Pardon My Take - Randy Moss, Eddie Hearn & Chris Paul Might Be Good

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

Chris Paul may be considered “good at basketball” after what he did Wednesday night. We’re not giving up on the take though. (00:02:48:-00:12:00:13) We talk NBA and NHL playoffs plus Billy gets cancelled live during the show. (00:12:18-00:33:25) Our long time friend Randy Moss joins the show to preview the Kentucky Derby, best storylines, and picks for Friday and Saturday. (00:34:58-00:58:18) Boxing Promoter Eddie Hearn joins us live in studio to talk about Canelo vs Bivol, life in the boxing promoter world, darts and tons more. (00:59:42-01:41:18). We finish up with Fyre Fest of the weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have a two for for the people. We have Eddie Hernds, awesome interview, founder of Matchroom Sports. He is basically the biggest promoter, boxing promoter in England. Also starting to get pretty damn big in America.

He will be, he put together the Canelo fight on Saturday night. Great talk with him, what it means to be a boxing promoter. Everything behind the scenes. Also bonus accent, accents always play on this show. Great accent from Eddie Hernds in studio. And then we have our good friend, Randy Moss. Randy Moss back on the show, Derby winners. Kentucky Derby this weekend.

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Today is Friday, May 6th and PFT. I think we got a problem. I think we've got a big time problem. The fact that you know, Chris Paul might be good at basketball. Yeah, so I think he's confirmed good at basketball. That's never been the problem about Chris Paul, big cat. Chris Paul has always been good. In fact, the word good is the perfect word.

That's a good word to describe Chris Paul. He's good. I put out one of those tweets. I did one of these got to go and I put LeBron, Kareem, Chris Paul and MJ on there. People still think that Chris Paul is the one that's got to go. So he's good. He's not great yet, but I mean, he looks unstoppable. He he what he did to the Mavericks in the fourth quarter last night was

and he's been doing it. He's been doing it all season. He's been doing his whole career where basically the first half he basically figures everything out, gets everyone else involved. And then in the fourth quarter, he's got it all figured out. He dices and slices everyone to like insane, insane precision. It was it was crazy to watch. They went into the fourth quarter last night.

The Suns had a six point lead. There were 10 possessions to start the fourth quarter. The Suns went eight for eight on those possessions. Chris Paul personally went six for six with two assists. So he basically just he demolished the Mavericks by himself by being Chris Paul in like a five minute span. It started, like I said, they were up six with four minutes left. They were up 24.

It was like it happened like that. And I'm starting to get nervous because everyone who listens to this show knows that we love takes more than anything. And just because all the facts will show us something different, doesn't mean we'll get off a take. And I can enjoy Chris Paul because I did. It was an incredible performance, but I really don't want to lose this take. I don't want him to win a championship, but then we can't have this take.

That's very fun to to throw around and just pretend that it's all about rings, even though we know in the back of our heads, Chris Paul is an incredible, incredible point guard in like top top three, whatever, four point guard of all time. Listen, we will never apologize for a take on this show. We'll never make an excuse for it. That's the part in my take difference. But I think that Chris Paul in a weird way, I would kind of like him to destroy this take. I'm almost in a weird way.

I'm almost rooting for him because like at the end of the day, I think we have always acknowledged that Chris Paul is an awesome basketball player. We just like rooting for the fact that there's a narrative out there against him. And it's fun to talk about if I'm the sons, I would think about doing load management in the playoffs, but not by load managing Chris Paul. I would start to worry about like load managing all the other good players around Chris Paul so that they're less likely to get hurt

so that Chris Paul won't then have that excuse later. Like it's almost time to be like, you know what? We're going to sit Booker and Aten for this game because we've looked so dominant and we just want to reduce the amount of time that they have to get injured and then give Chris Paul another excuse to not win a championship. It also is an issue. I love that idea. It's an issue that comes down to it's very relatable in sports,

fandom and especially in friendship. Ryan Rosillo has made it to a point where it's like, I want Chris Paul to fail because I know how much it matters to him. And that's really what like if you break down like what male friendship is about, it's essentially like rooting for your other friends to fail in not like fail in a terrible, terrible way like their life ruined. But the thing they love in sports, you want to see it fail so that you can laugh at them. Well, yeah, that's what it's all about.

What we're rooting for is to have an ability to bust Ryan Rosillo's balls forever about something. It's really like we will be 95 years old. Ryan will be, you know, still probably waking up at six a.m. chugging whey protein. He'll he'll make the retirement home install squat rack in there for him and will be 90 years old and still dropping in being like, Hey, Ryan, you remember when Chris Paul choked away at playoff series in 2022 after you called him your son?

Yeah. And he'll be like, I'm going to come visit you. And he'll do advanced analytics would be like, and how many championships does he have? And it's no different than when we talk about it when any of our teams are making a run. We, I think we all deep down root for our, you know, I root for PFT teams or Hanks teams or or Billy's team. Well, the Jets don't matter, but Jake's teams to make a run, but eventually fail because that's the fun in it. Like it's, it's fun to see your friends happy for a little bit,

but you also want to see them terribly, terribly upset at sports. And that's really what it all boils down to. I think it also has something to do with the fact that we know eventually, like subconsciously, my friends teams are eventually going to be good at sports. There's there's something good that will eventually happen to them. So I'm almost like rooting for them to be miserable now, knowing that like, they'll get their shot in the future. Like with Jake, I'm sure that the Panthers will win a Stanley Cup, but it's too early for them.

The metrics have shown that already. So I want him to have to suffer through what I suffered through before he reaches that mountaintop. Right. And you want to build up everyone. Like you almost want them to get so confident and then have it all come crashing down because those are the moments we live for. I mean, that's, this is again, this is like the, when you, when you just boil down friendship, you want your friends to again, fail in a sport, not fail in life, but fail in this type of situation to a point where you can just laugh in their

face and they have no comeback. That's, there's no better gift. You can give your friends than have that happen to one of your teams. So really. Thank you Ryan selfish. He's selfish. If, if Chris Paul wins a championship, because he's robbing us of what makes us happy. So yeah, that would be a selfish human being. I just described a selfish human being. But when, unlike us, who we're rooting for his team to fail, not because it makes us feel better, but because it would actually strengthen our friendship over the long term, because it's something good to bounce back.

You know what it is? It's also an excuse to text your friends sometimes. Guys, we don't, we don't talk that much, but when one of their teams absolutely fucks up, it's an excuse to pop in and be like, Hey, you asshole, you see what just happened? And that's our way of saying, I love you. Yeah, you good. Yeah. Like family good. Yeah. Dog good. All right. Cool. Yeah. We should also talk about in this game, Luca Donchich, I've never seen anyone get picked on star player, get picked on the way he got picked on down the stretch.

I think I saw the stat. I think they hunted him and pick and roll 50 times in that game. It was, and like they were so incredibly efficient every single time they went after him. At one point I was like, because he went in the locker room. I don't know. You know, he obviously is, is dealing with his hamstring, but if I were him, I would have just said I'm hurt and just left. You know what I mean? That's you can't, it was so obvious what they were doing every single time. And it was so obvious that Luca had no answer.

And I will remind everyone, Mavs fans and Luca fans, he's 23 years old. So like to be like, Hey, he'll never get better. It's crazy. But last night was, it was, it was essentially the sun's like, we're personally like, we're going to embarrass Luca on a national stage time and time again. We're not even going to take a possession off. We're not even going to give him like, ooh, this is actually bad. That was what it felt like. It felt personal and it felt very embarrassing for Luca. There's one team that can take advantage of him like that's the sun's too.

That's like what they do best is they find guys and they do the pick and roll. And then when, when I was watching Luca struggle to defend, he's back to like 20, 20 heavy legs. Luca, you remember that when he had that like one stretch, when his legs just looked like they, his, his center of gravity shrunk by about like three inches and he doesn't look healthy. He doesn't look like he's able to move around. He looks like he's trying to play defense in quicksand.

And yeah, the sun's, I do feel bad for, but what are you going to do? It's not like you, you don't really have any other options if you're the Mavericks. The pick and roll, when done properly, is impossible to defend in the first place. And the sun's do it as good as any other team does it. And they just happen to be going up against maybe the worst person to defend the pick and roll. So they're just kind of fucked. Yeah, they're fucked. And the one spins on a throw out there for Luca fans and Mads fans.

Luca has set himself up perfectly for a season or two from now to be in the best shape of his life. To be like, I've, I've changed my diet. I got a new nutritionist. I put a million dollars into my training. Like he, that it's actually, I'd almost, I'd almost be like sleeping okay at night if I were a Mavs fan. If, if Luca were like shredded right now and was getting shredded,

I'd be very nervous, but it's clearly he can get in better shape. So you always have that in your back pocket. It's actually like a great lesson in life of why you should always stay a little bit overweight, because you can always say, I haven't peaked. Like I can't, I can still reach my level of best shape of my life. And when I do, you all better watch out. And that's what Luca can do. He should just have like day one of next season, have Josh Allen drive

his car in and step out and be like, oh my God, Luca is so jacked up. Look at him right now. He does look like Josh Allen with diabetes, doesn't he? Yeah, a little bit with Josh has to get some tattoos. Luca's tattoos are cool. Like Luca's tattoos. I don't know why, but I just, I mean, it's probably because he's cool to watch. You know, when you do cool things with tattoos, you just immediately

become a certified badass. And so as long as he just doesn't have to play defense, they actually switched to a zone for a little bit, which was so, so like offensive. Yeah, but it was so offensive. It was, I know I brought up pick up on Wednesday and obviously the NBA is not pick up, but that was very similar where it's like, dude, we got switched to a zone because we, you can't guard anyone. You know what I would do?

I would do the triangle and two. That's, that was the best defense ever. If you were playing like youth league basketball, because every team would have one guy that was awesome. And then the rest of the team would stake. And so you'd say, okay, let's just put two dudes on this one guy and then we'll do the other three in a low post zone and they aren't going to guard anybody or do it.

They're just going to hang out and stand around. Like, why not try the boxing one? Why not try the triangle and two? Like take it all the way back to when you're six years old and throw everything, every defense that you can possibly think at him. Yes, I agree. I agree. Boxing one and have someone just, you know, get shredded personally.

That's not Luca by Chris Paul. Other, other series. I'm just not into this series until indeed comes back and I don't know if he will, but the heat are just so much better than the sixers right now. And it's like, it's actually, oh, it's perfect for Doc Rivers and James Harden because James Harden's been bad. Doc Rivers has been bad because he continues to play not a small lineup and like, be like, Hey, maybe we can have a crazy variance game and win this.

But they both have perfect outs because in beat is out. And it's like, yeah, you lost what, a top three NBA player in a series. No one expects you to win this. So I watched that game last night. I was like, it was one of those games where the sixers flirted with it every now and then, but it was never, it was never really a game. Yeah. I saw Hank shrug your shoulders when he said, nobody expects you to win this one.

Hank, do you still have expectations for the six? Like, would you consider it a failure if the sixers lost the series? Well, like, I just hate that excuse. Like when they lose and probably get swept, like I'm going to be like dancing on their grave and sixer fans are going to be like, Oh, we didn't have a bead, but I'm just going to be retweeting. You know, there was a couple of times like in the regular season, I was like, bring us Philly and they're like, you don't want that.

You don't want that. You know, and when they got it, when they got hard and people were like, Oh, they started playing the parade. So if James Harden, you know, is supposed to be like your number two player, he had four points in the second half of game one, four points in the second half of game two. Like it's not, it's a five man team. You know, there's more than one player.

Like if you're supposed to be one of the best teams in the East, like one player going down, Marcus Martin, play for the Celtics. They still won defensive player of the year. Marcus Martin still unbeat. No, yeah, that's fair. Well, yeah, Marcus Martin actually wins a Leaf NBA award. Still unbeat, just come in a second. All right.

What about you, Jake? Where are you at? Yeah, I mean, he are rolling right now. This game, I understand it got kind of close, but they were never in danger of losing this game. I mean, in game one, Tyler Hero came off the bench and had a great game. Oladipo is returning to Oladipo form. He had 19 points.

I'm feeling good. You think it's sweep? Maybe. I just, yeah, I mean, the heat deserve all the credit because they're a very good team and bam is incredible. I just, I was watching that game being like, I'm not really interested in this because Joellen B, not being here means that this is not like the heat deserve everything they've gotten.

Yeah, it's one seed. Then it's not taking anything away. I'm just not, I guess what I'm what I'm trying to say is the series does not feel like a threat whatsoever to the heat without Joellen B. Like there's no, it's a foregone conclusion. If Joellen B doesn't play, this will be a sweep or five games. It actually feels like it feels bad watching the Sixers play and it feels bad watching James Harden play because I think it's on us.

Like we know what James Harden does. We know James Harden actually isn't an elite player in the NBA anymore. He's not a number one option on any team. No, he's just not, but he's going to still get paid like he is one. He's probably got another contract where he can like, he can have a good off season, trick somebody into giving him a big contract. But James Harden isn't good enough to win a series on his own. He's not even good enough to make a series competitive on his own.

So yeah, it's just kind of sad watching it. And I'm mostly sad because we talk about how much we love the narratives. I can't even chalk this series up to Doc Rivers. I can't, there's nothing I can do right now. Doc Rivers, this is the Joellen B getting injured is actually the best thing that could have happened to Doc Rivers during these playoffs. That's my point. It's it's robbed us like James Harden.

I want Joellen B to play. I want Joellen B to be dominating and then we could be like, oh, Doc fucked up and James Harden's a bump. Yep. Yep. Right now it doesn't we can't say that now I have to be realistic. I have to be like James Harden isn't a number one option anymore. I don't want to think like that. I want to be like James Harden is supposed to be the best number two

in the league and indeed is the MVP. So he claims how come Doc Rivers can't get these two guys to win a second round playoff series? That's what I want to do. I want I want a game seven and Doc Rivers plays Joellen B 48 minutes. Doesn't give him any breaks and he's like dying on the floor and everyone's like, dude, give him like one minute and then James Harden misses a wide open three to win the game to end the game.

And I can just run away with that and be like, that was awesome. We don't get any of that. No, we just basically get yeah, James Harden is not that good, not as good as he used to be and he's not playing well. And Doc Rivers, while his rotations are suspect, he doesn't really have any options because his best player is not there. We've been robbed. Yes, been robbed.

Ideally, what would happen would be it would be game seven in Miami and like James Harden comes right over from Gold Rush Cabaret and he's fat. He's sweating. His eyes are bleeding because he's drank so much vodka. And then then Joellen B like passes out from dehydration with one minute left. And he's just like laying on the court motionless like his leg twitches and Doc Rivers still won't stop about. That's what I want to have happen.

And it's been robbed from me. And I don't appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. So well, obviously this weekend, I don't know what. Well, I do know why they're not playing tonight. The NHL is king. This is our hockey fans better be celebrating tonight, Thursday night, Cinco de Mayo as like the greatest achievement of hockey versus NBA rivalry.

They should be. But the NBA is not playing because NHL is on TNT tonight. Like the NHL won tonight. I feel like hockey fans is not in their nature, though, to celebrate that. They're they're they're probably weeping because there are no more worlds left to conquer. This is like everything they've wanted. But then hockey fans, most of their their fandom is tied up into being like,

hey, you should be a hockey fan. Why are you a basketball fan? Now that they finally got that for a night, it's like, what do I do? They're looking around and there's no more targets. They're they're just going around on Twitter right now, trying to find people with LeBron James avatars and just sending them digital handshakes. They're probably a good good series out there, boys. They're probably just knocking on doors being like, hey, just in case

you don't have the channel, the hockey's on right now. Just like randomly, cold calling people. I mean, good for the NHL, but also this is NFL is king. I can't believe we haven't talked about that yet because it's a big night for the NFL. The schedule schedule announcement, schedule announcement. What time is that? I think it's next week. I think it's tonight.

I think it's a couple of hours. I thought it was next week, too. Next week, too. Yeah, can you check, Jake? Here, I'll do an ad. You check, Jake. May 12. Raising Canes.

Oh, this is 12. OK, so here's the announcement for the announcement. It's one week from today. Well, I can understand your confusion, PFT, because in in typical NFL, they did the announcement for the announcement like two weeks ago. I love that. Then they announced the the international games earlier this week. I thought that was the teaser for the full announcement,

but they're going to do another week. It's a three week situation here. We're really dragging this thing out. You know what we got to do when they do announce that when they announce the schedule, we should grade the schedules. We should give schedule grades. Shout out to Jags. By the way, I just want to say I want to defend the Jaguars.

So I want to defend the Jaguars. The Jaguars did the grades are in post where it was basically every one, every website that graded the Jaguars draft and they included our A plus grade, which if you listen to the show on Monday, draft grades are the dumbest thing ever. So we made a mockery of it and we just gave a pluses and Fs and the Steelers got to see, but the Jaguars included us and a lot of people were like, I can't believe they included it. I think the Jaguars are in on the job.

Of course they are. They're a million percent. Like I going back to like 2013, 2014, like between the Jaguars, main Twitter account, Jackson DeVille, their mascot, they've been going back and forth with us. Right. They get it. So people, people going after the Jags being like, how could they do that? They got got it.

It's like, no, no, no, they get it. And I hope more teams understand like we, we will give you any grade you want. If you show us love, we will give you an A plus. You could go, you could, you could go three and 14 next year. We'll say a plus for your season. Yeah. Use me, daddy. Do anything you want to me. Yes.

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And I'm so, so excited to go back to it. So it's actually it's making new friends for people out there. It's not it's that. And boys, like I've thought about this. I know it's like a sad thing to just have pop in your head. But like we obviously work late nights and we're ordering dinner and Billy's always being like, hey, what's the move? The fact that we get Raisin Canes in our rotation now is incredible.

Like just being like Canes, let's get Canes. It's going to be, I would say that conservatively speaking, if Raisin Canes opens sometime this I don't know when they're open the Times Square. If it's open for football season, I would say we're going to get Raisin Canes 10 out of the 17 weeks. 18 weeks, 10 out of the 18 weeks. All right. Before we do our interviews, we talk a little hockey.

We also have an unbelievable take quake from Bob Ryan that we should shout out real quick Bob Ryan last night. I guess he was saying it on the round the horn and he doubled down. He said the three point shot distorts the game at every level. Discourages, pivot play and prop promotes a mindset that leads to stupid shots just because we never needed it. It's the gimmick of promoter named Abe Saperstein. Worse thing to happen to basketball in my lifetime.

Whoa, there's a lot of bad stuff that happened to basketball in his his life. The game was probably a lot more simple before the three point shot. I'll give him that, I think. But yeah, this is a fight that he's I think he's been like waiting to bring back up for a long, long, long time. Because I imagine the three point advocates one probably like I'd say that debate probably stopped on a national level around 1988. Yeah. Yeah.

It's well, it's one of those takes that's a take quake, but there is a kernel of truth because the three point shot is good for basketball. Shooting is part of basketball to be like it's a gimmick. No, you should award guys who can hit like incredible shots. But his better point is that, yeah, they're like the reliance on three point shots, there is too much of that. And I think we everyone's talked about this. Everyone knows that like the corner three is too easy.

Teams only shooting threes or like dunks kind of makes the game a little bit boring. But to say that three point shot is the worst thing to happen to basketball in his lifetime. I mean, coach Kay happened to basketball in his lifetime. What the fuck? That's insane. Yeah, I think if anything, you can just say, like, move the three point line out, move it further out. You could have that same area.

I think that's if that's truly what he's getting at that he's doing. We've spotted a Steph Curry ruined basketball in the wild. If that's his point, then I think you can say move it back like three feet back at way the fuck up and you can get that Hank, you like that idea? Hank just gave a nice little nod there. I would like to see because then you you'd only have, you know, like the top players shooting threes still at that point. Right. And then it would open up the midrange game so much.

I think it might actually be a better product. I got I got a crazy idea throughout there. Have you guys ever watched like the I think it's US first Canada softball games they play where it's like grown men playing softball and just hitting dingers and literally every time they step to the plate, slow pitch softball, they could hit a dinger and they limit it. So it's like you can hit seven home runs this game and use it wisely. Use it when guys are on base.

What if there was a limit to the amount of three point shots you could take? So teams now have to strategize essentially like you get to take 33 pointers a game. And it's like, do you want to use them in the first quarter and get a big lead? Do you want to save them? How do you defend them knowing that like they have 20 left? Or if they have like five left, you can just basically pack the paint. I don't know the strategy. It's a stupid rule.

I admit that this is like a crazy cockamamie, like what the fuck are you talking about? But like when you actually think about it, it would be kind of cool to watch play out. I like that idea. It should do for an all star game. Yeah, or what if they made three point shots worth not points for your team, but like worth negative three points for the other team? Yeah, I don't think I would make any difference at all on the final score,

but it would be cool to see. And you could, by the way, you could under my idea, you could still take a three point shot after you hit over 30. It just would count as two. So it's like you can still spread the floor, but you just don't get the benefit of it. And like imagine going into a fourth quarter and being like, OK, the Suns have 15 three

pointers left and the Mavs have used all theirs. Yeah, Billy. What it would, it would be a lot of math, but it would be fun. Billy, you're really distracted. What are you doing? What what's on your mind? You've been leaning. You've been getting like closer and closer to the camera

with a creepier smile on your face. I think I posted a problematic tweet. Oh, no, breaking moves. What was it? Why are you tweeting during the during the pod, Billy? Oh, I'm doing a little blogging. OK, wait, I found it. He said, I don't get what the big deal is with this Roe v. Wade shit.

No, that's not it. The government should absolutely decide what they're doing with their body. Oh, I posted a video of I found. So I'm in these group chats where I get these insane videos. I post one of them and it's it's not going well. What was it? Did you delete it? Oh, really? Oh my God, what are you doing to Billy? What the fuck Billy Billy Billy Billy Billy.

Delete this. It's like these wild hogs killing a leopard. And it's like they're eating it in eating its eating it's neck. It's it's well. Why did you think that was a good idea? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Sorry, Billy. I'm all for like I do think it's weird whenever someone watches like a video in nature and they're like, oh, these poor zebras, someone save them. Like that is nature. But you don't need to see that on your timeline. I zoomed in.

Revelled. You're the you're you're you're like three wild hogs just just curb stomping a leopard. It's just crazy concerned. You were like this. I was watching your face. You were like, don't delete it. Don't delete it. That's how you're doing it already. Oh, shit. You post it again. Post it again. I'm treating Billy is canceled and let everyone figure out. No, Billy posted again and say, I'm sorry for deleting my tweet. Please continue roasting me under this new version of the tweet. Also, the parentheses of it says wild hogs kill leopard as if you didn't know what was going on in that video. No, but it's just crazy because usually the leopard kills the wild hogs. But now that we're seeing reverse the wild hogs killing the predator. Yeah, that's true. In most

videos that you've shown me, it is the leopard killing. This actually it looks like a like Buster Rhymes and Dave Chappelle curb stomping that guy that got on stage. Which by the way, did you see the gun that the guy had? I didn't. I tell me about it though. It was a gun, but it was really a knife. So you pulled the trigger on the gun and a knife came out the front. I can't think of any scenario where you would want to have like a more illegal thing that isn't actually functional and it turns into a less illegal thing. That's like weed. Yeah. I also saw the like the story. The headline was aspiring rapper. That's got to be brutal because that means that like someone listened and was like, okay, yeah, he's aspiring. He's not a rapper. Not there yet. He's aspiring. He's trying

to be a rapper. Billy, you're canceled. I just I just tweeted Billy's canceled. So you might as well put it back up. Okay, but I'm putting why I really deleted it is that I didn't want to get my account reported. So I put it on my burner. So I'm gonna post it from the burner. That's why you really, that's why you really deleted it not because everybody was roasting you. Well, I don't care about them. I think it was the wrong time because it was lunchtime and everyone's on their lunch break and they're like, I'm eating lunch. I went on Twitter's on the same time zone. You got to blame it on on PC culture, Billy. Yeah. Oh, I love the definition. Oh my god. Predator becomes pray. We're like having a conversation. You're watching. Yeah. You're

watching the YouTube. I like Billy's watching Billy like come to the realization that he posted a problematic tweet. It was an all time visual. Like you gotta watch the YouTube just for that. You could tell he was not listening at all. And he was just like, like, yeah, he's getting closer and closer to his computer like with a wider and wider smile. Oh my god. Oh my god. All right. Anything hockey. Let's just let's just move on. We'll do Randy Moss, Eddie Herds, anything hockey. The Maple Leafs. I'm starting to feel No, the Leafs are fine. That was bad. Leafs are bad. Leafs are fine. They'll figure out that's the Leafs here. I'm still confident in the boys up north. I just don't feel bad for

Rangers fans. They're down so bad. Even if they went tonight, it wasn't really even worth it. Like it's not even going to replace half the pain of what they went through earlier this week. I feel like they're going to win tonight. I hope they're going to win tonight. I really hope. Although there's there is a big part of me that would really like to see penguins caps. I would love to see that one more time. They're going to win tonight. I'm going to put my No, I'm not going to do game of the year. I almost did that. They're going to win tonight. I'm going to win tonight. I'm also thinking that tonight, Jake, I'm going to graciously allow Jake to beat the capitals tonight. I think tonight is the Panthers night. So congrats,

Jake. We'll see some rats on the ice. Is that what you guys do? They throw rats on the ice after a win. You throw rat like actual rats. Toy rats. If it was actual rats, I'd be impressed. Yeah. Let's get to let's do Randy Moss first. Kentucky Derby picks and then we'll go to Eddie Hearn. We're going to get to Randy Moss in a second, but he's brought to you by game time. If you're in Louisville this weekend and you're looking to go to the Derby, guess what you should use? Game time. That's right. The game time app can get you into any event, any sports game, any concert that you want. They've got the best place to find the cheapest last minute tickets. That's with the game time app. It's the biggest last minute price drops found anywhere across all the different

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few years. How are the vibes feeling like this will be the first like everything's back to normal Derby. Vibes are great. Full house expected. You know they limited the attendance last year to 50 thousand so no limits now. It's going to be just like the old fashioned Derby's elbow to elbow people half the people drunk. You know it's going to be just like it's always been. The only problem is the freaking weather right. I mean we see this all the time at the Derby. I don't know what goes on with Mother Nature in the Kentucky Derby but last week it was just gorgeous and lovable. Next week it's going to be gorgeous and lovable. Monsoon season hits on Friday and Saturday apparently. Wow. So we could we could have some pretty dicey weather. So how does that affect the races. Are

there any horses that you see that you're like that guy that guy likes to run in the mud. Typically what happens in a situation like that guys is you want the horses that are going to be up close to the lead. If the track is wet right if they're standing water it's called sloppy in thoroughbred racing. But you want the horses that are going to be going to be up front because they're kicking all the muddy crap back on the horses behind them right into their faces. And you know horses aren't the smartest animals in the world but they're smart enough to know that's not good. And a lot of them just check out when that happens. So watch for the front runners in that case. Yeah and I actually so a friend of mine sent me a stat today that I wanted to share

with you and I guess it makes sense intuitively because we've had some incredible derby winners the last you know decade or so. But the stat is the last eight years the the horse that has crossed the wire first. So obviously there's been some disqualifications has not had a trip that has dropped below third during their entire trip. So that should fit into what you just said as well with the mud that you need a horse that can get out in front right away and stay in front and not have to play from the back. There is a reason for that stat. There's a very good reason for it. Before 2013 Churchill Downs ranked the horses for the Kentucky Derby based on total lifetime money won. So what happened you all owners want to run in the Kentucky Derby. So what

happened was you would get these horses that would make all kinds of money as a two-year-old race horse in short races in sprint races really fast horses they couldn't go a mile and a quarter in the Kentucky Derby. But their owners wanted to run in the Kentucky Derby because they had enough money and so you get a bunch of these horses that would wind up in the Derby and the early pace would get out of control and so all the comfort behinders would benefit from that. Then in 2013 Churchill changed the protocol to get into the Derby and now it's based on success in major prep races long races as a three-year-old mostly. So you get all that cheap speed that no longer gets to run in the Kentucky Derby. The pace is much more manageable and therefore horses near

the front have done much better. I love it. That's a great explanation for that stat. It's interesting that you mentioned kind of like the unproven speed in this race because that's one of the big stories. I've actually been reading articles about the Kentucky Derby for the last like five days. I got an early jump start on my research this year and there's one horse that fascinates me because he's dominated all the races he's been in but he's only raced against like six horses. A lot of people are calling him like the Mickey Mouse horse. He's got Mickey Mouse titles and now we're going to see if it translates to the Kentucky Derby. He's one of Bob Baffert's old horses now I guess as a new trainer. Is it Taba or Taba? Taba. Taba. Yeah. So does Taba

right now I think he's 12 to one or something like that? Is that a horse that you think can actually translate to the big show? Well here's the situation with Taba. No horse in more than a century has won the Kentucky Derby with only two previous lifetime starts. I don't care about that stat. Times have changed in thoroughbred racing. Horses are running less and less often than they used to. So if you like Taba to win the Kentucky Derby, don't pay any attention to his inexperience. It certainly didn't hurt him in the San Anita Derby in his last start that he'd only had one lifetime start. I mean he won very, very impressively. What I don't like about Taba and why I'm not picking him is since the San Anita Derby I have not been a fan of the way he's looked in his

training. It looks to me like he may have gone a little downhill since the San Anita Derby and maybe too much too soon possibly. Fame got to his head. It's like Willie Beaman. And he had to work this morning, a final workout this morning that wasn't particularly impressive. So I'm going to try to beat him. Alright so along those same lines there are, the big story obviously is that Bob Baffert has been suspended and his horses were transferred to Tim Yachteen who is a former assistant of Bob Baffert. Do we get value on these horses knowing they're Bob Baffert horses, but they don't have the B squared next to them that everyone looks at when they, you know, everyone in the world bets the Kentucky Derby. They see Bob Baffert's name and they're like,

oh that guy's good. I know him and I'm going to bet him and then the price comes down. So do we have like a very unique situation where we get Bob Baffert horses at a discount because it's not Bob Baffert's name right next to him. You know it's a great point Big Cat and I haven't heard many people make that point and it's a valid point because the name Bob Baffert definitely affects the market for the horses, right? You get a lot more people betting because they are Baffert's horses and nobody, none of the casual fans are going to know who the heck Tim Yachteen is. So that probably will drive the price up on those horses. And the fact that Baffert is not here physically and has not been training the horses since the second week in April really doesn't

make any difference to these particular horses because Baffert trained the horses all the way up until that point. He developed them, he picked them out, helped pick them out as young horses and then developed them through their two-year-old year up until April. Once his suspension started, all they did, these two horses just moved a couple of gardens down at San Anita and changed stalls. They got the same groom, they got the same exercise riders, they got the same assistant trainer, they got the same workout regimen. Nothing really has changed for these horses except the name in the program and on the racing form says Tim Yachteen instead of Bob Baffert. This is like one of those situations where if you're betting on football and you're like,

hey, if you change the helmet of Notre Dame, you probably get a better line. It's a rare situation that no one, you can't predict the future so who knows if these horses are going to do well but you'll probably never get another situation where you have Bob Baffert training horses up until like a month and a half before the Derby and then his name isn't next to them when you look at the racing form on Saturday morning. It is unprecedented in thoroughbred racing and it's unprecedented in the Kentucky Derby to have this type of situation. Yeah. Okay, so I want to talk also, I love the stats of the Kentucky Derby because a lot of them, you know, who knows it's horse racing, but some of them have some merit to it.

So I wanted to quickly talk about the Japanese horse Crown Pride and it basically, you know, the stat goes if a horse is raced in the Middle East is their last race, just throw them out. They won't even be, they won't finish anywhere near the top, like don't even worry about it. But this year specifically, and maybe you can give us some insight on it, Japanese horses have been like dominating. So is this the year that we finally get a horse that's coming from overseas that can finish at the top, you know, maybe not even win, but you know, second or third on Saturday? Every day in the last two weeks, big cat, it is looking more and more possible. Whoa, I love it. When I came to Louisville,

or actually, I got into Lexington last Friday, I thought that Crown Pride, it was the Japanese horse, was a legitimate 30 or 40 to one shot is racing the UAE Derby was good, but it wasn't great. The competition that he beat was suspect. And you know, I had some serious question marks about it. He has been sensational here in church allowance. And this morning, he had a workout, his final workout, that every one of the competing trainers in the Kentucky Derby has been raving about everyone that Jerry Bailey went and I went to talk to this morning. We're like, holy crap, did you see that Japanese horse work this morning? I mean, the horse looks great. Whether he's good enough or not, we'll see. But he is definitely a horse to put into your

exotics. And even I would even play him on top. Okay. And in some of my bets, because he's good. He's not going to be 30 to one now, because the cat's out of the bag kind of. Yeah. But he'll probably be about 20 to one. And one more thing about the Japanese horse. Yeah, kind of alluded to. Yeah. Last fall in the breeder's cup, you know, Japanese horses had never won a breeder's cup race. And they had two horses in the breeder's cup that looked like they had zero chance on paper, right? And both of them won. That looked a lot worse than Crown Pride looks on paper. At the Saudi Cup in Saudi Arabia, tons of money at $20 million race, the Saudi Cup. Japanese horses won four of the stakes races on the undercard. They won five of the stakes races

on the Dubai World Cup undercard in March. Japanese horses are kicking ass worldwide, everywhere they're going. So I wouldn't be surprised at all to see other words run great. What's that for? Like, is there a specific reason or is it just, have they done anything different recently? Training, money, whatever it may be, because I'm just very curious about how like the year of Japan, like that's all you see when you're looking at the big races over the course of the year that Japan has arrived and they're kicking ass? It's been gradual, okay, for a pretty long period of time. You can trace it back to a horse that I know you're familiar with big cat, even though it was a long time ago.

A horse named Sunday Silence. Sunday Silence won the Kentucky Derby in 1989. He had a huge rivalry with the horse named Easy Goer. He won the Derby. He won the Preakness. Easy Goer beat him in the Belmont. Sunday Silence came back and won the Breeders Cup last. His owner had a big farm in Kentucky Stone Farm. Needed, financially needed to sell the horse to keep the farm, okay? Farms are very expensive to run. Sunday Silence was worth a lot of money and they needed to sell him, retire him to stud and sell him to the breeders. American breeders didn't seem to have much interest in Sunday Silence. His pedigree was average. He'd had a crooked leg, I think, as a young horse. They were all about Easy Goer, but they really didn't care that much about Sunday

Silence and the Japanese stepped in and outbid the Americans for Sunday Silence. Took the horse to Japan where Sunday Silence has been one of, if not the greatest stallion in the second half of the 20th century worldwide. That horse has completely revolutionized the breed in Japan and all those horses that I ticked off that won the Breeder's Cup and at Saudi, Dubai, every one of them traced back to Sunday Silence. I remember that Kentucky Derby. That's like my first sports memory is actually Sunday Silence beating Easy Goer at the Derby. That's incredible that it goes all the way back to that. I love it. That's the genesis of it. Now, horse racing in Japan is gigantic. I mean, you see shots of the Kentucky Derby. It's like that almost every weekend in Japan.

It's crazy. Japan and Hong Kong, the amount of people that come out to the racetrack and the amount of money that is bet, they do a great job training horses. It's a top-class operation in Japan and now they're just really, really clicking on also. When it comes to the crowds like that, do you think that the, is there any measurements that you can take to say like horses actually race faster when there's a loud crowd around? Like do the horses get energy off a big audience compared to the Derby a couple of years ago and there was nobody there? That was a question that often came up during the pandemic, Kentucky Derby, because some people would say they would ask me, you guys didn't, but other people would. So how are the horses going to react without the adrenaline of all

the people and all that? Horses hate crowds. Well, thoroughbred race horses are extremely high strung. They like peace and quiet and tranquility. They don't like loud noises. They don't like a lot of cheering, you know. So the question always in the Kentucky Derby with 150,000 people is always, you know, how are the horses going to handle all the noise? Some of them, you know, can flip out occasionally and can mess them up. There's a horse in the Derby this year called Cyberknife that is notoriously unpredictable around people and around, you know, he threw his rider in the post parade of the Arkansas Derby and everything. So no, horses do not like big crowds. So would that mean that they would run slower or would they run faster to get away from the crowds?

They would typically run slower because they would be nervous. They would be, you know, but some horses are laid back. Some thoroughbreds are very laid back doesn't bother them at all. Most of them are pretty high strung. Occasionally you get ones that are extremely high strung and those are the ones when they get all the loud noises they just, they fall apart mentally. Yeah. And so they just completely lose their race. So 20 horses in the field. Is 20 horses too many? That seems like a lot of horses. It's a lot of horses. It's more horses than you would see in any race in America any given year. No other race has 20 horses in America and people complain all the time about it, right? And it's a bogus complaint. Don't believe it when people say you need to,

you need to reduce the Kentucky Derby 20 horses too many. It's a cavalry charge. It's a crapshoot. It's all luck. That's BS. It is not all luck. If you go back historically and look at the Kentucky Derbies with 20 horses, okay? And you look at them in hindsight and you say, okay, this horse won the Kentucky Derby. Was it proven in later results and later racing that that was the best horse in the race? And it's like 75, 80% of the time. Yeah. The best horse wins the Kentucky Derby. What it takes to win the Kentucky Derby, the patience, the acceleration, the ability to hit the holes when you need to hit the holes, the overall talent to beat the best horses of your generation. The Derby is probably the

best lit, litmus test of greatness of any race in America. So if the 20 horses is part of that. So along the same lines of the 20 horses, I know the gate changed a few years ago and it became a uniform gate across. So let me ask you this. If it used to be like, hey, if you're in the, you know, the rail position to start or, you know, the first three, it's a bad spot. You don't want to be there. Has that gone away because of the gate change? And really specifically, I love the horse epicenter who's starting out of the three. And I mean, he's just a fast fucking horse. What like, does it matter that he's that he's near the rail now with the gate change? First of all, the new starting gate alleviates a lot of the problems that horses from the

number one post position would have having to move out a little bit after the start to avoid, you know, the inner rail. That's no longer the case. So that helps horsemen still don't like inside post positions in the Derby. They have an unrealistic phobia about inside post positions because they're afraid their horses will get trapped on the rail. For some reason, when it comes to Kentucky Derby, horsemen forget physics. They forget geometry, really. They forget that it's the shortest way around the track running next to the rail. And that's a huge advantage in a race like the Kentucky Derby with so many horses often epicenter is the perfect horse to take advantage of an inside post position because he has tactical speed. He's not going to be in

the middle of the pack with a ton of horses to his outside and have to worry about getting out, getting off the rail when it's time to go. He's going to be up either in front or near the front early where there's not any traffic and you'll be racing on the rail and saving ground. And it's, I think it's a great post position for episode. Okay. That's probably why that's why I'm picking him. Yeah. Oh, okay. There you go. There's the pick. I love it. We should also, we should mention obviously the favorite Zandon Chad Brown on Zandon. I watched that race that he had. What was it like a few weeks ago? It was incredible through traffic. Great finish. The Kentucky Derby recently has been the favorite has won. Do you see any value if he goes off at three to one, two to one

value? No. His prep race in the blue grass, I thought was the most visually impressive of any of the prep races, right? In my eyes, it's either going to be epicenter or Zandon, unless the Japanese horse completely freaks and does what Japanese horses have been doing lately. I got to focus on those two horses. The difference to me, they're very similar on paper, is that epicenter is going to be up near the front and Zandon is going to have to rally from farther back in the pack and potentially have to deal with traffic issues that epicenter won't have to deal with. But Zandon is a very good horse as well. And either one of those horses could be deserving Kentucky Derby winners. And the irony here is that epicenter is trained

by Steve Asmussen. No trainer in the history of North America has won as many races as Steve Asmussen. And he's never won the Kentucky Derby. And Zandon is trained by Chad Brown, who has been the champion trainer in America. He's a fantastic trainer. He mainly deals in grass horses. He's never won the Kentucky Derby. So it's kind of an interesting subplot. That is interesting. So his name is what? You said Asmussen? Asmussen. Asmussen. ASSM, USSE and Steve Asmussen. This is his legacy race. Like imagine if he were to get a Kentucky Derby, finally that's like the last check mark in an otherwise great career. I bet he probably

hates Bob Bafford, huh? No, he's actually very, very close friends with Bob Bafford. Yeah, we've had many conversations about Bob Bafford. Yeah. Is there any unusual tradition for the owner of a winning horse after the Kentucky Derby? You know how in golf, if you get a home one, get to buy the clubhouse drinks, is there any unusual thing behind the scenes that the owners do, kind of like as a tradition that's been passed down through the years? Yeah, go out and get wasted the night of the Derby. I love it. Rich guys, they're just like us. Yeah, yeah.

There you go. Yeah. Okay, so I had one last question. You always give us an Oaks pick for Friday. You got to tune in, like if you're someone who's just getting into horse racing and you love the Derby, you should also love the Oaks on Friday. It's awesome. There's some great, great horses. You get two full days. I think it's 28 races total over the two days. So give us a pick, any race on Friday that you got a, I think you've basically hit this every single year, no pressure. But well, who's your favorite race and horse on Friday? This is the best Kentucky Oaks. You know, I've been a, I've been a, what, the Kentucky Derby

every year since 1980. I missed the pandemic here. I missed one other year. This is my 41st Kentucky Derby. So it's my 41st Kentucky Oaks. This is one of the best Kentucky Oaks that I've seen since I started coming here. But I love Nest. Nest is the program favorite, which surprised me. I expected Echo Zulu to be the program favorite. And Echo Zulu is a good Philly. She's undefeated. She's a two year old Philly champion. I think Nest is an absolute standout to win the Kentucky Oaks. And on Saturday, I'll give you a couple horses to bet on. Yes. There's, there's a race called the Churchill Downs Distaffed Turf Mile. I think it's the fifth race on Saturday. There's a horse in there, the Jerry Bailey, and I've been texting each other about for a couple

of months. You know, last time she ran, I texted Jerry and said, here's a horse we can bet on Derby weekend. Her name is Waka Naka, W-A-K-A-N-A-K-A, Waka Naka. And then in the race right before the Derby, they call it the Turf Classic. It's on grass. There's a horse that Chad Brown has in there called Adhammo, A-D-H-A-M-O. And I like him hooked up in exact as with a horse called Ivar, IVAR, who ran in the Breederscup Mile last year and finished third and probably should have won. He's got a great post position, first start of the year, but he's training really well and back and forth in exact as I like those two. I love it. Let's win some money. Any other questions? Let's do it. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm good. Yeah. Let's do it. So we just to reiterate, Waka Naka

and the great name in the Turf Mile. And then we've got in the Turf Mile, correct. Just after mile and then in the Turf Classic, you've got Ivar and Adhammo. Adhammo and Nest in the Kentucky. Okay. Everybody, when those win, make sure to tweet at Randy Moss. Yes. Thank you, Randy. Either Randy Moss with a football player. Either one. Yeah, either one. Doesn't matter. Tag both of them just to be sure that you get the right one. We are interchangeable. It doesn't matter at all. It's the best. We love having you on. I mean, it's so funny. The long time AWLs, we've grown, you know, a ton in the last six years, but it's so funny because the long time AWLs remember the first time we had you on and everyone's like, Oh, they got Randy Moss, the

wide receiver is like, Nope, we got Randy Moss is going to win you money. And you're, you're one of our favorite guests and we'll talk to you before the preakness too. All right. Let's do it, guys. Apologies for not wearing my recurring guest T-shirt. I'll try to correct that when we get to family car. All right. I think you're the only person that has that shirt. So you're the only one. Yes. Yes. Appreciate it. And we'll see you on TV on Friday and Saturday. All right. Take care. Randy Moss was brought to you by our great friends who are simply safe. Simply safe is a home security system that protects my home from break ins, but they also have water sensors, temperature sensors, and smoke detectors. It's very important. Smoke detectors to protect your

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coming up the canal fight coming up May 7th. You're here because there's also a big fight in Madison Square Garden on Saturday night. We're going to actually sound stupid because it's in the past, but we're excited for you to be here. Let's start with the fight on May 7th. You're promoter. This is like having a comedian come in and be like, tell us a joke. Promote this fight. Well, I mean, firstly, you have, we talked about goats off air. You have the current goat, which is Canelo Alvarez, pound for pound number one, the biggest star in the sport, the undisputed super middleweight world champion. This guy, he just fluctuates up weight classes and just basically wants to fight all champions. Well, May 7th he fights the light heavyweight world champion,

Dmitry Bival, young, fresh, undefeated, huge puncher, great feet and a really, really dangerous fight. And this guy, Canelo Alvarez is incredible because he literally doesn't care who he fights. Yeah. And he's got like a strict rule, champions only. You know, he just wants to take belts for the collection. And, you know, he's the guy who's come up from well to weight. He's now fighting light heavyweight world champions. He's massively undersized against these guys, but he's also one ruthless motherfucker. Yeah. Like just, I've never been around anyone with so much confidence, so much belief. He's incredible. And Canelo has definitely reached that point where a boxer gets to a certain point where his pay-per-views become just like

must buys because, you know, there's going to be a show, you know, it's going to be a great fight night. And there's nothing quite like a fight night. Now, as a promoter, are you rooting for either side? Do you just root for a great fight? Well, you know, I represent both guys. Right. So is there. But at the same time, people do take the mickey out of me, inbox him because of my affection towards Canelo Alvarez. Right. One, because he's the biggest star in the sport. Two, because he's a great guy. Three, because he's a great. Right. And there's nothing like being around a great. And when you're around Canelo Alvarez, you feel like a great because he's infectious.

You know, you watch him, you watch his confidence, the way he fights, the way he lives his life. He's a winner, you know. But a rematch, if he lost and then a trilogy, you got to be thinking that is a promoter, right? I know this sounds really sort of, you know, on the fence, but it's literally when you have two guys who fight each other, it's made a best man win. For Dimitri Bival, he gets the opportunity to become a great himself. He gets the biggest payday of his career. Good luck to you, son. Yeah. And for Canelo Alvarez, this is the fight he wanted. You know, he said, get me a champion, get me a light heavyweight world champion. I said, I got Dimitri Bival.

He's undefeated. He punches very hard. He's got great feet. He may be the best in a division and Canelo went perfect. It's not something we see in boxing today. And like you said, a sink at a mile weekend in Las Vegas promoting Canelo Alvarez doesn't get any bigger. Yeah. Are there certain fighters that are easy to work with? Like you'll pick up the phone, give them a call and you know that they'll say, yes, I'll do it. And then certain guys that you have to like massage into it or kind of like work your way around with concessions, things like that. Eddie Reynoso is Canelo's trainer and manager. And they're like, they're inseparable. You know, they have been for his whole career, but they're fearless. Right. And when you work with those

kind of fighters, they don't, they're not looking for the easy touch. They're not worried about the easier fight. They're just like, yeah, him, fine. He'll do. You know, and once they give me that instruction, when you're dealing with a great like Canelo Alvarez, like a pound for pound great, he should be difficult to work with. Like that's just the way sports works, right? The bigger the star, the bigger the problem. But this guy is so easy to work with. And what we've got him doing is speaking more English because he never really believed that his English was good enough. Now he's speaking in English in interviews, he's grown his profile to a bigger audience. And he's hilarious. Yeah, I feel like large here at Barstel is that a pretty good job of getting

Canelo out of the shell a little bit because we I think we had Canelo on what like three years ago. And he was just starting to like, you know, feel comfortable expressing himself and being so. But like you get him in a room with large and it's like, oh, this is my buddy. This is my like safe space that I can open up to. But Canelo, we call him Canelo. Sal is, he's one of, like he's one of the lads, you know, like so if you relax him, he's amazing to be around. He's hilarious. Listen, I've been to his house in Guadalajara out of camp. And it was a lively night. There was a lot of tequila drunk. He's, he's great company. But he's also any star is just a little bit, you know, standoffish. But like you say, large does a good job. You got to go in there

and you got to be, you got to be relaxed around him. You got to be yourself. Right. You have. And that's why, you know, when large does turn up, he actually goes, all right, I'll do it. Yeah, he's a relaxed guy. Right, right. He's been seeing the progression of him over the last few years. Once people get to know him, you know, he just gets bigger and bigger. So the promotion game, I love it. I'm fascinated by it. I've always loved it. I'm, you know, I grew up a wrestling fan, boxing fan. We have a, our own fight league. I don't know if you're aware of it. It's, it's whatever your level you're at, we're, you know, minus a million. It's called rough and rowdy. It's like a tough man. Yeah. Contest. So we promote fights.

And I, it's a thrill to promote a fight. Is there ever in promotion, has there ever been a moment where you had to tell the guys like, Hey, chill out. You cross the line. Or is it truly like, do whatever you want. Cause like everything sells here. This is, that's why I love boxing promotion. Peep, anyone, any storyline gets more eyeballs. You always want a promotion that, where there's beef. So I can't lie. If two guys come together at the, the way, and I'm always in the middle. And it's only when, you're a meme. Yeah. But it's only, I am, but it's only when we get to a bigger weight class that I have a big problem. Because if it's like the featherweight division or the light weights, I can like, you know, I'm six foot

five and 220 pounds. I'm not that tough, but I can at least get in the middle. Right. With the big boys, like if I could take one punch, if I just take a punch that wasn't even meant for me, I'm getting knocked clean out, you know? And when we did Dillion White against Derek Chisora, it's very famous. Chisora picked up a table, you know, and threw it actually at me, but it was at Dillion White, but it hit me. And, but it was massive. Right. You know, so at the same time, it doesn't really, you'd probably take that every time. Oh, yeah. I don't listen. I don't mind the table around the head if it makes a couple of million bites, you know, on paper views. So that's what I love about the fight. People love that. Yeah. But I always think as well, like there are some

people that say like, you know, at the head to head, put your, you know, to do this and do that. I don't like that. Do you ever push them? I do that in a rough and run. Yeah. If they get head to head, I kind of give one of them a little nudge. Sometimes before a press conference, I go, look, you know, obviously you two, I'm going to ask you both questions. And I looked at one of them and just say, just to let you know, he did say that, you know, he was talking about your mum. But I actually did, I did Logan, I did Logan pour against KSI. Right. That fight, the Staple Center. And the banter was so bad. Like I'll never do another one because I'm both, I like, I really love both guys. They're so smart, these guys. But I tell you what, I did the press conference

and I stood up and I was like, you know, guys, massive fight at Staple Center. Well, you know, your mum's down there. And I was like, Oh my God, where are we going with this? So that fight specifically, you got some blowback because it's not traditional boxing. And, you know, we did something with Jake Paul and Cleveland last summer. And there's a lot of people who are like, this is a sideshow. This isn't real. From my perspective, I'm like, anything that gets more eyes towards a boxing like combat sport is good. But what did you like, how did you feel when you had that blowback? I mean, I saw the numbers. Yeah, you know, we were doing press conferences. I think it was like over a million watching live, the press conference, you know, I could do the

World Heavyweight title, we won't get half of that, you know, so as a boxing enthusiast, it's hard to watch sometimes. Jake's a little bit different because he's at least boxing now. He thinks he can be a world champion, never in a million years. But there are actually some boxers that are worse than Jake Paul. And it's put in the time and he's put in the effort. In fury. Yeah, I mean, it could be a 55. But Logan against KSI was two YouTubers. Yeah. So I promoted a YouTube fight in that respect. I will never do it again. It wasn't a bad experience. I made a lot of money. But my heart weren't in it. Yeah. And but with Jake, Jake can fight a little bit. And at least he's getting to the stage now where he's going in with

either fighters or combat guys. And I'll give Jake respect. And listen, he's just co-promoted the fight with me with Taylor Serrano. And he's been a great partner. So you're right. Anything that brings additional eyes to the sport, I just feel that when you bring those eyes to the sport, you need to give them the beauty of the sport and the reality of the sport, not two guys, kind of like, you know, scrapping away. When it comes to you promoting a fight where both the fighters are essentially you're working for both of them, you're representing both of them. Is there like a trust issue that comes with that? Always an argument. And you know, the worst thing is you sit front and center, you can't show any emotion either way. Because I've been involved

with fights before, you know, and someone's knocked someone out and I represent both guys. And I've got just stood up and clapped. It's like next day you get a text going, I see you stand up and clapped when I got knocked out. It's like, no, I just, you know, so I hate it. Because I'm the guy, I love to scream and shout and jump in a ring and celebrate. And you can't really do that when you got two guys, it's difficult. So generally, when you have two guys, you represent two guys, both guys in the fight, you fall out with one of them. Yeah, generally the one that loses. Yeah, that makes sense. You ever fall out with with other promoters? Like, is there any time? What promoter would you want to step in the ring with? They're all old. You know,

I can't, you know, I mean, I can't fight, but they're all like, you know, that problem standing up after a round. Yeah, you had a beef with Bob Aram, right? Bob Aram is 90. Yeah, you can beat him up, right? I would hope so. That'll go right down really well. Yeah, I'll give you 90 year old guy, I'll back you up. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people are saying you're afraid to fight Bob Aram. I was saying that you're not. But really, yeah, apparently he said something else. Someone he said something about, you know, no, he's, he, I think I just thought about your grandmother. Bob Aram, Bob Aram said that Eddie Hearn, you know, was, was born on third and thought he hit a triple. That's what he said. He said he's, he's a daddy's boy. And that's the only thing that made

him. That's true. No, but seriously, so your, your history, I was, I was, that probably hit too close home, but I'm trying to make a fight. I'm trying to knock you out in a minute. I'm gonna try to make a fight. No, you, I was listening to an interview though, and it was. Yeah, I've got a rich dad. Yeah, go on. No, but it was very interesting. I'm trying, I mean, I just made the fight right there between us probably. But you said something interesting about, you know, your dad and being in his footsteps and him instilling in you like the work ethic that you have and that it wasn't, you know, even though you did grow up with some means because your dad, you know, has been very successful, that he was able to, to keep you, you know, grounded in

humble. How did he do that? Because that's very hard to do. His first generation. Right. So like my dad came from nothing, made a lot of money. I was born. He, you know, as you would with any, with your child, you want to give them a great life. But growing up, the, the person that my dad hated the most was the sport rich kid. So he always made sure I was never a sport rich kid. You know, winning was everything. You get given nothing without hard work. And, you know, I have a working class mentality. He takes the piss out of me and calls me a silver spoon kid. And I'll tell him that I turned it gold. And the only way I could make a name in my own right was to outperform him. So he did really well. I've taken the business to, to whole and other levels. And, you

know, he's, I'd love to give a sob story about, you know, I'd like, I'm a bit jealous of him because he come from nothing and made it from nothing. Whereas I could never do that. But at the same time, you know, I lived a great life. But you told the story that, you know, growing up, everyone was like, Oh, there's Barry's kid. And you thought it was great when you were a kid. And then eventually you hit a point where like, wait, I want to be, I want to be Eddie. It was there a like a point. When I was 12, 13, walking around MGM Grand in Madison Square Garden at FIATS, I would tell the world that I was Barry Herndson because it used to get me wherever I needed to be. But I guess you don't realize subconsciously that, you know, you get a bit of

a chip on your shoulder that no one actually knows your name, that you're just Barry's son. So I don't know. We've, sport has been everything to us. Like we, I grew up with all the fundamentals of sport. And I think young people today actually, I worry that they're not playing enough sport because sport teaches you everything, winning, losing, discipline, respect, manners, everything. And with us, but he was the dad where you could take 10 penalties and you might have missed nine. But every other dad jumps over the last one to let you score. He's the one that tips it around the corner and celebrates after, you know? So, and I'm like that with my kids and sport, business to us is sport. So we're always competing whether that's against each other or whatever.

So it's been a big part of my life sport because it gives you the winning mentality. And, you know, when we were young, he always said that when I got to 18, he would take me in the ring and we'd fight because he wanted to sort of show me that I was just a rich kid. And, you know, he'll show me what it's like to be a real man. But I got to 16 and I was like six foot one. So we brought it forward two years. And he came out in the first round. But it's hard to tell this story because people don't really understand my background. And I just remember covering up and I just saw his face, you know, and he was winging him in around the side of my head. And I three rounds in and I dropped him to the body and he didn't get up. And he was so proud. Like normally you wouldn't

tell anyone, would you? He told everyone, see my son? Oh, he knocked me out to the body, soaked it up. And like that was, you know, that was like his stamp of approval to go, my boy's all right. You know, that's gotta be weird as a kid. Like what were your emotions like? You knock your dad out? Are you proud in the moment? Are you initially like, Oh my God, I fucked up. I'm gonna get my ass kicked. No, no, I wanted him to get up so I could give him more. That was that was us. You know, the important question is, you have kids now, will you be doing the same? I have two daughters. Okay, so they'll kick your ass. But listen, they were, you know, I just, the same problem I, you know, we're talking about first generational success, which I was, like their second is even

harder with them. And I want to spoil them. I work as hard as I can every day. And I want to try and give them everything that they want. But at the same time, there's a couple of key fundamentals that every parent should try and install in their kids, which is discipline, manners, respect, understanding the value of money, you know, being kind, you know, all these things and having a passion for something. Because I see so many of these kids today and they just mope around with no passion. And that's when it comes back to sport. So I'm like, you know, play netball, play hockey, play cricket, just trying to push them into all sports. But as we know, every kid now is looking at the phone, the tiktok in the, I mean, it's like drives me absolutely berserk. But

I can't give them a normal life if you like. But what I can is make sure they're real people. Yeah. Yeah. Most important. Do you ever like subconsciously find yourself setting up fights between them? No, I do do that with other kids. Actually, my daughter, my daughter, my sister has twins who are five. And just every now and again, I'll just go just just like when there's no one around to look around and go, guys, just out of interest, who would win in a fight between Well, you're a little bit taller than the other one, aren't you? You're not as tough as your brother, are you? The next thing they're rolling around, I'm like, go on, go on. And then my sister will come in and go, what's going on there? So I don't know. So are you constantly whenever you

walk somewhere like sizing people up? Like, all right, that would be a good one right there. That's a good match up. What do you think about this guy right here? He's a big lump. Yeah. I saw you on the Canelo Alvarez tape. You were taking some, no, Bivol was hitting you to the body, right? Yeah, Bivol was fucking him up. What did you think? Did you rate that power? I got punched by some heavyweights in my day and now it's just his jab. What heavyweights in your day, plural? He fought Jose Canseco. And also, when is your day? You're 23 years old. He fought Jose Canseco. And Jose Canseco took a dive, maybe. He did not take a dive. He might have. He quit. Yeah. But Bivol, Bivol's a good fighter. I mean, it's going to be a great

fight. You know, you were around him. Nice guy. The way he moved and his size and power was insane. I think Bivol's going to shock the world. Whoa. That's my take. Whoa. A lot of people do. Wow. Okay. So is that after feeding his power? Yeah. Because I reckon if Canelo Alvarez, here's you, you know, you saying that you felt Bivol's power and you think he's going to win, I think he'll be very concerned. No, not at all. So the fight promoting game, when you are coming up, I mean, I would imagine it's one of the only professions where like, it feels like if you're cutting corners or getting one over on your competition, it's like applauded. Were you always looking over your back like, all right, this guy's trying to fuck me.

This guy's trying to fuck me in terms of other promotion. Yeah. Other promoters. It's the worst business in the world. Yeah. The worst business because everyone wants you to fail. Yeah. You know, and like, when you start out, you know, I sort of, I've always had a passion for boxing, but probably 12 years ago, I started going at it hard, taking over the UK. Then we come, when I came to America, oh my God. But I just thought, because in the UK, brash loud and I thought to myself, you need to come into the US and basically tell everyone you're going to end them. Right. So I turned up at the press conferences, we're going to take over boxing, all these other pro and basically it was a bad move because they all just got together and went,

right, fuck Eddie, let's just freeze him out. Wow. And it took me, you know, a couple of years really to actually find our feet and obviously the growth of the zone as well. When I came in, you know, I'm sitting down with fighters and I'm like, you know, we're with the zone and it's this new app and these fighters are going, what's going on? You know, we're with ESPN, we're with HBO and obviously once the brand of the zone and people saw how serious they were and obviously saw how serious we were and we started breaking down the barriers with Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin, it took us two or three years to gain the position we're in now. I mean, we're the only global promotional company in the world. Everybody else just promotes in their own markets and right

now we're in a straight race in America with PBC and Al Heyman and Bob Aram and Top Rank and ESPN. So what a great place to be and just some mouthy kid from the UK who's come over to take on the world and that's the attitude we got. You were talking about when you first started out in the UK, when you first like went fully into it and admittedly, I don't know much about boxing. I don't know that much about boxing in the UK especially, but I did read a little bit about you before you came in and there was a lot of talk about the Harrison Faye fight. Harrison Faye, yeah. So I used to do all the major poker TV shows, so I'll produce them. So I created all of the sort of major TV programming for poker and I was playing in Vegas in the

World Series and there was a guy called Alderley Harrison. Now this guy won Olympic gold for Great Britain, heavyweight and great personality. Everyone knew who Alderley Harrison was but everyone thought he was useless. But I sat down with him at the poker table and he went, look, you know, his career was over really and he said, you know, could you bring me back? I wasn't even promoting at the time, I was doing poker. I was like, yeah, I'll bring you back. Of course I'll bring you back. You know, we'll go out, we'll win a few fights, we'll come back, I'll put you in for the European title and then we'll fight David Hayford, a world title and before you know it, you could be a world heavyweight champion. And he was like, yeah.

And then I went outside and went, oh, shit. And then he phoned me and he went, let's do it. And I was like, oh no. So he went out, won a few fights, put him in for the European title. He got beat every round, right? He didn't throw a punch, right? No, this is for the European title. Okay. There was one minute to go. He knocked the guy clean out in the 12th round. In fact, I remember so clearly, five seconds before the knockout, my dad turned to me and said, I know you're disappointed, son, but when you, after the bell goes, just get in and commiserate Alderley Harrison and take it as a man, I went, fuck that, I ain't getting in the ring. I said, I can't believe it. Anyway, he knocked the guy out. I couldn't get in the ring quick enough.

I was hugging him. You're the greatest of all time. Next thing I've made the David Hayford fight for the world heavyweight championship in Manchester. I've sold this fight like you wouldn't believe. Sold out Manchester arena, pay-per-view bikes, all my friends have bought ring-tied tickets. I told them Alderley Harrison was going to shock the world, become the new world heavyweight champion. He didn't throw a punch for three rounds. He just stood there and then he got knocked clean out. It's crazy. Everyone said to me, you're a joke, and I went, I'm done in boxing. I said, that was great fun. Next day, every fighter's calling me. Wow. I saw what you done with Alderley Harrison. You got to sign me. It just went crazy from there.

What was that like after that fight though? Because you would put your nuts on the line. And this was like, this was your name. And you have a guy that literally does not try at all in the ring. That's got to be a pretty low feeling for this person. Like before that fight, he's a great salesman, Alderley Harrison. You believe everything he said. We stood in that changing room. Everyone got in a huddle. You know, he said, you know, the Lord Alderley Harrison said, they told me I would never get an education. And I came through and I got a master's degree. They told me as I would never be an amateur boxer. And I went and won Olympic gold. And tonight, I will become world heavyweight champion. I mean,

I was in tears. I was like so convinced he was going to win. Come out, didn't throw a punch, sat in the changing room after and I said, Alderley, what was that? What happened? And he went, I fought the ref jumped in a bit too early. I was like, oh my God. So I was done. And next day, I remember going to a sandwich shop by my office, right? You know, when it's like really loud in there and then you open the door and it's just like, yeah, you know, and everyone just looked at me and went prick. And I was just, I just seriously, I just thought, I'm done in boxing. I never even wanted, I saw the shit that my dad went through in boxing. And I just thought, no. And then everyone started calling me because all the promoters rolled. I mean, back then I was 30. And I was just a

young kid just talking a lot and people just looked at him and went, you know what, it's different. And we signed everybody in the UK and I got the exclusive deal with a biggest broadcaster within like six months. And we just took over UK boxing. And obviously America was the next challenge and signing Canelo Alvarez was just massive for our business. It's got to be, I mean, again, we're on a very, very, very small scale with our rough and rowdy. But when there's, when a card doesn't pan out, it's the worst feeling in the world because you know, people are paying good hard money to watch this and they want to be entertained. My dad said it best. He said, you know, social media is so good and bad in terms of promoting

because back in his day, you would just put posters up under train stations. Whereas I've got the ability to hit a couple of million people in their hand with information about a fight. He said, but the downside of social media is you can finish a show, you know, and go, yeah, that was all right. I'll go for something to eat. Now you have to read the criticism. And you can say I don't read it and I try not to, but of course you do. And you want to put on a great show. People are paid money. People are tuned in. And there's no better feeling when you put on a great show. And people go, what a night because we're there to give people a great night. I want people to leave T-Mobile Arena. I want people to turn off the zone or listen to your

commentary and go, that was a great night. That put a smile on my face. And that's my job as a promoter. So it hurts when it doesn't, you know, you guys can, even at your level, it doesn't matter. You can do a show and go, what a night this is going to be. Look at this fight. Look at a card. And it doesn't play out. And everyone goes, that was shit. And you go, oh, and you're deflated. Yeah, because I heard you doing another interview where you basically were saying, and it struck me because we're obviously diehard sports fans. And those moments, that's what like, that's what we live for. The moments where you walk out of an arena and you're like, I saw something I never thought I'd see before. Well, even when we did Anthony Joshua against Andy Ruiz at Madison Square

Garden, it was my first show at MSG. It was the World Heavyweight Championship. AJ was a massive favorite. You know, he got dropped five times and stopped, I think in the sixth round. I felt like my world was about to end. They're still talking about it today in New York. That was one of the greatest nights ever. The biggest upset in heavyweight history. I'm like, actually, yeah, we did that. I mean, didn't work out how we wanted it to. But when you've got a great fighter like Canelo Alvarez, it does take the heat off because you know, like, you know, we talked about Bivo, I know this fight is going to be special. It can't be anything but it's not going to be a one-sided fight. It's not going to be an easy fight. It's going to be a thrilling fight. And it could just be

one for the ages. And if it is fantastic, because you're a small part of that. Yeah, yeah. What's the best fight that you've ever promoted? I mean, probably Anthony Joshua against Vladimir Klitschko at Wembley. You know, he's Anthony Joshua is the Olympic gold medalist, superstar in the UK, around the world, world heavyweight champion. Vladimir Klitschko was the longest reigning world heavyweight champion. AJ dropped him, dropped Klitschko in the fifth round. He got dropped in the sixth round. He was out on his feet. He come back to knock Klitschko out in the 11th round. That was in front of 90,000 people at Wembley. And it was, you know, it was just epic. And it's only when you look back on

the pictures and you go, I don't even remember being there, let alone, you know, seeing those sites. And you're so engrossed in the fight. You're sitting there next to the ring. And, you know, there's nothing like it. We work across like 12 different sports, boxing so unique. You know, even MMA, UFC, I was at the one in London. There's something about, you know, combat sports, the brutality of it, the excitement of it. It's not for everyone, but it's for me. Yeah, our guy Patty, you saw our guy Patty the Batty. That's our guy. I was there for the first one. And Molly the Meatball. We signed her too. Yeah, well, she was doing the Taylor Serrano stuff. So two great characters, two great characters. That's what you need. You need characters in

sport. And, you know, I enjoyed it because I started to understand mixed martial arts. Tyson Fury, do you think he's actually retired? No. Yeah, because every boxer, like no boxer has ever retired. Tyson Fury beat Dillian White the other day. He FaceTimed me half a dozen times the next day, asking for Anthony Joshua's number, you know, so he ain't retiring for nothing. I mean, look, he just wants to make as much money. Tyson Fury, by Udaway, is a great fighter and actually a great personality. Don't believe a word he says. I was watching his interview the other day. He's like, you know, I don't care about money. I drive a Volkswagen Passat or something like that.

He's got about four Rolls Royces. I mean, I have got a couple of Rolls Royces, but I'm not bothered about them. No, not at all. You know, you just have selfies in front of him all the time, you know. But he's a great character, great fighter. I think he will always be there. But he may go to WWE and do a bit. He may, Francis and Ghanu, you know, talk about a UFC crossover fight. So I just hope he has those big fights against AJ Nusik because he's in his prime. Right. And he could be a generational great, you know, and he's very good, but maybe he won't be. And it is like very unique to boxing that retirement for boxers is used as a ploy. And I feel like boxers retire all the time. Then they're like, oh, he just says what he wants at that specific moment.

So and then he has to roll with it for a few weeks. And then obviously as the fight wins, it goes, so is that your last fight? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Binking. No. But, you know, have you ever considered doing that and using that ploy like you retire? Yeah, I did say the other day that I would retire at 50 from boxing, never from sport. And I probably will. Really? I just see like Bob Aram. Yeah, for example, who you're going to kick his ass. What September 12th, Madison Square Garden. September 12th is a Monday. Okay. I would have to do it on the 10th. Okay. We need the big gate. Yes, I love it. So but the thing is, I look at Bob Aram in interviews, like frothing, you know, I look at his blood pressure through

the roof. He normally talking about me and that her and he don't know shit about boxing. You know, it's like, I'm looking at him going, what are you doing? What are you doing? I mean, one, how you're even alive? I don't know. But two, at your age, like at least like be on a beach, like have a cocktail and a cigar. You know, I mean, I admired a passion and I admired that, you know, the durability that the man has. But at what point do you look at your life and go, don't need that shit anymore? Yeah, I guess in the promotion game, you have to be competitive. And that's not something that I think turns off the second you turn 50 years old. No, but in all business, you have to be competitive. But boxing is very different.

You know, I could, I could do our other sports till I'm 120 if I lasted that long. Boxing is different. Boxing sleeping with one eye open. Right. And it comes and it's fun. I still love it. But I can't, I think to myself, you can't, you can't go, it's about a day, not on your phone. You can't go five minutes not on your phone. Because if you don't get that call, if you don't take that opportunity, one, you've missed the opportunity or you're about to get fucked. Right. So you have to, if you're going to be in boxing, if you want to be the best, you have to live and breathe it for every second of the day. And that's a lifestyle that not many can can live. What's the most ridiculous request that you've ever received from a fighter or from

their camp? Blimey, I mean, just generally like the arguments come. Sometimes you'll make a deal for a fight and it will fall through down to like the most ridiculous arguments and a very common one is I want first choice of change rooms. And it's like, well, and then you go to your guy and you go just to let you know, like we've done the deal, but he wants first choice of changing rooms. Fuck off. He ain't even first choice of changing rooms. There's no fight. No, no, no, no. What are you talking about? You're about to make 20 million shut up and use whatever changing rooms available. No. I know, I know that venue. And there's a specific change. I've worked on this fight for three months, you know, so different things, the way they travel to get there, the gloves that

they want to use, drug testing for the fight specifics of it. You know, it's just it's never ending. It's very difficult. That's why to be fair to Jake Paul, he's not been tarnished with the sort of bitterness brush of boxing. So when we did our fight Taylor Serrano, people keep saying to me, do you like Jake Paul? I haven't really thought about it to be honest with you, but he's great for the fight. And we just we just got together and said, let's make this fight as big as can be. And we're all working in the same direction. But in boxing, it's like, I don't like him. I'm not helping him. Oh, you know, I hope he fuck I hope he fails. I'm in the end, he's so draining. Yeah, it was actually when you work with Jake, although he's a little bit out there, like,

he's quite refreshing, right, because he's like, let's make this fight as big as possible. Yeah. Right. It's just common sense. He's a promoter as well. Yeah. Yeah. But he's also like him, Logan, they're geniuses. Yeah, content creators, they're smart kids. They're not just, you know, pricks who have got big mouths. They're very smart individuals that they know how to interact with their followers and their fan base and their platform and they've built platforms that enable them to do whatever they like. You know, a lot of people in boxing are bitter about the fact that Jake Paul can walk into boxing. You know, you hear fighters go, I've been grinding in the gym for 25 years and I can't make I said, because you haven't built the platform that he

has. Right. He's built that platform, that opportunity, he can do whatever he wants. Right. And Logan, Logan's super smart. Like Jake's smart, but Logan, he's on another level. You know, very smart guy. Yeah. So if it was just about boxing, where would Jake be ranked? You said that he's better than some professional boxing. No, he's better than like some that you'd give to a young prospect in their first and second. To male cans. Yeah. But I don't want to disrespect him like that because he may be a little bit better than I give him credit for and that will show in time. But you know, boxing, boxing, you've got to be tough. I don't know how tough he is. It's hard to do road work and silk pajamas. That's a Marvin Hagler line and that's

a great line. Yeah. And it and again, sorry to keep, you know, sort of praising Canelo Alvarez, but when you have more money than you ever dreamed of, when you have more belts than you ever fantasized about as a kid, how do you want it more than ever? Right? In a sport as brutal as boxing. And that is why Canelo Alvarez is a pure winner. Because when he was growing up in Guadalajara and he was selling ice pops on the road, he dreamed of having all the things that he's got now. But now he's got it. He wants it more than ever. And I love that. Yeah. And it really is the best part about boxing because that's the the rise and the fall of a lot of fighters where you get to see that story arc where they get to the top and then, you know, it's Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson

and like these things where guys get everything and it's hard to be as hungry as a guy on the rise. But when the punches are raining down on you and you're in the clinch, right? When you have nothing and you know that if you get through this moment, you could change your life forever. When you've changed your life forever already and you're back in that same clinch and you're fighting someone that wants to change their life forever. But you have still got the competitive edge and the stubbornness to bite down on your gum shield and say, no, not tonight. That makes you a true great, especially in a sport like boxing. So for Canelo Alvarez, you know, he still has that in him. And that is a unique fighter. That is a winner. Because so many great fighters get to that level and they're not

the same person. And I don't blame them at all. Nazim Hamid, you know, a great fighter from the UK years ago. Great example. One of the most gifted fighters of all time, made a load of money, ended up fighting Marco Antonio Barreira, went to training camp in La Quinta. He was laughing. He was looking up at the mountains, laughing at the Big Bear Mountains, going, Barreira's up in the mountains, what, look, and he was in the pool, you know, and then come on fight night, he got destroyed. I mean, that's the Rocky storyline right there. But boxing is so unique. And it's hard to explain if you're not in it. But how can you be that same individual that you were when you had nothing in a sport like that? And that's very, you know, that's why Canelo is a hero to

so many people, still the same individual, still the same kid from the streets of Guadalajara. Yeah, I think I feel some people have to keep inventing reasons to get mad in order to spark themselves to keep training. And some people just absolutely love the sport. It sounds like Canelo falls into that category. But you have to love whatever you do for longevity and consistency. Because otherwise you get lazy. Like complacency is the biggest, you know, problem in business, in sport and everything. Once you become complacent, once you lose that drive, you're not the same individual. But that should happen in boxing, because it's horrible sport, really. It's tough to just brutal, you know, get punched in the face and still love it even though

you're making millions of dollars. Yeah, and you've got like a ranch in Guadalajara, you've got a huge house in San Diego, you're sitting there, you've got people working for you, bringing your food out. And now, and someone goes, you've got to do 12 rounds of sparring with some 21 year old kid who had nothing. Yeah, you go, no, I'm all right, thanks, I'll have a game of golf. But what he does is he does the 12 rounds of sparring and then plays a game of golf. Yeah, you know, yeah, unique. We were talking the other week about some of the fighters that Tommy Hearn has faced over the years. And it's, it's funny to like look at Tommy's Fury. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Tommy's Fury, the Tommy Fury's face. Looking at their combined records,

I think it's like 12 and 174. Where do you find, as it has like a boxing promoter, where do you find somebody who's like one in 40 lifetime? Like, I mean, they're out there. You know, and it's, but you know what, like Tommy's doing that because he's actually not good enough to fight other opposition. But those fighters do nothing for the progression of a young fighter. But Tommy's fighting bad opposition, because he's actually not that good. I don't mean that disrespectfully, but he's just not like if we sign a kid out of the Olympics, you got to build them and you got to test the matchmaking is a skill. It's a science to actually develop a fighter and mold him into a champion. Whereas with Tommy, the process is

more like, is there anyone out there he can beat? Yeah, you know, oh, there's his bloke, you know, and yeah, he's basically just fighting whoever can fight until Jake Paul takes him. Yeah. And Jake Paul payday for him. That's why Jake's in such a great position, because there's no fight out there for Tommy Fury that can pay him anywhere near that kind of way other than Jake Paul. And I think Jake knows that and he quite enjoys it. And to be fair to Jake Paul, they made the fight and Tommy Fury pulled out two weeks before the fight. So he gave him his chance, you know, Jake Paul would. Yeah. When I went to Tommy Fury fought on the undercard against one of Jake Paul's Spartans. Real quick, darts, you also do darts. Why? How

can we get darts huge in America? I love watching barstool. Yes, there's been a lot of meetings with barstool and the PDC, which is a professional darts corporation, which is which is our governing body and our business we run. Darts has so much potential in America, because let me tell you, it is the greatest night out that you will ever witness. Go on to YouTube, look at the events. We're doing 20,000 crowd for darts in Germany, 15,000 in the UK. You know, it's growing at such a rapid pace and coming up in June for the first ever time, Madison Square Garden. Oh, I got to go. I got to go right now. Barstool, I know you're going to be there because I've been talking to DeZone and those guys. You guys come to the darts, I swear you will not believe what you

see. Oh, I believe it. I mean, the clips that I've seen on TV are just, it looks, you know what? It's mental. It is. It's mental, isn't it? But sew up your street because these are ordinary people. Yeah, a bunch of fat guys competing. Yeah, but like, but it's changing because there's so much money. Oh, I don't like that. We're looking like they do crossfit. Are they working out? Do you have to do like sit ups to be able to do a dart? Yeah, but you know, you've got these guys. You need weight classes. Yeah. You test for six years. Yeah, heavy weight darts championship. These are drug testing involved. It's like, these guys are coming from, honestly, like normal jobs, like it could be a builder,

could be, next thing, they're making like a couple of million bucks a year. And it's just, the fans love it because there's not like this territorial, I want my team to win and if we lose. So everyone just goes and enjoys it. Everyone dresses up in fancy dress, like the mount of pints, you know, lager consumed is like through the roof. It is unbelievable to watch and it will crack America. And that's the first little step in June. I like that too, because like everyone's going for drama, not like, oh, my team versus your team. It's like, we just want a great thrill. They don't actually know who's playing. Right. But I hope he's playing. I know him. Yeah. He's got the funny walk on music. You know, I like him. So what do you get dressed up as?

Are you wearing tuxedos or wearing fancy dress? Whatever you want. Bart Simpson, Spider-Man, Batman. You know, it doesn't really matter. That's a fucking awesome. That was spoken like a true Englishman being like, what should the Americans dress up as? Bart Simpson. Yeah, exactly. I didn't read any of us. To be honest with you. What is America? Oh, yeah. Bart Simpson. Oh, man. Well, Eddie, this has been awesome. I have one last question for you. It's our row back question. You're a great dresser. So we got some row back for you as well. If you want to take it home with you promo code take rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase. They make the best Q zips, polos, everything promo code take for 20% off. You mentioned his name briefly. It was it was a one

off. I caught it. So Canelo wins on May 7th. Triple G Canelo. That's the one. That's the one. Canelo Alvarez beats Dimitri Bivo in Las Vegas, September 17th. You'll see the trilogy Canelo against Triple G. Okay. Triple G did his part. He went to Japan. You know, after being out of the ring for 400 days and beat the world champion there, he'll be in Vegas next week, I'm sure. And if he wins, as I said, you'll see the trilogy. Now, are you a little nervous though, because the trilogy will be a week after you fight Bob Aram? Well, this is something we have to consider. Yeah. And maybe we'll move the Canelo Triple G fight because of the size of her and the Aram. But you're not going to move that one. No, that's locked in. But the problem is at 90 years old,

how long can we wait? Yeah. You got to give him first choice of dressing rooms, right? Maybe everyone. Maybe one has the special toilet. I fucking, I love you Eddie, because you are like, being a boxing promoter has to be just so thrilling, because everything you say, you can walk out and be like, I was just promoting. Like you can talk shit to anyone. But by the way, that's promotion. But I'll build a fight, right? So one of our guys will be fighting someone. I'll be going, yeah, this is a tough fight. This guy can really punch, you know, I think this is a 50-50 fight. And then our guy will win. And I'll be like, go up to him and go, well done. He's like, no, fuck you. I hope what you said. You said he could knock me out. I said,

I was just building a fight, man. I'm just setting it. Don't take it personally. I imagine you take a lot of pictures with fighters. That's like half the job. We'll build that one. Yeah. So do you do the point or do you ever do the fist? You get criticism for the fist. Because it's like, what do you think you are a fighter? So now you do the point. But then guess what? You get criticism for the point. I like the point though. You got to do something. Sometimes I tried to bring the thumbs up back. Yeah. Number one thumbs up. I think if you go to Farms, it's that one. Double thumbs up. Steady.

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Sure. I got a couple of firefests. This is just a general one. I just Apple, Apple products are the fucking worst things in the world. Like the fact that you need to have these adapters just to use like, I mean, it's probably a little bit niche, but like if you need a SD card reader, you have to have an extra adapter. If you want to plug in an HDMI, you have to have an extra adapter. The chargers aren't USB chargers anymore. You need a specific like USB-C chargers. It's just, it's just annoying as fuck. I hate Apple. It has nothing to do with the fact that maybe you forgot one of those items. No, I have all of these items, but I don't have the proper like, I only have a certain amount of

the USB-C adapters. I had to get big guy one for his microphone and it's like, I was trying to plug in my computer, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. The real firefest was I was in the Austin airport yesterday. I was in Austin for a day filming an exciting announcement that will be coming out Monday, but I was in the Austin airport coming to Vegas and I was walking through and I got, I stopped and fed in my tracks. There was a vending machine that just sold cupcakes. Never seen it before. It was like, whoa, like this is a vending machine, but it's just for cupcakes. And I was like, I got, I got, I got to get one of these cupcakes, get a cupcake, walk over to my gate, my flight's boarding. So I didn't eat it before I got my flight.

I was like, I'll just hold it and then eat it when I get to my seat. As I'm getting onto the plane, there was a sassy male flight attendant who was like, basically call me a little boy. He was like, Oh, like you got yourself a nice little, nice little, little boy dessert. And I was like, what? And he was like, I see that little cupcake. Like that looks good. I was, and he was just so rude to me. Something has been really nice, Hank. No, no, no. He was like, look, look at the big boy with his big treat. That's exactly what he said pretty much. He's like, you got yourself a little treat there, buddy. And I was like, what? And I just, and then I went to my seat so rattled, but the cupcake was,

was fine. But it was just like, it was, it was demoralizing, if we're being honest. Hank's just not used to people talking to him that way. He's used to, please sir, knocks on the door. May I enter schedule an appointment to talk to me? Not so much the face to face guy he used to be. I, yeah. Hank, I thought your firefaster's going to be when you had to address the entire Barstool sales team. And I was standing in the back and Hank was like, please get out of here, big cat. I was just smiling ear to ear. And I knew he knew that I was going to start taking pictures. Yeah. Like we'd, so that, yeah, they asked me to do a little, there's a national sales conference. They asked me to do a little presentation, you know,

naturally. And I'm luckily not that nervous of public speaking. I would probably credit this show and getting roasted on it for six years as a, as a, as a reason for that. So I'm like, not nervous whatsoever. And then as I go to stand up, big cat, like finished his little thing. I thought he was leaving. And then he was just standing in the background, like yelling, like basically like Chris Jenner holding the phone. Like you're doing great, sweetie. And I was, so I literally had to ask him to leave. I was like, please leave, like, please, please leave. So yeah, that was, yeah, it's been a fire week. Fire ass week. How was the cupcake though? Cupcake was, was decent. Yeah. Worth the shame that I received for it. I also just feel like

cupcakes are that food item that has gotten, it's the ultimate example of like Instagram meets real life where it's like cupcakes have become their own thing, their own thing that like people think are just like cute and pastel colored and something cool that you can take a picture of. But as far as eating a cupcake, I can think of like five or six other desserts that are hand held that I would rather eat than a cupcake. Yeah. I don't like all the frosting. Like I like the cake, but sometimes it's too much for Austin. Sometimes it's not not frosting. Yeah. Cupcakes are like, um, like five times a year. Ooh, that's nice cupcake. Like it's not, it's not something you like I'd much rather have a cookie than a cupcake. Yep. I need, I need someone in the

Austin airport to also, this is the other thing that the cupcake comes out of the vending machine before you can take it and starts playing a song. Like, uh, you just got a cupcake. You just got, it was wild. It was, it was like, it was one of those things that was like, it's like, kind of like a novelty drink for PFT. Like if I see a vending machine, Don't bring me into your, into your big little boy cupcake treat. That was the blues blues theme, right? Yeah. It was, yeah, pretty much. It wasn't that exact jingle, but it was, if someone, if someone's in the Austin airport and can get the cupcake and take a video of it, it will give a lot of context to how, just how much I regret doing this.

Hank, uh, last year my sons for my son's birthday, I don't know what my daughter's cupcakes could be, but his were Elmo. So I'll bring in some extra after this year. You can get your little cupcake pat you on your head. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. Probably be Paw Patrol. That's delicious. All right, PFT. Uh, my firefest had happened last night actually. So, um, I was on the stream. I was doing ghost of Manhattan stuff and I had memes, memes hit me up, uh, and told me before I started the stream that just FYI Castellanos, it's, he just had a kid, but he's not going to take the day off instead of like going to be with his family. He's going to go to the ballpark. He's going to play. You guys know that I love to bet on NFL

players to score a touchdown if they had a baby that week. And so he was giving me a heads up, which I appreciate memes. Um, so I'm, I'm playing the game. I'm taking out bandits left and right. I'm going after Putin hot on his trail. I got texts from memes, all caps. Castellanos just hit a home run, put a bet in on them, which was plus four 40. I was super pumped. I was like, Oh hell yeah. Castellanos just went yard. Memes was giving me the heads up about it. And then I find out later on that night after I log off and, uh, check all the box scores, they reviewed it. They said it was fan interference and they took it away. Yeah, I got cost, John Sterling. I got John Sterling. I got Castellanos by Castellanos.

Like I'm, I'm his most recent victim now for that. That's crazy. It was the right bet. It was right. You're going to say is when you said you were going to come up Putin's ass during the stream. Well, yeah, I did. I said that and I, but I meant it in a violent way in a violent, I was going to come inside him violently, not in a sexual way. Nice. Nice. With a, with a missile, I was going to fire a heat seeker right up his tailpipe. I was going to put my rocket in his tailpipe and explode. And I did it. Oh, that sucks. The Castellanos. Yeah. Fan interference. Fan interference. After you go out of your way to put a sizable wager on them,

that would have paid out nicely. And then you hear about it. So you, I mean, I got, I guess memes, thank you for telling me, because it did give me like 30 seconds of pure joy that I'll never be able to take back. Like I, that was real to me. I experienced that moment. And then just later I had to find out, Oh shit. Tj one MLB rigged. Yeah. Tj one, Tj one. Okay. My firefest, it's one of those ones that's very, it's, it's like a personal cringe moment. So on Sunday, Sundays are used Sunday mornings. Usually when my brain activity is at its absolute lowest, because it's like been a full weekend of parenting and it's just, I'm, I'm exhausted. My brain doesn't work. I was out walking. This guy comes out to me. He's like big cat. He's got

an accent and he's like, Oh my God, I can't believe I ran into you. I'm from Sweden and this is my first time in America and I ran into you. And I just, for some reason, I don't know why I was like, congrats. And I've been thinking about that moment, like nonstop for the last six days, telling someone congratulations for seeing me is like the douchiest thing you could possibly say. Yeah. It's like, you, you basically treated it like he won the game of life. You did it. I don't know why I said it. I was just like, Hey, congrats, dude. And I was just like, afterwards, like, what the fuck did I just say? Um, thankfully, I don't know if he really like, maybe he thought that was like, cause he was Swedish. So I, I'm hoping he thought like,

we just say congrats instead of hello. Um, but yeah, I, I, you know, when you have those interactions, like, uh, or like, you know, when you go to like, uh, in, uh, airport and your Uber driver drops you off is like, have a good flight. You're like, you too. Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck did I just do? Those moments are just, they're tiny killers. They don't mean anything, but they just, they stick into your head for a week. Yeah. I said that when I checked into the hotel, she was like, have a good stay. I was like, thanks you too. And then I was walking away. I was like, are you ever, they might live there though. Or if, if, like your teacher's talking to you and you're like, all right, I love you when you leave. And you're like, Oh no, I should. Yeah.

I thought I was going to my mom for a second. Yeah. You call your teacher mom. There's, I mean, everyone had that moment in like first grade and you're like, Oh fuck, that's the worst thing ever. I don't think it's that bad of a thing that you did though, because if this guy is like a big, big cat fan and he came to the United States from Sweden, seeing you like that, that's incredible. He must think like, I did hit the jackpot. You're probably right to congratulate. Like, it would be like, if I went to Italy and there's Mike Torrico, I would want him to be like, he got me out of, boom, went to France and Rudy Gobert was there. Yeah, exactly. Bombing out of the playoffs. Damn. Love you, dude. He's there coughing up a storm. Bill, you got a firefester. You just

canceled for life. He put Billy reposted it. Yeah, I got to own up to it. So retroactive firefests. I couldn't talk about it before, but now that it's out, you can go see it. I hopped in the ring with Dimitri Boval, who's going to be a Canella's opponent on the broadcast this Saturday on Dizon.com dash barstool for our stream. And it's on video. Check it out on the barstool blog and YouTube, but I hopped in the ring with him with a couple of pads on. And it was one of the scariest experiences of my life. He also first firefests. He also got, Oh, what's your second one? Sorry. The hogs. Oh, the hogs. Okay. Dimitri Boval, like, that was great when you went up to see him and you're like, do you remember me? And he's, what do you call you? He's got a really

good sense of humor. Yeah. What do you say? He said, he said, John. It's great. It's a great move. It's actually hilarious because I can tell that the way he's been trying to like learn English better is watching comedy. So like he's picked up a great sense of humor. What if you just watch Borat? That'd be funny if somebody learned English by watching Borat and they thought that was like how we actually communicated over here. It'd also be funny if he just starts like, if he's watching comedy and he just picks up only the most controversial bits. He's like just talking about jerking off in front of people like Louis CK or like he's got, he's got like real hot takes about trans people like Dave Chappelle. He's like, yeah, I've just been watching Netflix.

There's no way Boval is going to win Billy, right? Dude, Boval, like you can't, you can't not root for Boval. The guy is just. Well, you could, you could be Mexican. I will. Yeah. I'm going to root against Boval. You could be from Mexico. Yeah. But like Boval, you use like, so the second episode is actually coming out by the time you're hearing this. It's on the Barstool blog, probably check my Twitter. I'll have tweeted it by then, but he's just the chillest dude. Like I went to a barbecue with him and he like makes really good steak. So it was a really great time. As opposed to Canelo. He's going to win then. I take it back though. There is a way he's going to win. If he's chill, then he might win. Well, if he just cooks a mistake and just gets

him off his gate. Billy's like, you have to eat this steak. If you think his steak was good, you should eat Canelo's steak because Canelo, you remember he, the steak that he eats is actually steroids. A stronger steak than the steak that Boval eats. You'd like that a lot better. No, but I mean, he like, he has one of the most efficient jabs I've ever seen. But like, I have a very small. Yeah. So between him and who's I can say though. But I heard that from like actual experts. I've been hanging around with a lot of experts and Boval cuts the ring off in like ways like that people say that hasn't been seen since like, you know, like I'll leave, but in the way that he moves. So it's going to be a good fight. It's not just, he's not going to just let Canelo

walk all over him. And in order to win, he really needs to just knock him out. So because it goes through a decision. Canelo's winning. So it's going to be a slug fest. Well, make sure you buy it to zone.com slash partial. It's going to be awesome. And make sure you use that URL, right? Yes. Cause then you couldn't listen to us. Um, Jake, finish this off. Yeah. The other day, my glasses were on the couch and I accidentally sat on them and they cracked new one coming on those. Did you tape them? No, they're just like a little loose. Yeah, I can tell you're off your game a little bit. Yeah. You are the dweeb that LeBron was talking about. Yes. LeBron's doing a Q&A soon. Did you guys see that? Oh, yeah. I did see that. Oh no. Well, yeah. So he just tweeted

this out random. Do you have the tweet pulled up? I can find it. I haven't done a Q&A in a while. Man, I haven't done a Q&A on here in a while. Coming soon. I haven't done a Q&A on here with y'all in a while. Coming soon emoji. He could have just done it right then. Yeah. Dude, I remember Paul Gasol once did this. He did like, like answering questions for the next like hour. He answered one question and just forgot. It's kind of a power move. Just leave everyone waiting. I have, I have LeBron notifications set up obviously on my Twitter. So I'll be the first to know when the Q&A actually happens. I think it might be, we might have to wait until like August for this Q&A. Yeah. It's going to be a long time. It's going to be a long time. It might

have to be time to bring back baby Bron because he's got three or four guys shouting out every night. It seems like. Ja. He loves Ja. He loves Ja. He loves CP3. He loves Tyrese. Is Tyrese Max? Or just set up a bingo card. Yeah. Actually, I need to, I need to start getting my draft ready for what I'm going to ask LeBron in his eventual Q&A. Yeah. Are you better than MJ? By the way, their, their tequilas are up for the same award. Like, I don't know what the beverage world series, who the fuck knows, but I saw that they both have tequilas and they're both up for tequila of the year. So if MJ wins, we'll be talking about that if LeBron does, I'll just pretend this never happened. Okay, noted. Cool. All right. Jake,

you want to do the numbers? Yeah. Hank, you still, Hank, you still haven't gotten it? Yep. 93. I have not won. Nine. Six and nine. What number, Hank? Eight. 93. Oh, you got it? How about that? Let's go. Okay. Hey, fuck your panthers. That's a sign back on the caps tonight. So that's huge. Actually, you know, I'd like to give this win to Hank, Hank. 21. We got to do a better job of like, I don't know if we can write it down, but every time someone wins, they'll like celebrate. I'd be like, wait, that was your number? Yeah. It was like two seconds ago. Right. Hell yeah, PFT. Let's go. Now I'm here. 21. Put on 21, Hank. Let me know how it goes. I'll do the same. All right. I'll do the same. All right. See you guys. Hit them straight.

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