Pardon My Take - Stanford Steve, Coach Tom Crean, QB Carousel & Guys on Chicks

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

The NFL QB carousel hasn’t stopped and we talk about recent moves and who’s left out. (00:02:32-00:12:33) Billy updates us on the spreadsheet.(00:12:34-00:23:23) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Urban Meyer’s monthly article.(00:24:29-00:42:41:10) Stanford Steve joins the show to talk Sweet 16, picks, and wings in New Orleans. (00:44:13-01:16:57) Coach Tom Crean joins to talk about what’s next for him, what it takes to win in the tournament, and which coach is mostly likely to bust out the vampire bats. (01:18:12-01:45:51) We finish with guys on chicks (01:47:14-01:58:35)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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today is Wednesday March 23rd and the QB carousel will not stop, no we don't know about Baker yet, so recording this at 3.23 in the afternoon on Tuesday, don't know if Baker's going anywhere but Matt Ryan got shipped from Atlanta to Indianapolis for a third round pick, which I actually like to move, I think Matt Ryan and I know Colts fans are now in this you know purgatory where they keep trying a different quarterback every year and I think the last four years have been Jacobi Berset, Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan, I still think they have a good enough team that like Philip Rivers remember that team they were very close to beating the bills in that first round playoff game, getting into the playoffs is the name of the game, well they're rolling the dice,

they should have made the playoffs this year, but their defense let them down in that last game at Jacksonville, correct but it's I like the move, I don't know, I know Matt Ryan gets shit on, I think he's an above average quarterback, he probably doesn't have many years left, it's great that they have a decent offensive line, because as we I think you were the first person that I heard say that he's the most sackable quarterback, his body just takes absorbed sacks, Kirk Cousins I would also add to that list though because he just he has a way of kind of turtling in about himself, yes anytime there's a pass rusher five yards away from or closer, but Matt Ryan I think he's actually I think he's a very good quarterback for the team that they've built in

Indianapolis and he's the most Indiana looking person maybe ever, yes it's perfect like you created a video game character and you stopped halfway through because you didn't really care how much detail you wanted to put on his face, he is he's perfect for Indiana, he's perfect for that team, I also think that a small part of this is the end of 28 three jokes now they'll always live on but I saw CBS Sports had a post that tried it was the moment where I was like okay this might be over the Colts traded the third round pick and it's the 82nd pick in the draft and they're like three, eight, two and then rearranged it 28 to three it's like all right that's it's over, numerology what should bring math into it, you can't do that, you can't do multiplication, division, you can't

rearrange and if something lines up 28 to three I will see on it and I will 10% chance if it's a tweet I will click like on it, right if it was the 28th pick in the third round maybe that makes sense but to say the 82nd pick overall and then doing that so that and Matt Ryan leaving that's kind of the end of that era of Falcons, but I do like how even he was connected to go out to San Francisco played with Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta that's when he won his MVP and I just I liked imagining him for the 49ers that was fun for a little bit but I do think that with what he does and what he does well it's a good fit for the Colts it's unfortunately always going to be from now on like this is this trade is going to be compared to Carson Wentz and that's just how it's going

to look like one third rounder to two third round picks and I'm gonna have to be prepared to steal myself against that that's age that's age I also want to throw this out there and I'm wondering what you think the to be a quarterback never a better time to be a quarterback if you're an elite quarterback kind of a shitty time to be a quarterback if you're a yeah but guy because you mentioned Baker Mayfield I think he might go to Seattle but the seats are slowly filling up where like Baker Mayfield where does he go does Jordan Love ever get a starting shot like Jimmy G if he doesn't leave what happens to Trey Lance so it's awesome for Deshaun Watson who gets was it 230 million guaranteed or Lamar Jackson who's coming up soon or Russell Wilson when his

contract's up soon but like that that second third fourth tier of guys it feels like they basically get a couple shots and then it's like all right we're moving on this realignment to me also feels like when uh when the west for the first time in a long time got really good in the NBA yeah you know like what was that 15 years ago whenever that was 20 years ago when the west just became the dominant uh side of the NBA this is like the AFC just continues to stack up quarterbacks I if I were an NFL player I would want to play in the NFC right now if I'm a quarterback it's like send me to the NFC I've got Aaron Rodgers who's got you know probably a couple more years and then he's done Tom Brady who knows how long he'll be around before he goes to Las Vegas into

the NFC but as far as the NFC goes it's like wide open it's wide yeah the there was a moment in time yesterday this was before James re-signed with the Saints which we're very excited for and Marcus Marriota signed with the Falcons but the quarterbacks in Tom Brady's division were Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Taysum Hill yeah like that's why he came back it's not a it's not a it's not there's no mystery behind the fact that Tom Brady looked around the landscape was like oh we're guaranteed to go to the playoffs yeah no matter what I'm very glad to see James back with the Saints it was gonna be great it's gonna be awesome I want a full season of James down there and a full season of offseason training videos which is already way ahead of schedule right now I don't

know if you've seen him moving around on his leg yeah he had like one drill where I'm pretty sure his trainer was doing something like throwing golf clubs at him while he was trying to throw a wiffle ball through Hulu he was awesome he was the one in where he was in like a huge parachute inflated trying to run on a treadmill but it the I went hard knocks James Winston yeah yes just James the question though so like Lamar again he's gonna get his money he deserves his money Russell Wilson will get his money he deserves his money but like Kyler Murray I don't know because Kyler Murray feels right now in that very close but not there guy do you give him all that money and would Kyler Murray like some team is going to give him some money right he's probably

going to be a team that's in a very tough position quarterback wise that is just going to take an absolute shot at him if the Cardinals end up not resigning him and not extending him and then I don't think that he's got it he doesn't strike me as a backup quarterback like an extended career backup no I agree and that's the part where it's great to be an elite quarterback and that's not really saying anything new but I do think those those next guys like Baker Mayfield he's he's going to get another shot started but it won't be that long of a shot you know what I mean it's not going to be so no one's going to probably trade for him and be like he's our franchise quarterback guaranteed he's got to kind of prove it again which is weird to think what about the

Panthers the Panthers seem like they're the ones that are like they're hosting an open house well and every house on the street is closing and they're just not getting anybody involved at all Matt rule there's pictures of Matt rule giving Kenny pick at the eyes well they're the eyes there was also their GM Scott Fitterer who called pick it over when he was doing his pro day so he could look at his hands yep and then Ben Macadoo is their offense coordinator and quarterback coach and Ben Macadoo was like here hold this football for me and then in the video he's just staring at Kenny pick at holding the football and just nodding his head like yeah oh that'll do it yeah his hands grew by an eighth of an inch it did yeah he's a grower not a shower we love Kenny

we're big Kenny podcast um anything else from the NFL free agency it's been I feel like I just came up from air from March Madness I was I slept like 11 hours on Monday night and I still am tired yeah um I went to bed super early last night so on uh Sunday night after we did the show I went back to my hotel room and I couldn't get in on Saturday night my my door lock was broken to my room went back on uh Sunday night tried to get in again my door lock was broken a second time they they had to send security up to uninstall and reinstall my door lock so I just sat down in the lobby for about an hour hour and a half waiting for them to do that so I'm basically on E what's up Hank I'm very much on that's horrible yeah oh yeah it was bad it was it was uh quite and then basically

like I had to just tell I couldn't be there was nobody there for me to take my frustration out in real time because the security guard was trying to help me and it's not his fault the doors locked right everybody was trying to help me and I couldn't there was nobody for me to scream at I need somebody Billy should have been there Billy should have been there you well yet st. Patrick's day for five days yeah Billy are we down from the st. Patrick's day high from your white history month excursion yeah it's over finally it finally a holiday for you needed it how much how much Irish are you around like over half oh no over half that sounds like over half exactly 50% yeah 65 oh 65 damn it's not even a fraction yeah Billy what does the Matt Ryan trade to Indianapolis

due for Sam Elendor stock he needs some guidance in his first real starting season so he'll just be a veteran who helps Sam really get it going oh okay so Matt Ryan won't even start yeah there there's no they're giving I think they're giving Sam the Aaron Rogers treatment yeah he just needs to sit for four years then he gets in and he'll take over the league exactly yeah it's a scary time if you if you need a quarterback and you're like you're you're a franchise basically telling yourself you're a old quarterback away from being a Super Bowl team that's what the formula is now yeah just get an old quarterback and I'm I've been sitting on the sidelines watching all this happen being like I think I think Justin Fields is my guy what do you think I think he gets his first full off

season right in this new system yes but I there's that there's a whole group of fan bases the Jets with Zach Wilson the Jags with Trevor Lawrence like we're just sitting there and saying yeah you know no we're good yeah I think we're good we're fine we don't need this so and maybe we do in two years we'll be right back into it um anything else Jake the uh like any big picture tournament things that have come to you since since Sunday night um not necessarily there was a cool uh thread about Saint Peter's and just how insane their run give it to us right now like cool threads yeah this is about the the facilities yeah yeah give it to us preposterous yeah just insane having uh some internet issues uh okay got it it's yeah this fucking Pete scumbag it's the

Russians yeah that's what he said yeah that's what he told me it's Saint Petersburg yeah yeah so this is uh from Ryan Patrick Warner I think he used to be on staff there uh staff for two years players could not blast music during team lifts because the weight room bordered on classes going on not physical education classes the weight rooms while literally bordered where philosophy 101 was taught holy shit awesome uh they should actually philosophy 101 any philosophy class should also have like a workout facility yeah inside of it yeah the year after he left they were supposed to play an espia new game against Manhattan packed with students notice boom lift on court during warm-ups and people mopping game was canceled due to leaking roof oh fuck okay uh the press conferences

were held in a yoga slash spin studio downstairs there was a pool in Yanatelle which is the name of their facility I believe that sp you would rent to any paying customer a visiting coach walking downstairs post game would regularly encounter screaming kids and squib swim gear and random people in towers towels post holy shit so yeah like so Saturday afternoon February they're playing a game at noon and they come down and there's just kids with pool noodles this actually sounds a lot like the Bengals facility right now this is and the bangles made the Super Bowl yeah like yeah you're a cheap franchise you're the you're the cheap skates let's go the offices routinely flooded because they're at top of the facility a photo of the flooding in the offices okay it's

crazy uh Loyola was supposed to come one year there was no hot water in the building players departed to the facility post game to board the flight home to Chicago with long faces and no showers okay that sucks yeah that's yeah very stinky flight brutal uh kineshi's came once they arrived that and to find out the corridor outside the locker rooms flooded due to a burst pipe really have some water issues there don't they yeah okay and then from Iona my second year at Iona from someone during warm-ups at St. Peter someone took a jumper hit hit the rim and the rim just fell off the basket 40 minute delay haunted house had to get a new basket this team is in the sweet 16 Kentucky and is in the same region as North Carolina UCLA and Purdue that's so funny like

how embarrassing is that for the person that bricked the shot so hard that they broke the basket yeah retire yeah I think you gotta quit there's I wish that there was video out there that because I would have so many good things to tweet at Russell Westbrook oh man that would he would he would have cost you yeah I bet you I bet you Russell Westbrook could break a basket with a missed shot yes absolutely well he doesn't usually hit the the actual rim right he would shatter it yeah yeah um all right and then before we get to hot seat cool throw and Billy your spreadsheet update from March Madness all right so the spreadsheet has done a little better than I thought it would so we're in a good position already okay what does that mean it means how

much is it lost money this feels like Billy's trying to sugar us sugar us up well you didn't give us the project projection of what you thought it would be like so now you can just be like in retrospect I thought I was going to lose 90% of my money I only lost 89 I'm up big well basically before the tournament started we put a thousand dollars into the original strategy okay so then we saved some of that other money for adjustments St. Patrick's Day five days of St. Patrick's Day that that's part of the process that's part of the process yeah so we made four new future bets for this next to this new scenario to adjust it so we put on all the original ones and then we added 200 on the Kansas future 150 on a Houston future 100 on a UCLA future and 100 on a Purdue

future okay so we have 500 left okay that we can use for anything so with all the bets currently placed here the outcomes what happens if St. Peter's wins that's a bad outcome okay all right so that would mean that we lost everything we lost 1300 of the 2000 okay but not all of it not all of it go ahead um so if Gonzaga wins that's going to be down a thousand what wait so if the most likely outcome happens we've lost half the money right but in the future in the future we mitigate for it by putting the 500 that's like the emergency parlay that was the emergency parlay on Gonzaga like if if like basically we're still far away but Gonzaga's favorite right but like they could lose they could I like how Billy yeah absolutely mark few

if one of his dogs gets a hold of the game plan so here's a here's basically here's who are rooting for Providence, Kansas, Michigan, Houston, Purdue, UCLA, North Carolina so not the most we can make not the overall number of those teams yeah are all in the same reach right and also not the overall number one in two seats right Arizona and Gonzaga but Jake that also means if they're on the same region means that one of them is going to make the final four true it's fair it's fair true I think this is going to be like we I think Billy actually is actually now that I'm thinking about it Billy has guaranteed the impossible to happen Gonzaga is going to win a national title Philadelphia yeah yeah like Gonzaga the only way Gonzaga was ever going to win a national title

was Billy was going to set up an entire betting strategy based on them not winning the national title Billy Billy trying to execute this is like you if you took uh both Lenny and George from of mice and men and rolled them into one character like the planning of one of them and then the execution of the big Lumix uh-huh that's insulting yeah I read that book no uh uh no so basically there might be a situation where if like like there could be a positive unless these three teams win then we put a parlay on those three teams if to win it might end up even how are you going to parlay though again Gonzaga being a huge favorite right but I'll just incorporate that with other teams that we don't want to win like for example let's say we're in a situation where either

st p if st peters has to play in and we don't want them to win we parlay st peter's winning with Gonzaga winning but then st peter's loses and Gonzaga wins right then you lose but then but the person who beats st peters who we have a positive outcome might win and then they go on right but I it feels like we're doing a trap all the way along to Gonzaga winning it all yeah so basically we really need Gonzaga to lose okay so what's funny about Billy's proprietary system is that the outcome of it is exactly the same as everybody else during March Madness which is bet a lot lose a lot and then save up some money for a last second big shot parlay to try to make your way back to even I think we're going to end up having Gonzaga minus the points in the

title game and they're not going to cover and they're going to win that's probably it really the worst situation in this is if Gonzaga goes like all the way to the championship the best team in the country yeah okay again is yeah all right I have a question Billy yes what is the outcome where we get the richest and what is that number that we get uh michigan we get five dollars each is 1600 wait so that would that'd be 3600 or yeah 3600 if michigan wins if providence wins were 3100 concluding the 2k good um kansas kansas wins were you know up 300 okay 2300 and then if houston wins uh 900 2800 including what we had before so there are outcomes that are very feasible where we might walk away from this be like okay this this whole thing was just like minus 110 on one

game but right that's the part that I always struggle with is like I don't know what I'm rooting for except for Gonzaga to lose yeah but for example like Gonzaga could get eliminated a lot of the negative outcomes get eliminated by other negative outcomes okay so wait if it's a double if our two worst nightmares come true at the same time it's actually good yeah okay if it's if it's Gonzaga and Arizona in the final we lose everything uh yeah is there is there a way that we would actually lose everything yeah we're talking about no no there's no situation we get some like five dollar money lines in no situation do we lose all of the two thousand dollars that was the strategy what's the worst what's the worst about we've made 700 already right uh or one seven hundred

invested it what's the worst the worst is uh we have 700 in the end so we lost 1300 why wouldn't we put 700 on Gonzaga yes so then what we do is we we could well the things like I use that 700 dollars but we don't have to right now okay all right listen I'm not gonna I'm gonna trust the system like it would just take away future possible winnings and like let's say Gonzaga were to lose this weekend then we'd readjust yeah I would next readjustment would be elite a maybe halfway through the elite eight okay so we see what we're doing yeah so it'll be fun I mean this is fun this is way too hard work why this this isn't fun when you could have just bet one game yeah but it was a good exercise no but we don't know yet it might be a sound investment technique did

you have a game that you loved I didn't like any of it okay I'm sure you probably watched no when St. Peter's when St. Peter's won that was awesome yeah and you loved the money line against well I had five dollars on them so we had 60 dollars which paid for Kentucky's future that's how it's really working that's beautiful boom all right genius um okay uh check out Berserker sheets on Twitter um that's the guy that's doing all the work for me no no he like just puts it all together I told him what to do like no he we got a good system yeah like looks over you just need someone to look over it right yeah like be like is there any glaring mistakes he's like yeah this doesn't make sense your math yeah and then he also puts together his graphics and tweets them

all out for you after you tell him exactly precisely what to do just shout out him I don't know who he is he won't tell me who he is I think he's like what if it's like yeah it's fucking Elon Musk could be awl all right let's do uh hot seat cool throne hot seat cool throne's brought to you by our friends at cores light the chaos of the big tournament can be unpredictable to say the least and even the best players take a moment to cool off from the bench when you need a breather maybe it's watching too many games or you got action on everything or you're invested in the spreadsheet you take a seat with a refreshing cores light the beer that's literally made to chill people wait all year for this and in turn it's perfect excuse to do nothing but chill and watch games

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you need that time out delicious cores lights okay henry on re glory uh my hot seat is carl crawford oh that's not a name we've heard in a long time exactly so i've been kind of falling the situation just uh like from the rap perspective megan the stallion tails oldest time signed a bad record deal blew the fuck up and is now upset with her you know the record company is trying to get out of it is now publicly tweeting being and and this is how i found out she tweeted carl talking about the owner of the record label which turned out to be carl crawford carl i don't want me signed to your pill popping ass you talking about aim paid for a show when you sound slow on the artist i don't pay you directly maybe fight with the man you signed it

and you might see some money you fucking powderhead uh she's she's been going off she like did an album and then carl craw it sounds like carl crawford's in the wrong they're trying to say that because on her album she did a lot of like interludes and talking yeah so they said that there was only like 26 minutes of actual music and so that doesn't qualify as an album and so she has to make another album before she can be done with her record deal uh so that that part of it is like you've heard that story a million times bring back rap rap skits i used to love those right well like ludicrous would have an entire song about him trying to take a shit that's basically what it's like she was doing but it's carl crawford is the owner of the record company that's what the

mind blowing part is that is very mind blowing yeah and he's a powderhead he's a powder pair according to according to uh megan the stallion pill popping he made 125 mil in his career but apparently he's you know trying to make more off off me well it sounds like he made more off of her right yeah i mean definitely yeah he's got a good eye for talent clearly so what are yeah the rules are like it has to be 26 minutes worth of songs or more that's just what it seems like it seems like they are going off of technicality like they're just trying to squeeze as much out of her as they can couldn't she just make a really shitty album just like sit down have like a basic drum beat going then just say whatever comes to the top of her head and then boom that's a song all right new album's out

right now check it out it sucks but i want to get out of this deal i think that's what the carl crawford's uh record company is trying to say she did but saying like arguing that that's not does not justifiable enough i mean when you think about carl crawford's contracts the mlb guy knows how to negotiate you'll pay a lot of money for not being not that good of a place i was actually looking up i was on on the sport track looking up how much he made he made 145 but aren't they have like uh they it has the season and has the awards he had one season of awards yeah he did 2010 he was a gold glove silver slugger and that's it and then he got the huge contract with the red socks and a huge contract with the dodgers holy shit 179 mill 179 149 i think we're we gotta be on

mrs the stallion side on this oh yeah yeah i mean it was just one of those i think coli was the one that that brought it to my attention but it was like i because i had been i had been seeing this like dispute kind of just on like the the rap like world star hip-hop accounts and stuff that i follow just knowing megan the stallion's got a contract dispute and then last night i was like it's with carl crawford damn that's crazy free the stallion damn uh and then my cool throne are deadbeat dads nice why are you looking at me more no i'm not play cats in the cradle more even more damn it more he got canceled oh yeah that's uh what do you say this show got taken out there oh oh yeah og cancelling i love i love that morrie just made an entire career off of people getting so pissed off at

each other that they wanted to embarrass each other on television yeah great show what a great we were on it we were on it what a simple concept to have be like hey they don't know if if this guy's the actual dad okay let's put him on national television and then reveal it we should actually we need to take over that concept maybe not us personally but somebody here at this company should just become the paternity show that him getting canceled is i mean i didn't know he was still going great credit to him yeah it's a formula it's like people love watching forensic files and people love watching the morrie povich show it's it's every episode is the same yeah and guess what people are gonna tune in it's it's pretty much kids get sick and stay home from

school and parents there are like people out there who either retired or not working and morrie is that void right this is right morrie you know what i want to do this would be an interesting that's just be an interesting idea for a show new if you if you uh followed up with all the families and then interviewed the children that were revealed on the paternity test and see how their lives turned out yeah i'm sure that would be open to get it all not great yeah all right it could be good speaking of depressing and made me feel very old i tweeted out the clip and i got a lot of people being like where is this from oh yeah five years ago even yeah but like i always i always just assume like things we've done as part of my take like everyone follows but it's like we haven't

done in a long time i'm morrie um all right pft your hot seat cool term great job hank good job hank thanks my hot being back in studio with you love being i love being with you guys wherever we are can't wait for thursday night me me neither coach k came the year no boo scared no i'm scared of the rest i think the rest are gonna fucking throw this for for texas for duke got it absolutely think that's what's gonna happen my hot seat is donald trump a t-man because t-man uh there's a new real estate king of the deals in town me you remember on firefest yeah two weeks ago my landlord tried to jack up my rent 1500 on me yeah i emptied the clip on him my power shifted on him i'm basically on shark tank i talked him down he's only raising the rent 1400 dollars nice that's big sign that's

huge 1200 bucks a year my my uh spreadsheet that i created for myself is likely more profitable than billy's yes i just earned all you need was something we got that you just need something i actually came back to when i asked him if i could get uh i offered i think like how about you just increase 500 a month so i asked for only a 33 percent uh or 33 of what he was trying to get out of me and then he just came back to me he goes my last and final offer is going to be an increase of 1400 dollars you can take it i was like done beautiful sign me up you got something that bitch i fucking cucked the shit out of him this negotiation he's missing out on a lot of money 1200 bucks i what do you think i should spend it i'm gonna spend it all in one place for sure

oh i think you have to know you have to reinvest it in the spreadsheet really spreadsheet yeah and cash and fusion into the spreadsheet maybe a season long mlb spreadsheet well it might yeah actually actually that's not a bad idea because it wins losses i do have to i do have to figure out what the team's going to be that i bet against every single game this year like i did with the pirates last year the reds made money it could be the reds well i actually let me just say it right now shouldn't be the reds because the reds around my cool throne because they're if you look at their salary this year they have a hall of famer as their sixth highest played player who's that ken griffey jr so yeah the reds are my that's right you can anytime you get a guy who's been in

the hall of fame and retired for like 15 years yep as your sixth highest player player he's getting paid uh like four million dollars till 20 uh 24 that's incredible good good for cage k g j k g also they're bringing we always called them that they're probably bringing back uh tom brenner or tom brennerman is probably going to get a gig i don't know if you saw that he's been doing like some interviews he's spent the last like a year and a half rehabbing himself and just uh he's been going to like a lot of uh meetings of local lgbt just like organizations and just sitting and listening to what they have to say and going to the gayest towns in america yeah he's yeah he's not saying anything derogatory well there yeah just like he's got himself hooked up to like an electric

shock collar yeah and every time he wants to say it from key west to san francisco tom brennerman has has not said anything offensive it would be great if he just urban meyer oh yeah oh yeah uh i just remembered we forgot to talk about he doesn't know who erin donnell was although i that was that was bullshit it was both i think he was probably like joking about i didn't say that why oh okay that's billies okay let's get billy you didn't say it all right no no it's fine no no we're talking about i gotta do a cool throw we're talking about later uh my cool throw was gonna be can you pick its hands but also shabby silverado's because one drove through a tornado this morning which is badass so badass that guy was where do you think that guy was on his way to where there's

a tornado on the road he was just like fucking yeah probably probably yeah probably had a date shut up buddha ben he doesn't want to call his he called his mom on me that's another early pmt thing that people probably don't remember try to chase a tornado and he literally threatened to call his mother on me um my my hot seat is uh fans because yusef nerkitsch threw a fan's phone it came out now i don't know who to believe here it's it was said that the fan said something about his mother and his grandmother his grandmother passed away from covid in 2020 um but it just reminds everyone that if we just had my rule of every single player in every sport gets to pick out one fan a year and beat the ever living shit out of them sports would be more fun

it would there's been a recent pandemic of of players confronting fans right we're dancing around it yeah yeah let's do it there needs so it's like building up it's like the lead up to world war one right now it feels like it's a powder keg on the court and something's going to happen to kind of break it wide open so that they can do something to fix it yeah and i think you're right i think if one once a year if one fan gets the shit kicked out of him i think this all stops yes yes uh all right billy go ahead your hot seat uh my first hot seat is whorey masvidal he jumped his former opponent colby covington while he was at a steakhouse in miami uh he you know that's just pretty crazy for fighters to actually just go hunt each other down i like that after the fight

there should be a hunting league where it's just like 12 guys sign up for it and they just hunt each other on site everywhere movie tack yeah but it's like coast to coast yeah but you just you don't know who is looking for you you just know who you who your target is and there's cameras falling you that's a million dollar idea right there right off the top in my other hot seat is urban mire yes urban mire well i i mean it's just every couple months urban mire has a story that we all get to make urban mire jokes i love it it's just getting worse and worse and worse you could the erin donald thing was bullshit i think he was probably like who's this 99 guy how'd he stop him right like probably knew who erin donald was after doing well maybe the funniest

part was he said that he did a six month deep dive on the nfl that sounds like harathy him yeah he might be caught through you had to just hung out and watch like tapes of red zone yeah they got pro football focus logins and didn't never logged in yeah so uh he's just basically being a dickhead to everybody the other two guys that they said it's like one of these things is not like the others they said urban mire didn't even know who erin donald debo samuel or jamal adams was yes yes jamal adams i think the source on this was probably jamal adams pr team definitely threw that one in there i just urban mire like it's just so funny because we're now getting to a few people still online defending him and i love those people oh yeah they are just incredible like the the the

amount of evidence that urban mire is a complete shithead is overwhelming yet there are a few people who are just i had one guy yesterday who was who was touting all three titles in college football i was like are you a florida and ohio state fan or just an urban mire fan uh one of those guys has a picture of him with urban mire in his profile picture and i know it because every time i say something about bad about urban mire he's like you would say something like this lib yeah it's just a great i get lipped out yeah it's just a great like group of people on the internet who are standing so firm on a guy who like i mean it's pretty much been every two months there's been a story like this guy sucks yeah i i agree with you though i hope those people never

go away yeah i because they have to have somebody otherwise it's it's not fun anymore right but i think a new story is going to come it's going to be like a slow trickle of information because people see how well these articles do everyone loves reading about urban mire being a dickhead it's the best so i hope the stories keep coming out with like new funny little anecdotes there was one guy that replied to it uh that was a former player i forget who it was but a former player of urban's at ohio state and he said when he was at ohio state urban would drive some of the players around sometimes to go to meet and greets and he drove like the biggest asshole of all time they would get in his outie and he would never stop at stop signs he would blow through red lights like

didn't even come close to stopping and just speeding all around town to the point where his players were like hey coach why are you driving like this and he goes well because when i get pulled over the interaction usually goes something like this oh wow it's you coach urban mire great season last year yeah thank you all right have a great day and then he drove away so he was like bragging to people how he was literally above the law yes uh i just i love what a villain he is yeah he's he he's he's a power hungry guy who has lost all his power so watching it like fall on itself is very very fun i really think that the worst punishment that they could have had for him is not firing him but just making him continue to coach and lose yeah on the jaguars and that's why

he would go through those like i think those uh the the mental issues and like the the fake sicknesses that he would have brain cramps would just be because his entire ego is built around him being successful and beating people that when there's even just like a small crack in that foundation of him starting to think maybe you're not as big a winner as you've been saying to yourself in the mirror for the last 20 years he just crumbles yeah he doesn't know how to process losing his poison for him it really is poison for his body all right billy your cool throne my cool throne is half half Thor Bjornsson uh this is a not a well-known storyline but the mountain from Game of Thrones has had serious beef with a guy named eddie hall who's another fellow strong man is that the guy

who did the crazy deadlift and blood out of his eyes probably probably so sick yeah yeah so those they've guys been beefing for years over the weekend in uh dubai they had a boxing match that was pretty awesome it was the heaviest boxing match of all time they both cut down to fighting weight and fought in half Thor Bjornsson uh half Thor Bjornsson was about 350 pounds so not the heaviest ruff and rowdy has said heavier Vito Torpedo was like 450 he fought someone that was like 500 yeah professional sanctioned fight so what did you fight in pride i actually fought a professional oh okay but but no but the other guys on the but you fought ruff and rowdy the only time i had to do that i thought ruff and rowdy wasn't professional i'm confused now it's amateur

but because jose had to fight professional i had to go professional to fight jose oh you ranked up yeah yeah which it was ridiculous that's why he can't fight with his hands yeah well now he can because it's been over a year right so um that's why i went to st patrick's because he can this is Billy's this is Billy's like divorce moon where you just go out with your friends because you can finally fight after being cooped up for so long no but the craziest part was half Thor Bjornsson cut down from over 400 pounds and like at his lightest and he's pretty jacked right now he's 350 all muscle so it's just who won hot half Thor Bjornsson the mountain yeah but eddie hall is just throwing haymakers it's actually pretty it's a terrible boxing fight to watch if you like

good boxing but it was a crazy spectacle and i can't believe those guys were landing punches at like 350 pounds and their faces are just weren't exploding it's pretty insane that is it's nice i'm gonna have to watch it uh it should give me swords next time finish this off and then film it and then put on hbo oh my hot seats the toronto maple leaves they are they have jerseys designed by justin beaver debuting tonight on wednesday night now they're not that bad this season they're tied for third place looking at the standings now but i don't know this is a perfect opportunity for the beaver curse to be born if they start losing i'm gonna like the jesus well can you curse maple leaves they're pretty curse yeah they haven't come come out of the first round

since 2013 start with the beeps but it could be the beaver blessing if they keep winning oh i like that oh i see the jerseys then their then their hashtag's gonna have to be just like i believe i believe weird yeah they're just wearing not their colors okay he looked like stealers jerseys yeah okay and uh my cool throne is al michael's so he got the bag from amazon thursday night football unfortunately this means the end for the best duo allen chris wow but no love for a friend joe buck you really hate joe though i think allen chris oh no i love joe do you well you have to all right i we're on the top of mountain allen chris are about to fall off the mountain and joe buck is on the other side but fall off the mountain you can only save one

joe because he's a friend of the program i don't think you mean that you'll allen chris i mean that's you're gonna have that reaction either way it's kind of crazy because chris is a friend of the program so it's chris you just yeah yeah i'm more of a play by play yeah so who who gets killed i use my strength to grab both oh wow double double sportsmanship what a hero okay so yeah he's gonna be calling thursday night on amazon with kerr kerb street yeah i like it i'm interested i think they'll get along well they seem like if you put those two like if you put them in a mason jar together like they're bugs they'd probably become fast friends yeah herbie can get along with anyone and now is the consummate professional like you said who gets uh oswald the lucky rabbit is he's

still involved in this trade i have no clue that's the that's the cartoon that was traded to uh espn from nbc for al michaels oh when they originally got him from sunday go look up that you'll love that that's a that's a fun little fact um all right so let's get to our interviews good job jake and billy we have stanford steve our good friend stanford steve then we have tom kreen coming after that pft you got a quick word from our sponsor yes before we get to stanford steve want to talk to you about bird dogs i love bird dogs it's almost short season when it's short season it's bird dog season they've got awesome joggers too it's not just shorts anymore for bird dogs they are the most comfortable shorts in the world but guess what they've stepped into the joggers space and they're

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could win the championship how many of those are still alive 16 whoa not bad wait no i'm kidding i did not have st peter's on the list i was happy on because i revised it on march 1st and then uh before that on march 1st i took off that list michigan state indiana marquette ohio state and alabama so we got rid of the good teams that that that could not do it so yeah i every other team besides st peter's was on that list is is alive and and still kicking here it's pretty impressive steve um before we get to more basketball i did want to ask you about your uh your pre-media career because it's something that i don't think that we've talked about on this show at all i was reading your bio today i saw that you were the national

high school player of the year in football he was sick he was recruited no today like you were the number one player in high school football in the entire country class of 96 yep what happened yeah i don't know if we have that long to talk about it we might change positions peeked out uh injuries lack of focus school not a lot of discipline um it uh it a combination of a lot of things but yeah i was a quarterback wide receiver safety in high school and then um i went to stanford as a tight end and the guys were better than me when i got there i never played before and and guys were better than me were you like good enough in high school where people were dropping bags off for you were you getting recruited like no sneaky ways no no um we never got to that point didn't have a couple like

it was it was um it was right at the beginning of like caller id but like the old caller id was like when you had the machine and you could tell it said the city under it so it had the number in the city so like there was these anonymous calls where you could tell it was coaches but they were acting like shady like hey is uh anybody home i'm like what the heck is going it's like uh you know i won't say the college the hometowns of the colleges but it was it was pretty funny to hear guys try and start beating around the bush like trying just trying to get any inside information uh but uh it was it was a long time ago yeah um and it's there were no bags there were no bags exchange recruited no today yeah recruited so no today so lou holst would like call you up and be

like oh this is a must be the wrong number wait wait a second is this steve cofflin let me talk to you for a second well lou couldn't get away with it because it because of the voice and the only person i could do lou holst and scott pamp felt so i knew it wasn't lou he had people do that uh but yeah lou i mean that was actually the year he ended up uh going uh and and leaving um they no name was in a mess i could tell i went to camp there before my senior year and you could just tell the coaching staff was in disarray um and no name was a lot older of a campus than i really wanted to be around so uh that's why i didn't i didn't really like it i mean if you had had your career as Notre Dame steve you'd be the biggest douche bag ever and no one would ever

like it's having Notre Dame steve on i think i think it'd have to be a Notre Dame cofflin yeah just brutal we don't want Notre Dame steve on um no i also i fucked up at the start i should have said okay last year Notre Dame steve came on this show and gave us baler as the winner before the whole entire tournament started so he needs he needs a round of applause for that he was the one who gave us baler so well who's your who was your pick this year i picked Villanova in the bracket and then it took me all of two days to take Ohio State money line against them the other day so the bracket really loses credibility uh in a matter of moments i think i feel like everybody has their moment um you know i heard jake talking on your last one just about how fast uh

you know the bracket was blown up on thursday but when you do have a good bracket then you like it's something to hang on to right yeah it's like yeah but i got them in my bracket all right but what does that mean like how much money can you win on the bracket i'm we want that instant cash you know uh listen i'd love to get into pft's talk i mean just hearing how many live bets you have put in on this tournament i'd love to know the percentage that you have so my live bets are actually hitting at a much higher clip than the bets that i put in ahead of time i'm like locked in now when it comes you're a guy you're going with what you see with your gun yeah now good to go i'm not even counting i mean maybe if i i should probably count these but i'm not counting

the like plus a thousand money line plays that i made you know at night time at the end of the day just trying to find a win from tcu that was i'm taking a flyer on those okay with the ones that i'm doing after like five six minutes i bet a first half over or i bet a second half spread i'm i'm doing okay at those so like i was telling a big cat on on friday after the first two days of the tournament i bet on every single game and usually you know two to three times on every single game and i ended up after the first two days exactly even from where i started and to me that's that is a massive win i essentially got two days of fun for absolutely free yeah it's like playing blackjack for like a you know five hours and you walk away with 50 bucks you're like you

know what that was still awesome oh that's it that's an incredible run yeah i just can't get over the idea in the mindset you guys four straight days with all you knuckleheads together just firing there has to be some point where you're like man i'd really like something but then everybody just talked to me into this one damn i was right you know like it feels like or you just get so drunk you don't remember those times yeah the the the only thing that happens with the um with the live streams there are some group bets but for me it's personally just by the end of the night like saturday and sunday night i looked and i just had like way too big of a bet on the last game like that memphis kezaga over i needed for my nutsack like the arizona tcu i needed for my lungs like

so that that's part of it we responsibly gamble but you you definitely get to a point where it's like oh there's only one game left let's let's fire a nuke at this game and hope it works out so let's talk about this sweet 16 though so yeah i i mean the thursday games are incredible let's start with actually unbelievable yeah incredible games let's start with text tech duke i want to bet on texas tech very badly my problem is and i said this before the tournament this is the game that the refs dictate how texas tech plays defense because we know they're very aggressive and if if duke's gonna get a whistle at any point in the tournament it's this game and that's the thing do you think it's crazy to hold back because of that i can see where you're coming from to me

being a duke fan that i am this game really reminds me of 2009 when villanova finally broke through and beat duke for the first time in 50 years and they did it because they just just crushed them defensively and that's what really worries me for duke in this situation is the use they have and just the ultimate tough guy mentality that texas tech plays with like they are not going to get bullied i see what you're saying with the whistle and i understand a lot of people start watching college basketball for the first time in march and say the refs suck the refs suck in every sport like give me an export where they're good all right maybe hockey because you don't notice them uh but really like texas tech in this situation because of the experience

toughness and i think they could just make make duke crumble uh being with the youth and in an experience you know what it is in college basketball the ref you're right the refs suck everywhere i think they definitely suck in college basketball for two reasons one is a charge call is hard to figure out game to game and two it's actually not on the refs it's on the coaches coaches coaching so scared when a guy gets two fouls like even in the memphis game that i just talked about memphis there's like five minutes left and both of their bigs are on the bench because they have four fouls what are we what are we saving them for like that and you'll see a guy get two fouls i get it you don't want him to get his third but like even wisconsin on against

irish state wall gets his second foul like five minutes in the game doesn't play the rest of the half that makes no sense to me that you like you have to you have to trust your players at some point so i think that part people complain about the rest but it's really the coaches not being able to to figure out how to manage their players better i have a theory that can help all especially the block charge in college basketball next year the refs should just call every block charge a block but don't tell anybody they're doing it and then people will stop trying to take them and then we're good yeah and also an easy fix for college basketball they should add a six foul and if you think like oh because the game is shorter that's fine make the fifth foul be like or make the sixth

foul be automatic you know two shots of the ball or something like that you know what i mean you can add a penalty to it but at least i always go back the the most memorable time when i was like fuck these rules was florida ohio state national championship when joe kimnoa and greg oden both didn't play in the first half because they got two fouls it's like what are we watching this for what are we watching this for that was brutal brutal so right so you're you're on duke in this game or no you're on texas tech no no texas tech okay all right uh the villanova you mentioned villanova you're a national champion michigan's great story juan howard tried to hug that guy to death that kid um i just think villanova like they're the most dependable tournament team year

in and year out where even that ohio state game ohio state gets it close and it's like guess what villanova does they make all their free throws they never ever waver they're so so dependable who do you have in that one i i look at the points with michigan because i do think the size will hurt villanova the problem is how will michigan defend that that five-out offense where villanova just throws every guy outside the three-point line and just throws it around until they get the matchup they want and that guy goes to the hoop obviously they'll try and put tickets in on an island uh you mentioned the free throws we have two things i think that are interesting in this term we have the best free throw shooting team in villanova and then arkansas is a team who has

taken the most and made the most free throw so that's something to keep an eye on when we're talking point spreads because you always like to have those sides but i think the discipline of villanova and knowing that they just like you said they just always end up with the ball and the guys in the right guys hands when you need it most you know they cut it to two and then right down they they get a three-point bucket to go up five right away and take all the momentum out of Ohio state so i i think i have to trust villanova in this situation but with the points you know i think it's around five or so i think i would take michigan because i think it's that gonna be i think it's gonna be that close to the game so michigan just beat uh tennessee if you're a tennessee fan

they you could say that they overachieved to a certain extent during the season this year like they're they were a great team uh during the regular season and obviously during the during the sec tournament are you happy with rick barnes or are you at a point where you're like i can't stand this guy in march i i'm a guy where i don't judge a judge a coach on on his success in march uh i i don't think it's fair i think it's that crazy of a tournament like you know matt painter's still alive plenty has been made about him uh in in his you know tenure as at purdue because of what his teams have not done in march but then i go back and look like i remember in a sweet 16 game like like this he played duke and he lost in that game duke won the national

championship that year a couple years ago think about the virginia game that team could win a national title and a blizzard shot goes off and they lose like that team was that like it had that trajectory going but that's how fast it ends up in march so with rick barnes i know everybody's getting sort of point spread uh and how it what his record is against the point spread but his teams get up they shot 218 i believe from three that's why they lost and that's what that's what has to happen in march you have to avoid those games you have to avoid those games and you have to avoid the games where your opponent makes 15 threes and sometimes you just can't do it you know it's against you but uh what'd you guys say last week 25 and 25 that's his record yeah yeah

even when he had kd and dj augustine didn't do anything like it's it's it's had him for one year you have one year and it was one game and they got they got beat by usc and some boy he's a pretty good i i think it's not so you're you're right i i totally agree like judging on the tournament tournament's so fucking difficult that's why i always say if you have a team in the tournament you win one game celebrate because it's it's hard to do i do think there's something to be said about there's not a knock on rick barnes but other coaches are just built better for in-game adjustments for the tournament setting for the quick turnaround like i look at a guy like mic cronin i think he does an unbelievable job in game oh yeah of making adjustments where there's

some teams who let's roll it out and let's run our system and hope it works and sometimes it won't well the the problem with tennessee uh pft i remember we were talking about this last year when you guys had me on and you were all in on illinois you saw him win the big 10 tournament they were rolling and that's why i always with the bracket and everything i try and avoid those red hot teams and tennessee was one of them everybody was bitching about their seed they should have been at two they should have had duke's line but then when i looked at him like they kind of got a better draw than duke i thought uh i you know the way they were playing and all that so it's just amazing how it always lines up and when it is your team and you had a lack of success in not getting to a

final four in a while yeah i could see it eating that you're very easily the illinois thing's a perfect example too because i i know a lot of illinois fans are saying like brad underwood they have questions now illinois got a draw last year where they played like a top top 10 ken palm team in illinois chicago they got a draw this year where they the five seed in their region is houston which by all metrics is like the fourth best team in the country that's just that's just really shitty luck you know what i mean like that you could you could argue that you know brad underwood could have done a better job but they basically got the worst possible draw two years in a row for their second round matchup totally agree and i just you know you watch them all the time uh big cat

and it's like in illinois they're good was awesome but they're bad was just like how did they lose this game right you know and it just they're just so inconsistent and who was on the floor at what time it was just it was just weird to watch all year and that's why i didn't i didn't like him especially going against houston uh knowing that the men that they have i mean they'll they'll try and suffocate you love houston i know i you have to love because you're a guy who like when it all you're very smart about football and basketball handicapping but when it's all said and done you're the type of guy who likes to go on the court or the field before the game and just like size up some dudes and be like yeah those guys are just bigger and stronger and they want it more

well i just i like the persona of kelvin samson like he brought it up like three times in every interview during the game about how they got screwed because they played the last game thursday night or friday night friday night friday night yeah and then they played the first game sunday like he just kept bringing it up every time and you could tell he told his team like fuck this we're going to win this game like i don't want any excuses let's take this as motivation and go and you know they coburn was done by the 10-minute mark of the second half he it was amazing how hard houston made him work to post up and i just thought it was funny like redgie miller and bonnar on the call and they're like gotta get the ball to coburn here gotta get the ball like

every possession they said get the ball to coburn and the lead is just increasing because houston was making shots on the other end and when they do that their stuff is there as there is i like houston this game too because i feel like uh arizona you know they just got done playing tcu now they're playing houston those are two of the same exact types of teams that are just going to beat the shit out of you for a while so nothing was easy for them against tcu was a really physical game they're exhausted from that and now they have to go up against houston right now i love houston that's the uh that's a late game right yes yeah i love houston that late game i i i i look at houston i'm not sure arizona like arizona first-year head coach awesome success benedict mattharan

is my favorite player in college basketball um i i just i just love everything he brings to the table but the versatility houston has to defend and the and they have multiple bigs that they that you need against arizona i think that's what makes arizona from a matchup standpoint has everything but houston has a lot of versatility where they could switch off the guys arizona makes their living with that high low game you'll see kaloko come out dump it down or believe the other guy and he dubs it down to kaloko who had unbelievable first half against tcu but i think tcu found something in the arizona defense where there was a lack of switching going on uh late in that game he kept seeing them go pick and roll and they were just trying to find the right match

up with it so i'm interested if houston can make shots uh they'll they'll win this game i'm just not sure they can make as many shots to keep up uh with arizona but i would lean houston in this game and uh ginsaga arkansas how many foul shots is true timmy gonna miss for me well here this one like i mean you guys know mus we talked to everybody goes on all the everybody shows like no one no one loves being the underdog more than mus right like you watch him coach against vermont in new mexico state and you could just see the tension like him being a favor he couldn't stand it because you know then you then you factor in the the ugliness of the game and how the other two teams were dictating tempo and it got caught a sort of hazy there like that stuff drains him

and now like this week he's a nine point under all he's probably watched you know his team's probably watching hoosiers he's got every underdog story in the world going like you know everything's pinned up in the locker room uh multiple underdog stories on the flight out uh to san francisco so i look at arkansas is playing a lot looser and free uh in this game as in our in ginsaga is you know you got you saw what memphis you have to make shots against them because they are going to come out and and put the ball in the basket uh i was blown away with nev hard the point guard for for ginsaga to play 40 minutes and then go make four or four free throws in the last 25 seconds that's impressive stuff man and that's why you know to everybody talks about timmy i think it's a huge

game for chet uh because this is you know every you know who has the pros right in the sweet 16 who's got more pros you're gonna hear people tell give me the team with more pros this is a game where chet has to stick out uh because arkansas has multiple bigs that they could put on them and when you watch ginsaga this year when they've had problem against duke against st mary's it's been teams that have multiple bigs to match up with timmy and chet uh just kind of offset it even if it's just scoring on the other end and making them work on the other end so arkansas has that um i just don't know if arkansas can make enough threes uh we know they'll get in transition we know they're gonna go the free throw line but can they make enough threes i i'm not i don't think so to win

the game but i like them to keep it close and cover the spread we need we need a jd no take game you need a jd no take game because he hasn't had it he hasn't had it where's this game being played that game is going to be played in san francisco okay so it's not in buffalo i heard by the way that the gym was cold yeah in buffalo oh and so that's why everybody was missing either that or maybe maybe must bust was just like you know what i'm sick of being favored in a game i'm going to make sure that we win this game but look really pathetic doing it offensively so that way we're definitely gonna be underdogs the next round yeah uh you could just i mean his face during the game and then the release when he's cheering at the crowd after the game is is only what he could

do is as funny as anybody recovered from shoulder surgery faster than eric musselman like he's his hands are just like full range of motion right now he's probably diving in practice yeah he definitely is um loose ball drill all right so friday's not as great of a slate just in terms of names but just give me your best bet on friday because well everything will change you you know you got a bet on thursday and then you know once we get through thursday then you got to readjust uh the famous story is always when when steve when he was out to dinner with us in madison a couple years ago and i stood up from the table from the dinner table to go try to get a bet in for like uh i think it was like it was a third bet on a friday night college football yeah i think it was like fiu

versus someone it was i got fucked with the they returned an onside kick to fuck me and steve just goes you don't have to bet every game and and david i just look him like yeah you do so yeah but you select yeah in a room that you guys were taking care of things and i'm like wow i feel pretty small right now all right so give us your best bet for friday knowing that you don't have to bet every game i'm dying to see how mic cronin takes advantage of north carolina's lack of defense right he's done it like i remember last year in sweet i think it was sweet 16 he gets michigan like michigan looked like the best team in a country uh on that roll and they had vogner and all those guys going and then ucla just diced them up knocked it up and and they advanced

can he get like baycott to come out and and get you know hake's going inside you know he'll have a game plan i just i'm dying to see what it is the problem is is i don't think ucla makes enough threes and carolina when they got it going they're as good as is arizona or gonzaga offensively at least when i watch him i mean manich you know he might be having the best run going of anybody in the tournament and he lost 10 minutes because he threw an elbow uh but shooting wise they're as good as anybody and the problem with ucla is when they miss they're not getting rebound ucla i mean i think i saw they have like over 40 rebounds in five of the last seven games like that's nuts and ucla doesn't have the biggest guys so ucla has to shoot i'd say over 50 52 percent something

like that i'm not sure they can uh so i would take north carolina in that game okay all right and then the last thing we got to talk about new orleans so oh yeah yeah i got a bunch of things we got to get to her yeah so yeah you start i mean we got to do a date we're going to do a man date i think we are going to try to set it up so if anyone in new orleans listening to us right now has their best wings like i'm not talking about your faith i'm saying the wings that will blow you away we need that recommendation and we need it soon because i think the plan is we're going to bring the podcasting equipment to a wing place and we're going to have a wing date with titus and you and me and pft and then we'll podcast after and it will be great but we need the best possible

wing place people can come up and i don't want peanut butter and jelly wings and all that type of stuff i want buffalo wings yes right pft you're with me with that i want buffalo sauce i like i like a little variety from time to time if there's like a dry rub or a smoked barbecue option but for this instance i you're right i'm looking for hot wings hot chicken wings cold beer it's not rocket science the best you got new orleans i know you got the cold beer show me where the wings are i'm very much looking forward to this i've i've been looking forward to this honestly for the last what three years when when was the first wing date when i was doing xc in hong kong it was minnesota minneapolis yeah minneapolis it was yeah and date and steven i went on the date just the two of us

and it was phenomenal it was a great wing place also i think uh last time we're in new orleans i tried to wrestle stanford steve oh that's what i wanted to bring up right here okay start right there we are going back to the new orleans we're seeing the crime was i believe it was like 20 minutes to a half hour before you guys did those award-winning interviews with joe burrow and and coach oh i think it was like a half hour before that uh pft standing in the middle of bourbon street challenging me to a three point stance right in the middle and it was a beautiful thing you didn't want any and we're we're going back there i didn't like your chances and at that state you had gotten away but i had to do things post game you had a way uh more of a head start on me

uh i'll just say that um it was it was quite a crew too i think it was like oh us i think chris long recilo anthony rizzo was with us i think cutler was with us for a little bit too it was a hodgepodge of a crew just blacked out on bourbon you know what it was now that i'm remembering the crew it was the fact that i was literally standing around everyone who was six foot three everyone except for me in that group was six foot three and probably in the 230 to 290 range and so at that point i'm like i got to do something about this so i belong i know i'm gonna punch the biggest guy in the prison yard yeah we'll do it again we'll have a rematch all right yeah so for the wings i'm sure you know with the popularity you guys people are

going to reach out but it like you said bfd it doesn't have to be crazy simple buffalo because i'm a guy when i go out for wings they ask for rancher blue cheese i say more buffalo sauce that's just me i love it extra sauce to dip it i love it i'm so excited for this trip um all right well so how do you think titus is gonna do he's intimidated right now i i think we have to be nurturing with he's like a like a shy dog that you have to invite over by sticking the back of your hand out and letting them smell that and come to you because he's he's intimidated by the fact that he is accepting a wing date right now i think he's gonna do fine i think afterwards he's probably gonna like puke his guts out just out of nerves and wings and be like i'll never do that again

like i hope those guys liked me but uh well yeah it's just weird like because i've been thinking about like he and i are like almost complete opposites right like i just like he's skinny i'm not you know he was he's a good shooter i didn't make i think i made two threes in my high school career um i don't know it's just every every kind of yeah like he likes tofu burgers i like cheese burgers it's it's just it's just i don't know how it's gonna make like it's never really happened before so i it'll be fun to find out it would be i just imagine him like bringing like a note card of like talking points and then going to the bathroom over and over and being like is he doing coke right now no he's just trying to find he's just trying to find

topics that guys like to talk about you know what this is this is like you and you and mark titus together are like i love you man you're teaching him how to become a bro okay pulling him out of his pulling him out of that that uh clean cut shell a little bit yeah it'll be fun i think i think wings are the great equalizer we'll uh we'll have a good session afterwards we'll be dealing with it'll be maybe the most heartburn in any single podcast afterwards yes yeah we should uh tom should probably sponsor it um speaking of wings i don't think your producer should be invited for his performance of the last time we had oh our our intern billy yes yeah oh no hank oh hank just popped in do you think hank should be invited

yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah you love yeah you steven hank get along very well billy's not invited so that's good billy's not a producer yeah in any sense of the word he doesn't he doesn't even produce work yeah uh but you know that produces excuses yeah so it's a producer of excuses so steve was so upset at billy uh when we went on the road to the super bowl and we tried the 72 ounce challenge we went to that emerald steakhouse when steve saw billy's performance he was fucking disgusted with it like just ashamed that billy was that that steve had to call himself the same species as billy remember it started too with the hot wings in yeah on the grid week yeah when he was sitting with us and he watched it firsthand and was like is this guy serious all this hype and he gets one wing

down do you have any recommendations for billy as how he can improve his eating yeah i'd like to see him just i just want to see how many mcdonald's cheeseburger she can eat in an hour whoa billy what do you think um i think i could definitely get over one an hour double digits would probably be the over under 10 10 yeah oh you've got to eat more than 10 he's already does i'm trying to what no let's flip it back steve you eat two at a time you eat two at a time at for every 15 minute come on i'm trying to think of the sizing of the average cheeseburger so you should get a double steve tell us you give us the number that would get you to respect billy again he's thinking uh 14 okay so there it is if he eats 14 cheeseburgers in an hour from mcdonald's

you have never seen steve's really just seen me at my worst so like when i can't when would you like to see i need to just i think i might have to take that one on what what instance uh do you think that steve should see you in to make him impressed with you that's a very good question it's a very very good question when i'm in my element yeah when you go unlike the last several times actually billy if you can do 14 we should do a video billy attempts another food challenge trying to earn or not even a competitive eater it's just like i put myself in these situations yeah you can't you can't be a competitive eater when you're going to eat for all you can eat steak and i see you drinking steins of beer before like you can't that's not gonna add up and you saw how

that it didn't uh you know as a competitor not a competitive eater uh i would have known that the the carbon monoxide carbon dioxide yeah build up in your stomach really is not conducive you get really scientific with it when yeah when your response should just be like yeah i shouldn't have gotten loaded at 9 30 in the morning before i tried to eat a steak yeah yeah maybe don't do that but if i finished it it would have been sick it would have been it would have been legendary a lot of people have finished it just straight up no beer yes billy that's the point if you had finished it it would have been better than you know there's so many youtube videos of people just finishing it with no beer and like water it's great too that we're now just totally dismissing the part

the wing thing was the worst well that you did one wing you didn't even do one yes yeah i think i was set up i think there's gasoline in those yeah yeah um all right well steve we're looking forward to new orleans we appreciate you coming on oh wait one last thing st peter's perdu tell me a reason why like give me a reason why i should be able to lie to myself about betting on st peter's because i'm gonna do it but just give me a reason to make myself feel okay about doing it i saw a stat because i remember i think i bet against both of the ones that happened the lat there's been two 15 scenes to go to sweet 16 or uh yeah to the sweet 16 the last one was gulf coast no orl obbert slash yeah orl and gulf coast and um they both lost but they both covered double digits i believe

that's what the stat was oh okay so um lean st peter's yeah love it love it uh i just can't wait to see edy against that team yeah like edy against against uh uh st peter it's just gonna be funny to see edy against dug yeah so i'll tell you already what's gonna happen uh hanks gonna bet money line on st peter's if i bet money line on st peter's they're gonna lose if me and big pat don't bet money line on st peter's and hanks the only one that does they're gonna win and the hanks gonna walk around strutting peacock he's literally a peacock yeah yeah all right yeah well tell hank i miss him go do all right uh thanks steve we'll see him two weeks stanford steve was brought to you by our friends over at body armor you can find body armor edge

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things can go great at the end in georgia but what are we thinking going forward i mean you were incredible on on tv but i know that your passion is always to coach um you give us the marching orders and we'll and we'll take them and we'll we'll push it whichever way you want well i'm bored to death and and lately and that's that outside of seeing some basketball i saw duke michigan stayed the other day i saw some practices i'm going to go to a g league game tonight i mean i definitely want to get back to work um i definitely want to coach i mean you can't have the the season that we had and not want to get back we had so many things going in the right direction coven hits and it affects everybody uh it affected us in a big way um we had some transfers and we

had some injuries this past year uh we had some close games but we just couldn't get over the hump we could never get traction so like i want to get in a situation where we're doing that again but but at the same time i enjoy tv i'm i enjoy uh like right now like i'm watching tape like i'm preparing for the games right in the in the sense of the sweet sixteen teams and just to keep yourself fresh you learn things you you have a notebook for how you would defend somebody you have a notebook for uh all the things that you like that you see and so i'm trying to stay real well versed in that so i'm for best option available right now that that's that's what i'm that's what i'm gonna choose the best player available to the draft right i want the best option available yeah well you

should get some hats out on a table so you can pick the one you'd be like pick up the cbs one or the fox one like i'm back guys have you given any thought whatsoever to maybe nba maybe doing something at the pro level i have i mean i think i think um i mean i love the pro level and uh in the past i've had a couple chances to interview for head jobs and early on in my career i had a couple chances as an assistant but i haven't given it a lot of thought as actually that be in the career path i mean i'd be open to that but at the same time i enjoy being a head coach and and uh but i do i do love the nba like i'm gonna get to the g league game today college park in main get there early with my son and and uh a guy in my staff david gale and like just watch like

how they train people because my son riley was with me for the last three years he gave up baseball after his first year here to coach and i know he wants you know he's 22 he's graduating in may and i know he truly wants to get back into and you couldn't have a much bigger fan i know you've got a lot of fans but riley's in that fan group either if you remember meeting him a couple years yes yes yeah but uh he still wears his shirts but uh to me i i love the game right i love coaching it i love the practice and the development part of it and again after a year like now like i mean if they make a call at the end of the game we we have a chance to beat auburn at our place and they're number one in the country i mean in 22 years i've never been a part of a of a worst

non-call like i'd have slept better uh no one they call the blocking file at the end of the game where it really should have been a travel and then a charge it's kind of like what probably what jayme dixon is dealing with right now after the game the other day i mean call over and back call something that right the whistle at the end of the game so it doesn't come down to it the way that it does but there's always those moments that keep driving you competitively that you want to get back at it so i really am pretty open on it and and that that's the most important thing for me is just to kind of take it unemotionally uh and and really really look at it in a good way and there and there's things we're going to do different this time again even from the beginning when it comes to choosing

a job the and i think those those are really really crucial yeah i mean you you answered the question by the way when you said you're going to a g league game tonight that was like that was it right there that's how much you love ball right there absolutely yeah absolutely and now you learned from so many errors i went to one last week i mean i learned a ton and i love it i mean i just i love studying the game yeah so let's talk about this sweet 16 you said you were watching taking notes what high high level like which team do you think right now poses the most the most matchup problems for the rest of the field going through the sweet 16 lead eight final four for the rest of the field i would say i'll go with kansas because i think they have so many guys

that can beat you and and and they can defend i mean they can really defend and they can keep you off the file line i mean they're not in this tournament being deep is is not overly important because of the length of the timeouts and and and guys they get used to playing a lot of minutes are pretty well conditioned to it at this point so like those long tv timeouts seem like an eternity for guys and i think you can play a smaller amount of players and and and really not lose a lot you know that the problem in this tournament is what's going to come down to in so many ways as a turnover battle and the free throw battle right i mean if you're giving up an ordered amount of points off turnovers uh it's going to be a problem and and and the trick is if you've

been low on turnovers during the year can you stay in character during this well it's the same thing it's the same thing with the file line so like there's teams right now that would really make me nervous in a in a in a really close game last two three minutes where they've got to go put the game away at the file line and and there's also some teams that are they going to can are they going to impose their will enough to make sure like their that their strength is getting to the file line yeah like arkansas strength is getting to the file line well genzaga doesn't put you on the file line very much but at the same time if you put genzaga at the file line timmy uh and and homegrown are very very average free throw shooters and and like are you going to force them to file

during the game because timmy doesn't get called for many files neither does homegrown but at the end of the game okay can you trust them to go and make the file shot so like the closer you can keep it inside of these games the better it's going to be and i say that because i think kansas has got some real spreadability that where they can knock you out because they've got such quickness they've got such speed they don't have to rely on any one aspect of the game to beat you offensively and defensively they can really really lock you down especially from three that's a good answer because i think they're kind of the forgotten you know team right now where it's a lot of genzaga a lot of duke a lot of you know u n c u c l a and phil nove back in the mix

but kansas has probably has the easiest draw remaining in terms of their their region and they have been playing great basketball yeah coach which one of these coaches that's remaining right now would you uh would you expect to be the one that's most likely to come out there was something unusual something creative offensively that we haven't seen yet like who's which one of these coaches is always a guy that's like looking for a new wrinkle that would debut it in a time like this during the sweet 16 oh there's no question it's eric musselman and it's eric musselman versus the field i mean he's he's very unique i mean he's going to find different ways to guard you and they don't panic that's the thing about arkansas i mean notey is not shooting the ball

real well i think in our league in the sec there was only one game he wasn't in double figures and it was when they got beat by texas a and m in the sec tournament well they're not shooting it great but at the same time they're finding ways to win they get fouled i mean he's going to find ways he's not relying on the three and if they were they wouldn't win because they're not shooting the three nearly as well now stan lumete is is the guy that i think is an x factor for them to shoot the ball and and and i think what what eric's going to do is find ways to not only get him open on the break but get him open in the half court but not only what they can do offensively to get fouled but what they can bring at you defensively to disrupt you and i think that's where the

background with his dad all those years of being such an innovative coach what he's done whether it's the g league the mba when avada arkansas what he's done as an innovative coach is is a big thing in this tournament because you know your nerves are so open for uh interpretation inside of this game like this this whole thing comes down to mental toughness and you start getting nervous and uptight and you miss shots and all of a sudden you start seeing ghosts and your shoulders get tight and you start forcing the action or you start getting quiet or you lose your awareness on defense and all of a sudden that's where the game is and i think what eric's done with this team with the way that they played in the sec is they've overcome a lot of that and i think they're gonna

have to against gonzaga because you're gonna have to go right at gonzaga they don't get called for a lot of files i think timmy's averaging like two files per 40 minutes like i don't know how you do that but like you got to go at them like you got to go at north carolina because they don't commit a lot of files so the teams that are innovative creative go after you post it up put you in pick and roll lift your bags out of the lane those are the things that are going to be separators in this tournament those are parts of the game within the game i think and conversely which one of the coaches would you trust the most in terms of in-game adjustments um it's a good question i think i think i think bill selfish right there uh no question about it um i think might k i mean

being at that game the other day it was one of the most intense atmospheres i've ever been at is somebody sitting in the stands i mean the tension in that building in the last five six seven minutes was unbelievable but he got that team settled in and michigan state played into it a little bit it was 74 73 a j hoagard hoagard drives it gets it blocked they come down they give up a bucket now they're down one joey hauser comes in and gets it blocked well that's the game and then hoagard comes down on the other end goes for a steal all right they get a back cut they get a layup it changes the whole game well mic made the adjustments inside of that game of of of really letting roach get going and and really get the ball reversed and paul was such a good passer inside of that game

he created so much offense for them and and i think guys like that that aren't relying on one way to beat you the teams that are overly relying on three like i like villanova in this tournament but like they really really need to make threes and really very few people have taken them away from yeah i like how you call them mic k there for a second i was like wait are you talking about the radio host we'll go with mike szefsky yeah you don't you don't call him coach do you call other coaches coach oh i call him coach absolutely yeah absolutely i mean because because um and he's been great to me since this happened i've had some guys that have just been fantastic and he's been one of them and and but no when i first met him i think i was like 20 years of age so he was coached then

he's coached now guys deserve that i i'm not one of those guys that overly call people coach or coach or you know all that cliche stuff but he deserves coach there's no doubt about that uh you mentioned the threes this is maybe a dumb question but if you're a team if you go into a game with your team and you're shooting very poorly from three in that game do you ever do you tell your team to adjust and stop taking threes or you of the mindset of like you just got to keep shooting we'll knock a couple down uh because i always like that's the tournament sometimes like you catch a team when they're hot and you're not or vice versa and it can be over well it's two things first off you don't you don't well you don't want them taking challenge threes and most of the good

three-point shooting teams like villanova is a great example they really move the ball right like they make the next pass so like this this tournament and we saw this the other day i i thought duke's length bothered michigan state and and when michigan state started to make some open jump shots started to get out on the break the game changed for them but when they were trying to make plays at the rim when they were trying to shoot pull-ups it's amazing how the length changes the game and and and again small guards can sometimes be a problem in this like i didn't think auburn had a ton of energy in the game the other day walker kessler got in foul trouble and bruce sat him down early they took some bad shots but small guards were a problem for miami

and the fact that miami could get whatever they wanted on the offensive end but i don't think you stop your team from shooting it i think you control the game more with trying to make sure you're getting something inside when that thing gets to five team files and this is one of the things that makes mike shevsky so good when that thing gets to five team files in in the half i mean they are going inside yeah so like if your team doesn't have awareness situational awareness of where the bonus is or if you're not cognizant as a coach when that thing gets to three and four how do we get to five and six when it gets to five how do we get to seven when it gets to seven and eight how do we get to ten so we get to two shots we're doing your team a disservice and and when you can

get into the bonus and i think this is something to really watch when teams are in the bonus somewhere around the twelve minute mark eleven minute mark ten minute mark like you're not going to probably lose right unless you're a really really poor free throw shooting team so you want your team to play with freedom you want it to get reversed you want them to get driving kicks make the next pass but you better have a plan for how you're going to get filed whether it's on the drive or whether it's on the post up and and with that being said that's why per due is such a dangerous team because they score from two they score from three the offensive rebounds zack eddie is the number one offensive rebound percentage guy in the country trevon williams is fifteenth um they get fouled

those two and ivy get fouled uh an amazing amount so they can beat you at the file line and and now they're going to file they're going to put you on the file line too but they're not reliant on just one way to beat you right so when you have that and your team is used to doing that it gives you a real advantage in this tournament because no matter you but you can bring in the dolly lama you can bring back phil jackson you can bring back uh you name it doctor phil if you're struggling shooting the ball in this tournament your mind is going to play tricks on you and and it just happens because the the the bigger the stage that the further in the tournament the brighter the light so to speak and it just messes with your head and you got to be a great

psychologist on the bench with your team but at the same time know what's going to win the game for you yeah i think per due was in the double bonus at about the 10 minute mark in the second half and so at that point there was nothing that texas could do even when they went on like small little runs they're still committing fouls you know 85 feet from the basket put them on the line for two shots no you're right and these teams that file like st peters is a great story but they file right like they follow a lot and like in in kentucky goes 23 or 35 from the file line the other day you know if they make a couple more it's that's not even a story but what st peters does is they play really really hard now howard i thought they did a good job even though uh oscar had 30 i

thought they did a good job of backing off some of kentucky's guards like sub earwheeler they just backed off and and forced those guys to make plays well you can't do that against per due right like there's nobody on that lineup that you can really cheat off of so what are you going to do are you going to zone where's your double going to come from but the fact of the matter is st peters follows you and and i think that plays right into the hands of per due inside of this game and again because they can shoot the three at such a high level it's an added bonus the fact that they've got two guys that are impossible to guard inside and that ivy can get to the rim on anybody right now in the college game i think is a real benefit for them i uh i need to know uh for

my own purposes and entertainment watching this game coming up uh is your brother excuse me is your brother-in-law coach harbaugh going to be at the michigan villanova game you know what knowing him it i would i would it's in chicago right no that wasn't philly philly yeah i know wait is it i'm not sure what that was i don't know if that one's going to be in philly there's another one that's going to be in philly i will tell you that game st st peters is playing that game is going to be in san antonio i apologize okay yeah well i think he's got practice i have not talked to him this week i talked to him last friday um knowing him he probably will i mean and and and i wouldn't be surprised especially with the support that you want has given him i think a lot of it would depend

on on his practice but knowing him he probably will i mean he uh he went to miami to watch wwe at one point or vegas or wherever he from miami i guess it was i mean he just jumps in a plane and he's gone he's a sports nut and i know he loves michigan sports so i would imagine he probably would how just from a uh like managing the the team perspective you know you you obviously had a final four run with marquette in terms of going from the first weekend to the second how hard is it to keep the kids focused because i'd imagine i mean it's you come back the campus is buzzing everyone wants to have a good time is it very difficult to keep everyone focused in these few days leading up to the next task at hand in the sweet 16 absolutely and the only thing harder is

when you go from the final eight to the final four that week no i'll never forget it we won two games we beat holy cross and then we beat missouri and we go in the locker room and i've got walk-ons doing interviews after the game right i have swear to god and then and then you come back and now they're not only doing interviews i mean they got three or four people around them so especially if you don't have a setup like if your sid media relations director doesn't have a real understanding of this if they become fans in this it's a problem and i think it can be really really distraction focused i've said for a long time you know the more you go up the ladder the more people want answers from you the more you better have questions right so your questions better be

like okay when am i getting in the gym to make sure i'm getting my shots when am i going to watch extra film what's my routine if you get off your routine and you get in and you get caught up in so much of this and remember when back then the social media wasn't even remotely an issue like it is now so i think the teams like the teams that were leaving like i know if michigan state would have would have won on sunday they were flying home and they were going to leave for san francisco last night like the teams that get out of town early right now have a real advantage yeah uh to get in get get situated get in their film rooms get their war rooms set up so to speak you know social media is still there but but they're locked in and and and the people that are spending all their

time like i always say don't take a breath right like don't take a breath you know you catch your breath okay real quick but you don't sit there and take a breath because now as soon as you do that now you start resting and you start thinking about what you did versus focused on what you've got to go do and then when it hits all of a sudden like you cannot prepare your mind for for for that day right and for the for the elite eight no matter how hard you try unless you've been there and know how to get yourself ready for it the best way possible going in because if you get off and this is what happens you could see it the other day in the games when guys start getting out of character when they start making trying to make plays that they can't make taking shots that they

can't take what they're telling you they're not only telling you that they're not locked into you they're thinking about their future and i think every step of the way you go up here you got to be fighting the next level right like the better you play the better at your opportunity for the next level the worst thing you can do is go prove to the next level something that you can't do and you you watch it there'll be games on thursday and friday night you would say why is he taking that shot why is he doing that why do you commit that file because they get distracted they lose their sense of purpose on what they're there for yeah when you were coaching dwayne wade when you were making your run to the to the final four what was his mentality like in between those

weekends like over the course of the week that you guys came back and you know you're going to the sweet sixteen what was he like in practice just around the facility his was great his was great and that in turn made it be great for everybody else guys like travesty and or steve novak was a freshman at that point and he was already a great worker but when your best player is leading the way and and and he had fun and he was great with his teammates but there were no games you know when he got to the gym there there were no you know i never i don't remember ever having to get him back okay to to to squared away the only time that my team let down a little bit where where the distractions hit were practicing before the sweet sixteen game against pittsburgh and i think we're

practicing at st thomas and i let people come into the practice and there's media waiting around and things like that that was the only time because our work at marquette was good but that was the only time that we got to the gym for the open practice that i really jumped them and i cleared the rock locker mother the coaches and i jumped them because i think what happens and you'll see this this weekend okay teams go okay they have in their mind how far they can go right and the only time that my i got nervous about where my team was at was that that that practice in minnesota would like okay they've gone as far as they think they can go they're happy with being here and i think it happens to teams it really does because they don't expect to get where they're at so they

don't know how to deal with it well we went out and everything kind of changed from that point on we beat pittsburgh the next day we have a practice before kentucky they give you an hour and a half in the arena dwayne wade took three charges inside of that practice i mean he took three charges inside of a scrimmage and we didn't scrimmage but for about 15 minutes i had two guys go for a loose ball that knocked out five or six chairs near the end zone in the court side and knocked out one of those curtain partitions partitions because we didn't call out of bounds and that was like the best i felt like kentucky'd won 26 straight games they were rolling but the best i felt like okay we're not going to show up in this game and be cannon fodder for kentucky we're going to come to play

and i think you got to have those moments inside of your team but if dwayne doesn't do that and set the tone i'm not sure we ever get to that point that's a great story and that's a great lesson for this tournament um i have one last question for you coach uh it's the row back question you take uh go to rowback.com right now 20 off your first purchase r-h-o-b-a-c-k dot com next time you're in new york i think you're gonna come up in a month or so we got some row back for you you can come visit r-h-o my daughter's moving there yeah r-h-o-b-a-c-k dot com use code take for 20 off your first purchase yes you better come by and say hello when you come up here to move her in my last question out of all the coaches in the tournament now uh and you know a lot of these guys

who would be the most likely in your mind to do vampire bats before the big game to get everyone ready wow that's a good one i'm not sure there's any i'm not sure there's anybody that has that mentality if i was gonna have to pick if i was gonna have to pick somebody i would say kelvin samson and he would bring the he would bring the vampire bats and put him in a cage and make him fight in the front of his like i think he would confine the space a little bit i don't think he'd let him fly around but i think he'd make him fight tear each other up i'd say that with all respect because that guy's fearless i mean i love their team i mean if they can get filed they got a great chance uh that game's going to come down to the offensive rebounding because both teams offensive

rebound it very well uh i arizona is a tremendous passing team but i mean the team that gets filed in that game is going to be a difference but i would say probably kelvin samson but i would say tommy loyte maybe even though i don't know him very well he's got a creative he's got a creative genius going to him he might pull something like that off yeah i like i like the kelvin samson answer i mean houston they're just a mean team like they're mean they're there's grown men and they're just mean and you love watching a team like that where you know what you're going to get out of them and it's just a toughness that you don't see in every team no exactly they block shots they get steals um they they they offensive rebound you know crazy they don't shoot great

from the file line which is a huge thing in this tournament you know when you get into these arenas and and they only shoot 68 percent from the line and they don't get fouled a lot like i looked at it they only scored five only 15 percent of their points in a normal game come off the file line like that's a big difference you know and something like that for a team that plays is hard so i mean they're gonna have to they're gonna have to find a way to make sure that they're getting fouled when you play a team like arizona because the last thing you want to do right now is get into a running game with arizona with the way that they're playing i mean they they can really really turn it up in a hurry so my my last last question was going to be about

providence because we've talked about providence for the last month or so and about how uh their luck this year everyone keeps saying their luck is going to run out i'm kind of the mindset that sometimes if you have a track record of being consistently lucky it means that you're doing all the stuff the small things that will translate into you appearing lucky and when you look at like you know the uh the kin palm rankings you're going to be outside of that top 20 top 25 but you're still doing small stuff correctly do they do enough small stuff correctly to have a chance against kansas oh i think they do because they play hard i mean they really really play hard i think they got to get watson going and and i think that's going to be huge i think they play better when

they're playing through him but i mean they can shoot the ball i mean they they've had games so they make 15 threes um you're going to have to shoot it against kansas and and that's easier said than done because of the way kansas defends the three but but they can play a lot of different ways they can play you in the 50s they can play you in the 80s they've had that one really bad game like they had against creighton in the tournament to go get it knocked out of your system that year that we got beat or the year that uh we went to the final four we won the league in conference usa we go to the tournament and we lose to uab in the first round and dwayne wade had a triple double points rebounds turnovers right and so we come home we get in the gym i mean we got our mind right

and and i think when you have that late in the season you know a close loss doesn't always do that when you get smacked around a little bit like they did against creighton that wakes you up that gets you locked in and i think that team is playing with a real purpose they've been playing like that all year so they've been really really consistent adds a really good coach i wouldn't put the vampire bats past him yeah uh not by any stretch i don't know how many you find in providence rhod island but but he could he'll get him yeah but i think they're i think they're a good team that them as much as i like kansas that would not surprise me i just think kansas is speed uh and and the matchup issues that they create they're gonna have to play great half court defense and that's

easier said than done against kansas yeah we love ed coolie we love providence unbelievable season they've had um coach this has been awesome we appreciate it and uh we're always rooting for you and we hope hopefully we'll see you soon in person you will now i appreciate you guys a lot i appreciate being able to do this and it's great to see you yeah thanks so much great to see you coach thank you tom crean is brought to you by our friends over at better help relationships can take work a lot of us will drop anything to go help someone that we care about we'll go out of our way to treat other people well but how often do we give ourselves the same treatment well this month better help online therapy wants to remind you to take care of your most important relationship

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at that that's factor that it could be huge yeah factor that into the numbers billy's just gonna be hitting up our sportsbook asking them to put out like boosted specials yeah specifically to counterbalance his potential losses uh okay uh quick quick little parental control i don't know what this segment would be called but it's interested your comments kylie janer travis god i'm sure you guys saw this news did you yes they had their son yes named a wolf and then a month later they decided that they wanted to change his name i think you get i think i think you can change a kid's name up until a year and a half what what i do yeah having two children myself i know when my son became realized his name also very funny because he learned my name recently

so big cat no drop a dan right in my face every now and then it's very funny um but yeah i think a year and a half is right around when you can change it and also has to be the first kid because you can't if it's a second kid like if i changed my daughter's name right now my son would be what like what the fuck right because he's now learning her name yeah he knows her name right so yeah i i kind of agree with that if you name your kid something like wolf and they're just it has to fit them you on what you don't want to name your kid wolf you want to meet a baby and then experience it for a little bit and determine if it's wolf worthy yeah it is the second kid it's the second kid so they can't do it they got stormy story they can't do it because

then the the other kid is definitely learned wolf and that's confusing as fuck but i'm just gonna take a shot of the dark no judgment i have a feeling that these kids probably won't have the most normal upbringing anyway that's probably correct just to shot the dark the kardashian clan probably not like a typical childhood okay skeet probably probably named the kid after wolf blitzer they're probably big cnn fans that's exactly yeah maybe they got changed to rex there you go yeah oh rex my fiancee proposes weekend at a meat ranch why did he think that was a romantic venue i still said yes that's a dude's rock moment we're just gonna get a big steak after this what is a meat ranch specifically is it like a slaughterhouse i think there is it what ranch wouldn't be a meat ranch

you could have non-meat ranch like if you have alpaca farms but that could be meat but you don't eat them you just you could you use their their wool for your own war yeah uh i i just think this is a dude's rock moment and you said yes so he kind of he's got the upper hand yeah well what this means is he's anchoring you for the rest of your relationship that his most romantic moments will be spent on things that matter to him no this is um guys are really stupid and uh i have a very big blind spot for like romance at times like oh i got you these flowers oh these flowers are like clearly from the bodega down the street and you thought of it two seconds ago like that kind of shit it's not our strong suit sometimes yeah but if the view is good it might be justifiable

that's true i'd like to see the meat ranch and how was the steak right let's let's find that out as well technically all ranches are meat ranches yeah it's going to be like 15 seconds no it's it's a good point billy uh what about alpaca oh no you can eat them that's more like a farm i think a ranch yeah true beef cattle okay okay yeah i messed up at work and don't know what to do my boss wait wait wait when you're gonna bonk me for this but the phrase meat ranch would make sense as like a euphemism for calm yeah no that is a bonk well yep hold on do you think of it like the salad dressing you are correct that's 22 where your mind went to i'm gonna start calling it meat ranch from now on pft called me let's say it again i have pft's i said i said that uh you guys could

call their own cum meat ranch because it comes out of their meat mm-hmm and it looks like ranch dressing there okay updated meat ranch um synonym for cum oh we got it my boss and i have a joke my boss and i have a joke that he's my office dad and it's a purely non-sexual thing today i sent an email calling him daddy instead of dad and that has made things awkward oh he showed another coworker in confidence to see if i was hitting on him now we think some into him and are formerly fun and healthy office dynamic might be completely ruined should i just leave town yes i this shit is so weird to me like whatever people do like this is my office house work right yeah my work wife yeah that's you're basically just saying we haven't fucked yet but we would yeah like what are

you doing i i i have always been like very uncomfortable i i don't know if it happens a lot in real life as much as it does on television but like going home to your family and being like yeah my work wife was telling me this uh it's your coworker mm-hmm if i was if i was legally allowed to a fucker yeah daddy though yeah you can't come back from that that's like that's like when you're in like first grade and you call the teacher mom by accident it's like probably i would say universally if you pulled everyone's most like their first memory of being completely embarrassed if that calling your teacher mom uh sup boys i have a question mostly for bubba i got hit by a car about three and a half years ago and it's basically my personality in the friend group now yep is there

any escaping this or will i always just be the friend that got hit by a car cut your hair i was gonna say get long hair yeah that's what i did uh yeah get tattoos um sleep just be really bad at reading yeah just have other things to get me lie about being colorblind to everybody so they make me colorblind i get i get colorblind way more than hit by a car it really did really did change your brand quite a bit do you think the car was a car a bright color well you wouldn't know but did anyone tell you would you have seen it if you weren't colorblind it was a hit and run i don't know yeah imagine if it was like imagine if the the driver was also colorblind colorblind on color blind crime yeah when will they start policing their own communities big cat they're like who

hits you like some gray car it was like a fucking yellow lambo you know you could you could also hope that somebody else in your friend group gets hit by a bigger car then they become the car person yeah just invite tony stewarton to come hang out for a while won't you pay him oh god what is the best way to get over someone without getting under someone else oh i get it rebound but you gotta work on yourself they don't want to work on yourself you gotta love you gotta learn how to love yourself before you can love someone else again better help yeah no i honestly like whenever someone uses those cliches like really the answer is like go out to a bar with your friends and get drunk and have fun i think i think the answer is always yeah or for me win a bet do do anything

to take your mind off of the old thing and it's like the last thing if you ever go through a breakup the last thing that you want to do is like leave your bed or your couch but that's also the thing that makes you feel the worst yes so get out there actually just go out there and find a hobby get a brand new hobby just pretend to like something until you actually like it because that's what most adult hobbies are or win a bet after wisconsin lost i won that tcu arizona over and i was like this is awesome again all right well this is going to be a mean one for you then last one hi big cat pft billy and hank my family does a betting competition for the first weekend in march madness where we each bet 25 dollars however we want and see who can win the most

money my boyfriend helped me pick my bets but i didn't realize he was just recommending all these bets that big cat posted on twitter oh no long story short i lost all my money my family thinks he's an idiot how can he win their respect back illegal this is a fake question because i did not lose all my bets on twitter i went seven and four the first day this is a lie what about the second it sounds like there was a second day it wasn't so great that they followed and then they're extrapolating that there are a few accounts that like i'll see that will it's always funny because i'm not a good gambler but as anyone knows it's gambling so you get hot every now and then i'll have people like create like fade big cat accounts and they'll just only count my losses

they'll be like oh i wasn't fading that wind streak that you went on like i i i miss those so this guy is bullshit you didn't lose all of it also just take the ball turn it to girl girl take the ball turn it and yeah i suck at gambling i'm very clear about that i don't think i i don't think i lie about that part yeah i think no there's no pretending i think you put you perfectly averagely suck at gambling though like everybody sucks at gambling yeah i get hot when i get hot i'm happy and i tell everyone i'm hot and then i get cold and it sucks and i pretend i get hacked yep the uh the only reason why i'm even still float or i was even at 500 was because of the ball turn it the ball turn it and because of jersey jerry who was just the hottest gambler in

the world make it permanent i really i think hank purposely put this question in here because he wants me to make texas tech my game of the year you should he's been you've been doing yo you've been saying it and i'm why don't you make it your game of the year hank the refs the refs if you feel so confident about it ptsd no i'm worried about the rest your denial and ptsd i said it before the tournament this is the game the refs will show up for coach k excuse me mic k yeah all time power moved by i love that uh all right um uh it took us both a second yeah who's who's mic k mic k is going to sneak into tom kreene's house and strangle him i read an article that uh coach k actually it was an article about coach k's son-in-laws and he tried to make them all

call him coach yeah i think that's nice not on a power trip six what are you gonna say no go ahead forty one i was gonna say i don't remember if you said that on the show no i did not okay the last five days i know that's what that's why that's 22 25 69 but you will hear that story again that is now part of my coach k uh repertoire 64 original tournament fourth time and we have who's the who's now the goat 59 52 52 league of its own 47 next maybe you said 47 seven times nobody ate i feel like some of these like on the road ones are like mickey mouse championships kind of yeah they're just they're just random number generators yeah yeah i'd like to see the code behind those love you guys malik willis did the same throw that uh zack wilson did

but just 10 yards farther just want to add that as a little note at the end that throw all right yeah no father no added it was farther i want malik willis give me malik willis i love karsten wench had two mvp votes in 2017 give me malik willis ranches don't necessarily have to be for me and let's show them how to come love you guys so You You You

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