Pardon My Take - Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott, Week 14 Picks And Preview + Recap Of The 24 Hour Stream

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

The Patriots are back and the Steelers are out of the playoffs. Jon Rahm to the LIV and Soto is a Yankee. We talk a little NBA Tournament (00:00:00-00:14:21). Week 14 Picks and Preview and the wild Sean McDermott revelation about 9/11 is discussed (00:14:21-01:32:27). Rob Gronkowski joins the show to talk about the LA Bowl, does he miss football, favorite memories, having kids and more (01:32:27-02:06:41). Bart Scott joins the show to talk hot takes, what teams impress him this year, the Butt Fumble, beefs and more (02:06:41-02:37:33). We finish with a recap of the 24 hour stream from Max and Hank (02:37:33-02:54:52).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Okay. Let's go It's part of my take. There's an about harshness for us. Welcome apart in my take today is Friday, December 8th and the Patriots are back. Fully. Well, I'd say I would actually say it's the Steelers have done. So the Steelers have lost back to back games at home to the Cardinals and the Patriots. Which I just want to say, my guy Mitch, I know there's probably some stealer fans that are upset at him right now, but in his afterlife, he helps out the Bears because the Bears now have a stranglehold on that first pick.

He lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots, like you said, in back, back weeks. They're now second and third in the picks with three wins and the Panthers have won, but Hank, the Patriots won a game. Bailey Zappy looked good. You looked in the first half. He looked real good. Really good. Hank, you don't want to win that game. Yeah, that was a bad game to win because it's like do the Panthers have two more wins in them? I don't think so. And not Hank is also just exhausted and delirious, which I don't blame for at all. not. Hank is also just exhausted and delirious, which I don't blame for at all. You deserve to be every bit of exhausted and delirious, but that game probably didn't do a whole lot to wake you up. It was fun in the first half scoring touchdowns. Like, oh, this is a fun

team to root for, but I obviously am a big fan of Mitch. I wanted the Patriots to lose. So I was all in on like a second half stealers come back. Matt Steelers lose. Patriots look good, but we still lose. And so that was worst case scenario. There was one moment at the end of the second half. The Steelers were driving the ball. I think it was fourth and three, right? Fourth and three?

Yeah, it was fourth and three. Fourth and three. And Mike Tomlin did the thing I hate the ball. No, that was actually a fourth and like one. Oh, yeah, that was fourth and one at that time. It was fourth and one. Tomlin did the thing. I hate the most from a coach. He took a think it over time out. I hate to think it over time out. You should you should have already thought it over. That's what the weeks for. That's what preparing

sweat. And then you take a time out, talk it over, see what you like and then send your guys out there, run a play. They got a first down, which was great. And then they had the fourth and three. Yeah. And on that fourth and three, they thought that they had an encroachment against the defense. Which they should have, which they should have. Instead, they called a fall start on the center for moving his head up slowly. And it was such, oh, like the encroachment was so obvious. We said in the moment, we're like, that is the call down to the field to tank. Yes. Like the Patriots realized, oh, we played well in the first where like that is the call down to the field to tank. Yes. Like the Patriots realized, oh, we played well in the first half.

That was fun. We got to lose this game. And for a second, Tom Linn and Belicek had a standoff. And you remember when Belicek and Verabel had that standoff where they deleted time in that playoff game? Yeah. It felt like that except the saddest version of that where each coach was saying, no, no, we committed the penalty.

Yeah. No, no, we committed it. But then they end up getting the ball back. Mitch didn't really do much with it. I don't understand the, the go route on fourth and two at the end of the game. I mean, Will was sitting with us and he said that, you know, that's just kind of a, if you see one on one on the outside, press coverage. Yeah, I guess. Oh for it. But yeah, the Steelers are bad and I'm listen, I don't think the Steelers are a playoff team. They shouldn't be up. They are now officially outside of the playoffs, which is good for football. Like we love we love Pittsburgh. We love the people of Pittsburgh. We love Steelers

fans, but I think Steelers fans agree. Like this isn't a playoff team and it's probably for the better if they get a better draft pick and maybe reassess everything. I was going to say it's good for the Steelers that they lost this game. Right. If you end up having a winning record getting into the playoffs and then you go one and done with a team that never really had a chance to do anything in the playoffs. Correct. Why? Because you get one more week of being like we're still I guess if you're a loser franchise like for me.

Oh, I would love one more week. I would love to get my ass kicked in the wild card round. Yeah. That's like my dream. But Steelers fans, that's that's beneath you to think that way. They need a reset. Jersey Jerry was talking that they should trade TJ what? Try to get a lot for them. Yeah. Serves to be it was he was talking like it was like a dog that like a city dog that needs like, you know, like when you get a cattle dog, you're like, yeah, this dog should be out in the wilderness. It's out in a farm.

It's not an apartment dog. It's just gonna sit around and nods, pause raw. Right, let's go drive it to a farm. It gets into a farm. Yeah, give this dog some space. But yeah, Hank, congrats, you won a game. Thanks. I'm very happy you won.

That makes one of us. Yeah. But Bailey, look at the first pick. At first pick. Yeah. I'm very happy you won. That makes one of us. Yeah. But Bailey look in the first. At first pick. Yeah. Oh boy. I swear, Al Michaels was just trying his hardest to get Mitch to throw a pick six. Yeah. He was, you know, he's never done this. Yeah. Never done a pick six, which it surprises me every time I hear it. Wait, he hasn't. Mitch Trebuski is never throwing a pick six big cat. Oh, fun fact. Also, I've definitely envisioned him throwing a lot of them, but no, he has not also Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. Mm-hmm.

And Kelsey's her brothers. I have to check that because PFT. I'm no offense, but I don't know if you're trying to get us, but the the Yokeist stat was just wrong. No, he he leads are you talking about like per game? Yeah, I'm about no total. I said I said total rebound. Oh, I thought you had any legal average. Yeah, I know, I'm not a few, tweeting me. No, and I told someone that sat and they're like, no, and I was like, wait, what? No, it's total.

Total. Yeah, total. Yeah, that's a weird way, no one cares about total. No one cares, man. I did, that's a weird way to, I care about, that's just a, that's just a, who's played the most game. I'm not into this load management stuff.

Best, best ability is availability. Oh, I got it. Okay, that's funny. If you would ask me like life on the line has Mitch thrown a pick six, but yeah, for sure. But he just, has not, never has, never has. But yeah, that was, that was a better game than we expected.

Yeah, it was, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, he's better game than we expected. I was fully prepared. I mean, overhitting the first half. I thought it was, ever was shitting on, it was fun. Yeah, it's it's it's he's better game than we expected. I was fully overhitting the first half. I thought it was shitting on the game beforehand. Yeah, a game that's so bad that it's good, but instead it was just so good that it was not bad. Yeah. Well, we can get to it with the 24 hour stream, but there was a portion where we were taking uh, callers that that we're part of the Golden Mug giveaway. And everyone was asking about

the game and I was like, Patriots over, over Patriots over and then I just like the stream ended I didn't have time didn't put it in and it obviously but you made some people some money everyone. Yeah, everyone else that feels good That's almost better than winning sure It's definitely no towards way worse. It's so much. Like I was out of the game over the Patriot score and they just marched down score to get us like, oh, this is way over and Patriot's gonna win. Yeah, great. Also congrats to LeBron James. Yeah. You're in the finals of the in season tournament.

I'll just get the floor to skip Bayless on this take. He said, I give LeBron this. He did keep his team together long enough to outlast everyone and win a bubble championship. That deserved a cubic zirconia ring. And now he is won a cute little gimmicky November December tournament in its first year. Impressive. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet.

He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet.

He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. He hasn't won yet. for Adam Silver, because it's games that no one would care about and now we care about him, right? Like, I watched him, I was like, this is fun. What do you think LeBron's gonna do with the money? He hasn't won yet. No, but I'm saying, if he won, if he gets what, half mill, yeah, here's the thing. They got a hundred cage.

Two, three, four. Now, I think they get more than half a mill. I think they get more than a hundred k, yeah. They get 500 k. Yeah, it's enough to make you care about it. The Pacers have seven guys that are making less than $6 million. Yeah, so it means... This money means something for them. But it also means a lot to LeBron if he can win this and then make a big show about

where he gives the money. Yeah, he'll definitely give the money away. I did see one mean tweet that was like LeBron's trying to do the one thing that MJ never did. And we've lost Vegas with $500,000. Kind of funny. I thought you were going to say, yeah, MJ never won a mid-season tournament. Karim never won one.

But yeah, that's been fun. And then Wonsoto Yankees are going to just try to, I like this. The Yankees just keep trying to be like, we're going to hit the most home runs. Well, Wonsoto in that short porch environment, is gonna hit some fucking ding dong. Yeah, he is. But pitching still matters. Yeah.

Let's just out hit everybody. Yeah, and then John Rom to the live, which, okay. Who do you think is gonna get more money? John Rom to the live or Shohei Otani? Who's apparently commanding like 600 million dollars. I know, I know, which is insane. But John Rom, 450, I still don't understand. Like they merged, but they're not.

Yeah, I guess you can still jump leagues. Okay, then smart for John romp, cause you get to play in everything, right? You get to play fewer rounds of golf, make like $450 million guarantee. Make like 10 times or more, more money. And then yeah, just show up when he wants and he gets to wear shorts There's another swamp ass shorts is great that might have been the big sticking point shorts

Like yeah, can you explain the shorts thing to me one more time? Why is it? Why do they have to wear pants and golf? Yeah, I don't know I don't care. It's game. But yeah, John Rom just sitting in the negotiating table like listen to 450 I don't care 450 million, but just tell me, walk me through the shorts thing. Yeah, just explain it, like I'm five years old. I can wear shorts. There's gonna be another golf league. Maybe Katar can get it on this. Have the Amiri gets money out there.

Just as much money as live, you get to wear shorts also, and you get a cart, and you can wear tank tops. And yeah, just gun show. I like that. Yeah, would be sick. I was thought of something guys. Oh, no, no, takes thought of the week. Yeah, so earlier this week, didn't LeBron say, didn't he tell us teammates he's going to miss a game if it's on the same, for his son, as Bronnie, Bronnie, I think is playing on Saturday against

Long Beach State. The NBA and season tournament championship in Las Vegas is Saturday. Oh, this is a dilemma. Well, he can probably fly. I think he'll probably get the private Saturday. I don't know what the timing will get the game time change. Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. What? It says it's Sunday, long-weed state. I don't wanna know. But it's an interesting thought experiment. I just googled it, it says Sunday.

Let's just, let's just, I see Saturday. Let's just, a beret LeBron for, Sunday's Saturday. That would have missed that game. Yeah, that's why it's not a champ. Is it Sunday or Saturday? I'm looking, I see one tweet this Saturday, but it's not oh, I'm looking at Google not tweets

Sunday says Sunday Sunday Sunday So no problem for Bronnie. He probably got it moved He probably yeah I Had it but I didn't no you didn't know you did not have it I did exactly what they told me not to do in journals in school. Read a tweet.

Be first. Yeah. Read a tweet instead of be right. Don't ever read a tweet. Yeah, that's always a bad thing. That's all I made. You should actually never write a tweet either. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like across the board for everyone. Yeah. Alright, so yeah, I'm rooting for the Pacers obviously. I mean, 500,000. What do I say? Seven guys? under six?

Live like a king in Indiana. Also winning $500,000 in Vegas got a rule. Yeah, I would not leave. I'd leave with less money in what I want. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I put it on red. Charles Barkley definitely would. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you just be like, well, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, that's not real. I'm rich. Well, except the not because I mean what you just be like what we would have it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's not real. I'm rich Well except I'm not because I make you know with the player who makes like two million dollars a buddy Healed should have to do it. Yeah Yeah, that's fair buddy. Healed should have to do it. I think they also I think Bruce Brown got paid a lot Bruce Brown. Yeah, it makes 22 million a year So yeah, the three top guy buddy healed milestone and Bruce Brown all make over $19 million a year they all should have to put it all on red for the team and if yeah if it hits you split it up Yeah, yeah, that's that's or maybe they put it on double zero and

Then they split that be huge. That would be awesome Okay, let's get to our Kig to ourselves again if you're not a YouTube watcher This is one you want to watch on YouTube because we have Max and Hank in the lower third keeping up a balloon for our picks and preview. And then we have Grunk and Bart Scott. Okay, picks and preview time. It's brought to you by our friends at Uber Eats. Get delivered with Uber Eats. It's football season. You can now get almost, almost anything you need for game day delivered with Uber Eats. What do you mean by almost? Well, you can get a win in game seven for Max's

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it dawned on me that we've kind of, we recreated the Stanford Prison Experiment. Yeah. And we're the wardens and they're the prisoners. I don't think that we've done anything over the line. I think that most of the activities that we've given them have been engaging, entertaining, stimulating even.

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while we do the weekend preview. Ready, set, go. Okay, they're going. There was a part of me that thought Hank was going to just hit it into the ground. All right, Shane, you want to pull us down and we'll get back into it. They don't have to just alternate the entire time. This is so funny. It's actually kind of soothing watching this. I just turned the logo just alternate the entire time. This is so funny. It's actually kind of soothing watching this.

I just turn the logo on on the TV quit. Yes. The balloon bouncing around is kind of like we're watching the DVD logo thing. Yeah. Screen saver. It's kind of nice. Also shout out to Max, built us a dresser for the studio that we're going to be adding. Did a really good job with that. Looks awesome.

Memes was low key integral to the entire stream. Memes stayed up all night last night, interacting with them. The chat, Memes is a beast. Okay, PFT, week 14. I know you hate when I do this, but I have to do it. We're not gonna do it. 14 is so late. You know what it is? It's not that late.

It's been because you're forgetting about Super Wild card weekend. That's bonus football. Then we get more playoff football, then we get the pro bowl, then we get the Super Bowl. So that's not what I was gonna say. What I was gonna say was when college football ends,

it always is like, wait, what? What? How is college football over right now? Yeah, college football seasons way too short. And then we now? Yeah, college football season's way too short. And then we have bowl games, but it yet does like week 14. It just dawned on me that, listen, our job gets a little easier because I think we showed it on last Sunday's show. There's some games that we don't really have to talk about

that don't mean shit. Yeah. But we will preview every game. For Sunday, we have two crown jewels. Two crown jewels. If you have two crown jewels, you don't have one. So we have to list one crown jewel. Okay.

If you're gonna be a crown jewel, then it can be like, I don't know, a scepter. The royal scepter. Okay, so the crown jewels come later. Let's start with the noon one o'clock slate, and we have some great games in that slate as well. Rams at Ravens, is where we're gonna start. I saw that there was a report that Lamar Jackson might be dealing with his annual diarrhea because he wasn't at practice today. It's about that time of year, yeah. It does feel like this is right

around the time of year where he's just gonna randomly miss practice for an entire week and be like, what's going on with Lamar Jackson? What's going on with his ass? That's what we all need to know. I like the Rams actually to cover on this. I think the Rams are sneaky. There's a ramp. That enough talent. There's a Rams for real game.

Yeah. Are you for real Rams? Well, I think even if they lose by three, they could be considered semi-for real. I would say if they cover. Yeah, because it's seven and a half. So if they lose by seven, I'm going to say the Rams possibly still for real at that point. We forget the Colts beat Baltimore

and Baltimore this year. Yeah, it can be done. Kyron Williams has been awesome for the Rams. He is like the Todd Gurley replacement. You know, that's that McVey's offense. You need the running game. And I think that that you've seen moments where the Rams have not looked great. He was out for a whole month. Now they're back playing some good ball. I was thinking about this game because I agree with you that I lean Rams, even though that's a buy week for the Ravens, they're off a buy week and they also have like the one seed very much in focus with everyone else losing.

But I was thinking about it because Mark Andrews is out. And I went back and I looked at the stats. One, I don't give Mark Andrews credit enough. I always think of Mark Andrews as an injury guy. He's not. Yeah, he's not an injury guy. He's actually not been missed that many games. Yeah.

But Mark Andrews, when he has been out, he's been out four times when Lamar Jackson's also playing. So because there was obviously Lamar Jackson missed the end of last year. Lamar Jackson's also playing, so because there was obviously Lamar Jackson missed the end of last year. Lamar Jackson stats in the last four times that they have played without Mark Andrews. You ready for these? 12 for 17, 170 yards, 12 for 22, 130 yards,

17 for 23, 169 yards, 18 for 32, 170 yards. Yeah. Not Eclipse 200 yards. The only thing that you could say and counter to this is they have way better wide receivers, 18 for 3217 yards. Yeah. Not eclipse 200 yards. The only thing that you could say and it counter to this is they have way better wide receivers this year than they have had in the past when it was just Mark Andrews, but that makes me nervous about the Ravens. Mark Andrews is a big part of their off.

No, the Ravens system has been to just not ever have a wide receiver. Yeah. And now they have them. They went out and they got several wide receivers. So that's going to make it different. But that's what I was saying earlier this year was I feel like Mark Andrews is to the Ravens What Travis Kelsey is the chiefs? Yeah, he's not as good as Travis Kelsey He's still very very good one baby Kelsey one of the best in the league. Is he older than Kelsey though?

No, I feel like Mark Andrews sneaky young guy. Is he? I feel like he's been on the Ravens for a while what you guess an age I'll tell you all right Well, I'm gonna go to get myself cuz Ravens for a while. What, you guess an age, I'll tell you. All right, well, now I'm going to get to myself because I know what Travis Kelsey is. What do you think? I'm just gonna guess 31. He's 28. 28, really?

Yeah. He just turned 28. Same age as Randall Cobb. Randall Cobb is 27. Yeah, 26, I thought. Yeah. No, Mark Andrews, I think he means as much the Ravens as Travis Kelsey means the Chiefs.

Like the offense doesn't really work without him But also you have to take into account this year. They've got safe flowers. Who's nasty Odell Beckham who looks way better? Yeah, Ravens than I thought he would Ravens fans can can do the and I this is a logic jump that all fan bases do But I would do it if our Ravens fan I would say well, maybe this is actually good if Mark Andrews can come back for the playoffs Now Lamar has to get on even better page with his wide receivers Ravens fan, I would say, well, maybe this is actually good if Mark Andrews can come back for the playoffs. Now Lamar has to get on even better page with his wide receivers. All systems go come January. This actually helped the Ravens.

He's got to learn how to play with everybody because it's not used to having those. It's something that we all have to figure out a way to do when you have a when you have a key player go down, you have to figure out a way like actually, you don't know this team. This was actually a blessing in disguise. This is a get, they get Mark Andrews back. And then it's like free agent, you know what, then it's hyper drive. Yeah.

So I, I, I agree with you, I kind of lean the, the rams here. It might be a backdoor cover, but I think if they get in seven, if they, if they lose by a touchdown, I'm gonna take the ramp seriously. Yeah, yeah. All right, nerd nugget for this game. Hello guys.. Hey, Jake. How's it going? Hello guy?

Under John Harboh, the Ravens are 12 and three in games immediately following the buy, which is the fewest losses in the league over the last 15 years. And those games right after the buy coach Harboh took over in 2008. They're allowing just 16 points per game first in the league. Okay, that makes me nervous. Yeah, a little bit nervous. Yeah, a little bit nervous about that one. I need to know what Ronnie from where he's Ronnie from, Ronnie from Dundalk. Yeah, Stavvy. I want to know what his take on this game is. Yeah, maybe we should have him on the show. I think we're going to have him on the show soon sometimes. All right, next game, Colts at Bengals.

The Bengals can the Bengals make the playoffs? There was, can we do the Bengals? Jake Browning equals Nick Foles. You know some Bengals fans might be thinking it. Now the Eagles, the year that Nick Foles won the Super Bowl, I think their record was way better when Carson Wentz got hurt. I think they were the one seed. He was probably going to be the MVP when he heard. I think there was something like 12 and 4 somewhere around that. But in the games since Joe burrow has gotten super healthy, he's played like the MVP. True. I don't know. A thigh-word Bengals fan, this is what I'd be telling myself. I think it's it's heresy to compare Carson Wentz to Joe burrow. Yeah. And also maybe Jake

Browningtonic Foles. There's double hair Harris. I know 13 and three that year 13 and three So a little different because the Bengals still have to make the playoffs But if you're a Bengals fan that Monday night win Got you at least another week of rooting for a team that is in contention Which is beautiful. That's nice like if you win this game now you actually are thinking maybe you will go to the play It's not just that you're in the hunt. You're in the thick of it. You're in the big time. You're in the deep shit if you're the Colts.

Colts are also five and one on the road this year. So don't forget that. Gardiner Mint, you look pretty good last week. There are also their special teams is awesome last week. They're special teams. They got a coach fired. They're a special teams essentially scored 10 points for them.

Yeah, the coach, it was so good on your punt blocking unit that you got another special teams's coach fired and a guy injured That's a yeah really injured I think the folks are gonna have 10 wins this year. You think you think Sean Payton ever did a bounty on a punter? I'm sure bounty on everybody. Yeah, who is there punter? Was that more said back then? Yeah, too early for him. I bet you Greg Williams. Yeah, it was like punter. Just anyone. Yeah water boys I want a gang I want as many carts on the field. Oh, speaking of that guy,

chain gang guy, good news for him. Yeah. Not as bad as it looked. How it looks horrific. It looked awful. Oh, so he, he will walk at some point again in his life. It was a dislocated knee, but it was a, oh, that sounds bad.

It was a cleanly dislocated knee. So apparently he doesn't need surgery or anything. He just popped it back in. His leg bent 90 degrees to the side. And then they popped it back in. I think he's going to be okay. Do they put you under for the pop back in? They should.

I would request a coma. Like, I know it's not surgery, but please, sir. That's again, when you watch players dislocate their fingers, which happens every week, and they just go to the sideline, pop it back in. That's, to me, is like the craziest part of being an NFL player. But yeah, they pop, I guess they popped it back in. Um, that's good for him.

Great for him. They probably made more fun of him. They probably would have had to just put him down at that age. If you break your leg, take out a curtain, tear out the, the patella ACL, MCL. It's a knee, his knee in that moment looked like I'm expecting jujusness shoosters need to look like at any moment this year. Yeah, I've told this story before, but I was at the game when, uh, when Joe Pog got rolled

up on on the Wisconsin side, on his sideline by a Wisconsin player and the whole crowd chanted shoot him like a horse. Maybe actually not so bad in retrospect. Do they, do they shoot horses? Yeah, they shoot horses. Well, they don't shoot them. They use the shoot them. Now they just euthanize them. Yeah, make some glue out of the turno. Yeah, but a whole crowd chaining shoot them like a horse. Turno pot.

We actually ended up being right. Turn them into like a starburst. Yeah. Use all that gelatin in his hooves. Yeah. The Bengals also, Jake Browning, we need to remember this, is a great lesson in time and place and skill positions around you. Because Jake Browning looked really good on Monday night

and it shouldn't have been that shocking. It was a little shocking, but it also shouldn't have been that shocking because, oh yeah, the Bengals have like awesome wide receivers. Yeah, they've got a great roster. And this is actually a perfect moment, Jake, if you're a listener of this podcast, which we know you are. That's just probably like 50, 50, right?

Jake, yeah, journey man. Seems like the guy journey back up order back. What up Jake, we always been a fan of you. Huge fan, how's that ground beef and that honey? Jake, well, that's funny. I actually just thought of that like he, so the ground beef and honey in his name is Browning. Interesting.

Yeah. When you combined it out with him doing that, like I'm just browning the hamburger. I'm browning the meat Jake Now is the time to fake a deep tissue injury. No, no, we didn't want more game I think right now you're coming off I don't think it gets better than Monday night. No, but that was a lot of you could always say there was a one-off We out we learned our mat Flynn lesson a long time ago. We got to do two. I don't know I don't know if every GM did if I were if I were Jake Browning

I would walk out take one snap and then be like oh my hamstring. Oh damn it You know what he needs to do he needs to add one thing to his repertoire He needs to get hit really hard and be okay and be like that guy's tough bounce back up. It's also tough Okay, so take a big sack and then bounce right back up and then go to the sidelines and start moving your armor. I'll be like, I think they're, it's my labor room. Oh shit. And he starts.

And he starts. And he starts. And he starts. And he starts. Yeah, because you will, Jake Browning. If this is your body of work right now, and I mean, if you happen to beat the cults this weekend, you have a Monday night victory in front of the world,

then you go and you beat the cults. You have earned yourself, my friend, probably $20 million. Although, I would make the argument that Jake Browning, yeah, money's cool, he could go maybe, I don't know if anyone would, you'd have to put in more work to be like, someone signed him for a starter,

but he might just be like the gym sorgi to Peyton Manning. If you're just career Joe Burrows back up, that's the best life ever. Cause you're also on a loaded team. Yeah. So like that might be like, what's the cost? If he got paid two, how much did you get paid? Let's see how much he gets paid right now.

He's been in the league for a while. So I'm going to guess probably around like three million. A million. He gets one year seven 50. Oh, he's getting paid seven 50 right now. So if you're Jake Browning and someone offered you, yeah, he's getting paid 750 right now. So if you're Jake Browning and someone offered you, yeah, he's made 1.7 total. So he's getting paid 750 this year. If the Bengals paid you two million and someone else tried to pay you for to be a starter on a shitty team, I think

I take the two. Oh, yeah, no, I'm not talking about like getting a starting jerk. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying like this is a great chance for you to get paid as a back. Yeah, just get paid a little bit more as a backup or a long time. The bangles can be like, hey, we have a real backup. You know what I would do. Get to the playoffs and you actually would get a starting job. What I would do if I were Jake Browning,

I would try to get a DeShawn Watson type contract, but as a backup. So like, I go for seven years fully guaranteed 2.5 a year. Yeah. That's pretty good, right? That would be hilarious. A seven year, uh, $8 million total cash. Yeah. Guaranteed. I mean, if you're Jake Browning, that's pretty good. Yeah. Signing bonus, maybe 50K. You're 50K and yeah, you get like maybe maybe a nice like Jeep Wrangler. Yeah. Jake Browning, good for for you though We're rooting for you and thanks for listening. I Was take God when I share a name with someone who does good things and sports fans of Jake's yeah

Yeah, they come down Campbell one's games. You're like that's my name. Nope Pft one Mike Flory. Well, it's a great article. I'm like that's your name. That's PFT. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't do that. Yeah By the school that you do do yeah he's got 12 all right I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna DM him right now is DM zero from just like Jake we're rooting for you Jake fake fake an injury if you have if you have a good first pack for you this weekend thanks for listening to the show I look to you doesn't follow PMT on Instagram yeah he doesn't follow me but his DM's are open. So I just hit him up Okay, a bit Spencer knows him. Yeah, he probably does. Okay. I'll text Spencer a little bit. Okay, nerd nugget

Doot do doot. Oh, this is early nerd nugget of the week. That was that was a painful one Do you would you rather be in a room 24 hours with Max and Hank or have to listen to do to do sound? One time. Yeah, probably in a room with Max. Yeah, have to listen to Dutu Dutu sound. One time? Yeah. Probably in a room with Max. Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm actually jealous of them right now. It looks like they're having a great time. Yeah, they do. Trade. This is the I-74 rivalry. Okay. Cincinnati versus Indianapolis is the closest geographical rivalry among cities in the AFC with a driving distance

of 110 miles along I-74. The next closest is Cleveland Pittsburgh at 137 miles. Ooh, fantastic. Yeah, so there's a lot of blood between these two teams via the map. A lot of blood map between us. Which the closest in the NFL,

would it be, it would be just a giant circle? It probably just a giant circle. I was gonna say Rams Chargers, yeah. But like teams that play in different stadiums. I would guess like Dolphins box. I know. I think maybe, maybe commanders, it's definitely commanders.

Yeah, commanders, even. Yeah, for sure. I gotta sneak you one for you that I always forget about because they don't even play in the same conference, but Atlanta and Nashville, so four hours apart. Yeah, I never think about that. Atlanta and Nashville So four hours apart. Yeah, I never think about that. Atlanta and Nashville are four hours apart.

I would also say Eagles Ravens. Yeah, Eagles Ravens. Those are really close. Eagles, Commanders. New York too, and Eagles, yeah. Yeah, the Northeast is all just jumbled. Yeah, make a lot of lists. Okay, so that was, your nerd nugget of the week was a map.

Yep. Okay. Okay. Uh, that's a Bengals PR for the. Yeah. It's that. Oh, you, Bengals PR. Well, it's a game, though. Oh, I thought they did the map. No, yeah, yeah.

Jake, Jake doesn't like come up with these on his own. I thought, for a second there, I thought he hit up Bengals PR. I was like, what's a nugget? And they're like, well, we're actually pretty close. Yeah. Do they stay overnight? Yeah, they have to. I'm sure they definitely do.

Like, have to have to like, no, but they don't have to leave like 7 a.m. Yeah, they're definitely doing that for body, like for being able to wake up in a hotel. I'm pretty sure home teams say it a hotel too. Yeah, they do. They always do, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. All right, Jagsett Browns. I have a question for you, PFT. So there is now a report that Trevor Lawrence might play. And we're, we like Trevor Lawrence. So no disrespect for what I'm about to say, but if Trevor Lawrence plays, does that make him tough or a pussy? Well, that's an interesting question. It's a, it's a conundrum because when, when he left the field, right, and we talked about this onrum because when when he left the field, right, we talked about this on a Tuesday. When he left the field, every Jaguar's fan thought, not only is

this season over, but next year's the drain to the way he like slammed his helmet down the ground. Again, just me, I would never leave a game like that. I would stay in. I would never get tackled, but sometimes a sprain is worse than a break. Correct. But it's a, it's a, this is a very like fine line we're walking because listen, I would be tough to play, but also be like, dude, what was that reaction? It's like when Mac Jones was crying with an ankle sprains like, I don't know. I thought you were, I thought you never were going to walk again. Yeah. I think, I think we have to look back and I mentioned it to Chaps. I was like, Chaps, I'm gonna say something to you that I will not say on the show.

I ended up saying on the show anyways, but Trevor Lawrence, kind of a pussy. Yeah. And then, and then Chaps was like, well, here's what he was actually crying about. He was crying because he was mad that he couldn't finish the game with his guys. Oh, okay, that's fair. That's football guy. That's a great spin zone. So I actually think Trevor Lawrence should not play just

so that we can have some time where it's like, oh, that was a real injury. Then next week he becomes tough. Yeah, because next week it's like, yeah, 10, 10 days of rehab. He's back tough. They need to say like, doctor said it would take me six weeks. I'm back in two. Yeah.

Yeah. This game is going to be weird though. This is going to be a weather game. Yeah, we have a few weather games. We got some weather going on. I think it's gonna be like 20 mile an hour winds or above in Cleveland. It's gonna have rain.

We might get grapple, which that's apparently whether that only Cleveland gets. The geography of Cleveland is so interesting because it's right on the lake and it's got all this crazy wind and all this crazy precipitation that comes in. They're the only city that I know of that gets grappled. I've never heard of grapple before,

but it's like, it's dirty sleep. It's like that shit that you find at the end of February that's been frozen on the roads for the last four months. In a parking lot, it's a target parking lot. It's all just piles. It's, Cleveland is basically America's rainforest. Yes. When it comes to the, to how weird and random the weather can be.

Yeah, and there's so many different species of animals that live there. It's actually a good, like, yeah, Cleveland's our rainforest. I like that. Don't destroy Cleveland. Yeah. You're probably destroying the cure for cancer. Yeah, right.

We need Cleveland as the oxygen hub of America. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's America's lungs. So I, I actually think that if Trevor Lawrence plays, that's bad for the Jags because he, the Jags have been very good with moving him and having him run for first downs. And if he plays, there's no way he's going to be 100% on the ankle. And if you're playing against the Browns defensive line and they have a quarterback back there that you know can't like scramble, there's gonna tee off. Yeah, counterpoint to that though. You probably still want an immobile Trevor Lawrence over CJ Bathered.

Mmm. Well, third-ground pick, right? Yeah, it's a fair counterpoint. Uh, the other big injury here, and I actually think this is a significant injury for this game specifically. So, um, member back week one, I think it was Christian Kirk had a bad game. Everyone was like, Christian Kirk's gonna be awesome in this offense. And then after that, Doug Peterson said, I can't remember who they played week one, but he's like, yeah, they played a lot of, uh, zone. Christian Kirk is, uh, thrives against man defense.

So he has, and if you look at the stats like throughout the season when they play heavy man defense Is Christian Kirk usually goes off the Browns are the number one man defense. So That's actually a huge injury for this specific game Christian Kirk being out. So he yeah, he would have gone off He would have been their antidote to what the Browns want to do defensively and now they don't have that So if you're the Jaguars if you lose lose this game, you say it would have been totally different if Christian Kirk had correct. So that's a good built-in excuse. Correct.

In addition to maybe a backup quarterback. More Flacco, more fun. More fun for the people. Let's see Joe. Let Joe Aaron out. He's used to playing. That's why the Ravens took him as high as they did. Yeah.

The story was that he played at Delaware. He played at Pittsburgh for a little bit. He's used to playing in shitty weather. In the AFC North, you have to play a lot of shitty weather games. That's why they took Joe also big hands strong arm. This is going to be a classic Joe Flacco shitty weather game. What's the crowd reaction to Joe Flacco? Is it full cheer? I don't think you can full cheer him yet. I think I did beat your fucking brain in. I don't I'm going to look up Joe Flacco versus the Brown. But I don't think they ever had real animosity

towards Joe Flacco. Hating Joe Flacco was like hitting a dog. Joe Flacco's record versus the Browns, one of guess 21 games. I'm 18 and three. Yeah. I'm looking up. No, I swear I guess.

18 and three. I was gonna say 18 and three too. Yeah, you were right. That was right, thanks. Good job, HIFT. 18 and three. Thanks Jay. Very cool. So he did kill the Browns. Yeah, but I don't think everyone killed the Browns back I don't think they hate Joe more than they hate like Peyton Manning I want the Browns to win this game. I want the Browns to be in the playoffs. Yeah, I'm rooting for the Browns to make the playoffs

So am I yeah, I'm heavily rooting for the Browns to make the playoffs. All right, nerd nugget for the third time in team history The Browns have started four different players like quarterback in the season, DeShon Watson, PJ Walker, DTR and Joe Flacco, 2008. They had Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey and Bruce Grad Kowski, who we saw on Great Week at Toledo. And in 1988, Bernie Koso are Mike Pagel, Pagel, Don Strach and Gary Danielson. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's classic Browns. Yeah. The quarterback they've had this year will be a nice little addition to that sad Jersey because you got the Sean, then you've got two guys that probably won't play

there much anymore after the season. You'll kind of forget their names over the years. Yeah, maybe TTR. I had the stat a few weeks ago, something insane. In the last 10 years, it was like 35 different quarterbacks played for the Browns. And that includes two seasons where Baker Mayfield didn't miss a start. Yeah, it's crazy.

And you also get Flacco on there. And that'll be a nice combo breaker when you look back on it. Oh, yeah, you remember Flacco was a Brown? Yeah. Okay, next up, Lines of Bears. I think the Bears can win this game. So you're not insane to say that. I think like a month ago would have been like,

okay, Big Cat's trying to talk himself up get himself Guided up for a game here. I think it's gonna be another city weather game. It's cleared up a little but get the early reports like it's funny how the gambling works like the I saw the the Bengals Colts game had bad weather reported on Monday and it went all the way down to like 41 and then on Tuesday like no just kidding and it went right back up to 44. So you got to be careful of the of the early reports. So I guess it was an early report that I saw. But the bears looking up the bears are looking way way way better than they were a month ago. The lions feeling hot right now. 36 degrees. No precipitation. That's not bad. I don't think I don't think a look ahead game

exists in Dan Campbell's universe. I think Dan Campbell respects the game of football. No, they're not going to look ahead because we the bears were were almost beat the lions three weeks ago. So I don't think that that's a possibility. I think the bears can win this game for a couple of reasons. One, the Bears run defense has been much improved. I think they're number one against the run in like the last month. That's what the Lions want to do. Two, Frank Ragnar, possibly out center for the Lions. Also, you know how we love to do the who's the most important player on the team? And Lions fans, you can tell me I'm stupid. You can tell me this makes no sense. I think it's Jared Goff. No, well, no, on their defense,

Aleem McNeil, their defense of tackle is out. And he, if you watch the Lions, like he has been the guy in the middle who's been able to keep things together, he's, he got put on IR. He's very, very important. Not like a name that everyone knows, but he's very, very important. And on, and then three,

Justin Fields against Alliance, they have never been able to stop him running. He's averaged 127 yards against the Lions on the ground running. There was one game last year we just went off on him. Yes. And did some very remember. Yeah, that that touch down where you like just broke every rush that linebacker in the end zone. Yes. So and that now you could say also counterpoint. It's still Luke Getzi and Matt Eberfluss. And I'd say, you know what, that's a really good counterpoint because the Bears will always find a way to lose a game. But I just, yeah, I think the Bears might be able to win this one.

And I, Lions fans know we've talked about it. Like their defense is troubling. Very trouble. It's troubling. And I still think lines are a really good team, so it's not like trying to shit on the lines. Their offense is elite. They just have to figure out, and they will get guys back. They'll get guys healthier, so they can hope that late December

early January, they start to turn a corner. But right now, I'd put it under the troubling category. It's concerning to me. Yeah. If I was Elon Musk replying to a tweet, I would say this game concerning for the lines defense. Their defense last week against the Saints was very bad for about two and a half quarters.

That game felt like it was out of reach after seven minutes. No, no, no, no, no. Like nothing, no lead is safe really if you're a Detroit fan. And they're getting, yeah, I think what, Anselonies have been out. CJ Gardner Johnson has been out. Yeah, like they have a few guys that are going to come back. I'll leave McNeil. McNeil will hopefully come back. I think you got put on, I think they said four weeks. And I think they signed another guy in place. So yeah, maybe they'll, they'll be able to turn

around once again, healthy, get healthy at the right time. I do love branch. I love branch. Yeah. He's a monster there. There was a very mean report that came out yesterday. It said Brian Branch said that the Washington commanders said that they were going to draft them if he was still on the board with a 16th pick. And then they just didn't do it. And he's like glad that we didn't take him.

Which is fair. I'd probably be glad if I was a defensive player that did not get drafted by the commanders. But to put that report out now, it's like one of my favorite rookies wanted to play on the team that I love. And then he's like, but they just didn't take me. It's unnecessary, loving salt in the woods.

Like coaches graphic that they show. Yeah, that's just one, the season's been hard enough. We're losing all our good players. Our pets heads are falling off. I don't need to know that Brian Branch wanted to play for my team. Yeah, the enemy's gonna be the next coach of the Bears. Like this sock. Congratulations. Yeah, the enemy is going to be the next coach of the Bears like this.

Yeah, suck. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. Um, I will see. We'll see what happens on Sunday. This is why they play the games. I, I hope Lions fans know, um, I, I do come in peace because it's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And I have not gotten, I think we talked about this before the season that there will be a moment when the Lions are good enough, um, and start winning enough that I will start hating them because the indivision I have not reached that moment like I don't hate the lions yeah I mean I root for Jared that'll be way premature if you start the line yeah no they have to they have to like start stacking up some NFC north you know titles and I'm like yeah fuck I hate them because they keep winning this but it hasn't gotten there yet I'd still all eyes on you know the packers and how much I hate them. If the Lions win this weekend, I think I'm gonna crown them champions of the NFC North. I think I'm going to be pretty close.

I'm going to anoint them. They'll be pretty close. They are, they're getting close to their magic number. Uh, okay. They're nugget. Lions Tiedend Sam LaPorta is just a sixth player in NFL history and first Tiedend to produce 60 reception, 675 yards and six touchdowns through 12 career games. He joins. Justin Jefferson, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Marcus Colston and Quambold. He's a beast.

He's so good. He's a half those numbers as a Tyden. We talked to Gronk in a minute and he mentioned Sam Laporta. For people who are watching the YouTube right now, Max is now just doing the balloon by himself. Hank is quit doing the balloon by himself. Hank has quit on the balloon. It's very funny. Maybe they're going in shifts.

Maybe Max is going in and Hank gets sloppy. I can see Hank just being like, you know I'm your boss. Pass it around here. You take the balloon. Okay, next up, box of Falcons. This could decide the NFC South. I think it probably will.

If the Falcons win, it would be hard for them not to win the NFC South the Falcons aren't dead if they lose by no means No, because they already beat the box. It's a tie But yeah, if the Falcons win this game, I will anoint them NFC South champions and I I feel like the box defense is getting by a little bit on reputation these days and they have a ton of injuries I mean still got collage of cancee. They do. So many TFLs, which I meant to talk to you about. Should we, should we maybe put a little on Will Anderson?

Let me see, cause Will Anderson, or I think like, do you actually have an airdog in on him later on? Jalen Carter, I think is the favorite in Devon Witherspoon, but if the Texans go to the playoffs, I think Will Anderson, like he had two sacks last week, he's starting to, he might be the guy right now. Trying to find the thing. He's plus 350. I think it might be a Will Anderson bet time. Let's see, defensive rookie of the year. I think where we at. I think we need to go. Jalen Carter's minus 200. Yeah. Will Anderson's plus 350, Brian Branch plus 4,000.

I'll sprinkle on Will. I think Will might win it. I'm also going to sprinkle on Brian. If the Texans get to the playoffs, I think they'll clean up on some of these awards. Well, they're going to get CJ for sure. Right. He's locked in right now. Although Puka.

Puka. Puka. Jopuka. Not bad. Jopuka. Come back, player of the year. maybe Mechie. Mechie's going to be stepping up. Yeah. Yeah. Take that out. Yeah, I like the Falcons of this game. And I'm just going back to what no one in the NFC South excites me. But if I had to pick it would be the Falcons. The Falcons, they can be fun. Yeah, no, and I just like, I wish Taylor Hanuky was playing,

but in terms of being in the playoffs, I don't wanna watch the bucks in the playoffs. I don't wanna watch the Saints in the playoffs. I could talk myself into watching the Falcons in the playoffs. I think the Falcons might be a team you don't wanna play in the playoffs. I don't think that's true. Cause they can muck it up.

I think whoever, I think whoever, it will most likely be the Cowboys, I think they'll be fine playing the Falcons in the playoffs We'll see they'll be more than happy to go play the Falcons in the playoffs They're gonna be the most disrespect to team in the playoffs and rightfully so and rightfully why are the Falcons hosting a playoff game? Yeah, and rightfully so but still I might unload on the cowboys now that we're saying it. Okay, nerd nugget. Buck and years wide receiver Mike Evans, as we mentioned the other day, now has 1,000 receiving yards. It's his fifth career season with that. Having 1,000 receiving yards and ten or more receiving touchdowns at Tyson for the fifth most NFL history. Every player with at least five seasons of 10 touchdowns in 1,000 yards all in the hall of fame.

Yeah, he's a first-bound hall of fame. Yeah, he's been incredible. We think about Baker, so if the bucks end their season, let's just say they're eight and nine. I think you're probably realistic, right? Maybe seven and 10. Yeah. But if they're eight and nine,

what are the chances Baker comes back to the bucks next year? I think he comes back. I think they'll probably draft someone. Yeah. But I think they're done with Trask. Yeah. I think if Trask hasn't taken over the job by now. He would have done it.

Yeah. There's probably a reason for that. He would have done it. Uh, okay. Next up, Texans, oh no, sorry, Panthers, it's Saints. Gross. Gross. The only thing I had on this game is, uh, I oftentimes struggle with, uh, a narrative

and went to, when the narrative actually dies, example, like Oregon when they switched from Chip Kelly, just, you know, when they had a couple string of bad coaches and I was like, but it's Oregon, they're going to be good offensively. Like they're going to score 70 points. I can't get out of my head if I know a team is one way. And then all this evidence shows me something else. I'm like, no, but it's so hard. It's exactly what it is.

What I, my point is the dome is not, it's not a home field advantage right now. So the Saints are O and five against the spread this year at home. They're O and seven and they're last seven against the spread at home. They're five and 15 against the spread at home since 2021. The dome is not the dome. Yeah.

So it goes. The dome has been aging along with a lot of the roster. Right. So it's like put in your head. You always say when there's a game in New Orleans, you're like, tough place to play. I think the dome has the dome picks and chooses its moments. So like a big third down, the dome can still bring it for like one play. But it can't sustain it.

But it doesn't sustain it. No, it's like an aging veteran that you put in to rush the passer on third and longs, and that's their specialty. That's kind of what the domes are, right? The dome doesn't have, needs to get its cardio up. Yeah, well, I don't know if the dome can get its cardio to the point that it once was.

Yeah. You just, they need good players. That's probably what would get the dome back. Yeah, they need, the second that they don't start anybody on offense that was also around during the Drupes era. At that point, then I think the dome could get its mojo back. Because the easier way to say it is, it has nothing to do with the dome and it's the fact that it's a stintious stink.

Wait, the dome, don't discount the dome. I'm not discounting the dome. I've been saying you could alternately say, well, yeah, because they're not good. The dome is, it's had an off couple years. It is the first time I think they have this O and five against Switzerland's like 1980. It's also cool that they just get to call their dome the dome. The dome. It's the dome. It is. It's not the super dome. Like other domes, they exist. There are other stadiums that have domes. But if you were to say like, like Atlanta,

and you don't call that the dome. No, that's Mercedes Ben. That's the bottle. Yeah, I, the dome. It's where they don't sort of Chick-fil-A on Sundays. Yeah, dome is just a great name. Yeah, I love dome. I do too.

I love every thing. Big fan of dome. Huge fan. Jake, you love dome? Can't say I hate it. Missed position. All right, all right. Okay, so I kind of want to take the Panthers in this game. Uh, yeah, I don't I still don't know what to make about table or

the interim coach. Um, there was a report that came out this week that it was like the Hunger Games inside the facility where other coaches were like texting with. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Behind Frank Reich's back. Is that really behind the head coach's back? Is it on an NFL team? Is it normal for only the head coach's back? Is it on an NFL team? Is it normal for only the head coach to have a relationship with the owner? I don't know. Does it feel like a functional work environment?

It's like everybody should be in contact with everybody that wants to talk to them. Ah, no, I would say that like the special teams coach probably doesn't talk to the owner very often. It depends, I guess, on what's being said. Yeah. Like if Tepper is reaching out to the special teams guy probably doesn't talk to the owner very often. It depends I guess on what's being said. Yeah. Like if Tepper is reaching out to the special teams guy and he's like, Hey, Chris, what do you think about Frank's play call?

Right. Last week when it was fourth down and he went for it. And then if you're doing that kind of back and forth, then yeah, that's hunger gameship. Yeah. I also, the Panthers, I'll say this, JC Horn is back. He played last week in limited amounts, but he's gonna be ramped up this week. He does change their defense.

Yeah. So, I think I'm gonna take the Panthers. Again, if you're a Saints fan, and I had a lot of Saints fans reach out to me, and they agreed, like, they should not be winning games now. Getting into the playoffs this year for the Saints is bad for the future of the franchise. Just, they need the full reset. Give me full TASM game. Give me, give me TASM all the time. We might get Jamis bad for the future of the franchise. He just need the full reset.

Give me full TASEM game. Give me, give me TASEM all the way. We might get Jamis. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like, I- Derrick Hard just doesn't want to sit. I made the switch last week where I thought to myself like, TASEM as a starting quarterback,

I think he gives you the best chance to win right now if you haven't. Yeah, but- But he's so hard to plan for. But Derrick Hard, like, this guy won't just sit down for a game. Let me see. What is he? Yeah, he's limited in practice. He's tough.

He's just let James play. It also just occurred to me that there's a chance that David Tepper himself was the source of the Hunger Games quote. Yeah, because in his mind, he's like, I run such like a tight ship around here and everybody fears me that they think it's a hunger game. So he thinks that's cool. Yeah. There's a good chance that that's what happens.

Yeah, he definitely wasn't like somebody complaining about being pitted against their coworkers. Yeah. Tepper wants people to know that's how I welcome the hunger game. Yeah. David Tepper joint. Okay, nerd nugget.

Last week, Staines running back Alvin Cameras to pass Mark Kielston to become the franchise's total yards from Scrimmage leader at 9,809. So he said, 1.91 away from 10,000 yards. Okay. As a saint.

Last early game, Texans and jets, memes, I got bad news for you. I think I'm gonna take the jets. I think what Zach Wilson is a spark. I do. I think he's the spark. You're not trolling? No, I keep thinking about it more and more. And it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's maybe less Zach Wilson and more just looking at the board

and being like, everyone's going to say Texas minus three and a half is the easiest bet. They, they pay those guys on the jets to play football too. And Zach Wilson might be a spark. So it's the saddest spark ever. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think it is. No, we said it. Tim Boyle to Tim Boyle. Trevor Simeon to Tim Boyle was filling in.

That's a sad spark going back to Zach Wilson. That's sadder, but for much, much different reason. Yeah, but I still think the benching Trevor Simeon for Tim Boyle is the saddest spark you can ever do. At that point, it was about more like just not having Tim Boyle on the field, like anybody but Tim Boyle with Zach Wilson. It's like, maybe, maybe he's learned how to play quarterback in the last week. Yeah. maybe fresh. Maybe my legs. Maybe just last three years, we can just kind of put those out the window. Maybe now is the time.

Something clicked. Yeah. Did something click for Zach Wilson during this last week was getting benched in that fashion wake up call for young Zach. It's a good question. It could be. Memes?

I think it's the only like semi-mobile quarterback left in the room room like Trevor sent me into three steps immediately got it. Maybe that's why they're putting them back in because Salah hates them and wants to get hurt. There was that report really. I'm Joe Benango the WFA and radio host. He had a text message with Robert Salah and he leaked it on air and made it sound like Robert Salah hated Jack Wilson. Yeah, this could be, this could be coach being like, I'm so mad at you for you, I had to start you so many times this season when I didn't want to.

Now I'm going to start you and hopefully you're going to get destroyed. Yeah. This could be a vengeance start from Salah. It's very possible and I think the defense might even be like a weaker two away from just completely quitting I think yeah, I think there are game-to-game quit watch like we saw the dolphins game is the halftime Yeah, last week day they were still flying. Yeah, there was there was a chance for a second there There's like hey, maybe they're gonna win this game to nothing. I love it when defense is fly around out there That's my favorite. And then you also have the rookie quarterback.

C.J. Stroud is due for a rookie quarterback game. No tank tell. No tank tell. It's an elite defense. Robert Salad knows Dmitco Ryan's very well. Kind of a master and student in the pupil. Is that no? Matt.

No teacher student. Teacher student. No. Teacher and pupil. Teacher and teacher student. Teacher student. No. Teacher and pupil. Teacher and pupil. I said student and pupil. I don't even know why I'm trying to talk myself into this. Well, I'll give you a,

because I started this snowball. There's a certain young man that's coming back this weekend expected to make a big, big difference on a jet's office. We're talking Spark. Big Spark for the jets. People have been talking about this guy for the last couple of weeks.

Like when's he gonna get out there on the field? There have been videos of him warming up all the time. When is this guy gonna play? Izzy. Izzy season. Izzy. It's officially Izzy season. It is.

It's officially Izzy. It might be officially Izzy season. Oh my God, I'm gonna have to bet this fucking guy who's never even gonna get in the game. No, he's gonna get in this week, right? There's no chance, he never gets in. It's not confirmed, but Breeshal was. Breeshal said he was gonna play.

But will he be 100%? Will he be 100? Would you rather have 60% Breeshal or 110% Izzy? 60% Breeshal. 110% Izzy. 60% Breeshal. 110% Izzy. Give me a take a 10% Breeshal.

I take breeze hall He doesn't have he doesn't have legs feed me is he all right. Let's just do breeze hall and is he no Did the jets are gonna score two touchdowns? What are you talking about without that one cook you can't the jets Betting the jets to score two touchdowns would be the craziest bed ever But now fuck now maybe they will yeah I objected last week when they said they lost a one score game with the jets. That's not a one score

game. Also, that's that's like a for safety game. Here's here's something for you memes. Um, the last eight Texans games lost by two one by seven one by two one by two one by three one by five lost by three one by five. My point, They don't really, these games are always tight. They can be better than a team and it will come down to the last possession. I think we're going to take the Jets memes. Texas playing fun games. They were a touch. I mean, okay, uh, nerd nugget.

So I confuse Willie Anderson and Derek Stingley. This is out there. Stingley. Texas. That's a huge mistake. Yeah, Texas cornerback Derek Stingley is the first player in franchise history. It's how they four interceptions in a three game span as the only player in the league to accomplish that feat this season.

He joins Darius Williams and Matt Bellano as the only players to record an interception in three consecutive games this year. So wait, you gave us a preview of the nerd nugget and it wasn't even the right guy. Well, Willa Anderson got brought up a few games ago and I'm like, oh, yeah, I have something on him, but it was the wrong text. Different texts. Different texts. Yeah, your text is confused.

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lowest price, guaranteed. Okay, late slate, Vikings at Raiders. Justin Jefferson back. Jefferson back, which is good because this is another receiver that Josh Dobbs does not have a connection with yet, meaning he will play really well with Justin Jefferson. Yes. That's what he does.

We looked it up, I think it's the Dunning Kruger effect. Yeah. Where you start out and you're really good, then the more you know you get worse. Yes. And then at the end, when you're an expert, then you're really good again. I, uh, Justin Jefferson also, Nate Tyson,

who does a great job, wrote an article about Justin Jefferson in the run game. Like the Vikings run game is way more efficient when he's on the field, not even because of him as a blocker, but just because of what defenses have to prepare for with Justin Jefferson. I this game though, any result wouldn't surprise me. Uh, yeah, I don't think that the, I don't think that the Vikings are good enough to be expected to win this game and the favorites on the road and their favorites on the road.

And the Raiders are not bad. No. They've actually been, they've been okay. They've been decent since making the coaching change. Like Josh McDaniels is probably, what lies do you think Josh McDaniels is telling himself to explain how they got so much better? Because he's not admitting like, schedule. He's probably doing a big schedule thing.

Yeah, look at, oh, look how soft it was. I would have won all these games anyway. I didn't get the right opportunity. Yeah Stole this from me. That's probably what he's saying, but they're they're a much better team without them obviously And I think these are just two this is this is the mid off of the week. Yeah, Vikings Raiders mid off of the week and whoever wins Can tell themselves maybe playoffs even though I think the Vikings might There was that nice run, but the fact that the Rams and the Packers have looked ascendant, makes me like, don't the Vikings have to play the Vikings play the pack only

play the Packers one more time. They play the Lions twice. They play the Lions twice. So yeah, maybe they could still make the playoffs. They could. Oh, yeah, if they beat the Lions twice, they definitely have to win this game. They have to win this game. They got to win this one. I mean, if you're a Vikings fan, you got a team that fights. You guys have been fighting your dick off. Yeah, I'm going to give you a defensive coordinator that at the start of the year looked like somehow this defense might be worse than the defense was last year, but things have gotten

into shape over there. There was an article that came out about him about how he invented a new kind of defense this year. Like a new way to look at the zone blitz that's never been done in the history of the NFL. So if you're a Vikings fan, you've got that, your defense is better and you've been fighting in every game. So you're, I guess you're happy. It's like you, you could say that if Kirk Cousins was still a quarterback, we'd be right in the thick of it. Yeah. And now that I'm looking at it, like they do have everything in front of them,

they put the Lions, Packers and Lions to finish the season. Yeah. So yeah, but they got to win this fighting. They have to win this one. This is a must win. Um, okay. Uh, nerd nugget for this game. Vikings fans are familiar with Raiders or Cerva Devonthe Adams. No player has caught more touchdowns against Minnesota than Adams who recorded 13 while with the Packers. Mm hmm. Okay. Um, all right, next game, Broncos of Chargers. I like the Broncos in this game and I'll state my case. I was looking at it, PFT. The Chargers offense stinks now.

We, back to the dome discussion about, you know, perception, you're like, oh, Justin Herbert, they got all these weapons. Austin Eccler looks old, they can't run the ball. Joshua Palmer has been out, so they only have Keenan Allen. PFT Keenan Allen has the most receptions on the Chargers team. How many more receptions does he have than the second most? I'm going to say he has 800 more receptions.

He has 71 more receptions. Okay. The second most receptions on the team. I'm going to tell you about this year. This year. Okay. This year, receptions on the team. Or until I this year. This year. Okay. This year, 71.

Yeah, it's a lot. And Kenan Allen needs to be respected more. He does. And he, so I went and looked at it since Joshua Palmer has been out because he was, he was a good receiver. He was a good complimentary piece to Kenan Allen. Kenan Allen has accounted for 46% of all chargers passing yards. Yeah. It's literally just throw.

I think Brandon Sale even said it. It's like if I could throw it to him like 80 times, I would. There was one game that threw it to him, probably like 25, 26 times. Yeah. He's awesome. He's the most crisp route runner in the NFL. So I say all that. That's probably not true, but he's very good. I say all that because the Broncos, if they want to do this, who knows if they will, but they could very good. I say all that because the Broncos if they want to do this who knows if they will but they could just

Put Patrick stand on them. Mm-hmm, and then they have nothing and they have literally nothing like this is a team that is getting by on I don't even know if they're getting by in reputation anymore because everyone thinks they stink But you do think chargers you think offense like they have so many guys They don't got anyone. It's also a sad state of affairs if you're the chargers and you're like, people are only talking about us because of our reputation as the chargers. Right. Which is a good reputation.

Although the one thing that's holding them up, I think Khalil Mac is leading the NFL in SACS. He is. So he's having a great season individually. He also I think he's had the, I think he's like four games in a row, multiple SACS. Like he's been a beast. Yeah, he's still very, very good.

This spread chargers minus three, multiple sacks like he's he's been a beast. Yeah, he's he's still very, very good. This this spread chargers minus three. I'm going to tip my hat to my hat to Vegas. I think Vegas nailed the spread. Yeah. Because somebody's winning this game by three points. We can do the old mincey. Yeah. They got it right. They got this one right. They got this one right. So this is a stay only to give a pick. They get they got it right. It's a stay away from me. I kind of like the Broncos. I think they got it right. They got it right. Uh, okay, nerd nugget in this game. Broncos, Water Seever. Cortland Slutton needs one touchdown to become the first Broncos since Water Seever

to Mary is Thomas and Tyden Julius Thomas in 2014 to record double digit receiving touchdowns in a single season. He's good. He's good. He's good. He's been very good. Those teams are amazing too. Yes.

Patents, guys. Yes. Um, okay. Those teams are amazing too. Yes. Payton's guys. Yes. Okay. Bill's the Chiefs. BFD, I'm gonna talk crazy for a second. Permission to talk crazy. Go off. If you think the bills are gonna win this game, I do. I do too. If you think the bills are gonna win this game, why not bet them to win the soup? I guess it's fair. There's 35 to 1 right now. think the bills are gonna win this game? Why not bet them to win the soup?

I guess it's fair. There's 35 to one right now. It's fair. They have to get, like, the bills to me right now, I don't know if they're gonna make the playoffs. I think it's probably a toss up at this point because they do have a tough schedule. And if they don't make the playoffs, it's only themselves to blame

because they lost games in the beginning of the season to teams that they should have beaten easily and we know how that went. But if they do make the playoffs and considering all the injuries and weird shit that's happened on all the teams ahead of them, why would the bills not be just as capable as all these other teams? And in their current form, maybe outside of the Ravens, you can say there's a hole there. Yeah, so I understand you logic. Their schedule is not super easy. No, it's hard.

So, there is a way that they could win this game and then very easily not make the playoffs. But my point is if they win this game, the price will go from like 35 to 120 to 1. Yeah, now would be the time to do it and maybe cash out. This is by the way that we should do an alert because people have been accusing us of glazing the bills recently. Oh yeah, I'm glazing the bills. Big Tom, Jay Glazer over here. I mean, the bills, they're getting glazed.

I still think they're a very good team. They just have, the bills have only themselves to blame for what has happened this season. They have lost games that they should never have lost and they lost games to teams that they should have killed. They lost the Patriots. Yep, didn't they? Yeah. They lost the jets. They lost the jets, they lost games to teams that they should have killed. They lost the Patriots. Yep. And they lost to the jets.

They lost the jets. They lost to the Broncos when the Broncos were still like bad and hadn't put it back together. They've lost games. They are the only themselves to blame. But I'm just saying in terms of a value proposition, if you told me the bills were in the playoffs, like what would be the argument that they don't have just as much of a chance as every other team given what's were in the playoffs, like what would be the argument that they don't have just as much of a chance

as every other team, given what's happened in the AFC? It's not like the bills are so much better than everyone else. I think everyone else has come down a little bit. I think the value proposition against that would be they're still coached by Sean McDermott. Yeah, and it's been tough. There was a very interesting article

that came out today. I don't know if this came across your desk bit, Kat. Came across mine. Tyler Dunn wrote this, regarding Sean McDermott. Okay. And some of the ways that maybe inside the building, he's lost some of the team. There was an anecdote from 2021

when he was addressing the entire team. This was at St. John Fisher College in Pittsburgh, New York. McDermott's morning address began innocently enough. He told the entire team they needed to come together. But then sources on hand say he used a strange model. The terrorists on September 11th, 2001. He cited the hijackers as this is an athletic plus plus. This is not the athletic premium plus.

I don't think that when I saw this, I was like, I thought to myself, did I tweet the screenshot out? And so I had to look it up. So okay, continue. Wait, he cited the hijackers as a group of people who were still able to get on the same page to orchestrate a tax to perfection. One by one, McDermott started asking specific players in the room questions. What tactics do you think they used to come together? Oh, man. A young player tried to methodically answer, what do you think their biggest obstacle was?

A veteran answered TSA, which mercifully lightened the mood. A fact-check TSA did not exist until after 9-11, for a related reason. But yeah, if you've reached the point in your motivational speeches where you're asking the guys to emulate the hijackers on September 11th, 2001, on your football team, I think it's time to start asking some questions about how, how can we get this guy like just a word of the day calendar that we can all study and rally. Yeah. Like, let's get, let's get back to watching, help, bring in Sean Payton and have the wildlife channel of like, gazelles getting hunted down by lions and other guys.

Two true stories. Two true stories, trust false. Yeah. Let's go back. Maybe let's do another rookie skit. Icebreakers. The rookie skit. Fun facts.

Goes out there like George W. Bush. Yeah. Alright, so I just search Sean McDermott's name on ex formerly Twitter. He spoke Yeah. All right. So I just searched Sean McDermott's name on X, formerly Twitter. He spoke to the media today. So this is breaking news of gas like 10 minutes. He said that his intent with the team meeting in 2019 in which he referenced 9-11 was to emphasize the importance of communication. He said that he regretted it and apologized to the team soon after for not better communicating

his point. That's ironic. Yeah. He was doing a lesson on communication and he didn't communicate that you shouldn't use the terrorists on 9-11 as the point to prove about communication. He should have had someone come in and speak to him before he talked to the team and use the 9-11 hijackers as an example of how he should be communicating with his team, then he would not have used the example of the 9-11 hijackers when he communicated with his team.

Okay, you know what? Everything I said about the bills when I said I'm throwing out, does not count. Disavow. I'm, I, listen, I didn't expect it to go this way, but I thought, I think they're going to win this game, but the fact that their head coach has to do a press conference today talking about the time that he said that the 9-11 hijackers were really communicated well and they're admirable to look at in a team building standpoint. Yeah.

I didn't see that one coming. I'm going to say you can't, we win a Super Bowl if that happened. I'm going to agree with that. I'm going to go, you know what? Everything we said, we're no more glazing. We have not glazed anymore. Part of my take, we're removing the glaze. We are a-

Yes. We are a- On this podcast, if we stand for nothing else, we're anti Nazi and we are anti 9-11 hijackers. That legitimately, I, I, I, I, I, This of L, I was going to bet the bills and I, I will not. I can't. Like what are we talking about?

It's the old drill tweet, like under no circumstances, do you have to hand it to the 9-11 hijack? Yeah. All right, chiefs. All right, chiefs, chiefs today. I think I got to fix my advisors pick. Like I made, I, I, people are going to say you're pro 9-11 now. Yeah, when they see All right, chiefs, chiefs today. I think I got to fix my advisors pick. Like I made, I, I, people are going to say you're pro 9-11 now.

Yeah, when they see advisors, they're like, oh, you picked the bills. I, I, I, can we, Material change? That was taped on Wednesday. Can we go back to our interview with Sean McDerman and just add to the lower third part of my take does not endorse the 9-11 hijackers?

Just run during that interview? I wish we had known this. This would have been a good clip for us to bring out. It would have, yeah. I'm actually shocked that none of this came out before now. Yeah. You know, they say like, it actually is a sign that he is in trouble

because someone's been holding that. Yes. They're like, I know that I can just say this to a reporter at some point. Yeah, because when you're winning football games, nobody cares what motivational tactics is. Shoesies. But the second things go south,

all of a sudden that 9-11 speech that you gave gets brought up. Okay. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Shocking. Shocking even as far as NFL head coach motivational tactics go.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to change my picture that chiefs everywhere. Okay. Nerd nugget. The offenses led by Josh Allen and Patrick Mah Mahomes may end up stealing the show here, but both the bills and chiefs have three players each with at least six sacks this season. Time for the second most in the NFL that's obviously the league with four players who have

at least six sacks. The chiefs defense, I'm a little worried about because I think maybe Nick Bolton is coming back, but they had Nick Bolton go down. I think in the charges game. Then Drew Trank will went down last week in the green Bay game with a concussion. Both, like, those are the guys, green dot guys who are communicating the entire defense, and you could tell in the Packers game, like it was a drop off. So I think Nick Bolton is going to play.

I don't know what Drew Tranquil, if you can get out of concussion protocol that quick, but that is something to watch because I that is part of Like Steve's Magnol wants to do some funky ass shit. You probably can't get it It's very rare that a player now comes out of concussion protocol within the week rock bird He did rock party is elite. He's built their face elite As far as the 9-11 thing goes again like If you're going to motivate your players it it actually makes sense that the bill's seasons have been the way that they were

because the hijack, they didn't study how to take off or land. Yeah. And they're always bad at the start of the season, bad at the end of the season. Yeah, man. They're good on cruise control. That's shocking.

It is shocking, isn't it? Yeah. By the way, we just got a text message, I think, from me, or no, maybe from Shane saying, Jerry just asked if he should go in and leave blow the balloon. Yes Yes, we won't count it against them, but I would like to see them react like that If you're watching on the YouTube right now, you're gonna get a treat because Jerry's gonna be both a balloon and see how they react. This would be great. Okay Seahawks 49ers is the last afternoon game chirp chirp chirp chirp oh Okay, Seahawks 49ers is the last afternoon game.

Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. Oh! Bird! Not get over the week. Oh! I like it. For the Seahawks. That's a good tune, where did you get it? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.

That's good, I like that. I like it too. Bird, not get over the week. Did you know that a Seahawk is not an actual bird? Oh. It's not a bird. The Seahawks have a mascot in a logo that does not exist as an actual animal in real life now Some people see go on steroids. We got a bunch of osprey heads out there being like you'll PFT It's it's an osprey some people call an osprey seahawk and the first place that's two words see and hawk in the second place

There's other birds that are also called Seahawks. So it can be a scua or an osprey. There's no such thing as a Seahawk. Now other fun fact about the Seahawks mascot. Wait, are we on live? Did Shane put us live on the stream? Don't put us on the stream. Because we don't, I mean, we're doing pertin nuggets

to the week. We can't have the people, you got to turn it into part of my take for that stuff. Yeah, so this is very important because you might say to yourself, hey, PFT, they actually have a live mascot, that's a hawk. And you're right, they very much do in fact, have a live mascot.

It's not a sea hawk. The live mascot that they use is a captive bread, 10 year old auger hawk named Taima. Does he live by the sea? Taima, no, auger hawks live in the fucking mountains of Africa. And it's not even a sea hawk named taima does he live by the sea? No, hogger hawks live in the fucking mountains of Africa. Oh, and it's not even a sea hawk. So there's no such thing as a sea hawk. Bird nugget of the week.

That was a great bird nugget of the one. Good song. Nine years are going to win this game. I have talked myself into the sea hawks being frisky. Okay, can I help you? They were frisky last week. Yeah, they were frisky last week. It felt like it was a throw everything

in the kitchen, you know, the kitchen sink game where it's like we got to win this game. The Niners officially are the best team in the NFL. You could just point to their three losses, Dibo Samuel and Trent Williams being out and how good they've looked every single game that they have not been out. Yep.

I also think the Seahawks struggle defending the middle of the field, struggle in tackling. Christian McCaffer is pretty good at avoiding tackles and running around some middle. Feel the same with Kiddles, same with Debo. He's good in the middle of the field. Bobby Wagner. He's Bobby Wagner, maybe lost a step.

Well, he's definitely lost a step from his prime, but he's still not bad. I like the Seahawks to cover in this game. 10 and a half. I, he's definitely lost a step from his prime, but he's still not bad. I I like the see ox to cover in this game Um 10 and a half. That's their trapping you. That's a lot of points. I think it's happening I think you're getting trapped by the Niners Yeah, they're coming off a miniby from last Thursday. No the see ox are see ox are yeah the see ox are coming off a buy a miniby from last Okay comes the leaf blower They're they're struggling. They're getting up. They're getting up. This is great. This is

This is some great action right now They're gonna Hank's trying to block the leaf All right, they survived oh, yeah, they oh Jerry's so got him they survive. Oh, yeah, they, oh, Jerry's still got him. This is, this is really the dumbest thing ever, but it's so funny. I hate starting to block. Hank and Max are blocked with his body. They're doing a good job. Yeah, this is good, this is good teamwork. You know what? Like Hank and Max, they seem like they've learned a lot from the 9-11 hijackers. Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say so. All right, they're fighting back.

Yeah, there we go. There we go. It's Mark Wahlberg right there. Does he have a box cutter? No. Good. Okay, yeah. So I think it's a Seahawks trap.

I don't think I'm getting trapped. I think the 49ers are obviously the best team in the NFC. And when they've got their guys, when they've got their guys back, they're the best team in the NFL, I just think that 10 and a half points is a lot of points. I don't think that the C-Ox are gonna win the trap. They're not gonna win this game. But they look frisky enough on the road in Dallas on Thursday night that I'm like, they should not be 10 and a half point underdogs. Exactly. It shouldn't be. Drop. I think you're getting trapped. No, do you, everything you explained is the trap. I saw them on national television. Yeah,

exactly. The most recent game that I saw this year, it's perfect amount where you're like, they don't have to even be close. Yeah. Back to me on 10. Yeah, no, you could, yeah, that is open. All right. Nerd nugget. Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalfe needs one reception and 88 yards to become the third player NFL history three three 50 catches 900 yards and five touchdowns in each of his first five seasons. Randy Moss, AJ Green. He was awesome Thursday night. I'm fashion them. It was great to see that you are facts. Alright, last game. Crown Jewel. Eagles of Cowboys, Eagles have been outgained by a hundred yards in the last five, five, five games, five straight games.

They've been winning some, some close ones. Yeah. I also, I think this is the, uh, battle of fraud defenses. Okay. Eagles, that's the stat with the Eagles. They've been outgained a hundred yards in the last five games. Uh, the last five games. The Cowboys defense, I was looking it up. I was getting into the weeds.

So they've given up 220 points. And five of those games, they give up 40 total points. Those five games were against the Patriots, the Panthers, the Giants, twice, and the Jets. Those four teams are the four last teams in offense in the NFL. So in five games this year against those teams, they've giving up eight points per game, and the other seven games are giving up 27 points. Yeah, they beat up on bad teams. Right. And so it's like, Crush Bad Teams. I love this over.

I really don't know. This is kind of a, maybe we'll go back to the mincey's like, Crush Bad teams. I love this over. I really don't know. This is kind of a, maybe we'll go back to the mincey, like, perfect spread. Cause I kind of wanted the Cowboys, but now it's three and a half. Good job, Vegas. Good job. Like three and a half makes you scared.

You look at three and you're like, oh, that's yummy. And then three and a half, I go, I don't want that. The hook dangling out there, because then you know for certain, you're gonna lose because of that halfway. Yes.

We should talk about Mike McCarthy and his health adventure. He's been through this week. He had appendicitis, he had a swollen appendix. They removed it, he said he's going to coach this guy. Free diet. Free diet. Yeah. Because he just lost his appendix.

He made him lose two pounds. Mike McCarthy might not have been fat. Maybe his appendix had just been gradually bursting and growing for the last 15 years. Yeah. And they're going to take it out and he's going to be hot. He's like violet boguard. He's going to have last 15 years. Yeah. And they're gonna take it out and he's gonna be hot. He's like violet boguard. He's gonna have a six pack. Yeah.

So McCarthy, I could see him also using the appendix as a motivational tool. Like have it in a jar. Smash it. Smash his appendix, get his guts. I'm spilling my guts for you guys. I'm getting my guts on all these players. So I was wondering how this would play into it.

And I asked our good friend Will Com Compton and kind of long we were here today. And they said that it's this late in the season, it actually would maybe be good because it's like a substitute teacher energy where it's like the defensive coordinator offensive coordinator are now running the practices. It kind of makes it loose like, Oh, you think you're going to be the head coach. Oh, you're not the head coach. So kind of like a fun vibe that they can get out of this I would also like it if Mike McCarthy coached this game from a hospital bed would be great you freeze Yeah, you freeze it like up in the suite next to Jerry Maybe Jerry's there like manning his IV telling him what plays to call. Yeah, that would be awesome

You also it might be it might be a good thing if Mike McCarthy doesn't coach. If you have Dan Quinn stuff. Situationally, like, I mean, that throw that they made on third down on Thursday night to stop the clock, like Mike McCarthy still does some really stupid shit. That's what I was saying at the start of the show on Friday was no one's going to talk about that because they ended up winning the game, but that very easily could have cost on the game. Yeah. That was how many he gave him like 40 seconds. It's crazy.

Here's 40 seconds for free. Mike McCarthy also, I saw someone pose this, but he is in the running for like one of the best regular season coaches of all time. I want to see what his record is. I'm looking it up right now, scrolls, scroll, head coaching record. Here it is.

Oh no, 164 and 100. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's not best of all time. Regular season. Uh, okay. Nerd nugget. Philadelphia is three and only on Sunday night football under Nick Sireoni, which is the longest active streak of SNF wins in the NFL. The Eagles have won each of their last two games versus that list on SNF. Okay. three games in a row. Although the Cowboys. Dac is actually beating the Eagles more like he has a better record against the Eagles than you to imagine.

I actually thought the way that they lost the Eagles earlier this year was it was perfect because the Cowboys played good enough to beat the Eagles. Right. Game. Dac played awesome. Had a great game and then just step that a balance barely just by a little bit to yard shy where it will just drive you insane. And people be like, see, Dak sucks. He stepped out of bounds.

We didn't reality. He played an awesome game. And they'll all forget about that and be like, oh, well, he costs us at the last minute. That's the perfect way, in my opinion, for any Dallas Cowboys lost to occur. Remember that game too, when we were watching it, the Cowboys were just able to get yards a lot easier than it felt like the Eagles were. Just go to CD. And they were just kind of ripping them up in the middle.

Jake Ferguson has also been like very, very good and has kind of changed their offense a little bit. I'm going to look it up real quick. The Cowboys Eagles game from earlier this year, While they played a lot longer ago than I realized. How was it like four weeks ago? Three weeks? Yeah. It was week nine. No, November 5th. It flies by. So long time ago. Yeah, the Cowboys had 406 yards to the Eagles Eagles 292. Okay. Wait, did you do the Narnaga A did? Okay, that was a great preview, boys.

Didn't think we were gonna get it in I 11. You're a bit nervous, you got it. Chef, you just tweeted the article too, so it's official. Yeah, I mean, he did a press conference, just talking about it. So he clearly knew, that was a sucked for Sean McTermin to be like any day, could say the nine eleven story

yeah i just got i got a notification mcdermott addresses nine eleven comments bills coach said he regretted comments that he made during a team meeting it this does feel like a fake article it feel the entire thing feels fake but it's real which is crazy yeah that really is insane uh... okay we think air and roger would say about that actually but i could actually they didn't work that hard together because it That really is insane. Okay, we think Aaron Rogers would say about that. He'd be like, good boy. Actually, they didn't work that hard together because it was a CIA.

Yeah. This wild. Wild. Okay, picks. Let's do it. Five weeks to go. Ten picks remaining. For the opening act, Jake, 16 and a half, excuse me, memes, 15, max, 14.

Close. So yes, very close. For the main event, Big Cat, 17 and a half, PFT, 16, Hank, 11 and a half. Okay. Oh, not in a. Four and a half points out with 10 to play. I mean, anything could happen. Anything could happen. I'm not safe. That's what we're looking at. Big cat, you're not safe. No, no, you can't expect yourself.

No, but Hank, yeah, he went O and two last week. And Big Cat went two and O. Yeah. But you'll be miserable, don't you? The opening act is wide open. Only of us. It could happen too. I then pancakes.

Big Cat would like to report your change. Big cat a transactional change. So McGlinch, you got hurt. Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 34, PFT and I tied with 31, big cat 25, meme 24. All right. I think that's going to be a fun video too, because we're all going to be participating. Yeah, I want. Yeah, except for the person that's eating 24 pancakes. I want to know if you can. 18 is really tough to. Third place is premium. Yeah. With 34s. It's zero, three, six, 12, 18, 24. I want to to get 12 12 pancakes would be the best right now PFT me and you were tied for third and fourth we'd probably just split it and do nine each right sounds good So that'll be another stream that we'll get yeah, everyone. I think I was thinking about it

What like we should probably we can just have chef Donnie make his pancakes. Yeah, we can do it here Yeah, get a couple tall stacks. Yeah, the terminal show me how to attack on him made a French toast for the guys for the Stream today. It smelled so good. Yeah, I can't remember is it just 24 pancake straighter is it the deal like I think we're doing the hours Yeah, the hours thing. Yeah, right. So all right, so that's not yeah, you could sit eat 12 pancakes in 12 hours That's still what suck. It depends on the size and then the people who the people who Have to do six and and what is it six 12? Zero three six 12 18 24 so the people who could do the other as soon as they finish their pancakes They can leave yep, yeah, that's pretty good and Hank's case most likely zero

Yeah, so he can hang out and just make fun of us. Yeah, he needs that he needs a win like that Okay, memes you we be ready pancakes. We have to do it. Oh, yeah. This punishment rules. I don't think it does. I think you're very wrong. I have eaten. I once tried to eat 10 pancakes just on a bet and it was hard. Yeah. 10 pancakes is a lot. I think 12 though. You get to have two meals. You split it up into six and six and you just hang out with the boys, eat pancakes. I like that. I'd it's technically kind of another 24 hour stream could be could be. Yeah, I mean, you don't eat any pancakes. You have to sit in that room for 24 hours.

It would be kind of funny to just one pancake. Yeah, just be like, I'm on a diet. I'd rather just hang out and I acted the chat. Yeah. Okay. Also, they submitted their picks since they're not on the show right now. They also only gave one pick each. So should we give submitted their picks since they're not on the show right now. They also only gave one pick each show So she's give them their picks. Oh, so they're just doing like a is this a silent

Protest well, we can go it we can talk to them right? Yeah, yeah, right now all right So let's do let's do their they both get a pick and then we'll do all of our picks and then they can just pick something right Okay, so Hank has the chiefs minus one and a half against the Bills. He probably knew about the 9-11 thing. He did. And Max has his Eagles plus three and a half against the Cowboys. Okay, so who's up first? I believe PFT.

I'm going to take... I'm going to take the... Browns minus three at home like against the Jags. Yep, like it. Like it. Okay. I'm going to take the Niners minus 10 and a half against the Seahawks. I think they really separate themselves from the rest of the league. You're getting trapped, Jake. Okay. We'll see. Okay. Memes.

I think Max would be up here. No, we're just going to go to them at the end for their two picks. Okay. Cause they they were asked to give two picks. They just didn't they also didn't have their phones. All right, well, we'll let them just pick right. Eagles, Cowboys over. I wanted that. I wanted that bad. All right, so I got two. I'll do Bears plus three and a half. And I'll tell you, Bucks Falcons over 40 and a half. That was a game member. It was like 1917, but there was seven turnovers in the red zone first time.

I think I had like 700 yards of offense or something crazy like that. Okay, memes going back around to you. Colts plus one. Okay. Against, I see one and a half. Ooh, memes. I see one.

And I'll take one and a half. I'll take one and a half. Can we be one and a half? I'll take one and a half. Meme's a stayed up. He deserves that half a point. I'm going to take Texans Jets under 33 and a half. Okay, you don't have to say it like that.

I don't know. Really hit the under hard. I, mm-hmm, yeah. PFT. Zach Wills. I am going to take, which is down between two for me right now. I'm going to take the over in the Rams Ravens, 39 and a half.

I like it. Okay. You can wire us in, Shane. We'll ask them for their last two picks. Are all their picks there? Yeah. No one took any of their picks. Yeah.

Yeah. They have their first two. Yeah. So I'll just say them. Yeah. Memes, excuse me, Max took Indianapolisapolis in Sinari over 43 and a half and Hank has They did do picks. Yeah, yeah, but like if if you wanted oh Shane don't put us in we don't need to talk they didn't send a backup got it got none of us took them They sent one pick so if you had it got it got it

Yeah, so max took cold Bengals over 43 and a half and Hank has Bronco's Chargers under 40. Oh, yes. So it worked out perfect. No overlaps. I was confused. All right. We got two interviews.

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And he's with us because he's hosting a bowl game. The LA Bowl December 16th, Boise State UCLA. Grant, great to see you. First question, what the hell does it mean to host the bowl game? What is this entails? Yeah, it's what's up guys. Great to be back on the show. I love you guys. Let your show. And on top of that, man, it's a special moment for me. Uh, when I got the, you know, the LA bowl brought to me, the interest of me hosting it. It definitely triggered something because my last game at the University of Arizona that I played and it definitely triggered something because my last game at the University of Arizona

that I played and it was actually in this ballgame when it was in Las Vegas. It was a conference matchup, the same conference matchup in Las Vegas. It was the first ballgame of the University of Arizona went to in 10 years and we beat BYU who was ranked number 17 in the country at the time and Willie Tuttama, our quarterback

who's gonna be at the ballgame actually, the LA ball. He lives in San Diego now, so he's driving up. He threw four over 300 yards. My brother, Chris, who was a ballback, had a touchdown up the middle. I didn't have a touchdown, which was rare for me and Kyle's, but that's all right, because he's the NYU. And now it's a full circle moment because this game is now in LA. It's the last game I played in at the University of Arizona. Now I'll be hosting the ball game that I last played in. So that's pretty special, man. It's a special moment. And that's what really got me to host this ball game for sure. I love it. That is very cool. I can only imagine like you think it back to all the touch

on you did score those teammates you had. Now you're now you're hosting the event. As far as hosting the event goes though, what does that entail? What is hosting a bowl game mean? Do you just, are you just getting the party started? Yes, exactly what it means. I'm going to get the party started. Also, you got to go on a little promotion tour. So I'm here doing the little promotion tour going on a couple of shows promoting the

bowl game to get people there. We got Boise State versus UCLA, which is going to be a great game. But then on top of it, when it really matters is, you know, bringing the attitude to the game, bringing the atmosphere of energetic, you know, type of atmosphere to the game as well. And obviously I got to perform. I can't just host a game and show up and wave, kiss babies. I got to perform. And this is where I got to talk to you big cat. Yes. Now, you've done some special things. I will be singing the national anthem at this bowl game as well. And I have watched you about four or five times in my life,

sing the national anthem at the Routing fights that you guys held. Russell, other couple events. So can you please give me a tip? Big yeah, what I need to know when I when I fricking sing this national anthem and light up the whole arena. Okay. So can you sing? No, I cannot sing I was on the mass singer and I beat little Wayne in the first round and shock and calm and the second round

And I think it was because of my dance moves, but then after that I was I was voted off But they're also helping me out because I did sing for them. I did sing for the committee. Julian Adam was there and told me he needs 10 more shots for me to continue singing because it was so bad. But they got the new directions veterans choir to sing with me. Oh, like they're helping me out. They don't want me to fail. Yeah.

Got a good base around me. Okay. So I guess my only tip would be you got to have someone hold up the words just in case you freeze up because I've screwed up the words before and that's the worst feeling in the world. That people take the national anthem very seriously. So maybe someone just, you know, maybe have Gordy just standing behind the camera with a big cue card. You ready to go. You know, that is a good point. I was already thinking about that and sometimes they put the national anthem like in the NFL games I saw it, they put it up on the Jumbo Tron,

just so everyone would sing a log. But really, it's for the person that's singing the national anthem. So I'm gonna have them do that. Thank you. It's, it's like, you obviously, everyone knows the national anthem, but it's like little stuff,

like like bombs bursting in air, not through air, and like that stuff. Like I had the first one I ever did was the windy city Thunderbolts when Dave and I went out and tried out for the team. And I think I said through air and it's an in air and I had like a World War 2 Navy vet come up to me after he's like you messed up the anthem and I was like, oh, fuck, never again. Never again.

Well, I messed up one word. You're never going to get USAAA if you screw that up. Yeah. Yeah. And you're a vet. You know, I got to get USAAA if you screw that up. Yeah, yeah. And you're a vet. You know, I gotta get USAAA and that's very true. I've been trying to get out of the plane at the Air Force base on Fox freaking three weeks ago. And then one of the condense was there.

He's like, you deserve USAAA. I was like, I know I do. And then he's like, well, you haven't served yet. He goes, how about you marry my sister? You'll get USAAA that. I was like, oh man. Hey, whatever it takes, I need to get a hold. Maybe singing the national anthem will get me there now.

That might do it. Or you can just like go over season, just fight in the war on your own. Just be like, hey, Grox here. I'm just trying to get that good insurance. You know, what if I did serve before our culture? And I went over, I was in Afghanistan, I was freaking, and the army tank shooting freaking rockets

out of it, all that goes down. I'm pretty bad at it in Afghanistan, I was freaking, and the army tank shooting freaking rockets out of it. All that could have done, that would be pretty bad. Yeah, be sweet. You might be too tall for a tank though. Yeah, it's close quarters in there. Julie and Edelman would fit perfectly in it. Yeah, a little tiny guy. Yeah.

They would specialize, they would get in the factory right now and do a specialized tank for myself. I think the grok tank. The grok tank would grok. That would be sick. So we're not gonna ask you if you're retired because I know that you are retired. I'm a specialized tank for my software. I think the wrong tank. Wrong tank would wrong. That would be sick. So we're not going to ask you if you're retired because I know that you are retired.

But I will ask you another football related question about your time in the league. Specifically, spending so much time around Bill Bellicek, there's been a lot of smoke out there about Bellicek, maybe taking a different coaching job next year. Some people, a lot of people are having the conversation about the Washington commanders for Bill Bellicek. Would you be surprised to see him go to a different team?

I would be surprised for him to go to a different team. I mean, it would just be really weird first off and just be weird just seeing him on another team. I mean, he's been went to England for so long. I kind of feel like, yeah, this season's really rough, but he is still one of the greatest coaches of all time. There's no doubt about that. I mean, I played for him. I learned from him. He helped develop me to be the player

that I was. There's no doubt about that. And if he's not one of the greatest coaches of all time, he is the greatest coach of all time. He knows his football inside and out. I saw firsthand every single day. There's no doubt about that. But just to see him on another team would be really weird. I believe he's really grandfather clause in with the New England Patriots. I mean, he would have to have like another year, like this year, next year for them to finally be like, all right, it's time. Let's move on. But I truly believe that he will be here next year. But if he does go to another team, like the Washington commanders, I mean, it doesn't really, you know, rival with the New England Patriots.

Kind of like when we went to the Tampa Bay Bucceers, it's not like we went to the Miami dolphins or the Buffalo Bills. So it would have to be a team like that where it doesn't have any beef with the Patriots. So the commanders, I would say, would be a team he would go to, but I just don't see that happening after this year. I think I'll definitely have another year to redeem himself. Yeah. So, um, you are retired, but when was the last time

you got a phone call? And it could be from Tom Brady. I would assume when Tom Brady thinks like people maybe kick the tires on him, he's like, well, I got to make sure that Bronx also coming too. Yes, well, no, I haven't got a call from Tom. The last time I talked to him though was actually yesterday, he sent me a clip of our playoff touchdowns

and he wrote to me, bro, no one done it like, oh, I was like, bro, those are some badass clips. So that's what you got me to do. And I haven't really realized like, we were freaking badass. We were, if not the best duo to do it in the game, my man. I mean, watching the highlights now ain't no one doing like what we did back in the day. There's no doubt about it. We played physical football. We played smart football like no one else does. We grinded our way out of situations whenever we needed to. But on top of that, I got a call from

a two teams this year in the off season. But yeah, it just wasn't interested. I mean, there were great teams. It would have been a great situation, but it just wasn't ready to go. So the bills and who else? No, it wasn't the bills. What?

No, well, first off, I mean, it's kind of out there with the giants because of Brian Dable. He was my position coach for three years here. And I loved having no match. My position coach, man, he was just a great guy. Great attitude brought the juice to the table every single time. But I mean, he knew it was kind of like a home run.

We talk every once in a while and he's like, yo, come on, come out, come with us. You and Darren Waller, you guys would be a great duo. And I was like, I know we would be, but bro, I'm good. I'm all done. I got 11 years in the league, freaking four Super Bowl, six times went to the Super Bowl. A lot of crazy action off the field as well up in the New England area. So I did it all, man, very satisfied with my career. And then what was the other team? Oh, the other team. Oh, man, I don't even want to say. No, you got to say it. Come on, we get we can guess. NFC or NFC. NFC or NFC. NFC or NFC.

NFC or NFC or NFC? NFC. Uh, NFC. All right. We got three guests. I got one. Um, the Raiders. All right.

You hit it right on the show. No. That wasn't too long. That was actually really. Josh. I mean, that's when you got McDaniels over there. What he was there. If I know the offense, so, um, I mean, that was an easy guess.

My man got it right. Yeah. Do you think you would have been able to play in Las Vegas? You got McDaniels over there. What he was there, if I know the offense. So, I mean, that was an easy guess. My man, you got to write it. Yeah. Do you think you would have been able to play in Las Vegas? Ooh. Yeah, I would have been able to play. I mean, not a computer in my career, but I would have been able to play in Las Vegas now.

I can black that, you know, all that, made him stuff out now. So, you are retired. Have you had the moment yet? Because it's like, you know, there's not many guys that retire and it's just a Guarantee first ballot hall of favor. Have you had that thought like hey three years from now or whatever it might be three four years I can't remember what what the exact date is like you're gonna get the knock on the door. It's gonna be a pretty fucking crazy moment

It's gonna be a really crazy moment, man It still really hasn't hit me and I think it's still really weird to me because I'm so young. And if I never came back out of retirement, went to the box and I just stayed retired, it would actually be this year that if I went first bail, I would actually be going into Hall of Fame right now and I'm just 34 years old and that would have been like super, super weird. So like, I think like, because that's like a moment that you want to cherish when you're older. So like, it still really hasn't hit me because I'm like, just 34. There's guys still playing the league that are my age right now currently as well. So maybe it'll hit me in like a year or two. I mean, I just went into the Hall of Fame at the University

of Arizona. They just put me in the sports hall of fame there a couple months ago. Last month actually. So that was a good start, man. That was a little, you know, kicked, you know, get that feeling of what it's like. Sounds like you have to have a kid. You got to have a kid before you go in the hall, famed. And you can hold it. It's not like that, man. I'm not a dog who's just chilling right next to me. He's kind of like my first kid. He's getting me ready for a real kid. But, man, I would love to have a little grog running around just going crazy. My brother's, oh, I am an action uncle and what is uncle and what's the one where you have a nephew?

I'm an uncle and oh nine. So I'm at, no, I'm not an aunt. I was so happy to have a nephew, but I'm a fan. Wait, you have nine nephews, nine nephews. Nine nephews, no, seven nephews, two nieces, or three nieces or three need there's gonna be so many grogues in the world oh my god that's a scary bro let me tell you their their legends are athletic they're gonna be the next

generation of Brock out pretty good as well and I'm super excited to see them it gets me juice every time I watch them and one day I won't be having a little rock running around that you have baby grog running around yeah oh yeah what is up liby done what yeah what what around. You ever have baby grok running around? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What is it up, Libby Don? What, yeah. What went through your head when baby grok was all over the news for like that week? You remember that week?

Yeah. That was just crazy, man. And I actually followed baby grok when I was doing a little autograph signing. The got the autograph guy was like, yo, you see this baby grok guy? And I'm like, no, I have. And he's like, you should follow him. It's kind of funny. And this was like way before he blew up. And it was like kind of funny stuff. And I'm like, no, I have him. He's like, you should follow him. It's kind of funny. And this was like way before he blew up.

And it was like kind of funny stuff. And I was like, oh, that's cool. But that he just took it to a whole freaking other level, bro. Like whatever a couple months ago, and I was like, it kind of blew my mind. I was like, I mean, I'm not kind of here to support that. I think it's just too young of an age

and to just see what they're doing. I mean, some of the material was freaking pretty funny. Like, did you see when they posted his mom, if that was really a problem? Yeah, I'm like, yeah. It was the most outrageous picture. I lost my mind, like the cleavage was just taking out. It was so out of control.

And I wasn't even sure if it was a bomb or not, but I would say just maybe they took it to a little to a level and it's kind of like setting your kid up for failure. I would say a little bit because like you don't know they're so young. He's like 10 or 12 years old. So like kids be kids. The dad like feeding all the lines and stuff. That was a little uncomfortable. We're we're a little uncomfortable. We're baby digs guys. Anyway, I don't know if you've seen baby digs. Yeah, I did. That was cool too. Yeah, baby digs is a man. Big digs rocks. Yeah. Sorry, so grog you're crushing the media now

You're everywhere. We all kind of figured you would we would be because your personality How has it been though like transitioning to media being you have to watch games like we watch games not so easy right like we've always said that Watching all the games might be harder than playing in the game 100% agree with that watching all the games is harder than playing in the game You got to know about every player you got to know about every team and that's why I'll never be a commentator as well You got to be way too into it. I'm way too busy man And I love the game of football, but I don't see myself, you know, commentating on games. That's why I like the job that I have being an analyst. And I'm also part time. I just signed a new deal with Fox where I just do about

time to 12 of over a year. So I don't have to fly out to LA every single time. And I got all the playoff games as well. But it is a job, man. I'm actually impressed with what you guys do. How you guys all between out and full knowing what's going job, man. I'm actually impressed with what you guys do, how you guys all between out and in fall, knowing what's going on, knowing the players, knowing the stats, it's impressive, man. You've got to be fully into it to actually understand what's going on truly. And it is work, man. And that's why I'm just an analyst, so because you can pick it

up, you can kind of like kind of watch the game and then throw your thoughts out there as well. But I feel like it's the perfect job for me that I have right now that I'll stick to. Yeah, one underrated part about what we do and how hard our job is. Not only do we have to watch every game of football, we also have to watch every pre-game show.

Yeah. Every half time show and every post game show and we have to take what you guys say, then we have to analyze that too. So it's like two jobs. We're working like more than full time doing a podcast. It's hard. Yeah, and then on top of it, you have to be funny as well. Yeah, we're working like more than full time doing a podcast, it's hard. Yeah, and then on top of it,

you have to be funny as well. Yeah, try that deal. Yeah, ideally. Yeah, that part's hit or miss. Or you can be so bad sometimes that you become good. Yeah, that's the other thing about being an analyst is if you're like the loudest, wrongest person, then you're actually good again

because people will just argue with you all the time. I would say that's where I started when I first started with the Fox team. I was so bad. I was talking about Julian scoring touchdowns and getting that nut in the end zone because he's a squirrel and like that hit off. It was so bad, but it was so good, man. Yeah. They didn't win speak to you after that. We're like, Hey, Rob, we like what you're doing. You're pushing the edge a little bit, but maybe if you could not talk about a player coming on the air, that would be great. like what you're doing, you're pushing the edge a little bit, but maybe you could not talk about a player coming on the air. That would be great.

No, they loved it. My man, no one talked to me about it. And I feel like they want more of that type of stuff. I mean, it was clean. Yeah, it was clean. Yeah. Yeah. You brought up jewels. We haven't seen them in a while. He's been ducking us. Hopefully we're going to see him soon. Is he getting a little chubby? Is he getting a little fat? Jewels? Oh my gosh. I would love to see Jules chubby. I would just rip out him every single day. Like man, what happened to you? Because every day in the locker room, he used to walk by with a shirt off. I'd make bro you boxer rip. Cause Julian is rip. He got the lungs coming out. The biceps showing. He like boxer rip where everything's just popping.

So if he gets a little chubby, I'd make bro you kind of you not boxer rip no more. You sumo wrestler. Yes. Yes. Dude, nobody I haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while. He used to just post all shirtless pictures on Instagram. We we gave him a lot of shit his famous father's day post where it was just like him with his shirt off catching footballs and his dad like kind of like putting his hand in front of him. And that was the father's day post. It was literally like looking how ripped I am. I haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while. I actually did see him with his shirt off that a week.

Well, because he's actually with Fox as well. He does the pregame show before ours and sometimes comes on ours. I sometimes come on his and I saw him change again and he actually is still really red man. But he goes, I don't really have it. I haven't worked down a while and I I was like, bro, while you super red for working out for a while.

So, he's back into it, but I'm actually for it for him to get chunky. That'd be pretty funny. Yeah, be very awesome. He looks so fat with the beard too. Just go outside. He looked like Jersey Jerry, if you can. Yeah, it'd be awesome.

Great, it'd be great. Grok, so I'm curious to know you've been out of the league for a little bit. You were a guy that loved physical contact. You like running over people, throwing people out of the club. Do you miss that aspect of it? Do you have an outlet for you to physically dominate another person in your daily life? Yeah, I love doing activities, my man.

I love competing still, obviously. Cornhole, I mean, I get intense at cornhole, play some pickleball, I shoot the basketball around, three point games and all that. But I would say that Russian came from when I was a kid, man, I was at three older brothers, one younger. We had about 20 other kids on our street. They were all older than myself.

And I was always competing with them, playing tactical football at seven years old, versus 10 year olds, taking them out of stale. Got tons of beatings when I was a kid. Charlie horses every single day. So I was kind of a guy that just fiended for the pain, fiended for the hitting. And I feel like I was numb to the pain as well

because of my childhood. That's why I just loved the aggression of the game. And that's why I could just hit someone and it was like nothing. I could just keep on going my man. Yeah, but you don't have any of that right now. Like you don't do mixed martial arts. You don't wrestle. No, not nothing really like that, man. I mean, I think it's finally out of me. It took about 30 plus years to get out of me. But I grind still get that

lift in, still run a little bit, but that like true aggression is trying to hit someone. I'm just saving it if someone tries to cheap shot me. So I'm ready just to knock them right out. Yeah. Yeah. That's pent up. We got to get you to our new office in Chicago because it's like it's a grunk Like you know toy land for you. We had a basketball court You guys still in New York. We still have an office in New York We have one in Chicago to we have like a full basketball court like tons of games and shit y'all you would love it You just we just get you wrestling there. We got I'm there. I play some basketball shoot three pointers and throw down some serious dunks. Oh, you can dunk. Oh, I can dunk like a madman right now, bro. Oh, I like that. I like that. Hey, what, what,

when you close your eyes, you think about like one touchdown or one game. What game is that? The game, I would say, is the first Super Bowl that we won. Because it put me in the Super Bowl club, you know, winning the Super Bowl. Also, the game was legendary, very Seattle, obviously, with the mountain-butter interception, and just overall, the game was just crazy, the up and downs. And then the catch, I would say, would be the one-handed catch, two of them, versus the Broncos. When I just put my hand up, Tom Prupp behind me, I brought it down to two. And then also the one-hander, versus Buffalo Bills, my hometown team.

So it was just special to do it against them. And it was at your left state. I just put my hand out like that on the one, Tom threw it back there. I just brought it right in for a touchdown. So the one-hander is always stick out. Yes, nice. Would you say, I'm going to look up the stats right now, because I can't think about it offhand,

but I feel like just like remembering games. I feel like your best game was in a loss. That AFC championship game against the Broncos was like the best game you ever played because you were just everything. Yeah, and I would definitely say it was one of my best games. What was crazy is I think I got food poisoning from the night before I showed up to the game and I was feeling like complete pool, man. I wanted to throw up everywhere, but I just got my wheels turning my engine going when

we started. And I remember it was 4th and 10 in the huddle. I'm pretty sure Tom got a screen pass called in and it was 4th and 10 on our own 30 guideline and it was like what 45 seconds left in the game. And I was feeling the game though by then. I've already had a good game and Tom looks at me and I'm like bro what's the screen pass like bro like let's call something where I can make a play and he gets and he calls us all goes and I run by right by double coverage and one of the guys was Chris Harris all

pro DB so these guys are running like four threes. I turned up the notch a little bit 260 pounds and ran right by the little guy. He threw a bomb about 40 yards in the air. I brought it down on 4th and 10 to save the season for the Patriots at that moment. So whenever it came to clutch plays, man, that's why I live for a man. I live for clutch moments like that. And then down there, two fourth and goal on the goal line, time food and double coverage. Again, jumped over the guy for the touchdown. And unfortunately, I was open on the two point conversion to tie the game, but we won't Tom threw it in double coverage again jumped over the guy for the touchdown and unfortunately

I was open on the two point conversion to tie the game, but we won't talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, that was eight I just looked up eight for one forty four in a touchdown. That was the game the Dave Didn't account for the air. That was his big news after he's like I didn't account for the air because he booked his he booked Air B&B in San Francisco for the entire week before you guys even got to the AFC championship game. And then he was like, fuck, I have to pay for this whole Super Bowl house. And I didn't account for the air. So is that why we lost? It might have. He didn't account for the air. Well, on that note, how much credit do you give Dave Portnoy for the Patriots success

throughout the years? I think you would probably give him, he put himself up there, well, I guess, Robert Crack. Hank too. Yeah, Hank, so it was like a Bella check Brady Portnoy, that's what Kraft said. So between Portnoy and Hank, how much credit do you think Dave deserves for the Patriots dynasty? I would say Dave deserves a lot of credit,

no doubt about it. I mean, the guy kind of put the Patriots on the mapping some great ways. I mean, he grew up. Like I always said, Portni started like at the same time as I. We're kind of like rookies together and we both grew with the Bar-Soul brand and my brand at the same time we were both blossoming. I was a big fan of Bar-Soul. Bar-Soul was a big fan of me. You guys were running the craziest articles about me throughout the beginning of my career. We were loving every moment. We were being read them in the locker room and stuff.

And we'd be laughing at our ass off doing it as well. So, partying on you, you know, definitely a huge Patriot fan, definitely helped put the Patriots just on the map even more than the Patriots were on the map. So, I gotta give some serious credit to a man. Now, I don't say, I mean, Mr. Kraut is right. You know, he's number three in line.

How can you argue with him? Yeah. Well, with Hank, you remember Hank got arrested for Tom Brady. Going through deflate gate, Hank locked himself in the lobby of the NFL League office. What was your reaction when you saw the bar stool guys like chaining themselves in an act of civil disobedience going to jail for your quarterback?

You know, that's why I love you guys even more at that moment. When I saw Hank do that, I mean, I knew he was all in as a Patriot fan and that's a true Patriot fan that he's willing to go to jail to represent the Patriots and to represent Tom Brady. So I love you guys. I love you Hank for doing that and also gave us entertainment as well because it's a grind man, you know, it's a grind with the media as well. Sometimes always, you know, on top of us and then to see see something like that in the media, what you guys to see hang through in

that. It's kind of a relief. And it was funny, man. We love hanging for it. I don't know if the story of regard told, I think it probably did in one of the documents, but Groanck was, uh, he actually, there's people out there who went to, when we did the blackout parties, you, you don't realize it, but Groanck was there with the, with the, um, mascot hat on dancing on the stage. So you saw it. I was at a couple blackout parties about two of them. All my friends always went to them before as well. I went to one in Tampa. I put the mascot and I'd be dancing on the stage like a maniac. I remember we have a bottle of like vodka, two on the

side that we'd be pounding underneath the mask as well So we're definitely good under that mask and just going absolutely ham I mean those parties definitely fit me when I was what 23 years old on the Patriots I mean those were the best times for sure man. No thought about it. Yeah, yeah, oh good I was gonna say looking around the league right now. Who's the who's the actual baby drunk in the league? We like to always anoint the next big tight end, like, oh, this guy's next Rob Gronkowski. But like from your opinion,

who's the guy that plays the game most similarly to you? Cause there can't be another drunk. But if there's a guy that's next in line in that vein, who would it be? I'm gonna go with the guy from the Detroit right now. He's a rookie Sam LaPorta. I mean, he brings it to the table. I mean, he's having a great rookie year.

I mean, to have a rookie year like that in the tight end position, not a tight end don't have good rookie years because it's the top position to play and to understand. He's got a block end catch as well. But Sam Moporta is bringing it to the table. He's fast. He's got great hands on the run. He breaks tackles as well. He can line up out wide, do the slants, all that good stuff. And he's willing to block as well. I won't say he brings it to the table. Like I do in the block game, but I would say he brings out, he's the most similar guy that's up and coming

that kind of represents my game as well. That is something like you, you, I mean, you were such a tremendous blocker. And I think that, you know, there's a lot of tight ends now that are more pass catchers, but like a kiddo is like, he blocks his ass off. Like watching great, you know, I just called him great kiddo because we make a joke about that.

But like those guys you could do everything. It's, it really is like they're, they're the best athletes on the, on the field. Yeah, definitely, man. And I took pride in my black and that's for sure. I mean, I always was focusing on the block and be every single practice, especially my second year in the league. That's when I really, really learned how to block. And now, actually, my first year as a rookie, because that's what got me on the field,

because I was so, so in the past game at the moment, I actually couldn't remember the plays in the past game. So that's why I really didn't have that much, you know, targets my rookie year until half way through the year. Finally, I'll click, but they love my block and are willing to block. And also I knew, I will garnarner much respect from all the other players, willing to, you know, sacrifice and get dirty in the trenches. And that's what I did, man. I loved it. And I go back now and I watch some of these highlights. So like when

Stephen Ridley beat whatever ran against Kevin Hart and tore his, when Kevin Hart tore his obliquer ever in his stomach. So then the NFL posted that on their, on their Instagram. And then they posted some highlights of Stephen Ridley running the ball. So then the NFL posted that on their on their Instagram and then they posted some highlights of Stephen Ridley running the ball. And then I saw some of my blocks just from Stephen Ridley running the ball to Randall plays. And like there was three plays in the row that they showed and each time I took my DN and I just tossed them back like five yards and right to the ground. I was like, holy shit, baby. Like no way. That's how I was blocking. I mean, that was a fucking dog, bro

And I loved it and I'm sure that's why a lot of my teammates respect me because I love grinding like that I love having the big hits. It was just as good as going to touchdown Yeah, I also love the fact that Tom Brady text you with a highlight reel and just like hey, remember how awesome we were Yeah, that's pretty cool that rule cuz like fans do that to each other like I could see a Patriot's fan Just like texting Hank on a random day like remember how awesome Brady and Grockler But you're actually looking at that. You're like yeah, we were pretty good. I was like bro We really jet and then I was like we were the best to do it. No doubt about it The best tool that there's no doubt I was like I'm walking football now

Yeah, what do you think is your funniest play that you've ever had? Because there are two that come to mind. There's one where you just laughed in the guy's face and did the grog spike. We did the big, ha ha ha ha spike. And then there was one against Ryan Carrigan where he tried to tackle you. And he probably weighs like 285 pounds.

And he just grabbed the back of your shirt and kind of tried to sit down. And he just ran him into the end zone like he was a sled behind you. But you've got a lot of very funny plays. So in your opinion, what's the funniest? All right, bro. Those are two good ones right there.

And I got two for you. One of them was versus Steelers. I caught a first down pass up the seam. I was laying on the ground and I just decided to put my hand back for it as a first down marker laying on the ground. Like it made me laugh when I saw it in the film room. And then another play was versus Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs. I caught another scene pass and the safety came and grabbed me.

And it's in the way he grabbed me and pulled down my pants and my ass cheeks were hanging out. And his face was right against my ass cheeks. My ass was going in the game. And there's a picture of it on the internet. You just type it in the Google like, ground Baltimore Ravens ass Eye or whatever it is. The face is right against it, man.

And it's great. Oh my God, it's so good. That's so good. Oh my God. It's so good. He literally is right in your ass. That's so funny. He definitely got to get that framed.

Yeah, you got to get that framed in your office. I do. I got to get that framed. No, not about to get that framed in your office. I do I got to get that frame All right, well, Grogg this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. It's a rowback question RHO BACK dot com use promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q's as polo's hoodies joggers shorts with Rowback dot com most comfortable clothes in the world. We wear the joggers all the time the sweatshirts are great Rowback dot com promo code take 20% off all right So LA bowl December 16th Boise State UCLA. Are you going to I kind of want to see you do the gatorade bath on the winning coach? Can you can you do that for us?

I didn't even know that was a possibility so I'm I'm down to do that I mean if the team is willing to let me do that the players are willing to let me do that Then I'm down to do that. I mean, if the team is willing to let me do that, the players are willing to let me do that. And I'm down to get in on that action. Yeah. About it. All right, Kim, maybe get to Kelly. What? That's a good plan. Yeah. Yeah. Are you friends with Chip? I never really met Chip before, man. I faced, I faced offers a couple of times, but he said some great comments about me because I faced someone he was at the University of Oregon.

He was often to coordinator there and I went off that game when we played on myself more year for like 150 yards touchdown and like 15 14 catchers or so. So he remembers it to this day. He's had nothing but great things to say about myself and I've nothing but great things to say about him. He's had such a great successful year as well, but it'll be my first time meeting him. Yeah, he's good dude. He's good dude. Also our our booker who is big part of's good dude. He's good dude. Um, also, uh, our, uh, booker who is big part of our team, Kelly, uh, she's actually on the zoom right now. She just texted us and said ask him when he's going to propose. I would never ask you that.

But she wanted me to ask you that. All right. I like the way you did a big guy. She, she's literally on the zoom. It's a, it wasn't my question. Yeah, it's Camille's lovely. I love Camille and stuff. We got to be a possibility very soon I love it. Yeah, cuz you got to get the kid before the whole fame Yes, I gotta get that kid. I can't wait till you're you're gonna be the best dad ever. Oh my god That's a fact have you decided who who you want to induct you in the hall fam? Who gives the speech? Don't hit on Don't they

But he's not gonna do the he's not gonna induct me with the speech. I'm not sure yet I haven't thought about that. Yeah, man. That's gonna be a tough one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah It's gonna be it's gonna be a great moment. Well, Grok. We're always a fan Have fun with the LA Bull. I can't wait to watch you sing the national anthem You're the best and we got to get you here to Chicago and and get you running around and dunking on us All right next time I'm there. I'm gonna come stop in man. All right. Love it. Thanks so much, Grok Grok was brought to you by pizza hut pizza hut may not have invented pizza But they made it famous because nobody loves it like they do.

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So let's start there with just the NFL right now. It's week 13. Do you have a take you've been sitting on that we can maybe we can talk about a team that you think stinks or a player that you think is having a bad year? Let's get the people going. I don't know if particularly I have a hot take. It's like day by day, right?

So just the NFL is what it is. I think that we thought that the AFC was going to be the powerhouse, but it looks like the NFC is going to be the one that has the most compelling ill competition. You look at the Philadelphia Eagles and their lack of being able to stop the run being dominated by the 49ers.

Surprising that Shaq Griffin, Shaq Leonard decided to go over to their side instead of picking Dallas, have to watch and both teams play. You know, I'll be interested to see, you know, what happens as far as what the contract details are to see if, you know, Philadelphia gave them a extra year that maybe another team didn't give them. You know, I thought that was interesting.

I thought it was the battle where both teams are auditioning for him. And I thought if you look at the audition objectively, I think you would think that Dallas, you know, perform, you know, more evenly than or more dominating than the Philadelphia figures. I think that Philly may be a team that hasn't played well all year. And you know, this is the kind of the last swan song for them as Dallas is a team that's trending You look at Philadelphia as a team that's trying to win you know in this last window before they have to reboot it Find a different window. Yeah, you consider the fact that you know, Kelsey's

You know think about retirement you think about gramming we know that this is Cox last year as well So it's kind of like the last dance where you're trying to see if they can pull one out after playing bad and finding ways to win but they ran into a juggernaut and we all know that when healthy, staff, physical is probably one of the most complete teams in all the NFL. So a question about the run defense

because you did play in the NFL for a very long time and defensive mentality. Is it when it comes to stopping the run, Philadelphia has dudes. Is it a mentality thing? Like is it at this point in the season where you say, hey guys, we got to figure out a way like to come and nut up here and stop the run?

Or is it, hey, we just, we don't have maybe the linebackers that we need. We don't have the guys behind the front line to schematically be able to stop the run. I mean, to me, it is the communicators on the second level, right? You talk about, you know, in the world, RPO game, it's about the linebackers being able to understand. That's why Shaq may not be what he once was, but, you know, he's a guy that has played

at a high level. He's seen a lot of football understands, you know, formations, tendencies, downed distances, tips from linemen, pulling guards, guards sitting off the line of scrimmage, sitting heavy on their fingers. He can help them with that pre-snap recognition. The D-line can only do their part, but at some point they can scheme getting it lying back up to the second level and you saw them bludgeoned by San Francisco and that's something that they're going to have to address

because if you can't stop the running the playoffs, where possessions are shorter, where teens find ways to move the sticks, they scheme up. You don't have familiarity with a lot of these teams when you play them because they may be the first time or the second time that you play them, but you don't know them, no them because they're not in your division.

And you don't have that intel that you need. So you need a guy like Shaq Griffin that can kind of man the second level especially when you talk about an era where you have formations and you have schemes where teams don't go with regular personnel two tight ends you know it's three wide so you stop you stop in the run out of a light box to do that you need everybody to be a man and a half not just a man for man because you do that, you cancel out and you get to the second level. So you need, you need Wardad,

he says, no, sit on the train tracks. When the train is coming. So you know, Kelsey, guys like that, uncover guys, pulling into the second level. You have to understand how to, you know, stop scoop blocks, how to read the shoulders or the running backs. And it's a bit of a lost art.

You have some good linebackers, but you can always tell the team to don't really have high play at that position. You know, they get taken advantage of. I love that phrase man and a half. And Warden. Let me start calling my, I'm a man and a half part. Who are, who are your top, with that shirt, you have to be a man and a half.

I'm, I'm almost a man of three quarters right now. Who are your top, standard uniform? That's, that's, that's, that's, it is. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. Yeah, this is basically my day to day. Who are your top three men and a halfs in the NFL? Who? Well, when you talk about guys that always love Daven Thomson out there and Cleveland, right?

He's a throwback to the case he had in type of fat boys. You know what I mean, guys, that's going to hold the jump through, from getting to the linebackers. That's going to make sure he sits on the double teams. They'll allow his linebackers to flow backwards. Of course, you can go, you know, pointing Williams, you know, I think his stats

don't really show and indicate how dominant he is, taking on double teams and freeing up the linebackers, CJ Mosley and his brother behind him. But, you know, you also have to go with Dexter Sexy Dexie. You know, he plays at a high level. He's a throwback of a big guy. But you can pick anybody off for you know, you know, Jalen Carter. You can pick a lot of these war daddies on the other end. You know, that's kind of what it has to be. You know, you want to have a man for a man so you have that extra guy

to the whole. These are guys that play at high levels. Chris Jones does it a different way. He's not particularly sitting on him, but he's one gap penetrating. So you got guys that can keep guys off, but then you got the one gap penetrators like Aaron Donnell that gets penetration that forces the running back to cut back where it allows the lineback to stay square

and far back and understanding that he's re-getting the running backs reading the three technique. So you got to appreciate those type of guys, but I'm sure it's plenty that I'm leaving out, but it's a lot of guys playing at a high level. So, I'm gonna name a few. As a linebacker though, I feel like the linebacker position doesn't get talked about as much as it used to.

It used to always be, you got to have a dude that's your middle linebacker captain, the defense. He's the most feared person out there. Now more emphasis is put on, you know, the edge defenders. Some of that you can get to the quarterback. But in your opinion, who are the best, like the most fearsome middle linebackers in the game right now?

I mean, you still got, I'm thinking, I'm losing my thought of it, the guy out there and now San Francisco, CJ Mozi plays at a high level. He's super consistent. Red one. Yeah, Fred Warner. Red one, Smith, of course. Bobby Wagner still playing at extremely high level, still getting it done.

He's kind of a throwback because now you look at these, you know, linebackers nowadays are three, you know, two, two, 35, two, 40. He's a throwback to a 250, you know, plus sauce type of guy. Of course, I like LeBonte David, all those guys, out in Tampa. They've been one of the most 250, you know, plus sauce type of guy. Of course, I like Levante David, all those guys out in Tampa. They've been one of the most complete, you know, dynamic dudes I think in the game for a long time. Their ability not only to be live build, they're not live buildings on third down so they don't take one of them out. They leave both from out that they don't bring in a dime backer, you know,

because they trust them against tight ends, which is usually a Mitch match in today's game. So I can really appreciate those guys. And you figure out that you don't have a lineback. You only know about a lineback when you don't have one. Right. I mean, where would Buffalo be if they have Milano who was playing at an all-pro season? And he was probably, that defense was drastically better. He was killing them.

One of the guys that kind of pop up is the cat from Think it's a Logan or something like that for for Cincinnati, you know, I you know, I like the way that he man's the middle But you know, you think about where where Buffalo would be with Milano. I think they would definitely be a plus two You know, the wind column and it's still sitting in the driver's seat as far as being able to you know Not be on the outside looking in in there's division, there'd be a tighter race. Yeah, you're talking about Logan Wilson on the Bengals. One thing I like about you, Bart, is that you feel like, you know,

you played in the league for a long time and you've been in media for a long time, but you hold grudges, and I like that. I like players that hold grudges. So you hate the Patriots. How much fun is it? I don't really hate the Patriots. I hate Bill Bellicic.

Bill Bellicic, I guess. So how much fun has it been to watch this Patriots team be this bad this year? I mean, listen, I remember, you know, when the Patriots were playing the Atlanta Falcons, right? And I can remember trash talking to 12-year-old. And I told him, listen, take your victory lap now, that you have a team.

Of course, he wasn't from England, a Boston area, a Providence area. He was just a kid that's following the wave. The same difference, like when you look up and you see a bunch of Golden State warrior fans, you know they're from Gays, you know they're not real fans. They just jump on the wave, the bandwagon, the popular team, right?

But the same thing make you laugh, make you cry. So I just want to inform this 12 year old and it's come to fruition a lot earlier than I thought that when 12 retired, his life as a Patriot fans will be miserable. So like all the jerseys that you got, enjoy it now, right? I'm sure the same was being said, when the guarantee happened with the Jet fans

and Jet fans never knew what lives ahead of them Well, I think the same thing lies ahead of the Patriots right the Patriots are gonna go back They want in their window and they dominated with never see a organization dominate like that again Before the people that's not from there has no reason to be Patriot fans Just jumped on the way because Tom Brady was popular. He had Giselle their winning Super Bowl Now they're gonna live in the misery and now they're going to figure out what it's like to replace Jim Kelly. They're going to figure out what it's like to try and replace Damirino.

They're going to see what it's like to try and replace Joe Namos. That's why I love about football that is balance. The football guys always open the windows and close the windows. And the same thing, the same people that was ponderous chest, chest out like a peacock strutting their stuff. It's now going to realize that they got a life full of misery ahead of them, because that's pathetic over there.

And then they're going to walk away just like, Miami had to walk away from Dosh, Shula. And at some point, you know, you the, you the die of the hero or live long enough to see us up to come to villain. And pretty soon Bill Belichack is entering the Sith Lord type of realm where I think that fans

are gonna start to hate him. They realize that the Patriot Way was more about, you know, Tom Brady and it was him. And they realized what they have in the future because he ruined Mac Jones. And you're gonna trust him to pick another quarterback and develop another quarterback and make a defensive

coordinator that offense and coordinator and screw another kid up. You just set yourself up for another five years of mediocrity, right? And I'm not sitting here pondering my chest as a jet fan because you know, we haven't figured out either. I mean, you know, Zach Wilson won't be here. I'm sure they'll probably try and take a swing again, but even the blinds grow, finds a nut and we'll see if what team in this division is able to try and find the answer. For years, it was Buffalo in Miami. Seems like Miami has found their answer to us, found the way, maybe the Jiu-Jitsu.

He's found the way how to fall softly. Or maybe he's found out how to get rid of the ball. So quick that he can't get hit. But those two guys have their answers, their quarterback. We have maybe a temporary Abandoned on a gunshot wound and and Aaron Rogers, but I'm after that. You know, we don't we'll find ourselves right back where we've always found ourselves searching for a franchise Quarterback I like how that started like yeah, I don't hate the Patriots

I just hate Bill Bell check and then the the grudge comes out like I said I like that I like when players retire and they're in the media and they're not just gonna start like, you know, sucking everyone off. It's like I have grudges. I have people I hate. Well Bill was asked to me oh, something that had nothing to do with football. So like after my career.

So like listen, I'm an equal opportunity to asshole. You know what I'm saying? I'm a camera, anybody can get it. I don't care who the hell you are. So if you got smoke, we got smoke. So like listen, if I see him and he'm a camera anybody can get it. I don't care who the hell you are So if you got smoke we got smoke so like listen if I see him and he won't saw me you can get some I don't I don't discriminate age and screaming that nothing. Yeah, you said I don't rock. I don't rock with them I think the quote was you said if Bella check was on fire you wouldn't piss on them would you I'm not at all do you still wouldn't piss on them? No, I probably try and stump the fire out

One of these like Bart, I'm on fire. I'm sorry for everything I said. Can you please piss on me? I ain't gonna be able to do it. Okay. That wouldn't feel even a little bit good to just piss on Bill Belcher. No, I'll rather let him, Bart. One thing I also appreciate about you is that you have served

kind of as like a realistic point of view for Mike Greenberg. Because Greeny needs all these like emotional support animals around him when the jets start screwing something up. You tell it like it is to him. Can we get a status update on Greeny? Is he okay now? I mean, listen, he understands this is the fail season. We, you know, before yesterday started,

we were talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback was alone. You know, we're talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback was someone who we were talking about, how everybody that has a backup quarterback is sucking. And nobody's going to make it. And then Brownie does what he does last night. So we got to kind of hit the refresh button and say, maybe it is something to do with the play call and the discipline and the development because you know we saw backup come up yesterday to add you know two weeks ago never throwing a pass and NFL in the regular season game. Throw for 300 yesterday so you know shout out to you know Cincinnati because it looks like they still may find a way to sneak in now it depends on who's going to fall first. It's going to be Mr. Binsky has the backup that kind of ruins the Pittsburgh stiller season or will Brownie be able to continue to, to play at this level to, to find a way to sneak in.

Going to be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, the Jets are this whole Zach Wilson thing too. Like, I mean, do you, do you, where do you side on Zach Wilson saying he might not want to play because of injury risk? Because it does feel like it's over between Zach Wilson and the Jets. So why would he play or do you think that that's kind of a soft move? Well, if he goes with that philosophy, then I think he's going to get a black eye because listen, he's set up to be his art. The backup world is already saturated. And if you have improved that you can play, then as a backup, you don't have a lot of value.

Baker Mayfield was a backup. Sam Durham was a backup. They accomplished more as a quarterback than Zach Wilson. He's going to have to try and find a place. In the fact that you gave up on your troops or it's going to be perceived that you gave up on your troops, you had an opportunity to play football and you decided not to because it was in your best interest. You need to go out there and show that you can't play football and you can continue to be a professional.

Because that's the life of a backup. Back up gets played, he goes down, he may be submitted to the practice squad depending on what the numbers are. So if he doesn't do that and make that decision, it's going to, you know, could be detrimental to him as, you know, all these coaches talk. And if he had did everything right, you know, he had went out there play,

did everything he was supposed to do. And now all of a sudden, if he does this and it races all the good, you know, favorite that he got from Hanna and the press conference, right, we knew it was tough for him to be able to set the blame, most of the blame. Some was here, some was warned, some was just the fact that, you know, this offense wasn't built for him.

And if it doesn't have airing Rogers, and we've never seen a big successful with that thing, you hack a little Fendi by the out name, airing Rogers. Yeah. GM's love to have a guy's backup quarterback where they can say like, this guy's a pro. This guy's a professional.

And if you do something like saying, I don't really want to play for the rest of the year, I don't want to get hurt. I feel like a lot of GMs are going to look at that. I'd be like, we just want like a stable backup guy, a humble guy that can come in and keep his mouth shut to his job. And I feel like Zach Wilson's kind of taking himself out of that market a little bit. In addition to what you said, like never actually being that good in the games. Well, what about what about the fact that all the time is that the defense still had his back after he had bad performances, continued to go out there and support him

publicly, even though they were frustrated with some of his play. So really, that's the, those are the guys that you're telling you, I don't want to get hurt. Well, what they saying is, they didn't say, hey, I don't want to go out there because that can't play. We can't put points up. So I don't want to get hurt because I'm a free agent.

They went out there and tried to win and do their part. So if he doesn't do this part, I think it's going to be a black offer. That's fair. We'll see if Aaron Rogers words reportedly reaching out to him. But the fact that this report is out here, I think the damage is already done. So we've talked about this with the Jets this year. And you played on some defenses where the offense wasn't that great. How much pressure is it on a defense when you get on the field on Sunday and you know

that your offense is not going to score more than like 10, 14 points. Do you feel it game to game where you're like, we have to be perfect. Otherwise, we don't have a chance to win. I mean, we always had good kickers, so we knew that we can manufacture some scores and we knew that if we got turnovers, we really practiced on pitching a ball and getting in because we knew a far off and got it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no a perimeter. The guy who was closest to the intended receiver, make sure that somebody blocks the intended receiver so he can't tackle from behind. We got to our nearest side,

we got to the nearest sideline, guys piled back and guys went and looked for the athletes and we left the offense line until whoever's returning the ball. If you look at the air read touchdowns, or Ray Lewis touchdowns, the Wondlandery touchdowns, the Chad Williams touchdowns, they're all orchestrated and it looks it looked like a kickoff return. Yeah. That's because that's because we practiced it. We worked

on it. It can go all the way back to you know Ravens were one of the first teams that people can remember on Monday night football against Denver where Chris McCowell's and went back on a long field goal and took it back to the house. Like, nothing that we did was by happenstance. It was all premeditated and understood and worked out. Yeah, it was very, very fun to watch. So I wanna bring up something, maybe it might be a little source subject, the butt funnel.

Butt funnel, because I've always wondered about that game. I think it's the most overrated incident just because you give it a cool name. Don't mean that is very cool name. He also very good. He did run into the guys ass. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Okay. He ran into the back of his line and who was being pushed back by arguably one of the greatest deep tackles in the game. In Vince Willfort. So of course, he scrambling and the guy gets pushed back into a we've seen guys get tackled plenty of times by getting pushed back.

We saw the Jets get a safety by pushing a line and back and tackling the running back. It's happened so many times that you can't even name it, but because you put a name on it, like butt fumble, it makes me like, oh, it's cool and it's like it's something that's rare. Yeah, all the time. He's not the first guy to fumble because somebody pushed back the deep. But he ran into his butt. face kind of ran into the butt part That's the it's you're not you're not picking up on how funny the ass. Yeah, no, no, I get it But I don't know if you do get no, no, he ran into his butt. Yeah, it's a big ass

So of course if he runs to the back if you if you run into the back of somebody and they're bent over They're asses the farthest thing away. Yeah, it's still the best. Yeah. Okay, but I think it's one of the overrated things. They try and have the anniversary and stuff like that. It happens all the time. You heard Mark Sanchez talk about it in week one.

Oh, so guy runs until the guy and fumbles the ball. Oh, what a coinketing. But from your perspective, because I know that you don't hold back. And when you get to the locker room and you watch the replay for the first time, did anybody? I never saw the replay. You should watch it. It's very funny.

That's why I don't know how funny it's really funny. I've seen it since then. I know it's Brandon Moore, but when it happened, I never even, like, I just knew he fumbled. How did he fumble? He ran until he ran to the lineman. Like, the butt, you're missing the butt part. Yes. Still don't count it.

It's a big ass. It's a big ass. I mean, I play, I play with, I play with Hello D. Knight and Chris Jenkins. You know what I mean? Time I've seen guys get knocked down and fumbled because he threw people into it. I mean, I'm sure they asked for his part in that talk. It was, it was, it was common you know common practice you know for the for the defensive tackle that I played with. Yeah. You gotta run a zone

game to get pushed back talking with the ass. So no one made a joke about it to mark afterwards like I could imagine somebody like trying to take the air out of the situation making the first joke and mark just like staring on be like dude don't don't joke about that right now. I don't, I don't, I don't think anybody on the team ever like even really associated that he got tackled by asses on him when like it goes on the media. But I feel like I feel like the jets are one of those organizations where like, you know, people just look to crack jokes about and I don't understand like the

national hate, you know, why paint manning, you know, with his big ass forehead and looking like lurchin, looking like Franken hate, you know, why paid manning, you know, with his big ass forehead and then looking like Lurchin, looking like Frankenstein, you know, to self would ever have like a joke at a country, a country awards. When at that time, the organization that he played for was big, was a bigger joke, where what was going on with the Broncos early in the season,

and then when he made the joke about the Jetsuit, just beat the Philadelphia Eagles. So, but yet, you know, I don't know why paid manning hates the Jets so much, you can hear it whenever he comes on and he does his manning cast. Like, but yet, you know, I don't know why Paceman and H.J.J.T. so much, you can hear it whenever he comes on and he does his manning cast. Like, even when they were running, like they beat the Buffalo Bills,

but you wouldn't think that they were going to beat the Buffalo Bills based on how Paceman and Eli was talking about him. I have no idea. You know, he also gave him Adam Gase, which was a Manchurian candidate who, like, he was brought in here to ruin the organization. Make man and pay man and refuse to come here, right?

So that's another thing that he's done. So like I have no idea why he hates to judge so much and why he thinks like the judge. Like listen, I don't understand it, right? Because I came from organization that's well respected in the Baltimore Raven. So like all this, it just seems like people like to make the justice but of the joke. Like listen, I have to own up like people like to make the jest a butt of the joke.

Like listen, I have to own up to that. I have to be a part of that because, you know, I'm a part of that history. But when I played outside of the bud fund where you can't say any of the teams that I played during was a joke, I took that fell and everybody took that team very seriously. Whether we fell short or not, you know,

we had respectability. But you know, I don't get why everybody, you know, Jets met Nick's, like they're just easy punching bags. Not just for people like in the division, but I think people as a whole just like the clown them, and I never got it, but you know, you never understood it. You know, maybe it goes back to something, you know, far, far before I even start paying attention

to sports, but it's like those teams like get clowned. Like those seem to get clowned more than the lines. I'm a lion's fan, I'm from Detroit. The lions have been the worst organization in the history of sports, them and the Cleveland Browns, and they don't get the national hate. I think because people are envied, so the fact that it's a New York team, they think that New Yorkers are arrogant because they supposed to have the best of everything, but they haven't won any titles

to really suggest, you know, who they are, right? You know, if you title time, you would think Boston, right? You would think those teams are lost and- Filly, that have had more, you know, well, Filly had one of Super, and they were the last team who've been in the Bay and everyone in the Super Bowl. So, you know, the sixers are okay,

but they've been, you know, the process has been a failed experiment as well. Files, files. Filly's, yeah. I know, wait. Filly's didn't win anything. Yeah, no, you know, the process has been a failed experiment as well. Facts. Facts. So Philly's. Yeah. Yeah. No way Philly's didn't win anything. Yeah. No, you're right. Phil Luffy, you knew the it is, it is the Jets. It was Boston. Boston was title tile for a long time between the bronze and red socks and you know, the 2000s or the 2000s was basically by, based in Boston. Yeah. Um, one of our guys that we

love who we think is elite came back to the NFL this week, Joe Flacco. You played with him for a year, you played against him when you're on the jets. How, did you ever stop and be like, damn, he throws such a nice spiral? Because he really does. Yeah, I used to call him Frida and Fucco was his nickname for him.

My nickname for him. And, well, people don't know that he came in the league and he has a, he came in the league like Anthony Davis. He has a full grown unibrow. And so I used to call him Frida. That was my nickname for him. Of course, people know my nickname for Mark Sanchez was Nacho. But, you know, Flacco, that's when I stopped calling him when he threw a 15-yard out,

which is the hardest ball to throw. It's the farthest ball. And he threw it on point. I stopped calling him Foco. I kept, I kept he threw it on point. I stopped calling him a fucko. I kept a step called him freedom, but I stopped calling him a fucko. Yeah, I mean, he does have, I think the nicest spiral in the NFL. And that's something that he has one of the strongest arms in his football. Yeah. And Carson Palmer before he hurt the time he had to time a job. Same difference. Yeah. Yeah. I read a story that you got suspended one time

for eating an apple. Is that true? Yeah, you guys went deep into the archives, right? They call it Barks' Cots, Fearful Beginnings. This road doctor meant it. I mean, I had a defense coordinator that was an asshole. And he decided to focus on me eating an apple while we were getting our ass kicked.

And I was doing, man man him was the only one in there because he had benched me. And, you know, I, you try to smack the apple my hand and, you know, it's certain things that you can do to me, but being from Detroit to being built on respect, culture not, you know, we gonna challenge that authority when you stand over me as a grown-ass man at that point, you know, 19 years old.

And so I was ready for the smoke, right? So like, you know, he didn't want the smoke, he act like he wanted the smoke, but I ended up getting kicked off the team and that kind of hurt me because people thought didn't know who I was. They thought I was like a bad person. They didn't understand that I had committed to Michigan State

that I turned down the Scotts of the Michigan State. And that's a whole number story and within itself. But, you know, that guy tried to kiss my ass years later when he was a member of Morgan State. I'm trying to tell everybody that he had coached me because at that point I was a starter for the Ravens and he was trying to impress the staff in Morgan State by saying, I coached him.

And we had a receiver that delivered the message to me. So I delivered the message back. And he's trying to hold court with his guys, where people come from different places, they're trying to act like they big time. And he was like, oh, I told Bartry said hi. And he's like, oh, yeah, what do you say? He said, when I see him, he said when you see him, he's sitting in the streets, don't kick your ass.

He's about to out shit. And to this date, if I see Mike Biden in the streets, I'm a smacked to shit on him. Because he tried to take a dream from a kid, just trying to play hard and wasn't doing anything wrong. And I'm not the only guy he did it against, but you know, that, that led to some other stuff. Jerry Kill. Jerry Kill, all time football guy. I love Jerry Kill.

So Jerry Kill, when the Ravens came and people who had questions about my character, told the Baltimore Ravens who had only seen that cameed about my character told the Baltimore Ravens, who had only seen that came and scotted me, that if he died today, he would be honored if I raised his children. So that erased all doubts about my character who I've never even post-career have never heard my name in any controversy,

anything at all, right? I've always been clean, straight down the middle. I just don't take no shit. Yeah, I don't know. Jerry Kill, that's That's a big thing from Jerry kill because football almost killed him. He had seizures and he just loves football so much. He's like, I got to keep coach and football. Yeah, I talked to him all the time. He's the best. He's a football, he's a football lifer. Yeah, I don't think you have, I don't think you have grudges. I think you just remember facts. Yeah, that's what I think. I think you remember things that happen. And you know, forget them.

Well, you do that, you keep that energy for life. So like, you know, Bill, Mike Vaik, I don't care. I'm sorry. Peyton Manning, would you piss on Peyton Manning if he was on fire? Well, I don't mind Peyton, right? You know, I'm saying I just don't know the hate is one thing, but I don't, I don't just like Peyton Manning.

I love Peyton Manning. I think he's one of the funniest dudes ever. I think his personality belongs on the face of Tom Brady. Like, Tom Brady supposed to be the cool, funny, cool guy, right? But, you know, Tom is opposite and actually Peyton is the funniest guy. You know what I mean? The cool guy, the guy you want to hang out with.

Yeah. Like, his personality. Like, you know, who knew that he had this him and Eli had this type of talent, the dry star cast's a human, you know what I mean? They're like the football version of Will Ferrell. Yeah. Well, how many times I know you got to run in a second? How many times do people on a given day just yell, can't wait at you? I get all the time.

You know, it's kind of like, you know, Ike with the Ike shuffle, you know what I mean? I can remember saying Ike and Ike was like, God still coming to him, I can do the Ike shuffle. He like, man, I'm 40, man. I don't do the Ike shuckin' no more. But I don't mind the can't wait. I mean, especially around here, they haven't had much to replace it.

So, we hold on to it. I think Richard Sherman tried to do a similar interview later, but it didn't come off as authentic. And the punchlines wasn't flowing as well. But he tried his attempt. The reports are that he had did it already with the Spanish network and then he actually recreated. Oh no.

But I like Sherman, you know what I mean? I like he speaks his mind. And listen, I would like to think that because he saw mine that he felt great to express. And I would think that the reporters went over there because they were hoping knowing that man had similar personalities that he could be able to spit some hot fire. Now, you know what I mean? It's not quite the ether that I put out there as far as the bars. If you break down the bars, you realize that it was some, the can't waste a punchline with

the poetic justice to nosebleed and all that type of stuff was actually the hottest bars. It probably was ever spit in a post career rant. So I'll own that. That's great. All right, I know you got to run. This has been awesome, Bart. We appreciate it. You welcome back on anytime.

Also, how awesome was Jim Lender to football? A Jim Lender was great at football. I think Jim Lender being hurt really stopped us from being able to win the Super Bowl. The fact that he was out. If we had had him or Chris Jenkins just healthy and any of those NFC play-up, those NFC championships, with a one with Jim Leonard,

but if we had Chris Jenkins, it wouldn't even been close. Wow. My last last question is, how awesome is it being named Bart? That must have been pretty cool. And it's not following me. Well, actually, it's Bart Thalamy. My dad named Bart Thalamy. when it says... Bart Thalamy, I'm out. Well, actually, as Bart Thalamy, my dad named Bart Thalamy, my son's named Bart Thalamy, so it's a love song.

Yeah, let's just say, you know, one thing about Bart Thalamy is, you know, I get to the interview before they realize I'm black. Who's this Bart Thalamy, yeah? Bart is great in. And at that point, it's too late. Yeah.

If you go with all those 80s babies, Dei and Jay, and Devon Tade, Daub and all that shit, they did not those interviews. They don't even get to the building. So I'm all good. I did my research on you. I knew that you were African-American before we started this.

Yes. You didn't think so. I did. I knew. Who part? You didn't know if I was Wayne Brady Black or you didn't know if I was, I was just like, black, and I got your ass.

I'm not gonna comment on that, but that's fair. Yeah, Bart, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you coming on. We'd love to have you on again. And good luck with your radio show today. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Bart Scott was brought to you by Omaha Stakes.

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or sorry, PFT, Jake and I, do you guys want to go real quick? Because I think it's really Hank and Max. I can forfeit my speech. Yeah. I don't really have anything. I just got, I'm really tired today. It's been an exhausting week. And today we just worked pretty much non-stop. I slept like six hours last night. That's pretty, I had like seven hours, but I need my eight. You know that. So I'm basically running on like less than fumes right now.

Yeah. I can't wait to go home, just you know, probably take a long weekend, recuperate, rejuvenate my body. I'm just exhausted. Yeah, your body doesn't recover, you know, when you're... No, it takes a couple days. Max and Hank, do you guys have a fire fest for us? I'll let Max go.

I mean, he's like, he, you've never looked more like Hagrid. Yeah, now Max is in a worse state right now than I am. Max, so Max didn't sleep. Hanks up for five hours. False. How many hours was it, Max? I don't know. I'll tell the story, the 24 hour stream,

it was a lot of fun. Thank you, everyone, the tuned in. It was awesome. It was good vibes with the chat. This was at like four or five in the morning, me and Max were just loopy hours, having some laughs, messing around with the chat. They kept asking us to kiss, take our tops off,

and just asking all types of ridiculous stuff. And we had the timer, that was like 17 hours, 18 hours. And I was starting to get tired. It was four o'clock in the morning, and I had been up all day. I was like, I know if I don't sleep a little bit, I am going to want to die. By the time Big Hat and PFT come back,

they're gonna be awake. I'm gonna be tired and there's gonna be making us do stuff. I'm gonna be miserable. So I made the deal with the chat. If I kissed Max's gout toe, that I could sleep on the gout. If I do that, can I sleep? And they're like, yep, they, it's not out.

We made a deal knockout, whatever. It's diabetes. Not diabetes. So I kissed this toe fell asleep for like two hours, I think. And that, that made a huge difference. I woke up seven o'clock. We started doing karaoke. But by the end of the day, I saw a little bit of energy,

a little bit of momentum. Like you can go one day on a little bit of sleep. Yeah. Going a full day and a half on zero energy, a little bit of momentum. Like you can go one day on a little bit of sleep. Yeah. Going a full day and a half on zero sleep, which is what Max is doing, is what Max did. And as the day was going forward, I just washed his body, died in the last like four hours.

He just wasn't like a human being. You know, it's the light. He was just a body. The lights were on, nobody was home. Now Max, this would really be a horrific turn of events if for some reason you forgot to push the button. I'm gonna push a button. And you ended up with a two-year soul patch.

I wouldn't, I'm gonna push it. How are you gonna, what, what, what do you have in place right now to make sure the button's pushed? I'm just not gonna leave this place until it's up. Okay, so other people will be around you? Yeah. Do you have a spotter? I don't know. I think do you have a spotter? I Don't know I think you should have a spotter

Also like yeah, Max Hank you guys did an awesome job. It was incredible guys were great Memes is a fucking soul. Yes meme stayed up the entire time to helping to produce it Which we didn't ask him to do but memes is like I'm gonna do this. He was killing he did the shit out of it So Evan and Shane's having a big time just crushed it. So it was, but Max, man, like I, I walked away from the stream with a new found appreciation for Max. You were MVP. MVP. I call him, I call him Max Delante West because that dude's a motherfucker.

If we have an MVP, do we have to have a MVP? I don't, I guess you kind of have to. All right, so Max is the MVP. Uh huh. Who else was in the stream? Hank and I were in the stream. I think Hank was in there. Yeah, I don't mind.

Listen, listen, we'll go ahead. Sorry. Max was MVP. Yeah. And you guys did it. You did all 22 and a half hours. Yeah. Big stream.

Yeah. So when are we gonna do the 24 hour stream? I mean, you guys told us that we did it. I know, I know, big stream. Yeah, so when are we gonna do the 24 hour stream? I mean you guys told us I did say when you guys got out of us like I can't believe they got out of the left early because they they have to know I'm gonna bring it up. I think it's I know 24 hours 24 hours. They did 22 and a half So close. Well you guys gave us you guys gave us things to do. I the some of the and I think I did a great job. The people that I watched will will will will say I was complaint free so is Matt.

Yeah, it's just the time when we were we were doing picks and preview and I and PFT was doing his ads and then I pulled up the chat and everyone's calling me Hitler. That was yeah, there was no control. No, no one complained. No, get that happening. The chat was all I said. It wasn't me because the chat fucked with you guys a little bit, but in a funny way. Yeah. And they, you guys did accomplish, like they turned on me and Big Cat. They're like,

these guys are the ones that are, that are the puppet masters. Yeah, we came out of taping the show and in Max and Hank were like, you guys did a poll and we're like, no, we've been taping the show and like, fuck the chat got us. So the chat, the chat might be the MVP too, because they, they're very funny. The chat is always so fucking funny in those things. And also please stop calling him Hank Vic. We've moved on past that.

He did hit Blake. He did do a Marty McSorley and hit my dog in the head with a hockey stick, but that's okay. We've moved on. I apologize to Blake and a lot of people, again, I take full responsibility, I was trying to take all the ownership completely. There was a lot of people, not me,

that were saying, PFT let his dog go off a leash into a game that we were basically playing to the death. And if you scored a goal, then you won a massive, massive prize. And Blake's a prize again? Drumped 10 minutes of phone time. And Blake jumped in front of the ball. I did hit him and I did feel very bad

and I take full responsibility. So the people saying like that's kind of on the owner for putting his dog in that situation, I disagree with. I halfway agree. I think it's 50% on me, 50% on Hank. I'll take full ownership. Max, I wanna hear from you though, because you are running on more than fumes.

What's going on? What's going on? What's going on in the head right now? Not a lot going on in this head of mine. BMCs. BMCs was the thing that got brought up. It was BMCs. I don't know. That's between me and the demon hours of the chat.

What's BMCs? Tell us what BMCs means. What's BMC? Yes tell us what BM's memes what's BMCs? Big meaty clackers That's like his camel like a big yeah, there's a closer shot of his camel thought it was like dandruff You got some big ass nuts and he's like yeah my big friends used to come the big meaty clackers the big meaty crackers. Think about Max as he's got huge balls. The BMC. Now the whole teddy fucking thing makes sense.

Why you can't do it? You can't do it. It's just two to those crackers. BMC. Who's fucking who? Okay, so Max, you were... Max could definitely titty fuck somebody with his nuts.

Yeah, he's titty fucking his own dick. He just talks it down. He just draws nipples on each ball. And starts going up and down. That would hurt. Yeah, you don't like titty fucking because it's just looking at your own penis every day. All right, so Max, yeah, like are you?

You guys, you guys were troopers. 24 hours in that room was crazy Yeah, you start to just lose time and space what what point was it like where the fuck are we Mine it was probably one of the highlights was I Don't know what time it was obviously we were in a room with no windows And I did sleep for a little bit, but I woke up. I was delirious We played the game and then we just started doing karaoke. It was probably like 8 a.m 9 a.m

You guys came in to get karaoke will came in and like it was just one of those I was like kind of tired kind of got energy and just Started scream screaming singing Just went all in and that was like one of the and then I was watching the clip back I was like this is funny. I was like I think this was at 8 a.m. Yeah Yeah, it's pretty really first thing in the morning. We were just doing karaoke. Yeah, overnight, I know that we probably shouldn't have started at 9pm, but it was very funny leaving you guys where you guys were kind of angry about the situation, still had some pep, and then coming back in the morning, and it was like, we just came into two different

people years, we're just grizzled vets. Don't fuck with us. We've already reached the point in no return. When I left, Hank was very salty about putting together the IKEA furniture to the point where Hank in protest just took a hammer and started just beating the one like wooden piece with it. And you're like, I'm building, I'm building.

Are you happy? The facilities here aren't up to my code. And then the facilities were fucked. And in the morning when I woke up, the first thing that I saw was the picture of the shelf that Max built overnight. And it's the funniest fucking shelf I've ever seen. Like, you put all the pieces together, but they don't fit at all.

Yeah. I thought that I was walking out of that with the perfectly built dresser. And then once I, it was like, you built everything separately, and then once you put them together, that's like what made the final dresser, and I had each piece, and I was working on it for six hours. I started at 11 p.m.

finished it at five a.m. And it was like a moment, I like turned to memes, I was like, memes, I did it, man, I finally made the dresser. It's gonna happen, and then I finally made the dresser. It's gonna happen. And then I put all the cabinets into the thing and just immediately just started to cry.

Something like it was legitimately from a movie. Like when Jerry walked in and he looked at that dresser, like it was one of those laughs that like, I'll remember that laugh for him. Yeah, this is the cabinet. It looked like Homer Simpson's spice racking. And then, and then I was so mad you guys didn't give us chairs to build that was all my life.

Yeah, we were a big thing. We should have done that. Well, we actually were thinking practically we're like, when we did the meeting before, we're like, you know what, we could probably use like a dresser drawer here and maybe a TV stand. So there was practical use to it, just not in the moment. Yeah, you guys crushed it.

I thought that was very fun. I mean, we have some more bets coming up, but that one was a very fun one. That was fun, I would say my two. The two low lights sneaky didn't seem as bad, but the puzzle was brutal. Oh, you came in, I came in, Max had built half his puzzle

and Hank just looked at me and like snarled and he was like, did you fuck with my puzzle? I was like, dude, I didn't even fucking lie these. Because you guys reached a point where you thought everything we did was fucking. Well, the bag was open. Yeah, it was like what? I don't think we fucked you that bad.

No, but I was on High Alert. But really, the worst thing that we did that still is probably gonna be the thing that affects me the most for throughout the weekend Was playing mint knee hockey to start. Yeah, my knees fucking kill Like he was scratched up so funny though every time I stand up at hurts and like every time I'm moving like they're just they're all torn up Like back for showers gonna hurt really bad, too Yeah, Max in front of that goal was just so funny. Yeah, he looked like he had diapers on.

Oh, yeah, you were wearing the pants. So I was wearing the pants, and then I was also wearing shorts underneath because I was worried about, you know, climate control over the next 24 hours. B.M.C. Yeah, you had a moment where you're standing in front of the goal and the pants are so ridiculous

that there was no five hole. Zero five hole, yeah. It was great strategy by me. And then I took them off and went straight knee to, like the thinnest carpet of all time. It was basically needed some men. Like, we were so excited for Nihaki at first. And then by the end of it, we were like,

we were gonna do, we were gonna go first to 100. And then we were like, let's do first to seven. Smart. And first to seven took like 15 minutes. Yeah, took a while. Not even. Yeah. What about the paintings?

Oh, the paintings are right behind me. Yeah. I like that. I did a good job with these paintings. Max's paintings really nice. Look at that. We got the black mountain and then we got the same. That's pretty good.

Yeah, that's where Max in the middle of Bob Ross, he's like, look at these facilities Bob Ross has and then I just, like, yeah, we have shitty facilities. So these became the word of Bob Ross, he's like, look at these facilities Bob Ross has. And then I just, it's like, yeah, we have shitty facilities. So these became the word of the day. Yeah, great job though, guys. Also, I know the AWLs appreciate it because you guys were very, very entertaining for 24 hours.

Yeah, I mean, we had a lot of people watching the Millonite that I always close my mind because we were just loopiest fuck. I did sleep talk and yell at memes in myself. Yeah, that's so funny Would you say don't you fucking try it me? Yeah, like I'm unprompted I was completely say my wash the clip I was again No, I don't this wasn't even like half conscious. I just was like don't even fucking think about it me. Oh my god

Well, you guys crushed it. It was fun. Yeah, Jake you did a good job to Jake. Yeah, top everything Jake was a saver on the Madden because the Madden was lagging and he came in and announced it was good. And yeah, it was good time. We have another one coming up with the pancakes. So that will be, it won't be 24 hours, but it would probably will be eight to 10 considering. It'll be a while.

I want to say 24 pancakes. That's actually huge that Hank's going to win it because Hank eats so slow. Yeah, I want to see 24 pancakes. Yeah, it's actually huge that Hank's gonna win it because Hank eats so slow Yeah, and he can just mock us now Yeah, yeah, I would be pancake it would be probably longer than 24 Yeah, well no because it's one hour off every time you finish a pancake. Oh right, right? So I think you'd probably eat like four pancakes You're not a big eater. Oh, I got it Yeah, so it's like it will most likely whoever loses has to eat

24 pink or it doesn't have to eat 24 pancakes have to do 24 hours or pancakes. So realistically, it will probably be like a eight hour stream because you probably can't eat more than like 16 pancakes. I did take when I was doing the phone calls, I took my picks because it means like we need your picks. I was on the phone. It was like, give me a over, give me a spread. So my picks are just from some random dude that I was calling and I'm already accepted the loss and I started to practice my set and that's, I think the 24 hour stream

is gonna pale in comparison to how bad. No, I like your stand up. Your stand up was good. That's gonna be tough. The thing you did about Dave and how he takes more than one bite, that was good. What's the deal with that? What is the deal? No one ever talks about that, takes more than one bite, that was good. What's the deal with that? What is the deal?

No one ever talks about that. It's called one bite. Oh, five. That's gonna be great. And PFT's top. Yeah, he got top. I got top. I got top.

I'm kinda addicted to tasks now. I'm a tack guy. You can't get just one. I'm probably gonna get several more on this. I got on the, I switched it all back to. At the last second, I went left arm instead of right arm. It was like spur of the moment and then I'm just like right arm. I can do the swaggy pee right arm strictly for buckets. Yeah. I also Mitch the tack guy. So he comes in the studio after we're done

and he wants to like check out the studio. Take some pictures. He's an awesome dude. Check him out. Mitch does tats and I was like, Hey, you want to pick a lot of ball? He's like, sure, he's wearing a Brian Brancheter's, he number 32 on the lines. He's like, I'll take 32. Jake was in here as a witness. Jake ran the machine, he looked away. Mitch got 32.

Incredible. And so then we're like, well, I'm gonna bet on Mitch's score touchdown tonight. It's a signable. Mitch scored. Yeah. And then didn't win. Then didn't win.

Didn't throw a pick six though. Didn't throw a pick six. Never throw a pick six. Okay, so let a pick six. Never throw a pick six. Okay, so let's do it. Let's finish the show. Good job, Max and Hank. Proud of you boys. Numbers.

Eight. Thirty nine. Eighteen. Seventy one. Also from some Twirney. Random Stella Blue purchaser. Thirty nine. Thirty nine.

What's yours, Max? Twirney. Would you say, Max? Twirney? Okay. Shane 10. 77. Pug. Pug. Pug. I am Pug. The Pug chance was so good. 78! Ohhhhhhh! Ohhhhhhh! So close! 78! Love you guys!

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