Pardon My Take - Ravens QB Trace McSorley, Maryland Social Media Editor and MNF Recap

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

The game of the year happened on MNF and Lamar Jackson overcame diarrhea to keep the Ravens in the playoff hunt.(2:36-19:33) Giannis signs his mega deal.(19:34-25:14) Hot Seat Cool Throne including Ray Lewis threats and Coach K. (27:12-44:28) Ravens QB Trace McSorley joins the show to talk about MNF, playing with Lamar Jackson, Penn State, Tik Tok and more. (46:54-1:14:33) We have former Maryland Social Media editor Marty Summa on the show to talk about what it’s like to have to tweet through blowouts and the dreaded “Final” tweet. (1:16:02-1:29:07) We finish with holiday FAQ’s (1:31:08-1:48:54)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Trace McSorley from Monday Night Football, the best football game of the year. Do a little cleanup on that, it was awesome. Tons of storylines, great football game, exciting and a terrible, terrible beat. I'm not actually that terrible, we can explain that. We have Yannis signing for a ton of money, $228 million, staying in Milwaukee, Hotsy Cool Throne. We have a social media account manager, how do we say that?

Social media account manager. Manager from Maryland, who actually gave us behind the scenes of what it's like to post horrific football scores against his team. There were like two years when everyone was calling them ninjas, you're always like a social media ninja. That's about as lame as you get, yeah, had a real hot run. And then we have FAQs, holiday FAQs, pack show for you, we're brought to you by our friends at the Cash App. Pardon my take, it's always brought to you by the Cash App, not only is the easiest place to send money to your friends, it's the safest. Especially now that no one is using cash anymore, it's never been safer to send and receive cash because of our friends at the Cash App. And of course, when you download the Cash App and you enter the referral code Barstool, you get $10 for free, $10 to the ASPCA, all by just downloading it.

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Okay, let's go. No place to hang out or wash in, and then I can't live all under the sun. Oh no, we're going to rock down to Elec Trick Avenue, and then we take it higher. Oh, we're going to rock down to Elec Trick Avenue, and then we take it higher. Welcome to part of my take presented by the Cash App. Go download it right now, use code Barstool, you get $10 for free, $10 to the ASPCA today, is Wednesday, December 16th, and Lamar Jackson had diarrhea. Yes, we're just going to run with that. I'm going to run with that, because I get it run.

I choose, oh, let's get all those out of the way first. Hey, big cat, did you hear that Lamar was about to drop the Browns off at the Super Bowl? Oh, that's good. Did you hear that at the end of the game? Wait, no, did the Browns or the Ravens went for that final deuce? Uh-huh. Oh, they went for two. They got that. Well, they got that final deuce to cover the spread, too. Big cat, did you hear that Lamar was running through the bowels of the stadium? Dude, it was so bad on Twitter and also-

It was so good, though. It was so good. It was so bad all at the same time. It's also very funny that I kind of wish we had a job in TV for those moments, because if you just make just the most subtle joke, everybody's like, holy shit, dude, that was awesome. No poop joke. And I'll laugh at it. I'm not saying I'm above that, please. If you saw the shots that they did at the three-man booth, it was greasy, it was Steve Levy, and it was Lewis Reddick.

And Steve Levy had, no pun intended, the biggest shit-eating grin on his face, because he knew what was going on. He knew what the conversation was, and he knew that he couldn't say it, much like the JPP hand stuff when he knows that he can't say that. He was just sitting there smiling and letting the other two guys talk, and he was looking at the camera like, Lamar right now is shitting. I want to say it. You want to hear it. Everyone thinks it. Everyone's thinking about it. I was shitting. I was upset because I had to go take a crap. I left my phone out on the couch. I come back. Lamar is missing game time.

I had cramps during the game. Lamar is missing game time. I had just missed the fact that Lamar was taking a poop while I was taking a poop, so I understand how it must have been for him. My big question is, why didn't Lamar just stay in the game and have diarrhea in his pants? He should have done that, because maybe he probably had cramps and he's probably telling the truth. It would make him way less likely to get tackled if he had just a big stain. Miles Garrett's hitting him over the head with his own diaper. Wait, did Miles Garrett come back in the game? He got hurt.

His elbow got rolled up on, I don't know. His elbow got fucked up. I mean, with all the shit that was going on. It was chaos. The loser of the entire night, because I don't even, we'll talk about the game in a second, the loser of the entire night isn't even the Browns. It's the fact that Paul Pierce's entire legacy is just anytime someone might go to the bathroom during a game. Guy won a title, tons of all-star games, and he was trending. Then Lamar even said, I didn't pull Paul Pierce. I actually had cramps. I do imagine Paul Pierce just mining his own business, trying to watch football, and then all of a sudden he's trending.

He probably knows that when he trends. It's either somebody got stabbed or somebody had diarrhea during a game. Everyone's getting their jokes off on Paul Pierce. So the actual game was phenomenal. The Browns, I hate to do this again because we talked about it on Sunday with, what game do we say both teams won? Oh, the Dolphins, the Chiefs. That kind of was a both teams win game because the Ravens needed the win, obviously, to get into the playoffs. They have to kind of win out here. But the Browns, when they're down 14 in the second half, and again, they're down with like two minutes left, those are Brown's times to just be the Browns. You know what I mean? Even the two-point conversion that tipped off of, I think, Cream Hunt's hands and

went into Donovan people's Jones hands. Those are Brown's moments that don't go their way, and yeah, they lost, but you lost to Justin Tucker being a fucking monster and being able to kick it from anywhere. The Browns were impressive in that game. Baker looked good, composed, like he had a bad interception, bounced back from it. I don't know. I just, I like what the Browns do. I think Stafansky's an awesome, awesome head coach. The only thing you could fault them with is they scored too quick, and I do believe in that. Yeah. I mean, they scored too quick to end the game, especially with a kicker like Justin Tucker on the other side. So the only reason that it's not also a win for the Browns is that the entire City of Cleveland's mind goes to looking at the

rest of their schedule right after the game's over, because now, doubt has crept in, like a little bit of doubt, a little bit of doubt, but that's all it takes for a Browns fan. Jeff D. Lowe in the D stands for doubt. Yeah, brutal is what I'm sure Jeff D. Lowe just kept repeating to himself, brutal loss, brutal, absolutely brutal loss, but your mind does go to a bad place if you're in this situation, right? Your record right now is nine and three, and when you see nine and three, you're like, we're an awesome team. And the Browns are a fun team. Those Browns from last week can win the Super Bowl. The Browns from parts of the second half last night could win the Super Bowl. The Browns at the very end of the game, not going to be able to win the Super Bowl,

but your mind goes to the place like we've suffered through every other kind of heartbreak. This would be like the season long equivalent of the fumble. And they have to win two games, right, to get in. No, they could win one and get in. Maybe, but they need some help if that were to happen. They could win one and get in, and they do have the Jets. They've got the Jets. That's pretty, that's pretty much 10 wins. They have 10 wins. And then maybe the Steelers in week 17 aren't playing Ben. Maybe, maybe they beat the Browns next weekend, but that's why it doesn't feel like a double win, because if you're a Browns fan, you think like this has happened before we might be fucked. I still think the Browns are going to make the playoffs. I wouldn't be too concerned, but it's

definitely a possibility right now. The other, remember the dolphins too have a pretty tough schedule coming up because I think they played the Patriots, the Raiders and the Bills. So there's going to be your, I don't think the other nine and six teams or sorry, nine and four teams are all going to run the table here. You know what I mean? So like that would be, you kind of, if you can wait, beat the Jets and then win one of those other two games, you'll be okay. You'll be set. Yeah, but that, that's where their mind goes. And I understand it because it's happened them before. Absolutely. I also thought it was pretty sweet when at the end of the first half, they threw that Hail Mary and Baker was, he did the coolest thing ever. He knew he was on TV. He

knew America was watching me. He just starts pointing down. He was like, go deep. He's saying like, go deep three times. He threw it 70 yards. Then he just threw it out of the end zone just to be like, what's up? He's got a hose. I got a hose out here. He's got an absolute hose. And then on, so yeah, the Browns, I agree with you. The doubt creeps in a little bit here. Their defense is not good, but they're offense. Like you wanted Baker to have a game where he bounces back from that bad interception, prime time game, Ravens have a good defense, all those things. The Ravens survive. Lamar Jackson makes like, Lamar Jackson still misses throws that he should make, but he also is when he gets hot, he's a playmaker pretty much like unlike anyone else except Mahomes.

You know, he, he, that, that play he had where he comes back in and forth down and throws it deep. The play at the end of, was it the first half when, when he scrambles and throws it deep and they score at the end of the first half, like he makes plays that very few guys can make. He also misses a lot of guys. Also Hollywood Brown drops everything. So I think if you're the Ravens, you're like, Hey, we can get hot here down the stretch. And if we can get a little mojo, we're going to be back in this picture because other than the, like it's the chiefs and then everyone else is kind of in that good category of the bills. Remember, we move the bills. And then everyone else is good. So it's like, okay, anyone could do this. Yeah. With Lamar, you,

you can't just evaluate him as like a passer, just like a traditional passer because he is, he's made into a better passer when he's running the ball. And when the ball is in his hands, he changes the way that defenses play him. So he's able to like, he's able to engineer easier throws for himself by manipulating the defense thinking he's going to run. And he was awesome running the ball last night. And when he's awesome at running the ball, it makes his passing a lot better. And guess what? Like I've been hard on the Ravens. I still think they're frauds. But what I've always said is I want to see Lamar come back late and he did that last night. So you have to give them credit for that. You can't be a hater when that happens. Both Baker and Lamar had some

bad throws, but they also made some big, big, big time plays. And it was an awesome money football game. We were due for one of those last night's game was life affirming. It was, it was the reason why we watch sports. I texted big cat after the game. I was like, can I request, can I request a post game? I feel bad for asking me. I feel bad for people who don't watch sports tweets. And it was 20 minutes later, I was like, Oh, shit, that was for me. There was one moment in particular that it's going to be seared into my brain because it was as all the Lamar shit was going on. It was as Baker was driving down the field. It's like the Browns fans were awesome. There were people wearing full mascot costumes of giant fuzzy dogs high fiving each other. The Browns go down and score.

The Ravens are stuck in quarterback purgatory. One of them is in the bowels of the stadium. And the Browns go back and score on a pass to Karim Hunt. And then they cut to the pylon cam as Karim hunts extending the ball into the camera of the pylon cam. And I was like, there's no better sport in the world. There's no better television in the world than to be sitting here watching my night football. And on top of all of that, obviously there are, it isn't a packed house, but there was enough weird Browns fans to give us some laughs. We had the Browns and Ravens fans jawing at each other. We had the pumpkin head. We had the sad dog face. Like dog face as it was drinking a somber beer. Yeah, like there was enough of the crowd shots

and Cleveland charm that gave us the full experience. It was just a beautiful night. It was a great, great night. And the only thing I'm going to say, and this is a big time trigger warning for all Browns fans. I make this analogy often, but it is like watching an M Night Shyamalan movie and the dogs in the backyard and he's barking and he's going crazy. And you look out in your backyard and you're like, shut up, fight. Oh, why are you barking? And then you go back inside and just like live your life. Little did you know the boogeyman, the alien, the disaster was coming. And that was why the dog was barking on that dog. You got to get rid of Cody Parkie right now. Cody Parkie will fuck you in the face if the Browns make the playoffs. There is no sure bet

in the entire world than Cody Parkie doing this to the Browns. I said it when, when Cody Parkie double doing, you can go back and listen to the show we did on that Friday. And I was like, I'm nervous about Cody Parkie. I think he's going to fuck us because he did it all year. He's doing it again all year. Cody Parkie will miss a big kick in a playoff game for the Browns and the Browns will have no one to blame but themselves because everyone has alerted you. Everyone has been that dog saying, stop, stop, stop, get rid of him, get anyone else. Do the rabble and don't kick. Yeah. Just do anything but have Cody Parkie kick in a big moment. Spinzone though, for you, it would be better if Cody Parkie got in the game. Now what if, what if Parkie gets in,

hits three uprights and then everyone forgets the double-dog. And then he goes on to the show. Good morning, America. It's the show. There's a car wash. Maybe it goes on Mori. PFC. There's nothing I'm rooting for Mori. Sorry, Browns. So just retract that entire last point. Well, no, I'm rooting for that. I'm rooting for that, but I don't think I can be blamed if it happens because I warned you. Okay. So I gave you the warning. I told you it was going to happen. And if it happens, I'll be the happiest man in the world because then everyone will talk about that and not the double-dog. But I told you that this was coming and that you better be ready for it. And the Browns are just going headfirst into a disaster and they have no one to blame but

themselves. And then there was the ending of the game, the safety that they took to in the game, Jarvis Landry took it. They need to figure out a way to run that play more efficiently because most teams, when they try to run the tossback play at the end of a game, they just keep going backwards and backwards. The trick is you got to find a seam cut and then have some guy that's always behind you that you throw back to. And that's how you open up the game a little bit. Oh, you're very easy. Very easy to do. No, it's impossible to run, but they just catch the ball and then run backwards and then try to keep throwing it backwards. You just kind of give up. Yeah, maybe at some point you can just punt the ball. Can you punt the ball on that?

You can't punt the ball on that. You should try. It was, so I had the Ravens minus three. I was very, very happy. I don't think it's considered like the worst beat ever if you had the Browns only because you went from a push to a loss. You have to go from a win to a loss for it to be true. It's bad. It's horrific. You thought you were getting away with a push. Don't get me wrong. It's bad. But worst beat ever category has to be that you're winning the bet and then all of a sudden you're losing it, not push. Because I was ecstatic. I was very, very happy. That was lucky for me, extremely lucky. The gambling gods will be coming for my ass. But I also push to a win, push to a loss. It feels different than when it shifts all the way. And depending on how much

money you had on it, if you had a unit on it, it's not even that bad because that's a story that you can tell. Like you were on the receiving end of that play. I'd rather lose on that play than be like, oh man, I can't believe I had the under in Raiders Colts. Man, that was a shitty, like who cares about that? It's a normal game. This is a great story. I took the Browns to cover on that Monday Night Football game where Lamar Jackson spent half the time getting rid of the Chipotle that was in his anus. Yep. Pooping himself. All right. We have Tracerx on. What do you say? One thing about the game. What are we forgetting? What one thing? Scorgami. Yeah. Scorgami. Gotta give love to the nerdy. I was so happy for you. You were the

real winner. What are the New York Times Scorgami bots say the percentages of Scorgami happening would be? I don't know, but this was the 1,061st unique score. There is something so unique and thrilling about the post, like after the zeroes, safety or touchdown, where that moment where you're like, are they going to count it? Because they actually had that moment where they didn't put it up on the scoreboard. And Levi said 45 to 42 first. Yeah. And we all were like, wait, they had because party thinks like they could just walk off and just let it just go and be 45, 42. And that was that's a heart stopping moment, unbelievable moment. And if you miss the whole game, well, here's the recap. Lamar Jackson proved why he was named MVP of the league last year.

He came out of the locker room after being injured, went on a game winning drive, and put his team in a position to win. Justin Tucker hit the field goal to seal the win. That's Magic Johnson's recap. Okay. Good recap. Thank you, Magic. Magic is parodying himself. He's a blogger now. That was he logs in and he writes a blog about what happened last night in sports. Justin Tucker hit the field goal to seal the win is the most boring way to describe an awesome play. By the way, I call bullshit on 10061 different scores. How's that pot? It's not as that possible. There aren't that many numbers. There aren't that many numbers. We're going to say, Billy, you know, math, Bill, we're being positive vibes for Billy.

It is 5pm. No. You'll understand that later on in the show. Like possible scores that have happened. Yes. And I'm aware how it works. I'm just saying my brain says, okay, teams can score in between one and a hundred points on one side, and then one and a hundred points on another. Correct. That should only be 200 different scores. And really, it's only like 15 scores. It's like 1410. Yeah. 17, 20, 24. They're not football numbers. So I dispute those facts. Yeah. That actually is totally made up. What if score economy was a fraud this whole time? Like who would actually check it? No one. That would be hurt, but you would live in a house of cards, house of lies. We've discussed

this offline off the show, but it is kind of participation trophy culture that some sports books are giving money to people that way. I hate that. I hate that participation trophy culture. Yeah. No, no. Barstool Sportsbook will not do that. We've actually had that conversation with Dave. Because then it's just every time you lose, you're like, where's my free money? No, you want the scars. The scars are what make it fun. Being able to say that you lost that bet makes it fun. Not like, oh, I lost that bet, but also I got free money back. Come on. Come on. It's all just for what? A Revell tweet. By the way, Revell pretending like he's not going to hedge his bet of Ohio State minus 20. It's like, bro, you have to put down like $100,000, whatever.

I'm not even going to get mad. Not going to get mad. Haven't thought about this. Not going to get mad. Okay. Giannis. Giannis got paid. Back. Five years. 226 million. Yes. 228.2. Whose count? 228.2. I think this is actually great for the league. Oh, you're great for the league guy. Oh, yeah. I like it. Absolutely. If you can't, you can't win these arguments because Twitter is just so knee jerk. But if you have ever criticized hyperteams and then you criticized Giannis for staying in Milwaukee, hyperteams, hyperdrive, superteams, and then you criticized Giannis for staying in Milwaukee, you're a hypocrite. I think that's why I said hyper because I was getting a hypocrite. Yeah. I think it's great

for Milwaukee. Yeah. If I'm a, if I'm a Bucks fan, obviously like I'm going to be pumped about this, but is, and I don't think that Giannis is the type of guy that will pull James Harden like three years from now. I think he might. Three years from now, if they're not winning, you think he's just going to be like, I'm leaving. Yeah. Because I don't think you take the money and then you worry about the rest of it. Couple first round exits. Yes. Yes. That will change a man. I think Giannis is happy in Milwaukee. I think we need to applaud players like Giannis. No, I am. I'm applauding him, but, but let's just be realistic here. He still hasn't out because it's the NBA and any player can say I won out at any time, but you have to take him taking the money is good for

Milwaukee right now. It's good for Giannis. It's a win-win and that's not respect. It's a win for the league because you have a little bit more parody. You have the small market teams like teams drafting a superstar and be able to hold on to them is important for the league. I really believe that. But with all that said, if they get bounced like four years in a row, he'll be like, yeah, I'm out. What do you think Giannis is going to buy? And we know his name is Giannis, but we call him Giannis. What do you think he's going to buy with all that money? That seems like a shit load of money for a guy. Like he just got introduced to smoothies two years ago. Yeah. The problem is he lives in Milwaukee, so he'd go to cruising chubbies a lot. He could buy cruising chubbies.

He'd go to the Dales, right? Yeah. He can go to the Dales. The Dales. The Dales. I like the Dales. Yeah. The Dales he can eat a shit load of bubble burgers. Yeah. He could probably buy the entire pack of all the shares, right? Yeah. He could invent a new Bloody Mary at Soblemans that has a Euro in it. You know, he should do just turn like Culver's the entire shit load of Culver's the entire coast of Milwaukee. Turn it into the Mediterranean just by like 50 yachts and a new sun. Yeah. It just sits on top of it. Yeah. Build a sun. Build a sun. Pay for the brightest light bulb to ever be invented. Yes. I do. I do appreciate Twitter being like if I were in the NBA, I would play for like 5 million just in and get rings. Yeah. Like in and the idea that Giannis, I think he

could have made 100 like 80 ish if he had went somewhere else. Instead, he's making 228 being like, dude, what do you need that extra 50 million for? It's like, well, that's a lot of money. And that's like this is a guy who went from nothing to having wealth for his family for generations. That's pretty fucking cool. He also strikes me as a guy that appreciates the fact that the bucks they they didn't you know, he wasn't the first overall pick. They invested time into him and they like they worked with him because they saw something in his future tried to develop and into a great player. And obviously, like he was probably, Giannis was probably going to become a great player anyways. But I feel like he's got a little bit of loyalty to the team

because they went through that time together where he wasn't a superstar. Yep. And so yeah, it's good. I was going to say it's good for Milwaukee, but I like you being a good for the league guy. Yeah, no, it's good for the league. I truly do believe that because you don't want, I mean, we don't want four teams to have all the best players. You also it is nice to have small market teams compete because otherwise it just becomes like, okay, the heat and the Lakers and the Knicks and the Nets are going to play every single year. I don't know. It's good for the league. I'm in for it. I'm in for it and good. Happy for Giannis. Happy for Milwaukee. I mean, I don't like the bucks, but I'm happy for it. I know fans, I'm friends with fans of the

bucks and they have been stressed for a long time about this. They have been like dealing with the jokes, with the conversations. We've said this before, but like the idea that the NBA has become a league where you talk more about the off season than the real season, where it's not Giannis is about to win an MVP. It's where is Giannis going to go? That sucks if you're a Bucks fan. So to have that pressure kind of released for a little bit is probably nice. I'm just glad that we don't have to endure eight months of teams putting up these like weird transactions, like fans of teams going to the trade machine and being like, who says no to this? Like shipping the entire Phoenix Suns and doing something like working out the sign and trade match with all these weird contracts. I'm

just excited we don't have to deal with any of that. So yeah, he's going to stay in Milwaukee and he's going to lose to the heat in the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah. And they're going to, yeah, they'll start basically letting him shoot threes in the playoffs and blocking him from going to the rim and the Bucks will get bounced. I like this. Their general manager, John Horst, said this is our Super Bowl. We work every day of every year to have great processes and decision making filters. We go through them and there's confidence in that. So this is their Super Bowl. Congratulations to the Milwaukee Bucks for winning the Super Bowl. And just one last note, just a reminder that every single team scouted Giannis except the Nex. They're the only team that

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amounts. He'll find his way back. Lamar. Really? Yeah. I don't think so. For sure. LeVar called the Pistons Arroganties Health franchise. So, you know, he had his, he had his like week where he had all three sums in the NBA. So I guess, I guess he can say he's a man of his word. He was proven correct. Yeah. And I mean, to be able to call that shot and actually have it work out, I, I gained respect for LeVar ball this off season. How can you not? The odds of that happening are very, very, very, very low. And he called it and it happened. Making fun of him getting cut is a little baller move. Big time little baller energy. And my cool throne is Coach K. So he's been getting a lot of heat on these airwaves, especially and just all over the world. Deserve

it. But the coach that came out and criticized him, the Alabama coach, he apologized. Jeff Cable, who's just another coach. Coach K probably tried to have him killed. Who's just a Pittsburgh coach or just a coach in another conference. That, that doesn't matter. Breaking moves. That's, it's just not Jake's trying to break insignificant moves. Duke star freshman Jalen Johnson out and definitely with a foot injury. According to John Ross, he nine seconds ago. That has nothing to do with my cool throne. Nice little, let's get all our best guys injured. So we'd be like, wow, we dealt with injuries. Yeah. Maybe, maybe Coach K should have changed his shoe contracts after Zion, huh? You know who hasn't complained and their team sucks, Cal. Kentucky

is terrible. Coach K has not complained. Cal has not complained. Neither has Coach K. He just cares about the safety of his players. Jeff Cable, who's another, just another coach. Uh, no, he's just another coach in the leagues. Showing respect for the coach. I don't know. He said, for me, I get really upset by it because how much I care about him. Uh, the one coach in particular that made a comment. It was interesting because I know exactly what coach did for him. I know it because I was the one that helped facilitate it. It's disappointing. Yeah. Facilitate what? Yeah. Him getting a job. No, that's class. So he got a job. Coach K got this guy a job as an assistant for, uh, Hurley at Buffalo. And then this guy came in and tried to talk to him about

Coach K. He apologized. That is, that is Jeff Cable. Coach K was proven right once again. Very, very clearly giving a wink and a nod. It'd be a real shame if all the secrets about this guy were to come out. A real shame. He threatened him. He threatened Natoats in public. Yeah. He was like, I know where Natoats came from. I know how he got his job. God forbid, someone started talking about the things that are in Natoats' closet. That's Donald Trump saying, be careful, Ted Cruz. I will spill the beans about your wife and your dad. Put some respect on Coach K's name and that's exactly what he did. So Coach K is back. And also Jeff Cable translation. I still would love to have the Duke job after I'm done at Pitt. Oh, a million percent. This is him making sure that he's in

line for this. Hey, coach, I still love you. Let me kiss that ass. Real shame if Oates were to find a horse head in his bed. Is that it, Hank? Coach K is threatening people with threatening blocks. Coach K standing marathon presented by Henry Lockwood. No, I'm just trying to defend one of the greatest coaches of all time on the number one sports podcast. He deserves that respect. My hot seat is all the haters of Roger Goodell. All the haters that think that Roger Goodell is a bad human being who doesn't do the right thing all the time because I think that we should say thank you. I think we should be appreciative of Roger Goodell for saving lives, probably thousands of lives by not having NFL employees skip the line to get the coronavirus

vaccinations first. I don't know if you've noticed this, but it was mentioned like five times over the weekend. It was on ESPN a couple of times. It was on Monday Night Football. The announcers saying Goodell has made the announcement that he will not have his employees go to the front of the line as essential service workers to get the coronavirus. We've got to figure it out that we're just pretend it doesn't exist. We're good. So thank you to Roger Goodell. No, I just think that it's funny that like he had to issue a release saying we're not going to take spots in the vaccination line away from people that need the disease even though we are the NFL and we're more important than everybody else in the world. Is it crazy that I actually,

so people are going to get mad if the NBA or the NHL cuts the line, right? Obviously, they'll get mad. Yeah. But I actually don't think that that's that bad. Like hospital workers, 100% need it first. Bill's fans. Every year, Bill's fans and hospital workers need it first. But if your goal is to get people to sit inside and not go out, like being like, let's make sure sports happen, it's kind of a decent way to do it, right? So like the back end admin at Pornhub, that guy should get it too. Yeah, I do think if you want Pornhub's actually on the hot seat. I forgot about that. Yeah, is criminal. Well, actually, they're trying to save against criminals Hank. Oh, wait, you're saying they're

on the hot seat because they deleted all that porn? Yeah, Hank doesn't know why they do. Yeah, he doesn't at all. So you want to take that back before we tell you? No. Okay. Okay. So it's like human trafficking. Yeah. Revenge porn recording people who are like under the influence or under certain ages. They basically let anybody upload anything. Right. So did YouTube want to take that back? And they didn't have much verification. So there's federal crimes that were on there that got deleted, as opposed to the only fans which like actually takes a long time to get an account. We know that. Where they verify. This is Hank, are you? Hank's still mulling it over. Yeah, he still might be. Think about it. He's still kind of into that. No. This is why I only watch

Milk Stuff. If you only watch Milk Stuff, then you're never going to be putting yourself in danger accidentally doing the wrong thing. My cool throne is outside beers, outdoor beers. It's outdoor beer season. It's about to what? What's that? It's cold out. That's if you let me finish, Hank. When it's snowing outside, when it's cold outside, you don't have to take up space in your refrigerator. You leave the beers outside. It's God's refrigerator. You crack open a beer directly from your porch and it tastes colder than it does in the fridge. So it's the best season of all, especially if there's snow and you can like bury them halfway and you can see where they fell into the snow. So like even though it snowed a little bit more on top of the beers, you go outside and

you see the indentation and you know exactly where to reach in to grab a cold one. Those are the best beers in the world. That's a great call. Yeah, thanks. Oh, there you go. All right. My hot seats is holy shit. FSU Florida State put up a banner. I saw this up. Was that real? FSU hung a 2020 canceled with the number four final ranking banner. Ray the culture now off the hook. Yeah, the culture off the course. Wow. I thought that was fake. Wait, I thought that was fake. No, it's it's in the video. Jesus Christ. Come on, FSU. Have some pride. Have some pride. All right, my hot seats is oh, he deleted it. Did you see Ray Lewis last night? So Ray Lewis last night LeBron was like, look at these Browns. Here they come. Ray Lewis quote to him and said,

be careful to LeBron. Oh, God. And everyone roasted him. I guess he deleted it. But my hot seat is LeBron because yes to Ray Lewis. He had him be careful. Jesus. Can you imagine like how stupid is Ray Lewis? Him and OJ are the guys I'd least likely I'd least like to get quote tweeted by be careful. That's all he said to LeBron. We don't be more scary than that if it was just the eyeballs. Yeah. And the knife knife emoji. Yeah, that would be pretty scary. But yeah, Ray Lewis to be careful. Um, all right, then my cool throne is us. We're on the cool throne sweet because we have been protected by our good, great intern and friend Billy football. He protects us. What? You protect us. Thank you, Billy. Last night we were texting the PMT

text chain was popping off. And I asked Billy a question. He screen shot it and sent it back to us. And we noticed that all of our names were saved as female names. What was mine? Daniela canis Daniela canis. You have to change him. Hank was Henrietta. You were something. I was Lori. Lauren. Lauren Levi was taken Liam. So Hank's Henrietta lockwood keystone cause lock key. Okay, nice. I never would have. Everyone just for a second. This is inside the mind of a genius. Lauren Levi's Marlins woman. Okay, what about me, Daniela canis is Daniela canis can Latin name for dog. Yeah. Got it. Why dog? Yeah. Yeah. And then what about Jake and Liam? I think I just have them in as their names. All right. So you also have the group name

as well. That was the thing. So he I was appreciative that you're protecting us because essentially you're saying if your phone gets stolen, you don't want people calling us. Right. But Hank did point out right away. The group name that all these names are in is PMT full group. Right. But I didn't create that. Yeah. To be fair, that's what it is on your phone too. And my phone. But if someone took his phone, they would be able to see me at the phone. This was more for when I was in college and like, like in the real world. Well, that's cause yeah, remember when we gave you our phone numbers and like took you like three weeks of college to FaceTime us all at two in the morning. That was one time. And it didn't actually happen.

Oh, when you tweeted, I didn't FaceTime any of you. You FaceTime me at two in the morning. Your first week of college. Fact. Anyway. But I do appreciate it, Billy. Very Billy. Cyber secure. Yes. I appreciated that. I thought it was very cool of you. So thank you cool through on us. I think you need to add that slide to your cybersecurity PowerPoint. Yeah. I just imagined some hacker being like PMT full group and then being like Daniel canis now that can't be who is Henrietta. Yeah. This is some other this is some group of chicks. All right. Billy. Hot seat. Obviously. Conor McGregor. I mean, why? Jake Paul called him out. He said some really mean things about him and Dana. Wait, wait. And yeah. So Jake Paul,

like calm people out doing drive-bys on people. It's a toilet paper drive by a head of lettuce at somebody through like wire balloons. Yeah. Anyway, everyone's mad at him. Nate Diaz threatened Jake Paul, sort of all just out in the open getting crazy. Jake Paul called Conor McGregor's wife for that's fucked up. Like especially if she's actually a four. I don't know what she I don't know what she looks like, but she's very beautiful. Yeah. Billy, do you not want to fight somebody? I did. Okay. So what are you going to do? I don't know. Would you fight Conor McGregor? He's pretty big. No. Conor McGregor would beat the shit out of you. Well, you have to be ready to fight the guy that your guy is going to fight. So you can

like you're ready. I have an idea. Basically, we need to get into contact with Dana White and Robert Kowski. Okay. Oh, Billy's ideas are like, how can I leverage PFT and just catch a phone book? Billy's like the MacGyver of Bros. Like in order to make something happen. Okay. I need, I need, I need Kagan Milwaukee's best and Dana White and Gronk's phone numbers. If we get a Kallie brother, that would be great too. Like, if we get all these celebrities, he's challenging just to be like, you know, dude, shut up and fight Billy. Like, I don't know why. Like to get him to shut up. It would kind of be like the Ken State, like, like you shit yourself at a frat party. Right. You can't say gun girl just like, shut up. So we need to make up a rumor

about Jake Paul. Yeah. He's scared to fight me. He is scared to fight you. That's what I heard. Yeah, I heard that. That's not a rumor. That's a fact. Yeah. He texted, he texted Billy and was like, I'm scared to fight you. Anyway, I'll tweet it right now. Is it true that Jake Paul's scared to fight Billy? Anyway, one step closer to me beating his ass. She's a fraud. My cool throne is being stubborn. Yeah. There's a treasure hunter who's been imprisoned for going on five years because he found a bunch of treasure and will not give up its location. What's the crime? I don't know. I think it's because it belongs to technically like the government. That's bullshit. If it's treasure, it's yours. Finders keepers. Yeah. I don't think that's

practical law. It should be. If something is lost for longer than a week, whoever finds it should own it. So he is going to be spending it for a decade. He took on a case for 161 investors. So basically he was paid to go find the treasure, found the treasure, and it was probably under stipulation that he would give them the treasure and he's just not telling them where the treasure is and he's trying to keep it for himself. Oh, this sounds like a kick-ass sequel to that Nicholas Cage. I like that. Yeah. I like that a lot. What's that movie? What's that movie? I just saw like a month ago. Sahara. No. No. National Treasure. National Treasure. It's already a great sequel for that. Yeah. Which I need to watch. Steal the Declaration of Independence. Jake, do you have any?

Always. Yeah. Hot seat periscope. It's being discontinued in March. What? Do they have a porn issue too? Why? I don't know. Twitter made the decision to... Oh, it's just Twitter Live? Yeah. It's going to be Twitter Live. So great memories of the Cotcave Derby. Yeah. Twitter does... They choose the wrong thing to do and do it more than any company that's ever existed. This one though, I kind of understand because what... Maybe not Dow Chemical. Periscope. Periscope doesn't... Like Twitter should just have periscope. Yes. It's Twitter Live. And they should have Vine. Right. Yes. Twitter looks at their product. Jack, fucking Jack goes on his billionaire retreats once every six months and just like waterboards

himself with cat piss for six weeks. And then he comes back with the worst ideas ever to get rid of their best stuff and then add new stuff no one cares about. Cool throne. Nickelodeon. We've been teasing the game. Yes. All season long, but they gave out some details today. Shout out to my friend Noah. He'll be calling it. The SpongeBob. What? Yeah. He's calling the game. Noah Eagle? Eagle? Yeah. He's calling it? Yeah. On Nickelodeon? Damn. Yeah. It's like partnering with CBS. Nice. Big ups. With Nate Burleson. Big ups. Yeah. Also shout out Bob Diocchio for figuring for like seeing the future. So we need slime. There's going to be SpongeBob in the uprights because yellow. Yeah. It's going to be a fun broadcast. I wish that this was the only

way you could watch it. I don't like that you have an opt out version. Jim Nance is doing the game too. Yeah. CBS. They should go all in and make everybody make every adult watch the Nickelodeon version. Yeah. It'll be fun. They should do Color Rush where it's the was it the red iguanas and the blue barracudas as games. Yeah. That'd be sick. I really do hope this is the start of like everything that Bob Diocchio like thought was going to happen starts to happen. He's the prophet. So we have the civil conflict. UCF finally recognizes civil conflict. He said I think it was four or five years ago. I got all kinds of ideas on networks networks. Let's target six year olds to 16 year olds. How about that. Eventually they're going to be 18 to 35.

Let's broadcast our games on Nickelodeon. Who owns that Viacom. Let's create some real intrigue. He said that. Yeah. He's a fucking genius. He needs to be treated like that. Yeah. They're having the SpongeBob sports pants countdown special and the halftime show will serve as a preview of upcoming SpongeBob spinoff show. Wow. I can't wait. It's going to be fun. I'll be watching that broadcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have to. I mean it has to be the worst matchup. Right. I would say they're going to find a way to get the Texans in that. It could be the NFC beast game. Oh yeah. I would watch that. I would watch. Yeah. The Washington football team. Putting Jim Nantz on probably gets like the same game or something. It could be. I don't know.

What if I throw this to the playoff game. It's not going to be the Bears. We already freaking out. No there is a possibility. It's a very, very, very outside. There's no possibility. That's very, very outside. It can happen. How. You give me 30 minutes on the playoff machine. Go ahead. I'll come back. Do it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Find it. I'm going to find it. Find it. I can't do it live. Do it live. Do you guys watch Double Dare Legends of the Hidden Temple. Oh we had what's his name on. Michael Malley over the summer. Guts. Yes. Yes. All right. We'll cut us looking it up but I'm pretty sure it's impossible. Imagine if they had SpongeBob narrating the game from last night. The poop. What would it sound like? Do it.

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First, let's, let's figure out how is your knee? Are you okay? Yeah. No, I'm doing well. You're, we'll figure out kind of the extent of everything, but so far everything's looking, looking pretty positive. So I'm going to keep our fingers crossed. That, so that was a crazy Monday night football game. Felt bad for you because you did make a big play to even have the Ravens still alive there. And then you obviously don't know how it like plays out on TV, but it was literally Trace McSorley, like hurts his knee. He's down up, but Lamar's back. See a trace. Yeah. People kind of just moved on. Was, how was the, was the field as bad as like they were

making out to be? I mean, guys were definitely slipping last night. I mean, I know there were a couple of times Lamar slipped a little bit. I think he even changed his cleats at one point. And we got into halftime. They were, you know, they had different cleats for guys in there. So I think, you know, guys are slipping around, but I mean, it kind of is what it is a little bit. How much different is it as a quarterback to have to wear the studs, the long ones, because they were saying, the announcers were saying how, you know, no quarterback wants to be forced to change out their normal cleats because they'll make your feet hurt or something like that at the end of the game. For you personally, is it like a big deal to change out of those, out of their shoes?

Yeah. Like just having like, you know, the, the cleats that you have, they're like broken in and then trying to break in a new pair of mid game. You can bother your feet a little bit. So like I left the ones on that I had. So maybe I should have changed them out just for the other cleats, but um, yeah, I think it's just kind of like personal preference really. Like if you don't mind breaking in a new pair of cleats in the game, then you probably will switch it. I think it's just each guy has his own different preference. All right. So you're in the trust tree. Are you wearing a part of my take hoodie? Can I see that? Uh, yeah. Oh, there we go. Perfect. All right. So you're in the trust tree. You can speak freely. Tell us the truth. Lamar was pooping.

No, he wasn't. It was, it was cramps. He, he wasn't pooping. Well, cramps part, yeah, of the body was the intestine. Yeah. Well, it was like, he said it was like his forearm was cramping. And then is he, that run they, everyone saw where it looked like a poop run. Yeah. Yep. Lock room. It was like, it's, it's calf or something was cramping. So he's trying not to like, they had to lock up on them. Great. You're a great backup quarterback. That's a great teammate move. That's smart. You, Trace just winked at us. So you know the truth. Yep. He's doing, he's doing a motion, like a wipe in his butt motion. So he's clear that, yep. Okay. We got it. So I'll ask you hilarious stuff. After the game, coming out like the internet was,

they're all over that was so funny. I don't know what it says about us just as a society or as an online group of people that everybody just assumed like Lamar was back there just crapping his brains out. And that's what was happening. But we all just kind of ran with it. Let me ask this in a different way. When you went back to the locker room after, after your knee got tweaked a little bit, how many candles were lit in the locker room for please, for maybe what it's, what did the locker room smell like? See they, they do always have candles lit by the stalls. So I can't tell if they were newly lit ones, but they do always got candles lit by the stalls in the locker room. Interesting. So, so last night's game was so, so much fun. It was probably

game of the year in the NFL. And it was also one of those great nights where Twitter was going crazy. Everyone was having fun. When you get back after a game like that, maybe a little different because you got hurt last night, but you've been in crazy games. Do you like sit down and take a 10 minutes to try to catch up on everything and be like, Holy shit, I missed a lot of commentary about this game. Oh yeah. There's a little bit of that. Like, you know, you get, get back, you like get back on the bus and you kind of have that time to decompress a little bit, check out your phone, see what's been going on, scroll through Twitter, Instagram, and you know, catch up on messages. So I mean, to be able to see like the internet's response to last night

game, obviously it was a crazy game just back and forth. Just great football game on Monday night in general, but then seeing, you know, the internet's responses to it, it's pretty cool to be able to do that. And you know, just kind of see what the internet has to say. What, uh, so backup quarterback, uh, like you've been in a couple of games now, how, what's it like on the sideline being like, I might be in any minute. Do you have, is it hard to stay ready during a game? Like how do you mentally stay in the game knowing there's probably a good chance you're not going to play, but you could like last night be thrown into it. Monday night football game, national television. Yeah. I mean, part of it is just,

you know, trying to stay mentally locked in. So like we got the earpiece, get the call from like the, you know, know what play we're running from our OC and then trying to do like a mental rep every time as best you can. Just so you know, you're staying locked in and staying ready. Um, but yeah, it does get a little bit, a little bit difficult at times. And then just really just trying to stay warm, especially on like a night like last night, it's cold out there. Just trying to stay heated up and loose and ready whenever. And then I always like to keep like a smelling salt with me. Just kind of, if I need to need to be ready to go, just hit that and then lock in real quick. I love it. So now you are wearing that backup head set. So you get to hear all

the plays coming in. You get to hear, I would assume Greg Roman and Harbaugh talking about what to do in certain situations. How often do they try to call a punt and then Lamar runs over the sideline and it's like, Hey, we're not punting. Please send me back out there. Um, I mean, I don't see it. I don't hear the conversations between them because all I hear is like the player to coach. So whatever he's saying to Lamar, I could hear that. But I mean, I think any time we go out there, Lamar wants to go score a touchdown. Um, so if it's a, you know, short yard situation, fourth and short and we're fringe, field goal, punt range, Lamar is going to try his best to not let me go for this and go get a touchdown or at least get

us closer for the field goals. I think that's just his personality. And maybe it's happened a few other times and they've caught on camera where he's been able to kind of sway a decision to let us go for it. But, uh, you know, hardball likes to be aggressive and you got a guy like Lamar, you're trusting to make the play and more often than not, it's worked out for us. So, uh, in the off season, they bring in, it's you, RG three and Lamar. Uh, I think it's probably fair to say that like Lamar and RG three have a skill set that is rare in the NFL, right? They will be able to run the same offense. Um, and then you are a new guy. They bring in, did they try to, was Greg Roman like, Hey, we're going to have you learn the exact same offense that these other

guys are learning? Or is there, is there a trace package that when you come in the game, it's like, Hey, this is what we're going to do. No, it's a, Hey, this is our offense. Uh, this is what we do. And, uh, being able to that, you know, I might not be the same skill set as them, you know, athletically at what they can do, but I can still run around to still do some of my legs and kind of be a threat to defense. So, uh, you know, we got our offense and you know, we, that is what it is. So it doesn't, and I think that's a good thing that we got so that we don't have to change our entire offense based on in a situation where some guy has to go in, uh, because the guys got cramps and we're able to go in and not change up our entire offense. We just run the same system.

Yeah. You ran a four, five, seven, 40 in the combat. Did you get asked to work out with the DBS? Yeah, they did ask me to work out them. That's disrespectful. What did you, when they said that, did you, you were like, no, I'm a quarterback? Uh, yeah. They like kind of pulled me aside and they were like, Hey, you know, some coaches, scouts want to see you as a DB. Would you mind staying after and, you know, doing some DB drills? And I told them that, you know, I've, I've been working out as a quarterback and that's what I'm here to do is just be a quarterback and kind of just told them I appreciate it, but, uh, I'm going to be a quarterback. I like that. I like that. Um, how much of your success do you put into your, uh, parents having

to wear with all to give you the name trace, the nickname trace, even though your given name is Richard, because the story is your parents were like, we don't want you to be little Ricky or Richard or Ricky. And they saw trace Armstrong on TV and we're like, we're going to name you trace. So that, I mean that, I do think I'm a big name guy. I think that has a lot to do with it. Have you had that moment where you're like, if I were Ricky McSorley, I'd probably not be in the NFL. Yeah. I mean, I think it definitely set me on a path. Uh, you know, I think being that you trace Armstrong, great football player, and that's kind of where my parents got the name. I think you just sent me on a path towards football. Um, and then, you know, you know, Ricky McSorley's trace McSorley,

I think Trace McSorley's got a little bit of better ring to it as a player. So, um, I think that, yeah, you could probably give a little bit of credit to just the fact they picked my name and set me on the path towards, towards football. Yeah. Trace McSorley is a great name. Now, what about, uh, the fact that you, your name keeps going viral on tiktok? Like you were a tiktok thing. Billy was explaining to us, our intern, uh, he was like, do you guys know who Trace McSorley is? Everybody's talking about him, tiktok. And we're like, yes, Billy, we know who Trace McSorley is because we've watched college football before. It was worse that Billy was like, you didn't know who Trace McSorley was till I brought him up. I was like, dude, I, I'm a Wisconsin fan. You ripped

my heart out in the 2016. Yeah, we were at that game. That's not true. That is not true. That's not true. So, so how much of Trace, I've known about you since 2016. When you play, uh, I can't name the game right now because I'm freezing it up whenever. Billy's known about you since 2016. He wants to clarify. Thank you, Billy. Uh, but when you first started blowing up on tiktok, was it weird for you initially? Were you like, what's going, why is this becoming such a thing? Yeah, I didn't know what was going on. So like, I, I just got like a tiktok profile, like download the app, like not long, like a week ago. So like, I hadn't had it. I woke up one morning and like, all these people were sending me this video that this kid made with like the song that,

uh, the dude made when I was in college and I mean, it just kind of blew up and I started seeing it on like Instagram, Twitter, like it was all over the place. And I didn't know what was going on. Um, so I mean, it was just, it was really weird and random. How it kind of all came about. How does it go, Billy? Throw it on a dime. Throw it on a dime. That's just a kid from Bradwood. Can you say the whole thing? It's a really good song. It is. Maddie Fresh. Can you say it, Trace? I've heard it a bunch of times. I'm not a singer though. Billy, tell him he's singing to us. Yeah, I think Billy's got it. Yeah. I have a, so I have a question. He just asked you to sing it. I was just wondering, did you know about the song by Maddie Fresh or,

you know, like this random guy makes a song in, was it just out of left field or did you know about it while you were playing at Penn State? Yeah, I knew about it. Uh, he made it like my senior year going into my senior year. So I was able to like, they played it. Um, I don't think they ever played at the stadium, but like I saw it on like social media and like, I think the Penn State football, like the, their social media kind of picked it up a little bit going into my senior year. So I definitely saw it. I knew about it beforehand. How electric is a white out in Happy Valley? Cause that is one of the, like when you think about loud crowds, you think about Saturday night football, like LSU, Penn State, maybe, maybe Columbus. Like there are certain stadiums where

you're like, it's just on a different level. Is it like, do you, was it truly a different level? Could you feel how different it was compared to every other stadium you've been in? Yeah, you definitely could. Like it was, it was a completely different feel from like walking into, like even like walking into the big house in Michigan that like they got the big, like they high seating capacity, but like it's not the same like electric type energy that you have like with the white out. And like I played in a few other stadiums like Columbus. Um, Iowa was another one that I was pretty electric playing there. But I still think, you know, obviously I'm biased because I went to Penn State and everything, but I still think that, and from everyone I've talked

to, they said that the, the white out's the best atmosphere that they've ever been in. Like it's one of the things that you have to go to it to like actually experience it. Like it looks awesome and sick on TV, but it's like better in person. Yeah, I can only imagine. Yeah. So you were growing up in Ashburn. Were you, were you an R words fan growing up? Were you a Washington football team fan? Uh, I was, I was there. I mean, you ran into a lot of guys that, you know, I live 50 minutes from the facility. So like, there'd just be a lot of guys around and I would see them kind of around town. So went to like their training camp practice every year as a kid. So I was a Washington football team fan growing up. Yeah. Um, and then so you, yeah, you ended up going to Penn State. You went

to Vanderbilt or you, you committed to Vanderbilt for a while. Who else recruited you out of high school? Uh, so out of high school, most teams recruit me as like a safety defensive back out of high school. Um, the only other quarterback office I really had was like Boston college and like Wake Forest and then Vanderbilt. We needed, we need to set up a, a showdown between you and Lamar have him go up against you at wide receiver and you cover him as a defensive back and just make Bill Polian super happy to see things playing out the way that he thought it was. It's his dream. Yeah. Yeah. It's absolutely his dream. Yeah. Yes. Yes. What does a big trust mean? Cause we, we had Mark Ingram on the show and we know what the trust is obviously, but you

tweeted recently trust. What's that? So like, it's basically just like, uh, like a little more started it and it really like he uses it as like, uh, like I appreciate you or like he uses, like, it's more just a noun. Like it's a noun and a vote at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There's levels to it. So like Mark did the interview where he, you know, had the big trust and that's where it really blew up. Introducing Lamar last year and then it's just kind of taken off. Like I don't know where Lamar got it from, but he like, since he came in, apparently like that's been his thing and he just uses it. So like, I tweeted like, I think yesterday because like Willie had said something about, you know, last night's game or something like that. So like

the way I use it was like, I appreciate you bro. Like, you know, this, like, this is our team, our season. Like it's just kind of like the, our teams like call, I guess. I don't know. It's cool. I mean, I don't think I'm cool enough to say it. So, uh, it's always cool when I see it, though. Um, is your dad one of the scariest looking dudes in the world? When, when he sits out in the sun, he's got, you know, the sun beating on his bald head and the muscles popping out. It, uh, it does. Like he can look a little bit intimidating, but he looks more intimidating than he actually is. He's like an all time jawline guy because I was looking at tweets I've had of you and I, I was like, Trace McSurly's dad is Kelly Slater.

And I was like, why did I say that? And then I went and looked for a picture of your dad. And I was like, Oh, that's exactly why I said it. Bald head, jawline, just chiseled jawline. I'm scared of your father. Yeah. He like, he can't hide any of his emotions because his jawline and like a vein that just pumps in his temple, like get away immediately. Like he didn't say he's not pissed off, but like we can all see like the blood pumping through his skull. And no, like you're upset. Like chill out. Are you familiar with the Trace McSurly's dad Twitter account? It's at Trace dad. Uh, I'm not familiar with the account. No, there's one tweet that says, I'm Trace McSurly's dad. I think that's your dad. So I think your dad's on Twitter is 2017.

Sounds like your dad. Some of your dad would say it adds up. Maybe you can help me out with some because we're trying to figure this out last week on part of my take. There are visor guys that play quarterback and there are guys that don't wear visors at all. Last night, I don't think Lamar was wearing a visor. You were wearing a visor. And I've always thought just from a practical standpoint, doesn't that get smudgy? Like can it make it really, really difficult to see unless you've got somebody that's coming over there cleaning it off almost every 30 seconds? Uh, there's at times it can. Uh, you know, they got like pretty much after every drive, there's like equipment guys going around like spraying them

and cleaning them. And I don't know what they spray on it, but I think it works as like, it doesn't like let it get fogged up because I especially on like a cold night, like you're breathing on the inside of it and like the, you know, hot air from your breath gets like fogged up on the inside of it. So it can make it foggy, but they do a good job of keeping them clean. And I feel like after a while, you just kind of get used to it. Yeah. And that's just like you almost don't even notice that is there. Just a heads up though. We don't think that any quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl wearing a visor. It's true. I guess we got to change that. Yeah. Okay. Be the first. Take off your visor. I mean, I think we got to win it with the visor.

Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. We need someone to do that. It does look cooler. Every time someone has a visor, I'm like, that's, I mean, when you played Madden or any other video games, you always, always add the visor, no matter how ridiculous it looked. No matter what position you play when you created play with the visor. Yup. Reflective ones. Absolutely. Another bet that maybe you can settle, how big is Patrick Ricard? Is he actually over 300 pounds? Yes. That's insane. Yeah. That is definitely over 300 pounds. And he's like jumping over people like leapfrogging him. Yeah. Pat is like, people don't give him like credit for how athletic he is. And like, he's a freak athlete.

But and then like, you see what he does as a fullback, like, you know, just panicking people every game. Like, you know, he catches them flat. And for some reason, DBS will try and tackle them up high and he just like runs through them like they're not there. Like, that's a freak. So you played, you were big into lacrosse too in high school. Did Bill Belichick ever try to get you as a wide receiver? Did he have a conversation with you at the combine? No, I never had a conversation with Belichick about being a wide receiver. But yeah, I did play lacrosse in high school. He was looking at you, just so you know, he was looking at you for sure. I mean, he might have been, he doesn't let anyone know what he's

thinking about with the draft. So I mean, he's, he's got his mind tricks that everyone wants to know what he's up to. So he could have been. Yeah. How much of playing lacrosse was because your name was Trace McSorley and your coach was like, you need to be holding a lacrosse stick. It wasn't necessarily because of my name. It was because I played baseball and baseball got boring for me and I wanted to do something a little more like fast-paced. Too good at it. I liked that. Yeah. Trace McSorley from Virginia. It wasn't too good, I think. It was, I didn't like standing in, you know, in the outfield and a ball gets hit to me once every couple of weeks. What is your favorite game in college? You can't say the 2016 Big 10 championship game.

So that one's off the table. I can't use that one. Cannot use that one. I'll go with the 2017 Whiteout against Michigan. Okay. And you guys, what was the final score? I don't remember the final score. I know we blew them out though. But if it wasn't for that one, which one would you say? 2016 Big 10 championship game. 100% of the time. No, that game was lame. Walk us through what happened at half time of that game. You were lucky, dude. You know you were lucky, too. You just threw jump balls. You threw jump balls. The last one landed right in the stick once in.

You threw jump balls and you were just like, hope this works. Close my eyes. Just throw it up. I know. I was very drunk. So I actually don't really know what to do with it though, too. Throw it to Micah Sticky in the end zone on a corner. I would take that every time. Whatever. Whatever. Billy, did you have another question? Do you want to ask a question about the throne? When I was a senior in high school, that's when you were really going off in 2016. We watched in the upset Ohio State and then the next week he just blew out Purdue. And then we were like, this guy is the real deal. Two questions.

First one, so being a football player in the Northeast, when you're getting recruiting stuff, you hear a lot of rumors about different colleges, recruiting visits, what not. So I heard a rumor about from some Penn State kids who were doing visits at Penn State, and they said that Christian Hakenberg at the time had, you know, at parties would have a huge throne and he was just surrounded by sorority girls who were assigned to him. We heard this rumor and we thought it was like ridiculous, but I've heard it a couple times since. Is there any truth to this? I never saw him on a throne sitting on a throne. Now when he walked in, did everyone like walk into a fraternity party? Did everyone mob him?

Yes. Right. But I never like saw like a legitimate like throne with the shrine and you know, he's sitting on top and everyone's like just, you know, beneath him and all that. I never saw that. All right. So there's two quarterbacks. It's Lamar and Christian. He's never seen on a throne. Yep. Got it. What was the second question? Have you ever been to McSorley's Bar in New York City? I haven't. But we have a beer. If you're in New York City, we should go to that bar. It'd be really fun. That's why I definitely got to take a trip there. I like, I've been wanting to go there, check it out. It's like, you know, that old town, like old time kind of. So definitely got to go there and have a few beers. What's really nice

about that place is if you order just two beers, they bring you out like eight mugs. They bring like six. They bring you out like eight small mugs of beer. So you feel like you're the man once you drink like four of them because it's half a beer basically. And then you order another round and they bring out another like 16 of them. It's awesome. I assume you know this, but Adam Schefter just tweeted that you were placed on the injured reserve. That's the first I knew that. Wait, you didn't know that? Uh, no shit. Okay. Now I feel like a dick. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, I didn't know exactly how long it was going to be. So well, there's only three weeks left.

So I assume, well, this is a terrible moment and pardon my take history. I thought you're going to be like, yeah, you know, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm banged up, but injured reserves. That's not, is that the season over? Shit. No, I mean, I didn't think it was, you know, from what I heard, I didn't think it was going to be season ending injury from what I heard from the docs. So this is, yeah, this is awkward time to maybe it's a rocker thing. Jake, wait, hold on. Jake, our stack guys got some more information. Hold on. According to Mike Florio, you're out for at least three weeks, which means you're done for the regular season, but you can return to return for the post. You'll come back with

that visor and win a Superbowl. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're just talking about. Someone got to do it. Okay. So yeah, we bounce back. Okay. That was a bad moment right there. Yeah. I thought maybe someone had told you and I wasn't breaking news to you right there, but we just broke more news to you that you're back for the playoffs. Yeah. So we'll get, we'll get, make sure Lamar's got his visor on. I'll have mine on just in case and then we could make sure that, you know, we win the Superbowl and now someone's wanting with the visor. Yeah. Slip him some Pepto before every game so that you won't need to be needed. What was your pregame meal last night? Oh, good question. Last night it was a spaghetti and a filet with broccoli. Okay. How, how was the filet cooked?

Medium rare. Was there chili on the spaghetti? No, just marinara sauce. Okay. You were in Ohio. Um, okay. All right. I had one last question. I do apologize for breaking that news to you. That's sock. I suck. Straight up sock by me. The final question is brought to you by cross country mortgage. America's crazy good mortgage company. Go to CCM lens.com slash take to learn more about your future home buying experience or refinancing needs, equal housing opportunity. This is just a lame question and kind of a stupid question, but like being trace McSorley at Penn state, like that was probably pretty sweet, right? Uh, yeah. No, it was, it was cool. I had a bunch of good times there. Can't, uh, can't complain about that. Did you have a moment

where you're walking around on campus maybe after like junior year where you're like, this is awesome. Um, I mean, so like when I first started playing like in 2016, we had like a couple of guys on the team got, there was like a fraternity that got kicked off the campus. So like some of the guys on the team had like moved into there because it was like a lot cheaper rent form. And so that house kind of became like the football fraternity house. So like after big wins, like after the house date went like that place was going nuts, right? Ridiculous. And then like, so I think, yeah, walking, like walking into there and like everyone else is there. I think that was like one of the moments where it was like, yeah, this is pretty cool. Okay. I guess. Yes. How does that

work out logistically? If you have a football house, who's in charge of like splitting up the utilities and being like, Hey guys, can you pay? Is there like a spreadsheet that someone puts together? So like, it was like, it was only like a few guys on the team that actually lived in there. And then it was a bunch of other guys that we were like guys were friends with on campus or new from classic guys that were on the team that decided that football wasn't for them. They wanted to live in there. Um, so they all just split up like the utilities of it. So there's only, they just treated like a normal house with, you know, 12, 15 dudes, however many were in there, living there. And then they just split it all up. Even though I guess I don't know,

they'll just guess how they split all that up. The ultimate man cave. Yes. Yes. That would it was a good place. Yes. One of the best places I've ever been. I think that's, I mean, it's kind of a lame question to ask, but it's also the thing that like every guy thinks about like, what would it be like to be the starting quarterback of a big time college football program and like walking around campus and everyone being like, Oh, that's trace McSorley. Oh, were you there when James Franklin put juice boxes and all the lockers to keep you guys juiced up? Yeah. They were handing those out. They handed those to us as we were like, leaving the hotel to go to the, to the game. Did that work? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It did work.

It worked. Yeah. Yeah. It worked. Yeah. Brought our own juice. You got any other questions, Billy, before we let Trace go? I think you took his last question was how sweet it was. Yeah, that definitely was a Billy question. Billy's just nodding. Billy was a quarterback too, so he kind of knows what it was like to be Trace McSorley at Penn State. Oh, I have one last, last question. Have you ever practiced with RG three and tried to throw football at a tree with him? Throw a football out of a tree at a tree. He's really good at hitting trees. Like I'm talking from 40, 50 yards away. If you pick out a tree, he can hit it. I mean, we throw the goalpost. That's about as close as we ever got to the tree. Who's who wins

at that? So like we do it like between all our quarterbacks, like after practice, like we'll just do a competition. So it rotates to wins. Our quarterback coach, coach Irving gets in on it too. And like he's like sneaky good at it sometimes too. Shit. I think I could throw 100 times. I wouldn't hit it once. All right. Well, Trace, good luck. Rest of the season. We'll see you in the playoffs. Sorry about the knee. Sorry. We had to break that news to you, but we appreciate your warrior, dude. Like we last night, we were texting with each other, like there's no way he's going to come on after he got hurt, but nope. Just play through. That's football guy. Philip Rivers played in an AFC championship game on a torn ACL. You came on

part of my take after straining your knee. So you tell me. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right, Trace. Thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. I appreciate you guys having me on. All right. Thanks, man. Good luck. Thanks, man. And if you ever want to play Call of Duty with Billy, he wants to play with you. Me and Billy can get in there. Okay. All right. We'll hook it up. He's got a lot of time on his hands. Is he good? Are you good, Billy? He's no, he's not. I got a 0.75 KD now. What is yours? What's yours? You probably have other things going on. Yeah. All right, man. We'll see you. Thanks so much. See you, man. Have a good one.

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now here's Marty. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on Marty Summa. Is that how you pronounce your last name? Summa. Okay, so Marty was kind enough. He hosts a co-host, a podcast exit 52 with someone most of the people here probably know Barstool Banks, a Ravens podcast and Maryland podcast. On Monday, we were talking about team accounts that have to tweet out terrible final scores and just get berated and dragged on the internet. Marty hit us up. He ran the Maryland football account for a few years and we thought it would be perfect to have you on. So thank you for joining us. Of course. Let's just go right into it. So you actually sent us some of your greatest hits. I'll say it out loud. So final Ohio State 62, Maryland 14,

final Penn State 66, Maryland 3, final Ohio State 73, Maryland 14, final Michigan 59, Maryland 3. So when you're running the account and you see it, you know, do you know it before the game? You know, like, all right, this is one of those games that this is going to absolutely suck. Yeah. I mean, going into every game, you have that hope that maybe this is going to be that lightning in a bottle game. I mean, we had one against Ohio State where we went double overtime. And that was one that was really unexpected. But you usually know going into it. And then you'll really know within the first two possessions how and my laptop usually closes around the first quarter. Yeah. So on the final tweets, when you have to put those out, do you

have to do those like because of a contract with a sponsor of the football team? Or is it just like to update anyone who might not be watching the game? Hey, we lost by 60. Yeah, I mean, us in the sports social media world like to say there's unwritten rules. And you'd like to think that shamefully or not, you got to put a final up. I mean, we go pretty much dead silent or white noise for three quarters. You got to put something up. So when you do have to post something like Sunday night or Monday morning, you're not completely ignoring what just happened for four hours on Saturday. So when you go final, do you I've noticed that teams used to be like fought hard or the guys fought hard. Now it's just straight final. When was that transition made?

And did you have that? Like, did you used to when you first started at the job, try to add a little bit of like, hey, buck up guys, it's not so bad. And then you finally were like, this sucks. I'm just going to throw out final. Yeah, I think you see across the board now that there's like a universal just final period. And then the score. We've played with sometimes, like you mentioned, if there's a sponsor attached to it, I mean, we've talked to sponsors before where do you even want to be associated with it? So we'll usually put in in either contract or just let them know that this is typically for wins. It's a lot easier with basketball when you have more more games, but football you could be looking at two posts a year. Yes. Yeah, I think it's

something it's something said where I mean, you guys probably know more than anyone that the mentions can be brutal. Yeah. So where you're used to try and get cute and write, hey, we'll get we'll get back out there and fight next Saturday. You get blown up pretty hard. So just just keep it short and sweet. Yeah, it should be like, you should have a sponsor that is only attached in case of a blowout. Yeah, like a sponsor that's down to ride with you. It's actually more valuable for interactions. Right, you get more reply. So like if it's dude wipes, like we got we got our shit got wiped. Yeah, yeah. This was a mess. This was a disaster. Bring the dude wipes. Right. Yeah, I mean, an alcohol sponsor for Bentley's. I know SVP would back that one. Yeah. Yeah. So how much

of your job running the social media at Maryland was specifically designed to try to get a retweet from Scott van Pelt? Pretty much 90%. I would believe that. Now here's so the finals have kind of people have caught on. We've talked about it a bunch. Now I think the cool ones are the really sad celebration of a play in the middle of a blowout. So like the Michigan game 59 three Maryland kicked a field goal to make it 45 three. Did you guys tweet out like field goal is good? No, we I look back at Arizona's because I wanted to just see how they kind of, especially seeing the score on the bottom line, you just want to see how they're handling it and you feel for those guys. And I did see that they posted the highlight of the touchdown

when they were down like 35 to seven or something like that. Yes. Yes. Especially if it's a rivalry like that. It's God, you're almost trolling yourself at that point. Um, I think as a field goal, I would say probably not. But if you did have like a touchdown where either was somewhat of a decent player or worth worth a highlight, maybe, but not a field goal. So what about that that card that came up at the end of the blow when it's 77 they put it up as the final and then there was a picture of one of their players on it who was just attached to that final score forever. Have you ever had a conversation with anybody who's like, Hey, maybe let's not include pictures of our players like one individual or it's like,

don't include a picture of the coach on there because then that looks really bad. I think if you go through Maryland's social, you'll, I mean, we had, as you guys know, a couple of coaches in a short time span. So we typically don't get the best reactions no matter what to coaches. So we look to avoid coaches no matter what, but I'm looking back on these trying to think my thought process, but you can see in, in the Ohio State, I know this is, this is bad radio, but in the Ohio State final, it's kind of like a defensive play where you can't really see numbers or anyone's faces. Scott, I feel bad on the Penn State one. I really blew a DJ more. I kind of blew him up there. The Michigan one is your greatest one because there's no graphic.

And it just says final period, number two, Michigan 59 comma Maryland three period. That was that. That might have been like in the elevator out of the press box, just kind of throwing that out on the cell phone. Yeah. So I've definitely noticed the final period period is the piece of punctuation you have to use. Like if it's a blowout, you can't do a comma, you certainly can't do a semi colon because then that opens you up for more final conveys, final period conveys like the right amount of sobriety and conveys like we're not going to discuss this anymore. Yeah. To all of you replying to this, we have no further comment. Yeah. So I guess my last question is like, did you ever get angry and want to reply to people?

Because most of these tweets you can see underneath it, people are just replying like, why would you tweet this? Why are you tweeting this? We suck. Why would you? Did you ever be like, oh man, I really want to just be like, yo, it's my fucking job. What do you want me to do? We suck right now. Yeah. I mean, collegiate sports, you, you kind of envy the, the pro teams where, I mean, like the Hawks or those teams that are known for their kind of tongue in chief social where they've kind of put just like white noise or able to respond to people. But the tough part about working for a college team is, is you represent a university. So kind of going back at people. That's what they want you to do. So

we have had fun with people, especially those where we can give a playful response. But there, there are times when, when you keep seeing that mentioned number pop up and you just want to just send like a group reply all, but you just got to, you got to hold it together. I mean, our first really bad one was our first year in the big 10. I think we were five and two going into camp Randall and we just got, I was at that game. Yes. And I, I looked back on, on the social for that day and I don't think we got past kickoff beat Wisconsin. I think we kind of just like shut her down right after that. And it's even, it's even worse there because you get those mentions throughout the entire game. Like we suck. Why are we still playing? Let's pack it in.

Let's go home. And then you post the final and it's like dropping a tank of gas right in the, the bonfire because it's just like, let's, let's do this again. Let's run it back. But yeah, it's tough not to say anything. What about the UMBC guy that was tweeting during the, the upset of UVA? Was that an occasion where you were rooting for him and like, go man, go, or were you secretly jealous that he was able to like spread his wings? I'm jealous. I'm not even, I'm not going to sugarcoat that. I mean, that's one of those where when you're not expected to win ever and you get that opportunity, that dude has rode that train for a couple of years. So good for him. But yeah, definitely jealous of, he pretty much got to, if

he put just like a poop emoji up or anything that, that guy would have gotten like 12,000 retweets. So it's one of those where, I mean, get creative, but you can't do any wrong in those situations. Yeah. That's like being like, everyone just laughing at your jokes and you're the funniest guy for a minute for like one of those nights where you're just on fire and everything is, is working. He's probably, if you look at the long-term ramifications of that win over UVA, he probably benefited the most out of anybody in the entire world. Yes. To that one win. Yes. All right. Yeah. It's also crazy just because anytime UVA loses to anyone else, like that guy gets to like jump back in the spot. I know. He's just, he's always relevant. All right. So last, last

question. Give us one, one of the positive moments. Did you do basketball too? Yeah, I did basketball. Basketball is pretty, I mean, for the most part, basketball is pretty, I mean, we beat Duke our last year in the ACC. That was one of those where we had our first flash mob that game. We couldn't do any wrong. We stormed the court. Like, I think I had content for like the next two weeks. It didn't really matter what we did from that point on. Like, SGP was there. We lit it up. Like, that was one of the biggest highlights. And then I think from a football perspective, beating West Virginia, 38-nothing at, I think, M&T. Yeah, it was M&T. Anything that we did after that too was gold. So it's not all bad, but we do feel for social

media guys that have to post these terrible final scores. I know. I just want everyone, I want to take a PSA real quick to just think about us when you're replying to… No, keep roasting. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. No, no, no. Keep roasting. But understand that it's a real person. But then acknowledge that and move on and roast the shit out of it. Just think of us for one second while you're hitting 10. And also, don't stop calling them interns. I'm pretty sure that like everybody that runs an account for any college is probably a professional, right? Yeah, like, we have benefits and stuff. Yeah, this is someone who's like, wow, what kind of benefits are we talking about? Are you guys tired? But my last, last, last question

is, is there like a dream job? Is it like you look at University of Texas or USC as being like a college football dream job? What is like the gig to have working for university and social media? I mean, it's, it's things you don't think about are like some of those top tier schools, like the Michigan's, the Alabama's, like they, they're pretty tight with tradition and donors eyes and what kind of backers think about the program. So you actually might, might think that those are fun, but they're a little tied more than the, the like max schools that can kind of just like let it fly. Yeah. I think the dream jobs are just anyone's where, where your administration, which I'm thankful that mine did for eight years had

trust in me and kind of let me just go and kind of take credit where credit was due, but also trusted me to, to get some laughs, but also act accordingly for a university. You had, you had to be terrified that you would tweet something from your personal account by accident, right? Oh, I did. Every day. Oh, you did? Yeah. I tweeted that I was watching mean girls one day from the Maryland main account. And that was screenshoted. And I think there was a hashtag that started Terps mean girls that just kind of went on for like two weeks. I thought I was going to get fired. That was my first year. I love it. All right. Well, man, thank you so much. Everyone listen to exit 52 podcast. Congrats on the Ravens being back. And thank you for joining

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awesome. So sometimes during the show, we get a little caught up. We get wound up in whatever the flavor of the day is. And I think Martin Scurley was like going viral. That was also very early in the show. Yeah, it was like we were, if you remember the guests, we were, we were trying to like, all right, what's the next thing? What's the next thing? Like we didn't have bookers. We booked everything ourselves. And I think yeah, he was trolling Wu Tang, right? He bought the Wu Tang album. That's when he bought the Wu Tang album. And he was like making all these like weird videos from his bad guy apartment. Yeah. And so we just decided, yeah, we'll have him on the show. I didn't personally like him. I think that came out a little bit. Yeah, I don't think he was a good guy.

I got, I did get sassy with him, Hank. And then we started a band and squashed the beef. Yeah. So the band is, I think it's on steroids. Billy, I mean that was before Billy, but it was like all about steroids. I follow him on Instagram and he just has someone posting for him because he's in jail. I think still in jail. Is he out of jail? Yeah, no, I think he just got more jail. Okay, he got more jail because he probably deserved it. Yeah. But someone just keeps posting pictures of his cats from his account being like, it's just, his account is active. And it's just all his cat pictures. Twitter accounts suspended. Twitter accounts suspended. I still, I mean that face, I think I wrote the blog when it first happened, like the most punchable face of all time when he's,

when he came, when he came up first on the scene and had his smug ass face. And he, yeah, he was, he was something else. Paul Gunther definitely would have hit him in the face. Yes. I think we should record one episode a part of my take and try to get him to buy it and not release it to anyone else. Yes. He definitely has zero dollars now. Negative money. So this is from a youth, a young, a young college student from Toronto. Actually, I guess there's a location on these. Do they have colleges in Toronto? Unis. Unis. Unis. Got it. How, McGill? How do you make the most of giving up? I think that's an, actually, I don't know what I think. Is that an American? It's an American college in Canada. The American school? Yeah. I just made that up. Okay. How to

make the most of guys, how do they make the most of giving up your freedom at college and coming home to live with your parents for the winter break, including getting your booze and Nick fix without being judged? What's it Nick? Is that nicotine? Yeah. Well, it's quarantine. So I don't, well, actually, Canada, I think has figured it out. You can buy booze in Canada when you're 18, right? Yeah. You can do anything in Canada. Even worse though, you know, like college kids aren't really like, they're, it's probably much worse for a college kid because they're at houses and they're going to house parties and shit. And then it's like, they have to go home. They're going to kill Nana. A lot of college kids, you're, yeah, college kids listen to this right now. You're

probably going to kill Nana. I don't even know. Don't do it. I'm nervous about going, like, I'm going home for Christmas. And I feel like my mom, like, even if I want to go see my friends, I'm going to get shamed. Yeah. Yeah. You will. Yeah. Of course you will. Especially if your parents are like, I'm not going home. That's not fair. I don't, I'm just like, I'm like trying to, at first I was like, that was a nice reverse change. We're like, it's not fair that I'm being shamed. No, for putting my family at risk. If I go home and I go hang out at a friend's house, and then I go back, I might kill Marlon's man. Guys, I think you're missing the question. What? He's not going to see any of his friends. He's wondering how he should consume booze and

nicotine while around his family. What's the best way? I would say, without like being like, oh, you're 18 and two, like, that doesn't matter. Well, no, in Canada, no, in Canada, you can drink legally in Canada. So what are they going to do? Also, I feel like that like break in college, like just embrace it. Who cares? Just don't just sleep all day. Work out. Yeah. You know how you don't get judged? You, you stay up till four in the morning and you sleep till 4pm. You show up for dinner every night and then the rest of your family goes to sleep and you rip cod with the boys. Yep. And no one's going to judge you because you won't, they literally won't be awake. And I think what you can do is, like, especially with your dad, dads love their sons going off to college for

the first time because they come back that first break. And dad's like, there's my party kid right there. Your dad will probably drink with you on the first night, maybe be a little hungover going to night number two, and then you just leave him in the dust. So you invite him to partake with you for at least the first night, then maybe he'll get too hungover to continue and you're free. You've already established that you drink in his house now. So then you're free to imbibe as the week progresses. Yeah. Hey, Big Cat, PFT, Honk and Billy Squires, what is everyone's favorite Christmas cookie? I just like the sugar cookies with the, the, like the straight up, like the thin sugar cookies with the sprinkles on it that you can

eat like a thousand of them and like just pop them. I like those, but those are always endangered being like a little too dry. It's a very fine line. You need them within, you need them within like 12 hours of cooking. Yeah, I like an Oreo. I used to leave Oreos out for Santa all the time. Never got any complaints. Probably the best milk cookie as well. And water. And water. Yeah, you need water to chase the milk after the cookie. Well, you got to wash your Oreos. Yeah, you got to wash your Oreos. You got to hose the system. Greatest water cookie out there. Yeah, I think you can't go wrong with the cookie around the holidays. That's what I always say. This is definitely the give up time of just like, there's just, I do love like this stretch where anywhere you look, there's just

candy and cookies everywhere. Like yesterday, they were just in the kitchen at the office. There was like probably 200 cookies just sitting out and popcorn. There's always popcorn around. Yeah, it's popcorn. Oh dude, we need that big tub. Someone sent us a big tub. Yeah. Wait, which one are you? I like to mix them all. You make some, you take the thing out, you let them mingle. No, I don't do that, but I like to, I like to go, you know, a little, I actually don't really love the butter as much. It's usually the cheese and the caramel and then just a little bit of butter. See, I go cheese and I go butter. Stay away from the caramel. Oh, you got to, you got to go get a little sweet. That's, I mean, I think I've said

this before, but my life, like the most important job I have in my life is trying to balance that sweet and savory. Try to figure out when you can get off one or the other. Why are you hiding the new Larry from us? Is he winning too many bets and you don't want to give the people the insights? Are you ashamed of the conditions you are keeping him under? I have asked this question frequently to myself in the past like eight seconds as I typed it. So technically, it is an FAQ. Is this written by a goldfish? Also, Merry Christmas, BAM, holiday themed. Now you have to answer it. Pwned. Oh God, that was, the fish is fat. The fish is too fat. So fat. So we can't, it doesn't turn. Disgustingly fat. We don't body shape. It's unable to turn. So it can't,

it's like DK Metcalf. It's the first fish to last two years. So it's like grown. It's probably, I don't know, five or six or seven times bigger than any of the other fish. It's disgusting. The first week we were going to actually, it's like, I see it every now and then. I'm like, yo, Larry, you're kind of gross. We were going to have a track play barcel picks, the eight play barcel picks, but we went to do the net and he's wider than the net. So to like put him in the net and then have him make the picks. It felt like it was like, you kill him every time. Yeah. Yeah. So what do we, what do we do with him? He's thriving. I think we all answer your question. Yeah, we let him live. We let him live. We'll,

we'll tweet a picture of it. Spider takes care of him. Does a great job. And people can't get mad because all we heard for the first six, seven, Larry's however many was, this is cruelty. Your Larry's keep dying so quickly. Well, guess what, fuckers? This Larry has outlived everyone. The thing is, if we started to use him for content, I guarantee he would die within like the first two weeks because he, he actually like, when you go to use the net on him, it's like punching him. It's not a little tiny, cute goldfish. It's a fucking full ass man. Billy. Now you know, you know, Billy wants, I'm just saying, no, I'm just saying the fish is so big that you could pass it off is like a big fish that you caught. It's a keeper. Like if you put it close to the camera.

Yeah. Like you pull Larry out of the water and you can legally keep it and you don't have to put it back. Yeah. That should be your new avatar. Like you should be a fish avatar guy where you're holding the goldfish. I should take Larry and put him close to the camera and make him look huge. Yeah. But we would have to hook him. So let's not do that. Okay. Ask Billy who taught the first teacher. Whoa. Oh, I have a whoa. Life. Moses. The tablets. He learned through life taught the first teacher. Yeah. He learned through right. What's the word? Environmental learning. I think yeah. So in other words, just a lot of people died. Yeah. Figuring stuff out. I have a whoa. I saw on Twitter today. Do you know that Zion is actually the longest tenured pelican?

Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. He technically when he was drafted, all the other guys have been there less time. That's amazing. Yeah. He's the old man. He's the leader of that team now. Isn't that insane? I also saw that he got skinny, which I don't like. Did he? Yeah. He'll put it back on. He always holidays. He can't keep that off as a guy who fluctuates. You're not fooling anyone, Zion. For my family's Yankee swap or some call it white elephant. I call Yankee swap. You can't say white elephant. Okay. I'm stumped this year. There's a $30 limit. What are some of the out of what are some out of the ordinary ideas I can use this year? Scratchies. Cash. Always scratch offs. Cash. Cash in a different country's currency. Fidget spinner. You could get. Oh,

that's a good one. Spinners are back. I would be so pissed off. Part of my place. $30 worth of currency from a different country. Part of my place is actually a good job. Jimmy John's favorite place. Having a family member like an old uncle end up with a part of my flakes box would be a funny gag. This NFC beast T-shirt on sale now. I think out the door that's just under $30. One sleeve of this Buddha bend sweatshirt I'm wearing. Why did you guys choose the smallest Ralph's parking lot for a group meetup in Santa Monica? Love you guys. Great question. I don't know. Yeah. Because we got kicked out. I think we almost got arrested. I think that was body armor. It was body armor. It was our sales team set it up. I don't know why they chose Ralph's. I think

because Ralph's sold body armor, but they didn't tell Ralph's and they didn't tell anyone else. We had like 600 people show up when we were performing a wedding in the van and it was like brother and sister or something. That got weird. The cops came and were like, you guys can't do this. This is illegal. It was super close to the 405. So we needed like a getaway spot. I just love the name Ralph's. I would chop it Ralph's all the time. So head down to Ralph's. Need anything? That's a cool thing to say. Yo, I'm popping over to Ralph's. Do you need me to pick up anything? I was disappointed that Ralph's didn't have those stations set up where you could sample stuff. Ralph's seems like a sample grocery store. Do we even go into Ralph's? Yeah, we went in I think.

No, we didn't. That was a different one. You're thinking of publics. I was thinking of publics. Yeah. No, we didn't even go into Ralph's. No, yeah. Ralph's. So maybe Ralph's done. Although I don't think so. Smash and trash. We're going to say Billy. No, I was just going to ask which was the illegal part like the marriage? No, we were. I mean, in Ralph's defense, it made sense why they were pissed because we just completely consumed their entire parking lot. So no one, we caused a traffic jam in their parking lot. But at what point does it become illegal to just show up in a parking lot? Flash mobs illegal. Yeah. They legalized that when everyone started dancing to Harvey Danger. Was it, I believe that it was, we were doing the wedding

and the whole time I was like, this is the weirdest thing we've ever done by far. And then at the end, they were like, we're actually brother and sister. And the girl was like, he forced me to do this. And we're like, this is creepy. The guy couldn't get a stand in besides his sister. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's when we figured out. So you can kiss the bride and then he was like, yeah, that was a wild time. It was, I felt bad for the girl. Yes. All right. So these are two questions very similar to each other. Dear big cat, PFT, Hank, Liam and Jake. I hope you all have a great holiday season. What's the best gift to get someone that you want to break up with after the holiday season? Oh, that's a great question. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say like

something that will keep him entertained. So you could get back like you're not going to want that PS five. Are you? No, no. You didn't really like because if you break up with him after giving him an Xbox, no guys on chicks, guys on chicks. Oh, what? What's the question? This is FAQs, but you're getting somebody. Yeah. But it could be a guy getting a girl a gift. Okay. Yeah. I was saying, I was getting the girl on Xbox and being like, you love God. And then like two weeks later, like, no, you don't, you don't have it back. If you're a girl, then I think that's even more of a brilliant move. If you're going to break up with a guy, because then he just, he's not going to be talking to you anyways at that point,

he'll just be obsessed with his new video game system. So Xbox for Xbox. Yeah. All right. And this one's a little similar. Best present to get for my girlfriend who earlier this year cheated on me. She doesn't know I know yet, but what should I get for a little revenge? Oh, you should get it. Oh, if he knows the guy, you got to get, you got to get something related to the guy and watch her get like super flush and be like, I know that's a funny, that's a funny find out if they went on a date somewhere and got like a gift card for that place, but you love that place, right? Yeah. Something really passive aggressive like that. Or just blow up the lyrics that Taylor Swift song. I think you did it, but I just can't prove it.

Be like, I know you love Taylor Swift. Yeah. Oh, that in the frame. This is good. I want you to these are the ones I wish we could like videotape. I just want to make cheaters with Joey Greco. Cool again. Or fucking stab dude. That guy was committed to the game. Just like write a really long poem about how you love her so much. And you know that you two are meant for each other. And you'll never do anything to her. Yes. Like the reason why I love you so much is you'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever cheat on just stare at her who runs the meme account on Twitter. The accounts too good. So it's definitely not Billy. I'll hang up and listen. We don't know. We don't know. He's awesome. I do. It's kid named Connor. He's a great job. Yes. Very, very good. We should

hire him as our intern. And then have him fight Jake Paul. Oh, I bet you Connor could meme him his way into that. That'd be electric. Last one. This is not a FAQ, but a whoa. He's so bad. Billy, you should talk to Connor and use. Connor can help you meme your way into the Jake Paul fight. Yeah. Connor's definitely listening right now. Connor, help Billy. Billy needs a little kickstart here and Billy wants it to become a meme. He's been busy. Connor literally has nothing going on clearly. I didn't mean that a bad way. He's really good at what he does. What is his job? Does he have a job? He's really good at what he does. He just kills it with memes. There's many times where I'm like, shit, Connor's fun here

than me. Fuck. Not a FAQ, but a whoa. The fire fest fire festival segment is the new Jimbo's. I'll hang up and listen. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You got us. Yeah. Shit. But fire fest sounds a lot cooler. Yeah. I don't know. I think in like three years and we're still. Well, that's a fire fest. Yeah, like that in itself. It's a self fulfilling fire fest that we're still talking about fire fest. I think that I think they should do the fire fest. I would go if they if somebody announced like this summer, the fire fest is actually happening to celebrate the end of quarantine. I would fucking go initial release January 18th, 2019. So we're approaching two years. They needs to be this summer. It needs to be like an official worldwide end of COVID party

fire fest 2.0. This time it's actually happening. We promise. I also sorry about the last time. Yeah. I'm going to push back on that one. I think that if you just if you just keep saying fire fest, we'll be at the we'll be at the beginning of when it's cool again. You know what I mean? We're waiting it out. We're squatting on fire fest. Eventually people will be start saying fire fest again and they'll be like, oh, wait a rip off part of my day. Like, yeah, like exactly. Or is that it Hank? That looks like it's it. Okay. Numbers. Numbers. Eight. Numbers. Riding with eight, baby. I kind of want to go 100. Now that I know it's in there. Yeah, I think you're going to go double. I'm going to go 100 back to that. You're a fucking

99. All right. Is there a limit? Is there a zero in there? Oh, no, I don't not think there's zero. Minus 60. Billy, why did you do that? Can you please bring back 69? What's your number, Billy? Mine's three, eight. You're cursed. I want to get your curse. I don't want to get it at your home. I don't want to get it. I'm trying to avoid three. I don't want to win this one because people will be like, that's rigged. Eight, eight, eight. What do we got? 62? It sounds like a, I feel like 62 is like every other day. That's an awful number. 62. What is, yeah, what a nothing number. Awful number. Who's 62? A repeat November 8th was the last time. Yeah, nothing happened. Grizzly bears possess a biting force of over 1200 psi, which is enough to crush

a bowling ball or an iron skillet. Love you guys. you