Pardon My Take - Randy Moss Talking Preakness, Pat Connaughton In Studio, Wolves Force Game 7 And NFL ScheduleRelease

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

The Wolves force a Game 7 by absolutely killing the Nuggets. The Rangers avoid an absolute disaster and we talk PGA Championship and an idea for an upcoming John Daly challenge golf video(00:00:00-00:23:14). The Celtics move on and the Luka and the Mavs have stifled the Thunder(00:23:14-00:38:01). NFL release day and we talk schedules and whether or not things have gotten a little too cute(00:38:01-01:00:00). Randy Moss joins us to talk Preakness, what happened at the Derby, and did Secretariat do Steroids?(01:00:00-01:26:07) Pat Connaughton from the Milwaukee Bucks joins the show to talk about being a new dad, the Bucks season, Playoffs and Real Estate ponzi schemes that we would like to start(01:26:07-02:15:23). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and Hank had another sleeping incident.(02:15:23-02:35:30)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Friday, May 17. And the Minnesota Timberwolves have forced a game seven with an absolute ass kicking PFT of the Denver Nuggets. When you thought this series couldn't get weirder you thought the the the wolves were dead they come out and they the 50 piece a 45 pced the Nuggets at home with their throwbacks and we're going, yeah, they trumped them and we're going to a game seven. Yeah, game seven, two sweetest words in sports. It used to be Beatle A. Now it's now it's game seven. We're also game five fans, but this series has not been, it's been close

in terms of the number of games one, but there haven't been any real good games. It feels like it goes back and forth. First two games, obviously timber wolves. Then the nuggets went on a little run. Now it's back to the wolves again. And whatever team is hot is just way better than the other team that night. So I don't know what to expect, expect out of game seven. It feels like nuggets have the advantage at home, but after watching this ass kicking tonight, now that's kind of up in the air too. I just whoever the spreads don't matter in this game put it that way. Yeah it's just like pick pick whatever team you think is

going to win and if they can figure out how to get the ball out of Jamal Murray's hands more than that might be a good idea because that's how they kind of turn the tide of the series was in the first two games. They were like, you know what? Michael Malone said, Jamal Murray bringing the ball up the court is an issue for us. Him getting pressure 94 feet is an issue for us. So, we're going to have Jokic do it. We're going to have Aaron Gordon do it and that seemed to work for three games and Jamal Murray is just

back to being complete garbage. He just he just can't shoot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the Nuggets shot like shit. I also thought that the Timberwolves made an awesome defensive adjustment by doubling Jokic in the post, where they're like, hey, Rudy Gobert got cooked for an all-time performance in game five. Let's maybe give him some help.

And it wasn't even the doubling. It was like how good and crisp they were with their rotations behind the double. And then obviously it helps that the Nuggets just couldn't hit a shot. But I all credit to the Wolves like they came out with that defensive intensity and game plan that you saw in games one and two and just absolutely took it to the Nuggets. And now I mean Anthony Edwards was awesome. I did have a nuclear missile whale play on

his over points, but the game was so out of hand he was like three points off. But yeah you're right like the spreads don't matter. These games as close they've been it's been a great like chess like counter chess moves by both coaches. And we now get to a game seven in Denver I think Sunday night. And I guess whoever whichever team is going to want to start making some shots because they the nuggets were so bad from three, so, so bad from three tonight. And the wolves look like the game one and two wolves where it's

like this team is ready. That's the thing. The wolves played, they should get credit. They played with a lot of energy and they looked really good, especially in the first half. They put the game out of hand pretty much by the middle of the third quarter. But also the Nuggets, I think, deserve it's like who won. Did they win it or did did the Nuggets lose it? If the Nuggets had shot well, this game would have been much more competitive. I don't know if it would have been obviously 45 points is a lot. But this was just an all time shit performance by the Nuggets shooting the basketball.

And we also should say that the Wolves were their throwbacks with the throwback court, which was the minute I turned on the game. I was like, oh, it's fucking on like that. They I don't know. They should wear that every single game. I do not think they could lose in those. I know there's probably stats to say they probably lost game three and four and I'm forgetting it.

I'm going recency bias. They don't lose in those. I like the t-shirts. They were wearing tonight, too. They're kind of swagger jacking. I'm going recency bias. They don't lose in those. I like the t-shirts they're wearing tonight too. They're kind of swagger jacking okay, see a little bit but the the fan t-shirts that just said I heart wolves. That's a good one. Yeah. Uh by the way, if you're if you're tuning in and watching us, Hank is uh in a well, I was gonna say Uber but you're banned from Uber. A

Lyft. He's in a library. I'm in a library, yeah. He's studying. Reading books. A Lyft library. Yeah. He joined the show just to prove that he's still awake, even though it's not that late, but he's gone for the weekend. He's out of town and he's in a Lyft right now in a library. Lyft library. Yeah, great to be here.

Missed you guys. He's also PFT. I can see him even though you can't really see him. He's like a hologram Hank. You see that smile? That smile is that the Wolves might win game seven. Yeah, he's happy. Hank's definitely in a better place right now than he was at this exact time two nights ago. You do you do look like a hologram or like a ghost like a demon poltergeist. Yeah, I tried to take it off that I feel like I almost blew up the Riverside. So I'm just I'm just going with it. I'm in

traffic. I take it off again. I can't. Okay, it's gonna say it stopped the recording. Uh, all right. Other game tonight that was incredible. Period of the Rangers. Period of the week. New York Rangers down 3-1 looked lifeless. Looked like we were going to have an all-time choke job by the Rangers forcing a game 7 after they're up 3-0 in this series. They come back, they win the game. Memes, I would like to read a tweet to you that was posted when the Rangers had a incredible comeback, like awesome moment for Rangers fans.

They were probably I know some Rangers fans. We have some coworkers are Rangers fans. They started to feel the pressure because you don't want to be the team that's up 3L and then have to go home for a game 7. So put all that out there. Rangers come back from down 3-1. They look like they were dead. And the tweet we got from the PardonMyTake account was, hurricanes were so close to pulling off the series comeback. That's the quote for the Rangers game winning goal. That's our one and only memes. Yep. I love it. I love it. Unbiased though. Memes is nothing but unbiased. There was a

great, great save by the defender in this game. Do you see that? Yeah. Laid out, stopped the puck on the line. The parallax angles were everywhere. They're trying to figure out if it went in. I don't think it went in. It was one of the, it was an all time, all time hustle play. Yeah. Yeah. Memes it went in. It was one of the, it was an all-time hustle play. Yeah. Yeah. Meme, so how are you feeling now that the Rangers, you were definitely like, this is going to be awesome. They're going to choke. The pressure is all going to be on them in game seven. And then it just flipped on you. Are you getting nervous? So I was so I was very excited in the second. And then biz went on TNT and said when the Canes win the series, I want the Martin Nukes a framed and signed. So and then they just went on a tear on the third. So it's

business. Yeah, it's all business fault. Yeah, he is a mush. It's good too, because biz is like Charles Barkley, the two of them together are like the moshes of their respective shows on TNT. Yeah, they're so good. I actually, so we talk a little bit later about Inside the NBA and how it's maybe going away, maybe moving to a different place. I went down a rabbit hole for about, I'd say 25, 30 minutes today, watching the best clips and inside the NBA history, I was just laughing the entire time. It's, it's so funny. It's so good. I hope they keep it together somehow, but just if you don't, if you've got some time to kill on a Friday,

if you're in a lift and you're going somewhere, probably totally sober, uh, just pull up the clips. They're like highlight reels of inside the NBA and just laugh your ass off. It'll be the best 30 minutes that you spend. Did you watch the clip? My all-time favorite is Charles Barkley talking about how he got his bracelet from a dude in the sauna. Yeah, yeah. In the steam room. In the steam room. Yeah. He's like, yeah, this guy gave it to me. That's a great one. My other favorite is the night that the Clippers and the Rockets got into the fight underneath the Staples Center and they went to somebody in the locker room that was giving a very serious report about what happened and she was like

The LAPD has been called they are providing security for both teams. There's a police presence outside the locker rooms Escorting players to the team buses It was like a very serious report and then it cut back to inside the NBA and Shaq and Charles were just crying, laughing, doing and they were doing like fake 911 calls like, Hey, 911. Yeah, you better get here quick. Chris Paul is about to come kick my ass. It was so good. But guess what, PFT? We don't have to worry. Because I don't

know if you saw NBA countdown, the counterpart on ESPN tonight, but, uh, minutes before the tip off of the wolves nuggets game, they were so locked in, they had a debate. Would Steven a score one basket verse LeBron in a one-on-one game up to 100 points, spotting Stephen A. 99 points. Yeah, so that was what they talked about. Because Stephen A. brought this up. Stephen A. brought this up this morning. He was wet.

He was wet before they started taping. He brought it up. I think it was on like First Take or Get Up, one of those shows, and he brought it up. And so he started talking about it. And so the way that content works at ESPN is when somebody says something inflammatory on one of their shows, then all the other shows talk about that for the next like two weeks. So that what did they say? Did they think he could do it? I think he said he could do it because he was warming

up with Bob Myers tonight and he hit like five jumpers in a row. So that was kind of I think that was what propelled it like, hey, we're it's ready for prime time. Let's bring this debate to prime time. I can probably get a bucket on him. I'm going to say that Stephen A. I think Stephen A could score like five buckets on him. Ooh, cuz I think LeBron is or losers. What do you mean? Like if LeBron scores, does he get the ball checked out? Oh, yeah. Yeah. If LeBron scores, no, it goes to

losers. Okay. Okay. I think you get five on him because I think that LeBron would he just he get tired. He there's no load management in the game to 100 one on one. Yeah, Stephen A could just probably shit talk him to get in his head. Yeah. Oh, easily easily. Yeah. Okay, should we talk about the PGA championship real quick? I have two thoughts. One is Scotty Scheffler may be mortal because he's not leading and it's very weird to see him not leading because Zander Schauffele was incredible. What

did Scotty end up shooting minus three minus four. So he's tied for 12. But he had was just weird. told which was insane. Yeah, he had an eagle but then he had a bad bogey a couple holes later. Um, and then the other one is, do you think there's a possibility that John Rom gives back all his money and he's like, I made a huge mistake. I'm gonna go back to the PGA. Which is because he's not happy. He's so miserable and he's golfing like shit. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe what is it about playing on the live tour that's that actually makes him worse at golf?

I don't know. I mean, he ended up minus one, but it was like if you look at his scorecard, he was he was all over the place. Like he he bogeyed. It's actually incredible that he was minus one because he ended up boating five holes and he just looked miserable out there. I don't know. It could be could he be the one that swings it all back or he's like, I don't want this money. Like, can I just give you an IOU guys? Well, the thing about John Rahm is I think he still wants all the money. He wants to play better golf too, but I know I think that the money, the money is a big stumbling

block in that negotiation because he doesn't want to lose it. And then also trying to go to MBS and say, Hey, I'm, can I just say psych? Can we just, can we just do a redo on this one? I'll go back to the PGA. I don't know if that's going to happen at all, because that's John Rahm, it felt like was a big part of the public investment funds leverage leverage where now everybody's talking about like, they've got the best players and you can't make an argument otherwise now, especially how the start of the season was going like besides Scotty. And there are a couple other guys, but like they have all the top players ones that have been most successful in

majors. And it just feels like the John Rom transfer was the tipping point for that and I don't think that the live tour wants to give that guy up. I agree with you. I'm just he does look miserable out there. So I don't know if he's just like hating his decision but it's it's interesting to watch and then our guys Brooks and Max both did well. They're in the hunt. They did well. I love it when they play together. I love it when you're in the same group because it solves a lot of problems for me. I don't have to worry about jumping back and forth from groups or waiting till my group shot comes

up. I just said it. I forget it. Then Shoffley. Shoffley was lights out today. He's in the lead. He shot nine under, I think. So now everyone is saying like, this feels like it's the year. Feels like it's the tournament. He's not under right now. Uh I don't think I'm going to I'm going to go on the record and say I've seen this movie before and it's not going to end well. Yeah. Bogey free

golf from him. He was on fire 62. It's crazy. Hank, have you ever played a bogey free round? Yeah. Doubles and all doubles. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? We have awesome rest of the show back in studio. We just wanted to make sure we updated obviously game six. Anything else before we kick it to ourselves to talk more playoffs NFL schedule, Randy Moss and Pat Conantin.

We got any last thoughts? Jason, Jason del is in the hunt. I bet him, I think it was like 50 bucks to win $10,000 if he finishes top 10. So, something to keep an eye on. Alright, Jason Duffner. Duffner update. Duffner update. What were you going to say, Jake? Didn't you say on the last show you wanted Michael Block to finish dead last? I did and he was for a minute, but I don't think he's dead last anymore. That sucks. Well, okay, so...

He got an eight on the second hole. I'm glad you brought Blocky up because he had a quad on number two, and then he's in commercials all over the place. He's like one of the faces of the PGA Championship this year. It's very funny. And he does. He looks more like if you kidnapped Ryan Rosillo and left him out in the sun for a week. That's what Michael Block looks like. Yeah. I forgot that John Daly plays this every year. So John Daly is second to last and Michael Block is, uh, he's, he's far off finishing dead last, but yeah, he sucks in that. The, the eight that he got was so funny because it just goes against everything if he had worries distance because it was just him hitting it back and

forth over the green. Yeah, and getting an eight. Yeah, also with john daily, he's he it's awesome. The setup that he has at the PJ championship is incredible. He gets to drive a cart. So he's driving around. But his caddy has to walk. So his caddy is carrying his bag. And then John Daly's just driving a car next to him. Not obeying cart path rules, driving all over the place. It's awesome.

I love to see that at a Big John. And the reporter for the Athletic, Gabby Herzig, said, she tweeted this, I overheard the volunteer with John Daly's group say that he went through two packs of cigarettes, four snicker bars and two cokes today at Valhalla had to share two sodas. What the fuck is wrong? Pepsi should have been Pepsi would have shot better. Would have shot better. That's a fact. That's a wild

ratio to a pack of cigarettes for every soda. Yeah. And also uh, two snickers. I think it would be even crazy. Two snicker bars for every pack of of cigarettes. Yeah, it's a way for stickers. How many cigarettes are there in a package? 2020 20 20. So he smoked 40 cigarettes and 18 holes. He's smoked 10 cigarettes for every Snickers bar. That's fucking incredible. He's smoked 10 cigarettes for every Snickers bar. That's fucking incredible. He probably didn't even he probably didn't throw away the cans either. They're just probably filled with cigarette butts. Of course. Of course. Jake, have you ever smoked a cigarette? Never

in my life. I have dipped though with you. Oh yeah. That's true. Remember that. Smoke a cig. Jake, look at you smoking. One of the worst. words that wasn't as black Buffalo. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But yeah, we'll get we'll get you some cigarettes. Jake, we'll just do one. What do we do with John Daily Challenge? 40 cigarettes, 18 holes, two pepsis, two for Snickers. I think we gotta do that as a video. I think we gotta do that as a video. That would we gotta do that as a video. That would rock. Done, I'm in, fuck it.

I'm so in. I think I'd probably eat the Snickers bars before I even got past the first hole. This is how my life goes. I like start smoking because of some stupid PMT related challenge. Then I have to start vaping to quit smoking. Then I have to start smoking to quit vaping.

And then I quit smoking. And then we do another stupid PMT challenge. I have to start smoking to quit vaping and then I quit smoking and then we do another stupid PMT challenge I have to start smoking again. Yeah. All right. Well, we're doing it. Yeah, I mean do it on the simulator Okay, so I'm I'm looking forward to the John Daly challenge Yeah, I am too. This is gonna be great Oh, I should walk because it'll give us a little more time. Two blocks of cigarettes, four snickers, two cokes, and 18 holes. Get us bonked by Hooters. Two pepsi's. Yeah, yeah. We got this. This is no problem. Okay, I'm happy we had one more thing to talk about.

Okay, great. The blocky led us to this. We're gonna smoke two sat back cigarettes and play some golf. And we gotta try to stink. We gotta we gotta beat to set back cigarettes and play some golf and we gotta try to think we gotta we gotta beat John Daly score, which we should be able to do if we did a scramble plus 16 plus 16. Do we now what if we just did a full pack of cigarettes each? So daily was like man. Yeah, maybe maybe me you and Hank will do the John Daly challenge. We gotta finish. That's actually what we should do. We

should do a three man scramble. He shot 11. Okay, so that actually makes it even more exciting. We do the three man scramble, have to shoot 11. Uh, and we do the we do this, we split the cigarettes, the Snickers bars and the pepsis. And if we don't do it, we have to just do it again right away. If we don't score less than 11, we have to just go, we have to literally just start again the same time, like just be like, all right, so we could have to smoke infinity packs of cigarettes. What's so funny is that smoking 40 cigarettes in 18 holes is essentially what dads do to their kids when they find you smoking for the first time. They're like, oh, you like

cigarettes? Well, here, I bet you can't smoke 40 of them. That's a casual afternoon at the links for John Daly. All right, I love this. So, all right, I think the final, I think what we finally have to decide is, I think it's 40 cigarettes. I think we all should have to do the four Snickers and two Pepsi's individually. And if we don't shoot better than 11, we have to go right back and start over. Can I be honest with you? I think we I think we all have to do the two packs. Okay. And if we don't shoot eleven, we have to start over. I don't know. We I don't know about that but I would feel like I

was cheating the game if I only smoked one pack. That's the hardest part of the challenge. Oh easily. Yeah. Basically can't have a cigarette out of your hand. You can't breathe. You're just breathing cigarettes. Breathe air. Yeah, you have no time to stop smoking a cigarette. John Daly is essentially training at altitude every time he plays around the golf because he's not getting any oxygen. Oh, jeez. If we do this, if we do, he might not have finished the second pack though. We should say that we should, we probably should get a clarification. If anyone can get us an actual amount of cigarettes smoked in the 18 holes, that would help because two back cigarettes doesn't all like it could have been, he needed a second pack, but he

didn't get all the way through it. Yeah. So, so who reported this? Uh, Gabby Herzog. Okay. Does it, if anybody out there knows Gabby Herzog, oh, she anybody out there knows Gabby Herzig. I'll go to the bottom of it. Oh, she follows me. I'll hit her up. OK, we need to get the exact number of cigarettes, or as close to it as possible.

OK, this is going to be fun. Hey, quick question. Do you know exactly how many cigarettes John Daly smoked? Was it a pack and a half, a pack and a quarter, pack and a quarter or like a full bona fide two packs of cigarettes? Uh do you? Alright, we'll get an answer. You're going for the Canucks. He just scored. Oh, he did. Oh **** I told you guys. I know you did. You did. No, no. I'm not blaming you, Jake. I'm not

blaming you. You did. Good call, Jake. I had a new. I had a new con aunt so I didn't really have... Damn it. Yeah, that game's at 2-2 right now. We'll talk about it on Sunday. Okay, let's kick it back to ourselves. Okay, we're back in studio, and Henry Lockwood, you didn't beat the Cavs by triple digi, but you did get rid of the Cavaliers,

ended their season. More importantly, you look well rested. You look well rested, we'll get to it on Fire Fest. The Cavs are gone, they also got shomed. Again, this is I think the third one that's happened. The body wasn't even cold yet. It was maybe 30 minutes after the Cavs get bounced. He posts a deep dive into the Cleveland Cavaliers and J.B. Bickerstaff, which by the way, he

doesn't get enough credit for having the worst coach name of all time. J.B. Bickerstaff. It's kind of fun to say though. But it's literally his coaching staff is bickering. Yes. They're upset at each other. But yeah, the Shams breakdown was so they lose. JB Biggerstaff goes back into the locker room and probably pulls up his phone.

He's like, all right, I guess I got to figure out my vacation. We went to the second round first time. We want to play off series since LeBron or without LeBron James since 1993. Goes on the Internet. And it's just this entire story how he got undressed by Kobe Altman the team president no one really respected him Donovan Mitchell doesn't really like him Jared Allen might be a wimp mm-hmm and you mean figuratively undressed by the by the team president yes okay yes good so

yeah it's got to be weird for him to go through that if we're putting our conspiracy hats on and we're speculating like we talked with Woj about did LeBron plant this? LeBron courtside? Maybe trying to elbow the coach out, elbow his way in. Now, one thing we didn't talk about with LeBron courtside, I think he had his own personal bottle of wine with him. Always does.

Yeah. So you're allowed to do that. You can BYOW if you're LeBron James to an NBA game. Hold on. Hold on a second, hold on a second. So wait. Let's get into it. Alright so LeBron is gonna go back to the Cavs. Yeah.

LeBron has a podcast with JJ Reddick. LeBron wants to make the podcast even bigger. LeBron gets JJ Reddick hired by the Lakers, tells JJ Reddick, I'm gonna get you the Lakers job, but I'm not gonna be here. But at least you have the Lakers job. And now expectations are a little different. You can have this Lakers job for a while. You see Anthony Davis, you have all this cast face.

LeBron knows that he's a coach killer. So he's like, you know what? I'm going to put you in a position to succeed because you're my buddy. We can't be on the same team and do this podcast. I am gonna go to Cleveland and I'll get a different coach. So LeBron is actually trying to get two coaches hired right now. Is that actually his way of finally giving back

to the coaching community? I mean, that would be, well, no, because he also got two coaches fired, if that's the case. Yeah, but he's like, it's kind of, he's trying to restore his karma by getting two coaches hired in the same cycle. He's a job creator. Yeah, well, yeah, but again, he's getting the two coaches hired because he getting two coaches hired in the same cycle. He's a job creator. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah But again, he's getting the two coaches hired because he got two coaches fired. Wait, what other coach hypothetically?

Hey, oh and bicker's and bicker's staff. Yes, correct So he's he is creating new jobs, but he's also eliminating old jobs So he's he's actually next he's carbon neutral carbon neutral. But again, none of this might happen. None of this way So, uh, yeah, it's fun, but it's fun to think about. But JB Bickerstaff probably I think that Shams has something like this ready to go for every team now that gets bounced. I'm going to be disappointed if either, you know, if the the nuggets beat the Timberwolves, the Timberwolves get bounced.

If he doesn't have one ready to go for the Timberwolves, if he doesn't have one ready to go for the Thunder or maybe the Mavericks, I want to see the immediate postmortems on every team. Like, here's why they always knew it wasn't going to work. If I were Rudy Gobert or Karl-Anthony Towns, I'd pull a fire alarm tonight trying to just extend the series because I feel like it's going to go with them. No, you got to be a source.

You got to be the one. You got to have your narrative out there. We we should we should release that this podcast is splitting up and see if shams just posted an article Imagine if we just did that and it was just all hanks quotes. Mm-hmm. Like what the fuck dude? Yeah, why did you do this? That'd be good night night recordings. We need that on on inside the NBA too. Yeah, like give us Oh, yeah, you're starting to like allude to it, which is sad. They're not even alluding to it. They're just saying it. Charles Barkley's like, I think it's, I think we're done. Yeah. The show's over. It's very sad. I hope they do a gone fishing for themselves. Yeah. It sucks because it seems like it's, I actually have a take. I love Ernie Johnson. He's awesome. He does. He is the point guard to that. The stars of the show are Kenny and Chuck.

So it will be weird if, cause I think what Chuck has basically been saying is like, he'll go somewhere else, Ernie Johnson won't, which will suck because you don't wanna break up the chemistry, but I still think, if you have to replace one person, you can replace him and probably keep going. Probably, but Ernie Johnson is the perfect pick for that show.

Absolutely perfect. I love how everyone's talking about him. He is a Turner lifer. He's going to work for that Turner company till the day he dies. Ernie, it's OK to not be a Turner lifer. Let us keep enjoying the show that you've built and has been phenomenal.

No one's going to be like, oh, man, how did you turn your back on Turner? Yeah, so I guess it all depends on what either network or service gets the NBA and who they can hire. I'm pretty sure it's NBC. I think it's NBC. It's definitely going to be NBC. I think it's pretty much NBC, yeah. So who's going to do it from NBC?

Jack Collins works. I was going to say Tony Dungy. Mike Florio. Get him out. Tony Romo. Toreyco works there. Toreyco? I don't think Toreyco would be that good. He's good at everything. Terrico works there. Terrico. I don't think Terrico would be that good.

He's good at everything. That's not true. Talking to women. Staying away from women. Yeah. Jake, you walked yourself into that one. You literally just were like, hey, guys. Here, let me put the ball in the tea.

Terrico's a great guy. Yeah, let me put the ball in the tea. OK. Great broadcaster, even a great guy. Yeah, let me put the ball in the tea. Mm-hmm. Okay. Great broadcaster, even better human being. Randy Moss. Oh, yeah. That would be sick. Our Randy Moss.

Yeah, our Randy Moss. Our Randy Moss would be excellent at that job. No eagle. Florio, I'd like to see Florio do it for a day. He'd be so upset. He's just like, you guys are talking in hypotheticals. Get back to the facts. No, Florio would throw out some of his little NBA fans.

Yeah, true. Yeah, you're right. We actually do need to unleash Mike Florio's brain on the NBA. That would be fun. OK, I take it back. Florio would be perfect for that show. OK, other game.

So oh, sorry, Hank. We covered it. Congrats, Hank. Your Celtics cakewalk. In our defense, we don't know whether you're going to show up to the show anymore. So we have no idea if you're sitting here, or if this is AI Hank.

Hank, the Celtics. It was a good one. The Cavs fought hard. Marcus Morris, career game. Yeah. There was, you know, they were close for the first three quarters. Celtics closed it out, almost covered.

1 by 15. I don't give a fuck about anyone that says that their path is easy like there's nothing that the Celtics can do about that All they can do is beat the teams in front of them and that's what we're gonna do We're gonna smoke New York maybe in the NF New York absolutely chokes the rest of the series, but Who cares like it's not it's not a valid excuse for people to be like all like Cupcake Mickey Mouse, you know Eastern Conference run like who cares? What are we supposed to do? If you're winning games, that's what you're winning series four to one pretty good there are gonna be some hiccup games for sure and we talked about Jalen and

Jason kind of going after each other with the chest slap. Do you see Jalen got him back? Mm-hmm after after Jason Tatum hit that big shot towards the end of the game Jalen went up to him slapped him in the chest really hard. They laughed about it had a good time. They're bros again Yeah, Jalen Brown just needs like every single day in in these off days just thousand two thousand three thousand four thousand five thousand free throws just We put a lot of free what about his left hand at that's okay That's a little bit of an overrated thing the free throws is real and the free throws are scary He was two for last night

It's it's just crazy that it was like this, you know, three years ago two years ago last year there's no confidence with him going to the line as last year, there's no confidence with him going to the line as a watching as a fan. And it feels like him as a player, which is just a nightmare scenario when, you know, we are playing a good team, fully healthy team, close games, every point matters. That's I'm not even worried about the Knicks. I'm worried about our free throws making. So are you worried a little bit about Jerry O'Connell? Bing bong, bong, bong, bong, Henry, bing bong.

Now I love Jerry. I welcome it with open arms. Here you go. Our friend Kirk tweeted this the other day. Kirkman and you walk around with this in your back pocket. 87 Lakers path to the finals. They beat a 37 in 45 sons team, a 42 and 40 Nuggets team and a 36 and 46 Sonics team just go around and say that have that in the card who cares who cares you play who's in front of you Half the finals does not matter. That's a perfect thing for Kirk to put out there too. It's like a 1980s team Yeah, right. Yeah, but like are they gonna take away Magic Johnson's title there? No, no one says that right? So who cares? Happy you stayed cocky. Happy you're here today. Thanks. Yeah.

Other game. Luca. He heard all that junk. He's not hurt anymore. No, he's still very hurt. So they put up a great graphic last night. It was the Big Ben graphic. He is the new Big Ben.

Yep. Right knee sprain, left knee soreness, back soreness, left Achilles soreness, his teeth hurt, and he has a parrot and its head's falling off. I think the teeth hurt. You gotta get that checked out. Yeah, the teeth. The teeth is bad. That's... Teeth pain is bad. IR from teeth. I think he got hit in his teeth. It's not like it's a toothache. If you have a toothache, you can't do anything.

No. But he had a triple double He looked awesome. Thank you. Okay over there. It's choked on some water. He choked you. Okay That's a crime. Do you mean it's a grind? Straps a good Hank almost drowned drinking a body armor We're good the thunder After game four. I was like, Oh, they earn their stripes. They're back to not having any stripes anymore because besides Shea Gilder, Alexander, they

look like the moment is too big. Jalen Williams has been bad. He needs to be really good. And I'm just so sick of watching the Thunder pump fake on every single possession and then pass and then drive to the middle and then pass and then miss a three. Yeah so their three point shooting in the last two games has been atrocious and they're not gonna win this series if they shoot 25% from three. They have to they have to be lights out from three and then they can win. I don't think they're dead yet. No but they just they they have not had anyone besides Shea Gilder's Alexander in the last like Jalen Williams is is one of their best players. He needs to step up, like stop pump faking. It feels like there's a crisis of

confidence which you could totally understand for a young team. And Shay Gilder's Alexander is a little bit older than the other guys where he's been through a little bit more. So he has the confidence, but the young guys are being like, this moment feels too big. Either way, it's okay for the thunder in the future. But right now, and I am back to, they did the hack a shack again, shout out Derek Lively going five for six from the free throw line, just shoving it in their face. But yeah, the Mavs, Mavs are a little dangerous, Hank. Their defense is really good. Yeah, I hope they can beat the Nuggets. I think they're good. Okay. And like, do I think they'll beat the Nuggets? No. And I feel like they have all their role players are stepping up in like big, PJ Washington has been great. He

didn't have, he had 10 points on Wednesday night, but like Derek Jones has been awesome. That block and then dunk sequence with like two minutes left, which basically the game was over, but it was like, that was the dagger. Kyrie's not even scoring and they're playing well. You think they have a chance against the Nuggets on? I know. Think if Luca-

Blacks out every game in 1250. But- Or Kyrie. But that's a chance. That's the beauty of the NBA playoffs the NBA playoffs if you have a worse chance than the Timberwolves Worse, I think a worse chance. I think there's definitely a high likelihood In fact, I think it's probably gonna happen where either Luca or Kyrie Maybe both of them have one game where they just go insane and they win a game I don't think it's gonna be a sweep

I don't think it's gonna be for one but I don't think it's gonna be four one, but I would have the Nuggets like, Nuggets in six, Nuggets in seven. I think they might have a better chance just because of the Luka factor. Anytime you have a guy like Luka, who is a superstar, and you're like, if he just plays this- Everyone was sucking off Anthony Richardson

after game one and two. Always Superstar is the best. The big three has let- So much better than Jason Dane. Oh wow, okay, so now we know The I mean the suck-off fest was insane and we have the nugget well I know where to be already know whether the wolves are dead or not because you listen to the beginning of the show. I I okay, they're dead also an underrated part of

Show was when we asked Hank how it went between the Nuggets and the Timberwolves when we recorded it in studio and he was like bad. Like what do you mean? Just bad. It was bad. Nothing good at the beginning of the show. Nothing good. Yeah. That's right. You don't think Luca though, it's a long shot, but Luca is one in that group of guys that it's like if he just goes insane, anything can happen.

Yeah. I mean, Kyrie's kind of in there too. I just- Jokic is obviously higher than that. It's just Jokic is just- Yeah. Jokic is bigger. Like if Jokic goes insane and Luka goes insane, the Nuggets win.

I'm just saying that if Luka has that few guys in the league that's like they could control a series if they just play out of their minds. That's where his ceiling is. I hope he does. Okay. Yeah, I think that the Nuggets have even like four of those guys where if they have, they're capable of having incredible nights and when they do, they're probably going to win. I just think that the Nuggets have too much talent for the Mavericks. Okay, hockey, the Avs fought back.

People said that there's been injuries with the Avs, and I was wrong to say to crown the Stars. I still think the Stars are going to win this series. I said that. I said to look out for the Avs. But my opinion is solely based on spitting cheeklets. Yeah, that's right. That was pre-playoffs opinion.

No, it was pre-this series opinion. Oh, OK. Before the series, I said it's going to go seven. Mine's pre-playoffs opinion from Ryan Whitney saying's pre this series. Okay before the series Playoffs opinion from Ryan Whitney saying the stars are the best team Yeah stars are but but also these two teams like this whoever wins the series might they're probably gonna be the favorite to come out of the West. Yeah okay, so We should talk about the NFL schedule release. We finally have the schedule release. I Have a real old man yells at cloud take.

I think Hank agrees with me. I don't know where you are, PFT. Are you talking about teams getting too cute with it? I'm talking about the entire thing. I'm talking about the leaks. I'm talking about the intentional leaks, the unintentional leaks, the release of the release of the schedule.

I'm kind of over all of it I actually wish the NFL would go to a system where we don't even know when it's coming out and it's just a Random Tuesday afternoon the schedule is out because the surprise of it would be awesome. This just feels like it's gotten to a point where it's so Everyone's like I got to be cute Every team accounts got gotta be cute. And we know so much of the schedule before the schedule even gets put out there that the moment just doesn't...

Like, seven o'clock hit. I had known the bear schedule for, what, seven hours? So what we have to do is we have to have fake releases that come out, so that way you can't trust in the leaks that you see. But, or just, I'm'm saying like 11 o'clock like if Schefter hadn't tweeted this last week, and I know they have to make it entertainment, they have to make a TV show, I get it, it's never going to change. But I think it would rock if at like 11 o'clock on this week, Tuesday,

you just got a tweet from the NFL being like schedules are out, go check your schedule out now. It's like holy shit Yeah from a fan perspective also It would be electric if they just announced next week schedule during that break between the afternoon games and Sunday Night Football Yeah, we said the selection show so just yeah, but it's every week Yeah Every week you get to determine you get to figure out who you're playing the next week then then you have like Even if you lose your game on Sunday, and you're depressed because your team just lost,

you get to have someone to look forward to, like let's find out who we're playing tonight. It would never happen because of travel and all that. But it's become a big production. Yeah. For sure, I honestly did not know why they had a big show around the schedule release, because the event is the schedules out there.

That's like a one and done thing. Right. It's like, then you sit and you go event is the schedules out there. That's that's like a one and done thing. Right. It's like you then you sit and you go through all the schedules. You talk about your favorite matchups over the course of the season to me that it feels like it's a big production, but that's what the NFL does. Right. And they're like we can we can dominate one more night of the week in the middle of May. Yeah, let's let's just pull all of our marketing initiatives, put it into that. And then all the team accounts do it because obviously social impressions mean a lot

to the value of the team. Right. So it becomes, yeah, it's like prom, it's third prom. Well, what it is, I was on with our guys, Randy and Bill today on Pittsburgh Radio and we were talking about the schedule release and how it's gotten so crazy. It's essentially the NFL just has stepped on our drugs

so much and we just keep taking it. They're like, hey, we're gonna just, we're gonna make you watch the schedule release in the middle of May. Hey, we're gonna make you watch Friday football in Brazil. Hey, how about Wednesday football? They're throwing the baby powder, all that, and we're like, yeah, fine, we'll take it.

Yeah, I'll take all of it. Give it to us. I'll take all of it, yeah. And yeah, you're're right the announcement of when the schedule will be released the build-up to the release the leaks into the release if you just if it you got to dial it back Mark Cuban said pigs get fed hogs get slaughtered right turns out he was kind of wrong on that cuz the NFL is doing really really good. Actually from that moment on it's gone like so

much bigger and also hogs are delicious yes i eat a hog i don't eat a pig slaugering hogs great the fatter the better yeah but um yeah it does feel like they're getting they're getting high on their own supply a little bit but you know what in the spot we're gonna keep consuming that shit right like i'm i hate being in the spot where i'm like ah this is too much because it's just I hate being in the spot where I'm like, ah, this is too much because it's just, the being the cynical guy sucks, but it just felt a little too much. Well, I feel like in the past, it seemed forced this year where it seemed like there was a mandate from every team

to try and do something really creative. In the past, it was like, some teams would just release their schedules, some teams would do something funny, some teams would just do like a generic, you know, schedule release video. This year, it was everyone seemed to be like, you know, you have a budget and do something crazy. And some of them were so corny that it was like, this is bad. And some of them, but the

Patriots one was, Patriots one was okay. Edelman killed it. Yeah. Ron killed it. Patriots, Patriots was great. The Patriots one was great. The Chargers obviously are the gold standard. The Titans did something great last year and like let's run it back. I love that. Yeah, that's fine. It worked, let's do it again. Stavi, we love Stavi, that was great.

There were so many though that were just confusing. It's cause there's 32 of them and they all come out at the exact same time. Right, like you were in the Cowboys one, I was in the Packers one. I didn't understand the Packers one at all. It's such a sad thing for this podcast that our biggest rivals just call us up and they're like, Hey, Hey, you guys are such losers that we want to use your face in our marketing initiative. No, it was one

though. Like they used to, I didn't understand. I was, I was getting confused cause they used, they did two people per game. No. Some of them. Well no we play so the commanders play against the Cowboys twice and so they had me and RG3 I went first no big deal. Was it your home game or theirs? I like the Lions. I think I was the home game. For the Cowboys? I was the commander's home game. Oh that's. Against them., RG3 doesn't do so well on the FedEx field turf. I'm pretty sure for the Lions they had someone like Jerry Jones calling someone from the Lions, then right after Tim and Post Malone calling someone from the Lions. My personal friend Post, yeah.

So it was a little confusing. Yeah, there were some confusing videos out there. In years he had a pack of schedules. It made no sense. I was watching for you. Please show up soon. It was Joe Buck and me back to back. It was I was thinking about a PFT because I wrestled with it. I actually didn't know you were doing the Cowboys until I was I basically walked around this office being like, should I do this? I feel like they're going to set

me up. And then Hank was like, well, he's doing the Cowboys once you might as well. But I'm okay with not being asked by the Bears because I'm honest about the Bears. I've said some things about the Bears that the Bears probably don't like. There's probably people in the building that are like, that guy has said some things about ownership, about the team, about the franchise, whatever.

Packers, I've just been, I hate their fucking guts, and they know that, and so it's like, all right, we can let this guy say that he hates their fucking guts. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was a cool thing to be involved with, but at the same time, it was like, the Cowboys are just, they know that they have dominated the commanders recently and they want me to be the face of losers.

And I'm happy to do that. I was negotiating with the Packers like it was a terrorist negotiation because they hit me up and immediately I said no. And they're like, well, let us just send you the idea. They sent me the idea and I was like, I'm not going to do it like this. I'm going to do it my way. I'm going to send you a video if you want to use it.

Fine. That's good. I was like, I'm just going to say fuck you guys because I can't do it any other way. I wasn't going to play the Cowboys a little game. Oh no, the Cowboys. Oh, I can't believe they're I put on my Dan Quinn backwards hat. Yeah. And I was like, we got your leader. They edited that that out probably smart on their part. Yeah, but yeah, I think they edited out me saying

I hope Jordan love gets hit by a bus. Yeah, it's probably smart. Listen, we're gonna fight fire with fire Say iron sharpens iron. We've made we made your team work a little bit harder for that release I liked what the Chargers did with the Sims I had an idea for the Chargers that I think that they should have used they should have had Connor Stallions on a twitch stream Hmm on Expedia looking up tickets and game time looking up like flights and tickets To all their opponents the week before the Chargers were gonna play them Oh, that would have been good or if you want to dial it back the Chargers should have had Harbaugh just hand him the schedule and just have Harbaugh read the schedule into the camera

Yeah, and just pure Harbaugh. Yeah, just get that but yeah, they were good next year We should probably make our own cheesy schedule release Part of my take schedule is Monday. Monday. Wednesday. Yeah, Friday. I also they do during the day Yeah, I don't know that way it was definitely not prime time. Like every team was like tonight, eight o'clock teaser. Like they, they, they over-hyped it. I know. I hate being, I just really hate cause it was a fun thing where you're right, Hank. It was the perfect mix of like say half the league just released their schedule and half the league tried something. Now everyone's trying something and so many of them don't

hit that. You're like, this is weird. They're gonna know They're gonna end up doing it like staggered where okay NFC East all their teams release a schedule at 7 p.m Yeah, AFC East 715. It's gonna be like the bracket show. Yeah This is you know, my first real season just accepting being a huge loser fan. Oh You're actually accepting it. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's going to be a long season and I had the realization that I was, I loved the video so much. I was like, this is going to be the highlight of the year. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to start looking forward to this day. I know. And like November, I'm going to look back and be like, ah, that's not true. Remember when we like how funny this was? That's not true for Drake mays.

Like first long bomb will be the highlight of your year Yeah, but no Hanks right. It's gonna be like, you know, we had four losing seasons in a row But you know what we won the Internet people were telling us we won the Internet sir. Oh, you are a loser now I know. Yeah, that is the biggest loser thing cuz I've been there. I know. Yeah, we're winning the offseason. Oh nothing better Hang the banner. Oh, yeah, you're gonna start fantasizing about like wide receiver free agents. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna be looking at tanking or not tanking. But like, it's gonna be I'll be watching college football probably closer than ever before this year. I thought that the Panthers should have had David Tepper just walking around up to people that were wearing different like different strangers

wearing hats of all their teams and going up and taking their hats off them and then showing it to the camera. Week one, that would have been good. Throwing drinks, what if they just threw a drink in someone's face and then the logo came up? Yeah, I like that too. Yeah. As for the actual schedule,

we had the top 10 easiest schedules this year, which I guess we kind of knew because we already knew the opponents, but Falcons, Chargers, Bears, Jets, Saints memes we are by the way. Do you want to talk real quick about the pervert sicko Henry Lockwood and what he's going to probably do to us this year? Because the Jets and the Bears first two months are very winnable and then they get difficult. So the ride that we could potentially go on here means is quite something. If we beat the Niners, it's yeah. Yeah, we could start five now. Monday night. Have you

as the as the FBI reached out to yet means not yet because only if he gets season ending injury then. So you've got you went from being like super depressed threatening to strap a bomb on your chest two days ago to now you're like we're gonna win that game. If, if. He said if. I'm just saying if. 49ers are really fucking good. And the Jets do I think they have six primetime games but they also do start with the easier schedule. The Bears start, we don't play a division game until week 10. And we have some very winnable games in the first two months.

No primetime though. What do you mean? Or no, like, I guess they have the London and... Well, no, week two, Sunday Night Football against C.J. Stroud in Texas. Is there any other primetime though? Yeah, the Bears have a Monday night football game against the Vikings and they have London and then Thursday night against the Seahawks

and Lions Thanksgiving Day. And all the flex- I did think we would get like one or more, or two more Monday night footballs. Did the flex scheduling become more complicated this off season? Because they put out the rules for like which games can be flexed.

It felt like there were like, I don't know, like four or five different scenarios where it's like, I'm not sure. Weeks six through 10, you can do this weeks 11 through 17. You can do two of these unless one is taken earlier. It was, it was very complicated to follow, but I think it's good that you have the opportunity. If there is a big injury, like there was last year with Aaron Rogers, like I would prefer not to have to watch the Jets in prime time all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

And the three of us play in a little round robin. You don't play the Patriots, right? I don't play the Patriots. Yeah, but you play the Bears and then two weeks later the Patriots play the Bears. And then in terms of hardest schedules, it is, I had it right here, hold on. It is the Steelers, the Patriots, the Browns, the Vikings, and the Ravens. Yeah, yeah, so.

Of the five hardest schedules. So a lot of AFC North teams in that, in the hardest schedule, because they're all very good. The last nine weeks for the Steelers are absolutely brutal. Yeah. So the last nine weeks for the Steelers are absolutely brutal Yeah, so the last nine weeks for the Steelers the commanders the Ravens the Browns the Bengals the Browns the Eagles The Ravens the Chiefs this the Bengals again. Yeah, I just tossed the commanders in there the It's really the last eight weeks last eight weeks are the hardest stretch by far And this is the fun time where everyone goes through their schedule and they're like,

oh, this is a realistic thing. And guess what? All of it is going to be irrelevant by week two. Yeah. Because every team that you think is going to be bad is going to be good. And every team that's going to be good is going to be bad. And there's going to be six QB injuries. But I've done it, I think, four different times already in my head,

going through the Bears schedule. So I'm not poo-pooing it. Everyone should do this. Just remember that what you're doing is just an exercise to get you closer to football. That's true, that's true. This is how we pass the time in the off-season. And the NFL's also using the Chiefs

as like their big experiment. They have the Chiefs playing on every night of the week, except for Tuesday. Now we'll watch. And we'll watch it every single time. That's what I'm saying. They step on our drugs, but they give us a little bit of the Chiefs. A little bit of of the chiefs and you've got the Swifties that are gonna be signing

Up for all these streaming services. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that most Swifties out there They're they're well acquainted with all the streaming services. Yeah, and we and also everyone's gonna tune in to see Harrison Bucker Yeah, Harrison Bucker He's quite something. He's something. He's something else that guy guy. I don't know why anyone has not just had the take of, he's their kicker? Who cares? Yeah, so. Why are we listening to a kicker?

It was weird that he did that at a college commencement. Yeah. To be like, hey, your most important role is actually going to be just being a homemaker. Yeah. So you should do that. Also, just his whole vibe, I had never really gotten a good look at Harrison Bucker before

He looks exactly like the guy from the meme that just says yes all the time. Yeah, the blonde hair guy Yeah, that's him. I think he styled his own image He's crafted in the likeness of that guy because he appreciates what that guy stands for. He also has got some weird Like almost like he could be a Civil War general beard going. Yeah. Do you remember that? Was it General Andrew Luck? Yes.

General Harrison Bucker? Yeah. He's a kicker but also like slightly misogynistic. If you're Patrick Holmes you have to be a little pissed here, right? Like your kicker shouldn't be making headlines. Yep. That's just a fact. I agree.

You should not have your kicker being in controversies whatsoever. Do you think the 49ers kickers said something slightly less problematic, like 10 minutes before Harrison Bucker got on stage and did it? Yeah, that would be great. But yeah, that was a, I never thought Harrison Bucker debates

would be how we spend an entire week. Also just his name has butt in it. Yeah. So that's fun. He's probably, that's probably what he's overcompensating for. Yeah, yeah. Something there I mean that would the beard the the speech

The name the kicker position. He's it feels like he's like hey Harrison. It's okay, man Not sure you're we're sure you're strong like you're it's okay You can be confident in yourself nothing says masculinity like like a kicker who met his wife in middle school band practice. Mm. Ha ha ha. Harrison Bucker. It was funny, though.

He did start to cry when he talked about meeting his wife in band. That's nice. And then she converted for him, which was cool. Honestly, they probably have a very happy marriage. Yeah. So happy for him. Good for them.

But yeah, you can let other people live their life how they want to live their life And again, it was a kicker. Yeah kicker taking is like really good kickers Mike Vanderjagt all over. Yeah, we're It's we don't need to take advice from kickers. Mm-hmm. No offense kickers, but all offensive Do you think you're gonna have again back to the Swifties? They're gonna be tuning in they're rooting for the Chiefs They're probably gonna hate this fucking fucking guy. He actually quoted Taylor Swift earlier in the commencement speech, which is, if he did that on purpose, that's a very funny troll to do a Taylor Swift quote

and then follow it up with all that. They're going to be rooting for the Chiefs, but also rooting for this guy to miss field goals. Yeah, they might root for, they might actually, the Swifties might try to get the Chiefs disbanded. Yeah. Yeah, that's, if you're a Chiefs fan, if you're Taylor Swift, a recently made Chiefs fan who

was started as a Swiftie, you have a lot of questions. And honestly, because we do have a lot of Swifties that listen to the show. We've been pretty fair and balanced, I think, about talking about her. Really, if Travis does not demand a trade from the Chiefs, it tells you a lot about his personal values, that he's willing to tolerate a teammate like that because terrible things happen when good people remain silent. And so far, I haven't heard

anything from Travis Kelsey about this. I'm going to say this right now. I officially will never sign with the Kansas City Chiefs as long as Harrison Bucker's on the team. Wow. Yeah. Powerful. I don't care what they offer me, what contract I'm not doing it. That's very powerful. I refuse. It's very powerful. You got to stand up for you. You got to stand up for something. I'm standing up for the women. Stand up for something. I'm standing up for all the Swifties. You'll fall for anything. Yeah. I

actually, people say we're misogynistic. I'm literally standing up. You know what? He's standing up. Do you see this? Do you see this? Hank, describe what you're looking at right now. I'm looking at a large man standing up, holding his arms out. Jesus Christ. Well, so stand up. I'll stand up with you. Let's go. P F. I'll stand up with a big cat. We're standing up for the Swifties right now. I'm pretty tired. Yes. That's understandable. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. You don't have to stand up. Do you see they put the up for the Swifties right now tired yes that's understandable yeah okay that's fine you don't stand up do you see they put the Chiefs in Buffalo the same week that Taylor Swift is performing in Toronto I did not see two-hour drive away people are saying that was done on

purpose oh wow the saying that might be a bridge too far if they did that on purpose if we're bending the schedule around Taylor Swift if that's actually something that's happening that might be too far for me. Yeah. But they said it's coincidence. We get accused of glazing a certain person a lot, but I'll say that we forgot to mention that his video was very funny as well. Did you guys see it?

Yeah, Josh. He went to the pit. He went to the pit. He lived in the pit. The pit is great. He had very good comedic timing. The pit knows all. Where's the pit?

Where they're building the new stadium. Oh. Yeah, he had a tent in there and it was funny. It's the Bill's equivalent of the lighthouse except it's much, much cooler. And it's an actual pit. It's basically wood stock. That's where they sacrifice someone before every game. Correct. That's where people just, it's like a siren song that lures tailgaters from Bill's Mafia to just go down to the pit and check it out. Correct. And then that one guy went down there and shit all over himself. Yeah. I like that. OK, let's get to our interviews.

We got Randy Moss. And then we've got Pat Conantin in studio. Also, apologies for the birds in the first five minutes of the Randy Moss interview. He was, I think he was just doing the interview with a bird. But he wanted us to see Mystic Dan. And you'll get to see Mystic Dan including some extra.

Little bonus. Yeah, but before that. Oh, one other thing with the schedule release. Did you see the hardcore porn that was on X last night? Yeah, oh yeah. In all the replies. Yeah, it's everywhere. Like it got turned, I think it got turned up.

No, I mean, you couldn't avoid it. No, I know. I saw Butthole. Yeah. Butthole was everywhere on Twitter last night. Teams were just trying to announce their schedule you click on it You see the replies get the real takes down there and then there's just a butthole in your face. Yeah Credit to Roger Goodell Hank. I'm on it. Okay, it's been a while. I Mean there was butthole a lot of but if you see butthole you're gonna notice butthole. That's a fact

Hey, you got that on the list? If you see butthole you're gonna notice butthole. That's a fact. Thank you got that on the list Okay There was a lot of butthole. There was butthole. Yeah, are you expecting us not to not to see the butthole? I saw it. I just didn't that's just what Twitter is now. I didn't think twice about there's nudes in profile I get that there's pussy in bio no, I felt like in some of like when I go looking for like Drake and Kendrick stuff like The shit that's in there is people getting pounded. Yeah straight up pounded

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what has happened. I got, I didn't hear from you for, I don't know, like 24 hours to the point that I was using my contacts to talk to your producers at NBC to make sure that you were okay. You just lost your phone. That's all it was, right? I left my phone on the rental car bus at BWI Airport. Someone put it in their pocket and I tracked them all the way to Pleasanton, California. I've got their address. I've got their name, but no luck. So I had to get a new phone. That's why you couldn't reach me. Okay, so you want us to roll up on them? Yeah, we can roll up. Please do. Okay. Okay.

I'll send you their address when we get off the, we get off the air here. Okay. So you're, you're joining us from the, it looks like the paddock right there behind where the horses are at in Baltimore at the Preakness. Um, we have a lot of questions. Should we start with the secretariat stuff? Well, yeah, no, we were just going to ask who you're. I don't think we've ever asked you before who your goat is. Who's the goat in horse racing? Is it Manowar or is it Flightline? Look, it's impossible to say because comparing horses of different generations is so fraught with peril.

All I can do is just say, all right, of the horses that I've seen in my lifetime, right? Not necessarily in person, but you know, the Secretariat would be the goat. Would definitely be the goat. And you know, Flightline, Spectacular Bid, there's other horses that had a tremendous amount of ability. American Pharaoh, but Secretariat did so many things during his two year career that he would be the goat. Randy, is there a bird inside of your phone right now?

I okay right behind me is the hedge. That's where all the birds are. Alright we should walk away from there because it sounds like it's inside of your phone. The yellow you see behind me right there is Mystic Dan Saddletown. Mystic Dan the derby runner is right back in there. This is the Freakness barn. Okay can we say? Mystic Dan the derby winner is right back in there. This is the freakness barn Yeah walk walk away from the hedges

That but we see I know you you did it for us because you wanted us to see mystic Dan But it sounds like a bird climbed into your phone Okay, can we just can we just say congratulations to mystic Dan real quick? Oh, yeah second Congratulations to mystic Dan real quick. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hang on. Let's say congratulations All right, good boy. Yeah, who's a good give him a boop? Oh, there you go. Oh, there he is a mystic Dan Oh, that's a butt crack I didn't know they had plumbers that worked at the Preakness Great five seconds of PMT history. Right. There you go. That was a, that was something that you see. That's something you'd seen

a reply to a schedule release on Twitter right there. Yeah, that was great. So, all right. So to secretariat, all right. He did steroids. Okay. That's yeah, that's a firestorm of controversy here right now through Jason Kelsey. And then I weighed in as well. Um, there's the firestorm of controversy here right now through Jason Kelsey and then I weighed in as well. There's no way to know for a fact, right? Although you know, look, steroids were rampant in thoroughbred racing in the 1970s, I'm told, in the 1980s, I know, in the 90s, I know, in the 2000s, I know, all the way up until, let's say, Big Brown in 2008.

If you remember, huge controversy when Rick Dutrow, the trainer of Big Brown, after winning the Kentucky Derby in the Preakness, was just asked point blank by a reporter. This was right in the middle of the baseball controversies, right, with Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds. Does Big Brown, is he on steroids? And Rick Duttrow, being very honest, said yes, he's on anabolic steroids. Pretty much all the horses are on anabolic steroids, right? Back then, trainers believed that the therapeutic benefits of anabolic steroids outweighed any of the negatives. And they didn't really view anabolic steroids as that much of a performance enhancer. They viewed it as, you know, helping horses recover

after races, recover after injuries, increasing their appetite, helping put on muscle mass, and all that. So, look, Secretariat was running at a time where I'm told anabolic steroid use was rampant in thoroughbred racing. When Secretariat was retired, he had some immature sperm that was a concern to breeders. That happens to be a side effect of anabolic steroid use. Does that mean he was definitely on steroids? No. When he died, he had the autopsy and he had an enlarged heart, which again is a side effect, one of the side effects of anabolic steroids. So, you know, there is a, I think,

a pretty strong possibility that Secretariat was racing on anabolic steroids, but here's the deal. So were the other horses he was running against. Right. If Secretariat was on anabolic steroids, you know Sham was. It wasn't just Lucian Laura and the trainer of Secretariat that had access to this stuff. He won the triple crown. He set track records in all three races that still stand. And they held up through the 70s, through the 80s, through the 90s, through the 2000s when anabolic steroid use was rampant. So it doesn't really, might he have run a little faster with the anabolic steroids?

Yes. Does it taint his legacy in any way? To me, no, because he was an incredibly dominant racehorse against all competition. One of the most incredibly dominant racehorses in the history of the game at a time when pretty much all the horses were running on that stuff. Yeah. It's like Barry Bonds. Yeah.

The records will still stand. He was going up against some shady competition at the time, but he was far and away the best baseball player that I've ever seen. And so nothing should change that. I did make my four-year-old son, Chris, change his wallpaper on his iPhone. He had to take down Secretariat. I think I'm going to allow him to put it back up. We can forgive Secretariat if that's what he did, because everybody else was doing it at the same time. And in my eyes, it does not taint that accomplishment. So thank you

for explaining that to us. That was a very fair response. I think it's a very, very fair response. It's almost sacrilegious, right? People think to say anything that could be construed as negative about Secretariat. But it's just, you know, you have to be honest about this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. The birds are back. Do you want to walk closer to the parking lot? Go to the parking lot. All right. So, all right, let's talk about this race. Let's talk about Mystic Dan. That was an incredible Kentucky Derby. Very, very thrilling. Uh, I, you, I'm an idiot. I, my name is Dan and I should have bet Mystic Dan. You told us that if there was one horse that would, you know, surprise everyone was Mystic Dan. I do believe that if I bet Mystic Danny would have probably

finished last, but, uh, how are we feeling about Mystic Dan now going to the Preakness? Everyone wants to see a triple crown winner. Muth, the favorite Bob Baffert's horse is out fever. So what's the story with Mystic Dan? Is this horse legit have a chance at winning the triple crown? And is it quickly like a, hey, he won it as an 18 to one, but this is a real good horse. Okay, look, he got what we call in horse racing, a perfect trip in the Kentucky Derby. He was sitting on the rail all the way around. He got through on the inside at the top of the stretch.

He ran a shorter distance than the competition, but he also had the acceleration, had the guts to go through a tight hole when the time came. All right? A lot of horses get perfect trips and they sit along the rail and then a hole opens up and they're not fast enough to get through the hole. Mystic Dan had that quick acceleration to shoot through that opening at the top of the stretch that Brian Hernandez steered him through and open up a lead and just barely hang on. Was he a better horse than Sierra Leone or Forever Young? Probably not.

Almost certainly not because they covered a lot more ground and it was also a lot of bumping through the stretch that we can talk about if you want because the Churchill Lown Steward totally dropped the ball on that. Yeah. So, okay. You know, a bit for those reasons. And plus now he's got to come back in two weeks, which trainer Ken McPeak was saying not too good, not too enthusiastic about doing. I think he's a bet against. Okay. Going to be a shorter price than it should be because he won the Kentucky Derby. He got a perfect trip, which he's probably not going

to get Saturday. He's coming back in two weeks. You know, for all those reasons, would I be shocked to see him win? No, but from a betting standpoint, I think he's a bet against. He ran the perfect race. It's unlikely that he'll have a perfect race that unfolds in front of him again. That makes total sense to me. So what about the bumping down the stretch that you talked about? What happened there? Okay. We all knew, and we talked about this on the telecast several times, Sierra Leone, the horse that finished second in the derby, has a longstanding habit of veering to his left as he comes down the stretch. As you're you're watching the race, you're watching it would be to your right,

to his left as he's coming down the wire. He's done that in almost all his races. Tyler Gaff-Leon knows it. Chad Brown, the trainer knew it. And at the top of the stretch, he pulled up next to the Japanese horse, Forever Young, and he pretty much mugged Forever Young, the entire length of the stretch.

And then as they hit the wire in a three-horse photo finish, the jockey of Sierra Leone, Tyler Gaff Leon, appeared to temporarily lose his balance with all the bumping and reached out and put his hand on the Japanese horse as the horses got to the wire. What happened in the run through the stretch with Sierra Leone, you know, repeatedly bumping and mugging for Ever Young, look, that's an elementary school disqualification. When you reach out and you put your hand on another horse, that's an elementary school disqualification. When all this happens, do you put up the inquirypery sign? That's an elementary school decision. The

stewards didn't at Churchill Downs. They blew it badly on all three counts. And all I can say is that Churchill Downs and its 150th celebration is incredibly lucky that Sierra Leone didn't win that race by a nose because it would have been one of the biggest controversies in the history of the Kentucky Derby that the stewards left the number up and didn't disqualify. So what's the process? They got lucky. What's the process for that? Is there any accountability? Have people asked them about it? Like why didn't you at least take another look at it? You know, there could be accountability with the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission if there

was a challenge by the connections of the Japanese horse, okay? Which is unlikely to happen. I think it's a cultural thing. They feel like they're guests in this country. After the running of the race, the jockey of Forever Young, Sakai, who speaks no English, had a conversation with the other Japanese jockey in the race on TO Password who finished fifth, who does speak some English, as they were walking back to the jocks room about claiming foul.

And at that point, I mean, it's, you know, the Japanese writer was told it's pretty much too late. So it was a language barrier as much as anything as to why there wasn't a foul claim, but there didn't need to be a foul claim. The stewards can put the inquiry sign up, can see what's going on. And it was such a no brainer decision. And they just blew it. Wow. Completely blew it. Yeah. Okay. Well, hopefully we don't have to look. There was 70, there was 75, I'm sorry to interrupt you there was 75 million dollars, right? wagered on exact as

trifectas and superfectas in the Kentucky Derby in which the second and third place order of finish was paramount Yeah, there was a five hundred thousand dollar difference I believe in purse money between the second and the third place finishers. So it sounds so it was an expensive Yeah, maybe everyone just boxed it and that's why there weren't people upset. Yeah. And it's, that's like, that could be the reason. Yeah. It's like the Japanese trains are being too polite. There's a lot of gamblers in America that aren't known for being super polite about that sort of thing. Maybe class action lawsuit against, uh, against the Kentucky Derby. Well, I mean, look, they're very, they're extremely lucky. I don't know if it's just 150th anniversary karma or whatever.

You know, this is a mini controversy because it doesn't involve the winner, Mystic Dan. You don't, you haven't read much about this in the media or anything like that. But trust me, if it was Sierra Leone that had crossed the wire two or three inches further ahead and won the race in a photo, it would be absolute chaos right now with the controversy. So we talked about the photo finish and how electric the photo finishes and we were like, what did they do before there was a photo finish? Big Cat brought up a good point, which is that he thinks that probably the photo finish

was invented for a horse race. Yeah, the photograph started just for sports racing or for horse racing for gamblers. So before there was a photo finish, was there just one guy up in a stand with binoculars and whatever he said, that would be the winner? Three guys. Placing judges is what they're known as. And they still exist in thoroughbred racing for other purposes generally. But if in the event that the photo finish camera malfunctions in some way, then it's the placing judges that will determine between the three

of them what the correct order of finish was. Wow. That's cool. Fast eyes. Okay. So let's talk about the preakness. So you said bet against Mystic Dan. who's the bet on? And I had a question about one of the horses, Uncle Heavy, because Irad Ortiz got on him and it's like, I'm kind of doing the Brian Winn horse. Like, why is Irad getting on a 20 to one horse? Is there something to be said there?

So break it down for us. All right, so we've established that, at least I think, that Mystic Dan is going to be over bet. And so therefore, and for all the other reasons that he's a bet against, okay. It's very evenly matched between Mystic Dan, Imagination, who's the other Bob Baffert remaining horse, Moose got sick. He would have been the favorite in the race, and so he's not going to run. But Baffert still has imagination. He'll probably set the pace. Catching Freedom ran forth in the Kentucky Derby, but he also had a rail trip. He also had a very good inside trip. To me, the bet in the Preakness is a horse called Tuscan Gold, trained by Chad Brown.

Okay, right now, I believe he's 8-1 in the program line. I think that's a little too generous. I don't think he's going to be 8 to 1, but he ran a really good third in the Louisiana Derby. And there's kind of a pattern here with trainer Chad Brown, right? He had Sierra Leone, he had domestic product in the Kentucky Derby. Chad has hit upon a little system now over the last decade or so where he takes horses that skip the Kentucky Derby and he points instead to the Preakness. Cloud computing followed that formula, won the Preakness. Early voting followed that formula, won the Preakness. Last year, Blazing Sevens, who looked like there was no way he was good enough to win

the Preakness, finished a really good, really strong second, barely beaten by National Treasure. So now Chad has this horse, Tuscan Gold, who was third in the Louisiana Derby, and immediately after that race, he said, this is my Preakness horse. This is the horse I'm pointing for for this year's Preakness. And on numbers, he's just as good as Mystic Dan, in my opinion. He's just as good as Catching Freedom and Imagination, and he should be a higher price.

So I think that, to me, that's the best. Yeah. What about Uncle Heavy, though? I read on that. Uncle Heavy is, he deserves to be about 20 to one. Okay. Right, I mean, I read Ortiz is on him because it's really the only option he had to ride in the Preakness.

And if you have a chance to, it's a horse race. I know anything can happen. I read, arguably, he's definitely one of the best two or three jockeys in America. So why not take a shot? He probably doesn't think he's got much of a chance to win, but at least he's in there. I feel like we ask this every time,

but what's a long shot that we could have finishing second or third if we want to get spicy with it with a trifecta or something? Just steel, I think would probably be the spiciest long shot in there. And look, he ran terribly in the Kentucky Derby, but leaving the starting gate, he got bounced around a lot at the start. His young jockey, Keith Asmisson, stepped on the gas, coming down the stretch the first time and the horse rushed up and was involved in a fairly swift early pace and then completely backed out. Wayne Lucas, the trainer, didn't like the ride.

Changing jockeys to Joel Rosario. He'll get a little bit more of a patient ride. And if he runs the same way he did in his race before that, which was second to Muth in the Arkansas Derby, then he would have a chance to hit the board at a pretty good price. Okay. And now the black-eyed Susan on Friday, which everyone should watch. Randy will be on the call.

I mean, you nailed the Oaks. We should have started with that. You gave us some bullets for the Derby. You absolutely nailed the Oaks. You also did tell us Mystic Dan. So you were, you won all the AWL's money, no pressure, but Black Eyed Susan and maybe any other races that you like that you've been circling. All right. Black Eyed Susan, I like a filly named Gun Song. She's not one of the top two favorites or so. There's a little bit of a question about the mile and an eighth distance with her and a

little bit of a question the trader Mark Henig has about the mile and an eighth for her. But if she runs one of her best races, she's the best horse in the field. And I think she could be four to one, nine to two. So that's not a bad return on a Philly like Gunsong. And then on, that's Friday, obviously, in the Black Eyed Susan. And then on, hang on a second, I dropped my paper. Then on Saturday, there we go, in the 11th race, it's a race called the Jim McKay Turf Sprint, five eighths of a mile on the grass. There is a horse, the number eight horse in the race, and he's called Boats A Rockin'. And right now he's six to one on the program line.

I don't expect to get six to one again, maybe nine to two, four to one. But to me on paper, he looks like the best horse in the race. And if it rains like it's supposed to rain during the day, you know, Saturday morning and, and some of the afternoon, he's proven that he can handle the turf horse that has a little bit of moisture. So there you go. Wait, if it rains, is that not that's in favor of Mystic Dan, right? Because this is

if it's a muddy track, you're right. But it would be a little bit of a, of an advantage to Mystic Dan just because he has proven that he can handle it. But I still, I still would, would be betting against him. Yeah. And it would be, if Mystic Dan somehow does pull this off, then we get a couple of weeks of everyone saying this is an asterisk because the Belmont's going to be a shorter distance, which I don't know if that's good or bad for horse racing. I don't, I don't know. I think any triple crown, obviously any triple crown bid is good for horse racing, but it will

be interesting if it happens. Yeah. And it's a legitimate asterisk and it, and they didn't have to do it. Yeah, they're running obviously they're running the Belmont stakes this year at Saratoga. Okay. The Belmont Park oval is largest in America largest dirt oval in America. It's a mile and a half a mile and a half around. So it's very easy to run the Belmont stakes at the mile and a half distance. At Saratoga, the oval's only a mile and an eighth around. So if they ran the Belmont at a mile and a half at Saratoga, they would have to start at midway around the stretch turn. They would have to start the race on a turn, which is not ideal.

And that's the reason why instead they're starting the race at the top of the stretch and they're making it a mile and a quarter. But when Belmont Park was last under reconstruction in the 1960s, the Belmont snakes was run at aqueduct, which likes Saratoga, it's the same circumference, mile and an eighth. They started the Belmont snakes on the turn in those years to keep it at the mile and a half distance and there were no problems. So look, I think Belmont Park, New York Racing Association has been using the excuse of tradition as a reason not to change the spacing of the Triple Crown races, which is causing problems

for the continuity of the series. And now here they are completely turning tradition upside down and running the Belmont steaks at a mile and a quarter instead of a mile and a half when they don't have to. It's interesting and I think it's wrong. At a different track, it's not the same. It's a different race. They're just putting the branding for the Belmont on it. Right. I mean, it's still the Belmont steaks, but it is at a different track by necessity. The distance to me is the big problem there, and I think it deserves to have an asterisk. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Randy, this is why we like you. You tell it like it is.

Yeah. No sugarcoating. Give us the honest truth. America's horse analyst. Yeah. Okay. Last question for you, Randy. It's a row back question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Well, I just want to say, I think that we need to have you on in football season this year because you obviously covered the NFL as well. It's a mistake by us. It's too long to go a whole year without Randy Moss. So we will make sure

that we do that this year. My last question though is can we see Mystic Dan's ass again? Let's try. Let's see what we got here. Now you might get some birds chirping. That's okay. Bring the bird back. I would like to see this guy's ass again. I could probably do better than showing you Mystic Dan's ass although he's in the back of the stall right now. Let me see here. Let me get under here. All right. I'm going to turn this iPad around. Okay.

So you can get a nice shot of him. You walk it around with an iPad? Yeah. Yeah. I have an iPad. We lost his phone. Yeah, that's true. There's the saddle towel, right with an iPad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I lost his phone. Yeah. There's the saddle towel. Right. See that good. Yeah. Oh, there he is. Yeah. Yeah. There he sees there. You see his ass. Only one ass this time. Yeah. We had Miss Dan's ass on. There we go. All right. We'll go get a mystic Dan. Congratulations. Mystic Dan. I hope it rains for you. I feel like somebody planted that bird right outside his area there so he's not going to get a good night's sleep. It's

like pulling a fire alarm the night before a playoff game. Yeah. Yeah. It's a Chad Brown brought those birds in and put them right outside of Mystic Dan's stall. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well Randy thanks so much. Everyone tune in. See Randy on the on the telecast and yeah we love having you on and we'll do it in the football season. Don't lose your phone anymore. I got actually worried. I was the football season. Don't lose your phone anymore. I got actually worried. I was actually worried. So don't lose your phone.

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Find the perfect travel experience for you. Do more with Viator. And now, here's Pat Conantin. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, it is NBA champion, Pat Conantin. Does that ever get old, by the way? Saying NBA, because you have to be introduced

as NBA champion. I know we had you on last time was right after you won. So it's been a couple years, does it get old? No, I mean, the couple years comment gets old. But the NBA champion title never gets old. Yeah, you guys haven't been out of the first round since. Yeah. Well, we get to the second round after.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. The last two years, we haven't gotten out of the first. But we're planning on fixing that sooner rather than later. Yeah, speaking of the championship, I think this is probably a good place to start, because I just saw a very funny interview with Jeff Teague. And he was talking about the aftermath of winning the championship and how he was like Let's fucking go. Let's party. Let's go to Vegas gas up the jet and then Yanis was like

I think I'm just gonna go home to my family Yeah, and then everybody else was like I guess I guess we're just gonna go home to yeah And that was kind of the end of the party is what I was gonna pay for it Well, cuz you can't you can't go to Vegas as the Bucs winning a ring, and everyone's just gonna be like, where's Giannis? Yeah, everyone wants to know where Giannis is a lot of the time. But I mean, Jeff, I think he lived it up. We did get to go to Greece.

So we did go to Greece with Giannis at the end of the summer. The thing that was interesting about that year was the championship was like July 21st. So it wasn't your typical, the next season was starting on time. So I think part of the reason it wasn't as climactic as Jeff wanted it to be was we only had like six weeks before we were back in the swing of things. So guys wanted to spend some time with their family. And then we went over to Greece and celebrated a little bit over there as a team. So you win the championship

and then you party for what? Like 24 hours, 12 hours. And then you're like, okay, that's gotta get my shots. Yeah. Well, the parade wasn't for like 36 hours, so I would say we at least got a solid 36 hours. That's good. Yeah, 100%. And we should have mentioned, you have the new dad glow, you, congratulations. 10 days old, as the time of this taping.

Are you scared? Are you ready? Yeah, no, I'm good. Do you have the moment already where the kid comes home and you're like, wait, no one gave me a manual for this? Yeah, I did. That's the scary moment. Yeah, that's the scariest part.

The drive home. Yeah. I'd say the drive home is the scary part, but I'm excited. And I think, you know, it's one of those things. The shock to me over the last 10 days has been when you wake up in the morning and you're like, oh, he's still here.

Yeah. You know, like I have a bunch of little cousins and stuff, so I've been around babies my whole life. I have a lot of fun with it, but I always give them back. Yeah. And now he's not going anywhere, which has been that surreal experience and that realization. And he's been a blessing, and it's

been something that Ryan and myself, we've enjoyed. And she's done a great job. So it's got to be a little different than me having kids where I'm like, I hope these kids are I hope they're smart Because you're not gonna be good athletes you your fiance is a professional athlete as well So are you like this is he's gonna be so sick at every sport. Yeah Well, I mean when he was literally born I put you know a toy basketball a toy baseball a toy soccer ball Football in his little bassinet thing. And she looks at him and she goes,

well, no pressure on the kid, huh? And I said, no, no, no, I'm telling him he can choose whatever sport he wants. Golf, we can throw a golf club in there. Yeah, whatever it wants to be, as long as it's a professional athlete. And it probably will be, yeah. No pressure, though.

Yeah, exactly, no, I think it's been, someone had a great comment for it yesterday, it'll come to me, but it was basically like, you know, we collected our genes and we just said, here, let's create this baby that has a chance to continue the things that we've done in our lives. You need to get Notre Dame to offer a scholarship right now. Yeah.

Always the school being like, we're ready to offer this 10-day-old. Yeah, I will say, he's already gotten a Wisconsin scholarship. He has. Yeah. You know, one of the, we were bad at in state recruiting right now. Yeah. Yeah. I know. One of the Wisconsin, uh, you know, mentors of mine, uh, has already said he has a full ride. He will be our starting coach back in 2020, 2044. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. All right. That's, I mean, let's keep them away from Marquette in terms of basketball. Yes. I mean, look, I'll get him an LL deal. You want to sign him up right now? Yeah. I

mean, has there, does he drink coffee? Not yet. He drinks a lot of milk. Yeah. All right. We'll get it. He's got milk still around. Yeah. Yeah. They used to have that. I would imagine that that having a newborn, you're doing a lot of Googling. Like, is this normal? What do I do when this happens? 100%. Google is helping you raise your child. Yeah. He's gotten hiccups a lot.

Yeah. Google tells you the hiccups are a good thing. I refuse to believe they're a good thing because he doesn't look comfortable every time he gets the hiccups right after he eats. Yeah. Here's a tip that I learned about when my son was around the same age, 10 days, whatever, two weeks. Don't drain the baby.

In what way? He started, I was feeding him once when he was two weeks old and he started puking and I held him upside down. And I was like, what are you doing? I was like, I don't know. I didn't want him to choke on it. And she's like, that's not what you do. Hold him over the sink and just shake him a little bit.

There's a video, there's a nanny camera of me literally holding him upside down being like, oh shit. trying to drain the baby. I have, he has started to, you know, get the hiccups and spit up right after he feeds. And I've done like the football hold with his head facing the ground. Like just get it out of you real quick. And I've gotten yelled at for it too.

They're like, no, you hold it straight up and you have them burp into the burp cloth. I'm like, well, yeah, that makes sense now that you say it out loud, but at the time, I wasn't thinking that. Our instincts are to treat it like your buddy in college who's had too many tequila shots. Throw him over a chair, throw him down on a chair.

I'll hold your hair, bro. I got this. Exactly, exactly. But we do have them in some Legends onesies. Oh, nice. Nice. Stylish baby. Yeah. What? Yeah, Legends onesies. Oh nice. Yeah. Stylish baby. Yeah.

What? Yeah, Legends onesies. Yeah, I'm gonna need some more. He's sped up on a few of them. But he's already been in a few. He likes to get, he seems to sleep better in those onesies. So the Scotty Scheffler question, if you were playing in the NBA finals

and your baby was due, would you miss a game? Yeah, what was your plan? Hypothetically. Well, I will say, it's what- You guys did lose in the first round though. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate that. Are you a Bucs fan? No, I hate the Bucs. I have a very mean joke that I'm not going to say. I just want to say for the record that I'm not saying I was going to pretend I was playing in the playoffs. I was going to say when you knew

that you were going to have a baby around the NBA playoffs and you hired Doc Rivers, we were like, yes. Yeah. That's a good joke. I didn't say it. He didn't say it. And I didn't say it. Yeah. Oh, well I love didn't say it. He didn't say it. He didn't say it. He didn't say it. Yeah. Well, I love Doc, so I'm a Doc guy, but I was also any coach guy. Anyone that's coaching me, I've been pretty good with.

Yeah. But would you have left the game in the NBA finals for- Well, it would have been easier for me because there's seven of them. There's seven games. Like Scottie Scheffler, there's only one Sunday at the Masters. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I've been told I can't miss the birth of my first child.

Yeah. By the way, that's a very smart answer. It's a hypothetical, so it's not happening. So yes, I definitely would have loved it. Well, it's not happening, at least with this child. Hopefully it'll happen in the future. Then it would mean we were out of the first round. Yeah, that's true.

I kind of wish I'd missed the birth of my first child because I was sitting in the hospital all day and I just started betting WNBA games and I went like 0 for 4. So he actually cost me money the day he was born. Still costing you money, didn't he? Yeah, right, exactly. But he cost you money before he was actually in Earth.

Yeah, before he was actually on Earth, he cost me money. All right, so obviously the season didn't go as planned. Yeah. How was this year for you? Because this was, I feel like, the first year where you were heavy in the trade rumors. Was it weird having to deal with that, being like, I don't know

what's going to happen? The deadline comes, and people are like, my name's getting floated around. How much does that affect playing on the court? It didn't really affect it for me. I think for me, I kind of understand how the business works. I understand from a GM's point of view, we only have so many guys that are tradable,

whether it's contract-based or tradable guys in general. And I think as a GM is trying to make the team better for a playoff push, he's only got so many pieces to the puzzle that he can move. And so being a part of those are kind of inevitable. And I kind of knew that when I signed this extension. Once you get to a certain contract range, I think you become a potential tradable asset, depending how you're playing, depending how the team's doing, et cetera.

And I know ending in the first, or losing in the first round last year to the Heat was going to spark some trade rumors, regardless of what kind of happened and transpired this year. But being like a positive guy, an optimist, I try to look at it the other way, it means some other teams want me.

True. Other teams want me to play for them. That's a good point. And the joke, the running joke that I make now is, you know, you talk about Coach Pop, he's got a tree of coaches, Coach Budd's got a tree of coaches now. Pat's got a network of coaches now that all the guys that are getting head jobs,

Charles Lee, congratulations to him. He was an assistant with us. Bud's back on the table. Taylor Jenkins was an assistant with us. We got a bunch of assistant coaches that have moved on to be head assistants in different places. So I'm hoping to have a job in the NBA. Yeah, that's actually a really good spin zone, where it's like all these guys who saw you win a title,

like in five years, you can be like, remember Pat? He's a good piece. We can definitely work with him. He's a great locker room guy. Making sure the culture of our team continues to rise with some of these young guys we're trying to build around. I can spin it with the best of them.

No, I think that's actually a realistic way to look at the NBA. A lot of people, obviously, you want to be secure in your job, you want to lay down roots, and you want to just be one place for as long as possible. But the reality is in sports, chances are you're probably going to have to move teams at some point. So the earlier you start to understand that and accept it and embrace the possibility, I think that's healthier for you mentally. If it does happen, it might not happen. You might just be in Milwaukee for a while and that'd be great. Yeah. But you got to plan for it. And you got to know it's possible. Just like you said,

if you accept the possibility of it, you're going to live a healthier lifestyle, in my opinion, in the NBA. You're not going to be worried about it. You're not going to be stressed about it. You're going to understand, look, it's basketball. Whether I got a Bucs uniform on, whether I got another team's uniform on, I'm still playing the same game. Now, I would like to play for the Bucs for as long as I can. It's fun playing alongside Giannis. It's fun playing alongside Dame, Chris, Bobby, the whole group that we have.

Pat Bev. Do you subscribe to the podcast? I subscribe to the pod, yeah. Does everybody on the team subscribe? I think when he first got there, he just took everyone's phone and subscribed for everybody just to make sure we had 100% subscribers ratio in the locker room.

He did say when he showed up to the Bucs, it got a little confusing when Doc would be like, Pat, and he would have to say, like, are you talking about black Pat or white Pat? Yeah, he did say that. And so Doc started calling me Eminem. That's perfect. Yeah, no, it was, Pat, he was great to me

while I was there, you know what I mean? He's one of those guys, I think, when he's on your team, you enjoy having him and you put up with some of the antics that I think help Gets him going and he thinks you know more often times and not helps gets the team going unfortunately You know it didn't work out this year, but you know I have nothing bad to say about Pat Beverly Were you one of the guys who was like hey Pat stop throwing this ball into the stands no I actually if you look at me in the video, like I'm looking to see what's happening and right as I turn my head, I think towards him, the ball goes over my head. So I missed the whole

thing. Like it's literally like just perfect timing as I look up and I start to look this way, the ball goes that way and I'm like, and I never saw it. Oh, was there ever even a ball? We don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I listen, we, we love Pat Bev. He shouldn't have done that. But again, the guy was wearing a jersey with no t-shirt underneath, which if you do that, you're expecting to get in the game. Yeah, I think he was. Like, you wanna get in, you're hoping you show up

to the stadium that night being like, if a couple guys get injured, like, they might, coach might just call my number. Yeah, I think he was hoping Rick Carlisle was gonna look down the bench. I think it was a Tyrese Halliburton jersey from the video I saw and thought, hey, Tyrese get into the game, but not you Tyrese.

We want this guy who's a little stronger. Yeah, with wearing the jean. Yeah, exactly, a little stronger and he might be able to play some post defense a little bit better. Get this guy to box somebody out. Yeah, exactly, yeah, just face guard him. So we're running this, we're gonna run this Friday.

So there will be, I think the Celtics will probably finish their business with the Cavs between then and now. But we have a couple other series. So in terms of like the teams you've played or the teams are still left and playing them this year, who do you think is like the best full team right now left in the playoffs? Look, I grew up seven miles outside the city of Boston. As much as it now, I was a Celtics fan as a kid growing up Paul Pierce

Come on at the whole thing I've gotten to a place now where or I enjoy beating the Celtics, but I do think unbiasedly they have the best team left. Yeah, at least in the east Yeah, you know when you talk about the West I think the Denver Minnesota series has been incredible Obviously everyone knows no home team has won yet, but for Denver to go down 2-0 at home and come back and win two in Minnesota speaks a lot to the championship that they won last year

and the culture that they have over there. But it also speaks a lot to what Minnesota has been able to do when everyone kind of wrote them off a year or two ago when they made the trade for Rudy because they're doing great things and they're showing that they have a future with the ago when they made the trade for Rudy. Yeah. Because they're doing great things, and they're showing that they have a future with the group that they have. And obviously, Ant-Man's doing a tremendous job,

and he's fun to watch, and I think he's got a great way about him. I think he's got a great confidence to him that doesn't come off as arrogance, and he just kind of speaks with his mind, but it's in a funny and jovial way, which I think's really fun to watch and really fun to root for.

Can you feel when you're on the court with Anthony Edwards that he's got more dog than everyone else? Yeah, I think you can. I think the thing about him is he's got this competitiveness to him that I think a lot of NBA guys have, but he's able to do it in a way where he's still having fun. So it's almost like a slap in your face. Like you're still having fun and you're beating me or you're doing all

these things that you're doing. You're not just like fully locked in. He is locked in, but it doesn't look like he's always just fully locked in. He's smiling, he's having fun, he's talking, he's trash. And it gets him going. And I think at 22 years of age. Yeah. Yeah Do you think you're ever gonna compete in the slam dunk contest again? I don't know. We'll see we'll see I got to I got to get my bounce back to a place where it needs to be When you jump back as long as I've jumped in 31 years old There's some underlying injuries that that come along with that that that I gotta get back to a healthy place. And now that I have unfortunately a longer off season,

I'm hoping to do that. So what are your prime ages in terms of jumping? I gotta say 18 to 28. Okay, so 30 is, well Hank, he's not here right now. We'll have him show you his progress. He's doing some jumping exercises? He's trying to dunk. We made a bet with him.

He's 30. I think it's like a 10 grand bet. He's gonna he's got a dunk by the end of the year He's got no chance. So where did he start? No, we're below the rim and he's still below. He started to create a net Yeah, you can touch the net he's gonna touch the backboard. Yeah He can he kind of yeah, he could touch the back and he started backboard on a high school room backboard on an NBA rim I do different touch the backwards wait backwards. It's different Yeah, you never see where the backboard comes down on a high school room comes down lower than on an NBA Oh, so maybe he's touching Mickey Mouse back. Yeah. Yeah

Well, I mean if the backboard came down that low on an NBA rim guys Good point Anthony Edwards still does some yeah exactly. Yeah, if an Anthony I was I still do that What when he touches rim how far away is he from that point? Because he hasn't touched rim yet. So you got to get like you're can you palm a basketball? No, if you can't palm it, you probably got to get to here if you can calm it You can come down here. Yeah max Tex Hank We got him He said that his strategy is gonna be to do like an alley-oop that way the ball isn't weighing him down when he's jumping

That that's a good strategy, but he needs who's throwing the pass. That's a good question He said that his strategy is gonna be to do like an alley-oop, that way the ball isn't weighing him down when he's jumping. That's a good strategy, but who's throwing the pass? That's a good question. I think we have to. Well, if you're throwing the pass, then you're incentivized to not throw a good pass. Yeah, exactly. Oh, shit, not bad.

He started out, I'd say, nine inches away from the rim. Now he's down to maybe six, so maybe five. He's made some progress. Okay, that's good. He's still not at the rim yet. Yeah, I mean, if you're not at the, so it's gonna go like this. Being a guy who was like hell bent on dunking

since I was in sixth grade, and I was a short chubby kid in sixth grade, like if we had a photo of it, I wouldn't show you because of how short and chubby I was in sixth grade, but I was fortunate to grow vertically instead of horizontally seventh and eighth grade. And it is a process. Like you grab the net, great, you love it.

Slap the backboard on all your layups, great, love it. Can grab the rim, not just touch it, but grab it, great. Dunk a tennis ball, dunk a volleyball, and then you try to be able to dunk a basketball. How long did that process play out for? When you went from touching the rim to the... Took me two years. When did you first dunk? Oh, from touching the rim? Yeah touching it took me to your rim to the took me to your when did you first dunk

Oh from touching the rim. Yeah, it took me a year Yeah, first dunk in eighth grade eighth grade end of eighth grade pat said you have to be like the rim has to be like here on your hand That's a problem Well, can you palm a basketball kind of Then it could be I can I can palm a basketball like standing still, but if I start moving, I couldn't palm it and run. And your tactic is the alley-oop. Tactics gonna be alley-oop, yeah. Maybe like the throw it up. You want it to be right up. You need

somebody to throw it right above the rim. Like literally you just drop it in. Yeah, I was thinking like throw it up to myself where you throw it super high and then just like kind of guide it down. Yeah, that's gonna be tough. Wait, so you're like throw it up to myself where you throw it super high and then just like kind of guide it down Yeah, that that's gonna be tough Wait, so you're gonna throw it up in the air and then as it's still in there You're gonna run up to the hoop and then jump up and then dunk it in yourself I'm hoping he's gonna let it bounce. Oh, no, you can't palm a basketball. Are you a lefty? Peds on the ball? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow I just like to say I used to I hope my son's a lefty my son my first son's left So I've thought about that. Yeah, right

Can you train your son to be a lefty like if you just don't let them use their right hand ever? So I've actually heard a story of that happening. So like my dad is a lefty but growing up He was one of eight when they would go out to play baseball. They didn't have a right fielder. So they made him bat righty And he thinks he would have been better if they just let him bat lefty. That'd be natural. So he can bat righty, plays golf righty, he does everything, so I think it's possible.

But I don't know if you're able to reach your full potential if you force it upon. Yeah, it's funny because it happens very naturally where it's like all of a sudden he's just holding shit with his left hand, you're like, oh shit, and then we're playing T-ball now, in first practice. They tried to had him hit right? He couldn't do anything. I was like flip him around and then he started hitting it. Yeah. Yeah, it is wild Yeah, wild that like the human body right has a way they want to do things right at that age, right? Yeah

Yeah, go ahead Hank. I just like to say Pat. I'm happy your career panned out I grew up in Massachusetts around the same time. And you were- Where'd you grow up? What was Situate? I forget what the name of the magazine was. Oh, we played Situate. ESPN Rise.

It was like the free one that would be in the library. Yep, ESPN Rise. And you would be on the cover every single season. Baseball, basketball, baseball, basketball, baseball, basketball. I remember that. I feel like my whole high school. The reason I remember that is they made me do a photo shoot

and you know Massachusetts, it was right before basketball season. It's Thanksgiving outside, and they wanted to do that baseball basketball theme. And I was on the baseball field with a basketball jersey on and baseball pants, and it was freezing. I was like, we couldn't have just staged this. There wasn't a backdrop, a green screen back then.

We could have done something. That's such a funny photo shoot. It's like this guy plays a lot of sports. Let's have him wear all of his shirt at once Yeah, oh you don't believe that he plays all these. Yeah, look right here. Yeah, he's got them all on Imagine like Hank going home to his parents and they've got these magazines out They're like why can't you be more like that Pat Conn? No, it was in the library It's like you go to the library and then you obviously weren't trying to do any worse who just pick up

Yeah, your eyes was like this kid's gonna be the greatest player of all time He's gonna cover every greatest player of all time. He's gonna cover every single fucking, because they would do like one a season or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I remember I used to get heckled with it. I used to walk into gyms, high school gyms, for a game my senior year,

and they'd all have the magazine, and in the magazine it would say like, things you like. So like, I don't know if you remember Puppaginos. Puppaginos like was my spot. It's a chain back home. Tuesdays? Yeah, Buffalo Chicken Fingers or whatever it had. And so they'd all make fun of me for like my spot. It's a chain back home. Yeah, chicken, Buffalo chicken fingers or whatever it had. And so they'd all make fun of me for like my interests. Like run this

town was my favorite song at the time. So they'd play it. They'd play it before and like give me, yeah, they did some good, they had some good stuff. There was some cleverness. Did you ever, I know you played baseball at Notre Dame as well. Was it like, has there ever been a moment where you're like, I'm, I would like to try, you know, to it maybe spring training or something or is that moment passed? I did it. Yeah, you did Went to I got drafted out of high school But went to school and I was like I want to play both and then I got drafted after my junior year at Notre Dame in the fourth round and went over that summer to play Pro baseball for the Aberdeen Ironbirds in the Orioles farm system.

The summer before I played in the Cape, but I did it for that whole summer then went back to school. Part of the deal was, you know, it's kind of why, you know, fourth round's great, but I kind of dropped because I told everybody before the draft, hey, I want to go back to school. Like I want to finish my basketball career

and I only had half a semester left to graduate. Right. And so they let me go back and their exact quote was, well, yeah, you won't get drafted in basketball. So go ahead, go back and we'll see you at spring training like the next year. And I was like, great, thanks so much. And then I ended up getting drafted. Yeah, haven't gone back. Wait, so did you? How did you do when you were in the good? Good. Yeah, I pitched I started I was starting pitcher. I was in

short season a which I think they did away with now. I think it's just low a and high a. Um, and I think I started five or six games that summer before I ended up having to go back because they make you go to extended spring training first. So it doesn't start to like July. Um, my era was right around two. Oh shit. So it was good. I mean, have you thought maybe like when you retire from basketball, like that would be a So it was good. I mean, have you thought maybe like when you retire from basketball, like that would be a cool story. Yeah, I mean, look, if try it again. If the Pat coaching network doesn't come through

and I get a few more jobs, then I've looked, I've thought about going back potentially. I mean, as a pitcher, I feel like it gives me the best chance, right? I gotta get my arm a little bit more back in shape, but from an athleticism standpoint standpoint no disrespect to the pitchers But I like the thing I'm probably a little more athletic than most of the pitchers I would say that's fair.

Having played in the NBA. Yeah, wait so what was it? What was your fastball? 98. Yeah, maybe Adam Silver says hey boy, why don't you take a couple years off? We're gonna just say that you're retired go play minor league baseball and then come back. Yeah, I appreciate that I think we should compare Anthony Edwards more to Michael Jordan than myself, but I know where you're going with that.

What can you throw right now, like a regular warmup, obviously haven't been training, but what do you think you could throw? I think I could get it low 90s. I think so. This was actually a debate. You gotta do this. This was a debate during the season.

The strength and conditioning department and the PT department within the Bucs were talking, what do you think I could get it back up to if you gave me six months? Okay. So Christian Yelich was in your slam dunk competition. Yes, he was. If he competes in the home run derby,

you should throw pitches for him. Yes. That would be awesome. You should just throw gas. And we're not gonna tell you why we need you to do this. We just need Christian Yelich not to win the home run derby. Got it, got it. If Christian Yelich wins the home run derby, PFT and I have to eat each other's ass.

Holy shit. Yeah. Who made that bet? We did. Do you get anything on the other end? No, we're the dumbest people ever. What do you mean the other end? Before he started hitting home runs and he was like, it was when he was still with the

Marlins and we had him on, it was like what, six years ago? A great dude, he's been on a bunch, he's a good friend. And he was like, yeah, I can hit home runs. We were like, no you can't, dude. And I think it was right when there was a porn video out that he looked like a doppelganger for a dude who was eating ass in a porn video. And we brought it up to him.

And this was pre-OnlyFans. Pre-OnlyFans. I think so, yeah. But it was a pretty out there rumor already. People had said, is this Christian Yelich? He was aware of the fact that he looked like a guy in it. Okay. So bad. He had to explain this out loud.

Yeah, but if he's in the home run, that'd be so natural. Be like, you helped me out in the slam dunk competition. I want to help you out in the home run. Throw 92, throw some curve balls. And they throw pitches from in front of the mouth. Yeah. So my 92 might seem like a hundred.

Yeah. Wait, what other pitchers did you have? Fastball. So the thing, the reason 98, I mean nowadays isn't really that fast. Guys are throwing above a hundred. But the reason I was good in baseball was I had natural like two seam movement.

So I had this down and out to a lefty movement on my four seam fastball. And so I did a fastball, I had a curveball, I had a splitter and I had a change up. And my idol growing up was Pedro Martinez. So watching him pitch, I did, I tried to basically throw the pitches he threw. He had a slider instead of a splitter. But the way he threw his circle change was with that exact four seam grip. And so for me, my fastball did a little down and away. So when I did the four seam circle change, it went like way down and away. And that's what everybody from like a scout

standpoint would drool over is this looks like a fastball, like it's impossible to figure out the difference and it moves away. Like, can you stop playing basketball? And I was like, you got to do this. Like even like, I hope you're in the NBA for, you know, six, seven, eight, whatever, how many more years you want to be in the NBA. But when you do retire, you need to at least try cause it would be such a cool. How long did Jamie Moyer pitch till he was like 44? So look, we got time. I'm 31. I got what? Like 13 years before that happens.

Yeah. Yeah. You could do it. Are you still an Oriole? Do they still have your rights? So my rights. So I did, they were, the Orioles have been great to me. Obviously I went and I played pro ball that summer. Um, and when I didn't come back, they were basically like, Hey, we gave you a signing bonus. You didn't come back. Um, so they went to the commissioner and they're just, they put me on what's called a reserved list. They were basically like, Hey, we want something for the signing bonus, aside from just a summer of pro baseball. Cause basically what it was like, I went and played pro baseball and I retired, but I'd never retired. Um, so they,

my rights were like paused right then and then. So if you went, if you said, Hey, I want to be back, you'd get the money. No, no, no. I already got all the money. I already got all the money, but if I wanted to go back, they were like, I'm a, cause they paid you the money. Correct. So I think it's still four or five years left Technically if I went back for the Orioles that they have my rights for what they pay Like 400 grand that's pretty good for a little extended. It was before NIL. No big deal. It was before NIL Oh, so your senior year at Notre Dame you were walking around with some cash. I had a little cash Violation no because I did not go back and play baseball at Notre Dame. Oh, that makes sense. Such a great loophole. Well, it's a

loophole if you're an incredible athlete. Yeah. Yeah. Or everyone should try this. Yeah. I mean, this is something like SEC football could definitely do. If Brian Kelly just has guys on his football team, he's like, Hey, I've got a good relationship with, uh, I don't know, like the Atlanta Braves. They're gonna sign you for an offseason to be a baseball player. You're not gonna have to play, and then you're just gonna be a no-show job.

400 grand, a no-show job, and come back. Adding to the NIL. You guys should, yeah, maybe you should take a commission on that. That's a good idea. I'll talk to the guys at JMU about that. Maybe we need, what we should do is we should see if we can become an unaffiliated baseball team

and sign guys that way. Yeah, there's no baseball being played ever. Yeah. What is that team? What is the Bananas team? Savannah Bananas. Savannah Bananas. 100%.

Starts on affiliated leagues. Yeah. Yeah. Independent ball. Yeah. No doubt. Okay. I'll build you the stadium.

The real estate stuff I do. I'll build you the stadium. Yeah. So you are a real estate mogul. I actually, last night we were, Pat Bev and Rhone were doing a live stream for the Mavs Thunder game and I joined it for a little bit and I mentioned, I was like, oh, Pat Connaughton's coming in. And Rhone said that when he was at a game, whatever it was, game two maybe, against the Pacers, he was sitting next to a guy who was like, you see Pat Connaughton? my landlord. That's pretty weird that you could just go to a box game and be like, that's the guy I pay my rent check to. So how much real estate do you have?

Quite a bit. Really? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, we've got so our portfolio is probably right around $250 million. We got probably 150, 155 investors, a lot of them professional athletes. The idea behind it is hey, you know, financial wealth, right, or financial education.

How do we make sure that guys, you know, that 30 for 30 broke on ESPN? We want to try to make sure that doesn't happen. And so for me, being a guy in the locker room, a guy that you know, guys trust and a guy that's doing it with his own money anyway, having them come in and understand how investing in real estate works and being able to tangibly see it and be able to like do it a little bit differently where as a construction process is going on, I'm sending them updates of the job site. So they see what their money has been doing as a project gets finished and it gets obviously

rented and stabilized and things like that, you're able to see, all right, this is where the money's coming from. This is how much it costs on a monthly basis is how much the rent we're coming in. And this is kind of the net and this is my return on investment. And then, you know, obviously, as that happens, we get to invest into another one. And so it's been a lot of fun for me just getting guys involved and educating them at a high level in real estate investing.

And then I've had a lot of great mentors. To be honest, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that. From a real estate standpoint, my dad was a general contractor, which is how I got into it. But they've done a great job of continuing to help me build and grow it. So I got 19 employees. That's awesome. And 150 investors. And we're in four states with projects and we're doing three this year. Oh, residential or commercial as well? Mixed or both. Yeah, some mixed use, some residential.

We should do like a, anybody that comes on the show that wants some financial education or wants to stay and invest, we'll let them have their own little portion of the, you know, buildings they do. Oh, I like that. Can I do a sidebar real quick? Yeah, a sidebar.

And legends can also have it, obviously. Yeah, legends can have it, sidebar, sidebar. And this is patch in here this is not what he's doing in real estate is incredible and it sounds awesome if it ended up being a Ponzi scheme and he stole everyone's money this this portion the podcast probably in being the documentary and in the court of law too yeah okay sidebar over yeah awesome that's no no Ponzi full transparency full. I just in my head

I was like we're gonna be on Netflix. Yeah Why can't wait wait wait wait? Why can't it be a success story? That? Extremely successful You exit at the right time yeah, yeah before people know you're dead sick though Did you start just owning small units? I started flipping one house. Wow, so you started out fixing toilets and shit? Yeah, well, yeah, basically.

I started out working on my dad's job sites. So prior to owning a house and flipping it, I was hauling lumber, sheet rock, cleaning dumpsters, doing all the stuff you don't want to do. One day I cleaned a dumpster, and obviously my was taught me hard work all that sort of stuff. He was very adamant about how you clean the dumpster. Like you can't just throw stuff in it because then there's empty space. So you got to like pack it correctly. He doesn't want to have multiple dumpster runs that cost some money. And so I learned how to pack it the right way. And

then I learned how to take two by fours or plywood and put them up on the sides so you could actually grow the dumpster and put more stuff in. I made the mistake of doing it with sheetrock the first time I did it and anybody that knows sheetrock once it gets to a certain point it just goes. Yeah. It just breaks. Yeah. So the guy that was driving the dumpster, my buddy and I did it, pulled out, took a right and you just hear and boof, and one of the sheetrock panels went and all that stuff from the dumpster flattened out, but it was off his job site, so it was now on the guy

who was doing the dumpster run. It was his fault. But Joe and I helped him. Yeah, wait, so let's just do dumpster talk real quick. How much does it piss you off if you have a site and people just randomly throw stuff in the dumpster? Because I do that all the time. If I see a dumpster, I'll be like, I need to just, I'll go back home, get some trash, throw stuff in the dumpster because I do that all the time. If I see a dumpster, I'll be like, I need to just, I'll like go back home,

get some trash, throw it in the dumpster. Yeah, we have cameras, so when somebody does that, we then put a video of them up right next to the dumpster the next day and it usually has them. I might have to go up to Milwaukee and start just throwing shit in the dumpster. It would be great content for the show. I just drive around with a trash bag in my car

just in case I see a dumpster Yeah, just a throw it in. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Yeah You know, it's gray area. Yeah, it's kind of like a Ponzi scheme. Yeah, right Exactly. You don't really know. Yeah really knows in terms of crime in this country. I think throwing away trash Probably pretty low. Well, I was gonna say isn't it interesting that throwing away trash in a dumpster is a crime But like throwing it on the ground isn't technically a crime. We should never litter. Yeah Well, I think littering is a crime. Is it for well on highways and stuff. You definitely get fines. Yeah, but yeah I love what you say max

Have you ever found any like high school kids that put put together like a couple trash bags of beer that go into your dumpster Oh max anything specific. Well, I mean mean memes are just saying that was a yeah It's time move that was a move when you were in high school Yeah, or like after like a bachelor party and you're like, I don't know where the fuck to throw It's like oh we saw a dumpster down the street. Let's just throw everything in there in the random Yeah, college kids. We see college kids do it for sure So right so is it weird knowing like when you're playing a game that there's probably hundreds of people in the stadium that are sending you like lease checks?

You're their landlord? Yeah, I mean, not really, but it's a different scale. I don't think many professional athletes are collecting rent checks is the scale that we are. Take offense to the phrase rent free. When someone's like, I'm rent free in your head, you're like, nobody's rent free, buddy. Yeah, I do actually.

I've said that to somebody. Have you ever? Somebody said, I'm living rent free in your head, you're like, nobody's rent free, buddy. Yeah, I do actually. I've said that to somebody. Somebody said, I'm living rent free in your head, and I go, there is no free rent. Yeah. We wanna make sure our tenants love where they live. It's a fair price. Sometimes we're just below market to make them feel good. So that, you know, obviously a professional athlete

owning units, there can be a lot of hate on the Twitter. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, have you ever had someone like, as you're like going to the tunnel, they're like, hey, Pat, like my toilet hasn't worked for a week, you fucking send someone over. Yeah, I've had somebody do that in an away arena though, so I know they weren't actually serious because I didn't own any units in that area.

All right, I need people to start doing that. Just start yelling like random like, hey, my light's out. And you guys haven't done anything, I got a leak. It's an infestation, I've got ants. I, I will say I will say we don't do our own property management as far as a liability standpoint We don't do our own we third party that out and we make sure we try to have the best property manager that we can Have so that things get fixed on time on task and no one has any problems. I have a real estate development project for you What do you got? Can I pitch you on this? Yeah, pitch me. All right. So it's like an amusement park, except it's just sports. Right? So you've got the 17th hole at Sawgrass. That's part of it. That's like one section of it.

You've got a baseball stadium. That's the size and exact dimensions of like Fenway Park and then a batting machine, a pitching machine. So you can just go yard on that. And then you've got a football field and you've got like a roster Of guys like 11 guys that you can be a quarterback and throw touchdown passes to like college athletes things like that You just bounce around. It's like it just an amusement park, but for sports Are you in I love the idea? How does it? Make money people people buy tickets and then we charge a fuckload for so yeah for like concessions We'll go too.

$15 a soda. You can come see us. Can we move like Barstool headquarters there? Can it have its own? Yeah, you have to pay us though. You can like- That's not how rent works. You guys have to pay us in appearance.

No, it's like Trump. Double dipping. Oh, both sides. So where's the Ponzi scheme really? It's a real estate term, it's called double dip. No, we put the Barstool sports name on it, like Trump does on the building here in Chicago. So everyone's like, it's the Barzi scheme really? It's a real estate term, it's called double dip. No, we put it, we put the Barstool Sports name on it, like Trump does on the building here in Chicago. So everyone's like, it's the Barstool Sports thing,

but we actually don't do anything. We just come up with the idea. But wouldn't you wanna like participate? Yeah, we get free admission. For a fee. But we get free admission. Yeah, they can pay us to show up. So he wants to get paid, you just want free admission. On the first day, we just show up for free.

Yeah. And then every time after that, it's like, will you please come take batting practice? Here's $5,000. How much? $5,000. A pitch. A pitch? What if you don't hit it?

$10,000. No, no, I was gonna say, if you miss, you should owe us $5,000. Yeah, that's true. Oh, that's actually, yeah. And I'll pitch to you. That'd be part of the work to my comeback. High stakes, yeah.

That's not bad. You could also set up gambling on how much contact each person is gonna make. That's very true. You could also set up like gambling on how much, how much contact each person is going to make. If that's very tough, 95 mile an hour fastballs, we call that the Pat step into the batter's box and you say, I think I'm going to make contact with more than four pitches. If you do, then you get your money back. If you don't, then you pay double. So I will say this has been a topic in the two locker rooms that I've been a part of, Portland Trailblazers and Milwaukee. Do you think you could make contact if I pitched you? No, no, I'm fairly confident that I wouldn't. How many pitches do you think it would,

yeah, not even foul one off? I'd say 80,000. No, I don't think so. You don't think so? No. No, I haven't really swung a bat at anything above like 60 miles an hour. I guess if you gave me like 100 pitches,

I'd probably get a lucky one just by just time, like dumb luck timing it. But it wouldn't be any skill of like, I saw the ball and like barreled it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, so I got a lot of teammates that think they can do it. Get a hit?

Make contact. Yeah, well, actually I've seen some, I've seen some, what, oh what oh Matt oh yeah give me ten swings I'm taking you deep taking me deep. I never gave up a home run You never give up a home run high school. I did I never give up a home run since high school Not in college and all three years not in the pros But you're you got to understand you're talking to the Matt stairs of the CIA right there Yeah, Matt Max played at Hofstra. He was a pinch hitter. What was your stats? I hit three home runs

How many pinch hits 45 at bats Wow, that's pretty good percentage for home Yeah, I will say I you know my secret sauce what I don't always Throw it in the strike zone. Oh Now I'm at zero because I would be standing so far away. Yeah, I like so you're gonna hit me I'll be completely honest with you. There has been a few pitches. There have been a few pitches in my collegiate career that went behind a batter. That would be terrible. Yeah. And it wasn't on purpose. Like I didn't do it on purpose. I'm just wildly affected. We got to do this though. Yeah. To get max. We should. 100% see if we can get it. And you said 10

pitches. Well, 10 a B's, 10 a B's, 10 a B's is different than 10 different Well, you know you you I didn't know that zero home run since high school stat. Oh throwing it behind guys Yeah, am I allowed to throw other pitches where I'll wear the fuck out of a pitch if you throw it me. Oh, that's good That's good. That's what you're supposed to do. You take take your base I yeah, I also am I allowed to mix up the pitches or good. Yeah. Yeah, of course Yeah, of course. Yeah real bad as a pinch hitter, I was also second in my team and hit by pitches. Aw. I love wearing pitches.

That's a savage stat. Hey, that's having a dog in you as a baseball player. That's what that is. My favorite thing about Max's college career is that sometimes he would pinch hit, and then he'd walk, and then go to first base, and they'd take him out and put a pinch runner. And that was his entire day.

That was his entire day. Good day at the office. That's an unbelievable day at the office. We actually, we held the University of Illinois Chicago. Is it UIC, right? UIC, yeah. We held them to one run and two innings. Yeah.

Like as a podcast. PFT pitching, I was catching. We had the guys in the outfield. Yeah. They played infield, so that helped. It was kind of embarrassing for them, actually. But it actually was a good motivator for them because they're really good team Yeah, they had a good season since then so maybe we're great. Yeah, actually Yeah, I think we were I think PFT was pitching slow enough that they didn't know what to do

Like that was yeah felt like you you hit that their timing was off. Yeah What is average 68 point five? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. You're throwing guy. It was cold that day. It's like, all right, what is it? Average 68.5, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. You were throwing, it was cold that day. It was really cold. Oh, that's tough. Yeah. That is tough. What is your best sport at a podcast?

I mean, it's kind of, probably average basketball, I would guess, because Hank and Big Cat aren't bad. I stink. Does watching sports count as a sport? No. Not in this instance. Okay. Like golf, how are we at golf? Oh, yeah golf

I guess yeah, although we kind of suck at that Stink it every time Scramble we're like we'll go under par. Yeah No clothes. Yeah. No. Yeah. Well, what course you playing? It was an easy one. I suck. Was it the par three? No, what's the par three. We suck at everything. That's why we do what we do. I would say we are very good at watching sports though. Yeah, yeah, I would say you're elite at watching sports.

Yes, top point. Elite. 0.001%. 100%. I'm actually nasty at Frisbee golf. I am. I don't know if that's a sport, frolf. Shout out to all the frolfers out there.

Basketball, yeah, I guess, but we're bad, but we can at least, we could field the team. Yeah. Yeah, we have five, memes is good. Yeah, we'd be okay. All right, so I got one last question. It's been awesome, Pat, having you come down here, and we do have to do a video of you striking Max out

and maybe hitting him in the head. That would be awesome if he fucking beans you in the head. We'll have him sign all the liability, we don't care. I did, I accidentally hit a kid in the head in high school and the ball hit off his helmet and went into the air all the way back to me at the mound. I caught it. Yeah, I felt bad.

Yeah, all right, so my last question, rowback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. I know the answer to this, but I'm gonna still ask anyway. Last time you were on, you told us some good Yana stories, how he's a superstar, but he's still like putting in the work and a regular guy.

Has any of that changed? Is he still the same guy where it's like from our perspective, he just loves life, loves basketball and still works like countless, countless hours. Is that still the same? Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, I would say the thing that I feel for Yarnas most is he works so hard because he wants to win so bad. He wants to help his team win so bad. In the last two years he hasn't really been able to play in the playoffs. And like think about, and I know obviously we are all fortunate to do what we do for a living and get paid handsomely for it

But you know you go through an 82 game season And I think he played more games this year than he than he has in in quite a few years In totality throughout that 82 games And then you're not able to play in the playoffs you get injured right before the players not able to play and now You can't be out there to help your team compete during the time in which you're preparing the entire year for. And you gotta wait until next year.

And you gotta go through the whole thing again before you get another opportunity. And then the same thing happens again. And you're not able to compete. And you gotta sit there and kind of watch your team as we were unable to, you know, to obviously help him have an opportunity to play. And that was something I even said to him on the plane

back from Indiana, I just said, man, I'm sorry about that. Like, I'm sorry we weren't able to get you an opportunity to play in the playoffs because I know how much it means to you to win. I know how much work you put in. I know how much you care about your craft and about your teammates around you and the organization you play for in the city of Milwaukee.

And we weren't able to get to a place where we were able to give you an opportunity to play in the playoffs, which is, you know, kind of what you live for in the basketball sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a great dude. He's a great guy. Seems like a fun guy.

Actually, we had his back when he gave that, that post game presser when he got bounced. Oh, I didn't. I think we did a couple of years ago. You might've. I think we said, I think we said, yeah, he's, I mean, he's right. Oh, I didn't. I think we did a couple years ago. You might've. I think we said, yeah, he's right. Oh yeah, that part, yeah. You can still have a good season

if you don't win a championship. It's still like, okay, only one team gets to do this. Not everyone. Yeah, I mean, look. It's a healthy perspective. Yeah, it's about the process, it's about the journey, it's about getting better, right? I think that's when he talks about things of that nature and talks about that press conference you're talking about,

it's like you can't be a failure if you're utilizing adversity, if you're utilizing failure to grow and be better about it the next year, in my opinion. You're not gonna win a championship every single year. I don't know anybody that has. But when we're in a position to win a championship and we fall short of that goal,

it can only be a failure if you don't utilize that experience to build upon it, in my opinion. Yeah, I just want on the record, I'm pretty sure I called it loser talk because I know Bucs fans will be mad if I pretend I didn't. If you pretend you didn't what? Call it loser talk, I did in that moment. I think we said, I definitely said it was loser talk.

But I have a thing, Bucs fans are Packers fan, I hate them all. It's good perspective, but also some of the best athletes of all time have absolutely zero perspective on anything. Right. That is very true. Like Tom Brady. Tom Brady has no perspective on anything. Yeah. Michael Jordan probably doesn't have a great perspective. Yeah. But that's what makes them who they are. Yeah. I mean, look, and they're competitive. They're competitive dudes. I mean, they're winners.

They've done a lot of winning in their career. I mean, my whole're competitive. Yeah, they're competitive dudes. I mean they're they're winners They've done a lot of winning in their career. Yeah, I mean my whole childhood in New England our whole childhood. Oh, he left Was winning because of Tom. Yeah. Yeah, and the Celtics and the Bruins and You can't you can't basketball and the Red Sox pretty good if you're You guys let me ask you a quick question before we get off. Do you guys think that the professional sports in Boston prevent the collegiate sports from raising their level to national champions? That's an interesting question because I think that

in the South, especially like college football, you get smaller towns or smaller cities and their professional sports are college sports. Yeah, that's where it is So there's probably some truth to that where I think it's also just big schools are always gonna have an advantage like when you when you think about like smaller schools in the Northeast first like a Big ten or SEC. Yeah, they're just the the amount of like people that they draw from. Yeah, I don't know. That's it Yeah, yeah Cuz I think the the further Midwest you get,

the further South you get, the colleges are, for the most part, not always, but they're located in towns where they pretty much run the entire city. Right. Right, the city is that college. And in the Northeast, everything is so jammed together that you're never gonna have a college

that's near New York City that is going to run New York City. That New York City is gonna give them everything they want. That's where I think. So you get bigger schools the further away from giant metropolitan areas that you get, I think. Andy Staples, our friend, did a study a couple years ago where it was a map of obesity in America

and it was just basically where everyone's good at football. It was just like, there's just bigger people in the Midwest and the South and then they're good at football. Wow. Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it kind of made sense. You're just like oh, I guess this does That's some good R&D research development. Yeah. Oh look at that. Yeah. All right last question I got for you. You can use it or you can not use it whenever this gets filmed flip the interview on us Yeah, I'm gonna flip it on you. Um

The it's a topic. It's relevant. I'm sure you guys have already talked about it, but Which athletes have the best chance to translate to another professional sport? I think it's golf. Well, excuse me, I think it's hockey to golf. You think hockey players? Baseball to golf? Baseball to golf feels like hand-eye coordination.

Maybe a starting pitcher to golf because they get so much time off. Yeah. I'd be at it. That's a good call. We did, we, the whole debate with the NFL, like I don't think anyone in the NFL could play in the NBA right now,

just because I think people forget just how good NBA players are. Like guys will shoot 30% from three and they're like, they're a bum. It's like watch them in a practice, they don't miss. Yep. But yeah, hockey's out. No one can really play hockey

unless you played it like growing up. I Actually, no, I know the answer I mean we if you guys decide if the Bucs decided that they wanted to be the US men's national team in soccer We'd win a World Cup You think so? Yeah easy. No problem Pick any sport they'd be our best soccer player. Without a doubt. Give them four months. No problem. I do think the football to basketball debate

was fascinating to hear different people's perspectives on. Because I think so many people associate athleticism with your measurable, I mean we're here in Chicago right now and the draft combine's going on. So many people associate athleticism with how fast can you run, how high can you jump, things of that nature.

But I look at athleticism as like, well, how coordinated are you? How able are you to play another sport, right? And I think football players are the best athletes from a sheer run straight and jump high because of their explosiveness, but I think the coordination you need in basketball, coupled with the athleticism

and kind of putting it all together, um, gives us a chance to do other things. Like, you know, I don't know, I could be miss speaking here, but how many football players do you know that can hit a golf ball like Steph Curry? Right. Yeah. True. Yeah. Yeah. The coordination is out of control. Yeah. But yeah, I had your guys back on that one. I appreciate you having maybe a race horse competing in sprinting. That'd be an easy one. Yeah, but yeah, I had your guys back on that one. I appreciate you having our maybe a racehorse competing in sprinting That'd be an easy one. Yeah Yeah, I think the hockey to golf is a pretty good one baseball to golf I think those are pretty pretty hot to go off like same motion. Yeah, and I coordinate also

I think actually a real answer would be if you were to take NBA all-stars give them a year of training They would probably be the best volleyball team in the world. That's true That's a very we'd also dominate handball, which will make the handball community upset Yeah, but we've done that's a group called volleyball would be yeah, but it would be really good Well, I get wimby up front you made it seem like my soccer answer wasn't a real answer Big cat soccer is very real. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted on my fiance play soccer. So yeah I mean, she probably knows like every Caitlin Clark would take her job in a second. Imagine Yonison Goal? I don't know she's pretty fast. Alright well Pat thank you as always man you're the best and we definitely have to do a video of you striking out Max and beating him. Yeah I'm ready I'm ready whenever you guys let me know. Appreciate you having me on the show as always.

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app for details. Okay, let's finish up with Fire Fest of the Week. Hank. Got anything for us, Hank? Hank! How you doing, Hank? I'm good. I'm r'm I'm rusted I can tell Yeah, Tuesday night Well, let's back up. Let's back up a little bit before Tuesday night because Tuesday start Tuesday morning woke up at 630 rise and grind

worked out 8 o'clock okay, what'd you do between 630 and 8? I made a protein shake. I don't think you actually woke up at 630 my alarm you do between 630 and eight? I made a protein shake. I don't think you actually woke up at 630. My alarm went off at 630. Okay. Here's, I go alarm. I usually snooze it twice, try and get up before seven, because I need to get out of

the door by 730, but I need time to eat and make something, get something in my stomach. A literal child. Yeah. What? Just get up when you need you get up I do I Like to snooze it takes how many times you get out by said you miss getting out by 730 a lot no okay? I make it I seven and seven thirty so I have like ten minutes to like stretch and stuff So if I get out 740 I'm still fine got it

But it takes you an hour and a half or an hour excuse me takes your full hour Between when you wake up and when you leave to get out. No, I leave at 730, but you wake up at 630 My alarm goes off. It's you do not just hear my mom goes off at 630. Yeah, but then he's I snooze it twice Trying it up before so get up when your alarm goes off Snoozes just I I get it snooze I Have I physically my I am my I am the worst procrastinator of all time physically like my body when I had like The last second that I have to get up is when I get up like I can't do it I just can't do it. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It didn't matter in school when I was in high school

I would wake up literally like two minutes before like either when my sister would drive me or like when I would get a ride to school I would wake up with one minute to go so fast forward a little bit during the day on Tuesday we're in the studio getting ready to record part of my take and Hank is asleep on the couch. He's snoring a little bit I like that noise Was wrong we recorded something and then and then We took a break. We're like, alright, let's take 40 minutes and then we'll do the rest of the show I said to you my trusted friend colleague brother-in-arms. I was like, I'm gonna take a nap

I feel myself falling asleep. I'm gonna take a quick nap. It's not like I just Dozed off unexpected. No. Hey Hank. Wait, I wasn't I was saying that because oh you were asleep. I have no problem with you falling asleep I told you what I was doing and why I was doing yeah, yeah I have no problem with that, but what happened we had 40 minutes I think announcing a nap means that you should be allowed to nap yeah I've no if you if you had a show with it you would know like zero problem with it zero problem But then you wake up from the nap, and it's what you said and you were bragging about your nap Oh, no wait wait wait, Hank cuz you're gonna lie. Oh

I'll say exactly the car. Okay. Would you say when you woke up? I woke up and I in my sleep I thought I caught myself snoring I heard a subconscious snore in my sleep and I woke up Paul Paul Rable came in and I was just passed out and he was like they started whispering. I was like, I'm up And then after a pft, I was like if you hear me snore once and he's like, uh, no you snored like for 20 minutes Yeah, well don't again, but I thought I thought in my head. I was like again. I thought I caught myself snoring and stop myself Yeah, this is this is not wasn't true. This is not where the issue is I'm fine you sleep all you want and now it's a nap go for a nap if we're not recording go for it snore

That's fine, but then you also bragged afterwards about how you got a quick 20 minutes in and it's the perfect nap, and if you get a 20 minute nap, that's all the human brain needs to sleep and you won't be tired again for the rest of the day. Oh! You said you only need 20 minutes of sleep. That's good.

Matt said that. No, you said that. Then I said, yeah, 20 minutes is perfect. I didn't get 20 minutes, I only got like 10. Why were you woken up Paul Rable? Oh But Hank bragged about how he had 20 minutes of sleep No, and so that's going to be you know for the rest of the day Yeah, pft filming posted it which is just crazy again once again It's like I thought this was a space sanctuary fake news because you woke up

And I showed you the video before I posted it I was like isn't this funny and you laughed and we laughed and I was like yeah I wasn't gonna post it while you were asleep, but I'm gonna post now and you're like haha. That's cool You were fine with what was supposed to say when you say you're here my boss I can't stop you. I'm not gonna be like a soft little bitch and be like don't post it But it's more like an unspoken you've turned yourself into quite the victim an unspoken rule okay it's all right all right so you got a perfect amount of sleep I got ten minutes ready I had gotten 20 minutes I would have been the perfect amount of sleep and I probably

would have been still awake to this day but then and this isn't there's really no excuse there's no victim I just I was tired I Knew I was tired the Timberwolves game was on started at 930 ended up starting like 945 I Stayed up. I didn't I was like don't lay on the couch. Don't sit on the couch. You're gonna fall asleep So I I have like a little TV in my kitchen So I was sitting on just a kitchen table chair. You fell asleep on a kitchen table chair? Yes, because I was like I'm gonna fall asleep if I sit on the couch and this is how I'll stay awake. How were you sitting? I made it to the fourth quarter and woke up. Were you on the kitchen

like island? No, I just woke up like this. On like an actual like kitchen like a stool? No, it was just a chair with the back. Okay, all right, regular chair. Yeah. Holy shit, you were tired. But yeah, I woke up and I was fighting myself. And there is nothing worse than your sleeping subconscious, which again, has more control over me than it should. But I convinced myself and it never works,

as long as I've lived, like just close your eyes for a minute Oh, yeah, no chance like I was I was watching the game and I was like, oh commercial like all right No, I'll just close my eyes for a minute I turned my phone on high volume to just in case I fall asleep Even though I knew I should have known like in hindsight like the second you say I'll just close my eyes for a second You're falling asleep shit So if we called you you might have picked up. Yeah, oh no, so that's not a that's not really our fault

Yeah, what goes through your head when you do finally wake up? I Woke up the fact that you guys didn't call me made me feel like it wasn't too bad. It was just one text It was just like ready to go and then Hank question mark. It wasn't like You know a bunch of texts well we've calls well for people who obviously know this but what we've been doing deliberately is we've been trying to do the majority of the show together and then the last like ten minutes just whatever game just happened so it really wasn't and it was a good show I did go to sleep I was like that was at least the show we did earlier was funny it was

very funny and we there wasn't a Boston team you had to talk about But yeah, I was I did wake up and I was just I what I mean well the Bruins. Oh shit Hey, did you hear this one? Did you hear about this one? Hank slept through part of my take episode, but in his defense It was at 1230 in the morning that we were taping It's not like he slept through one that was like 1130 in the morning that would have been bad Like during the normal business day at work hours I that's a fireable offense, but you did it at night, which is fine, which is when most people sleep

Are you just a sleep guy now? No, no, I sleep guy. I did say again. I would never make excuses I I take full full blame full responsibility You don't think I'm tired No, I yeah, of course. I'm always tired Yeah, I don't know how you don't just doze off sometimes the first incident sleeping in too late Kick-started my fitness documentary journey, which has me waking up early Which then forced me to be tired and sleep late, so I just got to find that middle ground But you had a good a fight is the first time you slept in right? Yeah, I just was fucking wasted

So if Caleb never went to your house and said let's go out you would have been no sleep no So I would have missed zero shows okay, and so we what went through your head when you woke up I texted it yeah fuck fuck I would have missed zero shows okay, and so we what went through your head when you woke up I Texted it yeah fuck fuck That I that I kind of assess the situation Was like all right my bad, then I was awake and I was I wanted I was close But I was like don't don't be an asshole. I was close to like tweeting max and being like where's the pod cuz I I was like I was awake at that point. I was like awake for like an hour. Um, and I was like, you know, refreshing the

podcast cause I wanted to listen to the damage. Um, cause Max was like just a light roasting, which could have meant like I got roasted for 30 minutes. Correct. So I didn't know. And, but I didn't want to like, you know, when you're in that situation, you can't really push the envelope and try and get answers. You just have to wait for it to happen. So when he said, just a light roasting, no big deal, I didn't know if he was like actually a light roasting

or actually like they spent the first 45 minutes like shitting on your life. So what changes are we looking to make moving forward? I don't think any. I think he's a sleep guy. I think he's just a sleep guy. Like we, people come in and they're like alright We you know you got the nerd you got the sweaty Italian you got commanders fan you got the sleep guy

You sleep guy now. He's sleep guy guess the problem you did this sleep Yeah, I mean I have people I gotta I gotta get better sleep I think the snoring and the mouth breathing is bad like it doesn't create good sleep I need I need to get like a Here's an idea. I had I did get some some tape some some mouth tape Oh nice, but I like need to make the podcast I need to make the sleep that I get count more than it does Here's an idea Sleep when you're dead. That's a good idea or just have a kid

You should have a kid so you don't fall asleep. I never sleep. I have to be up at 6.45 every single morning no matter what. Yeah. Not a bad idea. Me and you. Rising grinders. And my kids get to sleep, that's the worst part about being a parent is that you don't

sleep but my kids sleep like 12 hours a night. Fucking rocks for them. They just sleep. And they still wake up and they're like, let's go. Yeah, I just can't let the... I apologize. It was a bad look on my part, but I just can't let the morning one happen. There were a lot of people that said, like,

that was a really good show, especially the first 15 minutes of it. So that was good. That's great. that's all i care about at the end of the day that's true that's your team guy content machine pft uh so i was going to have a sleep related fire fest as well but i'm not going to do that uh because i think hank just absolutely trumps me on that my fire fest is that i think blake is now officially off stairs i think that so in his recovery i have to carry him up and down steps

The good news is you don't have a lot of stairs in your house. I've got a lot of stairs And so he he obviously like can't put too much pressure on his elbows He's just going outside to use the bathroom back to his crate basically, but he's gotten addicted now He's learned that when he gets to the steps. He just stops looks at me No, and then daddy comes in scoops him up takes him up gets to the steps he just stops looks at me and then daddy comes in scoops him up takes him up and down the steps the worst news is he's still growing and so he's gonna end up being probably like 120 pounds and that's a haul but I feel like the habits that I'm teaching him right now he's just gonna

retain those you're gonna get stronger I'm gonna get stronger I'm gonna get jacked up probably be able to dunk without all that leg strength that I'm building up. But he's, uh, yeah, he's learned that if he just stops and looks at me, then I'm going to come over, pick them up and he doesn't have to do stairs. And I don't blame them because if there's somebody, if there was a big, strong man that lived in my house, they just picked me up and carried me up and down the steps, I'm all in on that.

And like, yeah, why I'm not, I'm not going back to using my legs like a sucker. So I think that for probably at least it's going to be a tough habit to break probably next six months to a year. Uh, I'm just going to be Blake's elevator. Yeah. Which is tough. That's okay. Don't worry about those ramp things. Oh, like the ones that, um, that old ladies use, get them a chair and then hit the button. And it just, yeah, it's like the booger mobile, but for steps, that's not a bad idea. might do that be the alpha in your house yeah yeah you need me to take you up and down these steps don't you yeah I got it so that's my fire fest is why I have two one is a back on hair dye oh you are yeah I

got my hair cut yesterday and it was I look like Polly walnuts it could be worse so be Nikki smokes I still have my hair. Did you dye it up? Yeah, I did. I gotta probably do another paint, paint job. Just the sides. It's these sides. It's crazy how white I am now. You should do the Polly Walnuts actual hair dye.

Just the silver wings. It looks sick. Yeah, maybe. That would look sick. Maybe for Mount Rushmore season when we do bets Maybe it's personal bets and I could do that because that would look ridiculous But I would it would look awesome like if we did if we threw soul patches out there and I did that for two weeks Yeah, I'd consider doing it. I would look awesome. You know what? I'll throw my hair into if I lose Mount Rushmore season

I'll get a perm. Oh, okay. That's a good idea But my other my other one is speaking of being the alpha in your household I I've now gotten to the point where my son is like you're really strong like he says that to me he's like you're really strong like yeah I know like I pick him up and he's really strong so last night I was carrying him to bed he's like you're really strong I was like I'm the strongest in this house he's like you're not stronger than a monster and I was like fuck. That the strongest in this house. He's like, you're not stronger than a monster. And I was like, fuck. That's a good point. And then, so I could deal with that.

Monster, fine. Like you wanna go, I wanna go head to head against a monster, that's fine. He then said, well, and he named a kid in his class and he's like, his dad's stronger than you. Oh, so he's- And I was like, and I know who he's talking about cause I've met this guy's dad,

he is like probably four inches taller than me. He's a big guy. But I like what the fuck? He just said that another kid's son or dad is stronger than me. You got to fight that guy. I don't know what I got to know. That was the most emasculating thing. I got to do some kind of feats of strength in front of my kids I think I need to just maybe bring of like a Barbell into the kitchen and be like you guys want to keep talking shit. I'll fucking show you I think you got to punch this guy in the face. I mean it's rival dad. He's a really nice guy I met him he is taller than me, but to be to just blatantly just say oh, yeah X's dad is stronger than you in my own house

That cut me deep got cut me deep. That cut me deep. It's very funny to think that your kids going to school and then he's going up to other kids be like, your dad could beat up my dad. Yeah, that's what's happening. Yeah, that's tough. So I don't know what I got to do. But I gotta, I gotta figure out something. Because I got I got a I got to show that I'm the strongest maybe rough and rowdy. Who could you beat up here? This guy's, this kid's, this other five-year-old's dad.

Challenge him to Ruffin' Rowdy. Yeah. I think that's the only way out of this. Maybe the most confusing Ruffin' Rowdy ever. The drummer that fills in for Frankie sometimes, Dom with Pup Punk, by the way, tickets on sale, May 31st, Chicago. Love that.

Joe's on weed. The guy that fills in for him, he's a boy tie fighter, he just started, and he brought his son to his first profession or first like organized fight That's that's got to be weird to have your son in the audience Watching his dad fight and his son's like four years old. Oh, what if I did it? What if I staged a fight? That's what yeah you do. I need to stage a fight and beat the fuck out of max. Yeah Okay. All right. We'll do that. I'm gonna stage a fight and beat the fuck out of Max. Yeah. Okay. Alright, we'll do that.

I'm gonna stage a fight and just be like, look how strong I am. I beat the fuck out of this guy. Have Max try to break into your house to steal your cheese and then you just pummel him. Yeah. And then you make him puke and then he poops everywhere. This is good. This is good. Alright, I got some solutions.

Jake, you want to finish this off? Yeah, I'll finish this off. I've just been farting a lot recently. Oh no, gross. I've just been farting a lot recently. Oh no, gross. It's just been extra gassy. I don't know what it is. I haven't really ate anything out of the ordinary, but it's been extra gassy.

Jake, farts. That's what they're calling you. Yeah. Farts are fun. Yeah, but okay, I want to say this in a respectful way. Say whatever you want. Think about how to say it respectfully. Jake, I also mean no disrespect. A lot of people think that their farts smell good you strike me as a guy that thinks his own farts are bad

Yeah, I agree like yeah, you don't like your own farts. I mean like I'm Not scared of them like if you're by yourself in your apartment, and you got a lethal fart like that that excites me Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah Yeah, the ones that hit like right after you fart you get the smell instantly. Oh, dude Stink up your own car and you're like this fucking rocks Yeah A lot of people save their farts for their car because they don't want to fart in public wherever they're I save my farts for my Car because I like farting in my car put the heat on

Hotbox yourself. All right. You know what? I'm not gonna say the disrespectful. Just say it. I don't care. I was gonna say, I put you in the category of chicks. You shouldn't fart. Jake does some poop. Yeah, but you know my digestive issues. I understand, but like something about you farting just bothers me.

But Jake, you know what? It's not a you problem, it's a me problem. So I apologize. Nice little toot. Yeah, right. Yeah, like I feel like when you fart, you're like, you say oops. No know toot. Yeah. Yeah, right like he yeah, like I I feel like when you fart you're like you say oops But you know what Jake like the most noble thing that you can choose to do is to be a Homemaker of a podcast and I'm glad that you're filling that role. Yes, that's that's really valuable. So, thank you. Thank you

Oh, man. So what are you been doing? You just been eating like shit? No, I've been Jake all that's also because you don't eat You eat well, so I guess also when you eat super clean you actually yeah, it actually gets worse, right? Right? Yeah Okay, good show boys Let's do some numbers max is out. So I will do 20 eight forty six 18 three out so I will do 20 840 618 399 pug 21 pug by the way three you know the pugs the pugs pugs are a wagon but we got some the best teams coming up so no pug do we have to have a conversation about mr. pear. Oh, he sucks. Mr. Pear is ice cold. He sucks. And guess

what? Ever honestly, it was, it was the AI memes, memes, musher with AI. I don't think he's one since. And memes also, I don't know what it is. It's like he's never watched sports before he starts bragging about Mr. Pear. Like I, there was a game, was it maybe it was game four, the Mavs were up 10 in the first quarter and he's like see mr. Payer it's like dude. It's the NBA. It's a 10-point lead in the first quarter. I Don't blame mr. Payer. I blame memes. I blame memes 100% of the blame is on me. You're spoiling them Memes max touched him. Oh, okay. Okay, that's fair. I'll take that All right.

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