Pardon My Take - Rams HC Sean McVay, USA Basketball Is Back, Mt Rushmore of Yellow Things Gets Contentious + Fyre Fest And Grit Week Recap

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

USA Basketball is back after an unreal game against Serbia. Rooting for Lebron was fun (for a game) and Steph Curry lights the world on fire (00:00:00-00:28:35). Mt Rushmore of Yellow things gets cont...entious and absolutely ridiculous (00:28:35-01:02:28). Rams HC Sean McVay joins the show to talk grit, his evolution as a HC, winning the Super Bowl, clock management and new plays we want him to run (01:02:28-01:39:43). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and a recap of a great grit week (01:39:43-01:56:24).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, the finale of Grit Week, although we have some other interviews from Grit Week coming next week, some big ones. We have Coach Sean McVeigh on the show. Awesome time with Coach McVeigh. We've known Coach McVeigh now for seven years in our relationship. I feel like he's in a very good spot. He's very comfortable with us. Yeah. He told me to shut the fuck up at one point. Yeah. He was a good dude. He came in, started joking around right off the bat, back slapping, cussing, talking shit. Great time. Great time. So we're going to do Fire Fest, end of Grit Week, Grit Week memories. We also have
Starting point is 00:00:46 one of my favorite Mount Rushmore's that we've done so far, because it got contentious and very funny. The Mount Rushmore of Yellow Things, which we taped on the bus. We are now back in Chicago for the beginning of the show. We wanted to make sure we talked about the USA big win over Serbia. So we got a great Friday sending in the weekend. We did bring back some of the animosity from the Mount Rushmore debate. We just, after the game was over, the USA-Serbia debate, we were just in the game like gave,
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Starting point is 00:04:26 are still in the RV. We got back tonight because we have rough and rowdy tomorrow. Go to buyRNR.com. It's going to be great. But we got back and we watched one of my favorite basketball games. That was a thrilling, thrilling basketball game. Serbia versus USA. Serbia gave us everything they had. Jokic played 38 out of 40 of the minutes. They were hitting whappen threes in the first half. But our guys, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid, and Devin Booker, the five guys who basically played the entire fourth quarter, they can ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And it's awesome. It's awesome to be able to root for those guys. Yeah. Like I, now I get it. I get it. I haven't had a lot to root for as a Wizards fan in recent memory. You as a Bulls fan, it kicks so much ass being able to root for LeBron James. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And being able to root for Steph Curry. In that moment. Being able to root for Joel Embiid. I was rooting for Joel Embiid today. Joel Embiid, I'll say he's more of a roller coaster. He was incredible in the fourth quarter. Thank you. I'm not, there's no Joel Embiid slander on this show today. But Max, I also had a little peek into why you are the way you are because Joe Embiid was on fire. He was playing great, setting screens, hitting shots, and then he had like two or three possessions where he looked like he didn't know how to walk. And then he went back to being great. And I was
Starting point is 00:05:55 like, this is why Max is probably going to have the shortest lifespan of any of us in this room. He was just standing still at times. And he would just like forget to walk down court. But not slander. But then he would do something awesome. Like he got the ball times. Yeah, and he would just like forget to walk down court, but not slander But then but then he did he would do something awesome like right He got the ball out at the perimeter and he drove to the basket Probably got fouled a little bit on his arm threw down an awesome dunk And then I've never seen a player do this before but he somehow landed on his head after he let go of the rim
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah, I don't know. It looked like he got tased on the way down It was crazy and just I I saw some people saying that maybe he was trying to minimize the impact on his knees. So he's just not landing on his feet anymore. He's the opposite of a cat. He just lands on his head. I've told you guys that. Not the head, not landing on the head, but he chooses to fall because it's less... He falls well. It's less impact on your knees if you fall to the ground. Yes. Well, he certainly did that because I think he landed on like his ear. But it was still cool. It was funny to watch, but I was
Starting point is 00:06:47 rooting for Joel Embiid. It was fun to root for your country. One of the greatest Americans of all time. Awesome American American hero. He also was on the court at the end. Last guy to leave the court just playing the heel versus the French fans, which I love. So that's the French are going to hate him on Saturday. Saturday is going to be electric. But yeah, that was, that was such a fun game. And it was, it was fun too because of Serbia and how well they played and also how much shit they talked. Uh, uh, Bogdanovic doing the, he was, he was talking shit to Mello who Mello should be the coach in next Olympics. Mo literally called a play for Kevin Durant from the far sideline. He was like clear out, clear out.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It was when Kevin Durant had the sauce. I think that's what, uh, I think that's what, what's his name? Dwayne Wade? Noah Eagle. Noah Eagle used the kaboom as well. He used the kaboom. He said he did the cross, the sauce. The sauce, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:41 The cross and the sauce. Yes. So that's at communion where you do, you do the stations, you touch your shoulders, then you throw back the wine. Yeah. But it was every guy. That was the best part. It was like Devin Booker hit that big three off the inbound.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Steph Curry was insane, 36 points, couldn't miss. Jerome Bede had big moments. LeBron's two layups that were just so impossibly good. Driving the lane, he had a triple double. Kevin Durant being like, get out of the way everyone. Mello just called my number, I'm gonna score this. It was just fun. That was the top basketball game I watched.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It was fun, and when they were kicking the ball around the perimeter, it would be like, okay, LeBron's got this, and then he'd pass it to KD who looked kind of open. I'm like, fuck yeah, I get to watch KD make a basket for the United States. Then KD would pass again. And it's Steph Curry that's got the ball. I'm like, oh shit, these are all awesome players to watch.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Why have they not all been on the court at the same time for the entire game? Yeah, well, and so Steve Kerr, I'm actually gonna give Steve Kerr credit because he threw changing up the lineup so much and then when we cut it to like six points in the third quarter and he's like, let me just throw in the bad lineup again. And then they went the lead balloon back to 13. Steve Kerr, sense of the dramatic, he gave us that finish. If he had just kept with his best
Starting point is 00:09:03 players the whole second half, we probably would have won by double digits. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I thought going into this tournament, it seemed like he wanted to get some of the close games out of the way, and that's maybe why he was taking over the lineup. But I don't know why he just continues to do it. Well, I think our guys are old, which that was also the cool part. Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid, LeBron, Steph, I don't know how many MVPs they have between the four of them a lot, but they're all older and so they probably need their rest. But there was that one moment, it was
Starting point is 00:09:36 the end of the third quarter where we cut it close and then it went back to 13 and I think Bam was shooting a corner three and it was just like, what the fuck? What are we doing guys? What are we doing guys? What are we doing? But credit Steve Kerr for making an interesting game and one of a highlight Olympic basketball game, because that was more fun than US just killing everyone. And Serbia was awesome. Jokic was awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:59 All their guys hit threes in the first half. And I just, it felt like we all could come together and we all had a part in this game. Yeah. Hank like when you. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I'm an American first and foremost before anything else. So I was happy for our country. Yeah. I think Steve Kerr is a fucking idiot. So you're a guy. I mean first I'm an American first. California is part of America. Didn't know if you knew that. Well they don't want to be. Even his own player, Draymond Green, was chirping him on Twitter saying you know you gotta mess with the lineups.
Starting point is 00:10:29 They're clearly not working on the first half. You have Jason Tatum, one of the best players in the NBA. Didn't play at all. He didn't play? Didn't play. Oh. DNP. I actually do think Tatum should have played.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That made no sense. There was, the first half when we were going under these screens and not switching and it was like to knock Any of them rebounds just put Tatum out there. He could switch on everything. Yeah Crash the board score. It was weird, but at the end of the day I'm I'm it was fun to root as an American for you know for the boys It was it is it would have been an all-time choke if they named metal. Yeah. Yeah I mean it would have been really bad and this is what I love about the Olympics. This is what I love about the world cup. This is what I love about just all international competitions. You get to just be like, fuck the world. We're
Starting point is 00:11:12 America. Suck my dick. We're the bullies. We're going to beat the shit out of you. And you get root for your country and you get to feel good about it. After the game, Kevin Durant, they asked him what it's like representing America. And he said, there's a lot of bullshit that happens in our country, but there's a lot of good stuff. I loved that quote slim Reaper. Yep. That's it. He said it Yeah, that should be that should be a presidential slogan. Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit, but there's a lot of good stuff, too So that's a very positive way to handle it hang. It's also like Jason Jason Jason Tatum Jalen Brown, they're going to have all the motivation in the world. That is a good thing for the, you know, I'm rooting for America, but after this is over,
Starting point is 00:11:50 the Celtics, like they're going to be set up for a repeat. You're in the spot now where you would actually prefer Jason Tatum not to play in the gold medal game because you want full on revenge Jason Tatum to be like, you played a bunch of old guys and it's my league kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. I do want to give us some credit too.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah. As Americans for this victory, because we did something that we sacrificed for this too. We actually rooted for LeBron James today. Yeah. Like with our whole hearts. I was so happy watching LeBron when he was driving to the hole.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He was incredible. He was awesome today. Triple double. There was no snark in the back of my head watching Him I wasn't thinking about how maybe he looks a little bit older in France I bet maybe I don't know how time zones work. He's like five and a half hours older than normal Yeah, I was I did maybe say that his legacy was on the line at halftime. You were motivating. Yeah, right I was tough love we also found out that the key for Embiid to play against Jokic is he just needs LeBron to cover Jokic.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yes, he needs LeBron to put a big body on him. He was doing everything, LeBron. What about Jokic guarding Embiid? What about it? What about it? 8 of 11 and Jokic was guarding Embiid. Yeah, no, we just played 38 minutes. We just said that Embiid played an awesome game.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, we're not, listen, we're being positive. Embiid was great today. Everybody on the team contributed today. Almost Bede played an awesome game. Yeah, we're not, listen, we're being positive. We're being positive. And Bede was great today. Everybody on the team contributed today. Almost everybody on the team contributed today. Yes. And Drew Holliday, Devin Booker, Devin, Derek White, and Bam, all played a total of 61 minutes, nine points, three rebounds.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Ooh. That was the death lineup, the reverse death lineup. Yeah, but everyone contributed. Everybody in this room, everybody in that room. We all came together. Listen, rooting for, you have to make sacrifices for your country sometimes. And I can't think of a bigger sacrifice that we would make
Starting point is 00:13:35 than openly rooting and admiring LeBron James. I'd agree with you. And I don't regret it. And I'll do it again against France. Credit to us for being the bigger men here. So yeah, it was an awesome game. It was a lot of fun to watch. Olympics are great.
Starting point is 00:13:49 We also had, so Noah Lyles won the 100. We talked about that on Monday, I want to say, or maybe it was Wednesday. I don't know what time it is. I think it was Monday. He won by 0.005 seconds. Yes. But he lost in the 200.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And then he did the savviest thing ever. He got into a wheelchair because he had COVID. Yeah, he got it. The COVID wheelchair. Well, he's got asthma, too. Yeah. So the old COVID asthma double threat. Now, incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:16 The 100 meter race was awesome. I did see a clip of him before the race today. He was just using all his energy, whooping up the crowd, going crazy with COVID. But again, wheelchair, that kind of negates it all. It does negate it all. There was also an awesome, awesome moment where a French lady won a race, I think it was the 1500, and then she ran over to the stands and then she proposed to her boyfriend in the stands. She brought him down to the front row, got on a knee
Starting point is 00:14:43 and proposed to him. Didn't that happen in the Boise state game, right? At the end of that bowl game and people got mad at the football player because they were like, why are you, why are you making the proposal like, you know, at your biggest moment? Yeah, I think you're allowed to do that. I think it's there. Love is love. There was another time, uh, earlier in the Olympics where I believe it was a Chinese ping pong player came off and her boyfriend proposed to her after she won the gold. That's fucked up. That is fucked up. You can't steal her moment. He basically was just stole the whole moment. So everyone's like, Oh, you got engaged. Oh
Starting point is 00:15:15 yeah. And also I guess you want a gold medal. Yeah. If you're that guy, you have to, was he pressured into saying yes in that moment? Cause you can't run away. You have to say yes. She'll catch you. She's fast as fuck. Yeah. I also watched a steeple chase today. That was awesome. Some very is it called steeplechase? Yeah, some dude ate shit Yeah, he ate shit and then that one maybe was a steeplechase might have been another race There was actually a finished the second place guy finished point oh oh three Seconds ahead of the third place guy. Yeah, I don't know how they do this technology. I don't know either So what do we have left? Do we have we got more track and field?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Relays marathon always ends it I think right doesn't know I think I thought breakdancing was last this year is it I Thought the marathon always like they run into the stadium on that Sunday morning. That's it might be one of the last ones Yeah, we were up right now 30 to 29 on China the total medal count Over we've won that easily, but we got to win the gold got to win the gold and if you look at that like per capita We're absolutely dominating china. Yeah, they've got like two billion people over there Is it two billion now? No, i'm i've grown. I just knew it was more than a big Once you get over a billion, it's it's two billion. Yeah Yeah, you lose track you lose track of it. They've got enough. I'll put it that way. There's okay China We get it thing marathon is the last woman's marathon. Yeah, they do it they go into the stadium. It's very cool
Starting point is 00:16:34 Okay Other things Pedro Garfal got fired. Yes, Doc's manager So I don't know why they should give him a little more time. So yeah, he hasn't implemented his system yet We're gonna see what he can do. I Would not coach the White Sox if you Grady Sizemore is coaching him Yeah, Grady Sizemore is gonna step in as on an interim basis for him. Not not full-time yet, but if you offered me Three million dollars a year to coach the Chicago White Sox. I would say no to man to manage that team Think about how shitty 10 million a year 10 million a year
Starting point is 00:17:06 No, no, I wouldn't because remember what it was a three-year contract three-year contract guaranteed So 30 million total and yeah, I mean Pedro Gifford didn't get fired for a very long time Do I get unlimited milkshakes that they have at at the White Sox field? Yes. Okay. Yes, then I'm in So funny that they fired him now like what what's even the They've what's the point? I think it's like you did they lose two out of three to the A's and then that that did it They're like okay. Well, they but they also broke their 21 game losing streak. They did yeah I would not know I would not want to imagine imagine what a shitty job that would be no it's suck It's just miserable everyone's upset all the time. It's hot. You have to go to that
Starting point is 00:17:47 shitty stadium with nobody in it. But you also have no pressure. We might get fired if you lose the ace. No, but again, Pedro Grafalt didn't get fired for a very long time. Very long time. He had the longest leash. I think there's, I saw some stat where it was maybe over 100 games or 150 games. He was the third worst manager of all time. They've been playing baseball a really long time.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Really long time. A really long time. Kind of unfair to put that on him for his managing job. Was that really, how much of that was him versus how much was the team, just the overall vibe of the organization? Yeah. Yeah. And again, I think I mentioned earlier this week, the worst is the guy, the doctor, when everyone went to war. Yeah. Dentist.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah. Who managed, I think, the Phillies. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Bad company. Okay. Anything else? I mean, Grit Week was great. We've got one of our guests from Grit Week was in the news the other day. Oh, Jim Harbaugh. Yes, you told me you saved this for me. Yes. Yes. I asked what a show cause was and you said I found out a couple of years ago, but I forgot, but I'm going to find out again. Yeah, I just need to jog the memory.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Okay. And I was excited. So I was 75% correct with what I thought that it was. So Harbaugh just got a show cause penalty from the NCAA. They found a bunch of like, I don't know, the level one, level two, level two A infractions. Nobody knows what any of this bullshit means. It was just like, okay, you did some stuff, you wouldn't cooperate,
Starting point is 00:19:11 so we're gonna hammer you on stuff. This is, cause it's very confusing. This is from, this is not stallions. Yeah, I believe there was some stallions involved in this. But this is, I think this was the cheeseburger, the COVID recruiting. So this is a think this was the the the cheeseburger, the COVID recruiting. So this is a four year show cause for recruiting violations. Yeah. So this is this isn't even stallions yet because the NCAA moves so slow. So what they did was they tried to interview him
Starting point is 00:19:36 and he was like, I'm just not going to talk to you. And then they tried to which legally speaking is the right thing. Yeah. He watched too many of those shut the fuck up Friday commercials on YouTube Mm-hmm. He's like, yeah, I don't have to say shit to you. I'm gonna plead the fifth There's no Fifth Amendment in college football because the NCAA considered this themselves to be like bigger than the Constitution Yep, so he did not cooperate. Nobody cooperated with the NCAA at Michigan Some people did some people lied Harbaugh got punished for all of it. Harbaugh is getting a four-year show cause which means Harbaugh got punished for all of it. Harbaugh is getting a four-year show cause which means So he's not in college football anymore, right? But if another team were to hire him in the next four years
Starting point is 00:20:15 they would have to go in front of the NCAA and Explain why that school shouldn't get punished more For hiring Harbaugh got it on top of all the other stuff that he would bring to the table. I mean, he's gonna just stay in, he's never gonna go back to college. Probably not. That was his dream job. Yeah. The question is, this sounds like,
Starting point is 00:20:33 I know right now, if you listen really closely, if you listen to The Wind, go outside right now, or if you're in the car, roll down your windows and just pause the show and listen to the wind. And that sound you hear is Mike Florio typing away on how Roger Goodell should actually punish Jim Harbaugh because the NFL should not be a safe harbor for someone who does something illegal in the NCAA.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Oh, Florio has already done that. Okay. There it is. I hope you did that four days ago when you were driving to work. That was Floreo. That was the earthquake. This is going to be his favorite story for at least a week. I know that because I remember when he did it with Jim Tressel. He's going to love this. What he did, and that was the earthquake we felt on Tuesday night when we were recording, was Floreo just banging away at the space bar on his computer. He took the line of reasoning of when Tressle did that at Ohio
Starting point is 00:21:27 State and he got fired basically for letting his players get tattoos in exchange for merchandise, which sounds... Everything that was illegal 10 years ago sounds so stupid now. And also kind of awesome. And awesome, yeah. It's good. Things that were crimes 10 years ago are just awesome now. Yeah, game cleats for a tattoo? Cool. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Very cool. Very normal, actually. So, Trestle, the NFL told him that they reserved the right to punish him if he were to get a job at the NFL for stuff he did in college. Florio is now saying, well, remember what you did to Trestle. I wonder if the NFL is going to take that precedent that they've already set or if they're just going to completely ignore it for Harbaugh So something that nobody was thinking about yet
Starting point is 00:22:09 Floreo raised his hand right Florida the thing where he was like you didn't collect her homework yet Yeah, when the teacher wasn't gonna do it This is so good. Del is not doing anything and floor is like hey remember trestle Are you gonna do that with Harbaugh or are you not gonna do that with Harbaugh this story? Yeah, this was made for Mike Floreo He basically got a gift from heaven and he's just this is this is an entire the rest of his summer is this It makes no sense though to punish somebody at a new job for something they did at their old job Well, tell that to Mike Florio. It doesn't make any sense. He doesn't like that. He doesn't like that
Starting point is 00:22:38 You got it. You got to keep them keep the Keep the keep the torch rights Jim Harbaugh. Don't let him run to the NFL. Yeah, I mean, we like Jim Harbaugh, so we're biased. Very, very biased. We very much admit. There were a bunch of training camp fights, too. Nice. A lot of training camp fights.
Starting point is 00:22:55 DK Metcalf took his helmet off, swung it at a guy. Love that. Yeah. I think the Guardian scrum caps are actually doing more harm than good. Yeah. I think their players are ripping them off, and they're like, oh, it's not that hard of a helmet. I can swing it at a guy's head now. It's like a pillow fight.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's like a pillow fight. It's encouraging bad behavior. Hank, are... Yeah, like a Nerf fight. It's basically a Nerf gun. It's like, oh, I can shoot you in the head with this. It won't hurt. It's just a suction cup.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Hank, what's going on in this Patriots game? Did Drake May play? Yeah, two for three. Okay. 19 yards. Couple drives. That is... I mean, in terms of preseason games, that's pretty much a perfect game. You also had hate. I've
Starting point is 00:23:33 never had to pay attention before either. This is a, this is a new thing. We had a, uh, quite a glimpse into, uh, the battered brain of memes, which means that I talked the other night about, we just have to stick together more because our franchises are like a joke that everyone just kicks our ass about. But memes, I was asking him to do something and he was like, I want to watch the first Patriots drive. I was like, why? He's like, I want to see if they're going to suck or not. It was Jacoby Berset in the rain against the Carolina Panthers preseason game one. Yeah. And he was going to make his judgment on this entire Patriots season. But you never know.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Never miss an opportunity to see your biggest opponent just stinking it up. I think it was also like a haunting thing that he was saying because I think he thinks and knows that they're not going to be a good football team, but he just sees the jersey and he's like, I can't actually believe it. I have to see it with my own eyes. Is that fair to say memes that is correct. I Completely understand where you're coming from. Yeah, there's some weird shit going on with a new the new NFL graphics to the the landing zone of the kickoff is wild. Is it the blue area? Yeah, they wrap it in blue Why what happened green so the green zone that remember that still exists when it's like that's how far you have to get. Where's the green zone? Green zones like I don't remember what it's a bunch of yards that you have to get for your fuel goal range maybe
Starting point is 00:25:01 from No, that's the yellow line. No. No, but like that in between was a green zone. No. Yeah, but that made She's been we've been out of practice. We're gonna do our new new faces New places or same face as new places on Monday to get ourselves a little sharper the green zone NFL Broadcast I feel like they didn't think do it. Green zone might be to get to the field goal line. It was bad because they stopped the area of the field from the offense's own 15 yard line to the opponent's 20 yard. What?
Starting point is 00:25:36 I, I, NBC did it and then they took it away, did they not? I thought they kept it. Oh, because it made no sense. We'll figure it out. All right, all right, I got it. It's preseason for podcasters too. Hold on, because it made no sense. We'll figure it out. All right, all right. I got it. It's preseason for podcasters too. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Talk amongst yourselves for a second. Hank and PFT. Hank, what was your favorite moment of the week? I like surfing. Surfing was fun. Video's out now. It felt more fun than it looks on camera, but... Yeah, it looks very lame.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It looks like we've got our dad behind us pushing us on a tricycle. But it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. It was a really good time. Do you feel like you just got out? What's up? Memes is right. Shout out memes.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's when the sky cam, and they do the green zone so it gives you better depth perception on how far you have to go to the first down. So it just goes to the yellow line. Yeah. Okay. And it actually was going to be the gray zone. Yeah. I don't like that. Feel good about that. Feel really good about it. Um, all right. Last thing. So tonight is rough and rowdy West Virginia. Please buy it by rnr.com. I'll be singing the national anthem. We have 25 fights, I believe. It's going to be a great night. So, uh, we had to get back from Grit Week,
Starting point is 00:26:45 but we still have a lot of Grit Week content coming out. So we did, uh, we have two, three more interviews coming out. A big one on Monday. Big, big one on Monday. Uh, couple videos, some vlogs. It was a great Grit Week. You guys all have fun? I had a great time. I had a blast, yeah. I always get off Grit Week, and you'll hear, because cuz we were taping firefest while we're still on the bus And I was talking about feeling old but the minute we get back from grit week. I'm just like I miss the boys
Starting point is 00:27:11 I have that moment where it's like the it's almost a feeling of like the end of a bachelor party, you know Yeah, by the way fellas what happened on grit week? We don't we're not gonna talk about everything, right? Yeah, some things are just kept amongst us that lunch We ate where we all just had explosive diarrhea right after. It was just one after another. That was one of the craziest things ever. All of us going to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:27:31 PFT was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. I was like, oh, man. I think I went instantly. And then when we got to the Rams facility, I was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. I went for like a half hour. I went three times while we were still sitting at the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. My butt hasn't recovered yet. It was crazy. I got one of those neck pillows that you put around your neck on a plane. I just sat on it for the entire flight back. Yeah. So great Grit Week. Thank you everyone who saw us, who came out.
Starting point is 00:27:55 We love doing Grit Week. We're already thinking about next year. We've already talked about maybe a couple NFC East places. Maybe, yeah. Possibly. maybe a couple NFC East places. Maybe. Yeah. Possibly. We heard you loud and clear. If you don't think that California was gritty enough, we're thinking about the French Riviera
Starting point is 00:28:11 for next Grit Week. Yeah. I do think the people we interviewed was very gritty and also the surfing video. I mean, go watch it right now. That was getting us into wetsuits and trying to tame the Pacific Ocean. Max looked like Joe Burrow walking around with just no back at all in his wetsuits and trying to tame the Pacific Ocean. Max looked like Joe Burrow walking around with just no back at all in his wetsuit. Yeah, zipper was broken.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It was broken before I got it. Max just screamed. He was just like, just so everyone knows the zipper was already broken. Okay, well now we're going to talk about this. We did the random number generator in the bus. Let's just do the real numbers, right? Yeah, we'll do the real one now that we're back. Yeah the real one. No numbers Numbers max have you ever gotten the lottery ball? I've gotten the number 20 17
Starting point is 00:28:56 11 you said 11. Yeah. Well, I thought for some reason I thought Hank was gonna say 56 8 11 was a good number. 42. 99 pug is on there. Yeah, 99 pug. What does Shane say, 21? 33. Mm.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Great Larry Bird jersey. 33. So many threes. Love you guys. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. It is brought to you by our friends at Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus is once again your home to stream the NFL on CBS all season long. I'm a Paramount Plus guy.
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Starting point is 00:30:03 Paramount Plus ad? I'm trying to Paramount Plus ad? Can't get my fit right. Okay, all right, you're getting your fit right. Paramount Plus is the best. Also, for the parents out there, Paw Patrol. Paw Patrol movie. Absolute awesome movie. Mirror of Kingstown too.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yes, so Paramount Plus, NFL, on CBS, all season long. Get Paramount Plus. Hank. You'll never guess, honestly, this is a little teaser, on which guest we had on the bus wearing this hat. You'll truly never guess it. Yeah, actually, you will never guess it, because we're never gonna air that interview.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Okay, yeah. No, we are. Okay, Mount Rushmore of Yellow things. This is gonna get contentious. This is gonna get contentious, we should say before too. Why? I don't understand why. It's already contentious right now. It's gonna to get contentious. We should say before to... I don't understand why. It's already contentious right now.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It's going to be cut and dry. No, it's not. Well, we should do a quick update. Hank has won Wednesday's Mount Rushmore. Congratulations to Hank. Thank you. Thank you. He is now four points up on PFT.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Shouts out to all the pregnant women. By the way, that one got me in trouble. I might have gotten a text being like you pick Navy Seals over pregnant women. And I was like, I was just trying to get Hank a win. Pregnant women killed Osama bin Laden. Yeah. So thanks for that, Hank. But you had the chance. I did. I had one one, but I was trying to get you a win. That's what we're going with. Sure. Yeah, uh Hank congratulations on the win you were up four points on PFT. Yeah, who's in last I am up six points on Hank Max is running away with it So it's max 50 points me 42 points Hank 36
Starting point is 00:31:36 PFT 32 it's not looking great for your boy right now, but that's fine There's there's a lot of season left in Mount Rushmore season a lot of time for Hank to collapse He's feeling himself right now, which I like no, I read Hank's acting like he's in first place, which I I absolutely love Yeah, and goes now you're gonna get confident. I'm a sneak up on you like a little monster in the car Yeah, I'm gonna grab you by the ankles. I'm gonna drag you down into the ocean. I'm gonna hold you under till you die Let's go And then this is this is what's gonna happen Hank you're. You're going to have to take a punishment out of the hat. It's not me versus you.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Then you're going to complain about it. And you're going to say it's unfair that I'm predicting the future right now. I want to see you do the punishment. I want to see PFT, because PFT is my dear friend and co-host of the show. And the punishment's going to happen during football season. And we work a lot during football season while you sit
Starting point is 00:32:25 on the couch and scroll Twitter. So, I would, it's not gonna get contentious. I would like PFT not to have to devote whatever, however many hours this stream is gonna take and I wanna see you do it. Would I notice? Your Twitter screen
Starting point is 00:32:39 time is probably 20,000 times more than mine. But I say, what did I say? What did I say? What? During the show. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that high anymore. Oh, you didn't say that. time is probably 20,000 times more than what I say. What I say, what I say what during the show, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's not that high. I didn't say that. I didn't say you sit on the couch, the couch that we do the show with the proverbial couch. Oh, I mean, I know you said I said on the show, you never said on the show. Okay. I was thinking about the couch in the fiction, the couch that you sit on in the, uh, during the show, multiple
Starting point is 00:33:02 couches upside. I'm sitting on a couch. Oh. Oh, Mr. Fancy Pants got a lot of couches. We got JD Hank over there. Yeah. Yeah, you want to fuck a couch? You got a couch fucking problem? You say couch, I don't instantly think of the studio. All I think about is that couch. What I notice in the standings, however, is that I think what happens more often than not
Starting point is 00:33:22 is I either strike out completely or I hit a home run. I'm either first or fourth. That's it. You're Adam Dunn. I'm actually, actually, sabrometrically a very good baseball player in today's game. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So let's not get contentious. No. We're on the bus. It's grit week. We've had a great grit week. It's been fun. Great week. I think the coaches have taught me.
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's like, I do love every question. What does great mean to you? And it's like, it's about, it's not about how you act when you're down. It's about how you act when you're up and just staying focused. And that's what I do. Yeah, and you're acting, you're acting real sharp. Real sharp. And a little fresh.
Starting point is 00:33:57 That's a compliment, but I'm not going to take it as a compliment. I'd like to put a bar of soap in your mouth. Okay. My rush word of yellow things. Backwards hat. Colin Coward would hate that. Yeah, my, about this. you're gonna get a bar of soap I think I do. Oh, wow. Yes. Hank, Max, me, Big Cat. We'll never, we'll never love it. Like just dive in. I was ready. I get surprised every time. Wait, the order comes out. I'm pretty worried that Hank's going to take my 1-1. Oh, no. Is there a 1-1? I have a 1-1. Does it go, bah? That's it. SpongeBob SquarePants. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's a reach. I had a different 1-1 and then I was re-looking at the board and I said, you know what, fuck it, let's take a shot. Like, the other 1-1 was kind of obvious and like, it doesn't really pop. So I went with SpongeBob. That was an audible and I feel good if the guy that's in first place wanted to take it. Wait, were you gonna take that? If I didn't say I think you're gonna take my 1-1?
Starting point is 00:35:02 But I had a different 1- one up until like 20 minutes ago And I was oh nice Okay, that's a really good one one. I was really bad. I almost didn't take it But I you were the one I knew was gonna take it like I was gonna maybe try and get it Yeah, right now. I was definitely taking that that was those easy first pick for me. I will go with Lemonade is my as my number one. Nice, nice. Well, I am very happy that this fell to me.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I'm going to go beer. Beer is the one-one. Yellow? Yeah, look it up. Google if beer is yellow. I have to be fully transparent here. I had beer, so I'm gonna defend PFT. Beer is yellow.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Okay, so that's where we're going. That's where we're going with this. What do you mean? It's not yellow. Craft beer is yellow. Oh, memes. Look at memes' face. Oh, memes is thinking.
Starting point is 00:35:55 That is not yellow. Oh, I'm looking it up. If you Google, yeah, if you Google is beer yellow, beers are often yellow. Mm-hmm, it's a good pick. I think you need to pick like a specific type of beer. Yellow beer. All beer that's yellow. Coors Light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Coors Light's yellow. No, it's not. Golden, and golden is yellow. Yeah, I mean, I had it, so I'm gonna defend UPFT. Yeah, I mean, I think you guys are... Yeah, the golden, alright, you know what? You guys are reaching... The gold boys are right. Coors Light says guys are the golden all right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's yellow Coors Light says golden beer goldens yellow. I think I think Golden, Colorado. Oh, thanks for making my point No lagers ales Those are both yellow fine. You know honestly honestly you need this one No, I don't need your pity on this. It's yellow. Do you or do you not need this? It stands on its own merits. Factor fiction.
Starting point is 00:36:48 No, I don't need it. He was about to pour it on the ground. I don't need it. He was about to pour a course light out on the ground. That's yellow. I just need Hank to be worse. That's all. Okay. I'm not even thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I have two picks. Yep. I'll have a wrench free up there. Mm-hmm. All right. I'm gonna to go. Cheese. Good pick. Cheese. Any specific type. I mean all yellow cheese. Orange.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I like cheddar but that's orange? I had cheese on my list. Well I thought I had cheese. I looked it up and then it was like most cheese is orange. Bright orange. Look up. We just made a fucking noise. Cheese is yellow.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Bright orange. That's what I looked at. That's what I saw. Not all cheese is yellow, but a lot of cheese is. That's what I'm saying. You have to pick a yellow cheese. Like there are like, you have to pick a cheese. I'll give you cheddar cheese. Yeah, like PFT should be core's light. Okay, fine. Cheddar. My pick. It's like there's beers that are brown.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Cheddar cheese. Yeah. I'm not taking those. And there's cheese that is white. But there's a lot of beer that's yellow. There's cheese that's blue. There's a lot of beer that's not yellow. Yeah, and there's a lot of cheese that's- What was your pick, Max?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Lemonade. What kind? Oh, that's a good question. Yellow lemonade. Well, there's pink lemonade. Yeah. You have to say yellow lemonade then no There's no there's like white lemonade fall it looks white Lemonade is yellow. I'm gonna go down this path. I've seen a lot of very pale lemonade. Yeah. No, this is good They were not contentious. No, you guys know what you're doing me and Hank are playing this game the right way. All right guys are muddy
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yellow cheddar cheese is yellow. So is American all cheap. Why can't I get all But like lemonade not all beer generic lemonade You should take in beer. You should get light beer. You should have taken beer before lemonade, weirdo. Yeah. But that's not fucking yellow! Beer is not yellow! Yes it is. It's tan! Beer is tan. Alright, well this one might get it. This one might then spy on you even more. My second pick, french fries. Beige. They're golden McDonald's french fries are yellow. Okay, so this is we're just picking any color now. I will say this. I will say this. If you're if you were giving like a yellow, I'm gonna like, can I speak?
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's a fucking fake picture! If you were- Oh no it's not! That's not a real- that's a cartoon basically! Oh my god! If you were to give a little kid an outline of a french fries and told them to color it, they would get the yellow crayon to color it. Thank you Hank! Like that- Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:40 If there is a color, french fries are yellow. Hank, if you were to ask a kid to color in beer, what color would they choose? Yellow? Probably yellow. There we go Thank you. You also wouldn't like blank. I think that's This would be orange no wouldn't Great point Henry what color cheese cheese didn't pick cheese it I know but the best No, but Hank that's CHE easy yeah exactly with real cheese thinks that Someone here's upset that they took lemonade in the first. Yeah,. I'm taking yellow things for a yellow draft. French fries are yellow. No, you guys need this. You guys need this.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Let's keep going. No, let's keep going. You guys need this. Now I understand why Max was going to get contentious. He's color blind. He just, he said before, he's like, he's going to get contentious. You guys don't know colors. You guys don't know low. You said that Memes was going to be the decider. Memes? French fries or yellow? Go through all of their picks. And SpongeBob. I want them to get one pick that's actually yellow.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Memes would have given it a six. Come on, Memes. Well, I think French fries are yellow. Yes, thank you. Cheese? Cheese. Fine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:41:04 I won't take cheese. Take cheese off the board. That's fine. My first pick. I just wanted to take specific cheese. Cheese. Cheese. Fine. You know what? I won't take cheese. Take cheese off the board. That's fine. My first pick. No. No. Yeah. No. My first pick will be the Simpsons. That's yellow. There we go. I have french fries and the Simpsons. I thought about the Simpsons but I don't. I don't. I never watched it. Thank you. We just mumbled the great pick. It's a good pick. Cheese is still on the board. I'm not Thank you. Thank you. He just mumbled. Great pick. It's a good pick. Cheese is still on
Starting point is 00:41:28 the board. I'm not going to lie. There is a I just want to on the record. I had a specific. Let me take a pick off. No, I didn't. I said I want all I wanted you to take was a specific type of cheese. Check the tapes. I just wanted a specific type of
Starting point is 00:41:42 Simpsons French fries. You know who would be on our side big cat? Who? Bubba. Yeah, I was just about to say Yeah, he's colorblind No, um, okay. I can see this getting contentious. This should be an easy one. We should all agree gold Good pick Good pick. Is it honestly I'm gold metal Isn't it isn't it isn't of yellow. But gold is gold. If you were to give a kid a side hand back on beer, it's, it's literally a gold is a color is gold yellow. I'm going
Starting point is 00:42:21 to, I'm going to search this gray and silver. same thing we're not doing the I mean maybe I'm way off isn't gold a color pure gold is a rich yellow orange color okay or it was the I just assumed gold was gold okay we did a gold draft gold would go first gold would be the metallic variation of the color yellow okay according to red it that's all my draft is just gonna be yellow things well first. Gold would be the metallic variation of the color yellow. Okay. According to Reddit, that's always right. My draft is just going to be yellow things. Well, lemonade again, I can find you a lemonade right now that's not yellow. I can find you a lemonade right now that's not yellow, big boy. I'm going to go with the first down line. Any qualms
Starting point is 00:43:00 there? Well, it's not official. Well, yeah, it's not official and it's only on the TV. It's not on the field. All right, fine. Next Next time you watch TV, you don't get to watch the look at the yellow line. Oh, yeah See how you like watching football then buddy. Okay, next time we watch football. You can't eat any cheese, buddy. I like cheese and I wanted to take it but I looked it up and the first color it said was orange Mmm, you had to look up what the color of was. Yes because I didn't for this reason. Because if I picked it you know if I picked it I would have got fucking that's not true at all because I had I was very honest when PFT picked beer I said I have beer on my list. Well PFT is in fucking the basement right now. Yeah well guess what. Guess what buddy. Sometimes you got me in last place and you gotta have grit and you gotta build your way out of it.
Starting point is 00:43:48 No, yeah, it's okay. Okay, Hank you have two picks. I'm going to go with... Good thing this isn't contentious. Yellow, parentheses, Coldplay. The song.
Starting point is 00:44:00 The song? The song Yellow. I'm gonna allow that. Yeah, I mean... It's a yellow thing. Sure, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna allow it. Yeah. It's a yellow thing. Sure. Yeah. I'm gonna allow it. Yeah. Because I'm very easygoing when it comes to this. Well, I don't, I mean, yeah. And I will go with... Can you give us a bar of that song? And it
Starting point is 00:44:18 was all yellow. I like, I like British Bank. Yeah, I will go with pepper jack cheese. Mm-hmm. Wait Red green I would allow Hank to take that for you know, what pepper jack cheese is You don't know what pepper. You're on the same side here. It's white, red, and green. It's yellowish. It's got a yellow hue. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pepper Jack's white. It's got the
Starting point is 00:44:53 specks of peppers in there. It's Pepper Jack cheese is not it's white. Look at this. This is Pepper Jack cheese. That's yellowish. That's not. You picked a white cheese. That's yellow. That's not do you pick the white cheese? That's all white. You picked a white cheese. If that's not yellow, then no cheese should have been allowed. Oh, there's lots of cheeses that are yellow. That cheese is you had you basically could have picked Barata. Hank, I was really, I wanted you to be on my side. I know. So it's pepper jack. Hey, Jack is way more yellow Burrata. Oh, Hank, they're both white! No!
Starting point is 00:45:25 There's like peppers in it. It also has two other colors in it. So it might be like a yellow pepper. French fries are yellow and brown. Oh, now you're going back on french fries. I mean, I'm just saying, like, I know it's pure straight up, fucking unfiltered yellow. Well, there are a lot of cheeses that are yellow. Pepper Jack is not, if you like, maybe yellow cheese, no one's like Pepper Jack.
Starting point is 00:45:43 It's yellowish. Cheddar, I said cheddar. I said cheddar. Yeah, all right. I'm just gonna go fucking balls to the wall. She's not getting picked No, I mean that's if Pepper John's not yellow no cheese is allowed I Think we should let Hank take Pepper Jack no I'm taking Pikachu. Oh, okay. It's on my list I I'm taking Pikachu. Oh, okay. That's on my list. I I'm not a Pokemon Pokemon pepper Jack with a slap there been around a Pokemon I'm gonna go with it. Come on. Go. I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:46:20 Buttered popcorn mmm had it on my list good pick white good pick Buttered popcorn is yellow. Yes. It's yellow. You're thinking of like smart food. Like if you gave a kid a crayon and told him here's some pepper jack cheese. Okay, I'm gonna step in. They're not gonna just leave it white. I'm gonna step in. I'm going to go... ...with the sun. The fucking sun? The fucking Sun.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Which also could have been on the Mount Rushmore of tough things. Yep. Okay. Any one complain? No, I almost picked a 1-1. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It's a good third round. It's a good third round. It's a good value. I would have taken it. I probably should have taken it. To Coach's son. Okay. I got my last two. I need to take it and I probably should have taken it. To coach his son. OK. I got my last two.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I need the anime freaks. I need them to step up. That is the thing about the people that follow the part of my take account. It's a huge crossover with the anime freaks. Yep. All right, I'll go. I have two picks.
Starting point is 00:47:23 One I'm probably going to yell that for, but one should everyone should agree with now this whole draft is pointless Anyway, so what I'm not yelling anymore No, I would like you to yell if you don't like it This one you like though yellow labrador retriever. Yep. Yeah, right yellow lab labs are all Yeah, there's yellow lab. What just admitted that I would like it. No, I what did I say dogs? I didn't know that there's a difference in yellow and gold. There's a little you what did I say? What did I pick? Yellow yellow what? Labrador achievers and what did you say?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Right. I didn't know that there was a difference. There is very much got it Like you would know the dog in a lab dog yellow lab in a golden retriever two different dogs Marley and Now the pepper jack thing makes sense yeah, yeah, I'm colorblind okay last one Take it I'm not gonna get mad I promise Pasta Matt, I promise. Pasta. No, I'm actually I'm all right with that. There are yellow pasta. Yes, fresh pasta. The freshest pasta is always yellow with homemade pasta. Delicious yellow. Okay with it? Good pick. Yeah. Hank still Hank's still in a, like he just found out that Golden Retrievers and Yellow Labs are different dogs.
Starting point is 00:48:49 No, that's what he's trying to, he's trying to. This by me. His whole, I thought for sure you would have taken pasta. You know what? He's had two picks that have been presented to Hank today that Hank could have taken in the things that I just learned recently draft that we had. Yeah. Yellow Labs and Golden Retrievers and pepper jack cheese max
Starting point is 00:49:06 I've got cheese. I know Single person on the planet. Oh, it's gonna have your absolutely not max I was convinced you take pasta you took lemonade over pasta. What kind of Italian are you is is obvious? I was thinking more classically yellow like I mean pasta is yellow I know but I was thinking like I'll be honest. I didn't have lemonade on my board. I didn't even have I didn't even lemonade lemonade I mean you went one one. Well, I well I was thinking of things that are This way you don't understand what one one is this might be the end first of all, you don't don't understand
Starting point is 00:49:39 What one one is this might be the end you don't understand what one one is. I your one one is. This might be the end. You don't understand what one one is. I your one one that this is one to your one. My one one was SpongeBob. Yeah, he's one one with SpongeBob. It's you still on lemonade. Let's get back to the fact lemonade. All right, fine. You know what? Max, go for it. Let's go out and find somebody who doesn't like lemonade. We're going to yell anymore. Yeah, let's let's agree pick. Why is team throws an incompletion. It's a terrible pick. Why is that a terrible pick?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Do you not almost nut yourself? Wait, what was your pick? Sorry. The past interference icon that pops up after your team throws an incompletion. And it saves you. Pale yellow color with compact. How is that going to look on a graphic?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Well, it looks cool when it happens on the TV. Rushmore graphic. It's a paragraph. I don't think about that, Max. I don't think about that, it was Rushmore graphic. That's a paragraph. I don't think about that, Max. I don't think about that. I go with my, well, you're a big fucking panda bear, aren't you? That's not true. I just admitted to pandering to the graphic. He does pander. Wow. Max panders. That's why he's in first. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Pandering the entire meatball contingency. I go with my heart. You don't think this guy likes meatballs? No, I'm just saying you've been pandering to fat meatball
Starting point is 00:51:07 I and you know what I actually think the people will like to pass interference thing. We've all been there Yeah, no, they I mean PFT is kind of right Peter Schrager just walked in Peter I got a question for you When you're when you're watching football, you're rooting for wait a minute. We should fuck up When you're when you're watching football you're rooting for waiting next we should fuck up Actually, I should lead off with We have so many grievances right now in the middle sit in the middle sit in the middle all right first question Peter Schrager NFL Network you can find them everywhere. We're actually gonna have you on next week great. So yeah hard knocks
Starting point is 00:51:45 Peter Schrager, what color is pepper jack cheese? It's it's a white but with like a red and orange tint of like Correct answer. Uh, is there a difference between a golden retriever and a labrador or yellow lab? Yes Okay Beers brown Yes. Okay. Good answer. Beer's brown. Oh no. Beer's not brown. Oh no. French fries are yellow. Yes. Thank you. Beer's not brown. What do you say? What color's lemonade? I don't know. What color's lemonade? Oh, now this is a good one. I say pink. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But if there's like a lemonade stand, it's usually yellow, okay But I'm at a restaurant and I'm ordering I'm in it better be pink
Starting point is 00:52:28 But the person didn't say lemonade stand they said lemonade then if you order a lemonade anything if you're like hey Can I get a lemonade and it comes out pink? You're like I didn't order a Just think it's interesting conversation. All right, so wait, what was your pick? All right so Peter if you're watching football right and your team is playing, it's third down, third and 10 and they throw an incompletion and then like half a second later, the, the pass interference icon pops up on the screen. How exciting is that for you? Yeah, that's a, that's a quiet fist pump, but I, I understand if people go natural,
Starting point is 00:52:59 yeah, okay. Flag, flag, flag. But to me, you gotta have some respect. Like it wasn't a true first down. It was like, all right, but you bailed out you bailed out It's a quiet I think this is more relatable for people that root for teams that historically have quarterbacks that can't complete taxes Yes, of which there are many she was and it's also so it's just for the interception play On an incomplete pass. Okay. Okay, cuz obviously that yellow that yellow score bug is bad. Sometimes it can be bad Yeah, be very bad. I'm saying when you're on offense. Yeah Yeah, okay, Max your last pick. I'm gonna go with the minions. Oh
Starting point is 00:53:30 Okay, nice. I actually like the minions a lot. Minions are great. Minions fail. Make me laugh every time. You want it You wanted to get mad at me there, but you know I've been honest the whole time. Oh, yeah, I had his back You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm defensive right now. I'm defensive. I'm defensive. Yeah What color is gold? Gold I oddly gold can be brown as well. Okay, so Peter's colorblind. He's got shit for brains. Okay, Hank I Got it. Okay. Okay. I haven't watched any Olympics this entire two weeks Are you guys in on the Olympics or out on the Olympics in ish? I was I was halfway in I
Starting point is 00:54:07 Enjoy that gap that it fills in the summertime. Yeah, I was nothing else going on I can convince myself to care about things that I normally want hot take. Yeah, not enough bloopers anymore. Yeah, awesome Well, we used to be this I saw the penis. Yeah, we saw the guy the the diver like back and hit his back Yeah, but like yeah, that was his back first. That was funny, yeah. Yeah, that was an old clip. See, that's exactly right. Like, I just saw it online. I'm like, all right, well, there's a blooper.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It used to be there'd be guys fucking up. Now, everyone's great. Yeah. And it's great. And also, this is me just, I gotta, it's- The Polish chick, you like the Polish chick? It's good. Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It was more- The one that looks like a Bella Danger? Yeah. Sucks. I don't know that name. I've never searched that looks like a Bella Danger? Yeah. I don't know that name. I've never searched that name. You fucking dog, Peter. When you say that you saw the penis, are you talking about the opening ceremonies?
Starting point is 00:54:56 That guy was weird. Okay, wait. What did you say? An obsession with all the celebrities and the... Yeah, Snoop Dogg's getting paid. I saw that report. Yeah. All right Hank your last pick Yellow Starburst Okay. All right
Starting point is 00:55:14 Some people would say the worst of the starburst flavors, but I don't think they're the worst They're just clearly not the best but they're yellow. There are you know, but max already took pink lemonade So you could've taken pink starburstburst I don't think I could have All right. What do we miss on the yellow? We missed a lot sunflowers of color. Yes sunflowers I was staring at it. I didn't have it on my board and then I saw it I was like that would be disrespected. I thought about it. Yeah the Lay's chips too right next Yeah, yeah, but Lay's chips are not like if you're talking about like the best chips
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, if we're talking I like Lay's chips with a sandwich Yeah, it's a good salt crunch a salty crunch when somebody serves me yellow Lay's original I feel like I'm eating in prison. That's like yeah like what they give inmates. Yeah, they're good with a sandwich. Yes. Yeah, uh, I had Construction machinery. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah excavator really yellow I had construction machinery. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Cool as shit. Cool. Big excavator. Really cool. Yellow.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I had butter. I had butter. I had mustard. I had bananas. I had mustard, too. I love mustard. Scrambled eggs. Butter was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah. Honey. Honey. Honey, I had that, too. That's a good one. Beavis and Butthead. Yeah. Tweety Bird.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I was pretty heavy. I could have gone a full lemon board, honestly. I think Beavis. He has yellow hair. Okay Beavis I meant Beavis's hair. Yeah, uh Tweety bird Wolverine Not oh this was something That that would be like his suit is yellow Wolverine suit Sure, the person is not your sound playing somewhere. I think it's just a car outside Heart no, I think
Starting point is 00:56:54 Where it was that in a Bella danger video Peter walked on to say hi for two minutes already regretting it Steelers Still black and yellow. Yeah black and yellow I had Hank's belly. Yep Yo, Billy's a cow. Oh Chicken shit. I'm seven slow today. Yeah, I had a fuel goal post just definitely Feel goal posts. I don't like
Starting point is 00:57:23 I mean, I don't like Yellowish yeah, I don't like field goal posts. This is the this is the most wild Mount Rushmore We've had this year. Yeah, you like one field goal post. You just don't like two of them Yeah, the Tour de France Jersey. Oh, yeah. Yep, the guy's shout out Harbaugh shout out Harbaugh B's It's a fire salamanders would have counted. Yeah. Are they yellow? I thought they were orange. Oh, then yeah, they would have counted. What about tortilla chips? Yeah, that can be yellow. I think they're yellow. Just as yellow as fucking pepper Jack. No, it's not. I gotta chill with the pepper. You're so wrong about pepper Jack. It's crazy. Chips are not yellow. Some of them are. They definitely are. Which ones? The yellow ones. The ones
Starting point is 00:58:06 that come in the yellow bag. Cintitas? That's a specific type, but the general tortilla chip is not yellow. Some of them are made from white corn, some from yellow corn. Queso Fundido? That's more white. I think that one's more white. Yeah, you're probably right. You kind of hanked yourself on that one. That's a yellow chip. There's cheese. I understand. I found it with cheese. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:58:31 You missed it, Peter. He took off cheese. He made us all not pick cheese. That's not true. I told you to just pick a specific cheese. I just wanted you to take cheddar cheese. You could have taken the Packers cheese heads. That's not a good thing.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It has a mild buttery flavor and a pale yellow color with a compact and supple texture. Okay, what else did we miss? Peter, any yellow things? Yeah. The Simpsons. I had it. That was my first pick after cheese got taken off.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yep. Saxophone. You took cheese off. No, you took cheese off. I just wanted a specific cheese. You took cheese and pasta off. No, pasta was a good pick. I told you it was a good pick. Charlie Brown's shirt. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Charlie Brown's shirt. The man in the yellow hat. Oh, I was a huge curious George guy. Oh, I was a huge curious George guy. Wait, Hank, is that the man in the yellow hat or is that the man in the yellow hat's hat? Probably the hat. Yeah, it would have to be the hat. If you're making this think about Wolverine, kind of same hat. Probably the hat. You're making a good brain kind of
Starting point is 00:59:26 same thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That hat by your logic on it then. Yeah. But that would play the Savannah bananas. Yeah. Sure. I watched it. I watched the game. There's like
Starting point is 00:59:37 we I was out on them and then I watched the game. I was like, this actually kind of rocks. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's also been the rise has been crazy. Yeah. The rise has been crazy. Tracy. Tracy. Yep. Good one. A lot of rocks. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's also been the rise has been crazy. Yeah, the rise has been crazy Tracy Dick Tracy. Yep. Good one. Yeah, I didn't date you at all Donna the starring role. Yes. Oh, yeah, just blondes blondes in general
Starting point is 01:00:01 I know you're more of a brunette guy Peter, but I think you would have to you would have had like you couldn't Have gotten blondes you'd have to say blonde hair Why are you arguing me over something? I didn't take because I because I'm justifying why None of us Lemon bars I could have gone all lemon. Lemon bars. Rock. You guys are stupid. Lemon heads. Lemon heads. Good pick. Lemon heads. Good pick. Um, corn. Just corn. Hank. Oh, corn. Oh my God. Hank. Hank loves corn. Yeah. And what did you pick? What are your four picks, Hank? Hank got the grossest pick today.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Hank, what were your four picks? It was good. What were your four picks? I enjoyed the hell out of it. What were your four picks? Doesn't matter. No, no, I want to hear them again. SpongeBob.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Great pick. Yellow. Coldplay. That's corn. That's gotta be corn. But that's gotta be corn. Pikachu has to be corn. What was even my fourth pick? I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Unmemorable. How do you not know your own picks? Wasn't corn. Wasn't corn. It was corn. It was corn. It was corn. Pikachu has to be corn. What was even my fourth pick? I don't even know. Unmemorable. How do you not know your own pick? Wasn't corn. Yellow Starburst. Oh dude, all three of your last picks should have been corn. I would rather, I would, I would, like if I had the choice between corn or yellow starburst for the rest of my life, it's corn. A lot of people are saying that Hank got out of last place and got cocky. No, that's a mistake. But again, like it doesn't matter because it's over, but that will keep me up.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah, that's tough. Not just because of the, I don't care that I would have done better on the graphic, just for personal, like, just personal. Yeah, you betrayed yourself. Yeah, I betrayed myself. Kind of like Max and pasta. Yeah, yeah. Honestly. I loved it. I loved it. I got it.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I know. I wanted to get mad about it, but it's the right color. Fresh pasta. Fresh pasta is yellow. Yeah. Okay, good Mount Rushmore, boys. Good Mount Rushmore. Yeah, just great convo. Yeah, it was fun.
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Starting point is 01:03:22 guest. It is- Not damn time again. Yeah, I know. You can probably recognize that voice. It is our Grit Week interview presented by Coors Light. It is head coach, Super Bowl winning head coach. So I think the last time you were on, you had not won a Super Bowl yet. Sean McVeigh.
Starting point is 01:03:38 You guys enjoyed the box, right? I'll get to that. I love the box, yeah. So we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit to that. I love the box, yeah. So we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit? How would I define the word grit? I think it's about persevering, being at your best
Starting point is 01:03:54 when the times are toughest. I think the separator in anything when you talk about people with grit is when they're in the storm. It's easy to lead when things are going well, but people that have grit, they lead when they're in that storm And they get out of it quicker. Yeah, you could also have just said the 2022 Los Angeles Rams season fucking right
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, and that's and well, yeah, you know what I thought you were saying I wasn't even see I'm a bad listener there I thought you were talking 23 you dick Was bad. I don't know if I'd call that grit. You know, that almost broke me. Yeah. But no, last year, that was a cool example, you know, because when you really say, all right, how do you really work through?
Starting point is 01:04:35 How do you stay the same, even though we're three and six? Everybody's kind of writing you off. And I think the best thing about that team is a lot of people said, all right, well, what was the difference? There really wasn't one. And they started making some plays, having the games go in the right direction. But the guys kind of stayed the all right well what was the difference there really wasn't one and he started making some plays having the games go in the right direction but the guys kind of stayed the course last year was a fun
Starting point is 01:04:49 year yeah yeah yeah it was it was fun to watch you guys I for the record I believed in you when you're at your worst did you I put money on the line on you guys to make the play I said they're gonna make the playoffs at what point did you make that bet at your darkest hour so you made that bet when we were three and six I believe you're three and six. Yeah, it was right in that zone. That's awesome I looked at the schedule and I was like money. Did you put on it? It was about four or five units. So it was successful guy. You didn't believe in us I know I know I think I think I ended up getting five figures out of it. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:05:21 Congratulations for betting on I appreciate you. Yeah, so it was a gritty season Yes You guys are down then then you come back and turn things around I love it. Hey, congratulations for betting on us. I appreciate you. Yeah, so it was a gritty season. Yes. You guys were down. Then you come back. You turn things around. Everyone was saying before last season started that you were, I guess, in the midst of cap hell.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Like, there's been two seasons where you've been in cap hell. Was it like to fight through cap hell and come out the other side? It's not fun. It was, I think, when you look at it, there was a lot of decisions that in the moment, you feel very, you feel like these are the right things. And I'm not saying you would do anything differently,
Starting point is 01:05:50 but what you do wanna make sure you understand is, all right, what are the possible ramifications down the line? And there was some decisions that, I take some responsibility in, but there was a lot of good memories in the midst of that, but it was challenging when you're operating. And you never have to part ways with a lot of guys
Starting point is 01:06:04 that you really shouldn't have to But you know those guys went and did their thing and and I think it was a cool opportunity to see a lot of rookies get Opportunities and really take advantage of chances that kind of were forced upon us and they certainly made the most of them So kind of on the same lines of cap hell this past offseason You finally had a first round pick. Yeah, So you'd never had a first round pick. We had never had, you know what, we traded out of it in the 18th season. We traded back, but other than that,
Starting point is 01:06:31 we had not had a first round pick in seven years. Yeah, what was going through the, we saw Les in the hallway, and I asked him if he needed an EpiPen in the draft room, because we had a theory that you guys were just not gonna be able to do it. You were, like, at the last second, you'd be like, no, we can't do this. We don't want to do it and do it some trade where you traded a bunch of future picks. So that's all you guys were doing. So what was a possibility.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah. But you have a first rounder this year. Is that a little weird? He's a stud. It was weird. And, you know, there was some instances when you look at it, there's a lot of options, even the previous year, you know, we had discussed trying to go up to get a couple of players. It didn't end up working out, but it certainly felt weird. You know, my wife, we've been together for a long time, been married for, you know, a couple of years and you look at it and she's, I'm going to the draft on Thursday. She's like, you know, what the hell are you doing? You know, there's actually picks this night.
Starting point is 01:07:22 So it was the first time we've had to work on a Thursday night of the draft. Yeah. Felt weird. Yeah. You were used to just like setting up next to your pool. I remember they showed your house was in 2020. Yeah. And you were just like chilling on night one. It's nice little vacation there. We were just chilling. You know, it wasn't Kingsbury set up, but it was close. Now you do look like you're in good shape right now. What are you doing? What are you benching? Well, you know, I'm not benching, I don't know. The lot of body weight, you know, running a little bit more. You're kind of your borderline of thirst trap. Have you posted pictures of yourself without your shirt on?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Okay. You know, I appreciate that man. You know, I've been, uh, I've been working out with a Cooper and Pooka's trainer. Okay. He does a great job and, uh, you know, staying away from the carbs. A little minimizing them. Yeah. And the, and the facial hair looks good.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Facial hair looks great. I'm embarrassed to admit I had to get PRP for that. Did you? Oh, it's a, it looks a little fuller. You know, I was stressed my beard. I mean, I was getting, I don't know if you want to say alopecia, but it was getting thin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You've got shots in your face. Absolutely did. Okay. You know what? So here's how it started though. I'll give you this. This is how it started. I'm so LA now. So a couple years ago at the draft house, they got this over the top shot. You go back to the year that Pooka Naku was drafted. They want to show this. They're showing these where we're talking about the vision for Pooka, all that stuff. You know, I'm just, you know, selfishly looking at my hairline, like what the fuck is going on with this thing?
Starting point is 01:08:48 All I'm seeing is bald. And actually, Raheem Morris's daughter, Malia, she always used to say, you are balding. And I thought she was just joking with me. So I told my wife, I said, why didn't you tell me? I'm actually going bald. And the back of my head looked terrible. So I started getting PRP shots there.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Smart. Starting to come in. I'm feeling good about that. And I started getting PRP shots there. Smart. Starting to come in, you know, I'm feeling good about that. And I said, why the hell not the beer? Yeah. You know, you believe, are you just saying that? No, I, well listen, it does look good. If he's going to get this, he's probably going to Google it right now.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Yeah. It's a pleasure paying when you do it. So I got it like four years ago. Yeah. And it bought me a couple of years. But now it's going again. So you did the PRP? I did it on the top of my head. Yeah. It bought me a couple of years. Oh no, it's bad now. It's a disaster back there right now. But yeah, the PRP, it hurts
Starting point is 01:09:34 when they put it in. No, the lady said though, you know, if you're the healthier you are and if you still have some hair growth, the more likely it is to actually work. I'm super healthy. You are healthy. That's why I worked for a couple of years. So the facial hair the facial hair yeah, I mean we've given you a little shit. Sometimes you've gone pretty boy I remember we saw you in Indianapolis a few years ago I can't remember you I remember what it was it was so when you first came on the scene It looked like you spent a lot of time lining it up just perfectly yeah We were like he spends too much time on the facial hair
Starting point is 01:10:04 It does it needs to be like a little bit more jagged. He cares too much about the facial hair. And you saw us at the combine. Exactly what you said, but those are my good lives. We have to let you know. I forget. Those are our favorite. You guys have to be careful what you say now. We can say whatever the hell we want. Cheers shot. Yeah. We'll talk a lot of shit about you behind your back. We, we, it was a great, it was a great moment for us cuz we're like wait Sean McVeigh like listen to us Give him shit about his facial hair. I'm not rocks Love it. Um, do it good. The hair looks good, too. What kind of you switch your product recently? No, you know what? It's uh, it's same product as as normal. Yeah, it's a little fresher since I just got off the field one and make sure it's freshened
Starting point is 01:10:44 up. Yeah. Do you want to do some of the, whenever someone interviews you, they do like, hey, week 10. Oh, no. I got one for you. OK? See, like, here's the thing I will preface with that, OK? That has gotten way blown out of proportion.
Starting point is 01:11:01 It's one of those deals where when you go back through stuff, you remember it. But like't I don't have that Recall like I used to okay. Well, I got one that I think is gonna stump you. Okay, good. Okay, uh Okay fourth and 14 440 left in the game at Detroit playoff game. Yeah, what would what what offensive play did you call? Yeah, you know what? I didn't unfortunately I'm upset that there wasn't a call on the previous play Hey, I'll be on it. Oh for that. You know what? You're right. Yeah, and you know what?
Starting point is 01:11:32 I should have done too. I think I should have called the third down differently. Yeah to give us a better chance I Did not like the way I did that and I was doing a playoff game Here's it was an incredible playoff game, but I look at it, and I'm being dead-ass serious about this too, some of the red zone sequencing. Because I thought defensively, we settled in. They got going. They came out hot offensively.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And we were kind of matching them with our offense. But then I thought defensively, we slowed them down. We had a chance. We were moving the football. We had some possessions that we didn't come away with points that we really should have. But that stings. And I'll tell you why
Starting point is 01:12:05 And I'm not afraid to admit I would do that differently I would have called probably the sequence leading up to that differently whether it works out or goes down the way we want I don't know but I think to take the ball out of Matthew's hands and To then sit there and because of some of the timeouts different things to not give him another op at the ball shame On me for that from a fan's perspective, it was such an awesome game because that building was on fire. It was the loudest.
Starting point is 01:12:28 It was crazy. So I thought the loudest place I had ever been a part of coaching wise, NFC Championship 2018 New Orleans. We're getting ready to go out. All right, we test it. We had been there earlier in the season. It was rocking.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And I remember it was so loud you couldn't even hear anything. Goff's mic went out right before he's got the back up helmet on. You're like, what the hell is going on? But they did a genius thing. I remember they showed, you know, Robert Woods had been interviewed during the week and they said, all right, what, you know, do you think the noise is going to be a factor? And Robert's kind of on my shoulder and he answers it exactly like what you would want him to. He's like, no, you know, we're going to handle, you know, handle it with poise.
Starting point is 01:13:04 It's not going to be a factor. Well, they show this shit during a TV timeout. Mm-hmm. And then the fan just starts screaming out, oh, why the hell did you say that? But that was the loudest by far, and Detroit was way louder. Yeah. And it was just like, it was everything
Starting point is 01:13:18 you wanted to play off the game. It was sick. It was a sick atmosphere. I mean, credit to Detroit. And I'm telling you, my dad loved it. They were already out on the field. I mean like credit to Detroit and I'm telling you my dad loved it They were already out on the field. I came out like 60 minutes before kickoff. The stands are full My dad said I heard these guys these people booing their ass off at somebody. I watch you walking out He was laughing so funny. Everybody's booing talking to me. It was it was great
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah And that was that was why we were frustrated because we're like this is gonna be one of those Classic finishes where they're going back and forth. And I ruined it for you. And then they just run out the clock. But that's OK. Now you have an in-game coordinator, right? We do.
Starting point is 01:13:51 You know what? So what exactly does that guy do? Because you hired someone who's going to help you. Is he just a guy playing Madden? We've had guys do that before. So it's John Stryker. He's been in Tennessee. I think Vraibs and those guys the last handful of years
Starting point is 01:14:03 did as good a job of understanding the nuances of the rules, clock management, timeout usage. And that's something that, shoot, I got to be better at. And to be able to have somebody that you lean on now, hey, ultimately, it still is my responsibility to improve. But to have somebody that's charged with that task, he's a stud. I think he's going to really be beneficial to us.
Starting point is 01:14:22 So does he come up to you just every few minutes being like, hey, here's what we got. Timeouts left. Yeah, he'll be on the headset. And there's a dialogue that's a free-flowing dialogue throughout the course of the game with really your coaches. But possible four-down scenario or, all right, this might be something where if we get to this,
Starting point is 01:14:39 let's go for it. And there's a flexibility and a fluidity to the flow of the game. But the main thing is I've done a poor job, especially as it relates to that big cat, is burning timeouts in the second half. I mean, we had two games last year we were saying against Pittsburgh and against Detroit where, you know, does it change the outcome of the game? Who knows? But at least we have a chance to possibly get a possession back or, you know, be able to use that to our advantage. We've been saying for years that the team should have a coach that just plays
Starting point is 01:15:06 Video games it just plays Madden all the time and if they play Madden all the time Then they understand better than anyone else those end of game end of quarter end of half scenarios When it comes to timeouts does he play a lot of video games? No, he does not play video games I don't know if Madden's gonna simulate the game situation Yeah I don't know if Madden's going to simulate the end game situations. It does. Yeah, it does. Give me an example. How the pressure, the pressure of playing Madden.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Now the new college football game, the stadium pulse place going crazy. Your controller's vibrating. Yeah. It was just like the real thing. You also have to understand from a fan's perspective, like we sit on the couch, we're dumb. We don't know football. We can't be like Sean McVeigh. Oh, he should have
Starting point is 01:15:49 called a different route for his tight end on that last play, but we do know, A, you shouldn't have used your time out there. That's what we can complain about. I can agree with that. Yeah, I can agree with that. That's all we have. It's not crazy. We're just like, oh, he used the time out. I wouldn't have done it. It's like all the answers and no accountability, right? Yeah, exactly. You know what? I never would have done that. There will be some times where I might say, I see it differently. That one shouldn't have punted it away on fourth and 14. Yeah. Maybe in a few years.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I don't know how long you're going to be. You guys ever seen the movie Anger Management? Yeah. You know, the early parts of it when he's like, I thought we said we weren't going to listen to the game. I ever seen Missilei up. And you got a dunk thatch. That's's I feel
Starting point is 01:16:34 So is mine sharp so I I if you have another hypothetical I actually was gonna ask him that that same hypothetical Oh, I was thinking the Was yeah, I had that as a question but there's another one if you're if you're in the NFC Championship game hypothetically and question but there's another one if you're if you're in the NFC championship game hypothetically and it is fourth and was it fourth and eighth fourth and goal from the fourth and goal from the eight yard line and you're down my buddy and you're down by I know where you're hypothetical this is not happened okay so it's fourth quarter and your fourth and goal from the eight you're down by what five eight points eight points and you're going up against the best quarterback of all time
Starting point is 01:17:07 Let's call him Tom on the other team hypothetically. It's Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers In that scenario, would you kick a field goal? Which is worth how many points is that it's worth three points or would you score a touchdown which is worth? Six and then you go for two As I'm watching that game I'm sitting there riding with my buddy Matt LaFleur right there. Oh, that's, wait, that happened? Let's get the stop.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Let's kick the field goal and let's win that damn thing. Now, were you thinking, let's kick the field goal, then we'll kick another field goal, then we'll kick another field goal? No, I don't think I was thinking that. OK, all right. Some people might have been thinking that. That's nine points.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Do coaches get piss tested? Because I thought that he should've gotten one after that game. I love you. He's going to Texas after this. Cause he, we bring this up. Remember when I had you come up to him at Indianapolis? Yes. Yeah. That's my guy though. You know what though? Here's what I will say in all, and when you look at it, especially like going into year eight, it's amazing the amount of situations you go through where you're saying, it seems so clear, and man, that 40 second clock goes real freaking quick. And if you're coming out of a timeout and it's 25 seconds,
Starting point is 01:18:15 and such a big deal of is learning from some of your mistakes or things if you would do it differently. I don't know that there's as clear cut of a right or wrong answer as what we're talking about with me, and I actually do mean that just based on clear cut of a right or wrong answer as what we're talking about with me. And I actually do mean that just based on the flow of the game and where they were going and how their defense was playing at that point in time. But that's where I in the video game,
Starting point is 01:18:35 that's where I hit the start menu. So you don't have to burn a timeout. So how would you guys have played third and eight to fourth and eight, third and fourth and eight? I probably would have run the ball. Run the ball in third down. Make it manageable. You know what? I can't say that.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I don't think that's a sound thought process. Yeah, that's what I know Army does. Well, they run the ball anyways. But when they plan out their scenarios, they just anticipate, OK, we're going to go fourth and fourth down almost every time. So we treat it like it's first and eighth every time. That's how a lot of these teams do handle it.
Starting point is 01:19:06 If you know you're going to get to a certain thing, so you can play some percentages, do it a little bit differently. I mean, you hit the nail on the head. We have zero accountability for anything. So we do get to feel smart when we come out on the right side of it. But nothing gets me more upset as a fan
Starting point is 01:19:19 than if a coach makes a mistake, and then they just dig in on it afterwards. And they don't admit that it was a mistake. They don't get that either. They don't learn from it. So there are probably a lot of Rams fans listening right now. They're like well at least you know. No you took accountability right away. Yeah. Moving forward. Yeah. No you know what though if we tell our players that like you know all kidding aside if we're saying all right let's have accountability be one of the most important things and it's hard for us to move on if we can't acknowledge like
Starting point is 01:19:44 all right where we're wrong. Right. And it's hard for us to move on if we can't acknowledge, like, all right, where we're wrong. And let's be selfless and secure enough to be able to admit that. And if I'm asking something of our players, then I better be willing to do it. And then there are some times when you say some things didn't go down, but was the thought process sound?
Starting point is 01:19:58 And usually when I get the most, you know, when I get mad at myself or when you're saying, all right, you didn't either, either think about this beforehand. You didn't play it right in terms of the sequencing of what led up to that fourth down. Um, or sometimes it doesn't go down for you. Like there was some play calls, like in the Superbowl drive, the one play that Stafford no looks, that was a terrible play call.
Starting point is 01:20:20 It was, but you know, that's like the worst coverage ever. He no looks a hook defender dropping right off into that zone. He has enough field for the backside player and it's a 20 plus yard gain. And then on the flip side you're saying, all right, fourth and one, we go forward on the jet sweep. Cup makes a great run. Well, if he trips, is it a bad call? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Right. Yeah. And so that's where you have to be honest with yourself. And it's hard because there's stakes at hand and it's so public. Right. You have to be able to make sure that, you know, your process not results. Yeah. And, but it's also like, all right, let's make sure that, you know, what led to it.
Starting point is 01:20:54 And it goes both ways, right? Like if it works out, you still have to acknowledge, even though it doesn't sting as much, that that shit wasn't sound. Yeah. So in the fourth quarter of the Superbowl, I have to imagine you're talking about like the adrenaline earlier. Yeah. How did that affect you? Like, were in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, I have to imagine you're talking about the adrenaline earlier. How did that affect you? Were you actually feeling, was the heart rate up?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Were you feeling different? Were you trying to actively calm yourself down? Yeah, you know what? I would say this. Because I handled the 18 Super Bowls so poorly, and really it was such a blur. Honestly, I think the games that are the clearest, and it's all mental for us as coaches,
Starting point is 01:21:24 are when you're just there You're seeing the game you're able to make adjustments. You're able to communicate clearly to your players You're getting the stuff if things go a little bit different than what was expected And even though early on we kind of saw it it was just such a blur where it just went It was you know, whether you want to say I wasn't doing a good enough job So I wanted to make sure you say, just try to be in the moment. Don't make some of the same mistakes twice. And there was an element, our defense was playing so well.
Starting point is 01:21:50 We obviously had some injuries losing Odell. Even Van Jefferson was banged up at that point. But I thought our guys stayed the course. The defense gave us an opportunity. And then when we had to have it, I felt like our guys did an excellent job executing. And I did think there was at least some clarity of thought even though all the play Calls weren't exactly what you would want. So I actually had this question the 18 Super Bowl you've talked about like hey, that was my first Super Bowl. It didn't go well
Starting point is 01:22:16 I could have done a better job did winning the Super Bowl in 21 Kind of take a little bit of that sting away or is it something that you still are like man, I let that one It's funny. Um, you know, I'll still always feel like I let guys down that had an opportunity You know the john sullivans of the world the coaches that were there, you know Even you know, you want to win that so bad for your players. Todd Gurley's, you know, Michael brocker There was a lot of special guys that were a part of that football team and I felt very responsible for that But I think you want to always channel things the right way. And here's what I will say to that.
Starting point is 01:22:47 In the 21 season, it was cool because there was so many guys that you wanted it for even more than yourself. And there was a clarity and there was a purity in that journey. And I think the adversity we faced where there was real grit that had to be established wasn't something that you can fake. And when you have a lot of guys that it meant something
Starting point is 01:23:04 to them, but they didn't want to let each other down. Whether it was people for Aaron, people for Whitworth, Eric Weddell, Jalen Ramsey, Vaughn, Odell, Matthew Cooper, the Rob Havensteins, you know, even though Higbee wasn't able to play, there was a lot of special guys that were a part of it. And so, you know, that was cool. I don't know if they'd say it took this thing away
Starting point is 01:23:23 because there were still other people that you feel responsible for, but it definitely was a lot of learning lessons because in some ways too, it was a cool thing. And then afterwards you start, you know, buying into your own stuff a little bit and you get away from the stuff that you know is when you're at your best for these guys.
Starting point is 01:23:38 So after you win the Super Bowl, there was that period of time where people were like, Sean McVeigh might retire, or take a walk away from football for a little bit. How close were you to actually walking away? Because it felt like it was close at some points. It's funny. I think the lies I told myself were once we'd win it, then I'd be happy. And that's something that I'd always had interest in. And then there was some real opportunities with real opportunities to have financial rewards and things like
Starting point is 01:24:06 that. What I didn't want to do is disingenuously lead people down a path if I really knew I kind of still wanted to coach. But I don't know, it was such a blur. It never got close. I never took the meeting. There was people that I work with, had conversations and pre-dialogue about what it would look like, but I didn't want to lead people on, especially if that's something way down the line that you're interested in doing so it never got serious, but
Starting point is 01:24:29 Then you start you know it does get it does catch up to you a little bit if you lose the perspective And there was definitely some times I did And then I think it got exposed by some of the results we had in 22, and that's real well We're happy you stayed in football. Yeah, and I love it now I well I appreciate that and here's the thing too the results we had in 22. And that's real. Well, we're happy you stayed in football. Yeah. And I love it now. Well, I appreciate that. And here's the thing too. I would drive my wife crazy if I was around at home too much. I mean, she loves me, but you know, I know she's ready when these brakes
Starting point is 01:24:53 come back. Um, I think my little man gave me a different perspective. Congratulations by the way. Yeah. How is it being a dad? Best thing ever. It really is. I mean, and now he's getting to that age where he can recognize you. He's got personality, smiling, he's doing to that age where he can recognize you. He's got a personality, he's smiling. He's doing a bunch of cool stuff. And so it does give you that purpose and perspective, having the family that I have.
Starting point is 01:25:11 But I do love coaching. There's so many things about it that you love when you have the right head space. And I'm hopeful to do this for a lot longer and for a really long period of time. And then down the road, if that opportunity presents itself, but hopefully they'll have to kick me out of here. Yeah. Wait, how old is your son now? My son is, no, shoot, he's nine months. Okay, nine months. Okay, yeah. Starting to smile a little. He's smiling. He's getting around the house. He's flying around in his walker and he's
Starting point is 01:25:40 always jumping, man. He's crazy though. He doesn't like to sleep when he's dead. They're trying to just kill themselves by going upstairs all the time. It's wild. You can't take your eye off Yeah, are you letting play football if he wants to oh, yeah, nice nice good answer So I feel like you love the the chess match. That's inherent in football the pre-planning watching it pan out Do you ever call plays knowing that they're not gonna work to set something up for later? That's a good question. I wouldn't say knowing that they're not going to work But even if I don't think it has a great chance for success But you still want to have an efficient play if it can pay dividends
Starting point is 01:26:16 There's been some opportunities where you're saying alright Let me get this play off because I think it's really going to open up something later on but There's usually a little bit more luxury based on if you're in a rhythm, you're getting plays off. You can only sequence a game the way you want when you're able to get opportunities to do that, present things. If you're going three and out, it's hard to get into any sort of rhythm, whether it's offensively or even as a play caller. But I wouldn't say intentionally not to work, but if you feel like, all right, this is to set something up that you feel like definitely has a great chance to relate, you know end up You know result in a big play at what point this season. Are you gonna text Aaron Donald and be like, come on, dude
Starting point is 01:26:52 Tomorrow. Yeah, has that happened yet? Let's put it this way. I talked to Aaron pretty frequently He texted me the other day asking about the Chargers practice next week. I want to say what you thinking about man Yeah, You know, um, if he wants to, the door and the invitation is open. Oh, wow. That's very gracious. No shit. Right. Here's the thing though. And I think you guys would, would understand this. If there's a man of man of men, it's Aaron Donner, right?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Yeah. When he looks you in the eye and you understand what he's about and what he puts into it. And he says, Hey I'm going to, I feel full. I feel complete. I'm putting everything I can into this. Then you let him say, if there ever is a situation where he gets that itch, but I got too much respect for him, honestly, to ask him about it. And I think he kind of understands, but I don't think there's any chance.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I think when you talk about a complete and a full resume and where he's at in this part of his life, he's earned the right to say, I can walk away with no regrets. And even though I could still play at the upper echelon of this league, I got four beautiful kids, a wife, I got business ventures, and he's set and he's got some other interests too. Yeah. Superbowl ring he's financially taken care of. I feel like it's probably pretty nice this time of year for him not to have to go to
Starting point is 01:28:03 camp. But you just keep texting him. Yeah. Just be like, Hey, listen, Aaron, you can, you don't even have to practice. I know, right? Yeah. How about that? You just offer him no camp. You don't have to show up every time. He didn't come to camp. He won defensive player of the year. Yeah. So there you go. No practice, the less practice, the better. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:17 For him, yes. Yeah. I feel like you should maybe consider doing that. What's speaking of the defense side of the ball. So your college best friend is now your defensive coordinator. He's earned it. What's speaking of the defense side of the ball. So your college best friend is now your defensive coordinator. He's earned it. He's a stud. But what is that like? Is that, is it like you have this relationship where you guys
Starting point is 01:28:31 have known each other forever, you're friends before you got to this level. Is it, do you find yourself catching yourself in moments being like, wait, we're high level coworkers here. We're not with the check in. I think it's special because he's earned the right. I think it's funny. So his dad, Dave Shulup, was the head coach of the Bengals when he was 32, obviously.
Starting point is 01:28:49 His grandfather is Don, Mike is his uncle. One of the things, when we got here, I've got a bunch of friends on this staff, but they've all earned the right to be here. It's like, we're not doing favors. You earned the right, and oh, it's cool to be able to trust somebody. And we've been together from day one. He lived with us, you know, my first year. He lived with me and my wife. And then, you know, ended up, you know, moving out.
Starting point is 01:29:12 But to have somebody you trust that much, he's coached on all three levels of the defense, comes from a football background. It's really special to have. And he's done a great job. I'm really confident in the leadership. We think very much alike. But what his dad said is, I wish, seeing what you guys
Starting point is 01:29:27 have been able to do, that I wasn't so worried about hiring friends if I thought they were worthy of it. Because you wanted to go, you want to be careful. And this is a high pressure business, but I wouldn't have done it. He's been ready for a while. But I think it worked itself out that with Raheem getting that opportunity that he'll go do an awesome job in Atlanta, Chris is in a position and had an open mind
Starting point is 01:29:49 and let guys compete for the interview and he earned it. He's done a hell of a job so far. I got a ton of confidence in him. It's also got to be hard. I mean, you have an incredible coaching tree at a very young age and all the guys that feel like they come in this building and then in a year they get snatched up. Is there a part of you that's like, man, I wish we didn't have this type of turnover, but you're obviously happy for them, but it's got to be like, man, this keeps happening over and over. It's not ideal, but you know what? It keeps you fresh. Like it attracts high level people. Yeah. And I think about this, I was so lucky and I was 30 years old when I got this opportunity.
Starting point is 01:30:23 And it's not just me. These guys are contributing to me. I'm learning from these guys that have been through here and then they go on and they put their own spin on it. But things have been good because you have guys like Raheem Morris, Kevin O'Connell, Zach Taylor, Matt LaFleur, Staley's of the world, Shane Waldron. You know, you get a lot of guys that have gone on Jed fish, you know, a lot of great coaches that have gone on Liam Coleman, Zach Robinson, now are OCs.
Starting point is 01:30:45 And so they've all been a part of good things here. And if there's not an opportunity based on, you know, what their chances are to elevate themselves, then I think that's the best thing ever. Does it make it harder? Yeah. But you know what it does too? It keeps you fresh every year and you know, you don't take things for granted. And I think we've gotten good at figuring that out, but it's all because of the right people that come in here to yeah
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah, if it's a good job, then good people are gonna want to have it Oh, and you're gonna have very talented people coming in Yeah, I do have to I do have to bring up one thing that I don't like about what you've done in the last year Motivational shirts that you made yeah, and I saw one the other day when we were at the Practice mentally and physically tough players who play smart and love to compete. That was an old one then. If you saw that one, that's old.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Yeah, they're still wearing it out there. But what was the thought process behind putting so many words on a t-shirt? Well, I've learned. It's a lot. That's a lot of words. But they all actually do mean something. What don't you like about mentally and physically tough
Starting point is 01:31:42 players? I like that. That would be a great t-shirt. What about, hey, you want guys who like that. Okay. That would be a great t-shirt. What about, hey, you want guys who play smart? Yes, that would be a great t-shirt too. How about you want guys who love to compete? You just made three great t-shirts. That's what we did this year.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Oh, you split them up. Yeah, there you go. There we go. Okay. Hey, see, I'm coachable too. Hey, having the paragraph, totally fucking unnecessary. Yeah, yeah. It was too much reading.
Starting point is 01:32:01 It looked like one of those- It's exhausting. I agree. You ever get those like auto populated ads that are served to you that show like very specifically like what sign you are in the horoscope and like what job you have. It's like on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:32:14 They know who you are. So they try to send you these shirts that have like. He's not online. But it's exhausting. I can imagine. And I tend to agree with you that that's an old shirt. You would never see something like that now. Great job.
Starting point is 01:32:24 You see simple crisp to, to the point. Good job. Model the way. This year, we're going forward on fourth and 14. And we're making three different t-shirts. I like that evolution. I think you're a smart guy. I had a question for you, kind of along the lines of what
Starting point is 01:32:38 Big Gas earlier, to test the memory. But it's not about a play. We do this game a lot with different players, different coaches that we have on How many Johnson's have you ever coached? Hmm as a head coach just on the Rams Do you actually know the answer? I've got a list of Rams players named Johnson here so we can go through the list So since 2017 since 2017 how many Johnson's have you played with? if I had to guess
Starting point is 01:33:09 How many Johnson's I've coached or played with? Oh, sorry, sorry. Okay. Played with. Coach, how many Johnson's, how many have you played with? Johnson's have you watched being played with? Yeah. Well, what the hell is your question? We're going to have the poll card, Sean McVay has played with this many Johnson's.
Starting point is 01:33:23 How many Johnson's have been on the Rams while you coach them? Right. Pretty simple. How many players with the last name Johnson? Yeah, if you want to put it that way. Yes, that's a, that's an accurate restating. I'm going to say Gatling, man. Well, can you name them? Can you just name the Johnsons?
Starting point is 01:33:37 Well, two guys come to mind. John Johnson, Isaiah Johnson. All right. Tyler Johnson. Mm hmm. Okay. How many more do I have? Uh, it looks like there's one more. All right. Tyler Johnson. Okay. How many more do I have? Uh, Johnson's man. It looks like there's one more. One more. All right. Give me the side of the ball. Defense. Defense. Big D. Um, you said Isaiah, right? I did say Isaiah Johnson. I
Starting point is 01:34:00 said John Johnson. I said Tyler Johnson. Mm-hmm. And I said Give it to him Give it you want it. Yeah. Yeah, you want the Johnson? Yeah, I want the Johnson. Give it to him. Okay, I'll give you the Johnson Wait, I just had I and I lost it. Here we go. Tremaine Johnson. That is bad that I didn't remember 2017 That's bad. Yeah, sometimes you forget Johnson Perhaps Yeah. Sometimes you forget Johnson. When you play with a lot of them, perhaps. Um, all right. Well, comfortable artists. He's looking around. What is he going to say? He's going to be looking for a new head coach tomorrow. We keep this going. Listen, this isn't a Schrager sit down. Okay. Oh, well we love Schrager too. Uh, all right. Last question, uh, brought to
Starting point is 01:34:41 you by Chevy, Chevy.com Chevy Silverado toughest Silverado toughest truck out there. So we started with this but what happened with the Super Bowl suite? Are you gonna give us one next time you're in the Super Bowl? Let's understand the parameters. You know I don't think I understood the you know what are we looking for? What's something that all right if we get there again what's a okay now here's the thing too you guys don't need it. No, no. I'm asking you guys for freaking tickets. Right. All right. So here's what, here's, I'll make a deal with you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:11 No Superbowl suite. I just want to be able to call one play and I have the dialogue. I can't promise. Okay. It'll come up, but you want, you want to play as long as I think that we agree. It's a reasonable decision. Ready for this play. Yeah. Fake punt punt. I'm fucking confused. Okay, you snap the ball to the full back or someone standing about five yards behind the center.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Oh, I know, but why? And then he's facing me for punting it on fourth down. I understand, but no one expects the fake punt punt. Cause they say, oh, fake punt, then he laterals the punter, then he punts. When are we doing this? Second down. Why would we just give away a possession?
Starting point is 01:35:45 It will fuck everyone up. Sometimes you gotta fuck people up. You know what? Sometimes you gotta shut the fuck up. Yeah. Fair. Fair. They can think you're crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Yeah. Just be like, this guy has lost his mind. Turner's going to come up, and he's going to try to tackle the fullback, pass it back to the punter, kicks it, pins him deep at the one, then you get a safety. Yeah. OK, all right.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I lost my play calling safety. Yeah. Okay. All right. I lost my play calling privileges. Um, well, coach, what would you say if someone actually did that? I'd be like, fake pun pun. I've been asking for years. What if the bears do that in a one possession game with three minutes left? And they're down. Did it work?
Starting point is 01:36:19 I mean, it pins them deep, but then they never see the ball again. The fake pun pun is not what you're like. I would probably honestly, I think I'd die with the fake pun pun. I'd be like, that was sick. I would actually appreciate it. I could see Iowa actually doing that. Yeah. That would not shock me. They'd find a way to come away with the dub. Yeah. No one's ever expected the fake pun pun. Someone's going to do it. And I think that the other coach was insane. I'd be afraid of them. Yeah. That's what I would say. I'd be like, yeah That'd be concerning. Yeah. Yeah. Well coach we really appreciate it. We love having you on the show being a recurring guest We're rooting for you guys. Best luck this year. You guys too. We're happy you stayed in football. Yeah I am too man. It's good to see you guys again. It's been a while. Yes. How was the hardball interview? Oh, he was great
Starting point is 01:37:01 He was awesome. Awesome guys talking chicken We can eat chicken again. We can eat chicken again. I love that guy. He gave us permission and he invented a rivalry trophy. That was pretty cool. He's the man. Oh, I have one last, last, last question.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Would you coach U.S. soccer? How long do you think it would take for you to become like an excellent soccer coach? I got a lot of... Here's what I... Arsenal. So I've had some interactions with Mikel Arteta. I tell you what, I played soccer when I was growing up. The, the technician, the tactical approach, unbelievable. No way. Those guys do a great job, but I'd work my ass off to figure
Starting point is 01:37:33 it out. Like Ted Lasso. Yeah. I think you could do it. I think if we gave, if we gave you like five months, you'd be better than Greg or whatever his name was. Yeah. You would.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Hey, it's, it's hard. Coaching is hard. Yeah. All right. Thanks coach. Thanks fellas. That interview was presented by her good friends at Chevy there's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks That's because for part of my take there's only one pickup truck. It's the Chevy Silverado
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Starting point is 01:40:41 Henry. I think this was a Fire Fest IRE. It was a it was a great week. I love great week. I love LA I had a great time. Yeah, you want to move here? Like if hey, I mean well I have like four firefests one of them was that every time we come to LA or California Hank just says I want to move here so bad and I hate you guys. Yeah, not the latter Well, no, I mean you want to move away from us It's it hurts every time but that like we came here when I was 20
Starting point is 01:41:11 What did I say like we've we've come here? Oh, no? I know you've been hurting my feelings for over a decade now Yeah, Hank will let you know that he or the New York. I was like we should move to California for Chicago I was like we should move to California for Chicago. I was like we should move to California I'll never stop. I don't think you've made every time I come back it kind of reinforces it You've made it very clear that you don't want to be with us. Yeah, and that's okay. It hurts I've always wanted to live in California. Yeah With none of your friends. I have friends here's born. Oh, he wants all the boys He wants all the boys in California. I wanted to be I want to be in California with my bros Which is what we did this week, which is why I was a great week. Yeah, we had active mornings
Starting point is 01:41:47 We did fun stuff. We did fun interviews No, so nothing bad You got enough naps in so yeah, you were good all week Hank when your firefest be that you're about to go back to Chicago And you're just gonna be thinking about California. You know, you'll never be near a beach or water ever again No, I look I like Chicago, too It's all good. It's all good. Thanks. It's been a good week. I don't like is there bad something bad I'm forgetting about no. Yeah, you've been a pleasure to be you've been fun. Yeah. Yeah, I've had a fun time being around you We do mm-hmm every minute. Well wait me too
Starting point is 01:42:19 I've had fun being around you guys, too I like I like I like I like being out of the office less corporate nonsense Less meetings. There's just bros. Yeah bros on the road corporate nonsense meetings the summer games I actually wish that we were there for the summer games. I look like fun. Well, we got camp arse. We can parcel coming up That's facts. I just like being you know, it's we have more fun when they're on the road. Yeah No, we've had a great time. We've had we've had some what it was that What's that Max? Well, I mean this is Hank just for
Starting point is 01:42:49 Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of work, but we've had our fights have been very fun jovial fights tank Is Hank gaslighting it is that what you're saying? No, it's just Hank. Well Hank forgets the no Well, that's a part of it. This is a fact and I I mean I was in your guys shoes for for five years It's not as fun you know oh yeah you guys do yeah but I used to have to do that and now it also puts in perspective and I don't have to do it that it's like it is shout out the boys on Tuesday night all the behind-the-scenes boys and Max who's both behind the scenes and on scenes or in front of the camera they I think they all slept like one hour yeah yeah I know people are like where's the podcast? Where's the podcast and I know that's a running joke
Starting point is 01:43:28 But they are always getting the podcast up. Yeah, it was a late night and there I mean shout out pug edited through a through an earthquake Yeah So that's a fire first. I didn't feel there that was one of mine big fire fast I was really upset if you're gonna be in an earthquake you want to feel the earthquake Yeah But the group thing back to grit week one when it was like we had to drive the bus clean the bus set up like we Had one person that's fact there was there was about so I'd say like great We hours respected this week where the bus smelled like absolute piss. Yeah
Starting point is 01:43:57 I don't know what that was was that I think you piss Huey made a face like bus life We made if I Huey I wasn't gonna say that you made a face like no I it just smelled bad, and it was that nothing to do with me, okay? If you saw his face on that camera it it made me think no I I Think it was the bus driver. Oh The one who's not here to defend child Charlie he was great that are you tall? But yeah, the one who's not here to defend himself, Utah number two. Yeah, he's from Utah for those. Okay. Yeah This is his experience. Um Yeah
Starting point is 01:44:37 Did smell I did find some Febreze and that helped appreciate that. Thank you. It smells great on here now That out appreciate that. Thank you. It smells great on here now Okay, all right PFT he's like a Press conference after like he just blew a game. Yeah Huey under the mic Okay, he did great Huey PFT. I got I got a few of them. I guess funniest moment of the week is probably Huey I don't know if we're not probably. No, I'm gonna say. We gotta bring that up.
Starting point is 01:45:07 I wanna see, I wanna, no, I wanna see. Well, no, we have two funny Huey moments. One we'll save for next week, but the other one, I wanna see if he's gonna use it as Fire Fest. If he doesn't, I'm gonna say it. I won't say it as my Fire Fest, I'm assuming. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about. All right, let's go, Huey, go now.
Starting point is 01:45:24 All right, Hue Are you you go? Okay, oh Jonah to our sound guy who always comes with the best the best he's the best the best Just listens as well bitch at each other for yeah He just sits there and giggles Jonah could write a great like tell-all article and just being like this is what these guys Really are like they are the same on the show as they are in real person They're just always bickering and making jokes at each other's expense Jonah. You won't you won't write a tell-all novel, right? I Actually record I actually wouldn't mind if you wrote an article just for us Just like this is what I think. You ever thought about blogging?
Starting point is 01:46:07 Jonah. I haven't, no. Jonah, what do you think? Good answer. Jonah, what do you think when you just watch us in our, like, we're just all making fun of each other, kind of fighting? Like, are you ever like, do these guys even like each other?
Starting point is 01:46:23 No, it's very much friendly. Yeah, you know entertaining Because it is pretty much we do the show when we're not doing the show. Yeah Well shout out Jonah Jonah's the man Okay, Huey back to you buddy. I am my fire fest Sweating oh, huh?. Can't stop it. Yeah. Um, yeah. I, after the, uh, the great time with must the other day, we, uh, I took a shower, a
Starting point is 01:46:53 cold shower, didn't help. Yeah. Still sweating. Uh, it was a hot gym. It was a two hour gap in between the shower and the meet and greet. Still sweating. Yeah. And then I think the meet-and-greet made me nervous didn't want to fuck up any pictures You know wanted to be nice to everybody. It was a tight narrow area. So you know trying to maneuver
Starting point is 01:47:14 I think I just think I got hot Yeah, and it was yeah, so and I hands I have not been I mean hands are just And hands have not been, I mean hands are just been lit up. They're just wet all the time. The wettest hands in the world. Oh, I feel so bad for our friend. I don't know if I, Mr. Rosillo. Yeah. I mean when I shook his hand, it was bad.
Starting point is 01:47:33 It was wet. And he, I mean it was a blatant wipe off and I couldn't say no. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that wasn't what I was gonna say what your fire fres was. I thought what your fire fres was gonna be on all the way back to Sunday When we were at Chargers camp and we finished taping with coach Jim Harbaugh Yeah, and you're a big Michigan fan. Yeah and coach
Starting point is 01:47:58 Turned and pointed at you and he said what did this guy win a contest or something? Yeah He's like, how'd you or something? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, how'd you get here? Yeah, I got that vibe, yeah. No, no, he said that. Yeah, I realized that. And then it hit me a couple, about an hour later, is when I realized, oh, that didn't sound good.
Starting point is 01:48:19 That didn't sound good. In a way, you kinda did win a contest. Yeah, and it was like my first day on like an actual like shoot like that So I really didn't know what the hell to do and where to go. So I looked like a fool. Yeah And so yeah, I mean I was I was just kind of um, yeah I was I mean, I I'm gonna be honest with you. I think he thought I was from like a make-a-wish or something Yeah, no that he said
Starting point is 01:48:43 What he win a contest or something. Yeah, like, so that's rough. But you got your picture. And then we were like, no, he's our intern. He's like, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, and he's a cool guy. You know, we'll meet him again. You know? It won't be the end of me.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Your paths will cross. Yeah, so it'll be all right. But yeah, no, that one definitely, I sat in my bed that night thinking oh fuck Like later on at night put his head on his pill. He's like, oh shit. Oh, I do like the Rossello thing I regret it. I regret voting for Angel Reese for uh, oh, yeah, that didn't go well Yeah, cuz I was like, it's clearly Caitlin. I mean she's averaging like 20 and 10. I might I panicked. Yeah, that's okay. It's a good job Yeah, that's a little tease tease tease. You're doing a great job. Yeah. Thank you
Starting point is 01:49:32 The hardball thing is nothing compared to the yeah, we'll tell that on my that'll be yeah, it's so good I wish we had that on film. I'm so pissed that we did that we have a good laugh. Yeah Yeah, that was a good one today. Yeah. Yeah, that was the most nervous I think I was the whole week which is crazy because you've been nervous all week. Oh No, I won't but oh boy, yeah, oh boy, okay Means laugh like this Huey, how do you spell that? Well, um, H-I-B-B-I-D-Y-D-I-B-B. Can you get the language of origin, please? Huey.
Starting point is 01:50:17 I-D-Y. Yes, that's correct. I think. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's a test. Yeah. You hate tests, but you did good. Yeah, finally
Starting point is 01:50:29 All right, pft your fire fest. I got I got a few fire fest I guess it's been a good week when I echo what Hank said it's fun hanging out with you boys It does kind of take me back to like the first great week and the second great week When we were like in a van or we were on a bus that was breaking down a Lot of fun being out here on the road And I do love you guys and I love all the AWLs and I tell them at the end of every episode that I love them And yesterday I said it and then it didn't end up in the final cut So they thought that I didn't love them. So I don't know. I think it was that Hank. Were you editing Hank? I Did blame Hank on Twitter. Oh
Starting point is 01:51:04 That was your fire fest Hank You didn't get included in the production picture. Oh Yeah, no that was that was that was funny though. Yeah banter. Yeah, that was that was that was my fault and The back ends fault because I fixed it and then it didn't fix Sounds like the back end is the fall guy here I also might have told you when we did the UFC part that you didn't say it, you just didn't say it. UFC? UFC? What UFC thing do we do this week? It's been a long week.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Yeah. Well, I tried to fix it and... I tried to fix it in real time. Just so the AWLs know, I tried to fix it and it added an hour, it legitimately added an hour of me waking up or being awake that night. Which put my sleep from what would have been three hours to two hours. No, it was, it was definitely my fault for not saying it at the end. No, it's my fault. Also my fault off. This is a good time to announce that we're going to start releasing the video of the
Starting point is 01:51:58 podcast at the exact same time every, every morning, right? Hank, what time? Seven AM. Seven AM Eastern. Eastern. Eastern. Eastern, the podcast will come out as soon as it's ready, but it's better for the algorithm,
Starting point is 01:52:10 it's also better for Pug. 7 a.m. Eastern will be the best. People are still gonna be so mad. That's okay, I understand that. People are gonna be mad, but you can listen to the podcast and it will be out at 7 a.m. Eastern. Podcast will be out. It helps the algorithm, we appreciate everyone helping the algorithm. You can listen to the podcast whenever it's be out at 7 a.m. Eastern. Podcasts will be out. It helps the algorithm. We appreciate everyone helping the algorithm.
Starting point is 01:52:26 You can listen to the podcast whenever it's done. Correct. And if you're fiending for the YouTube, you can wait till 7 a.m. That's fair. That's very fair. Yeah. That's very fair.
Starting point is 01:52:36 What are you looking at, Max? There's AWLs that are taking a picture. I thought they were gonna try. That's cool, I love them. Shout them out. Shout them out. I love those guys. Shout out AWLs.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Shout out AWLs. So I do love you despite the end of yesterday's episode. Other Fyre Fest, it's been about two weeks since I've been home. I don't know if the El Camino is going to start. I think the line on that is like plus 250 for whether or not it starts. It's one of those things you got to like pump every day. That's a thrill though. It is a thrill. That's going to is real real tomorrow. Yeah, I think it's it's Probably not likely to start the first time I don't know she's been on a hot streak, but I miss her and I'm gonna go home And I just remember today. I got a weed plant
Starting point is 01:53:15 I got a weed plant the day before I left and I put it I put in my backyard I dead has it been raining in Chicago. I don't think so. I think it's been beautiful No, it rained one one day, but not enough. Okay. Well, does that make maybe that's perfect? Cuz I'm trying to grow shitty weed because we were we didn't have enough guys for a softball team We had and we had the forfeit. Okay. Well, maybe maybe I'm growing like tough shitty resilient weed So it might be perfect for what I'm looking for. Yeah, so the yeah the El Camino and then Pre-fire fest the air and water shows the Air and Water show was on Saturday. And last year was a disaster when I misidentified the F-16.
Starting point is 01:53:51 So I haven't done any research as to what planes are flying at all. I have no idea. But it's a big redemption story for me on Saturday. So God willing, I'll nail it. OK. My Firefest is Hank Hurt My Feelings. I didn't feel an earthquake.
Starting point is 01:54:10 You love California more than us, it's fun. You hurt my feelings. I love you more than California. I want us to move together. I love you more than the state of California. I love you more than the state of California, but I would love to love you in the state of California. Ha ha ha ha. Quote card. Yeah. Shane, quote card. That's what I'm saying to love you in the state of California.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Quote card. Yeah. Shane, quote card. That's a quote card. That's one of the first states where that would have been allowed. Yeah. All right. So yeah, I guess my real fire fest is I love Grit Week.
Starting point is 01:54:39 It's always fun being on the road with the boys. We got ups and downs, fun. I'm just, I'm feeling my age. This was the first great week where I was feeling my age. We were doing a lot of activities and my body is not responding well. Yeah, the days were like 16 hours long. Yeah, we surfed, played frisbee golf, we did a workout at USC, We did a bunch of interviews. I'm just, my bounce back is not there. So just facing that is tough.
Starting point is 01:55:10 But I still love Grit Week. Still fun. Also, I won't apologize for getting triggered about Caleb Williams. Cause then after the show on Wednesday, he went viral again cause he has a purse. Yeah, I can't believe we missed the purse in real time. How long did he have the same exact purse? I'm gonna get the same purse. I'm gonna start carrying it around
Starting point is 01:55:27 listen My guard is up The first thing I it's like people What if his playbooks in there if you're in a facility like it's a it's a basically backpack Yeah, basically, this is why I didn't want hard knocks pretty much suitcase Yeah, it is. I'm gonna get the same one and I'm gonna start carrying around a purse And so you're gonna get a purse you're gonna paint your nails. Yeah, I'll paint my nails. Mm-hmm If we start winning football games and paint my nails it is it's sad that we didn't pick it up in real time though
Starting point is 01:55:56 No, we didn't see it happen. Yeah, I was just thinking about his ass Yeah, and any HBO slander. Yeah, So, uh, alright. Good week, boys. Fun. Always love grit week. Had a blast. Great times. Learned Hank doesn't know what color pepper jack cheese is. I still can't believe that. Alright, should we do numbers? Oh, I guess another Fire Fest is, Max, I didn't realize it as we did the show. You actually got the number. I know. Yeah, he did. Yeah. But it's not the lottery ball. It's not the ball. You didn't get the ball. It's not the lottery ball. You got the number. But you've never gotten the lottery ball. The question is, have you ever gotten the number? No. The question is, have
Starting point is 01:56:36 you ever gotten the lottery ball? No. Well, I just changed the question. Yeah. All right. So we do numbers. 2228 go 5642. I mean, I already won this. 993 for memes. Tim, you want a number? 3333 Jonah to there? No, he's trying lemonade. He's trying lemonade, okay. He's not feeling very well. 15. 15. Love you guys. T-bone.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Love you guys. I don't know what I'm to say, I'll say it anyway. Today's another day to find you. Shine away, I'll be coming for your love, okay? Another day to find you shine away I'll be coming for your love. Okay, I Be coming for your love, okay I'm never running away, slowly learning that life is okay Say up to me, it's so better to be safe than sorry Say up to me, it's so better to be safe than sorry Things that you say, is it all I've got?
Starting point is 01:58:21 Just to play my memories away You're all things I've got this to blame, memories away You're all the things I've got to remember Maybe shy and away I'll be coming for you anyway Maybe shy and away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take on me Take on me
Starting point is 01:58:46 Take me on Take on me I'll keep you gone Let it go Take on me I take on you Take on me Take me on Take on me
Starting point is 01:59:13 I take on you Take on me Take on me Take me up I'll be your

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