan could potentially crash it,
but it's Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, Georgia,
all black and red, top to bottom.
Is there a blue blood you would like to jinx this week?
Because you did it to Notre Dame.
You did it twice to Texas, because they lost two in a row
now after you said, hey, they could make it.
But they could.
I actually think that Texas is getting better every week
with these awesome losses.
Did you see the horns down on the helmet?
I did.
Yeah, that was a sign.
I do think that Texas, the more they lose, the better they get.
So who would you like to jinx this week?
So this week, I would like to, wait,
Michigan is playing who?
Michigan is playing Northwest and they will win.
No, I'm not jinxing Michigan this weekend.
The big 10 matchups next the following week
are Michigan versus Michigan State and Penn State
versus Ohio State.
So we'll kind of figure a lot of things out.
I thought about jinxing Georgia.
OK.
I thought about jinxing him.
Shout out, Mark Stoops, calling timeouts to cover the spread.
That's a legend.
Knew exactly what he was doing.
That deserves coach of the year consideration just
for the fact that he called the timeout with three seconds
left down 23 points just to score a touchdown
and cover the spread.
Yeah, that was nice.
I would have liked if they had converted the extra point
because I had the over.
So that was tough because I celebrated that win
after the touchdown was scored.
Left Buffalo Wild Wings happy as a clam,
got into the car, opened up the score app, looked at it.
Damn.
I was like, they're missing a point here.
What happened?
Put it back on.
Put it back on.
Stoops, just up.
It would have been nice if you had made that extra point.
I appreciate you taking the time to actually try
to cover the spread, try to get me the over.
But the details matter.
So I think Georgia, I might be jinxing Georgia.
OK, they have Florida next week.
Oh, it's not this weekend.
It's not this weekend.
No, it's it's next weekend.
So that and that's Hanks, one to watch.
And then Richardson.
OK, yeah, I'm with the Hank.
I think that they could do it.
So in that case, I'll just say fuck it, Tennessee over Alabama.
Oh, OK.
It's as as Big T put it, it is the most important cultural
rivalry in the history of the South.
Yeah.
So again, it's it's very tough in college football.
You can't.
I do respect in some states break up over their rivalry.
Yeah, no, yeah, the Civil War happened down there.
And let's not forget Golden Corral versus Waffle House.
Yeah, there's a lot of rivalries.
Alabama, Tennessee is a fun rivalry.
They play at the same time every year.
The scars afterwards and everything.
It's just impossible to to be like,
this is the biggest rivalry when the team you're playing
has a bigger rival.
Yes, no, it would be like saying if I if if if you tried to say
like if I tried to say like Wisconsin versus Michigan
is the biggest rivalry in the Big 10.
It's like, but their biggest rivals, Ohio State, right?
You're swagger jacking their rivalry, right?
You can't do that.
You're leaching on to that.
It doesn't work like that.
Although I would say if you're if you're Alabama,
you probably have, I would say, LSU, Auburn, Georgia.
Yeah, they don't play very often.
Right.
Right.
But when they do, I'd say like.
But no, Tennessee, Alabama rivalry is something that they play
the same.
They I love the fact they play the third weekend of October
every single year.
They do the scars afterwards in the winter's locker room.
Like there is that it is a true rivalry.
It's a rivalry, but it's just not Alabama Auburn.
I'll say it's number three.
I would say LSU, Alabama feels like more of a rivalry right now.
Speaking of LSU, that's the big story we touched on it.
But Coach O is out.
He's going to finish out the term.
I really do think that it will be a maybe once in a lifetime
betting opportunity if they can get to a bowl game
and they try to ride one out for Coach O.
You know, it's crazy.
Coach O just made himself into an interim head coach.
Yes, he is for himself for himself.
Correct. Yes, I can't bet against that.
No, you cannot.
You cannot.
It sucks.
We love Coach O, but it was obviously I think everyone who follows
college football even a little bit knew it was coming.
Now, the biggest the best part about this is every single cook
is LSU is a top three job, I would say, in college football.
And I love this.
I love ranking.
Well, I mean, the staff that everyone keeps throwing out
and it is crazy to think the last three coaches at LSU all
won national titles.
So it tells you something right there.
But every coach in America is going to get asked about it.
Like Dabbo got asked about it.
Lane Kiffin got asked about it.
I'm sure Lincoln Riley would get asked about it.
Jimbo got Jimbo is the best because Jimbo.
He his quote was I plan on being here for a long time.
Wait.
No, no, that was his quote at Florida State before he left
Texas A&M.
OK, long subjective.
His his quote at Texas A&M was I plan on being here and
fulfilling this contract.
OK, got it. Got it.
It's also it's also like message board fanfic porn with this
contract situation.
So for anyone who doesn't know, Scott Woodward is the AD at LSU.
He's going out to try to find the new coach.
He was the AD at Texas A&M when he hired Jimbo Fisher.
They put into the contract that there is no buyout if Jimbo
Fisher wants to leave.
Yeah. So now he can go get Jimbo Fisher and not have to pay
a buyout so people could make the argument that he basically
is a time traveler and he set this whole thing up in a in a
sequence of events that he can go get Jimbo Fisher again.
And the contract that he wrote makes it not punitive to to
getting Jim. Right.
You just accurately described what would happen if like if
House of Cards had a three season long runway to plan
something out.
This is exactly how it's awesome.
And at the end with Jimbo Fisher slamming his Aggie ring
into the desk.
It's incredible.
I'm saying, all right, let's get to work.
I'm calling the people out there right now.
If you have flight tracking software, an active member of
a college football message board.
Now's the time.
I need you more than ever.
I need to get all over this plane tracking situation.
Yes, I need that tail number.
I need that sent to me stat every time they depart from an
airport.
I need to start connecting dots.
Doesn't matter what town they're flying into.
I can find a football coach that's somehow related to any
major airport in the United States.
Just keep me informed of it because flight tracking season
is my favorite.
So let's stay on top of it.
You guys have a very big task ahead of you.
I hope who would you like to see?
I hope they hire Lane Kiffin because then Lane Kiffin can
hire Coach Oh, yeah, I would like their like best friends.
Lane Lane Kiffin would be a good one just because I'd like
to see him stay.
I'd like to see him coach for every single team.
Yeah, yeah.
In the SEC.
Yes.
Outside of that, I don't know.
I think you got to you got to consider at least bringing Joe
Brady back.
You got to you got to feel him out and you have to ask, do you
want to be a professional coach?
Because he's going to get the problem with Joe Brady is as
long as the Panthers don't screw up too badly.
Yeah, he's going to get head coaching interest this off season.
So the reason in the NFL.
So yeah, you have to at least start asking questions which
the Panthers are kind of screwing up right now.
There's kind of screwing up right now, but he still has the
ace in the hole of well, Sam Darnold kind of stinks and also
Christian Caffery's hurt injured.
The so the only reason I would think maybe not Joe Brady is
Scott Woodward, the AD.
Apparently he is like all he wants is like a trophy.
You know, like a trophy like hire.
So he was the guy who also hired Chris Peterson out in
Washington when he hired him there from Boise, which would
everyone shocked for that.
So he's a splash guy.
Joe Brady might not be the splash.
Like I would hit Lincoln Riley would be the splash.
You know what I mean?
Like getting Lincoln Riley before Oklahoma comes to the SEC.
That would be awesome for rivalries and just crazy stories.
Joe Brady is not he's not a splash, but I think since he has
that history of winning a national championship and he's
basically him and Inzminger.
Is that how you say his name?
Yeah, the other office coordinator.
They're credited with that championship just as much as
Coach O is to a certain extent because of what they did with
Joe Burrow.
I think I think people will be happy.
Maybe urban.
I would say I was going to say urban Meyer would be another one
to look at.
Because as long as you don't do it to any of like the the
Dean's wives, urban, then it might be fair game.
It's just Louisiana.
Who cares?
It's it's fun to have all this, you know, intrigue because
again, it's and sucks for it.
USC because LSU is a better job than USC.
So now they have to get maybe seconds.
Who knows?
You think LSU is a better job than USC because the competition is
like there's no no one competes with LSU now in Louisiana.
Yeah.
So it's they don't have the in state talent they get to keep.
Right.
That to me, that's a close one.
I guess USC is really falling off a lot in the last 10 years.
Yeah.
And it's I mean, again, it is it's hard to argue against the fact
that the last three LSU coaches is one national title.
It feels like you can you just go there and you can win a national title.
Anything else from college football?
Anything else? WSU fired their coach.
Yes.
Washington State.
Roll of it.
This roll of itch is out, but I'm not sure why they fired him now,
as opposed to firing him a month ago, because they essentially fired him
for not getting vaccinated.
Yes. Right.
Well, they they suck.
Let's go to pro football doc.
Billy, do you know why they fired him?
Probably bad papers.
Papers, bad papers.
Bad papers.
What do you mean?
Might have given out some fake papers.
Oh, he was he had.
Oh, I I can't confirm that.
OK, this is just speculation from those complete
spectacular cane.
Yeah, Vander Cane, Vander Cane.
So it's like that probably would have been.
They would have said that's the reason they fired.
Yeah, probably.
Also, he's been saying for like.
And he's so anti-vaxx.
Yeah, he's so anti-vaxx.
He wouldn't have tried to fake it.
Why did they why do they wait this long?
If this has been like a known thing.
I think they gave him an ultimatum.
Oh, they set a date.
Yeah, they're like, you have until this day to get back.
Yeah, speculation.
But like, and then on that date, he handed a bad piece of paper.
That makes sense.
OK, so a combination.
Yeah.
Coach, I should coach for them.
Who's speculation is this, Billy?
Are you speculating this?
I'm speculating.
Am I not allowed to speculate?
No, I'm just making sure.
No, you can speculate.
Just say this is my original speculation.
This is a Billy football speculation.
Not a part of my take speculation.
That way, legally, you're going to get sued, not us.
Parity.
Parity law.
Yes.
That was actually just a prank.
A bro football doc speculation.
Which is a parody of Billy.
Right.
Got it.
OK.
Also, Coach O speculated to Miami from Billy.
Not as head coach.
As head coach.
Whoa, OK.
I think Coach O will probably have a year or two
where he maybe goes as an assistant coach somewhere.
I think Coach O.
He'd love it down in Miami.
Yeah.
It's where he coached those defensive lines.
That's why.
Yeah.
I think Coach O would love it on College Game Day.
I think he'd be awesome on TV.
God, no.
You don't think so?
What?
Going to a different college campus.
Having to wear a shirt and tie.
Yeah.
No, that no.
Talking to producers.
Yeah.
It's not the window.
Think about the closed captioning.
Yeah.
OK, Coach O, here's a bunch of stats and things
you need to know.
And you're like, what?
I mean, do you watch College Game Day ever?
A lot of times, they just talk.
Yeah.
Just guys shooting the shit.
By the way, I didn't even tell the story.
I went to, when we went to Knoxville, we landed.
And the Herb Street and Bear, who we love Bear,
were on the tarmac when we landed,
because I think they were stopping over.
Kerr Kerb Street has the bluest eyes of all time.
I was shocked.
I was taken aback, breathless.
So if we go out to dinner with him, we should be ready.
We're going to fuck him?
Things might get out of hand.
If you look at those eyes long enough, yeah.
All right, if he starts ordering the oysters in the red wine.
Dude, Caribbean blue.
OK.
I was shocked.
Yeah.
I was like, oh my god.
All right, now I'm a little bit worried.
Yes.
I'm just saying.
Just want to let everyone know.
I won Best Eyes class of 2014, Burkwood High.
Did they know that you were color blind?
I don't even know what color they are,
but other people like to my girls.
You do have good eyes.
Well, not good.
You have good color eyes.
They're good eyes for us.
Yeah, they're good eyes for us.
They don't work.
They suck for you.
Yeah.
Good to look at.
Yeah, good to look.
Oh, nice, Billy.
All right, let's do Hot Seed Cool Throne.
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We will actually be Hank, PFT and I will be in Denver
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Yep, Ballpark Tavern, I want to say.
That sounds right.
It's near the field.
It's right near the field.
Yeah, it's going to be sick.
We're going to watch Thursday Night Football, Pup Punk.
It's going to be awesome.
Yeah, Pup Punk is playing.
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All right, Hot Sea Cool Throne.
Hank.
My hot seat, big cat is your boy, Chris Broussard.
What?
What'd he do?
He just accidentally said that Taylor Luan was on the bills.
Was he emailing Bruce Allen?
He said that the reason, the only reason the Titans won
is because Taylor Luan was injured.
Implying that, that was why the bills didn't get a fourth down.
Yeah, no, he actually went as far to say that was the side
that he was, the left side of the line
is where it got blown up, where Taylor Luan used to be.
My hot seat was going to be anyone
who fell for that classic prank, Chris Broussard,
just keeping you on your toes.
Chris Broussard is really good at faking being ignorant.
Yeah.
About everything.
You fell for it, dude.
Yeah, it did.
Hook, line, and sinker.
What are you thinking?
Guess what?
You're talking about him right now.
Yeah.
Confirm.
Great.
Chris Broussard lives rent free in Hank's head.
Yeah.
Greatest clip ever of when Chris Broussard,
when LeBron wrote a story in Sports Illustrated
and Chris Broussard looked at his phone
on the set of Sports Centers like, yup, confirmed.
LeBron de Cleveland's like, well,
LeBron literally wrote the story in Sports Illustrated.
That's his second source.
Yeah.
He's like, yup, I'm seeing it, confirmed.
All right, so I guess Hot Seat, me,
if you're thinking that.
Big time Hot Seat.
I would be in the Hot Seat.
My cool throne is Red Sox fans.
I guess Hot Seat could be whoever produces the Fox baseball
show.
I don't know if you guys saw this or if you kept the game on.
I kind of just kept the game on and wasn't paying attention.
And then the post game show was on and I tuned in.
And they did it outside, right outside the stadium.
The fans were so loud that they were making conversation
and you could not hear a single.
If you were trying to hear what A-Rod and Big Poppy and Frank
Thompson were saying, you couldn't hear them
because you could just hear constant people screaming,
then they started going at A-Rod hard.
People A-Rod has had a good image reversal in the past 10,
20 years.
Yeah, great.
You'll like them generally.
Everyone.
Red Sox fans fucking still hate him
because they were just like, started chanting,
Aflac, like, fuck you, A-Rod.
At one point, the show was just muted for like two minutes
because it was like, and they just had to mute it
because you could hear the fans so clearly.
It was super, super loud.
He felt like a World Series atmosphere.
So let's talk.
And A-Rod was pretending to love it,
but there's just no way he was.
Oh, he loved it.
He goes to flow, dude.
Yeah, because that's not a real.
JLo and Aflac are doing it for fun.
Are you saying Aflac, like the insurance commercial?
Yeah, Aflac.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they're doing.
It was an insurance.
It's a viral commercial for Aflac.
Let's talk baseball real quick, though, Hank.
We were talking about it before, but it's just crazy
that the Red Sox are just going to win the World Series again.
It feels like it.
They're not like.
Feels like 13.
It's just the whole year.
Oh, no, wait, that was 19 was the last one.
The whole year, they're like, oh, knock.
I think it was 18.
18, sorry.
They're not that good.
They're not that good.
Oh, but now they're just the best team in baseball.
Yeah.
They're like killing the Astros.
Killing them.
They haven't had a start to get past the third inning.
It's crazy.
So the last three games.
Like they were down six, and they were like, just
we have to get more innings out of this pitcher.
We don't even care about like not giving up runs.
Like they just they have no bullpen.
Yeah, so who are Yankees fans rooting for, by the way?
Are they are they still hating the Astros?
Do they still have that lingering resentment?
They're probably not even watching the series.
Yeah, they're in trouble.
They're beyond bad.
Yeah, down real bad.
Real bad.
So with the Red Sox, they're smashing so hard.
I've thought about doing those bets the last three games,
where I bet against a player to hit a home run in each game.
Every player that I've almost hit,
submitted the bet button on, responsibly,
has ended up going yard that game.
Yes.
It's been really like Dave Schwarber's a monster.
Somebody knew every night Schwarber's hitting
balls to the moon.
I love them so much.
You're welcome, Hank.
They showed us that last night.
Thanks for the cat.
Every team in the playoffs and the Red Sox have hit,
I think, 19 home runs, I said, and the team is second.
I said, eight.
It's crazy.
They also have eight out of 10 or something,
Grand Slam's in ALCS history.
It's fucking insane.
I don't know.
They just somehow are the best team in baseball.
And then the Dodgers, by the time you're listening to this,
you will know if the Dodgers are dead.
But Charlie Morton playing, starting for the Braves,
he's pretty fucking good.
It would be crazy if it was the Braves in the World Series,
because that just feels like a franchise that is always cursed.
Yeah.
I mean, they'll always have 95, right?
Yeah, 95.
That was big.
13 NLEs in a row.
Really ruined my plans from a few shows ago.
What?
Turns out that the home field advantage isn't won
by the All-Star game anymore.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
And so if they Red Sox play the Braves,
they won't have home field.
That's right.
That's right.
Braves don't really have home field.
It's not.
Yeah.
Full-In County Stadium anymore.
Legendary.
Legendary place.
No, it's not even turf.
I know.
If the Red Sox play the Braves, they will have home field,
but then they won't play the weekend games.
I don't know.
They will have home field?
They, the Braves are the only team
that they would have home field against.
Got it.
They had a better record than the Braves.
Then we get that, we get the nice storyline
of the Boston Braves.
Yeah.
Boston Red Sox.
Although Mookie going back up against the Red Sox
would be interesting.
Yeah, it would.
And Joe Kelly.
On the Dodgers.
I knew that.
Yep.
My hot seat is Billy.
Billy's on the hot seat.
Because Billy got out-alphaed by Carl Anthony Towns,
who prepares for every game now in the NBA
by watching a video of gorillas fighting to the death
to pump him up.
Something that I don't think Billy's ever done in his life
or even considered.
That's too hard for you.
No, that's because that video that he watches,
the gorillas don't actually die.
I know exactly what video he's talking about.
It's a fake gorilla death.
It's a fake gorilla snuff tape.
But isn't Carl Anthony Towns like one
of the criticisms that he plays kind of soft for a big man?
Well, that's how he started.
He's trying to hide himself up.
Got it.
He's trying to turn himself into a beast.
This will fix it.
Yeah, yeah.
So Billy, so you've seen this video.
I've seen the video.
How do you know that?
Because it's the video of the two gorillas.
Could it be possible that there's more than one video
of two gorillas fighting?
Look, as someone who scours the internet
for those types of videos, the one video that
comes closest to it is two gorillas fighting in a zoo
and everyone in the background is yelling,
get the zookeeper as if the zookeeper is
going to hop in there and fight the two gorillas off.
I've seen that one.
That's the one he's talking about.
How do you know?
Because there's no other gorilla death videos.
There's no other gorilla.
OK.
That's the best gorilla fight video on the internet.
Jake, can you?
Undisputed?
Undisputed.
Did you guys see the Harambe statue down in Wall Street?
Yeah, yeah.
Sweet prince.
Our sweet prince.
Gone too soon.
Just started getting over that.
Age strong together.
I think it's too soon to have that statue.
What if he had bad tweets?
Yeah, that's true.
We got to figure it out.
I actually rewatched the video.
Yeah.
And you think they should have shot the kid?
Harambe was kind of slinging that baby around.
Yeah, yeah.
That's just because he was so nurturing.
He was saving it, yeah.
The kid was going to drown.
He's a gorilla.
He's a gorilla.
Yeah, Mike Francesa.
All right, your cool throne, Pete.
My cool throne is Aaron Boone.
Because Aaron Boone, as we alluded to earlier,
the Yankees fans are down pretty bad right now.
But no fear.
Aaron Boone just got an extension.
And general manager Brian Cashman said,
Aaron Boone is the solution.
He isn't the problem.
So congratulations.
All your problems have been solved.
Aaron Boone will now be your manager moving forward.
So you should be very confident in that.
I love it.
I love it too.
Aaron Boone and.
I think he's both.
The problem and the solution.
He's the fourth winningest Yankee manager of all time.
He's the first Yankee manager since 1922
to have his fifth year without winning a title.
So that's some good continuity.
Also, Yankee fans are just they're completely
glossing over the fact that Hal Steinbrenner gave Aaron
Boone this contract, but demanded that they be better.
So the problem solved.
The thing that doesn't make sense is they
fired Joe Girardi nine innings away from going to the World
Series in 2017 when they were the baby bombers with Judge
Claibor Torrez, he wasn't even on the team yet.
I don't think it was all the young guys and they overachieved.
And then you have this terrible run of four years
and he gets an extension.
Yeah, I think you I think you got a fire manager with braces,
though.
To me, that was that was an issue from the get go with Girardi.
It's tough to lead a locker room.
He won the World Series with them.
Aaron judges out there and he needs braces,
but he doesn't get them.
Oh, he fixed them.
Oh, he did.
He fixed the gap.
Smart, smart move.
But yeah, as far as Aaron Boone goes,
I think his face just doesn't give me any confidence
that he's going to be able to lead.
I think they should have kept Girardi.
I think so, too.
I think that's probably if you had a time machine.
You go back.
What do you call it?
What's the major league baseball equivalent of a confetti
quarterback but except for a manager?
Manager.
Like a champagne manager.
Yeah.
Goggle, a ski goggle manager.
Ski goggle manager.
Yeah.
That was Girardi.
Yeah, he was a ski goggle.
Aaron Boone, not a ski goggle.
Not a ski goggle manager.
Or they can just make a new stadium
because they want it in the first year of the unique stadium.
They might actually take you up on that.
Yeah, that actually is.
Don't give Hal some ideas.
All right, my hot seat was Hank because he
fell for the classic prank, Chris Busard.
My cool drone is chili because chili season is back.
Finally, we're under 60 degrees.
I had it last night.
I did, too.
Thanks, too.
It's great.
Under 60 degrees, it's just nice that we're
in that crisp fall weather.
So some people talk about soup season coming back.
Soup season, you never stopped.
Nobody should ever stop with soup season.
Chili is tough to eat in August.
Chili is a different animal altogether.
Chili season has a season.
Yeah, it weighs heavy.
And it's great.
It's the best.
Chili season is about wearing a sweatshirt,
eating some chili, getting toasty on the insides,
and shitting your brains out.
Leftover chili.
Once they all start to marry the flavors,
get to know each other in the pot.
It's the best.
So welcome to chili season.
Jake.
My hot seat is Waffle House employees.
So some waitress pulled a gun on someone who ordered
cheese eggs because there was a miscommunication on one.
I don't know if there should be cheese on the eggs or not.
I'm struggling to find where the miscommunication could
be for cheese eggs.
She said, or excuse me, the person, the victim, said,
they didn't bring them to me.
Then they brought me normal eggs.
And I said I ordered eggs with cheese on it.
It was all normal, dispute over food.
And that at all.
Huh.
I feel like that's something Waffle House employees sign
off on, though.
I don't think that's anything.
Waffle House employees should be authorized to carry handguns.
I think that's fine.
Over cheese eggs?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's their call.
Once you enter a Waffle House, you acknowledge.
It's like if you walk into an amusement park
and it says, by crossing this point,
you accept the risk of death.
Yes.
That's the price you pay for going into a Waffle House
and getting to eat their patty melts and their grits
and their smothered, covered, chunk peppered, diced hash
browns.
And order 10 different meals and have the bill be $14.
Yeah.
You know what the best move at Waffle House is?
Drinking accidentally four more cups of coffee
than you ever would have if they weren't just walking by all
the time being like, need a refill on?
Fair.
My cool throne is minor league baseball.
So until this year, they've been dealing
with the firefests of themselves.
They weren't getting housing.
Now they're getting housing.
Oh.
There's guys like pictures, true firefests,
just sleeping on a mattress on the floor.
So now they have housing.
Now they have housing.
Wow.
They're good for them.
Big up.
Stick up a little guy.
Isn't that technically human trafficking?
I don't know.
That seemed before you give them housing.
That seemed kind of fucked up.
Yeah.
So that's being changed.
OK.
So good for the minor league.
Good for them.
Yeah.
Problem solved.
Sounds like they're in a good position financially.
Yeah, everything's good now.
Billy.
My hot seat is everyone, especially
college football landscape, because Nick Saban apparently
suffered a bruise when Texas A&M stormed the field.
And he showed it to everyone at a press conference.
And he's been acting pretty erratically.
We have the most dangerous animals, a hurt animal.
And I think we have that on our hands with Nick Saban.
He was going after.
Isn't it frightened animal or scared?
Because if you're hurt, injured, an injured animal.
But don't the coyotes go after the injured animals?
No, but the injured animals are the most vicious.
OK.
These are defense animals.
I'm sorry.
Cornered cat.
Exactly.
Yeah, OK.
But yeah, he was going after Bill O'Brien for a wasted time
out, so just watch that storyline.
Also, hot seat, people watch TikTok.
Turns out a bunch of high school girls in Texas
have started to develop certain nervous tics,
because they've been watching too much TikTok,
and start yelling out beans randomly.
And it's actually a highly recorded epic.
Like, over 100 people are recording yelling beans.
This is terrible, Billy.
You think this is crazy, but no, I don't.
I believe you.
I don't even want to watch the TikToks that are causing it,
but it's not fake.
Yeah.
Wait, so all you have to do is watch a TikTok,
and then it spreads to you.
Beans!
Oh, shit, I have it, too.
No, it's real.
I can't tell if this is a long-gated, silly bit.
They think it.
Well, he always can claim bit.
No, he's not bidding right now.
This is not bit.
Did you guys see this story?
No.
Well, then you didn't see that they're
contracting a certain type of.
A beans disease?
Yeah, they're yelling beans and other things.
I actually got that, too, when I was in high school,
except it was penis.
And everyone would just yell penis.
And when we went to the guy in trouble, we said, no,
it's actually just a nervous tick.
Yeah.
Yeah, or the time then, remember that story about the kid
who drew the dicks all over the place?
And remember the three games?
This game, everyone couldn't lift their arms up,
and their hands were in threes, and they put it
below their waist.
What about that one school that had,
it was like their homecoming, and there
were three pigs that were running around the hallway,
pig one, pig two, and pig four.
Then they spent the next week looking for pig three.
That was real, too.
Classic.
All right, this is Wall Street Journal did write about it.
Seriously, there's a bunch of younger people
who just yell in random shit.
And there's like things like that.
They're saying it in a British accent?
Yeah, because there's a British tick
tocker who just yells beans all the time,
and these girls can't stop yelling beans,
and they're going to the hospital for it.
Okay, I'm going to believe you.
It's real.
Banes.
Banes.
Banes.
We're going to catch it.
Banes.
Banes.
Oh, you're cool throwing Billy.
Spanes, isn't it?
My cool throw is turnover props.
University of Las Vegas has a new turnover prop.
It is a slot machine, and it always wins.
Oh, it's so awesome.
I saw it.
It was pretty lit.
Even though they're 0 and 6, like going to the sideline
after a turnover, a touchdown, and pulling the levers,
got to be pretty lit.
Yeah.
Then having to go ka-ching all over the stadium.
I like that.
That's my hot seat.
It's very cool.
It's very cool.
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And now, here's Paul Bissonette.
OK, we now welcome on our very good friend.
It is Paul Bissonette.
Bissonette.
He doesn't go by Bissonette anymore.
He goes by it.
Who do I go by?
Missonette.
Yeah.
No, wait, you don't go by Bissnasty, right?
Yeah, I do.
Well, I don't.
I mean, it was given to me when I was early age playing hockey.
And I think it's a little bit douchey in your 30s
where people are like, yo, what's up, Bissnasty?
And you're like 36 years old across the street.
Yeah, how did you get the nickname Bissnasty?
Because I feel like in hockey, it's
very simple how you get the nicknames.
It's either you add an O onto their name,
or you add like a KY onto whatever their name is.
Busy.
But you got, yeah, you should have been busy.
But you were, you did something so nasty
that even for a hockey player, it stood out,
and they gave you the nickname Bissnasty.
Doesn't sound like you did it on the ice.
Yeah, I think everybody's well aware
who this is a spittin' tricklet's podcast of why I got my nickname.
Yeah, it had a lot to do with my early day antics
in the American Hockey League, and it was given to me
by a buddy named Steven Dixon.
Oh, what did you call him?
Was he Dicky?
Dicky, yeah, Dicky.
Dicko.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Dixie?
Dixie?
From the last time I was here, congratulations
to Billy Football, he graduated.
Yeah, full time, graduated, everything.
He's ready to go.
Political economics.
Yeah.
Is that what it is?
Gender studies is what he majored in.
I don't even know what that means.
It's dual major between political science and economics.
So it's a little multifaceted.
The hybrid.
If you have two majors, you don't have one.
Billy's going to.
Well, it's a combined.
Basically, Billy's going to run the world one day.
He is the future.
Through blogs.
Yeah.
He is the future.
We didn't congratulate you, by the way.
Mr. TNT, on Wednesday nights, you
can find biz in some terrible looking suits.
Oh, worst suits ever.
Ever.
What was the thought process there?
Because you knew.
I would imagine that TNT didn't ask you to come on the day
before.
You knew for what, six months, a year,
that you were going to be on national television,
and you still showed up in that suit?
No, I would say I probably had about two and a half months
notice, and I finally found somebody
that I could get suits off of and trusted,
and we're going back and forth, and we're struggling.
The good news is, is I had ones that I'd bought in about five
years ago that have lasted me.
They fit me well.
They're just a little bit beat up.
The blue one, maybe, is a little bit tough,
but I think because I just got the new ones in
and they didn't fit properly, I'm
going to have to go back to the hockey
net and cat on acid blue blazer that I had in my warm-up
routine.
So I'm rotating three suits currently,
which is not good when you're on national TV every week.
Yeah, but that's also, listen, the suit game is very tough.
I've only had one blazer for a very long time.
It's tough.
It's tough to find a good fit in high quality,
even though you're paying the amount of money.
Have you thought about rocking the sweater vest?
Because I think, personally, that you need to outdo Wayne.
I think the way that you're going to outflip him on that set.
I don't think anyone's ever called him just Wayne.
Where would I get a nice sweater vest?
Where would I get a nice sweater vest?
This guy, Wayne, is on the show with you?
What's his name?
Gretzko?
The great one.
Gretzko.
I call him Wayno.
Wayno.
Wayno.
Yeah, I didn't know how that was going to.
And how to go?
I think he likes it.
Were you, now, are you, obviously, he had to have been a hero
of yours, right?
Yeah, I bought the Gretzky aluminum when I was growing up.
I mean, mind you, when he was damaging the league the way
he was when he was shattering records,
I was still very, very young.
Right, yeah.
But still, he's the goat.
Yes, he's the greatest of all time.
I would say the most, at that time,
the most dominant athlete to their sport
at that particular time.
So when you first, you had met him before,
but this is your first time working with him
in like an extensive situation here.
So you're on TNT with him on Wednesday nights.
Is there any amount of you that's like starstruck?
Do you have to get over that?
Well, I mean, at first, but he does such a good job
of like calming everyone down.
He's just like a regular guy.
And one thing he's unreal at is remembering
all these old school stories,
and he can deliver them like they happened yesterday.
Like, I don't know how he remembers
all these stories throughout the years.
I mean, some of what he shares on air,
some of which are more behind the scenes,
but I hope that there's gonna become the right time
where he can eventually tell a bunch of these things on air.
Yeah.
Because you're just left in awe.
So, I mean, he befriended me pretty quick.
I mean, he FaceTimed me after we did our practice round.
We went there a couple of weeks ago,
and then like all that weekend,
like he was keeping in contact through tech.
So I was like, I felt like the fuck, I felt like the man.
That's pretty cool.
Is he emojis?
He's not an emoji guy, no.
Gift guy?
Does he emphasize?
What does emphasize mean?
Like when you get, do you have an iPhone?
I have an iPhone, yeah.
So when you get like the thumbs up,
or you get like the heart that comes off of a message.
I think, yeah, he might be an emphasizing.
Yeah.
Yeah, come and think of it.
Like when you hold on to something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.
Yeah, either him or his son, Ty, who's helping out with us.
Oh, so the size kind of the go-between?
Used to be in the Cubs organization.
No, Trevor was.
Trevor was drafted as a baseball player.
Very close.
He does some acting.
Now, he was actually just in that recent,
they did a reboot of the Sawz.
And who's the one guy, God, I'm drawing a blank.
Is it Chris Rock?
I think Chris Rock was in it.
Is that true?
Google it.
Do something, Hank, for fuck's sakes.
Paul, how many goals do you think you would have scored
if you played in Wayne Gretzky's era?
More or less than Gretzky did?
More, because everybody was boozing
and having a good time off the ice.
So I felt like it was like an even keel process
where everyone was kind of in agreement.
Hey, we're gonna get banged up after every single game.
We're gonna have a boatload of fun.
The only thing that changed, though,
is the amount that guys were making.
Like it became more serious because salaries started
becoming crazier and crazier.
Back in like the 80s, like if you were making
a good contract, you were making like a hundred grand.
It's crazy.
Who else is on the show?
Rick Tauquette, who actually played a little bit with Wayne
and then he helped coach with him as well.
So Tauquette won a Stanley Cup
with the Pittsburgh Penguins with Mario.
I believe after that, at some point,
he got shipped off to L.A. where he played with him.
So he's coached the last couple of years
with the Arizona Coyotes.
He won two Stanley Cups as an assistant
in Pittsburgh.
He was a head coach in Tampa at some point.
So he's just been around the game forever
and has a lot of insight and things to talk about.
Anson Carter is another guy, had a great career,
played with the Siddheens.
And then, and then Liam McKeon.
Not allowed to call him the Siddheen sisters.
I would never do that.
No, no one has ever done that.
Who made that mistake?
Jamie Ben?
I wanna say.
Or was it second?
I can't remember.
Nobody on radio said it and the internet blew up.
You gotta be careful what you say in hockey
because the media tends to lean very much towards the left.
So you don't wanna overstep your boundaries
because they will make you pay.
Well, what about this?
If you had to rank like any of your co-hosts on TNT
that you had to.
Oh, was it Dave Bowling?
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, he did it on radio.
Well, my apologies.
I'll take back the Ben in second.
I thought it was someone from Dallas.
So who would you have a threesome with on this set?
Like between all of us.
I don't know, like Gretzky.
You know what?
I'm gonna step in and not even let you answer that question
because I don't want the hockey media.
Did you guys see Charles there, that first one?
Yeah, I did.
That was great.
That was great.
How come you didn't get a chance to shoot on Charles?
Because they wanted Wayne too.
They wanted the greats going against the greats.
I did like your analysis, though,
when they had a question for you about the power play
and what you would have done in this position
and you were just like, I don't know.
I would have been on the ice.
I was like, yep, I can't contribute in this area.
That's just me keeping my credibility
exactly where it needs to be.
Yeah, you're honest.
I actually do think that has,
how many times have people have turned or been like,
you're going to be the Charles Barkley of hockey?
They don't say anything.
That's like the beauty of it there.
They say, hey, bring what you normally bring
and you throw it all together and we'll see what works.
So I mean, yeah, I tend to try to bring it
a little bit more lighthearted
because I don't necessarily have the credibility
that the other guys on the panel do.
I think Anson played 10 years,
maybe a little bit above that.
I mean, Tauquette had the career that he's had.
He's actually getting inducted
into the Philadelphia Flyers Hall of Fame.
Like that ring of honor there.
So I don't know if he's eventually going to be a Hall of Famer
but he actually set the NHL record for,
we got Wayne with all the records that he's got
and Tauquette's got one record, most Gordie Howe-Hatrix.
Oh!
Yeah, which is cool.
He's got 18 of them where he got a goal
and an assist and a fight.
So Tauquette played for the Flyers during that era
where they had six heavyweights on the team
and nobody fucked around like...
Broad Street Bullies.
He told us a story of where,
I think it was the Rangers called up Dale Purrington
and he was getting all amped up and warm up,
kind of trying to send the message across.
You skate close to the red line and stuff.
And they had Craig Barube on their team.
And after a couple shifts of him running around,
he went up to Brian Leach
and he starts stretching on their bench,
like stretching his hamstring.
He goes, Leach, he goes, he goes, I'll fight him
but I'm gonna jump you unless you tell him to calm down.
And then Leach, he went down the bench.
He was like, hey, Dale,
I think you're done running around tonight.
Because Barube was nothing, he was no joke, man.
He would fucking go toe-to-toe.
And as Tauquette said, he goes,
if I was ever in a bar fight,
if there was one guy I didn't want
who just won the Wires Cross,
I don't think I'd ever see him lose a fight.
It's Craig Barube.
So he basically bullied the St. Louis Blues
into winning a Stanley Cup,
but that's if I could take it there.
So you went out to dinner with Chuck and Gretzky.
I was out, yeah, I was out for them.
How was that?
It was great, man.
I was picking Chuck's brain on just how he felt
coming into his, inside the NBA when he did
and what we should come to expect.
What if the game's a little bit boring?
And he's like, man, honestly, just be honest about it.
Maybe turn on another game and start gambling on it.
Not seriously, but he just kind of,
he definitely calmed things down.
And then when we had him on
after our first segment to open the show,
just his humor and the fact that he'd been there
and done that, I think it really eased up everybody else
where we were able to,
I thought we execute a pretty good first show.
So we're trying to, we're trying to figure it out.
We're trying to be as entertaining as what people want
and elevate the game.
So just having him, not only be there,
but also talk to us the night before was nice.
And he actually, he is a hockey fan.
He's a huge hockey fan.
I think he's a Blackhawks fan, isn't he?
I think he hops around.
I think he's on the Bieber plan.
Where they just, whoever, whatever arena he's in,
he's put the jersey on.
I remember I've seen him at a couple Hawks games.
So that's why I thought, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, that's not, I mean, he's, he's,
that's a good plan to be on if you're
what was a die hard hockey fan.
What was his order at dinner?
Ooh, good question.
Charles Barkley, wait, let me guess.
What do you think?
Yeah, what do you think Charles Barkley got?
I think he got the biggest steak out there.
Yeah, steak, mashed potatoes.
Oh no, did he get chicken at a steakhouse?
No, he got a burger without the bun.
Oh my God.
Charles is trying to watch his weight.
What do you mean?
I respect the order.
He's watching himself.
Chuck strikes me and this is speaking from experience.
Are you trying to, are you trying to like anti-fat chain?
No, no, what I'm saying is Chuck strikes me as,
again, speaking from experience,
as a guy who orders a burger without a bun
when you're out with company and then goes home
and crushes a bunch of ice cream.
Cause you don't want to, you don't want to seem
like the fat guy in front of other people,
but then when you get home and the company are on home.
I think he looks good.
I mean, he's golfing a lot.
He looks good.
I mean, when I'm that age,
I'll probably have a cup of LBs on me.
Yeah, maybe, I like to think what he's doing is
he's going out, getting the burger without the bun
so that he can have all those cocktails and beers
with dinner.
Like you get, you gotta push and pull sometimes, right?
So it's like, yeah, if I get no bun on this burger,
then I can have three more whiskey sours.
That's another way of looking at it.
You got a calorie count when you're that age.
Yes.
All right, let's talk some hockey.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's talk about this season.
The coyotes stink.
Coyotes are not looking good.
They're in full tank mode for Shane Wright,
who's an up and comer.
Like, you know, every so often you get a guy
who's going to be like a generational player
and they're thinking that this Shane Wright kid
is the real deal.
He played as a double underager in the OHL.
What does that mean?
So I was drafted in the first two rounds
of my OHL draft when I was 16 years old.
That made me eligible so I could play as a 16 year old.
This kid was so special that they were like,
hey, he shouldn't even wait another year to be drafted
to play against kids from 16 to 20
because he's just going to light these kids up
in junior B or wherever he is.
So we need him going up and playing the highest level
of possible hockey in Canada at the age of 15.
And I think he, yeah, I think he led his team in scoring.
So he was 15 playing against 20 year olds.
Yeah, and then that second year when he was an underage,
he was a captain of the team and he's just,
he's the real deal.
It seems as if he can handle the pressure
every year he's coming back.
He's basically on the trajectory
where he would be like a similar to like a Crosby.
You never know if they're going to eventually live up to that
because so Connor McDavid was another kid
who was a double underager.
And he's the next guy who in the OHL
has been a double underage.
So the pressure's on, right?
And you don't know how some of these guys
are going to mount to it if it's going to affect them,
but he is just so hyper focused on it
and he's doing an incredible job.
So that's where they're going.
You got to get worse before you get better.
And especially in the NHL, like coyotes have always been,
I think the best they've ever drafted is third.
You need to get those generational players
to start somewhere.
Pittsburgh got it, Washington got it with Ovechkin.
Blackhawks, Kane and Taves.
Yeah, like, yeah, so Taves was a third overall pick.
I want to say Kane was first.
Yeah.
So yeah, they were fortunate where,
because even that third overall pick sometimes,
it doesn't end up paying out, it's dicey.
It's very dicey.
I mean, and not to take it in any way from Dylan Strom,
but Dylan Strom was a third overall pick for the coyotes.
Kyle Turris, I believe, was a third overall pick
for the coyotes.
So I'm really hoping, and it sucks that a team
has to go through a year where they're going to lose
as much as they're probably going to lose.
But for the betterment of the organization,
tank for Shane Wright.
OK, so what's this game like?
Shano.
Is he a Shano?
Yeah, we've got to give him a nickname right now.
Shano.
Or Reitzke.
Reitzke or Shano?
I like Shano.
Shansky?
Whatever the fuck you guys want.
You guys are the nickname guys.
I don't give a shit.
Righto.
Shane Nasty?
Shane Nasty.
Shane Nasty, we got it, boys.
We got it.
Yeah, what's this game like?
It's going to have to fuck a donkey like you did in ATHL.
What?
What's it get Shane Nasty?
He was fucking sandbagging, so I don't believe that.
One donkey?
Just one?
Yeah, you got to say a few.
You went to that barn.
Yeah, got to say a few.
What is the term?
You got to say a few dragons to get to the princess?
Got to kiss a few frogs to get your prince.
Just so people know.
I was actually talking to a literal donkey.
Yeah, you got to have an animal donkey.
That was an animal donkey in order to get to the.
All of a sudden Billy's like, that's not so bad.
Yeah, Billy fucks frogs.
Did you know that?
Oh, you're a frog fucker?
Yeah, for real.
Like, actually.
You fit right into the A. Can you fight?
No.
War mode.
War mode.
Well, you, oh, no, you fucking built.
I don't even know if we've talked since you beat up Jose.
Jose, Jose, Jose.
Knocked him out.
How did that all work out?
You end up making some pretty good coin on that.
We did, we did end up, we did talk.
After that, yeah, CT works.
What are we on to next?
All right, so Shane, Shane Nasty, that'll be sick.
The Sabres are the best team in the NHL right now.
We're only one week in.
That's not going to happen.
No, we didn't, we didn't expect that.
The whole team's on deals for 750K.
But I'll tell you what, an awesome fan base
that deserves something to cheer about.
But I think that they're going to end up
right at the bottom of the basement with the coyotes.
Yeah, they're going to trade Jack Eichel.
They're trying.
I don't know how many people who listen to your podcast
are kind of all up on the hockey drama.
Give it to us.
Tell us.
So he's, he's dealing with a herniated disc in his neck,
right?
And fusion surgery has been one that they've relied on
to fix what he's going through in the past.
Now, that fusion surgery, you don't always
know what you're going to get, where a lot of guys end up
having to keep, like, re-getting the surgery.
I want to say that Tiger Woods did it on his back,
and then time over time has continued
to have to get fusion surgery.
Because you want to be an ABCL, yeah.
Well, there's, there's a new surgery where I want to say
it's a four month recovery where they do like a disc
replacement.
And I know it's like.
It sounds terrible.
Yeah, all the, I guess the issue that the organization's
having with it is that it's never been done on a hockey
player, and, and, and so they have nothing to base it off
of where the, where the fusion surgery has.
So they want him to get that fusion surgery,
and they have final say because they're paying a salary
where you're allowed to get a second opinion in the NHL.
Oftentimes, there's not much bickering back and forth
because you're talking maybe about like a broken ankle
or something that's not as severe as like a herniated disc
in your neck.
And they're in a battle right now because he wants to get
this disc replacement surgery as opposed to the fusion.
I don't know if it's the organization being poopy
pants about the fact that he's been there.
I don't know exactly, but he's been there enough time
and done enough good things and played well enough
where he's probably like a, you guys aren't fixing
this problem anytime soon.
Our team is shit.
We're going to finish in the bottom five year after year
after year and I'm miserable.
I want to go play on a good team where things are a little
easier where I'm going to win.
And I don't know what would be a good example in the
football realm to compare it to, but they're at a standstill.
It seems like it's eking towards that they're going to end
up trading them, but other teams are now a little weary
of being like, okay, well, we want to be incentivized
where if he does end up getting surgery and he doesn't play
that many games and it's maybe a career ender
or he's just never the same.
However, well, if we gave you four unbelievable assets
for this guy that we thought, so there's risk involved now.
So it's just a, it's a very sticky situation and it sucks
because it's an Olympic year and this guy is a very special
player for the, for team USA.
And there's something about representing your country
in the Olympics that, that hockey player is like,
that's like a lot of what they care about.
And I think it's, it's eating them alive.
And I just hope the situation gets resolved and the longer
it gets backed up, it's probably not going to look like
he's going to play, play in the Olympics.
And I know I've been long winded about this, but it's,
it's a shitty, shitty, shitty situation.
What's the recovery time like on the fusion?
I think, I think that the fusion is surprisingly,
and don't quote me on this.
I think you can come back a little bit sooner,
but this is something that you're probably going to have
to keep getting when you're retired.
And that's what's not sitting well with me as just somebody
from the outside looking in where it's like, well,
if a fan wants to be frustrated because he's not taken
the team's advice, it's like, well, I get that they paid
them a big contract that's going to last for, you know,
eight years at 10 million a year.
But I also don't think this guy should be forced to making
a commitment that's going to last him to make a decision
for the rest of his life as far as his health.
It sounds like NBA players when they have the knee surgery
and it's like they could get the long, long surgery
or they get it cleaned up knowing that eventually,
like Dwayne Wade, his, his knees are like bone on bone
because he always went with the shorter version of the surgery
and like getting him back on the court as quickly as possible.
So I think, I think as an athlete, sometimes like, I, you know,
I played on a torn ACL, right?
And then I end up tearing my other one deal.
No, I'm tough.
Tommy tough guy over here.
Biz forgets to tell the part that he's too dumb
to realize he had a torn ACL.
Yeah, that's the, yeah.
But, but I always, I would imagine Dwayne Wade's all right.
And he's going to have enough people to give him proper therapy,
given what he made.
And he sucked it up and played through.
And I think that there's definitely a lot of respect
in that situation.
But who knows, maybe he would have regrets with it when he's 50
being like, Oh my goodness, I didn't know that a decision I was making
then was going to cause me so much pain for the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Those are real, like those are real life implications.
Those are just the, that's the athlete side of it.
And some people would be like, well, you made fucking 250 million.
Who cares?
It's like, ah, well, okay.
Well, that's a very short-minded way of thinking about it.
It still tells you like, no matter how much money you make,
when you get out of bed in the morning and your knee sucks
and you can't bend it, like there's nothing they can do to fix that.
The money is not going to fix that.
Yeah.
No, I mean, there's a reason why people talk about health being like
number one over money over anything.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, being able to walk, being able to be mobile,
being able to have, you know, a life that you enjoy.
Yeah.
We went, we went really serious there, but we only got through the Sabres.
You want to talk about any of the good teams?
Well, let's talk about the Maple Leafs.
Well, Sabres are, they're good right now.
They're winning right now.
Let's talk about the Leafs though, because the Leafs, it was,
it was another year of the same old for the Leafs last year.
Big expectations.
And I mean, we pay real close attention to hockey in the off season.
So we know all the things that they've done to try to improve that team,
to try to turn things around.
Maybe our listeners, one or two of them might not know.
So maybe you could tell us, even though we already know, and our
listeners could also find out what have the Maple Leafs done differently
to change the trajectory of that franchise, excuse me, organization.
It's, it's hard because when they made that strong financial
commitment to those four players, John Tavares, I think William Nylander
is probably actually even better than what he's making.
Most important player?
Um, he signed a deal where I think he makes around seven, maybe just over seven,
which he's actually, in my opinion, based on last year's playoff
performance and what he's done, did last year and what he's going to do.
I think he's right at that fair number.
It's just hard, these young guys in the NHL, because the league is getting
so young when you're that special in your entry level contract.
They seem to at least have, in that case, the team by the balls.
So Marner Matthews ended up getting just over 11 million, close to 11 and a half.
What's the cap at right now?
And then with COVID in that situation, it stalled the cap.
So the cap said 82.5 million.
So they have, I think I want to say they have 40 to 45% of their money
invested into four players.
And in hockey, it's just hard.
If you're not snapping the money around, it's just hard to win
and rely on those types of players.
So you have to find cheap replacements in order to win, which I think
that they found a couple of good players in that bunting and then Richie,
who was actually in Boston, and they're getting tried out on the top lines there.
So if they can have those guys scoring 20, 25 goals at making what they make,
that's going to get them hopefully over the edge to where they at least make
a little run and get some experience.
They have a solid back end.
They have a decent tandem in net, but it's really going to rely on these
guys when they get the playoff without having shown that experience,
because every time they really seem to just not be able to do it.
And in this situation last year, they just flat out choked.
So and I think the pressure is mounting on the fact that they're making
so much money and you're more so, I believe Mitch Marner, but I'm confident
that they're going to be able to get over that edge this year.
And you didn't get circumcised, but this year you're going to cut off
your dick if they don't make the playoffs.
If they don't make the playoffs.
I've doubled down on my foreskin challenge where I'm going to double down.
You could chop my whole cock off and keep it.
If that fucking team can't make playoffs, who gets to keep it?
We should just put it in a jar on the shelf in here.
Done. Yep. Done.
Like one of the eight.
You see that over there?
That's a business.
Hey, we should start a tequila.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like the world at the bottom is the worm.
Yeah.
That's not a bad idea.
Calamari.
Calamari tequila.
Yeah.
Do you guys sell like pink Whitney?
I would pit pink nasty.
Yeah.
That's a great name for.
Just like a tiny bit of foreskin at the bottom of the bottle.
Yeah.
Blue ball tequila.
Yeah.
Pink Whitney's crushing it still.
Pink Whitney's doing well.
So I know we got we got on the Toronto talk.
There was another team that you mentioned in there.
It's mostly I'm curious to know like in the case of the Maple Leafs,
since they've choked so much in the playoffs, there are the what do you do?
If you've got like the same nucleus of players coming back and they've shown
that they're going to be chokers, what do you do?
You're a glue guy.
You probably had all the unorthodox ideas about like, let's let's go out and
get into a fight.
Let's do something a little bit different.
Make the blood start pumping a little heavier.
They're they're going through something similar to what Washington did where
they had those that that strong core early on, but they had to just figure
out and move some pieces.
Right.
They had Mike Green was their defenseman when you were probably started
cheering for them when you were wearing your Jankos.
That's not true.
I started cheering for him back when they had Chris Simon.
Well, yeah, Banzai when he was.
Yeah.
When he was slashing guys.
No, before he did that before.
I think he this is about him before he did that.
I just knew he was going to.
But no, like, yeah, Mike Green was a guy that he was great for the regular
season where he'd score a bunch of goals defensively.
And then the playoffs, it's like, you're going to need somebody that can
actually put the clamps on the other team's best score if he's going to
be your star defender here.
Here's how it summarizes.
You remember those years where Boston had one for so long and all of a
sudden they were down to 3 0 to the Yankees and they ended up coming back in
that series and that's what propelled them to eventually and winning that title.
And now they've, you know, they got over the hump.
So now they're good as of late.
Um, Toronto needs that moment.
They're going to have to seize that moment whenever it comes.
I thought it was going to be them getting over Montreal with the fact
that it even went to seven.
But, you know, here we are.
And, you know, I hope that they can because there's so much fucking pressure
on those kids in that city.
Yeah, they deal.
That's, that's like, that's like being a Yankee and making all the money
and dealing with the constant earning your pinstripes.
Um, the league has caught up to the Maple Leafs at this point.
Yes, Aaron Boone's words.
Biz, you think Sydney Crosby is going to be traded to the Colorado Avalanche.
No, I don't actually.
The most Southern team in, uh, the NHL.
The Colorado Southern thing is still up for debate.
Sean, what was the point you made about?
We were talking before we started recording and he was like, it's more
Southern than Tennessee.
And I'm like, no, no, it's not.
It's also, again, it's Mountain West.
Like that's how you would describe it.
Fair, fair.
It's either North or South.
I'm willing to see, but I don't think it's the stupidest thing ever said
on this podcast.
No, you've said, but it was, well, I've been getting meme to death over it.
This, yeah, Mehmed.
I've been getting Mehmed.
Mehmed would say, but cross me to the, to the, so to the South.
I, you know, they, they, I thought that maybe like the, the fact that like
the penguins were maybe tailing off a little bit, they'd consider it.
I don't think that they would ever do it because Mario has came out and
said that they'll probably never move them.
And usually when he says that, that that's probably going to be the case.
I was just getting more and fantasy lad.
The fact that it would have been cool if him and Nate McKinnon would have
collabed and got together and play in the same team.
What's up with the avalanche?
Because that was another team last year.
It felt like they were going to roll through the playoffs and then they
hit one bump in the road and it was just over like that.
That just shows the parody in the NHL and how you got to be clicking at
the right time when playoffs times come around.
And yeah, they ran into the, to the Vegas Golden Knights who, you know,
they, they shut down that top line.
I thought that their defense led them down a little bit and maybe
Grubauer wasn't the guy in that.
So Grubauer wanted a big contract this off season.
They moved on.
They actually ended up picking up Darcy Kemper from the Arizona Coyotes,
who I believe is a, he's going to probably be an Olympian this year.
And he's one of the best boys in the league.
So like I said, like I said, with Toronto, they, they moved a few pieces to
see, Hey, is this the way that the puzzle is going to fit now?
Got it.
Uh, what about Seattle?
The Kraken?
Oh, yeah, I like the jerseys are sick.
You know what I really liked about the Kraken is night one.
They came out there, they scrapped.
It's like, yeah, we're going to fight.
We're going to establish ourselves as being like, there's some Kraken pride.
Also, I know that you have.
Oh, are you talking about the fan?
Would you see the fan fight?
That was in Nashville.
So that was a couple of games in the season.
Okay.
How could you be fighting over a team that you've been rooting for for one
month?
That's what I love about it.
It's like, they, they know that the weight of the future, their franchise on them and
they have to set a tone right off the bat.
They're establishing a culture.
Also, I don't want to tell, I don't, I know you work for the NHL, so I'm not trying
to bash the NHL in any way, but it was a very MLB type move in the worst sense to
have opening night, the Kraken, not at home.
I tuned in and I was like, can't wait to see Seattle.
Oh, the Kraken are in Las Vegas.
Oh, I think either way, it doesn't matter.
I mean, that was, how about the show that Vegas puts on?
It would have been nice to be kind of, it's like a second pop though.
There you go for opening night.
Thank you, Hank.
A week.
When is their opening night?
The brains behind the podcast.
All right.
All right.
So now this was, I literally tuned in.
This is what this is what opening day of baseball is.
Fucking 20 milligrams, Seattle's.
And then day two is like, yeah, can't get it.
So you think we're going to get 20 milligrams, Seattle's, when we open up the
Kraken's new place, 100% crack head, tilts in the crowd.
I bet you know, I bet you know, way fans even consider going there now
because they're coming and swinging.
Hostile territory.
Well, we know that in Seattle, it's a mutual combat state.
Yeah.
You can elect to fight somebody.
And as long as they agree to fist fight you, no weapons involved.
It's not illegal.
Yeah, they have an octagon on the concourse that you can just sign up for.
And that's, you know, you go to the bar, you read the bull.
That's how they do it with the Kraken.
Are they actually going to be good though?
I think they're going to be competitive.
They got a bunch of like crafty hockey players.
So they, they, because of the rules that they set up in place.
And I was talking to someone recently about this when, when Atlanta ended up
getting a team, well, they just, they didn't really set them up for success.
They were, people were probably like, okay, well, they're losing off the hop.
And they're really never able to get there.
What about Danny Heatley?
Yeah.
They, they, they were able to get a few of those like generational type players.
They ended up getting coval chuck.
I believe Marianne Hoso was there for a little bit, but they, they weren't
able to assemble a good team with the way that they've structured it.
And you saw with the Golden Knights, they were competitive in that first year.
That, that teams have to give up that, you know, really solid third line player
and guys who maybe never got the opportunity on these good teams because
their top six were so good, where maybe if they were given a little bit more
time and a little bit more power play time, they would be able to, to contribute
and put up points very similar to what other teams on and the top six can do.
And, and I think that they, they did this, they got hit by the COVID bug early on.
So I personally don't think that they're going to make playoffs, even though
they're in the weakest division in the NHL.
I think that they're, they're going to be a cusp team, but then they're going
to be able to ditch some assets at the deadline in order to acquire more.
And I think that they're going to be a very good team with a very,
very solid foundation as far as the fan base.
They did a really good job with the jerseys in the color scheme.
I love it. I think it's awesome.
And I can't wait to watch all the social every Saturday night against Vancouver.
There we go.
And there's a border battle up there, which border battle, border battle.
Um, a weird thing that I didn't even realize until yesterday,
and I'd love for you to tell, explain to me what's going on with the Islanders.
They are starting the season with 18 road games, 18.
Can you look that up?
Marty Mosh told me 18. So maybe it's not right. Eight.
I just want to, I want to clarification 13.
I want to keep this guy.
You probably are right. You prop 13.
Sorry, 13 road games.
Marty Mosh, thank you. You fucking loser. He said 18, 13 road games.
That's crazy though. That is, that's, that's insane.
Yeah. A lot of rubbers on the road.
What you got to pack a lot of rubbers for the road. Yeah, that's true.
That's one of your carry-ons.
Yeah. Is that just like a communal? You have a fishbowl. Yeah.
That's yeah.
It's like the Olympics where they kind of just put them in the village
and they're gone after two days.
What, what was the, what, what point though is the road trip?
Like that's got to wear on them by game seven.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cause you're basically on the road for, for a solid, I would say month,
but much rather started out on the road knowing that you have all those
back and home games, then, then do it all.
But yeah, I'd imagine the boys are a little rattled by that,
but they get to come back and play in their new building, which looks awesome.
And they're going to have a brand new set up.
And I'm sure they're going to be thrilled about that.
And I'll tell you what, they have not had a good start to the season,
but this is a very, very good team.
So maybe, maybe buy them at when,
maybe if they lose a little bit more at the start of the season, hammer them
by the stock, then they had all, I think they were 17 to one to start the year.
And I mean, you might have got them at like 18 or 19 to one now.
Yeah. Cause they lost the two first games.
Maybe I don't know, does it change that quickly?
They don't play at home until November 20th.
Yeah. So it's over on the road, finishing the construction on their new barn,
a lot of rubbers, new barn.
What about the, what about the Rangers?
Did they, did they actually fix the problems that they had?
Because I saw they had what we were playing a little bit of tummy sticks there
in the first game, I thought Rivo was going to come out and then they had them.
They had Ovi mic'd up and they're like, yeah, it's your summer going, pal.
Ha, ha. Yeah. By the way, how about that first game by Ovi?
Pretty good.
Rumors of his demise were inaccurately reported.
Those were premature.
Ovi's back because he can, he can stay in his office
and score goals for the next five years.
I think he's going to pass Wayne Gretzky.
I do. Because if the league hasn't figured out how to stop that shot
after how many years he's been in there, what, 17 years, 16 years,
he can continue to do that for five years, right?
What you make of is a mass mutual commercial.
I haven't seen that one yet.
You haven't seen it?
I haven't. Oh, is that that's the one that's the one where he's like in his house
or whatever. Yeah, with his wife and in back room.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Ovi can sell me anything.
I'll buy it from him.
But yeah, that first that first game against the Rangers,
I thought that the Rangers are trying to like remake their image a little bit
after Tom Wilson essentially destroyed the franchise last year.
He flexed on him singlehandedly made everybody quit.
They had to issue another one of those apology statements
that the Rangers have gotten so good at.
But then they fired popcorn vendors over it.
Yeah, exactly.
They fired basically the entire front office kind of cleaned house a little bit.
Now they've got they brought in Reeves to try to be like,
hey, we're not we're not going to get pushed around anymore.
But I felt like opening night was the that was the time to come out
and send a message like, hey, this is a different Rangers team
than the one that you saw last year.
And they didn't do it at all.
Oh, Tommy Sticks is flat.
Tommy Sticks. Exactly.
Yeah, I thought they played solid in that first period,
but just far too many mistakes.
So the knock on the Rangers is there.
They they're like riverboat gamblers.
They tend to like open up the Middle East too much in order to try to create
offense. I like that. You'll see.
Yeah, no, it's you're going to have you're going to see six, five games,
five, four games, and it's entertaining.
But it's a little bit difficult to win.
And that's why you saw trots and the success you brought Washington
when he said, guys, you can play like this and you could put up these crazy
numbers till the end of time.
But I don't know if you're going to bring home any hardware.
And then he had them buy into that presence cup.
Yeah, where it's like several of those.
I want to take that risk offensively,
but it's probably not the right time right now.
And and I think that Gerard Galant will help them out eventually
and they'll figure out the way they still got a lot of young guys in that line up
too. So if they can start figuring out and make contributions,
I've been bullish on the Rangers.
I said that they're going to make playoffs.
I said that Washington's not.
I'm looking like a fucking idiot right now because Washington looked really
good in that first game.
But I'm still confident in this Ranger squad.
What about the lightning?
Who are how are the lightning cheating this year?
They're not.
They just they had to replenish that bottom six.
Yeah, they're not.
Everybody was all poopy pants about the the long term IR situation.
Yeah, I was poopy pants.
It's I guess it's a way around it just like it is the state.
I consider the state tax thing a way to get around signing guys cheaper.
Yeah.
So they kind of had the best of both worlds.
But hey, if you can manipulate the rules, man, I mean, that's how
that's how the Patriots won seven titles or do they win six?
It helps when you six.
It helps when your quarterback is married to like a billionaire, essentially.
So that way your income check doesn't really make that much of a difference.
So you can keep restructuring it.
Do the lightning have anybody that's married to like a supermodel?
Is is Gisele a billionaire?
Yeah, she makes way more than he does.
Still, uh, how she's international.
Yeah, she's number one football, just an American sport.
If you're beautiful enough, people just pay you.
Yeah, it's like, thank you for everything.
Thank you for being here.
Yeah, you're pleasant to look at.
How much do you make from that?
Oh, that's most of my paycheck from the knees down.
Did you you work out with Gretzky now?
So we do.
Yeah, we say at the I don't want to stay at the hotel.
Actually, sorry, I don't want to fucking actually that's one story.
We so we finished our first time at at TNC last week.
And Charles recommended we go to this pub
afterward because you can't go to sleep after that.
We you're all wound up for six hours doing live TV.
And we leave at like around three ten after it closed.
And there was four seekers there waiting to get Wayne autographs.
Really? It never fucking ends, man.
This guy can't get away from anything.
So like there's seekers outside the hotel and I feel bad for the guy.
He can't go anywhere and just like not have to worry about people being around
asking for shit. You got to be his muscle.
You got to be like the Charles Oakley to Michael Jordan.
You got to start cracking a few.
So I would always sign everything for anybody who asks
because I always knew there would be a day where nobody was asking for it.
And I just didn't have that many people asking.
Right. So in a circumstance like that, I'm sure some people are like,
oh, I didn't sign for me.
But it's like, fuck, man, imagine going everywhere and always having shit.
Do this, do that.
Did he sign?
He he he's he always you could tell he gets like he's OK.
And he does it. He does it.
And although they're putting him in an unfair situation,
because like most of them are just selling it to make money.
Yeah, right. It's not if they're like 50 year old dudes.
And they're like, hey, sign six of these numbers.
Right. Put on a fake jersey and sell for Dave gets that now.
Oh, does it come out of a hotel and they'll have
like a Michigan mini helmets and Patriot mini helmets.
And they'll be like, hey, Dave, can you sign this?
Like big fan, he's like, you're clearly just going to sell us.
And he still does it.
I think he's made a rule that if he if he can tell that you're not
actually a fan, he won't sign it, which I think is fair.
Yeah, because you're just doing it.
You got six of those ice cream helmets that you sign.
And you keep his antiques.
But I'm saying like if once or twice you step in between one of these guys
and Wayne and be like, hey, buddy, not today.
And maybe, you know, crack one of them in the nose, send a message.
I think at that point, Gretzky is like,
business, he's my guy, the whole chemistry.
Yeah, job for life, job for life.
So basically do what I did playing hockey.
Right. Yes, you're the enforcer off.
Yes, you're they brought you in to protect Wayne Gretzky.
Correct. What if I get fired for assaulting someone?
I don't think that that doesn't happen.
It's hockey. Yeah.
If I do, can I come back and be?
No, Gretzky will bail you out.
That's probably hockey. Yeah, Billy, Billy football.
Paulie hockey. Yeah, Paulie hockey.
I like that. Yeah.
So how are you managing like all the new workloads?
So you're doing like six hours of TV and still two podcasts a week.
They actually got me a green velvet coach.
OK. In their office.
So I just kind of take dirt naps in between periods.
You must be absolutely exhausted.
That's why if I don't know what I'm saying, when the when the cameras roll,
it's because I was taking a little nap while the play was going on.
Do you know about the parallax effect? No, we saw that in the Islanders game.
There was a goal where the puck crossed the line from the certain angle.
And you could see. Oh, yeah.
But you know about the parallax effect
where if the camera goes over top of it, it's not actually the number one most
noted effect on the picture of it, though, that you get the conspiracy theories
and it creates engagement. Yeah, no, yeah.
But you got to be the parallax explainer.
So there I would say that would be great to I don't think I don't even I didn't
even know what the word meant.
Yeah, maybe they could find somebody else is nasty science corner.
So I don't know how many.
Well, I guess the lightning were affected by this in a good way.
But the Calgary Flames fans listening,
though, probably the worst one ever was when they should have won it at home.
I think it might have been Martin Gillena.
Yes, and it hit the point where the goalies pad is it indents by the toe.
And people were confused by that.
And they're still convinced to this day that they scored
and won that Stanley Cup in Game Six. They did.
That was a goal.
You think that one was. I think it was.
I kind of think so, too.
But I don't want to be the conspiracy theory guys.
So I was just going to put again,
coin toss to whoever's listening.
But they had Martin St. Louis ended up scoring later,
a little later in that overtime, and then they went off and won it in Game Seven.
So the Calgary Flames were fucked by the Paraplex.
Yeah, Paraplex, parallax, parallax, parallax angles,
essentially says, like, if if there's space
that's over top of the line, that's where you see the white ice
come through on the other end.
But if you were looking directly down above it, you could see it's on the line
still. Yeah, Calgary has the shiny ice.
Same with Edmonton. Why is their eyes so shiny?
Because Edmonton has the light brightest ice of all time.
I think it's because of the TV lights that they have in the building.
Got it. Every time I watch a game in Edmonton, I'm like, damn, that's.
Yeah, it's very shiny ass.
It's very shiny ass.
Also really sad to see Duncan Keith is on the Edmonton Oilers now.
He got smoked the other night.
I saw that that's a way that's when it like registered to me.
Oh, yeah, he's not on the Hawks anymore when he got smoked.
And I was like, damn, he got fucked up.
Hawks are another team that have had not looked so good out of nowhere.
Going kind of, you know, pump it, revitalizing everything with Seth Jones
and trying to. I thought they were the most improved team over the off season
with the acquisitions. Tyler Jones is Stanley Cup champion.
Kirby Dock spent most of the team injured.
So it's basically like getting a new guy in the lineup back for the full season.
They said that Kane was was a little bit banged up all last year.
And then they obviously obvious ones.
Taves took the whole year off. He's back.
You got Seth Jones and then Flurry.
So I you got to think that they're going to figure it out at some point
and take a crack at playoff. I hope they get back.
I think five teams from that central division, given the strength of it,
get in. And I think the Hawks are back in the playoff picture.
And if they're not, I guess off with Stan Bowman's head, is that kind of?
Yeah, I take all my I take all my Hawks direction from Chief,
who is in my estimation, the best Hawks like writer, podcaster in Chicago.
So I he tells me and it's it's off with Stan's head.
If they don't make the playoffs again this year.
Yeah, it's a very weird spot, though, because the Black Hawks like you
you feel like you're wasting Kane and Taze, but you also won three cups with them.
So it's like what?
Well, it goes back to a while.
Like it's like if your time's over, now is the time to if you can.
I'm not sure if they have no move clause. I'm sure they do.
But like, like, hey, do you want to go to a winning team?
Make a little bit easier towards the end.
But the problem that they're having is they each make 10 million.
Yeah, their salary cap hit is and there's been a strong debate
because actually the never goes up the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The Toronto Maple Leafs had to play with another goalie that was just
like a beer league type goalie the other day, because they're in some cap trouble.
So people are now saying, should there be a soft cap in the National Occupy?
Yeah, I don't know why the cap never goes up.
I feel like it's been stuck in that like 75 to like 85 range for 10 years.
It's crawling up. It's crawling.
And I remember when they installed it, when they signed those deals
and then the captain go up, it was like, oh, oh, like, what are they going to do now?
There's fucking the loon, the loony, the loony didn't go up.
They're fucked just like the Leafs. Is that what it is?
The loony, the loony affects the HHR.
Fuck, here we go. Oh, yeah.
Hockey related revenue. How about that one?
OK, I like it. I like it.
So that all factors into what the players end up paying an escrow
and eventually what the salary cap goes up to.
So I remember when I was playing this, I think one year escrow,
we ended up paying 18 percent because the loony got crushed.
And a lot of what they anticipated was revenue coming in through these Canadian teams.
And like a lot of them weren't competitive and not making playoffs.
So ultimately, you know, you see 40, 40 percent tax,
tack on another 18 percent escrow and then 3 percent to your agent.
You're not even you're seeing like, you know, 35 percent of your money.
That's all said and done.
So what is the soft cap?
Soft cap would basically I think the baseball has a soft cap, right?
Where if you go over a certain amount, you have to pay a luxury tax, pay a luxury tax.
But but it makes it so that teams can potentially spend more.
Yeah. If you have a rich owner that doesn't mind spending.
This is like his passion.
I think I think it's ridiculous.
The fact that because of all that stuff that some teams got jammed up
where they can't even keep the players that they drafted right and developed.
Yeah, where yeah, I get going to buy all these free agents from other places
like the Yankees normally do. That seems to be a Yankee trait.
I don't know who else in baseball follows that.
But I think that in that case, maybe they can like eliminate that or penalize that more.
I just feel that if you're drafting and developing players
and then you're being punished for it because you were bad for so long
and now you got the guys and it's like, oh, fuck, I can't even keep them all
to keep a good team for at least a couple of years because I can't afford them
because the league's cap isn't going up.
Yeah, seems like seems a little bit contrary.
Contradictory, I agree.
I agree because then maybe when those small markets, when the time did come around,
they could say, fuck, fine, yeah, we are going to pay those guys
and we can't establish ourselves as a hockey city.
Yeah. No, I agree.
The cap, it does feel like it's been stuck for a very long time.
And it's you're right.
It's crawling up.
The Maple Leafs in the Blackhawks are very similar, where you have two,
three, four guys that are half of your cap.
It's pretty tough to have like line depth.
And it's pretty tough to put together a team.
And if you get stuck with a long contract that you signed where someone's making
seven million, he doesn't he's not good anymore.
Yeah, it's tough.
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Biz, was Whitney kind of jealous that you got the TNT job and he didn't?
No, no, he doesn't give a shit.
I don't think he gives a shit.
He told me he's been supportive.
He told me he just wanted to get better at golf.
Yeah, he told me he told me he was kind of mad about it.
I was surprised that he didn't get the call to do it.
I think that he's the more entertaining one of the podcast.
I think that was really nice to do.
What about R-A? Oh, wow.
Well, I just I think is R-A jealous that you got in.
He didn't.
Well, going back to what I just said,
I just think it's tough because like Witt's got a lot of credibility
because he played in the NHL for as long as he did.
So yeah, yeah, like, yeah, put R-A on there.
Fucking he cannot.
We should rotate.
We should rotate that seat with a spit and chiclet.
I'll be honest.
I would tune in for every R-A night.
He already came over to my desk today
and we were chatting up and catching up and he was sweating so much.
And I don't know why. He's a sweater.
Yeah, but he was like, it's like 50 degrees outside.
He's a mover and he was just like, yeah, he came over.
It was actually a very funny scene because I was sitting
and I paper towels like in the corner of my day.
He came over and just reached grab the paper towels
just started mopping himself down.
I was like, what's up, R-A?
Yeah, you think is core temperature
with the fact that it's so cold out and he's got a shaved head
that he would be OK. Right. Right.
No, he was sweat.
I think he would sweat through a blizzard.
It seems like it's how much he sweats.
If he I think if he touches anything remotely hot or spicy,
it goes to to a different level.
Yes, where he might drown himself.
It does seem though that the podcast is like never been better.
We're having a good time.
We ended up. Oh, yeah. Sorry.
I was talking about ours. Oh, oh, OK.
Well, do you want to talk about ours?
No, no, no. Yeah.
Do you have any questions for us?
Well, seriously, we wanted to we started doing two episodes a week.
And we just found that we were just better at one
and we like to circle back once a week.
That's nice.
Now, you guys are crushing it.
You guys also cover every sport.
Yeah. And we did.
So there's no off.
You guys are workhorses.
You don't get tired after doing one interview or a live stream
and need to take dirt now.
Our trick is whenever we need to talk about a sport
that we don't understand,
we just have somebody else come on to our show and talk to us about it.
You and we just steal your ratings for one day.
Yes.
But no, you guys are crushing it.
I feel like spin chicklets is one of those things at Barstow now
that it's just so consistently great.
And like people always when I see people on the street,
when I talk to people, they all love you.
We yeah, we care about our product.
We want to get great interviews and we come by once a week
and we give our thoughts on what's happened around the league.
We try to keep it, you know, light as possible.
So yeah, it's been going good, buddy.
Sports are supposed to be fun.
Why did you buddy me there?
I don't know.
Yeah, you didn't realize that.
Yeah, that was.
Is that is that is that a disc?
No, it's not like it.
If you ask Whitney, it's a disc.
Yeah, when he took.
Except you know, what is the only football thing of the buddy?
I think buddying is fine.
No, that's right, because you buddy went and then he fucking lost.
Yeah, buddy me.
It was actually after he broed him.
Yeah, he followed up the bro with a buddy.
And at that point, it was like, enough's enough.
What are we doing here, bro?
He's like, you can buddy me any time.
But it's.
No, that's it.
That's like a tap in someone on the head.
You know what I think about?
Maybe I would say once every two weeks that that cow that you you
want, because I remember when I when I looked it up, I'm like,
that's the most beautiful cow I've ever seen.
Highland cattle.
A Highland cattle.
I think I'm going to get a I'm going to buy a ranch in Wyoming.
With that money.
I would be a ranch hand.
What what is TNT paying you?
Pretax.
Oh, we're not going through that.
I don't want to be not as much as Wayne.
That's for sure.
I think Wayne's Wayne's making like what three, four.
They said it publicly.
Have you done the joke yet where you're like two of us?
We had, you know, 5,000 points in the league.
No, I avoided that one.
Do that.
Everybody said it.
No, do it.
No, do it.
How many points?
OK, I'll do it.
Well, how many points did you?
I had 21 points.
That's not that's not nothing.
And also he could go the other way around and be like, well,
between me and BizNasty, we've gotten our asses kicked
with combined two ACLs.
Yeah.
We could we should do the donkey comparison for how many
we have collectively compared to how many goals.
Is there going to be any hoop talk on the show?
There already was the cornhole cam with Charles Barkley
and that.
That was pretty nice, wasn't it?
Like it was just a shot of Charles Barkley's ass.
Yeah.
You would look at that like fellas.
The cornhole or the hoop cam.
They're calling him Wayne Nasty.
No, Wayne.
I like calling him Wayne.
I do like the idea for the pink Nasty drink.
Oh, shit.
We got off the workout topic.
But yeah, we do crush weights together.
Oh, yeah, yeah, finish with that.
We're workout bros.
Yeah, so you go in the gym.
Does he text you saying, hey, let's hit the gym?
Yeah, we got a group text going.
OK, how many guys?
Well, so Anson Carter actually lives in Atlanta.
And then Liam McHugh was actually in the gym
when we got there.
But it was me, Tauket, and Gretzky.
And then Liam McHugh is going to probably start joining us,
I would imagine.
And what do you guys do?
I do.
I just do like a lot of body weight stuff and then
like light upper body.
Wayne's more just a walker.
Yeah, I love that.
He wears like the garbage bag type shirt
where you just sweat your balls off.
I love it.
Wait, so why do you?
Tauket does the Tyrell Owens with the incline,
where he walks on the treadmill with the incline
with the dumbbells.
So why do you guys have to go together?
We just felt it keeps us honest.
We're a team.
It's got it.
It's got it.
That team camaraderie.
You hit the locker room together afterwards?
Oh, it's just a hotel gym, right?
Yeah, we go back to our rooms to shower,
if that's what you're asking me.
No, I haven't seen Wayno's hammer.
OK, that was going to be my next question.
I've seen yours.
I'm sure half the league has seen probably, right?
What do you mean?
Well, did you have a lot of text threads
going on at the time when you were?
No.
You probably did.
You strike me as a guy that would send a picture of his shit
if he had a really nasty one.
He'd be like, check this out.
You've never sent a picture of a massive dumbbell?
No, I have.
I'm saying it's a compliment.
It's guy stuff.
Yeah, guy stuff is sending a massive dumbbell.
Like, yeah.
Check out this.
Yeah, look at this one.
Would you like to publicly comment on your haircut?
Yes, as we went with this.
It's still not that great.
You look like, oh, man.
Oh, yeah, that's bad.
That's like almost Jackson Mahomes-like.
Yeah, you're like Kramer.
Kramer meets Jackson Mahomes.
You're late 60s Bob Dylan.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm kind of like a turkey.
From home alone.
Actually, it's good on me a little bit now.
Is it funny when the hair moves like this?
Oh!
Oh!
Careful now.
Billy's going to fuck you.
Oh, he likes to fuck the farm animals?
Yeah, he likes cocking.
He loves putting his cock in our farm animals.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That was an insult when I was living in Wales
that all the English people would call the welch,
the sheep fuckers.
Yeah.
No, Billy doesn't take that as an insult.
It's just a statement of fact.
He's like, she wasn't bad.
Is there an app for that now to meet farm animals?
The Highland cattle?
Absolutely.
Is there a female version of a Highland cattle?
Or is that like a, is that the some?
Some of them are female.
Some of them are male.
They make both now.
Wow, cow is a female and a bull is the male.
I just didn't know about that kind.
You really know a lot about it.
That's a unisex?
How did you get in the end of barn animal jokes?
What do you mean?
Well, that's how we got the name Nasty.
Like, yeah, actually.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, same.
Shut the fuck up, Billy.
I'm not admitting to fucking a farm animal.
I've never been that desperate.
I'm sorry to insult you, but I've never been that desperate.
Bizz, it's not a matter of desperation sometimes.
If it's a good looking.
Oh, I thought we were going to go through every single hockey team.
Oh, you got any others?
Stanley Cup final, go.
Oh, OK, OK.
Slow down.
Every time I go on a different show,
I predict two different teams.
Smart, that's really smart.
Yeah, veteran.
Let's go with Florida.
OK.
Whoa.
Throwing rats on the ice.
In Colorado.
Colorado with Crosby or without?
I think if they pick up Crosby at the deadline for, yeah,
I don't know what they're going to have to trade to get Crosby.
McKinnon.
Oh, McKinnon.
Yeah, they just do a wife swap.
I mean, do you think Crosby could even,
like he's got to have a no trade clause, right?
Yeah, yeah, he's not going anywhere.
One thing, so Darren Drager, who's
a well-respected media personality in Canada,
who falls hockey, he mentioned the possibility of it.
And I kind of jumped on it where I'm like, yeah,
I could see that there were, like McKinnon and Sid
work out every summer together.
They're like best friends or attached at the hip.
Pittsburgh's maybe treading in the other way,
although they did win the division last year, I believe,
and they've got off to a good start without Malcon
and Crosby in the lineup.
So who knows?
Who knows?
When you have those two guys, they
could end up turning around and winning it.
Because when they won their second cup together,
Latang was injured.
Matt Murray played out of his mind.
And yeah, they had some great other pieces,
but nothing that Phil Kessel stepped up and contributed.
But it was like Sid and Gina were just
a ride in this wave where they were just
unstoppable, controlling the middle of the ice.
Everything that they were shooting and passing,
it was going in the net.
And when you have those two guys, you always have a chance.
So I don't think he's going to get dealt.
It was a rumor that I hopped on.
And I'd still like to see it because it would create
a lot of waves and drama.
But I would not bet anything on it.
I would put as much money as Galant saying,
I would bet that we have a captain by the end of the week.
And then they never ended up picking a captain
to give everyone assistant captains in New York.
Yeah, I love that.
The head coach goes, I would put money on it.
And then it didn't happen.
And he's the one who gets to decide it.
So he probably got crazy odds and got through the Barstool
Sportsbook app and wanted to show a ton of money.
A little plug for you, Dave.
There you go.
All right, Bizz, thank you.
Everyone watch Bizz on TNT tonight because this episode
will be out on Wednesday.
Bill, you have one last thing and then we're going to go.
Did you ever play against the Danbury Trashers?
I never played against them.
No, no, I was still playing my last year,
junior of the year that came out.
All right, so pretend you did.
Follow up.
Yes, I did play for the Danbury Trashers.
No, I'm just wondering.
No, but he said to come at me from the other angle.
He played against them.
What was it like?
They put a dead fish in our locker room
and cranked up the heat on us.
And then they kidnapped my parents before.
That's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy.
There you go.
Yeah, that's what it's like playing against those guys.
Good question, Bill.
We never would have known that if Billy had an ass.
Billy, had a knuckles.
All right, love it, Bill.
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Okay, let's wrap up with some quick couple guys on chicks.
Hello large feline, Mr. Cometer, Shank,
Jacob and Sir William Pigskin.
This question is for Sir Pigskin.
What are your thoughts on chicks who lift?
Do you prefer chicks who are ripped or chicks who are thick?
What?
That's not really a guy.
Oh, I guess it is.
Yeah, that's a guy question.
I just care about their max numbers.
So should everyone.
So it doesn't matter body type, whatever.
You care about the results.
Your results guy, got it.
I'm a GPA guy.
I think all women's bodies are beautiful.
No, I don't, I mean, who's ever been like,
oh man, she's in two in shape?
I mean, I can't really,
I'm not one who has the ability to complain about that.
Correct.
I've seen myself shirtless.
Right.
I do think though, there is a,
there's a point of no return where a woman gets so jacked
that she has no choice but to do a really cringy
fitness TikToks with her boyfriend.
That kind of sucks.
You see, you know those that like whole community.
That's a weird community where they're like meal prepping
together and doing handstands.
They're fitness couples.
Yeah.
Fitness couples are.
Very strange.
Freakazoids.
Although I will say like, I don't want,
I wouldn't want a girl who was like super, super, super,
super, more in shape than me.
Oh, I'd be fine.
Because then I'd just, then I'd just be like,
well, this isn't going to last very long.
We should hank your trainer.
Yeah. How's she?
Is she thick or what are her numbers like?
My long distance boyfriend came into town last weekend
and we went to his favorite place, Times Square.
He likes Eminem store because they have those giant funnels.
Anyway, we ran into those guys that hand out CDs
and then they asked you to give them money.
Being from New York, I know to ignore and keep walking.
My boyfriend being from Ohio literally stopped
and got handed like three to four CDs.
He got intimidated because they kind of surrounded him
and ended up giving them a total of at least $60.
We went to lunch a little later
and I could tell he was embarrassed.
Fast forward to the next day
and he wants to go to Times Square again.
We have plans with my parents for brunch
so there's no way we can go.
I tell him this, but he's adamant about going back
and returning the CDs.
I explained that's not how it works.
He says, just go without me and I just let him go
and told him to come back quickly.
Well, apparently it went bad again
because he said that he was pressured
in spending $40 more on CDs.
He can't keep going on like this.
How do I convince him to take his loss?
It sounds like the origin story
for a very specific type of superhero.
Yeah.
I got wronged in Times Square
and I'll never let it happen to anybody before.
Why do they still have CDs?
Napster.
Yeah, exactly.
That's how Napster was formed, good point.
I mean, New York, if you've been here long enough,
you just basically learn that you don't even have to
give a nice no thanks.
You just don't even have to do anything
because no one does that back, you know what I mean?
Like if people, there's some people down the street
that I feel like are always asking for shit
and you don't even have to say, no, I'm good.
You just keep walking.
The nice part about New York is
you don't have to even look at anybody.
Yeah, you just keep walking and you don't have to worry.
You're actually kind of a psycho
if you make eye contact with a stranger on the street.
I remember when we first moved here,
I gave up my seat on the subway
and people looked at me like I was
the craziest person in the world.
Why would you do that?
Oh, I do that for a troop.
Yeah, well, I do that.
And for Billy?
Yeah, Billy, Billy Troops.
You don't want to be Billy football anymore.
Our good friend, Tom Fresneli, said maybe it's Billy Troops.
Or yes, Sergeant Bill.
Sergeant Bill.
That's good, salute.
Private Bill, make you earn it.
Liking Times Square is a red flag in itself.
Yeah, but I guess if you've never been in New York,
you'd think maybe this is cool once.
Billy, do you know what the military chain of command is?
Private is very low.
Well, how low?
Because they're still in the army.
It sounds like you're disparaging all the private.
They're above us.
It's a lower rank.
Above us, yeah, but.
You said very low.
Everything is perspective.
What's in the middle?
Some people think Colorado is in the south.
Yeah, what about Lieutenant?
The tenets higher than private.
What about Admiral?
About Sergeant.
Admiral's in the Navy only.
Rear Admiral.
It's in the rear.
Oh.
I think a point.
Pilot.
Not a rank.
Cop.
Not in the military.
President.
Technically, commander in chief.
Yup.
Chill out, so your hero is Joe Biden.
Yeah.
You have to do everything that he says.
Yeah, that's true.
Literally everything that he says.
You have a picture of him in your house, right?
Huge pick.
When he's younger.
Gosh.
Better looking.
Yeah.
Back when it was hot.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, last one.
PFT Hong, Billy Handball, Alpha Jake.
My boyfriend won't stop picking his nose
and flicking his boogers in the air
in an attempt to catch him in his mouth
like this breaks.
Oh, what?
Occasionally, he catches one
and then displays it to me and anyone else around him.
Thankfully, he only does this in private settings.
How do I get him to stop?
Also, big cat, where does Aaron Rodgers
put your water bowl in the mornings after walks?
Oh, that's nasty.
That was a mean thing to say.
I hope your boyfriend starts flicking him in your mouth.
That was very mean to say.
I would say that the trick to everything
is just withhold sex.
And any behavior that needs correcting,
just it's like that movie, Shy Rack,
just stop having sex.
And an e-caller.
Or shock him.
Yeah.
So fuck her.
Pain or sex.
Pain or sex.
Your life sucks.
Those are the two biggest drivers.
I hope you have boogers in every salad.
You booger salad.
It's like croutons.
I just, eating your boogers is...
Delicious?
Healthy.
I just wanted to throw that out there,
see where we'd go with it, Billy.
I heard it helps build your immune system.
I heard there was a high school in California
where people were eating their boogers
and it was a new diet that they found on TikTok.
That's not true.
Oh.
All right, number.
Love you guys.
Give me eight.
96.
Oh, six.
Bains.
69.
Bains.
18.
Bains.
Stop making fun of these people with a serious ailment.
Bains.
Bains.
46.
Ah.
Close to the go.
The neighbor.
I'm never fucking winning.
Love you guys.
Runnin' away, dee-dee-dee.
It's the livin' that's hot, hot.
Runnin' away, dee-dee-dee.
It's the livin' that's hot, hot.
We're talking away.
I don't know what I'm to say, I'm to say, didn't we?
Today's our last day.
Time.
Shine it away.
Time.
Oh, I'll be coming for your lover.
Time.
Shine it away.
Time.
Oh, I'll be coming for your lover.
Time.
Take on me.
It's the livin' that's hot.
Take me on.
It's the livin' that's hot.
I'll be coming for your lover.
It's the livin' that's hot.
We're talking away.
It's the livin' that's hot.
We're talking.
I'll tell you, but I'll be so a little way.
I'll tell you, but I'll be so a little way.
Say it out to me.
Time.
Oh, it's the better to be safe than sorry.
Shine it away.
Oh, I'll be coming for your lover.
Time.
Take on me.
It's the livin' that's hot.
Take me on.
It's the livin' that's hot.
I'll be gone.
It's the livin' that's hot.
Time.