Pardon My Take - Ryan Whitney, NFL Trade Deadline, James Harden Traded Again, CFB Talk And More
Episode Date: November 1, 2023Sports equinox and we start with the NFL trade deadline as well as some MNF wrap up as the Lions head into the bye (00:00:00-00:14:52). James Harden is traded again and is he the GOAT of trade request...s (00:14:52-00:27:21)? Choose your own adventure World Series edition (00:27:21-00:30:44). CFB talk, who's in who's out and Conor Stalions continue to entertain the world (00:30:44-00:49:32). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including our upcoming baseball challenge that will 100 percent lead to injuries (00:49:32-01:07:22). Ryan Whitney joins the show for our NHL preview, Bedard, whats happening with his Oilers, Georgia Bulldogs and more (01:07:22-02:01:17). We finish with Jimbos (02:01:17-02:11:39).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we've got a lot to get to. We got our good friend, Ryan Whitney talking
hockey. We're going to actually do our own version of the sports equinox because we're going to talk
hockey with Ryan Whitney. We got NFL trade deadline. We got our college football talk on Wednesdays
James Hardin traded again
a little choose your own adventure for world series
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There's an about horse to sports.
Welcome to part in my take today is Wednesday, November 1st and the
Washington commanders are doing a fire sale. Yeah, everything must go. I was
so I was trying to engineer a trade of sweat and young to the Niners in
exchange for Kyle Shanahan to come back home. Did not work. Um,
congratulations, big cat. Let me be the first to congratulate you on getting Montess what he's a fine young player
Thank you second round pick. I'm happy. You're happy. I think we both fleece. He started. I think it was a double fleecing a double fleecing. I am um
I don't know what I feel. I
Don't know what I feel. Do I am are you hungry? I'm I'm always hungry. I can always eat
But yeah, I don't know what I feel in the fact that
I like to move because I assume every trade like this,
you assume that there is a deal in place
to resign Montez Sweat.
So everyone's like, why would you trade a second-round pick
for a guy who's gonna be a free agent?
Obviously, if he becomes a free agent,
this is the dumbest deal ever.
I am assuming that Ryan Polis already worked it out with his agent, and there's a plan
in place to sign him long term, which, if that's the case, I like the deal because you probably
aren't going to get a Montez sweat in the second round who can help your defense right
away next year.
But there's also the part of the Bears are in this weird no man's land now where they added
a very good player and put their also trying to lose of the Bears are in this weird nomans land now where they added a very good player
and put their also trying to lose.
The Bears are all in.
This is an all-in move that you just made.
It's a little bit of confusing.
If they had traded Jalen Johnson,
then I would have been fully confused.
I would have been like, what's going on?
Because there was rumors that Jalen Johnson
would get traded, which made no sense.
Because I'm a firm believer in when you're tanking
as a football team, it is important to tank,
but it's also important to hold on to your good player.
Yeah, so you got a good player.
You got a very good young player.
I think he's worth a second rounder.
I was surprised to get a second rounder for our team.
As long as they're resigning.
But I think there's no chance and hell that he just becomes a free agent at the end of
this.
That would make it the dumbest trade ever.
I think it actually would be the dumbest trade besides the Louisiana purchase.
I think this would be by far the trade besides the Louisiana purchase. And Chase Claypool. And Chase Claypool.
This would be by far the worst trade of all time.
But at the very least, you could franchise tag him.
So you at least get a year and a half.
But that also doesn't make sense to spend a second round
pick on a player that's going to play what, 24 games for you.
Yeah, no, he's got a long-term deal.
Then be the first to report that Montez Sweat has signed
a long-term deal with Chicago Bears. And he's happy to Montez Sweat has signed a long-term deal with Chicago Bears.
And he's happy to be here.
And he's happy to be here.
Yeah, no, that was the confusion.
I am a believer in polls, but the confusion was
when I immediately saw the trade and I said to myself,
I like this trade because I do think like
if a guy is proven as an NFL talent,
it's more important than a draft pick.
Yes. Because he's been there, done's more important than a draft pick. Yes.
Because he's been there, done that.
You know he's going to be good.
You're not just going off of measurements and hypotheticals.
But my explanation of how I like the trade, the fact that they're going to sign into a long
term deal and he's better than a second round player that you're going to get.
A lot of people pointed out that it was the exact same reason I use with Chase Claypool.
But he is actually good.
And he's not a big difference.
He's not a head case.
That's a big difference.
And he's played through injuries.
He's been a bright spot on the commander's.
I've been saying for the last what year and a half,
I would rather keep sweat than young.
And then two weeks ago it was like,
fuck it, trade both of them.
So I'm glad they listened to at least what my train of thought
was because it's a full blown fire sale. It's a rebuild. And I think I'm setting a record. I think what my train of thought was because this is a full-blown fire sale.
It's a rebuild.
And I think I'm setting a record.
I think all my teams are rebuilding right now.
That's actually not bad though.
But to have all of us, I was talking to Max earlier.
Like all my teams stink and kind of rebuild.
As much shit as I give Max.
He's got so many fun teams to root for now.
And having expectations to come to James Harden, which we'll get to.
And it now now it's like
picked a baton though every team every team is in a
rebuttum baton baton baton it's very
who you say they have great them everything in a
Tatum no he's thinking of baton Jason to never heard
anyone call baton Jason to tomb I mean it's spelled as
Tatum yeah yeah but he's French yeah there's
but to baton I don't see any.
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But that's what I did.
What did it cost me, everything.
Yeah, but here's how you rank it is a sports fan view.
Obviously, number one, you want your team's competing
for titles, but I think number two is rebuilds.
Number three is no man's land.
And now I get to root for the bears to lose all their game.
So that second round pick basically becomes the first round. Look, we're aligned. Yeah, fully aligned. I like that. I am a believer in polls, except for the bears to lose all their game. So that second round pick basically becomes a first from look we're aligned. Yeah, fully aligned. I like that. I am a believer in
polls, except for the one hang put in the parking lot. But I think that he definitely has
a plan in place to get a full like a big extension for sweat. And then with young going
out to the Niners, I would like to officially announce I'm all in on the Niners now.
I Trent Williams, Chase Young, Kyle Shanahan.
I said this on Monday's show, but if you're a fan of a shitty franchise, the best you
can do sometimes is to just root for your guys to win somewhere.
So I'm going to put a big future on the Niners.
They're my team.
They're friends of the program, Hank.
Yes.
As you know, very well.
Uh, Kittle, all those guys.
Now's the time to buy in on the Niners
because it's by low sell high.
And I like what the Niners did in the fact that
their secondary has been getting torched
and they're like, you know what we'll do,
we'll just make sure the quarterback can never throw.
Yeah, just beef it up even more.
Just run the ball, just defense is gonna be awesome.
Yeah, play with the lead.
You know what this is?
They're making it so they never have to play from behind. Yes.
And just have their defense be nasty as hell.
Yes.
Yes.
So, yeah, the NFL trade deadline, it's ending right now actually as we're taping this.
And that was the Josh Dobbs to the Minnesota Vikings.
Yep.
I feel like Josh Dobbs probably pissed about this because he's got to keep playing football.
And it hasn't
gotten well recently.
Well, the best thing he can hope for is they're back up in Minnesota who's starting this
week.
Right, Jiren Hall.
Jiren Hall, he steps in, plays with me.
Born Nick Mullins when he comes back and then he just gets a chill up in Minnesota.
We do get to watch Kyler Murray.
Yeah.
That will you to assume.
I think Clayton Tune might be starting for the Cardinals this week.
He might be starting this week and then Murray next week this week yeah and then was there any other big trades
uh... the jets just signed roger saffel to the practice squad with the intent to promote
the act of roster who he was on bills who's on bills last year so
town of in people's jones going to uh... the lions to talk yeah who by the way
that was the most maddening uh... money football game ever watch is someone who bet on the Lions
They should have won by 50
It's and they just let the Raiders hang around even the Raiders are dog shit. They're very bad
They're hard to watch Jimmy Garoppolo had two missed passes to
Devonte Adams that would have netted I think like a hundred and sixty yards worth of touchdowns and one
He just threw the ball out of bounds
by like 10 yards the other he overthrew him by five.
Jimmy is uh, I feel like Jimmy's not old Jimmy.
Yeah, he's not old Jimmy.
I have a thing with Devonte Adams.
So it's become everyone is like, oh poor Devonte Adams, he should be a free agent.
I actually liked Robert Mays, he's a very good writer.
He had a great idea, which
would be awesome, that we vote every single trade deadline. And one player just gets, like,
the best player is one player, and the entire league gets released, and the team gets a
draft compensation. And then that player immediately becomes a free agent. So like, Vante Adams
was a free agent right this second, and the Raiders get a draft pick, like they get the
33rd pick. That would rule.
But counterpoint, he would go to the chiefs and we'd be like, what the fuck?
That's probably true.
But Devonte Adams.
So I feel bad that he's playing for a bad team.
But he wanted to go to the Raiders.
Yeah, he made that say that.
He said he wanted to be close to the West Coast with his family.
Yes, he obviously also said he wanted to play with Derek Carr, who then got, who's now
on the Saints.
But it wasn't like Devonte Adams,
like he had a say in how this all went down.
You can make a choice.
Right.
And then your choice is, okay,
you're gonna opt for a big contract somewhere else,
and knowing that the NFL is a business,
you might not be around the same guys forever.
I think there should be an end of season award,
to either like most misused guy,
or guy that you just feel bad for.
Really good player that you feel bad for,
but looked like they were trying their hardest this year.
They get like a vacation somewhere.
I don't feel bad for Devante Adams.
You willingly chose to go to Josh Martinez.
I respect what Devante Adams did after the game,
which was they asked him like,
how are you feeling right now?
And he just said, I don't have words that I can say that won't get me in trouble
So these are my words that I'm gonna say right now because I don't know how else to express myself
other than saying
Fuck this entire organization that happens all time on the show and then we make the person say yeah
And then we get to the bad points then we get then we get to Justin field is wearing sunglasses
I like like the rpnv's or pnv. Yeah, right. This is how we go
So credit to Vonte Adams for for holding a song there the lions by the way
Jameer grit Gibbs is awesome
I love that they like they I think they just decided like this is gonna be Jameer Gibbs coming out party
We're gonna game plan everything he was sensational and the lions have felt like they correct it. Like they should have won by more.
They still have some things to clean up,
but you obviously needed to see a win after that Ravens loss
and especially them going into the by week.
And don't wear those jerseys anymore.
Yeah, they're gross.
The 50 shades of gray ones.
I didn't really like their throwback helmets either.
No, I like the Lions.
The Lions have gray uniforms.
The Lions normal jerseys are their throwback uniforms.
Yeah, I like to haven't changed that much in the last like 30 years, but they got.
There was some bad plays by the lions in the red zone.
Jared threw that one pick six and then his next pass.
I think when I think he threw it out of bounds and tried to hit the mascot with it,
the next throw away that he had.
So the pick six was bad.
Was it was it Reynolds that got tackled and yeah, like,
we made a great catch and then he just fumbled the ball.
There's no physical way that the human body can,
not Reynolds and um, which was running back,
they got tackled and fumbled.
Oh, you couldn't see the replay.
I think that might have been to Mayor Gibbs.
Yeah, where they kept on zooming in
and they're like, is the shin there?
There's a shin.
The way that the human body is built,
there's no chance that he wasn't down,
but they didn't have a camera angle, showing that he was down.
Which is crazy.
So they just, they gave it to the Raiders.
Whatever one, put sensors on everyone.
Yeah, sure.
Like, like, uh, maddened style.
Yeah.
Like, have them all wear those suits during the season,
and we can tell.
Yeah.
I think, maybe we're all wrong about Josh McDaniels.
Maybe he is an offensive genius,
but maybe there's just no players that are good enough
to play football at the level that Josh McDaniels expects in order for his
All his offense only works if it's Tom Brady and Randy Moss running it and if it's anybody else
Then it just looks like the biggest nightmare you've ever seen so this is Josh McDaniels is actually like Van Gogh
Yeah, we've only given him a pack of crayons. I think in in 200 years
We're gonna look back and be like, Josh McDaniels
was so far ahead of his time. A misunderstood genius. A hundred percent. The most misunderstood
genius, because that guy sucks. He sucks. He sucks. He sucks. He sucks. All right, anything
else with trade deadlines or NFL, uh, Max, you said that the Eagles did nothing? Um, like
Kevin Byard. All right. I was, I was, I was seeing if you were going to catch that. Yeah. the Eagles did nothing? Like Kevin Bired?
All right, I was seeing if you were gonna catch that.
Yeah, yeah, you got it.
I was hoping for more.
I was definitely hoping for more.
Max walk by and he just goes, Patrick Soutain's gonna be an Eagle.
That was, why didn't I believe that?
I was just, you were like, you're like,
what's gonna happen?
I was like, maybe Patrick Soutain Eagle.
Nothing ever happens at the NFL trade deadline.
That's the one common denominator.
Like the big news that we had this year was,
like two defensive ends getting traded.
Yeah, that was it.
That was actually the most,
this was probably the most that's happened
in a trade deadline in a while
because it was,
the commanders were like, we're trading everyone.
And it wasn't just,
it was Josh Harris had a big day today.
Josh Harris won, I'm gonna say it.
He won, he won the sports equinox.
Yeah.
Because he traded sweat and young, got a second
and a third round pick for him,
which is better than some people thought that we would get.
Does it make you a little bit upset
that young went for a third round or?
No, Chase Young only has one move.
Yeah, because I think that he's staying.
I think sweat's better.
Yeah, I do too.
So he traded those two guys
and then he also traded James Hardin.
So big day for Josh Harris.
Huge day.
Apparently he got on the phone with Steve Ballmurne
was like, please, please take my man.
Yeah, so need you to do this.
So are you happy that James Harden is out of your life, Max?
James Harden by the way was traded at two in the morning,
probably the biggest win for Wode's ever.
Where do you think James Harden was
when he found out?
Strip Club.
Strip Club for sure.
I know where Wode's was.
They brought out like a bottle service for him
in the flashing lights that just said,
you are an LA clipper.
I know where Wage was because I want to give credit to Wage
because he's got a rivalry with Shams
and Wage getting up there in age.
This was the pinnacle of Wage.
This was Wage being like asserting himself,
I still got it.
He dropped like a 12 minute podcast today. so I listened on the way to work.
Wojge said that he was at the airport, at Newark Airport, getting ready to fly to LA, and
someone told him, don't get on that flight.
And he sat in the airport until like two in the morning, then went home and took a shower,
and then went and took a flight like the next morning.
Because he didn't want to miss it.
He's like, I didn't want to be on a plane
for when this news came down.
That is, he gets journalists of the year.
It's commitment.
I mean, could you imagine anything worse than sitting at the gate
of your plane ready to go and then being like,
nope, I have to now sit in the airport waiting
for this news to drop and then go home
for 10 minutes take a shower and then to get on another plane.
If you were a wadge, was there like a small part of you
that was like, man, what if, what if this flight crashes?
Yeah.
And I was told not to get on it.
Cause James Harden, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But wadge serves a credit.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Good for wadge.
He absolutely deserves it.
And then Shams woke up and I think he had to like touch on Shams. Shams is like six hours late on the credit. You got it. Two in the morning. Good for woe. He absolutely deserves it. And then Shams woke up.
And I think he had to like,
touch on Shams.
Shams is like six hours late on the news.
Yeah, Shams is never gonna sleep again.
Yeah.
He's gonna be coming to Somnac.
You can't do that.
Like woe's just,
he basically said,
hey, I ain't going anywhere.
This is my block.
James Harden individually has done so much
for woe's career just with all the trades.
Yeah.
And trade demands that he's made over the years.
So that was my question is,
is James Harden,
like he's not the goat,
but he's got goat tendencies
because he somehow has gotten traded now three times
where everyone's like he's got no leverage,
he's lost all his leverage.
He deserves at least respect
for being how bad of like a teammate and employee is, right?
Yeah, like he's the goat at that.
And he also eats everything like a goat. I think that he's done a great job of forcing his way out of like a teammate and employee is, right? Yeah, like he's the go to that. And he also eats everything like a goat.
I think that he's done a great job
of forcing his way out of teams in new and creative ways.
This one we, everyone was like, no, he's got no leverage.
Darryl Mori will never trade him.
He'll always wait for the deal.
What are we, one week into the season?
His leverage was like, that guy's a liar.
I'm gonna go to China, put on a basketball camp,
and call my boss a liar.
And that's the last move
that I have.
And it worked.
And Dale and Mori probably was like,
oh, Tyree's Maxi's playing really well,
and this team could be good,
and you know what, the only thing that could ruin it
is having James Harden hang out in their locker room.
Yeah, so I have a smart move by that.
I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah.
Right now, LA Clippers, they've got Kauai.
Yeah.
Super team. They've got Westbrook. Super team. They've got playoff
P Paul Joyce, who's by the way getting back on his bully shit this year. And now they add the final piece and James Harden. My
question for you is how many balls are there? There's only one ball. There's just one ball. This team is loaded. This team is hilarious. They need to bring John
Wallback. I can't wait to watch this team win one playoff series,
have all VSPNB watch out for the Clippers,
and then lose like four to one against the Nuggets.
I don't even know if they're gonna win one playoffs.
They might win one.
They're giving one just because I want to see it for the Discord.
They're the funniest team in the NBA by far.
I don't think that there's a close second either.
And I don't think West working hard and like each other anymore, didn't.
Remember when they played briefly again? Was it with the Rockets? I don't think West working hard and like each other anymore, didn't remember when they played briefly again?
Was it with the rockets? I can't keep track. I would be shocked if they like each other. Yeah. All right, tell you what
They'll probably like say all the right things do all the right things to be like, oh, this is title town watch out
We got a super team and then things will blow up within probably a month or two. would imagine. Yeah. It does feel like, I mean, Playoff P is basically
the guy that you need to like, he's got to be the glue guy.
Yeah.
I think he does, because you have Kauai who,
we know his history, he's a robot,
but the robot sometimes malfunctions
and then Westbrook and Harden, yeah, Playoff P
has to sit everyone down and be like, I'm the captain.
But as a robot, do you think that Kauai is kind of built for this type of situation?
Where if you are a computer program, you don't care who's entering the code.
Yeah. You don't care who's pushing the buttons.
You just take the input and then you do your thing.
Yeah, no, Bomber just has to like go into the mainframe and say,
pass ball to James Hardin now.
Yeah, or blue wise, like, okay, I got it.
Blue screen to death on Kauai.
bolt James Harden now. Yeah, or blue wise, like, okay, I got it.
Blue screen of death on Kauai.
The other big part of this trade and a hilarious part
is your guy, Max, for Con Corquemez.
You love him, right?
He's fine.
Corquemez is the direct opposite of James Harden
because he has now asked for a trade from the Sixers
three times and denied every single time.
So in 2018 he asked for a trade because you can get playing time.
They're like nah, we're not going to do it.
In 2023 last winter, January he asked for a trade.
They're like nah, we're not going to do it.
You're quirk as you're here forever. This time he asked for a trade and both the Clippers and Sixers said no, that's tough
I
What's going on with this guy? I don't know but you got you got to see like hard and getting traded and you're like
Why would you do that for me? I want everything for me like I don't think I've ever seen a guy
Just keep asking for trades and the six are like he after the 2018 he resigned with the sixers
This poor guy. I've also never seen a bench player
As for trade so many like it and never seen a guy asked for a trade and both sides say no
I guess he should be happy to the sixor said no because that means they want him
But the clippers were like no we don't want him so he set up the trade
He wanted he was like throw me in this James Harden trade in both sides like no. Thank you
No, you're too old you will blow up this deal if you're you're in that's tough but that's I mean the poor guy
so I'm starting to think more about the clippers losing the first round take James Harden we
use on the nets he wasn't he wasn't the primary ball handler right yeah and they had the the
season where he carry got hurt and then the game against game seven
against the box in the second round. The Kevin Durant almost single handly got them there, but
James Hardin had also gotten hurt that series. He was playing okay up until that. We're also
forgetting that James Hardin the playoffs is not he doesn't want to play anymore. What if James
Hardin wants to go home? What's a good game? Yeah, but he wants Max has to think about James Hardin.
He does not care about winning championships. And I'm not saying
this is a bad thing about James Harden. I'm saying it's somewhat relatable where you get paid
less money in the playoffs. There's no real incentive to win unless you're a guy that
cares about winning. James Harden, I think does not care about winning NBA titles. He just
wants to go home. He what he's done his bid, his season's over. He fulfilled his contract that year.
Now he wants to go hang out in party.
Like I get it.
I get why James Horton does it.
I feel like most professional athletes
that are that good are not wired like that.
They're wired to want to compete and win.
But James Horton, I feel like is just like,
you know what, I'd rather just go hang out on my couch.
It would rule if James Horton was awesome
in the mid-season tournament.
Because it's not at the end of the year.
Yeah. And he was just like the greatest midseason tournament player of all time
He might be because those that counts as a regular season game. Yeah, yeah, it's right in the middle of season
You don't have to worry about getting on a uh, uh, yacht. He's good. So you're good. You're happy obviously max
You got some you got flexibility too. You got you got picks. You got pick so somebody comes available at some point Yeah, you got picks. You got picks, so somebody comes available at some point.
Yeah, you got batom.
The only thing I woke up and I was upset
because it was kind of like a strong arm of like,
Dara Mory was like, I'm not gonna trade him
without Terrence Man and the clippers were like,
well, we're not giving up Terrence Man.
And I don't like not winning that battle.
You got fused.
Like at the end of the day
You got four picks. I guess you got a couple depth pieces
Roco's not the player that he won't that he once was but you got a bully more says a bully. Yeah, you gotta
You know, he I think that's all he does you that's fine like you got like that's that's an intimidating lot of if you can put Pat Bev and
And more I think it's Marcus Morris on the floor.
The goal is no to put the ball in the hoop.
Yeah, but like you like some intimidation.
Mark is pulling like a hundred years old.
Yeah, but he is a bully.
I bully Max.
He's a dog, but now you got two dogs.
Max, you're building a football team for basketball.
That's fine.
And you got assets if someone else becomes available
in the middle of the season,
more you can go make another play.
And you have time to like if it waited too long and then somebody came up
and then you didn't have any assets then you wouldn't have any have any more moves left
in the chamber. Sixers could be back and Tyrese Maxxies MVP. That's the end of the the the whole
story is that Tyrese Maxxie is playing like an all star right now. But you already have an MVP.
I know, but like on your team right now, what if you could have two?
No, you only have one.
Well, you could have one last year and then one this year.
Right, but last year was kind of was he really the MVP?
Yeah, he was.
Okay.
The answer is yes.
Uh, the real test is it's always like coming from your direct opponent.
Like, does that are you more fearful of the sixers this year, Hank?
Or would you be no would you be more fearful and live in
in port zingus heaven if they still have if they still have
jam charton would you be more fearful what
and it's got no rings you say two thousand eight
uh... ho ho ho ho ho he just farted on the big three
i was a freshman high school he just farted on it yeah i'm just saying like
you're you you you're acting like the Celtics are the 16 you have one sheet yet
Sixers haven't won anything neither of the Celtics. Hmm. Okay, but the question was are you scared of the six are you more scared of them now than you were
24 hours. Well, he wasn't scared of them 24 hours ago. So how could he be more
You can't be less scared. No way you can't be less. It can be the same.
James Harden won a game for them in the playoffs.
I can't to sell the possession.
Give me his less scared.
But Doom is not gonna do that.
The four picks that you're probably gonna
meant to nothing are not gonna do that.
But it's not like,
it's not like one game one for them last year.
Newer life.
You can't do this after everything bad
that you say about James Harden.
You can't go, you can't say like James Harden sucks. James Harden sucks. And then you you were like, you can't do this after everything bad that you say about James Harden. You can't go, you can't say like,
James Harden sucks, James Harden sucks.
And then you now are like,
well, James Harden, what did you game for you guys last week?
But like, I'm less scared because.
You're not, you're not less scared.
The chance to beat us in a, you know.
But he was never gonna play.
I think Hank's less scared, I believe him.
I believe him too, he seems less scared.
He's not though.
He seems like Hank was terrified yesterday
And yeah, poor thing is is the cell this are unbelievable. I got home last night. It was like 620
It's kind of weird central time getting home. I forget. I'm like oh, yeah, Celtics are on
I should the games already on it was already over first quarter wizards well
They're up like Jordan pull 40 points. Jorn pole just shoots up everything. Yeah, the wizards. Well, Jordan pulled 40 points. The most hilarious bass. Jordan pulled just shoots up everything.
Yeah. The wizards, I mean, it's obviously the wizards poverty
franchise, but you don't have to say that part of it. You can just say
Jordan pool is Jordan pool is the perfect player to have on your
team if you're trying to tank to have him as like the guy on your team.
It doesn't get any better than that. Are you scared of Tyree's
Maxi? No. Why? What's there to be scared of? He's he's
emerging as one of the as one of the best cards in the NBA.
Do you have anyone emerging?
Now he has the opportunity that that back court is his.
Oh, good boy.
I feel like the last year and a half, Max,
he's like trying to make Fetch happen.
He's like Tyrese Maxi in the NBA.
No, this is real.
No, he is playing incredible.
This is real. I know he has started
He's a cop right here the week. Yeah of the week
First week there's only one week hang the better week hang the banner
One week the MVP who's giving out today he would win it that that's actually fact that or at least in the Eastern conference
Yeah, hey, sir conference player of the week MVP Hank was not scared until he said he's the player of the week
And now like I saw I saw some fear creep actually got to go back to the drawing board on that no no any time you do a player of the
week it's it's not great but that's all that's all you can base off of right what we have seen so far
this year Tyrese Maxx he's the best player in the Eastern Conference factor fiction probably
fiction fact no one Eastern conference you want to eat that that is fact you're wrong Hank weak
No, he's circumference. He won't eat that that is fact. You're wrong, Hank weak. Um, okay
Resul Doug goes by the way. He's got traded to the bills. That's good pickup for the bills. Yeah, they need he's a corner back Yeah, okay little baseball choose your own adventure world series going on there were people who are upset at me for watching money
I football
I was also watching the world series, but the world Series is going on. Rangers Diamondbacks, choose your own adventure.
PFT GO.
Diamondbacks win.
Garcia's got an oblique.
He does.
He's not going to play tonight.
Is that official?
No, I'm just making this up right now, but this is two zero and a venture.
Yep.
He's not going to play.
Doesn't, doesn't want to win.
Real game will play through it.
Dan Heron cooks up something special.
I think so too. I'm going to say it's a shootout. Oh, yeah. I think it's going to be 10, eight
diamond backs. Okay. Game for 10, eight diamond backs. If anything crazy happens, we will
record something. If anything crazy happens. There's like a known something. Well, yeah, you'll
know because we'll put it in. There's like a no no no no because we'll put it in
There's like a no hitter in the world series that that would be crazy. That would be crazy
It's been almost a year since that's happened. I think it's gonna be eight one d-backs. I think fam goes yard twice
Whoa
Longoria has two hits whoa Hank I'm gonna go
six to five in the 14th.
What?
Walk off the wall.
Wait, put that might be crazy.
We might, I don't wanna stay up that late.
Who wins?
Debacks.
Debacks.
Wolf, it's a walkoff, it's Debacks.
True, yeah.
It's on me.
Walkoff Debacks.
I knew it was there at home.
Yeah, you knew that.
You've been tuned in.
Is the roof open? No. It's closed in. They've been closing it, I think. Yeah, you know that you've been tuned in is the roof open
No, it's closed. They've been closing it. I think okay. I don't like that. Yeah, I don't need open and also the
Dehumidifier thing they did with the dime max. I don't like that either
They did a few years ago everyone stopped hitting home runs. I don't like it
I did I saw Randy Johnson throughout the first pitch yesterday. That's cool. It was very cool to Luis Gonzalez to Luis Gonzalez
It was wild. I was hoping so hard for a bird. Yeah.
No, no, no. That would have rocked a lot of trouble.
I kind of forgot that the Yankees had a three to two lead going into the
ninth of that game. I thought it was tied.
Well, I watched a old video. Young Kim. No, you tried
about 2001. Yeah, no, they should have won that world.
They were up for it. Two. Yes.
Yes. Going into the ninth.
To the 9-11. Yes.
Should we have the robot umps discussion?
There's some bad calls yesterday. Yeah, there were but I always think they even amount
I I saw someone was saying that there is the technology they're working on that you can you can basically tap your helmet
And they can go check it real quick so it doesn't slow down the game which I'm in favor of the immediate review for
Yeah, the immediate review, but then I don't know. I like the human element of umpiring.
I do like getting mad at UPS.
And I also like getting, you know, you start a game,
it's like, okay, this is the strike zone.
Now we gotta adjust, you know,
it's not uniform across the board.
It does add to the game'smanship.
If you're like planning out how are you gonna attack
somebody at the plate and you know that this one up
has like a very wide strike zone, then you can pitch them according.
That's not the Atlanta Braves once so many games.
Yeah.
They had Eric Greg going pitches like three inches off the plate every day.
So Maddox would get up there and just be like, okay, backdoor cutter.
Yeah.
I'm a firm believer that if you can add replay without slowing down the game whatsoever,
which is basically impossible, then I'm for it. Mm-hmm
But it's impossible. Yeah, I do like the idea that you can get mad at somebody and blame a loss on somebody. Yeah, that's all right
Is it you take it away then you don't have anything to get mad at all right? Uh, let's talk some college football before we do that
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Okay, let's talk some college football.
The college football playoff rankings are coming out.
We are taping this earlier, it's Halloween.
So I gotta go do Halloween with my kids.
I don't think there's, the first rankings are always funny
because people freak out.
There's still so much football left to be played.
If I had to take a guess, I would think that
Ohio State will be one and there'll be Georgia
and Michigan in a two, three.
I don't know, they probably Georgia, then Michigan,
and then four would be Florida State,
five would be Washington.
Would be my guess.
Ohio State only because they do probably have the best
resume on paper with a Penn State win
and a Notre Dame road win.
Yeah, so that's probably gonna be the only debate.
I think it might be Georgia, but I wouldn't be shocked.
Yeah, I don't think Ohio State's better than Georgia.
I'm just saying resume.
They put these rankings out,
knowing that people will get mad about numbers.
And then there's a lot of season left
and they know that if a certain team,
like if Georgia beats Alabama,
then Georgia's probably gonna become
the number one team in the entire country.
Right, right.
And yeah, it could very well be that Ohio State,
it could just go exactly as the AP Top 25
of the coaches pole where it's Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida State, Washington, straight down in a row.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do that as well.
I just think that if you're just looking at resumes, Ohio State having that win at Notre
Dame and against Penn State is better than what any win Michigan's done so far.
And Georgia, yeah.
And Georgia. Yeah. I want to see simulated brackets for next year. That's what so far and Georgia. Yeah, and Georgia.
Yeah, I wanna see simulated brackets for next year.
That's what I wanna see.
It's like, what would the matchups look like right now
if we were doing a 12 team playoff,
give me simulated bracket.
You're saying this year for next year?
This year for next year.
It's next year, this is the last one.
This is the last 14 playoff.
Thank God we're gonna get to the 12 team playoff.
I'm excited though. And
I, I think I, I talked about in this show. I, I did officially switch my Washington future
to Oregon before last weekend. I do think Oregon, what they did in Utah on Saturday.
Like that doesn't happen to Utah. They bullied. Yeah. They bullied. Oregon, it's weird because
even though they lost to Washington, they look like they're the best team in that conference.
Right.
Washington has had, what, is it two weeks in a row where they've had these wins that feel
like holy shit, I can't believe we got out of there with the win.
Arizona State at home and Stanford on the road.
They both were like one score games in the fourth quarter and it feels like something's
a little off.
They have a few big games coming up.
I though this weekend coming up, obviously,
everyone's going to talk about Bama LSU, which fun trivia factor ready for this. The last
so Jaden Daniels, obviously beat Nick Sabin last year when Alabama went to Baton Rouge.
Who is the last quarterback to beat Nick Sabin two years in a row? Two years in a row.
Same quarterback two years in a row. Joe didn't do it.
So.
Marcus Russell.
Who else is Arab?
Tiba.
Matt Flynn.
Cam Newton.
Oh, we're not close.
We're not close.
The bad one.
Aaron Murray.
Nope.
His name was Drew Breeze at Purdue.
Wow.
So when he was at a pretty great state.
Yes. When Sabin was at. Yes. Okay. Wow, so when he was at Michigan State, when Sabin was at, okay.
Isn't that crazy?
That is wild, yeah.
So, Jayden Daniel's looking to be that second guy
to beat Nick Sabin two years in a row.
That's shocking.
I guess if you're a good college quarterback
and you happen to be good enough to beat Nick Sabin,
you're probably gonna go to the NFL.
Or you'll come back and Nick Sabin will beat you.
Yeah.
Because he doesn't lose to teams twice in a row. Or next evening will have moved to a different school. Yes.
But yeah. So obviously everyone's talking about Bama,
LSU this weekend, which would be a great game.
I'm pumped for the big 12 this weekend.
Yes. The big 12 is going to...
Big 12 is the funnest conference in the country.
It was basically the entire big 12 look, like garbage in September.
And now all these teams are playing incredible ball.
And you have Kansas State going to Texas.
You have Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State was dead in September.
And now they're back playing good ball.
Like Kansas beating Oklahoma last week.
It's just utter chaos in the big 12.
And now we have a weekend where we're gonna kind of
try to figure everything out
Who did Oklahoma State lost to a like a Sunbelt school in week one, right?
Oklahoma State. I don't know. I know Iowa State's also in that category because Iowa State is foreign one in the conference
They lost to Ohio. Everyone Matt Campbell was getting yelled at by fans. Yep. They lost to
Oklahoma State lost to South Alabama week three.
Yeah.
So my only qualm with the big 12 schedule this weekend is Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.
I know you're gonna say as I agree.
They're playing it at 3.30 in the afternoon, Eastern.
Yep.
That game, Bedlam should be played at night.
It should be played at night.
I say it every year.
Yep.
The sky in Stillwater, Oklahoma is the darkest sky in the world.
It's neon black.
The atmosphere at Bedlam at nighttime is crazy.
That game should be at night.
This is the last time they're going to do Bedlam for a long time, right?
In the foreseeable future and we're getting it in the afternoon.
It stinks.
That's an abomination to God.
I saw it and I was, I had the exact same feeling of you.
I got instantly bummed out. I was like, why is this game a 230 that sucks makes no sense
But shout out to Kansas. Okay. Do you think that was the the win against Oklahoma?
That might have been the biggest win in the history of Kansas football they well that win against
recesses
I'm not counting that because because you're before Kansas didn't have very good team their team is like their teams good this year
Yeah, well, they and they're doing with their backup quarterback who stayed
He lost the job in state. I think he's a six-year
Beer, I believe his name is that was awesome. They had not beat no Coleman forever
I don't even know the last time they beat Oklahoma. I'm actually looking up because I think it's something insane
But yeah, that was an awesome awesome game. Lance Leipold is an awesome coach.
Yeah. He won a million games at white, white water.
He went to Buffalo.
Now it can.
This, but yeah, that the big 12 is fun.
Yeah.
There's just a bunch of teams that are all kind of was kind of written
off for various reasons, poor play injuries.
And everyone's like, oh, it's going to be Texas.
It's going to be Oklahoma.
And now we get a weekend where it's like,
it could very well not like I could see Oklahoma,
state beating Oklahoma, I could be Kansas State beating Texas,
it could all up in.
Do we know what's happening with Quinn-Uers?
Is he on track to play this weekend?
I think that he is, right?
I believe so.
All right, this is the longest.
Okay, as of right now, Malik Murphy is in line
to start against Kansas State.
They killed BYU, but he's not as good as Quinn Uers. It had been the first time Kansas
had beaten Oklahoma since 1999. So this century, that's crazy. But, but yeah, Quinn Uers being
out against Kansas State is a big deal. Malik Murphy, he's playing right now for the transfer
window, for the portal. Yeah. That's what he's playing for.
Because it's weird they just don't like, I get it.
Arch is a big name, but like, I feel like no one's even talked about it.
Like, it's not even floated out there that he could potentially.
Oh, it was last week.
It was?
Yeah.
So he was in line to take some snaps.
He's ready to go.
But like Malik Murphy, I still pay attention to like Austin Sports Talk radio because I listened to it for like 10 years
So I'm not a long-horns fan, but I am a fan of the takes around the program
It's like endlessly fascinating to me the stuff that goes on at the University of Texas
Murphy a lot of people were saying like was better than Quinn yours when he got on campus
And they've been asking to see Malik Murphy
I think what we've seen is that Murphy's not as good
But if he plays well this weekend, then next year, there's going to be some football
team that's going to be very, very excited to have Malik Murphy.
Yeah. And Kit Kansas State's really good. They're, they're, they're successfully pulling
off a two quarterback offense. Will Howard and Avery Johnson. I love that. And it's, they're
just a good team. I, yeah, the big 12 is the most fun. Conference, I think it will be going forward too,
because you have all these weird teams
that are getting added, who have been added.
But it's a big weekend coming up.
It's a big weekend coming up.
I feel like we're going to get, you know,
if LSU can somehow take down Alabama and Tuscaloosa,
they're now very much back in the picture.
And then the entire big 12 is going to get figured out.
You have the USC Washington game, which should have like a billion points because USC they were very
close to being like this team is fully quit and I didn't really like I there was a quote
afterwards Caleb Williams. I don't think their team is quit. I feel like their defense is
quit. I think maybe their whole team like date., I mean, their defense maybe hasn't quit
because they've always been bad.
So they're just playing the same.
Yeah, Lincoln Riley's kind of a genius
because he can kind of just get into a situation
where he will never be on the hot seat,
but his defensive coordinator will always be on the hot seat.
Yeah, Alex Grinch.
Kale Williams said after the cow game,
I had a few mistakes in the Notre Dame game,
dumb passes that I threw last week, I had a few mistakes in the Notre Dame game, dumb passes that I threw.
Last week I had a 70% completion or something like that.
This is talking about the game against Utah.
So I had one off day in the past three years.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
Maybe that's what Ryan Day said, too.
He had just maybe just be like, you know what,
we win as a team, we lose as a team.
Yeah.
And now I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I love the report that he's trying to get equity in an NFL team that drafts them.
Yeah.
That's never going to happen.
Never going to.
If the chiefs weren't going to give Patrick Mahomes equity with his long term deal, I think
the NFL stepped in and said this can't happen in general.
But yeah, for a rookie to come in and become the owner of a team, we'd be ridiculous.
But my favorite story in college football just got another wrinkle.
Oh, it's kind of stallion story.
Yes, this, this might be it's like this.
And then the pole assassin story from Texas from a couple years ago at Halloween.
My two favorite stories in the history college football.
Connor stallions was, oh, you got to throw in our guy, the shark fucker.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Macawing. Well, yeah, McWingwell.
He's involved in this too.
And Bobby Patrino, just Bobby Patrino, just him.
Putting on the every neck brace.
Everything with him.
I mean, Hugh Freeze coaching from the hospital bed.
Yeah, college football is the worst.
It's just always the liver.
It's good.
So, Connor Stallions was photographed,
or there was a still shot of him during the broadcast
on the sidelines of the CMU Michigan State game.
Allegedly it's him. There was also one for a few years ago.
Yeah.
And he's dressed up.
He's wearing sunglasses.
He's got a little go to go and got his hat pulled down real low.
He's wearing what appears to be a sideline pass like a pass that you would get if you
were attending the game as a fan, right?
Maybe not as a coach.
And he's hanging out on the sidelines allegedly trying
to steal Michigan State signs, maybe passing Michigan
State signs along to the CMU staff because he does have,
I think there are two coaches on CMU right now
that he coached with in his past
or that he was around in his past.
So the story continues to get funnier and funnier
and funnier to the point where it honestly wouldn't shock me if
Stallions was like Jim Harbaugh's
Illigent-em-it son that he had 30 years ago and kept secret for so long just to bring along with the sole mission of
Making Michigan football national chance. That's exactly what it is
He so the only issue with the the picture is I think the guy has hair in this picture.
Connor Stallion's doesn't.
Either way, it's very funny that now Connor Stallion's is Kaiser Soze.
Every fan base that hates Michigan will see Connor Stallion's in every picture they look
at.
He was here.
Even so, the report about Ryan Dees' brother, who I think he was in the even so the report about Ryan Day's brother,
who I think he was in the CIA
and I think he does have a private investigating firm,
but I think a Michigan fan just started the rumor
that he was the one investigating the whole thing.
Like I don't think that's actually factual.
I love that.
And so all of these stories,
you could just say Connor Stallion did this,
that where was he on January 6th?
We don't know.
We don't know at all.
Right, he's crazy.
It's such a funny, and the story's gonna flip flop
like 17 more times.
Yeah, there was somebody made the point that,
so CMU said that they're investigating,
whether or not that was him on the sidelines.
It seems to me that if CMU saw the picture
and recognized him as a member of their staff, they would just
be like, no, that's our coach.
Like we, I know exactly who that guy is.
You could look it up.
The investigation should probably take no longer than 30 minutes to determine.
You'd be like, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say,
say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, fact that they haven't said that tells me it probably is. And I just I love the story. So I'm just glad that Connor Stallions, I'm glad that he developed an insane fixation on
Michigan football instead of politics or religion. Yes. Because this would be very bad for
the world if he wasn't just a college football for or like if he was like in cell, it could
have been very bad. Yeah., this could have gone so far.
We should thank our lucky stars every day
that Connor Stallion chose to wrote his 500-page manifesto on college.
Right.
We also have had Jim Harbaw finally spoke
and he gave some great Jim Harbaw quotes.
So this is one of them he said,
Jim Harbaw says Michigan football is like field corn instead of a house plant.
He said, quote, house plants, they have their functions.
They can be beautiful in the home.
They can bring great beauty and value to a home.
But the field corn just drop a seed in a crack of a sidewalk
and it will burrow down and come up with energy.
Then rise up in a stock like fashion and start producing.
So that is what Michigan football is right now.
He also said, I just channeled my inner William Wallace
when it comes to keeping a one track mind focusing
on football instead of everything else on the field.
Yeah, that all checks out for Jim.
I like the fact that he's become a corn expert,
at least a field corn expert.
My theory is that Harbal knows everything
about Michigan football.
Yes. at one point
He probably looked up what the word maze went because they're the maze and blue
Found out it had something to do with corn and then did a deep dive on corn
Realize that corn is gritty can grow anywhere. He's like okay. That's why that's our color. Yes
That's how come he knows so much about corn. Yes. Yes. So he's, the whole thing is great. The story is incredible.
We also had the conclusion, the sad conclusion
to the race of 325 with Brian Forens
is going to continue coaching the rest of this year
and then he's been fired slash is walking away.
I don't like that.
I don't like the pre-firing.
I don't like anything.
I don't like it.
What if the great tofu he just ripped off
a bunch of scores here?
What if they just, what if they average 50 points of game
for their last game?
So like, with that, it's in his contract, right?
He can say, hey, we won this many games.
Yeah.
I brought my average up.
And if he shows that he's improving at the end of the season,
then his dad might just be like, yeah, you know what?
He's, he's really come into himself recently.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's, it is sad to see because I was I was actually hoping that Iowa was
going to somehow make against all odds make the college football playoff averaging like
12 points a game.
It would have been great.
It would have been great.
Uh, okay.
So college football this weekend is going to tell us a lot very excited for it.
Uh, let's what you got one last thing.
Yeah.
One last thing. We have a new record speaking Viola football,
the lowest over under total.
Yes.
And the history of college football.
At Riggly.
At Rigglyfield, I might go.
You should.
I'm gonna bet the over.
I bet the over when it was the previous lowest total
against Minnesota.
I think it was 30 and a half.
It was 32 and a half.
32 and a half.
This is 29 and a half.
29 and a half.
It's Northwestern Iowa.
I think I have to go to the skater.
What is this game?
It's Saturday.
You want to go?
Yeah.
You want to go?
It's also over.
They finally, you want to talk to Indiana to bet it.
Yeah, I'll drive to Indiana and bet it.
You will.
That's the only part.
I'm going to Northwestern.
This is 20-minute drive.
This is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever done.
And I flew to Qatar for like 16 hours for a tie.
Yeah.
I mean, this is Dumber.
This game is gonna rock, and they did finally figured out
I was, I'm rocking with Iowa though.
The best was when they first did a game,
at Riggly, a college game at Riggly,
they did it like maybe 10, 12 years ago,
and they didn't measure the end zones correctly,
and they had to play the game going one way.
I think they should I think they should play this game going one way. Yeah, it would be awesome. Yeah, this is about pick sixes.
They you can pick six it, but you can't the offense starts going one way. That's it. Yeah, like a delayed penalty in hockey.
Yeah, I mean they they painted the lines and everything and they're like wait the outfield
wall goes
right up to the end zone line.
This is a problem.
So what would happen if you intercept their pass?
They would flip it.
No, but you return, you're like on the interception return, you're running all the way down the
field, somebody catches up behind, you forces a fumble and it rolls like two yards into the
end zone.
Yeah, I guess it would still kind of roll out kind of because it would hit the wall so they'd
roll it out. I'm trying to think that's bad for the over though. Yeah, but I think they
have figured out they've played games at Rigglys since that they have figured out but that was one
of the funniest things ever to play a game going one way. Yeah, they should do it for this game.
Game of the year. They should also play this game like on a 60 yard field. Yeah, or just give us
some more points or just not at all. Yeah, not at all. Okay, let's get to our hot sea cool throne
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Hatsi cool throughout my Hatsi is the brew crew Chris Prasad. Yeah. He was on TV today talking about the James Harden trade
and he referred to him using the R word.
Mm-hmm.
And to be fair, he had a first cousin
who was developmentally disabled.
Correct.
So it kind of gets a pass on that.
And Stu Feiner was one who broke the story.
Yes, Stu Feiner was one that tweeted the clip
and then all the media outlets picked it up
Suspended fire I think he's it is what where does that where does that word fall into the I think he's okay punishment right? It's kind of like the five-second rule with food
He said his apology within the same segment. I think he's okay
Like if he had not said anything and then he had to assume apology the next day it becomes a bigger story
He said his apology within 45 seconds to say
Like the ball was still no suspension no suspension. I don't know. I don't know he's gonna get it
I think he knew he didn't like
He kind of wound up for it. Yeah, I mean it was it was I don't think it's a true it was an intrusive thought in his first
Yeah, he literally immediately was like the way on And his first cousin, yeah. He literally immediately, who's like,
I think on my feet, first cousin.
Who by the way passed away.
Yes.
A month or two months ago, he didn't know.
He didn't know when it was.
He was like a month, two months.
Oh damn.
But as far as an excuse goes for why you said it,
that might be the wildest reasoning behind why,
that word slipped out of your mouth.
Yeah.
It's like, no, somebody that I love very deep,
was called Michael.
Yeah, I was at his funeral.
And we were dropping him left and right.
Like, you found that.
What?
Go ahead.
If you say, sorry, right away, you're okay.
Yeah, he's like, no.
Don't do that. No, no, no, no, their time with how much. They were remembering him being like,
yeah, he was so much like James Harden.
Well, it was actually,
I think he was saying it to Nick Wright
because Nick Wright had a take you disagreed with.
Yeah.
So he went like,
Oh, old school.
Are you?
Are you?
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy.
It's crazy.
And then the cool throw is getting your butthole fingered.
Oh, okay, good, good.
Leo de Caprio was at a party
and there's pictures of him getting his butthole fingered.
So it's the new craze.
Is it the new craze?
I mean, if Leo's doing it, it's kind of like,
yeah, and this is shingilis tree, is shingles. Guys can't have fun anymore.
You're gonna make a big deal about this.
I think was at TMZ they got it?
Yeah, she was like, you know, they were,
she was over undergoing over the top down the pants.
It's a little straight, taking some hold.
Yeah.
Do you guys, I don't want to, no.
I don't want to bring more publicity to this,
but I'll just ask it.
Do you guys know about whole berry? No. Yeah, yeah this, but I'll just ask it.
Do you guys know Butthole Berry? No.
Yeah, oh, I know Butthole Berry.
Yeah, there's a guy named Butthole Berry
who replies to our tweets with just his Butthole.
Yeah.
Well, we don't know, I think it's Butthole
because it's taken from the angle that's on.
Butthole Berry, he's all up in the mentions.
You're not gonna be able to find like a picture online
of a Butthole from that angle. The hottest 18 year old out. Type shit. No, no, no,'s all up in the mentions. You're not gonna be able to find like a picture online of a ball from that angle.
The hottest 18 year old out.
Type shit. No, no, no, I think it's a dude.
Yeah, it's a dude.
I mean, it's Elon's Twitter.
Elon's Twitter has become just like every day go on.
It's people are doing politics.
It's some person in China getting hit by a bus.
And then it's a bunch of people being like,
I'll suck your dick.
I'm the hottest girl on the only fans.
And there's butthole Mary. PFT Post and someone's a leg getting cut off. Yeah, it's a bunch of people being like, I'll suck your dick, I'm the hottest girl on the only fans, and there's Butthole Berry.
PFT Post and someone's a leg getting cut off.
Yeah, that was a bad parking accident.
Yeah, that was a bad parking accident.
So it was violent.
It was bad.
I was talking.
I want someone to get shot today on Twitter.
Yeah, you don't want to see.
Straight up shot.
I was like, what is going on right now?
And these are all coming from Billy Football's.
Yeah, yeah.
Also they did the classic, which I'm happy I kind of held off
on getting the verify thing where everyone's first paycheck
from tweets was like, so high, and no one, it's nothing.
I'm still getting paid.
Yeah, I got not, like, not always got paid the first time.
No, they ain't any puns.
They ain't any puns to us.
Yeah, so Elon was like, it's basically whatever he feels
on that day.
He's like, here's the money that's going to the content pool
and then the rest of it. I'm just gonna keep for myself. I was talking to feels on that day. He's like, here's the money that's going to the content pool and then the rest of it.
I'm just gonna keep for myself.
I was talking to Kate the other day.
By the way, congratulations to Kate.
Heather Bavie.
And the Bav Pat, they had their baby.
Good job.
What's the bookshot?
No, it's Buckshot.
No, it's Buckshot.
Buckshot Cassidy.
Buckshot Alpha Force Cassidy.
Not his actual name.
No, it is. That's their real name.
The real name actually rocks.
It does, yeah. So Kate. Buckshot. No, it is. That's the real name. The real name actually rocks.
It does.
Yeah.
But so, so K.
Buccia.
Yeah.
K.
Apparently went to the liquor store the other day and she was trying to find a special ingredient
for drinks.
So she was telling the guy at the liquor store, hey, this is what I'm looking for.
And she was pulling up a picture on her phone, scrolling through.
And she showed him a picture of Butthole Barry by mistake.
Yes.
Butthole Barry's Butthole.
And the guy was like, what? And she was like, I swear to God, that's not my butthole, but he totally thought it was of Butthole Berry by mistake. Yes. Butthole Berry's butthole. Yes.
And the guy was like, what?
And she was like, I swear to God, that's not my butthole,
but he totally thought it was her butthole.
Yes, 100%.
Yeah.
Butthole Berry's a menace.
Menace.
Uh.
Memes is a menace.
Memes just sent us a video of a soccer player.
Slot.
Oh, memes!
What the fuck?
It says this post has been deleted.
Memes just sent us a tweet on the group chat of a dude just sliding down.
It was Northwestern. He said it's Northwestern.
It was a soccer team. You fucking it was shining this weekend.
And Revelle's okay with that stuff. Okay, you're hot sea cool throw.
My hot seat is bet pay off season.
So somebody remind me yesterday on Twitter that I've got a lot of bets to repay.
Maybe I haven't done a great job communicating them on when I'm going to be repaying the bets
because I've I've had a cold streak recently, but we will be doing the baseball challenge tomorrow.
Well, that was my hot seat.
Oh, because we initially were saying the second place team had to catch, and then I was like,
well, it'd be funnier for content if PFT's pitching
and I'm catching that don't make a joke
about our relationship.
I wasn't going to.
So I'm catching and I'm gonna get injured.
I'm gonna get injured.
We're both gonna get injured.
So right now my right shoulders hanging on by a thread.
I've got a laborum tear, a rotator top.
You're an accident.
No, no, it's been injured since like 2011, 2012.
I've got a broken humorous at the top.
I've got a fucked up shoulder, so not looking forward
to this bet, probably gonna re-endure it.
But you still throw a curve?
I can throw a nasty knuckle curve.
We got to paint my fingernails for you.
Yeah, please do.
Tomorrow.
So we're doing that too.
It's also gonna be like, for easy.
Yeah, it's gonna be sunny though.
It's gonna be sunny.
It's gonna be sunny.
Oh, good.
Great.
Yeah.
There needs some sunny.
Also, Jake Hank and Max are gonna be the outfit.
Yeah, we're ready.
I'm ready for this.
I'm gonna get her.
Yeah, we're both gonna be hurt.
This might be the end of part of my take, actually.
Yeah.
There's no episode on Friday, sorry, but we've got, we've got,
we got hurt.
We got dead.
Yeah, we got hurt.
We died. I'm worried.
I just don't know if I can like squat down
Ketcher stands for like multiple innings if pft can't get anyone out. You can jump I'm gonna get everybody out you can squat you can sit down like we need some
We're gonna help you guys out. Just need you think so. Yeah. Oh, okay
You think you're gonna be good out there. You're playing left. All right fine. Okay. Mm-hmm. I would say it's it's
There's probably the best odds are
Ending because of injury. Yeah, yeah, I'd say ending for injury minus 180. Yeah. And I mean, how many times do you think they'll
bat around the order?
I guess that would be the other one.
Yeah, what's your over under of runs?
Because we will have the team
where they're playing the end field.
So if you can just, and it's cold,
not great hitting conditions,
but you're gonna be pitching like meatballs.
The only thing that you might have in your favors
that you're pitching so slow that it's gonna throw them off
and they just hit hard ground balls and they make good plays.
Now fast you think I can throw.
60.
How many errors do I have?
Yeah, I was gonna say 63.
60.
How many errors?
A lot.
I like, we're not, yeah, I don't know why Jake is confident.
Yeah, like we are going to, I mean, I'm gonna miss judge some balls, but I can't miss judge. Yeah, but that's
I'm just gonna play at the wall. If you miss you
Yeah, some balls were like we have to get six out okay, I think there's gonna be a lot of yeah
Not necessarily errors in the outfield because an error would imply that you had to get your your glove on the ball
Yeah, you're just gonna not know how to track a ball. Yeah, anything in the middle, like right there.
What if I throw someone out?
Yeah, you should.
I should.
I'm gonna let them steal.
I don't know if someone out.
I gotta work on my pop.
You pick off move.
I'm gonna work on in ball trick.
Yeah, before we play.
Oh, fuck yes.
We should get a ball trick.
Actually, can we just get multiple balls?
I mean, I'm ready for you.
I know I'm gonna be playing.
I didn't even think about to play at the play. Well, the
new rules, they can't touch you. Or else they're out. I might just
I might just reverse it and just like not even try to catch the ball
just run at the guy running at me. I like that. No offense big
cap, but maybe gets out of the base path. If you get Buster Posey
don't play, I'm just gonna walk over and put you down like a
horse. That would suck. And Jerry's gonna be the umph, which will
help us. Yes, yeah.
I got all the, I bought so much ump shit.
He's got, he's gonna look very official.
So yeah, that's going down tomorrow.
I, I'm not super excited about it
if I'm being totally honest.
But no, you know what?
Fuck it.
Let's start there and be like,
it's for the people, it's for the people.
And then I'm gonna be getting the perm
and getting the tattoo on the live stream
on Hank and Max's live stream.
So all these bets will be paid off, but they will be paid off in the name of content.
Yeah, we basically we have to do the 24 hour streams also.
Punishment of me and Max have had to do that we've pushed off until we're able to use the full office facilities.
And I've been just trying to shoehorn.
Everyone else.
Everything, everything into that.
Yeah.
Because I don't know what the fuck we're going to do for 24 hours. So else. Everything. Everything into that because I don't know what the fuck are gonna do for 24 hours. So you guys are that will come
For the new year. Yeah, I think soon. Yeah, soon. So how soon soon two weeks? I think we I think we for black Friday
Well, and I also think we figured out there's like a really good Thursday night football game that we want you guys to miss
Yeah game that we want you guys to miss. Yeah. No, it's like we're gonna do it and it will end right as the
Thursday night football. Well, how can oh, Bengals Ravens. Yes, we want you guys. We wanted you to be
delirious about we recorded a show right after Bengals Ravens. You guys come out and the game's over
and then we do the show and then I have to do that. You can't do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
You have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that.
Sorry you have to do that. Sorry you have to do that. Sorry you have to do that. Sorry you have to do that. We're gonna build a box. A boo box. Yeah. How big is this box? Big.
We have a huge basketball court.
Although we do have some empty rooms we could do.
Yeah.
We should maybe do that.
We just put you in an empty room.
There's some small empty rooms.
Are we gonna give us some toys?
Oh, if we just, yeah, if we just,
if we just, if we just put something over the glass doors
in one of the conference rooms, we could do that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think one of the podcasts
I'm from no that's not too small. That's not too small. That's not too small. There's the big conference room. No, that's too big
Okay, that's way too big. That's that's also too small. That's way too big. It should be like this studio
No, this studio is too big me. I'm actually gonna be like popcorn reading. Oh, okay, but I think oh
We can we can talk about it for time. All right, which reading school?
I don't know. I didn't know how do you pop?
I know what pop is reading is when you're reading and then all of the sudden you call a person's name pop corn pft
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's only the two of you
That was gonna be my thing, but then you catch the person who's not paying attention
It's basically you're just trying to wrap them out for the teacher. But there's only two of you.
Yeah, Hank's just gonna be saying popcorn
max the entire time.
Yeah.
We said read better than him.
All right.
Yeah, what's your cool throne?
So maybe we can take this out if we're not ready to
say it on the show yet, but I think that this person's
going to be on the live stream on Thursday.
Yes, Clint Portis.
The other person.
Yes.
So everybody be cool. I'm trusting the listeners. This is cool. Yes. So, everybody be cool.
I'm trusting the listeners, be cool.
No, but listen to it.
No, no, no, no, because everyone's got to wear nice clothes.
Yeah, Thursday night, when you're watching the stream,
we have to say it because we're, you know,
brush your hair, you're gonna be shot.
The shower.
We have a very special guest that's gonna watch football
with us, gonna sit down for an interview
and part of my take on Thursday in studio, as well as Clinton Portis.
As well as Clinton Portis, so I'm also very excited about.
It is Tiffany Gomez, that motherfucker's not real,
lady from the plane.
My remember from the foot picture,
but she's so much more than that,
and I think we need to start out by remembering that,
everybody.
She's a nice lady, she's flying up to Chicago,
not on American, that was specified,
and she's gonna be doing an interview and live streaming the game. So everybody be cool.
Just be cool. Be cool. Be cool. Be cool, guys. We're all cool, guys.
Be cool. We're cool. Be cool, Hank. Hank, are you be cool?
Yeah. We're gonna be cool. We're gonna be cool. Alright, my cool throne, so my hot seat
is having to catch tomorrow for PFT although we're gonna fucking be
We're gonna we're gonna crush that I need some some red man. Can we get some red man? Yes
I need a bunch of red I got spider tag my cool throne is charity
So I treated about this the other day, but Wyshefest that is going to be in Chicago salt shed on Saturday
These are people I've been
You know known for a very long time. Great charity.
They raise money for families battling cancer.
So if you're in Chicago and you want to do something
on Saturday, it's going to be sick.
Natasha Beddingfield is playing.
Oh, yeah, cool.
Randy Hauser, Plain White Tees.
So concert, college football will be on all day.
It's going to be a great party.
150 bucks is an open bar, basically all day.
So it's going to be a great time. I think there open bar basically all day. So it's gonna be a great
time. I think there'll be some people from bar stool there. So please go check it out
is W E I S H fest dot com. Um, help out. Yeah, help out. It's a great people that I've
known for a very long time. So help out. Great lineup. Yes. Great lineup. And you get to
watch college football with an open bar at the Salchhead, which is an awesome venue. Perfect.
Hatsi Kultrohn, Jake.
My Hatsi is Dabo Swinney.
Yes.
He had a radio show where he had some words for Tyler from Spartansburg.
He's foreign for the season.
He told him he's part of the problem if you want to apply for my job, go for it and
good luck to you.
It was a five minute rant.
You can listen to it.
It's all over.
He also dropped a great, he went Thai Lur, which is just a very, like, that's a great
dad thing to do.
He also said to answer your question, I started as the lowest paid coach in this business.
I worked my ass off.
I'm not going to let this smart ass kid get on the phone and tell me how to do my job.
I work for the board of trust.
He basically did the Dave Chappelle when keeping it real goes wrong.
I don't like people playing on my phone.
Yeah.
But it is kind of crazy.
Like, Dabo Clemson was not a national title team.
Dabo came.
They won more than 10 games, whatever, however many years or almost seven years or
one, two national titles.
Bad year. I think he deserves at least one bad year.
So Davos actually write with his answer, which was he raised the
expectation.
So high that now you can't.
It's impossible to fulfill your expectation unless you win a national
championship.
Right.
So Davos write in that, but it's also, it's very funny here.
Davos when he say the word ass.
Yes.
Yes.
That's my take on it.
All right.
You're cool, throne.
My cool throne. Well, it's kind of putting you guys on the hot seat, but Cooper flag.
He committed to do. Yeah, fuck him. Yeah, I think he's dead to me to the brotherhood. Duke over
you, Tom, and we'll see him next year in Cameron Indoor. You know what? Dead to me. I think,
I think this is bigger than Duke. I think it's bigger than Duke. I think I might still be a Cooper flag,
guy. I'm not for the next year. I will be when he goes pro. I think I have to root for old Cooper.
Yeah, but Chyre, he's a hometown guy here. I don't like a black. I do not like Cooper flag.
All right. I'm done with Cooper flag. He's gonna be a problem. He's gonna be a problem. Cooper flag is gonna be a problem.
He is very good. I'm not gonna hate. I'll say it. I will not hate Cooper flag
I'm just gonna pretend he doesn't exist. You can do that for the next year. I'm gonna show them. I'm showing them
Can you root for the brotherhood but not root for Duke at the same time? No no all right then I'm out
Also very funny like it was like Cooper flag to the brotherhood and he's holding a pitch for the tried it
Yeah, the brotherhood was the brother's interesting choice there. Yeah. Okay, let's get to our interview with Ryan Whitney.
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Here he is Ryan Whitney
Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. I think he might lead the league in part of my take appearances.
So we had to have him on in the new studio
and we have NHL hockey is back in what a week.
So yeah, yeah, we got we got two weeks to the opening night.
Two weeks to the opening night.
Want to do our hockey preview.
Talk about the upcoming NHL season.
I'll start with this.
I'm big on the golden
lights. I think they're going to be good this year. Yeah, golden lights. I don't
really see any Stanley Cup hangover coming there for some reason. I talk to
the guys that are ready to go. So I think that they're going to come out
buzzing and honestly just start the season off just the way they finished
last year. I also kind of like the sharks this year. I feel like they're
they did a good job in the off season.
I think the sharks are really going to struggle to score goals.
It could be one of the worst teams we've ever seen in modern day NHL.
We'll see how it plays out though.
You don't know.
You don't know.
All right, so obviously this season started, which is that this is how we do our previews.
So this is early actually.
This is early, this is early, but we also were like, Hey, we were opening new studio. When is I do think that you are the number one guest on this show.
So speaking of the new season, from a player's perspective, when does the new season feel
like you're like really in it? When do when does like the panic of like we're really
good or really bad actually start? Because you like baseball is usually somewhere around July NFL. It's right around now where teams
trade deadline figuring out what they are. What is it for hockey?
If I was a super informed guest and by the way what an honor. I think we said it last
time like number one sports podcast to be the most the guests that's on the most like that's
kind of not a go down on my resume when it's all said and done.
So thank you boys.
It is an honor.
Yeah.
You're right.
And you're welcome.
So what percentage of Pink Whitney should we get then
because you've done so much promotion on our show
for your talk to your boy, Dave,
because now he fucking owns everything.
So ask him, I'll buy it for me for a dollar.
Do you just get a check every month?
Every quarter. Oh, that's sick. That me for a dollar. Do you just get a check every month every quarter?
Oh, that's sick. That is kind of nice fucking sick. I drive I drive past a pink Whitney billboard. I mean both
You guys are making way more than me. So if we want to do this talk we could talk
That's probably it be some money. He's right. We actually yeah, let's drop it. We gave away our game checks for the next year
All right, wait, so back to the question. When does the NHL season start?
So real.
I wish I had the exact numbers.
And if I was a, uh, an informed guest I would,
but American Thanksgiving is the time when you, you know.
And by that, I mean, I, I pretty sure that if you're not
in the playoffs, come American Thanksgiving, you're like,
you got a 10% chance to get in.
Like the numbers are crazy how it ends up working out so while there's some
panic for a team like myself the Edmonton Oilers I'm an Edmonton Oilers
Superfan once in oil are always an oiler there's some worry but it's not it's
not too late as of right now right I think every team's played between seven
and ten games so obviously there's some sketchy starts out there for some what were thought to be really good teams.
But once we get to American Thanksgiving, that's when you look at the standings and you can actually figure out like there might be one or two teams that aren't in right now that get in, but this will probably be the top eight in each conference.
Wait, the Oilers stink.
So we are now a new team. We won the outdoor, we won the Heritage Classic.
We smacked around the Calgary Flames who socked.
Wait, when was the Heritage Classic?
Heritage Classic was Saturday night.
We're the Edmonton, oh my God.
They did, what is their name?
What is the CFL team in Edmonton?
Guys, come on.
Oh, the Eskimos?
I think it is the Eskimos.
Yes, I think it is.
They played outdoor at their stadium
20th anniversary of the first outdoor game before the Buffalo Pittsburgh one I played in was Edmonton versus Montreal in
2003 they did the 20 year anniversary did the Battle of Alberta. It was actually sick. Nickelback played nickelback
Connor McDavid said they were the greatest band of all time. Okay, you got to respect when the great one says that or you know
I didn't mean that
The playoffs right now you just said the great win fact
Well, he got hurt big cat. We missed we he was up for two games and and we lost both and then he came back
And he was dominant the other night so basically that win changed around the whole season
But as of right now the Edmonton Starts Minute disaster, I could say that.
Yeah, you said the Oilers suck.
You tweeted that out.
I know, but then I retracted it,
and I said I had a moment of weakness,
and I said I took it all back,
and that they're actually awesome
at the flames really suck.
So I addressed that on today's episode of Spit and Shake
with you yesterday, because this is dropping tomorrow.
Yesterday's episode of Spitgings, I addressed that tweet,
and I really retracted it. Okay, so all. So, I can't believe they're doing. Do you think they do too many outdoor games?
No, I actually don't. I think that people that watch on TV have a right to probably be like,
why are there so many of these? But they're totally made for everyone going. And every person that
goes to the one each year is, goes away is pretty much saying it was a blast. It's an awesome experience.
There's tailgating, you know, just being outside.
So it's not, I mean, for the viewers, it's, it's usually January 1st or January 2nd.
They finally switched it from when the college playoff is, or that's December 31st, right?
Either way, it's a good thing.
It's, it's on TV and then being there is the best part.
So I like how they do that.
That's a good answer.
There was also a guy that was in the pregame skate he was wearing like cowboy
boot skates that rock
i saw that guy i don't know who he was uh... but he had the jit like
power bottoms on cowboy yeah i don't know how the balance that would be like my
ankles when i was playing he was doing the uh... the canadian tuxedo i think he
had jeans a gene jacket in cowboy boots on he looked awesome
that's biz that's pretty much how biz dresses.
All right. So I like this answer Thanksgiving, American Thanksgiving is what
teams start to feel the pressure.
How is it in a locker room, though, at the beginning of the season, if you do
start like the Edminton Oilers, is there like, Hey, guys, what's going on?
And maybe not so many jokes like let's get let's whip off some winds here.
We got to start, we We gotta start making some hay.
I think they're, the panic consenting for the players
a little bit in a sense of like,
if we had good or high expectations
and we're struggling the way Edmonton was,
that's why they were like,
they were talking about this outdoor heritage classic
as if it were a playoff game.
Like I think I heard must win thrown around a couple of times
and considering it was the eighth game of the year, that's not ideal.
But players realize, like, we got to start getting going. Whereas if you're on
the sharks or, you know, the black hawks, there's no expectations. Obviously,
you want to play well, but you realize that the whole year was probably going
to be a bit of a grind. So for the good teams who struggle slow, yeah, right
away, you're like, we have to switch us. We have to change us. And then if
you're in Canada or a big market, the questions are starting to come
after every practice, every game you want to end those, you want to get away from that.
So it's probably quicker for the players, but like fan bases don't really panic until
mid November, late November. Yeah. Yeah, it felt like a very slow start for Edmonton.
And on the other hand, you got Boston, Boston's been the best team in the NHL.
How did this team lose in the playoffs, Wendy?
They just ran into a super hot goalie.
They didn't get great goal tending.
They didn't switch up their goalie,
which they had all regular season.
They had gone the Swam and Allmark combo.
They went with Allmark every game until the end,
and then Swam and went in.
And it was just
it was one of those just wasn't meant to be and and and Bershran came back in the middle of the
series. They were up 3-1. He comes back. They lose the next three. It was basically a full-on
collapse and a choke like I said it at the time and Florida had this magical like thing going on
where who knows what they would have done with Vegas. They were so banged up. Everyone was injured.
Kitchuk could barely even move,
but Florida was a good team,
and they basically just, they caught lighting in a bottle,
if that's the saying, I don't even know if that is,
but it was a shocker to me.
It still will be, but what they've done
to start the season is incredible,
because they lose, they lose Bergeron, they lose Kratchi,
and everyone's like, this team's gonna struggle
to make the playoffs.
I had them getting in, but I thought they may be the eighth,
seventh seed, and it looks like the culture there.
Martian's the new captain.
They still have Maccaboy, even though he's getting
suspended today.
They still have the saucy.
They're a little shorter into him.
He just crushed all of our ECM and Larsson in the face
with his shoulder, so it probably get three games.
What's that like when you have the meeting,
when you go to the player's safety meeting, you get to plead your case to not get saucy. What's that like when you have the meeting when when you go to the player safety meeting
You get to plead your case to not get sausage. What do you say so I only I had one phone call hearing
I went to lift up Ovechkin stick and I speared him in the balls is done and and actually the the guy I was on the phone
Was hey you got the right guy. I always thought that was kind of crazy and I got fine $2,500 bucks
So I never was suspended in my NHL career. Oh wow. That means you didn't play tough enough exactly
Yeah, I mean well that is like I want my guys to get suspended every now and then okay
Well, I mean in the end like you lose as a fan you lose one of your players for games and then the player loses money
So suspensions are an ideal, but I will say it means you're cheating on the edge of right a little crazy
Right, I think biz got a 10-gamer actually for jumping off the bench during a fight
so he's probably still bitching about that money loss yeah he could not lose that
money it's very in B.A. of you to care more about your money than actually helping
your team win the Ryan well actually the first thing I said was that you the
fan base would understand that a player is now gone so that was the first
thing that went into my mind and then I thought the player also loses money but the first thing I said was not being in the line. Yeah, that's
not NBA. Yeah, you don't you don't do load management. You know that kids come out every night
to see Ryan Whitney play when you're on a road trip. I heard Jimmy Butler got a load management
game in the third game in the fucking season. So no. Okay. So speaking of NBA, is there a James Harden of the NHL in that maybe a guy a star who might who might ask for a trade?
So Pierre Luke Dubois was on Columbus,
Tortorola and him butted heads. He didn't want to be there. He requested a trade. He got traded to Winnipeg where I believe his family lived
And you know Canada big market good player and then all of a sudden a year went by and he wanted to get traded from there and he got traded to LA.
So he's on his third team after two trade requests.
So one more and he'd match up big, big game James.
Yeah.
Big game James.
Big game James.
I like that.
That's James Shields who did not deserve that nickname.
You guys have become like the big jays of the hockey world.
It's been fun to watch the last couple of years
You had you broke the story about Babcock looking through people's cell phones
You said that you come down with a side of the player is always I think biz said like if you fuck with the players
Where do you say like no spit no loob sandpaper finish? Yeah, it's what you're gonna
Well, Ben Jo over no spit no loob sandpaper
Probably a little aggressive. I mean he does work for TNT, but he's he can say and do whatever he wants We figured that out at this point. Yes No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was like, no way. And then I kind of reminded them of our phone call when we recorded. It was our first episode off of our summer break.
Long deserved break that we really, really deserved.
They needed.
And just put in a straight request to spit and trickless.
So then we just, he just threw it out there and he was just saying, you won't believe this
Babcock.
He's checking guys phones.
And then honestly, like he said after, he's like,' phones and then honestly, he said after,
he's like, that'll probably catch a little bit
of steam in the media, but never in a million years
that I think that would end up happening.
So in terms of that type of podcast, breaking news,
guys getting fired, I'm not looking to be a journalist.
You guys know that, you guys don't wanna be journalists.
I don't wanna be the guy breaking the news.
I wanna be the guy that's maybe talking
about the news that's being broken.
Yes. So when that all went down, were you, were you kind of stunned with the
response? Because I was getting mad for you guys. We, we kept on defending you guys because
it's like all these journalists were like, oh, why would you, why would you believe these
pieces of shit, bars to all this stuff? It's like, no, they're talking about a thing that
happened to the players. They're reporting what actually happened. Were you at any point like, this is insane
that people just even after all this time think that we're complete jokes and like, why
wouldn't you believe us?
Yeah, a little bit. I will say there was a little panic, at least for myself when they released
a quick statement where Boone Jenner and Johnny Goudreau said that he did go through his phone and it was completely fine and nothing was weird and I was like
Oh shit like right where we could end up looking like full and I knew that we hadn't made anything up
Which that was my big argument at the time I said like what why would why would we as a podcast risk like pretty much
Everything to make up this random story and then even for biz like who did probably catch a little heat
I think TNT texted him right away probably with the league texting them or getting in touch with them like what is going on?
So this has business you think he's gonna risk like his job or TNT and chicklets and all of kind of what we stand for and what we say
Being truthful for to does make up this random lie.
And I think part of it was just all the bar stool haters and just us being attacked to them and
you know hockey media, they're out of their mind a lot of them. So I think for that,
it was a little bit surprising in terms of like people saying we're flat out lying,
like why would we do that? But when that statement came out from the older vets and the captain
on the team, I said, oh shit, like if they just sweep this under the rug, we're going to have to stand
by our word, but it's always going to be a little foolish looking for us as a group.
And then in the end, those older guys hadn't even heard what he'd done to some younger
players and the truth ended up coming out kind of luckily for the team in terms of probably
getting a coach out of there that wouldn't have been much fun to play for and in terms for us as a
Podcast, you know holding some credibility still. It's crazy to me. I don't know if you get mad about it because obviously we're not
professional athletes or ex-professional athletes. So when people say shit about us for like, yeah, we are dumb. We're dumb idiots. Like, what are you gonna do?
We're not gonna fight it. But
When journalists say like, what are these guys know and are you gonna do? We're not gonna fight it. But when journalists say like what are these guys know?
And are you seeing there like dude,
I know that I'm not a journalist,
but I was in a fucking NHL locker room for a decade.
Like I know something, this is crazy.
I just, I'm more look at it.
Like I have a lot of friends that still play in the league.
Like I've been out of the league for quite a while.
I've come up 10 years, but I still know guys who are still there
and playing, and obviously that'll change at some point,
but Biz even more so.
I mean, he's got so many friends around the league.
He's got so many different sources within teams.
And so for people to say that we have no clue what we're talking
about, I know I'm not going to say they're like jealous,
but they're more just kind of being a little ridiculous
in my mind, but I also will say like,
I look at it the same way, like I am pretty dumb.
I don't know, I just give my opinion on sports,
and if there's a certain play I'm talking about,
I'd like to think I know what I'm saying
in terms of like a breakdown,
but when we're talking about different stories
that break like, yeah, we're dummies,
we're messing around, we're just being goofballsballs so that part of it doesn't bother me it's more when you kind of question our credibility and if
if if if if you're thinking that we would make things up about certain players like not only
would that hurt us but it would it would just kind of ruin our relationships within the league right
yeah I thought R.A.'s credibility was on the line so I was happy to see that come through I was
worried for him I was like, what hot water did,
did, uh, Whitten Biz get RA into this time?
How's he going to get out of this one?
RA's just immediately like getting away from biz and I was like,
no, no, these guys are full of shit.
Yeah.
Wait, so you said, Babcock, obviously tough guy,
not fun guy to play for.
I think Tortorales, everyone knows,
probably not fun to play for. Who's another coach that, but not a one to, I never want to play for. I think Tortorélla's, everyone knows, probably not fun to play for.
Who's another coach that-
But not a one to compare.
I never want to have those two be compared.
I do like saying that.
We said it at the time because Tortorélla can be hard on guys
and like demand a lot, but people also say that away
from the rank he's a good guy.
He's a good person.
He's just be a mother fucker to play for.
Where Babcock never had any of that. Right, so who else is like a tough guy to play for that like around the league
Not not a bad coach, but just he just coaches the guys very tough
The game has changed so much where when I was playing I would say it was like 80% of guys who could be ballbusters and stay on you and be pricks and
It's just I think with the with the way the games change and
players being so young in the league, there aren't many
guys. I think Greg Kronin, who's a first year coach on
Anaheim, he's been around the NHL and all hockey leagues for
forever, but he can be pretty intense from what I've heard.
But like you look at Tampa Bay, John Cooper's not really like
that. Like he's just more probably not down to earth, but
maybe more a little more personable
with all the guys he coaches.
And like Martin St. Louis and Montreal now,
it's Jim Montgomery's kind of a players coach
and quotation.
So the game's changed in terms of the hard ass
old school coaching style is really going by the wayside
and it's happened pretty quickly actually.
I have a dumb question.
If you rank the four major sports, where does hockey rank in terms of how important the
coaches?
So football is one.
Yeah.
Football, I think, is definitely basketball is the last one.
Okay.
And I would say baseball.
I would say baseball is in front of hockey.
So third, okay.
I think baseball, baseball, aren't baseball coaches calling all the pitches and stuff.
And a lot of it. Well, catchers, a lot of catchers do that too.
And some of it is deciding pitchers though.
Yeah, deciding pitchers wanted to pull guys, but there's also like,
there's been the analytics revolution in baseball where like the Yankees.
I think that's the big complaint Yankees fans have is like,
Aaron Boone doesn't even manage. It's like a spreadsheet.
Like it's just a plan that they have going in.
You could have a software computer could do it. Yeah. Yeah. A.I. I't even manage. It's like a spreadsheet. Like it's just a plan that they have going in. You could have a software program.
We're like a computer could do it.
Yeah, a computer could do it.
AI could manage.
So let's put hockey number two behind football.
What's the hardest thing a hockey coach has to do?
Like is it tactical?
No, I think like there's so few systems
you can actually play.
Like there's only so many defensive zone coverages.
There's only so many different power plays you can run so coaches
actually more so like pick in the lines right like who's gonna play with who
yep finding out like if you ask players like especially forwards it'll
drive them nuts when the coaches are putting the lines in a blender where
every game you're playing with two different guys and guys like getting
consistency and having a chance to play with the same two players or for defense
when you're other partner, but I think coaches are picking the line up. They're figuring out mid game who's going and who's not and then
shortened in the bench. Maybe popping a guy up from the fourth line to the second line because he's really going that night. So in game,
coaches do do a lot more than I think. And there's a lot of preparation that goes in and a lot of video watching and scouting other teams,
but in-game coaches are getting a feel of the bench
it's seeing who has at that night and who doesn't.
So yeah, they're number two.
I think number two.
I also do love in the Stanley Cup playoff
when the coach will, they have like one line
that they can put out there that could kill everyone,
but they don't want to do it until later on in the series. I love when coaches do that when they're like, all right, here is like fuck our third and
fourth line.
We're going to shorten this up and just like hammer you with our first line.
But then you look at Vegas and that's why they were just so dominant and continue to be
this year.
They have 12 forwards and 60 and there's no weaknesses.
You don't have to hide a deep pairing. You don't have to hide a deep
pairing. You don't have to really limit the fourth line. They pretty much just
roll their lines, roll the pairings and they're so deep that they just crushed
teams. So that job may be a little easier in terms of like Bruce Cassidy because
he knows I got depth at every position. Like I really don't have to hide
anyone and I can just chug this train along and just wear teams down. Was it was there ever a defenseman that you would play with who
was a really good player but for whatever reason you and him just you couldn't
play well together on the ice? I don't have an example of that
personally off the top of my head but it happens all the time. I mean I don't
know how much time no granted. They're both centers like
Crosby and Malcolm didn't spend much time together obviously they play the same position So that makes a little bit of sense
But there's been there's been like times where two good players a center and a winger for some reason
They they don't click and there's two D partners that don't click and then you see
Maybe a D pair that you'd never thought would work and they end up playing together an entire season
So yeah, there's chemistry within players that for some reason, sometimes never forms.
And it's always kind of confusing because I think coaching staffs look before a season
like, alright, these two be great together and then it never works out.
It's kind of one of those things that's just so random.
You can't put a finger on it unless it's a group, a forward line where, you know, you
got two guys who love to go in, get the puck, they'll go in the corner's hard. Then there's one guy who doesn't do it.
So they don't all mesh well together.
But for personally, I don't, I don't remember having that.
Is your D pairing partner?
Is your partner on defense?
Is it like, um, like, you know, like a cop pairing where it's like you have
his back no matter what?
And you almost are like closer to him than anyone else on the team.
Yes.
Yes.
Every shift you're coming off.
You're just talking next to each other on the bench.
What just happened in that corner?
I should have been there.
Oh, I yelled this.
I got to say this.
So there's just so much that goes into it during practices and in between shifts that
if you can get a player, you're a partner for D that you're with for a long time, you
really start knowing where each other are without even really thinking, which is the true, you know, that's ideal in the game, right?
If all of a sudden I know he's going to be there, then it's just makes the game that much easier.
So yeah, there's a lot that goes into that.
Well, coach, ever be lazy and be like, you guys both speak Russian.
You guys should be on the ice at the same time.
Yes.
That's what I would do.
But that would more be like them being like hey we both speak russian put us together
but then the other the third player on that lines like uh...
right there they're looking at me with anger and talking in russian so i don't
think they like me very much right now better learn to speak russian buddy i
actually have a serious question about the about uh... russia and the russian
gas that you guys uh... would always talk about on on spin chicklets
uh... since the war in Ukraine, has there been a shortage
of Russian gas coming over to the United States?
I don't think it ever was coming over
to the United States.
The Russian gas experience, it's only in the KHL.
You got to play in the KHL to experience it
and get the chance.
And actually, not to plug our own show,
but we dropped the show today, or yesterday,
and Kevin Dolman is a guest.
He played in the NHL for a little bit, then he went over to the KHL.
He's actually the all-time goal-scoring leader in that league.
He's from Canada.
He had an incredible career over there.
He probably made 30 million.
And he goes in depth more than we've ever discussed with anyone what actually Russian
gas is.
It was about 10 minutes of him describing what he did, how he did it, how he felt, and it's a great little story and an in-depth look at Russian gas is it was about 10 minutes of him describing what he did how he did it how he felt and it's a great little story and an
In-depth look at Russian gas so anyone who's really curious go to the Kevin Dolman interview on this week's pit and check out
I long listen to it. That's crazy. Yeah, part of my TFT
I was actually I was over there and my gas was like I got a shot and it was definitely like speed or something because I was
Incredible that night and when I did it
But this guy he actually went through like using the gas mask and I was blown away and then he gave it to another guy who was like
Holy shit, that what a buzz like it's a it's a it's a pretty incredible like breakdown of what they actually did over there Yeah, has there been a difference in just international hockey in general like the flow of where players are going to play
Ever since the K. H. L.
is now not a safe place for people to play.
There's there's guys still in the K. H. L. that's still going on. I think that maybe guys look to Sweden and Switzerland a little bit more.
But what sucks for international hockey is like the world juniors, which is the best under 20 players in the world.
A lot of guys go on to be NHL stars every Christmas time. Russia's not in that. They're not in the under 18. If this continues and they have a best on best
tournament, they wouldn't be in that. So the I.I.H.F. has banned them from everything, which sucks because
you know, they're always one of the best teams and you want to see these players and it's just,
it is what it is. I don't see that ending anytime soon. Yeah.
Real quick, Conor Bredard, nine games in, past the test.
Although on yet last night, so Monday night, he scored with 30, 30 seconds into the game.
The Blackhawks did lose eight to one. That wasn't an ideal. But has he passed the Ryan Whitney
eye test? After the first period of opening night, he passed the test. I said holy shit like I just wanted to see him in one game
And I actually knew that I'd probably have a I mean, that's a little ridiculous to say
But I once I saw him for a period you can kind of tell and right away you're like this
This is a superstar. This is a future game breaker and he's small
But his shot is out of this world and I also thought or I also didn't realize how good he is at creating plays, like Space for himself.
He had a nice assist in the first game
and he does everything that you need to see,
a young like first overall pick dude to prove to you
that you're looking at a future 50 goal a year guy.
His shot is out of this world.
And in terms of that last Monday night,
they had rookie party in Scottsdale before that
so that game was a right offense. Okay, so that doesn't count. That doesn't count. Does he better than
Conor McDavid? No, same number Stanley Cups. Conor McDavid's team is also really bad.
No, no, the others are not really bad. They're very good. They're very good. They had a tough
little start, but they're actually they shoe and five they suck according to the channel is right with me. They're two and five. Nope, nope, took it back. Don't put words
in my mouth. They're two and my mouth. And by the way, the others have lost the last
two seasons in the Western Conference Final two years ago and the second round this year
to the two Stanley Cup champions. So basically, the runners up. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Nice. And last year, their series with Vegas, which was 2-2, going back to Vegas game five, they
lost.
And that was the Stanley Cup final.
So I just want to get that.
So they lost the Stanley Cup.
They've run their runners up the last two years.
Okay.
It's a good spin zone.
If he retired today, who would have had a better career?
McDavid or Phil Kessel? I guess Phil Kessel, but McDavid was was more dominant, but if you're looking at a career,
I mean he broke the Iron Man streak and has two Stanley cups and I don't know four, five hundred goals.
So Kessel. Does Kessel still play?
You have three.
No, he um last year he was on the the Vegas gold Knights, but he didn't play one playoff game.
They went with a different roster and then this, I think he was open to playing, but he didn't want to go
somewhere on a tryout.
So who knows?
Maybe he does get signed in the next month or two or maybe he's, he's just going
to shut it down.
But he was, I hope he's to have the record he has.
And to do what he did, he's an all time player, Hallfamer.
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And now here's more Ryan Whitney. Hey, where's
Patrick King going to play this year? Because he's got his hip injury that he's rehabbing
from and he's going to basically get to pick a team at some point in like January, right?
Yep. I wish I was buddies with him and I could kind of get an inside scoop. I got nothing.
I'm hoping for Buffalo. I'm on the Buffalo Sabers bandwagon. I'd love to see them get
in the playoffs this year. It's been a tough. They actually have the longest playoff drought streak in pro sports right now really
Which is amazing to me. They haven't been in the playoffs in 13 years, which I was surprised
There's no team in any other league that's gone 13 years. There's those playoffs
But it is the Buffalo Sabers Patrick Cain's from Buffalo. I've actually been beating this drum since before he was traded to the Rangers
Rangers Rangers are legit Stanley Cup
Stanley Cup threat this season. Maybe he goes back there, but I don't know with how it went in the first round exit to the devils
Maybe Dallas. That's kind of a rumor that's been circulating around. That's another Stanley Cup possibility for that team
But I really can't give you any insight in for them. Not a journalist that
They're tied with the jets.
The New York Jets.
So this will be their 13th year if they don't do it.
12 years.
Yes, same as the Jets.
Last time I think the Jets might get in this year.
Yeah.
I think the Jets are good.
Not to fact check you, but Phil Kessel's a three time Stanley Cup champion.
Who?
Three times.
So you're 16.
You're a hundred percent.
You're a hundred percent.
Twenty twenty is on the golden nights and I didn't give him credit because he didn't play in the playoffs
But that's my you don't say didn't play in the playoffs. David has a long way. It's a big mountain to plot
So I forgot still his name's on the cup. Yeah true. What I just said I forgot okay
Don't get mad, but you forgot and then they literally when did they they wanted a long time ago though, right?
This is like It was like, um, yeah,
like six when you say you're sorry in the next month,
giving it to you. I actually left.
Yeah, no, there's no way getting out of that.
You guys say I'm sorry over and over and then you just get a
call. Well, now, no, no, I'm not sorry.
I am still. Um, let's talk about a different sport real quick.
Your, your bulldogs. Oh, baby. this Brock Bowers thing is scary as hell though. Yeah, cuz I don't know
Good though Carson back is good. He might be good
I know and I didn't really know what to expect. He kind of like
Has a weird like face like a little like lazy looking, but he could sling it
But they're they're not winning without bowers and I think that any true bulldogs fan to tell you it's gonna be real difficult without him
By the way football guys can he go first overall like if he's gonna be drunk or Kelsey?
No, he won't be a quarterback, but he'll go top five. Oh that guy
That guy's insane. Yeah, I can't believe how good I think it could be, he could be better than Kelsey and Grunk.
Yeah, no, I mean, you're right.
Like he might, he will probably have a better career
than the guys who get drafted above him,
but better back.
That's what I'm saying with the NFL.
Like if you know you have this 12 to 15 year superstar tight end
and, and, and he's not like he can block, he could do everything.
Why wouldn't you take him?
Consider, especially considering,
these quarterbacks have from sucked
that could take it first overall.
Yeah, Kyle Pits was the highest
drafted tight end in NFL history
with the fourth overall a couple of years ago.
Okay.
So maybe he breaks that this year.
We think about Caleb Williams
painting his fingernails before games,
saying like fuck you to his opponents.
How does, is it ever been a hockey player that does that?
I don't know.
I'd love to ask Sean Avery.
He might have painted a finger in his time.
It was like a giant fuck you to someone.
I'm not exactly sure.
I can't think of anyone.
What's Sean Avery doing these days besides getting
in fights with people on the street?
He's doing a hockey podcast with Kevin Conley,
E for Montoruch, and then another guy, excuse me,
I don't know his name.
It's actually entertaining on YouTube, I watch it occasionally and he does a jujitsu. I believe he's up to a bluer of yellow belt and he competes
And he's done pretty well. So avers crushing it. I kind of like when John Avery just does the videos
I think he moved but when he would just do the video LA now. Yeah, you do the videos in New York
Where like people would like put their bike in front of like a coffee shop
And he just wait for the bike guy to come out and he just yell at them. No, it was actually the opposite
He was a bike rider. Oh, that's right. I would attack people. That's right. He would really go after people maybe part in the bike lane
Yeah, I love those videos to where it's like a GoPro on a guy's body
And he's just like driving through New York screaming at people walking out of that way. Yeah
Every video I was just waiting for him to just dump me someone too. I was like, one of these is gonna be incredible.
He had the one out to LA.
Yeah, he had the one in LA where he looked like the terminator like walking down this car
and he had like, I was like, holy fuck.
And now he's like, he's a legit like killing machine considering he's a jujitsu master.
So you don't want to fuck with those people.
No, don't don't don't speed around Sean Avery's neighborhood.
That's just a PSA there.
Don't go out there.
But uh, but back to Brock, I think he's going to come back, right?
He's not done for the season.
They're not shutting them down.
No, they've said that he should be able to come back, but like you don't know after a surgery
if like what what was percentage B like will he maybe look at it and say like why am I coming back before the draft? I don't know after a surgery, if like what was percentage B, like will he maybe look at it and say,
like why am I coming back before the draft?
I don't know, there's just,
there's a lot of question marks is all I meant.
But the D is there,
they're gonna get in the national title game,
even if they lose the SEC title game, I believe.
And it's on to a three in a row, guys.
Three in a row, already counting it,
would be pretty crazy.
So I think a lot of Georgia fans are like,
they're excited and they've got high expectations,
but they also think, wait,
this team isn't as good as last year's team,
or maybe the year before that team.
But nobody's that good.
Right, makes it really easy.
Oh, speaking of Michigan and their sign stealing stuff,
is anything like that ever happened in hockey?
Was there ever like a time where like,
I think they're videotaping our practice or something?
Would you even be able to get an advantage on that?
Well, that's kind of what I agreed with
what Deon Sanders was saying.
Like, dude, you got our game plan.
Stop it.
And I think that hockey probably maybe even more so
than football, you can know, in hockey,
you do know exactly
what every team is gonna do.
And it's just up to executing and somehow trying to stop
what you know is coming at you.
I mean, last year, people had clips of 82 games
of the Euler's Power Play that was the best power play
in the history of the NHL, and nobody could stop it.
So I think hockey matters much.
The Knights did.
I think the Power Play was still pretty money.
Yeah, but they did win that series.
They beat them, but I was saying the power play in film.
So, so the oil is just so we can recap real quick.
Runners up in the Stanley Cup playoff last year.
And if the Stanley Cup was given out to just the power play,
they would have won it.
Yes.
Okay.
McDavid's got like four cups if that's the case.
So that's, yeah, let's just give him one
and now he's got the cup and we're good for everything.
If he never wins one, you're gonna have to come on.
Man, it's great.
He's gonna be a great one.
You called him for a great one.
The great one.
The great one.
I misspoke, I misspoke.
I think I had Euler's grade on my head
that a number began with nine, but no, no, no, no, no,
great one is Wayne Gretzky. nine, but no, no, no, no, great one is Wayne Gratsky, but guys
Speaking of no Stanley Cup
We had an all-time first ballot NHL Hall of Famer retired Joe Thornton. He never got that calm
He never got it. It's a business. I said that this said if he had a magic coin that R.A. would probably try to eat
But if he had a magic coin
And he could hand it to one player who never got the cup that deserve one his would have been Joe Thornton mine was Joe Thornton or Jerome again to guys that you look back both deserved it both went to cup finals it didn't work out for him but yeah I mean looking back I mean I'm sure mcdavids biggest nightmares if it all ends and he doesn't have a cup so that's why there's so much panic within ouler's nation in the fact that Leon Wright's side is next year's his last year of his deal.
McDavid has two years after this and then his deals up. So if you see a failure this season,
who knows what's going to happen with Leon and committing to the future there. So there's
some worry. I would give my magic point to you. That's so nice. You do. How, how insufferable would you be if you had won a cup?
Probably pretty bad.
Well, I think you're getting in the argument with this.
Yeah, I'd buy one of the cup.
You don't know what you guys are talking about.
I won the cup.
I know how many you guys won a cup.
Oh, nobody, yeah, I did.
Yeah, I kind of wish you had a cup just to fucking stick it
in everyone's face.
Oh, I wish I did too, buddy.
I appreciate that.
I got a silver medal.
That's my cup.
That's sad, that's really sad.
If we gave you, if we gave you the cup coin,
would you give it to Jumbo?
I couldn't, I kinda, I think I gave it to a gin loss
so that Bizz gave it to Joe and I gave it to a gin loss.
So I gave mine to you.
To me or even.
And, but that means you can't give yours to McDavid
if he doesn't win a cup.
I don't need to because he's still playing.
Yeah, we just said he's tired.
He's tired.
It was for retired guys.
It was for retired guys.
I should save yours.
Yeah, no, I'm going to give it to Ovi.
So we get to.
All right.
Never mind.
We don't mind.
Oh, they, they, they actually really had the, the wit reverse mush going on.
I said the capitals stink.
They're old. They're slow. They suck. And they've won three in a row since I said that. So thanks for i said the capitals stink they're old they're slow they suck and they've won three new roles and i said that so
things are looking up in capitals land but i still don't think they're going to
play off so would you like to retract that you just said that you were
attracted to your oilers take
no i'm not retracting that one because they beat the sharks which doesn't count
uh...
they beat somebody else shitty and then they had one good when i believe against
the devil's baby
but i still think capitals kind of suck well they might add a i'll add against the devil's baby, but I still think the capital is kind of suck.
Well they might add a I'll add a kind of on there.
How about that?
I think that's fair.
They might kind of suck this year and basically it feels to me as a caps fan like we're
treating the next two years as we're not trying to do a rebuild yet.
We're like we're putting off the rebuild and just focusing the next year and a half two
years on getting over to Gretzky's record.
Is that fair?
Yep.
I agree with that.
Biz argued that against me.
He really likes their team.
Things they're going to get in the playoffs,
talks about all the champions in that locker.
And which is a valid point.
But Backstrom had this really difficult, crazy hip surgery
to come back from and kind of hasn't looked the same
since he came back from that.
And I just think they're just older and slower not a great D. But I do agree with
you. My point was I think it's all about the OV goal chase and then they kind of restart.
Yeah, that's my personal Stanley Cup for the next two years just counting down to
Lovie. I mean, that'll be one of the most amazing moments in NHL history. A record that many
people said will never be sniffed never even be remotely
Close to getting broken and John Bootsagross from ESPN was the first guy. I think six years ago
Maybe long maybe seven years ago
He sent out a tweet with a breakdown on how OV could do it and I remember reading it like there's just no chance
And somehow it's gonna end up happening and it'll be in a mate
It'll be one of the coolest moments in the history of the sport.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Yeah, no, I agree.
It's gonna be incredible.
Yeah, so I mean, he's been the most consistent guy ever.
They've had how many years he got in the league in what?
2005?
2005?
Yeah, 2005.
And they still haven't figured out how to stop him on the power play.
How to like step into that office and cut that stuff.
No, it's nuts though.
And I don't know if you guys caught this,
but recently Austin Matthews scored his 300th.
He scored his 300th in like six more games than it took OV.
So it's like, whoa, and I think at the same age,
if not younger.
So like if Matthews continues and is able,
it's all about staying healthy,
which has been the incredible thing with Ovechkin is being that big and playing that physical
that he's never really missed a ton of time where Matthews has battled injuries here
there, but he's in a, he's a goal scorer like Ovi, so you never know. Yeah. Conor
Bardard's probably going to break it. Not willing to say that yet. Okay. Can you talk
me in nine games in pussy four goals. If you had
nine games, if you had nine goals in nine games, Frank Patrono and Anaheim, I would say it.
You said the first period you could tell with Bidard, right? Yeah. So like first period,
I retroactively, I said this guy's going to break Govy's record one day. You did? Yeah,
I did right now. Okay. Oh yeah, because the season hasn't started. Right. Yeah,
season starts. It's about to start. I think he's as advertised.
Yeah.
All right, so, uh, wait, I got one last question.
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Uh, who is your Stanley Cup final pick
and who do you have raising the cup?
So I picked the Edmonton Oilers, okay
They're too much actually like to in five suck a lot of people picked well
The St. Louis Blues were in dead last place like January 4th. Well, you saw those things getting American things given yeah
Yeah, yeah exactly I picked the Edmonton Oilers
The way the season starts obviously not ideal
I think that if I were to give starts, it's obviously not ideal.
I think that if I were to give another pick,
it's the Colorado Avalanche.
They are just, they seem possessed all the,
they had a tough little road trip here recently,
but they're, they're an elite team with unreal depth,
kind of like Vegas.
Vegas could do it again.
And then in the east, I actually think if Toronto,
or the Rangers won the cup, I wouldn't be surprised.
I know. So I know. I won the cup, I wouldn't be surprised. I know.
I know.
I was going to say, it was very good.
I want to give you 30 seconds to talk us into the Toronto Maple Leafs this year.
Austin Matthews, top five player in the league, Mitch Marner, an amazing playmaker, obviously
an amazing talent as well.
They got William Neelander, who's up for a contract and outstanding right now leading
his team and scoring. John Tavares as a veteran
can play that playoff style.
They got a goal tender Joseph Wall
who's kind of taken over the number one over Sam Sonaov
and he looks amazing.
He's his numbers in all his career NHL games
even though it's been short-lived,
are pretty impressive.
The defense is the one question
but they got Giordano who's a former Norver's but they got Gio Dano, who's a
former Nordstrom Fee winner, he's a leader, he's older, but he's smart, steady. Morgan
Riley is a top end talent. They got Klingberg, who's an offensive wizard to run the power
play. They have Bertuzzi, who came over from Boston and Detroit the year prior, who's
a playoff style in your face player. Max Domey's a pain in the ass. I think that they could do it. I would be surprised if they won the Stanley Cup,
but I also think that if everything broke the correct way and they got really good goal
attending, they could do it. Okay. Well, Hank, do you have any questions for Whit? Oh,
how much foam-mo did you have that you weren't in the Ryder Cup? That was that was literally
built for you. Yeah, I really want it. but the only thing I don't appreciate in it's it's I think it's you.
It's David's minahan. It's like everyone. Oh, Whitney's not here. Whitney's not at big brother at the office.
I had the NHL draft and the award show where we went and banked interviews and made content that you guys decided to
plan the rider cup during. Oh, nothing I could do there. Oh, yeah, yeah, I do a bank here and he knows
it and I told him do it in the fall. And then big brother at the office football season.
Big brother. First I thought I was going to be on vacation and then I realized it's
the draft and the awards and I can't go to both. I have to go to my real job where I worked 90 hours a week with Spitt and Chick-Las.
And then big brother at the office,
you guys planned that during Chick-Las cup.
Another just very smooth move by Barstool
did not have me or Bizz be able to be in big brother.
Sounds like you didn't say.
I did not go to because of my choice.
I went to because of my job and my profession
and having to be present in that and those moments.
Because I heard the meetings that took place where they said like months and months in advance,
hey, this is when we're going to do it and that Ryan Whitney was like, yeah, I'm in. Let's do it.
Well, I didn't know when the draft in the award was.
Yeah, they don't put that on a schedule.
So if the draft in the award weren't then, you would have been there.
Yes.
Not vacation? No. Because then when I saw
everyone going I was like, oh yeah, okay, I'm going, I'll go. Hank, why are you giving that
face, bro? I would have. I'm not. And I was wrong about the vacation time. But my thing was,
you should have had it in the fall. I understand though you had to get it out before the rider
company takes you guys like six months to edit stuff. So I understand completely. And in the fall, I understand though you had to get it out before the rider company takes you guys like six months to edit stuff. So I understand completely.
And in the end, I promise I would have been there had it not been during
a chicklets work trip, capital W.
Cause we have that question made it seem like he had a gotcha moment
there.
Not a gotcha.
Because I told you I was going to be on vacation on those dates.
Guys, you get one week vacation,
oh yeah, when you work this hard.
I thought you said that you took,
you took the summer off.
Oh, yeah, I did.
Yeah, okay.
There's a long week.
So one week vacation during the work,
it felt like a week.
Yeah, where'd you go?
No, we're golf.
It's golfed.
What's in that talking for a couple of weeks? Are you going to go into Dave's tunnel house?
It doesn't have tunnels.
If I'm invited, I would like to go check that house out.
And I do think there are tunnels there.
I don't think that gets made up out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's just so dummy.
Wouldn't even know if you paid that much money and didn't have tunnels, he should get
his money back because that's a bad buy.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel like the price was set at that point because of the tunnel.
That's the tunnel.
The tunnels are worth at least 20 million.
Easy.
You know for a fact that he heard the, the, the news break of tunnels in the house and
he probably called the real estate agent like, there's tunnels like he had no clue going
in for sure.
Yeah.
And then he says there isn't any.
So I guess he's been told no, but I'd like to believe there are.
Yeah, there are.
Yeah, there's tunnel. You're going to find Elio down there ripping a shirt off and in the tunnel during an over in the cup finals
Well, Elio did the best video because he when Dave bought a 42 million dollar house Elio did a video being like we made it we did it
We did it
Congrats to us can't believe we did it. All right Hank. What was your one question?
Were you in Ireland recently playing golf and follow up if so yes, how was it?
Oh, it was incredible. It was an unreal trick. What's up?
Is this work? No, this was not work
But I flew home from Ireland and then I had to get on a plane and go to Buffalo for chick. Let's go that's work ethic
That's showing up to do your job
It's leaving no man vacation to your work
So a bender in Ireland followed by a bender
in maybe the bigger drinking spot in the world
than Ireland buffalo.
That's when you know your earn in every penny
that's going into your bank account.
But I was in Ireland, it was beautiful.
Although it's crazy, you go to Northern Ireland
and they really, really hate Catholics a lot of them.
Like, they're on the back.
They fucking hate your guts.
You've even found the sign in just British flags flying everywhere.
So I enjoy doubling a little bit more when you get to the Irish,
you get to the Catholic and you get to enjoy yourself without some grumpy
northern Irish people in your face.
Yeah, I learned don't order an Irish car bomb when you're in Ireland.
They don't like that. It's not funny.
It's not funny to them.
Yeah, it's a little little travel advice from PFT.
They look at that phrase in a much different light
than what we would look at it in.
Yeah.
Did you go wing nuts?
What?
Did you go to wing nuts when you were in Buffalo?
No, we didn't even.
What the fuck?
We were busy.
We were all the jokes that we were actually busy.
Yeah, you worked too much.
We worked too much, bud.
But I went to another wing place.
I can't remember the name there.
Last time, last chick with the cup was phenomenal,
but it wasn't wing nuts. Is that your number one? Yeah, it's so yeah, it's the best. Yeah, what are they a sponsor? No, one of the best meals of all time
We sponsored them oh
Really? Yeah, we sold shirts and because the owners had an elitia. We're running it out of a night's a Columbus
Like they were literally running out of a kitchen in a night's a Columbus wreck haul
Okay, yeah, okay, no big deal. Fair enough. When's your winter next vacation Ryan? Oh out of a kitchen in a night's of Columbus Recall. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
No big deal.
Fair enough.
When's your next vacation, Ryan?
Next week?
I got February school vacation.
We're going to Florida for a week.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
So I swear to God, we got a Chico's trip to California
in two weeks.
We got a Chico trip to Atlanta the week after that.
We got a Chico's trip to Chicago early week after that. We got a chikletrip to Chicago early
December. And then I'm not doing anything. And then I'll try to go down to Florida to play golf
for like two nights in January, but you deserve. Don't hold me to that. Yeah, you deserve that.
I do. After all this grinding. I know. I mean, you guys, you guys work your bag off. I don't know
what you're doing. You both got 50 million in the back now. So fucking stop working so hard, guys.
Thanks. Gonna take, guys. Thanks gonna take thanks
Thanks putting in hours now and he's gonna just take all some rough. He's on the were I and Whitney
Panky and golf's more than me. Yeah, he goes more than everyone
He goes more than everyone. He goes more than Brooks Capka
Simulator's gonna be done today. I'm gonna have to test it out grind it out. Yeah. Yeah. No, hey who's your guys white whale right now for interviews
That's a good question Brady. Bella check will be good Kevin. I think you said Bella checked me last time
Yeah, I think there's ever a chance. Yeah, I think there's a chance. Okay. I would say yeah Kevin to ramp radio or Bella check
Sabin
Sabin if you could actually talk ball with us would be fucking awesome
It seems like every white whale at least for us.
It's like they got to be retired.
You're just never gonna get.
You're never gonna get them real.
Yeah, I know when you guys get Conor Baudard on,
I'm like, because he's so young.
I know.
And he's like, so doesn't want to step on any toes.
We might have to drag you in for that one.
Big pack.
I really load.
Yeah, I'll just say dumb shit.
And you that's what we do. We interviewed Logan Cooley who's a stud rookie on the coyotes. Future superstar actually sick. And he
was like, you know, shy young. He's 19 and business and I were complete fools. Yeah. Idiots. You just
made me think we had any other option there. Yeah, you just say dumb shit. They laugh and that's the
interview. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah. I can Yeah Tell these laugh and he's like these guys are fucking morons
Yeah, that's interview 101. Oh, you probably just wants to hang out with you
Yeah, I don't know about that everyone's the hangout with biz
I'm like the grumpy old guy that looks older than he even is so nobody wants hang out with me
They want to meet biz. I got family members asking if they can meet biz. Do you have to be like business shopper?
I want to go on when you go on these trips
Are you like do you act like is like you look after them?
No, there is no looking after Bizz.
You walk down the street, everyone right.
I know this sounds crazy, but I think if Bizz
walk down the street with like 10 NHL superstars,
he might get recognized more than all of them.
It's it's out of control.
I believe that.
So he's walking and he's talking to everyone and he's he's actually great
Like he stands and has conversation with everyone, but we're trying to walk to dinner and I'm always wherever we're going
Ten minutes before he arrives sometimes 20
If he gets a call from Wayne Gretzky
He has to like get up from wherever he is and be like yeah, I got you recently Gretzky called him
He just said he's like oh, it's Wayne or T wait hold on. I love it. Yeah, this is guy
He's a big shot. Yeah, I'm this guy. All right. Well, wait. Thank you. Can't wait to see you in December
Thanks guys. Yeah, gonna be great all the boys will be here last NHL thing. I'll say
What is it here? Okay, so these are my teams who can win the Stanley Cup
Vegas Golden Knights Los Angeles Kings Edmonton Oilers, Colorado
Avalanche, Dallas Stars, New York Rangers, Carolina Hurricanes, Boston Bruins, Toronto
Maple Leafs. That's it. Okay. Yep. No one from outside of that. So there's two teams
or three teams that if everything went right, Tampa, the Devils, and where is the other one?
You said the Panthers?
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay.
I like Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, but that's been a tough start too.
So there's, I think whatever I listed is the Cup winners and then three others, if everything
magically happened at some point, they could do it.
So I guess I got 11 cup winners.
Is there another counterpart in the next draft?
Yes.
And so I am a coaches advisor.
I can't talk to the players, but I can talk to the coaches who can then talk to
the players for the BU men's hockey team.
That's where I played for three years.
And they are an amazing team.
They've started a little slow, but it's going to be a special year.
They have a kid named Maclin Celebrini.
He's going to have a first-hand.
Maclin Celebrini.
I love it.
Maclin, what a fucking name.
He turned 17 in June or July, and he's dominating college all day.
He's 17?
It's big cat.
It's nuts.
It's absolutely fucking nuts.
And he plays all three zones.
He's like, he's defensively very like aware.
And then the second pick is a kid, Cole Iserman.
And he's going to BU next year.
So if Celebrini goes back to BU after being picked first overall,
then Iserman and Celebrini, we play together at BU
as the first and second overall pick.
So there are some young studs coming in the game.
Yeah. Jesus Christ.
I love 2006. He was born.
Maclin, Celebrini.
You know what's funny is his dad works very closely
with the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry.
If you Google his dad,
I think he's like a performance and strength coach type thing.
Director of sports medicine and performance
for the Golden State Warriors. Yeah.
And we're trying to get him on the pod to talk about,
you know, his career and raising this
Soon to be NHL superstar Rick Celebriani. Wow Maclin Celebriani. What an end?
His sister is 14. I believe she's the number one ranked tennis player in Canada. She's under 18
So they've and then his brothers a freshman at BU with him a good defenseman
So obviously there's something in the jeans of this family. Jesus, they got it all.
They hogged it all.
All right, Biz, you're the best.
Can't wait to see the couple weeks.
Oh yeah, I did.
I don't know.
Wait, you're the best.
I think I do that at least once every single time.
He does.
That's who he really wishes was on the show.
I want all you people listening.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not true, we specifically requested right. How, how could we do that? We knew Biz was gonna be on the show. I will you people listen. No, I would give it to you now to make you feel better
You guys are good
Thank you, my king, but you guys are good. Thanks. You want to give your coin?
You get in my coin too. All right. Thanks. Alright, so what's got two two cups? Well two coins that could
Silver medal and silver medal and
and
Almost a runner-up for the oilers. I should give mine to the
tibsinator. Oh, no, that was a bad one. That's another good one. That's another good one.
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Okay, let's wrap up with Jimbo's.
I hadn't read.
I have a Jimbo.
I always take the same number in the lottery ball.
Fuck off.
But for some reason, I didn't take it.
And now all my friends are making fun because I'm
a fucking moron yeah that hurt Hank I have a gym I need to get a travel credit card
my job is not that sounds awful no for like personal travel oh oh to get points yeah oh I'm
my points game is terrible oh yeah yeah you gotta realize bro. It's all about the points. What's the best plan miles?
I'll figure out that's no chase to gonna get so many overly detailed. I can refer you little bro. Oh
Yeah, no, I had a realization so I was booking some personal travel because I don't book that much personal
Thanks to any Christmas, man, like all it vacation. Family, do you guys care about family?
Golf.
Family.
Ha ha.
Well, we've done Cali.
Oh, so we're gonna see my family.
Tory Pines with my family.
Tory Pines with my family.
I bet you get some good points for golf.
I, yeah, whatever.
I gotta figure that out.
There's definitely a golf credit card out there.
Was that a bar for Halloween?
A bunch of boys in the bathroom and a guy walked in
with some glasses and a blind walking stick.
I asked a few Stevie Wonder.
Luckily he didn't hear me because months later,
I realized he was actually blind
as he used the walking stick to get to the urinal.
I probably left the bar.
Oh no.
Well, you could have just left the bathroom
and then what's he gonna do, find you?
Yeah, I mean, good news is,
he doesn't know what you look like.
Right?
Yeah.
It's also Halloween.
Halloween, you can't, and Halloween.
You know what, you gotta have a sense of humor.
Yeah, you gotta laugh.
And you know, it's Halloween.
Halloween.
Also, I feel like maybe he was doing the costume.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, like I think maybe he was actually,
I think you're right, I think he was just going
so far into character.
It would have been funny if the blind guy was like,
what do we all look the same to you?
Yeah. And like actually told you you were being racist.
Yeah. Not blindness.
That would have been funny.
I was flying with my dad to Chicago
for the Wisconsin Rutgers game a few weeks back.
As we were in the airport for a seven-day flight, our flight was delayed five hours, and
I went on the app to see if we could switch to an earlier flight.
I saw that there was one at nine for Noxter Cause, so I switched it.
Turns out the flight was at nine p.m.
Messing up travel when your dad puts you in charge of the plans is brutal.
Oh.
Yeah, but your dad just looks at himself as being like, okay, that's my fault
for putting my son into raising you.
Yeah, maybe you sit there and get a James Harden scoop.
That's sitting at the airport for that long.
Just cancel everything.
Just leave, go home.
All right, last one.
Last week one of my good friends was so generous
to offer me tickets to go to a called football game with him.
It would have been a great time and a lot of fun
But I declined because there was a world series game playing at the same time and I was expecting my team to be there
Well my team got bounce in the CS and now I feel like an asshole. Oh
Man, it was a lot of fun. We're on the field sick. It was a lot of fun being on the field for a major college football game
Is so much fun especially when you don't have any other obligations like your team in the world
series.
This is fake.
You made, made that narrative.
No one said that.
I asked you on Monday and you said, no, I'm good.
Correct.
Why?
What?
Because there was a world.
You are the one who said the why?
No, no, no, I know why you were good.
That, but like, you know, like football, that like, that's it. You don't like football?
That's, that's, you don't like football, Max?
I watched the, I watched the football game.
Hmm.
Hmm.
All right.
Will you watch it?
Where?
At a bar, at the bar.
Oh, the bar that you thought you're gonna watch
the world series at?
That's not true.
Why did you not go?
Because it was cold.
That, I was,
it was like that. It was like that. I just wanted to, you wanted to see the atmosphere.
We're gonna get drunk.
I just want to see the family's play in the World Series.
I'm right. Max can say I'm not right, but I'm 100% right.
You just spent 20 seconds trying to explain why you didn't go and you were unable to think
of a lie. That was wrong.
I tested before game six.
He thought there was no chance
the dime-bash from winning two at the bank.
No, but correct.
I did not think that we were gonna lose two at the bank.
I didn't think it.
I didn't think it.
I didn't think it.
And that's why you didn't go to the game.
Also not true.
You still haven't said why you didn't go.
I wanted to, you know, see the town bars,
you know, see what the atmosphere is like at the bar.
There's no booze in the stadium.
Interesting.
That is valid.
Yeah.
That's valid.
But that's not why.
I would not enjoy going to college football.
That's not why.
Yeah, no booze in the stadium is crazy.
I stupid.
I agree.
But that's not why.
We all know why
I'm in a I don't know what to do here. Yeah, uh Hank if you were gotten this no has your number ever come on
I don't have number. Yeah, you do numbers 17 18 31
I'll go with I'm like I'm wanting I'll go 71 I'm a first 17 I'm a memes you're gotten it
By the way three pre-fire fest I'm not I this is too much. I shouldn't have taken this much off my chin
Beard wise. I'm seeing myself shamed in there. it's bad. It's very to me too
Hey
89
89 Who's gonna be the first to get it? What have been hang on Sunday? I think it's gonna be the first to get it?
What have been hang on Sunday?
I think it's gonna be Jake.
Jake just finds a way.
We'll see.
Yeah, Jake finds a way.
Okay, we'll see everyone on Friday.
Love you guys. I know I'm to say I've said it anyway
Today is another day to find
Shine away
I've been coming for your lover
Hey, don't be Take on me, take me on
I'll be gone, good up to your dreams
He wants to say, I'm on his Senate, but I need some little weight Tell him I'm the one who's okay, from saying after me
I used to be better to be safe and sorry and sorry and sorry and sorry
I'm sorry.
Take on.
Take me on.
I'll be gone.
I'll be gone. Put it to a team
Let me sing, and we did a lot of things Just to believe that the reason was
There are all the things I've got to remember
You shine away
I'll be coming for you anyway
Take on me
Take me on, I'll be gone in a dream Bye!