Pardon My Take - Raiders QB Brian Hoyer, CFB, MNF Doubleheader, 1 Question With Sam Howell And Jimbo’s
Episode Date: September 20, 2023Monday Night Football doubleheader and it’s gotten bad in Cleveland for Deshaun plus the horrible injury to Nick Chubb. Steelers offense stinks and the Panthers/Saints played a boring ass game (00:0...0:00-00:22:34). College Football talk and is Bama cooked (00:22:34-00:40:21)? Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the new Rays stadium and Lauren Boebert follow up (00:40:21-00:57:34). Brian Hoyer joins the show to talk about his career, what makes a great backup, his chances at starting, winning a SB, Ernie Adams, and tons more (00:57:34-01:42:44). 1 question with a QB Sam Howell (01:42:44-01:51:54) and then we finish with Jimbo’s (01:51:54-02:01:14).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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We're also going to bring back one question with the quarterback,
maybe not every week, but when we see fit,
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We're going to talk some college football.
We're going to talk the double header Monday night football.
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He let's. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, September 20th.
And boys, uh, there's a chance that Aaron Rogers
is having a better year than to Sean Watson. I don't think so. Big bad. He got his Achilles
torn. Yeah, but Sean Watson is very bad. He was so bad. Baker may feel the smiling. He
was bad. The first interception wasn't this fall. Uh, yeah, that's probably fair. He
was so bad. Hank and baker may feel the smiling
baker may feel it is so happy to see this
they ran out of town in cleveland
i've been saying ever since baker got that raw deal
that they they didn't know what they had when they had baker when you're the
browns
you got to be happy sometimes with having a serviceable quarterback
and they thought that they could go ahead and and break the structure
of the NFL salary cap and give
a sex predator two240 million guaranteed.
Not working out so well for the brown.
So I have some stats for you.
Sean Watson out of the 35 quarterbacks with 200 passing attempts since the start of 2022.
So he played half of the year last year, played two games this year so far.
He's 33rd in yards per attempt, just below Carson Wens. He's 33rd in pass or
rating.
Just below Davis Mills. 34th and sac rate, 34th in completion percentage, 30th and success
rate. By any measure, he is one of the worst quarterbacks right now. Obviously, he is,
he's shown that he can play quarterback in NFL. he's he has a resume that if you can get back to that it's worth the investment
But as we're sitting here to Sean Watson it is it's ugly
He also might have created a burner account after the game. I know I saw that. I did see the screen shots of that
Yeah, that rule so allegedly from to Sean
I think it was called the Twitter account was like gainsville raised or something like that
All the tweets that he had were about to Sean Watson,
replying to people who were applying to tweets
about the Browns game, saying not his fault,
he doesn't call the plays, not his fault,
give to Sean Time still one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
So he might be out there still standing up for himself.
He's the last person that believes in to Sean Watson.
Yes.
Now I do feel for Browns fans, I feel like,
I like Browns fans. I really do. And
it's a disaster. I want them. I want them to be happy. They've been just a dismal franchise
for a long time. But to Sean Watts and I'm it's it's ridiculous how poorly he's played
since he's come back. And then you had obviously the Nick Chubb injury, which was I don't know.
Nick Chubb is probably like one of the
most like guys I feel like.
No one, even if you're not a Browns fan, you love watching Nick Chubb play football.
And that sucked so bad because his knee, well, she after trying to do bus, she after reported
about his knee injury from 2015 and phrase it in a way where you read the first part of
the tweet and you're like, oh, they already diagnosed it.
He tore everything in his knee.
He probably, or he probably did tear everything in his knee,
but Shephther was doing that for clicks.
He got some good engagement on that.
Like a real NFL fan, I keep Shephther notifications
on during the season.
So it popped up on my phone,
I had the dot, dot, dots afterwards.
So it said, Nick Chubb, Tours, LCL, PCL, ACL, MCL,
card-ledged damage.
And then dot, dot, dot. And then I opened
it up. And there was in 2015 in the game against Edison in a game against Nancy. We'll see
if he can recover from this one. It's never a good sign when you're running back hurts
himself and Willis McGay he starts trending on Twitter. Yes. That's that's that's a big
sign that something's wrong. It's also crazy. They didn't show the replay. Yeah. So we
that's insane. They showed
us tomorrow, Hamlin dying on a field. So when it happened, Joe Buck was like, and I'm
being told that we're not going to show the replay. It's that bad. As Joe Buck saying
that you hear the crowd reaction in Pittsburgh to them seeing the replay live. And to me,
that was almost worse than watching the replay because you hear that. And it's a bunch of
Pittsburgh fans who want Nick Chubb out of the game. They don't want him injured, but they obviously don't want to see
him scoring touchdowns against them. And the entire crowd in Pittsburgh is just like,
Oh, dear God, what did I just see? So what do we have to do? We're basically entrap
them to going online and looking for the replay. And it was not really. It was not
I don't understand what when did they start doing that? What when do they say that's
ridiculous. Your job is tele tell a cast the game.
You can maybe put a warning before it,
but like, it's not like I was like,
oh, I want to see how bad it is,
but like, you watched the game.
Well, I kind of did, because it was crazy to see.
Well, when Joe Buck says, it's so bad,
we're not going to show it to you.
That's like your parents being like,
no, you're not allowed to watch this movie.
It's great.
It's great.
And then I'm like, wow, Braveheart's awesome.
Yeah, we can't wait until I go to my friends house.
I'm gonna watch Braveheart.
Yeah, it was show the show the injury.
Show it once, your job is to telecast the game.
It's a pretty important thing that happened in the game
because the Browns were moving the ball.
Nick Chubb had like 60 yards in a quarter and a half.
So, but yeah, that was about as bad as you could get
for a Monday Night Football game for the Browns.
If you're a Steelers fan, you're happy that you got the win.
Congrats on that.
You're happy for TJ for breaking the sack record.
Getting that touchdown, that was awesome, Hank.
That probably brought up some bad memories for you.
See, TJ won.
You got touched a lot of tweets.
It was so funny when Hank did that the first time.
The best.
And Nick was like, wait, it says here, Derek Watt.
Derek Watt.
And then all the blood drains out of her poor, Hank's face.
But you're probably happy if you're a Steelers fan,
you got TJ broke the record, you got to win,
you beat a division rival, the streak stays intact.
21, they haven't lost in Monday night football since 1991.
At home.
At home.
At home.
It's wild.
21 straight home Monday night football.
Crazy streak, but you're also like,
I fucking
hate our offense coordinator. And I hope that he falls into a river on the way home because
they were. So the Pittsburgh Steelers at the start of the fourth quarter, they were losing
22 to 19. They gained negative seven total yards in the in the fourth quarter. And they
won the game 26 to 22. It was it was basically like you were watching the game being like the
Steelers should punt on first down because the best chance they have of scoring is to get
Jisambh Watson to fumble again. Yeah. That was how it felt. Their their defensive line was
absolutely eating. They were everywhere, but that their offense and that third and one
call. I don't know what maybe it was, you know, a broken play, but Kenny on a keeper on
third and one out. I think out of the shotgun. And there were, yeah, there was the worst
play call ever. There was misdirection. And then it ended up having like three defensive
linemen in the backfield at the same time, smashing him made no sense. They didn't run
a play inside the Browns 30 yard line. Yeah. That's pretty bad. So Browns fans, at least
you have week one. Week one.
Week one was a great win to beat the Bengals.
You killed them, you smashed them, all the hopes.
And then it just week two, it feels like their season obviously isn't over, but that losing
Nick Chubb, it's devastating.
It's as bad as it gets.
And yes, you did get hoes on a pass interference on the final play of the game
But the ball was a shitty pass from Dishon. Yeah, he wasn't gonna catch it
If it was close they would have called it. Yeah, we also had the Saints in the Panthers playing Monday night football
It actually was so too too Monday night football games where I got one more thing about the the Steelers game
Okay
Did you notice they did double renegade? They I did not they did double renegade which they rarely do at Steelers games
It's like once a season they'll break out a double renegade. They brought it out and
I think it was the next play it might have been the second play after double renegade was played
TJ what got the scoop and score for the touchdown. Yeah double renegade works. It's legit renegade works
They did that when I went to the Monday football game last year two years ago Steelers bears and they did Renegade and it was immediate fumble for the bears. Yeah, it's magic
It's it's how they keep their streak intact. Yeah, but yeah, it does feel like the Steelers are gonna just be a perfect
Mike Tomlin team that they won't go under 500
But probably also won't make the playoffs. Yeah, and if I'm a Steelers fan. I just I
Wake up wondering what has Matt Canada done to stick around?
Matt Canada sucked when he was at Wisconsin. He sucked forever.
Yeah.
He's been bad everywhere he's gone and for some reason he keeps getting jobs.
It's probably super nice.
Yeah. Yeah, he probably is super nice.
Sorry, sorry.
Sorry about that third downplay.
So yeah, the other game.
It's a problem.
No, probably in this, in this example. He is
You probably they probably gave him the nickname Matt Canada because he was weakened inefficient but super nice
The other game so it was the double header
It was kind of crazy because it was like two games. Oh, there's gonna be awesome two-month-old football games when both games just
Kind of sucked in their own special ways
I I do actually think that on a double header,
Kenny Pickett, the Sean Watson,
Bryce Young, Derek Carr.
I think Tase and Hill was the best quarterback.
Tase and Hill look pretty good.
He looks really good.
And yeah, the Panthers, we said it was Steve Smith.
They're just, it's not a Bryce Young thing.
It's like there's no one who's getting separation.
Adam Thielin is trying to make moves
and he has no time. And I can't really judge what I'm seeing because it's not easy for him.
The one thing I didn't like about Bryce is he doesn't realize yet that defensive players
are fast. So he tries to scramble out a pocket to lot and uses legs to just buy some time,
keep looking down field and he was just getting hit left and right.
Sean does that too. Yeah, you can just run away and just get killed.
You get hit from behind. You're like, how'd that guy catch up to me?
That didn't happen in Alabama. Yeah. But the Saints, the Saints and Panthers,
I mean, that was a very boring game.
Derek Carr had a terrible interception. Yes, he did.
It was actually a lecture. I bet every quarterback to throw an interception.
Bryson was the one who didn't. Oh, really?
Yeah.
Everyone else threw an interception.
Yeah, there was one point where it was like four turnovers.
Both games had double turnovers going on
within probably like a five minute span.
Yeah.
It was like, why am I watching this?
Oh yeah, because it's football.
It's football and we watch it.
Yeah.
And Andy Dalton got to come in for a sneak.
That was kind of exciting.
Andy Dalton and Josh McCowns standing next
to each other, all-hair team. Yeah. That was kind of exciting. Andy Dalton and Josh MacKown standing next to each other, all hair team.
Yeah.
That was a big moment.
But yeah, that game, I guess it's better
that there was a double header,
although I still, and this is for people
who have more than one TV, the ESPN,
or sorry, one game was on ESPN,
one game was on ABC or ESPN too.
They-
ABC and ESPN.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah sounding, but it was the score changed. I looked down, George Pickens caught the ball.
I was like, well, this is going to the house.
Yeah.
And George Pickens is such a psycho, I love him.
I do think he's the perfect amount of insane.
When he tried to jump, when he tried to hurtle someone for note,
like the guy was standing upright.
He was like, I'm just gonna jump into you.
And actually kind of worked for him after he won.
Yeah.
Because the guy was like, what was that move?
It was, the guy, like tried to catch him because he, it was like a dance move. It was like on it. Yeah, because the guy was like, what was that move? The guy tried to catch him because it was like a dance move.
It was like flash dance.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll catch you and I'll spin you around, George.
He didn't try and jump.
He didn't try and hurdle.
Right.
Like he didn't lose his balance.
He just jumped up in the air.
Right.
You know what, he gets the zoom.
He's got to sec.
He gets the zoomies.
You need to get him the ball because he's gonna freak
if he doesn't get the ball.
Yeah. And the Steelers also, they're often just look so slow.
Naji Harris, I don't know why he got so slow. I don't know. It's painful.
Was he watch how slow? Was he always this slow? No, he was not that slow at Alabama.
He wasn't like a burner. Yeah, but he wasn't that slow. I feel like in the NFL, even
his rookie year, his great plays were jumping over people, which he loves to do.
And then like running into somebody
and bowling them over for like three yards,
but he puts the guy in a poster.
Right.
But I don't think he was ever super fast in the NFL,
but he looks slower somehow and he's getting caught.
He's not able to break it to the,
if he bounces it to the outside, he's getting tackled.
Right.
And he had one play though.
There was one play where he got stopped in the back field and then ran around the
edge.
Can you pick it through an awesome block?
Mm-hmm.
Just really laid his shoulder into the guy.
But besides that, it's, yeah, it's painful to watch the Steelers offense.
And another thing, if I'm a Steelers fan, we got to do something about Mike Tomlin's
challenge situation.
Oh, he's so bad.
But I think it's so funny how bad he is.
It is.
It's very, very funny.
It feels like a bit at this point because they'll show the replay.
Wait, he did win one though.
No, I don't think that was an actual challenge.
They didn't, they didn't, that is a foul.
Oh, it's so fun.
I think he tried to challenge it,
but it was already overturned.
Got it.
So he should get credit for that.
He would have gotten that one right.
Yeah, he should get credit for that.
But the play was at the,
Marri Cooper catch.
Yes.
And he threw the flag after they just showed the replay
and, and Troy,
and it was like, that's just a great catch by Marri Cooper.
Yeah.
And you saw the two feet down.
Mike Tomlin is not watching the same game.
Whoever, does he have a challenge guy?
Or I think his challenge guy is his players.
And his players, a defensive back,
will always, like, run up to you like,
that guy didn't catch it.
There's no way that guy got to catch on me.
I like how he challenges though,
because he challenges how any of us would challenge
is just pure frustration.
So it's not like, it's a 50-50 call,
we gotta go look at it, it's, fuck,
how'd we give up that long, third down?
This is a legal challenge.
Yeah, I wish that-
That's exactly how I would challenge the NFL.
He does, I wish that play didn't happen.
Right, can we just-
Re-view.
There's a mechanism in the NFL
where you can eliminate a play.
I don't care about what the rules are behind it.
I'm just gonna throw the flag that makes the play go back.
He's constantly doing like basketball, just check ball,
check ball atop.
Yeah. Let's reset this.
It's so bad. It's not fair.
It's not fair. What happened?
We've talked about it on the show,
but there should be like NFL coaches aren't great at watching
football. They don't watch enough, they watch film,
but they don't watch football on TV from the angles that we watch.
Right.
We're better at knowing when you should throw the challenge flag
than NFL coaches are. Right. If there's somebody out there that just spends all day
Sunday, all night Monday, all night Thursday, all day Saturday watching football, you are
better at knowing when to challenge a call is than an actual NFL head coach. It's Malcolm
Gladwell, 10,000 hours. I've watched more football than an NFL head coach. We're actually
I it's not like a brag. You think you don't think so Hank. No, but we're talking about football the actual game
Yeah, we've watched more football right and that's and that's when you're making the decisions not again
Like PFT said it's not film like how do I beat this defense?
Obviously coaches are way better than that at us, but we're talking about actual game footage
Brock when the chat. Yeah, like the NBC at angle where they zoom in real tight coaches. Don't know what that is
No idea. They don't even know the yellow line. They don't know the green zone. Yeah, they don't know the pylon cam
I don't know the sky cam. I had to correct Jerry last night the yellow line's not official because he was like look
I was like dude to be not official to be fair to Jerry
They'd never say that on the gas. They used to when they when they first on
Well, they don't say it as much anymore.
The first one bill that they said all the time.
Yeah, yeah, it was like man.
They need to send a reminder to everyone,
yellow line not official.
I think anybody that watches football
knows that the yellow line's not official.
Yeah, but it gets confusing sometimes.
You watch too much football.
So you know,
Rich Eisen's Twitter bio.
What?
The yellow line's unofficial.
He is.
That's a good one, Rich.
That's a fucking good one.
That's he got us there. All right, let's talk
What no, I was gonna make a joke, but I'm not gonna say the joke. You might as well say it now. No, you guys
Somebody will know what the joke was
Okay, it was gonna be a cheap shot at Hank and his quarterback. Oh
Go ahead just do when Mac Jones is driving on the roads the L lines not official
There's no yeah, I had a couple cocktails. He needs a lighthouse to find a way to get home
Speaking the lighthouse
lighthouse talk
Hank I
I reached out someone so we invited us to the lighthouse. Yeah, we should go I
Burn it down I got a multiple invites
Can we podcast like the Ramsey USF of the one of the lighthouse?
I'm talking about the fucking lighthouse.
Listen, we'll stop talking about the lighthouse
when Hank stops bringing it up every show.
Yes, I'll bring it up.
Chuck Delox, Andrew, for inviting us.
Hank, since you brought it up,
I do have a lighthouse update for you.
I didn't bring it up.
You did bring it up.
You did bring it up.
I reached out to the United States Coast Guard.
You already did this.
Well, I heard back from the Coast Guard active. Yes, the active would
you mean active? Are you looking at this guys credentials? Well, somebody's retired guys just you know start spouting off his
Beers. He's just to get in the media Hank. He is a commander current current commander. Absolutely. All right. Yeah, no
Commander Matt Crowell director US Coast Guard motion picture and television liaison office. Okay, so this is All right, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no lighthouse my name is pft comms or not to the part of my take sports podcast for barstall sports i'm writing to you concerning a matter of public debate surrounding
lighthouses
which i understand fall under the purviews united states course
coast guard recently a dispute has emerged regarding the legitimacy of the new
two hundred eight foot tall
quote lighthouse that was constructed at your let's stadium it was built to
replace the old lighthouse
which was rendered obsolete due to being completely blocked out by the stadium's new jumbo tron.
On one side of the debate are Patriots fans who claim that this is the tallest lighthouse
in the United States.
The team has made numerous public statements to that regard, and many supporters of the
organization believe it to be true.
On the other side of the debate are those who recognize the Cape Hatteras lighthouse as
being the tallest US lighthouse, and if the Gillette Stadium lighthouse qualifies as being the tallest, we must then acknowledge
that Lady Liberty herself, which actually functioned at one time as a lighthouse, would be the
rightful holder of the title.
As she stands nearly 100 feet taller than the Gillette Stadium structure.
And is on water.
I wanted to ask for the Coast Guard's official opinion on the matter given the public discourse
surrounding the claims.
Publications of note, such as the sports sports business journal have taken to regurgitating the
Gillette Stadium press releases and backing their claims.
As you can imagine, this has led to a lot of confusion.
Commander Kohl writes back, good morning.
Thank you for reaching out.
I attached our lighthouse fact sheet that should help answer some of your questions.
It clearly lists Cape Hatteras as the tallest, which refers to the total length
of the structure itself. This is why the Statue of Liberty at 151 feet without her pedestal
would not be considered the tallest. Cape Mendozino is actually the highest above sea level at 515.
I hope your listeners enjoy these lighthouse facts and please let me know if you have any additional
questions. I did. Per the United States Coast Guard, the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse
is the official tallest lighthouse in the United States.
Not your fucked up frugaisy piece of bullshit.
Well, I don't know when do they update those records.
Maybe it's like a-
Not today, because the guy wrote me back.
No, but like maybe it's like that's, you know,
like old madden games.
I don't know how to eat, like old madden games.
Like old madden games.
I don't know how to reply and say,
are these updated as of today?
I asked him the question on Saturday,
he wrote me back yesterday.
But it is a very new lighthouse.
Yeah, but it is a general guideline.
No, he says,
what's the, what's the,
do you open the attachment?
I did open the attachment.
That seems like you're seeing that maybe he needs to be updated.
Yeah, it's like a madden game.
I don't have to reply until the next year for an updated roster.
You have to, you gotta reply and we gotta update
the people on Friday.
Tallest lighthouse, Cape Hatteras, North Carolina.
That's a fact.
Just reply and be like, is this current as of today, September 20th?
Okay.
And then on Friday, we'll let everyone know when we do our lighthouse segment.
I just thought that was interesting.
That the Coast Guard itself says that you're one guy from the the director of television the command
He's a commander commander show some fucking respect hang so your lighthouse is stolen valor. No, it's not it is
No, it's not you're claiming that it's a lighthouse when in fact and you're also claiming it's the tallest lighthouse
It is the toss. All right. Well, we'll find out we'll find out when we do the follow up
I'm happy we have to make some calls. No, not now that I know
You got a house guy, who you're gonna call?
You got a lighthouse guy.
Oh, okay.
Are they commanders?
Yeah, probably.
Are you bring your facts in P.H.T.
You bring your facts off?
Yeah, I love a fact off.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is everything higher than commander?
General?
I don't know.
Chief of staff?
I don't know.
Commander, you a general?
Yeah.
I don't think the Coast Guard has generals do that. I don't know. Commander, you a general? Yeah. I don't think the Coast Guard has generals do that.
I don't know.
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Let's start with the only way you can start. Alabama is washed. Alabama is so washed.
Done. Nick Sabin is so bad at coaching football big cat. He is one of the worst football
coaches in college. Did you see the video of Nick Sabin coming,
because they had, so they played USF,
there was a weather delay,
and they were coming into the locker room,
it was just pouring on them,
and they were coming into the locker room,
and there was like maybe a three second video
of Nick Sabin walking the locker room,
wet, tired, sad,
and that was the first time where I was like, oh,
Nick Sabin, like, their thoughts might creep in. Like, why the fuck am I doing this right
now?
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless Nick Sabin is a type of a hyper competitive
coach where he wants to put together a solid season without having a good quarterback
at all.
Yeah. So Jalen Millrose back to being the starter. it does feel different than the past times that Alabama
has put on quote, been down because even like when you look at, I think the last time
they were outside of the top 10 was maybe 2015 and I believe they won a national title
here.
So like every time you look for Alabama stat, that's like, ooh, Alabama trending down.
It's like, well, then they won a national title
within a year of that.
Yeah, it doesn't look good though.
Like I don't see a way that they climb out
into contention in the SEC with the current roster
that they have, with this current program
that they have in place right now.
He'll probably get like a beast of a quarterback next year.
They'll be fine.
Cause it's not like Nick Saban stopped recruiting
elite defensive players and elite skill positions
No, it's not a lot of it's alignment
It they're probably actually one piece away and they also the craziest part is it's I think that we're so used to Alabama
Obviously being so dominant
It's not that they they have quarterbacks that are if you look at them
They're all top recruits and they're guys that were heralded coming out of high school.
It just hasn't translated.
So Jalen Milrose back to being the starter.
I actually think that's the right move
because at least with Jalen Milrose,
even though the throwing is not really there,
you can at least make explosive plays running.
The question just occurred to me, Big Cat.
Did we Texas' back herself?
The same way that we Texas' backed herself back in like 2017?
When they beat when they beat down. Yeah, they beat it down. Well Texas struggles Wyoming. Yeah, I know
I mean they ended up winning by like 28 but the fourth quarter
I think we might have backed ourselves into a corner on that because everyone thought that this was like a huge win against an elite program
That's going to dominate this year, maybe not win a national championship, but at least be relatively Alabama-like. And they win a big game, primetime, everybody's
watching it. And then they go, they struggle the next week. Now I'm starting to doubt my entire
Texas is going to make the college football playoff take. Well, it feels like this college football season,
I hope I'm right, because these are the best college football seasons.
No one's really that good because you had also Georgia struggling with South
Carolina in the first half. I think Georgia is still very, very good.
Don't get me wrong, but because their schedule is so weak,
we're going to be able to say who have they played all year long.
You know, Michigan has not played a team yet.
They've just been rolling through people.
You saw Oregon struggle at Texas Tech.
Washington actually has been dominant.
But like, maybe everyone is,
there's a lot of really good teams,
but no superpower team.
Which I love.
That's the best college football.
I love it.
It's gonna be chaos, don't stretch.
I can't wait for it.
I think that, I think Alabama is gonna be good,
but I am concerned about the fact that Texas may
have beaten a fraudulent Alabama team.
We'll find out this week.
And now we're going to find out.
This weekend schedule is so awesome.
But before we get to this weekend, there is a very important update that we have to give
on Iowa's quest for 25 points per game.
I bet the team total over on Iowa.
Thinking in the back of my head, he's got a chance to rack up some points this week after
starting 20 points, 24 points.
They were only averaging 22 going into this weekend.
And then Brian Forens keeps his offense on the field.
They go for it on fourth down to try to, it also covered the spread, but also just gave
them meaningless points.
It was 41 to 10 as opposed to being 30, 40, 10.
So they cover the spread and they hit the team total over,
bringing their average up to a whopping 28.3 points per day.
He's good right now.
He's got to go to Happy Valley this weekend,
but he's sitting good as it stands right now.
Yeah, I mean, it is so funny that,
and I've seen some Iofans being like,
so let's stop talking about it.
It's like, you put it in his contract.
Yeah, it's a while.
It's like, same.
When the card was put in Kyloy Murray's contract,
hey, you have to watch actual film
and not play video games all the time.
We're gonna talk about it because it's there.
It's also a fun storyline to keep track of.
Yes, it is.
All right, so the other big story obviously is Colorado.
And we saw an electric atmosphere,
9.3 million people watched on Saturday night,
late kick off.
Colorado, Colorado state was such a fun game to watch.
It was like a game and then also a side show of
who can we interview on the sidelines and just,
you know, the late hits, the Travis Hunter who
heard her injured, Morgan and Morgan,
heard her injured, last rated liver.
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's,
no, it's injured.
No, I'm gonna say it's hurt.
I basically played from 26 until I was 35
with the last year of the equivalent of a last rated liver.
I show up to work every day, did this podcast.
It's not that big, the liver reheels itself.
It's amazing.
Basically Travis Hunters hung over.
Yeah, and so thank you to Morgan and Morgan, our wonderful sponsor, Hurt or Injured. not that big the liver reheels itself. It's amazing. Basically Travis Hunters hung over. Yeah.
So thank you to Morgan and Morgan, our wonderful sponsor,
Herder injured.
He had, he did a Twitch stream where he was dressed up as
King Roo Cheetah.
I don't know what he was dressed in.
He's wearing pajamas, giraffe pajamas.
Giraffe pajamas.
He had some, look like some anime pillows in the background.
He had a PlayStation controller pillow.
And he was like, I would have kept pillow.
It's so funny because he's like one of the best athletes
and it's kind of cool.
He's, I feel like he's gonna get big time sponsorships
just by being, whenever an athlete is also a nerd.
Yeah.
And it was like, what's this?
He's got a race car bed.
Yeah, but he said he would have kept playing
if it weren't for the doctors,
so thankfully the doctors are like, hey dude,
you have an internal injury that is very bad.
Yeah, that was a dirty ass hit that he took too on the sidelines.
So he had like three or four steps to prepare himself,
the safety did that was coming in,
three or four steps to pull up and then just lay it into him.
It was, it was, it was bad.
And I feel bad for Travis Hunter obviously.
That's a tough injury, especially when your coach
after you last rate, you'll deliver your coach.
It's like, yeah, he should be back in three to four weeks.
Three weeks, yeah.
I'd be like, let's just give it a couple of days
to see how it's doing before we say that.
I feel bad for him that he's going to have to sit out
that he's dealing with that injury.
But I also feel bad for us as college football fans
and we don't get to watch.
Yes.
And I also feel bad for the kid who obviously
was a late hit, dirty hit,
but it was kind of ridiculous.
Like, I guess by the time the game ended,
his phone number, his address,
his parents' phone number, his parents' address
have been leaked on the internet.
People were going pretty crazy at him.
Deon did a good job today of like,
you know, dampering that down by just being like,
what is everyone doing?
Like, we've made our piece
It was a dirty hit, but we can't like this is crazy
I also there were some people who were saying that he should be kicked out of the NCAA
I actually thought sir your germa jasty Jackson had the best take on it
He said you're all you're all doing too much now, bra terrible play
He should have been ejaculated.
As soon as I seen that hit, I would have ejaculated him.
But to say he needs to be banned from competing in college football ever again,
his crazy dog.
You're all acting soft as fuck.
I like that.
Take a lot because it takes all the like all the aggression out of him.
He's probably not going to do a dirty late hit.
Like if somebody was on the sidelines assigned to jack off,
Vanta is perfect. Yeah. In the middle of a game. of him. He's probably not going to do a dirty late hit like if somebody was on the sidelines assigned to jack off.
Volko.
Vanta is perfect.
Yeah.
Uh, in the middle of a game.
Antonia Brown would probably still be on the Steelers.
It also would have been embarrassing for him.
You'd have to come in front of everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a classic mix up.
Yeah.
Word sound similar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, the Colorado.
So I have a question for you guys.
I don't.
Obviously we are in a different position
because we know Dion personally.
Why is Dion getting so much hate?
I don't get it.
Is he getting hate?
I think people are rooting for Colorado to lose very badly
and I think they will lose against Oregon.
I don't know.
I don't feel like people are rooting for them to win.
Yeah, they're rooting for the most bad team.
Yeah.
No, I know the bets.
I'm saying though, people, it feels like a lot of people
want Colorado, like you had like Danny Canal,
which was very funny because Danny Canal went after Deon,
and then someone pointed out that the last pass,
Danny Canal through as a starter was a pick six to Deon.
Yeah.
And they're like, maybe this is why.
There's just, maybe I'm way off, but it is a very fun story.
I, you love in sports when someone talks to talk and then backs it up
I do think they'll probably lose the Oregon, but it's fucking it's it's the college football story in the first month
The I think maybe people are just fatigued with talking about Colorado. I don't know. I don't think they're way in they had the rock
I know no I know that so sick, but they whenever someone gets big the haters come out
I don't think they're downfall. I don't think they're out yet
I think it's still a fun story that most people are I think if they lose like
Oregon when the
When the advisor and or the guy that wears a visor norvel when he was like yeah
I take off my glasses my hat when I talk to adults. That's what my mom taught me everybody was like this guy fucked up
Yeah, I think people are rooting for Colorado to win because it's a fun story. And especially like you
can't you can talk about Dion, but also his players are pretty good. Like his son
is what legitimately one of the best quarterbacks in division one football.
And he's had what is this his, oh, is this second? His second come from behind
win in the fourth quarter? Yeah, 98 year drive. 98 year drive. He's legitimately
awesome. He's fun to watch. He seems like a nice guy. Deon, I think for the most part has been likable
Deon. He hasn't crossed that line where it's like, okay, Deon is now like being overcokey
making it too much about himself. That will probably happen at some point if they beat
Oregon, if they continue to win, then you'll get people rooting against him. But I feel
like for the most part, it's 90% of the love for Colorado.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of love.
I just, I guess I'm more just expecting
what's gonna happen.
Yeah.
They're frauds.
No, they're playing a really good Oregon team
in Austin Stadium.
It's gonna be a very difficult game.
If Deon was the coach of Florida State
and he was having a lot of success right off the bat,
I think people would be like, I'm sick of Deon.
I hope somebody beats him.
But the fact that it's Colorado
that has been so bad for so long.
And they just, I just saw it today,
they sold out the rest of their season in Boulder.
And it's the first time that it's ever happened.
And they probably did that before they realized
that the USC game is gonna be 10 AM local time.
Oh, that's thanks.
That's tough for college kids.
Yeah, they wanna get the the big new and kick off.
So 10 a.m. USC will be playing game clock 9 a.m. Yeah, we got to we got to think this okay. Danny was that's a given
That's like the free space in the center when you're oh so fun playing bingo like who what other college football
Pundit or media member will be the first to turn on Dion. Oh, I think it might be urban. Oh
I feel like I feel like early in my-
Well that's a coach to coach thing.
That's never stopped before.
Yeah, did the commercials.
He did a commercial.
He did a big save.
A savein.
Half-line.
Yeah.
Same guy.
Well, not the same guy.
Not the same guy.
But yeah, I'm Colorado's an awesome, awesome story to watch.
Yeah.
It's really all, like sometimes it's fun. I think what I'm Colorado's an awesome, awesome story to watch. Yeah. It's really all, like sometimes it's fun.
I think what I'm thinking about it is,
it's similar to like Conor McGregor,
when Conor McGregor would talk his shit
and then back it up over and over people loved it
and then when he loses, it's like, the avalanche comes.
Yeah.
So it's maybe like, I'm anticipating the avalanche,
but no matter what already Colorado seasons a success
They won one game last year. Yeah, I think it's gonna be Stanford Steve. I think Stanford Steve will be the first to turn on Dion
Yeah, that piece of shit
Yeah, we need to get him back on the show. Yeah, we do gotta get him back on the show
All right other college football stories that Penn State looks good max you ready for Iowa
Yeah, I think we're going to smoke Iowa.
Ooh, and Ohio State Notre Dame's going to be awesome on Saturday.
So many good games, so many good games.
I'm sorry, I have to fly on Saturday at some point and there's no good time to fly.
Yeah.
We also had my favorite quote of the week was from UTSA head coach Jeff Trailer.
After they lost, I believe it was Friday night.
He said, frustrating man, there's got to be an easier way to make a living somewhere coach Jeff Trailer after they lost. I believe it was Friday night.
He said, frustrating man,
there's got to be an easier way to make a living
somewhere else.
Yeah, that's good, that's good sound of confidence.
I like that.
You know, you know the season's going well,
you're like, what if I just,
what if I just did like mall security?
Didn't that guy also say like I missed the days
when kickers and punters could smoke cigarettes
and drink beer. Yeah, he's a good guy. Back when you could have fun in America. He's fun. Yeah, you can't spell nut sack without UTSA
That's what chaps taught me. That's a fact
But yeah, this weekend is gonna be awesome. I'm very very excited
And Colorado organ like I do think Oregon. I think Oregon is gonna win by a lot
Oh, I know what I want to say Hank you went to the Michigan State Bar. Yeah, Washington might be, I might have to put a future on Washington. They're so
electric. Washington looked really good. Michigan State.
It looked like 700 plus yards. PNX is good. Yeah. Michigan State has a quarterback that
can't throw and they can't tackle in defense. Those seem important. One of the worst
combinations you can have. It was tough. So what's next? How are the fans?
Real quick, give us a lowdown on,
what's the vibe like with Michigan State fans?
Oh yeah, do you get our Melt Tucker report?
Melt Tucker report is that they are
a number two preseason rank college basketball.
Oh, everyone just kept being like,
yeah, they just kept being like,
good report.
Our basketball team is gonna be sick.
That's like a don't worry about it.
Like we're in a great job of preseason rank number two.
Yeah. There was, I mean, there was a lot of people there. That's the good don't worry about it. Like we're in a great job. We're preseason rank number two.
There was, I mean, there was a lot of people there.
That's the crazy thing.
Even though the brasco was terrible,
Michigan State was terrible.
Like the people show up, they were expecting a win.
I thought it might happen and then they got 35 pieces in the first half.
Yeah, so who, what's this week in Iowa?
You going for shadows?
Yes.
I was thinking maybe Purdue.
On Friday night against Wisconsin, youer. Well, I got a I
You know what he's doing you mother good for you. No, thanks to teams have been on board. No, I think 7721
But Hank will find a way is hang the kiss of death if I do I would they're gonna lose if I do Penn State I
Can we do Penn State with Max.
Yeah.
I got some Penn State buddies coming to town this weekend.
Oh, and kisser could not come.
The kisser could not come.
You should do it.
It's Friday night.
Do it.
Yeah, but that's good for you, big guy.
Stop, Jake. He's gonna fucking, they're gonna win and he's gonna rub it in my face. Don't do it. do it. It's Friday night. Do it. Yeah, but that's good for you. Big time. Stop Jake. He's gonna fucking they're gonna win and he's gonna rub it
my face. Don't do it. Do it. What do I don't care? Hey question piece of
sh**. It would be good for the show if your boiler makers beat big cats
badgers. I don't want to be a boiler maker though, but I also don't know when to
do it. I don't know when else. I got out. You know, I got a big drum.
Purdue might be playing in Evanston.
You know, Armstrong.
Dude, dude, dude.
Why don't you just be Purdue on the road?
Why don't you just do Ohio State?
This is the game to get up for.
True.
Yeah.
True.
That would be the most electric atmosphere.
True.
Go with Mark and it's yeah, and it's a three point spread.
So you're not going to get blown out.
I think it's good call. Yeah, you
because you need to do mission if you became a buck I fan. Yeah, I would hate that.
That would actually be very funny. Just rolling around.
Duke Patriots cowboys. You can use the same, you can use the same gene shorts you have for the cowboys.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you should do that. That's a me know what I'm so excited for that game.
Let me see what produced schedule. I think they do play in Evanston. I
Think they might even play it. I think there's a game at rigley this year. Oh, yeah
Which would be fun. All right. Well, you your teams. Yeah, so far. What's the combines court? I think 7721
Oh, yikes
Double check that but we lost it. I mean then we all out the bar enough. You just like fuck this. What's your statement on Mel Tucker, Hank? Good
riddance. No, you number two and basketball number two.
That's what you talking about number two and basketball, dude. It's it's pretty
easy. Number two and basketball. I was playing at Northwestern at Rigley. That
would be fun. Maybe that should be Northwestern.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with you.
Rude on my wild cats.
My dukes one, you see that?
Yeah.
This should have been the Sun Belt Championship
from last year, the JME was not allowed to play in
because of antiquated NCAA rules.
But we went to Troy, we won 16-14 Utah State,
we take care of business, then maybe some people
are saying game day. Oh. Game day in Harrisonburg. We'll see game day.
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Hank, what's your hot seat in Chilter on?
My hot seat is the US military.
Oh.
You hate them.
Do we need the Coast Guard, this story?
Well, PFT, you can tell me, you know, F-35
or those how expensive is an F-35.
The top of my head, if they're on sale,
you can get one for 60 mil,
but they're probably like closer to 70, 80 mil.
Are they important?
They're very important, yeah,
to the future of electronic warfare.
Hey, did you guys hear this one?
Did you see this one?
The, uh, the US has lost, uh, over $100 million of jets
the last week.
Oh, zero Rogers and the new jet.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
So for a while, they, they, they have 35 lightning.
The F 35 lightning, they just lost it.
They said we don't know where it is.
And then it turns out that it crashed
and they're worried that it got hacked.
Oh, yeah.
How, I mean, I don't think it got hacked.
I mean, have you seen the inside of one of these things?
It's just poor, poor piloting.
It could have been, sounds like you don't respect the truth.
It could have been poor piloting.
It could have been, I saw one report that he might have flown it directly
into his storm, or she, probably she,
but then they had to bail out and eject
and the plane kept flying and it went like,
I don't know, 70 miles and crashed.
That's insane.
Yeah, it is insane.
It is crazy that we weren't able to find this plane
for like 24 hours.
The craziest part is that the military asked Americans for help.
Okay, okay.
My bad.
It used to be back in the day, back when the military, before it went woke, when we just
crashed a bomber that had a nuclear armed bomb on it into a swamp in North Carolina, and
then we just pretended it didn't happen for 40 years.
That's how we used to do things, back when men were men.
Now we crashed one F-35 and the government hops on Twitter.
And it's like, hey, can you help us track this thing down?
We don't want to work with the poor.
Anyone here who played crash?
Yeah, they basically, they crowdsourced looking
for an 80 million dollar for the future
of American warfare.
You hear a big boom on Saturday?
Yeah, so we've got, we found it.
I don't know, I don't know if it got hacked Hank.
There was one report that came out yesterday
at the Marine Corps issue guidance saying,
like, hey, we're grounding all these flights to do,
I guess just like safety prep and stuff.
And everyone's like, oh, they must be hacked.
I don't think they get hacked.
I don't think they got hacked.
China's sending weather balloons over here.
China.
China.
China.
Bring other weather balloons.
I'll shoot down a weather balloon, my eyes closed.
That was like you're like in the Chinese pockets.
Why?
Sounds like that's the thing got hacked.
Yeah.
How could you be a pilot and not look at the fucking weather?
I don't know.
Wasn't shot real.
I'm gonna take out the F-35 for a quick spin.
Hope it's not raining.
Maybe try to hack the weather.
Yeah.
And they made the storm.
You ever think of that, Hank?
That's true too.
I think that's more like you're just trying to, you know, rub wool weather. Yeah. And they made the stormy. Everybody think of that hang that's true to your but you're just try to you know, rubble over over how to
rub will help explain find its way home.
A pilot. No. Yeah. Pilot could call a lighthouse.
A lighthouse would have lighthouse. Yeah. If they had a real
lighthouse. Yeah.
Never get lost. Get some tall beacons.
Yeah.
I'm never gonna stop at the Lighthouse.
It makes you laugh every time.
All right, Hank, what's your chill?
We should go.
No, I think it's funnier if we never go.
Well, that's what I realized.
So I was thinking about it.
Why PFT keep talking about this lighthouse?
Why you bring it up?
You just brought it up.
And like it's like, we get invited.
We can go.
And then I remember PFT is too scared of high
That's why he hates it. It's like oh my god tall tall scary tall. Yeah, you're lashing out Hank
That's why I can tell why I hate this fucking win house much. I was like oh, yeah, it's tall
He's the better questions. Why do you keep bringing it up? I'm done. Okay, I'm done
We should go. Yeah. We should go.
Well, me and big catch would you fuck the white out the lighthouse?
Yeah
You've been too big it's too big. It's probably too big for me and one fit inside your children
My chill throne is
Chameleon okay, he said the reason that he kicked a field goal with two seconds left or three seconds left in the game down 10
was
To avoid getting Matthew Stafford hurt. Oh, yeah, it's tough. You get a lot of quarterback sort of kneel down
Did you see?
Did you see all so there's like we were thinking we're gonna, you know, get a downfield play and have enough time to kick a field goal
Get an on-site kick and then you know once we got down there
We just said let's kick the field goal.
Yeah.
Did you see also Revelle was like, I tried to join the Zoom for Sean McBlock.
Yeah, I got blocked.
Press conference, they didn't let me in.
Very suspicious for not letting a gambling reporter in.
It's like, hey, dude, Revelle, maybe you're just annoying.
Like that probably was it.
Yeah, sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one.
You're right.
I think with Revella, it's like, yeah, why do, why does everyone keep blocking me from all these things?
They must be afraid of my reporting.
Yeah, they don't want to hear the truth.
No, we just don't want to hang out with you.
Pretty simple.
Even if it's on a zoom.
All right, your hot seat chilled throw on PFT.
Oh, I was actually going to do the lighthouse on the, on the hot seat because, you know,
we reached out to the Coast Carpet comment, but we've already gone through that. I we've already gone through that. I don't want to re-litigate it.
Hank?
I got work to do. Stop bringing it up.
So my hot seat is going to be, I got one for you. I got another one. The seat that's right next to Lauren Bobert.
Oh.
Because a report came out that she's single again, number one.
It was her first date with this guy,
that she was jacking off of people
to choose the musical, which is fucking hot.
Like this. You know me, big cat.
I like grandmother's, right?
You got sister Jean, Virginia McCasky, Lauren Bobert,
all the grandmother's. Dude, first date. You got sister Jean, Virginia McCasky, Lauren Bobert,
all the grandmothers.
Yeah.
Dude, first date.
Is this the whole breakfast this year?
No, that's not.
I'm not being horny, I'm being normal.
Yeah.
You're being, if you're not horny with the Lauren Bobert thing,
you're telling on yourself for being super horny,
so horny that you're afraid to admit it.
And also, the box list should not have us trying to book guests
like Tiffany Gomez, which we're trying to book.
Correct. So if you see us,
that's just a regular booking of a game.
If you see us interacting with Tiffany,
please be cool about it.
We're not being horny.
We just, we'd like to interview her
and get her story or side of things.
PFT's trying to get her on the show,
and I DMed her, I said, hey, what's up, Tiffany?
Thanks for the follow.
My co-host and good friend, PFT, is a pretty awesome dude.
I think you guys connected, but wanted to give you the heads up
that he rocks LOL.
Yeah, I do rock.
There are a couple of true things in that statement.
Number one, I rock.
I'm a pretty awesome dude, and I have made contact
with Tiffany Gomez, and I think she's interested
coming on the show.
So, everybody be chill.
Be very cool.
Don't fuck this up.
Memes did call dibs.
Yeah, so after I said, okay, I'm gonna try to get it on the show, Memes just goes, oh, she followed part
of my take too.
I'm gonna DM her.
Yeah.
Then he said again, he was like, do you guys want me
to DM her?
Yeah, no means we're good.
We got it, we got it bro.
Daddy's got it, Memes.
No problem, daddy.
Why don't you stand over there.
Daddy's bringing it home.
Okay, he's gonna land this plane.
But I will respect dibs. Daddy's bringing it home. Okay. He's gonna land this plane, but I will respect
dibs. What's it storm? Shut the fuck
house. My cool throne is Bill's mafia.
Yeah. Bill's mafia's back. Big time.
I saw this big time. So there was a
bill's fan on Sunday's game with the
Raiders in town that got naked. I
believe you might have been naked. No, he's covered in shit.
He was on LSD, Coke, drunk, and he was covered in human shit.
And he jumped into a pit at the Bill's new stadium site.
And he got charged with trespassing, which I'm sorry I thought this was America.
Guys can't have fun in America.
We can't kickers, can't smoke cigarettes, drink beer, and a Bill's fan can't take LSD
crazy and climb
into the future home with Buffalo bills crazy. I love this from bills mafia. I feel like
it's been a while since we've seen a crazy bills fan story. So it's good to have this
back in the system. But yeah, taking LSD, he probably saw the future. He probably took
LSD, saw the site that they were going to construct the stadium at. I was like, I'm
going to go watch a bills game in the future at their future home.
Yes.
And he was, he happened to be covered in shit.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how that happened.
Yeah.
But whatever.
He was 29 years old.
We all make mistakes when we're younger, but I feel like Bill's mafia is officially back.
But he's barely an adult.
Yeah.
So I just a kid 29 years old.
I don't, I don't like the fact that I have to deal with this going into the bills playing
the commanders this weekend.
Feels like things are breaking the right way for the bills.
They're one and oh since the sky climbed into the future stadium on LSD naked and shit.
And then maybe it's a win one for the poop acid guy. It might be. Yeah, this could be an acid bet. So I feel a little
little nervous about that. But I am happy for bills fans at the back to their old selves. Yes, all right. My hot seat, I got two. The first is Russell Wilson.
He might have to go back to a wristband.
So Sean Payton was like, we're not getting the plays in
in time.
It was very funny because Sean Payton was like,
I'm frustrated, we're not getting the calls out,
we might have to go to a wristband.
And then Russell Wilson got interviewed right after
and he was like, I thought we were doing a great job.
Yeah, like we like maybe one or two times you didn't,
but yeah, we rock that.
Can somebody explain to me what the issue is with wearing a wristband?
I know a lot of quarterbacks don't want a wear one.
They might steal it. They might go, what do you mean?
The other team might steal it.
Oh, they might take the wristband.
Yeah, they might take it.
So Russ is just being a good guard.
Very cross-bass.
Yes.
Okay.
And then my other hot seat is the Tampae race.
So they got a new stadium coming.
Put out some pretty cool future graphics of the stadium and didn't really look closely
when they were doing that because it's a bunch of fans walking this beautiful concourse
and one of them was wearing a wander Franko jersey.
Oh no. Jake's favorite players. Whoops. They're also staying in St. Pete, which I guess
people wanted them closer to Tampa. Oh, is that a rivalry? No, it's not in Tampa. I mean,
Tampa is just more centrally located for people. Yeah, St. Pete. St. Pete. People forget
there's no actual city called Tampa Bay. Yeah, it's Tampa and St. Pete. It's just the water. It's in a bay.
It's true.
Yeah, but that's tough.
Yeah, wonderful.
I go Jersey.
You got to do one last look to make sure.
Yeah, you got to, yeah, every single piece
of promotion material that comes out,
have a guy with a magnifying glass.
Yeah, like where's Waldo?
Yeah, yeah.
And then my other or my children's own is running back.
So obviously the Nick Chubb injury was terrible,
but thankfully Rob McGriffin III is back on it.
So he said after the game,
and I feel running backs need to have another Zoom meeting
and figure out a way to make sure
what has happened to Sequan Barkley and Nick Chubb
doesn't happen again under paying top level running backs
because they have a higher injury chance
and then over using them is bonkers.
Bonkers.
So, are you three the one person in the world
who thought that Zoom meeting did anything?
Yeah, I think so.
He's like, this reads like a tweet that we would send
is a joke, but he's just being serious.
So, I think, well, I saw the news that came out
right before the Nick Chubb injury,
that the NFL is now filing a grievance against the NFLPA
because apparently,
and allegedly, I don't know if this is true, but allegedly during that Zoom meeting,
the running backs discussed ways that they can maintain a little bit of leverage or gain leverage,
and they throughout their feigning or exaggerating injuries.
That's what Nick Chubb did.
And so apparently Nick Chubb just faked his kneefall in the part last night, which is wild.
But no, apparently on the Zoom call, this is what they appear.
Somebody discussed like maybe we could just like play up injuries a little bit more.
And then that would give us the opportunity to not have a real injury happen.
And then we get to the contract soon or with our bodies intact.
So I don't know if the NFL, well the NFL heard about that.
And now they're saying we need to attack
the players association.
I don't know if RG3 knew that going into
that the players had this masterstroke,
this 14-dimensional chest move of like
faking a hamstring in the beginning.
But just RG3's being like, here's the solution.
Another Zoom.
Yeah.
We'll figure this out.
We can't have these injuries happen.
Let's get a Zoom to talk about
how we can't have injuries happen
It could have been an email or a G3. Yeah. Yeah, so good good job
But maybe the running backs get on in the zoom. Okay Jake my hot seats Disney World a
Bear was on the loose in the park made the close ten rides. Oh, oh bears are back. Yeah bears are back pretty crazy
Which rides or bears in Florida. That's a good question. Okay. I thought that was about to be
that someone gave me a quick dumb question look. No, I mean, I don't know anything about
bear populations in Florida, but when I hear bears, I think definitely not Disney World.
No. Was that the country bear jamboree? The racists? Was it the racist bear? No, it was a real bear a baron steam. No
Pretty crazy. Yeah, I don't know if there's doing in Florida. Yeah, my cool throwing is Stella Blue coffee. Oh and pickleball
plug-a-ball yes
I'm heading down to Atlanta
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I have respect for the MLP. This is we should get this is like when we say we could step on the feel in the NFL
Yeah, and rush for five yards. No, we would die in the back
You step on a pickleball player who's in the MLP?
He's gonna put one through your eye hole Jake Jake, you're ready for the MLP.
I can do it.
Yeah.
I'll play with them.
If you're an MLP player, listening.
I'll play with you this weekend.
I definitely, Thursday, Friday.
I just game week.
I love the Hank's reaction because I think it was to Jake
turning on the plug god voice.
Yeah.
Once he started jumping in.
Am I a chill throne?
In Atlanta.
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Stullaboo, Covey.
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I'm excited to represent Stullaboo
and DC Pickleball Thursday and Friday.
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Love it.
Yeah, in Atlanta.
Okay.
Good hot seat, chill thrones everyone.
Let's get to our interviews.
We have two.
We have Sam Howell, one question in the quarterback.
But before we do that, we're Brian Hoyer.
So a lot of questions with a quarterback.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Las Vegas Raiders quarterback Brian Hoyer,
who has been on many team Super Bowl champion as well.
I should say, do you get introduced to the Super Bowl champion?
By, you should.
You don't play in the game, you don't get usually
introduced that way, but I was on the team.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
You are a Super Bowl champion.
You are on the roster, you're in the team picture.
That's what, you know, I was thinking about this.
I don't know if you remember this.
Do you remember when we met, we were down there in Atlanta
at that restaurant.
It was me, in the city, in Carouss, and we were at that.
I think it's called umi, that sushi place.
And we, that was the first time I ever met you.
So I was just going about that, and I was like, yeah, that was the super bowl.
Yeah, it was like, good luck in the game.
And I think you were like, I hope I don't play in this game.
Like, that could be a problem.
That could be a problem.
But yeah, you are being a factor of quarterback. You never know.
Yeah, so let's let's start there.
Because I mean, you obviously started as well.
I actually should say, uh, and this might be bringing up bad things.
But the Browns year that you got the starting job and that Thursday night game,
I think it was when you got hurt.
Yeah.
I believe I was like, this is it.
The Brian Hoyer, you know, local kid,
this he's going to be the guy for the Browns.
So I don't know if you had those same thoughts
going through your head, but I really,
I really did feel it.
And I was like, for many years,
I was like a big what if like Brian Hoyer was the guy.
Trust me, I saw North Turner out here.
He was our offensive coordinator and his son Scott,
coaches on our staff out here. He's like, man, if you ever would have freaking learned how to slide, maybe all, maybe we North Turner out here. He was our offensive coordinator and his son Scott coaches on our staff out here.
He's like, man, if you ever would have freaking learned how to slide, maybe we all still
be there.
You know, it was just bad timing.
It was like, obviously, like childhood dream.
You know, I grew up in Cleveland, grew up here for the Browns before they left.
And then all of a sudden, I'm playing for them and we're winning.
And, you know, if my clea just hadn't got stuck in that grass or if keep go along so ahead and hit me at the same time like you never know but there's
a lot of those what ifs in a long career and you know I got a chance to start again the
next year and unfortunately just didn't work out but you know I'm happy to still be playing
and and I've learned a lot over 15 years.
Yeah I remember that year I actually went to a Browns game and I was driving through Ohio
and it was Brian Hoyers face on Mr.
Hero billboards on the side of the road. Yeah, they loved you. They loved you in Ohio and then draft day came out while you were in while you were in Cleveland, right?
And I remember we went to like a little premiere from that. That was pretty cool
I thought that the quarterback that they had for the Browns was like loosely based around you. Did you ever feel that?
for the Browns was like loosely based around you. Did you ever feel that?
Well, it's funny because I had just kind of like that movie was already in production
before I even kind of got there.
Because I remember I got there in 2013 and they had already wrapped up all the shooting
but it was funny because then I go see this premiere and it's like it kind of was
like the same thing.
Like, are they going to draft this high profile quarterback early and the GM was like the same thing. Like, aren't they going to draft this high profile, how high profile quarterback early and the, you know, the GM was like, no, we're sticking with you. We're
going to draft this running back and this linebacker and, you know, it was kind of a cool, cool
story, but yeah, didn't work out the real life.
Yeah, I never even put that together. But you're right. It was like, it was the same thing.
It was like an injured quarterback that was coming back from, from something, but he was good.
He was solid. He's a better quarterback than the team seen in a long time. I was like, this is how did they write this? How
did they write this before it happened? Brian Horses. Oh, no. Crazy. So and this always a tough
question asked because you you have been a backup, the majority of your career. What makes a good backup?
Because I we have this debate all the time on Twitter where it's like some star quarterback
decides to retire.
It's like, well, he would be better than all these backups, but they don't understand that
like being a backup quarterback, I think is more than just like talent.
It's there's, you got to be a guy in the locker room.
You got to be able to help the starter all these things.
So what in your minds, you are a phenomenal backup quarterback.
What in your minds like is that mind you are a phenomenal backup quarterback? What in your minds like is that
Recipe for being a good backup quarterback?
Yeah, well, I look at it like I was kind of a backup in two separate parts of my career like obviously the beginning
I'm a young guy learning from Tom Brady every day in the out like was I prepared to like go in and do well if
Something happened to him probably not as prepared as I was as I am now with all the experience that I've had
But you know those years when you're a back up. It's all about soaking it in and learning and and obviously being ready to play and
You don't get a ton of reps, but you know, it's it's a great it was a great learning experience for me
And then I had a chance to play for a bunch of you know different teams Cleveland your team Chicago
Houston and then you kind of gained this
You know, obviously the playing experience and you learn from those instances.
And then I went back to New England
and I'm back in Tom up.
And it was a different scenario because I'd actually played.
And I think he valued my opinion a little bit more
than when I was just this rookie guy who had never done anything.
And we had a great relationship.
And I'd be there on the sideline to see things.
And when he'd come to the sideline to see things and when
he come to the sideline, he'd be like, hey, what they plan third down and I'm trying
to watch and be eyes from him from the sideline while also being ready to play.
And a big thing about back in Tama was that he got older, he couldn't practice every
day.
So it'd be my responsibility to go in there and keep the team going and have a good practice,
which was great because it prepared me for the game that week.
And then you become a back up to a young guy like Mac Jones.
And it's more about, you don't take any reps because he needs every rep and just try to impart
the wisdom that you've learned over the years.
And now here backing up Jim B and kind of the same thing haven't been in you know our offense of system for a long time it's you know you know try to help him where he needs help
and if you ask for it and at the same time you know be ready to play like you know the
first drive of the season he ran the ball scramble got hit they had to take him out to make
sure he was okay and it's like boom you're thrust in there you just never know when it's
going to be and you know that, that's probably the most difficult part
is you go to the game day
and you have to be mentally prepared to play,
but you may not play at all.
Right.
And so I always found it easier as a starter
because at least you have the week going in,
you know when the offense takes the field,
you're going out there and you're prepared
to play 60 minutes.
Yeah.
Just a quick follow up on that.
Have you ever had a moment in your career where like the defense is just teeing off on
the starting offense and the quarterback gets hurt and you're like, oh, fuck, I don't
want to do this.
I mean, I don't want to do it.
It's the role, but oddly enough of all the years that I've been a back and a quarterback,
it's only been one or two times where I've had to been thrust into action, which is kind
of crazy when you think about. Right. The furthest notable was when I played
in the Colts and I was backing up Jacobi Brasette. And a lot of times when the place called,
I'm like, all right, there's a chance that he's going to get hit here. And I remember
it was a play, it was like a quick pass. And I didn't even think in that all of a sudden
the place over and I'm looking to where the ball was completed and you hear the whistles and I'm like you know what happened
and I look in Jacobi's down I'm like how did you get hurt on this play you know what
I mean but one of one of the lineman had fallen into his knee and and I've only been there
for like four or five weeks so I came at the end of training camp and I get in the game
and I'm like God please just call some plays that I know.
I remember once there was a one point we called a run play and I'm looking at the defense
for playing Steelers and it's like I run to the left and they have like seven guys over
there and our center was Ryan Kelly and I go, Ryan, we can't run this play like how do
I get a play to the right and he like said the name.
I'm like, all right, that's the one we're doing.
Let's go.
We'll get it first down, but you know, sometimes you just got to go on the fly.
Yeah. Did you always know where your helmet was just in case even though you've only been like get it first down, but sometimes you just got to go on the fly.
Did you always know where your helmet was just in case,
even though you've only been jumped into action?
I'm going to advise that, you know,
Bella check is like when you're in the back of quarterback,
you don't get in your piece.
You're like, your helmet's on.
Yeah.
Because there were games early in my career
where it'd be like second and eight,
and all of a sudden I hear in my helmet,
like, boy, you're getting there.
And you just, you'd be like,
you know, sometimes it was a preseason game,
but it happened in a regular season game too.
And so, you know, that was part of Bill's thing
was always keeping on her toes.
And so for me, when I'm the backup, my helmet's on.
First, I gotta hear the play.
And second, like, you gotta be ready to go.
Yeah, that would be my nightmare.
It's being the backup quarterback, you get a shot,
and then just running all over the side,
like somebody took my helmet, someone took my helmet.
Yeah, get that thing back on I always have my when
offense on the field my helmet's always on when yeah when did you when did you
just when did you learn that Bellicic liked you good question I never did to be
honest with you I mean he kept you but you brought you back right yeah no I mean
I think for me it was you rookie year, I think it drafted.
And I thought I was going to.
And then of course, when you don't get drafted, you get all these teams calling you after
the draft.
And I remember my agent was like, hey, I think New England really likes you.
And I think that's where you should go.
I have a good relationship with these guys.
And I was like, Joe, Tom Brady, this is ninth year.
They had just drafted Kevin O'Connell, who's now the head coach in Kansas City
the year before, like in the second or third round,
and they had another guy who'd been there
for a long time, Matt Gutierrez.
And he goes, just trust me, I think, you know,
I've talked to Nick Cicero, who was like their pro-personnel guy
at the time, and he's like, I think that it'll be a good fit.
And worst case scenario, you get to learn from,
you know, the greatest coach in the greatest quarter
back of all time, and I said, all right, and I went there and I just tried to learn and soak it all in.
And week after week got better, got better.
And then all of a sudden, the next thing I know, I'm Tom's back up on opening day.
And he's coming off of a major knee reconstruction.
And so I think then I kind of knew they believed in me.
And that's what they wanted me to do was to be there.
And obviously, B. Tom's back up and learn from him. And then, you know,
I end up leaving and playing for a few other teams and part of the Jimmy G-Trade when he went to
San Francisco was, you know, for me to go back to New England and obviously he wanted me back then too.
So, you know, it's funny, like, you never know how things are going to play out and, you know,
to be able to go back there several times I think
you know that I always showed a show to vote a confidence.
Yeah, yeah, so you you want to Super Bowl and then you also lost the Super Bowl in the Patriots.
What as a backup do you say anything after like the twenty eleven lost the Giants?
Do you do say anything or do you just like I'm not saying shit in this locker room?
Yeah, I mean that was my first experience losing.
And for me, I don't know, this is like the top
that it could ever get for me in my career
and to lose it was heartbreaking.
And you know, you go in and I remember Tom just sitting
there just locker in his uniform for like 45 minutes an hour.
And I was like, God, and I was gonna be a free agent the next year. So I'm like, God, is this this could be it? And then, you
know, I was there again when we lost to the Eagles. And, you know, that game was incredible.
I mean, I remember sitting on the sideline and Tom was just in the zone. It was like, he
came over. He didn't say anything. He looked at the pictures. That was it. He went back
out and I made it through for 500 and some yards and the Super Bowl was crazy. And,
you know, after losing it for the second time, you walk right in the locker room like, geez, like, maybe I'm the one that's cursed this team. It's, I've been here for two of the losses. Um, you know, which that made it that much sweeter when I was a part of the winning team the next year when we beat the Rams.
Yeah, I feel like I would try to crack a joke and everyone would be really pissed at me.
That's, that's probably exactly what I just be like, yeah, just get you know,
in the locker room after Super Bowl lost, be like, well, get him.
We'll get him next week, guys.
Some like that.
Balls for the game.
Well, it's hard to get on a game.
Yeah, we'll get him next week.
We have a draw for you.
Yeah.
Do blame yourself as not being good enough on scout team to give the guys a good
look at the Philly special.
Oh, man, I, you know what?
It didn't run that one.
So, you know what? I can't say I gave him a bad look
because we never ran it.
But, you know, that's a ballsy call and the Super Bowl
and it worked out for him.
So, you know, that's like, like you talk about back
and quarter back, like a huge part of it is, you know,
I took a lot of pride in prepping our defense each
and every week and to be honest, it's a lot of fun
because you get to imitate some other guys.
So, you know, you're playing against the packers
and you get to imitate Aaron Rogers.
Like, you're trying to make no look throws or my homes
or, you know, a Josh Allen and like,
there's some things that you learn, you know,
skill wise that you could try to do or attempt
that maybe you wouldn't do in the confines
of your own offense.
And so I remember, you know, the Super Bowl
against the Rams,
we were playing those guys.
And I remember having played in the West Coast system,
I'm seeing a lot of these cards.
I'm like, I know this play, I run this play.
And talking it through with the McCordies,
the high towers, those guys, and saying, hey, look,
like, I think they're probably going to try to do this
on this play.
And it was pretty cool because after that Super Bowl, Devon and Jason McCordy both, you
know, did an interview and talked about, you know, how I helped contribute to them and
their preparation.
And that meant a lot for me for not having to be able to, you know, take the field and
take a snap, knowing that I contributed.
And those guys felt like I really prepped them for the game.
You are Super Bowl champion.
That right there.
You got to just tell that story every single time.
So, yeah, I mean, that's a great story.
And it's got to be a very pressure pack situation
to be like, I don't actually get to affect
how this game's going to go, but I'm part of this
and I'm part of the bigger thing here,
which every single week has to be like,
it kind of probably weighs on you a little
bit knowing that like, I can't go out there and help them.
We got to be Jared Gough one week.
You got to be DeShon Bloss in the next week.
It's yeah, a lot that goes into the pack up quarterback.
Did Ernie Adams ever give you a little tip?
Did he ever tell you something to do as the scout team?
Well, funny fact about Ernie is sometimes like on Fridays, they let Ernie draw the cards
for the scout team. And he come down and like, look, I got the transcontinental special
son of these guys.
Look at him, it's like a double reverse pass back to the quarterback and like, there's
no way he's like, oh, I saw this coordinator and he ran it back.
You know, when he was the offensive coordinator at Eastern Michigan, you know, 30 years ago.
Yeah, so Ernie was always trying to keep those guys on toes. And obviously, it'd be funny because you could tell when
the car was drawn by Ernie and have all these scribbles on it
and it'd be like a crazy play.
Oh, that's it.
Yeah.
Ernie, one of our favorite unsung secret characters
in the NFL that I guess more of the boys are devos.
Yeah.
So Ernie was actually involved.
Friday was Ernie Day.
Yeah.
I mean, sometimes Thursdays, and look, trust me,
I was a part of those offensive practice
where he drew the cards for the defense.
And you'd have this whole scouting report, Josh,
McDaniel's as notorious for prepping us like,
look, on this, down in distance,
we got a narrow down to this.
And Ernie would have the cards,
and it'd be some exotic blitz
that they haven't shown in four years. it catch you off guard and build like look
There's no rule. They can't do that. Yeah, and it would just bite me insane
So it was always fun when I got to run them, you know, against the defense because they would get pissed off
Like there's no way they're gonna run that. Yeah, it's funny that you did that too because you did the exact same impression that
Jules does when he comes on the show
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I have a insult stat for myself that's actually a positive stat for you.
I don't know if you know this one.
So bears insult stats always go viral.
People love to do it.
The Justin Jefferson won the other day.
Do you know that you are tied for most 300 yard passing games
in a bear season?
You're tied for the most all time with four in a season.
Yeah, with Cutler, Mitch, and Billy Wade.
The four of you both had four in one season. It's an insults that
that the most is four. Not only play that game. I know what you're saying. We should
of let you keep going. It's going to be wasn't for Clay Matthews is destroying my phone.
I have bad luck on Thursday night games, man. I actually, that was, you know, it's funny.
You said that. I know you're a burst fan, but like that was one of like the most enjoyable seasons in
my career. I love I'm a Midwest kid. I grew up in Cleveland, Chicago, you know,
Lake Forest was beautiful. We loved it there. And I was playing. I was playing
well. I'm like, man, like kind of like what you talked about in Cleveland.
Like this may, I may have a chance here. And then Thursday night game, second
quarter. Boom. Yeah. So I never broke a bone in my life. It was crazy. And,
and, but I was on a
roll. We, you know, we didn't
win all those games. We were
close. But, um, I love playing for
the Bears. Yeah. So you are, you
are one of the best bears quarter
backs of all time. Just based on
that. Yeah. For sure. Do you
think that maybe you would have
gotten more chances to start if
you had gone by your name, which
is Axel. Yeah. Axel. Who are
Axel? Who are you? Axel, who are you?
That's a lightning in a bottle right there.
That's a starting quarterback.
Or a great skateboarder.
Yeah, it really wasn't up to me.
So my dad's name is Axel,
hence that's why I'm named after him,
but my mom like refused.
She's like, there's no way I'm calling my first born son, Axel.
So she named me Brian and that's what I was always called.
And I always joke about it like, you know, second,
third grade, you go for the first day of school,
like roll call and they'd be like,
Axel, Hoyer and all the kids would laugh.
And I'd get up and so finally I'm like,
Mom, you need to send a note and tell them it's Brian.
And I actually thought about switching to it
when I went to college and my dad's like, don't do it
because like the moment you throw an interception,
they're gonna start cheering asshole instead of axle.
And I said, all right, fair enough.
But it's cool name, it's unique.
And especially now in this day and age of like
these crazy names, everyone who meets me is like,
man, why don't you go buy axle?
I'm like, you didn't grow up with it as a kid.
Yeah, but you did go, I mean, going from axle to Brian,
like no offense to, do you lost a lot of masculinity?
I'm like, who's the 80s? You're like no offense to you. Do you lost a lot of masculine?
Like, there's the 80s.
Everybody.
You lost a lot of masculinity in that train.
Axel Rose.
Axel Rose was a cool name in the 80s, right?
That's true.
Yeah, for sure.
My dad's name.
I feel like it's just a brand new.
That is, I mean, being like my dad's name is Axel is just as cool actually.
Now that I'm thinking about it, that's pretty bad ass.
Yeah, that's, that's crazy.
I can still switch.
I mean, Giancarlo Stanton used to be Mike Stanton.
That's true.
That's a fact.
Switch it up.
So I don't know if you watched the documentary
about Johnny Manzell.
We've had him on the show a couple of times.
He actually worked at Partial for a while.
From your perspective, did you, because you were there
the first year, he was at the Browns, were you like sitting
there like this is not going well, like I can tell he's probably not putting in the prep
work.
Did you like have conversations with him about that?
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
Everyone always brings that up and obviously once the Netflix thing came out, everyone
here watched it.
They're like, dude, I saw you all over that.
I'm like, yeah, I mean, I lived through it.
And I always felt kind of bad for Johnny.
There was so much pressure.
You know, there was so much hype.
And obviously he was going through a lot of things.
He and I had never had any problem.
I mean, in the building, we were great.
I thought he was great in the building.
I think if anything, you know,
the Browns kind of knew what was going on
and they still thrust this all on him.
You know what I mean?
And clearly he wasn't prepared. You know, he kind of jokes about it. Like, yeah, I had watched
zero hours of film. I remember like when they called me in to say, hey, we're playing Johnny. I
remember Mike Petton told me that and I was like, okay, clearly like, you know, this decision is being
made for you guys and, you know, for the program and that's what they chose to do. But he and I always, we were fine.
Obviously, I was always focused on trying to prepare
the best I could, but I tried to, whatever knowledge
I could share with him I did.
And he was always respectable.
And I think there's this persona that maybe he felt
like he had to live up to.
I don't know, but I felt like it was kind of an unfair situation for him to be honest with you.
Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever hear the story about how the owner of the Browns was told by a homeless
person? Oh, yeah.
Draft Johnny Manzell on Draft Night. And that's why they took him.
When you heard that, where you like, what the hell, man? I grew up around here.
Come on. Yeah
I know I may have been growing up in Cleveland and knowing
You know that fan base is so loyal and they're just they get so excited about everything and I think that was it was kind of We're like part of like the fan base was like you said lean towards me and then part of it was like
You know he's been winter. He's gonna bring us back to the promised land. And I think that was an unfair, you know,
height that was put on him, to be honest with you.
And I think the team fed into that.
You know, they wanted to sell the jerseys.
They wanted to sell the tickets.
And it was crazy.
I mean, we were, I remember beating the Bengals,
I think it was the first week in November.
And we were first place.
And, you know, two weeks later, I was getting benched.
Yeah.
And, right? I mean,
look, I didn't play great, but there's a lot of starters who don't play great for a week or two
and a team sticks behind, but I think they were looking for any opportunity to thrust him in there.
And that's where I said, like, I don't know how fair that was to him either. Yeah. Yeah. So now
you're not in Vegas. And I love Allegian Stadium. It's one of the best stadiums in the NFL.
It's awesome. Yeah. Have you got to check out the the orb that they have there? You know what? The best view I've had is flying
in and you see it at night. I mean, it's incredible. So we actually, in my families out here,
and we had like that little biweek for the season, and we went down and saw a comedy show,
we were right by it. I mean, it's, that thing's like out of this world. Yeah. It's crazy. It's awesome.
It's nuts. So the um, so the, not
Joshua Daniel, not Bill Balecheck because Josh Martinez is your coach right now. And
Bill Balecheck is probably the greatest coach of all time. Who is your favorite coach to
play for? So I'll take those two out. So you can't answer those. Who's your favorite
coach to play for? Um, you know, I had two great coaches in Chicago. And since I'm talking
to you, I'll definitely throw them up their dial logins and Dave Rgoam, funny enough Dave Rgoam,
my quarterback coach there, he went to my high school.
He was a quarterback like six, seven years ahead of me.
And considering I played like the best stretch
I've ever played,
Dahl was great because he was very like,
oh, he'd be like, hey, what do you want to run this week?
And so I had a lot of say and we had been together
in Cleveland and he knew what my strengths were. And I felt very free, you know, playing for him. Obviously I played for Kyle
Shannon, Kyle's an incredible coach. I learned so much from him about, you know, zone coverage and
how to attack zone coverage. He was obsessed with that. And so I learned a lot about that. He was
also, you know, crazy about foot footwork and the way you throw.
And when I first was with him in Cleveland,
I noticed a difference in the way I was able to throw
when I worked a lot of the footwork drills
that he put me through.
So those three guys would definitely be at the top
of the list.
Good answers.
When you were with Kyle Shanahan,
where you like, I feel like the best quarterback ever
because we obviously have a theory, nothing against Brock Purti, but we've seen it.
Every time he has a quarterback, he brings the best out of the guys.
Yeah, Kyle is a great job of scheming and game planning and his offense.
You know, makes it simple for the quarterback.
And I think, you know, for me, we owe, when we could run and play action, it was super,
it like you said, I felt great. I was a starter
at Cleveland. You know, even though San Francisco didn't work out, I had a lot of good games
out there too. And he definitely puts the quarterback in a great position to succeed.
Yeah. Yeah. So out in Vegas, after week one, Max Crosby was being interviewed and he
said that Jimmy Gropel is a dog. So Jimmy G is a dog. Would you agree?
Is Jimmy G a dog?
Jimmy's awesome.
Oddly enough, the first time I ever met him
was at the Derby after we won the Super Bowl,
because Tom has this crew that goes to the Derby.
And that was, even though we had traded places,
he went to San Francisco.
I went back to New England.
That was the first time I ever met him.
And so getting to work with him,
you just see why this guy's a winner.
He brings the same mentality every day. Um, and he guys gravitate to him. He's got that
winning personality. I think you saw it in week one when we played, you know, some tough situations.
And he ends up, you know, closing out the game, scrambling on a play. He's not known for being a
scrambler, you know, gets the first down slides. And you could just see, see you know why this guy is a winner in the NFL
Yeah, do you ever catch yourself just staring at him?
Been like dammy so hot because he is so hot. He is a handsome guy. Yeah, some guy. I know Chicago native
Yeah, I met him once and I he took my breath away. I was like hold the fuck like it's true
You are the hottest guy ever. You're looking to yeah, if I were you I would not introduce my wife to him
You're looking to yeah, if I were you I would not introduce my wife to
So if I were looking for for wives, I think
Who's your favorite guy to back up not Tom Brady will take Tom Brady out of this
Jacobi percent, okay, we're big we're big Jacobi
Yeah, yeah, it's something like Josh like this guy's hilarious. You talk about a dog, people who love him. I mean, you see the respect, like the brown show,
and like a guy came back for a preseason game,
and they had like a, the billboard for him.
Like, welcome back to Kobe, we miss you.
Like this guy is one of the best guys
and I've ever been around.
He's hilarious.
My kids love him.
You know, he, he, people gravitate towards him.
The same way that, you know, they gravitate towards Jimmy.
Um, I love, I love being with Jimmy too, but Jacobi and I just had a bond and,
and, you know, we've kept that friendship and, you know, he's always sending me
texts and making me laugh.
I mean, he's just, he's a great guy.
Yeah.
Backing up Tom Brady, I would imagine it would be, it would, it would be easy kind
of because you know, that he's probably going to play and you're not going
to have to get into much form. But at the same time, like trying to absorb know that he's probably going to play and you're not going to have to get into much for him.
But at the same time, like trying to absorb anything that he's trying to teach since he's
on such a different level than everybody else in terms of experience, what he's accomplished,
the way he sees the game, all that stuff.
Is there something about his game that you were actually able to emulate that made you
better quarterback?
Um, I mean, there's so much, just being around him day in and day out for so many years,
you kind of pick up certain things that he does and try to incorporate him in your game.
I think the thing about Tom was, you know, first and foremost, he's a great person. He's
a great leader. And he knows, which got like, he knows that he could be hard on Julian,
but he's got to take it a different route with someone else. You know, he was, no one was
harder than on Julian than, than Tom. I remember, because we joined and I came in together as rookies and I'll never forget, like,
West would run around and Tom would throw it and I could job, and then Julian would do
like the exact same steps and he'd like, what the fuck?
Like, you know, I told you to do this and Julian would walk back and I did it the same.
I did the same.
And it paid off, you know what I mean?
Like he, he earned He earned Tom's trust.
And I remember with Bronx for a year, he'd keep Bronx out there for 40 minutes throwing extra routes.
And I think what I learned the most from Tom is you always have to put in the most work so that other guys see you do.
They can't question what you're doing. And if they see you doing it, everybody kind of rises at that level.
And I think that's what built such a great culture there.
Was it not just guys like Tom,
but like the brusquies, the brables,
you know, the guys that we learned about.
And then the kind of the crew that I came in with was like
Julian and Devon and Hightower.
And it was kind of cool for me
because I kind of left when it was still
like those older guys.
And then I came back and now you know Matt Slater and McCordy and Julian and hi-towel were like the older guys
And they had kind of continued on that that tradition of like look no one's gonna work us. It's hardest shit here
You know you come in every day Bill makes it as hard as possible
But it's the grind that kind of brings us all together and you know
I always loved the locker room there was always the tightest knit locker rooms
I've ever been in because I think we all suffered together
through the meetings, through like,
you know, you go into the meeting with Bill
and it's like a 40 minute low lights.
You like, when those lights go off,
you're like, fuck, like what played it,
I mess up yesterday, that's gonna be on this low light.
And I think it created this bond between us.
Like I mean, I was as close with the defensive backs,
the defensive line as I was, the receivers, the offensive line,
and I think that showed in the way that we played.
So this is going to be a hard question.
You backed up both of them. Who's hotter?
Jimmy G or Tom Brady?
Who?
You got to go to OG.
Yeah, Tommy.
I think it's Jim G.
I mean, I think he's more handsome.
Jim G. I don't know if I'd say hotter. Jimmy G is hotter. Jimmy G is hot.
He's sexy. Tom Brady's like, yeah, he's a strapping man. Yeah, strapping fellow.
I mean, they're both good looking guys. I got nothing. I don't hold a candle to either of them.
So you're gonna look terrible. I'm bald. Like, I'm that I just trying to have a nice beard, you know.
All right. So this is a dumb question, but I would love to get some insight.
We obviously watched a ton of football.
You see different quarterback struggling, younger quarterback struggling.
What do we as fans not understand about the position that is difficult to like
convey to people like this is what we're seeing it one way.
This is how they're seeing it.
And that's where the disconnect is.
I mean, it's hard.
Look, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the reason why they say it's the
hardest position in sports.
There's so much variables that are going on.
You, every year, you're on a new team, essentially, because no,
no team ever stays the same.
So you got to learn new guys every year.
You're going against a new team.
So they got new guys, different scheme.
And you know, I saw something, I think Albert Breer wrote about it today and it said, you know, offenses
are struggling early in this year and he goes, is it the lack of time in the off season
and the lack of pads starting to catch it up?
And I look, I'm old, I remember two days off seasons that lasted four, five months.
And you know, now there's less time.
And so is it gonna take offense
as longer to get going?
Is it to take younger guys to get more reps in games,
to get going?
I don't know if that's the case.
I know that we used to do a lot more work.
And that's for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
And then what about in terms of the argument always comes up,
like play calling versus quarterback play,
how much do you think it is when you're criticizing a quarterback or like this guy's,
you know, not playing well right now?
How much do you think is play calling and how much do you think it is the quarterback play?
I mean, hard to tell. I mean, it could be the thing that I realized because I've played
in a lot of different offices is, you know, sometimes like I'll watch someone play.
I'm like, what is that guy doing? But then I I realized like you don't know how they're being coached.
I mean, I've been coached so many different ways.
There's some systems where the quarterbacks are responsible for a lot.
There's some systems where he's not.
So like the play comes in and he's just told to run the play.
And I've been on offenses like that and you look and you're like, man, in our scheme,
we would never want to do that.
But maybe that's how they're being coached.
So I always kind of look at it like you, you don't fully understand the full picture.
And then there's also like, man,
did the guy run the right route?
Was he at the right depth?
Like there's, the one thing about football is
there's so many variables on every given play.
And there's 11 people working together.
And I've always said this like, offensively,
if one guy messes up, it can ruin the whole play.
Defensively, if one guy falls down, does the wrong thing.
If he's away from the play, you'll never know it.
And so I think as fans, when you're watching, there's a lot of things that go into football
that maybe you miss and see, there's plays where the left, I'm just referencing over
the years, there's plays where the left tackle is the wrong thing,
but the quarterback throws the ball quick enough.
It's in a touchdown.
But there's times where the left tackle is the wrong thing.
And the quarterback gets blown up and it's a strip sack
and it's seven points the other way.
And it's that little variable right there
that it just shifts the game.
And I think like you said, what's going on?
I think there's less work.
There's new teams and defenses are good, man.
There's no slouches in the NFL. You have to bring your A-game every week,
or you can get beat by any team in the NFL, it's just the way it is.
Do you think that quarterback play has gotten significantly better since you've gotten into the league?
I mean, there's a lot of young talent to guys. We just, we played Josh Allen this week.
I watched that guy and I wish I could play football like him.
We just, you know, we played Josh Allen this week. I watched that guy and like, God, I wish I could play football like him.
Yeah. You know, he's six, five.
He's got a rocket arm.
He's, he's running over people.
He's juking guys.
You know, you look at guys like Pat Mahomes.
I mean, these young guys, they, they have so much talent.
And then there's talent around them.
And then it's like, it's like basketball.
So, um, I don't know.
I mean, you look at like a generation, obviously Tom just retired,
but Tom Brady,
Peyton Manning, Drew Breeze, Aero Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, and Ralthus Burr.
That was an era of great quarterback play for a long time. And now you look at, it's
kind of shift into these other guys. And, you know, I think the one thing when you look
at the college game, you know, they throw the ball. When I was in college, we were in like
the eye formation and ran the ball.
And now you look at quarterbacks coming to league,
they've thrown so much in college that throwing the ball
is like, I had to learn how to the pass game in the NFL.
And a lot of these guys are already running
pro-concept, pass concepts in college.
Yeah.
Yeah, you mentioned the bills game.
You guys stayed at the green briar leading up to the
new game.
Usually teams do that.
I thought we just knew you guys had a golf outing there.
Yeah, it's like it's, it's usually back to back, right?
On the East Coast. If you're playing, if your West Coast team, you stay at
the Greenbrire, you guys actually went out there ahead of time.
Why'd you, why'd you decide to do that?
I think we were playing one, one PM Eastern, which is 10 a.m. for us out
here on the West Coast. So I think you know that ability to kind of
acclimates to the Eastern time zone so you're not going to you know if you think about a 10 a.m. game
Usually get to the stadium three hours before the game. That's it's 7 a.m. Like usually, you know
I'm just getting up at six out here. So yeah
I think it was an idea of going out there acclimates at the time zone and
That way when you woke up on Sunday morning, it didn't feel like you were going to play a game at 10 a.m.
Yeah. We're trying to figure out what goes on at the Green Briar, because it's like a
secret government facility. Yeah. Teams are right. What happens at the Green Briar? Spill
the beans. I mean, we practiced all week and obviously it's a historic place. I know
a few of the guys went and did like, there's a bunker tour. I guess they built this bunker
during the Cold War in case something happened.
They'd have a place for everybody in DC to go to.
I didn't end up going there and checking it out,
but like you said, it seems like there's a story
of history there.
Yeah, I have to ask you one big 10 question.
Hank actually was a Michigan State fan on Saturday.
He's doing a different school every week.
Not the best. Not the best
day to do that. Toughest place to play in the big tent. I'm going to go with Penn State.
Yeah. That's good. That's that place. Look, Ohio State is ridiculous, but it's kind of
surrounded by the city. When you are driving to the stadium at Penn State, you're kind of like
out in the middle of nowhere. There's like this huge director set and you get in there. And I think
two out of the three times I played there
was like a whiteout.
And one was the last game this season
and whoever one was going to the Rose Bowl
and we got, we got smack man.
I mean, that's a tough hostile environment to play.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good answer.
White House looks, or the White Out looks so good at night too.
That's what it was.
It was my senior year.
My last big 10 game was their senior day,
whiteout, winner goes to the Rose Bowl.
And it did not go well for the Spartans that day.
Yeah, but you beat Michigan your last year?
I did. I did. Yep.
I mean, I look the big house is a historic place,
but it's not a very hostile environment.
Those fans kind of sit on their hands.
And especially if it's not a close game,
like we played my senior year, it doesn't get very long.
Yeah, I heard it was in a hot state.
I like to talk that shit, Jim.
It is a fact, it's 100,000 people at the opera.
That's what they say.
It's all the noise goes out.
Right, it's kind of shaped like this.
Yeah, I mean, those other places are vertical.
Even, I think even Spartan Stadium,
you know, can get louder than Michigan Stadium at times.
Yeah, I want to talk about maybe the greatest play
that never was when
you were on the Browns. You threw an absolute dime to Johnny Menzel. It was a trick play.
It was at the time when there was a lot of chatter in the media about how Johnny was fitting
in, whether or not he was rubbing the coaches the wrong way. He gets into a fake fight with
Kyle Shanahan on the sidelines who then sends him up the field. You throw a missile to
him. Takes it like 40 yards.
I think there was like a illegal procedure or something
called the offense, but at the time,
what was it like when you decided to install that play?
Was Kyle like listen, everyone thinks that I hate you right now.
So it would be a good idea if we pretended to get into a fight.
I don't know if it was so much like, I hate you.
I think it's like, you're gonna come over.
I'm gonna act like I'm yelling at you
to cause this distraction.
And I remember that play,
we even practiced the whole rotation and practice.
Like, okay, Johnny's gonna go in,
and if it's this scenario,
then we're gonna send it back in and it's gonna be,
and the running back was supposed to stay on the field.
But he didn't get the call.
I forget what happened,
but basically I was in the pistol
so I couldn't see him behind me. And I thought he he was set and he thought he had to be on the right side
of me. It just, it was a legal procedure, but I thought it was one of the greatest, you
know, schemeed up plays that there ever were. Yeah, it really was. What's the best throw
you've ever made? We'll put it on a clip. We'll be like Brian Hoyer was different. We'll
do one of those like Twitter videos. We're like fucking Brian Hoyer highlights.
Let me think.
There was a few throws when I played in Chicago that were good.
There was one I threw to Cam Meredith.
I mean, I don't know if you remember him.
Yeah.
And it was against Dallas and he ran like this shake route and it was like a hide nap.
We call him nap like a like a back shoulder throw in the middle of the field and it was more like I thought like wow what a route by this guy I'm gonna start throwing him the ball a lot more
There were some ones in clea one where I rolled out left and head of you know Kyle has that rolled out program
Where he throw it back to the right there was one I threw there to Jim Dre that was pretty good
You know, I don't know. I mean it's it's weird thing, like when you're so, like in the moment,
I don't remember, I'd have to think back and like,
man, each year, what did I do?
I threw a Hail Mary for a touchdown in Houston,
that was pretty cool.
Few balls to Dehunter Hopkins there.
I mean, sometimes the receiver makes the throw, you know.
So, you know, I've had a few, but-
Was that against the Jaguarars, the Hail Mary?
It was against the Colts.
Okay.
Yeah.
They have had a couple good Hail Mary's down there.
Is there an art to throwing passenger parents?
Like do quarterbacks think to themselves?
I'll put a little extra air in there
to the quarterbacks coming out of position
and then boom, that's an easy 30 yard sound field.
Definitely, I mean, there's definitely times
where you go in and say like here we have Devonte Adam.
So kind of similar like when I was in Houston
with the honor hockey,
because like you just want to give him a chance
to go up and touch the ball,
because you know if he can touch it,
he's probably gonna catch it.
And if he can't, if he, they're not letting him touch it,
then you're getting that 30 yards right there.
No, no, there was, I mean, there was definitely,
I don't know if it's an art, it's more like,
when you have a receiver
that's that good. We always just say just let him touch the ball somehow some way. Don't overthrow him,
don't underthrow him, throw it to the point where he's going to go up and either he's going to catch
it because they're that good or the DB is going to run through him and it's going to be 30 yards
anyways. Yeah, we always say on this podcast, if you touch it, you can catch it. That's a fact.
That's a fact. All right, so I have one last question.
This has been awesome.
We appreciate you joining us, Brian.
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Bad memory, but it's not about that.
Your Texans year where you went to the playoffs when you clinch to go to the playoffs
Did you even have like a second where you thought you weren't gonna be playing at the first Saturday game that they just made the Texans game every year?
Are we like all right? Let's go we know when this game's gonna be played
Yeah, no, I mean that was more like man
Like this is exciting. I'm a starter. I'm in the playoffs
Obviously like you said bad memory. It was probably the worst exciting. I'm a starter. I'm in the playoffs. Obviously like you
said, bad memory. It was probably the worst game I've ever played in my entire sporting career going
back to like Little League. Oh jeez. And I was just thrilled to be playing in the in the playoffs.
Were you awesome in Little League? I was pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I think anybody who's made it
for the NFL is probably like the best in little and in every league that they've been in. Yeah.
That's part of the way it goes.
Yeah.
What was your best, how many how many touchdowns is your best high school game?
Uh, definitely four.
I mean, I remember I threw like a 90 98 yard touchdown pass in high school.
I mean, I went to a pretty historic high school in Cleveland.
So there's there's a lot of, you know, great players that have come out here.
I mentioned Dave or go and and, um, you know, I was up there with a lot of the records
and stuff like that.
But for me it was always about winning a state championship, which I never did as a starter
and my school's won 12 of them.
So I always feel like I left that place with a little bit of unfinished business.
Yeah, but you're a super role champ.
I would also like to find some like old school Brian Hoer highlights from when you were like
12, 10 years old maybe, like in power of Warner football.
I can find them.
I'll hit my dad up see if I can send them to you.
Yeah, hit up hacks.
Brian, Brian, Brian, who are your Adrian Peterson two best, like, early high school highlights
that we've ever seen.
Best tape we've ever seen.
Yeah.
You want to know, like, you talk about, like, where you get in Little League, like, I used to be able to run past people.
And then I'm like, one of the slowest guys on the team now, like, that just shows you, like, when, in Little League, like, I was, like, running quarterback sweet for 50 running quarterback sweep for 50 yard touchdowns. No running like a five flat.
Even the offense alignment in the NFL, they're running like 5.040s, which is terrifying.
Yes.
Yeah, it's amazing.
So my last question, you've had a great career. Hopefully it extends as long as you want
it to, but then you probably are at that stage where you're thinking about what you want
to do next. It sounds like you probably be a good coach. Have you thought about getting into coaching?
No. I just look at like the hours these guys put in and actually like why you're sitting here,
like my two kids are sitting in here with me. Like I want to be able to spend time with them.
And so I'd rather do something like what you guys are doing than coach and just kind of use that
knowledge and educate people. And it's fun to I talked to Josh Drew and we mentioned Jacobi Berset.
He and I kind of have this podcast idea that we've been cooking up.
And I think it'd be fun.
I mentioned how funny he is and through all of our experiences.
I mean, look, he's been a starter.
He's been a backup.
And I think we have something there that we could work out too.
But I think I could be a good coach.
I just don't really have the desire to do it.
Well, a little tip for you if you get into podcasting,
you probably don't realize this because you're an NFL quarterback,
but a lot of sitting, a lot of sitting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We sit a lot.
Mm-hmm.
So maybe getting those like, those are treadmill desks or something.
Yeah, I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no.
You gotta sit and do nothing.
So it's not for like guys can't handle this type of rigorous lack of activity.
It's definitely a change in, you know, direction.
Because, you know, so it have to be, you know, a little bit preparation.
Our body, our bodies have gotten so hard from not doing shit for the last 70 years.
Yeah.
So it's a one year look really comfortable though.
Yeah.
It actually, it's very small.
And I bet you, I bet you you when you sit down and watch,
try to watch eight NFL games at the same time,
it's not gonna be easy.
It's not easy.
It's true.
Trying to watch it all at the same time,
but you know, it's funny is like my wife
that drives her nuts, but like I actually love football.
So like when I get home from our games sometimes,
like I throw the Sunday and I came on
and I want to see who's playing
because I actually I enjoy watching it.
And I feel like it's something that you
can always learn from like there's times where I see like a play that's being
run and be like okay tomorrow I gotta go check the coaches tape and see like how
they did that so you know I do love this for it's treated me really well and I'm
sure that whatever I do will have something to do with football. Yeah I mean we
gave JJ a lot of warning when he retired we said you're not ready to watch all
the football that we watch
He was so excited to do it. It took two weeks of him watching football to be like
It's impossible to do this is very hard to do. It's like thank you JJ. Yeah, it's not easy
It's wow. I saw him tweeted that out. He said, you know, it's hard to watch eight games at once. Yeah
We're and listen. We're around the side. I think you're 37. We're pft in our book 38. Mm-hmm. Bounce back is not the same. Monday mornings are tough for me. It's hard to get out of that.
I know what it's like to play in the league.
I feel like my body feels like it's been a car crash every Sunday.
And then five slices of peach and a Sunday and drink three rupees.
Yeah, every Monday morning, I'm like, how am I going to do this again?
Then by Sunday, I'm like, all right, let's go.
You go. You go. It's just like that.
You take them costs on Sunday. By the time Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
we're on to ready to go again. We're man of the arena. Yeah. All right.
Brian, thank you so much, man. This was been really, really fun. So yeah, and we'd love to
have you back on anytime. So appreciate it. Sounds good. Thanks, guys.
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Okay, we now welcome on Sam Howell
from the Washington Commanders,
very special guest.
It is one question with the quarterback.
We're not gonna do this every week,
but we will do it when it pops up.
We appreciate Sam joining us.
Sam, I think you know how this works.
We all get one question.
I actually have a second one from Hank,
who's not here.
He's golfing right now.
So one question with the quarterback
with Sam Howell, Washington commanders
starting quarterback two and a half.
I'll start.
My question is when it comes to listening to what the media says,
do you ever take into account people who are saying like you suck,
but they're doing it because they're talking from a place of hurt and
lashing out about their own team sucking?
Does that, does that, do you give that a pass if someone's like,
oh, Sim hell sucks, but really they're just in pain because their own team and own quarterback socks.
Hypothetically speaking.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously I don't pay too much attention to it.
But I mean, everyone has an opinion.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but there is a lot of people out there that are frustrated with their own teams and like to take it out on other teams.
But I'm a fan too, so I understand it.
Yeah. But I don't, so I understand it.
But I don't want to just have to do it.
Okay, all right, good.
Yeah, because like it'd be crazy if people did that
and just tried to lash out and said you suck,
even though you don't suck.
Hypothetically, if they were hurt just because they
would expect a great thanks from their own quarterback.
Right, hurt people hurt people.
That's the saying, right?
Yeah, nah, I hear you.
Who's your favorite team? The bears are doing really well this year. Oh,
third up, man, Justin's a good player, man, I've figured out. Okay, yeah, that's that's
nice. There you go. I've never said a bad word about you. Sam, my first question is not really
well, I'll just start with a statement. I love you. Thank you. And then my actual question is, uh, have you gotten to
shake Josh Harris's hand yet? Because I saw the, you know, the bad tape that went out on Monday
night football earlier this season. And Joe Buck kind of entrapped him into a weird handshake
where he just kind of like put his hand in Josh's chest. And of course, Josh is a nice
guy. So he's going to shake his hand. But from a guy that I assume you've shaken his
hand, can you tell us what his actual hand shake is like? Oh, it's great. It's exactly what you expect. He's he's a great dude, man. Yeah,
I've been around a few times. I like clippers. Funny man. They did him dirty with that one. Yeah,
he's a good man. He comes around a lot, which is cool for us to see. We see the owner all time,
and he's in the locker room after games, every single game, he's at every game.
So it's just, it's a fun time to be a part of his organization,
but Josh, man, Mr. Harris has been awesome.
So it's an exciting time to be a part of his franchise.
I agree, I agree.
Yes, all right, Jake.
Hey Sam, Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast.
Thank you for joining us today.
So your documented diet has gone viral.
You've never had a burger or steak.
So I'm not going to ask you again about that.
I am going to ask you what will it take
in terms of football success this season
for us to get you to have a burger or steak.
Oh, good question.
That's a great question.
Great question.
If we win the Super Bowl, I have a steak.
Yeah, with us.
With us.
We'll dine on.
We'll be based on steak together. Medium rare plus. Y'all have to take me to the best steak in the world wherever we I have a stake. Yeah, with us with us, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll dine on. Yeah, we'll be on stake together, medium rare plus.
Y'all have to take me to the best stake in the world, wherever we
all think the best, wherever has the best stake in the world.
That's where we'll go.
Okay, South America. Yeah, we'll go to Argentina.
Yeah, that's a long trip for a
thing. Then when I take, when I take one by
if you're on, I don't like it. Y'all can't.
Okay, that's fine. That's fine.
You will like it. You'll love it. You'll love it.
Max.
Hey, Sam Max here, producer, part of my take podcast.
I know you're not playing the Eagles this week, but I just want to know if you've seen any tape on Jalen Carter and if you're scared.
Yeah, the tape hasn't come up on the Eagles yet.
It's not my when I play the Eagles, but actually yeah, I'm serious sorry. He's doing a good job. He's a heck of a player.
So I'm excited for the matchup.
Okay. Great answer.
That's a great answer.
That was a dirty question.
Yeah, that was a dirty question.
It's supposed to be a question about Sam or the commander.
It's not about your father's.
That's an interesting vision.
Yeah, you got to be ready for it.
You got to be ready for it.
All right, last question from Hank.
This is Hank's question, not me.
This is Hank.
In 2021, Big Cat tweeted,
I'm a Sam Howell guy.
I love him with that said, wait, question mark,
because you had a picture that your face looks really fat.
And then you replied, I'm a Big Cat guy.
I love him with that said, wait,
do you think that Big cat actually is fat?
That was kind of mean of you.
Well, does big cat think that I'm fat?
That picture, yes, you looked fat.
It was just a bad angle.
Like bad angles happen.
Yeah, well, there has been some bad angles of you or you do look kind of fat as well.
Okay.
Alright, fair.
This is Hank's question, by the way.
That's, that's a bad picture.
That's a good looking guy.
No, you are a very good looking guy.
That's, that's, that's, that's,
I was literally just telling Sean,
our media guy here,
just, I was telling him about that interaction
on Twitter, I was like,
yeah, they're definitely gonna bring that up.
It was, I, rarely am I surprised with,
like something coming back at me and like, you know,
backfire, because I usually can sense like, I'll lob it up so that I,
it can backfire on purpose.
That one, I was like, fuck, he's right.
That's shocking for you to be, for you to be like, wow,
his face looks kind of fat and not expect.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Wow, this guy looks kind of short in this picture.
Yeah, I was, I'm a big sim hell guy.
I love to watch you at UNC.
It's a face, it's a face designed to absorb contact.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a bad picture,
though. You have to admit. Like, I think it was maybe the day. I don't remember the picture, but
it might have been bad. Yeah. Yeah. I worked on my I worked on my figures and stuff. Yeah, you got a
nice jaw jaw line right now. All right. Do you have one question for us? I do. Okay. I do. But
if you all could play any position on any team in sports, what position and what team would it be?
Well, that's a good quote.
I would like to be, I've said this before,
but I would like to be the Kentucky Derby winning horse.
Wow.
Yeah, it would be awesome because you just,
you run one race and then you don't have to work ever again
and then the rest of your life, you're just having sex.
I would say when I thought of this question,
I was not expecting that response.
Yeah, it'd be good. I wouldn't expect it. I would like to be maybe a middle reliever
for like the San Diego Padres. That seems like a pretty good life. Like no media scrutiny.
A great life. Yeah. Just hang out, pitch every few days, play a lot of golf. Like your team probably
is going to suck. Who cares? You're doing your job. That
feels like a good spot to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Certainly. Certainly.
I'm bad place.
Guaranteed contract. Yeah. Right. Right. Jake. Yeah. And my childhood, it was shortstop
for the New York Yankees. A lot of pressure. Yeah. I can handle it. That's too much pressure.
Yeah. But I can feel jitter shoes. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't think so max
Pinchator that comes in and tries to hit bombs
We what about you Sam
me yeah
Yeah, I had to say the starring core back from Washington
Or professional golfer. Yeah, that was Hank's answer actually. Yeah, you covered that one. Yeah, yeah, it's a good life. Yeah, good life.
All right, well Sam. Thank you so much. Best of luck rest of the season. Hopefully we see you. We'll get you back on for a longer interview, but thanks for doing one question with the quarterbacks. Pretty fun, right?
Yeah, for sure. Now I appreciate you guys having me on. Let's do it again. We'll'll see after we won the Super Bowl left hand up Sam and we'll be a left hand up. There we go. Yeah, I
Yeah, I think
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I did take two boxes home. Yes. They're so good
And I ate them at home and my kids had some too, but I ate most of it
Yeah, I've been I've been eating a lot of incrustables too. Oh the uncrustables so good. It's it's really the perfect meal
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It's a snack. No, Jake. Here's what you do you get two uncrustables
You have both of them put a peanut butter jelly in between the two.
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Uncrustable.
Maybe put a Snickers bar in the uncrustable.
No, that's dessert.
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Okay.
This took this new girl out on a date and got all inclusive at the Cardinals game.
Clearly flexing.
Is that a flex?
Really depends on the talking baseball or football.
St. Louis, I think both are in a flex.
Yeah, neither one.
I think that's the opposite of a flex, right?
Yeah.
All inclusive. Like, that's a lot of a flex. Yeah, neither one. I think that's the opposite of a flex, right? Yeah. All inclusive.
Like, that's a lot of farts.
Yeah.
You're gonna fart a lot.
No babe, these hot dogs are free.
No, yeah, no, no, the best part is
you can just keep going back for the chicken fingers.
No, you don't have to tip.
Yeah.
Well, it's good illusion.
She was right behind me in the buffet line
and after two full plates of nachos,
I couldn't control my fart.
Nope.
So it took out half the line,
including the girl behind me, who is five one.
It's a truth, dude.
If you go to an all-inclusive for the baseball game,
it's fart city.
That's all you're gonna do for the rest of the day.
Have you just eaten so many things?
Wait, what do they mean?
It took out a girl who was five one.
He's probably a tall guy, so it's probably
right at the ass level.
Yeah, ass to face.
I said he blamed it on the kid that was standing in front of him.
Oh, okay, smart.
But we know as you.
Also just blame it on the buffet.
The guy in front of him was definitely fat too.
Yeah, dude, dude, he always blame it on the fat guy.
Yeah, he always just put it on the fat guy.
But yeah, when you do the,
when you do the all you can eat at a baseball game,
oh my god, by the third inning
I'm a toxic wasteland
It rules though and then dessert cart comes
Marone
Jake from Blacksburg. Oh, hey Jake. I was serving food to an old family friend who's eating with his elderly blind dad
serving food to an old family friend who's eating with his elderly blind dad.
That's already sounds like a movie.
As I was saying, by B-Y to them, I attempted to shake the father's hand.
Did you just spelling shame him?
Well, he's trying to trip me up.
By and by.
Yeah.
All right.
How would you pronounce it if it was B-Y-E?
I don't know.
I tend to shake the father's hand just out of habit.
And as I was holding my hand in front of him,
while he was just staring into blank space.
Space.
Whoa.
As I pulled my hand back up, he sensed it and raised his hand up.
And I left him hanging.
Oh.
Completely embarrassed.
He sensed it.
Continue to avoid them to this day.
That's like the old story of Shaq and Stevie Wonder.
When they met each other, I think Shaq waved at him. Yeah. Stevie Wonder, I old story of Shaq and Stevie Wonder when they met each
other, I think Shaq waved at him. Yeah. Stevie Wonder, I think since didn't wave back.
I think that's these things happen. You just got to rectify it as fast as possible. Yeah.
Yeah. I've had those moments before where it's like, yeah, you just, you make a mistake.
You say something to a blind person and you were like, wait, you just, you make a mistake, you say something to a blind person,
you're like, wait shit, that was stupid.
Yeah, it's not the first time they've heard of.
No, definitely not.
Oh, this is tough.
Okay.
Been dating my girlfriend for a few months now and Saturday went to our first wedding
together.
She was the maid of honor and I was the plus one.
After slugging multiple cocktails when I'm more of a beer guy,
I ran into the bride's grandmother and told her how great
the wedding was and how much they looked alike.
I could tell right away you were her grandmother.
Her response, I'm not her grandmother.
It was actually her mother.
Oh no.
That is so bad.
You should just leave.
You need to leave.
Yeah, you gotta break up.
It's not gonna work.
You gotta change your phone.
You're just gonna change your dress.
You're gonna turn it into a social security.
Sabotage you.
She's gonna be the mother-in-law from hell.
Yeah, you need a new life.
You need everything.
No, it's not his girlfriend's mother.
Oh, that's right.
So girlfriend's best friend's mother.
Yeah, that's tough. So girlfriend's best friend's mother. Yeah, that's tough.
But still, that is, because that is,
that woman is definitely in your girlfriend's life
in some capacity.
You just ruined her wedding.
You're just ruined her wedding.
You're a daughter's wedding.
You ruined her life.
You should have tried to hit on her afterwards.
That was your only hope.
Yeah, you should have been like,
I'm actually, I said grandmother,
because I'm like, PFT, I'm in a grandmother's.
Yeah, just neg the shit out of her.
Oh my god, that is, that's one of those ones too.
30 years from now, it will randomly just pop in your head,
like remember I said that.
Yeah, and you're gonna cringe, you're gonna turn red.
Oh man, so she wasn't that hot or very hot.
Sounds like she was hot.
Well, no, I mean, she was hot, maybe hot but old.
Yeah, that's okay.
Maybe you know what, get her gift card
to like a plastic surgeon.
Yeah, that'll be nice.
Get those crows feet out.
Last one, I was on a workout with my camera off
and thought my mic was muted until I realized it wasn't.
I was farting the whole time.
Yeah.
I got a couple in and then as I was scrolling on my phone,
I noticed a pause and my boss asked,
who's making the fart noises?
I didn't say a word and muted my mic right away.
Do you think people know it was me?
So the camera to me isn't the worst part.
It's the microphone that you're worried about, right?
Yeah, but the camera could be bad
because you're lifting your leg.
And you maybe even sniffing it.
You should just start making fart noise.
Yeah. Sorry, I think that's hilarious. So I just start making fart, and we're like, yeah.
Sorry, I think that's hilarious.
So I'm sorry.
I realize now I can't do that.
I'm so afraid of this that I triple check every time.
When you're on a Zoom call, you don't want to get tubed.
No, it's the worst thing that happened.
Just put a piece of duct tape
over your video camera on your phone.
Yeah, that's the tough one.
Although everyone fart's gone. Although everyone's farts, come on.
This guy's been dudes.
Would that, that was you Hank, that happened to?
No.
Oh, I thought it was your jumbo.
Cause you take somebody, work calls.
So I thought maybe...
Is somebody wanna tell us?
You're a fart on a work call before Hank?
Yeah, obviously. Hmm. You have've referred on a work call and then submit
The time you farted on a work call to a podcast
Know what I was gonna know I know I just I noticed that you read that one the cleanest of all yeah
It almost like it was for memory. Yeah, you think Dave's doing work calls like I don't know
I think maybe Edog you don't have a boss big E I mean David's David's my boss, but he's not doing work calls like I don't know maybe E dog you don't have a boss biggie I mean David
David's my boss but he's not doing work calls well not when you're farting I mean I don't want to show
up to that I fart all time I got I have no like I should have more shame about farting than I do
I agree like when I'm around you guys I just just don't care. Oh, that's just us.
That's just love.
It's usually just an improvement in the smell
in the room with somebody fart.
Yeah, true.
That's how bad the room usually smells.
Yeah, whenever someone's like,
oh, I wonder what that room smells like.
It's always bad.
It's worse than you think.
It's bad.
Okay.
Friday.
What?
Memes.
Memes laughing in your face.
Friday, we will do the NFL preview week three,
and we also have our good friend Brooks on,
because the boys are playing a little golf on Thursday.
Playing in the pro-amp.
Playing in a little pro-amp.
I am nervous.
I don't know what the spectator situation's gonna be like.
It's zero.
At all?
Yeah.
Good, because we would probably send people to the hospital
Yeah, for sure with our bad show for sure for sure. Do we have to walk? Yeah
Be good exercise
Who's gonna caddy for it good question? Who's caddy? Do we have caddies? We should get caddies if we don't have caddies
I'm just only gonna bring well actually know in that I'm on the I mean you you guys must see when you fill out the thing right stop it with a
Paperwork
Corporate Hank in his parts. I filled that out at ass. Are you bringing your own caddy which would you would assume means they're providing them?
Okay, okay, good would great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully
You're gonna have to caddy for a sink if.
If there's no caddy.
All three bags.
No, we'll consolidate.
The MPAT, we'll consolidate.
We'll bring Jerry.
Yeah, well, no, we'll put it, we'll put it on.
We'll pull him on.
Oh, shit.
We should actually have Jerry bring beer, caddy.
He's the worst caddy.
Yeah, no, he can't make it.
Yeah, that would be awesome.
Go watch the rider cup.
Yeah.
Go watch the rider cup. Plug, go watch the writer cup plug God
Okay numbers three
18 you go
20 99
69
One why you saying yes
I've got one I didn't
68
Damn it. All right I see everyone on
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Take your heart
Take your heart
Take your heart
Hit it to your heart I'm so happy to be here
Certainly, let's just say
I'm saying, it's about me
Stumbling a little bit
Smelling and learning the life
We're so gay
Say I'm to me
I still pray that you to be safe and sorry Take on me
Take on me
Take on me
Take on me
Take on me
Take on me
I know you're fine I'm so excited I'm so excited I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me
Take on me
Take me on me
Take on me
Take on me
Take me on me
Take on me day we go
Take on the day we go
Take on the day we go
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