Pardon My Take - Ryan Fitzpatrick In Studio, Russell Wilson Returns To Seattle + A New Segment 1 Question With A QB
Episode Date: September 14, 2022Russell Wilson goes back to Seattle to boos and we talk about MNF and Nathaniel Hackett panicking down the stretch (00:02:11-00:18:59). Geno Smith got written off but maybe for good reason (00:18:59-0...0:23:54). Cleaning up stories from Sunday (00:23:54-00:33:22). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Robert Saleh taking receipts on Jets haters (00:33:22-00:53:15). Ryan Fitzpatrick joins us in studio to talk about the end of his career, transition to media, the importance of locker room cohesiveness and tons more (00:53:15-01:39:55). We introduce a new segment that was supposed to be Inside The Talking Boot but we changed on the fly to simply we call a Quarterback and ask them 1 question (01:39:55-01:58:59). We finish up with guys on chicks (01:58:59-02:15:17).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Today is Wednesday, September 14th, and Nathaniel Hackett, oh no, no, baby.
We should have given him some more advice on how to use timeouts.
I think we did give him maybe too much advice on field goals at the end of games.
Yeah.
I think that got in his brain, because then we asked him a couple of times, like, hey,
why don't you love kicking field goals at the end of games?
We are reinforcing what happened in the Green Bay game.
And it turns out we just made him, like, subconsciously fall back in love with kicking
field goals.
I also should say he did end up using the timeout.
So if you missed Monday Night Football, it was an awesome game.
It was an awesome game.
We had Russell Wilson's return to Seattle.
We had Joe Buck and Troy Aikman in the Monday Night Football booth.
It took like two minutes for me to be like, yeah, this feels completely normal.
When it first started, and you saw Joe Buck on a Monday night, I was like, oh, this is
weird.
And then two minutes into the game, I was like, oh yeah, these guys are the best in
the best.
I was confused at first because they have daytime voices to me.
It's not so much like the day of the week Monday.
It's that I'm so used to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman being on in the afternoon, maybe like
a twilight, a dusk voice, but getting it started at 8 p.m., Joe Buck pops on my TV.
I got confused.
It's baseball.
But yeah, I mean, they've got big game voices and they work together well as a team.
It was great.
I did watch some of The Man in Cast a little bit last night, too.
They just need to stop having guests on, I think.
They're way better when it's just them making, it's basically 90% Eli being like, hey, Peyton,
you've got a big head.
And then Peyton being like, yeah, Eli, you look like a turkey when your mouth's open
all the time.
That's the stuff that I like.
I don't need Joe McHale on the screen talking about whatever project he's working on.
He also was talking about Peyton's big head.
Yeah.
He was roasting his forehead.
But that was after Eli had already set it up at that point.
It's better.
It's easier when your brother is telling you you have a big head.
When Joe McHale is saying it, it's like you're making fun of someone who's outside the circle
of trust.
I did not watch The Man in Cast at all.
I think Joe and Troy kind of erased them.
I'll watch them if it's a blowout.
But like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, I just love being able to sit down on a Monday Night
football game because we don't have to record after and just enjoying the game.
And Jake, you're going to like this.
I made a little note, Joe Buck, why I consider him one of the best in the biz because I do
think that there are not many people who hate Joe Buck anymore.
It's really like it's an antiquated take.
It's a lot of people.
Like if you say that online, people will be like, dude, you're kind of wrong.
You could say he roots against your team.
That's fine.
But in terms of like big game voices and being a consummate pro, he's up there with everyone
like the Al Michaels, you know, Fowler, Herb Street Booth.
But Joe Buck credits Joe Buck.
This is why he's the best in the biz.
Russell Wilson comes out first drive, crazy booze lays out, does not say Joe Buck did
not say a single word until after the play was over.
He I felt like I was in the stadium.
It was those are the little things that were that's so awesome when he does that where
it's like just let the game speak for itself.
And it was such a cool moment to just because they were thundering booze on Russell Wilson.
I was I was surprised at the booze and we had talked about this last week going into
this game and you asked me like, do you think the Seattle crowd is going to boom?
I said, I said, no, there's no chance that they boom.
He's Russell Wilson.
They're the Seahawks.
He took them to two Super Bowls one one.
This is their God.
They should they will they will revere him for the rest of history and then he comes
out there they boo the shit out of him and you you tweeted out last night like, yeah,
I think you were saying that if the Chicago Bears had a quarterback half as good as Russell,
you'd cheer him for forever.
I'd hug him.
I'd embrace him.
I anything.
I would do the same if the commanders ever had a quarterback like that.
Hank as a loser, a loser yourself.
I tied you in that.
You saw you saw what happened when when Tom Brady came back to the Patriots.
You guys embrace him.
You're like, thank you, Tom, for everything that you've done.
We're losers without you will always be losers.
Now that you're gone, we're losers again.
Thanks Tom for temporarily making us feel like winners.
That's how I would feel.
That's how I would feel too.
If we had Russell Wilson.
So I was I was surprised at the 9 to 26.
So I was I was a little bit surprised, but then I thought about it more.
I think if this game took place at any point other than this year and especially week one,
it might be a little different.
So if Russell Wilson plays for eight more years and he comes back to Seattle at the end
of his career, I think they will cheer him.
I think it's just so raw and so like, dude, you, you, we know what you did.
You can pretend that like this, this wasn't what you wanted.
You remember Russell would always say like, I want to be here long term.
It's like, well, and we would make the point.
If you want to be here long term, you, you will be there long term because you're the
quarterback.
You can decide that.
And just on the flip side, he decided he didn't want to be there long term.
So the rawness of it, the fact that it was week one, I think that if it happens, like
I said, eight years from now, or say, let's even say Russ goes somewhere else and he plays
in Seattle in four years from now, I think they might be a little bit more receptive
to him and be like, Hey, that was cool when you want us to Super Bowl.
Yeah.
I've got to take about the Seahawks about the players themselves not having Russ Wilson
around anymore.
I think they're kind of relieved.
Oh, dude.
I think that it's like a weight off their shoulders, not having to worry about like plugging Russ
in in the locker room, making sure that his software is up to do all that shit, make sure
a shower that he takes that he has his own bathroom.
Does he have his own bathroom?
We're going to get to that with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Remember he alluded to something like that.
That's that's right.
Yes.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I've forgotten about that.
Yeah.
But with with his teammates in Seattle, it's got to be a pain in the dick.
I understand that that Russell Wilson is a great player.
He made the team competitive for 10 years.
And to a certain extent, you have to pretend to like a guy like that.
When he's in the locker room, trust me, I know, like I play on a tribute team with
Brandon Walker.
I get how to deal with annoying people, but I play on a tribute team with Steven Chey.
There you go.
So so once a guy like that leaves the weight off your shoulders is just enormous.
And now you're like, oh, shit, Geno Smith is a normal person.
He's kind of fun.
He's my boy.
Let's go out there.
Let's have fun.
He when so all week I was going to bed on the Broncos minus six and a half and I saw
Russell Wilson show up in that tuxedo and like this, the switch in my brain completely
flipped.
And I was like, wait, we've been talking about this as a revenge game for Russell Wilson.
This is far more of a revenge game for all of the Seahawks who probably were sick of
his shit.
And they were flying around like their, their first half again, thanks to Jules for preseason
matters because we all hammered first quarter Seahawks.
The Broncos looked disjointed to start the game.
The Seahawks looked sharp.
They basically were like, Geno can give us one good half and then we have to hold on
and that strategy worked.
But yeah, I, I, I agree with you.
Like I think Russell Wilson is an incredible quarterback, but you can't at this point,
we've seen enough that he's got to be kind of annoying to be around.
Yeah.
Can you imagine just like you're going to the locker room where you're looking to just
hang out with the boys, you're tired, practice has been long.
And then Russell is sitting at his, at his locker and he's making you watch like Tony
Robbins videos about being more committed to details.
Do you like, fuck you, Russ.
Can I please just hang out?
I just want to play cards, Russ, is that okay?
You come into the locker room and Russ has already been there for an hour, having a conversation
with himself, simulating what it's like to have a conversation with his teammates.
Yeah.
And you're like, wait, what's going on here, dude?
Did you see he, he did the thing where he ran out onto the field and did the simulated
high fives.
Oh yeah.
Even yesterday.
Yeah.
When he ran out onto the field and there was, he's simulating high fives at an away
game running out of the tunnel.
Do you think, I was thinking about this last night, do you think anyone in Russell Wilson's
camp is starting to be like, Hey man, we're getting a little blowback here.
Like people are starting to be like, Hey, you're kind of annoying.
Do you think that that's happening at any point?
Because there, Russell Wilson clearly cares how other people perceive him and the perception
starting to flip.
Like we've, we've been on it for a while, but I think regular people also are kind of
thinking like, yeah, he's kind of annoying.
He's a little, he's a goober.
And again, not a bad guy, seemingly a very nice guy, great quarterback, goober personality.
I think he'd be a great neighbor to have.
Yeah.
About that.
He'd be a fan.
Well, I don't know.
Now I'm thinking like Christmas time, he, he definitely like competes in terms of how
much lights he's putting up on his house.
Yes.
But he'd definitely be the guy that would like come over, shovel your driveway for you
when it snowed, which would actually be kind of a masculating, but he'd probably wake up
at like 4am.
Yeah.
Shovel your driveway for you.
He would be take very good care of his lawn.
No, he would shovel, he would, he would fake shovel your driveway in June, getting ready
to simulate reps.
Yeah.
Just being like, let's simulate this.
So when January comes, I'm ready to shovel your driveway.
I just feel like he's a, he's a good human being, I think, yes, but I would never want
to hang out.
He's just a robot.
And he's, we've seen it many times in sports where you, you become like the person becomes
a brand in of themselves and the brand is like, dude, just be a human.
We don't, we don't care about the quotes.
We don't care.
I've likened it to Russell Wilson when you ask him a question.
It looks like he's internally just scrolling Gary Vee's Instagram page looking for the
perfect quote.
He's going through the files.
Yeah.
He's doing the file rundown.
He's clicking users, Russell Wilson saved files, press conference answers, just trying
to take it one day at a time, execute.
Yes.
That's what he's doing.
Russell Wilson is, um, he tried to, he went off, off course, I think when he steered away
from just being a dork and trying to become the cool dork, right?
You know, like he used to be the dork wearing the, the button down Hawaiian shirt tucked
in.
That was a cool look.
I liked that cool.
That was a cool look.
I like cool dork.
Brace your dork.
But then I think everything changed at that interception at the Super Bowl.
And yeah, remember he, he ran off the field and he gave like a, he gave an interview after
that game and it was saying, you know what?
As I was running off the field, I was thinking, this is God putting you in this moment for
a reason.
Right.
That's a fine thought to have at some point to be like, okay, yeah, somebody's challenging
me.
Like I am Job at this point, right?
But don't think about that right when it happens.
Think about it like six months later.
We've also, uh, you know, I don't believe in God, but there's been times where I'm like,
please God, if there is one, can I win this bet or can the bears win this game?
I, I'm pretty sure if there is a God, he doesn't care about football.
I disagree.
I don't, I don't think I don't think he cares about the result of football games and he's
deciding the result of football.
Explain T-Bomania.
T-Bomania was that would be the would be the hardest, but then explain T-Bow just never
being able to play ever again.
Doesn't matter.
He had that moment.
Yeah.
And being a punchline.
Well, he's like Jesus.
He was, he was given to us and taken away quick.
If T-Bow had won a Super Bowl, I'd be like, yeah, God exists.
Yeah.
That would be a complete confirmation.
Like, yeah.
He still might.
Yeah.
Cowboys.
Cowboys need a quarterback.
Cowboys need a quarterback.
Yeah.
RG3 chasing that hawk.
The hawk was chasing him.
Yeah.
RG3 put the burners on.
He also tweeted after.
He's like, you're probably wondering how I got here.
I'm like, well, you work for ESPN and some producer was like, you should chase this hawk.
Oh, right.
I disagree.
I think that that was RG3's idea.
Yeah, it might have been.
I think because RG3, he gets out of nature and he's like, how can I compete with nature?
Yeah.
Beating a hawk in a foot race or absolutely drilling a tree with a football?
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
So the game, Gino Smith was great.
The Broncos looks bad for a majority of the game.
And then we have the absolute, like, I don't know what Nathaniel, I think he panicked,
to be honest.
So it was what?
A minute and like 10 seconds left, fourth and five, all three timeouts on the 46 yard
line.
And he just like, let's just burn the clock, then call a timeout, then attempt a 64 yarder.
And I just, I still can't, like there's, why didn't they go for it?
They knew they could get the ball with three timeouts.
You can go for it, not get it and still get the ball back with like 50 seconds.
Yeah.
That's a miracle.
But I would still take that out getting four, five yards with Russell Wilson over a 64 yard
field.
Yeah.
This is just a rookie head coach doing rookie head coach.
He panicked.
I think.
And if he'd played enough Madden in the past, he would understand exactly how to handle
that end of game situation.
This is a problem with too many, too many teams are hiring offensive defensive coordinators.
They've spent their lives on the sidelines, calling plays, doing a great job building
offenses, but have never picked up a fucking controller in their lives and played Madden.
If they play Madden, they know exactly how to handle the end of game experience.
Well, they know how hard kicking is.
They know how tough kicking is, and they know exactly when to call the timeouts.
But on the sidelines, if you every team should actually just have a guy who is who is the
minister of the clock.
Yeah.
Just the clock commander.
Yeah.
Just have a guy that's like Flava Flave on the sideline.
All they care about is big fucking giant clock in their face.
They tell you how to handle those scenarios and how to optimize your seconds because it
looked like he just he just went to screensaver at the end of the game.
I don't think he had an understanding with what he was trying to do because anyone that's
ever watched football was yelling at the TV, like, use a timeout.
Use a timeout.
What are we doing?
Why are you doing this or go for it?
Like that's it's not even the clock was was mismanaged.
But I still I goes back to you paid Russell Wilson, you know, $250 million.
You traded all these pics from the whole reason you got Russell Wilson was because he's an
elite quarterback who in a fourth and five situation with a minute left can get you those
five yards.
But you called the timeout.
I think he did was he was he was seeing the clock that was ticking and he panicked.
He didn't know what to do.
And as you're watching that clock kick down, you're like, OK, field goal will do a field
goal.
Right.
So the field goal unit out there.
But that's called the timeout with a minute left.
We had fourth and five and then he gets he gets the first down and then he has a full
minute left to work the rest of the field, get 10 more yards, kick another field goal
or go for a touchdown.
He should have called the timeout the second they got that first or they should have the
game.
They got that like eight yard game on third down or they should have been like, hey,
third downs coming if we don't get it, get to the line, run a play so that we can have
all three timeouts.
So if we don't get it, we get the ball back.
Yeah, you could get the ball back too.
But no, I'm just saying like you have all three times like that, whatever.
It was it was clearly an error.
Russell Wilson did say like he thought it was the right choice.
Obviously, he's going to say that.
But I just smiling after the game.
Yeah.
Well, of course he was because he's Russell Wilson and he did.
He did put on that talks.
He put it back on, which is a wild move.
You can't lose in that game and then put the talks back on.
We're going to say Billy spin zone, like many other coaches in the NFL that week, he lost
on a field goal.
Yeah, that's true.
You lost on a field goal.
That's just like changes the whole narrative of the loss.
Yeah.
He was right there.
He was right there to better explain what happened at the end of the game.
We actually have our old friend, Rick Riley, broke it down for us like we're idiots.
It's beautiful.
Hackett says, he, oh no, he says, sorry, hey, Coach Hackett, if you married Sophia Vergara,
this is great.
Like this, what?
I mean, she was, one was modern family.
That was like, that's pretty good for Rick.
It is pretty good.
But it still is like five years and yeah, it's not Kate Upton, right?
He moved on.
Yeah.
Hey, Coach Hackett, if you married Sophia Vergara, would you leave her sitting in the
hotel lobby?
You married Russell Wilson.
You traded four picks and three guys from, play him, hashtag Broncos.
Why would she be sitting in the hotel lobby?
Well, because the whole thing is like, Daniel Hackett, would you fuck Sophia Vergara?
That's what Rick Riley's asking.
Right.
It's a legitimate question.
He's saying that he took Sophia Vergara after they got married, took her back to the hotel.
And then she's in the hotel lobby.
You stay down here.
Yeah.
I'm going to go up to the room and jack off and pull a Dan Orlowski real quick.
Right.
But you stay down here and wait for me.
Yeah.
You could come to the room.
The honeymoon suite.
I think the big question is, wouldn't Nathaniel Hackett fuck Sophia Vergara?
I think he would.
I think.
Well, I don't know.
So we should have didn't fuck Russell Wilson.
I don't know because he didn't let Russell Wilson fuck the end zone.
Yeah.
That's true.
So thank you to Rick Riley for breaking that down for us.
The other part of this game, the Geno Smith, he, what was the exact quote you guys wrote
me off?
I didn't write back.
Yeah.
A lot of you guys wrote me off.
I didn't write back.
So I was happy for Geno.
I like when Geno like looks like he did in the first half.
It's fun.
I was okay writing Geno Smith off.
I have.
I think that was, I don't have regrets of writing off the guy who was 13 and 21 as a
starter going into this game, the guy who got punched in the face by a defensive player
on his team on the jets because he refused to pay him $600 or the guy that got a DUI
for going 40 miles an hour over the speed limit in January.
I was, I was comfortable writing Geno Smith off cover machine though.
Yes.
He is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I like that was one of those ones.
I know that you have to find motivation anywhere, but it wasn't like Geno Smith was,
you know, killing it as a starter and then a couple breaks went against him.
Like he, Geno Smith has some self-inflicted wounds here, including I think having more
interceptions than TDs as a starter.
I, I was, I'm happy for him, but I was comfortable writing him off.
So when he said that, that quote about a lot of you guys wrote me off.
I didn't write back.
There were a lot of people online being like, this is so cool to see Geno.
I was happy for him.
So many, so many people out there like treating him like shit.
And this is a great way to remind him that, that he's a human being and he can, he can
rise above it.
So I thought to myself for a second, like, I've made my fair share of jokes about Geno
Smith.
I'm, I'm okay with what I've said about Geno in the past.
I think it's a very cool line that he said.
Yeah.
One that I plan on stealing myself.
Russell Wilson will steal it.
Russell Wilson is going to steal it, but probably like, yeah, my, you, a lot of people tried
to email me, but I had my out of office automatic reply set up.
It sounded like the, the end of that song stand by Eminem, but if it was written by
Ted Kaczynski, yeah, and Geno Smith is a fun guy to root for, but we fell into this trap
with him last year.
Yeah.
We fell into the trap where we were like, I think Geno Smith is a legit quarterback.
And I think it took about a game and a half to be like, Oh shit.
Yeah.
He's Geno Smith.
That's, I am, I'm fully comfortable being right off Geno Smith territory.
I, he's had a long career in the NFL.
He will continue to be, he's going to be the starter this year.
He'll be a backup probably somewhere when the Seahawks find their franchise quarterback.
I'm okay with where I'm at with Geno Smith.
Happy for him.
But again, everything Geno like reading back, I was reading back the, the story when he
got his job broken.
He was a real dick.
He was a dick.
He was, he, he told, I can't even pronounce the name, uh, Ike and Jake and Kapali who's
now in real estate.
Who's in real estate.
Oh, that's great.
So the story, the story went that, uh, Ike and Kapali invited Geno Smith to his, uh,
camp.
He had a football camp, paid for Geno Smith to go to the camp.
Geno no showed.
They agreed afterwards they'd split the cost of everything that Ike and Kapali had paid
for him and I'm Polly and I'm Polly.
And then when, when he asked for the $600, Geno was like, what are you going to do about
it?
And then broke his jaw.
And as a quarterback, you should probably just be a little bit better of a leader.
And then the DUI, like again, Geno Smith, nice guy.
I'm good where I'm at writing them off.
So, um, little fun story, when that story broke about Geno Smith getting his job broken.
That was the day that I was actually up in Bristol to watch behind the scenes of taping
of first take with Skip and Stephen A Smith.
It was an incredible moment in television, watching them debate who was at fault in this
mess on the story that was just breaking.
Right then Skip Bayless, I'm telling you, like he was, he was laying into Stephen A Smith
and watching them like debate what a shitty guy Geno Smith is was so perfect because they
would, you know, they, they, they yell at each other for seven minutes and then it goes
to commercial break.
And then Stephen A Smith would get up and pace around the room in the commercial break,
just like muttering to himself.
He's like, Geno Smith, second day, second day draft pick, most overrated quarterback
I've ever seen in my life.
Like not debating himself almost getting himself ready, then sitting down and then Skip Bayless
just doesn't even blink and Skip Bayless is just like, I think you deserve to get punched.
Incredible television.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a wild story.
So, uh, yeah.
Geno Smith has a hell of a career going in the Seahawks.
I, I am now, I used to hate the lime green jerseys, but I think I'm into them now.
Like, I don't know what flipped, but I just, I liked them last night.
I think they play when it's a team with no expectations.
Yeah.
If it's like a legit Super Bowl contender, then it's like Mickey Mouse jerseys, but
they're candy ass.
Right.
But if they're a shitty team with no expectations, it's like, okay, this is kind of cool.
Yeah.
This is cool.
Right.
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I mean, I, I went to bed last night after that game and I was just, I went to bed with
a smile on my face because I was like that ruled and we get to do it 17 more times.
It's pretty cool.
It's like the best feeling.
Like week one's done.
Oh, and we get a double header Monday night week two, which initially I was against because
it's like, I want that week one.
I'm so happy they did that because it's like, you get so excited for week one football,
they could give you anything and you'd eat it up.
Now we get week two with a double header Monday night and chiefs chargers Thursday night.
That's incredible.
We have a, we have some breaking news about Dak Prescott.
Oh, breaking news.
His surgery.
Whoa, that was an awesome cow.
Holy fuck.
Thank you.
His surgery was a success.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
So this breaking news.
Good job.
Good job.
Nice job.
Cowboys are going to be so bad.
So bad.
The cowboy had just probably came in and shot his hand.
There you go.
Yeah.
They're going to be, it's going to be fun watching the cowboys suck for the next month
and a half.
Well, Jerry Jones actually did go on the radio today and committed another hip of violation
and said, Dak Prescott, um, he could be back in like under a month.
Oh.
So Dak Prescott is probably waking up from surgery right now, reading that and being
like, uh, okay.
Yeah.
This is the Russell Wilson injury when he came, when it was a four to six week injury
and he came back after three and then sucked for three weeks until his thumb was better.
Yeah.
In a sick way, I kind of think that Jerry Jones almost likes it when his starting quarterback
hurt.
Yeah.
Because it, it keeps them in the news the entire time.
That's true.
And Jerry Jones can go on the, on the radio every week and be like, yeah, I'm expecting
Dak to be back next week.
And then that's another week of storylines about the Dallas Cowboys.
Cooper Rush time.
Cooper Rush.
Um,
They shouldn't have cut Danucci, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like Cooper Rush is one of those backup quarterbacks.
Like there has to be Blake Bortles would be better than Cooper Rush.
Sam Allinger.
Sam Allinger.
Would be better than Cooper Rush.
Big Ben.
Would be better than Cooper Rush.
There's gotta be guys out there that are better than Cooper Rush.
Phil Rivers would be great.
Yeah.
He's, he's got the polo tie.
We'll never hear from Phil Rivers again.
He's gone.
I figured that it would take Cam Newton.
Cam Newton.
I was throwing his name out there.
32 teams have passed on Cam Newton this season.
Yeah, that's true.
Matthew Berry send the tweet.
It's unreal.
After one game.
I do have, I've got to take that.
I'm about to drop.
Colin Kaepernick.
Ooh.
Why not?
Jerry Jones is woke.
Jerry Jones.
I mean, he loves headlines.
What's the fastest way to get there?
That would be quite some headlines.
You remember, you remember that picture of him kneeling?
Yeah.
That's an all time moment.
I think in NFL history.
Yeah.
When the storyline became like, who's going to kneel before this game?
And then they did the sky cam.
That's the story line.
I mean, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
And then they did the sky cam diving down and Jerry Jones, like at midfield looking
like fucking Captain Morgan, just taking a big knee, smiling, like winking at the camera.
He's like, I did it.
I solved racism.
It was that one.
I mean, Jerry Jones.
It was that one in Ray Lewis, like sweating, like profusely sweating and looking like he
was actually taking a knee because he was so hungover that he needed to take a knee.
You know what he said?
He took two knees.
Jesus.
Yeah, that's right.
He took the first knee for racism and then the second knee for Jesus.
That's good.
Which one right left?
I think you got to go dominant for Jesus, non-dominant for racism.
Probably.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll have to get, we'll have to get ready to talk about that.
Yeah.
Never.
What are you going to say, Hank?
Andrew Luck.
Yeah.
We saw him.
We saw him in Stanford.
In Stanford.
Yeah.
Andrew Luck, we're still trying to get him on this show.
I would love to talk to him for an extended period of time because I do think there's
going to be some Andrew Luck revision where it's like, oh yeah, he was really that fucking
good.
And his, he was, he was on a, like his teams were not good and they, he was a very good
quarterback.
Hank, you don't think so?
No.
You just don't like him because he's compared to Tom Brady.
I don't think he's compared to Tom Brady.
I don't dislike him.
I don't think he's an interesting dude, kind of a goofball, but he has, you know, he's
a physical specimen.
He didn't, he didn't win that much.
I mean, he took them to the playoffs.
He got to the playoffs.
They won a playoff game.
I think they were down by like a championship game.
And then they got fucking smelt.
Weren't they like down by 21 points to the playoffs and they beat the Chiefs?
They came back?
Or did they get their wrongs?
Those teams sucked.
Those Colts teams sucked.
But they went to the playoffs.
What, weren't those Peyton Manning's teams?
No, they completely over it.
Remember they went, what, did they go, no, they went one in 15 or something?
Yeah.
They had a season in between.
Yeah.
They had a season in between that was just like a complete tear down.
I mean, he's a nice guy.
He actually is a per...
But like what you're saying with the revisionist history, like he was, you know, he wasn't
one of the greats.
He retired early.
Yeah.
He did retire early.
I'm saying like he, he, people will say, oh, he was way better than we gave him credit
for it.
That's the revisionist.
I feel like he got a lot of credit.
He got a lot of credit, but he also, it was, everyone got soured from him walking away.
I went two and 14 in 2011.
The Colts did without him.
Yeah.
And then, then he came back and, or then Andrew Luck came to the Colts.
He got drafted.
Yeah.
Chuck Pagano had cancer that year.
You remember?
And he had to leave.
Bruce Arians took over.
And then Andrew Luck went on an absolute tear with Bruce Arians in the second half of
that season.
Yeah.
Eli Manning reminded us last night, Peyton got cut.
That's true.
He did get cut.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So that, I mean, that does change how, you know, the Colts were always, the Colts fans
were always going to cheer for him when he went back there, but it does change the dynamic
versus what Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck is exactly what Russell Wilson should aspire
to be in terms of embracing your inner dork.
Yeah.
He's a, he's being yourself.
He's a huge dork.
And, but we love him.
We love Andrew Luck.
Right.
Because he's, he's authentically dork.
I think he has a good perspective on life.
Right.
It goes back to what we were saying about Coach O the other week where like Andrew Luck got,
he probably collected close to a hundred million dollars in salary, right?
And then he's like, you know what, my heart's not really into getting hit by 300 pound dudes
every week.
I'm injured all the time.
I can just read books and hang out with my family.
Right.
I think I'll do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I'll do that.
Okay.
Anything else from Sunday or looking ahead?
Great.
I was just looking at the slate.
It's, I'm happy that we don't have nine games at one o'clock because that was sensory overload
too much.
And the Monday night football doubleheader does alleviate some of that.
Week one, all games of 425, they need to do that every week.
Is it not?
Nope.
We have 405s.
The gambler's over because we all just sit there being like, wait, when is this game
starting?
When is this game starting?
Yeah.
It was amazing.
I don't, I'm sure it's a TV thing that we don't know about, but I don't see how those
20 minutes.
We have Elana Rams and Seattle San Fran at 405 Sunday.
The Browns changed their midfield logo is the only other update.
What was that?
Yeah.
I did.
We didn't mention that that is cool.
Brownie, Brownie the elf is the new midfield.
I like that guy and the Browns, we forgot to mention, but the Browns did get to send
the first ever one and O tweet, which is always cool whenever it's like Twitter didn't exist
when we were last time we were one and also shout out the giants that are above 500 for
the first time since 2016.
Yes.
That's crazy.
And the table hype is going to is so funny in New York, like he deserves it because they
won the first game, but I feel like we've seen this many times before with head coaches
in New York.
Like they love Joe judge.
Remember that?
Yeah.
To start.
All right.
Yeah.
I mean, basically he did.
He did a good job by going for two, right?
And so that's cool.
Right.
But let's let's pump the brakes real quick.
I'm looking at this Brownie the elf guy right right quick here at midfield.
Terrible ball security.
Really?
Very bad ball security.
Not good.
Pulling that thing like a loaf of bread.
Not good.
And they're going to.
They're going to hold the loaf of bread like that.
We were talking about this on the show.
Or is that on the stream?
That was on the stream school saying that people say it's like.
I don't remember the last time I've held a loaf of bread.
I usually put it in.
You put it in the basket.
Yeah.
Right.
But if I threw you a loaf of bread, you would hold it.
I would catch it with two hands and then look it into my body.
Yep.
And then I'd fucking and then if I was on the left, you know, sideline, I'd make sure
that I was holding on my left hand.
Ball security with that loaf of bread.
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Henry.
My hot seat, we kind of talked about it already, but my hot seat is Seattle, just bad sports
town.
Oh, booing, booing, booing your Super Bowl quarterback.
And we didn't talk about this, but I saw online there was people saying like, there's a difference
between Russell Wilson and Tom Brady, because Tom Brady won six Super Bowls, Russell Wilson
only won one.
That should not matter.
One Super Bowl, like one Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.
You guys, what would you guys do for a Super Bowl?
Yeah, I mean, we just said, I would shoot us.
I would suck God's dick.
You literally shoot yourself.
We'd get shot.
We'd get shot.
Is that blasphemous?
I feel like that might have been over the line.
Not if you don't believe in God like that.
I mean, he would probably want to suck it off.
And so like that kind of, it was gross to see one Super Bowl is plenty.
That should be enough to be a legend in your town forever.
And that's why they lost that NBA team.
Oh, wow.
Hank.
Hank.
It's a bad sports town.
Hank.
It's a bad sports town.
You were being a real piece of shit.
That was mean.
I can't watch that clip and be like, that's a bad sports town.
Now it makes a little more sense.
I've been trying to be nicer to you, but shut the fuck up, Hank.
Wow.
Is that wrong?
Yeah.
That was mean.
Yeah.
Booing a quarterback that won you Super Bowl is right, you're saying?
No.
Listen, I'm saying.
Well, the big example of leaving is that was too far.
You're going to be put on a hit list.
Is that an example of that being a bad sports town?
Yes or no?
Factor fiction.
We're back.
No, I don't think so.
Booing a quarterback that won you Super Bowl.
Bad sports.
If there's such a bad sports town, how come they've got their state outline on Washington
Commander's mugs?
Hmm.
What?
Interesting.
Huh?
What does that even mean?
The Commander's mugs being sold?
Mugs?
Somebody fucked up and put the state of Washington on officially licensed Washington Commander's
mugs.
That I would do that too.
Definitely.
That makes sense.
But no, to your point, I understand why they booed him in a regular season game because
he's the opponent.
I didn't think that they were going to boom, but it's more of like, you're the opponent
tonight.
We're going to be rooting against you tonight.
And he weaseled his way out of town.
One of the weasels their way out of town is going to get booed.
I, again, I wouldn't boo because I've never had a quarterback like Russell Wilson, but
I get it in terms of weaseling your way out of town.
He did weasel his way out of town in the truest sense of the like, if you, if you look up
weasel your way out of town, he did it because they didn't want to offer him a big contract.
No, I think he wanted out no matter what.
Like I don't think they could have paid him anything and he would have stayed.
All right.
Agreed to disagree and brace debate.
That's for sound.
Okay.
Uh, your cool.
That was a cheap shot in the sonics, but that's that was my only takeaway.
It's like, all right.
You know, do the what happens to the song has come back.
They just kind of boo them like they left the sonics, did the sonics weasel their way
out of town?
Thunder came back as the sonics.
They'd have to boo.
Yeah.
Like we consistent.
When KD returned the first time to Seattle, did they boom?
Yeah.
You have to, they'd have to be consistent.
And then my cool throne is golden eye.
Oh, they are re-releasing it on Nintendo Switch.
Let's go.
So it's going to be a new you guys are you guys are dinosaurs.
You played it.
I was I was a little too young to play, but for the for the old heads, it's exciting.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, odd job was the first time I looked at a video game and I was like,
I see representation.
Yeah, I am.
That's awesome.
Is it going to be just updated with the same levels?
Yeah.
Fuck yes.
So it's just like all you need is because Nintendo Switch.
I was on when we were flying to Iowa City the other day, Brandon has a Nintendo Switch.
So I was playing some of the old games and I like nostalgia, obviously with old games.
But I also was like, these games suck because like the video games have come so far.
I was playing Mario.
I was like, this is kind of boring.
Right.
So I think the exception that might be golden eye because golden eye Mario Kart 2 is always
Mario Kart.
Great.
Yeah, there are a few classics that always work.
But I think even the kids understand Billy as a zoomer that plays video games.
Jake, do you play video games too?
Here and there, not as much anymore.
I do have a switch.
I played it a lot.
I actually play with Hank Mario Kart during covid.
But OK, you guys understand how great beat them.
The golden eye video games were.
I understand that it was like the first first person shooter that was good.
Now, doom was pretty good.
Yeah, but golden eye was iconic and N64 was also like iconic as well.
I played a ton of golden eye.
I don't know.
How old are you, Max?
I'm 27.
Oh, yes.
So all right.
So not a dinosaur.
Yeah, I'll say like that was like one of the big N64.
Yes, I was always so so it's not a dinosaur problem.
It's just hangs a loser.
I guess sounds like Hank didn't have friends to play multiplayer mode.
Yes, no, you just crush up.
Banger to what?
Dragon Ball Z Dragon Ball Z had a video game.
I don't love Dragon Ball Z.
All right.
PFT, your hot seat, Cool Throne.
My hot seat.
Good hot seat, Cool Throne, Hank.
Good job, Hank.
Way to go.
My hot seat is college ranking systems.
More specifically, the U.S. News and World Report College Ranking Systems,
which they come out every year and people get mad about them.
And there's always like a bunch of people being like, oh, that's bullshit.
Like, you know, Texas A&M should be way, way, way higher.
But did you see them doing their fucking roast?
That was actually, yeah, I shouldn't have said Texas A&M.
They're on my Cool Throne situation.
But the college ranking systems are always like a big debate
and people are always accusing of being like U.S. News and World Report rigged.
This is not the correct rankings.
And it just came out today that Columbia University provided incorrect
numbers on their class size, their faculty degrees, et cetera, et cetera,
which led to Columbia being ranked number two incorrectly.
They cheated.
They lied on it.
And there's no fact checking behind the scenes in this college ranking system.
So now the entire system's fucked up and we need to replace it with something else.
The whole system is so funny because how it works is these colleges,
they actually just spend money wooing the voters and like bringing them
to the campus and paying for nice dinners and all these things
just so they can get like the ninth ranking instead of the 11th.
And then I don't know what happens from there.
Like your alumni feel like your degree means more.
Yeah, I think that's what it's about.
Yeah, it's the degree means more.
They can charge more for tuition.
Yeah, Columbia hasn't played anybody, though.
The whole thing is pretty bad.
It is bad.
We should just make our own college ranking system
just based on vibes entirely.
Yeah, and it would just be like LSU.
Arizona State. Arizona State, definitely.
Florida vibes.
I was thinking last weekend, like I would have loved to go to Florida.
That seems like a great college.
Yeah, just to hang out. So humid, though.
That's true. I just that's more of a big guy problem.
Yeah, where it's like I see like when they go,
when they show a crowd shot of the swamp, I'm like, I would die.
Like I would die.
What school stinks at sports like overall stinks at sports
but would be the funnest school to go to?
I mean, Arizona or Arizona State, Arizona's got basketball.
I think Arizona State's pretty like mediocre to bad at both basketball
and football consistently. Yeah.
And that seems like a very fun school.
I was thinking Arizona State would definitely be up there.
I was also thinking like NC State might be a fun school to go to.
NC State High Point University. Where's that?
It's like in Virginia.
I heard it's like a country club.
No, what about College of Charleston like doesn't even have sports?
Yeah, College of Charleston, they have a basketball team.
The Citadel, the Coastal Coastal Carolina.
Isn't that in Myrtle Beach? ECU. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, ECU will be fun for sure.
It's ECU is fun.
Oh, I mean, the real answer is Florida Gulf Coast.
Remember those pictures?
Oh, FAU. Yeah. Come to FAU.
Yeah, Boca or Ton.
God, yeah, if I had to do it all over again, I would just apply to FAU.
Be like, fucking, I don't care what I'm studying.
Just have a great time.
Just have a good time.
That's really the only point.
My cool throne is Texas, the University of Texas,
because they were pretty mad coming off this weekend
when they got hosed off the non-call for the face mask
and the the phantom roughing the pastor in the end zone,
all that shit against Alabama.
It was a tough couple of days in Austin,
but then the Internet gods smiled upon them
and released a bunch of videos of Texas A&M
doing their yell practice, which instantly made Texas fans be like,
all right, at least we're not Aggies.
And then Texas A&M spent all day trying to DMCA
every video of their embarrassing whatever cult practice.
Like that was cult.
If you show that to anyone who doesn't know like American football,
you just would be like, that has nothing to do with sports.
That's just a cult.
Texas A&M is a cult.
Yeah, I say this as somebody that knows a lot of Aggies.
I lived in Texas for about 10 years.
They are a cult.
A lot of them are nice people, but nice people who are in a cult.
What was the thing the guy was doing where he like he would do that every time?
That's the horse laugh. Oh, my God.
They've got an entire they have an entire like
catalog and encyclopedia of different
hand motions and body motions that these yell leaders have to make
at certain points.
They're just they're just cults.
They're just in their cults.
And I do love the Texas A&M when you make fun of them.
They're like like you can you can make fun of Texas A&M
for a million different reasons,
but they'll always be like number one in agricultural sciences.
We're like, OK, great job.
Good job. I'll take I'll take my dog to you when it gets sick.
Yeah, we're talking about weird shit that you do before the football games.
We don't care about the actual degree here.
I'm sure it's a good school.
And they also they claim weird national championships that don't exist.
Yeah, like 1920s.
I think they had to actually take down
national championships off the side of their stadium that they tried to claim.
Sometime in the 1940s, they had to like they got fact checked on their stadium.
Yeah, weird, weird times always in college station.
All right, my hot seat is anyone who doubts the Jets
because Billy's football coach Robert Salah
went in front of the media on Monday and said
talking about the turnaround the Jets are going to have.
He said, I know it's going to happen
and we're all taking receipts on all the people who continually mock
and say that we're not going to do anything.
I'm taking receipts and I'm going to be more than happy to share them
with all of you when all is said and done.
He went on to say it's exhausting.
It's exhausting for the coaches.
It's exhausting for ownership.
It's exhausting for you guys to continue right about losers.
It's exhausting for the fans.
It's exhausting for everybody and nobody wants to lose.
There's nothing worse than being sold a bill of goods on the future.
Everybody wants things now.
It's like the instant coffee age.
I will put myself down as a receipt.
He can he can absolutely come back and dunk on me
when the Jets become a Super Bowl team.
But yeah, that was he's he's taking receipts.
He's letting everyone know.
I also liked that he started his this sentence
or this entire diatribe with the turnaround.
I know it's going to happen and then said
there's nothing worse than being sold a bill of goods on the future.
So kind of doing both there.
He's going to happen.
He also said that he's looking forward to, I think, shoving it down our throats.
Yep, he's looking forward to that day.
I'm yeah, I'm fully going to admit,
like I have been a doubter on the New York Jets.
Yeah, it's not my finest moment.
I guess that goes hand in hand with doubting Geno Smith, too.
It's kind of like a Venn diagram.
Exactly one circle on that one.
So my throat is ready to get it jammed down by by Coach Salah.
Yeah, he's going to have a Berman wallet.
Yeah, of receipts.
He's going to actually die buried in receipts because I don't know.
Maybe maybe the Jets will be good this year.
I don't think so.
But if they're not good this year, he could get fired.
And if they're not good next year, he definitely will get fired.
So yeah, those receipts, it's tough to say that like he must think
that the practices he's watching, they're they're a really good team
because things are about to turn out, you know, he said that you guys
don't get to see the things I see.
Yeah, right. I love whatever that's always a good sign.
That was coaches like we've strung together the best practices
of our entire year.
And you guys haven't said anything about it.
Kirk Ferenc said that about Spencer Petrus, because everyone in Iowa
was like, dude, anyone would be better at quarterback.
And he was like, you don't see what we see all week, which is essentially
saying our other quarterbacks are somehow worse.
Like it's. And did you see also Bob Stubbs got tricked on cameo?
He did a whole cameo, basically being like Brian.
OK, we'll get to it.
Yeah. All right.
My cool throne is the Queen's corgis.
So there was a lot of talk about where the Queen's corgis are going to go.
Turns out rumor. OK.
So Billy did the joke.
There we go. Billy took the joke.
Wait, what would Billy say? He's a best groomer.
I was going to say that, but yeah. Oh, so yeah, I don't get it.
Yeah, because he's a pedophile. OK, I got it. Yep.
OK, so go ahead. How cool would it be?
How cool would it be if the dogs just ate Prince Andrew?
Yeah, they just fucking attacked him.
If the Queen had been training them.
Yeah, her entire life to like be like, OK, once I put you in in the room
with my pedophile son, I want you to go for a kill.
Kill him. Death by corgis would be the most adorable murder ever.
It would be. Yeah.
You just be trying to boop them back while they just.
I wouldn't even mind your face.
I wouldn't mind getting killed by corgis. No, enough of them.
It would probably be now.
It would probably take a while.
Yeah, it would take a while, but it'd be snuggly. Yeah, it would.
It would be very, very nice.
All right, Billy, your hot seat cool throne.
My hot seats, the gold zone, as we saw.
Hackett's gold zone didn't really do well in the red zone.
No. In my other two fumbles on the goal line.
Yeah, that was tough.
And then my other hot seat is Putin.
Turns out Russia's not doing too well.
Yes. So is Ukraine in Russia now?
Ukraine has gotten to the Russian border.
They took back Izium and they totally duped the Russian generals
into moving their troops farther south, and then they took the part in the north.
Yeah, shit.
It is kind of like a news Broncos, Seattle Seahawks situation.
With Russia and Ukraine, like everyone expecting it's going to be a total cakewalk.
And then Ukraine puts up a pretty bad ass resistance.
Yep, they get to the goal line and they fumble the ball.
And shout out all the people who have kept Ukraine is their Twitter avatar,
because that that that that did it.
I'd say that the 50 percent, the sunflower emojis is what did it for me.
That and also like the I love seeing the updates where like a Russian troop would have
they like Ukraine was getting intel by Russian troops like leaving their air pods places.
That was great.
Just like, yeah, they're right there because we can see their phones.
Also, they had that one dude.
It was I think it was a like former adviser to Putin that went on some way.
It was whatever the equivalent of the Russian version of the view is
where they just have like a bunch of former generals sitting around and talk about Russia.
And one guy was like, we're losing this war.
And then the rest of the panel just looked at him like, dude, what the fuck are you saying?
Don't say that. You know, this is you're on television right now.
He's like, no, I mean, look at it.
We're losing. We've lost all these guys.
And everybody's like, no, I think you have bad morale.
Yeah, you have bad morale.
Fix that. OK.
Jake, or do you have another cool throne, Billy?
My cool throne was just NFL vet Twitter.
There's a whole argument between Micah Parsons and like a bunch of offensive linemen.
Yeah, you got killed by Leonard Farnett.
And now you just have like old dudes arguing about blocking.
And I just think it's awesome.
I love offensive line Twitter because they are by far the most cohesive unit
on Twitter because they're like, we all basically spent, you know,
a decade of our life being morbidly obese so that we could get embarrassed
to like one out of every 40 times and people shit on us.
Now we're fighting back and we're not going to let you guys tell us
that we're being wrong when we fuck someone up with like a semi blindside block.
Yeah, that's great. It is great to watch.
I there was one thing that I wanted to talk about from the weekend.
I think it was in the Steelers Bengals game.
I wanted to shout out to Steelers offensive line.
I know that they stunk and a lot of people are on them,
but sprinting downfield to spike a ball at the end of a game as an offensive line unit.
When you're exhausted, I haven't really thought about that before.
You got to run like 30 yards and dead sprint, get there.
And then maybe the hardest part is you have to get completely still
after you get up to the line of scrimmage before you hike the ball.
That's got to be the hardest thing in the world to do that nobody talks about.
Yeah, yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah.
All right, Jake, hot seat, cool throne.
Then we'll get to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Great interview in studio.
My hot seat is the MLB stats department.
Oh, so the Los Angeles Dodgers obviously unreal this year.
They have 96 wins. Obviously. Yes.
And they thought they clinched the postseason birth on Sunday.
They had champagne. They did a toast in the locker room.
The MLB then announced an internal error and said, no, your magic number is a one.
What? How?
So they won again yesterday and they clinched for the second time.
But did they do more champagne?
I don't know. Can't you just look at those standings?
Yeah, I guess there was a tiebreaker issue or but they clinched twice.
It was like a doomsday scenario where if exactly certain games had gone the wrong way,
then they would have had to play like a playing game or something, maybe.
Yeah, they got postseason hats on Sunday, too, before they.
I would have celebrated twice.
I would have said, you know what? Double champagne.
Yeah, quick side note.
But Mike Trout hitting seven, seven games in a row at the home run is insane.
We're doing a I mean, people will know by now what happened,
but we're doing a boost tonight in the Barstil Sportsbook.
Will he hit the eighth?
Because it is it is so Mike Trout when he hit five in a row.
Yeah. So it's so Mike Trout that it's also not a big story. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
My cool throw and big cut.
You hinted at it.
Fans who are trolling.
So next level trolling.
Someone had Bob Stoots, Stoops, former Oklahoma coach and friend McCaffrey,
Iowa basketball coach, made cameos intended for football offense of
coordinator Brian Ferenc, being like, it'll be OK.
Cheering up like my viral.
Yeah, Bob Stoops is like, you know, I I've been in this situation with family members.
Like maybe you should just go out on your own.
Go to New England. Go back to New England.
Yeah, where he started his coaching career.
It was great. It was great.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's the proper use of cameo to have them subtly do something like that.
OK.
Should we get to our interview?
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All right, here he is, our good friend, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
OK, we now welcome on recurring guest, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
You can see him now on prime on Thursday night football.
He's going to be part of the pregame show and post game, I'd assume.
So doing it all, Ryan, I mean, you know what the first question is going to be.
We're going to this whole entire interview is to just get you out of retirement.
You're not retired, right? You're not actually retired.
I'm actually retired. No.
You saw the way I sat down in the couch.
My hip is still, you know, it's not great. Come on.
We just we actually just before you walked in, we did like a little quick
list through our brain of how many teams could use Ryan Fitzpatrick right now.
It's a long list. OK, let's let's cut to the chase, though.
The Buffalo Bills, you love the Bills.
You're at their playoff game last year.
You still feel that deep connection to the city of Buffalo.
Josh Allen needs a backup going into playoff.
He's going to be fine. I'm not saying that thing gets hurt.
No, OK, definitely not.
But he's like, you know what?
We need a little Fitz magic just to just to be on the sidelines
as we're making a playoff. OK, three million dollars.
Would you do it? Mm hmm.
No, for multiple reasons, money, you know, whatever.
We can throw that out of the equation.
You're well off. You went to Harvard.
Still haven't used a degree.
But let's think about and, you know, the history,
some of the history of my career, everywhere I've been, where I've been a backup.
The starter goes down everywhere.
It doesn't matter where I go.
It doesn't matter who it is.
It doesn't matter the circumstance.
We've got a broken jaw.
We've got dislocated hips.
We've got Liz Frank injuries.
I would not want to do that to my boy, Josh.
That's interesting, isn't it?
That everywhere you go, just the starter happens to get.
But what if we use this power for good and like a fan base?
I don't know. Let's just say the Minnesota Vikings are like, hey,
we're kind of sick of Kirk Cousins.
Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick and then we could be done with Kirk Cousins.
That's a we can we can pick off quarterbacks if you want.
But Josh wouldn't be one that I'd want to pick off.
OK, so you're actually done. No way.
This you are going to be the guy that we mentioned like five years from now,
being like, you know, who's still out there?
Ryan Fitzpatrick and he could probably sling it for you for a few weeks.
Well, so when I got benched in Miami
and Flores started doing the hey,
let's put him in at the end of the game thing.
I did not. Practice.
I was there. I watched. I helped.
I was active in meetings.
I did not practice and throw a ball in practice from the time
I got benched until the time you saw me play in those games.
Denver and Las Vegas, because I wanted to prove to myself
that I could come out of the stands at any point and play.
Yeah, and I did and I proved it to myself.
So maybe in five years of I'm feeling better and I get a call.
You're the new far. Yeah, we're going to send out an offer to stay away
from all the welfare situations and taking tax money.
But you're the new far. You're the new far now.
You're rich. You don't need to do that.
But you actually do owe me.
You owe me a year in D.C. I do.
So I gave you a solid 13 plays.
Yeah, there were good 13 plays. Yeah, it was fun.
Nice pass to Maclaurin on that one.
Uh, was that how many passes did you complete as a Washington commander?
Um, I don't three of six, maybe.
Let's look it up.
I was looking forward so much to that.
Check downs. I was too.
And we we talked right before the season started when you guys are doing
your bus tour or whatever.
And I was too.
And I was especially excited to play with a guy like Terry.
Yeah, you know, Curtis ended up being hurt for a lot of the year.
But there were some some good energy.
And then it just went out the window right away.
So if Carson knock on wood, he's not going to sprain both ankles this year.
But if he gets like COVID and monkey pox at the same time or whatever.
And we need you to come in for one game, $3 million Washington commander, two games.
No, three of six, 50, 13 yards, three of six for 13.
That's not bad.
Yeah, that's because if you.
So let's say they let me throw 60 passes that game, then it would have been
30 for 60 for 150 yards.
That's pretty nice.
Yeah, I mean, now we're talking.
Touchdown interception ratio, zero to zero.
Yeah, that's huge.
Yeah, is there a rush in there or no?
Let's see.
You probably ran at the safety.
You always love running at the smallest guy on the field.
That's one rush for two yards.
Yeah. So is that where you broke your hip?
No, that no, I got sacked.
OK, that was.
Yeah, that I mean, that injury, that's not an injury you hear for people
in their 40s, 30s, 20s, whatever.
Like that's that's a significant injury.
That's like, oh, Nana broke her hip.
She's going to die.
Yeah, yeah.
So I tried to avoid pneumonia.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like was it though, when it happened, were you like, I know it's a broken hip.
This sucks.
Well, so so I didn't fracture my hip, sub-bluxed it.
And then it was the head of my femur that was like the issue.
But it starts.
It was six, eight weeks from the original image.
Then four weeks later, they went in and it was much worse.
The health of the head of my femur.
And so then once I started talking about like hip replacements and whatever
else, it got a little bit scary to where it was like, OK, like this is we're
looking at the rest of my life now.
I've got a really cool here.
I did PRP shot.
I did stem cells.
And then if you remember, and I know PFT, you do, the building got raided by
the DEA as I was getting my treatment.
Like I wasn't physically in there when it happened, but they took the
top trainer and the second trainer away and didn't replace him for a while.
So then I just had to go elsewhere for treatment.
You get a nice little taste of what it's like to play in Washington.
That really I it's such a clown show sometimes in the front office
that you forget all the stuff that has happened to that team over the last,
I don't know, just three years.
I completely forgot that their office got raided by the DEA like fully.
So that was kind of a blip.
It was a real blip on the map when it comes to it.
But yeah, so that must have been really, really strange as a player.
You're looking around like, where do I get treatment now?
Are you just on your own after that?
Yeah, so I went in.
Nobody really had known what happened.
The guy that would treat me, I thought it was a COVID situation.
I said, oh, is he out because of COVID?
Everybody was real hush hush.
And then it went on for a couple of days and slowly we kind of figured out what
happened, but they weren't sure if he was going to be back or not.
So they didn't replace him with anybody.
And so I was sitting there looking around the training room like I need treatment.
And I need help here.
So I just had to go elsewhere.
I sought help down the street somewhere.
That's nuts.
You'll always be a football team in my book.
Football team for life.
Is that how you say it?
Like, once a football team, always a football team?
Yeah, teamer.
Would you consider yourself like Bill for life?
Yeah, what would be the?
What set do you claim?
Yeah, like what?
So this was a tough one for me because there was a little bit of chatter
after I retired of, hey, is he going to retire a bill?
Like I think when I go to bed at night, if I was to think about myself in a jersey,
it would be in a Bill's jersey, but it wasn't really the story of my career.
The story of my career was that I bounced around everywhere and I played on a bunch
of different teams.
And so even though like that fan base, like those are my people, I decided that I
wasn't going to retire with a particular team just because I played on so many.
And that's more of my story.
You should sign with a new team you never played with and retire with them.
That would be cool.
That would be cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Patriot.
You've been in every other team in that division.
Yeah, I didn't get to complete that one.
Yeah, yeah, you didn't get all like what the Infinity Stones.
Collect them all.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're in media now.
Are you ready for media?
Because like this is, we can give you tips, but you're with the big boys now.
You think playing in your little football league is hard.
The media is different animal.
Well, I know there's going to be a learning curve.
I mean, I've done one preseason game.
And so I do about an hour pregame.
And then we do a tight halftime show.
We've got a tight post game for about 10 minutes.
Then we get to the post post game, which is like what I'm most looking forward
to because it is like, again, one preseason game is very tight.
It's a little eight second, 10 second.
There's a producer in your ear saying, OK, shut up.
Next one.
And this post post, it'll be 30 minutes after the post game show,
is going to be more freewheeling, setting up the weekend at football games.
And that's what I'm really excited about.
So have you sat down and studied the whole league,
or are you able to go off the knowledge that you had from your career?
So I will say, well, and you guys could tell me, I guess, better than I know
already, but you have to study.
You've got to be all over it.
No, well, basically, you just pick a team that you like.
But you watch games.
And then you say, oh, yeah, we watch games.
But then we take, like, all right, if this one guy does one thing one time,
he's either good or bad in the rest of his career.
Yeah, for sure.
Pick one team that you hate and just call them frogs.
Well, my biggest thing is I'm such a quarterback hater.
Like, I hate him until I like him.
You know, they've got to win me over.
And so I don't want to spew a lot of hate early.
I want to I want to be a little bit neutral on some of these guys early,
but then I'll be spewing, you know, as the season goes on.
So have you watched all the young quarterbacks and like studied tape on them?
I mean, I've watched them like you've watched them.
I don't like Richard Sherman grinds.
He's like me and him are going to be sitting next to each other,
like grinds over the, you know, all 22 tape and is just and as a player,
you do that. But for me now, I almost like watching the TV copies better.
Just what what is the audience seeing?
What are they hearing?
And then, yeah, I could have my takes from that.
But like, he's grinding over that.
I'd much rather just watch the game on full on TV and formulate my opinions.
Oh, the Nickelodeon games, too.
You're going to get to see the Slime Zone for the first time.
You're going to love watching football on television.
I mean, I've never been able to do I'm envious of you
because you get to experience this for the first time a Sunday.
That's just like you on your couch watching Red Zone.
Oh, my God, do you know about the Red Zone?
What? What is that channel?
What is that? You get to see every touchdown.
It's incredible. Really? Yeah.
As it happens live.
Yeah, that's going to be great. It's going to be awesome.
You're the king of the Red Zone for a while, where it just be like late.
Your team was down 14.
Here comes Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Sometimes there were a few times I think we got into it with Ceciliano
because he was like and Ryan Fitzpatrick has the bucks in the Red Zone
and there's an interception. Yeah.
And then we go. Yeah, you can't do that.
You said he set you up.
That guy. Yeah.
He can't have it.
You're a believer in James, though, aren't you?
I am.
Yeah. You know what, though?
You know what? Well, yeah, I know you guys like his videos and everything.
But James is one of one.
I don't know if you've read the literature.
You know what? And we can give you a hot take on James right now.
Like the thing it's almost difficult for me to watch him play now
because he's he's not really playing his brand of football.
Like it's so tame and almost like
they've scaled it back so much for him,
not in terms of men overpassing what he can do,
but like with the short passes and try to make him, you know, drew a breeze
at like that.
That's not really who he is.
Let him is free. You got to let him be.
Yeah, we don't need we don't need 30 picks in a year.
But like James, like 15 picks is OK
because he's going to throw the ball down the field and make plays.
But some of it is tough to watch now
because it's not even really the same guy he is.
He is our like last hope because we lost, you know, we lost Big Ben.
We lost Philip Rivers.
Eli had some unintentional comedy.
James is the king of unintentional comedy at this point for us.
So like we need him to be James.
He's just do it.
He's great because he does have these plays where you just laugh out loud
because you've never seen like a human body
flail out in the ways that it does.
But then he also has the plays that take your breath away
where, you know, he spins around four times in the pocket
and then throws the ball into quadruple coverage
and the guy comes down and catches it.
Yeah, it's incredible. So we need James.
I agree. We need to free James because he's bet.
He's at his best when he is doing stuff like I mean, 30 and 30.
I know you say you don't need 30 or sessions.
It's memorable. I kind of need.
That's incredible.
Yeah, 30 touchdowns and 30.
That's a lot more fun to watch. Yeah.
I don't think you'll ever see that again.
Yeah, it was special.
It was it was so give us a hot take about a quarterback.
Media guy, you're going to get backlash, too.
You know, yeah, I mean, whatever I say, I'm going to get backlash.
I mean, can you give me a guy to talk about?
Or you just want me to like talk about Joe Burrow?
Well, who are you?
Talk about Joe. Yeah.
So I. So Joe Burrow is a great example of a guy I wanted to hate.
I wanted to hate, you know, at LSU, he had all the talent.
Like, look at who he was throwing to at LSU.
He comes in, lights it up like, OK, now you're going to come in.
You're going to have a hard time.
And this is the NFL, dude.
Like he didn't have a hard time.
Yeah, it was like he just picked up where he left off, you know,
the injury and whatever else, but they picked up where he left off in college.
And like football is not easy.
Playing quarterback is not easy.
And Joe Burrow like makes it look very, very easy.
But that dude throws it down the field.
Like he's not one of a lot of these new age
quarterbacks is like efficiency and we're throwing the five yard passes.
And like it's burrows or burrow.
Is there a burrow?
So like Burrow throws the ball down the field and his the core receivers
that he has right now, like nobody really talks about T Higgins.
But my God, if you watch that, dude, the way he catches the ball.
Incredible.
And so Joe Burrow, to me, is a guy I wanted to hate,
but absolutely love watching play.
I'd say he's in my top three.
Oh, OK, give us the rest of the top three.
I always have to leave like a dangle top three to tell you the other two.
OK, all right, so tell me.
I like that you've got five guys in the top three and it's smart.
I don't ever want to define the top three.
What about Justin Herbert?
Because I like Justin Herbert, but he also hasn't been in the playoffs yet.
And it feels like a lot of the media is anointing the Chargers.
And it's like, I want to see it.
I want to see them, you know, win games that they're supposed to win,
win games in different ways.
I want to see it before I'm like, yeah, this team is a Super Bowl team.
Yeah. And so we our first game is going to be week two.
September 15th, Thursday night, and we got the Chargers and the Chiefs.
And so we're looking at, you know, two of the top three, top five.
Oh, OK, two of the three.
But two of the three top five quarterbacks.
Two of the top three, five, eight quarterbacks.
But so I went out to LA and I was doing a little thing with Justin
Herbert to talk with him, you know, to set up the game and whatever else.
One of those fun media, he doesn't do media.
Yeah, he just doesn't.
And it's not like, I mean, he's a very nice kid.
Like I met him at the Masters a few years ago.
Awesome, fun to talk to.
As soon as the camera showed up.
No, he was out now.
Like, wasn't wasn't saying anything, wasn't interacting.
Like people are diving in front of my questions to like answer for him.
It was it was odd, but he's all ball all the time.
And he is much bigger.
Like if you see the dude in person, I mean, he is enormous.
So, you know, physically, when you look at him versus other guys
that maybe were drafted ahead of him, one in particular, like physically,
I don't know that there's much of a comparison.
But I think it was a lot of the, you know, some of the stuff
you heard about his personality and being an introvert and, you know,
standing alone at practice at Oregon and not talking to anybody.
That was a huge turnoff for some of these teams.
But he's obviously exceeded expectations very early with the way he plays.
So question off of that, you, you know, we're in the NFL for so many years.
Would you tell young guys like, hey, lighten up, would you try to tell people?
Because there does feel there are definitely some quarterbacks that
and this goes for every sport where the athletes feel like I don't want
the media is the enemy.
I don't want to be a part of this.
I don't want to be like, you only have a certain shelf life of people
wanting to ask you questions.
You'd think like at some point, like, hey, let's let's have some fun with it.
Would you tell guys to do that or no?
Well, so Justin Herbert is a great example.
And I didn't really get to talk to him after, you know, the cameras are done
rolling of like people want to see you, they want to know about you
because you're so dang good at throwing the football and playing quarterback.
Like you don't have to be fake for the media.
Just be yourself.
It's okay if cameras are there, but just be yourself because people are so
interested in you, the human being.
And when people can see that human side of you, like it just makes it more interesting.
I mean, people want to root for you.
So my biggest thing with young guys was like, you have to be yourself.
You have to be authentic because if, if you're trying to be somebody or not,
if you're doing the social media stuff and it just in the locker room, it
comes across as fake, then it's just, it's not going to work out for you.
So be yourself, but, you know, this is a profession.
You have to take serious, but it's also something you need to enjoy.
Yeah.
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And now here's more Ryan Fitzpatrick.
All right.
Here's a big media question for you to Sean Watson.
Talk about who go for it to Sean Watson.
No, you don't actually have to talk about this.
You know, I have to get to it.
I think we've said everything that needs to be said.
Yeah.
You were ready to do it, though.
Yeah, you were.
He's not going to be in our game.
We've got Pittsburgh, Cleveland, early.
And so I'm going to have to talk more about Jacobi percent.
I think.
Yeah.
OK, that'll save everybody.
But the other guy that there's another guy that you played with.
I think you alluded to him a second ago.
Tell us.
Tell us for the two of believers out there.
Two and one.
We're a member of two cats and two and one expect us.
I'm not.
I'm too agnostic, I think.
I don't know.
I don't know what to expect about it, but just give somebody something to look
forward to, like, what is to do better than most quarterbacks can be careful?
You know, I know, I know, I get it.
I get how, like, dicey of an opinion, every opinion is around two of.
But so if you're a top 10 quarterback, like, you have to have at least one
trait that is absolutely special, that something you can do that really nobody
else can do, Josh Allen, I think we all see the arm talent.
We see the way he can scramble and run, the hits that he can take, the hits
he can deliver, Herbert, physically, same thing.
With two, uh, it's not the arm strength.
It's not the ability to run.
It's not the ability to scramble or get out of trouble.
So what is it?
You know, people would say, well, he's a winner.
The Tyree kill said he's the most accurate quarterback I've ever seen.
Now, when I first saw to a, what popped out to me because it's hard for a young
quarterback to come in and do this, anticipation and accuracy.
Like those are the things that he has to be elite at.
And I think that he is very, very good at, very accurate and can anticipate.
Um, the problem is sometimes you have to create and he, he can't, he's not
going to be able to scramble and he'll be able to scramble, get out of trouble
and get you five yards, but he's not going to be able to scramble around,
escape the pocket and make the big plays down the field.
So he has to take what he has that's elite is his accuracy.
And hopefully as he gets better, his decision making, and he has to be the
best in the NFL at it because he's limited in some of those other ways.
That's, that's a great answer.
So off of that, um, if you had to rank like what you would want in a quarterback,
what's number one, is it always armed talent?
Um, no, and this is the reason that I think Josh Allen is the best quarterback
in the NFL, because all of these guys are talented.
They all have strong arms.
If you can throw the ball 60 yards, what's they all can, like how many times
you're going to see Josh Allen throw the ball 80 yards in a game?
Never, like, I mean, maybe we'll see him in warmups, throwing it out the
goalposts or something, but as long as you can put the ball 60 yards on the
money, like usually you're not throwing it much farther than that.
But for me, and the reason that some of these guys really bug me and the
reason that I love a guy like Josh Allen, we've got the talent.
He's also the dude that sits in the locker room and he's just a dude.
He can just be a Carson Palmer for me.
When I was young, watch the way that he was, he's just a dude and he was a
Heisman Trophy winner.
He was the number one pick, but everybody loved just being around him.
And that, that like, if the leader of your football team can do that and is
that human being, then it just resonates with everybody and sets a tone in the building.
So Josh isn't going to have his private office, like, I think maybe a Denver
quarterback now has his private office and doesn't shower with the team.
And, you know,
Russell Wilson doesn't shower with the team.
No, I don't know.
I don't know that.
I'm just hypothetically, hypothetically, there are certain guys.
Russell Wilson is afraid to shower.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not trying to create news here.
All I'm saying is like, if you've got guys that are so important and put
themselves as so important that they now are separating themselves from the locker
room, which is the most important part of a team, then they fall down on my list a
little bit, would it be fair to say that the quarterback doesn't have to be the
leader of the team, but it's a hell of a lot easier if he is.
Yeah.
And I think we're going to see this year in LA with the Chargers.
Justin Herbert is the leader of that team because of his talent, right?
But he is not a vocal leader.
He, he can have people follow him by the way that he plays, but he's not the
leader in that locker room in terms of the way that he presents himself or talks
or, you know, he's not going to get up and give a speech before a game.
And even if he did, like that's not him, like even for some of these other guys,
like if it's not you, then it's not going to come across as real.
It makes it easier if the quarterback is that person.
Yeah.
So three guys that fall into that list, you mentioned Josh Allen.
I think most people would say Patrick Mahomes falls in that list too.
And Lamar Jackson, absolutely beloved in that locker room.
So we're going to do the media thing where we make you pick one.
And by implication, you're also disrespecting the other two that you don't
pick. Yeah.
So if you were to build, start a team from scratch right now, you're building
around one of those guys for the future, who are you going with?
But your choices were Lamar, Josh, and Patrick.
I mean, I'll go Josh just because of what I just said about him.
I will say I'm super excited to watch Patrick Mahomes this year without Tyree
because obviously we know how special Kelsey is.
We know the relationship they have their golf and buddies, you know, and hanging
out and all that, which is important.
Relationship off the field, important on the field.
Cooper Cup realize that best friends with Matthew Stafford breakfast club.
We were early on that breakfast club and look what targets start to go up a little bit.
You know, you start to get him his coffee like targets.
So that that really does translate to the field a little bit.
But I would I would just say like Kansas City is going to be super interesting
this year because I don't know like Andy Reed is magical.
Patrick Reed or Patrick Reed.
Oh, my God, Patrick Mahomes.
He actually read steals money from his teammates.
Patrick Mahomes is absolutely magical.
So like we will see what happens there.
But they're they're obviously going to win at least 10 games.
But, you know, I don't know how far they can go.
Is Mahomes your two in the league?
Second best. Yeah.
Yeah. So then so Brady and Rodgers not in your top three.
No, they both are.
This is interesting.
Like my top three like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are definitely my top three.
OK. So yeah, your top three goes to Allen and Burrow and Joe Burrow.
Yeah. And what about Lamar?
Yes, Lamar is also top three.
I like that. Smart.
Yes, I will.
I will say like because we were doing this.
Me, Richard Sherman, Tony Gonzalez, Andrew Whitworth and Chris Thompson.
We're all going to have in this discussion.
And there's definitely like a once you have to get to like number 10.
Yeah. Then it becomes difficult.
Like because there's a clump of like six of them,
you know, like car and cousins and where you're like, there's six of those guys
that aren't in the category we're talking about right now.
But like cars actually a guy that is slowly moving in the right direction
for me that I just like for a long time.
Yeah, really? Wow.
You got to make you got to make a beard bet.
I feel like that's something you have to do in media now.
It's like I will shave my beard.
But me, I think me and you did something like we made some bet last year.
If you want to play off games, you had hell of a half.
Well, yeah, I mean, it was first that first quarter.
We came out. I think we kicked the field goal even maybe.
So yeah, it took an early lead, I think.
Yeah, that was tough.
I wanted to go back to something you said about the locker room and how important it is.
Do you think like obviously football has evolved and the way we talk about it has evolved
and people are a lot smarter about how they talk about football, analytics, everything.
Do you think that human element still trumps
everything else when it comes to numbers?
Because that's the part that always interests me about sports is like let down games
or the team that has no chance.
Everyone wrote them off, but they're able to do something like the locker room
and how it comes together.
Is that would you say that's more important than, you know, numbers and all these like,
hey, when should we go on fourth down and everything?
Yeah, yeah, I think it is.
And that's you see teams every year and the charters are a good example.
We're going to revamp the defense.
So they bring in, you know, Mac and they bring in the run stuffer from LA.
They bring in all these names, J.C. Jackson, but there's a culture in the locker room
and it's all got to fit.
And so for me, when I look at it and I'm looking at teams, you need like those pillars,
like those guys for we'll use another example since I've been talking about the bills a lot.
Let's let's say Baltimore is an example like Lamar Jackson is a pillar on that team.
Who else on that team is their pillar?
Who are there guys on defense?
Who are there other guys on offense?
Because as soon as people come in and Baltimore on defense had a great culture
for a long time, like there's a standard that everybody else has to live up to.
And there's a way that you need to act in the locker room.
And there's a way that you need to act when you go on the road.
And these cultures and locker rooms are so important.
And it's hard from the outside looking in to get a feeler sense for a lot of that.
What coach because the Ravens, I would argue, is very much Harbaugh,
like similar to the Steelers, where the Steelers like the Tomlin is the culture
and what he said.
So what coach did you have where it was like the culture and almost the pillar
was the coach, not the players as much.
Right. So, you know, my just my career very interesting in that it was just
short stops everywhere, basically, right?
And if if I was there for more than a year, usually there was some coach getting fired.
And so I I had so much turnover when I was in Cincinnati.
Marvin Lewis had been there for a while and still was there after I left for a while.
So maybe he was one that I had at, you know, Mike Munchek, when I was in Tennessee,
a guy that, you know, was a great player at Penn State and then a Hall of Fame
player in the NFL and then goes on to be a good coach.
He, for me, it was like when I walked in that building, I just from his presence.
OK, I got it. I know what the standard is.
And this this guy's all business.
And I was there for a year and he got fired after that year.
So, you know, yeah.
But I mean, that's it's I mean, we talk about like going with the Titans this year.
They're everyone's like, oh, they're kind of going the wrong direction.
And I keep going back to put Vrable is a coach that it seems like every time
you write off the Titans, he finds a way to get his the most out of his team.
Yeah, I think that's a great example.
And I was with Raves in Houston when he was just the linebacker coach.
But he was one of those guys very early on.
You could put your finger on and say, OK, this guy's going to be head coach.
Like it's just a matter of time, whether it's going to be three years, five years,
like this is it.
And for a guy to be able to play at a high level like he did
and then go and become a coach, first of all, just to have the want to.
I'm sure he made plenty of money to be like, OK, I want to coach this game
and to do it with the passion that he has.
He's also a culture guy where you walk in and you're like, wow, like this.
OK, I know what to do.
Like I'm looking at you.
This is it. Yeah.
Would you say Chang Gehle was the was he the Fitzpatrick whisperer?
Like he was you and him were you were together what, three times?
We were together three times.
So, you know, Chan and I met when he was hired in Buffalo in 2010.
Vicious three way quarterback battle between me, Trent Edwards and Brian Brom.
You know, and it was just every day. Yeah.
Just battling.
Yeah, big two and on your 4chan.
Yeah. Yeah.
So but so I didn't start the first two games that year.
And then I did for the next three years.
But the interesting thing.
So Chan, for me, is my favorite coach I've ever had.
And a lot of that is just his belief in me and the offense that he ran
and the way there was some freedom with players and what we could do.
One of the more bizarre moments of my career, though.
I'm in Miami.
We go through the tank for two a season and.
The offense coordinator gets fired.
Chan gets hired.
Like it would nobody asked me anything.
Like I was with the guy for three years.
He had been retired and living in Georgia and enjoying his grandkids and golfing.
And like you would have thought maybe they just would have asked me.
Yeah. What do you think about this guy?
Which I would have given an answer that I'm giving you.
Like I love Chan.
Like he's my favorite coach, but like zero, zero.
Which is weird.
It was bizarre.
Yeah. You just saw him one day when you walked down the hall.
You're like, oh, no, they just they told me.
Oh, I'm high. Oh, hey, hey, Chan.
So you probably went through a couple of times in the last year and a half or so
when people were trying to figure out, like, are you the motherfucker
that Tom Brady was talking about when he said, like, you're keeping this motherfucker?
But it turns out you've been vindicated, I think.
I don't think you were the motherfucker.
I think it was Carr. Yeah.
That seems like a recent car.
That's the most recent.
You think it was you?
I feel like Brady respects you.
No, zero respect.
Never shake my hand.
Really?
He wouldn't shake your hand?
Well, the first time it just I mean, I've told this story before,
but he just pisses me off because.
You're in Buffalo.
You're playing in Wayland.
They're kicking our ass every single year.
They're beating us and we finally in 2011 knocked him off.
It was right at the beginning of the season.
We had this like great start and he threw five interceptions in the game,
which was just wonderful to see every single one of them.
It was like wonderful to see and run straight off like no handshake,
no, you know, quarterback, middle of the field, where are the cameras?
OK, stay healthy, buddy.
You know, pat me on the head and let me go.
I just ran straight off.
So it just it bothered me so much because there was no respect there.
Yeah. And so it was like every time I played him after that, I was like,
all right, like I at least got like, let's make this dude respect me.
And ended up in New York with the Jets and with Miami beating him.
Yeah, both, you know, the last one was especially sweet
because it was the tank for two a year.
It was, you know, start out on seven.
Is this the worst football team of all time?
They beat us by 40 something points at the beginning of the season.
They needed to beat us to get home field advantage.
And they were it was his last regular season game as a patriot.
And we go and we score at the end of the game and beat him, you know,
and then Kansas City gets home field and they win the Super Bowl.
Did he shake your hand after that one?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, I think I probably you earned your respect.
You probably got it.
I probably initiated it.
Yes. Yeah, you're finally one.
Yeah, you spread the right over to.
But I think on the last reading of it,
it seems like they were talking about Derek Carr.
Yeah, because he was going to like go to the Raiders.
I regardless, I'm making I'm making shirts that say I am.
OK, yeah, I don't want to take.
If you believe that you're the motherfucker, I think that you're a fuel.
Yeah, for prime, you'll be ready to go.
You just have a chip on your shoulder.
It no chip.
I just I like the funny t-shirt.
So I just don't know if I'm not sure with Amazon if on Prime Video.
Can we wear a shirt that says I am that mother?
Yeah, no, yes, definitely.
Try it out. Yeah, yeah, definitely can.
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We'll set you the right direction.
You have anything nice you'd like to say about Jeff Bezos?
He's got a great body, right?
Yeah, he does.
He's jacked up.
But he's it's Andy Jassy is now, you know, in the driver's seat.
Oh, OK, nice.
I'm a couple of years behind the news.
Yeah. All right.
So I had a couple of last questions.
I think I might ask this last year, but I'm going to ask it again
because it relates now to media.
Did you know when Fitz magic was taking over?
Were you like, oh, here it comes.
Yeah, the magic. Yeah, I really I think so.
Like it really was just like a feeling of invincibility.
And, you know, I think peak was Tampa, the beginning of the beginning
of that season in Tampa when James was suspended for the first three games.
Like you can even see if you go back to the Pittsburgh game on Monday night
when we're losing, like you can just see it be it's injected in my veins.
And then it comes up into my eyes and it's just it's magic.
It's it's it.
So do you think you'll have that same thing like when you just nail a segment
on Prime Video? I think so.
So I think once you see me start taking buttons down on my shirt,
like that's when you know, it's that's kind of the sign like,
oh, this is about to get good here. It's coming.
Like the chest hair out. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's good.
It's going to be when it's at its peak.
It always bothered me when people said Fitz tragic when it would then go poorly.
Yeah, but it was part of it.
Well, it was part of it.
You have the Fitz magic without the Fitz tragic.
Yeah, exactly.
The yin and the yang.
Yeah. And what so so so.
Uh, quick seg or sidebar here when they had the
there was a tournament in Jacksonville, like a gaming tournament for Madden.
And there was the shooting.
One of those kids is his gamer tag was Fitz magic 13 or something.
And he got shot and is totally fine now.
But I reach out to him.
He was a Jets fan.
Anyway, like we kind of formed a relationship and like good dude.
And he told me once he said, it's not magic if it happens all the time.
And I was like, dude, that is such a great way to think about it.
Yeah, that that was kind of my career.
Like it didn't happen all the time.
Yeah, but like it's not magic if it does happen.
It's high for so high.
The magic happened all the time.
You'd be a Hall of Famer.
Yeah, who wants to do that?
No, immortality.
You have to do like a lunch break.
What is that?
Like, it just doesn't seem interesting to me.
Yeah, I mean, you know, because you went to Harvard,
that's an overachiever move.
Well, and we probably would have lived in the same city like what?
Yeah, right.
Toward the country.
You know, we had a way to pack our bags every year, pretty much.
Yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, you are like the poster child for the Hall of Very, Very Good.
Yeah, you had you had a very good career and a fun career, too.
Yes, very.
And you thank you.
The moments that we had, like what's your you mentioned the start
of that season in Tampa Bay, to me, when I think of Fitz magic,
it's actually a play when you were on the Dolphins at the end,
where you just threw that ball downfield with your head looking backwards.
I would say that right there in a nutshell that encapsulates Fitz magic.
Could you even see were you looking behind yourself?
Were you like looking at the ground as you threw that?
How far back was your head?
Yeah, I got pretty far back.
But yeah, that was I thought that was a great
that moment was incredible, because that was one of those moments
where I got benched early in the year.
I just got thrown in the game, you know, against all odds, 18 seconds.
And that happens.
And we get in field goal range and we win the game.
And then I test positive for COVID the next day.
And it was like it just encapsulated my career.
Like I can never just be normal or steady.
Like it just, you know, that would have been boring, though.
Like, you know, it would have been boring.
Normal career, you had you were you were one of one.
Fitz magic, one of one.
Well, yeah, that's a fact.
Appreciate it. All right.
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Um, have you guys ever interviewed Richard Sherman before?
No, no, you've never.
No, do we know?
Sure, I'm familiar with his work.
Yeah, familiar with his work on and on, like not just the football stuff,
but maybe some of his takes and what else.
Like, yeah, he's a Stanford guy.
So you have a Stanford guy, you know, his story that he played
receiver and Harbaugh hated him and they couldn't catch.
Yeah, he couldn't catch.
What do you mean? Well, I guess that's why I got moved to cornerback.
No, because he he could catch.
He just it was there were some other issues.
But I know that he can catch because I threw him multiple balls.
Do you have a favorite interception?
Favorite interception, I'm sure I've got a few.
Yeah, I just I always liked I always like going at guy,
like Daryl Rivas, because nobody ever threw at him, right?
And for a good reason, but it was like, well, Stevie,
let's see if we can go at this guy.
Let's see how that works out.
And a lot of time with Reeve, it didn't work out great.
But with other guys, you know, it's fun to challenge them sometimes.
I would just say, like, I think.
This Thursday night football thing.
Like everybody's just be authentic, be you, be real, like I get that part of it.
But I do think me and Sherm, the back and forth, I think will be very interesting.
Because he just sees the game so differently than I do from a different perspective.
But I mean, what are some I want to try to attack?
You know, not not just his character, but I just want to really be able to attack Sherm.
Do we have any something about his hair, about his face,
like any physical feature blemishes that I could go after?
You could call him.
I did love when Patrick Beverly went and called Chris Paul a traffic cone.
And he so you could just be like, yeah, at the end of your career,
you were just a traffic cone out there.
OK, I like that. Yeah, I like that.
Just call him something like that.
Just remind him that the only reason that the Seahawks were good
is because they cheated every play.
They were holding. Oh, you could call him Seattle.
Yeah, Seattle Seahawks. Yeah.
OK, these are really good.
That is a thank you.
I mean, just bring up any time there's a run past situation that's obviously run.
You could just keep hammering him on that.
Yeah, what are you going to do?
It's on the two yard line. Yeah, Richard.
Oh, pass it. That'll work.
I'm pretty sure didn't he have a Viagra thing?
Or is that somebody else in Seattle?
I don't know. I have pop for using Viagra.
But that's the other thing is you don't have to actually have facts
behind anything you say. Yeah, you learn that quickly.
You say it. And then if you have to correct it,
actually, you don't even have to correct it.
You should be like, well, it's a joke.
Oh, yeah. That's great.
No, no, it's great.
It's the best way to do media.
OK, I'll put that in my.
That's one of my top three things of advice.
Yeah, either you're right or it was just a joke.
Yeah, yeah, just kidding. Never been beat.
I was obviously kidding.
Oh, yeah, yeah. So Richard Sherman did.
Yeah, he he took Viagra and I think Adderall at the same time,
which sounds like a hell of a combination.
Yeah, yeah.
Just we had maybe start the first like chiefs chiefs
chargers first Thursday night that you're doing.
Just be like, damn, that game was so much fun.
I felt like I took Viagra and Adderall at the same time.
Wow. OK.
Dead air.
So it's been a lot of fun to get to know him,
though I didn't know him very well just from playing against him.
But that's going to be a great dynamic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And wait, who's who's hosting it?
We've got Carissa Thompson.
She's our friend, Tony Gonzalez.
Andrew Whitworth kind of be in and out a little bit.
Carissa will check you, too.
Carissa's tough, man.
She's funny.
She's very funny, a firecracker, for sure.
Yeah, kind of a psycho.
But she I mean, you know,
some of it knows her stuff. Oh, yeah.
And she was a huge Seattle fan growing up,
but she's been very fun to get to know bias there.
You got to be careful, bring that up.
Carissa already broke my 11-year-old daughter,
made her cry in an interview.
So I'm never going to let her live that down.
What'd she do?
She asked my 11-year-old, she was wearing a jersey
that said, fits magic on the back.
And she said, what does fits magic mean to you?
Which is a tough question for an 11-year-old.
That was sort of an initial like, not, hey, Lucy, nice to meet you.
I'm Carissa. It was like, what does fits magic mean to you?
Microphone in her face.
And she just went eight, nine, 10 seconds and lost it.
Full tears, other room, like, we're seeing a therapist.
So it just, yeah, that was tough.
But yeah, Carissa's not very, you know, for my daughters,
at least, they don't really look up to her at this point.
Well, the first time she came on this show,
she kind of did the same thing to us.
Yeah, she bodied us, she kicked our ass.
She made fun of like the backgrounds in our apartment.
She's tough, man.
She killed us.
I think she called me poor.
She was like, why do you have a laundry machine behind you?
But if you ever get a chance to go out with her,
she's very fun when the cameras are off, like hanging out,
like going out to dinner or so.
Well, I would tell you, so maybe the best part about this job,
if we can call it that, is like last weekend,
we did the Thursday night game, went to the hotel bar
or whatever, and Al Michaels is just holding court, like talking.
And you could just listen to him, just his voice.
I don't care what he's talking about.
Forever.
But the stories, I mean, his memory is unbelievable.
We're talking like the name of the cab driver 40 years ago,
when he was at a game, like he'll give you the exact day
and whatever else, and it just, being able to just sit back
and listen to him has been really fun as well.
He doesn't eat vegetables at all.
No veggies.
Just straight up meat.
No veggies.
He eats just like dark liquor too.
He eats dinner during the game.
He's never had a vegetable in his life.
That's great.
It's incredible.
That's someone everyone should look up to.
Yeah, I think so too.
Doesn't get talked about enough.
He's a carnivore.
He's quite literally the last remaining carnivore.
Dude loves me.
Yes, yes.
All right, well, Ryan, we're rooting for you.
We're excited to watch you.
Maybe we'll come back at the end of the season
and let us know how it went.
We'll be watching.
If you mess up, we will be on you.
But don't, yeah, but just send me a text or something.
Don't put it out.
Just alert me first, because we're in the.
Thumbs up it?
Well, yeah.
More thumbs down, depending on what you tell me.
But like, we're in this together now.
OK, yeah, yeah.
The first one we'll do off air.
But then after that, we have a dedication to our audience.
Just give me one.
Yeah.
And then after that, we're just going.
I might just, you know what?
We'll do this as a favor to you, because we consider you
a friend and you're a recurring guest.
When you start on Thursday, your first show,
we'll just tweet out, did Ryan Fitzpatrick
really just say that?
And with no context.
Perfect.
Yeah, I love that.
Get the buzz going off it.
Yeah, yeah.
But then you owe us.
You have to at least give us the first team that calls you.
You have to just let us know.
I'll give you the scoop.
Yes.
The second I get a call, I'll give you the scoop.
Let us know, because I mean, you're an econ major, right?
Supply and demand.
Right now, there's a big demand for Fitzmagic,
and you control the entire supply.
So you can really work that to your own favor.
Let us break that.
Let us break that, and then we'll get the buzz going.
We're like the mafia.
I think my oldest son was happy.
I retired, so he didn't have to keep drafting me
in fantasy with his first pick.
So now he's got a chance this year.
Yeah, he definitely can win.
Yeah, but we'll protect you.
You're protected.
You're part of our family now.
But yeah, we will, what is it?
I think 10%, 15% of your salary?
15% of your salary.
We got 15% from Josh.
15% of your salary, and we will protect you at all costs.
That sounds great.
We'll go to the end of the earth to protect you.
All right, so cash or?
Well, I'll just, board apes.
You can send it to us in board apes.
I'll pay out in prime memberships.
OK, perfect, I like that.
I love that.
All right, well, thanks so much, Ryan.
We appreciate it.
Good luck this year.
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Everyone, it's the hot new thing.
Everyone's got a quarterback on their show.
Midweek, we did have Ryan Fitzpatrick
put a current quarterback.
Well, no, I guess this isn't a current.
We're going to stick with them.
Maybe he might be.
You'll have to listen to the interview to find out.
Yeah, so we have Big Ben talking boot with Big Ben.
Putting on the talking.
Putting on the talking boot with Big Ben.
Let's do it.
OK, inside the talking boot with Big Ben.
It's the new hotness.
Every podcast has decided they need a quarterback
on once a week to make sure that they're a.
I don't know what I don't I actually
don't know the reasoning behind it.
I think I know the reason behind it.
It's because Aaron Rodgers did it.
And so I think what we're going to find out
is most quarterbacks, you don't really
want them as a guest on your podcast once a week.
I think I think a podcast is sometimes good when there's
not a quarterback.
I'd agree.
And we did have Ryan Fitzpatrick on,
but he's part of the media.
I also I'm very interested to see.
And I love I used to love this move.
My guy Jay Cutler, he used to do a weekly spot on Waddle
and Sylvie every I think it was maybe Monday or Tuesday.
And it when the Bears season, as it always does,
hit a low point, he would just send Kyle Longer, Brandon
Marshall.
So by like the entire second half of the season,
it was just not him.
So I wonder like that's that's such a power move to be like,
yeah, I'm I don't really want to talk about all these losses.
So I'm just going to send someone else.
So that like, let's see which one of these quarterbacks who
does a podcast every week is up to the don't care attitude
to just start sending teammates instead of himself when things
just kind of fall apart.
So I've got an idea of how we can handle this because people
are going to be like, yo, why aren't you getting your friends
on the show?
And to be honest with you, we haven't asked anybody to do it
because it's good when they come on like once or twice a year.
But again, I feel like most good podcast people
listen to them for the interviews occasionally,
but not to have like a third host all the time.
Now, my idea was we could either one just steal their audio
from the good part and play their audio in our podcast
and cuck it that way and take all the good parts for ourselves.
Or we could just do like we could ask Blake Bortles
one question per week down for that.
And we'll have Blake Bortles on the show every Wednesday.
And just like hit him up, ask literally one question,
have him answer, and then hang up.
And that's it.
That's our weekly Blake Bortles.
Wait, so let's see if he's around because maybe we should just
do that right now.
That sounds good to me.
We were going to play big Ben stuff,
but that would be really funny if we just had Blake.
Let's see.
What should our, let's figure out what our one question is.
Oh yeah, good point.
Let's see.
One question for Blake Bortles.
It could be anything, anything in the world.
Do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?
And then maybe like a follow up question.
If he says no, do you believe in heaven?
OK, actually, how about this?
I feel like we don't want to blow this interview.
Yeah, this is big time stuff.
This could be big for the podcast.
You could ask him, do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?
I feel like that's an easier way.
Like that's a softer intro to him.
And then if he says yes, then you say, well, do you believe in hell?
OK, perfect, perfect.
All right, so, and I'll also, it won't count as the question,
but I'm also going to ask, can you come on every week
to do one question?
That won't count as the question.
OK, that doesn't count.
That's a different.
OK, come on, Blake, please pick up.
I'll try the phone call after the FaceTime FaceTime is an abrasive move.
It's aggressive.
Yeah.
That's an aggressive move at 9 PM at night.
Yep.
Should we just go through the list of famous people in our phones and keep
calling us?
Ask them.
They'll be weekly guests on the show.
Calm, calm.
Hopefully this works.
And then maybe we can try to get him on Zoom once a week.
But that's also the problem is like, that's a lot of scheduling.
That sucks.
It does.
For everyone involved.
Fuck.
Come on, Blake.
I should have called them before.
They're planning by us.
I'm sorry.
Oh, damn it.
Should I call?
OK.
Should I call DK?
No, no.
I think it's got to be a quarterback.
Let's just.
I love the Blake idea.
We should make it Blake.
Let me just see.
Let's who's funny as quarterback we have in our phone.
I kind of do want to just call DK.
I haven't talked to him in a while.
Yeah, but I think we got to keep up with the Joneses.
OK.
Let's see.
It's important.
Anderson.
He's not a quarterback.
All right.
This is becoming.
Let's see.
I call Graham Mertz.
Don't say it.
I know you want to say he's not a quarterback either.
That's mean.
Let's see.
A good call.
Cutty spate.
He played quarterback.
Oh, why don't we call Jared?
Oh, yeah, we could call Jared.
All right.
All right.
Good call.
Good call.
And that one guy who tweets me every day saying it's been this many days since
you've had Jared on.
Yeah.
Let's get you on the phone.
All right.
Hold on.
I now I have one of those issues where I have his number.
You would be surprised, but like famous people and quarterbacks and like stars, they change
their number a lot.
And then you might get frozen out forever.
All right.
I'm calling Jared.
What's our one question for Jared, though?
Do you know where Blake is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you ask Blake if we'll come on your call?
No.
Oh, no.
I have another Jared number.
Okay.
This would suck.
Here we go.
No.
No.
This is quickly becoming unusable audio.
Oh, that made me sad because Jared Lorenzen is right next to him.
Oh, all right.
He's a bummer.
What should we call Billy?
Oh, he's a wide receiver.
He's not a quarter.
He changed.
We call.
Hold on.
I'm going.
I'm just called Matt.
You know, Max.
Oh, I think, I think I have Gardner Minshew's number somehow.
I didn't.
Have I ever texted him?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's call Gardner Minshew.
Should I call Joe Burrow and just be like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Give that a try.
All right.
Okay.
He's a backup.
He should be a starter, but he's a backup.
Okay.
Should I ask Joe if we can ask him one question a week?
Yeah.
And then just be like, how annoying was Coward this week?
This is just now a new segment.
Watch Big Cat and PFT get shunned.
All right.
Here we go.
Call.
I do think Blake is the answer though.
Wait, what's it?
I've never.
Oh, hang on.
It's going to be bad.
This is kind of thrilling though.
Just us calling just playing phone roulette with quarterbacks.
It's also kind of like the opposite of a flex because none of them.
And they're also like besides like Josh and Joe and Jared.
No.
Okay.
All right.
I've never talked to Gardner Minshew on the phone.
I could tell.
I want to see Hank show your, show your video right now.
I want to see him shaking his head.
I want to see Hank shake.
Oh, this is great.
Okay.
Gardner Minshew.
This I've texted with him a few times, but I've never talked to him on the phone.
Is this kind of a crazy move?
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Joe Barrow just hit me back.
Okay.
He said, what up?
That means don't call me, dude.
That means don't call me.
Hang on.
I'm going to say we're trying to keep up with coward and we just have, we're hoping we could
ask you one question so we could say that Joe Barrow is on the podcast.
Yeah, sure.
Does that work?
I could call Jim Harbaugh.
Okay.
Let's see.
Let's see if he gets back.
Should you text Gardner first?
Oh man.
I think the thrill of just, oh Kenny.
Oh, can you pick it?
Yeah.
He would definitely pick up.
He would.
Now I'm nervous.
Now that's a big question.
I just don't know how we're going to edit this.
Probably just take everything out.
Probably.
I'm mostly disappointed that Blake didn't pick up.
Yeah.
I mean, he's probably doing something really sweet if we're being honest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He is.
Tommy Reese.
Ryan Leaf.
Just looking for quarterbacks.
Not really who's who.
I've got.
Oh, Jared's calling me back.
Here we go.
Okay.
Jared.
What's up?
Dude.
We're, I don't know if you've noticed, but like every podcast is having a quarterback
on every week.
Okay.
So we want to have, um, we were going to have Blake on for one question every week,
but we called me to pick up.
So you're just going to be on this week for one question.
Is that cool?
Sure.
All right.
So you're on right now.
Um, or what was our one question?
PFT.
Our question was going to be, do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?
Oh, do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?
I hope so.
Okay.
But follow up.
I know this is, this is part of the first question.
Do you believe in hell?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So there was one question with Detroit lions starting quarterback, Jared Goff, our good
friend, um, tune in next week.
Jared, are you up for one question again?
Maybe you and Blake can just go back and forth.
Yeah.
See Blake, Blake, uh, may have better answers than I do, but I can do it.
I can be second to Blake if he's not available.
Okay.
Yeah.
I like this little, a little role reversal.
Now your Blake's backup.
There you go.
That's fine.
All right.
Everything else good?
That's not a question.
That's just a friendship thing.
All good, man.
All right.
We miss you.
Um, maybe we'll, I don't know.
I want to see you soon.
We play the bears a couple of times.
You may come right?
Yeah.
Come and I'll have to, I'll wear like split jersey, Jared Goff, but it won't be split.
It will just be a bear's jersey with your name on the back.
Perfect.
Okay.
All right.
See you man.
Thanks.
Fuck.
Yes.
We did it boys.
Okay.
We got it.
We got a starting NFL quarterback.
Yes.
Great plan going forward.
Blake will be our mainstay.
One question with Blake Portals every Wednesday.
And when he can't do it, Jared is our backup.
That sounds good.
I'd like to see every other show keep up with this shit.
Jared's our main backup.
And then whatever numbers in your phone for Gardner Minshew.
And then after that, whatever excuse Joe Burrow has for not picking up.
I kind of want to call Gardner Minshew.
This is kind of funny.
So I said, I said, we just want to ask you one question so that we can say that you're
on PMT tomorrow.
And he's like, lol.
And I said, it's all good.
Jared Goff just called back.
It was a big race to see who would return calls fastest.
And Joe Burrow says, damn it.
I can't take another loss this week.
Fucked up.
Yeah.
All right.
So this is our new segment every Wednesday.
We're going to do one question with the quarterback and it will be Blake.
And then we'll just, anytime Blake can't, we'll figure out who.
Should I just try Gardner Minshew just to see?
Should I prank call him?
Does he know your number?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably.
All right.
Let's call him.
All right.
This is not going to be awkward.
I've never talked to him on the phone.
Oh man.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
No way he has your number saved.
Yeah.
Okay.
What was it?
What did we even take?
Hey, hey, Dan is Gardner Minshew.
I'm ready to rock whenever you are.
Oh, that's when we interviewed him.
So that was kind of it.
All right.
So that was actually a much better segment than what we had planned.
I think we were planning on just using some of big Ben's interview that he
did on his podcast, footballing and then cutting that into our podcast.
But I think this way is actually a lot better.
Yes.
So this has been talking boot.
The talking boot segment.
There was a very funny part of Big Ben's podcast, though, that I feel like we should
at least address real quick.
So I have a feeling that his pod is going to be him sipping beers calmly while
watching football absentmindedly and occasionally telling a story about an
injury.
It's perfect.
And the injury that he talked about this week was against the Bengals in that
playoff game.
You know the one with Vantes perfect when he laid out Antonio Brown, maybe the
most violent football game ever.
So first of all, Big Ben was talking about getting carted into the locker room.
He was getting driven off with a doctor and somebody was like throwing beer and
it hit his leg.
Now that's all well and good.
But he was getting carted off with a shoulder injury.
So he got onto the cart and then they wheeled him into the locker room and then
he got off and he tried to throw a football to the trainer and he couldn't
even lift his arm up.
It was the worst injury the doctor had ever seen.
You sent the video and you're like it starts here and I got caught up with
some kid stuff.
So I then I turned it on like for one second before we sat down and I listened
to like 10 seconds.
Like I got the gist of this.
He's like I couldn't lift my arm and then I just turned it off.
I was like, yep, I know where this is going.
Yeah.
He said he couldn't lift his arm.
It was the worst arm a doctor's ever seen.
And then he and then he tried to throw it.
Pass to the trainer and he couldn't even lift his arm up to throw it.
So then he was like, Doc, can I go back out there?
And they said, you know what, Ben?
You can, but you're not playing.
You're just going back onto the sidelines.
But there's no way that you can get back into this game.
And so Ben goes out there and then he hears the fans be like, oh shit,
big Ben's coming back.
And he's like, they don't even know that I'm not going to come back.
I'm just going back out there to watch my guy.
And the doctor said there's no chance I can play.
So I stood on the sidelines and then a couple of drives later,
I just kind of found myself back in the game,
willing to team downfield, doing shot put style passes,
not even really able to pass.
They went back and asked him a second time, like, wait, Ben,
how did how did you end up getting back in the game?
Why did that happen?
And he's like, I don't know.
It's just like, you know, I was back there.
And then next thing I knew I was back in the game playing.
They just tricked it.
They're like, dude, just go out in your jersey.
You'll be fine.
And then he's like, yeah, just go out.
Stand in the middle of the field.
You don't have to do anything.
You'll be fine.
Yeah, just go out and just take a quick snap.
You'll be fine.
He's like, yeah, now I just woke up and I'm playing football again.
Yeah.
It was it was a wild story.
So that's that's what we're going to do with the talking boot with
Ben Rathlisberger.
But I'm I'm much happier.
Oh, yeah.
Having Blake Bortlis on the show every week.
This is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is
like vintage PMT to have everyone have these high level quarterbacks
and we're going to just do one question.
And I think I'm going to amend it a little.
I think we go one question with Blake Bortlis and we tell him it's
only one question every week, but we all get one question.
So Hank gets one.
I go and you get one.
Billy gets one.
Jake gets one.
And Blake gets one too.
Blake gets one.
So we just we just tricked him into doing like five minutes with us
every week.
It'd be perfect.
It'd be perfect.
And wait.
Wait.
Tricking somebody to do five minutes.
That is actually like how this podcast.
Yes.
And then soon it'll be Blake Bortlis on the show for 30 minutes.
Correct.
It's a joke that then the joke becomes on us and then ever and then
someone like like awful announcing will write a year end like podcast
awards and they'll be like Coward had borough.
Kyle Brann had Josh Allen.
Pat McAfee had Rogers and these guys come in fourth because they had
Blake Bortlis.
Don't give a fuck because I love this show.
I do too.
Okay.
Back to ourselves.
Guys on checks.
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Okay.
Let's wrap up with guys on chicks.
Hank, you got us some guys on chicks.
By the way, Friday we have a great interview with Danny and Lucy
DeVito in studio.
I still feel bad about them having to sit in this couch.
So that was tough, but great interview.
They were great.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go.
Okay.
So it's only week one and I'm in a couple leagues with my boyfriend,
his friends and their girlfriends.
Again, week one.
Whoa.
I just dropped my mic.
Hank has limp mic problems.
Most of us girls have outscored our boyfriends to the point where
the guys are saying, well, this league isn't our competitive league
anyways.
They have a larger 12 team guys league with the single friends
included or saying, well, we let y'all draft better.
At what week would it be fair to assume that the girls are just
better than the guys because we over analyzed the draft and came
and ready to prove we pay attention to football too.
And we are just as good.
Like, when can I roll over in bed and look my boyfriend in the eye
and say, I'm better than you?
Is it week four?
Is it week six?
Is it now?
Any help is appreciated because I want them to take this league
seriously.
And I think shit talking is the only way to get them locked in
instead of dismissing their eventual defeat.
See, fancy football is one of those things where the more you read
about it, the worse you get at it usually.
It's always the people that spend time like Jerry O'Connell was telling
us, like he subscribes to all those different weird sites.
He gets the magazines.
The more time you invest in a fancy football, actually the worse
you get at it.
It's like March Madness brackets.
Exactly.
Like the best way that you can do fancy football is to just go
with whatever the computer tells you, draft those players and then
try to have fun.
The more seriously you take it, the more you'll overthink it and
the more you'll screw yourself over.
Minus the one thing I would say is there always is one guy in the
league who does, like, I think that I'm pretty normal and you
probably agree, PFT, like when we do fantasy drafts, by the time
you get to like round nine, you're literally just drafting guys
you recognize.
And there's one guy in your league who like actually knows
depth charts and they're like, oh, this rookie wide receiver is
going to pop.
That guy usually is really good.
But everyone else, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, it's kind of a waste of time, but we still love it.
What you should do actually, you and all the girlfriends should
make like a fantasy football guide together and explain why you
drafted the people you drafted and then send it to all the guys
in the league and be like, hey, here, if you guys want to get
better, you can take some of our tips.
Also, the real answer to this question is fantasy football is
very stupid because it's always the flukiest thing.
I don't think you can talk shit until like it's an all girls
semifinal or all girls final because what will happen is there
will be some stupid injury or some stupid weather game and the
team that's the best team in the league all year will lose in
the first round of the playoffs and everyone can shit talk you
back.
So wait till it's like all girls in the semifinal then unload
the clip and then they'll get and then knowing guys, they'll
cancel the league forever.
Sup guys, my boyfriend is a huge AWL and we've been together
for about a year.
I love this.
I love this question.
This is guys.
This is guys being dudes that it's finest.
Recently, we moved in together and I've noticed something
peculiar about his cleaning habits.
If he spills a drink or something, he will grab his dirty shirt
off the ground from the night before to mop it up or sometimes
he will take his towel that he just used from his shower, spray
some cleaner on the counters and use the wet towel to clean
the countertops.
I asked him about it and said that I thought it was gross.
All he says is I'm all about efficiency, baby.
Why dirty two things when I can just dirty one?
Am I wrong here or is he?
No, you're wrong.
You're very wrong.
He's got a dirty shirt.
It's not going to, it can't get more dirty.
It's already dirty.
Guys, we think of our clothes in terms of, it's very binary.
It's like, are these jeans dirty or are they not dirty?
Are they jeans?
Are they jeans?
And I've worn them only five days as opposed to six days.
Once something becomes dirty, it can't possibly get more dirty.
It's like getting more pregnant.
It's like, okay, this shirt is dirty.
I'm going to use it because I'm going to wash it anyways.
This guy's just, he's being, you're being unreasonable.
Yeah.
I was going to say like I use socks all the time to clean up
shit.
I will take my clean sock off being like, I know it's going to be,
I'm going to take it off eventually.
So if there's a spill at eight PM at night, sock off, clean it up.
It's way easier than getting up and getting a paper towel.
Yeah.
And then be like, well, I'm going to, I'm not going to use this
sock tomorrow anyway.
So it's dirty.
Have you ever pulled this move?
You spill something on the ground or on the carpet.
It's towards the end of the day.
You're going to take your socks off.
And so you just keep your socks on and then walk across the
stain.
And then use your foot to use your sock to pick the stain up and
then throw your sock.
I'll do that.
Even if it's early in the day, if it's a manageable like spill
with a sock, I'll just, you know, I'm like my own mini Zamboni.
Yeah.
You just walk on it.
Deal with it.
You start, you start, you start like raking at it with your foot.
Yeah.
It's very efficient.
Easy.
Hey, big cat.
I think that's the ultimate.
Like girls, a lot of, a lot of women don't like they would feel
the same way, but it's like, I feel a lot of guys are like, yeah,
now it's just whatever you can do to clean up.
They're just inefficient people.
Yeah.
Not to cast a wide net.
Hey, big cat, PFT, Hank, Jake, Billy and memes.
I dated my now ex-boyfriend for almost three years.
I recently caught him cheating inside to break up with him.
But he has concert tickets he bought for us a while ago.
It is now texting and even DMing me every day to try to convince
me to still go with him.
I honestly hate his guts, but I was really excited for this
concert.
Should I go?
The concert is.
I need to know who it is.
It's got to be.
We need to know who it is.
It's a big, it makes a big difference who's playing in this
concert.
If it's Gaga.
Yeah, you gotta go.
You gotta go.
What about Harry Styles?
But you, there's no way the guy, I guess the guy probably won't
go.
If it's Harry Styles, I think like that, that implies that
you're going to hook up.
Well, if you go to the Harry Styles concert.
But there's no way a guy is like, can we like, let's go to this
Harry Styles concert unless he's trying to go find other chicks.
Well, I was going to say that if you, I've watched enough rom
coms and gotten all my relationship advice from Judd Apatow,
if you go to this concert, there's like a, I'd say 85% chance
you guys get married.
So that's just what's going to happen.
You're going to rekindle in the backdrop of a beautiful
concert and boom, you're married.
Maybe even have a kid.
You might even have a kid that night.
It really depends on what, on what concert it is.
I think like if it's limp biscuit, he just probably wants to go
rock out.
I think he's actually using this concert as, as a lever to get
back in the door in this relationship.
Yeah, no, of course.
No, what you should actually do is you should ask him to, you
be like, I'll go, transfer me the tickets.
I'll meet you there.
Sell the tickets.
No show.
Boom.
Taking new date.
Yeah.
That's diabolical.
What was the Red Hot Chili Peppers?
Yeah, I'd go.
He might want to rock out to that.
Yeah, I'd go.
I'd go.
Alter ego help.
Oh, my boyfriend constantly says he wishes he didn't have such a
plain name.
His name is Mike.
He said this for years and I recently just discovered that he
has created an alter ego of himself on multiple social media
platforms.
He's been calling himself Randall Gibbons online for months.
Now that I found out about it, he even wants me to start calling
him Randy.
I'm worried this is going to leak over to real life and I really
don't want to be dating a Randy.
Send help.
Randall Gibbons.
Is that a person?
I'm looking up Randall Gibbons right now.
No.
I don't think.
There's an RV.
There is an RV repairman named Randall.
Wait.
Gibbons or Gibbons?
GIBB ENS.
ENS.
Oh.
I see Randall Gibbons with an O.
I like this move.
It's in trailer park supervising.
Franny Liden.
Yeah.
Anything.
Yeah.
I mean, you're in for this.
Yeah.
And I got Alter Ego because I hated my name.
That was just like a, you know.
Yeah.
Comptor name.
In the Alter Ego, are they using any sort of anti-Semitic
rhetoric online?
Is this, I'd like to know more about it.
You find out about that.
Yeah.
But Randy's kind of a cool name.
Randy's a cool name.
It's a cooler name than Mike.
It is.
It just is.
Yeah.
Because Mike is a solid, like foundational name, but it's also,
there's a million mics out there.
There's not a lot of Randy's.
If I hear Randy.
Yeah.
If I hear Mike, it's like, okay, Mike drives a Honda Accord.
If I hear Randy, it's like, yeah, he does too, but he's got a
kick-ass spoiler on the mic.
Right.
And if you hear Mike, you're like, yeah, I probably would be friends
with that guy.
Yeah.
Because like it's just Mike.
Mike's a stand-up dude.
Yeah.
Mike is a good dude.
Randy's the guy you call if you need Coke.
Yeah.
Randy is the guy who's like, hey, let's go fuck some shit up.
Yeah.
Let's do some weird shit with Randy.
Randy, you probably had to bail Randy out of jail.
Yeah.
Randy's a wild card.
Mike is going to pay his mortgage on time.
He's going to mow his lawn.
You probably have like a couple, you know, beers with Mike in his
garage every weekend, like just hanging out with Mike.
Randy, listen, Randy doesn't even own property.
He's off the grid.
Randy's definitely showed up at your house a couple of times
after 2 a.m., needing a place to lay low for a while.
Yeah.
Randy is the guy who your wife or girlfriends like, can you stop
bringing Randy around?
And that, you need one of those friends.
We can say Billy.
He could go by Ike.
Ike.
Ike's kind of weird.
Ike is kind of weird.
It's not Mike.
I don't think Mike, Mike should not change their name.
They're, they're Mike's.
Like there's, it's such a good, like it's, it's a total like, you
know, meat and potatoes name.
Yeah.
Ike, I think is a, that's a name for Dwight, isn't it?
Ike.
I don't think Ike is short for Mike.
No, I don't think so either.
I think it's Dwight.
Mikey.
Mikey's cool.
You could just go by Mikey.
I knew a few.
Mikey's grown up.
They're all not actually ones in jail.
I turn or was I seer.
Huh.
Dwight Eisenhower.
Yeah.
He was Ike.
He was Ike.
Yeah.
All right.
Next one.
Last one.
Last one.
Ike Taylor is Ivan.
So I guess it really kind of cool.
It varies.
Ike is very cool.
I always thought a cool, like if you're going to give yourself
a nickname, Randy's kind of cool.
Raul would be sweet too.
Raul's pretty good.
Yeah.
So the last few days I've been in Europe on a family trip and we
stayed at a hotel with an outdoor patio.
We were all casually hanging out with a few drinks mixed in and
we'll call him Rick.
With someone we'll call him Rick.
Rick stood up from our table to go to his room and as he was
calling it a night, his pants fell down and he bent over to
pull up his pants.
At this point it was a hanging sack and full moon in all our
faces.
This dude proceeded to fall backwards off the patio with his
pants still down.
We aided his wife in putting his pants back on.
She and her husband were super nice.
The ambulance came to get him and sent him to a hospital
towards the city center as we were in the countryside.
Before the fact, as we were both families from the U.S., we had
talked about meeting this family back in our home country.
We still have possible intentions of meeting up with this family,
but the husband has no recollection of what happened that
night and who knows what his wife is even thinking.
How should we approach this situation?
I appreciate any ounce of help.
Thanks.
I just love the idea of somebody thinking about themselves,
you know, you go to a foreign country, you're representing
the United States abroad and this is just a perfect way to do
that.
Yeah, this is awesome.
Falling over with your pants down.
It couldn't be more perfect.
Falling over your pants down, your butt hole out and your
balls and then having to go to the hospital because you fell
down naked.
Yeah, this is a total like if he truly doesn't remember it,
I think you just roll with it.
I mean, that's funny.
If he's fine, that's funny.
And if they respond well to it, those are lifetime friends.
You know what I mean?
If they're like, that was a very funny thing that happened.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Those are cool people that you want to hang out with more who
can, who can, you know, not take things too seriously.
Yeah, I don't, I don't mind that at all.
Yeah.
Sounds like a cool guy.
Um, okay.
Good show boys.
Uh, numbers.
Hank, have you ever had, have you ever won this?
I've not.
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Uh, numbers.
17.
69.
I'm 2-0 since I got the number right on Sunday.
81.
26.
56.
81.
Let's go.
49.
What was your number, Hank?
17.
That was a bad pick.
17, huh?
That was a bad pick.
That was a bad pick.
I'm telling you right now it's a bad pick.
It's not going to hit.
You're not even going to be close.
I don't think 17's ever hit.
Yeah.
And you're not even going to be close.
50.
What were you, Max?
56.
He's been on the show for two months and he already has one.
I'm the fucking best.
There we go.
There we go.
Back, girl.
Suck it, Hank.
Holy fuck.
Happy form.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
Yeah, no.
Wow.
There's still memes, right?
Memes?
Yeah, memes doesn't play.
Actually, no.
Yeah, memes is fucking sucks.
No, no, no.
Memes plays like once every month.
Yeah.
That's another example of feeling just being massively superior to Hank.
Yeah, I'm happy for him.
He literally has been, he's part of the show for what are you like a month and a half in
now?
That's cool.
And you've already gotten it before, Hank?
That's great.
Wow.
Congrats, Max.
That's huge.
My heart is racing.
I was not expecting this.
Do you have anybody, anyone you'd like to thank?
Hank, he brought me onto the show.
Yeah.
My boss for a really long time.
Love it.
I appreciate everything he's ever done for me.
Thank you, Hank.
Thank you, Hank.
Not this one.
It's a notch in your coaching tree.
Mm-hmm.
Good job.
Quick wrap-up.
Watch the man in cast curse.
Saquan was on this time and it was undefeated in the regular season.
Oh, yeah.
Good point.
Good point.
And as we mentioned before, the Queen Corgis have found a new groomer.
Yes.
Love you guys.
Prince Andrew.
Thanks for stealing that joke, Bill.
Sucks so.
I used my animal bag.
That was such a joke cock that I had.
It's all right.
I was just like I wrote it down.
It's not an original joke, so I don't care.
Yeah, Billy.
Who'd you steal it from?
I mean, if you couldn't make that joke.
Yeah, no, I agree.
So I wasn't a big deal.
Hank, that sucks for you, bro.
No, it's great.
Also, we're going for three in a row on Thursday.
That's never been done.
Yeah.
Remember when Billy got 69, I got 18 back to back.
Yeah.
He said he retired.
Yeah, forget it.
Who's happened before?
Three in a row.
Love you guys.
Who here will get it besides Hank?
Because he'll never fucking get it.
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