Pardon My Take - Paul Rabil, Mr Portnoy + Steph Curry's Legacy Game
Episode Date: June 13, 2022Steph Curry's legacy game on Friday night. Big Cat was blacked out in California and took in game notes. Hank was at the game and we talk about upcoming Game 5 Monday. (00:02:32-00:21:48) LIV Golf and... the Lightning are back in the SCF. (00:21:52-00:33:46) Who's back of the week including College Baseball talk and Joe Maddon got fired with a mohawk. (00:34:55-00:45:07) Paul Rabil joins us in studio to catch up on the PLL season, how we fix the waterdogs and new rules for Lacrosse. (00:46:51-01:25:34) Our lawyer and good friend Mr Portnoy joins us to catch up with some complaints and a final chapter on the burnt mail saga. (01:27:36-01:57:42) We finish with Dell/Sonia Curry swapsies explained and a recap of the weekend. (01:59:01-02:07:03)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, a twofer for the people.
We've got Paul Rable in studio.
We almost, by the way, PFT, got old takes exposed
because we recorded this midweek last week
and we're like, oh, the water dogs are 0 and 2.
They went all the way to overtime, but yes, they are 0 and 2.
So we still look good in this interview.
And then we have our lawyer, Mr. Portnoy.
Had been a long, long time.
Great to catch up with him.
A lot of laughs, very, very funny moments.
We're going to talk game four in Boston on Friday night.
Get you ready for game five in Golden State on Monday.
Who's back of the week?
And also seems like we've got a curry love triangle
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Today is Monday, June 13th
and Steph Curry's legacy has entered the chat.
Let's go.
A legacy series, baby.
Legacy series.
Friday night, Steph Curry went into Boston
and dropped an all time, all time performance.
Hank, you want to just lead off?
With what?
How are you feeling?
Thoughts, just your thoughts.
How's your butthole doing?
Yeah, just your thoughts.
The butthole was clenched.
It was a very impressive performance from Steph Curry.
He did everything for them.
Clay Thompson, Draymond.
I mean, Clay played well.
Draymond's absolutely useless out there.
He almost had a single double.
Yeah, he had nine rebounds.
Nine rebounds and eight assists.
He has been Simmons.
It kind of felt like when Draymond after the first game
was like, oh, well, we won 40 of the minutes
and just, you know, fell apart.
That's how that game felt.
The Celtics felt like they were in control the whole time.
There was a few times where they had like a six, five point lead
if they had just, you know, had a couple stops
and a couple of good possessions, they would have pulled away
and Steph Curry just wouldn't let it happen.
It was tough.
He was he was taking the air out.
There was a lot of moments.
Big Cat loves where everyone's going crazy.
Then they hit a three and everyone just shuts up.
I mean, those are the greatest moments in sports.
And and Marcus like at the end of the game, the last four minutes
of the Celtics, they just they just fell apart.
They forgot how to play basketball.
Yeah, Mark, this happens at the end of a lot of games
where smart gets a lot of open looks.
And I guess just in a vacuum, they're good shots
because he's open.
Right.
But when it's Marcus Smart taking them at the end of games,
they're not necessarily.
Well, they're they're by design goal.
I mean, Golden State deserves a little credit.
Oh, for sure.
Like we're going to take away everyone, but Marcus Smart
and see if he can beat us.
I I also like that that game.
It did feel like we talked about it before game four that
like the Celtics are the better team.
And if they beat the only way they lose this is beating themselves.
It was Steph Curry beating them, but there was a lot of Celtics
beating themselves.
Yeah, the PFT sport is if they make it, yeah, they would have
they would have been back in the game, but I would rather live
and die with with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum.
Yeah.
Making or missing shots.
I don't even think they shot in the last four minutes,
maybe once.
Yeah, yeah, it was weird.
I Tatum had a lot of turnovers.
So I I was out in San Francisco and I was at a wedding.
I was at the rehearsal dinner on Friday night and I did the
thing where I hadn't seen my friends in a really long time.
So I got blackout drunk, way too drunk on Friday.
And then Saturday, like the wedding.
I was like, I'm just showing myself.
So I watched the entire game and I did not remember anything.
I was taking notes during.
So I'm going to read you just my notes real quick because I
remember I was watching the game, watched every single play.
And then one of my buddies who wasn't watching after was like,
like what happened?
I was like, Warriors one and Steph.
And that was like all I could tell him.
So my notes are these are notes.
I was taking during the games is like, dude, you're so drunk
that you're not going to be able to remember this.
Oh, let me find my notes.
Where the fuck did I put them?
Oh, here it is.
Okay.
First note is just Steph.
Second note is Stefan.
Stefan.
I wrote Steph.
So I guess I'm not as close to them.
Second note is just Dave's shirt is way too big.
He was wearing like it looked like a pajama shirt.
Triple XL.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Dave Portnoy was the one that
brought back like the big white T look so you could go into
like any gas station and get the like quadruple XL fresh
pressed white T he looked.
He looked like he was walking out like it like a college like
a dude's apartment and like the girlfriend walks out after
a long night being wearing like the guy, her boyfriend's
shirt or like what is going on right now dude like a middle
school girl waiting for her dad to pick her up at the pool.
Yeah, it was just I actually had a tweet where I was I didn't
have cell service points and I got one out that was just like
I can't get an I can't get any tweets out making fun of Dave
shirt. This is my personal hell and then my next one is
Draymond has been Simmons because he he now Steve Kerr
deserves all I watched the game back on Saturday after I was
sober Steve Kerr deserves a ton of credit to the people who
say Steve Kerr can't coach bad coach going offense defense
and also having the balls to pull Draymond out of the fourth
quarter and that offense defense actually work because
Draymond had a couple deflections there at the end and
he basically was like Draymond Green does not want to shoot
he is he has been Simmons at this point where it's like he
could have a completely open look going towards the basket
and he will pass it up every time which is smart. Yes, it's
smart for him at this point like because if he does force it
at the basket, he's going to do that thing where he like he
puts up a finger roll and it goes off the backboard right
doesn't hit the rim right. He's just breaking the backward
all the time. My next note was just Steph Woe and that must
have been just a big three hit that was probably that move
that he did because Steph does this when he's really feeling
it. He'll do the thing where he like he does a fake step
back to a three. They try to block it. He drives past them.
They catch up with him. He does like a full 360 pivot ends up
going towards the basket and just throws up a little tear
drop. Yeah, that doesn't even hit the net. It just goes
straight through. Yeah, those are he had everything going.
He had he had the ones where like he was getting he was
getting the ball forced out of his hand and then he'd run
the full like baseline and then show up in the corner and
hit one. I think this one was the one where he was looking
for a foul which wasn't there. He like fell down and that was
where it's like he's just going to hit every shot that he
takes and then Wiggins went to rebounding school. He just
felt like every time they needed to rebound he was there.
I don't know where he came from. Rebounding school. Yeah,
he went to rebounding school and then my last note is Steph.
Whoa, whoa. Okay, that's so I mean that's a pretty solid
recap of the game. Yeah, that's my drunk recap. That's really
how you could follow. I was I was watching the game in a bar
in Brooklyn that did not have a television which so I was
watching on my phone redundant and if yeah it is extremely
like I looked it up before I went there. I was like this
place is probably not going to have a TV and not only did
that place not have a TV none of the bars within like a two
block radius had a TV. So if you're watching if there's like
a big sports game on in a bar where they don't have a TV
and you are the person that has the ESPN app on their phone
pulled up you become a God. Yeah in that bar. Yeah, I had like
a little a little gathering around me of people that were
just treating it like it was the bar's television right and
you become like a superstar people like sending you free
drinks. Thanks for letting me watch your TV. Right. No
problem. So I was my phone. I had a lot of takes too that I
wish I could have tweeted out but I I can't be tweeting because
everybody is watching my phone. You should have what you
should have done is you should have pulled it down so it was
in the top right corner while you tweeted. Yeah, let me get
this. Sorry guys. You're gonna have to watch the corner of
my phone. Let me get let me get this tweet off. I've got a
burning addiction to being online. But yeah, it was stuff.
It was it was a stuff game. It was the stuff game and Hank
I'm I'm more curious about the atmosphere in Boston on a
scale of one to ten. How classy were you? I'm not gonna lie.
It was way more classy than I was expecting. Really? There
was like a couple fuck dream on a couple like one fuck clay
but I was actually expecting it to be a lot more and a lot
more consistent. It was it looked like an electric like
atmosphere. I swear were you sitting? We were like behind
the basket. Great tickets to shout to game time. My only
other observation from the Celtics game is that obviously
his his knees are made of glass and I don't know he wasn't
like playing in the end of the fourth quarter. But when
Robert Williams, he's the most impactful player on the
court. He was insane. Like as many blocks as he has, he
probably has so many more that just because his presence is
there, they don't even try and take shots. And it's just
and his rebounds. He just he he's like ten rebounds in
the first quarter. He brings the energy for the Celtics. Now
my question you Hank is like when you're watching that game
because that was an all time Steph Curry performs 43 points.
I think he was seven for 14 from three like just insane. It
felt like every time he was shooting the ball was going
in. Did you have that feeling standing there? Like we're
just so fucked because there's nothing you can do about
it. Like he was they you could argue that you know their
defense drop coverage all these things but there were times
when Steph they would try they would try to give him a
different look and he still would figure out a way to beat
it. It was just so insane. I think it was like nine minutes
left and the Celtics were five or six and and it was a time
out and Golden State of the Boston. These are the most
important for next four minutes and then I think they
scored like both times down the court made it to two and
then after that it was just it was a step show. Yeah. It was
also one of those weird games where it's close kind of like
game one where it's close and then they took the lead and
the Celtics just couldn't couldn't get it back and it
was over. Yeah. Right. It just ended. But it was a close game
but it was ten points at the end. Right. Tatum got hurt in
like the first five minutes of the game as his custom form
now. I missed that. Yes. It was at the French shoulder. His
French shoulder came out. That's okay. Goldsbury was saying
it's French like the big Ben walking boot thing. He was hurt
in like the first five minutes and he came back and he was
fine after that. But yeah I would be a little bit worried
if I were you guys and I thought that it looked like the
Celtics were going to cake walk their way but there's nothing
you can do with stuff like that. There's simply you can't
stop that. Hank's going to get mad at this comment but I still
think the Celtics is a better team. They are. I think they
definitely are. I do. I do too. And I also think after I mean
if you were looking for a bet after a loss they've been
undefeated this these playoffs you'd expect them to win on
Monday. Yes I do. And so I like I obviously if Steph decides
to just do that again then you probably it's a totally
different because like the Celtics is a better team but
Steph Curry is the best player on the court. So that's kind
of the equalizer at hand that we have. I think Richard
Jefferson how he explained the finals like it's all playing
out pretty much exactly that way because Andrew Wiggins was
when we were talking to Kirk Goldsbury on Wednesday night
saying like we Andrew Wiggins need to have a game where it
felt like his presence was there and it was those offensive
rebounds that he got where he had a couple of like layups at
the end of the game like he felt it felt like he was out
there make and his defense on Tatum has been very very good.
So if you go by what Richard Jefferson was saying it's bad
for the Celtics. He was saying that as the series goes on
they're going to get tired and the superstars. Yeah. Oh our man
Perk carry the hell on Kendrick Perkins. He said he's on board
to give Steph Curry the MVP no matter what I support. Yeah he
said he said no matter what win or lose Steph Curry deserves
this MVP. I'd be willing to trade in Billy not being vegan
just for the ensuing takes that would come with Steph Curry.
Yes winning the MVP and losing a losing. Yeah. If Steph Curry
wins I'm going carnivore diet only. You should only only
meet only Curry would be funny. Yeah. That that's terrible
for your battles. The series has been also a big enemy of my
enemy is my friend where a lot of the Golden State slander is
coming from the LeBron Caps teams fans and all of the ammo that
I've been using and seeing it's like yes yes yes and then I
realized that these are all Caps fans. Yeah. However LeBron
says that he he wants to play. I think he said it again.
He reiterated that he would like to play in Golden State at
the point in his career. But you're right Hank it's all like
anytime Steph has a bad game or like the Warriors lose have
lost the game in this series. It's been like well Kyrie and
Kevin Love got hurt one year 2016 happened then he needed K.
D. to save him. That's basically been the narrative
every time you just stay. It just it just goes one time it was
even they lost three one. It just goes back and forth of Steph
Curry is top 10 all time to Steph Curry has been carried to
everything and he's the luckiest player in M.B. Mickey Mouse
rings and then you can always make the argument. I love this
one when they talk about 2017 and they're like if Jerry Smith
goes up with that shot then the Cavaliers win that series.
Yeah. You can you can also say that. Yeah. It's I mean it's
it's been a fucking hell of a finals. I'm excited for tonight.
Yeah I'm really nervous. Really really nervous. We'll be
streaming. Yeah. I'll be shitting my pants. We also have
probably the biggest debate that we have to discuss ever in
terms of sports debates. This one coming from Chris Weber who
said during the game is Draymond. I was lucky enough to have
this presence of mind to screenshot it when I saw when
someone sent it on the part of my take group chat. He said is
Draymond Green the Wes Welker of the NBA. Yes or no. And if
yes what does that mean. And what does that mean for him
and Wes. Okay. Let's talk about it. Let me read it one more
time just because it is actually hard to follow. I'm with
is Draymond Green the Wes Welker of the NBA. Yes or no.
And if yes what does that mean. And what does that mean for
him and Wes. Okay. So we need him to have like a brutal
turnover that that loses him a game they should have won.
Also is he thinking to give away at the championship. Is he
thinking Julian Edelman because like Wes Draymond has rings.
Yeah. You know you guys doesn't. It's funny because you could
actually make the argument that Chris Weber is the Wes Welker
right of college basketball. Right. It's just like I don't
right. It actually fits right. Right. I think that's I think
that's you know what he's doing. He's doing that whole thing
where like if somebody's guilty of something they project and
they accuse other people. Yeah. So he's getting out in front
of it before anyone accuses him. He's just been drinking on
this. Yeah. He's been thinking about West Welker. I don't
know. I don't know where the where the analogies would
start between Draymond Green and Wes Welker. Yeah. I'm trying
to think of one. I'm struggling to think of it. So let's see
Wes Welker went to Texas Tech. Right. Draymond went to
Michigan State. He was also not like Draymond's you know
whatever the third or fourth fiddle. But I feel like Wes
Welker was also like kind of the number one receiver on a lot
of the teams he played for. I would say to obviously not with
with Moss but Clay's more similar to the way like Wes
Welker was awesome. Yeah. He wasn't he wasn't even Edelman.
Wes Welker was more of a star when he was like really good
then like Edelman worked his way up there. I could see Draymond
maybe doing Molly recreationally. Yeah. That could be a
connection. Yeah. Man that would be concussions weird Draymond
on Molly. I don't know. It's it's one of the weirdest
analogies I've ever read. I really I was thinking about it
basically all weekend after seeing it. But what where did
what where does it start. Give me one starting point that I
can be like. Yep. Okay. All right. I'm going to follow you
down this path. Wes Welker didn't he wear a fun hat at one
point. That big. Yeah. Well he he went to well he wore the big
concussion but he also went to the Kentucky Derby and he
wore a fun hat. I'm pretty sure that Draymond Green is a fun
hat guy too. Yeah. Is Wes Welker the QB are the wide receiver
coach. I think now he's Niners. He's a Dolphins now. I think
he went over with McDaniel. Okay. Oh no he was he was he for
the Texans at first. He was on the Niners now. He was the
Niners. So I guess they were they were in San Francisco at
the same time briefly although he was in Santa Clara. Yeah.
I think he needs to put that take back in the oven for a
little bit. I'm just trying to think what else. I mean how
tall is Draymond Green. He's like six six seven. All right so
not that because Wes Welker is five five ten shit. We had one
there. Let's see what else is what Wes Welker went out to
Denver. Okay. Played with Peyton Manning. Okay. The Warriors
did beat the Nuggets this year. That's true. Yep. Okay. What
else what else what else ACL. I don't think Draymond's ever
had an ACL. He was on the best regular season of all time but
lost a championship. Oh there we go. Okay. Yeah. That's where
we start. Good memory Hank. This is I yeah Chris Weber way to
go dude. I think it's just Chris Weber is the the Wes Welker
of college basketball. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very very bizarre
thing for him to throw. We don't really know if either one's
going to be Hall of Famer. Yeah. Like they're both kind of
borderline. Yeah. Yeah. Although everyone makes the NBA
Hall of Fame but yeah I'd agree like there'll be a you know
that will become a big debate. Yeah should Draymond make the
Hall of Fame. Oh no Draymond's going to be so good at like
Charles Barkley's role whenever Chuck wants to retire that
he'll he'll make the Hall of Fame easily. Yeah. Because he'll
be able to talk his way. Yeah. Right. So all right anything
else from game four that we missed that we need to talk
about what what like what does a what do you need to see
starting a grammatical lesson. Oh really about what I hate
that. I tweeted fucking a man. Oh didn't use a comma. So yeah
I was like I went I went back to my Twitter like it was just
a live tweet like during a commercial or something. Fucking
a man didn't even didn't even look at it till after the game
then I was looking you know it's like replies 20 replies 30
replies and then fucking a man had like 300. That's perfect.
You're such a good ally. Love is love. Yeah. It's Pride month.
I do think the Celtics plus three and a half is a good bet on
Monday night. Me too. I might look stupid. So I mean if the
Celtics have never they haven't lost his postseason following
the loss. They have lost too straight. That would mean that
they will win the championship. Correct. In seven. Well they
could never have one. They have one two in a row so they could
win two in a row. Fact win in six. Yeah. And you are going to
be sitting on the wood for game six which actually makes
Monday night like the most pressure packed game of your
life because you can then go and sit on the wood for possibly
a championship. Yeah. Which would be like you'd be in you'd
be in like the trophy presentation. Let's just not even
talk about it. We'll focus on tonight. No we'll focus on
clearly you've thought about it. You've thought about looking
up and seeing confetti. You're going to get on the court.
You're going to have a net draped around your neck. I'm
concerned with how much I've thought about it. Yes. Do you
think they'll get let you give a speech. Maybe not. I'm not
like not like your speech at Wisconsin but I'm not going to
talk about it publicly. I have thought about it. I drove home
today. I mean I had a five hour drive home today. You're
right. So you were thinking like all right what am I going
to say here. Not say but just like yeah no I'm not going to
talk about it. Go back to the fucking a man tweet. Did you
capitalize the letter A. No. Oh no it's even worse. So you
really were fucking a man. Yeah according to my that was my
update. That was my Twitter update in like the third
quarter or fourth quarter. It was probably after Steph like
kind of after Steph did something after my first Steph
this might sound like I should know I should know the answer
this question already but what does fucking a mean. I'm looking
it up right now. Is it is it just from from like British
people being like fucking hell. What is it. I just. What
did you type fucking. Come on Billy. What does fucking a
mean. It's OK. Where does it come from. Because I think
British people would always be like fucking L. Oh it's U.S.
slang vulgar. An expression of triumph or joy usually in
response to an unexpected good news comes from the military
saying affirmative which was said by soldiers in the heat of
battle as fucking a per affirmative which was later
shown to fucking a. And which is a fucking a man. The
meaning of this phrase has been changes now used to express
something as good. A double double negative. Yeah. I didn't
even use it correctly. I think you can also use it to be like
shit. It can just be like shit. I think that's what I was
going for. Yeah. It can be. Listen language evolves over
the years. Fucking a man. Fucking a man. Yeah. So it's
like. Did her bunker. Yeah. Fucking affirmative. Yeah. I'd
miss it. I was fucking a man. That kind of thing. I must
have missed it. All right. Other things before we get to
who's back the lightning. I think I kind of want to bet on
the lightning to win this series. It's it's going to be
interesting. They just don't lose. They don't. And this was a
karma series for the Rangers. Yeah. After that game where
the they had the Rangers fan that just sucker punched the
lightning fan the concourse which it's like you know what
I have to say memes was right. Yeah scumbag Rangers scum
Staten Island specifically. Yeah scumbags and then he
showed up for court wearing the Rangers which I respect that
so actually I kind of like I really do want like I've said
this before but I want every time there's like a major
arrest and they write about it in the news. I want to know
like what team that person yes. Yes. So if it's like if it's
a great context bank robbery. It's like Celtic fan arrested
for bank robbery. Yeah. It's the context that we all need
but yeah that the they losing four in a row. Wait no they
yeah they did right. They were up to own the series and they
lost four in a row. Yep. The lightning are just I know that
I know the avalanche are better and we're going to have
Whitney on on Wednesday to preview the whole series but
they just they just don't lose. They're just do you think
because it's hockey that no one is sick of that of the
lightning yet. Yeah and they had one covid. Yeah. So it's
like that that definitely makes it feel like I've had I've had
a few times where I've had to check myself like oh yeah
that would be three in a row. Yeah kind of thing because
if it if it was any other sport I feel like America would be
sick of that. We would hate them. Yes. But I don't think
anybody hates the lightning. It's a combo of hockey and
Tampa. Yeah. I also think that like blue sweaters are tough
in general to hate. Yeah. It was like a likeable color.
Yeah. Lightning bolts. Yeah. It's pretty sick. Yeah. But
they're they are just I mean they're nails like they just
everything about them they just they get better as series goes
on. They like tighten tighten things up. You know don't let
up goals. I don't know. It's just I'm sitting here before
the series starts and I've been thinking about what I want to
bet and everything says that the avalanche are the best
team in the NHL but then it tells me like guess what the
avalanche maybe I'll wait till the avalanche win the first
like two games or three games and then the lightning or like
all right now we're going to start playing and you're not
going to score ever again and we're going to win. I'm just
going to take the over. I'm just going to root for goals and
good games. Yeah. I want some over times. Now is the time
where we are prepared for overtime playoff hockey. Yes.
It's been it's been long enough to the point where like three
over times that won't phase me one two three one super long
overtime game would be a lot of it'd be amazing. Yes. Yes.
I'm willing to stay up. I have a programming question. Yeah.
Justin Bieber concert is still off even though yeah because
of his his face got paralyzed paralyzed. Usually it the NHL
season ends before NBA and we do Mount Rushmore at the end of
NBA. Right. Are we going to do it after NHL or after NBA.
I think we do it after NBA. Oh. When's you just you just
in Birmingham hockey game seven would be June Tuesday June
28th. That's too long to wait. Yeah. I say we do it after the
NBA early as it would end. OK. Let's just do it this way.
Let's do it. Let's just say the the date that will let's make a
compromise. So even if the NBA finals only goes six games
let's just start because this is how they always start the NBA
finals of Stanley Cup. They say like what the date is well
before. Let's just say that Mount Rushmore the first Mount
Rushmore will be June 22nd next Wednesday. I like that.
So no matter what June 22nd next Wednesday set your clock
so if Mount Rushmore if NBA finals ends on Friday we're
still going to wait till next the following Wednesday.
That will be our kickoff Mount Rushmore. Get your submissions
in. Let we need we need topics this year. You got anything you
want to hear us do. We're doing teams this year. It's kind of
like a it's like season you know seven of the challenge like
to live. Yeah. It's like the live tour. Yeah. Right. But it's
yeah that we're we do mask us. We need really shitty logo.
Oh we got logos. Yeah. All right. We'll get logo to sell merch
commenter cat. No we got to we got to do something that makes
fun of them. We'll think of it. Well we'll think of it. Well
let's we don't want to show our hands. Double anchovies.
No it's double olives. Double olives. Extra. Hold the anchovies.
And then yeah I guess the live golf happened this weekend
that that scoreboard it looked like dude perfect. It was weird
to watch the whole thing. Charles Swartz. So I I'm at the
point now where I can still disagree with the all of what
Saudi Arabia has done but then I can chuckle every time like
someone like Charles Swartz who hadn't won a tournament in
forever one and he was like yeah I like I kind of need the
money. Yeah. Like this is sick. Somebody pointed out I forget
who it was. They said that it was the tour for people who were
either heavily in debt or recently divorced. Yeah. And
that's exactly right. If you need to make alimony payments
you're going to the fucking you're going to take the money
and run and or I'll forget one other category guys who may or
may not have done steroids so much that they got hurt a bunch
and said they were going to break golf and then golf broke
them and or they have to do it if you're in debt to your
steroid dealer. Yeah right. Then you have to go. Not naming
names. No we don't we don't know who that I think Hank
undersold everyone on the tour hates already. That could also
be true. That could be the yeah but it could be another guy
too. Yeah Patrick Reed is such a perfect fit for the live tour.
Yeah. If he steals anything they're going to cut his hands
off. Also like for him it's like you go through the debates
like well will people hate me if I do this doesn't matter.
Yeah. Yeah. Did you see the Pat Perez he he basically had
come out what it was like maybe February was like whatever
Tiger says his gospel like his gold will do will follow his
lead like there was someone who commented on his Instagram
that was like in February was like go to the live tour he's
like hell no never and now he's joined and he was like after
talking with my family and realizing like the schedule
was a little easier and after speaking parentheses with my
accountant. Yeah parentheses millions of dollars. I'm now
comfortable with doing. Let's just say it moved me. It just
is a great life bigger house. It's a great life lesson to
never say no to anything definitively because you
probably will someday be swayed the other way. And that's
what they have the power to do is if anybody says no they're
like how about we just add another zero. Yeah right. Okay
yeah no now now you've convinced me well done. And then
we had this league is Rory won the Canadian Open and in his
press conference after he said that's my twenty first one
more than someone else and that's someone else being Greg
Norman who has 20 and Greg Norman had an all time picture
that was taken after the introductory press conference
I think on Thursday yes where Alan Shipnick got kicked out
yeah and then his the goons from the tour were like escorting
him out and Greg Norman was like I'm sorry I didn't see that
happen I would have stepped in then a picture came out of
Greg Norman lurking behind him with this grin on his he
looked like a great white shark actually that like smelled
blood in the water that was ready to pounce it was awesome
I listen I'm not here to judge anyone that's making a hundred
million dollars from the golf standpoint but the the rivalry
that's going back and forth and the controversy I'm going to
put the good for golf stamp on it yeah I think we're talking
about golf more yeah and except when the the commissioner
the PGA tour got on the microphone today and he was
like hey you guys remember 9 11 those are the guys that did
not he is he invoked 9 11 yeah as a reason why people should
not leave the PGA tour now everybody's like well that
that was a bit much yeah but hey he's he's got to feel a
little pressure right now yeah with the with the with the
commas that are getting thrown around yep I just hope that
I hope that they let what's Patrick Reed's wife's name
Justine I think sure I hope it should just be Karen I hope
they I hope they let Karen Karen for Patrick Reed because
the story came out over the weekend that was saying that
Justine was upset because she didn't have direct access to
the commissioner of the PGA tour to voice to voice her
complaints that she voiced on the real golf facts account
she was like trying to complain about Patrick Reed starting
times to the commissioner and he was like I can't I can't
handle you right now so that's why she told Patrick to go
over and play for the Saudis right and she'll I'm sure all
her complaints will be heard by the Saudis yeah ask to speak
to MBS's manager God see how that goes can I can I get a zoom
call with MBS next week at 11am okay cool but yeah I I'd agree
with you like good the there's been more golf talk in a non
major week than has ever happened besides like a Tiger Woods
skin it's kind of like that's it's kind of like the Super League
actually that's actually Tiger Woods like he has to feel a
little responsible hey you want to get more people talking
about PGA get another scandal because that will get people
going back the other way exactly that's the only thing
they can fight it off yeah that or Max homo winning the U.S.
Open yeah well wait so are these guys showing up to the U.S.
Open I think Phil is going to show that's all I hope Phil
where's the all black out it doesn't show back here I don't
know if DJ is going to do it that's I want all of them to
show up because that will be very fun to watch them show up
and be just shunned the bad boys yeah and hated yeah what if
one of them wins justine's wearing a job yeah she's like
she's she's they probably wouldn't put him on the broadcast
at all just needs a chick that went went for a semester abroad
yeah she got it all happening one weekend pretty sure Dustin
Johnson's playing he's a 645 a.m. practice round team time
this morning wow okay so yeah I don't know like how they're
going to cover them how they're going to talk about this is
good for golf I'm telling you like this this U.S. Open is
going to be incredible and they're only going to play because
they can't play in the PGA Tour events they're only going to
play in the majors which that's kind of all what we cared
about how awesome would that be open if it's like if it's like
Phil and Rory dueling it out yeah the final round on tiger
feeling tiger for the sanctity of golf yeah wow mouth has a
warm-up round at 857 a.m. with Taylor Gooch who's on live
there they are good friends I think yeah like actually so
okay yeah the whole thing is going to be fun to watch I'm
pumped yeah and some people are saying the price and ran
because he was scared not me not me but some people could
say that Billy said it if the Saudis are listening Billy said
it Billy's your number one fan Billy is actually huge Saudi
guy spin zone they're just stealing a ton of money from
the Saudis oh that's oh that's a good reply guy you should
say that better just be like yeah now the money like Phil
has it yeah and the Saudi Royal family yeah because it might
end up back in pen gaming exactly yeah it's good for us
it's our stock prices go up yeah Billy's gonna be the reply
guy being like actually the Dustin Johnson Foundation raised
over $500,000 for kids this year so this is actually really
good yeah I mean listen you can you can make it work oh you
want to you can do any mental gymnastics you want to do
they should just say like yeah they're paying me a fuckload
of money yeah and that's why I'm doing it that's pretty much
what Charles Schwartz was like I haven't won a lot I haven't won
a lot of money in a long time there are some people that are
that are going after the golfers and some of the guys that
haven't made that much money over their career like one of
them I forget who it was yeah there's some like the borderline
like amateur has like $4 million in career earnings which is a
lot of money but it's not like I'm set for life my family set
for it's not a lot of money if it's like 15 years exactly I
think it was like 10 years or something like that which is
still again not bad right especially for playing a sport
but then you go over and you play for the live tour and
they're giving you like $50 million guaranteed just for
signing up like that you can't you can't tell somebody like
oh I wouldn't do that right 50 million because we all have
our number right and again my number is a hundred million
yes mine as well and it is funny though like when you see
like oh yeah $4 million career earnings and then it's like
wait but it took him 12 years to do it and taxes and you know
paying the caddies and all this stuff like yeah so he he's
probably he's like he's obviously okay but it's not like
he's rolling in dough yeah it's just tough to say no to that
much money when somebody actually backs the truck up for
you it's tough to turn that down all right let's get to who's
back and then we got Paul Rable and Mr. Portnoy back to back
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order at mugsie.com who's back the week Hank who's back the
week is Tennessee doing Tennessee that was mine University
of Tennessee all for life big cat you were one of them they
were the number one seeding college baseball and they got
upset today by Notre Dame they're not even going to the
college World Series by far the favorites right like they they
had three number one picks and I remember they had a picture
this year that was hitting like 105 miles per hour on the gun
all the time which doesn't seem possible to me that means
like that that radar gun is definitely rigged right but
they kept talking about how he was like he threw three of the
fastest like five pitches of all time this year. Yeah they
were they were the bad boys ever like everyone you can tell a
team has struck a chord when everyone was reveling in the
fact that Tennessee had lost they won 57 games they had the
back controversy 49 and 0 and leading after six innings crazy
they had the back controversy they had the guy who was flipping
off the other team so they were the bad boys I don't think
yeah it's a fine line between being a bad boy and being a
clown yeah I think if you don't actually make it then you're
clown. Yeah well their coach even said after the game that he's
like I love these guys you know we had a couple maniacs on the
team I think talking about all those controversies which yeah
I mean honestly they were kind of fun to watch yeah they were
I liked watching yes and but their clowns and it's been I
follow a lot of Tennessee Twitter because of my days as their
coach and it was funny watching the different emotions that
they all went through where it was like obviously shock and
sadness and then like but SEC championship kind of more
important than anything else true like yeah maybe not and
they also got that new quarterback on NIL yeah Arch Manning
hasn't been in a Tennessee uniform yet I don't think no
Alabama and Georgia I've seen him in that's tough yeah so
maybe we got to get him photoshopped in a Jersey for
tomorrow morning that would be nice yeah just let's let's
cheer up Tennessee memes when he listens to this part get us
in a nice Arch Manning photoshopped Tennessee just a
first look yeah yeah like oh he's visiting Knoxville today
and you know what he didn't want to go to a school where
baseball took all the shine so probably a lot of fans that
already had their travel and stuff booked to go to a mom
for sure yeah yeah yeah it was a home game brutal brutal
Notre Dame yeah that's tough Notre Dame Notre Dame that's
awful yeah thoughts and prayers okay PFT year who's back my
who's back of the week is Dr. He oh Greg Williams yes Greg
Williams is back he just got named as one of the defensive
coordinators for the yet to be announced XFL teams that are
playing so if you were if you were in fear that we were going
to see the last of Dr. He running zero blitzes on third and
long no no no if you think that he was dialing up the heat in
the NFL wait till he gets to the extreme football league we're
looking for we're looking at extreme heat it's going to be
awesome just blitz every it's like how you used to play Madden
back in the day just run engage eight all the time that's
that's what Greg Williams is going to be cooking up and I
still don't know what what the XFL is going to do if they're
going to have the same cities if they're even going to have
cities they're going to the PLO model but frankly I don't
care because I think I'm just going to root for whatever
team Dr. He's coaching yeah yeah that that will be that I will
tune in for Greg Williams yeah I as long as it's not against
college basketball games but I'll tune in alright my who's back
gonna I had Tennessee so I got baseball managers instead Tony
LaRusso on Thursday before we taped early because I had to
travel was the ire of all of White Sox Twitter because he
intentionally walked someone in with a one to count making
people be like is he is he senile what's going on? I think
it was Tray Turner right? No yeah it was Tray Turner to get to
Mack Max months and he would then hit a home run yeah so but
it was a one to count I'm just going to chalk that up it's
like a it's a June weekend-ish game. LaRusso was probably drunk
yeah he probably had tied a couple on yeah and his will be
boys and then the other one was Joe Madden who got fired last
week but then the story came out later that because he was
fired in the middle of a 12 game losing streak fraud that the
angels had they've since won a game but he had gotten a Mohawk
for the team and he was getting ready to reveal it to them
and then he got fired yeah that's tough so he didn't even get
to show off the Mohawk he got fired with him and he didn't get
to even see the team with the Mohawk yeah so he just went into
the office yeah with how old is he 60 yeah I mean he's a 68
68 year old man yeah went into his boss's office with a Mohawk
with a Mohawk he's like look I got the answer got fired and
then he had to walk out of the office yeah fired with a Mohawk
on and then go home and tell his wife I just got fired today
when they had a Mohawk and they're like wait did they fire
you did they fire you because of the hair is like no it was a
12 game losing streak yeah you gotta you gotta keep the Mohawk
at least for one day right you gotta go no you gotta go you
gotta demand that you get to at least speak to the players
yeah or at least on the Mohawk I would keep the Mohawk until
my next job interview but show them the Mohawk and hope that
they win and then be like hey you sure you wanted to fire me
because the Mohawk work I actually think it's kind of fucked
up TV and still have like the outline how funny is fucked up
to fire manager in the middle of the losing streak you got to
make him dig his own way out of the losing streak right you
gotta fire him afterwards yeah Joe Gerardi to tough tough
weekend for tough week for managers he got named Joe fired
a couple weeks ago right yeah yeah yeah yeah there used to be
two Joe managers now there's zero I know is that true that's
sure yeah no more Joe's no more Joe's someone's gonna be like
dude what about the Royals manager like I don't know don't
care it's Ned Yo snow who is the who let's see let's see who
the Royals manager is it's actually is Joe it is Ned Yo still
is it no it's Mike with any Mike with any Mike with any is
the dumbest guy in the world I love Mike with he's very funny
he is he just so he just moved moved across state yeah that's
I wow I'm happy Mike with the knees back he is a total dumb
dumb okay Billy Mike's who's back is the peaky fucking
blinded oh yeah so I think the new episodes came out on Friday
new season season six and I just binge watched it all day it's
awesome yeah sick historical fiction you think about joining
a game we are going to wait wait wait wait Billy when you
said historical fiction do you just mean like a fiction show
that is set in the past in the past yeah but like involves
historical events that's just more historical fiction in the
past episodes yeah so it's like whoa right yeah like time
traveling yeah who's back yeah I'll turn it but it just came
out it's really good stuff that was your who's back last
Monday I think so no we talked about oh no throne no we talked
about if it was then we're gonna have to take I'm gonna take
emoji away no we talked about it but it finally came out I
think it was coming out I think it was in the course of
a conversation because we're doing like British accents and
stuff we were and then yeah fucking show off a fucking
Shelby yeah he he's boy in this one told me also who's back
America the barstool store go there right now we have a bunch
of America merch that's coming out this shirt you see right
here my DILF shirt damn I love freedom is coming out there's
also a milf shirt dude I love freedom dude I yeah dude I love
freedom and then there's a milf shirt that's man I love freedom
and it's a very it's we have a house divided back in my place
with Minty because he thinks I stole it from him yeah whole
big thing created milf yeah he's the milf guy parcel of
him he he he thinks he created milf milf man I love fall and
man I love football yeah but I think he's forgotten about it
because old miss one and they're going on old school milfs
I know dude turns out bends the milf guy if you're doing any
type of milf content the barstool office we got a report
you guys have like a it's an actual argument about who
created milf neither of you did by the way I know he had like
I just try to do the shirt he hasn't spoken to me since if he
found out and like I pass him all the time I think I might put
out a rival shirt that just says fucking a man I had a I had
I had a shirt I'm going to talk to merch tomorrow this you
might see this come to life this week but it would just be
like a picture of the sun on the front and then the back would
say low-key heatstroke vibes like in like the curse of writing
like like like Brianna chicken fries like hungover like yeah
low-key heatstroke I remember this summer of Loomi yeah
I still that hat hell yeah the Loomi had yeah I didn't
bubble design the design for yeah he did yes yes all right
good good who's back not taking an emoji way but Jake my
who's back is birthday reminders I have this in my phone
today Monday is Hank's birthday happy birthday yeah and I
have a reminder in my phone because we missed it last year
happy birthday and we ordered Papa Diaz on his birthday
and we were supposed to do it again this year so I'm glad
I didn't remind you guys. Oh, so we will tomorrow night.
Papa Diaz yeah. Papa Diaz for the game.
They still have Papa Diaz.
So the August 25th episode order 29 Papa Diaz.
Apologize to me for remembering when Selection Sunday was
and happy birthday Hank. Happy birthday Hank.
Thank you. Thank you guys.
29. Oh, 29 Papa Diaz. I was very worried there that you're
going to say 3-0. Hank you were so old.
I know. Yeah you are. Damn dude.
I always said that when you turn 30 I'm going to be like very
very sad you know what we got to do when you were a teenager.
We got to get somebody from like Forbes get Hank on the 30
under 30 list yeah for an executive yeah like most high
powered media executive Henry Lockwood.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
That would be so we'll make some calls.
Good reminder I'm not going to do any calls Bob is laughing
because I'm not doing anything you make a call.
Jake make a call for Hank.
You know what's going to end up happening is someone's going
to email me being like I work for Forbes and we'd love to
feature Hank and I won't reply like the bare minimum I would
know I will tell you right now I will give Forbes a quote for
Hank and everything that he does huge huge quote huge.
Okay.
What else we got?
Oh, let's get to our interviews.
We got Paul Rable and then we have Mr. Portnoy coming after
Paul Rable before we do that.
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Okay, here is Paul rabble.
Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend recurring guest.
It is Paul rabble retired.
Yeah, Paul rabble.
The PLL is back.
We're going to we're taping this on Tuesday.
We're going to run it Monday.
So my dogs are owned to own to the water dogs suck.
Let's start there.
Well, have you done this intentionally?
Is this an intentional thing to try to screw with?
Well, as you as you intro that I have Jake withers Jersey
from last year to the best owners in sports and he signed
it for you all.
It's very nice.
So it's you.
We put on a Hall of Fame.
We put on a clinic in sports ownership last year in terms
of motivating the team right this year.
It's almost like we're back to square one.
I'm told that like things are going to turn around.
Maybe once we get our goalie back.
Is that is that the case?
It's I mean, I feel like it's the blueprint.
You started in last place last year and then you finished
in first.
I feel like this is like a why are you keeping your goalie
away from us?
You know, should we just open this?
I just call it what it is as an owner's meeting.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yes.
And now you can be open with us because you're not a player
and you don't have to pretend that.
Yeah, until you don't make up the rules as they go where you
like rip a guy's helmet off and then you're like, I'm not
suspended.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, so we're everything's on the table now from our text
messages.
I just want to know like when do we get our goalie back
because it seems like PLL rigged against the water dogs
right now.
It seems like we might need to make Paul Rabel clown
commissioner T shirts.
Wait, wait a second.
I thought DeLuca was the one you wanted to keep.
I like DeLuca.
He showed some fantastic.
No, he showed fight.
He showed fight.
I'm trying to get Drew Snyder out of retirement.
Why?
Because I met him at Super Bowl week.
We actually went out the dinner.
Great dude.
Good dude.
So I was like, I want you back on the team.
I don't think he's going to come out of retirement.
I'm not sure.
I don't think that's going to happen.
Now would you come out of retirement?
Can we get you to be on the water dogs?
Because that would actually be if we lost, but I can blame
you easier.
It would make me feel a lot better.
Right.
Well, I think I think I can after this season.
My rights are with the can is now.
Oh, so we can start negotiations.
Okay, right now.
So wait, how, how's the knee feeling?
Because I know you got like a big surgery right after.
Yeah, it's not great.
So like overall body, you know, like you're six out of 10.
Really?
My knees are six out of 10 right now.
And now is that like, are you going to try to get back to
10 out of 10?
Because you're obviously retired.
Right.
Well, sort of I'm staying fit.
Does it hurt?
That's what I was saying.
Yeah, you're staying fit.
Yeah, so it sounds like you're not closing the door yet.
Well, look, guys, man, this is really going in this direction.
Yeah, we're going to bring you out of retirement.
We had it known, like we do every, every interview.
We could, I think we interviewed Barry Sanders and we're like,
so really retired.
Barry left early, Barry left early.
I'm 36.
So I mean, I think I kind of got out at the right time.
LeBron is 37.
Yeah.
LeBron's 37.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the bell's 36.
I'm 37.
Yeah.
And you're 38.
I'm, no, I'm 27.
27, 27.
Yeah.
I still got my best years ahead of me.
Yeah.
So it's, I think we all do.
Yeah.
With the dogs, if I came back and played in purple,
yeah, I think it'd be fun.
It'd be fun to play.
It'd be good to be on the same team, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Now, is this, is this tampering?
Are we tampering with you right now
since you're under contract?
Technically.
But who's going to get us in trouble, your brother?
Right.
It would have to be him or my dad.
I mean, everything's on the table right now
because I, I'm not, I'm leaving no stone unturned
and how to turn around these water dogs
because I'm not going to go through a start of a season
like I did last year.
I'll move the team.
I swear to God, I'll move the team.
You guess your time, Billy?
No, he shot the ball 97 miles an hour.
Yeah.
So about that, Billy's been going around the office
telling everybody that he shot the ball
a hundred miles an hour.
Right.
We all saw the video.
At no point did it ever break a hundred miles per hour.
He's a hyperbole guy.
You rounded up, didn't you?
Well, if I had another shot, I would have gone a hundred.
But you did have another shot.
I went 86, 94, 97.
If I was allowed a fourth shot, which I wasn't,
I would have gone 103.
Well, here's the real question.
Was the gun juiced?
I mean, you've seen, Jake, you've seen a lot of lacrosse shots.
I mean, 97.
Let's just say it was all 10-year-olds in line and Billy.
Ooh.
I don't know how it would be like.
I don't have a radar.
A radar's a radar.
Well, no, there are juice guns.
There are.
That is, I mean, that's an absolute thing.
It's, I mean, what was the fastest you have shot
before the 97?
I shot 87 eighth grade.
OK.
Wow.
87 and eighth grade.
I was like this size in eighth grade.
That's real.
Jack movie with Robin Williams.
That's kind of how he's aged throughout life.
What was your fastest shot ever, Paul?
114.
Wow.
And what's the fastest shot ever in lacrosse?
121, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who is that?
A kid who doesn't play professional lacrosse.
Can we get him on the water dogs?
Probably.
And just have him shoot?
Probably.
He's huge.
Yeah, great.
Like, looks like the rock.
How could you say, how do you save 121 miles an hour?
You don't.
Right.
You get hit with it?
Right.
So let's get him to just stand at the top of the circle,
pass it to him.
Yeah, well, how would it work if you got like a seven footer
in lacrosse?
Yeah.
It'd be pretty hard to get the ball out of their hands
if they just held their stick all the way above their head.
That's a good point.
I mean, like, what if they just walked like this?
I mean, you could body check you.
You can't just walk through the field.
I mean, also, this guy is like the size of the mountain.
Yeah, you didn't let me finish.
That was the part of the mountain.
We want to sign the mountain.
Can we make an offer?
Yeah, you could definitely make an offer.
Well, let's sign the mountain.
OK, the mountain.
I know that your big AWL, big time stool at the mountain.
We are officially offering you a contract on the Water Dogs
right now to be our designated shooter.
For how much?
Name your price.
Yeah.
Name your price.
We're like the live tour.
What gets it done for the mountain?
Yeah, whatever you need.
Whatever gets it done.
100K.
Are we allowed to take on Saudi money?
Is that on the table?
Yeah, have you thought about that in terms of your investment
strategy when you're doing like a, what is it?
Series B?
What series is money?
You know, look, you guys are shareholders.
We're business guys.
Yeah, we're business guys.
We're business guys.
We're well-capitalized.
We're not looking for outside capital.
But if we were.
We've got churning.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
What else do you need?
I've got partial money.
That's worse than the Saudi money.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
All right, so I actually think the big like just a really tall
dude holding the ball over his head.
I don't know how you stopped that.
I don't know.
The thing about tall athletes is they aren't the most agile,
but they cover a lot of ground with a stride.
Right.
Yeah.
So they don't really change.
It's like DK Metcalf.
He's really tall.
I mean, he's got everything.
He's fucking insane.
He can't go 90 degrees though.
And he doesn't have everything because he tried to have a force.
I mean, he couldn't get it.
So he does not have everything.
He couldn't get it that you know of.
Well, no, you got publicly rejected.
Yeah, publicly.
He's not a man who has everything.
That time.
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of a beta if you ask me.
I do.
I do want to compliment you, Paul, because the PLO obviously
has been very successful.
Your new deal with ESPN is awesome.
Thank you.
I watched the Water Dogs just because I basically am at the point
now where I tune into every Water Dogs game just so I can get more
information to hate on them.
But it's like seeing the broadcast on ESPN Plus is great.
How like overall, what year is this?
Three, four, four, four.
How would you like do you think you're where you want it to be?
Yeah, I would say so.
We are, we're really excited about how it's progressed.
A lot of attention, a lot of viewership, a lot of sponsorship.
Players are excited, more fans than we've ever had.
And I think in sports, you want to hit that like big turn.
They call it like the hockey stick curve.
And we were just talking outside with Josh Richard.
And he played lacrosse.
And a lot of these like tiktokers played lacrosse.
They might be to what like hip hop was to basketball in the 90s,
tiktok artists are to lacrosse.
That kind of tracks.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, he was just on his wall in LA having a catch.
And I was like, this fucking guy played lacrosse.
And so I don't know between kind of culturally trying to get people
more excited about lacrosse, more sports fans into the game.
And this is a game that's been around for over a thousand years.
We did documentary on it.
Right.
Yeah, which is our turn 15th.
Yeah, that we're in it.
Yeah.
So what do we look good?
I don't remember signing a consent form.
Your executives did, I think.
Hmm.
Oh, they signed a way, right?
Someone has signed.
Sue you to wherever we want to see.
We're shareholders.
I don't know.
And the same as why would you why would you sue us?
Let's see how the angles.
If I look fat in it, I will sue.
That's a fact.
There was a moment in 2019 in our first interview where we sat down
and you were asking about MLL, which is the group that then we acquired
after 2020.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've been through a lot.
It's it's been quite a run, but the stories have been incredible supporters.
Now, do you think that the model that you've chosen to use, which I like
where it's no team has a specific city?
Do you think that hurts attendance a little bit because you don't have
like the natural there?
You basically have to decide who you're going to be a fan.
Yeah.
Well, I think that that has got us to this position of success.
But where we want to go, that hockey stick curve, we're going to have to create
that I think that GEO model at some point, right?
Because the novelty, it's just like what you guys do when you run these bits
and stuff like you have to make a decision to continue the bits because
they're hot or like turn it and do something new.
And it's no, no, there's another option is just keep running the bit
and then it gets bad and then it gets good again.
It gets good.
Yeah, it's so bad.
So I know it's the model.
I know what you're doing right now and you're trying to feel
out when we're going to flip on the water dogs.
And become like the biggest supporter.
But you've never been a supporter.
No, you're talking you're a heel.
You're going to turn to a face of the dogs.
And then we're going to take it down to we're going to become such heels
that we end up being faces.
No, no.
I mean, if they keep playing like this, I'm going to move the team to Juarez.
Yeah.
That's the next step for us.
Yeah.
Or Qatar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly the richest team.
We will.
Yes.
Yeah.
With a great stadium with air conditioning.
Yes.
We're going to sell our souls.
So we might do the GEO model.
Do we get to decide where the water dogs?
We don't have a conversation.
So we have a conversation now.
You guys are in New York.
Yeah.
So the dogs be in New York.
No, I want it to be.
Tri-state.
No, no, no, no.
Let's put the water dogs.
I mean, you need to go to a game.
You haven't been to a fucking game yet.
The Rikers Island.
The Rikers Island water dogs.
Ralph John Maryland.
Can we have them play on an aircraft carrier that's out in the middle of the ocean?
That's a great idea.
So you're in no man's land, international waters, anything goes.
It becomes like the Amsterdam of the PLL.
Great aesthetic.
You don't have to worry about tickets.
Yeah, right.
Honestly, I would say you worry about tickets now.
With the water dogs, the way they're playing?
We have all water.
Water dogs fans, I saw them.
It's a concern.
They were by far the most.
We have the best fans.
Worst team, best fans.
If you did on an aircraft carrier, then boom, it's just we become like the military team.
Yeah.
And then you can't, it's impossible to root against the water dogs or else you hate freedom.
Right.
And so we do it out there on international waters.
Anything goes.
It does be still a limited amount of tickets to like 5,200 tickets to people from the mainland.
And you can go out there on almost like an exclusive bachelor, bachelorette type vacation.
Oh, it's like celebrity cruises.
Do anything you want.
Yes.
Anything.
Yes.
Anything.
Anything.
I'm talking like score goals.
Yeah.
Right.
Because they don't do that.
Forsyms, DK will get out there.
Yeah.
Win games, like crazy shit the water dogs never thought of.
Right.
Yeah.
They suck.
I have a question for you guys.
So we have all star game coming up.
Yep.
And speaking of like changing the atmospheres, we are going to offer our fans the chance
to suggest rules so we can pilot because we want to continue to look at the sport not
only from an operation standpoint, but also from a gameplay.
Yeah.
So exploding ball.
Much like you guys name exploding.
Okay.
So much like you guys name the water dogs.
Yeah.
Name your rule.
Yeah.
Exploding ball pass that through now.
Yeah.
It's like it's reasonably the ball becomes a grenade almost.
And so if you don't score, it's like a shot clock.
If you don't score or shoot within a lot of time period, then the ball explodes in
your stick.
Yeah.
Okay.
How do we make that?
I'm an ideas guy.
Yeah.
You can use, you can paint a grenade, I guess.
Yeah.
That would be one way to do it.
I think the goal should get bigger as the game goes along.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
So like first quarter, it's the regular size and they get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Yeah.
So in the fourth quarter, you have like chaos where it's like the scoring is, is picks up
and everyone's like, holy shit, this is awesome.
And people will be shooting from midfield.
Midfield, right.
Comebacks, like everything.
How about this one?
Yeah.
There are fights in La Crosse.
Yeah.
How about the winner of the fight doesn't have to go to the send bin?
Oh, that's good.
So if you lose, you serve the penalty.
Then you get penalized.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is the shot clock right now?
52 seconds.
Yeah, we got to get that smaller.
It's got to get 30.
I just want more shots.
I like that for all stars.
I always think there has to be more shots in a game, more action.
So yeah, I don't know what short in the field.
Take the shot clock down to 30 seconds.
Make the goals bigger.
Make the goals bigger.
More scoring is always a three point arc.
Yeah, three point arc.
I like that or the money ball.
We're just bringing that.
Oh, yeah, money ball.
So when you put one certain ball in play, that one is worth three points.
Yeah.
Okay.
How often do we put it in play?
All the time.
I would like to see a score scoring goes way up.
I like the money ball.
I'd like to see a quarter where there were two balls in the inaction at the same time.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, we got that one from Top Gun.
Dogfight lacrosse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would actually be cool though.
We're trying to figure out where the, it'd be tough for the broadcasters.
Right.
Right.
Really tough.
But man, would that be cool.
Yeah, yeah.
This doesn't really have as much to do with lacrosse as it does with Top Gun,
but what about a sport where it's like Quidditch,
but all the players instead of flying around on brooms like in Harry Potter,
they're in F-18s.
Oh, wow.
Well, you got to get your pilot license.
Yeah.
I think I probably just need to talk to the military about that.
Right.
Here's the idea.
All right.
So you got.
Sounds like the most expensive sport of all time.
Yeah.
It sounds incredible though.
I would watch.
So what about this?
How many guys are on the field at the same time?
10.
10 on each team.
Yeah.
All right.
So we add an 11th on each side and then we start the game where all 11 are on the line
and there's a ball and one team is on offense and one team is on defense
and the offensive team tries to put the ball into the end zone
and the defensive team tries to stop them.
It's like capture the flag.
Well, one player can like throw the ball forward or run it and you got to tackle them
and stop him from getting into the end zone.
The games are on Sundays and Sunday night and then Monday night you have a game.
This could be a big sport I'm telling you about right now.
What if you just change it to football and just said it was lacrosse?
People would watch.
Yeah.
Like tune in to lacrosse.
Wasn't in this football.
No, it's lacrosse.
Are you guys going to watch the XFL?
Probably not.
It depends.
No.
I might I might play in the XFL haven't decided yet.
So I tried out last time I didn't I got cut unfortunately and I have to make the decision
because I am you know getting into my late 20s.
Now do I really want to put in the time over the summer to work out and to get in shape
to try out again in the fall?
Have you played lacrosse?
I've never played lacrosse.
No.
Should we make this happen?
Can we make this happen?
I don't know.
The thing is.
I'll work out.
Yeah.
No, Billy.
All right.
Billy's acting like not interested.
No, no, but we just don't know what Billy just said.
Billy said that he's going to train me to be a professional lacrosse player, which is
just the most delusional thing he's ever said because Billy you you think that you could
actually play in this league.
You're actually built like a prime attachment like you and Rob Penella the same build.
I don't know who that is.
Dude, let's get a player.
Yeah.
Do I look you've got good hair for lacrosse?
I do have the flow.
I've got the lettuce.
I'm I think I'm like too short to be lacrosse player though.
You can use advantage like soccer.
Yeah.
Get low.
Get underneath people.
Low center of gravity a little bit quicker.
So wait, when is you asked SFL the I'm a big like sports seasons.
I respect the seasons.
Yeah.
Like as soon as football, I love football.
Obviously, I wish it was football season right now, but once football is over in in
February, it's like, all right, I like I need a break.
I want to watch some college basketball.
I want to watch some NBA.
So like when they're playing football against college basketball, I'm like, I'd rather
watch college basketball.
I want to watch college basketball.
When is the championship in the P.L. this year?
September 18.
So that's the problem.
We got to move that up.
We got to move it up.
We got to move it up.
That's another thing like that sports calendar like is very important.
Yeah.
Even even the fact that every Memorial Day, no matter what, I know I'm going to watch
the national championship college.
See the problem that be Labor Day.
The challenge is then our season so short.
But I I just think double headers.
Yeah.
We could do doubles.
We could start a little bit earlier.
A little bit earlier.
We could start earlier.
And in Labor Day be the P.L.L. Championship.
Our championship game and semi-finals kind of crush when it comes to tickets.
We sell like 15,000 tickets to those games.
But I bet you get, I guess what Big Cat's getting at is like, if it's competing against
college football or NFL, then it's tough.
It's tough to get people to tune in on TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially if the water dogs aren't playing.
Right.
And you pick a day that's like I said Memorial Day.
I don't I'm like, I'm going to I always tune into the errors the day before.
No, it is Memorial Day.
Yeah.
So Labor Day can be there's usually no college football on Labor Day.
Yeah.
Labor Day is the P.L.L. Day.
Yeah.
This is the type of owners conversations that we have.
Yeah.
We're doing live now.
Let's do that.
What about this?
It kind of goes against what Big Cat was saying about the sports seasons.
But I love snow football.
What about snow lacrosse?
Snow lacrosse is good.
Have you played?
I have.
I bet that really is like a different game.
It's a different game, especially in college because the balls are white.
So you can't really see the balls.
That's tough.
Which tough.
Our balls are optic yellow.
Same color as tennis balls.
Yeah.
As you guys know.
By the way, I didn't even mention the fact that Big Ten Brothers now.
Yeah.
Congrats.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Johns Hopkins in the Big Ten.
That's right.
Well, how'd that work?
They put a bid in for them.
Johns Hopkins was originally going to go to the ACC and then they backed out.
And now they're in Big Ten and.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People were trying to test my lacrosse knowledge.
They're like, who's even.
And you were all over it.
I was like, Google who's in the Big Ten Lacrosse?
I mean, your engagement was through the roof this weekend.
Yeah, I was.
Yeah, you were all in.
You were very upset about the water dogs.
They stink.
I would too.
Yeah.
And also the second game.
Can I say this real quick?
Because this is obviously this is I'm talking about week one.
The second game.
Who played in that game?
Chrome Whipsnakes, maybe?
No second game was Atlas Redwoods.
Fuck both those teams.
Don't like them.
No, they over under was 23 and a half and they had 12 goals in the first quarter
and they scored two goals in the second and three goals in the third.
I wanted to throw my phone through the teeth.
What's your CLP this week?
I don't know.
I should probably start doing a lacrosse one.
Water dogs.
One.
No, I think everything's still like a point and a half.
Let me see.
Yeah.
But that was that.
That was a travesty of an over.
And we got halfway there in the first quarter and they just stopped scoring.
That's the excitement of it, though.
No, that's not the excitement.
That's what I'm saying.
You need to make sure that over the overheads all the time.
I know.
I need the overhead all the time.
Problem is since we pay the guys more and they're on national television,
the coaches and the GM's are so into this thing that the intensity is
ratcheted up and defenses are fucking so tough.
So yeah.
What about a goal?
So it's locked down.
It's kind of like NFL a little bit.
And as the season goes, you'll see more scoring.
But early on, it's just defense versus defense.
What about a goal bounty?
What if for every goal scored, everybody on the team splits like in a set amount
of money that gets put out.
So like every goal, a thousand bucks, you split between everyone that's on the
field at that time.
So you think they're holding back on scoring?
I'm just saying like increase the wheels a little bit.
Increase the wheels.
A goal bounty.
And then then you could follow along and there'd be a metric on the screen that
shows how much money the players have made.
So there's a purse for each game.
Should we maybe that's our all star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just put a bunch of money in a giant pot.
Yeah.
I kind of like that.
This is what they're competing for.
Yeah.
Maybe actually just put a ladder with a suitcase full of money at midfield and
whatever climate have it just be a literal ladder match during the PLL.
What do you think about instead of a face off like the old speaking of XFL,
the old like ball in the middle, both sides just rush.
It was injured.
It was a good idea.
Except I think on the very first one they did in the XFL, somebody tore their
ACL.
Yeah, we can't.
I was not a great way to get injured.
Yeah.
No, I like as much I hate the water dogs.
I don't root for injuries.
Let's let's pivot real quick to something a little bit more positive.
Okay.
I think there's announcement that you want to make in terms of our darling Jake.
Oh, yeah.
Our darling Jake is stepping back into the booth.
Oh, yeah.
To announce a game this year.
Why were you hesitant around sharing which game you're calling?
I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.
Yeah, I could be because of ESPN.
Yeah, I don't know if they want me to.
Yeah, I just said it's coming up.
Jake's a big rules guy.
But I think I think you can say I offered him a drink on the sideline at the
game and he didn't accept because if you said it, you didn't have a water with you.
He has to have a water every time he has a drink.
But yeah, Paul, if you want to say what game it is, he will be calling the
games in Baltimore, Maryland.
Whoa, let's go.
What is that?
That's going to be when this is airing next Saturday, June 25th.
Oh, hell yeah.
Huge.
So good at 10 and 10 Baltimore.
We usually sell that one out.
Are you going to be doing the whole weekend?
No, just the doubleheader Saturday.
Saturday is Water Dogs part of that.
No, I know he's pissed about it.
That's actually good, though, because I would have the opportunity.
Yeah.
Yeah, like if you said anything nice about the Water Dogs, I would have been
mad at you.
Also, though, I'm not sure they're even Water Dogs guys.
You are an archer.
Oh, no, Billy's redwoods.
Redwoods fan.
If you're an archer, you're short-sonded.
Yeah, you got to just stand up.
Oh, it's RJ.
Paul, you got to give me tons of gear.
Billy, he's like low-key.
He's upset that he does not own the Water Dogs with us, because he in his head is
like, I like lacrosse.
I should have owned them.
It was just early.
And so he's like even said to me like, yo, low-key, can I have your ownership in
the Water Dogs?
I'm like, no.
No.
So he's now he's kind of acting out being an archers fan.
He's going through a phase.
Redwoods.
I mean, the week's going to be worth over a billion dollars.
Yeah, I know.
It's going to be sick.
It's going to be huge.
We're going to we're going to be especially when we're in Qatar.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're literally going to be on.
I'm going to buy a purple yacht on boats in the Pacific.
I'm after the Water Dogs and handball or something.
Yeah, right.
Like paddle tennis.
Yeah.
Now, would you say that Jake is a better lacrosse player than Billy is?
Because I don't know if you saw Jake shot, but he fired one past Billy.
Yeah.
Cheddar.
Yeah.
Well, we should have gotten you on that juice gun.
Yeah.
Let's see where to go.
Let's see what you would have gotten.
How about on Ruff and Rowdy?
You fight someone in the PLL.
I'm retired.
Just want to know.
Yeah.
Go out on the feed.
What if what if we what if we put you on a roster if you beat a PLL player up
like Connor Farrell, you're on the chrome.
You take on Connor Farrell.
You beat him.
You're on Chrome.
Con.
Dude, he's a tank.
He's a tank.
So is Jose Canseco.
I know, but this guy actually might like fight back.
How bad do you want this job though, Billy?
What job being a prophet?
You could be a professional athlete.
I don't worry a professional athlete.
Yes, you're a professional boxer.
Well, no, that's actually that would be that would be hype.
I think it would be better to squash league beefs in the ring.
OK, I think that because that would be great cross promotion.
True.
So another thing about Billy.
I don't know if you saw the video of the shot that he was trying to show off
and and shoot it as hard as he could past Jake, I believe was in the now.
It was Duke.
Shout out to dudes in the net and he cocked back and he really did a lot
of like wrist flicking and, you know, the whole nine yards showing off a little bit.
What happened?
And then the ball just fell out of his crate with his cradle.
No, my stick had no hold.
Is that what?
Yeah.
But his fault was that who was strung your stick.
Some guy.
I think it was you.
I think you strung your stick.
What does that feel like?
I mean, that's you.
That's definitely happened to you once.
Never.
Yeah, it happens.
Never.
It's never happened to you.
Yeah, I mean, I pick up the stick first time in 60 years.
Just like try to crank one.
Was that your first shot?
One of them.
Got it.
Were you talking to Belichick the other day?
Yeah.
How'd that go?
Pretty good.
He's a big fan of the sport.
He loves, he loves the PLL.
Does he, he actually like follows and watches the games?
Yeah, he came to our opener.
He's like deep into training camp right now, but he's obsessed with lacrosse.
He was recognized at the tour ton ceremony, which is like essentially the Heisman for
college lacrosse.
He was recognized as the spirit award winner, which is basically like like a C award.
And he had a, the event started at six.
He had his private jet leaving one Patriot place at 330.
And then there was a ton of traffic.
So they held the event to start for him to come.
He got there.
He did some interviews and the people who were running the event were like, you know,
is a coach going to give some acceptance remarks?
I was like, I'm sure he will.
Like what do we need?
He didn't send a speech in and they have teleprompters.
And I'm like, I hope he'll be fine.
He'll probably say a few words.
The man talked for like 15 minutes because he is obsessed with lacrosse.
And I think that that's like Belichick.
Anyone who's like said a story about him, if you can get him talking about something
he's really interested in, and it's not like the routine media, like how, how the guys
play today.
Like he was talking about riding and clearing and face offs and stick work against the wall.
And did you win the Heisman?
I did not.
How close were you?
I came in second twice.
Shit.
I know.
So pissed.
Have you ever won the spirit award?
I have not.
Wait, was it bullshit?
Do you think?
No.
Do you think you should have won?
I do.
Yeah.
I think I should have won.
What was the, like, was there politicking involved?
What was the reason why you didn't win?
I mean, we can, we can roll out conspiracy around that.
Yeah.
I know that I felt like I was a test dummy.
I, I won the championship my junior year, lost the Toraton, lost the championship my senior
year, lost the Toraton, went the other way both times.
Right.
Cause like the Heisman, usually like the best player on the way the team gets it.
Yeah, doesn't win the title.
Yeah.
So, so who won instead of you?
Matt Donowski, my junior year.
And then Mike LaValle, my senior year.
So have you ever talked to Belichick about, you know, when he's done coaching the Patriots,
if you would ever want to become a coach in the PLL?
Yes.
You think he's interested?
Yes.
Whoa.
Now that would be awesome.
I want him.
For the water dogs.
I want him.
Maybe that's what you.
That's our money ball, is we just got the greatest sports coach of all time.
Mortgage everything.
Yeah.
Well, he's not, he's not a part of a.
Yeah.
You actually, you don't have to mortgage anything.
You just go start negotiating with him.
Yeah.
Paul.
So here's what we're going to do.
Andy Copeland's not going to feel great about it.
Mm-hmm.
I think he'd understand.
You won't get a coach by then.
I think he'd understand if it was Belichick.
Do you think that like, you know, just given his history with the sport and also, you know,
his career being, you know, a great head coach in a different sport, how long do you think
it would take him to seamlessly transition into being a professional lacrosse coach?
Do you think it could be done?
I feel like he would win in the first three seasons of coaching.
If not sooner.
I mean, I don't think he really coaches football.
He just coaches.
He coaches human beings.
He's so good at that.
Right.
I mean, the number of draft picks that come out of nowhere that turn into stars and even
lacrosse players, he has a knack for bringing them over into the NFL.
Yeah.
I think he understands the nuance of sports and blueprint of winning better than anyone.
Yeah.
And he also would put like smart people around him.
Smart people around him.
He commands insane amount of respect.
Yep.
I mean, I told you guys this, but when we, when I first met him, he came to a Hopkins
practice.
He like stepped into the locker room was motherfucking us up and down around like our stick work
and this six on six possession.
He's got photographic memory.
So he then just like, he just commands a room.
And all of a sudden you listen to Bill Belichick coach you on lacrosse and you're bought in.
Right.
Right.
I want him.
Yeah.
I want him.
We want him.
Yeah.
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Last question.
Real, real question.
Give us the five years.
Where are we at in five years?
I know you've thought about it.
You've done a dream board with it.
Yeah.
Where, where, what does it look like?
What's like the big benchmark that we should be looking for?
So the sports going to be getting ready for the Olympics in 28 and five years.
Okay.
That'll be huge.
We're finishing a pitch in July.
You guys should come to it.
In.
Where is it?
Birmingham, Alabama.
Out.
Okay.
No, I love it.
Okay.
The PLL will be a top six sport in North America.
There's just so many.
It's competitive now.
I used to say like you were always talking to the big four, but it'll be a top six.
So you say top six.
That means number six.
Someone's got to go.
So who's going?
Who's five soccer?
It could be.
I mean, we're in the summer.
So, you know, soccer is a force globally and an MLS I think is the second most important
league to get in right now in the world.
And that's outside the box because the Premier League is number one.
But being a part of American sports is just where all the commercial rights are.
What's the cross right now?
Penalty minute.
No, no, no.
I'm saying in the sports.
We're probably seven or eight.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of what else would be like obviously soccer.
Rugby.
Well, football, basketball, baseball.
Hockey.
Hockey.
Then you have like golf, UFC, tennis, rugby.
I'm going to keep saying rugby until you acknowledge it.
We're ahead of rugby.
MLS ratings pretty good this year.
Yeah.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
F1.
Start to make a run.
Yeah.
I mean, everyone wants live sports because it's the last standing firewall for advertising
dollars.
Sure.
So we'll be in a good spot either way.
We'll be in a good spot.
Yeah.
So the business is growing.
I think in five years we'll be in markets for sure.
So we have to figure out where the water dog is going to be.
We'll still, I think we'll renew and we'll be with a big network partner like ESPN.
We need to turn our athletes into celebrities.
I think that's what makes the NBA so exciting.
It's like literally these guys are A-listers playing on the floor every other night.
It's like if the Kardashians played hoop.
Right.
Right.
You need to get guys more on like social media and stuff.
Interacting.
What do you mean?
What do you think makes a star?
I mean, basketball is tough because it's just like the league obviously where it's gone.
Like it didn't happen overnight.
It's happened a long, long time.
You know what I mean?
Magic and Bird, Jordan, like all these things, LeBron, Kobe, you know, the star stars that
rise everyone else up with it.
I don't know.
I just think that I think lacrosse players do need to do a better job of being accessible,
being online, you know, tweeting each other like this league type of shit, which is kind
of annoying, but also definitely sells.
It's a similar culture in lacrosse.
This is in baseball and hockey where it's like kind of mum is the word.
Yeah.
Don't say anything.
Don't play.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
I mean, the water dogs aren't active on social.
Maybe that's the issue.
That could be it.
You could do in the NBA, they always have like the videos of the guys walking into the locker
room beforehand where they're wearing like ridiculous outfits.
Just force people to wear stupid clothes and be like, oh man, I can't believe this guy's
wearing this.
We have GQ Sports that wants to feature our pregame fits this year.
We've got to do like big documentary films like we're doing, but then what's our drive
to survive our hard knocks massively distributed on like HBO or Netflix or E plus.
Yeah.
The two other big things gambling obviously is big.
So making people, you know, I think it's pretty straightforward what you're gambling
on with PLL.
It's not like a confusing thing game to gamble on.
And then an awesome video game, video games, huge, like if you could get a video game that
is very fun to play and and like just the gameplay is great.
That is such a key to opening up so many should it be like Madden is to football or NBA Jam
was to hoops.
See that's a tricky question.
You could almost make it a mini game in Madden where you could do a side quest as Bill Belichick
where you now coach a lacrosse team and then you play the lacrosse game inside of Madden.
Yeah, that would be huge.
But I think I feel like NBA Jam lacrosse would be fun.
Yeah.
But a video game is very important.
We could do the grenade balls.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
You just have a bunch of kids who like you think about it when you were a kid and you
loved the sport.
You played the video game.
That's how I learned about Tony Hawk.
Right.
Right.
And how I learned about Chelsea football clubs through FIFA.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Otherwise I had no interest in all those things.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
So it's a video game, our team's expansion into markets, gambling, fighting, documentaries,
docu-series, some kind of big controversy, huge controversy, athletes become celebrities.
More beer tents.
More beer tents.
More beer at games.
There's only two.
Yeah.
I looked under your chair when you left.
There was like at least a dozen beers.
That was also due.
That was also due.
At least a dozen beers.
Taking emoji away.
That's great.
I was excited about that.
Oh, 50-50 raffle at games.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We do that.
Okay.
Yeah.
What's it get to?
I don't know.
Maybe 10,000?
We need to juice the pot.
Juice the pot.
Yeah.
Can we get you guys to games?
No.
Why not?
Yeah.
And then you said Long Island.
I said no.
Is it high-five?
What if?
What if?
What if?
Is it in the office?
Yeah.
Long Island is a game coming up.
No.
Or we could do Baltimore when Jake's calling it.
No.
I don't get to watch him on TV.
Come on.
You know that.
What if we figure out a way to fly you private?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Now in Vegas.
Does it land on the field?
We could, if it's a helicopter.
Okay.
Vegas?
Oh, Long Island.
We could get a helicopter you into Long Island.
Yeah, when's Long Island?
Two weeks after Tribeca.
Okay.
I'm not saying that is a mean thing.
I think that's actually nice of me to say it to your face instead of being like, I think
it's actually bad to be like, oh, I'll be there.
Yeah.
Save me a seat.
Like, no, I'm out.
Right.
I might go.
I might go.
Save me a seat.
So helicopter.
I want to watch the documentary.
We put you on.
What's it going to be on after?
We're figuring that out now.
Beautiful.
I will watch it.
If I guarantee that.
Well, you're in it.
You're actually in the credits.
You guys roll credits.
Love it.
I'm excited for the whole fucking film.
I love it.
I'm going to watch it.
I'm very excited for that.
It took us a while to get the release though.
Yeah.
Because your legal team is tough.
I wish we hadn't given it to you.
Right.
I wish I had given you those shares.
I wish we had held out.
I'd like to have them back.
Real talk.
If you can get us in a room with Belichick.
Oh.
At one of these games.
Then I would go.
If we could interview Belichick.
Let's do it all star.
Let's do it for all star.
If we want to do that.
If we could interview.
I think I'm on vacation.
July.
Wow.
I can't.
I only take one vacation a year.
The football season getting BB.
So this is part of my take.
This is true.
We don't take vacations on the show.
I don't take vacations.
And that family would kill me if I'm the one vacation.
July is like the only month that we don't have nonstop.
You're taking the whole month.
Well I'll be.
I'll be in and out of the office.
Where are you going.
I'm just going out east.
That's what you're going to say when you don't want to.
That's like when you're saying the Hamptons.
Yeah.
It's like when you're going to college and you say right outside Boston.
Eastern Long Island.
Okay.
It's Harvard.
I get it.
All right.
So don't don't make that ask yet.
Well yeah.
It's because like that's that's beach month for us.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's going to be tough.
I'll try to wait.
Sure.
Yeah.
All stars.
Atchalette.
You want an interview with Bill Belichick.
And then we'll go to any game you want.
That I will greet.
That's going to be super hard.
It's gotten more difficult to get him.
I'm sure.
Because of those text messages.
Wait.
What's harder.
Getting Bill Belichick on part of my take or getting part of my take to a PLL
game.
Pretty much the same.
So that's a unstoppable force for some move.
Right.
Right.
I guess you're right.
I mean you could frame it like I could make it happen.
Yeah.
These guys are owners of the game.
Yeah.
And what if we could talk to him about lacrosse.
We'd also ask him about football but it lacrosse would be a talking point.
All right.
So private.
No we don't even know.
Yeah.
No.
That's off the table.
That's straight up Belichick for us.
Okay.
Belichick on PMT.
PMT at PLL.
Done.
Easiest could be.
Okay.
The easiest trade we've ever made and we will go anywhere to get Belichick.
Yeah.
Who wins in that deal.
I think everybody.
Everybody.
That's a win win.
That's a win win.
That's a true win win.
That's a dream to get Belichick on PMT.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
God he would be so good.
It would be incredible.
It would be incredible.
And also if we could have Steve in the background just making weird faces.
He would be so good too.
Yeah.
He would be fantastic.
He played lacrosse.
The Rutgers.
Yeah.
All right.
So we're this is good.
So it makes sense.
That's going to be my that's going to be my angle.
There's going to be a lot of synergy here.
You guys are going to talk PLL.
Yep.
If he comes on the show.
No NFL.
Yeah.
We'll we'll tell you whatever you want to hear.
Right.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Definitely.
No football questions.
Cool.
Great.
At all.
Great.
All right.
We'll Paul Rable.
This is good.
This is productive.
Always great to see you.
Congratulations on everything.
I sincerely mean that.
Love being on deals.
Awesome.
The documentary is awesome.
I'm going to keep watching the PLL.
It's just watching La Crosse.
And it works.
Yeah.
No I do watch.
You know I watch.
Yeah.
Because I comment on things that you have to watch.
I mean.
You own shares at a company that's going to be north of a billion dollars soon.
Yeah.
That purple yacht's going to be sick.
We're going to just be honking the horn while Billy's in his kayak.
Is that where you're going to name your yacht?
Water dog.
Yeah.
Water dog.
It's not bad.
Yeah.
That's pretty good.
All right.
Thanks for doing it.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
So if we raise more money and as part of that investors can take secondary if we go public
or if we get bought.
Interesting.
Okay.
Okay.
You'll let us know.
I'll let you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll do another podcast when that happens.
Beautiful.
And then we'll talk about what we're going to do with our money.
Pops and champagne.
Yeah.
Right Billy's face.
Guess what.
If you're listening to this show right now.
We're going to buy homes out east.
If you want to know.
If you want to know how to get us to stop doing this podcast.
You can watch the PLL.
Drive the ratings up.
Go out to a game.
Increase our net worth.
That way we can sell our shares.
And then you'll never hear from us again.
Okay.
Here's here's my my request.
If we get BB on PMT.
Can we do that episode live from the sideline of a PLL game.
We won't.
We won't broadcast it live but we will record it live.
Yeah.
We'll be we'll stand on the sideline with him.
That's kind of cool too.
Yeah.
Okay.
Done.
Okay.
Alright.
We'll be right back with more information on the PLL.
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And now here's Mr. Portnoy.
And now for something completely different.
It's been way too long, but we figured now is a good time to have our lawyer, what other
job titles do you hold though a bunch of job titles, but our lawyer, mostly our lawyer,
it is Mr. Portnoy.
He is back with us.
Do you want to start with the three words or?
Oh my God.
Oh no.
Was that bad that I started with that question?
You know it.
Probably.
Oh.
I'm Patriots.
Yup.
Shout out.
Yup.
Oh my God.
Don't tell me.
Oh, you've got it.
It's one of your best words.
Patriots shout out.
I give up.
It's an app on your phone.
You can do it.
You can do it.
We've turned this word into like a remix of our outro song on the show.
You're famous for this word.
Yeah.
It's an app on your phone.
Oh my God.
Give me another hint.
Okay.
Cars.
Cars.
Yeah.
Patriots shout out.
I'm sorry.
It's an app on your phone that you use to get a car.
Uba.
Yeah.
There we go.
There it is.
He's back.
Thank you.
I'm sorry.
I needed some help.
No, that's fine.
So I mean, first of all, how are you?
What's going on?
What's new in Mr. Portnoy's life?
Yeah.
Before we start, I got to tell you something.
Okay.
You know what the show on now called Barry?
You ever watch that?
The best.
I love it.
Do you?
Did you notice what the doofus caught his name was?
No.
Wait.
Big guess.
Was it?
Wait.
I maybe have not got.
Is it only season three?
I'm three episodes in.
Oh, this is, uh, I don't remember which episode number it was, but it is a
cop who's a doofus.
Oh, no.
And his, uh, he's investigating the death of that, uh, other car.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Okay.
And he's kind of in charge of the investigation.
And on the last episode that first time I noticed it, they said his
nickname was big cat.
Damn.
That's tough to be a doofus cop.
Although, you know what?
That show's so good.
I'm honored because I love it.
Love that show.
I think it's very, very funny.
I do find it, uh, I might have missed some.
I find it a little difficult to follow.
And I think it's very, it's a doc comedy for sure.
It is.
And it's, I agree with you.
It's one of those shows.
I was actually complaining about it.
Maybe that this is a sign that, you know, uh, I'm entering the next
phase of my life where the third season came out and I was like, I
don't have any clue where I'm at.
In this storyline.
Like I had lost all, all knowledge of the show.
So I agree with you on that.
I thought a couple of episodes where the, uh, the guy that wants to
be the actor that's the, uh, Dave, whatever, Bill Hader.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That he was having trouble getting connected to his phone.
I thought that was unbelievable.
Yes.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yes.
I know it's that no spoilers, but yes, that was a very good one.
You have to go outside the, outside the automobile to try to connect.
Yep.
So we can go kill somebody.
Yes.
Yes.
Very good show.
That was hilarious.
So what else besides watching Barry, what else you got going on?
Uh, I have some, I, I know you want to complain for me.
Uh, I can give you one.
Yes.
Uh, starts with, uh, the Boston Globe.
I know you folks don't complain.
The Boston Globe.
I know you folks don't read or look at the Boston Globe.
I do, although I'm not really that happy with it.
There are other publications that I think at this point are better.
Okay.
But I was looking at the globe the other day and all of a sudden, and by the way,
I have, I have it on my app and I, you know, I buy it and whatnot.
Uh, so all of a sudden when I was looking at it, I saw it would cut in and it was,
and it was telling me that I can subscribe to the globe, the globe for X amount of
dollars.
Cause the problem with that is I already do subscribe to the globe and I've seen it
before.
When that comes on that, that cut that it cuts in telling me I can subscribe to the
globe.
The problem is I already do.
Right.
But that's a signal that they don't have that registered somehow with them at that
point.
Somehow they don't have me and all of a sudden it's a subscriber and of course that leads
me down to the rabbit hole of trying to find out why I'm not a subscriber listed with them
and come to find out they had the email, my one, I only have a couple of emails.
You print people probably have a little 10 burner burner counts, but I only have to have,
I have two.
All right.
One I use all the time.
The other one I hardly ever use.
So I thought for some deranged minute that maybe they're telling me that they have sent
me a notice of my status and for one deranged minute, I think, well, maybe I shouldn't use
this other email, which is not the general one I use and I'll get rid of that and just
go to the one I always use and change it.
So obviously that sent me down a rabbit hole of maybe an hour and a half trying to get
back to where I was.
I'm not trying to get ahead.
I'm just trying to get back to where I was, change my email instead of the one to the
one I always use to this other one that they have that I never use.
And it was just a disaster.
It was just a total disaster.
I'm not exaggerating when I tell you, I was on the phone finally speaking to someone,
then we started to talk about why am I paying X amount of dollars when five minutes after
I spoke to somebody, the first thing they said to me, oh, by the way, we can reduce
that rate.
It was originally going to be $16, I think, for every four weeks, we got a better offer
for you, $4.
When somebody drops from $16 to $4 after you say hello, what does that tell you about
what you're being charged to start with?
I'm going to customer forever and they're charging me the highest rate they have.
So that whole thing deteriorated and that is my complaint.
And I think I finally, and I shouldn't even say this, I think I straightened it out.
But as we're speaking right now, I'm not sure.
Yeah, a little tip to salespeople out there, don't give away everything right up front
because it actually, it makes the customer feel worse about what they're purchasing
because then they feel like they were a sucker for even talking to you.
As usual, you are on point, my friend.
Thank you.
That is, and it happened so fast after I said hello, basically said, you want to keep
a rate?
I mean, I didn't even get to say who I was, you want to keep a rate, take it, take it.
And that's what happened.
I'm just happy because I thought when you initially started that complaint, I thought
it was going to be a discussion about the journal, journalism in America and the state
of journalism in America.
No, it's just simply a login problem.
Well that I could discuss with the state of journalism in America.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you one thing that I have a general complaint.
I cannot, I can't turn on the TV anymore, I'd say on CNN and one of these other channels,
regardless of their political leanings.
One way that I can't because the ads drive me bananas.
Wait, wait, wait, so not the news.
I fucking hate this, my pillow guy.
Yeah.
Say that again?
It's not the news.
Nothing to do with the news.
No, nothing to do.
I'm sick of William Shatner, Joe Gamus, Chris Berman, Coshield, Ernie Hudson, Jimmy J.J.
Walker, trying to sell me stuff.
Should I get another social security, they can give me a better deal on my social security.
What about my car, what about Coshields?
You better get a car because you need Coshields.
Something's going to go wrong with your car.
You don't buy Coshield today.
Thank you, Joe Namus.
Thank you, Chris Berman.
You better do this.
All these has been, all have one thing in common.
I hate to say it about Joe Willie Namus, but you, and you're the folks who know this, if
you're going to oust the common sense, you don't go in these ads for these crazy companies
unless you need the dough, right?
Right, right.
And when you're talking about somebody like, should Joe Namus need money?
I hope not.
He might.
He might.
The guy gets around town.
Yeah.
He might.
What about you?
What about William Shatner?
He goes to the moon.
Yeah.
That's true.
That one's weird.
And Chris Berman, I would say probably doesn't need the money.
He just, you know, he likes to be on TV.
Yeah.
He's on TV.
This is so great though.
I love, like we need more of this in America right now where everyone's divided.
We can get behind the news sucks because of the commercials, not the news.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, and not that they're worried about somebody like me, but I just can't watch
it anymore.
I don't even get, I don't even get to what the content, because I can't watch it.
Now, I cannot watch it.
Now let me ask you a question.
Okay.
Let me ask you a question though.
Would that be different if you're the guy that basically got you out of bed every day
for four years was still in office because I feel like you'd still be watching because
you were on, you were on Trump's ass like white on rice, you know, something I'm going
to answer.
One thing I'm going to say to you right now, I expect Trump to be doing one of these commercials
sooner rather late, but that's me to handle there.
Yeah.
No, that was a different time for me.
That was the one time in my life, I suppose I was so enraptured by what was going on
with my hate that, but that time has gone by.
I mean, he's still hanging around whether he, and I guess if he really got involved
with getting the nomination, et cetera, I would be, you know, involved as I was before.
You would overlook the commercials.
Yeah.
You'd be back.
You'd be like, okay, you know what?
I'll deal with Joe Thysman talking to me about his prostate.
I want to see what's going on with Trump.
Right.
And right now as we're speaking right now, that doesn't exist.
There's nothing pulling me in like the Trumps did yet.
So the commercials become a, you know, what's the right word, a fungible situation.
Yeah.
We need to get you on Truth Social.
We'll sign you up for Trump's social media app so that you can reply to him directly.
Now you did.
Oh, by the way, you know, those commercials, and of course I don't watch Fox, the little
that I do once in a while, they're the same on Fox, there's no difference.
The commercials, the commercials are the same and the commercials live and they're not going
to die.
All right.
For these products that nobody wants or needs, but you know something, what I keep telling
myself as I get more upset about it, these must work.
These commercials.
Yeah.
Somebody's buying this shit.
Yeah.
Somebody is.
They track this.
You know that better than anybody.
This stuff is all tracks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They know what's working.
It's working on you because I bet you if you had to go buy a car shield, you'd be like,
didn't Joe Nameth tell me where to get that?
It probably work.
You know something?
I can't picture myself buying any of those.
I can't.
Do you know why?
Because I know what you just said and maybe it's just the way I am.
By definition, when I see them up there, those products are fried.
Yeah.
I mean, what I'm saying to you is they wouldn't be advertising there if they weren't a fraud.
And I get, because believe, I know you'll find this hard to believe, but I have on occasion
checked with the FTC site and other things to see various of these companies have all
sorts of consumer complaints against them.
And what a shock.
You know what?
So you're just.
You have a million complaints against them.
Are you just casually like on a Tuesday afternoon, just going on to the Better Business Bureau
website and just checking out like, Hey, how are these companies doing?
I'm not going to answer that.
That's a leading question.
I'm not going to answer that question.
So you decide to yourself, you know me well enough, you decide to yourself.
What's one thing that you've, you've been really enjoying in your life?
Is there a product or a service that you've thought to yourself like, Hey, this is, this
is really hitting all the right notes for me.
I mean, that what did I didn't see advertised here?
Yeah.
Just like, what are you really into right now?
You know, something I think those type of products that I'm getting, I'm not seeing
up like this.
I really don't.
I think I guess the best way for me to answer that is that the desire for me to get the
product starts with me first.
Yeah.
I need something.
Maybe I need, for instance, I need an improvement for something on my grill.
I just thought the top of my head.
I know there's a pan that I bought.
Okay.
But the need started with me.
I saw that I needed it.
Then I went online to Amazon and checked out what was available.
All right.
So that's a little different than somebody yelling at me that I need cash deals or that
I bet it, what's my, what's my, I better get an update on all my social security payments
because what I have isn't good enough.
You know what I mean?
The impetus is starting.
I've determined that in my life, I need a product, this particular product.
And then I go hunt for it like anybody else on Amazon, but it starts with me.
I can't think of anything to tell you the truth on the top of my head that I saw one
of these for blanchard, that's a Jewish word, ads on one of these for blanchard sites that
lit that interest in me.
I can't think of it.
It obviously works for other people, just doesn't work for me.
Yeah.
How have you considered getting a reverse mortgage?
A reverse, I'm not in that market anymore, but there was a time when I certainly years
ago looked at that and I'll tell you something, you know what, I see I'm different.
And I saw it and I did it one point, we're talking about 10 years ago when they started
with the reverse mortgages, their ads, they started with their ads and I think the first
guy had started with it is now deceased with the ads.
The ads started with his sentence, this is not a scam.
Yeah.
I mean, that was the furthest thing from my mind until he put it in my little kept, this
might be a scam.
See, I'm different.
The way I'm a Y is different.
You know what I mean?
If somebody says in their ads, by the way, this is not a scam and the guy, the first
guy that did it was a well-known congressman who has since deceased.
I think, you know, I wouldn't even think about whether it was a scam until he said it.
Now we've talked to you about this before, this, this legal loophole, but if he had said
this is a scam, he can legally get away with it.
Right?
So I presented that idea to you that if we basically started an investment fund and
we're like, Hey, listen, this is a Ponzi scheme.
And then if people invest, how can we be in trouble?
We told you right from the start.
Yeah.
But it's on the other side of the coin.
Who is going to buy a product that starts with the sentence?
This is a scam.
I think there's a lot of people because there's a lot of people who are like, maybe they're
just joking.
You know, that reminds me of when you, when we started talking, the three of us for a
long time, you started saying, this is parody.
Yeah.
Parody law.
Parody law.
Yeah.
I thought you were using the word parody.
You're saying it's all equal.
You know, like this is everything.
And I didn't realize until about the fourth time I was on that you were talking about
comedy.
Yes.
Yes.
You can do parody law.
You can, you can literally take somebody's money from them if you're making a joke out
of it.
Well, I don't know.
Like I say, I'm wired a little different if you started to add me and said, by the way,
this is not a scam, a scam, all right, that's going to, I'm going to start to say, well,
I better check this.
We're talking about, say the reverse mode is a good example.
Yeah.
And that's, that's how they, there's an example of a company that started their advertising
with, by the way, this is legit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, so, so I'm wired that way.
Why are these things?
It's legit.
I mean, it's not, but now I'm going to start to investigate it.
So I'm not your average consumer, obviously.
Right.
Yeah.
You're built.
You're literally built.
You got to wake up a little early in the day to pull one over, pull one over on you.
Now, is there, from a legal standpoint, has there ever been any decision that's written
or any like casework around the idea of sarcasm in an ad?
Can you be sarcastic?
So could you say like, oh, I think there've been many, I think there've been many cases
that have dealt with it, whether or not what was being said was obviously quote unquote
parroting.
Oh, I think there's a lot of cases about that.
Yeah.
Like if you were to be like, oh, this is definitely not a scam.
So you're saying, well, Nancy, I'm totally not going to take your money.
No, I would, me.
No, I would never do that.
I, you know, when you're talking about things like this, you're really going to, you're
just throwing things out there right now.
You got to plug in something that is a real fact patent.
And I'm telling you that there are many fact patents, can't think of any of them off the
top of my head, but you can find many of them that talk about a fact patent that the court
came down and said that nobody would have taken what was being said here as being other
than parody, parody, not equal parody, i.e. comedy is allowed.
If it's obvious that it's comedy, it's going to be obvious that only an idiot would think
that somebody's being truthful here.
So I think we're good.
So basically telling us we can't do anything legally.
Yeah.
If you have a lot of idiots, the more idiots you have, the better off you are, I guess.
Yeah.
Is it more helpful if you're an idiot yourself when you're promoting your product?
If you're like, hey, listen, I'm really, really dumb.
As usual, you ask good questions.
My answer to that is, I think if somebody was defending what they had said, and I guess
they would try to say, look, everybody knows PFT is in the human business.
He's in the sarcasm business.
Bastoul is a human site.
And if you're going to take something that was said there as being the truth, all right,
it's much more difficult than if you are going to try to sue something you saw in an
article in the New York Times.
Yeah.
Don't you see that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're so consistently wrong about everything, then why would you take anything that we said
seriously?
Yeah.
And I think, I think I'm hoping, I think it's pretty well accepted that Bastoul sports,
the onion, these are comedy sites.
So if you're going to sit back and sit, they said that there was no problem with reverse
mortgages on the onion or Bastoul sports, that's a little different than if there was
an article in the Wall Street Journal of the New York Times saying, somebody's quoted
in there as saying, reverse mortgages, there's no problem at all.
Okay.
So I'm going to get into the reverse mortgage business.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, if you folks, you got to change business.
No, we could do two things at once.
Listen, I can, yeah, I can multitask.
It's not a scam.
Step one.
Somebody can get an article in the New York Times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would you be willing to endorse it?
Would you become, Mr. Porter, would you become our Chris Berman and you can sell, would
you become like our Chris Berman, our Joe Namath and sell reverse mortgages to our listeners?
We'll pay you handsomely.
Yeah.
Very handsomely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just to get off topic.
I can't believe I would do that.
Did you folks see that Caller Daddy was in the cover of the New York Times?
I did not.
I didn't, but that's hilarious that you did.
Are you sure about that?
Well, somebody sent that to me on the cover of the New York Times magazine.
What?
That ain't nothing.
Are you a big, are you a big Caller Daddy fan?
I wasn't until I read that article.
Oh, and now you are.
Yeah.
I want to tell you something.
It was very interesting and nothing bad said about Bastille.
Nothing at all.
No.
But nothing really, there was nothing in there where she said that I love them or they've
been very, she mentioned it, but not in a negative way.
I think she could have been a little more effective and say, you know, they helped me
get my start.
They were very good to me.
They were good to me.
I had no problems with them.
I don't know.
She just didn't go into that too much.
It was very neutral.
Well, you know what?
And believe me, you know, damn well, the guy was salivating from the New York Times, hoping
she would say something terrible about Bastille or David Portnoy and she didn't.
I would, I would guess, I would like, and I have no fact, you know, there's no facts
around this is a total guess.
I would guess that she probably did praise us, uh, more than what was printed and knowing
the writer in New York times, they're not going to just, they're not going to print
something that is positive towards us.
Cause I think it's, it's that skewed now where it's like, if someone says something positive
about us, they're like, well, we'll just never say that.
We'll never repeat that.
Yeah.
Well, you're right.
Because by the way, you won't believe this.
I just got to talk about Uber.
I just got an email from Uber obviously.
Oh, they're listening.
They're listening.
Yep.
They're listening.
But what I was going to say, they also put in the New York Times, they had on a sidebar
that David Portnoy has been accused, you know, that whole Michigas, so they couldn't resist
getting that in there.
Yeah.
They also, she didn't say that, but they had a sidebar with all the little facts and
they did mention that, that he's been accused of this, that and the other thing and that
currently he has sued them.
But I'm sure they put that in there grudgingly.
But they did.
Yeah.
I do like, I'm reading the article right now, I like in the opening paragraph, they say
she's developed a following of millions of loyal listeners since debuting her Ranchi
Sex and Dating show on the aggressively laddish Barstool Sports site in 2018.
That rocks.
Yeah.
But she didn't say anything like that.
We're aggressively laddish.
Yeah.
That's almost, that's a feather in my calf.
We're for the boys.
Say that again.
We're for the boys.
I still am here.
We're four.
We are four.
You are for the boys.
For the boys.
Yeah.
You are down for the boys.
I'm sorry.
I'm not hearing what you said.
No.
You got it.
You said it.
You said it.
I think like we're down for the boys.
Like we were, we're just guys being dudes.
We like to hang out.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
We're on the same page.
Aggressively laddish.
It was obvious to me and of course I have some background this that the New York Times
was salivating.
Oh yeah.
To get her to say something that would be damaging to Bostell's and she didn't.
Absolutely.
Stay worried.
Absolutely.
All right.
So.
I think you'd both find it very interesting.
I'm going to read it.
I had one last question for you.
By the way, this is by far the best tech like technology.
You were on the zoom right away.
I just want to give you a compliment.
I know.
It's.
Can I tell you something?
Yeah.
The best that we were on were no longer there for obvious reasons.
And I never understood why Marty Mush had the best team setting it up.
You know who he is.
Marty Mush.
I'm not familiar.
No.
Never heard of him.
Never heard the name.
But he had a show.
We won.
He had a show that we were on for a very short space of time.
Oh yeah.
The cousins.
No.
No.
He's talking about what's the line.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he had the team behind him on the technical side.
They were excellent.
Well, there you go.
That's that's huge.
Yeah.
We're all gone.
They're all gone.
They're in ostracized heaven or whatever they are.
But because of Murray and I, we were on there for approximately two shows.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you just hopper.
Hopefully we don't get canceled after this.
Yeah.
Well, hopefully, hopefully I won't even comment.
All right.
So neither one of you will put yourself in that position.
No.
No.
All right.
So my last question, Roback question.
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polos, everything great, great stuff, Roback.
I actually get the random tweet, like probably once every few or four or five months out
of nowhere.
So we'll be like, whatever happened to Mr. Portnoy's mail is that has there ever been
a resolution or is it still getting burnt?
I don't want to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I got some of that Roback product.
I won't tell you how I got it, but I got it.
I'm going to fall in the back of a truck.
It's good.
I'm just leaving it.
I don't want to disclose my source of supply.
I'm going to guess your son might have sent you a shirt.
I don't deal with my son for things like that.
I got a better connection.
He's got another connect.
I got a better connection.
Gas.
I just leave it at that.
Yeah.
What was your question?
I forgot.
The mail.
Has the mail been burnt?
The mail.
Yeah.
That's the good news.
The mail has not been burnt.
But the bad news is, because I closed that mailbox, I didn't need it.
So whoever has that mailbox, I don't go there anymore.
I don't have the box anymore.
Got it.
So that solved the problem.
Yeah.
If you want to tell, if the way to solve a problem is to kill it, I guess.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
It's like, again, an animal that barked.
Well, I took care of it.
I killed the dog.
Perfect analogy.
I don't think that's the way to handle things generally, do you?
No.
It would be funny if we could track down who has that PO box right now, and if they were
still getting burnt mail.
So it wasn't you.
Something I have an answer to that, I think, because the box was so difficult for somebody
to get to.
It was the last box on the floor.
So here I am at the time, I started, it was probably 73, now I'm 75, and I can't even get
to the freaking box because the box was aligned to the floor.
So I had to bend down on my knees to get to the combination.
I would venture a bet no one has taken that box because it's so hard to get to, and they
have a lot of empty boxes, which is not a shock.
No, that's not a shock.
Especially if they're giving people burned mail.
Yeah.
I would imagine that.
Yeah.
They probably still burn it.
Yeah.
Just a light burn.
All right.
Do you want to end with the three words?
Okay.
I'm going to try.
I'm sticking my neck out.
Okay.
I'm going to start with Uber.
Yes.
Nailed it.
Uber.
Patriots Chowder.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I want to tell you, next time we do this, give me a heads up.
Okay.
I haven't done that in so long.
I don't think, you know, I'm going to, this is an honest question.
I want to answer to this question.
You think I should have known those?
No, I think Chowder's great.
You're good.
You're good.
It's totally normal.
I remember a couple of years ago when we first asked you those questions, you were very
stressed out about your mental state.
You were dealing with a lot of anxiety and you still were able to retain those words
over the next couple of years, but we haven't asked you in a long, long time.
So to get two out of three, I think it's good.
You should not be having that same anxiety.
I think that your brain is doing wonderful.
Yes.
And you know, you don't realize that, that does bother me.
Yeah, but you, you are doing way better than the last time.
I was, I know you had like a fall or something to some of your head.
You're doing way better.
Just the fact that when I said three words, you were like, all right, Uber, Patriots,
like that right there.
Test over.
You've been holding those around.
You've been walking around with those three words, just bouncing around.
Even if you just have me on for 13 seconds to give you the words, I wouldn't mind that.
Okay.
All right.
We'll start calling you.
I'll call you random phone calls.
In the bill, one of your shows just say, we're going to have a break now.
We're going to call a cousin Mike to keep you on for 10 seconds.
I will do that.
I wouldn't mind.
I will do that.
That will be a test in the next month.
I'm telling you that right now.
I wouldn't mind that.
Okay.
Perfect.
All right.
Well, it's always great to talk to you.
Always great to catch up.
I love you guys.
We love you.
We won't have a be this long in between the next time.
So just for the words, that's okay.
Yes.
All right.
Thanks, Mr. Portnoy.
All right.
Take care.
Bye.
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Okay, let's wrap up.
We've got an all-time story that is going around NBA Twitter and online.
Hank, I asked Hank to dig into it to explain it to us and then Billy is a backup in case
he gets lost.
Hank, the floor is yours.
Alright, so I'll try and set it up a little bit first.
Dell and Sonya got divorced a little while ago.
Curries.
These are the curries.
This is the curries.
Stefan and Seth's parents.
Right.
Who everyone, you know, they were, for the Warriors stretch of championships, they were
front and center for all of them.
According to Robert Liddle, Black Sports Online, allegedly…
One of my favorite journalists.
Correct.
That's not even, there's no sarcasm in that.
Allegedly, Dell was suspicious this was happening and like hired a private investigator.
And basically found out that she was cheating on him with this guy named Stephen Johnson,
who was one of Dell's friends from Virginia Tech.
Like they both went to Virginia Tech at the same time.
He was a family friend.
I guess there's like, he would go with them to Seth's game at Duke.
Okay.
So that was what, according to Robert Liddle, like, inspired the divorce.
Sonya says that they had already been like split up and it only started after.
So it's a little bit of a he said she said.
It was like this happened right when they were spending a lot of time around Coach K.
Ooh, bad influence.
But then on Friday at the Celtics game, Dell was there with Stephen Johnson's ex-wife.
And he's dating her.
He's dating her.
He brought her to the game.
So clearly he was like, that was just purely out of spite by Dell.
Like just straight up, just an absolute spite move.
That's great.
It's a swinger situation, but I feel like it's more like a revenge and just, even if
they were dating to bring her to the game to be seen publicly, you know, wait a second.
You know what you were doing.
You were trying to be messy.
You were trying to be toxic.
Hopefully it's a big distraction for Steph.
I can't imagine trying to play in NBA finals and dealing with that kind of kind of press.
But it's, it's, it's a wild, wild story because it, at first people share the screenshots
and said, no, like it looks like, as a joke basically, like it looks like they switched,
you know, partners.
No, it's like how you defend against Steph Curry.
And then hours later it came out like, no, like they actually did.
They switched on the pick and roll instead of coming under.
Right.
Billy.
Billy.
My take, it's just a Swapsis.
Swapsis.
Oh, temporary Swapsis?
What's the difference between a Swapsis and a Swingsis?
Why would you do a Swapsis though, and get a divorce?
Yeah.
Well, it's a Swapsis.
That seems like a permanent Swapsis.
Well, that's the difference between a Swingsis and a Swapsis.
A Swingsis is staying married to Swapsis is Swingsis is we had an understanding Swapsis
is what the fuck.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is, I'm looking it up right now.
There's, he was a Patriots tight end.
He started three games for the Patriots, his work a year, recorded one catch for five yards
and then got a knee injury.
So is this guy a Boston sports icon that's trying to bring down the Warriors?
Very classy of him.
Side job.
Interesting.
This is similar.
This is a story, I just looked it up, 1970 Yankees, Fritz Peterson and Mike Keckich.
Swapped wives for an entire season and then made it official.
You've heard of this building?
Yeah.
They went on vacation together.
They swapped wives.
They didn't realize.
I didn't know the names.
It was a very famous story though.
Hold on.
I'm going to.
It was.
That's the 70s though.
They went on vacation together and they're like, oh, we actually like each other better
than the OG.
Like taking a season off, taking a gap year in America.
So it was both, both men and their families live close to each other in New Jersey and
frequently gotten their families together since the 1969 season when catch Keckich had
joined the team.
It just happened.
It wasn't planned, said Peterson, although the announcement was made in March of 73.
The conversation started a party.
Morialin was throwing in summer of 72.
At some point during the summer, the arrangement was called off for a week.
Both pitchers returned to their wives and settled back into their lives, but Peterson
just wasn't happy.
I told Marilyn, I just have Suzanne and Marilyn.
I have to have Suzanne and Marilyn said she was in love with Mike and then they swapped.
That's interesting.
I got to think like if you end up, if Del Curry ends up marrying this lady and Sonya ends
up marrying this guy, you got to go on vacations as families again, right?
Yeah.
You got to run it back.
Sounds like you guys had a fun time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Michael has a double couple.
There is an element though that they might just be family friends and we're just near
each other when the pictures were taken and they're not actually together.
That's the rational thing I saw online.
I don't like this, Billy, where you're trying to like talk us out of conspiracy theories.
Yeah.
No, don't do that.
Just egg us on, please, Billy.
By the way, I'm reading the rest of this.
So as always with this, and this is probably going to happen exactly in this one too,
Jake and Marilyn broke up and then Fritz and Suzanne ended up, they're still together
to this day.
Oh, that's nice.
So that will be like, I would imagine Sonya and her man are probably going to stay together
and then Del's going to be like, okay, Del's going to play the field a little bit.
Yeah.
This was, you know, this Swapsis was good for a minute and I don't, I maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it goes the other way.
But remember when I, what does it say about, about Steph's legacy though, that his parents
are, his legacy is on the line.
So imagine though, his parents don't have a run either.
But yeah, imagine if he does, if he does all this and beats the Celtics by himself while
his parents are doing the Swapsis, holy shit.
Remember when Dell showed up to the game with like four women?
Yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah.
The old TK.
The old TK.
I got to be honest with you guys.
I'm having a little bit of a cell phone, cell phone moment here when we keep saying Adele,
when you said like, and then, and then Dell and then Adele and I just keep thinking of
Adele the singer.
Dell and Adele.
Yeah.
They could hook up.
Yeah.
What?
Rich Paul.
Rich Paul and Adele.
So they're looking up now.
Maybe he's connected somehow.
This goes deep.
Yeah.
So Dell Curry and Rich Paul.
What about Elena Deladon?
Is she involved?
Deladova.
Nice.
Matthew Deli.
Deli.
Deli might be involved.
Just a step stopper.
That's true.
That's true.
That's true.
Deli shut him down.
Yeah.
For like half of one game.
Yeah.
And then he needed.
Nobody needed to go to the hospital because his body was in shock.
Yeah.
Because he had to get IVs.
Deli's NBA career is very strikingly similar to Dan Dockich's NCAA career.
Yeah.
He had one, he had one half of great defense and then he had to sit in an ice bath for
four weeks.
It was a hell of a half of defense.
It was a hell of a half of defense.
And then Deli, Deli got like 30 million from the box.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
That was awesome.
Okay.
Good show everyone.
Numbers.
Anything else?
New Delhi.
New Delhi, India.
Yep.
There it is.
Another one.
I just want to name Del things.
Different Del.
Del the computer.
Yeah.
Dude, you're getting a Del.
You probably don't even know that commercial.
18.
Yeah.
That was kind of you, Billy.
That actually was like played by a former Billy football.
Dude, you're getting a Del.
Give me a 92.
69.
26.
Six.
25.
It's on.
Del.
I want it.
You got it.
Del aware.
Del aware.
Yep.
We are Delaware on this podcast.
A Deli.
Deli sandwich.
36.
Oh, it's double what Hank picked.
Damn.
Tough.
Love you guys.
Common snapping turtles are nesting right now, so be careful on the roads because they
tend to cross a lot of roads.
You're just treating your tweets.
Yeah.
Everyone keeps tweeting photos of common snapper snapping turtles laying eggs at me.
It's sick because it's like, wow.
Like this is actually happening all around the country.
I saw that snapping turtle on the golf course the other day.
It freaked me out.
Dude, they're dinosaurs.
It moves like a dinosaur.
Yeah.
They're gigantic.
Don't put your finger in front of it.
I'll take it off.
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