Pardon My Take - PK Subban, Jerry O'Connell, Wolves And Pacers Win Road Game 7's + Xander Gets His First Major After Scottie Scheffler Got Arrested

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

Incredible sports weekend and it ended with the Wolves taking down the Nuggets in Game 7 in Denver (00:00:00-00:09:24). The Pacers walked into the Mecca and silenced the Knicks and the Mavs close out the Thunder (00:09:24-00:29:04). Xander wins the PGA Championship after Scottie Scheffler stole all the headlines after his arrest Friday morning (00:29:04- 00:47:17). Who's back of the week including Nascar fights, hiring a new intern and Tyson Fury loses to Usyk (00:47:17-01:03:22). PK Subban joins the show to talk about Stanley Cup Playoffs, we drag him into the deep end with a Connor McDavid debate, who's going to win the Cup and a great speech about keeping physical plays in the gray area in the game (01:03:22-01:54:42). Jerry O'Connell joins the show to retire the incredible Bing Bong man (01:54:42-02:08:36). And we finish the show with a monday reading and PFT bought Max a deli slicer (02:08:36-02:18:42).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, May 20th, and the Minnesota Timberwolves shock the world and take down the defending champion Nuggets with an incredible Game 7 performance. Holy shit, PFT. Oh, I should have said also, congratulations to Hank. Boston Celtics for NBA champs. Yeah, because the Nuggets are out.

The only real competition that they had. So congratulations, Hank. That's very big for you Congrats Hank. You're not worried about the Pacers at all right? No. Yeah Yeah, I don't think so and you're not worried about the Mavericks not worried about the Wolves. No I'll be watching the Mavs Wolves with some intensity. So watching these games I've started to come around maybe just cuz I'm hanging out with Hank too much But I I see his point when he says you guys just hate me for existing and it's true. We do

hate you for existing. But your entire existence is very infuriating. You understand that? That's true. That's also true. I just I just exist and people choose to be infuriated. I can't I can only control myself. You just exist and throw looks. Yeah, again, it's like I have to look. Like I have to look places. And then if you get mad at me for not talking, then when I talk it just enrages you. But holy shit, the Timberwolves, down 15 and a half, they played like dog crap in the first half. And then the second half, it was like the Nuggets forgot, the Monstars talked about

halftime I guess. I want to know what that halftime speech was like. What adjustments they made on both sides because the nuggets went from looking unstoppable and the Wolves looking like trash to the complete opposite. Second half a total 180. Nothing was falling for the Nuggets. Defensively the Wolves were just swarming them. Yeah and they also, Jokic taking, what did he end up taking? 10 threes?

Yeah he just kept shooting because he was like, they have to start falling. They can't, that can't be in the game plan. The wolves, I like, in terms of impressive series wins, the way this one went down, because obviously they would go up 2-0 and everyone crowns them and then the Nuggets remind everyone that they're the Nuggets and they go back 3-2 and you thought like, okay that's it. Like it's series over. The wolves are dead. Friday night. They absolutely kill the nuggets. And then even tonight when they're down 20 points early in the game and you're like, there's no chance this team is just not ready yet. And they just kept fighting. Just like Anthony Edwards didn't have his best game, kept fighting. Nas read was just that that stretch he had where he

was like a couple free throws block, assist dunk. Like he just just absolute electricity put into the to the Timberwolves team and they take down the champs. Be real careful out there. If you're typing Nas read with your auto correct or guy Marquis Noel from Kansas State, he had he felt victim to this like 10 minutes ago he just said like Nazi played a great game. Oh no. He said GGs. Nazi GGs buddy. But it was it was a full team effort from from the wolves because if you told me going into game seven that Anthony Edwards would have the Kobe six for 24 which is that was that his famous stat line from the game seven they won. I'm pretty sure the Kobe 6 for 24, which is that was that his famous?

Stat line from the game 7 they won. I'm pretty sure it was 6 for 24 from the field I'd be like no chance the Wolves win this game. Well, here's a fun stat about Anthony Edwards So when he's held below five points in the first half of the game The Timberwolves are 7 and 1 this season damn pretty crazy. That's the formula So you just got to not score just have him not score at all in the first half and then you're good. But like even Carl Anthony Towns is goofy ass that that one that one moment where he couldn't inbound the ball and he just started he looked like he was going to like run up to the ref and be like stop the game fully not even just call a timeout. He didn't call a timeout. Anthony Edwards will do something every game that makes you scratch your head. Carl Anthony Towns. Yeah Carl Anthony Towns will do something in every game that makes you scratch your head and call Anthony town Yeah, Carl Anthony towns will do something in every game that makes you scratch your head and say like how how is this guy?

Still having a job in the NBA and then he'll do something every game where you're like Oh, this guy's one of the best basketball players on the planet. Yeah, but he was yeah I mean he was getting tough rebounds. He was you know, he scored like the I'm just I couldn't be more impressed with the wolves This series was just it was the anti Minnesota series because Minnesota sports fans have been through hell and back and up to Oh, they were, they were starting to be like, maybe this is different. And then down three to they're like, Nope, same old Minnesota timber wolves, same old Minnesota sports. And then in this game specifically being like a no show in game seven, can't believe we got our hopes up. Boom, you look up and they win the game somewhat convincingly because they were up

10 with like three minutes left and it went over in the nuggets building they win three games in Denver. Well I mean what what a what a performance they're they're for real pretty good they're for real Hank I am not. I'm not saying they're not. I loved after the game, the second to whistle blue. First shot, not the real team owner, not the coach dealing with the Torrent Patella, not a crying fan in the stands that made the long trip from Minnesota. A-Rod. A-Rod.

A-Rod. First person. Boss man. When I think Timberwolves, I think Alex Rudd. Winning. Winning culture. But yeah, shout out Minnesota fans. This has to feel like it has to feel almost bizarre and like it when's the joke going to happen. Yeah,

because you have the young star and it felt like this series slipped away and it didn't. And now you're onto the Western Conference Finals for the first time, I believe since like 2004 when they had Kevin Garnett and their last time that they were in the, their only other time in the Western Conference Finals. It's awesome. You know, shout out Minnesota sports fans. It's been a long time to have a team that you're like that it's again, it's the opposite of Minnesota, Minnesota sports where every other team they've had, it's always been like, ah, they'll end up losing. This team is just a bunch of dogs. You're like, no, maybe they won't.

Yeah, and they're fun. They are the game that you look forward to watching. Yeah. I'm bummed that the series is over, actually, even though we didn't have a whole lot of really close games. No, we didn't. I was just looking forward to these games, because you didn't know who was going to win.

Friday night was, like, that was the biggest joke of a game ever. They all have kind of been jokes. Yeah. I guess it's the most lopsided seven game series where both teams were lopsided also the nuggets wolves Jersey mismatched tonight was probably the most profound there's ever been because I don't know what the fuck burn that nuggets Jersey never wear it again. Is it there is the zip code? I don't know. It's like it's the God that's even worse. I'd rather have the purple row. Yeah, I'd rather have the zip code

They put it on their court Obviously, but like that put it on the jerseys and having the really dark blue ones You gotta have something more intimidating and then you let that's not a game seven uniform That's a game two uniform and then you let the wolves walk in with their awesome clean throwbacks. Yep, and they just That was over right then, even though it wasn't even the first half was just old nuggets. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, Hank, you gotta be feeling it. I'm excited. I'm excited for the next few weeks. Yeah. Well, so who you got facing is, uh, the Indiana Pacers. Uh, I want to start this cause

I want to start it by saying, talking about the Pacers because that ESPN broadcast Oh was something else. I've I Didn't even know that they were like if you're if you tuned into that game you would not have known who the Knicks were playing today because they Even at the end of the game like Doris Burke sounded like she was gonna cry having to be like the Pacers are about to win This game Mike Breen I get cuz he's the Knicks Regular play-by-play guy and he's a Knicks fan, but the beginning of the game started with Tyrese Halberton Jalen Brunson walking through the tunnel and then

Stephen a Smith also walking through the tunnel like he was a player it before tip-off They did they kicked it to Stephen A Smith, who gave a Knicks pump up speech with Spike Lee. You would never have guessed the Indiana Pacers were playing in this game. And then at halftime, the Pacers are winning. They're playing a great game. And then at halftime, they just talk about what a tough guy OG

and Anobias, which credit to him for playing. But then Bob Myers just lectures America on, on what an outstanding feat of strength this guy's pulling off tonight. I, I wrote down the quote because Malika Andrews asked Bob Myers at halftime, what stood out to you for the Pacers? And he wrote, he said back, well, starting with OG couldn't go and then went on to talk about OGs. Like, no, no, no. The question was about the Pacers. So the Pacers deserve the credit here. They went into the Mecca in a game seven and dropped 130 just did not miss 67% from the field. They like this team, the other defense and

great but their offensive, like when it clicks, they have so many dudes who can score and like TJ McConnell again, every time it comes off the bench, like holy shit, Tyrese Haliburton was awesome. It was just, they took it right to the Knicks, completely took the crowd out of the game and their teams down 0-2 in a series have, I think, won the series 7% of the time and home teams in a game seven win 75% of the time. The Pacers just bucked both those trends. And it was the best shooting performance

in a game seven on the road in NBA history. It's incredible. Were they shooting 67%? 67%. 67% from the field is insane. Yeah, all 16 of the ESPN analysts before the series picked the Knicks. The Pacers used that on their Twitter after.

And so the Pacers deserve all the credit. They deserve the shine that ESPN just did not give them whatsoever. I think Rick Carlyle is right. Yeah. For the small market. Well, actually in New York, it's not called a small market. It's called a bodega. Yeah, that's true. Get that straight. With a cat. Yeah. Cat sitting in like a box of old Twix. Yeah. Usually there's a Ritz container, like a box of Ritz crackers that was from the 1980s Yeah If you the the beauty of a bodega is if you go like past the first two or three things that are on the shelf

You can see one that's like oh shit. Was this a war ration? Yeah, Vienna sausages. Yeah Yeah, they got everything you need though, but but the Pacers like full team performance. Everyone was everyone scored They had all five starters were in double digits in actually the lowest starter was miles turn at 17. So and then TJ McConnell put in 12 from the bench and yeah, I know that you shouldn't be worried about the Pacers Hank, but the Pacers do have an offense that like when they get hot and they run they play a weird style basketball that could sneak up on you not worried they could they could maybe sneak in a game okay yeah I mean I agree with you the songs from win this series

but I'm just saying I'm giving some shine to the Pacers how do we feel about Tyrese Halliburton being it seems like he's embracing the role of a villain but to me the best villains aren't the ones that have to be like, you know What I'm gonna embrace the role of villain a real villain just doesn't give a fuck and they're a villain Yeah I didn't like that he did the too small to deuce McBride on Friday night behind his back and then pretended to pick his nose Because he you got to do the too small with full force. Well, the too small is a hate crime Yeah, it's people of my stature, but I have no I have no problem with him wearing the Reggie Miller choking shirt after the game.

Yeah. That's good. Like the Knicks were talking all the shit as he saw in the media. Everyone was picking against you guys. Nobody was really respecting the Pacers. So yeah, talk all the shit once it's over. But a guy like that, when he loses, he doesn't have that same, I don't know. Do you know what I'm trying to say about like people who anoint themselves as a villain? Yeah. Versus people who are just naturally- Oh, I think he's kind of hated you think Yeah, I think he's hated in the fact that When he's good, he's great. And then there's some moments where it's like, what is he doing out there?

Yeah, just running in circles, but you got to give Tyrese Halliburton credit It's his first playoffs and he's made it to a conference finals Joe he's never done that that's pretty good. It's very good people are obsessed with it. Joel Embiid has never done that. That's pretty good. It's very good. People are obsessed with it with Joel Embiid. You're obsessed with Joel Embiid. Well, I mean, yeah, I'm the one who brought this up. Tyrese Halberton has made the conference final before Joel Embiid. This is his first playoffs. Don't care. Cat too. Cat. Oh yeah. Well, it's not his first playoffs. No I know but. But he's made it, he has made it to conference finals before Joel Embiid.

So who do you guys think is the better? Same with Anthony Edwards. So who's the better big man? Rudy Gobert or Joel Embiid? Be honest. If I'm being honest, it's true. One's made it to conference finals. By a ton.

By a ton. But yeah, the Pacers. So the Knicks went out so sad. Well, they died as they lived with another heartbreaking injury. Yeah. Jalen Brunson broke his hand. I heard that Tom Thibodeau actually sat on it at halftime. We've got to figure out a way to blame him.

This one as well. Here's the thing. Two things can be true at the same time. The Knicks had incredibly bad injury luck in these playoffs. And you can be excited if you're a Knicks fan about the future because Jalen Brunson is an up and coming superstar. I said it up and coming, not there yet, but a superstar in the making. Knicks fans also should understand that they have to get laughed at because all they do is talk shit. And they had the we want Boston chance and the bing bongs and the after

every game, the interviews. And then you just lost game seven at the Mecca to the Indiana Pacers. Yeah. And Spike Lee pretty much crying in the front row afterwards. That was tough to watch. Like I think I, I don't know. I mean maybe I'm maybe maybe most next fans aren't memes. What you're a Knicks fan memes by the way is going through the playoffs of hell because he's an Islanders and Knicks fan and hates the Rangers who are maybe going to win the Stanley Cup. We'll talk to PK Sue man about that. But what do you think memes you think it's fair or do you think Nick's fans are in their feels about people talking shit back to them? Because I saw a lot of that being like, Oh, we're so injured. We're so injured. You guys talk a lot of shit for

not being in a conference final since 2000. Yeah. I think everybody's just in their feelings right now. Yeah. Fair. Which is fair. That's how sports were. I think, I think both sides are overreacting with Nick's fans are like, or Pacers fans are saying, well, Knicks fans keep using the injury card on everything. And then Knicks fans get pissed off at that. And I think the truth is in the middle where it's like your team was, your team had devastating injuries. Yeah, no, you were all hurt. Yeah. It's a valid excuse, but it's still definitely an excuse. Right. And it's also you talk a lot of shit along the way, you got to expect it to come back at you when you

end up losing especially game seven at the Mecca. Yep. And that was I mean that crowd like they the Pacers just took it right to them. Hank are you sad you don't get to play the Knicks? It doesn't really matter. I would have liked to I would have liked to shut the Knicks fans up and just sweep them real quick but they would have just you know played the injury card anyway. So this will get the in season tournament revenge game. Yeah. Yeah.

But Knicks fans, do you think they're going to be rooting against the Celtics? Are they going to be able to bring themselves to root for the Pacers? I don't think they're there. They don't have that hate in their head? They don't really care. I mean the Pacers and Knicks have more of a rivalry. They do. The Pacers and Knicks have more of a rivalry than the Celtics in the Knicks

That's true, but I feel like people from New York just don't want to see people from Boston succeed. It's true Here's a weird stat now the Pacers have been to the Eastern Conference Finals a bunch of times You know, they went to the NBA Finals in whatever it was 2000 but 1994 they went to the Eastern Conference Finals 2004. they went to the Eastern Conference Finals, 2004 they went to the Eastern Conference Finals, 2014 they went to the Eastern Conference Finals, 2024 Eastern Conference Finals. Forrest.

So let's put in a reminder for 2034. Make sure that's in there. Sounds good. There have been other times though, but still, that's kind of cool. I'm going to bet so many shitcoins on that game. Yeah. I'm going to be so rich from Doge. I'm happy for the Pacers. I mean, they got a young fun team. But Tyrese Halberton what? Me too. I'm happy for him. Tyrese Halberton, Tyrese Halberton, Jason Tatum, Luca or Anthony Edwards. One of those four is going to win

their first ring. That's pretty cool. Very cool. I gots a passing of the torch of the NBA. I'm not saying those are all in the same level. Which player do you think is the best out of that group before you just named? I would still say Luka. I would like Hank to answer that question. I would like Hank to answer that question too. I would, I'd say Tatum. Is better than Luka?

More experience. Okay, how? He's played longer. Nothing but success? Nothing but success. I mean they've- More playoff games. I mean Luka played overseas and then played here.

I mean, it's close. It's close. It's a one A one B situation. Luca's very good. But so if you sell, call from the Dallas Matt Mark Cuban, who still somehow owns them tomorrow and said, Hey, we want to trade Jason Tatum for Luca straight up. Do the Celtics hang up that phone call? I Don't know what they would do. I

I'm not sure okay, I would pick up that call. I would pick out take that call I would either to entertain the call. Yeah, you would answer it. Okay, we should talk about the Mavs That was an awesome awesome game six The shot making at the end of the game was just like Just such high level back and forth. And also the Thunder, I feel like the Thunder blew, I don't know, like four or five different 15 point leads during that game. They just kept on getting these huge leads and the Mavs kept coming back.

And the Mavs, Kyrie Irving, fun fact, is 14 and 0 in closeout games, which is a weird way to say it because he's lost elimination games, but not game sevens No, he has lost no. No, it's it's with an old song win three. Yes. Yes. Yeah closeout games. Okay, it's not lost So that's cool. I guess yeah, listen the Mavericks are good I know that there's some rivalry baked in between the Mavericks and the Celtics Kyrie did step all over lucky the leprechaun Yeah, it's gonna be a big-time lucky revenge series if you're lucky enough to make it through the Pacers Hank I would be I would be worried about whoever came out of the West to be honest. Yeah Yeah, it'll be a fair it'll be a fair fair fight this game was awesome though Derek Lively was incredible and Derek Lively, fun fact, goes back to last

year when the Mavs got fined $750,000 for tanking the final two games. Now teams tank all the time. They got fined specifically because they were like, Hey, we're tanking. And they said it out loud, but they tank for a specific reason because if they had stayed at the 11th spot in the standings, they would have had an 8.5% chance of keeping their pick. Because it was a trade that they would have had to lose their pick. They tanked, they ended up having a 79.8% chance of keeping their pick. They get the 10th pick. They trade the 10th pick with the Thunder at 12 and they take Derek Lively. So they traded Derek Lively. The Thunder technically took Derek Lively at 12. They get Derek Lively. Derek Lively was the difference in that game. He had 15 rebounds. Yeah, his rebounding is everywhere.

And his defense is awesome too. He's a good role player on the Mavericks. They've got a couple of those guys. PJ Washington, I think it's disrespectful to call him a role player at this point. He's, I mean he got a little bit cooler the last two games, but he still hit the big shots when he needed to. Because he was, there was a couple games where he was scoring like 25 points hitting every three. Yeah. I just wanted to remind people, because I remember specifically last year, people were very upset at the Mavericks because I think they started tanking when they technically were still Alive for the play-in. Yeah, they didn't want that

I'm a big proponent for a team to do that because the play-in is a joke as someone who gets hurt by the play-in every Single year they created the play-in to give the illusion of playoffs to all these teams the Mavericks made the right decision They got a good big young guy who can help Luka in his prime win a title this year instead of trying to make and probably failing to get in the play-in, and then if they're in the play-in, probably failing to get in the playoffs, and even if they're in the playoffs, losing to the Nuggets.

And then, yeah, then trying to sign like a free agent, or trying to lure another guy in there to make a Super team right get a good role player So taking work sometimes was that was the heat with a heat in the play were in the playing game But what seed would they have been last year? What do you mean? So there were the eight seed last year, right? Yeah They were in the play. Yeah, they lost the first one and they okay they beat the bowl I would have been a seven if there was no play they would have been the seven

So they are alumni of the playing tournament But they did not benefit from the expanded playing field correct. Yeah, correct They didn't they didn't end up like oh a team all the way from the playing Yeah, this is it was a weird ending of this game to where they had the free throws at the end Yeah And so he makes two of them misses the third one intentionally with two and a half seconds left Chet looked like he was in disbelief after the game was over.

He could not believe that they lost that game. It was close. Well, Chet, I like Chet. The Thunder have a very promising future, which is also a scary thing to say to the Thunder fans because they had a promising future before they traded James Harden. Chet, you need someone else out there to help with Chet,

because he is not like what he had. He had like three rebounds. He's not a traditional big. I actually think, you want to hear this one? I think the Thunder should draft Zach Eady. Interesting. Twin towers. Enter a careful grant.

A little this, little that. Yeah. You know? You got the nimbly, little, little this, little that. Yeah. You know, you got the, the nimbly three point shooting skinny center. And then you got a little bit more of a traditional center in Zach Eadie. DJ Burns. I like, yeah, why not? Get, get a big boy in there. Get a college all-star team. I like it. I don't hate that idea. So you're off the Kevin Durant to the thunder train. No, I'm still on that him and him and and Chet's index

Which other would look very very funny. I'm still on that I actually think that the I think Kevin Durant wants that I don't know if the Thunder won I if I'm a Thunder fan, I don't know if I'd want that either. Yeah, but the Thunder have a bright future I'm I am I don't know why everyone has written off the Mavs It feels like everyone just assumes whoever wins the wolves nuggets was gonna beat the Mavs. It feels like everyone just assumes whoever wins the Wolves Nuggets was going to beat the Mavs quickly. I think the Mavs are going to give, again, when you have the best player, and Anthony Edwards is very, very good. I still think Luca as of right now is better. And if you have the best player in a series, you have a puncher's chance every single time, every single time. They're not out of it. No, I just, I think

it's going to be a good series. Iazz put the Mazz played really good defense against Thunder They have some really good co-role players if you get them to a closeout game Kyrie Irving literally does not lose those It's true again. I I feel like you know I feel like touting the closeout game stat is weird when you've when you like got injured and your team lost When was the last you lost in five to the Warriors? Because they technically didn't have a close out game. Also, some of those close out games are on the bronze stat sheet too.

Correct. So when was the last time that Kyrie Irving made it this far? It had to be when he was with the Cavs. Well, they won, they beat the year that he got hurt. They won the first round match and then they he got hurt Before the series against the Bucks in the second round that they took a box to seven And Kevin Durant stepped on the line, you know for the three-pointer. Yeah, but yeah the closeout game status

Sounds awesome, but then you're like wait, but you've lost series before I don't think he's been to the though It's a Western Conference finals the last time. No, it's far in the playoffs I think was probably like 2018 2017 a Long time ago. Where is it? What was the farthest? He made it with the Celtics. No, he got hurt. It hurt Yeah, he got hurt and he was out. So yeah, it's been a long time Probably, but he's 14 know in closeout games pft. You want to let everyone know that yeah 14 That's the important stat 14, you know closeout games doesn'tFT. You want to let everyone know that. Yeah, 14, that's the important stat. 14-0 in closeout games. Doesn't count the losing in five to the Warriors. That doesn't count because you never have a chance at a closeout game.

Yep. You just get them to a closeout game and he'll win that shit. So you guys all have the Wolves in how many? I got Wolves in seven. Oh, okay. So I can deal with that. I would have had the Lakers in five if they had made it this far. Yeah Lakers probably would have beaten. I mean the Lakers would have beaten than this these nuggets Yep, these nuggets are not those game seven nuggets. Yes every shot. Yep. Well game seven second half nuggets. Yeah

Yeah, Lakers smoking by the way Going back to the Knicks real quick real leader move, which I love from Jalen Brunson Someone asked him was like, given everything this season, you know, the growth you guys have had, how far you made it was as a success. He said, no, love that. Okay. That's good. I love that answer. I like that shit. Um, all maps and seven, maps and seven. I'm starting to believe in the maps. I don't know. It's just, and, and that game six, as good as the end of the game was if you're an NBA Hater the first half you would have had a lot of material because Luca has never been more annoying

To the refs than he was on Saturday night. I don't know if you saw he was gonna get kicked out of the game I don't know if you saw the the foul. I think it was the foul against PJ Washington Luca called the foul Before PJ even hit the ground. Yeah. He had that call before the ref did. He was turning his head on slow-mo. It was, it was lightning fast reflexes to call foul for a ref. Also, I can't believe we didn't open up the show with this bad job on our part. This is very important. Speaking of, uh, of the Knicks this day, 35 years ago,

Jordan scores 40 at Chicago Stadium in game six of Eastern Conference semis to beat the Knicks. In my check collection is the phone bill he paid that day. Oh, Darren Revelle. That's huge. That's awesome. That's huge. It's literally a bill.

Yeah. He paid his phone bill. But he has it. He has it that same day. Yeah. He's quite a weirdo Yeah, weirdest of the weirds alright, so Hank give us a Celtics Pacers series prediction as well Celtics in Five five okay, so it would easily cash my under four and a half losses That I said before yeah, I can see maybe going

six but definitely not seven. Okay, and Kristaps gonna be back. Yeah. Well, which said it's it's imminent, right? His return is imminent. Yeah. That's huge. Less than several. That's what we're down to now. Yeah, I think Celtics match would actually maybe be the funnest matchup. Yeah, that would be fun because you funnest matchup. Yeah, that would be fun because you get to go to Dallas. I didn't think about that. Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. More on that later when we have Mr. Bing Bong on Jerry O'Connell. We should probably talk about the PJ Championship.

Yeah. Let's talk about what happened on Friday morning. Yeah. So we recorded part of my take, go to sleep, wake up in the morning. First thing that I saw Tweet alert Jeff Darlington reports that Scottie Scheffler has been arrested Outside of Valhalla. Mm-hmm, and I don't know about you guys, but when you saw it What was your first reaction the same as mine? Which is like this is simply not true My I read it as Scottie Scheffler killed a man same

That's how I read it there was for the first 30 seconds that I had my eyes open. Yep. I was like Scotty Scheffler ran over someone. Holy fucking shit. Did you really you thought Scotty, Scotty Scheffler just pulled a Tony Stewart? Yeah, I was like, this is crazy. I saw the mug shot and I was yeah, I was like half asleep. I was like Scotty Scheffler arrested person died from car accident. I was like, Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, cause it got lumped in. Yeah. There was a pedestrian fatality unfortunately in the morning. So I read that whole thing together and that's what I thought. I was like, Oh my God, this is crazy. It's, it's the wildest golf story maybe ever. Well, Tiger Woods happened. Yeah. I would Tiger Woods. There was a lot of wild, I mean, Tiger, you could do Tiger Woods part one, Tiger Woods part two Yeah, I would Tiger Woods was so there was a lot of wild. I mean

Tiger you could do Tiger Woods part one Tiger Woods part two. I wouldn't say it was the craziest but I think it's you know what you just did. You just did your RG three. No no no. But wait but wait. This is the craziest sports story ever. Everyone was like dude. Aaron Hernandez. It's not. But why it might be up there for craziest golf. So I'm not talking about just the getting arrested part because obviously tiger has him beaten just in terms of quantity that one. But in terms of who you would expect this from waking up to see Scottie Scheffler has been arrested the morning of a PGA championship and thrown in jail for in charge with a felony assault on a police officer. And it's Scottie Scheffler. Yeah. That's the crazy part. But

tiger woods was Scotty Scheffler. No, but he wasn't like, yeah, he was. He wasn't like Scotty. Yeah, he was Mr. Super, super squeaky. Yeah, he was. I don't, not to the same extent before tiger woods got the, the Thanksgiving with, with the car and everything. He was like the perfect guy no one knew that any of that shit was going on but Scotty is just so very much I think you're forgetting how like squeaky clean Tiger Woods was I remember I do know that he had a great image back in the day for sure I remember it I remember Tiger Woods it's been so long that we've but the other Tiger Woods that it clouds who

the original Tiger Woods was he was was like a brand... I remember like reading stories where like brands are coming themselves like this gift from the heavens of Tiger Woods, who's never done anything wrong. He was born to play golf. Yeah, but Scotty in terms of just everything that you've seen from on, if it's the full swing behind the scenes documentary, his interviews. Oh, it was shocking.

He's like a very boring, very nice guy. Yes. That's why him getting arrested was like, holy shit. It was shocking. I just remember so vividly when Tiger Woods, that whole thing happened. I was like, what? And he does what in a Perkins restaurant?

Yeah. And all the text messages coming out. Credit to Scotty's lawyer, by the way, for I don't know how this normally works for regular Americans But if you get arrested for felony assault on a police officer Do they usually let you out in two hours so you can make a tee time? So I think that police officer might have been a little embarrassed with who he arrested after the fact

I would think so I think he might have not realized he was arresting the number one golfer in the world and then after was like yeah But he dragged me on the number one golfer in the world and then after was like yeah, but he dragged me on the ground and my pants ripped because reading that Police report there's just no way that Scottie Shepard would have been let out like 30 minutes after yeah It said I think the police report the officers pants valued at eighty nine dollars were damaged beyond repair Which by the way if you read that, if you

just, oh, we'll buy those. He will buy those. I would actually buy those. But the way that it's well, you can't because they're beyond repair. Yeah, we'd, we'd, we'd find a way. Massacre those. It's it. They are. They're the most destroyed pants in America right now. And, but if you read that, that police report and just take it at, at the text value of it, he might've shit his pants. Oh, it didn't say like the pants were torn. It didn't say the pants got run over. It said the pants are damaged beyond repair. This officer might have shit his pants and destroyed his own pants. And then now Scotty Scheffler is getting arrested because he made

a police officer poop in his pants. That would be awesome if he pooped his pants after the fact. Like the whole thing goes down. Yeah. Then he arrests him and then, and then his like sergeants like, Hey, you realize you're just arrested Scotty Schaeffler and then he shits himself. Yeah. And there's a few golfers on tour right now where it's like this guy got arrested for doing that.

Then you'd be like, okay, that sounds, I guess not totally crazy. It's still crazy. Like if you told me John Daly did this, I'd be like, okay, that sounds, I guess, not totally crazy. It's still crazy. Like if you told me John Daly, yeah, did this, I'd be like, okay, yeah, fair enough. Phil. Yeah, Phil. I'd be like, yep, some something happened. But the fact says a little bit of a bad boy. I don't think he would get arrested, but it wouldn't. I wouldn't be like, what? Yeah, but it'd be cool if he did. He would be. He would be definitely a cool way to get arrested. Great mugshot from him. The fact that Scotty then shot a 66? Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty impressive and he almost eagle the first hole. I thought that. So I thought that he was going to go out there and shoot lights out in his first round because I don't know if you guys have ever been arrested, but the way it kind

of goes is none of us have. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? Oh, the dog thing. Yeah. I've been arrested three times. The same. At dogs. Spent a couple nights in a slammer. Oh, yeah. You got you for Brady for no, but like, legitimately, what happens is you get let out of jail in the morning, and then you're like, that's pretty fucking cool. Like you're kind of feeling badass. And then the next day is when all the repercussions and the thoughts about your future. Did I really screw this up? Start to sink in. So he's, he's riding off the high of all the adrenaline of breaking the law.

Cause that's a cool feeling. Yeah. And then each, and then on Saturday, how the fuck? I still don't think like that. So Scottie Shaffer got arrested on Friday morning. It was an all time internet moment. It was crazy. Goes out and shoots at 66. I know this is nuts to say, but I'm just going to say it. I still think that the

fact that his caddy skipped Saturday is a bigger story. That's so crazy to me. He sucked on Saturday. He's a system golfer. Ted Scott is the re is the system. He's the reason why Scottie so good. Yeah. And that one shot that he had that ended up behind the behind the fence. I would have loved to have my caddy there for that one. I would have loved to not be Scottie's best friend who's on his bag being like, this guy like, what the fuck do I do? I don't fucking know, dude. Yeah. Why didn't you, why didn't you just have your caddy FaceTime his son call over another rules official, please. Cause I don't know what to tell you what to do that. Like I don't want to say it cost him the tournament, but Saturday was bad for him and he shot great

again on Sunday when Ted Scott came back. What did Scotty end up shooting with Ted Scott on his back? It was probably insane. What? He was like 600 today? Yeah. I mean, I, that was a very unfortunate graduation timing. You know, it's really, they should have, sky chef has enough money.

He should have just paid for the graduation to be on Monday. That would have been a great flex. Not a bad idea. I just feel like, hey guys. What I really love about the timing of all this though is Xander Shaffley wins. Yes. But it's majorly overshadowed by Scottie Shaffler getting arrested. So now we can continue with our running theory of Xander Shaffley will never win a major.

He can't win the big one. Because we'll all forget about this one. This was a Scottie Schauffele tournament. Yeah, Scottie Schauffele shot a 67, 66, 73, and a 65. So if you just say that he shot a 67, which was his worst score with Ted Scott on Saturday, he still wouldn't have won the tournament. Okay, that makes me feel better.

Yeah, but vibes, he probably would have gone super low on Saturday. Yeah, but Xander, incredible performance by Xander, especially because he did have to earn it. The moment in the back nine when he lost the lead for a minute, I think he had a bogey, and then he had great shot after great shot and even at the end when he was playing a little safe with like three holes to go but he actually had to birdie 18 to win the tournament was awesome and Xander Schauffele he I know we'll keep going with the he can't win the big one but he was the only player in the top five world rankings without a major championship.

He had made 25 major cuts in his career. In those 25 major cuts he made, he had 13 top 10s, seven top fives, and four second or third place finishes. He was like the guy ready to do it. He had been so close so many times and playing such good golf. So I mean, and short kings. King yeah, I've said that that bunker. That's totally normal That's above as you can be anywhere from five seven to that's a by page You're not lumping five ten guys and with his short Kings

Well, I mean he's listed at five listed so he's like he's like Ronnie. He's between five seven and five eight He's like Ronnie So was it on 18 that he had to hit that shot standing in the bunker, the ball on the lip of the bunker? That was a super hard shot. And so he had to respond big time. Bryson played, Bryson got so lucky too, bouncing it off a tree, having it land in the middle of the fairway.

And I had never noticed this about Bryson before. Maybe you guys have, you know, every golfer has the yardage book that they put in their back pocket, that giant book book and so his name is Bryson DeChambeau he has two middle names one of them starts with an a so he just has the word bad Sticking out of his out of his pocket. We do two middle names. He's got two middle name. How far does that work? I don't know. I think the second the first one starts with like the letter L So he just doesn't acknowledge that one wait. Oh, that'd be funny. It was bald. It was bald. Yeah No, it's I think it's lad

I think it's BL a D but he's just walking around with bad sticking out of his ass Do we like Bryson now cuz I kind of do I was really warm. I can't be honest with you. Yeah Here's here's what happened to me I'm rooting against Xander Shafly simply for the narrative of correct and a Shafly not being able to win a major and I find myself rooting for Bryson on Sunday. On the back nine I'm invested in every single one of Bryson's shots and it was a very strange feeling for me. I did do something he uh because I said it a couple weeks ago like I watch his YouTube videos and I found myself liking him more and I think he birdied one of the first few holes and he like

walked off and looked at the camera like he was like doing a YouTube videos. Yeah he said that after so it's like so for my in a major championship dude my Bryson The the fact that I like him now I've wrestled with this because I had the same feeling PFT where I was like I think I even Tweeted I was like am I rooting for Bryson right now. I think I am Brooks squash the beef definitely helped and let's get there I do think he also has gone a little bit of the J.J. Watts story arc where if you're so beyond corny and like do everything for the camera, if you can just dial it back a little

and be a somewhat normal person, we'll immediately just be like, you rock. He's got the drive in him to produce all this content. So someone asked him about that, Hank. Someone said, you had some really big moments on the course this week worth celebrating. How have you kind of embraced being a true showman on the course and celebrating those big moments? He said, yeah, it's actually funny. YouTube has helped me understand that a little bit more. When the moment comes knowing what to do, what to say, how to act is really important. You know, when I was younger, I didn't understand what it was. Yeah, I would have a great celebration and whatnot, but I didn't know what it meant

and what I was doing it necessarily for. Now I'm doing it a lot more for the fans and for the people around and trying to be a bit of an entertainer that plays good golf every once in a while. So he did that answer. He did that for us. Yeah. He thank you. He is home all the way back around where he's like, I'm I can't just be so Like weirdly standoffish and corny. I have to be a little bit of a human being and it works for him now Like I feel like he's come into his own did you also see the clip where he threw the ball to the little kid and a

Adult grabbed it and tried to run off and he stopped This is the middle of the tournament stopped and was like get back here right now and made the guy give the ball to the little Kid yeah, Ravel did not want to give that ball away. No, it's that rocks right? I I like Bryson How I okay? I'm not ready. I'm not ready to say that that I like him just because it's a weird feeling It's like my body's confused watching him. It's like wait I always thought that I've not liked watching this kind of stuff and now it's on I'm like wait It's is my body telling me I kind of like it a little bit. Yeah, and so it's a very confusing time, but it was I'm closer to liking Bryson than I've ever been. I'm very sexual. Maybe it's Bryson is like an IPA

Are you drinking IPA when you're 22? Yeah, and you're like, yeah, this is gross Mm-hmm, and you get a little older you're like, oh, this is kind of nice different flavor. Yeah. Oh, yeah I'm not I'm not opposed to it. Yeah, I don't want I don't want more than four or five I don't think I'm gonna go up to him and thank him for all the content that he puts out and tell him that I like what you do online. I ever saw him. I definitely would just to say it's getting closer just to say that getting closer Yeah, Bryson damn. Is he the only guy who went to live and became cooler? Yeah, Bryson. Damn. Is he the only guy who went to live and became cooler? Brooks Brooks Brooks was already cool, but he's so cool. But like he didn't have there's nothing he he does makes him cool He's already the coolest

I'm saying Bryson went to live like everyone goes has gone to live and it feels like they've taken a ding in Terms of public perception Bryson somehow has beaten that yeah John Rahm is a shell of himself did he not make the cut what story with Greg Norman is he everyone loves him now oh yeah he was probably there remember his hand with he hurt his hand from shaking so many hands out of gun yeah yeah people were probably coming up to him so he's gotten more yeah his image is improved yeah blocky didn't make the cut either. Didn't finish dead last. Blocky.

Hide Tiger. Blocky being all over TV's during this tournament was so funny. That was, yeah. I kind of wish that had never happened. Nah. That hole in one, that eight was incredible. That hole in one was cool.

Yeah. Yeah, the hole in one was cool. All right, yeah, that was cool. Yeah. So Tiger. Blocky. Tiger not looking so great. That was tough. All right. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, so tiger blocky tiger not looking so great That's tough. It's tough watching them out there also For guys like us who love the course what a fucking pussy Valhalla is. Yeah got absolutely demolished

What it's from Justin Ray one of the best in the business when it comes to golf statistics. All right, just give us a stat. We're giving the attribution. Lowest combined score to par by field. PGA Championship history. 2024 Valhalla. 214 under par. The next, 1995 Riviera. 40 over par for the field.

Wow. That's crazy. Wait, what course was that? Riviera. Riviera. 40 over par? 40 over par. Yeah, it's all the scores combined.

The entire field. Respect. The best ever by the field in a PGA championship before this year was 40 over. That's insane. This is 214 under. I mean, think about it. Let's see, I'm scrolling down. The 72nd position was under par.

Braden Shattuck went minus one and he finished 72nd by himself. That's nuts. It's embarrassing. It's easy. And they're arresting the best players. Yeah, so they're arresting the best. That's the only defense they have. So it's an important question. If you're a real golf fan, you're asking yourself this this morning, should the PGA championship ever come back to Valhalla? You're rested the number one guy in the world. Your course got its pants pulled down, but it was great finish. It was great finish and they have great finishes there was a great finish and no, I got no other end. And guys had to walk miles on Friday. Yeah, I think it was Willie Z and a few others They had to get out of their car and just walk to the clubhouse who says these guys aren't athletes. Yeah

Can I also just say one thing about the golf broadcast and just watching these champ these majors which you know watching major Golf is awesome. It's the best when you have a weekend. I already know what weekend the US Open is. It's the best. When you have a weekend, I already know what weekend the US Open is. It's the best. Can they just stop trying to like, will Rory down our throats? The guy isn't like, yeah, he competed at St. Andrews. He was close there. It feels like every major we watch Rory is, you know, teeing off early on Sunday. He makes a couple of good shots. they try to show us, like, whoa, look out for Rory. Yeah.

What do you mean look out for Rory? He was 10 strokes off the lead. I think you become a lookout for this guy. It's usually early in your career, if you win a few tournaments early, then you're just going to be talked about for the rest of your life. Like if you're out there, uh-oh, Rory's lurking. He finished nine strokes off the lead and they were showing him Like down the stretch being like man if he strings together a couple birdies here

He could be in the clubhouse seven strokes off the lead Yeah, they're always gonna do that for like Rory is just every time speech to speed to leave a Rory It feels like it's just way too much and it's just come on I don't need I want to see the live shots Don't let me miss a live shot because you're trying to tell me that Rory could you know get six consecutive hole-in-ones and then still be three strokes off the lead. They're playing a lot of old clips of him winning there in what 2014 yeah so the tie-in to the course was important for them they want to highlight him as much as possible but when they showed those clips it really

hammered home he doesn't look like the same golfer that he was back then. No, no. Look out for Rory. Look out for Rory. Rory Larkin. I'm going to keep, you know what? I'm good. I don't need to look out for him anymore. I'm going to keep looking out for him. I'm going to remain vigilant. You're going to stand back and stand by? Yeah. I'm not done with him yet.

All right. Anything else before we do who's back of the week? Uh, sees the gray one, the, uh, preakness kind of a disappointment because we wanted to see a triple crown and maybe an asterix with mystic Dan. Yeah. Uh, it was, it would have been good for the sport. Yeah. It was my Randy Moss nailed his pick on Friday. Shout out Randy. He did. If you listen to Randy, he gives you the picks on Friday and they always hit. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, it was a great sports weekend all around. All right. Let's do Who's Back of the Week. Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Coors Light is the most delicious beer in the world. I could let bad sports news ruin my day or choose a chiller mindset and then reach for a Coors Light. I choose chill. When you embrace a chill mindset, it's a good time to choose chill and crack open a Coors Light. Coors

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I think everyone in the world hates cowbush and every time I don't but I'm saying like all the other NASCAR drivers do Every time cowbush gets in a fight. It takes me a second. I'm like is this Joey's Lugano? Yeah, and then I'm like no Wait, no, it's not it's Kyle Busch but Ricky Stenhouse crashed and I think the second lap So he waited around for a hundred and ninety eight laps to fight Kyle Busch after the race respect So so if you're waiting like that long you have to throw then after and then they they had a confrontation and Stenhouse was

Just having a it looked like they were having a conversation It was just like talking to each other and then at one point something snapped and in Ricky's brain He's like I fuck it I'm just gonna throw hands and it looked like he got two shots and didn't knock him down you got to knock him down Yeah, yeah, I would like to see and Kyle didn't fight back So I don't know if he knew that a punch was coming or not But he does have a punchable face Well some of the other guys like some of the other team members came in and they were they were fighting out

Yeah, the crews started that's my favorite part It's great because it does feel like NASCAR has a special level of bad blood in all these fights Because they see each other every weekend. They're wrecking every weekend. Yeah, these other guys just hopping in Grabbing them awesome fight. I would hire an MMA guy to be in my garage They're wrecking every weekend. Yeah, these other guys just hopping in, just grabbing them. Awesome fight. I would hire an MMA guy to be in my garage. Yeah. As a NASCAR driver.

Just like ready to unleash him at any second. Kyle Busch does have a punchable face. Do you guys do the same thing where you're like, is that Joey Logano? I think it's Joey Logano because I'm like, I would like to punch Joey Logano. Yeah. I think it's just every time I see someone getting in a fight, I'm like, oh, here comes Joey Logano getting punched again. Yeah. Whenever something bad happens to somebody on a fight, I'm like, Oh, here comes Joey Slogano getting punched again. Yeah.

Whenever something bad happens to somebody on the internet, my first thought is usually, I hope that happened to Joey Slogano. Yeah. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. might be just, I mean, he was born to be, that's a NASCAR name through and through. I'm sure his dad, I'm sure NASCAR people are going to be mad at me. His name's sure he's like fourth generation NASCAR. His name's probably actually just Ricky. Yeah Ricky Bobby yeah yeah Ricky but Stenhouse and a junior yeah a Ricky

or a junior yeah no you're proving my point yeah yeah I'm daddy right right right I wait hold on I'm gonna look up Ricky Stenhouse and make sure Let's see how many how many lines of Stenhouse is I don't know I'm sure there's probably many It was a good fight though. It was good. Love a good scrap from the boys. Yeah Great. My who's back the week is interns We're finally doing it. We're gonna post the the link For people to apply to be our PMT summer intern this summer. Oh boy. Looking for someone in Chicago local. Um, and there's a, just fill out the submission form. There's, there's a place to put in videos and your resume stuff like that. We'll probably do

interviews in the next couple of weeks and then start after, uh, basketball ends. Okay. What are we looking for? I don't know. That's what I'm excited to find out. Short or fat? No. Oh, you can't say that. They can be any size. Short and fat would be great.

Smaller than me or wider than the big cat? Yeah. We can't say sizes. I don't think so. Okay, strike that from the record. We would like a very Qualified. Qualified young man or woman. Okay, strike that from the record. We would like a very qualifed, qualified young man or woman or older or older. We don't have to say young. Yeah. Also, yeah, you're right old

They could be old or middle-aged. Mm-hmm Submit some content that you've done. Submit some content. Yeah, that's what we there is a video submission So it's like if you're just gonna email us with like, please hire me I would love to work there. You won't even get a second look. We're not gonna look twice then. Yeah, like if you're just gonna email us with like please hire me I would love you or be like you won't even get a second we're not gonna look twice that yeah but if you also anyone made videos to make videos or have built a following on your own like it could even be a couple thousand people that that does get you a little bit more of a look because it means that you're actually creating content you can't just be like hey I'm my friends think I'm

funny I should be on the show yeah Yeah. And also it's not going to be necessarily on the show. Right. Like it's not like, Hey, we're hiring someone to just sit on the show and hopefully you'll be our best friend, but you might not be. Yeah. Think about listening to this right now is the start of your own personal championship DVD. Yeah. From here on out, especially if you're a shorter fat person. Yeah, I can say it again. I'm not gonna say it again I'm not gonna say it again No, it's just can't be you can't be like really really good-looking That's you I we could say that like I would really really good-looking like come on dude go get another job

Yeah, I don't don't work with us. We're fucking mutants unless you have a good following and you make good content No, no we came higher someone was like super good look although what have they started dating Beyonce like a trained assassin out there just to start a famous female celebrity all right good looking guys back in your Montana boy you can apply let just say this. Jay-Z is welcome to join. Jay-Z. Are we sure? No, I'm not sure. Should I be sure about Jay-Z? Let's wait a little bit on that. Okay. Yeah, how about Diddy, huh? Not a good guy. Shocker. Diddy recap. Shocker. Yeah. Whoo. What do you say, Jake? This past weekend, it popped up on my phone was five years since my intern interview. Well, oh my son

I thought you're gonna that was gonna be a ditty comment the ditty video interns interns interns interns Anything else that's why I was back but nothing else about the interns. No, we'll post the links apply and then Try and get it done the next couple weeks. Short and fat people. Alright, PFT? Uh, my who's back in the week. Max just keeps shaking his head.

I wanna do the gym cow. Don't shake your fucking head. Why are you shaking your head, Max? Don't shake your fucking head. Not a dime back. What's your issue, Max? I have no issue. I just, I just...

No, there's legal issues with me saying that we want short and fat people. Which isn't true. Which is not true. It's something you could say, but I would never say it saying that we want short and fat people. Which isn't true. Which is not true. It's something you could say, but I would never say it. It's called satire, Max. It's big time satire. Now I've actually boxed myself out. We can't hire a short fat person.

Like I fucked myself. My- It's like- My who's back of the week is shorts. Oh. Short season. My other who's back of the week is sex story. short season my other who's back in the week is Sex story. He almost got me. Yeah, well shorts are back. Yeah, they are weather so nice. So nice wearing shorts I was waiting for big cat to just go what about fat?

Shorts and fats both back My other is back in the week is sex stories from the Olympics. That's how you know, the Olympics are about to happen Oh shit, I forgot the yeah, this is how I found out Okay, actually the New York Post put out an article about the beds that they built at the Olympics are about to happen. Oh, shit, I forgot the Olympics. Yeah, this is how I found out. Okay, actually, the New York Post put out an article about the beds that they built at the Olympics this year. They hired the same people from Tokyo 2020. When they built the sex proof beds because of COVID. And they're like, we can't have athletes fucking. So they build

these collapsible beds that are like stacked on cardboard boxes. Essentially, they can support one person's weight, as long as you're not too fat. This is you're you're right. Like this is how the Olympics just let us know they just, something about sex. Yeah, it's usually like they've airlifted in 500 tons of condoms. That's another big story. But this, this is the second time in a row we're getting the sex bed story. So they're all, they're making the athletes sleep in single beds and they're built on these like cardboard frames. So it can't really fit two people space wise and even if they try to then it would collapse. Yeah.

So I'm sure they'll figure out their way around it. They'll probably just fuck everywhere else in the room. Yeah I mean it is probably the most athletic people in the world. I don't think they need a bed to have sex. People that need a bed to have sex are people like like normal people like us. Yeah. Like if you don't have a bed like you're gonna wake up in the morning your backs gonna be thrown out right but these people can they can do it anywhere yeah I mean it's

the horniest collection of people in the world yeah because they're all in sane shape and young and they've been training for this moment the minute their moment is over they're like what are we gonna do we're gonna eat McDonald's and have sex yeah it's honestly great yeah good for them good for them all right my who's back the week I was gonna say fights in general because the NASCAR fight, but we also had a heavyweight fight on Saturday, I don't know if you guys were able to tune in but it was awesome Tyson Fury lost Yusick beat him in 12 rounds

It was an awesome fight because Tyson Fury did his classic Tyson Fury where he was out Basically cold on his feet. In the ninth, right? And then still fought the rest of the fight and was close to winning it, but the right fighter won, but it was just... Tyson Fury's just fun to watch fight because he just throws and you never know when he could be knocked out and then totally be fine the next round. Yeah, I love it.

So I didn't watch the entire fight. I did watch the highlights of the fight, including the walkouts, which you sick one that Yeah, it's down. And in the ninth round, I saw somebody posted a video that was filmed in their own living room of their television. So that one didn't get posted. That one didn't get taken down online. So I was able to watch it. And it was impressive because Tyson Fury he gets not it's a knockdown But he never actually hit the ground You give him a standing a give him a standing eight count and then he came back and survived that somehow if you can get knocked Out on your feet and then continue to fight for another two rounds You should almost get the win It was incredible to watch because he was and Yusick was awesome and just like kicking his ass in that ninth round

But still Tyson Fury, I mean he's done it many times before because he was, and Jusek was awesome, and just like kicking his ass in that ninth round, but still Tyson Fury, I mean, he's done it many times before. He's like the one fighter when you watch, I chose my words carefully. I was like Tyson Fury's in deep water, because I knew he's the type of guy that if you're like Tyson Fury's done, he'll come back and he'll just knock someone else out.

Him and Nate Diaz. Yeah, they just need to get knocked around a little bit. But it was a great fight. I think it was Tyson Fury's first loss. So, so now there's an automatic rematch. I like that. But now you sec is undef, undisputed. Yes. Undisputed. Yes. He has them all. He's beaten everyone. Um, and then Tyson Fury, a little bit, not maybe not the nicest thing when he was just like, oh yeah, you sick. He's Ukrainian. They're at war. So people feel bad for him. That's why they voted for him. I was like, I don't think so. Yeah. I think he, I think he kind of knocked out. I think he won. Yeah. He won the fight. Yeah. All right. Jake finishes off. My who's back of the week is elite pitching. Oh, we had elite pitching at Wrigley field on Yoda in multiple ways. Yeah. Paul skeins on Friday. Oh, you were gonna tell us showed up. I said multiple ways. I'm playing chronological order. Okay. Paul skeins. I think he struck out the first seven batters. He did. He's Friday. Oh, you weren't gonna tell me about Shota? I said multiple ways. I'm doing it in chronological order. Okay. Paul Skeens, I think he struck out the first seven batters.

He did. He's awesome. And then your guy. Shota? Shota. On Saturday, one-nothing walk-off. Yeah. Some people saying controversial, but.

Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean Cody Bellinger definitely hit it out of his hand. Yeah. I don't care. Cubs needed a win. They, I don't care. But I was needed to win. They can't hit for shit. But yeah, Paul skeins. Paul skeins is really fucking. Yeah, I love it. I love it when when young prospects step up and it's a big moment and they're better than you thought they'd be.

Oh, yeah, having a sick pitching prospect who I mean he was he won the national championship last year and he's already up doing this. He's awesome. So what are the rules on showed up by the way is under one era? I just want to say he's fucking phenomenal. What are the rules on hitting the ball out of the catcher's hand? Um I would say that was probably illegal, but I don't care because it helped me. I would say okay. That's fair well, it was a transfer so he tagged him and then he transferred it and then So he tagged him and then he transferred it and then Bellinger kind of knocked it out on it wasn't like an a rod knocking out where he had to go out of the way his Hands were up to slide so it it looked natural Yeah, I think that's why they didn't overturn it cuz the up was screened off from that

But I can be honest and say that yes, he hit the ball out of his hand Yeah, my rule of thumb on all plays like these is did they call it? They reviewed it and they gave it to the Cubs. Yeah, so they didn't call it So they called them safe. Yeah, and they reviewed it and then the Cubs won Yeah, so I think that's Rick and the Cubs needed to win my son by the way today Well, I took him to Wrigley for five innings and he was like dad. There's a ticket lady I was like, this is a proud proud moment. She's telling that's Chuck E. Cheese. I was just like, no, he's the, he, he's not Chuck E. Cheese. That's my daughter. He's, he knows the 50, 50 raffle.

Again, we lost. He's a fucking mush, but still for him to be like, Hey, there's the ticket lady. Yeah, that's a pretty, actually, I think he said, there's the ticket girl. And it was, if you've ever been to Wrigley, everyone who works at Wrigley is 85 years old. I can't believe we didn't put that together sooner that your daughter is just like you. You both go places, spend a lot of money on tickets that don't get you anything. Yeah well my son was today with the ticket girl. Yeah. My, my, yeah my daughter's chunk of cheese. Yeah but they both. No but I'm saying you, you, yes. And your daughter. Yes are the same person. Yes, absolutely 100%

Yep, she's a troll to big-time troll trolls trolls a lot Trolls me a lot Okay, should we get to our interviews? We got great interviews PK Subban and Jerry O'Connell, I have a quick Monday reading for us on the other side as well Before we get to PK Subban, he's brought to you by our good friends over at Game Time. I love Game Time. Game Time is the absolute best app. I use it all the time. If I'm going to a game, if I'm going to a concert, if I'm going to a show, you

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I always bet on the players. So when I think of who am I going up against or who am I going to watch play this round, I'm saying Conor McDavid, this is, you know, he's had a couple of cracks at this now. I have to feel that his best hockey is going to continue to get better as the playoffs go on. And we're going to see more and more of it over the years.

So I just think that their team this year coming down the stretch, I thought they were playing such great hockey. I had the confidence to say, you know what? I think I've been to win this in six, now that it's in seven games. And I've seen the Vancouver Canucks now go, you know, lose their number one goaltender, lose their number two goaltender, have Susie missed a game, have guys in and out of the lineup, guys banged up

alive peterson you know kind of just woke up in game five right came alive came into the series rillian is now having an impact i i really think this is gonna be a tough game seven for edmonton to win i i believe that i know that they had it all going on in game six but i think vancouver home, uh, you know, coached by Rick talk, you know, these guys, you know, they're going to have to fight for every inch, you know, McDavid and dry saddle, aren't getting any free passes and Vancouver is definitely going to, you know, they're going to clean up. Uh, the fact that they took too many penalties in game six.

So I expect them to be more disciplined, but I'm going to ride with Connor McDavid when it's all said and done. I'm going to say that I think Connor figures it out finds a way to get his team over the hump and into a conference final now if they do lose I I think it's outrageous to think that Connor McDavid can't win a Stanley Cup or is it good enough to win one I think people are insane for thinking that I won't even I will entertain it on your podcast because I know who you guys are you guys have you guys have my respect in this game and you guys obviously burned a lot of people's respect but for most people that talk about Connor McDavid I don't

even have the discussion with them about it because I said this guy's the best player that maybe we've ever seen play the game skill wise yeah stuff that he can do out there so uh it's a team sport. Hockey is the ultimate team sport. You've got to have the horses to win. And I still don't think that their team on paper is good enough to win the Stanley Cup this year, but it's not always about what's on paper, right? It's getting bodies healthy and, and, and elevating your game at the right time. And I w I'll speak for myself, but I think I might speak for PFT as well when I say that

Connor McDavid is so much fun to watch. He's so good. He's the best player in the sport. We believe all those things, but we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't latch on to a very easy can't win the big one narrative. I mean, that's like the best thing to do in sports is be like, can't win the big one. Just put it in NBA terms for me. It sounds like he's the NHL version of Chris Paul. Yeah. Can't win the big one. Just put it in NBA terms for me. It sounds like he's the NHL version of Chris Paul. Yeah. Can't win. Hold on. Whoa, no offense to Chris Paul. Love Chris Paul. Veteran guy, grinded out the NBA, played at an elite level for a long time. Like I got nothing bad to say about Chris, uh, Chris Paul, but he's not in the same category as Connor McDavid

in terms of impact in the sport. Connor McDavid, like we're talking about putting the all-time grades together and who is the most talented. Like Connor McDavid is coming out of that group. Like there's no one even close that can do the things at top speed that he does night in and night out. Like guys, he, if he wants to put up three, four points a night, he can, that may not always result in his team winning a hockey game. That's what's, that's why the Stanley cup is the hardest trophy to win. Right. Is it's not just about an individual taking over a game.

I would don't, I would say this, if the Edmonton Oilers lose in game seven and Connor McDavid doesn't show up on the score sheet or doesn't show to have been the best player, one of the best players on the ice, then 100%, there's got to be questions asked about why. And I didn't think in game six he shot the puck enough. Yeah, he had three assists, but I've seen him be way more aggressive than that. So is he injured? Is he banged up? Is he 100%? I don't know. But we have to see his best game come game seven of the season. He has to. And, you know, I give him credit though.

He's been extremely patient. He's been a leader and he's really grown into that role. He hasn't tried to force the envelope. He hasn't tried to do too much. It really looks like he's settling to how he has to play to win in the playoffs. And I think that that's what we have to, the people that know hockey and watch the game, We see those things. So Yeah, you can't you can't say that this guy can't win

I'm definitely going to cuz it's fun to say that and he hasn't has Chris Paul's been to a finals, right? He's he did go to the finals. Yeah has Connor McDavid. So I mean we can say all these things He lost to Yon again. We don't want. This hurts me. I like Connor McDavid a lot. I love watching him play hockey, but we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't say this. And we kind of got you in the argument right there. Cause you started saying like, if he doesn't show up in game seven, we got you. We, we drug you down to the death. I don't, I don't give any players a free pass. Connor McDavid at the start of the playoffs, I said, okay, I've seen this guy now four or five, six years in the class where he's getting three, four points a game, but they're still losing.

So I'm saying that he's got to make adjustments in his game. Like Sidney Crosby did when Sidney Crosby, if you watch Sidney Crosby's career, his game changed like three different times, man. He reinvented himself and added things to his game. That's why I still believe he's the best all around player in the game today. But as far as skill and skillset goes, that's Carter McDavid,

and he's still learning how to do that. So it's difficult to become a winner in this league. It's not just based on you. I think Edmonton has enough pieces, but does he have the team, the full team, to win a championship? I don't think you can put that pressure on him. Listen, he's going to put the pressure on the team he wants to win.

So he's going to say, yeah, Stanley Cup or bust. But when you look at the National Hockey League and teams to win the cup, Edmonton's team on paper isn't where the Dallas stars were, even the Vegas Golden Knights, Rangers or Florida doesn't mean they can't win. You know, that's why you have the best player in the world. And you have Leon Dreyseid, because you always have a chance and you have those guys on the ice. So I looked up.

Should we have the time on ice per game conversation? Yeah, sure. I looked up the time on ice for Conor McDavid. He plays this year, played 21 minutes, 22 seconds per game. That was his average. Nicole, Nicole Jokic plays 40 minutes per game. Oh, wow in the NBA. That's a lot. Why doesn't Connor McDavid just play more?

Oh, Patrick Mahomes I think took every single offensive snap. Full game. For the Chiefs. Full game. And the Super Bowl was definitely a game. Oh yeah, okay. So let me tell you why. So in football and basketball you can run out of bounds.

So Patrick Mahomes getting chased by a linebacker, he can run out of bounds. He doesn't have to get hit. Where's Connor McDavid going if Zdorov tries to chase him around the ice, he can't go anywhere. It's a good point. I looked, I, and it's a fair point. So I looked up Christian Pulisic minutes per game. He plays usually the entire game in soccer. So, wow. Yeah. Different sport. Yeah. And by the way, two out of those three sports, you need football, basketball, and soccer. Well, I'm gonna tell you something right now.

In terms of toughness, we're not gonna talk about soccer with hockey players, not taking it away from soccer, but they're not even in the conversation. Football's in the conversation. Different sport, right? A whole lot more players, less players in hockey. Not only that, you can't play the whole, you can't play the whole game in hockey. Do you know how hard it is to play hockey?

45 second shifts all out going 30 miles an hour blocking shots. Like it's a different game. So I don't think you can compare Patrick Mahomes to Connor McDavid. Yeah. Cause he plays the whole time. Right. In terms Patrick, you win a lot of championships. In terms of their impact. Yes. And their skill set. Yes. But as far as like how much they're on the field or on the ice, it's like apples to oranges. We're done. We're done fucking. Yeah. Welcome to part of my take. We did. That was our interview. You guys are best with me now. That was a great interview. You guys got me warmed up now. Yeah. Yeah. We got you. I like it.

You guys got me warmed up. Yeah. Let's go. You showed some fight. The rings are off. Let's go. Yeah. Speaking of fighting, so we're hockey now. Yeah, we got you guys warmed up. I like it. Let's go. You showed some fight. The rings are off. Let's fucking go. Yeah, speaking of fighting, so we're hockey fans. I think we're probably the definition of casuals on this show, but we love watching it, especially playoff hockey. The one thing that I am always missing in playoff hockey is more fighting.

And I just had an idea for a rule, want to get your take on it. What if you just said in the playoffs, each team gets one fight per game and it doesn't get penalized. People, they don't want to fight in the playoffs because they don't want to take it stupid penalty. They want to put themselves in a position where they might get bounced and their season's over because they fought somebody. Why don't we just do one fight per game and it's totally legal. You can do that. Go back and send your guys back to the bench afterwards. You're enforcers skate off the ice ice and come back whenever, but just one per game as like, as like a free pass. Leave fighting alone. If the players want to fight, let them fight. How do you want

to put a limit on it? If guys want to fight, let them go. Like the reality of the game is today you need guys that can play. So if you, if you end up going to draft in 22 guys that can play first rounders, that can play. So if you, if you end up going to draft and 22 guys that can play first rounders, that can play in different positions and they happen to know how to fight. Great. You're going to have a really skilled and tough team. It don't mean you're going to win anything. So, you know, what I'm saying is we saw Matthew Kachuk and David

Pasternak fighting the playoffs. What's better than that? Seeing two stars go at it. Right. Like you want to talk about it. I would have loved to see Kobe and LeBron Duke it out in basketball at some point in time, but that was never going to happen because in basketball they don't let them fight, right?

So what I'm saying is hockey has that special element to it that if the star players get, when they get emotionally engaged, and this is what we love about the Stanley Cup playoffs is that in other sports, I feel like you can play and not be fully engaged in hockey. You can't take a shift off. Like you can't, like you could take, if you lose your focus for one second,

that can cost you your season or it can cost you, listen, it can cost you your personal playoff run. You can get hurt, seriously hurt. We've seen guys get hurt. So Stanley Cup playoffs is no joke. And when it comes to fighting, I love to see it in the game at the right time. And now every team usually has maybe one guy that can go a heavyweight guy. I don't mind seeing them go once in a while, but don't put a limit on it. Let the guys go. They want to go, let them go.

Okay. I like that. That's even a better idea. Yeah. Okay. So we talked about the about the oilers Canucks waiting for them as the Dallas stars who have looked really, really good in these plans, especially the first round, you know, in talking to our hockey guys, Witton biz, they both said like the Knights or the stars could easily win the Stanley cup. The fact they have to play each other in the first round is crazy. Uh, but what is it about the stars and the way they're playing? Is it just the depth they have and they just can roll out the lines or what has impressed you with the Stars thus far? Well, what's impressed me the most is let's give Jim Nill credit. I mean, to build this team the way that he's built it, the credit has to start there. And you know, I took,

I started doing media not because I wanted to expose the players, the players are the product. I want to uplift the players and celebrate them. I'd probably be more inclined to be a little bit more judgmental and critical of management coaches and GMs and stuff like that. But when I see a GM that has been consistently making his team better every year, and it's been a while Jim Neal's been at it, right? Like to see Dallas, I've seen that team go through some, some shift overs, some changes. You talk about Radulov and different guys

that Ciuska used to play that guys who have come through there and they've just managed to draft so well, bring in free agents, slot them in at the right place. So I think that this is a team that has been so well built from top to bottom and Jim Nill deserves a lot of credit Pete DeBoer we know how great of a coach he is so now he's taking those pieces and he's getting the most out of them every night but more importantly it's structure it's discipline and it's giving everybody a role everybody is important on that Dallas Stars team When you watch them play everybody's embraced the same way. And it starts with leadership. Jamie Ben has been

at it for a long time and he wants to win. And you can see he's the right leader. You can see him physically whether he has to step up and score a big goal. He's doing it, but it's their temperament for me. And listen, you have Joe Pavelski, you got Ryan Suter on the back end, you got Jay Ott, Ottinger and Nett, who's in the top five boys. It's just, for me, the main ingredient for them outside of their veterans, their experience, it's the young players. I mean, Stan Colvin, Wyatt Johnston, like Steele, like these guys have come in and made a huge difference. Without those guys, they're not in the position that they're in right now. Those guys are bringing a tremendous amount of energy and juice to that team that allows them to sustain

that structure and that playing style, game in and game out. Like you watch Dallas, they're rarely out of a game. Like when do you ever see them completely out of the game? They're in the mix because they have a great balance of young and veteran players. And it's the right mix, right leadership, and it starts with the management at the top.

Dallas has, they're in a perfect spot right now. I mean, they gotta be really, really excited about the opportunity they have. Yeah, yeah, they need to rest up a little bit. So sticking out, Wes, actually kind of a bigger picture question for you. Do you think this is as big as hockey's ever been in the history of the sport?

I think it's a pivotal time. I think with the changing landscape in media and in sports in general, there's just been a lot of changes over the past, let's say six to eight years, just in the world in general and the shift and live television and sports has become right to the forefront and it's just continued to grow. And I think that has opened up a lane for hockey because in my opinion, since I played the game, hockey is probably the only professional sport that has like an immense amount of room for growth. You know, like we're just tapping in to what like people are just discovering our sport

in some ways. And it's crazy because there's an immense amount of history there. And that's what people hang their hat on. That's what people want to celebrate is history. And hockey's got a tremendous amount of rich history. So once we get people to just sit down and and get to know the game and understand the game and then, you know, once we get them, that little bit of like intrigue, we have, you know, we don get them that little bit of like intrigue-ness, we have them.

You know, we don't lose our fans. Our fans stay, hockey fans stay, they're loyal fans. So I think that coming over to ESPN has definitely helped using that platform. And we're trying to do the best that we can to grow the game. But make no doubt about it starts with the players and the product and starts you guys like Connor McDavid, the Jack Fuses of the world all these guys the Lafrenier Even in net the goaltenders should stir It's just we have so many so much great talent in the game today

From young guys that are in the mid part of their career to the veterans like crossbeam. Oh that's good It's just a great mix and it's really entertaining to watch every night. Yeah, so can you explain to us? Maybe some people out there that are relatively new to hockey, what is goalie interference and why is it so hard to call? Well, okay. So I get a lot of questions about officiating and everybody makes a big deal out of it. Um, you know, I was one of those players that I'd give it to the rep, you know, I was always polite, never swore at them, but I was always engaged emotionally. So I was very opinionated about certain calls.

But the one thing that I've realized now is that one night I'll be sitting there watching and there'll be a call and I'll sound off on it. I'll be like, man, that's goaltender interference. And then I'll do it. I noticed there's a trend. It's like every night I'm doing it. And it's like, we forget that there's humans out there's a trend. It's like every night I'm doing it. And it's like, we forget that like there's humans out there making these calls. Like,

it's not like, it's not automatic. And by the way, it's so easy when you're watching the game to pick it out. Like most of the time now when I'm watching it, I'm like, man, it's a tough job being a referee in the national hockey league in any sport. I'm watching the NBA NFL. Like we're really, really tough on the officials. And I think that because we have so many cameras now, we have social media, we can replay, we can break down, slow things down, it just gets more and more. So I try to pick my spots.

I think if something's egregiously obvious, I call it out, but most of the time it balances itself out. Like what some games you're're gonna get your power place. Some games you're not. Those games that you're not getting it, you gotta work a little bit harder. But the reality is, is that like, we all know as players. I'll give you an example,

Vancouver and Edmonton the other night, right? I know we're talking goaltender interference, but Vancouver, Edmonton, I'm watching the game and I see Zadorov, right? Going to the corner and let go of the stick to kind of let the player through so he doesn't have to impede as he moves his arm up he grazes them in the head guy snaps his head back gets a penalty Dakota Joshua same thing high stick in front of the net right accidental kind of comes up boom but here's what I'm saying

it's like okay those are soft calls I don't want to see those called but you got to know this in the fucking playoffs. You got to have your stick down on the ice. You bring your stick up around anybody's head or shoulders. You're at risk to get called. And in a game six or seven, I wouldn't even be taking that risk. Don't make it a judgment call for the refs. And I think that sometimes the players got to be smarter about how they play.

And it's not always about going into the corner like a bat out of hell Trying to get the puck sometimes you got to be smart and be efficient read the clock Understand the timing of the game and don't put yourself in that position because the refs got to make calls, too Yeah, you know, so yeah, but goaltender interference. Here's what I say. I watched Connor McDavid last night He cuts back and he kind of goes in behind the defense to try to screen. If you're a player going to the net, you cannot slide in behind the defense. It's one of the dumbest things to do as a forward because all the defense is going to do is back up because he's entitled to that ice. He's going to back up. You're going to

hit the goaltender and anything that happens after that. Now it's a 50 50. Yeah. Now you don't know. Like now. So you got to stay above the blue paint. If you're a player and stay out of the crease, like do not get in the crease. Once you're in the crease, whether you're pushed in, doesn't matter. It's a judgment call for the rep. And then I'm not going to argue with the rep, whether he thinks it's goaltender interference or not. You go to the net, you got to go to the net hard, but you got to be responsible for your body. And guys are so smart. They're so good at selling calls and selling when somebody hits them.

It's just a difficult time to be a referee. So it's a gray line, but I always say you can't touch the goaltenders. We have some of the best goaltenders in the league. They've got to be able to make the save. And it also, I mean, playoff hockey is great because you do feel like to win a Stanley Cup and to advance in all these rounds, you have to get a certain amount of like the dirty

goals, the goals that are like, you know, deflections and guys in traffic in front and just, you know, lucky tip-ins and all that stuff. So it's so much fun to watch. And then you do get those 50-50 calls. Some of the stuff that we've seen so far in the playoffs, I know you had a, uh, take on the Sam Bennett, Brad Marshawn punch. You thought it was okay because Brad Marshawn has done enough, uh, in his past to, to maybe get one going his way. Uh, I mean, I like, I like all kinds of stuff in hockey like that.

No, you're shaking your head. No, it was okay. No, it wasn't okay. You misquoted me. I'm not shaking my head to you. I want to be clear on that. But I heard so many people speak out on this and say, Oh my God, he gets a scumbag. He said that Brad Marsha deserved it. And you know what I say to those people? Like even if that was my intent, so be it. I don't care about what any of you think anyway. I wish I was still playing so I could go up against the Bruins and run hell at TD garden and all through if that was my intent, so be it. I don't care about what any of you think anyway. I wish I was still playing so I could go up against the Bruins and run hell at TD Garden and all through Boston, but I'm not playing anymore. So I got to call it real, whether it's Brad Marshawn, whether it's Sam

Bennett, I'm calling it down the middle in the way that I see it. I don't care. It has nothing to do with me playing in Montreal. So people always want to tie me into that and it's not that at all So what I said was this yeah, this is what I said. I Said Brad Marshawn has gotten over on hundreds. Maybe thousands of players over his career I've won a gold medal with Brad Marshawn at the World Juniors And by the way, I like I would say to sit next to Brad, because A, I know him personally, love the guy. B, I respect his game, even though that we've gone head to head a million times. So anything I would ever say, I would say to his face, Brad knows this. And this

is why I was so proud of him in the interview that he did, because that's part of the game. Yeah. Like you got to tow the line. and Sam Bennett in playoffs, like Brad said, dude, a hundred percent, you're trying to listen to me. You think that someone go look at some of the highlights of my hits. You think I'm just trying to separate the man from the puck? Absolutely not. I'm trying to make sure that he doesn't come down my side for the rest of the series. Well, you got to inflict pain to do that.

And when you do that, somebody may get hurt. And here's the thing that I'm going to say. Playoff hockey, at the end of the day, it's one moment you're here, the next moment you might be golfing. Guys are playing to put food on their tables, money in their pockets, feed their families, and more importantly, live out their dream of hoisting the Stanley Cup. Which by the way, 700 plus guys dream, hoisting the Stanley Cup, which by the way 700 plus guys dream dreamt about that their whole lives to start the season and

It's gonna come down to 25 guys that are gonna, you know fulfill that dream at the end of the season So if you think that guys are gonna go out there and tiptoe around each other and aren't gonna look to take a shot at A dude if he's exposing he's a star player. You're nuts You're absolutely nuts and I don't want that out of the game by the way i agree no you're telling me that i've never been cheat shotting before you're telling me that lucik, marshawn, chara, boyjack, barrence, uh gregory campbell, john thorton, Mcway, you don't think that any of those guys, Chris Kelly, you don't think those guys took their shots. When I was 19 or 20, I love them for it. That's a part of the game. Yeah. Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hybrid. Right? So you got, you got so fired up there, PK. I think your headphones, I think your headphones, wait, wait, talk

again. Can you hear me now? Yeah. You sound like you went underwater for a second. You got so fired up. I liked it so much. Can you, can you still hear me? It still sounds like you're underwater. That was a great speech. All right. That's better. No, but honestly, because, because, because I get really upset about it because people try to take hockey and make it into something that it's not. And it's never going to happen. Like I'm telling you right now, they're going to have to take me off, off the TV screen because I'm never going to change my opinion of it. And it's because I know the players. I know what the players want. We want that element of it. Like I don't, I don't care at that anyways when I watched on cherries highlight tapes my whole life

That's what I grew up watching by the way I watched more of Don Cherry Rockham Sockham tapes and I probably did of NHL hockey games growing up because all I wanted to do was play in the playoffs and have blood coming down my head and Raising a Stanley Cup and stitches and the Bruce like that's what you dreamt about Stanley Kop and Stitches and the Bruce. Like that's what you dreamt about. So for the average fan that sits and watches it that loves to put on the sweater because they're from Dorchester or they're from Toronto

or they're from New York and they're from Staten Island and they're a fan of their team, that's great and all. But these players, they're the warriors that go out and do the job. They're the guys that actually go out and take the hits and block the shots and get the stitches and lose the teeth and get the concussions and the broken bones and deal with the pain and the aches that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives, right? And everybody else has to do that in pro sports, but they're not playing hockey.

They're not playing on a frozen piece of ice in a cage, know, going at 40 miles an hour, getting hit with frozen pox and high sticks and losing teeth. So the players want that because we're playing for the glory of it. Yeah. That's why it's Lord Stanley, the glory of winning a championship and being successful and having success in the playoffs is paying a toll and a price and everybody wants to pay that price. Don't take that away from the players. Like you're taking that away by trying to point out. Well, this guy's a dog. Yeah, of course. He's a dog.

They're trying to get over on each other. They're trying to win. They're trying to the best part about that series was watching Sam Bennett and Brad Marshawn shake hands. I mean, it's an F you to all those fans out there that try to take that component out of the game Yes, if you get caught doing it, we got to talk about it. You get suspended you're getting fine But if you don't we still got to celebrate it because that's those are elements of the game that Impact who wins and who doesn't and I think it's important to have it's always been a part of hockey

It should always be a part of it. I'm happy I brought it up cuz that fired me up Yeah That fired me the fuck up you're talking about people trying to get things out of the game what they're doing You can watch the slow-mo replays and you can take it frame by frame And then you judge somebody's intent and what they're trying to do based on this frame as opposed to what happened one millisecond before that and the games played on ice You've got fucking razor blades on your shoes and like you said you're going 40 miles an hour at somebody sometimes they

try to legislate it by like the smallest minor detail that they see on instant replay which I don't think that's how that's not how any sport should be done. No and by the way like it doesn't have to be guys listen Stanley Cup final I'm playing out my dream we're in Pittsburgh game one Crosby I'm with Nashville I score the first goal the Stanley Cup final it gets called back on Philip Forsberg's a legend toe being off the ice and the goal gets called back they take away the amendment Pittsburgh scores three we come back the game, but we end up losing, right? We end up losing series.

We had two goals called back. I'm never going to complain about the officiating in any of those games. It's never going to happen because that's a part of the game. I'm sure there were other games through that stretch of hockey during that playoffs where we got some favorable calls. It's just the way it is. Yeah. So, you know, I'm not going to sit and debate it every night with fans that want to try

to take certain things out of the game. This is hockey. I'm going to tell people again, if you don't like it, go play pickleball, go play volleyball, go pick, go ahead, go play golf. This isn't a sport for you. This is, this is for people that love the fact that guys go out and put their body on the line Every night they understand what's at stake when they take the ice, especially in the Stanley Cup playoffs Yeah, yeah, so how bad does it suck to block a shot in the playoffs?

Horrible. It's the worst thing ever. I never ever want to tell people that it's great. It's not It's not a fun part That's why I have so much respect for players that do it. And there's some guys who have to do it more than others, but everybody in the playoffs has to block shots. And anybody that tells you it's fun, there's nothing fun about it. And I have respect for guys because when I played,

I was pretty much shooting pucks over 100 miles an hour every time I was shooting those one-timers. And there were some guys that never blinked to get in the way. And I've seen shattered hands, tibias, fibulas, shattered ankles, everything you know and it's just once again it's the price that you pay to play so to get an opinion from people on the outside that have never blocked a shot try to tell people what should be going on on the ice it's just I don't want to hear it.

All right so in the east we talked a little bit about the Panthers, Panthers, Rangers though, who do you have winning this series? And I mean, the Rangers, like it felt like they were headed towards an all time collapse with that game, game six against the hurricanes and being having to go to a game seven, like, Oh my God, they're up three Oh, and maybe a game seven Panthers look really, really good. Uh, who do you have winning and why? So I'm going to pick the Rangers and I'm going to tell you why. Um, I have to get into this explanation because it's detailed and it's very, very important because it lines up the perspective of the series of things to look for. I watched a game earlier this year,

I was away on vacation and it was between Florida and the Rangers and Barkov I think was missing from that game. I think Florida had Barkov missing, maybe Forsling was missing. The game ended up going into overtime, Rangers ended up winning in overtime or shootout. And I watched that game and after the game the first thing that I said was, you know, Florida Panthers were the better team. Like, I thought they were the better team. They controlled play, they shrunk the ice, and the Rangers are going to have to be a whole lot tougher if they see Florida in the playoffs. And I'm sitting here now watching a Rangers team that has battled through adversity, that has shown that their power play and special teams

can get the job done. They've also shown that Artemi Panarin is hungry for the moment, not looking to shy away from it. Mika Zabinajad has shown up when they've needed him to show up. He doesn't need to be Mika Zabinajad of when he was 23, 24, and dancing around the ice every

shift, but he's got to be there to facilitate what she's done. They've gotten secondary scoring, Barkley Goudreau, that's up their defense. This is where I want to talk about it. The Rangers have a deep bearing of Lindgren and Fox that has done very, very well. It'll be interesting to see what they do with their back end, because this series is going to be just as much about matchups as any other series. I don't think the Carolina series and the Washington series was as important for the Rangers and for Florida to match up. Probably more important for the Rangers than Florida. Florida just kind of plays the same style,

but for the Rangers, matchups are gonna be key. Because if you got Barkov and Matthew Kachuk on a different line, I know Peter Laviolette likes to have Lindgren and Fox against the smaller, speedier guys. That's what they did in Carolina. They had Gensel and Jarvis against, right? They had Lindgren and Fox matched up against those guys. So now he may have to change that up.

And once you start changing up those matchups, it's all matchups now. And I think that that's gonna be the game within the game. I think that home ice is gonna matter who gets the last change at different moments. But make no doubt about it to simplify it. This series is going to be played in the corners and in front of the net. The Florida Panthers are gonna take what rank the Rangers have been playing on for the past two rounds. It probably feels like an Olympic size rank and they're gonna shrink it to like a backyard

rank and they're gonna make it feel that way. And that's what Florida does. And if they do that to the Rangers and they're able to do that for an extended period of time, the Rangers will be in trouble. But if the Rangers can play their game, move pucks, break out clean, attack through the neutral zone, draw a panel of these, play that wide open style that we've seen them play.

And they can grind it out, but they're at their best when they're attacking and their transition game is quick. And they three quarter ice the shit out of you. On the ice, every turnover is back up. They don't dust it off. They're not going D to D. It's right back up to the forwards and they're right back at you. If

they play that game, they will have a ton of success. And, uh, I hope they do. I, I, I'm, I'm pulling for the Rangers. I 93, 30 years. I want to see it happen. This team's played good hockey all year. I've watched them closely. I want to see them do it, but the Florida Panthers, they're going to look to get that game going. And if they do, the Rangers could be in trouble. So what do the Panthers have to do exactly to counteract what Lavi Allette's going to be doing with the Rangers? How do they counteract his chess move? Well, Florida's going to play their game. So the same game that you saw them play against Florida and, sorry, against now Florida Boston, the same game that

you saw them play in the first two rounds, they're going to be playing that same game against the Rangers, but there's going to be an emphasis on being physical on the Rangers defense because, uh, this is where I think it's going to be tough for the Rangers. Carolina, in my opinion, didn't have enough skill up front to put the puck in the right places and make enough plays in tight to put enough duress on the Rangers. They had spurts of it, but they couldn't sustain it. You need to sustain it and have that timely pressure. Like Boston, Boston's structure gave Florida a little bit more trouble, but Florida didn't

see their best game in that series. They were still like up and down teetering. You're gonna see the best Florida Panthers in this conference final. And, you know, if you're the New York Rangers, I don't think you're gonna expect, you know, seeing getting goals scored, you know, from the goal line and behind the goal line on Bobrovsky.

I don't see, I don't see that happening too often, if at all. So they're gonna have to earn everything they get and You know, but for the Rangers a big key is gonna be attacking Florida's defense I mean Nikolas got to step up and play this is a guy that played for them. They know him well, they have to continue to attack him cool a cob and Florida's defense you got to make it difficult on those guys because they're not as skilled as the Rangers players They're not so you got to make it difficult on those guys because they're not as skilled as the Rangers players. They're not. So you got to make it difficult on them. You got to grind them, wear them down. But I think that the Florida Panthers to have success against the

Rangers, they're going to have to shrink that ice, which means a solid four check. F3 has got to be above. They can't be giving up odd man rushes and their D got to be active. We saw what happened when Carolina's D got active against the Rangers. It gave them trouble So once Brady Shay and or love started getting involved in the tack it gave them trouble But it also opened up room for New York Rangers transition game. So I think for Florida It's just playing that frustrating airtight Solid game. I listen to Barkov's interview that he had actually just last yesterday, I think it was yesterday or today,

and he had said that, you know, for them, they want to think about defense first. Like they think defense first. They're not even thinking about offense. It's defense first. And I think he's gonna be the key. If the Rangers can somewhat keep that guy at bay, Barkov, like he's a problem to handle.

He's going to be very, very difficult for them to handle. So they're going to have to keep them at bay. Let me turn the light on. Yeah. I'm pumped up for, to watch more playoff hockey with PK. Yeah. He does a great job of pumping you up. I'm also excited. Yeah. Let's go. I'm ready. I'm ready for this. I've been waiting all year for this. All right. So I got a couple of other questions that maybe aren't going to pump us up. Um, so true or false used to save all your farts to use them on ice, uh, as in a competitive advantage. I think I remember, I think I remember quoting that. That's not true.

Have I probably dropped a few bombs on the... I mean, maybe. I mean, listen, if we go back to the days when I was eating chicken parm, I don't eat dairy anymore. I'm sure there was a couple nights where that dairy wasn't working too well with my system, if you know what I mean. Okay. Yeah. Can you explain to me the chicken parm thing? I love how much hockey players love chicken parm. Why is chicken parm the dish that hockey players eat? Listen I'm a little bit jealous that guys get to eat chicken parm like all the time

I never got to do that. I had to like like guys I put on weight so easily during the regular season. Like it didn't matter how many minutes I was playing. Like at my peak, when I was burning like 3000 calories a game, I still had to be on like a program. Like I could put, so my pregame meal became super, super tight as my career came on. It was like sweet potato. It was like veggies. It was like chicken, it was like chicken. But 99% of the players, they walk in a pregame meal, they got a crazy Coke, like pasta, like the biggest plate of pasta that you could imagine, like two chicken breasts, crazy sauce,

cheese, and I'm sitting there eating like a rabbit. And like, it's crazy. I get super jealous because I'm like, the food looks so good, but I never get to eat it. So when I started my career, I was eating everything. And it's just, that's just what it is. Yeah. I love it. They love it. So you would drop bombs at the beginning of your career, uh, to get a competitive advantage. Oh, I'm sure there was a few. I'm sure I kicked out a few. Oh yeah. All right. So my other question was, uh, your name is Purnell. Why did you never go by Purnell? It's fucking awesome name. Like was there

ever a moment where you're like, maybe I'll switch because Purnell is like, that's a unique, cool name. You know, so I'll tell you where Purnell comes from. It comes from Purnell Whitaker who was a championship boxer. So my parents named me after him, and Carl's my father's name. So that's where we get PK from. But I was called Purnell until kindergarten, grade two. And then it just switched to PK. I don't know why it switched to PK, whether I did it or my parents did it. But it just ended up getting switched to PK, I did it or my parents did it, but it just ended up getting switched

to PK and that sort of stuck. I like PK because I don't know how many PKs have you met. Yeah, true. And penalty kill, penalty kill. Yeah. Uh, principles kid. My dad's a, you know, principles kid. I got a few other nicknames for it, but I don't know if I can say it on the air. What, what is, uh, going back to the Oilers and how good their penalty, their power play is as a defenseman, what is the key to stopping a power play that is that good? And like, what are you, what are you guys talking about before the series or before a game being like, this is what we have to do. Otherwise we're toast.

We'll stay out of the box. Like with Edmonton, you just got Well stay out of the box like with Edmonton you just got to stay out of the box. Some teams you just can't like you can kill off one penalty. Let's just say one power play. It's a stupid one that you have to kill off for the game. You'll kill that one off. You'll find a way to kill it off. You know maybe they don't get in the zone for a minute. They get in. You get lucky. You get a couple blocks couple clears. McDavid's tired, he gets off the ice, you're good. But when you start giving them extra two or three power, you just can't. So the number one way to avoid having to deal with a power play is staying out of the box. So and that's why people are so critical of the officiating because there's so many good power plays. Like Edmonton, it's almost a guarantee

that they're gonna score or get a great A scoring chance where your heart's like, you know what I mean, in your mouth. So you wanna stay out of the box, but as a defenseman, oh my God, I watched the way Vancouver killed penalties. I loved it. They had that net front D hold as long as he could in front of the net,

because it's an outnumbered situation. When you're against Edmonton, they're going to continue to put you in outnumbered situations around the net as many different ways and as many times as they can for two minutes. That's what they do. So you're constantly playing two on ones all over the ice there. And because McDavid's such a good skater he can create that two-on-one anywhere he wants so really it just comes down to whether they're clicking or not against Edmonton but for the defensemen it's stay loose just don't get tied up try to anticipate some plays and get stay on

your toes but you got to take away the low ice i would say this if they're going to beat you don't let them beat you at backdoor tap ins and easy tap ins around the net. Let them beat you from a Bouchard point shot or something from outside. You know, like let them, let it have to go off two legs and into the net. You'll take that, but you can't have the backdoor tap ins to dry sidle and stuff happen. It does feel like when you watch their power play, that is what they're doing is they slowly shrink it, shrink it, shrink it. And then all of a sudden it's like, Oh, on the far side they have a two on one and there's going to be easy goal. And it just like slowly happens where there's nothing you could do passing it around perfectly. Well, it comes down to

this. How do you contain Connor McDavid? You can't when he takes that puck and skates up top around the box, all he's doing is shifting players. So there's gray areas in the zone that aren't covered, that can't be covered by the four guys that are out there. He skates up top and skates into those zones and he puts you in a bind where you've got to make a decision. You've got to take something away. And when you do, he's finding the open option. That's why he gets paid 14 million bucks a year, 12 million to 13 because he does that continuously every single night. Yeah. How do you contain them? You don't, you flip the calendar to June. Oh, that's pretty good. You hit him. His driver is they go on bud. It's time to hit the course. We're just going to run with this area because it is fun. You have to admit it's a fun narrative.

We do it with every sport. Yeah. Like a rod can't win the big one. You have to do is you have to find the best, the best player at an impossible sport to play and then figure out a reason to say, actually they're not good. Yeah. They can't win the big one. Yeah. You know, I can't take myself there because I know how good he is. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I know he's that good, but is he? He can't win the big one. But he can't win the big one. Like he guys, people are saying he had an off year this year

where he was like hurt, banged up like off year. How many points do you have? How many assists? How many cups? A hundred. How many cups? Oh, geez. Oh, we're talking. We're talking rings. Yeah. Okay.

Well, hold on. Let's, if you guys want to talk cups, then what we should do is I should come back on. We should, we should look at Connor McDavid. How many years has he played? Eight, nine years in the league. Okay. Let's look at the eight, nine years. Let's look at the teams he's played on.

And then we'll have a discussion on roster acquisitions, trades, drafting. Let's know. Let's have a conversation. PK, we could do the whole thing right now. You ready? Here we go. All right. Has Conor McDavid won the big one? won the big one. I think we know. Okay. You can throw whatever advanced analytics, draft metrics. You can throw anything at it. Cause I love Carter. David, like I, I, when he came in and played against the blackhawks this year, I was like, I have to go to this game and I like watching him play hockey is an out of body experience. He looks so much faster than everyone else on the ice. But again, we have to as

our job say he can't win the big one. They said that about Messi too, you know, and then Messi proved us all wrong and now the big one. Now he won the big one. Before I say that, I would probably go through with a fine tooth comb of management decisions in his tenure there. Yeah. And I would look at the teams that were built around them. Yeah. Because again, that would.

Because you have that much talent. I'm going to tell you there were missed opportunities. I could say that I don't have to go into the details of it. I can tell you this though. There are missed opportunities with teams to go out and acquire certain players, drafting, all of that. Drafting is the biggest one. That's why I give Jim Neal his props because that guy went out and drafted properly.

He did his research. His scouts did their research. They drafted well, and now it's paying off dividends. Whether they win the cup or not, people notice how deep their team is. They have tremendous depth because of drafting. So have the Edmonton Oilers drafted well? Well, they drafted Conor McDavid. They drafted Mugent Hopkins.

They drafted Darnall Nurse. They drafted Bouchard. They drafted some really good players. But there's a lot of other players that didn't work out that they drafted as well. There's free agent signings that didn't work out. Like, that affects your team. You can't mess up in the draft.

You can't do that. I'm actually looking at their draft history right now it turns out they drafted Connor McDavid who can't win the big one mmm that was the biggest mistake that was biggest mistake which side you know what you know when the big one Connors listening just collect your checks fill your bank account your cup will come yeah come yeah it doesn't we right. I mean, no, no, no. Even if he does win, then we say we were right. Yeah. Couldn't win the big one until he won the big one. And now he's a guy that can win the big one. It's very, who's your guy? Who are your guys in hockey? I want to know who your guys are in hockey. I mean, it's not Connor

McDavid. Who's your guy? I am a Connor McDavid fan. I'm, I'm a black Hawks fan. So I'm a Connor Bredard fan who, guess what? Connor Bredard can't win the big one. I'm a capitalist fan. It turns out Alexander Vechkin, he can win the big one. That's what I've always said about him. That's what everyone said about him. Hold that. Well, let's talk about that for a second. Right? Like, like, okay. Uh, I don't think McDavid is in this, like, are he and Ovechkin in the same boat in terms of they can't win the big, I like, I don't know.

No, cause Ove won the big one. We got you all the way into a big one. Well, hold on. We got you all the way into the big one. I think Alex Ovechkin has played on much better teams throughout his career than Connor McDavid has. I will say that. Yeah.

He played on a team that won the big one. Listen, I love like my guys, Patrick Cade and Jonathan Taze. They won a big one right away. I think, I think. that won the big one. Listen, I, I love like my guys, Patrick, Kate and Jonathan taste. They want a big one right away. I think they won multiple big ones. I think PK is about to fight us through this television screen. Well, he just realizes we, we really did. We got, we basically were like, want to go buddy. You're like, I'm not allowed to go. And then we got you to go. The comparison to Patrick comparing Conor McDavid to Patrick Mahal to doing that. That was insane. Right. Because Patrick Holmes can win the big one. You're right. It's crazy.

You guys knew you were going to have me in a bind with that. You knew you were going to have my balls in a bind. That's why you guys took me. Yeah. All right. So who is going to win the big one this year? Who do you have? Well, I had Vegas winning it all. I had Vegas winning it all. Same. I took a risk. I know I could have went with somebody out of the East and my pick probably would have lasted a little bit longer, but I went with Vegas because I just felt that like on paper to have that many like players that depth, like I'm going to take a chance that they're going to figure it out. They just did. They just, they have nine guys who had to get off season surgery. They just weren't able to get their game going and get 200% so which happens. They'll be back but now looking at it I

Dude, it's difficult to not pick the Dallas Stars like how do you not pick down like what would be a reason for not picking Dallas like when you look at their team and Especially the way they're playing from the coaching Pete DeBoer to the stars up front. have scoring depth up front they have veteran presence they have sandpaper they have youth they have speed they have defense they got sandpaper on their back end that londell and tannin you want to see those guys in the corner good luck i don't jake ottinger if he plays out of his mind or plays 80 percent of what he's capable of the dallas stars are going to be in every game and have a chance to win. So really it's going to be about how are the Dallas stars, if they make it to the Stanley cup, vinyl going to match up against any team coming out of the East. And that's the question you have to look for. Yeah. You know, um, I don't know, man, it's

hard to pick. It's, it would be easy to pick a Dallas, but I think the winner could be coming out of the East this year, that's what I think. Okay, all right, so I have one last question for you, PK. This has been awesome, we'd love to have you back anytime. It's the Roeback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts.

Roeback.com promo code take. Without giving anything away, because it hasn't been released yet. How was your walk with Frank? Cause Frank is our guy. He's a legend. Uh, I heard there's maybe some old tweets that were brought up because obviously Frank's diehard season ticket holder for the devils. How, how to go from your perspective though? First of all, God bless Frank. He's the best. Um, you know, for people that are fans of his that listen to him, watch him follow him on Instagram. This guy in person is 100 times better than whatever you would think. He's just salt of the earth, just a great guy, passionate guy about sports. I

was a little bit disappointed with Frank when I first got there because he was so nice and so polite. I'm like, Frank, I didn't come on this walk for you to like, you know what and It is really do. I love what he's doing and I just hope that I get invited on another walk but I think people will love it. We got into some hockey stuff. We talked devils a little bit. We spoke about the greatest goaltender of all time. You know it's funny when you start throwing out sports stuff though when I was throwing this way he now all of a sudden Frank the tank comes out and we had a lot of fun. So look out for that one. It was a good one. That's awesome. I get him on skates next time yeah on the ice yeah let's do that but yeah we got to do this more boys yes I got to get on here let's go yeah come come out Chicago we'll show you we'll show you what a real sport looks like

we got a full basketball court here we got lacrosse well listen if I come out to Chicago it's been a while too we got to hit it we got to step out on the night on the town for a night too. And maybe a couple of barley sandwiches. I'm a tequila guy. So don't want to say tequila. Yeah, we got, I'm not playing now. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. But yeah, this has been awesome. We'd love to have you back on and you got us fired up about hockey and thanks so much. PK Appreciate it man. No problem. And cheers to Connor McDavid winning the big one. There we go. We'll be we'll have you on when he does, which will be never. Thanks boys. All right. See you PK. Thanks man. PK was brought to you by pardon my cheesesteak. Part in My Cheese Steak is a pick up and delivery only restaurant that brings you craveable

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world, one of our best friends but it's under tough circumstances because the man in front of us right now Jerry O'Connell the legend Jerry O'Connell I don't think anyone has ever talked more shit before a game seven about the next series than JLC did today to Hank. So we had to have him on to maybe explain what's going through his head as his Bing Bong Knicks get bounced from the playoffs in seven by the Pacers. Yeah, tough guys. It was, you know, they fought hard. They made it to game seven. It's been an incredible season. So many injuries. It was a lot of fun. What I have loved for it to be, you know, Mr. Bing Bong versus Hank.

I mean, yeah, I think everybody was rooting for that. I do got to thank all the AWLs. I have never had so much social media traction as I have had. I went to go, you know, I have a busy life. I got kids. I'm here at my kids volleyball practice. I got things to do. I got kids. I'm here at my kids volleyball practice. I got things to do. I have responsibilities and I was washing my car and I was like, I got it before this

game. Just give it to cocky Hank. And I couldn't believe how well it did, but I mean, it was tough. It was a good run. You know, the Celtics look, they would have never beaten the Celtics. It was just fun to get Hank's face. You know, I it's so funny. I would have thought I would have thought getting Oh, there's my first time I would have thought getting under Max's

skin was the most fun. Yeah, but really, I just I live. I live to get under Hank's skin. He's just such a complicated that I've not cursed. There's teenage girls. He's just such a complicated fucking guy. I just want to get on. I want to get in there. There he is. So you know what? Listen, I know it's the end of the next season and that's it. But before I say goodbye to Mr. Bing Bong for the year, is it okay if just a couple, just for a little bit, I bring Mr. Bing Bong back? Yeah, a couple Bing Bongs for the road.

Just for Hank, yeah. Is it okay just for the end of the season? I mean, now that it's all over and you gotta watch the Pacers versus the Celtics, sleepy like Mr. Hank in the morning. Ring bong. Hey, what's up Mr. Snooze? There he is.

Wait, let me get into the character more. I'm an actor, so. Mr. Ring bong. Oh, Hank. Boston sucks. Real fans. Ruins, flopped it all. Toy boats, toy boats. Red leather, yellow leather. Here we go. And so Hank, give me an action.

Action. Bing bang, Hanky. Bing, there he is. Mr. Stand up, Mr. Comedy. I saw your stand up. You killed it. Just like your boy, Aaron Hernandez. Pow, pow. Yeah, in a ditch. Dead in a ditch.

In a ditch. Hey, Mr. Hankey, Mr. Sleepy Time, are you there? Yeah, I'm right there. Wide awake. Yeah, there you are. There he is, wide awake. Look at him. Hey, I'm right there. Wide awake. There you are. There he is. Wide awake. Look at him. Hey, you got a golf simulator there at the Boston headquarters. A golf simulator. Yeah.

And you use it sometimes. Yeah. Maybe you should have used the Tiffany Gomez simulator. Mr. Snow's bot I hear you're trying to slam dunk a basketball bing-bong. I am. Is that? Yeah. You got less hops than I can of course like With the little blue mountain, you know, it's blue so you don't have to touch it with your delicate fingers you can see

fingies Fingies and tootsies Tiffany Gomez. Show us your tootsies She covers them up with an emoji She covers them up with an emoji. You gotta pay extra being Tiffany the one that got away She got away you could have been hog hunting with Sure, what's your tootsie? Hey, okay. Hey, okay, hey Mr. Hankey, I heard your boy is regretting that he did the roast because of what it did to his family.

Yeah, you wouldn't know what it's like to have a family because you blew your chance with Tiffany Gomez. You could have had a family. A bunch of little hog hunters, little wild boar hunters. Wow. From a chopper. Impressive. Bing Bong.

Missing animal. Didn't do nothing. You know what I'm picking on? Maybe Mr. Bing Bong's picking on Hanky a little too much here. Oh yeah, you guys didn't even beat the Pacers. This would have been fun. It would have been a fun series. Oh, there he is cocky There he is

But see he's leaning back. He's looking cocky. Yeah, it's true The Knicks snuck up MSG today that happened They snuck it up just like Jake he is thinking up that control room all the time What you doing you eating legumes? Look at you. I mean, I look at that threesome in there. You think, you know, max he's the one who's shitting himself. Not you. J. What's going on with your ass? You got to fix that. Oh, Mr. Bing, yeah.

I'm going to miss Mr. Bing. We'll have to bring it. I really, I miss them already. Yeah. The next, you guys are never going to see the Knicks blow it in Dallas. Just like you blew it. You blew it. Show us your cookies. I got a question. Um, was, were the arm weights when you were walking your dog, you were, you were lifting like old geriatric, like 80 year old woman arm weights. Was that a mr Bing bongs arm weights or was that Jerry O'Connell's arm weights? No, I don't do prop work. Those were, those were my, you know, wait, hold on a second and serve it up. Charlie serve it up. It's my daughter serving with a ball here. Uh, they're actually leg weights. I'll have, you know, they are not arm weights. They are leg weights that

I put on my arms and it's, uh, it's to keep it like, Oh, look at that. He's got his arms. Hey, you know, I'm not done with you, Hanky. I'm not finished with you. Where is he? Where is Hanky? Hanky, are you there? Right here.

Yeah, the Bruins, sorry about them. They prematurely left the playoffs, just like you are rematured with Thriven Gomez. I'm gonna keep an eye on those teenagers. Yeah. Yeah. Jerry, what does Mr. Bing Bong have planned for next year? You like this Knicks team? You want to make any additions? What could change? You know, I should answer that. I'm gonna get out of character and get back to Jerry. I still wish KD was here, man.

It's just that one. We needed that one player, you know, it's just crazy. So we'll see what happens in the offseason. It was a great season. It was injury ridden. It was it was a bummer. But you know what? I think as you saw in the game today, everyone was really proud. I was really bummed that Jalen Brunson didn't get clapped off, didn't get like his proper applause. He had to go into the locker room. Hey, Mr. Bingman's back. Hold on a second.

You know, Jalen Brunson's hand is more fractured than Hank and Tiffany's relationship. and Hank and Tiffany's relationship. Me, mom! Me, mom! Me, mom! Me, mom! Yeah, the next pieces, that was knockdown, drag out fight. Just like Scotty Shepler this weekend. Me, mom!

Shout out to First Responders, Ms. Maxie! First Responders, give them the tickets. Me, mom! Oh, man. That's it. Jerry, Yeah. Have you had any moments? My last question? I'll do it right now. Row back question. R H O P A C K. Who can use our child? It's a crazy seller. Probo code take 20% off your first purchase. Was there ever a moment in the last couple of weeks where Mr. Bing Bong kind of slipped out while you're with your family and your family looked at you like, what the fuck are you doing right now, dude?

No, but no, I just, I gotta tell you, I, Mr. Bing Bong has woken up something inside of me. I just, I'm a different man. I just find myself like, if someone tries to like, like if you're merging onto traffic and like that second car tries to merge, I'm like, it's just, I got to tell you, everybody needs a little Bing Bong-bong. Yeah in their lives Everybody and I just want to say, you know, I'm gonna put mr. Bing-bong to sleep and Hank Maybe you should take another trip down to Dallas Let's see those toes, Tiffany. I always think that Mr. Bing Bong

might play better as a loser. Like you're out, but you're still talking shit to everybody. Yeah, yeah. I am a loser, what do you want? I'm like cowering in a corner of a teenage girls volleyball gym. I'm gonna lie to my whole family. I have to change into my Nick's Jersey

every time I come onto your podcast and go back into my, my, uh, my Apollo. I mean, what do you want? Yeah. Mr. Bing Bong is. All right. Well, well, Jerry, we love Mr. Bing Bong has been a great playoffs with you. Um, any last words for Hank or Max? Yeah. Good luck in the post season. Thank Hank. I mean, I guess we're all getting ready for tonight's game. I haven't even looked at the score. Have they started playing yet? Yeah, it's halftime.

What's the score? 53-38, Nuggets. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, look, I mean, I understand fan bases and all that stuff, but look, this is a football podcast. Um, and like now, like, let's get the grit week. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we get all of Hanks. Hot, hot Celtic sticks. Oh, let's hear those hot sticks. Thank you. Yeah. By the way, Jerry, we have not, we have not planned grit week yet, but there's, we've had some preliminary

planning. There's maybe a chance that you'll be on the RV with us for a little bit. Maybe we'll be so much. That would be so much fun. And if you do come out to like Oxnard or whatever to come see the Cowboys or the Rams practice out here in Thousand Oaks, I know you guys are always looking for a place to watch hard knocks come over to my house. Yeah, unless unless my wife was there and it's 90 day fiance night, then we have to watch 90 day. Sorry. But today it was really tough. We're watching hacks, which is a great show. It's a really wonderful show streaming about a female comedian and a younger female comedian. And it's very funny. So I got two quarters of the next game, but I was watching it for my wife and it was a

really good game. I highly suggest it. If you're looking for someone to watch with the family, it's fun. A lot of fun, strong females. All right, Jerry, we have to, we have to do hard knocks with you. Yeah, we'll do hard knocks. We'll build a whole trip around hard knocks with Jerry. All right. One last time. One last time, Hanky. Yeah. And you

know what? I want to hear Hanky say it. It feels so good to see it, Hanky. Say it. Bing bong! Here you go! Feel the power of the bing bong, Hanky! Feel the power! Okay, I gotta get out of here before my kids disown me. Bing! Jerry was brought to you by Chevy. As everyone knows, this is a Chevy truck podcast.

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Congratulations to Stephen Curry on winning his second PBWA Magic Johnson, oh, there it is, a Magic Johnson Award, honoring a player who displays cooperation and grace in dealing with the media and fans, both on and off the court. By the way, Steph Curry, I had fun hanging out with your mom last night at the Sparks home opener.

Oh, magic is. Was that like a test to see how he handles the media? Dude, he's so like sweet and sincere. How can you say that part? I had fun hanging out with your mom. That was like a Marlins man tweet. Oh my God.

Is mom so single? I believe so Magic had a lot of fun hanging out with her By the way Steph Curry I had fun hanging out with your mom last night at Sparks home opener Is there any person any public figure? I'm gonna be very delicate with how I say this okay any public figure in America? That you would less like to see that tweet from than Magic Johnson about your mom. Does Nicky Smokes count as public?

I know public not pubic. Yeah. Magic Johnson would be a tough one. That'd be really tough. It'd be a tough one. It'd be a tough one. Hmm. Hmm.

Yeah, I think that's probably it. I think that's it. I think it's gotta be magic. I also had, I didn't even read this article, but we can just do a read a headline and just go off of it. Uh, the New York Post, uh, posted something called the Gouda bad and ugly NYC law student addicted to cheese went to nearly $6,000 per week rehab. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Going to cheese rehab. Cheese rehab? Yeah. What is cheese rehab?

I don't know. A treadmill? Max, have you gotten your cheese by the way? I have not. Okay. Oh, Max, speaking of cheese. Oh yeah. We have something in here. The Grater? The Grater. Or the slicer? It's a bad, yeah. This bad boy is an industrial strength cheese the the slicer is a bad yeah this bad boy is a

industrial strength cheese and meat slicer is that is actually in here yes it's this right there giant box right here I should come open it open it yeah open it up either way I do Oh Max my ping-pong ball I terrible shooting by me we're done with that no longer gonna give up this is last week yeah this is the last week I have a story I'm not sure if I should share it on the podcast. Okay. I guess give it a try. We'll give it we'll take it for a spin. You guys ever sleepwalk? Yeah, all the time. Thank you for sleepwalk. It's a weird sensation. Talk. Yeah, you do sleep talk. You sleep a lot. Yeah. If Hanks walked into sleep, he'd in great shape. Are you asleep right now? No. Okay. All right so

so Friday night. Imagine if Hank was like yeah actually. Friday night I stayed in a hotel. Okay. I'm in DC right and I go to bed at about I think 1230 1 a.m. A couple cocktails. I had a couple cocktails, nothing big, nothing too serious. But I wake up and I find myself in the hallway of my hotel in my underwear. And nothing but my underwear. And then I have to figure out where I am, what I'm doing there. I go to my door, I obviously don't have my key on me to get back in So I have to walk down To the lobby. I'm on the first floor. I walk I poke my head around the corner and I asked the people in the lobby

Hey, I locked myself out of my room. They're like no problem. They get the the whatever custodian or custodian yeah, yeah whatever custodian or maintenance guy. Custodian, yeah, yeah. Maintenance guy. Did they just make you a new key? Yeah, what are you talking about? No, he has a master key.

Okay. So he... But they could have just given you another key. Well, I didn't... You're staying in like a bed and breakfast with old school keys? No, it was like a master, like the thing that he held up opened every door. The custodian key. Yeah, the master electronic key.

Yeah. So he takes me back and the reason I didn't go to the front desk was because I'm in my underwear. I didn't want to like be down at the front desk of my underwear. So I got it. The guy walks me back, lets me into my hotel room. I thank him. I apologize.

I go back to sleep. Two hours later, I wake up and I'm in the hallway again. Oh no. In my underwear. I'm in the hallway again. Oh, no in my underwear You gotta lock yourself in and I'm locked I'm locked out of my hotel room for the second time in about three hours Yeah, and I'm like what the hell is going on right now. I Have to do the exact same thing and walk down. You're like hey, I did it again They get the janitor excuse me custodian and he walks me back and he's like, so a second time what's going on? I was like, I honestly, I have no idea. And then I got back in and

when I went back in the second time, I latched the door that said the deadbolt. Yes, that whole thing. Both times I think I was trying to find the bathroom because I had to go pee. And I just went out that makes sense front door of my hotel. Have you slept walk before? Yeah, but it's been years. Yeah. so I sleep walk usually when I'm very overtired I've done that once I lock the door every time I go to a hotel room for that exact reason. I'm gonna start doing that Yeah I you it's gotten better. It used to be like I would end up like, you know Like in different parts of my house now

It's more just like I I get up and I like kind of walk around and like just mumble. Yeah, what I was like, what are you doing? She said that I like, we'll like talk about like, especially during football season when we don't sleep. Like, I'll be talking about games and stuff. But yeah, it's a weird feeling. It might be from lack of sleep. I didn't sleep a lot on Wednesday. Yeah, always when I when I when I don't sleep, I I talk a lot. And then every now now I I walk probably like once every couple months Yeah, the first time I woke up in the hallway I was standing at my door looking at my door and as you're fading back into consciousness

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what to do. I started knocking on my own hotel. Oh, yeah I was like, please let me in me the It's good good that you you sound very similar to what I do in that I've never put myself in real harm's way because I know that that's a real thing. Some people will be walking in the street and shit. Yeah. I never really get past the first or second door.

Yeah, I was in the hallway and immediately that's when I was like, wait, this isn't right. That's fucking wild though. This isn't. Two times? And I did it twice hallway and immediately that's when I was like wait, this isn't right. That's fucking wild This is two times twice. Yeah, that's crazy the second time I in there I was just like so freaked out the second time that you let me back in I'm like lock all this shit up Yeah, don't let me do this again me Yeah I sometimes will put like stuff in front of my if I know that I'm really over tired like especially on the road

I'll put stuff like booby trap my own door. Yeah, so like I'm gonna do that Yeah, cuz you know like oh if I kick this bag it'll be like what the fuck. Yep That's crazy though two times two times out the custodian because custodian janitor maintenance guy. I like custodian We gotta bring that word awesome guy Max the cheese slicer asking man handled by this. Yeah, yeah again. What is going on here? Don't break it now. You're just gonna try to be a man about it, and it's gonna go poorly Max you're gonna have to start slicing all our cheese now though I'm gonna start bringing you blocks of cheese. I like I like it really you really thin max

Don't worry about it. It was a spur-of-the-moment purchase. It was a spur-of-the-moment purchase that I instantly regretted. Oh I think it's great shit. Yeah right here in the middle We're gonna we're gonna have you on Wednesday show you're gonna have to cut some cheese for us Yeah, and if mr. Pear doesn't turn his shit around We got a guillotine. This is awesome Max. You got to clean this dude. Oh This is great. Yeah, you can slice anything you want on that What about a bet Yeah, that's what you should use for your pinky bet All right, Max you're set to go big boy Kind of a fat move to have your own cheese slicer.

What a fat ass. Yeah, this fat ass has this cheese slice that we forced him to have. We should just start buying Max like a moo moo. A life alert. Like Max max damn dude is your military grade sleep apnea max you have no shame All right, let's do numbers. I owe max mine out mine will be 28 3 56 is max is 46 99 pug 21 96. 99, pug. 21. Mavs, you wanna say anything about me blocking the shit out of you on Friday? Blind squirrel finds a nut. Oh yeah, and then you got upset, pushed me. 78.

78. 78. Whoa! Love you guys. What, what was that was that what are you pointing at Max? He hit the TV. God damn it Hank go back to sleep. Bing bong oh wait shout out uh fuck do another love you guys shout out uh shit Jerry we finished taping with Jerry and we were watching the Nuggets Wolves game eating dinner and he's like hey Can I come back on I was like no Jerry?

He's like I forgot one I was like just tell me Jerry and I'll say it shout out Ryan Shout out Ryan love you guys I don't know what I'm about to say, I'll say it anyway. Today is a marvelous day to find you. Shine, I'll be coming for your love of three. Shine, I'll be coming for your love of a big day Come on, take on me Take on me

Take me on Take on me I'll keep going You'll take on me Something needless to say I won't say it, but I'll be somewhere in a way So learn to learn and my life is okay Say it after me, it's for better to be safe than sorry

Say it after me, it's for better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take on me. Take on me. Take on me. I'll keep you going. You don't have to know too long. I'm too old The things that I say, yeah, is it love? Just to play my word, we're in the way

You're all the things I've got to remember Are you shy and all in? Well, I'll be good for you anyway Are you shy and all in? Well, I'll be with you anyway When you shine and I I'll be with you anyway Take on me Take on me Take me

Take on me Take on me Take on me take on me Take me on I'll be your winner, take on me