Pardon My Take - SB Champ Andrew Whitworth, 1 Question With Chad Henne, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: December 21, 2022

We start with some MNF recap and clean up from Sunday (00:02:10-00:20:01). Jalen Hurts may be injured but Max is now a shoulder doctor. (00:20:01-00:27:19) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the sordid tale of Chiefaholic (00:27:19-00:51:37) . SB Champ Andrew Whitworth joins the show to talk about his first year in retirement, winning the Super Bowl, TNF and tons more (00:51:37-01:28:39). 1 question with a Quarterback with Chad Henne (01:28:39-01:36:22). We finish the show with Guys on Chicks (01:36:22-01:51:47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Superbowl Champ, recurring guest, Andrew Whitworth in studio. Walter Payton, man of the year. Walter Payton, man of the year, Andrew Whitworth in studio. Great chat with him Thursday night, football coming up. He's on Amazon Prime. We have one question with a quarterback with Chad Hennie, some Monday night football, recap, some Sunday cleanup, hot seat, cool throne, guys on chicks. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. Game Time is the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. Give the gift of an awesome experience this holiday season with Game

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might run the table. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. They're a very flawed football team. We saw some of their flaws last night. They just happened to be better than the Los Angeles Rams who stink in the cold weather anyways, and then found themselves in a tough situation. When you have Baker with like two days to study the playbook, there's not enough tape on him and Sean Mcface system. Now, now LaFleur was able to look at a few things. But my big takeaway from this game, Big Cat is fuck you to Matt LaFleur. Now you go for it on fourth down. Yeah, inside the tent. Now is when you do it. Yeah. And now is when you don't score. Well, we did, we could have scored a touchdown or William. Yeah, but

he still sounded firm last time we talked to him. Yeah. And he said, no, I remain resolute now more than ever. It was the right decision. You score a touchdown, you get the over for the people, you get the field goal, you get the over three and a half field goals for the people. Instead, he goes for it on fourth down, and he just gets a first down. And then he goes out for the rest of the game. The one inch. Yeah, there's basically, yeah, one yard there that he could get the first down, not the touchdown. Not fun way to end Monday night football for the people. Do you promise me that the Packers aren't going to run the table? I promise you, I probably, they've got a really tough schedule. Yeah, they've got the Dolphins,

they've got the Lions and Aaron Rogers knew after the game when they were interviewing them. They're like, yeah, well, you're playing a bunch of above 500 teams. He goes, well, one of them's, I'm going to do my stupid Southern accent. And one of them was exactly 500. Yep, the Lions being that. Yeah, they play the, the, the Dolphins, the Vikings, then the Lions. I'm just this guy's never, yeah, Hank just, Hank just looked up. He's like, oh, they could win all those. No, Hank's going to put him in a hungry. Actually, could you put him in a hungry dog please for me? Because then there's no chance. Sure. Yeah. What Hank's doing right now is just trying to get the heat off himself. He's still feeling it from, from Sunday night. Are you still feeling a Hank? Yeah, I mean, as well,

you should. That's, that's something that you're going to have a Sean McVay like memory of that play for the rest of your life. And I'm good. I feel lucky because I get to have the Sean McVay like photographic memory of Hank having to watch that rest of my life. Yeah, people really did enjoy watching your misery. That is what we do best. We do misery best. That's a fact. The uh, was it the, the Packers tried to run a lateral play last night too? Oh no, the Rams, the Rams, the Rams tried to run on an interception. Yeah, they tried to do the lateral play. And then everyone's being like, Hey, laterals aren't going to work. Rugby is not going to work. I think what we're seeing is that teams are going to do it no matter what. So we should educate them as to how to

lateral safely so that way they can have fun and practice safe laterals because abstinence is clearly not going to be a viable option here. It's hard not to throw the, like when you're about to get tackled in, there's a bunch of your teammates right behind you. It's hard not to be like, Hey, here, take it. It's just nature. It's human, the human body wants to ladder. You can't tell it not to. And when it works, it's the coolest thing ever. Yes. It truly is. I mean, Boise State. I'm trying to think, didn't, did Randy Moss do it once? Yeah, let Randy Moss did. The Chiefs have done it a few times. Travis Kelsey still looks to do it two, three times a season. Yep. When he catches a ball, like 30 yards downfield. Yep. The Chiefs would be the first team that

would be able to like incorporate and do it really, really well. And actually pull it off. Yeah. Yeah. As a scripted play. But uh, yeah, that Monday night football game, I, I don't know, like, I feel like this season, the prime time games, I think it's just because we, they were just wrong about a lot of teams. But uh, yeah, like watching that Packers Rams game is like, there's, feels like there's nothing at stake. This game was supposed to be incredible. Yeah. And it's not. And that, but then on the flip side, and we'll talk about it with Andrew Whitworth, Jets, Jags Thursday night will be incredible because that is actually a playoff implications game. That'll be, yeah, that'll be actually a, a strangely fun game. It might not be a great game

to watch, but it's going to have at least the implication of playoff seating behind it. So speaking of that, I wanted to throw out a hypothetical for you guys, just a fun little hypothetical. Uh, if you were starting a franchise today and salary matters and age matters, what would you, what, what, what order would you draft the quarterbacks? Salary matters, age matters. Like every quarterback in the NFL, every quarterback in the NFL. All right. So, uh, Mahomes and Allen. I think that's interesting that you're asking me that question right now because I've, I've been on records saying I would take Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence. No, no, no. But I actually, the fact that they're so young, I think Trevor Lawrence

right now, I'm being honest, would be ahead of him. I'm just wondering how high up Trevor Lawrence would be. I would, that's the question. Cause I, I'm not, this isn't a Justin Fields question. I, I do think that the Trevor Lawrence is a, has shown more this year in terms of passing and like how much better he's gotten versus Justin Fields, who I still am very high on. He is the guy, but Trevor Lawrence, I think goes ahead of Justin Fields right now, but it's more where, how high does Trevor Lawrence actually go? I actually do disagree with you though. I would take Justin Fields over, over Trevor Lawrence because I think that you can get better as a passer in the NFL. We've seen a couple guys do it. It's possible. If you have good coaching

around you, you've got good weapons. You can improve. We can design an offense that works with your skill set. I would rather have Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. But where would, where would you, I would, it's, it's a, it's a Mahomes Allen. I would still go Mahomes Allen burl. Yep. Burl. We're on the same agreement. Probably burl number one overall, right? Contract. Giving contract. Maybe. Yep. You're going to have to pay him, but you're not paying him now. Yep. Herbert. Herbert. He's up there. Lamar is up there. But that's a big contract. Heinecky. He's cheap. Like is Trevor Lawrence? Jalen Hertz is up there too. Yeah. Is, is Trevor Lawrence top seven? No, I'd say he's top 10. He might be top seven. I think he's top

10. It's just something that popped my head like, because we're gearing up for this Thursday night game. I saw, I'm just thinking like, like just contracts matter a lot. I think he might be top seven. Mike White. What are you going to say? We are factoring in durability. Yeah. Yeah. We are. Go ahead. Who's Trevor Lawrence? I don't know. Justin Fields isn't terrible. Just, you know, a lot of workload. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Okay. I just, you know, I would, I'd be curious what people would think. Tua. This is a tough spot for me. A big cat. Pop quiz. Pop quiz. Yeah. Tua. Tua one. Tua one. Pop quiz because we have to be fair. Head of Trevor. We're, we're, we're nothing if not fair

and completely unbiased on this show. Do you know what the Miami Dolphins point differential is this year? Oh, it's not good. Is it? Cause they've been blown out recently. It's one. Oh, it's one. That's crazy. Cause I feel like they did blow out a few teams earlier. Yeah. But the Vikings, I think they, what are they back to like two now? Yeah. I think the Vikings climbed. The Vikings have twice as good a point differential as the dolphins do. Damn. Yeah. It does. It will be very interesting to see what happens on Sunday with the dolphins and the Packers because as a Packers somehow win that game, I do think they're going to run the table and then the dolphins are like in full on panic mode. Mike McDaniel, it's fun when it's going fun and

four game losing streak is a little different. Yeah. The Packers are clearly in the new call me maybe division that they debuted last night on ESPN, which I think is the worst. Oh, so bad. It goes, now it's now it's sniffing around. Number one, number two is still in the hunt. I like in the hunt. In the hunt is classic. Some people got sick of it. Like it was a miracle that they pulled sniffing around out of their back pocket. You had that laying around this whole time and you weren't using it. Yep. And then there's a loitering, which I think is behind in the hunt and then call me maybe, which is a distant, distant fourth. Yes. The Packers are, I'd say this, the Packers are in the primed to make a run position. Yeah. So like if they, if they go down

to Miami, they win this game, then yeah, watch out the Packers. They might run the table. I don't think they're going to win this. I hope, I hope you're right. It's the, it's my brain is riddled with just Aaron Rodgers somehow coming back from the dead. He owns you. And last night was one of those nights where I was like, I don't think the Rams are good. I very much acknowledged that, but it still looked like they were kind of clicking a little bit. Yeah. And Christian Watson is all of a sudden very, very good and everything makes me nervous. What are you going to say, Billy? This was going to be for my hot seat, but Stafford said that he's never retiring. He's not retiring on his wife's podcast. So that just shakes up the whole

sort of Rams stuff. Would you be able to like turn down an invitation to go in your wife's podcast? I don't think so. Probably not, right? You have to go. You're just a recurring guest anytime. Do you think that she writes notes down before? Is she like writing notes, like like interview questions? Like during dinner, he like, he like fucks up with his table manners. And he, he, he's setting the table and he puts the fork on the wrong side. She like makes a quick note of that. Okay, we're going to talk. Or just be like, yeah, when, when you said, when you said last week that you were going to take the kids to the park and you didn't, what happened there? Yeah. Hey, Matt, real quick, we're going to take a quick pause from our sponsor.

They want to sponsor this segment. This is brought to you by Roman Swipes, Matt. Yeah. And do you want to last longer, Matt? That's, I mean, I'm happy that he's not retiring because he's fun quarterback to play, to watch. It is interesting what's going to happen with the Rams, but then again, you think about it and it's like, well, Matt Stafford's used to being on a bad team. So he'll be fine. Yeah. Like he'll be able to put up numbers. He'll be good and they might not be good, but he'll be good. He's been there before. Yeah. Like it's, it's actually probably refreshing where he's like no expectations. He's probably just waiting for Cooper cup to get back. Yeah. And he's like, okay, I'll play with Cooper. I can make things happen with Cooper.

Yeah. His, his spinal contusion was actually just a spidey sense that Cooper cups not out on the field. He just missed. I can't play like this. He just misses his friend. He's just lonely and Ben Scoronic, I guess if you like squint your eyes and have a couple of shots of Jack Daniels, he kind of looks like Cooper cup a little bit. Ben Scoronic from not scoring touchdowns, because I keep Ben Scoronic is going to be my guy that I have to continue to bed on to score a touchdown because Baker loved him so much. Yeah. That first time that they played together, I just have to keep betting on the guy. It's never going to happen. The answer is Notre Dame, but I say that because I don't know if you saw Ravel tweeted and like complained. He's like,

this is the problem with the transfer portal. Ben Scoronic played three years at Northwestern and everyone calls him a Notre Dame wide receiver. No, we don't get the credit for him. Okay, dude. I don't follow Dan Ravel. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was quite the complaint. I have somebody so unfair that they don't say Northwestern. I have. I don't need to follow him. I've got somebody that takes Dan Ravel's best stuff that he puts out. Yeah. Clips it up for you. Yeah. Big Cat's actually my guy that does that. He just tells me. Yeah, you just did it right now. That's a pretty good. That's a pretty fucking hilarious on brand Ravel tweet to be like Northwestern is not getting the publicity they deserve. It is. Yeah. Should have been. Yeah. This guy that

still has yet to score a touchdown should get credit for going to Northwestern. Because usually whenever like a guy scores and they're like from Notre Dame, I'm like, Oh my God, Notre Dame's back. Yeah. They just a guy on that team from a few years ago scored a touchdown the NFL this Sunday. Oh, speaking to guys from from the Big Ten that are in media, Adam Schefter, credit to Adam Schefter. Yes. Friendship is back. Yes. Adam Schefter sent us a very lovely assortment of cookies. Did you get yours, Hank? I gave me your address. Damn. You did move. But yeah, he and I got them. It's beautiful. I had a dark chocolate and peanut butter cookie last night. Do you know what they tasted like? They tasted like I want to defend Schefter when he tweets something stupid. That's

what they taste 100% like we are. We are now firmly in his pocket. Yeah, like he got me cookies. I love cookies. Next time he does something dumb, I'm going to be thinking of cookies. Schefter not dumb. Yeah. Great guy cookies. Yeah, Florio. Florio is so mad right now. Florio, dude, send us something. Come on, Mike. You just send us your fucking book. Yeah. You try to make us read. That actually makes us like you less. Yeah, way less. Yes, send us a gift. I want bribed me. We are open for bribes. I'm basically FIFA. Yeah, we are officially open for bribes at all times. Jake has just entered. He was doing the coaches meetings for the Barstool Arizona Bowl, which give us a recap. How'd it go? Who'd you talk to? Oh, no. Are you nervous? He's having a

problem. He's having a problem. He's having a problem. We also just talked about the Dolphins having a point differential of one. Yeah. Yeah, not great. Not great. You give them the same treatment as the Vikings? Well, no, that's how I brought it up. I was like, we do talk about the Vikings like that. What should we say about these Miami Dolphins? Because those Miami Dolphins would stop the shit out of the Vikings. These Miami Dolphins might lose to the Packers. Vikings will get very upset at you because the Vikings beat the Dolphins, even though it was Schuyler Thompson. Yeah, I'm just saying. That's because we beat the Dolphins. That's because, yeah, it's no two of them. No, they're Thompson. The meetings were great. Both teams were very excited

for the Arizona Bowl happening next Friday, December 30th, 430 Eastern time. Let's go. Yeah. I've seen Jake. He has prepped. He's prepping so hard. He just has the roster sheets in front of him at all times. Yep. So you feel confident. Who sounded more confident? Both. I mean, I don't know. I really didn't get a vibe there. I think it's awkward because it's not a normal game week, right? They usually have their five day warm ups. And here it's like, there's 15 days to kill. Yeah. So it's a little bit different. Isn't the Blizzard fucking up Wyoming? Yeah. I think Brandon said he was stuck out there. Yeah. Yeah. Also shout out to Wyoming social team. They did fastest two minutes. They've been doing spin offs of like tons of bar stills.

So there's a lot of excitement. They're fully embracing it. So it's gonna be hard. I mean, I love action, but I know anyone. We were just talking about bribes. If you just start basically sucking our dick publicly on Twitter, it's going to be hard for me not to root for Wyoming. Yeah, we're very, very easy to get to. Yeah. We'll prep. I'm sure we'll talk about the game next week when we're out there, but there's tons of great storylines. You know, like schools should just give us honorary degrees. And then we would say nothing but good things about your football Purdue basketball program. Purdue, give me a fucking science degree. I tweeted out that Wyoming's without their top four running backs. So people were like, does Billy still have eligibility?

Oh, Billy. Oh man. Could you imagine it for the bar stool? If we bought a bowl game and one of the stipulations was you have to roster at least five content employees. Dude, Frank, the tank at fullback. How incredible. Dude, fullback nose guard. If he just fucking leans on. Yeah. He'd take up space. Billy, what do you think your stat line would be? At running back? Yeah. I think if you threw me in on some short yard stuff, I might be able to figure something out. You'll get it. God damn it. I would love to see that. Now, Billy's training for the mascot game in a couple years. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's true. Bloopy, you're getting fucked up. Do you see Blooper? Come at Billy? Yeah. He comes at everyone. The guy's addicted to violence on Twitter.

It's disgusting. His bad Elon should take care of that. He just came at me because I did shave for advisors and I took one picture that made my mustache look good and then I took a picture with Andrew Whitworth and they posted it and I have four chins. Four chins. You want to look at the picture and give me, yep, Hank's looking at it right now. Hank, you can't talk. You're too much of a coward to shave your beard. No, I won't say that. I won't say that you look really fat then. Okay. Hank's getting slim. Hank, I could give you one of my chins. You need one. Yeah, you got six to seven. Oh my God. There it is. Give it to me. It's like when people give their family members a kidney transplant because they match up to make you feel better. Yeah, this would be

like the first cross podcast. Yeah. Chin transplant. I have more than enough to spare. Everyone can get a chin. I'm like Oprah, you get a chin, you get a chin, you get a chin because that was a bad picture of me and it's not. I was worried about that. I had like a moment where I said to myself, ooh, I don't look so bad with my face shaved and then that happened and I was like, yep, I look just as bad as I thought I did because I am fat. But you know what? It's bulking season right now. Get big. I've just been eating candy bars every night for the last like three weeks and it's a problem. It's big. It's mass. You got it. It's hibernation season. Yeah. Chumpsuit January. I'm going to I'm going to. Are you actually going to do jumpsuit January? I'm very

excited about jumpsuit January. I was thinking about that last week because I bought myself a new jumpsuit and I get very excited. I'm going to do I'm going to be consistent with what I've been saying. I'm going to wear jumpsuits when I want to wear jumpsuits because jumpsuit January is about being comfortable. Yeah, it's so if I don't wear one one day, it's just because I needed to wear something else and I'm not comfortable. I'm always comfortable wearing jumpsuits. If it were if it were up to me, I would never wear anything but jumpsuits on the outside. If it's below a certain degree. It's like I've got two seasons. There's sweatpants season, then there's short season. Yeah. And that's it. So January. I'm pumped, man. I'm very excited. I'll buy some new

jumpsuits. Yeah. I just always have the problem with I lose everything in my pockets all January long. Yeah. That's why you got to get the one with zippers on it. Yeah. I know. Get zippers. You can also put a fanny pack in there or I've noticed a lot of people wearing like the over the shoulder chest strap. That's like a new thing. The Louis bag. Yeah. I might get a Louis bag. Send us some jumpsuits people. Yeah. That's open for business. So we were saying like if you want to bribe us to root for your school, give us an honorary degree. That's a good way to do it. But maybe a cheaper, more financially sound way to do it would just be to like send us a bunch of your jumpsuits that you have laying around. Yes. Yes. I'm in for it. What else we got? Any other cleanup

for Sunday? Yeah. There's Max Jalen Hurch. Oh yeah. There was a moment on Tuesday, Monday afternoon where the line swung drastically towards the Dallas Cowboys. That was and I checked Twitter and the first thing I saw on Twitter was some guy saying that Jalen Hurch had a broken collarbone and would be out for the season. That guy I think just bought a blue check mark. Oh my God. That guy was legit. It was scary. And there were a lot of people talking about what's going to happen. Then Shefty reported that he's got a sprained shoulder. We don't know which shoulder is it? Is it the throwing or the non throwing? I saw both. It's the non throwing. Are we sure? Because I saw both. He also played the whole fourth quarter and was throwing. He had better numbers

with the sprained shoulder than he did before it. Fine. It's fine. I do kind of think that it was it's the Eagles being like, well, the Cowboys just lost. We have to win one game for the rest. Like I think that if this game, if the Cowboys hadn't lost the Jaguars, I think Jalen Hurch would be playing in this game. That's what I feel like. It's one of those situations. Why potentially having to maybe play them a third time in the playoffs? Why give them anything? Take care of business against the Saints the week after. Let Jalen Hurch get healthy if he's just a little dinged up. And also Gardner Minshew is going to win this game. This is the perfect Gardner Minshew game for Christmas Eve. Mike Leach passing. Mike Leach just passed away. Gardner Minshew is the

perfect backup quarterback to come in winning one game. He's going to be so fired up. Like Gardner Minshew gets me fired up. I feel like I'm more excited. I feel like, you know, when they show the dad in the stands when Brock Purdy was watching, like his dad was watching him play last weekend, when Gardner does something good in an NFL game, I feel like I'm the father on the sideline, just like crying out of just pure testosterone. Max, I did task you with something before I left yesterday because I was freaking out. I saw the news. I was like, oh my God, he broke his collarbone. This is like everything. You know, I need this future to hit to get even this year. Max, I told you what I tell you. Do you want to tell everyone what I told you?

That I had to become an expert on shoulder injuries? Yep. And so what did you find? Put the camera on yourself, Max. I said that he has to learn. He said, I said, take these 24 hours, drop everything and become, basically go to medical school for shoulder injuries. The number one thing I, the number one thing I looked up right after you told me this was past quarterbacks with shoulder injuries. Okay. And I would like you to guess the first quarterback. Drew Brees. Incorrect. Ben Rathausberger. Oh, okay. Ben Rathausberger was the first one that came out. Drew Brees was ribs. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. It's a spraying, it's a spraying shoulder. People spraying their shoulders all the time. One to three weeks. One to three weeks.

One to three weeks. Take the three weeks. Give you, give you the fourth. Take the buy from the first week of the playoffs. What about rust? Now we got a rust situation. Now we got a big time rust situation. We're going to have a rust situation, but it's fine. That's the main thing. The main thing now is that he threw a 68 yard dime to AJ Brown after the injury occurred. That's true. So it's adrenaline though. It's so fact though that no, no, no adrenaline against the Bears. Whoa. Whoa. Have you seen the Revenant Zero? And you were dirty team. Well, that's dirty team. I said that this Bears Eagles game was going to fuck me some way and I didn't think it was going to be this after the fact. I thought that we were fine and then I see all this happen. The way

you say it's fine makes me so much more nervous. This is just how I talk about the Eagles for anything. It is true. You get a tinge of anger. It's fine. You don't, you don't sound fine. Well, I have another thing. I have one more thing. A shoulder thing? No, this is just a Jalen Hertz thing. I'm sick of people online getting all pissed off that Jalen Hertz runs. Because that's the number one thing is that, oh, this is what happens when you have a running quarterback. They're just going to get hurt. They're just going to get hurt. That's what makes Jalen Hertz good. Jalen Hertz is good because he can throw the ball and because he can run. And if you don't run, then you don't get the good parts of Jalen Hertz. So I'm sick of people getting mad about that.

That's a fact because the Eagles offense is dynamic because of, partly because of his running ability. Correct. And what he's able to do with his feet. Correct. So you can't just be like, well, don't run. Okay. That's a totally different offense. Agreed. Okay. That's the one thing. That's the one thing I add that. Okay. Here's one thing I'll add. And it's fine. And also, I want to add. And it's fine. It's fine. Here's one thing I'll add. There was one play that scared Jordan Milata yesterday when he's watching Jalen Hertz on Sunday. He's watching his quarterback run all game. There's only one play that scared him. He just laid there. Milata said, I ran over and said, stay down. He said, pick me the fuck up. And I said, yes, sir. And just picked him back

up and he went back in the game. So I think Jalen Hertz, you'd rather have a sprain than you would have a labrum or rotator cuff. No, that's the thing. The thing when they say it's a sprain, that encompasses all the ligaments of the shoulder. Whereas like if you sprain your ankle, there's certain ligaments they think if it's high or low, sprains like a little too gray. Billy. It could be like a C joint. Billy, Billy, Billy. Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy. Sound like a C. Billy, why don't you, why don't you pull up a seat? Let me take you to medical school real quick, Billy. The labrum is not a tendon. The labrum is not a ligament. The labrum is a protective thing that's around your socket joint. The labrum, if you, if you have a labrum

injury, that will keep popping out and dislocating it until you get it surgically repaired. That's what Andrew Luck had. That's what Drew Brees had. That's what I have. That's what Jake has. That's what I had in this shoulder and currently still do in this shoulder. I also have it. Okay, so then you should know that that's not, no. Yeah, you're going after the terminology, but it's general. No, Billy, you're talking about, you're talking about a C joint. He's got an a C joint. Yeah, well, yeah, it could be any of those. He's got an a C joint which could heal itself. It could get back to being healthy enough to play in the course of the next couple of weeks. If it's a labrum, then it's going to be just bad news for the rest of the, it's confirmed. A C joint. There we go.

Confirmed? Yeah. Confirmed. Okay. Confirmed by the tweets that I saw. By me. And by me too. By me right now. I will confirm. It could also be like a rotator cuff thing, which is, but it's the a C joint. Rotator cuff is muscles. Those are muscular tears. Right. But that's all encompasses that sprain umbrella term. Maybe if, maybe you, maybe when you say, I think you just interchange sprain with boo boo or stinger. Yeah. People say stinger and it's like, what the fuck does that mean? Oh, it's a sprain, but like it could be like something's totally torn. You're saying that you're just using it like the term nicked up or he's just, he's just banged out. He's shaken up. He's got to say like it does like sprains. It makes it sound a lot more bad than it was. So I think

we've established that that Billy does not know the shoulder. I don't know shoulder. No, we have his name is max. Billy, you don't, you don't know ball and socket. Yeah, sure. That's a fact. Also coming out of that game, Justin Fields said to reporters today, I just felt a 300 pound guy come on my back. Hey, yo, that was a real quote. Pause. Pause. Fucking a fucking a man resume. Fucking a man. It's just how it goes sometimes. Yeah. I like that. It do be like it. It do be like that. Yeah, it absolutely do be like that. Um, all right, let's, uh, let's do some hot seat cool throne. And then we'll get to our interview with Andrew Whitworth. It's brought to you by our friends at Skrill. Need a faster way to pay and play online. Today's episode is sponsored by

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So sign up for free. Again, Skrill.com slash bars will sign up for free. Hank, I have a couple hot seats if that's all right. Hank, you can do as many or as little as you want. Awesome. My first one is Willie McGinnis. Yeah, okay. Let's talk about that. Let's keep coming for Patriots. Or by the Patriots. By the Patriots. Yeah, it's been a good look at it. Video, apparently it was a couple months ago when it happened. It wasn't, it came out right after the Patriots game. So it seemed like it was like a reaction to the loss, but it wasn't a video from a few months ago. Timing was interesting, you're right. Oh, it was from a few months ago? Yeah, it was in LA. Illegal hands to the face by Willie? Of him and three guys just beating the fuck out

of someone in a restaurant. At one point he took out a wine bottle and was like hitting the guy in the head with it. Not a good look for Willie. No, no, it wasn't. I don't know what happened before that incident. Certainly seemed like they were, they were all very upset with this one particular gentleman for some reason. And they let him know that. It was, it felt like he did something very, I'm not victim shaming. Felt like that guy did something very bad to have Willie McGinnis and all those guys come and jump him in the middle of a restaurant. Willie's wrong, but I would love to get the backstory. And shout out to that guy for having an iron jaw. The fact that he was standing at the end of that was incredible. Absolutely incredible. But yeah, he started hitting him

with the bottle and it kind of stuck the bottle away like no one was going to see it. It was like, dude, everyone's, the whole thing's on camera. He was hitting him, yeah, like multiple times in the face with the bottle, underhanded, right? Yeah. He was doing like an underhanded wine bottle hit, which I haven't seen before. And then I think after the third hit, he realized what he was doing. And he just like calmly laid the bottle on the chair, walked away. What Billy? It is defensive. It wasn't Italian restaurant. So there's just wine bottles everywhere. They shouldn't have, they shouldn't have put the wine bottles out. No, no, that like sometimes that happens like mob movies. That's true. Yeah. Oh, so no, Billy's society is to blame. Yes. For

putting these notions of violence about what happens inside Italian restaurants into people's brains. Yes. Like you remember what happened to Billy Bats? Exactly. That's right. So you walk into a bar and you just kind of go back into that zone. Yeah, tough look, tough look for Willie. My other hot seat is Tom Izzo. Oh, okay. Is he overrated? He is overrated, but I'm curious to see where you guys stand on this. I feel like I know, but a video came out of him eating popcorn and dropping a popcorn on the floor and then just picking it up and continuing to eat it. That's fine. I just sent it if you guys want to deliberate. That's a perfectly normal thing. I don't even abide by the five second rule when it comes to popcorn.

Are they outside? Because if they're outside, that's out in a gym. Oh, that's fine. Okay, Tom Izzo eating popcorn, dropping it, totally fine. Yes, completely fine. I do this all the time. It actually makes it gives more seasoning. Yeah, the majority of my meals are off the ground. So no, totally fine, fair play by Tom Izzo. If it was a sidewalk, then I'd have a conversation. Yeah, he's fine. Good job, Tom Izzo. Oh, wait a second. What? I'm an idiot. What? Videos from 2017. Oh, wow, you got duped. What was the reason they had to just put it around right now? Yeah, it's going around. I don't know why it's going around now. Did Michigan State just lose? I'm not really sure. I saw it last night and I saw

it was, I saw it a couple times because you might be getting Willie McGinnis on this one. He's definitely not in the hot seat. Okay, my bad. Cool Throne is messy. Yes. He put up a picture of World Cup holding the trophy and stuff and it became the most liked post on social media ever. Whoa. Yeah. 66 million likes or something. It beat out, what was it, that egg? Oh, I thought it was going to be the one with Ellen and Kevin. That was Twitter. Yeah, it was Twitter. It was like, it was bigger. There was a TikTok. Some random girl at a TikTok was 60 million likes. Holy shit. More than that. And there was, he, Salt Bay like invaded the field after and was trying to like cloud chase and take pictures

with everyone. And Messi saw him and literally just ignored him. It was the worst. Salt Bay is a fucking douchebag. Not really breaking news, but. So I'm in Argentina. I thought he was like, I was like, yeah. Could you imagine like the biggest moment of someone's life and you're trying to grab them by the elbow to be like, come take a picture with me? Like pouring salt on the trophy? No, it was, it was like, uh, when, when Papa John grabbed Peyton Manning after the Super Bowl, that's the, that's the World Cup version of this. Or I was actually saying, it was like, if Guy Fieri came up to Patrick Mahomes after he just won the, uh, the Super Bowl MVP and Patrick Mahomes gave him the cold shoulder, which would never happen because Guy

Fieri is a legend. Yes, facts. Uh, okay. Good job. Thanks. Good job. Appreciate it. PFT. Uh, my hot seat is Kansas City Superfans because this, I've become quickly obsessed with this story. Uh, and I've, I've done a lot of reading about it. Now we've had our fair share of run-ins with Kansas City Superfans on this podcast. Actually, this is a serious subject. It's a loss. I'm going to take this last off. Lawyer PFT is coming out. Okay. Um, we had X Factor on the podcast a couple, a couple years ago to discuss his trials and tribulations. Um, there's another Superfan in Kansas City named Chief Sahalik. Chief Sahalik, he has been mentioned on the show before. Sounds like he's addicted to the chief. He is addicted. He's got a chief's problem.

Yeah. Uh, but he's been on this podcast before. We've talked about him on the show. He's the guy that wears the entire wolf suit to the games with the GoPro on top. So he goes home and he rewatches the games from his GoPro angle. We've talked about it on the show before. Uh, he goes to every single away game and every single road game. He did not show up for the game in Houston on Sunday. He goes to every road every road game and he lives tweets. He live tweets his adventures about going to the games. He's also a big grind set guy. So he'll be like, I just got a job managing two more warehouses. I'm only 24. How do I do it? Dedication to hard work and always staying on that grind. You too can accomplish things. That's sick. So he's independently

wealthy. He's independently wealthy. Wow. And he's been able to attend all these chief's games. That's a lot of money. PFT. It's a lot of money. And you know what? He didn't show up for this game in Houston and everybody's like, wait, where's chief's a holic? He's supposed to be at the tailgate. He does hype videos before every game where he just puts on his wolf suit and he sprints up to the camera with a flag and goes like, let's go chiefs. Everybody you've probably seen them before they're legendary. Uh, so he did not show up. Chief's Twitter went into a panic trying to find out where chief's a holic was. Okay. Uh, because he's always at these games. Turns out chief's a holic on his way down to Houston, stopped in Bixby, Oklahoma real quick as one does,

robbed a bank, got caught. And now he's in, I believe federal prison awaiting sentencing. Uh-oh. And so he's, he's on $200,000 bail right now. And the speculation is that he's been going around the country to every chief's game and on his way, he drives all of them and that he's been robbing banks to fund his lifestyle on the road, attending these chief's games. Uh-oh. And so then I started looking back on his Twitter timeline. He's been spending a lot of money recently, not just on chief's games. He's contributed a ton of money to Patrick Mahomes and his charity going to his gala, purchasing paintings of Patrick Mahomes. That's some good money washing. Some good money washing. Uh, so chief's fans are all trying to figure out what's going on. It's crazy because

this guy had rivalries against the other Kansas City Superfans that were there. Some people are saying that this guy was robbing banks wearing the wolf costume. Um, that's not true. It was a different bank robber that was wearing wolf costumes. Which is, that's the perfect crime. That could, that could be the perfect crime. I was saying that X Factor, the other chief's fan, he's probably behind this whole thing. It stinks to high heaven. He probably bought a wolf costume, wore it to rob a bank just to frame chief's a holic. I mean, this whole story is just so perfect. I love NFL super fans. I especially love NFL super fans that, uh, spend their evenings robbing banks. Yeah. Like that's just, just the perfect story. Like the guy's a chief's a holic

and it's expensive to go to every single chief's game. Why not rob a bank on the way there? You're always on the move. Yeah. You never really in one place tough to track. That's imagine them uncovering this too, where they just like pull up the chief's schedule for the last 10 years. Yeah. And they're like, okay, road game in Miami. There was a robbery in Alabama. Like there was like just going through the entire list. I would not be where he was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like a Las Vegas Raiders message board poster that uncovered all this and then sent that information to the FBI being like, I think I've got your guy. That's a good theory. So he's, he's in prison right now. I plan on fading the chief's until they release chief's a holic from prison. Yeah.

Because like if you look at the last seven years, he's been robbing banks, going to these games allegedly seven straight, seven straight division championships for the Kansas City chiefs. He's behind bars. That's not good. Uh, I think, I mean, I love the Kansas City fans in general, like they're, they're super fan drama that we've just started scratch the surface of. Feels like it is like a breaking bad type series waiting to be uncovered. So I did one more step of research. So not only do we have X factor with everything that he went through legally last year, but we've got this chief's a holic guy. Also, there's another guy that got banned from going to chief's games because he had a Fochwa put on him because he

might have been involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Whoa. So this dude, Wahad Moharam, he was the helmet man is what he called himself. He would airbrush his face to be a Kansas City chief's helmet. And he was suspected to be involved in 1993 bombing. He actually ended up testifying against the blind shake and Abdul Amina, the guys that did the World Trade Center bombing. They put him in witness protection program, sent him to Kansas City. He couldn't keep his mouth shut and he became a giant super fan and would attend all these games being like, look at me and then somebody saw him. It's like, wait a second. The fucking Islamic Republic of Iran is out to kill this guy. And he's just sitting up in the 400 section of the game.

So the chiefs took away all his shit. This is the same thing as everyone we were talking about when the Indians were making their run. They went to the World Series. They were really good. And we're like, there's too much. There's too much of a spotlight on the Indians. They're going to have to change their name. Yeah, this is the verbal meme. Like you're going to win seven straight division titles and at what cost literally all your super fans are going to expose for criminal behavior. Yeah, this dude was literally on a terrorist watch list and he was one of their super fans. Cheese fans are wild. I have no choice but to respect it. They go hard. They go hard. There's another side of the coin where you can bribe us and we will be kind to you.

The other side of that coin is if we're just terrified of you, we will just be very nice to you. So I think I'm now scared of chiefs fans to the point where best fans in football. Yeah, I'll just say it. Best fans. Most hardcore fans in football. Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, most intimidating fans in football from a violent standpoint. Yes, absolutely. Wow. Chiefs fans. So we'll see what happens with Chiefs Aholic. Yeah. I guess he's probably what a story probably going to be in prison for for a long time. I would love to watch a documentary about all the chiefs fans. Yeah, like just break them all down. And then you got a cool throw. Oh, yeah. Sorry, it took a lot out of me right there. My cool throne is Ohio University. Okay. So they are in

the the Arizona Bowl. And I've been told from several people that they are supposed to be like the biggest party school in the country. I don't know if this is one of those things where every state has a school like that. If you go to school around it, you just say, Oh, we are like, Playboy said we're ranked number one. But I've heard from several people, they swear that it's true. I'm going to be down there at the Barstool Bowl with all these guys. We're going to be doing a pregame show. And for the pregame show, we want to see the people like the Van Wilders of Ohio. So if you go to Ohio, and you think that you are the biggest party guy there or party girl there, send us a video tag part of my tag tag part of my take in the video and send it to us and

tell us why you think that you're a big party person, why why Ohio deserves this label as being the best party school in the world. And we're going to go through them on the pregame show and we're going to see if that's actually true or not. Love it. Love it. Send it in. So excited for this bowl. So excited for this bowl. All right. My hot seat was Salt Bay. So way to go Hank. Also my chins. My cool throne is our goat on this podcast, Kail McCarr, best player in hockey. Did you see the clip last night? He, he was my school sportsmanship. Yeah, he, uh, they called a tripping against, uh, I think it was Barzell from the Islanders and Kail McCarr went up to the ref was like, no, I fell down and they took the tripping off. They didn't call it. He did the thing

from the commercial where he goes, coach, I hit the ball. Yeah. Yeah. He literally was tripped or he wasn't tripped. He was like a little bit of contact. Yeah. Had a flat tire fell down and then immediately it was like, no, I fell down on my own and they, they were like no, no penalty. You think Ronaldo would ever do something like that? Absolutely not. Hank, are you ready to come to the good side? Yeah. You're a messy guy now. Yeah. All right. Well, we don't accept you. So yeah. Yeah. You, you could have suck it off. I like the Instagram post. So yeah. No, you, you keep fucking dreaming about Ronnie and his short shorts and winning nothing. Absolutely nothing. Hank, you've been doing the show for long enough where you should have seen that coming

right there. That was pretty obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Is this wifi? No. Okay. McCarr, he's the guy that went to what? Yeah. No. Four straight sailing cups. No, no, no, no. Cal McCarr is the defenseman for the avalanche. Okay. Who's like an insane, insane player who scores goals, who's a great defenseman. He's, he's like a just absolute beast of a hockey player. Wi-Fi is, he's on the Canadian's. Oh yeah. Let's have you tell him. No, Cal McCarr is, if you want to sound like a real puckhead, when people are like Connor McDavid's the best, be like, no, Cal McCarr, he does everything. Yeah. Really, really get some street cred out there. He's an insane, insane player. Go ahead, Billy. My hot seat is NIL rules. So there's a new rookie for, sorry, a new incoming

freshman for FIU called Rowdy Beers, who has a really good NIL name thing is under NIL rules, he cannot have any alcohol sponsors of any sort until he's 21. Yeah. Because of recent updates to the rules. So is it going to change for this momentous occasion or you have lobbyists pushing the Rowdy Beers law? Yes. Yeah. It's if your name's Rowdy Beers. Or non-alcoholic beer you could partner with. Yeah. But I think he just has to like, you have to just let that happen, right? Like that's one of those ones, if we had a working government that made sense, they would just be like, hey, the guy's name is Rowdy Beers. I saw, I saw some of his social media posts. He seems like a big God guy, like very straight edge almost. There's no chance that if

your name's Rowdy Beers, that you make it to 21 without drinking, right? Like, you have to. I mean you're that's spitting in God's face. Your father's name is Beers. Yes. He's definitely, is it beer or beers? Be so sick of it. It's beers. It's beer. It's Dana's cousin. Hell yeah. Well, no, that's what he should do. Dana should just sponsor him. Yeah. And just pay him, just be like, this is my, this is my mascot. Yeah, Dana should sponsor him. So Rowdy Beers just promotes Dana's Instagram and Twitter. And then Dana obviously promotes drinking. Yeah. Dana, Dana's crushing beer this post brought to you by Rowdy Beers. Yeah, right. And that takes the place of zillion beers. Someone did send me a picture was this just sucks for Dana because he's made a brand and he's got

to stick with it. But someone sent me a picture of Dana beers drinking a water at a bar. Oh, god. That's tough. That was like, oh man, delete this. That's real tough. It's just such a hilarious thing for someone to see Dana beers in the wild and be like, what? He's drinking water? What the fuck? This guy. All right. Cool throne. Cool throne is veteran pranks on rookies. So Drake Jackson was out to dinner with the other guys on the 49ers and he got the check at the end of the night as a rookie. He was like, okay, I'm going to pay it. It was a $322,000 tab, which after a little fun game from the veterans, turns out was fake. They had given him a fake rookie check for like a quarter million dollars for one dinner. It wasn't actually that much. It was 7,500. Eric

Armstead cleared that up on Twitter, but that's a pretty hilarious prank. Yes, it was. It was good prank. Some people got really mad at it. Yeah. And it was pretty obvious that they weren't going to stick a rookie with $200,000 like that. And they should have. It was a 7,500 and they split it amongst them, but they were hitting him with like, let's get it. Turns out the waitress really racked it up. They said, like, make it like super high, like over 10. What number if we went out dinner and we made you stick with it? What would you like in Billy football terms? If it was $800, would you be like, what the fuck, guys? Are you going to sell a kidney? $800 I'd take, but I would be doing something for rent. Yeah. Okay. So we should do that,

thousand. We should take Billy out, maybe play credit card roulette. But Billy is also lying about this because the real line that he has is if we're doing dinner on Sunday and we say, okay, everybody do dinner separately, then Billy pretty much quit. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Like everyone doesn't get a free dinner. Then he, he quits. Yeah. The worst, the worst thing for Billy is when he texts like on a Thursday night and when I go home and then I come back and I'm like, I ate at home and he's like, Oh no, does this mean we're all on our own for dinner? So what am I supposed to do? Yeah, I've cleared up my broke boy ways recently. Oh, have you? I have. I haven't texted for dinner on Sunday night in a while.

But you do, you do hover. You start hover. You start hovering around six PMs in football season and we know like dinner is going to happen. Yeah. Just waiting for dinner. So like, I, we should actually do it as a test. Like if we just stopped doing dinners on Sunday, would Billy show up? Maybe not. Pete's off. Yeah, you'd show up. You'd show up. You'd show up. That's fair. You'd show up, but the dinner is nice. What was it last week? Oh, when we got our Chinese order and was like, is this too much? Billy's like, I'll just take it home. It's like, that's a fucking team player right there. Good job, Billy. Yeah, we need that as a fucking standup dude. All right, Jake. My hot seat is Chris Paul. So Pat Bev, our colleague,

he did a six spin move layup against Chris Paul and he did like the two small thing and they were down by 26. Oh, okay. Let's see. Oh, too small. That's, I like that. I hate that celebrate. I understand why you hate it, but I like that just because Pat Bev's like, you know, the tall people think they're so much better. They're born third base. Think they hit a triple. Keep, keep that same energy. Pat Bev always does. Like it doesn't matter. Down by 25, up by 25. Keep that same energy. Oh, he'll bring that same energy. By the way, I didn't even mention, I'm, I guess I'm back conversing with Kevin Direct because he called me a prick. I haven't been called a prick in a long time. You a prick, he said. Prick's a good one. Yeah. It is always

just great. Back on the radar, maybe. Well, it's always great to just tell an athlete like the real reason you have your job is because of fans like us. Yeah. And the media. And the, don't forget the media. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pat, did you see what, what Rosillo did on his most recent podcast? What? This is a great, great spin zone by Rosillo. He said is messy the Chris Paul of soccer. So he's just saying like Chris Paul is the goat. Just wait. Yeah. Just wait. Just wait. He's going to get one at the end and then you'll all laugh. You'll see. Just wait. I'm sure this year will be different. Yep. Yeah. My cool throne live golfers. It looks like they will be eligible for the masters. Oh hell yeah. They released a statement saying we don't support, or they said

like there's a separate, here it is. Regrettably recent actions have divided men's professional golf by diminishing the virtues of the game and the meaningful legacies of those who built. Although we are disappointed in these developments, our focus is to honor the tradition of bringing together a preeminent field of golfers this coming April. Wow. I love it. I mean, it's good for golf. It's good for golf. It's going to make some awkward groupings. Brooks back in Augusta, need him to win it. Yeah. He's, he won a master's. He has not won a master's. No green jacket. Two U.S. Opens, two PGA's. That sounds right. I want to say. Yeah, sounds right. But I'm excited about this too. The PGA Tour kind of overplayed their hand at the start of all this by saying we're

not going to let anybody compete. All that did was draw more attention to the live tour that was leaving. And yeah, the live tour, it also seems like they've done a great job at drawing a lot of people to look at where their money comes from and to be like, Hey, that's fucked up. It doesn't seem like when I think of Saudi Arabia, I don't think that most people have a more favorable opinion of their leadership because of the live tour over the last couple of years. Right? No, no, definitely not. Also, this is great news because it's just more people that Charlie Woods can kick their ass. That's true. He will just dominate more people. So is he eligible? He should be. I'll say it. Charlie Woods could win the master's right now if you wanted to. Is there a way

they let him in? He could win it. You know how Rory McElroy's dad bet on him when he was like 12 years old? Being like at one point, this kid is going to win a major championship. Can we do that with Charlie Woods somewhere? Like an all time future. Will Charlie Woods win a major? I would say. Yes, hammer. Absolutely. Multiple. Over one and a half majors for Charlie Woods. Over whatever his dad ends up at. Just bet on him to be better than Tiger. Charlie Woods is going to be the greatest. He's next up. Yep. We've always said that on this podcast. He's now. He's now. He's him. He's truly him. Yeah. All right. Let's get to Andrew Whitworth. And then we have Chad Henney on the other side. One question with the quarterback brought to you by our friends at Lucy.

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Thursday night football crew on Amazon Prime. You're doing the Jags Jets game on Thursday night. I'll start there. You look at the schedule in let's say first week of September and you're like oh no. Jags Jets week 16. Got to go to New York and now it's like it's actually a great game that has huge implications. Like I never saw this coming. I'd have to imagine you were dreading this game and now it's like this is the best game we've had in a while. No doubt about it. I think when you really look at the schedule you look at that one and you go oh man in between you know Niner Seahawks Cowboys Titans like oh man you got to go to New York. This probably won't be a very good game and you probably thought man I wish we could have had the Monday night game Packers Rams.

That's going to be an amazing game and you look at like those two records compared to what you think of this game. It's crazy how we never know when we go into a season who the teams are really going to be that you're looking to watch. Yeah. So you made a pretty good transition I'd say into NFL media. I know at the start everybody was like are you coming back or the Cowboys colony that whole thing. You had to learn real quick the tampering rules and like what it's like being on the other side of it. But I think that's been a pretty good transition. You're a big time hoodie guy. You had to like start out making a statement be like yeah I'm a hoodie guy I'm going to be a hoodie guy. That's kind of your thing that you've got right now. Is that was that something that

you consciously made a decision of you're like I'm not going to wear a tie on set. I've always been a guy that like just wore a hoodie. I mean I you know when I work out and train I've always got like a I cut the sleeves off always like a hoodie sleeve sleeveless shirt a sweatshirt or t-shirt on and I wear a hoodie to everything basically when I work out when I train and when I go to dinners and stuff I love to wear in sweaters like a hoodie and sometimes like some kind of just fun jacket not necessarily a sports coat like what we wear and so I was just wearing it and when we were talking about what I was going to wear on set they're like dude that looks actually really good on you why don't you do it the first week and I did it and it created like you know

it's like you have you know 10 people that say it's awesome and like six people were like you should die yeah because you're wearing a hoodie on tv you know so every week it's like no yeah you don't respect the game of football you're wearing a hooded sweatshirt I never understood why everyone gets in suits it's like be comfortable be yourself and you are yourself yeah I mean people forget we walk into work every day in basketball shorts and a t-shirt right it's not some professional job where you're you know I always like thought when I put a tie on a suit on like this is fake right this is not who I am I don't know anything about business I'm not some business guy I'm going to go ram heads with somebody in the next 30 minutes yeah you know but I'm rocking a tie

yeah so you mentioned the rams packers game that we watched last night um I don't know how to phrase this because I don't want you to hurt anyone's feelings in the rams organization but how happy are you that you retired that was the greatest retirement of all time you retired with a super bowl and then the next year everything fell apart for the rams yeah it's been unbelievable the injury stuff and just everything with them it's I mean it's historic right I mean it's never been happened in NFL history that really the loss of injury they've had in the offensive line everything else but yeah I will say it does make the transition a little easier to be sitting there watching that game and going all right I could it could be 15 degrees you're trying to play in a game that's

probably meaningless to walk away in your career that way I mean that would have been an exhausting way to go out so I definitely don't want to undo anything from yeah I mean it was incredible and now if you had lost a super bowl would you have come back no I really I decided you know kind of in January that I mean there was a multitude of reasons right like you know at the time really some of the young guys that I'd been mentoring that were behind me their contracts were ending Joseph Noteboom some of those guys Brian Allen and so it was like they're gonna have to decide what to do with them I had already kind of somewhat taken a pay cut to stay one more year and I made kind of commitment when I moved from Cincinnati to the rams it was like hey if the money is not what

I think justifies what I give to this organization and how I play then I'm not going to continue doing this and so I knew going into that season that we've started to go the opposite direction and I'd kind of given in to be there and I wasn't going to do that again and so I knew the writing was on the wall that this was going to be a really tough offseason where yeah maybe you can force your hand into them trying to give you another contract but I didn't feel like that was going to be the way to go so I kind of decided when we made the playoffs I told my wife Melissa like hey this is the last ride let's just put everything into this and see what happens so crazy yeah perfect ending well what about like let's put our cards on the table here we've got

like you know week uh two weeks left really before the end of of this year we get the playoffs started up in January um if team goes down a left tackle and they say hey Andrew I've got 15 million dollars for you to suit up for a playoff stretch let's just say hypothetically it's the Lions we hope it's not the Lions because we like both their tackles but if if the Lions are getting into the playoffs and they're like we need some help on the offensive line are you picking up that call oh man uh y'all gonna get me uh beat up when I get back to the hotel by my wife but uh you know what I might pick that call no uh here's the thing that's a truthful answer right there it'd be very selfish but when I actually ended my career we did the

math we did the research on it I'm pretty sure Jeff Saturday is the winningness offensive lineman in info history one of the most games starting of any offensive lineman and I think I finished like one game or two games behind it yeah but the only thing I've actually thought about like during this whole time is I'm like dang would you want to go try to get that record just because it takes a lot to get there right like one you got to have health and then two you got to play on winning franchises for a long time to be able to get there so it's not like it's something that's going to come up every year somebody's going to beat so you know that's the only one that still kind of sits there and I'm like man it'd be fun to be a part of that but I don't think so I'm enjoying what I do

well so Tom Brady calls you and round with the playoffs you're playing against the Cowboys you know he's going to win that game he's never lost against the Cowboys that would get it's like Mr 3000 with Bernie Mack find the one win you know hey you know what Amazon's done December 29th so technically I'd have a week to go join a team getting shape you know I don't think so what about uh I have a dumb rule that I've had as uh something that we should adopt in sports it's been an idea for I don't know five years now I've always thought that every college football team and basketball team should get one alumni that gets to play for they they get eligibility so like if Tom Brady retires from the Bucs he can go play for Michigan for a year if LSU if that whole existed would you

play a thousand percent really I went to the LSU I'd been in a college game in forever uh at least you know LSU game I went to LSU Bama this year uh incredible oh man it was an unbelievable game such a cool experience to be down there I was jacked up hadn't heard Colin Batten Rouge and pregame and so long I was ready to run through a wall all over again and I would I would take an opportunity to go play one year's football game yeah oh man I would do that over anything that would be so much fun don't you think that rule should exist like why not that'd be awesome everyone gets one because like think about like I it was based on Tebow like Tebow didn't make it in the NFL after a few years how great would it be if he was able to just play at Florida for another 10 years

oh dude I mean it makes sports a lot more fun with the the contracts at that level it's no different I mean we're playing professional sports so yeah I'll do you one better there should be an alumni game every year for every college so every NFL player could go back you play in one game and it's a rivalry game so it would be like Alabama versus LSU and you sell tickets you'd say the spring game have an alumni yeah alumni game you give all the money to the players like get them back in there oh my god that would be that would be yeah I'm thinking of my time Antoine Odom David Pollack I mean yeah there's you know all kind Alex Brown there'd be some legends right there just getting a chance to go at it yeah at 48 or something it'd be awesome

yeah I'd be fun we had uh we had Taylor Decker on the show a couple weeks ago and he was saying that the uh the thing he was best at was cheating he's really good at false starting but getting away with it he goes on like the he's quick the ancient hike is when he gets out of his set so um for you I've always heard that you know every uh every good offensive lineman is good at getting away with something in particular Mark Slath is always like yeah I was good at peeing myself and holding people that's kind of what he did what about you what was your thing where you like danced on the borderline of playing inside the rulebook but enough to the point where you had advantage oh man I said screw the borderline I just literally

it's the it's the outside wrap of the hands I put the clamps on the outside arms I'd always grab the outside of your arms or the outside of the pads and just hold you in that clamp right there that was it I mean I would clamp you down just almost like a little jiu-jitsu technique of of clamp putting the clamps on people to where they have to fight against that pressure I was a world class holder the first thing I see Pete Carroll the other night Niners Seahawks I go up to say what's up to him and it's Herb Street now Michael sitting out there talking to him I walk up and he's like oh my god here he I turned this guy in the refs forever every time I've ever played him I've screamed them to call holding on this guy they never do it they like him too much yeah and I said

look I've made friends with their refs yep and I you know what I put the clamps it's all hey I don't mind saying it I held people for a living guess what if you're an offensive lineman you got to become a world class holder yeah that's your job yeah right we're basically really high paid bouncers that's that's literally all they are okay you're you're on how to hold people you're a very nice guy and a very soft-spoken guy I would imagine that sometimes it would make like a small difference in the eyes of an official that has gotten to know you over the course of the past 10 years they're like he's not chill that's he's not holding that's Andrew come on yeah listen they're doing their best job but they're people like anybody else right I'm yeah man that was a great call over there on the

edge man you saw that one man that was a good job you got to flag out fast hey man that was a great call you know you always want to bring attention to those things or if there's a fight you want to be the first guy in there like oh hey ref I got you man yeah I'll split them up for you man you don't worry about it okay I got them you separate you know y'all you got to be on top of those things smart it's the hustle baby you got to know how to hustle yeah so so in covering the league now uh who what would you say is best offensive line right now because I you know it always is great I know the Eagles get thrown out there but is there anyone else maybe off you know the you know what we know is obvious right now that you see like ascending that watch out for them in in the

playoffs because their offensive line plays so well I think it's one of those things we keep talking about the weapons and you brought him up I mean the Lions group I mean yeah you know people keep talking about you know Jair golf's playing his best and the weapons they have offensively and all these things but you know they also just played a jet's defense it's been getting after people and they didn't touch Jared I mean no sacks you know barely hit him at all like you look at that that that is one of the reasons they're winning I mean given Jared golf time in the pocket and he's never been a guy who's able to do much after the play right if it breaks down he's not got it's gonna like run for a bunch of yards or create after the play but you give him that

initial time to sit back there and feel comfortable he's always been great at throwing the football so I think the way they run it the way they can pass protect that group doesn't get talked about enough in my opinion just because the team's record but how they've protected and how they've run the football all year they're a really good group but obviously there's the Eagles there's the Browns there's a lot of good groups but I think they're one that's not getting enough credit for how well they're playing it's a very good point and it's definitely why Jared's playing so well right now or part of the reason why um we talk about your Super Bowl incredible ending what was your worst game ever played worst game ever played you know I'm gonna go I got probably in my career

I mean one of them I was injured so I'm not going to give it the the nod yeah my worst game that I felt like I ever played was my rookie year we play in Indianapolis Peyton Manning in the Colts actually won the Super Bowl that year we're playing them a Monday night football for them to lock up I think their division and we were trying to get a playoff spot we had to win one of our last three and in pre-game warm-ups our Pro Bowl right tackle Willie Anderson hurts his foot and all week long it had been hey our rookie left tackle is going against Dwight Freeney we're gonna have to slide to him help him the whole game and I was excited about having help against Dwight Freeney at that time and he gets hurt in pre-game and we had to move our left guard to right tackle and it was

like all right look guys whatever way we call it we're just gonna slide to whoever it is the protections at and I'm like oh boy and we got down two or three scores early and it became just a bloodbath it was like the ugliest film I've ever watched I mean I'm just holding on for dear life every play you don't talk about holding I'm jumping in the air just holding this guy like a three-year old seeing their dad for the first time I mean I'm just jumping on him with everything I got trying to clamp legs feet arms hold him to the ground he gave me a good lesson as a rookie that game I found out real quick that you better be ready for anything in this league yeah that's a good I mean it's always like it's gotta suck so bad he was such an unorthodox guy he was smaller in stature

so fast off the ball if a lot of people remember the Jonathan Ogden game that he had such a special game against you know what a tremendous player but that's how he was if he could get off the ball on you and they had a lot of past situation that spin move was so rare I mean nobody in this league has ever been able to replicate him and the ability he had to spin on you it was just such a tough move that if you haven't faced it you didn't know how to stop it until you got used to it and he was tremendous at it is there one guy that was like just stronger than all the rest you knew after you played against this dude well you know I got to play in the AFC north for 11 years against Terrell Suggs and James Harrison so one thing I actually felt good about when I faced strong

players or physical rushers that was like all right I can relax because nobody was a better test each and every week than playing James Harrison twice a year and Terrell Suggs I used to tell people like James was like the type of guy it was you know guys set up rushes James sets up like I'm gonna see how many times I can hit you as hard as I can hit you and make you basically cower down to that kind of contact throughout the game I mean there'd be plays where the ball's been gone you'd go back and watch film you're like dude the ball was thrown a half a second ago like why did he come hit me but that was his mentality like I'm just gonna bull the crap out of you every play regardless of whether the ball's there or not because I want to like create you

to be like man I'm tired this guy hitting me would you like check instagram the week before you're playing against the Steelers and James Harrison was like I don't know throwing a giant dog over volleyball net or whatever weird exercise he played with us for one year we get in at like money mornings it's five a.m. I'd go in the facility like six o'clock this dude's been there since five and he's I mean you walk in there and you could we ours had all glasses you walk in the facility you could see the weight room and he's got six seven plates just hitting 600 pounds on squad at 5 30 in the morning on a Monday after a game you're just like what in the world is going on yeah I barely want to get up and up and down out of a couch much less put 600 pounds on my back

this is just moving weight yeah by the way I looked up the stats from that Monday night football game Dwight Freeney had three sacks three force fumbles and two QB hits as well so so let's get back to the Super Bowl so we won the Super Bowl last year like holy shit he had a day let's talk about the Super Bowl but let's talk about the other Super Bowl coming back from that one from the loss was that tough to actually get up for the next season did that take you you know what I didn't motivate it in the offseason opposite I thought I was like that was as fired up as I've ever been I thought really from that year until this year when in the Super Bowl it's like the most locked in I've been in my career because for whatever reason it's almost like tasting it a

little bit and just being there and be like wow okay how big that stage was the opportunity to get back there man would be out of this world and so you were willing to do whatever to get back in that seat again and plus we knew we kind of had a window with the talent we had to make another run and so I think that was like the most locked in I've ever been in my career after that it was obviously heartbreaking but that's actually why I continued I remember getting asked after the game like you know are you gonna retire or whatever now you at least made the Super Bowl even though you lost and I mean I never even like had a half a thought about retiring because I was so fueled up to like get going we actually landed from Atlanta we fly back the next day we landed

Atlanta and I put on headphones and started working out in the facility when everybody was like getting their cars leaving I'll never forget this and like walking around the field I was kind of job doing some jogs stride stuff like you'd normally do on a Monday after a game just kind of like getting my monitor like I was like dude I'm locked in I'm going now like I'm not taking a break I'm not being off I'm going straight to training so that year you are you know went to LSU from Louisiana do you want to apologize to Saints fans because we had the we had the idea that I think it was a couple weeks ago we're like you know there's like one or two Saints fans that are still sitting there being like they're gonna reverse this call and they're gonna let

they're gonna play this again like four years later so do you want to apologize well here's the thing I still have trouble crossing the border there because as soon as I get there it's like hey man you did a lot of great things for LSU but you like go screw yourself yeah right played for the Rams like it's like listen guys I they paid me to play there I had nothing to do with the call like he can be as mad as I mean literally we were like like having to like hold on to friendships after this like people are like hey listen we've been your friends for 20 years but you went to the the championship instead of the Saints so like we can no longer be your friend again right and now it's that's fair and now you look now you work for the NFL oh yeah other

big enemy exactly so I'm just you know me number one I do look so apologize I you know hey listen I'm sorry that you went through the experience of not getting the call that you went you wanted not sorry that we went to the Super Bowl I'm sorry your feelings got hurt yeah sorry for your feelings that's it I apologize to your feelings you know he was there early though right like you you can admit what you're saying the locker room after you guys like holy shit how we get away with that one I mean listen you're talking to an offensive lineman we hold every play yeah so like when you're talking about getting away with a call that's fair 85% of pass plays Olimon are like did I get away with it right yes all right awesome play like you hold all the time there's always

some you're in a hand-to-hand combat like the whole concept of holding is actually kind of crazy think about it like you are literally fighting some guy and then all of a sudden it's like oh a jersey pulled now you held yeah it's like we're in hand-to-hand combat I don't know if I held or not but I'm gonna turn around and find out by the ref right so we're used to it so when I saw a no call I'm like hey I love no calls yeah that's my favorite thing in the world that's why I never complained about anything a D lineman does he puts his hands in my face you'll never hear me say a word because I love no calls yeah we're gonna get back to Andrew Whitworth in a second he's being brought to you by 3G now introducing the next evolution in ultra pure cannabis products Delta 9-0 by 3G

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responsibly and now here's more Andrew Whitworth what about the the Todd Gurley episode where he went down and says scoring a touchdown you remember that were you in the huddle for that one uh yeah yeah yeah you say he was gonna do that did he think it was a Packers Pat well he did twice he did it in the one yard line he had like a loan where he ran he ran like across the field and got down and then Packers yeah no that was our plan it was a uh y'all know the situation yeah we know the situation is very well do we know what it's called it was uh what is it called fuck everybody watching at home yeah you guys will love us it's called Rolex oh god that's a McVeigh term isn't it god damn it of course it is of course it would be a little pretty boy

he called it Rolex because it's time matters so he'd send the play in and be like hey it's a Rolex situation guys so you gotta get down yeah let's screw everyone who had the over that's what you did yeah the Rolex was it weird when you when McVeigh showed up the first uh you know when he got hired and you're there and you're like I'm older than you was he trying to be I think we actually talked to him about it that like at first he was maybe trying a little too hard to be like I'm everyone's boss then realize like some guys are just gonna be older than me yeah I think at first he didn't know how exactly to approach those relationships like I think for him it's always been like just you know y'all know what he is he's just so passionate and locked into what he's

about and those kind of things that I think you know you're 30 years old you've literally the most like highest seat you've had you've been an offensive coordinator like you've never been like in charge of an entire building and place and all that right he had no idea how to be so it's just hey I'm trying to form relationships and fill myself out as a leader of like the entire building and I think that's some things that people lose when you talk about head coaches like most these guys have never sat in that seat before ever in their life they've either come up as an assistant coach you know an offense coordinator only a few have been a college coach and come to that seat so it's like they don't have no idea they're still trying to figure out who they are as a coach you

know but we live in a nature now whether it be quarterbacks coaches it's like man you better do it right at the beginning or you're done right we're getting rid of you fast right yeah I know it is always interesting I mean it's something we talk about because we you know cover like talking about the league always is like that that moment where you can lose the locker room even like a Dan Campbell this year one in six right I said it on this podcast like if they keep losing like it might it might be over here so can you can you sense in the locker room when a coaches you know message you're just starting to not really resonate with the guys and it just doesn't hit the same way yeah and I think what you start to see and I think Sean has been so good at this

in his career is you start to see that you are like in where you're going with things you're not really feeling the empathy of the room you're in charge of and I think the guys that are really good you know if you've molded guys and you've led guys a certain way that empathy like you're like all right I see where the team's at and where they're going and what I need to say regardless of whether you 100% believe it yeah you know you look at the Zach Wilson situation like the reality is that was like a situation where he didn't feel like hey dude could you not feel this entire locker room feels like hey man you got to play better for us and you like missed a moment to like just even if you don't agree with it right I just need to be better bottom line I need to be better and

we can't leave the defense in that situation and that's really one of those moments where it's like you can't miss those as a leader as somebody who wants to be really good in the league as a head coach you can't miss the moments to be exactly what your locker room needs you to say not necessarily what you think is the right thing to say yeah that's a good point like that that that time that you have where you can nail it and be like I need to say what everyone needs to hear at this moment yeah and I may 100% not agree with it right that's a good point I get the feeling like players like Zach Wilson they if they go through some bad times with the media they start to hate the media right so what Zach was saying in that moment I think inside his own head was like a big fuck you to

the media for asking me that question it might not have been what he felt was the truth if he were to talk to the guys in his locker room yep but he was kind of saying he was living that message to the reporters in that room that he does not like or he's he's frustrated with at that period of time are there players that that you've talked to or that you've been around that have maybe expressed to you the importance of like this can be a good relationship with the media because I mean look at you right now you're out of the league you're working for an NFL network you're doing a great job but you might not have had that opportunity if you hadn't been friendly to the media during your time as a player yeah I think learning how to do what you're saying you know put things in

where they are and the reality is like hey I play this game this game is brought about by fans being interested in the game people betting on games people following the game and where do they get a lot of their information from the media the media drives what the fans know what people know out there and so you got to come to like hey I have this job I get this opportunity because of the people who help follow this game and create the buzz that I want I get the benefit of being this high-profile player get these marketing deals media deals whatever it may be from those relationships and also because of those people existing so I think sometimes you can get caught up in those moments and it's tough after a game you've lost in a heated battle people have to remember these

dudes are warriors like they're going out there battling and you're hotheaded you're tired you're exhausted you're mad you're frustrated yourself and sometimes your words come out frustrated at the people asking you the questions and you're really just mad at you and you're mad that you even have to answer the question because you put yourself in this situation right and I think that sometimes you forget that and you answer it about your anger towards yourself and towards the fact that they even are asking you that and you don't have time to step away and go hey wait a minute am I really in a fight with this person like that all they're doing is trying to write an article right like that's not who I'm gonna fight with right and I think you just got to learn who you

take that anger out on and I think some people are better than others I think we get mad when a bella check or a brady or these are short and don't really say anything right but I think that's probably how they've learned to go that's this the only way I can not put myself in a situation that makes me lose the locker room or lose people's opinion to me I just need to step away and when I'm in a better headspace I'll be back to say what I need to say yeah did you ever have a moment in your career where you gave an answer and you're like you walked off and the PR person was maybe like hey that one was stupid yeah I think I've kind of gone like you're a little hotheaded with an answer yeah I mean something like owning something like that I think that you know no I

mean I think I've always been one that's like I'm gonna be the hardest on myself anyway so maybe more times it might have been like hey just don't jump on the sword completely like you don't have to say you in the offensive line right today you could just say hey we should have been better in some situations like because sometimes you can do that you can bash yourself in your group and then all of a sudden you create a narrative on yourself because you're in there just jumping all over me like just blame us for everything you know and it's like all right that's a little too much yeah that's a good point so so uh your first year without football and I don't know what is it 35 I mean when did you like since you started I mean let's say college and pro it's 25 years that

you're easy a full season that you get to sit on the couch we have a debate whenever we have players on who are recently retired what's harder playing in the NFL or watching the NFL uh well here's what I'll say taking this job with Amazon being a part of NFL on prime like I it has been really cool for me because I would say the last six years of my career it's like I kind of played everybody there wasn't a lot of new rushers that I'm having to face like I've played most people I've played so like film study and things like as far as what my job is it was pretty easy but now like getting to like reinvest into the whole game the whole picture of the quarterbacks the defenses the coverages stunts blitzes everything that's going on GM decisions coaches decisions it's been like

invigorating to me I every sunday I watch every single game I'm trying to figure out a way I can like on my phone on my computer on the tv watch everything I can and just digest as much as I can of the game so for me it's been out of this world exciting to watch the game I've loved it I think it's easier to watch the game have you ever been have you ever been like laying on your couch for three hours 45 minutes maybe your legs asleep then your tv it flashes on the screen like are you still watching this will be this box will be set to idle if you don't do something and then you can't find the remote in your room yeah that's tough and also realize that when you fill up the table with all the food like if you're going to be the only one that's going to sit there

the whole time you're going to end up eating oh yeah so I think I've little like I'll tell you what's harder stay in shape and watch games okay it's it's awful way here yeah I think I've lost 30 pounds of muscle and gained 30 pounds of fat so it's just kind of neutral right you feel good about it I mean it's even what about like uh let's just say you go over four in the in the first slate one o'clock slate you forget that the game you really love is at 405 you miss to bet it and then you go another like over two in the afternoon that's harder than playing the NFL yeah and here's the worst part about it there's nothing you can do about it like I play bad in a game I go out Monday I'm working my butt off like I'm getting you know hey I'm gonna do extra conditioning I'm gonna

extra film I'm gonna push myself harder in the weight room when you go over six betting all you gotta do is be mad at yourself till the next week and then just second guess every decision that you ever possibly made and what you believe in what right and one thing I've learned too is all the statistics you're like yeah I'm reading all these stats I'm trying to say who's winning and then I'd go with the team that I think the stats say he's gonna win no stats are for losers yep Howard 100% said that stats for losers yeah yeah number never won a Super Bowl mm-hmm I agree that's a fact trust your eyes just guys what about when you said uh you you actually did say that you got triggered by the word the data says yes was that about player safety or was that about yeah I just love it

like when we're talking about all right just specific to turf right like when we say the word data says like who gave you the data because the only people who actually play on the surface right it's not some like there's not other people that are experiencing what is this the surface due to them other than the players so if the players hate playing on the turf that's the only data that actually really exists right so because everything else is well these many injuries have happened here blah blah blah like I don't think that's really what the argument is the argument is I know that after I play a game on turf I feel awful for three or four days your knees your joints your body like you just feel terrible getting ready to play the next week is harder like we already

talk about the rebound time in the NFL to play in these big battles every week so you just feel terrible whereas when I play on grass there is a drastic difference how I wake up the next day like just my body in general like how I can work out how I can train it's night and day different that's crazy because I think what we've all just assumed is the technology they've used with the turf has made it so good that it's not that doesn't happen anymore but you can really really feel it oh no that trainers know it I mean if you go to NF if you went to every NFL trainer and you just went to those guys along like the head trainer and you said how do you guys feel playing on turf first grass he'd be like oh there's a difference that's crazy no doubt we're guys by

the way we have your back yeah big time yeah yeah we have to feel now I'm not like hey I'm not blaming turf for things I'm just telling you that if NFL players want to play on grass then that's what we should play on if I'm playing in the PGA open like we're not worried about what like public is going to do with the golf course next Friday so we're going to be worried about what surface how we're going to cut the grass we're going to make the grass on the greens for PGA tour players to have their best performance right so it's like no matter what sport you're talking about it's all about the player experience but in the NFL it's about well oh well we want to have tours and what about concerts and what about other things that want to come here and it's like wait a minute

all we're talking about is what the players want to play on yeah it's it would basically be like if the NBA was like we're going to play on hardtop yeah and like hey we decided it looks cool yeah it looks cooler we're going to play on on concrete and we don't have to have as many towel wipers yeah right if we go on concrete yeah so yeah I think that the field turf it it works in theory and it's better than astroturf I think that's kind of what they thought they're like how do we make artificial surface that's not just concrete that you're landing on all the time they came up with the answer in field turf and then everyone kind of went along with that because it seemed like a nice happy medium between it but it's about 50-50 in terms of fields in the NFL right there might be

like one more or two more maybe yeah artificial tours we should just do a study and look at injuries of teams that play the majority of their games on field turf but he's saying don't do that because the data doesn't matter but I'm saying like wait it's just whatever they should feel but if if if yeah okay because I think there's injuries and that's kind of my point their data only shows injuries right but what about like hey this dude who's yeah if you're an older player the inflammation you're gathering playing on concrete like I always tell people all right just go run on concrete for a while and then like go on some soft surface and bounce around like you're gonna feel totally different you go on grass and jog around and you go on concrete and jog around

there's a night and day difference in how your body's gonna feel that's just a fact oh yeah I mean I agree with you I we are team grass we are big grass I love it you would only find probably kickers like the turf and that's about it yeah they better footing so yeah they're probably like it and more likely it usually means they're either indoors or in a better situation with turf so yeah yeah they probably like it um you guys remember when you had the lightning delay indoors yes I do that was the craziest thing I've ever experienced like what's going on I can't be struck by lightning but we can't play right now what I don't know what's happening did you know that that could happen when they're building that stadium that like billion dollar stadium it's like wait

well it's technically not indoors no it's not indoors we found that out fast because the very first time we did a scrimmage in there it was 90 something degrees outside in LA and we go in there and realize like man all we really we're playing in a greenhouse like it was holy it was like being in a sauna in there because it's just holding the heat in but you're not actually outdoors so you're not getting breeze or any of that in there I mean I think we were dying that day and everybody's like wait a minute that's not what I was thinking like it was gonna be cool like an indoor yeah and it was not at all it was hot and that place actually gets really warm Super Bowl was warm there's a lot of big games in there when they're played at the right time of day it's hot in there

yeah you uh you get a chance to watch the halftime show at all I know the Bengals kicker watched it the Bengals kicker did watch it I did not get to watch it I did afterwards though obviously I've seen all the playbacks of it in sayings that's obviously my era of like you know the music that I grew up so that was sick yeah um all right so I had one last question it's a row back question promo code take 20% off your first purchase uh qzips polos hoodies joggers everything at RHOBACK.com promo code take uh for 20% off my last question I'm gonna give to Billy. Billy football has a question Billy let's go Billy's questions the other games you've given up three sacks thanks yeah yeah what were the other ones off the top of your head uh Elvis Drummerville anyways go

when Ryan Fitzpatrick on the night of the white bangle uniforms made that comment how fast did you distance yourself from that uh you know I think sherm actually pulled my chair towards him really fast I don't know if you ever watch sherm like constantly is like in my in my rib cage with elbows punches with the funny things that people say uh but yes he pulled me close and you know what's wild is he actually had said the comment during like our rehearsals what was it coming again uh so it was we were wearing the all white unis yeah the bingles were we're wearing the all white unis and obviously Ryan and I both played for the bingles and so we'd Carissa had touched on and what a special night it was because the bingles are wearing their all white uniforms and

Ryan was like and we were a pair of white bingles at one time so it's like what but that's Fitz he's just he's hilarious and dude he is dude he is awesome it's been so much fun to be back around each other after we played together for a couple years in Cincinnati so yeah that was a fantastic line has he ever tried to use like big Harvard words try to like intimidate everybody with his knowledge oh man all the time the guy's just so smart you know and the thing is is like most his jokes are awesome it's just I have to get him to kind of explain to me what the words mean that made it funny sometimes but uh you know I mean look the guy's always gonna have a couple buttons down chest hair out beard you know I watched Richard Sherman shave his neckline

this year I mean you know we're really tight on our group I mean obviously we're shaving necklines I'm gonna try and maybe one of them will shave my back here soon I don't know I like you know we're a close group yeah oh I forgot one real quick last question how nice is Andy Dalton dude he's a the red rifles one of the kindest dudes ever nice dude ever right yeah no doubt agreed yeah I mean he's a nice guy he is like really nice guy we've had him on the show he went in the band nice guy yeah I think it'd actually be a challenge to see if you can make Andy Dalton say something mean wouldn't be able to do it I wonder if it's possible nope wouldn't be able to do it nice guy in the world very nice guy well him and Blake Portals yeah he also played for

who's nicer Blake or Andy you know what that one's a tough one I think Andy would probably harder to get to say something mean because Portals will let it out every now and then he'll let her rip with you you know he'll he'll light one up and have a good time you know so Portals is my guy I love you I mean like he's our best friend oh dude like we're actually he like he's not really friends with you he's friends with us not to make it a competition but he's our best friend yeah I listen I don't doubt it one time I was with him in camp and literally driving somewhere and I'm seeing like looking out the windows both are I'm like dude what are you looking for like we're going to dinner and he's like oh I'm just trying to find somebody that could grab a pack so I could light

up when we get out of here I'm like this guy's already thinking about a cigarette he didn't even had a drink yet when we went to we went to we stayed at Jared's house and Blake came over and he told the greatest story probably in the podcast history that he bought a Tesla because he was trying to quit dip so he didn't have to go to the gas station anymore and then he was like I I didn't quit dip I just bought the Tesla just plugged in the address to the gas station just dropped me there he's like I figured that's the best way to quit is just never have to go to the gas station anymore that's nice $200,000 car to quit dip legend he's the best but yeah check out Andrew Whitworth Thursday night Jags Jets gonna be an awesome game very excited for this game

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free on Alexa offer only available in the United States and now here's Chad Henney and now for something completely different okay we are doing one question with a quarterback very special guest it is Kansas City Chiefs quarterback the most famous Kansas City Chiefs quarterback right now Chad Henney uh Chad thank you for joining us one question with a quarterback I think you know how it works we all get one question then you get a question back to us I'll start I gotta know uh how has it been recently having the name Chad do you think Chad's get like a they're getting a bad rap right now I don't know I mean uh if you go back a few weeks ago I think Chad Powers is taking us over I mean with Eli Manning coming back and uh you know

trying out again it's pretty impressive Chad Powers is on the roll I mean I think we get the douchebag kind of persona but uh I think we're still rolling okay all right Chad's doing well I have a follow-up but I'm not allowed to ask it so but um Chad's are Chad's are still going strong I was gonna say like Chad the it seems like a a diet Chad might be a Blake and you you played with the Blake is Blake of the mall uh two what two time Blake of the year champion yeah Blake Bortles uh you played with him down in Jacksonville uh we're just going around the last couple days of these guests here that we've had on uh telling and sharing our favorite Blake Bortles story so what is your favorite Blake Bortles story oh man there's so many um yeah I think that one that

comes to mind is I don't know what year it was if it was 2015 2016 obviously we were out of the playoffs so Blake on Super Bowl Sunday is like let's go play some golf and I was like all right you know no problem 10 a.m meet you at the course of course we get two messed up we're drinking 15 beers maybe three or four minis I'm like shit I call my wife I'm like you know how about my wife makes us like some Super Bowl get up a little food a little drink and this is my daughter at the times two months old my son's probably two so she goes out to the grocery store with all kids and she's like all right I got all the food we're ready to go I'm like Blake I don't I don't think we can drive home we better have somebody pick us up so we Uber to my house and I just get nasty

sick I just started throwing up everywhere dry heaving I was like Blake why don't you stay down get a beer you know Brittany will be down hopefully she'll cook you some food took an hour my wife's pissed and Blake's just down there for an hour just drinking a beer and he's like dude I'm leaving I sat on the toilet for six hours dry heaving just throwing up ridiculous so he left oh I can't ask a question yeah he left he was like you know what I'm not staying around for you dude you gotta get together he's the best we we once uh we once stated his house we stayed over his house in Jacksonville and he just left the key for us and was like just let yourself in he didn't come home for like eight hours we were just hanging out in his house it's just the best doors always open

up lakes yeah yeah all right bill you got a question hey Chad Billy here so you've been in a couple of quarterback rooms we recently also had Chase Daniels on and asked him what was his favorite contribution to make to whatever quarterback room he was in he said coffee makers a certain type of coffee maker just wondering what's your favorite contribution to make in a quarterback room it doesn't have to be a physical object could just be like a mentality thing but what would that be I mean it's definitely got to be our knowledge I think you know being the league for 15 years I think what we bring to the table you almost are like that secondary coach you understand the game and kind of can help out the younger quarterbacks as much as possible

I think I've done that with a lot of guys with Blake Bortles with Lynn Gabbard obviously Patrick Mahomes so I think our knowledge is definitely one of the biggest attributes yeah all right Hank what's up Chad uh you played at Michigan with with Ryan Mallet how good was his arm I mean stupid six seven I mean 250 pounds I mean just a pure rocket cheer I remember the first day he came in I felt like I had a strong arm he threw like a ten yard out route went right through the receiver's hands and like pelted the wall sounded like a shotgun went off I was like geez this kid's gonna be special yeah he had I uh I remember watching him at Michigan being like holy fuck this guy's arm is insane not always accurate but insane arm could use some touch

yeah a little touch uh max wrap us up and then Chad will have a question for us I'd just like to know what makes Kansas City fans so special and crazy did did Kansas City ask that question for you what was that oh I mean I just think they show out each and every game I mean I don't think it matters what game it is I mean my first time coming to the stadium in 2018 I don't know who we're playing but 8 a.m. I got there like four hours early and it was jam packed I mean you got the smokers going barbecue rolling I mean people are just getting rowdy and they're just a special group of people they're always there cheering us on and wouldn't allow the stadiums ever played in yeah yeah all right so you got a question for us I don't know

um I was trying to think what what I could ask you I mean how about everybody impersonates Patrick Mahomes voice oh well we got one we got one pft has the best Patrick Mahomes uh impersonation I don't know if that's really nice than you do Chad I mean come on another man's program telling him what to do with us how to do his accent stuff like that I think that's just a little hood wiki oh pretty good right not bad not bad I just love kitchen I'm here I'm here I'm him I'm him yeah Chad thank you so much we appreciate it man uh best of luck rest of the year in the playoffs which you guys have you know you're backing it again seven straight years of we we actually we announced on the last part of my take so we can congratulate you right now

on uh eight straight a fc west championship so we've already given you next years because every year teams are everyone's like in the media is like oh look out for the Raiders look out for the charger just give it again so you guys win eight straight yeah congratulations on that thanks thanks for having me guys all right thanks man Chad Hennie was brought to you by Chevy playoff pictures are starting to emerge there's contenders and there's pretenders Jake what's a contender who's a contender right now hmm the Detroit Lions yeah I like it and Jake who's a pretender the Dolphins the Tennessee Titans Tennessee Titans yeah where there's one team that's always a pretender and one team that's

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should go or not yeah she followed up she said hey boys this is an update I ended up going to the concert with my ex boyfriend by the way sorry for saying not saying who it was I thought I did it was the weekend anyway I gave in and said yes and let's just say it wasn't the best experience I've had in the slightest he pretty much tried to start an argument with me the entire time and ended up leaving with another girl who he met there big cat was definitely wrong with the having a baby that night thing at least on my well love you yeah no he might he might have so I don't think I was wrong he might have had a baby what were you saying that you're gonna get back together yeah I thought they were gonna get back together because it was like um what was it I guess the breakup they didn't

get back together when he was supposed to go to meet him at the concert Jennifer Anston and uh Vince Vaughn yeah so I was wrong I was wrong hand up my bad was it was a concert you got to go see the weekend yeah that's pretty awesome he's one of the I fucking love the weekend love that guy ladies and gentlemen no the weekend uh that always plays hey PMT boys question here for a bro football doc billy football my boyfriend nick came in last place in his fancy football league and his punishment he has to enter a bodybuilding competition I've been trying to give him advice on how to get bigger and stronger but he says I don't know what I'm talking about any advice on how he can get swole I think steroids may be his only hope at this point yeah it's definitely

not worth doing steroids for an off bodybuilding competition if you're not gonna make it like your actual career why not wouldn't be cool to look awesome once yeah like if you can get one great picture of you and just put it up all over your house but just ruined your whole body for your like whole life you only do one cycle why would you why would you get into a bodybuilding competition not like want to at least try to compete yeah like if you're gonna be in there you don't want to finish last you got some beta energy right now I'm just gonna say it look I mean if it's a natty bodybuilding competition you can't like actually take steroids beta alanine just low calories going up like it's a whole different like it's a bodybuilding

is like super dangerous aren't they all natty competition yeah I know everybody lies yeah I think you I think in the natty competition you wanted your steroids you know what just tell him just chicken and rice that's what everyone says okay just eat chicken and rice and you'll be okay yeah just five by five Arnold's big three you know if you can't put on mass doing that then then maybe try the chemicals we're about dmaa meth yeah yeah maybe I just mdma I just purchased some some of that geranium extract should be getting in any case he's about to start doing some meth okay it's like it's not it's geranium seed acts extract Billy it's not meth totally different not a drunk guy no uh gentle boys I'm 98% sure my boyfriend is going proposed to me on Christmas

eve I know he has the ring and has gone out of his way to make sure all my extended family will be there at our Christmas party this year he is also a huge football guy in his jail and hurts in fantasy football oh according to him if jail and hurts doesn't play on Saturday Christmas will be fucking ruined he has pretty much said he's going to bail in my family's party if hurts doesn't play did I read things wrong is he trying to throw me off am I about to get engaged to a lunatic help yeah you are but um the good news is when Gardner Minshew wins that game he's going to be so happy well he's going to propose to you anyways well he's got he's got to pick him up in fantasy it's fantasy not eagles oh he's not eagles you know he says fantasy oh shit yeah he's got to pick

Gardner Minshew up and then Gardner Minshew will make you want to get married yeah yeah I tell him tell him hey this Gardner Minshew guy I listened to his podcast they've been talking to him up they said dead coach came like you should probably pick him up Sirianni also just came out breaking moves and said he's not ruling out jail and hurts oh his body is different his body is different his body is not like ours I will not rule him out wow that's that might be Sirianni doing the pandering Philly yeah it is Sirianni's doing too much for sure like yeah this guy I'm not gonna rule him out Sirianni's like uh uh I hear no bell yeah yeah hey boys when my husband Max has ever get like irritate you just a little bit that Sirianni like

tries so hard to be Philadelphia 100% oh okay yeah I just want to make sure you I think I think he's a good football coach but he's he's corny he's corny yeah by the way that guy that the last question just to to wrap it up um you're dating a winner that's a winner you know what I'm saying like he knows and a real winner in life is someone who knows if they're gonna lose they don't show up that's a winner you can't you can't be a you can't lose if you never show up so he thinks he's gonna lose fantasy football he doesn't show up to Christmas Eve never happened that's a winner hey boys when my husband works out at night he changes into compression shorts afterwards he always puts back on the underwear he was wearing before he worked out I told him this is gross and

then he shouldn't put underwear back on after he takes it off I even bought him more underwear wait no is this gross or am I a crazy wife thanks love you you're crazy crazy crazy crazy wife alert he's wearing different underwear when he's working yeah but the the big question is after he works out does he shower and then he puts back on the original underwear or does he get sweaty and put back on the first I wear underwear all day and you take it off like it's gotta be off I think if it's same day you can put it back no if you go to the gym work you you put your compressions on workout shower then put on your same underpants that is totally fine I agree I think that's fine that's what everyone in high school at home you should have enough

underwear that you can change agreed yeah so I think we're all on the same page that it sounds like he's going to the gym though what Billy just said and that you just put your underwear back underwear isn't dirty until you work out in it I disagree I know there are two things that is laundry you haven't eaten enough in your life there are two things that I think my rule of thumb is if you if you work out if you work out in your underwear it's dirty change it if you fall asleep in your underwear and then wake up then it's dirty if you take like multiple shits that day it's definitely it's a underwear has a 24 hour cycle one day one night if you choose to wear underwear at night but to this woman's point you can always buy more underwear like there you feel like a king

when you have an overflowing underwear drawer I think it's like especially if it's a night you work out shower you should put on new underwear but then that underwear is ruined then what would you do you fall asleep in that underwear and then the next morning you have to put those in the dirty clothes that's true I'll be honest there are some Saturdays that I don't shower that I'm just wearing what I wore like I'll be just I don't really change that stuff up I think if you if you shower before you go to bed and you put on new underwear before you go to bed you can wear those that underwear the next morning yeah you can't but a 24 hour cycle yeah 24 hours like a guy's never had a wet dream I don't like to do that I don't like the active

waking up and the underwear that I'm wearing is what I'm stuck with all day it's such I like to change into something get a spark going it's such bullshit that you stop having wet dreams when you're like 13 because those like it's better than virtual reality yeah I think if you didn't jerk off you'd probably have more I think I want to happen because kids don't jerk like they're just yeah yeah yeah but I want I want one I had won I had won when I was a youth and then nothing yeah it's like it's like it was awesome it's I had you could fuck the hottest chicks I had a one night stand with with my brain and then my brain just left like that is just bullshit like whatever whoever can change that change it Elon a wet dream pill neural link better than virtual reality there's

got to be some of that he's working on with that yeah just what if you just had a cum button have it kind of cool that would be sick yeah it's like a cough button yeah video broadcast yeah our last one hey boys my boyfriend is obsessed with the direction the toilet paper roll goes is it just him or is this the guy thing my boyfriend and I've been dating for over two years and the only time we fight is when I put the toilet roll on the wrong way the wrong way being where the paper goes behind the roll instead of front in my opinion if you want the roll to go on a certain way then you should put a new roll on when it's empty instead of leaving it oh yeah wait no he can't complain that I'm gonna have to replace every roll in the house oh I'm gonna replace every

roll in the house I get to decide which direction at this point I've just started leaving the empty roll in the hook and place a new roll on top sideways so that there can't be a wrong way so I read it why are y'all so obsessed with the toilet paper roll direction I don't think that it's just guys that are obsessed I think a lot of girls are going to weigh in on this too I'm 100% not obsessed it doesn't matter to me at all but people care about this a lot there's a lot of people that like have ongoing debates but here's the problem I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill here but the fact that he cares this much and he doesn't change the the toilet paper that means that I think he's using the toilet he hates your guts he wants to get a divorce

and he's using the toilet boyfriend he wants to break up he's using the toilet paper as a conduit for a fight so you guys got to go to couples therapy because it's not the toilet paper I don't think so because again if you're obsessed with the toilet paper you would change it yourself yeah right mm-hmm that doesn't make any sense yeah you got you got big issues you got to figure out with this guy I'm gonna when I get my new house I'm gonna have such a flex in the bathroom I'm gonna have two toilet paper holders one going over one going under oh you know whatever you want to do it's up to you you know it'd be an awesome flex is if in your house there's like a you know a bathroom in on the first floor that like all the guests use and just use like airport toilet paper yeah just

make it really shitty industrial size you just never have to change it be like sorry that's what you get I'm thinking of segregating my bathrooms by number one and number two oh a urinal I've always wanted you know yeah just get a urinal downstairs like a court would that be like a quarter bathroom yeah just a nice little urinal on the wall have a troth I just want a troth in like next to my kitchen yeah in the man cave though well that's called a sink yeah I do that all the time yeah I'd get a troth in the man cave would be that'd be ultimate I would say I'm still probably two times a week I piss in my sink which sink uh kitchen what that's what I finished doing the dishes late at night I actually think that this is I just run the I think I don't believe that you

actually do I do I know he does see me do it if you see little cat well in the sink are you going to be like you can't do that or are you like he's he's don't do it if your mom's around no I'm going to be very very proud of him like father like son what if what if you got a call from the school be like a hole's a hole what's the problem here call me when you get a real problem it's always like like 11 30 at night and it's like I do all the dishes clean up the kitchen it's reward myself it's a reward it's it's whatever I like it do you have to stand on your tippy toes no did you wash it out after yeah it's I run a little bit of soap and it's I mean I'm going in the hole and then I'll just run the water a little bit there's there's gotta be spatter though now

yeah there's a huge hole dude yeah there's spatter a huge hole and there's spatter who cares sterile right yeah peace sterile thank you Billy uh anything else any other questions not set max you got one I actually do have one it's a follow-up yeah this is a follow-up hello big cat pft Henry Billy Jake and Batgirl my boyfriend and I were wondering who has won the lottery ball the most has Hank gotten it yet because surely he must have I think I said that in I don't I don't have that information I think Jake might be tied yeah well actually you know what let's go around the room Jake I think I'm at four okay Billy's at four or five I'm not I think I'm at four or five but that's 69 you said six or seven yeah no but then we checked it it was four

or five I'm at two I'm at two I've had it twice max I have one zero I have zero what you've never gotten this nope all right well let's go now let's do it 26 numbers 26 can I have a number Hank no please no please I'm asking you nicely two okay two 17 18 20 what is it 26 26 I can see in Hank's eye he thinks this is actually that's not the time Hank he thinks it's it's so great every time you want to leave the studio first thank you again you don't have to stick around watch this again Sebastian is still with 82 72 damn you're so bad I'll just do this one just this doesn't count I just want to see doesn't count doesn't kind of count no does not count what would you do is not what would you

pick if you were gonna pick the oh 62 reverse 75 that means this one has to be 52 fuck yeah we got out may you count all right pick 52 doesn't count because there's already two balls out pick 52 though seven like that that that extra hurts right when it's like three the odds are decreased and you're still not even close no I would have not be happy if I caught love you guys sir first time of human civilization is a healed femur bone ah Take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it, home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home, take it home,