Pardon My Take - Super Wild Card Weekend, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Huge Win, Bills And Ravens Roll And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Super Wild Card Weekend and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. (00:00:00-00:07:15) We then Recap every game from the weekend Texans 32, Chargers 12 (00:07:15-00:35:03) Ravens 28, Steelers 14 (00:35:...03-00:53:17) Bills 31, Broncos 7 (00:53:17-01:15:21) Eagles 22, Packers 10 (01:15:21-01:34:32) Commanders 23, Bucs 20 (01:34:32-02:01:20) We then talk MNF (02:01:20-02:07:00), Texas vs Ohio State (02:07:00-02:16:31) and finish with who's back of the week (02:16:31-02:31:58).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take super wild card weekend recap. We're going to recap all five games. We had four duds and then an absolute thriller in Sunday Night Football. And PFT's commanders are marching on. We're gonna talk maybe a little preview for Monday Night Football because we didn't talk about it on Friday. Who's back of the week fastest two minutes? Listen we only got a few of these left so cherish them. It is a Football Monday and it's
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Starting point is 00:03:14 Hutchinson for a huge gain off a fumbled snap and just like that the Texans were storming the defense The game broke open when Herbert was picked off by safety Eric Curry who made Samosa his playing time and didn't stop until he was Indian end zone and proved the chargers are a non-factor come playoff time. Texans 32. Chargers in the stinky cloud 12. WAP WAP We head down to Baltimore Maryland where the new look Ravens defense and Dean Black-eyed peas said let's get Lamar dead Let's get Lamar dead in here
Starting point is 00:03:53 Hey Hey as he connected with Rashad of love with teal up tequila Bateman and he was very easy to score with Russell sprouts Wilson had another performance that was very hard to digest and all the kids at home hated it, but George W. Bush Pickens is bagged at it again. But the Baltimore offense was committing war crimes with a ground invasion as Derrick Henry Kissinger carpet bombed the Steelers for another Pittsburgh playoff louse. Ravens 28, the Steelers 14. On to Sunday to Western New York where the Broncos had Bills saying, Troy Vey as Franklin
Starting point is 00:04:30 caught the first score of the game to put Denver up early, but they forgot about 17 as quarterback Josh Ellin went against Dee that was generous to him telling his team, let's be in the game and made the Broncos look like the interns the way he abused them. The game broke open when the offense dropped their Johnson on the table and challenged the Broncos to tie that. Ultimately the Broncos shouldn't hold their heads down as they'll be doing bow tricks on it for the quarterback of the future. The Bills 31, Broncos 7, and no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. We head over to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene. We head to Philadelphia where Wake Up Elliot
Starting point is 00:05:20 continues to sleep on the season as he missed another extra point and almost cost the birds another game. Thankfully King Bond took over the game when Jordan Love was seeing smoke so he's about to choke then we took it for the oh. Big play Ray LeMontagne had Philly fans saying you are the best thing you're the best thing ever happened to me as as he continued the pick parade with one of the best plays of the weekend. Nolan Smith and Weston shot off the line like a bullet all game long as he massacred the
Starting point is 00:05:53 Packers on his way to two sacks including one late to seal the game. Eagles 22, Packers 10. We go down to Tampa, Florida where backwards hat Dan Quinjammon Button is looking younger the older he gets Meanwhile Todd Bowles was mixing up his left and his right like Hank trying to understand the political spectrum and Mike's seven minutes in heavens Took Marshawn Latahor into the closet and made out like a bandit cooking the former Saints quarterback in the first half Up and down the field in an early score cooking the former Saints quarterback in the first half up and down the field in an early score but Jaden Danelli was not going to be denied with a bandaid on his face covering a gash so deep Mike Tirico tried to grab it a few cocktails.
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Starting point is 00:07:44 pardon my take. Go to Chevy.com to check out all the great offers and even build your own Silverado and visit jdpower.com slash awards for more award details. Okay super wild card week at least the first five games in the books. We got a lot to talk about boys. We had some duds and then we had a thriller on Sunday night and PFTs commander. So we're going to, we're going to go in chronological order all the way back to Saturday, which is always hard because your brain's like, Oh shit, the Texans and chargers did happen. Yeah. So we have Texans 32 chargers 12. I'd like to put my hand up real quick and say that I want to apologize to the Houston Texans 32 Chargers 12 I'd like to put my hand up real quick and say that I want to apologize to the Houston Texans because I
Starting point is 00:08:28 Was down on them and I think rightfully so at points in the season In their offense rightfully so that Texans defense. Holy shit. Did they bring it on Saturday? They were so goddamn good. And not only were they so good, I thought that game was decided by the fact that the chargers came out like basically a perfect start. Chargers go down the field, kick a field goal, get the fumble on the very next play. And if the Texans defense doesn't play their balls off to start the game, if they give up a touchdown on the first drive, if they give up a touchdown after the fumble, uh, that game could look totally different,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but essentially the Texans defense played so well early that they let CJ Stroud and that offense find a rhythm to a point where they were able to, to, to win that game. So like that was just that the Texas defense was just so good. They were good. They're all the cornerbacks were good, especially Derrick Stingley. Oh yeah. Stingley was a problem. Will Anderson was very, very good too. We have slept on the Texans defense.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. The offense still has kind of things. I think it's been under the assumption that they're not a great team. Like overall, when we've been talking about them, we haven't been talking about them like they're a very good team because they haven't blown out bad teams. They've played in close games all year long They haven't really shown us flashes on offense But their defense has been good and their defense was very good against the Chargers who they were the team
Starting point is 00:09:53 That was supposed to have the suffocating defense going into it And then if you go up if you dominate the first part of the game and you go up six to nothing on right field Goals that when we talked about like if you go up if you kick a field goal to go up six points in a game, it feels like the other team always comes down and scores again. It felt like you were, you were losing the game, having only gotten six points out of those, those two incredible drives. Yeah, we were watching it being like, if you're a Chargers fan, you have to feel very uneasy right now, because you have had every lucky bounce to start this game, and everything's gone your way and you're only up six, nothing. And then the game completely switched on the fumbled snap that CJ
Starting point is 00:10:31 Stroud had scrambles out of the pocket, makes incredible play, hits a bomb down the field, like 34 yards. That was like that play that Ben Johnson tried to get Jared Goff to run. Yeah. He said, can you intentionally fumble it? Because it throws the whole defense off. They, they get off what their normal schedule is and their routine is. Right. And then it can open stuff up. This was not intentional. This is a mistake, but it opened everything up downfield. And then all of a sudden, yeah, like they're
Starting point is 00:10:56 saying, it's the whole offense looked different. Right. And that was the end of the half. And they, if they get, if they get a, if that ends up being a fumble or like senior shroud falls on the ball, the chargers get the ball back. They can maybe drive. They're up six, nothing. They go into halftime instead that like something happened there where it woke up the Texans offense. Cause then they go on the, they get a touchdown. Then they forced a three and out and they get another three points. So now it's 10, six and halftime in a half where you're like, everything that could have gone wrong for the Texans went wrong and the chargers
Starting point is 00:11:24 are somehow down. And then the second half was just an absolute like that was, I I've retired chargering because of Jim Harbaugh and the culture he's built that was charging. Was it charging? I mean, they, the pick six, like everything just fell apart all at once. I feel like chargering would be a little bit closer at the end. end This was yeah, I think the charges ran into an acute case of building their entire offense out of lad mcconkey Yeah, so about that And we have to have a Justin Herbert conversation But lad mcconkey was incredible and the rest of the Chargers offense was not lad mcconkey had 197 yards the other wide receivers had 45
Starting point is 00:12:09 and and tight ends lad mcconkey had one touchdown when Justin Herbert was throwing the lad mcconkey had one touchdown one interception when he was throwing to anyone else he had zero touchdowns three interceptions he was 60% completion percentage to lad 29% to everyone else 13 yards per pass to lad 2.6 to everyone else. 13 yards per pass to Ladd. 2.6 to everyone else. And Ladd had 8 first downs and everyone else had 1. It was... One? One. That's passing. They just couldn't do anything that wasn't Ladd-McConkie. And honestly, like, look, I mean, we should talk... Justin Herbert, if that if that lad McConkey touchdown doesn't happen
Starting point is 00:12:45 that stat line is one of the all time worst stat. It was already a bad stat line. It was like that at least gave him 80 yards in a touchdown. Was it the pick six that bounced off Will Disley? So that one wasn't on Justin Herbert but the other ones were. So he had four interceptions. One was not his. The I think the worst one by far was the first one because it was six nothing first half, CJ Stroud throws an interception and the very next play Justin Herbert tries to throw across his body across the field. Yeah. And like, you just can't, I don't know what he was doing there. And then he had the one where he overthrew lad. And then I can't
Starting point is 00:13:24 remember. I can't remember what the last, but he, he was bad. He was really there and then he had the one where he overthrew lad and then I can't remember I can't remember what the last but he he was bad he was really bad and his offensive line didn't help him but like Justin Herbert has been in the playoffs twice now he is he was 14 for 32 with four interceptions on Saturday the other game he was in the playoffs they blew a 27 nothing lead it's not good yeah I still would take them but it's not good. Big Cat this stat is it a is it a bad stat? Is it a good stat or is a bad stat that actually is kind of good if you read it the wrong way? Okay. Justin Herbert is now the only player in NFL history to throw more interceptions in a playoff game than he had interceptions during the entire regular season. Okay, I think that is officially a bad good stat.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I think it's a bad stat that's good if you're a loser. Yeah, it's a bad stat right now. Actually, it'll be a bad stat. When you look back at the season, if you're like, remember that season you only threw three interceptions? Yeah. You just hope that the person you're talking to isn't like, but what about the playoff you threw four?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Then what? So they must have won the Super Bowl, right? Yeah. Yeah. You just hope that the person doesn't have that locked and loaded because you can get away with being like, Justin Herbert actually only threw three interceptions in a season. Here's the take. Three interceptions is not enough interceptions. That's not enough. You got to throw a few. You have to have more interceptions than that. But yeah, it's, it's, it shines a light on how well he played and how the charges formula during the regular season was play mistake free football, play tough defense, and then somehow you win the
Starting point is 00:15:02 game. Right. And in this game, it didn't work out and he did not play mistake free football by a long shot. He was to be fair to Justin Herbert they hit the fuck out of him a lot. They hit the fuck out of him and Greg Roman I think he only called 16 runs which again that goes back to the Texans defense. Texas defense up front and and I mean Singletary, Kamari Lassner like they all were balling but like that he had no time. They were suffocating like as Bad as Justin. I know that the conversation wants to be about Justin Herbert because that's what we do. We talk about quarterbacks I don't think you could talk about Justin Herbert without it first saying like hey dude
Starting point is 00:15:36 credit to the Texans defense because that was a lot of them and like Justin Herbert played bad, but it was also the Texas defense playing out of this world good I think people are frustrated with Justin Herbert played bad, but it was also the Texas defense playing out of this world good. I think people are frustrated with Justin Herbert because this gets really into like the sports media ecosystem. Correct. I'm gonna be the Justin Herbert, I'm gonna be the say something bad about Justin Herbert guy. Okay. You guys talk about him like he's won three Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He hasn't won a playoff game. But you guys, we're supposed to think Justin Herbert is the second coming of Jesus Christ and Tom Brady. Yeah. But your golden boy hasn't won a playoff game. He just threw four interceptions. He sucks. He sucks. He played a very bad game. At some point, the expectations if he is like your entire offense. And if he's supposed to be, you know, a great quarterback, that's gonna be worthy of a huge extension, you would like for him to play way, way better in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I think he already got his extension. Yeah. But worthy of that, worthy of that money and all the cap that's going to be tied up in him. I'll say this right now. And this isn't me defending Justin Herbert because he was terrible on Saturday. I will buy all the Justin Herbert stock. Right now is a great time.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I will buy all of it. If you think that he is just like a terrible quarterback, that's fine. I still think he's pretty good. I would like to see him with maybe some more weapons other than just Lab Macconkey. This also is like a perspective game where the Chargers were not supposed to probably be in the playoffs this year given the roster and like the overturn and the rebuild and everything. So it's like it's hard in the moment to say like you, it feels like you're defending Justin Herbert. I'm not trying to defend him. I'm more like they, they overachieve this year. Like they, they overachieve. They w they probably weren't going to be a playoff team if you looked at it going into the season and they overachieve to get to this point and they overachieve
Starting point is 00:17:20 so much that everyone had them as a favorite and I thought they were going to win this game. So it's like, you know, I thought I bet on them to win the Super Bowl. Like I, I, I was drinking the Kool-Aid. So it's almost like they're a little bit of a victim of their own success in that respect. Here's how Justin Herbert works for me. When I hear somebody saying this guy, when I hear somebody like sucking his dick, I'm like, let's pump the brakes. He hasn't really done anything.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Right. When I hear somebody like sharpening their knife and being like this fucking guy's a bomb. I'm like, actually, he's really good. Yeah. It's, it's basically a microcosm for the world right now. Yeah. Like if you live on an extreme where you're like Justin Herbert's actually the best quarterback in the NFL, it's like, dude, no. And then if you say that you'd rather have anyone else besides Justin Herb, you're like, all right, you're an idiot because Justin Herbert's good Yeah, he's it's everything in the world right now. He's very good. Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't say great just yet and with CJ Stroud
Starting point is 00:18:12 Maybe maybe his rookie season kind of fast forward through everything because usually when you get a rookie quarterback who's good He goes into like a game manager phase. Yeah, and he just doesn't turn the ball just take care of the ball You don't have to make these incredible throws downfield. Just be safe and let's move the ball in offense rely on our defense But we didn't get that his his rookie year It was like cj is going to go out there and he's going to be special and they're going to figure out a way to win and now Watching how they played against the chargers. That is a formula for these texans Yeah is to play great defense and then just be very very
Starting point is 00:18:47 Almost conservative on offense Yeah because I mean He he started the game bad and he like you can't turn the ball over and he did he had that one interception early But again, it was the Texans defense allowing CJ shroud to find his rhythm where he eventually did find his rhythm And he actually did a really good job running the ball, too Yeah, there was a few times where he made some big plays with his feet and uh, yeah, I text it. I don't want to do, I see this is what we
Starting point is 00:19:13 always do though with wildcard weekend is I always sell myself on the team. I just watched win a playoff game cause I'm like, well dude, they just want to play off game. That's really fucking good. That's hard to do, but they're also and they're like, the chiefs haven't done anything in these playoffs. That's true. So I haven't scored a point. Damn, that looks good. The Texans next week. No interception. They're proven. Yeah, no points. So if you were to have the, uh, the Texans playing against the Bills or the Ravens, what would your thought be about that game? Texans play? Yeah. I'd be like, they get killed. Yeah. The chief Chiefs are remember the Chiefs are just as good if not better Probably they are better than the
Starting point is 00:19:50 Sically is one more better Or the Raven so just remember that I'm happy that they've only they only have one by now because this used to be my biggest Problem when we had two bodies and I would do that for two games I'd be like well this lot this team just want to play off game we had two bodies and I would do that for two games. I'd be like, well, this team just won a playoff game. But I just, I really did walk away from this game being like, I apologize for sleeping on how good this Texans defense is.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And if CJ Stroud, again, can have time to like get in a rhythm in the game and not have to do it all himself, because that game could have been 14-nothing in a fucking blink of an eye. If that Texans defense doesn't stand up and, and it could have been 14 nothing with the chargers having the ball off of CJ Stroud pick. And it would have been like, well, this is, there's just no chance they're coming back there and obvious passing out. Instead they flipped it. And then Joe Mixon, who they brought in for these types of situations
Starting point is 00:20:44 was incredible in the second. He had 91 yards in the second half. He was the closer. They basically like that, that end of the game when the Texans, oh, it was the, the, the blocked, uh, extra point where Dicker got absolutely smoked. But that was a moment where you're like, okay, this is when they're lining up for that extra point, it could have been a 10 point game in the fourth quarter. And they blocked the extra point. They go, they get 10 point game in the fourth quarter and they block the extra point. They go, they get that two point, but then the Texans are like, no, we'll just run Joe mixing down your throat and you won't get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. That's a game manager formula. Yeah. Strong running game. Good defense. Don't make a mistake. The block, the blocked extra point that was returned. You have to, at some point, the special teams coach needs to go over that scenario. Yeah. Right. Like if the kick is blocked behind the line of scrimmage and it comes to you, it's not, you didn't just throw a forward pass. You're not like Peyton Manning who's disgusted and just does the most unathletic bat down of all time. You got it. You got to catch that thing. Well, it was doubly bad for Dicker because I think he was, I think part of him batting it down
Starting point is 00:21:43 was like, I don't want to get jacked up. Yeah, and he batted it down and still got jacked up Yeah, he took a shot just catch it and just get jacked up right in the chin. Um, what you say Hank the Nickelodeon broadcast Oh, yeah, I was gonna get that I wrote that I have I have a fun stat for Texans fans Since 2002 when the Texans were founded as a franchise They have more playoff wins than the Dallas Cowboys. That is very fun. They have six and the Dallas Cowboys have four.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That's very fun. It's got to really piss off Jerry Jones. The Texans are six and two in the Houston Texans time slot. Yeah, I was right about that. People were mad at me. What do you mean? That they always lose? They always lose.
Starting point is 00:22:23 No, they do. And they're actually in the time slot again next week They are yes the chiefs as his tradition The the also Joe mix in one last thing about Joe mix in the yeah He he was smoking on that Rex Ryan pack after the game in the locker room Which is very funny because he I guess Rex Ryan said that it was basically a buy for the Chargers Yeah, so he was having fun with that Rex Ryan. He's giving bulletin board material to teams. He's not a coach Can I just say that Rex Ryan like just chill out dude? He the way he's like every
Starting point is 00:22:52 Everything he's doing now is coming across as desperate like memes. Do you not agree he on countdown this morning? I tune in for a minute and they were talking about the variable hire And he's like hopefully I get a chance to kick his ass Twice twice a year like he's just begging for the job Yeah, and I think there's like 0% chance. Yes, it's even more pathetic. This is like crazy. This is crazy Rex girlfriend Yeah, he's being very very emotional and it's like okay Rex does you're you're coming on a little bit too strong, buddy Yeah, just chill out. Just just calm down a little bit. Let the process happen. You need to go coach high school or something Well, it's just a very it's a very funny
Starting point is 00:23:32 Like thought to have where I don't know what I know what he's thinking like Hey, if I say if I say these things on countdown, maybe brick Johnson is watching and he's like, oh shit We didn't think about Rex Rex Ryan. He might actually be thinking if I go viral enough, but you'll see this Yeah, like if enough people tweet about Rex Ryan being the Jets head coach Maybe and he might not be wrong I guess that I mean Providence Twitter did tweet enough about Ed Cooley leaving Georgetown that he had to answer questions about it So that could happen. But yeah, the Nickelodeon broadcast I was before that also I was gonna say Joe Mixin said this team reminds them of the Bengals team
Starting point is 00:24:07 I think it was same record same spot young quarterback beat the Chiefs Interesting. Yeah, okay. I I think this actually be live in the game I still think the Chiefs are a more well balanced. I would agree with that. And also you're giving Andy Reed, I mean, what 25 days to prepare. Yeah, I guess it's only a week to you know, he he did some scouting on both teams. But I'm sure they'll
Starting point is 00:24:34 have a way to figure out this Texans defense. Now does this continue the stat that we brought up earlier this season that every team that has played both the Harbaugh brothers went one and one against the Harbaugh brothers went one and one against the Harbaugh brothers because they got, they got beat by the, by the Ravens. Yeah. And then one against the chargers. I think that's every, every coach that has played against each Harbaugh brother. Yeah. Although I guess technically, uh, Antonio Pierce went one and two against the Harbaugh brothers. That's true. Cause he lost to both Jim, but I still
Starting point is 00:25:05 counts. Yeah. They got a win and a loss. Yeah. One in one minimum. Yeah. One in one minimum. I liked that. Yeah. Yeah. The Nickelodeon broadcast. We had no idea that we were going to make it. We made it big, big catfish and PF manatee. Um, it was literally the Leo meme. We were sitting in the gambling cave and we had the nickel and Nickelodeon broadcast up and we were just like wait What the fuck? That's us. It happens from time to time when they're doing the game time commercial Yeah, where I'll like hear my voice from the other side of the room be like what was that? But this one we had absolutely no idea was gonna happen. We look up at it and then next up is LePron James and Kevin was
Starting point is 00:25:47 it? Kev Finn, Kev Finn, hard, Kev Finn heart. Yeah, we were bigger than them. And then whoever I spice was that was she was next. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I, I had my kids watch it there. They didn't fully understand it, but they were like, that's kind of cool. I was like, that's me. They're like, well, that's a fish. I'm like well no but that's me. But yeah. Thank you Nickelodeon. And then they used our they used our the the SpongeBob quote from our interview with Jim Harbaugh in 2018. Yeah. As like here's some. Yeah wait can you play it. This is I think it was Adam Schefter's daughter introduced us. Yep. Some pretty big celebrities.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Check it out. Sports podcasters, big catfish and PF man. It's here in the house. LePron James is back. And this time he brought his friend, Ken Finn Hart and ice fish spice is here. If they introduces his podcastersters shouldn't we have been whales I look tired as big catfish They give you butthole eyes. Yeah, I'm not looking good. It was also funny that they made PFT a manatee, but also still way small
Starting point is 00:27:02 And then we also had our guy Jim Harbaugh get captured by the Stinky Cloud and then that was 32 to 6 was the score after Jim Harbaugh got captured by the Stinky Cloud. Is that a real stat? That's a real stat. Is he still in cloud? Uh, he might be. It's a dirty bubble. Oh dirty bubble. Sorry, sorry. What's the dirty bubble? The SpongeBob fans will get mad at you. Yeah, well Stinky Cloud's reacting. I got screwed up in my head. Dirty bubble. The dirty Bubble captured Jim Harbaugh. What is the Dirty Bubble? Does anyone have an explanation? He's just a bubble that's dirty and he's evil.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Okay, got it. Okay, so it's pretty literal. That seems like it's not fair that they captured him in that. I agree. Like you're only taking out one coach? I said it when it came up on the screen, it showed him with like dirty shit all over him. That's fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You can't do that to one coach. Did Harbaugh win the MVP? MVP? No, they gave it to the winner, the winning team. Yeah. We did stuff the ballot. So this year, they had a little disclaimer on the votes for MVP saying for entertainment purposes only look at that as opposed to other Years where it's definitely not supposed to be entertaining
Starting point is 00:28:09 But they made it seem like they would just give to whoever they wanted I would like to think that if the Chargers won hardball would have gotten the MVP. I would I would agree I think we did enough voting. Yeah, the dirty bubble. That's We're gonna have to bring that up to him next time. Yeah, cuz he'll be like wait, seriously I don't like that. He'll he'll be upset about it. Yeah. Look at that. The dirty bubble captured him You can't sponge bob rig during a playoff game. I do love the Nickelodeon broadcasts, though It was cool having it up there. They really went all out with the slime this year Do you guys have any problem with DJ shark tweeting a picture of him being like, now that long three and
Starting point is 00:28:46 a half months back to weed? Oh, no, I didn't see that. Yeah. It was it was just he was just holding a dog walker little little tiny joint. He was like, nice. I have a problem with it. I don't think it's cool. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like it's if you're really a big fan of weed, you you probably wouldn't like post a picture that he's probably just being like hey guys I smoke weed. Yeah, like trying to make it seem like he's a cool guy who smokes but maybe real real leaf heads No, yeah that if you really felt that way you wouldn't need to post about it You would just go spark up a dude. So he might be being like, um, so he he captured it shout out my Word I can't say bud, uh, been along three and a half months. So maybe he's just letting everyone know like you can smoke me out again. Yeah. Like I'm back. Yeah. Like I'm free to join the circle. Yeah. I got no problem with it. No, like from a standpoint of admitting that you smoke weed, I would never do such a thing. He's not a drug guy but
Starting point is 00:29:46 For him no problem with being like I can't wait to smoke weed again. I just question posting it on social media like yeah, why why he He is kind of admitting too that he hadn't been smoking for three and a half months. So that's kind of cool There you go. Good for him. Good job. Good job. DJ shark. So I mean the Chargers season overall, success, even though, by the way, what do we think Justin Herbert's pregame speech was? It must have been terrible, right?
Starting point is 00:30:10 No cameras, we'll never know. No cameras, Ben Herbert, who is by far the best person to keep cameras away, the report was that Justin Herbert has had his pregame speech taped the last three weeks or something, and then this week for the playoff game He had been Herbert make sure there were no cameras near him that had to be a stinky stinky Maybe it was the the dirty cloud. It was a dirty cloud just came out of his mouth. Yeah Oh, yeah, I don't know what he said to him. I like the move though. Just being like no cameras, please
Starting point is 00:30:40 Yeah, the I did see a funny Meme that said that the the draft what what draft was Herbert 2020 2019 2020 they called it the if draft because it's like If to it could stay healthy if Justin Herbert had weapons and like if the Bengals could make it into the playoffs Yeah, so it's all the if guys just hypotheticals everywhere. Yeah, I can see that I I still think that the Chargers They're on the upswing. Yeah, they're in the downswing last year It it's we're gonna get to the Broncos but like there were certain teams going into this I think that the the thing that hurts more for the Chargers
Starting point is 00:31:16 They were favored in this game and and I thought they were gonna win I think a lot of people thought they were gonna win So that hurts a little bit more that you went into a game that you thought was winnable And you just completely fell on your face, but you need you need some weapons Quinn Johnson had zero catches, right? They'll get some weapons. I don't think he had a catch Yeah, so and they know Josh Palmer was was a big one for him So yeah, because he does stretch the field a little bit. They also didn't count on Aaron Foster
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah, Aaron with a great. Yeah, I hope they taped his pregame speech was scared of the cannons. Yeah, you see that class. So that's very funny I saw that those cannons are fucking like they will scare you. Mm-hmm They do the I don't know if it was like the was it just the air cannons before yeah I think it's just intro gunpowder. Yeah If you can handle big T on a weekly basis, you should be able to handle a cannon. Yeah, I'd agree agree. So Do we think that the Texas you you think the Texans really have a chance? I do you love the Texans? Yeah, I'm gonna take a money line, but just don't trick yourself into they want to playoff game That's what you're saying to yourself and the Bengals thing the Bengals thing got in your head Joe Mixon young quarterback
Starting point is 00:32:26 wild-card team Hmm. I just hate the Chiefs do I don't want the Chiefs I Any other team but the Chiefs the Super Bowl I'm fine with and literally any other team and your does not matter who your hatred of The Chiefs comes from a place of being a Patriots fan where you want to keep them as far away from the dynasty that you had as possible Yeah, and I just don't it's not there's not yeah that actually that's yeah You could say I want something new, but that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah I have one last sad charger stat from stat hole In the final 31 minutes of their last two play at playoff game
Starting point is 00:33:00 So like the final 31 minutes of their last playoff game final 31 minutes of Saturday They've been outscored 63 to 9 Yeah, that's tough. That's really bad. That's really really bad. That's not good. That's when you're supposed to win the playoff games That's target half. That's what that yeah, it's it's just they were they were just overwhelmed by the Texans defense and Hank I don't The chiefs are really good. Are they? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:32 They won 15 games, but it could have been 10, but it also could have been 16 if they had played their starters. Rest first rust. Okay. Rest first rust. Okay. I don't have any counter to that. I do like that there's somebody that's brave enough to go out there and be like, the chiefs aren't
Starting point is 00:33:49 very good. I appreciate that about you. The chiefs could lose this game. They are. They're not as good as their record says they are, but they could be better. But the record, the record is exactly what says how good they are. Wait, are you saying they're not as good as their record says they are? They actually should be better. No, I'm saying like, you know, if you if you stacked them up against the other Teams that had similar records of over the course of history like they would be the worst one Hmm, but you also have to remember that that week 18 game was Carson Wentz So they gave that one up. It could be 16. Yeah Could be 16 in one
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah, but they get the extra game. So it doesn't really matter. Okay. In terms of 1515 when they went 15 and one in your head. Yeah. In your record. Right. Yeah. Okay. Um, there's like a curse of 15 win teams. Well, it was all the way back to the, the 1985 bears. Like the 85 bears were the last team, I think to win 15 games and then win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Cause it was it was what the 99 Vikings That sounds right. Yeah, when they lost the NFC Championship game, I mean exactly 15 wins I think there was a year where there might have been no to this year
Starting point is 00:34:56 Might have been another one. Yeah, there hasn't been a ton. Let's see 15 win teams NFL history I know the Vikings the Steelers Steelers lost Big Ben's rookie season if I if I'm correct 2000 so 1998 Vikings lost in the NFC championship game. Yep 2004 Steelers lost in the AFC championship 2011 Packers lost in the NFC divisional 2015 Panthers lost the Super Bowl. Okay. So it has been when seems bad 40 years 15 win teams are bad. Yep. Okay. All right. Maybe I'm with you now Hank. You've swung me. That was some deep analytics. You've got me. That's right. Yeah. Really good teams
Starting point is 00:35:38 are sometimes sometimes don't win the Super Bowl. That happens almost every year shortened it to that. Yeah. All right Saturday night Ravens 28 Steelers 14 This was just an ass-kicking this was an absolute ass-kicking this was a Lamar masterclass this was a Derek Henry masterclass the Ravens Said fuck you to the Steelers. They did fuck you football for four quarters. I know that the Steelers did score twice, but they had 299 rushing yards and It the the first half the game was over
Starting point is 00:36:16 it was it felt over after the Steelers punted on their first possession and the ravens got it on I think the five yard line and went 13 plays 95 yards and In a touchdown that was like, oh no, there's a problem But it was really over on the next time the Ravens scored a touchdown when they went 13 plays 85 yards Every single one of those plays was a run. Mm-hmm Scored a touchdown and then they scored at the end of the first half and it was just like this is This is as bad as it gets the Ravens are just they're just so fucking good Yeah, and Lamar is so good that Lamar touchdown at the end of the first half where he just bought himself
Starting point is 00:36:55 Like 18 seconds at time and found Justice Hill. Yeah, all cool cool Calm and collected back there as everybody was trying to like I don't TJ what? He hasn't been playing that well in the last like two months. And if you're going to beat the Ravens, you have to have TJ do. He has to have like two takeaways on his own. Yeah. He has to have a punch and then he's got to get a strip sack that he recovers. And TJ has, I think in the last month he hasn't, he might not have had a tackle. I think that I saw the stat.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It was like 127 snaps, no tackles, no pressures. Here we go. Last 127 snaps of his 2024 season, zero tackles, zero assists, zero sacks. And what they had him doing on defense was whenever they would run the read option, he would always tackle the ball, crash the running back. Yeah. And that was his job. And it left these huge gaps to the side, which somebody should fill if you're drawing up this defense.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But there were some times where they just didn't fill that gap. And so Lamar just kept it and waltzed. And it was like nobody within five yards of him for most of his run until the very end. It was a very confusing defensive scheme. Derrick Henry's Lightning McQueen, that's what Lamar said afterwards. Oh, I like that. Yeah. He was like, yeah, he looked like Lightning McQueen when he had that 50 yard touchdown
Starting point is 00:38:07 I'm telling you Derrick Henry with a short hair that is championship mentality to take it Like growth of braids that you've been working on for how long ten years? Yeah, I'd be like, you know what fuck it Chop it off. Yeah, I feel like that. That's a good mindset to have. Yeah, and I mean the Ravens are just like a complete that that's a good mindset to have. Yeah and the I mean the Ravens are just like a complete team full full like everything. Their you know their defense we talked about it with Dorlovsky on Friday that you know their their pass defense has been completely changed when Kyle Hamilton moved back and their offense is just I mean Zay Flowers didn't play in this game. They didn't need him. Lamar was was still perfect and he killed him with his legs early, killed like whenever he had to pass he would find someone. It was just it was just a a good
Starting point is 00:38:51 reminder that in the AFC like there are the haves and the have-nots in this in these playoffs and like the the Ravens are the haves like this team is a Super Bowl Championship level team and they do have to play possibly two other teams that are in that level, which is unfortunate, but they're just so good and so complete. Then the Bills would have to beat three Super Bowl championship teams for the Super Bowl this year.
Starting point is 00:39:16 It would be like the hardest Super Bowl road ever for either of those teams. Well, unless the Texans. But then the Texans would technically be a Super Bowl level team if they beat the Chiefs. Yeah, because they beat the Chiefs. But yeah. If that happens, then we will go back and retroactively act like we said what Hank was saying all along. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:29 The Chiefs were the worst 15-win team of all time. Lamar also has the most career rushing yards in the playoffs by a QB. And he's only played I think seven playoff games. That's just how good he is with his feet. And again, it's not like he was he was killing him with his feet feet He was also killing him with his arm. He was just playing a complete game You have to say if you look at the Ravens They are as close to a complete team as you can get with the exception. Maybe they're kicking game Yeah, would you say that they're so good? They're so good right now that Justin Tucker might be their biggest weakness
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah, and they didn't have to kick that's a good spot to be in. Yeah, so we should talk about the Steelers. Mike Tomlin, the Steelers. The Steelers are now eight year playoff drought, playoff win drought, sorry. That is the longest, that's actually double the previous longest in Steelers history since they kind of became the Steelers in 1972 when they were you know starting to win Suit Bowls and stuff. The longest they had gone without a playoff one was four years previously. They are Mike
Starting point is 00:40:34 Tomlin is now so he started his first four years in Pittsburgh he was five and two in the playoffs he's three and nine since. And in the eight year drought, he's 0-6 in the playoffs, and they've given up 230 points. So, Mike Tomlin, bad. He's a great coach. I do think that it probably is time to move on to something different. You think move on from Mike Tomlin?
Starting point is 00:41:05 The Steelers aren't going to do it though. Okay, so I've thought about this. And I went, I was reading articles and stuff last night because I couldn't sleep and I was just like, because I want to understand because from the outside, we've had this conversation, the outside, the low of the Steelers season is getting to the playoffs, which almost every other fan base or a lot of fan base would be like, fuck, sign me up. Like Mike Tomlin never had a losing season. That's what people say. There is a point though, where it feels like the message is getting lost and there isn't growth. And you can point to the fact that they haven't had an answer at quarterback probably since,
Starting point is 00:41:41 you know, the last three years of Ben, Kenny Ben Kenny Russ like they haven't had a Great quarterback, so they haven't been playing at the offensive level you need to play it to win playoff games And I would agree with that, but also They invest everything in their defense, and here's the six game losing streak for the Steelers You ready for this? This is a crazy stat. Before the Steelers scored their first offensive touchdown in these six games that Mike Talman has lost in a row, the Patriots are up 10-0, the Jaguars are up 21-0, the Browns are up 28-0, the Chiefs were up 35-7. Shout out your TJ Watt bet. The Bills were up 21-0. The Ravens were up 21-0. So as much
Starting point is 00:42:28 as you want to say offense, their defense has also failed them in the playoffs and their defense has every single year basically regressed as the season's gone along. And I think I side with the Steelers fans like he's done a great job. You're not saying he's a bad coach but sometimes the message gets lost and you have to change something. You have to shake something up because it's actually almost like a curse to have Mike Tomlin as your coach still because you're never bad enough to pick at the top of the draft to get a franchise quarterback. Yeah. And then you invest in defense and you can't really win like you can't win in today's NFL without an offense.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I think that also their defense, by the time they get to the playoffs with these like just crazy boring substandard offenses, by the time they get there, their defense is sick of having to carry the team. Their defense is exhausted from somehow scrapping together a playoff team. Getting enough wins to get in
Starting point is 00:43:22 that by the time you get there and you have to play against another really good team, then they're, they're just too gassed or too tired from having to do it week in and week out. And you can't. So the other part about Mike Tomlin is you can't say, well, uh, Oh, the offense, uh, stinks because we don't have a quarterback. We don't have this. We don't have that. Mike Tomlin has ultimate power in Pittsburgh. He signs off on every single draft pick He signs off on every coaching hire The other thing I found the rabbit hole I didn't realize this was an argument that goes in Steelers community, which I kind of feel like is a
Starting point is 00:43:58 Fair argument Mike Tomlin Basically has no coaching tree and you'd say well, what the fuck does that matter that like who cares about a coaching tree but it does kind of say that he's hiring older coaches that maybe aren't like he's not he hasn't been cultivating like young innovative guys that are doing things differently like a Ben Johnson or you know like a Sean McPherson or Mike McDaniel or like some of these guys Kyle Shanahan'sDaniel or like some of these guys, Kyle Shanahan's coach, Drew, like some of these guys who are who are just spitting out young innovators of the game. Mike Tomlin has not done that essentially for his entire, like I looked at
Starting point is 00:44:35 it. Bruce Arians is kind of the only one you could throw out there and he already was on staff under Bill Cower. So it's like, I think there's a like his way is an old-school way that I think might be outdated and Is hurting the Steelers and they have to figure out a way to move on from him. He does love old guys He loves old guys dick LeBeau was his defense coordinator for it felt like decades, right? So that's part of the like he hasn't but he also goes out and he gets all he right he imports old guys So like Danny Smith their special teams coach that's always chewing on gum on the sidelines brought him in Todd Haley after he got fired By the Chiefs Arthur Smith. Yeah, like great coach great coach but like he he gets guys and they it's not like Todd Haley didn't go in and
Starting point is 00:45:19 He didn't go to Pittsburgh and then go off and be like in cry. I think he's coaching high school football now I know he went to Cleveland for a stop Matt Canada like where is where is he? I don't even know some different country Yeah, I don't know. So I I It's a hard it's like a hard one to figure out because again, you don't want to Mike Tomlin will get a job right away somewhere else, you know, you know what really happened though If you look at the stats, the defense has been very, very good for the Steelers in the playoffs until a certain event happened. And then their playoff defense was permanently
Starting point is 00:45:53 broken. What was that? That event was the 2017 playoffs. Yeah, Blake Bortles hung 45 on him. Yeah. They lost 4542, which it wasn't that close. It wasn't that close. That was a lot of garbage time. It was a lot of, yeah. It was a backdoor 42 is what they got. So they gave up 45 points. In the previous playoff, they gave up 12 points, 16 points.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And then the New England Patriots in 2016 put 36 on them. That's forgivable. Yeah. But their defense was still legit at that point. Then 45 points. then in 2020 they gave up 48 then 42 then 31 and now 28 this was actually the the least amount of points that the Steelers have given up in a playoff game since 2017 excuse me 2016 yeah their last playoff win. Yeah. Yeah, Blake Bortles broke them.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Blake Bortles broke them. I just, again, I don't know why I thought about it for so long last night, but you see this sometimes where a coach will get fired, it's not because he's like bad, it's because the message and like you're kind of going in the same direction over and over. You know what I mean? Like you're just not progressing forward and you're kind of going in the same direction over and over you know what I mean like you're not
Starting point is 00:47:05 You're just not progressing forward, and you're kind of stuck in this rut, and that's what the Steelers feel like right now. It's not Saying oh Mike Thomas never had a losing season, and if he got fired tomorrow. He would have a job the next day I I don't disagree with you those statements, but it's just not working anymore Mm-hmm, and what are the what's the fix to re-sign Russ? I don't think so. I don't know. He did not look good. He did not. No. He had that nice deep ball to Georgie. Besides that, not a lot. Justin Fields, I don't think he's the long-term answer.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Right. We can do Aaron Rodgers, which is another one-year fix, like Band-Aid. Coach Gruden was saying he would take Daniel Jones Daniel Jones would be intriguing just because his point was like if you look at all the other players that the Giants have gotten rid of Are not brought back. They all go somewhere else and play very well. Yeah, he spent so much time in such a great room Yeah, yeah, he's in a great Kevin O'Connell talked about that room. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So the year would you would you what would you and obviously? about that room. Yeah. So the year would you would you what would you and obviously Mike Tomlin is not going to get fired and he also is not going to get traded because there's a no trade clause. Yeah. So if if he if he wanted to get like he would never allow himself to get traded because he could just be like why would I go somewhere and give up draft capital why wouldn't I just quit and then just go pick my next job? Okay, so I think I have an idea for what they could do. How much does it cost to trade for
Starting point is 00:48:29 the franchise tag? Is it two first rounders? I believe so. That's almost the perfect situation if you're the Steelers because you're always picking in the mid to late teens. Right. So you're never going to be in a position where you can draft a quarterback with Mike Tomlin. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Where a lot of teams, if they are in the midst of what they feel like is a rut they're usually one of the worst teams in the league. So that's not an option for the Steelers. Two like 18 overall picks or 17 overall picks for Sam Darnold. I think I might do that if the Vikings tag him. Oh Yeah, but then and Sam Darn Donald's not with Kevin O'Connell anymore do you have a better idea I don't I don't I don't the best one I can
Starting point is 00:49:12 come up with is if he gets tagged trade for Sam Donald I think Arthur Smith can get something good out of Sam I I do too I honestly think they'll the fix in my tolerance coming back so this is all kind of we're just it's gonna be a hot topic But I think she after even reported like his job's not in jeopardy Like the Steelers should figure out a way to move on and suck for a year or two You know what I mean? like they're kind they're in this no-man's land where they're just good enough to make the playoffs and they're not gonna get a Franchise quarterback and they're just gonna keep spinning the wheels right now like they they weren't close in this game
Starting point is 00:49:48 No, and like that was and you could make the case for the Chargers or the Broncos like they have young quarterbacks They're building something they're on the ascent here like they're gonna Maybe hopefully get to that top level of the AFC the Steelers are not on the ascent. They're in the same spot They've been every year. Mm-hmm. Well, you see they don't show any signs of growth George Pickens would disagree with you Yeah, he said he's seen signs of growth from the offense and then the reporter asked him Does that make you optimistic going forward and he said nah, nah, that's good It's good to acknowledge that growth is not always good. Yeah Sometimes it's okay to not grow. Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:23 Also, I saw a stat stealers last lead was December 8th Mmm, so last five games. They didn't have a single lead in the game over a month Yeah, five games played not a single lead. Yeah, it's hard. I just don't Do you think Russ is what like what's gonna happen to us? He's probably gonna show up to the facility and give everybody pep talk Yeah Like what's gonna happen to us? He's probably gonna show up to the facility and give everybody pep talk Yeah, that was funny last night when he was he was doing a pep talk and Jerry was just like yeah That guy doesn't even play. Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:51 but I he's He's done, right? I think so I don't know why you would pay Russ Wilson what Russell Wilson thinks he should be paid, right? Maybe you pay him and you're like maybe you pay him 1 million dollars And you're like for every pass you complete over the middle of the field would give you another million dollars. Yeah. It's like, so you could earn up to $5 million this year. Yeah. Incentives for just not, not talking to people at practice. Yeah. You got to get
Starting point is 00:51:20 creative. There's no good solution for him. And again, it feels kind of weird to feel bad for a franchise or feel bad for fans of a franchise that are perennially in the playoffs. They have six Super Bowls. Six Super Bowls. But I understand the frustration. Right. I totally get it. You were just stuck in absolute purgatory, which is kind of hard to do in the NFL. Like it happens in the NBA. It can happen in other sports. It's hard., in the NFL, you're kind of either good or bad. They're just right in the middle. And also Steelers fans kind of saw this coming in late September.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Oh yeah. Like you knew exactly how the rest of the season was gonna play out. Yeah, yeah. And it's, and it had just enough intrigue this year where you had like a four and two starter in Justin Fields. You'd be like, what is he doing? And then you ripped off all those wins.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And then you didn't, you haven't led since December 8 We did give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin for making that change. Yeah, which took some balls. He's a very good coach Yeah, I just don't think that it's working anymore in Pittsburgh Yeah, and and Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches and I think he just signed an extension last year. So they're not gonna fire him but yeah, I I Thought about it a lot because I feel like Steelers fans This is going to be the talk in Pittsburgh So I wanted to give at least a little hat tip to like discussing what? Everyone's gonna be talking about in Pittsburgh. But yeah, the Ravens are just they're on a different level
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, they play that game a hundred times Ravens win a hundred time Ravens are insane. They can do anything they want on offense Yeah, even without say flowers. Yeah And I'm so excited for that matchup next week that I I'm very excited too But I've never been more confused about a game like how it's gonna shake out. I have no idea Yeah, we were talking about just not even betting the game just rooting for football. Yeah, just enjoying it It's gonna be enjoy. I think I'll probably end up betting for touchdown scores on each team Yeah, just having fun having a good time watching the game. I'm gonna bet on the boys Yeah, also the Ravens only had three penalties
Starting point is 00:53:06 Which that's significant because it looks like they can they can play buttoned up is a flowers gonna come back for this game I don't know. I read a report last week saying that if he doesn't play this game He should be back in time for the next round, but I don't know. I don't think I don't think they really know either Okay. Um, all alright, let's take a Right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean this is the right The Ravens like this is gonna be the Bills Chiefs and Ravens all three of those teams have Super Bowl contending teams and Only one of them is gonna make it out. Whoever wins that game has to beat the Texans
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah, yeah, you're right. Well, they'll have a whole plan. If somehow the Chiefs can win. If the Chiefs can pull an upset on the Texans, then I guess you have to beat the Chiefs. Yeah. But they have to. They have to. They have to. Okay. Let's take a break and then we'll get to Sunday's game. Okay. Before we get to Sunday's games, we're brought to you by our friends at Apple. The mind bending office thriller Severance returns to Apple TV plus for a new season on January 17th created by Ben Stiller and Dan Erickson. The all star cast is back with some exciting new additions. Severance focuses on the employees of Illumin Industries, which uses a procedure called Severance surgically dividing their memories between their work and personal lives Coming off the explosive season one finale mark played by Adam Scott dives deeper into the mysteries of what Lumen is up to Do they know what really happened to his wife Gemma?
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Starting point is 00:56:30 rare how rare is that I I usually care a lot about score gummies that's my bad mm-hmm that's my bad very cool uh bills 31 Broncos 7 yeah the the Broncos for the first five minutes you're like watch out and then we were reminded that the bills are the bills and they're just better Mm-hmm, and I think we need to start respecting Khalil Shakir a little bit more. Yeah, cuz he I love him He is a top-tier wide receiver. He doesn't get talked about like he is because his name wasn't Stefan Diggs Yeah, and he didn't have the media attention all around him But he can play. Yeah, whether he's returning a kick out of the slot on the outside, he's a problem for defenses. Yeah, he's very, very good. And this,
Starting point is 00:57:13 this game was like, uh, the Broncos defense played pretty well in the first half cause they held them out of the ends. I mean, they, I think they scored one touchdown, but they, they were, they staged like tough in the red zone. And then the second half started and Josh Allen was like yeah, you know what? I'm gonna do I'm we're gonna run the ball down your throat And then if I ever need to make an incredible throw, I'll just do that I can do it is that done it that throw to Ty Johnson was so insane Yeah, he was just running around scrambling didn't Didn't look like anything was going to be open.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Throws to the back of the end zone, and he catches it with his knee on the ground before his feet hit. It was insane, but you expect that type of stuff out of Josh. The one to Dalton Kincade. Also, going into halftime, the Broncos were kicking a field goal to tie the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:00 That's wild when you think about the second half and how lopsided it was to think back to that moment Like if that it wasn't 38 yarder. Yeah, something like oh, it's a little longer than that. I believe yeah, so It was a it was a very makeable kick. It was it was a very loud doink that he let out Yeah, if he had made that kick 1010 into halftime second half probably turns out the same way But just kind of weird to think that they played him to a tie at halftime It's a 50 yard or 10 10 is out of bounds on that fourth and one like it's a game It would have been a completely different game. Yeah, like but I so here orders a lot
Starting point is 00:58:34 Like you know what it was he hit it up so high on yeah, right? That's just kickers man. Here's what I didn't understand about this game. So First of all, the Bills offensive line is just monsters because they just ran it down the Broncos through like rent, like over and over James Cook. I think he had 70, 80 yards in the first half. Um, what I didn't understand about this game is I feel like Sean Payton started the game the correct way being like, Hey, we're over a touchdown underdogs in Buffalo. Like Josh Allen if he's on he's gonna score they're gonna score every single time. We got
Starting point is 00:59:09 steal possessions, we got to play aggressive and like you saw it with the you know the Bo'Nicks touchdown deep shot. You saw it with the fake punt which was a great call, perfect call. And then the second half started and the Bills scored a touchdown I believe to start the second half started and the Bills scored a touchdown, I believe, to start the second half. And then the Broncos went run run pass punt. And then the Bills scored another touchdown and they went run run pass punt. Like they just got, they kind of got a little conservative. They didn't let Bo Nicks just rip it. It was a little Kirk Cignetti like, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah, it was just, it was weird. I thought that I thought they were going to really embrace the role of underdog and be like we have to do some crazy shit to have a chance in this game because you know like the Broncos are not as good as the Bills. If you play them straight up the Bills will win. I thought Sean Pate was doing that in the second half. I felt like he just abandoned that. Yeah, they only had two sacks for the Broncos. If they were going to have a chance at this game, they were going to have to take Josh down way more than that. Yeah they only had two sacks for the Broncos if they were gonna have a chance at this game they were gonna have to take Josh down way more than that and yeah the offensive line for the Bills at one point our friend Rudy who is I don't know if he is he a Denver native? Yeah. He is Colorado. Yeah. He is Colorado as it gets. He was just like national champion. Yeah he was like
Starting point is 01:00:19 the Bills are their offensive line is just so heavy. Yeah. And he was right. They were mauling them. They just leaned on him. Dawkins was just bowling people over. At one point, Dawkins like picked up James Cook and dragged him for a first down on his own. I think he also like put one of the defenders, the Broncos defenders out for the game, but just like hitting him hard. Yeah. Hit him hard in the shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. Knocked him out. Look like he separated his shoulder. The bills also looked like a very complete team Yes, very much. So, I mean they're their defense still a question mark But they they answered the question mark at least against the Broncos and they finally threw the ball downfield to Curtis Samuel Yeah, Curtis him had a 55 yard touchdown. Yeah. Yeah, they did it all they they played much like the Ravens
Starting point is 01:01:00 This was like a tune-up game for the bills verse Ravens because it was even though it felt close in the first half That second half was just an absolute demolition and it was it was never close in the second The thing I'll say nice about the Broncos. Obviously, this is free money. This game was like, oh, yeah I got some nice things great season for the Broncos. Yeah, you're very happy if you're a Broncos fan You probably would have liked to make this more competitive or win the game, obviously. But you're happy. This is a good season for you. I think they have the most dead cap in NFL history. $85 million. So that's Russ Wilson.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yep. That's the contract that you, correct me, decided to cut your losses and move on from. And with Bo Nicks, with Bo Nicks and Cortland Sutton together, if you're putting together like an NBA Jam team, where you can only have two guys out there on offense. Yeah. That's one of the better combos. That's a fun one.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Cause Cortland Sutton is really, really good. And Bo Nix obviously, he's gonna be a great quarterback. Although I did see, I saw something in one of the pregame shows where they were talking about Sean Payton's offense and how complicated it is to learn for a quarterback. And some of his play calls are like they take seven or eight seconds to say out loud that's got to suck
Starting point is 01:02:10 if you're a quarterback in that system. Yeah. Like how much time do you have to spend just memorandum and paying attention? But Bo Nicks is professional. He's got his book back. That's true. He's ready to go. The yeah, Sean Peyton's halftime speech was or halftime interview was where I was like,
Starting point is 01:02:24 oh, this game is over because he came out I was like, oh, this game is over, because he came out and was like, we gotta control the ball more, we gotta just control the ball. It's like, no, you gotta score points. That's kind of the vibe with them. It's like, we're gonna try to run the football. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:36 We're gonna put forth our best foot and try to run the football, but they just weren't able to. Also, credit to Bills for, the report came out before the game that they deliberately were putting Vaughn Miller on a snap count in the regular season so they'd be fresh for the playoffs. That showed. Full circle. Yeah that showed full circle. Yeah. No but the Broncos I like you obviously you're upset if you're a Broncos
Starting point is 01:03:00 fan but in a weird way like this loss it's not a good loss because you lost the playoffs, but you got your asses kicked and it's like you're the second youngest roster in the NFL. You had $85 million in dead cap. Similar to the Chargers, you did not think you were going to be a playoff team this year. And the bills, there's levels to this. Like the bills are on a different level as a football team. You're trying to get to that level. You got your rookie quarterback start in the playoffs. Like everything in this Broncos season was a win outside of today, but like long term, this was a great, great season that you'll hopefully look back on and be like, that was
Starting point is 01:03:41 the start of something special. You have a super, a ton of young guys played all year. You got like the dead cat money is going to get fixed and you got your quarterback. That's awesome. Great season. Like great, great season. I'd say, is this an A, A plus season? I'd say it's A. Should we grade seasons? I think it's an A. I think it's an A season. I think it's an A season. I would say an A minus season for the Chargers. I would agree. I would agree because you were favorites and you lost that game Yep, also I I don't want to be the uniform police, but I hated the Broncos uniforms Yeah, go with the classics
Starting point is 01:04:14 Just go like it drives me insane the Broncos have some of the nicest uniforms in the entire NFL Like they they have uniforms that they can put out there that are like make you feel nostalgic about life. Yeah. Go with those. Go with the all whites and the blue helmet. Yeah. I don't like the orange pants. The orange pants just look ridiculous. We say you don't want to be uniformed police. Yes you do. Yeah I want to be. Well I saw the uniforms like they got no chance. I'm like the guy that buys that light at the hardware store and puts it in my car so I can pretend I'm a cop Yeah, I do want to be the uniform police and I I've said this before like when I went on my rant about the Packers whatever snow white uniforms and princess uniforms I
Starting point is 01:04:54 I hold Teams with history to a different standard So it's almost a compliment like I think the Broncos have a incredible franchise history and have incredible uniforms in their bag. I hold you to a different standard. I want you to bring the to the playoffs. I want you to bring the best uniform. Yeah. Like if the Jaguars were in the playoffs, don't care where whatever goofy shit you want to wear. The Rams and Chargers can wear whatever the fuck they want. Yeah. Because I know that they have like a million different even the Seahawks, like they do weird uniforms. Who cares? That's fun. The Broncos like that's John Elway. You got to there's classic playoff games that you can look up the footage to
Starting point is 01:05:31 That's what I want to see when I watch the Broncos in the playoffs Maybe Sean Payton went with these uniforms because he knew he was gonna lose and he didn't want to add Yeah, Sully the legacy of the great Denver uniforms with a loss. That's a great point. So he is protecting the brand So when the Broncos bring out their classic uniforms, we know that they have a real team. Yes. That's how you know. Yeah. We always think, Oh, I feel like they always winning these uniforms. Well, it's because their coach knows that they're better when they wear them. Yeah. So yeah, Max just pulled up. Uh, I think it's the 91 AFC championship game and the Broncos are wearing the all whites with the blue helmets. I do like, I also like
Starting point is 01:06:04 these bills throwbacks with the red the red helmet. Yeah Also, shout out that one guy in Bill's Mafia that was in the end zone Sport coat big belly hanging over giant twisted tee in his hand and the buffalo wing necklace at the top hat That was just like Bill's Mafia just still down to King human being. Yeah, King Bill's Mafia Hank, what'd you think about this game? Don? I know you talked yourself into the Broncos The Broncos like they like you said the fake punt worked, but they didn't make anything out of it They missed the field goal to tie it up at halftime if they you know got some points there Tied it up at halftime and then that fourth and one like they got there was a great play by Josh
Starting point is 01:06:43 But it was you know inches away. Oh, yeah incomplete Yeah, like as much as it was a blowout like the Broncos were also very much. They were alive in that game Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were just getting run on though like I still think they would have won but like I think a Couple plays could have made it closer. Yeah, I'd agree with that I just think the Bills are just again on like there's three teams in the AFC They're on a different level. It's the the Bills the Ravens and the Texans those three teams Those teams are just playing at a different level come January. Yep. Everyone else is just hoping to win a playoff game
Starting point is 01:07:17 I can't wait for the Bills Ravens game. It's I'm so I I'm so happy It's the last game to on I feel like that's Sunday or yeah That Sunday late spot divisional round is always I feel like that's always the big big game This is when it's like officially officially playoffs like that's a game you'll think about all week Yeah, every day this week. Yes, and you know what I said it when it was when is lion I mean when is bills raven when the when the bills went up 28 7 I was like this is why we watch sports for the Bills Ravens
Starting point is 01:07:44 This is why we put in the hours is why we lift the weights. This is why you like are maybe from the outside world looked at as somewhat pathetic like the people who were trashing Tate and Titus and saying they weren't men because they were celebrating Ohio State and Jack Sawyer. Yeah, instead of instead of watching sports You should be out there participating in mutual combat. Yeah that guy He doesn't have bills ravens in his life. He doesn't and you know what this game you read that This is crazy because like it was just a very it was a pretty normal like gambling cave clip. I thought it was very funny Yeah, let me read it. I I think I bookmarked a couple of them because there was a couple This is a game that you're gonna have to be prepared for you're gonna have to be ready as a fan
Starting point is 01:08:27 Even if you don't if you're not a fan specifically of the Ravens or the Bills, you got to bring your a game to watch this game. Yeah. All right. So there was one person who said there was two of them. It was Titan Titus after the Jack Sawyer like fumble recovery touchdown. They were just celebrating and like dry humping the air. Yeah. Yeah, scroll up pretty pretty standard Yeah, so this person I mean these guys are actually these guys. I assume these guys are just like Andrew Tate like Jason I said it is utterly embarrassing how men have become bystanders of fake combat instead of active martial Participants it is a very funny clip state is just dry humping a football. Who is this guy Arthur Kwan Lee? Yeah, then there was another guy
Starting point is 01:09:09 Z rebirth 369 said gay shit I've ever seen whole country is dying and they only feel passion when watching men touch each other. Hmm. Good point What what guys can't watch sports anymore? They're not what the fuck? They're kind of boys touching each other like what the hell Wait, since when it was in it. When is it wrong to watch sports with your boys? It's not and guess what those two guys they think we're losers You don't have bills Ravens to look forward to and I'm banning both of those guys from watching bills Ravens And I would also like to know when they thought that the country was great because there's always been sports
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah, bread and circus always been sports. So and it's the Romans. You know, what is dated sports? It's a hell of a circus Yeah, it's a great sir. I love the guess what the circus makes us forget all our problems This is gonna be it works. It's gonna be such a circus coming to town this weekend We literally do bread and circus in this office Every single Sunday where they just throw food at us and we watch sports and we forget all the world's problems. And it's the best existence and I think a lot of people listening right now do the same thing every Sunday. Entertainment and carbs? Yeah. Bad? Oh no, but then you won't be thinking about how bad everything is.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah. Yeah that's the point. That's literally the point. Yeah. How about instead of worrying about whether or not a guy is going to cross an imaginary line on a field you focus on real issues like immigration. Yeah. Hey, you guys watch three hours of a football game. Well, I thought long and hard about Ukraine. Yeah. Who's who had a better Sunday? Me. I did. I had a great weekend. Yeah, I had a lot better of a Sunday. Okay, anything else for Bill's Broncos? Broncos get better uniforms. Demar should not have celebrated the interception. He knew that he didn't pick it off. I don't know if he did because he looked shocked when they overturned it. Yeah. He had that face
Starting point is 01:11:04 where he was like, what? That's true. I always looked shocked when they overturned it. Yeah, he had that face. He's like what that's true I always wonder that when they go to like a replay It's a bang bang play where a guy traps the ball off the ground a little bit in the moment if you're diving on The ground do you know that you yeah look at look at his face. He did not he thought he caught it Yeah, he also that's a total non story if it's anyone but tomorrow, correct tomorrow gets Tomorrow gets clown. I got a question for you about the wind. Which is crazy. When did when did tomorrow become like a joke because he died? I don't know. Cause it was a pretty incredible story. What happened
Starting point is 01:11:35 to him? Correct. But it happened in the last like maybe year. No, I mean people were doing the clone shit like right away, but that was different. Some people actually thought it was a clone. Yeah, Billy, uh, that was different. That was like, there's fucked up shit. They're not telling us. Now it's like people, it feels like there's some people that are actively rooting against the Mar just because he almost died on a football field. Yeah. No, they hate him. Yeah. It's very bizarre. I've noticed the same thing. Do you think it was a fake punt? It might have been the fake. That fake punt was. It might have been the fake. That was a funny because it felt like they were doing the fake punt for the spotlight on. Yeah. Thank you for coming back tomorrow. And like not only take the whole fact that he almost died on a football field. He was a fringe player, special teams player that has worked his way into the starting rotation like that should be applauded And I think his whole mission is to put the Fibrillators in in schools really like mission everywhere if you have kids You should be a pro demar guy. Yeah, we're gonna say something max. You don't like tomorrow
Starting point is 01:12:41 No, I just wanted to show you I I like tomorrow. Okay, you like tomorrow, I just wanted to show you. I like tomorrow. Oh, okay, you like tomorrow. I just wanted to show the ref Josh Allen. Oh yeah, yeah. So did you hear afterwards? So there was a red zone trip where the Bills, there was definitely a hold that they missed
Starting point is 01:13:01 and Josh Allen yelled at the refs. So there was a clip coming out of the commercial where was it Bill Vinovich, uh, went up to Josh Allen, went to the sideline to talk to him. And obviously everyone was like, I cannot believe the ref is apologizing to Josh Allen. Josh Allen after the game said, that's not what was happening. The ref came up to him to tell him, hey, stop yelling
Starting point is 01:13:25 at us. Like we miss calls. If you keep yelling at us, like it's not going to fix anything. I think it was the the mutual hand touching and then the pat on the head. It was they gave each other a side hug. So the conversation was not, hey, I'm sorry, Josh, we'll get you on the next one. It was, hey, Josh, could you stop being an asshole to us, I guess. So that that totally changes it. How many wait, did the imagine if Patrick Mahomes did this, the media would go nuts. Did that become a big thing? Yeah, I think that was driven. Yeah, by a lot of I do like, it becomes a real rivalry.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Like when the chiefs and the bills imagine the outrage on the Sabbath, they showed a ref touching patch for homes the way they did just now With Josh Allen, that's when you know and I know the Bills haven't beaten the Chiefs in the playoffs So you like rivalry I put in quotes here, but like chiefs fans hate Bills fans Yeah, and Bills fans hate chiefs fans because they're gonna use this clip to fight a turf war Between Josh Allen and which they should you know what? This is ammunition for that war This is ammunition for the picture of Patrick Mahomes kissing the the ref on the lips Which I'm still not sure if that's real or not. No, that's really it looks very real
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah, so whenever that gets posted now, they have instant comeback. Yeah. Yeah, like look at this and this is realer Yeah, this actually happened some would say yeah Good good job producing max. We forgot to mention that people would have bad. That was memes. Oh memes Meem's take a victory lap. What do you want to say? I would like to thank myself. Oh wait wait hold on hold on hold on Memes is what is one of the turf war guys You were pissed that the ref was going up to him. Oh As a jet span yeah
Starting point is 01:15:09 was going up to him. Oh as a Jets fan? Yeah! Now it makes sense! Yeah, you were saying to show the Josh Allen thing, not knowing that Big Cat was going to say, oh Josh said that the ref was saying stop yelling at me or I'm going to get penalized. Yeah. No, that's not it. Cheese fans are getting mad at me because I tweeted out the ref apologizes to Josh Allen, hashtag some things oh they were saying very mean things I thought you were you were on the side of the cheese fans there Oh fuck we forgot to mention the bolt man, which I think was of it's a fake. It's a fake bolt man It's like tomorrow. That's that's the worst that was partially why the Chargers lost. Yeah, that that's that looks like oh you you maxed bolt man Yeah, and then somebody somebody took it and it went viral oh I love it this fake Boltman looks like drill
Starting point is 01:15:51 Yeah, that's not Boltman. No, it's not he so I think both the original Boltman sold his Boltman for like 50k. Yeah, cuz he was so sick that they left San Diego All right Eagles 22 Packers 10. Maxi ugly game. Rust quarterback had some rust that he had to work out. Defense was phenomenal. Defense was very good. Jordan loves stinks.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Yep. A lot of press, a lot of pressure from that D lineline, made the quarterback look not so great. Defense was really, really good. Both lines were really, really good. Saquon was really, really good. Some things to work on for next week, but you'll take that win 10 times out of 10. Are you concerned with the play calling? I'm concerned with a win.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Oh, okay. I was just asking if you were. It sounds like you're a little touchy about that question yeah that was a little touchy. A normal answer that would be no I thought I thought Kellen Moore did a great job. Yeah no I'm not worried your answer tells me that you might be a little bit worried you got very defensive there. I mean it was Eagles won 22 to 10 I don't think there I don't think it was a one score game at any no, I'm not until the listen like I
Starting point is 01:17:08 Play going it was definitely a one score game. I think the Eagles were 100% I think they're a very very very good team I think they could win this one sure game with the Packers have but you are getting very defensive about a simple question max Well, it was like the Eagles just dominated that game and then immediately like and so are you worried about the play calling of killing more in the foot of the Eagles I'm asking that because they were the fucking bucks what a buck should shut the shit on their pants in the fourth quarter I know but you know I mean just dominated the game and you're and your immediate just what do you think about the play calling? I
Starting point is 01:17:47 I'll tell you what max I'm gonna defend you here. We talk about the previous three games I don't think you have any problem with the play calling judging by this reaction. No, no problem That's my answer That's how that sounded exactly like a guy who has no issues That's totally that sounded exactly like a guy who has no issues with the play calling. He just went straight to the commanders. Uh, no, I mean you guys, you, you dominated that game. It got like, there was, there was a little bit of a chargers vibe in the first half where everything went perfect and you were only up 10, especially with like the fumble on the opening kickoff and a touchdown four plays later
Starting point is 01:18:28 and you're like, Oh, this is gonna be easy. And then you did you struggled. The offense did struggle for the first half. Jalen hurts looked like he was still concussed a little bit. But they made some big plays in the second half and it was never a doubt. You're right. They never the Packers never had the ball down one possession Yeah, no, there was never like oh shit This is a drive where we could give up the lead and that and it's always a little bit more comfortable watching a game
Starting point is 01:18:55 That way. Yeah, so I'm happy with the way that it turned out. There's one if I'm being honest. There's one thing that I'm concerned about and that's the kicker Yeah, the kicker is a big issue. Yeah, Hank has a question. No continue if you What's no? I know I would I would like I I'm more interested in what you have to say loser talk question of the show Because you just said they never had the ball down one possession You said it was nice to watch kind of of easy game. You tweeted in the middle of the game, we're gonna lose this game. Oh.
Starting point is 01:19:28 But yeah. That's good, good producer. Yeah, yeah. That's investigative journalism by Henry Lockwood there. Thank you for your talk. Correct, but inside the lines, I'm not accountable for what I say. Okay, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Now all the great ones say that. You just can't, you can't. No, no, no, no, I, no. Why did you think that? Because I am an anxious, I am, I think the world's wrong. You're a loser. We won. But that was you. What made you say that?
Starting point is 01:19:54 Yeah. I think it was Jake Kelly, I think it was probably after the extra point, because that's like such a thing that happens, like you miss an extra point and it comes back to bite you in the ass. Yeah. The injuries, not great today Nikobe dean that that's bad. That's the only injury, but it's really bad. It's late. Totally good. They they came back in the game Yeah, I know he came back in
Starting point is 01:20:16 I mean, I assume if he came back in the game that he'll be playing next week. Yeah, I uh in terms of packers playoff losses, this one didn't scratch the itch as much because Like one I didn't think they were that good because they lost to the Bears who were not good So I was like well, they're not very good and then to Every Packers player got injured. So that's and I'm not saying like It's an excuse that I actually believe like I don't know if the package would ever won that game but like they had a moment where their top three wide receivers weren't playing anymore and their best offensive lineman so it's like I kind of got robbed and then that feel of that like feeling of like haha
Starting point is 01:20:56 yeah because it was like yeah your whole team just got injured yeah and then when they were driving with the ball I think they threw a pass their fifth string wide receiver didn't put his feet in bound. Right. And yeah, that was kind of the moment where I was like, I really want to be enjoying this, but it's like, they don't have literally anyone left. Yeah. Like if that was Romeo Dobbs that did that or Christian Watson that did that, you could be like, ha ha losers. Right. But now it's like, this is kind of what you expect. Or if the Packers were healthy and they like just barely lost, they're like, wow, we could have gone on a run. Like I think Packers fans probably watching that game watching everyone get hurt
Starting point is 01:21:28 They're like if we have to play the next weekends lines were fucked. Yeah, like that they just were ripped apart with injuries I do think Jordan love is like I For everyone's like oh, he's the next in line like I I don't I don't see it. He's good He's not his picks were pretty bad today. Yeah, he's not he doesn't oh, he's the next in line. Like I don't see it. He's good. His picks were pretty bad today. Yeah, he's not, he doesn't, I know he's still young. He's like 32 or something.
Starting point is 01:21:52 But he's, and I know it's only his second year, but it's not like he's, he had a really awesome eight year, eight game stretch last year. Got paid $55 million. He was okay this year through a lot of interceptions. He had a good stretch at end of the season as well, but I I don't think he's like some do you guys? Agree like do you think he's? Like gonna right now would you say Jordan loves gonna be like a top three top five? Here's what about you. That's what Rogers and far. Yeah
Starting point is 01:22:19 Here's what I would say is on the broadcast when they talk about the passing of the torch and they say first It was far then it went to Rogers now it's on love I don't think that one of those three is like the other or whether right yeah like the other dragon meme exactly but I think he's a good quarterback yeah he could get better and this could all look really stupid by me but it's not so far I'm not like holy shit this guy's insane I think he's a good I think he's a good quarterback. Yeah, he's a good quarterback Yeah, which is good about that's following to Hall of Fame and that's a great thing to have Yeah
Starting point is 01:22:49 also as much as I want to relish in the Packers loss which I am very happy that you you beat them max because again, it was a little different this year because I I think I said it two weeks ago where I was like I don't think they're a problem anymore. Like I just did they didn't beat any really good teams this year. They went they lost twice to the Vikings They lost twice to the Lions pretty much lost twice to the Bears. It's pretty much lost twice to the Bears They like they were always like they they were just not in that if we're going levels again They were never in that upper level of the NFC But they are and it hurts to say they are the youngest roster in the NFL. And I do think like knowing how the Packers run as an organization, they'll
Starting point is 01:23:30 probably be really good. And you've got a great head coach, Matt LaFleur is an awesome head coach. Yeah. And Josh Jacobs, great running back. I love watching that guy play. That was a big boy run. Love what, there were a couple of big boy runs in this game. Dallas Goddard. That one, at at one point Josh Jacobs dragged a defender I think like five yards the ground who was grabbing on the back of his shirt, which somehow didn't rip It just stretched for like five yards. Yeah That is that's a dude. Yeah Yeah, like I want to I want to be happy with the injuries and the fact that the Packers are so young
Starting point is 01:24:00 Like the end of Rogers was fun because it was like he's he's getting older and older and older and the windows closing. I I know how the Packers run their organization. I'm sure they're fucking gonna nail their draft picks and all the receivers are gonna end up being awesome and come back and it's gonna be like fuck. Yeah. And everything I just said about Jordan loves gonna be wrong. Are they gonna start drafting wide receivers in the first round like all the time now for Jordan Love? That'd be very funny. It would be.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah, I've seen some like weird, like Matt LaFleur's should be fine. Like that's the dumbest thing ever. I actually think that Jordan Love, if you didn't have Matt LaFleur would probably be struggling more. Yeah, imagine Malik Willis without Matt LaFleur. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Max, another question for you. AJ Green. Brown. AJ Brown. Different color. Reading a book on the sidelines. What book was it and why was he reading it? It was a motivational book. I will pull it up.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I will pull up his tweet because he addressed it via X, the Everything app. Everything happens on X. He is the media. He is the media. He is the media. I am struggling to find his Twitter. Uh, what the fuck is some some Oh, there it is. Wait, no, this isn't it. I'm gonna find it. Yeah, Inter Excellence achieve extraordinary business success through mental toughness. And he says he reads it. What are you looking for? He's like His quote. Yeah about it Way farther into a book than the broad Evers been
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's a fact, right? I'm enjoying max that I mean, I why can't I find his fucking Twitter? This is bad memes. Do you want to help 1k It's 1k always open. Yeah, I know that memes memes and hanker. This is a fake one though I'm also enjoying it's a it's a good thing that you're struggling this much because like if Would you like me to read it for you? I did you find it? I'd be worried if you weren't struggling this bad I'd be like man. This guy might be worried about play calling. Yeah, it's a good point, but it's clear that You're not worried about play calling because you're not flustered at all through this whole Packers Eagles recap got it. Okay, all right You're ready ready yeah, this game is 90% mental and 10% physical for me I bring it to every game and I read it between each drive
Starting point is 01:26:20 I use it to refocus and lock in despite what may transpire in the game good or bad people tend to create controversy when they don't know the truth can I have a question question when he said good or bad which one do you think it was today good they won the game but you do you think edge of brown was having a good time today? Yeah, they won. They won a playoff game. Okay You think you have a good time with the play calling? Yeah, no, I he's probably he looks like happy in this postgame interview, I don't know what he's saying But he looks happy. He doesn't look mad. Mm-hmm. So yeah, no, it was good. So you Three targets for AJ Brown one One catch, 10 yards.
Starting point is 01:27:06 One win. Okay. Do you think it's always this book? It says that it's this book. It says it very, so he's been written as well. I mean this book, that doesn't look like a Lebron book. That's a well-worn book. Yeah, we need a, we need a, we need a book report from you on this.
Starting point is 01:27:21 He also has highlighted passages, underlined passages. He really loves this book, but I'm just wondering if he was, if he had a hundred yards and a touchdown and Kelly Moore was just calling a great game and all that stuff. Do you think he goes to the book? Yeah, no. Or do you think he like high fives and like, he probably goes to the therapy and like they, that's not what I asked. I don't know I wasn't really paying attention. I was reading the quotes. All right, I'll ask the question again and then maybe you can read the quote for us if AJ Brown had a hundred yards in a touchdown and Nine catches. Do you think he's reading the book or do you think he's like having fun on the sideline?
Starting point is 01:28:00 Well, I don't know if you heard what I said He said transpiring the game good or bad, right? But he just might be good in there and really meant bad. No, see, so you're calling him a liar? No, I'm just saying he might have. He also may not have. That's also true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Everything's on the table right now when we're discussing this book. Correct. I have a question. I'm going to take the man for his word. Okay. What's up, pitstain guy over there? Do you think the game is nine, Max never having pit stains? Come on? Yeah, that was a bad one max I mean your ass crack is probably showing right now. Yeah
Starting point is 01:28:34 Do you think 90% mental 10% physical is a good breakdown? For him yeah for him yeah laughs because he said for yeah that's out for sure means is watching it yeah I got a chair I'm not sure that the whole physical put together in this thing is the battle you want to pick with anybody max because you yeah your butt gets a lot of screen time I can't even see it I'm I gotta back to the chair I would you like
Starting point is 01:29:04 in a game like this where he is limited how many catches do you have he had one catch three targets? Would you rather he maybe cranks it up to 15% physical? We won the game 10% we won the game win the game so looking ahead Besides your issues with the play calling. What do you need to fix going into next week? Jalen hurts Will be less rusty. So just like getting more reps and practice this week will be good Mm-hmm. I agree that one extra day of practice that our opponent will not have that'll be helpful What if they're like Jalen hurts like was so bad. They're just gonna put him back in the protocol
Starting point is 01:29:46 Just he wasn't that bad 100 he wasn't good 111 quarterback rating you would die for that. Okay, and I off game. Yeah But he wasn't like 32 touchdowns. Okay won the game when we needed when we needed to ice the game He led a great drive to that finish with the Dallas Goddard touchdown Okay. All right. So max who do you want? Vikings or the Rams? Good question. That is a good question. Call someone out. That is if I had to choose, I'm not, you know what I, you gotta be good team.
Starting point is 01:30:17 No, no, don't cop it out. No, but that's what you, that's what, if I were to answer that question, that's what you would say. Just tell us which team you want to lead with that Yeah, I would leave that you want you'll play whoever wins like but gun to my head Yeah gun to my head if you had to tell me that I had to pick a team I would I would pick the Rams really we handled the Rams in that first game They could their defense could not stop with a run sake one one for like oh, that's right I forgot about the Rams offenses look bad
Starting point is 01:30:46 And I don't know how they're gonna be tonight They would have to travel from LA to the to Philly and the coal well actually travel Arizona to LA to Philly true Yeah, I don't think the Rams are gonna win tomorrow, but okay. I think that given my Thought process I would say that I would like I don't know where I think See who's happy with a play call who knew that like a simple question of are you happy with the play calling would just lead Us to send about ever happened in the last 15 minutes now is condescending It was a question if my job as a member of the media to ask those tough questions, Max.
Starting point is 01:31:25 It's so clear you're upset about the play calling. Just say it. I'm happy with a win. And you can learn. You can go back and look at the tape and learn from things. Everything is a learning, a learning experience and we will learn from this and be better for next week. Okay. I appreciate that. Well, thank you for meeting the Packers. And Jalen Hurts will be less rusty. Yes. Thank you for beating the Packers.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Packers 0-2. Did Jalen Hurts call the plays? No. Those are two separate things. Oh, okay. Yeah. What would you grade the Packers season? I would say it would be...
Starting point is 01:31:59 No way. Way worse than that. People were picking them for the Super Bowl. They were. On Schrager. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I beat the Schrager Street. Yeah. They kind of got dealt a bad hand, though, with the the injuries. Yeah, but we lost one games. I guess. OK, so if you're looking at it like just straight up grade
Starting point is 01:32:17 as a whole, the outcome of the season. Yeah, probably. Yeah, definitely worse than it be. I'm saying it's being given what they were dealing with today. I'd say overall, it's probably a B because they, they are the youngest roster. C plus they're the youngest roster in the NFL. It's like, what would you grade it under like a regular, if you laid it all out and you didn't say this is the green Bay Packers, I think Packers fans are different because they like they're used to winning playoff games and you know, that kind of thing. So they so they graded differently
Starting point is 01:32:45 But if you laid all out all the facts took the the logo off the helmet you probably say be Say B minus C plus they're gonna fucking be good next year. I just know it. I just know it They're just gonna they always just draft someone who's just like how'd this guy get good? And it's just like oh and Jayden Reed is gonna be the best receiver somehow Christian Watson, well Christian Watson I think is ACL but they just I just know it and Josh Jacobs is good. Very good.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Really really good but Jordan Love's not good. I think he's good. Go to bed thinking that. No he's not. Max you back me up. He was so that that pick to Zach Bohn was horrific. Horrific. It was a hurt. I don't know egregious How do you just not see the guy right in the middle of your of your vision? Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:33 I don't know he just he just threw it right to him when he doesn't run rpos and play actions He's not like as a straight-up pocket passer. I just don't I haven't been overly impressed Also, shout out to Philly for having the sax guy playing the national anthem Oh god, Vanya sax Vanya sax who on your sex that guy that guy can get it. That was incredible Not is that sound section. No, I mean, that's fine This saxophone is the most sexual instrument by far and it is like gilly like come out with the team Yeah, like those videos are so funny and the bald eagle oh what a scene yeah max is replaying it that was a really bad interception you can't throw that one um all
Starting point is 01:34:10 right did you guys you guys didn't score off that though uh oh that wait no we did is that the end of the second quarter because halftime was 10 oh 10-0. Why didn't you score? Was it the play calling? No. It was just unrelated to the play calls. It was just a bad play making. What were the play calls after that? It was incomplete, incomplete. Penalty.
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Starting point is 01:37:07 Visit BetterHelp.com slash PMT today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash PMT. Okay. PFT. Yep. Commanders 23 bucks 20. What a fucking game. A crazy game. This is every commander's game is like this. What a fucking game. A crazy game.
Starting point is 01:37:25 This is every commander's game is like this. Every single one comes down to the end. I was gonna actually ask you this. We talk a lot about the chief's voodoo. Yeah. The commanders have the most voodoo and it's a good thing. They just have like, I don't wanna say team of destiny, but watching that game, especially they will break down the
Starting point is 01:37:47 whole game but like when the Bucks kicked a field goal to tie it 20 to 20 and there was four and a half minutes left and this is part voodoo and part the fact that Jaden Daniels is just fucking awesome I turned to Jersey Jerry who's sitting next to me I said Bucks aren't getting the ball back yeah and that's exactly what happened that That's what we do. We had like a 17 play drive in the first or second quarter. Yeah. We didn't punt again today.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah. Because when it comes to fourth down, we either get fourth downs or we go for it and we don't convert them. And then we find ourselves like one minute later back in that same exact fourth down situation. And there's something about coaches named Dan that are just like, fuck it, we're gonna go for like fuck it we're gonna go for if it's Dan Quinn if it's
Starting point is 01:38:28 Dan Campbell Dan Lanning did that this year too where you just get ultra aggressive but I didn't have a problem even when it didn't work out that Dan Quinn kept going for it because that's what we've done all year and we've said it a million times the Dan Campbell stuff consistency yeah if he had pussied out and kicked a field goal on the second one Yeah, you've been like dude, you can't just do it You can't go for it go for it go for it and then kick it Keep going for it and something good will happen. Yeah, you go for it
Starting point is 01:38:54 You don't get it you pin them deep and then if you get a turnover you're at least deep in their territory Yeah, but yeah It's like they pushed everything to the limit of how close they could make this game. And there's something about Jayden. He does not show emotion. Sometimes he smiles during play. I was just saying his only emotion is happiness. But usually he just doesn't have any emotion whatsoever. If you see the clip of him reacting to the game winning field goal at the end of this
Starting point is 01:39:18 game, he's on the sidelines and he doesn't even smile. He just sits there and it doinks in and then he gets up and then like five seconds after it goes and he starts tapping people up. But the dude, he's like, they say that Joe Burrow, his like high school basketball coach, told his parents like you're lucky that he loves sports because if he didn't you might have a Dexter on your hands. Yeah. he didn't you might have a dexter on your hands yeah like he might actually be a killer Jayden is kind of the same way during a game he just he never gets too excited never get the moments never too big for Jayden which is crazy to say as a rookie but he is he's going to be him and who he is is just fucking awesome yeah so watch this clip here it doing sin he's just like okay cool We won the game. Yeah, nice. We want which is so the chiefs thing which is
Starting point is 01:40:12 My favorite team plays today. I'm going to kill myself. Oh nice. We want I had memes whip up a commander's version The commander's version is like in the middle. It's just this game is really close Holy shit, Shane Daniels is good and then at the end nice We want he's gonna do something awesome and we're gonna win this game is really close. Holy shit. Jane Daniels is good. And then at the end, nice. We want to, he's going to do something awesome and we're going to win this game. Somehow this, this happens every week. Again, it goes back to the question of are the commanders a good team? I still don't know how good we are. I think Jane Daniels is a good team. I think he's a good team. Jane Daniels is the best team I've ever rooted for in my life. He's a really good team. I it was I mean the fact was just the elf in the room
Starting point is 01:40:46 the the doing can it just was so appropriate for like the the where the bear stand and where the commander stand is two franchises that like it had to be a doink in but who's going to kick in I Was just sitting there like it's never gonna believe that that you got the doink in but Jane Daniels just just sitting there like, I can't believe that you got the doink in. But Jayden Dane was just like watching it. I never, when they got the ball back with four and a half minutes, it's like, he's going to drive them down the field and they're going to win this game with a walk off field goal. I said it to Jerry. I said it in my head, the fourth in one play where he was dead to rights and he finds a way to get that first down.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Like he's just special. I don't know what else to say. Like he's special and I think his specialness rubs off on the entire team where it's like, maybe they're not the most talented group, but when you got a guy like that, your confidence gets to a different level. Yeah. And you know that like the inches that are all around us, like he gets those inches. Jaden Daniels leads the league in inches all around him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:46 That he acquires. Yeah. And there's, every time something like this happens, I still have a part of my brain that has to think if Dan Snyder was still the owner, there's no chance that ball bounces in. Right. Bounces in.
Starting point is 01:42:00 And something interesting about the commander's playoff history. So this is their first playoff win in 19 years since 2006 January 26 against the Bucks against the Bucks the previous playoff game before that I believe was 1999 and it was also against the Bucks and that was Dan Snyder's first playoff game as owner we're down 1413 kicking a field goal at the end of the fourth quarter. Botched the snap. Everything goes to shit. Game over. In this. Josh Harris's first game as owner,
Starting point is 01:42:37 the ball bounces off the upright and somehow goes in. Yeah, like just good vibe. There's been good vibes around this team all season long, where just the smallest shit tends to break our way when we need it the most and I don't know I don't know how else to explain it. I I'm so happy getting to watch Jayden Daniels and also Terry McLaurin Another great game. Yeah, and our defense we just stepped up and now we're like a medium defense Marshawn Latimore got you get medium plus
Starting point is 01:43:05 Martin, we do get Yeah, medium plus a lot of places don't say medium plus exist. Marshawn Latimore got cooked in the first half by Mike Evans, but still, I think he was held under 100 yards somehow. But this team is there's just something about him that I love watching. I don't know if they're good. But they're great. No, it's Jaden Daniels. Yeah. The new owner thing, obviously,
Starting point is 01:43:30 I want a new owner so bad, basically on all the teams, but Jaden Daniels is that guy. He's the guy that, I really do believe in it in sports. If you have a guy like Jaden Daniels, everyone plays a little bit better. Yeah. Everyone plays a little bit better than their talent level because of him. plays a little bit better. Yeah. Everyone plays a little bit better than their talent level
Starting point is 01:43:46 because of him. You think you can win. Right. And you're thinking the same thing I was thinking, where it's like, they're going to win this game. They're going to go down the field, and they're going to win this game. I felt good about the game from the very first drive
Starting point is 01:43:58 that we had. And even on defense, when we held him to a field goal right off the bat. But then we got the ball in our hands, and we were moving the ball and it was like, this is exactly how I saw it playing out, which is Todd Bowles is gonna try to blitz a lot and Jaden is a different quarterback
Starting point is 01:44:12 than who we saw in week one. He's more decisive, he's gonna be able to take off and run when he has to, but also more importantly, he's gonna hit guys in the middle of the field when he has to. And he played a great game. Our running game was virtually non-existent because stuff every day is Just a mountain of a human being he's one of my favorite players
Starting point is 01:44:30 He's great and every time we kept trying to run it up the middle and Brian Robinson is the last person that you should Be asking to run against defense like that because he hates bouncing to the outside Yeah, Brian Robinson if he gets the ball He wants to run at somebody's face and run him over for like two, three extra yards and like soften them up over the course of the game. You're not going to soften Vita ve up. No, he's untenderizable. Yeah. This is where this is the point of the program. I'm very happy for you. PFD. That was an awesome game. Uh, the doink and incredible Jane Daniels. Like he is that guy. This is the part of the program though, where max tells you, uh, stuff. Yeah. If Baker Mayfield doesn't fumble a snap, that game is over. I was going
Starting point is 01:45:08 to lead off. Well, there's one other. I was going to lead off by saying he didn't throw any interceptions. So I don't know what I'm supposed to talk about right off the jump. Well, the center also just come yuck my own ball way too. You got, you had three plays that just were destined. It's, I was really going off its team of destiny. I'd rather be lucky than good. Yeah. No, I'm I there's a voodoo or what big get set is exactly what I was right. It's a good voodoo. Everything just goes the commander's way. And trust me, I am the biggest commander's fan this weekend. Yeah. I I want the commanders to win. Yeah. I can't I can't have Max Max. You can't. Oh, an NFC championship
Starting point is 01:45:45 with the Eagles. Why are you rooting against my friend? Jared golf? Yeah. He sounds like I'm rooting for my friend. PFT. No, no, but I can't have max's stink on this team too bad. I ban you from cheering for the commanders. Would I rather go to Detroit or have the commanders come to Philly? I thought you play whoever you play. Would I rather go to Detroit or have the commanders come to Philly. I thought you play whoever you play Would I rather? You gotta be playoff teams do not care about our friend Jared I care about my friend PFT You don't care about me and that's fine and Dan Quinn. Yeah friend of the program Yeah, what about Dan Campbell friend of the program? I care about him Joe. I'm on Rosane Brown. Yeah friend of the program Friend of the program. I care about him too. Amanrao St. Brown. Yep. Friend of the program.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Dan Quinn. Detroit Don and super fan. So friends of the program. Max, we we did get some breaks today. They got some breaks too. It happens. But also if okay, if they fumble a snap and they don't get a third down conversion, then guess what? You still have to go win the game. You know, I like we're good enough to here's here's where we're at. We're not a great team. We're good enough. And Jayden is good enough to take advantage of every miss. If you give him a window, he will find a way to win a game at the end. Jane Danos is good as good as fuck. Yeah, really, really good. Good. The box, the buck, the commanders were better than the bucks today and the box. There's two things better than the Bucks today in the Bucks There's two things one Todd Bulls I don't know what happens in his brain
Starting point is 01:47:09 But he somehow fucked up the clock on the end of the first half and the end of the game Mm-hmm, like then the first half didn't end up mattering as they scored touchdown, but that guy's brain just freezes and then you have I Don't know the third best quarterback statistically this season. It's just talking statistics. So not doing a debate on like, you know, but like Lamar, Josh, Baker, those three,
Starting point is 01:47:37 Sam Donald maybe, so four, top four statistical season this year. Burrow. Burrow, fuck, five, all right. Fuck. Five. Baker had an incredible year is what I'm trying to say. He threw the ball 18 times. I don't understand what they were doing. Yeah. And it was partly because the commanders did a great job of keeping the ball out of the Bucks hands. The commanders had the ball for 35 minutes. But I don't understand how he's not throwing the ball more than that. Well Bucky was also running with the ball
Starting point is 01:48:03 pretty well. He was. but Baker's your guy. Like that's your guy. That's your dog. I know he had some runs too, so there's probably more pass plays called. But Todd Bowles, he's just, he freezes. I don't know what the fuck goes on with him. Did you hear his speech or his interview that he gave out of halftime? No.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Can we play that? Was it just as uninspiring as I imagined it to be? He got so confused, I forgot which was left and which was right. Yeah. Like, listen to his explanation here. You gotta get him in long third and longer yards. You gotta win first down and keep getting out of the pocket to his left, to our left, his left, his left, and our left his right.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I mean, You gotta cut that down. This guy's just panicked. What side was he telling his defense to watch out? Our left. his left, his left, our left, his right. I mean, I gotta cut that down. This guy's just panicked. What side was he telling his defense to watch out? Our left. Their left. No, but his left. Their left.
Starting point is 01:48:51 He said his left. Our left. He doesn't know left from right. He's just, I mean, he was so lost with the timeout situation. He had no idea what to do. What he did at the end of the first half was one of the more puzzling things I've ever seen. Yeah, it's letting the cloud how many seconds did he was like 17 seconds? He's just like fuck it
Starting point is 01:49:11 We'll call timeout. I mean again This was the commander's win. It was a special night for the commanders, but Todd Bulls like what are you doing, dude? He just can't be in those pressure moments. Yeah, and that's I mean the the Bucks What do we grade their season? I would say they did they did have both their cornerbacks get hurt Well, I think one was hurt going into the game then the other one got hurt. So But you guys also had some injuries on cornerback, right? So yeah. Oh, yeah, we're a little bit banged up
Starting point is 01:49:42 Marsha and Latimore's injured, obviously. I hope he's injured, because otherwise it's not a very good performance out of a healthy Marshawn Latimore, given what we're paying him. But I would give the Bucks a B. You won your division. Baker's awesome. Baker's awesome. That's really what it is. Like, Baker's awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:01 What? I think PFT is just the teacher that just gives everybody a B. B? No, I gave the Chargers an A- Well, we I gave them I gave the Broncos and a recent recency bias. Yeah Wait, so those are two a grades out of four that I've given I know I was just thinking of the last one of the Packers I mean the Packers didn't get it. I what are you? Why are you so angry with me today Max? Cuz he sees the commander's fan. Yeah, that's also not a unite this out of he's just he's just in it He's in playoff mode. Yes, he's in playoff mode. He's in survival mode
Starting point is 01:50:31 So yeah, I fucking love the commanders and I love Jaden Daniels and this season has been an incredible gift And I'm so excited about what's coming next next week We can talk about let's not talk about next week right now. How about that? You should not I don't want to think about the lion I'm not gonna kill Thursday not gonna think about the Lions like just enjoy this win There's no reason to think about the line. We're playing team X next week. Yeah, who knows? Maybe their offense is bad. Who knows? Here's nothing lose. Here's the thing PFT like
Starting point is 01:51:00 You don't think about lines. Can I talk a little bit about it real quick? Yeah, you don't think about I won't The Lions are a way better team than the commanders. Do you know the Lions don't think about lines. Can I talk a little bit about it real quick? Yeah, you don't think about I won't The Lions are a way better team than the commanders. Do you know the Lions don't have Jane Daniels and Something happens where I mean they did a montage in the game of like crazy moments Yeah, and there have been some fucking crazy ones the Bears game obviously The Cowboys game which wasn't even him He was on the sidelines in the second half cheering on Marcus Mariota Yeah, the Eagles game when he came back and he's that really really good defense that the Eagles have yeah and just shredded him
Starting point is 01:51:34 The sound game the Saints game and the Falcons game Yeah, like that it always comes down to the last minute with this guy if we can get to the last minute against the Lions I will be a very very happy man. She gets the last minute. Yeah shock the world Yeah, the world shocked the world max is rooting for you. Thank you max. That means a lot. Let's go commies Let's go commies left hand up max. Yep So Jane is I was I'm rooting for you because I would love to see Eagles commanders and a championship game That would be number doesn't you guys taught me when the Patriots played the Rams? I you know, it's not right to root against our friend
Starting point is 01:52:05 Jericho, so I'm gonna root for the Lions Based off what you guys said to me you have the commanders. I don't remember what you're talking about Hank is Hank is all over the map with you know what your problem is Hank you have like conflicting allegiances Due to your troll brain and your bet brain and sometimes Sometimes that's that, sometimes they fight. I'm not worried about that. They might not, but Jaden Daniels might. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:31 They might just give him the little party. Yeah. It's lions versus ravens. And they're like, before we get this to the winner, Jaden Daniels, please come on down. I would take it. He is the first rookie quarterback to win in the playoffs on the road
Starting point is 01:52:44 since 2012 2012 Russell Wilson Don't ask who he played or where he played and Before that was Mark Sanchez For that Joe Flacco and then before that all the way back to 1976 Pat Hayden. Hmm. So I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna stamp my grade on the commander season already a plus a plus plus a plus plus You want a playoff game? Yeah rookie quarterback. Don't you don't don't, don't put a grade on it yet. Just, yeah, it's, it's still going. Yeah, it's still going. It's yeah. But can it get higher? Let's go win. Let's go win this weekend. Let's do it. Max give him a pump ups. Let's go. Yeah. Did you see that
Starting point is 01:53:17 play at the end where can't see tried to tackle Jayden from behind and grabbed his towel and then just kept sprinting towards Jayden with Jayden's full towel in his hand. Yeah, that was, I mean that, that play was, he was, Kancy had him and then he just didn't. He was playing flag football with him. He was just running with his towel behind him. He should have dropped the towel where he tackled. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. And the doink in I can't believe it. By the way, saying Gonzalez does have OCD. So don't make fun of him. He does. But
Starting point is 01:53:50 that's his superpower. Yeah. He fixes hair a hundred times getting ready for the kid. And it's like the shortest hair ever. So when he kept fixing it, I was like, is there a bug on there? But he actually does have OCD. And his compulsion is that he has to split the uprights. Yeah. Or at least bounce off the end. He's got a doink him in I can't believe it doinked in I did you think for a second it was not good when it yes. Yes I did too. It was like oh shit. I needed overtime for basically. I mean we should talk about it Hank. That was The we all bet it. Yeah, we had the PMT me and PFT did the parlay that Jane Daniels he we needed 40 rushing yards from him on that last
Starting point is 01:54:26 scramble. He also had like 25 in the first quarter. Yeah. On that last scramble play, he got the 40 yards. That was it. Last leg. And then he took the centering snap, kneeled it down. So we went from cashing it to losing it.
Starting point is 01:54:40 All the WLs I took it. I'm sorry. Yeah. I feel it worse than you do It was it was it was not I was rooting I was rooting for overtime Yeah, I was too cuz I had the over for a lot I was rooting hard for over time and very clearly so that everyone can hear it When people get mad at big cat and Hank and they're like, why aren't you happier for PFT?
Starting point is 01:55:01 I don't need them to be happy for me. That's not your job to be happy. That's not your team that you're rooting for. Like I understand like, okay, it's cool if your friend did something, whatever. Yeah, I'm happy for you right now. But if it comes to like, if you have a bet that's on the line, you're gonna root for that bet.
Starting point is 01:55:16 And I would root for that bet in your position every single time. Also, it would be the weirdest thing ever if Hank and I celebrated with PFT like, like we were like, oh, oh we did it you did it Yeah, that would be bizarre. I always especially when you have an Your parlay in my nuke on the over which was brutal. Well, you know what we are genuinely Super super upset whenever Max loses. That's true. I am always upset for Max actually, you know what I
Starting point is 01:55:43 Max has almost gotten to the point where now I would be happy for Max. No, I was thinking about this. I said the word almost very clearly. Yes. I agree with that. Almost. I miss the almost. It's close. If we're getting dangerously close to me being happy for Max with a win. I was thinking about that the other day. Cause I was like, if he, if the Eagles go to super Bowl, but I actually put it Hank has money on the Eagles with superwriters as well the
Starting point is 01:56:10 Your all thanks just all of the bills Yeah, the only team Hank this is where the troll bring him Hank didn't have a huge on was the Chargers No, I have $100 on the commanders from like the beginning of season when I went on a heater two weeks ago I have five grand. It's the biggest bet I ever placed on the Eagles. Okay. And then I have like some other futures that are like bills to win the conference and Eagles to win the conference, but though like The Eagles future is the biggest bet I think I've ever made. Yeah, we all just declare-
Starting point is 01:56:38 And if they just make it to the fucking Super Bowl I'm cashing out I'll say that right now. Should we all declare- Because after I bet it I hated it. Are gambling allegiances Yeah, get them out in the open. I have anyone but the Chiefs. What if they play the Chiefs? Will you keep it? Yeah, I Know I hate you so much. I had I Had the Chargers obviously dead I have pod I have
Starting point is 01:57:04 No pause you flip-flopped. I know you did flip and I have a Ohio State to win the national title and Eagles to win the Super Bowl parlay, that's like 12 to 1 that would be a significant hit and I have not if anyone has an idea of who I should bet on to win NCAA basketball player of the year. Let me know If anyone has an idea of who I should bet on to win NCAA Basketball player of the year let me know Okay, I'd like to place a bet on someone Eric Dixon is really underrated from where from Villanova
Starting point is 01:57:35 Oh, no way about it. I would not know I have is he really good He's awesome leads the country in scoring scoring. Just, just be you con they just might be you con wait He's a country in scoring. Yeah, I'm not gonna bet on that guy, but tell me more about how good he is He's so good. He is so good, and it's just Villanova's coming on strong to at the right time We don't have to talk about what happened this weekend It's football season, but they're trending in the right direction so like really really What's Eric Dixon from Villanova and he's he could be the best he Is like the Heisman for college basketball? Yes. Yeah, how's that voted on?
Starting point is 01:58:14 It's the best player in the country and he is the best player I don't think I'm gonna bet on that but I would like an update Every show on on how he's doing if he's doing well Also, I have Celtics Barcelona and National so I'm trying to get that out there. I'm trying to get that on there. All right, fine. We'll empty the clip Okay, I've got the Buffalo Bills. No lines and Hideki Matsuyama to win the match I've got I got the Buffalo Bills Lamar Jackson and then Manchester United to be relegated But that money goes to chief which could be worth ten grand and then the Washington Capitals to win the Stanley Cup
Starting point is 01:58:50 I have just currently the Eagles and the Ohio State Buckeyes both to win parlayed. I have Utah to win the national championship this year What sport football? Okay I have Utah to win the national championship this year. What sport? Football. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:07 You don't know, they haven't crowned one yet. I've got Oregon. Still pending. You never know. Still pending. And then I have a UConn in basketball 19 to one. That's just a respect. Respect.
Starting point is 01:59:17 I won it the last two years. I had to do it again. Here's a fun stat real quick from this, from OptaStats. In NFL history, There have been three instances of a team having zero turnovers and zero punts in a game Behind a rookie starting quarterback. Whoa All three were by Jaden Daniels and the commanders. Wow to week three and tonight Damn, that's fucking insane. That isn't I love this guy. that isn't say I love it. I love him Max We're you're so good. He turned it over on downs twice. Oh, that doesn't count. It's not it's not a quarterback mention the Baker fumble
Starting point is 01:59:52 Well, I didn't say that has nothing to do with that stat no oh you're oh you're specifically talking about this stat correct Okay, well hey max about this if we kicked field goals every time in fourth down then that Baker fumble doesn't really mean anything Hey Max, how about this, if we kicked field goals every time in fourth down, then that Baker fumble doesn't really mean anything. But you didn't and then you failed. Yeah, but you're taking away turnovers for the Bucs, but not taking away turnovers for the commanders. They were just unforced errors. We won the game.
Starting point is 02:00:18 No, I, the commanders deserve to win that game. All I wanted to say was that the commanders have some weird voodoo going on. They do. That things break their way at the end of games. Which is good. That isn't an insult to the commanders. I would love a team for that to be my team. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 02:00:41 You're right that we do have that. And Adam Peters gets a lot of credit too for the just complete roster Turnaround that's happened. There's all new guys Dan Quinn's done a great job I'm just I'm the happiest I can remember being as a football fan maybe ever Maybe maybe ever if we're talking about arrows if we're doing the air. Yeah, this has got to be better than RG 3 now Yeah, I mean the the wild card game that year. Yeah was this disaster. He exploded. Yeah, this has got to be better than RG 3 now Yeah, I mean the the wild card game that year. Yeah was this disaster. Yeah, right
Starting point is 02:01:09 See that this was like the final. Yeah, Jay Daniels has to actually holy shit that fucking low low hit on Jayden Daniels That that looked bad. She and I agreed to turn injuries off at the start of this game and that one This is now two games Not two games in a row because the Falcons game and then this one wears knee bins and you're like fuck This is it and then he just stands up. Yeah, just like not injured. But yeah this is this is way better than 2005 because we had mark Brunel who was like 46 years old and That's the only other playoff win that I can remember. Yeah, except for the Super Bowl. I remember that um, 91 the
Starting point is 02:01:52 Yeah, I mean it was an incredible game Jay Daniels. He's special Do you guys want to do let's do two more ads them want to try to figure out who's gonna win? Vikings Rams and also we'll talk a little Texas Ohio Steaks that happened on Friday night. Yep. Before we get back to these games, they're brought to you by our great friends over at Kevin's Natural Foods. Kevin's Natural Foods.
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Starting point is 02:04:50 I don't know. Anyone got an idea? I do think it's like the fact they're playing in Arizona is weird. Go ahead. I think the Vikings should win, but I also think that Sean McVay and That's the end of that sentence and Sam Donald. I'm a little nervous. I just think Sean McVay I Would not bet against him in the playoffs. Yeah with all this the obviously super tragic stuff going on in LA Do you think it like is more team of destiny vibes or like distraction vibes?
Starting point is 02:05:24 That's gonna affect them negatively Well PFT said it last week when he was like why didn't the Rams try to win that game to get a better seed? And he was like what's up? What's up with that and Sean McVeigh's done that before I think that's what the year They won the Super Bowl. Yeah I feel like he knows He like he's got a good team. Yeah, I think he knows something he knows he like he's got a good team. Yeah, I think he knows something. He knows something because on paper, you should have tried to win that win horse win horse. Why did he do that? Why did he do? Why did he feel so confident rolling Jimmy Garoppolo out there? It's because
Starting point is 02:05:56 he he knew either one that resting his guys was more important than whoever they played. Yeah. Or because he sees some weird voodoo matchup. Hmm. Yeah, I have no idea. But this game, I feel like whatever side I'm gonna bet is wrong. But I also have to root against the Rams. But he also didn't know who he would be playing right in that opening game. It could have been the Lions. Right. Or maybe he just knew that the Lions were going to roll the Vikings. Right. Who knows? But I'm sure I'll have some degree of like super confidence in whatever I choose to gamble on tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Oh, for sure. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to be like, fuck yeah. I'm right. I, I just can't, I can't get that Sam Darnold is stupid. I can't get the week 18. And that was also just the Lions great defensive game plan. But what if the Rams have a great defense?
Starting point is 02:06:41 Well, they did with Sam Darnold. Yeah, they beat him already this year. It was grab his face mask when the refs. Yeah, that's true. No, but that was a game that The the I don't think Sam Darnold played very well against the Rams when they played earlier this season Is that not am I imagining that I just remember that was a game that Puka was coming back and it was like oh shit Is he gonna start? Oh, yeah, he is gonna start and it's gonna have 106 yards. Yeah, and he's gonna be awesome He's gonna catch every single ball. Yes, Sam. Donald. He was okay in that game. He wasn't bad So Matt Stafford is very good against the Blitz. He's one of the best quarterbacks against the blasts what I remembered Yeah, but also we can agree that Matt's that not all pressures are created equally
Starting point is 02:07:20 But he also just had a week off. He can't really move that well. Maybe he's healthy again. Yeah, it could be maybe he spent a week off at alo. He's feeling good. Maybe a little Daniel Jones. Two headed monster with Sam Darnold. Yeah, mix them in there. Yeah, I'll never see coming. Yeah, it's a great room. That's great. If we're going off rooms, I need I need at least 10 minutes on the broadcast talking about that room. That room is a one seed Yeah, for sure for sure The Ohio State Buckeyes beat the Texas Longhorns on Friday night
Starting point is 02:07:53 Was a great game so much for the people saying that the college football playoff Expanded playoffs suck. They basically they had us in the first half. Mm-hmm Well, the first round looked bad ratings were bad for who the fuck cares. I don't Say something Not to me. I mean I heard some people saying that they're dragging the season out too long I'm fine with dragging this the football season is longer I do think college football should end a little bit earlier just naturally. Like I think it's weird the national championship is gonna happen after the divisional round of the NFL.
Starting point is 02:08:29 But yeah, I mean, I've never watched a playoff game or any game and enjoyed the hell out of it. And then afterwards been like, damn, the ratings were bad. Maybe I didn't like it. Sure, ratings don't matter. I mean, they just don't matter to my enjoyment of the game. No. Like I enjoyed the hell out of that game.
Starting point is 02:08:49 I thought it was a great game. Ohio State, it was like Will Howard was awesome in that first drive and then he was not. And they were, like there was that moment where you're like shit is Ohio State gonna like fuck this up? Are they gonna Ryan Day it up That screen passed the end of the half. I don't I still don't know how that happened I don't know how you blitz in that situation for your Texas and then it all came down to the First and goal series that Sark play calling has been questioned over and over
Starting point is 02:09:17 Yeah, where they ran the toss play out to the left where they went backwards about four yards. Mm-hmm I don't know why you do that. Don't really get it. We should say though, Caleb downs, made a great play on it. Caleb downs is a heat seeking missile on that. Caleb downs has been doing that all season long. He takes the perfect angle. Every single time he's a great player. So yeah, a great player made a great play on a bad play call. Yeah. How about that? Yeah. Texas had a chance going at the end. They just made more plays. Texas,
Starting point is 02:09:48 the better team won. Jeremiah Smith was not really part of it. He was not shut him down, which is crazy to say like, just throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith every single time, because you probably could do that. But Texas, I don't know if Texas took them out of the game. No, Texas defense balled out. And Ohio State does have other good wide receivers. Yeah. And they made plays. Yeah, Texas defense was, was phenomenal in that game outside of the screen pass at the end of the first half, which was horrific. Um, I, I said it before the game, I'm, I'm over the Quinn yours experiment. No offense to him. He's like, it's a perspective thing because I, I do think Quinn yours had a great college college career He's taken Texas to the semi-final and back-to-back years, which if you said that to a Texas fan
Starting point is 02:10:30 Five years ago ten years ago. You know, fuck sign me up I also think Texas does this weird thing where like they're comparing everyone to college Vince Young and You don't you can't really get better than college Vince Young. So it's like if that's the standard You every you're gonna be disappointed forever in the quarterbacks you have But I just even Cole McCoy never reached college Vince Young, right? So he's a great quarterback. It's an impossible standard I just Quinn yours is a good quarterback. I just don't know if he's like that that extra step of getting you again it's we're talking about perspective, like it's talking about getting you to the national championship,
Starting point is 02:11:07 which he's a really good quarterback, I just don't know if he's, I would've, I wonder how good Arch Manning's gonna be. That's kinda what I'm getting at. If Arch Manning is good next year, will Sark look back and be like, yay, probably fuck that up. I think this was important for Sark
Starting point is 02:11:21 to show Quinn Newers that he had his back. Yeah, I understand that. Because everybody was saying saying put an arch and I was saying it too Like if you have if you're looking for a couple yards you have a quarterback that can move and also he's a Definitely a threat to pass but like much more capable of picking up a couple yards in a running game than Quinn would be I don't know why you wouldn't put him in but I think that Sark had some weird like blood oath with Quinn Newers It's like you're my guy. I'm not. We're bringing Arch in probably when they first signed Arch. Yeah, he was like, Quinn, I want to let you know, I want to give you my word that he's not coming here to take
Starting point is 02:11:53 your job. And we're not going to play into any of that. There's gonna be a lot of media talk. The fans are gonna say we want Arch. This is you. This is me talking to you. And I give you my word. You're my guy. Yeah, I think this was Sark like Fulfilling on that when he did have something that he could have done that probably would have given a Slightly better chance to win cooler than that is winning a semi-final game going to the national championship also correct Yeah, also, I'm very happy for Jack Sawyer because he's obviously been The butt of a lot of jokes going on for against Michigan, the whole flag thing. He has been phenomenal in these playoffs. He's stepped it up a level in that it was
Starting point is 02:12:31 like the slowest fumble return ever. But it was also like, it actually was kind of cool how slow it was. He was gassed after about 15 yards. Yeah, because you could you like Ohio State fans got to celebrate for about 17 minutes as he ran down the field for you. Was it did you like see it in the moment and think to yourself this is an all-time Ohio State highlight like yeah it's perfect for him yeah yeah he's from Columbus yeah and Jack's where he is and Jack Sawyer was not the reason why they lost to Michigan he actually made the play that should have been like the crowning moment yeah him to beat Michigan with that interception so Ohio
Starting point is 02:13:03 State looks awesome. That was a great, great game. And I do think that like, so the college football expanded playoff, the people who were upset about it and I get it, the first round did suck. There's a chance. I don't know what it would have totally worked out because they would have judged things differently in a 14 playoff, but there's a chance that Notre Dame and Ohio State wouldn't even been in the playoff in a 14 playoff there's a chance because it probably they could have gone Oregon in what Texas in Georgia in yeah and then maybe Penn State although it probably Ohio State probably would have
Starting point is 02:13:41 jumped I don't know how they would have done it. I think Ohio State would have jumped the loser of the SEC Championship. Or the Big 10. So it might have been both teams. If Texas had lost that game like they did, then I think Ohio State maybe would have jumped. More than anything, I know that the argument, yeah, what was the final rankings? So Notre Dame would have been three,
Starting point is 02:13:59 Texas would have been four, Penn State five, Ohio State six. So according to the last rankings, Ohio State wouldn't have been in these playoffs State five, Ohio State six. So according to the last rankings, Ohio State wouldn't have been in these playoffs. Wait, this was AP. I didn't. Okay. Pull up the. That also means that, yeah, two of the teams in the top four got beaten by those teams. Yeah. Like maybe they get in, maybe they wouldn't. I also think it's just so funny because I understand there's a, this is the college football playoff ranking yeah so the actual college football rankings and again I don't know how they would have done it with like I think they took a little bit off of the the championship games this
Starting point is 02:14:33 year because of a 12 team and you knew everyone's gonna get in but if you had done a 14 playoff and you use the rankings that they used it would have been Oregon Georgia Texas and Penn State so Notre they used, it would have been Oregon, Georgia, Texas, and Penn State. So Notre Dame and Ohio State would have been outside. That's your championship game. I don't know why. I understand people love the college football regular season and they like every game mattering and they like a Michigan ending Ohio State season. What other sport like Ohio State got hot at the right time that's what happens in sports I would never understand somebody who's a fan of a sport being upset that the
Starting point is 02:15:08 sport uses a tournament at the end of the season to pick who the winner is to play more games to find the best team yeah I'm okay with that on the record yeah so I yeah I mean it was I liked starting with the Arizona State Texas game I know the Rose Bowl was a blowout, but it was a fun game to watch because it was like such an incredible game that Ohio State played. I feel like we've had four really good playoff games. We have. Oh yeah, and Notre Dame Georgia was good.
Starting point is 02:15:36 Yeah, and in the championship, Ohio State, they seem like they're the better team, right? Would you agree? Yes. They seem to be the better team. They are the better team. They are the better team, Ohio State Should beat Notre Dame unless Ryan Day does the weird Ryan Day thing that he did against Michigan Mm-hmm, and if there's a coach who's capable of bringing that out of Ryan Day. Mm-hmm I think it might be Lou Holtz. Mm-hmm to get him back into that mindset that he had where it's like
Starting point is 02:16:01 We have to just outman him because he has something to prove, right? mindset that he had where it's like we have to just outman him because he has something to prove right he's got a fixation with Lou Holt's yeah that he needs to figure out how to set aside going into this game yeah and also Marcus from this great coach too I I think Notre Dame they have to play like not a perfect game but they can't make mistakes because Ohio State is just and I'm not saying this is like, don't play the game. Ohio State has more talent. Like they have the most talented roster in college football.
Starting point is 02:16:30 I don't think even Notre Dame fans would disagree with that. Notre Dame though, they're just a tough ass team. They, what's their offensive line say? Four quarters of fuck you football. Yeah, I love that. Like they have a mentality and they don't kill themselves that if they keep this game close and you know Ohio State, you know has a little pucker of their asshole They could absolutely win this game
Starting point is 02:16:51 And I mean Texas got a little bit of push at times on that defensive line Notre Dame's got a great offensive line Texas was I know it's the 2014 was the final score Texas was they score that touchdown We're going into overtime. Probably. Yeah, you know, I mean like that was a that was as close as a 28-14 game could be mm-hmm very excited though, we're gonna booger on Wednesday show to break down NFL playoffs and The national championship, so maybe he'll give us a pick Should we do who's back the week? Let's do it. Let's do who's back the week It is brought to you by our friends at uber eats
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Starting point is 02:18:02 My back of the week are the New England Patriots. Ah, you took mine. Yeah, so it's been a long, long few years. I've learned what it's like to be you know, loser franchise and not be excited on Sundays and kind of like expect losing and I learned a lot about the draft. You learned a lot about the year. I wasn't I wasn't used to that because we were winning and stuff. What's the most important thing you learned about the draft? That you know you can't take the three best players like players can draft and then you have to reassess. You have to wait. That was the big lesson I learned last year. I think the big
Starting point is 02:18:36 lesson you learned last year was that when you trade your pick you have to actually give it up. Yeah. Because that was the whole yeah when you're like oh we'll we'll get the number one pick but we're not gonna give up the three pick yeah and I know a lot of fans of the show they always get mad like oh you just win you win you win you win you win it's so annoying and it's like now you know I've I've been in the basement I've dealt with what what a lot of people that listen to show and then you guys have dealt with for a long time but they signed Mike Vrabel and they're back they're they're they're on they're on the path the path of glory is back
Starting point is 02:19:08 question yeah by the way congrats our good friend Mike Vrabel do you have anything to say to memes who has gone on a memes path rampage against Mike Vrabel no I mean I think that's that's the beauty of Football and sports is like memes, you know can do his little trolling online and say these things on x.com And the everything out but like we'll see you on the field next year and we'll see you on the field for the next 20 Years, okay, and then we'll let the talking we'll let the talking Play itself out there. What about this take and I'm gonna say this from an anonymous person online Mike variable is proof that one smart clock management moment in a nationally televised game buys you five to ten years of NFL media
Starting point is 02:19:52 Thinking you're a great coach Memes meme that those memes memes also in this people hurt people also in this in this post Memes refers. I think he's referring to me as being NFL media memes you're part of the NFL media that Highlights his stuff and gaslights it okay, so memes. You're not mad No, it's whatever man So we're in this together like we Suffered through this season together, and it's like if you if you you know made out of the trenches
Starting point is 02:20:26 I'd be happy for you. I would expect I would hope that you'd be happy for me. No Damn, I don't want you out of the trenches I want you in the trenches me and I want Mike variable to suck if Mike if you're listening this Mike variable I want you to suck memes is equally not mad about this as max. Yeah, that's Blake. Oh, yeah If you're listening this Rex Ryan, you're not gonna get the job You're not getting the job. Yeah, so memes you're you're you're not bothered. You just started memes I'm extremely bothered There was their prime Derek Henry is not walking saying my tables a Derek Henry merchant and a Ryan Tannehill merchant
Starting point is 02:21:07 He's not walking saying my tables a Derek Henry merchant. Yeah, and a Ryan Tannehill merchant. Oh He's a system coach But no, it's been great, you know, Will and Taylor bustle with the boys guys. They obviously played for him They they had a lot of glowing glowing things to say about him what you know people can expect players are gonna get you know called out Expected to you know play at a high standard and variable expects everyone to meet those standards. And he's gonna write this ship and get us back where we need to be. He's gonna expect you to meet a certain standard to that's fine. That's great. I mean, that's Missoula is the same way like that's that's championship mentality.
Starting point is 02:21:36 That's that's what he should do. Whatever he needs, whatever coach, whatever you need. I'm here for you. Okay. Congrats. I'm excited for you, Hank. Yeah. I'm excited for you, Hank. Yeah. Great hire. Who's your who's back? My who's back of the week is the Philadelphia 76ers. Oh.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Cause they were, they were threatening to leave town. Oh. They were going to abandon Philly after all they've done for Philly. And, uh, the city of Philadelphia just came to an agreement to keep him around for a while. So congrats, Max. They really suck. Oh no. Do you want him gone? the city of Philadelphia just came to an agreement to keep him around for a while. So congrats, Max. They really suck. Oh no.
Starting point is 02:22:08 Do you want them gone? No, no, they're staying in South Philly. They weren't going to Jersey. They were going to go to center city Philadelphia, but now it's good because we're keeping all the stadiums right next to each other. Yeah, you got, that's a cool, I love that about any city that does that, where the stadiums are right across the street from each other. Yeah, you got, that's a cool, I love that, about any city that does that,
Starting point is 02:22:25 where the stadiums are right across the street from each other. Yeah, the sports district. Yeah. Yeah, no, just makes for a great tailgate scene. There's the big Xfinity Live megabar in the middle of it. It's fun, but I hear the word sixers, and they're so bad. They may not even make the play-in game Bad, but they had ten wins by Christmas. Yeah, no that did not spark anything and Joel and B. Just never plays They lost to the Magic today that whole video on Christmas. That was fun. I always have that you will always
Starting point is 02:23:04 Have that that was huge. Yeah, I mean they lost three out of their past four I Mean the magic are winning team with the Pelicans stink the Suns, but aren't you happy like that's a major win They're not losers. They're not leaving town That's good. I want At this point I want them to get a top six pick so we get our so we have our pick next year Yeah, mm-hmm Cooper flag. I'm either whose back of the week is LeBron. Oh, he's back in the news Have you heard about LeBron? I've seen it I'd still understand it. All right So LeBron was dancing to a Kendrick Lamar song like a month ago and then Drake put out a song called fighting Irish and
Starting point is 02:23:40 Drake has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm This is normal stuff has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm. This is normal stuff. Has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm from when LeBron was a high schooler. Oh. When he was playing on a team that's called The Irish. OK. And in that, he seems to throw some shots at LeBron being like, I know things about you.
Starting point is 02:23:57 You shouldn't have been dancing to that song that called me a pedophile. OK. Now DJ Academics went live and said that he is familiar with the accusations and that Drake does have some info about LeBron that he could put out. And now LeBron is probably very, very afraid to get credit to LeBron. He's done a great being like the most famous person in the world for the last 20 years. He's done a great job of not having any major huge scandals about him that have gotten brought to light until recently, until very recently.
Starting point is 02:24:29 So I don't know what's going to happen. If Drake, do you think Drake has like, is he just lashing out because he got beat so bad? Has he, has he handled getting defeated on a public stage worse than anyone else after like threatening to sue his own record. Yeah, I Will say if if they were like best friends, which if he's got a tattoo of them That would suck a little bit Yeah, um, I don't know if they're best friends. I would agree that
Starting point is 02:25:03 LeBron if he was friends with Drake should not have done that. Yeah Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know their relationship Hank. What are your thoughts? I Think both I mean, I think it's like star athletes it's like I think anyone that holds them to a higher standard or is crazy because There's been a million examples of like athletes being somewhat scumbags and not the most loyal guy So it's not like shocking. I'll never be shocked when I when you hear stuff like that. It's like yeah, no shit That's you know every a lot of athletes are like that There it's like Drake did I know it? It's ugly. It's like LeBron was dancing and now Drake's outing him
Starting point is 02:25:36 And it's like you know everyone everyone everyone's get hurt people hurt people hurt people hurt people and you're Drake guy I'm not a Drake guy or LeBron guy, so I don't really give fuck they can take they can both take each other down. Yeah, all I care This is one of those things that I was aware that was happening, but I didn't really There's football on so I didn't really dig deep into it, but I'm sure I'm sure there's more that I'm gonna learn I To me it seems like Drake is just trying to get a run also took that leave of absence like a month To go that was my like that kind of makes that make a little that lines up Yeah, he was up in Canada banging horse
Starting point is 02:26:13 Academics, I mean actually our kid banks just said everything. Oh, yeah, so it's all been said yeah But it's obviously not from you know the official source, but yeah, I also think that Drake is just desperate to get a win anywhere Yeah, anywhere. He can find what I think it's a win though. It's just like yeah, like I'm that Drake is just desperate to get a win anywhere. Yeah anywhere. He can find one I think it's a win though. It's just like yeah, like I'm I'm I'm the scumbag. I'm friends with a scumbag. Mm-hmm Is that a win? Yeah, he's just he's pressing the button blowing everybody up. Yeah, everyone's coming down with me Yeah, the Dan cider good guy. Yeah. All right, my who's back the week is overreacting to one thing and then and then trying to make changes because there's a Report that the NFL might change the NFL the playoff format
Starting point is 02:26:51 where Division winners get an automatic entry into the playoffs, but not necessarily homefield In the first round, I think divisions should mean something I agree. I think this would suck. There's divisions for a reason It's also like yeah this year was weird and it's crazy that the Vikings and the Lions Were as good as they were That week's 18 game was awesome It wouldn't have I I don't I mean I guess it would have meant something in terms of a bye
Starting point is 02:27:21 But they both would have gotten a home playoff game. I something in terms of a buy but they both would have gotten a home playoff game. I... Divisions NFL is what makes the NFL great. Yeah. Like your division rivals and winning your division should mean a lot. It also leads to regional styles of football. Correct. Amongst the divisions, which is cool. Yeah. Like having identity for your division. Like the NBA has divisions, they don't even fucking care. No. At all. It doesn't matter whatsoever. So it's like I don't know. That's the unique like don't overreact to one year And guess what? Like it sucks because the Vikings had a really good year win your division They were probably looking at the lions at the criticisms of the college football playoff. They're like yeah, we need to do that, too
Starting point is 02:27:57 Yeah, no, you don't. Yeah. No, you don't. I mean, yes. I was you're gonna have a good wild-card team and you're gonna have a Below average division winner. Yeah, but that's okay if they're demanding to do this I could meet them a like a quarter way there and Say you have to win nine games to get a home playoff game, but I'm not gonna fly But I like that above 500 but then also people then bring up the Beastquake East quake Yeah, it's great was a seven and nine Seahawks team That was pretty fucking awesome. Like I'm okay with it,
Starting point is 02:28:26 because if you go on the road and you lose to a seven and nine team in the playoffs, you should have beaten that team. Right, and also win your division. Yeah. Like that's the best part of NFL football, is like you play your division six times, you hate those teams, they're your rivals,
Starting point is 02:28:42 those games should mean more than all the other games. Yep. So yeah, don't do that NFL. I don't think they will. I don't think they will either. Those teams their rivals those games should mean more than all the other games yep So yeah, don't do that NFL. I don't think they will I don't think they will Roger Goodell is kind of the anti Adam Silver, I don't feel like he listens to us. No. I think I think we're good I mean unless something really weird happened if there was an instance where a really shitty division winner What's the worst possible record you could have I think someone's I was reading a thread on it last night I think someone technically could win a division 4 and 13. Yeah, look at the AFC South. It's probably I mean they just want to play off No, I'm saying like in the past your Texan. There's been some bad AFC South themes in the playoffs Yeah, I think 4 and 13. Wait, you're Mike Frable
Starting point is 02:29:21 Blake Bortles, which team are you talking about? Oh no. I'll look it up. I mean I'm not... Oh no. Oh no. It's not the Titans. It might be Bortles. No. I mean 7 and 9 is the... Worst NFO. The Panthers, I think, Ron Rivera, they won 7 and 9. The Panthers won a division once. Oh, Ron Rivera did it twice. He did it in DC too. Yeah. Heinecke. Also shout out NFC Beast. Only division that has two teams still available. There we go. That's just not true. What? That's just not true.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Two teams that have already advanced. Yep, good point Max. Switch it up on him. Yep. It is kind of cool in the AFC that every division's got a, it's just the division champs left. I also like having Max as my buddy and my friend right now, so I appreciate it. I can tell you really mean all this stuff from your heart. You definitely mean it. I'm thinking. What, if the Vikings are in the NFC North or not?
Starting point is 02:30:20 Yeah, if the Rams win tomorrow, then that's true. Yeah, that would be true. So yes, as of right now, I was correct. Yeah. 2017 Titans that led to Mike Malarkey's firing. What did they win the division at? Nine-seven. Oh, so that's not even the seven-nines.
Starting point is 02:30:37 Yeah, needed overtime to be the 0-16. It would be, that's not even the seven-nines we've been saying. Yeah, it'd be the... 2016 Houston Texans. So yeah, I wasn't just making shit up What was their record? They were Nine and seven so it's not about 500 still so far
Starting point is 02:30:55 We have to run Rivera teams and then and the Pete Carroll team Yeah, and the number one on this list is the 2020 Washington commander. So Washington whatever that was a big time NFC beast moved by Doug Peters in that game get us into the playoffs put Nate Sudfeld. Yeah All right. Good show boys great show. It's great talking some playoff football. Congrats PFT. Thank you. Congrats Max Let's finish with numbers. We got Jack pocket. Did you you know, you can get scratch off tickets with Jackpocket lottery app. That's right, you can order scratch off tickets in states like Texas, Ohio, Massachusetts, Arizona, and other select states. Don't forget, Jackpocket also lets you order Powerball and Mega Millions tickets right
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