Pardon My Take - Ryan Dempster, Army Coach Mike Viti, Ravens Frauds And MLB/NBA Playoffs

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

The Ravens lost to the Chiefs on MNF and Big Cat wants to call them frauds again. MLB playoffs and NBA Finals starting tomorrow (2:31 - 19:41). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Lightning winning the Stanley Cup and Adam Gase on the hot seat (19:41 - 35:05). WS Champion and 16 year MLB vet Ryan Dempster joins the show to talk to about the MLB playoffs, playing in front of no fans and who smashed Sammy's boombox. (35:05 - 76:48) Army fullback coach Mike Viti joins the show to accept football guy of the week award and talk about being tougher than all of us (79:07 - 94:11). We wrap up with guys on chicks and a sabermetrics.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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That won't jinx it. Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. He's throwing a P word. That won't jinx it. So, fullbacks coach of Army football, Mike Vidi. He won football guy of the week.

He's the guy who got head butted and stood his ground even though he was a little dazed. Man's man. Pretty much like everything he says just makes me motivated to be better than I am. I'm not going to do it. They just make, no, it just makes me feel like less of a man. He could get me to go to the gym. Once. Twice.

Yeah. Two times in a week. There was a smoothie bar afterwards. If he woke me up, like if he was standing over me in bed. If he head butted you in bed. Yes. If he dragged me to the gym. So, we have that.

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PFT, I don't want to do it. Wake up the guy from Green Day. PFT, I don't want to do it. What? I don't want to do it, but I want to do it. You want to say that the balls are over there. The Ravens are frauds! They're such frauds!

They're frauds! They're frauds, frauds, frauds! I don't think they're frauds. They're frauds. And the way that JA rule uses the term, they are frauds. They're frauds. False advertisers. False frauds.

Unless they need to beat a team when they're down 10 points or beat the Kansas City Chiefs before I take them for real, they panicked, they looked terrible on Monday Night Football. The stat was 18-0 with a 10-point lead, 0-5 with a 10-point deficit. They can't come from behind. They are FRAUDS frauds. I think that maybe they should spot the Washington football team 13.5 points to start the half and then they can come from behind. They can prove that they're able to do it.

Maybe that's what was happening. Maybe they were looking forward to a real competitor in Washington football next week and overlooking the Chiefs this week. But yeah, the Ravens are not built. They're not built to come from behind. They're false advertisers. Okay, all right. Here, here, I'm going to explain it in a way that is a little bit softer, okay?

They're not frauds in the fact that I don't think they're a bad team. I'm not saying they're a bad team. They're a very good team. A very good team. But kind of like Oregon back in the day with Chip Kelly when they would lose to like Stanford in November when the games got tougher. I still, I don't, until I see it, I don't trust that the Ravens offense can work when it gets in a hole or when it plays the Kansas City Chiefs.

So therefore they are a very good team. But guess what? If you're a Ravens fan, you should actually be happy I'm saying this because I'm not saying they're frauds. They're a bad team. I'm not saying they're frauds as Super Bowl like level, you know, that's what I'm holding them to. I'm holding that standard.

And at that standard, they fall short. You know what you need to do? You need to compare it to another fraud team in a different sport so that people can connect the dots and be like, oh yeah, that's right. He's correct about that point and then set them into thinking that maybe they're frauds. So you might go around of saying like, are the Baltimore Ravens the Houston Rockets of the NFL weird, yeah, Mickey. They're analytics.

Mickey Mouse ish. I okay. Let's have a real discussion, though. Do you not agree that and I think you're kind of starting to feel the same way even though I say it. I know I actually I'm here for the Houston Rockets comparison because when I when I put those two together in my head, it started to make sense to me because like by any objective measurement, the Baltimore Ravens are awesome.

They are really good. And you know what they're going to do? They're going to absolutely steamroll everybody and they're going to make me think that they can beat the Chiefs and then the playoffs. The Chiefs are going to be by 40. They shit pump all the bad teams. They again, like Oregon football, Houston Rockets teams that do something a little different, but when the when the chips are down and you need and again, this is Patrick Mahomes

talking about. It's OK to fall short against Patrick Mahomes, who's the best player on the planet who as an aside, Patrick Mahomes using. I love when a guy like Mahomes, who is the best player on the planet is still using the top 100 list as motivation. And it's like, but dude, we don't actually think that you're not like the best quarterback. Yeah, you have five hundred million dollars. You're the best quarterback.

You are very good. Like some stupid poll. Like I I I appreciate that you're using as motivation. But if you actually pulled people with a brain, they'd be like, oh, we want Patrick Mahomes. You've got to find stuff to get pissed off about, though, at that level. It's true. It's the Jimmy Butler thing, right? You've got to find things to make you mad. And then you go out and you play better.

And I think that he's I would bet that Patrick Mahomes is going to complete a pass to, well, obviously, wide receiver. He's got running back. He's got full back. He's got left tackle. He'll throw into the right tackle. He might work out a way to throw like have a guard eligible play. That underhand shovel pass was so fucking awesome.

And the working man's past. So all right, so back to the Ravens real quick. And again, you what's going to happen? I'm going to have a lot of Ravens fans be like, dude, the bears are frauds. I agree that they kind of are. I don't think the bears are like exceptional team. I'm that's different than me not apologizing. I won't apologize for three and oh, well, also thinking like, yeah,

this might not end so well, but I'm going to enjoy the fucking ride. And we have to define what is a fraud and what is a bum? Because there's a difference between being a fraud and being a bum when it comes to sports talk radio. When you're a fraud, it means that the expectations are there. And then you end up defaulting on that. You end up false advertising yourself. So I don't think that the bears, they're not making any promises to me right now.

No, my eyeball is looking at the bears. And I'm thinking, yeah, nine and seven. The bears are a roller coaster that you get on. And as you walk on it, you're watching someone walk off. That's like missing a limb and has a bloody nose. And you're like, this doesn't seem safe, but I'm going to do it anyway. You're going to action park when you go to the bears. You're like, I'm going to have a heart attack in the Tarzan pool.

I'm probably going to get knocked unconscious in the wave pool. Who knows what's going to happen on the rope swing. And I'm probably going to die in that circular too. Same analogy, the Ravens are the roller coaster to get on. It's shiny. It's beautiful. Now we sound like a coward. It's beautiful. It's shiny. It's state of the art.

And then it doesn't really go that fast. And then all of a sudden it just stops in the middle of it. And you're like, wait, what's going on? I thought this roller coaster was incredible. I thought it was the greatest new thing that we've ever seen. Can they figure it out? Sure. I just I have to see it before I believe it that Lamar Jackson as exceptional as he is and he is exceptional.

But that offense, when it's down and they have to throw the ball, I actually think, you know, what would make me take back the Ravens fraud statement is if they just committed to the run, even when they're down because that that first drive, they were going right down the field. I don't know why Harbaugh kicked a field goal. He should have just gone for it because he seems like the guy he's been pushing like, go for it, go for it, go for it. That set the tone like, all right, we're going to kick a field goal fourth and three.

I mean, he watched the blueprint. He watched the film of the playoffs last year. If you go up big on the chief, then they outscore. You can beat the chiefs with three. He didn't want to go up by 10 points on the chiefs because then he's fucked. Right. And then they and then, you know, they get in that hole and it just like, just keep running the ball. I don't know. Just keep running the ball because you can do it better than everyone else.

When the Ravens are running and they're running well, it's in. And yes, what's his name? Dropped a bunch of Mark Andrews drop passes that he shouldn't have dropped and a couple of things could have gone differently. But the chiefs have their number. Did you see the wristband that Lamar is rocking? How many plays he has on there? And the font is got to be, I mean, it's probably like four point font

that's on his wrist. It's insane. He's probably got like 50 or 60 plays that's on there. Like that's something you would get like a personal pizza party for in elementary school if you read the whole thing. I did. It's crazy. And like Harbaugh, to his credit, like he he tends to stick with what works, right? So he usually, you know, goes for and forth down. He does stick with the run more than most coaches would

because he knows that like at the end of the day, it's going to be a matchup problem. If you are running the read option, they can't stop it all the time. But then you start fighting against the clock. And that's when you make an enemy of the clock, then you've taken a tremendous weight off Andy Reed shoulders, because that's one less person that he has to do battle. He doesn't have to play the 12th man. Yes. All right. Let's let's look real quick, because I'm sure what's going to happen

is after I say the Ravens of the Frogs are going to rip off like 10 straight wins just like last year, but especially in a year where you only have one buy. That game became so important last night with only one buy. And now you have to play more games in the playoffs. They have, yeah, they're they're going to kill the Washington football team. They're going to kill the Bengals. They're going to kill the Eagles. So the next three weeks in three weeks time, I'm going to look like an idiot,

but I'll still stand by at this time and say that when they have to start playing the big boys and they have to get out of the hole and the Steelers are going to be a tough matchup this year, it's not going to look the same. Counterpoint, Big Cat Lamar Jackson said the chiefs are a kryptonite. So he's admitting it. So well, you know, he's saying that they're Superman. OK, the chiefs are there, which is kind of weird. Now, that's something that Patrick Mahomes can look at.

That'll be his motivation when they meet in the playoffs. It's like, wait, he thinks that they're Superman and that we're kryptonite. I'm I'm going to Superman that hoe. You you're Superman the way that Soulja Boy talks about. So I'm going to nut on your back and blanket on you. Yes. Lucas G Little, by the way, gave up the perfect game right after I said it. There you go. Whoops. Bush. I don't believe in that curse.

You don't talk about it. I bet the White Sox. So I would like I would like to have had him throw a perfect game. All right. So the Ravens, what do you think in those games? So again, Washington football team, Bengals, Eagles, they're going to score 140 points, 140 points, 140 points in those three games. They should they're going to pop off like 45 points a game.

Yes, they should beat the football team by 30 points. It's going to be a play back. They really should try to. They should try to go down in the first half. Why not just to prove it? Because guess what? You're going to I laid the gauntlet that if they come back from a 10 point deficit, I will remove the fraud. They this is the perfect time to do it.

Put in RG three. It's an RG three revenge game. Have him started out. He's going to try to do too much. He might die on FedEx field, given what we know about that surface and his injury history. That's that's almost worse than Jordan Reed playing on the sticky turf. So RG three goes in, throws three pick sixes

and then bring in Lamar in the second quarter and then boom, you still win by 30. And you get the fraud taken off. I absolutely Ravens fans who are very frustrated with me. Just know that I am a reasonable man. And if they come back from down 10, I will officially remove the fraud and start taking them seriously. I'd also like to point out that if alignment scores a touchdown, if the player is over 300 pounds, it should count as seven.

And then the extra point is one. That's just so cool. Agreed. But you can't go for two. Yes, you can't score nine. Correct. It's like a bonus point. Yes. I bet Andy Reed would probably throw it to his tackle. Like probably six times a game, if that were well, it would be great because then you would basically, you know, you'd get eight points if you can.

Although Bucker couldn't hit that extra point last night. That was an awesome play. Also, I saw you retreated as well. Such a tell by who scored Eric Fisher, Eric Fisher, when he went up and started using Patrick Mahomes towel. That was incredible. It was great. He just he sneaks over to him, grabs the towel, gets a little wipe off on his hands.

It's like, OK, that guy's going to be catching the ball. He's getting the ball thrown to him. So Monday Night Football was good, not great. I mean, everyone was kind of expecting like the best game. I think the Chiefs Rams game from a couple of years ago. It fucks us up forever, ruin our brains. Yeah, because we see the Chiefs or the Ravens or the Rams or the Seahawks in these Monday Night Football games and we're like, get ready for it.

It's going to be epic. And we don't we didn't realize at the time that was the best it will ever be. I think that this game was pretty good. It was. It didn't live up to that expectation. But you're right, our brains are grading it on a curve. And since it is debate night, which I'm sure was electric, we're taking this before the debates, I'm sure changed a lot of people's minds. By the way, if you're an undecided voter, you deserve to be pushed off a building.

If you don't know who you're going to vote for, do they exist? If you're undecided, you're actually just waiting for Rex Chapman to tell him to go out and vote. If you're an undecided voter, tweet at us and let us know because I'm so interested. And how you put on a hat in the morning without giving yourself a concussion. I don't think they're undecided voters. I think their voters that are deciding the undecided part is whether or not they'll vote. Right. Thankfully, if you go on Twitter,

you'll get enough people to tell you to vote that you probably decided to vote. Or are you or you have Ken Bone, everyone should forever be undecided until the second he walks into the voting booth. I'll be a hypocrite. Everyone should vote. Everyone vote. Go vote. But since it is debate night, we should we should get to the bottom of this. Is it E layer? It's a layer.

Our hell layer. No, it's E layer. A layer. A layer. He was leaving was really leaning on the E. It's a layer. No. A layer. Yes. E layer. Yes. Hell layer. A layer. A layer. And I think we'll get it right in weeks. Because remember, well, this is remember, Jake got this wrong.

Famously got this wrong and was very upset about it. But you got it wrong. I got it wrong. But if I prepped, I would have gone. But you didn't prep. You didn't prep. Emphasis on the capital E layer. So he did it correctly. And Al Michaels was saying, hell layer. And then Twitter was roasting him.

Yeah. So he's a little overcompensated. It went hardy. He's so good. It's so unfair that the chiefs were able to add him. It is. It is. Jerry Jones said that Jerry Jones, I love it because he can't stop talking about other people's players ever. Like he was talking about how he wished that he had a more mobile quarterback.

And then he went back. He was like, I wasn't that wasn't a sleigh against DAC. It's just that, you know, sometimes you see. There's a sleigh against Andy Dalton. Sometimes you see a cool toy and you want it. And he also said, like, man, I really wish I could have gotten a layer in early in the second round. It's like you just you just gave like an infinity dollars extension to Zikula.

Yes. But he just collect them all, get them all, get all offensive. Jerry Jones is going to play flag football on the defensive side, but he's going to have a pro bowl team on the offensive. I kind of appreciate that. Of course. All right. So we have baseball players started. We have Ryan Dempster on in a minute to talk about them. Any do we should we do our predictions? We have to do our predictions.

Yeah, Indians Dodgers. OK, I'm no playoff Kershaw. Playoff Kershaw. No fans. Playoff Kershaw. No fans. Cubs, White Sox. Yeah, Cubs, I'm going to go with the Cubs. I really like the Cubs is here. So Hank and I are rooting for the Cubs.

Appreciate that. Cubs, Astros, because I want to see everyone pissed off. OK, that would be nice. Yeah. And then I'm mad that I want I want no, I know what you're doing. No, no, I legitimately like I don't really care that much about the playoffs this year. I root for storyline. Cubs, Yankees. Yeah, Cubs against the ultimate edge stripes.

Yeah. Hey, Chicago, what do you say? I don't I don't I don't want the Yankee that. No, no. That would that would kill you. Way too many Yankees in the studio. The Lakers and the Yankees won the one titles within a month of each other being suffer. Oh, my God, that would be huge. Drac would be so excited.

Our dear friend, Troll Bollins, be a big day for him. All his teams. What if this is the year? What if like Duke basketball is going to win? Well, would it be perfect if it happened because this will never obviously have an NBA final at this time? So we have the Yankees and the Lakers within a month of each other. Yeah, same month winning titles.

I might put a front runner parlay down and go Yankees, Lakers. I'll go with the Cowboys, Alabama, Alabama football and Duke basketball this year. I like it. We're going to talk. I like it. I like it. So yeah, we have that. And then the NBA finals do start on Wednesday night. I'm very excited.

I think our boys were the number one heat podcast. Yep. This is. Sponos. We're going to get into. He called her all about the culture. He was that we're saying he culture. He calls not the heat. It's the humility. It's grounded. We're ready to go.

Jimmy Butler said that we are. We're not underdogs. Jimmy Butler, as first reported, said, we're a good team. They're a good team. Not going to say that we're better than anybody else, but I just don't think that we're underdogs. I don't. So Jimmy, much like Patrick Mahomes, needs somebody to be pissed off about.

I guess Jimmy Jimmy just hates Las Vegas. Yes. Yes. When everyone when someone comes off the bench, they like cheer and be like, tap each other up when we finish pockets. I'm going to be like, good job, guys. OK, the culture, the culture, this podcast is changing. Yeah, I like that.

Yeah. And when you fuck up a name like Clyde Edwards, a layer, good job, good effort. Yeah. Nice try, Jake. Exactly. It was those four years at Syracuse weren't a waste. Thank you. Right. Pretty cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Medium cool. I fucking love the heat. I fucking love the heat.

If the heat beat the Lakers in the finals, and now I can tell Hanks get amped up just hearing the possibility that the Lakers and LeBron might lose. It's not going to happen. It's not going to. It's probably if you're going to be. If you are listening to this in in Pennsylvania, I like I've reached my pinnacle of life of just creating grudge bets. But there is a bet now on the Barstool Sportsbook app

that just Lakers Alpha Dog. You can bet who has more points. Anthony Davis, LeBron James, no crew, team. No, crew, show didn't make the cut. We should do a Caruso hero matchup. Caruso, I saw prop the other day. It was over two threes for Caruso, and it was like plus six hundred. So, so mean, so mean.

He's gone back to being underrated, though. Yes. So this is when he plays well. I think we're going to get a lot of Kuzma, Kuz. That's the big if you're if you're a diehard Laker fan like myself, you got to be like Kuzma is about to come out of a shell. I want to see Dwight Howard just go off in these finals. I want to see Dwight go off and then they ask him what he's going to do afterwards, he's like, I might just stay in Orlando for a while.

Just go ride a lot of rides, let my snakes crawl. Oh, it is the perfect environment for Dwight Howard. Yes, it is. All right, let's get to our hot seat cool throne. Then we'll get to our interviews. Hot seat cool throne this week is brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer on the hot seat this week is free space in your fridge. Oh, they have something here.

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Order yours now at budlight.com slash delivery and get ready for the games. Hank. My hot seat, I have a couple. The first one that both basketball related. LaVar Ball is on the hot seat. Lamello basically has to convince teams to just drown him out and not listen to anything he says

because he's just trying to get drafted. And he literally had to say, my old man, he's my own man. He has his own opinions. I have mine. Like I said, I feel like I can play on any team. Anywhere's a great fit because LaVar Ball was talking shit about him going to the Warriors. So that's got to suck if you're like the number one prospect.

And the only reason you might not get drafted is because you're dead. They just got to put them on a boat. They just have to put them on a medium sized yacht, push them out to sea, no Wi-Fi, give them like an ample supply of whatever LaVar Ball is. I have to assume it's probably like combos and raw meat and maybe just like a bunch of beer or something like that.

Get them out with no cell phone service and just send them out at sea until it's an appropriate time where he can't ruin your career and bring it back. Yep. My other hot seat, Carl Anthony Towns, took a big time ricochet shot. Andrew Wiggins got interviewed and asked about how he feels about Jimmy Butler because, you know,

there was rumors like he was a locker room cancer and that Wiggins and Towns were the reason he left. And Wiggins basically said that it was all Carl Anthony Towns. He said, I feel like that was from certain people that couldn't handle certain situations. So everyone's just roasting Carl Anthony Towns for being soft and running Jimmy Butler out of town.

And then my cool throne is Jimmy Butler's profit margins because he said he's not going to give he players free coffee even if they won the championship. Right. He's a businessman. No disrespect to families. But, you know, money comes first. Yeah.

I mean, sorry. Go to Starbucks. You got to pay. There's no friends and family. No incentives, though. Like we were trying to incentivize our boys to win this championship like. No, it's about the culture.

The culture's hard work. Pay for what you pay. It's a pay to play league. You don't change what you're doing just because you're experiencing a little bit of success. All right. Imagine if they like if Jimmy Butler just Jimmy Butler would just show up with hot coffee after they win

and just start dousing everyone in it. The Gatorade bath. You guys finally get it. Yeah. The Gatorade bath is just like a giant flat white and then send everyone bills afterwards. Also kind of stupid that they're not letting like the they're not letting MLB players celebrate with beer and champagne

and stuff. Yeah. What is that? It's some bullshit. Oh, because of Corona. Some bullshit. That is some bullshit. That is some.

Wait, what does that have to do with Corona? Like drinking it or sharing it. Alcohol kills Corona. That's actually a fact. Yeah. That's a fact. Thank you, Billy. Is that a thing?

Yeah. All right. My hot seat is Adam Gase. Adam Gase. Oh, shit. That's mine too. Yeah. I mean, we probably all could have pulled that one out.

But Adam Gase and the hot seat, the Jets are calling around. Apparently, according to Billy's sheet, they've made calls to several big time agents trying to find their next coach. I actually don't think that anybody who would want to coach the Jets is somebody that you would want to coach the Jets if you're a Jets fan. I would not want to coach the Jets.

I'm trying to think who would. I'm taking my name. I mean, Shiana would do it. Shiana would do it. Shiana would do it. Might do it. Patricia? Yeah.

He'd do it. Yeah, he's probably going to be available in a little bit. Who else is going to get fired soon? Hugh Jackson would do it. He would definitely do it. He'd throw people under the bus right away. Jeff Fisher. Doc Rivers is a hot name going around.

Doc Rivers, super hot name. I'm just saying, Jeff Fisher. No, don't do that. Why? Because he's our friend. I don't want him to have to have the misery of the Jets. I think it's probably the worst job in America right now. Right.

He's coaching the New York Jets. Yes. I would do it. No, I was going to put the conditions on it. I wouldn't do it. I'm not doing it. I'm taking my name out of the hat. Unless I, if I could just do it, but not do it?

Just I'll do it under the condition that I get to coach from the booth. Oh, no, I know. I'm saying, like, I'll do it, but I'm not showing up to work. You'll be the name of the coach. I'll no show the job. Oh, Greg Williams would do it. We should get.

Greg Williams is probably engineering this collapse on his own. We should get some, like, Sopranos type character to just be the no show job of Jets head coach. I'll hang out in the parking lot with a giant mirror just reflecting it on myself tanning in the parking lot. Just let Gary V coach him. Yeah, what?

Yeah, Gary V might be able to turn that culture around. Why not? But it's going to be positive. If he loses this week. Social media guys, but also I'm on every app. By the way, fuck Vic Fangio. Fuck Vic Fangio. Because he is, well, first of all, he's a turkey.

He doesn't know how to use a clock. He's a coordinator. Secondly, he said that Blake Bortles isn't starting. But actually his explanation was pretty hilarious. He said Brett Rippin will start and Jeff Driscoll might play. That's that's a great way to just inspire your team is being like, this guy's the starter, but he's probably going to stink.

So Jeff Driscoll is going to be ready to go. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm going to watch Greg Williams. This is probably good for the Broncos, because Greg Williams doesn't know he doesn't have the budget to put a bounty on two quarterbacks. Right.

He doesn't know he's going to spread out his dollars. Who am I going to encourage? And also, if you put a bounty on Brett Rippin, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul because then Jeff Driscoll comes in and you're like, wow, I really wish that I hadn't hurt Brett Rippin. Right. I wish we just kept with this.

How about one other name to take the Jets job? Todd Bolls. His defense is playing well. Yeah. Great coach. I actually would love to see that happen. To just be like, Todd Bolls, our new head coach. But wait, wasn't he the Todd Bolls, our new head coach?

He screwed up. We admit it. Rex Ryan, our new head coach. Who is the last Jets head coach to have a winning record? Rex Ryan. Well, Todd Bolls might have been. No, Belichick. No, Rex Ryan.

Rex Ryan had an overall winning record. Oh, overall. I think it meant a season. Yeah, no, no, overall, over the tenure. I mean, he had some good teams. So he might have. Belichick didn't have a losing record. Belichick had.

He was 500. What do you mean? He didn't coach a game with the Jets. Correct. He right. Zero wins, zero losses. Can't divide by zero. Rex Ryan as a head coach of the New York football Jets.

I'm scrolling. Jeez, Rex Ryan. He's got a fucking huge Wikipedia. He was 46 and 50. Damn. Just missed. Just missed. Four and 12 in his last season really did him in.

Come on, Rex. Otherwise, he was right there. All right. Do you have a cool throne? My cool throne is JJ Watt loving his brothers the most on the Houston Texans, because Earl Thomas is not signing with the team. So JJ, do you see what I did there?

Yeah. Earl was virtually guaranteed to sign with the Houston Texans, and then it just was reported a second ago that he's not after his medical examination. So I don't know what they turned up there. But what's that, Billy? I heard you might go to the Eagles. Oh, because the City of Brotherhood loves.

That's a good joke, Billy. Well done. I think that my theory about Earl Thomas is that he just went to Texas to get closer to Dallas. Yes. Because Earl Thomas has wanted to play for the Cowboys ever since he got to the NFL. He's just going to show up.

He's going to show up. This is, you know what this is? It's like if you're in the same town as somebody that you want to meet up with, you post a lot on social media. And you're like, oh, here I am. I'm hanging out in Texas, in case Jerry Jones happens to notice that I'm in his same state. If he wants to give me a call, oh, sure, Jerry.

I'll drop by. Hey, Jerry, I'm just hanging out. I was in the neighborhood seven hours away. I don't know why they don't sign him, though. The Cowboys' defense is terrible. If he wants to play for him, just play for him for the minimum. Yeah, he should. Yeah.

All right, my hot seat was also Adam Gates. My cool throne is the Tampa Bay Lightning. Stanley Cup champion, Tampa Bay Lightning. Shout out third leg, Greg. You fucking dork. But more than anything, it worked. The Virginia model worked. Virginia basketball losing to UMBC then winning the title.

Tampa Bay Lightning getting swept by the blue jackets and issuing the lamest, saddest, are we getting divorced? Twitter message of all time last year, which I retweeted last night again, but it said this is last year before they went on to win a Stanley Cup. We don't have any words.

And we know you don't want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness, everything you're feeling. We get it. This isn't the ending we imagined. And certainly not the one we wanted. Thank you for being there the entire way. There's a deep drive to left by Castellanos.

Man of faith. Yeah, they won. They then took this. We have a fly in the studio. Billy, kill this fly. I got it. Kill the fucking fly. They took, oh, no, that's going to,

we're going to get everything. You don't spill everything. You don't chill out, Billy. They took that, which was the ultimate cuck move, apologizing for losing to a Stanley Cup champion. It's the most Canadian Stanley Cup victory in 25 years. South Florida. The team that is, sorry, ends up winning.

Yeah, North Florida. North Florida. But yeah, that was cool of them. I don't know what else to say about the Stanley Cup. The handshake line was nice. That was a real treat. The handshake line was nice. There were some good games in the Stanley Cup.

Oh, did you see the coach of the lightning? He was wearing a UVA hat. Wearing a UVA hat and refused to go do his press conference without his full coaching staff. So they all were just jammed up there at the press conference. That is what, you never see that in the NBA. No, absolutely not.

No. Hell no. You would never. Your team would never. Didn't Herb Dean do that? Yeah, I think so. I think he did at one point. I think when they were saying he was like taking

too much credit, he's like, well, all my assistants are going to do the press conferences too. Look at this. All right, Billy. My hot seat is Odell. He started to video game stream and he isn't in the hot seat yet, but as soon as he does anything,

you know, messed up on the field, everyone's going to be like, you should have been in your playbook and not playing video games. I feel like doing anything not football or anything. What is he streaming? Cod.

Nice. Cod, okay. Yeah, so. He's probably a beast. Probably. But I feel like he runs the wrong route. Everyone's just going to jump on him. Yeah.

I'd suck if everybody spammed his chat with just the shit emoji. That would suck. He wasn't ruining his chat. They were saying that. He was in the chat just doing that all day. He spent his entire night doing that. Is he any good?

He's all right. But you're not good. I'm terrible. Right, okay. He's probably as good as I am. Okay, so he's also terrible. Yeah. Is there a level in Call of Duty

where you can get on a boat? Can he commandeer a boat? No. That's probably why he stinks. Yeah. Yeah. And then your cool throne? Okay.

No, no, no, I have it. I have it. Why am I blanking on him? You're cool. I got one. Deon Waiters. Deon Waiters. He's guaranteed to get a ring

because he was on the heat earlier in the season. Nice. Okay, well, I have two more. Why am I? All right. No, no, no. Let's get to our interview with Ryan Dempster. The one on the left.

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Here's a fun saving metric. Every year, the athlete that's on the cover of Madden loses a game. It's actually a fact. Mark Cuban also cool throne for getting Delante West. That was a nice move. That was a very cool move. That was a very cool move.

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It is, I have a lot, you have a resume that I have to go through that is fantastic, but it's missing one thing. So, Ryan Dempster, 2013 World Series Champion, 16 year MLB veteran, two time all star, analyst for MLB Network and Marquis Sports Network, where he hosts his own late night show, talk show, Off the Mount with Ryan Dempster.

They didn't put in here only guy in Cubs history to have 50 wins and 50 saves. And also didn't put in here Hall of Famer, Canada, but Hall of Famer. North to the border. Yeah, fine. What's up with that? Why aren't we acknowledging

the Baseball Hall of Fame in Canada? I don't know. That's a good question. There's a lot of fine baseball players up there. I'm lucky to be in that group. That's for sure. That was a special moment. So you don't grow up thinking

you're gonna be in the Hall of Fame anywhere. Like maybe like your high school for something other than sports, but it was pretty wicked to be able to go into that Hall of Fame to have Fergie Jenkins give me the jacket too, like the greatest Canadian pitcher ever. So it was, yeah. Thanks, I appreciate that intro.

Yeah, would you say that you're a top three Canadian pitcher of all time? I would put myself in the top three just for statistics. Top, you know, yeah. I mean, Fergie's got everything. He's like wins, strikeouts, you know, complete games, the best hitting pitcher ever, innings pitched. Although he won't even sniff, my grand slam's given up.

So I got him way more on that. What's the Canadian version of Mount Rushmore? Mountie Rushmore, you have like four famous moose that you talk, I don't know. We don't really have anything. Yeah, I don't know if we just don't, we don't put our tax dollars to that. I don't know what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so we have Ryan on to talk little baseball playoffs. I'm gonna save a few Cubs specific questions for the end so that people aren't like, all you did is talk about the Cubs. Let's do a general questions first and then we want to maybe talk about each series.

In terms of no crowd, obviously everyone's used to it because of the regular season, but what do you think that has like, what impact does it have on guys in the post season when you need maybe that little extra juice? Who's it gonna hurt more? The pitchers or the batters? And how do you see that playing out,

playing in front of no one in these high, high intensity situations? Yeah, that's a good question. I think when I've watched it this year and I've been in Wrigley and seen home games and seen kind of not having the fans and what it does, I think it benefits the young pitcher who's never been on the stage before.

Just for the fact those guys like, I remember what that's like starting a first playoff game and then when you're a young guy with a little bit of experience and you're all of a sudden in a visiting ballpark and that place bounce and it gets intense, man. And you gotta try and learn to control those emotions. And now when you don't necessarily have that, I think that it can maybe be a little bit,

I don't know if easier is the right word, but maybe a little bit easier to control those emotions, to be able to hone it in and just focus on what you're doing. But I think we've seen it across the league all year. I think there's players, certain players in the league that they love that, right? They love the energy when there's a big base hit, it's like, I'm gonna take the next base

or I'm gonna make the next play and they feed off of that. I think you'll see certain players, I don't know who they are necessarily, but certain players do feed off that. I think certain ballparks doing unbelievable job. L.A.'s ballpark, man, watching those games on TV, it sounds like you're watching a normal Dodger game. Just the ability to dial that crowd noise up

at the right moment, the right time, and some people a little quieter. Heck, I was just watching the Twins game and they got fans in the stands. They got employees in the stands, but it's pretty cool to see them do that, but it's such a different feel, isn't it? It's gonna have a note.

What about you in particular? If you were just throwing in practice and then comparing that to a playoff game that had fans in the stands, could you see what your two-seamer creep up to like 91, 92 miles an hour just feeding off that adrenaline? Yeah, you know, yeah, I love that all the way up to 91, 92. Bring the gas, yeah.

Yeah, now I can really rear back and dial four-seamer in at 93. No, I found as I got experience and that when the crowd noise gets like that, when you get a young hitter in the box, that's where you can actually dial it back or not. You know, you can be like, use that dude's like making sawdust out of the bad handle

because he wants to hit so bad and then you're like, you know, Kyle Hendricks just pull the change up on him and, you know, twirl him into the ground. So, yeah, it's, there's definitely, I think you're still gonna have your dudes, everybody throws 100 nowadays, so they all know how to dial it up when they need you, but whether that's reaching the back pocket

for a little extra grip to make sure they can get that spin rate up or whatever it is. But yeah, I don't know what it would be like having no fans, it would be super weird. So you obviously, your career, you were known obviously as a really great clubhouse guy, you know, a glue guy. You were in the bullpen, you were starting pitcher,

in the bullpen, in the playoffs. Is it still loose or does it change completely and everyone's like, oh, fuck, I could be in in a second in a high leverage situation or do you guys try to act like it's kind of like the regular season and goof around? Because I'd imagine the bullpen's pretty fun innings like one through five.

Yeah, you're exactly right. Like during the regular seasons, like innings one through seven, you know, like even like one through eight, because nobody talks to the closer after the seventh anyways. But in the playoffs, it is, it's like innings one through four, maybe five, like unless you're just,

and if your crew's and it's good, but it just, it's dialed up, right? One game can change the complexity of a series. So you got to be so sharp and ready to go in and be mentally prepared once it happens. So it definitely is a little bit more high energy, a little bit more intense, a little bit more focused. You know, I can't be out there goofing around,

telling jokes to people in the front row like I used to in the fifth. I got to be ready to go in case you get called on. So yeah, it's, and you know, like being in the World Series in 2013 out of the pen, whoa, like, you know, you couldn't wait to get down there. You're like, how do I get down there? I don't know if the starter,

oh, what happens if the starter blows out on the first hitter, I got to be ready to go. So it was, it's definitely a tick, a tick off. Everything becomes amplified. You know, your pre-game warmups, your intensity around the dugout, everything's just sharp or crisp, right? I always liken it to, you play the regular season

in like, you know, 720p and then all of a sudden like high definition TV kicks in in the playoff times because it just becomes intense. Yeah, was there any manager that you had? Cause you played for, I guess a wide variety of personalities leading your teams. Was there a manager who didn't get you or that you had to like, you know,

adjust your personality or, I would imagine like, maybe Lupinella or Jim Leland. Like Leland to me seems like a no nonsense kind of guy, but would you have to find yourself like adjusting your jokes and personality around him? Yeah, well, like Leland was the one, cause he was my first manager in the big leagues. I had called up, they just won a World Series in 97

and then they dismantled the whole team and he had to deal with us going out there and losing six days a week. So it was a, you know, I think him getting me was more like, I needed to learn how to be a big leager and respect being a big leager, probably more so. I probably have a few coaches or managers to be like, yeah, Brian would have paid a little bit more attention

or folks a little bit more. He might be above 500 pitchers. So he was one, but he also put us in our place really quick. Like, so like, I got great Jim Leland stories. So now this man wins a World Series through the Florida Marlins. He's just, he's been such a great mentor to us. When we came up, we had all these rookies in 1998,

we lost, I think I was like, we were 54 and 108 or something like that, or 56 and 106, we were bad. So we're in Houston and we're losing 16 to four and Eric Ludwig tells a joke on the bench. And, you know, we all kind of laughed and Leland used to smoke heaters during the game. He'd talk him in his corner of his hand here so he couldn't see them.

He'd just, he just didn't need to blow smoke out. I want some blow smoke in a Bruce Fremming's face as he ran out to argue a straight three goal. Like, it was incredible. That was my favorite thing. So he's like puffing up. Yeah, Leland would like. Like at the end.

Yeah, you got it. Like if you were to tuck a cigarette, I don't have a pen or something. Yeah, no, you would try to hide it from the cameras. Yeah. But then he'd take a big hit out of it and then just exhale just this giant cloud. And you're like, I think he might be smoking.

Yeah, exactly. It was so awesome. It's like, who are you hiding it from? Why don't you just throw it? Let it hang out of your mouth, man. Like we all know. Right. So he's like, and if I'm sideways,

if you guys are on the bench and he's like looking at us and he's just like, and he throws it down and he goes down the tunnel. And I'm like, oh, boys, dude, we are in trouble, man. Like we're screwed right now. We're in big trouble. So we ended up losing the game 20 to four. And in the old Astrodome, they had these like French doors,

but they're like cafeteria style doors in the clubhouse. And he always wore spikes. I don't know, maybe in case we were so bad, he'd put himself in or whatever. So all of a sudden you hear this like, boom, the door breaks open, right? He's like, if I ever see another one of you, pitchers laugh, and when we're getting our ass kicked,

I'll have you out of here so fast your head will spin. You think I'm fooling around? You try me. Every one of you, you guys stink. You guys suck. You think you're big liggers, but you ain't a pimple on a big liggers. But with the exception of a few of you,

and you know who I'm talking about, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to the rest of you, A-ball, AA guys, coming up here, thinking you're big liggers, wearing your fancy suits, walking around, paying your clubhouse dues, eating your spread, driving your fancy car, thinking you're big liggers. You should be in double A. You stink. You're out there laughing.

We're getting our tails kicked. And all of a sudden he just stops and he just goes, guys, I'll lose with you. I'm below 162, no doubt, but not like that. Not like that. You're not gonna do that. You're not losing this league, right? So he leaves and he just goes off, right?

Now you know, because like I know he's talking to me. He's not talking to, you know, Cliff Floyd. He's not talking to Mark Kotze. He's talking out of the pictures. You're laughing, right? So I'm just like, oh man, he leaves and I go to get up, go to stand up and Jay Powell grabs me by the shoulder, relieved that we had his one championship team with him.

He goes, hey dude, he's coming back. He's coming back. And I'm like, what? Okay. So all of a sudden, and another thing, you know, and he just goes off again five times, right? But he had the best line ever. And I thought this was so great as he walks out

and comes back in the fifth time and he goes, I'm going to my office and I'm smoking a cigar and I'm having a whiskey. If I come back out here in this locker and there is anybody in here, I am calling the cops and having you arrested for person and major league baseball player. I'm getting the hell out of it.

That's such a great line. Oh, fuck. That's such a great line. What a legend. What an absolute legend. So I actually, it's crazy looking at your career. Was there ever a moment? So you, you were on the Marlins,

literally between World Series. They went in 97, they went in 03. You're there from 98 to 02. Then you go and now you're on the Cubs in 04 when they're five outs from the World Series year before. And it seems like things are going that right way. Everyone knows 07, 08 falls apart. Was there a moment where you're like,

am I just the jinx here? Like, is this me? Is it my fault? Cause I've been around teams that have been good, but I've never like, we've never actually done it. Yes, 100%. I was like, after the 08 season, when things just started to like,

you know, I had the playoff game, I get with the grand slam and I'm just like, oh man. Like, is this, is this for real? Like, you know, I get traded, me and Cliff get traded. They win the World Series in 03. And then, you know, that happens. And then all of a sudden we start and I'm like, man, maybe I, maybe I am the reason,

like they traded me they won. Come here, we can't win a playoff series. You know, you start to have some serious self doubt. You know, you do a lot of therapy. You talk to the right people. You try to eat better. You try to take care of yourself better. But, you know, it was like in 2013,

when, when John Farrell was like, hey, we're gonna stick you in the bullpen for the playoffs, you know, and I kind of just want to be like, dude, are you sure you want to put me on the roster? Like, I think, I think maybe if you just had me as like a guy that could like get the beer for the bus or, you know, I mean, that's pretty much what I did anyways the whole time. I mean, I only pitched one in in each series,

but it definitely gives you a lot of self doubt. No doubt about it. Yeah. So when you're coming in and you're facing like one batter, like that, and you know that that might be your job on any given night, is there a danger of over preparing and overthinking it and realizing, hey, I, you know, I've got, I've got maybe five or six pitches.

If I do my job correctly, I need to make sure that they're all perfectly planned out, perfectly placed. Yeah. You know what? You're right though. And to like, you can't, as a starting pitcher, you're like, you're mapping out a game plan and how you want to set a guy up in the first so that you can face them again in the sixth.

You'll be able to get them out as a reliever. It's like, I need two pitches right now and I'm getting loose. I need them both ready. I can't worry about my third pitch. It becomes great. And I don't got time to set anybody up. That's the one thing.

When you're relieving, you know, there's no setting up anything. It's kitchen sink, dump it all out there. However, I got to get these guys out. And you know, it's, it's intense. Like pitch, I pitched eight nothing game in the, in the game one of the World Series in 2013. And it was probably the most intense game

I'd ever been a part of, you know, pitching up the lead. I'm like, whoa. Take a deep breath. And then Matt Hall, they hit one off the turnpike. And I'm like, and then Johnny Gomes had the best line in the shower afterwards. He goes, Hey, Ryan, think about it though.

He finished the playoffs with a zero ERA. Nobody would have thought you would have pitched. So you got to give up one. That's a great, that's a great spin zone. You, you, you showed up in the box score. So yeah. So, so these playoffs, as weird as they are, we're big on, I, I'm a big believer in baseball.

And we could talk about baseball growing the sport, but a lot of baseball fans care about their team and maybe not the rest of the league. So we want to give our listeners of our show something that they can sound smart if they're talking to their friends about the playoffs. So if you want to go through the AL and the NL, some of this will be outdated.

We're going to run this tomorrow. There's games playing right now. But if you have like a tidbit or a guy to look out for, essentially giving everyone a cheat sheet of like, Oh, I can impress everyone by being like, Hey, look out for this guy. So let's start with, Oh, who's the one eight? Oh, the raise in the Jays, the raise in the Jays.

You can either give us a prediction or just something you're looking out for with the raise in the Jays. Okay. Raise in the Jays. I think Tyler Glassnaut might be the nastiest pitcher in the league. That's a great line. You could sit like, cause people would be like,

Hey, you see Garrett Coley, see Shane Bieber, see, you know, you Darvish like, no, Tyler Glassnaut, nastiest pitcher in the league. Like on two pitches too, like way above average fastball, way above average breaking ball. He throws a 93 mile an hour cutter that nobody can hit, you know, but he plays in Tampa. And I know he plays a lot of teams in the East.

So at least you get to see him every once in a while, playing the Yankees and Red Sox, but that dude is filled. I mean, that's just as dirty as it gets. And if he's on, I just have a tough time believing that the Jays can beat them, you know? Yeah, that's, that's what I go with in that series. I'll throw in an extra one. I mean, this one, most people know,

but if you wanted to sound smart, the Jays do have all the major leaguer sons. So they have BGO, Guerrero, and who's the last one? Oh, Bichette. Bichette. Duncan Bichette, Jr. And Travis Shaw. And Travis Shaw.

So just throw those guys out there and be like, Hey, you wouldn't believe it. All these guys. They got a nice, like a thick catcher too, right? Thick catcher, real thick catcher. I actually think he looks like he's one of, he looks like he's a backyard baseball player, like from the video game, like he's, he's like smushed.

I love that though. And I love the three game series. Listen, if we're in 2020 and we're not having 162, we're playing a 60 game season, three game series, all you gotta do is win two or three, anybody at any point during the year and win two or three off of anybody. So like it's, it's sweet to see the Jays in it.

First of all, with all these young guys, they're going to be, when they continue to get pitching, I thought them getting Ryu was huge because it just kind of puts a starter in there. Now if they can go sign another one or two and they develop one of these young guys like Nate Pearson or something, cool, there's a force to be reckoned with

cause they got the pedigree right there with all those dads teaching them how to play the game. Yeah. Would it be bittersweet as a Canadian if they won the World Series this year knowing that technically they're an American team this year? Yes. It wouldn't, it wouldn't be bittersweet.

It would just be sweet. Oh, okay. What about, let's see what other matches the White Sox and the A's are the two seven. The White Sox, obviously they cut. All right. Actually, this is a pointed question. The White Sox were hot, great season, a lot of young talent.

They've fallen off in the last couple of weeks. Now, do you think that was because they clenched and a little bit of foot off the gas or do you think there's like bigger issues that you got to be worried about? I'm a little concerned for them. Just for the fact that like, if you're for puts off the gas for making the wild card

and there's something wrong, like, you got to be trying to win your division. You want these three home games to have to travel all the way out west and play in Oakland, which is not an easy place to play in as a visiting player against a really good team in the A's who once again, just go out there

and do what nobody thinks they're going to do and continue to win, win, win. They got like one of the most exciting center fielders and Razor Ramon out there or as they like to call them, Lazor Ramon. No, I just think that I wanted to see the Chicago White Sox play the Cubs in the World Series. I think it would just be awesome

because that sums up 2020. Cubs, White Sox, World Series in Arlington with no fans. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. So I just, yeah, I'm a little worried. I watched all those games. I watched the three games against the Cubs. I called one of them, you know,

their offense was scuffling bad. Luis Roberts in a big hole. Tim Anderson didn't even look like himself. I mean, Abreu is still Abreu. He's hammering the baseball, but, and then on top of that, pitching after Lucas Geolito, I mean, I know Dallas Keigwell, he's a veteran.

I'm not worried about him. So in the three game series, when you got those two guys, but if they get to one of them, they could be in some trouble. What about the twins and the Astros? Is it, is it gonna be like a sense of relief for the Houston players knowing that, you know, with virtual certainty, we're not gonna get thrown at

because it's the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think that's probably a huge relief, especially the three game series. You can't take anything for granted, but yeah. And the twins are probably thankful that they went with plastic trash cans in the dugouts. So, you know, things have gone

probably better than expected for the twins. They win their division or not better than expected, but they're a good team. Losing Josh Donaldson, you know, hurts. That guy in your lineup to bring you a range is getting taters all over the place, but they mash at Grand Quay on the ropes in the first and they're really, really good.

They're stacked, they're better than people realize. And so are the Astros. That, you know, the tough part about it is, A, they're managed by Dusty Baker, like one of the man duties is just so awesome. And then B, they've been there before. And if they get any kind of good starting pitching, they're capable of beating anybody

just because offensively they, you know, they click all of a sudden at the end of the season. You notice the last week, some guys were starting to swing the bat a little better. George Springer got really hot. L2 Bay was swinging a good down the stretch. So they got to get past the twins. That's a tough first round matchup right there.

Okay. So what about the Yankees and Indians? I actually think the Indians are going to win the AL. Shane Bieber's nasty. Did he win? Is there a triple crown for, there should be a triple crown for pitchers. He won. Yeah. Yeah. So ERA wins.

He's a young award winner. That's a, that's a no-brainer and strikeout. So do you think, how do you see that one going, that series going and how many times do you think they're going to show us video of the midges? Because that's an all time moment that the Indians and Yankees, when they played in the playoffs, like however long ago that was.

And, and you know what? That's not going to happen this year unless all of a sudden it spikes up to 80 degrees. It's a little bit cooler night there in Cleveland. So, yeah, the Cleveland starting staff is, is good man. And they came to Chicago a couple of weeks back. They lost, they lost both games, but they're, they're, they're loaded.

Jose Ramirez firing right now, you know, kind of hit his way back into MVP contention. But at the end of the day, I mean, you see it every year, dude, the guys who, who get to the finals and they are the last four team stand, last two team standing, usually the last team standing, they have the best starting pitching

and the Cleveland Indians are loaded between the, they're so loaded that they get traded Trevor Bauer and Mike Levinger and like, we're good. Yeah. So we still, guys, like find teams out there that can do that. There's not many of them. So they're stacked.

They got a sneaky good bullpen. The dude thinking, losing his name right now, number 99, Ricky Vaughn, Kaman checker. You know what I'm talking about. He wears 99. He's got the, he's got the haircut like I'm in everything. Look at that, look at that guy's numbers and then watch him pitch.

So it was 98 with like a ridiculous, fosh type changeup. It's unreal, man. He's like punching out 16 per nine. And they're, they're good. They're really, really good. If they score runs, but that pitching staff, good pitching beats good hitting every time

and they're, they're loaded in the rotation. James Karen check. There it is. There it is. There we go. It's funny that you're blocking on him, dude. That guy's dirty and he goes full 99, Rick Vaughn style with the haircut and all.

What's the difference between being dirty and being nasty? Ooh. Nasty is just somebody's got good stuff. Dirty gets you out. What about filthy? That guy's nasty, but like sometimes doesn't know where he's going. Dirty, he knows where it's going and he's nasty.

And what about filthy? Filthy. That's that you're winning the Cy Young. Like you garbage. That's everything. They thrown it all together. I love remembering the Midge game. The Midge's game was, it was incredible.

You always remember where you were. I expected more wildlife games this year with nobody in the stands. It's where those natures healing type things. Like there are no fans out there. There might be like a pack of wolves or at least like a swarm of bees taken over a game. The Midge's game is special.

Like the small box squirrels. Yeah. The special part plays in my heart because I think it was the first time, and I might be dating myself, that I watched a sporting event in HDTV. Yeah. And I was like, holy shit.

Like this is real. Maybe we should go back. Yeah. These Midge's are in my living room. What the fuck is going on? All right. So let's switch the et al. The Dodgers and Brewers,

we don't even have to talk about that. That's a, come on. Brewers, thanks for coming out. Right? I'm, the only reason I say I'm leaning towards you and saying yes is because they lost Corbin Burns. And he's the kind of pure stuff that can match up against that lineup.

The Dodgers break. They just mash the baseball. So you need, you need to either locate incredibly well or you got to have overpowering stuff. And they got a couple of guys with some overpowering stuff, but I just find it hard to believe that they're going to fly out to LA and beat those guys. I just think the Dodgers are just like, you know,

they're drooling. There's waiting for everybody to come through there. It's the eighth year in a row. They won the division. They're like, now is our time. So yeah. Counterpoint though, playoff Kershaw. Or do you think that the lack of fans

is actually going to be a benefit to Clayton Kershaw? Yeah, I think that he's kind of, he's in the last few years kind of figuring out a way to kind of get by that a little bit. I think a lot of those numbers, if we'd like take them and split them down the middle, you know, the last four years are better than the four years before that.

Yeah. And he's nasty this year. Yeah. He did have a rough last time out, but he's really, really good this year. So Reds Braves, Reds are red hot. Braves are Atlanta sports. So we just assume that's going to end poorly.

Any thoughts on that? I think as long as the Braves don't have a 28 to three lead, they got a shot of winning that three, you know? Cool. It's been rough down there. Yes. I saw a thing the other day, it said top 10 lineups in baseball

and the Braves were not it. And I just was scratching my head. I felt like that person should have had their Twitter card taken away. Yes. It was like a legitimate source too. And I was just like, how are these guys, Freddie Freeman's going to win the MVP.

And if you statistically look at it, it might be the third best hitter on the team. That's crazy. That's kind of how Twitter works though. The wronger your opinions are, they give you that check. That's a great, by the way, that's a great line that we can throw out to people being like, did you know Freddie Freeman's going to win the MVP?

He might not even be the third best hitter on the team. Like that's a sound smart at the bar line. Yeah. I mean, you look at what Akunya's doing at the top and then as soon as, for some reason, he's just flown under the radar. I think I saw some, they hit more home runs in September than, who was it, hit 51 during the season?

Was it the Nationals? They hit like more home runs than one team hitting the whole year in one month. So they're firing on all cylinders. I know that the Reds got good pitching and they got Trevor Bauer is going to be, you know, he's going to be strutting it off the mound. So I'm actually like, is any series out there?

I'm just excited for that one because you got hot Reds team who Joey Vado had probably the quote of quotes. That was pretty awesome to watch him say that. What did he say? I can't say it on TV. Okay. All right. I'll look at it.

We're on a podcast though. So you can say here. They asked, you can say anything? You can say anything. He said something about them being here, but he used an explicit, I was bleeped out on PBS as I was watching it. Okay.

Okay. And he let loose on that. And I just think that they are, I think that they could cause some problems for people if they get by this round because you go back again to the Cleveland Indians who has really good starting pitching. This one's a Reds.

Right. So a quick sidebar. I don't know if you saw, but our boss Dave got into a Twitter back and forth with Amir Garrett. So I want your take on this. Amir Garrett, it showed him being like, he mouth, I'm a bad motherfucker.

And then he threw a slider. If you say that, you got to bring the fastball, right? I mean, it's kind of standard. It's like, you can't do that. It's like sitting there doing that, like, you know, on the hardest shot and the NHL skills challenge, like right before that,

and then flipping a quick little snapshot from the top. Right. You got to come full Charo. You got to go all the way back and then just let her rip. Yeah, you could say like- That's my opinion. But the dude also charged the entire Pittsburgh Pirates Bench without hesitation.

So I'm not going to sit here and challenge that guy. He's, he's unafraid of most situations and he's done a heck of a job. Right. If you say, I'm filthy, I'm a filthy motherfucker. Then you can throw the slider, right? Yes. Yes. Because then you're implementing bow.

Yeah. But if you drop like a nasty first, then you're going hater. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like I always loved like, you know, there's like a, there's like the times I would do that in spring training

where you just like purposely go, hey, here it comes. And then you throw a four-seam fastball as hard as you could right down the middle and watch the dude park it on a berm somewhere while somebody's drinking some daiquiri's out there. Yeah. I did that to Soto in spring training against the,

against Randy Wynn. I go, hey, hit this. And I throw a four-seamer and he, and he like takes it down the middle. And I go, you're not going to swing. And I throw another one and he hits it like 450. And after the inning, Soto goes, dude, what are you doing?

And I go, man, he's going to be looking for that pitch all year and I'm never going to throw that. That's true. I've seen Trevor Bauer do that. He's done the like, I'm giving you the fastball and then he actually throws the fastball afterwards. I respect that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think she did that in an all-star game, maybe the bonds or something like that. That's fun. That's, I know what you got. Why not? Let's find out what you got. Mono-o-mono. Come on. What about in San Diego, St. Louis?

Is if Fernando Taziz does a bat flip like he's capable of, do you think that all Cardinals fans will spontaneously just burst into flames and they'll all write letters to the editor? Like, like that's Aussies. You don't do that. Yeah. I think that the Padres are this unknown super force there.

That's like, I don't know if this is the year. I almost liken the Padres to the 15 Cubs. You know, like they're, I feel like they're a year away, another starting pitch. When you lose Clevenger to the bicep thing, LaMatte down, those two guys, do you need that stuff out there? St. Louis, man, they're St. Louis.

They somehow always find a way to just be competitive. So yeah, it'll be fun. I'll enjoy, you know, Taziz just chucking some bats and, you know, swinging 3-0 and, you know, Machado in the background just shaking his head because he's worried he's going to get drilled afterwards. And yeah, it's, that's a fun series. Those two teams, San Diego's fun, they're fun to watch.

Tons of fun. All right. The Cubs, I'm going to talk Cubs baseball real quick. I've been, I've been dying to do it because I need you to talk me off the ledge. You know the team very well. You know a lot of the guys. You obviously know David Ross very well.

You, you know, you call games. What the fuck with the offense? Like we're, tell me that it's going to be okay because I've, this feels like the same thing the last few years since they won the World Series where the offense can just disappear and it disappears all together and all at the same time and all at the worst time.

And we saw it down the stretch. I think they had like 13 homeruns. Maybe they had a couple more at the end of the month, but they were, they can't hit consistently. Give me the like, it's going to be okay talk. Yeah. I think the last series against the White Sox lets you know it's going to be okay. And I thought that all started with Chris Bryant

just dropping, I don't give a shit. Think about that. Think about just for a second, take that all in. There's Chris Bryant, right? America's boy, you know, second overall pick, you know Golden Spikes winner, rookie of the year, MVP, World Series champion doing everything right. You know, he's the Zac Efron doing the Express Model ads.

I mean, this guy's handsome. He answers every question perfectly. And he just got fed up and he's just like, I just don't give a shit, homer. I don't give a shit, homer. Like he just didn't care anymore. And I just think like it's set a tone, not just for him, but for everybody in that locker room really quickly.

And things can change on a dime, man. Like you can all of a sudden see it, where all of a sudden it's like, they know they're good. And then all of a sudden it just like, it was an adrenaline shot. And they played against a team that was trying to win the division. So it wasn't like some team that was out of it.

They were hitting plus velocity, no matter how hard guys were throwing. They're just hitting taters and Wilson's chucking bats to the moon and it just gave edge. And I love the fact that it gave edge. When you have a bunch of guys who just kind of become like known as, you know, they just go about their business. They're great teammates, they're great people in the city.

Everybody loves them. They just had a little bit of edge. It's almost like, you know, Rossi always play with edge. It's like, and then he had their back and then everybody had their back. And, you know, I think they're dangerous. They got great starting pitching. They got a really, really underrated bullpen

because nobody knows about them. And if those guys start swinging the bat, like they just did in this last weekend and continue that, people are in trouble, man, because when you got pedigree that done what they've done, if that matches up, man, they're people are in big trouble. Yeah, their bullpen has kind of fixed itself, which is nice because it was bad at the beginning of the year.

I agree with you on the Chris Bryant thing. I actually tweeted the minute I saw it. I was like, I'm like, I'm all the way back in. Cause if Chris Bryant is swearing, it takes a lot for that guy to swear. What do you think though about the magical chains? So the story goes that I think they're Mike Napoli's chains. He gave them to Rizzo.

Rizzo gave them to Chris Bryant and was like, trust me, these chains, this jewelry has power and he hit a grand slam with them on. Do you buy into that, those type of superstitions when it comes to baseball? Yes. Okay, good answer. I believe you can will things to happen. I believe you can tell your teammates things to happen.

You know, just like you can go the other way where you start to doubt yourself. When you start to believe in yourself, you know, I know it's like the Tony Robbins thing, right? Like if you believe it, you can achieve it. Or it was a bumper sticker. I'm not really sure where I saw that. But the fact is, is that when you,

when you have guys are in your corner and they tell you that, you know, it's like the old, hey, use my bad, it's got homers in it. Oh, it's got a homer in it. I'm gonna hit a homer. It's like, you know, that just, that steam rolls, man. When you're around that, it just steam rolls. I watched it in 2016 being around those guys

when they did that. I witnessed it firsthand in 2013 with the Red Sox when we did it. We talked that World Series into existence, you know? We fueled off the fans in Boston and the city that was reeling from what they were overcoming and the bombing. And we just like said, yeah, nobody's gonna beat us, you know?

We're rolling into the hotel in Baltimore at 3.30 in the morning and Padroia is yelling about show Walter, like good try. Show Walter is not gonna work with the night game, day game tomorrow. You can't get us. Like, it just, when you exude that within your tight group, yes, so when Tony two chains is handing his two chains

over to KB and he's saying, hey, just trust me on this. You tell me KB, he's not gonna trust Anthony. So that's his guy, you know? Automatically gives a positive thought in your head. And the more you get those positive thoughts, you know, the more good things happen. Then you reinforce it with a tater that like lands on the Eden's.

Come on, man. Like, it's good stuff. It's really, really good stuff. And then what you do is you give it to somebody else and you share the wealth. Somebody else needs it for a second here. Here, you go deep. You wear the chains, your turn.

I would love for them to just pass it off hitter to hitter and just be like in mid game. Right at home plate as you come across home plate, just take it off and put it on the other guy. Yes, yeah. And then once a guy strikes out on it, that guy has to wear it until he hits a home run. Now it's back in good luck.

Yes, yes. You never hand it off on a bad streak. It reminds me of that one postseason that the fight and necklaces all showed up all at once. And that worked, that worked. Players that wore those necklaces for some reason were all over my TV in the championship and in the World Series.

Were you around when those first came out? You remember the brooks? Yeah. Were you like, what the hell? How come everyone got these at the same time? Yeah, and then we didn't get them at first because I was playing with the Marlins. You know, like we got everything like,

we were like the minor league team, like the big league teams like filed all that in a box and we got it the following year. We were wearing puka shells instead because of Malari's like, here wear these. They're just like the fight necklaces. They weigh way more and they cut your neck every pitch you throw.

But hey, I threw a shout out with one of them on, so it was good. There you go. So I feel better about the Cubs after what you just said. Were you surprised at all the Hendricks' pitching game one and not you, Darvish? No, I think that, you know, given Kyle's track record, you know, I know he used, in my opinion,

he should be the Cy Young award winner this year. And he's pitched great. Kyle's pitches to tick below that. I mean, the guy threw a shout out on opening day. He pitched strong all the way through every time they needed him. He's pitched in game seven of the World Series. Started that. I love Kyle Schwabber's line today.

He said he's probably not going to smile. Probably won't frown either. He just is steady at it, man. It's like the epitome of keeping your heart rate where you need to be. So and maybe, you know, you have you right behind him. And David Ross is lucky, man. He's got two aces and those guys are,

those guys are really, really good. Yeah. I mean, I love Kyle Hendricks. I love, I'm going to try to do a prop bet on our sports book about Kyle Hendricks. Cause he, like, I don't know how many times he's done it, but it feels like every time he goes out there, he he'll be like eight innings, 95 pitches. And you're like, how the fuck is he doing this?

And he's just, he's incredible. All right. So I had a couple of last Cubs questions. One was, were you a pro or against Kerry Wood smashing Sammy Sosa's boom box? Kerry would smash Sammy Sosa's boom box. God. So you do know the tricks of this question. So Diddy, I'm still trying to figure out who smashed that boom box.

You know who smashed it. Come on. I did love when that boom box would play the same song over and over because that usually meant that Sammy was going deep. Like that's how the boom box works. So if Sammy hit a Homer, like in cooling the gang played before the game, cooling gang was on for a week. And usually Sammy went on a, you know, a real, a role there.

And we were celebrating good times. So every once in a while he'd put on some like shot A and it just kind of lulled us all to sleep. But that was okay. You know, it was the high energy stuff that we really appreciated. So Kerry did do smash, he did smash it, right? I don't, I don't, I'm totally unaware.

I'd have to speak to Kerry about that. I'll ask around and next time I'm on, I'll get back to you on that. How the hell is like the, how the hell do we not have definitive proof on who smashed it? Why are you guys not, why can't anyone say it? Here's the other one.

Who smashed the pipes in 2008 in Dodger Stadium? Yeah. Oh my God. That was a disaster. Yeah. All those, I was leaving the dugout and I needed a canoe to get back up to the clubhouse. Yeah. That was just an awful series. That's right.

I'm not going to sleep for a week now. That, that Mark DeRosa home run was, and then the Cubs never let again. I remember being so jacked up about that and being like, holy shit, this is awesome. And then that was the last time they had to leave. But was it, you can just say this one, like it was Jim Edmonds, right?

Like, cause he's more of a Cardinal than a Cubs. So he's the asshole who smashed the pipes. Pipes in Dodger Stadium. He made up there. I think it was Wendell Kim. I don't know, I'm not really sure. Wendell Kim. All right.

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The world series coming from the Nationals is going to be the Chicago Cubs. And coming from the American League is going to be the Oakland A's. Oh. And who's going to win? Yeah. And I'm going to go with the Cubs in six.

Okay. Is there an asterisk because of the season? Not if the Cubs win. Not if the Cubs win. Not if the Cubs win. If the Cubs win, then it's not a national. Other Marlins, I'll give it to the Marlins just so we can keep that storyline going

of every time the Marlins get into the playoffs, they win the world series. Mm-hmm. But that was the Florida Marlins, the Miami Marlins. It's different, right? So, good point. You don't have a statue.

You don't have to fish in a statue. Yes. Oh, I remember my last question. Is Len Cass for the coolest guy in the world? Dude, Len is so awesome, man. He is so great. Knows all about music, plays guitar, like just knows everything about baseball.

Smooth as could be announcing games. He just seems like he's like one of those guys you're like, okay, you're just cooler than me. You're not even trying. Just, and like so prepared and just like tease you up on stuff when you're up there working with him. And he's, you know, he's like, like pop trivia, you know, current event trivia, movies, music.

I mean, like you said, plays guitar. Like would totally be comfortable if somebody was like, hey dude, can you sit it in? Cause like, you know, we're missing our guitar player. And he'd be like, yeah, I got it. Let's go. That's like, he's just like, he's, I love Len Cass for death and he is just a blast, man.

All right, well, Ryan, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it. You have one last question. I have one last question. This is something I've been wondering. I've talked to a few ball players about this. They seem to gravitate towards the idea. Did it ever occur to you when you were pitching

that maybe if there's nobody on base and there were fewer than two strikes, you could just take your catcher and then put him like in between second and first base and then just throw a pitch to nobody and just being the umpire. But as long as it went across on plate, it was a strike. Dude, you're honest.

Did I just fix baseball, the mega shift? I mean, now we're taking the shift to another level right there. Yeah. You know, and if you plan some places, you could still do it with two strikes because if you're throwing a heater, I mean, odds are it's going to bounce back off the wall.

If you're good at fielding your position, your fleet of foot, why not? I'll go get it and throw you out. Yeah, plus you get a chance to bean Joe West. That's fun. That would be great. Only when Joe's umpiring, you do it. Just like, that's just as him or I won't even say

the other guy. No, no, Joe is Joe to my career had the best strikes on any umpire. Tim and Tim are the best strikes. Wow, say something nice about Joe West. All right, well, Ryan, thank you so much. Again, everyone can find Ryan on Dempster at Dempster 46, at Dempster 46, 46 on Instagram at Dempster 46 on Twitter,

marquee network, off the mound with Ryan Dempster, MLB network. He's everywhere. He's the hardest working man in baseball. Thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. Hey guys, anytime, man. Thank you guys for having me on.

I really appreciate it. That was fun. That was great, man. Thank you. That was great. So it was Kerry though, right? We're not recording anymore. I have no clue.

Yeah. I just, I just like came in the club awesomely, man. This thing's all broken. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was Kerry though. I'll dig around though and find out. You guys took a blood oath. Yeah.

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And now, ARMY's fullback coach, Mike Vidi. Ooh. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is football guy of the week. It is coach Mike Vidi from ARMY. He is assistant coach of ARMY. Also the fullbacks coach. And we'll talk about some other stuff,

but we gotta start with why you won football guy of the week. You got head butted by one of your players on the sideline, which was the ultimate football guy moved to head butt a coach who doesn't have a helmet on. Now, a little birdie told me that you weren't mad that you got head butted. You were mad that you looked dazed for a second,

which makes you even more of a football guy that you were just more pissed that you might've shown a moment of weakness. No doubt. Mike Johnson and I are kindred spirits. We're cut from the same mold. He's a blue collar, salt of the year, kid. He's one of our team captains.

I was a former team captain. We were starting to get things rolling on offense. It was a media time out and I was fired up and I misread the chest bump. It was probably more of my lack of athleticism showing up in that moment and took a good one. Did you have to go into the blue concussion tent afterwards or did you take a protocol?

Because it looked like you were standing at eight count there for a while. It was the first time I've been knocked out on my feet. I've been knocked out before. If I would have took one more step, Coach Munkin wasn't behind me on that one and I took another step out and down. I was like, I was more disappointed on number one

that it happened and I reacted very softly for about 10 seconds. And then number two, finding out afterwards that more than just the immediate army football huddle knew about it was a little bit straining. Oh, I see. Yeah, it was viral very fast. What was that like?

When did you realize that you had been captured on camera? You know, just checking in with friends and family after the game and your phone lit up. Are you OK? Having contacts from my mom, my wife, my sister. And then when your mom, sister, and wife are checking on you after a game, then you know it's probably went somewhere pretty fast.

Well, so you got a nice Shiner. We're looking at you right now. You have a nice Shiner. That's a nice looking black eye. I do, I think that it is a moment where you probably were like, man, I wish I was tougher. And I watched it and I was like, I would be out for weeks and weeks and weeks.

Like that would have been, we would have had to cancel the podcast. I would have been in a hospital bed and really milked it. So for the general population, I'd say you're the toughest guy for the weekend after that. Appreciate that. I think the worst four letter word, Coach Munkin says this all the time,

and I concur that you can be called in the English language is soft. Yeah, so all right. I mean, yeah, you obviously are not soft for many, many reasons. I also wanted to talk about your Legacy's Alive Foundation. So you did a tour in Afghanistan when you came back trying to figure out what the next step was after army.

You walked across the country. Is that right? You walked across the country for families that lost military members overseas. How long did it take you? And also, were you tired? I'm tired just thinking about it. Yes, so back in 2014, some advice.

If you're ever going to walk across America and you walk both coasts, you always get short of the coast. I actually walked from the entire West Coast and across the southern part of the United States and up the East Coast. And the reason for it really, it's not so much the journey, but the message to get the families of our fallen and the warriors who lost their lives

during the global war on terrorism. I wanted to walk one kilometer through their hometowns, meet their families, and introduce America to our nation's Gold Star families and honor the legacies of brave men and women who gave up absolutely everything for our freedoms and liberties. And as a combat veteran, the least we can do is find ways to service people.

When we get back to our normal, it's to continue to bring them forth in the present. And really, that's what that mission is about. That's what legacies alive is about. It's about honoring our nation's Gold Star families, because really, they're footing the bill for 15-plus years war. I agree with that. I think mothers, the fathers, the children.

And those are the people who we need to rally around. And that was the mission. It took 232 days. It was a very, very tiring event. And more mentally and emotionally, when you meet the families and they're sharing with you intimate details of how it's forever changed the course of their life, that's something

that it'll change you. And ultimately, I think that's a big reason why I'm back at West Point and coaching the guys I get to coaches. Football is our vehicle. Football is the greatest leadership laboratory we have. I believe to teach young men what services got to look like to prepare for an opponent who's preparing to defeat you, to keep their composure,

to exercise leadership agility, emotional awareness, and just the planning that goes into it, and then the execution. They get immediate feedback. They have to work not just by themselves, but amongst the team. And it's a neat thing to see it full circle. And that's what the journey was about, and not just for getting those men and women.

That was such a football guy quote. We're going to quote that. The football is like the greatest laboratory for teaching the youth. So wait, let me get this straight. You ran up the score on walking across the country. You walked down one coast, across the country, and up the other coast.

You ran up the score. I ran up the score because you couldn't do it a straight shot. L.A. to New York would not have got it done. I carried a flag with me and wrote the names on that flag of each person I was walking for that day. And the nearly 7,000 people on that flag just took a longer course. So that's why.

I agree that I think one of the most patriotic things you can do is take care of the people that have lost it all and take care of their families when they're not around to do that. So thank you for taking that upon yourself to bring awareness to that. I have to imagine that also finding people who have dealt with a significant loss like that gives you a perspective of like, I'm very lucky to still be here

and here are the things that are important that we can do to honor the people that are no longer lucky enough to be around. I couldn't agree more. The families are both our families. We have a family reunion every year at Army Navy. We have events all over the country. And they are our family. Whether it's them losing a son, a daughter, a husband, a wife,

a brother, a sister, that's what Legacies Alive is about. It's those social settings that they no longer have. And really, when you're in the military and you lose someone that you've been around the military for 15, 20 years, your life, your identity is almost taken from you when you lose your service member. And the military is a huge family. It's a brotherhood, it's a sisterhood.

But we always, it's a community as well. And that's what we try to provide as a social network and a community for our Gold Star families. I think that's great. But just from like a logistical standpoint, my brain wanders to the idea of like, OK, I'm picturing myself on the open road walking all day. What was the bathroom situation like?

Inside of the road, behind a tree, anywhere you can find it. There's not a lot of rest stops or anything like that in the American Southwest and no big deal. I mean, there's nothing more alpha than pissing outdoors. So you just basically did that for 200 plus days. So that's the dream. Yeah, that is the dream. So to bring it back to football real quick, you played an army,

you coached a full-backsed army. We were talking briefly before we started. Is there any better feeling in the world when the triple option works and you know there's nothing the opponent can do to stop it? It's a reason why this offense is still the test of time, right? And it's poetry and motion when you watch it. But it's one of the most violent offenses.

You talk to a defense after they've played it and they can't figure it out or they don't know what's going on. It's a very aggressive offense. It fits the type of players that we want in this program. Tough guys, humble guys, intelligent guys, guys that don't care if they get the ball 30 times or once. And that's what it's about. I don't think there's a greater offense on the face of the planet.

And you can see it kind of coming back, you know, watch what the radians are doing. Yeah. There's a scheme in it and it's just coming from the gun and it looks a little bit more sexier and it's just window dressing. So when it comes down to it, it's controlling the line of scrimmage. It's making the right reads. It's working in harmony.

It's working as a team. And that's why I love it. Have you ever thought, has a coach ever thought about putting in like an air raid package and fucking up the opponent? Because I've always thought that army, you spend so much energy getting ready for the triple option. If you guys came out, went five wide and was like, yeah, we're just not running the triple option today.

I think our mind. I think our fan base would revolt. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a fan base that you want to entice to revolt either. No doubt. No doubt. So I think it's a culture thing too. I mean, it's like it's a scheme. The scheme's got to fit the school, the culture of the school and what,

you know, how you win. I think there's there's a formula at every school and there's nothing wrong with with what we got and how we do it. And I don't think we'd ever change your experiment with anything else. When you guys call pass play, is there a part of you that just kind of like cringes up real quick and you're like, no, what? We should go out. Come on. No doubt you throw the ball, right?

Three things can happen and two of them are bad. You can pass an interception or, you know, like so why? It's that simple. It is. It is. Do you think that you have the most masculine job title in America? Fullbacks coach at army? Yeah, coach America's backs. I mean, I call the war stable war horses and absolutely show me show me otherwise. I mean, these guys are, you know, broad shoulders, square job,

clenched fists, guys who are getting after, you know, playing FPS level football for four years and then they're going to go fight and win our nation's wars. Yeah, yeah, we've got we do an annual award here called the Lomand Trophy and Slocum was on he was on the shortlist last year. So we look across the country. We try to identify the best fullbacks in college football. Do you have any that you think that maybe we should be keeping our eyes on? That's probably bad for you.

You just obviously, you know, got a got a helmet to your orbital bone. But like, who are you looking at when you think of the nation's top fullbacks right now? All four of ours. You know, we have just the, you know, most guys, they look at the fullback position. It's a unit for us. We rotate four guys. The first 12 plays of our game on Saturday, we played five fullbacks. You know, it's it's not just, you know, we got Santa McCoy.

We got Cade Bernard. We got Anthony Atkinson. Kobe, you can all four of those guys are going to get carries run play. You know, it's just what it is. It's a unit in our program. It's a unit. We don't call it a position group. It's a unit and, you know, you look back all the way to 16. We really really started creating a unit that's where we're better when we're

playing three or four of those guys. And each of those guys have a different skill set and we pride ourselves on it. It was slumka last year. Yeah, yeah, slumka slumka. Yeah. So I had one last question. We are with our football guy the week, Coach Vidi from Army. So obviously Army Navy, we we've been to a few of the games the last few years. It is a bucket list game.

If you're a sports fan listening right now, it is such an experience. You just have to try to get to it to at one point in your life. But I know there is bad blood between Army and Navy. Now, do you guys, though, like in the back of your head, do you root for Navy when they're not playing Army? Or is it just always we want Navy to lose? Hmm. That's a good question, though, because they're military, then Navy's playing BYU.

Do you listen? I respect. I respect the fact that Navy does much of the same things we do after, you know, for those four years, it's a different. It's a different story. OK, OK. There's guys that has served in the Marines, guys who have walked the walk and done the damn thing. And I will. Those are some of the finest men and women I've ever could ever tell you

about guys that I just have ultra respect for. These four years, though, we're never on the same team. OK. It's just it's just that simple. And we're competing for the same thing. And, you know, I think there's a mutual understanding. You know, respect is there, but there's a mutual understanding of what it's about over these four years. So but afterwards and after the service side is complete.

I think that's, you know, everybody wants to tell the very nice, warm and fuzzy story that, you know, they're on the same. We're not we're not until it's over. Like that's until the service side is done, too. You know, like that that's to me. After you play army football, after you serve your country, that's when you become an army West Point football player until then. You know what I mean?

You're you're standing on the shoulders of giants, right? So I think after that walk is complete, metaphorically, for each of each of those schools through through four years of playing division one football at a tier one institution until your service side is done. Then you can look each other in the eye and and kind of, you know, you know, bow your head and and have a mutual understanding. But not yet. OK, that's a perfect answer. What about Air Force?

I feel like Air Force gets left out of this conversation a lot. Do you just kind of? You should. I love it. I mean, let's call it what it is. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Oh, man. Well, Coach Feedy, thank you so much.

We appreciate it. You are football guy of the week. We'll do we do an end of the year award. So I'd say that you're probably in the running here already for that. Maybe we'll have to have everyone show up and and wrestle and then you can win it that way. But we appreciate your time. And I mean, again, the fact that you took a helmet to the face and you're like the worst part about it was that you showed 10 seconds of weakness.

You're a boss. Thanks, guys. I appreciate its honor to be on your show. And thanks. Thanks for the award. All right. Thank you. Thanks, man. Have a good one. That interview was brought to you by Roman Swipes. Most guys have tried ways to last longer in bed,

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That's good speed math on your part. But they don't know if they're going to play this weekend. They're not allowing the facility. Yeah. I think the Vikings aren't allowing the facility. They might play Monday night. They might play Tuesday night. Please credit Pat McAfee for the huge breaking news. Yes.

That he said that he knew before everyone, but didn't say anything. So credit him. Yep. But yeah, this is we knew this was going to happen, right? Yes. I I was saying if you don't have a bubble, it's going to happen. Well, I was saying and tell me what you think about this. I I guarantee that there has been a NFL player that has played a game this year with coronavirus. And it might be on the Titans. Right.

But like they I think the NFL's plan was let's just keep it all like hush hush until a team has a lot. And unless there's an outbreak. Right. To go three weeks with zero positive tests. And that's insane. And I'm not a testing expert, but I'm pretty sure that you can test like the day of a game and you can then contract the disease or you can start like becoming contagious for it later on that day

after you've tested negative for it. So it was going to happen at some point. I just I think that the Titans should probably refund everybody that bet on the Vikings money line last weekend. If they did have a player that played with the coronavirus, I think it's the least that they can do absolutely is just help help people out. But now the biggest tragedy is Mike Zimmer is not allowed to go to the football facility this week.

And I don't I don't know what he's going to do. Yeah. He's probably I would imagine Mike Zimmer just goes out into his garage and just punches like a cement wall. Yeah. I imagine that Mike Zimmer just he'll go. He'll find a nearby high school football field. Yeah. And he'll just go like sit on the 50 yard line feeding the ducks. Right. Just see. Yeah. Just what with a whistle just blowing his whistle at the ducks and crying.

He's good. I mean, then we also do you want to do the save your metrics real quick? And then we'll do guys on chicks. Yes. The safer metrics was crazy. So Hank sent this to us. It was that because the what was it? Tell it to us. Hank, I'm pulling it up, but it won't pull up. Rhondo and Jared Dudley were Shaq's teammates. So that basically ensures that.

So was LeBron. Mm hmm. So that's what I thought that we were talking about was well, I guess him too. It basically insured it ensures that Shaq has had a teammate that's played in the NBA finals dating back 38 years. Yeah. And 1984. Since you don't, it's has him is never going to retire. That's going to extend for another 10 years. That's crazy. So 1984.

So Shaq, yeah, we'd have to go through like all the rosters and see who's going to carry this on. I guess LeBron. LeBron for right now. He's he's the Kevin Bacon of NBA finals is connected in some way to everybody. LeBron would be one. Yeah, I think it's like LeBron and you don't us. Yeah. Who did it last year for him? That's a question.

Who last year? I don't know. I'd like to see a list. Someone give me a list. All right, we'll we'll figure that out. We'll get more stats. Does it count the national team? I don't think so.

I don't think so. Iggy, maybe. I'll think about that. I wish we had a stats guy or something. Hey, guys, just watching baseball. Hi, guys, I'm dating. Hey, guys, guys, in the first four words. Hi, guys, a guy I'm dating mentioned having children

and getting married on our second date. I was a little weirded out, but ultimately let it go, thinking he just wants to get married and have kids someday and wants that to be clear. Well, now that it's been a week and he's constantly talking about our children and marriage, I really like him, but this is freaking me out. I would rather have a demon snatch a fetus from my womb

than have a child in the next few years. Is this something guys sometimes do because they think a girl wants to hear about marriage and kids? Or should I be concerned? This man is going to poke a hole in the condom. Help, what should I do? You should tell him that you're really into babies, too. But you want a guy.

You want to you want to have it like that movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Junior. Yes, that you want the man to take a big responsibility. So you want him to get pregnant. I like that. So he wait, what do you say right away? He was like, I want to get married second second date. That's kind of a baller move.

Heart wants what the heart wants. Let it happen. Or you can just be like, well, that sucks, because I'm just really into blowjobs and nothing else. Right. And then see what he says to that. That works, too. It's a great way to drive a guy away. Maybe Jonas Jerebko.

I was thinking CJ Miles, Danny Green, Danny Green. There we go. Danny Green. Hey, Big Cat and PFT. We were the first guys on Chick Question was I was not listening whatsoever. I was trying to fucking find this shack teammate. Serious question that chicks need an answer to.

Why won't my boyfriend? Let me touch his gooch. Mm hmm. I don't know. It's very ticklish. You can't touch his gooch. It's a no fly zone. It's also probably smells bad. It's also slippery.

My gooch smells very bad. You never know what's down there either. Right. You're just saving stuff. You're an inch away from a dark place. Mm hmm. Death Valley. Dancing on the fault line.

It's football season. The gooches are no fly zone during football season. Sup boys, especially Bubby in belly football. I've recently gotten an IUD and started letting my boyfriend finish inside me last night when he did. That's so hot. He's I thought I thought she was talking about like a roadside bomb for a second. Last night.

Now I get OK. See for last night when he did cream pie blurted out filling up the gas tank one night again. Was this weird or should I laughed it off? No, that's fucking funny. Yeah, it's funny. It's like calling an audible when you switch positions. That is fucking funny.

If you can't laugh in bed, then I'm I'm straight out of luck because I'm not going to make you scream. That's fucking funny. All right. This is maybe the most important guys on chicks ever. Sup boys, especially big cat daddy as a girl in her early to mid 20s. I have a curiosity. I can't shake.

Is Billy football bangable? Yes. Would I want to punch him in the face? Both. Maybe both at the same time. Yes. I think both. Thanks in advance for your advice.

Sincerely, I just got to know. I think probably both. Billy's for sure. Bangable. I don't like being objectified. Well, Billy, like guy to guy, guy to guy, Billy, like I'd bang you. I think I don't know what. No, don't switch this off the furthest, Billy.

I think that you'd want to bang Billy if you want to marry Jake. You'd want. Yeah, yeah, you definitely want to marry Jake. Bang, Billy, kill Bubba. That's easy. Like Jake, like Jake is the one that you that you make you spend the rest of your life with. Billy, you just anal.

You anal billy peg. Billy's want to anal billy. Oh, man. KY jelly football. You want to experience things in the bed with, you know, like, you know, I thought you could experience. You know, I put up a lot. He's a rebound guy.

Yeah, I'm not a big time rebound guy. What does that even mean? That's good, dude. You're like, yeah, you see Billy at the bar and you're like, I got to get over my that guy's above six. Yeah, Ben Wallace. Oh, shit. Little shorts.

Yeah, you know, we need to get your new shoes. By the way, I'm going to buy you a pair of shoes. I saw your shoes getting roast the other day. You know what? What size shoe do you buy? What size shoe do you wear? Fourteens. I buy I buy girls.

What size shoe do you wear, Jake? I buy 12. 12 pretty good. I buy AF ones in bulk and then I trade them out like Dr. Dre. So, so where's the trade out? What size shoes do you wear? Well, my next formal. Yeah, you know, there's no way you buy them in bulk.

Yeah, because yeah, I buy a couple. Well, where is the next pair? The next pair is coming. My next formal attire that I bought in bulk. Well, I put the new one. I haven't worn through these yet. Yeah, I'd say that you have. Yeah, they're so gross, dude.

Yeah, it's pretty nasty. All right, we're going to get you. Anyway, I'm not bangable. Yeah, you are. You know, you're fuckable. I think you're a treat. You're snack. You would want to punch Billy before you banged him and then

afterwards you want to punch yourself. This is just what I recently discovered a trick from Tiktok. I want to spit in Billy's mouth. This is fucked up. I recently discovered a trick from Tiktok regarding fart bombing. So when a girl is new to seeing or dating a guy, they naturally are embarrassed to fart a poop around them. Sometimes when girls are peering mid-flow,

a fart just sneaks out and could potentially be loud, a.k.a. a fart bomb. Tiktok has taught me that, taught me fold some paper and stick it in your butthole to prevent that. Would you guys be turned off if you overheard a girl fart bomb into the toilet when you first started talking to her? I think. Thanks with love, boys.

I think the alternative, like seeing a girl crumple up a piece of paper and jam it into her ass while she's peeing, is less sexy than hearing her fart. Fart bomb? That's just funny. You're just talking about farting while you pee. Sounds like Jeff Van Gundy. High cake and company.

My boyfriend is a hardcore AWL and Blake Kepke Stan. Recently, when we were watching the US Open together, I briefly mentioned how strong saying any, how strong he is saying, wait, I, fuck. I think I copy-pasted this wrong. I, I, I, I, uh, recently watching the US Open together, I briefly mentioned how strong he was and he got mad saying, anyone can look like that.

Is he insecure of himself or is this a justified response? Thanks. I don't want to say insecure. Anyone can look like that. Yes, anyone can, but like no one has, well, no, not anyone. There are certain people that it just would never in a million years look like. Wait, I think I know.

Beautiful is the price. I think I know what happened. This is during the US Open, you say? Yeah. She accidentally said that about Bryson. Blake wasn't in the US Open. She probably looked at Bryson, thought he was strong, and then he rightfully said that anyone can look like that.

Creatine, ever heard of it? Like if they just take steroids and drink nine protein shakes to that. It just bloats you, right. And just go swimming and salt all day long and get stung by 40 bees that you then complain to a rules official about. The poor twins, they just are so sad.

They were like, they're such a sad franchise. Like there is one one, there's one nothing. I thought they were going to beat the Astros. Didn't they use that pinstripes? And they've just completely imploded in this night dinner. Am I, am I making that up? Did not the Jack McDowell, the Kid Herbeck? Behind home plate right now from Little Big League.

They had pinstripes in that movie. They're just such a sad. It's just sad. I actually thought that Little Big League could happen to me one day when I saw it, even though my parents didn't own a professional sports team. That and rookie of the year. Rookie of the year could happen.

Yeah, it still could happen. You just break your arm in the right place. All right, last one, this is a follow up from last week. My boyfriend and I took PFT's advice from last week's show and started gambling together on the same game so we were never against each other. Because I was so hot, we went with all my picks, but unfortunately, I had a tough weekend

and now my boyfriend is mad at me because he said I'm making him lose on purpose. Can you explain this on my fault? For reference, I had Falcons minus three in the over in the Chiefs game. How do I make him not mad at me? Those were the right bets. Give them a winner.

Tell them that they were the right bets because they were. The Chiefs over should have hit. And by the way, I went back, I looked at the tape of the field goal to end the first half. That ball was in. Really? The ball went over the upright.

They didn't show you the from below angle. If the ball goes over the upright, it counts. I thought that too. I thought that too. It counts. It's bullshit. I was surprised. I was surprised more people weren't like saying that

in real time. They showed the replay and they showed him reacting and I was like, yeah, but what happened was Bucker said it was good. He put his hands up and then the ref on the field is like, I'm not going to get shown up by a kicker. By a kicker. I'm a ref.

This is the only person that I can compete with in terms of how cool I am. So he was like, no, it's like when you run to first base on ball four, the umpire is always going to call a strike on that. You don't want to show them up. That's what happened. It's bullshit.

That is bullshit. Fuck that. Count it as a win. Tell them I said that. Count it as a win. All right. That's our show. We'll do a number of real quick before we go.

Love you guys. Billy, you got a stat? Billy, did you hear our billion person? Yeah, I did. That was funny. I did. I was in the show. That was all dogs go to heaven.

Anyway, Puma's, Mount Lions and Cougars are all different names for the same big cat. Mm. That's fascinating. So Puma is also a cougar. Yeah. And a Puma's a mountain lion. Puma's sweet.

Shout out Puma's sweet. Yeah, big time shout out. She's definitely a cougar. And a Puma. Mm-hmm. And a mountain lion. All right. What do you got numbers?

I'm going eight. I'm going eight. 20, 85, 17. 23. I can't, I can't not say I can't. I'm so rattled to not say 17. What is it? 90.

90. It's a trash number. Trash number. Oh, wait a minute. Do you didn't put all the numbers? No, we didn't put them all back in, yeah. So it's rigged. Love you guys.

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