Pardon My Take - Ryan Whitney Talking Stanley Cup Playoffs, Warriors And Nuggets Advance, Kentucky Derby + Jordon Update Of The Week

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Incredible weekend of sports as we had Game 7's(00:00:00-00:09:18). Warriors beat the Rockets and Nuggets take down the Clippers further cementing James Harden as the biggest choker ever(00:09:18-00:18:45). Pacers take Game 1 and the Kentucky Derby was an awesome sloppy mess(00:18:45-00:33:32). Who's back of the week including Scottie Scheffler and Lebron James injuries after the playoffs are over for him(00:33:32-00:51:20). Ryan Whitney joins the show to talk an incredible first round of the NHL playoffs, including an absolute stunner Game 7 in Winnipeg and Dallas(00:51:20-01:39:23). He ranks the remaining teams, who we should be rooting for to win the Cup and more. We finish with some kidney stone talk and Jordon forced her way into a Super Bowl commercial(01:39:23-01:57:23).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, May 5th. May the 5th be with you, PFT. We've got game sevens to talk about and the Warriors have survived and they're marching on. They've done it again. The Warriors are again skating by. They got into the play-in game and then now they they push it to game seven

I thought that this wasn't gonna go seven. I thought it was gonna be over in six credits the Rockets for fighting Yep, I I do enjoy watching van Viet play. I enjoy watching Shane. I'm big time Shane Goon fan. Yeah, he's one Yeah, I'm a Gooner. He's I mean Shane Goon is is is just a throwback where he has a vertical of one inch and every play to the naked eye could be a travel but he's so good around the hoop. But the Rockets, as I expected going into this series, they're a very good team. They have a very bright future. But as it happens in the NBA, you have to go through the wars. And that's kind of what happened in this series where they, they like, the Warriors won this series where they they like the Warriors won this series by I feel like the smallest margins because they quit in game five they

lost in game six when I think we all expected them to win the Rockets were throwing size of them Steven Adams Adam were you know zones at them had some great wrinkles to push the Warriors to the brink but at the end of the day when you get into a game seven and you have like your one of your best players jail and green score eight points you can't win with that. You can't win with that. And it wasn't even stuff it was buddy healed. It was the buddy healed game 30 points. He was lights out. And I just think the Warriors like they basically proved that they procrastinated this series. They did. That's exactly what they did. They took it all the way to the

end of game seven and then Curry just exploded in the second half. Yeah. And they went on a 12 to nothing run, I believe all in the fourth quarter. And that was kind of the end of that. Steph Curry figured out. By the way, for Buddy Hill now. Yes, we have 40 seconds left. He just hit another. He's nine for 11 from three. Steph Curry figured out, okay, yeah, I can, I can actually get to the hoop if we have our smaller lineup out there and Steven Adams, what'd he score? He scored a bunch of points on, uh, on Saturday, right? Yeah. He got, it was like him and, and Rudy go bear. It's like these guys, these big guys can play offense too. Yeah.

Yeah. The size bothered them. And then eventually the warriors figured out how to solve the two big lineup, which I feel like if this was seven years ago, they would have blown this Rockets team out. Oh, of course. The way that that team that the the old Warriors were engineered. But took them a little bit longer to figure out. Now we get Draymond Green and Rudy Gobert as not intended. Yep. These two teams don't like each other.

No love lost in this series. I'm glad that the Warriors continue to play. I think that you need to appreciate the greatness that is the Golden State Warriors as long as you can. We don't know how much longer Curry is going to be around. So just enjoy watching them play. Well, it's also going to be if we had lost Curry and LeBron in the first round, it would have been a very distinct, Oh, this is really kind of over, you know? So we get at least one more series with Steph Curry and the Warriors.

And again, the Rockets are, now, should they have worn the H-Town jerseys that weren't Game 7 jerseys? Absolutely not. We were sitting here when the game tipped off, and we're like, these are not Game 7 jerseys. These are type of things that you have to learn as an organization to get back to the promised land. It is cruel

though that the Warriors basically teased the Rockets. Steph Curry, I said this speech last week when I was basically broke it down that he killed the James Harden Rockets, let them rebuild, completely dismantle their team and then rebuild it back up and then he's still standing there at 37 years old killing them again again. Uh, and then to tease them, they tease them because I think the whole world thought that the warriors, especially with the way they treated game five, where they were like, we're not going to play the second half. We've got this in the bag. They didn't, they actually didn't, they didn't try out new things against the big lineup. It took them Friday losing at home to then go to Sunday and beat the Rockets soundly. And now we get

the Warriors next round. Yeah. Draymond Gobert is going to be awesome. Yeah. Jalen Green might have James Harden's old locker. And there might be something that's still in that locker because in the big moments, he seemed like he just didn't want to play. He just didn't want to be out there. Yeah. And they just didn't have enough offense. I mean they hit six threes tonight. I know that the Rockets were a little bit of a throwback in the fact that they would throw a bunch of size out there. But we got a goal. We got a goal. Winnipeg wins. We're going to talk to Whitney about that in a second. That was an incredible game as well. Wow, Blues, they gotta be sick after that.

But yeah, the Rockets have a bright future. They will be back. They could make a move for Giannis. I feel like Kevin Durant wants to be a Rocket, but the Rockets are probably like, we're good. In the future, you can go like real throwback with your jerseys if you're the Rockets in game. Correct. You can wear the Hakim jerseys.

Those would be awesome. You can't wear the the uh, the bubble letter H town or whatever that was. And I, it looked more like a Miami heat Jersey than it did a Houston Rockets Jersey. But it was just, I mean, again, Stefan, a game seven and Draymond and game seven who every single game in this series, he did something. He's, he spasmed his whole body at Fred van Vliet's face. That's what happens to me whenever somebody breathes on me. Yeah. Like that's a normal body reaction, I think. Yeah. And Jimmy Butler, I mean, like, they're just good. Yeah, but it was,

this is the crazy stat of the game, because Steph wasn't incredible shooting. He was, I think for the first quarter and a half, he had zero points. He ended up with 22. But I felt like the Warriors were like, Hey, we're going to use our guys to just box out their big guys and we have to get more active with our guards. Steph had 10 rebounds tonight. 10 rebounds. Yeah. Pretty damn good. Really good. And that was clearly, you know, something they were trying to do where in in Jimmy had eight rebounds. So it's like everyone else box out and you guys go get the boards. The buddy healed game. The buddy, Maybe the most athletic. Well, air bud 12 for 15. Yeah.

It's pretty insane. He was lights out. That's I love having a guy like buddy healed where it's like, you know, it's in there. We saw him in college. We know that at any point he could just go nuclear. He just got to step into the clay roll. Yeah. He was just do a clay impression. He had zero points on Friday night after we put him in our heart Also sometimes like clay. Yeah, sometimes like clay Okay, let's talk about the other game seven. We saw on Saturday night our nuggets Clippers Let's first say credit the nuggets

They were underdogs in this series the Nuggets. They were underdogs in this series. It felt like at times that they were not the better team and then they absolutely demolished the Clippers on Saturday night. And it wasn't even, I never thought, Jokic is so good that his greatness becomes almost this weird standard where if he doesn't have triple doubles, you're like, what's wrong with Jokic? And so even though he was great in this series, he wasn't like Jokic great, like out of this world, but the rest of the nuggets stepped up with Christian Brown was awesome. It was incredible. Christian Brown has become really, really good. Really, really good. Russell Westbrook were dead. Like they don't win this series without Russell

Westbrook. Yeah. Energy. Yeah. Sometimes with Jokic, it's like he's not the fastest all the time, get up and down the court. Having a guy like Westbrook to just go out there and go insane is actually a nice little boost for him. Yeah, and Aaron Gordon was awesome as well. So it was like the whole team kind of came together. Maybe the Michael Malone, who we like, maybe that firing was actually smart.

Or maybe they got to fire their coach again. Like before every series, get a new guy in there They have been pretty good since you got fired But the real story here is real quick before we get to the masterpiece that was handed by her good friend Michael Porter jr. Apparently can't even put his jersey on or take his jersey off Yes, so he has to have somebody that helps him do that. He's still playing hockey tough That was cool to see him out there Because I think a lot of people were questioning if he was gonna play or tough. That was cool to see him out there.

Cause I think a lot of people were questioning if he was gonna play or how much he was gonna play the series and then the other, this is a stat that I couldn't believe was real, but Jokic is the first player to average a triple double in the regular season and win a playoff series. Oh. Isn't that crazy?

I guess that would make sense cause I think Oscar Robinson yeah, didn't and then Russell Westbrook that year Yeah had not done it. Yeah, so I guess having really good players in her team can't help you win playoff series. Yeah But this game is about one thing James Harden who I Think you could have already made the case. He didn't need this game. But is he the biggest? Choker, I don't know if it's choker or just bright lights scares him away guy of all time because at this point it is now four different teams that he's done this with it's the same story every year it is

he's great in the regular season he can be great in the beginning of a series he even had 13 assists in this game, which is obviously distributing the ball, but he scored seven points. Seven points. And he even had us a little off the scent because in game six, which is technically an elimination game for the Clippers, he played really well. But then when the lights get the brightest, and it's game seven, he's a complete no-show, and it's not even, there's not even a debate anymore. It's more just like, is he, the only debate is, is he number one all time, and I think he is.

And I don't think it's necessarily even an insult to say that to him. No. Because I actually believe that James Harden is like, I don't want to work anymore. Yeah, I'm going to get paid essentially the same if I if I get eliminated now or if I get eliminated in two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. There's the bonus that kicks in. Some of those guys like hook up the training

staff to kick it around to some of the younger players or whatever. He doesn't really have any upside besides the glory of winning, which I don't think he necessarily cares that much about. I saw a perfect tweet for it. Philly the boss, shout out at Philly the boss. He said, James Harden is going to get you to the playoffs. The rest is your business.

Yeah, he's like, that's it. I get paid 9 to 5, punch the clock, regular season. That's my work hours. So I know when my work is technically done for the summertime. And I would rather be somewhere else Yeah, I just don't feel like working anymore and in in elimination games James Harden has been held under 20 points 12 times LeBron James in 29 career elimination games get so many times. He's been held under 20 points

Probably not zero times. Yeah zero times career elimination games, guess how many times he's been held under 20 points? Uh, probably none. Zero times. Yeah. Zero times. And if you look at his stats, like they go way down in game seven. Oh yeah. It's like a measurable thing. And a lot of times it's not like he goes ice cold.

He just, he just doesn't shoot. And I think this is the first time that there really is just not even anyone saying, oh, but the, you know, like the, oh, the, the, but the year that they lost in game seven in Brooklyn, the Kevin Durant foot on the line, he was very injured. True, but those aren't even discussed anymore. The hamstring, right? Yeah, it's just all, when you get to game seven, James Harden isn't gonna be there.

Yeah, it just is who he is. His last five elimination games games and that includes game six Yeah, where he played really well. He's averaging 14 points per game and his last five elimination game and I think maybe genius move by kawaii to to have James Harden on your team because this is the We did have healthy kawaii. Mm-hmm, and he got bounced in the first round as a favorite, so I don't know, like that was, I kinda wanted more out of Kawhi here,

and it didn't happen. And the good news is, like James Harden knows all of this, he knows, he hears it, he sees it, he knows what his legacy is. Kawhi, I don't think has a computer, so this won't bother him whatsoever listen strip club season Okay, James Harden. He's not he gets paid the same amount of money if he's at game seven or if he's in the club Yeah for James Harden strip club season for Kawhi. It's you know, we've imagined yes sitting sitting in like an empty room

It's control up to late season. He's in the basement at Severance. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, this was credits to the Nuggets. I thought the Clippers were going to win this series. I really did. I thought they were the better team and the Aaron Gordon game. And then this game was so weird too, because the Clippers were up after a quarter. And then towards the end of the first half, it just, they, the Clippers just started losing and then they start the second half and it was just Nuggets just ended the game then they start the second half and it was just Nuggets just ended the game. It was the end of the game. It was a 24 to 4 run. Yeah. And 17 of those were unanswered by Nuggets. And so it was

like, okay, they just didn't show up for the entire second half. And the score even, the score did that game a disservice. Yeah, no, it wasn't that close. Even though it was what, let's see, what was it? 19.19 point win. Yeah. It didn't feel like it felt like it was a 30-point kill a three-point loss Can I ask a question too about the NBA scheduling wise they place these series with some of the weirdest scheduling decisions where it's Like you play on Sunday, and then you don't play again till Thursday Why are the Nuggets playing on Tuesday night against the thumb that's an that's the most auto loss I've ever seen on a schedule ever are they not not playing Monday night? Oh no, sorry. Monday night. Yeah, I I'm sorry. The, the uh, warriors are playing Tuesday night. They're giving

them two one day. So yeah, they're playing Monday night against thunder and the third will be at the back gala. I, the thunder are going to kill them. I feel like the thunder, they've had what? 10 days rest. Yeah. Yeah. 10 days, 10 days to put the fucking t-shirt on. Yeah. He won't do it. He's still not going good. He won't do it. But yeah, that's there's also like a weird three-day gap in this series, too Exactly. So what we gave five and six where it's like what like like I'm sure I am very dumb I'm bad at gambling. I will look stupid in retrospect someone put this clip and make me look stupid and I'll own it. I put this clip and make me look stupid and I'll own it. The Nuggets in game one and the Warriors in game one, it feels like they're just going in to die.

They just played a seven game series, both a little bit older teams, and they have 48 hours to turn around and play a teams that have been waiting there for, I mean, the Wolves only a week, and then the Thunder for 10 days. Do you think Adam Silver watches games on TV? A commissioner should watch the games on TV. I think he just goes to them.

You probably go to them, but in order to really get the flow and the feeling of a series, you should be watching them on TV because you would know we can't have a three-day gap in when games are played. I was looking forward to watching this. It also doesn't make sense because I would understand the argument if you didn't have any games on Monday night you had to play a game But the Knicks and Celtics are playing Monday night Yeah, and then on Tuesday night the Cavs and the Pacers are playing so why why didn't you space it out? Whatever the stupid gripe. I understand that let's make some money off this great. It doesn't what's the spread on that game? I think it's nine and a half the Thunder. Yeah, that feels pretty good. I just

that I know it's a rest first Ross But a seven game series and then you get two days off the Thunder don't you have to go away from altitude They shouldn't get rust No, I'm not care. Yeah What what the end of they won't get rust they will get they might get rust they might get rust first rust They might get rough. It might get rough. Russ versus Russ. They might get Russ. They might get Russ. Russy.

It is crazy to think about just that we're, whatever, however many years, how many years ago were the Thunder in the finals? 2012, I wanna say. With James Harden. Right, I'm saying, and this was Russ versus James Harden in game seven, and Russ has become, not a joke, but there's, he's coming off the bench. Well, he is hilarious. And James Harden is just doing his thing, losing game seven and Russ has become not a joke but like there's he's coming off the bench

he is hard is just doing his thing losing game seven James Hard was the sixth man on that team though wasn't he yeah so it wasn't like they were counting on him for anything no that's why they're able to get the finals yeah he didn't do anything in the finals if I if my memory serves me correct uh all right last, and by the way, we have awesome 40 minutes with Whitney about everything. So we taped after the Winnipeg game. So we got it all. We got all the hockey. Recapping round one, previewing round two.

Cavs-Pacers. Pacers, they're fun. That was a fun game by the Pacers. Respect the Pacers. I don't know if they can win this series because I don't know if they can shoot 52% from three. Yeah. And have the Cavs miss all their threes. That's the difference in this game. Yeah. But the here's what the Pacers do. And I like thoroughly enjoy watching the Pacers play. They play, they sped it up even more today, which gave the Cavs some problems. And everyone's good.

Everyone's good on their team. You can make the case that they don't have a top five player, and I'd agree with that case, but everyone is good. And Hal Burton was playing pretty damn good defense, which everyone talks about as defense. And Andrew Nemhart was incredible. He was five or six from three. All their starters scored scored double digits and they're just a fun team to watch and I don't know if this was I don't think the Cavs should panic because again they're not going to shoot what did they shoot from three I think they shot they shot 23 percent from three and the Pacers shot 52 percent yeah the Cavs are nine for thirty eight from three that's probably not going to happen but the Pacers are one of

those weird teams where they they play with like a Lot of teams don't play with that type of pace in the playoff Who got hurt on the Cavs that hunter? Uh, I didn't see who got hurt memes Help us out memes memes Max is in Hawaii Vacationing it up Help us out memes

Somebody got banged up. Oh, yeah, I know Hunter got pushed in them in in midair was Darius Garland's O'Grandon's toe Yeah, Garland's got a bad toe. He might be out They said he would be out one to two weeks if this was the regular season with a toe What about what about a bad toe? Is it turf toe is it would toe what if he was LeBron would he play game two no no all right shit? And I did see Darius Garland got pushed He got shoved midair took a bad fall, but I think he's okay

There's I'm reading a report right now or sorry. That was hunter hunter gunner per Jared Greenberg Garland's toe sprain is a significant concern for the Cavs If this was a regular season Garland would have been shut down for at least one to two weeks. Oh boy Shit Hank. Are you Hank is fist pumping? No, not fist pumping never for injuries I want to beat I want to be teams at their best. Okay listen The Pacers don't scare you. You love the pace. I do I love watching them like they play fun That was a very fun game to watch. I think the Cavs are so good. I was it was I it's two

Okay teams going at it Okay, I love it. I love it Hank talk that shit Hank Are you nervous about the Knicks? No. Game one, Monday night at the Beckgallit. Mr. Bing Bong is gonna be in your face. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see a Cjarian person Not worried about the Knicks. Not worried about the Knicks. Even if we lose, I'll say it right now If somehow we lose game one, we could lose two games and I wouldn't be worried. If you go down to 0-2 0-2, not worried. If you go down to 02. 02, not worried.

I'll say it in advance. So not worried. Okay. Yeah. The other story we had was Greg Popovich officially retires as head coach of the Spurs. He's going upstairs. That doesn't mean to heaven. No, he's going upstairs just in the building.

Yep. I think we're actually going to have our good friend Kirk Goldsberry on Wednesday, so we'll have some pop stories. But 29 seasons, five titles, 1,422 wins. Pretty crazy. Also like a pretty wide, deep coaching tree. Not only GMs, but coaches. I saw it and I laughed because on his coaching tree was Jim Boylan.

I love that. Like, leave that off. Yeah. Get because on his coaching tree was Jim Boylan. I love that like leave that off Yeah, get that off the coach technically. Yes, it is on there, but you don't you don't have to say it out loud Yeah, there's a few gay. Let me let me find the the tweet there's a few names that like there if you're a coach and you have a coaching tree you should have a little bit of a Bar where it's like, you know what? Let's keep this guy off. So he had bit of a bar where it's like, you know what, let's keep this guy off. So he had, uh, jock Vaughn is another one. Maybe you keep off Jim Boylan, Will Hardy, uh, PJ Colesimo, Mike Budenholzer, Joe Pronte, Mike Brown, Brett Brown, Eme, uh, James Borrego, Mitch Johnson, Becky Harmon, and then he had a Sean Marks, GM and Messina Euro. So pretty good. You don't need Jim Boyle it on. Yeah good

It's like when you're talking about Belichick, but you don't have to say Romeo Cronell. Yeah, great coordinator, but maybe don't bring them up Yeah, and people are now debating if PJ Cronso was not on his tree, but whatever I saw the graphics sports Illustrated tweeted so I'm just going let's go with the graphic on go with the fucking graphic Yeah, so I mean pop good for you can't tweet anything these days without having it to be debated endlessly. No people get mad about everything Wait, so why are they saying PJ's not on the tree? Ah, cuz he maybe was officially like he was I don't know if he he started before which would make sense He started he was a college coach. Yeah, it was a coach before But then went to pop I don't know so we got rehabilitated pop. Yeah, just like but that's technically not his tree.

Sarkeesian could be a Nick Saban coaching tree guy. Right, right. I understand the argument of you can't do a rehabilitation tree. Yeah. That's a separate tree altogether. Mm-hmm. Is the rehabilitation tree. Yeah, because he coached, PJ was an NBA coach, a college coach before he was a Spurs assistant, but he did get rehabilitated for five years. He did. So after he got choked him in hard and big, big choke guys. Yeah. Uh, you know what he is? He's not, he's like a tree that grew, that grew like in a pop's yard. And then when they cut down pops tree, then now his tree has more sunlight.

Yes. So it grows taller. Exactly. Stuck Kentucky Derby, thanks to our guy Randy Moss. He'll be back on for the pre-eateness. He did tell us sovereignty. Make sure he's in your exotics. Yep.

That was, I liked the mud. The mud made it so much fun. It's fucking crazy. It was a great race. It always makes me laugh, too, to see everyone get super dressed up to go to the derby, knowing that they now have to deal with some of the mud. Right.

On all their shoes, their clothes. That's always a nice twist. Every single horse in this race was a descendant of secretary. Did you know that? Yep, I did. That's kind of wild. Crazy. That horse fucked. Yeah. So they all kind of did steroids? Yeah.

Yeah. They got the steroid DNA. Yeah. But it was a very like Thrilling race like the journalism and sovereignty down the stretch fighting Was awesome and again it was like 20. I mean by is it to by his it was my pick. It's good horse he It hurt walking away being like if they just did a hundred more yards. Mm-hmm might have had it What are you saying? D Hank dumb question? I was trying to figure out when I saw the secretary graphic is how like are they equal descendants? And how is it is it great great great great great great great great? I don't know how many greats are involved No, he's just got used for so many different horse race horse

horses that It's they're all like you save it like yeah that no that's I was thinking about that too like like when you just have Like can you still use it what you should do if you have a horse that wins the Kentucky Derby? You need to jack that horse off like six times a day and then freeze all the sperm and then that way because I feel Like if you could get just a direct pregnancy from Secretariat right now, that'd be worth way more, right? Than just getting like his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandson's sperm. Okay, so I'm reading it right now.

We'll ask Randy this when he comes back on. You can do it now. You couldn't have done it when Secretariat was jizzing. That's why you gotta save some just just in case one day the technology will exist. Technology didn't exist when secretary it was in his jizz hay day. But maybe doing anyone had the foresight to just like know it and keep it in the freezer. They should have. Oh yeah that would be good. Yeah. And then like every time you move you have to move the industrial strength freezer and then the moving guys like what is this giant thing

that you've got in your basement. Oh that's horse cum. Yeah. Yeah. It's like an unopened pack of cards from the 60s. It's like, Oh, we got we just found in this freezer like authentic secretariat cum. Yeah, that'd be worth a shitload of money right now. No, but that's that those they're all different levels of related to secretariatariat and they're probably also related to Seattle slew too. Yeah, I mean, I know there's a couple American Pharaoh Babies in this race, I believe at least one. Mm-hmm Yeah, so that was that wasn't a dumb question I'll say this Sandman took my breath away when Sandman walked across this. Yes. That is a that is a good-looking horse

Yes, the gray very spooky looking like a ghost Yeah, there's also I think there's one There's a story. I think it might be Sunday silence. I can't remember. There's basically one Horse that basically started horse racing in Japan like yeah, like all the all the horses in Japan are Related to to one horse Genghis Khan's horse. Yeah, gang's cons were also Did you guys see? journalism jockey Umberto

Raspoli his wife. No, that was very funny. She they did like a little Both of them were standing there with their kids very nice. They're talking to him He's five feet His wife was attractive. I think he's only like five four She looked like a center next to tower over him crazy. I don't know if you can pull it up memes But it was a very fun and they did the interview for like three minutes and it was just it was crazy to see it You just forget how small jockeys. They're very very small. Yeah, this is nice picture of them on it Oh, yeah, that is a massive height difference. Massive. But then she's only, yeah, it's like, I tweeted

about it and someone, I think Stanford Steve text me, she's like, she's actually only like five five or five four. They've got a great picture of him carrying her. Yeah. It's like, don't do that, man. You're going to blow your back out. It's very funny. All right. We found it means you can put it into the show. Maybe the the from the telecast Did you see the picture? of the Spurs rookie of the year's winners Yes, Tim Duncan. Yeah, and when be it was Tim Duncan when B Robinson in Stefan Castle and Tim Duncan not only doesn't look like you ever played basketball. He's got his hair out and he's like beard but Tim Duncan and David Robinson are seven-footers and they look like they're

511 Crazy, it's not he's a freak. Yeah, he's such a freak Did you guys know that that a human can beat a horse in a long-distance race? I believe it and like a 26 mile or there's a race that they get hired every year over in England somewhere It's it's man versus horse and man wins like 20% of time That's crazy. Yeah, it is not built for distance like us. Um, all right others Riding the horse obviously. Yeah, so much riding horse. Yeah, so that is I guess that does I Think so much riding but that would throw a little wrench into it where it's like yeah, it's not just the horse

They're also pulling a human. Yeah, But still, fuck horses, we're faster. And shout out our guy Randy Moss, who we'll have back on for the preakness. All right, so we're gonna have, we have Whitney talking to all the hockey, we have Who's Back coming up. I had one other thing, similar to the Rockies thing that we brought up,

fuck the Monforto brothers? Yeah, the two guys. Fuck them. They got one guy that looks like a penis. Chuck and, Chuck and, I can't remember their names. We're gonna get more on that,. Fuck them. I think I have one guy that looks like a penis. Chuck and Dave, I can't remember their names. We're going to get more on that, but fuck them. We should just mention the fact that Aaron Judge is, it's insane what he's doing and it's May.

Because now May is when you start to pay attention and be like, oh shit, from like around the league. Like, oh man, this this guy Aaron judge is hitting 423 with 11 homers sitting 423 there's I looked it up there are 20 guys total hitting over 300 in the entire Major League Baseball and Aaron judge is hitting over 400 do it in October And he actually did kind of do it in October last year. Yeah, it wasn't his fault But also I saw we're wasn't his fault except for the air he made in the game that they lost. That's true. That's completely blow the world series. That's a valid point. I think that's one thing that would get America way back into baseball. It's like you remember the McGuire so hitting 400 hitting 400. Yeah,

if we're on 400 watch in August, people are gonna be watching baseball again. Yeah, 400 watch would be fun. Yeah. It would be very fun. But yeah, he's, I mean, it's crazy. How many, there's, I don't even know what the math would be. How many major league baseball players are there, like batting, like 400 active, right? Like, you know what I mean? Let's see, minimum. Nine times 32.

What are the minimum, okay, 502 plate appearances to qualify for a batting title. Okay. So I assume that's when a 400 would reach. Yeah. Like peak. How many plate appearances does Aaron Judge have this season? Let's see. Aaron Judge.

We're missing, we're really missing Max being able to Google things slower than what we're doing right now. Yeah. He's way better at it. Yeah, he's way better at it Yeah, he's way better at not getting it Aaron judge has right now 125 at bats. Okay, so about about a Quarter of the way there. Yeah, he should shut it down. Once he reaches that number Yeah, that make everybody so mad that would make everyone so mad. Mm-hmm if he gets his mysterious like midseason injury also That would make everyone so mad. If he gets his mysterious mid-season injury.

Also, uh. Technically 400. Yeah. Just a weird story from baseball. Apparently the Rays, Steinbrenner Field, where they're playing this year, is the craziest wind possible. And they're complaining about the wind, the Rays. The Rays are?

Yeah, there was an article. I couldn't read it because of the paywall, but it said, Rays facing more than opponents when hitting at Steinbrenner Field, frustrations including varying winds have started to impact players and get them to change their style. Well that's a valid complaint because the wind only blows when the rays are up. Correct, correct, correct. That's a crazy thing though to complain about the wind. Mm-hmm You can't complain about the wind

No, I can't complain about the wind. You gotta just let the wind go. Go let the wind do its thing. Wind is real Yeah, wind is real. You just gotta let it go. You gotta let it do its thing Okay, let's do who's back of the week and then we have Ryan Whitney and then we have Jordan talk after Ryan Whitney before lottery balls. Okay, before we get to who's back of the week, Game Time NBA playoffs are here and the only place to buy hard to get playoff tickets is Game Time, the official ticketing partner of the Barstool Sports. With killer last minute deals all in prices, views from your seat and their lowest price guarantee. Game Time takes the guesswork out of buying NBA playoff tickets. Prices on the app actually go down the closer it gets to tip off. You can save up to 60% when buying last minute tickets.

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think it tied the record or maybe broke it by one but it's got to be devastating to have like the best week of your life and not even sniff coming in first. Not even sniff. What I love about Hank is he's wearing his Sunday red right now because you played, you look like, you look like tiger on Sunday. Thank you. Yeah. How'd you shoot? I played pretty well. I got nine holes in before I came back for the, for the pod. Love that games, games trending upward. I'm, I'm here. We're here for the Beck Gala, entertain some clients. I had a great time. Yeah. Didn't a Bryson have a really good back nine today too? Yeah. Today, yesterday they were in Hong

Kong, but he, he won live a lot of, a lot of good storylines heading into the PGA championship. Yeah. Which is when I think it's net not this upcoming weekend, but the weekend after love that Scotty Shaffer. Did you guys see his post game? Like I, Scottie Scheffler, uh, it doesn't seem like the most emotional guy, but it's his hometown, uh, tournament. And he had his son who was born. He missed this tournament last year cause his son was born, uh, right around this tournament. Remember there was the whole we're not going to play and then it took a while. We love Scottie Scheffler but it was funny because they gave him a picture of him with Byron Nelson when he was six years old while holding his son and he started to get a little

emotional. It was like they had to plug the computer back in. It was good to see him get a little emotional. He might be on that Fuck You Tour right now he might be on the fuck you tour He's dialed. I did say he's got to get the fuck you tour going Yeah, he shot a sixty one sixty three sixty six sixty three for a thirty one under insane insane He was it was funny. I was tracking it because I was like you could see right when he started on Thursday I think he started the front nine like he was I was like you could see right when he started on Thursday I think he started the front nine like he was he was like 800 before he yeah 29 yeah before he could even blink and I went to look at like the the odds and he was like maybe four holes in this is after

someone else had started the day I don't know like 900 to finish the day four holes in he was like minus 150 and then like nine holes in he was like minus 2000 to win the day. Four holes in he was like minus 150 and then like nine holes in he was like minus 2000 to win the tournament. Did you see that shot that he had of the bunker? It was a three iron out of the bunker on a par five that he stuck to like 10 feet. It's insane what he's doing. He's so good. He's so good. Good who's back Hank. Thank you. Yeah. Great who's back Hank.

PNT. My who's back the week is Alcatraz. Yeah. Great. Who's back? Hank. Thank you. My who's back the week is Alcatraz. Oh, Alcatraz is back, baby. They shut that fucking island down. And about 30 minutes ago, Donald Trump put out a press release said for too long, America's been plagued by vicious, violent and

repeat criminal offenders who never contribute anything other than misery of suffering. That is why today I am directing the Bureau of Prisons together with Department of Justice, FBI and Homeland Security to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders. Now, Alcatraz, the prison that's in the San Francisco Bay.

Excuse me, are you talking about the rock? I'm talking about the rock. This is what's most interesting to me about reopening Alcatraz is the rock is back. And if you haven't seen rock it may it might be the best movie ever made brock-hawg's joint I think it actually will mark it right when I just go home and fuck the prom queen it is You're right. It might be the perfect move. It is the perfect movie. It's got everything Sean Connery Nick Cage prisons terrorist terrorist planes are weird Nick Cage prisons, uh, terrorists, terrorists planes, uh, weird, uh, biological weapons. Yeah. That looked kind of delicious. Yes. When he does as simple as the weapons and it's those like green glass balls with, with the poison side. I just want to snack into

one of those bad boys. It looks like a big Jolly Rancher. The rock rock. Uh, so yeah, Alcatraz is back. Fun fact about Alcatraz. Did you know that it did not have a death row? I did not. Even though it was like was like you know for some of the most badass criminals it wasn't like a place that they would actually execute you but it sounds like they're going to enlarge it they're enlarging Alcatraz so it might they might put in an electric chair or something there I don't know but yeah Alcatraz the prison is back that is pretty cool which does suck because I'm assuming that they won't still have tours there anymore

Yeah, I would say they probably won't oh by the way It was Michael Bay not Bruckheimer Michael Bay and Bruckheimer went like they went round You know bar for bar for like the entire 90s just being like who's gonna have the coolest summer movie who did con air? Is that Bay? I don't know or is that Bruckheimer? let's do a little quick you look up you look up brockheimer I'll look up Michael Bay okay brockheimer because it was it was like everything every summer you bike all right which movie is gonna be so sick this summer Michael Bay what did he have what did what a brockheimer brockheimer joint okay so if we're going in the rock might be the most and I guess catch me if you can like the most watchable TV movies of all time. All right.

So I count the early 2000s as the nineties as well. Yes. So basically I came to this conclusion the other day. The last time like America was like truly America's was when we were selling the H two Hummers that were just they were, they're just like military vehicles and people were driving it to like Whole Foods. Yeah, it's like Schwarzenegger has one of these, so I need one too. Yeah, when we were just doing shit, big shit just for the fuck of it. Yeah, so here's what we're looking at from Bruckheimer in the mid 90s. This is an incredible run.

Oh man, this is gonna be actually, this is, I'm excited to see what you have, but I've got some good ones Michael Bay I'm not even gonna start with Crimson Tide. Okay, I won't even mention crimps. That's actually just a good movie Like that doesn't even that's not really a product doesn't count for our house. Yeah what we're talking about Okay. All right. That was his indie film. Listen to this three movie run. Okay we had the rock No, wait, that's Michael Bay bro Kramer. Oh, they both did it. They both did it. No, wait. That's Michael Bay.

Brookheimer. Oh, they both did it. They both did it. Oh, that's hilarious. So we're idiots because he's listed as the Rock. Okay. All right. But here we go.

Wait, tell me Armageddon's not on there. The Rock, Conair and Armageddon. Okay, so he did Armageddon. So they're the same person. Yeah, because my three were bad boys. The Rock, Armageddon. Top Gun. That's pretty damn good. That's pretty awesome

Pearl Harbor bad boys to Transformers These guys rock. Yeah that wait so they did Did they do yeah, I think drunk. I were produced and my career directed. Yes, I've had team duo Yeah, so they basically were like we're both so sick at this. Let's just do it together So here we that's why the rock and Armageddon are two of the best summer movies of all time the Rock Con Air Armageddon Gone in 60 seconds Then we're looking at national treasure

Yeah, these guys are the best You mean you just named so if we just went through if we combined them Yeah, bad boys the Rock Armageddon gone in 60 seconds blackout down Pearl Harbor Transformers shout out Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer. Oh shit. There's another big one that we left out what big one kangaroo Jack. Oh We got to talk to Jerry about it. It's like Jerry by the way, just probably thought like Jerry Jerry's gonna be my new Nick cage Yeah, little little promo. So we're gonna be down in Scottsdale for the bet gala Hank's already there and our good friend. Mr Bing bong Jerry O'Connell will be there So we'll have I think the red carpets gonna be live streamed and then we'll have clips of us watching game one

Are you nervous at all about mr. Bing bong game one? No, I'm excited. I'm excited to see him in person I know I'm excited for the series. Are you nervous all that ESPN all 11 analysts picked the Boston Celtics? That makes me a little nervous. I don't like that. Yeah. Are you nervous at all? That Shams is reporting that, uh, the cells are going to make big changes in the off season. No. Okay. That's interesting though. I don't know why they would do that.

Well, cause I think financially, there's interesting. I don't know why they would do that. Well, cuz I think I'm sorry. Yeah financially there's like a luxury tax implication that I don't I don't understand but I do understand that could be a problem don't understand any of the money No, none of it makes sense to me. Okay, good who's back the rock the rock the rock my who's back I have two actually have three ones real quick Jim Harbaugh just back because he went on Rich Eisen show and he said that He woke up like in the middle of the night the other night and just said to himself I have to get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame That was a real thought that he woke up in the middle of the night with I love that

So that means that that is a sign football is coming. I'm getting very close to my first I can't wait for college football tweet. I wait till I feel it. I almost felt it the other day. This afternoon I had a strange feeling big cat and I was thinking that I should be excited right now. There was something about the clock that I was like, I'm not as amped up as I need to be right now. What's missing in my life? I looked at the calendar. We are now Exactly four months away love it from NFL Sunday I love it four months from NFL Sundays at the time. It was the witching hour Yeah, and that I was missing my life was missing

You know the uncertainty the impending doom the excitement of the witching hour Yeah, and we're so close to being back so close to be back also football related Abdul Carter He just can't pick a number he went from saying he wanted Lawrence Taylor's number and then he was like no Lawrence Taylor was like nope you can't have 56 it's retired that's the whole point of being retired and then he's like alright how about Phil Sims because I wore 11 in college and Phil Sims like also no pick your own number man what is I addicted to just is is Abdul Carter the guy everyone knows like he only he only wants to hit on

your his friend's girlfriend I don't know he's is Abdul Carter a loser I it's very weird guy of all time I mean to do to number the first one I get it you know hey linebacker I want to play you know Ed Scher I want to play you know edge washer I want to shoot my shot you know Lawrence Taylor maybe be cool if he was like you know what this would be awesome yeah you'll live up to the hype but then be like no you know what I want 11 too you should not ask Lawrence Taylor for the number though no no I that's all he's got yeah he's definitely not he's an awesome football player I'm just pissed off that the Giants haven't, but still very weird behavior to on day one, go into your new company and be like, I want the numbers of the two most famous guys that everybody loves.

Right. And again, the first one, I get it. Take your shoot, your shot. The second one, like Penn State fans were like, well, he wore 11 in Penn State and that's the meaningful number because you know, LeVar Arrington and Michael Parsons. Still, it's weird. Well, that just means that he's a serial other people's number guy. Yeah. Yeah. He can't, he can't go his own way. And you can be whatever number you want in the NFL now. They don't care. Yeah. So just pick any, like literally any other number, any number, any number. Uh, and then my last who's back is we, we,

we didn't talk about it because it came out, I think it was Friday. It came out. Um, I hate to report Friday it came out. I hate to report this, but if there had been a game seven, Lakers, Timberwolves, LeBron James would have not played. Yeah. So we had the sprained MCL, right? He has a Pretty much sprained MCL. Sprained MCL.

Doctor's never seen a knee like that before. Dante DiVincenzo jacked him up over the middle, sprained MCL, did weirdly play the last eight minutes of the game looking completely fine, but then after the game was limping in the hallway and the report came out and said, hey guys, just so you know, he wouldn't have been able to play even though to LeBron's credit he like has never missed any playoff games. So that's a shame. Weird timing. He's never missed any playoff games but he would have missed a lot of playoff games had the series not ended. Correct. He's like the least healthy guy after the season's over. Very weird timing. It's it's basically

the opposite of how they do it in hockey where you basically have to like, you know, a guy is injured for an entire playoff run. And then after the playoffs, he doesn't say it or any of his people say it. There'll be like a press release from the team being like, yeah, actually, uh, he was playing the entire hockey playoffs as a quadriplegic. Yeah. You get to be back in three months. You get like a press release from a hospital that just operated and be like, we have to notify you about this legally. He didn't want us to tell anybody, but you should just know because he's taking up five of our surgeons time right now.

We had to amputate his leg. Yeah, he actually played the entire hockey playoffs with two broken legs and no lungs. So with LeBron, it's interesting because the whole building in your narrative, your excuse after the fact is something he's done a couple of times. But this is one case where I don't think anybody was on LeBron's ass about it. No LeBron's ass was his 40. His ass was clean. Everybody was looking at Luca. Yeah. Like Luca was we were all talking about Luca is fat. And then

LeBron's like, Oh, also, hey guys, by the way, injured by the way, my, my MCL is made of dog meat now. Yeah. And it's crazy because like LeBron not the biggest LeBron family. He is 40 like the fact He's still doing it at 40 is insane. Yeah, I don't think anyone expects LeBron to be 30 year old LeBron anymore So it was totally unnecessary Maybe they just have maybe his team just has like a calendar reminder and they didn't double check. They're like, Hey, it's, it's a may early may. Let's make sure that we put out that press release of an injury and they forgot to double check being like, do you sure you need this, this, this year? Yeah, it was just a calendar invite. Yeah. If they accepted it's, it's weird. LeBron, I think he is like, yes, he flops and he embellishes things. But when it comes to playing games,

he's tough. Like he's, he's played through a lot of injuries before But he always has to remind us yeah that he's injured. Oh and there's and to not play a hypothetical It was just so extra to be like if game six had happened tonight Yeah, not be playing sucks because I had the over and his points scored in hypothetical games. Oh shit Yeah, sorry for your loss bad beat. I apologize. Uh, okay Let's let's talk some hockey because we had a great hockey weekend We're gonna do it with Ryan Whitney our good friend And then after Ryan Whitney before lottery balls, I think we're instead of a Monday reading until this entire Escapade dies down. It will just be Jordan of the week because yeah, we have a new story

We do will finish this is the worst one by the way. After Whitney. This is the worst thing she's done. Yeah. I thought we were doing stones of the week. Oh, we'll do stones of the week too. We'll do stones of the week and Jordon of the week. But before we get to Ryan Whitney, PFT, you had a couple of ads.

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He holds the record, he has the crown. It is Ryan Whitney, very special guest. And it's perfect timing, because we just watched the Winnipeg Jets win a double overtime to complete the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. And Whit, we want to talk about the whole weekend, because we had two great game sevens, incredible game sevens. But let's start with this game. I don't even know what to say. They scored a goal with 1.6 seconds left to force overtime.

I mean, what even, how does that happen? Tell me how that happened, how that happens in that moment. Who needs drugs when you can just watch the Stanley Cup playoffs, guys? It's true, it's true. It's actually at this point, every year you're saying first round's nuts, first round nuts. This was the craziest first round I think of all time.

A couple of people disagree with me on Twitter, but a lot of people were like, no, he's right. This was madness. And it ended off in perfect fashion. I mean, it basically was done. It was dead from the beginning of that game with Winnipeg, St. Louis. Winnipeg had nothing. I think they had three shots in the first period. St. Louis dominated game six at home with Gruden in the building. And they come into Winnipeg, it's like, hell a buck can't save the puck. He's got like the yips like in golf as a goalie.

He gets pulled in three of the games. I mean. The fact that this was maybe not even the craziest series, it's just wild. That tying goal, pretty lucky actually. If you notice, Ehlers took a shot. He went to take a one-timer and whiffed on it. It goes right back to him. He slides it over to Kyle Connor who I think whiffed on a shot himself, but it goes right to Perfetti, his second tip in golf from Kyle Connor and it was over and it was done. And if Ehlers doesn't maybe whiff on that first one-timer, it might get to the goalie

and he makes a save or kicks it out and that's it. So just the biggest game of inches. But Winnipeg had nothing in that first period, completely turned it on. And I feel bad for the Blues players in a way. They had They had that thing and to pull the goalie and get two goals, getting one that happens, but to get two, I'm still kind of like all over the map. My brain is yeah, I'm shocked. I was shocked for the entire overtime. I was like, I can't believe we're here. I have a question about Halle Buck and then a overtime question, but do you think there was any chance they were going to maybe pull him in that first period again? Because what, where's the line? Because he

was, it was Jekyll and Hyde all, all series when he was away and then they start game seven and it looks like, Oh fuck, he's just not seeing it again. Or like, do you think that ever was discussed? Oh man, I was kind of 50-50 after the second goal. Because the first goal was like this two on one weird play and he's kind of like desperate to get over. Pareko passes it back and Kairu... So it wasn't really on him. But then the second one, it's like, I don't know, I feel like you got to save that shot.

I don't think it was deflected, but credit to Scott Arneal. I mean, people were, Biz was ranting from the rooftops about starting Comrie in game five after the madness of game three and four in St. Louis, but starts him, gets the win, but then goes back, gets pulled again in St. Louis, and you knew he was starting, but I think I was kind of more so keep him in. And then if a third one goes in, obviously he's getting the hook. But Arnil, you know, stuck to his, what will probably be the MVP of the league. I think he might win MVP, forget the Vezna, he's got that locked up. And then what's crazy about that game is he really kind of, he found his game when they got to overtime and they dominated Winnipeg as a team. But there were some pretty big saves by Hella Buck,

and he wasn't even in the net. Yan sent the group text a text like, are they better without him in goal? Because they got the two goals with the net pulled. Maybe this is something that actually gets him over the hump. We won a series where I sucked in three of the games. He actually sucked in game one too, and they won that one. Maybe now it's like Oh my god kind of the demons of the first round are gone and he can go and become the MVP

We know but yeah, I was with you Dan. I thought he might be getting the hook there It was just like holy shit the Jets like they don't look like they know how to play hockey They were horrible horrible Yeah And the confidence has to be terrible when your goalie is not seeing it like Like I'd imagine it just, it goes throughout the entire team where you're like, holy fuck, if he's not seeing it, we're screwed. It seeps into the team no matter what

because we're like, we have to be perfect. And then if you're trying to play perfect, you're never gonna play well. And that's with a goalie who maybe is kind of, not a great goalie in the league usually. This is even different because he's the best goalie. Right. This is like, we, we lived with Connor Hellebuck dominating and winning us games. And now like all of a sudden, you know, his kryptonite has arrived, which is the playoffs and credit to them, man, they got it done. It is. So it isn't just like

this series, he's been like noticeably different as a goalie in every playoff series he's ever played, right? Like I was seeing some stats that show there's a significant downturn once he gets there. No, so I, so lately, yes, last year and this year, last year, Colorado just red light all night and I think it was five games, but I saw a clip or a stat I didn't even, from I think 2018 to 2023. He was great. I think like two, five, two, six goals against nine, 10, nine, 15 save percentage, you know, really good numbers and, and then something happened last year. And then, you know, you figure out,

well, he had a great regular season. He wins the Vezna again. And now it's time to shine. It's not Colorado either. St. Louis offense is not the Avs, but no it's the same thing And so I'm wondering if I'm wondering if against Dallas We see the hellebuck that the last two regular seasons has been has been the guy yeah Yeah, so it gets to overtime it gets to two over times at At what point do you as a player start to feel that same pressure because I feel like in that instance The fans when they're watching overtime hockey game seven, it's painful if you're a fan of those teams. Do you have that same feeling as a player on the ice where like your butthole

super tight, you're sweating, you're nervous. It's like, it's painful to play because one mistake is the end of your season. Are you able, are the players on the ice able to just focus and play like they normally do? I think you're completely able to focus and play. And I got to play, I played in one double overtime game, it was the Cup Finals, we actually won. And it was similar because we tied it up. Max Talbot scored with under a minute left in Detroit.

And then Peter Cicora scored end of double overtime. And maybe on the bench, you're a little bit like, oh my god, oh my god. But on the ice, I remember feeling as calm as ever I I think it was partly due to just like we if we didn't win that the the cup was Detroit's right like the year You're totally it's a no-lose situation in a weird way You have nothing to lose I should say and and I was remember I remembered after being like wow like the fan bases are Just like it's a panic time. But I remember actually thinking after how calm everyone kind of felt and really get on the ice and just do your job and then

get a little breather. And shorter shifts, I would imagine, because you're just dying. And then you got to start kind of rolling. You almost got to get the fourth line in the mix if they haven't been, which St. Louis was really rolling lines. They did a good job of that. But yeah, that's why I like the legendary Peter Klima. Rest in peace. He scored I think triple overtime Edmonton Oilers against the Bruins in the cup finals 1990 or 91.

And he hadn't played like in the second, third or first overtime. And that's the guy who gets the winner. All right. So the other game seven, stars, Avs Saturday night, by the way, thank you so much for giving me the Avs is my future. Oh, well you were motherfucking me all week. Well, I mean, listen, it was, it was, I said it was a fun ride for two games. The first two games were awesome. And then it was just all fell apart, but it was an incredible series.

I watched every second of the series. It was just like, I know I lost, but it was, it was incredible series that Avs that Avs game though, like the, I don't want to call it a choke, but tell us, start with this. Uh, the penalty on jury. I know people were debating it. That felt like just like an idiotic thing to do in the moment with four minutes left. He pulls down. Uh, who do you pull down? Sagan Sagan. Yeah. He pulls them down from behind, like kind of right in front of the ref. I don't know if, you tell me if that was something that usually gets called. I just thought of it more as like, what are you doing dude?

Like why are you doing this in this moment? You can't take a power play in this moment. I think in the neutral zone, no penalty there, but in the defensive zone where Sagan could possibly get that loose puck, right off the hop I was like, oh, I don't know, man, three minutes up, whatever it was, game seven. But looking at it more, that that's kind of a call that that I don't disagree with the more I think about it. It was it was almost like desperation mode.

Like, you know, he doesn't want to have to do that. He just gets on the wrong side of him. And it's panic mode felt bad for him. Like you never want to see the guy like be in the box right for that moment You almost feel bad, but I I in the end kind of was like alright I get it, but if it was in the neutral zone, and they call it I think it's ridiculous, but with a possible scoring chance and a loose puck right there. I understood it Yeah

What do you have to do to get called for a penalty in an overtime, especially like game seven overtime? You would hope it would have to be Just an assault like like a blatant where even even the the fans of that team is like that's a penalty which never happens I mean every fan base there's no penalties against their team They're the right call but for me It's got to be something like like that where it's that where it's really stopping a possible scoring chance, a possible, you know, chance for like a two-on-one in the neutral zone, a blatant trip when the guy has the puck. But if it's at all 50-50, put the whistles away.

And do players adjust their style of play knowing that? Like, this ref is not going to call me for the tiki-tack shit. I think it's a little bit, I would say specifically in front of the net, where you can be maybe a little bit more vicious, right? Your cross checks can get a little bit harder. You can lift up sticks a little bit harder. Things that are total battle plays, 50-50 pucks, you're knowing, all right, I'm not gonna get a call against me here. Yeah, obviously, if it goes haywire or it's like usually ends up kind of being a high stick out of a battle

that's not not on purpose, but it gets the guy up high in the chin and and the ref has to call it whether he's bleeding or not. Yeah, but at that at that moment, it's like you're playing so hard and so desperate. You're not even really worried about a penalty because you're also considering like they're going to let us decide this thing five on five, which is how it should be. Yeah. I agree. Guys should have little like razor blades under their gloves. Like in WWE, like just give yourself a little Nick. It's bleeding. That's four minutes. Yeah. Well, I think people have tried. They get a high stick and then they're just scratching away hoping to see some blood. I respect that. Uh, explain to us how on the scale of revenge games, D'Amico ranted in game four a hat trick in game seven against a team he was on, what, nine months ago?

I mean, he was traded January-ish, February-ish? Oh, so he was less than that. I thought he was trading, wasn't he trading the Hurricanes first? Yes. So they got him out of the Western conference. Right. Right. And, and, and they're like, and, and the story kind of has come out that he really wanted to stay in Colorado. They wouldn't budge on the number. Um, now you're kind of getting different sides, but at the end of the day, all right, we're going to move on. And we think that, that Martin netches can

do what he does because of Nathan McKinnon at two thirds the price or whatever it was. That ended up being a movie. That was a movie script. Not to mention that Carolina sends them back to the same division. They're already pretty much locked in stone to play each other first round. You know, McFarland, the GM of Colorado had to be like, you know, puking when he saw that trade. But he went over there and I want to say 17, 18 points in like 20 games with Dallas regular season, right? Roughly around

a point per game, but not, not the guy that you saw with, with McKinnon. And all of a sudden Twitter's the he's a McKinnon merchant. He's a McKinnon merchant. He can't play without him. And then first four games of the series, I think it was a point, you know, like nothing special. Like, where is this guy? Like, is he a McKinnon merchant?

And oh my God, did this guy come alive. I mean, he had 11 points in game five, six, and seven combined. Crazy. And to end up doing that down two goals, how about this stat? I don't know if you guys heard this on the broadcast. Going into Colorado Dallas game seven, three times a team had been down two goals in the third period in the history of the NHL playoffs in a game seven and tied it up. It was Montreal in 79 against the Bruins. It was the Bruins in 2014 against

the Leafs. And it was 2019 Sharks against the Vegas Golden Knights. It happened back to back nights, boys. That's crazy. Three times in history a league. So I'm looking at that game, McKinnon scores early in the third. I'm like, they got him. This is it. And something happened. Whether Ranton told himself, I'm taking this game over, whether the first goal got him going, which was a snipe bar down. And then, I don't know. It's just one of the coolest storybook endings I've ever seen. And you got to think guys on the Avs on the

plane after are just like, that did not just happen. that guy was in our locker room 35 years ago or whatever. Yeah. He was. So he was an av for 10 years, won a cop, got traded to the Hurricanes for 13 games and then got traded to the stars and then just beat them with a hat trick in game seven. That's insane. And the craziest quote after was McKinnon who it's quite obvious, like probably one of the most competitive guys in the league. Very demanding as a teammate, one of the greatest players I've ever seen. And after he said, yeah, we just lost to them. They didn't have their best defenseman and their best forward.

Like, I don't know what we do now. Like totally just like shell shock, disgusted and to see his running mate, like his line mate and the guy he did it all with when they did get their cup be the hero. It was incredible. And the rontenent, the craziest part was he had like three other like amazing passes. Like he could have had seven points in the game. Like he was just all over the ice and he had to feel good. And I thought the coolest part was his interview after. I don't know if you guys saw on the

bench talking about like, you know, I'm, I love those guys in those room and, and we were enemies for seven games and, but I appreciate them. But just, just to get that wind felt so good. It was, it was a really good interview on the bench after. Yeah. Or the stars getting both those guys back. Um, I don't think it'll be for game one, but it sounds like in the second round we'll see both of them I think Dallas is gonna be very hard to beat now I think and I think either team either team was it was it was like that that was kind of like a Western Conference final in the first round so I so also I heard that the glass bangers gonna be back if they get to the Western Conference finals, which will be huge

Well, they were letting them out of solitary confinement for stars games They're putting the Hannibal Lector mask on them Solitary five stars games he could come out and they gave him a meal and he could watch Are you are you in favor of how they do the NHL playoffs with the new seeding? I know it's not new but it's like, you know, whatever, however many years it's happened. But like you get a situation where it happened last year with the stars and the Knights. It happens this year with the abs and the stars where these, I think this, I think the abs were the second best team on points in the Western conference and the stars were the fourth. And it's like these two teams

could be cup teams and they have to play in the first round. Yeah. I've flip flopped back and forth. I'm kind of back to I don't hate it and it does the one bad thing is what happens and even Florida Tampa was kind of similar. I mean Florida ended up making that that that kind of discussion look foolish winning in five but I I'm back on the side of not hating it because the first round, you get the most eyeballs on the first round. So you're kind of guaranteeing yourself, well, it sucks for the team who loses one incredible series.

I mean, every analyst I saw said that that series is going seven games. And it was like a, it was a lock. So you know, you're getting incredible hockey and it sucks for the losing team, but you're still have, you still have some awesome second round matchups, but it ends up also being pretty close to what it would be if it was one verse eight. The ideal situation, big cat would be one verse 16 and it's no East and West. And it's like, you could get, you could get the Canadians and the Bruins and the cup final type thing. But they'll never do you could get the Canadians and the Bruins and the cup final type thing. I like that. But they'll never do that based on the travel and the cost.

So I'm, I'm, I understand the haters of it, but I also am like first round, the viewership seems to almost die down a little bit. Maybe it's like, you know, warmer weather comes. It's just kind of natural. People aren't watching as much hockey. So the first round, you know, you got some bangers. Yeah. And there were a lot of bangers. So looking ahead to golden Knights and oilers in the second round, this

is a, this is a must win for your boys. You can't take a step back this year, right? No, no, you can't. Um, and some kind of off season moves that, that were really questioned all year, seeing what, what hallway did in, in Broberg and St. Louis. And then seeing how much like Jeff Skinner struggled in Edmonton, it's like, Oh, what the hell is going on? But something happened in Edmonton. Thank God for Jim Hiller, the coach of LA who really, I don't know if I remember a coach kind of costing his team as much as he did. Like that series was done. That was over. I mean, that was four games of LA dominating. And it ends up 2-2. And the Oilers found their game in game five. Same thing with game six.

So now I'm believing again and thinking it could happen. This is a monster though. We're dealing with a Goliath, a team who also didn't play great. Minnesota had them on the ropes a little bit. Yeah shocking in that series But it's almost similar to what I feel about Edmonton getting by LA and finding their game Vegas you always got to win a series you maybe didn't deserve to win to win the cup and Vegas might have just had that happen. So we're we're the underdogs we being the Oilers And and I could say we biz says we for the meat Leafs never played for them. So like, let's get ahead of that one. But the Oilers are in one, but if you could steal one in Vegas and the home ice advantage in Edmonton is bananas. And I know

you saw a game in Montreal, PFD. How cool was that? It was unreal. It was the craziest building I've ever been in my life. Nobody told me about it. No, I was completely unprepared for just how insane Montreal was gonna be. But god damn it, do I respect them. Fuck them, but also, I'll take my hat off because you guys are the loudest crowd I've ever heard in my life. Edmonton, is that the same vibe up there

as it is in Montreal? Yeah, I think that the Montreal fans within the play get a little, they're crazy reacting to Small good. Yeah, like you hockey knowledge. I thought they were I thought they were cheering for penalties I thought that there was a penalty call that I didn't see and that's why the crowd was going nuts But no, it was just like I don't know a 20 foot pass No, you can you can block a shot and chip it off the glass and out and you're getting a cheer. Yeah It's the same way. I think that're getting a cheer. Edmonton's the same way.

I think that the difference is kind of Edmonton has this Rogers place, it's a Rogers arena. I always mess those up, them in Vancouver, but they have this enormous new spaceship arena where Montreal, the Bell Center, I mean, the seats are like this and I'm just showing how vertical they are and it's a smaller, older building. The concourses are brutal. You're back in 1980 but it creates this atmosphere that's unmatched. Yeah. When they're yelling at you in French it sounds like a little bit polite and then you realize what they said and they're like, wow, these guys are fucking mean. But back to Edmonton, quick guys. I said this on the stream the other night.

It's betting Rory to win the Masters. Like I know you guys dog me and you I got to continue to listen to it. But McDavid's winning a cup. He's winning a cup. So this year when I'm taking them every year, same way I was taking Rory every single year. Wait. All right. I actually have a we want to talk about the East but give me this because I took the abs and they lost so I don't have any futures or anything left in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I'm going to start rooting for storylines. I know McDavid is at the top of the list but give me a couple other guys who like if they win it's like damn this was awesome for them. They deserve to win a cup. Number one, Jamie, Ben. Okay. That's kind of my, my, uh, player right now who doesn't

have one that, that I feel like, God, that guy deserves one. He's, I mean, I think, I don't know, 16 years in 17, maybe, uh, maybe a little less, but been a warrior, a beast, a true captain, a leader. And he's done it like teammates love him. He's done it for so long that if Dallas were to get one, that's kind of my guy. I'm like, all right, Jamie, Ben deserves that. Like what a way for him to, to play the end out, right? He's probably, he's probably, you know, maybe three years left, two years left. I don't know exactly. I shouldn't speak for him, but that's one guy. Um, what are some other amazing,

I mean the Leafs, I, I, I, Leaves in general, Leaves in general, 1967. I just don't, I think it'll be the end of chiclets. Um, Biz is completely lost in the sauce right now. Maple Leafs. I don't know if you guys caught our interview with Matthew Kachuk. Did you see how that went down? I saw the start of it when he came on and biz looked like he was going to cry. No, it was, it was crazy. So, so Yanz was disgusted. Like it was, it was a contentious moment after the pod because Yanz surprises us with Matthew, you know, one of the biggest names in the league and he comes on and the minute I saw his face, like I knew I'm like, biz is not chiclets host right now. He's on the Maple Leafs and he's about to play you. And so I knew what was coming, but I could see Keith's face like Biz, Biz

is, he's on the Leafs. And so he's giving it to him and Matthew Kachuck's kind of just like dodging questions a little bit and being professional. But that, that is going to be a war. I cannot wait for that series. I don't I don't think the Leafs can do it I think Florida is just the fact they added Brad Marchand guys Like I don't know if I've ever seen a player fit more perfectly into a team than the way He's kind of come into this team of rats and dirtbags and that's a compliment by the way Yeah, and he's there now and they bully teams and I think if the Leafs beat them they might win the cup Like that's how like scared I am. So we'll see what happens, but it's, it's

a great story. That would be bad for you. That would be bad. Yeah. The, the, the, we were laughing about the lightning, uh, Panthers series where it was just, they were just trading off like guys getting suspended for knocking another guy out. And then the guy, and then Hagel came back from injury and then knocked someone else out or you know, got knocked out. So I think this is a real step but if the Leafs win two more rounds in these playoffs they will then tie the Buffalo Sabres for the amount of playoff series victories since the year 2000.

Isn't that crazy? Oh my god. The Sabres have been bad. And the Sabres have been real bad. The Sabres have made the playoffs for 14 years Yeah, this it's pretty wild stuff So the Panthers think you think they could bully the Leafs because you look at the Leafs as as a self-admitted hockey casual I look at especially their power play and I'm like, how do these guys not score seven goals a game?

Yeah, but are they tough? Can they hold up to the Panthers? Yeah, but are they tough? Can they hold up to the Panthers? Their D can they they made a conscious effort to bring in some big strong tough Defenseman Oliver Ekman Larson was amazing for the Panthers last year. He comes over they trade for Brandon Carlo from the Bruins just to stay at home shut down guy Chris Tanev was the big deal that he ends up signing there Jake McCabe's a beast He's he's he's played for a. Jake McCabe's a beast. He's played for a while. So they're D, a big, strong physical. It's the Matthew Kachuk, Sam Bennett, Brad Marshawn up front where I'm not even bringing up Barkov, even though he's just strong and

can't get him off the puck. But those forwards, when I look at those guys next to Marner, Nylander, Matthew Nyes is a very strong big guy, can skate. And I don't think Matthew shies away from contact at all. But when you look at the forward groups, you look at the big, strong bully, and then you look at some really skilled kind of kids out at the playground, but possibly could be really intimidated when the going gets tough. I could be wrong, and the Leafs have never really shown that in all these years.

We'll see though, if they could do this, it's a possibility that the curse breaks. So I respect you flip-flopping. You said that you are now picking the capitals to beat the Hurricanes in the second round. I know Biz flip flopped too. I wanna say I respect your flip flop, I don't respect Biz's because if he's right

and the Caps win and the Leafs win, then he's gonna flip back to picking against me in the next round. So like look it ahead, I don't want Biz's fake friendship. I'll take your friendship, but I'm excited about this series because I feel like it's gonna be maybe the best series out of all four, how these two teams match up. I think it's going to be great.

It's Carolina's speed versus, and I don't think Washington's a slow team at all, but they're physical. And Tom Wilson is a unicorn. I mean, that guy literally just changed a series in the first round with one of the biggest hits I've ever seen. And then he has an incredible game five he scores a big goal and he's just somebody that like nobody else has a guy like him he's way more skilled than people realize he had over 30 goals this year and he's running around literally trying to kill people and it's

like hats off to you buddy yeah there is no one who can answer him on Carolina. That's not really a chirp at anyone. They're a smaller team. They're fast, they're skilled, but I think Washington can really beat them up. Even Pierre-Luc Dubois is a big center man. He can move, he can play physical. Can Ajo, can Seth Jarvisvis can these guys out skill them? I don't know if it's possible Will wonder to like Anderson's a great goalie, but he always gets injured Logan Thompson has a lot to prove

He lost his starting job and Vegas goes on to win the cup That's why I was very surprised when he got injured in game three and was ready to go game four and Grunelli was the one To say on the show like he doesn't want to have it. Well he doesn't get walled pipped again and I get it and he was great. So I think it's going to be a great series but that's one where I'm like I don't know if physically the canes can play with Washington. Maybe have a special call. I've tried to run it back with Ovi. See the movie that did not go well. Here's here's one bad thing for, if you're doing like Team of Destiny, is one name that we forgot Brent Burns on the Hurricanes. He's a guy who if he lifted the cup, everyone would

be like, he's like 41 years old. Yep. And you'd be like, holy shit. And he has like, I think like 45 pets. He's got snakes, he's got lizards. What? Oh shit. Oh, he's a snake guy? He's crazy. He's an animal. I don't trust a snake guy, oh, he is a snake. It's crazy. He's a snake guy Psycho though. You don't want to fuck with a snake. No snake guys are fucked up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah brent burns is an animal

That's another guy that really deserves a cup I Carolina fans are kind of all always all over biz and I and I gave them a bunch of props I'm like they got ranted and they got a true game breaker and And all those fans tell me, ah-ho, ah-ho. I'm like, I love Ah-ho, but I just, he's like one little notch beneath like the true superstars. And so I don't even think if Carolina gets by Washington, like they can win the cup. And maybe I'm wrong. I mean, they've won around seven years in a row.

That's kind of crazy how hard that is to do, But do they have the team to actually like win it all and and I think they've they've been swept in the past two or three Easter conference finals that they've gotten to Yeah, watch it watch it this caps team play all season long. It's it's made me feel things about the caps I haven't felt since 2018. Yep, the way they played. I think that a lot of it There's like two guys one guy that never gets any shine is Carlson on defense. He's incredible man He's just been rock solid for like 12 years. Yeah, he just he just checks in checks out every day doesn't fuck anything up He's a great player and then strong Dylan Strom has been playing as good as anybody in these playoffs He said I forget how many games in a row he's at a point in but what is it about a guy like that?

That is able the game is like almost slowed down for him and it feels like he's just connecting everybody on offense. He makes that offense go. He does. And he almost slows down the game. Like he's not an afterburner, right? He's just crazy hockey IQ, great passer, and he is able to slow it down, right? Like he's able to open up lanes by holding onto it for that split second longer than most guys would just to have a lane open up. The way Backstrom was with Ovi, it's like, Strom's kind of come in there and made it look very similar, which is wild. I mean, it goes back, I think last time when I was

with you guys, Chicago didn't qualify him. Chicago just had to give him a qualifying offer and he's gone on to do these amazing things in Washington. I think that Manji Apani is another guy. He comes over from Calgary and he's just a solid hockey player. He's on your third line. They have guys that just get the job done. You're talking about Carlson. Carberry knows what he's getting every night from some of these guys.

And they've all bought in. And I know every team that's made it this far, they have a close group and even every team that's in the playoffs, like these locker rooms, they're like brothers. They love each other. But the clips after when Carberry is talking to this team, it's like, that looks like the craziest best atmosphere I've ever seen in a room. I mean, they announced that Nick Dowd signed a contract extension. He chugged a beer and they're all a chanting for it. Yeah, it's juicy. J back there. Juicy J is like introducing your team.

So juicy J, they reached out to Chiclets. They want to come on. They want to come on and talk about like their, their, their hell with Ovi and the capitalists. We're trying to figure that one out. Oh, by the way, shout out, special shout Strowm because he's a big AWL. Yeah, met him in the Bahamas. Great guy. Yeah, great. Great dude.

There's also the rookie that we just called up Ryan Leonard, the guy that basically went from like he was in college class in the morning and then he played a game against the Bruins for the Capitals. And I, I've been watching him play. I don't know how much of him you've seen with, but my theory on him is this kid is really, really close to being great. He's he's all over the place he's like hitting people he's he's on the puck all the time I feel like if he gets put maybe on a different line you might see him explode into like being one of the great talents in the league in the not

so distant future because he's so close to making all these great plays I think he's gonna have a you know 15 to year career, even as that sounds crazy, where he's a legitimate top line player. I've actually seen him play very closely the last two years when he was at Boston College, and he's just dominant. Kind of shocked he didn't win the Hobie Baker this year, but I knew he would hop right in. I was saying last year when they announced he was going back to BC, I said, well, he'll be on the capitals in April. And I didn't expect the Caps to have

this type of team or this type of season. But even with them being a playoff team and top team in the East, I knew he'd step in. And yeah, the goals haven't come, but the way he's playing and to have a guy who's that skilled, even though he's this young on your third line, that shows how deep they are, but he won't be a third liner for long. And who knows? Maybe it does change somewhere in the playoffs, or they move him up, but he's played great, he's played smart, and he's always been tenacious. He's always been somebody that kind of lives and thrives off contact and playing mean.

So I think you got a great player there. It's amazing to see. And you didn't even need Protas in the first round. So now he's back. It's wild. It's crazy to see what the Capitals have done in a year where last year it looked like, how did they even make the playoffs? Oh, they're done. This is the OV Gold Chase and nothing. And boom, they're cup contenders. All right. I want to get some people mad on Twitter So give us there's eight teams left. Yep

Rank them one through eight if you had to put your life on the line chances to win the cup one through eight Oh, man, this is gonna get me in trouble with yeah. No, that's what we're trying to do This isn't with my heart. This is with I have to survive. Yeah. Yeah, this is just yeah have to survive Yeah, any teams any if any teams for five to rate win then you're dead, Florida one, okay Dallas two, okay Vegas three Washington four Edmonton five. Wow, you really don't believe yeah, that's sad damn, we're not hit, Winnipeg six

Carolina seven who am I forgetting? Lee that makes it Guys I can admit Edmonton's an underdog here And yeah, they get through Vegas and and and and I come back on like if they beat Vegas they're number one they are okay they immediately jump from five to one yes yes yes all right so six I'll give you six seven eight if six seven or eight win then you got a then you're dead that sucks but my life insurance my wife will get she she might end up like

not being that sad. Yeah. Deals the deal. How was, uh, how was the birthday party? You had your one year old's birthday party today. Yeah, we did. Just family, just family came over a few. And if you invite, um, non-family to a one year old birthday party, every person you invite, hate your guts. They don't want to go. They don't want to go. And the big, like there's no reason to have a birthday party without outside of family for a kid that's one, two or even three because they don't have friends yet. No, they don't have friends. They just have kids that they if they go to like preschool or something there, they have kids they play next to. Yes. And they fight and they fight when they're together. We got a taco truck

because my wife's family is huge. So that everyone was over a taco truck came and you know I tried the tacos first and then my wife asked me to do something and then I'm She comes back and I'm trying the quesadillas and I just I didn't leave that that taco truck then I love it. Hey, do you have any thoughts about the NBA playoffs? No, I saw that Houston came back. They were down three one. I could give a fuck. I really bad news for you. They're out. I'm so sick of the commercial with the three. Okay. See guys that are in the same goddamn outfit and I'm sick of that thing. And I, I just don't get, and I get the popularity of the NBA, but watching the first round of the cup playoffs and then

clicking over to games, I'm like, how is this more popular? There was more, there were some good, uh, first round series. Yeah. Like the, the nuggets Clippers series was an awesome. So yeah, I was really dialed into that. Yeah. What about LeBron saying that he wasn't, did you, did you like that move where after he got eliminated, he had, uh, his team put out that he wouldn't have played game six. That had gone game six.

I saw the, the, the most, I don't know. What's the word? Like, um, embarrassing clip. That's not what I'm trying to think of. But when he went down on that flop, I mean, there wasn't a teammate. He didn't know. He'd even look at him. No, like they were like, that's a sign of like, Oh, I do not do not want to be on this guy's team anymore. Yeah. So a big cat just had a kidney stone. I had one about a month ago. I saw Jerry O'Connell at like, is this a bit? No, I spent three hours. I was in between T ball and a birthday party yesterday was the emergency room. Yeah. Somebody on part of my take is spitting a kidney stone out of their dick

once a month and that's our pattern that we're on. Is that upper or lower body injury? Also? Yeah. Yeah. Tell us that. Yeah. I'm going lower body boys. When it, when, when you got to pass something through your hog, that's lower body. And wait, you know me well enough. Do you think me? I would want to spend fucking Derby Saturday in an emergency room for a bit. That's not that's not something I would have gone. I would have gone on like, you know, Wednesday and taken a picture or something. I literally you could see I had a picture from my son's tee ball and like two hours later, same shit, just laying on a bed.

I was like, this fucking sucks, but you guys may need to like Somebody check the walls of that office is Bestos in there or something well These don't PFT and I do dock after every single episode before we leave we put our penises together We power up might be part of it. That's definitely what it is guys Penises together we power up might be part of it. Yeah, that's definitely what it is guys So it's a quick. It's a quick sword fight over the toilet And then you just slap hogs and then call it a night another great episode. Oh, yeah, you're charged That's how we generate our energy on this show

Wait, I got it. I got a question for you. I need your advice on how to handle somebody online So back in I think it was December or January, I was tweeting about the caps and somebody replied like capstanked and not going to do anything. I bet you 500 bucks. They don't make it out of the first round this year. I said, okay, handshake emoji. This person replied handshake emoji. To me that constitutes a bet. Right? Yep. I know I'd forgotten about it and I checked the bookmarks and I was like oh shit I forget. I bet this guy 500 bucks this random guy online. He then tries to welch out on the bet and he's like no I'm not going to pay up. And then I say OK tell you what I'll even meet you halfway. Donate the 250 to charity and then I'll match with 250 charity on my own. And then he starts to claim that he's being harassed by people Oh That was very that's where he just really lost I got people that are threatened to dox my family

Nobody's threatened to dox anybody's family. So then I told him tell you what I'll just bet I'll pay the full 500 to charity. You just have to change your bio to say I'm a loser that welches out on bets and nobody should take word I say seriously for a year he's gone radio silence since then I don't know what to do with this guy because if listen if you can't trust the integrity of a random person online with a fake account I don't know what we're doing anymore that was like come on man you're ruining it for everybody else I had a guy reach out to me before the Four Nations and I was talking a lot of Team USA shit and he said, hey, I'll bet you, you get a thousand bucks if USA wins.

I get 500 if Canada wins. And here's my Venmo and it was on a DM. And I said, dude, done deal. And the minute, the minute McDavid scored that goal sitting in my seat at the garden I got on Venmo and I sent that man his $500 yeah man of honor that's the difference between me and the guy that you met online that is now saying he's being harassed by people when he definitely isn't being harassed when I saw that one today when he was like I'm getting Doc's and harassed like

this is he's not a serious person he He said I was about to pay the 250 to charity. But then I had people threaten to dox me so now I'm not going to do it. But I was this close to doing it. Hey that's something if he's your buddy like he's got a buddy listening right now like yeah. How do you be friends with somebody? No no. Got to pay your bet. You have to pay your bet. You call. He called. You call he called you out Yeah, I go me out and then listen I he is a serial caller out of other people I've seen his history. This is what he does and now he can't take it when he's wrong I mean and you responded to with the handshake about that thing is like we all get a bunch of random bets thrown our way Yep, I don't take them. But if I take them, I'll let you know

I don't I did I did handshake, and then he said handshake emoji. To me, in a court of law, that's a bet. That's a bet, and I guarantee you, this is a LeBron James fan. Yeah. Yep, probably. Probably, absolutely. LeBron's sexual.

He's got jerseys. He's been a LeBron guy. All right, Whit, we're going to let you go because Biz is actually about to wrap up. Awesome. I got one last question for you. Rowback question, rhoback.com. Promo code last question for you. Ro back question. R H O B C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, ro

back dot com promo code take. We got to make sure Hank is still here. I think he's still here. He's in, he's in Scottsdale for the back gala. Did you hear with, uh, Hank is such a big hockey fan that when the playoffs started, he said that he found out the Bruins weren't in it because he looked at the schedule and didn't see them. That's when he found out. Hank and I are like exact opposites, like our feelings towards our respective leagues. I guess I can ask you, do you watch like, all right, so say the Bruins are in and you're watching their games. Are you watching NBA games and like, wow, this is so much better than the NHL game I

had on last night? Or do you admit that like, wow, hockey's that much more exciting in the first round at least? Hockey playoffs can't be beat. Hockey playoffs cannot be beat. That's all I needed to hear. Yeah. Yeah, nothing they can't be beat. Hockey playoffs. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My other hockey take away, which I am sure real hockey heads will hate it, but like it doesn't matter about the team or the play styles. I don't like the warm weather teams, the Florida's, the Carolinas. I don't like them advancing. When they advance, I lose interest completely.

So yeah, that's like, you're like 80. Like you're like, he's like an old guy who, during the original six he's like, it's cold weather sport. He's the perfect market research for when it's like, you know, when the Stars and the Panthers play in the finals, everyone's like, well, the ratings are gonna be terrible. I know.

It's cause Hank's turned it off. But I kind of get it. And then I also get that not only when the teams like that are playing in the finals, it's also June 15th and people are like, dude, I'm going to the beach. The hockey season going to when it does really upsets a lot of people, including myself and players. Start earlier and yeah, you're dealing with the NFL. Don't play games Sundays. And I know

I guess Saturday's college football, but I just think hockey should end at the end of May. If hockey was smart and this is something the NBA should do too, is that they should basically take two days in the fall when the NFL is going on, have it be like Tuesday night and Friday night or hockey nights. Which Tuesday night and Thursday night are their nights. So yeah. I know, but the whole league, I'm saying the whole league plays and they don't play on the weekends in football season. So it's like when, when it's too, cause then it would feel

like an event where it's like, we know it's Tuesday, we know it's Friday, the entire league's playing. Yeah. Also guys, um, shout out hockey., I believe, is copying the four nations success. Yep. They are. I saw Adam Silver talk about, I mean, remember I came on and I said they had guys jumping through hula hoops, pulling lighted fire sticks out of their mouth as Matthew Kachuk was fighting off the opening faceoff in Canada. So now I believe the NBA is going to take a page out of the NHL's book and go best on best international. I think it's a great idea. I like it because I mean we better win if we don't win. Oh yeah,

we have to have to. So I kind of like that USA basketball doesn't just kill everyone now. Yeah, no, it's more fun. It's definitely more entertaining. Yeah. Like you can. It's awesome. You can get angrier when they lose. Yeah. It's like we're supposed to be the United States and we can't win this game. Yeah. You can like Welch on a bet on Twitter and just like screw over somebody that bet you that Serbia wouldn't have beat the United States. Real quick. Which of the of the warm weather hockey cities would you consider to be the best hockey town? I think Dallas. Yeah.

Yeah. I think Dallas, they, they, those playoff games, it's crazy. That arena gets loud, sneaky LA Kings are awesome. And they were the best home team in the league. Oilers just, I mean, just dominated game five, but um, LA and Dallas kind of stick out and the, the, the, uh, Panthers fans have come on here. They've, they've made these games a complete party. They have a bar in there, the Panther bar, I believe it's called a Panther club. When the game ends, you don't have to leave. It stays open till like three in the morning in the arena. That's pretty cool. That's very Florida. Yeah. All right, Whit. Thank you. You're the best. And maybe

I'll just, maybe I'll just start rooting for the Oilers again. I would appreciate that. Yeah, I would appreciate that. Their games are just so late, but I'll, I know dude, it's, it's, my wife said the other day, you had to pick them? I'm like, well, it was all... It all started because I played there and really, even though they couldn't stand me, the fan base, I could tell how crazy it was. And then watching McDavid, I'm like, I've made this clear on this podcast. I just love watching the guy play.

So yeah, I'm all in. And some of these games, they're supposed to start at 10, and then ESPN ticker during the first games, like, Pockdrop're like oh my god and then it goes to overtime. Yeah brutal. But that's a commitment. Is Oilers Girl is she still around? We've not addressed this or talked about it considering our fan base almost like left spitting checklists when Oilers Girl was a story last year people were disgusted and appalled so Oilers girl does not get brought up any long. What about the what about the woman I think she might be an Asian

woman who dresses up like the cup she rocks. Oh yeah yeah she rocks but she's not flashing the arena and then having us bring her on the show to talk about her boobs. It looks like the Tin Man. The girl Biz tweeted yesterday who had the craziest Twitter profile I think I've ever seen in my entire life. The stars chick? Yeah. Yeah. And what an amazing, I mean like Biz, like just DM her hi and try to like, you know,

obviously like. Only Biz would have the scouting report of the boobs that were going to be on national television like 24 hours in advance. He's like, hey, heads up guys. This is going to be a story. There are some cannons coming tonight. He's like trying to make her a star and instead of just hitting her up and be like, Hey, what's your number? Hey, what's your number? Come to Atlanta. I'm working TNT for the next four months. All right, wait, we'll talk to you. Everyone tune in to spit chiclets. They're going to get into it with Yans and Biz, Ian Granelli even more. And they do the live stream they did on Thursday, I want to say, where they had Kachak, they had Will Arnett. It was so entertaining.

So they have the best hockey stuff all playoffs long. Also guys, so I know you're you dog my my work ethic. I think I work very hard. Oh, yeah. I think I work very very hard Yeah, thank you. Thank you. And and what I love about the playoffs is like we're gonna start recording right now at midnight That's not a big deal to you guys. But for me and I'm like I am a fucking grinder Yeah, like when people say hey house tickets, I'm like dude. I'm just like really really tired man I'm trying to my dick off staying up watching the oilers then recording talking about hockey. I'm basically I'm basically like drilling for oils in the middle of the Mediterranean That's how it feels

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So how it happened, I had one in November, I want to say, and then you got yours like two weeks ago. Are you nervous that I took it back so quickly, now it's up to you again? I think that our kidneys are just made of gravel at this point, because they said that you had multiple ones, right? Yeah, I've got a couple again.

I've got multiple, so it's going to rear its ugly head somewhere. Yeah. So yeah, listen, life is what happens to me in between pissing rocks out of my urethra. Yeah, I think the worst part of this one, I mean, once you have them, you kind of know the plan. So that's the only nice thing is like, I went to the hospital again because I was like, my stomach feels like it's going to explode, my back feels like it's going gonna explode, I think it's a kidney stone but what if it's not? And then as soon as I got the CT scan and they're like yeah you got kidney stones, I

was like I'll take it from here, thank you. Just hand me the papers, I'm out of here. Well you know what you need by now, it's like you check in and you're like I just need the tortle and I'll be out just real quick. When I went in last time- Give me the Flowmax, I'll piss my pants. Like, let's just do it. They didn't give you the ultrasound, did they? No, it was a CT scan or a CAT scan. Yeah.

Yeah. So I got the ultrasound on my scrotum when I went in there last time. That was very awkward to do. And they're like, yeah, congrats. It's a boy. This one, yeah, that is very awkward. This one was a little interesting too, because I was just sitting there losing all my horse races all Kentucky Derby Saturday And then also I had the extra added part of like I took I'm not I'm not trying to say I'm a hero but I went from my son's t-ball game to the ER to then taking my son to a birthday party and In between he was just like where'd you go? And I was like I got rocks in my belly again, and he, deadpan, was just like, are you eating rocks?

He asked me that. He's like, how are you getting them? Are you eating them? Kind of. Yeah, I don't know. Sodium is kind of a rock, I guess. Yeah, I think this one, I'll say this. I think I'm gonna start making some lifestyle changes.

Like what? I'm thinking I might, I don't know. Do I, I think I'm gonna get a dietitian I'm gonna eat salad I've committed to eating salad every day ignore them no I can't that was really disrespectful I'm trying to have a moment I would just say I'm gonna start eating healthier like your your your answer a solution was like get a dietitian but you still need to eat. I understand but I need someone to tell me what to do eat Healthy, okay. I am NOT going to do that on my own volition. I need someone to basically be like here's what you can and

Can I eat? Don't be a shithead like maybe maybe like you know what I need to do is I need to do remember when When people figured out that cigarettes were bad. I still don't believe that. Yeah. I need to just put like a picture of my kids next to like every pine of ice cream I eat at night.

So you have to look at them. Yeah. I still will eat the ice cream. I'll probably feel sad. You'll feel sad when you do it. I'll probably just, what will end up happening is I'll probably just save a little for them. Be like, Oh yeah, my kids want some ice cream too. Yeah. It's a, you're not going to make any changes really.

What I've determined to do is at least think about ordering a salad every day. Having one salad a day is a pretty good compromise that you can make with yourself. But I tried doing that last week. And last week they dropped it off at the wrong door here at the office. So I thought that they just didn't drop it off. And so then I just had three uncrustables for lunch. So at the very, very smallest point of inconvenience, I will completely throw my diet out the window.

Yeah. Yeah, I have no resolve when it comes to that. But listen, man, they probably told you the same thing, which is, and if you're a female listener, especially a listener who maybe has given birth before, please don't listen to this. But the doctors have told us that yeah more painful than giving birth Which will never say I will never say that publicly

Just because I know that that will make some people very upset But they didn't tell me that it's more painful than giving birth listen this time is a little different than my last time this time I have I've had random bouts of nausea and just puked twice the last two days where it's like I was just sitting minding my own business my house And just all of a sudden felt like I had taken a shot tequila like the the 14th drink of the night and just So I have morning sickness, too Yeah, so I it is hard to the very long. Yeah, it's harder than pregnancy. Yeah, either way this podcast Yeah, we do we do podcasts and we do we do kidney stones and I think we are I

Captioned it were were built differently. Mm-hmm, and then parentheses poorly poorly. We're just built poorly But also our our urethras are strong Iron, they're tightens like probably the strongest dick holes of any podcast. Yeah, the end Adam 21 is he still 20? 22? 22? Adam 22? I was gonna say maybe out and about. Out and about, yeah. Or at least the Mount Rushmore of dickholes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Also shout out to all of our listeners who've had this

because we have a lot of listeners who hit us up every time this happens. We did discuss getting all of our kidney stones together, putting them in a little ball, and then engraving them, and then in a, in a little ball and then engraving them and then doing a little miniature lotto ball machine. All the stones or either that or getting them PSA graded and knowing that Darren Reveille will probably purchase them. How much do you think a kidney stone, if we had like three of yours, two of mine and we got them graded and they were like condition eight out of 10, how much do you think five of those bad boys would run for a good amount auction for good amount. Yeah

20k 20k. Mm-hmm. I like that. I could pay for my nutritionist. I'm gonna get a nutritionist right in your face Hank Watch out watch out. It's gonna happen. I don't doubt that you're gonna get a nutritionist. I believe you there. Okay We actually we actually agree in everything so yeah We're in a hundred percent agreement the bottom line is there's something that both me and big cat do that is absolutely Destroying our inside. It's podcasting. We're getting we're getting our guts rearranged by something listen I've had the theory floated the theory before that there could be a chance, like in 10 years, we get a, like, hey, do you know how bad podcasting was for these guys?

Like the CTE crisis for the NFL, where they're gonna, Bob Lay's gonna come out of retirement and have to do an E60, and be like, these guys put their lives on the line every single day Mm-hmm and podcasting has them both dead at 50 So there's one person that big cat and I spend more time with than anybody else on earth Yeah, who is that Hank and held a truth and Hank mysteriously has not received a single kidney stone

Tell the truth. Are you putting rocks in our in our in our food? No, I'm just, you know, mixing in some vegetables every now and then. OK, because it would actually be hilarious if Hank was like long con guys. I've been putting little pebbles in all of your food every day. I would I would respect the fuck out of that. See, if you go back in time, like when cavemen got kidney stones, they probably thought that they were dying. Oh, absolutely. You do.

You do. That thought crosses your brain like they might have just died. Is this the big one? Yeah, fortunately, I think big cat your stones are small enough where they don't have to shoot the laser beam up there Yeah, I've somehow kept right underneath the threshold It's five millimeters and I've got right now in my in my stomach a four and a three cooking around Mm-hmm. So you don't want to get up to the five. No, I do not. All right, that's enough stone talk until next time, whenever PFT gets his next. It literally could be any second. Yeah, we need the draft music.

PFT, Adam Shepard needs to report that I had a kidney stone and PFT, you're officially back on the clock. Or a sign in the studio. It has been X amount of days since we've had a kidney stone on this podcast. You think me or Max will get one first? Max. Max for sure. For sure. Yeah it's not even really a question. You're active enough. You visit your 18 children. Some guy had a some guy had a very mean tweet that

made me laugh that got like it would I don't even follow this person but it was it got so much traction it ended up on my timeline. Hold on, I gotta find it. I saw that one, accuse you of, it said like, Barstool Sports is, I respect them because they just hire a bunch of guys with gout. Yeah, hold on, I'm kidding. I was like, dude, it's a kidney stone, not gout. I will get gout, eventually.

It is from 7-Eleven Truth or he said, Barstool Sports is cool. It's like Buzzfeed only employed, it's like sports is cool it's like BuzzFeed only employed it's like Buzz it's like if BuzzFeed only employed men with gout now that is true to a certain extent shout out that guy good burn we probably have a higher percentage of gout than BuzzFeed oh well large has more gout than anyone in the world and kidney stones yeah yeah so that you got us there but that's it's something interesting I noticed too when I had Mystone is that kidney stone quote tweets go viral. Oh yeah.

Like five different guys went viral hating on me for making fun of Joel Embiid. And listen, if you're looking for a cloud, if you're looking to put some numbers up, go searching for dudes with kidney stones because it'll certainly get you some engagement. Oh, anytime I step to the plate and being like, I'm having this health issue, there is obviously a lot of AWLs and fans who are very nice and reach out. And they're like, but I would say 50% of the responses are, I'm just a pinata. And they step right up.

And they're like, you posted donuts four hours ago, dude. Yeah, that's true. And they just tee off on me. Donuts have nothing to do with kiddie stones. Yeah, all right, the big story though. Jordan, Hank, PFT why don't you explain the new story? Okay, so the new story regarding Jordan, who we support. We love, she's a bad bitch, she's a boss lady.

We stan. And yeah, people gotta back off. So apparently the latest thing is is that not only did she get hard knocks allegedly taken away from UNC because she demanded to be listed as an executive producer, but apparently, she also forced her way into the Dunkin' commercial with Ben Affleck. Wait, just like a regular Dunkin' commercial

in the middle of the week that you're watching? It was a Super Bowl commercial. Oh! Dunkin' Super Bowl commercial. Those are expensive. They're very expensive so she she decided she was gonna be in it and she was in it she was fist-pumping in the background next to Ben Affleck next to next to Bill Belichick. She get paid? She did get paid. Oh yeah she got paid to be in the commercial for sure but they said that they forced she forced her way in

and that they've never seen anything like it. I think that this is just mean, because if you work- Yeah, and who's day two? This seems alleged to me. This seems like piling on. It does, it does seem like piling on because if you work in Hollywood

and you work in big budget commercials, I'm sure that people force their way into commercials all the time. Yeah, I feel like this is the third they've never seen anything like it of the week for Jordon. Yeah. So actually she is someone that we've never seen before.

She's so exceptional. Like when when when bronze sexuals say witness, we're witnessing greatness right now. She's putting up numbers like nobody else before. She's doing things that no one's ever seen. Here's the quote. She forced her way in, but Bill saw it as a way for her to get paid. Good boyfriend move by Bill. Good boyfriend move. People said they've never seen anything like it, the source said. So this is the source saying that people said they've never seen anything like it. So now we're dealing with two anonymous sources.

Right. The anonymous source is quoting vague andous sources. Yeah. And also if you're wondering, Hank, will anyone speak up for Jordan outside of us? Because we do. Her ex boyfriend actually did. And he happens to be 64 years old. That's irrelevant to the story, I think. Everyone's got a type. I spit up when I saw his picture. It was funny. He looks like, what's the guy from bloodline and from Friday Night Lights the coach? Taylor

Taylor Rooks. Yeah, thank you, madam Little behind the scenes part of my take story. This is like maybe week two of doing part of my take and we're No, this is summer 2016. This is the first summer Okay, so like like month two of part of my take and we were, we were, we were scraping the bottom of the barrel for, for guests because it was like every day, that's me and big cat would have to DM somebody that followed us on Twitter to ask if they could be a guest on a new podcast.

And so we're asking anybody that we remotely knew, do you want to come on this stupid show? And then Hank being a great producer, you ran to coach Taylor. Uh, it was all coach Taylor. Yeah, you saw him. He was he he spent he spent summers in situ in the past. He was summering in situ with that summer. And I had a source at a restaurant that he was like, she was like, he's eating at this restaurant right now.

And I asked you guys, I was like, should I go park my car and wait for him to walk out? So I did that waited in my car for like 30 minutes He walked out and I then I got on my car walked in and acted like it was a natural like I happen to be You know passing him. Mm-hmm. I was like, oh hey coach like might have we take a picture and then I was like, hey You know, I produced this a football podcast part of my take like we'd love to have you just like just take the damn picture Brutal it. I mean, it was it was I was forcing it for sure. He wasn't it wasn't really rude by him at all. I think he's son to you too, didn't he? Didn't he say take the damn picture, son?

Take the picture, son. Yeah. Yeah, I do have the picture. But yeah, it was it was a big swing and a miss on my part. Remember the one that I had, Hank, similar the Arnold Schwarzenegger? Yeah, I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger outside of a hotel in LA and I was just like hey, hey Arnold's huge fan Can I get a picture? He goes? Yeah, and he just never stopped walking and by the time I got my phone out He was gone. Yeah, we had him on TMT. He was a guy. That's right. I told them that's my move Yeah. All right. So Jordan, what do we think Hank? Just good watching the commercial after hearing this alleged report is makes the commercial funnier. It makes it a cult classic. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like watching it with that context

in mind. Like I got a smile out of it. And what do you think about her ex boyfriend? I mean it's good that that's actually a good sign that her ex boyfriend is defending her. Right. Not a lot of ex boyfriends are going gonna come out of the woodwork to defend an ex-girlfriend. So that's a great sign. Where did they meet? I don't think, I think the age thing is irrelevant. Like I don't, I don't, I don't know why that, you know, you had to throw that number in there.

Well, I mean, I was just saying his stats. Calm down R. Kelly. Yeah. Like I think age does matter too. Age does matter sometimes. For sure. For sure. But not once you're, you know, over age.

Yeah, over age. So. She's dating well overage guys. She is an adult and she was legally an adult when they met. She's just, she is just dating adult pluses. Everyone's got a type extra adult. Thank you. Older women report that he hired a new PR team to help promote his book. So at least, you know, He's he's not just using strictly Jordan. Okay. Yeah, Jordan's gotta worry about football Football season's coming up. She's gotta worry about football And we're good. I love this story. It's never end. I also Now i'm wondering like every single time you and see football put something out online on any social media

Is she doing that is that is she running? Probably she admin? Probably. So like when you reply to UNC football on Instagram, or on on X, the everything app, is she reading those replies? If so, make sure like tell Jordan like great job. Yeah, because she is doing a great job in terms of PR. Yeah, great job. Great. Everyone respond. Great job. Jordan. Great. Great tweet. Jordan. Great. Everyone respond great job Jordan great great tweet Jordan Jordan Jordan me put the accurate on. Yeah, it's Jordan Okay, let's finish up good show boys Hank you're ahead of us. Sorry

So this seems over. I'll talk is no no. Okay. All right numbers three I Was fixing the camera I will go 44 oh memes I'm sorry it's okay I'm sorry it's not gonna be three it's never gonna be three I will go 45 feel like 45 hits 34 34 was Jack and I'm put 99 was pug 21 21 was Shane. 99 was Pug. 21 was Shane. Hank, what was your guess? Orby, I think. Do you know it? What was your guess? Yeah.

97! I feel like that hits a lot. All the 90s do, thanks to Pug. By the way, Pug, great job with PMTV last week with Oldie's trip up. It was such a good video. You did a really good job. You did a great job. Great job, Pug. Thanks so much, guys. Pug got like three hours of sleep the night before, got on a plane to Montreal in the morning. We're going to get Oldie here for a stream. Yep. Yeah. Montreal rocks. Love you guys. So So So so So So I'm out. Thanks for watching!